US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald describes the charges against Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. The depth of the corruption in this case is mind-boggling; Fitzgerald calls it “a political corruption crime spree.”
[Video removed because it was full of flaky code that was causing problems.]
758 comments
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:00:45am |
They've got him dead to rights.
The question is, who will do his hair in prison?
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CIA Reject Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:02:03am |
So I guess this means the governor won't be using his seat at the BO inauguration.
Maybe we can sell it!
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:02:22am |
I was hoping this was video of Blago being perpwalked out of his house, in his Dr. Dentons.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:02:42am |
re: #5 CIA Reject
So I guess this means the governor won't be using his seat at the BO inauguration.
Maybe we can sell it!
FBI! Freeze!
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NelsFree Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:02:43am |
Gee, if they had not stopped the "ongoing crime spree", ...
Who
Knows
Where
It
Would
End
Up?
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:03:00am |
"Delaware Governor Blagojevich has taken us to a new low . . ."
"Um, he's governor of Illinois, not Delaware."
"Really? Oh, well then this is just par for the course, then."
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:03:28am |
How long before he "connects the dots" to The One?
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NYCHardhat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:03:42am |
The MSM helped get this POS elected so they can have JOB SECURITY with all of the scandals thatwill erupt.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:03:53am |
So, this guy already knew that he was being investigated for what ever, and he continued to try to bankroll what he could in the meantime.
I will have to give him a hell of a lot of credit. That takes more balls than most people would have.
Or a total lack on any scruples.
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jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:03:54am |
I wonder what will fall out of if Blago decides to sing for a deal?
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:03:55am |
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SpringheelJack Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:03:58am |
This will get really interesting if Obama emulates Clinton and conducts a mass purge of federal prosecutors as soon as he's in office.
I wonder if Fitz will indict Obama before the inauguration?
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:04:11am |
Did the FBI initially start the case because of what Tony Rezko was saying?
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jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:04:15am |
re: #6 Ward Cleaver
I was hoping this was video of Blago being perpwalked out of his house, in his Dr. Dentons.
With the flap down?
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wiffersnapper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:04:22am |
And yea, the Messiah was replaced with the highest-bidding Roman in Bethlehem.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:04:23am |
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NelsFree Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:04:24am |
You know, they didn't have to stop things at this time. Unless BHO were involved. Would the Chicago FBI be so influenced?
/Brain whirling
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:04:47am |
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Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:04:57am |
He must have practiced saying "Governor Blagojevich" for about 10 minutes before this press conference...
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DocDale Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:05:09am |
Wow, what a crook. You'd have to start practicing in grade school to be that bent.
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pingjockey Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:05:21am |
Just got home after having a "thing" removed from on the inside of my eyelid. Boss said no driving company vehicle one eyed! FNC is playing the hell out of this Yeah! The rest of the msm I haven't looked at. BTW, if it was talk like a pirate day I'd be all set. Eye patch arrrgh!
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:05:27am |
I've been listening to Rush Limbaugh on this subject (boy is he ever having fun with it!) and he pointed out two things. That the person who Obama chose to replace him withdrew her name just days before the bust. AND - That the state is now trying to impeach the gov as soon as possible because he can still make appointments from prison.
Chicago is such a clown car opperation!
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Texas Heathen Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:05:37am |
re: #13 Walter L. Newton
So, this guy already knew that he was being investigated for what ever, and he continued to try to bankroll what he could in the meantime.
I will have to give him a hell of a lot of credit. That takes more balls than most people would have.
Or a total lack on any
scruplesBrains.
there that's better
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OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:05:40am |
re: #11 Ward Cleaver
How long before he "connects the dots" to The One?
Remember the "evolutionary timescale"?
It's not long enough.
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Ann Nonymous Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:05:51am |
Everyone and his/her uncle knew this guy has been under investigation for one thing or another for years...and still he tries to pull this crap? Can you say arrogance?
Kudos to the feds for going after this guy. I HOPE this will bring CHANGE in Illinois but...eh, who am I kidding?
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Russkilitlover Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:05:52am |
re: #13 Walter L. Newton
So, this guy already knew that he was being investigated for what ever, and he continued to try to bankroll what he could in the meantime.
I will have to give him a hell of a lot of credit. That takes more balls than most people would have.
Or a total lack on any scruples.
Or friends in high places...
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Erik The Red Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:05:53am |
re: #13 Walter L. Newton
So, this guy already knew that he was being investigated for what ever, and he continued to try to bankroll what he could in the meantime.
I will have to give him a hell of a lot of credit. That takes more balls than most people would have.
Or a total lack on any scruples.
I would say it takes no brains.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:05:54am |
re: #16 SpringheelJack
This will get really interesting if Obama emulates Clinton and conducts a mass purge of federal prosecutors as soon as he's in office.
I wonder if Fitz will indict Obama before the inauguration?
But I thought firing federal prosecutors was a bad thing. Look at the attention Bush and Gonzalez drew for firing just 8 of them!
Oh, wait, they were Republicans. It's no problem when Democrats do it, just like everything else.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:06:39am |
re: #25 DocDale
Wow, what a crook. You'd have to start practicing in grade school to be that bent.
He probably stole his student council election.
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:07:08am |
re: #13 Walter L. Newton
So, this guy already knew that he was being investigated for what ever, and he continued to try to bankroll what he could in the meantime.
I will have to give him a hell of a lot of credit. That takes more balls than most people would have.
Or a total lack on any scruples.
Or more stupidity than a room with Barbara Boxer, Cynthia McKinney, and Jim Murtha in it.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:07:46am |
re: #32 Erik The Red
I would say it takes no brains.
It's the conditioner he uses. It's killed a lot of brain cells.
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stuiec Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:08:00am |
re: #27 vapig
Except in Chicago, the clowns carry baseball bats instead of slapsticks.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:08:01am |
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pingjockey Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:08:05am |
Bwahaha! FNC has a picture of the gov just above a pic of the sheik guy at Gitmo.
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Bumr50 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:08:27am |
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Russkilitlover Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:08:49am |
These are fed charges, right? Sooo, a pardon could happen.
Dang - Chicago is so slimy, corrupt, and despicable it can't HELP but bring out the conspiracy theorist in me!
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pingjockey Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:09:13am |
Turban Durbin wants a special election for obambis senate seat.
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stuiec Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:09:20am |
re: #13 Walter L. Newton
So, this guy already knew that he was being investigated for what ever, and he continued to try to bankroll what he could in the meantime.
I will have to give him a hell of a lot of credit. That takes more balls than most people would have.
Or a total lack on any scruples.
Come on, how many politicians do you know who are NOT so bloody arrogant that they don't think they can get away with anything, no matter who's investigating them?
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CIA Reject Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:10:02am |
re: #11 Ward Cleaver
How long before he "connects the dots" to The One?
NOTE TO ALL ASPIRING YOUNG JOURNALISTS OUT THERE: If YOU want to be the next Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein THIS IS YOUR CHANCE!
/Not that any of the dumb, lazy sods will take it...
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:10:25am |
re: #43 pingjockey
Turban Durbin wants a special election for obambis senate seat.
In Illinois does "special election" mean only democrats vote?
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:10:35am |
Wow.
Pretty damning.
Dumb, crooked and hair-challenged is no way to go through life, son.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:10:41am |
The United Nations declared Dec. 9th, 2008 to International Anti-Corruption Day!
How's that working out for you so far, UN?
(Judging by their site, International Anti-Corruption Day runs from Tuesday, Dec. 9th to Wed. Dec. 9th. Apparently, Dec. 9th is 48 hours long this year.)
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Texas Heathen Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:11:05am |
OT
Did you guys see this. Hilarious an almost perfect match except rosie is much uglier.
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jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:11:35am |
re: #47 nevergiveup
In Illinois does "special election" mean only democrats vote?
Special Election = Auction...
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:12:04am |
re: #49 gmsc
The United Nations declared Dec. 9th, 2008 to International Anti-Corruption Day!
How's that working out for you so far, UN?
(Judging by their site, International Anti-Corruption Day runs from Tuesday, Dec. 9th to Wed. Dec. 9th. Apparently, Dec. 9th is 48 hours long this year.)
The UN holding an Anti-Corruption day is like the Mafia holding an Anti-Shakedown day?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:12:14am |
re: #35 Lizard by the Bay
Or more stupidity than a room with Barbara Boxer, Cynthia McKinney, and Jim Murtha in it.
Let's keep Cynthia McKinney out of the list. I truly believe she is a certifiable mental case.
I don't think "Blago" is stupid. I really do think there are people that have no clue to what's right or wrong, all they know is what they want or need at the moment.
Folks, most of the politicians really don't give a holy shit about you or I. I keep saying this, and I won't back down.
You know what will happen.
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:12:15am |
re: #42 Russkilitlover
These are fed charges, right? Sooo, a pardon could happen.
Dang - Chicago is so slimy, corrupt, and despicable it can't HELP but bring out the conspiracy theorist in me!
I've already heard jokes that Obama has to start his pardon list even before he takes office.
This could also be why he's surrounded himself with former Clintonistas - they're masters of deflection and the Clintons were like tephlon during their reign.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:12:30am |
Maybe there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for all this.
For instance, all those bribe solicitations and shakedown threats? Maybe he was just kidding.
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:12:45am |
I hope Obama's house of cards and mirrors begins to fold and wrinkle like a cheap suit!
His "imagined mandate " with it!
Who say's shit runs down hill?
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DistantThunder Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:13:01am |
How does it not affect the jury pool to have Fitzgerald making these comments?
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opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:13:06am |
The really breathtaking part of this is that Blago knew that the Feds were watching him. He knew & continued the corruption
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:13:16am |
I hear Blago has suddenly become urgently interested in prison reform.
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WriterMom Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:13:33am |
Related-did you all hear about Elliot Spitzer's new gig? Journalist.
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unreconstructed rebel Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:13:35am |
Message to in-coming Obama cabinet,
Be very careful what you say to Patrick Fitzgerald!
Yeay! Couldn't happen to a sweeter bunch.
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:13:42am |
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:14:05am |
re: #47 nevergiveup
In Illinois does "special election" mean only democrats vote?
Along with the illegal population, incarcerated criminals, pets and the dead.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:14:10am |
re: #44 stuiec
Come on, how many politicians do you know who are NOT so bloody arrogant that they don't think they can get away with anything, no matter who's investigating them?
Take my whole comment as sarcasm.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:14:19am |
re: #53 Walter L. Newton
most of the politicians really don't give a holy shit about you or
Ime
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CIA Reject Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:14:44am |
re: #63 WriterMom
Related-did you all hear about Elliot Spitzer's new gig? Journalist.
I figured he was a shoe-in for Hillary's senate seat.
/Unless somebody out-bids him...
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unreconstructed rebel Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:14:58am |
re: #3 Ward Cleaver
They've got him dead to rights.
The question is, who will do hi
s hairm in prison?
Fixed it for ya.
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:15:02am |
re: #53 Walter L. Newton
It's not about right or wrong. It's about knowing your under investigation and then going out and talking to anyone who will listen about all the illegal stuff your can do? I mean in corruption 101 at the State College of Illinois don't they teach that?
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Fluffy Bunny Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:15:06am |
re: #46 CIA Reject
I was kind of hoping Zombie and Sharmuta would be all over this, why wait for the msm "journalists" when we have the best right here?
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Cavsupream Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:15:57am |
As an Illinois conservative, this is exactly what all Illinois voters need to see. Wake up! Our whole landscape of this, our great state, is falling apart!
Living in Obamanation (homonym pun intended) I can only hope this can lead people away from the corruption of both parties in this state so we can keep our eyes on fair, limited government.
Too bad we don't have a great conservative in the wings leading us to the Promised Land...
(Don't get me started in Barr-Topinka...)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:16:01am |
"Video: The Arrest of Governor Blagojevich"
Is it going to SHOW the arrest?
*watching video, drooling in anticipation*
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:16:07am |
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Sharmuta Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:16:19am |
Wow- simply stunning. That's some serious corruption, and we wonder why some many American think so little of politicians. This guy's the poster child for what's wrong in American politics.
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opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:17:04am |
re: #58 DistantThunder
How does it not affect the jury pool to have Fitzgerald making these comments?
He's the prosecutor. He laid it out & followed with "If this is true"
When it goes to trial either he or asst. US Attorneys will lay these cfhrges out as their case. The jury hears all of this anyway.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:17:10am |
re: #58 DistantThunder
How does it not affect the jury pool to have Fitzgerald making these comments?
Well... I mean, he's the prosecutor, the one who filed the charges. It's quite routine that they announce "we believe that the guy we're charging is, you know, guilty".
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Buck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:17:10am |
Release the wire tapes to the internet!
Obama's friend Rezco is deep in this...
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Dirk Diggler Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:17:13am |
U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald is about to get gang ass-troturfed. Look for all kinds of sordid allegations regarding his personal life to appear in the left wing blogosphere.
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WriterMom Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:17:51am |
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kaymad Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:18:07am |
This guy has been dirty for a long time. I'm in Indiana and listen to WLS, over the summer it was thought he was going to be indicted for something else (I forget what). He must be pretty stupid because he knew he was being investigated for other things. The last governor of Illinois, a republican, is currently serving Prison time. My sister lives in Chicago and she says the idea of Obama being squeaky clean is laughable, it isn't possible for a Chicago politician to be anything other than corrupt.
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:18:36am |
re: #79 Sharmuta
Wow- simply stunning. That's some serious corruption, and we wonder why some many American think so little of politicians. This guy's the poster child for what's wrong in American politics.
Actually, "Cold Cash" Jefferson might have one upped him. How many crooked politians have there been who've actually been caught with the cash right in the fridge?
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:19:14am |
He was apparently considering taking the Senate seat for himself to help cover his behind.
I would love to know who Senate candidates 1 and 5 were.
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CIA Reject Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:19:20am |
re: #74 Fluffy Bunny
I was kind of hoping Zombie and Sharmuta would be all over this, why wait for the msm "journalists" when we have the best right here?
True that. But I'm just thinking that with the opportunity to bring down a US president just sitting there every J-schooled loser Redford/Hoffman wannabe would be all over it like a cheap suit. Only this president is no Nixon- so no interest...
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:19:22am |
re: #65 Lizard by the Bay
File this one under "too late". Rosie's "talents" were already tapped by Disney in the animated film Tarzan, where she contributed the voice of Tarzan's best ape buddy.
So it was an autobiographical role?
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mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:19:38am |
When I first heard this this AM I thought hubby was kidding me!
So amazing!
Just last night I had heard that Jesse Jackson (Jr?) the Rep. was set to get the Senate seat.
But it went into a bidding war instead, I guess.
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debutaunt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:19:46am |
re: #61 opnion
The really breathtaking part of this is that Blago knew that the Feds were watching him. He knew & continued the corruption
I wonder who he believed had his back.
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Texas Heathen Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:19:49am |
re: #78 Walter L. Newton
lol..did y'all read the caption?
Disney take note, Ursula the Sea Witch and Rosie O'donnell may seem like they have a lot in common, but think of all those poor unfortunate souls who would be mentally wounded for life.
LMAO
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:19:50am |
re: #89 vapig
Actually, "Cold Cash" Jefferson might have one upped him. How many crooked politians have there been who've actually been caught with the cash right in the fridge?
Yeah, but that was what 78,000 $. I mean the Gov here wouldn't even say F...ck You to someone for less than $ 250,000?
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:20:03am |
The MSN will have Obama calf roped and branded on this this evening!
...///
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:20:16am |
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Dirk Diggler Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:20:50am |
Writermom,
And he's Obama's guy, right?
This should be fun.
Patrick Fitzgerald is Obama's guy? Not that I'm aware of. My understanding is Fitzgerald has been a real thorn in the side of the Chicago political machine.
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:21:04am |
re: #99 Ward Cleaver
Will he get a cell next to Jim Traficant?
What did old jim go to jail for again?
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:21:05am |
re: #92 CIA Reject
True that. But I'm just thinking that with the opportunity to bring down a US president just sitting there every J-schooled loser Redford/Hoffman wannabe would be all over it like a cheap suit. Only this president is no Nixon- so no interest...
One of the idiot reporters at the press conference asked (along what Blago was saying yesterday) Fitzgerald if wiretapping this scumbag was any different from what Nixon did.
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Russkilitlover Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:21:08am |
re: #82 Buck
Release the wire tapes to the internet!
Obama's friend and next door neighborRezco is deep in this...
Added a small point. Wonder what the neighborhood barbeques have been like?
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:21:08am |
re: #79 Sharmuta
Wow- simply stunning.
It sounds like the kind of goings-on I read about and hear about in Latin America, quite frankly.
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:21:11am |
OT - techy thingie
Charles or Stinky... When I hit the "New Comments" button, I get another hit from msn.com. Evidently the video clip is being refreshed every time some one hits the New Comments button.
I'm sure that Microsoft's servers that power MSN are robust and can handle the load, but I thought you should know...
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:21:39am |
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:21:40am |
re: #93 Ward Cleaver
So it was an autobiographical role?
Disney is noted for giving people autobiographical roles. Examples include Rosie as an ape, and Whoopi as a hyena.
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Texas Heathen Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:21:42am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:22:07am |
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opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:22:08am |
re: #94 mean Gene
When I first heard this this AM I thought hubby was kidding me!
So amazing!
Just last night I had heard that Jesse Jackson (Jr?) the Rep. was set to get the Senate seat.
But it went into a bidding war instead, I guess.
Just wondering, Blago meets with Jesse Jr. for one & a half hours yesterday & Blago gets busted today, did the Feds hear that conversation & did that seal the deal?
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:22:18am |
re: #97 nevergiveup
Yeah, but that was what 78,000 $. I mean the Gov here wouldn't even say F...ck You to someone for less than $ 250,000?
Point taken - although I think your $250K figure is a tad conservative. This guy wanted some power behind that cash.
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Racer X Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:22:22am |
re: #91 livefreeor die
I would love to know who Senate candidates 1 and 5 were.
It would benefit America greatly if the contents of all secret wire taps were made public. So many politicians are dirty - expose them all. It would certainly discourage the next batch from signing up.
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:22:29am |
re: #108 Texas Heathen
Ah I love a good rosie bashing! :)
We've got a major Democrat scandal and rosie bashing!
Life is good!
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jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:22:34am |
re: #108 Texas Heathen
Ah I love a good rosie bashing! :)
Too easy, like hitting the side of a barn...
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:22:41am |
re: #97 nevergiveup
Yeah, but that was what 78,000 $. I mean the Gov here wouldn't even say F...ck You to someone for less than $ 250,000?
I think comedian Robert Klien had a bit about this. I recall him suggesting that the (relatively) small amount of cash somehow made Jefferson look even more sleazy. If it had been a ton of money, at least he would have looked like a respectable corrupt politician.
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Dirk Diggler Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:23:11am |
jcm,
Do they take rugs off for booking photos?
Yeah what's up with that? Blagojevich's hair piece looks like it could stop a bullet.
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:23:35am |
re: #116 Dirk Diggler
jcm,
Yeah what's up with that? Blagojevich's hair piece looks like it could stop a bullet.
but not, apparently, a wire tap :)
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Silhouette Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:23:51am |
So, who is more corrupt, Chicago or New Orleans?
Talk amonst yourselves.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:23:52am |
I wonder what happens when US Marshals or FBI agents show up at a Governor's office to arrest him. Do the Staties get word in advance to step aside? Otherwise, it could get weird.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:24:01am |
re: #73 nevergiveup
It's not about right or wrong. It's about knowing your under investigation and then going out and talking to anyone who will listen about all the illegal stuff your can do? I mean in corruption 101 at the State College of Illinois don't they teach that?
Why is this a Illinois phenomena? This is par for the course for politicians period. Lizards, these people are not working for us, they haven't been for about 50 years or more.
It's over. Go ahead, don't believe me, fool yourselves that all your support and campaigning for this person or that person makes ANY difference. It doesn't.
Have you heard ONE comment from anyone in the media, law enforcement, public officials, whoever, who has down right condemned this? No, it's all talk like "we had no idea" etc.
We've all been fooled again!
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:24:04am |
re: #107 gmsc
Disney is noted for giving people autobiographical roles. Examples include Rosie as an ape, and Whoopi as a hyena.
How do you write a joke like that, but forget the punchline: Roseanne Barr as a cow.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:24:21am |
re: #99 Ward Cleaver
Will he get a cell next to Jim Traficant?
If he goes to jail, he'll be spending his time in the wing of the federal prison built to house Illinois governors.
It's not like this is any sort of first.
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Sharmuta Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:24:28am |
re: #104 Occasional Reader
It sounds like the kind of goings-on I read about and hear about in Latin America, quite frankly.
I don't doubt it.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:24:35am |
re: #117 MandyManners
Unbleepingbelievable.
Be honest, Mandy, you were Blago's speech coach, weren't you?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:24:47am |
re: #79 Sharmuta
Wow- simply stunning. That's some serious corruption, and we wonder why some many American think so little of politicians. This guy's the poster child for what's wrong in American politics.
THIS GUY IS THE POSTER CHILD FOR AMERICAN POLITICS.
The "wrong" is simply now part of the job description.
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WriterMom Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:25:09am |
re: #100 Dirk Diggler
No-I meant, was he appointed by Obama's new administration? Or is that a national appointment that preceded the Obama administrative appointments?
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:25:17am |
re: #119 Silhouette
So, who is more corrupt, Chicago or New Orleans?
Talk amonst yourselves.
Those are all great chooses but lets not leave DC outta this. After all, that's were the real big money is, as in bail out money?
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:25:18am |
re: #101 nevergiveup
What did old jim go to jail for again?
James Anthony Traficant, Jr. (born May 8, 1941) is a former Democratic Representative in the United States Congress from Ohio (from 1985 to 2002). He was expelled after being convicted of taking bribes, filing false tax returns, racketeering, and forcing his aides to perform chores at his farm in Ohio and on his houseboat in Washington, D.C.,[1] and is currently serving out an eight-year prison term with a projected release date of September 2, 2009.[2]
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:25:18am |
re: #120 Occasional Reader
I wonder what happens when US Marshals or FBI agents show up at a Governor's office to arrest him. Do the Staties get word in advance to step aside? Otherwise, it could get weird.
Apparently, they arrested him at home. The sad thing for his kids is that mom could be involved as well as they were seeking a job for her and they said on Fox that she was on one of the phone calls.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:25:39am |
re: #116 Dirk Diggler
jcm,
Yeah what's up with that? Blagojevich's hair piece looks like it could stop a bullet.
That's why he's not identified as a Democrat in most news accounts; he's actually a member of the Whig Party.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:25:47am |
re: #95 debutaunt
I wonder who he believed had his back.
Is it too wacko-conspiracy-stuff to wonder if Fitzgerald decided (IN PART) to go public now, rather than after ... well ... uh ... you know ... late next month?
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:25:59am |
re: #121 Walter L. Newton
Hey I didn't vote for the guy!
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Creeping Eruption Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:26:10am |
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father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:26:30am |
So what is The ONe going to get in exchange for his political appointments? Sounds like it is Illinois politics du jour to get something . . . after all, it's 'A fu**ing valuable thing, you just don't give it away for nothing'...
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opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:26:45am |
re: #100 Dirk Diggler
Writermom,
Patrick Fitzgerald is Obama's guy? Not that I'm aware of. My understanding is Fitzgerald has been a real thorn in the side of the Chicago political machine.
Neither party wanted Fitzgerald here. He is from New York & was nominated by former Senator Fitzgerald (no relation)
He has been a nightmare for IL pols because he seems incorruptable.
It would be hard for BHO not to retain him from a PR perspective, but a promotion to DC might solve their problem.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:27:05am |
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Emperor Norton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:27:16am |
Democratic Governor Gray Davis of California (recalled)
Democratic Governor Jim McGreevey of New Jersey (resigned)
Democratic Governor Eliot Spitzer of New York (resigned)
Democratic Governor Rod Blagojevich of Illinois (arrested)
Change!
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CIA Reject Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:27:29am |
re: #102 livefreeor die
One of the idiot reporters at the press conference asked (along what Blago was saying yesterday) Fitzgerald if wiretapping this scumbag was any different from what Nixon did.
Exactly: rather than pursue the case to it's logical ends they will attempt to twist the facts to make the offender appear to be the victim.
That's standard procedure for propagandists, not journalists.
Actually being journalists and pursuing the facts would reveal a very unpleasant (for them) reality.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:27:30am |
He wanted money?
/why didn't he just ask Soros like all the rest of the Bonkeys?
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Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:27:31am |
His wife is in deep too..from wiki on him, talks about her:
The governor's wife, Patricia Blagojevich, was a business partner of Rezko's for at least a decade. In 2004, she received over $38,000 in real estate commissions from him.
Goes on and on. Can't imagine 0 isn't complicit. Really.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:27:39am |
re: #132 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Is it too wacko-conspiracy-stuff to wonder if Fitzgerald decided (IN PART) to go public now, rather than after ... well ... uh ... you know ... late next month?
I don't understand your comment?
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outsidephilly Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:28:16am |
Is Rod Blagojevich an electoral college voter from Illinois?
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:28:31am |
re: #117 MandyManners
Unbleepingbelievable.
Nice self-censoring. We still know exactly what you MEANT!
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Fluffy Bunny Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:28:55am |
re: #139 Emperor Norton
Are there enough Kennedy's to fill all of these vacancies?
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:28:57am |
re: #130 livefreeor die
Apparently, they arrested him at home.
It would have been better if they had arrested him at Chicago's Union Station, after a firefight in which Fitzgerald makes a diving catch to save a baby stroller from rolling down the stairs.
/maybe I watch too many movies
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Diamond Bullet Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:29:03am |
It's funny how if you try to play "Six Degrees of Separation" between Obama and every corrupt politician or activist in Illinois, you only ever need 1 step.
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IslandLibertarian Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:29:32am |
In my minds eye, I see a cesspool of corruption and greed, with wet footprints from it heading towards the White House.
They call it "The Chicago Way"...
Power to the Correct People!
(They don't sell Senate Seats.)
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:29:34am |
re: #149 Diamond Bullet
It's funny how if you try to play "Six Degrees of Separation" between Obama and every corrupt politician or activist in Illinois, you only ever need 1 step.
...and a bus.
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:29:40am |
re: #142 Right mind left
His wife is in deep too..from wiki on him, talks about her:
The governor's wife, Patricia Blagojevich, was a business partner of Rezko's for at least a decade. In 2004, she received over $38,000 in real estate commissions from him.
Goes on and on. Can't imagine 0 isn't complicit. Really.
Good grief! There's no way Obama's hands are clean in any of this. He's part of the Chicagoland machine!
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father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:29:40am |
re: #145 vapig
Nice self-censoring. We still know exactly what you MEANT!
Does that self-censoring mean that she is in fear of getting banned? No? Maybe just too civilized to let it all hang out.
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Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:29:42am |
re: #139 Emperor Norton
Democratic Governor Gray Davis of California (recalled)
Democratic Governor Jim McGreevey of New Jersey (resigned)
Democratic Governor Eliot Spitzer of New York (resigned)
Democratic Governor Rod Blagojevich of Illinois (arrested)Change!
What aggravates me is the time and money they spent on Palin for that (what truly was morally justifiable) non-event 'troopergate'.
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outsidephilly Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:29:44am |
re: #146 livefreeor die
How are you today? Is the baby anxious?
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:29:53am |
I like how FOX News lists this story under their 0bama Transition Tracker section - nice touch!
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Texas Heathen Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:29:55am |
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Big Steve Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:29:57am |
I read what I could on this and to be honest, I think the wiretaps sort of exonerate Obama. Blagojevich even gripes that the One would not play ball. Anyone else see it this way?
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:30:17am |
re: #125 Occasional Reader
Be honest, Mandy, you were Blago's speech coach, weren't you?
Bleeping-A.
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debutaunt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:30:20am |
re: #148 Occasional Reader
It would have been better if they had arrested him at Chicago's Union Station, after a firefight in which Fitzgerald makes a diving catch to save a baby stroller from rolling down the stairs.
/maybe I watch too many movies
You, sir, are untouchable.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:30:30am |
re: #143 Walter L. Newton
I don't understand your comment?
Has to be taken in the context of Deb's #95 ... "I wonder who he believed had his back."
/someone in (or headed for) a high place?
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gymmom Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:30:41am |
re: #30 Ann Nonymous
Everyone and his/her uncle knew this guy has been under investigation for one thing or another for years...and still he tries to pull this crap? Can you say arrogance?
Kudos to the feds for going after this guy. I HOPE this will bring CHANGE in Illinois but...eh, who am I kidding?
I call it Audacious, not arrogant ; )
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mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:31:04am |
Don't you feel sorry for 0bama now?
I mean, he was going to rely on advice from wifey, gramma and Teddy Kennedy.
Then he lost gramma.
Teddy won't be much help for long.
Wifey is bringing mother into the White House so 0bama gets MIL on top of wifey.
Now Blagojevich is busted.
All his Chicago and Ill. associates are naturally under the bus.
All poor 0bama's got left are Clintonistas.
And mother in law.
And he was used to just voting ''present.''
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Big Steve Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:31:11am |
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:31:17am |
re: #145 vapig
Nice self-censoring. We still know exactly what you MEANT!
I cracked up watching Fitzgerald.
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opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:31:24am |
re: #130 livefreeor die
Apparently, they arrested him at home. The sad thing for his kids is that mom could be involved as well as they were seeking a job for her and they said on Fox that she was on one of the phone calls.
His wife patti is a real estate agent. She is veeery successful.
One of her business associates was Tony Rezko, not that there's anything wrong with that.
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father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:31:28am |
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Sunlight Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:31:34am |
How it works: a flurry of guilty pleas before the trail reaches the top dog. Also to stop the investigators from finding operations not yet discovered. Same thing happened in New Mexico.
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:31:36am |
re: #155 outsidephilly
How are you today? Is the baby anxious?
No, the baby is being flooded with happy thoughts today, after this story broke! He's happily kicking away. I'm hoping he decides to venture "outside" soon.
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Dirk Diggler Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:31:36am |
livefreeordie,
One of the idiot reporters at the press conference asked (along what Blago was saying yesterday) Fitzgerald if wiretapping this scumbag was any different from what Nixon did.
I'm no Perry Mason but wouldn't the difference have something to do with Fitzy having a warrant to conduct electronic surveillance?
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Erik The Red Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:31:58am |
Give me these guys anytime...Citizen Soldier
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DaddyG Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:32:27am |
I cannot tell you how happy I am to be a state employee of a boring old red state today.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:32:35am |
re: #145 vapig
Nice self-censoring. We still know exactly what you MEANT!
This thread is starting to sound like R2D2. I never realized the cute little guy had such a bleeping bleep mouth!
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:33:11am |
re: #171 Dirk Diggler
livefreeordie,
I'm no Perry Mason but wouldn't the difference have something to do with Fitzy having a warrant to conduct electronic surveillance?
Yeah, it seemed different to me but what do I know? I don't have a journalism degree and magic decoder ring.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:33:13am |
re: #152 vapig
Good grief! There's no way Obama's hands are clean in any of this. He's part of the Chicagoland machine!
No proof of that yet. Nothing in the charges and material released indicated any Obama connection.
Let's not sound like KosKid with our own version of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
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Russkilitlover Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:33:18am |
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I just wanted to type that over and over and over again!
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unreconstructed rebel Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:33:56am |
re: #164 mean Gene
Are you saying we taxpayers are going to have to pave over the elipse to park the cars of all the live-in relatives?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:34:13am |
re: #162 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Has to be taken in the context of Deb's #95 ... "I wonder who he believed had his back."
/someone in (or headed for) a high place?
Then I will say the same thing to you as I said to Vapig...
No proof of that yet. Nothing in the charges and material released indicated any Obama connection.
Let's not sound like KosKid with our own version of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
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Silhouette Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:34:19am |
re: #148 Occasional Reader
It would have been better if they had arrested him at Chicago's Union Station, after a firefight in which Fitzgerald makes a diving catch to save a baby stroller from rolling down the stairs.
/maybe I watch too many movies
While shooting a bad guy, throwing a gun to his partner who is out of bullets, and getting a bead on the last bad guy.
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Bob Dillon Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:34:29am |
re: #42 Russkilitlover
These are fed charges, right? Sooo, a pardon could happen.
Dang - Chicago is so slimy, corrupt, and despicable it can't HELP but bring out the conspiracy theorist in me!
Anyone thinking that this is an isolated incident is just plain naive.
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mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:34:34am |
re: #177 Russkilitlover
Now you've got a ready reply to any MSM article that leaves out that little factoid.
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Mich-again Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:34:37am |
OMG. This is unbelievable. Bleepjevich sets a new standard for the lowlife scumbag. Crapping all over the One's moment of glory too. But what is odd is why he felt so comfortable acting like a gangsta. How long has he been at that? He's probably been a conniving punk ever since he was on student council back in middle school.
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MJBrutus Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:15am |
5 will get you 10 that the ONE comes out of this smelling like a rose. Fact is, on this particular, Bambi probably does have his hands clean. It sounds as though he turned Blago down for the cushy HHS job. But either way, it doesn't matter. His hands are filthy with Rezko dealings and a whole lot of other good, clean, Chitown political fun. To quote his buddy, he's "guilty as hell and free as a bird." But what's past is past and inauguration day is a month off.
I hope that Republicans see which way the wind is blowing and keep their yaps shut on this stuff. They should just go ahead and let Patrick "I love Scooter" Fitzgerald do his thing. The public will sour on the ONE in about a year after they figure out that his water in to wine schtick was just a gag using sleight of hand and food coloring. That's when the fun can begin.
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Tumulus11 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:19am |
'I've got this thing and it's *** golden.
I'm just not givin' it up for *** nothin'.
I'm not going to do it. I can always use it.
I can parachute me there.'
. Prediction for 2009:
Gov. B. will parachute into federal prison where he will be probed by aliens.
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davinvalkri Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:20am |
re: #177 Russkilitlover
Pfff...heh heh. If the media actually reference this guy's political party, shall we make it a flying pig moment?
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Big Steve Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:23am |
Anybody know the constitutionality here. If Balgojevich is under indictment but not impeached does he still get to appoint the next Illinois senator?
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:25am |
re: #181 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
All I can say is *BLEEP*
That does seem to be the word of the day. I loved how Fitzgerald kept clarifying that the actual word used was not "bleep". Dude, we get it.
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:27am |
re: #159 Big Steve
I read what I could on this and to be honest, I think the wiretaps sort of exonerate Obama. Blagojevich even gripes that the One would not play ball. Anyone else see it this way?
No. I see it as Obama wanted to play hardball to get what he wanted. It's the way it's done here. Blago was pissed that he might be getting stiffed in the corruption.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:30am |
re: #180 Silhouette
While shooting a bad guy, throwing a gun to his partner who is out of bullets, and getting a bead on the last bad guy.
"Take him."
POP
Great scene.
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Russkilitlover Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:41am |
re: #176 Walter L. Newton
No proof of that yet. Nothing in the charges and material released indicated any Obama connection.
Let's not sound like KosKid with our own version of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Sure. Because it's so much better to be like the Republicans and take scandals on the chin, lose seats, lose power, and just whimper into a corner and then try to take the high road when a Dem is in the brief spotlight. Yeah, that's worked out well.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:45am |
But does it really matter? Come January Obama will be the President, He can pardon Blago and give the keys to the Treasury to Daley and there is nothing that will be done about it. Obama will not be impeached.
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father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:36:14am |
re: #184 Mich-again
OMG. This is unbelievable. Bleepjevich sets a new standard for the lowlife scumbag. Crapping all over the One's moment of glory too. But what is odd is why he felt so comfortable acting like a gangsta. How long has he been at that? He's probably been a conniving punk ever since he was on student council back in middle school.
Are you saying he's been Prince-like his whole life?
now channeling Niccolò
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:36:17am |
re: #179 Walter L. Newton
Then I will say the same thing to you as I said to Vapig...
No proof of that yet. Nothing in the charges and material released indicated any Obama connection.
Let's not sound like KosKid with our own version of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Yes, you do have a very good point. That's why I qualified my original. Perhaps I should have kept it to myself for the moment.
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:36:18am |
re: #184 Mich-again
OMG. This is unbelievable. Bleepjevich sets a new standard for the lowlife scumbag. Crapping all over the One's moment of glory too. But what is odd is why he felt so comfortable acting like a gangsta. How long has he been at that? He's probably been a conniving punk ever since he was on student council back in middle school.
Bleepjevich-I love it!
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:36:43am |
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:37:16am |
re: #193 lifeofthemind
Come January Obama will be the President, He can pardon Blago and give the keys to the Treasury to Daley
No, he really wouldn't dare. Let's keep some perspective here.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:37:18am |
This guy redefines chutzpah. Did he really think he would get away with it?
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Kragar Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:37:23am |
re: #189 livefreeor die
That does seem to be the word of the day. I loved how Fitzgerald kept clarifying that the actual word used was not "bleep". Dude, we get it.
Actually, I did say *BLEEP*, but thats just me.
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:37:34am |
re: #188 Big Steve
Anybody know the constitutionality here. If Balgojevich is under indictment but not impeached does he still get to appoint the next Illinois senator?
Under Illinois law, as amazing as it seems, the gov can still appoint while under indictment. Remember, jail time is a job hazard for politicians who hail from Chicago.
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Big Steve Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:38:20am |
re: #200 Boxy_brown
Not the Blagojevich I
knewblew...
sorry had to make the change so I will now slink away.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:38:24am |
re: #192 Russkilitlover
Sure. Because it's so much better to be like the Republicans and take scandals on the chin, lose seats, lose power, and just whimper into a corner and then try to take the high road when a Dem is in the brief spotlight. Yeah, that's worked out well.
Fine, what ever yanks your crank. I prefer looking at this critically and not make suppositions that are not yet evident.
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reloadingisnotahobby Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:38:28am |
re: #173 DaddyG
That goes for me too!
Utah's Gov wouldn't say "shit" if he had a mouth full!
Ill...?He a fucking potty mouth!
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:38:35am |
re: #153 father_of_10
Does that self-censoring mean that she is in fear of getting banned? No? Maybe just too civilized to let it all hang out.
I've never know Miss Mandy to be shy about what she thinks and she'll usually tell it like it is.
I just found this case amusing enough to comment on it.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:38:39am |
re: #189 livefreeor die
That does seem to be the word of the day. I loved how Fitzgerald kept clarifying that the actual word used was not "bleep". Dude, we get it.
WE do?
I don't.
What's "bleep" signify?
Huh?
/sarc! ... SARC!
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:38:49am |
re: #179 Walter L. Newton
You are far more optimistic and less cynical about Obama than I am. Maybe that comes from 29 years of having seen this shit up close and personal. Obama's in the corruption up to his eyeballs.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:38:58am |
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:38:59am |
re: #204 Honorary Yooper
Under Illinois law, as amazing as it seems, the gov can still appoint while under indictment. Remember, jail time is a job hazard for politicians who hail from Chicago.
Would anyone accept the nomination under those circumstances? I'd think it would open them up to being investigated with a fine tooth comb as well but it is Chicago.
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father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:39:15am |
In democracy it's your vote that counts. In feudalism it's your count that votes.
In Illinois, it's . . .
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Mich-again Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:39:26am |
Someone was bound to do it..
Illinois Senate Seat for sale on eBay.
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Forever Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:39:33am |
I am sorry to go Off Topic, but the controversial film of Ehsan Jami (ex-Muslim and resident of The Netherlands) has been released today. To be seen here - click.
Will it cause as much upheaval as Wilders' Fitna did?
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Rancher Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:39:38am |
Fitzgerald calls it “a political corruption crime spree.”
I call it "The Chicago way". Is Illinois more corrupt than Louisiana?
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sawblade88 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:39:43am |
re: #159 Big Steve
Perhaps so in this case. However, if Blago has anything on 0, then he has a bargaining chip. This could get interesting.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:39:47am |
re: #202 MandyManners
This guy redefines chutzpah. Did he really think he would get away with it?
No, this guy define "American politician."
(I know, I'm getting stale pushing this point, well, what can I say, the truth hurts)
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SWPaul Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:39:50am |
There was no immediate comment from the office of the president-elect.
Well of course! It takes time to shred documents! I wonder how far this did go though... I'll be very interested over the next few days.
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:39:52am |
re: #202 MandyManners
This guy redefines chutzpah. Did he really think he would get away with it?
Unfortunately, you're assuming he won't. Obama has a pardon pen and I don't believe he'll be afraid to use it. Again, assuming Blago is convicted.
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Sharmuta Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:39:57am |
Yooper- does no one in the Illinois democrats care about this? They're not going to pressure Blago to resign?
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:02am |
re: #213 father_of_10
In democracy it's your vote that counts. In feudalism it's your count that votes.
In Illinois, it's . . .
"bring out your dead..." to vote.
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:05am |
re: #214 Mich-again
Someone was bound to do it..
Illinois Senate Seat for sale on eBay.
Is that for real? Funny.
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Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:09am |
re: #188 Big Steve
Anybody know the constitutionality here. If Balgojevich is under indictment but not impeached does he still get to appoint the next Illinois senator?
I read that he can make the appointment from prison.
Which is mad.
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father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:11am |
re: #208 vapig
I've never know Miss Mandy to be shy about what she thinks and she'll usually tell it like it is.
I just found this case amusing enough to comment on it.
She was using her manners. How charming.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:16am |
Could "bleep" be a rotating title?
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No. Just, no. Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:21am |
Ralph's soap bar? I have it. Just ask my sons.
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opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:27am |
The Chicago Machine heads East to D.C.
If anyone doubts that, Obama was tutored in politics by IL Senate President, Emile Jones & State Senator DiLeo.
His ethics mentor was Tony Rezko. There is no way that Obama is clean.
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:35am |
re: #219 SWPaul
Well of course! It takes time to shred documents! I wonder how far this did go though... I'll be very interested over the next few days.
Hillary can give him some pointers about shredding and hiding documents in your personal quarters.
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:36am |
re: #214 Mich-again
Someone was bound to do it..
Illinois Senate Seat for sale on eBay.
LOL! It's up over $116 now.
| 231 |
Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:46am |
re: #176 Walter L. Newton
No proof of that yet. Nothing in the charges and material released indicated any Obama connection.
Let's not sound like KosKid with our own version of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Is it really unreasonable to suspect that a Chicago politician who has magically had nearly every serious political opponent removed from the ballot for him might have connections to corruption? Are you really going to spend your time here tying yourself in knots defending what we "don't know" about Obama? Seriously, thanks to a complicit press, what we "don't know about Obama" could probably fill the Library of Congress, which is a problem unto itself. Call me crazy, but I don't think speculating that one of Tony Rezko's best buddies might have links to corruption is beyond the pale.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:46am |
re: #179 Walter L. Newton
No proof of that yet.
We're not talking about convicting him. We're speculating, that's all. And, look, with the Rezko connection (already known)... okay, we don't see the fire yet, but there's smoke.
By the way, I actually HOPE Obama is squeaky clean. Really.
| 233 |
Mich-again Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:49am |
Obama better put the snow tires on the bus before ne tries to run over that hair helmet.
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mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:53am |
re: #188 Big Steve
Anybody know the constitutionality here. If Balgojevich is under indictment but not impeached does he still get to appoint the next Illinois senator?
See, now, this is a good question.
I would imagine that all of his executive authority is gone as of right now.
(As of his arrest.) But I could be wrong.
No impeachment has taken place.
Hm.
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:56am |
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:57am |
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Zippy_Slug Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:40:59am |
Really.. A corrupt democrat from Illinois? That's just not possible!
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Erik The Red Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:41:03am |
re: #208 vapig
I've never know Miss Mandy to be shy about what she thinks and she'll usually tell it like it is.
I just found this case amusing enough to comment on it.
Mandy is not afraid of anyone and that includes Charles. She will respect but scared no. Tel em Mandy.
| 239 |
Big Steve Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:41:14am |
| 240 |
Son of the Black Dog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:41:16am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:41:42am |
re: #214 Mich-again
Someone was bound to do it..
Illinois Senate Seat for sale on eBay.
ROFLMAO!
THANKS!
| 242 |
livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:41:47am |
re: #230 Honorary Yooper
LOL! It's up over $116 now.
Only $116?!?! It's bleeping worth more than that. They're not bleeping giving it away!
| 243 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:41:47am |
re: #218 Walter L. Newton
No, this guy define "American politician."
Um... no. This is not normal behavior for an American politician. If it were, he wouldn't be under arrest. We aren't Nigeria, really we aren't.
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:41:49am |
re: #221 Sharmuta
Yooper- does no one in the Illinois democrats care about this? They're not going to pressure Blago to resign?
Some are pressuring him to resign, including Jesse White, Sec. of State, Dan Hynes, Comptroller, and several in the General Assembly.
| 245 |
razorbacker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:41:59am |
Is there a 'perp walk'? Will he have an overcoat over his head?
Or will he walk proud and unrepentant, snarling, "It's the Chicago way, suckahs?"
I gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling knowing that we've managed to elect a Chicago Machine Pol to POTUS. I'm sure that He, at least, is a pure as the driven slush.
| 246 |
Rancher Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:42:05am |
re: #192 Russkilitlover
Sure. Because it's so much better to be like the Republicans and take scandals on the chin, lose seats, lose power, and just whimper into a corner and then try to take the high road when a Dem is in the brief spotlight. Yeah, that's worked out well.
Are you saying we should embrace corruption?
| 247 |
blangwort Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:42:09am |
re: #14 jcm
I wonder what will fall out of if Blago decides to sing for a deal?
I don't think the Feds will put up with that. It might implicate their future boss.
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opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:42:17am |
re: #210 Honorary Yooper
You are far more optimistic and less cynical about Obama than I am. Maybe that comes from 29 years of having seen this shit up close and personal. Obama's in the corruption up to his eyeballs.
I second that.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:42:20am |
re: #210 Honorary Yooper
You are far more optimistic and less cynical about Obama than I am. Maybe that comes from 29 years of having seen this shit up close and personal. Obama's in the corruption up to his eyeballs.
Oh, I don't doubt it. Gosh, haven't you seen my posts over the last few months. If there is any Lizard that has NO faith in our whole political system (in the way it has become), it's me.
But, I still prefer critical thinking in these sort of incidents and I don't like to make unprovable accusations.
But, of course, you have a point.
| 250 |
Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:42:47am |
re: #202 MandyManners
This guy redefines chutzpah. Did he really think he would get away with it?
re: #162 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Has to be taken in the context of Deb's #95 ... "I wonder who he believed had his back."
/someone in (or headed for) a high place?
And, although some are suggesting this kind of discussion is our version of Kos with derangement syndrome, it is strange to me that 0 can walk through piles of this stuff and still come out squeaky clean.
I believe unless we raise the moral and ethical issues and ask the questions that the MSM won't ... it won't go anywhere or get any attention whatsoever!
I'm so tired of corruption disappearing under the carpets (or rugs as the case may be)
| 251 |
Sharmuta Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:42:54am |
re: #244 Honorary Yooper
Some are pressuring him to resign, including Jesse White, Sec. of State, Dan Hynes, Comptroller, and several in the General Assembly.
Well- that's a little reassuring. I mean very little, though.
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father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:43:00am |
re: #214 Mich-again
Someone was bound to do it..
Illinois Senate Seat for sale on eBay.
That is good! Read the comments at Ask the Seller a Question.
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chicagodudewhotrades Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:43:09am |
Boy, days like this make me really proud of my city and state (is 'sarc' really needed?). This is bad. One thing that really pisses me off is that the Gov was trying to shake down Children's Memorial Hospital over on the North side. My dentist used to have his office there, and a cousin got some back surgery there decades ago. It is a first-rate hospital that truly does wonderful work. It was public knowledge that the Gov was a possible Fed target , and yet he continued this stuff anyway. This could eventually take down Pres.-elect Obama, no way he has clean hands in all this. Remember that Agnew got taken down for corruption he did at the state level.
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mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:43:26am |
re: #204 Honorary Yooper
Under Illinois law, as amazing as it seems, the gov can still appoint while under indictment. Remember, jail time is a job hazard for politicians who hail from Chicago.
That is amazing, but where would one find a link to it as a fact of Ill. law?
Thanks in advance.
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opinionated Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:43:27am |
Illinois is a corrupt cesspool but lucky us we've got that unique creature who walked out of the slime without a spec of that corruption to become our President.
Kind of like being in Wright's Church yet floating above all the hate and venom.
That Obama is just magic.
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livefreeor die Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:43:48am |
Bye for now-have to do the daily "picking-up-o'-the-kids" and shuttle them to there various activities. The hubby has no idea what's in store for him when the baby comes. Mwahaha:)
| 257 |
Jay777 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:43:50am |
I know it will shock many of you, but News outlets like CNN, AFP, MSNBC’s First Read Blog, The AP, have mysteriously forgotten that Blago was a Democrat.
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Cavsupream Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:43:50am |
Blago was the one who went over to the Middle East with Jesse Jackson to negotiate our pilot back home.
I wonder how those negotiations REALLY went down...
| 259 |
doppelganglander Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:44:00am |
re: #3 Ward Cleaver
They've got him dead to rights.
The question is, who will do his hair in prison?
| 260 |
Big Steve Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:44:07am |
re: #234 mean Gene
See, now, this is a good question.
I would imagine that all of his executive authority is gone as of right now.
(As of his arrest.) But I could be wrong.
No impeachment has taken place.
Hm.
Yeah I have been wondering about this all morning. Technically Obama's seat cannot be filled till he formally resigns it. If Blagojevich is still governer, which in all likelihood he will be since at this point he is only indicted and not convicted, then there is no constitutional way to prevent him from appointing whomever he wants. However practically speaking what person in their right mind would want his appointment now? It would be the kiss of death.
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:44:33am |
re: #234 mean Gene
See, now, this is a good question.
I would imagine that all of his executive authority is gone as of right now.
(As of his arrest.) But I could be wrong.
No impeachment has taken place.
Hm.
It's still early. Many in the General Assembly are calling for impeachment if he does not resign.
| 262 |
rawmuse Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:44:38am |
re: #253 chicagodudewhotrades
I am somehow skeptical that a (future) largely Democrat controlled Justice Dept. will do the first thing about all this.
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:44:55am |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:05am |
re: #221 Sharmuta
Yooper- does no one in the Illinois democrats care about this? They're not going to pressure Blago to resign?
I just heard that the Daley family, speaking for Richard J. Daley, says former Mayor Daley is appalled at these developments.
| 265 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:09am |
re: #243 Occasional Reader
Um... no. This is not normal behavior for an American politician. If it were, he wouldn't be under arrest. We aren't Nigeria, really we aren't.
Yet.
| 266 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:17am |
re: #218 Walter L. Newton
No, this guy define "American politician."
(I know, I'm getting stale pushing this point, well, what can I say, the truth hurts)
I don't think so.
| 267 |
Bob Dillon Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:20am |
re: #210 Honorary Yooper
You are far more optimistic and less cynical about Obama than I am. Maybe that comes from 29 years of having seen this shit up close and personal. Obama's in the corruption up to his eyeballs.
While not 29 years worth - I can support your comment from personal experience within local government. Unbelievable what goes on. We do not have the resources to go after it all - so as long as they stick to small stuff and don't get arrogant - they will probably continue to get away with it.
| 268 |
father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:31am |
re: #256 livefreeor die
Bye for now-have to do the daily "picking-up-o'-the-kids" and shuttle them to there various activities. The hubby has no idea what's in store for him when the baby comes. Mwahaha:)
Have him email me and I'll tell him all about.
Poor guy.
| 269 |
MJBrutus Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:35am |
re: #255 opinionated
Illinois is a corrupt cesspool but lucky us we've got that unique creature who walked out of the slime without a spec of that corruption to become our President.
Kind of like being in Wright's Church yet floating above all the hate and venom.
That Obama is just magic.
You got it. The first known case of someone lying down with a pack of mangy dogs and getting up without a flea on him.
| 270 |
Russkilitlover Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:35am |
re: #214 Mich-again
Someone was bound to do it..
Illinois Senate Seat for sale on eBay.
LOL! That's funny.
| 271 |
debutaunt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:40am |
re: #230 Honorary Yooper
LOL! It's up over $116 now.
"Return policyThe seller will not accept returns for this item." hahahahahahahhahahahahaaa
| 272 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:43am |
re: #220 vapig
Unfortunately, you're assuming he won't. Obama has a pardon pen and I don't believe he'll be afraid to use it. Again, assuming Blago is convicted.
It would taint the hell out of him.
| 273 |
WriterMom Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:52am |
Charles-check it:
Google is Evil-Google Earth Thought to Have Helped Mumbai Terrorists.
| 274 |
FrogMarch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:53am |
Speaking of CORRUPTION on the DEMOCRAT side - shouldn't Charlie Rengel be getting a knock on the door? *ding dong, law enforcemen*.
My GOD.
| 275 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:57am |
re: #261 Honorary Yooper
That's a ray of sunshine in this story.
I hope he does resign.
THEN he can go to jail, too, if he's convicted.
When is the Rezko sentencing?
Maybe they can still see one another.
| 276 |
nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:46:06am |
NYC Eatery Charges 3 Percent For Food You Waste
[Link: wcbstv.com...]
I don't want to get gross here, but if any restaurant tried that with me, I'd back more than a few of their toilets. But that's just me.
| 277 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:46:12am |
| 278 |
Miss Molly Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:46:12am |
MandyManners -- Yes, I have no doubt that he did think he could get away with this. Not only get away with this but who would dare confront him because he was the Governor!
The ego and arrogance of some of these politicans is breathtaking. I wish he could have a jail cell next to OJ's. The could swap lies.
| 279 |
Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:46:26am |
re: #260 Big Steve
Yeah I have been wondering about this all morning. Technically Obama's seat cannot be filled till he formally resigns it. If Blagojevich is still governer, which in all likelihood he will be since at this point he is only indicted and not convicted, then there is no constitutional way to prevent him from appointing whomever he wants. However practically speaking what person in their right mind would want his appointment now? It would be the kiss of death.
I thought 0 already quit his seat, early. The appointment falls to Blah-go.
| 280 |
Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:46:28am |
re: #264 Walter L. Newton
I just heard that the Daley family, speaking for Richard J. Daley, says former Mayor Daley is appalled at these developments.
Tell me you just made a funny. Otherwise, I have to shut down the irony detector before BLAMMO!
| 281 |
Racer X Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:46:33am |
re: #214 Mich-again
Someone was bound to do it..
Illinois Senate Seat for sale on eBay.
ROFLMAO!
That is great!
| 282 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:46:41am |
re: #272 MandyManners
It would taint the hell out of him.
...and we all know how afraid of being tainted Illinois politicians are.
| 284 |
CIA Reject Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:47:01am |
re: #253 chicagodudewhotrades
Boy, days like this make me really proud of my city and state (is 'sarc' really needed?). This is bad. One thing that really pisses me off is that the Gov was trying to shake down Children's Memorial Hospital over on the North side. My dentist used to have his office there, and a cousin got some back surgery there decades ago. It is a first-rate hospital that truly does wonderful work. It was public knowledge that the Gov was a possible Fed target , and yet he continued this stuff anyway. This could eventually take down Pres.-elect Obama, no way he has clean hands in all this. Remember that Agnew got taken down for corruption he did at the state level.
Spiro Agnew was a Republican, and hence was the target of intense scrutiny in the media.
Not so BO.
| 285 |
opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:47:01am |
re: #251 Sharmuta
Well- that's a little reassuring. I mean very little, though.
He got caught & put the Machine at risk. They are not appalled at his criminality , it is his recklessness
| 286 |
nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:47:04am |
re: #264 Walter L. Newton
I just heard that the Daley family, speaking for Richard J. Daley, says former Mayor Daley is appalled at these developments.
I am sure. Daley probably told him not use a phone!
| 287 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:47:21am |
re: #260 Big Steve
Steve, Obama resigned from the Senate weeks ago!
| 288 |
Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:47:22am |
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:48:00am |
re: #273 WriterMom
Charles-check it:
Google is Evil-Google Earth Thought to Have Helped Mumbai Terrorists.
That's... kind of silly. It's like claiming that Nokia "helped" the terrorists (or whatever brand of cellphone they were using).
| 291 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:48:26am |
re: #288 Right mind left
You HAVE TO go rent "A Christmas Story".. It is a MUST.
It's a classic tale . . . boy meets gun, boy gets gun, boy shoots his eye out!
;)
| 292 |
LilyGecko Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:48:31am |
re: #288 Right mind left
You HAVE TO go rent "A Christmas Story".. It is a MUST.
Love the "bad word" scene with the soap. :) Also, the "happy dinner".
| 293 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:48:35am |
re: #269 MJBrutus
You got it. The first known case of someone lying down with a pack of mangy dogs and getting up without a flea on him.
Not quite true.
Nobody LOOKED!
(Well, the ones who did look and reported on it were ignored.)
He was covered in mange and fleas but nobody looked and saw and said, EW!, No! I'm not going to vote for THAT!
So, he got elected despite his associations and filth.
| 294 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:48:41am |
Harry Truman came from the corrupt Prendergast machine but was personally clean. Obama is no Truman.
| 295 |
vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:48:45am |
re: #262 rawmuse
I am somehow skeptical that a (future) largely Democrat controlled Justice Dept. will do the first thing about all this.
Yep and with the propaganda arm of the DNC the public will largely forget about this and any future "goings on."
| 296 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:48:51am |
re: #264 Walter L. Newton
I just heard that the Daley family, speaking for Richard J. Daley, says former Mayor Daley is appalled at these developments.
re: #280 Lizard by the Bay
Tell me you just made a funny. Otherwise, I have to shut down the irony detector before BLAMMO!
Yes, considering the issues of dead people voting all over Illinois, I thought that this comment would be in line with their politics.
| 297 |
Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:48:56am |
re: #291 gmsc
It's a classic tale . . . boy meets gun, boy gets gun, boy shoots his eye out!
;)
And all the other stuff, Bumkus dogs, turkey, blown fuses...
| 298 |
Sharmuta Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:05am |
re: #285 opnion
He got caught & put the Machine at risk. They are not appalled at his criminality , it is his recklessness
I did say "very little".
| 299 |
Mich-again Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:05am |
| 300 |
Peacekeeper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:16am |
re: #290 Occasional Reader
That's... kind of silly. It's like claiming that Nokia "helped" the terrorists (or whatever brand of cellphone they were using).
She's a well known hysteric.
| 301 |
Silhouette Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:19am |
re: #273 WriterMom
Charles-check it:
Google is Evil-Google Earth Thought to Have Helped Mumbai Terrorists.
At first I thought they meant direct complict help from Google-Earth.
But just that they used it? That's like blaming Rand McNally for Bonnie and Clyde. As little as I like Google, I'd vote not guilty if I was on the jury.
| 302 |
jamgarr Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:25am |
Corrupt Governor to Aide: Well, I see it's time to contract for that big road project. I understand that ABC Company and XYZ Company are both interested. Why don't you put together a recommendation for me to look at.
Aide: Yes, sir, Governor. I'd be glad to.
/Message received - no evidence of criminal intent
What's so hard about that?!
| 303 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:29am |
re: #275 mean Gene
That's a ray of sunshine in this story.
I hope he does resign.
THEN he can go to jail, too, if he's convicted.
When is the Rezko sentencing?
Maybe they can still see one another.
I suspect it may have to go through impeachment. Blagojevich is as arrogant as they get.
| 304 |
Russkilitlover Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:33am |
I'd like to see a story on why Barry thought he could muscle in his personal choice for the Senate seat. It is the SOLE privilege of the Governor. Barry should have stayed out of it completely. But no.
| 305 |
razorbacker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:44am |
Since actually having anything to do with the state being represented is not necessary *cough, Hillary Clinton, cough* let me be the latest to announce my availability for Senator from Illinois.
If selected, I promise not to serve. Heck, I'll promise not even to go to Washington.
What with modern electronics, I should be able to skim more than enough from my comfy home right here.
Let me know what you're offering, I'll send you the bank deposit numbers.
| 306 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:57am |
re: #297 Right mind left
And all the other stuff, Bumkus dogs, turkey, blown fuses...
...bunny suit, licking a frozen mental pole...
| 307 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:50:07am |
re: #278 Miss Molly
MandyManners -- Yes, I have no doubt that he did think he could get away with this. Not only get away with this but who would dare confront him because he was the Governor!
The ego and arrogance of some of these politicans is breathtaking. I wish he could have a jail cell next to OJ's. The could swap lies.
Narcissism?
| 308 |
Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:50:26am |
re: #273 WriterMom
Charles-check it:
Google is Evil-Google Earth Thought to Have Helped Mumbai Terrorists.
NY Nana linked to this earlier, and here's what I had to say:
As long as we're banning Google Maps for "aiding terrorism", we should also (by the same logic) ban the internet, GPS receivers, fold-up maps, and "asking directions", since all of these things can also "aid terrorism".
| 310 |
Miss Molly Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:50:44am |
Is this just kind of "another guy who lived in the neighborhood" for Barry? No one seems to get elected to any high office in Illnois unless they are somehow part of this system. Barry had to have some connection to it or he would never have been elected to the State Senate.
| 311 |
LilyGecko Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:50:47am |
| 312 |
CyanSnowHawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:50:47am |
re: #78 Walter L. Newton
What the hell is that. Is Disney doing a cartoon about Devine and casting Rosie as his voice?
It was just part of a photo spread on a bunch of celebs that Disney should avoid casting in live action versions of their animated classics.
| 313 |
razorbacker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:50:48am |
re: #264 Walter L. Newton
I just heard that the Daley family, speaking for Richard J. Daley, says former Mayor Daley is
appalledterrified at these developments.
Sloppy.
| 314 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:50:50am |
re: #300 Peacekeeper
She's a well known hysteric.
You know about those Canadians and their reputation for operatic emotional states.
| 315 |
Rexatosis Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:51:03am |
Another Democrat indited after an election. It is amazing how Dems time their criminality and arrests to happen after elections while Republicans get themselves busted just before an election. Or so it seems.
| 316 |
father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:51:10am |
re: #291 gmsc
It's a classic tale . . . boy meets gun, boy gets gun, boy shoots his eye out!
;)
| 317 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:51:15am |
re: #276 nevergiveup
NYC Eatery Charges 3 Percent For Food You Waste
[Link: wcbstv.com...]
I don't want to get gross here, but if any restaurant tried that with me, I'd back more than a few of their toilets. But that's just me.
It's a buffet. They have to do something...have you seen what people do?
| 318 |
vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:51:26am |
re: #277 MandyManners
Never saw it.
Either TBS or TNT play it for 24 hours straight staring Christmas Eve and all Christmas Day every year. Check it out - it's a very charming and REAL view into typical Americana in the late 30's.
| 319 |
MJBrutus Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:51:34am |
re: #293 mean Gene
Not quite true.
Nobody LOOKED!
(Well, the ones who did look and reported on it were ignored.)
He was covered in mange and fleas but nobody looked and saw and said, EW!, No! I'm not going to vote for THAT!
So, he got elected despite his associations and filth.
Precisely. But you've forgotten I think, that in politics, perception IS reality.
| 320 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:51:57am |
re: #305 razorbacker
Since actually having anything to do with the state being represented is not necessary *cough, Hillary Clinton, cough* let me be the latest to announce my availability for Senator from Illinois.
If selected, I promise not to serve. Heck, I'll promise not even to go to Washington.
What with modern electronics, I should be able to skim more than enough from my comfy home right here.
Let me know what you're offering, I'll send you the bank deposit numbers.
Are you sure you want to debate against Fran Drescher?
| 321 |
Big Steve Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:51:59am |
re: #277 MandyManners
Never saw it.
played out in the 50's Ralphy about age 10 gets his mouth washed out with soap for dropping an F bomb even though his father uses in around the house in just about every other sentence.
| 322 |
CyanSnowHawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:52:04am |
| 323 |
Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:52:06am |
| 324 |
jamgarr Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:52:08am |
re: #297 Right mind left
And all the other stuff, Bumkus dogs, turkey, blown fuses...
You forgot the Major Award!
| 325 |
Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:52:27am |
re: #296 Walter L. Newton
Yes, considering the issues of dead people voting all over Illinois, I thought that this comment would be in line with their politics.
Ahh, didn't catch the J., as I thought you might have been speaking about the living Richard Daley.
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subsailor68 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:52:52am |
No governor, "Gangs of New York" is not the orientation video.
Moron.
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:52:54am |
re: #322 CyanSnowHawk
If they do Blago will look like Lex Luther.
No, it's natural. Believe me, it is natural, it just looks bad.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:52:56am |
re: #318 vapig
it's a very charming and REAL view into typical Americana in the late 30's.
I've never been clear about when, exactly, it's supposed to be taking place... 30s or 40s.
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father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:53:03am |
re: #306 gmsc
...bunny suit, licking a frozen mental pole...
And then finally . . . You shoot your eye out!
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opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:53:29am |
re: #311 LilyGecko
And Santa.
How about when Ralphie drops the F bomb when he kicks the wheel cover with the lug nuts in it?
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Miss Molly Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:53:31am |
Mandymanners -- Narcissim for sure and being a total crook probably helped get him in trouble as well.
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debutaunt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:53:39am |
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:53:45am |
re: #290 Occasional Reader
That's... kind of silly. It's like claiming that Nokia "helped" the terrorists (or whatever brand of cellphone they were using).
Well I am not so sure. Some of Goggle Earths map are a little to good. May not be thier fault but it still is a problem.
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razorbacker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:53:47am |
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blangwort Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:53:49am |
Gosh, this is so blatant that you can't believe anyone would be this stupid.
I feel sorry for the Dems. Obama's seat in the Senate isn't even cool, and they're already embroiled in a scandal of significant proportion. They couldn't even wait until honeymoon was over.
If this keeps up BHO will have ethics questions swirling around him before he even makes it in to office.
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:53:51am |
re: #328 Occasional Reader
I've never been clear about when, exactly, it's supposed to be taking place... 30s or 40s.
It supposed to take place about 1947-48 or so.
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Rancher Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:54:07am |
Doesn't this implicate Obama?
A 76-page FBI affidavit said Mr Blagojevich pondered getting a Cabinet post or ambassadorship for himself in return for the Senate seat – a position that only the incoming Obama Administration would be able to give.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:54:10am |
re: #282 gmsc
...and we all know how afraid of being tainted Illinois politicians are.
I feel for the decent ones.
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CIA Reject Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:54:21am |
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Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:54:22am |
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:54:42am |
re: #330 opnion
How about when Ralphie drops the F bomb when he kicks the wheel cover with the lug nuts in it?
Ralphie didn't kick it, his father hit it by accident before the F-bomb was dropped.
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razorbacker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:54:54am |
re: #320 gmsc
Are you sure you want to debate against Fran Drescher?
Bring 'er on. Bring 'er on! I'll murderlize da bum.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:54:55am |
re: #333 nevergiveup
Well I am not so sure. Some of Goggle Earths map are a little to good. May not be thier fault but it still is a problem.
They're supposed to deliberately give us BAD maps?!
Come on, folks.
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Peacekeeper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:54:57am |
Scene from the Barackfather:
Blago is on the phone, telling an Obama surrogate that if he's going down, a lot of people are going with him.
Surrogate patiently waits for him to finish, replies with something exculpatory for the FBI to record, hangs up and nods to the hitman.
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LilyGecko Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:55:04am |
re: #330 opnion
How about when Ralphie drops the F bomb when he kicks the wheel cover with the lug nuts in it?
One of my favorite scenes. Ha. It's a favorite in this house during Christmas.
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Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:55:05am |
re: #334 razorbacker
Fra-gi-le. Must be Italian.
HAHAHAaaa, I loved that. OOPS I just don't know what happened to it~~!
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:55:09am |
re: #337 Rancher
Typical Illinois quid-pro-quo.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:55:19am |
re: #336 Honorary Yooper
It supposed to take place about 1947-48 or so.
How to date Ralphie - by his Red Ryder BB gun.
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opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:55:41am |
FNC reporting that Blago made bond on $4,500 & surrendered his passport
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mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:55:42am |
re: #319 MJBrutus
Yeah, I know.
But it was always open to adjustment through fact checking before this last election.
Remember the attempt at an "October Surprise," by CBS with the now-famous throbbing memo?
Under the new 0bama rules that fact would have been ignored and Kerry would have been a shoe-in.
It took three days to get the memo debunking out.
But people listened to reason.
It took less than three days to debunk so much of 0bama's baggage but NOBODY listened to reason.
They ''felt'' he was right.
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:56:09am |
re: #331 Miss Molly
Mandymanners -- Narcissim for sure and being a total crook probably helped get him in trouble as well.
Narcissism made him a crook.
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:56:15am |
re: #344 Occasional Reader
They're supposed to deliberately give us BAD maps?!
Come on, folks.
No, but the point is that some of the new technologies is helpful to bad people who will use it for nefarious purposes.
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:56:17am |
re: #333 nevergiveup
Well I am not so sure. Some of Goggle Earths map are a little to good. May not be thier fault but it still is a problem.
A good map should not be embargoed like an assault weapon just because it's accurate. The idea simply skirts lunacy. Bad guys will use anything at their disposal to be bad. You might as well ban everything that runs on electricity if you're really hell bent on making the world "safer".
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opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:56:32am |
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unreconstructed rebel Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:56:37am |
re: #345 Peacekeeper
Scene from the Barackfather:
Blago is on the phone, telling an Obama surrogate that if he's going down, a lot of people are going with him.
Surrogate patiently waits for him to finish, replies with something exculpatory for the FBI to record, hangs up and nods to the hitman.
What's really frightening is the He is surrounding himself with the same hitmen Clinton used.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:03am |
re: #325 Lizard by the Bay
Ahh, didn't catch the J., as I thought you might have been speaking about the living Richard Daley.
I suspect my humor was too nuanced that time. Yes, I was playing up on the "dead voters" issues and making a funny that the family of former mayor Richard J. Daley (deceased) had made a statement in his name as to being appalled by the governors situation.
Never explain a joke!
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:07am |
Is it the movie with the little blond boy?
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:08am |
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:22am |
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opnion Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:26am |
re: #346 LilyGecko
One of my favorite scenes. Ha. It's a favorite in this house during Christmas.
Our favorite.
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father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:33am |
re: #354 Lizard by the Bay
A good map should not be embargoed like an assault weapon just because it's accurate. The idea simply skirts lunacy. Bad guys will use anything at their disposal to be bad. You might as well ban everything that runs on electricity if you're really hell bent on making the world "safer".
Good assault weapons should not be embargoed like Chinese baby formula.
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LilyGecko Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:33am |
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Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:33am |
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Texas Heathen Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:41am |
re: #290 Occasional Reader
exactly what I thought when I first saw it.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:42am |
re: #340 CIA Reject
...and the Little Orphan Annie decoder ring!
Name the book that the movie was based on...
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:45am |
re: #353 nevergiveup
No, but the point is that some of the new technologies is helpful to bad people who will use it for nefarious purposes.
Yes, of course, but that hardly makes Google complicit. Boeing was not to blame for 9/11.
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CIA Reject Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:48am |
re: #330 opnion
How about when Ralphie drops the F bomb when he kicks the wheel cover with the lug nuts in it?
"The Old Man worked in profanity like some worked in clay or oils..."
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Mich-again Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:58:00am |
Here is a video clip of Blagojevich rationalizing his ties to Tony Rezko by smearing other politicians for doing the same.
When asked if he regretted his relationship with Rezko, the governor said he was not alone in facing “some of the occupational hazards that go along with being in politics.”“We presume and hope that people who are helping us are doing things honestly and forthrightly, and then sometimes there are allegations to suggest that maybe not,”
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:58:02am |
re: #353 nevergiveup
No, but the point is that some of the new technologies is helpful to bad people who will use it for nefarious purposes.
People use Internet romance sites to cheat on their spouses. Ban the sites?
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Wm T Sherman Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:58:03am |
Got a question. If the Governor were considering a cabinet post or ambassadorship for his quid pro quo, how would he get these things without the new president being personally involved?
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Rancher Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:58:13am |
re: #356 unreconstructed rebel
What's really frightening is the He is surrounding himself with the same hitmen Clinton used.
Someones cat will die!
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Peacekeeper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:58:22am |
re: #344 Occasional Reader
They're supposed to deliberately give us BAD maps?!
Come on, folks.
I've advocated for a while now that maps should show Israel at the south pole. Thus Mid East peace would be realized. They all laughed of course. They always laugh...
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father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:58:26am |
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:58:40am |
re: #367 Walter L. Newton
Name the book that the movie was based on...
"In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash"
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razorbacker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:58:42am |
God how I love the Intraweb Tubes.
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:58:59am |
re: #354 Lizard by the Bay
A good map should not be embargoed like an assault weapon just because it's accurate. The idea simply skirts lunacy. Bad guys will use anything at their disposal to be bad. You might as well ban everything that runs on electricity if you're really hell bent on making the world "safer".
These aren't maps but incredibly accurate digital pictures. And anyway, you may or may not have noticed that certain areas are definitely blurred out. So even google does make allowances according to local ordinances or laws.
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Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:58:59am |
re: #371 MandyManners
People use Internet romance sites to cheat on their spouses. Ban the sites?
Hey, people steal money...so ban money!
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:59:23am |
re: #354 Lizard by the Bay
You might as well ban everything that runs on electricity if you're really hell bent on making the world "safer".
Like those pointy kitchen knives! We need to ban those.
(Awaiting my appointment to the British Medical Association or whoever it was that actually proposed such a thing)
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DeafDog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:59:32am |
These are very egregious charges. That said, Patrick Fitzgerald is the guy who indicted Scooter Libby.
...Since we question any troofer who makes a subsequent allegation, is there a reason to question these charges, too?
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:59:49am |
re: #368 Occasional Reader
Yes, of course, but that hardly makes Google complicit. Boeing was not to blame for 9/11.
I didn't blame google just pointed out it can be problematic
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:59:49am |
re: #353 nevergiveup
No, but the point is that some of the new technologies is helpful to bad people who will use it for nefarious purposes.
Bad guys use guns, phones, hardware supplies, the internet, digital cameras, gasoline, and cash money (and that's just a short list)for "nefarious purposes". Once you go down the "banning useful things because there are assholes in the world", the problem isn't what to ban, but where to stop! The best thing is not to start.
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jamgarr Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:00:05pm |
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Silhouette Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:00:10pm |
re: #314 Occasional Reader
You know about those Canadians and their reputation for operatic emotional states.
Emotional provinces.
Geez, don't you know anything?
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Killian Bundy Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:00:10pm |
He should have asked Franken.
/Al would pay good money for a Senate seat, any Senate seat
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LilyGecko Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:00:19pm |
re: #379 Right mind left
Hey, people steal money...so ban money!
What about shoplifting in clothing stores? We could all join a nudist colony!
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Desert Dog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:01:03pm |
re: #370 Mich-again
Here is a video clip of Blagojevich rationalizing his ties to Tony Rezko by smearing other politicians for doing the same.
God, he talks a lot and doesn't say anything. Reminds me of another Chicago politician that talks a great deal without ever actually elaborating on anything.
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:01:07pm |
re: #349 OldLineTexan
How to date Ralphie - by his Red Ryder BB gun.
I'm still thinking it takes place in the late 30's (maybe early 40's) I thought it might be dated to the release of the Wizrad of Oz. Otherwise why have the characters in the Chrismas parade and at the mall with Santa?
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:01:11pm |
re: #379 Right mind left
Hey, people steal money...so ban money!
Some men commit adultery so ban penises!
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mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:01:12pm |
Now Dick Durbin is demanding a special election for this senate seat rather than allowing the Gov to appoint someone.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
He's says he's worried about the possible credibility problems if Blag does the appointment.
Hah, now that's rich!
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OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:01:13pm |
re: #387 ploome hineni
so we have a senator with a "wide stance" in a toilet stall
another senator with $90,000.00 in his freezer
a governor boinking a prostitue, his replacement boinking a gov't employee (?)
a Governor selling a Senate seat
whoo hoo!
The cold cash guy is (now was) a mere Congresscritter from the House.
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CIA Reject Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:01:26pm |
re: #367 Walter L. Newton
Name the book that the movie was based on...
"In God We Trust: All Others Pay Cash" by Gene Shepherd- who apparently was not as wholesome a fellow as you would think...
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Silhouette Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:01:29pm |
re: #386 Killian Bundy
He should have asked Franken.
/Al would pay good money for a Senate seat, any Senate seat
But only what he can steal from the Boys and Girls Clubs.
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nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:01:32pm |
re: #383 Lizard by the Bay
Bad guys use guns, phones, hardware supplies, the internet, digital cameras, gasoline, and cash money (and that's just a short list)for "nefarious purposes". Once you go down the "banning useful things because there are assholes in the world", the problem isn't what to ban, but where to stop! The best thing is not to start.
It already has started. Try pulling up a military installation on google earth. They don't necessarily come in so clear.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:01:54pm |
re: #385 Silhouette
Emotional provinces.
Geez, don't you know anything?
You sound awfully territorial.
/
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:02:01pm |
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:02:04pm |
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Peacekeeper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:02:18pm |
re: #391 MandyManners
Some men commit adultery so ban penises!
When penises are outlawed...
and women love an outlaw.
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Diamond Bullet Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:02:18pm |
re: #337 Rancher
Doesn't this implicate Obama?
A 76-page FBI affidavit said Mr Blagojevich pondered getting a Cabinet post or ambassadorship for himself in return for the Senate seat – a position that only the incoming Obama Administration would be able to give.
Something tells me we're going to see a lot more "middle finger malfunctions" in Obama's upcoming press conferences.
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:02:21pm |
re: #396 nevergiveup
It already has started. Try pulling up a military installation on google earth. They don't necessarily come in so clear.
Actually, I was surprised at how clearly Diego Gaqrcia came up. And Kwajalein for that matter.
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Desert Dog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:02:24pm |
re: #391 MandyManners
Some men commit adultery so ban penises!
Or, ban what the penis wants to buy with the money!
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Catttt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:02:30pm |
Well! Crook County strikes again. Hard to believe this is the same Illinois that President Lincoln came from.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:02:34pm |
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father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:02:39pm |
re: #391 MandyManners
Some men commit adultery so ban penises!
Liberals already have. The whole package, in fact.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:02:52pm |
Somewhere I have an old VHS tape from when PBS re-ran the original Jean Shepherd's America shows. This would have been in '95 or so. And yes, I saw them when they first ran (1971).
| 409 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:03:16pm |
re: #376 Honorary Yooper
"In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash"
Correct... first published in 1966. (did you look that up, a lot of people don't know anything about Shepherd)
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:03:18pm |
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Mich-again Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:03:19pm |
Oh this is nice. From the day after the Presidential Election, Blagojevich discusses his official plans for filling the Senate Seat. Ha.
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Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:03:30pm |
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jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:03:35pm |
re: #310 Miss Molly
Is this just kind of "another guy who lived in the neighborhood" for Barry? No one seems to get elected to any high office in Illnois unless they are somehow part of this system. Barry had to have some connection to it or he would never have been elected to the State Senate.
In IL you have to be "made" to get any where in politics, downstaters can get elected, but not any prime positions.
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jwb7605 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:04:08pm |
re: #349 OldLineTexan
How to date Ralphie - by his Red Ryder BB gun.
I had the Daisy Red Ryder when I was a kid. Wooden stock, saddle ring!
My neighbor's dad did most of the artwork in the Daisy ads.
When I sent her the photoshop that was going around with the model with Sarah Palin's head holding the "assault rifle", she e-mailed me back within 10 minutes correctly identifying the fact that it was a BB bun, and even included the model.
(Neighbor is 62)
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OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:04:09pm |
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:04:15pm |
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Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:04:24pm |
re: #408 ploome hineni
re:#379 Right mind left
his right mind up and left
Or Right mind left elsewhere...
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MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:04:29pm |
re: #410 gmsc
Isn't the proper plural form penii?
Nope. It's either penises or penes.
I've looked it up.
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mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:05:04pm |
re: #401 Diamond Bullet
Something tells me we're going to see a lot more "middle finger malfunctions" in Obama's upcoming press conferences.
OMG!
I had almost forgot about that middle schoolboy ploy!
Yup, I've challenged folks to find 0bama doing that at an innocuous point in a speech... no one can find such an innocent incidence of it.
We're due another one soon though.
And, on the topic of 0bama and news conferences, have any other news groups been blacklisted (they can show but will never be called on)?
| 421 |
Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:05:06pm |
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jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:05:13pm |
re: #391 MandyManners
Some men commit adultery so ban penises!
A Lorena Bobbitt thread!
*sits sideways from MM*
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Russkilitlover Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:05:19pm |
re: #246 Rancher
Are you saying we should embrace corruption?
Absolutely not! But I'd like to see Republicans push the issue of known Democrat corruption - like the guy with the fridge full of cash, and all this stuff oozing out of Chicago. I don't think it's too much to ask to want to see the Republicans actually, you know, FIGHT. Republicans have been pretty good about eradicating known R politicians when they fall, they should be out there pushing the Dems to do the same.
| 424 |
debutaunt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:05:19pm |
re: #369 CIA Reject
"The Old Man worked in profanity like some worked in clay or oils..."
hahahahahhahahahahahahhaaa
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vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:05:27pm |
| 427 |
Jed 1899 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:05:36pm |
It was an Ovaltine decoder ring.
D-r-i-n-k O-v-a-l-t-i-n-e
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Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:05:41pm |
re: #419 MandyManners
Nope. It's either penises or penes.
I've looked it up.
penes butter...and jam!
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:05:56pm |
first it was barney frank and his "call boy" service ...
then it was monica's blue dress and the creative use of cigars ...
of course, there was william jefferson's frozen cash ...
and now governor blagojevich, the biggest crook of all ...
can we expect to see an expose of the "culture of corruption" among democratic politicians on dobermann's show tonight on msnbc?
/ is it even necessary?
| 431 |
Big Steve Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:06:02pm |
For all those quoting "A Christmas Story"...where are they now...Christmas Story
| 432 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:06:24pm |
re: #387 ploome hineni
"Cold Cash" Jefferson was a representative, not a Senator, but, essentially, yes.
How was the doctor's, yesterday?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:06:56pm |
re: #414 jwb7605
I had the Daisy Red Ryder when I was a kid. Wooden stock, saddle ring!
My neighbor's dad did most of the artwork in the Daisy ads.
When I sent her the photoshop that was going around with the model with Sarah Palin's head holding the "assault rifle", she e-mailed me back within 10 minutes correctly identifying the fact that it was a BB bun, and even included the model.
(Neighbor is 62)
Here's a pick of Peter Billingsley thena nd now. He is currently a movie producer and some time actor.
| 434 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:07:11pm |
re: #409 Walter L. Newton
Correct... first published in 1966. (did you look that up, a lot of people don't know anything about Shepherd)
Nope, did not have to look that up. I had seen the book quite some time ago, and its connection to the movie.
Did you know the movie was only in theaters for one weekend because the studio thought no one would go and see it?
| 435 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:07:19pm |
re: #422 jcm
A Lorena Bobbitt thread!
*sits sideways from MM*
What's the difference between Governor Blagojevich and Lorena Bobbitt?
Governor Blagojevich is a slick pricer . . .
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jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:07:46pm |
re: #430 _RememberTonyC
first it was barney frank and his "call boy" service ...
then it was monica's blue dress and the creative use of cigars ...
of course, there was william jefferson's frozen cash ...
and now governor blagojevich, the biggest crook of all ...can we expect to see an expose of the "culture of corruption" among democratic politicians on dobermann's show tonight on msnbc?
/ is it even necessary?
And these clowns what to run the oil industry, the medical industry, the car industry...
| 437 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:07:47pm |
| 438 |
Desert Dog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:07:59pm |
re: #430 _RememberTonyC
first it was barney frank and his "call boy" service ...
then it was monica's blue dress and the creative use of cigars ...
of course, there was william jefferson's frozen cash ...
and now governor blagojevich, the biggest crook of all ...can we expect to see an expose of the "culture of corruption" among democratic politicians on dobermann's show tonight on msnbc?
/ is it even necessary?
No, we'll only hear about Sen. Stevens and Sen. Craig from the left...these guys, they're nothing..pay no attention, move along, nothing to see here...
| 439 |
Catttt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:08:02pm |
I have to say - US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald is an attractive fellow. Jennifer Letzkus is a lucky woman, imho. (They were married last year - she is a Head Start teacher.)
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:08:03pm |
re: #431 Big Steve
For all those quoting "A Christmas Story"...where are they now...Christmas Story
Billingsley served as executive producer on director Favreau's Iron Man feature film; he also acted in the film, playing a scientist who works for Obadiah Stane.
| 441 |
Son of the Black Dog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:08:07pm |
re: #344 Occasional Reader
They're supposed to deliberately give us BAD maps?!
Come on, folks.
During the Cold War, the Soviets published maps with important locations deliberately misplaced.
/like we didn't have U-2 photos
| 442 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:08:07pm |
re: #391 MandyManners
Some men commit adultery so ban penises!
Or at least make each one detachable, so it can be left at home whenever the man fears it might get him in trouble.
| 443 |
3 wood Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:08:23pm |
Another interesting angle onthe Blago situation.
Mrs. Blago is the daughter of a very powerful Chicago Alderman named Dick Mell.
Dick Mell cannot stand his son in law.
Dick Mell will also not want to see his daughter go tothe slam, and end up raising his grandkids.
Something tells me that right about now Dick Mell is on the phone to his daughter convincing her to testify agaisnt her husband for a clean walk for herself.
| 444 |
nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:08:48pm |
re: #402 Lizard by the Bay
Actually, I was surprised at how clearly Diego Gaqrcia came up. And Kwajalein for that matter.
Sometimes I am surprised also. Also ever notice how many GPS don't work either on a secured facility?
| 445 |
jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:09:04pm |
re: #435 gmsc
What's the difference between Governor Blagojevich and Lorena Bobbitt?
Governor Blagojevich is a slick pricer . . .
Thanks... cleaning lunch off my keyboard... monitors... desk...
ROFL!
| 446 |
angryconservative Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:09:06pm |
I am shocked, shocked to hear that there is corruption in Illinois! ROFLOL
And the only guy with a worse looking rug is Sam Donaldson at ABC. His looks like a dead raccoon..
| 447 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:09:08pm |
Fox has CBBHO's statement. He's saddened and sobered by the news but he won't comment since it's an on-going investigation.
| 448 |
lawhawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:09:16pm |
re: #393 OldLineTexan
The cold cash guy is (now was) a mere Congresscritter from the House.
He's a former Congresscritter. He lost reelection last weekend.
OT:
Larry "Wide Stance" Craig, (R) lost his appeal.
| 449 |
razorbacker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:09:29pm |
re: #390 vapig
I'm still thinking it takes place in the late 30's (maybe early 40's) I thought it might be dated to the release of the Wizrad of Oz. Otherwise why have the characters in the Chrismas parade and at the mall with Santa?
Consider the car. Was that a 30s model car or a 40s model car?
| 450 |
nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:09:49pm |
re: #443 3 wood
Another interesting angle onthe Blago situation.
Mrs. Blago is the daughter of a very powerful Chicago Alderman named Dick Mell.
Dick Mell cannot stand his son in law.
Dick Mell will also not want to see his daughter go tothe slam, and end up raising his grandkids.
Something tells me that right about now Dick Mell is on the phone to his daughter convincing her to testify agaisnt her husband for a clean walk for herself.
Ain't' politics grand!
| 451 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:10:01pm |
re: #442 Dianna
Or at least make each one detachable, so it can be left at home whenever the man fears it might get him in trouble.
*snicker*
| 452 |
Bob Dillon Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:10:12pm |
re: #387 ploome hineni
so we have a senator with a "wide stance" in a toilet stall
another senator with $90,000.00 in his freezer
a governor boinking a prostitue, his replacement boinking a gov't employee (?)
a Governor selling a Senate seat
whoo hoo!
And that's just warm-ups ...
Google from a city where I had personal experience. Tip of the iceberg.
[Link: www.google.com...]
How you feeling?
| 453 |
Catttt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:10:13pm |
re: #442 Dianna
Or at least make each one detachable, so it can be left at home whenever the man fears it might get him in trouble.
I remember reading a story about that - lost penis and iirc a flea market were involved.
| 454 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:10:15pm |
re: #443 3 wood
Another interesting angle onthe Blago situation.
Mrs. Blago is the daughter of a very powerful Chicago Alderman named Dick Mell.
Dick Mell cannot stand his son in law.
Dick Mell will also not want to see his daughter go tothe slam, and end up raising his grandkids.
Something tells me that right about now Dick Mell is on the phone to his daughter convincing her to testify agaisnt her husband for a clean walk for herself.
Yep, Dick Mel is not a happy camper right now. He has also been referred to as "Dr. Frankenstein" for his role in getting Blago elected as governor, and thus, creating the monster.
| 455 |
Desert Dog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:10:16pm |
re: #442 Dianna
Or at least make each one detachable, so it can be left at home whenever the man fears it might get him in trouble.
Did someone say Detachable Penis?
| 457 |
vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:10:19pm |
re: #427 Jed 1899
It was an Ovaltine decoder ring.
D-r-i-n-k O-v-a-l-t-i-n-e
No - it was a Little Orphan Annie decoder ring. Ovaltine was the sponsor. That's why the kid was so annoyed when he was trying to save Annie and got a "crummy commercial," instead.
| 458 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:10:23pm |
re: #448 lawhawk
He's a former Congresscritter. He lost reelection last weekend.
OT:
Larry "Wide Stance" Craig, (R) lost his appeal.
Hence my use of "is (now was)" in my statement.
| 459 |
lawhawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:10:38pm |
re: #447 MandyManners
Fox has CBBHO's statement. He's saddened and sobered by the news but he won't comment since it's an on-going investigation.
Well, that's to be expected. Looks like Obama may wield that pardon power quite a bit in coming years... /
| 460 |
3 wood Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:10:38pm |
| 461 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:10:47pm |
re: #443 3 wood
You might be right.
Read this:
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Illinois First Lady Prominent
in FBI Affidavit Charging Governor
One sentence:
The first lady was not arrested Tuesday, but federal prosecutors nevertheless allege that she was engaged in the governor's attempts to sell Barack Obama's U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder ...
| 462 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:10:48pm |
re: #446 angryconservative
I am shocked, shocked to hear that there is corruption in Illinois! ROFLOL
A lot of this would be prevented if parents still made their kids take accordion lessons!
| 463 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:11:04pm |
re: #445 jcm
Thanks... cleaning lunch off my keyboard... monitors... desk...
ROFL!
Alternate answer: The evidence against Governor Blagojevich will stand up in court!
| 464 |
rumcrook Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:11:17pm |
I had to drive from to denver this morning and it was almost 3 hours to my destination so I listened to 3 different radio stations am and fm, and the story of his arrest came on every news cycle, not one station mentioned he was a democrap!
I didnt even know the guy! but after hearing the news a couple times and them never saying whether he was a dem or a republican I new right away he was a democrap.
it has just become obvious to me, even a given, I instantly assume the politician is a democrap if they dont say what party affiliation they have.
repost
| 465 |
jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:11:36pm |
re: #442 Dianna
Or at least make each one detachable, so it can be left at home whenever the man fears it might get him in trouble.
| 466 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:11:48pm |
re: #455 Desert Dog
Did someone say Detachable Penis?
LOL! We used to play this a lot on the student-run FM radio station on campus.
| 467 |
Silhouette Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:12:11pm |
Wiki says A Christmas Story was set in 1940.
| 468 |
CyanSnowHawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:12:13pm |
re: #390 vapig
I'm still thinking it takes place in the late 30's (maybe early 40's) I thought it might be dated to the release of the Wizrad of Oz. Otherwise why have the characters in the Chrismas parade and at the mall with Santa?
It was definitely post-WWII.
| 469 |
Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:12:16pm |
re: #459 lawhawk
Well, that's to be expected. Looks like Obama may wield that pardon power quite a bit in coming years... /
Yep, they're all rehabilitated!
/
| 470 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:13:02pm |
So I checked; and yes, the search term "area 51 nevada" actually gives you a location on Google Maps, with nice, clear satellite pics of an apparent air base. Kind of funny.
| 471 |
Bob Dillon Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:13:17pm |
re: #439 Cattt
I have to say - US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald is an attractive fellow. Jennifer Letzkus is a lucky woman, imho. (They were married last year - she is a Head Start teacher.)
I was impressed by the lack of umms and uhs when he spoke.
| 472 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:13:18pm |
| 473 |
SpringheelJack Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:13:22pm |
re: #167 opnion
His wife patti is a real estate agent. She is veeery successful.
One of her business associates was Tony Rezko, not that there's anything wrong with that.
An interesting connection. One could launder payoff money to the Gov by doing business with the wife.
I think Rezko is the key here.
| 474 |
CyanSnowHawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:13:28pm |
re: #391 MandyManners
Some men commit adultery so ban penises!
They can have it when they pry it from my cold dead hands.
| 476 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:14:05pm |
| 477 |
Right mind left Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:14:07pm |
re: #470 Occasional Reader
So I checked; and yes, the search term "area 51 nevada" actually gives you a location on Google Maps, with nice, clear satellite pics of an apparent air base. Kind of funny.
And flashing arrows?
| 478 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:14:21pm |
re: #453 Cattt
I remember reading a story about that - lost penis and iirc a flea market were involved.
Yep.
I woke up this morning with a bad hangover,
and my penis was missing.
| 479 |
FrogMarch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:14:21pm |
with the democrats it's ALL about PAY TO PLAY. Just ask Nancy Pelosi. Just ask the Union king pins.
| 480 |
Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:14:30pm |
re: #444 nevergiveup
Sometimes I am surprised also. Also ever notice how many GPS don't work either on a secured facility?
Haven't been to any secured facility with a GPS unit before. Still, I would find it ironic if GPS didn't work in the two facilities I mentioned, since they house two of the three terrestrial antennas that make the damn GPS system work in the first place.
| 481 |
avanti Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:14:34pm |
From the Fox web site:
"Nothing in the court papers suggested Obama had any part in the discussion.
In fact, Blagojevich allegedly said in the same conversation that Obama most likely would not appoint him as secretary of health and human services or to an ambassadorship because of the negative publicity that has surrounded the governor for three years.
One day later, according to the affidavit, Blagojevich allegedly told an associate he knew Obama wanted a specific Senate candidate but "they're not going to give me anything except appreciation."
He finished the remark with an expletive."
| 482 |
Mich-again Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:14:45pm |
Quote from Blagojevich from that You Tube clip I posted in 411.
"..While there is no specific deadline, I would say around New Years would be as late as we'd go and my hope would be able to be in a position to make a final decision and announcement sometime hopefully before Christmas but I don't want to overpromise that because there could be some circumstances and factors that deveop. "
Indeed.
| 483 |
baldaiz Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:15:49pm |
It is amazing that anybody would even question that this is wrong! They are from Chicago, and this is the State of Illinois! Isn't this where the dead keep voting?
| 484 |
Catttt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:15:50pm |
| 485 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:16:04pm |
re: #466 Honorary Yooper
LOL! We used to play this a lot on the student-run FM radio station on campus.
Who are/were these kids. I was trying to ID the keyboard. It was certainly analog (I think he had two, a small combo organ and probably a mini-moog on top).
I was surprised to hear these young ones using an analog organ. A lot of seasoned musicians are going back to analog sounds versus the digital.
| 486 |
jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:16:11pm |
re: #464 rumcrook
I had to drive from to denver this morning and it was almost 3 hours to my destination so I listened to 3 different radio stations am and fm, and the story of his arrest came on every news cycle, not one station mentioned he was a democrap!
I didnt even know the guy! but after hearing the news a couple times and them never saying whether he was a dem or a republican I new right away he was a democrap.
it has just become obvious to me, even a given, I instantly assume the politician is a democrap if they dont say what party affiliation they have.repost
MSM style book regarding corruption reporting.
REPUBLICAN Politician Joe Blow is ...
vs.
Politician Joe Blow, who has helped little old ladies across the street, saved funds for widows and orphans blah blah blah blah blah blah blah is suspected but it's just an unfounded accusation against Joe Blow democrat...
| 487 |
Desert Dog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:16:14pm |
I heard that Gov. Blagojevich can still name Obama's replacement, even if he's in jail! That'll be a magical moment.
| 488 |
vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:16:18pm |
re: #449 razorbacker
Consider the car. Was that a 30s model car or a 40s model car?
Ok - I've looked at several sources and they all agree the time frame is supposed to be either 1940 or "in the 40's."
| 489 |
Peacekeeper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:16:20pm |
re: #476 Occasional Reader
So easy to mock. It's like the language of mockery.
| 490 |
6pat6 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:16:46pm |
Illinois continues to prove it is the political crime capitol of the US, right along with New Jersey and Washington, DC. Corruption run wild. A proud tradition there, apparently.
Oh, and Louisiana, too, although they ARE improving by cleaning house!
| 491 |
lawhawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:16:54pm |
re: #470 Occasional Reader
Hah! That's just the cover story. It's actually a lush lizard lagoon retreat. /
| 492 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:17:04pm |
Was there something about Patterson and an employee? I can't seem to keep up with the scandals. Could someone clue me in please?
| 493 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:17:11pm |
re: #489 Peacekeeper
So easy to mock. It's like the language of mockery.
Come back and I shall taunt you a second time!
| 494 |
3 wood Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:17:44pm |
re: #454 Honorary Yooper
Yep, Dick Mel is not a happy camper right now. He has also been referred to as "Dr. Frankenstein" for his role in getting Blago elected as governor, and thus, creating the monster.
Well, if you read the Federal complaint through, they apparently have her on tape negotiating the the terms and conditions of the pay for play.
She also is tight with Rezko.
Could be a whole lot of nervous folks around.
And yes, folks, for those who are not familiar with Chicago politics, it is this corrupt and sleazy.
The reason why Blago was so open about this is this has been how things go in Chicago for decades. There is no way the thought he would actually get prosecuted.
I used to work in the loop many years ago when I was in college, and when you went into the Cook County court building, you could see the bag men going up and down the hallways with their envelopes. And I mean there was no real secret about it.
The phrase "touch the Judge" spoken about as often as "Cubs lose" in Chicago back then.
| 495 |
Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:17:44pm |
re: #487 Desert Dog
I heard that Gov. Blagojevich can still name Obama's replacement, even if he's in jail! That'll be a magical moment.
Yes, but the Senate doesn't have to seat his pick (and the Dems won't seat a pol chosen from behind bars; they haven't shut down Fox News and talk radio yet).
| 496 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:17:59pm |
re: #491 lawhawk
Hah! That's just the cover story. It's actually a lush lizard lagoon retreat. /
Yes, the alien corpses and technology are at Area Fifty-THWACK..
| 497 |
father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:18:08pm |
Illinois politics is just like chickens crossing the road . . . you know, poultry in motion!
| 498 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:18:13pm |
re: #468 CyanSnowHawk
It was definitely post-WWII.
The original book was set during the great depression (1930's), OZ was made in 38, so it's possible that the production designer of the movie could imagine OZ characters if the movie is set late 39-40.
| 499 |
CyanSnowHawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:18:20pm |
re: #448 lawhawk
He's a former Congresscritter. He lost reelection last weekend.
OT:
Larry "Wide Stance" Craig, (R) lost his appeal.
If he was looking for love in Men's Rooms at airports, I'd say he lost his appeal a long time ago.
| 500 |
6pat6 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:18:25pm |
re: #488 vapig
Ralphie's Dad's car is a 1946 Oldsmobile. Trust me, I live and breathe old iron like that!
| 501 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:18:29pm |
re: #492 lifeofthemind
Was there something about Patterson and an employee? I can't seem to keep up with the scandals. Could someone clue me in please?
As I recall - and it was some months ago - Patterson admitted to an affair with another state employee. His wife knew about it, he said.
One rather cringed.
| 502 |
nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:18:42pm |
re: #480 Lizard by the Bay
Haven't been to any secured facility with a GPS unit before. Still, I would find it ironic if GPS didn't work in the two facilities I mentioned, since they house two of the three terrestrial antennas that make the damn GPS system work in the first place.
It doesn't work on FT. Dix in NJ.
| 504 |
3 wood Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:19:01pm |
re: #461 mean Gene
You might be right.
Believe me, they got her dead bang.
But they can turn her easy.
| 505 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:19:07pm |
re: #391 MandyManners
Some men commit adultery so ban penises!
So when Mandy says *WHACK*, does this mean . . .
| 506 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:19:22pm |
re: #490 6pat6
Illinois continues to prove it is the political crime capitol of the US, right along with New Jersey and Washington, DC. Corruption run wild. A proud tradition there, apparently.
Oh, and Louisiana, too, although they ARE improving by cleaning house!
Correct.
This just continues to prove that American politicians are raked with corruption run wild.
| 507 |
alegrias Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:19:35pm |
Alan Keyes the Republican former presidential candidate & evangelical though preachy Harvard genius, ran against Obama for that same senatorial seat back in 2006 (or was it 2004?). Time has flown!
Wouldn't that be something, to have a righteous Republican in the Illinois senate seat for a change?
| 508 |
notutopia Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:20:19pm |
He has got to be an understudy to Edwin Edwards of La.
I guess he forget to take heed of the part of the lesson...Never do your personal business by phone...Don't get caught, it's hard to get you out once the lock you up in prison.
/
Back to my holiday cookie baking...
BBIAW
| 509 |
Ben Hur Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:20:24pm |
I'm sure Monsieur Obama has never dealt with this fellow before.
| 510 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:20:24pm |
re: #501 Dianna
As I recall - and it was some months ago - Patterson admitted to an affair with another state employee. His wife knew about it, he said.
One rather cringed.
Maybe he had detached his penis too often, and she had grown distant, yet remained accustomed to a certain level of comfort and prestige, which were obtainable, though at a price, in a cold and loveless civil union of a marriage.
/it was a dark and stormy night
| 511 |
Outrider Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:20:31pm |
Fox stated there had been a legal wiretap in place.
Wonder if that wire tap has anything to do with Rezkos talkfest with the Feds just before the election?
He can't be looking forward to life in prison And being renamed Linda once he gets there. ;-)>
| 512 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:20:36pm |
re: #486 jcm
MSM style book regarding corruption reporting.
REPUBLICAN Politician Joe Blow is ...vs.
Politician Joe Blow, who has helped little old ladies across the street, saved funds for widows and orphans blah blah blah blah blah blah blah is suspected but it's just an unfounded accusation against Joe Blow democrat...
Correction: Joe Blow is the target of a vicious right wing slander and attack machine funded by corrupt corporate interests linked to oil companies, drug companies and the military. And now in a completely unrelated story Joe Blow's wife Mindy spends an hour with our anchor Muffy discussing feeding needy children.
| 513 |
Peacekeeper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:20:44pm |
The US government captured a crashed UFO in 1947 in Roswell New Mexico, and this heavily adapted story is the basis for the movie A Christmas Story.
Bet you didn't know that.
| 514 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:20:47pm |
re: #442 Dianna
Or at least make each one detachable, so it can be left at home whenever the man fears it might get him in trouble.
I've got the perfect company to manufacture those.
| 515 |
yma o hyd Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:20:48pm |
re: #164 mean Gene
Don't you feel sorry for 0bama now?
I mean, he was going to rely on advice from wifey, gramma and Teddy Kennedy.
Then he lost gramma.
Teddy won't be much help for long.
Wifey is bringing mother into the White House so 0bama gets MIL on top of wifey.
Now Blagojevich is busted.
All his Chicago and Ill. associates are naturally under the bus.
All poor 0bama's got left are Clintonistas.
And mother in law.
And he was used to just voting ''present.''
Me heart bleeds for him ... having MIL in the white House must be really really bad!
/
| 516 |
vapig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:20:56pm |
re: #498 Walter L. Newton
The original book was set during the great depression (1930's), OZ was made in 38, so it's possible that the production designer of the movie could imagine OZ characters if the movie is set late 39-40.
Definately prior to WWII and it also explains the cabbage soup!
Do you all realize that movie is 25 years old this year?
| 517 |
Catttt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:21:05pm |
re: #478 Dianna
Yeah. I had to have heard Detachable Penis on the radio. I think there's a program on the weekend that will play anything (usually a lot of Zappa in there, once in a while Don McClean's American Pie)- I can't see the local stations playing this during morning drive time...
| 518 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:21:13pm |
re: #509 Ben Hur
I'm sure Monsieur Obama has never dealt with this fellow before.
He's just a guy who happens to live in 0bama's neighborhood.
| 519 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:21:15pm |
Did Rahm Emanuel drop the dime on gov Blag?
Jack Connaty, of Chicago's Fox affiliate, reported this morning:
We did receive a tip this morning that perhaps all of this came together so quickly because the Governor may have reached out to Rahm Emanuel, the president-elect’s chief of staff, in attempting to leverage filling the Senate seat. And it may have been Rahm Emanuel who tipped the scale and made this move as quickly as it did.
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Isn't ''ThinkProgress" a Lefty site?
Eating their own, are they?
| 520 |
right_on_target Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:21:24pm |
re: #115 Lizard by the Bay
I think comedian Robert Klien had a bit about this. I recall him suggesting that the (relatively) small amount of cash somehow made Jefferson look even more sleazy. If it had been a ton of money, at least he would have looked like a respectable corrupt politician.
___
Jefferson's $100,000 bribe was just the down payment.
| 522 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:21:51pm |
re: #500 6pat6
Ralphie's Dad's car is a 1946 Oldsmobile. Trust me, I live and breathe old iron like that!
And IMDB says the movie is framed as 1940. So, the production designer took what he was able to come up with. This was a lower budget movie, and trying to stick to all the details can get expensive, sometimes they just go with what they can get or afford.
| 524 |
jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:22:16pm |
Ohhh, Obama presser... on radio...
"Ongoing... not going to comment..."
| 526 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:22:33pm |
re: #510 OldLineTexan
That's the sort of thing I refuse to speculate on. How people's marriages work is absolutely none of my business.
| 527 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:22:40pm |
re: #516 vapig
Definately prior to WWII and it also explains the cabbage soup!
Do you all realize that movie is 25 years old this year?
And IMDB says the movie is framed as 1940.
| 528 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:22:55pm |
re: #524 jcm
Yeah, but did he wipe his nose or cheek with his middle finger?
| 529 |
9Iron Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:22:59pm |
Anyone want a local take on the story, I highly recommend the Roe Conn Show on WLS 890. He leans right but is no Hannity or Limbaugh, and is a hell of a lot funnier. It streams here:
[Link: www.wlsam.com...]
| 530 |
experiencedtraveller Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:23:11pm |
Can I sue the State of Illinois for insulting my sense of decency?
| 531 |
FrogMarch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:23:27pm |
re: #519 mean Gene
Did Rahm Emanuel drop the dime on gov Blag?
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Isn't ''ThinkProgress" a Lefty site?
Eating their own, are they?
the left (and the MSM) will be desperate to keep Obama clean through all of this.
| 533 |
Catttt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:23:32pm |
President-Elect Obama - bla bla bla bla bla.
He's good at saying nothing at length.
| 534 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:23:40pm |
re: #500 6pat6
Ralphie's Dad's car is a 1946 Oldsmobile. Trust me, I live and breathe old iron like that!
"The people of Cleveland were incredibly cooperative during filming, donating antique vehicles from every corner of the city. These vintage vehicles helped to enhance the authenticity of the production design."
(IMDB)
| 535 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:23:51pm |
re: #472 Dianna
That's actually a slightly modified quote from "Detachable Penis."
I had no idea there is a song about that.
I learn something new every dat at LGF.
| 536 |
alegrias Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:24:09pm |
re: #506 Walter L. Newton
Correct.
This just continues to prove that American politicians are raked with corruption run wild.
* * *
I don't like the way you say "American politicians" as if corruption is uniquely American.
I don't like people who blame America first, as Jean Kirkpatrick said at her 1980 convention speech.
| 537 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:24:12pm |
re: #530 experiencedtraveller
Can I sue the State of Illinois for insulting my sense of decency?
Just sue on the basis that you're offended by the existence of the State of Illinois. That way, they have to pay you reparations for the rest of your life.
| 538 |
chicagodudewhotrades Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:24:12pm |
I got a question for the lawyer lizards. If Gov. Blago's wife does roll on him to keep herself out of the slam, how much of that testimony could stand up? Isn't testimony involving wife/husband conversations privileged, just like lawyer/client privilege? How does this work in criminal cases?
| 539 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:24:15pm |
re: #500 6pat6
Ralphie's Dad's car is a 1946 Oldsmobile. Trust me, I live and breathe old iron like that!
Funky grille those '46 Oldsmobiles had. Reminds me of Dennis Gage's mustache.
| 540 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:24:39pm |
re: #474 CyanSnowHawk
They can have it when they pry it from my cold dead hands.
I'll not touch that with a 10-foot pole.
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Catttt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:24:42pm |
Press frenzy managed to get one question into P-E Obama.
He knew nothing - nothing.
| 542 |
6pat6 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:25:01pm |
The original book was set during the great depression (1930's), OZ was made in 38, so it's possible that the production designer of the movie could imagine OZ characters if the movie is set late 39-40.Definately prior to WWII and it also explains the cabbage soup!
Do you all realize that movie is 25 years old this year?
There are quite a few post-war cars in the movie. It is supposed to be set in 1948 or 1949. Post-WWII, but pre-Korea. Several of the cars are immediately recognizeable...to me, anyway. There is the carcass of a '31 Model A that the kids walk through. A 1937 Terraplane is parked where Ralphie kicks the bullies' ass. A 1946 REO truck is pulling one of the floats in the Christmas parade. And one of the neighbors has a 1947 Hudson Super Six.
| 543 |
kcladderman Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:25:12pm |
re: #488 vapig
Ok - I've looked at several sources and they all agree the time frame is supposed to be either 1940 or "in the 40's."
Yes that is what I am seeing,1940 in some and in the 40s in others.
| 544 |
Catttt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:25:21pm |
re: #540 MandyManners
I'll not touch that with a 10-foot pole.
Would that be a detachable 10-foot pole? :D
| 545 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:25:21pm |
re: #517 Cattt
Yeah. I had to have heard Detachable Penis on the radio. I think there's a program on the weekend that will play anything (usually a lot of Zappa in there, once in a while Don McClean's American Pie)- I can't see the local stations playing this during morning drive time...
I heard it on a local college station during the early '90s.. One kid DJ just adored it.
He was followed by a girl DJ who played some really interesting folk and bluegrass. I usually would tune in for her, sometimes a little early, and catch that.
Are you by chance discussing the successor to Dr. Demento? Or is it the Dr. himself? I'd have thought he'd have retired by now, but maybe not. I listened to Dr. Demento back in jr high - which is where I learned "Making love in a Subaru".
| 546 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:25:28pm |
0bama almost said ''WE had no knowledge of it..." But he corrected himself and said "I had no..."
This plays into the idea that Rahm might have to fall on a sword for 0bama before he even takes office.
| 547 |
jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:26:03pm |
re: #528 mean Gene
Yeah, but did he wipe his nose or cheek with his middle finger?
A leader would stand up and say...
"The appearance of corruption is not acceptable in politics, I call on Gov. Blagojevich to step down until this case is resolved."
| 548 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:26:19pm |
re: #536 alegrias
* * *
I don't like the way you say "American politicians" as if corruption is uniquely American.I don't like people who blame America first, as Jean Kirkpatrick said at her 1980 convention speech.
You have a point. "All politicians world wide" are basically corrupt.
| 549 |
CyanSnowHawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:26:33pm |
re: #498 Walter L. Newton
The original book was set during the great depression (1930's), OZ was made in 38, so it's possible that the production designer of the movie could imagine OZ characters if the movie is set late 39-40.
I should have looked it up on imdb first. 1940 it is.
The Christmas feast at the Chinese restaurant threw me. I always thought the big popularity in those came after the war.
| 550 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:26:37pm |
re: #535 MandyManners
I had no idea there is a song about that.
I learn something new every dat at LGF.
What does a guy look like when it's detached? Penis de Milo?
| 551 |
father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:26:50pm |
re: #540 MandyManners
I'll not touch that with a 10-foot pole.
And will you stand by that statement?
| 552 |
SpringheelJack Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:26:55pm |
re: #538 chicagodudewhotrades
I got a question for the lawyer lizards. If Gov. Blago's wife does roll on him to keep herself out of the slam, how much of that testimony could stand up? Isn't testimony involving wife/husband conversations privileged, just like lawyer/client privilege? How does this work in criminal cases?
I believe she cannot be compelled to testify if she doesn't want to. If she volunteers, that's another story.
| 553 |
capitalistonstrike Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:26:57pm |
Dear Blago:
Please don't travel by small plane or take any long walks in the woods any time soon.
-a concerned citizen
| 554 |
rumcrook Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:26:59pm |
re: #532 jcm
mmm... I was looking at the object, ...you showed me the negative space around the object.
forgot about them, instantly I remembered most of them had heard of sarah palins daughter being preggers but didnt know who bill ayers the socialist terrorist buddy was.
| 555 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:27:08pm |
| 556 |
Peacekeeper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:27:09pm |
The ship that crashed was later taken to area 51 where it was reverse engineered. Unfortunately the US Goverment was sued in Alpha Century District Court for copyright infringement and violation of the North Galactic Free Trade Agreement article 2 : stealing an intellectual property. The whole thing has been tied up in appeals for sixty years. The lightspeed barrier means that Galactic Court matters can take , on average , over 30,000 Earth years to reach a jury.
| 557 |
3 wood Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:27:23pm |
re: #521 ploome hineni
but Nobama knows nothing
He's Sgt.Schultz now.
Did you go to the doctor young lady?
| 558 |
Desert Dog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:27:28pm |
re: #495 Lizard by the Bay
Yes, but the Senate doesn't have to seat his pick (and the Dems won't seat a pol chosen from behind bars; they haven't shut down Fox News and talk radio yet).
Well, if he picks someone acceptable, they will not care if he's incarcerated, will they?
| 559 |
CyanSnowHawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:27:37pm |
| 560 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:27:53pm |
re: #547 jcm
Yeah, but we already know he prefers to vote ''Present."
So we can figure where he'll be on the spectrum between real leader and faux leader.
| 561 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:27:56pm |
| 562 |
razorbacker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:28:00pm |
re: #503 Iron Fist
Lack of brains. I guess he could have sucked a glass dick on video, like Marion Barry did.
BaWaHaaahaaa!
Long ago and far away, I knew a girl that had one of those glass bongs shaped like a penis. I used to kid her about it, but as she said, "This way I get to smoke the whole joint by myself."
Smart girl, always thinking ahead.
| 563 |
Ben Hur Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:28:03pm |
Mr. Obama, did you know anything about this?
-No.
BREAKING: For the first time in MSM history, questions do not remain.
| 564 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:28:12pm |
re: #535 MandyManners
I had no idea there is a song about that.
I learn something new every dat at LGF.
It's funny the first five times you hear it. After that, it grates.
| 565 |
lawhawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:28:12pm |
re: #531 FrogMarch
Well, everyone who voted for Obama has a vested interest in keeping Obama out of the Blago Black Hole of Corruption, but gravity's a bitch. Everyone and everything has a tendency to get sucked in, and that means that Obama may not be safe no matter what his flacks say.
There's too many connections between Obama and the Blago players to keep Obama clean of the stench of impropriety. Tony Rezko being only the most well known.
It's going to get ugly real fast.
| 566 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:28:18pm |
| 567 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:28:46pm |
| 568 |
Dave the..... Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:28:59pm |
And IMDB says the movie is framed as 1940. So, the production designer took what he was able to come up with. This was a lower budget movie, and trying to stick to all the details can get expensive, sometimes they just go with what they can get or afford.
Overall they did a great job of building sets and filming scenes that could easily pass as circa-1940.
| 569 |
father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:29:16pm |
| 570 |
Desert Dog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:29:41pm |
re: #565 lawhawk
Do you think Obama's 10ft thick teflon will protect him? Or, will he be tainted enough to get hurt on this? (and everything else spewing forth from Chicago these days)
| 571 |
6pat6 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:29:53pm |
re: #549 CyanSnowHawk
I would still say immediate post-war because of the cars and trucks, as well as the music you hear on their radio...all post-war. OZ came out in 1939 and was one of the movies up for Best Picture that year. The frugality of the family (the worn tires, cabbage soup, etc) was prevalent through the Depression and the war years, and much of it carried over later, as well.
I'm sticking with 1946 - 1948 time frame, mostly because of the vehicles. Movie companies are sticklers for getting stuff like that right.
| 572 |
MandyManners Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:29:56pm |
re: #564 Dianna
It's funny the first five times you hear it. After that, it grates.
There's a dirty joke somewhere in there but, I'm tired.
| 573 |
Occam's Beard Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:29:59pm |
Why don't they just move the state capital to Joliet?
| 575 |
6pat6 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:30:30pm |
re: #550 gmsc
What does a guy look like when it's detached? Penis de Milo?
'Bout launched my lunch LMAO with that one!
| 576 |
3 wood Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:30:31pm |
re: #538 chicagodudewhotrades
If Gov. Blago's wife does roll on him to keep herself out of the slam, how much of that testimony could stand up? Isn't testimony involving wife/husband conversations privileged, just like lawyer/client privilege? How does this work in criminal cases?
Not an attorney, but she can't be compelled to testify.
However, she can volunteer to go upthere and sing like a bird.
| 577 |
FrogMarch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:30:34pm |
69. Intercepted phone calls reflect that Rod Blagojevich and John Harris, together with others, are corruptly using and threatening to use the powers of Rod Blagojevich’s office as Governor of the State of Illinois to exert financial pressure on the owners of the Tribune Company, the parent corporation of the Chicago Tribune newspaper, to fire Chicago Tribune editorial board members who were responsible for editorials sharply critical of Rod Blagojevich’s actions as Governor and, among other things, calling for his impeachment...
/big deal. that's normal behavior from the left.
[Link: volokh.com...]
| 578 |
jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:30:50pm |
re: #569 father_of_10
These puns do tend to grow, don't they?
If they go on longer than 4 comments...
see a doctor.
| 579 |
CyanSnowHawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:31:03pm |
re: #540 MandyManners
I'll not touch that with a 10-foot pole.
As long as you laughed, that's enough.
| 580 |
yma o hyd Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:31:41pm |
re: #574 Iron Fist
Watch it. Barry will come out sometime today or tomorrow on the presumption of innocence. I want to know what he knew,and when he knew it.
You may well have to keep on wanting to know all this till hell freezes over ...
| 581 |
Son of the Black Dog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:31:45pm |
re: #500 6pat6
Ralphie's Dad's car is a 1946 Oldsmobile. Trust me, I live and breathe old iron like that!
You're probably correct, although the 1946 cars were almost identical to the 1941 models, the automakers having been otherwise occupied during the war. What likely happened, if the movie is supposedly set in 1940, would be that the filmmaker had a '46 Olds available, and knew that most people wouldn't know the difference.
| 582 |
Who Watches the Watchmen? Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:31:58pm |
The bleeps aren't really bleeps.
Again, the bleep is a redaction.
LMAO!
| 583 |
Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:32:23pm |
re: #558 Desert Dog
Well, if he picks someone acceptable, they will not care if he's incarcerated, will they?
Anyone chosen by Bleepovich is poison now, regardless of the choice. The man is a pariah. The Dems have promised us a "new America" and this guy can't be thrown under a bus fast enough.
| 584 |
father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:32:25pm |
re: #578 jcm
If they go on longer than 4 comments...
see a doctor.
Or if you experience blurry vision.
| 585 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:32:30pm |
re: #576 3 wood
Not an attorney, but she can't be compelled to testify.
However, she can volunteer to go upthere and sing like a bird.
I somehow pictured her as an opera diva, launching into an aria.
| 587 |
CyanSnowHawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:33:17pm |
re: #545 Dianna
I do believe that there are many Dimensions and Dementites amongst lizard-kind.
| 588 |
6pat6 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:33:28pm |
re: #581 Son of the Black Dog
The grille on a '41 and a '46 Oldsmobile, as well as most other post-war cars vs. their pre-war builds, are very easily differentiated.
| 590 |
alegrias Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:34:11pm |
re: #570 Desert Dog
Do you think Obama's 10ft thick teflon will protect him? Or, will he be tainted enough to get hurt on this? (and everything else spewing forth from Chicago these days)
* * *
Anyone else remember the Clintons announced they were going to have the most ethical administration in history?
Anyone else remember how Clinton cabinet members stood around swearing Clinton was the best president ever, after he was impeached?
Clinton II: The Restoration will be 100% teflon! BEST everything ever! No matter how bad things get in this country, dems will swear everything's FINE on their watch.
| 591 |
Dianna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:34:19pm |
re: #587 CyanSnowHawk
I do believe that there are many Dimensions and Dementites amongst lizard-kind.
I stopped listening when I went away to college.
| 592 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:34:24pm |
| 593 |
3 wood Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:34:32pm |
Funny thing, Blago has been busy closing down prisons and laying off prison guards lately to save money.
His room might get a little crowded, and the prison guards might be just too busy to spend a lot of time worrying about his safety.
| 594 |
jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:34:41pm |
Meanwhile in the Franken / Coleman recount...
Minneapolis Gives Up On "Missing" Ballots
The City of Minneapolis announced tonight that it is giving up its search for the 133 "missing" ballots from a Dinkytown precinct near the University of Minnesota. Reactions to the announcement were counter-intuitive; the Al Franken campaign took it calmly, while Norm Coleman's campaign "questioned suspending the search."The Coleman camp apparently thinks that calling off the search is a prelude to Franken's effort to have the results of the hand recount rejected in favor of the tally shown on the precinct's tape at the end of the day on November 4. I'm sure they're right about that; Franken will argue that the ballots are gone, but the best evidence of how they were cast is the contemporaneous record of the tape from the voting machine.
That position is not without logic, but it raises an obvious question: if we trust the tapes on the voting machines more than the results of a hand recount of paper ballots, why are we doing the recount at all? There is no obvious good answer to that question, although the precinct's record of the number of voters tallies with the higher number.
| 595 |
FrogMarch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:35:06pm |
re: #574 Iron Fist
Watch it. Barry will come out sometime today or tomorrow on the presumption of innocence. I want to know what he knew,and when he knew it.
Even if Obama had no part of this repulsive episode, no one can overlook the fact that his political career was incubated in this corrupt environment.
I would be nice to know why Michelle Obama benefited a nearly $200,000 pay increase right after Obama made it in to the Illinois Senate.
| 597 |
nevergiveup Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:35:24pm |
UN Human Rights Council on Tuesday called on Israel to lift its blockade on the Gaza Strip, Israel Radio reported.
In a resolution the body reportedly passed, some one hundred tasks were listed that Israel must do to ease Palestinian suffering, including freeing all prisoners.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
I gonna guess, but I bet they didn't even mention terrorism or firing missles into Israel?
| 598 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:35:43pm |
re: #526 Dianna
That's the sort of thing I refuse to speculate on. How people's marriages work is absolutely none of my business.
It was an attempt at a literary joke.
| 599 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:35:47pm |
B of A and the workers sitting in at the Window and door factory have reached an agreement!
Also in Ill.
I think the last thing I had heard of Gov Blog doing was suspending business with B of A.
And B of A loses!
It will loan the money to the bankrupt company!
| 600 |
alegrias Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:36:41pm |
re: #595 FrogMarch
Even if Obama had no part of this repulsive episode, no one can overlook the fact that his political career was incubated in this corrupt environment.
I would be nice to know why Michelle Obama benefited a nearly $200,000 pay increase right after Obama made it in to the Illinois Senate.
* * *
Nice non-profit job, if you can get it!
| 601 |
CyanSnowHawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:36:42pm |
re: #571 6pat6
I would still say immediate post-war because of the cars and trucks, as well as the music you hear on their radio...all post-war. OZ came out in 1939 and was one of the movies up for Best Picture that year. The frugality of the family (the worn tires, cabbage soup, etc) was prevalent through the Depression and the war years, and much of it carried over later, as well.
I'm sticking with 1946 - 1948 time frame, mostly because of the vehicles. Movie companies are sticklers for getting stuff like that right.
That sounds about right, given the fact checking above. I will go with my previous assumption then.
| 603 |
lawhawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:36:47pm |
re: #570 Desert Dog
Do you think Obama's 10ft thick teflon will protect him? Or, will he be tainted enough to get hurt on this? (and everything else spewing forth from Chicago these days)
Well, it all depends on who talks to save their own skins and their relations to Obama and his camp. Rahm Emanuel may be in for a tough time too. Rezko's name keeps coming up.
What we're seeing is the dark underside of Chicago politics - aka sausage factory. They might make a tasty meal, but you don't want to know what goes into making 'em. We're going to get a crash course on what goes on.
Obama may benefit from the fact that he's such a neophyte. He wasn't around long enough to cash in; Blago was attempting to cash on on Obama's ascension to the Presidency (among other things).
| 604 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:36:50pm |
re: #565 lawhawk
It'll be very ugly, very fast. Obama's in a bit of a pickle right now. If he gets rid of Fitzgerald, he looks complict in Blagojevich's corruption, and looks guilty. It just looks really bad to remove the prosecutor in the middle of the trial. If he keeps Fitzgerald, he loses allies in Illinois as Fitz cleans house. Fitz may even train his sights on Obama.
This was the best possible timing for Fitz to go after Blago.
| 605 |
father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:37:23pm |
re: #599 mean Gene
B of A and the workers sitting in at the Window and door factory have reached an agreement!
Also in Ill.
I think the last thing I had heard of Gov Blog doing was suspending business with B of A.
And B of A loses!
It will loan the money to the bankrupt company!
So now the politicians have blackmailed B of A into making more bad loans.
Gee, this sounds familiar.
| 606 |
Catttt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:37:46pm |
re: #545 Dianna
I heard it on a local college station during the early '90s.. One kid DJ just adored it.
He was followed by a girl DJ who played some really interesting folk and bluegrass. I usually would tune in for her, sometimes a little early, and catch that.
Are you by chance discussing the successor to Dr. Demento? Or is it the Dr. himself? I'd have thought he'd have retired by now, but maybe not. I listened to Dr. Demento back in jr high - which is where I learned "Making love in a Subaru".
I have a feeling it was not the Dr. Demento, though it's always possible I accidentally picked up some college station.
| 607 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:37:58pm |
Enough of this silly, meaningless story, let's focus on the real issues:
| 608 |
Brigman Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:37:59pm |
Blagojevich allegedly told Fundraiser A to tell Individual D that if Senate Candidate 5 is
going to be chosen, “some of this stuff’s gotta start happening now . . . right now . . . and we gotta
see it.” Blagojevich continued, “You gotta be careful how you express that and assume everybody’s
listening, the whole world is listening. You hear me?” Blagojevich further directed Fundraiser A to
talk to Individual D in person, not by phone, and to communicate the “urgency” of the situation.
funny how they always know when they are already being listened too, and they still keep going.
| 609 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:38:24pm |
re: #593 3 wood
Funny thing, Blago has been busy closing down prisons and laying off prison guards lately to save money.
His room might get a little crowded, and the prison guards might be just too busy to spend a lot of time worrying about his safety.
He's going Federal but even in the Connecticut Country Club they move in guys who were in level 3 at one time but who are getting ready for release. It isn't all sticky fingered art dealers and politicians practicing their tennis serve.
| 610 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:38:25pm |
re: #605 father_of_10
So now the politicians have blackmailed B of A into making more bad loans.
Gee, this sounds familiar.
Incredibly bad.
So now workers are forcing banks into giving them cash...wasn't this called bank robbing?
Where will it stop?
| 611 |
lawhawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:38:25pm |
re: #589 Iron Fist
I don't see Obama resigning unless they've got more wiretaps and other evidence that directly ties Obama to criminal acts, and even then it might not rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors according to the Democrats who rule the roost in Congress.
| 612 |
3 wood Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:38:30pm |
re: #570 Desert Dog
Do you think Obama's 10ft thick teflon will protect him? Or, will he be tainted enough to get hurt on this? (and everything else spewing forth from Chicago these days)
The media will work themselves into the ground to protect the Messiah.
Blago will be burned at the stake before they will let The One be touched by this.
| 613 |
DeafDog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:38:33pm |
re: #565 lawhawk
Rod Blagojevich does not seem like the kind of person who will fall on the sward for Obama. If he has mud to throw that could save him, he will throw it fast.
Rod and Rezko should have some interesting stories.
At least now we'll get the straight story about how Obama got the sweetheart deal on his house.
| 614 |
Desert Dog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:38:49pm |
re: #595 FrogMarch
Even if Obama had no part of this repulsive episode, no one can overlook the fact that his political career was incubated in this corrupt environment.
I would be nice to know why Michelle Obama benefited a nearly $200,000 pay increase right after Obama made it in to the Illinois Senate.
Gee, do you think that is related? Not a word about that from the MSM though. That is the way things are done in the Windy City, I guess. Gov. Blagojevich is probably thinking to himself right now, "Hey, everyone else in this town does the same thing, how come I get pinched?" We'll see if there is a price to pay for dragging him into jail...My guess is yes, and a large price at that...
| 615 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:38:54pm |
re: #603 lawhawk
This, along with Levine, Rezko, and Cellini, is the gift that just keeps on giving.
Merry Fitzmas!
| 616 |
gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:39:00pm |
re: #606 Cattt
I have a feeling it was not the Dr. Demento, though it's always possible I accidentally picked up some college station.
| 617 |
Outrider Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:39:01pm |
re: #550 gmsc
What does a guy look like when it's detached? Penis de Milo?
Have Penis. Will travel. ;-)>
| 618 |
Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:39:05pm |
re: #605 father_of_10
So now the politicians have blackmailed B of A into making more bad loans.
Gee, this sounds familiar.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over yet still expecting a different result.
| 619 |
nyc redneck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:39:20pm |
he's a mobster thug. and a dim wit.
trying to get editors fired from the chicago tribune who were exposing him.
like that would make the problem go away.
i wonder when and who will start rolling over on whom in this mess.
| 620 |
CyanSnowHawk Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:40:33pm |
re: #591 Dianna
I stopped listening when I went away to college.
About the same for me, but it was the Army. I remember many Sunday nights with the radio down low so my parents couldn't hear as I listened up to the end of the funny five.
| 621 |
Ben Hur Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:40:41pm |
re: #582 Who Watches the Watchmen?
The bleeps aren't really bleeps.
Again, the bleep is a redaction.
LMAO!
Remember the uproar over Cheney's ONE bleep?
| 623 |
Honorary Yooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:41:19pm |
re: #605 father_of_10
So now the politicians have blackmailed B of A into making more bad loans.
Gee, this sounds familiar.
Well, to be fair, B of A should've taken Federal law in account and negotiated something with Republic Doors and Windows to make sure the employees were notified and taken care of in accordance with the law.
However, I don't take much stock in what B of A says or does. Remember, they were handing out accounts to illegals.
| 624 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:41:24pm |
re: #613 DeafDog
If he has mud to throw that could save him, he will throw it fast.
This just in: President Elect Obama has asked Secretary of State elect Hillary to take Blago for a nice, long walk in Fort Marcy Park.
| 625 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:41:26pm |
re: #606 Cattt
I have a feeling it was not the Dr. Demento, though it's always possible I accidentally picked up some college station.
Dr. Demento.
Now, that takes me back.
"Dead Puppies" was a song he played every night.
And, a guy from our high school kept getting his stuff onto the Dr's show.
Yeah, ''Weird Al Yankowich" got his start pulling fast ones on our teachers in such a way that they laughed instead of getting mad, then he got discovered on Dr. Demento's show.
| 626 |
LGoPs Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:41:48pm |
re: #221 Sharmuta
Yooper- does no one in the Illinois democrats care about this? They're not going to pressure Blago to resign?
Democrats don't resign...they would rather take down the state (or the country) with them. Honorable conduct is a concept that's alien to them.
Say what you will about Nixon - and I'm ambivalent - it was the Republicans who got him to resign for the good of the country...
| 627 |
Catttt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:42:33pm |
re: #608 Brigman
Blagojevich continued, “You gotta be careful how you express that and assume everybody’s listening, the whole world is listening. You hear me?”
Paging Dr. Irony.
| 628 |
3 wood Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:42:35pm |
re: #609 lifeofthemind
He's going Federal but even in the Connecticut Country Club they move in guys who were in level 3 at one time but who are getting ready for release. It isn't all sticky fingered art dealers and politicians practicing their tennis serve.
Good point, I did not think of that.
| 629 |
alegrias Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:42:35pm |
Meanwhile clean legal hardworking Joe the Plumber got browbeat by these corrupt thugs for wanting to GROW his own plumbing business with his own income savings, to meet the demand for plumbing, something Americans need.
Joe the Plumber for Obama's Senate seat. Mr. Joe Wurzelbacher had guts to confront the Chicago machine.
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Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:43:52pm |
re: #623 Honorary Yooper
However, I don't take much stock in what B of A says or does. Remember, they were handing out accounts to illegals.
Come now, it's not illegal to do business with an illegal alien, only to employ one.
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FrogMarch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:44:34pm |
re: #614 Desert Dog
Gee, do you think that is related? Not a word about that from the MSM though. That is the way things are done in the Windy City, I guess. Gov. Blagojevich is probably thinking to himself right now, "Hey, everyone else in this town does the same thing, how come I get pinched?" We'll see if there is a price to pay for dragging him into jail...My guess is yes, and a large price at that...
Obama can do and say whatever he wants. Hi can swim the backstroke in the pool of corruption- the MSM will look the other way.
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Ben Hur Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:44:42pm |
Everyone loves the gift of Big Penis.
-Rome. Season 1.
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right_on_target Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:44:46pm |
re: #490 6pat6
Illinois continues to prove it is the political crime capitol of the US, right along with New Jersey and Washington, DC. Corruption run wild. A proud tradition there, apparently.
Oh, and Louisiana, too, although they ARE improving by cleaning house!
___
Yep, Jefferson's history. $Bill wouldn't even acknowledge Joseph Cao's victory by congratulating him!
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tfc3rid Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:45:05pm |
It was intersting a few minutes ago on Hannity's show... Obama said that 'we' then "I' never spoke with Governor Blago abotu the seat...
However, on a show in CHI a few weeks ago, one of Obama's people said that Obama is always talking with Governor Blago about whom will replace him...
La la la...
| 636 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:45:25pm |
Pendergast from Wiki. Daley and Obama are amateurs by comparison.
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razorbacker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:45:31pm |
re: #609 lifeofthemind
He's going Federal but even in the Connecticut Country Club they move in guys who were in level 3 at one time but who are getting ready for release. It isn't all sticky fingered art dealers and politicians practicing their tennis serve.
Friend of my father did some federal time for rolling back odometers. He said that if he knew how nice it was, he'd have gotten caught long before.
Now state time, that's another story.
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FrogMarch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:45:42pm |
re: #635 tfc3rid
It was intersting a few minutes ago on Hannity's show... Obama said that 'we' then "I' never spoke with Governor Blago abotu the seat...
However, on a show in CHI a few weeks ago, one of Obama's people said that Obama is always talking with Governor Blago about whom will replace him...
La la la...
That would be good to have on tape/youtube.
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LGoPs Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:46:03pm |
There's a classic movie that's one of my favorites The Fall of the Roman Empire with Alec Guinness. There's a scene near the end where Senators are trying to out bid each other for selecting the next Emperor...my thoughts have been drifting of late to that scene...
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razorbacker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:46:07pm |
re: #635 tfc3rid
It was intersting a few minutes ago on Hannity's show... Obama said that 'we' then "I' never spoke with Governor Blago abotu the seat...
However, on a show in CHI a few weeks ago, one of Obama's people said that Obama is always talking with Governor Blago about whom will replace him...
La la la...
Racist!
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Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:46:11pm |
re: #632 Ben Hur
My only role on that show, and it was really just a cameo.
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Outrider Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:46:54pm |
re: #603 lawhawk
Well, it all depends on who talks to save their own skins and their relations to Obama and his camp. Rahm Emanuel may be in for a tough time too. Rezko's name keeps coming up.
What we're seeing is the dark underside of Chicago politics - aka sausage factory. They might make a tasty meal, but you don't want to know what goes into making 'em. We're going to get a crash course on what goes on.
Obama may benefit from the fact that he's such a neophyte. He wasn't around long enough to cash in; Blago was attempting to cash on on Obama's ascension to the Presidency (among other things).
I'd have to dig out my research, but I seem to recall Rezkos calling in the Feds just before the election and singing like the proverbial canary. I also seem to recall the Feds clamping a lid on everything until after the election. I'm pretty sure this latest adventure of theirs ties in with that. Not sure how much more is coming out though.
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tfc3rid Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:47:03pm |
re: #638 FrogMarch
He played it... He had it... Was from Fox Chicago Sunday a few weeks ago.
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Silhouette Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:47:04pm |
re: #582 Who Watches the Watchmen?
The bleeps aren't really bleeps.
Again, the bleep is a redaction.
I think that is sweet, that he resides in a world of such honor that he assumes someone out there might not be sure.
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nyc redneck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:47:46pm |
fitzgerald's tone in this video is so intense.
you can feel the steel like resolve in his voice.
the commitment like a bull dog to see this thru.
he seems livid and barely able to contain himself.
(and rightly so. this is shocking, appalling.)
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Outrider Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:47:57pm |
re: #613 DeafDog
Rod Blagojevich does not seem like the kind of person who will fall on the sward for Obama. If he has mud to throw that could save him, he will throw it fast.
Rod and Rezko should have some interesting stories.
At least now we'll get the straight story about how Obama got the sweetheart deal on his house.
... and the hospital deal.
| 647 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:47:59pm |
re: #641 Occasional Reader
My only role on that show, and it was really just a cameo.
Was it a stretch for you?
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Spiny Norman Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:48:02pm |
re: #573 Occam's Beard
Why don't they just move the state capital to Joliet?
Wasn't there a contest to pick a new state motto (to replace "Land of Lincoln") and "Illinois: Will the Defendant Please Rise" won?
Or has someone already posted that?
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:48:36pm |
Love reading that they used Rahm Emmanuel to drop the shiv in Blago.
He'll make Sid Vicious Blumenthal look moderate. THis is going to be a regime out of the 15th century. Do not expect art to flourish though.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:49:27pm |
re: #648 Spiny Norman
Wasn't there a contest to pick a new state motto (to replace "Land of Lincoln") and "Illinois: Will the Defendant Please Rise" won?
Or has someone already posted that?
When you report to Club Fed, do you have to bring a copy of your nirth certifikit with you?
| 651 |
Outrider Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:49:34pm |
re: #624 Occasional Reader
This just in: President Elect Obama has asked Secretary of State elect Hillary to take Blago for a nice, long walk in Fort Marcy Park.
are there any Interstates being built up there? ;-)>
| 652 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:50:02pm |
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Spiny Norman Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:50:43pm |
re: #642 Outrider
I'd have to dig out my research, but I seem to recall Rezkos calling in the Feds just before the election and singing like the proverbial canary. I also seem to recall the Feds clamping a lid on everything until after the election. I'm pretty sure this latest adventure of theirs ties in with that. Not sure how much more is coming out though.
I think there were several commenters here back then suggesting it was Blagojevich who Rezko was giving up.
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BigDog Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:51:12pm |
Here is a link to the pdf of the Criminal Complaint
Merry Fitzmas !
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chicagodudewhotrades Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:51:17pm |
This isn't really related, but I doubt that Sen. Durbin will be making any more public appeals for clemancy for current jailbird/ex-govenor ryan anymore
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The Other Les Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:51:31pm |
re: #102 livefreeor die
One of the idiot reporters at the press conference asked (along what Blago was saying yesterday) Fitzgerald if wiretapping this scumbag was any different from what Nixon did.
When it comes to journalists I think one has to be hanged once in a while, pour encourager l'autres.
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jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:52:09pm |
re: #635 tfc3rid
It was intersting a few minutes ago on Hannity's show... Obama said that 'we' then "I' never spoke with Governor Blago abotu the seat...
However, on a show in CHI a few weeks ago, one of Obama's people said that Obama is always talking with Governor Blago about whom will replace him...
La la la...
Somebody is lying...
Axlerod...
or
Obama...
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Spiny Norman Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:52:47pm |
re: #652 OldLineTexan
re: #651 Outrider
are there any Interstates being built up there? ;-)>Football stadiums?
Hog farms?
Eww. Sorry.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:53:31pm |
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J'accuzzi Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:54:04pm |
Wouldn't want Patrick on my case. He put away Conrad Black with not much more than a house of cards held together with spider webs and a yokel jury.
Maybe a home town boy like Blago can do better. On the other hand, Obama must be wondering "The jerk couldn't wait 'till I got to the Oval Office to make his play? WTF!"
| 661 |
Spiny Norman Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:56:46pm |
re: #660 J'accuzzi
Wouldn't want Patrick on my case. He put away Conrad Black with not much more than a house of cards held together with spider webs and a yokel jury.
All the more evidence that there was never anything there with "Plamegate".
| 662 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:58:08pm |
Now this is funny. Jonah Goldberg on Blago at NRO:
I know I'm supposed to be outraged, and in a certain sense I am. If he's guilty of all that's alleged, I hope they throw him in the stoney lonesome until the Chicago Cubs win the World Series or 2025, whichever comes second. But in another sense, this is just plain enjoyable. It's like when you watch "Cops" and the idiot burglar tries to hide beside a tree in the dark, even though he's wearing light-up sneakers. It's like when Dan Rather dares the world to prove he's a clueless ass-clown. It's just good stuff. There's no tragedy here. No wasted potential.
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lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:58:38pm |
re: #660 J'accuzzi
Wouldn't want Patrick on my case. He put away Conrad Black with not much more than a house of cards held together with spider webs and a yokel jury.
Maybe a home town boy like Blago can do better. On the other hand, Obama must be wondering "The jerk couldn't wait 'till I got to the Oval Office to make his play? WTF!"
Excellent point. Conrad Black was shafted and so was Scooter Libby. We all know that Blago and the Daley machine are as dirty as advertised but I do not trust Fitzgerald's methods or motives on many levels.
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tappin52 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 12:59:57pm |
re: #387 ploome hineni
so we have a senator with a "wide stance" in a toilet stall
another senator with $90,000.00 in his freezer
a governor boinking a prostitue, his replacement boinking a gov't employee (?)
a Governor selling a Senate seat
whoo hoo!
Geesh...These guys might just give politicians a bad name.
///
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jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:04:38pm |
Until he resigns or is removed Blogo can still appoint the IL Senator to replace Obama.
Last time that happened...Frank L. Smith (November 24, 1867 - August 20, 1950) was an Illinois politician. He served as a United States Congressman from 1919 to 1921. He was elected by the people of Illinois to the United States Senate 1926, but the Senate never allowed him to take his seat.
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redmirabai Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:05:24pm |
Maybe this is all happening now so that in 4 years the media will pooh-pooh this as old news. Few remembered Clinton was elected on a promise not to raise taxes, and in the first month of his first term he said regretfully that he could not keep that promise. Who remembered that, when he ran for his second?
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razorbacker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:05:31pm |
Ha, ha!
Chicago radio news explicitly states that "Obama was not involved."
That they even mention it makes it credible.
MMM. This is the most delicious shadenfruede I've tasted in a long time.
| 671 |
father_of_10 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:06:17pm |
re: #623 Honorary Yooper
Well, to be fair, B of A should've taken Federal law in account and negotiated something with Republic Doors and Windows to make sure the employees were notified and taken care of in accordance with the law.
However, I don't take much stock in what B of A says or does. Remember, they were handing out accounts to illegals.
I don't have feeling one way or the other about B of A, I just think that is a company goes under and the banks foreclose, you can rest assured that the bank is doing what was agreed upon in the loan papers. Why should the bank have any responsibility for how the company treated the employees? The bank loans money based on ability to repay with interest. If B of A thought Republic could salvage its business and repay the loan, then I'm sure they would've loaned them more money.
| 672 |
jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:06:47pm |
re: #670 razorbacker
Ha, ha!
Chicago radio news explicitly states that "Obama was not involved."
That they even mention it makes it credible.
MMM. This is the most delicious shadenfruede I've tasted in a long time.
Two weeks ago Alexrod said they were in constant communication on the appointment...
| 673 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:07:02pm |
re: #670 razorbacker
Chicago radio news explicitly states that "Obama was not involved."
That they even mention it makes it credible.
"I am not a crook."
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:07:48pm |
re: #670 razorbacker
Ha, ha!
Chicago radio news explicitly states that "Obama was not involved."
That they even mention it makes it credible.
MMM. This is the most delicious shadenfruede I've tasted in a long time.
Judicial Watch Statement: Blagojevich Arrest Shakes Obama Presidency to Its Core
Contact:
Press Office (phone number available at link)Washington, DC -- December 9, 2008
Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton issued the following statement today in response to the arrest of Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich:"There has been an air of lawlessness around Governor Blagojevich for some time and Judicial Watch applauds U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald for his actions.
"Blagojevich's corruption is no surprise, but its breadth and depravity is shocking. The alleged efforts to sell the Senate seat of Barack Obama are outrageous, but also seem to implicate many other powerful politicians and political players. Especially disturbing are the questions the scandal raises about Barack Obama and his close associates.
"This is a burgeoning crisis for Obama that should shake his presidency to its core.
"The criminal complaint filed today indicates that Obama and his team knew about Blagojevich's efforts to sell Obama's Senate seat. ("Tony" Rezko, Obama friend, fundraiser and real estate partner, is once again implicated in the corrupt activities exposed today.)
"Did Obama report Blagojevich to investigators about any efforts to sell his Senate seat?"
Judicial Watch has been investigating Rod Blagojevich for over two years and has ongoing open records litigation concerning the sale of government jobs for which he was arrested today. Blagojevich has stonewalled and refused to turn over documents to Judicial Watch that could have alerted the American people to his corruption.
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gmsc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:10:48pm |
re: #672 jcm
Two weeks ago Alexrod said they were in constant communication on the appointment...
Smoker and the Bandit?
| 677 |
pingjockey Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:11:07pm |
How much do the guv and his henchmen have on obambi? How high does this go? What di the obambi know? And when did he know it? Mwahahaha!
| 678 |
tfc3rid Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:12:43pm |
re: #672 jcm
Two weeks ago Alexrod said they were in constant communication on the appointment...
Hannity just replayed this clip on his program...
| 680 |
solomonpanting Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:14:00pm |
He better hope his jail/prison time is spent in solitary or else rod Blagojevich will take on a new meaning.
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Silhouette Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:17:17pm |
re: #670 razorbacker
Ha, ha!
Chicago radio news explicitly states that "Obama was not involved."
That they even mention it makes it credible.
Well, he said he wasn't involved.
That's good enough for me.
Which gives me a great way to save money on courts, police, FBI, etc. We'll just ASK the perps if they're guilty!
Why didn't anyone ever think of this before?
| 682 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:17:41pm |
| 683 |
n in wi Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:18:19pm |
I wonder,for all the grief Bush took for replacing Fed. prosecutes,if Obama will keep all of them on?
Not really wonder,just pointing out an observation for yet another soon to be double standard.
| 684 |
snowgardendream Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:18:44pm |
I had to turn off Hannity...I don't want to get myself caught up in another Obama/crime connection theory. HillBuzz had me salivating that Obama's end was near due to the 3 punch knockouts that were promised...needless to say, I was greatly disappointed. I think I'll wait for a real governing screw-up by the One before I hope for his come-uppance.
| 685 |
Van Helsing Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:23:21pm |
re: #556 Peacekeeper
I just read a story in a Baen collection where the protagonist discovered that the Galactic Federation used the postal service for faster-than-light travel.
The protagonist noticed that the farther away the destination of something being shipped, the sooner it arrived...
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LGoPs Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:27:25pm |
re: #683 n in wi
I wonder,for all the grief Bush took for replacing Fed. prosecutes,if Obama will keep all of them on?
Not really wonder,just pointing out an observation for yet another soon to be double standard.
In clarification, Bush replaced only a handful...around 9 maybe. Clinton replaced the entire group nationwide in one swell foop and got no grief. Expect the same for Obama...
Shameless double standard from the media...bastards.
| 687 |
jcm Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:28:07pm |
re: #685 Van Helsing
I just read a story in a Baen collection where the protagonist discovered that the Galactic Federation used the postal service for faster-than-light travel.
The protagonist noticed that the farther away the destination of something being shipped, the sooner it arrived...
I remember a story similar to that in a bunch of pulp sci-fi mags I had.
A guy notice the farther away he sends a letter the faster he gets a response. So he posts a letter to the Galactic Federation and when he gets home from the post office the reply has already been delivered welcoming earth to the federation.
| 689 |
the_flying_pig Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:35:15pm |
Really unbelievable! Dems gonna down, crash and burn!
The moonbats are barking! The moonbats are barking!
| 690 |
Geppetto Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:37:57pm |
Ah yes, the great state of illinois and crook county! btw, this from abc news
[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]
I wonder if blago didn't try to influence the news and make some money to boot!
| 691 |
Dave the..... Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:40:00pm |
Maybe a home town boy like Blago can do better. On the other hand, Obama must be wondering "The jerk couldn't wait 'till I got to the Oval Office to make his play? WTF!"
Remember, the President can fire all Fed'l prosecutors. If Fitz waits until Feb, Blogo could get away with it as a Democrat appointee may not bother.
As far as an Obama connection...he's connected to criminals, but let's not get all conspiracy theory over this. Leave that for Michael Savage and Ann Coulter.
| 692 |
Sharmuta Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:40:43pm |
re: #684 snowgardendream
I had to turn off Hannity...I don't want to get myself caught up in another Obama/crime connection theory. HillBuzz had me salivating that Obama's end was near due to the 3 punch knockouts that were promised...needless to say, I was greatly disappointed. I think I'll wait for a real governing screw-up by the One before I hope for his come-uppance.
Actually- IIRC, Hillbuzz said Fitz would be going after Blago. Rezko was to bring down Blago, and Blago would bring down 0bama. Since the election, I have not much faith in anything Hillbuzz has to say, for reasons that are my own, but that is what they said would be the path. Rezco to Blago to 0bama. I will not, however, hold my breath.
| 694 |
taejohndo Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:47:42pm |
| 695 |
LC LaWedgie Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:50:41pm |
OH, who are the people in your neighborhood
In your neighborhood
In your neigh-boor-hood OH
Who are the people in your neighborhood,
the peeepole that you meet each daaay!
I see Barry and Billy and Tony
Jesse and, oh, little Jessie Junior... doesn't he look cute on that beer truck.
Here's Jerimie and.. it's Roddy Baggo! yay!
Oh, noes. It's bad, ol' G man Fitzmas.
Whut, ya mean acceleration into the Federal spotlight by enorrrmous inflows of illegal cash is, well, illegal?
(spit)
| 696 |
JumpLandPackRepeat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:50:57pm |
re: #82 Buck
Release the wire tapes to the internet!
Obama's friend Rezco is deep in this...
Thank goodness the LA Times didn't have the tapes or we'd never have known about this at all.
| 697 |
ConservatismNow! Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:53:05pm |
I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, that an Illinois politician gets arrested for corruption! Excuse me while I finish laughing.
Okay done. Hi everybody! I'm new here. Long time lurker. FINALLY was around for a registration period!
| 698 |
JumpLandPackRepeat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 1:55:22pm |
re: #186 Tumulus11
. Prediction for 2009:
Gov. B. will parachute into federal prison where he will be probed by aliens.
Hope he forgets to pull or his chute gets tangled in his hair.
| 699 |
JumpLandPackRepeat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:03:07pm |
re: #288 Right mind left
You HAVE TO go rent "A Christmas Story".. It is a MUST.
One of my favorite movies...I could quote from it for days. That, and Napolean Dynamite.
| 700 |
redstateredneck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:07:01pm |
Illinois is making Louisiana look good.
| 701 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:12:24pm |
re: #700 redstateredneck
Illinois is making Louisiana look good.
Coffee- Louisiana - better
Music - tie
? - Illinois - better
| 702 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:20:54pm |
What is it about 0bama that inspires his own supporters (like Jesse Jackson and now Gov. Blag) to wax filthy about him?
Here's Blagojevich Blows His Shot at a Pardon [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
From the complaint:
ROD BLAGOJEVICH said that the consultants (Advisor B and another consultant are believed to be on the call at that time) are telling him that he has to “suck it up” for two years and do nothing and give this “motherf***[the President-elect] his senator. F*** him. For nothing? F*** him.” ROD BLAGOJEVICH states that he will put [Senate Candidate 4]” in the Senate “before I just give f***ing [Senate Candidate 1] a f***ing Senate seat and I don’t get anything.”
If his own people feel like that about him why, I ask myself, should we have to play so nice for four+ years?
(Oh, it'd be ''racist,'' if we did it.)
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mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:21:24pm |
Oops!
Forgot the link!
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]
| 704 |
Lizard by the Bay Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:22:37pm |
re: #701 lifeofthemind
Pizza - Illinois - BETTER!
(Sorry NY pizza lovers, I don't care for your flat, floppy slices).
| 706 |
GOPManHatTanIte Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:27:22pm |
dont miss chris matthewes on MSNBC defending pay to play politics...disgraceful
| 707 |
Throbert McGee Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:36:41pm |
re: #24 Right mind left
He must have practiced saying "Governor Blagojevich" for about 10 minutes before this press conference...
Heh... not really so hard to say, as long as you know that the "j" in Slavic names is usually pronounced like an English "y": Bla-goy-ye-vich.
Incidentally, I found from Googling that his ethnicity is Serbian, and that his real first name is "Milorad." (Pronounced more or less like "meal o' rod" -- something that he'll have to get used to in the slammer, iffen you know whut ah mean.)
/Nomen est omen
| 709 |
JumpLandPackRepeat Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:50:25pm |
Main topics in this thread: Blago, A Christmas Story, and detachable penes. Just another reason why I like LGF!
| 710 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:53:08pm |
re: #704 Lizard by the Bay
Pizza - Illinois - BETTER!
(Sorry NY pizza lovers, I don't care for your flat, floppy slices).
Sure as heck better in Illinois than in Louisiana
| 711 |
lifeofthemind Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:54:35pm |
re: #709 JumpLandPackRepeat
Main topics in this thread: Blago, A Christmas Story, and detachable penes. Just another reason why I like LGF!
Penne? penne rigata with a nice sauce? Oh never mind.
| 712 |
descolada9 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 2:59:32pm |
I can understand the speculation that Fitz pulled this one now in order to make it stick before Obama replaces all of the US Attornies, but I also wonder why he didn't wait just a little bit longer to see who would actually pay Blago for the seat. As Rush pointed out earlier today, Fitz let the Scooter Libby trial simmer for two years in order to get a process crime out of it when he knew who the real leaker was.
Can't help but wonder if Fitz pulled the pin now in order to protect others, not necessarily Obama, but possibly other interested parties.
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Joan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 3:04:25pm |
re: #712 descolada9
I can understand the speculation that Fitz pulled this one now in order to make it stick before Obama replaces all of the US Attornies, but I also wonder why he didn't wait just a little bit longer to see who would actually pay Blago for the seat. As Rush pointed out earlier today, Fitz let the Scooter Libby trial simmer for two years in order to get a process crime out of it when he knew who the real leaker was.
Can't help but wonder if Fitz pulled the pin now in order to protect others, not necessarily Obama, but possibly other interested parties.
Well, my thought is that Obama is basically "in the clear" since he or his proxies refused to pay off in anything but a hearty handshake; and, that this Fitz is an Obama guy, sub rosa. I don't think it pays to try to strongarm this Obama machine, you know--they really do "level" the field.
| 715 |
redinla Tue, Dec 9, 2008 3:15:35pm |
Being raised in Chicago, the only thing I find surprising is that people find this surprising.
The fact that Obama's people are denying any involvement is hilarious. You don't roll around in a pig pen and not get covered in sh*t.
| 716 |
Hobbes Tue, Dec 9, 2008 3:18:57pm |
re: #228 opnion
The Chicago Machine heads East to D.C.
If anyone doubts that, Obama was tutored in politics by IL Senate President, Emile Jones & State Senator DiLeo.
His ethics mentor was Tony Rezko. There is no way that Obama is clean.
Yep, that's what I thought when BHO was elected. America will now get a chance to see how Chicago politics work!
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Tanna Tue, Dec 9, 2008 3:27:53pm |
133 WriterMom
Kevlar toupees? Whouda thunk.
The patented Kennedy fiberglass hair helmet.
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flutesnoot Tue, Dec 9, 2008 3:29:18pm |
The guy who directed A Christmas Story also directed Porky's.
| 720 |
LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 3:30:27pm |
| 721 |
Hobbes Tue, Dec 9, 2008 3:32:50pm |
re: #253 chicagodudewhotrades
Boy, days like this make me really proud of my city and state (is 'sarc' really needed?). This is bad. One thing that really pisses me off is that the Gov was trying to shake down Children's Memorial Hospital over on the North side. My dentist used to have his office there, and a cousin got some back surgery there decades ago. It is a first-rate hospital that truly does wonderful work. It was public knowledge that the Gov was a possible Fed target , and yet he continued this stuff anyway. This could eventually take down Pres.-elect Obama, no way he has clean hands in all this. Remember that Agnew got taken down for corruption he did at the state level.
My feelings also!
Posted this on a previous thread: Children's Memorial Hospital is one of the best children's hospital around. This hospital has helped sick children for years (personal experience).
The idea he would threaten to take away promised funding for political gain, is beyond anything. Words cannot express how disgusting I think this is!
| 722 |
valkyrie Tue, Dec 9, 2008 3:51:33pm |
re: #715 redinla
Being raised in Chicago, the only thing I find surprising is that people find this surprising.
Same here. My husband excitedly woke me up with the news and all I could do was say, "It's about time." I rolled over and went back to sleep.
He later told me, "I know you've always said that all Chicago politics is dirty politics, I just never believed how bad it was."
Thank God for Fitz. It takes some cajones to take these people down. Whether or not he follows the leads all the way to THE ONE, we'll have to wait and see. I hope he has it in him.
| 723 |
talon_262 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 3:53:30pm |
re: #16 SpringheelJack
This will get really interesting if Obama emulates Clinton and conducts a mass purge of federal prosecutors as soon as he's in office.
I wonder if Fitz will indict Obama before the inauguration?
I have a feeling that that's a big reason Fitzgerald dropped the hammer on Blago now, once he had enough evidence to grab him...Fitzgerald knows he's on borrowed time, because the conventional wisdom is that Obama's gonna Clintonize the Justice Department and fire all of the existing US Attorneys as soon as he takes office, so he needed to get the Rezko and Blago cases sufficiently into the judicial system so that his political successor can't just sweep it under the rug at the behest of Dear Leader and the Chicago Machine without taking a whole lot of heat.
| 726 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 4:27:26pm |
re: #725 taxfreekiller
has the name from the indicment,
Ali Ata been checked,
google search says he is Arab American lobby guy who gave lots of money to this crooked Gov. B.
?
I noted in the indictment that Ali Ata had knowingly written a letter (well, I'll quote it)
18. It was further part of the scheme that in or about
February 25, 2004, at the request of defendant REZKO and for the
purpose of assisting defendant REZKO in defrauding GECC, defendant
ALI ATA signed a letter on IFA letterhead (“the February 2004
letter”) that falsely made it appear that Investor 1 had applied
for financing with the IFA in connection with Investor 1's
acquisition of the Milwaukee and Chicago area pizza restaurants.
The letter, which was addressed to Investor 1 but which defendant
ATA knew that defendant REZKO intended to present to GECC,
represented that:
your request for financing the acquisition of Papa John’s
stores in the Chicago and Milwaukee markets will be
recommended for approval by the Board of Directors of the
Illinois Finance Authority (IFA) on March 15, 2004.
10
Page 11
IFA will guarantee 50% of the total acquisition cost of $16
million. Closing can be scheduled three weeks after board
approval.
19. As defendant ATA well knew, Investor 1 had not submitted
an application to the IFA, no financing proposal for Investor 1's
purchase of the Chicago and Milwaukee area Papa John’s restaurants
had been reviewed by IFA’s staff, no such financing proposal
existed to be presented for approval by the IFA board, and the
proposed loan guarantee was inconsistent with IFA’s financing
practices and its available financial resources
I guess taqiyya is wending its way into America's dealings with such businessmen.
| 727 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 4:32:07pm |
This is interesting:
[Link: divisionstreet.wordpress.com...]
Who Is Ali Ata?
April 23, 2008Right now, he’s the governor’s worst nightmare.
Some quick background: ...
No direct tie to 0bama however/
| 728 |
Miggie Tue, Dec 9, 2008 4:33:11pm |
I don't get it. If, as the Reuters article says, ""Obama had the good sense to stay far, far away from Blagojevich and all of his people," said Democratic consultant Dane Strother. "You never saw Blagojevich in Obama's camp, you never saw his name during the campaign. Obama's people were plenty smart enough to stay way away from Blagojevich and all the people around Blagojevich," he said." then what did they know about Blagojevich?
Did they know something or were they smart enough to have Obama stay away just by the looks of things? If it was something they knew, then what was that? If is was just by the look of things, then what specific things led them to give this advice?
If the advisers had suspicions they could have and should have done something about it long ago in addition to just keeping Obama away. It is hard to believe that the Governor and a Senator from the same state and the same party "... had no contact.." with each other. Why, specifically, were things "tense" between the two? Is it a "just no awareness" situation as it was with Rev Wright, William Ayers, et. al.?
This story is hard to swallow. Just from the Obama Seen as Untouched from Scandal headline alone, it looks like the newspapers are still in the tank for Obama. (Who sees him as "untouched"?... the Democratic National Committee? The reporters?)
| 729 |
LGoPs Tue, Dec 9, 2008 4:37:05pm |
Looks like they'll need to run a job posting:
State Chief Executive; no experience necessary; criminal background not required, but considered a plus.
| 730 |
Marlin925 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 4:43:10pm |
#729 LGoPs,
Your monniker isn't the abreviation for Little Groups of Paratroopers, is it?
Have been "knees in the breeze" about 45 times in younger days.
| 731 |
marsl Tue, Dec 9, 2008 4:43:53pm |
Hmmm... i bet this guy will not make prison time. The Obamessiah will pardon him. For good and outstanding services in the line of duty to the Democrat Party and the election of Obama to America.
The Democratic Party America always first!
/Democratic party mode off
| 732 |
mean Gene Tue, Dec 9, 2008 4:44:58pm |
re: #728 Miggie
I think it was less political savvy than it was payback.
[Link: apnews.myway.com...] notes it this way:
Obama has maintained a cordial but distant relationship with Blagojevich during the governor's tenure. He supported his fellow Democrat for re-election in 2006, even though the governor backed someone else over Obama in the U.S. Senate Democratic primary race in 2004. Obama has said little about the many misconduct allegations that have piled up against Blagojevich, and he has complimented Blagojevich for running "a sound administration" with "the right priorities."
Obama's circle of major Illinois political allies and supporters is largely separate from Blagojevich's, with two major exceptions. Both Obama and Blagojevich got extensive money and support from Chicago businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who is now under federal indictment. ...
| 733 |
Rancher Tue, Dec 9, 2008 4:48:30pm |
re: #423 Russkilitlover
Absolutely not! But I'd like to see Republicans push the issue of known Democrat corruption - like the guy with the fridge full of cash, and all this stuff oozing out of Chicago. I don't think it's too much to ask to want to see the Republicans actually, you know, FIGHT. Republicans have been pretty good about eradicating known R politicians when they fall, they should be out there pushing the Dems to do the same.
Well, then, I agree! Not just on corruption either, for instance McCain should have been pointing the finger at Dodd, Franks, ACORN, Clinton, and the many other Dems complicit in the financial breakdown.
| 734 |
Spar Kling Tue, Dec 9, 2008 4:58:07pm |
Ok, nobody's reporting on the most important piece of information here! What does a Senate seat sell for nowadays?
I have no idea and I'm sure a lot of people besides me want to know. The news always leave out the vital stuff!
-sk
| 735 |
Waterstradt Tue, Dec 9, 2008 5:04:47pm |
Now we know why Sen Durbin called for the pardon of Gov Ryan it will clear the way for Obama to do a pardon and blame Bush.
| 736 |
talon_262 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 5:14:19pm |
re: #292 LilyGecko
Love the "bad word" scene with the soap. :) Also, the "happy dinner".
OHHH FUUUDDDGGGEEE!
| 737 |
Birdalone Tue, Dec 9, 2008 5:17:19pm |
wonderful timing. what must be going through the minds of the 253 Electors who are NOT bound by state law as they approach their vote date of December 15?
Rezko was dishing to Fitzgerald by Oct. 7, which accounts for the wiretaps?
I don't think Obama would dare fire Fitzgerald.
Most of the dirt on Obama as a Chicago politician was in Ryan Lizza's July 21 profile in The New Yorker. It was enough to change my vote.
The byzantine goings-on in New York politics now pale by comparison with Illinois. And we even had a Fed takedown of the real mafia in The Bronx in between the State Senate deal (next chapter is Wednesday), civil war in The Bronx Democratic Party, and Gov Paterson's impossible quest for a gay Latina from anywhere north of White Plains to replace Hillary.
By real mafia, I mean the Italian guys. So much has been outsourced to the Albanians, just wasn't the same.
| 738 |
nobamadada Tue, Dec 9, 2008 5:27:28pm |
Typical Chicago politician...pay and play politics at it's best
| 739 |
Spar Kling Tue, Dec 9, 2008 5:36:56pm |
re: #738 nobamadada
Typical Chicago politician...pay and play politics at it's best
Right you are. It's just a different interpretation of the concept of checks and balances: sending checks and raising balances!
-sk
| 740 |
talon_262 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 6:19:15pm |
re: #714 Joan
Well, my thought is that Obama is basically "in the clear" since he or his proxies refused to pay off in anything but a hearty handshake; and, that this Fitz is an Obama guy, sub rosa. I don't think it pays to try to strongarm this Obama machine, you know--they really do "level" the field.
Like a wrecking ball, as we found out leading up to the election...
| 741 |
PattiO Tue, Dec 9, 2008 6:35:20pm |
re: #102 livefreeor die
Just how far down this Blagojevich rabbit hole do you think the MSM is really willing to go? This guy is the freakin' smoking gun, "missing-link" for the corruption pay-go that infests our state and federal representatives. If The People don't use this as the opportunity of a lifetime to take our country back, we get what we deserve. I put forth a vote of "No Confidence" for every damn one of them!
| 742 |
Tigger2005 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 7:17:40pm |
Charles, I don't think you should put up Blagojevich's name without adding the (D) after it.
| 743 |
UncleSam Tue, Dec 9, 2008 8:09:26pm |
re: #386 Killian Bundy
He should have asked Franken.
/Al would pay good money for a Senate seat, any Senate seat
To think that a deranged psychopath like Al Franken could become a Senator is incredibly scary.
The guy is trying every weasely way possible to steal the election.
He makes my skin crawl.
| 744 |
Silvergirl Tue, Dec 9, 2008 8:16:55pm |
Good God! It's been a no news day for me so this is the first I know of the story. I've only skimmed the posts so far, so I don't know everything that's been said, but let me tell you, it is sick and wrong that we have so much corruption in our gov't. Okay, laugh at my naivete, but I just want more, don't you? Not more corruption, just a spark of decency, and people going into the service of this nation for what talents they have that they might lend to its betterment. There are so many crooks! Selling a senate seat. This is the limit. Yeah, it's a valuable thing, but not for glory and riches. At least in a better world it would be.
The Land of Lincoln, indeed! Yesterday I heard that Illinois is considering having a Land of Obama alternative to the license plates. They may live to regret that one.
| 745 |
sallieparker Tue, Dec 9, 2008 8:29:06pm |
This, after Spitzer, and the Obama funding fraud. Hey, are Democrats incredibly corrupt or what? What Republicans can compete with all this? Larry Craig? Ha!
| 746 |
lazlo Tue, Dec 9, 2008 8:31:12pm |
Wow. You people crack me up. You're just starving for a scandal that doesn't involve a Republican. Good Luck. You'll all be back to hyperventilating about Obama's birth certificate within a week.
Sad. Truly sad.
| 747 |
thefarmer Tue, Dec 9, 2008 8:51:52pm |
What's sad lazlo is the amount of corruption we have to tolerate in IL because of the Chicago crooks. You are one of the few I've seen atempting to defend IL Dems and their avarice.
Good luck w/ that.
| 748 |
LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:24:29pm |
re: #728 Miggie
You have to have what I call "interpretive" reading... "you never saw" is not the same as "it didn't happen."
/jus' sayin'
| 749 |
fsjeffrey Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:37:37pm |
With Blagojevich out of the way, who do I see about buying Obama's senate seat?
| 750 |
Ledger1 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:40:49am |
re: #214 Mich-again
"Bidding starts at $500,000. No Republican allowed."
| 751 |
pittrader1988 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:34:41am |
re: #58 DistantThunder
No Chance. There are always those that just don't pay attention, and the corruption in Illinois is so deep, and infects BOTH parties. In Chicago, it's just the way business is done-so as appalling as this is, it should not surprise anyone from Illinois.
Many pols in Illinois do the same thing, they just aren't so crass about it.
| 752 |
pittrader1988 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:37:28am |
re: #737 Birdalone
Here in Chicago, the Mob is a integral part of city government. The entire Rush Street nightclub and restaurant district is controlled by the mob, garbage, prostitution etc. Unions, all that stuff. It is especially critical to note, BOTH parties are corrupt in Illinois. Only outsiders can be considered clean.
| 753 |
pittrader1988 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:48:11am |
link to a great article
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]
| 755 |
A.W. Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:58:23am |
Mmmm, anyone hoping this will take down the Obama administration is getting ahead of themselves.
But, anyone pretending there is no problem for Obama is also getting ahead of themselves. His assistant just yesterday admitted they had talked names for his replacement, discussing the convo in detail. Then they claim this was all a mistatement. Mmm, yeah. The reality is you would expect Obama to have had that conversation with Blaggy. The only issue is whether Blaggy tried to get a bribe and how Obama reacted if he did, but it is a little silly to pretend there is no problem.
Btw, I fully expect Obama to claim that "this is not the Blaggy I know..." oh, nevermind, he tried that lame excuse already.
One more thing. For those hoping for his impeachment and removal, um, do you really want a President Biden instead? Really?
| 756 |
Radislav Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:56:27am |
Makes you wonder what Obama paid for his seat?
Oh he ran unopposed ...how interesting
| 757 |
Radislav Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:01:25am |
re: #755 A.W.
actually it's not the Biden scares me its I know Biden will gaffe himself out of office SO fast leaving us with the Communist Pelosi carrying the nuclear football
| 758 |
zelnaga Wed, Dec 10, 2008 10:37:27am |
re: #16 SpringheelJack
This will get really interesting if Obama emulates Clinton and conducts a mass purge of federal prosecutors as soon as he's in office.
I wonder if Fitz will indict Obama before the inauguration?
To be fair, most presidents purge federal prosecutors en masse, as I understand it:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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