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Open | Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:47:11 pm PST

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

Douglas Adams

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1 NY Nana  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:51:35pm

G'nite,Lizards!

Sweet dreams.

2 Mr. E. Train  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:52:01pm

Never underestimate the power of large groups of determined fools.

3 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:54:58pm

re: #1 NY Nana

Love ya Nana. I am not long for the world either. Don't we live in a weird one?

4 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:56:11pm
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

— Douglas Adams

This is a group therapy session, right? Complete honesty -- right?

OK. I confess.

I never liked Douglas Adams. At all. I found him, and his entire style of humor, utterly unfunny. Straight mouth. Not even a smile. Not once.

5 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:56:16pm

re: #1 NY Nana

G'nite,Lizards!

Sweet dreams.

Good night, Nana!

6 Racer X  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:56:29pm

Douglas Adams - one of my favorites!

7 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:57:12pm

re: #6 Racer X

Douglas Adams - one of my favorites!

Uh oh.

8 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:57:33pm

A perfect example of -- read the whole thread first!

9 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:58:09pm

re: #4 zombie

This is a group therapy session, right? Complete honesty -- right?

OK. I confess.

I never liked Douglas Adams. At all. I found him, and his entire style of humor, utterly unfunny. Straight mouth. Not even a smile. Not once.

Yeah, plus Get Smart was OK, but . . .

...what's that? Oh Douglas Adams, not Don.

10 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:58:53pm

"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."

What do you think of Douglas Adams now?

11 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:59:30pm

re: #4 zombie

Do you like Monty Python? Maybe you're missing your Anlgo funny bone. It's ok, not everybody has it.

12 Racer X  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 10:59:36pm

re: #4 zombie

I never liked Douglas Adams. At all. I found him, and his entire style of humor, utterly unfunny. Straight mouth. Not even a smile. Not once.

I thought the same thing until found out his background. Then it hit me - ahhh...English humor. I loved Dr. Who.

13 Catttt  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:00:42pm

re: #4 zombie

This is a group therapy session, right? Complete honesty -- right?

OK. I confess.

I never liked Douglas Adams. At all. I found him, and his entire style of humor, utterly unfunny. Straight mouth. Not even a smile. Not once.

Me neither. I do like that quote, though.

14 Racer X  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:01:34pm

re: #7 zombie

Uh oh.

Heh. I thought Hitchhikers Guide was a wonderful book. I had never read anything quite like it.

15 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:03:33pm

Here's a guide to understanding Douglas Adams' writing style. It's especially handy for the uninitiated.

16 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:03:53pm

re: #11 Killgore Trout

Do you like Monty Python? Maybe you're missing your Anlgo funny bone. It's ok, not everybody has it.

Love Monty Python. But that's a different kind of humor. In fact, I like much of British humor. Just not Mr. Adams. A personal quirk of mine, I suppose.

17 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:04:14pm

Zombie. "Don't Panic!"

18 traderjoe9  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:04:37pm

re: #11 Killgore Trout

Do you like Monty Python? Maybe you're missing your Anlgo funny bone. It's ok, not everybody has it.

Life of Brian was great.

Biggus Dickus!

19 NY Nana  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:04:51pm

re: #3 Pvt Bin Jammin

I am not long for the world either. Don't we live in a weird one?

Very weird. I ♥ you, Private! ;)

This is as close to 2 AM as I have gone off line in eons. Too tired to think coherently, so help me, but that is nothing new.

Sweet dreams!

20 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:04:54pm

I heard this one long before Douglas Adams' books became popular, "Every time you build something foolproof, Nature comes out with a better grade of fool." Sometimes with "idiot" replacing "fool."

Perhaps the quote, as written, is Adams' take on the idea, but the idea itself long predates him. I remember my father expressing it back in the mid '60s. It was one of his favorite sayings, in fact.

And I do like Douglas Adams' books. Never heard him speak, I don't believe.

21 Catttt  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:04:56pm

OK, I love Dr. Who and Monty Python, but didn't like Douglas Adams when I tried reading him. I suppose I might give him another go (note the British lingo) - it's been a while.

Conversely, at the movies in London once, there were two Americans - me - and some guy. I know this, because we were the only ones laughing at the purely American jokes.

22 Joan  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:05:15pm

re: #11 Killgore Trout

Do you like Monty Python? Maybe you're missing your Anlgo funny bone. It's ok, not everybody has it.

true. My brother in law just rollls his eyes and leaves the room when we turn on the Britcoms

23 Catttt  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:05:33pm

re: #15 gmsc

Here's a guide to understanding Douglas Adams' writing style. It's especially handy for the uninitiated.

Too much work at 2 a.m. I will heart it and look tomorrow - later today.

24 NY Nana  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:06:12pm

re: #5 gmsc

G'nite, GMSC!

Sweet dreams!

25 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:07:38pm

re: #20 Alberta Oil Peon

I heard this one long before Douglas Adams' books became popular, "Every time you build something foolproof, Nature comes out with a better grade of fool." Sometimes with "idiot" replacing "fool."

Perhaps the quote, as written, is Adams' take on the idea, but the idea itself long predates him. I remember my father expressing it back in the mid '60s. It was one of his favorite sayings, in fact.

And I do like Douglas Adams' books. Never heard him speak, I don't believe.

One of my favorites speeches of his was called "Is There An Artificial God?". The link goes to the text of this speech, and there's also Speech Audio available at the link directly under his picture in the left column.

26 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:08:06pm

re: #24 NY Nana

G'nite, GMSC!

Sweet dreams!

I was saying good night to you! Sleep well!

27 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:10:34pm

re: #13 Catttt

Me neither.

I've given it 60 seconds of thought, and realized: What I don't like about it is the way the self-congratulatory smugness is built in to each sentence. Not only is he attempting to be funny, but he is simultaneously taking a victory lap for having been successful. I much much prefer the George Carlin/Stephen Wright style of pure deadpan.

28 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:12:52pm

Well, looks like I have successfully applied a wet blanket to the thread!

29 Gozer the Carpathian  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:14:05pm

*Chuckles*

I've enjoyed Douglas Adam's work for a while after seeing the old BBC TV version of the Hitchikers Guide. The books were even better though with even less plot. :)

Lots of great little bits of things in there. I love that the babel fish was the single greatest cause of death and destruction do to war and misunderstandings of any creature ever created. :)

30 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:14:06pm

They did a remake of Hitchhiker's Guide a few years ago. I found it very fitting that Zaphod was cast as an American.....
Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy 2005 The Ultimate Question

31 Gozer the Carpathian  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:15:02pm

Nah Zombie you're perfectly allowed to dislike DA. We still love ya.

I mean come on, not everyone likes Ghostbusters either and I get along fine with them. :D

32 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:15:05pm

Adams is kind ok, but I see him as a Tom Robbins/Kurt Vonnegut wannabe.

33 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:15:11pm

"Hello my baby, hello my darlin', hello my ragtime gal...!"

{Someone in the back of the audience coughs once. Silence.]

C'mon, let's get this party back on track!

34 Racer X  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:15:48pm

re: #27 zombie

I've given it 60 seconds of thought, and realized: What I don't like about it is the way the self-congratulatory smugness is built in to each sentence. Not only is he attempting to be funny, but he is simultaneously taking a victory lap for having been successful. I much much prefer the George Carlin/Stephen Wright style of pure deadpan.

Ahh but thats what makes it funny - to me. It is that English arrogance coming through. You don't quite know if he is truly being condescending or deadpan or serious.

my .02

35 Gozer the Carpathian  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:16:00pm

re: #33 zombie

"Hello my baby, hello my darlin', hello my ragtime gal...!"

{Someone in the back of the audience coughs once. Silence.]

C'mon, let's get this party back on track!

*Chuckles*

Is it just me or did anyone else think Spaceballs when you read that line?

36 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:16:16pm

re: #28 zombie

Well, looks like I have successfully applied a wet blanket to the thread!

now you're really panicking. Breathe.............

37 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:16:28pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

They did a remake of Hitchhiker's Guide a few years ago. I found it very fitting that Zaphod was cast as an American.....
Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy 2005 The Ultimate Question

I still prefer the old BBC TV version. They did it as a sort of miniseries, so they could take more time, and explore the book deeper than the 2005 movie could.

38 Joan  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:17:00pm

Terry Pratchett.


....talk amongst yourselves, insomniacs. In the words of the immortal JarJar Binx, "myh givvvupp!"

39 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:17:38pm

Zombie tell us how you really feel you thread killer you.

40 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:18:15pm

Reese Whitherspoon killed the thread.

41 Racer X  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:18:36pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

They did a remake of Hitchhiker's Guide a few years ago. I found it very fitting that Zaphod was cast as an American.....
Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy 2005 The Ultimate Question

I really liked that movie!

/deeply shallow

42 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:18:37pm

My style is S.J. Perlman and Jamer Thurber.

43 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:18:39pm

re: #40 IslandLibertarian

Reese Whitherspoon killed the thread.

Now that's a long callback!

44 NY Nana  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:18:46pm

re: #26 gmsc

You, too!

Last thing before I close down:

I adore Britcoms, and this is one of my favorites....the two Ronnies! Enjoy!

45 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:18:53pm

Jamer = James

46 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:19:00pm

My new favorite comic is brian reagan. Crowds have memorized some of his bits and chant along.

47 Racer X  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:19:11pm

re: #40 IslandLibertarian

Reese Whitherspoon killed the thread.

Not with a spork?

48 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:19:42pm

I saw Jonathan Winters in tahoe - we laughed until we cried.

49 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:19:55pm

re: #43 gmsc

Someone had to take the heat for Zombie....O.J. is tied up at the moment...

50 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:20:10pm

re: #48 DistantThunder

I saw Jonathan Winters in tahoe - we laughed until we cried.

He was the greatest stand-up comedian of them all.

51 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:20:13pm

Hiya Lizards! Looks like we are talking about comedy?

52 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:20:37pm

re: #33 zombie

"Hello my baby, hello my darlin', hello my ragtime gal...!"

{Someone in the back of the audience coughs once. Silence.]

C'mon, let's get this party back on track!

Wasn't there a Warner Bros. animated cartoon that featured a singing frog that sang that song?

53 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:20:59pm

re: #52 Alberta Oil Peon

Wasn't there a Warner Bros. animated cartoon that featured a singing frog that sang that song?

That's what I was thinking of...

54 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:21:13pm

re: #52 Alberta Oil Peon

Wasn't there a Warner Bros. animated cartoon that featured a singing frog that sang that song?

Famous line from it: "Ribbit"

55 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:21:31pm

re: #33 zombie

Now that I think of it Hitchhiker's Guide is a contemporary retelling of the Lord of the Rings. Brits/Hobbits hate to travel yet they do it as much as they can and they bring the comforts of home with them as much as they can and try to make due.
/enough deep thoughts for me. G'nite.

56 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:21:41pm

"...Send me a kiss by wire, Baby my heart's on fire!"

(Little known second line.)

57 redc1c4  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:21:45pm

re: #8 zombie

A perfect example of -- read the whole thread first!

nah.... he sucks.

(Doug, not Racer)

58 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:21:58pm

I watched a few minutes of Chris Rock on HBO and was appalled and offended at his vile racism and misogyny. What a jerk.

59 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:22:48pm

re: #42 zombie

My style is S.J. Perlman and Jamer Thurber.

Did you ever see Jack Lemmon in "The War Between Men and Women" (1972)? There's a James Thurber animation of his story "The Last Flower" right in the middle of the movie!

How do you feel about Shel Silverstein?

60 Catttt  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:23:09pm

re: #27 zombie

I've given it 60 seconds of thought, and realized: What I don't like about it is the way the self-congratulatory smugness is built in to each sentence. Not only is he attempting to be funny, but he is simultaneously taking a victory lap for having been successful. I much much prefer the George Carlin/Stephen Wright style of pure deadpan.

I'm with you there. Good analysis.

I have to mention - I liked Kingsley Amis and enjoyed P. G. Wodehouse.

I was going to mention I loved S. J Perelman, but he was an American.

61 NY Nana  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:23:19pm

A lizard posted this...can't remember who: The Monty Python Channel...it is great!

NY Grampa is prying my fingers off the keyboard...again!

G'nite for real.

62 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:23:36pm

re: #42 zombie

My style is S.J. Perlman and Jamer Thurber.

The former was one of the writers of the big Marx Brothers hit shows, later made into movies, IIRC. Along with Moss Hart?

63 redc1c4  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:23:41pm

re: #28 zombie

Well, looks like I have successfully applied a wet blanket to the thread!

never saw that in your "alley" post: is that in the subscription only portion of the page?

/white smoke

64 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:23:42pm

I saw Bill Cosby in 1985 in tahoe and remember crying at that one too.

65 zombie  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:23:53pm

re: #59 gmsc

Did you ever see Jack Lemmon in "The War Between Men and Women" (1972)? There's a James Thurber animation of his story "The Last Flower" right in the middle of the movie!

Never saw it!

How do you feel about Shel Silverstein?

Eh. Some good, some bad.

66 BlueCanuck  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:23:54pm

Evening all. Night shift checking in. At least we have moved on from the Nirth Certifikate to serious stuff. Zombie, just because you don't like Douglas Adams, or found him to be unfunny doesn't mean we will hate you. Disliking authours isn't like politics. We can move on until we find something we agree on. I see some one has already mentioned Terry Prattchet. Can we go there?

67 redc1c4  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:24:42pm

re: #61 NY Nana

A lizard posted this...can't remember who: The Monty Python Channel...it is great!

NY Grampa is prying my fingers off the keyboard...again!

G'nite for real.

wear him out!

/win, win!

68 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:24:49pm

re: #52 Alberta Oil Peon

Wasn't there a Warner Bros. animated cartoon that featured a singing frog that sang that song?

Yep - That's Michigan J. Frog from One Froggy Evening!

69 Catttt  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:25:39pm

re: #62 Alberta Oil Peon

The former was one of the writers of the big Marx Brothers hit shows, later made into movies, IIRC. Along with Moss Hart?

I LOVE the Marx Brothers. When I was going to school in New Orleans, I used to take the bus cross-town, with one bus change, to go see Marx Brothers movies.

70 redc1c4  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:26:31pm

re: #35 Gozer the Carpathian

*Chuckles*

Is it just me or did anyone else think Spaceballs when you read that line?

just you.

never saw it, still have my frontal lobes.

71 NY Nana  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:27:43pm

re: #67 redc1c4

I distracted him for a few minutes! ;)

72 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:28:44pm

I caught a few moments of the Three Stooges today - while clicking right past - Meet the Depressed. I had to burst out laughing.

73 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:29:06pm

re: #35 Gozer the Carpathian

*Chuckles*

Is it just me or did anyone else think Spaceballs when you read that line?

I didn't, but it's only because they're doing a quick parody of Michigan J. Frog.

It is cool that they got John Hurt, who did the original scene in Alien to do the parody scene, too!

74 NY Nana  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:29:28pm

re: #69 Catttt

Catt,

For you: Hello, I must be going!

G'nite for really real, honest! Sweet dreams, all!

75 Silvergirl  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:29:34pm

re: #46 DistantThunder

My new favorite comic is brian reagan. Crowds have memorized some of his bits and chant along.

He's been my favorite for several years. Well-loved by my family, and by any friends who check him out after I recommend him. When I'm feeling imperious (which isn't really too often, thankfully) I like to say, "Bring me the head of a pig" because of Regan's bit when he's talking about people flying First Class.

So when you do get on, the first class people are already sitting there; they're all sprawled out on their big thrones. "Bring me the head of a pig! And a goblet of something cool and refreshing! Anyone have a fiddle? Amuse me."

Take luck! ;-)

76 redc1c4  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:29:47pm

re: #71 NY Nana

I distracted him for a few minutes! ;)

that isn't what i had in mind.....

but maybe that was more than he could cope with. %-)

77 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:30:36pm

W C Fields

78 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:30:42pm

re: #75 Silvergirl

LOL, Take good care.

79 redc1c4  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:30:54pm

re: #69 Catttt

I LOVE the Marx Brothers. When I was going to school in New Orleans, I used to take the bus cross-town, with one bus change, to go see Marx Brothers movies.

they had buses back then? where they a nickle too?

/ducks, tosses white smoke

80 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:31:26pm

Abbott and Costello were my favorites.

81 Catttt  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:32:01pm

re: #74 NY Nana

Catt,

For you: Hello, I must be going!

G'nite for really real, honest! Sweet dreams, all!

When I was a little girl, we always watched Groucho's You Bet Your Life. Loved him - love all their movies - love them. I even read Groucho's books and Harpo's autobiography - my mom got me a copy through a used book service. This was all pre-internet when such things took more work.

82 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:32:40pm

re: #68 gmsc

Yep - That's Michigan J. Frog from One Froggy Evening!

Cool! Thanks for posting that!

83 redc1c4  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:32:43pm

re: #80 DistantThunder

Abbott and Costello were my favorites.

scotch and water are my favorites......

/old standbys are best

84 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:33:23pm

re: #69 Catttt

I LOVE the Marx Brothers. When I was going to school in New Orleans, I used to take the bus cross-town, with one bus change, to go see Marx Brothers movies.

Here's a true challenge for the Marx fan: How many of Lydia's tattoos can you name in 9 minutes?

85 Catttt  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:34:07pm

re: #79 redc1c4

they had buses back then? where they a nickle too?

/ducks, tosses white smoke

I don't remember for sure, and I know you are teasing me - but it was cheap. Maybe a quarter, including transfers - possibly 50 cents. Phone calls were still a nickel - This was the 70s - things were cheaper there than elsewhere.

86 Silvergirl  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:34:32pm

re: #80 DistantThunder

Abbott and Costello were my favorites.

I love Laurel and Hardy. One that a lot of people haven't seen because it doesn't seem to be as easy to find as so many of their others, is Big Business. They're out selling Christmas trees door to door. It's great! Plus this is the time of year for it.

87 chicken kiev  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:34:35pm

84 gmsc

And on a clear day you can see Alcatraz.

You can learn a lot from Lydia.

88 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:35:10pm

Waterloo

89 Catttt  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:35:22pm

re: #84 gmsc

Here's a true challenge for the Marx fan: How many of Lydia's tattoos can you name in 9 minutes?

I can sing the whole song, but I'm too tired to count.

She has eyes that men adore so
And her torso - even more so.

I HAVE to hit the hay now. YAWN. Night all.

90 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:35:29pm

re: #86 Silvergirl

I love Laurel and Hardy. One that a lot of people haven't seen because it doesn't seem to be as easy to find as so many of their others, is Big Business. They're out selling Christmas trees door to door. It's great! Plus this is the time of year for it.

I love the one where Laurel and Hardy join the Foreign Legion.

91 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:36:22pm

Peter Sellers - Pink Panther & Kato

92 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:36:33pm

Nite, Catttt

93 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:37:32pm

re: #87 chicken kiev

84 gmsc

And on a clear day you can see Alcatraz.

You can learn a lot from Lydia.

That's the song that the little sister sings in Philadelphia Story.

94 Catttt  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:37:39pm

OK - one more post.

The General - with Buster Keaton - funny. He made the Civil War funny - genius funny.

Hello - I must be going. :D

95 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:38:02pm

Carol Burnett's "Gone with the Wind" sketch

96 redc1c4  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:38:52pm

re: #85 Catttt

I don't remember for sure, and I know you are teasing me - but it was cheap. Maybe a quarter, including transfers - possibly 50 cents. Phone calls were still a nickel - This was the 70s - things were cheaper there than elsewhere.

no offense meant, glad none was taken, since i forgot the obligatory ' %-) '

things have always been different in the Crescent City, as my Coonass Army buddy is always quick to remind me. it isn't the heat, it's the stupidity.....

the Marz brothers are the only humorous part of the, unlike Karl.

97 JimmyTheClaw  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:39:27pm

best britcom ever is fawlty towers

98 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:40:00pm

re: #97 JimmyTheClaw

best britcom ever is fawlty towers

BlackAdder

99 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:40:12pm

re: #97 JimmyTheClaw

best britcom ever is fawlty towers

Oh my ....complete genius.

100 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:41:25pm

Douglas Adams? Okay, but more of a social than a literary phenomenon. My favorite Adams is Richard. Books such as Shardik and Watership Down are essential and transcendent reads.

101 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:43:16pm

re: #89 Catttt

I can sing the whole song, but I'm too tired to count.

She has eyes that men adore so
And her torso - even more so.

I HAVE to hit the hay now. YAWN. Night all.

Good night!

102 Silvergirl  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:43:22pm

re: #97 JimmyTheClaw

best britcom ever is fawlty towers

Too bad there are so few episodes!

103 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:44:17pm

re: #95 SurferDoc

Carol Burnett's "Gone with the Wind" sketch

Remember that dress Carol Burnett wears? The one she "saw in the window"? It was designed and created by none other than Bob Mackie!

104 pink freud  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:44:39pm

re: #95 SurferDoc

Carol Burnett's "Gone with the Wind" sketch

With the dress made from the curtains ....and the rods!

105 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:45:33pm

re: #103 gmsc

Remember that dress Carol Burnett wears? The one she "saw in the window"? It was designed and created by none other than Bob Mackie!

I found it on youtube a couple of weeks ago. "I saw it in the window and I just had to have it."

106 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:47:57pm

"Santa must be a Democrat.
He only works one night a year."

107 Joan  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:47:58pm

re: #98 SurferDoc

BlackAdder

Love that horrid little man.

108 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:48:24pm

re: #107 Joan

Love that horrid little man.

My all time favorite.

109 Silvergirl  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:49:56pm

re: #90 DistantThunder

I love the one where Laurel and Hardy join the Foreign Legion.

Flying Deuces.

And yes on Peter Sellers. have you ever seen that movie that's a bio on Sellers? Geoffrey Rush played Peter Sellers. The Life and Death of Peter Sellers. It took me awhile to get over the man behind the character Inspector Clouseau after I watched that film on his life. It put a damper on his comedy for me, but I think I've moved on. :-)

110 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:51:02pm

Cannot forget Peter Cook and Dudley Moore. And here's a very seasonal offering: Gospel Truth.

Enjoy!

111 redc1c4  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:53:08pm

re: #106 Dustyvet

"Santa must be a Democrat.
He only works one night a year."

they w*rk at all?

112 gmsc  Sun, Dec 7, 2008 11:58:34pm

re: #106 Dustyvet

"Santa must be a Democrat.
He only works one night a year."

No, he and his elves work all year. They only deliver one night a year!

113 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:04:35am

Another great bit of comedy...

Christopher LLyod (aka Reverend Jim) asking "What does a yellow light mean?"

Taxi.

114 Dainn  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:05:06am

re: #4 zombie

This is a group therapy session, right? Complete honesty -- right?

OK. I confess.

I never liked Douglas Adams. At all. I found him, and his entire style of humor, utterly unfunny. Straight mouth. Not even a smile. Not once.

Perhaps you are missing the proper gene to appreciate it. :) He's one of my favorites. I've read everything published by him, and the Hitchhikers series multiple times.

115 Dainn  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:06:28am

Nite lizards. I go back to lurking quietly in the background and sunning myself on a rock.

116 Killian Bundy  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:06:43am

Dusty Springfield

/lesbian, not that there's anything wrong with that

117 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:06:59am

re: #113 Dustyvet

Another great bit of comedy...

Christopher LLyod (aka Reverend Jim) asking "What does a yellow light mean?"

Taxi.


Jim's Driving Test..What does a yellow light mean?


118 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:07:33am

re: #27 zombie

I much much prefer the George Carlin/Stephen Wright style of pure deadpan.

Speaking of comedy from guys named "Wright", Øbie's Reverend crawled out from under the bus Sunday to remind us that it was 67 years ago to the day that America killed thousands of innocent civilians by dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima.

Really?

That's funny, I thought something altogether different happened between the Japanese and us on this date.

Hmm.

119 slokat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:10:00am

Drive by photo - sun rise yesterday @ Los Olivos (actually it's the reverse sky, the sun was behind me)

120 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:10:10am

re: #118 Abu Al-Poopypants

Speaking of comedy from guys named "Wright", Øbie's Reverend crawled out from under the bus Sunday to remind us that it was 67 years ago to the day that America killed thousands of innocent civilians by dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima.

Really?

That's funny, I thought something altogether different happened between the Japanese and us on this date.

Hmm.

Out from under the bus?, More like crawled out from under a rock...

121 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:12:04am

re: #118 Abu Al-Poopypants

Citation from my previous post.

122 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:13:00am

re: #120 Dustyvet

Out from under the bus?, More like crawled out from under a rock...

I think we're both right.

123 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:15:38am

re: #122 Abu Al-Poopypants

I think we're both right.

We are...:)

124 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:16:30am

re: #113 Dustyvet

Another great bit of comedy...

Christopher LLyod (aka Reverend Jim) asking "What does a yellow light mean?"

Taxi.

"Slow down".

Jim: "Whaaaaaaat...... doooooeeees..... aaaaaaa...."...

Classic.

125 Smilla  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:17:27am

re: #4 zombie

My feelings exactly. Douglas Adams and his ilk are so naff. Since the thread has progessed further into British humour... Peter Cook - seriously the funniest man to ever draw breath, Monty Python - for classics such as Dead Parrot and Spanish Inquisition, Jennifer Saunders and Joanna Lumley in Absolutely Fabulous - wicked, Dylan Moran in Black Books - Irish comic genius.

126 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:19:57am

re: #119 slokat

Drive by photo - sun rise yesterday @ Los Olivos (actually it's the reverse sky, the sun was behind me)

did you eat at Twin Oaks?

best meal in town, even if they don't do breakfast

127 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:22:26am

re: #119 slokat

Drive by photo - sun rise yesterday @ Los Olivos (actually it's the reverse sky, the sun was behind me)

classic central coast...... tip o' the Zin to you!

128 gmsc  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:25:56am

re: #124 Abu Al-Poopypants

"Slow down".

Jim: "Whaaaaaaat...... doooooeeees..... aaaaaaa...."...

Classic.

Aaaaah ... Taxi. There's a good ensemble show like you rarely see today.

I'm a big fan of Numb3rs, and I remember watching an episode where, at the end, the two Eppes boys go out on their dates, leaving the dad, played by Judd Hirsch, alone at home. He turns on the TV and, while you can't see it, you hear the Taxi theme song playing!

I guess I'm just a sponge for useless trivia. For example, Marilu Henner lost her virginity on July 20, 1969 - the same night Neil Armstrong landed on the moon!

129 Athos  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:36:57am

re: #48 DistantThunder

I saw Jonathan Winters in tahoe - we laughed until we cried.

I would have loved to have seen him - but I have to say, George Carlin and Robin Williams (who was a huge fan of Jonathan Winters) were the one's that nearly caused my collapse from lack of breathing as I was laughing so hard. I found Steve Martin live to be underwhelming compared to his SNL appearances, Eddie Murphy a poor substitute for Richard Pryor, and Bill Cosby the funniest clean comic I've seen.

130 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:38:37am

Dave Allen - Giving up smoking


131 Silvergirl  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:41:34am

re: #121 Abu Al-Poopypants

Citation from my previous post.

So if this is accurate, he mixed up Dec 7 and Aug 6. Can't these friends of Obama get their history straight? As in Biden talking about FDR on TV in the 1920s after the stock market crashed!

132 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:42:07am

re: #129 Athos

John Pinette is a very funny clean comic these days.
Tim Allen was a very good stand-up comedian before he got into sit-coms and movies.

133 Athos  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:43:56am

re: #80 DistantThunder

Abbott and Costello were my favorites.

Last summer, while in Boston on vacation, we went to the Science Museum while waiting on the Duck tour start time. They had an exhibit from Cooperstown on Baseball. One of the multimedia items were Abbott and Costello doing 'Who's on First'......my daughter nearly peed herself she was laughing so hard. I think it was the first time she seen Abbott and Costello. (I have to be careful with the old comics, my wife was perturbed when I introduced my daughter to Three Stooges short films.)

134 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:45:24am

Good morning, my scaly brethern! I was mostly away from the computer this weekend- did I miss anything noteworthy?

135 gmsc  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:01:52am

re: #134 Fenway_Nation

Good morning, my scaly brethern! I was mostly away from the computer this weekend- did I miss anything noteworthy?

Well, there was the 67th anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack. Or, if you listen to 0bama, the 78th anniversary.

136 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:04:27am

re: #132 Abu Al-Poopypants

John Pinette is a very funny clean comic these days.
Tim Allen was a very good stand-up comedian before he got into sit-coms and movies.

John is funny, and *relatively* clean, but he's no angel, cherub like demeanor or not.

/funny as shit, regardless

137 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:05:39am

re: #135 gmsc

Well, there was the 67th anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack. Or, if you listen to 0bama, the 78th anniversary of unwarrented American agression against the innocent Japanese.

fixed that for ya!

138 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:05:56am

re: #133 Athos


Had to upding that because I caught the same exhibit- and I think that was the first time I ever saw the Abbot & Costello bit in its entirety.....

139 gmsc  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:14:45am

re: #137 redc1c4

fixed that for ya!

Not bad . . . but you forgot the part there only being one bomb involved in the Pearl Harbor attack!
;)

140 gmsc  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:15:17am

Well, I've got to go. I'm getting sleepy.

Good night all!

142 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:21:10am

My name is Ozymandis Fenway Nation, King of Kings Destroyer of Late Night Threads

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.

143 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:26:32am

I can't decide whether to lead with Bring out Yer Dead! or don't forget your towel.

144 BignJames  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:27:23am

re: #134 Fenway_Nation

Nope, don't think so.

145 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:29:48am

re: #139 gmsc

Not bad . . . but you forgot the part there only being one bomb involved in the Pearl Harbor attack!
;)

didn't know that the Germans only had one bomb..... but i should have guessed that, efficient bastards that they are.

/white smoke

146 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:31:32am

re: #142 Fenway_Nation

My name is Ozymandis Fenway Nation, King of Kings Destroyer of Late Night Threads

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair yawn.

fixed that for ya!

147 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:32:44am
148 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:32:57am

re: #143 Mel Lono

I can't decide whether to lead with Bring out Yer Dead! or don't forget your towel.

how about 3 fingers of single malt, neat, in a nice wide short glass, and the same amount of spring water on the side?

149 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:33:54am

re: #146 redc1c4


If I single-handedly kill the thread, I'm working under the assumption that there's nobody left around to yawn....

'cept maybe some disinterested lurkers

150 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:35:53am
151 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:37:22am

re: #149 Fenway_Nation

If I single-handedly kill the thread, I'm working under the assumption that there's nobody left around to yawn....

'cept maybe some disinterested lurkers

i was *not* disinterested: i was busy fucking off somewhere else.

(you're not *that* impotent...... %-)

152 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:37:57am

re: #149 Fenway_Nation

If I single-handedly kill the thread, I'm working under the assumption that there's nobody left around to yawn....

'cept maybe some disinterested lurkers

Morning Lizards lurking not much to say and getting some work done. Waiting for fruitcup.

153 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:37:57am

re: #148 redc1c4

how about 3 fingers of single malt, neat, in a nice wide short glass, and the same amount of spring water on the side?

Laphroig, then sir, from the island of Islay. A bit of peat.

154 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:39:27am

re: #148 redc1c4

how about 3 fingers of single malt, neat, in a nice wide short glass, and the same amount of spring water on the side?

I will take you up on that when I get home from work. Thanks and cheers.

155 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:39:49am

re: #152 Erik The Red


Why not whistle while you lurk?

156 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:39:58am

Just lurking this fine evening. If I could call it that. Very cold out here, and it's starting to snow again. Just one of those nights when I have nothing worthwile to say.

157 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:42:14am

re: #155 Fenway_Nation

Why not whistle while you lurk?

*WHACK*

pinch hitting for Mandy

158 stonemason  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:42:52am

re: #149 Fenway_Nation

If I single-handedly kill the thread, I'm working under the assumption that there's nobody left around to yawn....

'cept maybe some disinterested lurkers

Actually if we were truly

disinterested

we wouldn't be lurking...

159 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:43:06am

re: #156 BlueCanuck

Just lurking this fine evening. If I could call it that. Very cold out here, and it's starting to snow again. Just one of those nights when I have nothing worthwile to say.

cold here too: in the 50's F.......

160 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:44:16am

re: #153 Mel Lono

Laphroig, then sir, from the island of Islay. A bit of peat.

since HRH is out of town, i may go peruse the closet of dreams and treat myself.

if i post a list, can i get an opinion?

161 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:45:12am

re: #158 stonemason

preach it brother!

162 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:45:28am

re: #56 zombie
If you refuse me honey you'll lose me. Then you'll be left alone oh baby come on and tell me I'm your own.

163 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:45:36am

re: #159 redc1c4

cold here too: in the 50's F.......

*WHACK*

Just for rubbing it in. -11° C here right now.

164 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:47:33am

re: #163 BlueCanuck

*WHACK*

Just for rubbing it in. -11° C here right now.

85 here. Sorry Blue.

165 stonemason  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:48:08am

re: #163 BlueCanuck

*WHACK*

Just for rubbing it in. -11° C here right now.


19 degrees F in West Chester PA, with the wind...10 degrees F.

166 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:48:36am

re: #160 redc1c4

since HRH is out of town, i may go peruse the closet of dreams and treat myself.

if i post a list, can i get an opinion?

Given.. I have an uncle-in-law with a scotch cellar and an opinion. After the split, I haven't spoke to him in awhile so it would make a great conversation starter.

167 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:49:02am

re: #163 BlueCanuck

At least it's in the double digits, Blue...

/

168 stonemason  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:49:53am

re: #165 stonemason

19 degrees F in West Chester PA, with the wind...10 degrees F.

which is -7 and -12 degrees C respectively for those in the other parts of the world

169 stonemason  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:51:28am

re: #168 stonemason

or 266 and 216 degrees k because I was bored

170 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:51:33am

re: #168 stonemason

which is -7 and -12 degrees C respectively for those in the other parts of the world

Can I have that formula for C-F again? I'm always forgeting that one. 32 = 0 and then...

171 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:51:50am

re: #168 stonemason


I'm sure that Eggles win yesterday afternooon might keep you warm.

/Cost me dearly in the football pool, but it's almost worth it to see both NY teams crash and burn today,

172 BignJames  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:54:32am

re: #153 Mel Lono

Laphroig, then sir, from the island of Islay. A bit of peat.


Not real big on scotch (bourbon) but that is my fave.

173 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:55:29am

re: #165 stonemason

19 degrees F in West Chester PA, with the wind...10 degrees F.

NO WONDER I'M FREEZING! :-(

174 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:56:20am

re: #173 littleoldlady

Never mind that- how are the components for the fruitcup faring?

175 BignJames  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:56:30am

re: #170 Mel Lono


F= C x 1.8 + 32

176 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:57:14am

re: #174 Fenway_Nation

Giving new meaning to "chilled"...

177 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:57:21am

re: #175 BignJames

Thanks. Got that one imbedded again.

178 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:58:28am

re: #176 littleoldlady


I'm sure Red could reccomend a good anti-freeze.

179 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:58:35am

re: #176 littleoldlady

At least the fruit is easier to cut. ;)

180 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:58:44am

re: #174 Fenway_Nation

Never mind that- how are the components for the fruitcup faring?

Got the Everclear ready red?

181 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:58:45am

re: #170 Mel Lono

(Deg Farenheit - 32)5/9 for f-c
(deg Cel)9/5 plus 32 for c-f

182 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:59:16am

re: #181 Rancher

(Deg Farenheit - 32)5/9 for f-c
(deg Cel)9/5 plus 32 for c-f

Damn that new math

183 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

VERY COLD Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------>
Help yourselves!

184 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:00:06am

re: #182 Mel Lono
lol

185 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:00:28am

re: #179 BlueCanuck

At least the fruit is easier to cut. ;)

BlueCanuck! :-)

If only I had a chainsaw...

186 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:00:58am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

VERY COLD Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------>
Help yourselves!

Morning Maam.

187 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:00:58am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady. I will just pour some hot chocolate over it to warm it up first.

/yummmmm

188 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:02:09am

Fenway! :-)

red! :-)

Rancher! :-) (rancher?)

BignJames! :-)

Mel! :-)

Erik! :-)

Stonemason! :-)

189 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:03:26am

Hot chocolate!

/sob!
//just pour it over my frozen fingers...

190 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:05:03am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

VERY COLD Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------>
Help yourselves!

Thanks lol.

191 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:05:18am

For conversion to kelvin its Deg C plus 273.15 just in case your curious. Kelvin scale starts at absolute 0.

192 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:05:25am

re: #189 littleoldlady

Hot chocolate!

/sob!
//just pour it over my frozen fingers...

Passing over the hot fudge kettle...:)


and a hand warmer for later...

plus a pair of electric socks...:)

193 stonemason  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:05:46am

re: #170 Mel Lono

Can I have that formula for C-F again? I'm always forgeting that one. 32 = 0 and then...


I cheated

194 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:05:52am

Rustler today LoL. But morning and thanks for fruit cup.

195 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:06:44am

re: #193 stonemason Lol you cheated and still got the kelvins wrong on 2nd temp : P.

196 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:07:24am

Dustyvet! :-)

Drowning myself in chocolate...

No wait. I do that EVERY day! ;-)

197 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:07:35am

re: #163 BlueCanuck

*WHACK*

Just for rubbing it in. -11° C here right now.

sucks to be you......

%-)

198 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:07:52am

Actually just inverted the 1 and 6.

199 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:07:52am

re: #195 Rancher

Lol you cheated and still got the kelvins wrong on 2nd temp : P.

Well even the Kelvins like to stay warm...:)

200 stonemason  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:07:56am

re: #171 Fenway_Nation

I'm sure that Eggles win yesterday afternooon might keep you warm.

/Cost me dearly in the football pool, but it's almost worth it to see both NY teams crash and burn today,

To me, any win this year is just another nail in our coffin that is made up of Donovan McNabb and Andy Reid. Neither one of them will win a big game, I think theya re still trying to figure out what to do with those time-outs they saved from that Super Bowl.

201 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:08:34am

re: #196 littleoldlady

Well there's your problem. You're supposed to eat it, not try to breath it. ;)

202 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:08:43am

44 degrees farenheit here atm nice cool morning.

203 stonemason  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:09:19am

re: #195 Rancher

Lol you cheated and still got the kelvins wrong on 2nd temp : P.


Yup dyslexic typer I am 261 k

204 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:10:43am

re: #166 Mel Lono

Given.. I have an uncle-in-law with a scotch cellar and an opinion. After the split, I haven't spoke to him in awhile so it would make a great conversation starter.

i would have stayed in touch with him, regardless.....

Rebel Yell & water, a Trader Joe's choice.

205 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:11:17am

re: #200 stonemason

Had to upding that one.

/as much as I hated to...

206 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:15:26am

I need a bowl pool. Does Charles have an connections?

207 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:16:56am

Woot Office Space is on now. I love this movie.

208 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:18:30am

re: #207 Rancher

Woot Office Space is on now. I love this movie.

*WHACK!*

/get a life

209 gregg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:18:33am

I guess I don't follow College Football close enough to understand the following:

Final BCS rankings:
1. Oklahoma
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. Alabama

I would think you would see bowl games with Oklahoma vs Florida and Texas vs Alabama. Those would be a couple of great games. But no, instead they have the following:

Oklahoma vs Florida
Texas vs Ohio State (#10)
Alabama vs Utah (#6)

210 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:19:24am

re: #206 Mel Lono

I need a bowl pool. Does Charles have an connections?

USC FTW!1!1!1!

211 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:19:49am

re: #205 littleoldlady

Had to upding that one.

/as much as I hated to...

re: #209 gregg

I guess I don't follow College Football close enough to understand the following:

Final BCS rankings:
1. Oklahoma
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. Alabama

I would think you would see bowl games with Oklahoma vs Florida and Texas vs Alabama. Those would be a couple of great games. But no, instead they have the following:

Oklahoma vs Florida
Texas vs Ohio State (#10)
Alabama vs Utah (#6)

Lions 6-Christians 0...

212 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:19:50am

Peter Gibbons: The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.
Bob Porter: Don't... don't care?
Peter Gibbons: It's a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime; so where's the motivation? And here's something else, Bob: I have eight different bosses right now.

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
Bob Slydell: I beg your pardon?
Peter Gibbons: Eight bosses.
Bob Slydell: Eight?
Peter Gibbons: Eight, Bob. So that means that when I make a mistake, I have eight different people coming by to tell me about it. That's my only real motivation is not to be hassled; that, and the fear of losing my job. But you know, Bob, that will only make someone work just hard enough not to get fired.
One of the best scenes in it.

213 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:19:57am

re: #207 Rancher

Woot Office Space is on now. I love this movie.

Watching Live and Let Die. "By the powers vested in me by this parish, I am hereby commandeering this vehicle and all those persons in it. And that means you, smart ass!"

214 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:21:07am

re: #209 gregg

I guess I don't follow College Football close enough to understand the following:

Final BCS rankings:
1. Oklahoma
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. Alabama

I would think you would see bowl games with Oklahoma vs Florida and Texas vs Alabama. Those would be a couple of great games. But no, instead they have the following:

Oklahoma vs Florida
Texas vs Ohio State (#10)
Alabama vs Utah (#6)

and USC, with the #1 defense anywhere in the NCAA, nowhere to be seen.

215 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:22:52am

Good Morning LGF.
-21C (-6F) here in the Great White North.
Colder than the milk from a witch's tit.

216 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:23:18am

re: #209 gregg

I guess I don't follow College Football close enough to understand the following:

Final BCS rankings:
1. Oklahoma
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. Alabama

I would think you would see bowl games with Oklahoma vs Florida and Texas vs Alabama. Those would be a couple of great games. But no, instead they have the following:

I like the Utah v. Bama matchup. They deserve to play at least the used-to-be unbeaten. I'm not an oddsman, but I give Utah 10 points.

Oklahoma vs Florida
Texas vs Ohio State (#10)
Alabama vs Utah (#6)

217 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:25:17am

re: #215 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.
-21C (-6F) here in the Great White North.
Colder than the milk from a witch's tit.

[Link: www.tvacres.com...]

218 gregg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:26:06am

re: #214 redc1c4

and USC, with the #1 defense anywhere in the NCAA, nowhere to be seen.

When the BCS was established, I believe the Rose Bowl received a guarantee that the PAC 10 and Big 11 winners would play in the Rose Bowl - the only exception is if one, or both, were in the national championship game.

But I do agree that USC playing any of the top four would be a great game.

219 Mel Lono  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:27:38am

re: #218 gregg

When the BCS was established, I believe the Rose Bowl received a guarantee that the PAC 10 and Big 11 winners would play in the Rose Bowl - the only exception is if one, or both, were in the national championship game.

But I do agree that USC playing any of the top four would be a great game.

Money plays..

220 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:29:50am

re: #215 Spare O'Lake

Man, and I thought we had it bad down here in the T dot.

221 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:31:45am

re: #215 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.
-21C (-6F) here in the Great White North.
Colder than the milk from a witch's tit.

sucks to be you: it's 0230 local, and i'm headed outside for another beer.

barefoot: temp report to follow.

222 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:34:47am

re: #221 redc1c4

sucks to be you: it's 0230 local, and i'm headed outside for another beer.

barefoot: temp report to follow.

There's a man with a death wish.

/reaching through my monitor to strangle...

223 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:37:52am

re: #220 BlueCanuck

Man, and I thought we had it bad down here in the T dot.

And 2 feet of snow on the ground.
Isn't autumn wonderful?

224 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:39:45am

re: #222 littleoldlady

There's a man with a death wish.

/reaching through my monitor to strangle...

yup: winter is *definitely* here.....

it';s only 53* out there! a person could get cold!

/the horror

225 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:40:45am

re: #224 redc1c4

yup: winter is *definitely* here.....

it';s only 53* out there! a person could get cold!

/the horror

I KEEL you!

226 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:40:56am

re: #223 Spare O'Lake

Technically it is. After the first of December, or the snow is permanent, it's winter in my books.

227 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:41:30am

re: #225 Spare O'Lake

Ease up on the threats, his card is full already.

/white smoke.

228 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:41:50am

re: #222 littleoldlady

There's a man with a death wish.

/reaching through my monitor to strangle...

Not going to say hi eh? Pouting on the coffee table...:)

229 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:42:22am

Fruitcup!

230 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:44:13am

re: #212 Rancher

Peter Gibbons: The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.
Bob Porter: Don't... don't care?
Peter Gibbons: It's a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime; so where's the motivation? And here's something else, Bob: I have eight different bosses right now.

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
Bob Slydell: I beg your pardon?
Peter Gibbons: Eight bosses.
Bob Slydell: Eight?
Peter Gibbons: Eight, Bob. So that means that when I make a mistake, I have eight different people coming by to tell me about it. That's my only real motivation is not to be hassled; that, and the fear of losing my job. But you know, Bob, that will only make someone work just hard enough not to get fired.
One of the best scenes in it.

That is a great scene- and when you think about it, it really speaks to the ills of bureaucracy.

231 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:45:29am

re: #225 Spare O'Lake

I KEEL you!

keep pouring the drinks: you'll get me sooner or later.

232 gregg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:47:35am

re: #223 Spare O'Lake

And 2 feet of snow on the ground.
Isn't autumn wonderful?

Via Watts up with that? Early snowfalls in Europe hit Historic Levels:

www.Skiinfo.com is following still more heavy snowfalls across Europe over the past 48 hours, with much more snow in other parts of Europe and many areas of North America too.

The snowfall has been so great that it has closed roads, brought down power lines and even led to the cancellation of some Swiss rail services this week.

One of the greatest beneficiaries are the Italian Dolomites where 150cm (five feet) has fallen at Cortina in a 48 hour period up to Monday, with snow still falling.

Alessandro Fregni of Skiinfo.com’s Italian office commented, “In three days ski areas have seen almost as much snowfall as for the whole winter last year.”

Five feet of snow in 48 hours - that's something I'd like to experience.

233 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:48:52am

re: #232 gregg

Damn global warming!

234 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:49:31am

re: #228 Dustyvet

Not going to say hi eh? Pouting on the coffee table...:)

You know that stuff you get in your eye...?
© Roseanne Rosannadanna

235 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:49:56am

Sharmuta! :-)

236 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:51:07am

re: #232 gregg

Ummmm, no you woudn't. Most I have experienced in one wall is three feet. Shoveled the driveway three times before I gave up. If I was working at the time I would've called in sick. Luckily I was in school and classes were cancelled for the day.

237 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:52:08am

re: #235 littleoldlady

Hi, {lol}!

238 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:53:43am

re: #225 Spare O'Lake

I KEEL you!

re: #232 gregg

Five feet of snow in 48 hours - that's something I'd like to experience.

from a distance, if you're s*ber, maybe:

besides 150cm is 1.5 meters, which isn't 5 feet, unless someone changed basic math.

239 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:54:04am

re: #237 Sharmuta

We missed you yesterday!

240 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:54:13am

re: #231 redc1c4

keep pouring the drinks: you'll get me sooner or later.

Now hold still, ya varmint!
*click*
Damn, frozen pin! LOL.

241 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:54:17am

re: #236 BlueCanuck


I experienced that while visiting my grandpa in upstate NY a few years back. It was actually kind of fun since we were reasonably well-prepared, had plenty of food, drink and firewood on hand and didn't really have anywhere pressing to go (it was a few days before Christmas).

If it was during the regular work-week, that's another story altogether....

242 gregg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:54:23am

re: #236 BlueCanuck

Ummmm, no you woudn't. Most I have experienced in one wall is three feet. Shoveled the driveway three times before I gave up. If I was working at the time I would've called in sick. Luckily I was in school and classes were cancelled for the day.

I guess I was picturing myself at a ski resort next to the fireplace watching the snow come down - someone else was doing the shoveling!

243 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:55:06am

re: #232 gregg

Five feet of snow in 48 hours - that's something I'd like to experience.

Just for you gregg
Diary of a snow shoveler

Dear Diary...

December 8 - 6:00 PM. It started to snow. The first snow of the season and the wife and I took our cocktails and sat for hours by the window watching the huge soft flakes drift down from heaven. It looked like a Grandma Moses Print. So romantic we felt like newlyweds again. I love snow!

December 9 - We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering every inch of the landscape. What a fantastic sight! Can there be a more lovely place in the Whole World? Moving here was the best idea I've ever had. Shoveled for the first time in years and felt like a boy again. I did both our driveway and the sidewalks. This afternoon the snowplow came along and covered up the sidewalks and closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again. What a perfect life.

December 12 - The sun has melted all our lovely snow. Such a disappointment. My neighbor tells me not to worry, we'll definitely have a white Christmas. No snow on Christmas would be awful! Bob says we'll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I'll never want to see snow again. l don't think that's possible. Bob is such a nice man, I'm glad he's our neighbor.

December 14 - Snow lovely snow! 8" last night. The temperature dropped to -20. The cold makes everything sparkle so. The wind took my breath away, but I warmed up by shoveling the driveway and sidewalks. This is the life! The snowplow came back this afternoon and buried everything again. I didn't realize I would have to do quite this much shoveling, but I'll certainly get back in shape this way. I wish l wouldn't huff and puff so.

December 15 - 20 inches forecast. Sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer. Bought snow tires for the wife's car and 2 extra shovels. Stocked the freezer. The wife wants a wood stove in case the electricity goes out. I think that's silly. We aren't in Alaska, after all.

December 16 - Ice storm this morning. Fell on my ass on the ice in the driveway putting down salt. Hurt like hell. The wife laughed for an hour, Which I think was very cruel.

December 17 - Still way below freezing. Roads are too icy to go anywhere. Electricity was off for 5 hours. I had to pile the blankets on to stay warm. Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to irritate her. Guess I should've bought a wood stove, but won't admit it to her. God I hate it when she's right. I can't believe I'm freezing to death in my own living room.

December 20 - Electricity's back on, but had another 14" of the damn stuff last night. More shoveling. Took all day. Goddamn snowplow came by twice. Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said they're too busy playing hockey. I think they're lying. Called the only hardware store around to see about buying a snow
blower and they're out. Might have another shipment in March. I think they're lying. Bob says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and bill me. I think he's lying.

cont...

244 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:55:17am

December 22 - Bob was right about a white Christmas because 13 more inches of the white sh#t fell today, and it's so cold it probably won't melt till August. Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go out to shovel and then I had to pee. By the time I got undressed, peed and dressed again. I was too tired to shovel. Tried to hire Bob who has a plow on his truck for the rest of the winter; but he says he's too busy. I think the bugger is lying.

December 23 - Only 2" of snow today. And it warmed up to 0. The wife wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning. What is she nuts! Why didn't she tell me to do that a month ago? She says she did but I think she's lying.

December 24 - 6". Snow packed so hard by snowplow, l broke the shovel. Thought I was having a heart attack. If I ever catch the s.o.b who drives that snow plow I'll drag him through the snow by his ankles and beat him to death with my broken shovel. I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish
shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I've just been! Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was too busy watching for the damn snowplow.

December 25 - Merry frigging Christmas! 20 more inches of the damn slop tonight. Snowed in. The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil. God I hate the snow! Then the snowplow driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel. The wife says I have a bad attitude. I think she's a fricking idiot. If I have to watch "It's A Wondeful Life" one more time, I'm going to stuff her into the microwave.

December 26 - Still snowed in. Why the hell did I ever move here? It was all HER idea. She's really getting on my nerves.

December 27 - Temperature dropped to -30 and the pipes froze, plumber came after 14 hours of waiting for him, he only charged me 1,400 to replace all my pipes.

December 28 - Warmed up to above -20. Still snowed in. THE BITCH is driving me crazy!

December 29 - 10 more inches. Bob says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in. That's the silliest thing I ever heard. How dumb does he think I am?

December 30 - Roof caved in. I beat up the snow plow driver and he is now suing me for a million dollars not only the beating I gave him but also for trying to shove the broken snow shovel up his ass. The wife went home to her mother. 9" predicted.

December 31 - I set fire to what's left of the house. No more shoveling.

January 8 - Feel so good. I just love those little white pills they keep giving me. Why am I tied to the bed?

245 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:55:55am

re: #239 littleoldlady

Awww- I missed you guys too!

But I've been a little under the weather, so I was getting some much needed sleep.

246 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:56:04am

re: #238 redc1c4

4.9 feet actually. Close enough for government work.

/still a lot of too much of the white stuff.

247 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:57:46am

re: #233 Fenway_Nation

Damn global warming!

Ha! Mrs. O'Lake told me yesterday that it IS global warming - just not here...or there...or anywhere...right now.

248 gregg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:58:35am

re: #241 Fenway_Nation

I experienced that while visiting my grandpa in upstate NY a few years back. It was actually kind of fun since we were reasonably well-prepared, had plenty of food, drink and firewood on hand and didn't really have anywhere pressing to go (it was a few days before Christmas).

If it was during the regular work-week, that's another story altogether....

I actually like snow with the exception of having to drive on snow covered highways/freeways. Nothing brings out my road rage more than some dork a few feet off my back bumper in hazardous conditions.

249 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:59:11am

re: #240 Spare O'Lake

Now hold still, ya varmint!
*click*
Damn, frozen pin! LOL.

graphite is your friend, up there near Rice Lake.

250 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:00:18am

re: #245 Sharmuta

{Sharmuta!}

Easy weather to get under. :-(
Hope you feel better soon!
Zicam®
/if it's not too late...and if it's not the flu!

251 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:03:03am

re: #232 gregg

Five feet of snow in 48 hours - that's something I'd like to experience.

Ummm.... Blizzards are not fun.

252 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:04:49am

TEN teams from the ACC qualified for a Bowl Game!?

Looks like they knew what they were doing when Boston College joined up w/the conference a few years back.

253 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:05:18am

re: #249 redc1c4

Wrong county. :)

/but it's still the same diff.

254 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:05:27am

re: #249 redc1c4

graphite is your friend, up there near Rice Lake.

Rice Lake was my first time fishing as a young kid.
My cousin made me a rod out of a cut branch with a tied-on piece of line and a bobber over a hook baited with a little piece of worm.
Caught a shit-load of sunfish and perch.

255 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:06:21am

re: #250 littleoldlady

I was thinking Zicam, but if you tell me to, then I have to try it. Thanks, lol!

256 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:11:51am

re: #254 Spare O'Lake

We used to rent the house boats from there and go up the Trent-Severn canal system every spring. Fond memories of that. Did the same as well with the fishing.

257 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:11:53am

Hope I don't get the whack for this one.
Won't See This List on Ltterman:

Our troops in Afghanistan prove they've retained their sense of humor with the following 'YOU MAY BE A TALIBAN IF...'

1. You refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to beer.
2. You own a $3,000 machine gun and $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can't afford shoes.
3. You have more wives than teeth.
4. You wipe your butt with your bare left hand, but consider bacon 'unclean.'
5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.
6. You can't think of anyone you HAVEN'T declared Jihad against.
7. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.
8. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.
9. You've often uttered the phrase, 'I love what you've done with your cave.'
10. You have nothing against women and think every man should own at least one.
11. You bathe at least monthly whether necessary or not.
12. You have a crush on your neighbor's goat.

258 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:14:33am

re: #257 Erik The Red

The scary part about that is that most of that is true.

/sad, sad, sad sacks.

259 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:16:40am

re: #255 Sharmuta

Zicam is best used at the beginning of a head cold - those first couple of days where you need to be functioning, but you're not. After that it really does shorten the duration. BUT, you need to drink a lot of fluids, especially if you're a smoker, or you'll end up with a longer chest cold.

260 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:16:52am

Big Beef must be punished for their polluting ways.

261 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:19:25am

Good morning, Lizards.

262 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:20:23am

re: #260 Rancher
Btw looks like $175 per cow and $20 per pig

263 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:20:32am

re: #260 Rancher

Big Beef must be punished for their polluting ways.

WTF? Are we next if we let one off in the streets? Do some people sit the whole day trying to come up with the most stupidest ways to try and tax us even more. Asshole's

264 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:20:44am

Morning Goddess.

265 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:22:03am

Good morning goddess.

266 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:22:04am

re: #261 goddessoftheclassroom

Morning.

267 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:22:13am

re: #262 Rancher

Btw looks like $175 per cow and $20 per pig

What a load of manure!

268 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:22:42am

On a serious note, in the story, the farmer featured complained about how such a tax would hurt him financially. While that may be true, it should be irrelevant. If there is truly an externality here and it can be effectively measured and properly implemented, then there should be a tax on cows in the amount that is equivalent to the negative harm done per cow. That's all that matters. It all hinges on the extent to which cows cause global warming and the extent to which global warming harms society. I'm not in a position to answer that question, but just because it may harm a farmer doesn't mean it's bad policy.

So wtf is the author gonna say when a cheapo burger costs 3-4 times what it used to because noone can afford to raise beef anymore. American beef gonna be priced like Japanese Kobe beef.

269 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:22:57am

goddess! :-)

270 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:23:26am

re: #268 Rancher
First paragraph shoulda been quoted sorry its from the first linked article with the video.

271 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:24:04am

re: #261 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Hey there, teach.

272 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:24:12am

re: #260 Rancher

Oh great, the farmer is now an evil man because they raise live stock. I can't wait until the glaciers start moving to end all this lunacy on global warming.

273 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:26:12am

Saw this last week and could not believe it. How can congress look at themselves in the mirror?
Earmarks vs protecting our soldiers?

274 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:26:30am

Hi, goddess. I thought of you earlier as I was singing "put yourself in mortal peril..."

;)

275 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:28:37am

Saudi mufti says credit crunch due to ignoring God's rules

Saudi Arabia's grand cleric on Sunday told Muslims on the hajj pilgrimage that the global financial crisis stems from ignoring God's rules and allowing "riba" or usury, prohibited in Islam.

"Today we watch as this financial crisis enfolds and some companies and banks go bankrupt," grand mufti Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh said at the Namera mosque, where prophet Mohammed prayed while making the pilgrimage.

"This is the result of ignoring God's rules. Muslims must abide by God's rules, and build their economies accordingly," Sheikh told the faithful before midday prayers.

So, basically it's the infidels' fault because their not muslims.

276 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:29:09am

Y'all make me feel so warm and cozy!

I've had a week of Friday the 13ths, but I'm thankful the setbacks weren't more serious (including a car accident on ice in which angels kept me from going through a guard raid head first into a creek). So regardless of the expenses, frustrations, and inconveniences, I am blessed in so many ways, not the least of which are my Lizard friends.

277 right_on_target  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:29:14am

re: #85 Catttt

I don't remember for sure, and I know you are teasing me - but it was cheap. Maybe a quarter, including transfers - possibly 50 cents. Phone calls were still a nickel - This was the 70s - things were cheaper there than elsewhere.


_________________________
New Orleans area was last to have the nickel phone call, until the 1980s. One could hardly find a phone BOOTH, but there were plenty of phone STALLS.

Streetcar and buses were seven cents until the early 60s when it went to ten cents [free transfer]. If you knew how to do it right you could almost get back to your originating point with the transfers.

Streetcar and bus fare is over a dollar now and the transfers are extra. Best buy for a native is the monthly pass for unlimited travel. When I lived in the city I didn't need a car. The only problem now is that the transit schedules are so screwed up where in the past the buses and streetcars would follow each other almost five minutes apart!

278 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:29:40am

re: #272 BlueCanuck

Oh great, the farmer is now an evil man because they raise live stock. I can't wait until the glaciers start moving to end all this lunacy on global warming.

The only thing I have a problem with are the huge mega-farms.
If you've ever been downwind of one of those vast pig operations you would know what I mean.

279 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:30:06am

Good Morning Lizards.

280 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:32:14am

re: #278 Spare O'Lake
It's usually the feed lots and slaughter houses you smell.

281 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:32:36am

Morning Opnion.

282 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:33:07am

re: #260 Rancher

Big Beef must be punished for their polluting ways.


A spokesman for PETA says that we can lower our carbon footprint by becoming Vegetarians.

283 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:34:00am

re: #278 Spare O'Lake

re: #280 Rancher

It's usually the feed lots and slaughter houses you smell.

Either that, or the anuual Rosie O'Donnell/ Michael Moore All You Can Eat Pig Fest

284 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:34:17am

re: #280 Rancher

It's usually the feed lots and slaughter houses you smell.

Don't get downwind from a rendering plant.

285 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:34:48am

re: #282 opnion

A spokesman for PETA says that we can lower our carbon footprint by becoming Vegetarians.

Thye'll have to take my steak from my cold dead hands !

286 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:35:14am

re: #276 goddessoftheclassroom

OY! {goddess!}

287 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:35:58am

re: #282 opnion

Was about to bring that point up too. In fact I wonder who sponsered this idea in the first place. All this talk about AGW and lowering our carbon footprint seems to resemble a form of ludditism. "Get back to nature", "consume less", "Technology is wrong". Think about that for a bit and see if I am wrong.

288 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:36:14am

re: #285 sattv4u2

Thye'll have to take my steak from my cold dead hands !

Yeah, I'm not goin tofu.

289 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:37:37am

re: #288 opnion

Nothing wrong with tofu at all. But I am not going to use it for my source of protein.

290 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:37:49am

opnion! :-)

I [verybigsigh] have to get to workie [evenbiggerverybigsigh] :-/

Good day, ALL!™

Dustyvet - have a great day!
b/f AND italic so's you don't miss it! ;-)

291 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:37:50am

Well I am sitting in the Atlanta airport reading that Douglas Adams isn't all that funny.

Not even the Vogons? Come on - what person with libertarian leanings can't see the Vogons as quintessential bureaucrats? The whole idea that a planet can get blown up to make way for a highway, and that a hearing had been announced an held in another star system so - sorry Humans - our hands are tied!

How better for Earthlings to be introduced to alien life? They are just like us.

And the lab mice running the massive experiment called Earth?

Adams also took the sometimes pompous genre of SciFi and altered it in a mind bending way.

JMO.

292 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:38:40am

re: #286 littleoldlady

OY! {goddess!}

{littleoldlady}

I need all the hugs and prayers I can get at the moment! I'm taking the care to a repair shop today for an estimate, and I'm prepared for the worst. I don't want to file an insurance claim--it will hike my rates or get me dropped. No other car was involved. so I'm going to steel myself to deal with this.

I just paid the car off last month, too!

293 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:38:50am

Beef and pork Prices from today. Prices shown are per 100 pounds if I recall right and nothing has changed in last 10 years since I had to worry about it.
Rustler

294 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:38:54am

re: #288 opnion

Yeah, I'm not goin tofu.

re: #289 BlueCanuck

Nothing wrong with tofu at all. But I am not going to use it for my source of protein.

Cept for a few pieces in Hot and Sour Soup when I get Chinese, I don
t think I've ever had it

295 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:39:01am

re: #287 BlueCanuck

Was about to bring that point up too. In fact I wonder who sponsered this idea in the first place. All this talk about AGW and lowering our carbon footprint seems to resemble a form of ludditism. "Get back to nature", "consume less", "Technology is wrong". Think about that for a bit and see if I am wrong.

I think that it plays in to the notion that humanity is the problem.
If we were'nt here the critters would live in harmony,you know , they wouldn't hunt each other down or anything.

296 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:39:06am

re: #279 opnion

Good Morning Lizards.

Morning

297 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:40:08am

re: #292 goddessoftheclassroom
Ouch GL with the repairman. And hope your ok.

298 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:40:59am

Bye littleoldlady. Take care of yourself today, and stay warm.

299 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:41:24am

re: #292 goddessoftheclassroom

{littleoldlady}

I need all the hugs and prayers I can get at the moment! I'm taking the care to a repair shop today for an estimate, and I'm prepared for the worst. I don't want to file an insurance claim--it will hike my rates or get me dropped. No other car was involved. so I'm going to steel myself to deal with this.

I just paid the car off last month, too!


If it's drivable, why even bother? Nothing wrong with a cosmetically unappealing ride! Heaven knows in my lifetime I've driven somme Fugly cars !

300 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:41:32am

re: #292 goddessoftheclassroom

See if you can get a second estimate as well. How bad was the damage?

301 right_wing2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:42:05am

re: #275 Sharmuta

And while carefully ignoring the fact that the per capita income under Islamic countries tends to be in the cr-pper.

302 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:42:14am

Obama was asked yesterday by Brokaw if he has quit smoking.
He said yes, but sometimes falls off of the wagon. Sooo, he is saying, I don't except when I do.

303 Buster Bunny  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:42:28am

re: #295 opnion

I think that it plays in to the notion that humanity is the problem.
If we were'nt here the critters would live in harmony,you know , they wouldn't hunt each other down or anything.

Thats socialism for you. Its a continual interpretation that people are the problem for going out and doing things to advance humanity. If only we'd gone and tended the stables. Its first incarnation was during the Industrial Revolution as a 'return to nature' antic. And yes, even at that stage it came with fears about changing the climate and pollution killing the world.

304 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:42:30am

re: #292 goddessoftheclassroom

I just paid the car off last month, too!

Ouch. Hope things improve for you.

305 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:43:09am

re: #302 opnion

Obama was asked yesterday by Brokaw if he has quit smoking.
He said yes, but sometimes falls off of the wagon. Sooo, he is saying, I don't except when I do.

Watch me quit posting at LGF.

306 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:43:21am

There. I quit.

307 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:43:32am

There. I quit again.

308 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:43:39am

re: #306 karmic_inquisitor

There. I quit.

welcome back ,,,,, see ya soon

309 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:43:40am

re: #302 opnion
But we can trust him and take his word on important issues. During hte campaign it was all about I have quit smoking. Now it's I sometimes fall off the wagon but the white house will remain smoke free because there are plenty of balconies.

310 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:43:49am

re: #305 karmic_inquisitor

Watch me quit posting at LGF.

You can't can you?

/Hi my name is Blue, and I have a problem. ;)

311 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:43:52am

See? I can quit whenever I want.

312 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:45:07am

re: #311 karmic_inquisitor

Keep that up and we will turn you in for flashing.

/or go even faster and become a strobe.

313 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:46:02am

Actually Obama doesn't smoke the Cigarette does all the smoking Obama just occasionally inhales the smoke to enable him to relax.

314 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:46:22am

So we have another tobacco user in the oval office. At least this one isn't..... sharing his tobacco product with the interns.

315 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:46:40am

re: #301 right_wing2

And while carefully ignoring the fact that the per capita income under Islamic countries tends to be in the cr-pper.

Yeah OK, they don't live as well economically as Satanic Infidels, but they do get some Bennie's. They can participate in stonings & attend camel beauty contests.

316 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:46:47am

Can you tell that I am drinking coffee right now? Huh? Huh? Can you?

317 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:47:29am

re: #316 karmic_inquisitor

Can you tell that I am drinking coffee right now? Huh? Huh? Can you?

I thought you quit!

318 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:47:49am

re: #301 right_wing2

And while carefully ignoring the fact that the per capita income under Islamic countries tends to be in the cr-pper.

Well, to be fair- he's a cleric, not an economist.

319 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:47:55am

re: #309 Rancher

But we can trust him and take his word on important issues. During hte campaign it was all about I have quit smoking. Now it's I sometimes fall off the wagon but the white house will remain smoke free because there are plenty of balconies.

It's a small thing, but why the charade? Just say , yes I smoke.

320 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:48:02am

re: #314 Sharmuta
I feel for the intern if he does I mean Michelle doesn't appear to have the Political motivation for forgiveness that Hillary was forced to adopt for her ambitions. Might be the first time Secret Service has to rescue the Pres from the frst lady.

321 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:48:12am

re: #313 Rancher

Or as I say to my non-smoking friends. I am not a smoker, I am just the sucker at the other end.

322 right_wing2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:48:26am

re: #315 opnion

Marry goats, enjoy the company of 9 year olds...

323 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:48:50am

re: #320 Rancher

Wrong intern, thing back about three terms.

324 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:48:51am

I drove the car home, but the front headlight is dangling, and the front bumper and grill are gone. I don't think it's "street worthy."

It's scary how much of it was just plastic and styrofoam. On a good note, the airbag didn't deploy, so I don't have that expense!

Got to run, dear Lizards. Thanks for the good wishes!

325 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:48:53am

re: #280 Rancher

It's usually the feed lots and slaughter houses you smell.

I'm no expert, but I've read that a farm of 3,000 pigs can produce as much waste as a town of 10,000 people.
Apparently a farm of 3,000 sows can produce 65,000 pigs per year.
Really, really, nasty waste problems.
Needless to say, these operations bear no resemblance to the 100 acre family farms that we all knew and loved in the past (up here in Ontario, anyways).

326 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:49:06am

re: #321 BlueCanuck
Haha great one.

327 Buster Bunny  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:49:19am

re: #322 right_wing2

Marry goats, enjoy the company of 9 year olds...

If you marry a goat .. does that allow for kids later on?

328 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:49:26am

re: #320 Rancher

The 0bamas seem happy. I don't think we'll see that problem arise.

329 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:49:48am

re: #319 opnion

It's a small thing, but why the charade? Just say , yes I smoke.

Image, op,,,, Image. His whole entire campaign for Pres was about one thing ,, IMAGE !

330 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:50:02am

re: #323 BlueCanuck
Hmm? I waas thinking Monica.

331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:52:05am

Hmmmm. What did I say yesterday? On the Africa Nucular Thread?

Every time they make something idiot proof, they go and invent better idiots.

This was planted in Charles' mind yesterday, then he went and found a better source than I. Wonder how many other famous people I plagiarized from yesterday?

Think I'll go "internettin'"

332 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:52:31am

re: #330 Rancher

Okay, eyes must be getting tired then. Miss read your post. Sorry about that.

333 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:53:26am

re: #332 BlueCanuck

You need to keep outta red's fixin's.

334 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:53:27am

re: #329 sattv4u2

Image, op,,,, Image. His whole entire campaign for Pres was about one thing ,, IMAGE !


True, it his supporters that don't even like people smoking outside of the building, freezing. They want them in the street.

335 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:53:52am

re: #303 Buster Bunny


Isn't that the basic premise of the new The Day The Earth Stood Still movie?

336 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:53:59am

re: #331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hmmmm. What did I say yesterday? On the Africa Nucular Thread?

Every time they make something idiot proof, they go and invent better idiots.

This was planted in Charles' mind yesterday, then he went and found a better source than I. Wonder how many other famous people I plagiarized from yesterday?

Think I'll go "internettin'"

A variant that a client of mine once said -

"A system that is idiot proof will only be used by idiots."

337 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:54:32am

re: #331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Engineers Maxim I think is the term. "It's the engineer's duty to make the product as idiot proof as possible." It's the universes duty to try to come up with a worse(better?) idiot. So far the universe is winning.

338 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:55:32am

What ever happened to survival of the fittest?

339 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:56:44am

re: #338 NYCHardhat

What ever happened to survival of the fittest?

The fit built a world of prosperity, health and casualty insurance.

340 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:57:05am

re: #338 NYCHardhat

What ever happened to survival of the fittest?

Too many parents feeding too many kids too many Big Macs!

341 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:57:26am

Well - gotta catch a flight.

342 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:57:35am

re: #333 Sharmuta

Never touch the stuff while I am working. I think I over extended myself on Saturday, and only got a few hours sleep yesterday.

/that's my story and I am sticking to it.

343 Buster Bunny  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:57:57am

re: #338 NYCHardhat

What ever happened to survival of the fittest?

The fittest wont eat at McDonalds. Since in a lot of places the only eateries left after this 'recession' will be a couple of Starbucks and McDonalds .. the fittest are screwed. They will have no place to eat. And coffee aint nutritious.

344 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:58:05am

There is a guy on FNC right now. He is a 'Christian" with an organization that helps the less fortunate. OK so far, but they are doing this by providing trips to Obama's Inauguration.

345 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:59:01am

re: #339 karmic_inquisitor

The fit built a world of prosperity, health and casualty insurance.

re: #340 sattv4u2

Too many parents feeding too many kids too many Big Macs!

The fit (with their casualty insurance) are watering down the genetic pool with folks out of Plan 9 From Outer Space.

346 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:00:48am

re: #338 NYCHardhat

Narrator: As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.

Great opening Narration from Idiocracy.

347 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:00:51am

re: #344 opnion

There is a guy on FNC right now. He is a 'Christian" with an organization that helps the less fortunate. OK so far, but they are doing this by providing trips to Obama's Inauguration.

I actually have no problem with that. If they (the Christian Org) is using their own money and/ or resources (transportation, housing, etc) to allow someone to witness a Presidential Inauguration

348 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:01:07am

re: #338 NYCHardhat

What ever happened to survival of the fittest?

Someone tried to slip in an "intelligently" designed replacement?

349 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:02:12am

re: #346 Rancher

Narrator: As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.

Great opening Narration from Idiocracy.

I f*cking love that movie. Justin Long as the doctor is a classic.

350 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:03:17am

re: #348 Sharmuta

Someone tried to slip in an "intelligently" designed replacement?

I knew that one was coming. And a good morning to you dear.

351 Buster Bunny  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:03:46am

re: #335 Fenway_Nation

Isn't that the basic premise of the new The Day The Earth Stood Still movie?

Its a continual reinforcement usually by affluent people who have never worked a day in their life .. or by unemployed ... again who have never worked a day in their life. That all this striving and achieving is bad for mankind and can be solved of course, by ELIMINATING the bad people. You know the ones who work and earn and pay the bills so that you can come up with dickhead theories.

Again and again in history it comes around. Sometimes its peasants, sometimes its a counterstrike against an existing regime .. but its almost always the same. And if a comparison is used against other socialist ideas .. the answer is almost always the same.

THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT.

352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:04:08am

Heck! I'd love to see a Presidential Inauguration. But only if I could be coptered in and coptered out. I believe there'll be over a couple of million people there.

I am happy for the ones who are willing to sacrifice to go see this history.

I'm sure they will have an idiot proof way to move people in and out of town.

353 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:04:09am

re: #347 sattv4u2

I actually have no problem with that. If they (the Christian Org) is using their own money and/ or resources (transportation, housing, etc) to allow someone to witness a Presidential Inauguration

Yeah, they are doing it with donations, not taxpayer funds.
It included transportation, three nights hotel,inaugural tickets, a Martin Luther King prayer breakfast & more. I'm just thinking that they could use the cash.

354 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:04:22am

re: #349 NYCHardhat
Was just answering your What happened to survival of the fittest. But I love that movie speaking of which I'm off to starbucks for a "Latte".
Rustler

355 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:04:24am

re: #347 sattv4u2

That strikes me as a poor example of Christian charity. That money would be better off helping people in need. Especially this time of year.

356 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:04:42am

re: #350 NYCHardhat

You baited me!

357 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:05:48am

re: #340 sattv4u2
If this Per unit tax on cows and pigs goes thru kiss your bacon and burgers bye bye.

358 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:05:51am

re: #354 Rancher

Was just answering your What happened to survival of the fittest. But I love that movie speaking of which I'm off to starbucks for a "Latte".
Rustler

It's a great answer to a stupid question.

359 Buster Bunny  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:06:18am

re: #355 Sharmuta

That strikes me as a poor example of Christian charity. That money would be better off helping people in need. Especially this time of year.

I have got to the stage where i literally nearly puke every time i see someone with a cheque going to the UN 'children' charities. That money is funnelled into further war efforts in Palestine etc etc. I gag every time i see one of those cheques to the 'cause'.

360 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:06:43am

re: #356 Sharmuta

You baited me!

I wish I could.
;)

361 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:07:03am

re: #355 Sharmuta
They seem to be asking Hospitals and the Local VA for names of people who might qualify as not being able to go on their own, but are interested in seeing history happen.

362 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:08:08am

re: #355 Sharmuta

That strikes me as a poor example of Christian charity. That money would be better off helping people in need. Especially this time of year.

I'd be willing to bet that org has given and continues too give far more to more traditional charitable causes (food banks, homeless shelters, secret Santas, etc). Like Obama or not, it is a historical event

363 Pietr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:08:35am

re: #327 Buster Bunny

Very Pun-ny....LOL.

364 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:08:53am

re: #359 Buster Bunny

Hypocrites abound, and it truly is disgusting to see people use children in such a manner.

365 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:10:18am

re: #357 Rancher

If this Per unit tax on cows and pigs goes thru kiss your bacon and burgers bye bye.

Why? I can afford to pay more for my bacon and burgers! Either that, or I have options
A) don't eat bacon and burgers as oftern
B) buy/ eat bacon and burgers at less expensive places (I haven't been to a McDonalds/Burger King/ Wendys in years)

366 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:12:24am

So the gnomes have returned from another unsuccessful raid into Sharmuta's dresser : ( Still stuck on phase 1.

367 Buster Bunny  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:12:32am

re: #364 Sharmuta

Hypocrites abound, and it truly is disgusting to see people use children in such a manner.

What gets me .. and continually irks me is a group of morons who literally believe that the UN can do no wrong ! Despite the times we've been to them to have THEM get things right and they continually screw that up, there is a crowd that thinks the UN should run the world. And that would be the end of the world as we know it. Decadent Despotism Doesnt Deliver Dick(anything).

368 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:12:43am

re: #362 sattv4u2

That's all fine and good that they are (possibly) an legit organization. I wouldn't know if they are or not, since I don't know their name.

But I have to question if this is rendering to God or Caesar. I could really give a shit about the history- there are people in real need. What do you think Jesus would be more concerned about?

369 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:13:55am

re: #368 Sharmuta
True the 1 million dollars being spent could be better spent elsewhere.

370 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:16:43am

Fox just ran a brief story about a factory that will not pay its employees back wages due to Bank of America's doing something or other. CBBHO chimed in.

One of the protestors at the factory was sporting a sign that had COREteachers.com on it. I found this:

A group of dedicated teachers, Retirees, PSRPs and other champions of public education. We hope to democratize the Chicago Teacher's Union and turn it into an organization that fights on behalf of its members and the students we teach.

We have seen an 18 percent drop in Chicago Teachers Union membership in recent years and charter schools now control close to 10 percent of the system. What is our union leadership doing?

What is a teachers' union doing at a factory protest?

371 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:17:57am

re: #368 Sharmuta

That's all fine and good that they are (possibly) an legit organization. I wouldn't know if they are or not, since I don't know their name.

But I have to question if this is rendering to God or Caesar. I could really give a shit about the history- there are people in real need. What do you think Jesus would be more concerned about?

It's not like they're taking their money and giving it to Obama (Caesar) And it is, after all, THEIR money. Again, I have no problem with that! See Ranchers #361. They are seeking names of people in VA facilities that would LOVE to go.

372 3 wood  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:18:02am

Good morning.

Look for the market to open up this morning as the DOW Future is up 2.3%, the S&P up 2.7% and the NASDAQ up 2.2%.

The Nikkei is up 4.2% and the Hang Seng is up 8.6% (or 1198 points).

Expect the MSM to give credit to Obama.

373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:18:43am

re: #356 Sharmuta

NYC's a master at that.

374 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:18:49am

re: #370 MandyManners

The Peace and Justice caucus in the American Federation of Teachers held a roundtable discussion on "Fighting Back in the Schools" during the July 2008 AFT Convention in Chicago. Labor Beat edited excerpts from those presentations, including dramatic footage of student protests, in the face of police repression, against the privatization of the public schools in Detroit and St. Louis. The message is clear: public education, a long-fought-for gain of the working class over the last century and a half, is targeted for annihilation by corporate America...

Do I smell an Ayers?

375 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:19:54am

re: #370 MandyManners

They're unions. It's their obligation to show up at any protest in support of the left side of politics. Just like here on Saturday. MSM reports said that 3,000 people showed up for the Pro rally (left), while 500 showed up for the anti rally (right). The pro rally was packed with union members.

/have the picture and video to prove it.

376 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:21:31am

re: #371 sattv4u2

It's not like they're taking their money and giving it to Obama (Caesar) And it is, after all, THEIR money. Again, I have no problem with that! See Ranchers #361. They are seeking names of people in VA facilities that would LOVE to go.

Indeed- they are free to do what they want with their money.

And I'm free to think they're shitty Christians for putting 0bama ahead of real people in need.

377 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:22:53am

re: #370 MandyManners

A partner site, SubstanceNews.

[Link: www.substancenews.net...]

What have we here? Under the Resistance News section are two diatribes against No Child Left Behind.

378 jim in virginia  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:23:04am

Good morning lizards!
It's colder than a sorceress's mammary here today!

379 Pietr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:23:40am

The Greenies latest 'sneak attacks', Re Carbon footprint, is to eliminate CO2 emission...so basically we are supposed to all stop breathing! Their satirical ads, Re 'Clean Coal', have been running heavily here, even tho the USA has the toughest standards for stack emissions in the world. We also developed the best 'stack scrubbers'-they make 'em just down the road from me, here in San Antonio. These scrubbers clean the emissions to mostly oxygen and CO2-and this isn't good enough for greenies. Maybe we should point out to them that the vegetation REQUIRES CO2, to produce oxygen-not really. They know it full well, and count on ignorance to help them push their agenda. Penn and Teller got TONS of greenies to sign petitions against WATER-by describing it, but not saying it was water.

380 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:23:44am

re: #282 opnion

A spokesman for PETA says that we can lower our carbon footprint by becoming Vegetarians.

What's invisible and smells like carrots...Bunny farts...

381 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:26:16am

They don't like CBBHO much.

Prepared for The Peace and Justice Caucus of the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) Chicago, July 13, 2008, and delivered in part during the session sponsored by the Peace and Justice Caucus.

Barack Obama’s Education Platform ADVOCATES: More accountability; Higher standards; More money for NCLB; Merit pay (“teachers…who consistently excel in the classroom”).

Barack Obama's Education Platform ASSERTS: The single most important factor in determining a child’s achievement is. . . “You teachers”. . . NOT parent income (July 13, 2008, address via satellite to AFT Convention).

This agenda should qualify Barack Obama for a seat at the Business Roundtable. This agenda certainly raises a few questions about the AFT:

Why did the attendees give these remarks applause? Why did many people even stand up and while they applauded? Why didn’t AFT hold Obama’s feet to the fire and try to leverage a better position on these issues—instead of, like NEA, issuing a knee-jerk, blanket endorsement?

The unions are in ‘business as usual’ mode with their corporate-politico bedfellows.

SNIP

382 jim in virginia  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:26:42am

re: #377 MandyManners
From one of the posts there:

As a former Peace Corps volunteer in Costa Rica 76-78, where they have no military, and therefore no wars...


Sigh. These people are teaching employed by the public schools

383 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:27:02am

re: #376 Sharmuta

Indeed- they are free to do what they want with their money.

And I'm free to think they're shitty Christians for putting 0bama ahead of real people in need.

Will you feel as adamant if in 2012 for Palin inauguration a Christian Group pays for people that can't afford it to see the 1st woman in our history sworn in?

384 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:27:27am

re: #379 Pietr

The greens have another problem on their hands- melting ice might be good!

Melting ice may slow global warming

Collapsing antarctic ice sheets, which have become potent symbols of global warming, may actually turn out to help in the battle against climate change and soaring carbon emissions.

Science is cool.

385 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:29:54am

re: #383 sattv4u2

Will you feel as adamant if in 2012 for Palin inauguration a Christian Group pays for people that can't afford it to see the 1st woman in our history sworn in?

Yes.

386 Buster Bunny  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:30:59am

re: #380 Dustyvet

What's invisible and smells like carrots...Bunny farts...

HMPH

387 jim in virginia  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:31:07am

re: #382 jim in virginia

From one of the posts there:

Sigh. These people are teaching employed by the public schools

I need more coffee

388 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:32:27am

At the heart of their beefs about curriculum is a hatred of corporate America, and they don't want:

• Outcome-based education

• Strong & complex assessments

• Rewards & penalties for schools

• Emphasis on staff development

• Establishment of Pre-K programs

• High expectations for all children

• Greater use of technology

• Provision of social health services

389 Pietr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:33:10am

re: #387 jim in virginia

It should be in the Pot on the counter-right by the fruitcups. Let me know if it's low, I'll make a fresh pot.

390 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:33:14am

re: #383 sattv4u2

Look- they have the right to do this with their money- I just don't think it's being spent on something worthy of being called "Christian charity".

391 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:35:17am

re: #385 Sharmuta

Yes.

I guess I better tell the Mens Club at my church not to pay for and take the group of low income kids to the play "Scrooge" and pixxa after it because that money should go to helping people in need

392 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:35:48am

re: #388 MandyManners

The great dumbing down of Americas schools.

/and I include Canada in that as well.

393 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:35:52am

SubstanceNews.net's logo is an apple with a raised fist inside.

394 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:36:12am

re: #379 Pietr Ahh the old Dihydrogen monoxide gag I still love it to this day.

395 Happy Fun Ball  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:36:40am

How's this name for the birth certificate kooks:

nerfherders

As in, "low-down, stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerfherder".

396 96RoadKing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:36:59am

re: #384 Sharmuta
Damn. Every time my hopes rise that Global Warming will have an effect north of the Mason Dixon Line, something comes up to crush my hopes and dreams.

Oh, well. Time to go out and fire up the snowblower.

397 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:37:16am

re: #391 sattv4u2
The thing is a lot of those kids need the break from there lives noone really needs to see Obama inaugurated live.

398 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:37:25am

Peace and Justice video.

399 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:37:28am
400 3 wood  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:37:31am

re: #370 MandyManners

Fox just ran a brief story about a factory that will not pay its employees back wages due to Bank of America's doing something or other.

The Company closed down and B of A will not let them borrow more money (which will probably never be repaid) to meet the payroll.

The owners owe the payroll, they just can't borrow more to pay it.

The laid off workers should just go to court and get their money a they will have a primary claim on the assets.

Why the teachers union is there I have no idea.

401 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:37:49am

These folks are Communists.

402 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:38:02am

Well, my relief is here and it's time for me to go. Stay scaly everyone, and today especially stay warm.

403 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:38:17am

I won't have my TV's on on January 21st at all unless i find something good on HBO or put in a movie.

404 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:38:37am

re: #400 3 wood

The Company closed down and B of A will not let them borrow more money (which will probably never be repaid) to meet the payroll.

The owners owe the payroll, they just can't borrow more to pay it.

The laid off workers should just go to court and get their money a they will have a primary claim on the assets.

Why the teachers union is there I have no idea.

My subsequent posts might explain why.

405 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:38:37am

re: #403 Rancher
20TH probably 21 too tho

406 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:39:29am

re: #397 Rancher

The thing is a lot of those kids need the break from there lives noone really needs to see Obama inaugurated live.

You're the one that stated they're soliciting people that are in Hospitals or VA residences! you don't think THEY need a break from there/ And if those people expressed a desire to go !?!

Sort of reminds me of The Childrens Wish Foundation!

407 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:41:19am

Oh noes everyone beware of DHMO

408 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:43:37am

re: #4 zombie

This is a group therapy session, right? Complete honesty -- right?

OK. I confess.

I never liked Douglas Adams. At all. I found him, and his entire style of humor, utterly unfunny. Straight mouth. Not even a smile. Not once.

You're undead to me.

409 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:43:54am

re: #406 sattv4u2

Yes I said that but none of those people really need to go watch Bambi inaugurated I think its great they are doing the VA and Hospital thing but that Million dollars is better spent elsewhere. Just because there is some good in it doesn't mean it isn't a total waste of those donated dollars. And as far as I know the million was for the transport and venue costs they are seeking help from DoD, the VA and other organizations to house the attendees.

410 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:46:06am

re: #409 Rancher

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I just don't see anything insidious about it

411 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:48:08am
412 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:48:20am

There is nothing insidious about it I just feel and I think Sharm feels the same way that there is more good to be had in applying the money in other places.
///Like combatting the widespread use of DHMO.

413 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:49:58am

re: #412 Rancher

There is nothing insidious about it I just feel and I think Sharm feels the same way that there is more good to be had in applying the money in other places.
///Like combating the widespread use of DHMO.

Damn ,, I'm sure the Pizza my mens club will be buying those kids after the play will be loaded with DHMO.

I'M AN ENABLER !

414 Pietr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:50:51am

re: #407 Rancher

What-no youtube link to the 'Penn and Teller'? JK, good catch, amigo. Everything said there is TRUE, and the gullible will bite, and sign to ban DMHO every time. Ding!

415 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:52:06am

re: #412 Rancher

There is nothing insidious about it I just feel and I think Sharm feels the same way that there is more good to be had in applying the money in other places.
///Like combatting the widespread use of DHMO.

AND ,, on a serious note, you could say that about ANY money spent. There will always be a "more worthy" use for monies than the one it's being used for!

416 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:52:37am

re: #413 sattv4u2
My best DHMO prank was at NMSU I screwed around handed an infomation check list out on Thursday since I didn't have Friday classes. By the next week there were about 5 or 6 kooks trying to preach against it to other students. One of whom was a Biology minor with a journalism major planning on working for Nat Geo or something.

417 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:53:21am

Douglas Adams with Richard Dawkins - from the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures 1991

418 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:54:39am

re: #414 Pietr
The joke is older than Penn and Teller I do believe. Maybe not older than their actual ages but older than their act. I've actually never seen hte Penn and Teller version.

419 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:54:56am

re: #416 Rancher

My best DHMO prank was at NMSU I screwed around handed an infomation check list out on Thursday since I didn't have Friday classes. By the next week there were about 5 or 6 kooks trying to preach against it to other students. One of whom was a Biology minor with a journalism major planning on working for Nat Geo or something.

They're probably sitting at home waiting to hear if the gov't will give them that grant they applied for to fight the scourge of DHMO

420 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:55:46am

re: #419 sattv4u2
Been like 4 or 5 years and I doubt any of them know how to apply for a govt grant.

421 Pietr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:55:56am

Maybe the greenies should tell the Pakistani's anout how they're aiding global warming, adding to the carbon footprint: [Link: edition.cnn.com...]

422 eon  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:56:38am

re: #395 Happy Fun Ball

How's this name for the birth certificate kooks:

nerfherders

As in, "low-down, stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerfherder".


Good morning, Lizards.

(Good morning, Sharmuta.)

Why insult nerfherders?

There's a much better and more accurate name for these clowns already- Troofers. After all, there's an astounding amount of overlap between the "Dubya did 9/11" and the "Obama isn't an American" crowd- with the Paulbots being just one example of same.

It's about time we all faced up to a simple fact. There is nothing anyone can do to please this bunch. No matter who gets elected, or what they do or do not do, they will find fault with it. Because, if they are honest, it isn't what this country does they object to- it's the fact that they aren't running it.

I'd almost be tempted to let them try, but I'm not sure the world would survive the experience. To visualize their decision-making processes in crisis situations, read Lord of the Flies by William Golding.

/Find a scapegoat- stone the scapegoat. Wash, rinse, and repeat as necessary.

It's probably cathartic as all get-out for them, but not really very useful in the practical sense.

Troofers live to be outraged... at how stupid they think the rest of us are. In this respect, they remind me of nothing so much as UFO "True Believers", who think that the government knows all about abductions, etc., but won't tell us for its own nefarious reasons. There's an overlap, there, too, most obviously a guy named Jim Marrs, who manages to be a JFK assassination conspiracist/ UFO abduction "advocate"/ 9/11 Truther all at the same time. (For any Lizards who are gamers, Marrs' "worldview" makes GURPS Illuminati look simplistic by comparison.)

And if you tell them they're mistaken, or wrong, surprise! You're now considered part of the conspiracy.

Being a Troofer- of any kind- means never having to admit that you don't know what you're talking about.

/My guess is, we're going to be stuck with a lot more of this for the next four years. As for me, I'm stocking up on popcorn.

cheers

eon

423 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:56:55am

re: #420 Rancher

Been like 4 or 5 years and I doubt any of them know how to apply for a govt grant.

I'm sure their professors would walk them through the red tape, being as familiar with it as some of them (the prof's) are

424 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:58:01am
425 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:58:10am

BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE - THE INVISIBLE KILLER!
Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year.
What are the dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide?
Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.
Dihydrogen Monoxide Facts
Dihydrogen monoxide:

is also known as hydric acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the Greenhouse Effect.
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Dihydrogen Monoxide Alerts
Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions!
Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. In the midwest alone DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage.

Dihydrogen Monoxide Uses
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain junk-foods and other food products.
Stop the horror - Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide
Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!
THE HORROR MUST BE STOPPED!

The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its importance to the economic health of this nation. In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE!

Act NOW to prevent further contamination. Find out more about this dangerous chemical. What you don't know CAN hurt you and others throughout the world.

I think this is the Handout I used at the time.

426 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:02:00am

I'd love to find out about a phone a question session with Obama to ask him what he intends to do about DHMO.

427 Pietr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:05:36am

Since he did drugs-he might actually be interested in acquiring some...LOL.

428 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:08:22am

Pres. Bush kissed Babs?!

429 eon  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:08:53am

re: #426 Rancher

I'd love to find out about a phone a question session with Obama to ask him what he intends to do about DHMO.

My guess is, all calls to The Exalted One will be carefully screened- to eliminate any calls that might result in another "Joe the Plumber" moment coming to the public's attention.

Besides, he's already promised to make us perfect by a massive program of building Wind and Sun power everything to replace all that evil coal and oil, and eliminate the need for that even more evil nuclear power.

And while he's at it, he'll repeal Ohm's Law and all three of the Laws of Thermodynamics to make sure it actually works.

/He's The One- he can do that.

/Can't he?

/sarc

cheers

eon

430 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:09:08am

I hope Laura scrubbed his lips with Comet before she let him kiss her again.

431 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:10:23am

re: #426 Rancher

I'd love to find out about a phone a question session with Obama to ask him what he intends to do about DHMO.

I wonder if his foreign policy newbies will get the traditional phone call from the WAPO asking about their opinion on the situation in Fredonia...

432 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:10:38am

re: #384 Sharmuta

The greens have another problem on their hands- melting ice might be good!

Melting ice may slow global warming

Science is cool.

It has been my theory that Antarctic ice sheets breakaway because of natural forces when these ice sheets get very large. They don't break because they are melting, they break because they are so large, and heavy. However once they are broken away they will drift with ocean currents, and if they drift to warmer water they will melt.

It takes a lot of heat to melt ice, so that its self could reduce global warming or at minimum cause local cooling. Like ice in a glass of water.

433 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:10:53am

re: #428 MandyManners

Pres. Bush kissed Babs?!


He did, & Babs said that, "Art transcends politics."

434 eon  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:12:01am

re: #428 MandyManners

Pres. Bush kissed Babs?!

She was being magnanimous in victory.

/For the few seconds it took, that is.

cheers

eon

435 Pietr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:12:30am

re: #429 eon

I'm in favor of repealing Ohms Law-just as long as my computer isn't affected. Can't read it anyway, it's full of algebra formulas....:>)

436 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:15:01am

re: #433 opnion

He did, & Babs said that, "Art transcends politics."

Ars longa, vita brevis.

437 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:15:44am

re: #434 eon

She was being magnanimous in victory.

/For the few seconds it took, that is.

cheers

eon

I wonder if he planned it.

438 eon  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:15:53am

re: #435 Pietr

I'm in favor of repealing Ohms Law-just as long as my computer isn't affected. Can't read it anyway, it's full of algebra formulas....:>)

When in doubt, resort to a slide rule.

My Pickett N902-T Simplex Trig lives right next to my computer and my solar-powered TI-30 scientific calculator. And my pencil and paper, and my log tables.

/Belt plus suspenders

cheers

eon

439 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:16:05am

Gotta' drag The Kid into the day. bbl

440 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:18:56am

Pakistan claims the Mumbai Mastermind was captured in there little raid yesterday.

441 albusteve  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:20:06am

I dont think I'm a clown or a kook or disingenuous because I want an explanation of the circumstances of BOs birth...it seems like a simple thing...I thinks its unfair to score me as some pariah...with regards to Charles of course...

442 eon  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:20:22am

re: #437 MandyManners

I wonder if he planned it.

It had to be pre-approved. Not by the Secret Service, by Babsie, who is generally speaking one of the more extreme divas in show biz.

As for "art transcending politics", that has little or nothing to do with it. With Babs, ideology transcends everything, and everything is the handmaiden of ideology.

/I'm amazed that she isn't at least guest-hosting on The View.

cheers

eon

443 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:20:23am

I remember the TI99 SC, I bought it in 1974 for a nuclear school in Alexandria, VA, cost me 125 bucks. I bought my grandchild a new scientific calculator last week for 24 bucks. How things change. I think gas was around 70 cents at that time too. re: #438 eon

444 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:20:42am

re: #440 Rancher

Pakistan claims the Mumbai Mastermind was captured in there little raid yesterday.


If that is true, I wonder if they'll turn him over to Inda for trial?
Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

445 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:20:45am

re: #53 zombie

That's what I was thinking of...

ahem - Michigan J Frog

446 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:24:14am

re: #441 albusteve
Your belief he needs to show it and the others belief that the State of Hawaii lied and all hte other chap is what makes them kooks. The fact that people believe in another Govt conspiracy to hide CBBHO's origins is where the kookiness arises.

447 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:24:46am

Your belief in his need to show proof isn't whats kooky rather.

448 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:26:53am

Now if you believe in a vast govt conspiracy hiding Obama's origins, well then KOO KOO Kachoo cause you are the walrus.

449 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:27:09am

re: #441 albusteve

I dont think I'm a clown or a kook or disingenuous because I want an explanation of the circumstances of BOs birth...it seems like a simple thing...I thinks its unfair to score me as some pariah...with regards to Charles of course...

"an explanation of the circumstances "

His mother was American. His father was not. He (Barack) was born in Hawaii. Some timne after that, his father wanted to go out of the country. His mother wanted to be with her husband

Explanation given!

450 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:28:04am

Good morning Lizards....

451 eon  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:29:25am

re: #443 apachegunner

I remember the TI99 SC, I bought it in 1974 for a nuclear school in Alexandria, VA, cost me 125 bucks. I bought my grandchild a new scientific calculator last week for 24 bucks. How things change. I think gas was around 70 cents at that time too.

My first no-brainer, mule-stupid basic calc in HS cost me $40, took four AAs, and had a cute red LED display. My TI-30, bought a decade later (mid-Eighties) cost $55, has a nearly-indestructible LCD display, can do calculations my old one could only dream of, and doesn't even have a place for a battery, being completely solar-powered. (It was intended for jobsite use by contractors, surveyors, etc.)

Cute Red LED was about the size of a 20-round M-16 magazine. TI-30 is about half the size of a CD-ROM "jewel box", and fits in my pocket behind my wallet.

Cute Red LED died in two years. I'm not sure, but I think TI-30 might outlive me.

/I'm pretty sure N902-T will outlast both of us, though.

cheers

eon

452 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:29:32am

re: #449 sattv4u2 his father wanted to go out of the country. His mother wanted to be with her husband his mother married and Indonesian citizen Mr. Soetoro(can't recalll his first name) and decided to move to Indonesia because of her dislike of America.

Fixed fo ya

453 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:30:53am

re: #452 Rancher

his father wanted to go out of the country. His mother wanted to be with her husband his mother married and Indonesian citizen Mr. Soetoro(can't recalll his first name) and decided to move to Indonesia because of her dislike of America.

Fixed fo ya

HER dislike for America? Source please!

454 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:32:18am

re: #452 Rancher

his father wanted to go out of the country. His mother wanted to be with her husband his mother married and Indonesian citizen Mr. Soetoro(can't recalll his first name) and decided to move to Indonesia because of her dislike of America.

Fixed fo ya

The guys name is LoLo & that is how Barack got his stepsister.

455 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:35:50am
456 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:36:32am

re: #454 opnion

Yeah found the name just didn't feel terrible like looking it up as it wasn't terribly important.

457 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:37:25am

re: #456 Rancher

Yeah found the name just didn't feel terrible like looking it up as it wasn't terribly important.


No, it's not, somehow it just came to me though.

458 eon  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:38:08am

Well, I have to go. Places to go, people to hand money to.

Have a great day, Lizards,

cheers

eon

459 Big Steve  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:38:08am

re: #428 MandyManners

Pres. Bush kissed Babs?!

speaking of kissing, today is the day in the Hadj where Muslim pilgrams circle and kiss the Kaaba stone. This black stone (thought to be a meterorite) is housed in this vagina looking thing housed in the Masjid in Mecca(Kaaba Stone......so I don't know about you but lips touching this after millions of others have kissed it in the minutes before you?

460 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:39:51am

re: #459 Big Steve

speaking of kissing, today is the day in the Hadj where Muslim pilgrams circle and kiss the Kaaba stone. This black stone (thought to be a meterorite) is housed in this vagina looking thing housed in the Masjid in Mecca(Kaaba Stone......so I don't know about you but lips touching this after millions of others have kissed it in the minutes before you?


It never fails, when they have the Stone the Devil ceremony, people get killed. They need better crowd control.

461 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:40:05am

"Naivete" is a euphemism for Ann Dunham's motivation. Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report. Many Americans harbor leftist views, but not many marry into them, twice. Ann Dunham met and married the Kenyan economics student Barack Obama, Sr, at the University of Hawaii in 1960, and in 1967 married the Indonesian student Lolo Soetero. It is unclear why Soetero's student visa was revoked in 1967 - the fact but not the cause are noted in press accounts. But it is probable that the change in government in Indonesia in 1967, in which the leftist leader Sukarno was deposed, was the motivation.

[Link: www.atimes.com...]

463 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:41:02am

re: #460 opnion

It never fails, when they have the Stone the Devil ceremony, people get killed. They need better crowd control.


great place for a terrorist attack don'tcha thinK?

464 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:41:39am

re: #455 Rancher

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

"As much as a high-school student can, she'd question anything: What's so good about democracy? What's so good about capitalism? What's wrong with communism? What's good about communism?" Wichterman said. "She had what I call an inquiring mind."


She also showed her politics, wearing a campaign button for Adlai Stevenson. And despite flirting with atheism, she went to services at East Shore Unitarian church, a left-leaning congregation in Bellevue.


Is that the most damning "proof' that she "disliked America' (that she wore a Stevenson button and questioned things)

465 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:42:25am
466 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:43:24am

re: #465 opnion

Crap paper!

Here ya go
[Link: blogs.menupages.com...]

467 Big Steve  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:43:54am

re: #460 opnion

It never fails, when they have the Stone the Devil ceremony, people get killed. They need better crowd control.


This year they have built a number of bridges around the pillars so that more people can be held safely. Also one can now buy a package of pebbles so you don't have to root around to find the 25 you are supposed to through. This, hopefully, will make it more orderly. While many of us think that this activity is rather primative, I for one, really would like to people not get hurt.

468 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:43:58am

re: #466 sattv4u2

Here ya go
[Link: blogs.menupages.com...]

There ya go.

469 yochanan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:44:35am

re: #465 opnion

the trib used to be cons. anti semitic paper now it is a liberal anti semitic paper.

470 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:45:28am

re: #467 Big Steve

This year they have built a number of bridges around the pillars so that more people can be held safely. Also one can now buy a package of pebbles so you don't have to root around to find the 25 you are supposed to through. This, hopefully, will make it more orderly. While many of us think that this activity is rather primative, I for one, really would like to people not get hurt.

Yeah, I don't want them hurt either. They would be much better off with a hotdog & beer at a ballgame.

471 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:46:00am

re: #469 yochanan

the trib used to be cons. anti semitic paper now it is a liberal anti semitic paper.

Well, it wont be long before it ISNT a paper! Dont let the door.....

472 Big Steve  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:46:27am

re: #470 opnion

Yeah, I don't want them hurt either. They would be much better off with a hotdog & beer at a ballgame.


yes...the true American religion!

473 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:46:41am

re: #469 yochanan

the trib used to be cons. anti semitic paper now it is a liberal anti semitic paper.

That is ironic & true. I thought that Sam Zells would change that.

474 Pietr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:48:06am

re: #468 opnion

Unless you'd rather use this? [Link: www.jeremyinc.com...]

475 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:48:22am

When you mess with Israel there is a price to pay. Lettem pay through the nose!

476 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:53:36am

Worth a read:

[Link: www.marketwatch.com...]

[Link: seekingalpha.com...]

477 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:55:43am

All right lizards.... Off to work time.... Say hello to realwest and hoops for me when they come in...

478 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:57:02am

re: #477 doriangrey

All right lizards.... Off to work time.... Say hello to realwest and hoops for me when they come in...

Teacher's pets...

Hey Dorian...see ya next time.

479 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:58:11am

democrat double standard.


I for one welcome our new childish groper male overlords - and their hypocrite feminist democrat apologists.

480 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:59:43am

re: #478 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Teacher's pets...

Hey Dorian...see ya next time.

Pttttttttttttt... Good morning to you too....

481 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:02:15am

Liberals voice concerns about Obama

[Link: www.politico.com...]

482 Crusty  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:02:37am

re: #462 Wishing

Tribune filing for bankruptcy...but we already knew they were bankrupt!

Morally bankrupt! That means The Chicago Tribune and The Los Angeles Times, two of the biggest co-conspirators in making sure voters went to the polls uninformed and 0bama brainwashed in November, have somehow managed to alienate a large number of readers. Like me. Go figure.

483 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:05:15am

re: #481 Dustyvet

Liberals voice concerns about Obama

[Link: www.politico.com...]

I don't know why the Libs would be mad at him. He did promise CHANGE!

They just didn't bargain for him to CHANGE his own positions and promises!

(be careful what you ask for ,, you just may get it ! )

484 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:05:38am

re: #453 sattv4u2

No that's not the most damning stuff but currently I am at work and can't devote long periods of time to searching out info on his mother that doesn't also include Nirth certificate nonsence. But she was a Marxist she married 2 MArxists and we can see the MArxist leanings in he son.

485 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:07:32am

Good Morning Lizards!

I had a very busy, but mostly enjoyable, weekend. I hope that everyone is well today.

Last night on local taxpayer television they ran some old Victor Borge clips. If you have never watched him I strongly suggest you look him up and do so. He was one of the funniest men who ever lived. Here is his idea for Phonetic Pronunciation. Enjoy.

486 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:08:23am

re: #483 sattv4u2

I don't know why the Libs would be mad at him. He did promise CHANGE!

They just didn't bargain for him to CHANGE his own positions and promises!

(be careful what you ask for ,, you just may get it ! )

But... but... but... every single one of them built an imaginary universe where every CHANGE would be the CHANGE they, personally, wanted.

Whaaaaaaaaa!

487 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:08:53am

re: #484 Rancher

No that's not the most damning stuff but currently I am at work and can't devote long periods of time to searching out info on his mother that doesn't also include Nirth certificate nonsence. But she was a Marxist she married 2 MArxists and we can see the MArxist leanings in he son.

Conceding that being true, stirring up that she "dislikes America" will only lend fuel to the Nirth Cert fire/ conspirators

488 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:09:01am

Ok all headed home from work if I still remember once I arrive I'll try to search out for you Satt some of the articles referencing the protests etc she attended.

489 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:09:58am

re: #487 sattv4u2
Her anti-americanism is just another thing latched onto by nirthers to try to add credance to there theories.

490 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:10:23am

re: #486 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

But... but... but... every single one of them built an imaginary universe where every CHANGE would be the CHANGE they, personally, wanted.

Whaaaaaaaaa!

When I see a car with an Obama sticker on it in a parking lot driven by a white person. I walk up to them and congratulate them. I tell them that FINALLY they can shed their White Guilt

491 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:12:35am

re: #490 sattv4u2

When I see a car with an Obama sticker on it in a parking lot driven by a white person. I walk up to them and congratulate them. I tell them that FINALLY they can shed their White Guilt

There will never come a time where they have done enough to do that.

492 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:12:44am

re: #485 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards!

I had a very busy, but mostly enjoyable, weekend. I hope that everyone is well today.

Last night on local taxpayer television they ran some old Victor Borge clips. If you have never watched him I strongly suggest you look him up and do so. He was one of the funniest men who ever lived. Here is his idea for Phonetic Pronunciation. Enjoy.

My wife couldn't beleive such a talented classic pianist would do it with a comic bent

493 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:13:26am

Good morning Lizards!
How is everyone fine fine chilly day?

494 Rancher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:13:58am

re: #487 sattv4u2
the main point i was trying to make there was that it wasn't Obama's father she left with but Lolo Soetoro(Sutoro depending on time frame how she spelled the name).

495 96RoadKing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:14:35am

re: #490 sattv4u2

When I see a car with an Obama sticker on it in a parking lot driven by a white person. I walk up to them and congratulate them. I tell them that FINALLY they can shed their White Guilt

I'm looking forward to when they start complaining that (whatever issue currently bothers them) is all Obama's fault.

496 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:14:46am

re: #494 Rancher

the main point i was trying to make there was that it wasn't Obama's father she left with but Lolo Soetoro(Sutoro depending on time frame how she spelled the name).

I know. And my main point was that she (with Barack in tow) left America not because she hated it, but to be with the man she "loved"

497 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:15:05am

Morning Hoops!

How about that temp? You get stuck in the ice on Saturday? A friend of mine coming from Indy had to turn around and go home.

498 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:16:03am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

— Douglas Adams"

Too true!
Or, as hs also been said (can' remember who, where or when!):
'Against stupidity even the Gods fight in vain' ...

499 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:16:34am

re: #497 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning Hoops!

How about that temp? You get stuck in the ice on Saturday? A friend of mine coming from Indy had to turn around and go home.

Here in Twin Cities MN - 7 inches of the white stuff expected today/tonight

500 96RoadKing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:16:49am

re: #493 HoosierHoops

Good morning Lizards!
How is everyone fine fine chilly day?


Back atcha! Looking forward to 4" - 8" of the white stuff today. My Southern Gal (from SC) is promising me cornbread and ham hoc soup (her solice to snowstorms).

501 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:16:53am

re: #497 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning Hoops!

How about that temp? You get stuck in the ice on Saturday? A friend of mine coming from Indy had to turn around and go home.


HiYa Vet..Me and the boys tailgated in 9degree temps Sunday at the Colts Game..
Tailgating in freezing temps is way over rated..Had to keep the beer in a freezer to keep it from freezing...

502 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:18:10am

re: #492 sattv4u2

My wife couldn't beleive such a talented classic pianist would do it with a comic bent

That was part of what made him so funny. He was so talented but he never took it too seriously. So many people treat classical music with such reverence, and he was not afraid to poke fun at that. He is one of the few people that I can see the same sketch over and over and still laugh.

503 96RoadKing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:18:43am

re: #499 Dasher

Here in Twin Cities MN - 7 inches of the white stuff expected today/tonight


Dasher...Where you at? I'm in one of the southern 'burbs!

504 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:18:49am

re: #493 HoosierHoops

Good morning Lizards!
How is everyone fine fine chilly day?

Freezing! Morning HH. Wind chill up here in CT is going to be sub zero at times today.

505 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:18:54am

re: #499 Dasher

Here in Twin Cities MN - 7 inches of the white stuff expected today/tonight

Good, use all that moisture up before it gets to me.

506 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:19:14am

re: #491 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

There will never come a time where they have done enough to do that.

I've had conversations with people who I thought were smart people, who are just thrilled that we 'finally' elected a black president.

It's amazing to me how many people thought that his race, and nothing more, was a valid reason for casting a vote for Obama, so that we could "finally" elect a black man to the presidency.

507 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:19:36am
508 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:20:07am

re: #501 HoosierHoops

HiYa Vet..Me and the boys tailgated in 9degree temps Sunday at the Colts Game..
Tailgating in freezing temps is way over rated..Had to keep the beer in a freezer to keep it from freezing...

Funny, I didn't think the Colts were a basketball team. Did someone hit you over the head and you woke up there? ;-)

509 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:21:06am

re: #506 reine.de.tout

I've had conversations with people who I thought were smart people, who are just thrilled that we 'finally' elected a black president.

It's amazing to me how many people thought that his race, and nothing more, was a valid reason for casting a vote for Obama, so that we could "finally" elect a black man to the presidency.

Dumbest. Reason. Ever.

510 96RoadKing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:21:14am

re: #506 reine.de.tout

I've had conversations with people who I thought were smart people, who are just thrilled that we 'finally' elected a black president.

It's amazing to me how many people thought that his race, and nothing more, was a valid reason for casting a vote for Obama, so that we could "finally" elect a black man to the presidency.


I've got a brother that used that excuse. He's been expressing regret ever since The Big O started selecting Cabinet members that weren't Liberal enough for him.

511 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:21:50am
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

— Douglas Adams

Douglas Adams was another very funny man whose humor I can laugh repeatedly at. Hence my moniker.

512 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:22:19am
513 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:23:15am
514 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:23:44am

re: #509 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Dumbest. Reason. Ever.

Just as dumb as not voting for him because he is black.

515 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:24:13am

re: #514 Ford_Prefect

Just as dumb as not voting for him because he is black.

Same reason, different direction.

516 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:24:29am

re: #508 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Funny, I didn't think the Colts were a basketball team. Did someone hit you over the head and you woke up there? ;-)


LOL
You would have loved seeing me.. I got my face painted and I wore a Blue wig..Just call me big sexy!

517 3 wood  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:24:32am

The market is likely to jump right off the bat this morning. The futures are up around 2.5% and the Asian markets were cooking over night.

I'm looking for a bit of a market rebound for December as it appears that the market is getting it's head wrapped around the downturn and some things are becoming more certain, which starts cutting down on the perceived risk in the market. Those certainties include:

1. The big players in the financial market are not going to be allowed to go bankrupt.

2. Obama is going to do some massive stimulus package soon after he is sworn in.

3. The Big 3 are going to be bailed out in one way or another. They may be combined, they may have a negotiated bankruptcy of sorts, the details are sketchy at this point.

4. There is not going to be an immediate tax increase.

5. The Democrats are going to re-regulate a lot of these industries.

Now, I'm not saying that all these things are "good" things, but that they are becoming clearer and that is making the future easier to perceive.

Also, I think there is trillions of cash sitting out there on the sidelines earning almost no yield. There has been so much bad news for so long, that at the least sign of consistent good news you, will see a significant flow of cash back into the market.

I think we are at least half way, if not more than halfway through this market turn down. That does not mean that we will be back at 14,000 on the DOW anytime soon.

One big key to recovery, is that several changes have to be made to the regulations:

1. The Community Reinvestment Act needs to be repealed. Otherwise, we will do this again.

2. The "uptick" rule needs to be reinstated for short sales.

3. the "naked short sale" prohibition needs to actually be enforced.

4. There needs to be a trading desk opened for mortgage backed securities so the values can be determined in an open and transparent way.

5. I think there needs to be a better public disclosure of the risk involved in derivatives. It's just too easy right now to play shell games with these things and hide risk from the investors who will eventually get burned.

518 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:25:13am
519 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:25:55am

Zbigniew Brzezinski: Israel's push for Iran strike may hurt U.S. ties

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Oh and this part is priceless: "It wouldn't be particularly good for American-Israeli relations, and there will be a lot of resentment against [Israel]," he said. "There already has been some after the war in Iraq."

So now the war in Iraq is also Israel's fault? Well American Jews you ask for it? Back to the Future we go!

520 Lively  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:26:14am

How 'bout them Gators.

521 96RoadKing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:26:42am

re: #514 Ford_Prefect

Just as dumb as not voting for him because he is black.


Had an argument with a Democrat before the election that the reason Republicans wouldn't vote for him was that Republicans were racist. I couldn't get her to concede that it might have been his politics, instead.

522 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:26:47am

re: #516 HoosierHoops

LOL
You would have loved seeing me.. I got my face painted and I wore a Blue wig..Just call me big sexy!

Crap... HH was doing his Smurf impression in public again...

523 3 wood  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:27:20am

How 'bout them Cowboys?

524 kafir lover  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:28:10am

re: #514 Ford_Prefect

Far more voted for his race, than against it. Yet you never seem to hear much about the former group.

525 jcbunga  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:28:14am

"Iran Rejects Obama's Carrot and Stick Policy"

"Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hasan Qashqavi, said Monday that Obama's proposed policy was unacceptable and had failed in the past."

Man, are they in trouble. The Foreign Ministry guy is right, however--the carrot and stick approach is unacceptable and has failed in the past. The One should get this guy on the team.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

526 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:28:14am

re: #521 96RoadKing

Had an argument with a Democrat before the election that the reason Republicans wouldn't vote for him was that Republicans were racist. I couldn't get her to concede that it might have been his politics, instead.

Should have told the Dem that he/she didn't vote for McCain/ Palin because Sarah is a female, making the Dem a sexist!

527 saberry0530  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:28:18am

re: #522 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Crap... HH was doing his Smurf impression in public again...

Is HH off his meds again?

528 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:28:30am

re: #523 3 wood

How 'bout them Cowboys?

Big trouble I think...

529 Irish Rose  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:28:33am

Good morning, lizards.
Just a quick note to let you know that I have a kidney infection that is causing some confusion and disorientation. I'm not going to be posting regularly here at LGF, until I can post without sounding like an idiot.

Peace.

530 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:28:36am

re: #521 96RoadKing

Had an argument with a Democrat before the election that the reason Republicans wouldn't vote for him was that Republicans were racist. I couldn't get her to concede that it might have been his politics, instead.

Umm... 98% of Black vote.

The majority of whites did vote for him.

/Call racism where it actually is...

531 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:29:12am

re: #523 3 wood

How 'bout them Cowboys?

The boys are back in town, The boys are back in town. Or maybe not!

532 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:29:26am

re: #529 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards.
Just a quick note to let you know that I have a kidney infection that is causing some confusion and disorientation. I'm not going to be posting regularly here at LGF, until I can post without sounding like an idiot.

Peace.

on that case, I should NEVER post, infection or not !

533 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:29:27am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Once again, we've got the Pakistani two-step on full display. Not only do we know that the ISI is penetrated by the Islamists, but it now appears that one of the former heads of the ISI was involved with al Qaeda as a member of the terrorist group's WMD advisory group.

The Pakistanis have claimed that they attacked one of the LeT terror camps, but that's all that they can do - appear to be cracking down because if they actually did crack down and take out the terrorists and the Islamists in general, the terrorists would likely overthrow the government because of its precarious position vis-a-vis the ISI and its reliance on the Islamists to get elected in the first place.

534 96RoadKing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:29:33am

re: #526 sattv4u2

Should have told the Dem that he/she didn't vote for McCain/ Palin because Sarah is a female, making the Dem a sexist!


ROTFL! That would have rocked her back in her tracks!

535 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:29:43am

Good Morning Y'all - from a FREEZING COLD (26 degrees going up to 47 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

536 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:29:43am

re: #527 saberry0530

Is HH off his meds again?

Maybe they don't work in the cold?

537 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:30:01am
538 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:30:04am

re: #527 saberry0530

Is HH off his meds again?

I looked like a big ugly version of Sharm at the game..
/Which we won 35-3..Did i forget to mention that?

539 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:30:33am

re: #535 realwest

Good Morning Y'all - from a FREEZING COLD (26 degrees going up to 47 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

well then ,,, go INSIDE !

540 saberry0530  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:30:35am

re: #536 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Maybe they don't work in the cold?

Need to double up on them then!

541 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:30:37am

re: #529 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards.
Just a quick note to let you know that I have a kidney infection that is causing some confusion and disorientation. I'm not going to be posting regularly here at LGF, until I can post without sounding like an idiot.

Peace.

You poor thing!
Hugs and get-well-wishes, you're in my prayers!
Hopefully you get better for Christmas!

542 96RoadKing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:30:52am

re: #530 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Umm... 98% of Black vote.

The majority of whites did vote for him.

/Call racism where it actually is...


Their response is always the same: "That's different!" Drives me nuts.

543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:30:54am

re: #535 realwest

Good Morning Y'all - from a FREEZING COLD (26 degrees going up to 47 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Morning Real!

Wheeee! I have 29 degrees, I'm warmer than the sunny south (for once).

Made my day!

544 saberry0530  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:31:33am

re: #538 HoosierHoops

I looked like a big ugly version of Sharm at the game..
/Which we won 35-3..Did i forget to mention that?

is that you or the lack of meds talkin'!
///////

545 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:31:41am

re: #535 realwest

Good Morning Y'all - from a FREEZING COLD (26 degrees going up to 47 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Oh RealWest...I think plaxico the destraction hurt your team yesterday..And you still won the division.
Good Morning!

546 96RoadKing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:31:51am

re: #529 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards.
Just a quick note to let you know that I have a kidney infection that is causing some confusion and disorientation. I'm not going to be posting regularly here at LGF, until I can post without sounding like an idiot.

Peace.


Maybe that's been my problem...

547 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:31:59am

re: #519 Nevergiveup

Zbigniew Brzezinski: Israel's push for Iran strike may hurt U.S. ties

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Oh and this part is priceless: "It wouldn't be particularly good for American-Israeli relations, and there will be a lot of resentment against [Israel]," he said. "There already has been some after the war in Iraq."

So now the war in Iraq is also Israel's fault? Well American Jews you ask for it? Back to the Future we go!

My biggest fear is that Israel, in order to keep itself from being obliterated off the map, will unilaterally strike, and then we, the U.S., will not back them and then sell them out...

548 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:32:02am

re: #542 96RoadKing

Their response is always the same: "That's different!" Drives me nuts.

Stupid is as stupid does... no point in arguing it with them.

549 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:32:07am

re: #512 buzzsawmonkey

As I said during the election, if melanin alone were able to be a guarantee of good government, Africa would be a political light unto the world.

Damn.
Wish I had had that to quote to the last person I talked to about this.
Saved now to my faves.

550 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:33:48am

re: #543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Glad to be so obliging as to make your day LT.
BUT I'M FREEZING MY ASS OFF HERE! lol!

551 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:35:02am

re: #547 Oh no...Sand People!

My biggest fear is that Israel, in order to keep itself from being obliterated off the map, will unilaterally strike, and then we, the U.S., will not back them and then sell them out...

I think, with the zero in office, that is a real concern.
Then we can all just bend over and kiss it goodbye.
We may fail them, but the Almighty sure wont.

552 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:35:13am

re: #545 HoosierHoops Good morning Hoops - didn't see the game, just can't believe we lost to the Eagles! GAH!
Wonder how our Manning played and what went wrong;we shoulda beat Philly like a drum.

553 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:35:21am

re: #550 realwest

Glad to be so obliging as to make your day LT.
BUT I'M FREEZING MY ASS OFF HERE! lol!

TAKE THE PUTER BACK INSIDE !

554 96RoadKing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:35:25am

re: #548 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Stupid is as stupid does... no point in arguing it with them.

It gets difficult. I work in the Health Care industry (very heavy Liberal bent). Every now and then, the crap gets too deep, and I have to say something, otherwise my frustration level reaches overload.

555 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:35:42am

re: #547 Oh no...Sand People!

My biggest fear is that Israel, in order to keep itself from being obliterated off the map, will unilaterally strike, and then we, the U.S., will not back them and then sell them out...

How many days until Jan 20TH 2009?

556 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:36:22am

re: #547 Oh no...Sand People! FUCK Zbigniew Brzezinski and the horse he rode in, in!

557 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:37:10am

re: #556 realwest

FUCK Zbigniew Brzezinski and the horse he rode in, in!

Yeah, except his horse seems to parked at or near 1600 Pennsylvania Ave?

558 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:37:12am

re: #535 realwest

Good Morning Y'all - from a FREEZING COLD (26 degrees going up to 47 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Hi there, {rw}!

Bright and sunny is always good - much much better than the same temperature while its grey and damp, as it is here.
We had a thin covering of ice on the pavements here early this morning, but no proper hoar frost, alas ...

559 Macker  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:37:31am

re: #482 Crusty

And they're having trouble selling the Chicago Cubs as a result....

GOOD MORNING LIZARDS!

560 96RoadKing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:37:34am

Well folks...Time to go to work. Stay warm!

561 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:38:05am

re: #553 sattv4u2
Ah, now my day is complete - what would I do without some "wit" from you, eh?*
*(the "eh?" is for the benefit of Kenneth and any other Canadian lizards out here today!).

562 Macker  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:38:21am

re: #490 sattv4u2

And what is their reply?

563 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:38:45am

re: #561 realwest

Ah, now my day is complete - what would I do without some "wit" from you, eh?*
*(the "eh?" is for the benefit of Kenneth and any other Canadian lizards out here today!).

they're all warmer than you !

564 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:39:05am

re: #557 Nevergiveup
Fuck him anyway. Traitorous bastid.
How are ya today?

565 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:40:13am

re: #558 yma o hyd
Hey good morning to you yma! Uh, what's hoar frost (I'm almost afraid to ask that question!)?

566 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:40:16am

re: #562 Macker

And what is their reply?

When I 1st walk up to them and "congratulate" them, they have a grin ear to ear and a gleam in their eyes.

When I hit them with the White Guilt Line, the grin stays, but the eyes glaze over, and they just sorta freeze! !

567 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:40:24am

BBIAM!

568 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:41:02am

Mornin' all. I see some of the 9-11 conspirators are getting their first day in court. How long till obambi issues a pardon and apologizes for our over zealous troops?

569 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:41:23am

re: #529 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards.
Just a quick note to let you know that I have a kidney infection that is causing some confusion and disorientation. I'm not going to be posting regularly here at LGF, until I can post without sounding like an idiot.

Peace.

That doesn't stop the rest of us from posting.

Hope you get better very soon, Rose.

570 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:42:13am

re: #529 Irish Rose
Get better soon!

571 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:44:35am

re: #568 pingjockey

Mornin' all. I see some of the 9-11 conspirators are getting their first day in court. How long till obambi issues a pardon and apologizes for our over zealous troops?

Oh about 7 or 8 minutes after he takes the oath of office.

572 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:44:50am

re: #529 Irish Rose

Good morning, lizards.
Just a quick note to let you know that I have a kidney infection that is causing some confusion and disorientation. I'm not going to be posting regularly here at LGF, until I can post without sounding like an idiot.

Peace.

What better time to post? This way anything that you say can be excused as a result of medicinal influence. You have a free pass!

Seriously, I hope you feel better soon.

573 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:45:16am

re: #503 96RoadKing

Dasher...Where you at? I'm in one of the southern 'burbs!

Woodbury

574 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:45:56am

re: #507 buzzsawmonkey

Facts, shmacts.

575 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:46:06am
576 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:46:23am

re: #565 realwest

Hey good morning to you yma! Uh, what's hoar frost (I'm almost afraid to ask that question!)?

its the lovely, beautiful icy crystals covering the grass and the shrubs first thing in the morning when the air overnight was below freezing, but the ground still held a bit of warmth.
It looks magical, and all dogs adore it - they roll in it as much and as many times as they possibly can!

577 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:46:24am

re: #571 Dustyvet
That's what I'm afraid of.

578 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:46:42am

re: #506 reine.de.tout

we 'finally' elected a black president

One of the most racist sentiments ever. But the irony is lost on the Obamaphiles.

579 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:46:55am

re: #563 sattv4u2

Heck no, not yet at least. It was -10 when I left work.

/and snowing, did I mention that?

580 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:46:57am

re: #503 96RoadKing

Dasher...Where you at? I'm in one of the southern 'burbs!re: #573 Dasher

Woodbury

I would have said "About 6 inches from Prancers ass"

581 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:47:20am

re: #575 buzzsawmonkey

But hey... the voters of New Orleans finally dispatched William Jefferson.

582 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:47:44am

re: #580 sattv4u2

I would have said "About 6 inches from Prancers ass"

LOL

583 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:47:46am

re: #575 buzzsawmonkey

One could, of course, cite some of the shining exemplars of American good government--Alcee Hastings, Ray Nagin, Kwame Kilpatrick, Sharpe James, Maxine Waters, Charles Rangel--but that would invite disclaimers based on "American racism," which is why I prefer the Africa comparison.

How can you forget Marion "Bitch Set Me Up!" Barry?

584 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:48:25am

Sorry about that - but when they installed my new computer yesterday they gave me this hotsy totsy new keyboard which has a dozen or so buttons on the side of the keyboard (one of which is a crescent) and I have NO IDEA what they are for, but it changes the width of my keyboard so I'm always hitting the wrong damn keys!
Now where were we?! LOL!

585 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:48:41am

BBIAW ...

586 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:48:42am

Good Monday morning all.

/go steelers!

587 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:48:48am

re: #344 opnion

You just need a trip to the Shrine of Magnificent Leader to feel better, grow hair on your chest and be empowered! How wonderful!

[THUNK]

588 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:48:58am

re: #581 Dasher

But hey... the voters of New Orleans finally dispatched William Jefferson.

Yeah, but he blamed it on "low voter turnout"

MEANING ,,,,,, he couldn't get enough dumb people to the polls

589 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:49:13am

re: #550 realwest

Glad to be so obliging as to make your day LT.
BUT I'M FREEZING MY ASS OFF HERE! lol!

Turn-about is fair play... you guys always have nicer weather than us morons in Illinois.

So, I get to be excited about a few degrees difference in the 20's... as if that make it comfortable.

590 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:49:16am

re: #583 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Doesn't matter how many times I hear/see that quote-it cracks me up every time!

So funny.

591 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:49:26am

Gaaaah! Our wonderful "Holiday" display at the Wa. state Capitol is back on FNC.

592 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:49:50am

re: #575 buzzsawmonkey

One could, of course, cite some of the shining exemplars of American good government--Alcee Hastings, Ray Nagin, Kwame Kilpatrick, Sharpe James, Maxine Waters, Charles Rangel--but that would invite disclaimers based on "American racism," which is why I prefer the Africa comparison.

You forgot David Dinkins.

593 yochanan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:50:30am

got the VIP treatment from the T.S.A. last nite, they marked on my ticket that i should be searched as well as my bags, i guess a bearded, kipah wearing person is going to take over a air plane also i am almost 60 years old, they forgot to stamp my ticket that i passed said test so when i went to the gate for my air plane at the last min. they said i had to go back to the T.S.A. which i did went from gate 12 to the T.S.A. gate a couple of houndred yards got re-searched and the ticket stamped T.S.A. which they should have done the first time ran back the 200 yards all in 5 mins. almost missed the last flight out of NYC. All because the idiot forgot to stamp the ticket.

594 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:50:31am

re: #578 WriterMom

One of the most racist sentiments ever. But the irony is lost on the Obamaphiles.

I have had a few discussions with people over the years who claim that black people in the U.S can't be racist since they are in the minority. Apparently only those that are in the majority, and therefore control everything, can be racist. I still have the marks on my forehead from banging it against the wall.

595 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:50:31am

re: #584 realwest
You better watch that crescent! It may be the direct line to I'madinnerjacket.

596 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:50:57am

Interesting news just over the radio, nine Guantanamo prisoners are asking for a special secssion in order to confess their guilt.
You know that the Left will claim , that is because the Criminal Bush had the poor innocents waterboarded.

597 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:51:23am

Snow? Ice? What's that? We Zonies have no idea of what that is.

598 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:51:30am

Morning all...

Ok, just mailed out some membership packets for the theatre.

Now waiting for the SNOW. 10-16 inches just 30 miles south of Denver, up to half foot of snow for the Denver area, all starting sometime afternoon.

What are we doing to save the world today?

Walter in Golden, Co.

599 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:51:49am

re: #596 opnion

Interesting news just over the radio, nine Guantanamo prisoners are asking for a special secssion in order to confess their guilt.
You know that the Left will claim , that is because the Criminal Bush had the poor innocents waterboarded.

Or they flushed their Korans.

600 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:51:51am

re: #594 Ford_Prefect


Sigh!

601 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:52:05am

re: #584 realwest

Sorry about that - but when they installed my new computer yesterday they gave me this hotsy totsy new keyboard which has a dozen or so buttons on the side of the keyboard (one of which is a crescent) and I have NO IDEA what they are for, but it changes the width of my keyboard so I'm always hitting the wrong damn keys!
Now where were we?! LOL!

Just don't press the one that says eject.

602 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:52:06am

re: #576 yma o hyd
Whoa, I've heard the term before but never knew what it meant - it sure sounds pretty! How are you doing today?

603 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:52:07am

re: #596 opnion

Interesting news just over the radio, nine Guantanamo prisoners are asking for a special secssion in order to confess their guilt.
You know that the Left will claim , that is because the Criminal Bush had the poor innocents waterboarded.

Well, I hope so, if it worked.

604 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:52:26am

Well.. off to work... everyone play nice.

Later, Lizard Nation!

605 tfc3rid  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:52:55am

re: #568 pingjockey

Mornin' all. I see some of the 9-11 conspirators are getting their first day in court. How long till obambi issues a pardon and apologizes for our over zealous troops?

FNC reporting that he 9/11 co-conspirators want to plead GUILTY...

606 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:52:56am

re: #601 Ford_Prefect

Just don't press the one that says eject.

Or "Self-Destruct."

607 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:53:06am

re: #584 realwest

Sorry about that - but when they installed my new computer yesterday they gave me this hotsy totsy new keyboard which has a dozen or so buttons on the side of the keyboard (one of which is a crescent) and I have NO IDEA what they are for, but it changes the width of my keyboard so I'm always hitting the wrong damn keys!
Now where were we?! LOL!

Whatever you do, DO NOT push the red button!

608 NelsFree  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:53:25am

This just in from the Chicago Trib:

As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month.

Honestly, you can't make this stuff up...

609 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:53:29am

re: #584 realwest

Sorry about that - but when they installed my new computer yesterday they gave me this hotsy totsy new keyboard which has a dozen or so buttons on the side of the keyboard (one of which is a crescent) and I have NO IDEA what they are for, but it changes the width of my keyboard so I'm always hitting the wrong damn keys! Now where were we?! LOL!

Live on the edge. Press those damn buttons. Maybe soon we will be tracking Realwest on a sky map, trying to catch up tot he toolbox.

610 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:53:35am

re: #584 realwest

Sorry about that - but when they installed my new computer yesterday they gave me this hotsy totsy new keyboard which has a dozen or so buttons on the side of the keyboard (one of which is a crescent) and I have NO IDEA what they are for, but it changes the width of my keyboard so I'm always hitting the wrong damn keys!
Now where were we?! LOL!

Whatever you do, don't press the END WORLD NOW button. Honestly, I don't even know why they have that button in the first place.

611 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:53:44am

re: #584 realwest

Does the crescent key convert people to Islam?

612 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:53:44am

re: #589 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) LOL! Well ejoy it LT - even if only for a day or two. How are you doing today?

613 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:54:06am

re: #608 NelsFree

This just in from the Chicago Trib:

As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month.

Honestly, you can't make this stuff up...

That's because if there are fewer out there, it'll be easier for him and his minions to try and confiscate them.

614 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:54:08am
615 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:54:14am

re: #603 Walter L. Newton

Well, I hope so, if it worked.


Yeah, but I want their confessions to be completely credible.
The Left can't allow that, because then Bush will look good.

616 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:54:21am

re: #542 96RoadKing

Their response is always the same: "That's different!" Drives me nuts.

Yep. . .even though it is not. . .

617 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:54:22am

re: #607 Hard Right

Whatever you do, DO NOT push the red button!

This one? [Link: dessertyears.files.wordpress.com...]

618 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:54:31am

re: #592 MandyManners

You forgot David Dinkins.

The Little General?

619 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:54:33am

re: #598 Walter L. Newton
Supporting the arts! Wife and mom went to see a high school production of Fiddler on the roof and the boys and me went ans saw a high school production of The Nightmare Before Christmas. Both were having food drives for local charities. Boffo reviews for both!

620 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:54:43am

re: #595 pingjockey

You better watch that crescent! It may be the direct line to I'madinnerjacket.

Push it West, maybe dinner jacket will fall off his foot stool...:)

621 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:54:47am

re: #608 NelsFree

This just in from the Chicago Trib:

As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month.

Honestly, you can't make this stuff up...

I'm sure he then held up his strong pro-gun voting record as proof.
////////////////////////////////////

622 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:54:56am

re: #598 Walter L. Newton

Morning all...

Ok, just mailed out some membership packets for the theatre.

Now waiting for the SNOW. 10-16 inches just 30 miles south of Denver, up to half foot of snow for the Denver area, all starting sometime afternoon.

What are we doing to save the world today?

Walter in Golden, Co.


I saved the world last week.. It's somebody elses turn today.

623 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:55:00am

I got off the phone with my cousin a few moments ago. She was bubbling with excitement to tell me that she heard that gas is $1.17 in West Memphis and $.99 in Jonesboro, AR. Any Lizards from Arkansas?

624 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:55:09am

re: #608 NelsFree

This just in from the Chicago Trib:

As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month.

Honestly, you can't make this stuff up...

Link?

625 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:55:12am

re: #611 WriterMom

Does the crescent key convert people to Islam?

That key is "sleep mode." Don't press it. On some computers, depending on how it's set up in the system properties, it winds up locking up your system.

At least I've had bad times with my "sleep" option on my HP. I don't touch it.

626 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:55:14am
627 AMER1CAN  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:55:15am

OT: Interesting picture of the day. The cars on stage provides a nice touch, don't you think?

628 Pietr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:55:29am

re: #607 Hard Right

Or think about Elephants......:>0

629 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:55:30am

re: #611 WriterMom

Does the crescent key convert people to Islam?

Or it makes fresh crescent rolls.

630 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:55:42am

re: #622 HoosierHoops

I saved the world last week.. It's somebody elses turn today.

Batman? Is that you?

631 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:55:43am

re: #608 NelsFree

This just in from the Chicago Trib:

As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month.

Honestly, you can't make this stuff up...

Too late- I bought another one. . .you know, because I am a clinger. . .gotta have guns to cling to:)

632 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:55:49am

re: #598 Walter L. Newton

What are we doing to save the world today?

I paid bills this a.m. AFAIK, that makes me the backbone of the US economy.

/

633 Kenneth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:56:25am
634 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:56:41am

re: #627 AMER1CAN

OT: Interesting picture of the day. The cars on stage provides a nice touch, don't you think?

Oh, sweet Jesus!

635 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:56:43am

re: #575 buzzsawmonkey

One could, of course, cite some of the shining exemplars of American good government--Alcee Hastings, Ray Nagin, Kwame Kilpatrick, Sharpe James, Maxine Waters, Charles Rangel--but that would invite disclaimers based on "American racism," which is why I prefer the Africa comparison.

And, speaking of Memphis, what about Willie Herrington and the majority of the Ford clan? Most are beyond corrupt, and Ophelia is a freakin' loon.

636 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:56:48am

re: #610 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Stupidest button I saw in a pass card program was "Delete All".

/swear I am not making it up.

637 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:56:52am

re: #629 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Or lops your head off...

638 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:56:56am

re: #599 Wyatt Earp

Or they flushed their Korans.

That would be more henious than airraiding their villages.
How do you get those things to flush anyway?

639 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:57:12am

re: #595 pingjockey Good morning ping! I should be so lucky as to have a direct line to the short shit.
Seriously, this new computer is FAST - but I can't believe how many software makers don't make VISTA compatible software!
And this keyboard has me all messed up cause it came without a manual (though the keys on the right side of the Keyboard look like control keys for CD/DVD operations)! How are you doing today my friend?

640 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:57:16am

re: #635 MandyManners

And, speaking of Memphis, what about Willie Herrington and the majority of the Ford clan? Most are beyond corrupt, and Ophelia is a freakin' loon.

Cynthia McKinney

641 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:57:17am

re: #623 MandyManners

I got off the phone with my cousin a few moments ago. She was bubbling with excitement to tell me that she heard that gas is $1.17 in West Memphis and $.99 in Jonesboro, AR. Any Lizards from Arkansas?

Why do you want to know. What, you got some cousins talking too much again. They are no relations, I don't think. Anyway, I don't know them.
/

642 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:57:22am

re: #618 Ward Cleaver

The Little General?

He's short?

643 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:57:33am

re: #631 DisturbedEma

Too late- I bought another one. . .you know, because I am a clinger. . .gotta have guns to cling to:)

Well now, you cant do that and not SHOW us the toy!

644 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:57:34am

re: #617 Dasher

This one? [Link: dessertyears.files.wordpress.com...]

Darned work internet filter. (God bless our slow season)

645 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:57:44am
646 tfc3rid  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:57:44am

What is everyone's take on the Chicago factory workers having a sit-in after they have been laid off?

I see that they have the support of President Elect The One.

647 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:57:45am

re: #633 Kenneth

Nice, my little anti-racism triva master!

648 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:57:54am

re: #640 DisturbedEma

Cynthia McKinney

Ugh. Too early in the morning to think about her. Those eyes....

649 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:58:01am

Some employees, union types. Laid off are staging a sit in and have taken over the plant. Just on FNC, Chicago, IIRC. Which I probably don't.

650 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:58:09am

re: #627 AMER1CAN

OT: Interesting picture of the day. The cars on stage provides a nice touch, don't you think?

"I command the foul demons that have possessed this manifold to be gone!"

651 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:58:15am

re: #638 opnion

That would be more henious than airraiding their villages.
How do you get those things to flush anyway?

You need a really big potty!

652 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:58:17am

re: #642 MandyManners

That's one way of putting it.

653 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:58:24am

re: #575 buzzsawmonkey

Here's another missing: William "Cold Cash" Jefferson, who was finally sent packing by his Louisiana constituents. Good riddance. Jefferson blamed low turnout for his loss.

I think his corruption and greed was a big factor.

654 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:58:31am

re: #619 pingjockey

Supporting the arts! Wife and mom went to see a high school production of Fiddler on the roof and the boys and me went ans saw a high school production of The Nightmare Before Christmas. Both were having food drives for local charities. Boffo reviews for both!

Someone has adapted "The Nightmare Before Christmas" for stage? Was it a professional road company, a "on ice" event, some Disney thing? I've got to look that up.

655 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:58:44am

re: #634 Wyatt Earp

Oh, sweet Jesus!

I'm pretty sure that's pronounced "Jay-SUS".

656 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:58:54am

re: #641 Walter L. Newton

Why do you want to know. What, you got some cousins talking too much again. They are no relations, I don't think. Anyway, I don't know them.
/

She's highly educated (MS in some sort of nursing thing plus an MBA) but, she can get worked up about some of the strangest things at times.

Gee. She'd make a great Lizard.

657 Kenneth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:59:12am

Good morning real!

The crescent key is usually for putting your computer or monitor into "sleep" mode. I hope you are fine and dandy this morning!

658 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:59:15am

re: #645 buzzsawmonkey

She's a real charmer. Rational, lucid-engaging...gentle.

659 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:59:15am

re: #652 WriterMom

That's one way of putting it.

As short as ShortShit?

660 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:59:16am

re: #601 Ford_Prefect
Thanks for the advice, but none of 'em say anything, they're just symbols - I guess the one of a guy flyin' out of his chair is the eject button!

661 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:59:20am

re: #650 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"I command the foul demons that have possessed this manifold to be gone!"

A Harley-Davidson can annoint itself with oil.

/Top that, Hybrid SUV

662 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:59:52am

re: #639 realwest
Not bad. Need to look at a Farmers Almanac. Unseasonably warm, low 40s to mid 30s. No snow. Looks like a brown Christmas. So the asshats got you a new computer. About time!

663 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:00:03am

re: #659 MandyManners

Oy Mandy-get another coffee! I was attempting to be much more disgusting.

664 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:00:03am

re: #614 buzzsawmonkey

As sad as that sounds it wouldn't be the last time something like that happened. One reason we know so little that's written from the medieval era and the "Dark Ages" was the habit of recycling parchment. They would grab an old skin with useless, to them, information on it and scrap it clean to start afresh. There are actually professors, scholars, and scientists going over old parchment documents trying to glean what ever they can from them. Why do you think we have gotten so good at learning from old garbage dumps?

665 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:00:22am
666 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:00:28am

re: #608 NelsFree

This just in from the Chicago Trib:

As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month.

Honestly, you can't make this stuff up...


Wow ! That's a relief!
And I ...believe him!
//////////

667 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:00:37am

re: #645 buzzsawmonkey

I forgot the lovely Cynthia McKinney, too.

And, all of those African-American prisoners buried in the swamps of Louisiana after they were gunned down by CO during/after Katrina....

668 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:00:47am

re: #607 Hard RightThere is no "red" button! And hey, I've heard that all you zonies up around Phoenix get some snow once in a while - have I been mislead?!

669 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:01:00am

re: #646 tfc3rid

What is everyone's take on the Chicago factory workers having a sit-in after they have been laid off?

I see that they have the support of President Elect The One.

Bank of America pulled the employers line of credit. I thought the whole idea of the bail out was to loosen credit.
This employer can't be a bad risk while sub-prime mortgages were OK.

670 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:01:10am

re: #663 WriterMom

Oy Mandy-get another coffee! I was attempting to be much more disgusting.

You?!

671 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:01:22am

$1.54 in NE Tennessee

672 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:01:27am

re: #654 Walter L. Newton
The high school kids did it. The director, a senior has potential to make it to the stage. Kid is that good. I would assume he got the adaptation somewhere, though.

673 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:01:35am

re: #665 buzzsawmonkey

You forgot "tolerant."

As tolerant as a rabid pit bull.

674 Peacekeeper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:01:38am

Good morning! Apparently vermont is being overrun with Canadians seeking pneus d’hiver

675 Kenneth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:01:50am

re: #647 WriterMom

It's always nice to point out to Democrats & assorted liberals that Martin Luther King Jr was a registered Republican. That's usually good for a few moonbat panic attacks, gasping for air, uncontrolled shaking.

676 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:01:53am

re: #658 WriterMom

She's a real charmer. Rational, lucid-engaging...gentle.

Sheila Jackson-Lee. Who is not so much a symmbol of bad government or corruption as she is annoying, abrasive, and completely annoying. Plus, she annoys the hell out of me. I have never seen another public official as gifted when it comes to talking endlessly and leaping in front of speeding news cameras.

677 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:02:00am

re: #671 Wishing

$1.54 in NE Tennessee

Wow! That's nice.

678 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:02:03am

re: #651 Wyatt Earp

You need a really big potty!

Yeah, plumber at the ready!

679 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:02:15am

re: #634 Wyatt Earp

SUV's right outta the pastors 10 car garage no doubt!

680 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:02:17am

re: #609 Walter L. Newton
Hi Walter - thanks - I just live to entertain y'all - and DON'T ANYONE SAY "WHEN ARE YA GONNA START" neither!

681 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:02:24am

re: #649 pingjockey

Some employees, union types. Laid off are staging a sit in and have taken over the plant. Just on FNC, Chicago, IIRC. Which I probably don't.

There's a few different things going on here. The company gave three days notice of shutting down. According to Illinois state law, they need to give 75 days notice. The company is also refusing to give them serverance pay and pay for vacation time not taken. I think I'd be pissed if that happened to me too.

682 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:02:41am

re: #671 Wishing

$1.54 in NE Tennessee

I had to pay $1.57 last night... dang... it cost me $15.00 to fill up my Civic.

683 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:00am

re: #658 WriterMom

She's a real charmer. Rational, lucid-engaging...gentle.

Honestly, visiting my Mom in the mental health treatment center, I see people more rational & lucid than Representative McKinney.

684 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:04am

re: #610 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey LOL, I won't - hey how are things on the homefront my friend?

685 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:14am

re: #674 Peacekeeper

Good morning! Apparently vermont is being overrun with Canadians seeking pneus d’hiver

Canadians have hives on their penises?

686 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:19am

re: #681 Honorary Yooper
B of A shut down the companies line of credit. Ouch!

687 Peacekeeper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:24am
According to the Canadian Border Information Service, Quebec residents who buy tires here and declare them at customs pay taxes of 12 and a half percent — 5 percent federal, and 7 and a half percent Quebec. There’s no duty if the tires were manufactured in North America — thanks to the North American Free Trade Agreement. For tires made in Europe or Japan, though, Canada’s customs duty is 7 percent.

That's a lot of tax to pay for new tires.

688 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:31am

re: #679 reloadingisnotahobby

SUV's right outta the pastors 10 car garage no doubt!

And they don't seem to care a whit that they're POISONING THE EARTH! (Sorry, Algore moment.)

689 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:40am

re: #671 Wishing

$1.54 in NE Tennessee

Paid $1.56 last night for 87 octane in Joliet, and it's (are you ready for this?) $1.24 is LaPorte, Indiana.

690 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:45am

re: #676 OldLineTexan

Sheila Jackson-Lee. Who is not so much a symmbol of bad government or corruption as she is annoying, abrasive, and completely annoying. Plus, she annoys the hell out of me. I have never seen another public official as gifted when it comes to talking endlessly and leaping in front of speeding news cameras.

Are you trying to say she's annoying?

691 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:47am

re: #685 MandyManners

Canadians have hives on their penises?

That's gotta hurt.

692 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:52am

re: #679 reloadingisnotahobby

SUV's right outta the pastors 10 car garage no doubt!

Ahem. "Bishop". So he ain't from MY church.

693 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:57am

re: #671 Wishing

$1.54 in NE Tennessee

$1.49 yesterday in St. Louis metro...couldn't remember the last time it was that low.

Good Morning, Lizard Clan!

694 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:03:59am
695 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:04:01am

re: #669 opnion

Bank of America pulled the employers line of credit. I thought the whole idea of the bail out was to loosen credit.
This employer can't be a bad risk while sub-prime mortgages were OK.

From what I am reading, the first 350 billion HAS NOT LOOSENED UP ANY CREDIT, and already the pols in DC want to know why.

Do you know why they don't have an answer, because they haven't set up the whole oversight committee to monitor the money.

Don't get me started. This has become the biggest heist in the history of the world.

And nobody can tell me it's good.

696 3 wood  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:04:08am

re: #531 Nevergiveup

The boys are back in town, The boys are back in town. Or maybe not!

As I posted last night, maybe the coach needs to explain to Romo that when the coach says to hit the open man in the numbers with the pass, he means someone wearing the same uniform Romo is.

697 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:04:17am

re: #691 Ford_Prefect

That's gotta hurt.

Not until the bees come out.

698 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:04:24am

re: #676 OldLineTexan

Sheila Jackson-Lee. Who is not so much a symmbol of bad government or corruption as she is annoying, abrasive, and completely annoying. Plus, she annoys the hell out of me. I have never seen another public official as gifted when it comes to talking endlessly and leaping in front of speeding news cameras.

Yeah, but she recognizes the American Flag planted on Mars, during the Moon landing

699 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:04:48am

re: #685 MandyManners

Canadians have hives on their penises?

That's what happens when crabs aren't treated - they start building hives.

700 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:04:48am

re: #685 MandyManners

Canadians have hives on their penises?

Bad, Mandy bad. Just the Quebecers. And according to some of them, they aren't Canadian anyway. :)

701 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:04:54am

re: #682 Dasher

I had to pay $1.57 last night... dang... it cost me $15.00 to fill up my Civic.

Amazing about gas prices falling the way they have: I am wondering what the ultimate price we have to pay will be.
Kind of ironic that when fuel costs go low, the big three go kaput.

702 Kenneth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:04:55am

re: #674 Peacekeeper

Good morning! Apparently vermont is being overrun with Canadians seeking pneus d’hiver

Vive la Sirop d'érable!

703 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:05:03am

re: #690 MandyManners

Are you trying to say she's annoying?

She is like a fresh mosquito bite under a bra strap. On your back. In the summer.

704 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:05:25am

After I filled up at $1.57 I checked log... last time at $1.57 was in Jan 2004

705 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:05:44am

re: #696 3 wood
Mwahahaha! I guarentee you 'Ol Wade is gone at the end of the year.

706 AMER1CAN  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:05:45am

re: #679 reloadingisnotahobby

SUV's right outta the pastors 10 car garage no doubt!

You aint kidding. Went to the pastrors website and you can even view all the photos of his last birthday party bash.

Among other things, the church owns schools, credit union, travel agency, low-income housing, car wash, golf course and much more.

That is according to their website.

/Tee time anyone?

707 Peacekeeper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:05:45am

Canadian taxes are good for the American economy:

In St. Albans, Wood said Canadian customers commonly say that four winter tires cost them $125-130 less in Vermont than at home.

708 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:05:46am

re: #697 Wyatt Earp

Not until the bees come out.

There has to be a c-men joke there somewhere.

709 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:05:49am

re: #632 OldLineTexan

I paid bills this a.m.
/

Sucker!

710 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:05:53am

re: #703 OldLineTexan

She is like a fresh mosquito bite under a bra strap. On your back. In the summer.

I hate when I get that! Oh, I've said too much.

711 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:06:03am

re: #693 scottishbuzzsaw

Morning Scottish.

712 Kenneth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:06:08am

re: #685 MandyManners

Well, sure, doesn't everybody?

713 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:06:17am

re: #704 Dasher

After I filled up at $1.57 I checked log... last time at $1.57 was in Jan 2004

Santa is lucky to have someone as organized as you.

714 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:06:19am

So low gas prices are a sign of recession... hmm things were pretty good in 2004.

715 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:06:33am

re: #682 Dasher

I had to pay $1.57 last night... dang... it cost me $15.00 to fill up my Civic.

You just reminded me, I'll have to fill up my 1998 Chevy Prizm this week, 8 gallon tank. Wow, a bit steep, but thank goodness it still gets about 35 miles to the gallon.

Since I only tool around town here, I should need gas again sometime after new Years. I hope it don't go up.

716 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:06:44am

re: #709 Occasional Reader

Sucker!

Hey, you oughta see my IRA balance!

717 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:06:58am

re: #713 OldLineTexan

Santa is lucky to have someone as organized as you.

Heh -- I am organized in trivial ways.

718 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:06:58am

re: #618 Ward Cleaver
Hi ya Ward - hope all is well in the Cleaver household today.
Dinkens has been outta politics since 1997 or thereabouts.
OTOH, why haven't we included Nancy Pelosi, Barney Franks, Christopher Dodd, Ted Kennedy, Dick Durbin and of course John Fucking Murtha from that list?! Is it just Black congresscritters and politicians we're pickin' on today in celebration of Jefferson's defeat?!

719 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:07:21am

re: #695 Walter L. Newton

From what I am reading, the first 350 billion HAS NOT LOOSENED UP ANY CREDIT, and already the pols in DC want to know why.

Do you know why they don't have an answer, because they haven't set up the whole oversight committee to monitor the money.

Don't get me started. This has become the biggest heist in the history of the world.

And nobody can tell me it's good.

I could not agree with you more. Some of the money was used to by other banks!
They are supposed to lend. I just don't remember Adam Smith covering this in "Wealth of Nations."

720 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:07:24am

re: #711 Ford_Prefect

Morning Scottish.

Good morning, Ford...how are things with you today?

721 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:07:54am

re: #699 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's what happens when crabs aren't treated - they start building hives.

Wouldn't that be when bees aren't treated?

Genital bees... it could happen to you.

722 bellamags  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:07:56am

Good things on Saturday. My sales total for the day was FIVE times what it normally is. Hope other retailers had the same over the weekend. Very good day and I hope it continues (but then I got a letter in the mail from the IRS telling me my payroll tax was wrong for 2005 and I owe them $1000 -bastards).
Other economic observations:
If clothing retail sales are off this year its because the clothes are HORRIBLY UGLY. I have never seen anything like it. Huge cardigans, bows, ruffles, gross fabric, leggings with long sweaters, tulip dresses, poodle skirt looking things. Absolutely horrible. The only thing I bought were a few T-shirts.
On the flip side the Apple store was completely PACKED OUT. Could not move. I paid for my item from the middle of the sales floor-could not even get to the front counter. Perfume counters packed. The mall parking lots were packed (visited 3), the restaurants were packed.
Conclusion: People are more picky with money and want to buy sure things. Clothing this year definitely a no go. Electronics and accessories - YES.

723 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:08:03am

re: #684 realwest

LOL, I won't - hey how are things on the homefront my friend?

It's tough. My Mom will be in the hospital until at least Friday. She's just fearful & anxious about everything & isn't eating very much. Now I have to try to figure out her Union Pension renewal, which she's been receiving since my Dad died. If I'm reading it right, and I hope I'm not, it seems that she can't receive SS benefits and the pension, as she has been for the past 6 years.

724 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:08:16am

re: #706 AMER1CAN

Which in my opinion makes it NOT a CHURCH!
Some churches could feed a third world country with what they spend money on!
*spit*

725 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:08:21am

re: #631 DisturbedEma

Too late- I bought another one. . .you know, because I am a clinger. . .gotta have guns to cling to:)

Considering a Tokarov myself. I have some nice hot 7.62x25 loads I'd like to try.

726 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:08:34am

re: #649 pingjockey

Some employees, union types. Laid off are staging a sit in and have taken over the plant. Just on FNC, Chicago, IIRC. Which I probably don't.

My first post this morning at No. 370:

Fox just ran a brief story about a factory that will not pay its employees back wages due to Bank of America's doing something or other. CBBHO chimed in.

One of the protestors at the factory was sporting a sign that had COREteachers.com on it. I found this:

A group of dedicated teachers, Retirees, PSRPs and other champions of public education. We hope to democratize the Chicago Teacher's Union and turn it into an organization that fights on behalf of its members and the students we teach.

We have seen an 18 percent drop in Chicago Teachers Union membership in recent years and charter schools now control close to 10 percent of the system. What is our union leadership doing?

What is a teachers' union doing at a factory protest?

Here's the site. Their "partner" is SubstanceNews.net.

They're really into Peace and Justice in education.

727 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:08:41am

re: #718 realwest

Hi ya Ward - hope all is well in the Cleaver household today.
Dinkens has been outta politics since 1997 or thereabouts.
OTOH, why haven't we included Nancy Pelosi, Barney Franks, Christopher Dodd, Ted Kennedy, Dick Durbin and of course John Fucking Murtha from that list?! Is it just Black congresscritters and politicians we're pickin' on today in celebration of Jefferson's defeat?!

And you know what did Dinkins in? The "No Fat Yogurt" scandal that Giuliani capitalized upon.

728 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:08:53am

re: #720 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, Ford...how are things with you today?

I am well. Trying to decide if I should put my effort into keeping up with this speedy thread or with the work I have to do...

And you?

729 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:08:59am

Have fun folks, this lizard is off to find some warm covers.

/I heard a pillow call my name.

730 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:09:27am

If the Canadians have to come here to get their snow tires, I'd say we've got them right where we want them.

mwuuuuHAHAHAHAHAHA

731 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:09:31am

I am taking a poll:

Have you, or anyone you know, lost a job due to the current financial crisis?

(I am not so sure we are getting the whole story)

732 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:09:32am

re: #691 Ford_Prefect

That's gotta hurt.

As long as they don't scratch and then touch their eyes....

733 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:09:34am

re: #729 BlueCanuck

Have fun folks, this lizard is off to find some warm covers.

/I heard a pillow call my name.

Night, B.C!

734 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:09:38am

re: #632 OldLineTexan
How true! And how sad that the economy sucks SO BADLY that just paying your regular bills may save the economy!
GAH, I can't believe Bush is gonna help save the Big 3 from bankruptcy.

735 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:09:42am

Any California Lizards....
Goin to Cali wed the 10th!
What can I expect for gas $$$$$$$$$$

736 bosforus  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:09:54am

Morning, all. Hope the weekend treated you well.

737 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:09:58am

re: #728 Ford_Prefect

I am well. Trying to decide if I should put my effort into keeping up with this speedy thread or with the work I have to do...

And you?

LOL! Same place, my friend...hmmmm. Very difficult decision.

738 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:10:06am

re: #730 Occasional Reader

Evil laugh always gets the upding.

/now I am out.
//stop me before I post again.

739 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:10:17am

re: #699 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's what happens when crabs aren't treated - they start building hives.

Ouch.

740 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:10:33am

This is interesting. I linked an article from National Review about Obama Derangement Symdrome regarding the birth certificate troofers, and its getting downdinged like mad. David Horowitz, the author of the article was critical of those who are pursuing the lawsuits.

Obama Derangement Syndrome

The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president is embarrassing and destructive. The fact that these efforts are being led by Alan Keyes, a demagogue who lost a Senate election to the then-unknown Obama by 42 points, should be a warning in itself.

And it goes from there. I thought it noteworthy that other conservatives rightly think the birth certificate troofers are nuts.

741 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:10:34am

re: #726 MandyManners
Peace and Justice = socialism.
Some asshat anti-religion nut on FNC.

742 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:10:36am

re: #700 BlueCanuck

Bad, Mandy bad. Just the Quebecers. And according to some of them, they aren't Canadian anyway. :)

I'm sorry. I couldn't resist.

743 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:10:46am

re: #729 BlueCanuck

Have fun folks, this lizard is off to find some warm covers.

/I heard a pillow call my name.

Sleep well, Blue...

744 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:11:02am

re: #703 OldLineTexan

She is like a fresh mosquito bite under a bra strap. On your back. In the summer.

And you know this because...?

745 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:11:16am

re: #722 bellamags

Morning bella. Glad you had a good day! And I agree, the leggings and sweater dress thing just doesn't work on me either... Did I just say that out loud?

746 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:11:21am

re: #731 Wishing

I am taking a poll:

Have you, or anyone you know, lost a job due to the current financial crisis?

(I am not so sure we are getting the whole story)

Yes I know someone laid off, but that company has been laying off people regularly since its founding in 1996. For me except for lousy stock market, the financial crisis has had zero effect.

747 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:11:31am

re: #712 Kenneth

Well, sure, doesn't everybody?

I don't have one!

748 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:11:47am

re: #551 Wishing

re: #557 Nevergiveup

re: #556 realwest

Pretty sure we all agree that Israel still has it in them to go it alone and win. They may just have to.

749 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:11:56am

re: #719 opnion

I could not agree with you more. Some of the money was used to by other banks!
They are supposed to lend. I just don't remember Adam Smith covering this in "Wealth of Nations."

Agreed. But I know so many people who will chatter on and on how good this is for the country. And I'm talking about conservatives. But I also know these people have a big stake in these banks and stocks and plans and stuff.

I hear people giving advice on a daily basis, and I could clip and paste their comments and it would sound like OJ testifying. A different story every other day.

It's really funny how ones "politics" go right out the window when they feel threatened. I thought it was important to stick to principles, even if it hurt?

I guess I was wrong.

750 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:12:08am

re: #744 MandyManners

And you know this because...?

I thought if I used "jock strap" it might not resonate with you.

I have some familiarity with feminine undergarments, what with a wife and four daughters.

/

751 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:12:10am

re: #714 Dasher

So low gas prices are a sign of recession... hmm things were pretty good in 2004.

They are a sign of depression? Could've fooled me back in 1981-82 when we were paying $1.32/gallon, and that was considered very high, and we were in a major recession. It finally fell to $0.79/gallon during the good times a few years later.

752 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:12:23am

re: #633 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth - WOW, what an informative post and link! Thank you - have bookmarked it for further reading!

753 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:12:28am

re: #668 realwest

There is no "red" button! And hey, I've heard that all you zonies up around Phoenix get some snow once in a while - have I been mislead?!

No red button? You're in deeper trouble than I thought. No sudden moves, but step slooooowly away from the keyboard.

Once in a blue moon it tries to snow in the valley. Causes absolute panic and chaos. Fires, shooting, looting, and some pillaging as people think it's a sign of the apocolypse. Boy are they embarrased afterwards.

754 bellamags  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:12:31am

re: #731 Wishing

I am taking a poll:

Have you, or anyone you know, lost a job due to the current financial crisis?

(I am not so sure we are getting the whole story)

I fired my manager.

755 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:12:32am

re: #741 pingjockey

Peace and Justice = socialism.
Some asshat anti-religion nut on FNC.

Thso two sites...well, I smell Ayers.

756 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:13:12am

re: #731 Wishing

I am taking a poll:

Have you, or anyone you know, lost a job due to the current financial crisis?

(I am not so sure we are getting the whole story)

Not yet. My wife's company has been talking possible layoffs of some part timers, but nothing yet.

757 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:13:18am

re: #731 Wishing
My wifes machine shop laid off a bunch of folks but that was due to Boeing machinists being on strike. So no one that I know of personally due to economic downturn.

758 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:13:58am

Benicio del Toro: idjit.

HAVANA – Actor Benicio del Toro says he admires Ernesto Guevara but the revolutionary icon he plays in the recent film biography "Che" would not need to resort to armed struggle if he were alive today.

Del Toro told a news conference Sunday at the Latin American Film Festival in Havana that he respects the Argentine-born Guevara as a "man of consequence," but personally opposes armed struggle.

He said revolutionaries can use elections and other nonviolent methods to promote change in an era when a black man can be elected president of the United States.

759 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:13:59am

re: #722 bellamags

Goodwill has worked for me over the past few years. Also dating woman who's husbands have recently died. Checking the machines at the laundry is a bit hit and miss.

Oh, I'm not kidding on those hints above, I've done all of them.

760 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:14:07am

re: #755 MandyManners
Smells like a rendering plant.

761 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:14:08am

re: #740 Honorary Yooper

This is interesting. I linked an article from National Review about Obama Derangement Symdrome regarding the birth certificate troofers, and its getting downdinged like mad. David Horowitz, the author of the article was critical of those who are pursuing the lawsuits.

Obama Derangement Syndrome


And it goes from there. I thought it noteworthy that other conservatives rightly think the birth certificate troofers are nuts.

I don't think they are all nuts, just desperate. BTW, I wouldn't downding that article.

762 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:14:18am

re: #750 OldLineTexan

I thought if I used "jock strap" it might not resonate with you.
I have some familiarity with feminine undergarments, what with a wife and four daughters.

/

When my sister was a sorority sister at UTK, they turned the tables on the football players and, instead of a panty-raid, they had a jock-raid.

Oh, youth.

763 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:14:23am

re: #725 Hard Right

Considering a Tokarov myself. I have some nice hot 7.62x25 loads I'd like to try.


#631 DisturbedEma

pictures! pictures!re: #754 bellamags

I fired my manager.

Do you think the *catastrophe* has been manufactured for/by the MSM?

764 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:14:54am

re: #758 Occasional Reader

Benicio del Toro: idjit.

What a jackass. I wonder how great a life he would have in Argentina?

765 bellamags  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:14:55am

re: #745 Ford_Prefect

Morning bella. Glad you had a good day! And I agree, the leggings and sweater dress thing just doesn't work on me either... Did I just say that out loud?

I know. Totally 80's. If you wore it before, don't wear it again.

766 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:15:13am

re: #760 pingjockey

Smells like a rendering plant.

Once you get used to the smell of melted hog fat, you'll wonder how you ever lived without it.
/The Simpsons

767 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:15:13am

re: #642 MandyManners

He's short?

That's what Rush used to call him, back when Dinkins was mayor.

768 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:15:15am

re: #646 tfc3rid
Good morning - uh what about " Chicago factory workers having a sit-in after they have been laid off"
haven't seen that story! Do y'all have a link?

769 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:15:30am

re: #744 MandyManners

And you know this because...?

Tex's personal life is none of your damn business.

770 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:15:38am

re: #758 Occasional Reader

Benicio del Toro: idjit.

I've boycotted any movie or show he's on because he's said stupid crap like that in the past. Moonbat POS.
Pinochet is my Che!

771 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:16:01am

re: #766 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You have never been in a rendering plant have you?

772 Peacekeeper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:16:06am

It got so cold, so fast last night that the road salt isn't working. That's a fun commute.

773 vxbush  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:16:13am

Hello, my scaly friends. This is hell week for me, which is my way of noting that it is crazy with periods of mind-numbing slowness followed by periods of frenetic action. Caffeine is a high requirement, although the thyroid problem is making this harder.

774 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:16:15am

Well, here's some interesting news. Smells like justice.

Tribune Co. Weighing Bankruptcy Filing, Reports Say

775 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:16:36am

re: #760 pingjockey

Smells like a rendering plant.

*snicker*

Those folks hate OBE (out-come based education), charter schools, NCLB, standardized testing, teacher accountability and every other thing that shines a light on the educational system. Oh, and they really hate corporate America.

776 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:16:43am

re: #768 realwest

Good morning - uh what about " Chicago factory workers having a sit-in after they have been laid off"
haven't seen that story! Do y'all have a link?

[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]

777 bellamags  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:16:53am

re: #759 Walter L. Newton

Goodwill has worked for me over the past few years. Also dating woman who's husbands have recently died. Checking the machines at the laundry is a bit hit and miss.

Oh, I'm not kidding on those hints above, I've done all of them.

Goodwill is cool. You can get jeans that are already nice and soft. Have you tried the unclaimed baggage department at the airport? I hear they have auctions.

778 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:17:09am

Later folks. Stay scaly!

779 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:17:14am

re: #770 Hard Right

I've boycotted any movie or show he's on because he's said stupid crap like that in the past. Moonbat POS.
Pinochet is my Che!

Not to mention that Del Toro is ugly.

780 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:17:14am

re: #773 vxbush

Hello, my scaly friends. This is hell week for me, which is my way of noting that it is crazy with periods of mind-numbing slowness followed by periods of frenetic action. Caffeine is a high requirement, although the thyroid problem is making this harder.

You work in the theatre?

781 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:17:28am

re: #764 Wyatt Earp

Forgive the delay (just read it on your site) but Congratulations! on your daughter's arrival!

782 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:17:51am

re: #754 bellamags

I fired my manager.

LOL let me fix that!

Do you think the catastrophe (financial crisis) has been manufactured by or for the MSM? I mean, they say things are dreadful, but are they?
If you tell a co-worker that they look ill, nine times out of ten, they will go home early.

783 bellamags  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:18:01am

re: #745 Ford_Prefect

Morning bella. Glad you had a good day! And I agree, the leggings and sweater dress thing just doesn't work on me either... Did I just say that out loud?

Just realized what you said. *snicker* -

784 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:18:16am

re: #767 Ward Cleaver

That's what Rush used to call him, back when Dinkins was mayor.

I barely knew who Rush was back then.

785 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:18:37am

re: #777 bellamags

Goodwill is cool. You can get jeans that are already nice and soft. Have you tried the unclaimed baggage department at the airport? I hear they have auctions.

My current girlfriend works at the airport (in a upscale art/jewelry store). I'll ask her if she know when they have the auctions.

And her husband died two years ago, I've hit the jackpot.

786 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:18:41am

re: #769 Occasional Reader

Tex's personal life is none of your damn business.

Nyah. Nyah.

787 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:18:52am

re: #772 Peacekeeper

It got so cold, so fast last night that the road salt isn't working

This economy's so bad, even the road salt isn't working.

[rimshot]

Thank you! Don't forget to tip your waitress.

788 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:18:58am

Good morning
Added to the top links
Pakistan suspends NATO supply line.
This is HUGE folks. If the army in Afghanistan is cut off we face a situation equivalent to Dienbienphu or Stalingrad even. For all of BHOs big talk about increasing our presence we face a set of choices of either shoring up Pakistan or dismembering Pakistan while our army fights its way out to the sea. Has everybody read Xenophon's Anabasis?

789 Kenneth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:19:46am

Curtis was the last U.S. Vice President or President to wear a beard or mustache — in his case, a mustache — while in office.

In Whispers like Thunder, a projected film about the three Conley sisters' battle to preserve the Wyandot National Burying Ground in Kansas City, Kansas, the British actor Sir Ben Kingsley will portray Senator Curtis, who introduced the bill which kept the land from being sold and converted it to a national monument. The film is produced by Ben Kingsley's, SBK Pictures in association with Luis Moro Productions.

790 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:19:58am

re: #779 Ward Cleaver

Not to mention that Del Toro is ugly.

That too. Yet he's popular with the women. Fame and money
IIRC he did the Motorcycle diaries. The movie was based on the agit-prop BS "che" diary that supposedly explains why che became a revolutionary.

791 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:20:11am

re: #787 Occasional Reader

This economy's so bad, even the road salt isn't working.

[rimshot]

Thank you! Don't forget to tip your waitress.

In my mind I had a picture of Biden saying that in all seriousness...

792 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:20:56am
793 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:20:59am

re: #779 Ward Cleaver

Not to mention that Del Toro is ugly.

Thank you! I can never understand why so many women think he's sexy. Is it just the fact that he's Latin American? If I changed my name to Mono de Consumición de la Victoria de la Cerveza would I be sexier?

794 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:21:02am

re: #786 MandyManners

Nyah. Nyah.

I briefly dated a woman named Nyah, in fact.

795 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:21:11am

re: #783 bellamags

Just realized what you said. *snicker* -

Not quite awake yet, huh? :-)

796 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:21:13am

re: #781 scottishbuzzsaw

Forgive the delay (just read it on your site) but Congratulations! on your daughter's arrival!

Thank you much! Not a whole lotta sleep going on here, but otherwise, it's great!

797 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:21:16am

re: #776 Walter L. Newton

[Link: cbs2chicago.com...]

And Lisa Madigan, Attorney General, is investigating. Apparently the closure may have violated state law regarding shut down notification. Illinois requires 75 days. The company gave three after Bank of America terminated their line of credit.

798 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:21:27am

re: #657 Kenneth
Well I'm getting better - this longer keyboard had me making typos all day yesterday cause I gotta move my hands - and chair! - over a bit to accomodate the length of the keyboard and other than discovering that my e-mail carrier's - earthlink Total Access DOESN'T WORK ON VISTA and I'm reduced to using something called Web Mail and that the American Flag on my desktop doesn't work with VISTA (got a newer better one, though - this one if you click it, it'll play part of the National Anthem!).
And I DON'T GET IT - Microsoft has refused to ship any computers without VISTA as the O/S for over a year now! How hard can it be to make your software Vista compatible?!
GACK!

799 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:21:42am

re: #788 lifeofthemind

Good morning
Added to the top links
Pakistan suspends NATO supply line.
This is HUGE folks. If the army in Afghanistan is cut off we face a situation equivalent to Dienbienphu or Stalingrad even. For all of BHOs big talk about increasing our presence we face a set of choices of either shoring up Pakistan or dismembering Pakistan while our army fights its way out to the sea. Has everybody read Xenophon's Anabasis?

Thank goodness for the US Army and Lockheed Aircraft Corporation.

/Not Dien Bien Phu. Berlin.

800 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:22:06am

re: #793 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Thank you! I can never understand why so many women think he's sexy. Is it just the fact that he's Latin American? If I changed my name to Mono de Consumición de la Victoria de la Cerveza would I be sexier?

Greatest. Name. EVER!

801 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:22:13am

re: #792 buzzsawmonkey

Are you calling my waitress a cow?

That's udderly...

okay, let's just stop right now.

802 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:22:18am

re: #774 Ward Cleaver

Well, here's some interesting news. Smells like justice.

Tribune Co. Weighing Bankruptcy Filing, Reports Say

Heh, see my #462.

803 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:22:26am

re: #788 lifeofthemind

Good morning
Added to the top links
Pakistan suspends NATO supply line.
This is HUGE folks. If the army in Afghanistan is cut off we face a situation equivalent to Dienbienphu or Stalingrad even. For all of BHOs big talk about increasing our presence we face a set of choices of either shoring up Pakistan or dismembering Pakistan while our army fights its way out to the sea. Has everybody read Xenophon's Anabasis?

Because AQ raided that depot?!

804 bosforus  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:22:36am

re: #731 Wishing

...lost a job due to the current financial crisis?.

Yes. At least that's what they told him.

805 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:22:41am

re: #793 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Thank you! I can never understand why so many women think he's sexy. Is it just the fact that he's Latin American? If I changed my name to Mono de Consumición de la Victoria de la Cerveza would I be sexier?

You'd be incoherent. Rule of thumb, never use a name that you can't pronounce when taking a sobriety test.

806 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:22:46am

re: #801 Occasional Reader

That's udderly...

okay, let's just stop right now.

Imagine how fast she'll bring you a milk shake, though.

807 Dasher  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:22:52am

re: #774 Ward Cleaver

Well, here's some interesting news. Smells like justice.

Tribune Co. Weighing Bankruptcy Filing, Reports Say

But aren't they too big to fail?

808 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:22:57am

re: #794 Occasional Reader

I briefly dated a woman named Nyah, in fact.

Was her last name Neener?

If she became a grandmother, would she be Nanny Nyah Neener?

809 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:22:58am

re: #793 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

If I changed my name to Mono de Consumición de la Victoria de la Cerveza would I be sexier?

You would at least be más macho.

810 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:22:59am

re: #794 Occasional Reader

I briefly dated a woman named Nyah, in fact.

Why briefly?

811 Kenneth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:23:32am

re: #798 realwest

How hard can it be to make your software Vista application compatible?!
GACK!

812 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:23:48am

"The Queen's English" Alert:
Until a few days ago it was "nucular" instead of "nuclear".
Now, it's "infastructure" instead of "infrastructure". EVERYONE in the MSM and in gubmint is saying "infastructure".
I haven't heard it pronounced properly with the "r" at all lately, and I have been listening for it.
Did the "r" melt down at the same time as the stock mahket?

813 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:24:17am

re: #801 Occasional Reader

That's udderly...

okay, let's just stop right now.

You're not gonna' milk it some more?

814 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:24:22am

re: #800 Wyatt Earp

Greatest. Name. EVER!

'cept I'd correct it to: Mono de la Victoria que Consume Cerveza.

815 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:24:35am

re: #808 OldLineTexan

Was her last name Neener?

If she became a grandmother, would she be Nanny Nyah Neener?

Her last name was "Who." Everyone thought she was a cowboy.

816 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:25:01am

re: #810 MandyManners

Why briefly?

She was begging to be ravished, and he responded "Nyah,...".

He woke up three hours later, with a lump the size of a dodo egg on his forehead and his apartment cleaned out.

817 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:25:05am

re: #788 lifeofthemind

Good morning
Added to the top links
Pakistan suspends NATO supply line.
This is HUGE folks. If the army in Afghanistan is cut off we face a situation equivalent to Dienbienphu or Stalingrad even. For all of BHOs big talk about increasing our presence we face a set of choices of either shoring up Pakistan or dismembering Pakistan while our army fights its way out to the sea. Has everybody read Xenophon's Anabasis?


Can't let them do this. Our troops need to be supplied. The Taliban will continue to be supplied from the tribal areqas, like the cadres in the South got supplied along the Ho Chi Minh Trail

818 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:25:11am

re: #798 realwest

Well I'm getting better - this longer keyboard had me making typos all day yesterday cause I gotta move my hands - and chair! - over a bit to accomodate the length of the keyboard and other than discovering that my e-mail carrier's - earthlink Total Access DOESN'T WORK ON VISTA and I'm reduced to using something called Web Mail and that the American Flag on my desktop doesn't work with VISTA (got a newer better one, though - this one if you click it, it'll play part of the National Anthem!).
And I DON'T GET IT - Microsoft has refused to ship any computers without VISTA as the O/S for over a year now! How hard can it be to make your software Vista compatible?!
GACK!

Real

That's MICROSOFT'S FAULT, not the third party software developers. Microsoft makes it hard for third party manufacturers to get up to spec on all the changes in a new operating system.

Microsoft wants you to purchase THIER software, not third party products. And they want you to buy products that MICROSOFT recommends.

It's all business games, and you loose.

819 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:25:24am

re: #793 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Thank you! I can never understand why so many women think he's sexy. Is it just the fact that he's Latin American? If I changed my name to Mono de Consumición de la Victoria de la Cerveza would I be sexier?

Sad but true, nice guys finish last. There are exceptions of course, but nice guys finish last. Done. Deal. Smarmy, swarthy, and abusive? You win the model. Nice, intelligent, and shy? Good luck...

I swear Sally Jesse Raphael proved that with her million shows on abuse and all the women with broken faces, cracked ribs, and black eyes were quoted, "But I love him!"...

820 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:25:41am

re: #810 MandyManners

re: #794 Occasional Reader

I briefly dated a woman named Nyah, in fact.

Why briefly?

I'll never understand it. I showed her my Death's Head Moth collection, and she stopped returing my calls. Weird.

821 Kenneth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:25:41am

re: #788 lifeofthemind

It's not clear at this point whether Pakistan is blocking the NATO supply chain, or has suspended the transit while security problems are addressed.

822 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:25:56am

re: #799 OldLineTexan

Thank goodness for the US Army and Lockheed Aircraft Corporation.

/Not Dien Bien Phu. Berlin.

Wish I agreed, can't supply the Army by airlift alone. 90% comes in by ship then is trucked/rail shipped to the Khyber and Kabul or a small amount straight North to Kandahar

823 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:25:59am

re: #814 Occasional Reader

'cept I'd correct it to: Mono de la Victoria que Consume Cerveza.

True. I don't consume victory and beer. I do consume Victory Beer, however.

824 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:26:03am

re: #681 Honorary Yooper
Hey there HY! Do you mean to tell me that Illinois State law requires a private business to give 75 days notice of when they are closing or laying off employees? WTH kind of law is that?! It's like that French law that says you can't fire someone for virtually any reason after they've been working for you for two years or somesuch.

825 bellamags  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:26:04am

re: #782 Wishing

LOL let me fix that!

Do you think the catastrophe (financial crisis) has been manufactured by or for the MSM? I mean, they say things are dreadful, but are they?
If you tell a co-worker that they look ill, nine times out of ten, they will go home early.

I feel the current economic shift started a couple of years ago when they raised the interest rates from super low to kinda low. Construction came to a screeching halt around here and from there it has snowballed. The media smelled fresh meat and has stirred this thing up to be a horrible economic disaster. I believe the MFM has control over public perception towards everything and they have created this situation to benefit the next president. After Jan. 20th, expect the economic situation to magically turn around.

826 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:26:15am

re: #816 OldLineTexan

She was begging to be ravished, and he responded "Nyah,...".

He woke up three hours later, with a lump the size of a dodo egg on his forehead and his apartment cleaned out.

Well, it's his own fault. Never pass up a chance to ravish a woman.

827 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:26:55am

re: #820 Occasional Reader

I'll never understand it. I showed her my Death's Head Moth collection, and she stopped returing my calls. Weird.

Some women...!

828 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:26:58am

re: #801 Occasional Reader

That's udderly...

okay, let's just stop right now.

But it was moooooving well.

829 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:27:02am

re: #826 MandyManners

Well, it's his own fault. Never pass up a chance to ravish a woman.

That's written on my headborad. Ha!

830 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:27:03am

re: #822 lifeofthemind

Wish I agreed, can't supply the Army by airlift alone. 90% comes in by ship then is trucked/rail shipped to the Khyber and Kabul or a small amount straight North to Kandahar

It won't last, and if it comes to aircraft, it will be made to work.

831 Wishing  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:27:21am

re: #818 Walter L. Newton

Real

That's MICROSOFT'S FAULT, not the third party software developers. Microsoft makes it hard for third party manufacturers to get up to spec on all the changes in a new operating system.

Microsoft wants you to purchase THIER software, not third party products. And they want you to buy products that MICROSOFT recommends.

It's all business games, and you loose.

I think the third party peeps have to buy a license so their product will run on Vista. It is just more microsoft rape

832 bellamags  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:27:50am

re: #792 buzzsawmonkey

Are you calling my waitress a cow?

Your comment makes me curious. Did you watch "Tommy Boy" this weekend?

833 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:28:16am

re: #819 Oh no...Sand People!

Sad but true, nice guys finish last. There are exceptions of course, but nice guys finish last. Done. Deal. Smarmy, swarthy, and abusive? You win the model. Nice, intelligent, and shy? Good luck...

See here for an extensive discussion of that phenomenon (from a highfalutin' conservative publication, no less).

That said, I did okay in my dating years, and I'm generally a nice guy.
I think.

834 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:28:24am
835 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:28:25am

re: #832 bellamags

Your comment makes me curious. Did you watch "Tommy Boy" this weekend?

Part of our Holiday Cavalcade of Dead Comedians?

836 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:28:40am

re: #826 MandyManners

Well, it's his own fault. Never pass up a chance to ravish a woman.

Ravishing always goes to the top of my date book!

837 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:28:43am

re: #832 bellamags

Your comment makes me curious. Did you watch "Tommy Boy" this weekend?

"Tommy likey. Tommy want wingy!"

838 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:28:51am

re: #696 3 wood
Hey 3 wood - how are you today - I was getting my new puter up and running and missed the Giant's game - did you see it? What the hell happened? We shoulda beaten Philly like a drum!

839 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:28:54am

re: #800 Wyatt Earp

Greatest. Name. EVER!

Just looked at your site. Beautiful baby. Beautiful family. Maybe not so beautiful homecoming, sounds like all hell broke loose. Hope things are better now.

840 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:28:56am

re: #823 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

True. I don't consume victory and beer. I do consume Victory Beer, however.

It makes a good chaser for your Victory Gin, at the Chestnut Tree Cafe.

841 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:28:58am

re: #828 opnion

But it was moooooving well.

Whether or not to continue this is a horny dilemma.

842 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:29:08am

re: #793 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Thank you! I can never understand why so many women think he's sexy. Is it just the fact that he's Latin American? If I changed my name to Mono de Consumición de la Victoria de la Cerveza would I be sexier?

Fame and money. Although some ladies simply prefer us dark Latin types. ;)

843 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:29:09am

re: #833 Occasional Reader


That said, I did okay in my dating years, and I'm generally a nice guy.
I think.

Two dozen lesbians in therapy. That's all I'm sayin'.

844 bellamags  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:29:17am

re: #820 Occasional Reader

I'll never understand it. I showed her my Death's Head Moth collection, and she stopped returing my calls. Weird.

LOL.

845 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:29:31am

1.41 in Columbia, SC re: #677 MandyManners

Wow! That's nice.

846 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:29:48am

re: #839 reine.de.tout

Just looked at your site. Beautiful baby. Beautiful family. Maybe not so beautiful homecoming, sounds like all hell broke loose. Hope things are better now.

Thank you! Erik (4) is over his flu bug, so things are returning back to semi-normal. I miss the sleep, though. Sleep was nice.

847 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:30:14am
848 bellamags  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:30:25am

re: #834 buzzsawmonkey

Nope.

Cow tipping scene.

849 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:30:30am

re: #812 Spare O'Lake

"The Queen's English" Alert:
Until a few days ago it was "nucular" instead of "nuclear".
Now, it's "infastructure" instead of "infrastructure". EVERYONE in the MSM and in gubmint is saying "infastructure".
I haven't heard it pronounced properly with the "r" at all lately, and I have been listening for it.
Did the "r" melt down at the same time as the stock mahket?

The letter R has been laid off!

850 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:30:45am

re: #846 Wyatt Earp

Thank you! Erik (4) is over his flu bug, so things are returning back to semi-normal. I miss the sleep, though. Sleep was nice.

Ah, a proper Viking name. I wanted to name Mitchell "Magnus Bjorn", but they did not give his mother enough medication.

/

851 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:30:57am

re: #843 OldLineTexan

Two dozen lesbians in therapy.

Ah, "The L Word", Showtime.

852 bellamags  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:31:07am

re: #841 Ford_Prefect

Whether or not to continue this is a horny dilemma.

We need to steer this thread in the right direction

853 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:31:20am

re: #843 OldLineTexan

Two dozen lesbians in therapy. That's all I'm sayin'.

Multiple lesbian groups send me thank you cards for helping swell their ranks.

854 realwest  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:31:24am

re: #721 Occasional Reader
Oh! Bee Gees! the WORST!
:)

855 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:31:27am

re: #842 Hard Right

Fame and money. Although some ladies simply prefer us dark Latin types. ;)

Bob Balaban is also a rich & famous actor, but somehow he never makes People Magazine's Sexiest Men Alive issue.

856 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:31:36am

bbiaw

857 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:31:38am

re: #851 Occasional Reader

Ah, "The L Word", Showtime.

If it's not on Extended Basic Cable, I never saw it.

858 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:31:39am

re: #774 Ward Cleaver

Well, here's some interesting news. Smells like justice.

Tribune Co. Weighing Bankruptcy Filing, Reports Say

Ward -

Let's go ONE STEP FURTHER - NYT to mortgage or sell leaseback their building in Midtown NY. One of their lines of credit expires 5/2009. They are looking for $225 Million to replace it. Without it, by 6/2009 the NYT would be effectively bankrupt. Comments?

-S-

859 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:31:41am

re: #835 OldLineTexan

Part of our Holiday Cavalcade of Dead Comedians?

See my earlier post in that vein (for those that were not here):

Last night on local taxpayer television they ran some old Victor Borge clips. If you have never watched him I strongly suggest you look him up and do so. He was one of the funniest men who ever lived. Here is his idea for Phonetic Pronunciation. Enjoy.

860 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:32:04am

re: #846 Wyatt Earp

Thank you! Erik (4) is over his flu bug, so things are returning back to semi-normal. I miss the sleep, though. Sleep was nice.

Ah, I think you can forget it for the next, gee, at least 5 years or so.

861 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:32:15am

re: #847 buzzsawmonkey

Wow. I knew the culture wars were heating up, but they've really changed "The Twelve Days of Christmas" a lot in the last couple of years.

"Five . . . nipple rings!"

862 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:32:27am

re: #855 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Bob Balaban is also a rich & famous actor, but somehow he never makes People Magazine's Sexiest Men Alive issue.

That would take Bill Gates money. Ick

863 opnion  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:32:42am

re: #821 Kenneth

It's not clear at this point whether Pakistan is blocking the NATO supply chain, or has suspended the transit while security problems are addressed.

Bet that you are right.

864 babes  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:32:47am

re: #731 Wishing

Just did - on Friday.

865 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:32:50am

re: #849 Hard Right

The letter R has been laid off!

Cutbacks. All "R"s have been downsized to "P"s.

866 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:33:22am

re: #821 Kenneth

It's not clear at this point whether Pakistan is blocking the NATO supply chain, or has suspended the transit while security problems are addressed.

Pakistan is dissolving in a three sided civil war. THe nukes mean that India has to get to make the call on what to do since they are the ones facing nuclear attack now. Eventually the Pak nuke technology will show up in a shipping container near you. If we can't supply the Army they have to get out. I'm confident that staff officers are reviewing contingency plans now. They always should be anyway. Ideally the non-Taliban elements in the Pak army align with the Urban elites against the radicals and cut a deal with India. It may happen and they may be able to hold the supply line open but it is not a guarantee. I'd love to see an Indian army to the West of Pakistan in Jalabad.

867 Kenneth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:33:31am

Pak on track to being named terrorist state

The United States is dusting off a long-discarded proposal to declare Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism. But with the Bush administration now in its final six weeks in office, a decision in this regard is being left to the incoming Obama government, sources said, contingent on corrective actions taken in the meantime by Islamabad to the satisfaction of India, US and other countries affected by Pakistan's toxic export of death.

US intelligence circles are now re-evaluating Pakistan's contribution to the war on terror, and the ISI's dominant role in the country and its ties with jihadi outfits, at the behest of the Bush administration. The White House itself lost faith in the Pakistan Army's bonafides several months ago which led to Washington's decision to withdraw support to military ruler Pervez Musharraf and back a new civilian government, officials and congressional aides who spoke on background explained. The decision to dump Musharraf was taken at vice-president Dick Cheney recommendation, they added, because of evidence that Pakistan was continuing to help Taliban elements attacking Nato forces.

Now the Bush administration is even more convinced that the Pakistani Army and its intelligence arm ISI, who still calls the shots in Islamabad, are continuing their toxic policies. But firm action against them is constrained by both the transition phase in Washington and the US dependence on Pakistan to maintain supply lines to its troops in land-locked Afghanistan. Officials are now re-examining options in this regard, particularly US leverage against Islamabad if Pakistan considers interdiction strategies.

868 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:33:33am

re: #865 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Cutbacks. All "R"s have been downsized to "P"s.

Which will probably negatively affect the market share of "Toys P Us".

869 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:33:37am

re: #851 Occasional Reader

Ah, "The L Word", Showtime.

Sounds more like a Cinemax type of show.

870 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:33:39am

re: #865 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Cutbacks. All "R"s have been downsized to "P"s.

That's hoppible!

871 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:33:45am

Pigs flying moment.

Abbas states that Hamas prevented Palestinians from going on the Haj, something that not even Israel did. Israel did not stand in the way of Palestinians going on their sacred duty to attend haj in Mecca, but Hamas did.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Saturday blamed Hamas for preventing thousands of Palestinians taking part in the haj pilgrimage, saying even Israel had not held back pilgrims from the sacred rites.

"Unfortunately, this is the first time in the history of the Palestinian people that pilgrims were prevented. Israel never once prevented pilgrims," Abbas told reporters during the haj pilgrimage in Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

"The pilgrims from Gaza were deprived of haj this year -- hopefully, next year they will be the first to come as part of the pilgrim quota for Gaza."

Palestinian pilgrims bound for the holy city of Mecca were prevented from leaving the Gaza Strip via Egypt on Saturday. The enclave's Hamas Islamist rulers and the rival Fatah leadership in the West Bank blamed each other for the hold-up.

Saudi Arabia was also involved in the dispute.

Saudi Arabia granted visas to Palestinians who registered through the Palestinian Authority run by Abbas's secular Fatah faction.

Hamas asked Saudi Arabia to give visas to some 3,000 people who tried to arrange haj through Hamas authorities in Gaza and some Hamas figures said they would prevent anyone leaving Gaza for the pilgrimage unless Saudi Arabia approved the trips.

Hamas blames Fatah for the mess, and the Saudis say that they were willing to grant the approvals.

Religious tolerance and acceptance, courtesy of Hamas. They don't even care about their own religious obligations. The leaders clearly believe that their obligation is little more than the thrill-kill cult.

872 Silhouette  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:33:54am

re: #812 Spare O'Lake

It is hanging out with the "r" from February.

873 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:33:54am
874 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:34:05am

re: #850 OldLineTexan

Ah, a proper Viking name. I wanted to name Mitchell "Magnus Bjorn", but they did not give his mother enough medication.

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I still think they should give nurses veto power to override some baby names. There was a "Lexus" in the nursery. LEXUS! I can see "Alexis," but "Lexus" is a car.

(No offense to anyone here who may have named their children Lexus.)

875 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:34:21am

re: #859 Ford_Prefect

Thanks for linking...I never tire of Borge's humor...

876 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 7:34:25am

re: #868 Occasional Reader

Which will probably negatively affect the market s