Sticker Shock Sets In for Leftists

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Politics • Mon Dec 8, 2008 at 12:56 pm PST • Views: 212

All is not groovy in the Land of Hopenchange: Liberals voice concerns about Obama.

Liberals are growing increasingly nervous – and some just flat-out angry – that President-elect Barack Obama seems to be stiffing them on Cabinet jobs and policy choices.

Obama has reversed pledges to immediately repeal tax cuts for the wealthy and take on Big Oil. He’s hedged his call for a quick drawdown in Iraq. And he’s stocking his White House with anything but stalwarts of the left.

Now some are shedding a reluctance to puncture the liberal euphoria at being rid of President George W. Bush to say, in effect, that the new boss looks like the old boss.

“He has confirmed what our suspicions were by surrounding himself with a centrist to right cabinet. But we do hope that before it’s all over we can get at least one authentic progressive appointment,” said Tim Carpenter, national director of the Progressive Democrats of America.

OpenLeft blogger Chris Bowers went so far as to issue this plaintive plea: “Isn’t there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration?”

Even supporters make clear they’re on the lookout for backsliding. “There’s a concern that he keep his basic promises and people are going to watch him,” said Roger Hickey, a co-founder of Campaign for America’s Future.

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1 Outrider  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:57:14pm

High price tag. Comes of not listening to the folks that knew better.

2 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:57:43pm

And that's without the extended warranty!

3 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:57:49pm
4 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 12:58:32pm

It's early still. He has plenty of time to swerve left.

5 FightingBack  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:00:03pm

Does it count as a lie if it's in the other direction?

6 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:00:15pm

If he continues to govern from the center, we have dodged a bullet.

7 rightside  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:00:17pm

These are the liberals I thought I knew.

8 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:00:40pm

"I am not the Barack Obama that I knew ..."

9 Kragar  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:00:45pm

Dear Progressives/Liberals,

Allow me to be amongst the first to offer you a hearty "SUCK IT, BITCHES!"

10 jorline  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:00:59pm

Second verse, same as the first
I'm Henry the eighth I am
Henry the eighth I am, I am...

Herman's Hermits

11 FightingBack  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:01:35pm

An empty suit folds in any direction.

12 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:01:36pm

Ain't that a bitch?
:snicker:

13 maddogg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:01:44pm

Give him time. I fully expect him to screw things up completely, but hey, Rome wasn't sacked in a day.

14 J Doc  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:01:47pm
He has confirmed what our suspicions were by surrounding himself with a centrist to right cabinet. But we do hope that before it’s all over we can get at least one authentic progressive appointment

Just who are these centrists this guy is talking about. I guess anyone right of McGovern is a centrist.

15 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:02:01pm

re: #10 jorline

Second verse, same as the first
I'm Henry the eighth I am
Henry the eighth I am, I am...

Herman's Hermits

Hi jorline - that's enry. : )

16 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:02:02pm

CDIAB

Cognitive Dissonance Is A Bitch (again)

17 soccerdad  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:02:14pm

wasssuuup Libs!? "new boss...same as the old boss"...classic line. they stole that from the Who!

18 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:02:26pm

Be careful what you wish for...

19 FightingBack  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:03:00pm

One word for them: Hope.

20 bulwrk  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:03:26pm

I wonder when the Obama is actually a neo-con sleeper agent rumors will surface.

21 soccerdad  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:03:51pm
22 descolada9  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:03:55pm

This is actually pretty scary. We probably got a more right of center admin out of Obama than we would have out of McCain.

And for the Leftists, this is what happens when your pie in the sky boy actually starts to get the same briefings that GWB receives each day and when BHO realizes that he's actually going to have to take resonsibility for stuff.

Reality, it's a bitch.

23 fish  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:04:05pm

I really hope that he is making his centrist picks because he realizes that is where most of the country is. If he keeps this up we may still have a country 4 years from now.

24 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:04:23pm
25 tfc3rid  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:05:05pm

Nah... I'll wait until the inauguration... And then his State of the Union Address a week later... I think we will then see a lot of vrey hard left ideas.

26 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:05:12pm

re: #24 A Kiwi Infidel

Someones gotta post it, dont they?

Gark, too slow!

27 Kragar  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:05:21pm

re: #13 maddogg

Give him time. I fully expect him to screw things up completely, but hey, Rome wasn't sacked in a day.

I'm still betting on Barry having a Greg Stillson moment.

28 Peacekeeper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:05:29pm

NOW WHO'S UNDER THE BUS?

BITCHES!

29 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:05:45pm

re: #13 maddogg

Give him time. I fully expect him to screw things up completely, but hey, Rome wasn't sacked in a day.

Key quote from a colleague today:

"You know how they said the economy under Bush was just a big truck heading for a cliff? Well now that Obama is elected and they are all happy, they've decided to make the truck go faster because they are convinced Obama is gonna make that truck fly."

30 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:05:51pm

re: #22 descolada9

This is actually pretty scary. We probably got a more right of center admin out of Obama than we would have out of McCain.

And for the Leftists, this is what happens when your pie in the sky boy actually starts to get the same briefings that GWB receives each day and when BHO realizes that he's actually going to have to take responsibility for stuff.

Reality, it's a bitch.


What you said. 100%

31 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:05:51pm

re: #20 bulwrk

I wonder when the Obama is actually a neo-con sleeper agent rumors will surface.

That's it! He really is the Manchurian Candidate! Except he was kidnapped by conservative Catholic missionaries in Indonesia . . . you know the rest of the story. His secret NRA membership will surface soon after the election.


Hey, I can have fantasies too, can't I?

32 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:05:54pm

It is no wonder BHO is still smoking. He has received a few enormous reality checks in the past month...And knows he is screwed because of all the promises made in abject ignorance.

33 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:06:00pm

They rigged the election for a con artist and are mad because they were conned.

34 Kragar  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:06:14pm

re: #20 bulwrk

I wonder when the Obama is actually a neo-con sleeper agent rumors will surface.

Well, thats obviously the reason why no one investigated his background more.

35 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:06:14pm

O/T, but an F-18 crashed in a San Diego residential neighborhood.

36 Elcid  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:06:16pm

“Isn’t there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration?”

Bozo intenionally left out a word or two...

"Isn't there ever a point when we can get an actual Peoples Democratic Republic administration?"

37 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:06:33pm

But...is this still "change we can believe in"? I am gonna have to find a way to repeat that mantra in a snarktastic way.

38 quickslow87  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:06:40pm

This isn't the socialist I knew.

/

39 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:06:57pm

re: #20 bulwrk

I wonder when the Obama is actually a neo-con sleeper agent rumors will surface.

I think we should do everything in our power to feed those rumors.

40 Peacekeeper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:07:05pm

Everything that has come to pass has done so according to my design. Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational battle station!

41 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:07:05pm

Remember that warning from Biden? "You're gonna think we're doing the wrong thing."? He was talking about the cabinet appointments...

42 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:07:06pm

re: #4 Hard Right

It's early still. He has plenty of time to swerve left.

I see that coming when he gains more power in 2010.

43 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:08:17pm

re: #6 midwestgak

If he continues to govern from the center, we have dodged a bullet.

That will be the only way for reelection. Thats all these guys are concerned about, the next term, not the current term.

44 poopeedoo  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:08:17pm

Don't hold your breath, Roger Hickey.

45 maddogg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:08:18pm

I'm looking for some redux of The New Deal, mixed up with an updated version of The Great Society. I can hardly effin wait.

46 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:08:22pm

LOL- after all the people he tossed under the bus, these people are surprised he'd do the same to them? Idiots.

47 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:08:33pm

re: #20 bulwrk

I wonder when the Obama is actually a neo-con sleeper agent rumors will surface.

Shhh...Keep this on the down-low...He's an LGF plant.
/

48 opinionated  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:08:55pm

Those who believed him when he said that he was the one they had all been waiting for...will have to wait a little bit longer.

49 jorline  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:08:57pm

re: #15 midwestgak

Hi jorline - that's enry. : )

Hi ya, gak. Hope you're well.

I know it's enry, but I was afraid the pre-boomers wouldn't get it...lol

I got married to the widow next door
She's been married seven times before
And everyone was an enry...

50 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:09:01pm

re: #35 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

O/T, but an F-18 crashed in a San Diego residential neighborhood.

[Link: www.cbs8.com...]

51 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:09:08pm

re: #33 NYCHardhat

They rigged the election for a con artist and are mad because they were conned.

LOL, I have always loved the argument that GWB "Fooled" everyone or stole the election from the libs. I always pose this question to the lib who poses it.
"I thought you said GWB is an idiot? How were so many liberals fooled by, as you say, a complete moron, twice.?" They don't like that question.

52 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:09:10pm

re: #41 wrenchwench

Remember that warning from Biden? "You're gonna think we're doing the wrong thing."? He was talking about the cabinet appointments...

Now that makes sense and is a lot less scary than what I was thinking.

53 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:09:10pm
that the new boss looks like the old boss

Que Roger Daltrey scream... YEAAAH!

54 Ojoe  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:09:27pm

The Left thought Obama maybe was not a politician?

55 Last Mohican  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:10:24pm

re: #15 midwestgak

Hi jorline - that's enry. : )

Or, more precisely, 'en-e-ry (with three syllables).

56 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:10:58pm
Obama is asking for patience – saying he’s only shifting his stance on some issues because circumstances are shifting.

Shifting his stance? *bites tongue*

57 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:11:15pm
the new boss looks like the old boss.

Salvatore Lo Piccolo?

58 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:11:15pm

re: #20 bulwrk

I wonder when the Obama is actually a neo-con sleeper agent rumors will surface.

He was secretly trained in an underground facility outside of Dallas, TX. Act like a flaming liberal until it is time...Rove, you magnificent bastard! You did it again!

Wishful thinking...he is who he said he is...reality has just set in over at Office the President-Elect, that's all. He had to take the off-ramp off the rainbow and dismount the unicorn.

59 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:11:31pm

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. . .at your own risk! As I noted before, the Larry Summers appointment and the glaring lack of labor preence post election is the icing on the air cake they got with this guy. . .

60 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:11:45pm

re: #49 jorline

Hi ya, gak. Hope you're well.

I know it's enry, but I was afraid the pre-boomers wouldn't get it...lol

I got married to the widow next door
She's been married seven times before
And everyone was an enry...


Wasn't correcting ya friend. Just responding like in the song.

Yes, I am doing well, Thanks.

61 hrhamilton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:11:53pm

Every generation has to learn the same old lessons all over again.
You really ought to figure out what a candidate wants to do before you vote for him.
There is no cure for stupid.

62 FlakMusic  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:12:08pm

re: #6 midwestgak

If he continues to govern from the center, we have dodged a bullet.

What do you mean, continues? He hasn't governed at all yet. His appointments may just be his Romulan cloaking device. We should be wary of the fact that he might be lulling the more gullible among us to sleep.

If he were to govern from the center, it would mean turning his back on his entire political track record. I won't believe that until I see it.

Once he actually takes power, can issue executive orders and drive his agenda, only at that point will we see how he actually governs.

63 turn  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:12:19pm

When I read this politico piece earlier this morning I got the impression they had to dig pretty deep to come up with examples of where liberals are becoming disappointed with the one. It would be entertaining to see the left melt down over O's move to the center on many appointments and positions however I don't see that happening, not yet anyway.

64 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:12:23pm

re: #56 scottishbuzzsaw

Shifting his stance? *bites tongue*

Did he tap his heels 3 times? My bad. . .ohhh sassy!

65 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:12:34pm

re: #55 Last Mohican

Or, more precisely, 'en-e-ry (with three syllables).

You are correct, Sir.

66 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:12:53pm

re: #64 DisturbedEma

Did he tap his heels 3 times? My bad. . .ohhh sassy!

Yeah, me too...

67 ducktrapper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:12:53pm

After telling everybody I met who were so enthralled with Mr. Obama that in the end, he'd turn out to be just another politician, I find myself relieved to be right, at least to some degree.

68 rwmofo  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:13:10pm

"OpenLeft blogger Chris Bowers went so far as to issue this plaintive plea: “Isn’t there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration?”"

Ya see, if they tell us who they really are and what they really want to do, they won't get 50% of the vote. Didn't you get the memo?

69 opinionated  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:13:28pm

A fortiori.

If those who should have been able to trust him, can't, what faith is there for those of us who never trusted him from the start.

70 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:13:46pm

Buyers remorse in 3...2...1...

71 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:13:49pm

re: #66 scottishbuzzsaw

Yeah, me too...

There's no place like. . .stall number 3. . .

72 FightingBack  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:13:50pm

We kept warning them about the waffles.

73 Outrider  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:14:07pm

re: #14 J Doc

Just who are these centrists this guy is talking about. I guess anyone right of McGovern is a centrist.

centrists? I'd like to know who is on the Right?

... surrounding himself with a centrist to right cabinet...
74 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:14:32pm
75 Miss Molly  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:14:35pm

How can anyone be "shocked" that Barry has not kept promises he made to the left? Barry's only cause is promoting himself and he will say and do whatever he pleases to accompolish that goal. Everyone else are just props to make him look good.

If he plans to turn "radical left" I would suspect it will be in his second term where re-election will no longer be problem for him.

76 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:14:40pm

re: #71 DisturbedEma

There's no place like. . .stall number 3. . .

But you do need a wide one there...

77 Kragar  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:15:03pm

re: #73 Outrider

Anyone to the right of Stalin or Che is a centrist.

78 Elcid  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:15:20pm

OH...forgot "Rove, you magnificent bastard".

Weird Al Yankovic cut a song just for you, Lefties... Eat It.

79 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:15:25pm

re: #58 Desert Dog

dismount the unicorn.

Akkk. Painful imagery...

80 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:15:28pm

re: #76 scottishbuzzsaw

But you do need a wide one there...

Glory. . .nevermind. . .

81 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:15:55pm
82 vagabond trader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:15:57pm

Why so gloomy librals? Don't lose hope, just be patient, your guy will change like the weather in New England. Anyone who thinks the Obama is actually an honest centrist is kidding themselves.

83 Peacekeeper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:16:10pm

re: #70 NYCHardhat

Buyers remorse in 3...2...1...


What's the connection between Michelle Malkin and a hardhat?

84 opinionated  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:16:14pm

re: #54 Ojoe

The Left thought Obama maybe was not a politician?

They should have gone with Kucinich. No one has a clue what he is.

85 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:16:14pm

re: #75 Miss Molly

How can anyone be "shocked" that Barry has not kept promises he made to the left? Barry's only cause is promoting himself and he will say and do whatever he pleases to accompolish that goal. Everyone else are just props to make him look good.

If he plans to turn "radical left" I would suspect it will be in his second term where re-election will no longer be problem for him.

As I muttered under my breath at work every day. . ."there are none so blind as those who refuse to see"

86 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:16:21pm

re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anyone to the right of Stalin or Che is a centrist.

This is true. He is governing center left unlike the extreme left we feared. But I'm going to wait, because I have seen this before.

87 FightingBack  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:16:35pm

re: #75 Miss Molly

If he plans to turn "radical left" I would suspect it will be in his second term where re-election will no longer be problem for him.

True, but he'll be worrying about history then.

88 imhe  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:17:03pm

Just had a water cooler chat with a co-worker. He voted for Big 'O' .
He is worried now that 'i'll fix every thing Obama' is not turning out the way he liked. I had a good laugh and said 'I told you so'.

89 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:17:05pm

re: #84 opinionated

They should have gone with Kucinich. No one has a clue what he is.

Only his controllers from Rigel IV know for sure.

90 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:17:21pm

re: #79 experiencedtraveller

Akkk. Painful imagery...

Depends who's dismounting. . .there are some I would push back on. . .

91 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:17:25pm

re: #83 Peacekeeper

What's the connection between Michelle Malkin and a hardhat?

None whatsoever. I have a crush on that woman... Sharmuta too.

92 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:17:45pm

re: #42 NYCHardhat

I see that coming when he gains more power in 2010.

I'm hoping he won't. Quick, which Gods do I need to pray to to keep that from happening?

93 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:18:23pm

What's next? After the party in DC when he takes over, are the police going to round them all up to be taken to the drunk tank? The bars are going to be open all night!

94 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:18:26pm

re: #88 imhe

Just had a water cooler chat with a co-worker. He voted for Big 'O' .
He is worried now that 'i'll fix every thing Obama' is not turning out the way he liked. I had a good laugh and said 'I told you so'.

That IS delish, is it not? Fellow lizards who told me this day would come, forgive me, I was wrong to despair. . .

95 Peacekeeper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:18:55pm

re: #91 NYCHardhat

completely understandable.

96 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:19:35pm

re: #95 Peacekeeper

completely understandable.

Yes, true that. . .

97 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:19:52pm

re: #91 NYCHardhat

Sharmute has a crush on Malkin? Or do you have a crush on Sharmuta?

98 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:19:59pm

re: #83 Peacekeeper

What's the connection between Michelle Malkin and a hardhat?

There's a dirty joke in there somewhere!

99 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:20:26pm

re: #97 father_of_10

Sharmute has a crush on Malkin? Or do you have a crush on Sharmuta?

I do. On both.

100 Long Nics are Looonnng  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:20:29pm

Honestly? It is what I have liked about President-Elect Obama.

Me smart. They Dumb.

101 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:20:39pm

re: #98 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

There's a dirty joke in there somewhere!

A firm strong length of rebar. . .

102 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:20:54pm

re: #99 NYCHardhat

I do. On both.

Not that there's anything wrong with that . . .

103 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:20:58pm

re: #97 father_of_10

Sharmute has a crush on Malkin?

Dear Penthouse Forum...

104 bloodnok  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:21:02pm

“He has confirmed what our suspicions were by surrounding himself with a centrist to right cabinet."

They expect us to believe that they were suspicious of this guy the whole time? Give me a break. They thought he was heaven sent for them. Literally.

105 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:21:30pm

re: #103 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Dear Penthouse Forum...

Yeah, the ARTICLES. . . :)

106 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:21:37pm

re: #102 father_of_10

Not that there's anything wrong with that . . .

I don't think there is a red blooded male that would disagree.

107 ladycatnip  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:22:04pm

The media is finally doing its job, hammering away at important issues they turned a blind eye to during the campaign. Tom Brokaw threw Obama some seriously hard-hitting questions - about his smoking addiction!

I feel safer now, more secure. Obama's fixed the economy just by being president-elect; gas prices are down, the oceans have ceased rising and the planet is healing. And, even better than all that, he's even not going to smoke in the WH.

Thank you, Tom.

108 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:22:23pm

re: #104 bloodnok

“He has confirmed what our suspicions were by surrounding himself with a centrist to right cabinet."

They expect us to believe that they were suspicious of this guy the whole time? Give me a break. They thought he was heaven sent for them. Literally.

And groveled before him and smote those that dared to besmirch him. . .yay verily. . .

109 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:22:27pm

He's picked some of the worst people on the left and they are centrists? What they really mean is that they are not their chosen leftists.

110 jorline  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:22:34pm

re: #60 midwestgak

Wasn't correcting ya friend. Just responding like in the song.

Yes, I am doing well, Thanks.

I didn't take it as if you were correcting me. {gak}

Any more cold weather coming my way? Sunny and 75 here today.

111 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:23:20pm

re: #107 ladycatnip

The media is finally doing its job, hammering away at important issues they turned a blind eye to during the campaign. Tom Brokaw threw Obama some seriously hard-hitting questions - about his smoking addiction!

I feel safer now, more secure. Obama's fixed the economy just by being president-elect; gas prices are down, the oceans have ceased rising and the planet is healing. And, even better than all that, he's even not going to smoke in the WH.

Thank you, Tom.

Will power is a vast right wing conspiracy. . .viva la Nicorette!

112 right_wing2  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:23:20pm

If the people the Chosen One has named aren't far enough to the left, I'd be scared to death of who it'd take to satisfy them.

113 oh_dude  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:24:21pm

I don't get it. Mr. Obama sold himself to the public as someone who will reach across the aisle (despite his very liberal ideology). Did the Libs not get that memo?

Or is this govern from the center thing all bullshit?

114 Ron Shaw  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:25:04pm

I fear such jubilation from the right at the lefts' chagrin is premature. Obama's political history seen in his voting practices scream 'Left Turn Only!' When duck, drop and roll time comes, his green machine will be in the left lane.

115 Hard Right  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:26:20pm

re: #114 Ron Shaw

I fear such jubilation from the right at the lefts' chagrin is premature. Obama's political history seen in his voting practices scream 'Left Turn Only!' When duck, drop and roll time comes, his green machine will be in the left lane.

Exactly. The media bleates about them being centrists, but they certainly aren't.

116 theheat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:27:03pm

Since all politicians lie and never carry through with their promises, this really isn't a concern. In fact, this is what I banked on. Forget all the rabble-raising, I was hoping he wouldn't be half as liberal as the liberals hoped. So far, he's no more disappointing than the rest of them. If the liberals are pissed off he's not liberal enough, all the better.

Of course... he has yet to take office.

117 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:28:00pm

re: #113 oh_dude

I don't get it. Mr. Obama sold himself to the public as someone who will reach across the aisle (despite his very liberal ideology). Did the Libs not get that memo?

Or is this govern from the center thing all bullshit?

They assumed he meant the aisle between the Socialists and the Democrats.

118 avanti  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:28:55pm

I rolled the dice with Obama, voting for a social liberal that I hoped would govern from the center otherwise. It's early, but I have my fingers crossed.

119 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:31:15pm

Hillary is a right wing conspirator? Who would have thunk it?
I am suprised he did not opiont Oprah as Secratery of Defense. She could have sat down Osama for him to say how rough his parents were.

120 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:38:07pm

re: #118 avanti

I rolled the dice with Obama, voting for a social liberal that I hoped would govern from the center otherwise. It's early, but I have my fingers crossed.

well, that is your right. . .

121 jcbunga  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:39:45pm

So the whack jobs sprang from their trenches and charged up the hill only to find The One skipped out on the assault.

This surprises them why?

Did they get the correct hill?

122 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:44:48pm

[Link: www.suntimes.com...] Well, the people do not trust him. Maybe he is waiting for the gun ban to come into law before he tries the far left bullshit.

123 rawmuse  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:52:54pm

What I am hearing out of all this sturm and drang is the following:
"I have to swear to uphold and defend the Constitution (of which I am a supposed scholar) just as the man before me did"
Therein lies the rub.
His supporters put him there to tear it apart.

124 Peter Verkooijen  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:54:44pm

re: #45 maddogg

I'm looking for some redux of The New Deal, mixed up with an updated version of The Great Society. I can hardly effin wait.

The New Deall redux already started and everybody is cheering it. This New Deal will have the same effect as the one in the 1930s, it will create a Great Depression and put America on the path to socialism.

Keynesianism never worked and it will certainly not work now. Domestic consumption cannot grow the US economy! That well is dry! There's not enough natural population growth, too many babyboomers retiring and requiring (free...) health care.

Americans need to pay off their debts, save money. The US needs to sell into emerging Indian and Chinese consumer markets with growing, young populations. That means boosting production, export, entrepreneurship, innovation.

Obama is going into the exact opposite direction. His guiding principle clearly is old-fashioned hardline socialism. His "centrist" appointments mean nothing.

125 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:56:47pm

Tough.
Titties.

126 Muadib  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:57:10pm

To all the self-centered crybaby leftists:

If you want to swing to the left so very badly, why don't you move to Venezuela and enjoy a Communist Workers Paradise right away? And don't come back.

127 Crusty  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:57:20pm

We should drive the moonbats crazy and start a rumor that 0bama was a secret trojan Bush puppet. BWAAHAHAHAHAHA

128 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 1:58:17pm

re: #118 avanti

You voted for Obama and admitting it on LGF. Kewl.

129 Winston Smith, Fox News Moderator  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:00:41pm

re: #20 bulwrk

I wonder when the Obama is actually a neo-con sleeper agent rumors will surface.

We were wondering where Karl Rove was during the campaign. Now we know; he was working for Obama.

130 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:02:05pm
131 Dainn  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:04:43pm

Excuse me if I don't agree with the progressives. Yeah, Obama's appointments look rather centrist so far, but wait till he puts people in the mid-level positions, were the rubber meets the road in politics. I cheered when I heard about Gates being retained, but count on him to be out in a year.

It is a tad early to call the Obama Administration centrist. I'll reserve judgement until he is actually president.

132 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:07:32pm

re: #118 avanti

I rolled the dice with Obama, voting for a social liberal that I hoped would govern from the center otherwise. It's early, but I have my fingers crossed.

So far, it looks like those who loved him for being a far leftist, and those who hated him for being a far leftist were wrong. Let's hope it continues that way.

133 Higgs Boson  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:07:57pm

Is it FINALLY time to start selling my new line of Bumper Stickers?


Obama Lied, People Cried !

Obama Bin Lyin'

Impeach Obama

134 Gang of One  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:13:24pm

re: #61 hrhamilton


There is no cure for stupid.

There's no punishment for it, either.

135 Salem  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:14:47pm

re: #127 Crusty

This user is blocked.

Woah! What happened there?

136 Tazzerman  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:16:15pm

Rove you magnificent bastard! I read your book!

ROTFLMAO!

137 Peter Verkooijen  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:16:52pm

re: #132 Jimmah

So far, it looks like those who loved him for being a far leftist, and those who hated him for being a far leftist were wrong. Let's hope it continues that way.

His presidency hasn't even started yet and nothing's he's done so far, including his appointments, really signals he's not a far leftist. So far everything he does is within the Alinksy strategy that got him elected.

138 Gang of One  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:17:14pm

re: #129 shiplord kirel

We were wondering where Karl Rove was during the campaign. Now we know; he was working for Obama.

Has anyone seen Karl Rove and Obama in the same room at the same time?

139 Spiny Norman  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:18:58pm

re: #14 J Doc

Just who are these centrists this guy is talking about. I guess anyone right of McGovern is a centrist.

To the loony Left, Bill Clinton was "right-wing".

140 so.cal.swede  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:19:32pm

Stop with the gloating, guys. Barry'O has plenty of time to make left hand turns on the road ahead.

Wait especially for the Supreme Court appointments...

141 Spiny Norman  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:21:03pm

re: #29 karmic_inquisitor

Key quote from a colleague today:

"You know how they said the economy under Bush was just a big truck heading for a cliff? Well now that Obama is elected and they are all happy, they've decided to make the truck go faster because they are convinced Obama is gonna make that truck fly."

Oh, that's a good one. Tell your colleague we're sooo gonna steal that.

142 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:22:11pm

re: #62 FlakMusic

What do you mean, continues? He hasn't governed at all yet. His appointments may just be his Romulan cloaking device. We should be wary of the fact that he might be lulling the more gullible among us to sleep.

If he were to govern from the center, it would mean turning his back on his entire political track record. I won't believe that until I see it.

Once he actually takes power, can issue executive orders and drive his agenda, only at that point will we see how he actually governs.

The appointments two or three levels down in the various agencies will indicate where his policies are going.

143 Spiny Norman  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:22:38pm

re: #140 so.cal.swede

Stop with the gloating, guys. Barry'O has plenty of time to make left hand turns on the road ahead.

Wait especially for the Supreme Court appointments...

Supreme Court? Hell, there are oodles of Federal judgeships open that the Dems never let Bush fill.

144 jzm  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:24:38pm

re: #21 soccerdad

I guess they WILL get fooled again!

Hahahahahaha!

PERFECT!

Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

145 DEZes  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:27:45pm

Will the real Obama, Please stand up!

146 6pat6  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:33:24pm

I love hearing Lefties seethe. It so becomes them. Seething to them, is like breathing to us.

Did they really expect the flying unicorns and peace to just suddenly break out, because it is "BHO's will"? Did they really expect "Change!" from a bunch of Clintonite appointments? The L3 truly is an ignorant bunch of mono-syllabic mouth-breathers.

They will never learn.

147 Paul  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:33:45pm

re: #145 DEZes

Will the real Obama, Please stand up!

Is there a real Obama?

148 SaneInMN  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:34:20pm

From the article...

OpenLeft blogger Chris Bowers went so far as to issue this plaintive plea: “Isn’t there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration?”

JFK and Truman ran "actual Democratic administrations" and they would be labelled center-right Republicans today. Think Saxy Chambliss...not hard right, but right of McCain by a long shot. And so I wonder, what does Bower's think an "actual Democratic administration" ala 2009 should be comprised of? The more I think about it, the more I want to puke.

149 jumplandpackrepeat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:36:11pm

Sometimes it takes a while for people to figure out things aren't always as they seem.

150 Paul  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:44:57pm
"Isn't there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration?"

An actual Democratic administration, what a terrifying thought. Imagine
the political offspring of Dennis Kucinich and Hugo Chavez.

151 Crusty  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:47:49pm

re: #135 Salem

This user is blocked.

Woah! What happened?

Blocked?

152 debutaunt  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:51:21pm

re: #127 Crusty

We should drive the moonbats crazy and start a rumor that 0bama was a secret trojan Bush puppet. BWAAHAHAHAHAHA

Bush tricked you once again you dummies!

153 Crusty  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:53:13pm

re: #152 debutaunt

Bush tricked you once again you dummies!

Charles made me kiss Barbra Striesand to get unblocked.

Seriously though I have no knowledge of my blockitude.

154 Hanoch  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:55:49pm

The hardcore leftists were apparently expecting Obama to be completely devoid of common sense and detached from reality, i.e., someone just like them. What a let-down it must be for them to find out otherwise.

155 debutaunt  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:56:31pm

re: #138 Gang of One

Has anyone seen Karl Rove and Obama in the same room at the same time?

Those two blackberry the hell out of each other.

156 Ceemack  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:01:32pm

re: #56 scottishbuzzsaw

Shifting his stance? *bites tongue*


As long as he's not widening it, he should be OK.

157 Ceemack  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:04:37pm

re: #97 father_of_10

Sharmute has a crush on Malkin? Or do you have a crush on Sharmuta?

What red-blooded conservative male doesn't have a crush on Michelle Malkin?

158 DoubleU  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:10:05pm

The more things change the more they stay the same.

159 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:18:10pm

re: #150 Paul

An actual Democratic administration, what a terrifying thought. Imagine
the political offspring of Dennis Kucinich and Hugo Chavez.

Even this recovering democrat shakes in her shoes at the thought of that unholy union. . .

160 LesLein  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:24:26pm

re: #45 maddogg

I'm looking for some redux of The New Deal, mixed up with an updated version of The Great Society. I can hardly effin wait.

Here's what the distinguished liberal historian John Garraty wrote about what ended the Great Depression:

"After war broke in 1939, the Great Depression was swept away on a wave of orders from the beleaguered European democracies. For this prosperity, Roosevelt received much undeserved credit. His New Deal had not returned the country to full employment [not even close -- LesLein.]. It is a truth still ominous for the future that no convincing reply has ever been devised to the argument that modern capitalism cannot flourish without of massive military expenditures."

If his stimulus doesn't work, perhaps Obama can get his overseas friends to invade Poland.

161 Salem  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:39:41pm

re: #153 Crusty

Charles made me kiss Barbra Striesand to get unblocked.

Seriously though I have no knowledge of my blockitude.

When I click on your avatar, it says you're blocked. If no one else is getting this, that's kinda weird.

162 stevieray  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:44:02pm

re: #161 Salem

I see the "this user is blocked" message too.

163 zey  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:48:29pm

sarah palin for energy secretary

164 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:51:49pm

Face it, Liberals. You f*cked up. You trusted him.

165 Pauley  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:52:03pm

I. for one, am shocked and flabbergasted that a politician would not fully deliver fully on each and every talking point uttered on the campaign trail. [/sarcasm]

Actually I think the throngs of worshippers will become more and more disappointed when they realize that the man is human after all.

Stand by for more schadenfreude on this and many other networks.

166 jcbunga  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:54:51pm

re: #153 Crusty

Charles made me kiss Barbra Striesand to get unblocked.

Seriously though I have no knowledge of my blockitude.

If blockitude isn't a word, it should be lol

167 DoubleU  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:55:34pm

re: #164 Noam Sayin'

Face it, Liberals. You f*cked up. You trusted him.

That is true. some people might have voted for McCain but I don't think anyone trusted him.

168 calcajun  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:23:25pm

By God, Iowahamwk was right on this Obama fellow. I do like the cut of his conservative jib, despite the swarthy complexion and all. Any man who can raise a howl from those unwashed hippies who call themselves "Progressive" is surely to the conservative manor born. Let's face it our President-elect may well prove to be a political boon to us of the GOP. ///

169 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:36:08pm

sometimes i am not conservative enough to please some people, but i am right of center. and so far, obama is handling things in a way i approve. we should give him a chance, and if he does well for the country (and not just his party), we should be glad. so far, the far leftists are the only one pissed, which makes me think he may be on the right track.

170 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:54:40pm

No one is left-wing enough for the leftists.

171 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:14:41pm
172 calcajun  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:20:02pm

re: #170 FrogMarch

Hell, they won't be happy unless we all go through re-education camps--or be made to take the courses on-line.

173 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:22:00pm

re: #171 FrogMarch

Ideas for Obama and the leftists.

There is also no doubt that the famine was man-made. Most Soviet peasants resisted the collectivization that began in the 1930s. When joining collective farms was voluntary, few signed up, and many who did soon left. Forcible collectivization was met with peasant rebellions, ruthlessly suppressed, then with quiet resistance. When villagers realized that collective farming meant backbreaking labor for the state at slave wages, many staged work slowdowns. As a result, grain production targets were not met at a time when Moscow relied on grain exports to finance industrialization. The regime then instituted a policy of ruthless confiscation of grain that left no food for the peasants; in many regions, villages that failed to meet the quota were also forced to surrender all other foodstuffs.

Recent articles detailing the Soviet regime's war on the peasantry, based on Soviet archives, describe a living hell: government agents going door to door confiscating food; families in recalcitrant villages forced out of their homes and left to freeze; men and women tortured to make them reveal hidden stockpiles of food; widespread cannibalism. These horrors were by no means limited to Ukraine.

ahhh - collective --properly purged --lefty paradise.

174 cincinnati_kid37  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:22:07pm

I not only love it but saw it coming a mile away.

Do Liberals really believe what people like Obama say while they're campaigning? Apparently.

This is likely to more painful for them than me, which is cool. Though my only real objections to Obama/Democrat rule have been the Supreme Court justices and potential for national health care. I never was worried about some soup to nuts lefty agenda actually playing out. Even with a Dem congress.

Even if it's just Lib judges being replaced by Lib judges, they'll be young enough that they'll be there the rest of our lives. And a Liberal supreme court will take away freedoms faster than you can say what.

Outside of that Obama may do significant damage to the military like Clinton did. No one notices that stuff and the media won't be reporting the massive budget reductions if they in fact happen.

175 larrysheldon  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:33:16pm

How come nobody has mentioned the "Read my lips" thing?

176 DoubleU  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:39:20pm

Because those on the right know politicians lie, those on the left had HOPE that Obama would bring CHANGE to politics.

177 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:41:28pm

re: #172 calcajun

Hell, they won't be happy unless we all go through re-education camps--or be made to take the courses on-line.

Really. tho- Actually - I think they would prefer we were simply purged.

178 LGoPs  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:52:54pm

re: #14 J Doc

Just who are these centrists this guy is talking about. I guess anyone right of McGovern is a centrist.

Agreed. These guys would consider Trotsky a screaming right-winger. Their definitons are totally skewed and if we're not careful we'll be screwed...heh, just made a rhymie...

179 blue_like_jazz  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:56:44pm

one word:


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

180 DoubleU  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:06:50pm

The media considers anyone to the right of Ted Kennedy a centrist, the lefties consider anyone to the right of Stalin a right wing extremist.

181 JenBee  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:19:06pm

It makes you wonder if what Obama has learned since he's been elected President and now has access to top secret intelligence has made him recognize just how dangerous the Left and their ideals are for America...

182 CommonCents  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 9:06:44pm

Just more proof that there was and only will be one Messiah.

183 Joan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 9:10:35pm

re: #6 midwestgak

If he continues to govern from the center, we have dodged a bullet.

I hope that is his true intent, that he will be pragmatic rather than ideological. Just a concern, though, that he may be less an empty suit than we like to think he is. He may be a man who plans to the end, works the plan, bides his time to make the changes as the opportunities realistically present. Hides his intentions, does not make changes all at once but by increments, when the time is right. Is he cunning and far-sighted enough for that kind of approach?

184 Joan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 9:12:13pm

re: #177 FrogMarch

Really. tho- Actually - I think they would prefer we were simply purged.

depressing thought.

185 Joan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 9:12:37pm

re: #184 Joan

depressing thought.

clowns to the left of me jokers to the right... is that his song?

186 Peter Verkooijen  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 9:42:30pm

re: #160 LesLein

Here's what the distinguished liberal historian John Garraty wrote about what ended the Great Depression:

"After war broke in 1939, the Great Depression was swept away on a wave of orders from the beleaguered European democracies. For this prosperity, Roosevelt received much undeserved credit. His New Deal had not returned the country to full employment [not even close -- LesLein.]. It is a truth still ominous for the future that no convincing reply has ever been devised to the argument that modern capitalism cannot flourish without of massive military expenditures." ...

BS. It's the old debate between supply side and demand side economics. Garraty is arguing from a demand side economic perspective, leading him to the wrong conclusions. He has blinders on.

Reagan and Thatcher eventually restored capitalism by stressing the supply side economics, by lowering taxes, making sure there are sufficient incentives to be productive.

Obama is now turning back the clock to failed keynesian recipes to boost demand. Depressingly everybody is going along with it, including many Republicans. Everybody buys into the idea that we have to boost consumer spending, by bailouts, stimulus packages, getting banks to give out yet more loans, etc.

187 rightwinger3  Tue, Dec 9, 2008 3:31:07am

Does this mean I still have to pay for my mortgage and gas?

188 DoubleU  Tue, Dec 9, 2008 5:13:21am

re: #187 rightwinger3

Are you a white male?

189 amateurpundit  Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:34:28am

I just hope Obama is as cynical as he sometimes appears to be. Give me cynicism. Save me from earnest stupidity.

190 rightwinger3  Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:16:36pm

re: #188 DoubleU

Dang. I didn't think about that.

191 LEGION  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 9:21:56pm

re: #164 Noam Sayin'

Face it, Liberals. You f*cked up. You trusted him.

John Belushi to "Flounder" in the garage with the broken car in "National Lampoon's Animal House" You f*cked up- you trusted us!"


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