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Open | Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:13:48 pm PST

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

Dan Quayle

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1 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:15:34pm

Irony, thy name is Quayle.

2 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:15:40pm
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

James Carville and Dick Morris come to mind.

3 Silvergirl  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:16:23pm
4 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:16:30pm
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

Don't even get me started on Mohammed.

5 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:17:32pm

How about all the appointees who've managed to crawl out from under the bus?
/Rev. Wright! Are you in there?

6 ggt  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:17:34pm

weet dreams all!

7 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:17:35pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

James Carville and Dick Morris come to mind.

I think it's Carville's voice. I don't like his political leanings but he's got a great voice.

8 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:20:01pm

re: #7 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I think it's Carville's voice. I don't like his political leanings but he's got a great voice.

It's not his mug, that's for sure.

9 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:21:00pm

As wrong as it is for a man to say another is handsome, I must confess Carville is ugly and then some.

10 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:21:02pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

It's not his mug, that's for sure.

I thought, when I first arrived here, that that was who y'all meant by referring to Skeletor...

11 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:22:03pm

it's obvious Dan foresaw Juggy taking office.

/and yet the media said he was st00pid...... %-)

12 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:22:24pm

re: #10 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I thought, when I first arrived here, that that was who y'all meant by referring to Skeletor...

Rumor is he might replace Colmes. Or some babe would be nice, politics nothwithstanding.

14 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:23:53pm

re: #12 Abu Bin Squid

Rumor is he might replace Colmes. Or some babe would be nice, politics nothwithstanding.

First you'd have to find a babe who's left leaning and isn't in Hollywood.

15 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:24:21pm

re: #9 Abu Bin Squid

As wrong as it is for a man to say another is handsome, I must confess Carville is ugly and then some.

I'm not one to pick on another person's looks either- but that right there- Carville and Colmes- is one heaping pile of ugly.

16 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:25:58pm

re: #15 Sharmuta

I'm not one to pick on another person's looks either- but that right there- Carville and Colmes- is one heaping pile of ugly.

And doubly clueless.

17 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:26:38pm

*Runs in from the Jindal thread, hair on fire, grabs a pitcher of beer and pours it over his head*

Hi, Lizards!

18 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:27:42pm

re: #17 SurferDoc

*Runs in from the Jindal thread, hair on fire, grabs a pitcher of beer and pours it over his head*

Hi, Lizards!

Spicolli, how are you?

/

19 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:28:33pm

re: #18 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Spicolli, how are you?

/

Hysterical and wet!

20 Silvergirl  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:28:59pm

An upding for the laugh.

21 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:29:31pm

:-)

22 realwest  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:30:13pm

re: #17 SurferDoc
WAIT! You wasted all that beer?! Just cause your hair was on fire?!

23 gmsc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:30:33pm

Activists Seek Revocation of Tax Exempt Status of Churches That Supported Prop 8

San Francisco Chronicle: Tax-Exempt Benefit Disputed in Prop. 8 Campaign, by Matthai Kuruvila:

In the wake of Proposition 8's passage, opponents are railing that churches that supported the ballot measure violated their tax-exempt status.

It's a common accusation at the now-weekly protests, gaining enough traction that Geoff Kors, a member of the No on 8 executive committee, said lawyers are investigating the issue. "The Mormon church overstepped its boundaries by being a tax-exempt organization," said Sharone Negev, 54, of San Francisco, who has gone to protests in San Francisco and the Mormon temple in Oakland. "They clearly are not supposed to be involved in political activities."

But interviews with experts and activists on the issue say Prop. 8 opponents should look elsewhere for reasons to criticize the measure's supporters. "They almost certainly have not violated their tax exemption," said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, the leading advocacy organization on the issue. "While the tax code has a zero tolerance for endorsements of candidates, the tax code gives wide latitude for churches to engage in discussions of policy matters and moral questions, including when posed as initiatives."

(Hat Tip: How Appealing.) See also Cain: CA Churches Will Not Lose Tax Exemptions for Performing Same-Sex Marriages If Prop 8 Fails (10/23/08).

Trivia: When Joseph Smith formed the Mormon Church, the US government repeatedly tried to prosecute them for polygamy, while Joseph Smith kept claiming freedom of religion.

Finally, the US government threatened to revoke the Mormon Church's tax-exempt status. Shortly after that, Joseph Smith reported having a vision that God told him polygamy was wrong.

It's a miracle!

24 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:31:07pm

re: #22 realwest

WAIT! You wasted all that beer?! Just cause your hair was on fire?!

Oh, was that your beer? My beer is right here!

25 realwest  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:32:09pm

Well all y'all it's been interesting tonight - but it's WAAAY past my bedtime.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

26 ledger1  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:32:37pm

The “Barack Obama Crash” continues:

DJI 8149.09 -679.95 (-7.70%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET

People’s 401Ks are turning into .401Ks

On the bright side, after a brief dead cat bounce the NYT is plunging.

New York Times Co. Class A (NYT) 6.97 -0.57 (-7.56%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET

27 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:32:46pm

Nite, realwest!

28 democast  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:38:30pm

I usually post articles in the Spinoff-Links, not here in the dialogue, but your feedback could help me. Does anybody care whether I do or don't continue publishing? Does anybody like it? What do you get out of my publishing? Am I changing any minds? It seems like we keep slipping. As Steve Emerson writes today: "

Watching and reading the last 5 days of reports of the Mumbai attacks was an Alice in Wonderland experience. Even after an Islamic terrorist group took credit, TV anchors and reporters assiduously avoided the term Islamic terrorist. "


Obama keeps stocking-up on anti-Zionists who'll pariah-ify Israel and by proxy, Jewish people everywhere. Has it come to this - checkmate?

29 LeePro  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:43:01pm

re: #9 Abu Bin Squid

As wrong as it is for a man to say another is handsome, I must confess Carville is ugly and then some.

Carville and Colmes — both hatched from the same nest of snake eggs.

30 gmsc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:43:11pm

re: #26 ledger1

The “Barack Obama Crash” continues:

DJI 8149.09 -679.95 (-7.70%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET

People’s 401Ks are turning into .401Ks

On the bright side, after a brief dead cat bounce the NYT is plunging.

New York Times Co. Class A (NYT) 6.97 -0.57 (-7.56%) Dec 1, 4:04pm ET

Here's an interesting experiment:

Check out the Intrade US Presidential Election 2008 Historical Data. If you examine it closely, you'll notice that 0bama really starts to be considered a serious possibility as US President around Sept. 28-29 of this year.

OK, so let's check out how the Dow Jones Industrial Average has performed since that day.

31 gmsc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:45:51pm

re: #30 gmsc

Here's an interesting experiment:

Check out the Intrade US Presidential Election 2008 Historical Data. If you examine it closely, you'll notice that 0bama really starts to be considered a serious possibility as US President around Sept. 28-29 of this year.

OK, so let's check out how the Dow Jones Industrial Average has performed since that day.

Also, notice by going back further, the market was comparatively stable (even though it was dropping slightly) up to that point.

However, since Barack 0bama has been considered a very real possibility as US President, the market has lost more than 25% of its value!

32 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:47:56pm

re: #31 gmsc

Also, notice by going back further, the market was comparatively stable (even though it was dropping slightly) up to that point.

However, since Barack 0bama has been considered a very real possibility as US President, the market has lost more than 25% of its value!

Barack Obama: making stocks so cheap that even poor people can afford them. Share your stock!

/

33 ledger1  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:51:52pm

re: #30 gmsc

Here's an interesting experiment:

Check out the Intrade US Presidential Election 2008 Historical Data. If you examine it closely, you'll notice that 0bama really starts to be considered a serious possibility as US President around Sept. 28-29 of this year.

OK, so let's check out how the Dow Jones Industrial Average has performed since that day.

It looks like as Obama gained in the poles with his “tax the 401ks” the stock market started to tank. And, after his win it went down faster. Well, crashed is a better word. The Wilshire 5000 has probably lost 3 trillion dollars due to Obama.

Gad, Obama is a wrecking ball.

34 LeePro  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:53:40pm

re: #32 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Barack Obama: making stocks so cheap that even poor people can afford them. Share your stock!

/

Yup. Thanks to B. Hussein, my portfolio now ↓ 38%

35 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:55:46pm

re: #34 LeePro

Yup. Thanks to B. Hussein, my portfolio now ↓ 38%

Yeah, but just *think* of how you've helped other people with it! You've been very patriotic and stuff. Hope! Change!

/

36 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:56:36pm

re: #17 SurferDoc

*Runs in from the Jindal thread, hair on fire, grabs a pitcher of beer and pours it over his head*

Hi, Lizards!

down dig for wasting beer.....

/sorry: it's in the rules. %-)

37 ledger1  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:56:40pm

re: #34 LeePro

Mine is down about 9% since October - but it was 60% in cash at that time.

Thanks a lot Big 0!

38 gmsc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:57:41pm

re: #34 LeePro

Yup. Thanks to B. Hussein, my portfolio now ↓ 38%

Mine's ↓ 30%.

39 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:58:17pm

re: #22 realwest

WAIT! You wasted all that beer?! Just cause your hair was on fire?!

that's why i down dinged him....

/party foul on the LNDT

40 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:59:09pm

re: #36 redc1c4

down dig for wasting beer.....

/sorry: it's in the rules. %-)

I wrung out my shirt back into the pitcher!

41 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:59:34pm

re: #32 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Share your stock!


Just made some good turkey stock for stew. Come and get it!

42 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 1, 2008 11:59:48pm

re: #24 SurferDoc

Oh, was that your beer? My beer is right here!

funny.... the nurse said that was my urinal.....

hope you like Jeffewizzin. %-)

43 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:01:15am

Mine was up by 3 or 4% last week, but that was basically with someone else's play money.

44 stevieray  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:01:44am

re: #28 democast

Keep publishing. I know its like banging your head against the wall, but the Obama honeymoon will end, the MSM will either report the failures and survive or stay in rah rah mode and die, and his brand of leftism will be as welcome as Carter's.

If he governs from the left, he will fail. That's what the left does.

To quote a tired old sports cliche... you gotta be in the game to win it.

45 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:03:46am

Another thing... when gas was going for $4+/gal, Øbama said he was OK with the idea of $5 gas, his only problem was how quickly the price got there. At this rate he's going to have to slap a 300% tax on it to realize his dream.

46 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:06:27am

re: #45 Abu Al-Poopypants

Another thing... when gas was going for $4+/gal, Øbama said he was OK with the idea of $5 gas, his only problem was how quickly the price got there. At this rate he's going to have to slap a 300% tax on it to realize his dream.

Don't give him any ideas. ;)

47 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:08:00am

Source d'inspiration.

Here's another story you're unlikely to hear on the nightly news, but it's very worth reading. A reasonable translation can be had here.

We have shared our daily life with two US units for quite a while - they are the first and fourth companies of a prestigious infantry battalion whose name I will withhold for the sake of military secrecy. To the common man it is a unit just like any other. But we live with them and got to know them, and we henceforth know that we have the honor to live with one of the most renowned units of the US Army - one that the movies brought to the public as series showing “ordinary soldiers thrust into extraordinary events”. Who are they, those soldiers from abroad, how is their daily life, and what support do they bring to the men of our OMLT every day ? Few of them belong to the Easy Company, the one the TV series focuses on. This one nowadays is named Echo Company, and it has become the support company.

...

We seldom hear any harsh word, and from 5 AM onwards the camp chores are performed in beautiful order and always with excellent spirit. A passing American helicopter stops near a stranded vehicle just to check that everything is alright; an American combat team will rush to support ours before even knowing how dangerous the mission is - from what we have been given to witness, the American soldier is a beautiful and worthy heir to those who liberated France and Europe.

To those who bestow us with the honor of sharing their combat outposts and who everyday give proof of their military excellence, to those who pay the daily tribute of America’s army’s deployment on Afghan soil, to those we owned this article, ourselves hoping that we will always remain worthy of them and to always continue hearing them say that we are all the same band of brothers”.

It would appear that, for some Frenchmen, the spirit of Lafayette is alive and well.

48 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:08:33am

re: #33 ledger1

It looks like as Obama gained in the poles with his “tax the 401ks” the stock market started to tank. And, after his win it went down faster. Well, crashed is a better word. The Wilshire 5000 has probably lost 3 trillion dollars due to Obama.

Gad, Obama is a wrecking ball.

that's the call of the wrecking ball.....

sorry i couldn't find the good version. %-(

49 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:09:21am

re: #31 gmsc

At least it's looking like we'll have the filibuster, assuming of course that the republicans actually remember that they're supposed to STICK TOGETHER...

Also, I'd take Clinton 2.0 over Stalin Junior any day, and from the looks of things that's what we'll be getting. Will it suck? Yes, but it could be worse.

If nothing else, at least it will be entertaining.

/Not the good kind of entertaining, mind you, but sometimes it's quite satisfying to be like Nelson Muntz on the sidelines pointing your finger and yelling "Haw-haw!" as all hell breaks loose around you...

50 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:10:29am

gmsc: Thanks for putting that up. Inspiring

51 LeePro  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:10:32am

re: #43 Fenway_Nation

Mine was up by 3 or 4% last week, but that was basically with someone else's play money.

My ↓ 38% is since about this time last year (my portfolio's historical high point).

I don't usually pay that much attention to short term gains/losses. It's the overall picture that matters most to me.

52 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:11:27am

re: #49 NoSpam

At least it's looking like we'll have the filibuster, assuming of course that the republicans actually remember that they're supposed to STICK TOGETHER...

Also, I'd take Clinton 2.0 over Stalin Junior any day, and from the looks of things that's what we'll be getting. Will it suck? Yes, but it could be worse.

If nothing else, at least it will be entertaining.

/Not the good kind of entertaining, mind you, but sometimes it's quite satisfying to be like Nelson Muntz on the sidelines pointing your finger and yelling "Haw-haw!" as all hell breaks loose around you...

Interesting take. I agree, if we're going to have a bad president, Clinton 2.0 is preferably to Stalin Junior.

53 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:12:11am

re: #49 NoSpam

At least it's looking like we'll have the filibuster, assuming of course that the republicans actually remember that they're supposed to STICK TOGETHER...

well, i'm guessing you can pretty much count on McLame going over the fence every chance he gets, and likely dragging one or more fools with him.

what we need is party discipline, and the RNC is not the folks who will provide that,

54 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:13:11am

re: #50 SurferDoc

gmsc: Thanks for putting that up. Inspiring

You're welcome.

We need to remember to post good news every so often, too!

55 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:13:49am

re: #52 gmsc

The rate of recycled Clinton appointees is something like 63% so far.

Hopechange!

56 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:13:55am
57 LeePro  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:14:26am

re: #28 democast

Keep posting, democast!
This may very well be the only place some people even get a glimpse of the truth out there ! ! !

I know it seems futile sometimes, but if not us then WHO?

58 LeePro  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:16:42am

re: #40 SurferDoc

I wrung out my shirt back into the pitcher!

Eeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww ! ! !

% Þ

59 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:18:00am

re: #53 redc1c4

well, i'm guessing you can pretty much count on McLame going over the fence every chance he gets, and likely dragging one or more fools with him.

what we need is party discipline, and the RNC is not the folks who will provide that,

For McCain it's mostly on the immigration/bailout stuff. Yes, we are going to be stuck with massive bailouts, unfortunately.

Though I don't think the immigration stuff will fly...I don't really have a good reason for this other than my own personal feeling. I think it will probably get shoved to the back in favor of different shit-tastic offerings like healthcare.

60 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:18:57am

Øbama's Secretary of Defense is some Carter Administration National Security Council staffer.

:^)

61 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:20:19am

re: #56 gmsc

Hmmm . . . the toolbag is leaving China and heading into Mongolia now.

The Flying Tools!

It's a sign from the gods, symbolic of Obama's cabinet.

62 ledger1  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:20:32am

re: #38 gmsc

Mine's ↓ 30%.

When the Big 0 started with his “We will redistribute the wealth” theme I started selling. When he proposed taxing 401Ks and IRAs then I really put the pedal-to-the-metal and really started selling.

I am not going to buy until I hear better news on both those plans. Heck, I might as well invest in Chinese stocks. They probably have more of a free market compared to Zero’s economic redistribution plan. Further I am doubtful the big 0 can damage Chinese stocks. He can only wreck what he is close to.


I Don’t even want contemplate the limp response to an other terror attack from Zero ("Oh, we must look at the root cause, light a peace candle and negotiate through the UN…As President it is time we pay more to the UN.”).

63 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:23:48am

re: #61 NoSpam

Got a new bookmark... thanks/

64 LeePro  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:24:53am

re: #60 Abu Al-Poopypants

Øbama's Secretary of Defense is some Carter Administration National Security Council staffer.

:^)

He is also Bush's appointee (after Rummy), and seems to be doing a fair job in Iraq and Afghanistan...

65 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:26:28am

re: #62 ledger1

I am not going to buy until I hear better news on both those plans. Heck, I might as well invest in Chinese stocks. They probably have more of a free market compared to Zero’s economic redistribution plan. Further I am doubtful the big 0 can damage Chinese stocks. He can only wreck what he is close to.

VICTORY THROUGH DEFEAT (Hat tip: Tim Blair)

Communism was meant to bring down capitalism. Instead:

China’s President has issued a rare warning to the Communist Party, telling officials the global economic crisis could shake its 59-year grip on power.

Capitalism wins even when it’s losing.

66 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:27:16am

re: #62 ledger1

The funny thing about China is, as long as you don't actively criticize the gov't, you can pretty much get away with whatever you want over there. I saw some pretty interesting things. I also stepped in an open industrial sewer while walking around.

Also, Mao has pretty much become like a mascot character to them, like a communist Mickey Mouse. I am amused by this.

67 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:27:56am

re: #63 Mel Lono

gmsc's the one who actually found the website.

68 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:28:00am

re: #61 NoSpam

The Flying Tools!

It's a sign from the gods, symbolic of Obama's cabinet.

well, there goes another hour of my day.....

you bastard!

69 ledger1  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:28:11am

re: #48 redc1c4

That's a good one ;)

70 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:30:23am

re: #67 NoSpam

gmsc's the one who actually found the website.

Actually, it was a running gag on last night's open thread here at LGF.

The real credit should go to DesertSage, in message #4

71 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:32:59am

re: #68 redc1c4

well, there goes another hour of my day.....

you bastard!

If you follow it for 2 full hours, you'll see it go around the Earth!

72 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:33:57am

re: #69 ledger1

we try.....%-)

73 ledger1  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:34:32am

re: #65 gmsc

That is good to hear!

74 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:35:52am

re: #70 gmsc

Actually, it was a running gag on last night's open thread here at LGF.

The real credit should go to DesertSage, in message #4

what worries me is that there are already satellites flying for Skynet.

75 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:36:55am

re: #65 gmsc

Good find and the best news I've heard all day.
Welcome to the Hotel

A special treat for Californiaaaas.

76 Fibonacci  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:37:24am

And the sheeple bleat in unison:
Obaaaaah Ma.
Obaaaaah Ma.

77 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:38:04am

re: #71 gmsc

If you follow it for 2 full hours, you'll see it go around the Earth!

It's like that damn "Where is my airplane now?" screen that they have in some flights. Part of the reason I couldn't sleep on my last flight was beacuse the map's prominent display of my teeny little plane smack in the middle of the Pacific.

Yes. I know I'm floating a zillion miles above the Earth, kept in place by magic and fluid dynamics (mostly the magic). Please stop reminding me.

78 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:38:48am

re: #76 Fibonacci

As long as we don't hear any talk of Obama's promise to raise the chocolate ration to 20 grams, I think we'll come out of this one okay.

79 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:41:05am

re: #74 redc1c4

Red.. did you see the stars/moon tonite?

80 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:41:09am

re: #74 redc1c4

what worries me is that there are already satellites flying for Skynet.

Even worse, it's been self-aware for more than 11 years now! (Since Aug. 29, 1997)

81 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:43:34am

re: #77 NoSpam

It's like that damn "Where is my airplane now?" screen that they have in some flights. Part of the reason I couldn't sleep on my last flight was beacuse the map's prominent display of my teeny little plane smack in the middle of the Pacific.

Yes. I know I'm floating a zillion miles above the Earth, kept in place by magic and fluid dynamics (mostly the magic). Please stop reminding me.

maintenance isn't magic.......

/unless you're a 3rd world sort.

82 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:44:54am

re: #79 Mel Lono

Red.. did you see the stars/moon tonite?

and last night too.....

seems the man in the moon gets the Dow ticker........
biggest :( i've ever seen.

83 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:46:45am

Had a link to this on an earlier thread...Passe Comitatus...
But Drudge beat me to it.

84 LeePro  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:46:49am

It's that time again...

    ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

'Nite, {Lizards}!
¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

85 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:47:57am

re: #82 redc1c4

Split the uprights from where I was. Very cool.

86 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:50:27am

re: #84 LeePro

It's that time again...

    ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

'Nite, {Lizards}!
¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Good night!

87 NoSpam  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:50:28am

re: #80 gmsc

Wha?

88 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:50:55am

re: #82 redc1c4

biggest :( i've ever seen.


funny, had some bad times very recently, but that never came through til now.

89 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:51:33am

Night {LeePro}. Weet dreams.

90 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:53:09am

re: #88 Mel Lono

funny, had some bad times very recently, but that never came through til now.

make ya feel better, down in Oz and the ilk it's a happy face.

/just not my nature.

91 shanec99  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:54:00am

re: #4 Sharmuta

Don't even get me started on Mohammed.

There might be more appropriate adjectives to describe him... wierd is not the best among them.

92 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:54:57am

re: #84 LeePro

It's that time again...

    ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

'Nite, {Lizards}!
¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

yuck..... she drools in her sleep.

/grody to the max!

93 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:55:08am

Speaking of finances- I was thinking of getting this as a gift for my lil' nephew.....perhaps for no other reason than to see the look on my overbearing moonbat/vegan sister's face.

94 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:56:43am

re: #87 NoSpam

Wha?

It's a joke.

Back in 1969, the UK launched the first of its Skynet military satellites (They're up to Skynet 5 currently).

In the plot of the Terminator movies, "Skynet" is the name of a fictional series of artificially intelligent military satellites that controls all U.S. military weapons. Part of the plot of the Terminator movies is that, on August 29, 1997, they become self-aware, it deploys an army of Terminator robots against all of humanity, and eventually destroys all of humanity when it launches a full nuclear holocaust, making humanity extinct.

95 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 12:57:45am

re: #90 redc1c4

make ya feel better, down in Oz and the ilk it's a happy face.

/just not my nature.

It was until the clouds started rolling in. At least I caught a glimpse.

96 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:24am

re: #93 Fenway_Nation

That's just cruel and unjust towards your sister. Only thing worse would be showing up with a turducken for her to roast.

/keep up the good work

97 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:28am

re: #53 redc1c4

what we need is party discipline, and the RNC is not the folks who will provide that,

We wouldn't need that if we elected principled people.

98 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:31am

re: #95 Crux Australis

Wish You were Here
Til I kick you out the door.

99 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:00:48am

re: #94 gmsc

I thought Skynet launched the nukes first and sent the Terminators after the survivors once the dust cleared.

100 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:01:37am

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

I thought Skynet launched the nukes first and sent the Terminators after the survivors once the dust cleared.

I never could follow that poltline right.

101 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:04:08am

re: #100 gmsc

Only thing I didn't like about the third movie was that it said no matter what they did, the terminator future was inevitable.

/so much for "No fate, but what we make"

102 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:04:43am

Tool bag alert. Crossing tip of S. America. Heading East by East.

103 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:05:57am

re: #97 Sharmuta

We wouldn't need that if we elected principled people.

two sides of the same problem.....

the asshats keep promulgating asshats & we want to vote for Republicans.

104 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:09:09am

re: #96 BlueCanuck

Thanks Blue- actually, I thought that whole onestock site was pretty nifty and could actually serve some purpose beyond novelty. Let's say ya want to invest in a company that doesn't offer a Direct Stock Purchase Plan...and you're leery of paying comissions to brokers on an ongoing basis. One way around that could be to purchase a single stock from the onestock page.....and then continue to purchase more shares through that company's Dividend Reinvestment Program (where you can purchase more shares without a broker, but you have to own at least one share of the stock).

/Of course, there's the matter of the one-time transfer fee of about $40 that onestock charges.

105 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:09:19am

re: #98 Mel Lono

My favorite Pink Floyd

106 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:10:14am

re: #103 redc1c4

two sides of the same problem.....

the asshats keep promulgating asshats & we want to vote for Republicans.

Can't argue with that.

107 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:11:27am

re: #105 Crux Australis

My favorite Pink Floyd

My favorite Pink Floyd.

108 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:15:09am

re: #107 gmsc

My favorite Pink Floyd.

My favorite Pink Floyd

109 The Other Les  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:20:01am
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

— Dan Quayle


Okay. That qualifies as real wisdom.

110 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:20:44am

re: #109 The Other Les

Surprisingly prophetic.

111 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:21:10am

I like Blue's new avatar.

112 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:23:49am

re: #108 Sharmuta

Seamus
Now it's just getting silly. Always thought seamus was a basset.

113 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:24:46am

re: #105 Crux Australis

My favorite Pink Floyd

re: #107 gmsc

My favorite Pink Floyd.

re: #108 Sharmuta

My favorite Pink Floyd

Floyd Fight!

114 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:25:35am

re: #111 Sharmuta

Well thank you. *MWAH*

One of the many pictures I took this summer.

115 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:27:51am

Well this isn't my favourite Pink Floyd, it's up there.

/Crux Australis already posted it.

116 Dustyvet  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:34:29am

re: #61 NoSpam

The Flying Tools!

It's a sign from the gods, symbolic of Obama's cabinet.

The bag was one of the largest items ever lost by a spacewalking astronaut. NASA put the price tag of the tool bag at $100,000. I wonder if NASA will hit the astronaut with a Statement of Charges for the tool bag...?

117 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:34:48am

Way to kill the thread, Blue =P

118 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:35:56am

Tool bag preparing to enter Iranian airspace.

119 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:36:29am

re: #117 Fenway_Nation

I didn't know my keyboard was loaded, honest.

/I was only cleaning it.

120 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:37:11am

re: #118 Mel Lono

Tool bag preparing to enter Iranian airspace.

Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
/Crossing fingers

121 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:37:38am

re: #119 BlueCanuck

Is Blue really Plaxico Burress?

122 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:38:47am

re: #114 BlueCanuck

Well, Hon- us blue people have to stick together. ;)

123 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:39:08am

Proceed with Operation ScrewYou!

124 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:39:57am

re: #121 Fenway_Nation

Plaxico who?

/I think you just caught me sleeping

125 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:43:57am

re: #118 Mel Lono

Tool bag preparing to enter Iranian airspace.

re: #120 Fenway_Nation

Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
Please take out dinnerjacket's motorcade...
/Crossing fingers

Unless it knock dinnerjacket's motorcade into the "stan" countries, it's still in orbit.

126 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:46:13am

re: #124 BlueCanuck

Wide Reciever for the N.Y. Giants who was a busy guy this past weekend.

127 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:49:16am

re: #126 Fenway_Nation

Oh, that guy. Nope can't be me.

Rules for handguns.
1.) if carried, carried in a proper holster
2.) safety must always be engaged when holstered, and until actual use
3.) no round shall be chambered until you actually draw and intend to use
4.) NEVER EVER carry when alcohol is being imbibed. At home or in public

128 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:51:05am

re: #127 BlueCanuck

In which case, Burress apparently was 0-4 this weekend.

129 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:53:33am

re: #128 Fenway_Nation

I could probably add to that list and make it 0-n. I think he was breaking all the rules when it came to firearm use and ownership. Which makes me giggle when some one is shot by a weapon they were cleaning. Step one, ensure the breech is empty.

/how else are you going to clean the breech and barrel in the first place?

130 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:55:38am

re: #127 BlueCanuck

4.) NEVER EVER carry when alcohol is being imbibed. At home or in public

Well- that's odd. Who ever heard of drunken gun totters ever causing problems?

/

131 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 1:59:30am

I want fruitcup!

132 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

133 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:00:36am

Your wish is my command!

Sharmuta! :-)

134 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:01:01am

YES! Thanks, littleoldlady!

135 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:02:02am

re: #132 littleoldlady

Good morning littleoldlady. Thanks for the fruitcup.

/and the thread is saved yet again, as lizards lumber to the buffet to get that extra energy from sugars, vitamins and other good stuff.

136 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:02:08am

They had fruitcup at the casino tonight.....but who am I to turn away such consistently wonderful offerings?

137 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:02:21am

Yeah fruit! Thanks LoL.

138 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:02:54am

re: #132 littleoldlady
Yay! ( Slurp ) lol is teh rescue maven. [ I know Sharmuta, you is teh bomb]

139 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:03:20am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Fenway! :-)

tappin! :-)

140 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:03:22am

re: #132 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Good morning, LOL!

141 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:03:51am

Panhandler! :-)

/scrolls up to see who else is here.......

142 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:04:44am

gmsc! :-)

Howdy!

Mel! :-)

Dustyvet! :-)

143 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:05:37am

re: #141 littleoldlady

Morning Maam, sorry I'm late.

144 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:05:51am

re: #135 BlueCanuck

Limber lumbering lizards lapping lol's libations.

145 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:07:55am

Erik! :-)

The Les! :-)

/did I miss anyone?

146 Erik The Red  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:09:23am

re: #145 littleoldlady

Erik! :-)

The Les! :-)

/did I miss anyone?

Morning lol thank you for fruitcup.

147 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:10:36am

Cautious chameleons carefully consuming cantaloupe.

148 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:11:05am
149 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:12:47am

re: #147 tappin52

Cautious chameleons carefully consuming cantaloupe.

This thread brought to you by the letter G and number 7. Can you say "fruitcup" boys and girls?

150 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:12:47am

re: #148 Sharmuta

Be very careful when you are entering the number of copies you want next time. :)

/could have been worse it could have been something else multiplied.

151 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:14:06am

re: #148 Sharmuta

Doesn't get any cuter than that!

/wow, that's SOME litter!

152 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:17:43am

re: #149 Panhandler

I am reminded of a time when my husband and I were watching The Wiggles with our young granddaughter. My husband could barely tolerate the show and when they started to sing the Fruit Salad song he couldn't grab the remote fast enough.

153 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:20:45am

re: #152 tappin52

It makes you wonder just how many grandparents, or parents for that matter, who are still undergoing Barney councilling.

154 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:21:36am

Oh. Grandchildren. I forgot about that.

/just when you think it's safe to turn the TV back on
//with any luck, Barney will be dead by then...

155 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:22:14am

re: #153 Panhandler

BWAHAHA!

/raises hand

156 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:24:26am

re: #154 littleoldlady

Nope, they will still be parading that fossillized costume around for decades to come.

157 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:25:20am

re: #156 BlueCanuck

[shudder!]

158 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:26:04am

re: #153 Panhandler

It makes you wonder just how many grandparents, or parents for that matter, who are still undergoing Barney councilling.

Here's what I call instant Barney de-programming.
;)

159 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:26:29am

re: #157 littleoldlady

Yeah, and just think of the poor bastard stuck in it. I wonder if the poor person has a special therapist just to deal with that?

160 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:27:06am

re: #154 littleoldlady


Chances are Barney will be dead and buried- his still-beating heart torn out from its chest cavity and greedily devoured by something a hundred times as insufferable and saccharine....

161 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:27:07am

re: #156 BlueCanuck

Nope, they will still be parading that fossillized costume around for decades to come.


Dang it Blue, here's another ID thread.

162 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:28:07am

re: #161 Panhandler

Sorry, my bad.

/don't go there, don't go there.

//that stick hurts.

163 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:28:23am

re: #159 BlueCanuck

I think they have to switch costume-wearers every few weeks.

/it's the voice guy I worry about...

164 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:28:39am

Good morning people.

Doing big assignment #1 of 2 due for tomorrow. Gonna be a looooooong night/morning.

165 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:29:30am

re: #160 Fenway_Nation

Yeah, well, we can dream can't we. Perhaps we can have a contest between Barney and the latest Palistinian suffering mouse.

166 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:30:38am

re: #164 TheMatrix31

Have you considered switching Majors to Interior Design?

167 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:30:43am

re: #159 BlueCanuck

Yeah, and just think of the poor bastard stuck in it. I wonder if the poor person has a special therapist just to deal with that?

Don't worry. David Joyner has other roles outside of Barney to keep him well-adjusted.

168 akak  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:32:01am

If the Chinese can now destroy the space station from space, can they also destroy military satellite's with same technology?

169 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:32:40am

re: #168 akak

If the Chinese can now destroy the space station from space, can they also destroy military satellite's with same technology?

Or even toolbags that are head for Argentina?

170 gmsc  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:32:50am

Good night, all!

171 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:33:39am

Matrix! :-)

'Night, gmsc!

akak! :-)

172 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:34:06am

re: #166 Panhandler

Have you considered switching Majors to Interior Design?

Definitely not. I don't have the...uh...."sense" for that.

....not that there's anything wrong with that.

173 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:36:40am

Tool bag to take a left turn. I said Right!

174 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:38:09am

re: #167 gmsc

You call that career well adjusted? Never mind, have yourself a good night.

175 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:39:04am

Damn.. missed the screen capture. We could have had Peru! Anybody play Risk, i mean like in the last 20 years?

176 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:39:21am

re: #173 Mel Lono

I can't believe we are watching this.

/I can't believe I am watching this.

177 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:39:35am

re: #173 Mel Lono

Tool bag to take a left turn. I said Right!

It's pining for the fjords. Note that it will be passing Canaveral tomorrow.

178 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:40:15am

re: #175 Mel Lono

Do any of the online versions count?

/tentatively raises hand

179 Buster Bunny  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:41:34am

Toolbag just went past the tip of South America.

Can you get a tourist visa for this toolbag .. its really sight seeing around the world ... ?

180 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:42:07am

re: #178 BlueCanuck

yep. is that the one on addicting games online eh?

181 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:42:14am

re: #179 Buster Bunny

Wouldn't want it's itinerary. Hardly enough time to stop for food and pictures.

182 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:42:50am

re: #176 BlueCanuck

NASA's version of "Where's Waldo"

183 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:43:59am

Any kids watching, it's way past bedtime. But if you want to pass geography 1, not a bad screensaver.

184 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:44:35am

Is it true that Sarah Palin has a tattoo of the Big Dipper?

Interesting -----> my username

185 gregg  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:20am

According to the MN Secretary of State website, Al Fraken is now ahead by 4237 votes (91.13% of the ballots counted).

Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman 1,103,291
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken 1,107,528

Stuart Smalley say hello to Washington DC?

186 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:37am

re: #184 Crux Australis

Nope, she's got a southern cross.

187 Buster Bunny  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:40am

Toolbag goes to Gibraltar - heading for the sunshine ...

What a bag .. its got taste !

188 Panhandler  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:43am

re: #181 BlueCanuck

Wouldn't want it's itinerary. Hardly enough time to stop for food and pictures.

When Aldrin, Armstrong and Collins came back from their Lunar trip they hac to fill out a lot of paperwork. One form was for missed meals due to travel. They had to check "None" as "Goverment quarters and messing were provided".

189 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:45:58am

re: #184 Crux Australis

Or in English, the Southern Cross. :)

190 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:46:48am

Good Morning LGF.
The crisis in Canadian national politics continues to deepen. The 3 opposition parties announced yesterday that they have signed a formal deal to form a coalition government as soon as they get a chance to defeat the minority Conservative Government of Stephen Harper. Under the deal the Liberal Party (centre left) and the New Democratic Party (socialist) have agreed to combine forces until June, 2011, and have secured the support of the Parti Quebecois (separatist) until at least Spring, 2010.
Unless the Conservatives take the extraordinary step of proroguing (suspending) Parliament for up to 11 months, the leftist/separatist coalition will get a chance to vote down the Harper government as early as next Monday.
Under the coalition deal the new Prime Minister will be none other than the outgoing leader of the Liberal Party Stephane Dion, who less than 2 months ago led his party to its worst electoral defeat in over a hundred years, and who in disgrace was forced only last month to announce his intention to resign the Liberal leadership by May, 2009.
This move to negate the recent Conservative electoral victory is apparently quite legal from a constitutional point of view but if the power grab proceeds it will represent the closest thing to a coup d'etat that Canada will have ever experienced. There is little doubt that the government will become and remain weak and unstable for the foreseeable future - the last thing Canadians need during this critical period.
This is a cynical, dishonest, anti-democratic, contemptible, dirty, back-room deal between the power-hungry failed liberals, the lunatic fringe socialists and the scheming, Canada-hating Quebec separatists.
WAKE UP CANADA!

191 shiplord kirel  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:48:04am

In my comments on the spin-off link to Charles Vick's new article on Iranian and North Korean missiles, I mentioned Mr. Vick's amazing record of unraveling then-secret Soviet and Chinese projects during the Cold War. He scooped official sources time after time, with predictions and analyses that turned out to be wholly accurate when Soviet records finally became available in the 1990s.
Another of his feats was the determination that the Soviet's Proton booster had actually been designed as a monster ICBM to deliver a postulated 100 megaton warhead.
Like his research on the N-1 Moon rocket, his conclusions about Proton were widely rejected at the time (ca. 1970) but turned out to be true.

192 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:48:09am

re: #190 Spare O'Lake

What do you catch with that lure?

193 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:48:31am

re: #180 Mel Lono

No such thing as online addicting games.

194 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:49:21am

re: #190 Spare O'Lake

If this opposition block pulls it off, won't it be the first time in 80+ years that there's been a change of government in Canada without an election?

Sort of a bloodless coup d'etat?

/Someone gets some Canadian channels on XM

195 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:10am

re: #193 BlueCanuck

read that.. agree

196 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:27am

re: #194 Fenway_Nation

Yes, that's correct. As well it will never have happened so soon after an election. The current government hasn't even had a chance to table a budget for the coming fiscal year.

I think the Libs and NDP are pissed that the Conservatives aren't bailing out any of their core supporters, i.e. unions.

197 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:53am

re: #192 Mel Lono

What do you catch with that lure?

Mostly largemouth bass and smallmouth bass, and the occasional fascist troll.

198 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:54am

re: #174 BlueCanuck

No way.....Barney was a CTU SWAT operative in 24?

/Who does the background checks there?

199 shiplord kirel  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:51:58am

Reminds me. Are the moonbat fringe dwellers still trying to impeach Bush?

200 Erik The Red  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:52:07am

re: #153 Panhandler

It makes you wonder just how many grandparents, or parents for that matter, who are still undergoing Barney councilling.

Not just grandparents. Spare a thought for us parents of young kids. If I never hear Barney again it will be to soon.

201 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:52:49am

re: #196 BlueCanuck


What (if any) recourse does the voting public have?

202 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:53:24am

re: #196 BlueCanuck

the Conservatives aren't bailing out any of their core supporters, i.e. unions.


We have no part in this.

203 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:54:47am

re: #199 shiplord kirel


Yes....because the world can't wait!

204 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:55:53am

re: #197 Spare O'Lake

Well said... i'm a golden, spooked easily, rises in early morn, eats what catches my fancy. Lives free and dies in a pan.

205 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:56:03am

re: #201 Fenway_Nation

Another election? If there is a coalition I don't count on it lasting too long. There's a post in the linkviewer under Canada that leads to the National post column that talks about that actually.

206 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:57:56am

re: #186 Mel Lono

Nope, she's got a southern cross.

Sirius-ly? LOL

207 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 2:58:23am

Morning Lizards!

enjoying my fruitcup

208 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:01:43am

re: #194 Fenway_Nation

If this opposition block pulls it off, won't it be the first time in 80+ years that there's been a change of government in Canada without an election?
Sort of a bloodless coup d'etat?
/Someone gets some Canadian channels on XM

Exactly correct. Canada has no history of coalition governments. Even though we often get minority governments, they usually manage to muddle along for a couple of years until the next election.
This is a game-changer.

209 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:03:03am

What's in the fruitcup?

210 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:04:04am

re: #209 Crux Australis

What's in the fruitcup?

Only red knows for sure. *hic*

211 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:06:55am

re: #209 Crux Australis

What's in the fruitcup?

Hopefully Red Bull, or something that will keep me awake for a long time.

212 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:07:33am

re: #209 Crux Australis

Picky, picky!

/why look a gift fruitcup on the mouth?

213 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:08:43am

re: #208 Spare O'Lake

My initial thought was 'dipshit leftists emboldened by an 0bama victory'.....

I'm not really backing away from that one.

214 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:10:37am

re: #204 Mel Lono

There is no better place on a warm summer dawn than being anchored off a glassy calm lake weedline, casting a trusty old surface plug...

215 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:11:20am

re: #212 littleoldlady

Picky, picky!

/why look a gift fruitcup on the mouth?

You sound like my parents when I visit and ask what's for dinner. Sorry.

216 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:11:50am

re: #213 Fenway_Nation

Still thinking about firing off a letter to my MP. He might be a Liberal Fiberal, but he should listen to me. Going to the protest on Saturday at Queens Park against this coalition.

217 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:14:40am

re: #215 Crux Australis

Your parents are NICE!

/around here it's "Just shut up and it eat it, already!"

;-)

218 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:15:30am

re: #216 BlueCanuck

It's hopeless.....your cause lacks giant paper maiche puppets.

219 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:17:27am

re: #213 Fenway_Nation

My initial thought was 'dipshit leftists emboldened by an 0bama victory'.....
I'm not really backing away from that one.

Jack Layton (*spit*), the leader of the NDP (*spit*), attended the Dem convention and brazenly appropriated a whole bunch of Obamaspeak into his own campaign rhetoric.
These lefties are drooling at the prospect of using the current economic downturn as an excuse to SPEND, SPEND, SPEND.

220 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:18:20am

re: #217 littleoldlady

I love when my sons come to visit. They always eat all of the leftovers and make cleaning the fridge easy.

221 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:19:16am

re: #219 Spare O'Lake

Don't forget, TAX TAX TAX!

222 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:21:44am

Good morning Lizard Nation.

223 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:21:45am

re: #22 realwest It was Miller high life.
Rustler

224 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:22:25am

re: #221 BlueCanuck

Shhhhh - we're not supposed to know that just yet.
LOL.

225 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:22:50am

The champagne of bottled beer?

226 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:23:47am

re: #220 tappin52

My daughter is the opposite. Day after Thanksgiving - refrigerator LOADED with leftovers - "There's nothing to EAT!"

/the urge to kill...

227 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:25:49am

re: #226 littleoldlady

My daughter is the opposite. Day after Thanksgiving - refrigerator LOADED with leftovers - "There's nothing to EAT!"

/the urge to kill...

Send her out to CA. I'll take her out for dinner :)

228 tappin52  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:26:07am

re: #226 littleoldlady

The days after Thanksgiving are not going to see me cooking at all. Its everyone for themselves til I recoup.

229 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:26:45am

re: #224 Spare O'Lake

I am just going on past performance.

/I DON'T have a memory of a goldfish when it comes to politics and history.

230 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:26:55am

The Chairman of Ford is going to drive a Ford back to DC to seek a bailout.
What is the over & under of the auto breaking down?

231 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:27:51am

re: #227 TheMatrix31

And she'll follow you around forever! ;-)

re: #228 tappin52

Yup!

/not to mention I can't afford to buy any more food at that point...

232 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:27:55am

re: #227 TheMatrix31

Hmmm, what's with all the single lizards hitting on the matron lizards daughters?

/Shades of Dorian threatening to stalk DT's daughter yesterday morning. ;)

233 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:28:42am

Stalk my daughter!

/PLEASE!

;-)

234 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:28:51am

Looks like the Labor Party in Australia are taxing and spending their way out of coming economic problems or so they think.

When the Labor Party comes to power in Australia you can almost guarantee that there are deficit budgets, tax increases and more unemployment.

235 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:29:14am

re: #226 littleoldlady

My daughter is the opposite. Day after Thanksgiving - refrigerator LOADED with leftovers - "There's nothing to EAT!"

/the urge to kill...

In my family kids don't do leftovers. Strictly parent food. LOL.

236 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:30:22am

re: #233 littleoldlady

Not me, she's too young for my liking. ;)

237 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:30:27am

re: #232 BlueCanuck

dorian hits on everyone *LOL*

238 Luigi  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:30:46am

Suddenly, from out of nowhere, they're going to deploy our military in American streets under the executive power of the President. Apparently, Bush has wanted this for a while but now, lo and behold, the idea is gaining traction..

[Link: news.google.com...]

This comes part and parcel with some new warning about terror attacks unwrapped by ... Joe Biden..

[Link: news.google.com...]

Since the end of the Civil War the US military has been restricted from prowling American streets. Now we are going to give the authority to do that to Barack Obama.

Just watch. They'll be using the military in the cities in 2012 to enforce mandatory voting.

239 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:33:24am

re: #232 BlueCanuck

Hmmm, what's with all the single lizards hitting on the matron lizards daughters?

/Shades of Dorian threatening to stalk DT's daughter yesterday morning. ;)

Hey, at least I'm trying to find a conservative girl!

240 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:33:43am

re: #237 rightside

dorian hits on everyone *LOL*

THE CAD!

Good morning, Lizards!

241 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:34:38am

Good morning {goddess}, ready to take on the day?

242 nonic  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:35:51am

re: #220 tappin52

I love when my sons come to visit. They always eat all of the leftovers and make cleaning the fridge easy.

I can top that. Nowadays my sons do all the cooking, too.

243 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:35:59am

re: #241 BlueCanuck

Good morning {goddess}, ready to take on the day?

{BlueCanuck} I think so! I got lots of chores done yesterday--it's amazing how just changing light bulbs ibrightens one's outlook!

244 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:37:10am

Mandatory sentencing laws in New York dictate 2.5 years in jail for having a gun not registered in the state.
Do they make an exception for Plaxico Buress, or is he toast?

245 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:37:47am

re: #243 goddessoftheclassroom

{BlueCanuck} I think so! I got lots of chores done yesterday--it's amazing how just changing light bulbs ibrightens one's outlook!

iBrighten? That better not be another damn Apple product!

246 NYCHardhat  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:39:57am

Good morning. Hope you all have a wonderful day making money.

247 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:40:01am

re: #245 TheMatrix31

iBrighten? That better not be another damn Apple product!

Whoops! I was going for the pun and committed a typo. My apologies!

248 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:41:44am

I could use a little iBrighten... :-/

Good day, ALL!™

249 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:43:40am

re: #240 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

250 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:44:03am

re: #248 littleoldlady

carpe diem, lol

251 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:45:02am

Bye littleoldlady, have a profitable day.

/any way you can get it.

252 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:45:23am

I didn't do eet

253 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:46:32am

re: #244 opnion

Mandatory sentencing laws in New York dictate 2.5 years in jail for having a gun not registered in the state.
Do they make an exception for Plaxico Buress, or is he toast?

first offense ,,,,, didn't mean it, your honor ,,,, never kicked a puppy ,,,,,,gave to toys for tots on the way in ,,,,,

slap on the wrist ,,, fine, community service, probation

254 srb1976  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:48:16am

Morning folks....hope everyone is well!
Trying to wake little man up gently, and it's actually cold outside.
(being grateful for defroster in the truck as I am a bit too short to effectively scrape the windshield)

255 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:49:30am

re: #248 littleoldlady

I could use a little iBrighten... :-/

Good day, ALL!™

{littleoldlady}!

In your opinion, is it worth a round-trip drive of about 120 miles and three and a half hours of travel time on a Saturday to save $50 in shipping costs?

256 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:49:32am

re: #253 sattv4u2

first offense ,,,,, didn't mean it, your honor ,,,, never kicked a puppy ,,,,,,gave to toys for tots on the way in ,,,,,

slap on the wrist ,,, fine, community service, probation

That sounds about right. The only thing that makes me think maybe not is Michael Vick. I know that the crimes are different, but it should bother Buress & his lawyer.

257 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:54:54am

re: #255 goddessoftheclassroom

{littleoldlady}!

In your opinion, is it worth a round-trip drive of about 120 miles and three and a half hours of travel time on a Saturday to save $50 in shipping costs?

goddess! :-)

No.

*p00f!*

258 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:56:53am

re: #253 sattv4u2

He has a prior weapons charge tho they talking mandatory 3.5 on Plax if found guilty.

259 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:58:09am

re: #257 littleoldlady

goddess! :-)

No.

*p00f!*

THANK YOU!

Any other points of view?

260 srb1976  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:59:10am

re: #259 goddessoftheclassroom

absolutely not worth it!

261 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 3:59:16am

re: #258 Rancher

He has a prior weapons charge tho they talking mandatory 3.5 on Plax if found guilty.

His team mate tried to hide the weapon. What about him? If there is a crime he abetted.

262 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:00:06am

Me after red's fruitcup

263 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:02:49am

re: #261 opnion

Yeah I was taling about Antonio Pierce Yesterday he's lawyered up and in negotiations atm to avoid charges. Dumb of him to hide the gun after the fact especially since he was calling plax dumb for bringing the gun to a club. Also dumb was the fact that he listened when Plax asked him not to call an ambulance because there would be questions and Plax had priors.

264 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:03:20am

Got to run--thanks for the shopping advice!

265 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:04:52am

There was also supposedly a 3rd giant present but no word on if he is/was connected with the incident.

266 srb1976  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:05:08am

I think I may need dynamite to get the little man out of bed.....lights on, movie running, baby sister playing in his room.....still fast asleep

267 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:06:33am

Would it not have been delicioulsy ironic if Plaxico "shot himself in the foot" instead of his leg !?!?

268 Rune  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:07:05am
It has also made it clear that if India again masses troops on the border, Pakistani forces would be diverted away from the tribal areas, allowing militants there to focus on Afghanistan.

Mumbai attacks ‘were a ploy to wreck Obama plan to isolate al-Qaeda’

- Pakistan is increasingly using its Taliban problem in the north as blackmail against the coalition in Afghanistan and any action India may take. But if Pakistan is unwilling or unable to maintain national sovereignty in those tribal areas, then they are no longer Pakistani territories and any other nation is free to take the military steps deemed necessary, without Pakistan having a say in the matter.

269 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:07:42am

Nah the Irony is he fumbled the gun.

270 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:07:48am

re: #266 srb1976

I think I may need dynamite to get the little man out of bed.....lights on, movie running, baby sister playing in his room.....still fast asleep

Thansk for clarifying. In your #254, I was a little worried about who your "little man" was

271 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:14:23am

Mornin lizards

272 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:17:42am

re: #268 Rune

Mumbai attacks ‘were a ploy to wreck Obama plan to isolate al-Qaeda’
- Pakistan is increasingly using its Taliban problem in the north as blackmail against the coalition in Afghanistan and any action India may take. But if Pakistan is unwilling or unable to maintain national sovereignty in those tribal areas, then they are no longer Pakistani territories and any other nation is free to take the military steps deemed necessary, without Pakistan having a say in the matter.

You are of course repeating Obama's stated policy on US intent to strike terrorist targets in the tribal areas if Pakistan will not do so. The question therefore becomes:
Will he do what he said he would do?
This may well be Obama's first major test.

273 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:20:21am

re: #272 Spare O'Lake
I can easily see him screwing the pooch on this one too. PLus the 3 or 4 that will follow in hte next 6 months.
Rustler

274 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:22:43am

re: #272 Spare O'Lake

You are of course repeating Obama's stated policy on US intent to strike terrorist targets in the tribal areas if Pakistan will not do so. The question therefore becomes:
Will he do what he said he would do?
This may well be Obama's first major test.

Right now its Bush's last, let's not look that far forward shall we? (that thought is depressing)

275 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:23:03am

re: #273 Rancher

I can easily see him screwing the pooch on this one too. PLus the 3 or 4 that will follow in hte next 6 months.
Rustler

The poor pooch is gonna need a can of mace and a bodyguard./

276 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:23:50am

re: #275 Spare O'Lake

The poor pooch is gonna need a can of mace and a bodyguard./

Or a whole jar of lube.


/bad blue, bad. . . . .

277 gregg  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:25:33am

From Bloomberg:

"GM, at risk of running out of operating cash this year, wants to stop paying union workers when plants are closed and there is no other work, people familiar with the company’s plans said."

What a novel idea.

278 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:25:47am

**sigh**

I still have a 10 page paper on the jury trial system to start.

279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:26:51am

re: #267 sattv4u2

Would it not have been delicioulsy ironic if Plaxico "shot himself in the foot" instead of his leg !?!?

Well, you know what they say, "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."

280 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:26:57am

re: #277 gregg

From Bloomberg:

"GM, at risk of running out of operating cash this year, wants to stop paying union workers when plants are closed and there is no other work, people familiar with the company’s plans said."

What a novel idea.

I'm wondering how many of those 'workers" do the same amount of work wheather the plant is open or not!

281 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:28:05am

re: #276 BlueCanuck

Or a whole jar of lube.


/bad blue, bad. . . . .

c'mere poochie poochie poochie

282 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:28:42am

re: #280 sattv4u2

I'm wondering how many of those 'workers" do the same amount of work wheather the plant is open or not!

Its their rice bowl.

283 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:29:24am

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, you know what they say, "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."

" ,,,,,,, I swear to God doctor, I was just bent over, minding my own business when this gerbil found it's way up my ass"

284 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:29:43am

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #283 sattv4u2

" ,,,,,,, I swear to God doctor, I was just bent over, minding my own business when this gerbil found it's way up my ass"

Barney Frank

285 Elcid  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:30:26am

Charles, I must ask.

Did Dan Rather pick the background for you in your PJTV ad, or was it Mary Mapes...You know the brick wall?-------------->

286 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:30:37am

re: #283 sattv4u2

" ,,,,,,, I swear to God doctor, I was just bent over, minding my own business when this gerbil found it's way up my ass"

lemmiwinks!

287 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:31:16am

re: #280 sattv4u2

I'm wondering how many of those 'workers" do the same amount of work wheather the plant is open or not!

How dare you malign big 3 auto workers. Don't you know that they have increased their productivity by a third? They now work 4 hours per shift instead of 3.
/

288 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:31:49am

re: #278 TheMatrix31

**sigh**

I still have a 10 page paper on the jury trial system to start.

When is it due?

289 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:32:13am

re: #287 Spare O'Lake

How dare you malign big 3 auto workers. Don't you know that they have increased their productivity by a third? They now work 4 hours per shift instead of 3.
/

Well they're at work for 4 instead of 3 hours, but 2 hours of that is a union meeting, 1 hour is their mandatory union coffee break.

290 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:33:00am

re: #288 MandyManners

When is it due?

Must be after deliberations.

291 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:33:53am

Well my relief is here and it's time to go. Stay scaly all.

292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:34:20am

re: #289 Hengineer

Well they're at work for 4 instead of 3 hours, but 2 hours of that is a union meeting, 1 hour is their mandatory union coffee break.

"We get up at twelve and go to work at one....
Take an hour for lunch and then at two we're done....
Jolly Good Fun....
Ha Ha Ha
Ho Ho Ho
And a couple of Lah di dahs
That's how we work the day away in the Merry Ole Land of Oz!"

293 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:34:30am

re: #289 Hengineer Don't forget the 2 union mandated cofee/smoking breaks.
rustler

294 Hengineer  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:34:46am

Time for breakfast and then work. Later Lizards

295 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:35:34am

re: #293 Rancher nm you said coffee : P i must still be under teh effects of fruit cup.

296 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:37:24am

Rofl U.S. in the process of creating Ethical cybornetic beings now. FnF starts teh segment with the opening scene from one of the Terminator movies.

297 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:37:25am

re: #287 Spare O'Lake

Lets see if we can find a trend here

DETROIT ,,, Big Three ,,,,,, Union Workers ,,,,, Asking for a BAILOUT
ALABAMA ,, Honda,,, Hyundai ,,, Benz ,,NON Union ,,,,,, NOT asking
MISSISSIPPI ,,, Toyota ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, NON Union ,,,,,,,,NOT asking
GEORGAI ,,,,,,,, Kia ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NON Union ,,,,,,,,,NOT asking


naaahhhh ,,,, just a coincidence !

298 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:37:30am

The more I see the more I am convinced that Dan Quayle was a genius.

299 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:38:42am

re: #297 sattv4u2
Problem is the non big 3 are not American companies. A better analysis would be showing SW compared to the unionized airlines.

300 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:39:07am

re: #288 MandyManners

When is it due?

5pm tomorrow/today.

301 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:40:17am

Not that the unions aren't a big chunk of the need for bailouts among the big 3 but it's kinda hard for a Japanese, German or Korean automaker to ask the US for money.
Rustler

302 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:09am

Good Morning Lizards!

It is a nice 40 something degree day here in CT. I hope everyone is well.

Just a little holiday gift giving advise... don't give markers to a toddler.

303 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:18am

re: #300 TheMatrix31
Haha not quite time for teh red bull rush to finish then.

304 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:26am

re: #290 Hengineer

Must be after deliberations.

LOL!

305 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:29am

Good Morning, Mandy- did you see our friends at the stalker blog are now just making stuff up about LGF?

They're saying LGF supports the Kosovo Liberation Army. There's no link for that of course, so I went and got one for them.

Hope that helps- oh, wait.

306 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:41:33am

Worky Worky Earn ToFurkey!

307 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:42:02am

re: #300 TheMatrix31

5pm tomorrow/today.

Well, get cracking!

308 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:42:08am

re: #301 Rancher

Not that the unions aren't a big chunk of the need for bailouts among the big 3 but it's kinda hard for a Japanese, German or Korean automaker to ask the US for money.
Rustler

fixed that for ya

309 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:42:34am

re: #298 lifeofthemind

The more I see the more I am convinced that Dan Quayle was a genius.

An super genius. Like Wile E. Coyote.

310 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:43:33am

re: #23 gmsc

Activists Seek Revocation of Tax Exempt Status of Churches That Supported Prop 8

Trivia: When Joseph Smith formed the Mormon Church, the US government repeatedly tried to prosecute them for polygamy, while Joseph Smith kept claiming freedom of religion.

Finally, the US government threatened to revoke the Mormon Church's tax-exempt status. Shortly after that, Joseph Smith reported having a vision that God told him polygamy was wrong.

It's a miracle!

Polygamy was revoked decades after Joseph Smith's death. It had more to do with Utah statehood than anything else.

311 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:06am

re: #309 Wyatt Earp You'd think with all the money he send's ACME's way he could just hire a hitman to take out the silly bird.

312 TheMatrix31  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:12am

re: #307 MandyManners

Well, get cracking!

Finishing up my other assignment at the moment :-

313 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:22am

re: #305 Sharmuta

Good Morning, Mandy- did you see our friends at the stalker blog are now just making stuff up about LGF?

They're saying LGF supports the Kosovo Liberation Army. There's no link for that of course, so I went and got one for them.

Hope that helps- oh, wait.

I heard LGF2 supports Breasts Not Bombs.

314 Harry Tuttle  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:30am

0bama presidency ends in 1510 days

315 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:44:52am

re: #306 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Worky Worky Earn ToFurkey!

At least you don't work here.

316 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:45:39am

re: #313 DistantThunder

I heard LGF2 supports Breasts Not Bombs.

LMAO!

317 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:45:48am

Funny the way Palin and Romney's churches play such a big role in there electability yet Obama's racist church had virtually none.
Rustler

318 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:45:48am

re: #305 Sharmuta

Good Morning, Mandy- did you see our friends at the stalker blog are now just making stuff up about LGF?

They're saying LGF supports the Kosovo Liberation Army. There's no link for that of course, so I went and got one for them.

Hope that helps- oh, wait.

I rarely check it out.

I wonder if the Jindal thread will cause them to claim Charles hates Christians and eats babies.

319 3 wood  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:46:08am

Good morning folks.

Look the the market to open up this morning as the futures indexes are pointing up 2 to 2.5%.

The Nikkei and Hang Seng got hammered last night, but I think that was in response to the US market dropping like a rock yesterday, with the 4th worst one day point drop ever.

It is clear that investors are running from any risk now. We are seeing a pattern of the market getting pounded and oversold, the market then rises a bit as people pick up the oversold bargains, and then the market gets crushed again as investors sell off at the first sign of more bad news.

Depending on what definition you want to use, we have been in a recession for either a few months or one year. That is really besides the point, because all that matters now is what the future holds. So far it holds prospect of more layoffs and dropping profits.

Gold dropped down to $776.80 and oil to $49.10, so oil is close to $100 cheaper now than it was just a few months ago.

320 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:46:46am

re: #314 Harry Tuttle

0bama presidency ends in 1510 days

Awesome! We need a countdown clock!

321 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:47:34am

Wow oil dropped under $50 awesome Hugo must be having kittens.

323 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:48:10am

re: #317 Rancher

Funny the way Palin and Romney's churches play such a big role in there electability yet Obama's racist church had virtually none.
Rustler

Yeah, be a church that hates america and portrays white citizens as evil - in full-throated voice, from the pulpit and recorded for posterity - no problem.

324 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:48:13am
325 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:48:16am

re: #318 MandyManners

They already say that.

326 USCMSNE  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:48:38am

Dan Quayle was a decent and good man. Sure, he had his gaffes. What was his biggest flap? The Murphy Brown single parent plea? That sure sounded like a speech Bill Cosby made too. Sounded even more like a speech Obama gave this year on missing Dads. Where was the ridicule? Where was the press skewering Obama on the Womans reserved right to raise her own children by herself if she damn well pleased? I heard an interview with him in 2003 after the Iraq issue flared up. I was truly impressed. He laid out the philosophy of GHWB's plan in the 90's for Iraq, where their shortcomings where with it, where there miscalculations where, and stated a concise argument defending the current war. He mentioned about how, at the time, an EOD detachment had just destroyed a cache of VX they found in the desert (the WMD realm is broader than nuclear alone). In a post 9/11 world, in light of all the Hussein regimes atrocities, we, the US, weren't going to stand for it anymore. The same media that propped Obama on his pedastal is the same media that wouldn't characterize Quayle as anything but infantile. It's a shame that he is only going to be remembered for being given a misspelled que card. By the way, anyone care to take a guess as to how that spelling bee kid, the one who was smarter than the VP, is doing now?

/I got my gear on... flame away...

327 gregg  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:49:27am

re: #301 Rancher

Not that the unions aren't a big chunk of the need for bailouts among the big 3 but it's kinda hard for a Japanese, German or Korean automaker to ask the US for money.
Rustler

I know it's a bit different, but Ford and GM asked the Swedish government for a bailout yesterday (for their Volvo and Saab brands).

328 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:50:53am

re: #325 Sharmuta

They already say that.

It must suck to be they.

329 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:51:28am

re: #326 USCMSNE


Simply this:

Dan Quayle=conservative=pure evil.
barry obama=liberal=sugar & spice and everything nice.

330 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:52:20am

re: #326 USCMSNE

Dan Quayle was a decent and good man. Sure, he had his gaffes. What was his biggest flap? The Murphy Brown single parent plea? That sure sounded like a speech Bill Cosby made too. Sounded even more like a speech Obama gave this year on missing Dads. Where was the ridicule? Where was the press skewering Obama on the Womans reserved right to raise her own children by herself if she damn well pleased? I heard an interview with him in 2003 after the Iraq issue flared up. I was truly impressed. He laid out the philosophy of GHWB's plan in the 90's for Iraq, where their shortcomings where with it, where there miscalculations where, and stated a concise argument defending the current war. He mentioned about how, at the time, an EOD detachment had just destroyed a cache of VX they found in the desert (the WMD realm is broader than nuclear alone). In a post 9/11 world, in light of all the Hussein regimes atrocities, we, the US, weren't going to stand for it anymore. The same media that propped Obama on his pedastal is the same media that wouldn't characterize Quayle as anything but infantile. It's a shame that he is only going to be remembered for being given a misspelled que card. By the way, anyone care to take a guess as to how that spelling bee kid, the one who was smarter than the VP, is doing now?

/I got my gear on... flame away...

He was a little geeky, just like GHWB, but I also head him speak articulately. Have you seen that You tube video of O late for multiple senate committee meetings and acting like a complete buffoon? Or the video of Joe Biden drunk? They are both completely disgraceful.

331 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:52:40am

re: #324 MandyManners

Is he gonna' swing today?


He just got his fair trial, to be followed in due time by a first class hanging.

332 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:53:35am

re: #331 lifeofthemind

He just got his fair trial, to be followed in due time by a first class hanging.

We wouldn't want the evil fucker to have a second-class hanging.

333 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:53:48am

How is WAB's new ring going to feed my children?

334 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:54:57am

re: #326 USCMSNE

I'll bite, what happened to the boy genius?

335 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:55:31am

re: #328 MandyManners

It must suck to be they.

You know it.

336 DistantThunder  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:57:00am

re: #333 rightside

How is WAB's new ring going to feed my children?

Or feed his starving brother? Let me tell you, if you are living on $1 a month - you are starving and malnourished. I bet his ribs show.

Turning your back on your own brother is a sign of bad character - allowing him to starve and live in completely deprivation and squalor - is SADISTIC - and proof of limited functioning conscience.

What would we think of Dan Quayle if he allowed a family member to starve in a shack while he lived in a mansion and bought his wife jewels? Morally bankrupt, or worse, I'd bet.

337 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 4:59:58am

re: #333 rightside

How is WAB's new ring going to feed my children?

She got a new ring? What kind?

338 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:00:21am

re: #336 DistantThunder

I'm surprised that the entire tribe hasn't shown up to join Auntie in America.

339 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:01:03am

re: #336 DistantThunder

Or feed his starving brother? Let me tell you, if you are living on $1 a month - you are starving and malnourished. I bet his ribs show.

Turning your back on your own brother is a sign of bad character - allowing him to starve and live in completely deprivation and squalor - is SADISTIC - and proof of limited functioning conscience.

What would we think of Dan Quayle if he allowed a family member to starve in a shack while he lived in a mansion and bought his wife jewels? Morally bankrupt, or worse, I'd bet.

His attitude toward his brother reminds me of the quote from Office Space: "It's not that I'm lazy. It's that I just don't care."

340 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:04:29am

re: #337 MandyManners

She got a new ring? What kind?


Malkin has a thread on this, the thing is Rhodium. No chance of BHO getting audited, pity.

341 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:05:01am

re: #336 DistantThunder

Definitely. I've come to the conclusion that barring a miracle, the drive-bys will never give conservatives a fair chance.

The talk of subisidizing them makes me now want to refer to them as Pravda.

342 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:06:09am

Typical narcissistic behavior re: using other people as tools.

[Link: www.laweekly.com...]

343 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:13am

re: #342 MandyManners

Typical narcissistic behavior re: using other people as tools.

[Link: www.laweekly.com...]

What else do you expect from "King Tool."

344 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:21am

re: #337 MandyManners

Rumor of buying her this.

345 3 wood  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:43am

One of the issues related to the Auto industry situation, if I understand their union contracts correctly, is the laid off workers are supposed to be paid just about as much for not working (including benefits) as for working.

That is why the declaration of bankruptcy is so crucial to working out a feasible solution to this. Those contract provisions are simply not affordable. I'm not a lawyer, but the only way to do that during the life of the contract (unless the Unions are willing to waive those provisions, which I doubt) is to declare bankruptcy and get those contracts canceled.

346 Crux Australis  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:07:54am

re: #341 rightside

Definitely. I've come to the conclusion that barring a miracle, the drive-bys will never give conservatives a fair chance.

Same the whole world over unfortunately.

347 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:09:42am

re: #340 lifeofthemind

Malkin has a thread on this, the thing is Rhodium. No chance of BHO getting audited, pity.

I don't see a lot wrong with that. It's HER money, too, after all.

Besides, doesn't she deserve a pretty bauble for stifling herself for months?

348 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:10:29am

re: #343 Wyatt Earp

What else do you expect from "King Tool."

I'm gonna' be keeping my eye on his narcissism in the years to come. Let's hope it's just four years.

349 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:11:28am

re: #344 rightside

Rumor of buying her this.

Oh, that is pretty.

350 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:12:36am

Gotta' go.

351 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:12:42am

re: #344 rightside
Someones responce to the ring from that page

He has to spend all the extra campaign money on something. At least it gets some money back into the economy.

But Rhodium is mined in South Africa and its being made in Italy not really helping the American Economy.

352 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:13:21am

re: #351 Rancher

Someones responce to the ring from that page


But Rhodium is mined in South Africa and its being made in Italy not really helping the American Economy.

And if it did help the economy, he wouldn't be interested.

353 syncopation  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:13:24am

A moving remembrance for Rivky and Gabi Holtzberg, Chabad of Mumbai:
My Heroic Friends Rivky and Gabi Holtzberg

...I want the world to know who Rivky and Gabi Holtzberg were in life and to tell you what I witnessed of their accomplishments in their brief 27 and 29 years on earth. While I am devastated by their death, I am thankful that my life and so many others were touched by their purity, friendship and spirit.

354 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:01am

re: #346 Crux Australis

I am starting to learn that more and more. Being able to speak with other conservatives around the globe has been an awesome experience.

355 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:07am

re: #323 DistantThunder

Yeah, be a church that hates america and portrays white citizens as evil - in full-throated voice, from the pulpit and recorded for posterity - no problem.

It really is an outrage that BHO got away with saying that in 20 years, he never heard any of Rev Wrights racist, anti-Semetic or anti-American rants. It is childish to support that reasoning.

356 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:09am

re: #349 MandyManners

Oh, that is pretty.

I think he should spread the wealth and give one to every woman in the country. After all, it is not fair that he can afford that when some people have to settle for cubic zirconia. //

357 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:14:40am

Its about time for us to do something about these pirates now but we will have to wait til CBBHO is in office or it will be seen as just another of Bush's overreaching acts into the business of other nations.

358 gregg  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:15:28am

re: #345 3 wood

One of the issues related to the Auto industry situation, if I understand their union contracts correctly, is the laid off workers are supposed to be paid just about as much for not working (including benefits) as for working.

That is why the declaration of bankruptcy is so crucial to working out a feasible solution to this. Those contract provisions are simply not affordable. I'm not a lawyer, but the only way to do that during the life of the contract (unless the Unions are willing to waive those provisions, which I doubt) is to declare bankruptcy and get those contracts canceled.

The UAW keeps making noise about how new hires will be paid considerably less under the new contract. Sounds good, but when in the foreseeable future will they have any new hires? I suspect they will be cutting jobs for awhile and then there will be a hiring freeze.

If they actually start growing at some point in the future, don't the laid off workers get called back before they hire new workers? If that's the case, does anyone know if recalled workers would start at the "new hire" pay rate, or do come back with some seniority and a higher rate?

359 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:16:38am

re: #347 MandyManners

I don't see a lot wrong with that. It's HER money, too, after all.

Besides, doesn't she deserve a pretty bauble for stifling herself for months?

Their finances do not pass the smell test to me. Her salary doubling after he arranged a grant from the taxpayer, his money based on book sales, that might have been used to cover a large cash infusion from Soros for books that were wholesaled off. I think they are old fashioned Chicago crooks and if a good prosecutor followed the money they'd be in jail.

360 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:16:44am

re: #357 Rancher

Its about time for us to do something about these pirates now but we will have to wait til CBBHO is in office or it will be seen as just another of Bush's overreaching acts into the business of other nations.

Do you think Obama will rush to action? Somehow, I doubt it. Unless "action" is akin to "talking things through."

361 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:17:06am

re: #358 gregg

I beleive they come back with the same seniority/paygrade as they left under. But then they have to do actual work for only a small amount more cash.

362 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:18:00am

re: #359 lifeofthemind

Their finances do not pass the smell test to me. Her salary doubling after he arranged a grant from the taxpayer, his money based on book sales, that might have been used to cover a large cash infusion from Soros for books that were wholesaled off. I think they are old fashioned Chicago crooks and if a good prosecutor followed the money they'd be in jail.

Not to mention all of the questionable "campaign donations" they received from overseas. Something stinks.

363 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:18:12am

re: #360 Wyatt Earp
I shoulda been clearer we need to do something now before he's elected when nothing will be done. But we won't be able to cause it will be seen only as Bush's meddling sorry.
Ruslter

364 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:19:07am

re: #351 Rancher


Wasn't there a movie with Don Cheadle about the diamond mining in S Africa, blood diamond or something...

How dare he buy something that an African might have died for to earn his $1 per month!

This is outrageous!

365 Crusty  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:19:23am

re: #246 NYCHardhat

Good morning. Hope you all have a wonderful day making money.

Work harder...people on welfare are depending on you!

366 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:19:43am

re: #362 Wyatt Earp

Not to mention all of the questionable "campaign donations" they received from overseas. Something stinks.

They used prepaid credit cards. No doubt all kinds of illegal stuff, but will never be traced.

367 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:20:00am

re: #363 Rancher

I shoulda been clearer we need to do something now before he's elected when nothing will be done. But we won't be able to cause it will be seen only as Bush's meddling sorry.
Ruslter

Oh, my bad. it's early, and I missed your point. You are absolutely correct, though.

368 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:21:28am

re: #366 opnion

They used prepaid credit cards. No doubt all kinds of illegal stuff, but will never be traced.

Because the media will never ask any questions.

369 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:23:12am

Good morning Lizards......

370 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:23:14am

re: #364 rightside

Yeah Blood Diamond is the movie title its about African Conflict(or blood diamonds) mostly mined in the congo basin and sold to support the numerous warlords in their individual bids for power and war against each other. Blood diamonds are illegal in the US unfortuneatly its very difficult to figure out where a stone came from once its been cut. The most cost effective method of IDing said diamonds requires uncut stones so they can test the surface for sulfur and other trace elements to show the mined location. This process wont work once the gem is cut tho since all the surface contaminant are removed in the cutting process. Other methods of testing involing lasers etc are far more expensive and not often employed.

371 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:23:26am

Okay, it's official: I'm being a bum this morning. I simply am not going to drive in on ice covered roads and test my patience with insane drivers.

372 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:23:34am

re: #362 Wyatt Earp

Not to mention all of the questionable "campaign donations" they received from overseas. Something stinks.

The kicker is the Courts claiming that citizens don't have standing to question his eligibility. At least in a Scottish law system any citizen can bring an action. My hope is that some prosecutor in Texas makes up for the moonbat lefty who went after Cheney by empaneling a Grand Jury to dig into BHO's money trail.

373 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:24:15am

re: #367 Wyatt Earp

Actually its early but late for me and I truncated my own idea leaving out half the first sentence. Had said it in my head but never typed it out.
Rustler

374 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:24:39am

re: #371 vxbush

Okay, it's official: I'm being a bum this morning. I simply am not going to drive in on ice covered roads and test my patience with insane drivers.

Godd morning vxbushbum.... ;)

375 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:25:01am

re: #368 Wyatt Earp

Because the media will never ask any questions.

Obama will be judged by different Standards. Richard Cohen writing for WaPo sydication last week said that Obama will govern from neither the Right or Center but 'Above it all." He was serious.

376 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:25:15am

re: #372 lifeofthemind

The kicker is the Courts claiming that citizens don't have standing to question his eligibility. At least in a Scottish law system any citizen can bring an action. My hope is that some prosecutor in Texas makes up for the moonbat lefty who went after Cheney by empaneling a Grand Jury to dig into BHO's money trail.

How frustrated we all are, seeing a candidate buy their way into the presidency, and yet we have little recourse to do much about it. I really don't want to wait for the first scandal to break in his administration.

377 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:25:19am

re: #373 Rancher

Actually its early but late for me and I truncated my own idea leaving out half the first sentence. Had said it in my head but never typed it out.
Rustler

Ya done rustled yer own cattle er thoughts eh... ;)

378 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:25:59am

re: #377 doriangrey
zackly

379 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:26:49am

re: #378 Rancher

zackly

Tis a truly bad economy when a man is forced to rustle his own cattle.... ;p

380 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:26:52am

re: #369 doriangrey

Morning Dorian.

381 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:26:56am

re: #374 doriangrey

Godd morning vxbushbum.... ;)

Heh. I can see it now: a new line of VX models:

VXBush
VXBold (extra caffeine days)
VXBum (for today, as you said)
VXBore (for when no one wants to listen to me)
VXBent (for bad arthritic days)

382 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:27:20am

re: #369 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards......

*yawn* Mornin' dorian...do you have any of that high-test coffee of yours this a.m.?

383 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:27:35am

re: #380 Ford_Prefect

Morning Dorian.

Morning Ford... Do you know where your towel is?

384 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:28:05am

re: #376 vxbush

How frustrated we all are, seeing a candidate buy their way into the presidency, and yet we have little recourse to do much about it. I really don't want to wait for the first scandal to break in his administration.

Depends what you mean by scandal. American soldiers standing guard outside Hamas launching sites in Gaza being used to kill Jews in Israel will happen under his administration.

385 Crusty  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:28:30am

re: #366 opnion

They used prepaid credit cards. No doubt all kinds of illegal stuff, but will never be traced.

When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.

Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.

386 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:28:30am

re: #383 doriangrey

Morning Ford... Do you know where your towel is?

Always.

387 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:28:35am

Doesn't Al "Environment" Gore have this same problem

388 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:29:17am

re: #379 doriangrey

Nah the insurance payout is 2x what they worth in todays market :P

389 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:29:23am

re: #382 scottishbuzzsaw

*yawn* Mornin' dorian...do you have any of that high-test coffee of yours this a.m.?

Yes, why yes I do... However, past experience here has led my to require that you sign a disclaimer form agreeing that I am not responsible for damage to any computer hardware that might be damaged should you spill any of said coffee.... ;)

390 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:29:50am

re: #376 vxbush

How frustrated we all are, seeing a candidate buy their way into the presidency, and yet we have little recourse to do much about it. I really don't want to wait for the first scandal to break in his administration.

Wonder if the Palestinian phone bank staff will be at the Inauguration.
If they are there I hope that there are no explosions.

391 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:25am

re: #372 lifeofthemind

The kicker is the Courts claiming that citizens don't have standing to question his eligibility. At least in a Scottish law system any citizen can bring an action. My hope is that some prosecutor in Texas makes up for the moonbat lefty who went after Cheney by empaneling a Grand Jury to dig into BHO's money trail.

No one has standing to question The One! :)

392 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:25am

re: #389 doriangrey

Yes, why yes I do... However, past experience here has led my to require that you sign a disclaimer form agreeing that I am not responsible for damage to any computer hardware that might be damaged should you spill any of said coffee.... ;)

Okey dokey...just pour, my friend, pour...

393 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:45am

re: #384 lifeofthemind Kinda like they use UN ambulances as transportation to and from attacks and fly the Hezbollah flag above the UN flag at some UN stations.

394 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:46am

re: #384 lifeofthemind

Depends what you mean by scandal. American soldiers standing guard outside Hamas launching sites in Gaza being used to kill Jews in Israel will happen under his administration.

While I do expect something from Obama that will leave Israel to defend itself and may in fact support the Palestinian "cause," I mean a scandal that everyone would agree (or everyone except moonbats) will agree is scandalous and involve money. He's used to the way Chicago works. Washington works almost that way, but I still consider it not quite as bad. And that means that when he starts using Chicago tactics, someone will chirp up.

395 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:30:56am

re: #392 scottishbuzzsaw

Okey dokey...just pour, my friend, pour...

You got it sweetheart..... ;)

396 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:15am

Morning perv dorian

397 legalpad  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:27am

re: #385 Crusty

When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.

Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.

This is where we have been for a few years. The media needs to be changed. They've taken over the democratic process.

398 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:30am

re: #395 doriangrey

You got it sweetheart..... ;)

Oh, did I mention that that disclaimer also cover the enamel on your teeth? :O

399 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:51am

re: #395 doriangrey

You got it sweetheart..... ;)

Now, if you had something that also included a strong analgesic, I'd go for that. But in a tea variety.

400 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:53am

re: #385 Crusty

When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.

Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.


Yeah, look at Minnesota, Franken is poised to try to steal the electtion through litigation.
The Dems have never gotten over the Florida recount. Even the NY Times went down there & declared Bush the winner. It doesn't matter they still insist that it was stolen.

401 reine.de.tout  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:32:54am

re: #337 MandyManners

She got a new ring? What kind?

Michelle's Ring Thing

402 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:15am

Has anyone heard from vbspurs?

403 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:21am

re: #397 legalpad

This is where we have been for a few years. The media needs to be changed. They've taken over the democratic process.

So when are we creating the new country of Lizardia?

404 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:25am

re: #396 rightside

Morning perv dorian

Okay, what have I missed?

405 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:31am

re: #396 rightside

Morning perv dorian

Morning.... What? Their are scantly clad 19 year old girls in this thread? where.... where?

406 Irish Rose  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:33:50am

Good morning, lizards.
A cold and snowy day along the Lake Michigan shoreline.

I've been down for the last 6 days with illness, finally crawling back in to play catch up.

Working my way through the Jindal thread now... yeesh.

407 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:00am

GDI another time i fail at embedding a link UN Ambulance

408 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:06am

re: #401 reine.de.tout

Michelle's Ring Thing

Oh, brother. Selfishness run amok. Now he has to pay off his wife, too!

409 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:40am

re: #399 vxbush

Now, if you had something that also included a strong analgesic, I'd go for that. But in a tea variety.

Just my Earl Gray, but I never break that out before 5pm.....

410 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:34:58am

re: #404 scottishbuzzsaw


Yesterdays overnight thread, our suave playa, was hitting on a Lizardettes 19yo daughter LOL

411 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:13am

re: #409 doriangrey

Just my Earl Gray, but I never break that out before 5pm.....

And any caffeine I have must be before 3pm or else I stay awake all night. Especially now; this stupid thyroid thing is mucking up my sleep schedule but good.

412 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:14am

re: #385 Crusty

When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.

Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.

I will be very curious to see what happens in four years. It seems to me that at least some of the excitement surrounding Obama this time around will likely have worn off. Some people will become disenchanted by his actions, as we are seeing with some of his appointments. And I think that the huge turnout this time around from the black community will be considerably less next time. People were understandably excited about voting for a viable black candidate for the first time in their lives. That novelty will be gone in four years. I think it will be very interesting to see what happens.

413 legalpad  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:25am

re: #403 vxbush

So when are we creating the new country of Lizardia?

Good idea! I will begin plotting immediately -

414 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:28am

re: #394 vxbush

While I do expect something from Obama that will leave Israel to defend itself and may in fact support the Palestinian "cause," I mean a scandal that everyone would agree (or everyone except moonbats) will agree is scandalous and involve money. He's used to the way Chicago works. Washington works almost that way, but I still consider it not quite as bad. And that means that when he starts using Chicago tactics, someone will chirp up.


There will be some friction from civil service bureaucrats who agree ideologically but don't want to take orders from anybody, possibly a press moment from a big footed black crony from Chicago coming up against a gay administrator in some department. The press will smother most of it.

415 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:35:37am

re: #410 rightside

Yesterdays overnight thread, our suave playa, was hitting on a Lizardettes 19yo daughter LOL

Okay.....
/hiding 23-year-old in the back room

416 opnion  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:00am

re: #401 reine.de.tout

Michelle's Ring Thing

"It don't mean a thing if you ain't got that bling, dowap, dowap, dowap."

417 reine.de.tout  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:24am

re: #408 vxbush

Oh, brother. Selfishness run amok. Now he has to pay off his wife, too!

It's just bad taste, unseemly, to be buying this ring in celebration, I guess, of Obama's "elevation" to the presidency, at a time when so many Americans are facing lay-offs, loss of homes, and general hard times.

He and WAB just don't get it.

418 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:26am

re: #415 vxbush

Okay.....
/hiding 23-year-old in the back room

Hey, that's not nice.... Let the poor child come out to play..... ;)

419 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:40am

re: #410 rightside

Yesterdays overnight thread, our suave playa, was hitting on a Lizardettes 19yo daughter LOL

Oh dear...dorian, careful there or I'll have to pour this coffee in your...lap.

420 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:36:55am

re: #414 lifeofthemind

There will be some friction from civil service bureaucrats who agree ideologically but don't want to take orders from anybody, possibly a press moment from a big footed black crony from Chicago coming up against a gay administrator in some department. The press will smother most of it.

Perhaps. My crystal ball doesn't work beyond lunchtime, so I make no predictions. But something will happen, methinks.

421 DaddyG  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:06am

re: #23 gmsc

Activists Seek Revocation of Tax Exempt Status of Churches That Supported Prop 8


Trivia: When Joseph Smith formed the Mormon Church, the US government repeatedly tried to prosecute them for polygamy, while Joseph Smith kept claiming freedom of religion.

Finally, the US government threatened to revoke the Mormon Church's tax-exempt status. Shortly after that, Joseph Smith reported having a vision that God told him polygamy was wrong.

It's a miracle!

You have the general idea, but...

Joseph Smith was dead decades before the issue of polygamy became a federal or legal issue. It was Brigham Young who fought the US government and John Taylor (Brigham's successor) who revoked the practice of it. Some historical detail:

The Saints were opposed in Illinois for several factors including their abolitionist stance and their tendency to vote in blocks fueled by large amounts if immigrants from Europe. They gained a great deal of power in Western Illinois in a short period of time and it made some their neighbors uneasy. Joseph Smith was killed by a mob in retaliation for destroying the printing press of polygamy opponents. After Joseph Smith was murdered by the mob the state of Illinois disarmed the Saints and Missouri put out an extermination order.

Under the leadership of Brigham Young the saints left their property and had a mass exodus to the Utah territory. There Brigham fought the US government over the right to practice their religion as they saw fit including self determination as a territory and polygamy (or more properly polygyny - one husband with multiple wives).

Several decades later and after Brigham's death John Taylor was appointed as president of the LDS Church. The Saints desired statehood and after losing several supreme court cases on the issue of polygamy the federal government threatened to seize all of the property that the church held, imprison all of the men who practiced polygamy and imprison all church leaders regardless of their personal practice (much more severe than revoking tax exempt status). At that point John Taylor received a revelation that it was preferable the Saints be free to practice their faith minus plural marriage in order to obey the law of the land, than it would be to be completely disenfranchised to the point of their destruction.

The main body of the Saints accepted the revelation and by 1900 the practice was ended and those who would not stop were excommunicated. Small splinter groups that could not give up polygamy or argued against John Taylor's authority to make the decision to stop broke off and formed the origins of groups like the Fundamental LDS who practice polygyny today in defiance of the law.

An interesting historical note - the LDS doctrine that led to polygyny was not revoked by John Taylor - but the practice of that portion of the doctrine was suspended indefinitely.

As Brigham said, "we are a practical people".

422 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:10am

re: #415 vxbush

Okay.....
/hiding 23-year-old in the back room

perks up

423 razorbacker  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:27am

Sincere apology if already posted.

Muslim graveyard refuses to bury terrorists in Mumbai

A Muslim graveyard in the heart of Mumbai has broken with Islamic tradition and refused to bury the bodies of nine terrorists who were killed during the attack on India's financial capital.

The influential Muslim Jama Masjid Trust, which runs the 7.5-acre Badakabrastan graveyard, said it would not bury the gunmen because they were not true followers of Islam.

Hanif Nalkhande, a spokesman for the trust, said: "People who committed this heinous crime cannot be called Muslim. Islam does not permit this sort of barbaric crime."...

Unclaimed bodies thought to be Muslim are traditionally given to the nearest Islamic graveyard for burial after three days but that now looks impossible in Mumbai.

There are seven other Muslim graveyards in Mumbai, but the Jama Masjid's influence means none of the others are likely to accept the bodies....

Jain Sirmukadam, a senior police inspector, said: "The gunmen must be buried because we are bound to see that their last rites are performed according to the religion they follow. We have heard the trust's decision. We are considering what to do now."

I see this as a positive sign.

Were I not so fond of hogs, I'd recommend that they be fed to hogs and the resultant dung burned, but I like hogs. So I don't recommend that.

424 Irish Rose  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:39am

re: #408 vxbush

Oh, brother. Selfishness run amok. Now he has to pay off his wife, too!

It's her compensation for being forced to keep her anti-American, elitist yap shut on the campaign trail.

425 rightside  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:43am

re: #415 vxbush


It wasn't directly, but we were giving him some needling anyway!

426 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:37:45am

re: #406 Irish Rose

Morning Rose. I must have missed that one. I will have to go check it out.

427 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:38:17am

re: #417 reine.de.tout

It's just bad taste, unseemly, to be buying this ring in celebration, I guess, of Obama's "elevation" to the presidency, at a time when so many Americans are facing lay-offs, loss of homes, and general hard times.

He and WAB just don't get it.

No. They really have no clue, and this action simply speaks to them never being "regular" folks. I wish the press would have a field day with this and make them return the ring. Or better yet, return the ring and donate the money to a real charity instead of Wright's church.

428 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:38:35am

re: #424 Irish Rose

It's her compensation for being forced to keep her anti-American, elitist yap shut on the campaign trail.

My first thought, too.

Hope you're feeling better soon, Rose...

429 doriangrey  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:38:43am

re: #419 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh dear...dorian, careful there or I'll have to pour this coffee in your...lap.

Hey now... I am after all a single, never married, kind of guy....

430 Harry Tuttle  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:39:44am

re: #417 reine.de.tout

It's just bad taste, unseemly, to be buying this ring in celebration, I guess, of Obama's "elevation" to the presidency, at a time when so many Americans are facing lay-offs, loss of homes, and general hard times.

He and WAB just don't get it.

It seems very royal of him to me.

431 Rancher  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:40:16am

re: #415 vxbush

Just keep her away from Dorian his hogging all the Lizardettes daughters.

432 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:40:32am

re: #424 Irish Rose

It's her compensation for being forced to keep her anti-American, elitist yap shut on the campaign trail.

DING DING! Give that gal a cup of coffee for being right.

433 vxbush  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:40:57am

re: #422 lifeofthemind

perks up

Oh, brother; how am I going to explain to her that there are lizards interested.....

434 Karridine  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:41:42am

re: #385 Crusty

When Bush wins two presidential terms fair & square, it's called stealing the elections. When 0bama wins via illegal campaign contributions and MSM propaganda, it's called a great moment in American history.

Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seatbelts, we'll be landing on the planet Bizarro in a few weeks.

Perhaps... there's still a rational way to divert this disaster, Crusty...

435 jcbunga  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:42:12am

"Muslim prayer rooms should be opened in every Roman Catholic school, Church leaders have said."

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

I wish I was making this up.

436 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 2, 2008 5:42:29am