I thought the last one was the open thread

Wow, its soooooo open noone is here.

good afternoon every one!

Three presidents died on Christmas Eve and were met by Saint Peter at the pearly gates.

"In honor of this holy season" Saint Peter said, "You must each possess something that symbolizes Christmas to get into heaven."

Jimmy Carter fumbled through his pockets and pulled out a lighter. He flicked it on. "It represents a candle", he said.

"You may pass through the pearly gates" Saint Peter said.

George Bush reached into his pocket and pulled out a set of keys. He shook them and said, "They're bells."

Saint Peter said "You may pass through the pearly gates".

Bill Clinton started searching desperately through his pockets and finally pulled out a pair of women's panties.

St. Peter looked at the man with a raised eyebrow a and asked, "And just what do those symbolize?"

The man replied, "These are Carols."

re: #2 WrathofG-d

i m here

Just want to say "thanks" to Charles for the hat tip two threads down.

re: #1 WrathofG-d

I thought the last one was the open thread

I thought it was the ubiquitous gun thread. ;-)>

Good morning all, Friday morning. Friday morning will happen, I know, coz I am here.

re: #1 WrathofG-d

I thought the last one was the open thread

Nope it was a closed one..
Hope today finds you well today..

re: #7 Outrider

I thought it was the ubiquitous gun thread. ;-)>

They're debating cocked or decocked. I prefer a decocking lever but a guy like OR, you just know he wants cock.

re: #6 Alouette

Just want to say "thanks" to Charles for the hat tip two threads down.

Indeed, where, on earth, did you dig that up from?

re: #6 Alouette

Just want to say "thanks" to Charles for the hat tip two threads down.

you deserved it..

Hooh boy was that in bad taste.

"Rape Me"

High Court: Olmert can continue negotiating with Syria, PA

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

So could a monkey and get the same results!

I am so not getting any work done today.

re: #14 WrathofG-d

"Rape Me"

I posted that yesterday and said that is the kind of Jew I can longer be in the same room with.

Let me just say.....BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A bitter brew for Kerry

SENATOR John Kerry's fate illustrates the new political order under President-elect Barack Obama: Reward your enemies, not necessarily your friends.

Hillary Clinton, Obama's tough primary opponent, became Obama's choice for secretary of state; Kerry, an avid Obama ally, was passed over....

Read it all. It will make you happy. :)

re: #17 Nevergiveup

I'd LOVE to be in the same room as that guy.

re: #10 Peacekeeper

oh my.

re: #14 WrathofG-d

"Rape Me"

Wow. Has this guy ever been to Israel and seen the land he is talking about and where it lies? Or the circumstances in which it was acquired? What. an. idiot.

Great scene from one of my favorite movies.
Johnny English
Thought of this because there was talk of awful pop songs on the last thread.

re: #19 WrathofG-d

I'd LOVE to be in the same room as that guy.

Well maybe, but not with any witnesses?

Canada parliament suspended:

[Link: www.winnipegsun.com...]

It's a move that will prevent the left-wing coalition from overthrowing the conservatives, at least for a while.

Harper is hoping that the left wing coalition will fall apart before parliament reconvenes. A bold move I must say.

re: #14 WrathofG-d

"Rape Me"

Whats this? An apologist for abandoning the territories? Its not "Rape me" Its more like "Murder me", isnt it? Giving away the Golan Heights to your enemy in exchange for a false peace and then have them fill that high ground with all shades of weaponry. He's mad.

re: #24 allan5oh

Canada parliament suspended:

[Link: www.winnipegsun.com...]

It's a move that will prevent the left-wing coalition from overthrowing the conservatives, at least for a while.

Harper is hoping that the left wing coalition will fall apart before parliament reconvenes. A bold move I must say.

I just hope you all don't have your own "Obama" up there?

re: #17 Nevergiveup

What a disgusting human being. What a prideless knave. What a traitor, and pathetic excuse for a Jew.

It is one thing to wish that your own Government/people acted that way...but something completely different to look to the Nations to force it upon you.

Like most pathetic morons of our past, he turns to the Nations when he should turn inward to his own.

re: #17 Nevergiveup

I posted that yesterday and said that is the kind of Jew I can NO longer be in the same room with.

Did you leave out a "no"?

re: #20 loppyd

oh my.

too gross?

re: #7 Outrider

I thought it was the ubiquitous gun thread. ;-)>

so we're operating in open bolt mode?

re: #28 A Kiwi Infidel

Did you leave out a "no"?

Certainly appears so. Thanks.

re: #19 WrathofG-d

I'd LOVE to be in the same room as that guy.

No you wouldn't...
You're not that kind of guy..
/

re: #29 Peacekeeper

too gross?

I have no room to talk after my comment on the last thread.....

re: #30 redc1c4

so we're operating in open bolt mode?

safeties off. watch your lanes

re: #21 Outrider

He claims I believe to be an Israeli. But this dovetails from my conversation from the last thread.

This so-called Jew turns to "others" to force his people to do something. He looks outward for "help".

see 27

Anyone who has "According to Wikipedia" in their op-ed pieces about ANYTHING, let alone Israel, should not be taken seriously.

I posted this in spin-offs in the last thread, but this is just too, too funny. So if you didn't see it there, please enjoy it here:

Switching to Digital TV

I've been sooooo anticipating this thread. My life has been bereft of meaning until now........

/ :)

re: #33 loppyd

I have no room to talk after my comment on the last thread.....

Comforting to think that I'll always have you to share the basement with.

re: #32 HoosierHoops

No you wouldn't...
You're not that kind of guy..
/

He is when he's trippin' balls.

re: #25 A Kiwi Infidel

I took his core point to be that the U.S has to FORCE Israel to do this or that.

One can have their opinion on whether or not Israel "needs" Judea, Aza, Samaria, and the Golan. This has been, and is debated almost constantly.

But if that decision is going to be made, there should be no disagreement that it MUST be made by Am Yisroel and not forced on us by the Nations.

How about those Minnesotan/Somali yoots returning to Somalia as jihadists?

Senator Norm Coleman would do something about this, but not the unserious unfunny Al Franken.

re: #34 Outrider

safeties off. watch your lanes

happiness is a long belt and a bottle of LSA for the AG to pour on the barrel.......

Arab-American hate crimes down since 9/11

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Hate crimes against Arab Americans have decreased steadily since the September 11 attacks but are still more common than they were before the hijackings, a civil rights group said on Thursday.

The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee said it received an average of 120 to 130 reports of ethnically motivated attacks or threats each year between 2003 and 2007, a sharp decrease from the 700 violent incidents it documented in the weeks following the 2001 attacks.

But that figure is still higher than the 80 to 90 reports it received in the late 1990s, the civil rights group said.

re: #39 Peacekeeper

Comforting to think that I'll always have you to share the basement with.

;~)

re: #35 WrathofG-d

He claims I believe to be an Israeli. But this dovetails from my conversation from the last thread.

This so-called Jew turns to "others" to force his people to do something. He looks outward for "help".

see 27

understand. I have never pretended to understand what drives these guys. every country has them. look at all the leftists in this country that want UN domination and control here.

Boot Knut: Berlin's star polar bear faces eviction

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

OK, but this sentence caught my eye:Knut lives in a small section of the current enclosure, home to Knut's parents, Tosca and Lars, and two older females.

Am I missing something?

re: #37 reine.de.tout

I posted this in spin-offs in the last thread, but this is just too, too funny. So if you didn't see it there, please enjoy it here:

Switching to Digital TV

LOL

re: #17 Nevergiveup

I posted that yesterday and said that is the kind of Jew I can no longer be in the same room with.

And add to that Jews who have drunk the kool-aid... sigh.

re: #44 loppyd

Arab-American hate crimes down since 9/11

On a related note, This just in: Muslim hate crimes against the world are up

hmmmm, is it brighter in here?

re: #7 Outrider

At a certain point, all threads become gun threads.

SURF: PIPELINE
8-12 ft. - 3 ft. overhead to double overhead + with occasional 15 ft. and good-epic conditions.
CURRENT WEATHER: 8:49 AM HST
WIND: ENE @ 1 - 3 kts
AIR TEMP: 74°F
WATER TEMP: 79°-82°F

/in case you were interested..............

On the bailout for GM --

They want a lot of money. GM isn't worth a lot of money right now. Their market cap is in the 3B range, if I read the info right, and they want more than that. And, let's be honest, a bailout for GM is basically a bailout for the union.

So, why not buy GM and give it to the unions? It's cheaper, and the unions end up obligated to themselves.

It would be interesting to watch what happened.

Probably not likely, though

re: #11 A Kiwi Infidel

Indeed, where, on earth, did you dig that up from?

[Link: www.vosizneias.com...]

It's a little Hasidic blog that I discovered while looking for updates on the Mumbai atrocities last week. It seems they had faster updates than any other site.

re: #50 Desert Dog

On a related note, This just in: Muslim hate crimes against the world are up

See? That was hateful. You just skewed the stats. :)

re: #50 Desert Dog

On a related note, This just in: Muslim hate crimes against the world are up

Here Behold Verily Is The Religion Of Peace The Compassionate, The Most Merciful

re: #52 Dianna

At a certain point, all threads become gun threads.

ahhh. the theory of evolution..
so succinct ..bravo

re: #37 reine.de.tout

I posted this in spin-offs in the last thread, but this is just too, too funny. So if you didn't see it there, please enjoy it here:

Switching to Digital TV

ROTFLMAO!

/That would be my mother in law in a few years, if they didn't already have cable.

re: #54 sawblade88

Sounds like a good premise for a sit-com. Like Odd Couple, Taxi and The Office all rolled into one.

re: #55 Alouette

The advantage to close-knit communities! Word travels fast...

re: #50 Desert Dog

On a related note, This just in: Muslim hate crimes against the world are up

Effen great one.

So In August 2008 Muslims Around The World Blasted An Israeli Professor For Reading Kindness Into The Koran

America...stay out da Bushes:

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush tells Newsmax that the GOP must broaden its appeal to avoid becoming “the old white-guy party,” and recommends that Republicans create a “shadow government” to engage Democrats on important issues as the incoming Obama administration seeks to enact its agenda.

In a wide-ranging interview with Newsmax, the popular former governor and younger brother of President George W. Bush said the 2008 election was neither “transformational” nor a landslide. For example, he noted that Barack Obama's significant fundraising advantage over John McCain played a key role in Democratic success this year.

re: #56 loppyd

I just report the news, sir. As an unbiased and totally impartial judge of what is news and what is not, I assure you I would never, under any circumstances inject my personal beliefs and thoughts into the information I am so lovelingly departing to you and the rest of the unwashed masses....

re: #52 Dianna

At a certain point, all threads become gun threads.

or boob threads apparently, later in the night. ;-)>

re: #52 Dianna

At a certain point, all threads become gun threads.

Arr, what do you think of the .45 vs the .41? I like less kick of the .41 vs the stopping power of the .45 mates.

re: #62 Ben Hur

Effen great one.

Dozens of young Somali men in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area have disappeared in recent months, causing community members and U.S. intelligence officials to fear that they are joining jihadist groups in Somalia.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

The missing young men have been the focus of some attention since late October, when Shirwa Ahmed, a naturalized U.S. citizen, died in a suicide bombing in northern Somalia. Ahmed was a 1999 graduate of Minneapolis's Roosevelt High School.

re: #54 sawblade88

Why don't they give each of us taxpayers about $200,000 and save us some money? I'm sure I can bail out all three of the biggies for that much.

Mmmm, turkey with ranch and bacon sandwich with curly fries and mozzarella sticks

re: #69 Cap'n DOC

I've always wondered if they couldn't have saved the economy but just giving the 700 Billion back to the citizens.

re: #10 Peacekeeper

They're debating cocked or decocked. I prefer a decocking lever but a guy like OR, you just know he wants cock.

Come a little closer, you're not quite in my kill zone I can't quite hear you.

re: #65 Desert Dog

I just report the news, sir. As an unbiased and totally impartial judge of what is news and what is not, I assure you I would never, under any circumstances inject my personal beliefs and thoughts into the information I am so lovelingly departing to you and the rest of the unwashed masses....

Fine then. Just don't call me sir....I'll get a complex. LOL

re: #65 Desert Dog

I just report the news, sir. As an unbiased and totally impartial judge of what is news and what is not, I assure you I would never, under any circumstances inject my personal beliefs and thoughts into the information I am so lovelingly departing to you and the rest of the unwashed masses....

Lifted straight from the msm little red book.... ;)

re: #71 WrathofG-d

My point exactly.

re: #65 Desert Dog

I just report the news, sir. As an unbiased and totally impartial judge of what is news and what is not, I assure you I would never, under any circumstances inject my personal beliefs and thoughts into the information I am so lovelingly departing to you and the rest of the unwashed masses....

Bill O'Reilly..Is that you?
/

If the tax payers bail them out, then the taxpayers can all stop making car payments right?

re: #67 loflyer

Depends on the particular circumstances. I favor knockdown power, hence the .45.

re: #70 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mmmm, turkey with ranch and bacon sandwich with curly fries and mozzarella sticks

That sounds so much better than the salad I had for lunch!

re: #70 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mmmm, turkey with ranch and bacon sandwich with curly fries and mozzarella sticks

Keep walking straight. There's a heart attack around the corner.

re: #68 Nevergiveup

Dozens of young Somali men in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area have disappeared in recent months, causing community members and U.S. intelligence officials to fear that they are joining jihadist groups in Somalia.

As long as it's "... in Somalia", I'm not so concerned. They wanna go play jihad back home? Knock yourselves out, boys.

re: #77 Peacekeeper

If the tax payers bail them out, then the taxpayers can all stop making car payments right?

And go to job banks instead of our offices?

re: #66 Outrider

or boob threads apparently, later in the night. ;-)>

Did someone say boobs?

re: #26 Nevergiveup

Stephane Dion is no Obama, he'd be the leader of the coalition. Funny, his party the liberal party of canada, recently decided he should no longer be leader. The guy lacks charisma, cannot speak english very well at all, does not have good ideas, and recently lead the liberals to their worst defect in 150 years.

They want him to lead the country.

Yesterday, both Harper and Dion had a chance to address the nation. Harper's tape was on time, professional, ableit a little short. Dion's tape arrived well after the time allotted for both addresses and debate on the addresses. It was unprofessional, wasn't broadcast quality, and wasn't properly edited, and had a book "hot air" prominently displayed in the background.

The left wing coalition wants this guy to lead Canada(starting at 5:30):

re: #71 WrathofG-d

I've always wondered if they couldn't have saved the economy but just giving the 700 Billion back to the citizens.

Or worse yet for Washington, lower everyone taxes for less services to the permanently unproductive. Yaar!

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Now, now. No need to rush to judgement, no premature speculation.

re: #16 Creeping Eruption

It's December. Nobody but retail does any work this month anyway :-)

re: #81 Occasional Reader

As long as it's "... in Somalia", I'm not so concerned. They wanna go play jihad back home? Knock yourselves out, boys.

Except the article goes on to say:Officials are especially concerned that some of the men may be destined to return to the U.S. after they have received terrorist training.

curious how you had that so close at hand FP. re: #83 Ford_Prefect

re: #78 irongrampa

Depends on the particular circumstances. I favor knockdown power, hence the .45.

I admire your firepower! What ever does the job, mate.

re: #68 Nevergiveup

Dozens of young Somali men in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area have disappeared in recent months, causing community members and U.S. intelligence officials to fear that they are joining jihadist groups in Somalia.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

The missing young men have been the focus of some attention since late October, when Shirwa Ahmed, a naturalized U.S. citizen, died in a suicide bombing in northern Somalia. Ahmed was a 1999 graduate of Minneapolis's Roosevelt High School.

And Al Franken's hopes for an upset went with them.

I confess to a...different...sense of humor. Being aforewarned, I present you with this short story which made me laugh out loud.

"Come out with your hands up!" they commanded, but the miscreant stood firm.

What first came to mind was the SWAT team from The Blues Brothers.

*hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut*

re: #53 IslandLibertarian

Awesome! I love it.

I don't know when I'll get back out there but I will get there again. *sigh*

re: #44 loppyd

Arab-American hate crimes down since 9/11

By my math:

The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee said it received an average of 120 to 130 reports of ethnically motivated attacks or threats each year between 2003 and 2007, a sharp decrease from the 700 violent incidents it documented in the weeks following the 2001 attacks.

is still less than the 3,000.

If I may be so bold as to make a slight adjustment?

re: #27 WrathofG-d

What a disgusting human being. What a prideless knave. What a traitor, and pathetic excuse for a Jew.

It is one thing to wish that your own Government/people acted that way...but something completely different to look to the Nations to force it upon you.

Like most pathetic morons of our past, he turns to the Nations "Egypt" when he should turn inward to his own.

The Almighty always used Egypt to depict Israel's reliance on the world instead of her reliance on Him. We it see it today. Dear Israel, turn to your Lord and trust in Him. He will deliver you from your enemies, indeed He will deliver your enemies to you.

re: #86 Peacekeeper

That is a good one!

re: #80 midwestgak

Why even kid yourself with the turkey.?

re: #37 reine.de.tout

She is TOO precious...wa wa wa
ROTFLMAO
THX reine I needed the belly laugh!

re: #76 HoosierHoops

Bill O'Reilly..Is that you?
/

O'Reilly is a commentator, not a news caster.

re: #87 Iron Fist

It's December. Nobody but retail does any work this month anyway :-)

I'm with you, except . . with this economic downturn so to speak, my particular slice of industry (insolvency) is just booming. I'm so busy right now that last Sunday, I beat my boss to work at 8:00 am.

re: #24 allan5oh

I really hope so. It's such a naked power-grab that Canadians everywhere should have these idiots horse-whipped. Harper is trying his best with this.
This is what we get when we don't have proportional representation, have our idiot judges appointed, still have a queen and let a handful of French yahoos blackmail us into doing their will.

re: #96 Desert Dog

That is a good one!

Then you must ding it. I'm trying to break 3K by Christmas...

re: #88 Nevergiveup

Except the article goes on to say:Officials are especially concerned that some of the men may be destined to return to the U.S. after they have received terrorist training.

See, now that's the part that needs fixing.

This needs to be added to the tools used to interrogate terrorists.....

re: #99 IslandLibertarian

For that matter, we're all commentators here.
: )

re: #80 midwestgak

Keep walking straight. There's a heart attack around the corner.

The guy I work with hates me. He is a total health food nut and has high blood pressure and cholesterol. I eat food I enjoy eating and have low BP and cholesterol. The joys of metabolism.

re: #89 apachegunner

curious how you had that so close at hand FP.

What can I say? I'm a boob man. ;-)

re: #101 Joan Not of Arc

It's such a naked power-grab that Canadians everywhere should have these idiots horse-whipped.

There's just so much repressed imagery there.

re: #85 loflyer

Well, yes...of course. There are a lot of changes that should be made. Less government, less taxes etc.

But most specifically, if they are going to bail out the "real estate" market they should have just given the money back to the citizens so that those with houses going into foreclosure could have paid their mortgages. Instead they gave it to the Mortgage Banks. A similar result would have occurred...the banks would have gotten paid what they are owed.

But, you see.....the Government REFUSES to give the money BACK! They will do anything in their power to just NOT give it BACK to the people they have stolen it from. They insist on spending it FOR YOU.

As far as caliber, I like .25ACP. I enjoy merely irritating my opponent.

/

re: #81 Occasional Reader

As long as it's "... in Somalia", I'm not so concerned. They wanna go play jihad back home? Knock yourselves out, boys.

Oh, they just went home to help out with that little pirate problem they're having over there.

/didn't someone post a link the other day saying that the Somali Islamists were going to go after the pirates?

re: #67 loflyer

A .45 doesn't kick to badly in a full sized gun. I've shot a little DAO .45 AMT Backup. It's not a whole lot bigger than a .25. It has substantial recoil. OTOH, it's not a target gun. It doesn't even have sights, just a groove down the top to generally aim the muzzle in the right direction.

I've always seen the .40, .41, 10mm crowd as being superfluous. They are all trying to be a .45. Just get the .45 and be done with it. There's a reason why a lot of your high-dollar custom guns are chambered for the round.

re: #108 Peacekeeper

It's such a naked power-grab that Canadians everywhere should have these idiots horse-whipped.

There's just so much repressed imagery there.

Wrong. There's nothing remotely erotic about any sentence containing the word "Canadians".

/just kiddin', canucks

re: #37 reine.de.tout

I posted this in spin-offs in the last thread, but this is just too, too funny. So if you didn't see it there, please enjoy it here:

Switching to Digital TV

I'm just imagining my grandmother doing all that, and it makes it even funnier....

re: #67 loflyer

Arr, what do you think of the .45 vs the .41? I like less kick of the .41 vs the stopping power of the .45 mates.

.41? Eh? Never saw one of those?

Me, I adore my .45.

For one thing, every time I'm at the range alone, there are inevitably men who snicker at the sight of my middle-aged, long-haired, blondish self. "Oh, the little lady! We'll help her with her .22 or something!"

Then I pull out my hand-cannon. The snickering diminishes.

By the time I've finished my first target, it's been replaced by nervous laughter.

By the time I've done my 25-yard target, they are backing out, nervously, praying they didn't piss me off too bad.

I really enjoy that.

And this just in... authorities have discovered 67 absentee votes for Franken on a hijacked ship.

Lizardettes, I think I may have found the perfect holiday party dress. Or not.

[Link: www.neatorama.com...]

re: #52 Dianna

At a certain point, all threads become gun threads.

You're not my ex-wife are you? Just had to check as per your comment on the last thread (I mentioned her name was Diana.)

re: #50 Desert Dog

On a related note, This just in: Muslim hate crimes religious proselytizing against the world are up

fixed that for ya!

re: #109 WrathofG-d

Well, yes...of course. There are a lot of changes that should be made. Less government, less taxes etc.

But most specifically, if they are going to bail out the "real estate" market they should have just given the money back to the citizens so that those with houses going into foreclosure could have paid their mortgages. Instead they gave it to the Mortgage Banks. A similar result would have occurred...the banks would have gotten paid what they are owed.

But, you see.....the Government REFUSES to give the money BACK! They will do anything in their power to just NOT give it BACK to the people they have stolen it from. They insist on spending it FOR YOU.

No one is happy with the current financial and tax programs of the current administration. I pray for a miracle but expect the worse. Hunker down mates!

re: #115 Dianna

By the time I've done my 25-yard target, they are backing out, nervously

I do hope that's hyperbole... if you really have people "backing out, nervously", when you shoot at the range... well...

:P

re: #41 WrathofG-d

But if that decision is going to be made, there should be no disagreement that it MUST be made by Am Yisroel and not forced on us by the Nations.

No, no, no, no!

In 1967, in a matter of 6 days the Lord walked with Israel and delivered her enemies to her and delivered the land that rightfully belongs to Israel, BACK to her. It is yours. Never give it back. There will be no peace with Amelek no matter what you surrender to them. They do not want peace, they want Israel's destruction. Stand firm. Stand with the Lord. He stands with you.

Noted the market is tanking again.

Last week's gains were so unnerving....

re: #24 allan5oh

Canada parliament suspended:

[Link: www.winnipegsun.com...]

It's a move that will prevent the left-wing coalition from overthrowing the conservatives, at least for a while.

Harper is hoping that the left wing coalition will fall apart before parliament reconvenes. A bold move I must say.

A few days ago some Canadian guy on IRC linked me to a couple of articles about this political matter... and I just could not believe that so soon after an election that went against the Left, people up there are already trying to go for a change in the government. I mean, they've not even had time to prove themselves worthy or unworthy of the position, and there are people already clamoring for a vote of no confidence! Fools!

re: #87 Iron Fist

Health care facilities biggest month.....everyone trying to utilize their paid up year end insurance deductibles.

We need gun thread control:

A ban on assault posts
10 post waiting period
7 no single thread can load more than 7 posts

I think Charles opened this thread because an Egyptian cleric threatened him with the Fickle Finger of Faith.

re: #118 legalpad

You're not my ex-wife are you? Just had to check as per your comment on the last thread (I mentioned her name was Diana.)

No, I'm not. I've never been married, though I do keep a Male.

re: #100 Creeping Eruption

I guess that's better than being your own customer. I'm fortunate in my job. It is about as solid as I could hope to find. We've just started a million plus upgrade to our offices. We're not going to be hiring like we'd hoped to do, but we're not going to be laying anyone off, either.

In this market, that is a good thing.

re: #115 Dianna

.41? Eh? Never saw one of those?

I only know of the .41 Magnum, which is a revolver round.

re: #117 scottishbuzzsaw

LOL!

Reine, sweetie, that girl has your avatar's hat.

;)

re: #102 Peacekeeper

dinged you twice now...supporting the cause!

re: #117 scottishbuzzsaw

Lizardettes, I think I may have found the perfect holiday party dress. Or not.

[Link: www.neatorama.com...]

hey, she's a redhead, as I think you are too. what else is common?

re: #121 Occasional Reader

I do hope that's hyperbole... if you really have people "backing out, nervously", when you shoot at the range... well...

:P

Only sexist men who have tried to patronize me.

re: #115 Dianna

You go Dianna!
High TEN!

re: #18 loppyd

Let me just say.....BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A bitter brew for Kerry

Read it all. It will make you happy. :)

Kerry needs to be careful what he wishes for. A confirmation hearing, with him under oath, would allow some potentially embarrassing questions about John F'n Kerry's service record. And on other interesting topics, like meeting with the North Vietnamese or the lies promulgated in the Winter Soldier hearings.

re: #124 experiencedtraveller

Noted the market is tanking again.

Last week's gains were so unnerving....

You've just got to put the right spin on it.

Today's market showed an aggressive and robust move south for the winter.

Feel better?

re: #132 gop_patriot

LOL!

Reine, sweetie, that girl has your avatar's hat.

;)

Oh my gosh...she does!

10 Words That Sound Dirty But Aren’t

Phuket

an island near the W coast of Thailand.

Spotted Dick

a suet pudding containing currants.

Titillate

1. to excite or arouse agreeably: to titillate the fancy.
2. to tickle; excite a tingling or itching sensation in, as by touching or stroking lightly.

Thespian

1. (often lowercase) pertaining to tragedy or to the dramatic art in general.
2. of or characteristic of Thespis.
3. of or pertaining to Thespiae.
–noun
4. (sometimes lowercase) a tragedian; an actor or actress.

Masticate

1. to chew.
2. to reduce to a pulp by crushing or kneading, as rubber.

Pianist

a person who plays the piano, esp. one who performs expertly or professionally.

Shuttlecock

1. Also called shuttle. the object that is struck back and forth in badminton and battledore, consisting of a feathered cork head and a plastic crown.
2. the game of battledore.
–verb (used with object)
3. to send or bandy to and fro like a shuttlecock.
–verb (used without object)
4. to move or be bandied to and fro.
–adjective
5. of such a state or condition: a shuttlecock existence.

Coccyx

1. a small triangular bone forming the lower extremity of the spinal column in humans, consisting of four ankylosed rudimentary vertebrae.
2. a corresponding part in certain animals.

Penal

1. of, pertaining to, or involving punishment, as for crimes or offenses.
2. prescribing punishment: penal laws.
3. constituting punishment: He survived the years of penal hardship.
4. used as a place of confinement and punishment: a penal colony.
5. subject to or incurring punishment: a penal offense.
6. payable or forfeitable as a penalty: a penal sum.

Titmouse

any of numerous, widely distributed, small songbirds of the family Paridae, esp. of the genus Parus, having soft, thick plumage and a short, stout, conical bill.

Feel free to add to the list.

re: #64 Peacekeeper

Having a 'shadow governemt' is not a bad idea at all - we've been doing this here in the UK for aeons!

re: #137 Son of the Black Dog

Kerry needs to be careful what he wishes for. A confirmation hearing, with him under oath, would allow some potentially embarrassing questions about John F'n Kerry's service record. And on other interesting topics, like meeting with the North Vietnamese or the lies promulgated in the Winter Soldier hearings.

That would have been popcorn worthy.

re: #129 Dianna

No, I'm not. I've never been married, though I do keep a Male.

LOL - She was blonde too, and I taught her to shoot a .45 and she was damn good, I assume, still is.

re: #68 Nevergiveup

Dozens of young Somali men in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area have disappeared in recent months, causing community members and U.S. intelligence officials to fear that they are joining jihadist groups in Somalia.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

The missing young men have been the focus of some attention since late October, when Shirwa Ahmed, a naturalized U.S. citizen, died in a suicide bombing in northern Somalia. Ahmed was a 1999 graduate of Minneapolis's Roosevelt High School.

See how much damage a crying supermodel can cause?

re: #135 Dianna

Only sexist men who have tried to patronize me.

Well, that'll never be me. I think it's cute when girls think they can shoot.

re: #140 Ben Hur

10 Words That Sound Dirty But Aren’t

Phuket

an island near the W coast of Thailand.

Spotted Dick

a suet pudding containing currants.

Titillate

1. to excite or arouse agreeably: to titillate the fancy.
2. to tickle; excite a tingling or itching sensation in, as by touching or stroking lightly.

Thespian

1. (often lowercase) pertaining to tragedy or to the dramatic art in general.
2. of or characteristic of Thespis.
3. of or pertaining to Thespiae.
–noun
4. (sometimes lowercase) a tragedian; an actor or actress.

Masticate

1. to chew.
2. to reduce to a pulp by crushing or kneading, as rubber.

Pianist

a person who plays the piano, esp. one who performs expertly or professionally.

Shuttlecock

1. Also called shuttle. the object that is struck back and forth in badminton and battledore, consisting of a feathered cork head and a plastic crown.
2. the game of battledore.
–verb (used with object)
3. to send or bandy to and fro like a shuttlecock.
–verb (used without object)
4. to move or be bandied to and fro.
–adjective
5. of such a state or condition: a shuttlecock existence.

Coccyx

1. a small triangular bone forming the lower extremity of the spinal column in humans, consisting of four ankylosed rudimentary vertebrae.
2. a corresponding part in certain animals.

Penal

1. of, pertaining to, or involving punishment, as for crimes or offenses.
2. prescribing punishment: penal laws.
3. constituting punishment: He survived the years of penal hardship.
4. used as a place of confinement and punishment: a penal colony.
5. subject to or incurring punishment: a penal offense.
6. payable or forfeitable as a penalty: a penal sum.

Titmouse

any of numerous, widely distributed, small songbirds of the family Paridae, esp. of the genus Parus, having soft, thick plumage and a short, stout, conical bill.

Feel free to add to the list.

Innuendo always struck me a dirty

re: #140 Ben Hur

I say Penal all the time.

PUT IT DOWN, DIANNA! 'TWAS A JOKE!

NSFW? Heck, I don't even know where you work.

Sweet! Futurama's is on!

Fleshmap: What we sing about

Somebody took thousands of songs, organized by genre, and created a series of graphs based upon the frequency of body parts mentioned in the lyrics. The link is to country music.

I was going to use Hip-Hop, but that wasn't work safe.

re: #71 WrathofG-d

I've always wondered if they couldn't have saved the economy but just giving the 700 Billion back to the citizens.

Yep - would be a great help to me personally!

re: #115 Dianna

.41 Action Express is a round IMI (Israel Military Industries) put out for a while. I don't think anyone other than IMI ever made a gun that used it. IIRC, you used to could get conversion kits for Uzis to the caliber, but I don't think they ever actually manufactured Uzis in that caliber.

re: #135 Dianna

Only sexist men who have tried to patronize me.

Now is that patronize (money involved) or patronize (condescention involved) ;-) ?

re: #145 Occasional Reader

Well, that'll never be me. I think it's cute when girls think they can shoot.

Hey, I can shoot. Not well, but I can. And I love it.

re: #115 Dianna

.41? Eh? Never saw one of those?

Me, I adore my .45.

For one thing, every time I'm at the range alone, there are inevitably men who snicker at the sight of my middle-aged, long-haired, blondish self. "Oh, the little lady! We'll help her with her .22 or something!"

Then I pull out my hand-cannon. The snickering diminishes.

By the time I've finished my first target, it's been replaced by nervous laughter.

By the time I've done my 25-yard target, they are backing out, nervously, praying they didn't piss me off too bad.

I really enjoy that.

Sounds familiar. I shoot at a questionably reputable gun shop where a surprising number of gang banger like to hang out. They have their little 9mm's with laser sights etc. When I start shooting with my .357 you can see all these heads poke out of the lanes looking at me. It is hysterical. Granted, I am not a middle age, blond woman, but it is still pretty funny.

re: #115 Dianna

.41? Eh? Never saw one of those?

Me, I adore my .45.

For one thing, every time I'm at the range alone, there are inevitably men who snicker at the sight of my middle-aged, long-haired, blondish self. "Oh, the little lady! We'll help her with her .22 or something!"

Then I pull out my hand-cannon. The snickering diminishes.

By the time I've finished my first target, it's been replaced by nervous laughter.

By the time I've done my 25-yard target, they are backing out, nervously, praying they didn't piss me off too bad.

I really enjoy that.

When they dump 13 rounds into a .45 clip mounted on a medium frame and barrel they might get my attention. The .45 is a classic, but nearly 100 years old. I respect your loyalty but I am all for efficiency! Anyone seen a good cheap "Star Trek" phazer for dirt cheap lately?

re: #147 loppyd

I say Penal all the time.

Say it slowly for me.

re: #145 Occasional Reader

Well, that'll never be me. I think it's cute when girls think they can shoot.

Come out here. I'll take you to the range, and we can find out.

(borrowing from Iron Fist) *Dark, malevolent laughter*.

re: #123 A Kiwi Infidel

No, no, no, no!

In 1967, in a matter of 6 days the Lord walked with Israel and delivered her enemies to her and delivered the land that rightfully belongs to Israel, BACK to her. It is yours. Never give it back. There will be no peace with Amelek no matter what you surrender to them. They do not want peace, they want Israel's destruction. Stand firm. Stand with the Lord. He stands with you.

I don't advocate giving Jewish land to anyone else. Anyone that sees me post should know that by now. I believe in the Biblical mandate, not the British one. I was trying to avoid the issue of whether it should be given away (not back as it is being considered to be given to "Phakestinians" which never had it. Thus they can't get it "back". Important difference to remember!) and just concentrate on WHO should be making that decision if its made at all.

The Jews don't need others telling us what to do. If you haven't noticed we succeed without their help.

re: #157 Ben Hur

Say it slowly for me.

Pee-Nahl!

re: #154 loppyd

Hey, I can shoot. Not well, but I can. And I love it.

Lorena?.......put.down.the.knife!

re: #149 razorbacker

Spellchecker needs a grammaw checker, too, as well.

re: #157 Ben Hur

Say it slowly for me.

Shall I wear my Catholic school girl outfit too?

re: #153 eschew_obfuscation

Now is that patronize (money involved) or patronize (condescention involved) ;-) ?

Condescension.

And please be careful with that implication.

*Salvatore Squirrel taps the violin case, meaningfully*

re: #158 Dianna

Come out here. I'll take you to the range, and we can find out.

(borrowing from Iron Fist) *Dark, malevolent laughter*.

The cuting range?

re: #151 yma o hyd

How many American citizens are there? What would that be per person?

re: #160 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Pee-Nahl!

Dude, you've killed my penis.

re: #152 Iron Fist

.41 Action Express

They made some of those especially for Jackson brand rifles, known as the .41 Action Jackson.

/

re: #146 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Innuendo always struck me a dirty

Oddly enough, the word "tripod" recently took on a new meaning and visual imagery for me.

X)

re: #163 loppyd

Shall I wear my Catholic school girl outfit too?

I'll wear mine, if you'll wear yours.

re: #159 WrathofG-d

Wrath, I know your attitude. I was speaking more of a National/political attitude.

re: #170 Ben Hur

I'll wear mine, if you'll wear yours.

deal.

re: #146 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Piss Ant - it spews

re: #168 Occasional Reader

They made some of those especially for Jackson brand rifles, known as the .41 Action Jackson.

/

I thought that was the Michael Jackson. The King of pop.

re: #99 IslandLibertarian

O'Reilly is a commentator, not a news caster.

You are correct.. I was regretting that when i hit post...

re: #152 Iron Fist

.41 Action Express is a round IMI (Israel Military Industries) put out for a while. I don't think anyone other than IMI ever made a gun that used it. IIRC, you used to could get conversion kits for Uzis to the caliber, but I don't think they ever actually manufactured Uzis in that caliber.

Thanks. I don't believe I've ever encountered anyone firing that caliber.

re: #117 scottishbuzzsaw

Lizardettes, I think I may have found the perfect holiday party dress. Or not.

[Link: www.neatorama.com...]

Aww - not with those striped thights!
Now with a pair of nifty black ones ...

re: #121 Occasional Reader

I used to have a friend that was legally blind. He's also the scariest looking motherfucker I've ever met. He was damn near seven feet tall, wore a bushy beard and an eye patch. He'd already lost one eye to glaucoma, and had real trouble with the other. We'd always wanted to take him to the range, let him come in tapping his cane, line him up and let him burn out some magazines, but we just never got around to it.

re: #158 Dianna

*Dark, malevolent adorable laughter*.

re: #172 loppyd

deal.

sweeeet.

re: #169 gop_patriot

Oddly enough, the word "tripod" recently took on a new meaning and visual imagery for me.

X)

Ah, let me just bask in the after glow some

Basking

Basking

Basking

and..........

I'm spent.

re: #180 Ben Hur

sweeeet.

Some guys have all the luck

Well, the legal world seems to be quiet and I'm done with my dreaded project so I'm out.

BBL maybe...

re: #171 A Kiwi Infidel

Yofe! Musica

re: #134 apachegunner

hey, she's a redhead, as I think you are too. what else is common?

The come-hither-look that says 'closer' so I can strangle you with all eight arms?!

re: #159 WrathofG-d

The Jews don't need others telling us what to do. If you haven't noticed we succeed without their help.

I have noticed.

re: #152 Iron Fist

.41 Action Express is a round IMI (Israel Military Industries) put out for a while. I don't think anyone other than IMI ever made a gun that used it. IIRC, you used to could get conversion kits for Uzis to the caliber, but I don't think they ever actually manufactured Uzis in that caliber.

Which one do you want?

re: #145 Occasional Reader
well said OR, well said

re: #183 loppyd

Well, the legal world seems to be quiet and I'm done with my dreaded project so I'm out.

BBL maybe...

Obviously not a bankruptcy Attorney

re: #165 Peacekeeper

The cuting range?

Only if OR wears tights or something.

re: #183 loppyd

Well, the legal world seems to be quiet and I'm done with my dreaded project so I'm out.

BBL maybe...

Just like a woman...tease and run...

You alright there Ben?

re: #189 Creeping Eruption

Obviously not a bankruptcy Attorney

LOL

He's downstairs.

re: #178 Iron Fist

He was damn near seven feet tall, wore a bushy beard and an eye patch.

Just like [fill in blank]'s mom!

re: #177 yma o hyd

Aww - not with those striped thights!
Now with a pair of nifty black ones ...

Never ever ever wear horizontal stripes!

re: #190 Dianna

Only if OR wears tights or something.

if?

re: #191 Ford_Prefect

Just like a woman...tease and run...

You alright there Ben?

ahem.

re: #18 loppyd

Let me just say.....BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

A bitter brew for Kerry

Read it all. It will make you happy. :)

lurch is a weak horse. who really respects him? no one.
the O doesn't have to do anything and lurch will still follow him like a stray dog.

re: #196 loppyd

ahem.

*running away screaming

I jinxed myself. as soon as I said that the phone rang!

re: #190 Dianna

Only if OR wears tights or something.

Hey, they aren't "tights", they're leggings, okay?

If you've never auditioned for Fame, you just wouldn't understand.

re: #186 A Kiwi Infidel

I have noticed.

HERE.

...it is OUR land.....every inch!

re: #197 nyc redneck

lurch is a weak horse. who really respects him? no one.
the O doesn't have to do anything and lurch will still follow him like a stray dog.

He's generally disliked by all.

Oh, Peacekeeper and Occasional Reader!

re: #187 razorbacker

For concealed? The first.
For target firing? The last.

re: #155 Creeping Eruption

We used to do that. One time there were a couple of SLED officers working with short-barreled shotguns in the lane next to us. It was, um, interesting. I remember buying a bunch of speciality shotgun ammunition one time. The guy behind the counter asked if we were going to start a war.

We replied that we were going to finish one.

Those were the days.

[sigh]

re: #179 Occasional Reader

If you ever do make it out here, and we do go shooting, if I do better than you - as scored by some neutral soul - I am gonna sooooo decide on some embarrassing forfeit!

re: #200 Occasional Reader

I'm really sorry you were voted off So You Think You Can Dance during the opening credits.

re: #203 Joan Not of Arc

Oh, Peacekeeper and Occasional Reader!

Oui!

re: #101 Joan Not of Arc

I agree, it points out how dysfunctional our parliamentary based constitution really is. It forces our government to be very unstable during minority governments.

One has to admit, the American system is much better. Much more stable, and members can vote against their own party without the threat of being kicked out.

re: #203 Joan Not of Arc

Oh, Peacekeeper and Occasional Reader!

We're just friends. I don't like PK in that way.

re: #200 Occasional Reader

Gawd. "Fame", "The Big Chill". Why, oh why do you keep sending me back to those days...LOL.

re: #208 Peacekeeper

YAY!

re: #210 Occasional Reader

We're just friends. I don't like PK in that way.

Everyone knows you don't date.

re: #14 WrathofG-d

"Rape Me"

First we take Manhattan,
Then we take Berlin.

re: #210 Occasional Reader

We're just friends. I don't like PK in that way.

What?

PK and OR sitting in a tree...
:-)

re: #13 Peacekeeper

Hooh boy was that in bad taste.

Which explains why I laughed, but know better than to upding....

re: #209 allan5oh

I agree, it points out how dysfunctional our parliamentary based constitution really is. It forces our government to be very unstable during minority governments.

One has to admit, the American system is much better. Much more stable, and members can vote against their own party without the threat of being kicked out.

Tell that to Joe Lieberman!

re: #206 Dianna

If you ever do make it out here, and we do go shooting, if I do better than you

You probably will. I just bought my very first handgun, remember?

OTOH, I might take you at skeet.

re: #210 Occasional Reader

We're just friends. I don't like PK in that way.

Thats not what was overheard at the highway rest stop.

/ducking

re: #172 loppyd

Oh get a room you two!

Someone brought us this new Taurus .410/.45 pistol yesterday mates. Considering that most close combat is engaged at a few yards, there is a lot of merit in this type of weapon. I will stick to 'me 9 MM and trusty 12 gage mates. I don't have the excess cash!

re: #166 WrathofG-d

How many American citizens are there? What would that be per person?

Dunno - i only thought, if billions of $$ are handed out, i might as well get a handful or two ... especially as our economy is down the plughole and our government has saddled another couple billion £££ on us taxpayers, hand-outs for banks, and of course for 'hard-working families' who somehow got themselves into debt ...

I'm here.

Was *ahem* seeing a legal aide, about some.....business.

re: #200 Occasional Reader

Hey, they aren't "tights", they're leggings, okay?

If you've never auditioned for Fame, you just wouldn't understand.

I was actively shocked last time I put on a pair of leggings. I used to look really good in them, provided I wore ankle boots.

Now? Criminy, passing 45 is just awful! My rear looked vast.

Never, ever again. Not so long as I live.

Me too!

GOP hopes Holder makes Dems squirm

re: #146 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

ONUS!

re: #187 razorbacker

This is the one I want. I can't afford to pay that much for a revolver, no matter how nice it is. It's kind of like getting a good deal on a Barret .50. $5K would be a great price, but I can't scare up that kind of money.

Conservatives form new Anglican church

Leaders of the new Anglican Church in North America unveiled a draft constitution and a set of canons for the province -- or ecclesiastical territorial division -- at an evening service at the Wheaton Evangelical Free Church in Wheaton, Illinois, the group said in a written statement.

"Some of us have been praying for this for decades," said Michael W. Howell, who attended the service, according to the statement. "Instead of focusing on things that divide us, we as orthodox Anglicans are focusing on the things that unite us."

"The public release of our draft constitution is an important concrete step toward the goal of a biblical, missionary and united Anglican Church in North America," Bishop Robert Duncan of the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, diocese said in a statement released Wednesday ahead of the service.

re: #226 WriterMom

I read to quickly and for a moment thought you called Krager and anus.

re: #211 WriterMom

Gawd. "Fame", "The Big Chill". Why, oh why do you keep sending me back to those days...LOL.

I have a friend who briefly went through a "it's really cool to wear leggings over your jeans" phase in high school (yes, these were the Fame days, and yes, he hung out somewhat with the "music room" crowd, but he's straight, really). I still taunt him about it. It's fun.

re: #184 WrathofG-d

Yofe! Musica

Thank you. Poignant

A Psalm of David.
1 The LORD is my shepherd;
I shall not want.
2 He makes me to lie down in green pastures;
He leads me beside the still waters.
3 He restores my soul;
He leads me in the paths of righteousness
For His name’s sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil;
For You are with me;
Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.

5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies;
You anoint my head with oil;
My cup runs over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me
All the days of my life;
And I will dwell[a] in the house of the LORD
Forever.

re: #108 Peacekeeper

Nekkid power drives?

Moderately arousing.

re: #194 scottishbuzzsaw

Especially not on legs!
Mind - those gloves were rather classy ...

Now I'm really gone....

Later!

Breaking on Fox: gunmet shoot terrorists at New Delhi airport.
Now Shep Smith says "Paahkistan". Has he always said it that way?

I may have missed this in an earlier discussion, but what happened to the hugging islamist + moonbat who used to be menaced by the bouncing football? Was that deemed racist?

re: #227 Iron Fist

Holy shit that is expensive.

BBC reporting that six gunmen have been shot and killed at Delhi's airport.
BBC World News

COOL!

re: #214 Spare O'Lake

First we take Manhattan,
Then we take Berlin.

How did you find Leonard Cohen? Every time I do a youtube search, I get nothing!

re: #227 Iron Fist

This is the one I want. I can't afford to pay that much for a revolver, no matter how nice it is. It's kind of like getting a good deal on a Barret .50. $5K would be a great price, but I can't scare up that kind of money.

Our wonderful new filter at work blocks gun links, so please describe what it is.

re: #235 tackle

Breaking on Fox: gunmet shoot terrorists at New Delhi airport.
Now Shep Smith says "Paahkistan". Has he always said it that way?

How about the last few years of everyone pronouncing Qatar as Cutter?

re: #229 Creeping Eruption

I read to quickly and for a moment thought you called Krager and anus.

See, she was right, the word does sound naughty.

re: #230 Occasional Reader

OMG. I'll see your male friend in leggings story and up you by one-the friend in high school who was told leather pants were stylin...a heterosexual dude.

re: #221 LoFlyer

Interesting. Never fired a shotgun round from anything other than a shotgun before.

re: #238 RightLogic

BBC reporting that six gunmen have been shot and killed at Delhi's airport.
BBC World News

What? No gunwomen?

re: #239 So?

COOL!

Very cool

re: #218 Occasional Reader

You probably will. I just bought my very first handgun, remember?

OTOH, I might take you at skeet.

Bring it on!

Palo Alto Rod & Gun Club!

re: #238 RightLogic

BBC reporting that six gunmen have been shot and killed at Delhi's airport.
BBC World News

Why is SHOOTINGS in quotes?

re: #243 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Heh.

Dusty Jerusalem -

CHICAGO (Reuters) - An analysis of rings on a stalagmite from a cave near Jerusalem reveals a drier climate in the region at a time in history when the Roman and Byzantine empires were in decline, scientists reported on Thursday.

University of Wisconsin geologists analyzed the chemical composition of individual rings as small as one-hundredth of a millimeter across that formed the stalagmite growing up from the floor of the Soreq Cave near Jerusalem between 200 B.C. and 1100 A.D..

Geologists John Valley and Ian Orland concluded the climate was drier in the eastern Mediterranean between 100 A.D. and 700 A.D., with steep drops in rainfall around 100 A.D. and 400 A.D. -- a period of waning Roman and Byzantine power in the region.

"Whether this is what weakened the Byzantines or not isn't known, but it is an interesting correlation," Valley said in a statement.

The team is now applying the same geochemical technique to examine older samples from the cave from the time of the last glacial retreat roughly 19,000 years ago, to help understand how weather patterns respond to fast-warming temperatures.

Researchers from the Geological Survey of Israel and Hebrew University in Jerusalem helped with the study, which was to appear in an upcoming issue of the journal Quaternary Research.

(Reporting by Andrew Stern)

100 AD was Trajan; this would have been the time of the Jewish provincial rebellion. Although, Judaea itself was pretty quiet.

400 AD was Arcadius (in the East). Arcadius was a pretty crappy emperor but I'm not aware that he was having trouble in greater Syria at this time. The Theodosian dynasty was more interested in juggling the Goths, Alans and Huns. At any rate after Arcadius - Theodosius II, Marcian, Leo etc were comparatively competent. It was the western half which could never get it together in the 400s.

But this may explain why (Christian) Arab nations were doing better than the native Judaeans and Samaritans by the time of Justinian a century later. Maybe Palaestina province had dried up so badly that the population went nomadic, and majority Arab...?

re: #181 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)