Rusty nailed it when he said he was bored.

Hit that on the head.

Rust never sleeps.

Hammer time!

What did the hammer know, and when did he know it?

"Old Marley was as dead as a door-nail." dickens

Whose coffin is it, Charles?

where's the hammer?

Let's hope this is Charles' way of saying that it's time enough to put the nail into islamist extremism.

Elimate it from our populations.
From our Jails.
From our streets.
From our Schools.
From the Mosque.
From the Citizenry at large.
From the Gays.
From the Abolitionists.
From the Indians, the Hindu's.
From the Iranians and the Urdu.
From Russia, China, Indonesia.
From.. too many places to list. Shameful islam. Shame.

What atrocity will not be to big or too large? Do we not recall the seizure and killings of several school children just two years ago?

If the Citizenry at Large will bond together and voice against islamist extremism, then perhaps the Citizenry at Large will enjoy safety.

There is and never will be any safety, laughter, forgiveness, peace, co-existence, prosperity, or equality in this shithole that is currently called islam.

re: #12 Allah al Fubar

Let's hope this is Charles' way of saying that it's time enough to put the nail into islamist extremism.

I think it's Charles' way of giving us a starting point for any discussion we choose.

re: #13 gmsc

Um. Yes. I know this.

“You must either conquer and rule or serve and lose, suffer or triumph, be the anvil or the hammer”

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

I sure hope my income is about to spike!

re: #15 hermit

“You must either conquer and rule or serve and lose, suffer or triumph, be the anvil or the hammer”

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

That is so true on so many levels.

do you take these pics?

"A rusty nail placed near a faithful compass, will sway it from the truth, and wreck the argosy."
-Sir Walter Scott

Nice photo! Macro zoom?

re: #13 gmsc

I think it's Charles' way of giving us a starting point for any discussion we choose.

sometimes a nail is just a nail
/ channeling Siggy Fraud

"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
Bernard Baruch

re: #9 2by2

where's the hammer?

they have a few here...

thread is crawling at a nails pace...

Every night on Nancy Grace she features a soldier who died in the war. Very sad. Maybe it's time we did this for the victims in this war. Let's take a minute to contemplate the torture and murder of Rivka Holzberg. Let's see her sweet face, beaming with dedication and love. Let's see her son, Moishe. Maybe if we make this personal, people will start taking it seriously. Because the west so far is unmoved by the carnage .

re: #24 Outrider

thread is crawling at a nails pace...

re: #16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I sure hope my income is about to spike!

I've been stocking up on broccoli, green beans, navy beans, black beans, pinto beans, corn, kale, spinach, squash, potatoes, tomatoes, lettuce, onions and squash.

I just can't do tofu a/k/a Obama. And Michelle smells like bad meat.. at least that's what I heard. From Alan Colmes (off camera) of course.

/Joshin ya

"Each thought is a nail that is driven In structures that cannot decay; And the mansion at last will be given To us as we build it each day."

~ George Eliot

re: #24 Outrider

thread is crawling at a nails pace...

hammering your point home..

re: #23 2by2

Let's go there and get...well...you know... plastered!

That siding needs a coat of paint.

I read that if you insert a clean nail into an orange and leave it there for awhile, it will make the orange iron rich. Or is it an apple?

re: #13 gmsc

I think it's Charles' way of giving us a starting point for any discussion we choose.

More likely it's just a picture of a nail that Charles took with his camera. Like the picture of the faucet the other day. Charles is just taking pictures and posting them.

re: #24 Outrider

thread is crawling at a nails pace...

Let's get it up to the speed of at least a Mercedes S Class!

/Look at that S car go!

re: #30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Let's go there and get...well...you know... plastered!

uhm, hammered ?
lol

re: #34 gmsc

Let's get it up to the speed of at least a Mercedes S Class!

/Look at that S car go!

ouch. ;-)>

re: #32 Crusty

I read that if you insert a clean nail into an orange and leave it there for awhile, it will make the orange iron rich. Or is it an apple?

...and if you put them in the soil around the roots of your hydrangeas, they will bloom a brilliant blue.

re: #22 hermit

"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
Bernard Baruch

You beat me to it, damn.

MI

The Space Shuttle's landing in about 45 minutes; here's live video if you would like to watch.

having my first hot cocoa of the year. dont want to put it down to capitalize and add shift required punctuation. is that okay question mark

too much Fe2O3

re: #34 gmsc

Let's get it up to the speed of at least a Mercedes S Class!

/Look at that S car go!

At a international auto show a Janapese auto maker was bragging to his German counterpoint, In Japan we make a car in less than one day... The German said to him... Dat soon?

give a child a hammer and the whole world becomes a nail - tommy smothers the ballad of john henry.

re: #33 doriangrey

More likely it's just a picture of a nail that Charles took with his camera. Like the picture of the faucet the other day. Charles is just taking pictures and posting them.

Sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar...

Freud (I think)

MI

That's what's called a Common Nail, not a Box Nail, and it looks to be about a 10d ("10 penny" size).

/showing off ... seeing if it will draw a response

re: #40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just wanted to let you know, FBV, that when I see you posting I think of thongs and woolly mammoths.

You should know these things. :-)

re: #40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

having my first hot cocoa of the year. dont want to put it down to capitalize and add shift required punctuation. is that okay question mark

its teh innernets grammers opshunal

re: #45 Militant-Infidel

Sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar...

Freud (I think)

MI

Exactly...

If I had a hammer.

re: #40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

having my first hot cocoa of the year. dont want to put it down to capitalize and add shift required punctuation. is that okay question mark

by all means, veg, your nic alone makes my day brighter...as does quilly mammoth and oh, on and on actually... i'm an lgf addict

re: #51 MandyManners

If I had a hammer.

...I would nail it

re: #50 doriangrey
Tell that to M Lewinsky!
*wondering if she'll have an active role in the new administration along with all the other Clintonistas*

re: #47 pink freud

when i see you i think of a flying pink pig holding a writing tablet

The Tale of John Henry:
Part 1
Part 2

Bonus: Steel Drivin' Man

re: #45 Militant-Infidel

Sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar...

Freud (I think)

MI

Might have been Sigmund, but certainly wasn't either Slick Willy OR Groucho.

My son spent the entire 3rd year of his life hammering nails - the big ones. We had a lot of tree stumps that were perfect for nailing. Gave him a box of nails and a hammer, and he was happy all day.

Odd kid. Still is. I loved that kid. Still do.

re: #45 Militant-Infidel

Sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar...

Freud (I think)

MI

Sometimes a cigar is a ... o never mind
Bill Clinton

Meanwhile back at the saloon,

On September 27th, a Chinese Shenzhou space capsule came within 45 kilometers of the International Space Station, and two of the three crewmen made the first Chinese space walk (going outside the spacecraft in their space suits.) Later, a small, 88 pound microsatellite (the BX-1) was released from the Shenzhou. This was supposed to be a science experiment, but the fact that the Shenzhou came so close to the International Space Station, and then released a smaller, maneuverable (via small gas jets) BX-1, indicated another satellite destruction drill. The BX-1 could easily have been directed at the nearby space station, and destroyed it.

sheesh, can't we get President wannabe to speak to them?

re: #55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

when i see you i think of a flying pink pig holding a writing tablet

That was rude.

Nailed it.

re: #54 RubyTuesday

Tell that to M Lewinsky!
*wondering if she'll have an active role in the new administration along with all the other Clintonistas*

ROTFLMAO... If Monica gets anywhere near Barry, it'll be as fertilizer for the White House Rose garden... /channeling Michele...

re: #56 gmsc

John Henry monument in WV is kinda cool. Really neat statue. My favorite tall tale.

Many of you probably heard that last October was the warmest October on record. It turns out that NASA's scientists can't tell October from September:

"So what explained the anomaly? GISS's computerised temperature maps seemed to show readings across a large part of Russia had been up to 10 degrees higher than normal. But when expert readers of the two leading warming-sceptic blogs, Watts Up With That and Climate Audit, began detailed analysis of the GISS data they made an astonishing discovery. The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running."

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

re: #54 RubyTuesday

Tell that to M Lewinsky!
*wondering if she'll have an active role in the new administration along with all the other Clintonistas*

NOW, we are talking abou real cigars...

MI

re: #46 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You nailed it.

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

So, tributes to the fallen, military and civilian, by all means. But they must be put in a wider context, so that such tributes cannot be used to serve as sheep's clothing for fifth-column wolves.

As jaded as I am about the media, I do think their intent is to create a subtle undercurrent that saps at the national will. And unfortunately, they are succeeding, IMO.

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

I am unfamiliar with Nancy Grace, so I apologize in advance if I am talking out of turn. I believe that it is important to mention war dead--soldiers, certainly, and civilian victims such as you suggest.

However, I have heard NPR do features on fallen soldiers--and, moving as the tributes are (how could they not be?), they are always subtly slanted to emphasize, not the nobility of the fallen soldier, but the pain his sacrifice inflicts on those he leaves behind. And there is never any coverage which suggests that the soldier is serving in the interest of a good or noble or worthy national objective. Thus presented, the tributes to the fallen--objectively appearing to honor them--serve to negate their work, their lives, and their deaths, and the cause for which they gave all. They are designed to undercut and ultimately denigrate what they pretend to honor.

So, tributes to the fallen, military and civilian, by all means. But they must be put in a wider context, so that such tributes cannot be used to serve as sheep's clothing for fifth-column wolves.

The best tributes to our soldiers are usually found in their local papers, you can find these by Googling "Killed" then clicking "news" . They are happily not frequent nowadays, but I read most of them the past two years.

re: #68 LGoPs

As jaded as I am about the media, I do think their intent is to create a subtle undercurrent that saps at the national will. And unfortunately, they are succeeding, IMO.

I think the talking heads are here on Earth to discourage, dishearten, dismay and confound the general populous. In various Hemispheres.

/and we know what our opinion is worth.

re: #55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

when i see you i think of a flying pink pig holding a writing tablet

I wonder what Freud would think about that?

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

I am unfamiliar with Nancy Grace, so I apologize in advance if I am talking out of turn. I believe that it is important to mention war dead--soldiers, certainly, and civilian victims such as you suggest.

However, I have heard NPR do features on fallen soldiers--and, moving as the tributes are (how could they not be?), they are always subtly slanted to emphasize, not the nobility of the fallen soldier, but the pain his sacrifice inflicts on those he leaves behind. And there is never any coverage which suggests that the soldier is serving in the interest of a good or noble or worthy national objective. Thus presented, the tributes to the fallen--objectively appearing to honor them--serve to negate their work, their lives, and their deaths, and the cause for which they gave all. They are designed to undercut and ultimately denigrate what they pretend to honor.

So, tributes to the fallen, military and civilian, by all means. But they must be put in a wider context, so that such tributes cannot be used to serve as sheep's clothing for fifth-column wolves.

The lack of memorializing the fallen has probably also to do with the wrong perception that all of these incidents/wars are unrelated. There's simply no concept in the West yet that we are under siege by the IslamNazis.
I agree that it would be an excellent enterprise to work on an extended maybe virtual Memorial that starts listing and describing all the victims of Islamic terror and all the fallen soldiers in the subsequent wars against them, starting with the murder of Bobby Kennedy.

re: #71 pink freud

He'd think that I had seen footage of Pink Floyd concerts.

re: #64 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

John Henry monument in WV is kinda cool. Really neat statue. My favorite tall tale.

You mean this monument? That is impressive!

I'm a Paul Bunyan fan myself. I like how ridiculous the tales get, as in this example:

The year of the two winters the snow was so deep Paul had to dig down to the trees to continue logging operations.

It got so cold that the boiling coffee froze so fast it was still hot when frozen.

When the men spoke, their words froze in mid-air and when it thawed in the spring there was a terrible chatter for weeks.

Lockjaw ...

re: #70 Allah al Fubar

I think the talking heads are here on Earth to discourage, dishearten, dismay and confound the general populous. In various Hemispheres.

/and we know what our opinion is worth.

They all remind me of Grima Wormtongue...bastards

re: #61 Allah al Fubar

That was rude.

Nah. Me and FBV be buds.

/he *did* invite me under his table once upon a time ...

re: #74 gmsc

Hah! Brought to you by Mohammed TV.

re: #78 Allah al Fubar

Hah! Brought to you by Mohammed TV.

?!?

re: #65 LesLein

"Watts up with that" has a good series on the location of the weather stations that are used to collect the data used in the GISS temperature surveys. A remarkably large number of them are near barbecues. Not to mention in the shade or next to houses or next to AC exhaust ducks, next to parking lots etc.

Nail Pakistan, Yahoo search #1 Nail Pakistan

re: #67 yah

You nailed it.

Thank you.

I have an Akro-Mils cabinet full of nails which I used for reference, and I used to own a house with siding a lot like that.

(A LOT like that -- needed painting just as bad -- same color too ... WAIT ... DAMMIT, that's the back wall of my old house!)

re: #77 pink freud

Nah. Me and FBV be buds.

/he *did* invite me under his table once upon a time ...

I apologize for any intrusion.

Paul Bunyan:
Part 1
Part 2

I still think that the practice of Islam should be banned. At least in the USA.

re: #51 MandyManners

Mandy, This is an old song that the Peace Corp used to sing in the 60's!
It is a happy little tune.
: )

re: #86 notutopia

Mandy, This is an old song that the Peace Corp used to sing in the 60's!
It is a happy little tune.
: )

Pete Seeger.

re: #87 buzzsawmonkey

My great grandmother used to name her bunions. It was entertaining. We were poor back then. But it was still .. Uhhh. Interesting.

re: #85 Allah al Fubar

I still think that the practice of Islam should be banned. At least in the USA.

Unconstitutional, but you're entitled to your opinion.

re: #75 JacksonTn

You're an old schooler! If I had a nickle for every pair of britches I ruined on those damned rusty nails, I could pay for 100 tetanus shots.
Heh
: )

re: #68 LGoPs

As jaded as I am about the media, I do think their intent is to create a subtle undercurrent that saps at the national will. And unfortunately, they are succeeding, IMO.

The effect is certainly negative.. I do attribute this phenomenon in part to the debasing, trivializing impact of our popular entertainments. Some have called it the Oprahfication of America, a sort of maudlin unreality to every turn of events. Sloppy agape, and symbolic gestures playing to the most easily aroused emotions of the public.

However, if we are in fact taking part in a real war, then there is something more shameful at work.

I try to wrap my brain around the media worldview. When I succeed, I experience the kind of mental gymnastics required to exempt this war from being counted as a just war. It simply MUST be an unjust war, to prevent popularity and unity around the President from hampering the future success of the Democratic Party. Bald, simple, partisan motives which surfaced as soon as it was calm enough around the country to float out some trial jabs at stupid old W.

A Republican was trying to lead. Republican bad. Democrat good. War must be bad and illegal and unjust.

Now a Democrat, not the evil instigator, the noble inheritor of a W debacle must lead. In fact, the media helped elect the most specialest, the darlingest, deariest, jim-dandyest Democrat in all of recorded history.

Watch. Watch the resurgence of Democrat patriotism, chest thumping and finger pointing at the bad Republicans who questioned them, questioned them, the noblest and most intelligent, moral generation in history! Liberals and Progressives filled with the milk of human kindness!

Watch them soften the bad news and trumpet the progress, watch them justify all the mistakes of The One and help The One launch whatever response his "team" persuades him will be most attractive and expedient.

/rant off

re: #85 Allah al Fubar

I still think that the practice of Islam should be banned. At least in the USA.

But, but, after all the events of this last week, month, year, decade, haven't you figured it out, they don't 'practice.' They do it for real. The bastards.

re: #90 Thanos

Unconstitutional, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Tell me why the following, practice and enforcement of an abolitionist movement against the United States if America is "Unconstitutional".

Thank you.

re: #87 buzzsawmonkey

Paul Bunyan may have been a lumberjack, but Paul Bunion had the biggest, sorest feet in the world.

To turn it into a tall tale, you need more than that. Make it bigger and more impressive! Like:

"Paul Bunion's feet were once so sore, you could not only see smoke coming off of them, but fire, as well! In the process of running to Lake Michigan to put the fire out, his feet accidentally started the Great Chicago Fire!"

Much better.
;)

re: #90 Thanos

Unconstitutional, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Not necessarily, simply reclassify Islam as a violent political ideology and the US constitution would permit it to be banned. Since Islam does in fact consider itself both a religion and a political ideology it is in fact very possible to ban Islam from America.

re: #94 Allah al Fubar

If you can ban their religion others can ban yours. It's not constitutional.

re: #91 notutopia

You're an old schooler! If I had a nickle for every pair of britches I ruined on those damned rusty nails, I could pay for 100 tetanus shots.
Heh
: )

Well I ruined 2 pair last week so I guess that is about $70.00 . I run a large construction site.

Charles was fauceted to take that shot. He was board, and there was no way to Tell if he'd nail it. Wood that it were otherwise.

[nice picture. Same place that had the faucet, I'm guessing.]

re: #41 Hengineer

too much Fe2O3

Just add some Al and a bit of heat and you have a nice conspiracy on why the WTC fell.

re: #99 buzzsawmonkey

Later, he shaved off the bunions and threw them into the Great Lakes, which was the beginning of the Doctor Shoals.

Now you've got it!

"can you hammer a six inch nail with your penis?"

re: #96 doriangrey

If you want to define it down to particular sects advocaing and practicing violence, then you might get somewhere, but it'd be a hard row to hoe, they can't ban Gary Bauer and the others who would abrogate certain sections of the constitution for instance.

re: #97 Thanos

If you can ban their religion others can ban yours. It's not constitutional.

iSlam is not a religion. It is an ideology, a movement and a practice.

A popular vote could easily declare this. If we had bawls.

re: #85 Allah al Fubar

I still think that the practice of Islam should be banned. At least in the USA.

To see just how deep Islam is rooted in America, especially in our higher education systems, take a look at this report from the Dept, of Education. Notice especially the millions in donations from the United Arab Emirates, and to whom they go.

re: #103 pingjockey

"can you hammer a six inch nail with your penis?"

Not Safe For Work: "You used to watch me shave, now all you do is stare at the floor."

Feh.

My Giants didn't look sharp at all today. The idjit Plax is disrupting their groove.

Get rid of him, make the announcement by Tuesday, and let the team move on.

re: #106 Allah al Fubar

iSlam is not a religion. It is an ideology, a movement and a practice.

A popular vote could easily declare this. If we had bawls.

Hey, nobody's stopping you from taking it to court since you feel strongly about it go ahead, I'll be highly entertained by the case.

re: #107 pink freud

To see just how deep Islam is rooted in America, especially in our higher education systems, take a look at this report from the Dept, of Education. Notice especially the millions in donations from the United Arab Emirates, and to whom they go.

Let's not test the Imam. We get testy. WE have diapers.

/waiting to hear from the scholar, Thanos on the distinction of the induction of ideology vs. a secular yet cautious society.

re: #92 Joan

Watch. Watch the resurgence of Democrat patriotism, chest thumping and finger pointing at the bad Republicans who questioned them, questioned them, the noblest and most intelligent, moral generation in history! Liberals and Progressives filled with the milk of human kindness!

Watch them soften the bad news and trumpet the progress, watch them justify all the mistakes of The One and help The One launch whatever response his "team" persuades him will be most attractive and expedient.

/rant off

I agree. It all boils down to Democrats putting their party first, regardless of the consequences for the country. Then they dare to be offended when their patriotism is questioned...bastards.

re: #87 buzzsawmonkey

Paul Bunyan may have been a lumberjack, but Paul Bunion had the biggest, sorest feet in the world.

"He's a lumberjack and he's OK ..."

re: #111 Allah al Fubar

Let's not test the Imam. We get testy. WE have diapers.

/waiting to hear from the scholar, Thanos on the distinction of the induction of ideology vs. a secular yet cautious society.

You heard me -- take your case to court, don't argue it with me, do you have the "bawls" AF?

re: #109 stevieray

Feh.

My Giants didn't look sharp at all today. The idjit Plax is disrupting their groove.

Get rid of him, make the announcement by Tuesday, and let the team move on.

Uh.. One of your giants shot his sef (sic) in de (sic) leh (sic)
Good luck wit (sic) dat (sic).

/Kidding! Best of luck~!

re: #109 stevieray

Cowboys fan here. Don't lose hope. Nasty day for football. Plax needs to go, (nothing good ever happens to professional athletes at clubs), but I don't see anyone stopping the Giants before the Superbowl.

That reminds me. Gotta go check my enail.

re: #113 taejohndo

Sleeps all night, and he works all day!

It's a sad day when you find an atheist defending freedom of religion.

When you all you have is a hammer, every problem is a nail. When you've never done anything your whole life but collect taxes from people to attempt to fix problems ...

re: #113 taejohndo

"He's a lumberjack and he's OK ..."

Here you go.

re: #99 buzzsawmonkey

Later, he shaved off the bunions and threw them into the Great Lakes, which was the beginning of the Doctor Shoals.

I can imagine how many lizards are now kicking themselves at that corny pun.

re: #114 Thanos

You heard me -- take your case to court, don't argue it with me, do you have the "bawls" AF?

Thanos, I have always admired your posts. However, there has (not will) there HAS become a time when the general populous will no longer tolerate the threat of islamists.

Now, you may wish to learn just what the "general populous" means:

It is a collective society; perhaps to start in the USA, but already in place throughout Europe.

We're not going to play to these pussies with guns. I might get the banning stick, but you know what? When it all comes down to "done and said", theh islamists are nothing but pussies with guns.

We'll win. It'll be long and it'll be bloody but in the end, we'll win. There is no place for the flakes or freaks of islam in the West.

re: #119 Thanos

It's a sad day when you find an atheist defending freedom of religion.

I'm relatively certain that what every you might be doing here, defending religion is not it...

or this...?

For Want of a Nail

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

"An important thing to note is that these chains of causality are only ever seen in hindsight. Nobody ever lamented, upon seeing his unshod horse, that the kingdom would eventually fall because of it." from Wiki

re: #126 doriangrey

I'm relatively certain that what every you might be doing here, defending religion is not it...

You are absolutely right, I'm not defending religion. I am defending everyone's rights to practice of it.

re: #124 Allah al Fubar

So I take it you aren't going to go find a willing prosecutor and live up to the challenge? Maybe you could find a Jindal appointee willing to carry the case forward?
Allah, you might belong to a collectivist society, I'm an individual firmly in love with our constitution.

re: #127 hermit

or this...?

For Want of a Nail

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

"An important thing to note is that these chains of causality are only ever seen in hindsight. Nobody ever lamented, upon seeing his unshod horse, that the kingdom would eventually fall because of it." from Wiki

. . . or, in Harold Godwinson's case, the kingdom was lost all for the want of stirrups.

re: #121 gmsc

Here you go.

Several years ago my wife was traveling with a team to Las Vegas from St. Louis. One guy was sitting next to an older woman and somehow they got to talking about TV. At one point he commented that he really liked Monty Python reruns but PBS wasn't showing them all, and he couldn't find videos of the show. She told him that maybe her SIL Steven could help -- he was in business in Hollywood and might have connections. "I don't know," he said, "It was a British show and they can be hard to find." She assured him if any one could help, Steve could. Later in the flight, he asked he what she was going to be doing in Vegas. She told him her SIL had his jet there and she was going to catch a ride on it to visit her daughter. Turns out the SIL was Spielberg. I don't know if he ever got the MP shows.

Note to self:

Dear Hermit,

I am fine. How are you?

Never, ever, EVER use Quote when someone has posted something heinous. You should use Reply or you will be deleted.

Love,
Hermit

re: #109 stevieray

Feh.

My Giants didn't look sharp at all today. The idjit Plax is disrupting their groove.

Get rid of him, make the announcement by Tuesday, and let the team move on.

why do you think the rooney's kicked him out of pittsburgh, the playah is a real problem.

Shuttle down safely.

re: #128 Thanos

You are absolutely right, I'm not defending religion. I am defending everyone's rights to practice of it.

Ummm, nope, pretty sure you aren't doing that either.

re: #135 doriangrey

Are you a mind reader too? Why don't you tell me what I am doing then?

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

Couldn't have said it better myself but that's exactly what I was thinking. Context is so essential.

re: #124 Allah al Fubar

I might get the banning stick...

No "might" about it. Checking your account shows that you've registered no less than 6 usernames at LGF. Take your violent fantasies elsewhere.

re: #136 Thanos

Are you a mind reader too? Why don't you tell me what I am doing then?

Nope, I am no mind reader, I don't know exactly what you are up to, but it isn't defending anyone's right to practice religion.

Old chemistry joke: what's this:

   Fe -- Fe
    /    
   Fe    Fe
      /
   Fe -- Fe

...a ferrous wheel!

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cowboys fan here. Don't lose hope. Nasty day for football. Plax needs to go, (nothing good ever happens to professional athletes at clubs), but I don't see anyone stopping the Giants before the Superbowl.

Your Cowboys are suddenly looking alive again. If they can keep T.O. from spreading his special brand of "joy" amongst his teammates, they might rally enough to reach the playoffs and do some damage.

re: #140 hillbilly geek

i thought it was a 6-iron :)

re: #133 coldwarrior

why do you think the rooney's kicked him out of pittsburgh, the playah is a real problem.

Well, you always hope a change of scenery will do some good, but often it doesn't.

He's reached the point of diminishing returns... time to send him packing.

re: #142 coldwarrior

true, true, family resemblance... the forward slashes must be filtered out

re: #143 stevieray

he was getting into heap big trouble here in pittsburgh, its a gimme that he would get worse in NYC...more temptations.

re: #139 doriangrey

Nope, I am no mind reader, I don't know exactly what you are up to, but it isn't defending anyone's right to practice religion.

Yes, I must have nefarious aims since I am defending our constitution against a ridiculous proposition.

re: #140 hillbilly geek

Old chemistry joke: what's this:

   Fe -- Fe
    /    
   Fe    Fe
   /
   Fe -- Fe

...a ferrous wheel!

Here's a T-shirt with that same design. It comes pre-ironed!

re: #145 coldwarrior
Fox sports said he gonna be charged with illegal possesion of a firearm. He should also be charged with stupidity beyond the call and excessive prima donnaism.

re: #140 hillbilly geek

Old chemistry joke: what's this:

   Fe -- Fe
    /    
   Fe    Fe
   /
   Fe -- Fe

...a ferrous wheel!

Johnny was a chemist's son,
But Johnny is no more.
What Johnny thought was H₂0
was H₂SO₄.

re: #85 Allah al Fubar

I still think that the practice of Islam should be banned. At least in the USA.

Careful now. Thanos is right - it's constitutionally protected.

re: #140 hillbilly geek

Old chemistry joke: what's this:

   Fe -- Fe
    /    
   Fe    Fe
   /
   Fe -- Fe

...a ferrous wheel!

That's all well and good, but remember that chemical periodicity is "just a theory".

re: #148 pingjockey

that'll be his second gun violation.

re: #146 Thanos

Yes, I must have nefarious aims since I am defending our constitution against a ridiculous proposition.

You are doing no such thing. If anything you are placing constraints on our constitution that neither actually do exist, nor were ever intended to exist. The US Constitution is not and never was intended to be a suicide pact. It actually has provision built right into to it to allow flexibility in dealing with issues such as this. And yes, we could ban Islam without compromising the Constitution.

It would without a question of a doubt offend some people, well people like you who perhaps haven't spent much time reading either the constitution itself, or the written works of the founding fathers.

re: #51 MandyManners

If I had a hammer.

If I had a hammer, I'd bash in the skull of the nearest folksinger!

j/k

re: #154 mikalm
Belushi in 'Animal House' does in some folksingers guitar. Can't remember who though.

re: #127 hermit

"An important thing to note is that these chains of causality are only ever seen in hindsight. Nobody ever lamented, upon seeing his unshod horse, that the kingdom would eventually fall because of it." from Wiki

Actually, these causal chains are quite commonly perceived before the fact in such mental conditions as paranoia, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and certain forms of depression. The person with these conditions sometimes becomes paralyzed in action because they immediately perceive a negative string of events happening after any possible course.

re: #155 pingjockey

Stephen Bishop. He wrote the title track for that movie.

re: #153 doriangrey

You are doing no such thing. If anything you are placing constraints on our constitution that neither actually do exist, nor were ever intended to exist. The US Constitution is not and never was intended to be a suicide pact. It actually has provision built right into to it to allow flexibility in dealing with issues such as this. And yes, we could ban Islam without compromising the Constitution.

It would without a question of a doubt offend some people, well people like you who perhaps haven't spent much time reading either the constitution itself, or the written works of the founding fathers.

Well then the challenge is out there, take your case to court - mighty constitutional scholar that you are you would be assured a win n'est ce pas?

re: #157 mikalm
D'oh. Smacks self on head. Thanks.

I don't think any religious group should be allowed to preach/teach that killing members of other 'groups' based on race, nationality, religion, or sexual orientation should be allowed. I would like it at least taken to the courts. It's against the law to discriminate against most "groups." But OK for some groups to teach/preach killing.
I would think there should already be laws against it.

BBL. Y'all fight nice.

I don't see the point.

re: #153 doriangrey

You are doing no such thing. If anything you are placing constraints on our constitution that neither actually do exist, nor were ever intended to exist. The US Constitution is not and never was intended to be a suicide pact. It actually has provision built right into to it to allow flexibility in dealing with issues such as this. And yes, we could ban Islam without compromising the Constitution.

It would without a question of a doubt offend some people, well people like you who perhaps haven't spent much time reading either the constitution itself, or the written works of the founding fathers.

Fabulous idea! While we're at it, let's ban the practice of Mormonism (don't their members dabble in politics?), Christian Fundamentalists (those evil so-cons), and Christian rock bands (well, their music gives me the creeps).
/sarc

re: #153 doriangrey

You are doing no such thing. If anything you are placing constraints on our constitution that neither actually do exist, nor were ever intended to exist. The US Constitution is not and never was intended to be a suicide pact. It actually has provision built right into to it to allow flexibility in dealing with issues such as this. And yes, we could ban Islam without compromising the Constitution.

Oh please, not this again. Thanos is right, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights do protect freedom of religion in this country, and this hare-brained idea of "banning Islam" has no more chance of ever becoming a reality than it did the last hundred times it showed up in our comments.

If you think this is an idea whose time has come, then go on, get out there, enlist political support, lobby politicians, pass the legislation to void the Constitution for one special religious group, and then try to enforce it.

Good luck with that.

re: #139 doriangrey

Nope, I am no mind reader, I don't know exactly what you are up to, but it isn't defending anyone's right to practice religion.

Dorian, Of all the people here I have never found Thanos to be anti-relegious, there are many here, and BTW I like your post also.

re: #151 gmsc
Heh.
Let's not forget the four humors and leeches... or was it trans fats? Medical certainties are not so much, either. But someone will make a buck or two at it anyway.

Pimf/ relegious=religion

re: #154 mikalm

If I had a hammer, I'd bash in the skull of the nearest folksinger!

j/k

The problem with folk music is, it’s written by the people.
-Tom Lehrer

re: #169 hillbilly geek

Quick question, HG:

How, in the name of all that's good and decent, did you end up with a negative karma rating?

Heh. Actually not sure... I think I spoke up once too often on one of the creation threads. But it was a bit of a shock when Charles instituted the karma system, and i actually saw it.

...more chemistry humor...
A chemistry teacher was berating the students for not learning the Periodic Table of the Elements. She said, "Why when I was your age I knew both their names and weights." One kid popped up, "Yeah, but teach, there were so few of them back then.

re: #167 hillbilly geek

Heh.
Let's not forget the four humors and leeches... or was it trans fats? Medical certainties are not so much, either. But someone will make a buck or two at it anyway.

Don't forget tires that have zero death crystals!
;)

re: #171 hillbilly geek

Understood. As I've said before, I stay off those threads, as I just don't want to p!ss off too many people here, whatever their opinions on that subject.

re: #166 BBev

Thanks for the support, there aren't many atheists out there who like the idea of a nation with a firm base in religion levened with a secular reason driven constitution, so I can understand how my defense of science & liberty can get misinterpreted by some.

re: #171 hillbilly geek

Heh. Actually not sure... I think I spoke up once too often on one of the creation threads. But it was a bit of a shock when Charles instituted the karma system, and i actually saw it.

...more chemistry humor...
A chemistry teacher was berating the students for not learning the Periodic Table of the Elements. She said, "Why when I was your age I knew both their names and weights." One kid popped up, "Yeah, but teach, there were so few of them back then.

A biology teacher was talking about how blood circulates. Making a particular point the teacher asks, "Does anybody know why, when I stand on my head, the blood rushes to my head, yet when I stand on my feet, the blood doesn't rush to my feet?"

One student replied, "Because your feet ain't empty?"

re: #172 gmsc

Don't forget tires that have zero death crystals!
;)

Hah! I'm respecting my scalp, but the hair is slowly leaving.

Stephen Wright, referring to a glass of water:
"I mixed this myself. Two parts H, one part O. I don't trust anybody!"

I thought hate speech was against the law. Some groups have to follow and other groups don't. You don't have to outlaw a religion, but haul the people within them that are spewing the most awful hate speech off to jail.

re: #177 yah

I thought hate speech was against the law. Some groups have to follow and other groups don't. You don't have to outlaw a religion, but haul the people within them that are spewing the most awful hate speech off to jail.

Ah, but what is defined as hate speech? There lies another slippery slope.

Charles ~ I noticed that my comment from earlier today was deleted. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend.

There is a concept of free speech in America. The only time someone can get arrested for saying something is if it directly incites violence, or if they threaten to kill the president.

re: #176 hillbilly geek

Hah! I'm respecting my scalp, but the hair is slowly leaving.

Stephen Wright, referring to a glass of water:
"I mixed this myself. Two parts H, one part O. I don't trust anybody!"

I love Stephen Wright. My favorite goes something like this:

"One time I... wait... that wasn't me."

re: #176 hillbilly geek

Hah! I'm respecting my scalp, but the hair is slowly leaving.

Stephen Wright, referring to a glass of water:
"I mixed this myself. Two parts H, one part O. I don't trust anybody!"

On Futurama, the Slurm factory has its own glacial spring water generator!

re: #181 poopeedoo

Yes: his delivery is a vital part of his charm; that deadpan, slightly? stoned calm. Surprisingly tough to imitate.

re: #174 Thanos

That's a very healthy and enlightened attitude, Thanos. Too many self-proclaimed atheists are anti-clerical bigots, and it's good to see one who recognizes the social value of faith traditions, even though he's not himself a believer.

Personally, I am as close to an advocate of absolute freedom of religion as you'll ever find. I believe that all people should be able to seek Truth in whatever manner they desire, so long as their practices don't violate criminal law or basic individual rights. Every incident of Muslim evildoing we've discussed here -- murder, conspiracy, enslavement, etc. -- is something that's already covered by existing law, and can be addressed without violating First Amendment protections.

re: #178 hillbilly geek

Well, when you tell people to go out MURDER other people it should be against the law. I don't think that should be too hard for most people to grasp that that is hateful.
The Mafia is not allowed to get away wth it.

re: #181 poopeedoo

I love Stephen Wright. My favorite goes something like this:

"One time I... wait... that wasn't me."

My favorite line of his: "I put instant coffee in a microwave oven and almost went back in time."

re: #181 poopeedoo

I love Stephen Wright. My favorite goes something like this:

"One time I... wait... that wasn't me."

Mine is the routine about his car keys:

"One time, I accidentally put my car key in my house. My house started up. So I drove it around for a while.

"I drove it up on the freeway, and stopped. I went out and yelled at everybody, 'Get off of my driveway!

"A policeman came up to check out all the trouble. He asked where I lived. I said, 'Here!'"

re: #184 mikalm

Yeah, the rabid secularists piss me off too.

Gotta run, Lizards. See ya's later!

re: #185 yah

I do agree: that qualifies. The limit for me to swing my arms should end well short of your nose, etc. The concept of "hate speech" seems to me to be an elastic one. Seems incitement to commit violence and murder could be classified in some other way.

re: #174 Thanos

Thanks for the support, there aren't many atheists out there who like the idea of a nation with a firm base in religion levened with a secular reason driven constitution, so I can understand how my defense of science & liberty can get misinterpreted by some.

Yup.

Just saw this quote:

It is disconcerting to reflect on the number of students we have flunked in chemistry for not knowing what we later found to be untrue.
--quoted in Robert L. Weber, Science With a Smile (1992)

...hmmm. Have to think on it for a bit.

I really gotta stop, but I found another one:

This reminds me of a story of two students who wanted to celebrate the long and light summer evening by fishing in their boat in the Norwegian fjord. But first they went to the lab, grabbed a bottle with the magic label 96%, and set off. After some time, the one said to
the other:
- I am afraid we have done something wrong. This is not ethanol, it is sulphuric acid.
Said the other:
- I know. I have just peed a hole in the boat.

Op-Ed piece by Thomas al Friedman in NYSlimes.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...] FTA:

If he [0bama] can pull this off, and help that decent Iraq take root, Obama and the Democrats could not only end the Iraq war but salvage something positive from it. Nothing would do more to enhance the Democratic Party’s national security credentials than that.

The gall of these sub-human dimokkkrats. They should be hanged upon the nail in this pix until thay come to their senses.

re: #194 Tarheel

Disgusting, but not surprising. The dems will try to take credit for any success.

re: #174 Thanos

Thanks for the support, there aren't many atheists out there who like the idea of a nation with a firm base in religion levened with a secular reason driven constitution, so I can understand how my defense of science & liberty can get misinterpreted by some.

As I told my sister recently that I believe I would have more liberty as a christian in this country, with our current constitution, if all the politicians were atheists (true atheists, not anti-christians, mind you) and the churches were full, than to see one more christian politician reveal him/herself a complete hypocrite to those who supposedly share their faith.

BTW -- Thanks for your support

Back to the nail...when your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

re: #54 RubyTuesday

Tell that to M Lewinsky!
*wondering if she'll have an active role in the new administration along with all the other Clintonistas*

Dang, I was just coming here to make a similar joke! You lizards are too quick for me.

re: #59 kcladderman

Sometimes a cigar is a ... o never mind
Bill Clinton

I'm actually glad that Bill mistook a Cigar for a sex toy, and not the other way around. Burning silicone really stinks.

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

In their case, it is only the soy milk of human kindness.

*snicker* soy milk of human kindness to power they SmugMobiles

re: #199 Joan

*snicker* soy milk of human kindness to power they SmugMobiles

South Park Fans, it's time for Smug Alert!

Charles: Is this nail anywhere the faucet we were all admiring so recently?

Charles:

Do you use a digital camera? Is there a brand that's better than the rest?

whose coffin is it?

I took my kids to the doctor this summer. I assured them they wouldn't get a shot. It turns out the doctor was screening for tetanus boosters. Catch? They were screening parents. My kids thought it was REALLY funny.

re: #202 Tom on the rez

"re:Tom" -

There are SO MANY good digi-cams on the market today that it makes the head spin. Every surviving major Japanese camera maker has great stuff, as do others like Samsung, GE and Polaroid. Basic advice - get a digi-cam with 6 megapixels or more, and "shoot" you heart out. Disclaimer - mine is 3.2 megapixels - and - I am backed up by a 35mm film slr.

-S-

re: #205 Dr. Shalit

Reply to Self -

Add KODAK to that list, they may be made in Shanghai rather than Rochester, AND, are still really good.

-S-

"The nail that stands out will be hammered down."
~Dear leader Barack Hussein Obama II~

All kneel and be assimilated.