Mope and change...

From fresh meat to fresh thread!

No, but I bet that bird could have used a sweater.

Ah that fresh thread smell.

/and no empty shells lying around either.

re: #3 ploome hineni

well

I just bought a sweater fistful of Silver Maple Leaf coins on ebay

I won the bidding

:D

/did I need that sweater those coins?

.............and that's how I spent my Thanksgiving weekend

re: #5 BlueCanuck

9mm? .40cal? .45ACP?

Or were you talking about eggshells?

What does D.H. Lawrence know about frozen birds feeling sorry? He only sees the stiff little birdie drop from the branch. He can't read its thoughts. It might at least be thinking, "Oh, damn."

re: #9 ploome hineni

Averaged out to about $15 when all was said and done- not including shipping.

re: #12 ploome hineni

I'm in it for the bullion, but some of them just came out and feature the 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics logo, which might boost their value numismatically....

re: #7 Fenway_Nation

Eggshells. No trolls popped up yet, so all firearms were holstered.

Then there is the soldier version of events that D H might not have known about -

The Yellow Bird Jodie

A yellow bird
with a little beak
was sittin' on
my toilet seat
I pushed him in
I flushed him down
I watched his ass
go round and round.

A little bird
with a yellow bill
was sittin' on
my window sill.
I lured him in
with a piece of bread
then I smashed
his fuckin head

As a compassionate conservative I feel sorry for the dead bird....

At zomblog:

R.I.P. Dan Kliman

We’ve just learned that Dan Kliman, a dedicated pro-Israel activist in San Francisco, and occasional zombietime contributor, was found dead yesterday at the bottom of an elevator shaft:...

Read the links in the article. Especially this one:

Daniel J. Kliman was found dead yesterday at the bottom of an elevator shaft in the building where he was taking Arabic classes. He is believed to have fallen down the elevator shaft on Tuesday evening 11/25/08.
There were no classes last week. There were very few people in the building at the time. The defective elevator was "secure".
It is still unclear how this happened.

Dan was supposed to fly to Israel last Thursday.

Dan was a founding member of San Francisco Voice for Israel, who tirelessly worked to promote a fair and balanced image for Israel in the Bay Area, regularly facing the threats and insults of anti-Semites and anti-Israel activists for several years.

Just between me and you, his death is very suspicious. Yet the police have declared it an accident are are apparently not investigating further.

re: #18 zombie

Why was he there? Who lured him there?

If the cops don't investigate this further, they are just cowards afraid of where it may lead.

re: #17 ploome hineni

Alot of those sites typically charge a premium on bullion purchases- unless you're buying in large quantities. As interested as I am in precious metals, I don't really have enough money to buy hundreds of ounces of silver (or a minimum of 10 ounces of gold) up front.

re: #18 zombie

At zomblog:

R.I.P. Dan Kliman

Just between me and you, his death is very suspicious. Yet the police have declared it an accident are are apparently not investigating further.

Yeah, my spidy sense went off when I read that article. Most out of service elevators won't have the doors open. If they are some one is working on it, or there are heaps of barriers in front of it. In fact in all my experience in office buildings I have only seen one open elevator shaft. Just one, and that was while a technician was working in the bottom pit. I wonder what the cause of death was?

Bought a new monitor tonight. Should be here by Friday.

re: #18 zombie

At zomblog:

R.I.P. Dan Kliman

Just between me and you, his death is very suspicious.

Agreed- except for the 'Just between me and you' part. I think anyone who heard about those iffy circumstances would be suspicious....

Rumour from a credible source says that Kliman was having an affair with an Arabic teacher at the school. A teacher of the male persuasion. Kliman was a lefty gay vegetarian bicyclist activist who campaigned against Prop 8, but had the sanity, moral clarity and courage to see the anti-Semitism that's infected the so-called progressive movement, and take it on.

re: #18 zombie

Very sad & very suspicious. There were no classes there last week. I hope someone pushes for the cops to dig deeper.

Haha. Isn't this the quote that Viggo Mortensen uses in GI Jane?

re: #19 stevieray

Why was he there? Who lured him there?

That is the key question.

A detail really bothers me. It says in the first article I linked to,

Last Tuesday, a surveillance camera recorded Kliman waiting for the elevator in the lobby. It wasn’t clear, however, how he ended up in the elevator shaft or whether he fell from that floor or higher, Bernheim said.

...but if that's the case -- if the surveillance video shows him waiting for the elevator, wouldn't it show what happened next? Did it show him prying open the door and all by himself stepping unknowingly into an empty shaft? Or did it show him being pushed by someone else into the shaft? Or what? I mean, c'mon, that's the key clue.

re: #18 zombie

At zomblog:

R.I.P. Dan Kliman

Just between me and you, his death is very suspicious. Yet the police have declared it an accident are are apparently not investigating further.

I'm nervous enough about a good friend of mine who is visiting family in Israel right now. This just makes me more nervous.

re: #28 zombie

...but if that's the case -- if the surveillance video shows him waiting for the elevator, wouldn't it show what happened next? Did it show him prying open the door and all by himself stepping unknowingly into an empty shaft? Or did it show him being pushed by someone else into the shaft? Or what? I mean, c'mon, that's the key clue.

It could simply be the case that the police have the tape in question, and aren't saying anything about what they see on the tape.

re: #18 zombie

That just sucks. I am sorry for his friends and family, and for the people of the Bay Area who need to hear more authentically opposing views.

An elevator shaft? In a building where he took Arabic classes? At a time when no classes were held?

What would have motivated him to be there in the first place?

re: #25 neocon hippie

Rumour from a credible source says that Kliman was having an affair with an Arabic teacher at the school. A teacher of the male persuasion.

I also heard that rumor. It raised even more possibilities in my mind. But I decided not to mention it in the article, because I had no confirmation.

Kliman was a lefty gay vegetarian bicyclist activist who campaigned against Prop 8, but had the sanity, moral clarity and courage to see the anti-Semitism that's infected the so-called progressive movement, and take it on.

Yes, aside from being a pro-Israel activist, he was also a gay activist and an environmentalist. Which, in a sane world, should all make perfect sense in one individual.

Every single person with whom I have communicated about this thinks his death was not an accident.

re: #31 karmic_inquisitor

That just sucks. I am sorry for his friends and family, and for the people of the Bay Area who need to hear more authentically opposing views.

An elevator shaft? In a building where he took Arabic classes? At a time when no classes were held?

What would have motivated him to be there in the first place?

See my #25 above.

re: #15 karmic_inquisitor

Then there is the soldier version of events that D H might not have known about -

The Yellow Bird Jodie

A yellow bird
with a little beak
was sittin' on
my toilet seat
I pushed him in
I flushed him down
I watched his ass
go round and round.

A little bird
with a yellow bill
was sittin' on
my window sill.
I lured him in
with a piece of bread
then I smashed
his fuckin head

Went many a mile after mile singing that song among others.

re: #16 drmark

As a compassionate conservative I feel sorry for the dead bird....

wonder if it was edible?

World's Oldest Weed Dealer, Primo Stash Unearthed in China

Those medieval stoners sure got around. A light-haired Caucasian man with a huge stash of green buds over in China.

Researchers say they have located the world's oldest stash of marijuana, in a tomb in a remote part of China.

The cache of cannabis is about 2,700 years old and was clearly ``cultivated for psychoactive purposes," rather than as fibre for clothing or as food, says a research paper in the Journal of Experimental Botany.

The 789 grams of dried cannabis was buried alongside a light-haired, blue-eyed Caucasian man, likely a shaman of the Gushi culture, near Turpan in northwestern China.

The extremely dry conditions and alkaline soil acted as preservatives, allowing a team of scientists to carefully analyze the stash, which still looked green though it had lost its distinctive odour.

"To our knowledge, these investigations provide the oldest documentation of cannabis as a pharmacologically active agent," says the newly published paper, whose lead author was American neurologist Dr. Ethan B. Russo.

Remnants of cannabis have been found in ancient Egypt and other sites, and the substance has been referred to by authors such as the Greek historian Herodotus. But the tomb stash is the oldest so far that could be thoroughly tested for its properties.

The 18 researchers, most of them based in China, subjected the cannabis to a battery of tests, including carbon dating and genetic analysis [uh, hello, there's one sure way to test it! -- ed.]. Scientists also tried to germinate 100 of the seeds found in the cache, without success.

The marijuana was found to have a relatively high content of THC, the main active ingredient in cannabis, but the sample was too old to determine a precise percentage.

Researchers also could not determine whether the cannabis was smoked or ingested, as there were no pipes or other clues in the tomb of the shaman, who was about 45 years old.

The large cache was contained in a leather basket and in a wooden bowl, and was likely meant to be used by the shaman in the afterlife.

"This materially is unequivocally cannabis, and no material has previously had this degree of analysis possible," Russo said in an interview from Missoula, Mont.

re: #30 gmsc

It could simply be the case that the police have the tape in question, and aren't saying anything about what they see on the tape.

But if everyone is suspicious that he was murdered, and the cops have solid evidence that it was an accident, then why don't they just announce that they have video proof it was an accident? Why leave the entire pro-Israel and other activist communities believing something fishy happened?

Very odd behavior on the police's part.

However, this may explain it: I also heard a rumor that federal investigators from OSHA are now investigating the scene, and may have told the SF cops to clam up. OSHA needs to make absolutely sure that broken elevator sliding doors aren't just hanging open; it would be a major public safety hazard.

More info is sure to come out.

re: #34 Outrider

Went many a mile after mile singing that song among others.

Two old ladies were layin in bed
One rolled over to the other and said
I wanna be an airborne ranger
I wanna lead a life of danger

Ha - brings back old memories..........

FYI

Georgia
97% of precincts reporting

Chambliss (R)
1,220,854
57.4%

Martin (D)
905,637
42.6%

Last Updated Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:32:07 AM

re: #33 neocon hippie

See my #25 above.

Thanks. Interesting. Noticed the "No" sticker in the photo of him at Zomblog and figured (since it was a pride event) that he was gay. Not sure if it would make any difference especially in SF - not like the old days were being outed would figure as a motive in a crime.

And I agree with Zombie - in a sane world the left would be out advocating a democratic and free Middle East rather than becoming neo-reactionaries (I refuse to call them "realists").

re: #39 LeePro

FYI

Georgia
97% of precincts reporting

Chambliss (R)
1,220,854
57.4%

Martin (D)
905,637
42.6%

Last Updated Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:32:07 AM

Beatdown.

Awesome!

re: #39 LeePro

I'm very stoked about that.

re: #36 gmsc

The Marco Polo of Pot.

Narco Polo?

re: #39 LeePro

FYI

Georgia
97% of precincts reporting

Chambliss (R)
1,220,854
57.4%

Martin (D)
905,637
42.6%

Last Updated Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:32:07 AM

Right now a truck is on its way from Minnesota with "some misplaced ballots".

Also, Dan more than once emailed me about things he saw on LGF, which means he was an LGF reader -- although I don't think he ever caught an open registration, so never got a user name. But he was a lurker here for sure, and thus a part of our community.

re: #41 TheMatrix31

Beatdown.

Awesome!

God Bless Georgia.........used to live there....beautiful state.

re: #44 karmic_inquisitor

Right now a truck is on its way from Minnesota with "some misplaced ballots".

Somebody ambush it, quick!

re: #43 karmic_inquisitor

The Marco Polo of Pot.

Narco Polo?

Apparently he died during the Bong Dynasty.

What I don't get is, why was it so close the first time and so different the second time?

re: #49 TheMatrix31

What I don't get is, why was it so close the first time and so different the second time?

I smell an ACORN........

re: #49 TheMatrix31

What I don't get is, why was it so close the first time and so different the second time?

Newly discovered ballots?

/Oh wait, those never mysteriously appear for Republicans . . .

re: #48 gmsc

Apparently he died during the Bong Dynasty.

LOL I predict in about a year we'll be hearing about Gushi Ganja. All in the name of research.

re: #49 TheMatrix31

Rudy, Palin and a few others were out there helping him. Maybe folks got scared of the idea of a filibuster proof congress.

re: #34 Outrider

Went many a mile after mile singing that song among others.

Ahhh yes - transportation via the leather express.

I miss those cadences. Took some scouts on a 18 mile hike on Catalina a few years ago, which we did in one push. Got them to sing cadences to keep them moving at a pace. Mild, age appropriate ones. Like "My girl's a New York girl." Worked great - they all made the hike and passed other troops on the way. Kids had fun and were proud of what they did.

A month later I had a mom confront me for "militarizing" her kid.

re: #49 TheMatrix31

What I don't get is, why was it so close the first time and so different the second time?

IIRC there were 3+ candidates and the law in GA says you have to have 50% + 1

re: #49 TheMatrix31

What I don't get is, why was it so close the first time and so different the second time?

Losers staying home second time?

re: #53 Pvt Bin Jammin

Rudy, Palin and a few others were out there helping him. Maybe folks got scared of the idea of a filibuster proof congress.

I don't think I buy that. That implies sentient behavior from the same bunch that gave the presidency to Obama. Easier to believe that ACORN or similar organizations cheated on the first go thru and then their energy dissipated after getting the win for the O.....
I know that sounds convoluted but what the hell, I'm getting tired.....
:)

re: #54 karmic_inquisitor

Ahhh yes - transportation via the leather express.

Called ours black cadillacs or leather APC's

/APC = apres colis or something, quebecois curse phrase

re: #57 LGoPs

Or maybe ACORN was out of funds and couldn't promise possible voters "goodies".

re: #55 karmic_inquisitor

IIRC there were 3+ candidates and the law in GA says you have to have 50% + 1

Well if that's the case then it makes sense.

The Libertarian caused the runoff.

As of Nov 5, the results were:

Republican Chambliss: 49.9%
Democrat Martin: 46.7%
Libertarian Buckley: 3.4%

re: #41 TheMatrix31

Beatdown.

Awesome!

But, how could Martin lose? He had Ludacris campaigning for him!

/Oh, wait . . .

re: #57 LGoPs

Lee Pro's probably right. Losers staying home the second time. :)

Guten Abend

re: #59 BlueCanuck

Or maybe ACORN was out of funds and couldn't promise possible voters "goodies".

One would hope they're in trouble for not taking withholding from the prepaid debit cards.

America, Watch and Learn

I don't get it. The American auto industry is failing. For whatever reasons, they can no longer make a profit. Note that people still want cars ... It's just that not as many want American cars as foreign cars, since foreign cars are known for being better. However, some do actually want American cars -- but the American car companies happen to be poorly run. Plus, they are hampered by all kinds of regulations and government-supported union rules that competing, foreign companies are not hampered by.

I get all this. What I don't get is why or how pouring billions of taxpayer dollars into these companies is suddenly going to make them profitable. I understand that those who now control Washington don't really care about profit. In fact, they got elected telling people that profit and capitalism are largely bad. What these politicians do care about are the labor unions. How labor unions are supposed to survive without profit generated by capitalism is anybody's guess. The politicians also care about forcing automakers to manufacture environmentally friendly cars. If they bail out the auto companies, it's easier to force them to do this. Yet, if environmentally friendly cars don't sell when private capitalists own GM and Ford, then why will they suddenly start to sell when the government takes over GM and Ford? No answer is given because the question is never asked. Why is the question never asked?

The premise beneath all this is simple: Government officials think they are smarter and more capable than capitalists. They think they're much more moral too. If this were true, America should have abandoned capitalism (or what's left of it) a long time ago. Instead, America has held on to capitalism more tenaciously than most. In the process, America got a lot more done.

I may end up wrong, but I have a funny feeling that the American automakers are going to get their billions (or is it trillions?) in taxpayer dollars. For all practical purposes, the U.S. government will own them. This will be an example of all out socialism right here in the USA. Socialized cars. Government officials will get their chance to show how much more competent, and how much more virtuous, they supposedly are. America, watch and learn.

I'm watching "How The Grinch Stole Christmas" narrated by Boris Karloff on my TiVo.....

My favorite Christmas special of all time!

re: #64 LGoPs

Gute nacht!
Sleep well.

re: #65 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hah!

Kalanichta {LeePro}. Weet dreams.

re: #16 drmark

As a compassionate conservative I feel sorry for the dead bird....

The last two times my wife and I have taken vacations without the kids along... birds have committed suicide in our hotel swimming pools, in our presence. In San Antonio and on Kauai. It's damn creepy.

re: #69 LeePro

How ya doin? I'm watching Jay Leno....not long for the world.

re: #70 BlueCanuck

Kalanichta {LeePro}. Weet dreams.

Got me on that one, {Blue}! What is that... Russian?
But I'm not gone to bed yet. LGoPs said good night.

re: #67 TheMatrix31

I'm watching "How The Grinch Stole Christmas" narrated by Boris Karloff on my TiVo.....

My favorite Christmas special of all time!

I love that special!

The new Christmas specials don't seem to have the classic touch, such as CSI: North Pole.

OK, I apologize for that. For those of you who aren't catching it on TV, here's the original animated "How The Grinch Stole Christmas":

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

re: #39 LeePro

FYI

Georgia
97% of precincts reporting

Chambliss (R)
1,220,854
57.4%

Martin (D)
905,637
42.6%

Last Updated Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:32:07 AM

And again, we here in Georgia rise to the occasion. ;)>

re: #66 gmsc

Isn't he assuming that Congress wants the car makers, and indeed the economy as a whole, to succeed?

Personally, I'm of the opinion that our Democratic Congress wants to dig an economic hole so deep that it leads to the collapse of the USA as we know it. Then they can usher in the New Socialist Order -- the one everyone thought was dead and buried in 1989.

re: #73 LeePro

Greek, might have misspelled it though. ;)

re: #67 TheMatrix31

I'm watching "How The Grinch Stole Christmas" narrated by Boris Karloff on my TiVo.....

My favorite Christmas special of all time!

I heard that the fabulous song, You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch, was sung by the guy who was the voice for Tony the Tiger.

re: #72 Pvt Bin Jammin

How ya doin? I'm watching Jay Leno....not long for the world.

Pretty well. How are you and your hubby? (Still praying!)

Hope you meant 'not long for the night!' Don't go dyin' on us!
;D

re: #75 Outrider

For all of you Georgians:
ttp

I'm going to hit the sack for an early day tomorrow.

Good night, all!

re: #79 LeePro

We're hanging in there, thanks. He's had two physical therapy appointments to try the traction first. We shall see.

Hope you are doing well.

re: #66 gmsc
Pelosi says banruptcy is not an option.
Someone has got to tell them that change is not the same as progress. Some progress is indeed very painful.

re: #80 Pvt Bin Jammin

Trying that link again:

re: #67 TheMatrix31

I'm watching "How The Grinch Stole Christmas" narrated by Boris Karloff on my TiVo.....

My favorite Christmas special of all time!

Me, I'm a Scrooge collector. I have B&W versions, MS Scrooge, American Christmas Carol, animated ones, I just collect em. My favorites.

re: #77 BlueCanuck

Greek, might have misspelled it though. ;)

Ooooooooooooo.     ^_*swoon*

Such a cool dood. ;D

re: #84 Pvt Bin Jammin

Trying that link again:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

he always did so well signing that one.

re: #75 Outrider

And again, we here in Georgia rise to the occasion. ;)>

Thanks, Georgia!

re: #81 gmsc

I'm going to hit the sack for an early day tomorrow.

Good night, all!

G'night, and thanks for the Grinch links!

re: #87 Outrider

he always did so well signing that one.

Indeed he did.

My favorite of his:

re: #78 Silvergirl

I heard that the fabulous song, You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch, was sung by the guy who was the voice for Tony the Tiger.

The other day I was rolling around with a parody...

"You're a Mean One.....O-ba-ma!"

re: #89 Silvergirl

Good one.

re: #85 Outrider

Me, I'm a Scrooge collector. I have B&W versions, MS Scrooge, American Christmas Carol, animated ones, I just collect em. My favorites.

I have a particular fondness for The Muppet Christmas Carol with Michael Caine as Scrooge. I love Rizzo the Rat in this.

After the last few nights?

re: #93 Silvergirl

I have a particular fondness for The Muppet Christmas Carol with Michael Caine as Scrooge. I love Rizzo the Rat in this.

well shoot. I like anything the muppets did. That man had a gift.

re: #94 Outrider

After the last few nights?

Beautiful. Haven't hear that in awhile.

re: #96 Pvt Bin Jammin

PIMF heard

re: #97 Pvt Bin Jammin

PIMF heard

he will never be replaced. Same with Sam Moore who had to send a Cease and Desist letter to Obama to quit using his music

re: #98 Outrider

he will never be replaced. Same with Sam Moore who had to send a Cease and Desist letter to Obama to quit using his music

Indeed. Being an original baby boomer I feel blessed to have seen/heard so many great musicians.

Glad to hear Sam Moore is going after the Obama campaign. Didn't hear a peep about it in the news, only heard about the republicans using somebody's song.

re: #91 TheMatrix31

The other day I was rolling around with a parody...

"You're a Mean One.....O-ba-ma!"

Did you finish it, or is it still rolling around?

I'm going to bed now, Blue...

A goodnight gift to y'all [compliments of lizard, Jay777, in the linkies]

Good night {LeePro}. Now may you have weet dreams. ;)

re: #101 LeePro

Night, LeePro. I'm just about out of here too. Getting on my jammies.

re: #100 Silvergirl

Did you finish it, or is it still rolling around?

Still rolling around. I came up with some good lines in the shower but forgot them.....**sigh**

re: #99 Pvt Bin Jammin

Indeed. Being an original baby boomer I feel blessed to have seen/heard so many great musicians.

Glad to hear Sam Moore is going after the Obama campaign. Didn't hear a peep about it in the news, only heard about the republicans using somebody's song.

It was the song "Hold On, I'm Coming" by Sam & Dave.

Disgusting but predictable.

The anti-Semites are out again at the S.F. Chronicle, saying (in code) "the loud-mouthed Jew asked for it" in the comments section to this article about Dan's death:

The more I learn about this man, the more I'm convinced that his politics resulted in his demise. "Whenever he was in the room, he was such a huge presence." He sounds like he intimidated people who disagreed with him, and he violently screamed in their faces due to his passion over the issue of Israel's existence and policies. People who allow their passion to become out of control are only asking for it. In my opinion. Remember "bigots" goes both ways. Look it up.

Unbelievable.

Also, the Nazis over at Vanguard News Network -- the ideological twins of the anti-Semitic Left in San Francisco, whether either side wants to admit it or not -- have a thread blaming the "jew fag" for his own death. No linkee (links to Nazi sites forbidden here, and rightly so), but you can use your imagination.

Anybody who pissed off the communists and the Nazis is alright in my book.

re: #105 Outrider
Thanks for the info. Enjoying the song, too. The dem convention was a musical extravaganza. I wish more musicians would have bitched.

re: #106 zombie

Disgusting but predictable.

The anti-Semites are out again at the S.F. Chronicle, saying (in code) "the loud-mouthed Jew asked for it" in the comments section to this article about Dan's death:

Unbelievable.

strange how the loonies pop out at certain times

re: #108 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thanks for the info. Enjoying the song, too. The dem convention was a musical extravaganza. I wish more musicians would have bitched.

guess it depends who is playing it..........

re: #106 zombie

People who allow their passion to become out of control are only asking for it. In my opinion. Remember "bigots" goes both ways. Look it up.

Wow....almost staggering if I wasn't half-expecting it from their ilk.

Wonder if they'd be so permissive of his passion becoming out of control of he was an ISM member railing against the Zionists....

re: #106 zombie

Sick bastards.

Checking out now, will check your blog tomorrow. Keep LGF posted too.

time to bag it for the night. Later lizards

re: #106 zombie

Unfortunately I can believe this. I wonder how many of them are looking in the mirror in a literal word sense. Seems everything they are screaming about the right doing, is what they are actually doing to every one else.

Night PBJ, Outrider. Weet dreams to you both.

re: #115 BlueCanuck

Good night Blue, Outrider too.
Take care, lizards.

Ah, the pre-fruitcup doldrums. Hmmmm, what can we do while we are here. So peaceful, quiet, serene. Time to let the riff raff out and stir things up. :D

re: #114 BlueCanuck

Unfortunately I can believe this. I wonder how many of them are looking in the mirror in a literal word sense. Seems everything they are screaming about the right doing, is what they are actually doing to every one else.

If you look at the full comment thread at the SF Chronicle, about half the comments are being deleted almost immediately, and from the references to the deletions in other comments, it seems that most of them are anti-Israel rants and/or are expressing satisfaction at Dan's demise.

Under the very thin veneer of "tolerance" and "acceptance," this city is sick, sick, sick.

Ah, here's another gem of a comment at the SF Chronicle:

This is a tragedy that shouldn't have happened. That said, his death may save lives, since Israel murders Palestinians as a matter of policy.

...and still another:

Very serious Karma, indeed.

I don't even want to think about what the deleted comments must be like.

And the hits just keep on comin' from the SF Chronicle commenters:

This was clearly an accident, he wasn't important enough to kill.

...and...

Was this dude drinking? What was his blood alcohol levels. How much did his brain weigh at the autopsy?

And these are just the comments that got approved and not deleted!

re: #119 zombie

Wow, at least two or three deletions, blocks, and bans per page. That does make you wonder what's been posted doesn't it?

re: #120 zombie

One thing I have noticed is people reading and posting about how some elevators do open up and the elevator hasn't leveled. Good points for an elevator that's in service. But the elevator shaft he was found in was not in service. Too coincidental for my liking. Besides if you have the know how, it's a great place to store a body for a couple of days.

Wow, here's a good on from user:spitonreagan.

Exactly! Empathy for the underdog--Palestine isn't a bad thing. you got it right. The problem is, in our right wing, profit driven, info-tainment media that has been cowed into submission by corporations and powerful lobby groups like AIPAC, israel is made out to look like the pooor victim in mainstream media, when, in truth, israel is an apartheid oppressor. I root for the underdog in this case. LONG LIVE PALESTINE! NO MORE RACIST OPPRESSION FROM THE TERROR STATE OF ISRAEL! goodnight kids.

Wonder what brand of Kool-aid he has been drinking?

Hmmm, looking like the BlueCanuck show now.

Calls for a little soft shoe I think. :)

re: #123 BlueCanuck

Jim Jones had his congregation in San Francisco....

Not sure he would've felt it neccecary to flee to Guyana in today's San Fran-Freakshow.

The Fruitcup urge is back for some reason....

Ruh-roh! This can't be good........the Fruitcupitron 3000 is still ________ months away from completion!

Good morning, afternoon, evening, EVERYONE! Fruitcup is on the buffet----------->

re: #128 Fenway_Nation

Do you think they will notice?

re: #130 BlueCanuck

Ony if LoL won the Powerball

I wonder where littleoldlady is this morning? Not like her to be away with out proper warnings.

re: #132 BlueCanuck

Come to think of it, this thread is eerily deserted....

re: #133 Fenway_Nation

You don't think we missed some news do you? Any zombies in your neighbourhood?

/would check mine, but I wouldn't be able to tell the diff between them and the usual suspects here.

re: #132 BlueCanuck

I wonder where littleoldlady is this morning? Not like her to be away with out proper warnings.

This is the first time I've been around at night and not seen her online...

re: #134 BlueCanuck

Well...there was one upthread a little earlier.

/up in the boonies- word of zombie-induced holocaust would travel pretty slow

re: #135 TheMatrix31

There's been a few times. But mostly she has given fair warning that she wouldn't be able to make it. Give me a second and let me check something out.

re: #123 BlueCanuck
Genesis 12

2 And I will make you a great nation,
And I will bless you,
And make your name great;
And so you shall be a blessing;
3 And I will bless those who bless you,
And the one who curses you I will curse
And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.

That user should watch his/her words.

Hmmm, nothing since yesterday morning. Strange. I hope she's dancing in her stocking feet because she won the Powerball.

/*fingers crossed*

re: #129 BlueCanuck

Good morning, afternoon, evening, EVERYONE! Fruitcup is on the buffet----------->

Doesn't taste them same Blue, but thanks for the effort. First time I have seen lol miss since I have been registered.

re: #140 Erik The Red

Yeah, I know. Here's has that special oomph in it.

/no matter how much red tries, he can't disguise that.

re: #138 Crux Australis

Isaiah 82: 1-3

For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.

And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.

Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.

Err...that was supposed to be a 62.......don't think the Book of Isaiah goes up to 82

re: #143 Fenway_Nation

Either that, or you found a lost chapter.

re: #144 BlueCanuck

As an Easter/Christmas Catholic, they're all lost for....like 6 months at a time.

Looks like it's shaping up to be an interesting day marketwise. Which means things are going to royally suck up here in Canada. Well your market was up, ours was down. Today the forecast is for down markets in the States, which means ours will be even further down. Someone should slap Dion and Taliban Jack with a rotten flounder.

re: #145 Fenway_Nation

Only time I darken a churches doors these days are for weddings and funerals. Which means it should be about another 20 years before I see one again. :)

re: #146 BlueCanuck

Someone should slap Dion and Taliban Jack with a rotten flounder.

I thought that was going to be an exhibition game in the 2010 Vancouver Olympics.

re: #148 Fenway_Nation

It was. Can't wait that long. I wonder if Mandy would mind me borrowing her clue-by-four for a couple days?

re: #142 Fenway_Nation

It is Isaiah 62, Also Psalm 83 for comparison.

re: #149 BlueCanuck

Only if there's a regulation rotten trout secured to it- otherwise you risk suspension from the IRTSF if they get wind of this.

re: #151 Fenway_Nation

Not a problem. Won't need it till Saturday, and there's a fish market down the road from here.

/might have to get several I think.

re: #152 BlueCanuck

You need to start shopping now if the trout is supposed to be the regulation degree of rottenness...

re: #153 Fenway_Nation

Relax, I know a few tricks that should work, even in these temperatures.

/but will my roomates like me afterward?

I was involved in an Australian forum about when is Kevin Rudd going to stop blaming Howard.

I suppose the same thing can be said about when will the Democrats and Obama stop blaming Bush.

I haven't seen it this slow for a long time. Where is all the morning regulars?

re: #156 BlueCanuck

I haven't seen it this slow for a long time. Where is all the morning regulars?

Like most times I am in lurk mode. Not to many people around.

Waiting foe 3wood to get my daily fix of the US market. S African market is pretty flat today. I wish your currency would find its feet. It can swing as much as 100 cents in a session.

re: #155 Crux Australis

2012 at least if things continue circling the drain.

A (relatively) free and democratic Afghanistan or Iraq? The won't hesitate to take credit....

re: #158 Erik The Red

Well I have been watching the over nights. London exchange is currently down, overnight pre trading is also down. The Dow is currently down by 108.00. Which is a slight improvment. Earlier it was as far down as 130.00. The TSX will probably continue down today as well, due to the wrangle going on in our House of Commons.

re: #158 Erik The Red

Hmm....if you're looking at the Euro for any reason, one way to sneak in is invest in some Slovakian Korunas, since I believe Slovakia will be switching over to the Euro next month.

(and if the Francs and Marks from seven years ago are still convertable,,,)

re: #160 BlueCanuck

Well I have been watching the over nights. London exchange is currently down, overnight pre trading is also down. The Dow is currently down by 108.00. Which is a slight improvment. Earlier it was as far down as 130.00. The TSX will probably continue down today as well, due to the wrangle going on in our House of Commons.

I find this site very useful. Pinched from a fellow Lizard.
Index Record...

re: #161 Fenway_Nation

Hmm....if you're looking at the Euro for any reason, one way to sneak in is invest in some Slovakian Korunas, since I believe Slovakia will be switching over to the Euro next month.

(and if the Francs and Marks from seven years ago are still convertable,,,)

South African Rand. We still have exchange controls over here. I have until May/June 2009 for it to recover. Otherwise I am returning to the US with about 40% less $.

re: #162 Erik The Red

Got it bookmarked at home. I also check out these sites. CNN and Google.

/working on becoming a finance whizz kid.

Precious metals have been trending downward this AM, but looks like the brake is being applied for now.

re: #164 BlueCanuck

What's that cliche about the Chinese charachter for 'Crisis' and 'Opportunity' being the same?

Thinking about revisiting some of those U.S. Traded Canadian Royalty trusts with the decreasing price of oil and rotten-trout-slap-worthy shennanigans of the opposition bloc that seem to have no other purpose than to drive the TSX and Canadian stocks down 'til they're lower than Issac Hayes' voice............

re: #166 Fenway_Nation

The chinese character for opportunity is the combined characters of chaos and risk I think. Let me go google it.

Is it too soon for a smarmy 'Ted Rogers found out he was going to have to deal with a Dion-led coalition but decided to take the easy way out' remark?

re: #167 BlueCanuck

Here's a site explaining the myth of the characters. Seems pretty cool, although it turns out it's just a myth.

re: #169 BlueCanuck

A two-fer! A cliche AND a myth!

re: #168 Fenway_Nation

Nope, not at all. After all his company tried to bring in Negative Option billing a few years ago.

/Still got to admire the guy and the empire he built.
//but the Rogers Centre will always be the Skydome to me.

Good moring all you lizards and lurkers. It's the Blue and Fenway hour.

/or the Nation and Canuck hour if you like. ;)

re: #172 BlueCanuck

Good moring all you lizards and lurkers. It's the Blue and Fenway hour.

/or the Nation and Canuck hour if you like. ;)

And Red as the clown.

This morning's featured guest is Erik 'The Rand is Worth HOW MUCH!?' Red.

re: #173 Erik The Red

Ah, and which red are you talking about? It couldn't be you could it?

/now where did I put my trouts. . . . . .

re: #174 Fenway_Nation

This morning's featured guest is Erik 'The Rand is Worth HOW MUCH!?' Red.

One US$ will cost me R10.32. Was sitting at R8.00 about 3 months ago. Was at R6.90 when I was in the US this time last year.

re: #175 BlueCanuck

Ah, and which red are you talking about? It couldn't be you could it?

/now where did I put my trouts. . . . . .

No me. Not Fruitcup Red. Unless he wants to give himself that title.

re: #176 Erik The Red

Yea- I had some fairly recent Africa guidebooks checked out of the library (2006) that quoted the exchange rate as being 6.50 to US$1.

re: #176 Erik The Red

Ouch, that hurts. This time last year the Canadian dollar was worth $1.10 American. Now it's back down to $0.80.

Ah-ha. Apparently some lizards are having issues logging onto the site. Which browser are you boys using at this moment?

re: #179 BlueCanuck

Ouch, that hurts. This time last year the Canadian dollar was worth $1.10 American. Now it's back down to $0.80.

Hurts so bad that my ass hurts worse than... leave you guys to fill in the dots.

re: #180 BlueCanuck

Ah-ha. Apparently some lizards are having issues logging onto the site. Which browser are you boys using at this moment?

FF3

re: #179 BlueCanuck

Not sure if I told you this, but I was talking with some middle-aged Canadian tourists at a bar this summer. I jokingly asked if they were going to pay in greenbacks or loonies, since the difference was still pretty minimal at the time. I thought for sure either one of them would tell me how much they love going to the states now that the loonie could buy so much more, but the guy actually seemed disappointed.

He explained his disappointment by saying something along the lines of 'Every time the greenback loses value, everybody across the board ends up paying more for oil' and inferred that he'd gladly go back to the old US$/C$ exchange rates if it meant he could pay less for oil either here or back in Canada...

Looks like he got at least part of his wish.

From Fallback LGF:

#156 BlueCanuck :: Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:58:49 am
I haven't seen it this slow for a long time. Where is all the morning regulars?

/could you just scream?!

I've tried on a mac and PC also. Firefox and AOL on the PC, Firefox and Safari on the mac.

It IS the site...for SOME people. Maybe the posters who are there were there before it went blogglewankie (?)

What I did was go to "more options" over the search function and plug in various posters, today's date and "comments". I can see some of the posters, but I can't get into the thread.

/sob!

Good morning littleoldlady, pat, ggt, EVERYONE. I am currently using IE6 with no problems.

re: #180 BlueCanuck

Exploder Explorer.

Locked-out lizards?

What is this? The NHL?

re: #184 BlueCanuck

From Fallback LGF:

Good morning littleoldlady, pat, ggt, EVERYONE. I am currently using IE6 with no problems.

Good morning all regular early morning Lizards. Looks like its just the 3 of here Blue. I am not very good at entertaining but maybe Blue and Nation are.

Time to get a few hours shuteye.....hope I can log back in once I'm off.

Morning, regulars who seem unable to log in- hope that situation gets resolved!

re: #187 Erik The Red

Good morning all regular early morning Lizards. Looks like its just the 3 of here Blue. I am not very good at entertaining but maybe Blue and Nation are.

Plus all my "good stuff" would get me the stick and a 100 whacks from Mandy.

Now Online: 1,089
Logged in: 47

If you want to talk to them here's the site. Scroll down past the first article and click on comments. They can see and hear us, but can't make their presence known.

/mwahhhaaaahhhhaaaahhhaa

Ummm here's the link.

re: #191 BlueCanuck

If you want to talk to them here's the site. Scroll down past the first article and click on comments. They can see and hear us, but can't make their presence known.

/mwahhhaaaahhhhaaaahhhaa

Forgot link I think.

I had the same problem on another forum on Monday. I stepped away from my computer for 5 minutes and couldn't log back in for 2 hours.

Weird!

Looks like I am in trouble today. :)

/should have known better. *chuckle*

Getting dizzy here. Anyone else still around?

re: #196 BlueCanuck

Getting dizzy here. Anyone else still around?

Still here doing some work for a change than heading to the bar in about 30 min. I buying should be a cheap round. Nobody is here. What's your poison?

*sigh* Make mine a tea. Can't drink the wobbly pops for awhile, and coffee will keep me up far too late. You lucked out this time.

re: #198 BlueCanuck

*sigh* Make mine a tea. Can't drink the wobbly pops for awhile, and coffee will keep me up far too late. You lucked out this time.

Earl Grey ok? Or Rooibos?

re: #199 Erik The Red

Roobios please. Always willing to try something different.

re: #200 BlueCanuck

Wife and kids love it. Me yuck. I saw some over in the US last year. Try it if you can find it. Meant to be very good for you. I think Lipton may be one brand.

I will look for it then. Usually drink green tea at home.

re: #202 BlueCanuck

You may like it if you drink green tea. Rooibos is green when brewed. It is made from some weed or plant or something that grows out the ground.

Go for it Blue. At least one Lizard will say congrats and pop the bubbly.

Looks I'm the last one still here. Getting lonely think I'll go to the bar early. Night Lizards. See you in about 4 hours. If I'm not too drunk. Blue congrats on #10 000 won,t see it.

Wow the whole site to myself. Now I feel so important and soooo alone.

Hi Charles. I'm going to report this comment so that you can wake up the hamsters.

It's alive, IT'S ALIVE!

Welcome back to the BlueCanuck show. This hours topic, when hamsters go bad.

re: #208 BlueCanuck

It's alive, IT'S ALIVE!

So it is! Mornin' Blue!

I'm In!

Morning Scottish, Ford. Hope everyone else makes it soon.

Feels all warm and toasty all of a sudden.

Aaaahhhhh!

Still think there are some quirks, testing my e-mail nick blueing thingy.

re: #212 BlueCanuck

Morning Scottish, Ford. Hope everyone else makes it soon.

Blue and I both announced to the fallback lizards that lgf was back on, so it should just be a matter of time.

Way to go hamsters!

Coffee anyone?

I've brought donuts, too...hope the three of us don't have to eat all of them.

At last, I have an audience. :)

/well an audience that can participate.
//and this will be comment 10,000. I is an venerable lizard I thinks.

Perhaps I should have brought high-protein hamster feed instead?

Funny, nics will blue for e-mail, but not for websites. Something must be going on behind the scenes. 102 lizards logged in. Where are they?

Good Lord! I have had SO much trouble getting onto LGF this morning!
And TimeWarner cable internet service has been out for me since 11:00PM Eastern time last night and this morning it's working but LGF wasn't working.
Good morning y'all - it's 27 degrees down here in the Southland - Charlotte, though bright and sunny -and that's 27 degrees at 9:25 AM - have no idea how "warm" it'll get, but I tells ya it's COLD DOWN HERE! LOL!

re: #217 BlueCanuck

At last, I have an audience. :)

/well an audience that can participate.
//and this will be comment 10,000. I is an venerable lizard I thinks.

10,000! Congratulations, Venerable BlueCanuck!

Grrr! I got the spinning wheel of death.

re: #220 realwest

Good Lord! I have had SO much trouble getting onto LGF this morning!
And TimeWarner cable internet service has been out for me since 11:00PM Eastern time last night and this morning it's working but LGF wasn't working.
Good morning y'all - it's 27 degrees down here in the Southland - Charlotte, though bright and sunny -and that's 27 degrees at 9:25 AM - have no idea how "warm" it'll get, but I tells ya it's COLD DOWN HERE! LOL!

Good morning {real}! Did you have 'fun' with the computer folks yesterday?

re: #217 BlueCanuck

//and this will be comment 10,000. I is an venerable lizard I thinks.

WhoooHoooo!

Go Blue! Go Blue! Go Blue! Go Blue! Go Blue! Go Blue!

Morning Realwest. Yeah, for some reason if you weren't in and posting that's all you got. Man am I going to get it tomorrow morning. :p

re: #220 realwest

Morning Real. Spread out. There is plenty of room here this morning.

re: #217 BlueCanuck

At last, I have an audience. :)

/well an audience that can participate.
//and this will be comment 10,000. I is an venerable lizard I thinks.

Congratulations! (just trying to get one closer to 10K...)

BTW, Scottish, any Boston Cremes?

re: #223 scottishbuzzsaw
Hi Scotti - well they are going to give me a new computer - we're still negotiating the details of the deal, but they are crediting me with the full price I paid for this computer 20 months ago!
How are you doing?

re: #227 Bloodnok

Takes time, when you got a lot, it doesn't take much at all.

re: #228 Ford_Prefect

BTW, Scottish, any Boston Cremes?

Oh yes... please help yourself!

re: #227 Bloodnok

Congratulations! (just trying to get one closer to 10K...)

I am closing in on 3,000 myself. And that is just since June. Maybe I should start working more and chatting less...

Naw...

re: #217 BlueCanuck
Hey Blue, congratulations! That's quite a milestone you've reached.

re: #231 scottishbuzzsaw

Oh yes... please help yourself!

mmmmm. Yum.

Thanks real. Too bad my Karma isn't as high. :)

/but I don't say as much pithy stuff as the rest of you folks.

re: #229 realwest

Hi Scotti - well they are going to give me a new computer - we're still negotiating the details of the deal, but they are crediting me with the full price I paid for this computer 20 months ago!
How are you doing?

Glad to hear...hope the ordeal will be over soon.
All's well in this here neck of the woods. We're going to get rain this morning, turning to snow this afternoon...should be fun!

re: #232 Ford_Prefect
Good morning Ford - when did you get registered on LGF? Cause it seems to me you need to do more posting and less work! LOL!

re: #233 realwest

Hey Blue, congratulations! That's quite a milestone you've reached.

I only need about 60,000 or so to catch you.

Maybe I should remove this idiot from my Facebook list. :(

Douchebag is excited about the coalition government. Finally, a majority of Canadians have a voice in governing. That's democracy in action!

/name changed to protect the innocent. Namely me.

re: #230 BlueCanuck

Takes time, when you got a lot, it doesn't take much at all.

My first LGF visit was an open thread so I got in waaay to easily (compared to most who wait months for the opportunity). I decided to keep quiet for a year and learn. I'm glad I did. I think it spared me several lizard logic beatdowns.

re: #235 BlueCanuck
Hell Blue - I can't access anyone's information, but my Karma-to-#of comments- absolutely sucks! So don't worry about it.

re: #240 Bloodnok

My first LGF visit was an open thread so I got in waaay to easily (compared to most who wait months for the opportunity). I decided to keep quiet for a year and learn. I'm glad I did. I think it spared me several lizard logic beatdowns.

I got in fairly easily too. I wasn't smart enough to wait to post though. I have to say that people around here seemed to accept me right away, for which I am grateful. I have only received a few whacking from Mandy, and they were all deserved. :-)

re: #241 realwest

Yes, but you are one of the originals. Most of your comments probably happened waaaaayyyyyy before the ding feature. In fact it wasn't around when I signed up. So look at all that Karma you missed out on. :)

re: #238 Ford_Prefect
I think Mandy has more comments than I do - you'd probably need about 70,000 comments to catch her!

WTF? I have been trying since 5am EST to get in here!

Good morning all. Dunno if anyone saw this, but about a half hour ago i was watching CNN-IBN (Indian news network). they were showing mass protests in Mumba, Bangalore, and Hyderabad. Looked to be thousands of people marcing carrying signs demanding war.

Okay, as far as I'm concerned, this creature can HAVE the garbage can!

[Link: www.neatorama.com...]

Oh-oh, spinning beachball of death is back.

9 years ago today.

Before there was 9/11, and 343 FDNY firefighters being killed in the line of duty. There was 12-03-99, and 6 Worcester, MA. firefighters being killed in the line of duty, at the abandoned Worcester Cold Storage.

RIP:
Jay, Gerry, Joe, Tom, Tim, Paul.

[Link: www.telegram.com...]

re: #247 scottishbuzzsaw

*snicker* Guy asks if they taste any good. Why do you think they are endangered?

/and yes they are crabs, land based totally. One of two separate species on the island that are.

re: #249 smokefire

9 years ago today.

Before there was 9/11, and 343 FDNY firefighters being killed in the line of duty. There was 12-03-99, and 6 Worcester, MA. firefighters being killed in the line of duty, at the abandoned Worcester Cold Storage.

RIP:
Jay, Gerry, Joe, Tom, Tim, Paul.

[Link: www.telegram.com...]

Has it been 9 years? Seems like yesterday.

RIP

re: #249 smokefire

I'll repeat that...

I can't believe it has been 9 years. Seems like yesterday. RIP

re: #243 BlueCanuck
Well that's true. Course it could be that folks out here don't find me nearly as insightful or witty as I think I am, either! LOL!
Uh, oh - this doesn't seem to want to post, either - hope LGF doesn't have any technical difficulties again!
And I was logged in but then couldn't post this comment because I wasn't logged in - so I logged out and logged in again - hope this works this time!

Someone needs to kick the servers....

re: #254 vxbush

Someone needs to kick the servers....

We have the chocolate all to ourselves, however.

I guess it's up to me to keep this place going. "Come on Bloodnok, this is your big moment."

/faint...THUD

re: #256 Bloodnok

I guess it's up to me to keep this place going. "Come on Bloodnok, this is your big moment."

/faint...THUD

ROTFL! *slap slap* Get hold of yourself, Bloodnok, you can do it!

re: #118 zombie

The Left have always been about violence. Always, going back to the French Revolution. Some of them are more circumspect than others, but once you get past the veneer of, not even civility, really, but of narcissistic "I'm so good" bullshit, they are all about mass graves, real torture, and totalitarian control.

They don't really try to hide it very much. If the media weren't their bitch, a few good reporters could blow their facade up at any given time. As it is, their agenda is quite transparent if a person just looks at the outcomes that they produce, rather than the fluffy pink goodness they profess. It's like the Weather Underground, robbing banks and planning genocide in the name of "peace". By which, they mean totalitarian control by them, and enslavement for the rest of society "for their own good".

Just a glass of wine, please:

[Link: www.engrish.com...]

re: #259 scottishbuzzsaw

Just a glass of wine, please:

[Link: www.engrish.com...]

That's just nuts.

re: #259 scottishbuzzsaw

Just a glass of wine, please:

[Link: www.engrish.com...]

That's just nuts.
/(Second attempt)

re: #254 vxbush

Someone needs to kick the servers....

Always use the proper tool to repair or upgrade a delicate piece of equipment.

Here, use this 16 pound sledge hammer while I go look for the fire axe...

Now where did I put that Redbull. Ah there it is. Here hamster, hamster, hamster. . . . . . . . . .

/Help save me from the circle of doom.

You never knocked me down Ray. You hear? You never knocked me down!