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Open | Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:03:57 pm PST

LGF registration is now open for a limited time. Our standard boilerplate admonition:

Read all the rules.

Commit them to memory.

Don’t register with a proxy.

Don’t register with a throwaway email address.

Don’t register more than one account.

Don’t be a jerk.

Don’t be a troll.

Do play nice.

And then everything will be groovy.

UPDATE at 12/4/08 6:03:54 pm:

That sound you heard was the registration door slamming shut, with 108 hatchlings and four re-blocked sock puppets.

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1 Outrider  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:04:57pm

And let the potential bannees line up? Or not......

2 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:05:11pm
3 Backstaber  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:05:23pm

Lets see em.

4 Thog  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:05:36pm

I want that fresh feeling again!

5 Shug  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:07:28pm

socks are for feet, not for puppets

6 USBeast  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:07:53pm

"Shut the door, they're coming through the window. Shut the window, they're coming through the door..."

7 Bloodnok  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:08:35pm

You know at LGF in the summer because of the heat and humidity you can literally smell the hatchlings.

8 Shug  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:08:49pm

Will be be trampled to death like that poor wal mart employee?

please, hatchlings : take a number. enter slowly. no stampedes please

9 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:09:03pm

New thread, new posters. After a day that made me feel old, some newness is very welcome.

10 monkeytime  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:10:07pm

Welcome little ones..

11 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:10:11pm

I suggest getting a sweet avitar...And not being a closet leftwingnut.

12 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:10:21pm

re: #5 Shug

socks are for feet, not for puppets

I'd never allow my socks to be used for puppets. The Thorlos I use cost too much.

13 Perfectsense  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:11:03pm

Register now, while dissent is still the highest form of patriotism. Soon, dissent will be the highest form of racism.

14 Thanos  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:11:39pm

Welcome hatchlings

15 Izzy Dunne  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:11:50pm

This is all because of the new server, you know.

The hamsters don't have much to do, so they need fresh meat.

Hmmm.

Does the new server mean new hamsters?

Or do the old ones take over the new machine and relax a bit?

16 Ojoe  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:12:12pm

Hello.

17 legalpad  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:12:34pm

Where do we find the total # of registered Lizards?

18 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:12:45pm
19 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:13:34pm

Donor: Obama suggested Jakarta visit

Barack Obama told a group of donors in California early last year that his first international trip would be to Muslim Indonesia, a supporter who was present recalled today.

Obama promised during the campaign to convene a Muslim summit, and the New York Times speculated today on where he would deliver a major, early address to a Muslim audience, settling on Egypt as the likeliest.

This is the second source on this that I've seen in the last hour.

Barack Obama is toying with the idea of making a speech from an Islamic capital within his first 100 days in office. The scuttlebutt is all about finding the right one. (The consensus is Cairo–which is a terrible idea. An Obama speech there would be read as a shameful acceptance of Mubarak’s oppressive rule.) But my question is: what would he say?

The global problems generating from within the Muslim world today are so odious and so obviously self-inflicted that any honest speech on the matter would offend and enrage Muslims the world over. At the same time, because of these very problems, a softball speech about Islam’s current role in global affairs would look like cowardly capitulation. If Obama splits the difference and mixes lukewarm praise with lukewarm condemnation, the stunt will be seen rightly as meaningless.

/again, what could possibly go wrong with this idea?

20 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:13:47pm

re: #17 legalpad

I seem to recall the number is somewhere around 20,000.

21 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:13:54pm

Welcome all.

22 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:14:18pm

re: #18 ploome hineni

...........aaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm in! !

Where is "Rancher", he always misses open reg for his kid.

23 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:14:39pm

Hey newbies- Hope you're all feeling groovy for being able to finally join us! I know I was when I finally made it!

24 coquimbojoe  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:14:44pm

From sad experience, my advice is no sock puppets. The lizard king no likey.

And welcome to the fray all newbies!

25 Karridine  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:14:59pm

Ever since learning of the psychological problem inherent in 'nice' (nice guys finish last, Nice Guy/Bitch Syndrome) I prefer playing courteously to playing nice...

/but that's just me...

26 Soona'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:15:09pm

re: #18 ploome hineni

...........aaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm in! !

I thought you've been here for a while.

27 ahaygood  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:15:19pm

Oh sweet Victory!

28 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:15:19pm

re: #5 Shug

socks are for feet, not for puppets

I thought my sock might want to register, but it just lays there looking slightly fluffy hoping I'll put it in my sock drawer.

29 debutaunt  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:15:42pm

re: #18 ploome hineni

...........aaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm in! !

You big faker.

30 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:15:51pm

re: #22 VegasRick

Where is "Rancher", he always misses open reg for his kid.

Can we register "Rustler" for him, and his kid can change the password?

31 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:15:55pm
32 Shug  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:16:06pm

re: #18 ploome hineni

...........aaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm in! !

it's an angry pirate

33 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:16:26pm
34 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:17:03pm

Obama looking for perfect place for speech.

35 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:17:18pm

re: #31 ploome hineni

I have him locked in my closet

Hey! You just got in! You have to be here at least a week before you can lock anyone in your closet!
/Oh.

36 Izzy Dunne  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:17:25pm

re: #19 Killian Bundy

where he would deliver a major, early address to a Muslim audience, settling on Egypt as the likeliest.

Why not Dearborn, Michigan? It's cheaper.

37 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:18:01pm

re: #33 ploome hineni

no It wasn;t me

I am innocent

Yeah, right.

38 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:18:13pm

re: #36 Izzy Dunne

Why not Dearborn, Michigan? It's cheaper.

Too many muslims.
/

39 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:18:24pm

re: #34 NYCHardhat

Obama looking for perfect place for speech.

/well, that makes three sources, see #19

40 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:18:25pm

re: #34 NYCHardhat

Obama looking for perfect place for speech.

Oog. I don't like the sound of this.

41 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:18:31pm

re: #34 NYCHardhat

Obama looking for perfect place for speech.

Is it just me, or does this like to give more speeches than most dictators?

42 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:18:32pm

Schweine

43 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:18:58pm

Hmmm....Should I watch that stinker of a football game or hang out here?

44 isiah  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:19:37pm

yes finally! I have read lgf for years. i kept on missing the window last time by 15 minutes. Tom the Pooklekufr first showed me this site. Thank you for having me

45 2by2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:19:42pm

cute, to have all these hatchlings crawling around.....welcome!

46 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:19:46pm

re: #34 NYCHardhat

Obama looking for perfect place for speech.

ploome's closet?

47 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:19:53pm

re: #43 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hmmm....Should I watch that stinker of a football game or hang out here?

It shouldn't be too bad. Chargers/Raiders matchups are usually good watching even if the teams are worst in the league.

48 legalpad  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:20:07pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

I seem to recall the number is somewhere around 20,000.

Thanks.

49 Right mind left  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:20:16pm

re: #30 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Can we register "Rustler" for him, and his kid can change the password?

Would that make him a gunny sack puppet?

50 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:20:27pm

re: #39 Killian Bundy

/well, that makes three sources, see #19

The trifecta. Its gotta be true, its the NY Times.

/re: #40 Dark_Falcon

Oog. I don't like the sound of this.

That makes 48% of us.

51 Soona'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:20:36pm

re: #33 ploome hineni

no It wasn;t me

I am innocent

So the other Ploome wasn't innocent?
/

52 HelloDare  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:21:08pm

re: #34 NYCHardhat

Dearborn was my first thought.

53 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:21:29pm

re: #43 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hmmm....Should I watch that stinker of a football game or hang out here?

Hang out here, that is no game.

54 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:21:42pm

re: #52 HelloDare

Dearborn was my first thought.

Why would he do that? He is the world's president.

55 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:22:41pm
56 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:23:06pm

re: #44 isiah

yes finally! I have read lgf for years. i kept on missing the window last time by 15 minutes. Tom the Pooklekufr first showed me this site. Thank you for having me

Welcome! I'll have a gin and tonic.

57 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:23:50pm

re: #34 NYCHardhat

Obama looking for perfect place for speech.

First words out of his mouth:

Ashadu an la ilaha illa illa-ilah, wa ashadu anna muhammadan rasul ullah.

/Muslim crowd goes wild, America has it's first Muslim President

58 Racer X  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:23:53pm

Did anyone else catch the Victoria's Secret special last night on CBS in HD?

Yowza!

59 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:23:58pm

re: #41 CyanSnowHawk

Is it just me, or does this like to give more speeches than most dictators?

Its not you.

60 2by2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:24:00pm

re: #44 isiah

yes finally! I have read lgf for years. i kept on missing the window last time by 15 minutes. Tom the Pooklekufr first showed me this site. Thank you for having me

Welcome!

61 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:24:03pm
62 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:24:48pm

re: #49 Right mind left

Would that make him a gunny sack puppet?

Nah, I wouldn't think so. Rancher said his son's nic would be Rustler.

63 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:24:52pm

re: #19 Killian Bundy

Oh, joy. Obama is going to be such a good President. From the perspective of the Enemies of the United States, of course. I think they're calling that "otherly Patriotic" these days. Treason has such negative connotions, after all.

64 k2crimson  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:24:59pm

Hah, finally. And I've been visiting LGF off and on for over five years. (I must have the worst timing imaginable!) At least the curse is now broken, seemingly.

65 Soona'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:25:01pm

re: #57 Killian Bundy

/Muslim crowd goes wild, America has it's first Muslim President

Okay. I'll bite. What did he say?

66 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:25:05pm
67 2by2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:25:10pm

OMG: the Rangers loosing 4:0 in Montreal in the beginning of the second period.

68 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:25:13pm

re: #4 Thog

I want that fresh feeling again!

/leave it alone, Noam.

69 Izzy Dunne  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:25:16pm

re: #44 isiah

Thank you for having me

Thank you for being had.

Rum and Coke for me, please.

70 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:25:25pm

re: #57 Killian Bundy

/Muslim crowd goes wild, America has it's first Muslim President

Its kind of comical. The string of events that have led us to having a narcissistic douche bag for a president.

71 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:25:35pm

re: #57 Killian Bundy

/Muslim crowd goes wild, America has it's first Muslim President

Oh, I hope not. On the other hand, his approval rating would drop like a stone if he did that.

72 isiah  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:25:38pm

re: #60 2by2

thankx

73 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:25:43pm

re: #61 ploome hineni

damn

will I get into trouble?

Anyone with a karma over 4,000 can't get into trouble.

74 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:26:06pm

re: #58 Racer X

Did anyone else catch the Victoria's Secret special last night on CBS in HD?

Yowza!

Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer was on CBS at 7 CST. Did Victoria's Secret show follow that?

75 isiah  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:26:19pm

re: #69 Izzy Dunne

sure thing anyone in the buffalo NY area is welcome to come by for a drink. haha

77 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:26:25pm

Welcome Hatchlings.

Charles, I got logged off again when I jumped over to this thread. It seems to be regular occurrence. Is there some sort of timer that logs users off if they don't post within a certain time frame? Using Firefox 3.0.4, Windows XP sp3.

78 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:26:36pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

Oh, I hope not. On the other hand, his approval rating would drop like a stone if he did that.

Sadly, I think they wouldn't considering how anally PC this country has gotten.

79 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:26:47pm
80 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:27:04pm

Charles -

Thanks for letting me in.

Z

81 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:27:09pm
82 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:27:12pm

re: #25 Karridine

I'm a cast iron motherfucker. "Nice" is a city in Frogistan.

83 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:27:17pm

re: #65 Soona'

Okay. I'll bite. What did he say?

/the Shahada, all that's required to convert to Islam

85 Racer X  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:27:22pm

re: #74 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer was on CBS at 7 CST. Did Victoria's Secret show follow that?

Yes it did.

I like The Ting Tings

86 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:27:28pm

re: #65 Soona'

Okay. I'll bite. What did he say?

I think that it means: "There is no God but Allah, Mohammad is the Messenger of Allah". It's the Islamic proclamation of faith.

87 FrogMarch  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:27:33pm

re: #34 NYCHardhat

oops - you beat me to it.

holy cow. he wants to please the jihad and the death cult crowd.

88 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:27:44pm

re: #64 k2crimson

Hah, finally. And I've been visiting LGF off and on for over five years. (I must have the worst timing imaginable!) At least the curse is now broken, seemingly.

Welcome K2. I once tried to register, had everything filled, and clicked to submit only to be told that registration had closed.

89 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:28:02pm

No hope for Normy now, Killian. Al's lead over 11,000.

WTF?

90 USBeast  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:28:10pm

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Schweine

I like it. It's got sty...le.

91 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:29:00pm

re: #87 FrogMarch

oops - you beat me to it.

holy cow. he wants to please the jihad and the death cult crowd.

Killian found it first. UP DING!

92 sngnsgt  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:29:12pm

Like wow man, groovy!

94 ArmyWife  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:29:24pm

Lots of registration time as of late!

95 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:29:47pm

re: #94 ArmyWife

Lots of registration time as of late!

Are we weeding out trolls?

96 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:29:53pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

Half the fucking country would be positively orgasmic if Barrack Hussein did that. We're so hosed. There's no way this shit ends that's good. Well, that's good for America at any rate.

97 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:30:45pm

re: #89 Noam Sayin'

No hope for Normy now, Killian. Al's lead over 11,000.

WTF?

When I clicked on the "Where we got our numbers" link I expected to see somebody's ass.

98 FrogMarch  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:30:46pm

re: #19 Killian Bundy

When executive foreign policy experience is lacking - you put on a dog and pony show.

99 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:30:57pm

Does the big "0" just invite himself to some Muslim capital or are there various Muslim cities vying for his presence?

100 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:31:03pm

re: #83 Killian Bundy

/the Shahada, all that's required to convert to Islam

"K-B" -

Seems to me that Christianity is at least somewhat harder, Judaism far harder yet. What does that say about Islam?

Z

101 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:31:48pm

re: #95 NYCHardhat

They tend to weed themselves out. Curious to see how many sock puppets Charles has to weed out tonight.

102 Shug  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:31:48pm

re: #34 NYCHardhat

Obama looking for perfect place for speech.

President-elect Barack Obama’s aides say he is considering making a major foreign policy speech from an Islamic capital during his first 100 days in office

Dearborn, Michigan will do nicely.
Detroit is too dangerous

103 Soona'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:32:02pm

re: #83 Killian Bundy

/the Shahada, all that's required to convert to Islam

Please, someone. Tell me. Why does this seem so...er...well...plausible.

104 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:32:21pm

re: #100 Zuckie

"K-B" -

Seems to me that Christianity is at least somewhat harder, Judaism far harder yet. What does that say about Islam?

Z

They suck?

105 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:32:28pm

re: #93 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I hear Dearborn Michigan is nice in the winter!
/

Baghdad would be a good choice, but I doubt he's ever going to step foot there - not when he opposed liberating the country from a genocidal dictator and might actually have to explain his statements before becoming President.

106 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:32:30pm

re: #76 FrogMarch

WTF?

President-elect Barack Obama’s aides say he is considering making a major foreign policy speech from an Islamic capital during his first 100 days in office.

Yeah - this nucking fut is probably going to get some SS Agents maimed or possibly killed to satisfy his ego.

re: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

death threat.

107 gymmom  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:32:30pm

re: #89 Noam Sayin'

When did this happen?

108 k2crimson  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:32:34pm

re: #88 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Thanks! And yep, I've done that too---I spent too much time thinking of a witty username and missed the window of opportunity. This time I just typed in the first random thing that came to mind and went with it.

109 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:32:38pm

re: #99 IslandLibertarian

Does the big "0" just invite himself to some Muslim capital or are there various Muslim cities vying for his presence?

They want him to drink his own kool aid.

110 johnjdick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:32:42pm

Holy carp! I've been a casual reader of this site for years, always missing out on the opportunity to register. FINALLY! It's like Christmas came early this year. Too bad it came AFTER the election. I had some choice comments I would have liked to have made these past months.

Introduction: My name is John Dick. I do hope that this doesn't cause any offense, but it really is my legal name. I'm a vet of the '91 Gulf War. I worked as a radio DJ for many years, and am now currently working as a DJ at a strip club in Dallas TX. I've also done voice acting for video games.

I was married to a rocket scientist (aerospace engineer is the technical term). Got divorced about a year ago. No kids or property, relatively clean divorce. We both had just drifted apart over the years. No love lost, we still keep in touch. Now she's focusing on her career, and I'm nailing strippers.

Politically, I'm a Libertarian. I believe in a limited government (unlike EVERY politician in office). Religiously, I'm agnostic. I really don't give a rat's posterior about a person's religious beliefs, provided they don't try to force them upon me.

That about sums it up. Glad to be here. Let's hope I don't screw up too badly during the initiate period, and get my butt kicked out. I do promise to try to behave myself... though, I admit to having a ornery streak that gets me into trouble at times. Though, it usually only surfaces when I'm drunk at bars, trying to hit on the ladies.

111 FrogMarch  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:33:13pm

re: #93 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

He's looking for one-world impact.

112 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:33:13pm

re: #103 Soona'


Hussein if I know.

113 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:33:16pm

re: #97 VegasRick

Nice one.

The real count is more like 300 in Norm's favor. I'd provide a link to the StarTrib's ballot counter, but they seem to have lost heart, and have taken it down.

114 Right mind left  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:33:32pm

re: #94 ArmyWife

Lots of registration time as of late!

Recruiting more lizards!

115 ArmyWife  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:33:33pm

re: #93 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Oh for Pete's sake. What is he going to say? "Ahmadinejad! Tear down these nuke plants!" followed by hysterical laughter and "I was just kidding, brother, you know that! Oh it was funny though! Hey! Do they have Burkas in Super Extra Tall for Michelle I was thinking back at the hotel....you know... wink"

116 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:33:43pm

re: #99 IslandLibertarian

Does the big "0" just invite himself to some Muslim capital or are there various Muslim cities vying for his presence?

Dearborn Michigan invited him ?

117 Steffan  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:33:48pm

re: #47 CyanSnowHawk

It shouldn't be too bad. Chargers/Raiders matchups are usually good watching even if the teams are worst in the league.

Raiders fans almost put the "there" in Oakland.

118 2by2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:33:51pm

re: #83 Killian Bundy

Recitation of the Shahadah is the most important of the Five Pillars of Islam for Muslims and is performed daily as part of the Salat.
it's just a part of the daily salad, man.

119 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:34:43pm

re: #104 VegasRick

They suck?

Rick -

Must AIN'T doesn't sound right to me in this case.

Z

120 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:34:57pm

re: #107 gymmom

When did this happen?

Consider the source, gymmom. Minnesota Public Radio is even more left that National Public Radio. The numbers are ginned up.

That's hip-speak for "bullshit."

121 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:35:07pm

re: #89 Noam Sayin'

No hope for Normy now, Killian. Al's lead over 11,000.

WTF?

Damn, quite the stunning reversal with only two lesser counties still left wrapping up their recounting.

/someone better call the Strib, they're going to want to know about this, they still have Norm up by 315 with 97% of the recounted votes in the barn already

122 FrogMarch  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:35:08pm

re: #106 Bobibutu

Yeah - this nucking fut is probably going to get some SS Agents maimed or possibly killed to satisfy his ego.

re: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

death threat.

Obama is going to convert Islam to his way of thinking.

*laughs*

123 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:36:03pm

re: #110 johnjdick

Holy carp! I've been a casual reader of this site for years, always missing out on the opportunity to register. FINALLY! It's like Christmas came early this year. Too bad it came AFTER the election. I had some choice comments I would have liked to have made these past months.

Introduction: My name is John Dick. I do hope that this doesn't cause any offense, but it really is my legal name. I'm a vet of the '91 Gulf War. I worked as a radio DJ for many years, and am now currently working as a DJ at a strip club in Dallas TX. I've also done voice acting for video games.

I was married to a rocket scientist (aerospace engineer is the technical term). Got divorced about a year ago. No kids or property, relatively clean divorce. We both had just drifted apart over the years. No love lost, we still keep in touch. Now she's focusing on her career, and I'm nailing strippers.

Politically, I'm a Libertarian. I believe in a limited government (unlike EVERY politician in office). Religiously, I'm agnostic. I really don't give a rat's posterior about a person's religious beliefs, provided they don't try to force them upon me.

That about sums it up. Glad to be here. Let's hope I don't screw up too badly during the initiate period, and get my butt kicked out. I do promise to try to behave myself... though, I admit to having a ornery streak that gets me into trouble at times. Though, it usually only surfaces when I'm drunk at bars, trying to hit on the ladies.

God - you will fit right in... welcome.

124 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:36:07pm

re: #100 Zuckie

"K-B" -

Seems to me that Christianity is at least somewhat harder, Judaism far harder yet. What does that say about Islam?

Z

I went to classes for 5 years before I was allowed to join my current church.

125 clyde101  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:37:17pm

hehe
It reminds me of the Mel Gibson movie "Signs" when all the aliens are trying to get in the house.
Welcome

126 Empire1  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:37:21pm

OT:

Want to hear a stunner? (at least it stunned me ... ) Came back from jury duty today to find the landlord had bought Mr. Empire a John Deere lawnmower! Granted, Mr. E has been doing at least half the grass area since we moved in, even though the landlord said he'd mow the whole thing, and has been providing gas and some maintenance money for our old mower -- but this? WHOOF!

127 pjaicomo  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:37:32pm

FINALLY! I have had the worst luck registering on LGF. After years, I can die content.

Hello all.

128 gop_patriot  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:37:37pm

re: #110 johnjdick

Welcome! Glad you made it in.

Oh, and a preemptive *whack*, just because I have a feeling you'll be needing one sometime in the near future. LOL ;)

129 ArmyWife  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:37:37pm

re: #110 johnjdick

ummm... well, welcome?

130 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:38:02pm

re: #96 Iron Fist

Half the fucking country would be positively orgasmic if Barrack Hussein did that. We're so hosed. There's no way this shit ends that's good. Well, that's good for America at any rate.

You overestimate his support, Iron Fist. I would say that only 35% percent of the country would take such an action favorably. Islam is not that popular here. Just because people aren't openly being open hostile to something, doesn't mean they like it. Nor does it mean they won't turn openly hostile if they perceive it to be becoming a greater threat.

131 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:38:03pm

re: #113 Noam Sayin'

Nice one.

The real count is more like 300 in Norm's favor. I'd provide a link to the StarTrib's ballot counter, but they seem to have lost heart, and have taken it down.

Coleman is going to win, then the lawyers will pounce. Sites like that are just there so that the morons can say something stupid like "Wow man, Coleman must have cheated because Franklin was so far ahead with only 3% left to count"

132 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:38:03pm

re: #110 johnjdick

Holy carp! I've been a casual reader of this site for years, always missing out on the opportunity to register. FINALLY! It's like Christmas came early this year. Too bad it came AFTER the election. I had some choice comments I would have liked to have made these past months.

Introduction: My name is John Dick. I do hope that this doesn't cause any offense, but it really is my legal name. I'm a vet of the '91 Gulf War. I worked as a radio DJ for many years, and am now currently working as a DJ at a strip club in Dallas TX. I've also done voice acting for video games.

I was married to a rocket scientist (aerospace engineer is the technical term). Got divorced about a year ago. No kids or property, relatively clean divorce. We both had just drifted apart over the years. No love lost, we still keep in touch. Now she's focusing on her career, and I'm nailing strippers.
Politically, I'm a Libertarian. I believe in a limited government (unlike EVERY politician in office). Religiously, I'm agnostic. I really don't give a rat's posterior about a person's religious beliefs, provided they don't try to force them upon me.

That about sums it up. Glad to be here. Let's hope I don't screw up too badly during the initiate period, and get my butt kicked out. I do promise to try to behave myself... though, I admit to having a ornery streak that gets me into trouble at times. Though, it usually only surfaces when I'm drunk at bars, trying to hit on the ladies.

And I'm your new bestest Lizard Buddy !

133 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:38:19pm

re: #118 2by2

Recitation of the Shahadah is the most important of the Five Pillars of Islam for Muslims and is performed daily as part of the Salat.
it's just a part of the daily salad, man.

2 by 2 -

Seems our President-Elect has recited it on numerous times during his youth in Indonesia. The real question is - DOES HE BELIEVE IT? - a question that to date has NOT been answered to my satisfaction, or for that matter to the satisfaction of many Muslims.

Z

134 Shug  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:38:31pm

re: #127 pjaicomo

FINALLY! I have had the worst luck registering on LGF. After years, I can die content.

Hello all.


Karma +1

135 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:38:42pm

Welcome hatchlings! Hoping that Rustler finally makes it in.

136 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:38:44pm

re: #121 Killian Bundy

I heard Soucheray talking about it on my drive home tonight. Had to check it out.

I noticed the Strib took down their front-page counter, and don't really feature the count anywhere on the designated page.

137 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:38:50pm
138 Clemente  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:38:52pm

Crazy lizard.
Gets a shiny new server, spiffs it up extra nice,
Then throws a party and invites the whole town!

Poor Mr Beaumont.
"You darn kids keep the hell outta my yard!"

139 ArmyWife  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:38:56pm

re: #116 sattv4u2

Maybe he means GB or France. That could confuse anyone, really.

140 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:39:33pm

re: #132 sattv4u2

And I'm your new bestest Lizard Buddy !

I was just the other day thinking of a road trip to Dallas. ;-)

141 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:39:37pm
142 Soona'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:39:37pm

That's it folks. Gotta go. Welcome to the new lizards! Have fun.

143 ArmyWife  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:39:47pm

re: #138 Clemente

Good point. Hey! New ones! Take off your shoes before you walk on the carpet, would ya?

144 Steffan  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:39:52pm

re: #96 Iron Fist

Like the song says,
"Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition."

Interesting graphics in this version. I like the smirking Dick Cheney-with-the-long-gun shot.

145 Charles  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:40:23pm

57...

146 Spider Mensch  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:40:25pm

re: #125 clyde101

hehe
It reminds me of the Mel Gibson movie "Signs" when all the aliens are trying to get in the house.
Welcome


hmmm..more like "Night of the Living Dead" after reading one of the hatchling comment above.

147 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:40:33pm
148 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:40:37pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

You overestimate his support, Iron Fist. I would say that only 35% percent of the country would take such an action favorably. Islam is not that popular here. Just because people aren't openly being open hostile to something, doesn't mean they like it. Nor does it mean they won't turn openly hostile if they perceive it to be becoming a greater threat.

I don't think most people are open to higher taxes, weaker foreign policy, socialist agenda, racist/terrorist ties, etc. But somehow, he was elected our president. Something doesn't add up. I'm with fist.

149 Alouette  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:40:39pm

Buy stuff at the Zionist Mall. Earn karma.

150 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:40:40pm

re: #141 ploome hineni

your wife still out of town?

Yes ,, and she took the strippers pole with her !

151 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:40:42pm

re: #137 ploome hineni

he already screwed up!

he is nailing strippers

no one want to know what you do with your peepee

/thankyewverymuch

Hammer ploome - hammer!

152 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:41:24pm

re: #136 Noam Sayin'

I I noticed the Strib took down their front-page counter.

/it's still up

153 2by2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:41:38pm

re: #133 Zuckie

2 by 2 -

Seems our President-Elect has recited it on numerous times during his youth in Indonesia. The real question is - DOES HE BELIEVE IT? - a question that to date has NOT been answered to my satisfaction, or for that matter to the satisfaction of many Muslims.

Z

yeah, that doesn't really matter to the boys of the ROP, they believe he's an apostate of Islam and therefore has the choice between death and submission

154 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:41:50pm

My hope is that if he does go to some Islamic capitol and give a speech, he won't embrace Islam or sell out the US, but he will see this as his golden moment to try to get them to all turn communist to "Islamic" Liberation Theology. That would go over well, I'm sure.

155 ArmyWife  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:42:22pm

re: #126 Empire1

That's a good day!

156 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:42:41pm

re: #149 Alouette

Buy stuff at the Zionist Mall. Earn karma.

I'm still waiting for my Zionist check, dammit!

157 Racer X  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:42:42pm

Welcome Newbies!

Keep in mind there are lots of Lady Lizards present.

/we'll post pictures of them later on tonight.

158 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:43:03pm

re: #145 Charles

57...

I'm running out of hors douvres !

159 Empire1  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:43:07pm

Has Rustler made it in yet?

And welcome to all the new lizards who have! I'll take a cold glass of Chianti, please.

160 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:43:13pm

re: #150 sattv4u2

Yes ,, and she took the strippers pole with her !

That's what that thing is!
/Opps.

161 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:43:21pm

re: #138 Clemente

Clemente -

My encourager in joining LGF has already told me about "Stinky" - That which recommends the Banning Bat along with working for lettuce.

Z

162 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:43:35pm

re: #157 Racer X

Welcome Newbies!

Keep in mind there are lots of Lady Lizards present.

/we'll post pictures of them later on tonight.

Smack!

163 callahan23  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:43:54pm

re: #150 sattv4u2

Yes ,, and she took the strippers pole with her !

Very bad sign indeed.

164 Steffan  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:43:59pm

re: #121 Killian Bundy

Power Line has a slightly different take on it.

Franken isn't talking or acting like a winner. As I wrote on Power Line this week, I conclude that Franken anticipates losing the recount.

Franken has already resorted to litigation over rejected absentee ballots and threatened further litigation over the rejection of certain absentee ballots. He has met with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on the subject and won Reid's expression of concern, implicitly raising the threat that the Senate Democratic majority may overturn the result reached in Minnesota if the rejected absentee ballots in issue aren't counted. Al Franken hasn't been funny in a very long time, but that is really unfunny.

165 ArmyWife  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:43:59pm

re: #157 Racer X

Hey! You told me you deleted that file!

166 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:44:00pm

re: #160 VegasRick

That's what that thing is!
/Opps.

Make sure you shine it up before she gets back. You know how to shine a pole, don't ya !?!?!?!

167 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:44:32pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

I'd like to believe that you are right. I'm not sure that I do, though. Most of the country isn't paying attention. If they were, Obama would not be the President-elect. Obama has way too many troubling questions out there. Questions that he has simply refused to answer. His association with the Weather Underground terrorists or his attending the racist, anti-American church alone would have been enough to kill him (figuratively speaking).

If he were to publicly convert to Mohammedanism most of the electorate would yawn. And wonder what Obama was going to do about the Economy.

168 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:44:36pm

re: #163 callahan23

Very bad sign indeed.

Not really ,,,we need the cash !

169 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:44:49pm

She needs your dollars. Please help. *vomit*

170 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:44:52pm

re: #152 Killian Bundy

/it's still up

Huh... When I open the site, I don't see the count as it has typically been featured. Then when I click onto that page, I get "This page requires AC_RunActiveContent.js."

Maybe I'm in need of an update or something, but I know it was working for me yesterday.

171 Charles  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:45:34pm

Turned on Fox News and I see that O'Reilly is doing his yearly Christmas season freak-out.

172 yah  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:45:56pm

re: #110 johnjdick
My real name is Bull Shit

173 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:46:21pm

re: #171 Charles

Turned on Fox News and I see that O'Reilly is doing his yearly Christmas season freak-out.

What's different about Christmas? Does he get extra freaky-outy?

174 Empire1  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:46:29pm

re: #155 ArmyWife

That's a good day!

Well, the ending was good, at any rate! I'll bore y'all with the rest of the week once it's over and I'm allowed to talk about it.

Wonder what the penalty is for a juror strangling a particularly obnoxious lawyer?

175 gop_patriot  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:46:29pm

re: #171 Charles

Turned on Fox News and I see that O'Reilly is doing his yearly Christmas season freak-out.


Sounds exciting! What's he ranting about tonight?

/don't get Fox News

176 Shug  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:46:55pm

let me guess, the lady at the loofah store said Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas

177 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:46:55pm

re: #172 yah

My real name is Bull Shit

I once knew a guy by the name of Jack Shit. he didn't like it at all. He had it legally changed

to John

178 callahan23  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:47:00pm

re: #168 sattv4u2

Not really ,,,we need the cash !

So you are not the jealous type.

179 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:47:24pm

re: #148 NYCHardhat

I don't think most people are open to higher taxes, weaker foreign policy, socialist agenda, racist/terrorist ties, etc. But somehow, he was elected our president. Something doesn't add up. I'm with fist.

People wanted to "throw the bums out" over the economy. Obama had charisma and did not talk like a leftie. Don't make the mistake of assuming that ost people are well informed about politics as the regular poster here. Most people do not really look into candidates and too many of them get their information from the MSM.

180 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:47:48pm

re: #171 Charles

Turned on Fox News and I see that O'Reilly is doing his yearly Christmas season freak-out.

You mean he's not blabbing about the oil companies' price-fixing/gouging anymore?

/I wonder why that is...

181 Summersong  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:48:02pm

It's always a little strange for me to see new lizards say they have waited years to register and then see them ask, "what does PIMF mean?"...

182 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:48:08pm

re: #178 callahan23

So you are not the jealous type.

Well ,,, if the cash ever went away ,,,,,,,,,

183 YINever  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:48:22pm

lol, a nub here. I've been wanting to register for a long time.

184 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:48:23pm

re: #153 2by2

yeah, that doesn't really matter to the boys of the ROP, they believe he's an apostate of Islam and therefore has the choice between death and submission

2by2 -

Some Choice! Look, I'm over 70 and voted for McCain as a smaller weevil. Obama won and will be our President. Not my choice, but, "our" choice as US Voters. I wish him luck, he will need it.

Z

185 Racer X  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:48:42pm

re: #172 yah

My real name is Bull Shit

Were you married to a rocket scientist and dumped her to nail strippers?

186 Shug  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:48:54pm

re: #183 YINever

nice nic.
welcome

187 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:49:41pm

re: #180 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You mean he's not blabbing about the oil companies' price-fixing/gouging anymore?

/I wonder why that is...

The way he does that is kind of convenient. When some lefty moron starts carrying on about the same thing, you can tell him, "You know, you have a lot in common with Bill O'Reilly."

That's usually pretty good for some fireworks.

188 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:49:44pm

re: #186 Shug
YINever

nice nic.
welcome

Maybe he/ she SHOULD !

189 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:50:04pm

re: #179 Dark_Falcon

People wanted to "throw the bums out" over the economy. Obama had charisma and did not talk like a leftie. Don't make the mistake of assuming that ost people are well informed about politics as the regular poster here. Most people do not really look into candidates and too many of them get their information from the MSM.

Couldn't agree with you more, but I think this guy can rob his own mother and people wouldn't care. He has carte blanche.

190 callahan23  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:50:04pm

re: #177 sattv4u2

I once knew a guy by the name of Jack Shit. he didn't like it at all. He had it legally changed

to John

re: #182 sattv4u2

Well ,,, if the cash ever went away ,,,,,,,,,

ROFLMAO

191 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:50:05pm

re: #171 Charles

Turned on Fox News and I see that O'Reilly is doing his yearly Christmas season freak-out.

His reporting on the attacks on Christmas is useful. The left's attacks on Christmas are the deeds of those who would strip the day of all real meaning. Such deeds should be exposed.

192 jaunte  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:50:15pm

re: #171 Charles

Hearing that playing from the den, I was just thinking I'd like to smack him with a copy of the Constitution.

193 eff  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:50:41pm

i must admit, even though i'm registered, i get a thrill from catching an open window.

194 sngnsgt  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:50:43pm

re: #181 Summersong

Shhh, the meaning of PIMF is as sacred as the secret handshake. ;-)

195 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:51:17pm

re: #187 CyanSnowHawk

The way he does that is kind of convenient. When some lefty moron starts carrying on about the same thing, you can tell him, "You know, you have a lot in common with Bill O'Reilly."

That's usually pretty good for some fireworks.

LOL! Upding for that idea!

196 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:51:18pm

Hendrik Hertzberg...useful idiot.

197 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:51:38pm

re: #189 NYCHardhat

Couldn't agree with you more, but I think this guy can rob his own mother and people wouldn't care. He has carte blanche.

Not for long. His allure will fade if his does not post some successes. The good news is: I think he understands this.

198 Empire1  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:51:55pm

Good grief ... if that idjit O'Reilly is ranting again, maybe I ought to try to find my own rant about a Pagan defending Christmas, and re-post it. ::sigh::

199 2by2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:52:02pm

re: #184 Zuckie

2by2 -

Some Choice! Look, I'm over 70 and voted for McCain as a smaller weevil. Obama won and will be our President. Not my choice, but, "our" choice as US Voters. I wish him luck, he will need it.

Z

Yep he's the next president and hopefully he won't f..k it up, I certainly hope he'll do well.
I am fighting some fits of doubt though.

200 Charles  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:52:02pm

82...

Four blocked socks already.

201 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:52:19pm

re: #164 Steffan

Power Line has a slightly different take on it.

Yeah, after Franken loses, th U.S. Senate takes it up and refuses to seat Norm. Gee, how radioactive do you think that might be? I'd also be incredibly stupid, seeing as how Chambliss already won.

/but hey, go for it, I triple dog dare you!

202 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:52:47pm

re: #197 Dark_Falcon

Not for long. His allure will fade if his does not post some successes. The good news is: I think he understands this.

Which is why he is sifting through the island of misfit politicians. I hear ya.

203 eff  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:52:51pm

Re: 191re: #191 Dark_Falcon

In this country you're allowed to attack Christmas. It may not be "nice," but it's allowed.

The constitution guarantees free speech, not good taste.

204 Maximu§  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:53:12pm

Welcome aboard new people.

Now go get me a beer!

205 ArmyWife  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:53:48pm

re: #200 Charles

I need this sock blocker in reverse for the dryer! That way it blocks the socks in so there is no more mysterious sock disappearing!

206 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:53:51pm

re: #194 sngnsgt

Shhh, the meaning of PIMF is as sacred as the secret handshake. ;-)

I have been briefed by my sponsor about PIMF. Will use same.

Z

207 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:54:34pm

re: #181 Summersong

It's always a little strange for me to see new lizards say they have waited years to register and then see them ask, "what does PIMF mean?"...

So what does PMIF mean?

208 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:54:39pm

re: #200 Charles

82...

Four blocked socks already.

How can you tell they're sock puppets? And are the puppets from regular posters? My guess is they're trolls/mobys trying to get an additional nic for when they eventually get whacked.

209 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:55:20pm

re: #192 jaunte

Hearing that playing from the den, I was just thinking I'd like to smack him with a copy of the Constitution.

It's a federal holiday, designated by Congress

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

210 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:55:26pm

re: #200 Charles

Let me guess. One of them was SN?

211 yah  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:55:29pm

re: #185 Racer X

re: #172 yah

My real name is Bull Shit

Were you married to a rocket scientist and dumped her to nail strippers?

No. I was married to a stripper and dumped her for a rocket scientist. Rockets really turn me on.

212 rick_too  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:55:52pm

*clears throat*
Hi, it's good to be out of that egg.

I forget, is Obama Sunni or Shia?
The, "Obama's a Muslim," thing, is a poor welcoming party, I'm sorry to say.

The party needs rebuilding, and this is how we're spending our time?
We can be better than the loony/lefty fringe, and we must.
There are elections in two years, and you can see how well the "OMG SEKRET MUZZLEM" line worked.

I know people are taking it easy after work, the weekend is coming up, and we're all just letting down our hair, but LGF has a reputation as a credible place of discussion, one Charles has worked hard to maintain.

I know, I know:
I'm Johnny Come Lately and already I've got a stick up my rear.
I guess I was hatched that way.

213 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:55:59pm

re: #204 Maximu§

Welcome aboard new people.

Now go get me a beer!

Maximus -

Over here it is the other way. My sponsor bought me one for finally registering. Could use another.

Z

214 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:56:06pm

re: #110 johnjdick

When I saw your name I thought, this has to be a joke, right? But when I googled your name, and after seeing more p0rn than even I care to see, I found your credits. You're the voice of Serious Sam? That was a pretty good game. Any way sorry for doubting you and welcome to the lizard horde.

215 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:56:07pm

re: #170 Noam Sayin'

Huh... When I open the site, I don't see the count as it has typically been featured. Then when I click onto that page, I get "This page requires AC_RunActiveContent.js."

Maybe I'm in need of an update or something, but I know it was working for me yesterday.

It's directly underneath the budget article/Pawlenty picture in the center column.

/directly to the right of the Hecker article

216 Steffan  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:56:21pm

Today's WTF news item:

More than 130,000 inflatable breasts have been lost at sea en route to Australia.

Men's magazine Ralph was planning to include the boobs as a free gift with its January issue.

The cargo is worth about $200,000, which is another blow for publisher ACP's parent company PBL, which is already in $4.3 billion of debt.

A spokeswoman for Ralph said the container left docks in Beijing two weeks ago but turned up empty in Sydney this week.

Who in the wide wide world of sports would steal 130,000 plastic toy breasts?

h/t James Taranto

217 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:56:30pm

re: #203 eff

Re: 191

In this country you're allowed to attack Christmas. It may not be "nice," but it's allowed.

The constitution guarantees free speech, not good taste.

Yes, you are allowed to attack Christmas. But you are also allowed to defend it, and that is what O'Reilly is doing. He has never called for silencing the anti-Christmas crowd, but rather resisting their demands and answering their words with pro-Christmas speech.

218 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:56:32pm

re: #200 Charles

82...

Four blocked socks already.

MAN THE PARAPETS ,,,, (or pair the manumits !)

219 callahan23  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:56:45pm

Anybody seen this already? It's "The Daily Show" with a nice commentary from Ace.
/Me thinks it funny anyways/

220 Wishing  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:56:53pm

re: #209 sattv4u2

It's a federal holiday, designated by Congress

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Um, where is The One's day in that list?

221 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:57:05pm

re: #200 Charles

82...

Four blocked socks already.

Ah, two matched pairs! /now I know where my missing socks have gone..

222 Charles  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:57:07pm

99...

223 jaunte  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:57:29pm

re: #209 sattv4u2

O'Reilly wants the Governor to remove a piece of speech he's not happy about.
No one's speech or Holiday rights are being affected, only feelings.

224 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:57:40pm
225 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:57:48pm

re: #220 Wishing

Um, where is The One's day in that list?

Open celebration. Starts January 1st of each year and runs till Dember 31st, inclusive!

226 Empire1  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:58:09pm

Bedtime for me, if I want to get up early enough to get some chores done before I gotta go up to Dover. See y'all late tomorrow, if things finish up as they're supposed to.

Take care, and stay scaley!

227 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:58:46pm
228 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:58:49pm

re: #208 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

How can you tell they're sock puppets? And are the puppets from regular posters? My guess is they're trolls/mobys trying to get an additional nic for when they eventually get whacked.

I would think a few methods would work.
Same email address
Same IP to register (not sure how effective this would be)
Obvious puppetry (ie CyanSnowSock) although I think some of that is tolerated if not abused
Lizard sense
Some new registries must just look all sock puppety

229 Joan  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 5:59:10pm

re: #212 rick_too

Welcome! um. Welcome, and very nice first post!

230 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:00:14pm

re: #223 jaunte

O'Reilly wants the Governor to remove a piece of speech he's not happy about.
No one's speech or Holiday rights are being affected, only feelings.

He can WANT anything he ,,, well,, WANTS ,,, THATS also covered under the Constitution!

231 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:00:29pm

re: #215 Killian Bundy

Not on my screen. Something's hosed, I guess. I think I lost a plug-in.

But I did find this:

KSTP, Star Tribune announce job cuts


The Star Tribune told its staff Thursday that it will eliminate up to 25 newsroom jobs through buyouts or layoffs.

Heh™

232 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:00:31pm

re: #228 CyanSnowHawk

Also the MAC address of the applicants NIC.

233 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:00:48pm

re: #216 Steffan

Today's WTF news item:

Who in the wide wide world of sports would steal 130,000 plastic toy breasts?

h/t James Taranto

Rupaul?

234 jaunte  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:00:59pm

re: #230 sattv4u2

That's right. I still want to smack him with a Constitution.

235 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:01:13pm

re: #222 Charles

99...

Sell!

236 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:01:25pm

re: #234 jaunte

That's right. I still want to smack him with a Constitution.

now thats NOT covered by it !

237 Shug  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:01:31pm

re: #222 Charles

99...


1 dollar, Bob

238 gclaghorn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:01:53pm

I remember my days as a newbie like it was just a week ago!

/Oh, wait, it was...

239 jaunte  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:01:53pm

re: #236 sattv4u2

Outlaw dreams.

240 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:01:55pm

Newt is on.

241 quercus albus  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:02:09pm

re: #200 Charles

82...

Four blocked socks already.

Charles,

What if someone wants to change their username? Is that possible? I didn't want to create a second account.

Thanks.

242 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:02:12pm

re: #239 jaunte

Outlaw dreams.

no ,, smacking of others

243 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:02:17pm

re: #224 buzzsawmonkey

How many socks can a sock blocker block if a sock blocker must block socks?

buzzsawmonkey -

WOW! I am old enough to remember the original tune about woodchucks.
Tex Benecke and what remained of the Glenn Miller Band as I recall.

Z

244 bosforus  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:02:20pm

re: #212 rick_too

Troll!
/
kidding! Welcome.

245 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:02:38pm

re: #239 jaunte


Support your local Outlaws?

246 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:02:43pm

re: #238 gclaghorn

I remember my days as a newbie like it was just a week ago!

/Oh, wait, it was...

And several days ago...

;)

247 jaunte  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:02:57pm

re: #242 sattv4u2

I understand. That's why I limit my objections to speech.

248 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:03:07pm

re: #238 gclaghorn

I remember my days as a newbie like it was just a week ago!

/Oh, wait, it was...

Upding for that! And cute bunny avatar!

249 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:03:09pm

re: #232 Bubblehead II

Also the MAC address of the applicants NIC.

The MAC address goes through? I didn't know that.

250 bravesoat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:03:33pm

I made it! I'm in the lizard army!

251 bosforus  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:03:38pm

re: #238 gclaghorn

I remember my days as a newbie like it was just a week ago!

/Oh, wait, it was...

And I thought Nicodemus was being facetious when talking about getting back in the womb. :)

252 yah  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:03:49pm

re: #216 Steffan


Who in the wide wide world of sports would steal 130,000 plastic toy breasts?

Simple: 65,000 toy men.

253 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:04:04pm

re: #250 bravesoat

I made it! I'm in the lizard army!

Just in time. We got 'taters to peel.

Now, drop and give us 20.

254 gclaghorn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:04:14pm

re: #250 bravesoat

I made it! I'm in the lizard army!

Welcome. Please remember to fill out the appropriate forms so you can start receiving your Zionist Checks.

255 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:04:25pm

re: #250 bravesoat

I made it! I'm in the lizard army!

Welcome to the ranks, soldier.

256 semutasmoke  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:04:26pm

Woo-HOO! I *finally* got in! I've been waiting for almost a year to notice "The gates are now open" that doesn't end with "... Closed, with 136 new hatchlings".

WOO HOO!

257 Joan  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:04:29pm

re: #41 CyanSnowHawk

Is it just me, or does this like to give more speeches than most dictators?

It's what he excels at

258 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:04:45pm

Sounds like the Chargers are destroying the Raiders. 2nd Quarter and 17-0.

259 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:04:55pm

Hey, new meat!

OK, new kids, you're buying the rounds tonight!

260 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:05:03pm

re: #247 jaunte

I understand. That's why I limit my objections to speech.

you object to speech? I thought you were PRO constitution!

(sorry ,, just pulling your leg!)

261 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:05:34pm
262 gop_patriot  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:05:47pm

re: #258 CyanSnowHawk

Sounds like the Chargers are destroying the Raiders. 2nd Quarter and 17-0.

Is this game on TV? We can't seem to find it...

263 jaunte  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:05:49pm

re: #260 sattv4u2

AAiieee!

264 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:05:56pm

re: #256 semutasmoke

Woo-HOO! I *finally* got in! I've been waiting for almost a year to notice "The gates are now open" that doesn't end with "... Closed, with 136 new hatchlings".

WOO HOO!

semutasmoke -

Woo-HOO! for Me-TOO!

Z

265 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:05:57pm

re: #250 bravesoat

I made it! I'm in the lizard army!

But you're only a private, so you have to salute those of us with more seniority. Welcome!

266 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:06:12pm

re: #200 Charles

82...

Four blocked socks already.

Darned socks!

267 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:06:35pm

Stop Using the Word ‘Islam’ in Reports on Terrorism, Islamic Bloc Says

Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) had its way, media reporting on terrorist activity would exclude “any reference to Islam” – whatever the affiliation, identity or motivation of the perpetrators.

The bloc of Islamic nations, which is spearheading a drive at the United Nations to have the “defamation” of Islam outlawed, this week voiced criticism about media coverage of recent terrorist attacks.

Without citing any specific attack, the OIC’s Jeddah-based general secretariat said in a statement it had “noticed a tendency of a section of the media, to interpose the word ‘Islam’ in reporting these incidences.”

Right, why don't you just spend your time and energy toward ending Muslim terrorism, then none of this will be a problem for anyone, win win for everyone.

/what's wrong with Islam in a nutshell

268 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:06:45pm

re: #262 gop_patriot

Is this game on TV? We can't seem to find it...

Most of he country can't. It's on the NFL Network. Most cable systems don't carry it

269 johnjdick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:06:53pm

Thanks, bud. Yeah, that would be me. It was a fun little game. I really enjoyed working on it.

re: #214 Neo Con since 9-11

270 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:06:58pm

re: #256 semutasmoke

Woo-HOO! I *finally* got in! I've been waiting for almost a year to notice "The gates are now open" that doesn't end with "... Closed, with 136 new hatchlings".

WOO HOO!

Settle down now.
///

271 Joan  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:07:06pm

re: #198 Empire1

Good grief ... if that idjit O'Reilly is ranting again, maybe I ought to try to find my own rant about a Pagan defending Christmas, and re-post it. ::sigh::

Happy Holidays, Pagan Defender!

272 JacksonTn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:07:06pm

Good evening Lizards ....and welcom new hatchlings ...

Just back from Atlanta on business ...second store chain in a week wanting my prices to them to go down but their retail prices will not be changing ...geez ...

Any lizards here who travel for work (FBV does I think) are there ANY consistent hotel/motel chains? ...I just stayed in the worst place in years and the last time I stayed at that chain it was good ...

This site is so fast now ...sweet

273 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:07:06pm

re: #249 CyanSnowHawk

Yep. It does. You can use it to either allow or disallow access to your wireless network so I assume Charles can do the same with his blog.

274 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:07:07pm

re: #262 gop_patriot

Is this game on TV? We can't seem to find it...

NFL network.
I think it is on Fox5 locally in SD, but I'm still at work and listening on Rock 105.3.

275 quercus albus  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:07:40pm

re: #257 Joan

It's what he excels at

It's the hypnosis thing. He's going to entrance the world!
/As....you read here....thinking....it may be....sarcasm.

276 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:07:44pm

re: #262 gop_patriot

Is this game on TV? We can't seem to find it...

NFL network.

277 semutasmoke  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:07:56pm

Just curious, does registration not work with Chrome? I saw the "gates are now open" on Google Reader in Chrome, but when I clicked through the link said "Register (closed)".

So I pasted the same url into firefox and was in like Flynn.

278 Alouette  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:08:34pm

re: #156 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm still waiting for my Zionist check, dammit!

That's because they are Zionist rebate checks. Didn't you get the memo?

279 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:09:08pm

re: #273 Bubblehead II

Yep. It does. You can use it to either allow or disallow access to your wireless network so I assume Charles can do the same with his blog.

Okay, that makes sense.

280 Joan  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:09:22pm

re: #275 quercus albus

It's the hypnosis thing. He's going to entrance the world!
/As....you read here....thinking....it may be....sarcasm.

"All Hail Hypno-Toad"

281 gringo69  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:09:39pm

I am a yesterday hatchling and I invite everyone over for a rum and coke. Welcome!

282 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:09:44pm

re: #262 gop_patriot

Is this game on TV? We can't seem to find it...

NFL Network.

/call your cable company and let them extort you for hundreds of dollars per month like I do

283 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:09:45pm

re: #265 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

But you're only a private, so you have to salute those of us with more seniority. Welcome!

Not to mention getting the drinks...

284 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:09:48pm

re: #267 Killian Bundy

Stop Using the Word ‘Islam’ in Reports on Terrorism, Islamic Bloc Says

Right, why don't you just spend your time and energy toward ending Muslim terrorism, then none of this will be a problem for anyone, win win for everyone.

/what's wrong with Islam in a nutshell

Concur. The "Islamic Bloc" should either actually try to get Pakistan to hand over some terrorists or FOAD. I'd prefer the former, but the latter would also be OK.

285 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:09:48pm

For all the newbies - listen up!

You must provide the established membership as much alcohol and strippers as necessary to keep the Lizardian Army happy and maintain high morale.

Second, you must behave. Remember the lost tool kit in space? That contained the remains of several trolls and troublemakers that were exiled from lgf. Little secret there that we just couldn't keep.

Third, enjoy your stay at the Lizard Best Western. Don't steal the towels, thanks!

286 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:10:04pm

re: #265 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

But you're only a private, so you have to salute those of us with more seniority. Welcome!

Ozark Mountain Daredevil -

I am 72 going on 73, think I know a thing or "few" about seniority. Actually enjoying using this 'computer thingie' myself after buying them for sons, daughters and their progeny.

Z

287 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:10:09pm

re: #262 gop_patriot

NFL Network.

288 The Shadow Do  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:10:23pm

re: #222 Charles

99...

Okay, 99 less a few old socks incinerated by Mr. Beaumont (esq.)
Less a few new posters...
As for the rest of you, show yourselves! But stop at the liquor store on your way, and maybe a quick run through Taco Bell while your at it - I'll take a dozen tacos with the hot sauce. Thank you.

289 gclaghorn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:10:25pm

re: #285 6pat6

For all the newbies - listen up!

You must provide the established membership as much alcohol and strippers as necessary to keep the Lizardian Army happy and maintain high morale.

Second, you must behave. Remember the lost tool kit in space? That contained the remains of several trolls and troublemakers that were exiled from lgf. Little secret there that we just couldn't keep.

Third, enjoy your stay at the Lizard Best Western. Don't steal the towels, thanks!

I thought this was the Holiday Inn Express!

290 Truck Monkey  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:10:35pm

re: #278 Alouette

That's because they are Zionist rebate checks. Didn't you get the memo?

95% of us are supposed to get them you know.

291 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:10:39pm

re: #267 Killian Bundy

Stop Using the Word ‘Islam’ in Reports on Terrorism, Islamic Bloc Says

Right, why don't you just spend your time and energy toward ending Muslim terrorism, then none of this will be a problem for anyone, win win for everyone.

/what's wrong with Islam in a nutshell

It's a completely understandable complaint since most terrorists turn out to be militant Amish, marginalized fundamentalist Lutherans or renegade Eskimos.

292 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:10:41pm

re: #278 Alouette

That's because they are Zionist rebate checks. Didn't you get the memo?

Does that mean I don't have to report them on my income taxes?

/kidding

293 swamprat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:10:41pm

re: #212 rick_too
Yes, All very well AND nice, but when we FIND out about his birth certificate, aNd his Indonesian citizenship, which will nullify his American citizenship, EVEN iF he WAS born here*

*actually set forth as valid claim on lgf, by someone who does not know that when you are born here, you are a citizen, no matter what you renouce.

PUFF, PUFF splatter... drool
wheeeeze

294 rick_too  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:10:46pm

re: #229 Joan
re: #244 bosforus

Thanks for the warm welcome.
Now I've got to figure out what these colorful buttons in the corner do....

295 gop_patriot  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:10:47pm

re: #268 sattv4u2

Most of he country can't. It's on the NFL Network. Most cable systems don't carry it

Oh well, that explains it. Thanks! :)

296 yah  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:11:40pm

I think we about to enter a never ending real life season of "24."

297 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:11:44pm

re: #286 Zuckie

Ozark Mountain Daredevil -

I am 72 going on 73, think I know a thing or "few" about seniority. Actually enjoying using this 'computer thingie' myself after buying them for sons, daughters and their progeny.

Z

Dad (or Mom, as the case may be) ,, I need a new laptop

298 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:12:20pm

re: #287 6pat6

NFL Network.

Now 24-0 San Diego.
Man, the Raiders must really suck this year. My Chargers have been the frigging keystone cops up to this point.

299 Joan  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:12:23pm

re: #285 6pat6

For all the newbies - listen up!

You must provide the established membership as much alcohol and strippers as necessary to keep the Lizardian Army happy and maintain high morale.

Second, you must behave. Remember the lost tool kit in space? That contained the remains of several trolls and troublemakers that were exiled from lgf. Little secret there that we just couldn't keep.

Third, enjoy your stay at the Lizard Best Western. Don't steal the towels, thanks!


Excellent, excellent. Oh, yes, and you will attend the compulsory Vogon poetry reading in the lounge, Friday nite, 9 pm--sharp!

300 gringo69  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:12:36pm

re: #285 6pat6

That tool kit cost 100k. I wonder what the junk in the back of my truck is worth? I have grease guns.

301 2by2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:12:37pm

re: #265 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hi Ozzie, thanks for your support yesterday night.

302 jaunte  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:13:33pm

re: #300 gringo69

That tool kit cost 100k.


Plus shipping. Don't forget shipping.

303 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:13:48pm

re: #291 David IV of Georgia

It's a completely understandable complaint since most terrorists turn out to be militant Amish, marginalized fundamentalist Lutherans or renegade Eskimos.

Those Lutherans have never forgotten the Lutefisk Incident.

304 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:14:21pm

re: #300 gringo69

That tool kit cost 100k. I wonder what the junk in the back of my truck is worth? I have grease guns.

Your toolbox was not boosted into space, there is much less invested in it.

305 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:14:38pm

re: #262 gop_patriot

Is this game on TV? We can't seem to find it...

You can watch it online here- [Link: www.myp2p.eu...] and click on the Danish Delights TVAnts feed, that one is usually the best.

306 Racer X  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:15:21pm
Gulf Oil CEO says gas could hit $1 next year

Gulf Oil CEO Joe Petrowski said on Wednesday that the price of oil could sink to $20 per barrel, and there is a chance gasoline prices could drop as low as $1 per gallon by early next year.


bbbbut - Global Warming!

307 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:15:24pm

re: #278 Alouette

That's because they are Zionist rebate checks. Didn't you get the memo?

I knew I should have read the fine print!

308 Occasional Reader  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:15:29pm
Don’t be a jerk.

Wait wait wait.

I don't know if I'm down with all these newfangled rules.

309 hazzyday  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:15:32pm

GM and Ford worth 6.4 Billion?
Chrysler worth 3 Billion?

They want a bailout of 25 billion combined?

Wouldn't it just be better to build an ObamaBug, all electric and give them away to the Obama Army and place Detroit workers all on assistance.

310 ohiogirl  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:15:35pm
For all the newbies - listen up!

You must provide the established membership as much alcohol and strippers as necessary to keep the Lizardian Army happy and maintain high morale.

Alcohol no problem. As for stripping, it's December, and the strippers are all adding layors, not taking them off. Long underwear season in my neighborhood.

311 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:15:39pm

re: #300 gringo69

That tool kit cost 100k. I wonder what the junk in the back of my truck is worth? I have grease guns.

Are they Snap-On?

312 JacksonTn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:16:08pm

re: #306 Racer X

bbbbut - Global Warming!

I saw gas at $1.58 on my way back from Atlanta today ...

313 gop_patriot  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:16:09pm

Thanks to everyone who answered the NFL game question. :)

314 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:16:36pm

re: #310 ohiogirl

Alcohol no problem. As for stripping, it's December, and the strippers are all adding layors, not taking them off. Long underwear season in my neighborhood.

Well, it does get a bit heated in here at times...

;^)

315 Wishing  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:16:36pm

Not a good day in Hebron

316 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:16:48pm

re: #312 JacksonTn

I saw gas at $1.58 on my way back from Atlanta today ...

I just bought it for $1.49 just outside of Atlanta on my way to work

317 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:17:26pm

re: #300 gringo69

That tool kit cost 100k. I wonder what the junk in the back of my truck is worth? I have grease guns.

/to be fair, all the components had to be tested and certified to fly on the Shuttle and function in near space

318 semutasmoke  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:17:35pm

re: #311 Spiny Norman

Danny? Is that you?

319 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:17:43pm

re: #310 ohiogirl

Alcohol no problem. As for stripping, it's December, and the strippers are all adding layors, not taking them off. Long underwear season in my neighborhood.

Yup, I bet Ohio is a little bit nipply this time of year!

320 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:18:05pm

re: #310 ohiogirl

Alcohol no problem. As for stripping, it's December, and the strippers are all adding layors, not taking them off. Long underwear season in my neighborhood.

Surely women don't need to bundle up.

321 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:18:06pm

re: #306 Racer X

Gulf Oil CEO says gas could hit $1 next year

Gulf Oil CEO Joe Petrowski said on Wednesday that the price of oil could sink to $20 per barrel, and there is a chance gasoline prices could drop as low as $1 per gallon by early next year.

bbbbut - Global Warming!

Emperor Hugo ain't gonna like that.

322 JacksonTn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:18:33pm

re: #316 sattv4u2

I just bought it for $1.49 just outside of Atlanta on my way to work

I was stuck in traffic on the 285 yesterday for 1 hour and again on my way back ...my brother was with me and he said "Isn't there a bypass around here you could take" ... I told him we were on the bypass ...

323 gop_patriot  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:19:01pm

re: #305 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You can watch it online here- [Link: www.myp2p.eu...] and click on the Danish Delights TVAnts feed, that one is usually the best.

Firefox didn't recognize that link, or something, when I hit "play". I'm assuming that is legal, btw? LOL

Thanks anyway. :)

324 hazzyday  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:19:13pm

Oil from $147 a barrel to $43

My daily Orange went from 50 cents to $1.50 with the rise of oil. It didn't take long. However I kind of think the price of the Orange won't be coming down anytime soon.

325 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:19:15pm
When the balance of power among the parties is upset in a nation where opinion is divided one party may emerge with an irresistible preponderance over the others. It smashes every obstacle crushes its adversaries and exploits the whole of society for its own benefit.

Wow. de Toqueville.

326 eff  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:19:29pm

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

Yes, you are allowed to attack Christmas. But you are also allowed to defend it, and that is what O'Reilly is doing. He has never called for silencing the anti-Christmas crowd, but rather resisting their demands and answering their words with pro-Christmas speech.

That's not what O'Reilly was saying. Bill O was criticizing judges for allowing atheist's to construct a display on public property. That's a push toward silencing the anti-christian crowd.

Christianity (and religion in general) is much stronger than a few political outliers who speak out against it. Religion does lots of good in our society, but the topic is open for public debate.

I often agree with O'Reilly, but not on this one.

327 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:19:37pm

re: #322 JacksonTn

I was stuck in traffic on the 285 yesterday for 1 hour and again on my way back ...my brother was with me and he said "Isn't there a bypass around here you could take" ... I told him we were on the bypass ...

My wife alsways asks me what wrong on that raos. I tell her

Too Many Cars, Not Enough Road

328 Racer X  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:19:42pm

re: #312 JacksonTn

I saw gas at $1.58 on my way back from Atlanta today ...

I saw $1.79 in L.A.

329 NYCHardhat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:19:47pm

re: #296 yah

I think we about to enter a never ending real life season of "24."

you realize that all those events happen in 6 days.

330 gringo69  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:19:53pm

re: #302 jaunte

Shipping and handling free. But wait, there's more. For a limited time only, I will also offer an Obama birth certificate, Dan Rather approved document decoder magnifying lens. I will give you a pocket fisherman and some Ginsu knives. Supplies are limited so act now! I just want rum from Obama!

331 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:19:56pm

Talk about stupid.

Peter J. Limone arrested again, 7 years after release

Peter J. Limone, who spent more than 33 years behind bars for a gangland murder he didn’t commit, was arrested this afternoon in Medford on illegal gaming charges, two law-enforcement sources have confirmed.

Limone, 74, was indicted by a Middlesex grand jury. Middlesex District Attorney Gerard T. Leone has not yet issued a statement.

Sprung from prison in 2001, Limone was last year awarded $26 million by U.S. District Court Judge Nancy Gertner for his wrongful conviction - along with three other men - on July 31, 1968, for the Chelsea murder of Edward “Teddy” Deegan

I guess that $26 million just wasn't enough...

332 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:20:09pm

re: #321 Spiny Norman

Emperor Hugo ain't gonna like that.

Hugo may die behind that. When he has to start cutting subsidies, the temptation to stage a coup will be great. I'm not advocating his death, merely stating what may happen.

333 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:20:47pm

re: #328 Racer X

I saw $1.79 in L.A.

I paid $1.69 in NH the other day. Love working near the border!

334 ohiogirl  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:20:58pm

Paid $1.44 a gallon the day before Thanksgiving. Gave me something to be very thankful for, drive a big gas hog. Scares me that the big 3 might stop making them, some of us need full size trucks for our businesses, no such thing as an import duellie.

335 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:21:08pm

$1.40 here in the sunny Southern Plains!

336 quercus albus  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:21:20pm

re: #321 Spiny Norman

Emperor Hugo ain't gonna like that.

I thought the one was going to make energy prices skyrocket? He CHANGEd his mind on that, too?

/not that I would mind a few flip flops...

337 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:21:49pm

Diesel is close to two bucks again! Hasn't been that low since early 2005.

338 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:21:55pm

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

Hugo may die behind that. When he has to start cutting subsidies, the temptation to stage a coup will be great. I'm not advocating his death, merely stating what may happen.

You're right. There are a lot people with a lot of money that are pretty angry at him right now.

339 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:21:57pm

re: #297 sattv4u2

Dad (or Mom, as the case may be) ,, I need a new laptop

sattv4u2 -

I will give you the same advice my late dad gave me. Earn it: my sons daughters and progeny have, if not in full, thankfully in attitude that I can quantify. For the record, none of them get "AlienWare" type stuff. They get "Brand A" - If they have the graphic arts needs for it. Otherwise, Windows XP or Vista in their chosen brand, best bang for the buck. I am Grandpa, and am also NOT stupid.

Z

340 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:21:58pm

re: #313 gop_patriot

Thanks to everyone who answered the NFL game question. :)

24-0 Chargers with 6 minutes left in the half, and the Raiders just got called for back to back personal fouls and have second and 35.

341 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:22:20pm

re: #313 gop_patriot

Thanks to everyone who answered the NFL game question. :)

It's a first half blowout.

/send in the scrubs

342 sngnsgt  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:22:30pm

re: #206 Zuckie

Roger.

343 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:22:48pm

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

Hugo may die behind that. When he has to start cutting subsidies, the temptation to stage a coup will be great. I'm not advocating his death, merely stating what may happen.

self censored

344 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:22:52pm

re: #336 quercus albus

I thought the one was going to make energy prices skyrocket? He CHANGEd his mind on that, too?

/not that I would mind a few flip flops...

did someone say flip flops?

345 stevieray  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:23:18pm

Rutgers is whacking Louisville on ESPN right now... 49 - 0 at the half.

346 yah  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:23:24pm

re: #329 NYCHardhat
And then 6 more and 6 more - endless

347 gop_patriot  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:23:30pm

re: #320 CyanSnowHawk

Surely women don't need to bundle up.

That cartoon woman has an adam's apple. And boobs bigger than her head. Encased in metal. Scary. LOL

348 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:23:31pm

re: #341 Killian Bundy

It's a first half blowout.

/send in the scrubs

They have been in since the start!
/

349 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:23:40pm

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

Hugo may die behind that. When he has to start cutting subsidies, the temptation to stage a coup will be great. I'm not advocating his death, merely stating what may happen.

Blockheaded tin-pot dictators usually don't end well. I'm flabbergasted that Bobby Mugabe hasn't been *ahem* defenestrated yet.

350 swamprat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:23:52pm

Darn those blocked socks! Those darned blocked socks! Block those darn socks with locked block stocks!

351 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:24:01pm

re: #334 ohiogirl

Paid $1.44 a gallon the day before Thanksgiving. Gave me something to be very thankful for, drive a big gas hog. Scares me that the big 3 might stop making them, some of us need full size trucks for our businesses, no such thing as an import duellie.

The big 3 won't disappear. They'll file Chapter 11 if they must and reorganize.

352 hazzyday  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:24:15pm

Giving money to corporate fatcats doesn't inspire any economic confidence in me. Trickle up would be better.

Prosecuting Mark Cuban and Martha Stewart over small issues and letting Ken Lay and the current Mortgage CEO's run off scott free with more of my taxes is not good. My banks won't loan me a cent, yet they want my tax dollars loaned out to them.

There is a cycle of corruption there that needs to be abbreviated.

353 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:25:20pm

re: #347 gop_patriot

That cartoon woman has an adam's apple. And boobs bigger than her head. Encased in metal. Scary. LOL

Brigitte Nielsen?

354 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:25:27pm

This buck-and-a-half gasoline is really pissing off the Jackasses! They've been hoping the economic slowdown will make people "realize fthe folly of lower taxes" and accept full indentured servitude with high prices and high taxes again the fashion ala Carter's "Malaise Era" politics. They hate seeing people saving their money and travelling less, despite the low fuel costs presently.

355 yah  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:25:36pm

re: #322 JacksonTn

Sometimes it is actually faster, in some cities, to just drive straight through the city instead of using the beltways.

356 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:25:53pm

re: #334 ohiogirl

Paid $1.44 a gallon the day before Thanksgiving. Gave me something to be very thankful for, drive a big gas hog. Scares me that the big 3 might stop making them, some of us need full size trucks for our businesses, no such thing as an import duellie.

Don't be. I was listening to a Big 3 Marketing Exec last night and he was saying how when gas was so high, the big trucks/ SUVs were sitiing on the lost with the roller skates selling. Now that gas is down they're seeing the big ones moving again. The Escalade Hybrid actually gets more city MPH than a mid size non hybrid

357 gop_patriot  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:26:10pm

re: #353 Spiny Norman

Brigitte Nielsen?

I knew she looked familiar! haha

358 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:26:17pm

re: #345 stevieray

Rutgers is whacking Louisville on ESPN right now... 49 - 0 at the half.

I hope thats football and not basketball !

359 hazzyday  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:26:25pm

Cheeto Overload.

360 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:26:33pm

re: #355 yah

Sometimes it is actually faster, in some cities, to just drive straight through the city instead of using the beltways.

like the Big Dig....NOT

361 Gang of One  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:26:34pm

Welcome all hatchlings. Something to sear into your memory:

Read this. This is Nekama's Troll Hammer -- wisdom concentrated into one post that will enable you to survive and thrive in here.

Read it, learn it, live it.

/not sure if anyone else posted it. If so, Never Mind!®

362 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:26:35pm

re: #323 gop_patriot

Firefox didn't recognize that link, or something, when I hit "play". I'm assuming that is legal, btw? LOL

Thanks anyway. :)

I'm watching it on FF3 now. It will open a window telling you that it will open a separate window for the video of the game. Just click to allow it. I've been using this website for about 2 years to watch out of market NFL games, like last sunday when KC-Oakland was on TV here, I watched the Steelers-Patriots game on [Link: www.p2p.eu...]

363 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:27:11pm

re: #341 Killian Bundy

It's a first half blowout.

/send in the scrubs

Those ARE the scrubs! : )

364 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:27:36pm

re: #349 Spiny Norman

Blockheaded tin-pot dictators usually don't end well. I'm flabbergasted that Bobby Mugabe hasn't been *ahem* defenestrated yet.

I think RM has been fairly good at eliminating his threats. It can't last forever, but Zimbabwe suffers while it does.

365 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:27:44pm

re: #358 sattv4u2

I hope thats football and not basketball !

Indeed it is.

I somehow found myself watching Bridges of Madison County on WEtv until I came to my senses.

366 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:27:54pm

re: #309 hazzyday

GM and Ford worth 6.4 Billion?
Chrysler worth 3 Billion?

They want a bailout of 25 billion combined?

Wouldn't it just be better to build an ObamaBug, all electric and give them away to the Obama Army and place Detroit workers all on assistance.

hazzyday:

6.4 + 3 = 9.4

Sounds to me that Bill Gates could write a check and own the "Detroit 2" if not the "Detroit 3." Were I HIM, I would Just DO IT. After all, he is partners with FORD already on "Synch" electronics. Better Bill Gates than "American Leyland."

Z

367 yah  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:28:01pm

re: #352 hazzyday

Is kinda maddening when someone won't lend you your own money.

368 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:28:29pm

re: #352 hazzyday

Giving money to corporate fatcats doesn't inspire any economic confidence in me. Trickle up would be better.

Prosecuting Mark Cuban and Martha Stewart over small issues and letting Ken Lay and the current Mortgage CEO's run off scott free with more of my taxes is not good. My banks won't loan me a cent, yet they want my tax dollars loaned out to them.

There is a cycle of corruption there that needs to be abbreviated.

Why not? The 4 banks I have various accounts with call / send me stuff weekly to entice me to borrow. i've spoken with 2 of them and I can get good rates

369 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:28:58pm

re: #352 hazzyday

Giving money to corporate fatcats doesn't inspire any economic confidence in me. Trickle up would be better.

Prosecuting Mark Cuban and Martha Stewart over small issues and letting Ken Lay and the current Mortgage CEO's run off scott free with more of my taxes is not good. My banks won't loan me a cent, yet they want my tax dollars loaned out to them.

There is a cycle of corruption there that needs to be abbreviated.

Ken Lay died before he could be tried.

370 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:29:10pm

Obama May Cancel Space Shuttle Replacement

U.S. President-elect Barack Obama's NASA transition team is asking U.S. space agency officials to quantify how much money could be saved by canceling the Ares 1 rocket and scaling back the Orion Crew Exploration Vehicle next year.

Lost toolkits in space will no longer be a problem and kindergartners will be able to get their comprehensive sex education thanks to the NASA cost savings.

/next up: military spending

371 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:29:58pm
372 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:30:03pm

re: #352 hazzyday

Yep. Nearly two TRILLION dollars pledged to the financial sector with nary a question about accountability; yet Congress acts all self-righteous when the auto industry asks for similar help and asks for "proof" that they "deserve a mere $50B. Bailing out the banking industry was supposedly something that needed to be done literally in hours or the world was going to end! Six weeks later - where is that cash again? Banks truly produce nothing, just like government. The auto industry produces tangible and necessary products people want and use, and replace.

Congress just pisses me off.

373 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:30:27pm

re: #369 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

And the fucking moonbats blamed Bush for that.

374 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:30:37pm

re: #364 CyanSnowHawk

I think RM has been fairly good at eliminating his threats. It can't last forever, but Zimbabwe suffers while it does.

His own crew will do him in, I'm quite certain. There was a news item recently reporting Zimbabwean soldiers rioting (over pay, I believe), so it won't be much longer.

375 sngnsgt  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:30:42pm

Wow, I've been under a rock somewhere, as a drummer, I had never seen this Cadbury Gorilla Video

376 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:30:53pm

Olberdink Compares ‘Grotesque’ Chambliss to ‘Turkey-Killing Machine,’ Carlson: ‘Both Are Killers’

On Monday’s Countdown show, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann compared Republican Senator Saxby Chambliss’s 2002 campaign against then-Democratic Senator Max Cleland of Georgia to a "turkey-killing machine," as part of a segment with Bloomberg News’s Margaret Carlson, formerly of Time magazine, in which the duo mocked Sarah Palin’s part in a campaign rally for Chambliss. Olbermann: "What is the more grotesque event to be standing in front of and not paying attention to? What we`re seeing now, she`s standing in front of Saxby Chambliss who ran that campaign against Max Cleland six years ago, or standing in front of a turkey-killing machine?" As she laughed, Carlson responded: "Both are killers." Referring to the presence of the rapper Ludacris in Georgia as he campaigned for Democratic candidate Jim Martin, the pair also made cracks about Palin being "ludicrous" as Olbermann tagged her as "Governor Ludicrous of Alaska," and Carlson called her "Miss Slight Ludicrous."

So funny I forgot to laugh.

377 jorline  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:31:02pm

I heard several hatchlings lost their socks...now they're barefoot in the snow.

378 gop_patriot  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:31:09pm

re: #362 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I get "Alert - Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (tvants) isn't associated with any program".

Then I have to click "OK" and that's it, no option on how to make it work right. But I'm on my old Mac, using FF2, so that might be the problem.

I'm not worried about it. But I'm saving the link to try again later, thank you!

379 integral.taken  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:31:30pm

I've noticed that the window has been opening quite frequent lately.
In a nice Christmas spirit mood?

380 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:31:40pm

re: #370 Killian Bundy

Obama May Cancel Space Shuttle Replacement

Lost toolkits in space will no longer be a problem and kindergartners will be able to get their comprehensive sex education thanks to the NASA cost savings.

/next up: military spending

Say goodbye to the F-35 JSF (and probably the F-22 as well).

381 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:31:48pm

re: #374 Spiny Norman

His own crew will do him in, I'm quite certain. There was a news item recently reporting Zimbabwean soldiers rioting (over pay, I believe), so it won't be much longer.

Good.

382 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:31:50pm

re: #334 ohiogirl

Paid $1.44 a gallon the day before Thanksgiving. Gave me something to be very thankful for, drive a big gas hog. Scares me that the big 3 might stop making them, some of us need full size trucks for our businesses, no such thing as an import duellie.

OhioGirl -

Going to be an "Alte Futze" about this one. To me, gasoline above 33 cents per gallon is expensive.

Z

383 Joan  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:31:53pm

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

Anyone can say whatever they want. I'm for it, nice or not nice. However, that sign they put up did not match the decorum or intention of the rest of the display. They could have had their Winter Solstice sign, which was very nice, and the sentiment "May Reason Prevail!" That is in tune with the holiday season, if one is an atheist. But that laundry list--was not.

If government spaces and authorities have a right to set standards for use of these types of spaces, they should do so respecting atheists. Could the atheists have been a little less insulting in that particular setting? If the point is to change people's minds, bring home a point, the sign could have carried the point. If the intention is to get people utterly hostile, well then, maybe it was mission accomplished.

384 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:31:56pm

re: #373 Iron Fist

And the fucking moonbats blamed Bush for that.

As Stevie Wonder sang- "That's what moonbats are for..."

385 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:32:01pm

re: #369 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Ken Lay died before he could be tried.sentenced - he was already convicted.

386 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:32:31pm

re: #372 6pat6

Congress just pisses me off.

Seems to be a universal feeling for about 200 + years now.

387 hazzyday  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:32:57pm

re: #367 yah

Lol yes. It factors on politics I think and power. If you are on the short end of either, corruption is going to eat away at your funds. There isn't political will to even out the effects of this lack of confidence in the economy.

Big anything(Labor, Business, etc) will survive better at the expense of single moms, the uninsured, the under employed. They have the computers producing the tons of paper needed to sway congress.

388 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:33:01pm

re: #376 loppyd

Olberdink Compares ‘Grotesque’ Chambliss to ‘Turkey-Killing Machine,’ Carlson: ‘Both Are Killers’

So funny I forgot to laugh.

How juvenile.

389 razorbacker  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:33:22pm

re: #370 Killian Bundy

Obama May Cancel Space Shuttle Replacement

Lost toolkits in space will no longer be a problem and kindergartners will be able to get their comprehensive sex education thanks to the NASA cost savings.

/next up: military spending

So, only access to the ISS will be via the Soviets?

Yeah, that'll work.

390 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:33:33pm

re: #376 loppyd

Those two morons have the collective IQ of a houseplant.

391 The Shadow Do  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:33:42pm

re: #372 6pat6

Yep. Nearly two TRILLION dollars pledged to the financial sector with nary a question about accountability; yet Congress acts all self-righteous when the auto industry asks for similar help and asks for "proof" that they "deserve a mere $50B. Bailing out the banking industry was supposedly something that needed to be done literally in hours or the world was going to end! Six weeks later - where is that cash again? Banks truly produce nothing, just like government. The auto industry produces tangible and necessary products people want and use, and replace.

Congress just pisses me off.

Are you for putting these 'producers' on the dole? Just askin'

392 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:33:55pm

re: #372 6pat6

Congress just pisses me off.

The major banks fail and the entire global economy literally stops in it's tracks.

/the "Big 3" fail and they'll still be plenty of companies selling cars the next day, that's the difference

393 Throbert McGee  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:33:58pm

re: #110 johnjdick

My name is John Dick.
[...]
I admit to having a ornery streak that gets me into trouble at times. Though, it usually only surfaces when I'm drunk at bars, trying to hit on the ladies.

Dammit... a single guy named "Jack Dick" (coincidentally, my favorite hobby) and he turns out to be straight.

394 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:34:06pm

Blair Urges President Elect To Pressure Israel To Give Away 1/2 Its Country To Then Enemy

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair called for United States President-elect Barack Obama to press hard for Israel to make further territorial concessions to the Palestinian Authority. Blair, speaking at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York on Wednesday, also praised Obama’s selections to lead his national security team, most notably former NATO commander General James L. Jones as National Security Advisor for the incoming administration. Jones was until recently the US special envoy for Middle East security and in that role has advocated sending a NATO force to impose a solution in Judea and Samaria.

395 hazzyday  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:34:14pm

re: #369 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Ken Lay died before he could be tried.

Yep, but his trial was drug out longer, much longer than Martha's Stewarts and he was allowed to soften the economic blow to himself while none of his 401k holders were.

396 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:34:23pm

re: #384 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

As Stevie Wonder sang- "That's what moonbats are for..."

Even he saw how stupid they are.
/

397 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:34:35pm

re: #380 Spiny Norman

We can't allow America to get too far ahead of the rest of the world militarily. It just wouldn't be fair.

Obama is also going to kill ballistic missile defense. No word yet on what contribution he will make towards Iran gaining nuclear weapons, but some are suggesting that we should subsidize it to the tune of $200 million.

398 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:34:37pm

re: #380 Spiny Norman

Say goodbye to the F-35 JSF (and probably the F-22 as well).

The F-35 isn't going away, too many other countries are too heavily invested. New F-22s probably are, as well as the modernization program. But not until the 2010 budget.

399 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:34:58pm

No wonder Barry went back on his word.

Final Official Obama Fundraising Number -- a Record-Setting $745 Million

From October 16 until November 24 (the Federal Election Commission filing period) the Obama campaign reports raising $104,124,845 from 1,124,238 contributors, in an FEC reported filed this evening.

That means President-elect Obama campaign raised roughly $745 million for his 2008 presidential campaign.
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., raised roughly $320 million, including the $84 million from entering into the public financing system.

This does NOT include money from the DNC and RNC. When those numbers are taken into account, we expect the Democrats to have raised closer to one billion dollars, compared to roughly $630 million for the Republicans.

Which means the President-elect had, roughly, a $400 million advantage.

ABC News' Tahman Bradley points out that Mr. Obama's total exceeds that of all 2004 candidates combined. They raised $673 million.

400 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:35:11pm

re: #391 The Shadow Do

I'm for a loan package, like Chrysler got back in 1979 and paid off in two years - 10 years ahead of time! The trillions the banks are getting apparently do not need to be paid back. Something is seriously wrong here.

401 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:35:24pm

re: #380 Spiny Norman

Say goodbye to the F-35 JSF (and probably the F-22 as well).

heh ... Bloomberg News
December 1, 2008

Lockheed Wants $147 Million to End F-22, Young Says

By Tony Capaccio

Lockheed Martin Corp., the world’s largest defense contractor, wants the U.S. Air Force to pay it as much as $147 million for stopping F-22 fighter production, according to the Pentagon’s top weapons buyer.

Lockheed has told the Air Force it will invoke a payment clause contained in the current three-year, $7 billion contract
that ends F-22 production at 183 aircraft, said Undersecretary for Acquisition John Young.

“It’s kinda, sorta holding a small gun to somebody’s head saying ‘if you don’t buy more you have to pay us extra’ and that
is inconsistent with best business practices,” Young said in a Nov. 21 interview. Young said he only learned of the penalty provision about two weeks earlier, “to my surprise and dismay,”
though it had been negotiated in 2006.

402 hazzyday  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:35:42pm

re: #394 WrathofG-d

I can't see how that makes any sense as it doesn't address the core issue. Which is hatred coming out of the Muslim world for Israel. That hatred will only grow if land is given back. Smart people can be so stupid sometimes.

403 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:36:09pm
404 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:36:10pm

re: #399 loppyd

No wonder Barry went back on his word.

Final Official Obama Fundraising Number -- a Record-Setting $745 Million

700 Million? I'm sure that could have been spent on education, or as a down payment in an interest baring account to instigate a private solution to Universal Healthcare.

405 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:36:14pm

they'll

/there'll

406 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:36:35pm

re: #370 Killian Bundy

Obama May Cancel Space Shuttle Replacement


Lost toolkits in space will no longer be a problem and kindergartners will be able to get their comprehensive sex education thanks to the NASA cost savings.

/next up: military spending

That's okay. I've heard that unicorn flatulence will really get you up there.

407 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:36:35pm

re: #376 loppyd

Olberdink Compares ‘Grotesque’ Chambliss to ‘Turkey-Killing Machine,’ Carlson: ‘Both Are Killers’

So funny I forgot to laugh.

I still don't understand how people could get worked up over that Palin video. What did they think happened to those turkeys anyway? I actually those it was a good thing to show: People should have some idea of how their food gets to their plate.

408 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:36:38pm

re: #390 Ozark Mountain Daredevil


Quit insulting houseplants. What have houseplants ever done to you? We need more outreach to houseplant-Americans, so they can take their rightful place in America.

409 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:36:43pm

re: #388 Spiny Norman

How juvenile.

For him it is delusional hatred of all conservatives. For her it is unbridled snobbery and jealousy.

410 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:36:46pm

re: #385 6pat6

Ken Lay died before he could be tried.sentenced - he was already convicted.

Thats right...

411 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:37:38pm
412 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:37:46pm

re: #403 taxfreekiller

Iran,


$20.00 per bl of oil, hows that sound?
Not nice to screw with mother load of oil Saudi Kingdom uh?

Looks like "you" are out on the end of the oil price centrifuge.

iirc @ $74 bbl they are hosed.

413 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:37:48pm

re: #394 WrathofG-d

Blair Urges President Elect To Pressure Israel To Give Away 1/2 Its Country To Then Enemy

The old Tony Blair has re-emerged.

414 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:38:02pm

re: #402 hazzyday

You are correct. Mahmoud Abbas/Abu Mazen is the head of Fatah, which is the PLO.

The PLO in the 1970s wrote, approved, and began the PLO Phased Plan.
(if you don't know of it READ IT! Arafat discussed it as recently as 1993)

415 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:38:17pm

re: #407 Dark_Falcon

I still don't understand how people could get worked up over that Palin video. What did they think happened to those turkeys anyway? I actually those it was a good thing to show: People should have some idea of how their food gets to their plate.

I'm sure the Olberdink had a vegan thanksgiving dinner....

416 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:38:36pm

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

Hugo may die behind that. When he has to start cutting subsidies, the temptation to stage a coup will be great.

Hugo's military could violently suppress the people of Venezuela. They would be joined by aggressive militias.

417 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:38:38pm

re: #397 Iron Fist

We can't allow America to get too far ahead of the rest of the world militarily. It just wouldn't be fair.

Obama is also going to kill ballistic missile defense. No word yet on what contribution he will make towards Iran gaining nuclear weapons, but some are suggesting that we should subsidize it to the tune of $200 million.

Isn't that about how much they contributed to his campaign?


/sarc
//maybe not

418 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:38:54pm

re: #413 Spiny Norman

Every Jew has an interest in a unified Jerusalem.

At this point, Jews and Zionists should see that we no longer have any political friends. Its time to stand up for ourselves!

419 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:38:59pm

re: #349 Spiny Norman

Blockheaded tin-pot dictators usually don't end well. I'm flabbergasted that Bobby Mugabe hasn't been *ahem* defenestrated yet.

That's not all too far fetched given the way that even the military is starting to grumble about the pay, or lack thereof.

They can't print money fast enough to keep up with the inflation there - 230 million percent. It's a hellhole due solely to the economic stylings of the economically illiterate and power hungry Mugabe.

420 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:39:22pm

re: #415 loppyd

I'm sure the Olberdink had a vegan thanksgiving dinner....

The OlberDork probably had a tofurkey, he's that big of a puss.

421 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:39:31pm
422 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:39:57pm

re: #404 WrathofG-d

700 Million? I'm sure that could have been spent on education, or as a down payment in an interest baring account to instigate a private solution to Universal Healthcare.

Or, buy me a few more cashmere twin-sets and Coach hobo bags. Maybe another pair of Cole Haans.

423 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:40:15pm

re: #415 loppyd

OlberDork eating a turkey would be considered cannibalism.

425 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:40:25pm

re: #401 Bobibutu

heh ... Bloomberg News
December 1, 2008

Lockheed Wants $147 Million to End F-22, Young Says

By Tony Capaccio

Lockheed Martin Corp., the world’s largest defense contractor, wants the U.S. Air Force to pay it as much as $147 million for stopping F-22 fighter production, according to the Pentagon’s top weapons buyer.

Lockheed has told the Air Force it will invoke a payment clause contained in the current three-year, $7 billion contract
that ends F-22 production at 183 aircraft, said Undersecretary for Acquisition John Young.

“It’s kinda, sorta holding a small gun to somebody’s head saying ‘if you don’t buy more you have to pay us extra’ and that
is inconsistent with best business practices,” Young said in a Nov. 21 interview. Young said he only learned of the penalty provision about two weeks earlier, “to my surprise and dismay,”
though it had been negotiated in 2006.

All defense contracts have cancellation fees. Not just F-22. These are typically used to ramp down the current efforts and protect the jobs involved. Young is lying.

426 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:40:31pm

re: #413 Spiny Norman

The old Tony Blair has re-emerged.

“I think there is a consensus now among the international community – not just America, but everyone – on how to deal with this,” Blair said. “The question is now, what people will watch for: Is it taken forward with the requisite urgency and determination? I have every confidence that it will be.”

President-elect Obama, himself a member of the CFR, has pledged to make progress on the Middle East conflict a key diplomatic priority from his first day in office. He has called for a sustained push to achieve the goal of two states, one Jewish and one Arab, both in the small territory between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River.

427 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:40:36pm

re: #422 MandyManners

Or, buy me a few more cashmere twin-sets and Coach hobo bags. Maybe another pair of Cole Haans.

and super fugly $30,000 rings for my man hands.

428 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:40:37pm

re: #401 Bobibutu

heh ... Bloomberg News
December 1, 2008

Lockheed Wants $147 Million to End F-22, Young Says

By Tony Capaccio

Lockheed Martin Corp., the world’s largest defense contractor, wants the U.S. Air Force to pay it as much as $147 million for stopping F-22 fighter production, according to the Pentagon’s top weapons buyer.

Lockheed has told the Air Force it will invoke a payment clause contained in the current three-year, $7 billion contract
that ends F-22 production at 183 aircraft, said Undersecretary for Acquisition John Young.

“It’s kinda, sorta holding a small gun to somebody’s head saying ‘if you don’t buy more you have to pay us extra’ and that
is inconsistent with best business practices,” Young said in a Nov. 21 interview. Young said he only learned of the penalty provision about two weeks earlier, “to my surprise and dismay,”
though it had been negotiated in 2006.

The F-22 is being built for the Navy and Marines in addition to the USAF.

429 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:40:44pm

re: #398 CyanSnowHawk

The F-35 isn't going away, too many other countries are too heavily invested. New F-22s probably are, as well as the modernization program. But not until the 2010 budget.

Agreed. The F-16 has to be replaced in the not-too-distant future. The F-35 is a must build. Obama may slow the pace of replacement, but will not stop it.

430 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:41:01pm

re: #423 6pat6

OlberDork eating a turkey would be considered cannibalism.


LOL

431 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:41:46pm

re: #399 loppyd


If nothing else, surely to God this election will kill off the notion of "publicly funded campaigns". McCain might as well raised $500 millian and given it all to Obama. All "public financing" did was unilaterally surrender on the fund-raising front. And there is no question that it helped Obama.

Probably enough that McCain might very well have won if he'd been equally (or nearly so) funded.

432 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:41:49pm
433 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:41:52pm

re: #425 CyanSnowHawk

All defense contracts have cancellation fees. Not just F-22. These are typically used to ramp down the current efforts and protect the jobs involved. Young is lying.

Noooooooo .... lying !

But ... sputter

/

434 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:41:59pm

re: #419 lawhawk

Meanwhile 16 soldiers have been held over disorder in Harare, say reports.

The Zimbabwean police told the state-owned Herald newspaper that 10 of the soldiers were detained over a looting spree on Monday which broke out after the central bank said it did not have the money to pay defence force members queuing for wages.

The other six were part of a group that reportedly looted shops and battled riot police last week.

Zimbabwe's defence minister has blamed the disturbances on an unruly minority in the army, and promised to punish the culprits.

Ah! That's the report I was referencing in my #374. Thanks.

435 gclaghorn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:42:22pm

Just to let everyone know, Rush Limbaugh will be on ABC being interviewed by Barbara Walters tonight at 10 PM.

436 orAaron  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:42:27pm

I have arrived.

437 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:42:37pm

re: #416 experiencedtraveller

Hugo's military could violently suppress the people of Venezuela. They would be joined by aggressive militias.

That might also happen, I agree.

438 traderjoe9  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:42:41pm

re: #394 WrathofG-d

Blair Urges President Elect To Pressure Israel To Give Away 1/2 Its Country To Then Enemy

I wouldn't be so worried if I was Tony. Israels own worst enemy - the Jews - is willing to give up all of its land by themselves.

One piece of Israel at a time

439 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:43:20pm

re: #429 Dark_Falcon

Carter cancelled the B-1 in 1979, only to have Reagan (I miss him!) reinstate in in 1981. So, even if BHO were to cancel it, his 2012 replacement will have the brains to reinstate IT, as well.

440 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:43:28pm

re: #427 loppyd

and super fugly $30,000 rings for my man hands.

Will it remove that CBF?

441 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:43:30pm

re: #417 Spiny Norman


I think all of the Iranian money was laundered through donations from Hamas.

And I am not being sarcastic about that in the least.

442 razorbacker  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:43:43pm

re: #436 orAaron

I have arrived.

You came?

443 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:43:51pm

re: #431 Iron Fist

Agreed and agreed and agreed.

Jeez that was easy. :~)

444 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:44:01pm

re: #429 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. The F-16 has to be replaced in the not-too-distant future. The F-35 is a must build. Obama may slow the pace of replacement, but will not stop it.

I wouldn't bet money on that.

445 formercorpsman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:44:02pm

re: #399 loppyd

You know, the real interesting thing about what you posted, is that it refers to what was raised.

I have never really seen anything reported, that equates how much of what was raised actually was spent.

I know Sharpton more or less admitted he ran for President knowing he would not win, but because he could keep a large chunk of change in the end.

446 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:44:15pm

re: #428 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The F-22 F-35 is being built for the Navy and Marines in addition to the USAF.

/Raptor is AF only

447 hazzyday  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:44:16pm

re: #368 sattv4u2

Why not? The 4 banks I have various accounts with call / send me stuff weekly to entice me to borrow. i've spoken with 2 of them and I can get good rates

Have you successfully borrowed?

I owned a non conventional property that set all their bad loan sensors off. I get the ads, apply, and get the rejection. And they say making several applications makes you more rejectable. The reason is they tightened credit up. Lots of people in the same boat, that needed some credit margin to extend a business. Shut the credit down and eco waves can do one in. Quickly.

Two years ago I could get credit easy. Then last summer in concert, at the same time the credit was turned off by all financial institutions. They were working on institutional analysis that I didn't have access to.

448 gclaghorn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:44:21pm

re: #436 orAaron

I have arrived.

Hola!

449 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:44:23pm

re: #423 6pat6

OlberDork eating a turkey would be considered cannibalism.

No. Olbermann isn't a Wild Turkey, he's a Wild Ass.

450 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:44:24pm

re: #429 Dark_Falcon

Throw in the fact that the F-15s have to be phased out eventually as well and you're starting to run into logistical issues of trying to have enough aircraft to handle all the missions. Even if more missions are tasked to UAVs, you are still going to need airframes available for many kinds of missions.

451 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:44:29pm

re: #427 loppyd

and super fugly $30,000 rings for my man hands.

re: #440 MandyManners

Will it remove that CBF?

*meow*

452 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:44:30pm

re: #351 CyanSnowHawk

The big 3 won't disappear. They'll file Chapter 11 if they must and reorganize.

CyanSnowHawk -

I agree, the Detroit 3 MAY have to go through re-oranization. In this Politically Correct Age, it WILL be called something else. The result will be the same. The transplant manufacturers have zeroed the UAW Contracts. After a fashion, it is a shame that the workers are the ones who will feel the contraction more than (mis) management. Such is the way of the world.

Z

453 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:45:02pm

Friend just called got hit by 18 wheeler. he's OK but I gotta go.

I'm back. In my haste I missed clicking the "post this comment" button.

454 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:45:19pm

re: #424 razorbacker

Won't be many of them sold at that price.

Like the F-22 fighter, the F-35 is stealthy, and is stuffed with lots of new technology. Most (about 60 percent) of the F-35s will be used by foreign nations. The rising cost of the F-35 brings with it reluctance to buy as many aircraft currently planned. The success of smart bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan has also made it clear that fewer aircraft will be needed in the future. In any event, it's likely that F-35s are end up costing more than $100 million each.

A lot of those costs are already sunk. They were part of the development. Cost per plane is significantly less if you don't include the already spent dev costs. Some of that dev cost is in my wallet BTW, I work for one of the contractors.

455 Floral Giraffe  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:45:19pm

re: #328 Racer X

I paid $1.77 today in LA. Woo!

456 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:45:38pm

re: #436 orAaron

I have arrived.

Will you see and will you conquer?

457 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:45:41pm

re: #445 formercorpsman

You raise an important point there. I'm sure he'll have to disclose that at some point...

458 razorbacker  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:45:53pm

re: #419 lawhawk

That's not all too far fetched given the way that even the military is starting to grumble about the pay, or lack thereof.

They can't print money fast enough to keep up with the inflation there - 230 million percent. It's a hellhole due solely to the economic stylings of the economically illiterate and power hungry Mugabe.

They don't even print their money. Germany does.

459 legalpad  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:45:55pm

re: #397 Iron Fist

We can't allow America to get too far ahead of the rest of the world militarily. It just wouldn't be fair.

Obama is also going to kill ballistic missile defense. No word yet on what contribution he will make towards Iran gaining nuclear weapons, but some are suggesting that we should subsidize it to the tune of $200 million.

Obama keeps talking about this "fairness" idea he has. Even when Charlie Gibson interviewed him and discussed how tax cuts raised revenues, Obama maintained that he would rather raise taxes even if it meant less revenue so it would be "fair". That's like a "fair" football game is to divide up the score after the game, not an equal chance to play.

460 The Shadow Do  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:45:57pm

re: #400 6pat6

I'm for a loan package, like Chrysler got back in 1979 and paid off in two years - 10 years ahead of time! The trillions the banks are getting apparently do not need to be paid back. Something is seriously wrong here.

Actually the bank buy-ins are not gimmes but do carry risk. Chrysler at least had a chance to succeed, and did, when their credit tanked years back. The problem with Detroit today is anyone in the least realistic knows that these companies, with the possible exception of Ford, will never pay back anything. Congress is just kicking the bankruptcy can down the road in some sort of glass half full, hope/change implausible scenario. Payouts to these companies, I think, must be seen as simply a delay in the car co's bankruptcies hoping the sting will be less damaging later than now. That could well be the case, but I think these companies are toast - it's just a matter of when. Don't know about anyone else, but I think I would be more apt to buy a car from a company in Chapter 11 with a plan to get out than buy a car from one that is sure to go down.

461 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:46:04pm

re: #456 MandyManners

Will you see and will you conquer?

Hail Mandy!

462 gclaghorn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:46:06pm

re: #453 David IV of Georgia

Friend just called got hit by 18 wheeler. he's OK but I gotta go.

I'm back. In my haste I missed clicking the "post this comment" button.

Oh, I'm glad he's okay. That must have been scary.

463 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:46:13pm

re: #451 MandyManners

*meow*

what is CFB?

464 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:46:18pm

re: #428 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The F-22 is being built for the Navy and Marines in addition to the USAF.

That would be the F-35. F-22 is strictly USAF.

465 gop_patriot  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:46:21pm

re: #453 David IV of Georgia

Friend just called got hit by 18 wheeler. he's OK but I gotta go.

I'm back. In my haste I missed clicking the "post this comment" button.

Good grief! Glad he's OK. Assuming he was driving a car, was it totaled?

466 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:46:23pm

re: #438 traderjoe9

I wouldn't be so worried if I was Tony. Israels own worst enemy - the Jews - is willing to give up all of its land by themselves.

One piece of Israel at a time

Yes what the Al-Qadema Government has done to its own people (starting with Sharon-the-Traitor and Aza) is a complete disgrace to H'S, and an offense to the Jewish people, but what you posted about is one home. Blair will push for the 1st phase of the PLO phased plan!

There is no alternative at that point except all out regional war...and ultimately other stuff I'm not supposed to discuss here.

467 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:47:28pm

re: #453 David IV of Georgia

Friend just called got hit by 18 wheeler. he's OK but I gotta go.

I'm back. In my haste I missed clicking the "post this comment" button.

Good Lord. Happy to hear he is ok.

468 Unboldened  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:47:47pm

re: #133 Zuckie

2 by 2 -

Seems our President-Elect has recited it on numerous times during his youth in Indonesia. The real question is - DOES HE BELIEVE IT? - a question that to date has NOT been answered to my satisfaction, or for that matter to the satisfaction of many Muslims.

Z

I sort of feel like we are seeing the final corpse pulled out from the wheel-well of the bus.

Wish I could throw some /// on that thought...

469 formercorpsman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:48:19pm

re: #457 loppyd

You would think.

But hell, you would think the FEC would be investigating the small donations.

470 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:48:39pm

re: #460 The Shadow Do

A loan package, in conjunction with Chapter 11 reorgs and UAW concessions will save the Big Three, IMO. It's just that Congress seems to see fit to make the auto makers jump through firey hoops, while the banks just had to say "gimme!"

471 Unboldened  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:48:41pm

bbiab

472 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:48:51pm

re: #447 hazzyday

Have you successfully borrowed?

I owned a non conventional property that set all their bad loan sensors off. I get the ads, apply, and get the rejection. And they say making several applications makes you more rejectable. The reason is they tightened credit up. Lots of people in the same boat, that needed some credit margin to extend a business. Shut the credit down and eco waves can do one in. Quickly.

Two years ago I could get credit easy. Then last summer in concert, at the same time the credit was turned off by all financial institutions. They were working on institutional analysis that I didn't have access to.

Yes ... From a credit Union on a new car and from Washington Mutual a mortgage on a third property

473 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:48:55pm

re: #469 formercorpsman

You would think.

But hell, you would think the FEC would be investigating the small donations.

There are "too many" to check. Of course.

474 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:49:01pm

re: #469 formercorpsman

You would think.

But hell, you would think the FEC would be investigating the small donations.

You have a better chance of the FEC investigating the Tooth Fairy.

475 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:49:31pm

re: #452 Zuckie

CyanSnowHawk -

I agree, the Detroit 3 MAY have to go through re-oranization. In this Politically Correct Age, it WILL be called something else. The result will be the same. The transplant manufacturers have zeroed the UAW Contracts. After a fashion, it is a shame that the workers are the ones who will feel the contraction more than (mis) management. Such is the way of the world.

Z

C'mon. Get a little more educated on "the workers" and their plight. They are overpaid, way overcompensated brats but I agree management is worse. Bad business model, they need to reorganize.

476 gclaghorn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:49:34pm

re: #474 Wyatt Earp

You have a better chance of the FEC investigating the Tooth Fairy.

They said they're getting to it, after the Easter Bunny.

477 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:50:15pm
478 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:50:25pm

re: #476 gclaghorn

They said they're getting to it, after the Easter Bunny.

I think President Carter ordered that investigation personally!

479 sngnsgt  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:50:28pm

re: #370 Killian Bundy

I know 0bama is an idiot, but this is far beyond idiot.

480 formercorpsman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:50:51pm

re: #474 Wyatt Earp

Actually, he is taking a power nap at Barney's flat.

481 Alouette  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:50:51pm

re: #408 Iron Fist

Quit insulting houseplants. What have houseplants ever done to you? We need more outreach to houseplant-Americans, so they can take their rightful place in America.

Al Franken is desperately searching for houseplant ballots all over Minnesota.

482 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:51:13pm

re: #479 sngnsgt

I know 0bama is an idiot, but this is far beyond idiot.

Don't drink idiot.

One of my favorite rotating titles.

483 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:51:30pm

re: #480 formercorpsman

Actually, he is taking a power nap at Barney's flat.

Barney Frank's flat?

484 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:52:08pm

BBIAM

485 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:52:12pm

re: #386 Bobibutu

Congress just pisses me off.

Seems to be a universal feeling for about 200 + years now.

Bobibutu -

From experience, being p'eed off is ALWAYS better than being p'eed on. As I remember, PRO-gress is defined as moving forward. CON-gress is defined as ...?

Z

486 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:52:15pm

re: #376 loppyd

Olberdink Compares ‘Grotesque’ Chambliss to ‘Turkey-Killing Machine,’ Carlson: ‘Both Are Killers’

So funny I forgot to laugh.

Here's the link to Mark Levin's Keith Oberlady page, including emails from a couple of Olberlady's exes saying how he, uh, has problems getting it up, and how he's umm, rater "small", if you get my drift.

487 gclaghorn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:52:25pm

re: #478 Wyatt Earp

I think President Carter ordered that investigation personally!

Why would he do that? Carter just has a paralyzing fear of regular bunnies, like the one in my avatar (now you know why I chose it!). The Easter Bunny brings him candy. And he likes candy.

/

488 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:52:44pm

re: #473 loppyd

A person or company should be able to give a dollar or a billion dollars to a campaign, IMO. With that, EVERY single dollar needs to be accounted for from every single donor. And, no Federal matching funds anymore! Any money left over from a campaign must be given back to the donors in a proportional manner to zero out that election account. The DNC/RNC would only be able to match up to five percent of total contributions to a candidate.

That would be true campaign finance reform. Bet McCain wished he had never authored his bill in the first place!

489 Joan  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:52:59pm

re: #76 FrogMarch

WTF?

President-elect Barack Obama’s aides say he is considering making a major foreign policy speech from an Islamic capital during his first 100 days in office.

Would he dare such a speech in Bombay? Would his sonorous, puritanical homily about the unpleasant, unfortunate "rift" be well received? The insult and shallowness of such a publicity stunt is too macabre, even for The One to carry off.

490 EmmmieG  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:53:03pm

Ah, I remember when I was a new hatchling...a week ago. (time flies, doesn't it?)

I was so nervous the window would close before I could finish registering I accidentally put 3 m's in my name. If we ever get to where I could fix that, that would be nice.

491 VegasRick  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:53:06pm

re: #483 Wyatt Earp

Barney Frank's flat?


Bawney Fwanks fat!

492 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:53:16pm

re: #483 Wyatt Earp

Barney Frank's flat?

Of course he is, if he had tits, they'd call him Bonnie.

493 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:53:20pm

re: #487 gclaghorn

Why would he do that? Carter just has a paralyzing fear of regular bunnies, like the one in my avatar (now you know why I chose it!). The Easter Bunny brings him candy. And he likes candy.

/

Hey, I want candy! (Oh God, I feel like Bow Wow Wow.)

494 loflyer  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:53:55pm

Arr, evening mates, I am fat and happy after a birthday dinner in honor of 'me self. Who's fighting whom? Or are we a happy family this evening?

495 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:53:56pm

re: #436 orAaron

I have arrived.

Are we supposed to be impressed?

496 Spiny Norman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:53:58pm

re: #450 lawhawk

Throw in the fact that the F-15s have to be phased out eventually as well and you're starting to run into logistical issues of trying to have enough aircraft to handle all the missions. Even if more missions are tasked to UAVs, you are still going to need airframes available for many kinds of missions.

The thing is, they (the F-15 and F-16) don't have to be phased out anytime soon. Both are still very capable platforms and, in real-world combat, vastly outclass anything they're likely to encounter (war games don't count). Soviet/Russian types, no matter how wiz-bang, have never lived up to their hype. Just replace the current (aging) airframes with updated models (both are still in production for foreign customers).

497 EmmmieG  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:54:09pm

Filled up the minivan (full of future lizards). Cost HALF of what it did this summer.

498 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:54:12pm

1. The roundest knight at King Arthur's round table was Sir Cumference. He acquired his size from too much pi.
2. I thought I saw an eye doctor on an Alaskan island, but it turned out to be an optical Aleutian.
3. She was only a whisky maker, but he loved her still.
4. A rubber band pistol was confiscated from algebra class because it was a weapon of math disruption.
5. The butcher backed into the meat grinder and got a little behind in his work.
6. No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.
7. A dog gave birth to puppies near the road and was cited for littering.
8. A grenade thrown into a kitchen in France would result in Linoleum Blown apart.
9. Two silk worms had a race. They ended up in a tie.
10. Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
11. A hole has been found in the nudist camp wall. The police are looking into it.
12. Atheism is a non-prophet organisation.
13. Two hats were hanging on a hat rack in the hallway. One hat said to the other, "You stay here, I'll go on a head."
14. I wondered why the baseball kept getting bigger. Then it hit me.
15. A sign on the lawn at a drug rehab centre said: "Keep off the Grass."
16. A small boy swallowed some coins and was taken to a hospital. When his grandmother telephoned to ask how he was, a nurse said, "No change yet."
17. A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.
18. It's not that the man did not know how to juggle, he just didn't have the balls to do it.
19. The short fortune-teller who escaped from prison was a small medium at large.
20. The soldier who survived mustard gas and pepper spray is now a seasoned veteran.
21. A backward poet writes inverse.
22. In democracy it's your vote that counts. In feudalism it's your count that votes.
23. When cannibals ate a missionary, they got a taste of religion.
24. Don't join dangerous cults: Practice safe sects.

499 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:54:14pm

re: #492 CyanSnowHawk

Of course he is, if he had tits, they'd call him Bonnie.

He;s got Man Boobs, does that count ?

(no ,, wait ,, her IS a man boob ,, neveahmind ! )

500 swamprat  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:54:21pm

re: #412 Bobibutu

iirc @ $74 bbl they are hosed.

We need to "embargo" their butts.

$65? No thanks.

Well, what about 63?

Don't need any to day.

60? Not much.

58? Ok, I'll take some.


Money for Palestine missiles and carbombs dry up.
Money for Iraqi terror dries up.
Indonesian "independence" goes unfunded.
Cartoon agitators have to pay their own way.
Fatwa rewards would be two for one Slurpees. (Theo van Gogh would be alive)
CAIR would have to have a bake sale.
Pakistan might have schools where reading writing and arithmetic replaces rhetoric, reciting and rabble rousing.

501 gop_patriot  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:54:32pm

Well I'm freezing. Going to listen to some music, drink a beer, and take a nice hot bath.

bbiab

502 formercorpsman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:54:42pm

re: #483 Wyatt Earp

I know, lame attempt.

503 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:54:46pm

re: #454 CyanSnowHawk

A lot of those costs are already sunk. They were part of the development. Cost per plane is significantly less if you don't include the already spent dev costs. Some of that dev cost is in my wallet BTW, I work for one of the contractors.

CyanSnowHawk -

COOL, some of the Dev Cost being in your wallet. When do we do the F-47?

Z

504 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:54:52pm

re: #499 sattv4u2

He;s got Man Boobs, does that count ?

(no ,, wait ,, her IS a man boob ,, neveahmind ! )

He needs either The Manzier, or The Bro.

505 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:55:23pm

See y'all later, I'm headed home from my 'safe until next years defense budget' defense contractor job.

506 traderjoe9  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:55:26pm

re: #466 WrathofG-d

Yes what the Al-Qadema Government has done to its own people (starting with Sharon-the-Traitor and Aza) is a complete disgrace to H'S, and an offense to the Jewish people, but what you posted about is one home. Blair will push for the 1st phase of the PLO phased plan!

There is no alternative at that point except all out regional war...and ultimately other stuff I'm not supposed to discuss here.

Its far from "just one" home. We've already evicted thousands of Jews from Gaza and the West Bank. Now we are evicting the few hundred that live in Hebron, and Kadima and other liberal groups have vowed that they would support the land for peace plan. They even criticize Likud for not accepting land for peace - that's how bad it has gotten.

Fuck liberals.

507 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:55:27pm

re: #486 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Here's the link to Mark Levin's Keith Oberlady page, including emails from a couple of Olberlady's exes saying how he, uh, has problems getting it up, and how he's umm, rater "small", if you get my drift.

PIMF- Rather small.

508 gclaghorn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:55:30pm

re: #493 Wyatt Earp

Hey, I want candy! (Oh God, I feel like Bow Wow Wow.)

*Slaps hand* Wait your turn like all the other good little children! There's enough candy to go around.

/

509 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:56:00pm

re: #459 legalpad

"Fairness" is one of the code words Marxists use to cloak their totalitarian intent. Stalin didn't really mean to starve all those Ukrainians, he was just trying to "fairly" distribute food. "From each according to his measure, to each according to his needs" is all about "fairness". As is guarenteeing equality of result. Equality of oppertunity is, at best, an illusion. Any disparity in results is unfair, and "unfairness" needs to be combatted by any and all means necessary.

Of course, what they call "fairness" means the vast majority of people "enjoy" an equality of misery. Of course, the Leaders don't partake of this misery. After all, it just wouldn't be fair for them to live the way everybody else does.

510 gclaghorn  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:56:06pm

re: #486 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Keith Oberlady

Keith Olberwomann?

511 formercorpsman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:56:18pm

re: #498 WrathofG-d

No more sharing straws with Buzz.

512 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:56:21pm

What's happenin'?

513 Killian Bundy  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:56:40pm

re: #479 sngnsgt

I know 0bama is an idiot, but this is far beyond idiot.

/yes, sir, very much so, sir, very obviously far beyond idiot

514 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:56:41pm

re: #500 swamprat

We need to "embargo" their butts.

$65? No thanks.

Well, what about 63?

Don't need any to day.

60? Not much.

58? Ok, I'll take some.


Money for Palestine missiles and carbombs dry up.
Money for Iraqi terror dries up.
Indonesian "independence" goes unfunded.
Cartoon agitators have to pay their own way.
Fatwa rewards would be two for one Slurpees. (Theo van Gogh would be alive)
CAIR would have to have a bake sale.
Pakistan might have schools where reading writing and arithmetic replaces rhetoric, reciting and rabble rousing.

swamprat -

From your intentions to the ear of Ha-Shem.

Z

515 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:57:16pm

re: #483 Wyatt Earp

Barney Frank's flat?

re: #492 CyanSnowHawk

Of course he is, if he had tits, they'd call him Bonnie.

I'm sure Barney's boyfriend calls him something similar.

516 sngnsgt  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:57:41pm

re: #482 loppyd

Especially if it's Kool-Ade.

517 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:58:24pm

re: #515 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm sure Barney's boyfriend calls him something similar.

*shudder*

518 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:58:30pm

Well time to call it night. See ya all tomorrow.

L8R

519 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:58:45pm

New thread, I'm off.................

520 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:58:47pm

re: #493 Wyatt Earp

Hey, I want candy! (Oh God, I feel like Bow Wow Wow.)

I always thought that Bow Wow Wow singer chick was hot, even with the extremely bad hair.

521 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:58:48pm

re: #496 Spiny Norman

The thing is, they (the F-15 and F-16) don't have to be phased out anytime soon. Both are still very capable platforms and, in real-world combat, vastly outclass anything they're likely to encounter (war games don't count). Soviet/Russian types, no matter how wiz-bang, have never lived up to their hype. Just replace the current (aging) airframes with updated models (both are still in production for foreign customers).

The F-15s are flying past their design life thanks to Iraq and Afghanistan, so are the F-16s. We no longer have the production lines to build new ones. It is less expensive to continue with the F-35 and F-22 production. For all their expense, it would cost more to restart the older lines.

522 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:58:52pm

re: #500 swamprat

We need to "embargo" their butts.

$65? No thanks.

Well, what about 63?

Don't need any to day.

60? Not much.

58? Ok, I'll take some.


Money for Palestine missiles and carbombs dry up.
Money for Iraqi terror dries up.
Indonesian "independence" goes unfunded.
Cartoon agitators have to pay their own way.
Fatwa rewards would be two for one Slurpees. (Theo van Gogh would be alive)
CAIR would have to have a bake sale.
Pakistan might have schools where reading writing and arithmetic replaces rhetoric, reciting and rabble rousing.

A few months ago any surplus oil was snapped up by China keeping the price up. China now has a few internal problems and not buying so quickly. Interesting game.

523 Occasional Reader  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:59:42pm

re: #496 Spiny Norman

The thing is, they (the F-15 and F-16) don't have to be phased out anytime soon. Both are still very capable platforms and, in real-world combat, vastly outclass anything they're likely to encounter

Sorry, I disagree. Remember the F-15/Indian Su-30 matchup from a couple years back. If we rest on laurels from the 1970s, we're in trouble.

524 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 6:59:42pm

Barney Frank. Just a potential of a mental image of him "involved" makes me wanna retch. Ick.

525 razorbacker  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:00:01pm

The Marines Are Right And The Army Is Wrong

A third factor has to do with the "no booze" policy in combat zones. While many guys can unwind with Xbox and a Marlboro, others really need a few beers. Twelve months, even if broken up by one or two short vacations, is a long time to go without an occasional drink.

Heh. I read once that Ghengis Khan (or however Kerry spells it) wanted his hordes to never drink, but realizing that was impractical settled for allowing them to get drunk once a month.

526 The Shadow Do  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:00:45pm

re: #470 6pat6

A loan package, in conjunction with Chapter 11 reorgs and UAW concessions will save the Big Three, IMO. It's just that Congress seems to see fit to make the auto makers jump through firey hoops, while the banks just had to say "gimme!"

The banks crap out and it is all over, for everyone, not just car companies. Keep the horse in front of the cart - chapter 11 first, then reconstitute with Fed money assistance/assurances as needed to help keep folks afloat. Auto makers and their employees are going to have to go through firey hoops until they get it right. It is inevitable.

527 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:01:06pm

re: #521 CyanSnowHawk

Both are still being built for export. The lines are still open. Building more for the US is only money...which the gub'mint apparently has trillions of now.

528 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:01:28pm

re: #510 gclaghorn

Keith Olberwomann?

Olberdunce?

529 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:02:08pm

re: #526 The Shadow Do

The banks crap out and it is all over, for everyone, not just car companies. Keep the horse in front of the cart - chapter 11 first, then reconstitute with Fed money assistance/assurances as needed to help keep folks afloat

So we just print trillions more of worthless paper and call it good, I guess.

530 legalpad  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:02:18pm

re: #509 Iron Fist

Oh, that's right. The Marxists are big on code words. Crowd control methods. It's just unbelievable to see people parrot this crap like it makes sense.

531 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:03:11pm

re: #523 Occasional Reader

In warfare, second best doesn't get a smaller trophy. Second best dies.

Everytime.

532 David Simon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:03:14pm

re: #470 6pat6

A loan package, in conjunction with Chapter 11 reorgs and UAW concessions will save the Big Three, IMO. It's just that Congress seems to see fit to make the auto makers jump through firey hoops, while the banks just had to say "gimme!"

I'm not sure what you mean. The government gets senior preferred (with a decent dividend) plus ten year warrants. Where's the "gimme?"

533 loppyd  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:04:22pm

It's off to bed for me.

Have to get up early to deal with my broken down car. :(

The dude who "fixed" it a few months back is going to be dealing with me bright and early.

'Night!

534 razorbacker  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:04:57pm

re: #529 6pat6

So we just print trillions more of worthless paper and call it good, I guess.

Who knows? Maybe if we can get some really good hyperinflation going a charismatic leader who makes really neato speeches will arise and lead us to a new ten century period of greatness.

Now if I can only think of a cool name for that.

535 Occasional Reader  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:05:33pm

re: #531 Iron Fist

In warfare, second best doesn't get a smaller trophy. Second best dies.

Everytime.

Yep. And I want our guys to be a fucking generation ahead of the competition, not just a little bit ahead.

I hope Gates can convince The One of the importance of this.

536 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:07:00pm

re: #485 Zuckie

Bobibutu -

From experience, being p'eed off is ALWAYS better than being p'eed on. As I remember, PRO-gress is defined as moving forward. CON-gress is defined as ...?

Z

What's new?

537 Right mind left  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:07:16pm

re: #528 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Olberdunce?

Olbermaanbat

538 The Shadow Do  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:07:29pm

re: #529 6pat6

So we just print trillions more of worthless paper and call it good, I guess.

Pretty close to right in a way. There will be a lot of printing and inflation will be its stepchild. But we will avoid 30's dustbowl conditions and complete collapse. What is happening is not good, but it could well be a whole lot worse.

539 formercorpsman  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:07:41pm

Take it easy guys, I'm out.

540 legalpad  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:08:18pm

re: #525 razorbacker

The Marines Are Right And The Army Is Wrong

Heh. I read once that Ghengis Khan (or however Kerry spells it) wanted his hordes to never drink, but realizing that was impractical settled for allowing them to get drunk once a month.

OK. I think I agree with this. I don't drink much, but the shorter tours make sense.

541 sngnsgt  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:09:08pm
WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrats are growing impatient with President-elect Barack Obama's refusal to inject himself in the major economic crises confronting the country.

Bawney Fwank says, "Bawack's going to have to be more aswertive than he's bwen."

Democrats want a more assertive Obama

542 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:11:25pm

re: #532 David Simon

I'm not sure what you mean. The government gets senior preferred (with a decent dividend) plus ten year warrants. Where's the "gimme?"

I may have misstated that a little, but it really galls me that the banks in this country, getting in trouble by playing by fast rules that Congress passed, essentially gets a pass on all of this. Banks produce nothing. They are simply a finance conduit, nothing more. The government has effectively nationalized the mortgage, banking, and soon, the auto industries. The government is literally in charge. Yeah, the banking industry is "paying back" the money in the same way that the government deficit gets paid off, then shoots to three and four trillion dollars. It's insanity that Congress has allowed through laws that people like Biden and Dodd have written, then the Congress has the audacity to hold itself blameless (remember Pelosi's statement last month?) for the current climate!

It's all smoke and mirrors. It's insanity. It will not get resolved without the economy plummeting into a Depression-style scenario, which Congress will happily embrace. People dependent on the giant gub'mint tit, ala 1933. The Jackasses' dream. And nothing gets fixed.

543 gringo69  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:12:00pm

nite e nite

544 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:13:01pm

re: #538 The Shadow Do

What is happening is not good, but it could well be a whole lot worse.

True enough. But I believe that Congress is 100% behind these events that caused the financial collapse. They want total economic control, and they are getting it.

545 The Shadow Do  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:16:54pm

re: #544 6pat6

True enough. But I believe that Congress is 100% behind these events that caused the financial collapse. They want total economic control, and they are getting it.

I don't see conspiracy, just a whole lot of self interest and ... stupid.

546 Iron Fist  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:17:34pm

re: #535 Occasional Reader

The best kind of warfare is one where you defeat the Enemy so thoroughly that their decendants puke in fear at the thought of being confronted by you.

If you leave enough of them alive to have decendants at all.

A fair is a place they give ribbons to prize hogs. It has no place in a fight.

547 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:24:49pm

The first wave will all be killed.
The second also.
And the third.
A few from the fourth will reach the objective.
The fifth wave will capture the position.
Thank you, gentlemen.

-Mangin

548 David Simon  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:25:09pm

re: #542 6pat6

I can't say I'm happy about the mess, but there are some very smart people in charge of the "bailout" (which has actually morphed into a more sensible program). Read this:

[Link: treas.gov...]

Far from rewarding the deadbeats, the strong banks will be encouraged to lend - and pay off the government as quickly as possible.

549 Zuckie  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:53:55pm

re: #522 Bobibutu

A few months ago any surplus oil was snapped up by China keeping the price up. China now has a few internal problems and not buying so quickly. Interesting game.

Bobibutu -

So long as Jihadi Funding suffers - WHO CARES?

Z

550 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 7:59:22pm

My friend whose car was hit by the 18 wheeler says he is OK, but has a twinge in his lower back.

The truck changed lanes into his car catching it right about the driver's door and ended up pushing the car in front of the truck awhile until it could get stopped. The car was drivable....insurance people will decide if it's totaled, but my guess is that the frame is bent.

He's lucky—I've seen other truck/auto wrecks that were infinitely worse.

551 Promethea  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 8:10:56pm

re: #490 EmmmieG

Ah, I remember when I was a new hatchling...a week ago. (time flies, doesn't it?)

I was so nervous the window would close before I could finish registering I accidentally put 3 m's in my name. If we ever get to where I could fix that, that would be nice.


It makes you distinctive.

552 6pat6  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 8:23:54pm

re: #548 David Simon

I really hope you are right.

553 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 8:30:06pm

re: #550 David IV of Georgia

Yikes. Reminds me of when my older sister totaled her car almost two years ago. She was on a ramp between freeways to the left of a big semi; somehow she lost control of the car and veered off the road, then jerked the wheel way too far back to the right, hit the front wheel of the semi, and went spinning off the road. The car was a horrible mess, completely beyond help, but she walked away without a scratch.

I drive the same kind of car she had (first-generation Mitsubishi Diamante). I don't know if I'll ever find myself in that situation, but if I do at least I know I have a good chance of surviving it. They're far from the best cars in the world, but they're solid.

554 Bobibutu  Thu, Dec 4, 2008 9:41:19pm

re: #549 Zuckie

Bobibutu -

So long as Jihadi Funding suffers - WHO CARES?

Z

If it was only that simple.

555 Izzy Dunne  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:17:53am

Don’t register with a proxy.


If you marry a proxy, you have a proxy mate.


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