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Open | Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:13:48 pm PST
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
— Dan Quayle
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Open | Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:13:48 pm PST
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
— Dan Quayle
1290 comments
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Sharmuta Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:15:40pm |
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
James Carville and Dick Morris come to mind.
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Silvergirl Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:16:23pm |
Happy tomorrow.
Big events in history on Dec 2
[Link: www.infoplease.com...]
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Sharmuta Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:16:30pm |
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
Don't even get me started on Mohammed.
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Abu Bin Squid Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:17:32pm |
How about all the appointees who've managed to crawl out from under the bus?
/Rev. Wright! Are you in there?
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:17:35pm |
re: #2 Sharmuta
James Carville and Dick Morris come to mind.
I think it's Carville's voice. I don't like his political leanings but he's got a great voice.
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Sharmuta Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:20:01pm |
re: #7 Badge of Kaffir Pride
I think it's Carville's voice. I don't like his political leanings but he's got a great voice.
It's not his mug, that's for sure.
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Abu Bin Squid Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:21:00pm |
As wrong as it is for a man to say another is handsome, I must confess Carville is ugly and then some.
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:21:02pm |
re: #8 Sharmuta
It's not his mug, that's for sure.
I thought, when I first arrived here, that that was who y'all meant by referring to Skeletor...
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redc1c4 Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:22:03pm |
it's obvious Dan foresaw Juggy taking office.
/and yet the media said he was st00pid...... %-)
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Abu Bin Squid Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:22:24pm |
re: #10 Badge of Kaffir Pride
I thought, when I first arrived here, that that was who y'all meant by referring to Skeletor...
Rumor is he might replace Colmes. Or some babe would be nice, politics nothwithstanding.
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gmsc Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:23:01pm |
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:23:53pm |
re: #12 Abu Bin Squid
Rumor is he might replace Colmes. Or some babe would be nice, politics nothwithstanding.
First you'd have to find a babe who's left leaning and isn't in Hollywood.
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Sharmuta Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:24:21pm |
re: #9 Abu Bin Squid
As wrong as it is for a man to say another is handsome, I must confess Carville is ugly and then some.
I'm not one to pick on another person's looks either- but that right there- Carville and Colmes- is one heaping pile of ugly.
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Abu Bin Squid Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:25:58pm |
re: #15 Sharmuta
I'm not one to pick on another person's looks either- but that right there- Carville and Colmes- is one heaping pile of ugly.
And doubly clueless.
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SurferDoc Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:26:38pm |
*Runs in from the Jindal thread, hair on fire, grabs a pitcher of beer and pours it over his head*
Hi, Lizards!
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:27:42pm |
re: #17 SurferDoc
*Runs in from the Jindal thread, hair on fire, grabs a pitcher of beer and pours it over his head*
Hi, Lizards!
Spicolli, how are you?
/
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realwest Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:30:13pm |
re: #17 SurferDoc
WAIT! You wasted all that beer?! Just cause your hair was on fire?!
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gmsc Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:30:33pm |
Activists Seek Revocation of Tax Exempt Status of Churches That Supported Prop 8
San Francisco Chronicle: Tax-Exempt Benefit Disputed in Prop. 8 Campaign, by Matthai Kuruvila:
In the wake of Proposition 8's passage, opponents are railing that churches that supported the ballot measure violated their tax-exempt status.
It's a common accusation at the now-weekly protests, gaining enough traction that Geoff Kors, a member of the No on 8 executive committee, said lawyers are investigating the issue. "The Mormon church overstepped its boundaries by being a tax-exempt organization," said Sharone Negev, 54, of San Francisco, who has gone to protests in San Francisco and the Mormon temple in Oakland. "They clearly are not supposed to be involved in political activities."
But interviews with experts and activists on the issue say Prop. 8 opponents should look elsewhere for reasons to criticize the measure's supporters. "They almost certainly have not violated their tax exemption," said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, the leading advocacy organization on the issue. "While the tax code has a zero tolerance for endorsements of candidates, the tax code gives wide latitude for churches to engage in discussions of policy matters and moral questions, including when posed as initiatives."
(Hat Tip: How Appealing.) See also Cain: CA Churches Will Not Lose Tax Exemptions for Performing Same-Sex Marriages If Prop 8 Fails (10/23/08).
Trivia: When Joseph Smith formed the Mormon Church, the US government repeatedly tried to prosecute them for polygamy, while Joseph Smith kept claiming freedom of religion.
Finally, the US government threatened to revoke the Mormon Church's tax-exempt status. Shortly after that, Joseph Smith reported having a vision that God told him polygamy was wrong.
It's a miracle!
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SurferDoc Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:31:07pm |
re: #22 realwest
WAIT! You wasted all that beer?! Just cause your hair was on fire?!
Oh, was that your beer? My beer is right here!
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realwest Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:32:09pm |
Well all y'all it's been interesting tonight - but it's WAAAY past my bedtime.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Good night, all.
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ledger1 Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:32:37pm |
The “Barack Obama Crash” continues:
DJI 8149.09 -679.95 (-7.70%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET
People’s 401Ks are turning into .401Ks
On the bright side, after a brief dead cat bounce the NYT is plunging.
New York Times Co. Class A (NYT) 6.97 -0.57 (-7.56%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET
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democast Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:38:30pm |
I usually post articles in the Spinoff-Links, not here in the dialogue, but your feedback could help me. Does anybody care whether I do or don't continue publishing? Does anybody like it? What do you get out of my publishing? Am I changing any minds? It seems like we keep slipping. As Steve Emerson writes today: "
Watching and reading the last 5 days of reports of the Mumbai attacks was an Alice in Wonderland experience. Even after an Islamic terrorist group took credit, TV anchors and reporters assiduously avoided the term Islamic terrorist. "
Obama keeps stocking-up on anti-Zionists who'll pariah-ify Israel and by proxy, Jewish people everywhere. Has it come to this - checkmate?
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LeePro Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:43:01pm |
re: #9 Abu Bin Squid
As wrong as it is for a man to say another is handsome, I must confess Carville is ugly and then some.
Carville and Colmes — both hatched from the same nest of snake eggs.
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gmsc Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:43:11pm |
re: #26 ledger1
The “Barack Obama Crash” continues:
DJI 8149.09 -679.95 (-7.70%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET
People’s 401Ks are turning into .401Ks
On the bright side, after a brief dead cat bounce the NYT is plunging.
New York Times Co. Class A (NYT) 6.97 -0.57 (-7.56%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET
Here's an interesting experiment:
Check out the Intrade US Presidential Election 2008 Historical Data. If you examine it closely, you'll notice that 0bama really starts to be considered a serious possibility as US President around Sept. 28-29 of this year.
OK, so let's check out how the Dow Jones Industrial Average has performed since that day.
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gmsc Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:45:51pm |
re: #30 gmsc
Here's an interesting experiment:
Check out the Intrade US Presidential Election 2008 Historical Data. If you examine it closely, you'll notice that 0bama really starts to be considered a serious possibility as US President around Sept. 28-29 of this year.
OK, so let's check out how the Dow Jones Industrial Average has performed since that day.
Also, notice by going back further, the market was comparatively stable (even though it was dropping slightly) up to that point.
However, since Barack 0bama has been considered a very real possibility as US President, the market has lost more than 25% of its value!
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:47:56pm |
re: #31 gmsc
Also, notice by going back further, the market was comparatively stable (even though it was dropping slightly) up to that point.
However, since Barack 0bama has been considered a very real possibility as US President, the market has lost more than 25% of its value!
Barack Obama: making stocks so cheap that even poor people can afford them. Share your stock!
/
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ledger1 Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:51:52pm |
re: #30 gmsc
Here's an interesting experiment:
Check out the Intrade US Presidential Election 2008 Historical Data. If you examine it closely, you'll notice that 0bama really starts to be considered a serious possibility as US President around Sept. 28-29 of this year.
OK, so let's check out how the Dow Jones Industrial Average has performed since that day.
It looks like as Obama gained in the poles with his “tax the 401ks” the stock market started to tank. And, after his win it went down faster. Well, crashed is a better word. The Wilshire 5000 has probably lost 3 trillion dollars due to Obama.
Gad, Obama is a wrecking ball.
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LeePro Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:53:40pm |
re: #32 Badge of Kaffir Pride
Barack Obama: making stocks so cheap that even poor people can afford them. Share your stock!
/
Yup. Thanks to B. Hussein, my portfolio now ↓ 38%
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:55:46pm |
re: #34 LeePro
Yup. Thanks to B. Hussein, my portfolio now ↓ 38%
Yeah, but just *think* of how you've helped other people with it! You've been very patriotic and stuff. Hope! Change!
/
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redc1c4 Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:56:36pm |
re: #17 SurferDoc
*Runs in from the Jindal thread, hair on fire, grabs a pitcher of beer and pours it over his head*
Hi, Lizards!
down dig for wasting beer.....
/sorry: it's in the rules. %-)
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ledger1 Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:56:40pm |
re: #34 LeePro
Mine is down about 9% since October - but it was 60% in cash at that time.
Thanks a lot Big 0!
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gmsc Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:57:41pm |
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redc1c4 Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:58:17pm |
re: #22 realwest
WAIT! You wasted all that beer?! Just cause your hair was on fire?!
that's why i down dinged him....
/party foul on the LNDT
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SurferDoc Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:59:09pm |
re: #36 redc1c4
down dig for wasting beer.....
/sorry: it's in the rules. %-)
I wrung out my shirt back into the pitcher!
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Mel Lono Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:59:34pm |
re: #32 Badge of Kaffir Pride
Share your stock!
Just made some good turkey stock for stew. Come and get it!
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redc1c4 Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:59:48pm |
re: #24 SurferDoc
Oh, was that your beer? My beer is right here!
funny.... the nurse said that was my urinal.....
hope you like Jeffewizzin. %-)
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:01:15am |
Mine was up by 3 or 4% last week, but that was basically with someone else's play money.
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stevieray Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:01:44am |
re: #28 democast
Keep publishing. I know its like banging your head against the wall, but the Obama honeymoon will end, the MSM will either report the failures and survive or stay in rah rah mode and die, and his brand of leftism will be as welcome as Carter's.
If he governs from the left, he will fail. That's what the left does.
To quote a tired old sports cliche... you gotta be in the game to win it.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:03:46am |
Another thing... when gas was going for $4+/gal, Øbama said he was OK with the idea of $5 gas, his only problem was how quickly the price got there. At this rate he's going to have to slap a 300% tax on it to realize his dream.
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:06:27am |
re: #45 Abu Al-Poopypants
Another thing... when gas was going for $4+/gal, Øbama said he was OK with the idea of $5 gas, his only problem was how quickly the price got there. At this rate he's going to have to slap a 300% tax on it to realize his dream.
Don't give him any ideas. ;)
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:08:00am |
Here's another story you're unlikely to hear on the nightly news, but it's very worth reading. A reasonable translation can be had here.
We have shared our daily life with two US units for quite a while - they are the first and fourth companies of a prestigious infantry battalion whose name I will withhold for the sake of military secrecy. To the common man it is a unit just like any other. But we live with them and got to know them, and we henceforth know that we have the honor to live with one of the most renowned units of the US Army - one that the movies brought to the public as series showing “ordinary soldiers thrust into extraordinary events”. Who are they, those soldiers from abroad, how is their daily life, and what support do they bring to the men of our OMLT every day ? Few of them belong to the Easy Company, the one the TV series focuses on. This one nowadays is named Echo Company, and it has become the support company.
...
We seldom hear any harsh word, and from 5 AM onwards the camp chores are performed in beautiful order and always with excellent spirit. A passing American helicopter stops near a stranded vehicle just to check that everything is alright; an American combat team will rush to support ours before even knowing how dangerous the mission is - from what we have been given to witness, the American soldier is a beautiful and worthy heir to those who liberated France and Europe.
To those who bestow us with the honor of sharing their combat outposts and who everyday give proof of their military excellence, to those who pay the daily tribute of America’s army’s deployment on Afghan soil, to those we owned this article, ourselves hoping that we will always remain worthy of them and to always continue hearing them say that we are all the same band of brothers”.
It would appear that, for some Frenchmen, the spirit of Lafayette is alive and well.
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:08:33am |
re: #33 ledger1
It looks like as Obama gained in the poles with his “tax the 401ks” the stock market started to tank. And, after his win it went down faster. Well, crashed is a better word. The Wilshire 5000 has probably lost 3 trillion dollars due to Obama.
Gad, Obama is a wrecking ball.
that's the call of the wrecking ball.....
sorry i couldn't find the good version. %-(
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NoSpam Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:09:21am |
re: #31 gmsc
At least it's looking like we'll have the filibuster, assuming of course that the republicans actually remember that they're supposed to STICK TOGETHER...
Also, I'd take Clinton 2.0 over Stalin Junior any day, and from the looks of things that's what we'll be getting. Will it suck? Yes, but it could be worse.
If nothing else, at least it will be entertaining.
/Not the good kind of entertaining, mind you, but sometimes it's quite satisfying to be like Nelson Muntz on the sidelines pointing your finger and yelling "Haw-haw!" as all hell breaks loose around you...
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LeePro Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:10:32am |
re: #43 Fenway_Nation
Mine was up by 3 or 4% last week, but that was basically with someone else's play money.
My ↓ 38% is since about this time last year (my portfolio's historical high point).
I don't usually pay that much attention to short term gains/losses. It's the overall picture that matters most to me.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:11:27am |
re: #49 NoSpam
At least it's looking like we'll have the filibuster, assuming of course that the republicans actually remember that they're supposed to STICK TOGETHER...
Also, I'd take Clinton 2.0 over Stalin Junior any day, and from the looks of things that's what we'll be getting. Will it suck? Yes, but it could be worse.
If nothing else, at least it will be entertaining.
/Not the good kind of entertaining, mind you, but sometimes it's quite satisfying to be like Nelson Muntz on the sidelines pointing your finger and yelling "Haw-haw!" as all hell breaks loose around you...
Interesting take. I agree, if we're going to have a bad president, Clinton 2.0 is preferably to Stalin Junior.
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:12:11am |
re: #49 NoSpam
At least it's looking like we'll have the filibuster, assuming of course that the republicans actually remember that they're supposed to STICK TOGETHER...
well, i'm guessing you can pretty much count on McLame going over the fence every chance he gets, and likely dragging one or more fools with him.
what we need is party discipline, and the RNC is not the folks who will provide that,
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:13:11am |
re: #50 SurferDoc
gmsc: Thanks for putting that up. Inspiring
You're welcome.
We need to remember to post good news every so often, too!
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NoSpam Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:13:49am |
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:13:55am |
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LeePro Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:14:26am |
re: #28 democast
Keep posting, democast!
This may very well be the only place some people even get a glimpse of the truth out there ! ! !
I know it seems futile sometimes, but if not us then WHO?
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LeePro Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:16:42am |
re: #40 SurferDoc
I wrung out my shirt back into the pitcher!
Eeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww ! ! !
% Þ
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NoSpam Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:18:00am |
re: #53 redc1c4
well, i'm guessing you can pretty much count on McLame going over the fence every chance he gets, and likely dragging one or more fools with him.
what we need is party discipline, and the RNC is not the folks who will provide that,
For McCain it's mostly on the immigration/bailout stuff. Yes, we are going to be stuck with massive bailouts, unfortunately.
Though I don't think the immigration stuff will fly...I don't really have a good reason for this other than my own personal feeling. I think it will probably get shoved to the back in favor of different shit-tastic offerings like healthcare.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:18:57am |
Øbama's Secretary of Defense is some Carter Administration National Security Council staffer.
:^)
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NoSpam Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:20:19am |
re: #56 gmsc
Hmmm . . . the toolbag is leaving China and heading into Mongolia now.
The Flying Tools!
It's a sign from the gods, symbolic of Obama's cabinet.
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ledger1 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:20:32am |
re: #38 gmsc
Mine's ↓ 30%.
When the Big 0 started with his “We will redistribute the wealth” theme I started selling. When he proposed taxing 401Ks and IRAs then I really put the pedal-to-the-metal and really started selling.
I am not going to buy until I hear better news on both those plans. Heck, I might as well invest in Chinese stocks. They probably have more of a free market compared to Zero’s economic redistribution plan. Further I am doubtful the big 0 can damage Chinese stocks. He can only wreck what he is close to.
I Don’t even want contemplate the limp response to an other terror attack from Zero ("Oh, we must look at the root cause, light a peace candle and negotiate through the UN…As President it is time we pay more to the UN.”).
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LeePro Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:24:53am |
re: #60 Abu Al-Poopypants
Øbama's Secretary of Defense is some Carter Administration National Security Council staffer.
:^)
He is also Bush's appointee (after Rummy), and seems to be doing a fair job in Iraq and Afghanistan...
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:26:28am |
re: #62 ledger1
I am not going to buy until I hear better news on both those plans. Heck, I might as well invest in Chinese stocks. They probably have more of a free market compared to Zero’s economic redistribution plan. Further I am doubtful the big 0 can damage Chinese stocks. He can only wreck what he is close to.
VICTORY THROUGH DEFEAT (Hat tip: Tim Blair)
Communism was meant to bring down capitalism. Instead:
China’s President has issued a rare warning to the Communist Party, telling officials the global economic crisis could shake its 59-year grip on power.
Capitalism wins even when it’s losing.
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NoSpam Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:27:16am |
re: #62 ledger1
The funny thing about China is, as long as you don't actively criticize the gov't, you can pretty much get away with whatever you want over there. I saw some pretty interesting things. I also stepped in an open industrial sewer while walking around.
Also, Mao has pretty much become like a mascot character to them, like a communist Mickey Mouse. I am amused by this.
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NoSpam Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:27:56am |
re: #63 Mel Lono
gmsc's the one who actually found the website.
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:28:00am |
re: #61 NoSpam
The Flying Tools!
It's a sign from the gods, symbolic of Obama's cabinet.
well, there goes another hour of my day.....
you bastard!
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:30:23am |
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:32:59am |
re: #68 redc1c4
well, there goes another hour of my day.....
you bastard!
If you follow it for 2 full hours, you'll see it go around the Earth!
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:36:55am |
re: #65 gmsc
Good find and the best news I've heard all day.
Welcome to the Hotel
A special treat for Californiaaaas.
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Fibonacci Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:37:24am |
And the sheeple bleat in unison:
Obaaaaah Ma.
Obaaaaah Ma.
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NoSpam Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:38:04am |
re: #71 gmsc
If you follow it for 2 full hours, you'll see it go around the Earth!
It's like that damn "Where is my airplane now?" screen that they have in some flights. Part of the reason I couldn't sleep on my last flight was beacuse the map's prominent display of my teeny little plane smack in the middle of the Pacific.
Yes. I know I'm floating a zillion miles above the Earth, kept in place by magic and fluid dynamics (mostly the magic). Please stop reminding me.
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NoSpam Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:38:48am |
re: #76 Fibonacci
As long as we don't hear any talk of Obama's promise to raise the chocolate ration to 20 grams, I think we'll come out of this one okay.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:41:09am |
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:43:34am |
re: #77 NoSpam
It's like that damn "Where is my airplane now?" screen that they have in some flights. Part of the reason I couldn't sleep on my last flight was beacuse the map's prominent display of my teeny little plane smack in the middle of the Pacific.
Yes. I know I'm floating a zillion miles above the Earth, kept in place by magic and fluid dynamics (mostly the magic). Please stop reminding me.
maintenance isn't magic.......
/unless you're a 3rd world sort.
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:44:54am |
re: #79 Mel Lono
Red.. did you see the stars/moon tonite?
and last night too.....
seems the man in the moon gets the Dow ticker........
biggest :( i've ever seen.
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:46:45am |
Had a link to this on an earlier thread...Passe Comitatus...
But Drudge beat me to it.
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LeePro Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:46:49am |
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:47:57am |
re: #82 redc1c4
Split the uprights from where I was. Very cool.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:50:27am |
re: #84 LeePro
¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n
'Nite, {Lizards}!
¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Good night!
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:50:55am |
re: #82 redc1c4
biggest :( i've ever seen.
funny, had some bad times very recently, but that never came through til now.
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:53:09am |
re: #88 Mel Lono
funny, had some bad times very recently, but that never came through til now.
make ya feel better, down in Oz and the ilk it's a happy face.
/just not my nature.
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shanec99 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:54:00am |
re: #4 Sharmuta
Don't even get me started on Mohammed.
There might be more appropriate adjectives to describe him... wierd is not the best among them.
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:54:57am |
re: #84 LeePro
¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n
'Nite, {Lizards}!
¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
yuck..... she drools in her sleep.
/grody to the max!
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:55:08am |
Speaking of finances- I was thinking of getting this as a gift for my lil' nephew.....perhaps for no other reason than to see the look on my overbearing moonbat/vegan sister's face.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:56:43am |
re: #87 NoSpam
Wha?
It's a joke.
Back in 1969, the UK launched the first of its Skynet military satellites (They're up to Skynet 5 currently).
In the plot of the Terminator movies, "Skynet" is the name of a fictional series of artificially intelligent military satellites that controls all U.S. military weapons. Part of the plot of the Terminator movies is that, on August 29, 1997, they become self-aware, it deploys an army of Terminator robots against all of humanity, and eventually destroys all of humanity when it launches a full nuclear holocaust, making humanity extinct.
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Crux Australis Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:57:45am |
re: #90 redc1c4
make ya feel better, down in Oz and the ilk it's a happy face.
/just not my nature.
It was until the clouds started rolling in. At least I caught a glimpse.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:24am |
re: #93 Fenway_Nation
That's just cruel and unjust towards your sister. Only thing worse would be showing up with a turducken for her to roast.
/keep up the good work
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Sharmuta Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:28am |
re: #53 redc1c4
what we need is party discipline, and the RNC is not the folks who will provide that,
We wouldn't need that if we elected principled people.
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:31am |
re: #95 Crux Australis
Wish You were Here
Til I kick you out the door.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:48am |
re: #94 gmsc
I thought Skynet launched the nukes first and sent the Terminators after the survivors once the dust cleared.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:01:37am |
re: #99 Fenway_Nation
I thought Skynet launched the nukes first and sent the Terminators after the survivors once the dust cleared.
I never could follow that poltline right.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:04:08am |
re: #100 gmsc
Only thing I didn't like about the third movie was that it said no matter what they did, the terminator future was inevitable.
/so much for "No fate, but what we make"
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:04:43am |
Tool bag alert. Crossing tip of S. America. Heading East by East.
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:05:57am |
re: #97 Sharmuta
We wouldn't need that if we elected principled people.
two sides of the same problem.....
the asshats keep promulgating asshats & we want to vote for Republicans.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:09:09am |
re: #96 BlueCanuck
Thanks Blue- actually, I thought that whole onestock site was pretty nifty and could actually serve some purpose beyond novelty. Let's say ya want to invest in a company that doesn't offer a Direct Stock Purchase Plan...and you're leery of paying comissions to brokers on an ongoing basis. One way around that could be to purchase a single stock from the onestock page.....and then continue to purchase more shares through that company's Dividend Reinvestment Program (where you can purchase more shares without a broker, but you have to own at least one share of the stock).
/Of course, there's the matter of the one-time transfer fee of about $40 that onestock charges.
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Sharmuta Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:10:14am |
re: #103 redc1c4
two sides of the same problem.....
the asshats keep promulgating asshats & we want to vote for Republicans.
Can't argue with that.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:11:27am |
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The Other Les Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:20:01am |
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.— Dan Quayle
Okay. That qualifies as real wisdom.
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:23:49am |
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:24:46am |
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:25:35am |
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:27:51am |
Well this isn't my favourite Pink Floyd, it's up there.
/Crux Australis already posted it.
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Dustyvet Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:34:29am |
re: #61 NoSpam
The Flying Tools!
It's a sign from the gods, symbolic of Obama's cabinet.
The bag was one of the largest items ever lost by a spacewalking astronaut. NASA put the price tag of the tool bag at $100,000. I wonder if NASA will hit the astronaut with a Statement of Charges for the tool bag...?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:36:29am |
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:37:11am |
re: #118 Mel Lono
Tool bag preparing to enter Iranian airspace.
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
/Crossing fingers
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Sharmuta Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:38:47am |
re: #114 BlueCanuck
Well, Hon- us blue people have to stick together. ;)
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:39:57am |
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:43:57am |
re: #118 Mel Lono
Tool bag preparing to enter Iranian airspace.
re: #120 Fenway_Nation
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
/Crossing fingers
Unless it knock dinnerjacket's motorcade into the "stan" countries, it's still in orbit.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:46:13am |
re: #124 BlueCanuck
Wide Reciever for the N.Y. Giants who was a busy guy this past weekend.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:49:16am |
re: #126 Fenway_Nation
Oh, that guy. Nope can't be me.
Rules for handguns.
1.) if carried, carried in a proper holster
2.) safety must always be engaged when holstered, and until actual use
3.) no round shall be chambered until you actually draw and intend to use
4.) NEVER EVER carry when alcohol is being imbibed. At home or in public
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:51:05am |
re: #127 BlueCanuck
In which case, Burress apparently was 0-4 this weekend.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:53:33am |
re: #128 Fenway_Nation
I could probably add to that list and make it 0-n. I think he was breaking all the rules when it came to firearm use and ownership. Which makes me giggle when some one is shot by a weapon they were cleaning. Step one, ensure the breech is empty.
/how else are you going to clean the breech and barrel in the first place?
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Sharmuta Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:55:38am |
re: #127 BlueCanuck
4.) NEVER EVER carry when alcohol is being imbibed. At home or in public
Well- that's odd. Who ever heard of drunken gun totters ever causing problems?
/
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:00:03am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:02:02am |
re: #132 littleoldlady
Good morning littleoldlady. Thanks for the fruitcup.
/and the thread is saved yet again, as lizards lumber to the buffet to get that extra energy from sugars, vitamins and other good stuff.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:02:08am |
They had fruitcup at the casino tonight.....but who am I to turn away such consistently wonderful offerings?
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Panhandler Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:02:54am |
re: #132 littleoldlady
Yay! ( Slurp ) lol is teh rescue maven. [ I know Sharmuta, you is teh bomb]
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:03:22am |
re: #132 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!
Good morning, LOL!
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:03:51am |
Panhandler! :-)
/scrolls up to see who else is here.......
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Panhandler Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:05:51am |
re: #135 BlueCanuck
Limber lumbering lizards lapping lol's libations.
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:07:55am |
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Erik The Red Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:09:23am |
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tappin52 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:10:36am |
Cautious chameleons carefully consuming cantaloupe.
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Panhandler Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:12:47am |
re: #147 tappin52
Cautious chameleons carefully consuming cantaloupe.
This thread brought to you by the letter G and number 7. Can you say "fruitcup" boys and girls?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:12:47am |
re: #148 Sharmuta
Be very careful when you are entering the number of copies you want next time. :)
/could have been worse it could have been something else multiplied.
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:14:06am |
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tappin52 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:17:43am |
re: #149 Panhandler
I am reminded of a time when my husband and I were watching The Wiggles with our young granddaughter. My husband could barely tolerate the show and when they started to sing the Fruit Salad song he couldn't grab the remote fast enough.
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Panhandler Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:20:45am |
re: #152 tappin52
It makes you wonder just how many grandparents, or parents for that matter, who are still undergoing Barney councilling.
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:21:36am |
Oh. Grandchildren. I forgot about that.
/just when you think it's safe to turn the TV back on
//with any luck, Barney will be dead by then...
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:22:14am |
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:24:26am |
re: #154 littleoldlady
Nope, they will still be parading that fossillized costume around for decades to come.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:26:04am |
re: #153 Panhandler
It makes you wonder just how many grandparents, or parents for that matter, who are still undergoing Barney councilling.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:26:29am |
re: #157 littleoldlady
Yeah, and just think of the poor bastard stuck in it. I wonder if the poor person has a special therapist just to deal with that?
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:27:06am |
re: #154 littleoldlady
Chances are Barney will be dead and buried- his still-beating heart torn out from its chest cavity and greedily devoured by something a hundred times as insufferable and saccharine....
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Panhandler Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:27:07am |
re: #156 BlueCanuck
Nope, they will still be parading that fossillized costume around for decades to come.
Dang it Blue, here's another ID thread.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:28:07am |
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:28:23am |
re: #159 BlueCanuck
I think they have to switch costume-wearers every few weeks.
/it's the voice guy I worry about...
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:28:39am |
Good morning people.
Doing big assignment #1 of 2 due for tomorrow. Gonna be a looooooong night/morning.
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Panhandler Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:29:30am |
re: #160 Fenway_Nation
Yeah, well, we can dream can't we. Perhaps we can have a contest between Barney and the latest Palistinian suffering mouse.
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Panhandler Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:30:38am |
re: #164 TheMatrix31
Have you considered switching Majors to Interior Design?
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:30:43am |
re: #159 BlueCanuck
Yeah, and just think of the poor bastard stuck in it. I wonder if the poor person has a special therapist just to deal with that?
Don't worry. David Joyner has other roles outside of Barney to keep him well-adjusted.
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akak Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:32:01am |
If the Chinese can now destroy the space station from space, can they also destroy military satellite's with same technology?
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gmsc Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:32:40am |
re: #168 akak
If the Chinese can now destroy the space station from space, can they also destroy military satellite's with same technology?
Or even toolbags that are head for Argentina?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:34:06am |
re: #166 Panhandler
Have you considered switching Majors to Interior Design?
Definitely not. I don't have the...uh...."sense" for that.
....not that there's anything wrong with that.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:38:09am |
re: #167 gmsc
You call that career well adjusted? Never mind, have yourself a good night.
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:39:04am |
Damn.. missed the screen capture. We could have had Peru! Anybody play Risk, i mean like in the last 20 years?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:39:21am |
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Panhandler Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:39:35am |
re: #173 Mel Lono
Tool bag to take a left turn. I said Right!
It's pining for the fjords. Note that it will be passing Canaveral tomorrow.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:40:15am |
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Buster Bunny Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:41:34am |
Toolbag just went past the tip of South America.
Can you get a tourist visa for this toolbag .. its really sight seeing around the world ... ?
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:42:07am |
re: #178 BlueCanuck
yep. is that the one on addicting games online eh?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:42:14am |
re: #179 Buster Bunny
Wouldn't want it's itinerary. Hardly enough time to stop for food and pictures.
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:43:59am |
Any kids watching, it's way past bedtime. But if you want to pass geography 1, not a bad screensaver.
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Crux Australis Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:44:35am |
Is it true that Sarah Palin has a tattoo of the Big Dipper?
Interesting -----> my username
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gregg Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:20am |
According to the MN Secretary of State website, Al Fraken is now ahead by 4237 votes (91.13% of the ballots counted).
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman 1,103,291
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken 1,107,528
Stuart Smalley say hello to Washington DC?
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Buster Bunny Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:40am |
Toolbag goes to Gibraltar - heading for the sunshine ...
What a bag .. its got taste !
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Panhandler Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:43am |
re: #181 BlueCanuck
Wouldn't want it's itinerary. Hardly enough time to stop for food and pictures.
When Aldrin, Armstrong and Collins came back from their Lunar trip they hac to fill out a lot of paperwork. One form was for missed meals due to travel. They had to check "None" as "Goverment quarters and messing were provided".
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:58am |
re: #184 Crux Australis
Or in English, the Southern Cross. :)
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:46:48am |
Good Morning LGF.
The crisis in Canadian national politics continues to deepen. The 3 opposition parties announced yesterday that they have signed a formal deal to form a coalition government as soon as they get a chance to defeat the minority Conservative Government of Stephen Harper. Under the deal the Liberal Party (centre left) and the New Democratic Party (socialist) have agreed to combine forces until June, 2011, and have secured the support of the Parti Quebecois (separatist) until at least Spring, 2010.
Unless the Conservatives take the extraordinary step of proroguing (suspending) Parliament for up to 11 months, the leftist/separatist coalition will get a chance to vote down the Harper government as early as next Monday.
Under the coalition deal the new Prime Minister will be none other than the outgoing leader of the Liberal Party Stephane Dion, who less than 2 months ago led his party to its worst electoral defeat in over a hundred years, and who in disgrace was forced only last month to announce his intention to resign the Liberal leadership by May, 2009.
This move to negate the recent Conservative electoral victory is apparently quite legal from a constitutional point of view but if the power grab proceeds it will represent the closest thing to a coup d'etat that Canada will have ever experienced. There is little doubt that the government will become and remain weak and unstable for the foreseeable future - the last thing Canadians need during this critical period.
This is a cynical, dishonest, anti-democratic, contemptible, dirty, back-room deal between the power-hungry failed liberals, the lunatic fringe socialists and the scheming, Canada-hating Quebec separatists.
WAKE UP CANADA!
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shiplord kirel Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:48:04am |
In my comments on the spin-off link to Charles Vick's new article on Iranian and North Korean missiles, I mentioned Mr. Vick's amazing record of unraveling then-secret Soviet and Chinese projects during the Cold War. He scooped official sources time after time, with predictions and analyses that turned out to be wholly accurate when Soviet records finally became available in the 1990s.
Another of his feats was the determination that the Soviet's Proton booster had actually been designed as a monster ICBM to deliver a postulated 100 megaton warhead.
Like his research on the N-1 Moon rocket, his conclusions about Proton were widely rejected at the time (ca. 1970) but turned out to be true.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:48:31am |
re: #180 Mel Lono
No such thing as online addicting games.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:49:21am |
re: #190 Spare O'Lake
If this opposition block pulls it off, won't it be the first time in 80+ years that there's been a change of government in Canada without an election?
Sort of a bloodless coup d'etat?
/Someone gets some Canadian channels on XM
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:27am |
re: #194 Fenway_Nation
Yes, that's correct. As well it will never have happened so soon after an election. The current government hasn't even had a chance to table a budget for the coming fiscal year.
I think the Libs and NDP are pissed that the Conservatives aren't bailing out any of their core supporters, i.e. unions.
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:53am |
re: #192 Mel Lono
What do you catch with that lure?
Mostly largemouth bass and smallmouth bass, and the occasional fascist troll.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:54am |
re: #174 BlueCanuck
No way.....Barney was a CTU SWAT operative in 24?
/Who does the background checks there?
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shiplord kirel Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:58am |
Reminds me. Are the moonbat fringe dwellers still trying to impeach Bush?
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Erik The Red Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:52:07am |
re: #153 Panhandler
It makes you wonder just how many grandparents, or parents for that matter, who are still undergoing Barney councilling.
Not just grandparents. Spare a thought for us parents of young kids. If I never hear Barney again it will be to soon.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:52:49am |
re: #196 BlueCanuck
What (if any) recourse does the voting public have?
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:53:24am |
re: #196 BlueCanuck
the Conservatives aren't bailing out any of their core supporters, i.e. unions.
We have no part in this.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:54:47am |
re: #199 shiplord kirel
Yes....because the world can't wait!
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Mel Lono Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:55:53am |
re: #197 Spare O'Lake
Well said... i'm a golden, spooked easily, rises in early morn, eats what catches my fancy. Lives free and dies in a pan.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:56:03am |
re: #201 Fenway_Nation
Another election? If there is a coalition I don't count on it lasting too long. There's a post in the linkviewer under Canada that leads to the National post column that talks about that actually.
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Crux Australis Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:57:56am |
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:01:43am |
re: #194 Fenway_Nation
If this opposition block pulls it off, won't it be the first time in 80+ years that there's been a change of government in Canada without an election?
Sort of a bloodless coup d'etat?
/Someone gets some Canadian channels on XM
Exactly correct. Canada has no history of coalition governments. Even though we often get minority governments, they usually manage to muddle along for a couple of years until the next election.
This is a game-changer.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:06:55am |
re: #209 Crux Australis
What's in the fruitcup?
Hopefully Red Bull, or something that will keep me awake for a long time.
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:07:33am |
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:08:43am |
re: #208 Spare O'Lake
My initial thought was 'dipshit leftists emboldened by an 0bama victory'.....
I'm not really backing away from that one.
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:10:37am |
re: #204 Mel Lono
There is no better place on a warm summer dawn than being anchored off a glassy calm lake weedline, casting a trusty old surface plug...
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Crux Australis Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:11:20am |
re: #212 littleoldlady
Picky, picky!
/why look a gift fruitcup on the mouth?
You sound like my parents when I visit and ask what's for dinner. Sorry.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:11:50am |
re: #213 Fenway_Nation
Still thinking about firing off a letter to my MP. He might be a Liberal Fiberal, but he should listen to me. Going to the protest on Saturday at Queens Park against this coalition.
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:14:40am |
re: #215 Crux Australis
Your parents are NICE!
/around here it's "Just shut up and it eat it, already!"
;-)
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:15:30am |
re: #216 BlueCanuck
It's hopeless.....your cause lacks giant paper maiche puppets.
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:17:27am |
re: #213 Fenway_Nation
My initial thought was 'dipshit leftists emboldened by an 0bama victory'.....
I'm not really backing away from that one.
Jack Layton (*spit*), the leader of the NDP (*spit*), attended the Dem convention and brazenly appropriated a whole bunch of Obamaspeak into his own campaign rhetoric.
These lefties are drooling at the prospect of using the current economic downturn as an excuse to SPEND, SPEND, SPEND.
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tappin52 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:18:20am |
re: #217 littleoldlady
I love when my sons come to visit. They always eat all of the leftovers and make cleaning the fridge easy.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:19:16am |
re: #219 Spare O'Lake
Don't forget, TAX TAX TAX!
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:22:25am |
re: #221 BlueCanuck
Shhhhh - we're not supposed to know that just yet.
LOL.
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:23:47am |
re: #220 tappin52
My daughter is the opposite. Day after Thanksgiving - refrigerator LOADED with leftovers - "There's nothing to EAT!"
/the urge to kill...
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:25:49am |
re: #226 littleoldlady
My daughter is the opposite. Day after Thanksgiving - refrigerator LOADED with leftovers - "There's nothing to EAT!"
/the urge to kill...
Send her out to CA. I'll take her out for dinner :)
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tappin52 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:26:07am |
re: #226 littleoldlady
The days after Thanksgiving are not going to see me cooking at all. Its everyone for themselves til I recoup.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:26:45am |
re: #224 Spare O'Lake
I am just going on past performance.
/I DON'T have a memory of a goldfish when it comes to politics and history.
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opnion Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:26:55am |
The Chairman of Ford is going to drive a Ford back to DC to seek a bailout.
What is the over & under of the auto breaking down?
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:27:51am |
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:27:55am |
re: #227 TheMatrix31
Hmmm, what's with all the single lizards hitting on the matron lizards daughters?
/Shades of Dorian threatening to stalk DT's daughter yesterday morning. ;)
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Crux Australis Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:28:51am |
Looks like the Labor Party in Australia are taxing and spending their way out of coming economic problems or so they think.
When the Labor Party comes to power in Australia you can almost guarantee that there are deficit budgets, tax increases and more unemployment.
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:29:14am |
re: #226 littleoldlady
My daughter is the opposite. Day after Thanksgiving - refrigerator LOADED with leftovers - "There's nothing to EAT!"
/the urge to kill...
In my family kids don't do leftovers. Strictly parent food. LOL.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:30:22am |
re: #233 littleoldlady
Not me, she's too young for my liking. ;)
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Luigi Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:30:46am |
Suddenly, from out of nowhere, they're going to deploy our military in American streets under the executive power of the President. Apparently, Bush has wanted this for a while but now, lo and behold, the idea is gaining traction..
[Link: news.google.com...]
This comes part and parcel with some new warning about terror attacks unwrapped by ... Joe Biden..
[Link: news.google.com...]
Since the end of the Civil War the US military has been restricted from prowling American streets. Now we are going to give the authority to do that to Barack Obama.
Just watch. They'll be using the military in the cities in 2012 to enforce mandatory voting.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:33:24am |
re: #232 BlueCanuck
Hmmm, what's with all the single lizards hitting on the matron lizards daughters?
/Shades of Dorian threatening to stalk DT's daughter yesterday morning. ;)
Hey, at least I'm trying to find a conservative girl!
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goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:33:43am |
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:34:38am |
Good morning {goddess}, ready to take on the day?
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nonic Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:35:51am |
re: #220 tappin52
I love when my sons come to visit. They always eat all of the leftovers and make cleaning the fridge easy.
I can top that. Nowadays my sons do all the cooking, too.
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goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:35:59am |
re: #241 BlueCanuck
Good morning {goddess}, ready to take on the day?
{BlueCanuck} I think so! I got lots of chores done yesterday--it's amazing how just changing light bulbs ibrightens one's outlook!
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opnion Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:37:10am |
Mandatory sentencing laws in New York dictate 2.5 years in jail for having a gun not registered in the state.
Do they make an exception for Plaxico Buress, or is he toast?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:37:47am |
re: #243 goddessoftheclassroom
{BlueCanuck} I think so! I got lots of chores done yesterday--it's amazing how just changing light bulbs ibrightens one's outlook!
iBrighten? That better not be another damn Apple product!
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NYCHardhat Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:39:57am |
Good morning. Hope you all have a wonderful day making money.
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goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:40:01am |
re: #245 TheMatrix31
iBrighten? That better not be another damn Apple product!
Whoops! I was going for the pun and committed a typo. My apologies!
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:41:44am |
I could use a little iBrighten... :-/
Good day, ALL!™
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:45:02am |
Bye littleoldlady, have a profitable day.
/any way you can get it.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:46:32am |
re: #244 opnion
Mandatory sentencing laws in New York dictate 2.5 years in jail for having a gun not registered in the state.
Do they make an exception for Plaxico Buress, or is he toast?
first offense ,,,,, didn't mean it, your honor ,,,, never kicked a puppy ,,,,,,gave to toys for tots on the way in ,,,,,
slap on the wrist ,,, fine, community service, probation
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srb1976 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:48:16am |
Morning folks....hope everyone is well!
Trying to wake little man up gently, and it's actually cold outside.
(being grateful for defroster in the truck as I am a bit too short to effectively scrape the windshield)
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goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:49:30am |
re: #248 littleoldlady
I could use a little iBrighten... :-/
Good day, ALL!™
{littleoldlady}!
In your opinion, is it worth a round-trip drive of about 120 miles and three and a half hours of travel time on a Saturday to save $50 in shipping costs?
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opnion Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:49:32am |
re: #253 sattv4u2
first offense ,,,,, didn't mean it, your honor ,,,, never kicked a puppy ,,,,,,gave to toys for tots on the way in ,,,,,
slap on the wrist ,,, fine, community service, probation
That sounds about right. The only thing that makes me think maybe not is Michael Vick. I know that the crimes are different, but it should bother Buress & his lawyer.
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littleoldlady Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:54:54am |
re: #255 goddessoftheclassroom
{littleoldlady}!
In your opinion, is it worth a round-trip drive of about 120 miles and three and a half hours of travel time on a Saturday to save $50 in shipping costs?
goddess! :-)
No.
*p00f!*
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:56:53am |
re: #253 sattv4u2
He has a prior weapons charge tho they talking mandatory 3.5 on Plax if found guilty.
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opnion Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:59:16am |
re: #258 Rancher
He has a prior weapons charge tho they talking mandatory 3.5 on Plax if found guilty.
His team mate tried to hide the weapon. What about him? If there is a crime he abetted.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:02:49am |
re: #261 opnion
Yeah I was taling about Antonio Pierce Yesterday he's lawyered up and in negotiations atm to avoid charges. Dumb of him to hide the gun after the fact especially since he was calling plax dumb for bringing the gun to a club. Also dumb was the fact that he listened when Plax asked him not to call an ambulance because there would be questions and Plax had priors.
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goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:03:20am |
Got to run--thanks for the shopping advice!
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:04:52am |
There was also supposedly a 3rd giant present but no word on if he is/was connected with the incident.
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srb1976 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:05:08am |
I think I may need dynamite to get the little man out of bed.....lights on, movie running, baby sister playing in his room.....still fast asleep
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sattv4u2 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:06:33am |
Would it not have been delicioulsy ironic if Plaxico "shot himself in the foot" instead of his leg !?!?
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Rune Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:07:05am |
It has also made it clear that if India again masses troops on the border, Pakistani forces would be diverted away from the tribal areas, allowing militants there to focus on Afghanistan.
Mumbai attacks ‘were a ploy to wreck Obama plan to isolate al-Qaeda’
- Pakistan is increasingly using its Taliban problem in the north as blackmail against the coalition in Afghanistan and any action India may take. But if Pakistan is unwilling or unable to maintain national sovereignty in those tribal areas, then they are no longer Pakistani territories and any other nation is free to take the military steps deemed necessary, without Pakistan having a say in the matter.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:07:48am |
re: #266 srb1976
I think I may need dynamite to get the little man out of bed.....lights on, movie running, baby sister playing in his room.....still fast asleep
Thansk for clarifying. In your #254, I was a little worried about who your "little man" was
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:17:42am |
re: #268 Rune
Mumbai attacks ‘were a ploy to wreck Obama plan to isolate al-Qaeda’
- Pakistan is increasingly using its Taliban problem in the north as blackmail against the coalition in Afghanistan and any action India may take. But if Pakistan is unwilling or unable to maintain national sovereignty in those tribal areas, then they are no longer Pakistani territories and any other nation is free to take the military steps deemed necessary, without Pakistan having a say in the matter.
You are of course repeating Obama's stated policy on US intent to strike terrorist targets in the tribal areas if Pakistan will not do so. The question therefore becomes:
Will he do what he said he would do?
This may well be Obama's first major test.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:20:21am |
re: #272 Spare O'Lake
I can easily see him screwing the pooch on this one too. PLus the 3 or 4 that will follow in hte next 6 months.
Rustler
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Hengineer Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:22:43am |
re: #272 Spare O'Lake
You are of course repeating Obama's stated policy on US intent to strike terrorist targets in the tribal areas if Pakistan will not do so. The question therefore becomes:
Will he do what he said he would do?
This may well be Obama's first major test.
Right now its Bush's last, let's not look that far forward shall we? (that thought is depressing)
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:23:03am |
re: #273 Rancher
I can easily see him screwing the pooch on this one too. PLus the 3 or 4 that will follow in hte next 6 months.
Rustler
The poor pooch is gonna need a can of mace and a bodyguard./
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:23:50am |
re: #275 Spare O'Lake
The poor pooch is gonna need a can of mace and a bodyguard./
Or a whole jar of lube.
/bad blue, bad. . . . .
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gregg Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:25:33am |
From Bloomberg:
"GM, at risk of running out of operating cash this year, wants to stop paying union workers when plants are closed and there is no other work, people familiar with the company’s plans said."
What a novel idea.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:25:47am |
**sigh**
I still have a 10 page paper on the jury trial system to start.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:26:51am |
re: #267 sattv4u2
Would it not have been delicioulsy ironic if Plaxico "shot himself in the foot" instead of his leg !?!?
Well, you know what they say, "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."
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sattv4u2 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:26:57am |
re: #277 gregg
From Bloomberg:
"GM, at risk of running out of operating cash this year, wants to stop paying union workers when plants are closed and there is no other work, people familiar with the company’s plans said."
What a novel idea.
I'm wondering how many of those 'workers" do the same amount of work wheather the plant is open or not!
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Hengineer Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:28:42am |
re: #280 sattv4u2
I'm wondering how many of those 'workers" do the same amount of work wheather the plant is open or not!
Its their rice bowl.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:29:24am |
re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, you know what they say, "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."
" ,,,,,,, I swear to God doctor, I was just bent over, minding my own business when this gerbil found it's way up my ass"
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sattv4u2 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:29:43am |
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Elcid Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:30:26am |
Charles, I must ask.
Did Dan Rather pick the background for you in your PJTV ad, or was it Mary Mapes...You know the brick wall?-------------->
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Hengineer Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:30:37am |
re: #283 sattv4u2
" ,,,,,,, I swear to God doctor, I was just bent over, minding my own business when this gerbil found it's way up my ass"
lemmiwinks!
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:31:16am |
re: #280 sattv4u2
I'm wondering how many of those 'workers" do the same amount of work wheather the plant is open or not!
How dare you malign big 3 auto workers. Don't you know that they have increased their productivity by a third? They now work 4 hours per shift instead of 3.
/
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:31:49am |
re: #278 TheMatrix31
**sigh**
I still have a 10 page paper on the jury trial system to start.
When is it due?
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Hengineer Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:32:13am |
re: #287 Spare O'Lake
How dare you malign big 3 auto workers. Don't you know that they have increased their productivity by a third? They now work 4 hours per shift instead of 3.
/
Well they're at work for 4 instead of 3 hours, but 2 hours of that is a union meeting, 1 hour is their mandatory union coffee break.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:33:53am |
Well my relief is here and it's time to go. Stay scaly all.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:34:20am |
re: #289 Hengineer
Well they're at work for 4 instead of 3 hours, but 2 hours of that is a union meeting, 1 hour is their mandatory union coffee break.
"We get up at twelve and go to work at one....
Take an hour for lunch and then at two we're done....
Jolly Good Fun....
Ha Ha Ha
Ho Ho Ho
And a couple of Lah di dahs
That's how we work the day away in the Merry Ole Land of Oz!"
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:34:30am |
re: #289 Hengineer Don't forget the 2 union mandated cofee/smoking breaks.
rustler
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:35:34am |
re: #293 Rancher nm you said coffee : P i must still be under teh effects of fruit cup.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:37:24am |
Rofl U.S. in the process of creating Ethical cybornetic beings now. FnF starts teh segment with the opening scene from one of the Terminator movies.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:37:25am |
re: #287 Spare O'Lake
Lets see if we can find a trend here
DETROIT ,,, Big Three ,,,,,, Union Workers ,,,,, Asking for a BAILOUT
ALABAMA ,, Honda,,, Hyundai ,,, Benz ,,NON Union ,,,,,, NOT asking
MISSISSIPPI ,,, Toyota ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, NON Union ,,,,,,,,NOT asking
GEORGAI ,,,,,,,, Kia ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NON Union ,,,,,,,,,NOT asking
naaahhhh ,,,, just a coincidence !
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:37:30am |
The more I see the more I am convinced that Dan Quayle was a genius.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:38:42am |
re: #297 sattv4u2
Problem is the non big 3 are not American companies. A better analysis would be showing SW compared to the unionized airlines.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:39:07am |
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:40:17am |
Not that the unions aren't a big chunk of the need for bailouts among the big 3 but it's kinda hard for a Japanese, German or Korean automaker to ask the US for money.
Rustler
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Ford_Prefect Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:09am |
Good Morning Lizards!
It is a nice 40 something degree day here in CT. I hope everyone is well.
Just a little holiday gift giving advise... don't give markers to a toddler.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:18am |
re: #300 TheMatrix31
Haha not quite time for teh red bull rush to finish then.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:26am |
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Sharmuta Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:29am |
Good Morning, Mandy- did you see our friends at the stalker blog are now just making stuff up about LGF?
They're saying LGF supports the Kosovo Liberation Army. There's no link for that of course, so I went and got one for them.
Hope that helps- oh, wait.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:42:02am |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:42:08am |
re: #301 Rancher
Not that the unions aren't
a big chunk ofthe need for bailouts among the big 3 but it's kinda hard for a Japanese, German or Korean automaker to ask the US for money.
Rustler
fixed that for ya
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:42:34am |
re: #298 lifeofthemind
The more I see the more I am convinced that Dan Quayle was a genius.
An super genius. Like Wile E. Coyote.
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DistantThunder Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:43:33am |
re: #23 gmsc
Activists Seek Revocation of Tax Exempt Status of Churches That Supported Prop 8
Trivia: When Joseph Smith formed the Mormon Church, the US government repeatedly tried to prosecute them for polygamy, while Joseph Smith kept claiming freedom of religion.
Finally, the US government threatened to revoke the Mormon Church's tax-exempt status. Shortly after that, Joseph Smith reported having a vision that God told him polygamy was wrong.
It's a miracle!
Polygamy was revoked decades after Joseph Smith's death. It had more to do with Utah statehood than anything else.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:06am |
re: #309 Wyatt Earp You'd think with all the money he send's ACME's way he could just hire a hitman to take out the silly bird.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:12am |
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DistantThunder Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:22am |
re: #305 Sharmuta
Good Morning, Mandy- did you see our friends at the stalker blog are now just making stuff up about LGF?
They're saying LGF supports the Kosovo Liberation Army. There's no link for that of course, so I went and got one for them.
Hope that helps- oh, wait.
I heard LGF2 supports Breasts Not Bombs.
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Ford_Prefect Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:52am |
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:45:48am |
Funny the way Palin and Romney's churches play such a big role in there electability yet Obama's racist church had virtually none.
Rustler
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:45:48am |
re: #305 Sharmuta
Good Morning, Mandy- did you see our friends at the stalker blog are now just making stuff up about LGF?
They're saying LGF supports the Kosovo Liberation Army. There's no link for that of course, so I went and got one for them.
Hope that helps- oh, wait.
I rarely check it out.
I wonder if the Jindal thread will cause them to claim Charles hates Christians and eats babies.
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3 wood Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:46:08am |
Good morning folks.
Look the the market to open up this morning as the futures indexes are pointing up 2 to 2.5%.
The Nikkei and Hang Seng got hammered last night, but I think that was in response to the US market dropping like a rock yesterday, with the 4th worst one day point drop ever.
It is clear that investors are running from any risk now. We are seeing a pattern of the market getting pounded and oversold, the market then rises a bit as people pick up the oversold bargains, and then the market gets crushed again as investors sell off at the first sign of more bad news.
Depending on what definition you want to use, we have been in a recession for either a few months or one year. That is really besides the point, because all that matters now is what the future holds. So far it holds prospect of more layoffs and dropping profits.
Gold dropped down to $776.80 and oil to $49.10, so oil is close to $100 cheaper now than it was just a few months ago.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:46:46am |
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:47:34am |
Wow oil dropped under $50 awesome Hugo must be having kittens.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:47:38am |
Big news morning.
Piracy almost gets US tourists.
Thai gov't crisis.
India and Pakistan on the brink of WW-I.
NATO supply route to Afghanistan not secure.
Left wing revolt against Conservative gov't in Canada.
And Chemical Ali faces justice.
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DistantThunder Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:48:10am |
re: #317 Rancher
Funny the way Palin and Romney's churches play such a big role in there electability yet Obama's racist church had virtually none.
Rustler
Yeah, be a church that hates america and portrays white citizens as evil - in full-throated voice, from the pulpit and recorded for posterity - no problem.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:48:13am |
re: #322 lifeofthemind
Big news morning.
Piracy almost gets US tourists.
Thai gov't crisis.
India and Pakistan on the brink of WW-I.
NATO supply route to Afghanistan not secure.
Left wing revolt against Conservative gov't in Canada.And Chemical Ali faces justice.
Is he gonna' swing today?
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USCMSNE Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:48:38am |
Dan Quayle was a decent and good man. Sure, he had his gaffes. What was his biggest flap? The Murphy Brown single parent plea? That sure sounded like a speech Bill Cosby made too. Sounded even more like a speech Obama gave this year on missing Dads. Where was the ridicule? Where was the press skewering Obama on the Womans reserved right to raise her own children by herself if she damn well pleased? I heard an interview with him in 2003 after the Iraq issue flared up. I was truly impressed. He laid out the philosophy of GHWB's plan in the 90's for Iraq, where their shortcomings where with it, where there miscalculations where, and stated a concise argument defending the current war. He mentioned about how, at the time, an EOD detachment had just destroyed a cache of VX they found in the desert (the WMD realm is broader than nuclear alone). In a post 9/11 world, in light of all the Hussein regimes atrocities, we, the US, weren't going to stand for it anymore. The same media that propped Obama on his pedastal is the same media that wouldn't characterize Quayle as anything but infantile. It's a shame that he is only going to be remembered for being given a misspelled que card. By the way, anyone care to take a guess as to how that spelling bee kid, the one who was smarter than the VP, is doing now?
/I got my gear on... flame away...
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gregg Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:49:27am |
re: #301 Rancher
Not that the unions aren't a big chunk of the need for bailouts among the big 3 but it's kinda hard for a Japanese, German or Korean automaker to ask the US for money.
Rustler
I know it's a bit different, but Ford and GM asked the Swedish government for a bailout yesterday (for their Volvo and Saab brands).
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:50:53am |
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rightside Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:51:28am |
re: #326 USCMSNE
Simply this:
Dan Quayle=conservative=pure evil.
barry obama=liberal=sugar & spice and everything nice.
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DistantThunder Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:52:20am |
re: #326 USCMSNE
Dan Quayle was a decent and good man. Sure, he had his gaffes. What was his biggest flap? The Murphy Brown single parent plea? That sure sounded like a speech Bill Cosby made too. Sounded even more like a speech Obama gave this year on missing Dads. Where was the ridicule? Where was the press skewering Obama on the Womans reserved right to raise her own children by herself if she damn well pleased? I heard an interview with him in 2003 after the Iraq issue flared up. I was truly impressed. He laid out the philosophy of GHWB's plan in the 90's for Iraq, where their shortcomings where with it, where there miscalculations where, and stated a concise argument defending the current war. He mentioned about how, at the time, an EOD detachment had just destroyed a cache of VX they found in the desert (the WMD realm is broader than nuclear alone). In a post 9/11 world, in light of all the Hussein regimes atrocities, we, the US, weren't going to stand for it anymore. The same media that propped Obama on his pedastal is the same media that wouldn't characterize Quayle as anything but infantile. It's a shame that he is only going to be remembered for being given a misspelled que card. By the way, anyone care to take a guess as to how that spelling bee kid, the one who was smarter than the VP, is doing now?
/I got my gear on... flame away...
He was a little geeky, just like GHWB, but I also head him speak articulately. Have you seen that You tube video of O late for multiple senate committee meetings and acting like a complete buffoon? Or the video of Joe Biden drunk? They are both completely disgraceful.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:52:40am |
re: #324 MandyManners
Is he gonna' swing today?
He just got his fair trial, to be followed in due time by a first class hanging.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:53:35am |
re: #331 lifeofthemind
He just got his fair trial, to be followed in due time by a first class hanging.
We wouldn't want the evil fucker to have a second-class hanging.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:54:57am |
re: #326 USCMSNE
I'll bite, what happened to the boy genius?
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DistantThunder Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:57:00am |
re: #333 rightside
How is WAB's new ring going to feed my children?
Or feed his starving brother? Let me tell you, if you are living on $1 a month - you are starving and malnourished. I bet his ribs show.
Turning your back on your own brother is a sign of bad character - allowing him to starve and live in completely deprivation and squalor - is SADISTIC - and proof of limited functioning conscience.
What would we think of Dan Quayle if he allowed a family member to starve in a shack while he lived in a mansion and bought his wife jewels? Morally bankrupt, or worse, I'd bet.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:59:58am |
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:00:21am |
re: #336 DistantThunder
I'm surprised that the entire tribe hasn't shown up to join Auntie in America.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:01:03am |
re: #336 DistantThunder
Or feed his starving brother? Let me tell you, if you are living on $1 a month - you are starving and malnourished. I bet his ribs show.
Turning your back on your own brother is a sign of bad character - allowing him to starve and live in completely deprivation and squalor - is SADISTIC - and proof of limited functioning conscience.
What would we think of Dan Quayle if he allowed a family member to starve in a shack while he lived in a mansion and bought his wife jewels? Morally bankrupt, or worse, I'd bet.
His attitude toward his brother reminds me of the quote from Office Space: "It's not that I'm lazy. It's that I just don't care."
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:04:29am |
re: #337 MandyManners
She got a new ring? What kind?
Malkin has a thread on this, the thing is Rhodium. No chance of BHO getting audited, pity.
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rightside Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:05:01am |
re: #336 DistantThunder
Definitely. I've come to the conclusion that barring a miracle, the drive-bys will never give conservatives a fair chance.
The talk of subisidizing them makes me now want to refer to them as Pravda.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:06:09am |
Typical narcissistic behavior re: using other people as tools.
[Link: www.laweekly.com...]
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:13am |
re: #342 MandyManners
Typical narcissistic behavior re: using other people as tools.
[Link: www.laweekly.com...]
What else do you expect from "King Tool."
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rightside Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:21am |
re: #337 MandyManners
Rumor of buying her this.
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3 wood Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:43am |
One of the issues related to the Auto industry situation, if I understand their union contracts correctly, is the laid off workers are supposed to be paid just about as much for not working (including benefits) as for working.
That is why the declaration of bankruptcy is so crucial to working out a feasible solution to this. Those contract provisions are simply not affordable. I'm not a lawyer, but the only way to do that during the life of the contract (unless the Unions are willing to waive those provisions, which I doubt) is to declare bankruptcy and get those contracts canceled.
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Crux Australis Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:54am |
re: #341 rightside
Definitely. I've come to the conclusion that barring a miracle, the drive-bys will never give conservatives a fair chance.
Same the whole world over unfortunately.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:09:42am |
re: #340 lifeofthemind
Malkin has a thread on this, the thing is Rhodium. No chance of BHO getting audited, pity.
I don't see a lot wrong with that. It's HER money, too, after all.
Besides, doesn't she deserve a pretty bauble for stifling herself for months?
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:10:29am |
re: #343 Wyatt Earp
What else do you expect from "King Tool."
I'm gonna' be keeping my eye on his narcissism in the years to come. Let's hope it's just four years.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:11:28am |
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:12:42am |
re: #344 rightside
Someones responce to the ring from that page
He has to spend all the extra campaign money on something. At least it gets some money back into the economy.
But Rhodium is mined in South Africa and its being made in Italy not really helping the American Economy.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:13:21am |
re: #351 Rancher
Someones responce to the ring from that page
But Rhodium is mined in South Africa and its being made in Italy not really helping the American Economy.
And if it did help the economy, he wouldn't be interested.
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syncopation Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:13:24am |
A moving remembrance for Rivky and Gabi Holtzberg, Chabad of Mumbai:
My Heroic Friends Rivky and Gabi Holtzberg
...I want the world to know who Rivky and Gabi Holtzberg were in life and to tell you what I witnessed of their accomplishments in their brief 27 and 29 years on earth. While I am devastated by their death, I am thankful that my life and so many others were touched by their purity, friendship and spirit.
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rightside Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:01am |
re: #346 Crux Australis
I am starting to learn that more and more. Being able to speak with other conservatives around the globe has been an awesome experience.
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opnion Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:07am |
re: #323 DistantThunder
Yeah, be a church that hates america and portrays white citizens as evil - in full-throated voice, from the pulpit and recorded for posterity - no problem.
It really is an outrage that BHO got away with saying that in 20 years, he never heard any of Rev Wrights racist, anti-Semetic or anti-American rants. It is childish to support that reasoning.
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Ford_Prefect Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:09am |
re: #349 MandyManners
Oh, that is pretty.
I think he should spread the wealth and give one to every woman in the country. After all, it is not fair that he can afford that when some people have to settle for cubic zirconia. //
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:40am |
Its about time for us to do something about these pirates now but we will have to wait til CBBHO is in office or it will be seen as just another of Bush's overreaching acts into the business of other nations.
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gregg Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:15:28am |
re: #345 3 wood
One of the issues related to the Auto industry situation, if I understand their union contracts correctly, is the laid off workers are supposed to be paid just about as much for not working (including benefits) as for working.
That is why the declaration of bankruptcy is so crucial to working out a feasible solution to this. Those contract provisions are simply not affordable. I'm not a lawyer, but the only way to do that during the life of the contract (unless the Unions are willing to waive those provisions, which I doubt) is to declare bankruptcy and get those contracts canceled.
The UAW keeps making noise about how new hires will be paid considerably less under the new contract. Sounds good, but when in the foreseeable future will they have any new hires? I suspect they will be cutting jobs for awhile and then there will be a hiring freeze.
If they actually start growing at some point in the future, don't the laid off workers get called back before they hire new workers? If that's the case, does anyone know if recalled workers would start at the "new hire" pay rate, or do come back with some seniority and a higher rate?
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:16:38am |
re: #347 MandyManners
I don't see a lot wrong with that. It's HER money, too, after all.
Besides, doesn't she deserve a pretty bauble for stifling herself for months?
Their finances do not pass the smell test to me. Her salary doubling after he arranged a grant from the taxpayer, his money based on book sales, that might have been used to cover a large cash infusion from Soros for books that were wholesaled off. I think they are old fashioned Chicago crooks and if a good prosecutor followed the money they'd be in jail.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:16:44am |
re: #357 Rancher
Its about time for us to do something about these pirates now but we will have to wait til CBBHO is in office or it will be seen as just another of Bush's overreaching acts into the business of other nations.
Do you think Obama will rush to action? Somehow, I doubt it. Unless "action" is akin to "talking things through."
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:17:06am |
re: #358 gregg
I beleive they come back with the same seniority/paygrade as they left under. But then they have to do actual work for only a small amount more cash.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:18:00am |
re: #359 lifeofthemind
Their finances do not pass the smell test to me. Her salary doubling after he arranged a grant from the taxpayer, his money based on book sales, that might have been used to cover a large cash infusion from Soros for books that were wholesaled off. I think they are old fashioned Chicago crooks and if a good prosecutor followed the money they'd be in jail.
Not to mention all of the questionable "campaign donations" they received from overseas. Something stinks.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:18:12am |
re: #360 Wyatt Earp
I shoulda been clearer we need to do something now before he's elected when nothing will be done. But we won't be able to cause it will be seen only as Bush's meddling sorry.
Ruslter
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rightside Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:19:07am |
re: #351 Rancher
Wasn't there a movie with Don Cheadle about the diamond mining in S Africa, blood diamond or something...
How dare he buy something that an African might have died for to earn his $1 per month!
This is outrageous!
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Crusty Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:19:23am |
re: #246 NYCHardhat
Good morning. Hope you all have a wonderful day making money.
Work harder...people on welfare are depending on you!
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opnion Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:19:43am |
re: #362 Wyatt Earp
Not to mention all of the questionable "campaign donations" they received from overseas. Something stinks.
They used prepaid credit cards. No doubt all kinds of illegal stuff, but will never be traced.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:20:00am |
re: #363 Rancher
I shoulda been clearer we need to do something now before he's elected when nothing will be done. But we won't be able to cause it will be seen only as Bush's meddling sorry.
Ruslter
Oh, my bad. it's early, and I missed your point. You are absolutely correct, though.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:21:28am |
re: #366 opnion
They used prepaid credit cards. No doubt all kinds of illegal stuff, but will never be traced.
Because the media will never ask any questions.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:23:14am |
re: #364 rightside
Yeah Blood Diamond is the movie title its about African Conflict(or blood diamonds) mostly mined in the congo basin and sold to support the numerous warlords in their individual bids for power and war against each other. Blood diamonds are illegal in the US unfortuneatly its very difficult to figure out where a stone came from once its been cut. The most cost effective method of IDing said diamonds requires uncut stones so they can test the surface for sulfur and other trace elements to show the mined location. This process wont work once the gem is cut tho since all the surface contaminant are removed in the cutting process. Other methods of testing involing lasers etc are far more expensive and not often employed.
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:23:26am |
Okay, it's official: I'm being a bum this morning. I simply am not going to drive in on ice covered roads and test my patience with insane drivers.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:23:34am |
re: #362 Wyatt Earp
Not to mention all of the questionable "campaign donations" they received from overseas. Something stinks.
The kicker is the Courts claiming that citizens don't have standing to question his eligibility. At least in a Scottish law system any citizen can bring an action. My hope is that some prosecutor in Texas makes up for the moonbat lefty who went after Cheney by empaneling a Grand Jury to dig into BHO's money trail.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:24:15am |
re: #367 Wyatt Earp
Actually its early but late for me and I truncated my own idea leaving out half the first sentence. Had said it in my head but never typed it out.
Rustler
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doriangrey Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:24:39am |
re: #371 vxbush
Okay, it's official: I'm being a bum this morning. I simply am not going to drive in on ice covered roads and test my patience with insane drivers.
Godd morning vxbushbum.... ;)
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opnion Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:25:01am |
re: #368 Wyatt Earp
Because the media will never ask any questions.
Obama will be judged by different Standards. Richard Cohen writing for WaPo sydication last week said that Obama will govern from neither the Right or Center but 'Above it all." He was serious.
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:25:15am |
re: #372 lifeofthemind
The kicker is the Courts claiming that citizens don't have standing to question his eligibility. At least in a Scottish law system any citizen can bring an action. My hope is that some prosecutor in Texas makes up for the moonbat lefty who went after Cheney by empaneling a Grand Jury to dig into BHO's money trail.
How frustrated we all are, seeing a candidate buy their way into the presidency, and yet we have little recourse to do much about it. I really don't want to wait for the first scandal to break in his administration.
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doriangrey Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:25:19am |
re: #373 Rancher
Actually its early but late for me and I truncated my own idea leaving out half the first sentence. Had said it in my head but never typed it out.
Rustler
Ya done rustled yer own cattle er thoughts eh... ;)
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doriangrey Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:26:49am |
re: #378 Rancher
zackly
Tis a truly bad economy when a man is forced to rustle his own cattle.... ;p
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:26:56am |
re: #374 doriangrey
Godd morning vx
bushbum.... ;)
Heh. I can see it now: a new line of VX models:
VXBush
VXBold (extra caffeine days)
VXBum (for today, as you said)
VXBore (for when no one wants to listen to me)
VXBent (for bad arthritic days)
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:27:20am |
re: #369 doriangrey
Good morning Lizards......
*yawn* Mornin' dorian...do you have any of that high-test coffee of yours this a.m.?
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doriangrey Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:27:35am |
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:28:05am |
re: #376 vxbush
How frustrated we all are, seeing a candidate buy their way into the presidency, and yet we have little recourse to do much about it. I really don't want to wait for the first scandal to break in his administration.
Depends what you mean by scandal. American soldiers standing guard outside Hamas launching sites in Gaza being used to kill Jews in Israel will happen under his administration.
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Crusty Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:28:30am |
re: #366 opnion
They used prepaid credit cards. No doubt all kinds of illegal stuff, but will never be traced.
When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.
Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.
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Ford_Prefect Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:28:30am |
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:29:17am |
re: #379 doriangrey
Nah the insurance payout is 2x what they worth in todays market :P
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doriangrey Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:29:23am |
re: #382 scottishbuzzsaw
*yawn* Mornin' dorian...do you have any of that high-test coffee of yours this a.m.?
Yes, why yes I do... However, past experience here has led my to require that you sign a disclaimer form agreeing that I am not responsible for damage to any computer hardware that might be damaged should you spill any of said coffee.... ;)
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opnion Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:29:50am |
re: #376 vxbush
How frustrated we all are, seeing a candidate buy their way into the presidency, and yet we have little recourse to do much about it. I really don't want to wait for the first scandal to break in his administration.
Wonder if the Palestinian phone bank staff will be at the Inauguration.
If they are there I hope that there are no explosions.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:25am |
re: #372 lifeofthemind
The kicker is the Courts claiming that citizens don't have standing to question his eligibility. At least in a Scottish law system any citizen can bring an action. My hope is that some prosecutor in Texas makes up for the moonbat lefty who went after Cheney by empaneling a Grand Jury to dig into BHO's money trail.
No one has standing to question The One! :)
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:25am |
re: #389 doriangrey
Yes, why yes I do... However, past experience here has led my to require that you sign a disclaimer form agreeing that I am not responsible for damage to any computer hardware that might be damaged should you spill any of said coffee.... ;)
Okey dokey...just pour, my friend, pour...
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:45am |
re: #384 lifeofthemind Kinda like they use UN ambulances as transportation to and from attacks and fly the Hezbollah flag above the UN flag at some UN stations.
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:46am |
re: #384 lifeofthemind
Depends what you mean by scandal. American soldiers standing guard outside Hamas launching sites in Gaza being used to kill Jews in Israel will happen under his administration.
While I do expect something from Obama that will leave Israel to defend itself and may in fact support the Palestinian "cause," I mean a scandal that everyone would agree (or everyone except moonbats) will agree is scandalous and involve money. He's used to the way Chicago works. Washington works almost that way, but I still consider it not quite as bad. And that means that when he starts using Chicago tactics, someone will chirp up.
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doriangrey Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:56am |
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legalpad Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:27am |
re: #385 Crusty
When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.
Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.
This is where we have been for a few years. The media needs to be changed. They've taken over the democratic process.
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doriangrey Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:30am |
re: #395 doriangrey
You got it sweetheart..... ;)
Oh, did I mention that that disclaimer also cover the enamel on your teeth? :O
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:51am |
re: #395 doriangrey
You got it sweetheart..... ;)
Now, if you had something that also included a strong analgesic, I'd go for that. But in a tea variety.
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opnion Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:53am |
re: #385 Crusty
When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.
Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.
Yeah, look at Minnesota, Franken is poised to try to steal the electtion through litigation.
The Dems have never gotten over the Florida recount. Even the NY Times went down there & declared Bush the winner. It doesn't matter they still insist that it was stolen.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:54am |
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:21am |
re: #397 legalpad
This is where we have been for a few years. The media needs to be changed. They've taken over the democratic process.
So when are we creating the new country of Lizardia?
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:25am |
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doriangrey Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:31am |
re: #396 rightside
Morning
pervdorian
Morning.... What? Their are scantly clad 19 year old girls in this thread? where.... where?
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Irish Rose Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:50am |
Good morning, lizards.
A cold and snowy day along the Lake Michigan shoreline.
I've been down for the last 6 days with illness, finally crawling back in to play catch up.
Working my way through the Jindal thread now... yeesh.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:00am |
GDI another time i fail at embedding a link UN Ambulance
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:06am |
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doriangrey Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:40am |
re: #399 vxbush
Now, if you had something that also included a strong analgesic, I'd go for that. But in a tea variety.
Just my Earl Gray, but I never break that out before 5pm.....
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rightside Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:58am |
re: #404 scottishbuzzsaw
Yesterdays overnight thread, our suave playa, was hitting on a Lizardettes 19yo daughter LOL
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:13am |
re: #409 doriangrey
Just my Earl Gray, but I never break that out before 5pm.....
And any caffeine I have must be before 3pm or else I stay awake all night. Especially now; this stupid thyroid thing is mucking up my sleep schedule but good.
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Ford_Prefect Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:14am |
re: #385 Crusty
When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.
Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.
I will be very curious to see what happens in four years. It seems to me that at least some of the excitement surrounding Obama this time around will likely have worn off. Some people will become disenchanted by his actions, as we are seeing with some of his appointments. And I think that the huge turnout this time around from the black community will be considerably less next time. People were understandably excited about voting for a viable black candidate for the first time in their lives. That novelty will be gone in four years. I think it will be very interesting to see what happens.
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legalpad Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:25am |
re: #403 vxbush
So when are we creating the new country of Lizardia?
Good idea! I will begin plotting immediately -
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:28am |
re: #394 vxbush
While I do expect something from Obama that will leave Israel to defend itself and may in fact support the Palestinian "cause," I mean a scandal that everyone would agree (or everyone except moonbats) will agree is scandalous and involve money. He's used to the way Chicago works. Washington works almost that way, but I still consider it not quite as bad. And that means that when he starts using Chicago tactics, someone will chirp up.
There will be some friction from civil service bureaucrats who agree ideologically but don't want to take orders from anybody, possibly a press moment from a big footed black crony from Chicago coming up against a gay administrator in some department. The press will smother most of it.
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:37am |
re: #410 rightside
Yesterdays overnight thread, our suave playa, was hitting on a Lizardettes 19yo daughter LOL
Okay.....
/hiding 23-year-old in the back room
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opnion Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:00am |
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reine.de.tout Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:24am |
re: #408 vxbush
Oh, brother. Selfishness run amok. Now he has to pay off his wife, too!
It's just bad taste, unseemly, to be buying this ring in celebration, I guess, of Obama's "elevation" to the presidency, at a time when so many Americans are facing lay-offs, loss of homes, and general hard times.
He and WAB just don't get it.
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doriangrey Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:26am |
re: #415 vxbush
Okay.....
/hiding 23-year-old in the back room
Hey, that's not nice.... Let the poor child come out to play..... ;)
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:40am |
re: #410 rightside
Yesterdays overnight thread, our suave playa, was hitting on a Lizardettes 19yo daughter LOL
Oh dear...dorian, careful there or I'll have to pour this coffee in your...lap.
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:55am |
re: #414 lifeofthemind
There will be some friction from civil service bureaucrats who agree ideologically but don't want to take orders from anybody, possibly a press moment from a big footed black crony from Chicago coming up against a gay administrator in some department. The press will smother most of it.
Perhaps. My crystal ball doesn't work beyond lunchtime, so I make no predictions. But something will happen, methinks.
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DaddyG Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:06am |
re: #23 gmsc
Activists Seek Revocation of Tax Exempt Status of Churches That Supported Prop 8
Trivia: When Joseph Smith formed the Mormon Church, the US government repeatedly tried to prosecute them for polygamy, while Joseph Smith kept claiming freedom of religion.Finally, the US government threatened to revoke the Mormon Church's tax-exempt status. Shortly after that, Joseph Smith reported having a vision that God told him polygamy was wrong.
It's a miracle!
You have the general idea, but...
Joseph Smith was dead decades before the issue of polygamy became a federal or legal issue. It was Brigham Young who fought the US government and John Taylor (Brigham's successor) who revoked the practice of it. Some historical detail:
The Saints were opposed in Illinois for several factors including their abolitionist stance and their tendency to vote in blocks fueled by large amounts if immigrants from Europe. They gained a great deal of power in Western Illinois in a short period of time and it made some their neighbors uneasy. Joseph Smith was killed by a mob in retaliation for destroying the printing press of polygamy opponents. After Joseph Smith was murdered by the mob the state of Illinois disarmed the Saints and Missouri put out an extermination order.
Under the leadership of Brigham Young the saints left their property and had a mass exodus to the Utah territory. There Brigham fought the US government over the right to practice their religion as they saw fit including self determination as a territory and polygamy (or more properly polygyny - one husband with multiple wives).
Several decades later and after Brigham's death John Taylor was appointed as president of the LDS Church. The Saints desired statehood and after losing several supreme court cases on the issue of polygamy the federal government threatened to seize all of the property that the church held, imprison all of the men who practiced polygamy and imprison all church leaders regardless of their personal practice (much more severe than revoking tax exempt status). At that point John Taylor received a revelation that it was preferable the Saints be free to practice their faith minus plural marriage in order to obey the law of the land, than it would be to be completely disenfranchised to the point of their destruction.
The main body of the Saints accepted the revelation and by 1900 the practice was ended and those who would not stop were excommunicated. Small splinter groups that could not give up polygamy or argued against John Taylor's authority to make the decision to stop broke off and formed the origins of groups like the Fundamental LDS who practice polygyny today in defiance of the law.
An interesting historical note - the LDS doctrine that led to polygyny was not revoked by John Taylor - but the practice of that portion of the doctrine was suspended indefinitely.
As Brigham said, "we are a practical people".
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:10am |
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razorbacker Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:27am |
Sincere apology if already posted.
Muslim graveyard refuses to bury terrorists in Mumbai
A Muslim graveyard in the heart of Mumbai has broken with Islamic tradition and refused to bury the bodies of nine terrorists who were killed during the attack on India's financial capital.
The influential Muslim Jama Masjid Trust, which runs the 7.5-acre Badakabrastan graveyard, said it would not bury the gunmen because they were not true followers of Islam.
Hanif Nalkhande, a spokesman for the trust, said: "People who committed this heinous crime cannot be called Muslim. Islam does not permit this sort of barbaric crime."...
Unclaimed bodies thought to be Muslim are traditionally given to the nearest Islamic graveyard for burial after three days but that now looks impossible in Mumbai.
There are seven other Muslim graveyards in Mumbai, but the Jama Masjid's influence means none of the others are likely to accept the bodies....
Jain Sirmukadam, a senior police inspector, said: "The gunmen must be buried because we are bound to see that their last rites are performed according to the religion they follow. We have heard the trust's decision. We are considering what to do now."
I see this as a positive sign.
Were I not so fond of hogs, I'd recommend that they be fed to hogs and the resultant dung burned, but I like hogs. So I don't recommend that.
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Irish Rose Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:39am |
re: #408 vxbush
Oh, brother. Selfishness run amok. Now he has to pay off his wife, too!
It's her compensation for being forced to keep her anti-American, elitist yap shut on the campaign trail.
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rightside Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:43am |
re: #415 vxbush
It wasn't directly, but we were giving him some needling anyway!
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Ford_Prefect Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:45am |
re: #406 Irish Rose
Morning Rose. I must have missed that one. I will have to go check it out.
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:38:17am |
re: #417 reine.de.tout
It's just bad taste, unseemly, to be buying this ring in celebration, I guess, of Obama's "elevation" to the presidency, at a time when so many Americans are facing lay-offs, loss of homes, and general hard times.
He and WAB just don't get it.
No. They really have no clue, and this action simply speaks to them never being "regular" folks. I wish the press would have a field day with this and make them return the ring. Or better yet, return the ring and donate the money to a real charity instead of Wright's church.
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:38:35am |
re: #424 Irish Rose
It's her compensation for being forced to keep her anti-American, elitist yap shut on the campaign trail.
My first thought, too.
Hope you're feeling better soon, Rose...
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doriangrey Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:38:43am |
re: #419 scottishbuzzsaw
Oh dear...dorian, careful there or I'll have to pour this coffee in your...lap.
Hey now... I am after all a single, never married, kind of guy....
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Harry Tuttle Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:39:44am |
re: #417 reine.de.tout
It's just bad taste, unseemly, to be buying this ring in celebration, I guess, of Obama's "elevation" to the presidency, at a time when so many Americans are facing lay-offs, loss of homes, and general hard times.
He and WAB just don't get it.
It seems very royal of him to me.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:40:16am |
re: #415 vxbush
Just keep her away from Dorian his hogging all the Lizardettes daughters.
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:40:32am |
re: #424 Irish Rose
It's her compensation for being forced to keep her anti-American, elitist yap shut on the campaign trail.
DING DING! Give that gal a cup of coffee for being right.
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vxbush Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:40:57am |
re: #422 lifeofthemind
perks up
Oh, brother; how am I going to explain to her that there are lizards interested.....
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Karridine Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:41:42am |
re: #385 Crusty
When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.
Perhaps... there's still a rational way to divert this disaster, Crusty...
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jcbunga Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:42:12am |
"Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in every Roman Catholic school, Church leaders have said."
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
I wish I was making this up.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:42:29am |
