Just out of curiosity, how many total posts have there been in the last 60 days?

What, other stories on the Nirth Certifikate? But, but, it's going to the supreme court? It' s important! Why don't you listen to us?

/kook mode off.
//keep up the good work boss.

The Purple San Gabriel mountains of California in the morning sunlight. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.

(which I won't put on a thread about islamic terrorists)

Good morning.

Obama doesn't need a nirth certifikit--he's evolved.

Some people just didn't get enough attention as children...

Guess you were too busy bashing creationists from you ivory tower...

Wait wait wait

When did you move from the subterranean nitrogen-filled chamber to an ivory tower, Charles?

re: #1 bosforus

Just out of curiosity, how many total posts have there been in the last 60 days?

More than 600.

Heck - the emoluments thing has more legs than this!

Morning Charles..
I like the science threads...But as soon as we start talking about science people jump in about creationism and God..
I think i posted this yesterday.. ' An ID thread is nature's way of thinning the herd' LOL

re: #7 Charles

More than 600.

Ha ha ha, I'm pretty sure that most Jihadists spend more than 3% of their time on their Jihad.

Troofers to the Left, Kooks to the Right, here I am stuck in the middle...

Of course, the insanity around the Trig Palin pregnancy continues unabated, as does the nonsense about Obama's birth certificate and 9/11 trooferism hasn't stopped since the towers were destroyed by Islamic terrorists on 9/11. And it will continue on ad nauseum because it fits their worldviews, facts be damned.

Nothing will convince these people otherwise and it shouldn't surprise anyone that once someone goes down the rabbit hole of one conspiracy, they start proffering other ones: see Berg, Philip, as chief example.

Natural Selection... it's only natural!

re: #6 Occasional Reader

Wait wait wait

When did you move from the subterranean nitrogen-filled chamber to an ivory tower, Charles?

Well, that would explain the problems with getting the checks from payroll... /

re: #7 Charles

More than 600.

So 18 posts out of over 600 total posts, that's a maximum of 3% of posts being about evolution or scientific advances.

Wow, what a substantial number! What a jihad on Christianity there!
/sarc

Fewer than 3% of all comments, and they go berserk. Some folks just have too much time on their hands and are too touchy about their sacred cows.

My daughter, born in State A, had no birth notice in the paper for three weeks.

Is the truther a Ron Paul supporter?
Does he realize that if Obama is deemed an illegal candidate we get Biden as president?

OOO OOO, maybe he is a Biden/Clinton plant? thats it. great left wing conspiracy we could get going.

here's my take: OK lets say he was born in Kenya, Paraguay, France, or Bosnia... So what? His parents are Americans, ergo: He's an American.

re: #7 Charles

More than 600.

so a huge proportion of those posts *were* creationist... jihad!

/moonbat math major

re: #8 buzzsawmonkey

OT - but for you...

Have you ever seen "Walk Hard - The Dewey Cox Story?" It is right up you comedic alley.

Charles, you should know that those who believe in evolution don't burn in a lake of fire. The Ninth Ring of Hell is a frozen lake.

Charles THAT should be in your favorites list:

re: #8 buzzsawmonkey

I fell into a burning lake of fire
With my Darwin books, from creationist ire
And it burns, burns, burns
The lake of fire
The lake of fire

do do do do do
do do do
do do do do do
do do do

There is no evolution. There is only a list of animals that Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

To be perfectly fair, 2 of the 14 actual posts (not tech notes/open threads/server stats) on the front page (3 if you count this one) are anti-creationism/pro-evolution/comparing creationists to radical Muslims...

Not saying you're wrong, or that I disagree with you (I Don't if I need to be so blunt.) but you do seem to talk about it just about as much as any other subject here as of late. Just sayin'

re: #17 so.cal.swede

here's my take: OK lets say he was born in Kenya, Paraguay, France, or Bosnia... So what? His parents are Americans, ergo: He's an American.

actually, the law doesn't w*rk just like that, but since he's a socialistic nutcase, where he was born is the least of our worries...

The Troof is out there! ;-)

I wonder if all these Nirthers voted for Ron Paul?

Don't try telling this to the Dollardites at patdollard.com

But besides that, it's a terrific site!

re: #24 Maltboy!

There is no evolution. There is only a list of animals that Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

He he.. I've actually not heard that one.

creationists cartoonists are the only people who can save us from the Nazis

Makes about as much sense. Everybody tries to connect their opposition to Hitler.

re: #21 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Charles, you should know that those who believe in evolution don't burn in a lake of fire. The Ninth Ring of Hell is a frozen lake.

someone else has read the Inferno?

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

Now that we're on a calmer thread, your posts seem to be "saying" things are going okay.

/hopefully

OK. Lets say for a minute that Obama was not born in the US. I am SURE he would have thought about having to produce a birth certificate before he ran for prez. I mean come on. With the resources he has I am sure he could have had one forged. Does anyone think Hill and Bill's people didn't look for anything, including questions about his citizenship, to take him down? These idiots are grasping at straws. LET IT GO PEOPLE.

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

Nope. If it's Will Ferrell, I'll pass.

It's actually John C. Reiley. Saw it last weekend, was laughing the entire movie. Fun flick!

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

Nope. If it's Will Ferrell, I'll pass.

No... it's not... it's more on the vein of "A Mighty Wind" but actually funnier. It's a history of a song writer/performer as he moves through everything from blues/country/rock/pop/bubble gum/har rock etc.

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

re: #26 redc1c4

actually, the law doesn't w*rk just like that, but since he's a socialistic nutcase, where he was born is the least of our worries...

what do you mean? All they have to do is go to the local consulate/embassy and have him registered. It's not rocket surgery.

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

Nope. If it's Will Ferrell, I'll pass.

OH. no WAY! You didn't like ELF? That movie is hilarious.

There might be a legitimate issue regarding Obama's birth certificate but what is the end game? If Obama is disqualified, we don't get Johnny Mac, Republican big spender. We get Bungle Boy Biden. Does anyone really want that?

re: #35 Walter L. Newton

No... it's not... it's more on the vein of "A Mighty Wind" but actually funnier. It's a history of a song writer/performer as he moves through everything from blues/country/rock/pop/bubble gum/har rock etc.

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

Is it out on DVD?

re: #37 bellamags

OH. no WAY! You didn't like ELF? That movie is hilarious.

SANTA! I KNOW HIM! great movie

re: #39 HoosierHoops

Is it out on DVD?

Yep, came out a while ago on DVD.

re: #40 so.cal.swede

SANTA! I KNOW HIM! great movie

You sit on a throne of LIES!

re: #33 bellamags

OK. Lets say for a minute that Obama was not born in the US. I am SURE he would have thought about having to produce a birth certificate before he ran for prez. I mean come on. With the resources he has I am sure he could have had one forged. Does anyone think Hill and Bill's people didn't look for anything, including questions about his citizenship, to take him down? These idiots are grasping at straws. LET IT GO PEOPLE.

I'm a fan of the bendy straws myself. Unless you are doing spitballs. The bendy straws screw up spitballs.

re: #25 s.r.

To be perfectly fair, 2 of the 14 actual posts (not tech notes/open threads/server stats) on the front page (3 if you count this one) are anti-creationism/pro-evolution/comparing creationists to radical Muslims...

Not saying you're wrong, or that I disagree with you (I Don't if I need to be so blunt.) but you do seem to talk about it just about as much as any other subject here as of late. Just sayin'

The truth is that creationists don't want me to talk about this subject AT ALL. Any posts at all would be too much for them. And the complaints always come from creationists, never from pro-evolution people.

re: #31 redc1c4

someone else has read the Inferno?

The Dore illustrated version. His depiction of the traitors at the center of hell has always stuck with me.
/Not that Charles is, of course!

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

Nope. If it's Will Ferrell, I'll pass.

I'm with you on that. Same with Jim Carrey. They just do the same character in all their movies. That gets old fast.

While we are on the subject of kooks, let us not forget that those we otherwise support have their own share of them, and of course they too have "god" on their side.

Israel braces for more trouble after Hebron rampage

I think if we tried we could start a story that is even less credible than the Nirth Certificate that the troofers could latch on to. Like Maybe Obama was built in a Hawaiian Laboratory from spare parts from the Roswell crash and Frozen DNA from Elvis, JFK and Bigfoot.

If I file a lawsuit stating that does it make it true?

/

re: #42 bellamags

You sit on a throne of LIES!

The world's best coffee?!? Congratulations!

re: #21 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Charles, you should know that those who believe in evolution don't burn in a lake of fire. The Ninth Ring of Hell is a frozen lake.

So it's kind of like Buffalo, basically.

Seems to me, if one wants to find the cap-J Jihadis (religious or otherwise) ... triage humankind into the obsessive and non-obsessive. Every last single solitary jihadi will be found in the former.

/and that's the troof of the matter!

re: #43 Ford_Prefect

I'm a fan of the bendy straws myself. Unless you are doing spitballs. The bendy straws screw up spitballs.

Remember the straws that were bent in several loops? When you washed them inevitably some of the soap would get stuck inside the straw. No matter what you tasted soap after the first time they were washed.

re: #45 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Dore illustrated version. His depiction of the traitors at the center of hell has always stuck with me.
/Not that Charles is, of course!

that gave me a great idea for a photoshop... "Baby's first Inferno" touch-and-feel book. too bad i actually have to do work today.

if i were the sort who saw conspiracies in everything, i'd think obama was deliberately not releasing the thing as a way of screwing with people. and distracting them from legitimate issues.

re: #25 s.r.

...you do seem to talk about it just about as much as any other subject here as of late. Just sayin'

And this statement, by the way, is simply wrong.

re: #38 RexFeral

There might be a legitimate issue regarding Obama's birth certificate but what is the end game? If Obama is disqualified, we don't get Johnny Mac, Republican big spender. We get Bungle Boy Biden. Does anyone really want that?

Joker Biden takes over as president until the DNC chooses a new candidate and then we get to have a 2008 election aaalll over again.

But the birth certificate has 2007 borders, no Dr, etc.

Pam is all over this sh*t.

re: #44 Charles

Again, I know, I'm not arguing the point, but you claimed it's 12 out of 600, when I'm betting at least 100 of those posts are not really posts, but tech notes, registrations, and open threads (at the very least 100...prolly more) It's a popular topic on the blog, and to imply otherwise is slightly disingenuous. I have no problem with you writing about it (and I agree with you.) but if you're going to go about pointing out all the stupidity of creationism, you can't go about saying "But i don't really call them out really..." it's kinda silly.

re: #50 Occasional Reader

So it's kind of like Buffalo, basically.

Only without the Bills. So Hell's not looking so bad.

re: #47 Naso Tang

Try to stay within your element.

Getting kinda hard to keep ignoring this story, isn’t Charles. Schmuck. Guess you were too busy bashing creationists from you ivory tower.

I don't think it's a coincidence this clown has a wedgie over Obama's nirth certificate and creationism posts. It's common for paranoid people to project their paranoia across a broad spectrum of their topics.

re: #54 varmint

if i were the sort who saw conspiracies in everything, i'd think obama was deliberately not releasing the thing as a way of screwing with people.

He did release a copy of his Nirth Cert but he's more than happy to watch the right wing nut nutters embarrass themselves.

re: #44 Charles

The truth is that creationists don't want me to talk about this subject AT ALL. Any posts at all would be too much for them. And the complaints always come from creationists, never from pro-evolution people.

Yep. They, ironically, act like Progressives in the attempt to stifle any talk about evolution being fact and theory. As long as we don't barbeque their sacred cow, they're OK with what goes on. But, if we dare set our fact checking sights on their sacred cow, then that's not OK, according to them. It's little different than how the Progressives act when we confront and barbeque their sacred cows.

It is not as fun to watch these kooks in action as I thought it would be.

Thank you Charles for not letting them get a foot hold here. I can only imagine what Kos would do with it.

Everyone leave your tin foil hat at the door please. We have serious, world saving business to do here.

re: #43 Ford_Prefect

I'm a fan of the bendy straws myself. Unless you are doing spitballs. The bendy straws screw up spitballs.

smaller, harder, spitballs. with bendy straws you can spit them at people behind you, beside you, under you. You need two or three good bendy straws, preferably plastic, make sure you blow from the end that goes INSIDE the 2nd straw.

re: #48 fish

I think if we tried we could start a story that is even less credible than the Nirth Certificate that the troofers could latch on to. Like Maybe Obama was built in a Hawaiian Laboratory from spare parts from the Roswell crash and Frozen DNA from Elvis, JFK and Bigfoot.

If I file a lawsuit stating that does it make it true?

/

Wait...I thought Elvis was still alive.

Speaking of potential Obama scandels, what ever happened to Tony Rezko talking with the Feds? Do we know, yet, what was said or how old Tony is doing?

re: #58 s.r.

I fail to see how any of his open threads/ tech notes/ or registrations don't count. A topic's a topic.

re: #67 Ford_Prefect

Wait...I thought Elvis was still alive.

He's not dead...he just went... home.. /mib

re: #44 Charles

, never from pro-evolution people.

Well, that is because we have evolved.

re: #52 bellamags

Remember the straws that were bent in several loops? When you washed them inevitably some of the soap would get stuck inside the straw. No matter what you tasted soap after the first time they were washed.

I loved those straws! Of course that might explain a few things...

This is for my fellow Christians who send little "love" notes to Charles.

Think about how you words reflect on all Christians. Our lives, our actions, our words are all our testimony. If you think the gospel is "repent or burn in hell" I would suggest you take some time off. The gospel is by our lives, actions and words we live Christ, and cause others to seek him.

I would ask as a brother that until you can do that you refrain from participation in topics where your emotions are not controlled by the Spirit.

/ I now return you to your regular programming.

re: #62 gman

It's common for paranoid people to project their paranoia across a broad spectrum of their topics.

Yes, most of the Nert Cert wackos are also Vlaams Belang supporters. It's an indicator of a larger illness.

re: #57 Ben Hur

But the birth certificate has 2007 borders, no Dr, etc.

Pam is all over this sh*t.

No globular clusters

re: #49 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The world's best coffee?!? Congratulations!

Did you have to borrow a reindeer to get here?

re: #50 Occasional Reader

So it's kind of like Buffalo, basically.

I have always linked the 2 in my mind.

I pretty much just lurk but I want to thank you for the evo/ID posts. I wouldn't have known about the wedge strategy otherwise. I learned a lot about evo (even checked out other sources), I wouldn't have cared about it one way or another before learned about the controversy here.

I love how Malkin begins...

Did you know that Sarah Palin-haters are still trying to prove she didn’t give birth to her youngest son, Trig? These tinfoil hat-wearers are as obnoxious and unhinged as the 9/11 Truth cultists who insist that America engineered the jihadi attacks on itself. The presidential campaign may be over, but there’s no expiration date on Palin Derangement Syndrome.

word up.

re: #44 Charles

The truth is that creationists don't want me to talk about this subject AT ALL. Any posts at all would be too much for them. And the complaints always come from creationists, never from pro-evolution people.

That's because they don't have a coherent point to bring to the table. They either answer with some pseudo-science that has no basis in any fact, or they just throw fire and brimstone at you.

And for the fire and brimstone crowd, please know what your bibles say. And I don't mean the watered down sunday version you get at those cute little bible studies.

I'm talking about the backgrounds of the ancient languages and cultures, the culture, the mores, the other religious practices of the time and so on.

If you don't have that sort of knowledge, then you can't even begin to start to whip scripture around here in a evolution thread.

re: #50 Occasional Reader

So it's kind of like Buffalo, basically.

and here i thought hell was other people...

kinda like Daily Kos, writ large.

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

To be fair, Bogart largely did the same character too. But his was better.

I am tired of movies with heroes whose "heroism" consists in their being vulgar, clueless boobs.

Yes, but Bogart wasn't trying to be funny most of the time. How many times can you see the same gag and still laugh?

re: #62 gman

I don't think it's a coincidence this clown has a wedgie over Obama's nirth certificate and creationism posts. It's common for paranoid people to project their paranoia across a broad spectrum of their topics.

Paranoia is a very empowering emotion. It means you think you're important enough for someone to care about watching what you do.

re: #69 bosforus

They aren't news stories / are there for this blog's own sake... again, I'm not trying to sound like a troll here, I love the calling out of any and all idiots from Troofers to Creationists to Birthies, but sorry, creationism is a target of your blog and to imply you aren't really going after them is kinda... weird.

re: #24 Maltboy!

There is no evolution. There is only a list of animals that Chuck Norris has allowed to live.

Now THAT is funny.

Made my morning.

"If this is a “jihad,” it’s a pretty lackadiasical one."

Is that some kind of new jihad you invented, Charles?

Let's see we got the war against the infidels, let's call that "Jihad Classic", then we got the peaceful inner struggle to be a better person, let's call that "Jihad Taqayya", and know Charles has given us a groovy blogger laid-back West Coast "Jihad Lackadiasical".

Kewl!

Let's say the argument about the birth certificate (and for that matter, the one about Hillary being prohibited from her future Sec. of State position due to her vote to increase the pay for same) have standing, in whose court do you think these cases would appear? They would appear in courts where they would stand no chance of being given a hearing.

Save your powder. We will soon be in a target rich environment.

re: #73 jcm

Indeed.

re: #73 jcm

*salute*
Amen!
Please continue!

Jihadiasical?

re: #58 s.r.

the only thing silly here is you...

/green smoke out

re: #74 buzzsawmonkey

Oh, right; that would be the "rampage" of protest by people who had legally bought property but were prevented from inhabiting it being brutally dragged off by the police when they attempted to exercise their ownership.

Buzz. I'll have to go read about it again..But wasn't the sale deemed illegal by the court?

re: #31 redc1c4

someone else has read the Inferno?

Several of us actually... Unfortunately (according to the ones doing the condemning) if you get your cosmology from Dante instead of the Bible you're going, you guessed it, TO HELL!

re: #85 s.r.

They aren't news stories / are there for this blog's own sake... again, I'm not trying to sound like a troll here, I love the calling out of any and all idiots from Troofers to Creationists to Birthies, but sorry, creationism is a target of your blog and to imply you aren't really going after them is kinda... weird.

No, what's "kinda weird" is your insistence that I post about creationism as much as anything else. You're wrong.

re: #92 Ben Hur

Jihadiasical?

Lackihad?

re: #97 Ford_Prefect

Lackihad?

Akbariffic?

re: #79 snopes

I pretty much just lurk but I want to thank you for the evo/ID posts. I wouldn't have known about the wedge strategy otherwise. I learned a lot about evo (even checked out other sources), I wouldn't have cared about it one way or another before learned about the controversy here.

Charles,

I want to specifically, publicly, second snopes on this one.

re: #68 DeafDog

Speaking of potential Obama scandels, what ever happened to Tony Rezko talking with the Feds? Do we know, yet, what was said or how old Tony is doing?

He & Jimmy Hoffa are getting along quite well.
/

Sometime I am nostalgic for the pre-Internet days, when I didn't have to realize that there are so many crazies out there.

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

I laugh at the mirror scene in "Duck Soup" every time I see it. Same goes for a number of other scenes in other classic comedies. But that is the difference between comedy and mere schtick.

Agreed. I still laugh every time I hear the Whose On First? sketch.

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

I laugh at the mirror scene in "Duck Soup" every time I see it. Same goes for a number of other scenes in other classic comedies. But that is the difference between comedy and mere schtick.

You must have thought "Tommy Boy" was funny?

re: #68 DeafDog

Speaking of potential Obama scandels, what ever happened to Tony Rezko talking with the Feds? Do we know, yet, what was said or how old Tony is doing?

The Feds have released that they have been taping some of the conversations of Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. I smell an indictment coming soon.

It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas...

re: #102 Opinionated

Sometime I am nostalgic for the pre-Internet days, when I didn't have to realize that there are so many crazies out there.

Yes, but then you wouldn't know all of us crazies in here.

re: #86 buzzsawmonkey

Well, if it's got Buffalo gals, all right then.

they're standing 'round the outside of buffalo

Oprah’s Got Chutzpah

First Oprah refused to have Sarah Palin on her show because she didn’t want to influence the election. Despite the fact that she’s had Obama on the show, and even publicly endorsed him last May. It was the first time she’d ever endorsed a politician.

Then she produced Obama’s half-hour infomercial. Which, in addition to her endorsement, might have had a little bit of influence on the election.

Now she’s complaining that Palin hasn’t done her show yet:

“I said I would be happy to talk to Sarah Palin when the election was over,” Oprah reveals to Extra. “I went and tried to talk to Sarah Palin and instead she talked to Greta Van Susteren. She talked to Matt Lauer. She talked to Larry King, but she didn’t talk to me. But maybe she’ll talk to me now that she has a book deal.”

Oh, Lord
I just got an email from Newsmax.com which leads with a plea for donations from some outfit called The United States Justice Foundation to help them file suits to compel Obama to produce his birth certificate.
GIVE IT A REST, PEOPLE! ! !

Damn cold here in Buffalo, today. No snow to be seen, though...

re: #50 Occasional Reader

So it's kind of like Buffalo, basically.

re: #105 bellamags

You must have thought "Tommy Boy" was funny?

Faaat man in a little coat.

*shrug* Creastionists are stupid, or ignorant, and will hate you every time you call them out on having shallow views of the world/history/reality. Glad to see you're not backing down.

As for birth certificate troofers, I knew we'd get some form of troofer movement the second republicans allowed Ron Paul to debate on a national forum. they willingly let the crazy in, and republicans are just as responsible as democrats to stamping them out of their mainstream thinking. I just hope we have better luck with it.

re: #38 RexFeral

There might be a legitimate issue regarding Obama's birth certificate but what is the end game? If Obama is disqualified, we don't get Johnny Mac, Republican big spender. We get Bungle Boy Biden. Does anyone really want that?

Actually, if this came to pass, and I seriously don't believe it will, then the electoral college could pick anyone that a majority could agree on. It wouldn't have to be Joey Plugs. It could be Hillary. Name your poison.

re: #112 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Faaat man in a little coat.

Now THAT sh*t was funny!

And I have no idea why.

re: #114 buzzsawmonkey

Hmmm? Not familiar with it.

Get out

"Time is an illusion, lunch time doubly so."
-Ford Prefect

CUL8R

Now she’s complaining that Palin hasn’t done her show yet:

“I said I would be happy to talk to Sarah Palin when the election was over,” Oprah reveals to Extra. “I went and tried to talk to Sarah Palin and instead she talked to Greta Van Susteren. She talked to Matt Lauer. She talked to Larry King, but she didn’t talk to me. But maybe she’ll talk to me now that she has a book deal.”

boo f*cking hoo.

Speaking of "snopes", here's Snopes.com on the subject at hand.

Not buying into any of these theories vis a vis birth certificate at all. The only thing that DOES bother is why Obama didn't go the McCain route with this sorry mess and end the whole thing. I just don't fathom the reasoning here.

re: #73 jcm

Well, said!
p.s. people who think creationism is baseless are not automatically atheists and atheists are not automatically anti-christian. kthxbai

O.J. is about to get it stuck in his a**. Vegas is the best.

re: #82 redc1c4

and here i thought hell was other people...

kinda like Daily Kos, writ large.

"Sartre said that 'Hell is other people.' He was French, so he would know."
/Dennis Miller

re: #101 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He & Jimmy Hoffa are getting along quite well.
/

Rezko's turned into a wiener? I thought he was still alive and just a weenie.

re: #112 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Faaat man in a little coat.

Richard, were you watching Spanktravision?

The DI people can't conduct a stealthy political campaign if Charles keeps posting about it. That's why the complaints will keep coming, and likely why the posts will too.

I think i've figured it out.

[Link: mine.icanhascheezburger.com...]

re: #116 Ben Hur

Now THAT sh*t was funny!

And I have no idea why.

Yup.

"Who was you favorite little rascal? Alfalpha? Or was it Spanky? Sinner."

My favorite conspiracy theory from the past election was the one put forth by Pamela at Atlas Shrugs, that Barack Obama is actually Malcolm X's secret lovechild.

I just can't understand why it didn't take off like some of the other less creative conspiracies.

re: #112 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Faaat man in a little coat.

LOL!

However, my favorite part is when Farley's character forgets to remove the oil can from the engine.

Richard: Hey, I was just thinking. When we stopped for gas this morning I think it was you who put the oil in.
Tommy: Hey if you're going to say I didn't put the right kind in, you're wrong. I used 10-W-30. And besides, motor oil would have nothing to do with this accident.
Richard: True. But you can't latch the hood too well, if you don't take the can out, you no-selling waste of space, I swear to God, you're worthless!

re: #98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Akbariffic?

it's a tarp!1

re: #96 Charles

Well, you see, from a certain point of view (looking only for creationism posts and nothing else), you're going to find that you post only on creationism.

It's the same thing with conspiracies - you only see what you want to see and ignore all facts and logic to the contrary. You could show that you have hundreds of posts and only 3% of them are on the subject of creationism/ID/evolution, and that's somehow proof that you're out to destroy the Christian faith or some other nonsense.

It's a shame you get hate mail, Charles.
It happens to be ''news'' that the SCOTUS is either going forward or ending the whole ''natural born citizen'' thing-y today so it is understandable that some people are interested.
Don't worry about that ''lake of fire,'' threat as it is meant as a symbol in the Bible.
It is simply the same place almost all people expect to go if they don't believe in an afterlife: unending nothingness with no awareness or hope for ''being'' ever again.

re: #110 redstateredneck

Oh, Lord
I just got an email from Newsmax.com which leads with a plea for donations from some outfit called The United States Justice Foundation to help them file suits to compel Obama to produce his birth certificate.
GIVE IT A REST, PEOPLE! ! !

As a rule of thumb, be wary of any group that includes the word "justice" in its name.

OT

Hmmm... just had a late breakfast, oatmeal and mint tea. Good stuff.

re: #105 bellamags

You must have thought "Tommy Boy" was funny?

Tommy Boy is one of the stupidest movies I've ever seen, yet I'll watch it every time it's on cable. I guess I like stupid movies.

re: #81 Walter L. Newton

One shouldn't 'whip scripture' (love that expression!) around anyway.

Its like mental finger-wagging, same as our friends the 'scholars' of the ROP are so fond of doing with their own fingers.

Same mental attitude, it would seem to me.

creationists are the only people who can save us from the Nazis

They also think Nazis are the only people who can save us from the Muslims.

No thanks.

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But did you see her when she said that?
She was acting!
And perhaps she was under the influence of something, too.
She couldn't even keep a straight face and not look facitious. (sp?)

re: #130 Ringo the Gringo

I think that was the one that caused google to yank her listing.

re: #124 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Sartre said that 'Hell is other people.' He was French, so he would know."
/Dennis Miller

ROFLMAO!
I'd never read/heard that! THANKS!

re: #85 s.r.

I understand your point. Just don't agree. Moving on.

re: #131 Honorary Yooper

LOL!

However, my favorite part is when Farley's character forgets to remove the oil can from the engine.

Richard: Hey, I was just thinking. When we stopped for gas this morning I think it was you who put the oil in.
Tommy: Hey if you're going to say I didn't put the right kind in, you're wrong. I used 10-W-30. And besides, motor oil would have nothing to do with this accident.
Richard: True. But you can't latch the hood too well, if you don't take the can out, you no-selling waste of space, I swear to God, you're worthless!

If you remembered that off the top of your head, that's awesome. How about this part:

Tommy: Did ya hear? I finally graduated from college.
Richard: Yeah, in a shade under a decade too, alriiight.
Tommy: Lots of people go to college for 8 years.
Richard: Yeah, they're called doctors.
Tommy: (dumb look combined with head shake)

re: #131 Honorary Yooper

You know a lot of people go to college for seven years.
I know, they're called doctors.

re: #123 VegasRick

O.J. is about to get it stuck in his a**. Vegas is the best.

What happens in Vegas prison stays in Vegas prison.

re: #130 Ringo the Gringo

My favorite conspiracy theory from the past election was the one put forth by Pamela at Atlas Shrugs, that Barack Obama is actually Malcolm X's secret lovechild.

Wow! I love it! Never heard that one.

My son's birth certificate (issued by the U.S. State Dept.) does not mention the name of the country in which he was born.

re: #135 Occasional Reader

As a rule of thumb, be wary of any group that includes the word "justice" in its name.

The Justice League of America notwithstanding, of course.

re: #137 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Tommy Boy is one of the stupidest movies I've ever seen, yet I'll watch it every time it's on cable. I guess I like stupid movies.

I bet she dates one of the Yankees.

Lackadiasical Akbar!

re: #149 Alouette

My son's birth certificate (issued by the U.S. State Dept.) does not mention the name of the country in which he was born.

That's odd.
Does it mention the state or the city?

re: #150 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Justice League of America notwithstanding, of course.

I always thougt there was something fishy about them, actually.

re: #47 Naso Tang

While we are on the subject of kooks, let us not forget that those we otherwise support have their own share of them, and of course they too have "god" on their side.

Israel braces for more trouble after Hebron rampage

The entire southern West Bank was declared a closed military zone to prevent Israelis from converging again on the flashpoint city where a mob of Jewish extremists on Thursday shot and wounded three Palestinians, hurled rocks at others and torched homes, fields and cars.

Dozens of young Palestinians burned tyres and hurled rocks at an Israeli military position in Hebron on Friday and soldiers responded by firing teargas while in Gaza City, about 2,000 Palestinians took part in a Hamas-led protest against the settler violence.

DOZENS = ABOUT 2000? Yeah, whatever. Bullshit. Its the Jooos fault.

2000 palis agains 250 Jews. Nothing like a little equivelance.

re: #96 Charles

Looking back over the past month or so, I found that you're right. Sorry, though I figured out why it felt to me as true. Creationist topics often found themselves going up before the overnight open threads / weekend open threads, so they are what I remember seeing near the top a lot of times when I'd drop by. Willing to admit I'm wrong though. Sorry for misrepresenting your posts.

re: #145 bellamags

If you remembered that off the top of your head, that's awesome. How about this part:

Tommy: Did ya hear? I finally graduated from college.
Richard: Yeah, in a shade under a decade too, alriiight.
Tommy: Lots of people go to college for 8 years.
Richard: Yeah, they're called doctors.
Tommy: (dumb look combined with head shake)

After the deer they run over with their car comes back to life & destroys the car - Tommy: "I have seen a lot of shit in my lifetime. But that. Was. AWESOME!"

re: #155 buzzsawmonkey

I'm guessing a Jerusalem baby.

You win!

re: #148 Occasional Reader

Wow! I love it! Never heard that one.

I didn't want to link to it but if you Google the words Malcolm X, Obama, Lovechild you'll find it.

It's completely loony, and it's not a joke.

She must have spent weeks doing the research.

re: #159 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

After the deer they run over with their car comes back to life & destroys the car - Tommy: "I have seen a lot of shit in my lifetime. But that. Was. AWESOME!"

you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butcher's ass... No, wait.

re: #154 mean Gene

That's odd.
Does it mention the state or the city?

He was born in Jerusalem.

re: #140 Daryl Herbert

creationists are the only people who can save us from the Nazis

They also think Nazis are the only people who can save us from the Muslims.

No thanks.

Yeah -- first the Nazis will save us from the Muslims, then the creationists will save us from the Nazis. And then we'll have utopia!

re: #147 HoosierHoops

What happens in Vegas prison stays in Vegas prison.

O. J. is about to find out how the real world works.

With regards to the courts, the Constitution states that the House and Senate deal with the issue of Presidential qualifications. It is less a legal inquiry and more a political inquiry. Malkin, she is entirely correct. As for Obam'a unwillingness to produce his BC, as McCain did, I suspect it has something in it that he finds disturbing, but the rest of humanity would agree was inconsequential.

re: #142 Killgore Trout

I think that was the one that caused google to yank her listing.

Good. She's gone off the deep end.

re: #164 Charles

But...what happens to the bees?

Oh they dye off in the winter.

re: #159 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

After the deer they run over with their car comes back to life & destroys the car - Tommy: "I have seen a lot of shit in my lifetime. But that. Was. AWESOME!"

LOL.

Lets use an analogy. The average person uses one tenth of their brain. What do you use? One and a half percent. The other part is clouded with malted hops and bong resin.

re: #164 Charles

Yeah -- first the Nazis will save us from the Muslims, then the creationists will save us from the Nazis. And then we'll have utopia!

Now it's all starting to make sense.

re: #124 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Sartre said that 'Hell is other people.' He was French, so he would know."
/Dennis Miller

There is no hell; there is only France. ~Frank Zappa

Late to thread - watching OJ get sentenced.

Geez, Charles, you sure get ah, "interesting" hate mail! LOL!
Hey, ya know you're over the target when you start taking flak!
Keep up the good work Charles.

re: #164 Charles

Yeah -- first the Nazis will save us from the Muslims, then the creationists will save us from the Nazis. And then we'll have utopia!

If I get a note from my doctor, can I opt out on the "Group Hug"?
/just checkin'

re: #156 Occasional Reader

I always thougt there was something fishy about them, actually.

"I'm not really strong, I'm not really fast
But I'll get a dolphin here to kick your ass..."
/To be sung to Five For Fighting's "It's Not Easy."

re: #161 Ringo the Gringo

I didn't want to link to it but if you Google the words Malcolm X, Obama, Lovechild you'll find it.

It's completely loony, and it's not a joke.

She must have spent weeks doing the research.

Research?
Is that what sucking phantasies out of thin air is called, nowadays?

re: #170 Iron Fist

That is not dead that can eternal lie. Yet with strange eons even death may die.

You have to have a lot of Love to Craft a post like that.

re: #130 Ringo the Gringo

My favorite conspiracy theory from the past election was the one put forth by Pamela at Atlas Shrugs, that Barack Obama is actually Malcolm X's secret lovechild.

I just can't understand why it didn't take off like some of the other less creative conspiracies.

She really did that? !

re: #164 Charles

Yeah -- first the Nazis will save us from the Muslims, then the creationists will save us from the Nazis. And then we'll have utopia!

I thought The One^TM was supposed to bring us utopia by being elected.

re: #159 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

After the deer they run over with their car comes back to life & destroys the car - Tommy: "I have seen a lot of shit in my lifetime. But that. Was. AWESOME!"

The scene in dumb and dumber where they eat the hot peppers and squeeze the ketchup and mustard bottles to cool their tongues..
always wanted to do that..

re: #178 Cattt

She really did that? !

She sure did. It even made the Comedy Central blog.

[Link: blog.indecision2008.com...]

re: #145 bellamags

7 Years
Rustler

re: #175 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"I'm not really strong, I'm not really fast
But I'll get a dolphin here to kick your ass..."
/To be sung to Five For Fighting's "It's Not Easy."

Interesting point.

But Shirley surely the most useless Justice League members were the Wonder Twins.

"Form of... a snow cone!"

"Shape of... a puddle of urine!"

re: #179 ploome hineni

whas he sentenced yet?

Not yet. Soon.

re: #177 Occasional Reader

You have to have a lot of Love to Craft a post like that.

Are you posting from your HP?

10 years in Levenworth

re: #48 fish

I think if we tried we could start a story that is even less credible than the Nirth Certificate that the troofers could latch on to. Like Maybe Obama was built in a Hawaiian Laboratory from spare parts from the Roswell crash and Frozen DNA from Elvis, JFK and Bigfoot.

If I file a lawsuit stating that does it make it true?

/

Nah, that's willy clinton.

re: #176 yma o hyd

Research?
Is that what sucking phantasies out of thin air is called, nowadays?

You're thinking about "journalism".

re: #184 Rancher

7 Years
Rustler

You are correct. My apologies to Farley, RIP.

Hot chocolate. Christmas music. And lgf. Life is good.

re: #179 ploome hineni

whas he sentenced yet?

His name should be stricken from every football record book for all eternity.

re: #121 irongrampa

Not buying into any of these theories vis a vis birth certificate at all. The only thing that DOES bother is why Obama didn't go the McCain route with this sorry mess and end the whole thing. I just don't fathom the reasoning here.

Some people are theorizing that, while the original BC may show Hawaii as his actual birthplace, it may have some other embarrassing information not present on the short-form COLB that was released, things pertaining to his father.

BTW even if the long-form original BC is released to the public, it won't end the conspiracy theories in people's minds because at the time Hawaii allowed foreign births to be registered as Hawaiian births if the parents lived in the state for a period of time.

So basically, like most conspiracy theories, this will never go away no matter what.

Not taking a side here, I'm just sayin'...

re: #149 Alouette

My son's birth certificate (issued by the U.S. State Dept.) does not mention the name of the country in which he was born.

He was born in Jerusalem?

If you put any stock into the Quantum theory of infinite parallel universes, then we are ALL right about everything.

re: #179 ploome hineni

whas he sentenced yet?

The state is talking now - then - I think - the judge will impose the sentence.

re: #163 Alouette

He was born in Jerusalem.

I knew it.

Just didn't scroll down!

Is there a consolation prize, or something?

re: #183 Charles

She sure did. It even made the Comedy Central blog.

[Link: blog.indecision2008.com...]

Hey, you can't argue with her rigorous phrenological evidence.

/

re: #187 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Are you posting from your HP?

At his office in Miskatonic U. Go Nameless Horrors From Beyond!

re: #130 Ringo the Gringo

My favorite conspiracy theory from the past election was the one put forth by Pamela at Atlas Shrugs, that Barack Obama is actually Malcolm X's secret lovechild.

I just can't understand why it didn't take off like some of the other less creative conspiracies.

I wish I were Malcolm X's secret lovechild. I bet I could get a lot of free drinks with that.

re: #194 bosforus

Hot chocolate. Christmas music. And lgf. Life is good.

Coffee. Don't work until Noon today. LGF. Right there with ya'!

re: #185 Occasional Reader

Interesting point.

But Shirley surely the most useless Justice League members were the Wonder Twins.

"Form of... a snow cone!"

"Shape of... a puddle of urine!"

Cartoon Network had some funny commercials with the Wonder Twins a few fears back. The water kid was bitching, "What the hell? A bucket of water? A sponge could beat me. Screw this."

re: #149 Alouette

My son's birth certificate (issued by the U.S. State Dept.) does not mention the name of the country in which he was born.

That's odd. My two older kids were born overseas and it clearly states the hospital, city, province and country where they were born. It was issued by the U.S. Consulate in that country.

re: #130 Ringo the Gringo

My favorite conspiracy theory from the past election was the one put forth by Pamela at Atlas Shrugs, that Barack Obama is actually Malcolm X's secret lovechild.

I just can't understand why it didn't take off like some of the other less creative conspiracies.

I still maintain that Joe the Plumber is Trig Palin's birthmother.

I have no reason to believe that O was not born in Hawaii. But... two questions come to mind:

1. Why hasn't Obama just gotten his full birth certificate posted online, everything else that he wants folks to know about him has been. That's what McCain did.
2. Is there no place in the process of running for President where these credentials have to be presented? The Secretary of State of the various states don't have to verify this? I have to go through multiple forms of ID to get a bike license, or start a new company. But someone running for the most powerful position in the world just says so, and everyone believes them?

Confusion reigns supreme.

re: #199 maddogg

If you put any stock into the Quantum theory of infinite parallel universes, then we are ALL right about everything.

Are you re-running season 7 of STTNG? A million enterprises? LOL.

re: #106 Honorary Yooper

The Feds have released that they have been taping some of the conversations of Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. I smell an indictment coming soon.

It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas...

But nothing on the O

re: #196 Crusty

All I see is that this is giving the conspiracy nutters lotsa ammo. Doesn't compute.

re: #198 buzzsawmonkey

Or eleven years in Twelveworth.

Or five and ten in Woolworth's.

Buzz, there is an old Woolworth's storefront with the old neon sign up (doesn't power on anymore) in our downtown area. Its cool and nostalgic. Hope they leave it.

re: #207 doppelganglander

That's odd. My two older kids were born overseas and it clearly states the hospital, city, province and country where they were born. It was issued by the U.S. Consulate in that country.

Jerusalem, Null.

re: #191 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You're thinking about "journalism".

Rightie-oh!
Musta got confused, as they were talking about crea ... oh, no, thats not proper research either ...

Well, its Friday, thats my excuse

re: #203 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

At his office in Miskatonic U. Go Nameless Horrors From Beyond!

Ah, good old MU, home of the Fighting Cephlapods

GO 'PODS!

re: #195 jcm

His name should be stricken from every football record book for all eternity.

So shall it be written..so shall it be done.

re: #198 buzzsawmonkey

Or eleven years in Twelveworth.

Or five and ten in Woolworth's.

Oh horsefeathers...

/

re: #207 doppelganglander

See buzzsaw's #155

OJ's attorney's asking 6-17 years for OJ - telling boring story about Civil War. Yawn.

OK with the discussion turning somewhat to creationism/evolution I feel I should throw my 2 cents in.

First I understand and acknowledge that evolution is real and ongoing.
However:

1) Evolution does not explain the beginning of life, only the development of it.
2) Evolution does not explain the how flora and fauna could have developed from the same origin.
3) Evolution does not explain the creation of matter.

Any science class that does not at the very least admit that these are open questions not yet answered by science is doing a dis-service.

re: #183 Charles

She sure did. It even made the Comedy Central blog.

[Link: blog.indecision2008.com...]

And people wonder why Pam is not taken seriously anymore. With posts like that and the support of the Vlaams Belang, how can she possibly go wrong?

re: #196 Crusty

My theory is that the father is unkown and it list his race as Caucasian.

Woolworth's and Ben Franklin were kitty-cornered in my small town when I was a kid. The Ben Franklin actually had "5 Cents/ 10 Cents" on the sign. The good ol' days!

It's a nice day here, think we'll grab the lab and go annoy some grouse.

Have an excellent day, good people.

re: #81 Walter L. Newton

It is more a matter of the delight certain people get in bashing anyone who says they believe in Christianity.

Personally I think the theory of evolution should be taught as part of earth science. I just do not think it should be taught as a proven fact. If taught as a proven fact, then the young minds of today do not have the desire to explore the world of evolution.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

does not necessarily have to apply to ghosts

re: #213 bellamags

Buzz, there is an old Woolworth's storefront with the old neon sign up (doesn't power on anymore) in our downtown area. Its cool and nostalgic. Hope they leave it.

Get some pictures. Some of us enjoy looking at things like that. :-)

re: #220 Cattt

OJ's attorney's asking 6-17 years for OJ - telling boring story about Civil War. Yawn.

OJ was a drummer boy in the Civil War?
The things you learn on LGF.
//

re: #199 maddogg

If you put any stock into the Quantum theory of infinite parallel universes, then we are ALL right about everything.

There is no such thing as "the Quantum theory of infinite parallel universes,"

re: #209 MSfromtheOC

1. Why hasn't Obama just gotten his full birth certificate posted online, everything else that he wants folks to know about him has been. That's what McCain did.

IMO - so long as you can keep the terriers barking down the hole with NO gopher, they'll never have time or energy to bark down the right hole.

Withhold the answer and you prolong the attention on the ridiculous - provide the answer and they will find something else...maybe something worth finding...

re: #221 fish

You are trying to turn it into one.

Ringo the Gringo,

My favorite conspiracy theory from the past election was the one put forth by Pamela at Atlas Shrugs, that Barack Obama is actually Malcolm X's secret lovechild.

I just can't understand why it didn't take off like some of the other less creative conspiracies.

Poor Pamela. Apparently she's checked out of Hotel Reality.

Didn't SCOTUS - through Justice Souter - agree to hear this case?
I mean, it's not like SCOTUS has anything important to do anyway.
/

re: #204 Crusty

I wish I were Malcolm X's secret lovechild. I bet I could get a lot of free drinks with that.

It's really not what it's cracked up to be.. All us kids had to wear big ugly black eye glasses...
/

re: #227 Honorary Yooper

Get some pictures. Some of us enjoy looking at things like that. :-)

K

Those 600 posts show that LGF is a beautifully crafted piano. Those who flail about whining over the 'evolution' versus 'creationist' threads seem to be overlooking beautiful music due to only pounding on a single key, IMHO.

Other OJ attorney schmoozing judge. Yada yada yada. Yawn. Geez.

re: #221 fish

OK with the discussion turning somewhat to creationism/evolution I feel I should throw my 2 cents in.

First I understand and acknowledge that evolution is real and ongoing.
However:

1) Evolution does not explain the beginning of life, only the development of it.
2) Evolution does not explain the how flora and fauna could have developed from the same origin.
3) Evolution does not explain the creation of matter.

Any science class that does not at the very least admit that these are open questions not yet answered by science is doing a dis-service.

ID/creationism is not science. Full stop!

re: #236 Oh no...Sand People!

Those 600 posts show that LGF is a beautifully crafted piano. Those who flail about whining over the 'evolution' versus 'creationist' threads seem to be overlooking beautiful music due to only pounding on a single key, IMHO.

Lovely comparison!

re: #221 fish

Do yourself a favor, rent (or buy) this set of DVDs.
I found them vastly entertaining, and informative.

re: #223 bulwrk

My theory is that the father is unkown and it list his race as Caucasian.

I think the reason BO will not release his birth certificate is the same as the reason he will not release his medical records and that is because, as a megalomaniac, he has an irrational fear of releasing ANY information about himself that could even POTENTIALLY be used against him.

re: #221 fish

OK with the discussion turning somewhat to creationism/evolution I feel I should throw my 2 cents in.

First I understand and acknowledge that evolution is real and ongoing.
However:

1) Evolution does not explain the beginning of life, only the development of it.
2) Evolution does not explain the how flora and fauna could have developed from the same origin.
3) Evolution does not explain the creation of matter.

Any science class that does not at the very least admit that these are open questions not yet answered by science is doing a dis-service.

Fine, let's just go with your three contentions above (although, I could see a lot of openings for discussion).

Ok, your right. But any science class that admits that these are open questions by trying to introduce a "religious" factor, is doing science a disservice.

That's the only point that Charles, his posts and many of the Lizards are trying to make here.

Even if the nirther's wet dream came true, and it was proved that Obama was born in Africa, Congress would amend the Constitution to make an exception for Obama in the blink of an eye.

You think there would have been riots if Obama lost? It would be ten times worse if they try to take the presidency away from him with this...

O.J. attorney sucking up, O.J. gulping.

Why is it kooky to demand beyond a shadow of doubt (a legal term in very serious criminal cases) that Obama is a natural born citizen?

Is the Office of the President (NOT the fake Office of the President elect) a serious thing?

FWIW - I'm not interested in the ID threads - but guess what, I just don't post to them or read them - problem solved - no bitching required.

re: #232 Dirk Diggler

Poor Pamela. Apparently she's checked out of Hotel Reality.

She jumped the shark when she supported the fascists.

re: #156 Occasional Reader

I always thougt there was something fishy about them, actually.

Aquaman was my favorite.

This lawyer is full of shit from top to bottom. He oozes bullshit. Geez. I'm glad I'm not a judge.

re: #226 Eowyn2

No science is taught as a proven fact. The fact that you can write something like that proves you know nothing about science. That's a fact.

re: #242 CIA Reject

That is also a good theory. As stated mine is that there is an inconsequential item he finds disturbing.

re: #244 claire

Even if the nirther's wet dream came true, and it was proved that Obama was born in Africa, Congress would amend the Constitution to make an exception for Obama in the blink of an eye.

You think there would have been riots if Obama lost? It would be ten times worse if they try to take the presidency away from him with this...

Only one problem with your scenario, Congress cannot unilaterally amend the Constitution. It'd also take 3/4s of the states. I doubt such an amendment would pass in such record time.

Judge: Sir, are you showing contempt for this court?

Lawyer: No. In fact, I'm doing my best to conceal it.

re: #229 Kenneth

There is no such thing as "the Quantum theory of infinite parallel universes,"

Really?

It's not quite right to me to conflate the creationalists with the birth certificate issue pushers.

Since McCain had to justify his American Born credentials because of his Panama Canal Zone place of birth, I have not problem with Obama having to jump through a hoop or two, too. It's part of the political process and Obama is a pol. If someone is raising even a semi-legitimate question, it deserves to be answered.

The only problem with the current processes is that no one forced the issue prior to the election.

re: #242 CIA Reject

Thats scary.

re: #248 jamgarr

AGREED! It's such a mature philosophy - Charles provides SO much variety and previous posts don't get closed. Pick another topic and enjoy, yes? Excellent advice for the hatchlings!

OT and posted in spinoff links but you all have to read this one:

Obama raised $104 million toward election's close

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama's presidential campaign raised $104 million in the weeks around Election Day, a grand finale to a successful bid that shattered fundraising records.

Overall, Obama raised nearly $750 million during his odyssey to the presidency, and his spending in the eight weeks before the election vastly outpaced that of his Republican rival John McCain, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission. The reporting period covered Oct. 15-Nov. 24.

The campaign said more than 1 million contributors donated during the period, with more than half donating for the first time. Throughout the campaign, more than 3.95 million contributors gave to the eventual president-elect, his campaign said.

Obama's fundraising sum was more than the combined total of the two major parties' nominees four years ago. George W. Bush and John Kerry pulled in a total of $653 million in the 2004 primary and general election campaigns, including federal public financing money.

The final numbers underscore how pivotal the two candidates' strategies were for funding their general election campaigns: McCain accepted $84 million in taxpayer money through the public financing system; Obama gambled that he could raise far more from private money.

The two campaigns spent identical amounts in June, $25.6 million each. But from there the numbers diverged widely, until a stretch in October when the Obama financial juggernaut swamped McCain. By then, the Democrat was outspending his rival four to one.

The Republican National Committee, meanwhile, was expected to report spending $30,000 on accessories for McCain running mate Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska. The RNC reported in October that it had spent nearly $150,000 on Palin for clothes and accessories. A party spokesman said Thursday that the expenditures were directed by the McCain campaign and that the garments have been returned to the party.

"The accessories used by Governor Palin and represented in the Republican National Committee's filings both in October and December with the Federal Election Commission were the result of coordinated expenditures at the campaign's direction," the spokesman, Alex Conant, said. "Accessories have been returned, inventoried, and will be appropriately dispersed to various charities."
[emphasis added, realwest]

As I've said before, Obama BOUGHT this election and rented America for four years.

re: #251 Cattt

This lawyer is full of shit from top to bottom. He oozes bullshit. Geez. I'm glad I'm not a judge.

I'll bet he's the best 3 name bullshit spewing Lawyer money can buy.

re: #242 CIA Reject

I think the reason BO will not release his birth certificate is the same as the reason he will not release his medical records and that is because, as a megalomaniac, he has an irrational fear of releasing ANY information about himself that could even POTENTIALLY be used against him.

Very much agreed. It fits that pattern much more nicely than almost anything else I've seen. I doubt we'll see much personal information over the next four years about Obama due to his irrational fear. It really seems Nixonian to me.

re: #221 fish

OK with the discussion turning somewhat to creationism/evolution I feel I should throw my 2 cents in.

First I understand and acknowledge that evolution is real and ongoing.
However:

1) Evolution does not explain the beginning of life, only the development of it.
2) Evolution does not explain the how flora and fauna could have developed from the same origin.
3) Evolution does not explain the creation of matter.

Any science class that does not at the very least admit that these are open questions not yet answered by science is doing a dis-service.

What does all that have to do with anything? ... SO?!?!
*yawn*

Eowyn2,

Aquaman was my favorite.

Even as a child Acquaman struck me as a dumb superhero. I mean really how many crimes take place underwater?

Lawyer says this wasn't a planned act. Lol. I guess he obtained guns to take along because it was not planned. Lol. (OJ)

Gun thread!

The reason Obama won't release the birth certificate is because the nuts who are demanding it are discrediting themselves.

When your enemies are defeating themselves, let them.