What are you testing

hope your test goes well -

Good Morning everyone...having a really hard time posting this morning. No load.

Old office joke. Send an anonymous print job that says

test
tickle

And let someone pick it up and walk around asking who's test tickle (testicle) this is.

Works fine. OJ still going to jail.

Good morning...

The wide expanse of an open thread...

Oh no, another test and I didn't study for it!

YEA CHARLES - posting comments works just fine now, THANKEW!

And as I just said on the prior thread, I really gotta go now and get some chores done. Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

re: #9 realwest

YEA CHARLES - posting comments works just fine now, THANKEW!

He found some hamsters in the back room, smoking.

re: #10 realwest

And as I just said on the prior thread, I really gotta go now and get some chores done. Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Take it easy my friend... ;)

test

re: #11 jcm

He found some hamsters in the back room, smoking.

Smoking... Is that what they call it these days? In my day it was called something entirely different... ;p

Thanks, Charles!

A test? I was told there would be no math involved.

what ever you did Charles, it's working.
:-)

re: #14 doriangrey

Smoking... Is that what they call it these days? In my day it was called something entirely different... ;p

The smoking comes after that...

Heard yesterday:

Delmar Avenue in St. Louis to be renamed Obama Blvd.

re: #5 lesbianrainforest

Works fine. OJ still going to jail.

Yeah...and BHO is still going to be read in on January 20th. I guess that's one of those 'good balances bad' deals...

re: #14 doriangrey

Smoking... Is that what they call it these days? In my day it was called something entirely different... ;p

No, no Dorian.
That is now perfectly legal to carry out in full view of the public, ala B Clinton.

It really is smoking that is such an awful, such a heinous crime, that it must be hidden from view.

re: #18 jcm

The smoking comes after that...

Too much friction has been know to cause smoke... lol...lol...lol...

re: #19 jamgarr

Heard yesterday:

Delmar Avenue in St. Louis to be renamed Obama Blvd.

Oh, my stars! I read here the other day that a county in Alabama (Georgia?) has named a paid holiday for him for government employees.

...as long as the test doesn't involve peeing into a cup!

re: #16 doppelganglander

A test? I was told there would be no math involved.

Recovered from the permanent records, doppelganglander's math test...

re: #19 jamgarr

Heard yesterday:

Delmar Avenue in St. Louis to be renamed Obama Blvd.

Doesn't that road start from nowhere and end up in the river?

At dinner the other evening with the kids and the boy's GF - In the bar eating tapas and drinking sangria. The wife and the GF light up. Turtle neck and shrew at the next table go into a passive-aggressive fit! What a world!

re: #27 jamgarr

At dinner the other evening with the kids and the boy's GF - In the bar eating tapas and drinking sangria. The wife and the GF light up. Turtle neck and shrew at the next table go into a passive-aggressive fit! What a world!

At least they could light up. In Minnesota the only place you can smoke is either outside or at home (but I hear that may become illegal too, shortly!)

re: #19 jamgarr

Heard yesterday:

Delmar Avenue in St. Louis to be renamed Obama Blvd.

Sigh...New Zealand looks more attractive daily...

Well I will never say the number that comes before second.

re: #28 96RoadKing

At least they could light up. In Minnesota the only place you can smoke is either outside or at home (but I hear that may become illegal too, shortly!)

Yep, smoking is fast becoming an outdoor sport. Here in Springfield, IL they whine if you smoke outside TOO CLOSE to a building!

re: #25 jcm

Recovered from the permanent records, doppelganglander's math test...

Hmmm, looks a lot like a paper I once turned in in my physics class... Opp's did I just post that?

Test

re: #31 Taqyia2Me

Yep, smoking is fast becoming an outdoor sport. Here in Springfield, IL they whine if you smoke outside TOO CLOSE to a building!

In a couple of years, you won't be able to eat a Big Mac close to a building.

re: #28 96RoadKing

At least they could light up. In Minnesota the only place you can smoke is either outside or at home (but I hear that may become illegal too, shortly!)

Minnesota land of 10,000 treatment centers and liberal loons!

re: #33 joker23

Test

Be careful... Stinky is watching for cheaters...

re: #28 96RoadKing

I believe that has been done in CalFornya. Outside smoking banned if it bothers a neighbor-inside smoking banned for homes with children. Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness-but only if it is on the Liberal Agenda!

Just sayin':

To follow the tradition established by the MLK naming spree shouldn't it be Barrack Hussein Obama Blvd?

re: #36 doriangrey

Be careful... Stinky is watching for cheaters...

Quickly hiding crib notes...

re: #31 Taqyia2Me

Yep, smoking is fast becoming an outdoor sport. Here in Springfield, IL they whine if you smoke outside TOO CLOSE to a building!

I hear ya! One of the funniest (?) things I see here during the winter is when driving by a Hospital: seeing staff and ambulatory patients outside an entrance trying to suck down some nicotine before the frostbite gets too bad!

re: #28 96RoadKing

At least they could light up. In Minnesota the only place you can smoke is either outside or at home (but I hear that may become illegal too, shortly!)

Minnesota, the state where nothing is allowed.

re: #31 Taqyia2Me

Yep, smoking is fast becoming an outdoor sport. Here in Springfield, IL they whine if you smoke outside TOO CLOSE to a building!

That's nothing... Here in Cali we have a city (El Cajon, California) that banned smoking anywhere in the city... Even in your own house or car...

re: #35 Dustyvet

Minnesota land of 10,000 treatment centers and liberal loons!

I prefer the phrase: Minnesota -- Where absolutely nothing is allowed!

Cast off the shackles of spinning ballitude!
We are free, free, free!

Future of coalition, Dion's leadership uncertain

As members of Parliament head back to their ridings to explain the recent political machinations, the fate of a Liberal-NDP coalition appears to be up in the air, and questions swirl over the leadership of Stéphane Dion.

Dion is gone. The only thing uncertain is when.

re: #37 Pietr
But a "joint" is probably OK. And sex in public.

re: #42 doriangrey

That's nothing... Here in Cali we have a city (El Cajon, California) that banned smoking anywhere in the city... Even in your own house or car...

Unless it's herb?

re: #43 96RoadKing

I prefer the phrase: Minnesota -- Where absolutely nothing is allowed!

So much for Minnesota Nice eh?...:)

re: #47 96RoadKing

Unless it's herb?

Nope... Not even herb... They banned ALL smoking...

Good Morning, mighty Lizard Nation.
I saw the best animal video ever this morning. A zoo in Turkey has a walrus that plays sax & dances the Mambo.
FNC had it & i expect it to be all over.
Ya gotta see this.

Well, I have to put up Christmas lights today...:(

re: #49 doriangrey

Nope... Not even herb... They banned ALL smoking...

But if you could mainline nicotine they'd supply the needles!

Ok - I don't know if this was working on the last thread, since I was having problems with seeing the comments, so, here again, my little rant for this morning...

What I find most interesting, with all these hand outs, bail outs, shout outs and get the fuck outs, that it doesn't seem to be doing anything that the "experts" and the politicians are saying it should do.

Daily now, we are seeing articles and news reports about layoffs, downsizing, cutting this and cutting that. Diller, the ex-Hollywood big chief, even trashed American business for cutting staff even though they didn't even have too, just to take advantage of picking up a few extra bucks during this "crisis."

All I see is (as TFK would call them) the Evil Money Cult taking total advantage of us and the government. People are going to loose jobs, retirement plans, plans they have been making for all their life, while the Evil Money Cult fattens their bankroll and softens their fat asses even more than they are now.

This is really criminal. And you know, there doesn't seem to be much outcry about it. That is the tragedy at the bottom of this whole thing. We don't seem to care enough to do anything about it.

Do you know why? Because that's exactly what they have been grooming us for for years, to be the placid, quiet little sheep, while they rape us, body and soul.

Folks, we are being taken for the final ride around the block.

re: #51 Maximu§

Well, I have to put up Christmas lights today...:(

Don't be a Clark Griswold... lol...lol...lol...

re: #25 jcm

Recovered from the permanent records, doppelganglander's math test...

You have no idea how accurate that is.

Mornin! Lizards of the world, rejoice, we have the "One"!

re: #51 Maximu§

Well, I have to put up Christmas lights today...:(

Christmas is the time when people put so many bulbs on the outside of their houses, you don't know if they're celebrating the birth of Jesus or General Electric.

I live in Turkey. I think most Turkish males come from their mother's womb with a cigarette in one hand and a cellphone in the other. Although, there has been a ban on smoking in public places passed, I have yet to see it truly enforced. My students still smoke in the hallways. People still smoke in restaurants etc etc. I can't say I blame them for not wanting to smoke outside in the rain.
I smoke about 2 packs a week. Thats maybe 5 a day give or take my stress level . Compared to the pack and a half a day of marlboro red cowboy killers I used to smoke, I think this is an acceptable balance. I'm smoking lights these days because I want to die slower.
It cracks me up when people whine and cry about smoking here, yet feel free to blaze up their coal stoves and cars.There are people care less about the chemicals and fats from the various junkfoods that they put in their bodies yet they feel so concerned about what I do to mine.
I used to work with an elderly hippie pothead who whined nonstop about cigarette smokers, yet felt no guilt about blazing up the ganja. To me, smoking is smoking. I do enjoy a smoke when I drink (I tend to smoke more). I usually smoke in a restaurant without asking permission or where there are no areas for smokers . I do understand how to be a polite smoker. Still, I find it twisted that in many parts of the world now, smoking in bars and pubs is banned.
I can buy an AK-47 in the states and get a license to carry a gun around concealed in my jacket but I can't smoke a cigarette in a bar ? When I was in the military, I had to take the anthrax injections and nbc medication which weren't even tested fully before being put into circulation.. however, I'm not allowed to smoke indoors. There's something very twisted about this. They tell me I'm disposable yet condemn me for what I do for my body.
I feel that the best form of government is the least form of government. Since the US has no state sponsored healthcare (at least that I will be eligible for when I come of age.. if it still exists), why the heck should the government care about how much and where I smoke or drink as long as I do it in a responsible manner?
I dont recall the left being so concerned about the 0-face's admitted marijuana and coke use, or Ted Kennedy's drinking problem.

re: #24 Taqyia2Me

...as long as the test doesn't involve peeing into a cup!

Bad aim?

re: #53 Walter L. Newton

I would also argue that the big government elitists (donks and RINOs) and hedgefund Soros types are all one in the same and doing quite nicely, asset-wise right now, thankyouverymuch.

Christmas in Los Angeles is always interesting. Seeing carolers dressed in Bermuda shorts...groping their way through the smog singing: "It came upon a midnight clear."

re: #37 Pietr

I believe that has been done in CalFornya. Outside smoking banned if it bothers a neighbor-inside smoking banned for homes with children. Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness-but only if it is on the Liberal Agenda!

I wanna' see them ban drinking Chardonnay in homes with kids.

re: #59 MandyManners

Bad aim?

Oh, that too, besides bad results!

re: #42 doriangrey

That's nothing... Here in Cali we have a city (El Cajon, California) that banned smoking anywhere in the city... Even in your own house or car...

How can they do that? Has it been challenged?

re: #53 Walter L. Newton

Don't worry. We will survive, we will adapt. It is a push and pull throughout history. Somebody posted this last night.

re: #48 Dustyvet

So much for Minnesota Nice eh?...:)

That 'Minnesota Nice' phrase is just a myth. When we're alone, we think evil thoughts of ya!

When I was young we were poor. We didn't have a Christmas tree, we had a Christmas stump. (rim shot)

re: #62 MandyManners

I wanna' see them ban drinking Chardonnay in homes with kids.

You're absolutely right. When you've got kids at home, only the hard stuff will do.

re: #63 Taqyia2Me

Oh, that too, besides bad results!

Ah! Don't worry. I won't tell a soul.

re: #65 Bear

As I understand the Muslims do not celebrate Christmas. If so then will this Christmas be the last one recognized by the White House?

They dont celebrate christmas as such but I still see christmas trees and santa suits sold here. Somehow, They've managed to make it part of new Year's .

re: #45 Kenneth

Future of coalition, Dion's leadership uncertain

Dion is gone. The only thing uncertain is when.

Stephane Dion is almost gone,
Bob Rae won't get the hell away.
Michael Ignatieff is lurking as if
He's waiting soon to make them pay.

re: #65 Bear

As I understand the Muslims do not celebrate Christmas. If so then will this Christmas be the last one recognized by the White House?

Wha?

re: #64 MandyManners

How can they do that? Has it been challenged?

Mandy... IT'S Fricking California... Our politicians here do shit that would make Hitler or Stalin jealous...

re: #67 96RoadKing

That 'Minnesota Nice' phrase is just a myth. When we're alone, we think evil thoughts of ya!

I know I was born in Ely, Minnesota and raised in Minneapolis ...:)

re: #59 MandyManners

Probably just that the cups are too small to hold it all-and trying to switch in midstream is messy...I know, TMI.

re: #69 doppelganglander

You're absolutely right. When you've got kids at home, only the hard stuff will do.

Only once you let them learn how to talk.

re: #37 Pietr

I believe that has been done in CalFornya. Outside smoking banned if it bothers a neighbor-inside smoking banned for homes with children. Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness-but only if it is on the Liberal Agenda!

True story. Years ago, I was at the best Omelete restaurant in Seal Beach
Ca. While I was waiting for my breakfast a very relevant youing couple next to me were discussing the total shallowness of the American Middle Class.
Smoking was permiited & I did at the time. I pulled out my Marlboros.
Their antena went up & they glared at me. The relevant dude says, 'Man , your not gonna light that up?"
I said, 'Well yeah I intend to"
'Well,could ya like wait till we're gone?Sheesh"
I am open to comprimise, I said 'Sure, as long as you leave now"
Oh man ,were they upset as they left

re: #75 Dustyvet

I know I was born in Ely, Minnesota and raised in Minneapolis ...:)

So - what's your estimate of how many flat-water miles you have under you?

re: #74 doriangrey

Mandy... IT'S Fricking California... Our politicians here do shit that would make Hitler or Stalin jealous...

But, it's your own PROPERTY, the fruits of your very own labor.

We had a moron legislator (serious oxymoron) here a few years ago who wanted kids riding in shopping carts to be required to wear helmets, and another who tried to outlaw fluffernutter in schools.

re: #77 MandyManners

Only once you let them learn how to talk.

Or,if you're the only male in a house full of women. Only the best will do. Ol'grandads.. Early Times.

re: #76 Pietr

Probably just that the cups are too small to hold it all-and trying to switch in midstream is messy...I know, TMI.

I've only had to take one once. Flying colors.

re: #79 jamgarr

So - what's your estimate of how many flat-water miles you have under you?

Hmm, good question...:)

re: #68 Dustyvet

When I was young we were poor. We didn't have a Christmas tree, we had a Christmas stump. (rim shot)

You had a stump?ohhh! we used to dream of having a Christmas stump! Thanks Mr. Python!

re: #82 baconeatingkaffir

Or,if you're the only male in a house full of women. Only the best will do. Ol'grandads.. Early Times.

Basil Hayden's.

re: #85 96RoadKing

You had a stump?ohhh! we used to dream of having a Christmas stump! Thanks Mr. Python!

You were allowed to dream?

re: #62 MandyManners

I wanna' see them ban drinking Chardonnay in homes with kids.

Can't have smoke, booze or guns around kids, and when they get conservatism listed as a mental disorder, none of those either.

re: #60 Taqyia2Me

I would also argue that the big government elitists (donks and RINOs) and hedgefund Soros types are all one in the same and doing quite nicely, asset-wise right now, thankyouverymuch.

Of course they are. They are the ones that saw this coming (or manufactured it) and they had their ducks lined up in a row before any of us even knew what hit.

Do you, or anyone here on LGF, seriously believe that any handout of any money to anyone is really designed to BENEFIT ANYONE ONE OF US.

Any effect that all this pocketing of public funds will have on US, is a possible short term spillover. Other than that, in the near future, we are going to be getting the bill for this party.

I am tired of all the "market experts" telling me how good this is for the country. No, this is good for the Evil Money Cult (TM-TFK), nothing more, nothing less.

And that includes the "experts" here on LGF. Anyone touting the horn of these bailouts and handouts are simply hoping that they can ride on the coat tails of Big Money for a few more months.

Well, that will only work for as long as the it takes for the bills to be compiled and the accountants in the government to realize that it's payback time.

Sit on that shit folks.

re: #87 MandyManners

You were allowed to dream?

Only on Holidays. And then we had to pay the Miller for the opportunity!

re: #53 Walter L. Newton

hand outs, bail outs, shout outs and get the fuck outs

...all we are saying is give "O" a chance.///

I bought my friend some gift-wrap for Christmas. I took it to the gift-wrap counter and told them to wrap it, but in different paper, so he'd know when to stop unwrapping.

Well, my level one 8 week course finished. The kids somehow loved me and it actually seems that they learned something. They actually asked me out for drinks! I had to tell them that if they complete the preparatory course in June I will go out and drink with them.. but only if they are out of the prep. program!

re: #84 Dustyvet

Hmm, good question...:)

Did a fly-in/paddle-out trip out of Atikokan Sring before last with my son. 8 days, 55-60 miles. Great!

re: #92 Dustyvet

I bought my friend some gift-wrap for Christmas. I took it to the gift-wrap counter and told them to wrap it, but in different paper, so he'd know when to stop unwrapping.

I think I've just found the perfect gift for my brother, the Liberal!

re: #95 96RoadKing

I think I've just found the perfect gift for my brother, the Liberal!

Some of these new toys are so creative and inventive. This year they have a Neurotic Doll. It's wound up already.

re: #57 Dustyvet

Christmas is the time when people put so many bulbs on the outside of their houses, you don't know if they're celebrating the birth of Jesus or General Electric.

Yeah, my house is a dog-and-pony show for sure, but whatever it takes to keep Princess happy, I'll do. I fell off the ladder last week...Thank God the neighbors missed that little stunt.

re: #65 Bear

As I understand the Muslims do not celebrate Christmas. If so then will this Christmas be the last one recognized by the White House?

WTF?

re: #78 opnion

Back at you...
Was at O'Hare Intnl when they had enclosed areas for smokers. Went in sat down, and some guy sits next to me-and asks me not to light up as I prepare to! I said "this is the smoking area", and lit up! Seems his gate across the corridor had no seats left, so he comes in the smoking area and tries to tell me not to light up. BS I calls it...:>(

re: #91 Spare O'Lake

...all we are saying is give "O" a chance.///

Well, if that is your answer. Good luck.

Good morning all, hope you are doing well this fine day.

re: #66 legalpad

Don't worry. We will survive, we will adapt. It is a push and pull throughout history. Somebody posted this last night.

That was very interesting... They should have included the rise of socialism though...

re: #97 Maximu§

Yeah, my house is a dog-and-pony show for sure, but whatever it takes to keep Princess happy, I'll do. I fell off the ladder last week...Thank God the neighbors missed that little stunt.

re: #99 Pietr

Back at you...
Was at O'Hare Intnl when they had enclosed areas for smokers. Went in sat down, and some guy sits next to me-and asks me not to light up as I prepare to! I said "this is the smoking area", and lit up! Seems his gate across the corridor had no seats left, so he comes in the smoking area and tries to tell me not to light up. BS I calls it...:>(

Good for you. I just laugh at people who say those things to me, and I have 2 words for them. Tough Shit.

re: #89 Walter L. Newton
Do you, or anyone here on LGF, seriously believe that any handout of any money to anyone is really designed to BENEFIT ANYONE ONE OF US.

Of course it is! It "saves" the economy, lets us keep our jobs, we'll be so grateful we'll re-elected Obama / Reid / Polesi and be thankful for the 5 year 5 point plan that allows us ulimited beet soup and sawdust bread.

/

re: #65 Bear

As I understand the Muslims do not celebrate Christmas. If so then will this Christmas be the last one recognized by the White House?

And what does you asshole comment mean? Do you care to explain, or did you just decide to come into this room, drop a loud of shit and run away like a little wussie?

re: #95 96RoadKing

I think I've just found the perfect gift for my brother, the Liberal!

You should just shop at "Flaming-Bag-of-Crap.com" and order a special gift for your liberal friends

re: #99 Pietr

What was it on delta airlines I think it was that even said that smokeless tobacco useless wasn't allowed?

re: #89 Walter L. Newton

With the initial bailouts some 3 months ago, I was awestruck at the PORK they attached to it. If it was such a crisis, why pork it up?

re: #65 Bear

As I understand the Muslims do not celebrate Christmas. If so then will this Christmas be the last one recognized by the White House?

Thats a "Beary" stupid statement.

Its "Beary" clear you you have no idea what your talking about.

I can't "Bear" anymore of that crap your writing.

Your Weekly Address from the President-Elect

re: #109 Taqyia2Me

With the initial bailouts some 3 months ago, I was awestruck at the PORK they attached to it. If it was such a crisis, why pork it up?

Because there are too many in the Congress now that have never met an appropriation bill they didn't want to earmark.

re: #103 Dustyvet

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re: #109 Taqyia2Me

With the initial bailouts some 3 months ago, I was awestruck at the PORK they attached to it. If it was such a crisis, why pork it up?

Yeah but what about propping up the auto manufacturers? What good will that do when nobody has the desire nor the finances to buy a car?
When Daimler cut Chrysler loose, the warning lights should have gone on!

re: #89 Walter L. Newton

Sit on that shit folks.

All these negative waves, Walter! The "noblemen" have been stealing from the people for millennia. But the people inch forward in this back and forth struggle. Hole up, try to educate people in what is sensible, and work on your own adaptive economic projects.

re: #80 MandyManners

But, it's your own PROPERTY, the fruits of your very own labor.

In the Peoples Socialist Republic of California, all property belong to the state, and so do YOU and your labor...

re: #88 jcm

Can't have smoke, booze or guns around kids, and when they get conservatism listed as a mental disorder, none of those either.

Wanna' see them try.

re: #111 Killgore Trout

Your Weekly Address from the President-Elect

I am thinking he would be happy if Bush just packed up and left now...he is certainly acting like he is the President already.

re: #96 Dustyvet

Some of these new toys are so creative and inventive. This year they have a Neurotic Doll. It's wound up already.

LOL!

re: #109 Taqyia2Me

With the initial bailouts some 3 months ago, I was awestruck at the PORK they attached to it. If it was such a crisis, why pork it up?

I want to know where the indictments for fraud and theft are for all the CEO/ executive management thieves who grabbed everything that was not nailed down. If we have to bail out the mess they created, they should have every penny in assets seized, and live as our guests at the nearest federal pen.

re: #118 Desert Dog

I am thinking he would be happy if Bush just packed up and left now...he is certainly acting like he is the President already.

Ahem, he's been acting like that even before he got elected...

re: #119 MandyManners

What about a tickle-me- Obama?
It gives off so much hopey-changey feelings!

YES WE CAN! (courtesy of bob the builder)

re: #99 Pietr

Back at you...
Was at O'Hare Intnl when they had enclosed areas for smokers. Went in sat down, and some guy sits next to me-and asks me not to light up as I prepare to! I said "this is the smoking area", and lit up! Seems his gate across the corridor had no seats left, so he comes in the smoking area and tries to tell me not to light up. BS I calls it...:>(

Shoulda' told him that that was the No-Self-Righteous Asshole Zone.

re: #105 jcm

Do you, or anyone here on LGF, seriously believe that any handout of any money to anyone is really designed to BENEFIT ANYONE ONE OF US.

Of course it is! It "saves" the economy, lets us keep our jobs, we'll be so grateful we'll re-elected Obama / Reid / Polesi and be thankful for the 5 year 5 point plan that allows us ulimited beet soup and sawdust bread.

/

I know you were being sarcastic (right), but I don't know, I am having trouble finding even any gallows humor in any of this.

Last night was Golden's Candle Light Parade, which is simply citizens walking down main street with a lit candle, supplied by the city if you need one.

We had about half the normal crowd. Now mind you, this event does not cost you a penny, parking is free in Golden and we have public parking lots all over the place.

Many business' were giving free food out, free this, a snack here, a coupon there.

And the whole thing only lasts about 1/2 hour. But, as I said, about half the crowd.

We had a decent crowd at the theatre last night, but nowhere as jammed packed as we were last year. And we still have 3 weeks of performances to go.

re: #100 Walter L. Newton

Well, if that is your answer. Good luck.

Thanks, I'll need it.

re: #102 doriangrey

That was very interesting... They should have included the rise of socialism though...

Well, it's never just upward and onward for the good guys. There are always setbacks, and tragedies, for that matter. Non-Socialism will survive, if for no other reason, Socialism depends on it.

re: #120 CapeCoddah

I want to know where the indictments for fraud and theft are for all the CEO/ executive management thieves who grabbed everything that was not nailed down. If we have to bail out the mess they created, they should have every penny in assets seized, and live as our guests at the nearest federal pen.

All them elected officials that took "campaign contributions" from them should also be locked up. Except Barney Frank, he'd like being locked up with all those men too much...

re: #118 Desert Dog

Something makes me think Bush would be happier, too. The Presidency is a wretched job.

re: #106 Walter L. Newton

And what does you asshole comment mean? Do you care to explain, or did you just decide to come into this room, drop a loud of shit and run away like a little wussie?

shat and ran. Asshole

re: #116 doriangrey

In the Peoples Socialist Republic of California, all property belong to the state, and so do YOU and your labor...

Commies, earthquakes, wildfires, mudslides, San Francisco, killer fog...why do people move and stay there?

re: #116 doriangrey

In Oklahoma, you DO NOT own your pets! Not unless they are listed as peronal property and taxable, or so it use to be. This allows the State/City to seize destroy any animal they have a complaint with/about. I believe Ca. tried to do likewise? Anyone know?

re: #127 Taqyia2Me

All them elected officials that took "campaign contributions" from them should also be locked up. Except Barney Frank, he'd like being locked up with all those men too much...

Yeah, them too, just forgot to add that in. I want to see perp walks in unprecedented numbers.

re: #122 baconeatingkaffir

What about a tickle-me- Obama?
It gives off so much hopey-changey feelings!

YES WE CAN! (courtesy of bob the builder)

I still cannot figure out why the holder of the Bob-the-Builder rights didn't go after CBBHO for the obvious infringement.

Tickle-Me-Obama? *shudder*

re: #118 Desert Dog

I am thinking he would be happy if Bush just packed up and left now...he is certainly acting like he is the President already.

Typical behavior for him. Has the title but loathes the responsibility.

re: #133 MandyManners

Is the O-face getting so desperate for speech material that the has to plagiarize from cartoons these days?

re: #115 legalpad

All these negative waves, Walter! The "noblemen" have been stealing from the people for millennia. But the people inch forward in this back and forth struggle. Hole up, try to educate people in what is sensible, and work on your own adaptive economic projects.

Bullshit. I'm more capable than most folks in bucking up and taking care of what needs to be taken care of.

But there is no way I am going to just sit back and keep my mouth shut. That's the problem.

Tough shit about the negative waves. I hope it rattles some of those "people" you mentioned above to do more than just "work on your own adaptive economic projects."

Gee, isn't that cute hyperbole.

re: #130 MandyManners

Commies, earthquakes, wildfires, mudslides, San Francisco, killer fog...why do people move and stay there?

Because the weather here is simply to die for... The weather really is that good...

re: #133 MandyManners

I still cannot figure out why the holder of the Bob-the-Builder rights didn't go after CBBHO for the obvious infringement.

Tickle-Me-Obama? *shudder*

If you don't like the Tickle-Me-Obama doll, perhaps you'd prefer this Obama novelty?

re: #129 Erik The Red

shat and ran. Asshole

The Kid said "spitted" the other day. I told him that the past tense is "spat" just like "sit". He then piped up "So, it's not 'shitted'. It's 'shat'." Right proud of that boy, I am.

re: #121 Dustyvet

Ahem, he's been acting like that even before he got elected...

The big push now is to get appointed by IL. Governor Rod Blagovych to serve out the remainder of Obama's Senate term.
Former Black Panther, Congressman Bobby Rush claims that it would be an insult, not to appoint an African American!

re: #111 Killgore Trout

Your Weekly Address from the President-Elect

I heard that this morning. Did I miss something? When did the P.E. start making Sat. morning appearances?

re: #132 CapeCoddah

Yeah, them too, just forgot to add that in. I want to see perp walks in unprecedented numbers.

If Dodd and/or Franks was even thought to be anything close to conservative, they'd be sitting in jail awaiting trial right now.

Seems the country is being plagued with social engineering, under the guise of the "good of the people" lately. Dunno about y'all, but I'm totally sick of it.

re: #135 baconeatingkaffir

Is the O-face getting so desperate for speech material that the has to plagiarize from cartoons these days?

These days? Heck, his campaign was based on Bob. Of course, I still cannot see CBBHO wielding a hammer or a saw.

[Link: www.obamasurvivalkit.info...]

re: #141 Walter L. Newton

When did the P.E. start making Sat. morning appearances?

Change!

re: #137 doriangrey

Because the weather here is simply to die for... The weather really is that good...

I can put up with some freezing and snowing and the occasional tornado siren.

re: #139 MandyManners

The Kid said "spitted" the other day. I told him that the past tense is "spat" just like "sit". He then piped up "So, it's not 'shitted'. It's 'shat'." Right proud of that boy, I am.

He is learning some good old English, English. Not that I am a pro.

Good morning, Lizards! I heard there was going to be a screen test this morning. I'm ready.

re: #141 Walter L. Newton

I heard that this morning. Did I miss something? When did the P.E. start making Sat. morning appearances?

When Obama was crowned Emperor of the world... er, designed President Elect to be...

re: #138 Desert Dog

If you don't like the Tickle-Me-Obama doll, perhaps you'd prefer this Obama novelty?

I wouldn't insult my...well, you get what I'm trying to say.

re: #144 MandyManners

These days? Heck, his campaign was based on Bob. Of course, I still cannot see CBBHO wielding a hammer or a saw.

I can't see him doing any sort of manual labor or anything that would be too strenuous. I find it intersting he did play highschool football. Reckon he's going to go the Al Bundy way and start talking about his one touchdown?

Obama sounds angry this morning.

I haven't been on in a while; can someone please clue me into what the CB before BHO means?

re: #149 SurferDoc

Good morning, Lizards! I heard there was going to be a screen test this morning. I'm ready.

MATH TEST... Not screen test... I hope you brought your pencil... ;p

re: #144 MandyManners

These days? Heck, his campaign was based on Bob. Of course, I still cannot see CBBHO wielding a hammer or a saw.

I could see him wearing and wielding a hammer and sicle. :)

re: #148 Erik The Red

He is learning some good old English, English. Not that I am a pro.

I think I'll get him some Chaucer for Christmas. He's already learning the King James version of the Bible.

re: #111 Killgore Trout

Your Weekly Address from the President-Elect

ugh.

re: #153 Killgore Trout

Obama sounds angry this morning.

Where, what, why?

re: #142 Taqyia2Me

If Dodd and/or Franks was even thought to be anything close to conservative, they'd be sitting in jail awaiting trial right now.

Think about it. Over the last 2 months or so, in almost every poll of the American people on bailout subjects, the public was AGAINST the measures.

Didn't stop anyone up in DC-land from doing anything other than what they WANTED to do.

And here comes the auto bailout, right on schedule. Barney told us it HAS TO HAPPEN.

Think about it.

re: #155 doriangrey

MATH TEST... Not screen test... I hope you brought your pencil... ;p

Oh. Crap.

re: #149 SurferDoc

Good morning, Lizards! I heard there was going to be a screen test this morning. I'm ready.

You missed a one-inch patch of hair on your legs. You might wanna' deal with that before you get to the casting couch.

re: #151 MandyManners

I wouldn't insult my...well, you get what I'm trying to say.

ROTFLMAO... Yup, I really don't care to have "The One" that close to my backside...

re: #89 Walter L. Newton

It's all about pay-to-play and bailing out the democrat's union buddies.

Democrat contributors (AKA the unions) will be receiving our tax dollars shortly. Without our approval. (60-70% of the folks think it's bunk) I doubt the democrats would care too much about the Big 3 if it were not for the unions. The dems must protect their precious unions -- A crap business model that mirrors socialism. (people over-paid to do nothing)
my 2 cents.

re: #124 Walter L. Newton

Know what you mean, but at times.

The American Revolution occurred with the the support of one third; the people. one third Tories, one third in the middle and went which way the wind blew, one third for the Revolution.

It's similar now, one third left, one third mushy middle (who voted against GWB / McCain more than for Obama) and one third right.

This whole bailout, handout, scheme will crash like the ponzi scheme it is. Out of the dust well be able to rebuild.

re: #153 Killgore Trout

Obama sounds angry this morning.

Where? About what?

Thought he was in Hawaii at some posh home.

re: #160 Walter L. Newton

Think about it. Over the last 2 months or so, in almost every poll of the American people on bailout subjects, the public was AGAINST the measures.

Didn't stop anyone up in DC-land from doing anything other than what they WANTED to do.

And here comes the auto bailout, right on schedule. Barney told us it HAS TO HAPPEN.

Think about it.

I'm hoping the American people wake up in 2010 and vote these idiots right out of office.

re: #152 baconeatingkaffir

I can't see him doing any sort of manual labor or anything that would be too strenuous. I find it intersting he did play highschool football. Reckon he's going to go the Al Bundy way and start talking about his one touchdown?

First string or second string?

re: #157 MandyManners

How old is he? That can be...nice or TMI for his age.

re: #153 Killgore Trout

Obama sounds angry this morning.

Join the club Barry.

re: #149 SurferDoc

Good morning, Lizards! I heard there was going to be a screen test this morning. I'm ready.

Norma Desmond: [to newsreel camera] And I promise you I'll never desert you again because after 'Salome' we'll make another picture and another picture. You see, this is my life! It always will be! Nothing else! Just us, the cameras, and those wonderful people out there in the dark!... All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up.

Sunset Blvd. (1950)

I'm testing a delicious Irish Coffee

re: #153 Killgore Trout

Obama sounds angry this morning.

I could say something about WAB and "getting some" but, I won't.

re: #153 Killgore Trout

Obama sounds angry this morning.

That must mean that Michelle is angry this morning.
Or, better, angrier than usual.

re: #45 Kenneth

Future of coalition, Dion's leadership uncertain

Dion is gone. The only thing uncertain is when.

Kenneth -

GOOD. Dion's move was one step short of a coup d'etat. Sow the wind and be blown away.

-S-

re: #173 MandyManners

I could say something about WAB and "getting some" but, I won't.

Go ahead and say it Mandy!
We're all thinking it, anyhoo.

re: #142 Taqyia2Me

If Dodd and/or Franks was even thought to be anything close to conservative, they'd be sitting in jail awaiting trial right now.

We, the people should be screaming constantly at the top of our lungs, so that they cannot ignore us, for this shit to be investigated and prosecuted. Kinda like the libs do. Problem is, people like us aren't prone to that behavior. We should be in this situation. We should be spending our days demanding justice, every day, until they cannot ignore us any more. It is almost damned time to pick up our pitchforks and drag their asses out ourselves. Nothing will change until we do.
I am not in any way advocating violence, just that we get off our asses and take our nation back. The American people have turned over their power through laziness in keeping our elected officials in check.

re: #156 baconeatingkaffir

I could see him wearing and wielding a hammer and sicle. :)

Only for a photo-op.

I still cannot get over the Soviet/Chinese/Nazi propaganda techniques/posters used in his campaign.

re: #166 rightymouse

His weekly radio address. Just his tone sounds angry and grumpy.

re: #171 Dustyvet

Norma Desmond: [to newsreel camera] And I promise you I'll never desert you again because after 'Salome' we'll make another picture and another picture. You see, this is my life! It always will be! Nothing else! Just us, the cameras, and those wonderful people out there in the dark!... All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up.

Sunset Blvd. (1950)

Yep. That is what I was thinking about when I posted it.

So, you are a mind reader? ;-)

re: #163 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO... Yup, I really don't care to have "The One" that close to my backside...

It's why I wouldn't use the NYT to line my cat's litter box.

re: #180 Killgore Trout

His weekly radio address. Just his tone sounds angry and grumpy.

His waffles went cold...:)

re: #183 ploome hineni

I don't understand any of these intitials

Prolly 'cause you have boob thread on the mind (inTITials).

This whole bailout, handout, scheme will crash like the ponzi scheme it is. Out of the dust well be able to rebuild.

- JCM

i couldn't agree more with the collapsing part but the rebuilding part is another issue. We ain't seen nothing yet and when we all begin to feel the pain, trust me, we will all be hurting. It will take decades to rebuild the mess that these ivory tower politards are currently putting us in.

re: #152 baconeatingkaffir

I can't see him doing any sort of manual labor or anything that would be too strenuous. I find it intersting he did play highschool football. Reckon he's going to go the Al Bundy way and start talking about his one touchdown?

Hmmm, I Knew that he played basketball, but never heard that he played HS football too.
His basketball moniker was ,"Barry the Bomber", because he liked to spot up on the arc & shoot threes. He apparentloy did not like to mix it up on the boards & never started a game, which he pissed & moaned about.

re: #175 ploome hineni

maybe he is in Hawaii trying to find Granny..(did they ever bury her?

Wasn't that the oddest coinkidink?

re: #169 Erik The Red

How old is he? That can be...nice or TMI for his age.

He's eight. I'd forgotten about the ribald passages from Chaucer. I'll have to rethink that one.

re: #185 reine.de.tout

Prolly 'cause you have boob thread on the mind (inTITials).

DIIID somebody mention boobs?

re: #130 MandyManners

Commies, earthquakes, wildfires, mudslides, San Francisco, killer fog...why do people move and stay there?

Earthquakes and Sharks to start us off.

re: #175 ploome hineni

maybe he is in Hawaii trying to find Granny..(did they ever bury her?

He won't be attending/did not attend her memorial service.

re: #180 Killgore Trout

His weekly radio address. Just his tone sounds angry and grumpy.

What's he all grumpy about?

re: #190 saberry0530

DIIID somebody mention boobs?

Somebody with boobs no less... ;)

re: #141 Walter L. Newton

I heard that this morning. Did I miss something? When did the P.E. start making Sat. morning appearances?

Went it became "cartoonish".

re: #177 reine.de.tout

Go ahead and say it Mandy!
We're all thinking it, anyhoo.

I think I've said enough already. Some Lizards might be reaching for the brain bleach.

re: #136 Walter L. Newton

Bullshit. I'm more capable than most folks in bucking up and taking care of what needs to be taken care of.

But there is no way I am going to just sit back and keep my mouth shut. That's the problem.

Tough shit about the negative waves. I hope it rattles some of those "people" you mentioned above to do more than just "work on your own adaptive economic projects."

Gee, isn't that cute hyperbole.

No, not bullshit. Reality. Nobody suggested that you keep your mouth shut. If you like negative waves, fine. It's not "tough" on anybody. It's the internet. And who would be "rattled?" Not me. I wasn't the least surprised by 9/11 and I've been carrying a gun since I was fifteen. I needed it. And I did suggest educating people. Not only is that not "keeping your mouth shut", but it is "more than just 'work on your own economic projects', which, by the way, is more than "cute". It works. I am doing it. What "more" are you suggesting? I have seen no specific suggestions. I have seen only your angry doom-saying. What actions are you suggesting?

re: #194 rightymouse

What's he all grumpy about?

He as begun to figure out that he is going to be the fall guy for the greater depression that will soon visit this land.

re: #172 Hungover at the Hajj

I'm testing a delicious Irish Coffee

I am on my 4th scotch on the rocks. Still can't decide if it is good or not. Maybe after 6 or 7 I can make an informed opinion.

re: #193 ploome hineni

what cinkidink? I missed that

Her being sick and dying right before the election.

re: #165 jcm

re: #167 Jetpilot1101

Ah, that's the rub (in my opinion). Most seasoned Lizards know my spiel here. Voting doesn't change a thing. No one, once they get to DC, does anything but the will of big money, period.

Voting has become a illusion for us, to make us feel like we are still part of the process, the democratic process.

Do you feel like part of the process right now? Is any politician doing what you feel is right for the country?

No, of course not. So stop fooling yourselves. Campaigns and voting and that is "make busy" work for you, it keeps you occupied, let's you go home at night and feel good, but it doesn't change a fucking thing.

Go ahead, admit it, you know it's so.

Solve the economy crises in 6 months.

Reduces taxes across the board.
Reduce government regulations across the board.
Cut Federal spending except for defense.

re: #183 ploome hineni

I don't understand any of these intitials

CBBHO=CommieBastardBHO.

WAB=WhineyAssBitch, a/k/a Michelle Obama.

Feeling better this morning? Did you get any good sleep?

re: #187 opnion

Hmmm, I Knew that he played basketball, but never heard that he played HS football too.
His basketball moniker was ,"Barry the Bomber", because he liked to spot up on the arc & shoot threes. He apparentloy did not like to mix it up on the boards & never started a game, which he pissed & moaned about.

What a fucking egomaniac!

re: #202 Walter L. Newton

re: #167 Jetpilot1101

Ah, that's the rub (in my opinion). Most seasoned Lizards know my spiel here. Voting doesn't change a thing. No one, once they get to DC, does anything but the will of big money, period.

Voting has become a illusion for us, to make us feel like we are still part of the process, the democratic process.

Do you feel like part of the process right now? Is any politician doing what you feel is right for the country?

No, of course not. So stop fooling yourselves. Campaigns and voting and that is "make busy" work for you, it keeps you occupied, let's you go home at night and feel good, but it doesn't change a fucking thing.

Go ahead, admit it, you know it's so.

Then the only option is revolution my friend and frankly, I don't see that happening.

re: #60 Taqyia2Me

I would also argue that the big government elitists (donks and RINOs) and hedgefund Soros types are all one in the same and doing quite nicely, asset-wise right now, thankyouverymuch.

Not as well as you think: the Harvard Endowment lost nearly a quarter of its net worth - something on the order of $8 billion.

Smaller schools and pension funds are all in the tank.

Have the UAW or the Teamsters revealed what kind of hits they took in their pension funds?

re: #191 Thanos

Earthquakes and Sharks to start us off.

I could maybe live in Bakersfield.

re: #194 rightymouse

I don't know. This week he's speaking about rebuilding infrastructure (public works) as a way out of the financial crisis. He's spoken about this before but his tone is different today.

re: #199 Jetpilot1101

He as begun to figure out that he is going to be the fall guy for the greater depression that will soon visit this land.

But, he and his minions will just blame GWB!

re: #203 jcm

Solve the economy crises in 6 months.

Reduces taxes across the board.
Reduce government regulations across the board.
Cut Federal spending except for defense.
Fire 1/2 of all federal civil servants
Cut all politicians pay by 60%

There, added a coupe to your list... ;)

re: #198 legalpad

No, not bullshit. Reality. Nobody suggested that you keep your mouth shut. If you like negative waves, fine. It's not "tough" on anybody. It's the internet. And who would be "rattled?" Not me. I wasn't the least surprised by 9/11 and I've been carrying a gun since I was fifteen. I needed it. And I did suggest educating people. Not only is that not "keeping your mouth shut", but it is "more than just 'work on your own economic projects', which, by the way, is more than "cute". It works. I am doing it. What "more" are you suggesting? I have seen no specific suggestions. I have seen only your angry doom-saying. What actions are you suggesting?

There will be a civil war in this country with in 20 years (Rawmuse thinks it's sooner than that).

re: #204 ploome hineni

was there a memorial service?

he is such a repulsive ingrate
really takes after his father

/spit

One was/is scheduled.

re: #199 Jetpilot1101

He as begun to figure out that he is going to be the fall guy for the greater depression that will soon visit this land.

Ahhh...yesss. The reality of being almost-Prez. HOLY CRAP! It's all on me now soon!

And the world is watching. Heh.

Great toy ideas for the grand children...

Fisher-Price’s “Make-The-Vegetables-
Disappear Magic Kit”


Lionel’s “My First Train-Wreck Set”


Tyko’s “Illegal Activity Center”

re: #215 Walter L. Newton

You been talking to luap nor?

Melonhead losing popularity. The socialist model eventually collapses and leads to discontent. How long before we turn on Obama? Depends how much of a leftard he turns out to be.

re: #208 Jetpilot1101

Then the only option is revolution my friend and frankly, I don't see that happening.

Why? (and you never addressed any of my points).

re: #207 MandyManners

What a fucking egomaniac!

Completely! I can't prove it, but I bet Sraah Palin could take him one on one. Game of 21 by ones, win by two.

The O may be beginning to realize that if he hasn't resolved all the current issues within eighteen months, blaming Bush isn't going to help. It will all be on Him.

re: #172 Hungover at the Hajj

I'm testing a delicious Irish Coffee

upding for neato nic!

re: #212 ploome hineni

no, I had the worst night

:(

next year, I take the vaccine

/maybe

Influenza? I got it again. Last year, The Kid was almost eager to get it and needed minimal encouragement. This year, he pitched a royal hissy fit. Much bribery finally was involved, including a trip 20 miles away to get him some ice cream.

re: #215 Walter L. Newton

There will be a civil war in this country with in 20 years (Rawmuse thinks it's sooner than that).

Add me to the "sooner than that" list... This time instead of North vs South it will be Conservatives vs Liberal/socialist/communists...

re: #206 ploome hineni

you think she was offed?

lol

Of course not.

It was just so odd that he didn't go to her funeral and there wasn't more fan-fare about the whole thing.

re: #211 Killgore Trout

I don't know. This week he's speaking about rebuilding infrastructure (public works) as a way out of the financial crisis. He's spoken about this before but his tone is different today.

Recycled New Deal BS.

I really don't want to end this economic downturn with half-assed government programs followed by a world war AGAIN!

re: #205 MandyManners

CBBHO=CommieBastardBHO.

WAB=WhineyAssBitch, a/k/a Michelle Obama.

Feeling better this morning? Did you get any good sleep?

Thank you Mandy! I needed to know the initials as well.

I mean should we all move to the next phase of kookspiracy talk, the bilderbergers and gold standard?

BBL, off to get the Christmas tree with my granddaughter. Have a great day, lizards, and everyone stay safe.

re: #219 Thanos

You been talking to luap nor?

I have never even read a single position point, essay or what ever by him.

My knowledge and understanding of this country, world history and the political foundations on which we are built on is all the information I need to see what is happening (or not happening).

We are at the tipping point. And there are so many people that know it but refuse to admit it.

Watch what happens.

re: #202 Walter L. Newton

That's because we keep voting in the same old shits.

A clean sweep would changes things, but while folks talk about it, they end up relying on everyone else to throw their bastard out and they keep theirs. Result everyone keeps their bastard who brings home the bacon.

Voting still matters. But only if we really vote to alter the direction of things.
Note: "we" as in all of us not just conservatives.

re: #222 opnion

Completely! I can't prove it, but I bet Sraah Palin could take him one on one. Game of 21 by ones, win by two.

Remember the SNL skit of a b-ball game between Barney and Barkley? That's what I'm thinking.

re: #230 Thanos

I'm waiting for the Greys myself.

Maybe they are looking for cheap earth labor?

re: #232 Walter L. Newton

Prove it. I don't see any breadlines out there across the country Walter.

re: #211 Killgore Trout

I don't know. This week he's speaking about rebuilding infrastructure (public works) as a way out of the financial crisis. He's spoken about this before but his tone is different today.

Ah, so.

Wonder if anyone has bothered to tell him that the WPA didn't drag us out of Roosevelt's depression.

If the p[olitical situation in this country degrades into civil war, I doubt very much it'll involve extreme violence. Some physical confrontation, yes, most will be rhetorical faceoffs.

Charles is testing something?
I so feel like a genie pig.

re: #223 SurferDoc

The O may be beginning to realize that if he hasn't resolved all the current issues within eighteen months, blaming Bush isn't going to help. It will all be on Him.

Not if the MFM have their way. He could have sex with a goat in the Rose Garden and they would ignore it.

re: #229 Jetpilot1101

Thank you Mandy! I needed to know the initials as well.

You're welcome!

re: #230 Thanos

I mean should we all move to the next phase of kookspiracy talk, the bilderbergers and gold standard?

Bohemian Grove! The Giant Owl!

re: #215 Walter L. Newton

There will be a civil war in this country with in 20 years (Rawmuse thinks it's sooner than that).

Having lived in Africa for the last 26 years I have a real problem believing this argument/bullshit. We/you/all will get through the next 4/8 years. Remember 2001? This time it may be bigger and longer and harder but The USA is still the strongest in the world. We will come out of this stronger leaner and meaner than a bad ass MF because of the people not the fucking government.

re: #228 unclassifiable

Recycled New Deal BS.

I really don't want to end this economic downturn with half-assed government programs followed by a world war AGAIN!

That's the dirty little secret about FDR. He tried his best to end the Derpession, but they were government job programs mainly & could not sustain the economy in the long run.
WW2 ended the Great Depression & the GI Bill created the Middle Class.

re: #236 Thanos

Prove it. I don't see any breadlines out there across the country Walter.

Make no mistake about it, they are coming... 7 trillion dollar bailout... Why in the hell do you think congress approved it?

re: #215 Walter L. Newton

There will be a civil war in this country with in 20 years (Rawmuse thinks it's sooner than that).

If there is, we will be on the same side. My boys and I tend to be oriented toward apocalyptic conditions. We just need to figure out - well - not on the internet -

re: #232 Walter L. Newton

I have never even read a single position point, essay or what ever by him.

My knowledge and understanding of this country, world history and the political foundations on which we are built on is all the information I need to see what is happening (or not happening).

We are at the tipping point. And there are so many people that know it but refuse to admit it. Watch what happens.

Sorry to say it but I agree. As more and more people lose their jobs/homes/dignity and our leaders continue to take care of themselves and their interests, average people will try to take matters into their own hands. We have been getting screwed by these people for way too long.

re: #234 MandyManners

Remember the SNL skit of a b-ball game between Barney and Barkley? That's what I'm thinking.

Yup, I'm betting that Palin would play too rough for him. He would whine for all kinds of cheap touch fouls.

re: #236 Thanos

Prove it. I don't see any breadlines out there across the country Walter.

Thanos, when I say tipping point, I am talking about the point of NOT being able to ever effect political change in our country again. I'm talking about being at the edge of a plutocracy, and if we don't act now, we won't be able to stop it, not through our normal democratic avenues.

re: #239 HoosierHoops

genie pig

If we rub your belly, does Barbara Eden appear?

(-:

re: #245 doriangrey

Bullshit, we were in worse shape before Reagan came into office. I lived in a state for decades that averaged greater than 8 percent unemployment, there weren't any breadlines and I had two jobs.

re: #239 HoosierHoops

Charles is testing something?
I so feel like a genie pig.

Who rubbed your bottle the wrong way, Genie?

re: #233 jcm

That's because we keep voting in the same old shits.

A clean sweep would changes things, but while folks talk about it, they end up relying on everyone else to throw their bastard out and they keep theirs. Result everyone keeps their bastard who brings home the bacon.

Voting still matters. But only if we really vote to alter the direction of things.
Note: "we" as in all of us not just conservatives.

Everyone in the upper eastern quarter and the upper Midwest portion of this nation has no clue what you are talking about. That's why we have the eternal axis of Barney Frank, Chris dodd, John Kerry, Teddy Kennedy, Schmuck Schumer, Murtha ... et.all...

There are a few bad eggs on the Republican side, but nothing compared to the democrat party. The democrats in congress are some of the most corrupt economically clueless people walking the planet.
/captain obvious.

re: #243 Erik The Red

There will be a civil war in this country with in 20 years (Rawmuse thinks it's sooner than that).

Having lived in Africa for the last 26 years I have a real problem believing this argument/bullshit. We/you/all will get through the next 4/8 years. Remember 2001? This time it may be bigger and longer and harder but The USA is still the strongest in the world. We will come out of this stronger leaner and meaner than a bad ass MF because of the people not the fucking government.

Hooah! Now I feel like going out and killing a wild beastie with my bare hands!

re: #250 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If we rub your belly, does Barbara Eden appear?

(-:

LOL nice spelling hoopster!
I meet Barbra Eden.. She is so tiny..I was shocked...Very cute also

re: #255 MandyManners

Come visit we have the beasties running in the streets.

re: #247 VegasRick

Sorry to say it but I agree. As more and more people lose their jobs/homes/dignity and our leaders continue to take care of themselves and their interests, average people will try to take matters into their own hands. We have been getting screwed by these people for way too long.

Do Suzie Creamcheese and Joe Sixpack know what sweet deals our elected officials have in D.C.?

re: #249 Walter L. Newton

Plutocracy pffft.

There are too many competing billionaires, groups, nations, and parties with interests in this country for any one "cabal" to take over for just one thing. There are too many complex political groups, interests, lobbies for the plot you suggest. We muddle our way through, nobody is in control. We will muddle our way through this slowdown / recession as well.

re: #248 opnion

Yup, I'm betting that Palin would play too rough for him. He would whine for all kinds of cheap touch fouls.

Are you saying he's a sissy?