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And lo, the heavens parted, and there appeared, riding on a white unicorn, the ancestral open thread…

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1 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:22:55pm

What's the topic?

2 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:24:16pm

So what's this I hear about a bith certificate?

3 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:24:26pm

It's a miracle...

4 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:25:45pm

This thread is neither made of thread nor is it used for stitching...talk amongst yourselves...

5 jcm  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:26:29pm

Compo and Sardeshmukh: Oceans a main driver of climate variability - it’s the heat AND the humidity.

Evidence is presented that the recent worldwide land warming has occurred largely in response to a worldwide warming of the oceans rather than as a direct response to increasing greenhouse gases (GHGs) over land. Atmospheric model simulations of the last half-century with prescribed observed ocean temperature changes, but without prescribed GHG changes, account for most of the land warming. The oceanic influence has occurred through hydrodynamic-radiative teleconnections, primarily by moistening and warming the air over land and increasing the downward longwave radiation at the surface. The oceans may themselves have warmed from a combination of natural and anthropogenic influences.
6 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:27:25pm

re: #1 Walter L. Newton

The topic is What's the topic?

Never mind, that could recurse and cause the hamsters to get all befuddled.

7 jcm  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:27:26pm

re: #2 Spare O'Lake

So what's this I hear about a bith certificate?

For pete's sake learn how to spell will you!

It's Nirth Certifikit!

/ ;-P

8 boogberg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:27:26pm

GM stock up 20%. Woohoo! :D

9 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:28:25pm

Koskidz scammed by berries...
BEWARE: Scam perpetrated on lefty blogs

On December 6, someone posted a diary titled, "Today, I found out we have nothing." It was a long sob story that elicited the usual sympathy and offers of help from kind-hearted Kossacks.

Someone in the comments smelled a scam and checked it out. That someone was correct.

But here's the deal: the company that the scam artist diarist was traced back to had a product being advertised on many of the lefty blogs including TalkingPointsMemo, fivethirtyeight, Atrios and the Huffington Post as a weight loss wonder drug. And it was much worse than just trading on the sympathy of generous individuals.
...
I may have made a leap, based on other comments, that linked Popvent to the acai berry scam. If so, I apologize. However, based on the googling skills of smarter Kossacks than me, Popvent appears to be a bit shady.

And the acai berry scam is real.

10 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:28:26pm

re: #8 boogberg

GM stock up 20%. Woohoo! :D

Did it go from $0.20 to $0.24?
///

11 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:28:36pm

re: #6 Shr_Nfr

The topic is What's the topic?

Never mind, that could recurse and cause the hamsters to get all befuddled.

Who's on first?

12 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:29:31pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Koskidz scammed by berries...

To be fair, berries are a bit smarter...

13 boogberg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:29:50pm

re: #10 eschew_obfuscation

Did it go from $0.20 to $0.24?
///

Shame on you, oh ye of little faith! :D

14 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:30:34pm

re: #8 boogberg

GM stock up 20%. Woohoo! :D

What is Ford doing?

15 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:31:15pm

re: #14 CapeCoddah

What is Ford doing?

Wishing Pintos were beans?

16 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:31:23pm

re: #11 Fat Jolly Penguin

Who's on first?

"Who's on First? is a comedy routine made famous by Abbott and Costello. The premise of the routine is that Abbott is identifying the players on a baseball team to Costello, but their names and nicknames can be interpreted as non-responsive answers to Costello's questions. In this context, the first baseman is named "Who"; thus, the utterance "Who's on first" is ambiguous between the question ("which person is the first baseman?") and the answer ("Who is the name of the first baseman.")."

It was more fun before Wiki explained it.

17 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:31:50pm

re: #11 Fat Jolly Penguin

But if the mudders eat all the fodder, there is not going to be any fodders left for fodders day. A&C Racehorse skit.

18 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:31:56pm

Probably. I had one of those, my second car. I do not miss it.

19 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:31:59pm

re: #13 boogberg

Shame on you, oh ye of little faith! :D

I have faith that if we somehow get union pay and benefits in line with what Toyota, Nissan, Honda, etc. are providing, the U.S. makers have a chance. But all this crap about 'green' technology that some in congress are pushing is just another sure way to sink industry for no good reason.

20 boogberg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:32:11pm

re: #14 CapeCoddah

What is Ford doing?

Ford up almost 25%.

21 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:32:12pm

re: #5 jcm

worldwide warming of the oceans

And you know why that is?

Because he rises.

22 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:32:24pm

The topic is: alternative energy sources to help economy, create jobs, and benefit the environment.

23 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:32:31pm

re: #16 Walter L. Newton


It was more fun before Wiki explained it.

Don't look up "copulation", then.

/preserve some of the mystery

24 Salem  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:33:03pm

There are an infinite number of alternate universes, with a mind-boggling number of them springing into existence every instant.

25 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:33:15pm

re: #5 jcm

Compo and Sardeshmukh: Oceans a main driver of climate variability - it’s the heat AND the humidity.

And, why are the oceans heating up? Could it be Al Gore's bigass heater constantly kicking on in his Mansion is causing El Nino, Le Nina and El Guapo? Or, could it have something to do with the big fireball in the sky we see rising in the east and setting in the west each day? Either way, we should tax the crap out of the USA for causing the sun to be so bright!

26 jcm  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:33:24pm

F/A-18 down, pilot ejected.

An F-18 fighter jet pilot ejected from his plane moments before it crashed into a San Diego neighborhood Monday, sparking at least one house fire.

The jet crashed shortly before noon as it prepared to land at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar. The crash occurred two miles from the base, Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor said.

27 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:33:45pm

re: #22 NYCHardhat

The topic is: alternative energy sources to help economy, create jobs, and benefit the environment.

My solution.

28 blue eyed music lover  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:34:06pm

Go ahead, Lou, back up.

29 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:34:29pm

re: #26 jcm

F/A-18 down, pilot ejected.


We seem to lose more fighters in the continental U.S. that in war...

30 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:34:37pm

re: #21 Occasional Reader

And you know why that is?

Because he rises.

[dammit]

... Because he rises.

31 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:35:09pm

re: #30 Occasional Reader

[dammit]

... Because he rises.

Let's leave Rosie outta this.

32 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:35:30pm

re: #27 OldLineTexan

My solution.

We should install a larger unit on top of the Capitol Building in Washington, DC as well

33 picaro  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:35:32pm

re: #20 boogberg

No wonder, with the promise of free money, or easy repayment options - which is the same thing.

34 jcm  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:35:42pm

re: #25 Desert Dog

And, why are the oceans heating up? Could it be Al Gore's bigass heater constantly kicking on in his Mansion is causing El Nino, Le Nina and El Guapo? Or, could it have something to do with the big fireball in the sky we see rising in the east and setting in the west each day? Either way, we should tax the crap out of the USA for causing the sun to be so bright!

It's merely coincidence all the planets warmed up as solar activity peaked, and now that activity is waning and temperatures dropping again is irrelevant.

Pay your carbon indulgences to the Gorelce and be saved!
//

35 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:35:56pm

re: #15 OldLineTexan

Actually fairly well since they probably won't need any of the bailout money if the economy comes back in a couple of years. The Focus gets better mileage than the Camery in either gasoline or hybrid. The are going for one car model one platform worldwide like Honda does with the Civic. They started the restructure before the economy put GM and Chrysler's back against the wall. The new F-150 is a hell of a nice truck too.

36 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:36:29pm

re: #20 boogberg

Ford up almost 25%.

Awesome, thanks.

37 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:36:42pm

re: #29 eschew_obfuscation

We seem to lose more fighters in the continental U.S. that in war...

But, but... even loosing one in war is too many.
/moonbat off

38 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:36:49pm

re: #22 NYCHardhat

The topic is: alternative energy sources to help economy, create jobs, and benefit the environment.

Done.

Next question?

39 DEZes  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:37:31pm

re: #23 OldLineTexan

Don't look up "copulation", then.

/preserve some of the mystery


Beer all over my monitor again.

40 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:37:58pm

re: #33 picaro

With the dilution of the common with warrants that is part of this, its hardly free money.

41 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:38:01pm

re: #35 Shr_Nfr

Actually fairly well since they probably won't need any of the bailout money if the economy comes back in a couple of years. The Focus gets better mileage than the Camery in either gasoline or hybrid. The are going for one car model one platform worldwide like Honda does with the Civic. They started the restructure before the economy put GM and Chrysler's back against the wall. The new F-150 is a hell of a nice truck too.

I agree, but the Focus needs a lot of work. I had a rental, and it was uncomfortable and just cheap.

42 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:38:35pm

re: #27 OldLineTexan

My solution.

High five!
*Borat voice*

43 Blue Eyed Music Lover  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:38:41pm

Now that the LA Times is bankrupt, can the bankruptcy court sell the video of the Palestinian dinner with Obama as an asset to creditors?

44 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:38:55pm

re: #23 OldLineTexan

Don't look up "copulation", then.

/preserve some of the mystery

So that's what it looks like when turtles are bopping.

45 Noodniklel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:39:06pm

This is first time since I hatched that there aren't hundreds of comments discouraging me from posting a thought. It would be nice if comments were listed with newest first. We're newly retired and distressed to watch our hard earned savings evaporate. Our country is going socialist with the bailouts.
Thirty four billion dollars divided by 3 million auto industry jobs comes to 11 million dollars per job. Someone please tell me why any of this makes sense.

46 Soona'  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:39:11pm

re: #18 CapeCoddah

Probably. I had one of those, my second car. I do not miss it.

I had a girlfriend once who drove a Pacer. I would have rather died a fiery death in a Pinto than be seen riding in a Pacer.
/

47 Gang of One  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:39:57pm

re: #23 OldLineTexan

Don't look up "copulation", then.

Isn't that when two police cruisers pull up, driver side/driver side and chat over coffee and donuts?

48 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:40:50pm

re: #47 Gang of One

Isn't that when two police cruisers pull up, driver side/driver side and chat over coffee and donuts?


No...that's "Cop-elation"

49 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:40:50pm

re: #45 Noodniklel

Welcome. Have some karma.

50 albusteve  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:40:55pm

re: #46 Soona'

I had a girlfriend once who drove a Pacer. I would have rather died a fiery death in a Pinto than be seen riding in a Pacer.
/

friend of mine had a Pacer...I dug it...lotsa room and all glass

51 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:41:02pm

re: #38 Occasional Reader

That was demented, so to speak.

52 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:41:22pm

re: #18 CapeCoddah

Probably. I had one of those, my second car. I do not miss it.

I was "assigned" a Pinto as a missionary many years ago. We drove out to Canoncito Navajo reservation. It was 110 degrees. As I was getting out of the car my partner said to roll up the window (I was a greenie). I didn't because it was so hot. We went into the hogan for an hour or so, came back out and there were 2 goats in the car and lots of "pebbles". He said: "I told you to roll up your window!" I said: "You didn't say why!"

The Pinto stunk forever. They all do.

53 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:41:54pm

re: #45 Noodniklel

This is first time since I hatched that there aren't hundreds of comments discouraging me from posting a thought. It would be nice if comments were listed with newest first. We're newly retired and distressed to watch our hard earned savings evaporate. Our country is going socialist with the bailouts.
Thirty four billion dollars divided by 3 million auto industry jobs comes to 11 million dollars per job. Someone please tell me why any of this makes sense.

Well, these are threads, and we like to follow the thoughts on thread in a orderly fashion.

Now maybe you like to watch movie from the end, or start a book at the last chapter, but us more normal folks like to read things in a first to last style.

Your second point doesn't make any sense.

54 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:41:56pm

re: #1 Walter L. Newton

What's the topic?


SNNOOOW!
I know what I'll be doing at 4 am tomm...

55 Jason X  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:42:22pm

Michelle Wie is now a member of the LPGA.

56 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:42:47pm

re: #46 Soona'

I had a girlfriend once who drove a Pacer. I would have rather died a fiery death in a Pinto than be seen riding in a Pacer.
/

LOl, that would have been entirely possible,since they tended to blow up in collisions.

57 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:42:48pm

re: #45 Noodniklel

This is first time since I hatched that there aren't hundreds of comments discouraging me from posting a thought. It would be nice if comments were listed with newest first. We're newly retired and distressed to watch our hard earned savings evaporate. Our country is going socialist with the bailouts.
Thirty four billion dollars divided by 3 million auto industry jobs comes to 11 million dollars per job. Someone please tell me why any of this makes sense.

Lets cure your headache with a shotgun.

58 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:43:21pm

re: #54 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

SNNOOOW!
I know what I'll be doing at 4 am tomm...

WHAT! (I am so worked up waiting for your answer)... g-d, I'm going to have an orgasm.

(I wonder how geared up he would be if it was tornado season?)

59 yochanan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:43:24pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

read this and then become celibate

60 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:43:48pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Koskidz scammed by berries...
BEWARE: Scam perpetrated on lefty blogs



"elicited the usual sympathy and offers of help from kind-hearted Kossacks."

They shoulda known it was a scam right there. That species doesn't exist.

61 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:44:00pm

MPACUK lets the mask slip...
Understanding The Philosophy Of Muslim Violence

We know it will get us in trouble with the media; make us targets for the government elites who want to hide this from you. We are prepared to pay the price. Most Muslim groups in the UK are still silent, or worse apologising, so they can get the 'moderate' medal of dishonour from their masters. We prefer the truth - no matter what they call us.
...

We will no longer be part of the deliberate attempt to keep the public confused on the issue of terrorism. We will not be part of the apologetic Muslim leaders who blame their own community for terrorism. We will not condemn, nor allow ourselves to be condemned by governing elites who are more interested in a political stunt than saving lives. No more politics and propaganda when it comes terrorism - its the truth and nothing else.

That said, if you want to know why Muslims - or any human being - turns to violent ends, then watch this:

62 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:44:09pm

re: #54 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

SNNOOOW!
I know what I'll be doing at 4 am tomm...

Where at?

63 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:44:25pm

re: #45 Noodniklel

This is first time since I hatched that there aren't hundreds of comments discouraging me from posting a thought. It would be nice if comments were listed with newest first. We're newly retired and distressed to watch our hard earned savings evaporate. Our country is going socialist with the bailouts.
Thirty four billion dollars divided by 3 million auto industry jobs comes to 11 million dollars per job. Someone please tell me why any of this makes sense.

I knew it!
Damn, retirement WILL SUCK!

64 wolfie  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:44:33pm

re: #45 Noodniklel

It only makes sense if Power is the name of the game.
And even then, it's getting very weirod.

65 Soona'  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:44:47pm

re: #50 albusteve

friend of mine had a Pacer...I dug it...lotsa room and all glass

But it looked like a swollen testicle.
/

66 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:45:14pm

re: #65 Soona'

But it looked like a swollen testicle.
/

And drove like one!

67 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:45:20pm

re: #65 Soona'

But it looked like a swollen testicle.
/

A pregnant roller skate...

68 boogberg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:45:30pm

re: #45 Noodniklel

This is first time since I hatched that there aren't hundreds of comments discouraging me from posting a thought.

You can always skip to the bottom and post your thought.

69 vxbush  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:45:41pm

re: #65 Soona'

But it looked like a swollen testicle.
/

I had a relative who said it was the best car on the road, period. I think back to those times and I realize just how much of an idiot he was, and had no clue.

70 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:45:42pm

re: #1 Walter L. Newton

What's the topic?

Good day, eh?

71 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:45:44pm

re: #60 Bloodnok

The bleeding hearts at Dkos get scammed all the time. People post hard luck diaries and accept paypal donations there on a regular basis. They're quite gullible.

72 albusteve  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:46:14pm

re: #65 Soona'

But it looked like a swollen testicle.
/

well maybe...all bubbly and roundish like that

73 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:46:25pm

re: #58 Walter L. Newton

Haha!
I'll be clearing walks and entries on five proprties! Yuck!
But It's all good!
Leaving for Palm Springs Wed... am! Wooo Hooo!

74 P. Aaron  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:46:45pm

Once upon a time; to be conservative was the unspoken comportment of the day in popular American society. Nowadays, we find ourselves on the outside looking in. At one time, the hippie-liberals were the ones flinging poo (or worse) upon the walls of the Dean's or some ROTC office.

The liberals, their media, and the government are now The Establishment. Their Establishement is that of pro-goverment ignorance of the constitutional form of government. Gone are their ideals of; "leave me alone man!" The former hippies who now have all the power are coming after the rest of us with: "you can't be trusted with liberty".

Now conservative types are on the outside, with a simple premise: Constitutionally limited government. We have the radical "old" idea of freedom, liberty and self-sustinance. We are on the outside, not really so much wanting to "go-in" (except for maybe Bill Kristol). As wanting the liberals-leftists to come outside and observe how their house looks from the street.

75 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:46:55pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

The bleeding hearts at Dkos get scammed all the time. People post hard luck diaries and accept paypal donations there on a regular basis. They're quite gullible.

That's a damn shame
/

76 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:47:47pm

re: #62 NYCHardhat

Central Utah.
It's snowing in the hills and blowing out of the north!
Chill F^&*ktor of 28dig

77 Soona'  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:48:26pm

re: #66 Walter L. Newton

And drove like one!

re: #67 eschew_obfuscation

A pregnant roller skate...

Yeah!

78 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:48:53pm

re: #70 Spare O'Lake

Good day, eh?

What happened to that news show? I remember when it was on our local PBS station. I use to enjoy all the sports news. And there was a lot of insight on Australian politics.

79 DEZes  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:49:04pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

The bleeding hearts at Dkos get scammed all the time. People post hard luck diaries and accept paypal donations there on a regular basis. They're quite gullible.


That gives me an idea for a stimulus package, brb, hehehe.

80 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:49:19pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

The bleeding hearts at Dkos get scammed all the time. People post hard luck diaries and accept paypal donations there on a regular basis. They're quite gullible.

Do you think I should approach them about scraping a few pennies together to keep the lights on at the Occasional Reader Center for Progressive Social Community Justice?

81 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:50:00pm

I had a girlfriend that drove a Pacer!
Her mothers...It was BRIGHT ORANGE and white!
Stuck out LIKE a swollen testicle!

82 Soona'  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:50:00pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

The bleeding hearts at Dkos get scammed all the time. People post hard luck diaries and accept paypal donations there on a regular basis. They're quite gullible.

Really? Sounds like a business opportunity to me.
/

83 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:50:30pm

Lunchtime Tuesday.

Unicorn sandwiches

84 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:50:40pm

re: #76 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

Central Utah.
It's snowing in the hills and blowing out of the north!
Chill F^&*ktor of 28dig

I was on a tech call with Comcast today, had someone in thier Utah call center, that wasn't you, was it. She told me it was snowing real good.

We're suppose to have 3-16 inches in the Metro area, depending on where you are, further south, more snow.

85 Ben Hur  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:50:43pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Dude, there are 1 Billion Muslims.

Enough of this "oppressed minority" BS.

86 yochanan  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:51:11pm

re: #75 Bloodnok

That's a damn shame
/

well more than likely it is mommy and daddy's gelt. how much money do you make in the basement anyway?

87 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:51:22pm

re: #81 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

I had a girlfriend that drove a Pacer!
Her mothers...It was BRIGHT ORANGE and white!
Stuck out LIKE a swollen testicle!


Clearly a match made in heaven.

I had better add /

88 Ben Hur  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:51:32pm

re: #85 Ben Hur

Dude, there are 1 Billion Muslims.

Enough of this "oppressed minority" BS.


I meant the general "Dude" not YOU DUDE, specifically.

89 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:51:44pm

re: #83 A Kiwi Infidel
Love your intro on your Avie!

90 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:51:51pm

re: #85 Ben Hur

Dude, there are 1 Billion Muslims.

And that's just in the US.

(Source: CAIR)

91 Shay4l  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:51:52pm

I don' see no unicorn :o/

92 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:52:03pm

re: #41 OldLineTexan

Couldn't say as I really know at that level. We are still trying to wear out my wife's 1997 Escort Wagon. Crap car only got 38 mpg going from Boston to Md at 80 mph with 4 adult passengers when we had to go down for my father-in-law's funeral and back in 2 days on short notice. One problem with it, the coil springs. They were made in Korea and are shit brittle steel. Otherwise it just keeps on going.

93 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:52:05pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

I was on a tech call with Comcast today, had someone in thier Utah call center, that wasn't you, was it. She told me it was snowing real good.

We're suppose to have 3-16 inches in the Metro area, depending on where you are, further south, more snow.

I think that's headed our way later, I'm glad the blower on my furnace got fixed, not so happy that it cost almost 600 bucks.

94 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:52:21pm

re: #85 Ben Hur

I'm shocked that they are no longer going to pretend to denounce terrorism. I suspect that post will be taken down soon.

95 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:52:32pm

re: #85 Ben Hur

Dude, there are 1 Billion Muslims.

Enough of this "oppressed minority" BS.


1.3 billion and climbing as rapidly.

96 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:52:47pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

I saw that on the news this am!
Drive/walk careful!

97 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:52:53pm

re: #89 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

Love your intro on your Avie!


Thanks, bro.

98 BBev  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:52:58pm

re: #34 jcm

It's merely coincidence all the planets warmed up as solar activity peaked, and now that activity is waning and temperatures dropping again is irrelevant.

Pay your carbon indulgences to the Gorelce and be saved!
//

Where is Gore, he has been missing for a while.

99 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:52:59pm

re: #93 Thanos

I think that's headed our way later, I'm glad the blower on my furnace got fixed, not so happy that it cost almost 600 bucks.

And your general location in the universe?

100 albusteve  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:53:12pm

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

I was on a tech call with Comcast today, had someone in thier Utah call center, that wasn't you, was it. She told me it was snowing real good.

We're suppose to have 3-16 inches in the Metro area, depending on where you are, further south, more snow.

tis a good thing in the great southwest...Taos was open for skiing a week ago...nice

101 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:53:24pm

re: #91 Shay4l

I don' see no unicorn :o/


Its in my sandwich

102 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:53:32pm

re: #86 yochanan

well more than likely it is mommy and daddy's gelt. how much money do you make in the basement anyway?

No kidding. "Help me Kossacks, I need an urgent advance on my allowance...". They'll understand that one.

103 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:53:40pm

re: #88 Ben Hur

Dude

104 Soona'  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:53:41pm

re: #85 Ben Hur

Dude, there are 1 Billion Muslims.

Enough of this "oppressed minority" BS.

Now, see! There you go again!
/:D

105 boogberg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:53:43pm

re: #45 Noodniklel

Thirty four billion dollars divided by 3 million auto industry jobs comes to 11 million dollars per job.

That doesn't sound right. Check your math.

106 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:53:47pm

BBL

107 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:54:03pm

re: #98 BBev

Where is Gore, he has been missing for a while.

Having his carbon footprint retreaded.

108 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:54:14pm

re: #99 Walter L. Newton

And your general location in the universe?

Would be KC area

109 BBev  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:54:26pm

re: #43 Blue Eyed Music Lover

Now that the LA Times is bankrupt, can the bankruptcy court sell the video of the Palestinian dinner with Obama as an asset to creditors?

Good point

110 Son of the Black Dog  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:54:27pm

re: #54 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

SNNOOOW!
I know what I'll be doing at 4 am tomm...

Quote attributed to Mae West:

"A snowstorm is like making love, you never know how long it's going to last or how many inches you're going to get."

111 DEZes  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:54:51pm

re: #98 BBev

Where is Gore, he has been missing for a while.

To fat to get outa the lounge chair?

112 Athens Runaway  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:54:57pm

Oh wow, it's no birth certificate, but I found the fabled Michelle Obama "Whitey" rant. It's on Youtube.

113 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:54:59pm

re: #99 Walter L. Newton

Earth?

114 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:55:00pm

re: #78 Walter L. Newton

What happened to that news show? I remember when it was on our local PBS station. I use to enjoy all the sports news. And there was a lot of insight on Australian politics.

I wouldn't brag about having PBS, ya hoser. Only broads get that anyway, so take off, eh?

115 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:55:02pm

re: #53 Walter L. Newton

Math score = F. 34,000,000,000/3,000,000 = 11,333

116 J.S.  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:55:02pm

re: #94 Killgore Trout

Really, Killgore...haven't you got the memo yet? They denounce terrorism -- that's the terrorism of the USofKKK all the time...

117 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:55:03pm

A white unicorn? Not a unicorn of color? Nor a rainbow unicorn?
Your mythical racism is showing.

118 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:56:29pm

re: #114 Spare O'Lake

I wouldn't brag about having PBS, ya hoser. Only broads get that anyway, so take off, eh?

Ahh... Strange Brew!
That was a funny!

119 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:56:41pm

re: #108 Thanos

Would be KC area

Kuebec, Canada?

120 vxbush  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:56:42pm

re: #115 Shr_Nfr

Math score = F. 34,000,000,000/3,000,000 = 11,333

Yes, but that's only how much the union worker gets. The rest of it goes to the union itself.
/new union math

121 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:57:08pm

re: #112 Athens Runaway

API is still pretending its going to air her Phone call. Oh well.

122 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:58:12pm

re: #95 A Kiwi Infidel

Damn, have them hold the camel's head still.

123 Athens Runaway  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:58:17pm

re: #121 Shr_Nfr

I insist it's true. See my halo?

124 Soona'  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:58:51pm

re: #93 Thanos

I think that's headed our way later, I'm glad the blower on my furnace got fixed, not so happy that it cost almost 600 bucks.

Last year I had to replace a blower switch on my heating unit. When the repairman was finished, he gave me a written bill with large handwriting where the cost of services was entered: "blow-job -- $350.00".

125 Ben Hur  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:58:56pm

re: #112 Athens Runaway

Oh wow, it's no birth certificate, but I found the fabled Michelle Obama "Whitey" rant. It's on Youtube.


You got me.

Dammit!@

126 Noodniklel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:59:13pm

re #115
I googled and it said a billion has twice as many zeros as a million.

127 Athens Runaway  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 2:59:55pm

re: #125 Ben Hur

BarackRoll'd!

My juvenile sense of humor has been sated for now.

128 Shug  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:00:12pm

certificate nirth
it shows there was virgin birth
the second on earth !

129 vxbush  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:00:45pm

Okay, normally I'd be heading home or be at home by now, but this being The Evil Week™ I'm still stuck in the office. And LGF is just not up to standard right now! We need more postage!

130 The Hoopster  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:01:11pm

re: #124 Soona'

Last year I had to replace a blower switch on my heating unit. When the repairman was finished, he gave me a written bill with large handwriting where the cost of services was entered: "blow-job -- $350.00".

Unless you are Hugh Grant..That's a little pricey isn't it?

131 JCM  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:01:50pm

re: #117 IslandLibertarian

A white unicorn? Not a unicorn of color? Nor a rainbow unicorn?
Your mythical racism is showing.

It's a rainbow unicorn with strawberry farts...

132 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:01:52pm

re: #130 HoosierHoops

Unless you are Hugh Grant..That's a little pricey isn't it?

Well, not if you were huge.

133 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:02:34pm

re: #129 vxbush

I'll try not to take that personally!

A moment please...
...
Oops...Didn't work!

134 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:02:49pm

re: #129 vxbush

Okay, normally I'd be heading home or be at home by now, but this being The Evil Week™ I'm still stuck in the office. And LGF is just not up to standard right now! We need more postage!

At least you have a full time job. In tech no less. You must be a young'un.

135 boogberg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:03:08pm

re: #126 Noodniklel

re #115
I googled and it said a billion has twice as many zeros as a million.

It does.

136 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:03:14pm

No link yet but KCAL9 reporting that two people on the ground were killed by the F-18 crash.

Tragic.

137 Soona'  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:03:31pm

re: #130 HoosierHoops

Unless you are Hugh Grant..That's a little pricey isn't it?

I have an old unit.
/:D

138 JCM  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:04:04pm

re: #126 Noodniklel

re #115
I googled and it said a billion has twice as many zeros as a million.

yotta [Y] 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 = 10^24
zetta [Z] 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 = 10^21
exa [E] 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 = 10^18
peta [P] = 10^15
tera [T] 1 000 000 000 000 = 10^12
giga [G] 1 000 000 000 (a thousand millions = a billion)
mega [M] 1 000 000 (a million)
kilo [k] 1 000 (a thousand)
hecto [h] 100 (a hundred)
deca [da]10 (ten)

139 vxbush  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:04:07pm

re: #134 Walter L. Newton

At least you have a full time job. In tech no less. You must be a young'un.

Is 43 considered young? Not where I come from...

140 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:04:38pm
141 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:04:42pm

re: #139 vxbush

Is 43 considered young? Not where I come from...


43?
You're a baby.

142 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:04:57pm

re: #124 Soona'

Sounds like somebodies getting %$^&* by the service company!
I'm really out of the loop on furnace work$$ I do all my own!

143 debutaunt  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:05:07pm

re: #16 Walter L. Newton

"Who's on First? is a comedy routine made famous by Abbott and Costello. The premise of the routine is that Abbott is identifying the players on a baseball team to Costello, but their names and nicknames can be interpreted as non-responsive answers to Costello's questions. In this context, the first baseman is named "Who"; thus, the utterance "Who's on first" is ambiguous between the question ("which person is the first baseman?") and the answer ("Who is the name of the first baseman.")."

It was more fun before Wiki explained it.

Naturally.

144 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:05:38pm

Yea, snowing in Golden, Colorado. Going down to 18 degrees tonight. Cuddle weather.

Thanos

Headed your way.

145 boogberg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:05:59pm

Oops, no it doesn't.

146 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:06:26pm

re: #112 Athens Runaway

Ugh, and not even a good rickroll. :p

/general principle down ding, nothing personal.

147 Soona'  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:06:49pm

re: #142 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

Sounds like somebodies getting %$^&* by the service company!
I'm really out of the loop on furnace work$$ I do all my own!

Well la dee da!
/

148 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:06:56pm

re: #139 vxbush

Is 43 considered young? Not where I come from...

I'm 56 on Dec. 24, I haven't been able to get full time programming work in 5 years. That's why I work at a live theatre (for 1/4 as much money as I use to make).

149 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:07:27pm

Two dead, two more reported missing:

[Link: cbs2.com...]

150 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:07:28pm

re: #135 boogberg

It does.

Yep, that is so obvious.
A million has 5 and a billion has 10.

151 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:07:30pm

re: #147 Soona'

Sorry!

152 Athens Runaway  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:08:22pm

re: #146 BlueCanuck

Understood :). With all these conspiracies a-floating around, it's good to remember one thing: Rick will never let you down. And that's the truth.

153 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:08:35pm

re: #149 Pvt Bin Jammin

Linky no worky!

154 vxbush  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:08:55pm

re: #148 Walter L. Newton

I'm 56 on Dec. 24, I haven't been able to get full time programming work in 5 years. That's why I work at a live theatre (for 1/4 as much money as I use to make).

I'm sorry to hear that. But I've done more than just computer work: technical writing, technical support (of which I do a lot now), open source software, lab administration/maintenance, and a tiny bit of programming on the side. It's a good fit for where I am now.

155 DEZes  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:08:55pm

re: #16 Walter L. Newton

It was more fun before Wiki explained it.

“We have not the reverent feeling for the rainbow that a savage has, because we know how it is made. We have lost as much as we gained by prying into that matter.”

Mark Twain

156 JCM  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:09:15pm

A STORY FROM IRAQ

I received an email from a friend and co-worker who is stationed at one of the smaller outlying FOB's (Forward Operating Base)in the North about something that happened out there that is, in my opinion, newsworthy.

Some local Iraqi's shot a boar in town. Now normally when a boar is shot the carcass is just discarded as rubbish due to religious belief about pork products. Sometimes these carcasses end up the hiding spot for IED's. Neither of these things happened this time. Instead, the Iraqi's gave the boar to the soldiers at this FOB for them to roast. This is a huge gesture in part by the Iraq's to the US Military. The Iraq's did not have to do this at all, but wanted to as they heard that our troops at this outlying FOB do not have the greatest of food available to them. They do not have a contracted chow hall like the bigger bases in Iraq do, so they don't have nearly the selection or the preparation facilities that you see at the larger basses (baked beans are a staple out there from what I am told). Another thing that this story shows is the spirit of giving. The local Iraqi's had no reason to give this boar to these soldiers, but saw that they could use it and gave it to them as a kind gesture and to say thank you for staying and giving them (the Iraq's) a chance for a future.

Now if that is not an inspiring Christmas Story I don't know what is.


TrueSoldier has an LGF nic, but I don't recall what it is he might not have posted since his deployment.

157 JumpLandPackRepeat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:09:43pm

re: #130 HoosierHoops

Unless you are Hugh Grant..That's a little pricey isn't it?

Inflation

158 vxbush  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:09:50pm

re: #154 vxbush

I'm sorry to hear that. But I've done more than just computer work: technical writing, technical support (of which I do a lot now), open source software, lab administration/maintenance, and a tiny bit of programming on the side. It's a good fit for where I am now.

Oh, and I forgot editing, both in the computer and mathematics fields...

159 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:10:41pm

re: #153 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

Trying again:
[Link: cbs2.com...]

160 JCM  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:10:48pm

re: #157 JumpLandPackRepeat

Inflation

Hmmm, no blue pills no inflation...
Maybe a new economic policy...

161 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:11:16pm

re: #144 Walter L. Newton

Yea, snowing in Golden, Colorado. Going down to 18 degrees tonight. Cuddle weather.

Thanos

Headed your way.

Cuddles or the weather Walter ? :)

162 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:11:37pm

re: #141 reine.de.tout

43?
You're a baby.

Then I'm a zygote.

163 boogberg  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:11:40pm

re: #150 Spare O'Lake

Yep, that is so obvious.
A million has 5 and a billion has 10.

No, I screwed up. A million has 6 and a billion has 9.

A TRILLION has twice as many zeros as a million. A trillion has 12 zeros.

164 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:12:47pm

re: #161 Thanos

Cuddles or the weather Walter ? :)

Well, if you are a male, a hearty hug. If you are a woman, a full out, pull ya into me, hold you tight cuddle.

And by the way, the storm is head your way.

165 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:12:50pm

re: #159 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thanks!

166 Noodniklel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:13:28pm

re #115 and #135
The one who gave me an F in math had only 9 zeros instead of 12, making my 11 million not so wrong.
Also thanks to the kind welcomes.
And I don't know how to respond to the one that mentioned I needed a shotgun cure for my headache. I didn't even claim to have a headache, but if I did, that shotgun comment seemed hostile.

167 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:14:19pm

re: #165 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY

You're very welcome.

168 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:14:38pm

re: #166 Noodniklel
I thought so too!
And Welcome ...leave the gun right there...!

169 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:14:53pm

re: #164 Walter L. Newton

Well, if you are a male, a hearty hug. If you are a woman, a full out, pull ya into me, hold you tight cuddle.

And by the way, the storm is head your way.

Ok a manhug! Yeah, we were going to wait till Wednesday for the blower until we saw the weather coming in.

170 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:17:20pm

re: #155 DEZes

“We have not the reverent feeling for the rainbow that a savage has, because we know how it is made. We have lost as much as we gained by prying into that matter.”
Mark Twain

Mark Twain probably didn't believe that the rainbow was the sign of the circumcision covenant between God and Abraham. Because that feeling would, I suspect, be far more "reverent" than whatever feeling a savage might have had.
/

171 stevieray  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:20:31pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

The bleeding hearts at Dkos get scammed all the time. People post hard luck diaries and accept paypal donations there on a regular basis. They're quite gullible.

That comes from spending years culturing "non-judgmentalism"... eventually your instincts atrophy, shrinking into a mental version of the appendix -- vestigial and useless.

172 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:21:22pm
173 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:22:27pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Koskidz scammed by berries...
BEWARE: Scam perpetrated on lefty blogs

Another scam, fake websites claiming to collect funds for the Mumbai victims.

This is the official Mumbai Chabad donation site.

If you get an email for Indiachabad.com it is a FAKE site.

174 debutaunt  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:23:42pm

re: #164 Walter L. Newton

Well, if you are a male, a hearty hug. If you are a woman, a full out, pull ya into me, hold you tight cuddle.

And by the way, the storm is head your way.

***Vapors***

175 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:25:30pm

re: #170 Spare O'Lake

Mark Twain probably didn't believe that the rainbow was the sign of the circumcision covenant between God and Abraham. Because that feeling would, I suspect, be far more "reverent" than whatever feeling a savage might have had.
/

The rainbow is not the sign of the covenant between G-D and Abraham, it is the sign of the covenant between G-D and Noah.

176 GeeWiz  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:30:01pm

To continue from the previous thread:

Sweet Talking Woman

177 GeeWiz  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:32:04pm

DAMN! Always a day late and a dollar short, stuck on a dead thread once again.

178 Noodniklel  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:36:56pm

#168
Thank you for your kind welcome.

179 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:40:27pm

re: #172 buzzsawmonkey

Sorry to bust your bubble, but the rainbow has nothing to do with the covenant of circucision. It is to indicate that G-d will not again destroy the earth by flood; as the spiritual says, "God gave Noah the rainbow sign; won't be the water, be the fire next time."

Circumcision is its own sign.

Boy did I screw that one up! Thanks for correcting.

180 Pietr  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:40:41pm

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Has this already been posted? If not, for your edification-there is no way I mention one(st)...(as in change one to 1)...been downdinged enough today. Cheers.

181 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:41:11pm

re: #175 Alouette

The rainbow is not the sign of the covenant between G-D and Abraham, it is the sign of the covenant between G-D and Noah.

Yup, I screwed it up royally! Thanks for correcting.

182 wiffersnapper  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:41:43pm

science damn you!

183 DEZes  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:42:15pm

re: #179 Spare O'Lake

You know you had me wondering, WTF?

184 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 3:43:11pm
185 Bob Dillon  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:04:10pm

re: #159 Pvt Bin Jammin

Trying again:
[Link: cbs2.com...]

Damn!

186 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:12:13pm

re: #183 DEZes

You know you had me wondering, WTF?

I think the cantor subbed for the regular teacher that day - need I say more?

187 Yashmak  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:18:12pm

Is this open thread about Neil Patrick Harris?

188 No. Just, no.  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:33:48pm

This link, which is sadly not a rickroll or any such hilarity, is on an Earnest Subject. I would title it: Why I am voting for my county Sheriff again in the next election. We actually got this in the mail. Nice to know he understand the phrase "servant of the people."

[Link: www.co.washington.or.us...]

189 WoodstockDave  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 4:42:31pm

I knew this country was finished when I learned about this government coupon program for the set top boxes needed after the digital changeover. It just screams "LOSERS!" on so many levels...

190 Shay4l  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:19:18pm

re: #189 WoodstockDave

I knew this country was finished when I learned about this government coupon program for the set top boxes needed after the digital changeover. It just screams "LOSERS!" on so many levels...

My 76 year old MIL doesn't want to pay for cable. She's on fixed income on a tight edge. My wife and I offered strenuously to provide her cable TV and she refused. If you knew her, you'd understand why we finally gave up.

191 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:23:12pm
192 6pat6  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:24:37pm

re: #189 WoodstockDave

The reason that the switch is happening is not because of any desire for the gub'mint for the masses to have clearer reception or anything...the FCC is taking the frequency spectrum that currently is your analog TV audio and video and they will auction portions of this frequency spectrum to cell phone companies for voice and data transmission. The gub'mint will make several billion dollars from this.

193 6pat6  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:25:55pm
194 rolus  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 5:26:03pm

I don't know where to post this, but I am very upset about bailing out the WORST run companies on the planet. I WILL NEVER BUY AN AMERICAN CAR EVER EVER.

Go ahead and BAIL out these LOSERS! Let the companies go broke. I don't want people to suffer, but bailing out these people, giving idle union workers 95% of their salaries to DO NOTHING all day seems STUPID.

Just had to get that off of may chest.

195 winston06  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:03:18pm

good afternoon to every one

196 WoodstockDave  Mon, Dec 8, 2008 6:10:42pm

Another sign that we're finished as a country:

Saw Nancy Pelosi on TV this evening saying that the bailout was going to make car companies "accountable to the taxpayer". Remember when companies were accountable to shareholders?


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 Frank says:

Interviewer:
The notion of a "guitar solo" has preconceptions based on it; people automatically refute it because it's supposed to be self-indulgent or "for musicians." It's almost like things become iconographic and somehow lose their value for outsiders.

Zappa:
Well, whose fault is that? That's what writers do. Musicians don't do that. The average person doesn't sit around thinking about the "iconographic problems of a guitar solo." -- Interview for Musician magazine, by Matt Resnicoff, November 1991. Reprinted in July 1995 Issue.