You may have noticed some downtime last night; it’s because we’ve finally switched over to that new high-powered web server we mentioned recently, and a few things needed tweaking. Here’s an open thread while we look for more loose ends.
UPDATE at 12/3/08 9:50:20 am:
There are lots of little things to fix after a major move like this; thanks for your patience while we iron out the problems.
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scottishbuzzsaw Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:31:42am |
Oh darn...I was finally able to keep up with the threads when LGF was slow. All hope is lost now.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:35:39am |
Cheer up scottish, most posters will be in the same boat.
/post comment and pray. . . .
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:36:50am |
Web server
Note the imperialistic master-slave dialectic.
LIBERATE THE "SERVER"!
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:38:28am |
Good morning World O'Lizards.
My coffee hasn't kicked in, yet, going for another soon, but my hope is that today will be a good one for the forces of light.
Coffee...
I also notice that the web site is a bit glitchy, today.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:38:29am |
New web server ...
... server must have been trained at a Waffle House ...
/no, they can be pretty good
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:41:00am |
re: #3 Occasional Reader
Web server
Note the imperialistic master-slave dialectic.
LIBERATE THE "SERVER"!
Ever look at the back of a hard drive? They have settings for master AND slave. :)
/you know so they can take turns.
//now I am out of here.
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:41:12am |
re: #5 pre-Boomer Marine brat
New web server ...
... server must have been trained at a Waffle House ...
/no, they can be pretty good
You're just trying to butter up the web host...
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:41:23am |
And in other news:
Guardian commentidiotator: Mumbai massacre is just another example of how everything in "the region" sucks, and it's all America's fault, and maybe Obama can save it, but probably not, because even he's just an American, and they all suck.
[I'm paraphrasing, but only slightly]
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:41:35am |
re: #2 BlueCanuck
Cheer up scottish, most posters will be in the same boat.
/post comment and pray. . . .
Do you see Erik in here anywhere?
Last I saw on Fallback, he managed to escape after you did.
heh
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:43:31am |
re: #8 Golem Akbar
You're just trying to butter up the web host...
heh ... let's not get a pun string rolling until we're certain we can maintain it.
Actually, I was being cynical about technology in general. Been around it too long.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:43:50am |
Ohhh..ahhh. I want to take the shiney new server out for a spin..
Can I have the keys Charles? I'll have her back by 10. Promise...
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:46:54am |
re: #11 pre-Boomer Marine brat
heh ... let's not get a pun string rolling until we're certain we can maintain it.
Good idea. There's still too much blood in my coffee stream as yet.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:49:06am |
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Deafdog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:49:16am |
In other, other news, Oil down to $47 per barrel.
Russia, Iran and Venezuala (among others) can't be happy.
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:49:36am |
Rough ride in this morning but all is loaded fine now! I was just caught in a habitrail of perpetual spinning and had to re login and it wouldn't let me post...
Do the new hamsters need training (or are they censor trained to sniff out substandard comments?)?!?!
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:51:29am |
re: #17 Deafdog
In other, other news, Oil down to $47 per barrel.
Russia, Iran and Venezuala (among others) can't be happy.
To quote someone, "Screw them!". Let them be unhappy. If they bleed enough money, then they can't be big jerks, just little jerks.
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scottishbuzzsaw Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:52:52am |
re: #18 Right mind left
Do the new hamsters need training (or are they censor trained to sniff out substandard comments?)?!?!
Are there any hamster-whisperers in the Lizard Clan?
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:53:35am |
re: #20 scottishbuzzsaw
Are there any hamster-whisperers in the Lizard Clan?
No; I'm a cat whisperer. I have fake whiskers and everything.
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:54:12am |
re: #11 pre-Boomer Marine brat
heh ... let's not get a pun string rolling until we're certain we can maintain it.
Actually, I was being cynical about technology in general. Been around it too long.
Hmmm, are you the one derailing the hamsters with your negative thinking?
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:56:19am |
re: #20 scottishbuzzsaw
Are there any hamster-whisperers in the Lizard Clan?
Charrrlllesss...the hamsters need feeding! Change the litter? Did the wheels all fall off with the super powered steroidal mega-hamsters?
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:57:02am |
Now I can't get new comments except my own postings (I'm in a vacuum - hellp!)
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:58:34am |
Boy, this talking to myself is like being at home alone...
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 7:59:16am |
Does this mean we can withstand a Drudgelanche now?
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redc1c4 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:01:06am |
i was wondering when i could get back in... LoL was locked out too.
off to a j*b interview this AM, so no hanging out here for me.
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:01:15am |
Had a long dinner talk with Mr DT last night about all the things people might have done during the terror attacks especially in the hotels and restaraunts that had plenty of alcohol, and dishwashing soap. And lots of sharp knives.
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:01:53am |
I can't see anyone else - it's me, right? Finally I will see what everyone else has been saying and you'll say, sure...we believe you...
Is the new server faster than the speed of light or did it solve the space time continuum problem by folding on itself and stringing us out on that new string theory? Yeah, string theory is superseding threads now.
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redc1c4 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:01:58am |
re: #22 Right mind left
Hmmm, are you the one derailing the hamsters with your negative thinking?
no. that's Moriarty...
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Deafdog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:03:00am |
re: #19 Honorary Yooper
To quote someone, "Screw them!". Let them be unhappy. If they bleed enough money, then they can't be big jerks, just little jerks.
I'm not crying for them. In fact, I'd like to discuss the implications regarding oil are to see how this is going to play out in domestic US politics.
The predicitions I've seen is for Oil will fall below $40 by 1st quarter of 2009, and stay below $50 until last quarter of 2009, decimating the domestic domestic industry. Will they ask for - or get - a bailout?
Towards the end of 2009, the price will start to rebound to a range of $75 -$90 by the end of 2010 - setting up for a nice campaign issue for 2010 election. Then, we will get another explosion in prices, setting up for a nice presidential campaign issue.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:03:20am |
Alright! I am back.
Seems I have said that before though.
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:03:55am |
I still am unable to get new comments unless I post something, then preview it...
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:06:14am |
re: #32 Ford_Prefect
Alright! I am back.
Seems I have said that before though.
It's deja vu all over again.
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VegasRick Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:07:56am |
re: #33 Right mind left
I still am unable to get new comments unless I post something, then preview it...
Me too.
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saberry0530 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:08:02am |
re: #34 Honorary Yooper
It's deja vu all over again.
IT's vu ja de. The ffeling you get that none of this has ever happend before
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redc1c4 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:09:37am |
re: #28 DistantThunder
Had a long dinner talk with Mr DT last night about all the things people might have done during the terror attacks especially in the hotels and restaraunts that had plenty of alcohol, and dishwashing soap. And lots of sharp knives.
never forget the usefulness of a dry chemical fire extinguisher:
the powder stream reaches farther than any pepper spray, and unlike pepper, no one is immune to it's effects. while they are coughing their lungs out and pawing at their eyes, you can whack the shit out of them, ala Mandy, with the canister, then take their weapons.
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VegasRick Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:09:47am |
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Deafdog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:09:57am |
In Other, other, other news...Saxby Chambliss credits Palin for his win.
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Deafdog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:12:09am |
re: #40 VegasRick
I'm suprised you could hear me.
I think folks are just discouraged from posting for the moment. I had the same hic-ups this morning as everone else, but LGF seems back to normal to me now.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:12:41am |
Former President Bill Clinton says he is open to the possibility of a role in the Obama administration but said he otherwise plans to be deferential to both the president and Clinton's wife, the soon-to-be secretary of state.
Clinton could be named as a sort of super-ambassador on a specific issue like India, or on a broad topic like restoring goodwill for the United States abroad. He was deferential to President George W. Bush, accepting assignments on hurricane and tsunami relief in conjunction with the president’s father, former President George H.W. Bush
OMG- wasn't this predicted in a spoof?
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Bumr50 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:14:01am |
I think my girlfriend has something in the loo for loose ends.
Let me look...
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:14:04am |
re: #30 redc1c4
no. that's Moriarty...
Which one?!
In fiction
* Count Jim Moriarty, character in The Goon Show;
* Dean Moriarty, character in the novel On the Road by Jack Kerouac;
* Jack Moriarty, a mostly-hallucinated nemesis of Gregory House on the Holmes-inspired television series House;
* Mark Moriarty, troublemaking character from the 1993 DOS game Eagle Eye Mysteries;
* Moriarty - Tank radio operator and engineer in the 1970 film Kelly's Heroes;
* Professor Moriarty, a popular villain in the Sherlock Holmes series of mysteries;
* Colin Moriarty, crime boss and owner of Moriarty's Saloon located in Megaton of the action role-playing game Fallout 3;
[edit] In real life
* Brian Moriarty, computer game author mostly known for Trinity and Loom;
* Cathy Moriarty-Gentile, American actress nominated for a Best Supporting Actress Academy Award for her role in Raging Bull;
* Cecil Moriarty, Irish rugby international;
* Drew McWeeny, film critic who writes under the pseudonym "Moriarty";
* George Moriarty, American baseball player and umpire;
* Jack Moriarty, an Australian rules footballer;
* John Moriarty (conductor), American conductor and stage director;
* John Moriarty (writer), Irish writer and philosopher;
* Michael Moriarty, American actor now based in British Columbia, Canada; grandson of the baseball player;
* Paul Moriarty, Democratic State Assemblyman from New Jersey representing the 4th Legislative District; Mayor of Washington Township (Gloucester County, NJ); former investigative journalist for KYW-TV, channel 3 (CBS Network) Philadelphia, PA;
* William Moriarty, a leader of the Communist Party of Canada who sided with the Right Opposition
I tried to post this before with some additional comment about not commenting so much usually except now I can't get new comments unless I post a comment (way to resolve extreme lurkers?)...
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bloodnok Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:14:12am |
Let's have the election again so we can see how the debate threads hold up.
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Buck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:16:48am |
re: #9 Occasional Reader
And in other news:
Guardian commentidiotator: Mumbai massacre is just another example of how everything in "the region" sucks, and it's all America's fault, and maybe Obama can save it, but probably not, because even he's just an American, and they all suck.
[I'm paraphrasing, but only slightly]
In the article it says "Yasser Arafat gave blood for the people of New York." Ick... He gave his HIV filled blood to NY?
I don't even think that is true. If anyone is registered on that site and can leave a comment, please ask.
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:17:17am |
re: #43 Sharmuta
I thought it was "eyes roll" HAHAHAHAAA...
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:20:10am |
re: #53 Sharmuta
My nic is not blue. No one has a blue nic.
No, but someone here has a red stapler...
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Deafdog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:22:20am |
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:22:45am |
re: #56 Deafdog
...a Swingline, no doubt
Aha! It must be you, for I did not mention a manufacturer!
/boy, this is lame on my part
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Deafdog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:23:42am |
re: #55 vxbush
No, but someone here has a red stapler...
Stupid factoid - Before Office Space, Swingline did not even MAKE red staplers. The props dept just painted one for the movie.
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2by2 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:23:56am |
thanks, Charles
I see the difference, it's loading much faster.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:25:44am |
Welcome back Lizards was feeling very lonely this morning only me and Blue fora few hours.
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MikeAlv77 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:25:45am |
Know this was on a previous thread but saw this for myself.. Went to a local gun shop on the way home last night to get some ammo. They had plenty but what was interesting was that in the 10 minutes I was there is that they sold 2 handguns... Guy told me Obama getting elected is the best thing for his business.. People are buying guns like crazy he told me!
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Buck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:28:45am |
re: #59 Sharmuta
Buck is blue...
Yes I am... My 15 y/o daughter is giving me grief about her school work, my car uses gasoline as if it was still cheap, and my jeans don't fit right anymore.
How did you know?
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:29:32am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:30:07am |
re: #53 Sharmuta
My nic is not blue. No one has a blue nic.
{Sharmuta}
I don't LIKE it when you're blue.
Stay just the way you ARE!
/hyperventilating
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:30:43am |
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96RoadKing Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:31:02am |
There must be a lot of loose ends to address. I'm still having difficulties.
Greetings to all from Minnesnowta!
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:31:38am |
re: #66 Sharmuta
I have tested my dinger- it works.
Missed the normal over night/dead thread Lizards. Had to think of something to say, instead of lurking.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:31:44am |
re: #64 Erik The Red
Still getting the wheel of death
*salute* to the last lizard crawling last night
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:32:59am |
re: #73 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*salute* to the last lizard crawling last night
Yes I was. Back from the bar. Still buying for everyone.
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:33:42am |
Almost on topic. Pretty good by razorbacker standards.
Can anyone recommend a reliable shop for laptop repair? I'm not interested in sending it back to HP, as it is long out of warranty.
HP Pavillion 5375us. It has a bad power supply. It's not the cord, I've checked.
Quick inspection doesn't even reveal the mystery of opening the case. It may well be that a 3 pound drilling hammer and crowbar aren't the proper tools to use, anyway.
If you don't want to comment on site, I've blued the nic.
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Ojoe Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:34:07am |
Well LGF loaded pretty slowly when I first tried it this AM; it cane up all funny and only partially.
Then I tried again, and got "can't connect, server dropped the connection, which happens sometimes when the server is busy."
3rd time worked OK.
Good Morning All.
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:34:08am |
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:34:11am |
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Eowyn2 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:34:17am |
re: #1 scottishbuzzsaw
Oh darn...I was finally able to keep up with the threads when LGF was slow. All hope is lost now.
heck, I'm usually 200 posts behind everyone else.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:34:23am |
Hey Lizards - couldn't get on all morning. Glad to see LGF is up & running again.
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:34:42am |
Occassional Reader said on the last thread: One thing at least we know about Obama is that he's a great gun salesman. Who knew?
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:35:31am |
Well, I guess today will be a bug squashing kind of day. In India, they're still finding bombs left over from the terror attack, which begs the question of why the bomb squad didn't sweep the site of all the attacks for additional weapons and bombs, if only to prevent accidental discharge/detonations while investigators sought out intel and evidence from the various locations.
India, and Mumbai in particular, is going to have to get a crash course in upgrading their SWAT capabilities in a hurry. The attacks exposed a tremendous hole in their domestic security. At the same time, India is demanding Pakistan hand over 20 LeT terrorists, and Pakistan is giving them the silent treatment for the moment, but suggests that if Pakistanis are involved that Pakistan will handle the trials... That's not exactly a comforting thought either.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:35:39am |
The Wheel on the bus goes round and round, round and round. That Fucking wheel on the bus goes round and...
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:35:44am |
Dinnerjacket is in trouble. :-)
Ahmadinejad: Iranian economy in danger
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was quoted Wednesday as saying that Iran will be forced to trim spending and generous subsidies and raise taxes. It's a sensitive admission for the Iranian president, who is seeking re-election in June.
This isn't going to sit well with the Iranian people.
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:36:02am |
re: #74 Sharmuta
Hey- Mandy turns hers ON in public.
Yes, but she doesn't announce it so broadly as you do.
/
In other news, we got a new portable DVD players for the son. I have to say, the picture was really, really good on it. And it has the rotating display, which is really handy. But they made the mistake of making the lid to the DVD disk cover of a plastic that keeps every single darn fingerprint you can imagine. Why didn't they even think about that?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:36:42am |
Charles,
Two problems I've seen so far:
1. When I go to make a comment on a spinoff link, it claims that I am not logged in, when I most certainly am, and can upding/downding the links.
2. The ability to reverse a ding on the spinoff links seems to be non-functional.
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:36:48am |
Oh, goody. Market up 75 points when Obama begins to speak.
Which way will it go? What a mystery.
Hush, Obama. Just be quiet a while, please?
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Eowyn2 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:36:58am |
re: #70 96RoadKing
How are things going in your senate race.
Has Frankin found more ballots in his closet?
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:39:05am |
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:39:25am |
re: #87 vxbush
Yes, but she doesn't announce it so broadly as you do.
Oh yes she did- it was pretty funny too. I think I stuck it in my favorites.
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:39:36am |
re: #86 Bubblehead II
I doubt he's going to touch his spending on the nuclear program or his missile tech. You know, the very programs that are funded by those oil revenues that have all but dried up as a result of the global slump.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:39:45am |
re: #91 DeafDog
It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Iran's breakeven price for oil is $90.
Guess they'll have to spend less money on their nuke program.
What a shame.
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Eowyn2 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:40:11am |
re: #84 lawhawk
Well, I guess today will be a bug squashing kind of day. In India, they're still lawhawk.blogspot.com...] target="_blank">At the same time, India is demanding Pakistan hand over 20 LeT terrorists, and Pakistan is giving them the silent treatment for the moment, but suggests that if Pakistanis are involved that Pakistan will handle the trials... That's not exactly a comforting thought either.
Don't worry, I'm sure the UN or Jimmy Carter will watch the proceedings to make sure they are utterly fair and unbiased.
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:40:32am |
I'm still not able to get new comments unless I post. Geez, you'll have to put me on GAZE since the only thing I can think of after Sharm's dinger comment is 'posting' on a horse...but we don't need to have this turn into a pole thread...
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:41:06am |
re: #92 Sharmuta
Oh yes she did- it was pretty funny too. I think I stuck it in my favorites.
Oh. Well, then I take it back. Carry on, then!
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SummerSong Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:43:18am |
Bill Richardson speaking to us in Spanish on FOX news
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Athos Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:43:37am |
re: #84 lawhawk
I think the Pakistani government is getting very close to learning the risk when one spends a lot of time walking on the double yellow center line of a very busy road - eventually a wreck is going to take place.
They are going to have to decide to either confront the radical and rogue elements and perhaps spark a civil war or risk a war because they will not confront those elements. It's not that different from the question that the Taliban had to answer in 2001.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:44:26am |
re: #97 vxbush
Here:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Look for our forthcoming book, The Joys of Dinging, coming soon.
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notutopia Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:44:38am |
Still have much difficulty here. Site freezes up. Will not refresh without booting me off LGF and then saying that the server cannot be reached. Keep getting the spinning wheel and also mucho difficulty then at attempts to re log in. New Comments are not reloading...
I'll come back later so that the constant attempts at refreshing is not dogging down the system. I'm sure this must be happening to others, the traffic this morning is too limited to just a few lizards who were able to get into the site.
BBL Lizards.
: )
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:44:55am |
re: #85 Erik The Red
The Wheel on the bus goes round and round, round and round. That Fucking wheel on the bus goes round and...
you are turning red...
Is this a color thread?
/racist
while waiting...
Down the fire pole, round and round the drain hole...I'm so dizzy...
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Athos Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:45:04am |
re: #98 SummerSong
So much for change...more Clintonista retreads.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:46:04am |
OK, this time I am not saying that I am back.
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:47:40am |
I think I will come back later too, no need for me to 'clog' things up.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:50:45am |
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:53:59am |
Charles I am no expert, but could the problems that LGF have something to do with IP address's
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:54:29am |
What a coincidence. My ISP did a major upgrade last night, and I had to spend 5 minutes on the phone with them to get online. The poor guy had to re-enter all my info. I asked him if he was going to have to do that for all their customers, and he said "I'm afraid so."
{geeks}
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 8:59:04am |
A belated mornin' all.
I read an encouraging article by Gearson in the WaPo this a.m. in which he pointed out that The One may well hold a great deal of the course already established by the much-maligned W.
I also see in a Tony Blankley article cited at RCP that Obama just may turn out to be a bit of a centrist.
Did all the Kossacks, Code Pinkies & Huffers get taken to the cleaners? Oh, my.
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:06:05am |
re: #84 lawhawk
Well, I guess today will be a bug squashing kind of day. In India, they're still finding bombs left over from the terror attack, which begs the question of why the bomb squad didn't sweep the site of all the attacks for additional weapons and bombs, if only to prevent accidental discharge/detonations while investigators sought out intel and evidence from the various locations.
India, and Mumbai in particular, is going to have to get a crash course in upgrading their SWAT capabilities in a hurry. The attacks exposed a tremendous hole in their domestic security. At the same time, India is demanding Pakistan hand over 20 LeT terrorists, and Pakistan is giving them the silent treatment for the moment, but suggests that if Pakistanis are involved that Pakistan will handle the trials... That's not exactly a comforting thought either.
One thing continues to stump me. Islam is basically a religion invented by and for traders. It's central motif is about business relations. That said, how come the larger Muslim community hasn't taking these idiots out for being bad for business?
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Prikolno Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:09:31am |
Charles, are you collocating the server or renting a dedicated server ? Who is managing it for you ?
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:12:09am |
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:17:54am |
re: #116 unreconstructed rebel
This post looks more complete in "lgf spy" than it does in this window. And the "quote" thing wouldn't quote # 116.
Squash those bugs!
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:21:39am |
Those comment problems are not due to server bugs. #116 has an unclosed HTML tag.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:22:47am |
We do have some problems going on, possibly related to the change of IP address for the new server. Still checking.
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:24:03am |
FYI: Realwest emailed me and asked me to post this:
Hi Vicki! I hope you are well - if you can post on LGF, could ya please post that everytime I try to post ANYTHING, I get a message that I'm not logged in - even though I am? I logged out, then logged in again and tried to post and got another message saying I'm not logged in!
Gah!
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:24:19am |
re: #119 wrenchwench
This post looks more complete in "lgf spy" than it does in this window. And the "quote" thing wouldn't quote # 116.
Squash those bugs!
Quote function works fine in preview. I'm having a couple wheels of death here, a few slow page loads there. Dinger works.
Testing
The only problem I have is I'm not blue. I feel nekkid.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:26:47am |
re: #125 Sharmuta
The only problem I have is I'm not blue. I feel nekkid.
Your comment looks smurfy to me, Sharm.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:32:10am |
Mandy was rating a comment, got knocked out and cannot get logged back in.
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Deafdog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:32:59am |
re: #124 vxbush
FWIW - I had to repeat the log-on a few times this morning before the operation stuck and I could post.
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nyc redneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:34:24am |
wow, hey everyone.
good thing i had a lot to do this morning. to keep me busy.
i was abt. to have a conniption fit trying to get on.
lol
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:35:20am |
The spell check is not working. I get an error message the list cannot be opened.
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:35:24am |
re: #123 Charles
The page didn't load for me this morning, just checked back now and was able to load. I got the swirrling circle of death trying to log on on the front page, had to go to the comments in order to log on. Don't know if these are problems related to the switch so just FYI. Oh, and got an error just now trying to spell check this post.
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wahabicorridor Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:38:34am |
MAY HAVE NOTICED SOME DOWNTIME?!
I think it's called withdrawal
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:39:12am |
re: #129 Deafdog
FWIW - I had to repeat the log-on a few times this morning before the operation stuck and I could post.
Instead of trying to log onto the main page, try going to the comments and logging in there. It worked for me.
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:40:02am |
re: #121 Charles
Those comment problems are not due to server bugs. #116 has an unclosed HTML tag.
Interesting. I started by quoting #84 lawhawk, then adding a response. Same thing happened two different times starting from scratch. Second time, I saw the problem in preview & did not post. Hmmm. Wonder when/how the tag got smushed?
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:40:30am |
re: #134 wahabicorridor
MAY HAVE NOTICED SOME DOWNTIME?!
I think it's called withdrawal
hahaha, but true! I haven't visited LGF since last Wednesday and when I couldn't load the page this morning my heart sank.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:40:44am |
Charles, I think you have fixed it. I can now keep up with LGF comments.
/Not sure that the slow pacing will sit well with all lizards.
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Deafdog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:42:24am |
re: #136 turn
Instead of trying to log onto the main page, try going to the comments and logging in there. It worked for me.
Now that you mention it, that's exactly where I had luck, too.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:43:22am |
Tried to post a comment and it got stuck.
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:43:36am |
wow... it took or ever to get online today! What's up with the hamsters?
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:44:30am |
re: #144 Kenneth
wow... it took or ever to get online today! What's up with the hamsters?
Hamsters got a new cage and have been moving their shit around.
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JumpLandPackRepeat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:44:39am |
Thanks for the upgrade Charles.
Working on first cup of coffee...mmm...tastes like an Angel...
Ready to get edumicated through some interesting thread topics and debates.
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SummerSong Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:45:02am |
re: #117 Prikolno
Charles, are you collocating the server or renting a dedicated server ? Who is managing it for you ?
I have a question...how would you knowing that help anything?
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:45:19am |
OK, the spell checker is fixed.
Still working on other problems.
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zerodamage Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:45:38am |
I am noticing serious performance issues on the main page. The comments load up fairly quickly but loading the main page is painfully slow.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:46:38am |
Logged in. Hello all Lizards that can read this. Charles thank you for all you do to keep your site running fast and smoothly. Today must be very frustrating. It makes me very greatfull for what you do.
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:48:20am |
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seekeroftruth Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:48:53am |
Yea! ...finally made it in! : - )
Thanks Charles and congratulations on the new server!
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:49:23am |
re: #144 Kenneth
wow... it took or ever to get online today! What's up with the hamsters?
It only took you or ever, it took me for ever!
/
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Ojoe Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:50:14am |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:50:25am |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:51:12am |
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:51:15am |
re: #155 Mike in Georgia
"WHACK"
well that helped
Now I've hit my head very hard three times now and nothing has changed. What's up?
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:51:24am |
Charles, We do all appreciate your improvements. I promise I'm gonna hit the tip jar as soon as I finish my Christmas shopping!
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Spenser (with an S) Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:52:38am |
So, for your viewing pleasure... more fake-Christian moonbattery. I got such good responses yesterday (which I promptly pummeled him with) that I thought I would share again;
Regarding constructive criticism of the Arab world, it is a difficult process. I doubt that I will ever be qualified to be effective at constructively criticizing it even if I stay here for the rest of my life. The one people group to whom I feel that I am capable of offering criticism is on Americans, especially Americans who are not aware of some of the historical truths of the Middle East Conflict. I am in no position to tell Arabs what to do. I am in no position to tell the Israelis what to do. My own roots are far away from what is happening here. What I can do is influence Americans. America is responsible for many of the injustices that take place in the conflict. Those bombs that fell over Lebannon two and a half years ago were made in America and paid for by America. I CAN object to that. I CAN criticize that because it is my home and my people who are perpetrating the injustice... so I do. I criticize American foreign policy by attempting to explain the deeper truths of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
If I criticized Arabs or Israelis, I wouldnt get anywhere. They would simply say, "you dont know what it is like to be us"... and they would be right. I dont know what it is like to be a survivor of the Holocaust. I dont know what it is like to be forced from my home late at night. I dont know what it is like to grow up in a refugee camp, my father in an Israeli prison, held without a trial and without even being told what he did. I cannot speak to these people. I speak to Americans who see the Middle East in stark colors of black and white.So, my suggestion is, instead of trying to constructively criticize Israel or the Arab countries, try to spread the truth about injustices that happen in the Middle East and then criticize US foreign policy in the region... because it certainly does stand in need of criticism.
/gack!
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:53:33am |
From Mandy:
I got logged in, tried to post a comment and then got a window saying I'm not logged in.
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:54:25am |
re: #124 vxbush Thanks for posting that.
CHARLES - please ignore my e-mail!
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Mike in Georgia Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:56:47am |
re: #163 Sharmuta
tell her to log out on front page and log in on comment page and
try again
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Ojoe Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:57:41am |
re: #162 Spenser (with an S)
I am in no position to tell Arabs what to do.
I am: Quit murdering.
Gack is right.
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Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:58:43am |
Man, deja vu, it felt like yesterday when my 30 minute drive home took 4 hours
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Pyrocles Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:58:53am |
Good news that this may hurt his chances for "re-election". Mahmoud may in fact lose to another candidate hand-picked by the same Guardian Council that picked him... Didn't the last Iranian election get like 8% voter turnout? The candidates are all the same; each hand-picked by the real rulers - the mullahs.
re: #86 Bubblehead II
Dinnerjacket is in trouble. :-)
Ahmadinejad: Iranian economy in danger
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was quoted Wednesday as saying that Iran will be forced to trim spending and generous subsidies and raise taxes. It's a sensitive admission for the Iranian president, who is seeking re-election in June.
This isn't going to sit well with the Iranian people.
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:58:57am |
Am I in? I'm not sure what is working and what isn't. Feels like the matrix...
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:59:44am |
re: #162 Spenser (with an S)
So, for your viewing pleasure... more fake-Christian moonbattery. I got such good responses yesterday (which I promptly pummeled him with) that I thought I would share again;
/gack!
I guess he wants the west to go the way of Europe into the Dark Age. The Church's official position then was to go sit in a cave & let the world go to hell.
As for me and my house? No thank you.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 9:59:56am |
re: #162 Spenser (with an S)
So, for your viewing pleasure... more fake-Christian moonbattery. I got such good responses yesterday (which I promptly pummeled him with) that I thought I would share again;
/gack!
What an asshat. America causes relatively little problems in the Middle East. To borrow from Billy Joel: We don't start the fires. We don't light 'em, but we try to fight 'em. But that fact will never be understood by buffoons such as him.
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SummerSong Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:01:29am |
I'm not experiencing any of the problems being mentioned here (though I have in the past). Perhaps because I stayed logged in overnight?
Hopefully, Charles works it out.
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Flying Dutchman Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:02:23am |
re: #160 redstateredneck
Charles, We do all appreciate your improvements. I promise I'm gonna hit the tip jar as soon as I finish my Christmas shopping!
Going to the top jar right now, before Christmas, I rather give to LGF than spend on some useless Chinese made rubbish.
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Ojoe Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:03:34am |
re: #174 unreconstructed rebel
Actually in the Dark Ages the Church was saving what was left of civilization.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:03:38am |
Glad to be back. Been having a heck of a time getting back to LGF and logged in again.
For some reason it is claiming I am not logged in when I attempt to comment.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:03:59am |
Good afternoon.
In market news the DOW opened way down, then shot up to around 110 points over, now is at 62 points up.
Oil is down to $47.37.
Funny how it was "price fixing" and Bush's fault when oil was $147 a barrel but now it's good old supply and demand. So much for the windfall profits tax.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:04:17am |
PA: Hebron tensions could erupt into all-out confrontation
"The presence of the Jewish settlers in the city is a serious provocation," the PA officials said. "Unless the [Israeli] government removes them from the city, there will be a big explosion."
...
Nabil Abu Rudaineh, a spokesman for Abbas, accused the IDF of "collusion" with the settlers in launching attacks on Palestinian residents of Hebron. He said that the latest violence in the city was part of an "organized terrorism campaign" against the Palestinians.
Ehud "The Goniff" Olmert will probably not hesitate to unleash the IDF on the settlers.
The sooner Israelis elect a new government the better - and hopefully one who will move to formally annex the West Bank and Gaza unless the PA and Hamas can get their act together in short order.
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Russkilitlover Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:04:46am |
Good morning, all. I actually got some work done earlier, since I couldn't log on. Whew! Glad that's over...now back to LGF and the new super server.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:05:14am |
re: #177 Flying Dutchman
Going to the top jar right now, before Christmas, I rather give to LGF than spend on some useless Chinese made rubbish.
Good for you! I'd do it, but I have grown children who still expect their stockings filled for Christmas. It could get ugly.
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:06:07am |
#166 redstaterneck - Hey {Red} - I noticed that, starting with your comment, the "reply" and "quote" functions don't appear anymore!
How are ya doing?
And the first time I tried posting the above message, I was told that I was not logged in - again!
But I noticed on 3 woods comment #181 that the reply and quote functions are back!
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Muadib Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:06:22am |
Excellent. A new and more powerful server to help us pound on the Obama administration. Marxism should never get a moment of rest.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:06:31am |
re: #184 Ojoe
House prices will take a similar fall IMHO
They already have in those areas where they rose to astronomical heights.
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:06:45am |
Okay, the halo-emitters seem stable...
Glad you made it in, RealWest. I know my DTs were fierce!
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:06:53am |
Things are slowly getting better, as I discover the little differences in the new server. Hang in there.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:07:14am |
First off, thanks to all of you who responded to my earlier post. I wasn't ignoring you, just kept getting thrown off
re: #91 DeafDog
He!
re: #93 lawhawk
He may not want to cut funding, but the Mullahs may have a different idea if wide spread rioting starts to occur because of cuts to their freebies.
re: #172 Pyrocles
We can only hope he gets replaced by someone who is a bit more moderate.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:08:09am |
re: #189 vxbush
Okay, the halo-emitters seem stable...
Glad you made it in, RealWest. I know my DTs were fierce!
Chocolate is a good substitute.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:08:19am |
re: #182 Spare O'Lake
PA: Hebron tensions could erupt into all-out confrontation
Ehud "The Goniff" Olmert will probably not hesitate to unleash the IDF on the settlers.
The sooner Israelis elect a new government the better - and hopefully one who will move to formally annex the West Bank and Gaza unless the PA and Hamas can get their act together in short order.
The question the article doesn't answer is: What did the Arabs do to warrant a settler response? As a rule, when there are Arab-Israeli clashes, the cause is some form of violent Arab Jew-hatred.
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:08:22am |
re: #190 Charles
Things are slowly getting better, as I discover the little differences in the new server. Hang in there.
Good luck!
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:08:56am |
re: #194 redstateredneck
Chocolate is a good substitute.
True, but it only minimizes the shaking. It doesn't eliminate them completely.
Okay, gotta go work on the boss's machine. Gotta keep him happy.
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aggieann Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:09:13am |
re: #63 MikeAlv77
Know this was on a previous thread but saw this for myself.. Went to a local gun shop on the way home last night to get some ammo. They had plenty but what was interesting was that in the 10 minutes I was there is that they sold 2 handguns... Guy told me Obama getting elected is the best thing for his business.. People are buying guns like crazy he told me!
Mr. Aggie is a licensed firearms dealer, and last night he ordered a couple of guns off of a manufacturer's website. From the time he filled in the forms to the time he completed his order, the number of that particular weapon that was in stock dropped by half, from 60 something to 30 something.
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:09:34am |
Before too long, British bookies will be taking bets on which early-morning crisis call Barack Obama will take first. Experts are now warning that the president-elect is facing a veritable "hornet's nest" in the Middle East, led by the prospect that Iran will have a nuclear bomb within a year.
And meanwhile:
US should expect a nuclear or biological terrorist attack by 2013, report says
The margin of safety in America is "shrinking, not growing", the bipartisan report said, and it urged the US to "move with a sense of urgency" to improve security.The report, which will be published on Wednesday, cites US ally Pakistan as a hotspot for danger: "Were one to map terrorism and weapons of mass destruction today, all roads would intersect in Pakistan."
Pakistan, you say?
India Names Mumbai Mastermind
India has accused a senior leader of the Pakistani militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba of orchestrating last week's terror attacks that killed at least 172 people here, and demanded the Pakistani government turn him over and take action against the group.
Just two days before hitting the city, the group of 10 terrorists who ravaged India's financial capital communicated with Yusuf Muzammil and four other Lashkar leaders via a satellite phone that they left behind on a fishing trawler they hijacked to get to Mumbai, a senior Mumbai police official told The Wall Street Journal. The entire group also underwent rigorous training in a Lashkar-e-Taiba camp in Pakistani-controlled Kashmir, the official said.
What to do, what to do:
Rice Calls on Pakistan to Help in Mumbai Terror Investigation
Indian and U.S. officials have blamed the three-day assault on militant groups based in Pakistan.Rice said the United States expects all "responsible governments" to help with the investigation and "Pakistan has a special responsibility to do so and to do so transparently, urgently and fully.
Rather blunt talk for Bush's diplomatrix.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:09:49am |
re: #190 Charles
Things are slowly getting better, as I discover the little differences in the new server. Hang in there.
Thanks. It seems to be little things here and there.
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Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:10:04am |
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Russkilitlover Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:10:05am |
re: #184 Ojoe
House prices will take a similar fall IMHO
They already have. I wouldn't expect prices to go into any more of a free fall, simply because homes have mortgages - maybe more foreclosure fallout. Rents are climbing and existing foreclosures are slooowwwly being absorbed. Combined with the utter stop in new home building, this is good for stabilization of the housing market. Demand should begin to increase again in late '09. My $.02.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:11:11am |
I've just found all these Life pics on Google images. This one makes you feel blessed when you get to feeling sorry for yourself and the current economy.
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:12:17am |
re: #181 3 wood
Whiplash Obama strikes. Never mind on those windfall profits taxes.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:12:34am |
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Flying Dutchman Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:13:10am |
re: #185 redstateredneck
Good for you! I'd do it, but I have grown children who still expect their stockings filled for Christmas. It could get ugly.
I agree with the children wishes.
And thanks' for reminding us/me there is a tip jar that needs to get filled with some bucks from time to time !
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:13:20am |
re: #206 lawhawk
Whiplash Obama strikes. Never mind on those windfall profits taxes.
Emily Littela policy.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:13:30am |
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Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:14:01am |
re: #205 redstateredneck
I've just found all these Life pics on Google images. This one makes you feel blessed when you get to feeling sorry for yourself and the current economy.
I have a modern equivalent to that pic somewhere in a box, from when I packed up the family and drove down the Alcan in 1988. Our engine blew out in Williams Lake, and that chewed up every bit of savings we had and we were both unemployed.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:14:09am |
Good night Lizards. See you on the over night thread.
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:14:23am |
re: #199 Kenneth
It's more blunt than that (re: Mumbai terror and US response). According to the Times of India, the US is suggesting that India should have a free reign to go after those responsible:
The United States has set the stage for punitive internationally-backed strikes by India against terrorist camps in Pakistan, if Islamabad does not act first to dismantle them, by rejecting President Zardari’s alibi that non-state actors were responsible for the last week’s carnage in Mumbai.The game-changer, outlined by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, among others, robs Islamabad of the fig leaf that Zardari used in his interview on Larry King Live that ''stateless actors'' are holding the whole world hostage and Pakistan was not to blame. Rice said in effect that the excuse does not absolve Pakistan responsibility for terrorist acts that originate from its territory,“ Rice said.
Although US officials have not outright approved immediate punitive Indian strikes against terrorist targets in Pakistan, it is clear Rice has bought time for Islamabad to prove its bonafides. Pakistan has a ''special responsibility'' and needs to act ''urgently'' she said, even as India has indicated it will wait for a Pakistani response to its demands before any punitive action.
In Washington, experts pressed the administration to expand the scope of punitive strikes to an international level to avoid making it an India-Pakistan issue, particularly since the death toll included citizens of ten countries.
''Rather than simply begging the Indians to show restraint, a better option could be to internationalise the response. Have the international community declare that parts of Pakistan have become ungovernable and a menace to international security,'' Robert Kagan, an influential analyst with the Carnegie Endowment, said.
Given that Pakistan has steadfastly refused to control the frontier provinces, let alone crack down on the madrassas, this is going to come to a head real quick.
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Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:14:56am |
Commenting using the quote function is getting truncated.
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Desert Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:15:19am |
re: #206 lawhawk
Whiplash Obama strikes. Never mind on those windfall profits taxes.
If he's smart, he'll drop MOST of his pre-election pandering platform
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Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:15:42am |
New comments button is KIA, have to either post or refresh to see new posts
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gmsc Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:15:51am |
United Auto Workers: Union Will Restart Contract Talks With Big 3 Car Manufacturers
UAW to Restart Contract Talks, End Jobs Bank
A United Auto Workers official says the union has agreed to restart contract talks with the Detroit Three automakers and delay their payments into a union-run health care trust.
The official, who asked not to be identified because the details had not been publicly announced, also said the union will take steps to eliminate the jobs bank in which laid-off workers are paid most of their salaries.
The CEOs of all three automakers are heading to Washington for congressional hearings this week on their request for a total of $34 billion in government loans to help them weather a recession and the worst auto sales climate in 26 years.
Congressional leaders have demanded business plans from all three that include a reduction in labor costs so Detroit is more competitive with foreign automakers with U.S. factories.
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Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:15:55am |
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:17:00am |
re: #182 Spare O'Lake
Jewish settlers in Hebron? Are you kidding me?
Jews have had a presence in Hebron since before Israel was even established. Jewish ties to the city go back to the construction of the Cave of Machpellah where the patriarchs and matriarchs are buried.
It's just another attempt to rewrite history and sanitize it of a Jewish presence.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:17:22am |
re: #216 Desert Dog
If he's smart, he'll drop MOST of his pre-election pandering platform
I hope he drops any anti-global warming initiatives as well.
/There are some good things that can come of it.
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:17:30am |
re: #191 redstateredneck
Charles is still tweaking? I BEG your pardon, but I don't think that's any of our business!
AND I HADDA LOG OUT AND LOG BACK IN AGAIN!
Hope this post makes it!
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Flying Dutchman Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:17:38am |
re: #215 Thanos
Commenting using the quote function is getting truncated.
Just worked fine for me, you may need to reload page
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Just_A_Grunt Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:17:58am |
Seems the new server and the Flock browser I use don't get along all the time. I had to try mulitple times to get the home page to load. But then again it could be because of traffic or something else but I am not having the problem with other sites.
Flock is a Firefox product BTW.
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:18:42am |
re: #179 Ojoe
Actually in the Dark Ages the Church was saving what was left of civilization.
That is somewhat true. The Church did become a repository for what remained of classical works. But the Church was not contribute much to science & philosophy. Mostly, the monks were just conservators. Ironically, it was the indians & muslims who continued to build on classical thinking, especially in mathematics & medicine.
BTW - have you ever read A Canticle for Leibowitz?
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Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:18:45am |
re: #205 redstateredneck
I've just found all these Life pics on Google images. This one makes you feel blessed when you get to feeling sorry for yourself and the current economy.
Let's try this again.
Somewhere in a box I have a 1988 equivalent to that photo. I quit my job, packed up the family and headed down the Alcan Highway. Our engine blew out due to the grades and the trailer we were towing, it chewed up every bit of our savings was chewed up to get repaired and down to Sacramento, where we were both unemployed. That first Christmas was a bit thin.
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Czarny_Smok Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:18:57am |
Testing - took forever to get in, was starting to go through withdrawal. Still having issues refreshing. Maybe some Raid will work on them there bugs!
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Just_A_Grunt Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:19:16am |
Crimminey Kept trying to post a response and kept getting the message to sign in. I signed in and out half a dozen times and finaly it let me back in.
I am posting htis using Firefox. Now I will go back to Flock and see what happens.
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:20:07am |
re: #218 gmsc
How the hell did the Big 3 bailout go from $25 Billion to $34 Billion in one week?!
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:20:38am |
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:21:07am |
re: #230 realwest
How the hell did the Big 3 bailout go from $25 Billion to $34 Billion in one week?!
GM asked for $18B instead of $9B.
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Flying Dutchman Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:21:51am |
re: #222 realwest
Charles is still tweaking? I BEG your pardon, but I don't think that's any of our business!
AND I HADDA LOG OUT AND LOG BACK IN AGAIN!
Hope this post makes it!
I'm logged in since over a week and haven't had trouble with any function except during the down time.
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bosforus Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:22:14am |
re: #190 Charles
Things are slowly getting better, as I discover the little differences in the new server. Hang in there.
Life is so unnerving for a servant who's not serving
He's not whole without a soul to wait upon
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:22:43am |
re: #202 Russkilitlover
They already have. I wouldn't expect prices to go into any more of a free fall, simply because homes have mortgages - maybe more foreclosure fallout. Rents are climbing and existing foreclosures are slooowwwly being absorbed. Combined with the utter stop in new home building, this is good for stabilization of the housing market. Demand should begin to increase again in late '09. My $.02.
re: #210 redstateredneck
I pulled mine off the market when the contract with the realtor ran out. I don't have to sell right now, so I'm going to wait it out. No way I'm going to give it away!
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:23:00am |
re: #230 realwest
How the hell did the Big 3 bailout go from $25 Billion to $34 Billion in one week?!
While the spigot is wide open, thirsty men will drink & drink.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:23:30am |
re: #210 redstateredneck
I don't know what that is! ! !
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:24:46am |
re: #236 Flying Dutchman
Well
I'm logged in since over a week and haven't had trouble with any function except during the down time.
isn't that special?! LOL! Read this thread; more people have had to log in and out and in and out than not!
What browser are y'all using?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:25:21am |
re: #235 Sharmuta
IE 7 at work (no other choice here).
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Just_A_Grunt Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:25:29am |
Great came back to Firefox because the comment I tried to post using Flock wouldn't post. I kept getting the spinning wheelie thingy and when I come over here to Firefox there is my comment which isn't showing up in Flock.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:25:34am |
re: #195 Dark_Falcon
The question the article doesn't answer is: What did the Arabs do to warrant a settler response? As a rule, when there are Arab-Israeli clashes, the cause is some form of violent Arab Jew-hatred.
We are dealing here with the religiously and historically significant ancient biblical Jewish city of Hebron.
There are a few hundred Jews living in Hebron who are trying to survive in the middle of close to two hundred thousand hostile, violent, anti-Semitic, hateful, Arabs. The Arabs regularly harass, beat and kill the Jews.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:25:40am |
Charles,
I'm having the oddest problem. The system keeps claiming I am logged out when I try to comment after a reload. Now, I know that according to the log in boxes up top, and at the bottom of the thread page, I am logged in when this occurs. Is this due to the IP addresses?
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:26:00am |
The quote feature is certainly making some funny postings!
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WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:26:24am |
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bloodnok Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:26:41am |
I'm on IE6 at work and have been able to get in and out all morning.
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:26:58am |
re: #242 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - the Democrats have been involved since the beginning - remember they still control BOTH houses of Congress.
And it looks like Franken is gonna steal Minn. senate seat, too!
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:27:06am |
re: #246 Just_A_Grunt
Great came back to Firefox because the comment I tried to post using Flock wouldn't post. I kept getting the spinning wheelie thingy and when I come over here to Firefox there is my comment which isn't showing up in Flock.
Sounds to me like you're flocked.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:27:24am |
Good Afternoon Lizards..
I've seen more spinning wheels here this morning than the pits of the Indy 500...
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:27:25am |
re: #239 redstateredneck
re: #210 redstateredneck
I pulled mine off the market when the contract with the realtor ran out. I don't have to sell right now, so I'm going to wait it out. No way I'm going to give it away!
I'm hoping that I can keep up with the mortgage on my rental property and do the same. I hadn't planned on being a landlord, but the bottom fell out right as I went to sell the old place.
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Russkilitlover Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:27:38am |
re: #239 redstateredneck
I pulled mine off the market when the contract with the realtor ran out. I don't have to sell right now, so I'm going to wait it out. No way I'm going to give it away!
A good sign of full housing stabilization will the merger/acquisition activity among the top home builders. This hasn't happened yet but I would expect that it must. In a recovering housing market, there just won't be room enough for ALL of the big players of the past 10 years.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:28:16am |
re: #250 Son of the Black Dog
Firefox 3.0.4
Got that at home. Firefox isn't bad, but it could be much better, IMHO. One thing I do wish that Firefox had that IE does, is the cookie handling. I love how you can set up IE to accept/decline cookies with a popup box for every site you go to. With Firefox, it's all cookies or no cookies.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:28:17am |
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kcjd Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:28:18am |
Hey all! I finally made it in through the window last night...Yeah!
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:29:14am |
re: #249 Honorary Yooper
Ask the Flying Dutchman at #236 how he's doing it!
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Peacekeeper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:30:37am |
How about a nice evolution thread Charles? That'll work the kinks out.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:30:52am |
re: #262 kcjd
Hey all! I finally made it in through the window last night...Yeah!
Welcome! what's up today?
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:32:28am |
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:32:45am |
re: #266 Peacekeeper
How about a nice evolution thread Charles? That'll work the kinks out.
LOL
An ID thread is natures way of thinning the flock..
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:32:50am |
re: #263 Sharmuta
It's always IE.
I checked the html tags in the preview on another one, and I don't think the loss of everything past the link has anything to do with open html tags. They all appeared closed to me.
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:33:45am |
re: #271 turn
Not here.
Must refresh the page to see new comments or make a post it would seem, button no workee
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:34:53am |
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Flying Dutchman Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:36:09am |
re: #244 realwest
Well
isn't that special?! LOL! Read this thread; more people have had to log in and out and in and out than not!
What browser are y'all using?
Safari 3.1.2 on... Mac OS X 10.5.5 (of course... never have problems with Macs ;-)
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:37:12am |
re: #60 Deafdog
Stupid factoid - Before Office Space, Swingline did not even MAKE red staplers. The props dept just painted one for the movie.
I just want my stapler
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gop_patriot Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:37:31am |
re: #274 turn
Must refresh the page to see new comments or make a post it would seem, button no workee
Working fine here, Firefox 2 on my old Mac. It's slower though, and so is the Preview button. Get the spinny wheel for a few seconds.
I'm just so glad LGF is back up, last night I got kicked off when I tried to refresh (or something, I can't remember exactly now) and all I could see was a white page with one ad at the top, the Logo, and the search feature (which worked btw, wierd). Argh.
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Flying Dutchman Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:37:40am |
re: #275 Honorary Yooper
A ha! Got it. Found the problem in the links that don't show up. In the tag there is an item called "target=blank". I removed it from all the html tags, and got the link to show up.
"target=blank" means that the link must open in a new browser window
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:38:22am |
Well since this IS an open thread, I'm pleased to tell y'all that Best Buy actually came through for me!
After some, ah, discussion, they're giving me full credit for the purchase price of this computer (which has had 3 new motherboards and one new hard drive fail to work when installed by the Geek Squad and is 20 months old).
So they are delivering to me a brand new HP - Pavilion Desktop with Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor E5200, 500 gig HD, 4 Gig RAM, CD and DVD and 2.5 hz processor! Will install and do data transfer for me!
Oh and download new drivers for my 3-1 printer, copier and fax machine cause the only negative in this deal is I gotta go from XP to VISTA.
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:38:23am |
re: #276 Flying Dutchman
Safari 3.1.2 on... Mac OS X 10.5.5 (of course... never have problems with Macs ;-)
-shrug-
WinXP Pro
Firefox 3.0
tis fine with me
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:39:15am |
re: #280 MandyManners
FUCKING A! I'M IN.
LOL
Try having your first cup of coffee without reading LGF.. It's not a pretty sight.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:39:18am |
I think we're getting to the root of the problem.
Little server admin joke there.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:39:52am |
re: #269 realwest
Cookies? How about pie?!
Cookies are little packets of information placed on your computer by other websites. Some of them can allow viruses and spyware in so I allow only those cookies (such as LGF's) on my computer from sites I trust.
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gop_patriot Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:40:42am |
I'm going to be brave, leave this page, and try to upload a new avatar...
/Send out a search party if I don't come back soon. LOL
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:40:45am |
re: #281 Flying Dutchman
"target=blank" means that the link must open in a new browser window
Yes, but one of them has quotes, and the other does not. It is the one without quotes causing the problems with the links.
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:40:46am |
re: #284 realwest
Well since this IS an open thread, I'm pleased to tell y'all that Best Buy actually came through for me!
After some, ah, discussion, they're giving me full credit for the purchase price of this computer (which has had 3 new motherboards and one new hard drive fail to work when installed by the Geek Squad and is 20 months old).
So they are delivering to me a brand new HP - Pavilion Desktop with Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor E5200, 500 gig HD, 4 Gig RAM, CD and DVD and 2.5 hz processor! Will install and do data transfer for me!
Oh and download new drivers for my 3-1 printer, copier and fax machine cause the only negative in this deal is I gotta go from XP to VISTA.
Congratulations, hip hip hooray! :)
Sweet on the fact its a brand new machine, too. This time it will be obsolete in 6 months instead of 2 years, though.
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eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:41:05am |
I seem to be having better luck with Firefox this morning than Safari on Windows XP.
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GordonShumway Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:41:36am |
re: #257 HoosierHoops
Good Afternoon Lizards..
I've seen more spinning wheels here this morning than the pits of the Indy 500...
Nooo. Not that thread again. Will it always be looming in the background. Only a warped person would play that card.
/end drive by
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:41:36am |
re: #299 eschew_obfuscation
I seem to be having better luck with Firefox this morning than Safari on Windows XP.
I found just the opposite.
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:42:03am |
re: #290 Charles
I think we're getting to the root of the problem.
Little server admin joke there.
Just hope it doesn't come to byte you in the ass!
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Spenser (with an S) Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:42:16am |
Now that more are able to log on, I'm still stuck on one response to the moron at my church's site. What is he talking about below? Just the fact that we sold Israel some bombs at one time or did we sell them to Syria a long time ago or what? These people make my brain and my heart hurt.
Those bombs that fell over Lebannon two and a half years ago were made in America and paid for by America. I CAN object to that. I CAN criticize that because it is my home and my people who are perpetrating the injustice... so I do.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:43:32am |
re: #296 gop_patriot
I'm going to be brave, leave this page, and try to upload a new avatar...
/Send out a search party if I don't come back soon. LOL
Good luck.
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:44:04am |
re: #305 Spenser (with an S)
Now that more are able to log on, I'm still stuck on one response to the moron at my church's site. What is he talking about below? Just the fact that we sold Israel some bombs at one time or did we sell them to Syria a long time ago or what? These people make my brain and my heart hurt.
I don't get stuff like that. "Blame Guns for shootings, not the people doing the shooting!"
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WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:44:08am |
re: #303 Hengineer
Wow, that joke was Terabull.
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:44:11am |
re: #279 gop_patriot
I hadn't tried to load LGF since last Wed, tried to load this morning in great anticipation ... nothing. Man was I disappointed.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:44:12am |
re: #284 realwest
Well since this IS an open thread, I'm pleased to tell y'all that Best Buy actually came through for me!
After some, ah, discussion, they're giving me full credit for the purchase price of this computer (which has had 3 new motherboards and one new hard drive fail to work when installed by the Geek Squad and is 20 months old).
So they are delivering to me a brand new HP - Pavilion Desktop with Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor E5200, 500 gig HD, 4 Gig RAM, CD and DVD and 2.5 hz processor! Will install and do data transfer for me!
Oh and download new drivers for my 3-1 printer, copier and fax machine cause the only negative in this deal is I gotta go from XP to VISTA.
You're going to love Vista...Do the moving background Destop feature.. My buddy has gentle rain failing on a street as his desktop.
The graphics rock...
I remember when we were using windows 2000 and XP came out and everybody said it Sucked.. Now the same people refuse to upgrade cause XP is now the god Operating System.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:45:16am |
... testing to see if I'm "logged in"
stupid software!
/nothing person, Charles ... th' hardware guy's just bitching
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Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:45:16am |
A MODERN PARABLE . . .
A Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (Ford) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River . Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.
On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.
The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.
Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing.
Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.
They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.
Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents, and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager.
They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the 'Rowing Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners, and free pens for the rower.. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes, and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.
The next year the Japanese won by two miles.
Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India
The End.
Here's something else to think about:
Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US , claiming they can't make money paying American wages.
TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US. The last quarter's results:
TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses.
Ford folks are still scratching their heads.
---
If this weren't true it might be funny.
Anyone with a GM Parable?
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:45:47am |
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Czarny_Smok Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:45:56am |
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Raven1 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:45:59am |
With Charles's new web server installed, I think it would be appropriate to change our power source from mammals, (hamsters) to a representative from the lizard kingdom. I hereby nominate the Hispaniolan Gracile Anole for the job. A small reptile found in Bimini, they are described as beautiful, fast moving, and restless.
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wee fury Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:46:03am |
I'm so relieved to find out that the LGF login, posting, and loading problems are not my fault.
Thanks, Charles!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:46:30am |
re: #313 pre-Boomer Marine brat
... testing to see if I'm "logged in"
stupid software!/nothing person, Charles ... th' hardware guy's just bitching
PIMF ... "nothing personal"
/stupid hardware guy!
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:47:14am |
I just tried posting a comment a few minutes ago. I hit "post this comment" - and it said " You must be logged in to post a comment." I scrolled to the top and I WAS logged in. So I logged out - and then logged back in and was able to post a comment in the top links - so now I'm testing comments again.
Testing...
Just an FYI.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:47:20am |
re: #275 Honorary Yooper
What are you trying to link to?
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debutaunt Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:47:44am |
re: #3 Occasional Reader
Web server
Note the imperialistic master-slave dialectic.
LIBERATE THE "SERVER"!
What in Hegel happened?
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Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:49:02am |
I got no buttons, I got no avatars, I got nothing man, nothing
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beblebrox Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:49:25am |
re: #225 unreconstructed rebel
That is somewhat true. The Church did become a repository for what remained of classical works. But the Church was not contribute much to science & philosophy. Mostly, the monks were just conservators. Ironically, it was the indians & muslims who continued to build on classical thinking, especially in mathematics & medicine.
BTW - have you ever read A Canticle for Leibowitz?
I loved that book. I am also reminded of this:
“Let us return to what was and ever should be the office of this Abbey: the preservation of knowledgeable. preservation I say, not search for; because there is no progress in the history of knowledge, merely a continuous and sublime recapitulation.”
Said by “Venerable Jorge” in the film “The Name of the Rose” - I [...]
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:49:41am |
re: #293 Honorary Yooper
I KNOW that - I was just trying to make a joke and if the link had worked you'd a known that!
Gah.
Tried to post this a couple of minutes ago but it wouldn't post!
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:50:05am |
re: #314 Bobibutu
The difference is the union work rules. Toyota does not have them, so they are able to be productive. Ford has to follow absurd rules that prevent them from producing effectively. That it agreed to those rules, is of course, Ford's fault. They need to demand concessions from the unions.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:50:30am |
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:50:32am |
re: #323 Bubblehead II
What are you trying to link to?
It's a bug with the links. When you use the quote function, the quote marks get left off the target="_blank" tag, causing the rest of the text beyond the tag not to show up in the comment.
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:51:01am |
re: #327 beblebrox
I thought the Canticle for Leibowitz a little boring and outdated.
/personal opinion.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:51:03am |
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:51:15am |
kre: #325 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I got no buttons, I got no avatars, I got nothing man, nothing
Did you remember to pay your LFG bill this month?
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:51:16am |
re: #326 hermit
excellent choice, Mandy - thanks!
and you can sing, "and I know, I know, I know, I know, I know..."while you wait for your comment to load.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:51:37am |
re: #314 Bobibutu
Try again. It's the anchors of the UAW, CAFE, and MSM that cause the problems.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:52:25am |
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:52:49am |
re: #315 turn
Hey you fixed the new comments button here on IE.
You spoke too soon turn. You may have been impatient, it may just be working real slooow. Testing ...
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Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:53:01am |
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Ya gotta take a moment and check this out - short read. Insight into Ayers and our very young children.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:53:06am |
re: #330 Dark_Falcon
The difference is the union work rules. Toyota does not have them, so they are able to be productive. Ford has to follow absurd rules that prevent them from producing effectively. That it agreed to those rules, is of course, Ford's fault. They need to demand concessions from the unions.
All the car plants in the south: Toyota, Mercedes, Nissan are non union. Makes a huge difference and are still good paying jobs.
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gmsc Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:53:09am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:53:29am |
re: #325 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I got no buttons, I got no avatars, I got nothing man, nothing
What was that "THUD" I heard?
OMGAWD, Kragar!
What happened to your ... uh ... "tripod" stance?!
Sheesh, man, you really ARE in a bad way.
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:53:41am |
re: #330 Dark_Falcon
The difference is the union work rules. Toyota does not have them, so they are able to be productive. Ford has to follow absurd rules that prevent them from producing effectively. That it agreed to those rules, is of course, Ford's fault. They need to demand concessions from the unions.
Not entirely Ford's fault, its also our political structure's fault as well for allowing the Union with more power than any of the companies combined.
After all the corporations are eeevil, while the big union conglamorate is good, noble, and just.
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:54:02am |
re: #340 realwest
Hey Mandy - you might just love this one:
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
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bloodnok Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:54:16am |
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:54:51am |
re: #345 redstateredneck
All the car plants in the south: Toyota, Mercedes, Nissan are non union. Makes a huge difference and are still good paying jobs.
Good paying jpb compared to a great paying lounge lounge?
No comparison.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:55:03am |
re: #330 Dark_Falcon
The difference is the union work rules. Toyota does not have them, so they are able to be productive. Ford has to follow absurd rules that prevent them from producing effectively. That it agreed to those rules, is of course, Ford's fault. They need to demand concessions from the unions.
The Unions have had the Big 3 over a barrel for some time now. Strikes hurt the companies much worse than the unions, and the companies will do almost anything to avoid one. Having seen the good that the unions have done in their early history, it pains me to see them as the political bullies they have become.
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:56:11am |
re: #352 CyanSnowHawk
The Unions have had the Big 3 over a barrel for some time now. Strikes hurt the companies much worse than the unions, and the companies will do almost anything to avoid one. Having seen the good that the unions have done in their early history, it pains me to see them as the political bullies they have become.
Let alone the Government unions which don't protect the workers anymore. MEBA (Marine Engineer's Beneficial Association) doesn't really work hard for us Civilian Mariners working for MSC, they just claim they do and cover their own ass.
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beblebrox Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:56:12am |
re: #334 Hengineer
I thought the Canticle for Leibowitz a little boring and outdated.
/personal opinion.
I will admit it was somewhat formulaic, but i found it good read for in front of the fire on a cruddy day. Personally I have always been a fan of Connie Willis' stories about the History Department of Oxford University in 2057. The Doomsday Book was a very moving story.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:56:45am |
re: #330 Dark_Falcon
The difference is the union work rules. Toyota does not have them, so they are able to be productive. Ford has to follow absurd rules that prevent them from producing effectively. That it agreed to those rules, is of course, Ford's fault. They need to demand concessions from the unions.
True - Ford's fault - and the entire US auto industries - killed and ate their Golden Goose. Greed, arrogance and ignorance from the bottom to the top.
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Son of the Black Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:57:15am |
re: #330 Dark_Falcon
The difference is the union work rules. Toyota does not have them, so they are able to be productive. Ford has to follow absurd rules that prevent them from producing effectively. That it agreed to those rules, is of course, Ford's fault. They need to demand concessions from the unions.
The overly restrictive work rules, like the absurdly high pay and benefit packages for semi-skilled labor, are a product of a monopoly union (UAW) being able to target strikes at the automakers one at a time (i.e., give in or see your business go the GM and Chrysler). If you think American business is in trouble now, watch what happens if (when) the unions get cardcheck. Gonna be BIG cost-push inflation.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:58:07am |
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gop_patriot Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:58:44am |
Testing a Christmas avatar...
/wow, December already. lol
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 10:59:38am |
re: #355 Hengineer
Let alone the Government unions which don't protect the workers anymore. MEBA (Marine Engineer's Beneficial Association) doesn't really work hard for us Civilian Mariners working for MSC, they just claim they do and cover their own ass.
It's a pretty good indicator that a union has grown too big when they have to use PR people to tell the workers how well they are representing them.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:00:06am |
Overpaid semi-skilled labor with a sense of invincible entitlement? Sounds like gov't already.
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:00:58am |
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:00:58am |
re: #359 Son of the Black Dog
The overly restrictive work rules, like the absurdly high pay and benefit packages for semi-skilled labor, are a product of a monopoly union (UAW) being able to target strikes at the automakers one at a time (i.e., give in or see your business go the GM and Chrysler). If you think American business is in trouble now, watch what happens if (when) the unions get cardcheck. Gonna be BIG cost-push inflation.
If they get that, American enterprise is doomed.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:01:50am |
re: #352 CyanSnowHawk
The Unions have had the Big 3 over a barrel for some time now. Strikes hurt the companies much worse than the unions, and the companies will do almost anything to avoid one. Having seen the good that the unions have done in their early history, it pains me to see them as the political bullies they have become.
Well, we'll see how the unions react. I'm not going to make a prediction here. I hope a good solution may be found though. And it pains me as well to see what American unions have become.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:01:51am |
re: #339 Honorary Yooper
Try again. It's the anchors of the UAW, CAFE, and MSM that cause the problems.
Parables aren't perfect and your point is well taken.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:01:59am |
re: #366 CyanSnowHawk
If they get that, American enterprise is doomed.
If you can't beat em, join em?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:02:08am |
re: #366 CyanSnowHawk
If they get that, American enterprise is doomed.
Or anyone else who wants to build a factory here.
/Although watching Toyota deal with UAW rules would make me laugh my ass off.
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:03:33am |
And since some of us are speaking of unions, gotta paraphrase the great George Carlin (RIP) here: "The main objective of a union executive is to avoid becoming a member of the working class."
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hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:03:44am |
re: #360 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Don't mind her. She's just Søren grumpy.
And what, pray tell, could be the Origen of this bad mood?
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Ben Hur Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:04:42am |
German Soldiers Deemed 'Too Fat to Fight'
First they were accused of not wanting to fight. Then they were blamed for failing in their main mission to train the Afghan police.
Now Germany’s battered military reputation has received a further humiliating blow. According to official reports, the 3,500 troops in northern Afghanistan drink too much and are too fat to fight.
A German parliamentary report has revealed that in 2007 German forces in Afghanistan consumed about 1.7 million pints of beer and 90,000 bottles of wine. During the first six months of this year 896,000 pints of beer were shipped to German forces in Afghanistan. British and U.S. bases in the country enforce a strict ban on alcohol.
The physical condition of the soldiers was already in question after a German armed forces report found that 40 percent of its soldiers aged 18-29 were overweight, compared to 35 percent of the civilian population of the same age.
The report, published in March, concluded that the Bundeswehr lived on beer and sausages while shunning fruit and vegetables. It said that an overdeveloped bureaucracy was also contributing to a “passive lifestyle” on the part of the soldiers.
Because those ugly ignorant and fat Americans don't know how to conduct themselves in a culturally sensitive fashion.
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notutopia Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:05:20am |
Hey...Lizards.
Keep the computer faith Charles. Slow deep breaths in and out...
Now we know what Realwest has been putting up with...
Empathy
ugh
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:05:26am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:05:34am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:06:28am |
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Spenser (with an S) Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:07:11am |
Thanks to all those helping me out with this response I'm posting the the fake-Christian idiot;
Micah, with all due respect, you don't seem to have a problem offering constructive criticism to any and all groups, just one. Aren't you worried that your Jewish friends might visit this site and read Rana's letter to Dick Cheney or read one of the posts by Friends of Sabeel? You say you wouldn't know what to say to anyone in the Arab world? Could you tell the truth to someone so eaten up by hate that they were proud that their son was enlisting in Jihad? Most of us have not been in most people's shoes around the world but does that mean we have nothing to say to them? Don't we have the Truth and the ability to discern? Isn't that enough to sometimes speak the hard truths to the world?
I presume you've also never been a diplomat or an IDF soldier or worked in the State Dept. or been an Israeli settler running for a bunker because another rocket is coming over the hill but you seem to know how you feel about some of their difficult positions and how they've come at them.
You also seem to not grant a whit's difference between someone targeting non-combatants and someone trying to avoid civilian casualties and sometimes failing. I would think that is a rather simple moral equation, but some here have accused me of being too black and white.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:07:35am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:07:51am |
re: #362 redstateredneck
Hey {red} I did, but Charles has fixed most of the bugs it seems, so I didn't get to say it that much!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:08:05am |
re: #375 hermit
And what, pray tell, could be the Origen of this bad mood?
Irrational regret of lost childhood -- wants to go outside and platomuch for her own good.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:10:18am |
I think some of the problems are related to DNS; the IP address of the server changed, and it can take some time for that to get around the net.
But it's definitely improving now.
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Son of the Black Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:10:48am |
re: #366 CyanSnowHawk
If they get that, American enterprise is doomed.
Yes, I think a large part of our economy is doomed, esp. consumers and taxpayers. Big increases in prices because of union induced cost increases, higher electric and other fuel bills because of the Great Global Warming Scam, higher taxes to support bloated bureaucracies at all levels of government, and increased transfer payments to the non-productive members of society. Yes, we're screwed, and it will take several generations to recover, if America ever recovers.
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debutaunt Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:10:49am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:11:00am |
Well shoot - just as Charles works his magic, I gotta go eat lunch!
Hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
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notutopia Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:11:01am |
re: #112 wrenchwench
Geeks...
Can't live with em and can't live without em...
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hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:11:18am |
re: #388 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Irrational regret of lost childhood -- wants to go outside and platomuch for her own good.
It's so hard when every says, "Yuan to come out & play?"
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saberry0530 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:12:20am |
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:13:03am |
re: #390 bosforus
No Moore puns, please!
But everyone is doing it. Do you want me to stop and feel Descartes'd?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:13:52am |
re: #380 MandyManners
The little wheel, it Spinoza round.
Don't know what to make of this thread -- is it Buber something more high-falutin?
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:14:04am |
re: #389 Charles
I think some of the problems are related to DNS; the IP address of the server changed, and it can take some time for that to get around the net.
But it's definitely improving now.
It's a Zionist plot, I bet.
/
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bosforus Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:14:20am |
re: #397 Creeping Eruption
But everyone is doing it. Do you want me to stop and feel Descartes'd?
It's just that I Kant really compete since I haven't read the Immanuel.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:14:47am |
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:15:52am |
I haven't heard this theory raised before, but HRC's lack of any real diplomatic experience has me wondering...Anyone think that there was a pre-elevtion deal between BHO and HRC that if Obama won he would give Clinton SecState?
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beblebrox Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:16:00am |
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Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:16:53am |
I came back in to the "no css" version.
Charles there's a setting for default resouces allowed in *ix systems, make sure they have whatever uname your app runs under set to higher ulimit than default.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:18:27am |
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:18:59am |
re: #377 Ben Hur
On the plus side, in their current state they're unlikely to overrun Poland any time soon.
Also: THANK GOD I can finally get into LGF. Or Thank Stinky.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:19:22am |
re: #377 Ben Hur
And then they have the audacity to complain about our problems with obesity? Hypocrisy, thy home is in Europe!
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:19:54am |
We'll have to negotiate an end to this current pun war, or at least Hegel over the details of it.
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Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:20:06am |
re: #410 Dark_Falcon
And then they have the audacity to complain about our problems with obesity? Hypocrisy, thy home is in Europe!
Huns too fat to fight? What's the world coming to?
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:20:09am |
re: #405 Sharmuta
Now that's just taking it to a new Lao.
I hope Charles won't take too much longer to re-Orient the system.
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hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:20:09am |
re: #405 Sharmuta
Now that's just taking it to a new Lao.
Climbing the highest Montaigne, produces the farthest falls...
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NomadOfNorad Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:20:28am |
re: #26 Sharmuta
Does this mean we can withstand a Drudgelanche now?
Tried to upding this one, and the little twirly-thingy on that post is staying there forever. Anyone else having that problem?
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:20:30am |
re: #410 Dark_Falcon
And then they have the audacity to complain about our problems with obesity?
Well, we do have a problem with obesity. No doubt about it.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:20:36am |
re: #405 Sharmuta
Now that's just taking it to a new Lao.
*sniff*
*sniff*
... something stinky in here
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:20:59am |
Ah yes. "KeepAlive" has to be set to Off in httpd.conf.
Another tweak that should help a lot.
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Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:21:24am |
I would up the ulimit for whatever user is running ajax as well...
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:21:31am |
re: #383 Spenser (with an S)
Don't we have the Truth and the ability to discern?
Very few of my liberal friends get that.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:21:40am |
re: #417 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*sniff*
*sniff*
... something stinky in here
Like day old Bacon sitting on a greasy Plato
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:21:56am |
There are lots of little things to fix after a major move like this; thanks for your patience while we iron out the problems.
'Course the lizard army is going to be patient, Charles. This ain't Daily Kos or HuffPo.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:22:05am |
re: #409 Occasional Reader
On the plus side, in their current state they're unlikely to overrun Poland any time soon.
Also: THANK GOD I can finally get into LGF. Or Thank Stinky.
One of my favorite political comics showed two headlines.
Oct. 3, 1990 - Germany Reunites
Oct. 4, 1990 - Germany Invades Poland
| 425 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:22:13am |
KeepAlive was a biggie...
I think that may have solved the major part of the problem.
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hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:22:18am |
re: #413 Spare O'Lake
I hope Charles won't take too much longer to re-Orient the system.
So,...if you're dis-Oriented are you more prone to occidents?
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:22:23am |
A little tale completely unrelated to computer woes.
I had this tree standing dead, so I prepare to cut it for firewood. Cut the darn thing and Cazart! I've got a hanger.
Now boys and girls, this is where it gets dangerous. A hanger is the primary killer of loggers, 'cause you don't know exactly where it's going to fall, nor what else it'll bring down with it.
I spend the better part of an hour clearing a path so I can run to safety if all goes wrong, then hook up the 4 wheeler to give it a yank and bring it the rest of the way down. Hook up the chain, carefully look about to make sure that I can get clear, and rev up the Honda.
Down it comes with a rain of dead limbs and a mighty crash.
I gotta tell ya, that heat pump is looking better all the time. The buck stove might be cheaper, but you have to count the hidden costs.
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bosforus Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:22:33am |
re: #418 Charles
Ah yes. "KeepAlive" has to be set to Off in httpd.conf.
Another tweak that should help a lot.
Well duh!
/
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:22:37am |
re: #422 Creeping Eruption
Like day old Bacon sitting on a greasy Plato
So, crates of Bacon aren't enough for you, are they?
| 432 |
Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:23:06am |
re: #425 Charles
KeepAlive was a biggie...
I think that may have solved the major part of the problem.
Yes that did a LOT, full page refresh came back in normal or under time
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:23:08am |
re: #425 Charles
KeepAlive was a biggie...
I think that may have solved the major part of the problem.
Interesting how one "little" config tweak can be a real killer.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:23:09am |
re: #425 Charles
KeepAlive was a biggie...
I think that may have solved the major part of the problem.
If I knew what the heck you were talking about, I'd undoubtedly agree with you.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:23:13am |
re: #411 Occasional Reader
We'll have to negotiate an end to this current pun war, or at least Hegel over the details of it.
I'm a Freud so.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:23:56am |
re: #415 NomadOfNorad
Tried to upding this one, and the little twirly-thingy on that post is staying there forever. Anyone else having that problem?
Mandy mentioned it in her #380 -- it Spinozatime
| 437 |
WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:24:05am |
IE works better than Safari for me. Explain that one.
| 439 |
Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:24:13am |
Now, what other processes are running high or causing r/w waits? Any?
| 440 |
tfc3rid Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:24:15am |
Wow... With LGF down it reminded me the scene in Dodgeball after Patches O'Houlihan is killed when they keep asking Vince Vaughn's character 'What are we gonna do now, we're lost with out Patches...'
Man I miss it when LGF is down...
| 442 |
Son of the Black Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:24:30am |
re: #403 DeafDog
I haven't heard this theory raised before, but HRC's lack of any real diplomatic experience has me wondering...Anyone think that there was a pre-elevtion deal between BHO and HRC that if Obama won he would give Clinton SecState?
I've heard it raised, and I find it very plausible. HRC could have gone to the convention floor and made a bloody mess with the superdelegates, but she gave BHO a pass, in the name of "party unity".
| 443 |
Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:24:48am |
I actually made it in to the comments this time! I was starting to go into LGF withdrawal.
/withdrawal after only three hours?
//great work as usual, Charles
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Flying Dutchman Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:25:02am |
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debutaunt Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:25:09am |
re: #438 buzzsawmonkey
"Your post is very important to us. Please be patient while the page re-loads."
Gee, that sounded sincere.
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NomadOfNorad Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:25:16am |
re: #427 razorbacker
A little tale completely unrelated to computer woes.
I had this tree standing dead, so I prepare to cut it for firewood. Cut the darn thing and Cazart! I've got a hanger.
Now boys and girls, this is where it gets dangerous. A hanger is the primary killer of loggers, 'cause you don't know exactly where it's going to fall, nor what else it'll bring down with it.
I spend the better part of an hour clearing a path so I can run to safety if all goes wrong, then hook up the 4 wheeler to give it a yank and bring it the rest of the way down. Hook up the chain, carefully look about to make sure that I can get clear, and rev up the Honda.
Down it comes with a rain of dead limbs and a mighty crash.
I gotta tell ya, that heat pump is looking better all the time. The buck stove might be cheaper, but you have to count the hidden costs.
/A goose wanders into the room and cries AFLAC ! ! !
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:25:16am |
re: #406 bloodnok
Ah well, work calls. Back to the Grist Mill.
There once was a maid from Aberystwyth.
Who took corn to a mill to make grist with.
The miller's son, Jack,
Laid her flat on her back,
And united the parts that they pissed with.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:25:42am |
re: #435 MandyManners
I'm a Freud so.
I'd love to continue this, but I need to finish my Christmas Schopen... hau'er, I guess I could stay a little longer.
| 449 |
XMarine Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:25:49am |
Ahhh! Now things seem right with the LGF webpage.
Charles, you must be exhausted. Thank you for all your hard work.
| 450 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:26:07am |
| 451 |
Ben Hur Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:26:30am |
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
| 452 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:26:43am |
re: #442 Son of the Black Dog
I've heard it raised, and I find it very plausible. HRC could have gone to the convention floor and made a bloody mess with the superdelegates, but she gave BHO a pass, in the name of "party unity".
Unfortunately, we aren't going to get to hear the full stories till the 'tell all' books start coming out, which should be in about April (seriously, the honeymoon is gonna end quickly).
| 453 |
Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:26:52am |
re: #426 hermit
So,...if you're dis-Oriented are you more prone to occidents?
Then Himalaya down for the count!
| 454 |
NomadOfNorad Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:27:00am |
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debutaunt Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:27:01am |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:27:48am |
Yessir, that was the biggest hangup. Things are rocking now.
And the new server is a lot faster. The load average for the old one with our current traffic would have been in the 4-5 region -- with the new one it's showing 0.88.
W00t.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:27:58am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
Sorry, I couldn't even watch that.
| 458 |
bloodnok Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:27:59am |
| 460 |
tfc3rid Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:28:15am |
re: #456 Charles
A great big thank you to Charles for going above and beyond!
| 461 |
Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:28:40am |
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:28:55am |
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WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:29:15am |
re: #450 Occasional Reader
With some comments around here (including mine) during the election you would have thought it was the Opoxalypse. (O ● pox ● alypse)
I guess now we are hoping for an Opaxalypse. (O ● pax ● alypse)
| 464 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:29:17am |
re: #457 Occasional Reader
{Was that a Taoist pun about the sound of one hand clapping?}
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:29:24am |
re: #456 Charles
Yessir, that was the biggest hangup. Things are rocking now.
And the new server is a lot faster. The load average for the old one with our current traffic would have been in the 4-5 region -- with the new one it's showing 0.88.
W00t.
Which means more people can hog out on lgf now. I wonder how long until increased traffic pigs out this new server. ;)
| 466 |
debutaunt Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:29:25am |
| 467 |
XMarine Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:29:49am |
re: #455 debutaunt
Of course you are in Paine. That is just Common Sense.
I am getting out while the getting is good. Bye, Lizards ...
| 469 |
Creeping Eruption Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:30:02am |
re: #430 Occasional Reader
So, crates of Bacon aren't enough for you, are they?
I was raised Jewish. Miamo[m] would never allow it.
| 471 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:30:11am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
[second try, what the heck happened?]
I couldn't even watch that video after about 10 seconds.
I'd make a pretty lousy bullfighter, I can't bear to see animals in any kind of pain.
| 472 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:30:20am |
re: #447 unreconstructed rebel
There once was a maid from Aberystwyth.
Who took corn to a mill to make grist with.
The miller's son, Jack,
Laid her flat on her back,
And united the parts that they pissed with.
But was she natural with a Heraclitus.
| 474 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:30:46am |
re: #462 Occasional Reader
Is there a sharp sensation of cold on your Nie? Buhrrr!
That just burns my Bacon.
| 475 |
hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:30:51am |
Descartes and his buddies were drinking at the bar.
The bartender came over at last call and said, "Rene, would you like another?"
Descartes replied, "I think not," and disappeared.
| 476 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:31:06am |
re: #463 WrathofG-d
With some comments around here (including mine) during the election you would have thought it was the Opoxalypse. (O ● pox ● alypse)
I guess now we are hoping for an Opaxalypse. (O ● pax ● alypse)
And confusing your model airplane glue with your Chapstick can of course lead to Epoxy Lips.
| 477 |
razorbacker Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:31:18am |
re: #442 Son of the Black Dog
I've heard it raised, and I find it very plausible. HRC could have gone to the convention floor and made a bloody mess with the superdelegates, but she gave BHO a pass, in the name of "party unity".
Other than that little detail as to who is POTUS, can this thing have worked out any better for the Clintons?
Has Obama put forth anyone not beholden to the Cintons yet?
And the trial ballon about Billy Jeff being ambassador at large? Wowsers! Just think of all the foreign strange that he would have available.
Soft! What cackle wafts forth on the evening breeze? It sounds like Monty Burns. Egggssselent.
| 478 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:31:21am |
re: #438 buzzsawmonkey
"Your post is very important to us. Please be patient while the page re-loads."
Isn't this a multi-core server now, or something? Hamsters are still running the main server, but Charles has turtles in the post server.
| 479 |
WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:31:31am |
re: #474 MandyManners
always have to ham it up don't you. But I guess that i one of the reason I sty around here.
| 480 |
HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:31:44am |
re: #456 Charles
Yessir, that was the biggest hangup. Things are rocking now.
And the new server is a lot faster. The load average for the old one with our current traffic would have been in the 4-5 region -- with the new one it's showing 0.88.
W00t.
Yup page loads are now rocking...
| 481 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:31:50am |
Somethin' fishy going on here. Twice I've quoted/replied to Ben Hur, twice it's been zapped. WTF?
| 482 |
Creeping Eruption Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:32:10am |
re: #476 Occasional Reader
And confusing your model airplane glue with your Chapstick can of course lead to Epoxy Lips.
I know a couple of Ophthalmologists who have told me horror stories of people grabbing glue, etc. instead of their contact solution.
| 484 |
nyc redneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:32:12am |
re: #427 razorbacker
A little tale completely unrelated to computer woes.
I had this tree standing dead, so I prepare to cut it for firewood. Cut the darn thing and Cazart! I've got a hanger.
Now boys and girls, this is where it gets dangerous. A hanger is the primary killer of loggers, 'cause you don't know exactly where it's going to fall, nor what else it'll bring down with it.
I spend the better part of an hour clearing a path so I can run to safety if all goes wrong, then hook up the 4 wheeler to give it a yank and bring it the rest of the way down. Hook up the chain, carefully look about to make sure that I can get clear, and rev up the Honda.
Down it comes with a rain of dead limbs and a mighty crash.
I gotta tell ya, that heat pump is looking better all the time. The buck stove might be cheaper, but you have to count the hidden costs.
i heard on the radio this morning that sale of wood stoves is way up. i'm thinking that means wood chopping injuries are going to go up too. until people know what they are doing.
my husband split so many stumps w/ an awl and a sledge hammer until we got a log splitter a few yrs. ago. that is something everyone needs. it's incredible to see perfect stove size logs drop to the ground and know there won't be sore shoulders the next day.
wood heat is a wonderful backup plan. and it's free or cheap until we get the "smoke tax" add on.
| 485 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:32:13am |
OK - let's see what this thing can do.
Charles - time to repost Boobs Not Bombs.
| 486 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:32:28am |
| 487 |
Buck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:32:29am |
re: #249 Honorary Yooper
Charles,
I'm having the oddest problem. The system keeps claiming I am logged out when I try to comment after a reload. Now, I know that according to the log in boxes up top, and at the bottom of the thread page, I am logged in when this occurs. Is this due to the IP addresses?
I had that problem, but I logged out and then back in again, and all is well.
| 488 |
Salamantis Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:32:50am |
Why am I not surprised?
Romania Removes Theory of Evolution from School Curriculum
[Link: macedoniaonline.eu...]
Excerpt:
Romania's withdrawal of the theory of evolution from the school curriculum could be evidence of a growing conservative tendency in teaching. Evolution has been removed from the school curriculum in a move which, pressure groups argue, distorts children's understanding of how the world came into being.
Meanwhile, religious studies classes continue to tell Romanian children that God made the world in seven days.
The theory of the Origin of Species and the evolution of humans is no longer present in the compulsory curriculum, through a nationwide decision made under the previous Government in 2006. Before the change, Darwin's theory was taught to pupils aged 18 or 19 years old. This was also in the curriculum during the Communist period of dictator Nicolae Ceausescu.
Information on natural selection, how fish turned into lizards and, more or less, a summary of the first 4.5 billion years of the world until man walked the earth is now optional.
"We don't teach the theory of evolution anymore," said one 38 year-old Bucharest-based biology teacher.
Meanwhile, in religious classes, pupils are taught that the world was created in seven days and God made plants on the third day and the sun on the fourth. Textbooks claim the first man was Adam, who was 'made of ground', and that Eve, the first woman, was made from one of her husband's ribs.
| 490 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:33:00am |
re: #482 Creeping Eruption
I know a couple of Ophthalmologists who have told me horror stories of people grabbing glue, etc. instead of their contact solution.
Ugh!
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:33:00am |
re: #469 Creeping Eruption
I was raised Jewish. Miamo[m] would never allow it.
Then pass the rum, bum.
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bloodnok Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:33:16am |
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Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:33:29am |
re: #481 Occasional Reader
Somethin' fishy going on here. Twice I've quoted/replied to Ben Hur, twice it's been zapped. WTF?
Did the quote of Ben have an embedded link? When I was quoting things with embedded links it was truncating earlier.
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rawmuse Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:33:48am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
That was absolutely heart rending to watch.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:33:55am |
Off life support and running. Well done Charles thank you.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:33:58am |
re: #487 Buck
I had that problem, but I logged out and then back in again, and all is well.
My problem was fixed when Charles turned "KeepAlive" off.
Odd, that something killing the performance is called "KeepAlive".
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:34:03am |
re: #481 Occasional Reader
Somethin' fishy going on here. Twice I've quoted/replied to Ben Hur, twice it's been zapped. WTF?
Why is my Brave Voice of Dissent being silenced?
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:34:05am |
re: #477 razorbacker
And the trial ballon about Billy Jeff being ambassador at large?
For crying out loud, can't people stop talking about that man's penis?
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:34:38am |
re: #489 buzzsawmonkey
You don't hear much about that; I bet the ophthalmologists try to keep a lid on it.
Depends on how you look at it.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:34:43am |
re: #493 Thanos
Did the quote of Ben have an embedded link? When I was quoting things with embedded links it was truncating earlier.
Yes. But rawmuse just successfully did it (right after your post). I don't get it.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:35:02am |
re: #499 CyanSnowHawk
For crying out loud, can't people stop talking about that man's penis?
When is a cigar not just a cigar...
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beblebrox Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:35:08am |
re: #482 Creeping Eruption
I know a couple of Ophthalmologists who have told me horror stories of people grabbing glue, etc. instead of their contact solution.
my boss here did that last year.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:35:14am |
Good afternoon, everyone!
This is a test.
earlier I could not post a comment, even though I was logged on I got a message that i was not logged in.
So, let's see what happens now.
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:35:25am |
re: #493 Thanos
Did the quote of Ben have an embedded link? When I was quoting things with embedded links it was truncating earlier.
That happened to me too, but I didn't make that particular connection. Thanks for the explain. Charles would tell only that an HTML tag was missing.
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zombie Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:35:52am |
re: #456 Charles
Yessir, that was the biggest hangup. Things are rocking now.
And the new server is a lot faster. The load average for the old one with our current traffic would have been in the 4-5 region -- with the new one it's showing 0.88.
W00t.
LGF just went from molasses to Teflon. Z-z-z-z-z-z-zip!
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Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:35:54am |
re: #462 Occasional Reader
Is there a sharp sensation of cold on your Nie? Buhrrr!
I see I've been transported (rather quickly, I might add, Charles) to the middle of the daily LGF Pun Festival.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:36:00am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
Trying again after reloading...
I had to stop watching that video after about 10 seconds.
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hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:36:06am |
re: #498 Occasional Reader
[deleted]
huh...that's weirod...hamsters must be trained in thought-crimes...
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:36:09am |
re: #488 Salamantis
Tragic. Now we get to watch what happens when science education is allowed to slide.
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SummerSong Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:36:15am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
Aw, Damn. Made me cry.
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rawmuse Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:36:18am |
The site is moving right along now. I would estimate a 3x improvement on my end.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:36:19am |
Dammit! And that was after reloading.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:36:43am |
re: #506 zombie
LGF just went from molasses to Teflon. Z-z-z-z-z-z-zip!
Yes, even in IE, LGF is slick and smooth now.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:36:58am |
re: #479 WrathofG-d
always have to ham it up don't you. But I guess that i one of the reason I sty around here.
Don't dissuade me from posting!
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:37:12am |
re: #488 Salamantis
Yea! It wasn't an American State this time.
/We didn't annex Romania when I wasn't looking did we?
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Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:37:24am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
Test quote of Ben's link in IE7
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:37:25am |
re: #506 zombie
LGF just went from molasses to Teflon. Z-z-z-z-z-z-zip!
It's a Teflon-coated cop-killer LGF! It should be banned!
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:37:30am |
re: #462 Occasional Reader
I'm getting Nietzsche just thinking about it.
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:37:40am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
I've said it before, but it bears repeating. Most people are not worth their dog's love.
I hope some day to be half the man that my dog thinks I am.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:37:41am |
re: #498 Occasional Reader
Why is my Brave Voice of Dissent being silenced?
You've been Zappata'd, Commandante.
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hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:37:48am |
re: #506 zombie
LGF just went from molasses to Teflon. Z-z-z-z-z-z-zip!
AAAaaaiiieiiieieee! THUMP!
/ow...*whimper*
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zombie Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:37:54am |
re: #456 Charles
Yessir, that was the biggest hangup.
I thought he died of AIDS in Paris?
Oh, wait, you said "Yessir." My bad. But hanging him up would have been a nice conclusion to his career, nonetheless.
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Randall Gross Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:38:01am |
Something in IE7 truncating the embedded leading link in Ben's 451
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:38:05am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
Test
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:38:21am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:38:27am |
re: #516 MandyManners
Don't dissuade me from posting!
I wouldn't think of it. :)
(sotto voce: besides you wouldn't shut up even if we all tried)
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bosforus Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:38:53am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
And then there's the Wal-Mart incident. I'm beginning to understand more and more why my wife says dogs are the perfect animal.
[thanks for making me tear up at work, by the way]
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nyc redneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:38:53am |
re: #494 rawmuse
That was absolutely heart rending to watch.
that was unbelievable. you could tell how scared that little dog was and yet it pulled it's friend to safety. i feel like i watched something too profound and moving for words.
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opinionated Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:02am |
Really good piece.
Yes, the terrorists are winning
By Steven Emerson
This past Saturday, the New York Times ran an op-ed piece entitled "What They Hate about Mumbai," focusing specifically on the free market sins of that great city. With contrived evenhandedness, the op-ed managed to blame both Hindus and Muslim extremists-without blaming either party in particular for the murderous attacks.
Without realizing it, the Grey Lady had hit upon a great travel series. In the best spirit of jihad for dummies, why not a year's worth of op-eds focusing on "Why They Hate___" filled in, mad-libs style, with the U.S., Britain, Italy, Spain, Germany, the Netherlands, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, Kenya, and the other 74 countries where radical Islam has reared its violent head? With only the moral blindness that the New York Times could capture, each op-ed would portray the attacks in a contrived even-handed way, without blaming, or even naming, the perpetrators of the attacks-Muslim jihadists.
Watching and reading reports of the Mumbai attacks was an Alice in Wonderland experience. Even after an Islamic terrorist group took credit, TV anchors and reporters assiduously avoided the term Islamic terrorist. They must have consulted with the Thesaurus for the Politically Correct to determine that the word "gunmen" would not offend any jihadist.
The real truth is that there is war against the West and the Jews by Islamic jihadists.
On Wednesday, even though everyone knew by then that the perpetrators were jihadists, CNN constantly referred to the terrorists as "extremists"-with no modifier. Hell, they could have been the Basque ETA or the ultra right wing U.S. militia. Then a CNN anchor asked his guest with totally innocence, "Now why would an extremist group target a Jewish house of worship?" Because, my dear politically correct anchor, it was an Islamist terrorist group.
More
[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]
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Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:02am |
re: #476 Occasional Reader
And confusing your model airplane glue with your Chapstick can of course lead to Epoxy Lips.
Epoxy upon you.
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Rancher Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:04am |
Now that I'm a Computer Tech I'll be able to understand all this geek stuff. Not.
Real Rancher
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:12am |
re: #531 FurryOldGuyJeans
I wouldn't think of it. :)
(sotto voce: besides you wouldn't shut up even if we all tried)
Pig. Suede. Get it?
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annar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:15am |
Couldn't even get to the page this morning EST and thought that the server was undergoing a Denial Of Darwin attack from the ID institute. But then, on second thought, they could never put such evolutionary thoughts into action.
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gop_patriot Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:17am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
Guess I'll try too... test
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maddogg Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:17am |
re: #519 Occasional Reader
It's a Teflon-coated cop-killer LGF! It should be banned!
"Teflon coated cop killer", what a piece of left wing propaganda. Like a bullet needs anything other than mass and velocity to get through body armor.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:27am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
Testing too.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:32am |
re: #507 Soona'
I see I've been transported (rather quickly, I might add, Charles) to the middle of the daily LGF Pun Festival.
It's a philosophy, really.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:35am |
re: #520 lawhawk
I'm getting Nietzsche just thinking about it.
You mean that cartoon about the homicidal (yet philosophical) mouse and cat? Nietzsche and Croce?
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Desert Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:38am |
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Dirk Diggler Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:39:55am |
Interesting article from the WSJ on the Big 3's latest propaganda push...
A Bridge Loan Too Far: Why GM Is Doomed Anyway
But the restructuring plan comes up short on the most fundamental question. Will this company actually make money? Just look at the details — or what details are lacking.GM says it plans to focus on only four brands. So why does the number of models only drop from 48 to 40?
GM has 6,600 dealers, which it says it will cut to 4,700 by 2012. Honda has 1,300 dealers. Even Ford has only 4,100 — which it will cut further.
And nowhere in the document does GM lay out, year by year, its own projected market share. This is perhaps the most critical part of any business plan. The kind of thing you learn in the first day of business school.
Turn to Exhibit B-1 — and you find something interesting. It is only in an appendix entry — and not stated explicitly. GM appears to have changed its market share assumption for 2009 GM U.S. volume from 20.6% a year ago to 22.5% today.
In this environment, it seems strange that GM is actually increasing its market share assumptions. And car business is all about volumes.
That points to the real flaw in the GM restructuring plan. The U.S. car industry has been a credit junkie that now has to go cold turkey.
In 2007, GMAC financed about half of GM’s retail car sales, many to customers with weak credit. Today GMAC can’t finance to customers with credit scores under 700. In fact, today GMAC funds only 6% of GM’s retail car sales. No wonder GM sales have fallen off a cliff.
Will that change over the next year?
Ask yourself how long it will take housing to hit a bottom and you’ll understand why the GM restructuring plan ain’t gonna cut it.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:40:04am |
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Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:40:13am |
re: #536 Rancher
Now that I'm a Computer Tech I'll be able to understand all this geek stuff. Not.
Real Rancher
Have you considered staying at a Holiday Inn express?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:40:41am |
re: #527 Thanos
Something in IE7 truncating the embedded leading link in Ben's 451
You're right. Looked fine in the comment window. Clicked "post". Pfft!
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WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:40:42am |
Hamas Video Shows Their Own Torture of Fatah I'm sure International Leftists will get right on this. CLOSE GAZA-mo NOW!
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:41:03am |
re: #527 Thanos
Something in IE7 truncating the embedded leading link in Ben's 451
It's the target="_blank" tag. The link lacks the quotes around the "_blank", so it is not a complete tag. Thus, everything past the tag does not show up in the comment.
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rawmuse Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:41:09am |
re: #544 Desert Dog
You spelled it incorrectly: I-N-S-A-N-E is the correct way
I surf, but I am a wimp when it comes to that level. Dudes die on those waves.
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bosforus Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:41:14am |
re: #550 MandyManners
I can't watch it. I just can't.
Then watch this puppy instead. It'll make you smile and laugh.
[Link: www.break.com...]
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:41:20am |
re: #540 maddogg
"Teflon coated cop killer", what a piece of left wing propaganda. Like a bullet needs anything other than mass and velocity to get through body armor.
I coat all my armor-piecing bullets with Pam. It's low in cholesterol!
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rawmuse Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:41:37am |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:41:51am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
Testing...
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:42:13am |
re: #545 Dirk Diggler
Indeed, if GM is claiming that they have to eliminate brand lines, why only 8 models being axed? At a time when they have more dealerships than Ford and Honda combined, why are they cutting only a couple hundred dealers? They still have their priorities wrong and aren't willing or even capable of making tough business decisions that will help eliminate structural problems in their business operations.
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hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:42:15am |
re: #550 MandyManners
I can't watch it. I just can't.
Makes me remember the program War Dogs - never cried so hard in my life...
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:42:33am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:42:47am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
Another test, adding quote marks
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:42:51am |
re: #451 Ben Hur
Dog Risks Life To Save Injured Friend
This is why terrorists should not be called "Animals."
Poor little guy.
bbl.
Thanos, O.R., try it with quotes around "_blank" in the link tag. For some reason they are being left off in IE (maybe other browsers too).
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:43:00am |
re: #562 Occasional Reader
[yep, I think you're on to something]
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Salamantis Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:43:33am |
Speaking of dogs (and cats)...
Dogs Chase Efficiently, But Cats Skulk Counterintuitively
[Link: www.eurekalert.org...]
DURHAM, N.C. -- A Duke University study suggests that evolution can behave as differently as dogs and cats. While the dogs depend on an energy-efficient style of four-footed running over long distances to catch their prey, cats seem to have evolved a profoundly inefficient gait, tailor-made to creep up on a mouse or bird in slow motion.
"It is usually assumed that efficiency is what matters in evolution," said Daniel Schmitt, a Duke associate professor of evolutionary anthropology. "We've found that's too simple a way of looking at evolution, because there are some animals that need to operate at high energy cost and low efficiency."
Namely cats.
In a report published online Nov. 26 in the research journal Public Library of Science (PLoS), Schmitt and two former Duke co-researchers followed up on a scientific hunch by measuring and videotaping how six housecats moved along a 6 yard-long runway in pursuit of food treats or feline toys.
Long-distance chase predators like dogs can reduce their muscular work needed to move forward by as much as 70 percent by allowing their body to rise and fall and exchanging potential and kinetic energy with each step. In contrast, the maximum for cats is about 37 percent and much lower than that in a stalking posture, the report found.
"An important implication of these results is the possibility of a tradeoff between stealthy walking and economy of locomotion," the three researchers wrote in PLoS. "These data show a previously unrecognized mechanical relationship in which crouched postures are associated with changes in footfall pattern, which are in turn related to reduced mechanical energy recovery."
In other words, they found that when cats slink close to the ground they walk in a way that "the movements of their front and back ends cancel each other out," Schmitt said. While that's not good for energy efficiency "the total movement of their bodies is going to be even and they'll be flowing along," he added
"If they're creeping, they're going to put this foot down, and then that foot down and then that one in an even fashion. We think it has to do with stability and caution, Schmitt said."
Walking humans recover as much energy as dogs, said Schmitt, who studies gaits of various mammals. "Our centers of mass rise and fall when we walk. And when we do that, humans and other animals exchange potential and kinetic energy. It's an evolutionary miracle in my view.
"But cats need to creep up on their prey. Most scientists think that energetic efficiency is the currency of natural selection. Here we've shown that some animals make compromises when they have to choose between competing demands."
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:43:35am |
re: #551 WrathofG-d
What is this violence between Hamas and Fatah being reported? I thought they were all one big happy family looking to get a two-state solution with Israel. /seriously misinformed by the media worldwide.
| 568 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:43:40am |
re: #564 Honorary Yooper
Thanos, O.R., try it with quotes around "_blank" in the link tag. For some reason they are being left off in IE (maybe other browsers too).
Testing
| 569 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:44:12am |
re: #559 lawhawk
Indeed, if GM is claiming that they have to eliminate brand lines, why only 8 models being axed? At a time when they have more dealerships than Ford and Honda combined, why are they cutting only a couple hundred dealers? They still have their priorities wrong and aren't willing or even capable of making tough business decisions that will help eliminate structural problems in their business operations.
What is the financial link between number of dealerships & the viability of the manufacturer? Just curious.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:44:13am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:44:16am |
re: #554 bosforus
Then watch this puppy instead. It'll make you smile and laugh.
[Link: www.break.com...]
Oh, that's just awful.
| 572 |
vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:44:35am |
Okay, finally got the boss's machine happy, so I get back to the important stuff. What have I missed? I see reports that everything is moving smoothly, but of course I want to see it for myself.
| 573 |
Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:44:56am |
re: #502 Honorary Yooper
When is a cigar not just a cigar...
Did you have to bring Clinton into this?
| 574 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:44:59am |
re: #537 MandyManners
Pig. Suede. Get it?
No, but then I am not a skin wearer as a rule. I go the tweaked plant fiber route generally.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:45:06am |
re: #561 buzzsawmonkey
I thought you didn't go to "Atlas" any more.
I shrugged off "Atlas" some time ago.
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tfc3rid Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:45:13am |
re: #559 lawhawk
GM will simply get their bailout and fall back... They will keep business operating as it is right now and then come crying back to nanny Obama when they need more $$... And we will get more of the same ol crap from them...
They need to experience a nuke on their business to change...
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Rancher Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:45:35am |
re: #547 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I still work part time for Hilton Hotels, they wouldn't like that.
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:45:48am |
Wow. 61 degrees at noon. Now 55 and dropping down to a forecast 22.
I love the South.
| 579 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:45:54am |
re: #545 Dirk Diggler
Interesting article from the WSJ on the Big 3's latest propaganda push...
Operation Marketing Garden?
| 580 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:46:00am |
re: #556 rawmuse
I know, it is rough. I teared up immediately.
I'll never forget the evil fucker who ran over my cockapoo when I was about 11. I marched up the street to his house and ripped him a new one. He had the gall to call my parents and tattle but they backed me up.
| 581 |
tfc3rid Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:46:01am |
re: #567 lawhawk
What is this violence between Hamas and Fatah being reported? I thought they were all one big happy family looking to get a two-state solution with Israel. /seriously misinformed by the media worldwide.
There is really still violence going on over there? Wow...
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nyc redneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:46:13am |
re: #534 opinionated
Really good piece.
Yes, the terrorists are winning
By Steven EmersonMore
[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]
we are going to have trouble fighting this enemy until we properly name them and accept that they are not a group we can have dialogue w/.
they are MOSLEM TERRORISTS who seek to spread islam everywhere at any cost. it is that simple.
all the pc euphemisms for these barbarians, cripple our ability to fight them.
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WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:46:14am |
re: #567 lawhawk
Well the way I see it, if Hamas and Fatah are having a territorial dispute (over Aza, and Judea/Samaria) there is only one solution when persuing a "peace process" between them, and that is to divide the lands.
Which, as we are always told, means that there is no other solution than a 2 state solution between Hamas and Fatah!
~~right!?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:46:34am |
re: #560 hermit
Makes me remember the program War Dogs - never cried so hard in my life...
Don't know that one at all.
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Eowyn2 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:46:54am |
re: #567 lawhawk
What is this violence between Hamas and Fatah being reported? I thought they were all one big happy family looking to get a two-state solution with Israel. /seriously misinformed by the media worldwide.
they are working on a two state solution
Fatahstan
Hamasistan
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:47:00am |
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opinionated Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:47:05am |
re: #551 WrathofG-d
Hamas Video Shows Their Own Torture of Fatah I'm sure International Leftists will get right on this. CLOSE GAZA-mo NOW!
Even as dumb as any Israeli who ever believes that there could be peace if they just gave the barbarians territory, you would think they would pause to contemplate that this is what they do TO THEIR OWN when given the chance.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:47:07am |
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:47:22am |
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tfc3rid Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:47:31am |
re: #582 nyc redneck
Face it though, given the Administration that 60 Million voted into office, PC is here to stay... And perhaps even become the law of the land...
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hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:47:38am |
re: #566 Salamantis
Don't forget the birds...!
Do Early Birds Catch Worms?
By Ralph Incher-Smith
| 597 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:47:50am |
re: #588 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Ayn what happened when you did?
My sex life improved. I feel much more Rand-y.
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:48:18am |
re: #566 Salamantis
In other words, they found that when cats slink close to the ground they walk in a way that "the movements of their front and back ends cancel each other out," Schmitt said. While that's not good for energy efficiency "the total movement of their bodies is going to be even and they'll be flowing along," he added"If they're creeping, they're going to put this foot down, and then that foot down and then that one in an even fashion. We think it has to do with stability and caution, Schmitt said."
They forgot the butt wiggle. It's an absolute requirement when stalking.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:48:44am |
re: #574 FurryOldGuyJeans
No, but then I am not a skin wearer as a rule. I go the tweaked plant fiber route generally.
I've leather pants, a leather mini-skirt, a few leather shirts and vests.
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WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:48:56am |
re: #587 Eowyn2
actually as it is now it is Hamastan, and Fatahstan. This is the status-quo that isn't working.
What we need is a partition of Aza into Hamastan & Fatahstan, and (if you are going to accept Arab control over East Israel-Judea/Samaria), another Hamastan & Fatahstan.
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:49:12am |
BBL.
I'm going to fix the dog a peanut butter sammich.
You'd think he'd like meat better, but he doesn't.
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:49:15am |
re: #583 WrathofG-d
They already have separate areas. They just don't want only their part. They want it all, and then they want the rest of Israel too. They will not stop their attacks until they're either destroyed or destroy everyone around them.
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Salamantis Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:49:22am |
re: #596 hermit
Don't forget the birds...!
Do Early Birds Catch Worms?
By Ralph Incher-Smith
The early worm gets eaten by a bird...;~)
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:49:28am |
re: #598 vxbush
They forgot the butt wiggle. It's an absolute requirement when stalking.
I thought it was the butt wiggle that caused the stalking.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:49:37am |
re: #599 MandyManners
I've leather pants, a leather mini-skirt, a few leather shirts and vests.
Should we start calling you MistressMandyManners?
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WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:50:05am |
re: #594 buzzsawmonkey
Maybe, permanent for Israel and transitory for the Arabs?
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:50:17am |
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bosforus Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:50:25am |
Speaking of dogs, anyone ever seen a Rhodesian Ridgeback? They're absolutely gorgeous and while walking three of my relative's dogs at a dog park we ran into a family of 6 adult Rhodesians! Yes, 6, and it was truly a sight to behold. They're energetic, beautiful, athletic, fearless (they were breed to hunt lions), and incredibly friendly.
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maddogg Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:50:28am |
re: #606 Occasional Reader
Should we start calling you MistressMandyManners?
She IS awfully fond of the "Whack".
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Son of the Black Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:50:42am |
re: #559 lawhawk
Indeed, if GM is claiming that they have to eliminate brand lines, why only 8 models being axed? At a time when they have more dealerships than Ford and Honda combined, why are they cutting only a couple hundred dealers? They still have their priorities wrong and aren't willing or even capable of making tough business decisions that will help eliminate structural problems in their business operations.
Aren't dealerships still owned by independent businesses and individuals? I didn't think the automakers owned any of the dealerships. However, one of the auto industry's dirty little accounting secrets is that they consider a car "sold" when they ship it to the dealer, not when the car is actually sold to a consumer. Dealer inventory gets too high and the dealer stops taking cars, although IIRC, they are required to take a minimum number of cars per month under their contracts. But that doesn't prevent unsold cars from piling up at the factory, and ultimately requiring production cuts.
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Salamantis Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:50:46am |
re: #596 hermit
Don't forget the birds...!
Do Early Birds Catch Worms?
By Ralph Incher-Smith
Lemme try this again...
The early worm gets eaten by a bird...;~)
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:50:54am |
re: #601 razorbacker
BBL.
I'm going to fix the dog a peanut butter sammich.
You'd think he'd like meat better, but he doesn't.
Does yer dog get it stuck on the roof of his mouth?
Mine do & it is a riot while they tilt their head back further & further trying to get it off.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:51:01am |
re: #567 lawhawk
What is this violence between Hamas and Fatah being reported? I thought they were all one big happy family looking to get a two-state solution with Israel. /seriously misinformed by the media worldwide.
Ever seen a really big family at a holiday gathering?
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WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:51:17am |
re: #602 lawhawk
They already have separate areas. They just don't want only their part. They want it all, and then they want the rest of Israel too. They will not stop their attacks until they're either destroyed or destroy everyone around them.
Ok I meant to just cancel my "ding", not give you a negative.
I don't want them "destroyed", I just want them moved to an area where they would be forced to at worst lob missiles, and mortars over large bodies of water.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:51:25am |
re: #606 Occasional Reader
Should we start calling you MistressMandyManners?
They're just clothes, you pervert!
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:51:30am |
re: #604 Sharmuta
I thought it was the butt wiggle that caused the stalking.
Maybe in the human species, but both my cats go into this routine when stalking:
Eyes get big.
Cat drops low to the ground.
Cat starts moving ever so slowly, staying even left-to-right.
The butt wiggles, and they explode toward the prey.
I watch this nightly. I know the drill.
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Salamantis Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:51:40am |
re: #596 hermit
For some reason, I gotta do it this way...
The early worm gets eaten by a bird...;~)
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:52:12am |
re: #619 MandyManners
They're just clothes, you pervert!
I'm so sorry for having posted that. It was really bad of me. I deserve to be spanked.
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jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:52:25am |
re: #621 Salamantis
For some reason, I gotta do it this way...
The early worm gets eaten by a bird...;~)
The second mouse gets the cheese...
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Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:52:45am |
re: #559 lawhawk
Indeed, if GM is claiming that they have to eliminate brand lines, why only 8 models being axed? At a time when they have more dealerships than Ford and Honda combined, why are they cutting only a couple hundred dealers? They still have their priorities wrong and aren't willing or even capable of making tough business decisions that will help eliminate structural problems in their business operations.
It isn't the business ops. that are killing them is it? Isn't it their outlandish retirement and medical benefits that's draining the coffers?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:53:01am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:53:27am |
Maybe in the human species, but both my cats go into this routine when stalking:Eyes get big.
Cat drops low to the ground.
Cat starts moving ever so slowly, staying even left-to-right.
The butt wiggles, and they explode toward the prey.I watch this nightly. I know the drill.
I bet the prey don't like that a bit.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:53:28am |
re: #620 vxbush
Maybe in the human species, but both my cats go into this routine when stalking:
Eyes get big.
Cat drops low to the ground.
Cat starts moving ever so slowly, staying even left-to-right.
The butt wiggles, and they explode toward the prey.I watch this nightly. I know the drill.
I fail to see the difference in species. ;p
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rawmuse Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:53:28am |
re: #612 bosforus
I have some experience with the Ridgebacks. They are outstanding dogs, not big barkers, no grooming (or very little) required, and very obedient. If there is one possibly negative characteristic about them it is that they are very much a "one master" dog, and if you are not their accustomed master, you are in for a hard time with them.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:53:38am |
re: #627 Charles
Now to re-enable gzip compression...
This sounds like a line from a science fiction movie that's been "MST3K'd".
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:54:14am |
re: #620 vxbush
Maybe in the human species, but both my cats go into this routine when stalking:
Eyes get big.
Cat drops low to the ground.
Cat starts moving ever so slowly, staying even left-to-right.
The butt wiggles, and they explode toward the prey.I watch this nightly. I know the drill.
I bet the prey don't like that a bit.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:54:33am |
re: #633 rawmuse
they are very much a "one master" dog, and if you are not their accustomed master, you are in for a hard time with them.
Didn't Jesus teach us that "no dog can serve two masters"?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:54:44am |
re: #623 Occasional Reader
I'm so sorry for having posted that. It was really bad of me. I deserve to be spanked.
No.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:54:54am |
re: #636 MandyManners
I bet the prey don't like that a bit.
They usually love it. Oh, wait- you meant the cats' prey.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:55:11am |
re: #599 MandyManners
I've leather pants, a leather mini-skirt, a few leather shirts and vests.
Mistress Mandy!
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:55:39am |
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Son of the Black Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:55:47am |
re: #580 MandyManners
I'll never forget the evil fucker who ran over my cockapoo when I was about 11. I marched up the street to his house and ripped him a new one. He had the gall to call my parents and tattle but they backed me up.
Wish I'd had the ticket concession for that one, plus about an hour to draw a crowd.
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:55:58am |
Is it my imagination, or are comments getting put in above other comments I've already read? I swear it is, but I need to read more carefully, I guess.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:56:02am |
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:56:12am |
re: #559 lawhawk
Indeed, if GM is claiming that they have to eliminate brand lines, why only 8 models being axed? At a time when they have more dealerships than Ford and Honda combined, why are they cutting only a couple hundred dealers? They still have their priorities wrong and aren't willing or even capable of making tough business decisions that will help eliminate structural problems in their business operations.
The problem is that they cannot just go out and cut dealers as a retail chain would cut stores. This is due to state franchising laws since each dealer is an independent business.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:56:16am |
re: #576 tfc3rid
GM will simply get their bailout and fall back... They will keep business operating as it is right now and then come crying back to nanny Obama when they need more $$... And we will get more of the same ol crap from them...
They need to experience a nuke on their business to change...
Besides the union concessions for all of those unfunded liabilities, that were talked about earlier, GM also needs other restructure work on their balance sheet. GM has $3B in equity and about $45 Billion in debt. It seems to me that the equity needs to be wiped out and the debt needs to be pared down.
Ergo --> BK court.
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gop_patriot Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:56:30am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:56:53am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:57:11am |
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WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:57:11am |
re: #629 buzzsawmonkey
Works for me, but I'd even accept just over the Jordan River.
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vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:57:12am |
Now, are we set up to handle special characters?
¢ ¢ ¢ ¢ cent sign
¤ ¤ ¤ ¤ currency sign
€ € € € euro sign
£ £ £ £ pound sign
¥
Yup.
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Desert Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:57:14am |
re: #651 DeafDog
Besides the union concessions for all of those unfunded liabilities, that were talked about earlier, GM also needs other restructure work on their balance sheet. GM has $3B in equity and about $45 Billion in debt. It seems to me that the equity needs to be wiped out and the debt needs to be pared down.
Ergo --> BK court.
But first, let's flush 18-20 Billion of the taxpayers money down the drain
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rawmuse Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:57:23am |
re: #638 Occasional Reader
Didn't Jesus teach us that "no dog can serve two masters"?
Some dogs more than others. I have a dog that I baby sit (belongs to a neighbor, but I walk him a lot) and he obeys me pretty good, tho' I am not his usual master.
Time for that walk right about now. See you all later!
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A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:57:30am |
Steve Emerson with an article from Jewishworldview.
Apologies if this has already been posted.
And hopefully those who think that "muslims are our friend" will pause and rethink their position.
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jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:58:06am |
re: #637 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*waves hand*
Hi there!
*waves back*
How's things?
We had fun at my house last night. Just at bed time my 4 year was playing on the back of the couch (a no no) falls off (I told him so) lands on a toy and puts a small bloody gash on the back of his head. Some time later after treat the wound and getting everything settled back down and getting everyone in bed the 2 year starts crying owee owee in bed, I go in she's throwing up in bed.
Some nights you just have to laugh.
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Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:58:12am |
re: #653 Iron Fist
I think that the gun controlers wanted to make sure all the gangbangers in the 'hood knew that cops were wearing bullet-proof vests.
So shoot them in the face.
I was always taught 2 to the chest, 1 to the head.
First 2 round stun them even if they're wearing a vest, gives you more time to set up the head shot.
| 666 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:58:23am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:58:25am |
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:58:26am |
re: #594 buzzsawmonkey
My favorite two-state solution is solid for Israel, and plasma for the terrorists.
Plasma is so generous - I would say gas was more appropriate.
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:58:31am |
re: #389 Charles
I think some of the problems are related to DNS; the IP address of the server changed, and it can take some time for that to get around the net.
But it's definitely improving now.
So its almost through the whole BIOS-phere?
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hazzyday Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:58:37am |
Per Obama, all new servers will be equipped with a hope and change power button.
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hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:58:48am |
re: #649 MandyManners
*throws up hands*
You shouldn't eat hands if you're gonna drink that much, Mandy...ewww
| 673 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:59:10am |
re: #584 buzzsawmonkey
But the ocean levels are dropping. Look on the bright side.
And I saw my first unicorn today.
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opinionated Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:59:11am |
re: #618 WrathofG-d
I don't want them "destroyed", I just want them moved to an area where they would be forced to at worst lob missiles, and mortars over large bodies of water.
Atlantis?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:59:12am |
re: #646 Son of the Black Dog
Wish I'd had the ticket concession for that one, plus about an hour to draw a crowd.
I chewed him out so badly that he would drive on the far side of the road whenever he saw me out.
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:59:18am |
re: #658 vxbush
Incuding you!HA!
LGF was down all mornin for me!
Thought the problem was on my end...
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bosforus Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:59:22am |
re: #633 rawmuse
...if you are not their accustomed master, you are in for a hard time with them.
I can imagine. Although I was entranced by them I also realized I wouldn't stand a chance if they got it into their heads to just do whatever they want.
| 679 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:59:30am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 11:59:53am |
re: #663 jcm
Throwing up in bed?!?!?!
Possibly concussion?
| 681 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:00:10pm |
re: #665 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I was always taught 2 to the chest, 1 to the head.
First 2 round stun them even if they're wearing a vest, gives you more time to set up the head shot.
Mozambique Drill!
People sometimes look at me kinda funny at the range when I practice that.
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maddogg Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:00:19pm |
re: #653 Iron Fist
I think that the gun controlers wanted to make sure all the gangbangers in the 'hood knew that cops were wearing bullet-proof vests.
So shoot them in the face.
Most of the gang bangers couldn't hit a bear in the ass with a base fiddle. They do a drive by, fire 60 rounds at a rival and miss completely, but kill some kid in bed 2 blocks over.
| 683 |
WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:00:33pm |
re: #674 opinionated
Australia to the Arabs!
| 684 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:00:34pm |
re: #623 Occasional Reader
I'm so sorry for having posted that. It was really bad of me. I deserve to be spanked.
LOL
| 685 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:00:45pm |
re: #381 realwest
and
re: #367 Dark_FalconI'm gonna repeat myself here, but y'all really ought to read the link put up by lawhawk in his #294 it's superb!
By the way, I watched a "back and forth" on a news show (forget which) and after that I think the big three need to go through a forced restructuring bankruptcy (Chap 11 or Chap 13, I forget which?). That should allow them to unshackle themselves a little bit from the UAW.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:00:48pm |
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:01:11pm |
re: #670 hazzyday
Per Obama, all new servers will be equipped with a hope and change power button.
Right next to the "any" key.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:01:15pm |
re: #679 MandyManners
*whack*
yes! YES!
oohhh sweet mystery of liiife, at last I've fouuund yoouuu...
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:01:15pm |
re: #656 MandyManners
Clothes!
Hopefully they were not the clothes you had to doff during the 'gas station' incident.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:01:16pm |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:01:47pm |
re: #662 Sharmuta
The drill bit? That's the best part.
I get uptight all over just thinking about the dentist's office.
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hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:01:53pm |
re: #676 reloadingisnotahobby
Incuding you!HA!
LGF was down all mornin for me!
Thought the problem was on my end...
I am definitely NOT going there!...not going... aw hell!
oh, LGF was down on me, too, but no problems at my end...heh
/going out for a smoke...
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:02:11pm |
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:02:26pm |
re: #589 maddogg
How about some Squirrel Launching instead?
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bosforus Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:02:31pm |
re: #680 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Throwing up in bed?!?!?!
Possibly concussion?
Yes, sounds like a concussion.
jcm - was the baby throwing up the same baby that hit its head?
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jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:02:40pm |
re: #680 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Throwing up in bed?!?!?!
Possibly concussion?
Different kids, 4 year old boy with head bonk, 2 year girl with throwing up. She's sometimes over eats, and has a weak hiatal valve and any pressure on valve and everything comes up.
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:02:46pm |
re: #694 hermit
I am definitely NOT going there!...not going... aw hell!
oh, LGF was down on me, too, but no problems at my end...heh
/going out for a smoke...
What? Too early to have a drink?
| 700 |
WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:02:49pm |
Yes, the terrorists are winning
By Steven Emerson
This past Saturday, the New York Times ran an op-ed piece entitled "What They Hate about Mumbai," focusing specifically on the free market sins of that great city. With contrived evenhandedness, the op-ed managed to blame both Hindus and Muslim extremists-without blaming either party in particular for the murderous attacks.
Without realizing it, the Grey Lady had hit upon a great travel series. In the best spirit of jihad for dummies, why not a year's worth of op-eds focusing on "Why They Hate___" filled in, mad-libs style, with the U.S., Britain, Italy, Spain, Germany, the Netherlands, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, Kenya, and the other 74 countries where radical Islam has reared its violent head? With only the moral blindness that the New York Times could capture, each op-ed would portray the attacks in a contrived even-handed way, without blaming, or even naming, the perpetrators of the attacks-Muslim jihadists.
Watching and reading reports of the Mumbai attacks was an Alice in Wonderland experience. Even after an Islamic terrorist group took credit, TV anchors and reporters assiduously avoided the term Islamic terrorist. They must have consulted with the Thesaurus for the Politically Correct to determine that the word "gunmen" would not offend any jihadist.
The real truth is that there is war against the West and the Jews by Islamic jihadists.
On Wednesday, even though everyone knew by then that the perpetrators were jihadists, CNN constantly referred to the terrorists as "extremists"-with no modifier. Hell, they could have been the Basque ETA or the ultra right wing U.S. militia. Then a CNN anchor asked his guest with totally innocence, "Now why would an extremist group target a Jewish house of worship?" Because, my dear politically correct anchor, it was an Islamist terrorist group.
The most that government officials, in cahoots with mainstream media, could utter were names like Al Qaeda (AQ) or Laskar-e-Taiba (LeT) as potential suspects. Yet even here, the discussions were mindless. One talking head said it could not be AQ since AQ behavior is to have massive simultaneous explosions (as if Al Qaeda follows a pre-programmed script). Another expert said LeT did not have the resources to carry it out, forgetting ever so slightly that all Islamic terrorist groups share resources, recruit from other terrorist groups, train each other, provide each other with equipment and, most importantly of all, want to destroy their "enemies."
In the United States, after 9/11, a group of American men (mostly converts) pleaded guilty or were found to be guilty of training with LeT and of trying to "wage war" against the United States. Evidence produced in the trial showed that LeT's website-before being taken down-focused disproportionately on two enemies: Americans and Jews. In 2004, Ismail Royer, an official with the Council on Islamic Relations (CAIR) who had trained with the Taliban, pled guilty to weapons and explosives charges. He was sentenced to 20 years in prison. In later grand jury testimony, Royer admitted that the cell's primary goal was to fight with the Taliban against United States forces in Afghanistan.
Our politically craven governments, followed in part by the media, have now started to ban the use of the term "Islamic terrorists" or "Islamic militants," insisting that they simply be called "extremists" or militants. The government's rationale was a page picked right out of the playbook of western radical Islamic strategy: Portray the use of the term "Islamic terrorist" as "racist" and as allegedly stigmatizing all Muslims.
(snip)
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:03:02pm |
re: #678 buzzsawmonkey
I'm not sure what a pizzle is, but my understanding is that it's free if it takes longer than 30 minutes to arrive.
You don't know what a pizzle is?
I ROCK!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:03:03pm |
re: #693 MandyManners
I get uptight all over just thinking about the dentist's office.
Put a cap on it, would ya?
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:03:07pm |
re: #687 buzzsawmonkey
That was my original thought, but I wanted to avoid anything which might give rise to spurious "genocide!" accusations.
LOL. Been there.
| 704 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:03:12pm |
re: #689 Occasional Reader
yes! YES!
oohhh sweet mystery of liiife, at last I've fouuund yoouuu...
I thought you would be more of a "PUDDDIN AWN DA WIIITZ!" kind of guy
| 705 |
WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:03:16pm |
(un-snip - Cont)
ast year, the Departments of State and Homeland Security issued an internal memorandum that henceforth no one could use the term "Islamic terrorists" and could only use the generic term "militant" or "extremist." Even President Bush, who once invoked the term "Islamofacism," now refuses to use the term Islamic terrorist. In Canada, the author Mark Steyn was the subject of three human rights complaints and subsequent trials for calling radical Muslims terrorists and other such "slurs." He won all three tribunals.
It is time to stop caving in to the PC crowd. If we refuse to use the term Islamic terrorist, we conveniently take away any onus of responsibility for Islamic groups to halt the murderous ideology they propagate. In fact, in nearly EVERY claim of responsibility, which I studied, for hundreds of violent Islamic attacks which took place since 9/11, the common justification by the Muslim terrorist perpetrator was that there was a "war against Muslims" by the West and the Jews that had to be avenged. The real truth is that there is war against the West and the Jews by Islamic jihadists. And no amount of territorial withdrawal or peace negotiations will assuage them.
But thankfully, there remains a glimmer of hope, and not from the condescending columnists of the New York Times or the State Department know-it-alls, but from courageous Muslim moderates in this country like Zuhdi Jasser or brutally honest Muslim columnists in the Middle East. While the West refuses to utter the term Islamic extremists and as a corollary holds no one responsible, at least one Muslim columnist has the guts to tell the truth of where the responsibility lies.
Aijaz Zaka Syed, a Muslim columnist who wrote a column for Sunday's Khaleej Times Online:
"It's all very well for us to say Islam has nothing to do with extremism and terrorism. We can go on deluding ourselves these psychopaths do not represent us..."
"The great religion that preaches and celebrates universal brotherhood, equality of men and peace and justice for all has been hijacked by a demented, miniscule minority. And, as my friend says, only Muslims can solve this problem. Only Muslims can confront these anarchists in their midst..."
"Only they can get their faith freed from the clutches of extremism. This is no time to hide. It's time to stand up and speak out. For the terrorists will continue to speak on our behalf, until we do not speak up. This is no time for silence. Enough is enough!"
Indeed, enough is enough. It is time to start listening to folks like Mr Syed or the courageous Zuhdi Jasser, rather than cave in to the PC crowd. Reporters seem incapable of reporting Islamic radicalism at home unless there is a conviction. And even then, as The New York Times has so dishonestly but consistently demonstrated, there are only good sheiks and good Islamic groups, not bad ones that preach jihad.
Even after the conviction of the defendants of all 108 counts in the Holy Land Foundation (Hamas) trial this past week, The New York Times poignantly focused its reporting not on the convictions for abetting terrorism and contributing to countless deaths of civilians, but on the tear jerking sobs of the wives and daughters of the convicted defendants who (surprise) claim their fathers were innocent. Now can you imagine the New York Times focusing its coverage sympathetically on the families of the convicted members of the KKK or neo-Nazis? Now further imagine reporters from the top newspapers getting their exclusive information for stories from un-indicted co-conspirators in the Hamas case.
| 707 |
WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:03:37pm |
(cont, cont)
It all comes together. After more than 7 years since 9/11, we can now issue a verdict: Islamic terrorists have won our hearts and minds. Let's thank those who made it happen: the U.S. government, European governments and the mainstream media. It's time to stop placating or being intimidated by Islamic front groups who masquerade as civil rights groups. In 2007, the perversity of was demonstrated when the FBI released its annual 2007 hate crime reports. Of the total 1,628 victims of anti-religious hate crimes, 69.2% were Jewish and 8.7% were Muslim. Yet by my still unfinished account, there were at least 40 times more stories last year about Islamophobia than about anti-Semitism.
The Mumbai massacre was a heavily planned plot carried out by Islamic terrorists. Period. Memo to Obama: Until the onus of responsibility is put on Islamic "civil rights" groups that want to ban free speech and claim that anyone who uses the term Islamic terrorist is a racist, there is no hope of winning the battle.
| 708 |
maddogg Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:03:45pm |
re: #696 Bubblehead II
How about some Squirrel Launching instead?
I prefer squirrel fishing, as it isn't cruel,
| 709 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:03:45pm |
re: #689 Occasional Reader
yes! YES!
oohhh sweet mystery of liiife, at last I've fouuund yoouuu...
You set me up!
*harumph*
| 710 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:03:57pm |
re: #680 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Throwing up in bed?!?!?!
Possibly concussion?
Different child. 4yo hit head, 2yo throwing up.
| 711 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:04:09pm |
re: #690 CyanSnowHawk
Hopefully they were not the clothes you had to doff during the 'gas station' incident.
Thank goodness, no.
| 712 |
hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:04:10pm |
re: #699 reloadingisnotahobby
What? Too early to have a drink?
*sawing yardarm off main mast*
NOT anymore!
| 713 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:04:16pm |
re: #702 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Put a cap on it, would ya?
Don't needle the poor guy, his head is already filled with horror stories.
| 714 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:04:59pm |
re: #698 jcm
Different kids, 4 year old boy with head bonk, 2 year girl with throwing up. She's sometimes over eats, and has a weak hiatal valve and any pressure on valve and everything comes up.
WHEW! I mis-read it.
| 718 |
Desert Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:05:29pm |
Up on Drudge now:
Police to use "truth" serum on terrorist
tsk tsk, India...you'll get a nasty letter from Amnesty International for that!
| 719 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:05:51pm |
| 720 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:06:08pm |
re: #659 Desert Dog
But first, let's flush 18-20 Billion of the taxpayers money down the drain
Obviously, the pols are not treating it like their money.
There needs to be some way of forcing them to understand that they are stealing from others to make these commitments. Maybe for every dollar of tax payer money that gets committed, I'd like to see the pols be forced to also commit their own cash. (that idea has its own flaws...I'm just thinking out loud).
| 721 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:06:21pm |
| 722 |
A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:06:21pm |
re: #700 WrathofG-d
Yes, the terrorists are winning
By Steven Emerson
This past Saturday, the New York Times ran an op-ed piece entitled "What They Hate about Mumbai," focusing specifically on the free market sins of that great city. With contrived evenhandedness, the op-ed managed to blame both Hindus and Muslim extremists-without blaming either party in particular for the murderous attacks.Without realizing it, the Grey Lady had hit upon a great travel series. In the best spirit of jihad for dummies, why not a year's worth of op-eds focusing on "Why They Hate___" filled in, mad-libs style, with the U.S., Britain, Italy, Spain, Germany, the Netherlands, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, Kenya, and the other 74 countries where radical Islam has reared its violent head? With only the moral blindness that the New York Times could capture, each op-ed would portray the attacks in a contrived even-handed way, without blaming, or even naming, the perpetrators of the attacks-Muslim jihadists.
Watching and reading reports of the Mumbai attacks was an Alice in Wonderland experience. Even after an Islamic terrorist group took credit, TV anchors and reporters assiduously avoided the term Islamic terrorist. They must have consulted with the Thesaurus for the Politically Correct to determine that the word "gunmen" would not offend any jihadist.
The real truth is that there is war against the West and the Jews by Islamic jihadists.
On Wednesday, even though everyone knew by then that the perpetrators were jihadists, CNN constantly referred to the terrorists as "extremists"-with no modifier. Hell, they could have been the Basque ETA or the ultra right wing U.S. militia. Then a CNN anchor asked his guest with totally innocence, "Now why would an extremist group target a Jewish house of worship?" Because, my dear politically correct anchor, it was an Islamist terrorist group.
The most that government officials, in cahoots with mainstream media, could utter were names like Al Qaeda (AQ) or Laskar-e-Taiba (LeT) as potential suspects. Yet even here, the discussions were mindless. One talking head said it could not be AQ since AQ behavior is to have massive simultaneous explosions (as if Al Qaeda follows a pre-programmed script). Another expert said LeT did not have the resources to carry it out, forgetting ever so slightly that all Islamic terrorist groups share resources, recruit from other terrorist groups, train each other, provide each other with equipment and, most importantly of all, want to destroy their "enemies."
In the United States, after 9/11, a group of American men (mostly converts) pleaded guilty or were found to be guilty of training with LeT and of trying to "wage war" against the United States. Evidence produced in the trial showed that LeT's website-before being taken down-focused disproportionately on two enemies: Americans and Jews. In 2004, Ismail Royer, an official with the Council on Islamic Relations (CAIR) who had trained with the Taliban, pled guilty to weapons and explosives charges. He was sentenced to 20 years in prison. In later grand jury testimony, Royer admitted that the cell's primary goal was to fight with the Taliban against United States forces in Afghanistan.
Our politically craven governments, followed in part by the media, have now started to ban the use of the term "Islamic terrorists" or "Islamic militants," insisting that they simply be called "extremists" or militants. The government's rationale was a page picked right out of the playbook of western radical Islamic strategy: Portray the use of the term "Islamic terrorist" as "racist" and as allegedly stigmatizing all Muslims.
(snip)
So, you didnt bother opening and reading my post before you cut and pasted yours, or are you just highlighting a part that needs to be reinforced?
| 723 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:06:44pm |
MN recount shenigians via Hot Air.
One possible explanation, offered by the Maplewood City Clerk, was that the automark scanner malfunctioned during the day and a replacement scanner was brought to the precinct. The ballots that were already cast may not have been re-scanned. But when a scanner malfunctions, it is recorded on the precinct Polling Place Incident Log. Here is the log from Maplewood P-6, a malfunction is not listed.
| 724 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:06:48pm |
re: #719 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
THEY'RE FEATURES!
Its like on a drug, those are not side effects...those are EFFECTS!
| 725 |
Learned Mother of Zion Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:07:03pm |
| 726 |
Salamantis Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:07:07pm |
Damn, that was fast!
The Kid (Leonardo DiCaprio), after his duel with John Herod (Gene Hackman) in The Quick and the Dead
| 727 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:07:10pm |
re: #700 WrathofG-d
Wait, wait, so those militant activist commando dissidents in Mumbai were jihadists?!
| 728 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:07:22pm |
re: #720 DeafDog
Obviously, the pols are not treating it like their money.
There needs to be some way of forcing them to understand that they are stealing from others to make these commitments. Maybe for every dollar of tax payer money that gets committed, I'd like to see the pols be forced to also commit their own cash. (that idea has its own flaws...I'm just thinking out loud).
Question: Does Congress pay federal income tax on its salary?
| 729 |
Learned Mother of Zion Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:07:27pm |
re: #718 Desert Dog
Up on Drudge now:
Police to use "truth" serum on terrorist
tsk tsk, India...you'll get a nasty letter from Amnesty International for that!
As long as they don't put panties on his head.
| 730 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:07:27pm |
re: #686 MandyManners
Did its farts smell of petunias?
Their turds smell like petunias. Their farts smell like petculi-pechulli-(shit), whatever that hippie stuff is.
| 731 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:07:52pm |
re: #727 Occasional Reader
Wait, wait, so those militant activist commando dissidents in Mumbai were jihadists?!
RACIST!
/s
| 732 |
vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:07:59pm |
Gahhh...cannot keep up with you folks! I blame the new server! Perhaps we need to add a few "sleep 30" commands to the server code occasionally...
| 733 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:08:06pm |
| 734 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:08:15pm |
re: #729 Alouette
As long as they don't put panties on his head.
or have him form a pyramid with other prisoners
| 735 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:08:25pm |
OK this time I am not going to say that I am back in.
| 736 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:08:37pm |
re: #720 DeafDog
Ahhh! The joys of spending other people's money.
| 737 |
A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:08:39pm |
re: #722 A Kiwi Infidel
What the heck happened to that?
| 738 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:08:45pm |
re: #730 Soona'
Their turds smell like petunias. Their farts smell like petculi-pechulli-(shit), whatever that hippie stuff is.
Patchouli.
| 739 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:08:53pm |
re: #732 vxbush
Gahhh...cannot keep up with you folks! I blame the new server! Perhaps we need to add a few "sleep 30" commands to the server code occasionally...
/brews another pot of coffee.
Must...keep...up...with...posting...
| 740 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:08:53pm |
| 741 |
GordonShumway Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:08:57pm |
| 742 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:09:05pm |
re: #734 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
or have him form a pyramid with other prisoners
I say we go all out against the jihadists. We put panties on their heads, then make the form a pyramid!
| 743 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:09:14pm |
re: #736 unreconstructed rebel
Ahhh! The joys of spending other people's money.
They spend it like teenage girls with daddy's credit card.
| 745 |
A Kiwi Infidel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:09:17pm |
re: #705 WrathofG-d
(un-snip - Cont)
ast year, the Departments of State and Homeland Security issued an internal memorandum that henceforth no one could use the term "Islamic terrorists" and could only use the generic term "militant" or "extremist." Even President Bush, who once invoked the term "Islamofacism," now refuses to use the term Islamic terrorist. In Canada, the author Mark Steyn was the subject of three human rights complaints and subsequent trials for calling radical Muslims terrorists and other such "slurs." He won all three tribunals.
It is time to stop caving in to the PC crowd. If we refuse to use the term Islamic terrorist, we conveniently take away any onus of responsibility for Islamic groups to halt the murderous ideology they propagate. In fact, in nearly EVERY claim of responsibility, which I studied, for hundreds of violent Islamic attacks which took place since 9/11, the common justification by the Muslim terrorist perpetrator was that there was a "war against Muslims" by the West and the Jews that had to be avenged. The real truth is that there is war against the West and the Jews by Islamic jihadists. And no amount of territorial withdrawal or peace negotiations will assuage them.
But thankfully, there remains a glimmer of hope, and not from the condescending columnists of the New York Times or the State Department know-it-alls, but from courageous Muslim moderates in this country like Zuhdi Jasser or brutally honest Muslim columnists in the Middle East. While the West refuses to utter the term Islamic extremists and as a corollary holds no one responsible, at least one Muslim columnist has the guts to tell the truth of where the responsibility lies.
Aijaz Zaka Syed, a Muslim columnist who wrote a column for Sunday's Khaleej Times Online:
"It's all very well for us to say Islam has nothing to do with extremism and terrorism. We can go on deluding ourselves these psychopaths do not represent us..."
"The great religion that preaches and celebrates universal brotherhood, equality of men and peace and justice for all has been hijacked by a demented, miniscule minority. And, as my friend says, only Muslims can solve this problem. Only Muslims can confront these anarchists in their midst..."
"Only they can get their faith freed from the clutches of extremism. This is no time to hide. It's time to stand up and speak out. For the terrorists will continue to speak on our behalf, until we do not speak up. This is no time for silence. Enough is enough!"
Indeed, enough is enough. It is time to start listening to folks like Mr Syed or the courageous Zuhdi Jasser, rather than cave in to the PC crowd. Reporters seem incapable of reporting Islamic radicalism at home unless there is a conviction. And even then, as The New York Times has so dishonestly but consistently demonstrated, there are only good sheiks and good Islamic groups, not bad ones that preach jihad.
Even after the conviction of the defendants of all 108 counts in the Holy Land Foundation (Hamas) trial this past week, The New York Times poignantly focused its reporting not on the convictions for abetting terrorism and contributing to countless deaths of civilians, but on the tear jerking sobs of the wives and daughters of the convicted defendants who (surprise) claim their fathers were innocent. Now can you imagine the New York Times focusing its coverage sympathetically on the families of the convicted members of the KKK or neo-Nazis? Now further imagine reporters from the top newspapers getting their exclusive information for stories from un-indicted co-conspirators in the Hamas case.
Wrath, I already posted the link to that
| 746 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:09:21pm |
re: #721 MandyManners
I'm gonna' crown you!
Ahh ... perhaps we should back off this confrontation ... find a bridge over troubled waters or somethin'.
| 747 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:09:27pm |
| 748 |
WrathofG-d Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:09:37pm |
re: #725 Alouette
Israeli media back to blaming the JOOZ.
That didn't take long.
Ah its election season in Israel again I see.
What they would never do to Arabs, they don't hesitate to do to Jews.
typical!
(ok I'll brb)
| 749 |
vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:09:44pm |
re: #739 Hengineer
/brews another pot of coffee.
Must...keep...up...with...posting...
As I don't do coffee, I may need to have bionic eyes and hands installed.
| 750 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:09:49pm |
re: #742 jcm
I say we go all out against the jihadists. We put panties on their heads, then make the form a pyramid!
Naw, make them dress up like the Village People and sing along to YMCA
| 751 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:09:56pm |
re: #742 jcm
I say we go all out against the jihadists. We put panties on their heads, then make the form a pyramid!
Can we do that to congress too?!
| 752 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:09:59pm |
| 753 |
maddogg Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:10:02pm |
re: #734 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
or have him form a pyramid with other prisoners
My thinking is, if they are going to accuse you of mistreating prisoners anyway, why not make it worth your while?
| 755 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:10:08pm |
re: #742 jcm
I say we go all out against the jihadists. We put panties on their heads, then make the form a pyramid!
Just so long as no women are present. That would be crossing a line.
| 756 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:10:09pm |
re: #732 vxbush
Gahhh...cannot keep up with you folks! I blame the new server! Perhaps we need to add a few "sleep 30" commands to the server code occasionally...
I'm gonna' stock up on Depends.
| 757 |
Dustyvet Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:10:19pm |
re: #21 vxbush
No; I'm a cat whisperer. I have fake whiskers and everything.
>^..^< Speak up, I can't hear a thing...nice whiskers...The ears need work...:)
| 759 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:10:39pm |
| 760 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:10:51pm |
re: #757 Dustyvet
>=^..^=< Speak up, I can't hear a thing...nice whiskers...The ears need work...:)
fixed.
| 761 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:10:59pm |
| 762 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:11:11pm |
I am firmly opposed to your forming human pyramids with jihadist prisoners.
Ziggurats... that's the way to go.
| 764 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:11:25pm |
re: #746 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Ahh ... perhaps we should back off this confrontation ... find a bridge over troubled waters or somethin'.
Yes, it is tender tissue.
| 765 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:11:29pm |
re: #751 eschew_obfuscation
Can we do that to congress too?!
Congress? Three words.
Tar.
Feathers.
Rail.
| 767 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:11:34pm |
| 768 |
vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:11:41pm |
re: #757 Dustyvet
^..^< Speak up, I can't hear a thing...nice whiskers...The ears need work...:)
| 770 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:11:59pm |
re: #762 Occasional Reader
I am firmly opposed to your forming human pyramids with jihadist prisoners.
Ziggurats... that's the way to go.
Make them form stars...Jewish stars.
| 772 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:12:33pm |
| 773 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:12:45pm |
| 775 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:12:49pm |
| 776 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:12:56pm |
re: #753 maddogg
My thinking is, if they are going to accuse you of mistreating prisoners anyway, why not make it worth your while?
I'm reminded of one shithead I had to deal with in the Marines who said he was going to bring me up on assault charges. I explained to him the difference between hands on training and assault charges and how far I could actually go with an assault charge. He shut the fuck up and went back to work.
Switching from Infantry to Computer Systems had its benefits
| 777 |
Salamantis Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:13:10pm |
re: #771 jcm
I have yet begun to torture!
I'll make them listen to Yanni!
Or Zamfir and his pan flute.
| 778 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:13:15pm |
| 779 |
Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:13:21pm |
re: #748 WrathofG-d
What they would never do to Arabs, they don't hesitate to do to Jews.
Do not unto others what they would have you do unto Jews./
| 780 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:13:22pm |
re: #754 Ben Hur
Did I break LGF, again?
And I note that all the Jews were warned to stay home from LGF this morning.
COINCIDENCE?!
| 781 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:13:24pm |
re: #774 Hengineer
Star of David.
Thats the one. Sorry I am only married to a Jew, I am not one myself.
| 784 |
lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:13:36pm |
re: #762 Occasional Reader
Have them depict Escher art. For the artistically inclined security guards.
| 785 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:13:39pm |
re: #728 Hengineer
Question: Does Congress pay federal income tax on its salary?
Good question. Here is the answer:
Congress does pay taxes
Members do pay taxes on their Congressional salaries, but they have given themselves some extra perks that elevate them above normal taxpayers.
For example, they wrote into the law a $3,000 annual income tax deduction for maintaining a second residence. Normally, a taxpayer in a lawmaker's income bracket could be subject to reductions in the value of his or her mortgage interest write-off for residences. The typical American who uses an additional residence for business or rental purposes may qualify for certain expense deductions, but only by filing complex forms.
In addition the IRS maintains two "customer service centers" to assist lawmakers and Capitol Hill employees in filling out their tax forms at a cost to taxpayers of $100,000. In 1993 Money Magazine determined that 60 percent of the Members of the House Ways and Means and Senate Finance Committees, who are responsible for our tax laws, didn't even prepare their own tax returns. (For more on the advantages of holding office, see "NTUF Policy Paper 131: Congressional Perks: How the Trappings of Office Trap Taxpayers)
| 786 |
Desert Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:13:41pm |
re: #720 DeafDog
We'll not see any of the financial bailout money back...who knows where that's going. I am deeply disappointed in Bush over this...he has done more bring the USA to socialism and any other President...banking, mortgages, insurance, automobiles...cities have their hands out, newspapers...where does this end? I know HOW is ends...the USA goes bankrupt
| 787 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:14:01pm |
| 788 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:14:14pm |
re: #778 MandyManners
You forgot the pitchforks!
The Tar, Feathers and Rail are for Congress.
The Pitchforks and Torches we keep.
| 789 |
maddogg Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:14:17pm |
re: #776 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm reminded of one shithead I had to deal with in the Marines who said he was going to bring me up on assault charges. I explained to him the difference between hands on training and assault charges and how far I could actually go with an assault charge. He shut the fuck up and went back to work.
Switching from Infantry to Computer Systems had its benefits
There used to be such a thing as NCO justice.
| 790 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:14:17pm |
| 791 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:14:29pm |
| 792 |
quickjustice Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:15:08pm |
The media have become propaganda outlets for the dark side. They are parodies. The N.Y. Times thinks that the horrible death of a store clerk under the feet of a rampaging mob is "Guernica". That's one step short of calling it the "Holocaust". This sort of gross distortion and appalling moral equivalency isn't serious or sane reporting. This is farce masquerading as journalism.
The Onion is becoming a more reliable news source than the N.Y. Times.
| 793 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:15:11pm |
| 794 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:15:11pm |
re: #788 jcm
The Tar, Feathers and Rail are for Congress.
The Pitchforks and Torches we keep.
They'll try to tax them.
| 795 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:15:35pm |
re: #785 DeafDog
Good question. Here is the answer:
Congress does pay taxesMembers do pay taxes on their Congressional salaries, but they have given themselves some extra perks that elevate them above normal taxpayers.
For example, they wrote into the law a $3,000 annual income tax deduction for maintaining a second residence. Normally, a taxpayer in a lawmaker's income bracket could be subject to reductions in the value of his or her mortgage interest write-off for residences. The typical American who uses an additional residence for business or rental purposes may qualify for certain expense deductions, but only by filing complex forms.
In addition the IRS maintains two "customer service centers" to assist lawmakers and Capitol Hill employees in filling out their tax forms at a cost to taxpayers of $100,000. In 1993 Money Magazine determined that 60 percent of the Members of the House Ways and Means and Senate Finance Committees, who are responsible for our tax laws, didn't even prepare their own tax returns. (For more on the advantages of holding office, see "NTUF Policy Paper 131: Congressional Perks: How the Trappings of Office Trap Taxpayers)
The 2nd part doesn't bother me, I don't prepare my own, my father who is a CPA prepares my tax returns (a good thing too, merchant mariner deductions are a tad more complicated than your average bear). The first part is UGH. They have a job where they get to vote in their own raises as well as extra deductions they can make.
| 796 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:15:59pm |
| 797 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:16:14pm |
re: #794 MandyManners
They'll try to tax them.
That's what makes pitchforks and torches so useful.
They'll get the point and feel the heat.
| 798 |
Salamantis Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:16:24pm |
| 799 |
Learned Mother of Zion Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:16:28pm |
| 800 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:16:55pm |
re: #790 Ford_Prefect
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
You all see the violence inherent in the system!
| 801 |
Dustyvet Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:16:59pm |
| 802 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:17:02pm |
re: #799 Alouette
Nude photos of Helen Thomas!
BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH! BRAIN BLEACH!
| 803 |
ClosetConservative Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:17:05pm |
So I'm sitting next to a moonbat, and we're talking about race in politics. A few gems:
"...Hockey mom, ya know, is racist because no black people play hockey. There aren't even any black people in Alaska, except for Palin's pastor, and he's a whackjob. He should go "dewitchify" more witches in Kenya..."
"The "That One" comment was racist, too, because it referred to Obama as "another one", one who wasn't one of us, not one us rich white boys, but he's black, you know, and he might be a foreigner, a Muslim! Arr!"
In regard to how he saw the tone of the McCain ads: "...It seemed just that, like, they were all like "he seems so uppity, so arrogant... "Just all the arrogant comments, they all seemed so RACIST, and one of the McCain guys called Obama uppity, and you know, he's not one of us, he should go back to his place..."
And finally, "I haven't seen anything that's that outrageous..."
My commentry is bolded.
| 806 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:17:30pm |
re: #799 Alouette
Nude photos of Helen Thomas!
Quick, break out the Charisma Carpenter Playboy photos!
| 807 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:17:34pm |
re: #797 jcm
That's what makes pitchforks and torches so useful.
They'll get the point and feel the heat.
Can we make them wear polyester leisure suits? In powder blue?
| 809 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:17:50pm |
| 810 |
zombie Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:17:52pm |
re: #767 eschew_obfuscation
Say "Over" when your done speaking, Over...
When telephones were first used by the public, when people answered calls, both the answerer and the caller said "Ahoy!", not "Hello."
What if, after all these years and all these technological innovations, we still kept the same custom, out of sheer inertia? And what if we kept the old pilot "Roger" sign-off to each statement?
Thus, every single blog comment would need to begin with "Ahoy!" and end with "Roger."
| 812 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:18:04pm |
| 813 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:18:19pm |
re: #789 maddogg
There used to be such a thing as NCO justice.
Still is. Given the choice between 30 minutes of good thrashing or being brought up on charges, most of my Marines chose the thrashing and didn't mess up again. It was the real shits who took the charges and usually kept it up long enough to get in real trouble.
I was King of the Fighting position. Had a guy dig 3 holes in one day. Those were the days.
| 814 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:18:21pm |
| 816 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:18:27pm |
| 817 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:18:33pm |
| 818 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:18:49pm |
re: #803 ClosetConservative
Ain't it amazing what dope does to the brain?
| 819 |
Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:18:54pm |
re: #708 maddogg
Something tells me you are using IE as your browser.
| 820 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:19:08pm |
re: #798 Salamantis
See? I can do sadism, too!
"I can do sadism" ... rotating title, for the LGF marquis?
| 821 |
zombie Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:19:11pm |
Ahoy!
Or maybe "Over" makes more sense, since "Roger" is supposed to be an acknowledgment of a previous statement.
Over.
| 822 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:19:14pm |
| 823 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:19:27pm |
| 824 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:19:37pm |
re: #818 unreconstructed rebel
Ain't it amazing what dope does to the brain?
Ain't it amazing; the brain of a dope.
| 826 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:19:46pm |
re: #810 zombie
When telephones were first used by the public, when people answered calls, both the answerer and the caller said "Ahoy!", not "Hello."
What if, after all these years and all these technological innovations, we still kept the same custom, out of sheer inertia? And what if we kept the old pilot "Roger" sign-off to each statement?
Thus, every single blog comment would need to begin with "Ahoy!" and end with "Roger."
Ahoy. Stop trying to Roger the thread. Roger
| 827 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:19:49pm |
re: #807 MandyManners
Can we make them wear polyester leisure suits? In powder blue?
I did not have one of those when I was 9 years old!
/Uh oh, was that my outside voice?
| 829 |
Salamantis Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:20:09pm |
I'd suggest making them watch Riverdance, but it might only raise their ziggurats...
| 830 |
hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:20:21pm |
re: #821 zombie
Ahoy!
Or maybe "Over" makes more sense, since "Roger" is supposed to be an acknowledgment of a previous statement.
Over.
| 833 |
maddogg Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:20:37pm |
| 834 |
Creeping Eruption Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:20:39pm |
| 837 |
Desert Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:20:53pm |
| 839 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:21:04pm |
| 840 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:21:13pm |
re: #786 Desert Dog
We'll not see any of the financial bailout money back...who knows where that's going. I am deeply disappointed in Bush over this...he has done more bring the USA to socialism and any other President...banking, mortgages, insurance, automobiles...cities have their hands out, newspapers...where does this end? I know HOW is ends...the USA goes bankrupt
I have mixed feelings about the financial bailouts, but we will see at least some of the financial bailout money back. For example, the money leant to Wells Fargo will be returned with interest. It's a 50-50 bet whether the feds actually turn a profit on the overall check. A lot will depend on whether confidence is restored to the system and how quickly.
Bush got the ball rolling with the Financial bailouts, but - to his credit - he is opposing additional monies for the auto industry and did not bail out the airlines.
| 842 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:21:19pm |
re: #811 zombie
Ahoy!
LGF is working really fast for me now.
Roger.
Can't fool us! You're trying to roger the thread!
| 845 |
zombie Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:21:42pm |
Ahoy!
re: #836 buzzsawmonkey
So Mr. Burns in the Simpsons answering the telephone with "Ahoy-hoy" is actually historically accurate.
Cool.
Yes, that was actually a true historical detail.
Over.
| 849 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:22:24pm |
re: #810 zombie
When telephones were first used by the public, when people answered calls, both the answerer and the caller said "Ahoy!", not "Hello."
What if, after all these years and all these technological innovations, we still kept the same custom, out of sheer inertia? And what if we kept the old pilot "Roger" sign-off to each statement?
Thus, every single blog comment would need to begin with "Ahoy!" and end with "Roger."
Loflyer would love this shit.
| 850 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:22:34pm |
re: #827 CyanSnowHawk
I did not have one of those when I was 9 years old!
/Uh oh, was that my outside voice?
With a ruffled shirt? White shoes? Matching belt?
| 851 |
Dustyvet Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:22:55pm |
| 852 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:23:03pm |
| 853 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:23:12pm |
re: #821 zombie
Ahoy!
Or maybe "Over" makes more sense, since "Roger" is supposed to be an acknowledgment of a previous statement.
Over.
You're someone only Loflyer could appreciate!
| 855 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:23:28pm |
Whew. Had some deviled eggs earlier. I feel sorry for my coworkers.
| 856 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:23:34pm |
| 857 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:23:38pm |
re: #795 Hengineer
The 2nd part doesn't bother me, I don't prepare my own, my father who is a CPA prepares my tax returns (a good thing too, merchant mariner deductions are a tad more complicated than your average bear). The first part is UGH. They have a job where they get to vote in their own raises as well as extra deductions they can make.
I've got two words for you to get your blood boiling: Charlie Rangel.
Even with the congressional tax center he somehow 'forgot' about his rental properties in the Dominican Repubublic.
| 858 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:23:52pm |
| 860 |
zombie Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:24:11pm |
Ahoy!
Wikipedia says:
"Ahoy-hoy or ahoy suggested by Alexander Graham Bell as a proper telephone answer."
It stuck briefly but was quickly replaced by "Hello."
Over.
| 861 |
Ben Hur Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:24:17pm |
What's your vector, Victor.
Roger, Roger.
Huh?
| 863 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:24:18pm |
re: #857 DeafDog
I've got two words for you to get your blood boiling: Charlie Rangel.
Even with the congressional tax center he somehow 'forgot' about his rental properties in the Dominican Repubublic.
Rangel always gets my blood boiling. Wasn't he the one talking about grabbing 401k's?
| 864 |
redc1c4 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:24:22pm |
interesting... some folks are blue, some of us ain't.
Racism!
| 865 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:24:22pm |
| 870 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:25:01pm |
Ahoy!
Can you see the wire yet, Brian?
Over.
| 872 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:25:10pm |
re: #855 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Whew. Had some deviled eggs earlier. I feel sorry for my coworkers.
ROFLMAO!
| 873 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:25:18pm |
Proof positive those Christians are dangerous!
/
Police say at 10:53 a.m., the suspect entered the bank, approached the counter, and gave the teller a Bible. The suspect told the teller to flip to a specific page in the Bible, where he had written a note on the page, demanding cash or else he would shoot and kill the teller.
| 874 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:25:24pm |
| 875 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:25:41pm |
re: #850 MandyManners
With a ruffled shirt? White shoes? Matching belt?
Not the ruffled shirt, but the shoes and a wide belt with dual latch buckle and three rows of diamond holes all the way around it.
| 876 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:25:49pm |
| 877 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:25:52pm |
| 879 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:26:19pm |
re: #875 CyanSnowHawk
Not the ruffled shirt, but the shoes and a wide belt with dual latch buckle and three rows of diamond holes all the way around it.
Snazzy!
| 881 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:26:30pm |
re: #875 CyanSnowHawk
Not the ruffled shirt, but the shoes and a wide belt with dual latch buckle and three rows of diamond holes all the way around it.
Platform shoes?
| 882 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:26:30pm |
| 883 |
HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:26:45pm |
| 884 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:26:52pm |
| 885 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:27:16pm |
| 886 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:27:28pm |
| 887 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:27:37pm |
re: #884 MandyManners
I'm giggling.
That's what I heard. I thought the coffee pot was about to explode.
| 889 |
reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:27:55pm |
re: #875 CyanSnowHawk
Pimf...Sounds to me you still have that get up hanging in the closet!
You know...Just in case it comes back in style!
Parish the thought!
LOL
| 890 |
Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:28:04pm |
| 891 |
Salamantis Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:28:05pm |
Mandy's Theme Song:
[Link: blogs.redding.com...]
| 892 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:28:13pm |
Judge re-imposes 22-year sentence on 'Millennium Bomber'
A Seattle federal judge outraged federal prosecutors by reimposing a 22-year sentence on terrorist Ahmed Ressam, who plotted to bomb the Los Angeles airport.Judge John Coughenour said Ressam deserves credit for cooperating with investigators after his arrest nine years ago. He helped convict two co-conspirators and gave information about shoe bombs.
Prosecutors say he stopped helping them after the 2005 sentence and should have a life term. An appeals court had told Coughenour to recalculate the term.
| 894 |
Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:28:21pm |
re: #716 lawhawk
Why not? Better than Morningwood.
| 895 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:28:39pm |
re: #886 MandyManners
I feel a very Brady moment coming over me.
Just watch out for that football, Marsha Mandy.
| 896 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:28:39pm |
re: #885 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Is that damn bug back?
| 897 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:28:41pm |
| 899 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:28:54pm |
That problem with "target="_blank" lacking quotes is fixed now. You'll have to reload to refresh the javascript.
| 901 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:29:43pm |
re: #888 Sharmuta
Your test failed!
It's the absence of quotation marks again.
Hoosier noted it up-thread -- why a link is left off a quoted comment.
What's causing that?
| 902 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:30:02pm |
| 903 |
SummerSong Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:30:06pm |
Well, still less than 1,000 comments - this thread still has room to run.
| 904 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:30:28pm |
re: #863 Hengineer
Rangel always gets my blood boiling. Wasn't he the one talking about grabbing 401k's?
in fairness to Rangel (something that he never shows, btw) it was actually Jim McDermitt from the moonbat state of Washington (my apologies from any LGFers in Washington) who had that brainchild.
| 906 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:30:39pm |
| 907 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:30:47pm |
re: #899 Charles
That problem with "target="_blank" lacking quotes is fixed now. You'll have to reload to refresh the javascript.
Thanks!
Re-loading now.
| 908 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:31:04pm |
re: #881 Ford_Prefect
Platform shoes?
Never got those, but did have some half boots with somewhat tall heels. They went well with the leather jackets popular at the time. I looked like a little Hutch from Starsky and Hutch.
| 909 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:31:05pm |
| 910 |
hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:31:09pm |
re: #903 SummerSong
Well, still less than 1,000 comments - this thread still has room to run.
Thread speaks: "I feel fine!"
| 911 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:31:21pm |
re: #899 Charles
That problem with "target="_blank" lacking quotes is fixed now. You'll have to reload to refresh the javascript.
Cool, thanks, Charles!
BTW, even in IE, with over 900 comments to this thread, LGF is zooming along faster than a greased pig on a slip and slide.
| 912 |
zombie Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:31:42pm |
Ahoy!
Here's an interesting page tracing the Ahoy vs. Hello rivalry.
Alexander Graham Bell advocated "Ahoy." Thomas Edison a couple years later advocated a new word that he coined: "Hello."
Edison won. And we're still saying "Hello" today.
NPR has a page about it too.
What's amazing is that Hello was originally designed for use only on telephones! It's non-telephone use came later!
Over.
| 915 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:32:00pm |
| 917 |
Wyatt Earp Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:32:16pm |
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
| 918 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:32:25pm |
| 919 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:32:32pm |
| 920 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:32:35pm |
re: #911 Honorary Yooper
Cool, thanks, Charles!
BTW, even in IE, with over 900 comments to this thread, LGF is zooming along faster than a greased pig on a slip and slide.
And I thought that was Salma Hayek on the slip & slide!
| 922 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:32:49pm |
re: #911 Honorary Yooper
Cool, thanks, Charles!
BTW, even in IE, with over 900 comments to this thread, LGF is zooming along faster than a greased pig on a slip and slide.
Have you ever seen a greased pig on a slip and slide?
| 923 |
Nevergiveup Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:33:00pm |
re: #912 zombie
Ahoy!
Here's an interesting page tracing the Ahoy vs. Hello rivalry.
Alexander Graham Bell advocated "Ahoy." Thomas Edison a couple years later advocated a new word that he coined: "Hello."
Edison won. And we're still saying "Hello" today.
NPR has a page about it too.
What's amazing is that Hello was originally designed for use only on telephones! It's non-telephone use came later!
Over.
So I guess the greeting of "How's it hanging" never had a chance?
| 924 |
Buck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:33:01pm |
re: #860 zombie
Ahoy!
Wikipedia says:
"Ahoy-hoy or ahoy suggested by Alexander Graham Bell as a proper telephone answer."
It stuck briefly but was quickly replaced by "Hello."
Over.
I know that because I watch Simpsopns
Television is wonderful, is there anything it can't do?
| 925 |
Learned Mother of Zion Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:33:15pm |
re: #825 buzzsawmonkey
I will repeat, for those who have missed it, that Helen Thomas resembles no-one so much as Danny DeVito in his role as the Penguin.
Danny DeVito is much hotter.
| 926 |
lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:33:16pm |
re: #904 DeafDog
Rangel was just the guy who kept claiming that Bush would reinstate the draft. Rangel has also called for tax increases, and wants the Bush tax cuts to expire.
| 927 |
Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:33:18pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Congratulations- and a beautiful name too!
| 928 |
Outrider Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:33:21pm |
re: #821 zombie
Ahoy!
Or maybe "Over" makes more sense, since "Roger" is supposed to be an acknowledgment of a previous statement.
Over.
"Roger" is a radio acknowledgment. "Over" is used when you are finished talking for the moment. "Out" is used when the conversation is over and is stated by the initiating party. ;-)>
| 929 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:33:27pm |
re: #840 DeafDog
I have mixed feelings about the financial bailouts, but we will see at least some of the financial bailout money back. For example, the money leant to Wells Fargo will be returned with interest. It's a 50-50 bet whether the feds actually turn a profit on the overall check. A lot will depend on whether confidence is restored to the system and how quickly.
Bush got the ball rolling with the Financial bailouts, but - to his credit - he is opposing additional monies for the auto industry and did not bail out the airlines.
I saw a bumper sticker today- "Work Hard- millions of Obama Supporters are counting on you to pay their credit card bills!"
The other side of the car said "My piggy bank needs a bailout"
| 930 |
Nevergiveup Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:33:38pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
Congratulations! I have 2 daughters. Enjoy!
| 931 |
lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:33:38pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
Mazel tov!
| 932 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:33:40pm |
re: #899 Charles
That problem with "target="_blank" lacking quotes is fixed now. You'll have to reload to refresh the javascript.
That got the little sucker!
Thank you very much!
| 933 |
SummerSong Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:33:43pm |
The market is schizophrenic...
ENER has been good for a mood swing.
| 935 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:34:03pm |
| 936 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:34:06pm |
| 938 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:34:10pm |
re: #889 reloadingisnotahobby
Pimf...Sounds to me you still have that get up hanging in the closet!
You know...Just in case it comes back in style!
Parish the thought!
LOL
I could probably just about buckle that belt around my thigh now.
| 940 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:34:36pm |
| 941 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:34:40pm |
re: #906 Soona'
Shades of Airplane.
Surely you can't be serious
I am serious and don't calling me Shirley
| 942 |
Wyatt Earp Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:35:12pm |
| 943 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:35:12pm |
| 944 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:35:15pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
CONGRATULATIONS!
WOOT!
| 945 |
NomadOfNorad Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:35:16pm |
re: #717 Jewels (AKA Julian)
fnord
If you can see the fnord he will eat you. If you cannot see the fnord he will not eat you.
| 946 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:35:26pm |
| 948 |
Kenneth Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:35:50pm |
| 950 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:35:52pm |
re: #912 zombie
What's amazing is that Hello was originally designed for use only on telephones! It's non-telephone use came later!
In Spanish speaking countries, isn't the universal greeting "bueno," meaning "good."
| 952 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:36:06pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
CONGRATULATIONS!
| 953 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:36:34pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
*skyrockets*
| 954 |
Nevergiveup Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:37:02pm |
| 956 |
hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:37:11pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Congratulations, Wyatt & Mrs! Blessings on your family!
| 958 |
Creeping Eruption Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:37:18pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
Mazal Tov
| 960 |
HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:37:26pm |
re: #922 Ford_Prefect
Have you ever seen a greased pig on a slip and slide?
No..They keep eating it..
| 961 |
littleO Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:37:40pm |
Communist when proceeding in revolution prod until they meet resistence and then either proceed more gingerly, or find a new path.
Isn't Obama, by structuring a apparent centrist regime, merely being systematic?
His true objectives will become more evident in a year when new faces will cycle into key positions.
This new administation is truly transitional.
| 963 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:37:44pm |
re: #936 MandyManners
That's very clever!
The scary thing is I know most of Allan Sherman's popular songs by heart. I was a weird kid, I had all his albums in the 60's.
| 964 |
Wyatt Earp Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:37:45pm |
| 965 |
hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:37:59pm |
re: #955 Soona'
Roger, roger. Over, over.
I just wanted to say, "Good Luck! and we're all counting on you!"
| 968 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:38:48pm |
re: #963 Walter L. Newton
The scary thing is I know most of Allan Sherman's popular songs by heart. I was a weird kid, I had all his albums in the 60's.
I've never heard of him until today.
| 969 |
lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:38:50pm |
Ahoy
Hello
Oy vey
Run for the hills
A natural tonal progression.
| 970 |
Wyatt Earp Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:39:00pm |
re: #957 MandyManners
How's the mother?
The missus is good, if not tired (understandably.) Last night was rough, because the baby came so quickly that she missed her chance at an epidural.
| 971 |
Ben Hur Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:39:02pm |
When telephones first were used by the public, only evil rich people were able to afford them.
So they were taxed, you see, in order to "tax the rich."
Of course they never recinded the taxes on phones and you still see them on your bill today.
| 972 |
SummerSong Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:39:09pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
That's wonderful! The best to all of you.
| 973 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:39:10pm |
re: #929 DisturbedEma
I saw a bumper sticker today- "Work Hard- millions of Obama Supporters are counting on you to pay their credit card bills!"
Classic
| 975 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:39:43pm |
| 976 |
vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:39:45pm |
re: #948 Kenneth
WOW! Congratulations! That's Fantastic!
Three Cheers for Wee Julia!
HIP HIP HOORAY!
| 977 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:39:48pm |
re: #961 littleO
Communist when proceeding in revolution prod until they meet resistence and then either proceed more gingerly, or find a new path.
Isn't Obama, by structuring a apparent centrist regime, merely being systematic?
His true objectives will become more evident in a year when new faces will cycle into key positions.
This new administation is truly transitional.
So, you think that unlike the Bull in the China Shop Clinton's, we are gonna get a stealth presidency?
| 978 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:39:58pm |
| 979 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:40:01pm |
re: #965 hermit
I just wanted to say, "Good Luck! and we're all counting on you!"
Stewardess, I speak Jive
| 980 |
HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:40:10pm |
| 982 |
Wyatt Earp Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:40:12pm |
re: #967 buzzsawmonkey
But since delivery took more than 30 minutes, it should be free.
Her OB/GYN had to be paged (it was midnight) and she arrived a few minutes after Julia was born. There goes her doctor's fees!
| 983 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:40:28pm |
re: #968 MandyManners
I've never heard of him until today.
Really. You must of heard the Camp Granada song! (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah")
| 984 |
Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:40:29pm |
re: #963 Walter L. Newton
The scary thing is I know most of Allan Sherman's popular songs by heart. I was a weird kid, I had all his albums in the 60's.
OK, then, a little test:
Who stole the kishka, and from where?
| 985 |
SummerSong Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:40:37pm |
re: #963 Walter L. Newton
The scary thing is I know most of Allan Sherman's popular songs by heart. I was a weird kid, I had all his albums in the 60's.
My husband's father has those ::shudder:: and seemed to play them at every opportunity.
| 986 |
razorbacker Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:40:58pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
Well, happy days to you!
Apropos of nothing at all, someone (Bill Cosby?) claimed if you pinch their nose and blow into their mouth that you can 'pop' that thingy out and have a boy.
Accounting, no doubt, for all those bug-eyed little girls running around.
| 989 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:41:10pm |
re: #970 Wyatt Earp
The missus is good, if not tired (understandably.) Last night was rough, because the baby came so quickly that she missed her chance at an epidural.
Oh, egads! I don't know how women do it without one.
| 990 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:41:19pm |
re: #984 Spare O'Lake
OK, then, a little test:
Who stole the kishka, and from where?
When I Was A Lad
| 991 |
Wyatt Earp Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:41:26pm |
re: #978 Ford_Prefect
If your NICU is anything like the one my daughter was in, then she is in great hands.
Just talked to the missus a few minutes ago. Julia will be out of NICU tomorrow. Just precautionary. A weight off our chests.
Best part? We think she's a redhead . . . like our oldest son.
| 992 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:41:49pm |
re: #965 hermit
I just wanted to say, "Good Luck! and we're all counting on you!"
"I guess I picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue".
| 994 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:41:57pm |
re: #983 Walter L. Newton
Really. You must of heard the Camp Granada song! (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah")
That's he?
| 995 |
HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:42:07pm |
re: #980 HoosierHoops
Quote with comment disappeared again...OK who is the wiseguy?
| 996 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:42:15pm |
re: #982 Wyatt Earp
Her OB/GYN had to be paged (it was midnight) and she arrived a few minutes after Julia was born. There goes her doctor's fees!
No see, that is the beauty of the sliding scale fee- You pay the same whether or not you get a doc or not!
They "bundle" the visits and prenatal tests into one "easy to manage" end of pregnancy fee. . .so even if said doc in my town is drinking coffee in the lounge while I push out my kid. he gets paid just like her was there!
| 997 |
Wyatt Earp Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:42:29pm |
re: #989 MandyManners
Oh, egads! I don't know how women do it without one.
Lost of screaming and crying. It's tough when you can't do anything for her. I just stood there holding her hand like an idiot.
| 998 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:42:47pm |
re: #964 Wyatt Earp
re: #953 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Thanks, guys. Total time of delivery? 35 minutes. I told her she can't use the, "When I was in labor with your for 48 hours . . ." guilt trip.
That's good news too. My daughter came fast. Fortunately, my ex's gynecologist's office was RIGHT across the street from the hospital. As he hurried into L&D, the nurses were holding the gown open for him to step into it. (Literally!)
| 999 |
Nevergiveup Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:42:52pm |
JEWISH WORLD / Obama must help Israel break its territorial addiction
By Alex Sinclair
Tags: JEWISH WORLD, Alex Sinclair
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
The Author of this piece of shit makes me ashamed to be Jewish! This is an example of the 75% Jewish moonbat vote. I can't stand to be the presence of assholes like this anymore. Which is why I am on here amongst semi-sane people!
| 1000 |
hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:42:59pm |
re: #992 Soona'
"I guess I picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue".
Classic! I love Zucker's stuff. Timeless!
| 1001 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:43:02pm |
re: #988 ploome hineni
they don;t care
and union people think they deserve evrything they get!
"If you can't beat 'em - join 'em."
| 1002 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:43:14pm |
re: #991 Wyatt Earp
Just talked to the missus a few minutes ago. Julia will be out of NICU tomorrow. Just precautionary. A weight off our chests.
Best part? We think she's a redhead . . . like our oldest son.
Talking to a friend the other day, he has a boy and a girl. He said that as great as having a son is, there is nothing like having a girl. I only have the one so all I can say is it's great!
| 1003 |
Outrider Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:43:22pm |
re: #997 Wyatt Earp
Lost of screaming and crying. It's tough when you can't do anything for her. I just stood there holding her hand like an idiot.
...and getting it crushed like it was in a vice?
| 1004 |
Wyatt Earp Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:43:25pm |
| 1005 |
jcm Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:43:29pm |
re: #997 Wyatt Earp
Lost of screaming and crying. It's tough when you can't do anything for her. I just stood there holding her hand like an idiot.
You didn't faint, that's a big help. Dad fainting causes all kinds of extra work.
| 1007 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:43:36pm |
| 1008 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:43:41pm |
re: #928 Outrider
"Roger" is a radio acknowledgment. "Over" is used when you are finished talking for the moment. "Out" is used when the conversation is over and is stated by the initiating party. ;-)>
Didn't know that it mattered who started it. In boot camp, ca. '82, they told us, 'Over' means you want a response, 'Out' means you don't. And saying 'Over and Out' means your stupid.
| 1009 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:43:52pm |
re: #977 unreconstructed rebel
So, you think that unlike the Bull in the China Shop Clinton's, we are gonna get a stealth presidency?
Oh yes. Verrry stealthy. They must be watched 24/7.
| 1010 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:43:52pm |
re: #994 MandyManners
That's he?
Yep. He was a stand up comedian, wrote for sitcoms and other comedians and wrote nonsense lyrics to popular tunes.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
My Son, the Folk Singer (1962)
More Folk Songs by Allan Sherman and His Friends (1962) [pirated album]
My Son, the Celebrity (1963)
My Son, the Nut (1963)
Allan in Wonderland (1964)
Peter and the Commissar (1964)
For Swingin' Livers Only (1964) (a play on Sinatra's album title Songs for Swingin' Lovers)
My Name is Allan (1965)
Live! (Hoping You Are The Same) (1966)
Togetherness (1967)
Best of Allan Sherman (Posthumous, 1979)
My Son, The Greatest (Posthumous, 1990)
My Son, The Box (Posthumous, 2005)
| 1011 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:44:00pm |
re: #989 MandyManners
Oh, egads! I don't know how women do it without one.
SCREAM! I did, and I TAPED THE DELIVERIES. . .for that visual guilt so lacking in those birth stories
| 1012 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:44:05pm |
re: #997 Wyatt Earp
Lost of screaming and crying. It's tough when you can't do anything for her. I just stood there holding her hand like an idiot.
She didn't offer to render you neutered?
| 1013 |
rawmuse Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:44:19pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Congratulations! You must be very proud.
| 1014 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:44:34pm |
re: #991 Wyatt Earp
Congratulations on the good news!
| 1015 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:44:54pm |
re: #999 Nevergiveup
JEWISH WORLD / Obama must help Israel break its territorial addiction
By Alex Sinclair
Tags: JEWISH WORLD, Alex Sinclair
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
The Author of this piece of shit makes me ashamed to be Jewish! This is an example of the 75% Jewish moonbat vote. I can't stand to be the presence of assholes like this anymore. Which is why I am on here amongst semi-sane people!
TERRITORIAL ADDICTION?
| 1016 |
Buck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:44:57pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
Mazal Tov.
Now get out there and buy diapers, creams, formula, crib, stroller...
The economy needs you!
| 1017 |
debutaunt Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:45:03pm |
re: #909 MandyManners
How do you do that? Everyone can see the link except me.
| 1018 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:45:03pm |
re: #997 Wyatt Earp
Lost of screaming and crying. It's tough when you can't do anything for her. I just stood there holding her hand like an idiot.
What was she doing while you were screaming and crying?
| 1019 |
Wyatt Earp Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:45:07pm |
| 1021 |
solomonpanting Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:45:39pm |
The only gunman captured during the terror attack on Mumbai says he was promised that his impoverished family would get $1,250 if he died fighting for militant Islam, security officials said Wednesday.
Why, that must be at least $50 for every life he took.
| 1022 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:45:40pm |
re: #995 HoosierHoops
Quote with comment disappeared again...OK who is the wiseguy?
Do a page refresh.
javascript's been fixed.
| 1023 |
Wyatt Earp Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:45:50pm |
re: #1016 Buck
Mazal Tov.
Now get out there and buy diapers, creams, formula, crib, stroller...
The economy needs you!
No worries. My youngest son will be ten months old next week. We're cornering the baby market.
| 1024 |
nyc redneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:45:51pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
i'm so happy for you and your wife.
and bless that little darling.
| 1025 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:45:58pm |
re: #1015 MandyManners
TERRITORIAL ADDICTION?
Yep- the territory needed to keep Israel viable. . .worse than H it is so addictive
///
| 1026 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:45:59pm |
re: #917 Wyatt Earp
Sorry, but a little OT: My wife gave birth to a beauty baby girl last night. Julia Elizabeth, 6 pounds, 14 ounces. I only mention it because when I said she was 4cm dilated on Monday's Open Thread, a lot of you said "Get ready!" You were right!
Mazel to the Tov, man!
| 1028 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:46:15pm |
re: #995 HoosierHoops
Quote with comment disappeared again...OK who is the wiseguy?
I've been getting that too.
| 1029 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:46:27pm |
re: #1020 vxbush
No, that's my line, but in my case it was 43 hours.
So if you just held out a little longer, you could have bypassed the Terrible Twos altogether.
| 1031 |
littleO Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:47:12pm |
re#977 unreconstructed rebel:
can't you see in the future susan rice moving to NSA and the military leadership moving on 'to spend more time with their families? and like under b. clinton, the CIA director not being able to even get a meeting?
| 1032 |
Desert Dog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:47:16pm |
re: #1021 solomonpanting
That is wonderful...I hope he names the people that promised to pay him that whopping sum...unbelieveable
| 1033 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:47:28pm |
re: #1020 vxbush
No, that's my line, but in my case it was 43 hours.
*OUCH*
/not a bit of sarc intended!
| 1034 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:47:33pm |
re: #934 Wyatt Earp
Very good for you. Congrats.
| 1036 |
GordonShumway Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:47:52pm |
| 1038 |
Outrider Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:48:23pm |
re: #1008 CyanSnowHawk
Didn't know that it mattered who started it. In boot camp, ca. '82, they told us, 'Over' means you want a response, 'Out' means you don't. And saying 'Over and Out' means your stupid.
not to put too fine a point on it. If A calls B, only A can say "out" as he initiated the call. If B were to say "out" then he would be terminating the transmission before A was finished. In the case of a request for fire support can you imagine the pilot saying "out" before the requester completed the request? "out" gives the rest of the net "permission" to come on or one of the parties to switch to another net if needed. sorry for the verbosity.
| 1039 |
nylecoj Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:48:34pm |
re: #151 Erik The Red
Logged in. Hello all Lizards that can read this. Charles thank you for all you do to keep your site running fast and smoothly. Today must be very frustrating. It makes me very greatfull for what you do.
Exactly! Thank-you Charles.
And thank-you Erik for saying so.
| 1040 |
Nevergiveup Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:48:42pm |
Terrorists Say They'll Fight Somali Pirates
—Ace
Gotta say I'm on the pirates' side here.
The irony in this story is thicker than Rosie O’Donnell’s thigh. A hijacked Saudi tanker, the Sirius Star, taken by pirates off the coast of Somalia last week, is being threatened by Islamic militants who say they will “rescue” the ship from the pirates. Stating the hijacking is a crime against Islam (and really, what isn’t these days?), members of the Somali Islamist group al-Shabab arrived in the town of Harardhere to battle the pirates.
[Link: ace.mu.nu...]
I'd buy tickets to watch this fight. I just don't know who to root for?
| 1041 |
Wyatt Earp Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:48:44pm |
Thanks again, everyone. I'd ove to stay and chat, but I have only had four hours sleep in the past two days, and the three boys are looking at me with the "Feed me" eyes. Have a great day!
| 1042 |
lawhawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:48:55pm |
re: #1021 solomonpanting
Why, that must be at least $50 for every life he took.
Actually, with 170 dead, you're looking at $7 per murdered victim.
Now consider that this animal claimed that their goal was to kill 5,000 people.
That means he put the value on human life at 25 cents each.
| 1043 |
neocon hippie Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:49:44pm |
I grew up listening to Allan Sherman in my suburban Jewish household in the 1960's. I have a distinct memory of my mother exclaiming about him: "He looks like the TV repairman!"
| 1044 |
Buck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:49:49pm |
re: #1023 Wyatt Earp
No worries. My youngest son will be ten months old next week. We're cornering the baby market.
Oh No! 10 months in between? You need to give that girl a BREAK.
Tell her from me that when she gets out of the hospital she should take one aspirin a day just before bed for 3 years... She should take the aspirin every night and place it firmly between her KNEES.
And you! Get off that poor girl!
| 1045 |
NomadOfNorad Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:49:50pm |
re: #945 NomadOfNorad
If you can see the fnord he will eat you. If you cannot see the fnord he will not eat you.
Grrr... methinks Zombie needs to post a revision to the Invis-O-Text code he posted at the end of this thread. It needs to be changed to a lighter color.
| 1046 |
vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:49:54pm |
re: #1029 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
So if you just held out a little longer, you could have bypassed the Terrible Twos altogether.
Darn! A missed opportunity!
| 1047 |
Learned Mother of Zion Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:50:04pm |
re: #1035 buzzsawmonkey
"Addiction to territory?" Hey, if a country is not "addicted" to its territory, it ceases to exist.
Israel has won the disputed territory by force of arms at least one time more than any nation which has acquired territory from a belligerent enemy has ever had to.
I say, let Israel keep its "addiction to territory," and let the 12-steppers of international politics set about weaning the Arabs from their addiction to genocidal fantasy, and to seeking victory by whine that they cannot win by war.
Let the 12-steppers wean themselves from their addiction to ignoring the real problem, and from their addiction to the goal of dismembering Israel to appease the unappeasable.
Jews must give up their addiction to staying alive.
| 1048 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:50:37pm |
re: #999 Nevergiveup
"Obama must help Israel break its territorial addiction to breathing"
Does that work better?
/
| 1049 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:50:44pm |
re: #999 Nevergiveup
JEWISH WORLD / Obama must help Israel break its territorial addiction
By Alex Sinclair
Tags: JEWISH WORLD, Alex Sinclair
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
The Author of this piece of shit makes me ashamed to be Jewish! This is an example of the 75% Jewish moonbat vote. I can't stand to be the presence of assholes like this anymore. Which is why I am on here amongst semi-sane people!
I wonder if the author thinks Lebanon should give up its territorial addiction and allow palestinians in its refugee camps to hold jobs, own businesses, and own property?
/yeah...I didn't think so
| 1050 |
Silvergirl Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:50:47pm |
re: #206 lawhawk
Whiplash Obama strikes. Never mind on those windfall profits taxes.
He went from floating like a butterfly (with all the feel good election promises) to stinging like a bee (when reality impales the heart of The Left).
I thought I saw a falling angel earlier; now it's more of a plummet.
"Barry Angel, how I love him
How I tingle when he passes by
Every time he says hello
My heart begins to fly."
Heave a sigh for unrequited love.
| 1051 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:51:22pm |
re: #1008 CyanSnowHawk
Didn't know that it mattered who started it. In boot camp, ca. '82, they told us, 'Over' means you want a response, 'Out' means you don't. And saying 'Over and Out' means your stupid.
When of my platoon sergeants would ask for radio checks, and when someone would say "I read you loud and clear, over" he'd say "YOU READ COMIC BOOKS, YOU DUMB SHIT. HOW DO YOU HEAR ME?"
| 1052 |
vxbush Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:51:34pm |
re: #1033 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*OUCH*
/not a bit of sarc intended!
And no pain drugs. My body simply has no clue how to do labor properly.
| 1053 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:52:31pm |
re: #1036 GordonShumway
I've grown accustomed to this place...
Zionism as a controlled substance. . .sigh
///
| 1054 |
Outrider Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:52:37pm |
re: #1040 Nevergiveup
Terrorists Say They'll Fight Somali Pirates
—AceGotta say I'm on the pirates' side here.
The irony in this story is thicker than Rosie O’Donnell’s thigh. A hijacked Saudi tanker, the Sirius Star, taken by pirates off the coast of Somalia last week, is being threatened by Islamic militants who say they will “rescue” the ship from the pirates. Stating the hijacking is a crime against Islam (and really, what isn’t these days?), members of the Somali Islamist group al-Shabab arrived in the town of Harardhere to battle the pirates.
[Link: ace.mu.nu...]
I'd buy tickets to watch this fight. I just don't know who to root for?
Pirates. Profit is their only motive-merely a business.
| 1055 |
NomadOfNorad Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:52:48pm |
re: #1045 NomadOfNorad
On the other hand, when I replied to my own message just now, it showed the complex code I'd entered had been converted into simple < i > text here < / i > stuff... :-%P%
Did Charles disable the fancy code stuff some while back?
| 1056 |
solomonpanting Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:53:07pm |
re: #1032 Desert Dog
That is wonderful...I hope he names the people that promised to pay him that whopping sum...unbelieveable
Yeah, I hope he drones on and on.
re: #1042 lawhawk
Actually, with 170 dead, you're looking at $7 per murdered victim.
Now consider that this animal claimed that their goal was to kill 5,000 people.
That means he put the value on human life at 25 cents each.
Well, I figured he took at least 20 by himself, not all 170.
Maybe the Indian Government could pay him $3,000 to name names.
| 1057 |
Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:53:16pm |
Aww Hell! I finally get in and now I have to go. Wyatt, congrats again.
Later Lizards!
| 1058 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:53:45pm |
re: #1040 Nevergiveup
Terrorists Say They'll Fight Somali Pirates
—Ace
Can we throw the Ninjas in there, just for good measure?
| 1059 |
razorbacker Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:53:49pm |
re: #999 Nevergiveup
JEWISH WORLD / Obama must help Israel break its territorial addiction
By Alex Sinclair
Tags: JEWISH WORLD, Alex Sinclair
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]
The Author of this piece of shit makes me ashamed to be Jewish! This is an example of the 75% Jewish moonbat vote. I can't stand to be the presence of assholes like this anymore. Which is why I am on here amongst semi-sane people!
Let me see if I understand this.
You've got a country so small that an indifferent gunman can stand on one side and hit someone on the other side. A country with the sea on one side and a sworn enemy on the other side. A nation so small that Lance Armstrong would go from one end to the other on a light training day.
And y'all are supposed to give up land?
I'm glad that old boy is on your side. He sounds like he could be dangerous, were he an enemy.
Our friend ? President Obama ? needs to make the intervention for us, with the support by our family, the American Jewish community.
If Obama wants to be a true friend, he must put his hand on our shoulder and tell us to stop. He must take the bottle out of our hand. He must re-assure us that he loves us and cares for us, that he will continue to support us, but that he wants us to come out of this funk and live up to our potential.
Obama must tell us in clear terms how harmful our activities and behavior are to ourselves, to our friends, and to those around us. He must tell us what we need to do and what will no longer be tolerated. And he must help us carry out that program.
Like all alcoholics, it will not be easy to stop. We will have withdrawal symptoms. We will shake, we will convulse, we will vomit. We will blame others. We will shout and scream. We will try, through any means, to find a way to get to that hidden bottle of alcohol or to stop it being taken away from us. But our friend, Obama, must not waver. He must know that the intervention is not just good for us - it is the only way to save us. Because like every alcoholic, we are increasingly faced with a choice: Escape the addiction or let the addition kill us.
| 1060 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:53:50pm |
re: #1047 Alouette
Jews must give up their addiction to staying alive.
Just say no to the addictive drug Zionism. . .///
| 1061 |
Nevergiveup Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:54:24pm |
re: #1054 Outrider
Pirates. Profit is their only motive-merely a business.
Good point. But still these are Muslim pirates so?
| 1062 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:54:24pm |
You Went The Wrong Way, Old King Louie (Allan Sherman)
Louis the Sixteenth was the King of France in 1789.
He was worse than Louis the Fifteenth.
He was worse than Louis the Fourteenth.
He was worse than Louis the Thirteenth.
He was the worst since Louis the First.
King Louis was living like a king, but the people were living rotten.
So the people, they started an uprising which they called the
French Revolution, and of course you remember their battle cry,
which will never be forgotten:
You went the wrong way, Old King Louie.
You made the population cry.
'Cause all you did was sit and pet
With Marie Antoinette
In your place at Versailles.
And now the country's gone kablooie.
So we are giving you the air.
That oughta teach you not to
Spend all your time fooling 'round
At the Folies Bergere.
If you had been a nicer king,
We wouldn't do a thing,
But you were bad, you must admit.
We're gonna take you and the Queen
Down to the guillotine,
And shorten you a little bit.
You came the wrong way, Old King Louie.
And now you ain't got far to go.
Too bad you won't be here to see
That great big Eiffel Tower,
Or Brigitte Bardot.
To you King Louie we say fooey.
You disappointed all of France.
But then what else could we expect
From a king in silk stockings
And pink satin pants.
You filled your stomach with chop suey.
And also crepe suzettes and steak.
And when they told your wife Marie
That nobody had bread, she said
"Let 'em eat cake."
We're gonna take you and the Queen
Down to the guillotine,
It's somewhere in the heart of town.
And when that fella's through
With what he's gonna do,
You'll have no place to hang your crown.
You came the wrong way Old King Louie.
Now we must put you on the shelf.
That's why the people are revolting, 'cause Louie,
You're pretty revolting yourself
| 1063 |
Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:55:02pm |
ok- I think I found my favorite lol catz ever.
| 1064 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:55:27pm |
re: #997 Wyatt Earp
Lost of screaming and crying. It's tough when you can't do anything for her. I just stood there holding her hand like an idiot.
Congrats Wyatt.
I was in the delivery room for our son being delivered C-Section. I had the video camera on my wife's face, and she says very clearly, "Shoot the baby." I did manage to get the doc taking him out, then I got my son peeing on the nurse.
| 1065 |
Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:56:07pm |
re: #995 HoosierHoops
Did you refresh the page as Charles instructed?
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Outrider Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:56:15pm |
re: #1061 Nevergiveup
Good point. But still these are Muslim pirates so?
true. if given a choice between the two though.
| 1067 |
hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:56:27pm |
re: #1052 vxbush
And no pain drugs. My body simply has no clue how to do labor properly.
Once I started teaching, ...found out about Cuisenaire Rods (centimeter based),...and SAW the 10 CM rod, called the long... thought about dilation and well,...*dead faint*
| 1068 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:56:53pm |
re: #1063 Sharmuta
ok- I think I found my favorite lol catz ever.
I always preferred the demotivation posters
| 1069 |
Soona' Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:56:57pm |
re: #1040 Nevergiveup
Terrorists Say They'll Fight Somali Pirates
—AceGotta say I'm on the pirates' side here.
The irony in this story is thicker than Rosie O’Donnell’s thigh. A hijacked Saudi tanker, the Sirius Star, taken by pirates off the coast of Somalia last week, is being threatened by Islamic militants who say they will “rescue” the ship from the pirates. Stating the hijacking is a crime against Islam (and really, what isn’t these days?), members of the Somali Islamist group al-Shabab arrived in the town of Harardhere to battle the pirates.
[Link: ace.mu.nu...]
I'd buy tickets to watch this fight. I just don't know who to root for?
It would be like watch a football game between Cincinnati and Detroit.
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littleO Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:57:05pm |
I remember holding my newborn son. Remarkable, indiscribable feeling. Now he's 6'2 and 260lbs. (not really fat,either). Couldn't hold him now if my life depended on it. Enjoy it while ya' can.
| 1071 |
lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:57:12pm |
re: #999 Nevergiveup
JEWISH WORLD / Obama must help Israel break its territorial addiction
His light is on but nobody is home. He'd be better off if he was addicted to love.
| 1072 |
Nevergiveup Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:57:23pm |
MOSCOW (AP) - A Russian warship will sail through the Panama Canal this week for the first time since World War II, the navy announced Wednesday, pushing ahead with a symbolic projection of Moscow's power in a traditional U.S. zone of influence.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
Anyone know Jimmah's address so I can send him a carefully worded thank-you note?
| 1073 |
hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:58:13pm |
re: #1068 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I always preferred the demotivation posters
Adore the last one! I use that with my students...Wishing, I think it's called! LOLROFL
| 1074 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:58:52pm |
re: #1051 Soona'
When of my platoon sergeants would ask for radio checks, and when someone would say "I read you loud and clear, over" he'd say "YOU READ COMIC BOOKS, YOU DUMB SHIT. HOW DO YOU HEAR ME?"
Can you hear me now?
| 1075 |
wrenchwench Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:59:10pm |
re: #1070 littleO
I remember holding my newborn son. Remarkable, indiscribable feeling. Now he's 6'2 and 260lbs. (not really fat,either). Couldn't hold him now if my life depended on it. Enjoy it while ya' can.
He must be bigO.
| 1076 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 12:59:17pm |
Oil at $46.17/bbl. Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999. Well, late 2003, anyway.
| 1079 |
Buck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:00:18pm |
re: #1040 Nevergiveup
Terrorists Say They'll Fight Somali Pirates
—AceGotta say I'm on the pirates' side here.
The irony in this story is thicker than Rosie O’Donnell’s thigh. A hijacked Saudi tanker, the Sirius Star, taken by pirates off the coast of Somalia last week, is being threatened by Islamic militants who say they will “rescue” the ship from the pirates. Stating the hijacking is a crime against Islam (and really, what isn’t these days?), members of the Somali Islamist group al-Shabab arrived in the town of Harardhere to battle the pirates.
[Link: ace.mu.nu...]
I'd buy tickets to watch this fight. I just don't know who to root for?
Stick to the code,
Parlay?
| 1082 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:01:34pm |
re: #1079 Buck
Stick to the code,
Parlay?
The next person to say parlay I'll use his innards are garters. . .
| 1083 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:01:58pm |
| 1084 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:02:07pm |
re: #1076 Occasional Reader
Oil at $46.17/bbl. Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999. Well, late 2003, anyway.
The predicitions I've seen is for Oil will fall below $40 by 1st quarter of 2009, and stay below $50 until last quarter of 2009, decimating the domestic domestic industry. Will they ask for - or get - a bailout?
Towards the end of 2009, the price will start to rebound to a range of $75 -$90 by the end of 2010 - setting up for a nice campaign issue for 2010 election. Then, we will get another explosion in prices, setting up for an even nicer presidential campaign issue for 2012.
| 1085 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:02:10pm |
re: #1072 Nevergiveup
MOSCOW (AP) - A Russian warship will sail through the Panama Canal this week for the first time since World War II, the navy announced Wednesday, pushing ahead with a symbolic projection of Moscow's power in a traditional U.S. zone of influence.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
Anyone know Jimmah's address so I can send him a carefully worded thank-you note?
Oh, I don't know. I'd hate to be the Russian skipper caught on Lake Gatun should hostilities break out.
| 1086 |
solomonpanting Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:02:16pm |
re: #1076 Occasional Reader
Oil at $46.17/bbl. Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1999. Well, late 2003, anyway.
Here's one response to lower oil prices.
| 1087 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:02:16pm |
re: #1070 littleO
I remember holding my newborn son. Remarkable, indiscribable feeling. Now he's 6'2 and 260lbs. (not really fat,either). Couldn't hold him now if my life depended on it. Enjoy it while ya' can.
And don't forget to stash the blackmail photos. We have plenty lined up for when little Hawk gets too uppity.
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:02:38pm |
Men's magazine loses 130,000 inflatable breasts
Oh, the humanity!
| 1089 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:03:16pm |
| 1090 |
bosforus Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:04:05pm |
How did I miss this candidate during the election?
I love this video.
The Onion
[Link: www.theonion.com...]
| 1091 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:04:16pm |
re: #1088 Kenneth
Men's magazine loses 130,000 inflatable breasts
Oh, the humanity!
Did they check the rack?
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:04:19pm |
re: #1084 DeafDog
Towards the end of 2009, the price will start to rebound to a range of $75 -$90 by the end of 2010 - setting up for a nice campaign issue for 2010 election. Then, we will get another explosion in prices, setting up for an even nicer presidential campaign issue for 2012.
Frankly, I think that beyond a 6 month horizon or so, nobody really has the faintest frickkin' idea.
Remember the "experts" telling us this summer that crude would hit $200/bbl by year's end?
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:04:22pm |
re: #1084 DeafDog
The predicitions I've seen is for Oil will fall below $40 by 1st quarter of 2009, and stay below $50 until last quarter of 2009, decimating the domestic domestic industry. Will they ask for - or get - a bailout?
Towards the end of 2009, the price will start to rebound to a range of $75 -$90 by the end of 2010 - setting up for a nice campaign issue for 2010 election. Then, we will get another explosion in prices, setting up for an even nicer presidential campaign issue for 2012.
Won't be the first time OPEC pulled this stunt. He who has the oil, sets the price.
| 1094 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:04:39pm |
re: #1084 DeafDog
The predicitions I've seen is for Oil will fall below $40 by 1st quarter of 2009, and stay below $50 until last quarter of 2009, decimating the domestic domestic industry. Will they ask for - or get - a bailout?
Towards the end of 2009, the price will start to rebound to a range of $75 -$90 by the end of 2010 - setting up for a nice campaign issue for 2010 election. Then, we will get another explosion in prices, setting up for an even nicer presidential campaign issue for 2012.
I've seen bottom predictions as low as $15. There are a lot of petty dictatorships that are going to hate that.
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hermit Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:04:42pm |
re: #1078 Soona'
I just found a bug.
I gotta go to the doctor now for my bug. 3rd day down..probably strep, but I just wanna be well again,...um, well physically anyway. heh.
/BBL Lizardia!
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DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:04:46pm |
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:04:51pm |
| 1100 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:05:24pm |
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eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:05:42pm |
re: #1086 solomonpanting
Here's one response to lower oil prices.
I had a retired insurance V.P. ask last night why gas prices are down below $2.00/gal...after all, the big oil has already seen that the consumer will pay $4.00/gal...why would they lower the price?
I tried the supply/demand explanation again, but his eyes just glazed over.
| 1102 |
littleO Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:05:44pm |
Ha wench. Well lets just say I can't snap off 20 chin-ups anymore.
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gop_patriot Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:05:49pm |
re: #1088 Kenneth
Ralph editor Santi Pintado urged anyone with information to contact the magazine, saying: "Unless Somali pirates have stolen them it's difficult to explain where they are.
"If anyone finds any washed up on a beach, please let us know. We want our boobs back."
ROTFLMAO
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DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:05:49pm |
re: #1099 Occasional Reader
Too late. Circulation has begun to sag.
Feeling the gravity of the situation
| 1107 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:06:03pm |
| 1108 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:06:11pm |
re: #1088 Kenneth
Men's magazine loses 130,000 inflatable breasts
Oh, the humanity!
Who's the boob that lost them?
| 1109 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:06:29pm |
re: #1063 Sharmuta
ok- I think I found my favorite lol catz ever.
MWAH!
/not seriously ... but I just HAD to make your day!
| 1110 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:06:47pm |
| 1111 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:06:53pm |
re: #1093 unreconstructed rebel
Won't be the first time OPEC pulled this stunt. He who has the oil, sets the price.
Then why isn't the price $1,000/gal?
| 1112 |
Tumulus11 Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:06:55pm |
'Unless Somali pirates have stolen them it's difficult to explain where they are.'
. The pirates found them and blew them up.
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Rancher Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:07:03pm |
re: #1084 DeafDog
The predicitions I've seen is for Oil will fall below $40 by 1st quarter of 2009, and stay below $50 until last quarter of 2009, decimating the domestic domestic industry. Will they ask for - or get - a bailout?
If we are going to punish them when they are profitable why shouldn't we support them through tough times?
Real Rancher
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:07:17pm |
re: #1094 CyanSnowHawk
I've seen bottom predictions as low as $15. There are a lot of petty dictatorships that are going to hate that.
So, the Saudi's succeed in taking out both their foreign competitors AND American oil production. Pretty cool, huh?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:07:20pm |
re: #1088 Kenneth
Men's magazine loses 130,000 inflatable breasts
Oh, the humanity!
OK, who's the boob that lost them?
| 1117 |
wrenchwench Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:07:43pm |
re: #1092 Occasional Reader
Frankly, I think that beyond a 6 month horizon or so, nobody really has the faintest frickkin' idea.
Remember the "experts" telling us this summer that crude would hit $200/bbl by year's end?
Bill Richardson wishes he could forget. He sent out "rebates" to the entire population of NM because he was facing a "windfall" of revenue, now he faces a half a billion dollar shortfall--or he would if he weren't packing to leave for DC.
| 1118 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:07:52pm |
re: #1112 Tumulus11
. The pirates found them and blew them up.
Then they tried attaching them to the lady goats - it did not end well.
| 1119 |
DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:07:54pm |
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:08:08pm |
re: #1111 eschew_obfuscation
Then why isn't the price $1,000/gal?
Market could not support that price just like it couldn't support teh $140 for very long.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:08:19pm |
re: #1088 Kenneth
Men's magazine loses 130,000 inflatable breasts
Oh, the humanity!
Please keep up abreast of the situation.
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turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:08:22pm |
I'm back to test ... has Charles killed the bugs yet?
| 1127 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:08:49pm |
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:08:50pm |
re: #1114 unreconstructed rebel
So, the Saudi's succeed in taking out both their foreign competitors AND American oil production. Pretty cool, huh?
Funny though, the Saudis need oil to be above $40/bbl or so in order to stay solvent. Our oil companies can wait it out, but the House of Saud is gonna have a lot of fiscal problems if it gets to $15/bbl.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:08:59pm |
re: #1088 Kenneth
Men's magazine loses 130,000 inflatable breasts
Oh, the humanity!
A deflationary cycle?
The Liquidity Trap exists.
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DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:09:07pm |
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eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:09:08pm |
re: #1120 midwestgak
Market could not support that price just like it couldn't support teh $140 for very long.
I know...I was making your point...perhaps a bit obtusely.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:10:03pm |
re: #1115 Honorary Yooper
OK, who's the boob that lost them?
He didn't lose them all at once. Oh no, they were nippled and dimed until they were gone.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:10:04pm |
re: #1131 eschew_obfuscation
I know...I was making your point...perhaps a bit obtusely.
I like how you think. : )
| 1136 |
Spenser (with an S) Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:10:14pm |
Any medical types out there (or an experienced parent) know what to do about a possible broken nose on a 5 yr. old. He took a header off the slide and it looks a little crooked to me. I think we're supposed to wait for the swelling to go down a little, but is that right? Thanks.
| 1137 |
turn Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:10:17pm |
re: #1125 turn
Wow, things are seemingly running pretty smooth, aaahhh. Hey FBV, when do you ever leave is more like it. Sell check check. Wow very fast, nice!
| 1138 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:10:26pm |
inflatable breasts
You did it, you finally really did it! You blew them up! Awww, damn you! Damn you all to hell!
| 1139 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:10:46pm |
re: #1088 Kenneth
Men's magazine loses 130,000 inflatable breasts
Oh, the humanity!
Talk about a tempest in a C-cup
| 1140 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:10:55pm |
re: #1092 Occasional Reader
Frankly, I think that beyond a 6 month horizon or so, nobody really has the faintest frickkin' idea.
Remember the "experts" telling us this summer that crude would hit $200/bbl by year's end?
Point taken. No one predicted a dow 7500 either. But you don't really think oil will stay inexpensive now forever, do you?
The argument that convinced me is that - (1) Production is chasing demand down right now. But because the new oil production facilities will likely be delayed, the 'peak' production capability will be lower than the last 'peak' of 80M barrels a day. (2) Barring a major war, the economy will recover. When it does recover (globally) than the pent up demand will drive prices higher relatively quickly. (3) If Obama/Clinton really fumble the ball in Iraq or elsewhere in the ME, then all bets are off.
| 1142 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:11:18pm |
re: #1128 Honorary Yooper
Funny though, the Saudis need oil to be above $40/bbl or so in order to stay solvent. Our oil companies can wait it out, but the House of Saud is gonna have a lot of fiscal problems if it gets to $15/bbl.
I hope we're filling the reserve now.
| 1143 |
Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:11:28pm |
re: #1099 Occasional Reader
Too late. Circulation has begun to sag.
That happens with too much silicone.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:12:02pm |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:12:21pm |
Dolly Parton!
The category is "Famous Titles," not "Titties," Mr. Connery.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:12:40pm |
re: #1094 CyanSnowHawk
I've seen bottom predictions as low as $15. There are a lot of petty dictatorships that are going to hate that.
That would be sweet, but I think it's over-optimistic.
| 1148 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:13:26pm |
| 1149 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:13:34pm |
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:13:50pm |
re: #1140 DeafDog
But you don't really think oil will stay inexpensive now forever, do you?
Frankly, I just don't know. Back in 1979, nobody would have predicted .95/gallon gas in 1999. Everyone just KNEW we'd all be riding bicycles to work by then, after a hearty breakfast of Soylent Green.
| 1151 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:14:19pm |
re: #1146 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Dolly Parton!
The category is "Famous Titles," not "Titties," Mr. Connery.
Here's wishing that another legend Mae West in peace.
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:15:01pm |
re: #1128 Honorary Yooper
Funny though, the Saudis need oil to be above $40/bbl or so in order to stay solvent. Our oil companies can wait it out, but the House of Saud is gonna have a lot of fiscal problems if it gets to $15/bbl.
I do not have current production capabilities, but in the 1980's, the average well in the US produced 15 bbls/day. The average for Saudi Arabia was 2000 bbls/day. Every time US oil attempted expansion, the Saudi's would drop the price. US producers just cannot go to the mat in that environment.
Today, it may no longer be the Saudi's, but whoever it is can stop "Drill, Baby, drill" in its tracks unless the price is right. Energy independence will require some kind of protection scheme to be viable.
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:15:26pm |
re: #1146 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Dolly Parton!
The category is "Famous Titles," not "Titties," Mr. Connery.
I've spent many years of my life trying to invent an anal bum cover...failing to do so is my greatest regret!
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:15:37pm |
re: #1147 DeafDog
That would be sweet,
Actually, I file that under "too much of a good thing". I'd rather some pain threshold remain in the price of oil, so we have incentive to wean ourselves off it. It would be nice if, say, 25 years from now, we were focusing on all those other products supplied by the robust Saudi economy. Like, umm...
| 1155 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:15:57pm |
re: #1128 Honorary Yooper
Funny though, the Saudis need oil to be above $40/bbl or so in order to stay solvent. Our oil companies can wait it out, but the House of Saud is gonna have a lot of fiscal problems if it gets to $15/bbl.
The real bad actors - Iran and Venezuala - need $90 for Breakeven. Russian needs $70. Breakeven for Saudi Arabia is actually about $50 (I think) but they can survive (uncomfortably) on $40.
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Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:15:57pm |
re: #1146 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Dolly Parton!
The category is "Famous Titles," not "Titties," Mr. Connery.
URSULA ANDRESS!
Foreign Flicks, Mr. Connery. FLICKS!
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littleO Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:16:06pm |
re1092: unreconstructed rebel:
The price in oil and other comodities will respond to the market, and money supply available. right now the markets fear recession and devaluation of currancy's. Who knows the timelines for a commodity breakout and/or the economic ramifications of that breakout. OPEC only wishes they could control prices.
If we start drilling, we'll bankrupt the bastards!
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:16:20pm |
re: #1146 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Dolly Parton!
The category is "Famous Titles," not "Titties," Mr. Connery.
The answer: Honoré de Balzac.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:16:42pm |
Goddammit again with the truncated quotes. Pain in the ass.
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Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:17:01pm |
re: #1156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
URSULA ANDRESS!
Foreign Flicks, Mr. Connery. FLICKS!
The Penis Mightier, all I want to know is does it really work?
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Buck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:17:24pm |
re: #1088 Kenneth
Men's magazine loses 130,000 inflatable breasts
Oh, the humanity!
Oh, don't you just hate when that happens?
| 1163 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:17:42pm |
The question: "What is the French term for 'no hitting below the belt?'"
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:17:52pm |
re: #1043 neocon hippie
I grew up listening to Allan Sherman in my suburban Jewish household in the 1960's. I have a distinct memory of my mother exclaiming about him: "He looks like the TV repairman!"
I know a man his name is Lang
And he has a neon sign,
And Mr. Lang is very old,
So they call it Old Lang's Sign.
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:18:48pm |
re: #1155 DeafDog
The real bad actors - Iran and Venezuala - need $90 for Breakeven. Russian needs $70. Breakeven for Saudi Arabia is actually about $50 (I think) but they can survive (uncomfortably) on $40.
And the key for us is does $40 support US expansion?
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Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:19:07pm |
re: #1160 Hengineer
The Penis Mightier, all I want to know is does it really work?
Sean: I think you’ll find it in the R’s.
Alex: No, no not in the R’s.
Sean: That’s not what your mother said last night.
| 1167 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:20:45pm |
re: #1159 Occasional Reader
Goddammit again with the truncated quotes. Pain in the ass.
Doing a page refresh solved it for me. Charles fixed the javascript, but you have to refresh to get the latest code.
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:20:59pm |
re: #1157 littleO
re1092: unreconstructed rebel:
The price in oil and other comodities will respond to the market, and money supply available. right now the markets fear recession and devaluation of currancy's. Who knows the timelines for a commodity breakout and/or the economic ramifications of that breakout. OPEC only wishes they could control prices.
If we start drilling, we'll bankrupt the bastards!
That will depend entirely on whether we can expand given the production price of oil.
| 1169 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:21:11pm |
re: #1160 Hengineer
The Penis Mightier, all I want to know is does it really work?
We're not selling "Penis Mightiers!"
But you're sitting on a gold mine, Trebeck!
| 1170 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:21:16pm |
re: #1166 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sean: I think you’ll find it in the R’s.
Alex: No, no not in the R’s.
Sean: That’s not what your mother said last night.
A Dog says...
Connery: Moo
Trebec: That's wrong
Connery: But its what your mother said last night.
| 1172 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:21:42pm |
re: #1150 Occasional Reader
Frankly, I just don't know. Back in 1979, nobody would have predicted .95/gallon gas in 1999. Everyone just KNEW we'd all be riding bicycles to work by then, after a hearty breakfast of Soylent Green.
Think supply and demand for any commodity.
Fossil fuels will likely be Earth's main source of energy for the next 25 years. I doubt that prices will stay low for long because the industry is going to get dessimated at these lower prices and production will fall off quickly...driving the prices back up.
| 1173 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:22:00pm |
re: #1155 DeafDog
The real bad actors - Iran and Venezuala - need $90 for Breakeven.
What's your source for that? It seems awfully high. We've only had $90 or more oil for a few months in the entire history of oil production.
| 1178 |
Silvergirl Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:23:57pm |
re: #1090 bosforus
How did I miss this candidate during the election?
I love this video.
The Onion
[Link: www.theonion.com...]
My favorite part is when they report that he wants to replace Congress with a horse that stomps once for yes twice for no.
| 1179 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:24:07pm |
re: #1169 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
We're not selling "Penis Mightiers!"
But you're sitting on a gold mine, Trebeck!
Trebec: And your answer is? "I'm sorry Alex"
Connery: I really am sorry, I give you a hard time but its all in good fun
Trebec: Well wow, thank you ... Sean...Let's see what you wagered - Trebec is such a fruit.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:24:41pm |
re: #1146 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Dolly Parton!
The category is "Famous Titles," not "Titties," Mr. Connery.
Worst Dolly Parton joke:
Q: What do you call it when Dolly Parton floats on her back?
A: Islands in the Stream.
| 1181 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:25:04pm |
re: #1154 Occasional Reader
Actually, I file that under "too much of a good thing". I'd rather some pain threshold remain in the price of oil, so we have incentive to wean ourselves off it. It would be nice if, say, 25 years from now, we were focusing on all those other products supplied by the robust Saudi economy. Like, umm...
Plentiful and cheap oil fuels the economy. The commodity itself will be ruled by supply and demand (and the price will recover). I think it'll start recovering next year. But if we got $.90 per gallon gas, I think that would be a good thing.
| 1182 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:25:40pm |
I always thought Dolly Parton was rather grotesque-looking.
| 1183 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:25:57pm |
It would have been AWESOME if they actually got Sean Connery to host Saturday Night Live and actually played himself on the Celebrity Jeapordy bit...
Connery: "I'll take The Rapists for $400"
Trebec: That's therapists...
| 1184 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:26:00pm |
re: #1127 unreconstructed rebel
See my #1114
Saudis getting $15/bbl willre: #1142 CyanSnowHawk
I hope we're filling the reserve now.
Oil prices will not go below the cost of production for more than a very short while since demand will not likely drop to that point. For that to be the case, virtually all economic production would have to cease.
| 1185 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:26:32pm |
re: #1165 unreconstructed rebel
And the key for us is does $40 support US expansion?
With Obama in the WH, $200 does not support US expansion.
| 1186 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:27:51pm |
Connery: Then I'm the cock of the walk!
[I've often wanted to exclaim that during a business meeting, just to see what happens]
| 1187 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:27:56pm |
re: #1184 eschew_obfuscation
Oil prices will not go below the cost of production for more than a very short while since demand will not likely drop to that point. For that to be the case, virtually all economic production would have to cease.
But I have talked to somebody who has said alternative fuels become viable is around $120 a barrel. Then it becomes more financially prudent to invest in alternative sources.
He made a lot of sense too, he basically said everything boils down to money. Political decisions aren't really made for ideological reasons...just follow the money.
| 1188 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:29:04pm |
re: #1187 Hengineer
But I have talked to somebody who has said alternative fuels become viable is around $120 a barrel. Then it becomes more financially prudent to invest in alternative sources.
He made a lot of sense too, he basically said everything boils down to money. Political decisions aren't really made for ideological reasons...just follow the money.
Exactly. That's the first time I've heard a number, but that's interesting.
| 1189 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:29:17pm |
re: #1186 Occasional Reader
Connery: Then I'm the cock of the walk!
[I've often wanted to exclaim that during a business meeting, just to see what happens]
Connery: That's a really nice jacket you're wearing Alex
Trebec: Why thank you...Sean
Connery: I just have one question
Trebec: What is it...Sean?
Connery: Do they make it for men?
| 1190 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:29:38pm |
Sean Connery: That's a nice jacket you're wearing, Trebek.
Alex Trebek: Why, thank you.
Sean Connery: Is that wool? Must have been expensive.
Alex Trebek: No, actually, it was quite reasonable.
Sean Connery: Really? Where did you get it?
Alex Trebek: At a place called Stern's, down on 14th.
Sean Connery: Stern's? I'll have to check it out.
Alex Trebek: Well, you should. Ask for Gary. Tell him that I sent you.
Sean Connery: I'll do that. That sure is a nice jacket. Just one more question...
Alex Trebek: What is it, Sean?
Sean Connery: Do they make them for men?
| 1191 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:30:42pm |
re: #1190 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sean Connery: That's a nice jacket you're wearing, Trebek.
Alex Trebek: Why, thank you.
Sean Connery: Is that wool? Must have been expensive.
Alex Trebek: No, actually, it was quite reasonable.
Sean Connery: Really? Where did you get it?
Alex Trebek: At a place called Stern's, down on 14th.
Sean Connery: Stern's? I'll have to check it out.
Alex Trebek: Well, you should. Ask for Gary. Tell him that I sent you.
Sean Connery: I'll do that. That sure is a nice jacket. Just one more question...
Alex Trebek: What is it, Sean?
Sean Connery: Do they make them for men?
heh you must be getting them directly from a website (or watching the videos)
| 1192 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:31:59pm |
re: #1173 Occasional Reader
What's your source for that? It seems awfully high. We've only had $90 or more oil for a few months in the entire history of oil production.
Do a google search
Venezuala guestimates are harder to figure, but here's one that puts it at $98
| 1193 |
Kragar Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:32:19pm |
re: #1191 Hengineer
heh you must be getting them directly from a website (or watching the videos)
A gentlemen never asks and a lady never tells
| 1194 |
redstateredneck Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:32:35pm |
re: #1182 Occasional Reader
I always thought Dolly Parton was rather grotesque-looking.
She used to be pretty before she was surgically altered. Back when she was first starting out with Porter Wagoner, she was attractive.
| 1195 |
Hengineer Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:33:31pm |
re: #1192 DeafDog
Do a google search
Venezuala guestimates are harder to figure, but here's one that puts it at $98
Heres to nationalized industries being so profitable.
| 1196 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:36:40pm |
re: #1187 Hengineer
But I have talked to somebody who has said alternative fuels become viable is around $120 a barrel. Then it becomes more financially prudent to invest in alternative sources.
He made a lot of sense too, he basically said everything boils down to money. Political decisions aren't really made for ideological reasons...just follow the money.
First time I've heard that number, too. But, I am not surprised. It is high.
I am not happy with all this cheap oil for two reasons:
1) It suppresses both domestic production/exploration & alternative source research
2) It feeds our addiction to cheap energy.
| 1197 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:41:53pm |
re: #1196 unreconstructed rebel
First time I've heard that number, too. But, I am not surprised. It is high.
I am not happy with all this cheap oil for two reasons:
1) It suppresses both domestic production/exploration & alternative source research
2) It feeds our addiction to cheap energy.
Since $120 oil is a burden on the global economy as are taxes...should we just tax the crap out of everyone to pay for alternate/independent energy sources?
Seems like it should work without much economic difference?
| 1198 |
Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:45:27pm |
re: #1192 DeafDog
Do a google search
Venezuala guestimates are harder to figure, but here's one that puts it at $98
Okay, I thought you meant "break even" to mean when the oil business was profitable... my mistake. Those links talk about what the countries budgeted for, which is of course a different thing.
| 1199 |
unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:46:19pm |
re: #1197 eschew_obfuscation
Since $120 oil is a burden on the global economy as are taxes...should we just tax the crap out of everyone to pay for alternate/independent energy sources?
Seems like it should work without much economic difference?
I agree. The American driver did not yell uncle until $4.00/gal. We should tax the crap out of gas to just under that in order to help us make the transition. Otherwise, we are at the mercy of OPEC.
| 1200 |
DeafDog Wed, Dec 3, 2008 1:50:48pm |
re: #1198 Occasional Reader
Okay, I thought you meant "break even" to mean when the oil business was profitable... my mistake. Those links talk about what the countries budgeted for, which is of course a different thing.
Definitly a different thing, but the oil companies are national piggy-banks for these countries. So their ability to do bad is impacted.
| 1201 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Dec 3, 2008 2:14:26pm |
re: #1199 unreconstructed rebel
I agree. The American driver did not yell uncle until $4.00/gal. We should tax the crap out of gas to just under that in order to help us make the transition. Otherwise, we are at the mercy of OPEC.
The other side of this is, of course, that there would be less incentive to find cheaper ways of producing alternative energy.
...and the American driver is now yelling uncle at $2.00/gal.
So it also depends on general economic conditions.
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