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Missile Defense System Success

US News | Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:50:14 pm PST

Here’s a great post at Closing Velocity on today’s successful test of the Ground-Based Interceptor missile defense system: ‘MARK INDIA!’ = Mark Intercept: GBI Successfully Kills Inbound ICBM In Landmark Test.

As I mentioned yesterday, this test was tremendously important for several reasons:

* It was the first flight test of the GBI since Sept. 2007.

* GBI’s are the interceptors we plan to install in Poland. The US-based GBI tested today is a 3-stage interceptor, while the European-based GBI will be a simpler 2-stage version (basically just the upper 2 stages of today’s GBI).

* President-elect Obama has repeatedly said he would only support deploying “proven” missile defense technology to Europe. Okie-freakin-dokie.

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1 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:51:17pm

I bet 0bama finds a way to cut this anyway.

2 CapeCoddah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:51:23pm

Stock up!

3 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:53:12pm

Sharks with frickin' lasers on their heads!

4 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:53:45pm

Most excellent news, but this probably still isn't a "proven system" to Obama.

The sad thing is that Missile defense will be automatically cut back by his administration, even as the nuclear djinn creeps futher out of its bottle and spreads worldwide.
The beauty of these systems is that they were designed in layers, and to overcome all of the kneejerk criticism to Reagan's Star wars. They are workable, and what the hell doesn't make sense about protecting people from nuclear tipped ICBMS?

The chances are that some of those nuclear tipped ICBMs will fly this century, hadn't we better be prepared?

5 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:54:24pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

I bet 0bama finds a way to cut this anyway.

So do I.

6 gmsc  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:55:34pm

re: #4 Thanos

Most excellent news, but this probably still isn't a "proven system" to Obama.

What's proof? This is 0bama - feelings are all that matter!

7 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:56:01pm

re: #4 Thanos

The chances are that some of those nuclear tipped ICBMs will fly this century, hadn't we better be prepared?

There you go again, making sense...

/Geeeeeezzzzzz.....

8 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:56:08pm

re: #5 MandyManners

So do I.

How to paint it as racist so we can toss it under the bus?

9 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:56:54pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

How to paint it as racist so we can toss it under the bus?

The missiles are mostly white.

10 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:57:13pm

What a cool blog!. Check this out.....
Video: Multiple Kill Vehicle (MKV) Hover Test
Most of it is computer animation but the hover test looks like the real thing.

11 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:57:30pm

OT, but somewhat related:

"If you shoot at my tank one more time..."

12 stevieray  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:58:17pm

If Obama doesn't want it, can the Lizards buy it?

Completely change the nature of the overnight gun threads...

13 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:58:45pm

""Our testing has shown not only can we hit a bullet with a bullet, we can
hit a spot on the bullet with a bullet. The technology has caught up," Lt.
Gen. Trey Obering said in November."

14 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:59:10pm
The target was successfully tracked by a transportable AN/TPY-2 radar located in Juneau, Alaska, a U.S. Navy Aegis BMD ship with SPY-1 radar, the Upgraded Early Warning Radar at Beale Air Force Base, Calif., and the Sea-Based X-band radar. Each sensor sent information to the fire control system, which integrated the data together to provide the most accurate target trajectory for the interceptor


Here's a pic of the other radar used in this system just for DPRK.

15 mean Gene  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 4:59:35pm

"The missiles are mostly white!"
hahahahahaha!
Thank you I needed that.

16 arrow75  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:00:00pm

And because of all the radiation, cats developed the ability to shoot lasers out of their mouths.

Some will use the cats for good, others for evil.

17 Soona'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:00:19pm

re: #13 Bobibutu

""Our testing has shown not only can we hit a bullet with a bullet, we can
hit a spot on the bullet with a bullet. The technology has caught up," Lt.
Gen. Trey Obering said in November."

The technology of this must be truly amazing.

18 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:00:25pm

McCheneyHaliburtonBlackwaterBushCoExxonMobileMilit aryIndustrialComplexChemTrail conspiracy!

They are lying liars who lie! We must abandon this waste of money so that we can invest in Green Organic Fuels to power our peace machinery and embrace the humanity of the Umah and all of the world's distinct peoples so that we have lasting peace and borderless prosperity!

/Saving everyone a trip to Kos land.

19 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:00:54pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

How to paint it as racist so we can toss it under the bus?

I'll go with OMD in No. 9.

20 notutopia  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:01:01pm

This is very reassuring. I wonder what Russia and Syria and Iran think of all this great bullseye hit targeting and teamwork?

21 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:01:11pm

Oh crap, we're doomed. DOOMED!

Sun Shows Signs Of Life: Long-Awaited Solar Cycle 24 Starting To Take Off

After two-plus years of few sunspots, even fewer solar flares, and a generally eerie calm, the sun is finally showing signs of life.

Fire up the man made Global Warming machine!

22 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:01:36pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

How to paint it as racist so we can toss it under the bus?

Not racist but SEXIST!

The missiles represent phallocentric oppression.

23 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:01:56pm
Okie-freakin-dokie

Oooh, rocket scientist lingo! Oops, no it isn't:

Do note, McKittrick is not a rocket scientist --- but he manages some and drinks beer with others.
24 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:02:03pm

re: #22 karmic_inquisitor

Not racist but SEXIST!

The missiles represent phallocentric oppression.

Since when does the left care about sexism?

25 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:02:08pm

re: #15 mean Gene

"The missiles are mostly white!"
hahahahahaha!
Thank you I needed that.

No problem!

26 mean Gene  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:02:20pm

re: #21 Racer X

Hmmm...
Guess I'll have to get up to Griffith Park Observatory again soon.

27 FrogMarch  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:03:03pm

Dear Obama,
When it comes to defense, please don't be a knee-jerk leftard idiot.

Regards,
Frog

28 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:03:20pm

re: #19 MandyManners

I'll go with OMD in No. 9.

Where are we going so I can dress appropriately?

29 notutopia  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:04:18pm

re: #14 Thanos

Awesome synchronicity....

30 Soona'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:04:25pm

re: #21 Racer X

Oh crap, we're doomed. DOOMED!


Fire up the man made Global Warming machine!

But if we recycle our plastic grocery bags, won't the sun go back to normal?
//

31 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:04:31pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

Sharks with frickin' lasers on their heads!

Sharks are endangered, so we had to use ill tempered bass.

32 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:04:50pm

re: #11 Noam Sayin'

OT, but somewhat related:

"If you shoot at my tank one more time..."

Coooooool!

Also from that page. (The little boy inside me loves this and it thrilled The Kid.)

33 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:05:34pm

re: #17 Soona'

The technology of this must be truly amazing.

Yes - I've been out of the game a long time ... but did get a private tour or three of some of our latest Naval Ships over the last 3-5 years. Just sitting in the Captains or Fire Control Officers Chair with all the toys turned OFF was mind blowing.

34 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:05:36pm

re: #22 karmic_inquisitor

Not racist but SEXIST!

The missiles represent phallocentric oppression.

Look! Up in the air! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a flying dick!

35 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:05:37pm

re: #32 MandyManners

Coooooool!

Also from that page. (The little boy inside me loves this and it thrilled The Kid.)

OMG!

36 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:05:43pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

Since when does the left care about sexism?

Depends on which identity group is running against the Republican.

Run a woman and all Republicans are sexist!

37 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:06:28pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

Since when does the left care about sexism?

Only when it can use allegations of it upside conservatives' heads.

38 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:06:34pm

re: #36 karmic_inquisitor

Bros before Hos. They don't care about sexism.

39 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:06:56pm

re: #37 MandyManners

They didn't care about the sexism leveled at Hillary.

40 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:06:57pm

re: #32 MandyManners

You are something else, darlin.

I wasn't going to click on that one, but I'm glad you brought it out.

41 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:06:59pm

re: #32 MandyManners

Coooooool!

Also from that page. (The little boy inside me loves this and it thrilled The Kid.)

Haha!

Thats a keeper.

42 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:07:04pm

re: #35 Sharmuta

He now wants one of those recorders but, with sound.

43 FightingBack  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:07:26pm

Imagine the Pres-elect: Uh, this, uh, seems to have convinced my advisors and I. So, I, uh, am going to approve, uh, funding of it. What, I can change, too, can't I?

44 funky chicken  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:07:37pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

I bet 0bama finds a way to cut this anyway.

I suggest the Polish and Indian governments sign procurement contracts ASAP. If the contracts are signed, it will be hard for Obama to kill them.

45 caliredst8r  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:07:39pm

Ronald W. Reagan Missile Defense Site

Nice!

46 gman  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:07:46pm

This was from a statement Obama released last year:

“The Bush Administration has been developing plans to deploy interceptors and radar systems in Poland and the Czech Republic as part of a missile defense system designed to protect against the potential threat of Iranian nuclear armed missiles. If we can responsibly deploy missile defenses that would protect us and our allies we should – but only when the system works. We need to make sure any missile defense system would be effective before deployment. The Bush Administration has in the past exaggerated missile defense capabilities and rushed deployments for political purposes. The Bush Administration has also done a poor job of consulting its NATO allies about the deployment of a missile defense system that has major implications for all of them. We must not allow this issue to divide “new Europe” and “old Europe,” as the Bush Administration tried to do over Iraq.”

i.e. he has no intention of deploying a missile defense system in Poland

47 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:07:47pm

re: #39 Sharmuta

They didn't care about the sexism leveled at Hillary.

That got a pass 'cause it was their own party doing it.

48 Flying Dutchman  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:07:56pm

Hi all,

Maybe the test wasn't that successful after all :

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. military said on Friday it conducted a successful test of its missile defense system, but the target failed to deploy measures that experts said could have helped it avoid destruction.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

49 itellu3times  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:07:57pm

Just so they're assembled in Chicago.

50 Attaboid  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:08:16pm

Far F*ckin' Out!

51 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:08:19pm

re: #40 Noam Sayin'

You are something else, darlin.

I wasn't going to click on that one, but I'm glad you brought it out.

I would've been bored with a little girl.

52 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:08:44pm

re: #41 Racer X

Haha!

Thats a keeper.

I wonder if it was a set up.

53 LGoPs  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:08:47pm

I thought this was just Star Wars hooey./////

Watch the Dems try to cut it anyway.......anything that might be of benefit to all of us is a target to them.

Bastards.

54 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:08:55pm

re: #27 FrogMarch

Dear Obama,
When it comes to defense, please don't be a knee-jerk leftard idiot.

Regards,
Frog


Upding for that, frog!

55 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:09:29pm

re: #46 gman

This was from a statement Obama released last year:

i.e. he has no intention of deploying a missile defense system in Poland

I get the feeling Barry is going to shit his pants once he gets the daily intel briefings. I expect Change™

56 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:10:24pm

Posted on the butt end of the last thread. Always seem to catch that. ;-)>

Liberal Face Smackers

57 CalBear84  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:10:24pm

re: #11 Noam Sayin'

Looks like a LGB took out the bad guys in the van.
Why didn't the tank just do the job?

58 itellu3times  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:10:41pm

re: #55 Racer X

I get the feeling Barry is going to shit his pants once he gets the daily intel briefings. I expect Change™

Change from the Changing Changer?

59 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:10:53pm

re: #55 Racer X

I get the feeling Barry is going to shit his pants once he gets the daily intel briefings. I expect Change™

I also have a feeling that no one is going to respect President Bush more than Obama on January 21, 2009--he'll be standing in those shoes.

60 Soona'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:11:02pm

re: #55 Racer X

I get the feeling Barry is going to shit his pants once he gets the daily intel briefings. I expect Change™

That's all we can hope for, huh?

61 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:11:57pm

Peace through superior fire power and kill capability.
Okie-freakin-dokie!

62 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:12:22pm

re: #32 MandyManners

Coooooool!

Also from that page. (The little boy inside me loves this and it thrilled The Kid.)

HA! Mitch (9) and I just did the same thing!

63 gman  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:12:22pm

re: #55 Racer X

I get the feeling Barry is going to shit his pants once he gets the daily intel briefings. I expect Change™

I hope you are right, but I get the feeling consensus is more important to Obama than common sense.

64 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:12:30pm

re: #61 IslandLibertarian

Peace through superior fire power and kill capability.
Okie-freakin-dokie!

Reach out and touch someone? Long distance says it better?

65 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:12:49pm

Mandy

I used to own this- kept it in the bathroom

66 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:12:57pm

re: #59 goddessoftheclassroom

I also have a feeling that no one is going to respect President Bush more than Obama on January 21, 2009--he'll be standing in those shoes.

It is my hope Obama respects the office of the President..

67 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:13:04pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

What a cool blog!. Check this out.....
Video: Multiple Kill Vehicle (MKV) Hover Test
Most of it is computer animation but the hover test looks like the real thing.

That is incredible. Just picked my jaw off the TV tray.

68 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:14:23pm

re: #62 OldLineTexan

HA! Mitch (9) and I just did the same thing!

You farted?

69 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:14:39pm

re: #65 Sharmuta

Mandy

I used to own this- kept it in the bathroom

This is also a good one. The granddaughter loves it.

70 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:14:43pm

re: #67 bellamags

It really looks like something from Blade Runner or Terminator movies.

71 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:14:52pm

re: #68 MandyManners

You farted?

I thought I smelled something.

72 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:15:11pm

re: #65 Sharmuta

Mandy

I used to own this- kept it in the bathroom

That'd make a great Christmas present!

73 BigMoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:16:07pm

But, but, it's just not fair for one nation to have such power ! I'm sure if we melt all our weapons down that others will follow us.
Won't they ?

74 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:16:22pm

re: #68 MandyManners

You farted?

Who said so?

/No, silly, we HAD to click on the infrared video

75 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:16:52pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

It really looks like something from Blade Runner or Terminator movies.

Do we know its legit? I mean damn, if it is, why aren't we using it right now?

76 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:17:55pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

It really looks like something from Blade Runner or Terminator movies.

I once attended a Shuttle Orbiter brake test on a giant dynomometer. Titanium stuff melted.

That was so much cooler!

77 SixDegrees  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:18:39pm

This ought to give the Russians something to gnash their teeth over.

Which isn't a bad thing at all. Their expansionist nature has been funded over the last couple of years by sky-high oil prices, and like the Middle East they haven't done a thing to diversify their economy with that stream of wealth - although they're in much better shape than the ME in terms of diversification to begin with. With oil hitting around $40 a barrel today and still falling, it's well below the $50 mark the Russians need in order to keep their current budgets intact. So their style is going to be crimped, big time.

Not as badly as Venezuela and Iran, which have budgets based on $75 and $90 oil, respectively, along with antsy opposition movements who they've been buying off with oil revenue and who will now be finding themselves as hungry and empty handed as ever.

Even an economic downturn seems to have a silver lining.

78 CalBear84  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:19:26pm

re: #32 MandyManners

ROFL Mandy.
Thermal imaging has many uses!

79 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:19:29pm
So today, the entire West Coast of North America was a massive test range. Naval units, an Army tactical radar, and a huge Air Force radar all supplying targeting data to two interceptor batteries thousands of miles apart with one of those batteries remotely commanding the other as our largest interceptor takes out a hostile ICBM. In space. Ho. Ly. Crap.

Incredible. Now, if the system can be tweaked to spot Somali pirates and jihadi jackasses....

80 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:19:40pm

re: #76 OldLineTexan

I once attended a Shuttle Orbiter brake test on a giant dynomometer. Titanium stuff melted.

That was so much cooler hotter!

fixed

81 Joan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:20:00pm

re: #27 FrogMarch

Maybe the will to power that drives our Dear Leader will entice him to want the meanest, baddest, weapons and systems on the planet. Please, Dear Leader?

82 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:20:34pm

re: #80 bellamags

fixed

I dunno, those jets may not melt titanium.

Did you consult Rosie before making that "correction"? Hmmmm?

83 maddogg  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:20:42pm
* President-elect Obama has repeatedly said he would only support deploying “proven” missile defense technology to Europe. Okie-freakin-dokie.

I think Obama and his groupies will not deploy this technology as it will be "too provocative".

84 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:20:47pm

re: #57 CalBear84

Looks like a LGB took out the bad guys in the van.
Why didn't the tank just do the job?

Some more knowledgeable lizard could probably tell you better than I, but I presume it has something to do with a tank's round being too hard for a soft target like that - it would have gone through and damaged much more on the other side of the target than the air-dropped bomb, which also damaged a whole lot of shit, anyway.

85 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:21:04pm

re: #75 bellamags

It looks legit but I'm guess it's still in the early stares of development.

86 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:21:13pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

It really looks like something from Blade Runner or Terminator movies.

That website is almost "TMI". There are things I won't blog about.

87 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:22:04pm

re: #12 stevieray

If Obama doesn't want it, can the Lizards buy it?

Completely change the nature of the overnight gun threads...

And it would totally keep the trolls away.

88 Joan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:22:15pm

re: #66 HoosierHoops

It is my hope Obama respects the office of the President..

Oh, yeah. He will respect the office of the President juuust fine; will he ever relinquish it is the question.

89 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:23:02pm

re: #82 OldLineTexan

I dunno, those jets may not melt titanium.

Did you consult Rosie before making that "correction"? Hmmmm?


LOL
Rosie can kiss my dog's ass.

90 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:23:38pm

re: #89 bellamags

LOL
Rosie can kiss my dog's ass.

Good Lord....what have you got against your dog?!?!?

91 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:23:38pm

re: #89 bellamags

LOL
Rosie can kiss my dog's ass.

Charles! Dog abuser on aisle 89!

92 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:24:06pm

re: #89 bellamags

LOL
Rosie can kiss my dog's ass.

I'm calling PETA!

/

93 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:24:22pm

re: #77 SixDegrees

This ought to give the Russians something to gnash their teeth over.

Which isn't a bad thing at all. Their expansionist nature has been funded over the last couple of years by sky-high oil prices, and like the Middle East they haven't done a thing to diversify their economy with that stream of wealth - although they're in much better shape than the ME in terms of diversification to begin with. With oil hitting around $40 a barrel today and still falling, it's well below the $50 mark the Russians need in order to keep their current budgets intact. So their style is going to be crimped, big time.

Not as badly as Venezuela and Iran, which have budgets based on $75 and $90 oil, respectively, along with antsy opposition movements who they've been buying off with oil revenue and who will now be finding themselves as hungry and empty handed as ever.

Even an economic downturn seems to have a silver lining.

I was thinking about this the other day - what if we are in a new battle? A financial battle. There are forces hellbent on bringing down America. They tried terrorism and GW shut them down.

The new battlefront is our financial markets - and it does not look good. But what if our counter attack is to drop oil prices? I mean in the toilet. That will cripple our enemies financially - the same as they are currently trying to do to us.

Who will hold out the longest?

94 newscaper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:24:38pm

The great "nuanced" thinkers are incapable of understanding that a missile defense system does not have to be 100% accurate to be effective, either as a deterrent to attack (by unacceptably increasing the enemy's uncertainty from his POV) or in seriously reducing the damage from an actual attack.

Killing these programs when they essentially work, now, is treason in my book.

95 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:24:46pm

DOGPILE ON BELLAMAGS!

/LOL

96 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:24:54pm

Kasey caught in the act of stealing another dog's chew toy.

97 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:24:57pm

Unproven Ah say, it's unproven!

/Foghorn Obama

98 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:25:15pm

re: #90 OldLineTexan

Good Lord....what have you got against your dog?!?!?

I just didn't want to say Rosie can kiss MY ass because: A) she would like it and B)I would be scarred for life.

99 Adrenalyn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:25:36pm

hate to burst tour bubble about 0bama only approving "proven" missle defense......

a "white flag" is a proven defense too

/ducking

100 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:25:56pm

re: #55 Racer X

I get the feeling Barry is going to shit his pants once he gets the daily intel briefings. I expect Change™

I suspect that he's being going to bed at night these days asking himself just what the hell he just stepped into. It will all be on his back soon. Heh.

101 CalBear84  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:26:12pm

re: #84 Noam Sayin'

Sounds like a reasonable explaination to me.
We've got those jihadists surrounded and overwhelmed with massive firepower, but they are too indoctrinated to quit.

102 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:26:17pm

re: #98 bellamags

I just didn't want to say Rosie can kiss MY ass because: A) she would like it and B)I would be scarred for life.

Rosie bites?

103 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:26:38pm

re: #86 Thanos

That website is almost "TMI". There are things I won't blog about.

Awww..c'mon. Was hoping it would turn into a sci-fi thread. Dang.

104 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:26:38pm

re: #64 Outrider

Reach out and touch someone? Long distance says it better?

Over the horizon targeting ROCKS!
@ mach3 is godlike.........

105 The Other Les  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:26:41pm

re: #56 Outrider

Posted on the butt end of the last thread. Always seem to catch that. ;-)>

Liberal Face Smackers

Youtube Video

106 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:26:42pm

MAN O MAN. Do I need to run away fast?

I LOVE DOGS. I believe my sweet dachshund would take one for the team.

107 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:26:45pm

re: #55 Racer X

I get the feeling Barry is going to shit his pants once he gets the daily intel briefings. I expect Change™

It all Depends....

108 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:26:53pm

A fart book sounds like a lot of fun.
But why settle for a book?

109 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:27:17pm

re: #88 Joan

Oh, yeah. He will respect the office of the President juuust fine; will he ever relinquish it is the question.

I'll bet a Trillion dollars ( thank you taxpayers) That Obama will be an ex-president in a little more than 8 years.

110 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:27:19pm

re: #102 OldLineTexan

Rosie bites?

Even worse visual. I don't want to imagine that. eeeewwww.

111 reggie21  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:27:28pm

re: #21 Racer X

Oh crap, we're doomed. DOOMED!


Fire up the man made Global Warming machine!

25 degrees here in the 'burgh today. Bring it on!

112 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:28:12pm

re: #99 Adrenalyn

hate to burst tour bubble about 0bama only approving "proven" missle defense......

a "white flag" is a proven defense too

/ducking

I think we need to reexamine the whole "white flag" thing. Why is a "white" flag a sign of peaceful intent? Why not a black flag? Or a red flag?

Hmmmmmm.

/ So - do you guys think I can get a job in a university somewhere with that?

113 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:28:18pm

re: #106 bellamags

MAN O MAN. Do I need to run away fast?

I LOVE DOGS. I believe my sweet dachshund would take one for the team.

America thanks your dachshund.

114 CapeCoddah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:28:25pm

re: #92 gclaghorn

I'm calling PETA!

/

Rosie would scare the hell out of my Mastiff.

115 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:28:37pm

re: #103 rightymouse

Awww..c'mon. Was hoping it would turn into a sci-fi thread. Dang.

Jerry Pournelle's writing a new "something big hitting" earth book with Niven...

116 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:29:00pm

re: #111 reggie21

25 degrees here in the 'burgh today. Bring it on!

Drew Carey, frantically spraying from a can upward into the sky:
"Screw the grandkids, I'm cold NOW!"

117 The Other Les  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:29:14pm

re: #115 Thanos

Jerry Pournelle's writing a new "something big hitting" earth book with Niven...

Alright!

118 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:29:22pm

re: #113 gclaghorn

America thanks your dachshund.

she says "your welcome". and a bunch of licks.

119 Adrenalyn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:29:32pm

re: #112 karmic_inquisitor

I think we need to reexamine the whole "white flag" thing. Why is a "white" flag a sign of peaceful intent? Why not a black flag? Or a red flag?

Hmmmmmm.

/ So - do you guys think I can get a job in a university somewhere with that?

you are entirely correct !

why, I think Pelosi would like nothing better than to fly a pink flag

a "code" pink flag

/mu ha ha ha

120 The Other Les  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:29:47pm

Peace is what happens when you run out of targets.

121 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:29:58pm

re: #115 Thanos

Jerry Pournelle's writing a new "something big hitting" earth book with Niven...

They already did Lucifer's Hammer. Something bigger?

122 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:30:05pm

re: #118 bellamags

she says "your welcome". and a bunch of licks.

Is there such a thing as a dachshund that does not think that peopleface is icecream?

123 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:30:11pm

re: #106 bellamags

MAN O MAN. Do I need to run away fast?

I LOVE DOGS. I believe my sweet dachshund would take one for the team.

Its a dachshund? Rosie ain't gonna kiss that or anything else the could be confused with a wiener.

124 pat  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:30:12pm

Obama will likely be unconvinced. Like many moonbats he wants America to be fearful of its existence. it is unfair to have better missiles. OK for everyone else, just not us.

125 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:30:15pm

I'm pretty sure Obama used the phrase "unproven missile defense technology" to give himself a backdoor. That way he can support as much or as little as he deems politically useful.

126 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:30:17pm

re: #100 rightymouse

I suspect that he's being going to bed at night these days asking himself just what the hell he just stepped into. It will all be on his back soon. Heh.

He'll just take instructions from the people who've been telling him what to do right along. No problem! Sleeps like a baby.

127 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:30:18pm

re: #114 CapeCoddah

Rosie would scare the hell out of my Mastiff.

Rosie's been known to tame the most wild dog with a good five seconds of eye contact. Cesar Millan's got nothin' on this chick.

128 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:30:20pm

*sniff*

129 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:30:44pm

re: #114 CapeCoddah

Rosie would scare the hell out of my Mastiff.

Your mastiff is precious. Both of your pups are sooo cute.

130 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:30:49pm

re: #121 JCM

They already did Lucifer's Hammer. Something bigger?

Rosie's Ass

131 thedude  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:31:20pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

this McKittrick?...looks like Dabney Coleman...
[Link: closingvelocity.typepad.com...]

132 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:31:21pm

re: #128 MandyManners

*sniff*

I swear! I took a shower!

133 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:31:28pm

re: #122 OldLineTexan

Is there such a thing as a dachshund that does not think that peopleface is icecream?

don't think so. they like to smell your breath to see what you had to eat earlier.

134 Basho  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:31:31pm

re: #48 Flying Dutchman

but the target failed to deploy measures that experts said could have helped it avoid destruction.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

They always say that. That line is mandatory in any news stories that cover these missile defense tests.

"Oh sure, the target missile got destroyed. But what if the missile went through a worm hole and was slightly out-of-phase with our reality. This technology can't stop that..."

135 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:31:40pm

re: #121 JCM

They already did Lucifer's Hammer. Something bigger?

He's being hush hush about it, not designating what it is. Mini black hole? Who knows?

136 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:31:44pm

re: #130 OldLineTexan

Rosie's Ass

ARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHH!

137 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:31:47pm

re: #125 Kenneth

I'm pretty sure Obama used the phrase "unproven missile defense technology" to give himself a backdoor. That way he can support as much or as little as he deems politically useful.

Nonsense. We have Barney Fwank for that.

138 legalpad  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:31:56pm

re: #88 Joan

Oh, yeah. He will respect the office of the President juuust fine; will he ever relinquish it is the question.

He will - no question.

139 CapeCoddah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:31:56pm

re: #129 bellamags

Your mastiff is precious. Both of your pups are sooo cute.

Thank you. I think he is a cross between a pony and a bunny. My ACD is the head of the household. She would NOT like Rosie.

140 newscaper  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:32:08pm

Regarding...

I think Obama and his groupies will not deploy this technology as it will be "too provocative".

That used to royally piss me off back in Reagan's day the 'reality-based' community didn't see how SDI couldn't realistically be both "provocative" AND ineffective.

Actually, the fact they're not 100% effective is a good thing, in that it lets the Russians know that, although they'd be unable to deliver a knockout blow, neither would we be able to attack them with utter impunity either.

In my book that sounds like a *good* thing.

That said, I can see that basing them right on Russia's doorstep may be unnecessarily antagonizing.

One worry I've had about these systems is 'force protection', security.
The difficulty is that the components of the system themselves become targets -- and they don't have to be attacked with ICBMs. I hope someone on our side is being sufficiently paranoid.

141 CapeCoddah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:32:43pm

re: #127 gclaghorn

Rosie's been known to tame the most wild dog with a good five seconds of eye contact. Cesar Millan's got nothin' on this chick.

LOL, I doubt Cesar would want anything on that chick!

142 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:32:47pm

re: #130 OldLineTexan

Rosie's Ass

Why, I think I've just gone blind in my right eye...

/

143 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:32:51pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

I think it is beyond doubt that Obama will kill missile defense. Ever since Reagan's first term the Democrats have been working hard to ensure that the United States can't protect against ballistic thermonuclear weapons. Objectively, if you look at their foreign policy, oh, since Kennedy, what they've tried to do and what our enemies would like us to do has been strikingly similar.

I'm sure it is just a coincidence. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along, move along...

144 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:32:58pm

This is a Test of Iron Fist's Musical Tolerance

This is only a test

Click at your own risk.

145 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:33:00pm

re: #137 OldLineTexan


bad, bad,...

but I should expect that on a Friday night

146 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:33:04pm

re: #68 MandyManners

You farted?

Captain who?
--George Carlin

147 CalBear84  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:33:12pm

Great thread!
Frist STAR WARS morphed into fart jokes then into Rosie's ASS!

IT MUST BE FRIDAY!
Happy weekend to all.
I'm going home to have several beers.

148 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:33:26pm

re: #132 JCM

I swear! I took a shower!

Yeah, but what did you DO with it?

/

149 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:33:33pm

FNDT?

150 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:33:44pm

re: #130 OldLineTexan

Rosie's Ass

you people quit with this "Rosie" nonsense! I ain't gonna be able to sleep tonight!

/Momma, I'm scared....!

151 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:34:29pm

re: #115 Thanos

Jerry Pournelle's writing a new "something big hitting" earth book with Niven...

Yikes!
Big? HOW big?

/Pournelle is underrated.

152 Adrenalyn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:34:31pm

re: #125 Kenneth

I'm pretty sure Obama used the phrase "unproven missile defense technology" to give himself a backdoor. That way he can support as much or as little as he deems politically useful.

hey, keep San Francisco out of this

153 CalBear84  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:34:45pm

re: #144 Sharmuta

I hate to admit it, but I've always enjoyed Morrisey's music.

154 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:34:54pm

re: #112 karmic_inquisitor

They are out there. The Black Flag is for anarchists. The Red flag has been for the Communists.

155 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:35:07pm

Squidmas carols!
"It's beginning to look a lot like Fishmen."

156 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:35:10pm

Boston Celtics are looking sharp tonight.. They have evolved from the big 3 to the Big 4 because of Rondo..
Watching the team work is a thing of Beauty..

157 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:35:12pm

re: #140 newscaper

Regarding...

I hope someone on our side is being sufficiently paranoid.

A few minutes with an AF guard and his/her Malinois may calm yours.

/

158 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:35:42pm

re: #150 SteveC

you people quit with this "Rosie" nonsense! I ain't gonna be able to sleep tonight!

/Momma, I'm scared....!

Just read Goodnight, Moon. Like 500 times.

159 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:35:57pm

re: #155 Killgore Trout

Squidmas carols!
"It's beginning to look a lot like Fishmen."

Let me guess the next line:

"Buoys in every store..."

160 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:36:17pm

re: #154 Iron Fist

They are out there. The Black Flag is for anarchists. The Red flag has been for the Communists.

The Red Flag was also flown by the Mexican Army at the Battle of the Alamo. There it meant "No Quarter."

161 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:36:40pm

re: #155 Killgore Trout

Squidmas carols!
"It's beginning to look a lot like Fishmen."

I don't believe in your Squid, sorry.

162 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:37:16pm

re: #156 HoosierHoops

Boston Celtics are looking sharp tonight.. They have evolved from the big 3 to the Big 4 because of Rondo..
Watching the team work is a thing of Beauty..

Yep. I'm watching the second best team play Washington.

163 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:37:31pm

re: #149 Thanos

I really messed up my back today bending bamboo poles for my cold frames in the garden. I haven't been in this much pain for quite a while. Booze helps.

164 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:37:42pm

re: #144 Sharmuta

Ack, pffft. I almost coughed up a hairball from that. I'm more of a Damageplan fan.

165 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:37:47pm

re: #153 CalBear84

I hate to admit it, but I've always enjoyed Morrisey's music.

I didn't last a quarter of a minute before I clicked pause.

166 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:37:50pm

re: #161 OldLineTexan

I don't believe in your Squid, sorry.

Some people just got to have something to carp on, ya know.

167 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:37:50pm

re: #156 HoosierHoops

Boston Celtics are looking sharp tonight.. They have evolved from the big 3 to the Big 4 because of Rondo..
Watching the team work is a thing of Beauty..

Just tuned it in. Couldn't stand watching my Wolves get owned by the Nets any further.

168 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:37:59pm

re: #161 OldLineTexan

Blasphemy!

169 CalBear84  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:38:00pm

re: #156 HoosierHoops

Should be a helluva game. Portland is improving.
My Lakers will see you on Christmas!
OK...really going home now.

170 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:38:10pm

re: #164 Iron Fist

I knew there was a reason I liked you.

171 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:38:24pm

re: #143 Iron Fist

Some Dems would love to kill it, but... a good number of the contractors are in Democratic districts. Nobody wants to be seen causing yet more layoff today.

On a related point, earlier this week NATO unanimously approved the deployment of missile defense system in Europe, and the Czech govt approved the installation of missile defense components on their territory. Also, Obama's National Security Adviser Gen. Jim Jones, as a former NATO Commander has lots of contacts in Europe.

This thing is going ahead.

172 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:38:54pm

re: #97 JCM

Unproven Ah say, it's unproven!

/Foghorn Obama

Fogbama Leghorn?

173 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:39:06pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

I really messed up my back today bending bamboo poles for my cold frames in the garden. I haven't been in this much pain for quite a while. Booze helps.

Yikes, sorry to hear that. It will get worse if you sit too much... stretch occasionally friend.

174 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:39:09pm

re: #166 SteveC

Some people just got to have something to carp on, ya know.

Oh, don't play that old cod again.

175 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:39:20pm

re: #172 Sharmuta

Fogbama Leghorn?

Suh-mile when you say that...

176 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:39:27pm

Speaking of Morrisey, I like this version better than his

Youtube Video

177 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:39:45pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Blasphemy!


Aw, man, there was supposed to be a fish pun in that answer!

/

178 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:40:13pm

re: #126 Shay4l

He'll just take instructions from the people who've been telling him what to do right along. No problem! Sleeps like a baby.

Not sure...he has always struck me as someone who has difficulty dealing with reality and 'day to day' stuff. He never really stayed with anything for very long - campaigning was probably the longest he stayed with any 'job'. But at some level he has to know that he's way over his head.

179 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:40:15pm

Missile Defense Takes Off

The ABL program places a megawatt-class, high-energy Chemical Oxygen Iodine Laser (COIL) on a modified Boeing 747-400F aircraft to detect, track and destroy all classes of ballistic missiles. ABL also can pass information on launch sites, target tracks and predicted impact points to other layers of the global ballistic missile defense system.

This week, Boeing and the Missile Defense Agency announced another successful test — the first ground test of the entire weapon system integrated aboard the aircraft, including the firing of a high-energy laser through the ABL beam control/fire control system. Earlier tests had unit-tested other components of the system, particularly the ability to find, track and target missiles in flight.

/Peace Through Light baby!

180 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:40:18pm

re: #174 gclaghorn

Oh, don't play that old cod again.

What's with the attitude? You feeling crappie today?

181 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:40:23pm

re: #172 Sharmuta

There's sumpin' wrong 'bout that there boy!

182 CalBear84  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:40:23pm

re: #165 Sharmuta

15 sec pretty good.
That's longer than I can listen to metal "music".

183 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:40:49pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Booze helps.

Booze ALWAYS helps!

184 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:41:33pm

re: #174 gclaghorn

Oh, don't play that old cod again.

I just flounder in pun threads.

185 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:41:35pm

re: #181 Kenneth

There's sumpin' wrong 'bout that there boy!

I say, the lights are on, but no one's home.

That boy is about as sharp as a wet leather sack.

186 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:41:43pm

The Morrisey version

Youtube Video

187 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:41:44pm

re: #180 SteveC

What's with the attitude? You feeling crappie today?

What's that? I can't hear you. I don't have very good herring.

188 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:41:47pm

The stinkiness of a fart (S) is inversely proportional to its loudness (L).
S = 1/L
Hence the SBD (silent but deadly) and the LBH (loud but harmless)
Is this a theory or a fact?
Should it be taught in science class?

189 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:41:59pm

re: #164 Iron Fist

Love it.

190 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:42:18pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

I really messed up my back today bending bamboo poles for my cold frames in the garden. I haven't been in this much pain for quite a while. Booze helps.


You were doing WHAT? Good Lord.

191 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:42:21pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

I really messed up my back today bending bamboo poles for my cold frames in the garden. I haven't been in this much pain for quite a while. Booze helps.

Getting old sucks.

Try fish oil (Omega 3) capsules. Like instant joint lubricant. Also the Glucosamine with Chondroitin works after a few weeks.

192 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:42:28pm

re: #176 Thanos

Speaking of Morrisey, I like this version better than his

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

It would be difficult to not be an improvement from Morrisey.

193 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:42:40pm

Dear President Elect Obama,

I think you owe the hard working Americans at Exxonmobil a freakin APOLOGY for the gratuitous slamming of this great American company during your presidential debates.

Exxonmobil gain fully employs 82,000 people. All good jobs.

Exxonmobil provides a crucial commodity at competitive market prices.

Exxonmobil does vast amounts of basic research in many scientific disciplines.

APOLOGIZE, SIR!

194 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:42:49pm

re: #186 Thanos

I know better than to click that. ;p

195 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:42:53pm

re: #160 SteveC

I didn't know that. One of the things that started that war was the Mexican's trying to disarm the people. They wanted the people to turn in a small cannon. They replied by telling them to go fuck themselves. One of the flags the Texans used had a cannon on it with the words Come and Take it. A similar flag flies above the Knob Creek range in Kentucky.

196 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:43:10pm

I don't care home much you clown, fish puns are not that funny.

197 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:43:18pm

re: #195 Iron Fist

I didn't know that. One of the things that started that war was the Mexican's trying to disarm the people. They wanted the people to turn in a small cannon. They replied by telling them to go fuck themselves. One of the flags

198 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:43:34pm

re: #188 Spare O'Lake

The stinkiness of a fart (S) is inversely proportional to its loudness (L).
S = 1/L
Hence the SBD (silent but deadly) and the LBH (loud but harmless)
Is this a theory or a fact?
Should it be taught in science class?

As what, part of The Big Bang Theory?

199 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:43:43pm

re: #112 karmic_inquisitor

I think we need to reexamine the whole "white flag" thing. Why is a "white" flag a sign of peaceful intent? Why not a black flag? Or a red flag?

Hmmmmmm.

/ So - do you guys think I can get a job in a university somewhere with that?

A red flag is an old privateering badge. Ships that were intercepted by a privateer flying a red flag were expected to heave to and surrender without a fight. French privateers called it "Jolie Rouge," which was eventually corrupted by English privateers/pirates into "Jolly Roger."

If they resisted, the red flag came down and a black flag went up, signifying that no quarter would be given.

By the end of the 17th century, most privateers and pirates were flying black flags as a matter of course.

/I'd sooner trust you than most of the yahoos who have tenure

200 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:43:54pm

re: #195 Iron Fist

See my avatar.

201 callahan23  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:44:28pm

re: #179 Killian Bundy

Missile Defense Takes Off

The ABL program places a megawatt-class, high-energy Chemical Oxygen Iodine Laser (COIL) on a modified Boeing 747-400F aircraft to detect, track and destroy all classes of ballistic missiles. ABL also can pass information on launch sites, target tracks and predicted impact points to other layers of the global ballistic missile defense system.

This week, Boeing and the Missile Defense Agency announced another successful test — the first ground test of the entire weapon system integrated aboard the aircraft, including the firing of a high-energy laser through the ABL beam control/fire control system. Earlier tests had unit-tested other components of the system, particularly the ability to find, track and target missiles in flight.

/Peace Through Light baby!

Couldn't America offer this gorgeous piece of tech to Israel.
'Cause they are really in harms way.

202 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:44:43pm

re: #187 gclaghorn

What's that? I can't hear you. I don't have very good herring.

Mast I speak louder?

:)

203 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:44:43pm

re: #188 Spare O'Lake

The stinkiness of a fart (S) is inversely proportional to its loudness (L).
S = 1/L
Hence the SBD (silent but deadly) and the LBH (loud but harmless)
Is this a theory or a fact?
Should it be taught in science class?

HA! thats my fave post of yours so far.

204 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:44:59pm

re: #185 OldLineTexan

This boy's more mixed up than a feather in a whirlwind!

205 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:45:41pm

re: #204 Kenneth

This boy's more mixed up than a feather in a whirlwind!

He's not the sharpest tool in the shed. He's about as a bright as a jar of dead fireflies.

206 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:46:11pm

re: #194 Sharmuta

I know better than to click that. ;p

It's actually pretty good, you should try it.

207 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:46:20pm

re: #169 CalBear84

Should be a helluva game. Portland is improving.
My Lakers will see you on Christmas!
OK...really going home now.

In reality.. I've been a Golden State fan most of my life..
And of course a Pacer fan..
But Greg Odem..local boy makes good..the portand center is suspect.. As ESPN the sports guy has noted on his blog that seeing Odem walk in person is like watching a 60 year old hobble..and that was before the microfracture.
I meet Bill Walton in an Airport once.. It was sad watching him walk..My kids could run circles around him.. I think Odems future is in doubt..

208 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:46:37pm

re: #171 Kenneth


Let's hope so. I have never understood the mentality that if a missile shield wasn't 100% perfect that it wasn't worth doing at all. Gun controllers are fond of saying "If it saves one life..." it is worth it.

You'd think that they'd feel that way about stopping multiple megadeaths worth of wholesale slaughter. But they don't.

209 Charles  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:46:42pm

By the way, the Discovery Institute had nothing to do with this success. We do still have a few real rocket scientists left.

210 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:46:53pm

re: #184 JCM

I just flounder in pun threads.


Holy mackerel, that's bad!

211 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:46:56pm

re: #196 JCM

I don't care home much you clown, fish puns are not that funny.

fish puns are just anenome to a thread.

212 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:47:15pm

Here's a squid we can agree on.

213 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:47:15pm

re: #205 OldLineTexan

Smart boy, got a mind like a steel trap...full of mice.

214 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:47:38pm

re: #206 Thanos

He makes me want to gouge my ears out.

215 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:47:40pm

re: #205 OldLineTexan

He's not the sharpest tool in the shed. He's about as a bright as a jar of dead fireflies.

Sharp as a bowling ball?

216 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:48:23pm

re: #215 experiencedtraveller

Sharp as a bowling ball?

Bright as midnight at the bottom of the outhouse.

217 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:48:32pm

re: #209 Charles

By the way, the Discovery Institute had nothing to do with this success. We do still have a few real rocket scientists left.

I guess they were off trying to... discover something, perhaps?

218 Sunlight  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:48:42pm

re: #48 Flying Dutchman

Hi all,

Maybe the test wasn't that successful after all :

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. military said on Friday it conducted a successful test of its missile defense system, but the target failed to deploy measures that experts said could have helped it avoid destruction.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Oh Puhleez... the test went off without a hitch. It is a development program and I'm sure the next steps will include algorithms to accommodate any countermeasures (and decoys, etc.). It was oh so successful!

219 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:48:55pm

re: #200 OldLineTexan

Yep. My link got hosed up. Here is the link.

It is also of note that the same flag flies above the range at Knob Creek. those people have some real firepower.

220 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:48:57pm

re: #210 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Holy mackerel, that's bad!

Gentlemen, draw your swordfish.

221 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:48:58pm

re: #191 Racer X

That reminds me that turmeric is also has anti-inflammatory properties. I have some empty gell caps that I can pack with turmeric.

222 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:49:06pm

re: #215 experiencedtraveller

Nice, but it has to be an actual Foghorn Leghorn quote. That's the rules.

223 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:49:24pm

I'm just sitting down to a bowlfull of chuckroast that's simmered in onions, mushrooms, and barley all day. A dollop of sourcream on the side. No wine, but maybe I'll crack out the cognac after.

224 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:49:29pm

re: #220 gclaghorn

Gentlemen, draw your swordfish.

Oh, just kiss my lily white bass!

225 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:49:41pm

re: #216 OldLineTexan


I keep pitching em and you keep missing em.

226 Joan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:49:42pm

re: #138 legalpad

Yes. He creeps me out though.

227 Sunlight  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:49:52pm

re: #179 Killian Bundy

Missile Defense Takes Off

/Peace Through Light baby!

It's the laser mafia at work! Nothing succeeds like success!

228 fiat_lux  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:49:55pm

The late great Carl Sagan was against Ronald Reagan's strategic defense initiative because, he said, " it wouldn't work". This from a man was worked on a spacecraft that could hit a moving target , Mars, land safely and transmit photos of said planet. He was motivated by a leftist ideology that left that over-ruled his scientific knowledge.

229 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:49:55pm

re: #224 SteveC

Oh, just kiss my lily white bass!

Now don't you start ha-wrass-ing me.

230 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:49:59pm

re: #223 Thanos

I'm just sitting down to a bowlfull of chuckroast that's simmered in onions, mushrooms, and barley all day. A dollop of sourcream on the side. No wine, but maybe I'll crack out the cognac after.

do you have enough to share?

231 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:50:26pm

re: #171 Kenneth

Some Dems would love to kill it, but... a good number of the contractors are in Democratic districts. Nobody wants to be seen causing yet more layoff today.

On a related point, earlier this week NATO unanimously approved the deployment of missile defense system in Europe, and the Czech govt approved the installation of missile defense components on their territory. Also, Obama's National Security Adviser Gen. Jim Jones, as a former NATO Commander has lots of contacts in Europe.

This thing is going ahead.

From your lips to God's ears. We need this system.

232 snowcrash  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:50:40pm

re: #221 Killgore Trout
Hot tub and Motrin might work faster.

233 legalpad  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:50:47pm

re: #195 Iron Fist

I didn't know that. One of the things that started that war was the Mexican's trying to disarm the people. They wanted the people to turn in a small cannon. They replied by telling them to go fuck themselves.

Gun shows have them here.

The history.

234 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:50:58pm

re: #218 Sunlight

Oh Puhleez... the test went off without a hitch. It is a development program and I'm sure the next steps will include algorithms to accommodate any countermeasures (and decoys, etc.). It was oh so successful!

See Star Wars will never work, Reagan was a doddering old fool!

/The Swimmer Kennedy.

235 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:51:09pm

re: #223 Thanos

Lucky you! I just had a tasty yet unsatisfying vegetarian dinner my daughter cooked. I am delighted she cooked dinner (but I want meat!)

236 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:51:12pm

re: #183 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Booze ALWAYS helps!

Especially today, the 75th anniversary of the repeal of Prohibition.

237 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:51:19pm

re: #209 Charles

By the way, the Discovery Institute had nothing to do with this success. We do still have a few real rocket scientists left.

Se we can use the phrase, "What, do you think you're a rocket scientist or somethin'"? :)

238 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:51:31pm

re: #230 bellamags

do you have enough to share?

Sure there's a pot full upstairs

239 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:51:45pm

re: #223 Thanos

I'm just sitting down to a bowlfull of chuckroast that's simmered in onions, mushrooms, and barley all day. A dollop of sourcream on the side. No wine, but maybe I'll crack out the cognac after.

Speaking of barley, I need another beer.

240 Sunlight  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:51:52pm

re: #231 Dark_Falcon

From your lips to God's ears. We need this system.

Whoever gets these systems won the lottery. And hopefully they'll add capabilities from allies' research efforts once gen 1 is deployed.

241 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:51:58pm

re: #224 SteveC

Oh, just kiss my lily white bass!

You're not such an angelfish, are you?

242 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:52:06pm

re: #235 Kenneth

Lucky you! I just had a tasty yet unsatisfying vegetarian dinner my daughter cooked. I am delighted she cooked dinner (but I want meat!)


Where's the Beef?

243 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:52:09pm

re: #238 Thanos

Sure there's a pot full upstairs

K. be there in a few. ; )

244 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:52:11pm

re: #190 rightymouse

I was making row covers. They really increase winter yields.

245 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:52:21pm

re: #211 bellamags

fish puns are just anenome to a thread.


Scale back that snark, would ya?

246 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:52:40pm

re: #216 OldLineTexan

Bright as midnight at the bottom of the outhouse.

A few sandwiches shy of a picnic?

247 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:53:12pm

re: #245 rightymouse

Scale back that snark shark, would ya?

There. Fixed it for you.

248 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:53:14pm

re: #225 Kenneth

I keep pitching em and you keep missing em.

That boy is as strong as an ox, and just about as smart.

249 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:53:15pm

re: #201 callahan23

Couldn't America offer this gorgeous piece of tech to Israel.
'Cause they are really in harms way.

We may as well.

/I doubt Obama's going to let us keep it

250 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:53:19pm

Well, I am in some really deep do-do. Bought a 5 POUND TUB of cheeze puffs at the local warehouse store, opened the tub tonight. Glanced down a moment ago and half those puffs are missing!

And why is this cheeze puff dust all over my hand?!?!

251 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:53:32pm

re: #234 JCM

See Star Wars will never work, Reagan was a doddering old fool!

/The Swimmer Kennedy.

re: #209 Charles

By the way, the Discovery Institute had nothing to do with this success. We do still have a few real rocket scientists left.

Owing to the process of Star Wars evolving through the years.

252 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:53:35pm

re: #236 Steffan

Especially today, the 75th anniversary of the repeal of Prohibition.

Cheers!

253 itellu3times  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:54:14pm

re: #218 Sunlight

Oh Puhleez... the test went off without a hitch. It is a development program and I'm sure the next steps will include algorithms to accommodate any countermeasures (and decoys, etc.). It was oh so successful!

But if they wrap the warhead in a burqa, we won't dare hit it with a missile, will we?

255 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:54:48pm

re: #242 HoosierHoops

Where's the Beef?

/Clara Peller off. :)

256 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:54:52pm

re: #245 rightymouse

Scale back that snark, would ya?

just keep beating that drum.

257 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:54:53pm

re: #245 rightymouse

Scale back that snark, would ya?

In this forum all are allowed to carp frealy.

258 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:55:21pm

re: #253 itellu3times

But if they wrap the warhead in a burqa, we won't dare hit it with a missile, will we?

No but if it has glasses on... POW! Right in the kisser!

259 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:55:44pm

re: #233 legalpad

Yep. we saw a lot of that flag in certain circles in 1994, too. Gun owners are a significant chunk of that 25 million people that Weather Underground wants to whack.

I don't think it will be as easy as Ayers et al think it will be.

260 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:55:45pm

re: #257 Thanos

In this forum all are allowed to carp frealy.

I do it just for the halibut.

261 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:55:58pm

re: #244 Killgore Trout

I was making row covers. They really increase winter yields.

For example, KT's vertebrae have yielded.

262 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:56:09pm

re: #196 JCM

I don't care home much you clown, fish puns are not that funny.

celeocanth we all just get along.

263 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:56:20pm

re: #174 gclaghorn

Oh, don't play that old cod again.

yah, it smelt

264 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:56:34pm

re: #250 SteveC

Well, I am in some really deep do-do. Bought a 5 POUND TUB of cheeze puffs at the local warehouse store, opened the tub tonight. Glanced down a moment ago and half those puffs are missing!

And why is this cheeze puff dust all over my hand?!?!

The same thing happens when I open a box of Nilla Wafers ~ half the box goes missing!

265 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:56:36pm

re: #251 solomonpanting

Owing to the process of Star Wars evolving through the years.

Sorry, that's intelligent design.

266 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:56:37pm

re: #235 Kenneth


If God didn't want us to eat meat, He wouldn't have made it taste so good.

267 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:56:54pm

re: #221 Killgore Trout

That reminds me that turmeric is also has anti-inflammatory properties. I have some empty gell caps that I can pack with turmeric.

Boswellia Serrata (Frankincense) is a good anti-inflammatory as well. Takes a while.

Booze and Ibuprofen works fast.

268 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:56:58pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

I do it just for the halibut.

It's too early to jump the shark...err trout.

269 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:57:16pm

re: #261 OldLineTexan

For example, KT's vertebrae have yielded.

Because his inner fish isn't spiny enough.

270 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:57:17pm

re: #244 Killgore Trout

I was making row covers. They really increase winter yields.


I understand. But bamboo? That stuff is tough as nails.

271 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:57:26pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

I do it just for the halibut.

You can be such an eel.

272 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:57:42pm

re: #268 HoosierHoops

It's too early to jump the shark...err trout.

Some of these puns are starting to smell fishy... ;)

273 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:57:43pm

re: #247 gclaghorn

There. Fixed it for you.


lol...

274 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:57:45pm

re: #209 Charles

By the way, the Discovery Institute had nothing to do with this success. We do still have a few real rocket scientists left.

Such a complex and awe-inspiring system is SURELY the result of an intelligent design.

275 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:57:52pm

Supernatural graffiti.....
divine dog door for sale

276 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:58:10pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

I do it just for the halibut.

I was going to have halibut for dinner last night, but it smelt bad, so I threw it away.

277 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:58:15pm

re: #271 Sharmuta

You can be such an eel.

But I'd rather have him inside the tent fishing out, than outside the tent fishing in.

278 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:58:21pm

re: #265 OldLineTexan

Sorry, that's intelligent design.

So then, the two aren't mutually exclusive?

279 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:58:37pm

re: #266 Iron Fist

If God didn't want us to eat meat, He wouldn't have made it taste so good.


Amen, bruthah! Would upding you a gazillion times if I could.

280 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:58:37pm

re: #266 Iron Fist

If God didn't want us to eat meat, He wouldn't have made it taste so good.

Favorite tshirt:

"Meat is murder! And yummy too!"

281 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:58:56pm

OT:
Guess who's coming home.

It will be sooooooooooo smarmy.
He's a god ya know...............

282 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:58:58pm

re: #275 Killgore Trout

Supernatural graffiti.....
divine dog door for sale

That's Jeebus, Jesus' cousin. Not as valuable.

283 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:59:05pm

re: #276 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Talapia tales seem to be the odor of the day

284 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:59:16pm

re: #207 HoosierHoops

Did you catch that move Derrick Rose put on Andre Miller the other night?

285 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:59:45pm

re: #272 gclaghorn

Some of these puns are starting to smell fishy... ;)

It's a whale of a thread if you ask me..

286 arrow75  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 5:59:47pm

re: #201 callahan23

This is a step in the right direction...
[Link: www.defense-update.com...]

287 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:00:00pm

re: #270 rightymouse

When bamboo is freshly cut (I grow my own) it bends fairly easily but I think I over did it by bending 40 or so poles in one morning.

288 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:00:05pm

re: #250 SteveC

Well, I am in some really deep do-do. Bought a 5 POUND TUB of cheeze puffs at the local warehouse store, opened the tub tonight. Glanced down a moment ago and half those puffs are missing!

And why is this cheeze puff dust all over my hand?!?!

cheesy poos

289 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:00:20pm

re: #269 Thanos

Because his inner fish isn't spiny enough.


That's a whale of an assertion.

290 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:00:22pm

re: #285 HoosierHoops

It's a whale of a thread if you ask me..

Don't make me beach this thread!

/

291 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:00:26pm

re: #278 solomonpanting

So then, the two aren't mutually exclusive?

Seriously? God and evolution don't cause me any pain. I am not telling Him what tools He may use.

ID (note the caps) is an ideology that uses lies.

292 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:00:36pm

re: #285 HoosierHoops

It's a whale of a thread if you ask me..

IOW, it's not floundering.

293 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:00:44pm

re: #283 saberry0530

Talapia tales seem to be the odor of the day

You're being koi, what do you mean?

294 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:00:44pm

re: #285 HoosierHoops

It's a whale of a thread if you ask me..

There's a ray of hope it will stop soon.

295 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:00:56pm

re: #290 gclaghorn

Don't make me beach this thread!

/

Hey, don't be so roughy on us!

296 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:00:57pm

re: #193 experiencedtraveller

Dear President Elect Obama,

I think you owe the hard working Americans at Exxonmobil a freakin APOLOGY for the gratuitous slamming of this great American company during your presidential debates.

Exxonmobil gain fully employs 82,000 people. All good jobs.

Exxonmobil provides a crucial commodity at competitive market prices.

Exxonmobil does vast amounts of basic research in many scientific disciplines.

APOLOGIZE, SIR!

They also paid $29 billion in income taxes and $71 billion in "taxes and other duties."

297 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:01:58pm

re: #286 arrow75

This is a step in the right direction...
[Link: www.defense-update.com...]

Looks like it might be what we have based up in Adak. (see the link way upthread)

298 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:01:58pm

re: #267 Racer X

I have Mastic and Benzoin handy. No Frankincense.

299 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:02:34pm

Walleye ought to grab some dinner. See you guys later!

300 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:02:57pm

re: #299 Sharmuta

Walleye ought to grab some dinner. See you guys later!

Sea you later! *snicker*

301 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:03:09pm

re: #209 Charles

By the way, the Discovery Institute had nothing to do with this success. We do still have a few real rocket scientists left.

No thanks to the NEA.

302 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:03:10pm

re: #287 Killgore Trout


Um, you grow your own, um, bamboo, you say. So do you sell your "bamboo" by the pound, or do you go ahead and divvy it up to smaller, retail quantities?

303 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:03:19pm

re: #294 JCM

There's a ray of hope it will stop soon.

That's if someone doesn't pull the trigger first.

304 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:03:29pm

re: #299 Sharmuta

Walleye ought to grab some dinner. See you guys later!

Well, we hope to be herring from you shortly then.

305 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:03:35pm

Cats vs. slide

Can I haz friction?

306 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:03:37pm

re: #292 solomonpanting

IOW, it's not floundering.

Please, can't you buoys and gills get serious?

307 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:03:39pm

re: #299 Sharmuta

Walleye ought to grab some dinner. See you guys later!

Mackeral grab some seconds as well.

308 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:04:00pm

re: #302 Iron Fist

Personal consumption only.

309 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:04:04pm

re: #299 Sharmuta

Walleye ought to grab some dinner. See you guys later!

Cucumbers and sea lettuce?

310 mamashawna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:04:07pm

re: #32 MandyManners

That is the FUNNIEST freakin thing I've seen all day...and my boys liked it too!

311 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:04:34pm

re: #257 Thanos

In this forum all are allowed to carp frealy.

'Frealy'. Is that a mako word?

312 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:05:31pm

So, is there a prize for the first one to incorporate humuhumunukunukuapuaa into a pun?

313 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:05:32pm

re: #267 Racer X

Boswellia Serrata (Frankincense) is a good anti-inflammatory as well. Takes a while.

Booze and Ibuprofen works fast.

Frankincense is one of my favorite oils to use during massage. It has a strong odor, so I cut it with lavender. Very good for stress and "inflammation" for the whole nervous system. Clary sage is also fabulous.

314 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:05:42pm

re: #311 rightymouse

'Frealy'. Is that a mako word?

No, it was said on porpoise!

315 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:05:44pm

re: #305 Killgore Trout

Cats vs. slide

Can I haz friction?

Dog sed fud on top!

316 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:05:48pm

re: #307 Thanos

Mackeral grab some seconds as well.

just perch your yourself and try not to crappie on the carpet.

317 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:05:48pm

Sea Bass? Sea Bass? Is that you?

318 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:06:20pm

re: #250 SteveC

Well, I am in some really deep do-do. Bought a 5 POUND TUB of cheeze puffs at the local warehouse store, opened the tub tonight. Glanced down a moment ago and half those puffs are missing!

And why is this cheeze puff dust all over my hand?!?!

Moths.

The dust on your hands is an attempt to divert your attention.

319 jaunte  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:06:24pm

re: #312 Sarge1984

It's not my plaice to advise a stuttering Hawaiian.

320 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:06:24pm

You clownfish must think you're really funny!

321 Rancher  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:06:27pm

Well this program has to be cut. We need the money to give tax cuts to those who don't pay taxes, pay the big three auto maker's union, and fund the new civil defense force.

322 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:06:46pm

re: #306 Spare O'Lake

Please, can't you buoys and gills get serious?

You are hot to trout tonight spare o' lake. LOL

323 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:06:59pm

re: #312 Sarge1984

So, is there a prize for the first one to incorporate humuhumunukunukuapuaa into a pun?

Jackie Gleason?

324 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:07:11pm

re: #291 OldLineTexan

Seriously? God and evolution don't cause me any pain. I am not telling Him what tools He may use.

ID (note the caps) is an ideology that uses lies.

Forgot my sarc tag......

325 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:07:57pm

Damn, but I'm in love. The only thing that could be better would be the same weapon in 7.62 NATO.

326 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:08:00pm

re: #324 solomonpanting

Got me!

327 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:08:04pm

re: #322 bellamags

You are hot to trout tonight spare o' lake. LOL

must be her good natured sole

328 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:08:07pm

re: #323 OldLineTexan

I was hoping the Foghorn Leghorn quotes would catch on...

329 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:08:27pm

re: #306 Spare O'Lake

Please, can't you buoys and gills get serious?

It's just not Wright I say, it makes me Blue, and while it might be Fin for some of you, it puts a Hump in my Back.

330 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:08:45pm

re: #311 rightymouse

'Frealy'. Is that a mako word?

I borrowed it from salmon I overheard the otter day.

331 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:08:54pm

re: #329 JCM

It's just not Wright I say, it makes me Blue, and while it might be Fin for some of you, it puts a Hump in my Back.

That was just killer.

332 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:09:43pm

re: #330 Thanos

I borrowed it from salmon I overheard the otter day.

You might be taken to school..if you get my shank

333 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:09:47pm

And one that everyone here should know by heart

"You can tune a piano, but you can't tuna fish"

REO Speedwagon 1978

334 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:10:10pm

re: #328 Sarge1984

I was hoping the Foghorn Leghorn quotes would catch on...

We had quite a string of them, before I knew that was the rule. So one of mine was not a F L quote.

335 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:10:27pm

Lizards are coming up with new fish puns like batfish out of Hell.

336 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:10:28pm

re: #331 bellamags

That was just killer.

I heard he killed him with a hammerhead.

337 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:10:36pm

re: #325 Iron Fist

Damn, but I'm in love. The only thing that could be better would be the same weapon in 7.62 NATO.

8mm, where you gonna' find ammo?

338 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:10:42pm

re: #330 Thanos

I borrowed it from salmon I overheard the otter day.

Isn't that hershey? I've got mounds and mounds of law that says that don't work!

339 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:11:23pm

re: #332 HoosierHoops

You might be taken to school..if you get my shank

Shank's for the manatees.

340 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:11:23pm

re: #337 JCM

8mm, where you gonna' find ammo?

It used to be easy. I was buying Portuguese FNM 8mm back in the day for 9 cents a round.

341 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:11:48pm

re: #333 saberry0530

And one that everyone here should know by heart

"You can tune a piano, but you can't tuna fish"

REO Speedwagon 1978

Years ago, my friend tried to quote the title and said, "You can tune a piano but you can't tune a fork". Ok, it was funny at the time. :)

342 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:11:49pm

re: #336 poopeedoo

I heard he killed him with a hammerhead.

will that make him an Angelfish or a Sea devil?

343 mattm  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:12:08pm

The system shooting down a real nuke and saving a major US city from annihilation whould not be enough proof for The 0ne.

344 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:12:24pm

re: #322 bellamags

You are hot to trout tonight spare o' lake. LOL

I'll clam up now.

345 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:12:25pm

re: #330 Thanos

I borrowed it from salmon I overheard the otter day.

Bwhahahahahahahaha!

/You're gupping with me. Right?

346 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:12:26pm

re: #331 bellamags

That was just killer.

That's Orca Dokey with me.

347 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:12:48pm

pun like these will result in someone getting a shiner

348 callahan23  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:13:21pm

re: #286 arrow75

This is a step in the right direction...
[Link: www.defense-update.com...]

Sorry, saw your comment late.
Yesss! That should be a good start. Thanks for the link.
I'm late. Gotta go.
Stay scaly lizards.

349 SteveC  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:13:22pm

re: #339 Thanos

Shank's for the manatees.

That's playing on the stereo system all the time down at the Brest Exam Clinic... Thanks for the Mammaries!

350 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:13:26pm

re: #315 OldLineTexan

lol

351 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:13:48pm

OT:

Has anyone else had problems logging into Yahoo IM tonight?

352 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:13:50pm

re: #341 poopeedoo

Years ago, my friend tried to quote the title and said, "You can tune a piano but you can't tune a fork". Ok, it was funny at the time. :)

You are taking a skate on thin ice... it smelt.

353 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:13:51pm

re: #340 OldLineTexan

It used to be easy. I was buying Portuguese FNM 8mm back in the day for 9 cents a round.

BTW, just found a lot of sources in a quick search. But stay away from the Turkish stuff.

354 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:14:02pm

re: #337 JCM

It's around. If I got the weapon, I'd try to get it converted to 7.62 NATO, though. Even if it cost another $1000, it'd be a good deal. No matter what happens with gun control in the next four years, this puppy is only going to rise in value.

355 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:14:27pm

I've got a buddy who worked on this program at Aerojet, you wouldn't believe how this thing is bandaded together. Hell WFT, it works.

356 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:14:42pm

re: #352 Outrider

You are taking a skate on thin ice... it smelt.

Hoof Hearted
Ice Melted
Say it 3 times real fast.

357 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:15:04pm

re: #343 mattm

That just wouldn't be fair. I'd say that the donks are more worried that it will succeed.

358 bellamags  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:15:20pm

I am going to have to leave this ocean of fun. See ya'll later

359 JacksonTn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:15:26pm

Good Evening Lizards ...

Is this the FNDT? Not drinking but I think I get a memory high when I listen to this song ...somebody posted a Steve Winwood song the other night ...this is my favorite when he was with Traffic ...

Low Spark ...

Youtube Video

360 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:16:06pm

re: #356 VegasRick

Hoof Hearted
Ice Melted
Say it 3 times real fast.

great. now the wife thinks I'm loony toons. ;-)>

361 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:16:32pm

re: #358 bellamags

I am going to have to leave this ocean of fun. See ya'll later

I need to sail off as well... Later lizards, better feed the family before they get crabby! :)

362 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:16:32pm

re: #359 JacksonTn

Good Evening Lizards ...

Is this the FNDT? Not drinking but I think I get a memory high when I listen to this song ...somebody posted a Steve Winwood song the other night ...this is my favorite when he was with Traffic ...

Low Spark ...

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Saw him at Claptons Concert in Chicago in 2007..Pure friggin genios

363 fiat_lux  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:17:00pm

re: #11 Noam Sayin'

Thank you is the American way of war.

364 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:17:16pm

re: #360 Outrider

great. now the wife thinks I'm loony toons. ;-)>

Sorry.

365 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:17:19pm

Despite earlier furor, Palin's shopping continued

Despite the furor over a $150,000 campaign shopping spree for vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin, it appears the Republican party continued to spend money on clothing and accessories for her in the contest's final weeks.

New campaign reports show the latest buys ranged from $4,383 at Saks Fifth Avenue and $2,130 at Nieman Marcus, to $148 at Victoria's Secret locations in Philadelphia and Cincinnati

/geez, the election's been over for how long?

366 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:17:40pm

re: #354 Iron Fist

It's around. If I got the weapon, I'd try to get it converted to 7.62 NATO, though. Even if it cost another $1000, it'd be a good deal. No matter what happens with gun control in the next four years, this puppy is only going to rise in value.

I can see that, 8mm isn't something I've seen often at shops or shows.

367 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:17:45pm

Gun-nut segment, combined with a fish pun segment. This kind of shad can tentacle the herd of wannabe lizards.

368 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:17:47pm

re: #364 VegasRick

Sorry.

eh. nothing new lol

369 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:17:57pm

re: #328 Sarge1984

"You look like two miles of bad road"

370 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:18:14pm

re: #365 Killian Bundy

Dang. Only $148 at Victoria's Secret.

371 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:18:17pm

re: #341 poopeedoo

Years ago, my friend tried to quote the title and said, "You can tune a piano but you can't tune a fork". Ok, it was funny at the time. :)

Must have been an alcohol or chemical induced laughter.

372 Jimmah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:18:20pm

Warning - contents may offend sensitive viewers:

Can I haz furry sandwich?

373 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:18:54pm

re: #371 saberry0530

Must have been an alcohol or chemical induced laughter.

There was a tuning fork on the cover, ya know. :)

374 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:19:15pm

re: #351 gop_patriot

OT:

Has anyone else had problems logging into Yahoo IM tonight?

Shoot your yahoo!

375 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:19:29pm

re: #355 turn

Oberth, go google that. Father is credited with the advent of modern rocketry. His GF was the first man to predict geocentric orbit.

376 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:19:38pm

re: #365 Killian Bundy

Despite earlier furor, Palin's shopping continued

/geez, the election's been over for how long?

The MSM and libs are scare absolutely shitless by Palin. She's their worst nightmare. They'll be pounding stakes into her for 4 years.

377 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:19:41pm

re: #359 JacksonTn

Good Evening Lizards ...

Is this the FNDT? Not drinking but I think I get a memory high when I listen to this song ...somebody posted a Steve Winwood song the other night ...this is my favorite when he was with Traffic ...

Low Spark ...

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

LOVE that song!

378 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:19:52pm

re: #367 Noam Sayin'

Gun-nut segment, combined with a fish pun segment. This kind of shad can tentacle the herd of wannabe lizards.

not herd....... grouper

379 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:20:06pm

Getting back on topic a minute: the major reasons Russia doesn't like this is that it tightens our alliances in Europe, and it takes away the threat of a "snapshot".

What's a snapshot? Single tactical use of one ICBM against a defensive front. With a single shot, telegraphed shortly ahead of time via a hotline there would be a lot of condemnation and crap to come, but a nuclear response would be unlikely. It's one of the bully sticks Russia has against East Europe and we are taking it out of the pile of threats.

380 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:20:45pm

re: #369 Kenneth

That boy's strong as an ox, and just about as smart.

381 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:21:26pm

re: #365 Killian Bundy

Despite earlier furor, Palin's shopping continued


/geez, the election's been over for how long?

Don't sweat it, be happy. It means she's still a force to be reckoned with, and the left doesn't just fear her, they Ph3aR! her.

382 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:21:53pm

re: #365 Killian Bundy

Despite earlier furor, Palin's shopping continued


/geez, the election's been over for how long?


Barry raises and spends close to what now? A billion dollars? And the libs are hyperventilating over Palin's paltry clothing bill?

Gah...

383 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:21:54pm
384 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:22:03pm

Am I the only one drinking here? *hic*

385 Colonel Panik  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:22:04pm

Speaking of the Czech Republic, and President Bush, and weapons systems, the Czech Prime Minister and the Ceske Zbrojovka company just gave President Bush a really nice retirement present.

A custom engraved CZ550 rifle in .308 Winchester.

The odd thing is, I just bought the same rifle, in the same caliber at about the same time as this one was being presented to President Bush. Mine doesn't have all the fancy engraving on it like Dubya's though...

386 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:22:24pm

re: #379 Thanos

Getting back on topic a minute: the major reasons Russia doesn't like this is that it tightens our alliances in Europe, and it takes away the threat of a "snapshot".

What's a snapshot? Single tactical use of one ICBM against a defensive front. With a single shot, telegraphed shortly ahead of time via a hotline there would be a lot of condemnation and crap to come, but a nuclear response would be unlikely. It's one of the bully sticks Russia has against East Europe and we are taking it out of the pile of threats.

What does that mean?

387 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:22:25pm

re: #380 Sarge1984

That boy's strong as an ox, and just about as smart.


This boy's more mixed up than a feather in a whirlwind

388 jamgarr  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:22:36pm

And the man in the suit
Has just bailed a new car
With the profit he failed to make clean

389 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:22:55pm

re: #380 Sarge1984


Gal reminds me of the highway between Forth Worth and Dallas - no curves.

390 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:23:40pm

re: #384 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Oh hell no, el-tee. It's Right Arm Night, you know.

391 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:23:46pm

re: #366 JCM

I've got a couple of huundred rounds of it laying around. My grandfather had a Mauser in that caliber. My big problem with it would be that all the ammo you are likely to find will have corrosive primers.

I like the MG-42/MG-3. This one is from a Yugoslav parts kit. Yugoslavia made some of the best AK-47/RPKs in the whole East block. This one is currently at about what a parts kit would run you.

392 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:23:59pm

re: #378 Outrider

Nice one. And I was proud of myself for getting a two-fer.

Now I'm going to filet crappie albacore it all night.

393 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:24:03pm

re: #389 Kenneth

Gal reminds me of the highway between Forth Worth and Dallas - no curves.


Nice girl, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice

394 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:24:08pm

re: #383 taxfreekiller

Is this the dialog the world hopes the O will start TFK?

395 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:24:26pm

re: #390 Sarge1984

Oh hell no, el-tee. It's Right Arm Night, you know.

Glad to hear it, Sarge!

396 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:24:27pm

re: #384 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Am I the only one drinking here? *hic*

What does here taste like?

397 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:24:43pm

re: #387 Outrider

re: #389 Kenneth

Just for full disclosure, I had to google them, too.

398 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:24:59pm

re: #384 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Am I the only one drinking here? *hic*

o, I meant no

399 Jimmah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:25:12pm

re: #384 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Am I the only one drinking here? *hic*

Nope!

400 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:25:17pm

re: #396 MandyManners

What does here taste like?

Like the opposite of there.

401 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:25:35pm

re: #396 MandyManners

What does here taste like?

*Whack!*

402 fiat_lux  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:25:39pm

re: #377 VegasRick

I bought it when I was 18. Thank you for the link. The LP"Shoot out at the Fantasy Factory" I bought in 8 track which was, well, never mind.

403 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:25:57pm

re: #382 rightymouse

If you get down to brass tacks, I think you could get a Court to simply take judicial notice of the fact that Democrats are hypocrits. It's not like they really take any pains to conceal it.

404 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:25:59pm

Heads up....

New trojan targets Firefox, masquerades as Greasemonkey

405 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:26:04pm

re: #386 MandyManners


Nuclear sucker punch. Say Russia is really angry at Ukraine. They get a missile ready, call Washington and say, "don't worry, it's not for you" then launch a quick one at Ukraine's military headquarters. By the time the President has time to say "WTF are you doing!?" the deed is doen and the Russians got what they want.

406 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:26:14pm

re: #396 MandyManners

What does here taste like?

Tastes like chicken, just like everything else!

407 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:26:38pm

re: #396 MandyManners

What does here taste like?

There, only a little more tang.

408 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:26:53pm

Evening mates! What's up?

409 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:26:57pm

re: #406 VegasRick

Rattlesnake, ummmm

410 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:26:57pm

re: #407 saberry0530

There, only a little more tang.

GMTA!

411 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:27:08pm

Meanwhile in WA State the saga continues....

Anti-Religion Sign Returned To State Capitol

The controversial anti-religion sign that was mysteriously removed from state Capitol Rotunda has been returned to its place in Olympia after it was turned in to a Seattle radio station.
The sign was at the Capitol at 6:15 a.m. Friday, but by 7:30 a.m., it had disappeared, the Capitol building manager told the Olympian.
Later Friday morning, the receptionist at the country radio station KMPS in Seattle said the sign was turned in to the station by a man who said, "this is for Ichabod," and handed her the sign. Ichabod Caine is a show host at the radio station.
412 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:27:31pm

re: #408 loflyer

Evening mates! What's up?

The sky!

Teeheehee...

413 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:27:37pm

re: #408 loflyer

Evening mates! What's up?

Arrgh... pull up a mug, matey, and catch your fill of grog.

414 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:27:45pm

re: #401 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

*Whack!*

LOL!

415 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:27:58pm

re: #382 rightymouse

Barry raises and spends close to what now? A billion dollars? And the libs are hyperventilating over Palin's paltry clothing bill?/blockquote>

/but, but, he spent his money on important stuff like pillars and a seal!

416 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:28:03pm

re: #397 Sarge1984

Now cut that out boy, or I'll spank you where the feathers are thinnest

(me too)

417 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:28:12pm

re: #396 MandyManners

What was that line from "When Harry Met Sally"?

...kind of like me, fruity, but with a bold finish...?

418 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:28:20pm

re: #409 turn

Rattlesnake, ummmm

Do you dip in ranch dressing?

419 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:28:23pm

re: #405 Kenneth

That's what we should have done to Afghanistan post-9-11. Everyone would have just hunkered down and hoped that we'd be done soon.

420 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:28:30pm

re: #392 Noam Sayin'

Nice one. And I was proud of myself for getting a two-fer.

Now I'm going to filet crappie albacore it all night.

Well, just for the halibut, I thought I cod perch here. then I thought... what the eel; I'd just be a sucker.

421 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:28:49pm

re: #386 MandyManners

What does that mean?

Let's say one of their neighbors and they got belligerent, and troops went to the front. Maybe Russia invades Georgia, or whatever. If the Russian forces were successfully repelled they could use a nuke as a "defensive" measure. One nuke fired during a war would probably not initiate WWIII nuclear fashion. Remember there's a precedent for limited use of Nukes in wartime, we set it.

No matter how big a conventional force the Eastern Euros gather they couldn't stand against that.

422 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:28:55pm

re: #385 Colonel Panik

It's good to be the Prez.

423 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:29:16pm

re: #416 Kenneth

Did you find the one with the .wav files?

424 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:29:48pm

re: #405 Kenneth

Nuclear sucker punch. Say Russia is really angry at Ukraine. They get a missile ready, call Washington and say, "don't worry, it's not for you" then launch a quick one at Ukraine's military headquarters. By the time the President has time to say "WTF are you doing!?" the deed is doen and the Russians got what they want.

CBBHO would cave.

425 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:30:03pm

re: #374 MandyManners

Shoot your yahoo!

Apparently that's the only option left. BRB.

/gah

426 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:30:04pm

re: #416 Kenneth

Now cut that out boy, or I'll spank you where the feathers are thinnest

(me too)


Looks like the boy genius is tryin' to show me up

427 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:30:06pm

re: #419 Iron Fist

That's what we should have done to Afghanistan a lot of places! post-9-11. Everyone would have just hunkered down and hoped that we'd be done soon.

428 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:30:24pm

re: #406 VegasRick

Tastes like chicken, just like everything else!

Does alligator?

429 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:30:28pm

re: #418 VegasRick

Do you dip in ranch dressing?

Been a while, right now would probably dip it in my Keystone Light. Ha

What's happening in Vegas, Rick?

430 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:30:39pm

re: #424 MandyManners

CBBHO would cave.

How could you tell?

I mean, he'd have to come out from under the desk in the Oval Office to let us know he did.

431 Jimmah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:30:52pm

re: #396 MandyManners

In my case, 'here' tastes like Glenfiddich single malt whisky, coca-cola, sprinkles, a tablespoon of ice-cream, and a straw. In one large glass.

432 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:30:55pm

re: #407 saberry0530

There, only a little more tang.

As in, orange juice from NASA?

433 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:31:03pm

At the risk of creating a big roe, is this the fin?

434 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:31:21pm

re: #406 VegasRick

Tastes like chicken, just like everything else!

Then what does chicken taste like?

435 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:31:28pm

Oh, hai...

436 legalpad  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:31:31pm

re: #385 Colonel Panik

Speaking of the Czech Republic, and President Bush, and weapons systems, the Czech Prime Minister and the Ceske Zbrojovka company just gave President Bush a really nice retirement present.

A custom engraved CZ550 rifle in .308 Winchester.

The odd thing is, I just bought the same rifle, in the same caliber at about the same time as this one was being presented to President Bush. Mine doesn't have all the fancy engraving on it like Dubya's though...

That makes me want to be president -

437 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:31:41pm

re: #417 Sarge1984

What was that line from "When Harry Met Sally"?

...kind of like me, fruity, but with a bold finish...?

A drink at a gay bar?

438 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:31:46pm

re: #429 turn

Been a while, right now would probably dip it in my Keystone Light. Ha

What's happening in Vegas, Rick?

By local law I am not allowed to tell you.

439 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:32:03pm

Remember that the bear is paranoid, and what I outlined are the things it's thinking of when it says that "missile defense is a threat to them".

440 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:32:04pm

re: #431 Jimmah

In my case, 'here' tastes like Glenfiddich single malt whisky, coca-cola, sprinkles, a tablespoon of ice-cream, and a straw. In one large glass.

That would send me into a sugar coma! LOL

441 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:32:15pm

re: #424 MandyManners

CBBHO would cave.

Nuking Ukraine, Vlad? Fine, can I finish my waffle now?

442 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:32:32pm

re: #421 Thanos

Let's say one of their neighbors and they got belligerent, and troops went to the front. Maybe Russia invades Georgia, or whatever. If the Russian forces were successfully repelled they could use a nuke as a "defensive" measure. One nuke fired during a war would probably not initiate WWIII nuclear fashion. Remember there's a precedent for limited use of Nukes in wartime, we set it.

No matter how big a conventional force the Eastern Euros gather they couldn't stand against that.

But, we weren't the aggressors so the precedent doesn't exist.

443 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:32:33pm

re: #433 solomonpanting

At the risk of creating a big roe, is this the fin?

Fin, spin, grin, sin, who cares?

Can't believe the market went up with the bad employment into.

444 Jimmah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:32:35pm

re: #435 Sharmuta

LOL.

445 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:32:36pm

re: #405 Kenneth

Nuclear sucker punch. Say Russia is really angry at Ukraine. They get a missile ready, call Washington and say, "don't worry, it's not for you" then launch a quick one at Ukraine's military headquarters. By the time the President has time to say "WTF are you doing!?" the deed is doen and the Russians got what they want.

Here is an interesting series of excerpts from Strategy Page on the Poland ABM and European natural gas supplier issues with Russia.
"Russia is making a lot of noise about the U.S. anti-missile systems being installed in Poland and the Czech Republic. Russia believes the anti-missile systems are meant to negate Russia's nuclear weapons (the only really effective military weapon Russia has left). East European countries are fine with that, but the main purpose of the anti-missile system is to knock down the handful of ballistic missiles Iran might be able to fire at Europe in the near future. Nevertheless, Russia sees the anti-missile system as a threat, and has made a series of announcements about new ICBMs being developed that will negate the anti-missile system. In fact, Russia has not been able to develop a new ICBM design, to replace it's "heavy" Cold War era ICBMs (the SS-18 and SS-19). All it really has is the Topol-M (SS-27 in NATO parlance), which was developed at the end of the Cold War. The Topol-M was modified to serve as a new sea launched ICBM (Bulava) and as a heavy ICBM (RS-24) to replace the elderly SS-18s and SS-19s. There is no money for a major new ICBM development program, but Russia can afford to create some scary press releases."
and
"November 23, 2008: Natural gas is again being used as a diplomatic weapon. Two years ago, Ukraine was paying bargain rates ($130 per thousand cubic meters, which is equivalent to $74 per barrel of oil, a price that is nearly half what natural gas went for on the world market). After much diplomatic pushing and shoving, Russia raised the price to $179.50. Now Russia wants to boost the price to $400, and also collect $2.4 billion in unpaid (and disputed) gas bills. Ukraine complains that Russia is demanding higher prices from them than Western Europeans pay. There, the price of natural gas is based on the price of oil. That price has declined over 60 percent this year. At most, Ukraine was expecting to pay $250 per thousand cubic meters of natural gas in 2009. These negotiations make Western Europe nervous, because there were threats of interrupting supplies of Russian gas to Western Europe. Russia can't stop gas shipments to Ukraine without cutting off supplies for Western Europe. Such interruptions were a major issue when Russia first proposed selling natural gas to Western Europe. Russia promised that the gas supply would never become a political issue. Now it is, and West Europe's traditional distrust of Russia is revived. Western Europe is paralyzed by fear of losing a quarter of its natural gas supplies. Two years ago, when Russia cut Ukraine off, the Ukrainians simply diverted gas meant for Western European customers. "

/I trusted the deposed Soviets a lot more than the Russians, mates!

446 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:32:44pm

re: #423 Sarge1984

yup!

447 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:32:49pm

re: #435 Sharmuta

Oh, hai...

LOL! This one is my personal favorite.

448 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:32:50pm

re: #432 MandyManners

As in, orange juice from NASA?

Lord that stuff tasted like crap. I remember adding all kinds of sugar to it when I was a kid so I could drink it and be like the astronauts.

/they didn't pay those guys enough to drink it.

449 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:32:57pm

re: #428 MandyManners

Does alligator?

I tried to eat octopus once but I wasn't sure which legs to spread.

450 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:33:02pm

re: #431 Jimmah

In my case, 'here' tastes like Glenfiddich single malt whisky, coca-cola, sprinkles, a tablespoon of ice-cream, and a straw. In one large glass.

you drink this? ;-)>

451 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:33:18pm

re: #396 MandyManners

What does here taste like?

Corny. lol.

452 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:33:20pm

re: #430 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

How could you tell?

I mean, he'd have to come out from under the desk in the Oval Office to let us know he did.

Eastern Europe is screwed.

453 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:33:20pm

re: #370 Sarge1984

Dang. Only $148 at Victoria's Secret.

I know. That's not enough for anything really small and fragile there.

454 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:33:20pm

re: #432 MandyManners

As in, orange juice from NASA?

As in faux OJ from NASA? No, not quite what I was thinking, implying or inferring.

/Is self *whacking* a bad thing?

455 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:33:31pm

re: #404 Killgore Trout

Glad I don't install any of the Firefox add-ons.

456 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:33:38pm

re: #438 VegasRick

By local law I am not allowed to tell you.

How much are hookers these days, or is that opposed to local law too?

/

457 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:33:38pm

re: #437 MandyManners

Dang. Left myself open for that, huh?

458 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:33:45pm

re: #431 Jimmah

In my case, 'here' tastes like Glenfiddich single malt whisky, coca-cola, sprinkles, a tablespoon of ice-cream, and a straw. In one large glass.

Poor Glenfiddich.

459 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:34:14pm

re: #443 turn

info you dumb shit

460 jorline  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:34:19pm
Here’s a great post at Closing Velocity on today’s successful test of the Ground-Based Interceptor missile defense system.

Chalk one up for the good guys.

Major Kong would be proud.

461 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:34:51pm

The Ladies Room

462 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:34:55pm

re: #403 Iron Fist

If you get down to brass tacks, I think you could get a Court to simply take judicial notice of the fact that Democrats are hypocrits. It's not like they really take any pains to conceal it.

Boy, howdy! You ain't just whistling Dixie. One of my Dem friends has gone about face regarding the Clintons. Despised Hillary. Lukewarm on Billy. Oh, but NOW they are going to help Obama. And that's a GOOD thing, dontcha know?

And every other email lately has resulted in a personal attack on me for DARING to question "O" and his decisions. Can't debate substance, so may as well insult/attack personally. That's their modus operandi.

So, today, I have put him on ignore regarding politics.

463 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:35:09pm

re: #442 MandyManners

But, we weren't the aggressors so the precedent doesn't exist.

I agree, but Russia and their friends wouldn't. The point is that the bear is paranoid, several of it's plans and Euro engagement scenarios probably involve limited use of nukes. You can bet money on it. Missile defense takes "limited nuclear" away as an effective theater plan. (There's always artillery Vlad Putin...)

464 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:35:11pm

re: #452 MandyManners

Eastern Europe is screwed.

The MSM will report it as a good thing... helps global warming, kills ManBearPig or something.

465 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:35:12pm

re: #443 turn

Fin, spin, grin, sin, who cares?

Can't believe the market went up with the bad employment into.

A little foresight would have been helpful on this pick.

466 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:35:15pm

re: #449 VegasRick

I tried to eat octopus once but I wasn't sure which legs to spread.

haha, try the ones that wrap their arms around you

467 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:35:33pm

re: #449 VegasRick

I tried to eat octopus once but I wasn't sure which legs to spread.

*whack*

/lol

468 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:35:35pm

re: #449 VegasRick

I tried to eat octopus once but I wasn't sure which legs to spread.

Any two and dive towards the middle

469 JacksonTn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:35:56pm

re: #428 MandyManners

Does alligator?

Alligator Sauce Piquante ...yum yum ...gator is kinda like chicken but more chewy and a little fishy but in a "sos pee kant" delicious!

470 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:37:02pm

What Obama, Pelosi and Reid don't want you to know: the November job loss numbers are a lot worse than what was announced. I wonder why?

Well, the econ indicators don’t point to anything good. The Institute for Supply Management’s Manufacturing (36.2%) and Non-Manufacturing (37.3%) Indices point to an economy, and thus a job market, that’s in the tank. Index readings above 50% mean expansion, and below 50% mean contraction. A reading below about 42% in each case indicates recession. This POR (Pelosi-Obama-Reid) Economy we’ve been living in since June, and which was called by yours truly in early July, is something else, isn’t it?

It gets worse:

Nancy, Barry, and Harry must be so proud. It’s simply amazing what promising to choke off a country’s energy supplies (all three of them did so in June), promising to radically raise taxes (Obama did, and the others have been on board, for at least 18 months before the presidential election), and having a decades-in-the-making wreck of the housing and mortgage-lending industries come to a head (a Democratic Party group effort going back to the late 1970s) can do.

Never forget this: They broke it.

Now let’s see if they can fix it.

“Funny” thing: They can’t, and they know they can’t, without backing off many of the very things they promised to do. It’s already in progress: Obama’s punitive tax increases on the top 5% are being deferred, and Obama has dropped the windfall profits tax on “evil” oil companies that sent his crowds into spasms of applause during the campaign.

Go read the whole thing. The tables he posted are horrifying.

The decay in January through June averaged 183,000. In September and October, as the likelihood of “something” happening become more possible, it went to 423,000 and 402,000. Then the wheels came off in November. Instead of the +313,000 that took place last year, employers actually shed 634,000 jobs — an ugly, stunning wrong-way swing of 947,000 jobs.

Gee, I wonder what “something” took place in November to cause this?

What, indeed?

471 JacksonTn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:37:11pm

re: #435 Sharmuta

Oh, hai...

Every animal I ever own eats and tears up paper ...especially toilet paper ...I love them anyway ...

472 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:37:14pm

re: #445 loflyer

good link!

473 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:37:25pm

re: #442 MandyManners

Actually, during the '80s one of our potential warfighting strategies would have been to use tactical nuclear weapons in Eastern Europe to give us time to stabilize that front. We never have had a "no first use" policy on nukes.

And the Russian tanks outnumbered us around ten to one. A "no first use" policy would have made conventional more likely. And no matter what our stated policy was (or the Russian's for that matter) nukes would have been very much on the table if we'd had a big dust-up in Eastern Europe.

474 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:37:36pm

AWWWWWWWWWWWW!

475 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:37:55pm

re: #458 MandyManners

Poor Glenfiddich.

t think them poor malts sacrificed themselves for that. lol ;-)>

476 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:38:13pm

re: #434 gclaghorn

Then what does chicken taste like?

DINOSAUR!

477 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:38:17pm

re: #474 Sharmuta

AWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Cen I brengs mai teddy?

478 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:38:52pm

re: #456 turn

How much are hookers these days, or is that opposed to local law too?

/

Believe it or not, there was an article in our local paper talking about how bad the economy has hit the legal brothels in NV and one of the quotes from one of the girls was "folks just aren't buying the more expensive items on the menu". It also said they are giving away free gas cards to paying customers.

479 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:39:15pm

re: #465 solomonpanting

A little foresight would have been helpful on this pick.

52 week 4-92, ouch!

This connection really sucks right now. Took about a min to load.

480 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:39:20pm

re: #415 Killian Bundy


/but, but, he spent his money on important stuff like pillars and a seal!

But..but...it wasn't girly stuff like Palin bought so it doesn't count.

/

481 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:39:46pm

re: #465 solomonpanting

A little foresight would have been helpful on this pick.

At $5 a share two weeks ago, they didn't have much lower to go. What more did you want?

Killian, did you jump on that?

482 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:40:22pm

re: #480 rightymouse

And if it was girly stuff like Palin bought...well, let's just leave it at that.

483 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:40:34pm

re: #462 rightymouse


Yeah, I don't have any friends on the Left side of the aisle. It just wouldn't end well.

484 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:40:49pm

re: #475 Outrider

t think them poor malts sacrificed themselves for that. lol ;-)>

So that's a single malt, then?

/

485 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:40:55pm
486 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:41:01pm

re: #469 JacksonTn

Alligator Sauce Piquante ...yum yum ...gator is kinda like chicken but more chewy and a little fishy but in a "sos pee kant" delicious!


hey, what is in a sos pee kant? And please don't tell my urin!

487 Colonel Panik  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:41:08pm

Speaking of LOLcats and single malt whiskey...

488 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:41:43pm

re: #479 turn

re: #481 Noam Sayin'

I was more focused on today's change: Up over 102%.

489 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:41:50pm

re: #384 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Am I the only one drinking here? *hic*

Not even close, LT. (heh)

Drunk last night
Drunk the night before
Gonna get drunk tonight
Like I never got drunk before
For when I'm drunk, I'm happy as can be
For I am a member of the Soused family
The Soused family is the best family
That ever came over from old Germany
Singing glorious! Glorious!
One keg of beer for the four of us!
Oh glory be to G-d there are no more of us
For one of us could drink it all alone!

490 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:42:10pm

re: #474 Sharmuta

AWWWWWWWWWWWW!

When're ya gonna stop kitten around?

491 Jimmah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:42:20pm

re: #458 MandyManners

Poor Glenfiddich.

I'm a blasphemer, I know ;)

492 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:42:20pm

True Faith

493 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:42:24pm

re: #484 OldLineTexan

So that's a single malt, then?

/

not my fault that particular malt can't find a date. ;-)>

494 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:42:47pm

re: #487 Colonel Panik

Speaking of LOLcats and single malt whiskey...

Why you gotz to be like that?

495 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:43:07pm

A Marxist speaks on Obama.

Obama is a very strategic thinker. He knew precisely what it would take to get elected and didn't blow it. He used community organizing methods to mobilize a base consisting of many people who had never voted before or who regularly don't vote. Few other candidates in my lifetime have taken this road, which is contrary to conventional political wisdom. (Paul Wellstone was a wonderful exception to the rule.) But he also knew that what he said had to basically play to the center to not be run over by the press, the Republicans, scare centrist and cross-over voters away. He made it.

[snip]

And I agree with this strategy. Anything else will court sure defeat. Move on the stuff you can to a small but significant extent, gain support and confidence. Leave the military alone because they're way too powerful. For now, until enough momentum is raised. By the second or third year of this recession, when stimulus is needed at the bottom, people may begin to discuss cutting the military budget if security is being increased through diplomacy and application of nascent international law.

[snip]

Our job now is to organize both inside and outside the Demo party. There's already a big battle in the Demo party at every level. Here in the New Mexico State Legislature, the progressives are challenging the conservative Dems for leadership; the same is true in Congress. If you can't stand to work in the party, work on putting mass pressure on issues such as healthcare and jobs and the war from outside.


Mark William Rudd As the war escalated, Mark Rudd worked with other youth movement leaders to take SDS in a more militant direction. Together, they formed a radical, violence-oriented organization, referring to themselves collectively as "Weatherman."

496 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:43:14pm

re: #472 Kenneth

good link!

Way too late for the thread mate! I think we are into the FNDT and why not? I have had a long week and it was not as productive as I had hoped. I suspect taking off yesterday for my birthday was a bad idea and probably want do it again in the future. But it sure was fun!

497 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:43:31pm

re: #441 Kenneth

Nuking Ukraine, Vlad? Fine, can I finish my waffle now?

He'd probably order Chicken Kiev that night.

498 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:43:35pm

re: #480 rightymouse

But..but...it wasn't girly stuff like Palin bought so it doesn't count.

/


The dems are friggin foaming at the mouth that Champlis got elected, not possible without Palin's endorsement.

499 Jimmah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:43:37pm

re: #450 Outrider

you drink this? ;-)>

It's awesome! I should really gve it a name.

500 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:43:53pm

re: #449 VegasRick

I tried to eat octopus once but I wasn't sure which legs to spread.


Oh. My. Gawd.

That was truly cephalopodic.

Bad, bad, VR.

Tsk...tsk..

501 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:43:58pm

re: #488 solomonpanting

re: #481 Noam Sayin'

I was more focused on today's change: Up over 102%.

Cool!

502 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:44:44pm

Outta' smokes. bbiab

503 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:44:57pm

re: #482 Sarge1984

And if it was girly stuff like Palin bought...well, let's just leave it at that.


I hear ya.

504 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:45:00pm

re: #490 Spare O'Lake

When're ya gonna stop kitten around?

I don't a-mews you?

505 sngnsgt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:45:19pm

*spit* Code Pink witch on H&C.

506 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:45:58pm

Was just informed by the son and DIL that I'm going to be a PAPAW again. Sometime in Late May, early June.

507 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:46:06pm

re: #502 MandyManners

Outta' smokes. bbiab

Mandy, you got to start chewing ... cigs are bad

508 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:46:08pm

re: #505 sngnsgt

*spit* Code Pink witch on H&C.

Relax. Could be a Boob not Bombs hulkette.

509 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:46:20pm

re: #505 sngnsgt

*spit* Code Pink witch on H&C.

Well you can good bye to Colmes!

510 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:46:31pm

re: #506 saberry0530

Was just informed by the son and DIL that I'm going to be a PAPAW again. Sometime in Late May, early June.

Congrats!

511 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:46:43pm

re: #483 Iron Fist

Yeah, I don't have any friends on the Left side of the aisle. It just wouldn't end well.


I have a number of them. This is the only one who ever wants to talk politics. But he can't handle it very well.

512 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:46:57pm

re: #506 saberry0530

Was just informed by the son and DIL that I'm going to be a PAPAW again. Sometime in Late May, early June.

Congrats mate!

513 LEGION  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:47:09pm

re: #505 sngnsgt

Ahhh, watching last Stargate Atlantis shows- screw code pink.

514 Jimmah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:47:11pm

Quality humour - Harry Enfield at the Polish cafe...

515 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:47:18pm

re: #496 loflyer


Hey Lo, you from down under?

516 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:47:20pm

re: #506 saberry0530

Was just informed by the son and DIL that I'm going to be a PAPAW again. Sometime in Late May, early June.

Congrats!

517 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:47:25pm
518 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:47:37pm

re: #505 sngnsgt

*spit* Code Pink witch on H&C.

Now, now, you shouldn't call Colmes a witch...

/

;)

519 JacksonTn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:47:46pm

re: #486 turn

hey, what is in a sos pee kant? And please don't tell my urin!

It is the way you say Piquante in Louisiana ...Piquante means "to prick" ...

Some may pronounce it ..

[pee-KAHNT] A spicy brown sauce made with shallots, white wine, vinegar, gherkins, parsley and various herbs and seasonings. It's served with sliced meats such as pork, tongue and beef ... and GATOR

520 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:47:50pm

OT - Someone was asking about new vehicles a day or two back ... here's one - 100 mpg

[Link: www.aptera.com...]

521 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:47:53pm

re: #481 Noam Sayin'

Killian, did you jump on that?

That's a truly ugly stock.

/not even on any of my numerous watch lists

522 CIA Reject  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:48:06pm

re: #506 saberry0530

Was just informed by the son and DIL that I'm going to be a PAPAW again. Sometime in Late May, early June.

Congratulations and G*d bless!

523 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:48:09pm

re: #499 Jimmah

It's awesome! I should really gve it a name.


Glenfiddich single malt whisky, coca-cola, sprinkles, a tablespoon of ice-cream, and a straw. In one large glass.

Hmmm. A whisky float? ;-)>

524 sngnsgt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:48:15pm

re: #508 OldLineTexan

Relax. Could be a Boob not Bombs hulkette.

Eww!

/mind bleach!

525 Colonel Panik  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:48:17pm

My favorite line from the movie "Local Hero"

The Ferness inn keeper and Macintyre the texas oil company executive are sampling the single malts in the hotel's bar.

Inn keeper Gordon Urquhart: "This one is an 18 year old."
Macintyre: "Old enough to be out on its own then!"

526 LEGION  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:48:29pm

re: #517 taxfreekiller

#470

200,000 or so a month illegal immigrants help a lot too

15 to 20 million inside the U.S. this moment and Obama
Reid, Nancy, McCain, Shummer, Kennedy, etal are all
lusting to hand out amnesty.

Americans you are the new Apache.

Its not that much fun.

GERONIMO!

527 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:49:26pm

re: #515 turn

Hey Lo, you from down under?

Heck no mate, I got into the "talk like a pirate" thing. If it bugs you I can tone it down. As this is the FNDT I see little harm in it! (live in Atlanta, GA)

528 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:49:43pm

re: #498 turn

The dems are friggin foaming at the mouth that Champlis got elected, not possible without Palin's endorsement.

And I can't wait for Al Franken to slink off into the sunset with a pacifier stuck in his mouth. What a baby. If a Rep behaved like him, the press would be all over him and rightly so.

529 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:49:47pm

re: #495 JCM

We need to wake up and understand that the fucking Democrats are the fuckin' enemy. In a lot of ways, the Left is more dangerous than the Jihadis. The Jihadis can't win without the Western Left. The War in Iraq wouldn't have lasted as long as it did without the moral/propaganda support of Democrats like Dick Durbin (D-al Qaeda), Ted Kennedy, and John Fuckin' Kerry. Every time it looked like the Jihadis were down for the count, out trotted the Democrats to encourage them not to give up the fight.

530 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:49:51pm

re: #470 Steffan

Employment shrank in virtually every part of the economy — factories, construction companies, financial firms, accounting and bookkeeping, architectural and engineering firms, hotels and motels, food services, retailers, temporary help, transportation, publishing, janitorial and building maintenance, and even waste management. The few fields spared included education, health care and government.

Government jobs spared, and if Obama gets his way, more jobs on the way.

531 sngnsgt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:49:58pm

re: #518 gclaghorn

Now, now, you shouldn't call Colmes a witch...

/

;)

Naah, I call him by his given name, Skeletor. ;-)

532 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:50:51pm

re: #504 Sharmuta

I don't a-mews you?

Sorry, I just wasn't feline in the mood.

533 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:51:02pm

re: #519 JacksonTn

It is the way you say Piquante in Louisiana ...Piquante means "to prick" ...

Some may pronounce it ..

[pee-KAHNT] A spicy brown sauce made with shallots, white wine, vinegar, gherkins, parsley and various herbs and seasonings. It's served with sliced meats such as pork, tongue and beef ... and GATOR

I'm here at That dog won't hunt's house drinking beer. He had me absolutley crying with some Justin Williams Caujun lisp jokes. LOL

534 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:51:26pm

OK- I promise this is the last lol cat, but this one made me laugh 'til I cried.

535 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:52:01pm

re: #506 saberry0530

Congratulations!

536 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:52:11pm

Hi lizards, hope everyone is doing well.

Great job on the defense missle test!

537 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:52:18pm

re: #527 loflyer

Heck no mate, I got into the "talk like a pirate" thing. If it bugs you I can tone it down. As this is the FNDT I see little harm in it! (live in Atlanta, GA)

Coke capital, been there. The pirate thing does'nt bother me one bit.

538 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:52:21pm

Ouch.

539 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:52:22pm

re: #523 Outrider

Why would you ruin perfectly good whiskey by putting it in a glass?

:-)

540 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:52:36pm

The MSM is funny about money...

$700 billion bailout for Wall St? Yes do it, right away!

$100,000 clothing budget for Sarah Palin? Stop the presses! THis is an outrage! Frontpage above the fold headlines!

$120 million of Obama's campaing money, foreign source unacounted for? (...silence...)

Funny, eh?

541 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:52:59pm

re: #531 sngnsgt

Naah, I call him by his given name, Skeletor. ;-)

You mean his real name isn't Dumbass Jerkoff?

542 sngnsgt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:54:01pm

re: #538 Steffan

Ouch.

LOL!

543 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:54:01pm

re: #532 Spare O'Lake

Sorry, I just wasn't feline in the mood.

No need to be a sour puss.

544 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:54:18pm

re: #527 loflyer

Arrrrr! To hell with the treasure chest, it's 'er bootie I'm after! Arrr!

September 19th!

545 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:54:21pm

re: #529 Iron Fist

We need to wake up and understand that the fucking Democrats are the fuckin' enemy. In a lot of ways, the Left is more dangerous than the Jihadis. The Jihadis can't win without the Western Left. The War in Iraq wouldn't have lasted as long as it did without the moral/propaganda support of Democrats like Dick Durbin (D-al Qaeda), Ted Kennedy, and John Fuckin' Kerry. Every time it looked like the Jihadis were down for the count, out trotted the Democrats to encourage them not to give up the fight.

Once I researched Obama, I said he was a Marxist and he had a plan, and been saying that for a long time. Now a fellow traveler is saying essentially the same things but from the other side, crowing about their victory.

Khrushchev said they would bury us. Now one of "them" is in the highest office in the land.

546 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:54:45pm

Yaar! To the ATL and SE lizards, the ATL December meet has been postponed to January, probably the second Sunday in January. 'Me nic is blue if you have any questions or suggestions.

547 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:54:46pm

That dog's as subtle as a hand grenade in a barrrel of oat meal

548 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:54:50pm

re: #506 saberry0530

Was just informed by the son and DIL that I'm going to be a PAPAW again. Sometime in Late May, early June.

Serious congrats to you and them!

549 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:54:50pm

re: #528 rightymouse

And I can't wait for Al Franken to slink off into the sunset with a pacifier stuck in his mouth. What a baby. If a Rep behaved like him, the press would be all over him and rightly so.

Wait, there is still 133 votes to be found. F@#$% Franken aka Stewart Smally ... you got to wonder why he wanted to get rid of the LITTLE name

Little prick

550 sngnsgt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:54:51pm

re: #541 VegasRick

You mean his real name isn't Dumbass Jerkoff?

That's what his Dad calls him.

551 jaunte  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:55:28pm

re: #540 Kenneth

It's easy to comprehend $100,000.
"Hey, if I had that, I could pay off my house...
or buy as many guns as I have on my want list!"

552 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:56:23pm

re: #544 Sarge1984

Arrrrr! To hell with the treasure chest, it's 'er bootie I'm after! Arrr!

September 19th!

Haaar, what happen on 9/17 mate? Something that might interest a pirate?

553 Outrider  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:56:30pm

re: #539 Iron Fist

Why would you ruin perfectly good whiskey by putting it in a glass?

:-)


Me? No that is Jimmahs recipe. I'm a retired hick soldier... my whisky goes in the same mug I drink coffee.

554 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:56:31pm

re: #536 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hi lizards, hope everyone is doing well.

Great job on the defense missle test!

Fealing really fine now Bin, thanks.

555 JacksonTn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:56:46pm

re: #533 turn

I'm here at That dog won't hunt's house drinking beer. He had me absolutley crying with some Justin Williams Caujun lisp jokes. LOL

Boudreaux jokes? ...

556 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:57:09pm

re: #550 sngnsgt

That's what his Dad calls him.

Me too! Weiord, huh?

557 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:57:49pm

re: #545 JCM

Yeah. I'm really worried about the next four years. It occured to me today that the reason Hillary was ready to jump on the Obama bus was because she didn't expect there to be another election. Like, ever. One man, one vote, one time. Isn't that one of the DNC's planks?

558 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:57:59pm

re: #528 rightymouse

And I can't wait for Al Franken to slink off into the sunset with a pacifier stuck in his mouth. What a baby. If a Rep behaved like him, the press would be all over him and rightly so.

Figure the frickin' odds. According to Power Line, he's already talked to Reid about having the Senate steal it for him, not to mention the litigation he's already started.

559 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:58:04pm

[Link: failblog.files.wordpress.com...]

560 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:58:19pm

Vegas Rick admits to being Alan Colmes father!

News at 10PM
/couldn't resist

561 jamgarr  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:58:33pm

Bruddah Iz

Youtube Video

562 gclaghorn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:58:55pm

re: #534 Sharmuta

OK- I promise this is the last lol cat, but this one made me laugh 'til I cried.

ROFL!

563 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:59:01pm

re: #554 turn

Good to hear that! I'm feeling fine too just sad about my daughter and her significant other's dog. They'll probably have to put her down tomorrow. She's a shepard/coyote mix and as gentle and lovable as they come. :(

564 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:59:33pm

re: #287 Killgore Trout

When bamboo is freshly cut (I grow my own) it bends fairly easily but I think I over did it by bending 40 or so poles in one morning.


Sorry. Missed this post somehow. Where in the world do you live that you can grow bamboo?

565 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:59:41pm

re: #555 JacksonTn

Boudreaux jokes? ...

I asked TDWH who the hell is Bordreaux. What, he had pedro? WTF

566 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:59:43pm

re: #551 jaunte

A hundred grand wouldn't come near getting everything on my want list. It'd be a damn fine start on it, though.

567 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 6:59:59pm

re: #530 solomonpanting

Government jobs spared, and if Obama gets his way, more jobs on the way.

Hell, according to the OPM, he's looking to fill 7,000 jobs just in his administration. Something like ten percent of those have to be approved by the Senate, last I heard.

568 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:00:12pm

re: #557 Iron Fist

Yeah. I'm really worried about the next four years. It occured to me today that the reason Hillary was ready to jump on the Obama bus was because she didn't expect there to be another election. Like, ever. One man, one vote, one time. Isn't that one of the DNC's planks?

Iron, that's not going to happen and you know it, mate. We own too many guns for 'em to try it, which is why the socialists are so anti-gun!

569 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:00:18pm

re: #552 loflyer

...not a clue about 9/17...

All I know is September 19th is Talk Like a Pirate Day. Every year.

570 JeremyR  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:00:26pm

re: #541 VegasRick

You mean his real name isn't Dumbass Jerkoff?

Hannity and the communist.

571 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:00:42pm

re: #564 rightymouse

Sorry. Missed this post somehow. Where in the world do you live that you can grow bamboo?

Where do you live that you can't? It's pretty easy...grass, you know.

I can't have it here for fear it will jump into the neighbor's yards.

572 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:00:43pm

re: #560 saberry0530

Vegas Rick admits to being Alan Colmes father!

News at 10PM
/couldn't resist

Oh brother ........Wait a minute!.......

573 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:00:53pm

WTF is pedro, budro means the pedro the boat? Got to go fetch a beer.

574 JacksonTn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:01:28pm

re: #565 turn

I asked TDWH who the hell is Bordreaux. What, he had pedro? WTF

[Link: lafourche.k12.la.us...]

A little more for his joke lineup ....

575 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:01:28pm

re: #562 gclaghorn

ROFL!

Haaar!

576 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:01:49pm

re: #573 turn

WTF is pedro, budro means the pedro the boat? Got to go fetch a beer.

Boudreaux is Thibodeaux's friend.

577 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:02:36pm

re: #549 turn

Wait, there is still 133 votes to be found. F@#$% Franken aka Stewart Smally ... you got to wonder why he wanted to get rid of the LITTLE name

Little prick

It's all so unbelievable. How the heck does HE know that there are ANY votes missing?

Answer - he doesn't.

It's all utter and complete BS.

He needs to concede like a grown man would when he's lost a campaign.

578 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:02:39pm

re: #569 Sarge1984

...not a clue about 9/17...

All I know is September 19th is Talk Like a Pirate Day. Every year.

Oh lord, was that when I got started on this stuff? You would think I would lay off of it mate. Nah, having too much fun!

579 jaunte  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:02:40pm

re: #566 Iron Fist

I figured you would have a better list than mine!

580 Jimmah  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:02:43pm

re: #523 Outrider

Glenfiddich single malt whisky, coca-cola, sprinkles, a tablespoon of ice-cream, and a straw. In one large glass.

Hmmm. A whisky float? ;-)>

I'm thinking along the lines of Pan-Glaswegian something or other....

Anyhoo - got a bit of a headache just now. Probably a good time to call it a day. Nite folks - have a good one.

581 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:04:01pm

re: #558 Steffan

Figure the frickin' odds. According to Power Line, he's already talked to Reid about having the Senate steal it for him, not to mention the litigation he's already started.

Like I said in #577. He should concede like a grown man would.

582 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:04:02pm

Barry of Arabia

"President-elect Barack Obama's aides say he is considering making a major foreign policy speech from an Islamic capital during his first 100 days in office," the New York Times reports. Problem is, where?

Clearly it would be cheating for Mr. Obama to fly to Detroit, talk to Dearborn's 30,000 Arab residents and call it a day

...But there is a city that, although not a national capital, is for all intents and purposes the capital of all Islam--a place where Obama could credibly speak to all Muslims, Sunni and Shiite, from Morocco to Malaysia to Michigan.

Not only that, but Obama's very presence--along with that of his secretary of state, chief of staff, the rest of his entourage and the traveling press from all over the world--would demonstrate that Islam is a more tolerant faith than many Westerners, including this columnist, have thought.

Is it really that simple? Can we be serious? Yes, we can.

All the new president has to do is give a speech in Mecca.

583 lostlakehiker  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:04:44pm

It's probably impossible to protect against the kind of launch Russia could put in the sky. What with penetration aids, MIRVing, and the like, they'd get a fair fraction of their stuff through any defense we could mount.

If we spent a bucket of money upgrading our interception capabilities, they could spend far less upgrading their penetration capabilities and we'd be back where we started.

We aren't aiming at that kind of defense anyhow. How do we persuade the Russians of this? We give them some access to our strategic thinking and to the parameters of what we can do. If they ever do decide to launch at us, it will mean that more of their stuff gets through. So what? Nothing of Russia would be left to enjoy that, and they know it, and we know they know it. So they won't launch, and we know that, and they ought to know we know it.

The worry is that somebody off in Syria or Iran or Pakistan, some day down the road, will throw caution to the winds and light off a few rockets and send them our way or toward our friends. That's something a missile defense system might be able to handle. Today's test is encouraging.

Every state has a duty, I would argue, to do what it can, within the limits of affordability, to make it harder for rogue states and stateless organizations to inflict massive damage using modest or trivial resources. Not to excuse al Qaeda for 9-11, but we would have been wise to have airliner cabin doors that by-gum locked. Having a missile defense system that can stop 1 or 3 or maybe 10 shots falls in that same category.

584 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:04:46pm

re: #563 Pvt Bin Jammin

Good to hear that! I'm feeling fine too just sad about my daughter and her significant other's dog. They'll probably have to put her down tomorrow. She's a shepard/coyote mix and as gentle and lovable as they come. :(


I love dogs! Shepards are the best, only problem they don't last. Love my labs, and hey TDWH had a coyote mix that was one of the coolest dogs I've ever met. Friggin smart, the look they give you is always directly in your eyes. I think they are able to size humans up better than humans.

585 VegasRick  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:05:05pm

Gotta runs folks, talk to you later.

586 loflyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:05:22pm

re: #580 Jimmah

I'm thinking along the lines of Pan-Glaswegian something or other....

Anyhoo - got a bit of a headache just now. Probably a good time to call it a day. Nite folks - have a good one.

Night Jimmah! Just looked at your avatar and its damn funny mate! Thanks and good night.

587 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:05:38pm

re: #543 Sharmuta

No need to be a sour puss.

That's a perrrrrfect lion.

588 Joan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:05:48pm

re: #534 Sharmuta

LOL

589 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:06:08pm

re: #534 Sharmuta

OK- I promise this is the last lol cat, but this one made me laugh 'til I cried.

That's too funny! Saving it, thanks. :)

590 sngnsgt  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:07:05pm

re: #556 VegasRick

Me too! Weiord, huh?

LOL! How's things out there in Vegas? Know of a house or two or ten for sale in Vegas? From what it's lookin' like, they can't give 'em away out there!

591 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:07:07pm

re: #567 Steffan

Hell, according to the OPM, he's looking to fill 7,000 jobs just in his administration. Something like ten percent of those have to be approved by the Senate, last I heard.

I'm more concerned with any WPA-type positions being created by the hundreds of thousands, or more, that advances a major Dem party policy: More folks dependent upon government jobs=more Dem voters=more taxes sucked into government programs.

592 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:07:32pm

re: #577 rightymouse

I think he needs to clean off those big ass horn rimmed glasses and see the light. What a joke, and this is the state of our electorate?

593 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:08:00pm

[Link: www.insidedefense.com...]

InsideDefense.com
December 5, 2008

Bull's-Eye

UPDATE: The Missile Defense Agency announced today that its Ground-based
Midcourse Defense system conducted a successful intercept of a ballistic
missile target over the Pacific Ocean.

According to the agency's statement:

For this test, a threat-representative target missile was launched from
Kodiak, Alaska at 3:04pm (EST). This long-range ballistic target was tracked by several land- and sea-based radars, which sent targeting information to the interceptor missile. At 3:23pm (EST) the Ground-Based Interceptor was launched from the Ronald W. Reagan Missile Defense Site, located at Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif. The interceptor's
exoatmospheric kill vehicle was carried into the target's predicted trajectory in space, maneuvered to the target, performed discrimination, and intercepted the threat warhead.

This was the first time an operational crew located at the alternate fire control center at Ft. Greely, Alaska remotely launched the interceptor from Vandenberg AFB. In previous interceptor launches from Vandenberg, military crews at the fire control center at Schriever AFB, Colo. remotely launched the interceptor.

The target was successfully tracked by a transportable AN/TPY-2 radar located in Juneau, Alaska, a U.S. Navy Aegis BMD ship with SPY-1 radar, the Upgraded Early Warning Radar at Beale Air Force Base, Calif., and the Sea-Based X-band radar. Each sensor sent information to the fire control system, which integrated the data together to provide the most accurate
target trajectory for the interceptor.

As Inside Missile Defense reported in May, MDA retooled the program’s flight-test lineup following the last delay in the intercept test schedule:

FTG-4, the intercept test originally scheduled for the fourth quarter of
fiscal year 2007 -- which had been pushed back to the second quarter of FY-08, and then pushed back again from this summer to early autumn -- has been renamed FTG-5, according to MDA spokesman Rick Lehner.

A telemetry unit aboard the exoatmospheric kill vehicle failed a recent
electrical test, necessitating its replacement and causing the
intercept-test delay, Lehner told IMD May 14.

[...]

One missile defense critic didn't wait for the test to take place. Phil Coyle, a senior adviser at the Center for Defense Information, sent out an e-mail to reporters last night stating:

• If there were a credible threat, U.S. missile defenses can't deal with it
anyway. If Iran or North Korea believed that U.S. missile defenses were effective, they would simply build more missiles or use decoys and countermeasures. That's what's behind the test scheduled for tomorrow, but if successful it won't prove what the MDA will say it proves.

• U.S. missile defenses have no demonstrated effectiveness to defend Europe or the U.S. under realistic operational conditions. U.S. missile defenses lack the ability to deal with decoys and countermeasures, lack demonstrated effectiveness under realistic operational conditions, and lack the ability
to handle attacks involving multiple missiles.

• Proposed U.S. missile defenses in Europe are threatening to Russia, and are causing the Cold War with Russia to be reignited. Proposed space-based missile defenses are also threatening to Russia, as well as China.

• Can America depend on missile defenses for its security? Unfortunately the answer is no. The United States has been trying unsuccessfully to develop effective missile defenses for over 60 years, and we still don't know how to deal with a realistic threat. Fortunately we don't have a real
threat unless you want to worry about Russia or China someday, and with their missiles Russia and China already can overwhelm the most futuristic missile defenses the Pentagon can imagine.

[so now we know where the turd in the punchbowl came from]

594 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:08:05pm

re: #585 VegasRick

Gotta runs folks, talk to you later.

Black seven Rick

595 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:08:18pm

re: #584 turn
No, shepards don't last long, unfortunately. That dog of their's is just wonderful. I never knew a coyote mix could be so great. She is not aggressive at all and really, really beautiful. She got the coyote tail. LOL

596 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:08:33pm

re: #557 Iron Fist

Yeah. I'm really worried about the next four years. It occured to me today that the reason Hillary was ready to jump on the Obama bus was because she didn't expect there to be another election. Like, ever. One man, one vote, one time. Isn't that one of the DNC's planks?

I really don't think it will go that far. If Obama / Reid / Pelosi try to much the the '10 blacklash will be impressive in its scale and magnitude. Obama will have a hostile conservative congress to deal with.

Obama may think he has a mandate, but his mandate is anti-GWB, no pro his agenda. The "true believers" who voted Obama are few and far between. The majority of Obama voters are yellow dog dems, or to ill-informed to make a rational decision or "independents" who couldn't vote McCain. Very few of those will tolerate a hard left governance.

597 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:09:40pm

re: #571 OldLineTexan

Where do you live that you can't? It's pretty easy...grass, you know.

I can't have it here for fear it will jump into the neighbor's yards.


I was born and raised in Thailand. Lots of bamboo there, believe me.

Now I live in Ohio.

The green saplings (I guess that's what you'd call them) would be easy to bend. And if you take strips from the older bamboo, you can bend that too. I was thinking of the tubed, hard as nails bamboo.

598 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:10:29pm

re: #568 loflyer

We own a lot of guns, true, but that isn't a guarentee that it won't happen here. It's just one more hurdle that they have to get across on the way to a People's Republic of North America. It is why the Left want gun control so badly. The question is, what would we really do if the Congress outlawed the civillian ownership of guns next year, and gave us, say, 90 days to comply with the law?

Back in the early '90's the Clinton Administration had a questionair given to some marines at 29 Palms. The upshot of it was a question asking the marines if they would fire on American civillians in the name of gun control. That kind of blew up in their face when it got out. I never heard any official results, but the scuttlebutt was that it basically split 50-50.

I know that some military officers asked themselves what they would do in that event. The answers went from comply with the orders all the way to fire on other members of the military when they tried to enforce the orders.

Where would the military fall if that happens next year? If the bulk of the military backs the government, they will eventually win. If the military comes apart, well, the last time we played that game they called it the Civil War.

599 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:10:42pm

re: #562 gclaghorn

ROFL!

sharm - lol

600 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:11:24pm

re: #595 Pvt Bin Jammin

Sorry to hear about the dog. :(

My next door neighbor had a dog with a tail like that. A mix, and he had no idea what breed it was, so he called it a North American Plume Tail. LOL

601 Bubblehead II  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:11:58pm

Just logging in. It works, it's a threat to my friends. It WILL be stopped. To hell with America.

/CBBHO
// Resistance is futile

602 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:11:59pm

re: #583 lostlakehiker

Hey Lost, I don't really think the US is all that worried about nations that have had nukes for decades and knew how to control them, it's the friggin crazy Jihadi's we need to worry about.

603 WindHorse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:12:53pm

God Bless American technology.

And, God Bless our troops!

And God Bless the American system.... despite the fact that it has been corrupted and permanently scarred by no-nothing greedy bastards.

We will survive.

Drink.

604 WindHorse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:13:16pm

....and God Bless the Second Amendment.

605 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:13:17pm

re: #597 rightymouse

I was born and raised in Thailand. Lots of bamboo there, believe me.

Now I live in Ohio.

The green saplings (I guess that's what you'd call them) would be easy to bend. And if you take strips from the older bamboo, you can bend that too. I was thinking of the tubed, hard as nails bamboo.

Cool. I don't see the scaffolding-sized bamboo here (just outside of Houston), but there are clumps of decent fishing-pole stuff here and there leftover from old farms and escapees from planters and yards. You can cut it and bend it. KT overdid it, he said.

606 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:13:21pm

As a deterrent, missile defense is too reactive and unreliable. It is a 21st century version of the Maginot Line. I wish American policy makers focused more on upgrading America's nuclear deterrent than on placing a handful of interceptors in Eastern Europe. Assuming the interceptors worked flawlessly, fixed interceptor sites could be easily neutralized by Russian special forces with suitcase nukes.

In the 1980's the Soviets shit themselves when we deployed Pershing and Cruise missiles to Europe (to counterbalance a much larger Warsaw Pact nuclear threat). Those missiles were mobile and could hit and destroyed Command and Control bunkers around Moscow. There was no defense against them and the Soviet political leadership knew it.

The presence of those missiles made the Soviet political political leadership think twice about engaging in any mischief. That's real deterrence.

607 Sunlight  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:13:28pm

re: #495 JCM

A Marxist speaks on Obama.


Mark William Rudd As the war escalated, Mark Rudd worked with other youth movement leaders to take SDS in a more militant direction. Together, they formed a radical, violence-oriented organization, referring to themselves collectively as "Weatherman."

What a joke... In New Mexico, the Dems are trying to stay out of jail because of corruption on public projects and DWIs...

608 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:13:44pm

well what the heck is up with men and bubblebaths? mikeydad and i went out to dinner tonight in cold colorado. had a fab dinner and wine, and on the way home i axed him if he wanted a nice hot bubblebath to warm up and set the stage for a preliminary 41st anniv (next tues) celebration! he says sure--so i made a nice bubbly bath, candles, gas fireplace, and a glass of ammaretto! he gets in--sits for 5 min--gets out and say--"DONE" soooo- iget in the bath with more wine and a book- and by the time i get out, he's sound asleep-snoring with the cat-see my avatar--so i put away the slinky gown and am now in my sweats talking to youse guys on lgf! something is wrong here!

609 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:14:09pm

re: #600 gop_patriot

Sorry to hear about the dog. :(

My next door neighbor had a dog with a tail like that. A mix, and he had no idea what breed it was, so he called it a North American Plume Tail. LOL

Thanks. We all love that dog to pieces.

North American Plume Tail? That's really cute.

610 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:14:41pm

re: #544 Sarge1984

Arrrrr.re: #553 Outrider

Me? No that is Jimmahs recipe. I'm a retired hick soldier... my whisky goes in the same mug I drink coffee.

Reminds me of the old story about the Southern gentleman who was asked why he always closed his eyes when he took a sip of bourbon.

"The sight of good whiskey makes my mouth water, and I do not like to dilute my drink."

/told, in dialect, by H. Allen Smith a very long time ago

611 WindHorse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:14:41pm

oops... that should be "know-nothing"....

612 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:14:49pm

re: #365 Killian Bundy

Despite earlier furor, Palin's shopping continued

/geez, the election's been over for how long?

Imagine Hilllary shopping at Victoria's secret - actually let's not and say we did.

At least Palin has a husband who would love to see her in Victoria's Secret clothing.

613 lostlakehiker  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:14:57pm

re: #21 Racer X

Oh crap, we're doomed. DOOMED!

Fire up the man made Global Warming machine!

The sun is beyond our control. It's fairly steady, but it does have its cycles and they're not even predictable. Our carbon use is not beyond our control, and it's quite predictable.

If you're at a gaming table and you're losing money in a craps game, but then you hit a winning streak, but then you hit a losing streak, and your losses pile up, but then you hit a bit of a winning streak, do you think Hey Baby Now I'm Gonna Get Rich?

I hope not. You're gonna get broke. You're missing the long term trend because of the "noise" or runs of luck. Behind those runs of luck there's a bias toward the house. You lose.

It's the same with global warming. Behind the zigs and zags in solar output, cloud formation, and many other things we can't track or don't understand, there's this bias towards warmer, courtesy of the undeniably extra, unquestionably greenhouse, gas CO2.

If this winter is cold, that doesn't prove anything more than if you win a couple of tosses at the table. If glaciers advance this year, or if the north polar icecap recovers a fraction of its losses that have piled up over the last decade or two, that doesn't prove much either. You have to average things out on a 10, 20, or 50 year scale to see the basic trend through the noise.

614 Sarge1984  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:14:59pm

re: #603 WindHorse

Here here!

615 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:15:30pm

re: #602 turn

Hey Lost, I don't really think the US is all that worried about nations that have had nukes for decades and knew how to control them, it's the friggin crazy Jihadi's we need to worry about.

Not to mention the KKK (Kooky Korean Kommie).

616 WindHorse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:16:23pm

re: #608 mikeymom

keep smiling, and thank God for the 41 years.

Some of us ain't that lucky....

617 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:16:42pm

re: #606 Dirk Diggler

Obama has given some indication that he will persue some form of unilateral nuclear disarmament. Exactly how far he'll push that, I don't know, but I'm positive that he won't resume the nuclear tesrting that we need to ensure that our nuclear weapons will work if we need them to.

618 WindHorse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:17:39pm

re: #608 mikeymom

and my heartfelt congratulations on your anniversary!

619 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:17:58pm

re: #605 OldLineTexan

Cool. I don't see the scaffolding-sized bamboo here (just outside of Houston), but there are clumps of decent fishing-pole stuff here and there leftover from old farms and escapees from planters and yards. You can cut it and bend it. KT overdid it, he said.


Did a quick check on bamboo to see where it grows, i.e. in the U.S.

Very interesting. And I can certainly understand that cutting/bending bamboo is not like playing with elephant grass.

620 Joan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:17:59pm

re: #561 jamgarr

Bruddah Iz

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Such a sweet favorite; okay, so I'll see your Israel Kamakawiwo'ole -
and RAISE you some Fields of Gold. Definitive:

Youtube Video

Eva Cassidy

621 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:17:59pm

re: #608 mikeymom

well what the heck is up with men and bubblebaths? mikeydad and i went out to dinner tonight in cold colorado. had a fab dinner and wine, and on the way home i axed him if he wanted a nice hot bubblebath to warm up and set the stage for a preliminary 41st anniv (next tues) celebration! he says sure--so i made a nice bubbly bath, candles, gas fireplace, and a glass of ammaretto! he gets in--sits for 5 min--gets out and say--"DONE" soooo- iget in the bath with more wine and a book- and by the time i get out, he's sound asleep-snoring with the cat-see my avatar--so i put away the slinky gown and am now in my sweats talking to youse guys on lgf! something is wrong here!

The way to a man's heart is through his stomach anyway. Actually, when body temperture falls after a bath, it can make you sleepy. Just tell him what a good time you had in the AM. Let him try and remember.

622 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:18:06pm

re: #616 WindHorse

oh yes-- i treasure him--he cooks! i know i am blessed--just makin'fun

623 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:18:34pm

re: #595 Pvt Bin Jammin

No, shepards don't last long, unfortunately. That dog of their's is just wonderful. I never knew a coyote mix could be so great. She is not aggressive at all and really, really beautiful. She got the coyote tail. LOL

I walk my lab along the American River Parkway every day. I'm really lucky to have such a beautiful place to walk the dog so close to my house. Long story short, he flushed out a coyote or two the past couple of years. Not too long ago he chased one then came back after running for a while. I was putting the lead back on him and noticed he was acting pretty sublime, you know not overly excited. I clicked the lead on him and noticed as I looked down he was pretty focused on someting. I looked up over my shoulder and the coyote he chased had been followed back by two others! One on one I had no problem but three on on was too much for my Precious! Pretty willey animilas those coyotes.

624 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:18:52pm

re: #608 mikeymom

well what the heck is up with men and bubblebaths? mikeydad and i went out to dinner tonight in cold colorado. had a fab dinner and wine, and on the way home i axed him if he wanted a nice hot bubblebath to warm up and set the stage for a preliminary 41st anniv (next tues) celebration! he says sure--so i made a nice bubbly bath, candles, gas fireplace, and a glass of ammaretto! he gets in--sits for 5 min--gets out and say--"DONE" soooo- iget in the bath with more wine and a book- and by the time i get out, he's sound asleep-snoring with the cat-see my avatar--so i put away the slinky gown and am now in my sweats talking to youse guys on lgf! something is wrong here!

Have you tried getting a second tub, and shoving them out onto a scenic overlook?

/works on TV, somehow

625 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:19:08pm

re: #609 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thanks. We all love that dog to pieces.

North American Plume Tail? That's really cute.

[Link: www.hsus.org...]

I lost my service dog 2 years ago - went to multiple therapy sessions - highly recommended.

626 jamgarr  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:19:20pm

Who put the Mac in Fleetwood?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_JdKJQPS9I

627 WindHorse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:19:29pm

re: #622 mikeymom

I can see that.... and please remember, the grass ain't any greener.....

(HE is a lucky guy!)

628 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:19:55pm

re: #621 DistantThunder

" oh yeah baby-- it was awesome"--is that what you mean?lol

629 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:20:14pm

re: #608 mikeymom

well what the heck is up with men and bubblebaths?

LOL!
How many men do you think take baths instead of showers?
It's the thought that counts. Congratulations on 41.

630 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:20:26pm

re: #608 mikeymom

Bet he wouldn't mind it if you woke him up. LOL

631 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:20:29pm

re: #598 Iron Fist

We own a lot of guns, true, but that isn't a guarentee that it won't happen here. It's just one more hurdle that they have to get across on the way to a People's Republic of North America. It is why the Left want gun control so badly. The question is, what would we really do if the Congress outlawed the civillian ownership of guns next year, and gave us, say, 90 days to comply with the law?

Back in the early '90's the Clinton Administration had a questionair given to some marines at 29 Palms. The upshot of it was a question asking the marines if they would fire on American civillians in the name of gun control. That kind of blew up in their face when it got out. I never heard any official results, but the scuttlebutt was that it basically split 50-50.

I know that some military officers asked themselves what they would do in that event. The answers went from comply with the orders all the way to fire on other members of the military when they tried to enforce the orders.

Where would the military fall if that happens next year? If the bulk of the military backs the government, they will eventually win. If the military comes apart, well, the last time we played that game they called it the Civil War.

I was thinking about that 'meself and decided the best response would be to announce to the US military that gun-owners are upholding our second amendment rights and remind the military that their oath is to the constitution and not the political administration. Then pray for the best mate!

632 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:20:51pm

re: #608 mikeymom


Check his pulse, quick! Ha!

633 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:21:25pm

re: #591 solomonpanting

I'm more concerned with any WPA-type positions being created by the hundreds of thousands, or more, that advances a major Dem party policy: More folks dependent upon government jobs=more Dem voters=more taxes sucked into government programs.

He wants to revive the New Deal: NRA (not the rifle group, unfortunately), CCC, WPA, the whole alphabet soup. Where he plans to get the money for it is open to question, given the current economy.... a $10 trillion deficit in the not-so-distant future is my guess.

634 WindHorse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:22:13pm

Charles, what you have created here is truly awesome..... thank you.

635 rightymouse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:22:29pm

Time to toddle off and be a telly-tubby.

636 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:22:48pm

re: #624 OldLineTexan

tooo funny! in our earlier days, used to go skinny dipping in the hill saround new paltz, ny--now--would scare the wildlife here in co

637 USBeast  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:22:52pm

Simulated Obama statement: "I have said that I would only support 'proven missile defense technology' and I stand by that statement. Even with the success of these tests it has yet to be proven that this technology will actually improve our defense. Are we not better served by putting our efforts into diplomacy? Are we not better served by building bridges than by building missiles? If we are to repair the damage done to our national reputation in the last eight years would it not be better to drop our pants our guard our bellicose attitude toward those with whom we would like to make our friends?"

I can't go on. My DD wants on the computer and I've made myself sick.

638 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:23:00pm

re: #628 mikeymom

" oh yeah baby-- it was awesome"--is that what you mean?lol

Yeah, and tell him that it was so amazing that you want to do THAT again. See if you notice his wheels grinding away trying to remember his amazing technique.

639 jamgarr  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:23:03pm

re: #620 Joan

Such a sweet favorite; okay, so I'll see your Israel Kamakawiwo'ole -
and RAISE you some Fields of Gold. Definitive:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Eva Cassidy

Nice!

640 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:23:08pm

re: #635 rightymouse

Time to toddle off and be a telly-tubby.

Tubby tustard, or tubby toast?

/I can't believe I survived them

641 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:23:44pm

re: #613 lostlakehiker

You think man is causeing gloable climate change?

642 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:24:07pm

re: #613 lostlakehiker

The sun is beyond our control. It's fairly steady, but it does have its cycles and they're not even predictable. Our carbon use is not beyond our control, and it's quite predictable.

If you're at a gaming table and you're losing money in a craps game, but then you hit a winning streak, but then you hit a losing streak, and your losses pile up, but then you hit a bit of a winning streak, do you think Hey Baby Now I'm Gonna Get Rich?

I hope not. You're gonna get broke. You're missing the long term trend because of the "noise" or runs of luck. Behind those runs of luck there's a bias toward the house. You lose.

It's the same with global warming. Behind the zigs and zags in solar output, cloud formation, and many other things we can't track or don't understand, there's this bias towards warmer, courtesy of the undeniably extra, unquestionably greenhouse, gas CO2.

If this winter is cold, that doesn't prove anything more than if you win a couple of tosses at the table. If glaciers advance this year, or if the north polar icecap recovers a fraction of its losses that have piled up over the last decade or two, that doesn't prove much either. You have to average things out on a 10, 20, or 50 year scale to see the basic trend through the noise.

Ice ages have been caused by decreased solar activity. If we have indeed entered a period of significantly decreased solar activity then any global warming caused by any other factors (including CO2) will be helpful, not harmful.
To ignore this possibility is not only unscientific, it is idiotic.

643 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:24:09pm

Night all!

Keep the Republic warm and happy for another 24 hours at least.

644 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:24:46pm

re: #631 LoFlyer

I was thinking about that 'meself and decided the best response would be to announce to the US military that gun-owners are upholding our second amendment rights and remind the military that their oath is to the constitution and not the political administration. Then pray for the best mate!

I think very few in the military would go along. They'd either refuse the illegal orders and sit in the barracks and dare an administration to do that, or actively say our duty is the constitution and defend it. Our military isn't a mindless tool like 3rd world thugs use, ours thinks.

645 legalpad  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:24:59pm

re: #534 Sharmuta

OK- I promise this is the last lol cat, but this one made me laugh 'til I cried.

Post as many as you like. My sister has about 30 cats and I send her the links.

646 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:25:00pm

re: #608 mikeymom

What time did he get up for work this morning?

647 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:25:01pm

re: #606 Dirk Diggler

Well said. Especially the Maginot Line reference. But any investment in missile defense also helps other areas of military development. If missile defense is a cutting edge science it may yet produce a 'game changer'.

It also gives us cool museums.

648 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:25:20pm

re: #631 LoFlyer

It is a shame that we are even having to ask these questions. The Second Amendment says what it means, and means what it says. The Court needs to get rid of all the Federal gun control laws. Period. They constitute an infringement on the rights of all Americans.

We need to take this issue completely off of the table.

649 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:25:25pm

re: #615 Spare O'Lake

Only consolation there is they could'nt even do it right, it was a friggin dudd

650 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:25:43pm

re: #630 gop_patriot

ummm--he doesnt take the blue pill--and umm-i am not a morning person--soo--umm- it is good after all these years--just-not so often!

651 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:25:49pm

re: #646 Kenneth

What time did he get up for work this morning?

You dirty, dirty man.

/

652 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:26:59pm

re: #623 turn
"Pretty willey animilas those coyotes."

Yes they are. Our daughter walks their dogs near their home. They live on a pretty hill in Los Angeles where they are nice condos and big open areas nearby, full of wildlife. The coyotes really check that one particular dog out. Seem to know that she's one of them ha ha They can't take them off leash over where they are but it's a nice area for walking anyway.

We've had a big coyote problem around here of late. They seem to be packing up and carrying a lot of pets away. Sad.

653 Promethea  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:27:21pm

re: #100 rightymouse

I suspect that he's being going to bed at night these days asking himself just what the hell he just stepped into. It will all be on his back soon. Heh.

I've never gotten the impression that he's an introspective man. He seems more like a narcissist, who only cares what he can get out of anything. Another John Kerry, but more articulate.

It will be "interesting" to see how he functions in the presidency.

654 Bubblehead II  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:27:31pm

re: #631 LoFlyer

My personal belief from my time in the military is that if faced with that situation, the majority of the Military (Enlisted as well as officer) will side with the American people and tell the politicians to eat shit.. They serve voluntarily and fully understand not only the Constitution but their Oath to uphold it. As for the rest. well.............................

655 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:27:50pm

re: #638 DistantThunder

umm--technique! what is that of which you speak?

656 WindHorse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:28:19pm

re: #653 Promethea

....and cleaner.

657 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:28:23pm

re: #644 JCM

I think very few in the military would go along. They'd either refuse the illegal orders and sit in the barracks and dare an administration to do that, or actively say our duty is the constitution and defend it. Our military isn't a mindless tool like 3rd world thugs use, ours thinks.

Arr, you are too right mate! I prey that we never have this situation arise!

658 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:30:49pm

re: #657 LoFlyer

arrgghh lofyer! avast! wouldyou ya know about the man in the boat-since we are talkin' about umm-stuff?

659 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:30:49pm

G'night all. turnwife says join the party.

660 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:31:18pm

Later, lizards, we are meeting Desert Sage for a "War Council" meeting & got to feed the pooches and get changed.

Take care, all.

661 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:31:30pm

re: #650 mikeymom

LOL!

662 turn  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:31:52pm

re: #652 Pvt Bin Jammin


Yeah be careful, g'nite Pvt

663 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:32:03pm

re: #660 Pvt Bin Jammin

Cool! Have a great evening. :)

664 OldLineTexan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:32:31pm

re: #660 Pvt Bin Jammin

Later, lizards, we are meeting Desert Sage for a "War Council" meeting & got to feed the pooches and get changed.

Take care, all.

Sounds like something you say whilst flipping off the (not yet) President-Elect.

/

665 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:32:36pm

Ammo burning fun!

Where do I sign up!

666 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:33:01pm

re: #648 Iron Fist

It is a shame that we are even having to ask these questions. The Second Amendment says what it means, and means what it says. The Court needs to get rid of all the Federal gun control laws. Period. They constitute an infringement on the rights of all Americans.

We need to take this issue completely off of the table.

We made some good strides in Georgia over our ridiculous concealed carry laws that basically prevented any law-abiding citizen from carrying a gun in any public area. 'Me ATL lizard mate Noam Chomski did some good work with a pro-carry group that spear-headed the effort. 'Me hats off to 'ye Noam!

667 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:33:36pm

I don’t believe in quotas. America was founded on a philosophy of individual rights, not group rights. — Clarence Thomas

668 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:34:41pm

re: #653 Promethea

I agree. Obama is so unfit for command. I don't think that he realizes this. He has bought his on hype, drank his own koolaid, and joined his own cult. He really believes that he is this infallible quasi-god made flesh. I don't think he has a clue about his own limitations.

It'll be interesting to watch him as he comes apart, I guess, but I'd rather we not go through this.

669 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:34:54pm

Hugo's satellite ain't calling home...

Doh!

670 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:35:07pm

re: #598 Iron Fist

I have faith in the common sense of our troops. No officer worth his or her salt will give an order that they know won't be obeyed, and an officer giving that order could very well find him- or herself in the crosshairs.

I also have faith in the survival sense of our politicians. They are very well aware that no politician will survive giving such an order, and that is meant literally.

Before Heller, some localities were able to get away with it... and some (like Chicago) are still trying, not that it does them any good (homicides in Chicago exceed combat deaths in Iraq).

Those thoughts, however optimistic, don't keep me from stockpiling ammunition. That's an investment better than gold.

671 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:35:48pm

Notice how there is no riot over the OJ conviction - even by an all white jury. The community has a new leader in Mr Zero. Out with the old, in with the new.

672 Ojoe  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:35:54pm

Given some of the fatwas, I think the Vatican ought to have one of these interceptors.

673 picaro  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:36:09pm

re: #648 Iron Fist

In California, so called "assault rifles" (mostly anything with a detachable magazine) have been illegal for a decade. The state didn't just ban new sales, but made posession illegal. They basically gave us four options:
Destroy the rifle
Surrender the rifle to a law enforcement agency in exchange for $230
Sell the rifle to a licensed California "assault weapon" dealer
Dispose of the rifle out of state

Our then AG, who is now a local congresscritter (Dan Lungren), added SKS 10 round rifles to the ban list in 1998. He's supposedly a conservative, but I think he was posturing for the gubernatorial race that year.

674 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:36:14pm

re: #658 mikeymom

arrgghh lofyer! avast! wouldyou ya know about the man in the boat-since we are talkin' about umm-stuff?

You don't want me to talk about 'me experience with the "man in the boat"! Too much fun and embarrassment, mate!

675 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:37:17pm

re: #669 experiencedtraveller

Hugo's satellite ain't calling home...

Doh!

...serious operational glitches...

I think we have video.....

676 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:37:24pm

re: #669 experiencedtraveller

Hugo's satellite ain't calling home...

Doh!

Oh, that's a shame. Well, what do you expect with 17th century electronics? I think there were some vacuum tubes in there!

677 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:37:26pm

re: #668 Iron Fist

we were on vacation on election day--in a foreign country--i went bezerk and didnt want to come home--i still cant listen to him speak--gonna ba a long 4 yrs

678 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:38:15pm

re: #669 experiencedtraveller

Hugo's satellite ain't calling home...

Doh!

T.S Hugo, unfortunately they are insured, mate!

679 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:38:18pm

Intelligent men produce better quality sperm research has shown.

Dr Allan Pacey, Senior Lecturer in Andrology, University of Sheffield, said: "The fact that it's possible to detect a statistical relationship between intelligence and semen quality in adult men probably says more about the co-development of brain and testicles when the man was in his mother's womb, and therefore how well they both function in adult life, rather than suggesting that playing Sudoku can somehow stimulate more sperm to be produced.

News you can use.

680 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:39:50pm

re: #679 Kenneth

the co-development of brain and testicles

What if my brain is in my testicles?

681 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:40:23pm

re: #665 JCM

Have you ever been to Knob Creek? I went in 2001. Very impressive. My only dissappointment is that the guys with the flamethrowers weren't really there. They had a display, but no live firing the weapons. Everything was down for maintenance.

682 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:40:30pm

re: #679 Kenneth

Intelligent men produce better quality sperm research has shown.

News you can use.

I'll tell 'me dad! That might give him incentive to keep his mind sharp!

683 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:40:44pm

re: #674 LoFlyer

aww cmon--i've embarrassed myself here--join the club! ( iwas married young- and no education--didnt discover "him" till i was 22! JOY JOY!)

684 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:40:51pm

I read about tragic crimes such as the violent rape and murder of an elderly woman in her 80's, and I think, "Corrupt politicians took away her god-given right to protect herself with the most force possible to protect her life. I and anyone else should be allowed to use deadly force in the last few seconds of our lives."

685 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:41:27pm

re: #674 LoFlyer
That was one of my favorite Brando roles...

686 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:41:33pm

re: #608 mikeymom

Insensitivity is a guy thing. I don't think any woman understands it, but too many of you tolerate it. Why didn't you wake him up?

Trade secret that shouldn't be secret: we really need to be hit upside the head with a cluebat every once in a while. Give him some annoying "honeydo" jobs this weekend.

687 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:41:47pm

re: #668 Iron Fist

Not fit for command? You mean the guy who said he would call his Joint Chiefs of Staff and order them to end the war in Iraq, in complete ignorance of the actual chain of command under the Commander in Chief?

Say it ain't so!

By the way, did you know his uncle marched with Patton and liberated Auschwitz? He still won't come out of the bathroom.

688 Ojoe  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:42:07pm

re: #673 picaro

Doesn't that new ban make the 1873 Winchester lever action illegal?

689 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:42:43pm

re: #612 DistantThunder

Imagine Hilllary shopping at Victoria's secret - actually let's not and say we did.

Ick. Brain bleach, please!

690 3 wood  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:43:05pm

Surprise, surprise, the politicians are ready to cut a "bridge loan" deal with the auto makers. This will be a never ending subsidy.

Talks Between White House, Congress Could Yield $15B for Auto Industry


WASHINGTON -- Jolted by the loss of thousands of jobs, congressional Democrats and the White House reached for agreement Friday on about $15 billion in bailout loans for the beleaguered auto industry. President Bush warned that at least one of the Big Three carmakers might not survive the current economic crisis.

Several officials in both parties said the breakthrough on a long-stalled bailout came after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi bowed to Bush's demand that the aid come from a fund set aside for the production of environmentally friendlier cars. The California Democrat spoke to White House chief of staff Josh Bolten during the day to signal her change in position, they added.

The developments came as desperate auto executives pleaded for a second day with lawmakers for loans to help them survive, and the government reported the worst single month's job loss in 34 years.

Pelosi's office issued a statement saying legislation would come to a vote in the House next week. The Senate is also scheduled to be in session to consider steps to aid Detroit's Big Three.

"Congress will insist that any legislation include rigorous and ongoing oversight to guarantee that taxpayers are protected and that resources are directed to ensure the long-term viability and competitiveness of the American automobile industry," Pelosi's statement said.

I thought the UAW would get their payoff. Direct from your savings account to their pocket, via Washington.

691 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:43:30pm

OK- one more lol cat, because this one just begged to be linked to LGF

692 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:43:54pm

re: #683 mikeymom

aww cmon--i've embarrassed myself here--join the club! ( iwas married young- and no education--didnt discover "him" till i was 22! JOY JOY!)

Nope! Not going to happen mate! Not unless you feed me a six pack and some Jaegermeister! And we have to be camping!

693 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:44:13pm

re: #680 Wyatt Earp

I recognized an obvious male-bashing joke in that report, right off the bat.

694 Ojoe  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:44:21pm

re: #677 mikeymom

I am tired of seeing Obama's picture.

We have become too "People Magazine" in this country, always fawning.

"Get a life."

695 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:44:42pm

My take on Obama is that he is an arrogant bully wuss who hides from a fight - which is why he surrounds himself with the biggest loudmouths and sharpest elbowed people possible - like Rev. Wright, Michelle, and Rahm Emanuel."

696 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:45:00pm

re: #686 Steffan
Hey! I got married at 19 (41+ years ago) and she was AT LEAST as clueless as me! April will be #42 tho, some learning together hasn't been all bad. Besides, married to me she's never had to go lookin for "strange"..
/

697 JCM  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:45:24pm

Got to put kiddos to bed. later

698 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:45:45pm

re: #686 Steffan

ok steffan--after 41 yrs- i know the drill--he is 61 and has umm--who do i saw it-some dysfunction probs? i can try all i can try--but the more i try- he gets discouraged and its --ok- i said enough--enjoy the good stuff while your young

699 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:46:51pm

re: #673 picaro

In California, so called "assault rifles" (mostly anything with a detachable magazine) have been illegal for a decade. The state didn't just ban new sales, but made posession illegal. They basically gave us four options:
Destroy the rifle
Surrender the rifle to a law enforcement agency in exchange for $230
Sell the rifle to a licensed California "assault weapon" dealer
Dispose of the rifle out of state

Our then AG, who is now a local congresscritter (Dan Lungren), added SKS 10 round rifles to the ban list in 1998. He's supposedly a conservative, but I think he was posturing for the gubernatorial race that year.

[Link: www.pepperball.com...]

In CA we can't have these either.

700 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:47:27pm

re: #613 lostlakehiker

Not quite.

It's very cyclical if you chart it out, and the Old Farmer's Almanac did just that. We're in a cooling trend at the moment..

701 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:47:44pm

re: #698 mikeymom

Time of day is a big part of it. Most men are far more up for it in the morning than at night. Make hay while the sun shines, love.

702 Right mind left  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:47:44pm

re: #620 Joan

Such a sweet favorite; okay, so I'll see your Israel Kamakawiwo'ole -
and RAISE you some Fields of Gold. Definitive:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Eva Cassidy

Somewhat apropos to topic of the day, I raise your Field of Gold with the Fool on the Hill.

Youtube Video

It was Brazil 66, when 0 was not even 8 years old ...

703 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:47:54pm

re: #696 revobob

congrats! gets better dont it?

704 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:47:56pm

re: #690 3 wood

Surprise, surprise, the politicians are ready to cut a "bridge loan" deal with the auto makers. This will be a never ending subsidy.

Talks Between White House, Congress Could Yield $15B for Auto Industry


I thought the UAW would get their payoff. Direct from your savings account to their pocket, via Washington.

No one can force us to buy american - and i won't - given the fact that my money would go to the corrupt unions via the car companies and eventually end up in the pockets of dem politicans.

This is why religion failed in England and the churches are empty - religion became synonymous with the government.

I will not prop up Obama via the corrupt unions.

705 Defector01  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:48:02pm

re: #608 mikeymom

Sounds about right
last time I was in a bubblebath with a woman it didn't last that little amount of time.


Oh and being on topic with missile defense, if that's what they look like 'unproven', I'm wondering how bad ass the 'proven' variety are

706 Defector01  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:49:13pm

re: #704 DistantThunder

Deutchland Uber Alles
Pity, I really like the Ford Mustang as my first 'professionals' car but I guess it will never be

707 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:49:14pm

re: #698 mikeymom

ok steffan--after 41 yrs- i know the drill--he is 61 and has umm--who do i saw it-some dysfunction probs? i can try all i can try--but the more i try- he gets discouraged and its --ok- i said enough--enjoy the good stuff while your young

doctor and RX can help with that.

708 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:49:22pm

re: #700 Steffan

Not quite.

It's very cyclical if you chart it out, and the Old Farmer's Almanac did just that. We're in a cooling trend at the moment..

Arr, great for skiing mates! We have had a cold fall so far in the south...

709 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:51:01pm

Also people are NOT going to be taking out car loans if they feel insecure about their jobs.

710 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:51:59pm

re: #703 mikeymom
Most do, some (like what you said) don't. Good news is there's more patience and willingness to wait til the time is right. (Our 2 mini Aussies can tell- they head for the patio door to wait for the treats they get while the door is closed:)) And whichever of us is cooking is likely to actually get the meal done and eaten without getting ravished on the kitchen floor!

711 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:52:06pm

re: #694 Ojoe

I am tired of seeing Obama's picture.

We have become too "People Magazine" in this country, always fawning.

"Get a life."

It's high TIME.

712 Ojoe  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:52:09pm

re: #704 DistantThunder

We have a 1990 volvo stn. wgn. 230 k mi.

Strong car, stick; gonna drive it another 10 years.

30 mpg highway.

No US car comes close.

713 Right mind left  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:52:12pm

re: #691 Sharmuta

OK- one more lol cat, because this one just begged to be linked to LGF

Or else I will...
[Link: www.lolcatpics.com...]

nom nom nom...

714 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:52:20pm

re: #694 Ojoe

I am tired of seeing Obama's picture.

We have become too "People Magazine" in this country, always fawning.

"Get a life."

would it be considered hate speech to have a picture of obama on a bumpersticker with a red circle and line drawn through him?

715 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:53:11pm

re: #670 Steffan

You can never have too much ammo. Although at today's prices it's hard to afford much. If you can find it at all. Hopefully, that won't last. Obambi should have too many other irons in the fire to push for gun control. But at the same time, that Holder SOB Obama's appointed to AG is a big pro-gun controller. When he's not kidnapping kids and shipping them off to Cuba, or securing pardons for America's Most Wanted.

The Republicans should filibuster him.

716 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:53:41pm

re: #701 Kenneth

c mon kenneth--you think after 41 yrs-i dont know how my hubbys peter works? we take turns-and he knows how to pleasure me--and i him--my original post was about bubblebaths--and was a joke--anyone passing the baileys yet?

717 Ojoe  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:53:46pm

re: #711 Spare O'Lake

OLD life magazines were good!

And check out Life's "Picture History of World War Two", published 1950. It does not mince words, nor photos, and it calls America great.

BBL

718 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:54:27pm

re: #712 Ojoe

We have a 1990 volvo stn. wgn. 230 k mi.

Strong car, stick; gonna drive it another 10 years.

30 mpg highway.

No US car comes close.

That's another reason there are fewer cars sold - better quality means less need for replacement vehichles. Dems and Obama think they are going to wrangle us like a herd of cows - but they are in for a giant surprise.

719 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:54:36pm

Gotta go mates, duty calls. BBL I hope!

720 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:54:37pm

re: #696 revobob

I got married at 19, too. I've been divorced about 20 years, now.

721 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:55:34pm

Married 25+ years - 7 kids.

722 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:55:41pm

re: #707 DistantThunder

but as i said-- he doest want the med and i repsect that-

723 Ojoe  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:56:09pm

re: #714 DistantThunder

Yeah, no good that.

We need to be respectful, all of each other.

I never put political stickers on the car, I figure they are insulting to others.

They try to make what should be a thinking job into a popularity contest, of little brain.

People can be smarter than that.

Well gotta quit for now, see you all later.

724 picaro  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:56:29pm

re: #688 Ojoe

Only if the Winchester "looks scary":
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any ONE of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

Note that bayonets are not a characteristic of an assault weapon, so I can still own a Mosin-Nagant M44 carbine.

Here's the ban list: [Link: www.ag.ca.gov...]

725 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:56:32pm

re: #673 picaro

In California, so called "assault rifles" (mostly anything with a detachable magazine) have been illegal for a decade. The state didn't just ban new sales, but made posession illegal. They basically gave us four options:
Destroy the rifle
Surrender the rifle to a law enforcement agency in exchange for $230
Sell the rifle to a licensed California "assault weapon" dealer
Dispose of the rifle out of state

Our then AG, who is now a local congresscritter (Dan Lungren), added SKS 10 round rifles to the ban list in 1998. He's supposedly a conservative, but I think he was posturing for the gubernatorial race that year.

IIRC, that law has lapsed, though the Legislature, last I heard, is trying to revive it.

The issue was "scary-looking guns," no matter the magazine capacity. the authors of that bill knew nothing about firearms.

726 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:57:03pm

re: #722 mikeymom

but as i said-- he doest want the med and i repsect that-

Life is short. Could be a more complex problem.

727 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:57:31pm

re: #699 Bobibutu

Damn, but you've got to keep the streets safe for gangbangers, don't you? They're not just anti-gun. They are pro-criminal.

728 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:58:06pm

re: #720 Iron Fist
Yes- it surely don't work for everybody. I probably wouldn't trade her in on a newer model though...

729 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:58:07pm

re: #721 DistantThunder

you've been busy--congrats!

730 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:59:04pm

Chicago, Philly, California - Oases for criminals. (I think that is the plural of oasis)

731 picaro  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:59:16pm

re: #694 Ojoe

When we were walking to the polls, my 5 year old son told me "You vote for John McCain, not the guy with the teeth." Obama's smile frightened him!

732 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 7:59:29pm

re: #716 mikeymom

ok, ok, just trying to be helpful... but you have a better grip on the problem than I would know.

Ahem. Sorry.

733 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:00:39pm

To those BIG 3 automakers;
I just got home from work, opened the mail and there was the title for my Toyota 4Runner PAID IN FULL!
I expect to keep driving it for another 4-5 years.
Sorry I can't help Detroit out of their jam.
UAW can accept their karma. (No pun intended.)

734 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:01:01pm

re: #729 mikeymom

you've been busy--congrats!

Yes, and I'm going to be a grandmother in July - but I'm still not convinced that I am old enough to be a "grand"mother. I prefer the title: ultra-mom rather than grand-mother.

735 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:01:11pm

re: #696 revobob

Hey! I got married at 19 (41+ years ago) and she was AT LEAST as clueless as me! April will be #42 tho, some learning together hasn't been all bad. Besides, married to me she's never had to go lookin for "strange"..
/

You're definitely one of the lucky ones. Serious congrats to you both.

I see far too many of the unlucky ones at work.

736 Ojoe  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:01:12pm

re: #724 picaro

They do seem to be after the scary look.

Quite irrational.

Glad the Old West is still OK.

BBL

737 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:02:09pm

re: #725 Steffan

IIRC, that law has lapsed, though the Legislature, last I heard, is trying to revive it.

The issue was "scary-looking guns," no matter the magazine capacity. the authors of that bill knew nothing about firearms.


For me (in SoCal) one huge irony was always that the Stockton schoolyard shooting that crystallized all the "assault weapon" nonsense was done with an SKS, which was not covered by most, if any, of the assault weapon bans.

738 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:02:16pm

re: #732 Kenneth

OMG--too funny--actually, i just bought a new vacuum!

739 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:02:27pm

re: #715 Iron Fist

You can never have too much ammo. Although at today's prices it's hard to afford much. If you can find it at all. Hopefully, that won't last. Obambi should have too many other irons in the fire to push for gun control. But at the same time, that Holder SOB Obama's appointed to AG is a big pro-gun controller. When he's not kidnapping kids and shipping them off to Cuba, or securing pardons for America's Most Wanted.

The Republicans should filibuster him.

I agree but hope beyond hope the donks aren't thinking this would happen as a ploy to get Jamie Gorelick in as AG!

740 Gort  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:02:41pm

re: #731 picaro

The dazzling brightness frightens and confuses my kids too.

/I'll never look at a box of Chicklets the same way again...

741 WindHorse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:04:17pm

I am 51 and have never bought anything but an American made car - ever.

Several times, I have told myself to be loyal despite better technology.

If there is a bailout, I promise.... I will NEVER buy another American car.

Screw the onions.

742 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:04:32pm

re: #734 DistantThunder

i am sooo jealous! our oldest-31 just got married aug 1 but she is younger and wants to teach for a while--but i do have 3 grand kitties--sigh--

743 lostlakehiker  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:04:38pm

re: #641 turn

You think man is causeing gloable climate change?

Yes.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

We're burning a lot of coal.

Why wouldn't that have an effect?

744 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:04:38pm

re: #738 mikeymom
Think that'll help him get an Oreck-sion?

745 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:05:00pm

I found this card on the subway earlier this evening, plain black letters on white:

A Black Man To Save The World:
First Christ, Now Obama


Where to begin?

746 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:05:19pm

re: #737 revobob

IIRC, Stockton was a Chinese AK-47 with the red plastic stock. Not that there's really any difference when the victims are unarmed.

747 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:05:42pm

re: #698 mikeymom

ok steffan--after 41 yrs- i know the drill--he is 61 and has umm--who do i saw it-some dysfunction probs? i can try all i can try--but the more i try- he gets discouraged and its --ok- i said enough--enjoy the good stuff while your young

Young is relative -- the alternative to growing old is really depressing. I'm not that much younger than he is.

Maybe he should talk to his doctor. Better Living Through Chemistry, right?

748 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:05:54pm

re: #742 mikeymom

i am sooo jealous! our oldest-31 just got married aug 1 but she is younger and wants to teach for a while--but i do have 3 grand kitties--sigh--

There is nothing as precious as a new baby.

749 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:06:22pm

re: #745 Kenneth

Fruit punch flavored koolaid?

750 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:06:47pm

re: #744 revobob

since mandy isnt here WHACK WHACK! actually, i have a hoover

751 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:06:57pm

re: #725 Steffan

IIRC, that law has lapsed, though the Legislature, last I heard, is trying to revive it.

The issue was "scary-looking guns," no matter the magazine capacity. the authors of that bill knew nothing about firearms.

I think you mean the federal ban which expired several years ago.

752 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:07:21pm

re: #746 Iron Fist
You may be right, although as I remember AK's were not legal here even then.

753 picaro  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:07:22pm

re: #725 Steffan

It did not sunset, but has been amended. Here's the link to the handbook of firearms laws - note the list on the 14th page of the document (page 8 of the handbook). The legislators even banned the Barrett .50 after it gained fame in Afghanistan with the Marines.

ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/Cfl2007.pdf

754 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:08:22pm

re: #750 mikeymom
(Being ridiculously obvious) That sucks!
(Ducks)

755 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:09:11pm

re: #753 picaro

Because you just never know when someone's going to stick their Barrett into their back pocket and go out and knock over a liquor store.

756 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:10:06pm

re: #755 Iron Fist

Because you just never know when someone's going to stick their Barrett into their back pocket and go out and knock over a liquor store.


Well... It probably WOULD "knock over" many liquor stores!

757 DistantThunder  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:10:18pm

It must be so boring over at the Kos threads and other lib sites when they can't have an exciting discussion of favorite guns and favored ammo. They can only talk about the FEAR.

758 lifeofthemind  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:11:31pm

re: #745 Kenneth

A Black Man To Save The World:

Jesus Saves,
Moses Invests

759 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:12:34pm

re: #758 lifeofthemind

Jesus Saves,
Moses Invests

Obama Swindles

760 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:12:45pm

re: #758 lifeofthemind

Jesus Saves,
Moses Invests

RACIST!

761 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:13:07pm

re: #759 Kenneth

Obama Swindles

RACIST!

/kidding

762 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:13:14pm

re: #727 Iron Fist

Damn, but you've got to keep the streets safe for gangbangers, don't you? They're not just anti-gun. They are pro-criminal.

For the life of me I am/have been unable to comprehend their rationale.

763 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:15:01pm

re: #756 revobob

Have you ever shot one of them? Oh, boy. The one time I've gotten to play with them, we were using armor-piercing incindary tracers. I guess it was about 500 yards to what we were shooting. You had time to ride the recoil back down and watch the white flash where the bullet hit.

That's one gun control law that I don't mind too much. A .50 heavy machinegun is the biggest thing you should be able to purchase without a permit. It really is a small automatic cannon.

764 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:15:15pm

ok--i have another story--my mom had the alz for 5 yrs--diedin nursing home. my hubbys dad had the alz--we had to move him and mom to co from ny where they lived all their life--he died '05'- shes now in asst livingnear us and just turned 90. i drink and smoke--if i quit--yeah it will give me 20 more yrs --to spend in nursing home like my relatives- i want to be rode hard and out away wet--i spent yesterday with my mom in law playing cards--these folks are lonely-menatally out of it--im sorry for the rant- but it hits close to home

765 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:15:39pm

re: #718 DistantThunder

That's another reason there are fewer cars sold - better quality means less need for replacement vehichles. Dems and Obama think they are going to wrangle us like a herd of cows - but they are in for a giant surprise.

The Big Three are failing because their past successes and hence their production and marketing strategies have been based on the outdated assumption that consumers would continue to tolerate high prices, planned obsolescence and inferior products.
Maybe Congress won't simply bail them out now just to have them fail again after comrad Obama is inaugurated.

766 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:15:47pm

re: #743 lostlakehiker

Yes.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

We're burning a lot of coal.

Why wouldn't that have an effect?

It may have an effect. Pollution is one big one. I'm all for reducing pollution. But to say man-made carbon dioxide emission is the sole cause of global warming is not taking into consideration all of the facts.

Global warming is bad why?

767 picaro  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:16:10pm

re: #756 revobob

Yeah, from a mile away!

Our local newsrag ran a piece about the BMG .50 in 2000 with a tagline to the effect that it can shoot through several houses or an engine block. Their main point was that no one needs it because "it's not a hunting rifle!"
At the time, I was tempted to get one just because I knew they would ban it too.

768 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:16:30pm

re: #715 Iron Fist

You can never have too much ammo. Although at today's prices it's hard to afford much. If you can find it at all. Hopefully, that won't last. Obambi should have too many other irons in the fire to push for gun control. But at the same time, that Holder SOB Obama's appointed to AG is a big pro-gun controller. When he's not kidnapping kids and shipping them off to Cuba, or securing pardons for America's Most Wanted.

The Republicans should filibuster him.

Sportsman's Guide has it in bulk, though a lot of it is Russian and corrosive. Caveat emptor.

I'm looking forward to Holder's confirmation hearings. The skeletons in his closet, if the Republicans on the committee don't roll over for him (a big if, I admit), will dance and sing karaoke.

I can dream, right?

769 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:17:16pm

re: #762 Bobibutu

It all makes sense if you start with the thought that they are totalitarian wannabes. Once you grant that they are malevolent in their intent a lot of seemingly inexplicable behavior falls into place.

770 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:17:23pm

Star Wars vs Star Trek

771 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:19:13pm

re: #768 Steffan

I think we are going to learn a lot about the Republicans next year. I hope they'll grow a pair of testicals and quit being the Democrats prison bitch.

772 WindHorse  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:19:29pm

re: #764 mikeymom

Keep smiling.

773 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:20:29pm

Earthquake.

Slow roller

774 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:20:51pm

re: #762 Bobibutu

For the life of me I am/have been unable to comprehend their rationale.

It's funny how public opinion works with LE. 'Me employers police department came under criticism after several drug addled perps died after being tazered and overheated from the drugs and Tazer hits. Then our guys in blue killed a dozen perps last year after their tazers were taken away and came under even harsher criticism for excessive force. Now the department has approved plans to buy 1000 tazers with confiscated drug money. Sort of like the EPA banning pepper spray against Grizzlies so everyone went back to the old standby of the .357 magnum.

775 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:21:15pm

Quake in CA?

776 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:21:21pm

re: #763 Iron Fist
Couple years ago at Raahauge's in Norco, at the annual SCI shooting fair, a friend of mine who goes about 135lbs in his black jacket and chains paid for a couple of bullets at (I think) Barrett's booth. Went prone with the bipod, lit it off, and he and the gun ended up about 1 foot back from where they started! Now, he is all wire and gristle- 60+ former biker, speed and whiskey drinker, but he gave his remaining tickets away to spectators. I don't believe it would have moved me like that- I go better than 2 of him, but it looked like something that would be hard to enjoy a lot. I passed on it. (A man's got to know his limitations!)

777 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:21:48pm

re: #775 Thanos

Quake in CA?

Yes

778 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:21:54pm

re: #764 mikeymom

Have you read this?

Elder Rage, or Take My Father... Please!: How to Survive Caring for Aging Parents (Paperback)
by Jacqueline Marcell (Author), Dementia Specialist Dr. Rodman Shankle (Afterword)

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

I give a copy to all my clients.

779 lifeofthemind  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:22:07pm

re: #761 Dark_Falcon

RACIST!

/kidding


Does this mean I get to go on Oprah and "Grow" in a really teary way?

780 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:22:21pm

2.5

Tiny.

781 Thanos  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:22:24pm

re: #777 Racer X

Yes

Anyone know location or magnitude yet?

782 picaro  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:22:53pm

re: #763 Iron Fist

The Barrett .50 is not a machine gun, as in the .50 cal Browning Machine Gun. California banned all .50 rifles effective 1/1/2005, even the bolt action ones. Example: [Link: www.50bmgstore.com...]

783 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:23:07pm

re: #773 Racer X
Looonnng slow roller!

784 legalpad  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:23:10pm

re: #764 mikeymom

i drink and smoke--if i quit--yeah it will give me 20 more yrs --to spend in nursing home like my relatives

Not necessarily. There are ways to combat Alzheimers.

785 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:23:25pm

nope.

5.5

Not so tiny

786 Rancher  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:23:49pm

re: #715 Iron Fist

You can never have too much ammo. Although at today's prices it's hard to afford much. If you can find it at all. Hopefully, that won't last. Obambi should have too many other irons in the fire to push for gun control. But at the same time, that Holder SOB Obama's appointed to AG is a big pro-gun controller. When he's not kidnapping kids and shipping them off to Cuba, or securing pardons for America's Most Wanted.

The Republicans should filibuster him.


I've news for you, the Republicans won't fillibuster anything, too many RINOs.

Real Rancher

787 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:24:31pm

re: #783 revobob

Looonnng slow roller!

Yep - it was centered out in the desert. A bit away from me.

788 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:24:55pm

re: #734 DistantThunder

Yes, and I'm going to be a grandmother in July - but I'm still not convinced that I am old enough to be a "grand"mother. I prefer the title: ultra-mom rather than grand-mother.

Hey, I'm still trying to absorb the idea that the cute cheerleader I used to sit next to in English class is a grandmother.

789 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:24:56pm

re: #785 Racer X

nope.

5.5

Not so tiny

Where in CA?

790 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:25:19pm

Regarding the "Big Three":

There's no way they all survive and no guarantee that any of them survive. It's a bayonet thrust to American manufacturing and a legitimate national security issue. You think unemployment is bad now? The trickle down from one or more of these companies will result in a cascade of supplier failures and up to three million more jobs lost. All that said, it's arrogant Detroit's, with a big shove from the UAW, own fault and this has been brewing for decades. Compete or lose.

So, whatever happens next, there's going to be a lot more pain.

/you gots to ask yourself, do you want to get it over with in the next three weeks or do you want to stretch out the agony?

791 Summersong  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:25:34pm

re: #741 WindHorse

Screw the onions? Waaaa?

792 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:25:34pm

re: #789 Spare O'Lake

Where in CA?

Near Barstow.

793 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:25:44pm

re: #772 WindHorse

Keep smiling.

i alwyays do my friend-- and with that, im gonna cuddle my sleeping hubby and cat- bless you all and prayers to all on g0desses prayer list

794 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:26:45pm

About 70 miles East of the San Andreas fault.

795 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:26:59pm

Whoa- where is UTC time zone? That says the quake is gonna happen at 4:26 on Sat. Dec. 6! Is this foreshadowing foreshocking?
/

796 Summersong  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:27:30pm

re: #773 Racer X

Earthquake.

Slow roller

L.A.?

797 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:27:34pm

re: #741 WindHorse

I am 51 and have never bought anything but an American made car - ever.

Several times, I have told myself to be loyal despite better technology.

If there is a bailout, I promise.... I will NEVER buy another American car.

Screw the onions.

I'm currently driving a '90 Chevy pickup. That was when they knew how to build trucks.

I expect to drive it until it falls apart. My next car may be a bicycle -- I live a mile from work and less than that to major shopping.

798 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:27:48pm

re: #776 revobob

Oh, no, a Barrett doesn't have as bad a recoil as a lot of 12 ga. It's more of a hard push than a sharp kick. What sucked was to be standing in the path of the blast from the muzzlebrake. That was loud.

799 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:27:50pm

re: #782 picaro

The Barrett .50 is not a machine gun, as in the .50 cal Browning Machine Gun. California banned all .50 rifles effective 1/1/2005, even the bolt action ones. Example: [Link: www.50bmgstore.com...]

A .50 sniper rifle is a mite heavy for hunting anything except people, so CA might be justified in the ban. The Geneva convention specifies the .50 machine gun is not to be used against personnel but against vehicles and objects. Over the last two decades the US threw that rule out the window. The Ma Deuce is just to effective a weapon to give up mates.

800 Promethea  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:28:03pm

re: #608 mikeymom

well what the heck is up with men and bubblebaths? mikeydad and i went out to dinner tonight in cold colorado. had a fab dinner and wine, and on the way home i axed him if he wanted a nice hot bubblebath to warm up and set the stage for a preliminary 41st anniv (next tues) celebration! he says sure--so i made a nice bubbly bath, candles, gas fireplace, and a glass of ammaretto! he gets in--sits for 5 min--gets out and say--"DONE" soooo- iget in the bath with more wine and a book- and by the time i get out, he's sound asleep-snoring with the cat-see my avatar--so i put away the slinky gown and am now in my sweats talking to youse guys on lgf! something is wrong here!

It looks like you've had a long and happy marriage, so enjoy!

And congratulations on your anniversary.

801 picaro  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:28:45pm

re: #781 Thanos

A 5.5 less than 10 minutes ago in the Mojave Desert east of Barstow. It's over 300 miles from here, so we felt nothing.

802 Kenneth  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:28:51pm

re: #743 lostlakehiker

What is the amount of CO2 released to the atmosphere by human activity?
What is the amount of CO2 released to the atmosphere by non-human activity?
What is the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere?
What are the rates of CO2 re-uptake by all the various processes?
What is the contribution to temperature increase per unit increase of CO2?
What is the mechanism of that contribution?
What is the contribution to temperature increase by non-CO2 causes?
Why does the data show the change in average earth temperature does not follow the CO2 level but rather leads it?

When you ask enough questions, the answers become less certain. The science is not done. The matter is far from settled.

803 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:29:34pm

re: #801 picaro

A 5.5 less than 10 minutes ago in the Mojave Desert east of Barstow. It's over 300 miles from here, so we felt nothing.

There goes site 51!

804 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:29:48pm

Hey y'all - figured at 700+ comments I'd get on board so Charles will put up another thread! LOL!
So what are we talking about tonight?

805 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:30:12pm

re: #799 LoFlyer

A .50 sniper rifle is a mite heavy for hunting anything except people, so CA might be justified in the ban. The Geneva convention specifies the .50 machine gun is not to be used against personnel but against vehicles and objects. Over the last two decades the US threw that rule out the window. The Ma Deuce is just to effective a weapon to give up mates.

They were aiming at belt buckles.

"Equipment"

806 Summersong  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:30:28pm

re: #801 picaro

A 5.5 less than 10 minutes ago in the Mojave Desert east of Barstow. It's over 300 miles from here, so we felt nothing.

Nuttin here in the OC.

807 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:30:32pm

re: #798 Iron Fist

Oh, no, a Barrett doesn't have as bad a recoil as a lot of 12 ga. It's more of a hard push than a sharp kick. What sucked was to be standing in the path of the blast from the muzzlebrake. That was loud.


And people bitch about the comp on my .38 Super! The push was actually more impressive that a "kick"- it just gently slid him back. Takes a fair amount of energy to do that.

808 mikeymom  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:30:36pm

re: #800 Promethea

i am blessed--and pray that all lizards are too-weet dreams all

809 Summersong  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:30:48pm

5.5 quite large.

810 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:31:07pm

re: #743 lostlakehiker

Yes.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

We're burning a lot of coal.

Why wouldn't that have an effect?

We've been burning a lot of coal for the last 400 years. This didn't keep the MSM from declaring a New Ice Age 30 years ago.

Global warming is cyclical, and it's more than likely heliocentric as opposed to anthropocentric.

Did you look at the timeline on the link I posted upthread?

811 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:31:15pm

re: #774 LoFlyer

It's funny how public opinion works with LE.

Yep - dammed if they do or don't.

Then I could go on a long rant about the politics of numbers and District Attorneys "deals" with perps - turning them back out on the streets while counting it as a conviction. - So the numbers look good for reelection. Drives LEOs/and law abiding citizens nuts.

But I won't.

812 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:31:37pm

re: #803 LoFlyer

There goes site 51!

Closer to Ft. Irwin

813 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:31:46pm

re: #805 Noam Sayin'

They were aiming at belt buckles.

"Equipment"

Right on, mate!

814 picaro  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:32:09pm

re: #804 realwest

Pretty much anything but missile defense by now. We created our own open thread while Charles is away(?)

815 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:32:11pm

re: #782 picaro

I know the Barrett isn't a machinegun. That is just where I'd draw the limit. Semi-auto is cool, too. Gun controlers keep wanting me to compromise, well, that is my compromise.

816 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:33:39pm

re: #805 Noam Sayin'
Hey Noam - how are you doing tonight - I like the way you "interpret" our evasion use of the Ma Duece rules!

817 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:33:47pm

re: #769 Iron Fist

It all makes sense if you start with the thought that they are totalitarian wannabes. Once you grant that they are malevolent in their intent a lot of seemingly inexplicable behavior falls into place.

Yeah - but it just doesn't fit into my belief system. And good point.

818 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:33:48pm

Evening Real how are you doing this beautiful evening? (If you don't believe me then go out your front door and look up!)

819 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:33:50pm

re: #799 LoFlyer

A .50 sniper rifle is a mite heavy for hunting anything except people, so CA might be justified in the ban. The Geneva convention specifies the .50 machine gun is not to be used against personnel but against vehicles and objects. Over the last two decades the US threw that rule out the window. The Ma Deuce is just to effective a weapon to give up mates.


There is small but enthusiastic group that takes pleasure in poking holes in paper from about 1000 yards away. With the investment that any such rifle represents, with the attendant ammo and gear, the folks who buy them are NOT going to do anything that would get their toys taken away, so CA is not justified!

820 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:33:52pm

The Real Bill Ayers

/an op-ed By WILLIAM AYERS, in the NYT

821 lifeofthemind  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:34:08pm

re: #786 Rancher

I've news for you, the Republicans won't fillibuster anything, too many RINOs.

Real Rancher

True words while I am happy that Franken isn't pouring acid on our wounds the practicle result is that there is no filibuster threat. We have a on party gov't from the extreme left and the SCOTUS is gone for the next twenty years. Anything can happen.

Saw some lizards were going on about the Armed Forces and Posse Comitatus before. Smell the coffee and stop wasting time with delusions. People wasted time going on about how PA or Carolina or Ohio would "never" vote for BO. It wasn't all fraud and it happened. There is an almost total information lockdown from the left. The armed forces will obey orders, law enforcement will obey orders, any people who think that reviving 1990's militia groups is an answer are simply deranged. Withdrawing into the hills or withdrawing into self pity is not the answer. Get out and get involved in your communities, your schoolboards and your local, not global world policy programs, but local life and politics.

822 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:35:26pm

re: #819 revobob

There is small but enthusiastic group that takes pleasure in poking holes in paper from about 1000 yards away. With the investment that any such rifle represents, with the attendant ammo and gear, the folks who buy them are NOT going to do anything that would get their toys taken away, so CA is not justified!

Your opinion is justified. And I like 'me toys too!

823 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:35:32pm

re: #802 Kenneth

I've always felt that, at 150 years or so of good, hard data - and much of that early data must less accurate than we have today - that the "data sample" is far too small from which to make a hypothesis.

In short, we shouldn't even be talking about anthropogenic global warming. It's a f*cking canard.

But I'm all for polluting less, which America, far more than any other country, has been doing for the last 30+ years.

I mean, really. When's the last time one of our rivers caught fire?

824 slokat  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:35:45pm

Earthquake map ---> USGS

825 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:35:47pm

re: #814 picaro
Ah, the ole while the Giant Lizard is away, the smaller lizards will play, hey? Course, in honor of Kenneth and our other Canadian lizards I should say "eh?"!

826 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:35:51pm

re: #806 Summersong

Nuttin here in the OC.

Au contaire! I'm in Placentia (North OC) and got rolled around very noticeably. My typing is now being hindered by both dogs trying to be closer to me!

827 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:36:07pm

Tonight seems to be my night for finding things that I want that I can't afford. As example 2, I give you H&K 21 in semi-automatic. The full auto 21s tend to beat themselves to death, but I'd think that the semi wouldn't have that problem. Anybody know where I can score ten grand quick?

:-)

828 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:36:23pm

re: #773 Racer X

Earthquake.

Slow roller

We live in OC. My hubby felt the quake, I did not.

829 solomonpanting  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:36:28pm

re: #795 revobob

Whoa- where is UTC time zone? That says the quake is gonna happen at 4:26 on Sat. Dec. 6! Is this foreshadowing foreshocking?
/

California is in time zone 8, or the UTC, in Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), plus 8 hours.

830 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:36:53pm

re: #804 realwest

Hey y'all - figured at 700+ comments I'd get on board so Charles will put up another thread! LOL!
So what are we talking about tonight?

Guess we could re-hunt Charlie if you're up to it.

831 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:37:02pm

re: #814 picaro

Pretty much anything but missile defense by now. We created our own open thread while Charles is away(?)

Doesn't that happen most every night? :)

832 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:37:07pm

re: #818 LoFlyer
I'd rather believe you my friend - it's too damn cold to go out and look at the stars! LOL! (32 here now, going down into the 20's later)!

833 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:38:14pm

re: #816 realwest

Hey Noam - how are you doing tonight - I like the way you "interpret" our evasion use of the Ma Duece rules!

I think I read that here a long time ago, before I became a lizard.

834 Summersong  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:38:17pm

re: #826 revobob

Au contaire! I'm in Placentia (North OC) and got rolled around very noticeably. My typing is now being hindered by both dogs trying to be closer to me!

Oh! I'm south OC and didn't feel a thing. Poor pups :(

835 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:38:17pm

re: #820 Killian Bundy

The Real Bill Ayers

/an op-ed By WILLIAM AYERS, in the NYT

Man is that guy still a POS or what?

836 picaro  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:38:18pm

re: #805 Noam Sayin'

Right on!

The 'hunting' argument is what the gun grabbers use to erode our rights. The 2nd Amendment was originally understood to mean military grade arms, since both soldiers and farmers used muskets in the 1790s. A well armed public would be a deterrent to a tyrrany. Now, civilians are relegated to a second class status for firearms.

837 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:38:44pm

re: #797 Steffan

I'm currently driving a '90 Chevy pickup. That was when they knew how to build trucks.

I expect to drive it until it falls apart. My next car may be a bicycle -- I live a mile from work and less than that to major shopping.

How do you bring groceries home on a bike?

838 legalpad  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:38:54pm

re: #821 lifeofthemind

Yep. And get clear enough on issues to help center the party on rational policies.

839 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:39:13pm
840 Racer X  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:39:36pm

re: #820 Killian Bundy

The Real Bill Ayers

/an op-ed By WILLIAM AYERS, in the NYT

Excuse after excuse. This guy is a fool who believes his own lies.

841 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:39:48pm

re: #781 Thanos

Anyone know location or magnitude yet?

USGS lists it as 5.5; equidistant between Barstow and Bagdad, CA.

That's the desert, Riverside County, more or less. See here for USGS data.

842 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:39:52pm

Or if that isn't your cup of tea, how about a little anti-aircraft emplacement? Like I said earlier, a hundred grand is just a good start.

843 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:40:21pm

re: #823 Noam Sayin'

I've always felt that, at 150 years or so of good, hard data - and much of that early data must less accurate than we have today - that the "data sample" is far too small from which to make a hypothesis.

In short, we shouldn't even be talking about anthropogenic global warming. It's a f*cking canard.

But I'm all for polluting less, which America, far more than any other country, has been doing for the last 30+ years.

I mean, really. When's the last time one of our rivers caught fire?

I thought China's out-paced us.

844 Ozark Mountain Daredevil[deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:40:35pm
845 realwest  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:40:56pm

re: #830 Bobibutu
Charlie? Charlie? No, no, no it's always Charles! LOL!
Well we could talk about igloo white I suppose, but don't know how many of us are out here (and technically I wasn't part of igloo white, just basically same AO and time line as TFK, iirc!).

846 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:41:23pm

re: #837 MandyManners

How do you bring groceries home on a bike?

[Link: projecthdesign.com...]

847 MikeySDCA  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:41:24pm

Since nothing is OT now, does anyone appreciate the irony of BO bringing Richardson into the Cabinet? Richardson is Hispanic because his mother is Hispanic. Doesn't that make BO White?

848 avspatti  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:41:56pm

re: #637 USBeast

You've made the rest of us sick, too. ;)

849 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:42:24pm

re: #820 Killian Bundy

The Real Bill Ayers

/an op-ed By WILLIAM AYERS, in the NYT

VERY interesting! Funny, this never came out months before the election! Our faithful MSM loyally throwing the election for Obama..
/Truly sux mates...

850 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:42:49pm

re: #836 picaro

Now, civilians are relegated to a second class status for firearms.

Not me.

Now, what's with that up-ding of Nightwatch's childish dig on me last night?

851 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:43:37pm

re: #845 realwest

Charlie? Charlie? No, no, no it's always Charles! LOL!
Well we could talk about igloo white I suppose, but don't know how many of us are out here (and technically I wasn't part of igloo white, just basically same AO and time line as TFK, iirc!).

Well if you have had burning questions all these years - still unanswered - fire away.

852 lifeofthemind  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:43:49pm

re: #844 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Congratulations, lunch is on you.

853 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:44:25pm

re: #846 Bobibutu

[Link: projecthdesign.com...]

One bump and your eggs are scrambled.

854 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:44:30pm

re: #846 Bobibutu

[Link: projecthdesign.com...]

Paniers. I know, I have them.

855 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:44:35pm

re: #839 ploome hineni

Liqueurs (like coffee liqueur or creme de menthe) work well for coughs ~ and no, I don't mean downing the whole bottle. :)

The sugar and the alcohol have a calming effect on the throat. Prop yourself up against a few pillows and don't lay flat.

When all else fails, cough medicine w/ codeine or 1/2 a vicodin pill does the trick.

Hope you're feeling better soon!

856 cincinnati_kid37  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:44:59pm

Actually, the questionable part of missile defense gets serious when you start talking about multiple warhead missiles, especially in large numbers and also employing decoys.

Multiple warheads are deployed from the host missile on the way down - the most difficult time of interception.

Granted we wouldn't expect this from Iran, but Russia is a different story.

857 picaro  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:45:20pm

re: #819 revobob

And some of us just like to restore and display mount relics (without bolt or firing pin of course). I don't have ammo and have never fired a handgun. The last time I fired a rifle was in 1978. Maybe that should change.

858 revobob  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:45:21pm

re: #836 picaro

Right on!

The 'hunting' argument is what the gun grabbers use to erode our rights. The 2nd Amendment was originally understood to mean military grade arms, since both soldiers and farmers used muskets in the 1790s. A well armed public would be a deterrent to a tyrrany. Now, civilians are relegated to a second class status for firearms.

I am pretty much convinced that even for an armed populace, the chance of effective alteration of an overbearing government is unlikely because of the difficulty of communicating and coordinating any real action. Ironic too that one of the biggest obstacles would probably be the 'Patriot Act'. A bunch of small local groups might be able to effect change in a limited local area but unless the action was widespread and well coordinated the end result would just be a lot of dead 'gun nuts'. IMHO

859 saberry0530  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:45:37pm

Good night all, 5:30 comes early.

860 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:45:38pm

re: #853 MandyManners

One bump and your eggs are scrambled.

Never, in my experience.

861 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:45:40pm

re: #850 Noam Sayin'

Not me.

Now, what's with that up-ding of Nightwatch's childish dig on me last night?

Someone picking on you? Want me to beat him up?

862 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:45:53pm

re: #844 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Lots of HA HA HA HAs and an upding for you!

863 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:46:05pm

re: #853 MandyManners

One bump and your eggs are scrambled.

a softer version ;-)

[Link: aistigave.hit.bg...]

864 LoFlyer  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:46:07pm

re: #832 realwest

I'd rather believe you my friend - it's too damn cold to go out and look at the stars! LOL! (32 here now, going down into the 20's later)!

Arrr, throw on a sweatshirt and a down vest, go outside and take a look up. Much better than anything I can describe. Now I am going to be a lowlife and crank up a new video game and trash a few NOD. Later mates!

865 MikeySDCA  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:46:39pm

re: #856 cincinnati_kid37

If we're talking about Russia, all bets are off.

866 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:46:42pm

re: #855 poopeedoo

Liqueurs (like coffee liqueur or creme de menthe) work well for coughs ~ and no, I don't mean downing the whole bottle. :)

The sugar and the alcohol have a calming effect on the throat. Prop yourself up against a few pillows and don't lay flat.

When all else fails, cough medicine w/ codeine or 1/2 a vicodin pill does the trick.

Hope you're feeling better soon!

When all else fails, go to Emergency. They give you this breathing treatment, and - assuming you don't end up hospitalized - you feel a lot better.

867 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:47:08pm

re: #854 Dianna

Paniers. I know, I have them.

And you bicycle with them? I know - packin' your ammo to the range?

868 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:47:14pm

re: #856 cincinnati_kid37

It's best if you kill them when their boosting to orbit. What we need are layered defenses to try to kill the weapons in all phases. We're never going to get there with the Democrats in charge.

869 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:47:14pm

re: #771 Iron Fist

I think we are going to learn a lot about the Republicans next year. I hope they'll grow a pair of testicals and quit being the Democrats prison bitch.

Like I said, we can dream. Thanks to Saxby Chambliss, the Dems don't have the filibuster-proof supermajority they were looking for.... and if certain RINOs don't cave (GAZE on Olympia Snowe), they won't get as much done as they're threatening.

We'll have to wait and see. And chew our fingernails to our armpits. And invest in more ammunition (I agree, never a bad thing, no matter the political climate).

870 poopeedoo  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:47:19pm

re: #845 realwest

Ok, I'll bite... what's igloo white?

871 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:48:06pm
872 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:48:15pm

re: #860 Dianna

Never, in my experience.

I was talking about that thing looking like it would topple.

873 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:48:53pm

re: #863 Bobibutu

a softer version ;-)

[Link: aistigave.hit.bg...]

She's having fun.

874 Steffan  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:48:56pm

re: #776 revobob

What in heck was he shooting?

875 Bobibutu  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:49:07pm

re: #870 poopeedoo

Ok, I'll bite... what's igloo white?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Massive covert op during the VN war.

876 lifeofthemind  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:49:13pm

Fact is that with strategic weapons the more you have the safer everyone is. The big threat is a temptation for an enemy to attempt a decapitating 1st strike. multiple redundant and survivable systems are much safer. The only exception is primitave places that have inadequate security. We were much safer 25 years ago when we had twice as many weapons.

877 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:49:19pm
878 Dianna  Fri, Dec 5, 2008 8:49:27pm