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Open | Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:13:48 pm PST

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

Dan Quayle

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1 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:15:34pm

Irony, thy name is Quayle.

2 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:15:40pm
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

James Carville and Dick Morris come to mind.

3 Silvergirl  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:16:23pm
4 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:16:30pm
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

Don't even get me started on Mohammed.

5 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:17:32pm

How about all the appointees who've managed to crawl out from under the bus?
/Rev. Wright! Are you in there?

6 ggt  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:17:34pm

weet dreams all!

7 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:17:35pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

James Carville and Dick Morris come to mind.

I think it's Carville's voice. I don't like his political leanings but he's got a great voice.

8 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:20:01pm

re: #7 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I think it's Carville's voice. I don't like his political leanings but he's got a great voice.

It's not his mug, that's for sure.

9 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:21:00pm

As wrong as it is for a man to say another is handsome, I must confess Carville is ugly and then some.

10 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:21:02pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

It's not his mug, that's for sure.

I thought, when I first arrived here, that that was who y'all meant by referring to Skeletor...

11 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:22:03pm

it's obvious Dan foresaw Juggy taking office.

/and yet the media said he was st00pid...... %-)

12 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:22:24pm

re: #10 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I thought, when I first arrived here, that that was who y'all meant by referring to Skeletor...

Rumor is he might replace Colmes. Or some babe would be nice, politics nothwithstanding.

14 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:23:53pm

re: #12 Abu Bin Squid

Rumor is he might replace Colmes. Or some babe would be nice, politics nothwithstanding.

First you'd have to find a babe who's left leaning and isn't in Hollywood.

15 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:24:21pm

re: #9 Abu Bin Squid

As wrong as it is for a man to say another is handsome, I must confess Carville is ugly and then some.

I'm not one to pick on another person's looks either- but that right there- Carville and Colmes- is one heaping pile of ugly.

16 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:25:58pm

re: #15 Sharmuta

I'm not one to pick on another person's looks either- but that right there- Carville and Colmes- is one heaping pile of ugly.

And doubly clueless.

17 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:26:38pm

*Runs in from the Jindal thread, hair on fire, grabs a pitcher of beer and pours it over his head*

Hi, Lizards!

18 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:27:42pm

re: #17 SurferDoc

*Runs in from the Jindal thread, hair on fire, grabs a pitcher of beer and pours it over his head*

Hi, Lizards!

Spicolli, how are you?

/

19 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:28:33pm

re: #18 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Spicolli, how are you?

/

Hysterical and wet!

20 Silvergirl  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:28:59pm

An upding for the laugh.

21 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:29:31pm

:-)

22 realwest  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:30:13pm

re: #17 SurferDoc
WAIT! You wasted all that beer?! Just cause your hair was on fire?!

23 gmsc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:30:33pm

Activists Seek Revocation of Tax Exempt Status of Churches That Supported Prop 8

San Francisco Chronicle: Tax-Exempt Benefit Disputed in Prop. 8 Campaign, by Matthai Kuruvila:

In the wake of Proposition 8's passage, opponents are railing that churches that supported the ballot measure violated their tax-exempt status.

It's a common accusation at the now-weekly protests, gaining enough traction that Geoff Kors, a member of the No on 8 executive committee, said lawyers are investigating the issue. "The Mormon church overstepped its boundaries by being a tax-exempt organization," said Sharone Negev, 54, of San Francisco, who has gone to protests in San Francisco and the Mormon temple in Oakland. "They clearly are not supposed to be involved in political activities."

But interviews with experts and activists on the issue say Prop. 8 opponents should look elsewhere for reasons to criticize the measure's supporters. "They almost certainly have not violated their tax exemption," said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, the leading advocacy organization on the issue. "While the tax code has a zero tolerance for endorsements of candidates, the tax code gives wide latitude for churches to engage in discussions of policy matters and moral questions, including when posed as initiatives."

(Hat Tip: How Appealing.) See also Cain: CA Churches Will Not Lose Tax Exemptions for Performing Same-Sex Marriages If Prop 8 Fails (10/23/08).

Trivia: When Joseph Smith formed the Mormon Church, the US government repeatedly tried to prosecute them for polygamy, while Joseph Smith kept claiming freedom of religion.

Finally, the US government threatened to revoke the Mormon Church's tax-exempt status. Shortly after that, Joseph Smith reported having a vision that God told him polygamy was wrong.

It's a miracle!

24 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:31:07pm

re: #22 realwest

WAIT! You wasted all that beer?! Just cause your hair was on fire?!

Oh, was that your beer? My beer is right here!

25 realwest  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:32:09pm

Well all y'all it's been interesting tonight - but it's WAAAY past my bedtime.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

26 ledger1  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:32:37pm

The “Barack Obama Crash” continues:

DJI 8149.09 -679.95 (-7.70%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET

People’s 401Ks are turning into .401Ks

On the bright side, after a brief dead cat bounce the NYT is plunging.

New York Times Co. Class A (NYT) 6.97 -0.57 (-7.56%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET

27 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:32:46pm

Nite, realwest!

28 democast  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:38:30pm

I usually post articles in the Spinoff-Links, not here in the dialogue, but your feedback could help me. Does anybody care whether I do or don't continue publishing? Does anybody like it? What do you get out of my publishing? Am I changing any minds? It seems like we keep slipping. As Steve Emerson writes today: "

Watching and reading the last 5 days of reports of the Mumbai attacks was an Alice in Wonderland experience. Even after an Islamic terrorist group took credit, TV anchors and reporters assiduously avoided the term Islamic terrorist. "


Obama keeps stocking-up on anti-Zionists who'll pariah-ify Israel and by proxy, Jewish people everywhere. Has it come to this - checkmate?

29 LeePro  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:43:01pm

re: #9 Abu Bin Squid

As wrong as it is for a man to say another is handsome, I must confess Carville is ugly and then some.

Carville and Colmes — both hatched from the same nest of snake eggs.

30 gmsc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:43:11pm

re: #26 ledger1

The “Barack Obama Crash” continues:

DJI 8149.09 -679.95 (-7.70%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET

People’s 401Ks are turning into .401Ks

On the bright side, after a brief dead cat bounce the NYT is plunging.

New York Times Co. Class A (NYT) 6.97 -0.57 (-7.56%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET

Here's an interesting experiment:

Check out the Intrade US Presidential Election 2008 Historical Data. If you examine it closely, you'll notice that 0bama really starts to be considered a serious possibility as US President around Sept. 28-29 of this year.

OK, so let's check out how the Dow Jones Industrial Average has performed since that day.

31 gmsc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:45:51pm

re: #30 gmsc

Here's an interesting experiment:

Check out the Intrade US Presidential Election 2008 Historical Data. If you examine it closely, you'll notice that 0bama really starts to be considered a serious possibility as US President around Sept. 28-29 of this year.

OK, so let's check out how the Dow Jones Industrial Average has performed since that day.

Also, notice by going back further, the market was comparatively stable (even though it was dropping slightly) up to that point.

However, since Barack 0bama has been considered a very real possibility as US President, the market has lost more than 25% of its value!

32 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:47:56pm

re: #31 gmsc

Also, notice by going back further, the market was comparatively stable (even though it was dropping slightly) up to that point.

However, since Barack 0bama has been considered a very real possibility as US President, the market has lost more than 25% of its value!

Barack Obama: making stocks so cheap that even poor people can afford them. Share your stock!

/

33 ledger1  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:51:52pm

re: #30 gmsc

Here's an interesting experiment:

Check out the Intrade US Presidential Election 2008 Historical Data. If you examine it closely, you'll notice that 0bama really starts to be considered a serious possibility as US President around Sept. 28-29 of this year.

OK, so let's check out how the Dow Jones Industrial Average has performed since that day.

It looks like as Obama gained in the poles with his “tax the 401ks” the stock market started to tank. And, after his win it went down faster. Well, crashed is a better word. The Wilshire 5000 has probably lost 3 trillion dollars due to Obama.

Gad, Obama is a wrecking ball.

34 LeePro  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:53:40pm

re: #32 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Barack Obama: making stocks so cheap that even poor people can afford them. Share your stock!

/

Yup. Thanks to B. Hussein, my portfolio now ↓ 38%

35 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:55:46pm

re: #34 LeePro

Yup. Thanks to B. Hussein, my portfolio now ↓ 38%

Yeah, but just *think* of how you've helped other people with it! You've been very patriotic and stuff. Hope! Change!

/

36 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:56:36pm

re: #17 SurferDoc

*Runs in from the Jindal thread, hair on fire, grabs a pitcher of beer and pours it over his head*

Hi, Lizards!

down dig for wasting beer.....

/sorry: it's in the rules. %-)

37 ledger1  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:56:40pm

re: #34 LeePro

Mine is down about 9% since October - but it was 60% in cash at that time.

Thanks a lot Big 0!

38 gmsc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:57:41pm

re: #34 LeePro

Yup. Thanks to B. Hussein, my portfolio now ↓ 38%

Mine's ↓ 30%.

39 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:58:17pm

re: #22 realwest

WAIT! You wasted all that beer?! Just cause your hair was on fire?!

that's why i down dinged him....

/party foul on the LNDT

40 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:59:09pm

re: #36 redc1c4

down dig for wasting beer.....

/sorry: it's in the rules. %-)

I wrung out my shirt back into the pitcher!

41 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:59:34pm

re: #32 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Share your stock!


Just made some good turkey stock for stew. Come and get it!

42 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:59:48pm

re: #24 SurferDoc

Oh, was that your beer? My beer is right here!

funny.... the nurse said that was my urinal.....

hope you like Jeffewizzin. %-)

43 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:01:15am

Mine was up by 3 or 4% last week, but that was basically with someone else's play money.

44 stevieray  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:01:44am

re: #28 democast

Keep publishing. I know its like banging your head against the wall, but the Obama honeymoon will end, the MSM will either report the failures and survive or stay in rah rah mode and die, and his brand of leftism will be as welcome as Carter's.

If he governs from the left, he will fail. That's what the left does.

To quote a tired old sports cliche... you gotta be in the game to win it.

45 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:03:46am

Another thing... when gas was going for $4+/gal, Øbama said he was OK with the idea of $5 gas, his only problem was how quickly the price got there. At this rate he's going to have to slap a 300% tax on it to realize his dream.

46 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:06:27am

re: #45 Abu Al-Poopypants

Another thing... when gas was going for $4+/gal, Øbama said he was OK with the idea of $5 gas, his only problem was how quickly the price got there. At this rate he's going to have to slap a 300% tax on it to realize his dream.

Don't give him any ideas. ;)

47 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:08:00am

Source d'inspiration.

Here's another story you're unlikely to hear on the nightly news, but it's very worth reading. A reasonable translation can be had here.

We have shared our daily life with two US units for quite a while - they are the first and fourth companies of a prestigious infantry battalion whose name I will withhold for the sake of military secrecy. To the common man it is a unit just like any other. But we live with them and got to know them, and we henceforth know that we have the honor to live with one of the most renowned units of the US Army - one that the movies brought to the public as series showing “ordinary soldiers thrust into extraordinary events”. Who are they, those soldiers from abroad, how is their daily life, and what support do they bring to the men of our OMLT every day ? Few of them belong to the Easy Company, the one the TV series focuses on. This one nowadays is named Echo Company, and it has become the support company.

...

We seldom hear any harsh word, and from 5 AM onwards the camp chores are performed in beautiful order and always with excellent spirit. A passing American helicopter stops near a stranded vehicle just to check that everything is alright; an American combat team will rush to support ours before even knowing how dangerous the mission is - from what we have been given to witness, the American soldier is a beautiful and worthy heir to those who liberated France and Europe.

To those who bestow us with the honor of sharing their combat outposts and who everyday give proof of their military excellence, to those who pay the daily tribute of America’s army’s deployment on Afghan soil, to those we owned this article, ourselves hoping that we will always remain worthy of them and to always continue hearing them say that we are all the same band of brothers”.

It would appear that, for some Frenchmen, the spirit of Lafayette is alive and well.

48 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:08:33am

re: #33 ledger1

It looks like as Obama gained in the poles with his “tax the 401ks” the stock market started to tank. And, after his win it went down faster. Well, crashed is a better word. The Wilshire 5000 has probably lost 3 trillion dollars due to Obama.

Gad, Obama is a wrecking ball.

that's the call of the wrecking ball.....

sorry i couldn't find the good version. %-(

49 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:09:21am

re: #31 gmsc

At least it's looking like we'll have the filibuster, assuming of course that the republicans actually remember that they're supposed to STICK TOGETHER...

Also, I'd take Clinton 2.0 over Stalin Junior any day, and from the looks of things that's what we'll be getting. Will it suck? Yes, but it could be worse.

If nothing else, at least it will be entertaining.

/Not the good kind of entertaining, mind you, but sometimes it's quite satisfying to be like Nelson Muntz on the sidelines pointing your finger and yelling "Haw-haw!" as all hell breaks loose around you...

50 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:10:29am

gmsc: Thanks for putting that up. Inspiring

51 LeePro  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:10:32am

re: #43 Fenway_Nation

Mine was up by 3 or 4% last week, but that was basically with someone else's play money.

My ↓ 38% is since about this time last year (my portfolio's historical high point).

I don't usually pay that much attention to short term gains/losses. It's the overall picture that matters most to me.

52 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:11:27am

re: #49 NoSpam

At least it's looking like we'll have the filibuster, assuming of course that the republicans actually remember that they're supposed to STICK TOGETHER...

Also, I'd take Clinton 2.0 over Stalin Junior any day, and from the looks of things that's what we'll be getting. Will it suck? Yes, but it could be worse.

If nothing else, at least it will be entertaining.

/Not the good kind of entertaining, mind you, but sometimes it's quite satisfying to be like Nelson Muntz on the sidelines pointing your finger and yelling "Haw-haw!" as all hell breaks loose around you...

Interesting take. I agree, if we're going to have a bad president, Clinton 2.0 is preferably to Stalin Junior.

53 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:12:11am

re: #49 NoSpam

At least it's looking like we'll have the filibuster, assuming of course that the republicans actually remember that they're supposed to STICK TOGETHER...

well, i'm guessing you can pretty much count on McLame going over the fence every chance he gets, and likely dragging one or more fools with him.

what we need is party discipline, and the RNC is not the folks who will provide that,

54 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:13:11am

re: #50 SurferDoc

gmsc: Thanks for putting that up. Inspiring

You're welcome.

We need to remember to post good news every so often, too!

55 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:13:49am

re: #52 gmsc

The rate of recycled Clinton appointees is something like 63% so far.

Hopechange!

56 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:13:55am
57 LeePro  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:14:26am

re: #28 democast

Keep posting, democast!
This may very well be the only place some people even get a glimpse of the truth out there ! ! !

I know it seems futile sometimes, but if not us then WHO?

58 LeePro  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:16:42am

re: #40 SurferDoc

I wrung out my shirt back into the pitcher!

Eeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww ! ! !

% Þ

59 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:18:00am

re: #53 redc1c4

well, i'm guessing you can pretty much count on McLame going over the fence every chance he gets, and likely dragging one or more fools with him.

what we need is party discipline, and the RNC is not the folks who will provide that,

For McCain it's mostly on the immigration/bailout stuff. Yes, we are going to be stuck with massive bailouts, unfortunately.

Though I don't think the immigration stuff will fly...I don't really have a good reason for this other than my own personal feeling. I think it will probably get shoved to the back in favor of different shit-tastic offerings like healthcare.

60 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:18:57am

Øbama's Secretary of Defense is some Carter Administration National Security Council staffer.

:^)

61 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:20:19am

re: #56 gmsc

Hmmm . . . the toolbag is leaving China and heading into Mongolia now.

The Flying Tools!

It's a sign from the gods, symbolic of Obama's cabinet.

62 ledger1  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:20:32am

re: #38 gmsc

Mine's ↓ 30%.

When the Big 0 started with his “We will redistribute the wealth” theme I started selling. When he proposed taxing 401Ks and IRAs then I really put the pedal-to-the-metal and really started selling.

I am not going to buy until I hear better news on both those plans. Heck, I might as well invest in Chinese stocks. They probably have more of a free market compared to Zero’s economic redistribution plan. Further I am doubtful the big 0 can damage Chinese stocks. He can only wreck what he is close to.


I Don’t even want contemplate the limp response to an other terror attack from Zero ("Oh, we must look at the root cause, light a peace candle and negotiate through the UN…As President it is time we pay more to the UN.”).

63 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:23:48am

re: #61 NoSpam

Got a new bookmark... thanks/

64 LeePro  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:24:53am

re: #60 Abu Al-Poopypants

Øbama's Secretary of Defense is some Carter Administration National Security Council staffer.

:^)

He is also Bush's appointee (after Rummy), and seems to be doing a fair job in Iraq and Afghanistan...

65 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:26:28am

re: #62 ledger1

I am not going to buy until I hear better news on both those plans. Heck, I might as well invest in Chinese stocks. They probably have more of a free market compared to Zero’s economic redistribution plan. Further I am doubtful the big 0 can damage Chinese stocks. He can only wreck what he is close to.

VICTORY THROUGH DEFEAT (Hat tip: Tim Blair)

Communism was meant to bring down capitalism. Instead:

China’s President has issued a rare warning to the Communist Party, telling officials the global economic crisis could shake its 59-year grip on power.

Capitalism wins even when it’s losing.

66 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:27:16am

re: #62 ledger1

The funny thing about China is, as long as you don't actively criticize the gov't, you can pretty much get away with whatever you want over there. I saw some pretty interesting things. I also stepped in an open industrial sewer while walking around.

Also, Mao has pretty much become like a mascot character to them, like a communist Mickey Mouse. I am amused by this.

67 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:27:56am

re: #63 Mel Lono

gmsc's the one who actually found the website.

68 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:28:00am

re: #61 NoSpam

The Flying Tools!

It's a sign from the gods, symbolic of Obama's cabinet.

well, there goes another hour of my day.....

you bastard!

69 ledger1  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:28:11am

re: #48 redc1c4

That's a good one ;)

70 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:30:23am

re: #67 NoSpam

gmsc's the one who actually found the website.

Actually, it was a running gag on last night's open thread here at LGF.

The real credit should go to DesertSage, in message #4

71 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:32:59am

re: #68 redc1c4

well, there goes another hour of my day.....

you bastard!

If you follow it for 2 full hours, you'll see it go around the Earth!

72 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:33:57am

re: #69 ledger1

we try.....%-)

73 ledger1  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:34:32am

re: #65 gmsc

That is good to hear!

74 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:35:52am

re: #70 gmsc

Actually, it was a running gag on last night's open thread here at LGF.

The real credit should go to DesertSage, in message #4

what worries me is that there are already satellites flying for Skynet.

75 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:36:55am

re: #65 gmsc

Good find and the best news I've heard all day.
Welcome to the Hotel

A special treat for Californiaaaas.

76 Fibonacci  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:37:24am

And the sheeple bleat in unison:
Obaaaaah Ma.
Obaaaaah Ma.

77 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:38:04am

re: #71 gmsc

If you follow it for 2 full hours, you'll see it go around the Earth!

It's like that damn "Where is my airplane now?" screen that they have in some flights. Part of the reason I couldn't sleep on my last flight was beacuse the map's prominent display of my teeny little plane smack in the middle of the Pacific.

Yes. I know I'm floating a zillion miles above the Earth, kept in place by magic and fluid dynamics (mostly the magic). Please stop reminding me.

78 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:38:48am

re: #76 Fibonacci

As long as we don't hear any talk of Obama's promise to raise the chocolate ration to 20 grams, I think we'll come out of this one okay.

79 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:41:05am

re: #74 redc1c4

Red.. did you see the stars/moon tonite?

80 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:41:09am

re: #74 redc1c4

what worries me is that there are already satellites flying for Skynet.

Even worse, it's been self-aware for more than 11 years now! (Since Aug. 29, 1997)

81 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:43:34am

re: #77 NoSpam

It's like that damn "Where is my airplane now?" screen that they have in some flights. Part of the reason I couldn't sleep on my last flight was beacuse the map's prominent display of my teeny little plane smack in the middle of the Pacific.

Yes. I know I'm floating a zillion miles above the Earth, kept in place by magic and fluid dynamics (mostly the magic). Please stop reminding me.

maintenance isn't magic.......

/unless you're a 3rd world sort.

82 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:44:54am

re: #79 Mel Lono

Red.. did you see the stars/moon tonite?

and last night too.....

seems the man in the moon gets the Dow ticker........
biggest :( i've ever seen.

83 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:46:45am

Had a link to this on an earlier thread...Passe Comitatus...
But Drudge beat me to it.

84 LeePro  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:46:49am

It's that time again...

    ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

'Nite, {Lizards}!
¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

85 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:47:57am

re: #82 redc1c4

Split the uprights from where I was. Very cool.

86 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:50:27am

re: #84 LeePro

It's that time again...

    ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

'Nite, {Lizards}!
¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Good night!

87 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:50:28am

re: #80 gmsc

Wha?

88 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:50:55am

re: #82 redc1c4

biggest :( i've ever seen.


funny, had some bad times very recently, but that never came through til now.

89 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:51:33am

Night {LeePro}. Weet dreams.

90 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:53:09am

re: #88 Mel Lono

funny, had some bad times very recently, but that never came through til now.

make ya feel better, down in Oz and the ilk it's a happy face.

/just not my nature.

91 shanec99  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:54:00am

re: #4 Sharmuta

Don't even get me started on Mohammed.

There might be more appropriate adjectives to describe him... wierd is not the best among them.

92 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:54:57am

re: #84 LeePro

It's that time again...

    ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

'Nite, {Lizards}!
¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

yuck..... she drools in her sleep.

/grody to the max!

93 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:55:08am

Speaking of finances- I was thinking of getting this as a gift for my lil' nephew.....perhaps for no other reason than to see the look on my overbearing moonbat/vegan sister's face.

94 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:56:43am

re: #87 NoSpam

Wha?

It's a joke.

Back in 1969, the UK launched the first of its Skynet military satellites (They're up to Skynet 5 currently).

In the plot of the Terminator movies, "Skynet" is the name of a fictional series of artificially intelligent military satellites that controls all U.S. military weapons. Part of the plot of the Terminator movies is that, on August 29, 1997, they become self-aware, it deploys an army of Terminator robots against all of humanity, and eventually destroys all of humanity when it launches a full nuclear holocaust, making humanity extinct.

95 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:57:45am

re: #90 redc1c4

make ya feel better, down in Oz and the ilk it's a happy face.

/just not my nature.

It was until the clouds started rolling in. At least I caught a glimpse.

96 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:24am

re: #93 Fenway_Nation

That's just cruel and unjust towards your sister. Only thing worse would be showing up with a turducken for her to roast.

/keep up the good work

97 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:28am

re: #53 redc1c4

what we need is party discipline, and the RNC is not the folks who will provide that,

We wouldn't need that if we elected principled people.

98 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:31am

re: #95 Crux Australis

Wish You were Here
Til I kick you out the door.

99 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:48am

re: #94 gmsc

I thought Skynet launched the nukes first and sent the Terminators after the survivors once the dust cleared.

100 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:01:37am

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

I thought Skynet launched the nukes first and sent the Terminators after the survivors once the dust cleared.

I never could follow that poltline right.

101 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:04:08am

re: #100 gmsc

Only thing I didn't like about the third movie was that it said no matter what they did, the terminator future was inevitable.

/so much for "No fate, but what we make"

102 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:04:43am

Tool bag alert. Crossing tip of S. America. Heading East by East.

103 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:05:57am

re: #97 Sharmuta

We wouldn't need that if we elected principled people.

two sides of the same problem.....

the asshats keep promulgating asshats & we want to vote for Republicans.

104 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:09:09am

re: #96 BlueCanuck

Thanks Blue- actually, I thought that whole onestock site was pretty nifty and could actually serve some purpose beyond novelty. Let's say ya want to invest in a company that doesn't offer a Direct Stock Purchase Plan...and you're leery of paying comissions to brokers on an ongoing basis. One way around that could be to purchase a single stock from the onestock page.....and then continue to purchase more shares through that company's Dividend Reinvestment Program (where you can purchase more shares without a broker, but you have to own at least one share of the stock).

/Of course, there's the matter of the one-time transfer fee of about $40 that onestock charges.

105 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:09:19am

re: #98 Mel Lono

My favorite Pink Floyd

106 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:10:14am

re: #103 redc1c4

two sides of the same problem.....

the asshats keep promulgating asshats & we want to vote for Republicans.

Can't argue with that.

107 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:11:27am

re: #105 Crux Australis

My favorite Pink Floyd

My favorite Pink Floyd.

108 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:15:09am

re: #107 gmsc

My favorite Pink Floyd.

My favorite Pink Floyd

109 The Other Les  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:20:01am
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

— Dan Quayle


Okay. That qualifies as real wisdom.

110 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:20:44am

re: #109 The Other Les

Surprisingly prophetic.

111 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:21:10am

I like Blue's new avatar.

112 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:23:49am

re: #108 Sharmuta

Seamus
Now it's just getting silly. Always thought seamus was a basset.

113 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:24:46am

re: #105 Crux Australis

My favorite Pink Floyd

re: #107 gmsc

My favorite Pink Floyd.

re: #108 Sharmuta

My favorite Pink Floyd

Floyd Fight!

114 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:25:35am

re: #111 Sharmuta

Well thank you. *MWAH*

One of the many pictures I took this summer.

115 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:27:51am

Well this isn't my favourite Pink Floyd, it's up there.

/Crux Australis already posted it.

116 Dustyvet  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:34:29am

re: #61 NoSpam

The Flying Tools!

It's a sign from the gods, symbolic of Obama's cabinet.

The bag was one of the largest items ever lost by a spacewalking astronaut. NASA put the price tag of the tool bag at $100,000. I wonder if NASA will hit the astronaut with a Statement of Charges for the tool bag...?

117 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:34:48am

Way to kill the thread, Blue =P

118 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:35:56am

Tool bag preparing to enter Iranian airspace.

119 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:36:29am

re: #117 Fenway_Nation

I didn't know my keyboard was loaded, honest.

/I was only cleaning it.

120 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:37:11am

re: #118 Mel Lono

Tool bag preparing to enter Iranian airspace.

Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
/Crossing fingers

121 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:37:38am

re: #119 BlueCanuck

Is Blue really Plaxico Burress?

122 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:38:47am

re: #114 BlueCanuck

Well, Hon- us blue people have to stick together. ;)

123 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:39:08am

Proceed with Operation ScrewYou!

124 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:39:57am

re: #121 Fenway_Nation

Plaxico who?

/I think you just caught me sleeping

125 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:43:57am

re: #118 Mel Lono

Tool bag preparing to enter Iranian airspace.

re: #120 Fenway_Nation

Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
/Crossing fingers

Unless it knock dinnerjacket's motorcade into the "stan" countries, it's still in orbit.

126 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:46:13am

re: #124 BlueCanuck

Wide Reciever for the N.Y. Giants who was a busy guy this past weekend.

127 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:49:16am

re: #126 Fenway_Nation

Oh, that guy. Nope can't be me.

Rules for handguns.
1.) if carried, carried in a proper holster
2.) safety must always be engaged when holstered, and until actual use
3.) no round shall be chambered until you actually draw and intend to use
4.) NEVER EVER carry when alcohol is being imbibed. At home or in public

128 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:51:05am

re: #127 BlueCanuck

In which case, Burress apparently was 0-4 this weekend.

129 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:53:33am

re: #128 Fenway_Nation

I could probably add to that list and make it 0-n. I think he was breaking all the rules when it came to firearm use and ownership. Which makes me giggle when some one is shot by a weapon they were cleaning. Step one, ensure the breech is empty.

/how else are you going to clean the breech and barrel in the first place?

130 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:55:38am

re: #127 BlueCanuck

4.) NEVER EVER carry when alcohol is being imbibed. At home or in public

Well- that's odd. Who ever heard of drunken gun totters ever causing problems?

/

131 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:59:30am

I want fruitcup!

132 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

133 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:00:36am

Your wish is my command!

Sharmuta! :-)

134 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:01:01am

YES! Thanks, littleoldlady!

135 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:02:02am

re: #132 littleoldlady

Good morning littleoldlady. Thanks for the fruitcup.

/and the thread is saved yet again, as lizards lumber to the buffet to get that extra energy from sugars, vitamins and other good stuff.

136 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:02:08am

They had fruitcup at the casino tonight.....but who am I to turn away such consistently wonderful offerings?

137 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:02:21am

Yeah fruit! Thanks LoL.

138 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:02:54am

re: #132 littleoldlady
Yay! ( Slurp ) lol is teh rescue maven. [ I know Sharmuta, you is teh bomb]

139 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:03:20am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Fenway! :-)

tappin! :-)

140 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:03:22am

re: #132 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Good morning, LOL!

141 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:03:51am

Panhandler! :-)

/scrolls up to see who else is here.......

142 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:04:44am

gmsc! :-)

Howdy!

Mel! :-)

Dustyvet! :-)

143 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:05:37am

re: #141 littleoldlady

Morning Maam, sorry I'm late.

144 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:05:51am

re: #135 BlueCanuck

Limber lumbering lizards lapping lol's libations.

145 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:07:55am

Erik! :-)

The Les! :-)

/did I miss anyone?

146 Erik The Red  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:09:23am

re: #145 littleoldlady

Erik! :-)

The Les! :-)

/did I miss anyone?

Morning lol thank you for fruitcup.

147 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:10:36am

Cautious chameleons carefully consuming cantaloupe.

148 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:11:05am
149 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:12:47am

re: #147 tappin52

Cautious chameleons carefully consuming cantaloupe.

This thread brought to you by the letter G and number 7. Can you say "fruitcup" boys and girls?

150 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:12:47am

re: #148 Sharmuta

Be very careful when you are entering the number of copies you want next time. :)

/could have been worse it could have been something else multiplied.

151 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:14:06am

re: #148 Sharmuta

Doesn't get any cuter than that!

/wow, that's SOME litter!

152 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:17:43am

re: #149 Panhandler

I am reminded of a time when my husband and I were watching The Wiggles with our young granddaughter. My husband could barely tolerate the show and when they started to sing the Fruit Salad song he couldn't grab the remote fast enough.

153 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:20:45am

re: #152 tappin52

It makes you wonder just how many grandparents, or parents for that matter, who are still undergoing Barney councilling.

154 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:21:36am

Oh. Grandchildren. I forgot about that.

/just when you think it's safe to turn the TV back on
//with any luck, Barney will be dead by then...

155 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:22:14am

re: #153 Panhandler

BWAHAHA!

/raises hand

156 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:24:26am

re: #154 littleoldlady

Nope, they will still be parading that fossillized costume around for decades to come.

157 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:25:20am

re: #156 BlueCanuck

[shudder!]

158 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:26:04am

re: #153 Panhandler

It makes you wonder just how many grandparents, or parents for that matter, who are still undergoing Barney councilling.

Here's what I call instant Barney de-programming.
;)

159 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:26:29am

re: #157 littleoldlady

Yeah, and just think of the poor bastard stuck in it. I wonder if the poor person has a special therapist just to deal with that?

160 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:27:06am

re: #154 littleoldlady


Chances are Barney will be dead and buried- his still-beating heart torn out from its chest cavity and greedily devoured by something a hundred times as insufferable and saccharine....

161 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:27:07am

re: #156 BlueCanuck

Nope, they will still be parading that fossillized costume around for decades to come.


Dang it Blue, here's another ID thread.

162 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:28:07am

re: #161 Panhandler

Sorry, my bad.

/don't go there, don't go there.

//that stick hurts.

163 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:28:23am

re: #159 BlueCanuck

I think they have to switch costume-wearers every few weeks.

/it's the voice guy I worry about...

164 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:28:39am

Good morning people.

Doing big assignment #1 of 2 due for tomorrow. Gonna be a looooooong night/morning.

165 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:29:30am

re: #160 Fenway_Nation

Yeah, well, we can dream can't we. Perhaps we can have a contest between Barney and the latest Palistinian suffering mouse.

166 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:30:38am

re: #164 TheMatrix31

Have you considered switching Majors to Interior Design?

167 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:30:43am

re: #159 BlueCanuck

Yeah, and just think of the poor bastard stuck in it. I wonder if the poor person has a special therapist just to deal with that?

Don't worry. David Joyner has other roles outside of Barney to keep him well-adjusted.

168 akak  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:32:01am

If the Chinese can now destroy the space station from space, can they also destroy military satellite's with same technology?

169 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:32:40am

re: #168 akak

If the Chinese can now destroy the space station from space, can they also destroy military satellite's with same technology?

Or even toolbags that are head for Argentina?

170 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:32:50am

Good night, all!

171 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:33:39am

Matrix! :-)

'Night, gmsc!

akak! :-)

172 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:34:06am

re: #166 Panhandler

Have you considered switching Majors to Interior Design?

Definitely not. I don't have the...uh...."sense" for that.

....not that there's anything wrong with that.

173 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:36:40am

Tool bag to take a left turn. I said Right!

174 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:38:09am

re: #167 gmsc

You call that career well adjusted? Never mind, have yourself a good night.

175 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:39:04am

Damn.. missed the screen capture. We could have had Peru! Anybody play Risk, i mean like in the last 20 years?

176 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:39:21am

re: #173 Mel Lono

I can't believe we are watching this.

/I can't believe I am watching this.

177 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:39:35am

re: #173 Mel Lono

Tool bag to take a left turn. I said Right!

It's pining for the fjords. Note that it will be passing Canaveral tomorrow.

178 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:40:15am

re: #175 Mel Lono

Do any of the online versions count?

/tentatively raises hand

179 Buster Bunny  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:41:34am

Toolbag just went past the tip of South America.

Can you get a tourist visa for this toolbag .. its really sight seeing around the world ... ?

180 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:42:07am

re: #178 BlueCanuck

yep. is that the one on addicting games online eh?

181 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:42:14am

re: #179 Buster Bunny

Wouldn't want it's itinerary. Hardly enough time to stop for food and pictures.

182 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:42:50am

re: #176 BlueCanuck

NASA's version of "Where's Waldo"

183 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:43:59am

Any kids watching, it's way past bedtime. But if you want to pass geography 1, not a bad screensaver.

184 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:44:35am

Is it true that Sarah Palin has a tattoo of the Big Dipper?

Interesting -----> my username

185 gregg  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:20am

According to the MN Secretary of State website, Al Fraken is now ahead by 4237 votes (91.13% of the ballots counted).

Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman 1,103,291
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken 1,107,528

Stuart Smalley say hello to Washington DC?

186 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:37am

re: #184 Crux Australis

Nope, she's got a southern cross.

187 Buster Bunny  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:40am

Toolbag goes to Gibraltar - heading for the sunshine ...

What a bag .. its got taste !

188 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:43am

re: #181 BlueCanuck

Wouldn't want it's itinerary. Hardly enough time to stop for food and pictures.

When Aldrin, Armstrong and Collins came back from their Lunar trip they hac to fill out a lot of paperwork. One form was for missed meals due to travel. They had to check "None" as "Goverment quarters and messing were provided".

189 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:58am

re: #184 Crux Australis

Or in English, the Southern Cross. :)

190 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:46:48am

Good Morning LGF.
The crisis in Canadian national politics continues to deepen. The 3 opposition parties announced yesterday that they have signed a formal deal to form a coalition government as soon as they get a chance to defeat the minority Conservative Government of Stephen Harper. Under the deal the Liberal Party (centre left) and the New Democratic Party (socialist) have agreed to combine forces until June, 2011, and have secured the support of the Parti Quebecois (separatist) until at least Spring, 2010.
Unless the Conservatives take the extraordinary step of proroguing (suspending) Parliament for up to 11 months, the leftist/separatist coalition will get a chance to vote down the Harper government as early as next Monday.
Under the coalition deal the new Prime Minister will be none other than the outgoing leader of the Liberal Party Stephane Dion, who less than 2 months ago led his party to its worst electoral defeat in over a hundred years, and who in disgrace was forced only last month to announce his intention to resign the Liberal leadership by May, 2009.
This move to negate the recent Conservative electoral victory is apparently quite legal from a constitutional point of view but if the power grab proceeds it will represent the closest thing to a coup d'etat that Canada will have ever experienced. There is little doubt that the government will become and remain weak and unstable for the foreseeable future - the last thing Canadians need during this critical period.
This is a cynical, dishonest, anti-democratic, contemptible, dirty, back-room deal between the power-hungry failed liberals, the lunatic fringe socialists and the scheming, Canada-hating Quebec separatists.
WAKE UP CANADA!

191 shiplord kirel  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:48:04am

In my comments on the spin-off link to Charles Vick's new article on Iranian and North Korean missiles, I mentioned Mr. Vick's amazing record of unraveling then-secret Soviet and Chinese projects during the Cold War. He scooped official sources time after time, with predictions and analyses that turned out to be wholly accurate when Soviet records finally became available in the 1990s.
Another of his feats was the determination that the Soviet's Proton booster had actually been designed as a monster ICBM to deliver a postulated 100 megaton warhead.
Like his research on the N-1 Moon rocket, his conclusions about Proton were widely rejected at the time (ca. 1970) but turned out to be true.

192 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:48:09am

re: #190 Spare O'Lake

What do you catch with that lure?

193 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:48:31am

re: #180 Mel Lono

No such thing as online addicting games.

194 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:49:21am

re: #190 Spare O'Lake

If this opposition block pulls it off, won't it be the first time in 80+ years that there's been a change of government in Canada without an election?

Sort of a bloodless coup d'etat?

/Someone gets some Canadian channels on XM

195 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:10am

re: #193 BlueCanuck

read that.. agree

196 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:27am

re: #194 Fenway_Nation

Yes, that's correct. As well it will never have happened so soon after an election. The current government hasn't even had a chance to table a budget for the coming fiscal year.

I think the Libs and NDP are pissed that the Conservatives aren't bailing out any of their core supporters, i.e. unions.

197 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:53am

re: #192 Mel Lono

What do you catch with that lure?

Mostly largemouth bass and smallmouth bass, and the occasional fascist troll.

198 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:54am

re: #174 BlueCanuck

No way.....Barney was a CTU SWAT operative in 24?

/Who does the background checks there?

199 shiplord kirel  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:58am

Reminds me. Are the moonbat fringe dwellers still trying to impeach Bush?

200 Erik The Red  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:52:07am

re: #153 Panhandler

It makes you wonder just how many grandparents, or parents for that matter, who are still undergoing Barney councilling.

Not just grandparents. Spare a thought for us parents of young kids. If I never hear Barney again it will be to soon.

201 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:52:49am

re: #196 BlueCanuck


What (if any) recourse does the voting public have?

202 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:53:24am

re: #196 BlueCanuck

the Conservatives aren't bailing out any of their core supporters, i.e. unions.


We have no part in this.

203 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:54:47am

re: #199 shiplord kirel


Yes....because the world can't wait!

204 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:55:53am

re: #197 Spare O'Lake

Well said... i'm a golden, spooked easily, rises in early morn, eats what catches my fancy. Lives free and dies in a pan.

205 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:56:03am

re: #201 Fenway_Nation

Another election? If there is a coalition I don't count on it lasting too long. There's a post in the linkviewer under Canada that leads to the National post column that talks about that actually.

206 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:57:56am

re: #186 Mel Lono

Nope, she's got a southern cross.

Sirius-ly? LOL

207 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:58:23am

Morning Lizards!

enjoying my fruitcup

208 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:01:43am

re: #194 Fenway_Nation

If this opposition block pulls it off, won't it be the first time in 80+ years that there's been a change of government in Canada without an election?
Sort of a bloodless coup d'etat?
/Someone gets some Canadian channels on XM

Exactly correct. Canada has no history of coalition governments. Even though we often get minority governments, they usually manage to muddle along for a couple of years until the next election.
This is a game-changer.

209 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:03:03am

What's in the fruitcup?

210 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:04:04am

re: #209 Crux Australis

What's in the fruitcup?

Only red knows for sure. *hic*

211 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:06:55am

re: #209 Crux Australis

What's in the fruitcup?

Hopefully Red Bull, or something that will keep me awake for a long time.

212 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:07:33am

re: #209 Crux Australis

Picky, picky!

/why look a gift fruitcup on the mouth?

213 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:08:43am

re: #208 Spare O'Lake

My initial thought was 'dipshit leftists emboldened by an 0bama victory'.....

I'm not really backing away from that one.

214 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:10:37am

re: #204 Mel Lono

There is no better place on a warm summer dawn than being anchored off a glassy calm lake weedline, casting a trusty old surface plug...

215 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:11:20am

re: #212 littleoldlady

Picky, picky!

/why look a gift fruitcup on the mouth?

You sound like my parents when I visit and ask what's for dinner. Sorry.

216 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:11:50am

re: #213 Fenway_Nation

Still thinking about firing off a letter to my MP. He might be a Liberal Fiberal, but he should listen to me. Going to the protest on Saturday at Queens Park against this coalition.

217 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:14:40am

re: #215 Crux Australis

Your parents are NICE!

/around here it's "Just shut up and it eat it, already!"

;-)

218 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:15:30am

re: #216 BlueCanuck

It's hopeless.....your cause lacks giant paper maiche puppets.

219 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:17:27am

re: #213 Fenway_Nation

My initial thought was 'dipshit leftists emboldened by an 0bama victory'.....
I'm not really backing away from that one.

Jack Layton (*spit*), the leader of the NDP (*spit*), attended the Dem convention and brazenly appropriated a whole bunch of Obamaspeak into his own campaign rhetoric.
These lefties are drooling at the prospect of using the current economic downturn as an excuse to SPEND, SPEND, SPEND.

220 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:18:20am

re: #217 littleoldlady

I love when my sons come to visit. They always eat all of the leftovers and make cleaning the fridge easy.

221 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:19:16am

re: #219 Spare O'Lake

Don't forget, TAX TAX TAX!

222 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:21:44am

Good morning Lizard Nation.

223 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:21:45am

re: #22 realwest It was Miller high life.
Rustler

224 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:22:25am

re: #221 BlueCanuck

Shhhhh - we're not supposed to know that just yet.
LOL.

225 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:22:50am

The champagne of bottled beer?

226 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:23:47am

re: #220 tappin52

My daughter is the opposite. Day after Thanksgiving - refrigerator LOADED with leftovers - "There's nothing to EAT!"

/the urge to kill...

227 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:25:49am

re: #226 littleoldlady

My daughter is the opposite. Day after Thanksgiving - refrigerator LOADED with leftovers - "There's nothing to EAT!"

/the urge to kill...

Send her out to CA. I'll take her out for dinner :)

228 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:26:07am

re: #226 littleoldlady

The days after Thanksgiving are not going to see me cooking at all. Its everyone for themselves til I recoup.

229 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:26:45am

re: #224 Spare O'Lake

I am just going on past performance.

/I DON'T have a memory of a goldfish when it comes to politics and history.

230 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:26:55am

The Chairman of Ford is going to drive a Ford back to DC to seek a bailout.
What is the over & under of the auto breaking down?

231 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:27:51am

re: #227 TheMatrix31

And she'll follow you around forever! ;-)

re: #228 tappin52

Yup!

/not to mention I can't afford to buy any more food at that point...

232 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:27:55am

re: #227 TheMatrix31

Hmmm, what's with all the single lizards hitting on the matron lizards daughters?

/Shades of Dorian threatening to stalk DT's daughter yesterday morning. ;)

233 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:28:42am

Stalk my daughter!

/PLEASE!

;-)

234 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:28:51am

Looks like the Labor Party in Australia are taxing and spending their way out of coming economic problems or so they think.

When the Labor Party comes to power in Australia you can almost guarantee that there are deficit budgets, tax increases and more unemployment.

235 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:29:14am

re: #226 littleoldlady

My daughter is the opposite. Day after Thanksgiving - refrigerator LOADED with leftovers - "There's nothing to EAT!"

/the urge to kill...

In my family kids don't do leftovers. Strictly parent food. LOL.

236 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:30:22am

re: #233 littleoldlady

Not me, she's too young for my liking. ;)

237 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:30:27am

re: #232 BlueCanuck

dorian hits on everyone *LOL*

238 Luigi  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:30:46am

Suddenly, from out of nowhere, they're going to deploy our military in American streets under the executive power of the President. Apparently, Bush has wanted this for a while but now, lo and behold, the idea is gaining traction..

[Link: news.google.com...]

This comes part and parcel with some new warning about terror attacks unwrapped by ... Joe Biden..

[Link: news.google.com...]

Since the end of the Civil War the US military has been restricted from prowling American streets. Now we are going to give the authority to do that to Barack Obama.

Just watch. They'll be using the military in the cities in 2012 to enforce mandatory voting.

239 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:33:24am

re: #232 BlueCanuck

Hmmm, what's with all the single lizards hitting on the matron lizards daughters?

/Shades of Dorian threatening to stalk DT's daughter yesterday morning. ;)

Hey, at least I'm trying to find a conservative girl!

240 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:33:43am

re: #237 rightside

dorian hits on everyone *LOL*

THE CAD!

Good morning, Lizards!

241 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:34:38am

Good morning {goddess}, ready to take on the day?

242 nonic  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:35:51am

re: #220 tappin52

I love when my sons come to visit. They always eat all of the leftovers and make cleaning the fridge easy.

I can top that. Nowadays my sons do all the cooking, too.

243 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:35:59am

re: #241 BlueCanuck

Good morning {goddess}, ready to take on the day?

{BlueCanuck} I think so! I got lots of chores done yesterday--it's amazing how just changing light bulbs ibrightens one's outlook!

244 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:37:10am

Mandatory sentencing laws in New York dictate 2.5 years in jail for having a gun not registered in the state.
Do they make an exception for Plaxico Buress, or is he toast?

245 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:37:47am

re: #243 goddessoftheclassroom

{BlueCanuck} I think so! I got lots of chores done yesterday--it's amazing how just changing light bulbs ibrightens one's outlook!

iBrighten? That better not be another damn Apple product!

246 NYCHardhat  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:39:57am

Good morning. Hope you all have a wonderful day making money.

247 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:40:01am

re: #245 TheMatrix31

iBrighten? That better not be another damn Apple product!

Whoops! I was going for the pun and committed a typo. My apologies!

248 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:41:44am

I could use a little iBrighten... :-/

Good day, ALL!™

249 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:43:40am

re: #240 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

250 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:44:03am

re: #248 littleoldlady

carpe diem, lol

251 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:45:02am

Bye littleoldlady, have a profitable day.

/any way you can get it.

252 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:45:23am

I didn't do eet

253 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:46:32am

re: #244 opnion

Mandatory sentencing laws in New York dictate 2.5 years in jail for having a gun not registered in the state.
Do they make an exception for Plaxico Buress, or is he toast?

first offense ,,,,, didn't mean it, your honor ,,,, never kicked a puppy ,,,,,,gave to toys for tots on the way in ,,,,,

slap on the wrist ,,, fine, community service, probation

254 srb1976  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:48:16am

Morning folks....hope everyone is well!
Trying to wake little man up gently, and it's actually cold outside.
(being grateful for defroster in the truck as I am a bit too short to effectively scrape the windshield)

255 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:49:30am

re: #248 littleoldlady

I could use a little iBrighten... :-/

Good day, ALL!™

{littleoldlady}!

In your opinion, is it worth a round-trip drive of about 120 miles and three and a half hours of travel time on a Saturday to save $50 in shipping costs?

256 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:49:32am

re: #253 sattv4u2

first offense ,,,,, didn't mean it, your honor ,,,, never kicked a puppy ,,,,,,gave to toys for tots on the way in ,,,,,

slap on the wrist ,,, fine, community service, probation

That sounds about right. The only thing that makes me think maybe not is Michael Vick. I know that the crimes are different, but it should bother Buress & his lawyer.

257 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:54:54am

re: #255 goddessoftheclassroom

{littleoldlady}!

In your opinion, is it worth a round-trip drive of about 120 miles and three and a half hours of travel time on a Saturday to save $50 in shipping costs?

goddess! :-)

No.

*p00f!*

258 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:56:53am

re: #253 sattv4u2

He has a prior weapons charge tho they talking mandatory 3.5 on Plax if found guilty.

259 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:58:09am

re: #257 littleoldlady

goddess! :-)

No.

*p00f!*

THANK YOU!

Any other points of view?

260 srb1976  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:59:10am

re: #259 goddessoftheclassroom

absolutely not worth it!

261 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:59:16am

re: #258 Rancher

He has a prior weapons charge tho they talking mandatory 3.5 on Plax if found guilty.

His team mate tried to hide the weapon. What about him? If there is a crime he abetted.

262 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:00:06am

Me after red's fruitcup

263 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:02:49am

re: #261 opnion

Yeah I was taling about Antonio Pierce Yesterday he's lawyered up and in negotiations atm to avoid charges. Dumb of him to hide the gun after the fact especially since he was calling plax dumb for bringing the gun to a club. Also dumb was the fact that he listened when Plax asked him not to call an ambulance because there would be questions and Plax had priors.

264 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:03:20am

Got to run--thanks for the shopping advice!

265 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:04:52am

There was also supposedly a 3rd giant present but no word on if he is/was connected with the incident.

266 srb1976  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:05:08am

I think I may need dynamite to get the little man out of bed.....lights on, movie running, baby sister playing in his room.....still fast asleep

267 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:06:33am

Would it not have been delicioulsy ironic if Plaxico "shot himself in the foot" instead of his leg !?!?

268 Rune  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:07:05am
It has also made it clear that if India again masses troops on the border, Pakistani forces would be diverted away from the tribal areas, allowing militants there to focus on Afghanistan.

Mumbai attacks ‘were a ploy to wreck Obama plan to isolate al-Qaeda’

- Pakistan is increasingly using its Taliban problem in the north as blackmail against the coalition in Afghanistan and any action India may take. But if Pakistan is unwilling or unable to maintain national sovereignty in those tribal areas, then they are no longer Pakistani territories and any other nation is free to take the military steps deemed necessary, without Pakistan having a say in the matter.

269 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:07:42am

Nah the Irony is he fumbled the gun.

270 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:07:48am

re: #266 srb1976

I think I may need dynamite to get the little man out of bed.....lights on, movie running, baby sister playing in his room.....still fast asleep

Thansk for clarifying. In your #254, I was a little worried about who your "little man" was

271 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:14:23am

Mornin lizards

272 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:17:42am

re: #268 Rune

Mumbai attacks ‘were a ploy to wreck Obama plan to isolate al-Qaeda’
- Pakistan is increasingly using its Taliban problem in the north as blackmail against the coalition in Afghanistan and any action India may take. But if Pakistan is unwilling or unable to maintain national sovereignty in those tribal areas, then they are no longer Pakistani territories and any other nation is free to take the military steps deemed necessary, without Pakistan having a say in the matter.

You are of course repeating Obama's stated policy on US intent to strike terrorist targets in the tribal areas if Pakistan will not do so. The question therefore becomes:
Will he do what he said he would do?
This may well be Obama's first major test.

273 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:20:21am

re: #272 Spare O'Lake
I can easily see him screwing the pooch on this one too. PLus the 3 or 4 that will follow in hte next 6 months.
Rustler

274 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:22:43am

re: #272 Spare O'Lake

You are of course repeating Obama's stated policy on US intent to strike terrorist targets in the tribal areas if Pakistan will not do so. The question therefore becomes:
Will he do what he said he would do?
This may well be Obama's first major test.

Right now its Bush's last, let's not look that far forward shall we? (that thought is depressing)

275 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:23:03am

re: #273 Rancher

I can easily see him screwing the pooch on this one too. PLus the 3 or 4 that will follow in hte next 6 months.
Rustler

The poor pooch is gonna need a can of mace and a bodyguard./

276 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:23:50am

re: #275 Spare O'Lake

The poor pooch is gonna need a can of mace and a bodyguard./

Or a whole jar of lube.


/bad blue, bad. . . . .

277 gregg  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:25:33am

From Bloomberg:

"GM, at risk of running out of operating cash this year, wants to stop paying union workers when plants are closed and there is no other work, people familiar with the company’s plans said."

What a novel idea.

278 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:25:47am

**sigh**

I still have a 10 page paper on the jury trial system to start.

279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:26:51am

re: #267 sattv4u2

Would it not have been delicioulsy ironic if Plaxico "shot himself in the foot" instead of his leg !?!?

Well, you know what they say, "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."

280 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:26:57am

re: #277 gregg

From Bloomberg:

"GM, at risk of running out of operating cash this year, wants to stop paying union workers when plants are closed and there is no other work, people familiar with the company’s plans said."

What a novel idea.

I'm wondering how many of those 'workers" do the same amount of work wheather the plant is open or not!

281 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:28:05am

re: #276 BlueCanuck

Or a whole jar of lube.


/bad blue, bad. . . . .

c'mere poochie poochie poochie

282 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:28:42am

re: #280 sattv4u2

I'm wondering how many of those 'workers" do the same amount of work wheather the plant is open or not!

Its their rice bowl.

283 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:29:24am

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, you know what they say, "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."

" ,,,,,,, I swear to God doctor, I was just bent over, minding my own business when this gerbil found it's way up my ass"

284 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:29:43am

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #283 sattv4u2

" ,,,,,,, I swear to God doctor, I was just bent over, minding my own business when this gerbil found it's way up my ass"

Barney Frank

285 Elcid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:30:26am

Charles, I must ask.

Did Dan Rather pick the background for you in your PJTV ad, or was it Mary Mapes...You know the brick wall?-------------->

286 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:30:37am

re: #283 sattv4u2

" ,,,,,,, I swear to God doctor, I was just bent over, minding my own business when this gerbil found it's way up my ass"

lemmiwinks!

287 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:31:16am

re: #280 sattv4u2

I'm wondering how many of those 'workers" do the same amount of work wheather the plant is open or not!

How dare you malign big 3 auto workers. Don't you know that they have increased their productivity by a third? They now work 4 hours per shift instead of 3.
/

288 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:31:49am

re: #278 TheMatrix31

**sigh**

I still have a 10 page paper on the jury trial system to start.

When is it due?

289 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:32:13am

re: #287 Spare O'Lake

How dare you malign big 3 auto workers. Don't you know that they have increased their productivity by a third? They now work 4 hours per shift instead of 3.
/

Well they're at work for 4 instead of 3 hours, but 2 hours of that is a union meeting, 1 hour is their mandatory union coffee break.

290 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:33:00am

re: #288 MandyManners

When is it due?

Must be after deliberations.

291 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:33:53am

Well my relief is here and it's time to go. Stay scaly all.

292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:34:20am

re: #289 Hengineer

Well they're at work for 4 instead of 3 hours, but 2 hours of that is a union meeting, 1 hour is their mandatory union coffee break.

"We get up at twelve and go to work at one....
Take an hour for lunch and then at two we're done....
Jolly Good Fun....
Ha Ha Ha
Ho Ho Ho
And a couple of Lah di dahs
That's how we work the day away in the Merry Ole Land of Oz!"

293 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:34:30am

re: #289 Hengineer Don't forget the 2 union mandated cofee/smoking breaks.
rustler

294 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:34:46am

Time for breakfast and then work. Later Lizards

295 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:35:34am

re: #293 Rancher nm you said coffee : P i must still be under teh effects of fruit cup.

296 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:37:24am

Rofl U.S. in the process of creating Ethical cybornetic beings now. FnF starts teh segment with the opening scene from one of the Terminator movies.

297 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:37:25am

re: #287 Spare O'Lake

Lets see if we can find a trend here

DETROIT ,,, Big Three ,,,,,, Union Workers ,,,,, Asking for a BAILOUT
ALABAMA ,, Honda,,, Hyundai ,,, Benz ,,NON Union ,,,,,, NOT asking
MISSISSIPPI ,,, Toyota ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, NON Union ,,,,,,,,NOT asking
GEORGAI ,,,,,,,, Kia ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NON Union ,,,,,,,,,NOT asking


naaahhhh ,,,, just a coincidence !

298 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:37:30am

The more I see the more I am convinced that Dan Quayle was a genius.

299 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:38:42am

re: #297 sattv4u2
Problem is the non big 3 are not American companies. A better analysis would be showing SW compared to the unionized airlines.

300 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:39:07am

re: #288 MandyManners

When is it due?

5pm tomorrow/today.

301 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:40:17am

Not that the unions aren't a big chunk of the need for bailouts among the big 3 but it's kinda hard for a Japanese, German or Korean automaker to ask the US for money.
Rustler

302 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:09am

Good Morning Lizards!

It is a nice 40 something degree day here in CT. I hope everyone is well.

Just a little holiday gift giving advise... don't give markers to a toddler.

303 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:18am

re: #300 TheMatrix31
Haha not quite time for teh red bull rush to finish then.

304 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:26am

re: #290 Hengineer

Must be after deliberations.

LOL!

305 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:29am

Good Morning, Mandy- did you see our friends at the stalker blog are now just making stuff up about LGF?

They're saying LGF supports the Kosovo Liberation Army. There's no link for that of course, so I went and got one for them.

Hope that helps- oh, wait.

306 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:33am

Worky Worky Earn ToFurkey!

307 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:42:02am

re: #300 TheMatrix31

5pm tomorrow/today.

Well, get cracking!

308 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:42:08am

re: #301 Rancher

Not that the unions aren't a big chunk of the need for bailouts among the big 3 but it's kinda hard for a Japanese, German or Korean automaker to ask the US for money.
Rustler

fixed that for ya

309 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:42:34am

re: #298 lifeofthemind

The more I see the more I am convinced that Dan Quayle was a genius.

An super genius. Like Wile E. Coyote.

310 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:43:33am

re: #23 gmsc

Activists Seek Revocation of Tax Exempt Status of Churches That Supported Prop 8

Trivia: When Joseph Smith formed the Mormon Church, the US government repeatedly tried to prosecute them for polygamy, while Joseph Smith kept claiming freedom of religion.

Finally, the US government threatened to revoke the Mormon Church's tax-exempt status. Shortly after that, Joseph Smith reported having a vision that God told him polygamy was wrong.

It's a miracle!

Polygamy was revoked decades after Joseph Smith's death. It had more to do with Utah statehood than anything else.

311 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:06am

re: #309 Wyatt Earp You'd think with all the money he send's ACME's way he could just hire a hitman to take out the silly bird.

312 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:12am

re: #307 MandyManners

Well, get cracking!

Finishing up my other assignment at the moment :-

313 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:22am

re: #305 Sharmuta

Good Morning, Mandy- did you see our friends at the stalker blog are now just making stuff up about LGF?

They're saying LGF supports the Kosovo Liberation Army. There's no link for that of course, so I went and got one for them.

Hope that helps- oh, wait.

I heard LGF2 supports Breasts Not Bombs.

314 Harry Tuttle  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:30am

0bama presidency ends in 1510 days

315 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:52am

re: #306 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Worky Worky Earn ToFurkey!

At least you don't work here.

316 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:45:39am

re: #313 DistantThunder

I heard LGF2 supports Breasts Not Bombs.

LMAO!

317 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:45:48am

Funny the way Palin and Romney's churches play such a big role in there electability yet Obama's racist church had virtually none.
Rustler

318 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:45:48am

re: #305 Sharmuta

Good Morning, Mandy- did you see our friends at the stalker blog are now just making stuff up about LGF?

They're saying LGF supports the Kosovo Liberation Army. There's no link for that of course, so I went and got one for them.

Hope that helps- oh, wait.

I rarely check it out.

I wonder if the Jindal thread will cause them to claim Charles hates Christians and eats babies.

319 3 wood  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:46:08am

Good morning folks.

Look the the market to open up this morning as the futures indexes are pointing up 2 to 2.5%.

The Nikkei and Hang Seng got hammered last night, but I think that was in response to the US market dropping like a rock yesterday, with the 4th worst one day point drop ever.

It is clear that investors are running from any risk now. We are seeing a pattern of the market getting pounded and oversold, the market then rises a bit as people pick up the oversold bargains, and then the market gets crushed again as investors sell off at the first sign of more bad news.

Depending on what definition you want to use, we have been in a recession for either a few months or one year. That is really besides the point, because all that matters now is what the future holds. So far it holds prospect of more layoffs and dropping profits.

Gold dropped down to $776.80 and oil to $49.10, so oil is close to $100 cheaper now than it was just a few months ago.

320 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:46:46am

re: #314 Harry Tuttle

0bama presidency ends in 1510 days

Awesome! We need a countdown clock!

321 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:47:34am

Wow oil dropped under $50 awesome Hugo must be having kittens.

323 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:48:10am

re: #317 Rancher

Funny the way Palin and Romney's churches play such a big role in there electability yet Obama's racist church had virtually none.
Rustler

Yeah, be a church that hates america and portrays white citizens as evil - in full-throated voice, from the pulpit and recorded for posterity - no problem.

324 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:48:13am
325 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:48:16am

re: #318 MandyManners

They already say that.

326 USCMSNE  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:48:38am

Dan Quayle was a decent and good man. Sure, he had his gaffes. What was his biggest flap? The Murphy Brown single parent plea? That sure sounded like a speech Bill Cosby made too. Sounded even more like a speech Obama gave this year on missing Dads. Where was the ridicule? Where was the press skewering Obama on the Womans reserved right to raise her own children by herself if she damn well pleased? I heard an interview with him in 2003 after the Iraq issue flared up. I was truly impressed. He laid out the philosophy of GHWB's plan in the 90's for Iraq, where their shortcomings where with it, where there miscalculations where, and stated a concise argument defending the current war. He mentioned about how, at the time, an EOD detachment had just destroyed a cache of VX they found in the desert (the WMD realm is broader than nuclear alone). In a post 9/11 world, in light of all the Hussein regimes atrocities, we, the US, weren't going to stand for it anymore. The same media that propped Obama on his pedastal is the same media that wouldn't characterize Quayle as anything but infantile. It's a shame that he is only going to be remembered for being given a misspelled que card. By the way, anyone care to take a guess as to how that spelling bee kid, the one who was smarter than the VP, is doing now?

/I got my gear on... flame away...

327 gregg  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:49:27am

re: #301 Rancher

Not that the unions aren't a big chunk of the need for bailouts among the big 3 but it's kinda hard for a Japanese, German or Korean automaker to ask the US for money.
Rustler

I know it's a bit different, but Ford and GM asked the Swedish government for a bailout yesterday (for their Volvo and Saab brands).

328 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:50:53am

re: #325 Sharmuta

They already say that.

It must suck to be they.

329 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:51:28am

re: #326 USCMSNE


Simply this:

Dan Quayle=conservative=pure evil.
barry obama=liberal=sugar & spice and everything nice.

330 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:52:20am

re: #326 USCMSNE

Dan Quayle was a decent and good man. Sure, he had his gaffes. What was his biggest flap? The Murphy Brown single parent plea? That sure sounded like a speech Bill Cosby made too. Sounded even more like a speech Obama gave this year on missing Dads. Where was the ridicule? Where was the press skewering Obama on the Womans reserved right to raise her own children by herself if she damn well pleased? I heard an interview with him in 2003 after the Iraq issue flared up. I was truly impressed. He laid out the philosophy of GHWB's plan in the 90's for Iraq, where their shortcomings where with it, where there miscalculations where, and stated a concise argument defending the current war. He mentioned about how, at the time, an EOD detachment had just destroyed a cache of VX they found in the desert (the WMD realm is broader than nuclear alone). In a post 9/11 world, in light of all the Hussein regimes atrocities, we, the US, weren't going to stand for it anymore. The same media that propped Obama on his pedastal is the same media that wouldn't characterize Quayle as anything but infantile. It's a shame that he is only going to be remembered for being given a misspelled que card. By the way, anyone care to take a guess as to how that spelling bee kid, the one who was smarter than the VP, is doing now?

/I got my gear on... flame away...

He was a little geeky, just like GHWB, but I also head him speak articulately. Have you seen that You tube video of O late for multiple senate committee meetings and acting like a complete buffoon? Or the video of Joe Biden drunk? They are both completely disgraceful.

331 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:52:40am

re: #324 MandyManners

Is he gonna' swing today?


He just got his fair trial, to be followed in due time by a first class hanging.

332 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:53:35am

re: #331 lifeofthemind

He just got his fair trial, to be followed in due time by a first class hanging.

We wouldn't want the evil fucker to have a second-class hanging.

333 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:53:48am

How is WAB's new ring going to feed my children?

334 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:54:57am

re: #326 USCMSNE

I'll bite, what happened to the boy genius?

335 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:55:31am

re: #328 MandyManners

It must suck to be they.

You know it.

336 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:57:00am

re: #333 rightside

How is WAB's new ring going to feed my children?

Or feed his starving brother? Let me tell you, if you are living on $1 a month - you are starving and malnourished. I bet his ribs show.

Turning your back on your own brother is a sign of bad character - allowing him to starve and live in completely deprivation and squalor - is SADISTIC - and proof of limited functioning conscience.

What would we think of Dan Quayle if he allowed a family member to starve in a shack while he lived in a mansion and bought his wife jewels? Morally bankrupt, or worse, I'd bet.

337 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:59:58am

re: #333 rightside

How is WAB's new ring going to feed my children?

She got a new ring? What kind?

338 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:00:21am

re: #336 DistantThunder

I'm surprised that the entire tribe hasn't shown up to join Auntie in America.

339 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:01:03am

re: #336 DistantThunder

Or feed his starving brother? Let me tell you, if you are living on $1 a month - you are starving and malnourished. I bet his ribs show.

Turning your back on your own brother is a sign of bad character - allowing him to starve and live in completely deprivation and squalor - is SADISTIC - and proof of limited functioning conscience.

What would we think of Dan Quayle if he allowed a family member to starve in a shack while he lived in a mansion and bought his wife jewels? Morally bankrupt, or worse, I'd bet.

His attitude toward his brother reminds me of the quote from Office Space: "It's not that I'm lazy. It's that I just don't care."

340 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:04:29am

re: #337 MandyManners

She got a new ring? What kind?


Malkin has a thread on this, the thing is Rhodium. No chance of BHO getting audited, pity.

341 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:05:01am

re: #336 DistantThunder

Definitely. I've come to the conclusion that barring a miracle, the drive-bys will never give conservatives a fair chance.

The talk of subisidizing them makes me now want to refer to them as Pravda.

342 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:06:09am

Typical narcissistic behavior re: using other people as tools.

[Link: www.laweekly.com...]

343 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:13am

re: #342 MandyManners

Typical narcissistic behavior re: using other people as tools.

[Link: www.laweekly.com...]

What else do you expect from "King Tool."

344 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:21am

re: #337 MandyManners

Rumor of buying her this.

345 3 wood  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:43am

One of the issues related to the Auto industry situation, if I understand their union contracts correctly, is the laid off workers are supposed to be paid just about as much for not working (including benefits) as for working.

That is why the declaration of bankruptcy is so crucial to working out a feasible solution to this. Those contract provisions are simply not affordable. I'm not a lawyer, but the only way to do that during the life of the contract (unless the Unions are willing to waive those provisions, which I doubt) is to declare bankruptcy and get those contracts canceled.

346 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:54am

re: #341 rightside

Definitely. I've come to the conclusion that barring a miracle, the drive-bys will never give conservatives a fair chance.

Same the whole world over unfortunately.

347 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:09:42am

re: #340 lifeofthemind

Malkin has a thread on this, the thing is Rhodium. No chance of BHO getting audited, pity.

I don't see a lot wrong with that. It's HER money, too, after all.

Besides, doesn't she deserve a pretty bauble for stifling herself for months?

348 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:10:29am

re: #343 Wyatt Earp

What else do you expect from "King Tool."

I'm gonna' be keeping my eye on his narcissism in the years to come. Let's hope it's just four years.

349 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:11:28am

re: #344 rightside

Rumor of buying her this.

Oh, that is pretty.

350 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:12:36am

Gotta' go.

351 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:12:42am

re: #344 rightside
Someones responce to the ring from that page

He has to spend all the extra campaign money on something. At least it gets some money back into the economy.

But Rhodium is mined in South Africa and its being made in Italy not really helping the American Economy.

352 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:13:21am

re: #351 Rancher

Someones responce to the ring from that page


But Rhodium is mined in South Africa and its being made in Italy not really helping the American Economy.

And if it did help the economy, he wouldn't be interested.

353 syncopation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:13:24am

A moving remembrance for Rivky and Gabi Holtzberg, Chabad of Mumbai:
My Heroic Friends Rivky and Gabi Holtzberg

...I want the world to know who Rivky and Gabi Holtzberg were in life and to tell you what I witnessed of their accomplishments in their brief 27 and 29 years on earth. While I am devastated by their death, I am thankful that my life and so many others were touched by their purity, friendship and spirit.

354 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:01am

re: #346 Crux Australis

I am starting to learn that more and more. Being able to speak with other conservatives around the globe has been an awesome experience.

355 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:07am

re: #323 DistantThunder

Yeah, be a church that hates america and portrays white citizens as evil - in full-throated voice, from the pulpit and recorded for posterity - no problem.

It really is an outrage that BHO got away with saying that in 20 years, he never heard any of Rev Wrights racist, anti-Semetic or anti-American rants. It is childish to support that reasoning.

356 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:09am

re: #349 MandyManners

Oh, that is pretty.

I think he should spread the wealth and give one to every woman in the country. After all, it is not fair that he can afford that when some people have to settle for cubic zirconia. //

357 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:40am

Its about time for us to do something about these pirates now but we will have to wait til CBBHO is in office or it will be seen as just another of Bush's overreaching acts into the business of other nations.

358 gregg  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:15:28am

re: #345 3 wood

One of the issues related to the Auto industry situation, if I understand their union contracts correctly, is the laid off workers are supposed to be paid just about as much for not working (including benefits) as for working.

That is why the declaration of bankruptcy is so crucial to working out a feasible solution to this. Those contract provisions are simply not affordable. I'm not a lawyer, but the only way to do that during the life of the contract (unless the Unions are willing to waive those provisions, which I doubt) is to declare bankruptcy and get those contracts canceled.

The UAW keeps making noise about how new hires will be paid considerably less under the new contract. Sounds good, but when in the foreseeable future will they have any new hires? I suspect they will be cutting jobs for awhile and then there will be a hiring freeze.

If they actually start growing at some point in the future, don't the laid off workers get called back before they hire new workers? If that's the case, does anyone know if recalled workers would start at the "new hire" pay rate, or do come back with some seniority and a higher rate?

359 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:16:38am

re: #347 MandyManners

I don't see a lot wrong with that. It's HER money, too, after all.

Besides, doesn't she deserve a pretty bauble for stifling herself for months?

Their finances do not pass the smell test to me. Her salary doubling after he arranged a grant from the taxpayer, his money based on book sales, that might have been used to cover a large cash infusion from Soros for books that were wholesaled off. I think they are old fashioned Chicago crooks and if a good prosecutor followed the money they'd be in jail.

360 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:16:44am

re: #357 Rancher

Its about time for us to do something about these pirates now but we will have to wait til CBBHO is in office or it will be seen as just another of Bush's overreaching acts into the business of other nations.

Do you think Obama will rush to action? Somehow, I doubt it. Unless "action" is akin to "talking things through."

361 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:17:06am

re: #358 gregg

I beleive they come back with the same seniority/paygrade as they left under. But then they have to do actual work for only a small amount more cash.

362 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:18:00am

re: #359 lifeofthemind

Their finances do not pass the smell test to me. Her salary doubling after he arranged a grant from the taxpayer, his money based on book sales, that might have been used to cover a large cash infusion from Soros for books that were wholesaled off. I think they are old fashioned Chicago crooks and if a good prosecutor followed the money they'd be in jail.

Not to mention all of the questionable "campaign donations" they received from overseas. Something stinks.

363 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:18:12am

re: #360 Wyatt Earp
I shoulda been clearer we need to do something now before he's elected when nothing will be done. But we won't be able to cause it will be seen only as Bush's meddling sorry.
Ruslter

364 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:19:07am

re: #351 Rancher


Wasn't there a movie with Don Cheadle about the diamond mining in S Africa, blood diamond or something...

How dare he buy something that an African might have died for to earn his $1 per month!

This is outrageous!

365 Crusty  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:19:23am

re: #246 NYCHardhat

Good morning. Hope you all have a wonderful day making money.

Work harder...people on welfare are depending on you!

366 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:19:43am

re: #362 Wyatt Earp

Not to mention all of the questionable "campaign donations" they received from overseas. Something stinks.

They used prepaid credit cards. No doubt all kinds of illegal stuff, but will never be traced.

367 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:20:00am

re: #363 Rancher

I shoulda been clearer we need to do something now before he's elected when nothing will be done. But we won't be able to cause it will be seen only as Bush's meddling sorry.
Ruslter

Oh, my bad. it's early, and I missed your point. You are absolutely correct, though.

368 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:21:28am

re: #366 opnion

They used prepaid credit cards. No doubt all kinds of illegal stuff, but will never be traced.

Because the media will never ask any questions.

369 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:23:12am

Good morning Lizards......

370 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:23:14am

re: #364 rightside

Yeah Blood Diamond is the movie title its about African Conflict(or blood diamonds) mostly mined in the congo basin and sold to support the numerous warlords in their individual bids for power and war against each other. Blood diamonds are illegal in the US unfortuneatly its very difficult to figure out where a stone came from once its been cut. The most cost effective method of IDing said diamonds requires uncut stones so they can test the surface for sulfur and other trace elements to show the mined location. This process wont work once the gem is cut tho since all the surface contaminant are removed in the cutting process. Other methods of testing involing lasers etc are far more expensive and not often employed.

371 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:23:26am

Okay, it's official: I'm being a bum this morning. I simply am not going to drive in on ice covered roads and test my patience with insane drivers.

372 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:23:34am

re: #362 Wyatt Earp

Not to mention all of the questionable "campaign donations" they received from overseas. Something stinks.

The kicker is the Courts claiming that citizens don't have standing to question his eligibility. At least in a Scottish law system any citizen can bring an action. My hope is that some prosecutor in Texas makes up for the moonbat lefty who went after Cheney by empaneling a Grand Jury to dig into BHO's money trail.

373 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:24:15am

re: #367 Wyatt Earp

Actually its early but late for me and I truncated my own idea leaving out half the first sentence. Had said it in my head but never typed it out.
Rustler

374 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:24:39am

re: #371 vxbush

Okay, it's official: I'm being a bum this morning. I simply am not going to drive in on ice covered roads and test my patience with insane drivers.

Godd morning vxbushbum.... ;)

375 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:25:01am

re: #368 Wyatt Earp

Because the media will never ask any questions.

Obama will be judged by different Standards. Richard Cohen writing for WaPo sydication last week said that Obama will govern from neither the Right or Center but 'Above it all." He was serious.

376 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:25:15am

re: #372 lifeofthemind

The kicker is the Courts claiming that citizens don't have standing to question his eligibility. At least in a Scottish law system any citizen can bring an action. My hope is that some prosecutor in Texas makes up for the moonbat lefty who went after Cheney by empaneling a Grand Jury to dig into BHO's money trail.

How frustrated we all are, seeing a candidate buy their way into the presidency, and yet we have little recourse to do much about it. I really don't want to wait for the first scandal to break in his administration.

377 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:25:19am

re: #373 Rancher

Actually its early but late for me and I truncated my own idea leaving out half the first sentence. Had said it in my head but never typed it out.
Rustler

Ya done rustled yer own cattle er thoughts eh... ;)

378 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:25:59am

re: #377 doriangrey
zackly

379 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:26:49am

re: #378 Rancher

zackly

Tis a truly bad economy when a man is forced to rustle his own cattle.... ;p

380 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:26:52am

re: #369 doriangrey

Morning Dorian.

381 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:26:56am

re: #374 doriangrey

Godd morning vxbushbum.... ;)

Heh. I can see it now: a new line of VX models:

VXBush
VXBold (extra caffeine days)
VXBum (for today, as you said)
VXBore (for when no one wants to listen to me)
VXBent (for bad arthritic days)

382 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:27:20am

re: #369 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards......

*yawn* Mornin' dorian...do you have any of that high-test coffee of yours this a.m.?

383 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:27:35am

re: #380 Ford_Prefect

Morning Dorian.

Morning Ford... Do you know where your towel is?

384 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:28:05am

re: #376 vxbush

How frustrated we all are, seeing a candidate buy their way into the presidency, and yet we have little recourse to do much about it. I really don't want to wait for the first scandal to break in his administration.

Depends what you mean by scandal. American soldiers standing guard outside Hamas launching sites in Gaza being used to kill Jews in Israel will happen under his administration.

385 Crusty  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:28:30am

re: #366 opnion

They used prepaid credit cards. No doubt all kinds of illegal stuff, but will never be traced.

When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.

Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.

386 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:28:30am

re: #383 doriangrey

Morning Ford... Do you know where your towel is?

Always.

387 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:28:35am

Doesn't Al "Environment" Gore have this same problem

388 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:29:17am

re: #379 doriangrey

Nah the insurance payout is 2x what they worth in todays market :P

389 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:29:23am

re: #382 scottishbuzzsaw

*yawn* Mornin' dorian...do you have any of that high-test coffee of yours this a.m.?

Yes, why yes I do... However, past experience here has led my to require that you sign a disclaimer form agreeing that I am not responsible for damage to any computer hardware that might be damaged should you spill any of said coffee.... ;)

390 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:29:50am

re: #376 vxbush

How frustrated we all are, seeing a candidate buy their way into the presidency, and yet we have little recourse to do much about it. I really don't want to wait for the first scandal to break in his administration.

Wonder if the Palestinian phone bank staff will be at the Inauguration.
If they are there I hope that there are no explosions.

391 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:25am

re: #372 lifeofthemind

The kicker is the Courts claiming that citizens don't have standing to question his eligibility. At least in a Scottish law system any citizen can bring an action. My hope is that some prosecutor in Texas makes up for the moonbat lefty who went after Cheney by empaneling a Grand Jury to dig into BHO's money trail.

No one has standing to question The One! :)

392 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:25am

re: #389 doriangrey

Yes, why yes I do... However, past experience here has led my to require that you sign a disclaimer form agreeing that I am not responsible for damage to any computer hardware that might be damaged should you spill any of said coffee.... ;)

Okey dokey...just pour, my friend, pour...

393 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:45am

re: #384 lifeofthemind Kinda like they use UN ambulances as transportation to and from attacks and fly the Hezbollah flag above the UN flag at some UN stations.

394 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:46am

re: #384 lifeofthemind

Depends what you mean by scandal. American soldiers standing guard outside Hamas launching sites in Gaza being used to kill Jews in Israel will happen under his administration.

While I do expect something from Obama that will leave Israel to defend itself and may in fact support the Palestinian "cause," I mean a scandal that everyone would agree (or everyone except moonbats) will agree is scandalous and involve money. He's used to the way Chicago works. Washington works almost that way, but I still consider it not quite as bad. And that means that when he starts using Chicago tactics, someone will chirp up.

395 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:56am

re: #392 scottishbuzzsaw

Okey dokey...just pour, my friend, pour...

You got it sweetheart..... ;)

396 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:15am

Morning perv dorian

397 legalpad  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:27am

re: #385 Crusty

When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.

Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.

This is where we have been for a few years. The media needs to be changed. They've taken over the democratic process.

398 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:30am

re: #395 doriangrey

You got it sweetheart..... ;)

Oh, did I mention that that disclaimer also cover the enamel on your teeth? :O

399 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:51am

re: #395 doriangrey

You got it sweetheart..... ;)

Now, if you had something that also included a strong analgesic, I'd go for that. But in a tea variety.

400 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:53am

re: #385 Crusty

When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.

Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.


Yeah, look at Minnesota, Franken is poised to try to steal the electtion through litigation.
The Dems have never gotten over the Florida recount. Even the NY Times went down there & declared Bush the winner. It doesn't matter they still insist that it was stolen.

401 reine.de.tout  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:54am

re: #337 MandyManners

She got a new ring? What kind?

Michelle's Ring Thing

402 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:15am

Has anyone heard from vbspurs?

403 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:21am

re: #397 legalpad

This is where we have been for a few years. The media needs to be changed. They've taken over the democratic process.

So when are we creating the new country of Lizardia?

404 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:25am

re: #396 rightside

Morning perv dorian

Okay, what have I missed?

405 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:31am

re: #396 rightside

Morning perv dorian

Morning.... What? Their are scantly clad 19 year old girls in this thread? where.... where?

406 Irish Rose  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:50am

Good morning, lizards.
A cold and snowy day along the Lake Michigan shoreline.

I've been down for the last 6 days with illness, finally crawling back in to play catch up.

Working my way through the Jindal thread now... yeesh.

407 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:00am

GDI another time i fail at embedding a link UN Ambulance

408 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:06am

re: #401 reine.de.tout

Michelle's Ring Thing

Oh, brother. Selfishness run amok. Now he has to pay off his wife, too!

409 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:40am

re: #399 vxbush

Now, if you had something that also included a strong analgesic, I'd go for that. But in a tea variety.

Just my Earl Gray, but I never break that out before 5pm.....

410 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:58am

re: #404 scottishbuzzsaw


Yesterdays overnight thread, our suave playa, was hitting on a Lizardettes 19yo daughter LOL

411 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:13am

re: #409 doriangrey

Just my Earl Gray, but I never break that out before 5pm.....

And any caffeine I have must be before 3pm or else I stay awake all night. Especially now; this stupid thyroid thing is mucking up my sleep schedule but good.

412 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:14am

re: #385 Crusty

When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.

Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.

I will be very curious to see what happens in four years. It seems to me that at least some of the excitement surrounding Obama this time around will likely have worn off. Some people will become disenchanted by his actions, as we are seeing with some of his appointments. And I think that the huge turnout this time around from the black community will be considerably less next time. People were understandably excited about voting for a viable black candidate for the first time in their lives. That novelty will be gone in four years. I think it will be very interesting to see what happens.

413 legalpad  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:25am

re: #403 vxbush

So when are we creating the new country of Lizardia?

Good idea! I will begin plotting immediately -

414 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:28am

re: #394 vxbush

While I do expect something from Obama that will leave Israel to defend itself and may in fact support the Palestinian "cause," I mean a scandal that everyone would agree (or everyone except moonbats) will agree is scandalous and involve money. He's used to the way Chicago works. Washington works almost that way, but I still consider it not quite as bad. And that means that when he starts using Chicago tactics, someone will chirp up.


There will be some friction from civil service bureaucrats who agree ideologically but don't want to take orders from anybody, possibly a press moment from a big footed black crony from Chicago coming up against a gay administrator in some department. The press will smother most of it.

415 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:37am

re: #410 rightside

Yesterdays overnight thread, our suave playa, was hitting on a Lizardettes 19yo daughter LOL

Okay.....
/hiding 23-year-old in the back room

416 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:00am

re: #401 reine.de.tout

Michelle's Ring Thing

"It don't mean a thing if you ain't got that bling, dowap, dowap, dowap."

417 reine.de.tout  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:24am

re: #408 vxbush

Oh, brother. Selfishness run amok. Now he has to pay off his wife, too!

It's just bad taste, unseemly, to be buying this ring in celebration, I guess, of Obama's "elevation" to the presidency, at a time when so many Americans are facing lay-offs, loss of homes, and general hard times.

He and WAB just don't get it.

418 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:26am

re: #415 vxbush

Okay.....
/hiding 23-year-old in the back room

Hey, that's not nice.... Let the poor child come out to play..... ;)

419 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:40am

re: #410 rightside

Yesterdays overnight thread, our suave playa, was hitting on a Lizardettes 19yo daughter LOL

Oh dear...dorian, careful there or I'll have to pour this coffee in your...lap.

420 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:55am

re: #414 lifeofthemind

There will be some friction from civil service bureaucrats who agree ideologically but don't want to take orders from anybody, possibly a press moment from a big footed black crony from Chicago coming up against a gay administrator in some department. The press will smother most of it.

Perhaps. My crystal ball doesn't work beyond lunchtime, so I make no predictions. But something will happen, methinks.

421 DaddyG  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:06am

re: #23 gmsc

Activists Seek Revocation of Tax Exempt Status of Churches That Supported Prop 8


Trivia: When Joseph Smith formed the Mormon Church, the US government repeatedly tried to prosecute them for polygamy, while Joseph Smith kept claiming freedom of religion.

Finally, the US government threatened to revoke the Mormon Church's tax-exempt status. Shortly after that, Joseph Smith reported having a vision that God told him polygamy was wrong.

It's a miracle!

You have the general idea, but...

Joseph Smith was dead decades before the issue of polygamy became a federal or legal issue. It was Brigham Young who fought the US government and John Taylor (Brigham's successor) who revoked the practice of it. Some historical detail:

The Saints were opposed in Illinois for several factors including their abolitionist stance and their tendency to vote in blocks fueled by large amounts if immigrants from Europe. They gained a great deal of power in Western Illinois in a short period of time and it made some their neighbors uneasy. Joseph Smith was killed by a mob in retaliation for destroying the printing press of polygamy opponents. After Joseph Smith was murdered by the mob the state of Illinois disarmed the Saints and Missouri put out an extermination order.

Under the leadership of Brigham Young the saints left their property and had a mass exodus to the Utah territory. There Brigham fought the US government over the right to practice their religion as they saw fit including self determination as a territory and polygamy (or more properly polygyny - one husband with multiple wives).

Several decades later and after Brigham's death John Taylor was appointed as president of the LDS Church. The Saints desired statehood and after losing several supreme court cases on the issue of polygamy the federal government threatened to seize all of the property that the church held, imprison all of the men who practiced polygamy and imprison all church leaders regardless of their personal practice (much more severe than revoking tax exempt status). At that point John Taylor received a revelation that it was preferable the Saints be free to practice their faith minus plural marriage in order to obey the law of the land, than it would be to be completely disenfranchised to the point of their destruction.

The main body of the Saints accepted the revelation and by 1900 the practice was ended and those who would not stop were excommunicated. Small splinter groups that could not give up polygamy or argued against John Taylor's authority to make the decision to stop broke off and formed the origins of groups like the Fundamental LDS who practice polygyny today in defiance of the law.

An interesting historical note - the LDS doctrine that led to polygyny was not revoked by John Taylor - but the practice of that portion of the doctrine was suspended indefinitely.

As Brigham said, "we are a practical people".

422 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:10am

re: #415 vxbush

Okay.....
/hiding 23-year-old in the back room

perks up

423 razorbacker  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:27am

Sincere apology if already posted.

Muslim graveyard refuses to bury terrorists in Mumbai

A Muslim graveyard in the heart of Mumbai has broken with Islamic tradition and refused to bury the bodies of nine terrorists who were killed during the attack on India's financial capital.

The influential Muslim Jama Masjid Trust, which runs the 7.5-acre Badakabrastan graveyard, said it would not bury the gunmen because they were not true followers of Islam.

Hanif Nalkhande, a spokesman for the trust, said: "People who committed this heinous crime cannot be called Muslim. Islam does not permit this sort of barbaric crime."...

Unclaimed bodies thought to be Muslim are traditionally given to the nearest Islamic graveyard for burial after three days but that now looks impossible in Mumbai.

There are seven other Muslim graveyards in Mumbai, but the Jama Masjid's influence means none of the others are likely to accept the bodies....

Jain Sirmukadam, a senior police inspector, said: "The gunmen must be buried because we are bound to see that their last rites are performed according to the religion they follow. We have heard the trust's decision. We are considering what to do now."

I see this as a positive sign.

Were I not so fond of hogs, I'd recommend that they be fed to hogs and the resultant dung burned, but I like hogs. So I don't recommend that.

424 Irish Rose  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:39am

re: #408 vxbush

Oh, brother. Selfishness run amok. Now he has to pay off his wife, too!

It's her compensation for being forced to keep her anti-American, elitist yap shut on the campaign trail.

425 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:43am

re: #415 vxbush


It wasn't directly, but we were giving him some needling anyway!

426 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:45am

re: #406 Irish Rose

Morning Rose. I must have missed that one. I will have to go check it out.

427 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:38:17am

re: #417 reine.de.tout

It's just bad taste, unseemly, to be buying this ring in celebration, I guess, of Obama's "elevation" to the presidency, at a time when so many Americans are facing lay-offs, loss of homes, and general hard times.

He and WAB just don't get it.

No. They really have no clue, and this action simply speaks to them never being "regular" folks. I wish the press would have a field day with this and make them return the ring. Or better yet, return the ring and donate the money to a real charity instead of Wright's church.

428 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:38:35am

re: #424 Irish Rose

It's her compensation for being forced to keep her anti-American, elitist yap shut on the campaign trail.

My first thought, too.

Hope you're feeling better soon, Rose...

429 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:38:43am

re: #419 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh dear...dorian, careful there or I'll have to pour this coffee in your...lap.

Hey now... I am after all a single, never married, kind of guy....

430 Harry Tuttle  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:39:44am

re: #417 reine.de.tout

It's just bad taste, unseemly, to be buying this ring in celebration, I guess, of Obama's "elevation" to the presidency, at a time when so many Americans are facing lay-offs, loss of homes, and general hard times.

He and WAB just don't get it.

It seems very royal of him to me.

431 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:40:16am

re: #415 vxbush

Just keep her away from Dorian his hogging all the Lizardettes daughters.

432 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:40:32am

re: #424 Irish Rose

It's her compensation for being forced to keep her anti-American, elitist yap shut on the campaign trail.

DING DING! Give that gal a cup of coffee for being right.

433 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:40:57am

re: #422 lifeofthemind

perks up

Oh, brother; how am I going to explain to her that there are lizards interested.....

434 Karridine  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:41:42am

re: #385 Crusty

When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.

Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.

Perhaps... there's still a rational way to divert this disaster, Crusty...

435 jcbunga  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:42:12am

"Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in every Roman Catholic school, Church leaders have said."

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

I wish I was making this up.

436 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:42:29am

re: #433 vxbush

Oh, brother; how am I going to explain to her that there are lizards interested.....


Lizard no speakum with forked tongue.

I have very high standards

437 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:43:19am

Haha the one Liberal i was on good terms with in College was a Journalism major i used to always ask her got any conservative in ya, then would you like some. Old joke but funny people used to hear us and goggle.

438 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:43:42am

re: #435 jcbunga

Uncredible.

439 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:43:46am

re: #436 lifeofthemind

Lizard no speakum with forked tongue.

I have very high standards

Hey, I've told her about LGF. If she wants to get on, she knows how. She's just not into [all] you [lizards]. :-)

440 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:43:59am

re: #433 vxbush

Oh, brother; how am I going to explain to her that there are lizards interested.....

Better Lizards then Kos Kids.

441 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:44:32am

re: #440 Ford_Prefect

Better Lizards then Kos Kids.

True, true....

442 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:44:41am

re: #440 Ford_Prefect

Better Lizards then Kos Kids.

Truer words were never posted.... ;)

443 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:45:37am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Spare O' Lake, Blue Canuck et al

I'm absolutely LIVID this morning over the latest turn of events. It's bad enough the Whiney Cry-Baby Dion collaborated with Taliban Jack and the vile Separatists for a coup d'etat, it's quite another to have our union thugs at my building's entrances handing out fliers to the sheeple to support this "coalition". I crumpled mine right in her face, told her she was a bloody idiot dressed up in a stupid-suit and wouldn't she rather go do something more productive, like oh-I-don't-know - actually WORK for a living instead of hassling taxpayers?

Somebody pass the Cranky Flakes - I'M GONNA NEED 'EM!

444 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:46:16am

re: #439 vxbush

Hey, I've told her about LGF. If she wants to get on, she knows how. She's just not into [all] you [lizards]. :-)

ROTFLMAO.... Just tell her to choose a nic that suggests she might be a crusty old ranch hand.... ;p

445 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:46:29am

re: #443 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Spare O' Lake, Blue Canuck et al

I'm absolutely LIVID this morning over the latest turn of events. It's bad enough the Whiney Cry-Baby Dion collaborated with Taliban Jack and the vile Separatists for a coup d'etat, it's quite another to have our union thugs at my building's entrances handing out fliers to the sheeple to support this "coalition". I crumpled mine right in her face, told her she was a bloody idiot dressed up in a stupid-suit and wouldn't she rather go do something more productive, like oh-I-don't-know - actually WORK for a living instead of hassling taxpayers?

Somebody pass the Cranky Flakes - I'M GONNA NEED 'EM!

Okay, so you're actually singing in a minor key today. Got it.
/pulls out the Russian music

446 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:46:46am

re: #440 Ford_Prefect

Better Lizards then Kos Kids.


Not that Kos tongues are forked, it's where they have been.

later gators

447 gregg  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:47:31am
MUMBAI - Ajmal Amir Kasab, the sole surviving member of the 10-man team of Pakistani gunmen that left hundreds dead or wounded after a bloody three day rampage in Mumbai, today blamed the mayhem on an "email mixup" that left him and his colleagues unaware that Barack Obama had won election as President of the United States.

"What? Oh bloody hell, now you tell me," said Kasab, as he was led away in handcuffs by Indian security forces.

Kasab, 21, apologized to Indian President Pratibha Patil, explaining that no one in his group had known about the recent U.S. election results.

"Boy, talk about having egg on the face," said a visibly embarrassed Kasab. "If we knew Bush was on his way out, obviously we would have called off the crazy random baby-shootings and martyrdom stuff, and signed on with the Peace Corps or Habitat for Humanity. At this point I guess all I can say is 'my bad.'"

Go to Iowahawk to read it all.

448 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:47:47am

re: #443 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Spare O' Lake, Blue Canuck et al

I'm absolutely LIVID this morning over the latest turn of events. It's bad enough the Whiney Cry-Baby Dion collaborated with Taliban Jack and the vile Separatists for a coup d'etat, it's quite another to have our union thugs at my building's entrances handing out fliers to the sheeple to support this "coalition". I crumpled mine right in her face, told her she was a bloody idiot dressed up in a stupid-suit and wouldn't she rather go do something more productive, like oh-I-don't-know - actually WORK for a living instead of hassling taxpayers?

Somebody pass the Cranky Flakes - I'M GONNA NEED 'EM!

Well done, Miss Trixie! Now take a deep breath...and...relax...

449 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:48:00am

re: #443 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Somebody pass the Cranky Flakes - I'M GONNA NEED 'EM!


ROTFLMAO..... Good morning Miss Trixie.... You could eat 100 boxes of Cranky Flakes in one sitting and still be sweeter than virgin honey.... ;)

450 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:48:19am

re: #444 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.... Just tell her to choose a nic that suggests she might be a crusty old ranch hand.... ;p

That won't work. If she ever gets on, she'll find her own nic. After all, she's old enough she won't take my suggestions now!

451 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:49:06am

re: #447 gregg

Go to Iowahawk to read it all.

Priceless.

452 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:49:23am

re: #450 vxbush

That won't work. If she ever gets on, she'll find her own nic. After all, she's old enough she won't take my suggestions now!

Heh heh heh.... Good, good, then when you warn her about me she wont pay you no mind..... ;p

453 legalpad  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:49:41am
I crumpled mine right in her face

- OK - Never seen this side of you - - - great!

et al

454 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:50:03am

re: #452 doriangrey

Heh heh heh.... Good, good, then when you warn her about me she wont pay you no mind..... ;p

Oh, boy. Moving on.....where's that ibuprofen bottle?

455 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:50:33am

re: #452 doriangrey

Heh heh heh.... Good, good, then when you warn her about me she wont pay you no mind..... ;p

Oh dorian...tsk tsk.

456 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:51:27am

re: #454 vxbush

Oh, boy. Moving on.....where's that ibuprofen bottle?

Medicine cabinet, second shelf, right next to the..... er , well you'll find it.... ;p

457 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:52:01am

re: #455 scottishbuzzsaw

Now you see what I mean?

458 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:53:07am

re: #455 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh dorian...tsk tsk.

Hey now.... You got your little scottishbuzzsaws running around under foot, and vxbush does too, so why cant I want a few of my own little doriangreys scampering round?

459 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:53:16am

re: #454 vxbush

Oh, boy. Moving on.....where's that ibuprofen bottle?

Try telling how great Dorian is and how happy it would make you. That should guarantee that she runs in the other direction.

460 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:53:30am

re: #457 rightside

Now you see what I mean?

Yes indeed...I would warn him about the massive protective nature of Lizards for their young, but...

461 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:53:51am

Good morning all!

Much better today... wife's finger goes to the doc this afternoon, we are hoping for good news and (importantly) a smaller bandage (the current one is driving her nuts).

Internet connection seems as slow as dial up today, I'll try to keep up.

Hi Scottish, Dorian, and FBV (I'm sure he's hiding under the rocks here someplace)!

462 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:54:47am

re: #461 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Good morning all!

Much better today... wife's finger goes to the doc this afternoon, we are hoping for good news and (importantly) a smaller bandage (the current one is driving her nuts).

Internet connection seems as slow as dial up today, I'll try to keep up.

Hi Scottish, Dorian, and FBV (I'm sure he's hiding under the rocks here someplace)!

Mornin' Vet! What happened to your wife's finger?!

463 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:55:04am

re: #461 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Good morning all!

Much better today... wife's finger goes to the doc this afternoon, we are hoping for good news and (importantly) a smaller bandage (the current one is driving her nuts).

Internet connection seems as slow as dial up today, I'll try to keep up.

Hi Scottish, Dorian, and FBV (I'm sure he's hiding under the rocks here someplace)!

ROTFLMAO.... I seriously doubt there are any rock large enough for FBV to hid under..... ;p

464 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:56:03am

re: #462 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' Vet! What happened to your wife's finger?!

Tis a tawdry tale it tis..... :O

465 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:56:30am

re: #462 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' Vet! What happened to your wife's finger?!

Short version: Crushed with a small decapitation via a wood splitter machine the day after Thanksgiving. The end sliced off (flesh only), bone broken in multiple places.

466 rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:56:58am

re: #458 doriangrey We are purely looking out for our own interests and sanity the world doesn't need any more Supercillious rockstars roaming the streets :P

467 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:57:18am

re: #463 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.... I seriously doubt there are any rock large enough for FBV to hid under..... ;p

OK, several rocks.

468 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:57:53am

re: #465 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Short version: Crushed with a small decapitation via a wood splitter machine the day after Thanksgiving. The end sliced off (flesh only), bone broken in multiple places.

Oh, ouch! So sorry to hear that...may she heal quickly.

469 rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:58:00am

re: #461 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) He just painted himself grey and he is the rock.

470 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:58:05am

re: #466 rancher

We are purely looking out for our own interests and sanity the world doesn't need any more Supercillious rockstars roaming the streets :P

RACIST........................................

471 rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:58:46am

Nay im a musicianist.

472 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:59:18am

re: #469 rancher

He just painted himself grey and he is the rock.

*spew*...now that wasn't nice...DORIAN! My keyboard is melting!

473 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:59:21am

re: #468 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh, ouch! So sorry to hear that...may she heal quickly.

We all wish for that... she's going slowly nuts not being able to run around franically playing wonderwoman doing far more than she really should.

Let's just say relaxing makes her tense.

474 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:59:29am

re: #471 rancher

Nay im a musicianist.

You are discriminating against me and I demand reparations.....

475 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:00:15am

Panel warns of biological attack by 2013

Al-Qaeda remains the only terrorist group judged to be actively intent on conducting a nuclear attack against the United States, the report notes. It is not yet capable of building such a weapon and has yet to obtain one. But that could change if a nuclear weapons engineer or scientist were recruited to al-Qaeda's cause, the report warns

I thought the world loved us now that Bambi's in charge...

476 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:00:25am

re: #472 scottishbuzzsaw

*spew*...now that wasn't nice...DORIAN! My keyboard is melting!

477 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:00:36am

re: #470 doriangrey

Supercillious? Way too early for that vocabulary word! :)

478 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:01:19am

re: #456 doriangrey

Medicine cabinet, second shelf, right next to the..... er , well you'll find it.... ;p

Oh, my. And you leave this out in the open?

479 rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:01:21am

Then again we really don't need a dylusional wanna be messiah in the white house with his legion of psychophantic followers messing up the country and we got it. so have at it Dorian.

480 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:01:26am

re: #474 doriangrey

You are discriminating against me and I demand reparations.....

Pretty soon you'll be demanding your people have their own schools.

481 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:01:36am

re: #473 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Let's just say relaxing makes her tense.

LOL...I know the type..."She makes coffee nervous."

/can't remember the film...Parker Posey's character...

482 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:01:51am

re: #459 Ford_Prefect

Try telling how great Dorian is and how happy it would make you. That should guarantee that she runs in the other direction.

HA! Absolutely.

483 rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:02:23am

re: #472 scottishbuzzsaw
Haha Dorian gets blamed for my comments.
Rustler

484 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:02:38am

re: #478 vxbush

Oh, my. And you leave this out in the open?

If by out in the open you mean locked in the medicine cabinet, well yea....

485 3 wood  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:02:39am

re: #358 gregg

If they actually start growing at some point in the future, don't the laid off workers get called back before they hire new workers? If that's the case, does anyone know if recalled workers would start at the "new hire" pay rate, or do come back with some seniority and a higher rate?

I don;t know what their particular contract holds, but every other one I've ever seen requires that called back workers start at their previous rate of pay.

That provisions is usually intended to keep management from just laying everyone off and then hiring them back at a much lower rate of pay to get around negotiated pay schedules and seniority.

486 Crusty  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:02:48am

re: #444 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.... Just tell her to choose a nic that suggests she might be a crusty old ranch hand.... ;p

Like mine!

487 rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:03:13am

re: #477 Wyatt Earp
Sucercillious-to have a high opinion of one's self basically

488 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:03:46am

re: #483 rancher

Haha Dorian gets blamed for my comments.
Rustler

Naw, just for providing the coffee which, when spewed, destroys all things...

489 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:03:54am

re: #487 rancher

Sucercillious-to have a high opinion of one's self basically

Let's see someone post that at Kos!

490 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:04:09am

Gonna take scotti's advise and cool down before I hoit meself.

Oh, yeah - {realwest} *smoochie-smooch-smooch*

BBL.

491 rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:04:10am

Psychophant- one who blindly follows basically

492 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:04:22am

3 Wood,

Which way is the Market Rocket facing on the Launch Pad? Up or down?

/Damn sign-challenged Financial Engineers.

493 rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:04:28am

re: #488 scottishbuzzsaw
ahh

494 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:04:41am

re: #483 rancher

Haha Dorian gets blamed for my comments.
Rustler

Not your comment, she's drinking my special high test coffee, when she spit it out it melted her keyboard.... But I made her sign a disclaimer saying I wasnt responsible for any damaged computer hardware if the coffee came in contact with it....

495 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:04:52am

Good morning all y'all from a COLD (28 degrees, going all the way up to 46 degrees; for reference Bangor Maine is at 36 degrees now!) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?
Has anyone reported that an Iraq jury has found "Chemical Ali" (Ali Hassan al-Majid, first cousin of Saddam) guilty of crimes against humanity and has sentenced him to death by hanging?

496 reine.de.tout  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:05:13am

re: #443 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Spare O' Lake, Blue Canuck et al

I'm absolutely LIVID this morning over the latest turn of events. It's bad enough the Whiney Cry-Baby Dion collaborated with Taliban Jack and the vile Separatists for a coup d'etat, it's quite another to have our union thugs at my building's entrances handing out fliers to the sheeple to support this "coalition". I crumpled mine right in her face, told her she was a bloody idiot dressed up in a stupid-suit and wouldn't she rather go do something more productive, like oh-I-don't-know - actually WORK for a living instead of hassling taxpayers?

Somebody pass the Cranky Flakes - I'M GONNA NEED 'EM!

My kinda gal!
Good for you.

497 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:05:43am

Morning Real!

23 here, going up to, maybe, 34...sunny though.

498 rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:05:46am

re: #495 realwest
Yeah now we are just waiting on the video of him swinging.

499 SlothB77  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:05:50am

there was another attack in india overnight? Bomb blast on a train in northeast india (very far away from mumbai, but still in india).

sweet jebus.

500 kcladderman  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:06:10am

re: #465 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Short version: Crushed with a small decapitation via a wood splitter machine the day after Thanksgiving. The end sliced off (flesh only), bone broken in multiple places.

I got the same king of injury to my finger when I was about 18 loading railroad ties on a semi. Took the tip off and broke the bone. Oh man did that hurt .

501 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:06:11am

re: #494 doriangrey

Not your comment, she's drinking my special high test coffee, when she spit it out it melted her keyboard.... But I made her sign a disclaimer saying I wasnt responsible for any damaged computer hardware if the coffee came in contact with it....

Is that what you were trying to say in #476?

502 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:06:18am

re: #498 rancher

Yeah now we are just waiting on the video of him swinging.

Did they already do it?

503 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:06:28am

re: #484 doriangrey

If by out in the open you mean locked in the medicine cabinet, well yea....

I so want to make a comment about size, but I'm trying to be a lady. And I'm eating breakfast.

504 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:06:31am

re: #490 {Miss Trixie} Wow, hit and run *smooochies* today - well I'm throwing some *smoochies* after ya - don't worry, they'll catch up!

505 rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:07:15am

re: #502 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Don't think so which is why we still waiting.

506 JacksonTn  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:07:20am

Good Morning Lizards ...

Oh how I wish I were in Hawaii today ...it is freezing here in Tennessee ...and I must negotiate pricing with the big stores again today ...tell me again why we must work? ...Oh, that's right so Michelle can get a larger piece of my pie ...

Oh, well, I love this song and it makes me feel I am in Hawaii ...

507 Crusty  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:07:21am

re: #437 Rancher

Haha the one Liberal i was on good terms with in College was a Journalism major i used to always ask her got any conservative in ya, then would you like some. Old joke but funny people used to hear us and goggle.

You'd increase her IQ by 20 points the split second you put your....well, I think you know where this joke is going.

508 razorbacker  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:07:27am

See y'all later. Going to find something useful to do. Or, lacking that, at least something nondestructive.

But before I go, let me leave you with these pithy words of wisdom.

Si hoc legere scis, nimium eruditionis habes.

Them there are words to live by.

509 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:07:34am

Saw three "1-20-09" bumper stickers on my way to work today.
The Dem bumper sticker machine is still in full gear. They sure do know their moonbat.

510 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:07:46am

re: #495 realwest

Good morning all y'all from a COLD (28 degrees, going all the way up to 46 degrees; for reference Bangor Maine is at 36 degrees now!) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?
Has anyone reported that an Iraq jury has found "Chemical Ali" (Ali Hassan al-Majid, first cousin of Saddam) guilty of crimes against humanity and has sentenced him to death by hanging?

Good morning sleepy head... So "Chemical Ali" is going to get to "hang" out with his cousin Saddam eh, well good for him... I'm doing great, except for the it's now time for me to run off to work thing... Hope you are feeling well my friend....

511 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:07:46am

Morning. I'm drawing a blank on which Israeli blogger here posts the "For the umpteenth month in a row, more Palis have killed each other than the IDF..." I'm looking for some research. Thanks a lot.

512 Dasher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:07:48am

re: #7 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I think it's Carville's voice. I don't like his political leanings but he's got a great voice.

That is not what comes to mind with Carville. He stutters like crazy, and I have never really heard anything coherent come from his mouth.

513 RondinellaMamma  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:07:52am

Dan Quayle has suffered greatly because of the negative image created by and fostered by the media. (Shocking, I know, but sometimes...OK...lots of times... the media isn't very nice...or truthful...)

There is actually much to admire about the man:

[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

..and this, too ( I hope I'm not violating LGF protocol by posting from another blog?...) :

[Link: becauseimright-nocomme1.blogspot.com...]

The best reason to admire the man?

He said this:


" I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican."


Dan Quayle 2012

514 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:08:31am

re: #512 Dasher

That is not what comes to mind with Carville. He stutters like crazy, and I have never really heard anything coherent come from his mouth.

And every time I look at him it appears that someone opened the Ark of the Covenant.

515 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:08:52am

re: #512 Dasher

That is not what comes to mind with Carville. He stutters like crazy, and I have never really heard anything coherent come from his mouth.

Sounds like a tobacco auctioneer....

516 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:09:03am

re: #500 kcladderman

I got the same king of injury to my finger when I was about 18 loading railroad ties on a semi. Took the tip off and broke the bone. Oh man did that hurt .

You sound like me... I had a job welding when I was in HS. The steel beam I was going to weld was balanced up on something else when I had to grab something with one hand, holding the beam with the other. Not enough. Beam fell over to the ground. Crushed my ring finger that was still trying to stop it.

517 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:09:07am

re: #501 scottishbuzzsaw

Is that what you were trying to say in #476?

cough cough, you didnt read what you signed.... :O

518 Dasher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:09:10am

re: #515 vxbush

Sounds like a tobacco auctioneer....

Exactly

519 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:09:17am

re: #514 Wyatt Earp

And every time I look at him it appears that someone opened the Ark of the Covenant.

Now that's funny...

520 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:09:49am

re: #517 doriangrey

cough cough, you didnt read what you signed.... :O

LOL...bad habit of mine...have a great day, dorian...

521 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:09:50am

re: #519 scottishbuzzsaw

Now that's funny...

Actually, to give credit where it's due, I saw it on Family Guy once.

522 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:10:17am

re: #503 vxbush

I so want to make a comment about size, but I'm trying to be a lady. And I'm eating breakfast.

Blink.... blink..... I''m sure I have no idea what you are suggesting madam.... ;p

523 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:12:20am

re: #506 JacksonTn
Hey Jackson - this should warm your heart too - I always play this to start my day (except for days when I am too pissed off by the time I get to the computer, like today! LOL!):

524 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:12:33am

rancher

Psychophant- one who blindly follows basically

Psychofart: follows you blindly off an empty elevator ... :P

525 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:12:36am

re: #504 realwest

Mornin' {real}...hope all is well with you.

526 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:13:44am

re: #510 doriangrey
Hi dorian! Bye dorian! Sheesh. Takes my computer forever to get going - and he calls ME sleepyhead?! This computer is falling apart at a greater and greater spead every day!

527 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:14:50am

re: #443 Miss Trixie

Good morning Miss Trixie. Here, have a heaping bowlful. :)

528 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:15:10am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Hey, we're catching up with you!

Population Down Under reaches 21.37 million :-)

AUSTRALIA'S population grew over the past year at its fastest rate in nearly two decades - but NSW is lagging behind every state except Tasmania.

An extra 359,000 people called Australia home in the year to June, the highest growth since 1989. The total population now stands at 21,374,000.

Migration from the UK, New Zealand and South Africa, and a large number of births created the 1.7 per cent growth.

It's getting crowded down here!

529 notutopia  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:16:41am

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
— Dan Quayle

Charles, I have to agree.


1 in 5 US Young Adults Has Personality Disorder, Study Finds
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Good Morning All !
More Coffee please...... So we can all swallow our jagged little pill that cures the ills of our society....

Jagged Little Pill
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

530 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:17:14am

re: #529 notutopia

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
— Dan Quayle

Charles, I have to agree.


1 in 5 US Young Adults Has Personality Disorder, Study Finds
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Good Morning All !
More Coffee please...... So we can all swallow our jagged little pill that cures the ills of our society....

Jagged Little Pill
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

Count me as the 1 in 5! :)

531 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:17:37am
532 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:18:32am

Good morning, Lizards! Gonna be warm (68-73) in Southern California again today.

533 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:19:23am

re: #530 Wyatt Earp

Count me as the 1 in 5! :)

Over on Junk Food Science she reported on a study that said at college campuses, mental illness was seen in 1 out of every 2 students! Yikes!

That's what you get for a liberal arts education.

534 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:19:32am

Dang, I missed her. What I get for getting into the flow of the conversation.

535 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:20:11am

Miss Trixie darls

I've just read about the political situation in Canada and I can understand why you're spitting chips this morning!

An unbelievable attack on democracy in a fellow Commonwealth country

536 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:20:17am

re: #532 SurferDoc

Good morning, Lizards! Gonna be warm (68-73) in Southern California again today.

There's one in every crowd. Grumble.

537 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:20:57am

re: #529 notutopia

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
— Dan Quayle

Charles, I have to agree.


1 in 5 US Young Adults Has Personality Disorder, Study Finds
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Good Morning All !
More Coffee please...... So we can all swallow our jagged little pill that cures the ills of our society....

Jagged Little Pill
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

And then there's the question of ethics, or lack thereof:

[Link: charactercounts.org...]

538 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:21:22am

re: #525 scottishbuzzsaw
Hi {scotti} - Well everything is fine by me except I gotta go see my doc either tomorrow or Thursday, go the drugstore, call Medicare and do battle with them, call Best Buy and REALLY do battle with them, and then find out who makes that stupid product that evil Billy Mays advertises on TV that he uses to "fix" a torn American Flag and really get on their case! And I'm freezing!
So I'm starting my day at about 5,000 rpm! How are you today

539 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:21:26am

re: #533 vxbush

Over on Junk Food Science she reported on a study that said at college campuses, mental illness was seen in 1 out of every 2 students! Yikes!

That's what you get for a liberal arts education.

I was one of the lucky few who escaped college with my conservatism intact.

540 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:21:51am

re: #532 SurferDoc

That's about the only thing I miss about San Diego.

541 notutopia  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:22:13am

Jagged Little Pill.....


Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill Acoustic//Documentary

542 JacksonTn  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:22:13am

re: #523 realwest

Hey Jackson - this should warm your heart too - I always play this to start my day (except for days when I am too pissed off by the time I get to the computer, like today! LOL!):[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Thanks Real ...it is in my favorites. I love that big guy ... he passed way too soon.

543 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:22:17am

re: #535 aussiemagpie

I heard about that, and was mad enough to chew battleships and spit nails. Got plans for Saturday though. Take some pictures too.

/HT Widerstad

544 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:23:13am

re: #536 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

There's one in every crowd. Grumble.

Gorgeous day on the way here - 30C - about 80F but it is summer here of course :-)

545 DisturbedEma  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:23:16am

re: #531 SasquatchOnSteroids

Na..Na..Naaa..Na

'Chemical Ali' sentenced to death in Iraq

Hey Hey Hey. . .good bye

546 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:24:19am

re: #531 SasquatchOnSteroids Ah my friend you're a day late and a dollar short - see my #495 above! LOL!
It's great news whoever reports it when and it can't be said often enough.
But frankly, hanging is too good for him; he should have to suffer the way the Kurds did when he gassed 'em all.

547 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:24:28am

Real,

Slow down buddy, save a little "love" for Wednesday.

548 DisturbedEma  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:24:29am

re: #535 aussiemagpie

Miss Trixie darls

I've just read about the political situation in Canada and I can understand why you're spitting chips this morning!

An unbelievable attack on democracy in a fellow Commonwealth country

Now what?

549 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:25:12am

re: #544 aussiemagpie

Gorgeous day on the way here - 30C - about 80F but it is summer here of course :-)

You are allowed. Folks in the Northern Hemisphere should be suffering like me. It's a rule.

550 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:25:23am

I wouldn't trust that Personality Disorder study. The last NIH estimate was 9% (in 2007). There is a vested interest in overestimating, i.e. more research money.

551 DisturbedEma  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:25:30am

re: #544 aussiemagpie

Gorgeous day on the way here - 30C - about 80F but it is summer here of course :-)

Grumble grumble. . .it is below freezing here in ChiHellgo

552 gregg  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:25:39am

re: #528 aussiemagpie

I heard about this on a local radio show: 14 snakes found in woman's bedroom in the Northern Territory. It made think about the guy that was asking you about snakes and spiders in Australia a couple weeks ago (I think his son/daughter was going to school in Queensland).

553 DisturbedEma  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:26:23am

re: #552 gregg

I heard about this on a local radio show: 14 snakes found in woman's bedroom in the Northern Territory. It made think about the guy that was asking you about snakes and spiders in Australia a couple weeks ago (I think his son/daughter was going to school in Queensland).

Snakes and me like cheese and caulk

554 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:26:30am
555 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:26:34am

You guys think it's a good idea to sleep for a couple hours to catch up then start up work on my paper again or go straight through without sleeping?

556 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:27:00am

re: #538 realwest

Hi {scotti} - Well everything is fine by me except I gotta go see my doc either tomorrow or Thursday, go the drugstore, call Medicare and do battle with them, call Best Buy and REALLY do battle with them, and then find out who makes that stupid product that evil Billy Mays advertises on TV that he uses to "fix" a torn American Flag and really get on their case! And I'm freezing!
So I'm starting my day at about 5,000 rpm! How are you today

I am at a standstill compared to you! Shall I send both energy and warmth your way?

557 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:27:07am

re: #528 aussiemagpie
Hey {aussie} - good to "see" you out here! Funny, the other day someone posted what Earth looked at at night, for the purposes of showing how poor Africa was
as a continent - very few lights on. I noted at the time that Australia didn't have any more lights on than Africa, so y'all must have PLENTY of room!
Wonder why there aren't more Americans in that summary of Australia's population growth?!
Anyway *smooches* to you sweetie!
Hey, how is Julie doing?

558 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:27:16am

re: #546 realwest

Ah my friend you're a day late and a dollar short

559 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:27:17am

re: #554 Ford_Prefect

Tool belt heading over Russia.

Paging Tim Allen . . .

560 JacksonTn  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:27:36am

re: #555 TheMatrix31

You guys think it's a good idea to sleep for a couple hours to catch up then start up work on my paper again or go straight through without sleeping?

I vote for sleep ...

561 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:27:37am

re: #543 BlueCanuckGoodmorning all!
Geez Blue,Ya got a revolution goin on up north?
R.W....Be careful...that torque converter is only good to 4500 RPM!
Heard comin in to work that there are still 14 ships under pirate control! WTF?
Other than that ...Its a gorgeous mornin!

562 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:27:55am

re: #554 Ford_Prefect

Tool belt heading over Russia.

OK... what's the orbit degredation rate on the toolkit? When is it going to re-enter the atmosphere and (maybe) create a little show for us?

563 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:28:04am

re: #543 BlueCanuck

I heard about that, and was mad enough to chew battleships and spit nails. Got plans for Saturday though. Take some pictures too.

/HT Widerstad

Good for you - and I hope plenty of Canadians go to rallies to protest at this planned undemocratic takeover

The lefties have been taking lessons from their dictator mates around the globe it seems

564 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:28:28am

re: #555 TheMatrix31

You guys think it's a good idea to sleep for a couple hours to catch up then start up work on my paper again or go straight through without sleeping?

If this is your idea of going straight through then maybe sleep would be a good idea.

565 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:28:44am

re: #545 DisturbedEma

That is good news!
They should make him sniff glue till his brain melts!

566 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:29:52am

re: #548 DisturbedEma

Now what?

Not sure what you mean by this?

567 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:29:54am

re: #562 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

OK... what's the orbit degredation rate on the toolkit? When is it going to re-enter the atmosphere and (maybe) create a little show for us?

Don't look at me. I'm no rocket scientist. I just found the link from yesterdays Monday Morning Open thread.

568 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:30:24am

re: #564 Ford_Prefect

If this is your idea of going straight through then maybe sleep would be a good idea.

I'm thinking the same. I can stay up now no problem, I'm just worried when 9am, 10am rolls around that I won't be able to do anything anymore.

569 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:30:35am

re: #555 TheMatrix31

You guys think it's a good idea to sleep for a couple hours to catch up then start up work on my paper again or go straight through without sleeping?

Sleep a bit...your brain will thank you.

570 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:31:52am

re: #547 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT! I'm sure to have enough "love" after today - don't y'all worry about that. But is just kills me the way that pos Billy Mays treats the American Flag!
And Best Buy - feh - either they give me a new computer or I'll sue 'em myself - they'll spend more time and money defending that suit than if they lived up to their warranty contractual obligations!
How are you doing today?
How is your wife doing?

571 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:32:11am

re: #567 Ford_Prefect

Heading over China soon. Do you think that that is where most of the tools were made? I know a lot of my tools were made there... Of course a lot of my tools are broken... I wonder if there is a connection...

572 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:33:03am

re: #571 Ford_Prefect

Heading over China soon. Do you think that that is where most of the tools were made? I know a lot of my tools were made there... Of course a lot of my tools are broken... I wonder if there is a connection...

And they also contain a lot of MSG.

573 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:33:23am

re: #564 Ford_Prefect
ROTFLMAO! Great answer! How are ya today?

574 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:33:57am

re: #549 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

You are allowed. Folks in the Northern Hemisphere should be suffering like me. It's a rule.

Thank you and I intend to enjoy summer - we didn't get much of one last time - Algore kept on coming here :-)

I enjoy all the snow stories here on LGF each northern winter while I'm sweating and swatting flies and mossies - snow talk helps me feel a bit cooler

575 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:34:20am

Morning all... Lovely day out here in NYC... Not too cold... Buckle up for the stock market roller coaster...

577 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:35:30am

Hey Lizards! I'm back after the long weekend. Hope you all had a better Thanksgiving than I did. I had to take my Mom to the ER on Saturday. She's not feeling very well & neither am I after a weekend of looking after her.

578 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:35:34am

re: #572 Wyatt Earp
Howdy* Wyatt - how are you today? I hope you're well!
* getting my best Doc Holliday going for dealing with Best Buy and Billy Mays!

579 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:35:56am

re: #573 realwest

ROTFLMAO! Great answer! How are ya today?

I am well, thanks. Sorry about your computer woes. Say, was that computer made in China? I am sensing a trend.

580 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:36:19am

re: #574 aussiemagpie

Thank you and I intend to enjoy summer - we didn't get much of one last time - Algore kept on coming here :-)

I enjoy all the snow stories here on LGF each northern winter while I'm sweating and swatting flies and mossies - snow talk helps me feel a bit cooler

Mornin' Aussie...what are 'mossies?'

581 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:36:26am

Good morning, Lizards.

582 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:36:29am

Okay. I need to get going if I'm going to get into work--even if I'm late.

Later.

583 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:36:46am

re: #578 realwest

Howdy* Wyatt - how are you today? I hope you're well!
* getting my best Doc Holliday going for dealing with Best Buy and Billy Mays!

Gonna buy some Mighty Putty for stocking stuffers? :)

584 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:37:12am

realwest: Did the Best Buy geeks ever check your computer's power supply?

585 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:37:22am

re: #577 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hey Lizards! I'm back after the long weekend. Hope you all had a better Thanksgiving than I did. I had to take my Mom to the ER on Saturday. She's not feeling very well & neither am I after a weekend of looking after her.

Sorry to hear that. Prayers going up for you both.

586 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:37:36am

re: #576 SasquatchOnSteroids

Aahh, something they've found women useful for in the ME.

That is absolutely outrageous! I can see their mouths! Make them cover up!

/////

587 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:37:44am

re: #581 jorline

Good morning, Lizards.

Mornin' jorline...

588 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:37:49am

re: #577 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hey Lizards! I'm back after the long weekend. Hope you all had a better Thanksgiving than I did. I had to take my Mom to the ER on Saturday. She's not feeling very well & neither am I after a weekend of looking after her.

Very sorry to hear that BDVM. Get some rest when you can and keep us up to date for prayers.

589 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:38:18am

re: #578 realwest

Your a Daisy if ya do!
Or
I'm your Huckelberry!

590 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:38:21am

re: #575 tfc3rid
Good morning to y'all. You are warmer in NYC than we are down here in the "Southland" by about 8 degrees. That #^$%^@ Al Gore!
Sounds like you have a lovely day up there in my hometown.

591 JacksonTn  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:38:32am

re: #576 SasquatchOnSteroids

Aahh, something they've found women useful for in the ME.

Wow ...my father was a SEAL/UDT/EOD during his navy career ... I am pretty sure rakes were not in their tool cases for explosive disposal ...I cannot believe that is what they use to locate mines ...

592 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:39:08am

re: #579 Ford_Prefect
I don't know, but the Hard Drive was made in Malaysia; don't know about the motherboard though!

593 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:39:14am

re: #551 DisturbedEma

Grumble grumble. . .it is below freezing here in ChiHellgo

LOL! ChiHellgo! But then I'll be grumbling in July while you're all warm and tanned and enjoying summer, and we're suffering winter :-)

Without the snow and freezing weather of course here in Sydney

594 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:39:42am

re: #577 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hey Lizards! I'm back after the long weekend. Hope you all had a better Thanksgiving than I did. I had to take my Mom to the ER on Saturday. She's not feeling very well & neither am I after a weekend of looking after her.

Sorry to hear that, Monkey. I hope you are both doing better soon.

595 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:40:05am

Mornin' all. Asshats on parade this morning, Carl Levin, Rep for UAW shilling on FNC, then Plaxico Buress attorney says his client is an "adult professional". Bwahahaha!

596 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:40:19am

re: #577 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Oh, geez. What's wrong with your mom? Is she gonna be ok? Are you still watching after her? Am I being too nosy?!

597 notutopia  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:41:04am

re: #537 scottishbuzzsaw
And then there's the question of ethics, or lack thereof:
[Link: charactercounts.org...]

I read this and I have a problem/s with this study. No comparable statistics or hypotheses other than from criminology. Thus, Is this useful or just an opinion. How can you claim that it is worsening or
declining ethics or are these behaviors NEW of our present society. They did not do comparable studies on these issues in 1900, 1925, 1950, 1975,.....all we have are crime statistics.
Perhaps what we are witnessing now is the interest from sociology, psychology, ethics and criminology to attempt to track the core issues of behavior as related to the actual root causes of unethical practices.
Is it because of a change in society Or a change in the environment or has it been there all along and we are just now awakening to the fact that
unethical behavior that is considered socially acceptable is ruining our society.

None the less, a good article to read. Disturbing, if your reality believes in and assumes ethical behavior as the standard for our society....

Thanxs,
: )

598 Nevergiveup  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:41:09am

re: #595 pingjockey

Mornin' all. Asshats on parade this morning, Carl Levin, Rep for UAW shilling on FNC, then Plaxico Buress attorney says his client is an "adult professional". Bwahahaha!

Aren't Prostitutes also "Adult Professionals"?

599 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:41:39am

re: #592 realwest

I don't know, but the Hard Drive was made in Malaysia; don't know about the motherboard though!

I would suggest calling tech support but India is rather busy right now.

600 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:41:43am

re: #581 jorline
Good morning jorline! How are ya doing today? Did your doc give you any samples or has your health insurance company come around on the issue?

601 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:41:59am

re: #590 realwest

Good morning to y'all. You are warmer in NYC than we are down here in the "Southland" by about 8 degrees. That #^$%^@ Al Gore!
Sounds like you have a lovely day up there in my hometown.

Morning... Certainly seems like it... But trust me, I would rather be down in the Southland...

602 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:42:04am

re: #598 Nevergiveup
Good point!

603 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:42:26am

re: #595 pingjockey

Mornin' all. Asshats on parade this morning, Carl Levin, Rep for UAW shilling on FNC, then Plaxico Buress attorney says his client is an "adult professional". Bwahahaha!

Burress is a professional. A professional knucklehead.

604 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:42:58am

re: #598 Nevergiveup

Aren't Prostitutes also "Adult Professionals"?

Plaxico Burress is an 'Adult Professional American'

605 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:44:17am

re: #603 Wyatt Earp

Burress is a professional. A professional knucklehead.

"Gee, I make millions of dollars playing sports...wonder what would happen if I shot myself in the leg..."
-Plaxico Brainless

606 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:44:17am

re: #557 realwest

Hey {aussie} - good to "see" you out here! Funny, the other day someone posted what Earth looked at at night, for the purposes of showing how poor Africa was
as a continent - very few lights on. I noted at the time that Australia didn't have any more lights on than Africa, so y'all must have PLENTY of room!
Wonder why there aren't more Americans in that summary of Australia's population growth?!
Anyway *smooches* to you sweetie!
Hey, how is Julie doing?

*Smooch* for you darls! And thanks for your *smooches* Much appreciated!

Yes we have plenty of room if you like living in the desert :-)

Julie is fine and thanks for asking - she's now been hospital free for 20 months :-)

607 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:44:18am

re: #603 Wyatt Earp
3 1/2 years mandatory for that little fire arms violation....Wonder if the Grand jury will indict. The bailiff this morning did get his name wrong so maybe the GJ will not be star struck.

608 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:44:34am

re: #584 SurferDoc
I don't KNOW if they did. They're the effin' geeks, not me. They've tried to replace the motherboard with three different replacement motherboards and none of 'em worked and they ran a diagnostic that says my HD is FUBAR!
THEY are the one's getting paid (not by me) to fix this #&$%#& computer - if the pwer supply is the problem I'd think they'd a checked it ya know?

609 notutopia  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:44:40am

re: #550 SurferDoc

SHHHhhhhh. Don't tell them that ....they are scared enough already to hear that our present society is suffering from an vast increase in mental illness....
/

610 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:45:51am

re: #605 Ford_Prefect

You would be continually made fun of at LGF. Welcome to the Big Time, Plax!

re: #607 pingjockey

Never. Frakkin'. Happen.

611 nyc redneck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:46:03am

re: #571 Ford_Prefect

Heading over China soon. Do you think that that is where most of the tools were made? I know a lot of my tools were made there... Of course a lot of my tools are broken... I wonder if there is a connection...

i buy a lot of tools at yard sales and junk stores. pliers, screw drivers, files, saws. garden tools. anything w/ a wooden handle.
and old steel which can actually be sharpened.
sometimes in my work i use needle nose pliers. it is astounding how ridiculously bad the chinese stuff is. the tips break off. they don't bend under pressure. they break, almost like pottery. i've realized they are, in fact, NOT metal, as it used to be.
the pliers look like metal but it is some kind of ground up pressed stuff. not even worth buying.

612 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:46:05am

re: #609 notutopia

SHHHhhhhh. Don't tell them that ....they are scared enough already to hear that our present society is suffering from an vast increase in mental illness....
/

I think we have anecdotal evidence out of the proverbial wazoo to back that fear.

613 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:46:08am

re: #591 JacksonTn

Wow ...my father was a SEAL/UDT/EOD during his navy career ... I am pretty sure rakes were not in their tool cases for explosive disposal ...I cannot believe that is what they use to locate mines ...

Maybe this was their sentence for being raped.

614 SummerSong  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:46:13am

re: #555 TheMatrix31

You guys think it's a good idea to sleep for a couple hours to catch up then start up work on my paper again or go straight through without sleeping?

How old are you? Generally, some sleep is better than no sleep.

615 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:46:16am

Good morning.

Say it ain't so, Jobs:

Apple pushes anti-virus for Macs

616 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:46:17am

re: #583 Wyatt Earp
Oh yeah, Wyatt, I'm gonna buy some of this "mend all" crap, soons I finish loading my second Colt and my 10 gauge street sweeper!

617 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:46:52am

re: #608 realwest
Maybe they haven't been to the school of logical trouble shooting. Check settings, switch positions, fuses, power, then start swapping boards. Sheesh. Leastwise that is what or how uncle sams canoe club teaches trouble shooting.

618 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:47:04am

re: #616 realwest

Oh yeah, Wyatt, I'm gonna buy some of this "mend all" crap, soons I finish loading my second Colt and my 10 gauge street sweeper!

Hey, a guy with plastic hair and a painted-on beard can't be wrong!

619 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:47:24am

re: #610 Wyatt Earp
Sadly, probably no.

620 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:47:38am

Hey, RW. Go play with Best Buy on your old stomping ground...court. You could also contact your local media for a consumer report story. Play up your current health and financial issues and how this big company is screwing "Joe Computer". The MSM loves this shit...perhaps you could wear a "Obama/Biden 2008" button for the proverbial nail in the coffin. May be a waste of time, but with this tight economy nobody wants bad PR.

Tell Peta you're an endangered lizard without your computer.

621 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:47:46am

re: #615 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

Say it ain't so, Jobs:

Apple pushes anti-virus for Macs

Welcum to teh interwebs, Applies.

622 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:47:53am

re: #580 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' Aussie...what are 'mossies?'

Hi, mossies = mosquitos

623 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:48:20am

re: #595 pingjockey
Good morning ping! A professional what? I've some ideas but there are lizardettes on the thread now so I'll keep my thoughts about him to myself.
How are you doing today?

624 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:48:24am

re: #587 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' jorline...

Good morning to you, scottish. Hope all is well with you today.

625 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:48:35am

re: #622 aussiemagpie

Hi, mossies = mosquitos

Oh, skeeters.

/

626 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:48:51am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area and I see that the pirates in Somalia are busy once again. Their latest attack was on a US cruise ship that was in the midst of a 32 day cruise with port stops in Africa, Asia and Europe. Thankfully no one on board was injured as the cruise ship managed to speed out of harm's way.

And the pirates claim that no one can stop them.

Nonsense. If the world stops negotiating with them and starts blowing up the ships that the pirates use, that will send a real message. How many innocent people have to suffer as a result of the ongoing lawlessness in Somalia that now extends for hundreds of miles off the Somali coast?

627 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:49:15am

re: #577 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hey Lizards! I'm back after the long weekend. Hope you all had a better Thanksgiving than I did. I had to take my Mom to the ER on Saturday. She's not feeling very well & neither am I after a weekend of looking after her.

Best wishes to your Mum, and I hope she's feeling much better soon

628 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:49:38am

re: #619 pingjockey

Sadly, probably no.

Just my experience. I have seen pseudo-celebrities in Philly get away with much worse. Damned shame.

629 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:49:51am

re: #603 Wyatt Earp

Burress is a professional. A professional knucklehead.

Indeed. A few years back, a neighbor's grown son returned home to live for awhile. One night when his parents were out he cleaned his gun and stuck it in his waistband when he was done...then bounded up the stairs by twos. Shot himself in the leg, too.

630 JacksonTn  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:50:11am

re: #613 SasquatchOnSteroids

Maybe this was their sentence for being raped.

I wish that were a joke but in reality it very well could be the truth ...

631 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:50:21am

re: #623 realwest
A professional idiot! Sorry about your computer. Mine works when it wants to. 2 teenagers downloading God knows what, no pr0n from what I can see, lotsa music, music vids.

632 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:50:22am

re: #607 pingjockey

3 1/2 years mandatory for that little fire arms violation....Wonder if the Grand jury will indict. The bailiff this morning did get his name wrong so maybe the GJ will not be star struck.

Well, it sounds like there is enough to indict... Allegedly, the gun was caught my the club;s metal detectors but the owner let him enter anyway... That's pretty damning...

633 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:50:29am

re: #626 lawhawk

You have to try to undertstand the root causes of pirate rage and frustration.

634 DaddyG  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:50:33am

re: #499 SlothB77

there was another attack in india overnight? Bomb blast on a train in northeast india (very far away from mumbai, but still in india).

sweet jebus.

Dear Lord (Or the diety of your belief) preserve these good people.

635 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:50:51am

re: #622 aussiemagpie

Hi, mossies = mosquitos

I should have thought of that...perhaps another cup of coffee will help...

636 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:50:52am

re: #629 scottishbuzzsaw

Indeed. A few years back, a neighbor's grown son returned home to live for awhile. One night when his parents were out he cleaned his gun and stuck it in his waistband when he was done...then bounded up the stairs by twos. Shot himself in the leg, too.

What offends me as a detective is when people claim they shot themselves "while cleaning their gun."

637 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:51:13am

re: #575 tfc3rid

It's interesting how everyone was "surprised" that a recession was declared and that was the reason for the market drop yesterday. Everyone knows the economy is in bad shape, but even yesterday's recession declaration is suspect when they ignore the usual benchmarks to claim that it was employment data that determined that the recession started December 2007, rather than the usual 2 consecutive down quarters. Under the usual rule, recession still isn't present because 1Q and 2Q 2008 were up.

Then again, it's not like the media hasn't been claiming that there was a recession in place since like Jan 20, 2001. /

638 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:51:14am

re: #601 tfc3rid
Huh? Y'all would rather be down in the Southland? Why, do you like COLD weather?!

639 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:51:45am

re: #611 nyc redneck

I agree completely. Screws and nails too. Screws strip out way too easily. Pisses me off to no end.

640 notutopia  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:51:49am

re: #533 vxbush
This is from that article...
Because the survey — National Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions (NESARC) — was NOT CONDUCTED BY CLINICIANS, to make the mental illness diagnoses, they used criteria in a version of DSM designed for lay people (the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism Alcohol Use Disorder and Associated Disabilities Interview Schedule–DSM-IV). The authors used data on about 5,100 young people 18-24 years of age from the NESARC survey of a representative sampling of the U.S. adult population. The survey had asked about:

“substance use disorders,” including alcohol use, tobacco use, medicine use, drug use; “mood disorders,” including major depression, dysthymia (bad mood or “ill humor”), mania and hypomania (irritability, hypersensitivity, racing thoughts, impulsiveness, decreased sleep, risky sexual activity, wasteful spending, getting in trouble with the law; “anxiety disorders,” including panic disorder and agoraphobia, social phobia and feelings of self-consciousness and embarrassment in social situations, specific phobia or general anxiety; conduct and personality disorders, self-denigrating thinking, antisocial personality disorder, problem gambling, dependence, obsessive-compulsive, victimization; and family history and treatments

Okay, I ask the question...Is this behavioral evolution OR d/t stress induced environment OR as a result of society declines and acceptance in unethical behavior?
: )

641 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:52:05am

re: #633 Occasional Reader

I have a root cause, but the usual suspects aren't going to like it one bit.

Bill Clinton's failure to act in Somalia followed in close order by the cut and run.

642 JacksonTn  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:52:31am

re: #615 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

Say it ain't so, Jobs:

Apple pushes anti-virus for Macs

In your opinion, what is the best one to get ...I have a desktop mac and a mac laptop ...I have no anti-virus protection on them now ...

643 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:52:35am

re: #632 tfc3rid
His next court date isn't until Mar. 31. The NFL may take action though. There's a personal conduct clause in every contract and this incident violates that. So we'll see.

644 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:52:58am

re: #598 Nevergiveup
Good morning to you. "Aren't Prostitutes also "Adult Professionals"?".
Regrettfully, no, they are not all adults. Not chronologically nor mentally.

645 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:53:05am

re: #636 Wyatt Earp

What offends me as a detective is when people claim they shot themselves "while cleaning their gun."

My great-great-grandfather actually did clean the gun before killing himself on the porch, according to my great-grandfather who was putting corn in the barn with his brother when he heard the shot.

The family left off the "killing himself" part for a few decades.

646 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:53:21am

re: #608 realwest

I don't KNOW if they did. They're the effin' geeks, not me. They've tried to replace the motherboard with three different replacement motherboards and none of 'em worked and they ran a diagnostic that says my HD is FUBAR!
THEY are the one's getting paid (not by me) to fix this #&$%#& computer - if the pwer supply is the problem I'd think they'd a checked it ya know?

I've followed your account of this and never saw you mention it. Just asking. At this point they owe you a computer, period.

647 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:53:23am

re: #626 lawhawk

The world seemingly has no backbone to deal with it... We need to blow these 'ships' out of the water... Just like I had wished the Indian police and military blew the terrorists away on Day 1 of the attack...

648 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:53:31am

re: #624 jorline

Good morning to you, scottish. Hope all is well with you today.

All is well here. The sun is shining after a couple of snowy days...the park across the street is a sparkling wonderland.

How's all with you?

649 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:53:42am

re: #633 Occasional Reader

You have to try to undertstand the root causes of pirate rage and frustration.

What does Deepak Chopra think?

650 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:54:46am

re: #637 lawhawk

True but with yesterday's BIG ALERT messages that this group DECLARES US is in a recession... That's the method used to 'convince' those who aren't in the know that there is a recession...

651 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:54:51am

Obama, governors meeting today at a critical moment

Gov. Ed Rendell will be among the governors meeting today in Philadelphia with President-elect Barack Obama. The gathering is the latest in a series of unprecedented actions by Mr. Obama to respond to economic crises. He intends to have a series of plans lined up that can be adopted as soon as he is inaugurated on Jan. 20.
[...]
Mr. Obama wants to hear what the governors need most. One area already broached by the Obama team is help with infrastructure, enabling states to put people to work. Gov. Rendell says this is the very best kind of stimulus because it can create hundreds of thousands of jobs nationwide. Mr. Obama has said he wants to create 2.5 million jobs of all kinds by 2011.

Also on the table today will be the concept of helping states to meet the health care needs of poor people. Expanding state-supported health care has been a priority for Gov. Rendell, and health care is a big-ticket item in the state budget. The situation in other states is the same.

What a crock of shit.

652 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:54:55am

Chemical Ali sentenced to death for the 2nd time.

653 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:55:05am

re: #606 aussiemagpie
Ah thanks {aussie} I had thought you had said Julie had developed some sort of medical problem recently - glad to know I was wrong!

654 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:55:25am

re: #636 Wyatt Earp

What offends me as a detective is when people claim they shot themselves "while cleaning their gun."

They are either a) retarded or b) lying.

I'm banking on b.

655 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:55:36am

re: #640 notutopia

This is from that article...
Because the survey — National Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions (NESARC) — was NOT CONDUCTED BY CLINICIANS, to make the mental illness diagnoses, they used criteria in a version of DSM designed for lay people (the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism Alcohol Use Disorder and Associated Disabilities Interview Schedule–DSM-IV). The authors used data on about 5,100 young people 18-24 years of age from the NESARC survey of a representative sampling of the U.S. adult population. The survey had asked about:

“substance use disorders,” including alcohol use, tobacco use, medicine use, drug use; “mood disorders,” including major depression, dysthymia (bad mood or “ill humor”), mania and hypomania (irritability, hypersensitivity, racing thoughts, impulsiveness, decreased sleep, risky sexual activity, wasteful spending, getting in trouble with the law; “anxiety disorders,” including panic disorder and agoraphobia, social phobia and feelings of self-consciousness and embarrassment in social situations, specific phobia or general anxiety; conduct and personality disorders, self-denigrating thinking, antisocial personality disorder, problem gambling, dependence, obsessive-compulsive, victimization; and family history and treatments

Okay, I ask the question...Is this behavioral evolution OR d/t stress induced environment OR as a result of society declines and acceptance in unethical behavior?
: )

It is a crap study. Junk science, from what you posted.

656 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:55:36am

re: #645 OldLineTexan

My great-great-grandfather actually did clean the gun before killing himself on the porch, according to my great-grandfather who was putting corn in the barn with his brother when he heard the shot.

The family left off the "killing himself" part for a few decades.

My apologies, OLT. Obviously, there is always an exception that proves the rule.

657 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:55:46am

re: #643 pingjockey

His next court date isn't until Mar. 31. The NFL may take action though. There's a personal conduct clause in every contract and this incident violates that. So we'll see.

The Giants are due to pay him an additional $1 Million if he is on the roster as of 12/10... There is no way he sees that bonus...

658 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:55:47am

re: #636 Wyatt Earp

What offends me as a detective is when people claim they shot themselves "while cleaning their gun."

Understandable.

659 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:56:04am

re: #652 pingjockey

Chemical Ali sentenced to death for the 2nd time.

So they are going to kill him twice?

660 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:56:12am

re: #636 Wyatt Earp

What offends me as a detective is when people claim they shot themselves "while cleaning their gun."

That does actually happen, of course.

661 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:56:50am

re: #656 Wyatt Earp

My apologies, OLT. Obviously, there is always an exception that proves the rule.

That's no exception, actually, more of a wry statement. He did a good enough job to not have to explain himself afterwards.

662 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:57:00am

re: #651 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

In other words, the Democratic governors will come pleading and begging for a handout...

663 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:57:06am

re: #652 pingjockey

Chemical Ali sentenced to death for the 2nd time.

They're going to use Yakuza. "They'll kill you two times before you hit the ground!"

664 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:57:29am

re: #642 JacksonTn

In your opinion, what is the best one to get ...I have a desktop mac and a mac laptop ...I have no anti-virus protection on them now ...

I have no idea. I currently have no anti-virus on my Macbook either, and was told specifically by very tech-savvy friends that it wasn't necessary. Looks like that's no longer the case.

665 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:57:36am

re: #659 Ford_Prefect

So they are going to kill him twice?

They will kill him until he is dead...

666 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:57:51am

re: #615 Occasional Reader
Bill Gates was laughing too hard to comment.
How are you O.R.?

667 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:58:17am
668 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:58:32am
669 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:58:33am

re: #665 tfc3rid

They will kill him until he is dead...

And then they will kill him again.

670 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:59:09am

re: #654 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

They are either a) retarded or b) lying.

I'm banking on b.

Actually, I know someone who shot himself in the leg while cleaning (or preparing to clean) a gun, who is a) a very smart guy and b) an *extremely* experienced shooter. As he sheepishly admits, he just plain forgot the first rule of gun safety for a moment. It happens.

671 3 wood  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:59:14am

The DOW opened up, but now is dropping and is only 5 points up but going toward negative territory.

672 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:59:20am
673 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:59:21am

re: #648 scottishbuzzsaw

All is well here. The sun is shining after a couple of snowy days...the park across the street is a sparkling wonderland.

How's all with you?

Weather is beautiful...42 this morning going to 78 degrees this afternoon. I miss seeing the snow, but I don't miss the stuff come February...lol

674 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:59:27am

re: #665 tfc3rid

They will kill him until he is dead...

I am not dead yet.

675 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:59:32am

re: #649 tfc3rid

What does Deepak Chopra think?

Enemas for everyone!

676 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:59:41am

re: #668 ploome hineni

I didn;t know you were a detective!

how is your wife doing?

Ready for this: She went to the doctor's today and they told her she's 4cm dilated. She's due on January 3rd, but like the last three kids, I'm betting she'll be early! :)

And yes, I am a detective in the Philly PD. Best job in the world.

677 3 wood  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:59:44am

re: #492 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Which way is the Market Rocket facing on the Launch Pad? Up or down?

Down.

678 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 6:59:58am

re: #667 FrogMarch

Hi all.

Chopra hits bottom, digs.

GAH! What an idiot...

679 JacksonTn  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:00:15am

re: #664 Occasional Reader

I have no idea. I currently have no anti-virus on my Macbook either, and was told specifically by very tech-savvy friends that it wasn't necessary. Looks like that's no longer the case.

I think Charles uses a mac ...maybe he could recommend something if he is using anti-virus protection ...I just changed from pc to mac (and love it) so I am clueless ...

680 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:00:22am

I received this email about new degrees offered around the country:

NOV. 26 INSIDE HIGHER ED

New Programs: Interior Design, Journalism, Nanoscale Technology, Victim Advocacy, Engineering

Parsons the New School for Design is starting an M.F.A. program in interior design.

Rochester Institute of Technology is starting a bachelor of science degree in journalism, with an emphasis on new media and technology.

Schenectady County Community College, in New York, is starting an associate in applied science degree in nanoscale materials technology.

University of Central Florida has started a new certificate program in victim advocacy.

University of Michigan at Dearborn is starting its first Ph.D. programs: in automotive systems engineering and information systems engineering.

681 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:00:31am

re: #635 scottishbuzzsaw

I should have thought of that...perhaps another cup of coffee will help...

Plenty of coffee around here... and I'm having one last cuppa before bedtime too

Need to make sure I understand those dreams :-)

682 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:00:31am

re: #675 Occasional Reader

Enemas for everyone!

If Federally-funded, does that make it an Enema of the State?

683 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:00:47am

re: #663 Wyatt Earp

They're going to use Yakuza. "They'll kill you two times before you hit the ground!"

That's nothing compared to Uncle Milty (Milton Berle), who would kill you a million times.

Later.

684 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:01:01am

re: #670 Occasional Reader

Actually, I know someone who shot himself in the leg while cleaning (or preparing to clean) a gun, who is a) a very smart guy and b) an *extremely* experienced shooter. As he sheepishly admits, he just plain forgot the first rule of gun safety for a moment. It happens.

Temporary retardation. That happens, too.

Clear... then handle/clean/whatever. Probably the first thing anyone ever told him as to how to handle a firearm.

685 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:01:04am
686 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:01:17am

re: #676 Wyatt Earp

Ready for this: She went to the doctor's today and they told her she's 4cm dilated. She's due on January 3rd, but like the last three kids, I'm betting she'll be early! :)

And yes, I am a detective in the Philly PD. Best job in the world.

Hey! Good luck to you both, Wyatt!

687 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:01:22am

re: #657 tfc3rid
I'm thinking they may go after some of the 11 million they already paid him.

688 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:01:25am

re: #676 Wyatt Earp

Ready for this: She went to the doctor's today and they told her she's 4cm dilated. She's due on January 3rd, but like the last three kids, I'm betting she'll be early! :)

And yes, I am a detective in the Philly PD. Best job in the world.

Wow - you're brave. What are you up to now - 5 police officers killed this year?

689 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:01:58am

You're - gah - pimf

690 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:02:09am

re: #682 OldLineTexan

If Federally-funded, does that make it an Enema of the State?

"Keep your friends close and your enemas closer?!"

691 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:02:12am

re: #617 pingjockey
Ah crap, ping. this past Saturday the Geek Squad guy showed up promptly at 8:00AM.
Geek Squad guy showed up, intstalled THIRD Motherboard (actually only TWO previously installed, the Third one a part fell off of it - a capicitor - when the GS agent opended the package).
Surprise - this third motherboard didn't work either.
Then I asked him to insall new HD (which I'd received a while back but it didn't make much sense to me to have them install it, use the Resoration Disk and all without a good motherboard) and the Resore Diskette so I could make sure they were ok. He did, Restore Disk worked fine, but then after windows opened the machine shut itself off. This happended four times and finally the Agent said that the new
Hard Drive must be screwed up - so we ordered a new HD as well.
Spoke to a someone at Best Buy and she said she'd send it up to Corporate to see about a new computer and I almost totallly lost it- explained to her that I had already spoken at the end of last week with some one who's Indian accent was so thick I couldn't get his name and he told me THEN that if this motherboard didn't work they'd give me a new computer.
I'm telling ya I don't know what the fuck they shoulda checked - that's why I called them to come out here and fix my computer.
Now fuck 'em - I want a NEW computer. Period.

692 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:02:16am
693 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:02:39am

re: #662 tfc3rid

In other words, the Democratic governors will come pleading and begging for a handout freshly printed and stacked, bailout money...

Get your money for nothin get your chicks for free.....

694 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:02:50am

re: #690 scottishbuzzsaw

"Keep your friends close and your enemas closer?!"

I hear Nixon kept an enemas list...TMI, IMO.

695 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:03:00am

re: #659 Ford_Prefect
It's been done. San Francisco during the gold rush. dude got hung in a fight between crooks and vigilantes, by accident. The vigilantes got the body and rehung the dude as an example!

696 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:03:10am

re: #678 scottishbuzzsaw

GAH! What an idiot...

Hey Scottishbuzzsaw! Nice to see you.

697 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:03:21am

re: #638 realwest

Huh? Y'all would rather be down in the Southland? Why, do you like COLD weather?!


Maybe he means further south - like down here? :-)

698 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:03:25am
699 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:04:07am

Wyatt - 4cm can go at any time - especially if she's already had a few. When I worked for an OB/GYN we had a patient who didn't quite make it across the parking lot to the hospital. We watched as her husband escorted her from our OB office across the parking lot - when all of a sudden she stopped for a big contraction. Our nurse ran out the back door, and they did a fireman's carry to the hospital lobby where our patient had the baby

700 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:04:13am

re: #676 Wyatt Earp

Ready for this: She went to the doctor's today and they told her she's 4cm dilated. She's due on January 3rd, but like the last three kids, I'm betting she'll be early! :)

And yes, I am a detective in the Philly PD. Best job in the world.

Prayers for you both...

701 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:04:48am

Aussiemagpie, the tool belt just passed over your way. Did you see it?

702 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:04:49am

re: #688 DistantThunder

Wow - you're brave. What are you up to now - 5 police officers killed this year?

Five since last Halloween. One was a friend, one I worked with as a rookie. Terrible year.

703 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:04:57am
704 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:05:19am

re: #691 realwest
Damn straight! That level of ineptitude is not right.

705 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:05:28am

4cm? Can you see the kid's feet? It must be in there hanging on the umbilical cord!

706 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:05:34am

re: #696 FrogMarch

Hey Scottishbuzzsaw! Nice to see you.

Good morning, FrogMarch...good to see you, too...how have you been?

707 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:05:46am

re: #700 scottishbuzzsaw

re: #692 ploome hineni

re: #686 Ford_Prefect


Thanks, folks! She'll be my fourth (and final) child, and my first girl.

708 notutopia  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:06:06am

re: #645 OldLineTexan

Good insight.
Many of us have and have had mental illness in our families for multiple generations.
However, admitting it is another illness of shame.
In order to really study mental illness, chronological scientific clinical studies with comparable and contrasting findings needs to be conducted and made available. This is one advantage we get from drug development and trials.
We just don't have those from the beginning of the 1900's. So, much of what you see is evolving in the science fields of psychology and sociology and criminology and pharmocology.
Thank science that we no longer have asylums where people who suffer from organic metabolic tertiary syphilis or diabetic reaction of delusions as a result of hyperglycemia are locked up for their disease.

709 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:06:07am

re: #703 ploome hineni

Chopra get this from Gandhi...Gandhi ws into enemas

I'll take that over the low-process (i.e., none) urine recycling.

710 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:06:41am

re: #705 OldLineTexan

4cm? Can you see the kid's feet? It must be in there hanging on the umbilical cord!

And we have the proud pappa of a Jump Master... he/she is checking for the green light and the drop zone, hanging out the door like a stud.

711 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:07:10am

re: #707 Wyatt Earp
Congratulations. We gave up on a girl after the 3rd boy. Y'all have just had a shooting at K-Mart.

712 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:07:32am

With friends like Deepak Chopra who needs enemas?

713 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:07:37am

re: #699 DistantThunder

Wyatt - 4cm can go at any time - especially if she's already had a few. When I worked for an OB/GYN we had a patient who didn't quite make it across the parking lot to the hospital. We watched as her husband escorted her from our OB office across the parking lot - when all of a sudden she stopped for a big contraction. Our nurse ran out the back door, and they did a fireman's carry to the hospital lobby where our patient had the baby


The doctor ended the appointment with, "See you next week!" The wife told me she looked at her and said, "Right."

I knew we were close when the missus packed the overnight bag on Sunday. She told me, "We may want to put the Christmas decorations up now. The girl is coming soon." I deferred to her maternal voodoo instincts.

714 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:07:48am

re: #698 ploome hineni

how many store clerks killed this year?

teachers?

what a thing to say

I should have put a sarc tag - philly is notorious for murders of police officers. In response they just pass more and more gun-control laws. And then crime escalates, and they have protest marches, and pols promising that the killing ends now, etc - and then it gets worse.

We get the Philly new herea in South Jersey, and yesterday there was a story about a day-time hold-up at Friendly's where the customers were held at gun point.

715 SFGoth  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:08:05am

re: #278 TheMatrix31

**sigh**

I still have a 10 page paper on the jury trial system to start.

I used to hate it (I'm a lawyer), then I got screwed over by a stupid and biased judge. I've served on a jury and we really did want to make the right decision within the parameters of the instructions the judge gave us. With some reservations, I now prefer the jury system to a political hack making decisions out of boredom.

716 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:08:44am

re: #707 Wyatt Earp

re: #692 ploome hineni

re: #686 Ford_Prefect


Thanks, folks! She'll be my fourth (and final) child, and my first girl.

That's great. I have just one. A girl. I'll tell, as soon as you look at her you will know with no uncertainty that no one will ever be good enough for her. No, Dorian, not even you.

717 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:08:57am

re: #620 jorline
Thanks for the tips my friend, but believe it or not, I DO know how to handle "recalcitrant" businesses!

The really bad part is that I really can't reach my oncologist before 10:00AM or after 5:00PM or at all on weekends except by e-mail. I've let Best Buy know that, forced Double Agent that was here Saturday to let me read what he was putting in his report, made a couple of "minor" corrections, and after he sent it I had him print out a hard copy of what he sent. He wasn't unhappy to do it as he thinks Best Buy is sticking it to me too.
Having that part fall off the "new" motherboard (the second one they sent to me) really got me going.

718 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:09:04am

re: #713 Wyatt Earp
Never underestimate feminine intuition.

719 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:09:18am

I received a special delivery from UPS yesterday…my new group health insurance premium for next year. A modest 24% increase, $1132 a month to $1401 a month for my family coverage. Screwed and they didn’t even kiss me.

720 notutopia  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:09:36am

re: #676 Wyatt Earp

Wyatt, keep us posted please on her progress. I've got the cuban cigars ready to pass out in the lizard lounge....
Congratulations!

721 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:09:44am

re: #714 DistantThunder

I should have put a sarc tag - philly is notorious for murders of police officers. In response they just pass more and more gun-control laws. And then crime escalates, and they have protest marches, and pols promising that the killing ends now, etc - and then it gets worse.

We get the Philly new herea in South Jersey, and yesterday there was a story about a day-time hold-up at Friendly's where the customers were held at gun point.


It's okay. I knew what you meant. I have worn my mourning crepe on my shield for a third of the calendar year in 2008. The patrol guys are the true heroes. I'm a desk jockey. A secretary with a gun.

722 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:10:17am

re: #720 notutopia

Wyatt, keep us posted please on her progress. I've got the cuban cigars ready to pass out in the lizard lounge....
Congratulations!

I will. At work now, but ready to run out at a moment's notice.

723 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:10:25am

re: #716 Ford_Prefect

I'll tell, as soon as you look at her you will know with no uncertainty that no one will ever be good enough for her. No, Dorian, not even you.

LOL! He's not going to take that well. ;>)

724 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:10:39am

re: #667 FrogMarch

Hi all.

Chopra hits bottom, digs.

Chopra was on Hannity and Colmes last night and continued saying that we need to basically pay off these nations to make their lives better so they do not hate...

He also interestingly said to Sean Hannity that Fox News cheered on the US when we lied and went into a war in Iraq...

Classy fellow...

725 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:10:58am

re: #719 jorline

I received a special delivery from UPS yesterday…my new group health insurance premium for next year. A modest 24% increase, $1132 a month to $1401 a month for my family coverage. Screwed and they didn’t even kiss me.

No flowers either I bet.

726 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:11:25am

re: #653 realwest

Ah thanks {aussie} I had thought you had said Julie had developed some sort of medical problem recently - glad to know I was wrong!

She had an MRI on Friday, which showed some problems with her ribs - however she's not heard anything from her doc, Prof Penny, she's seeing him on Friday so we're assuming it's nothing bad or she would have been told by now

727 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:11:25am

re: #724 tfc3rid
Classy, yep. First class asshat!

728 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:11:35am

Off to slay dragons, play nice lizards!

729 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:11:40am

re: #713 Wyatt Earp

My daughter was born 10 weeks early. My wife brought her overnight bag with her to the hospital when we went there for a non-stress test and an ultrasound. My daughter was born that day.

730 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:12:01am
731 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:12:10am

re: #626 lawhawk
Hi lawhawk - it's a puzzle to me too - all we'd need to do is send ONE aircraft carrier battle group out of the 10 we have for about a week or so and there would be no more piracy.
AND what I don't understand is why hasn't there been a fucking peep out of the UN about this?

732 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:12:17am

re: #728 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Don't forget yer flame retardant long johns!

733 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:12:18am

re: #712 Dirk Diggler

That was so bad...

734 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:12:18am

re: #716 Ford_Prefect

That's great. I have just one. A girl. I'll tell, as soon as you look at her you will know with no uncertainty that no one will ever be good enough for her. No, Dorian, not even you.


Scariest part? I'll be having Irish Twins. My third boy will be 10 months old next week. Apparently, we were the only people on Earth who thought you couldn't get pregnant after you just had a baby!

Seems the opposite is true. Oops!

735 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:12:49am

re: #722 Wyatt Earp

I will. At work now, but ready to run out at a moment's notice.

I was 3 weeks overdue with my first. People started to call and inquire 3 weeks prior to my due date "Anything?" This went on for 6 weeks until the doctor induced me - and we had an overripe baby girl who is now having her first in July. She's married and graduated from college so we're A-ok.

736 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:13:33am

re: #729 Ford_Prefect

My daughter was born 10 weeks early. My wife brought her overnight bag with her to the hospital when we went there for a non-stress test and an ultrasound. My daughter was born that day.

My first son was six weeks early. Was on a heart and lung monitor for two months. Terribly stressful time.

737 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:13:40am

re: #723 scottishbuzzsaw

LOL! He's not going to take that well. ;>)

It's OK. She is only two and a half anyway. And once she hits her teen years I intend to lock her in her room until she is thirty. By then Dorian will hopefully have found someone to take pity on him and marry him. // :-)

738 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:13:48am

re: #731 realwest
Hell, the Russians are there, the US, France. A surface action group could wipe those idiots out. The UN is probably getting kickbacks from the ransom money.

739 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:14:14am

re: #734 Wyatt Earp

Scariest part? I'll be having Irish Twins. My third boy will be 10 months old next week. Apparently, we were the only people on Earth who thought you couldn't get pregnant after you just had a baby!

Seems the opposite is true. Oops!

Sheesh, after each of our kids, my wife used fool-proof birth control. She'd slap the hell outta me if I tried anything, and I could tell she wasn't fooling.

/

740 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:14:34am

re: #735 DistantThunder

I was 3 weeks overdue with my first. People started to call and inquire 3 weeks prior to my due date "Anything?" This went on for 6 weeks until the doctor induced me - and we had an overripe baby girl who is now having her first in July. She's married and graduated from college so we're A-ok.

My first and only was overcooked, too, by over two weeks...10lbs 6oz...his cry was an octave lower than all the other babies in the nursery!

741 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:15:03am

We have Irish twins - one is adopted - the next born 8 months later.

742 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:15:22am

re: #643 pingjockey
The NY Giants may act before the NFL does. I hope so, cause Plaxie isn't gonna go to jail for anything.
That's just the way it is.

743 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:15:47am

re: #653 realwest

Ah thanks {aussie} I had thought you had said Julie had developed some sort of medical problem recently - glad to know I was wrong!

{Realwest}

It's after 2am and I left off half my post to you - thanks for asking - you're so thoughtful

How are you doing? Better than your computer I hope!

I thought of your Mum today - I'm putting together little info packages to give to our newly diagnosed diabetics - and there seem to a lot of people diagnosed with diabetes these days

744 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:16:04am

re: #742 realwest
Yep. I hate that crap. "I'm so special". Bullshit.

745 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:16:05am

re: #706 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, FrogMarch...good to see you, too...how have you been?


No complaints. and you?

I'm listening to Fred. I love Fred.

746 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:16:23am

re: #737 Ford_Prefect

It's OK. She is only two and a half anyway. And once she hits her teen years I intend to lock her in her room until she is thirty. By then Dorian will hopefully have found someone to take pity on him and marry him. // :-)

ROTFL!

747 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:16:24am

re: #740 scottishbuzzsaw

My first and only was overcooked, too, by over two weeks...10lbs 6oz...his cry was an octave lower than all the other babies in the nursery!

LOL - our daughter looked us right in the eyes and just stared at us - like she knew who we were. We were shocked by how alert and calm and inquisitive she was.

748 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:16:24am

re: #741 DistantThunder

We have Irish twins - one is adopted - the next born 8 months later.

That was my friend Leo and his sister. They were in the same grade and hated each other. He was adopted, and apparently that "relaxed" something then bingo! a girl.

749 notutopia  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:16:29am

re: #655 SurferDoc

Notice I did Capitalize ........ was NOT CONDUCTED BY CLINICIANS, to make the mental illness diagnoses, they used criteria in a version of DSM designed for lay people........

: )

750 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:16:38am

re: #736 Wyatt Earp

My first son was six weeks early. Was on a heart and lung monitor for two months. Terribly stressful time.

You ain't kidding. She was in the NICU for eight weeks. On breathing machines for three weeks, and they didn't tell us until later that normally anything over four or five days is not a good sign. However, she is now very healthy. Her doctor tells us you would never know she was a premie.

751 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:16:47am

re: #717 realwest

Thanks for the tips my friend, but believe it or not, I DO know how to handle "recalcitrant" businesses!

The really bad part is that I really can't reach my oncologist before 10:00AM or after 5:00PM or at all on weekends except by e-mail. I've let Best Buy know that, forced Double Agent that was here Saturday to let me read what he was putting in his report, made a couple of "minor" corrections, and after he sent it I had him print out a hard copy of what he sent. He wasn't unhappy to do it as he thinks Best Buy is sticking it to me too.
Having that part fall off the "new" motherboard (the second one they sent to me) really got me going.

Sorry to hear about your continuing computer problems...as you said, if they would live up to their obligations everyone's BP would drop. These problems are not good for your current health. With your experience I know can handle this situation...best of luck.

752 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:17:10am

Why are the MFM giving Chopra all this attention? Does he have a new book out to promote?

753 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:18:15am

re: #725 DistantThunder

No flowers either I bet.

Nope...what blew me away was the UPS delivery, but I'm paying for it.

754 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:18:16am

re: #752 MandyManners

Why are the MFM giving Chopra all this attention? Does he have a new book out to promote?

Probably the only "Indian" person they could think of.

Wouldn't want to interview any of the actual Indian authorities or anything.

755 Nevergiveup  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:18:22am

re: #652 pingjockey

Chemical Ali sentenced to death for the 2nd time.

What do they do? Drop him from only a very short distance, throw water on his face and then do it again from a higher vertical drop?
/

756 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:18:25am

re: #742 realwest

The NY Giants may act before the NFL does. I hope so, cause Plaxie isn't gonna go to jail for anything.
That's just the way it is.

I actually think he will end up doing some time... Bloomberg is not going to stand for this...

757 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:18:25am

re: #646 SurferDoc
Sigh. I know and I'm sorry but I am SO PISSED about this I can't begin to tell you. But I shouldn't let my temper let me type an answer like that to you - except that THEY ARE supposed to be the professionals and by darn if the power supply shouda been checked they should have check it, ya know.
Again, I apologize for the tone and some of the content of my post.

758 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:18:41am

re: #739 OldLineTexan

Sheesh, after each of our kids, my wife used fool-proof birth control. She'd slap the hell outta me if I tried anything, and I could tell she wasn't fooling.

/


Wife's fault. She had gestational diabetes and lost a lost of weight afterward. I was on Weight Watchers and lost a lot, too. We were full o' energy, and she came downstairs wearing a hockey jersey, and . . . well, I've said too much. :)

759 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:18:51am

re: #753 jorline

Nope...what blew me away was the UPS delivery, but I'm paying for it.

Send them a nice fish dinner as a thank-you.

/

760 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:19:36am

re: #691 realwest

Good morning RW, remind me to never buy whatever kind of computer you are using :)

761 Golem Akbar  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:20:22am

Good morning Lizardia.
Very foggy here in (usually) sunny L.A. Check out the view from above.

762 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:20:44am

re: #745 FrogMarch

No complaints. and you?

I'm listening to Fred. I love Fred.

All's fine here...and I was so disappointed when Fred dropped out of the race...first choice.

763 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:21:09am

re: #756 tfc3rid

I actually think he will end up doing some time... Bloomberg is not going to stand for this...

As long as he wasn't doing something eveil - like smoking in a restauraunt - Bloomberg won't get involved.

764 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:21:25am

re: #657 tfc3rid
Let us pray that he doesn't see that bonus. He has, in addition to shooting himself in the leg, been a locker room cancer and the Giants have won two straight without him - screw him (h/t Kos) and his bonus.

765 Golem Akbar  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:21:30am

re: #729 Ford_Prefect

My daughter was born 10 weeks early. My wife brought her overnight bag with her to the hospital when we went there for a non-stress test and an ultrasound. My daughter was born that day.

Congratulations. May she be healthy and live a long and productive life!

766 DisturbedEma  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:21:33am

re: #566 aussiemagpie

Not sure what you mean by this?

What's going on in Canada?

767 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:21:58am

re: #749 notutopia

Notice I did Capitalize ........ was NOT CONDUCTED BY CLINICIANS, to make the mental illness diagnoses, they used criteria in a version of DSM designed for lay people........

: )

Yes, I sure did notice and I appreciated it. I've been in the field for 28 years and crap studies hyped by the media drive me up the wall.

768 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:22:01am

re: #748 OldLineTexan

That was my friend Leo and his sister. They were in the same grade and hated each other. He was adopted, and apparently that "relaxed" something then bingo! a girl.

We held our daughter back a year since she had a September birthday - she just started college at 19 - which was a good thing.

769 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:22:33am

re: #759 OldLineTexan

Send them a nice fish dinner as a thank-you.

/

Great idea! I'll contact Rahm Emanuel for suggestions on what fish should be sent.

770 aussiemagpie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:22:46am

re: #701 Ford_Prefect

Aussiemagpie, the tool belt just passed over your way. Did you see it?

LOL! Missed it!

771 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:22:53am

re: #753 jorline

Nope...what blew me away was the UPS delivery, but I'm paying for it.

That want you to have only the best - with your money.

772 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:23:07am

re: #761 Golem Akbar

I love that kind of view. I do a hike to a local mountain, and on foggy days that is the type of vista I get at the top. You are shrouded in cool fog, climbing, heaving, etc. and then all of sudden, voila, a big vista opens up. It makes me thankful for my legs.

773 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:23:26am

re: #757 realwest

Sigh. I know and I'm sorry but I am SO PISSED about this I can't begin to tell you. But I shouldn't let my temper let me type an answer like that to you - except that THEY ARE supposed to be the professionals and by darn if the power supply shouda been checked they should have check it, ya know.
Again, I apologize for the tone and some of the content of my post.

No problem. Heck, I'm frustrated over it and I'm only reading about it!

774 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:23:28am

re: #664 Occasional Reader
and JacksonTn if you read the link to that story, Jobs specifically mentions a few programs to use - only one I remember was Norton 11.

775 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:23:52am

re: #755 Nevergiveup
There's a thought. Or just give him to the Kurds!

776 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:23:52am

re: #765 Golem Akbar

Congratulations. May she be healthy and live a long and productive life!

Thank you.

777 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:24:20am

re: #769 jorline

Great idea! I'll contact Rahm Emanuel for suggestions on what fish should be sent.

Ask him how you too can get a 503(c) designation and not pay property taxes on your home since it is the location of your "Family Foundation" to which you give charitable contributions.

The guy is a shark.

778 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:24:21am

re: #763 DeafDog

As long as he wasn't doing something eveil - like smoking in a restauraunt - Bloomberg won't get involved.

Bloomberg has already chimed in and is VERY angry at the hospital (who is supposed to tell the police whenever there is a gunshot wound), the Giants (for not telling them) and has said that Burress must suffer the consequences of illegal gun actions...

779 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:24:32am

re: #754 OldLineTexan

Probably the only "Indian" person they could think of.

Wouldn't want to interview any of the actual Indian authorities or anything.

Why is Fox falling for that crap?

780 Golem Akbar  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:24:40am

re: #772 rawmuse

I love that kind of view. I do a hike to a local mountain, and on foggy days that is the type of vista I get at the top. You are shrouded in cool fog, climbing, heaving, etc. and then all of sudden, voila, a big vista opens up. It makes me thankful for my legs.


Me too!

781 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:24:42am

re: #671 3 wood
Good morning 3 wood - other than worrying over the markets, how are you today?

782 Dustoff-507  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:24:46am

OK, what in the hell is going on this fine morning? I see Realwest is giving Bestbuy hell again! LOL

Get them buddy.

783 pingjockey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:24:56am

Later folks. Y'all try and have a good day!

784 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:24:58am

re: #760 rawmuse

Good morning RW, remind me to never buy whatever kind of computer you are using :)

G_t_w_y is CR_P.

785 DisturbedEma  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:25:01am

re: #734 Wyatt Earp

Scariest part? I'll be having Irish Twins. My third boy will be 10 months old next week. Apparently, we were the only people on Earth who thought you couldn't get pregnant after you just had a baby!

Seems the opposite is true. Oops!

Be of good cheer. . .I thought you could not get pregnant while nursing. . .D'OH!

My bad. . .:)

786 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:25:21am

re: #771 DistantThunder

That want you to have only the best - with your money.

I hear ya, DT. When the government takes over health care premium increases will come by Pony Express.

787 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:25:24am

re: #778 tfc3rid

Bloomberg has already chimed in and is VERY angry at the hospital (who is supposed to tell the police whenever there is a gunshot wound), the Giants (for not telling them) and has said that Burress must suffer the consequences of illegal gun actions...

Correct, correct, and correct.

788 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:25:41am

re: #771 DistantThunder

That want you to have only the best - with your money.

Eh, that's ok, once Universal Health Care takes effect that's more money in your pocket... Until the government takes it away with higher taxes...

789 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:25:58am

re: #785 DisturbedEma

Be of good cheer. . .I thought you could not get pregnant while nursing. . .D'OH!

My bad. . .:)

Yeah, BIG D'oh! :)

790 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:26:20am

re: #768 DistantThunder

We held our daughter back a year since she had a September birthday - she just started college at 19 - which was a good thing.

My son has a late September birthday, so he missed Texas' 9/1 cut-off and is therefore one of the older kids in his grade. It has worked out well, IMO.

791 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:26:36am

re: #777 DistantThunder

Ask him how you too can get a 503(c) designation and not pay property taxes on your home since it is the location of your "Family Foundation" to which you give charitable contributions.

The guy is a shark.

lol...ding

792 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:27:13am

re: #779 MandyManners

Why is Fox falling for that crap?

FNC had him on because of his comments to CNN... O'Reilly's TP Memo last night blasted Chopra...

As O'Reilly at some points loved Obama, he was very clear last night in saying that with the National Security Team trotted out yesterday, he feels less safe than under Pres. Bush...

793 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:27:24am

re: #773 SurferDoc

No problem. Heck, I'm frustrated over it and I'm only reading about it!

Same here. Perhaps we could raise up a Lizard Army armed with cluebats to administer motivation until they once and for all fix realwest's computer?

794 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:27:26am

re: #779 MandyManners

Why is Fox falling for that crap?

Lazy producers, IMO. Knee-jerk television, not "journalism"/ The fact that hard news does not sell, and they are in the business for money. Just off the top of my head.

795 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:27:29am

re: #766 DisturbedEma

What's going on in Canada?

Well, this should get you started. We just had an election too.

/pricks.

796 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:27:54am

re: #754 OldLineTexan

Probably the only "Indian" person they could think of.

Wouldn't want to interview any of the actual Indian authorities or anything.

They could have - literally - interviewed the owner of the Indian restaurant up the street from me, and gotten a more informed opinion than they did from ol' Deepak "Hitler was just a failure of our collective conciousness" Chopra.

797 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:28:27am

re: #769 jorline

Great idea! I'll contact Rahm Emanuel for suggestions on what fish should be sent.

One piece of cooked fish rotted in a box should taste about the same as the next, I would think. Use something cheap.

798 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:28:57am

re: #796 Occasional Reader

Deepak "Hitler was just a failure of our collective conciousness" Chopra.

You've got to be kidding?

799 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:29:20am

re: #793 scottishbuzzsaw

Same here. Perhaps we could raise up a Lizard Army armed with cluebats to administer motivation until they once and for all fix realwest's computer?

We could have walked to his house and fixed it ourselves by now!

800 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:29:34am

re: #796 Occasional Reader

They could have - literally - interviewed the owner of the Indian restaurant up the street from me, and gotten a more informed opinion than they did from ol' Deepak "Hitler was just a failure of our collective conciousness" Chopra.

There are some really smart, well-spoken Indian folks at my job that I know. Heck, some of them grew up in India and keep up with the old country. None of them are moonbats.

801 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:29:36am

BTW... Georgia Lizards... Save our Republic!

Alan Colmes played a nice game of gotcha last night with Saxby Chambliss over the definition of a recession... Apparently Chambliss did not know the 'definition' of recession on Fox News Sunday and Colmes beat him over the head with it...

802 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:29:49am

re: #719 jorline
Can y'all find another insurer? I mean one who wouldn't exclude "pre-existing" conditions? 24% is outrageous!

803 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:29:56am

re: #796 Occasional Reader

They could have - literally - interviewed the owner of the Indian restaurant up the street from me, and gotten a more informed opinion than they did from ol' Deepak "Hitler was just a failure of our collective conciousness" Chopra.

If you believe in karma, then you don't have to acknowledge the existence of evil - or your own responsibility to stop evil. It's why India has few qualms about it's ocean of "untouchables." They deserve it. Karma. I feel better already.

804 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:30:04am

re: #799 SurferDoc

We could have walked to his house and fixed it ourselves by now!

No kidding.

805 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:30:17am

re: #762 scottishbuzzsaw

All's fine here...and I was so disappointed when Fred dropped out of the race...first choice.

I hear ya.
Fred is a likable common sense guy. My kind of guy. He has too much common sense to be part of our ridiculous ineffective inept/clueless government.

806 jcm  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:31:07am

re: #785 DisturbedEma

Be of good cheer. . .I thought you could not get pregnant while nursing. . .D'OH!

My bad. . .:)

My adopted sons are 10 months apart..........

807 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:31:17am

re: #795 BlueCanuck

Well, this should get you started. We just had an election too.

/pricks.


What?! You're less than enthusiastic about seeing your country led by this guy?

Hey, just because he can't understand a simple hypothetical question doesn't mean you have the right to judge him, you hater!

/

808 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:31:26am

re: #799 SurferDoc

We could have walked to his house and fixed it ourselves by now!

Ain't that the truth.

809 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:31:27am

re: #796 Occasional Reader

"Hitler was just a failure of our collective conciousness."

He is obviously smoking crack.

810 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:31:40am

Just once we should try electing someone via the phonebook. Anyone with a criminal record would be disqualified which would eliminate many career politicians.

811 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:32:06am

re: #810 DistantThunder

Just once we should try electing someone via the phonebook. Anyone with a criminal record would be disqualified which would eliminate many career politicians.

60 Million people just did...

812 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:32:08am

re: #798 scottishbuzzsaw

You've got to be kidding?

I recall a quote from him to that effect from Bill Maher's old show.

813 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:32:14am

re: #778 tfc3rid

I stand corrected.

Side note - The Deafdog political corrallary stats: A politician's willingness to offer a solution to an issue is in inverse proportion to the number of people who are impacted by the issue. Meaning that if an issue affects many, politicians will shy away from offering solutions, but they will be quick to apportion blame away from them. If the issue impacts only one or two folks, politicians will jump in with solutions.

Since this is a minor issue (affecting only one person) the politician (bloomberg) will feel the need to jump in an fix it.

814 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:32:25am

re: #809 Wyatt Earp

"Hitler was just a failure of our collective conciousness."

He is obviously smoking crack.

Speaking of smoking cracks, maybe he could toss himself into a volcano as placation to the Universal Consciousness.

/just a thought

815 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:32:36am
"The real gamble in this election is playing the same Washington game with the same Washington players and expecting a different result."

-Barack Obama, December 27, 2007


bwaaahaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa *sigh*

816 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:32:40am

re: #737 Ford_Prefect
Now that wasn't very nice Ford - funny as hell - but not very nice! LOL!

817 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:33:15am

re: #790 OldLineTexan

My son has a late September birthday, so he missed Texas' 9/1 cut-off and is therefore one of the older kids in his grade. It has worked out well, IMO.

Good for you, OLT. My son's was born on the 4th of August and we held him back in pre-kinder...best thing we ever did. He is now the oldest in his 8th grade class and has helped with his maturity level as well.

818 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:33:19am

re: #807 Occasional Reader

Stupid part is their are having a leadership convention in MAY!
Why the hell did they have to pull this stunt now. A lefty party, supported by socialists, propped up by separatists. How can it go wrong?

/more like when will it. . . . . .

819 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:33:22am

re: #803 DistantThunder

If you believe in karma, then you don't have to acknowledge the existence of evil - or your own responsibility to stop evil. It's why India has few qualms about it's ocean of "untouchables." They deserve it. Karma. I feel better already.

Of course I believe in Karma. Mine currently stands at 18,437, to be exact.

820 Alouette  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:33:31am

In addition to murdering 200 innocent, helpless human beings, Mumbai monsters also deface a Torah scroll.

Remember this the next time somebody complains that a Koran was disrespected.

821 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:34:15am

re: #815 FrogMarch

-Barack Obama, December 27, 2007


bwaaahaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa *sigh*

Until he got that security briefing and Obama figures he needs as many republicans and centrists around him as political human shields to take the incoming fire.

822 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:34:22am

re: #676 Wyatt Earp

re: #668 ploome hineni

I didn;t know you were a detective!

how is your wife doing?

Ready for this: She went to the doctor's today and they told her she's 4cm dilated. She's due on January 3rd, but like the last three kids, I'm betting she'll be early! :)

And yes, I am a detective in the Philly PD. Best job in the world.

Congrats from another dad of 4. Did W.E.B. Griffin do a decent job of describing (albeit with more action and drama, I'm sure) your dept. and city?

823 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:34:34am

re: #814 OldLineTexan

Speaking of smoking cracks, maybe he could toss himself into a volcano as placation to the Universal Consciousness.

/just a thought

We could tell everyone he's a virgin to appease the gods.

824 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:34:34am

re: #805 FrogMarch

I hear ya.
Fred is a likable common sense guy. My kind of guy. He has too much common sense to be part of our ridiculous ineffective inept/clueless government.

And there's the rub. Those who could do the greatest good want no part of the insanity.

825 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:34:35am

re: #810 DistantThunder

Just once we should try electing someone via the phonebook. Anyone with a criminal record would be disqualified which would eliminate many career politicians.

Bill Buckely Jr. famously said that he'd rather be governed by the first 500 names in the Boston telephone directory than by the faculty of Harvard.

826 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:34:36am

re: #792 tfc3rid

FNC had him on because of his comments to CNN... O'Reilly's TP Memo last night blasted Chopra...

As O'Reilly at some points loved Obama, he was very clear last night in saying that with the National Security Team trotted out yesterday, he feels less safe than under Pres. Bush...

Did Hannity blast him, too?

827 acwgusa  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:34:38am

re: #603 Wyatt Earp

Burress is a professional. A professional knucklehead.

I have to admit, the image in my head of Plaxico shooting himself in the thigh has me cracking up here in my office. My coworkers think I am quite mad.

/Bang! Ow! Hop. OW! Hop. OWW! Hop.

/Forget Jail time, someone see if the the video is on Youtube.

828 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:34:50am

re: #724 tfc3rid

The standard lefty talking point: "They hate us because they are poor."

It doesn't pass the laugh test.

829 Dustoff-507  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:34:51am

re: #816 realwest


HEY... I thought it was funny too. (-:

/time to hide.

830 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:34:56am

re: #751 jorline
Thanks jorline - but I notice you didn't answer my question as to how YOU are doing? Any samples from the doc?

831 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:35:00am

Buckely = Buckley

832 vapig  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:35:19am

OT: Remember that anchor that asked Biden the tough questions? Well, WFTV anchor, Barbara West has been fired.

Cant find an article about this yet, but I've already heard it on the radio this morning.

Nice to know our media is taking the appropriate steps NOT to offend our annointed leader.

833 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:35:36am

re: #794 OldLineTexan

Lazy producers, IMO. Knee-jerk television, not "journalism"/ The fact that hard news does not sell, and they are in the business for money. Just off the top of my head.

tfc3rid gave me a pretty good perspective but, I just wish people would ignore the asshole.

834 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:36:13am

re: #816 realwest

Now that wasn't very nice Ford - funny as hell - but not very nice! LOL!

He was lamenting earlier about being single and never married, and about how he would like to have some little greylettes running around. I was just trying to send out positive vibes for him, that's all. ;-)

835 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:36:13am

re: #734 Wyatt Earp

Scariest part? I'll be having Irish Twins. My third boy will be 10 months old next week. Apparently, we were the only people on Earth who thought you couldn't get pregnant after you just had a baby!

Seems the opposite is true. Oops!

Didn't see this before. We have Irish triplets! 3 boys born in 12 months. Really threw us for a loop, but we've adapted and they've thrived.

836 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:36:14am

re: #828 FrogMarch

The standard lefty talking point: "They hate us because they are poor."

It doesn't pass the laugh test.

That's right. The rich Saudis like us because they can buy us off.

837 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:36:23am

re: #796 Occasional Reader

They could have - literally - interviewed the owner of the Indian restaurant up the street from me, and gotten a more informed opinion than they did from ol' Deepak "Hitler was just a failure of our collective conciousness" Chopra.

He's said that? WTF is his problem? What's he say about Israel?

838 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:36:36am

re: #760 rawmuse
DON'T EVER BUY ANYTHING FROM BEST BUY! NEVER!

839 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:36:50am

re: #828 FrogMarch

The standard lefty talking point: "They hate us because they are poor."

I spent a good deal of my life poor. That whole time somehow it never occurred to me to go on a killing rampage.

840 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:36:51am

re: #822 Spenser (with an S)

Congrats from another dad of 4. Did W.E.B. Griffin do a decent job of describing (albeit with more action and drama, I'm sure) your dept. and city?

Yes, he did a good job. Better than most. In our division, we tell everyone our job is most like Barney Miller. That show was so accurate that it's scary.

841 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:37:03am

re: #831 Occasional Reader

Buckely = Buckley

Twenty points off for not showing your work, Mr. OR.

842 Dustoff-507  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:37:10am

re: #832 vapig


What are they going to do when the US really goes into a crapper. 0-:

843 jorline  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:37:33am

re: #802 realwest

Can y'all find another insurer? I mean one who wouldn't exclude "pre-existing" conditions? 24% is outrageous!

We're looking. I'm a part of the Texas Restaurant Association and they have several pools and insurance companies. I'm also looking at adjusting my benefit package. My new health issues aren't helping matters right now.

844 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:37:41am

re: #832 vapig

OT: Remember that anchor that asked Biden the tough questions? Well, WFTV anchor, Barbara West has been fired.

Cant find an article about this yet, but I've already heard it on the radio this morning.

Nice to know our media is taking the appropriate steps NOT to offend our annointed leader.

That's sickening. The blacklisting continues unabated. Obama and his team of political predators is behind this - even if they are self-deputized.

845 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:37:49am

re: #837 MandyManners

He's said that? WTF is his problem? What's he say about Israel?

His problem is that he's a moron (at least in the functional sense). No idea what he's said about Israel, and I'm not sure I want to know.

846 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:38:08am

re: #815 FrogMarch

Wow... Change You Can Believe In!

847 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:38:35am

re: #775 pingjockey
I said above that hanging is too good for Chemical Ali - he should die the same way those poor Kurds did.

848 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:39:02am

I just got off the phone after a half-hour with my Mom, which is why i haven't answered anyone's questions. Here's the story. Sometime in October she came down with an h. pylori infection, which made her sick to her stomach. The antibiotics prescribed made her feel worse, so she didn't take them. Since she didn't take that batch of antibiotics, the infection didn't clear up, so she had to go back on another course of antibiotics, which wiped out her intestinal flora, making for frequent bowel movements. All this is bad enough, but when she was prescribed the antibiotics, the pharmacist told her to not take her anti-cholesteral medicine with them. She extrapolated that to mean: don't take any other medicine with them, so she stopped taking her anti-depressants! So she's basically been having a panic attack for the last two weeks - afraid of everything, not eating well, just in a bad state all around.
Saturday night I couldn't take seeing her like that anymore & took her to the ER. She had a CAT scan done & everything came up clear, thank God. But she's only now getting back on her antidepressants, which she had been off of for over a month & I've only now started giving her probiotics to replenish her GI flora. I'm taking her to see her pyschiatrist today & am making an appointment to see a GI specialist, but she's so scared of not being able to pay the medical bills. It's very confusing to figure out what Medicare pays, what her Medicare HMO pays & what she has to pay. I'm doing everything I can to try to get some extra money together - anyone want to buy a Wayne Gretzky rookie card? - but it's just a real mess around here. Please keep me & my Mom in your prayers. Thanks.

849 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:39:11am

I don't believe in Karma as much as I believe in Kimber.

850 DisturbedEma  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:39:29am

re: #795 BlueCanuck

Well, this should get you started. We just had an election too.

/pricks.

Wow! I am not up on how you all do things. . .what are your options?

851 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:39:38am

re: #848 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I just got off the phone after a half-hour with my Mom, which is why i haven't answered anyone's questions. Here's the story. Sometime in October she came down with an h. pylori infection, which made her sick to her stomach. The antibiotics prescribed made her feel worse, so she didn't take them. Since she didn't take that batch of antibiotics, the infection didn't clear up, so she had to go back on another course of antibiotics, which wiped out her intestinal flora, making for frequent bowel movements. All this is bad enough, but when she was prescribed the antibiotics, the pharmacist told her to not take her anti-cholesteral medicine with them. She extrapolated that to mean: don't take any other medicine with them, so she stopped taking her anti-depressants! So she's basically been having a panic attack for the last two weeks - afraid of everything, not eating well, just in a bad state all around.
Saturday night I couldn't take seeing her like that anymore & took her to the ER. She had a CAT scan done & everything came up clear, thank God. But she's only now getting back on her antidepressants, which she had been off of for over a month & I've only now started giving her probiotics to replenish her GI flora. I'm taking her to see her pyschiatrist today & am making an appointment to see a GI specialist, but she's so scared of not being able to pay the medical bills. It's very confusing to figure out what Medicare pays, what her Medicare HMO pays & what she has to pay. I'm doing everything I can to try to get some extra money together - anyone want to buy a Wayne Gretzky rookie card? - but it's just a real mess around here. Please keep me & my Mom in your prayers. Thanks.

Prayers being sent as I write.

852 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:39:43am

re: #826 MandyManners

Did Hannity blast him, too?

He tried. Could barely get a word in edgewise... Has Chopra in a segment with William Cohen...

853 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:39:47am

re: #835 Spenser (with an S)

Didn't see this before. We have Irish triplets! 3 boys born in 12 months. Really threw us for a loop, but we've adapted and they've thrived.

If not adopted, how is that possible?

854 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:40:09am

re: #779 MandyManners
"Why is Fox falling for that crap?" Easier than actually investigating themselves.

855 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:40:22am

re: #828 FrogMarch

The standard lefty talking point: "They hate us because they are poor."

It doesn't pass the laugh test.

#Exactly... It's more like 'They hate us because they are barbarians.'

856 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:40:24am

re: #815 FrogMarch

-Barack Obama, December 27, 2007


bwaaahaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa *sigh*


He said that in the heat of the campaign.

/like all of his campaign promises that will soon be broken.

857 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:40:52am

re: #848 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Thoughts with you and your mom. And good for you for standing by her like this.

858 vapig  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:40:53am

re: #842 Dustoff-507

What are they going to do when the US really goes into a crapper. 0-:

Make us "feel good" about it.

859 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:41:05am

re: #848 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

{BDVM}

860 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:41:09am

re: #850 DisturbedEma

Well if they don't sort it out up in Ottawa. . . . . . .

/anybody got some spare KY they ain't needing?

861 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:41:11am

re: #845 Occasional Reader

His problem is that he's a moron (at least in the functional sense). No idea what he's said about Israel, and I'm not sure I want to know.

I bet he's called them Nazis somewhere, and has compared the security procedures to the Berlin Wall. Oh, and compared the nation to South Africa.

862 realwest  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:41:21am

re: #782 Dustoff-507
I will as soon as I take care of other things, still waiting for doc to call back and he comes FIRST.
How are you doing today my friend?

863 SteveC  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:42:02am

re: #838 realwest

DON'T EVER BUY ANYTHING FROM BEST BUY! NEVER!

We can all go home now, the truth has been spoken!

F*** Best Buy!

864 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:42:02am

re: #856 DeafDog

He said that in the heat of the campaign.

/like all of his campaign promises that will soon be broken.

I certainly HOPE he breaks them. If he KEEPS most of his campaign promises, then we're in real trouble.

865 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:42:38am

re: #801 tfc3rid

BTW... Georgia Lizards... Save our Republic!

Alan Colmes played a nice game of gotcha last night with Saxby Chambliss over the definition of a recession... Apparently Chambliss did not know the 'definition' of recession on Fox News Sunday and Colmes beat him over the head with it...

If he didn't know how a recession is defined, that's not good. I did send Saxby $25, by the way. Every little bit helps.

866 OldLineTexan  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:42:41am

re: #864 Occasional Reader

I certainly HOPE he breaks them. If he KEEPS most of his campaign promises, then we're in real trouble.

You said it. If he breaks most of his campaign promises, I can sleep better.

867 LindaMarie  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:42:43am

re: #640 notutopia

I vote for number 3.
Behind door number 3 is PC

868 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 7:42:50am

re: #848 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I just got off the phone after a half-hour with my Mom, which is why i haven't answered anyone's questions. Here's the story. Sometime in October she came down with an h. pylori infection, which made her sick to her stomach. The antibiotics prescribed made her feel worse, so she didn't take them. Since she didn't take that batch of antibiotics, the infection didn't clear up, so she had to go back on another course of antibiotics, which wiped out her intestinal flora, making for frequent bowel movements. All this is bad enough, but when she was prescribed the antibiotics, the pharmacist told her to not take her anti-cholesteral medi