They just withdrew the plea, until the two legally represented terrorists are tried. They want to see if they get the death penalty if they are convicted first. These asses are representing themselves.

They're playing to their base: death worshippers.

I hope his wishes will come true!

Thank you for the new thread, Charles. On that note I am outta here! See you Lizards in a few days.

OT: 2008 Bailout compared to other major government expenditures,

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Weird. My little one made the same argument just last night:

"Fine. I didn't want that cookie ANYWAY!"

Another reason I'm against the death penalty. You allow people who want to die as martyrs their wish. Just let them live the rest of their lives in jail.

re: #2 Peacekeeper

They're playing to their base: death worshippers.

LOL! GMTA - Click my nic...

I actually want these guys to die rotting in prison for years. No virgins for you!

"Mohammed and another defendant have said they would welcome execution as a path to martyrdom..."

Can't we find an abandoned mineshaft somewhere to lose these guys in?

The true masochist says "beat me!" and the true sadist says "no!"...

He wants to be a martyr- I say screw that. Let him rot.

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I actually want these guys to die rotting in prison for years. No virgins for you!

OJ's cell has some room

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I actually want these guys to die rotting in prison for years. No virgins for you!

I sure don't mind paying the freight Anything but to lock these whatever they are in Colorado's supermax, underground, for the rest of their wretched lives. Just say NO to martyrdom!

I thought they were suppose to be released because they were innocent and lack of due process.
//

re: #3 2by2

I hope his wishes will come true!

Honestly, I don't. I'd love for him to sit in a cell for years and years to come. Let him be a martyr who died of natural causes.

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I actually want these guys to die rotting in prison for years. No virgins for you!

I want them dead. Where they are going there are no virgins. No virgins in hell!
It's just ROP propaganda.

I know in the criminal justice system that locking away for life is cheaper than execution. Maybe this isn't the case in military tribunals? Even if it costs more I'd want them in jail forever and ever.

President-Elect Obama could show the world that America is on a new and better path, by pardoning Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

/wait for it... appearing soon in an op-ed page near you

re: #15 jorline

I thought they were suppose to be released because they were innocent and lack of due process.
//

Maybe they know that's coming and want to continue living the good life rather than suffer in their home countries

re: #11 CIA Reject

Can't we find an abandoned mineshaft somewhere to lose these guys in?

The true masochist says "beat me!" and the true sadist says "no!"...

How about a deserted island, 1 gun with 2 rounds of ammo and quart of water. Come back in a month and see whats is left.

Mohammed and another defendant have said they would welcome execution as a path to martyrdom...

I thought such a death would disqualify them. If so, I hope they send in an imam to inform them right before they pull the switch.

As they say in Pakistan, a cell can be swell but martyr is smarter.

re: #19 Occasional Reader

President-Elect Obama could show the world that America is on a new and better path, by pardoning Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

/wait for it... appearing soon in an op-ed page near you

I don't think even he would dare to do that.

No death penalty for islamo-fascists. That's what they want. Life in jail is the worst possible outcome in their minds, so that's what we should provide.

Let them be martyrs. I'm sure there are some hungry pigs somewhere.

I say we drop him in the tank with the ill-tempered mutated Sea Bass.

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I actually want these guys to die rotting in prison for years. No virgins for you!

I'm with you. Would it be possible for us to make an exhibit of him- like a zoo? We could all walk past him, bang on the glass, and point and laugh at him.

re: #25 harrylook

No death penalty for islamo-fascists. That's what they want. Life in jail is the worst possible outcome in their minds, so that's what we should provide.

I say give them sex change surgery and send them to Saudi Arabia.

re: #19 Occasional Reader

President-Elect Obama could show the world that America is on a new and better path, by pardoning Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

/wait for it... appearing soon in an op-ed page near you

Actually in the "through the looking glass" world of Islamist/MSM "logic" BO could be seen as "getting tough on terrorists" by not giving these clowns what they want and just releasing them.

/My head hurts from typing that...

re: #14 CapeCoddah

I sure don't mind paying the freight Anything but to lock these whatever they are in Colorado's supermax, underground, for the rest of their wretched lives. Just say NO to martyrdom!

Sheesh, ,that sentence got scrambled.

Why would he want to be a martyr and get 72 virgins? I doubt he'd be able to get it up after the third one...

re: #12 Sharmuta

He wants to be a martyr- I say screw that. Let him rot.

I agree, Sharm. Rot in solid concrete wall cells, no windows and no sense of direction...prayers will be tough.

Better yet make them revolving cells with a disco light!

re: #25 harrylook

No death penalty for islamo-fascists. That's what they want. Life in jail is the worst possible outcome in their minds, so that's what we should provide.

True, but unless we keep them isolated they will do what they can to recruit and control jihadis.

The alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks and four co-defendants told a military judge Monday they want to immediately confess at their war-crimes tribunal, setting up likely guilty pleas and their possible executions.

They're just afraid that Prez. 0bama will release them and they'll have to go back to those medieval hell-holes they came from.

Suicide by court?

re: #29 Peacekeeper

I say give them sex change surgery and send them to Saudi Arabia.

Best idea yet.

re: #29 Peacekeeper

I say give them sex change surgery and send them to Saudi Arabia.

Add rhinoplasty, a pig nose should work...

re: #20 simonml

Maybe they know that's coming and want to continue living the good life rather than suffer in their home countries

That's what I'm sorta thinking, too.

btw - are you still a medical student or have you moved up?
Did it completely freak you out the first time somebody said, "Doctor", and you realized they were talking to you and expected you to know what to do?

re: #33 jorline

I agree, Sharm. Rot in solid concrete wall cells, no windows and no sense of direction...prayers will be tough.

Better yet make them revolving cells with a disco light!

And pipe in the worst music the world has to offer: Morrisey.

Life in prison, no parole...let them rot, killing them is doing them a favor. They cannot be glorified as Sainted Martyrs if we keep them alive. Have them sit there, year after year after year, knowing they will never be free, never be looked up to as a "holy warrior". Just some stupid ass sitting in an American jail until he dies...

re: #29 Peacekeeper

I say give them sex change surgery and send them to Saudi Arabia.

Yeah, yeah, "sex change surgery", that's your answer to everything, isn't it?

re: #27 Occasional Reader

I say we drop him in the tank with the ill-tempered mutated Sea Bass.

laser or non-laser?

re: #40 Sharmuta

And pipe in the worst music the world has to offer: Morrisey.

And Yoko Ono.

re: #33 jorline

I agree, Sharm. Rot in solid concrete wall cells, no windows and no sense of direction...prayers will be tough.

Better yet make them revolving cells with a disco light!

And include a Bible for reading material.

re: #40 Sharmuta

And pipe in the worst music the world has to offer: Morrisey.

Nah, it should be Yoko Ono's Kiss, Kiss, Kiss, over and over and over again.

re: #42 Occasional Reader

Yeah, yeah, "sex change surgery", that's your answer to everything, isn't it?

worked for you din't it?

re: #44 Hard Right

And Yoko Ono.

Whoa.

Okay, guys, let's settle down here. There's no excuse for this sort of barbarism.

That is not a path to martyrdom - no victims, no virgins...

re: #44 Hard Right

And Yoko Ono.

Bingo!

re: #44 Hard Right

And Yoko Ono.

Beat me by a pigs tail!

re: #10 buzzsawmonkey

He wants to confess? Send in a priest. That'll mess with his head.

I like that.

Let them confess. Then let them rot behind bars. This one time, I have no problem paying the portion of my taxes to keep them there. . .and prevent them from their wish of becoming martyrs.

re: #45 reine.de.tout

And include a Bible for reading material.

Those damned Gideons.

/They stamped it, didn't they. (Mission Impossible reference)

re: #46 CapeCoddah

Barney the Dinosaur, endless tape loop,

"I love you, you love me, I love you, you love me..."

re: #20 simonml

Maybe they know that's coming and want to continue living the good life rather than suffer in their home countries

Thats very good!
Especially in view of the situation developing in Pah-kee-stohn, they might actually get themselves killed there!

re: #17 2by2

I want them dead. Where they are going there are no virgins. No virgins in hell!
It's just ROP propaganda.

Yeah, but the jihadis want to die. Seeing that they might end up rotting in jail for years at the hands of the infidels is more of a deterrent than the threat of death in some cases.

re: #17 2by2

I want them dead. Where they are going there are no virgins. No virgins in hell!

Satan doesn't like Star Trek fans either?

re: #21 steve

How about a deserted island, 1 gun with 2 rounds of ammo and quart of water. Come back in a month and see whats is left.

Please don't get me started with the possibilities for alternatives- the idea about handcuffs, pig pheromones, and the prize boar at every county fair in America would be the starting line...

re: #54 Kenneth

Barney the Dinosaur, endless tape loop,

AARRRGGGHHH.

Duly hanged by court of law is different than dieing "gloriously" fighting. I say let them hang, otherwise they will write books and poems the rest of their lives and become celebrities.

re: #48 Occasional Reader

Whoa.

Okay, guys, let's settle down here. There's no excuse for this sort of barbarism.

I say we play it at volume 11! Muwahahahaha!

re: #29 Peacekeeper

I say give them sex change surgery and send them to Saudi Arabia.

I'm still partial to the pig massacre scene from Hannibal as their final fate.

re: #28 Sharmuta

I'm with you. Would it be possible for us to make an exhibit of him- like a zoo? We could all walk past him, bang on the glass, and point and laugh at him.

Wouldn't that come under cruel and unusual punishemnt?
ACLU would howl!

I like the hanging scene from the begining of The Dirty Dozen.

re: #50 scottishbuzzsaw

Bingo!

re: #51 CapeCoddah

Beat me by a pigs tail!

GMTA

re: #10 buzzsawmonkey

He wants to confess? Send in a priest. That'll mess with his head.

Send in Bobby Jindal, a young priest and an old priest...then cue the music

re: #3 2by2

I hope his wishes will come true!

put them all to work in a ham factory

re: #66 Desert Dog

Send in Bobby Jindal, a young priest and an old priest...then cue the music

Did you order pea soup too?

re: #66 Desert Dog

Send in Bobby Jindal, a young priest and an old priest...then cue the music

LOL!
perfect.

re: #29 Peacekeeper

I say give them sex change surgery and send them to Saudi Arabia.

Ye're sooo eeevil!

(Me, I like it ... I'm a baaad person ...)

I am imagining that scene in the Godfather II.

Cheney must've ordered him to fall on his sword.

re: #68 Iron Fist

Give him complete sex reassignment surgury. Drop him off in Karichi in a miniskirt.

Good, clean family fun!

Make it a 2 piece bikini. >:)

re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm still partial to the pig massacre scene from Hannibal as their final fate.

Pigs have done nothing to deserve that fate!

re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, but the jihadis want to die. Seeing that they might end up rotting in jail for years at the hands of the infidels is more of a deterrent than the threat of death in some cases.

Not sure about that. They (and not only those we caught) understand only their own language, and I think we're sending a much clearer message if we put them to death.
Don't mess with us, or you'll die, might be the popular reading.

Mohammed and another defendant have said they would welcome execution as a path to martyrdom...

As the computer used to say in 'battlestar galactica'...

"...By your command."

By all means, let's accomodate them.

re: #63 yma o hyd

Wouldn't that come under cruel and unusual punishemnt?
ACLU would howl!

It would possibly be allowed if the alternative was forcing them to listen to Morrisey and Yoko Ono music. Less traumatic to be an exhibit, I think.

re: #74 CapeCoddah

Pigs have done nothing to deserve that fate!

And a stomach pump before PETA finds out

re: #11 CIA Reject

A person who shares my philosophy. Though I always said, "a real masochist says 'hit me, hurt me, make me bleed'-while a true sadist has the victim restrained, and says 'No-you'd like that' ".

Another idea; award KSM a tenured faculty position at Columbia University.

re: #68 Iron Fist

Give him complete sex goat reassignment surgury. Drop him off in Karichi in a miniskirt.

Good, clean family fun!

re: #68 Iron Fist

Give him complete sex reassignment surgury. Drop him off in Karichi in a miniskirt.

Good, clean family fun!

Rosie?

Punishment.

put them in the bronx zoo. Develop a circular (double crescent roll) porcine area with them as the center of the circle.

Make them part of the tour.

re: #73 Hard Right

Make it a 2 piece bikini. >:)

Like an itsy-bitsy, teeny weeny, yellow polka dot bikini?!

Yeah.
That rotting away on gourmet foods, being waited on by gloved-hands is too awful!
Better to be a martyr than be ''let go'' by 0bama and have your own kill you for not being a martyr!
Really?
That's better?
OK.
But our wheels of justice, even at Gitmo, will be so slow that ''the 0ne'' will probably be letting you go anyway.
Now you'll be going back home as a squealing stoolie on top of a non-martyr.

re: #29 Peacekeeper

I say give them sex change surgery and send them to Saudi Arabia.

Wow! For your name, you can be a bastard!

And, I love it!

re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, but the jihadis want to die. Seeing that they might end up rotting in jail for years at the hands of the infidels is more of a deterrent than the threat of death in some cases.

The young jihadists want to die - not the old ones! They love life.

re: #60 Thanos

Duly hanged by court of law is different than dieing "gloriously" fighting. I say let them hang, otherwise they will write books and poems the rest of their lives and become celebrities.

Very much agree; that's only one of the possibilities opened by giving them a life sentence; another one is parole after 20 years...

re: #75 2by2

Not sure about that. They (and not only those we caught) understand only their own language, and I think we're sending a much clearer message if we put them to death.
Don't mess with us, or you'll die, might be the popular reading.

If it were up to me, these guys would have been pining for the fjords as soon as they stopped providing intel. Since they decided to go the tribunal route, I say let them rot in jail as long as possible. I'm not big on taking prisoners.

If only we could communicate with the dead. Execute him, call him up and let him talk to his pals: "Uh, guys, the paradise and the virgins? Not so much."

/Paging John Edward

The way our laws on insanity are now interpreted, language is stood however far on its head it must be stood so that the plain words don't spell `competent' unless the killer is a wasp businessman and a confessed republican.

Anyone who has made a decision to prosecute jihad to the limit, accepting the risk of martyrdom, is by this insane definition, insane. It's insulting, in the end. Watch for a jihadi attack on the judge who fails to sentence the martyr to death...for that judge has insulted the faith that brooks no insult.

So putting underwear on their head is not bad enough for them?

re: #64 Peacekeeper

I like the hanging scene from the begining of The Dirty Dozen.

Too honorable. Have them pay a little visit to these guys- then scrape the remains into a thimble and flush it down the toilet of a ladies room at one Police Plaza...

Michael Ignatieff: It's Iggy time!

re: #60 Thanos

Duly hanged by court of law is different than dieing "gloriously" fighting. I say let them hang, otherwise they will write books and poems the rest of their lives and become celebrities.

I agree. Hanging is probably the most shameful way to be put to death for these animals. So let it be done!

re: #43 Desert Dog

low volt laser - takes longer.

Happy Eid. Isn't it a riot?

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Hey I'm happy they are gonna plead guilty but hasn't anyone told these morons that Obama takes office in 42 days or so?

re: #42 Occasional Reader

Yeah, yeah, "sex change surgery", that's your answer to everything, isn't it?

Don't they call it "Lifestyle reassignment surgery"?

re: #92 hazzyday

So putting underwear on their head is not bad enough for them?

Depends on the underwear in question.

re: #77 Sharmuta

It would possibly be allowed if the alternative was forcing them to listen to Morrisey and Yoko Ono music. Less traumatic to be an exhibit, I think.

True true, that.
But no reading material in the exhibit!

re: #90 doppelganglander

If only we could communicate with the dead. Execute him, call him up and let him talk to his pals: "Uh, guys, the paradise and the virgins? Not so much."

/Paging John Edward

no, no...it's the unborn silly. :~)

re: #90 doppelganglander

If only we could communicate with the dead. Execute him, call him up and let him talk to his pals: "Uh, guys, the paradise and the virgins? Not so much."

/Paging John Edward

"There he is, The Biggest Douche In The Universe..."
/South Park

re: #92 hazzyday

So putting underwear on their head is not bad enough for them?

NOW COME ON! That is the torture beyond the pale! Pulling fingernails out with pliers, waterboarding, the endless Barry Manilow audio loop...that is torture. But, when you start putting panties on the head...that crosses the line! Charles may ban you for that one!

Send him to Detroit!

/"Kentucky Fried Movie" reference

I want them dead, yesterday wouldn't be too soon. We would be through talking about them and at the most they would be a footnote in history. Their story ends when they are made dead.

re: #103 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"There he is, The Biggest Douche In The Universe..."
/South Park

LOL

re: #95 loppyd

I agree. Hanging is probably the most shameful way to be put to death for these animals. So let it be done!

They'd wet themselves, wouldn't they? Imagine the pointing and giggling then!

re: #40 Sharmuta

And pipe in the worst music the world has to offer: Morrisey.

God you are awesome.

re: #104 Desert Dog

NOW COME ON! That is the torture beyond the pale! Pulling fingernails out with pliers, waterboarding, the endless Barry Manilow audio loop...that is torture. But, when you start putting panties on the head...that crosses the line! Charles may ban you for that one!

We never would have heard a thing about any of this had they been mens underwear.

re: #108 doppelganglander

They'd wet themselves, wouldn't they? Imagine the pointing and giggling then!

Imagine the NY Times editorial board's condemnation of such abusive treatment of them?

re: #95 loppyd

A long term in supermax (like to the day you die) never seeing another person, with a concrete bed, desk and toilet that you can only flush every once in a while with a small slit of a window and 1 hr of solitary exercise time till the day Iblis calls him home would be the best treatment imo.

re: #46 CapeCoddah

Nah, it should be Yoko Ono's Kiss, Kiss, Kiss, over and over and over again.

Or this little ditty by the Plastic Ono Band.

(those with speakers please make sure they are at a reasonable level. I'm just trying to warn you.)

We "accidentally" cover them in honey, and then "accidentally" stake them to a fire ant hill, you know, accidentally...

re: #16 MrSilverDragon

Honestly, I don't. I'd love for him to sit in a cell for years and years to come. Let him be a martyr who died of natural causes.

put him in a cell with a couple of big 'bubbas' and let him be the jail 'wife'

re: #54 Kenneth

Barney the Dinosaur, endless tape loop,

That would be a violation of every human decency.

I love it.

OT, though not entirely:

A very good Mark Steyn piece on the moral confusion over the Mumbai massacre:

Spread a rumor that a Koran got flushed down the can at Gitmo, and there’ll be rioting throughout the Muslim world. Publish some dull cartoons in a minor Danish newspaper, and there’ll be protests around the planet. But slaughter the young pregnant wife of a rabbi in Bombay in the name of Allah, and that’s just business as usual. And, if it is somehow “understandable” that for the first time in history it’s no longer safe for a Jew to live in India, then we are greasing the skids for a very slippery slope.

re: #115 yochanan

put him in a cell with a couple of big 'bubbas' and let him be the jail 'wife'

They'd probably like that

re: #102 loppyd

no, no...it's the unborn silly. :~)

LOL. It's hard to say which of the two is the bigger con artist.

re: #109 NYCHardhat

I've been known to jump out of moving vehicles to avoid listening to that sniveling whiner.

re: #112 Shr_Nfr

A long term in supermax (like to the day you die) never seeing another person, with a concrete bed, desk and toilet that you can only flush every once in a while with a small slit of a window and 1 hr of solitary exercise time till the day Iblis calls him home would be the best treatment imo.

I understand this argument and would be ok with this, but I prefer the dirt nap.

re: #82 Ben Hur

Rosie?

Nah, not Rosie, she would offer them the guest house.

re: #97 Shr_Nfr

Happy Eid. Isn't it a riot?

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

were any of them muslim

///

An endless string of compulsory interviews on The View, Larry King Live and Regis Philbin.

re: #29 Peacekeeper

I say give them sex change surgery and send them to Saudi Arabia.

darn it i got to get a glass covered monitor these lap top monitors just can't take spills from laughter.

re: #84 scottishbuzzsaw

Like an itsy-bitsy, teeny weeny, yellow polka dot bikini?!

That they wore for the first time that day. There would be some very jealous (or relieved) goats that day.

re: #45 reine.de.tout

And include a Bible for reading material.

Hi, reine! To Sharm's point...pipe in music, Tiny Tim's Greatest Hits volumes I & II.

re: #120 Sharmuta

I've been known to jump out of moving vehicles to avoid listening to that sniveling whiner.

*Smiling my ass off*
I CAN'T STAND Morrissey.

re: #122 CapeCoddah

Nah, not Rosie, she would offer them the guest house.

She is the guest house!

re: #113 bloodnok

Or this little ditty by the Plastic Ono Band.

(those with speakers please make sure they are at a reasonable level. I'm just trying to warn you.)

AH, if that is a Yoko song, I will take your word for it,, I have the granddaughter here with me, that would be child abuse.

re: #114 Desert Dog

We "accidentally" cover them in honey, and then "accidentally" stake them to a fire ant hill, you know, accidentally...

I say we release them.

Wearing orange day glo jump suits with several cow bells attached.

In the deep woods during hunting season.

re: #128 NYCHardhat

*Smiling my ass off*
I CAN'T STAND Morrissey.

Meat is murder. Wahhh

re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yes, sure, but I believe it's the right thing to take them to court, prove/find them guilty and execute them.
Also yma o hyd has apoint in # 87 :The young jihadists want to die - not the old ones! They love life.

re: #130 CapeCoddah

AH, if that is a Yoko song, I will take your word for it,, I have the granddaughter here with me, that would be child abuse.

You are wise

re: #124 Peacekeeper

An endless string of compulsory interviews on The View, Larry King Live and Regis Philbin.

I though KSM was the one to be endlessly tortured, not the American public.

re: #132 Hard Right

Meat is murder. Wahhh

My favorite : Milking a cow is raping her.

re: #131 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I say we release them.

Wearing orange day glo jump suits with several cow bells attached.

In the deep woods during hunting season.

Honest Mr. Ranger, we thought they were Elk...they smell similar...

What I heard was that KSM cracked after 30 seconds of waterboarding. He ain't no tower of strength.

re: #128 NYCHardhat

*Smiling my ass off*
I CAN'T STAND Morrissey.

Even I made fun of the kids who listened to Morrissey in high school.

Actually, why not take a leaf out of Stalin's playbook ... send them to a nice little GULAG-style camp somewhere north of the Arctic Circle, where they have to build their own shelter with their bare hands, and where they can spend the rest of their days freezing to perdition or eaten alive by mosquitos.
That'll teach them ...

re: #111 loppyd

Imagine the NY Times editorial board's condemnation of such abusive treatment of them?

They can do so from the next cell over...for the unauthorized released of classified material in a time of war...

re: #128 NYCHardhat

*Smiling my ass off*
I CAN'T STAND Morrissey.

I knew there was a reason why I liked you.

re: #136 NYCHardhat

My favorite : Milking a cow is raping her.

No, that's just the foreplay.

re: #138 Peacekeeper

What I heard was that KSM cracked after 30 seconds of waterboarding. He ain't no tower of strength.

He sung like the little bird he is.

re: #136 NYCHardhat

My favorite : Milking a cow is raping her.

?!

Exactly how are they "milking" the cow?

re: #108 doppelganglander

They'd wet themselves, wouldn't they? Imagine the pointing and giggling then!

They want to make a big propaganda show of their executions- they must be denied that opportunity. If they must be executed I think the old KGB method would be best:

Send them for a series of marathon interrogations. Move them each,separately, from room to room repeatedly. Then, at a random time as they are moved to yet another room the executioner sneaks up behind them and shoots them in the back of the head with a pistol.

OT No link yet but KCAL9 just said an F-18 has crashed into a San Diego neighborhood!

re: #139 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Even I made fun of the kids who listened to Morrissey in high school.

I know. I listen to everything. Even Morrissey and the Smiths were off limits to me.

re: #138 Peacekeeper

What I heard was that KSM cracked after 30 seconds of waterboarding.

I've seen women pay to have more arduous things done to them at the hairdresser.

re: #124 Peacekeeper

An endless string of compulsory interviews on The View, Larry King Live and Regis Philbin.

How about old Phil Donohue reruns?

re: #77 Sharmuta

It would possibly be allowed if the alternative was forcing them to listen to Morrisey and Yoko Ono music. Less traumatic to be an exhibit, I think.

...but isn't listening to Yoko Ono the equivalent to a death sentence?

re: #143 Peacekeeper

No, that's just the foreplay.

Arrrg. Almost downdinged you for that. ;)

re: #145 Hard Right

?!

Exactly how are they "milking" the cow?

Saw a bumper sticker on some trustafarians Range Rover.

re: #138 Peacekeeper

What I heard was that KSM cracked after 30 seconds of waterboarding. He ain't no tower of strength.

I suspect Osama bin Hidin' wouldn't last any longer.

re: #129 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

She is the guest house!

EWW, brain bleach!

Ahmadinejad hints: U.S. planned the Mumbai attack.

Dinner jacket rants on!

re: #143 Peacekeeper

No, that's just the foreplay.

[briefly reflecting on the first scene in Shoot 'Em Up showing Monica Bellucci]

Sorry, what were we talking about?

re: #149 Occasional Reader

I've seen women pay to have more arduous things done to them at the hairdresser.

How much does the salon charge you for an hour in their closet with the one way mirror?

re: #137 Desert Dog

Honest Mr. Ranger, we thought they were Elk...they smell similar...

"We accidently shot this guy. Will he make it?"
"Well, his odds would be better if you hadn't gutted and dressed him and brought him in tied to the hood of your truck."

re: #132 Hard Right

Meat is murder. Wahhh

This is a man who doesn't eat meat. This is a man who does. Any questions?

re: #117 Occasional Reader

OT, though not entirely:

A very good Mark Steyn piece on the moral confusion over the Mumbai massacre:

Stein must not have gotten amadimwittednutcase's memo letting everyone know that the attacks were from 'outside' the middle east/asia/north africa and, um the US did it just like they did the 9/11 thingy.

re: #156 Dustyvet

Ahmadinejad hints: U.S. planned the Mumbai attack.

Dinner jacket rants on!

Oh, it was the USA?
I thought it was the jooos ...

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re: #159 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Imagine the look on the taxidermists face too

re: #154 Spiny Norman

Assuming he is not already at room temperature.

I think that his wishes should be granted. In the interests of full disclosure, he should be informrd that he will be shot with a bacon grease dipped round & be buried face down with a strip of bacon in his mouth. I would want him to know that.

re: #149 Occasional Reader

I've seen women pay to have more arduous things done to them at the hairdresser.

It would be tough to find someone to do it, but KSM could do with a head to toe waxing.

re: #122 CapeCoddah

Nah, not Rosie, she would offer them the guest house.

and a new car.

oops, thats Oprah

Somebody got to him.

Just in time so he won't have to testify in The One's Bush/Cheney warcrimes tribunal.

Anyone say "Good, give it to him" yet?

Been a busy beaver today. Ironing. Laundry. Clean Carpets. Vacuuming. Dog Groomed. Dishes/cleaned kitchen.

Just fixed dinner for wife. In the middle of the cooking? Phone rings. Wife is "Going out with the boys. Don't wait up!"

Pass the Prozac please.

re: #149 Occasional Reader

I've seen women pay to have more arduous things done to them at the hairdresser.

Not enough wax in the world to manscape KSM, my man.

re: #151 2by2

...but isn't listening to Yoko Ono the equivalent to a death sentence?

While it might feel like death, it is possible to survive a Yoko song.

re: #149 Occasional Reader

I've seen women pay to have more arduous things done to them at the hairdresser.

It's a damn shame Dirk can't see that one.

re: #147 Pvt Bin Jammin

OT No link yet but KCAL9 just said an F-18 has crashed into a San Diego neighborhood!

Oh no!

re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Been a busy beaver today. Ironing. Laundry. Clean Carpets. Vacuuming. Dog Groomed. Dishes/cleaned kitchen.

Just fixed dinner for wife. In the middle of the cooking? Phone rings. Wife is "Going out with the boys. Don't wait up!"

Pass the Prozac please.

That sucks brother.

re: #138 Peacekeeper

He ain't no tower of strength.

Keep that up, and you'll have the New York Times defending his honor, like they did with Zarqawi.

re: #166 Russkilitlover

It would be tough to find someone to do it, but KSM could do with a head to toe waxing.

Ouch - and yeuch at the same time!
But - you're right, he looks revolting!

re: #136 NYCHardhat

My favorite : Milking a cow is raping her.

Not sure why, but it reminded me of this joke:
A man is riding through the desert on his camel and finds a sudden urge to have sex. Realising that there are no women around he turns to his camel. Just as he tries to position it, it turns around and bites him on the balls. He gives up and carrys on riding.

A few days later he gets the same feeling all over again, still there are no women around so again he is forced to rely on his camel. However, as he tries to position it, the camel bites him on the balls again. As before he gives up and carries on riding. A couple of days later, he reaches a small village only to find 3 gorgeous looking blondes in the back of a mini cooper. One of them gets out of the car and approaches him.

"Excuse me" she said "but could you fix our car, as we have just broken down, we'll offer you anything in return?"

Knowing alot about mechanics the man takes up the offer and agrees to fix their car. An hour later, the man had fixed the car and all three blondes walked up to him.

"Thank you very much, thats great!" said the first blonde.

"Well what do you want us to do?" said the second.

"We'll do anything!" said the third

After thinking about this for a while the man replies "Can you hold my camel's head still?"

re: #160 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Morrissey is a vegetarian? Suddenly all the maudlin whining makes sense. Buy that man a burger!

re: #172 Sharmuta

While it might feel like death, it is possible to survive a Yoko song.

You mean, someone has been brave (or foolhardy) enough to try?

re: #174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Still no details but it doesn't sound good.

re: #166 Russkilitlover

It would be tough to find someone to do it, but KSM could do with a head to toe waxing.

I think that would require an infrastructure investment plan rivaling Obama's.

re: #147 Pvt Bin Jammin

OT No link yet but KCAL9 just said an F-18 has crashed into a San Diego neighborhood!

Where? I live in San Diego.

re: #168 Ben Hur

Somebody got to him.

Just in time so he won't have to testify in The One's Bush/Cheney warcrimes tribunal.

Haha, is there a nic for a warcrimes truther yet?

re: #179 doppelganglander

Morrissey is a vegetarian? Suddenly all the maudlin whining makes sense. Buy that man a burger!

Didn't he do a cd called "Maudlin Whining"?

OT - Fox11 LA has some helicopter film of the crash of an F18 in a residential neighborhood about 2 mi from Miramar NAS. No word on casualties. Crash happened about 30 minutes ago.

re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Been a busy beaver today. Ironing. Laundry. Clean Carpets. Vacuuming. Dog Groomed. Dishes/cleaned kitchen.

Just fixed dinner for wife. In the middle of the cooking? Phone rings. Wife is "Going out with the boys. Don't wait up!"

Pass the Prozac please.

Aww - poor thing!

Mind - I had to read twice, first time round I thought you'd vacuumed the dog and groomed the dishes ...

re: #178 CapeCoddah

Not sure why, but it reminded me of this joke:
A man is riding through the desert on his camel and finds a sudden urge to have sex. Realising that there are no women around he turns to his camel. Just as he tries to position it, it turns around and bites him on the balls. He gives up and carrys on riding.

A few days later he gets the same feeling all over again, still there are no women around so again he is forced to rely on his camel. However, as he tries to position it, the camel bites him on the balls again. As before he gives up and carries on riding. A couple of days later, he reaches a small village only to find 3 gorgeous looking blondes in the back of a mini cooper. One of them gets out of the car and approaches him.

"Excuse me" she said "but could you fix our car, as we have just broken down, we'll offer you anything in return?"

Knowing alot about mechanics the man takes up the offer and agrees to fix their car. An hour later, the man had fixed the car and all three blondes walked up to him.

"Thank you very much, thats great!" said the first blonde.

"Well what do you want us to do?" said the second.

"We'll do anything!" said the third

After thinking about this for a while the man replies "Can you hold my camel's head still?"

OMG.

re: #136 NYCHardhat

sorry but milk cows demand to be milked if you don't milk them they get rather pissed at you.

Sorry to go OT but : Obama: Don't stock up on guns

lying again?

re: #54 Kenneth

Barney the Dinosaur, endless tape loop,

When did you become so cruel?

re: #179 doppelganglander

Morrissey is a vegetarian? Suddenly all the maudlin whining makes sense.

"Quit whining! Get a haircut! And stay away from those rocks!"

-one of the best Beavis & Butthead lines ever

re: #172 Sharmuta

While it might feel like death, it is possible to survive a Yoko song.

true for one, but a continues loop will certainly leave no prisoner alive.

NO DEATH PENALTY! Colorado Supermax till Hell freezes. No martyrdom for you half wits.

re: #182 Occasional Reader

I think that would require an infrastructure investment plan rivaling Obama's.

Supplying the wax alone would revitalize America's petroleum industry.

Better a 'martyr' than a live terrorist.

Islam delenda est.

re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Been a busy beaver today. Ironing. Laundry. Clean Carpets. Vacuuming. Dog Groomed. Dishes/cleaned kitchen.

Just fixed dinner for wife. In the middle of the cooking? Phone rings. Wife is "Going out with the boys. Don't wait up!"

Pass the Prozac please.

If your wife is going out with the boys, you may have bigger problems than a wasted dinner.

re: #183 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Where? I live in San Diego.

Still developing so I can't find any details yet. KCAL 9 is a CBS affiliate...talking about it right now. One home burning, it was 2 mi from Miramar near the 805. Pilot ejected.

re: #180 Athos

You mean, someone has been brave (or foolhardy) enough to try?

Occasionally, I forget to skip the even numbered songs on Double Fantasy and am forced to listen to Yoko.

re: #187 yma o hyd

Aww - poor thing!

Mind - I had to read twice, first time round I thought you'd vacuumed the dog and groomed the dishes ...

Well, the plates were fuzzy (wife is not Betty Crocker).

re: #189 yochanan

sorry but milk cows demand to be milked if you don't milk them they get rather pissed at you.

What would you know? Morrissey's a celebrity, damn it!
/

Plane crashes in University City

Authorities are on their way to a neighborhood in University City to investigate the apparent crash of a military plane from which the pilot ejected just a few minutes ago.

There are also reports of a least one home on fire. No reports at this time of any injuries.

Out of Miramar

re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Didn't he do a cd called "Maudlin Whining"?

That could be any of them.

re: #23 Peacekeeper

As they say in Pakistan, a cell can be swell but martyr is smarter.

Check out your #23. Getting updinged like crzy.

re: #190 Steve

Sorry to go OT but : Obama: Don't stock up on guns

lying again?

I'm surprised to be saying this, but having had a look at Obama's transitional moves and appointments, I think he's telling the truth. He has ticked off a lot of people on the left, so far.

Fingers crossed.

re: #198 doppelganglander

Nah. "The Boys" is the girls. Just thought it gave a better "June Cleaver" image of me in front of a hot stove.

re: #203 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thanks. Sure hope nobody on the ground was hurt or killed.

re: #194 2by2

correction: continued loop

re: #199 Pvt Bin Jammin

Still developing so I can't find any details yet. KCAL 9 is a CBS affiliate...talking about it right now. One home burning, it was 2 mi from Miramar near the 805. Pilot ejected.

Good news is thats across town from where we live. Was worried about my kids. We get the occasional jet overhead.

re: #201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, the plates were fuzzy (wife is not Betty Crocker).

Should've vacuumed the dishes, then!

:-))

re: #206 Cognito

I'm surprised to be saying this, but having had a look at Obama's transitional moves and appointments, I think he's telling the truth. He has ticked off a lot of people on the left, so far.

Fingers crossed.

I didn't take any chances. Sig Sauer p228.

re: #204 doppelganglander

That could be any of them.

Elvis should have had an "Elvis On Black Velvet" album name. Wouldn't that have been perfect?

re: #207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nah. "The Boys" is the girls.

Peacekeeper! This was your idea, wasn't it?

Cats screwing have more harmony than Yoko Ono's music.

re: #193 Occasional Reader

"Quit whining! Get a haircut! And stay away from those rocks!"

-one of the best Beavis & Butthead lines ever

Was that the video where each time the boys thought it was over, they'd breathe a sigh of relief, only to have Morrissey come back for another affected sigh?

re: #18 simonml

I know in the criminal justice system that locking away for life is cheaper than execution. Maybe this isn't the case in military tribunals? Even if it costs more I'd want them in jail forever and ever.

Except that the first Muslim president would grant them a full pardon.

A couple of things:
1. Do you really want them in jail for the rest of their lives proselytizing their brand of Islam to a bunch of under-educated, but highly suggestible criminals who will be back on the street some day?

2. I am not a lawyer but, life without parole may not really be life without parole. Sentencing laws/guidelines change.

I say kill them as soon as they confess. To paraphrase Andy Worhol; everyone will have their 15 minutes of martyrdom.

re: #216 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Was that the video where each time the boys thought it was over, they'd breathe a sigh of relief, only to have Morrissey come back for another affected sigh?

I don't remember that aspect, just that early in the video Morrissey appears to be humping a rock. (Hence that last line.)

re: #215 Dirk Diggler

Cats screwing have more harmony than Yoko Ono's music.

Your too complementary. I always compared her "music" to tomcats being castrated with dull scissors.

re: #162 yma o hyd

Oh, it was the USA?
I thought it was the jooos ...

///

is that where my paycheck went?

re: #215 Dirk Diggler

Yoko Ono does not sing. It's more like a primal scream.

They want the death penalty?

How fair of them, they have a death wish for me and my family, but they have one for themselves also.

*MONDO lugie*

FOX is reporting the pilot ejected

re: #199 Pvt Bin Jammin

More info on Fox11LA - reporting that the pilot did eject from the aircraft and the live pictures show several homes damaged / on fire. No word of casualties in the residential neighborhood. No new info other than 2mi short from Miramar NAS.

One structure looks like a total loss and several others seem pretty damaged.

re: #210 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

We got the B-2 yesterday here in the Pasadena area. Flew over for the funeral of Reagan's Secretary of the Air Force.

Glad to hear you don't live near the accident scene.

re: #141 Athos

They can do so from the next cell over...for the unauthorized released of classified material in a time of war...

You know they will change their policy with regards to releasing this kind of information during the Barry years.

Has anyone considered that these guys may find Obamatons to be so smug to be tortuous?

/"Kill me now"

re: #207 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nah. "The Boys" is the girls. Just thought it gave a better "June Cleaver" image of me in front of a hot stove.

It did, but I'm not sure that frilly apron and pearls suit you.

re: #218 J Doc

A couple of things:
1. Do you really want them in jail for the rest of their lives proselytizing their brand of Islam to a bunch of under-educated, but highly suggestible criminals who will be back on the street some day?

2. I am not a lawyer but, life without parole may not really be life without parole. Sentencing laws/guidelines change.

I say kill them as soon as they confess. To paraphrase Andy Worhol; everyone will have their 15 minutes of martyrdom.

I do not think the supermax residents are ever getting out...

re: #223 Ojoe

A lot of people are willing to grant that wish!

re: #221 Eowyn2

is that where my paycheck went?

Must've been - I didn't get one either ...

re: #222 picaro

Yoko Ono does not sing. It's more like a primal scream.

Yeah, but what the hell is screaming, it cannot be human...

re: #166 Russkilitlover

It would be tough to find someone to do it, but KSM could do with a head to toe waxing.

His ass alone would deplete the planet's available supple of bee propolis.

re: #225 Athos

Thanks. I just switched channels.

Notable inmates at ADX Florence.

Omar Abdel-Rahman, 34892-054, Islamist terrorist, nicknamed "The Blind Sheik"; involved in World Trade Center bombing planning in 1993
Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso, 16802-050, mobster and former underboss of the Lucchese crime family
Wadih el-Hage, 42393-054, conspirator in the 1998 United States embassy bombings
Matthew F. Hale, 15177-424, white supremacist leader; convicted of soliciting the murder of a federal judge
Robert Hanssen, 48551-083, FBI agent; convicted of spying for the Soviet Union and Russia
Larry Hoover, 86063-024, leader of the Gangster Disciples Nation based in Chicago
Jeff Fort, 92298-024, Co-founder of the Black P. Stones gang in Chicago, and founder of its El Rukn faction. First American convicted of terrorism-for-hire.
Theodore Kaczynski, 04475-046, the "Unabomber"
David Lane (deceased), 12873-057, Neo-Nazi leader, involvement in Alan Berg's murder
Juan Matta-Ballesteros, 37671-133, drug trafficker, co-conspirator in Enrique Camarena case
Zacarias Moussaoui, 51427-054, conspirator in the September 11, 2001 attacks
Terry Nichols, 08157-031, Oklahoma City Bombing conspirator
Richard Colvin Reid, 24079-038, Islamist terrorist, "Shoe Bomber"
Eric Robert Rudolph, 18282-058, Christian Identity terrorist, Olympic Park bomber
Malachi Z. York, 17911-054, leader of the Nuwaubians; convicted for child molestation, racketeering and financial reporting charges
Ramzi Yousef, 03911-000, Islamist terrorist, 1993 World Trade Center bombing
Timothy McVeigh (deceased), Oklahoma City Bombing (executed on June 11, 2001)
Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff, 26301-053, an American drug trafficker and organized crime figure.
H. Rap Brown, 99974-555, former civil rights activist convicted of murdering a Georgia sheriff deputy (Georgia state inmate being held here because Georgia does not have a suitable facility).
Thomas Silverstein, 14634-116, convicted of murdering Federal Correctional Officer Merle E. Clutts
Luis Felipe, 14067-074, founder of the New York chapter of the Almighty Latin Kings and Queens Nation
Howard "Pappy" Mason, 24651-053, drug trafficker who ordered the murder of police officer Eddie Byrne.
Barry Mills, leading member of the Aryan Brotherhood.
Charles Harrelson (deceased), 02582-016, Texan hitman, convicted of murdering federal judge, father of actor Woody Harrelson (died on March 15, 2007 of a heart attack)
Jose Padilla, 20796-424, convicted of aiding terrorists.
Michael Swango, 08352-424, American surgeon and serial killer, convicted of at least 30 fatal poisonings.

They shouldn't give up so easily. They might all have bright futures as College Professors in Chicago.

Hang em. I don't want them proselytizing the rest of their lives, I don't want to read about their book deals, I don't want to see new interviews surface every anniversary. I don't want hard-working american citizens feeding the dogs who murdered their fellow citizens in the WTC for decades with their tax dollars. Try them, hang them.

re: #228 karmic_inquisitor

You mean they won't handle group therapy very well?

OT: shaggy-dog-story:
Of course, the result is rigged - one test dog was a Border Collie!

re: #238 Thanos

Hang em. I don't want them proselytizing the rest of their lives, I don't want to read about their book deals, I don't want to see new interviews surface every anniversary. I don't want hard-working american citizens feeding the dogs who murdered their fellow citizens in the WTC for decades with their tax dollars. Try them, hang them.

We're on the same page Thanos, completely agree with you. It will also send the message that we do mean business.

re: #230 CapeCoddah

I hope you are right.

re: #27 Occasional Reader

I say we drop him in the tank with the ill-tempered mutated Sea Bass.

Is there a link to where I can order one of these, I still have some holiday shopping to do and this would be perfect...

re: #240 yma o hyd

OT: shaggy-dog-story:
Of course, the result is rigged - one test dog was a Border Collie!

It took a team of scientists to determine that dogs get jealous of each other human attention?!

re: #244 Occasional Reader

It took a team of scientists to determine that dogs get jealous of each other human attention?!

Insert "over" between "other" and "human", please.

re: #147 Pvt Bin Jammin

OT No link yet but KCAL9 just said an F-18 has crashed into a San Diego neighborhood!

Oh my God. I hope no one was killed.

I'm more concerned by the seven dots in two rows that Charles has put under the text box. Is this the work of the Trilateral commission or LA Freemasons?

re: #244 Occasional Reader

It took a team of scientists to determine that dogs get jealous of each other human attention?!

Yep - and they didn't even grasp the fact that Border Collies know exactly whats going on and who should be rewarded for what - stupid people!

re: #160 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

This is a man who doesn't eat meat. This is a man who does. Any questions?

Um, question.
is that first picture a male, female, or metrosexual

re: #238 Thanos

Hang em. I don't want them proselytizing the rest of their lives, I don't want to read about their book deals, I don't want to see new interviews surface every anniversary. I don't want hard-working american citizens feeding the dogs who murdered their fellow citizens in the WTC for decades with their tax dollars. Try them, hang them.

I agree. We don't need a new collection of 'Mumia's' to galvanize the deranged left.

re: #236 NYCHardhat

I read once that Kaczynski, Ramzi Yousef, Terry Nichols had their exercise period together, separate from all the other inmates. I wonder if they talk shop.

re: #27 Occasional Reader

I say we drop him in the tank with the ill-tempered mutated Sea Bass.

With Laser Beams attached to thier head?

re: #244 Occasional Reader

It took a team of scientists to determine that dogs get jealous of each other human attention?!

Nobody said they were good scientists...

re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Been a busy beaver today. Ironing. Laundry. Clean Carpets. Vacuuming. Dog Groomed. Dishes/cleaned kitchen.

Just fixed dinner for wife. In the middle of the cooking? Phone rings. Wife is "Going out with the boys. Don't wait up!"

Pass the Prozac please.

I hear that's what broke George Michaels.

re: #247 Peacekeeper

I'm more concerned by the seven dots in two rows that Charles has put under the text box. Is this the work of the Trilateral commission or LA Freemasons?

Drag it with your mouse.

re: #248 yma o hyd

Yep - and they didn't even grasp the fact that Border Collies know exactly whats going on and who should be rewarded for what - stupid people!

In fact, the Border Collie will probably publish his/her own thesis on the experiment.

re: #247 Peacekeeper

I'm more concerned by the seven dots in two rows that Charles has put under the text box. Is this the work of the Trilateral commission or LA Freemasons?

Opus Dei, perhaps?

re: #203 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Plane crashes in University City

Out of Miramar

Wow. Thanks for the link.

/slowly catching up

re: #218 J Doc

A couple of things:
1. Do you really want them in jail for the rest of their lives proselytizing their brand of Islam to a bunch of under-educated, but highly suggestible criminals who will be back on the street some day?

2. I am not a lawyer but, life without parole may not really be life without parole. Sentencing laws/guidelines change.

I say kill them as soon as they confess. To paraphrase Andy Worhol; everyone will have their 15 minutes of martyrdom.

No, I want them to be part of the tour at the Bronx Zoo.