LFG is on the map

Imagine that!

but I can’t imagine that either blog would ever allow this type of open debate.

Well, you could try, you know, reading LGF, Pat.

Clearly he's never been to an evolution/ID thread.

Let's debate it Trig is Sarah's child. PERIOD.

LGF is imaginationland!

Patrick Appel: Moron, idiot or asshole? Discuss.

The concept of "open debate" is an extremely relative concept to these folks.

I guess, civil, intelligent, rational with doses of sarcasm, humor and an occasional *whack* doesn't count as debate.

Patrick Appel has slipped off his turtle.

I bet the have good hash over at the dirty dish...

Digital is not the same thing as imaginary. Heh.

I wonder what happens to these people when Bush finally leaves office and their common thread disintegrates.

Uninformed tool

re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Patrick Appel: Moron, idiot or asshole? Discuss.

MIA?

re: #12 Bumr50

I wonder what happens to these people when Bush finally leaves office and their common thread disintegrates.

They will find another scapegoat. Count on it.

Patrick Appel imagines that he reads LGF?

re: #10 experiencedtraveller

Anything to support the terrorists, eh?

re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Patrick Appel: Moron, idiot or asshole? Discuss.

Can I choose smug asshole? Here Charles gives him some positive exposure and he can't accept the compliment without taking a swipe at LGF, based on nothing more than fantasy.

he 'often select Dissents Of The Day for Andrew to keep him honest'

Good thing we don't have to select Dissents to keep out host honest, he's already as straight as they come.

"Open debate?"

Post-modernists gone wild.

Let's have an "open debate" about how Israel and Halliburton blew up the towers...brah.

Actually, Trig is MY child and Sarah is a fembot in the New World Order cabal of which I am merely a puppet of George Soros and Maurice Strong. Sheesh, some days I don't even know which one of them has his hand up my ass, but what the hey...

Wrap you tiny little mind around THAT, Appel.

"Captain,...we're being hailed by the enemy ship."

re: #12 Bumr50

I wonder what happens to these people when Bush finally leaves office and their common thread disintegrates.

They will turn on each other. Right after their Kumbaya moment.

I call your open debate and raise you 2 Trotskys.

Patrick Appel,
If you ever actually visited this site, you'd know that debate is alive and well here. Heck, the ID issue alone has generated more variety of opinion than I've ever seen from the Daily Dish. But I suppose that after contradicting a big dog liberal, you probably need to calm your readership by bashing LGF and Malkin. It's ok, we understand.

re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Patrick Appel: Moron working toward, idiot or already asshole? Discuss.

Already an asshole. . .

No wonder they block comments at their silly blog

re: #19 2by2

he's already as straight as they come.

No wonder Sullivan and his buddies doesnt like him.

/

Blago looks like Gary Condit.

re: #8 Bumr50

The concept of "open debate" is an extremely relative concept to these folks.

I think it's not...c'mon,...put 'em up!

I wonder sometimes what these people think happens in the third world. The poor in the third world wonder where/hope where their next meal and safe place to sleep tonight will be. Are their children safe and will they have a job tomorrow. These asshat sit in their cushy homes and drink the cool aid and come up with this shit. Fuck them I have better more important things to deal with.

Writing and posting stuff without reading. What a novel concept. /

I guess he missed the several thousand plus comment threads with opposing views on everything from terrorism, Islamism, Gay Marriage, Nirth certs, Creationism, Eurofascism, DKOS delusions, the financial situation, reform of the Republican party, etc. etc. etc.

The honest truth is that the Daily dish would kill for the debate traffic Charles gets here.

debating every topic under the sun from every viewpoint

Wait a minute... I thought *everyone* here was an atheist Democrat conservative?!

/

re: #32 lawhawk

Writing and posting stuff without reading. What a novel concept. /

Voting for President without knowing him.

This is all par for the course.

I've always wondered if people like Appel actually read the sites they slam. It wouldn't scare me if they are just repeating 'what everyone knows', but if they read stuff here and STILL come to that kind of conclusion...

Well, you can't fix stupid.

re: #31 Erik The Red

I wonder sometimes what these people think happens in the third world. The poor in the third world wonder where/hope where their next meal and safe place to sleep tonight will be. Are their children safe and will they have a job tomorrow. These asshat sit in their cushy homes and drink the cool aid and come up with this shit. Fuck them I have better more important things to deal with.

Yep, like the leaky flapper valve in the toilet...

re: #22 hermit

"Captain,...we're being hailed by the enemy ship."

"Start talking, keep them busy. Tell the Marines to man the boarding torpedoes."

Appel's just trying to save face now that he's in the middle of the hornet's nest.

I think he has a secret LGF addiction-i.e. a closet LGF'er

re: #9 jcm

I guess, civil, intelligent, rational with doses of sarcasm, humor and an occasional *whack* doesn't count as debate.

Patrick Appel has slipped off his turtle.

Would that be the legendary "post turtle"?

re: #22 hermit

"Captain,...we're being hailed by the enemy ship."

Shields up. Charge weapons.

re: #15 midwestgak

It is, quite honestly, this intense focus that won them the last election. The "problem" with the right is that we have principles that we won't sacrifice under ANY circumstances.
Although they'll find another scapegoat, it's a good bet that it won't be nearly as powerful as the Anti-Bush mantra.
Although the anti-"Wall Street",anti-"executive", and generally anti-capitalist message is gaining alarming momentum in the entertainment industry (the post-modern political arena.)

This has less to do about LGF and Michelle M than it does him trying to get back on the left's bus.

re: #36 Van Helsing

I've always wondered if people like Appel actually read the sites they slam. It wouldn't scare me if they are just repeating 'what everyone knows', but if they read stuff here and STILL come to that kind of conclusion...

Well, you can't fix stupid.

Reading is so... mentally challenging!

re: #43 Ben Hur

This has less to do about LGF and Michelle M than it does him trying to get back on the left's bus.

Egggs actly.

re: #41 Occasional Reader

"Is this thing on...?"

re: #37 maddogg

Yep, like the leaky flapper valve in the toilet...

Or how I can buy over my limit of ammo for the month/year.

re: #39 gman

I think he has a secret LGF addiction-i.e. a closet LGF'er

Well, today is "call in lizardoid day".

re: #27 winston06

No wonder they block comments at their silly blog

A blog with no comments is just a ...website isn't it?

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Start talking, keep them busy. Tell the Marines to man the boarding torpedoes."

Fire Torpedo number one!
Torpedo number one! You're fired!

re: #47 Erik The Red

Or how I can buy over my limit of ammo for the month/year.

You must be married...

re: #45 Yashmak

"WWAAAIITT...I still pay way too much for coffee! I drive a Prius! Waaiittt..."

I'm just amazed at how wrong the perception of LGF is by lefties. While Charles runs a tight ship and has no tolerance for idiots, there's always a wide range of viewpoints discussed. In fact, I find lefty blogs like DU and Daily Kos far more restrictive and virulent than LGF. Hell, DU will ban and delete anyone who isn't a Democrat and/or liberal! Yet the left always pats itself on the back for it's "tolerance" and "diversity" while slimming LGF and other right wing blogs as intolerant. Can you say "projection?"

Clearly, they don't come here much, if at all. Kinda like all those people who say Rush Limbaugh is this or that but then admit they never hear his radio show. It's what they've "heard."

re: #48 Occasional Reader

You need Preparation-L.

re: #17 Bumr50

Anything to support the terrorists, eh?

Poor, uneducated and non-unionized opium producers are a future (D) voting bloc...

re: #25 Yashmak

Patrick Appel,
If you ever actually visited this site, you'd know that debate is alive and well here. Heck, the ID issue alone has generated more variety of opinion than I've ever seen from the Daily Dish. But I suppose that after contradicting a big dog liberal, you probably need to calm your readership by bashing LGF and Malkin. It's ok, we understand.

I may have missed a memo- when I was in debate club in high school- teams were required to supply factual, peer reviewed data or other scholarly work to support the stated position. . .

A debate then, would appear to require a certain body of factual basis in order to be defined as one.

With this ridiculous assertion that Trig Palin is not Sarah's child-

1. Her daughter could not have given birth to him- the gestational age of her own fetus rules that out

2. No other theory has been presented to supplant the discredited position above

SO- unless he is willing to supply a factual alternative theory- he is without grounds for a debate, and instead is stuck on fallacy with a side of lunatic fringe!

Stormfront thinks we're Kos and Kos thinks we're Stormfront.

re: #53 Land Shark

That's why you never really see quotes from most right-wing sites, just vicious attacks on them.

All we have to do is quote the lefties.

Some of these blogs remind me of my fraternity days:

"Those guys suck"
"Have you been in their House - it's pretty cool."
"No, but my bud says they suck."

When all the extremist morons hate you, you are pretty much in the right place, I figger...

re: #57 Ben Hur

Stormfront thinks we're Kos and Kos thinks we're Stormfront.

Conversely, I think both are assholes.

re: #36 Van Helsing

I've always wondered if people like Appel actually read the sites they slam. It wouldn't scare me if they are just repeating 'what everyone knows', but if they read stuff here and STILL come to that kind of conclusion...

Well, you can't fix stupid.

If they did read the sites, they would have to not post what they do if they had any integrity. . .see for most people, I think, integrity is pretty darn important. . .not so much media types. . .well, the ones that get the press. . .

re: #51 maddogg

You must be married...

Nothing to do with the Mrs. Live in S.Africa and we have a restriction on the amount of ammo we can have per firearm. Don't ask me what it is. All I know is I'm in shit/jail if I get inspected. I'm trying to work out how I can get this Stateside when I return next year.

re: #41 Occasional Reader

Shields up. Charge weapons.

"Sir, I've charged the weapons, but they're asking for separate bills. What should we do?"

re: #50 hermit

Fire Torpedo number one!

I've already get my standard (if heterodox) fire control orders all worked out, if I'm ever given a command by Starfleet: "Fire all our weapons at them, as rapidly as possible, until they either blow up or surrender". None of this "fire phasers... once... and then let's see how they react" crap.

I imagine a world full of peace, love, and fluffy bunnies... and then I watch "Fatal Attraction".

re: #57 Ben Hur

Stormfront thinks we're Kos and Kos thinks we're Stormfront.

I read Kos, it is why I feel I can reject them and those that read/post, also Huffpo I read- I simply have to see it for myself. . .and remain in awe of the sheer amount of hate, lies and crap on these tolerant left sites. . .

re: #60 maddogg

When all the extremist morons hate you, you are pretty much in the right place, I figger...

"You can never have too many enemies. The more you’ve got, the more likely they are to get in each other’s way."

re: #63 Erik The Red

Nothing to do with the Mrs. Live in S.Africa and we have a restriction on the amount of ammo we can have per firearm. Don't ask me what it is. All I know is I'm in shit/jail if I get inspected. I'm trying to work out how I can get this Stateside when I return next year.

I see. Best not to discuss it.

Rather makes everything else that Appel says suspect, doesn't it?

re: #66 MrSilverDragon

I imagine a world full of peace, love, and fluffyboiled bunnies... and then I watch "Fatal Attraction".

Eeeek

re: #57 Ben Hur

Que? Stormfront sounds like a hair-metal band. I'm not even gonna bother looking.

re: #63 Erik The Red

I'm trying to work out how I can get this Stateside when I return next year.

I think you're probably SOL on that.

Might as well plan your jamboree(s) at the range now, and plan to restock once stateside.

re: #72 Bumr50

Que? Stormfront sounds like a hair-metal band. I'm not even gonna bother looking.

Yeah, do not, I cannot take it. . .

re: #47 Erik The Red

Or how I can buy over my limit of ammo for the month/year.

There's a limit? Nobody told me there was a limit!

Other than my rapidly shrinking credit lines.

re: #65 Occasional Reader

None of this "fire phasers... once... and then let's see how they react" crap.

Victory does improve the chances of peaceful resolution...

So-called progressives do not like being challenged. True liberals (my distinction) enjoy debating the issues and let truth determine the outcome. Of course, it's a choice of the words you want to use, but I was raised on the classical definition of liberal being someone who considered all sides before drawing a conclusion.

I don't believe there are many "traditional liberals" in the so-called liberal/progressive camp, these days. Including Mr. Appel.

re: #41 Occasional Reader

Shields up. Charge weapons.

On screen.

My wife is my limiting factor on ammo. When it gets stacked in piles on the floor due to lack of storage space, she thinks thats too much. She is woefully mistaken.

Fortune Fail

Obviously a product of the Sum Dum Goy fortune cookie factory.

(name that movie!)

re: #72 Bumr50

Que? Stormfront sounds like a hair-metal band. I'm not even gonna bother looking.

It's a white supremacist/neo-Nazi site. Which enthusiastically endorsed Cindy Sheehan's "the Jews control the US government!" position, among other things. Ah, "progressive" politics, gotta love 'em.

re: #57 Ben Hur

Stormfront thinks we're Kos and Kos thinks we're Stormfront.

Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right.

re: #73 Occasional Reader

I think you're probably SOL on that.

Might as well plan your jamboree(s) at the range now, and plan to restock once stateside.

Yeah I know. Have a few buddies who will kill for it. Maybe see who throws me the biggest going away party and give the lot to him. Could stay drunk for a few weeks for free. Will be bringing the hard wear though. Come hell or high water.

re: #65 Occasional Reader

I've already get my standard (if heterodox) fire control orders all worked out, if I'm ever given a command by Starfleet: "Fire all our weapons at them, as rapidly as possible, until they either blow up or surrender". None of this "fire phasers... once... and then let's see how they react" crap.

I'd be: "Get these people out of my Space."

re: #60 maddogg

When all the extremist morons hate you, you are pretty much in the right place, I figger...

um,...maddog,...*cough* I think we're supposed to say "Fegro" or Cognitive American. Just saying, dude.
/ducks back into cave [smoke puff]

re: #83 Erik The Red

Will be bringing the hard wear though.

That's a lot easier than the ammo. Just remember to declare it... check the airline's rules, etc.

But sir!

I'm a Klingon!

(Believe me, I do a perfect Warf immitation in person)

re: #80 Ben Hur

Fortune Fail

Obviously a product of the Sum Dum Goy fortune cookie factory.

(name that movie!)

"What's Up Tiger Lilly? " (guess)

re: #77 Golem Akbar

But it's so much easier when you don't have to listen to opposing viewpoints! This is the generation that gets grades based on effort, thinks that living comfortably is a right provided by ones government and was taught that global warming was caused by people older than them.

It is truly mind boggling that these idiots pluck out a word/phrase from an entire thread and run to the left spewing a twisted version of the truth. The tune from The Wizard of Oz comes to mind...If I only had a brain!

re: #56 DisturbedEma

I may have missed a memo- when I was in debate club in high school- teams were required to supply factual, peer reviewed data or other scholarly work to support the stated position. . .

A debate then, would appear to require a certain body of factual basis in order to be defined as one.

With this ridiculous assertion that Trig Palin is not Sarah's child-

1. Her daughter could not have given birth to him- the gestational age of her own fetus rules that out

2. No other theory has been presented to supplant the discredited position above

SO- unless he is willing to supply a factual alternative theory- he is without grounds for a debate, and instead is stuck on fallacy with a side of lunatic fringe!

Sure. Like 'logic' and 'reasoning' and 'facts' mean anything.
Logic and reason and facts, oh my!

I don't KSM saying 'I did it' will shut up the #�@$%@%$ Troofers, will it?

re: #87 Ben Hur

I do a perfect Warf immitation in person

You allow lots of sailors to begin their shore leave on you?

/rimshot

re: #86 Occasional Reader

That's a lot easier than the ammo. Just remember to declare it... check the airline's rules, etc.

Have already. Will get shipped in a 40 container with the rest of our house hold goods. Not to sure what to do once I get to Florida. Do I need to tell the police?

Lunch.

What liberals don't understand is that there's no good reason for debating insanity. Pointing it out is the best you can do.

re: #91 Van Helsing

Sure. Like 'logic' and 'reasoning' and 'facts' mean anything.
Logic and reason and facts, oh my!

I don't KSM saying 'I did it' will shut up the #&#@$%@%$ Troofers, will it?

This is not the debate I knew? Debate now means who can scream the loudest and who the MSM is supporting. . .

But, of course, the lefties would think me a gun toting right wing extremist, but I don't actually care what morons think.

re: #67 DisturbedEma

I read Kos, it is why I feel I can reject them and those that read/post, also Huffpo I read- I simply have to see it for myself. . .and remain in awe of the sheer amount of hate, lies and crap on these tolerant left sites. . .

I live in Los Angeles, the home of the lazy left. I'm surrounded by Kossies and Puffies. I'd rather read about them than to have to live with them, but...oh well.

re: #92 Occasional Reader

You allow lots of sailors to begin their shore leave on you?

/rimshot

lol

re: #87 Ben Hur

That would be "Worf".

re: #93 Erik The Red

Not to sure what to do once I get to Florida. Do I need to tell the police?

NRA has a page on their site that briefs you on all the state laws, and what to do when transferring a firearm into a particular state... you can google around and find it. Florida should be pretty cool on the subject, I think.

re: #87 Ben Hur

But sir!

I'm a Klingon!

(Believe me, I do a perfect Warf immitation in person)

"I'm not a merry man!"

Now, lunch.

re: #80 Ben Hur

Oh my gosh, did you see the one before that?

re: #98 Golem Akbar

I live in Los Angeles, the home of the lazy left. I'm surrounded by Kossies and Puffies. I'd rather read about them than to have to live with them, but...oh well.

I am, for a few more days, a teacher in ChiHellgo. . .yeah, so get your point. . .

LGF and Michelle Malkin are gleeful because I called Andrew out over the Palin baby rumors, but I can’t imagine that either blog would ever allow this type of open debate.

If by "this type" he means a free debate of opposing viewpoints, then he is clearly wrong. But if he means a debate about whether a sitting state Governor actually had a fake pregnancy to cover for that of a teenage child despite all facts, evidence, attending doctor testimony, and ON THE SCENE MEDIA COVERAGE to the contrary, then yes - LGF would not have that type of debate because we are not morons.

re: #12 Bumr50

I wonder what happens to these people when Bush finally leaves office and their common thread disintegrates.

Look at how long Nixon was the Leftoids' Bogeyman after he left office. GWB will be the Leftoids' Bogeyman for quite some time.

re: #100 Lizard by the Bay

That would be "Worf".

Aha!

re: #103 Occasional Reader

Launch?

re: #102 The Other Les

"I'm not a merry man!"

GOLDEN! Loved that ep. . .

re: #78 SurferDoc

On screen.

It appears to be a being from an alternate reality. Possibly an alternate lifestyle and intelligence as well.

Counselor?

I'm overwhelmed, sir! I'm feeling everything all at once, all the time. These beings are made up completely of feelings! [collapses]

re: #87 Ben Hur

But sir!

I'm a Klingon!

(Believe me, I do a perfect Warf immitation in person)

Captain, I must protest! I am NOT a Merry Man!

So is imaginary LGF LGFi, or iLGF?

re: #101 Occasional Reader

Thanks

re: #104 gop_patriot

Oh my gosh, did you see the one before that?

That reminds me of my favorite seafood place in North Carolina: Dirty Dick's Crab House.

re: #104 gop_patriot

Oh my gosh, did you see the one before that?

I check daily.

One of the best sites out there.

LGF * the square root of negative one!

re: #15 midwestgak

They will find another scapegoat. Count on it.

Sara Palin

re: #117 MrSilverDragon

LGF * the square root of negative one!

i?

re: #117 MrSilverDragon

LGF * the square root of negative one!

So now we can finally calculate the phase angle, lag, and lead.

re: #80 Ben Hur

Fortune Fail

Obviously a product of the Sum Dum Goy fortune cookie factory.

(name that movie!)

The Last Dragon

re: #106 Diamond Bullet

If by "this type" he means a free debate of opposing viewpoints, then he is clearly wrong. But if he means a debate about whether a sitting state Governor actually had a fake pregnancy to cover for that of a teenage child despite all facts, evidence, attending doctor testimony, and ON THE SCENE MEDIA COVERAGE to the contrary, then yes - LGF would not have that type of debate because we are not morons.

Yes, if my debate one means being able to spout whatever crap comes to mind without need or requirement of factual support. . .then YES go someplace OTHER than LGF. . .here Charles even requires us to follow rules and such. . .register. . .sheesh, *%6# rules and facts. . .

re: #119 maddogg

i?

i

re: #121 Golem Akbar

The Last Dragon

Sho Nuff!

re: #123 Lizard by the Bay

i

So which one of you is it?

/

re: #63 Erik The Red

In England they have similiar rules. Pistol and rifle ammo must be accounted for, and you must have a license, plus belong to a shooting club-who will verify you shot x number of rounds each month. Thank God I'm an American, and live in Texas.

re: #123 Lizard by the Bay

i

i,i

So now the only legitimate debate is rehashing the minutiae of various conspiracy theories? Wow, just plain wow. Someone has been searching for their brain for quite some time now, apparently.

re: #57 Ben Hur

Stormfront thinks we're Kos and Kos thinks we're Stormfront.

I think we should drop both groups on a desert island and let them have at it. Two birds, one stone.

re: #115 Lizard by the Bay

That reminds me of my favorite seafood place in North Carolina: Dirty Dick's Crab House.

Or this place at the Lake of the Ozarks in Missouri.Home of the minnow shot

I've been a lizard for just over a year, sitting here with my fishing tackle, waiting futilely for someone to open de bait.

re: #119 maddogg

i?

Yup!... as referenced by re: #113 OldLineTexan a mere 21 seconds before. :)

Yeah, and open debate is so valued by the KosKids that during the Dem primaries the entire Hillary camp packed up their tents and left

re: #116 Ben Hur

I check daily.

One of the best sites out there.

I'm glad i'm working at home today!
Splattered scotch water all over my monitor! That was great. Bookmarked.

re: #126 Pietr

In England they have similiar rules. Pistol and rifle ammo must be accounted for, and you must have a license, plus belong to a shooting club-who will verify you shot x number of rounds each month. Thank God I'm an American, and live in Texas.

My Brit friend's firearms license covered 50 rounds of pistol ammunition for each calibre (British!) that he was allowed on his "ticket".

Don't have .45 ACP on your ticket? Can't buy it! Don't have the club proof that you used your 50? Can't buy it!

re: #131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I've been a lizard for just over a year, sitting here with my fishing tackle, waiting futilely for someone to open de bait.

Be careful where you sit, since some of the debators are masters...

re: #133 wahabicorridor

Yeah, and open debate is so valued by the KosKids that during the Dem primaries the entire Hillary camp packed up their tents and left

Winning is all that matters to the KosKiddies, and getting rid of that Bad Man Bush.

re: #130 kcladderman

Oops i see that is the one that started the conversation guess i should of backtracked.

re: #136 Golem Akbar

Be careful where you sit, since some of the debators are masters...

ewww! *chuckle* ewww!

I'm sorry, but anyone who names their site or blog "The Dish" is probably a complete tool.

re: #126 Pietr

In England they have similiar rules. Pistol and rifle ammo must be accounted for, and you must have a license, plus belong to a shooting club-who will verify you shot x number of rounds each month. Thank God I'm an American, and live in Texas.

We are not as bad as the UK yet. But the government is slowing trying to disarm the law abiding citizens. Feel sorry of the poor criminals and screw the tax paying,law obeying citizen

re: #136 Golem Akbar

Be careful where you sit, since some of the debators are masters...

Master Debaters? I think you meant those folk who had achieved the highest proficiency in the realm of applying bait upon hooks... ;)

re: #129 Hard Right

I think we should drop both groups on a desert island and let them have at it. Two birds, one stone.

Knowing several Stormfront and Kos types the Kos-ites are more disturbing by far.

At least the Stormfront types generally know they're a fringe element of society.

Kos-ites, not so much. They tend to believe they're the majority.

re: #131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I get to be one-year tomorrow!

re: #140 SpaceJesus

I'm sorry, but anyone who names their site or blog "The Dish" is probably a complete tool.

Sounds like something even a dog wouldn't eat or drink out of.

re: #131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I've been a lizard for just over a year, sitting here with my fishing tackle, waiting futilely for someone to open de bait.

Any cheesy poofs? (nibble)

re: #142 FurryOldGuyJeans

Master Debaters? I think you meant those folk who had achieved the highest proficiency in the realm of applying bait upon hooks... ;)

Yes, off course.

re: #129 Hard Right

I think we should drop both groups on a desert island and let them have at it. Two birds, one stone.

Although outnumbered, Stormfront wins this one going away.

/Calling the bookie

Sorry did I change this into an evil gun thread?

re: #143 Van Helsing

Knowing several Stormfront and Kos types the Kos-ites are more disturbing by far.

At least the Stormfront types generally know they're a fringe element of society.

Kos-ites, not so much. They tend to believe they're the majority.

I've been to both sites and you are exactly right.

re: #149 Erik The Red

Sorry did I change this into an evil gun thread?

I'd rather do a boob thread, but that's just me.

re: #140 SpaceJesus

I'm sorry, but anyone who names their site or blog "The Dish" is probably a complete tool.

Lt. Dish from M*A*S*H, tool...

I'm stopping.

re: #135 OldLineTexan

It is really trying on the Game keepers-they use .22 rifle's to protect the crops. And of course, are limited on the amount of ammo they can get-plus having to somehow show they fired x number rounds at varmints (includes rabitts and Hares), and need more...:>(

There are no evil guns, just evil gun laws.

re: #154 maddogg

There are no evil guns, just evil gun laws.

You left out evil in-laws.

re: #148 experiencedtraveller

Although outnumbered, Stormfront wins this one going away.

/Calling the bookie

We can throw in the New Black Panther party a bit later. Heh.

re: #151 Golem Akbar

Did that on the LNDT and almost got the stick for more than one post. Look at 204 if you are so inclined.

re: #154 maddogg

There are no evil guns, just evil gun laws.

And criminals that would ignore any gun law anyway.

re: #154 maddogg

There are no evil guns, just evil gun laws.

Evil is the absence of good.

re: #159 experiencedtraveller

Evil is the absence of good.

Then, clearly, my wife's cooking is evil.

re: #4 doppelganglander

Clearly he's never been to an evolution/ID thread.

When you do visit that thread, you should have your Blue Cross card at the ready. Very rough, which is why I like it.

re: #154 maddogg

There are no evil guns, just evil gun laws.

The quote from one of the Brady Bunch regarding the statement about having National Parks follow the CCL laws of the state(s) they are located in was something like "this will just make it easier for dangerous people to bring guns to these parks".

No. It will make it easier for law-abiding citizens to bring guns to these parks. Most of us aren't dangerous. Except to criminals.

And the criminals don't pay attention to the laws anyway. That's what makes them 'criminals'.

re: #151 Golem Akbar

I'd rather do a boob thread, but that's just me.

An evil boob thread?

re: #163 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

An evil boob thread?

Back to Jimmy Carter eh?

Later fellas! Off to warp the young minds of tomorrow's leaders!
Peace/Shalom

re: #163 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

An evil boob thread?

We're talking about Qaddafi?

re: #131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I've been a lizard for just over a year, sitting here with my fishing tackle, waiting futilely for someone to open de bait.

So that you may be chumming with another?
:~>

re: #167 solomonpanting

So that you may be chumming with another?
:~>

...or just floundering around...

re: #162 Van Helsing

The quote from one of the Brady Bunch regarding the statement about having National Parks follow the CCL laws of the state(s) they are located in was something like "this will just make it easier for dangerous people to bring guns to these parks".

No. It will make it easier for law-abiding citizens to bring guns to these parks. Most of us aren't dangerous. Except to criminals.

And the criminals don't pay attention to the laws anyway. That's what makes them 'criminals'.

Wow. That was, like, really deep, man. I'm, like, totally blown away. you should go into politics or something.

-moonbat mode off.

Which is why the Dems and the liberals just don't get it. It is as obvious as the nose on our faces.

re: #161 opnion

When you do visit that thread, you should have your Blue Cross card at the ready. Very rough, which is why I like it.

I go into burning buildings for a living but I shudder when I venture into an ID thread.

re: #167 solomonpanting

So that you may be chumming with another?
:~>

Careful, thats just his hook

re: #168 CIA Reject

...or just floundering around...

You fishin' fer sumting?

re: #67 DisturbedEma

I read Kos, it is why I feel I can reject them and those that read/post, also Huffpo I read- I simply have to see it for myself. . .and remain in awe of the sheer amount of hate, lies and crap on these tolerant left sites. . .

At one time, I attempted to post comments on HuffPo...my comments fell into one of two categories: 1. removed within a few minutes, or 2. never posted. No personal attacks on the essayist, no foul language, just a "glitch" in the otherwise unbroken stream of praise for the writer and bile for the "Neocons."

I gave up.

re: #162 Van Helsing

The quote from one of the Brady Bunch regarding the statement about having National Parks follow the CCL laws of the state(s) they are located in was something like "this will just make it easier for dangerous people to bring guns to these parks".

No. It will make it easier for law-abiding citizens to bring guns to these parks. Most of us aren't dangerous. Except to criminals.

And the criminals don't pay attention to the laws anyway. That's what makes them 'criminals'.

Pointless to confuse the addled with common sense. It will only make their heads hurt. Change!

re: #172 father_of_10

You fishin' fer sumting?

Naw- I'll just clam up...

re: #171 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Careful, thats just his hook

Hope he's not trolling.

re: #176 solomonpanting

Hope he's not trolling.

More likely a one time gaffe

Huh -

LGF and Michelle Malkin are gleeful because I called Andrew out over the Palin baby rumors, but I can’t imagine that either blog would ever allow this type of open debate.

I have to confess that I only go to Michelle Malkin's site or Hot Air once in a while - unless linked to it here, so I can't really speak to them.
But if this person thinks we don't have debates on LGF - sometimes over some pretty "sensitive" stuff, where commenters challenge each other and sometimes Charles over certain facts or interpretation of events, or where LGFer's present news that they have just heard and we all debate the import of that news item, then Charles is absolutely correct: he's NEVER read LGF.
This is still the toughtest room in the blogosphere - if you don't know your stuff or can't link to material that supports what you say, stay the hell off LGF.

re: #175 CIA Reject

Naw- I'll just clam up...

That might not net you much, though.

re: #177 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

More likely a one time gaffe

I'll bite. What's the net gain with this pun-ishment?

re: #57 Ben Hur

Stormfront thinks we're Kos and Kos thinks we're Stormfront.

"stuck in the middle with you..."

re: #179 father_of_10

That might not net you much, though.

True - I might not get jack...

OT Good News OT Good News!

That's MY president! Speaking truth to tyranny.
Bless you, Sir~!

Hallelujah Chorus, please:

Bush Calls on Mugabe to Step Down

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

re: #180 Van Helsing

I'll bite. What's the net gain with this pun-ishment?

Thats quite a question to tackle

re: #121 Golem Akbar

The Last Dragon

YES!

They're filming a remake, you know.

Samuel L Jackson is playing Sho-nuff, the Shogun of Harlem.

Last update - 19:54 09/12/2008

Carter, in Lebanon, says ready to meet with Hezbollah officials

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Yeah, big surprise there?

re: #163 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

An evil boob thread?

Only if we're discussing people with small bosoms, since evil is absence...

re: #183 alegrias

OT Good News OT Good News!

That's MY president! Speaking truth to tyranny.
Bless you, Sir~!

Hallelujah Chorus, please:

Bush Calls on Mugabe to Step Down

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

So, about 8 years too late.

Mr. Appel sounds a bit huffy and defensive. As if there were some sort of nobility in debating lies, innuendo, and out-and-out slander, as opposed to real topics.

re: #26 DisturbedEma

Already an asshole. . .

. . .and developing hemorrhoids.

re: #134 Van Helsing

I'm glad i'm working at home today!
Splattered scotch water all over my monitor! That was great. Bookmarked.

Political activism, or are you sick?

re: #183 alegrias

OT Good News OT Good News!

That's MY president! Speaking truth to tyranny.
Bless you, Sir~!

Hallelujah Chorus, please:

Bush Calls on Mugabe to Step Down

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Or what? Mugabe will ignore this and get Obama to kiss his ass.

re: #182 CIA Reject

True - I might not get jack...

But still, the right line could hook quite a catch, chum.

re: #191 Ben Hur

Political activism, or are you sick?

Considering today, that could be a very personal question.

re: #135 OldLineTexan

My Brit friend's firearms license covered 50 rounds of pistol ammunition for each calibre (British!) that he was allowed on his "ticket".

Don't have .45 ACP on your ticket? Can't buy it! Don't have the club proof that you used your 50? Can't buy it!

Coming soon to a country around you, if'n the Obamanation gets its way.

re: #178 realwest

Huh -

I have to confess that I only go to Michelle Malkin's site or Hot Air once in a while - unless linked to it here, so I can't really speak to them.
But if this person thinks we don't have debates on LGF - sometimes over some pretty "sensitive" stuff, where commenters challenge each other and sometimes Charles over certain facts or interpretation of events, or where LGFer's present news that they have just heard and we all debate the import of that news item, then Charles is absolutely correct: he's NEVER read LGF.
This is still the toughtest room in the blogosphere - if you don't know your stuff or can't link to material that supports what you say, stay the hell off LGF.

I disagree. We rarely debate.

/irony

re: #178 realwest

Huh -

I have to confess that I only go to Michelle Malkin's site or Hot Air once in a while - unless linked to it here, so I can't really speak to them.
But if this person thinks we don't have debates on LGF - sometimes over some pretty "sensitive" stuff, where commenter's challenge each other and sometimes Charles over certain facts or interpretation of events, or where LGFer's present news that they have just heard and we all debate the import of that news item, then Charles is absolutely correct: he's NEVER read LGF.
This is still the toughtest room in the blogosphere - if you don't know your stuff or can't link to material that supports what you say, stay the hell off LGF.

It is tough because only the best survive and the regular commentators here will very quickly let you know if you are talking shit and have no balls to validate what you are saying.

re: #189 Russkilitlover

Mr. Appel sounds a bit huffy and defensive. As if there were some sort of nobility in debating lies, innuendo, and out-and-out slander, as opposed to real topics.

Who was it that said, "If you attempt to debate an idiot, you run the risk of being confused with the idiot"? (Or something like that.)

re: #183 alegrias

OT Good News OT Good News!

That's MY president! Speaking truth to tyranny.
Bless you, Sir~!

Hallelujah Chorus, please:

Bush Calls on Mugabe to Step Down

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Will fall on the ears of moral equivalence.

I don't know who or what the ''Daily Dish" is but these were especially sweet comments from last night:

Crap charles i quoted a deleted comment..It was so out of line..
Bring down the wacking stick..I know it's not me..

It wasn't yet deleted when I answered it, but I should've figured it would be, and forfended.

Mea culpa.

All I can say is Wow!
Only in dhimmitude to Islam do folks self-censor before the fact so as to be better than that!
They refuse to say anything about anything even vaguely off the Koranic reservation.
I never got a chance to see what the poster commented on BEFORE it was deleted by Charles, but it apparently (to the writer of the above) required some sort of response.
Once deletion was the official response however, this quote came out.
Pretty soon that poster won't be saying anything contrary to any poster, lest the original post gets deleted and he obviously fears getting reported so much he just won't open a conversation.
So, where does that leave conversation here?
Is there a code of conversations that are OK?
Is there a list (and don't be my dad saying ''religion and politics") of prohibited subjects within threads?
When Charles condensed the front page's left-hand side did he hide a set of new rules I might have missed?

re: #195 razorbacker

Coming soon to a country around you, if'n the Obamanation gets its way.

Get a Rock Chucker for Christmas. Stock up on brass, primers, powder and bullets.

re: #193 father_of_10

But still, the right line could hook quite a catch, chum.

I'll need to cast it in the proper terms...

re: #66 MrSilverDragon

I imagine a world full of peace, love, and fluffy bunnies... and then I watch "Fatal Attraction".

Fluffy bunnies with sharp, nasty, pointy teeth and a mean streak in them a mile wide...

re: #203 LGoPs

Fluffy bunnies with sharp, nasty, pointy teeth and a mean streak in them a mile wide...

"Look at the bones!"

5000 comments a day on LGF! Those poor hamsters!

But seriously, how much server traffic does that PDB get (poor dumb b***)?

re: #93 Erik The Red

Have already. Will get shipped in a 40 container with the rest of our house hold goods. Not to sure what to do once I get to Florida. Do I need to tell the police?

contact a lawyer in FLA regarding that sort of thing. there may also be some hoops to jump through with Customs/ATF. best you start on any/all paperw*rk now, rather than have legal issues when it hits the dock.

re: #183 alegrias

OT Good News OT Good News!

That's MY president! Speaking truth to tyranny.
Bless you, Sir~!

Hallelujah Chorus, please:

Bush Calls on Mugabe to Step Down

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Will make no difference to Zim. Mugabe has syphilis and thinks he is G_d.

re: #196 DeafDog

Malkin / Hot Air is pretty much a closed club. I believe they opened up registration once in the past year.

re: #65 Occasional Reader

I've already get my standard (if heterodox) fire control orders all worked out, if I'm ever given a command by Starfleet: "Fire all our weapons at them, as rapidly as possible, until they either blow up or surrender". None of this "fire phasers... once... and then let's see how they react" crap.

"Fire across her nose!"
ZAP! ZAP!
"I said across her nose, not UP it!"

/'Spaceballs'

re: #188 Walter L. Newton

So, about 8 years too late.

* * *
You're right in a sense that reversing Carter-era creations is a constant struggle.

Pres. Carter had high hopes for Marxist Mugabe.

Hiz'b'calbah refuses to meet with Carter

re: #200 mean Gene

I don't know who or what the ''Daily Dish" is but these were especially sweet comments from last night:

All I can say is Wow!
Only in dhimmitude to Islam do folks self-censor before the fact so as to be better than that!
They refuse to say anything about anything even vaguely off the Koranic reservation.
I never got a chance to see what the poster commented on BEFORE it was deleted by Charles, but it apparently (to the writer of the above) required some sort of response.
Once deletion was the official response however, this quote came out.
Pretty soon that poster won't be saying anything contrary to any poster, lest the original post gets deleted and he obviously fears getting reported so much he just won't open a conversation.
So, where does that leave conversation here?
Is there a code of conversations that are OK?
Is there a list (and don't be my dad saying ''religion and politics") of prohibited subjects within threads?
When Charles condensed the front page's left-hand side did he hide a set of new rules I might have missed?

Actually Gene, I think your full of it. I've been on LGF for over 4 years and have never had a post deleted . . . even back when I was calling Trout a commie.

Self-censoring is the mark of civilness and polite society. but if you need rudeness to think LGF is accepting, then we can certainly oblige you.

re: #198 SlartyBartfast

Who was it that said, "If you attempt to debate an idiot, you run the risk of being confused with the idiot"? (Or something like that.)

The (insensitive) one I've heard is: Debating lunatics on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard.

re: #192 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Or what? Mugabe will ignore this and get Obama to kiss his ass.

* * *
Or not.

Last week Obama relative (? fact check please) Mr. President Raila Odinga ALSO called for Mugabe to step down.

Temperature's rising!

re: #206 redc1c4

I have huge legal issues this side. So huge that I can't jump through. I have a family attorney State side that is looking into it for me.

re: #211 WrathofG-d

Hiz'b'calbah refuses to meet with Carter

Finally, Kragaristan and Hezzy has a common ground to build from.

re: #202 CIA Reject

I'll need to cast it in the proper terms...

But if you can't reel it in, then why bother?

The British loved Arafat but loathe Mugabe.

Because white British people have had a constant historical and cultural presense in their Biblical homeland of...Zimbabwe.

*cough*

re: #217 father_of_10

But if you can't reel it in, then why bother?

I'll just start with a leader...

Nothing can happen to Mugabe.

South Africa is the Super Power of Africa, and since Mugabe out ranks the president of SA in their tribe, SA won't do sh*t.

re: #212 father_of_10

Let's be honest here. There ARE surely topics, and forms of speech that are surely not allowed on LGF.

Just like yesterday, with the moronic claims of 1st Amendment/Free Speech/and Governmental-like censorship, however the truth of the underlying fact doesn't mean that the conclusion is also true.

Thus, although many topics are "not acceptable" on LGF, that hardly means that open debate is non-existent, or disallowed on LGF - as this author claims.

re: #200 mean Gene

Threats of violence and particularly vile comments (racist or sexist); and trying to tell Charles what he can or cannot post on.

Simple rules.

re: #207 Erik The Red

Will make no difference to Zim. Mugabe has syphilis and thinks he is G_d.

Hmmm... Of whom does that remind me?

re: #220 CIA Reject

I'll just start with a leader...

Go ahead, but I doubt that will float past the pier.

Blago sounds like someone who will last about 90 seconds in General Population.
Are ALL Illinois politicians as arrogant as he and Obama?
I'm more used to the PA weasel type.
Intreresting, the evolution of the politician in different environs.

re: #224 experiencedtraveller

re: #207 Erik The Red

Hmmm... Of whom does that remind me?

About half of the Democrat Party actually...

re: #115 Lizard by the Bay

That reminds me of my favorite seafood place in North Carolina: Dirty Dick's Crab House.

There's a restaurant not far from where I live called Pho Kim ("Pho" is pronounced "fuh"). I need to get a photo of that and send it to Failblog.

re: #196 DeafDog

I disagree. We rarely debate.

/irony

I agree with you.

/echo chamber

re: #222 WrathofG-d

Let's be honest here. There ARE surely topics, and forms of speech that are surely not allowed on LGF.

Are you insinuating that occasionally you, or worse WE, are not always honest and this, being a special occassion, is a time that we are?

re: #221 Ben Hur

Nothing can happen to Mugabe.

South Africa is the Super Power of Africa, and since Mugabe out ranks the president of SA in their tribe, SA won't do sh*t.

Our political scene here in S.Africa is so fucked up that I don't even know who the President is right now. All we know is that the ANC is still the ruling party.

re: #191 Ben Hur

Political activism, or are you sick?

Even worse - writing documentation. Hence, scotch.

re: #212 father_of_10

Actually Gene, I think your full of it. I've been on LGF for over 4 years and have never had a post deleted . . . even back when I was calling Trout a commie.

Self-censoring is the mark of civilness and polite society. but if you need rudeness to think LGF is accepting, then we can certainly oblige you.

Look, neither you nor I ever saw what this commentor wrote...I didn't even see what the poster I quoted wrote about what he wrote.
BUT, if something needs to be replied to and you think you can give a good reply should you wait to see if first Charles will be deleting that comment altogether?
In some subjects (which seem to be quite popular subjects here) apparently so.
I was not being uncivil and have no idea if the original poster was.

I think there's a huge difference between addressing a point and being rude.
I think I know how to answer without being rude.
I have found that nearly 100% of posters here do, too.

This thread's subject is the way different blogs (I know, LGF is not a blog) deal with dissent.
I was simply sharing something from last night's thread about a long video debate on Creation/Evolution?Intelligent Design.

re: #216 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Finally, Kragaristan and Hezzy has a common ground to build from.

Excellent. Let's start a peace process.

Did no one tell mene Gene that "this is true internet dictatorship"?

OT- The Alliance for Climate Protection's commercials are infiltrating everything I watch.
Gonna go see who's paying, unless someone here knows.

re: #131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I've been a lizard for just over a year, sitting here with my fishing tackle, waiting futilely for someone to open de bait.

There's always that great fishing controversy, Row vs. Wade.

re: #230 Ben Hur

Are you insinuating that occasionally you, or worse WE, are not always honest and this, being a special occassion, is a time that we are?

That was confusing!

re: #225 father_of_10

Go ahead, but I doubt that will float past the pier.

Well it beats being tide down anyway...

re: #201 father_of_10

Get a Rock Chucker for Christmas. Stock up on brass, primers, powder and bullets.

Naw. Chances are pretty good that I've got all the cartridges that I'll ever need. I don't target shoot much anymore, and when I do it's with the muzzle loader or .22.

For years, whenever anyone asked what I wanted for birthday, Christmas, etc., I told them cartridges and gave them the SKUs for what I wanted.

I just hope there's never a house fire.

re: #180 Van Helsing

I'll bite. What's the net gain with this pun-ishment?

it develops your mussels!

re: #221 Ben Hur

Nothing can happen to Mugabe.

South Africa is the Super Power of Africa, and since Mugabe out ranks the president of SA in their tribe, SA won't do sh*t.

Tribes are different but it goes back to apartheid days and who was buddy Buddy with the ANC.

re: #231 Erik The Red

Our political scene here in S.Africa is so fucked up that I don't even know who the President is right now. All we know is that the ANC is still the ruling party.

Good luck with that.

re: #236 Bumr50

OT- The Alliance for Climate Protection's commercials are infiltrating everything I watch.
Gonna go see who's paying, unless someone here knows.

If I were you I'd start with Soros

re: #240 Iron Fist

Damn. I don't know how much ammunition I have. In all calibers, I'd guess 12-15 thousand rounds. It's all legal.

Damn nice to be you.

This guy has obviously never read LGF beyond the headlines. The comments are open and free, and always spur vigorous debate.

Speaking of vigorous debate, get bent Patrick!

re: #213 Lizard by the Bay

The (insensitive) one I've heard is: Debating lunatics on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard.

I think that Mark Twain said , "Never debate an idiot. Onlookers might not be able to tell the difference." Or something like that.

re: #223 Dianna

Threats of violence and particularly vile comments (racist or sexist); and trying to tell Charles what he can or cannot post on.

Simple rules.

Thanks, Dianna.
I knew those rules.
I've been around for years here.
It might have been one of those even though the thread didn't lean in any of those directions (except for maybe he could have wanted to tell Charles what to post about).
And, like I said, I have no idea what was originally deleted that the poster I quoted had also commented on before he did his ''mea culpa."

re: #233 mean Gene

Look, neither you nor I ever saw what this commentor wrote...I didn't even see what the poster I quoted wrote about what he wrote.
BUT, if something needs to be replied to and you think you can give a good reply should you wait to see if first Charles will be deleting that comment altogether?
In some subjects (which seem to be quite popular subjects here) apparently so.
I was not being uncivil and have no idea if the original poster was.

I think there's a huge difference between addressing a point and being rude.
I think I know how to answer without being rude.
I have found that nearly 100% of posters here do, too.

This thread's subject is the way different blogs (I know, LGF is not a blog) deal with dissent.
I was simply sharing something from last night's thread about a long video debate on Creation/Evolution?Intelligent Design.

I was monitoring that thread for awhile and I saw what you are referring to. I don't think that posters here are in fear that they might say something the Great Charles would disapprove of and thus get banned. Comparing the LGF community to Islamic dhiminiturds that are fearful of insulting the Ayatollah is just a bit of stretch.

re: #168 CIA Reject

...or just floundering around...

He's waiting with baited breath, totally hooked on LGF.

re: #244 Ben Hur

Good luck with that.

Only 6 months left here if all goes well. I think the country is going to be ok until about 12 months after the 2010 soccer world cup. After than hold on.

re: #247 Wyatt Earp

This guy has obviously never read LGF beyond the headlines. The comments are open and free, and always spur vigorous debate.

Speaking of vigorous debate, get bent Patrick!

In early days, even guns were a nasty debate topic. The anti-gun crowd was numerous and vocal.

re: #245 wahabicorridor

I'm at Teddy Roosevelt IV, who (via muckety) is related to Lehman Bros.

re: #247 Wyatt Earp

Hey! Weren't you and your wife due to have a baby like yesterday?

re: #253 Silhouette

In early days, even guns were a nasty debate topic. The anti-gun crowd was numerous and vocal.

And the best part is that Charles let them go at it. That's the beauty of LGF, in my opinion.

re: #201 father_of_10

Get a Rock Chucker for Christmas. Stock up on brass, primers, powder and bullets.

go Dillon on the press... much easier/faster to use.

re: #255 wahabicorridor

Hey! Weren't you and your wife due to have a baby like yesterday?

Julia Elizabeth, born 12-3-08, 12:49am. 6 pounds, 14 ounces.