Overnight Open Thread
After the havoc that I’m gonna wreak
No more words will critics have to speak
— Weezer
After the havoc that I’m gonna wreak
No more words will critics have to speak
— Weezer
1492 comments
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:22:47pm |
Critic: defn, a person who makes a living by tearing apart some one elses work, usually has not created a work of their own.
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van helsing Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:25:20pm |
Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war!
Or go to bed.
Nite boys and girls. Play nice.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:26:29pm |
Okay, enough with the "Hello, I must be going" schtick. Anyone else sticking around?
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:27:13pm |
speaking of havoc, a new classic:
John Bird and John Fortune : credit crunch
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:28:31pm |
re: #2 van helsing
Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war!
Or go to bed.
Nite boys and girls. Play nice.
"Cry 'CHEEBLE!' and let loose the lemmings of war..."
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:29:17pm |
since the last thread was all guns and ID, can we turn this into a boob thread?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:29:24pm |
re: #7 LeePro
Good morning {LeePro}. How you doing this fine day?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:30:00pm |
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Van Helsing Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:30:22pm |
re: #9 redc1c4
since the last thread was all guns and ID, can we turn this into a boob thread?
I'm NOT talking about Jimmy Carter any more!
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:30:36pm |
re: #11 SurferDoc
*Climbs in through the window*
Hey, Lizards!
Ummm, didn't you know that there's a door over there? ←
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Meremortal Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:32:03pm |
While we are getting our bearings, allow me to post a request for the Governor of the great state of Illinois:
"Uhh, Blago. Dude. Lose the toup, OK? Spend a few hundred of those dirty dollars in your sock drawer on a decent crown cover. You are SO not going to be forgiven as long as you wear that opossum on your head."
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Van Helsing Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:32:33pm |
re: #8 redc1c4
Lemmings...
You kids behave back there! Or I'll just drive right over the cliff!
-Gary Larson The Farside
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:33:43pm |
Hope this whole Blagojevich-getting-arrested thingey won't interrupt all this hopey and changey good vibes we're supposed to start feeling next month.
/Maybe us lizards can play 'Count the Home Invasion Robbers' at the innauguration.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:33:51pm |
re: #11 SurferDoc
*Climbs in through the window*
Hey, Lizards!
I love you avatar. I have a little plush Marvin here, he is seated, with his legs out in front of him. I have him on top of my TV. He is looking down into his lap, and between his legs I have placed a nice meteorite from my collection.
It just says something to me, the martian and the rock.
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:35:17pm |
re: #9 redc1c4
since the last thread was all guns and ID, can we turn this into a boob thread?
I'll vote for comedy: mortgage crisis (fall 07)
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:37:02pm |
re: #20 Walter L. Newton
I love you avatar. I have a little plush Marvin here, he is seated, with his legs out in front of him. I have him on top of my TV. He is looking down into his lap, and between his legs I have placed a nice meteorite from my collection.
It just says something to me, the martian and the rock.
Thanks. I've always liked Marvin. I found a small chunk of a meteorite out near Ludlow a long time ago.
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LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:37:10pm |
re: #10 BlueCanuck
Good morning {LeePro}. How you doing this fine day?
Maybe day will be fine by sun-up. So far wet, soggy, after 2-3 days solid rain.
Yeccchhh!
Would love to see actual winter precip!
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:37:48pm |
re: #9 redc1c4
since the last thread was all guns and ID, can we turn this into a boob thread?
I vote for boobs...
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:38:55pm |
re: #22 SurferDoc
Thanks. I've always liked Marvin. I found a small chunk of a meteorite out near Ludlow a long time ago.
Ludlow where?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:39:03pm |
re: #23 LeePro
Well we had a bit of that white stuff over the weekend and today. Now it's raining of all things.
/hate this time of year, temps fluctuate to bloody much.
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Van Helsing Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:39:30pm |
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Karridine Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:39:40pm |
re: #23 LeePro
Hey, I feel for yah, Lee! We have another bright, sunny day here in Bangkok, but it was COOL this morning, maybe 42F, you know? And northern Thailand reported frost on the ground, again this year!
/snurkk! :D
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:39:41pm |
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LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:39:42pm |
re: #9 redc1c4
since the last thread was all guns and ID, can we turn this into a boob thread?
Did that already, Mandy and me. How could you (of all people!) miss that?!?
How 'bout a thread on male body parts?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:39:44pm |
re: #24 Walter L. Newton
Ackkk, pffft. Eye bleach please?
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Erik The Red Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:40:01pm |
re: #24 Walter L. Newton
EYE BLEACH. How about a warning next time Walter. Morning Lizards.
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Van Helsing Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:41:12pm |
re: #28 Karridine
How are things in the 'restive south' Karradine? Haven't heard much here lately.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:42:12pm |
re: #33 SurferDoc
Ludlow California, in the Mojave Desert.
Ok, now please don't take this question as tacky, but it's an occupational habit of meteorite collectors.
How do you know it was a meteorite?
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chicken kiev Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:42:41pm |
If I hear one more person respond in all sincerity to bad news on TV or a gloomy prediction of the future with a worshipful expression and the words, "Well, now that Barack Obama's been elected, that's going to change" ... I just hope I'm sitting on my hands so that I can't punch anyone in the nose.
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:43:51pm |
re: #37 Walter L. Newton
Ok, now please don't take this question as tacky, but it's an occupational habit of meteorite collectors.
How do you know it was a meteorite?
I took it to a rock shop and they identified it for me.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:44:38pm |
re: #38 chicken kiev
If I hear one more person respond in all sincerity to bad news on TV or a gloomy prediction of the future with a worshipful expression and the words, "Well, now that Barack Obama's been elected, that's going to change" ... I just hope I'm sitting on my hands so that I can't punch anyone in the nose.
Now that Barak Obama has been elected, your tendency to want to punch people in the nose will change.
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Erik The Red Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:44:44pm |
re: #36 BlueCanuck
Morning Erik. How's things near the Cape?
I'm in Durban on the East coast about 14 hours from the Cape(West coast). Weather should be good today mid 80's maybe rain later this afternoon. How cold are you today Blue?
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Karridine Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:45:02pm |
re: #35 Van Helsing
How are things in the 'restive south' Karridine? Haven't heard much here lately.
Van, you ain't heard much because the Pukes Against Democracy stole the limelight by stealing secret documents during their 5-month illegal occupation of Government House, and because they walked in (WALKED IN) and commandeered Bangkok Intntl Airport and did massive damage to the Thai economy on their way to their 5th deposed, democratically-elected Prime Minister...
/filthy scum the PAD!
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:45:16pm |
re: #39 SurferDoc
I took it to a rock shop and they identified it for me.
If you want, can you describe it?
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:45:23pm |
re: #40 Walter L. Newton
Agreed- I feel like kicking most of these dipshits square in the groin after getting a running head start.
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LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:45:40pm |
re: #19 Fenway_Nation
Hope this whole Blagojevich-getting-arrested thingey won't interrupt all this hopey and changey good vibes we're supposed to start feeling next month.
/Maybe us lizards can play 'Count the Home Invasion Robbers' at the innauguration.
G-G-Almighty!
That is so fuckin' SICK ! ! !
DAMN!
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:46:20pm |
re: #12 BlueCanuck
Well you are here, so I think we have a good start on that.
/white smoke
tit's a mean thing to say...
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:47:27pm |
re: #41 Erik The Red
Above freezing today. Like I said up thread. Raining right now. Low tonight should be -1.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:48:00pm |
re: #48 redc1c4
Well I do try to keep a-breast of the times.
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LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:51:53pm |
re: #52 2by2
...sniff,
again ignored, signing out crushed...
Don't be sad, 2by2!
Redc1c4 ignored a really good boob joke... !
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Shr_Nfr Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:53:06pm |
re: #31 BlueCanuck
Don't knock it. Its a picture of one of the 72 virgins that a shaheed is going to get.
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Van Helsing Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:53:59pm |
re: #42 Karridine
Geez. Of course. THAT I've been reading about. I forget that there is Bad Stuff happening there that isn't necessarily bombs and beheadings. Sorry K, didn't mean to be an insensitive blind putz.
Are things moving toward normalcy now?
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:54:34pm |
re: #54 LeePro
Don't be sad, 2by2!
Redc1c4 ignored a really good boob joke... !
sorry: i have a very décolleté sense of humor...
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:55:12pm |
re: #52 2by2
...sniff,
again ignored, signing out crushed...
I'm sorry, did someone say something? ;)
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:56:19pm |
re: #44 Walter L. Newton
If you want, can you describe it?
Sure. Imagine something larger than a softball and with more than half of it missing. One side is rounded and the other side looks as if it is broken. It is black and the surface is similar to a volcanic rock on the broken side and smoother on the rounded side. It is heavier than a rock that size "should" be. That is from memory. I just went to look where I thought it was and it wasn't there. We have a lot of rocks around the house.
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Yankee Division Son Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:56:57pm |
I’mma do the things that I wanna do, I ain’t got a thing to prove to you
I’ll eat my candy with the pork and beans, Excuse my manners if I make a scene
I ain’t gonna wear the clothes that you like, I’m finally dandy with the me inside
One look in the mirror and I’m tickled pink, I don’t give a hoot about what you think
-Weezer
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:57:13pm |
re: #30 LeePro
Did that already, Mandy and me. How could you (of all people!) miss that?!?
How 'bout a thread on male body parts?
saw that when it was posted... definitely snork worthy
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LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:57:56pm |
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Shiplord Kirel Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:58:21pm |
re: #1 BlueCanuck
Critic: defn, a person who makes a living by tearing apart some one elses work, usually has not created a work of their own.
In the SF world, the late Jack Chalker called them the "failed writer's school."
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Karridine Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:58:41pm |
re: #56 Van Helsing
No scent of 'insensitive, blind putz' from your comments, Van...
Yes, the PAD vacated the airport last week, after crowing about another 'victory', but their karma is about to catch up with them, bigtime... they've turned too many people against them, ruined too much of the economy (500,000 tourist-related jobs MINIMUM expected to be lost next year?) and exposed too much of their cupidity and thuggishness to try this again, even with supporters in Parliament!
So drifting AWAY from ABNORMAL is a better assessment than 'moving toward normal...'
How you? LTNS!
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LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:59:13pm |
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 10:59:42pm |
re: #64 SurferDoc
The pants are on. Well, shorts. This is California.
tell me about it: i'm taking the ex to her w*rk xmas thing, and she siad it's "dressy... which for you means long pants."
so i'll wear Dockers and my surfing santa Hawaiian shirt/
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:01:28pm |
re: #69 redc1c4
tell me about it: i'm taking the ex to her w*rk xmas thing, and she siad it's "dressy... which for you means long pants."
so i'll wear Dockers and my surfing santa Hawaiian shirt/
Yep. The joke around here is No Way in Hell Day. That's the day it gets so cold, usually in January that I say, "No way in Hell I can wear shorts today."
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:02:23pm |
re: #65 LeePro
hey, thanks
just felt like howling into the woods, only hearing a faint echo of my typing
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Karridine Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:03:21pm |
re: #73 2by2
Its only a problem when the woods howl back, 2by... :D
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:03:45pm |
re: #71 SurferDoc
Yep. The joke around here is No Way in Hell Day. That's the day it gets so cold, usually in January that I say, "No way in Hell I can wear shorts today."
i even wear them then... got a pic of my bro that made the Denver paper when he was at SDSU, front top of the sunday sports page. blowing snow, and he's in a sweater and shorts. %-)
SFV here: and you?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:04:59pm |
re: #73 2by2
Well, my problem right now is that my job keeps distracting me.
/insensitive, don't they know I have important people to talk to?
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Van Helsing Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:06:01pm |
re: #67 Karridine
Thanks for the news. I'm doing fine, enjoying the time of year in Phoenix that makes July and August just a dull memory of discomfort.
Take care.
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Karridine Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:06:22pm |
re: #77 2by2
Can I get a heads-up about the white smoke?
White smoke indicates his insulation is burning from over-thinking... :P
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:06:50pm |
re: #75 redc1c4
i even wear them then... got a pic of my bro that made the Denver paper when he was at SDSU, front top of the sunday sports page. blowing snow, and he's in a sweater and shorts. %-)
SFV here: and you?
High Desert, in the Sierra foothills, near China Lake.
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boogberg Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:06:50pm |
Any "geeks" (or wannabe geeks) out there?
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:10:01pm |
re: #80 SurferDoc
High Desert, in the Sierra foothills, near China Lake.
gets a bit colder up there than here, plus more wind... even i might have to agree to the occasional no shorts day. %-)
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:11:02pm |
re: #77 2by2
Can I get a heads-up about the white smoke?
Smoke and Pyro
White Smoke---Covering/Screening only
Yellow Smoke---Designated target (Fire at will)
Purple Smoke---All after is sarcastic
Green Smoke---Kook Identifed
White Star Cluster---All Clear
Yellow Star Cluster---Cease-fire
Red Star Cluster---Danger
Some Examples:
Red says something smart and instead of "ducking," pops white smoke and disengages.
Anyone needing assistance might designate a post (or a thread in the subject line) with yellow smoke.
Prior to typing a sarcastic remark, "pop purple smoke." When removing tounge from cheek, send up a White Star Cluster.
Green star clusters would probaly be most effective for the person on SGT Casey's duty roster with an addition to a subject line.
Yellow star clusters used to designate a friendly under fire or to initiate compromise under a misunderstanding.
Red star custer, any kind of warning.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:11:57pm |
re: #61 SurferDoc
Sure. Imagine something larger than a softball and with more than half of it missing. One side is rounded and the other side looks as if it is broken. It is black and the surface is similar to a volcanic rock on the broken side and smoother on the rounded side. It is heavier than a rock that size "should" be. That is from memory. I just went to look where I thought it was and it wasn't there. We have a lot of rocks around the house.
Doesn't sound like a meteorite. Believe it or not, most rock shops don't know what a real meteorite looks like.
First off, there is no known fall in the Ludlow area. Second, the size of the piece. For it to be larger than a softball, the size of the original boloid would have been massive to have broken up into pieces that size. That boloid would have probably left some impact crater somewhere in that area.
Second, meteorites don't look like volcanic. Volcanic rocks have gas pockets, gas veins etc. Meteorites don't. Except for some shock veins, they are quite solid.
Third, it would not be black inside (well, 99 percent of the time). Stoney chondrites is basically a chocolate brown color, with flecks of iron scattered inside.
Take a magnet to it. If it's not magnetic, it's not a meteorite, unless it's a ferrous based meteor-wrong.
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:11:57pm |
re: #79 Karridine
White smoke indicates his insulation is burning from over-thinking... :P
ah, yes I know that noise of sizzling wires in my brain.
hey, I'm not a psychopath, just felt like, uhm,... being ignored, now I know better.
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:12:20pm |
re: #83 redc1c4
gets a bit colder up there than here, plus more wind... even i might have to agree to the occasional no shorts day. %-)
It is the cold, windy days that do it. Otherwise, shorts.
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Cygnus Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:13:53pm |
re: #20 Walter L. Newton
I love you avatar. I have a little plush Marvin here, he is seated, with his legs out in front of him. I have him on top of my TV. He is looking down into his lap, and between his legs I have placed a nice meteorite from my collection.
It just says something to me, the martian and the rock.
You have a meteorite collection? Cool! How many do you have?
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boogberg Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:13:57pm |
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:14:04pm |
more good news from the Middle East!
what do y'all think the lightweight will do about *this*?
(besides prevaricate, of course? %-)
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:14:39pm |
re: #81 boogberg
Any "geeks" (or wannabe geeks) out there?
I got most of the first page. Usually I drop out pretty fast if the skill level is progressively higher. I'm mostly a hardware geek (wannabe), so the coding questions and similar and beyond me.
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:15:07pm |
re: #84 redc1c4
that's a lot of code here, thanks, I'll copy that (literally) ...
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:15:41pm |
re: #86 Walter L. Newton
One added point on the color. The chocolate brown color I mentioned above is the inside. A fresh meteorite has a jet black 1-2cm fusion crust on the outside, although that will eventually weather away over the centuries, leaving the outside color the same as the inside. Depending on how long the rock has been sitting on the face of our planet, the fusion crust will be fresh looking, slightly worn looking or totally worn away.
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:15:46pm |
got folks in the AM again...
gonna go fix up the real fruitcup and the decoy.
hasta y'all...
L8r!
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Abu Al-Poopypants Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:16:16pm |
54°F tonight.
Last night it was 10°F at this time.
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redc1c4 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:16:36pm |
re: #93 2by2
that's a lot of code here, thanks, I'll copy that (literally) ...
it's from Usenet a few years back: alt.folklore.military and us.military.army
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LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:17:05pm |
re: #84 redc1c4
Smoke and Pyro
White Smoke---Covering/Screening only
Yellow Smoke---Designated target (Fire at will)
Purple Smoke---All after is sarcastic
Green Smoke---Kook Identifed
White Star Cluster---All Clear
Yellow Star Cluster---Cease-fire
Red Star Cluster---Danger
Some Examples:Red says something smart and instead of "ducking," pops white smoke and disengages.
Anyone needing assistance might designate a post (or a thread in the subject line) with yellow smoke.
Prior to typing a sarcastic remark, "pop purple smoke." When removing tounge from cheek, send up a White Star Cluster.
Green star clusters would probaly be most effective for the person on SGT Casey's duty roster with an addition to a subject line.
Yellow star clusters used to designate a friendly under fire or to initiate compromise under a misunderstanding.
Red star custer, any kind of warning.
White smoke is useful when correcting another lizard's spelling booboos...
tounge tongue
probaly probably
/Oh-oh. SHIT! How do you turn OFF this damn smoke thingie!
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Cygnus Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:17:42pm |
re: #64 SurferDoc
The pants are on. Well, shorts. This is California.
Speedos if you're in Southern California.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:18:52pm |
re: #89 Cygnus
You have a meteorite collection? Cool! How many do you have?
About 50 stoney pieces from different verified falls. Most in the 10-15 gram range.
Irons, I have only 7 specimens, I'm not that impressed with iron meteorites.
And then I have about 30 pounds of North West Africa unclassified pieces, from small 40-50 gram pieces to ones weighing up to a couple of pounds.
I also collect "impacta," which is earth material from craters that have been effected by a meteorite hitting.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:19:02pm |
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boogberg Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:19:19pm |
re: #92 SurferDoc
I got most of the first page. Usually I drop out pretty fast if the skill level is progressively higher. I'm mostly a hardware geek (wannabe), so the coding questions and similar and beyond me.
Yeah, on a scale of 1 to 10, I'm probably around a 3. :D
Fascinating stuff though.
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boogberg Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:21:13pm |
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:23:26pm |
re: #86 Walter L. Newton
Doesn't sound like a meteorite. Believe it or not, most rock shops don't know what a real meteorite looks like.
First off, there is no known fall in the Ludlow area. Second, the size of the piece. For it to be larger than a softball, the size of the original boloid would have been massive to have broken up into pieces that size. That boloid would have probably left some impact crater somewhere in that area.
Second, meteorites don't look like volcanic. Volcanic rocks have gas pockets, gas veins etc. Meteorites don't. Except for some shock veins, they are quite solid.
Third, it would not be black inside (well, 99 percent of the time). Stoney chondrites is basically a chocolate brown color, with flecks of iron scattered inside.
Take a magnet to it. If it's not magnetic, it's not a meteorite, unless it's a ferrous based meteor-wrong.
I'm sure you are correct. It is magnetic, though. I found it in a field of volcanic material. This piece was different, which is why I picked it up. We were rockhounding in those days and we brought home many, many rocks, so this really didn't have any great significance as we became more interested in the stone tools we were finding. Then we moved on to archeology.
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:23:43pm |
re: #98 LeePro
thanks, saved
is that a picture of you in your avatar, if I may ask?
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Nightwatch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:23:57pm |
What the h-e double -toothpicks is WHITE SMOKE?
Don't answer yet. I have to get more scotch...
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:27:08pm |
re: #109 Nightwatch
What the h-e double -toothpicks is WHITE SMOKE?
Don't answer yet. I have to get more scotch...
aah, another one of the uninitiated, like myself..(pouring a stiff dry Martini)
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:27:11pm |
re: #106 SurferDoc
I'm sure you are correct. It is magnetic, though. I found it in a field of volcanic material. This piece was different, which is why I picked it up. We were rockhounding in those days and we brought home many, many rocks, so this really didn't have any great significance as we became more interested in the stone tools we were finding. Then we moved on to archeology.
This is the BEST website for identifying meteor-wrongs. [Link: meteorites.wustl.edu...]
I have a few pre-columbian items left in my collection. At one time I had thousand of dollars worth of artifacts. It became a sort of obsession.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:30:45pm |
re: #89 Cygnus
You have a meteorite collection? Cool! How many do you have?
Forgot...
I also have a .020 gram piece of a lunar meteorite and a .030 gram piece of a martian meteorite.
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:31:23pm |
re: #112 Walter L. Newton
This is the BEST website for identifying meteor-wrongs. [Link: meteorites.wustl.edu...]
I have a few pre-columbian items left in my collection. At one time I had thousand of dollars worth of artifacts. It became a sort of obsession.
OK. Numbers 38 and 47 are roughly the same appearance as what I have.
I think we had/have "serial obsessions". We went from rockhounding to archeology to ghost towns to old mines. We're looking for "lost" mines now.
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LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:31:58pm |
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Nightwatch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:33:17pm |
re: #111 2by2
Sorry. Been here for...what can I say years? Just don't know the white smoke..."Charles, Can I get a ruling on this?
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itellu3times Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:07pm |
question for y'all late night lizards:
been to the mall lately? was it crowded?
I was at the mall Sunday - empty.
I was at the mall tonight - empty.
That's here in west Los Angeles.
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:08pm |
re: #116 Nightwatch
You've got a cool nic and an even cooler avatar, love it.
R van Rijn rules
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LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:35:23pm |
re: #108 2by2
thanks, saved
is that a picture of you in your avatar, if I may ask?
You're welcome!
You may, and yes it is! All 66 years of me!
Well, ok. I lied. That's only my face.
>;->
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boogberg Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:36:41pm |
re: #115 LeePro
Geez!
A whole 7 minutes, 10 seconds! ! ! !Chill, sonny.
"Sonny"? Lol!
So tell me. Why do you think I must be lonely?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:37:23pm |
re: #114 SurferDoc
OK. Numbers 38 and 47 are roughly the same appearance as what I have.
I think we had/have "serial obsessions". We went from rockhounding to archeology to ghost towns to old mines. We're looking for "lost" mines now.
Ain't no lost mines or ghost towns around here... just move on partner, nothing to see. LOL.
Well, then if you are ever in the Denver area, stop by in Golden for a day and I'll show you around, you would drool at the amount of these kind of sites with in 20 minutes of me.
Hell, you can go sit in a park in downtown Golden and pan real gold out of Clear Creek (that's where Coors gets that mountain spring water).
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:37:50pm |
re: #116 Nightwatch
Sorry. Been here for...what can I say years? Just don't know the white smoke..."Charles, Can I get a ruling on this?
look up on the thread # 84 by redc14c gave a very detailed explanation (military origin)
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:37:59pm |
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garycooper Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:39:05pm |
The opening quote about critics reminded me of the German film director Uwe Boll, who challenged his critics to take him on in the boxing ring. The unfortunate nerds who took him up on it all got KO'd in short order. It's the funniest scene in the Jamie Kennedy documentary "Heckler," which is really more about critics in general than hecklers in comedy clubs. In case anyone's interested, because Kennedy's humor is not specifically of the funny variety. But the doc was pretty interesting, with lots of familiar faces whining, joking or waxing philosophical or psychological about critics.
Oh, and Carrot Top's in it. I hadn't seen the guy for a few years, but he's hilarious-looking now. I doubt if his act is any better, but you should see what he's done to his face, with plastic surgery. I think he's using Michael Jackson's doctor. Plus, he's all pumped-up from lifting weights. Creepy-looking to the max, but he comes off in the doc as one of the more well-adjusted people, able to deal with whatever criticism he receives, and it doesn't seem to bother him. Good for him! :)
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:42:07pm |
re: #121 Walter L. Newton
Ain't no lost mines or ghost towns around here... just move on partner, nothing to see. LOL.
Well, then if you are ever in the Denver area, stop by in Golden for a day and I'll show you around, you would drool at the amount of these kind of sites with in 20 minutes of me.
Hell, you can go sit in a park in downtown Golden and pan real gold out of Clear Creek (that's where Coors gets that mountain spring water).
OK, looking at the page you posted more carefully, #93 is most likely what I have.
We have panned for gold in the Eastern Sierras and we dry-panned in our own desert here. However, back in the days when everyone had assault rifles, I took more money out of the desert in brass than most amateur miners ever got in gold. ;)
Thanks for the invite. If you ever come to the Mojave I will be happy to take you to some places we have found.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:42:37pm |
re: #124 garycooper
Yep, Carrot Top has jumped the shark... (caution, not safe for humans)...
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Nightwatch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:45:44pm |
re: #113 Walter L. Newton
Just for the thread, Did ya see the space station tonight?
Traversed the North-Western sky after dusk tracking to the South like a bright star but MOVING not like any aircraft in the sky, just very different from anything else? Heads-up from my friends at JPL allowed me to walk out of the ambulance bay at the E.R I was working at just in time to see it's passing. It is very bright when you catch it.
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Joan Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:46:31pm |
My blog got deleted. It had been a long time since I updated, at some point I must have decided not to blog independently, but hang around here. It is very lively here (heh-heh didn't I roll my eyes and call it a fistfight just the other day).
It is so difficult to run even a simple forum, imagine the work put in by real Fourth Estate folks, like Charles.
Through some fluke, I salvaged one or two posts. So starting over. Had to come up with another domain name. What the heck. Wish me luck, there is one film review I'm actually fond of, hope I can find it. It's more interesting here, but now and then the Muse seizes me. Fortunately, I'm harmless.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:46:43pm |
re: #125 SurferDoc
OK, looking at the page you posted more carefully, #93 is most likely what I have.
We have panned for gold in the Eastern Sierras and we dry-panned in our own desert here. However, back in the days when everyone had assault rifles, I took more money out of the desert in brass than most amateur miners ever got in gold. ;)
Thanks for the invite. If you ever come to the Mojave I will be happy to take you to some places we have found.
The gas pockets will give it away every time. The only time you will find evidence of molten material in an meteorite is in a pallasite, which is a piece of an planetoid from the area between the molten iron core and the stoney mantle.
I'll take you up on the desert visit some time. A lot of cool things for the taking out there.
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:47:11pm |
re: #119 LeePro
ok, I don't want to sound awkward, or weird, but there's something which touches my heart in that picture. I don't know what it is, can't put my finger on it, but it conveys a state of being which moves me.
Well I'm all visual, I'm a painter, so I might over react on it, but it seems to represent you in a very true moment.
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itellu3times Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:44pm |
no shoppers online 2nite?
maybe I'll check the thread again in the AM.
night, all.
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SurferDoc Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:50pm |
re: #129 Walter L. Newton
The gas pockets will give it away every time. The only time you will find evidence of molten material in an meteorite is in a pallasite, which is a piece of an planetoid from the area between the molten iron core and the stoney mantle.
I'll take you up on the desert visit some time. A lot of cool things for the taking out there.
I've got some pics of stone tools on this page. I'm going to be putting up some petroglyph pictures soon.
[Link: abouttime.yuku.com...]
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:49:55pm |
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Cygnus Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:50:08pm |
re: #127 Nightwatch
Just for the thread, Did ya see the space station tonight?
Traversed the North-Western sky after dusk tracking to the South like a bright star but MOVING not like any aircraft in the sky, just very different from anything else? Heads-up from my friends at JPL allowed me to walk out of the ambulance bay at the E.R I was working at just in time to see it's passing. It is very bright when you catch it.
You can find information about ISS transits on [Link: www.spaceweather.com...]
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Nightwatch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:50:49pm |
re: #84 redc1c4
Come on, purple is for MED-E-VAC is it not?
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2by2 Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:52:10pm |
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Cygnus Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:52:53pm |
I just peeked at my avatar. What is the 'Karma' for?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:54:46pm |
re: #138 Cygnus
Updings - downdings. Shows how good and liked by other lizards you are.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:55:31pm |
re: #132 SurferDoc
I've got some pics of stone tools on this page. I'm going to be putting up some petroglyph pictures soon.
[Link: abouttime.yuku.com...]
Ok, you got me hooked. I've been hanging around the mountains for so long, I forget that the desert is just as amazing.
The only pictures I was confused about is the red and then a silver jeep. Which one was yours/you?
Did you find the lost caverns?
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boogberg Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:34pm |
re: #138 Cygnus
I just peeked at my avatar. What is the 'Karma' for?
I'll tell you, but you have to gimme some of yours first! :D
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infopimp Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:39pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:57:43pm |
re: #132 SurferDoc
And if you are ever in my territory, remember, we have the School of Mines right here in Golden, a lot of nice stuff there open to the public. Golden was the jumping off point for all the mining activity of the late 1850's onward.
You can't walk ten feet around here without running into mining history.
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LeePro Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:58:28pm |
re: #130 2by2
ok, I don't want to sound awkward, or weird, but there's something which touches my heart in that picture. I don't know what it is, can't put my finger on it, but it conveys a state of being which moves me.
Well I'm all visual, I'm a painter, so I might over react on it, but it seems to represent you in a very true moment.
That is just about the sweetest sentiment anyone has ever given me. You have just lifted my spirits immeasurably!
That pic was taken at a particularly warm moment in my life. I was with an old friend of more that a half-century. We are still friends today.
Interesting, you being a painter, that you should say these things about that pic. Just recently another very old friend (also an artist) asked my permission to do a charcoal drawing of it as a gift to me.
Another coincidence... I, too, am an artist. Don't do much painting, but have done some charcoal, and love pen-and-ink. Lean more toward mechanical art --- commercial/graphic design --- retired now.
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Nightwatch Tue, Dec 9, 2008 11:59:54pm |
re: #138 Cygnus
O K? what the is this KARMA?
Be advised, if you reveal this to the nightwatch you may be banned.
I have not figured out this little add-on from Sir Charles yet.
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SurferDoc Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:02:09am |
re: #141 Walter L. Newton
Ok, you got me hooked. I've been hanging around the mountains for so long, I forget that the desert is just as amazing.
The only pictures I was confused about is the red and then a silver jeep. Which one was yours/you?
Did you find the lost caverns?
The silver Rubicon is mine. The red one belongs to a guy at the Rubicon owners' forum. I just reposted the pics of the red one for my friends. They are pretty spectacular shots.
We haven't been able to get up into the area where the mine is supposed to be yet. We went out over Thanksgiving and the rain had flooded the approach to the canyon and I didn't feel like washing mud out from under the Jeep for days afterward so now we are waiting a few weeks for the road to dry out. We are going to a rough area in the South Panamint range
via Coyote Canyon.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:02:52am |
re: #147 Sharmuta
Oh noes- Is iz registrd @ lolcats!
Ok, I was going to bed and I see your post. I'm not into the cats thing, but I won't be able to sleep unless you tell me what the heck you said there.
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:03:27am |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:07:11am |
re: #148 SurferDoc
The silver Rubicon is mine. The red one belongs to a guy at the Rubicon owners' forum. I just reposted the pics of the red one for my friends. They are pretty spectacular shots.
We haven't been able to get up into the area where the mine is supposed to be yet. We went out over Thanksgiving and the rain had flooded the approach to the canyon and I didn't feel like washing mud out from under the Jeep for days afterward so now we are waiting a few weeks for the road to dry out. We are going to a rough area in the South Panamint range
via Coyote Canyon.
Gosh, I miss being able to get out to the outdoors like that. So many things have changed in my life, I can't afford to spend the money to do things like that anymore.
But I still live in a good area, close enough to see and touch a little natural history. Just can't do the big trips anymore.
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:07:52am |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:09:00am |
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:10:11am |
re: #146 Nightwatch
O K? what the is this KARMA?
Be advised, if you reveal this to the nightwatch you may be banned.
I have not figured out this little add-on from Sir Charles yet.
re: #138 Cygnus
I just peeked at my avatar. What is the 'Karma' for?
It is the sum total of your up-dings minus down-dings.
;)
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:10:43am |
re: #148 SurferDoc
Oh, by the way, if you click on my name, go to my website and if you want to email me your address, I will send you a package, free of charge, or some real meteorite pieces, with informational material included.
A number of Lizards have received these "gifts" over the years, I extend my offer to you.
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2by2 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:12:03am |
re: #145 LeePro
Lee, glad to hear that, was already worried that I overstepped the boundaries here, just had that feeling when I pulled up the picture, noticed it before, but when I looked at it tonight clearly felt the vibe coming out of it.
Mostly doing figure paintings, but portraits have been a constant for me for the past 30 years, always in the same format, always frontal and I'm trying to be as true to what I'm seeing as possible, sometimes seeing more.
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:12:18am |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:12:58am |
re: #155 Sharmuta
Here it is, my very first lolcat.
Now you got me confused. I was going to bed, satisfied that I understood all this and then you link to that picture.
Where the fuck is the cat? Or should I say where is the fucking cat? And I didn't know you were pro-creation?
I'm so confused.
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SurferDoc Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:13:31am |
re: #152 Walter L. Newton
Gosh, I miss being able to get out to the outdoors like that. So many things have changed in my life, I can't afford to spend the money to do things like that anymore.
But I still live in a good area, close enough to see and touch a little natural history. Just can't do the big trips anymore.
I consider myself fortunate that I can still get out there. I love being able to see and touch history, also. Getting that Rubicon was a step toward eliminating any excuses I had to not go out there. THe previuos Jeep I had didn't have enough guts for the rough trails out there.
It's only a forty mile trip to the Panamints and who knows, maybe the caverns are more than just an old legend. I plan to keep going out there until I can't anymore. With luck that ought to be more than a few years.
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2by2 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:14:02am |
re: #153 LeePro
Oh, my! Oh, my!
This is a helluva time to celebrate 20-years-sober (next May!).
love that pic, you got it.
thanks for being here, you made my day/night as well.
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SurferDoc Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:14:54am |
re: #157 Walter L. Newton
Oh, by the way, if you click on my name, go to my website and if you want to email me your address, I will send you a package, free of charge, or some real meteorite pieces, with informational material included.
A number of Lizards have received these "gifts" over the years, I extend my offer to you.
Thank you. I will do that.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:16:40am |
re: #160 Walter L. Newton
Walter- icanhazcheeseburger (lolcats) also has pics of other animals, even celebrities.
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boogberg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:17:28am |
re: #153 LeePro
Oh, my! Oh, my!
This is a helluva time to celebrate 20-years-sober (next May!).
I swear, I was just thinking 'what if LeePro doesn't drink?'
I kid you not. But then I realized she would have made it clear when I said "would you care for a cocktail before dinner?"
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:21:09am |
re: #164 Sharmuta
Walter- icanhazcheeseburger (lolcats) also has pics of other animals, even celebrities.
Holy shit, that kitten with the sprig of broccoli was scary. I think something strange is happening with our pets, right under our noses and we don't know it.
We see it as "cute," I see it as a fifth column.
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:21:23am |
re: #158 2by2
Wow! Great textures.
I like the (charcoal? pencil? pen/ink? combo?) drawings best.
Did you know your link "on 9/11 5th anniversary" isn't working?
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Sloppy Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:23:02am |
Re #153 - LeePro
Early congrats on 20 years. Keep comin' back.
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Nightwatch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:23:32am |
re: #140 2by2
Come now, it is that obvious to you is it not? He painted the "NIGHTWATCH" to show the commitment of the locals to protect their city. I thought it an appropo avatar since my neighbors in MY community already know me to be the man with the modern day "pike" standing watch on their street. Even LAPD Air Units know my profile. So the avatar.
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2by2 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:24:33am |
re: #167 LeePro
Wow! Great textures.
I like the (charcoal? pencil? pen/ink? combo?) drawings best.Did you know your link "on 9/11 5th anniversary" isn't working?
thanks,
yeah, I need to overhaul the whole site, have not updated it for quite some time, too much real world things to do.
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yochanan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:24:38am |
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:25:29am |
re: #166 Walter L. Newton
I once had a cat that liked raw broccoli.
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:25:35am |
re: #165 boogberg
I swear, I was just thinking 'what if LeePro doesn't drink?'
I kid you not. But then I realized she would have made it clear when I said "would you care for a cocktail before dinner?"
I'd probably just innocently order my "usual"... ginger & tonic with lime wedge. Looks like a cocktail, nobody bugs me!
Heh.
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:28:12am |
re: #168 Sloppy
Re #153 - LeePro
Early congrats on 20 years. Keep comin' back.
Heh. Thanks! It's gonna be a BIG one [wondering how to celebrate...?]
Forgot your count... remind me?
Keep comin' back... LOVE the universality! It's the same ALL OVER THE WORLD ! ! !
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2by2 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:31:04am |
re: #169 Nightwatch
Come now, it is that obvious to you is it not? He painted the "NIGHTWATCH" to show the commitment of the locals to protect their city. I thought it an appropo avatar since my neighbors in MY community already know me to be the man with the modern day "pike" standing watch on their street. Even LAPD Air Units know my profile. So the avatar.
cool, I really appreciate this.
I'll take it that you're a cop; I don't believe that many of your colleagues would refer to the Nightwatch as their sign of the trade.
Hey, only on LGF!
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Nightwatch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:33:54am |
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2by2 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:34:22am |
Got to catch some shut eye,
great conversation, thanks all and G'nite Lizards.
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:35:23am |
re: #169 Nightwatch
Come now, it is that obvious to you is it not? He painted the "NIGHTWATCH" to show the commitment of the locals to protect their city. I thought it an appropo avatar since my neighbors in MY community already know me to be the man with the modern day "pike" standing watch on their street. Even LAPD Air Units know my profile. So the avatar.
So, was I right?
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yochanan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:40:29am |
well the buffalo is trying to mount a scupture of a buffalo a buff blow up doll made of bronze.
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:40:44am |
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Nightwatch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:41:22am |
re: #175 2by2
No, I have no Badge, I am only a citizen, with a very proficent use of arms (military) I just have bigger stones than the rest of my neighbors, and they love me for it...:) MY wife...she wishes I would keep my stones in the bedroom!...;].
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:41:37am |
re: #177 2by2
Got to catch some shut eye,
great conversation, thanks all and G'nite Lizards.
'Nite, 2by2!
Thanks again for the upswing!
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:43:49am |
re: #169 Nightwatch
Sorry to intrude, but is it this one painting that you rightfully admire or do you (as I do) have an affinity for the Dutch masters in general? And increasingly, we need more citizens to carry the "pike".
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 12:45:50am |
re: #184 Nightwatch
No, I have no Badge, I am only a citizen, with a very proficent use of arms (military) I just have bigger stones than the rest of my neighbors, and they love me for it...:) MY wife...she wishes I would keep my stones in the bedroom!...;].
I knew it! See?
I KNEW we could turn this into a male-body-parts thread if we really tried!
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LeePro Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:07:58am |
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Joan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:11:07am |
re: #3 psyop
Crap, I need sleep.
I can hold out another 90 minutes, close enough to official morning, then I'll catch a few zzz
/do I want an alarm system? yes
//do I want a firearm? shotgun: yes handgun: yes, but my other half would freak out totally and foam at the mouth if I got either one
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steve Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:11:55am |
OT rant: I would like to toss all 3 of my supervisors and their manager out the door. I bid on a different position in a different department(more money) and they refuse to let me go because "I am to valuable."
"Okay", says I, then make it worth my while to stay.
They replied, we can let you go at any time.
"Then I must not be as valuable as you say so how about letting be go to the other department."
Cannot do that, says they. And then they walk off.
C**p company.
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steve Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:13:35am |
re: #191 Joan
I can hold out another 90 minutes, close enough to official morning, then I'll catch a few zzz
/do I want an alarm system? yes
//do I want a firearm? shotgun: yes handgun: yes, but my other half would freak out totally and foam at the mouth if I got either one
Take your other half out shooting and see what happens.
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Boogberg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:19:19am |
re: #192 steve
Dude. Now is not the time to fuck with your employers. It's not an employee's market.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:22:14am |
re: #194 Boogberg
Your right, but some companies are like that. I myself made a few requests of transfer, but they seem to fall on deaf ears. Think most managers are lazy and don't want to deal with some issues.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:26:43am |
re: #196 rightside
Morning rightside. You're in early today.
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Boogberg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:28:14am |
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rightside Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:33:57am |
re: #197 BlueCanuck
Morning BC, actually, I have been here all night, just rarely posting. Working midnights this and next week.
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Boogberg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:38:23am |
re: #195 BlueCanuck
Your right, but some companies are like that. I myself made a few requests of transfer, but they seem to fall on deaf ears. Think most managers are lazy and don't want to deal with some issues.
I understand that. But you have to be realistic here. I work for a small company. We had 50 employees three months ago. now we have 24. It's really not the time to show your ass. Pick up a newspaper, if you don't believe me.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:40:01am |
re: #201 Boogberg
Oh, I believe you. But my requests were made starting almost a year ago, and before the economy fell in the crapper.
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Boogberg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:50:08am |
re: #202 BlueCanuck
Aren't you thankful to have a job now though? My fucking supervisor got laid off for crying out loud! My advice: Be as productive as you can and keep your mouth shut.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:59:04am |
kitty doesn't want solider to leave
[Link: icanhascheezburger.com...]
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Dec 10, 2008 1:59:32am |
All this talk about how crappy the economy is has me hankering for a fruitcup stimulus plan...
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:00:02am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:00:36am |
Good morning littleoldlady. Thanks for the fruitcup.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:03:09am |
Jeez, LoL...can you imagine the Dems having the CEOs of Chiquita Brands, Dole and Tropicana grovelling for a lifeline like they did with the big 3 automakers?
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Boogberg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:05:55am |
Any strawberries in fruit cup this morning? I love strawberries.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:05:58am |
re: #209 Fenway_Nation
Jeez, LoL...can you imagine the Dems having the CEOs of Chiquita Brands, Dole and Tropicana grovelling for a lifeline like they did with the big 3 automakers?
Are they still American companies?
/I better hush up or I'll be giving those furrin' companies ideas...
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:06:21am |
Kitten Break!
[Link: www.dailykitten.com...]
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:06:52am |
re: #206 littleoldlady
Dear lady, do I still get fruit cup despite my Karma?
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:07:42am |
rightside! :-)
Boogberg! :-)
Sure, strawberries. Why not? Blueberries, too. Hey, let's go for broke (literally) and throw in some rasperries and blackberries...
;-)
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:08:03am |
re: #206 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!
Morning lol thanks for fruitcup.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:08:56am |
re: #215 fiat_lux
Dear lady, do I still get fruit cup despite my Karma?
Holy cannoli! What did you do?!
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:09:07am |
re: #213 littleoldlady
Actually, I think Tropicana or MinuteMaid are wholly owned subsidiaries of Coke. Alot of the large-scale pineapple cultivation has moved from Hawaii to the Philippines. Not to mention I think they had Chiquita in mind when they coined the term 'Banana Republic'...
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:09:59am |
re: #218 littleoldlady
Holy cannoli! What did you do?!
Fiat likes to have fun on the ID threads with Salimantis and Sham.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:10:49am |
re: #222 Erik The Red
Fiat likes to have fun on the ID threads with Salimantis and
ShamSharmuta.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:11:24am |
re: #215 fiat_lux
Last time I saw a karma that low the poster was banned. 0_o
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:11:59am |
re: #214 Jewels (AKA Julian)
The Daily Kitten runs on WordPress and sunshine and lollipops.
That's cute.
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Mel Lono Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:14:26am |
re: #218 littleoldlady
Sorry I'm late.. morning maam. Wait... how can I be late?.. it's early.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:15:09am |
Hiya Mel! :-)
There is no "late". There's just dark:30...
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:15:35am |
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:17:07am |
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:17:17am |
Dear Lady, I have offended many senior lizards. Due to my inarticulateness and my temper ,I have become a pariah. I do not waver on my beliefs I just wish I were able to express them more artciulately.
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Mel Lono Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:17:17am |
re: #229 littleoldlady
Hiya Mel! :-)
There is no "late". There's just dark:30...
Used to call that 0'dark 30 lol.
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:19:33am |
A Grand Good Morning from the most corrupt state in the Union...ILLINOIS!
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:19:33am |
Thanks for the fruitcup, lol.
You may have missed it, but I created my first ever lolcat, though, it's not a cat.
*Do not click link with food or liquid in mouth as spewing may result.*
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:19:49am |
re: #235 Mel Lono
Used to call that 0'dark 30 lol.
O'dark 30? We used to call it O'dark hundred.
/no sleeping in for us.
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Mel Lono Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:19:49am |
re: #234 fiat_lux
Dear Lady, I have offended many senior lizards. Due to my inarticulateness and my temper ,I have become a pariah. I do not waver on my beliefs I just wish I were able to express them more
artciulately.
articularily. Fixed that for ya...
Bushmills neat, please.
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Mel Lono Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:21:41am |
re: #238 BlueCanuck
O'dark 30? We used to call it O'dark hundred.
/no sleeping in for us.
you are correct, sir. midwatch had to be up a 1/2 hr early or the 'rats would be gone.
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Boogberg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:22:32am |
re: #228 Mel Lono
Sorry I'm late.. morning maam. Wait... how can I be late?.. it's early.
If you like fruitcup, don't be late. :D
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:22:44am |
re: #234 fiat_lux
You can have fruitcup if you promise to behave.
/I'm afraid you'll starve otherwise! ;-)
Hissy fits on the Dead Thread are particularly annoying.
Bring up creationism here and I'll be borrowing Mandy's 2x4 to use on you...
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:23:16am |
re: #239 Mel Lono
Thank you, I was goong to for speed. Old Bushmills is still my favorite.
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:23:17am |
re: #241 Fenway_Nation
In your face, Louisiana!
But I live in Illinois...:) And just what the hell am I grinning about?
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:23:44am |
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:24:04am |
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:24:33am |
re: #244 littleoldlady
I'm non-military. ;-)
Okay we will now teach lady close order drill...right shoulder fruit cup!
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:25:10am |
re: #247 Erik The Red
In both your faces. You can't get much worse than Africa. You guys are still using training wheels.
I like training wheels...:)
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Mel Lono Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:27:00am |
re: #245 fiat_lux
Thank you, I was goong to for speed. Old Bushmills is still my favorite.
At the risk of crossing the line, have you tried Black Bush?
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:27:51am |
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:28:46am |
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:28:59am |
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:29:22am |
re: #225 Erik The Red
I do. Until I have to apologize to both when my frustration surfaces. I am not proud of that.
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:31:02am |
re: #254 Dustyvet
Grand Fenwick!
Grand Duchess Gloriana: How did the war go?
Tulley Bascombe: Well, this is a bit of a surprise. A pleasant one, I hope. I think we've won.
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:32:03am |
re: #226 BlueCanuck
I am shocked that I am still around. I remain for the Grace of Charles and my desire for fruit cup.
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:33:26am |
re: #256 fiat_lux
I believe your major mistake was not leaving that thread when (was it Erik the Red) invited you to, to come to the open thread for redemption. IMHO.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:34:04am |
re: #254 Dustyvet
It shall be a sultry, tropical, resource-rich South American country with plenty of sunshine, coastline and goregeous Latinas. Once that pesky socialist dictator 'accidently' die during a freak margharita-blending accent, his cadres will be eliminated in a popular uprising and I will take the opportunity to seize power.
And I shall call this glorious nation Fenwayzuela...
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:34:54am |
re: #258 fiat_lux
I am shocked that I am still around. I remain for the Grace of Charles and my desire for fruit cup.
Stay away from the ID threads. Your karma may slowly go up and your blood pressure will go down.
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Mel Lono Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:36:26am |
Uncle John's Band, a classic ending.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:36:35am |
re: #261 Fenway_Nation
Lol. 10 point to Fenway. 100 if there are nymphs aplenty.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:38:17am |
re: #260 Pietr
I believe your major mistake was not leaving that thread when (was it Erik the Red) invited you to, to come to the open thread for redemption. IMHO.
For the love of littleoldlady, I'm going to refrain from comment.
So... how about them [your area sports team here]?
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:40:34am |
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:41:02am |
re: #266 Sharmuta
Well there's rumours of a sports team here in Toronto, but I don't believe it.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:41:02am |
re: #247 Erik The Red
In both your faces. You can't get much worse than Africa. You guys are still using training wheels.
Just one example of our corruption.Happen this morning
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:41:16am |
re: #266 Sharmuta
For the love of littleoldlady, I'm going to refrain from comment.
So... how about them [your area sports team here]?
I think it would be good for my new-found nation's morale if Fenwayzuela's World Cup Team does better than their entry to the second World Baseball Classic...
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:41:38am |
re: #267 littleoldlady
See?! I *am* capable of self-restraint. ;p
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:42:05am |
re: #262 Erik The Red
Wise counsel. I will comment, but I will not engage in strident debate.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:42:46am |
re: #268 BlueCanuck
Well...there are the Blue Jays, but you won't be seeing hide nor hair of them 'til spring training...
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:43:48am |
re: #266 Sharmuta
Spurs/NBA...Beat Dallas Mavs in 2x OT tonite. Since we've got Manu Ginobli and Tony Parker back healthy, they're picking up.
Steelers/NFL...seem to be cruising along right now. Any favorite team for you, Ma'm?
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:43:55am |
How 'bout dem Phillies?!
/that has to last me for about 30 years... :-/
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:44:32am |
re: #277 littleoldlady
How 'bout dem Phillies?!
/that has to last me for about 30 years... :-/
Horsies?
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:44:43am |
re: #268 BlueCanuck
Speaking of bad karma... there was still action on the Nirther thread into this (last?) evening.
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Mel Lono Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:46:46am |
re: #274 Boogberg
Was that Dennis Miller getting the twirl? YaH.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:47:14am |
Well- in local sports here, Hefty Smurf kicked the crap out of Jokey Smurf for like the smurftieth time.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:48:38am |
re: #279 Sharmuta
Yeah, I heard someone mention that earlier today. Some people just don't know when to quit. Must be some short circuit that makes them start thinking in loops or something.
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:49:12am |
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:50:03am |
re: #281 Sharmuta
Well- in local sports here, Hefty Smurf kicked the crap out of Jokey Smurf for like the smurftieth time.
Hefty always did have a wicked left hook...:)
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:50:59am |
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:51:00am |
re: #283 BlueCanuck
Yeah, I heard someone mention that earlier today. Some people just don't know when to quit. Must be some short circuit that makes them start thinking in loops or something.
What possible enjoyment can be had by going to a dead thread to ding and or comment? It's like talking to yourself and agreeing with everything you say.
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Boogberg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:52:04am |
re: #280 Mel Lono
Was that Dennis Miller getting the twirl? YaH.
Now that you mention it, I think it was. Holy crap. He looks like a frikken teenager! :D
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:53:44am |
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:54:56am |
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:55:29am |
re: #293 Dustyvet
Francis, the Talking Mule-a Male-hence the 'I' in the name.
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:57:00am |
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:57:49am |
re: #293 Dustyvet
I don't, but YouTube does! ;-)
/very handy for those of us with nearly non-stop Senior Moments.
Donald O'Connor never got the kudos for the talent he had, IMO.
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Crux Australis Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:57:57am |
Greetings from Sydney, Australia. It's nearly 10pm on a warm and humid Wednesday night. It has been raining continuously for the last 9-10 hours. I love it. Australia needs all the rain it can get. Some places have been in drought for NINE years.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 2:59:02am |
Crux! :-)
Raining here, too.
/godforbid we should get rain in the summer when I'm actually trying to grow things!
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:00:54am |
Well- you know Jokey- he just can't help himself some days. Well- it wasn't the best day to select Hefty for a joke (is it ever?).
But- what's worse is now we in Smurf Village have Homeland Security breathing down our necks.
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:01:41am |
re: #302 Sharmuta
Well- you know Jokey- he just can't help himself some days. Well- it wasn't the best day to select Hefty for a joke (is it ever?).
But- what's worse is now we in Smurf Village have Homeland Security breathing down our necks.
And which wee Smurf be in charge of that?
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:02:31am |
re: #283 BlueCanuck
Yeah, I heard someone mention that earlier today. Some people just don't know when to quit. Must be some short circuit that makes them start thinking in loops or something.
There seems to be plenty of that going around, Blue.
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:02:35am |
re: #293 Dustyvet
The mules voice was supplied by Chill Wills.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:02:55am |
Ok late to thread and all, but after Weezer's last single Trouble Maker, I'm not feeling that wild about them.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:04:42am |
Good Morning Spare O'Lake. It's almost my night, only two hours till shifts end, and it's my Friday. OH YEAH!
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:04:48am |
Trivia question (since littleoldlady supplied the Link)...who did the voice for Francis the Talking mule? You should know this one...:.)
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Crux Australis Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:04:57am |
re: #301 littleoldlady
Anything grows in Australia in the summer. You can almost see the grass grow as you look at it.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:05:46am |
re: #305 fiat_lux
The mules voice was supplied by Chill Wills.
Didn't know that never even heard of the show. Before my time. Enjoyed the clip. How many shows were made?
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:06:04am |
re: #305 fiat_lux
Answered my trivia question while I was typing it...LOL-winner!
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:07:47am |
re: #281 Sharmuta
Well- in local sports here, Hefty Smurf kicked the crap out of Jokey Smurf for like the smurftieth time.
Well the rumour I heard was that it was all brought on by matches or something.
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:09:46am |
re: #311 Erik The Red
Didn't know that never even heard of the show. Before my time. Enjoyed the clip. How many shows were made?
* Francis (1950) (aka Francis the Talking Mule)
* Francis Goes to the Races (1951)
* Francis Goes to West Point (1952)
* Francis Covers the Big Town (1953)
* Francis Joins the WACS (1954)
* Francis in the Navy (1955)
* Francis in the Haunted House (1956}
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:10:40am |
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:11:20am |
re: #316 Dustyvet
A series of seven movies...Dunno that it made a TV series ever.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:12:38am |
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:12:53am |
re: #318 Pietr
A series of seven movies...Dunno that it made a TV series ever.
No all movies.
The seventh and final entry in the series, Francis in the Haunted House, was made without any of the key creative personnel. Leonard Maltin, in most editions of his Movie Guide, says O'Connor quit, quoting the actor, "When you've made six pictures and the mule still gets more fan mail than you do..."
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:13:01am |
Ok so here's some shameless advice seeking, but since y'all seem to very level headed people it seems to be a good place to look for it. My brother is back from South Korea on leave. He is in the Army and has been married for roughly a year and a half. He is twenty one and his wife is thirty six. She has been cheating on him for six months and he found this out the day he got back. He has been mulling over divorce for the last few days and can't make a definitive decision. I normally would suggest counseling and what not to him, but she is a very mean and self-centered person. She treats him very badly (hence the cheating), and I would like to be able to tip the scale for him, but don't want to seem bias or pit him against me.
P.S. I know it's a lot to ask from a group that I have just recently met, but time is limited and I have been a lurker for so long sometimes I am more emboldened than I should be.
Thank you
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:13:19am |
re: #316 Dustyvet
Thanks will try and find them later tonite.
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:14:03am |
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:15:03am |
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Stonemason Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:15:20am |
re: #321 WestTexas
From a lurker that has been divorced, twice, anything that can save the marriage is worth it.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:15:20am |
re: #314 BlueCanuck
Well the rumour I heard was that it was all brought on by matches or something.
Jokey's presents go boom.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:17:05am |
Looks like the Canadian Liberal Party has finally resolved its leadership issues with Dion having agreed to resign immediately and with Michael Ignatieff now being the only remaining leadership candidate since Bob Rae dropped out yesterday.
Watch for Ignatieff to be anointed by Liberal caucus and the party executive by today or tomorrow.
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:17:43am |
re: #243 littleoldlady
Thank you dear lady, I will retire for the night. I will be more circumspect in what I post.
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:20:09am |
re: #312 Pietr
That was before google. I t was part of my childhood.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:20:09am |
re: #321 WestTexas
I would suggest counseling- for him, so he can be okay with or without her.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:20:14am |
Damn. I'm Grouchy!
/I'm not "set in my ways" because I'm Grouchy. I'm set in my ways because I'm OLD. That's what us OLD PEOPLE do!
Can I take the test again tomorrow of I'm in a better mood? :-(
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:20:14am |
re: #321 WestTexas
Ouch, I would suggest the divorce route. If she's cheated on him, is cruel and mean, that's one person he doesn't need in his life. Especially if he's in the military.
/why do divorces cost so much? Because they're worth it.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:21:28am |
re: #332 littleoldlady
That's okay. I got two pop-ups that said I was Grouchy and Brainy. :D
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:21:43am |
re: #325 Stonemason
re: #327 Erik The Red
Ok well it's very in depth I like Eric the Reds attitude, but then again I am extremely biased. They don't have children yet, and so far since he went to the service he has sent every pay check home to her, and only kept a hundred dollars a month to himself. She has nothing to show for it. Their apartment looks like a crack den. It's very upsetting.
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:21:58am |
re: #332 littleoldlady
Damn. I'm Grouchy!
/I'm not "set in my ways" because I'm Grouchy. I'm set in my ways because I'm OLD. That's what us OLD PEOPLE do!
Can I take the test again tomorrow of I'm in a better mood? :-(
I heard my wife crying in the bathroom. 'Honey? What's wrong' I asked.
'Oh, George! Just look at me: I'm getting so old! I have more gray in my hair than blonde, I have varicose veins on both of my legs, and I'm just fat and wrinkled all over! I really need someone to say something positive about me right now!'
I looked deeply into her eyes and said softly: 'Your vision's real good, honey. That's something, isn't it?'
And that's when the fight started...
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:22:14am |
re: #335 Sharmuta
So, according to the site you have a split personality.
/honest that's what it says at the bottom under the click button.
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:22:38am |
re: #328 Spare O'Lake
Are they still gonna go after Harper all willy-nilly?
If I was a Canuck, I'd be sure to have a mouthful of whiskey so I could do an adequate spit-take should some Liberal try to explain to me that forming a coalition government with the Green Party and A Political Party Dedicated to The Dissolution of Canada would be in the best interest of the Dominion...
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:22:55am |
re: #335 Sharmuta
Hello Sharmuta, big fan. FYI i'm a painter smurf.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:24:29am |
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Fenway_Nation Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:25:14am |
re: #335 Sharmuta
I didn't even know there was a manic Boston sports fanatic smurf...
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:26:01am |
Plus he found out that she was cheating because when he came home the guy was there. Not by accident either, he lives there and has for a couple of months. It's pretty sick and something you would only see out of the worst rednecks. He understandably freaked out, but now she has done a number sweet talking him. I just fear that if it continues it will only get worse.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:26:54am |
re: #340 WestTexas
Aww- thanks.
Look- all I can say about other people's relationships is your brother needs to be honest with himself. Can't live a lie. I know- I've tried. It doesn't work. Sounds to me like that might be what's going on for him. Though he may be an honest person, it's possible to deceive yourself. That's why I suggest he talk to a professional.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:28:02am |
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Jim in Virginia Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:30:00am |
Morning all. Sharmuta, do you ever sleep?
Most Presidents don't have scandals until they've been inaugurated. Barry hasn't yet won the electoral college.
It's a historic presidency.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:30:20am |
re: #343 WestTexas
I think this marriage is a lost cause, unfortunately... :-(
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:30:48am |
re: #343 WestTexas
Wow! That's really disrespectful on her part. Why does your brother feel he's not worthy of being respected?
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fiat_lux Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:31:02am |
re: #335 Sharmuta
Sharmuta, my apology was sincere. G'night.
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Jim in Virginia Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:31:14am |
re: #332 littleoldlady
We are NOT old!
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:31:50am |
re: #344 Sharmuta
re: #333 BlueCanuck
Thank you all for the advice, and I am hoping that I can put it to good use. We haven't been able to talk much lately, but I love him and only wish him the best. I guess the best option would be for me just to tell him how I feel with deep felt honesty and pray for the best.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:32:01am |
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:32:10am |
re: #339 Fenway_Nation
Are they still gonna go after Harper all willy-nilly?
If I was a Canuck, I'd be sure to have a mouthful of whiskey so I could do an adequate spit-take should some Liberal try to explain to me that forming a coalition government with the Green Party and A Political Party Dedicated to The Dissolution of Canada would be in the best interest of the Dominion...
I'm not 100% sure, but Ignatieff will probably throw the LIB/NDP/BQ coalition under the bus in short order. For a Liberal (*spit*) he seems more principled than Dion and Rae put together - which ain't sayin' much.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:33:35am |
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:33:39am |
re: #321 WestTexas
Good morning, Lizards.
{West Texas}:
1. Suggest that, no matter what, your brother consult a lawyer to protect his interests. He can file for divorce now and decide later not to finalize it. I think a separation would be a good idea so that they can reassess their goals.
2. Do they BOTH want to save the marriage? If so, they BOTH commit to that one goal and do EVERYTHING to work towards that, including counseling. If not, and I'm afraid from what you described, she may not, tell him to let go now.
3. Is it absolutely true that she cheated? I have grave concerns over a wife of less than a year behaving as she has, but if there's any possibility that this accusation is NOT true, it would be awful to make decisions based on a rumor.
May I add him to the Prayer List?
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:34:10am |
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:34:41am |
re: #348 Sharmuta
I am the oldest of four boys with a single mother. We did not have any real kind of male role model growing up and he and the other brother in the middle have not dealt with it well. My youngest brother and myself are pretty well balanced, minus the eccentricities. :-)
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:35:18am |
re: #352 WestTexas
With that much dishonesty and disrespect in his marriage, your brother needs someone to be honest with him, but be gentle, because I'm sure he also needs to feel he's loved.
I would tell him that you love him, he's worthy of being loved and respected, and that a professional counselor will be able to help cut through the fog so he can make good decisions for himself.
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:35:32am |
re: #321 WestTexas
Considering the age difference, no kids, and that he is being put at risk for STD's-I'd say tell him to think real carefully on it. Tell him all the Pro and Con that you see in the relationship, and support him until he decides. But he needs to decide before he reports back to duty, so he can get things started if he elects divorce.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:36:36am |
re: #359 Sharmuta
With that much dishonesty and disrespect in his marriage, your brother needs someone to be honest with him, but be gentle, because I'm sure he also needs to feel he's loved.
I would tell him that you love him, he's worthy of being loved and respected, and that a professional counselor will be able to help cut through the fog so he can make good decisions for himself.
West Texas, read this again.
I posted my comment before I saw yours about the other guy living there. Ask your brother what he would tell you if YOU were in the same situation.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:37:14am |
Good morning, goddess.
I agree- West Texas' brother should get a lawyer regardless.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:37:23am |
re: #356 goddessoftheclassroom
Of course, prayers are always welcomed. The cheating is definite. Besides meeting the "man" and reading emails between the two, she refused to hug, kiss, or touch him since he has been home.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:38:55am |
re: #365 WestTexas
Of course, prayers are always welcomed. The cheating is definite. Besides meeting the "man" and reading emails between the two, she refused to hug, kiss, or touch him since he has been home.
That's not a marriage.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:39:23am |
Sorry I am typing slow. Work, it's no fun. :-)
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:41:06am |
WestTexas, if he needs counselling have him check out his unit. Unfortunately situations like this aren't uncommon in the military. If they don't have a cousellor they should be able to steer him in the direction of one.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:42:48am |
re: #365 WestTexas
Of course, prayers are always welcomed. The cheating is definite. Besides meeting the "man" and reading emails between the two, she refused to hug, kiss, or touch him since he has been home.
No to sound insensitive but going by what you have told us your bother need needs to dump this BITCH now. Get him into your home and give him as much support as you can. If he needs to see a pro. insist that he does. He is still young and deserves better.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:42:50am |
re: #366 Sharmuta
I know it's enough to tear me in two. I just want to find a way to keep him from having to deal with it, but that is the protective side of me. You know I practically raised all three of them. This is been the biggest challenge he has faced yet. I went through a similar situation at his age, but thankfully I was never married so it was so much easier to walk away. I am really not a pro divorce type, but this time it might be necessary.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:43:33am |
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:44:11am |
re: #369 BlueCanuck
His unit is in Korea-he needs to talk to both base legal, and the chaplain, at the nearest base, before returning to Korea.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:44:20am |
re: #365 WestTexas
I got to tell you- that makes me want to cry for your brother. This is why he needs to see a professional- someone who can help him sort out why it is he feels this is what he deserves in a relationship. He needs to value himself- he's worth more than that. I also think he should run from this woman.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:45:33am |
Lizard Prayer List 12/10/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope
Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.
Thanksgivings
Lizard friends
Vxbush: health issues diagnosed
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans
Health issues:
Dublic(CA)Dude – extensive cancer
gettinby: sister diagnosed with Sjogren’s Syndrome
Yochanan: d-i-l (ronite bas golda) undergoing surgery.
Knitwit: niece Elizabeth has a nasty MRSA infection after orthopedic surgery
tfc3rid: gf's 89 year old grandmother (suffered a a large stroke and is in rehab) and her uncle who is suffering from throat cancer; and continued prayers for dad who has MS
Steve C: Baby Katie’s heart surgery
Typicalwhitey: father’s undergoing tests for pancreatic cancer
MNsnowlizard: Had open heart surgery in February (35 years old) and could be facing another one
twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
mikeymom: sister suffered a stroke
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father back in the hospital
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain, having gone from bad to worse
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
/cont’d
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:45:38am |
re: #365 WestTexas
Of course, prayers are always welcomed. The cheating is definite. Besides meeting the "man" and reading emails between the two, she refused to hug, kiss, or touch him since he has been home.
The situation you have described is toxic and dangerous. He needs to run - not walk - out of there, before something really bad happens.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:45:39am |
re: #369 BlueCanuck
Thank you I did not know that.
re: #370 Erik The Red
Well that's why I am asking now, because I will be spending about four hours with him later today and I need to let him know how I feel and I also want him to be able to get a good look at the situation objectively. Right now, naturally, his heart is leading him.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:46:00am |
re: #373 Pietr
Crap, forgot about that. This could be a security issue as well.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:46:11am |
Lizard Prayer List, cont’d:
Family, friend, and life situations:
West Texas: brother’s decision
Victor_yugo: job
laZardo: strength of purpose
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: mom moving
A Kiwi Infidel: Natasha and her husband mourning the loss of the younger child.
mama winger: family (especially stepfather) dealing with stepbrother’s suicide.
MandyManners: finding answers and solutions
neocon hippie: grieving for big black kitty, Ripple
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Newsjunkie: loss of her dog
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: son diagnosed with Asperger’s (mild autism)
HoosierHoops: 3/5th Marines deploying to Afghanistan in January (son Jordan is a platoon leader)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
jcm: 7-month-old foster daughter who went to life with extended family; best result for another foster daughter
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: EH/kids
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general
Community issues:
The hostages and pray for the Indian army so that they should have great aim.
Our country going forward
Georgia/Ossetia
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:49:30am |
You know one of the worst parts is that their relationship started out as an accident. She was trying to hit on the guy he was working with and he thought it was him. The other guy just stepped aside and let it happen because he wanted nothing to do with her.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:52:39am |
re: #381 WestTexas
Do either of you know of her history? Married before, long term relationships, etc. ? I got a hunch, and a feeling.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:52:51am |
re: #374 Sharmuta
re: #380 goddessoftheclassroom
re: #376 Spare O'Lake
re: #370 Erik The Red
re: #369 BlueCanuck
Once again, thank you all so much for your support and advice. I will do the best I can with it. You are an amazing group of people and I feel honored to be a member of this wonderful community.
West Texas
p.s. If you ever need a shoulder and I'm around I'm all ears. :-)
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:52:53am |
re: #377 WestTexas
Where is the nearest Military installation for you? He can go there for counseling with the chaplain, and base legal as well. And he needs to do it ASAP. Additionally, if he is holding a High security clearance, this could affect that.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:53:32am |
re: #383 WestTexas
re: #380 goddessoftheclassroom
re: #376 Spare O'Lake
re: #370 Erik The Red
re: #369 BlueCanuck
Once again, thank you all so much for your support and advice. I will do the best I can with it. You are an amazing group of people and I feel honored to be a member of this wonderful community.
West Texas
p.s. If you ever need a shoulder and I'm around I'm all ears. :-)
Good luck God Bless
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:54:04am |
re: #378 Sharmuta
I love you, too, {Sharmuta!} :-)
I'm not one to prolong that kind of agony. What may look like a slash and burn policy to someone who doesn't know me, is actually a firewall protecting my self-esteem (which, such as it is, I spent many, many years and many dollar$ getting functional).
Not everyone operates the way I do - in fact, very few people do. But that's why I barely said boo to goddess for about a year. Her first go 'round with %p$iXe^c$e VoSf %s*h@i)t didn't look good to me at all. So I sat on my hands...
{[{goddess}]}
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:54:15am |
re: #382 BlueCanuck
Well from what I know she was married once before years ago. She has a sixteen year old from the marriage. He lives with them. It's pretty twisted. The marriage was a rather short one.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:56:31am |
re: #386 littleoldlady
I love you, too, {Sharmuta!} :-)
I'm not one to prolong that kind of agony. What may look like a slash and burn policy to someone who doesn't know me, is actually a firewall protecting my self-esteem (which, such as it is, I spent many, many years and many dollar$ getting functional).
Not everyone operates the way I do - in fact, very few people do. But that's why I barely said boo to goddess for about a year. Her first go 'round with %p$iXe^c$e VoSf %s*h@i)t didn't look good to me at all. So I sat on my hands...
{[{goddess}]}
WHAT? Go-round with whom? I scared you? Oh, no! I AM SO SORRY!
{littleoldlady}
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:57:16am |
re: #384 Pietr
Well he does diesel repairs and such. I would have to check on the base. We live slightly north of Houston right now. There are bases all over Texas though.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:57:53am |
re: #388 goddessoftheclassroom
No, no! You didn't scare me. I was scared for YOU.
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pilots wife Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:57:59am |
Having been a military spouse for 20 years, I can tell you that I have seen situations like this before. Women who specifically seek out and marry someone in the military, knowing that they leave for long periods of time but still send the money home.
Your brother needs to go to base legal ASAP--it won't be anything they haven't seen before and they can tell him how to protect his interests. He also needs to notify his command element about his issues at home--they don't want someone in a dangerous duty situation when their mind is somewhere else. There are ways to give him a "time out" to deal with this, but he's got to let someone know--in the Air Force it would be his "First Shirt"--I don't know what the army equivalent is.
Don't let him blow this off or talk himself out of it--it's important that he take some steps to protect himself. What if she ruins his credit or gets pregnant with a baby that she passes off as his?
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:58:42am |
re: #381 WestTexas
Get him out of there, and into some counseling. A good counselor will be able to not only help him sort things out now, but should be able to give him the tools to sort things out for himself in the future.
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NYCHardhat Wed, Dec 10, 2008 3:59:18am |
re: #321 WestTexas
Ok so here's some shameless advice seeking, but since y'all seem to very level headed people it seems to be a good place to look for it. My brother is back from South Korea on leave. He is in the Army and has been married for roughly a year and a half. He is twenty one and his wife is thirty six. She has been cheating on him for six months and he found this out the day he got back. He has been mulling over divorce for the last few days and can't make a definitive decision. I normally would suggest counseling and what not to him, but she is a very mean and self-centered person. She treats him very badly (hence the cheating), and I would like to be able to tip the scale for him, but don't want to seem bias or pit him against me.
P.S. I know it's a lot to ask from a group that I have just recently met, but time is limited and I have been a lurker for so long sometimes I am more emboldened than I should be.
Thank you
I don't mean to bash women because I do love them, but this is why I will never get married. Women terrify me.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:00:04am |
re: #390 littleoldlady
No, no! You didn't scare me. I was scared for YOU.
AHHH! Now I get it.
My EH made the choice to throw away commitments for selfish pleasure. I did what I felt I had to do to save our marriage, so now I have no regrets and the satisfaction of knowing that I tried everything.
I still have the court order preventing him from contacting me. Best thing EVER.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:00:27am |
re: #391 pilots wife
Thank you. Excellent points and advice.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:00:40am |
re: #391 pilots wife
Yeah, we (the family) have been worried about that. He has already closed their joint account, so that's one step in the right direction. Our uncle is a civil lawyer and we have had talks already. So far so good, but he started back tracking yesterday.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:01:44am |
re: #394 goddessoftheclassroom
and the satisfaction of knowing that I tried everything.
You certainly did! WAY above and beyond what would be anyone's expectations!
I admire you for that. :-)
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:01:50am |
re: #396 WestTexas
Yeah, we (the family) have been worried about that. He has already closed their joint account, so that's one step in the right direction. Our uncle is a civil lawyer and we have had talks already. So far so good, but he started back tracking yesterday.
Please assure him that HE IS A GOOD PERSON WHO DID NOTHING TO DESERVE THIS. Make him repeat after you. I know that feeling of taking some blame for something for which I deserved none.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:02:15am |
re: #397 littleoldlady
MWAH! That is so sweet!
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Tigger2005 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:03:14am |
I haven't done a lot of commenting lately and I missed the most recent birth certificate threads. I have to say I didn't really agree with the article by David Horowitz that Charles posted. Maybe the birth certificate controversy is crap, and I haven't been pushing it myself either online or person-to-person, but I don't agree with Horowitz that it's "sore loserism," since the controversy arose BEFORE Obama won the election. Perhaps it's a desperate effort to prevent Obama from becoming President, but it can't logically be called "sore loserism" unless it started AFTER the Republican loss.
Would Horowitz have had the claimants drop their suits immediately after Obama won? Well, that would pretty much reveal the suits to be nothing more than a ploy to try to prevent Obama's election, wouldn't it? It would reveal the claimants as hypocrites who never believed there was any merit to their suit, as people no better than Dan Rather and Mary Mapes. Some of the claimants may be crackpots, but I think they really do believe they're doing the right thing and that they shouldn't stop and cede the issue just because Obama won (because even a President-elect shouldn't be above the Constitution).
Then there is the claim that getting Obama disqualified on this basis would "disenfranchise" 64 million voters. But if Obama really is NOT a citizen, and knows it, and lied about it, and the voters had known this BEFORE the election, would they have voted for him?
Again, I'm not trying to push the birth certificate issue itself--I tend to think there's probably nothing to it (although I haven't entirely passed judgment on it, either)--but I do disagree with a couple of the criticisms Horowitz levels at it and those who promote it.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:03:41am |
re: #387 WestTexas
Well from what I know she was married once before years ago. She has a sixteen year old from the marriage. He lives with them. It's pretty twisted. The marriage was a rather short one.
I hate to add to your discomfort but, my alarms have gradually been going off. Your brother needs to get far away from this woman, and he needs to watch his back. Seriously.
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:03:45am |
re: #392 Sharmuta
As he is military, Ma'm, seeing a shrink 'on record' tends to blot any career prospects. That is why I suggested seeing the Chaplain at the nearest Post. The Chaplain can help, and probably steer him into programs that aren't run by the Psychiatric types in the Base hospital.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:03:51am |
So...gotta walk the dog.re: #393 NYCHardhat
I don't mean to bash women because I do love them, but this is why I will never get married. Women terrify me.
LOL...another country heard from.
I gotta walk the dog.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:03:53am |
re: #399 goddessoftheclassroom
MWAH! That is so sweet!
Psst- don't let her fool you. She's actually Grouchy.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:04:37am |
re: #398 goddessoftheclassroom
That's the thing that has me upset. At first he was spitting mad and then three or four days later he wants to work it out because he says part of it is his fault. I call total bull. He did NOTHING wrong, been faithful the whole time.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:05:52am |
re: #402 Pietr
Well- I didn't say he had to see a military counselor, but a private professional probably would be best.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:06:56am |
Good morning from Illinois, where 3 of our last 6 Governors have done prison time for corruption, soon to be 4 for 7.
Happy 52nd birthday Gov Blago, as a resident of this State I am willing to pop for an orange jump suit of your very own.
I hope to see you by the side of the road soon, wearing it and picking up garbage with an armed escort.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:07:04am |
re: #396 WestTexas
Yeah, we (the family) have been worried about that. He has already closed their joint account, so that's one step in the right direction. Our uncle is a civil lawyer and we have had talks already. So far so good, but he started back tracking yesterday.
Would you ask your uncle to give him the names of a few divorce attorneys who will do initial consults for free or for a reduced rate? Your brother needs to find out his legal rights and responsibilities, ASAP.
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:07:05am |
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:07:28am |
re: #401 MandyManners
Hello Mandy, another great commenter I am a fan of. :-) I know what you mean about the back. The guy she moved in is an ex-con. Felony style. I hope he doesn't get hurt in more ways than one. I really just want him to walk away, possessions and all. That apartment is a crap hole anyhow.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:07:33am |
re: #405 WestTexas
Willing to bet that he guilt tripped him too. "If you weren't gone so long. . . ."
/heard this story before, always ends in tragedy
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:07:34am |
I've got to run--y'all take care.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:08:48am |
Bye {goddess}, have a good day. Thanks for every thing you do.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:10:01am |
re: #410 WestTexas
Hello Mandy, another great commenter I am a fan of. :-) I know what you mean about the back. The guy she moved in is an ex-con. Felony style. I hope he doesn't get hurt in more ways than one. I really just want him to walk away, possessions and all. That apartment is a crap hole anyhow.
Has he changed the locks? Is her name on the lease? Is her son living with her or in the apartment? Where are his important papers--birth certificate, financial records, et cet.?
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:10:05am |
re: #408 MandyManners
Yeah, we did that yesterday, and then he talked to her, now he's all like well part of it is me, so we should try to work it out. Like I said "bull". She is a snake.
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NYCHardhat Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:10:44am |
Everyone have a good day. Godspeed WestTexas.
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pilots wife Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:11:16am |
re: #405 WestTexas
I suspect this woman has played this game before--she chose your brother because he's so young and doesn't have the "tools" to fight back. He thinks they're in love and everything will work out. Everything from her side absolutely SCREAMS "black widow". I hope you can make him see that he's a pawn in her game. You can't push too hard, or he'll run toward her. He really, really needs to go to base legal--it's free and confidential.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:11:21am |
re: #415 MandyManners
Oh, you mistake my brother. He doesn't have any financial holdings. Her son lives there and with his real dad. My brother's name is the only one on the lease.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:12:27am |
In market news, look for the market to open on the up side this morning.
The market futures are all pointing up about 1.50%, the Nikkei was up 3.15% and the Hang Seng up 5.6%.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:12:34am |
re: #416 WestTexas
Yeah, we did that yesterday, and then he talked to her, now he's all like well part of it is me, so we should try to work it out. Like I said "bull". She is a snake.
Sounds like she's doing a number on his head. You might consider asking him if he held a gun to her head in order to make her commit adultery.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:14:02am |
re: #419 WestTexas
Oh, you mistake my brother. He doesn't have any financial holdings. Her son lives there and with his real dad. My brother's name is the only one on the lease.
I'm talking about bank records, credit card records and the like.
Do you mean she abandoned her son while she went to live with the ex-con?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:16:54am |
re: #407 3 wood
Good morning from Illinois, where 3 of our last 6 Governors have done prison time for corruption, soon to be 4 for 7.
Happy 52nd birthday Gov Blago, as a resident of this State I am willing to pop for an orange jump suit of your very own.
I hope to see you by the side of the road soon, wearing it and picking up garbage with an armed escort.
I'll help you buy the orange suit, along with the obligatory soap on a rope.
Blago is stupid, arrogant, greedy, and quite frankly, possibly sociopathic. He is most definitely narcissistic.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:17:02am |
re: #424 MandyManners
No no, he moves between mom and dad. The dad is a decent sort, the son hates my brother. Can't say it's his fault though. They should have been brothers. The age is feasible. He closed their only bank account the other day. No credit cards. All his birth records and stuff our mom holds.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:19:22am |
re: #425 WestTexas
Having been through the short marriage thing, if the cheating is true, I'd suggest he consult a divorce attorney, and file. He should file first, with his grievances as the basis for the divorce.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:20:43am |
re: #429 MandyManners
Well two years ago when they met she had him shut all of us out within two weeks. This is the first contact we have had since then. It's been really rough, but more so on him.
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garycooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:21:03am |
re: #126 Walter L. Newton
Yep, Carrot Top has jumped the shark... (caution, not safe for humans)...
Yikes...look at this one. The "present" pic is very close to how he looked in "Heckler:" Image: 0928_carrot_top_3reveal_wi_fm_2.jpg
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:21:20am |
re: #430 Honorary Yooper
That's what I'm trying to get him to do. He can always cancel it.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:21:29am |
re: #427 WestTexas
No no, he moves between mom and dad. The dad is a decent sort, the son hates my brother. Can't say it's his fault though. They should have been brothers. The age is feasible. He closed their only bank account the other day. No credit cards. All his birth records and stuff our mom holds.
Freud would've seen that coming from 100 miles away! Poor kid.
It's not unheard of for someone like her to get a credit card and rack up the debts then dump them on him. No matter what the final divorce order would say about the debts, the creditors would go after the other spouse, especially on in the military because they know that the military does not tolerate bad debtors no matter who racked up the charges.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:21:57am |
re: #431 WestTexas
Well two years ago when they met she had him shut all of us out within two weeks. This is the first contact we have had since then. It's been really rough, but more so on him.
She is a predator.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:22:39am |
Need less blood in my caffeine stream. bbiab
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:23:31am |
re: #431 WestTexas
Well two years ago when they met she had him shut all of us out within two weeks. This is the first contact we have had since then. It's been really rough, but more so on him.
This is going from bad to toxic the more information we get. Classic Black Widow. Kidnap him if you have to.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:24:07am |
*New Flash*
The Chicago Sun Times has just determined that arrested Gov Rod Blagojevich is a Democrat.
Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich taken into federal custody
Literally 25 paragraph's into the story, you get this:
Fitzgerald says federal investigators bugged the Democrat’s campaign offices and placed a tap on his home phone. And Grant says even seasoned investigators were stunned by what they heard on those tapes.
Funny thing, when Gov George Ryan was getting sent to the pokey, the Sun times made sure you knew he was a Republican in the headline.
Strange how that works.
Also, Blago's attorneys ays he is innocent and has done nothing wrong.
Obama says he pretty much does not even know who Blagojevich is.
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fat bastard vegetarian Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:25:09am |
Odd. Walked outside this morning to get some stuff from the "fat-mobile" and Richmond VA is 65 degree Fahrenheit (not Celsius)
May called. They want their weather back.
The sun is shining
The grass is green
The orange and palm trees sway.
I've never seen such a day
In Richmond, VA.
But it's December the 24th
And I am longing to be up North.
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:25:28am |
re: #435 MandyManners
I know, I've know it since almost day one, but he wouldn't listen. Kids :-(
Well guys, thank you, unfortunately I have to go. Work calls, but I will be on later tonight, and will give an appropriate updates.
West Texas
p.s. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Jim in Virginia Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:26:23am |
West Texas- nothing to add to what's been said above. You're good to worry and try to assist your brother.
Thoughts and prayers to you.
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:26:37am |
re: #427 WestTexas
As you're near Houston, I'd suggest calling ANY service recruiting office there-first thing today. Ask for info on the nearest Post/Installation that has both Base Legal and a Chaplain, then get your brother there ASAP. Googling bases with those services isn't easy, and any recruiter should have a DOD directory. Good Luck.
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fat bastard vegetarian Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:30:00am |
The toolbox is coming up on Peru, Ecuador, Columbia and Venezuela. Moving Northeast at roughly 4.5 miles per second. Be cool if this was the moment when we found out that Hugo can't dodge a wrench.
Toolbox fascinates me.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:30:41am |
re: #426 Honorary Yooper
Blago is stupid, arrogant, greedy, and quite frankly, possibly sociopathic. He is most definitely narcissistic.
Pretty good description of your average Chicago Machine politician.
Did you see that Eddit "Fast Eddie" Vrdolyak pleaded guilty to a felony a month or so ago?
Former Ald. Vrdolyak Pleads Guilty In Scheme
CHICAGO (CBS) ― Ed Vrdolak is now a convicted felon. The former 10th ward alderman who led the anti-Harold Washington faction on the Chicago City Council in the 1980s entered a surprise guilty plea Monday to federal corruption charges.
Older at 70, grayer and slower, the man known as "Fast Eddie" felt his personal life, as well as his legal and political career, collapse. After cutting a deal with the feds, the former alderman and mayoral candidate pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud. He could spend years in prison after he's sentenced.
They did not call him "Fast Eddie" for nothing. When I was in the Loop, they said Fast Eddie could hear a dollar bill fall on a snow bank.
By the way, Fast Eddie was a Democrat too.
This is typical of the Machine politicians I knew, and that Obama came up among.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:30:46am |
Best of luck WestTexas. I know from the inside what it's like to be frozen out from friends and family. Keep dripping on him if you have to. He will thank you for it later.
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Jim in Virginia Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:32:20am |
re: #439 fat bastard vegetarian
Wait until tomorrow.
The snow will come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar that
Tomorrow
There'll be snooow...
Fred Grandy on WMAL radio referred to call in gay day as "National Show tunes day"
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fat bastard vegetarian Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:32:46am |
re: #444 3 wood
How did Ryan ever get elected in IL? Didn't really pay attention when his nuts were in the vise.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:33:40am |
Well my relief is here and it's time for me to go. Have a good day and stay warm and scaly lizards.
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fat bastard vegetarian Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:33:50am |
re: #446 Jim in Virginia
I called in "Gay" last night with that Lincoln human. "Suicide by Stinky?"
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:34:04am |
State legislators are going to court this morning to get a temporary restraining order to keep Gov. Blagojevich from appointing someone to fill Obama 's seat.
Looks like the Dem's will be shy a vote for a while in the Senate.
Just like when Obama held the seat.
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Dar ul Harbarian Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:34:56am |
Morning.
I hope everyone has a fcuking golden day!
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littleoldlady Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:35:38am |
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fat bastard vegetarian Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:35:59am |
re: #451 Dar ul Harbarian
You have a damn fine looking lady in your avatar.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:36:11am |
re: #447 fat bastard vegetarian
How did Ryan ever get elected in IL? Didn't really pay attention when his nuts were in the vise.
Gov. Edgar had done a pretty good job and Ryan painted himself as a continuation of that.
The general public was not aware at that point that he had been selling drivers licenses to the highest bidder as Secretary of the State for campaign money.
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right_wing2 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:36:47am |
The level of corruption in Ill is incredible. And disgusting.
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fat bastard vegetarian Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:36:59am |
re: #454 3 wood
The flip side of a bad penny. Nice.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:41:19am |
re: #425 WestTexas
I understand you're upset, but let's refrain from posting stuff that problematic for Charles.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:41:36am |
re: #440 WestTexas
Take care!
One thing you might want to consider and keep in mind is that your brother is an adult. I know you feel protective of him but, this is on him.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:42:16am |
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}
Erik the Red, are you still here?
Some cricket news
More injuries in the Proteas team
SOUTH African captain Graeme Smith has joined strike bowler Dale Steyn and frontline spinner Paul Harris on the sidelines for the tourists' opening match against Western Australia on Thursday.
Smith will miss the one-dayer at the WACA with an elbow injury, coach Mickey Arthur told reporters on Wednesday.
Steyn, who is nursing a minor hamstring strain, and left-arm spinner Harris, who has had a cast removed from his injured left thumb, will also miss the game.
However, All three are expected to play in the two-day match against a WA XI starting on Friday.
Arthur said the injury to Steyn, the leading bowler in Test cricket in 2008 with 60 wickets, was not serious
Not too serious though it seems
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:42:39am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:43:06am |
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WestTexas Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:44:13am |
re: #459 Sharmuta
Ok really out of here, leaving work. I know, it's ok if it is deleted. Just a moment of truth through passion. Take care all and have a good day.
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:44:40am |
re: #464 WestTexas
You take care- we'll be praying for you and your brother.
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Erik The Red Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:45:24am |
re: #461 aussiemagpie
Still here thanks for the update. Heard that on the news on the way to the salt mine this am.
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fat bastard vegetarian Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:47:56am |
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:50:35am |
Morning all. The potheads in Arizona are going to upset about this.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:51:04am |
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Desert Dog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:52:06am |
re: #468 Bubblehead II
Morning all. The potheads in Arizona are going to upset about this.
DARN! I was expecting a UPS delivery today!
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fat bastard vegetarian Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:52:35am |
re: #470 Desert Dog
DARN! I was expecting a UPS delivery today!
What can "brown" do for me? Obviously a lot.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:53:33am |
re: #468 Bubblehead II
Morning all. The potheads in Arizona are going to upset about this.
*whimper*
Seriously, I wonder if there is any connection to UPS. Did the dealers just steal a license plate from a UPS truck?
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:53:40am |
Weekly Aussie wildlife story...
Caterpillars invade a Queensland town!
IN a scene straight from a science fiction horror movie, a tiny Queensland town is under siege by a massive infestation of caterpillars that cause skin rashes.
The plague has even forced one resident to put on a full body suit every time she leaves the house.
Homes and backyards in Yandaran, near Bundaberg have been covered with millions of caterpillars for 18 months.
Resident Karon Carr told the ABC that backyards look like a scene from a horror movie.
"Fence posts, wires, clothes lines, clothes - they're just everywhere," she said.
Not nice at all!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:54:22am |
re: #470 Desert Dog
DARN! I was expecting a UPS delivery today!
*phone rings*
"Desert Dog, please open the front door. Agents are on your porch."
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:54:57am |
re: #472 MandyManners
No it was a fake plate, but the numbers were from a real plate/truck
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Desert Dog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:55:05am |
re: #474 MandyManners
*phone rings*
"Desert Dog, please open the front door. Agents are on your porch."
Hey, I have really bad glaucoma. It was for medical purposes only
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:55:40am |
re: #473 aussiemagpie
Weekly Aussie wildlife story...
Caterpillars invade a Queensland town!
Not nice at all!
That makes Colorado's Miller moth invasion look benign.
*shudder*
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:56:09am |
re: #475 Bubblehead II
No it was a fake plate, but the numbers were from a real plate/truck
My reading comprehension skills suck this morning.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:56:33am |
re: #476 Desert Dog
Hey, I have really bad glaucoma. It was for medical purposes only
That's the ticket!
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:58:06am |
re: #472 MandyManners
IIRC, they seized a real UPS truck some months back that was being used to haul dope. They called ths one cloned, so somone apparently painted it to look like a real UPS truck. Article says they HAND painted the fake license plate. :>O
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:59:23am |
re: #478 MandyManners
Too much blood in your caffeine stream?
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steveoh Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:59:38am |
Just saw Bush extended the waiver for the Us Embassy move to Jerusalem. Gave the order through Condi "screw the Jews" Rice. Your text to link...
Nice to see he's consistent. A surefire way to solidify his allegiance to his strongest ally in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 4:59:45am |
re: #480 Pietr
IIRC, they seized a real UPS truck some months back that was being used to haul dope. They called ths one cloned, so somone apparently painted it to look like a real UPS truck. Article says they HAND painted the fake license plate. :>O
Gotta' love the ingenuity of crooks! There's nothing like that Can-Do attitude.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:00:17am |
re: #481 Bubblehead II
Too much blood in your caffeine stream?
Could be. But, I'm still on my first mug.
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yochanan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:00:41am |
re: #454 3 wood
gov'r edger and gov'r thompson were decent men. the only good gov'rs we have had.
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Bloodnok Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:03:56am |
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yochanan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:04:43am |
this chicago republican has a grin from ear to ear how the worm turns
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:05:49am |
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Miss Trixie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:07:50am |
♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪
A storm dropped almost a foot of snow on us and we're also in day one of a city transit strike. Been up since 04:30 this morning to meet up with folks to carpool into work, the roads are an unbelievable mess and traffic is snarling. Parking lots have upped their charges at some sites more that 50%. UN-believable.
*shakes head*
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:08:27am |
Axelrod's busier than a cat with diarrhea in its litter box.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:10:04am |
re: #489 Miss Trixie
♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪
A storm dropped almost a foot of snow on us and we're also in day one of a city transit strike. Been up since 04:30 this morning to meet up with folks to carpool into work, the roads are an unbelievable mess and traffic is snarling. Parking lots have upped their charges at some sites more that 50%. UN-believable.
*shakes head*
Ahhh. Capitalism!
Good to see your old avatar.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:10:06am |
Starting to look like it was a family affair.
Illinois First Lady Prominent in FBI Affidavit Charging Governor
The first lady was not arrested Tuesday, but federal prosecutors nevertheless allege that she was engaged in the governor's attempts to sell Barack Obama's U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder and to intimidate The Chicago Tribune. The court document mentions the first lady, though not by name, 19 times in six graphic sections.
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yochanan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:10:10am |
interesting it may have been ram emanuel may have been the person who tipped off the FBI on this.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:10:46am |
re: #477 MandyManners
That makes Colorado's Miller moth invasion look benign.
*shudder*
Hi Mandy, and now I'll go google that one!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:11:00am |
re: #492 Bubblehead II
Starting to look like it was a family affair.
Illinois First Lady Prominent in FBI Affidavit Charging Governor
The first lady was not arrested Tuesday, but federal prosecutors nevertheless allege that she was engaged in the governor's attempts to sell Barack Obama's U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder and to intimidate The Chicago Tribune. The court document mentions the first lady, though not by name, 19 times in six graphic sections.
Who's gonna' get the kids if both parents go to prison? Good grief.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:12:01am |
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:12:44am |
re: #489 Miss Trixie
♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪
A storm dropped almost a foot of snow on us and we're also in day one of a city transit strike. Been up since 04:30 this morning to meet up with folks to carpool into work, the roads are an unbelievable mess and traffic is snarling. Parking lots have upped their charges at some sites more that 50%. UN-believable.
*shakes head*
Hi darls, and you must be dreading the trip home...
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:14:27am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:15:04am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:16:27am |
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gregg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:16:32am |
re: #495 MandyManners
Who's gonna' get the kids if both parents go to prison? Good grief.
He has a wife and kids? I thought since he wasn't going to be at work today, it meant something else...
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Bloodnok Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:17:24am |
re: #489 Miss Trixie
♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪
A storm dropped almost a foot of snow on us and we're also in day one of a city transit strike. Been up since 04:30 this morning to meet up with folks to carpool into work, the roads are an unbelievable mess and traffic is snarling. Parking lots have upped their charges at some sites more that 50%. UN-believable.
*shakes head*
{Miss Trix}
Meanwhile it is 57 degrees here after being below zero (wind chill) just two days ago. Gotta love New England weather.
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Miss Trixie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:17:44am |
re: #497 aussiemagpie
Hi darls, and you must be dreading the trip home...
Hiya, toots. I am. My carpoolers finish work at 17:30 while I'm outta here at 15:15 so I may just have to sit tight here for a couple of more hours if I can't arrange another option.
Bloody union goons - they should be [deleted], [deleted] and [deleted] with a rusty saw until they [deleted] their [deleted] with a [deleted] [deleted].
That'll learn 'em.
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yochanan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:20:41am |
[Link: www.suntimes.com...]
only two gov'rs came out with clean records Edgars and Thompson both GOP
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quickjustice Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:23:43am |
Obama could end up kneecapped before he even takes office. That's very bad for the country. Nonetheless, "Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas!"
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:24:49am |
Several interesting developments this morning inthe Land of Where's Mine, otherwise known as Illinois.
1. There will be a move today by several officials to go to court and get an injunction against Gov Blago appointing a Senate repalcecent.
2. There are impeachment papers already in hand in the State Capital and they are ready to start moving.
3. State's Attorney Lisa Madigan is going to try to use a littel known statutory provision to get Blago removed form office for being "unfit".
4. There is much debate about who "Candidate 5" is for the Senate sweepstakes Blago was holding. apparently Candidate 5 was ready to come across with some cash, and word is that Candidate 5 is going to be indicted soon. Democratic Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. had exhibited a lot of interest in the position in the past several weeks.
Democratic Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. is now reported to be suddenly canceling all of his scheduled personal appearances...
Just one of those things that makes you go hmmm.
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gregg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:25:51am |
CNBC headline: Stocks Pushed Hire By Auto Bailout.
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doriangrey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:26:32am |
ROTFLMAO... I am starting to think that Obama pulled off the biggest con job in American political history. We didn't (the United States) elect a Muslim Marxist... We elected an old fashioned Chicago Gangster... Say hello to President Scar Face Capone...
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:27:25am |
re: #509 Miss Trixie
Hiya, toots. I am. My carpoolers finish work at 17:30 while I'm outta here at 15:15 so I may just have to sit tight here for a couple of more hours if I can't arrange another option.
Bloody union goons - they should be [deleted], [deleted] and [deleted] with a rusty saw until they [deleted] their [deleted] with a [deleted] [deleted].
That'll learn 'em.
LOL! How long is this strike going to last?
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:28:55am |
re: #514 3 wood
Re your #4 there, think maybe he's planning to "Travel Abroad" on some Goodwill visits? Say, until the Statute of limitations runs out? Hmmm.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:29:45am |
In only the most rarest of circumstances do I judge a book by it's cover, but when it comes to Blagojevich, I get miffed just looking at him.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:31:46am |
re: #495 MandyManners
Who's gonna' get the kids if both parents go to prison? Good grief.
I think not charging her yet was intentional.
They are going to give Blago a chance to bargain and plead guilty in exchange for not putting the Mrs. in an orange jumpsuit for 10 to 20.
Her Dad is Alderman Dick Mell, who really does not like Blago. My guess is Daddy is spending a lot of time talking his daughter into voluntarily giving States evidence.
Understand, Blago will not resign. He will try to leverage his ability to further screw up the State for anything he can get.
I doubt that Blago. has any feeling for anybody but himself though.
The State Senate is being called into session to remove Blago's ability to appoint the Senator and call for a general election to replace Obama.
And Obama still does not know who Blago is, probably could not recognize him on the street.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:33:47am |
Reading over parts of the indictment it is clear why there is this desperate effort to generate cover for Obama. He is deep in this and clearly was communicating what candidates he favored. Blago was rejecting the SEIU candidate (Candidate #1) unless he got a payoff but said that he would not take Obama's candidate "his candidate" instead, that rather than do Obama "that bleep" a favor he would appoint the Deputy Governor (Candidate #4).
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Miss Trixie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:34:08am |
re: #517 aussiemagpie
LOL! How long is this strike going to last?
Wish I knew. It was done for maximum effect so that Joe Q. Public is inconvenienced the most. Rat bastids.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:35:23am |
re: #515 gregg
"Hire"?, and not "Higher"
My gosh, not only is the MSM blatantly biased, they are just flat out stupid.
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fat bastard vegetarian Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:36:11am |
Work gets in the way of my LGF'n. Poop.
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Miss Trixie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:36:22am |
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:36:29am |
re: #518 Pietr
Re your #4 there, think maybe he's planning to "Travel Abroad" on some Goodwill visits? Say, until the Statute of limitations runs out? Hmmm.
Might be visiting Cuba and Venezuela soon.
If I were Fitzgerald, I'd be watching the airport.
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gregg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:37:48am |
re: #524 3 wood
"Hire"?, and not "Higher"
My gosh, not only is the MSM blatantly biased, they are just flat out stupid.
I suspect Jim Cramer wrote that headline. ;-)
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yochanan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:37:56am |
DOG LEFT A PILE RIGHT BY THE GOV'R DOOR STEP good doggie
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beblebrox Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:39:10am |
You wanna know how to get Blagojevich? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way! And that's how you get Blagojevich. Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that? I'm offering you a deal. Do you want this deal?
Apologies to The Untouchables
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:39:46am |
re: #514 3 wood
4. There is much debate about who "Candidate 5" is for the Senate sweepstakes Blago was holding. apparently Candidate 5 was ready to come across with some cash, and word is that Candidate 5 is going to be indicted soon. Democratic Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. had exhibited a lot of interest in the position in the past several weeks.Democratic Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. is now reported to be suddenly canceling all of his scheduled personal appearances...
Just one of those things that makes you go hmmm.
Jr. sold out his old man to support the Big O when Dad threatened to send BHO to the veterinarian. Shows you what the wages of disloyalty are if the son goes down. Obama is a politician who can't even stay bought.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:40:30am |
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:41:37am |
re: #522 yochanan
WATCH FOR RATS RUNNING OUT OF THE SEWERS
I think there might be a parade to the prosecutors office to cut deals. You can make witnesses forget or vanish, and you can bribe county judges. which is what the Chicago Machine has always thrived on. But you can't make tape not exist and you really can't easily get to a Federal Judge.
I think a lot of bag men, ward heelers, and arm twisters are going to be looking in the mirror this morning and trying to figure out what they can deal for a soft landing.
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Peacekeeper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:41:47am |
"It is terrible to contemplete how few politicians are hanged."
G.K. Chesterton
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:42:32am |
re: #523 Miss Trixie
Wish I knew. It was done for maximum effect so that Joe Q. Public is inconvenienced the most. Rat bastids.
What do the unions want?
Other than inconvenience as many people as possible
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:43:50am |
re: #530 beblebrox
Apologies to The Untouchables
I've always liked the line that Sean Connery has just before he leads Ness through the door on his first "real" raid: "Once you go through this door there's no turning back."
That is so true...
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doriangrey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:44:56am |
re: #533 3 wood
I think there might be a parade to the prosecutors office to cut deals. You can make witnesses forget or vanish, and you can bribe county judges. which is what the Chicago Machine has always thrived on. But you can't make tape not exist and you really can't easily get to a Federal Judge.
I think a lot of bag men, ward heelers, and arm twisters are going to be looking in the mirror this morning and trying to figure out what they can deal for a soft landing.
With all due respect. This is politics ala the Democratic party... This will all disappear without a trace down the memory hole as we shall suddenly be facing some new crisis that shall arrive any day now to distract us from this.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:45:15am |
Good Morning Lizards!
It is a warm and wet day here in CT.
Our local, liberal, Tribune owned, newspaper, The Hartford Courant, has a cartoon caption contest that I would love to see a Lizard win. Here is the link. Good Luck!
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Fluffy Bunny Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:45:26am |
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:45:32am |
re: #535 aussiemagpie
What do the unions want?
Other than inconvenience as many people as possible
A soft life for union officials.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:45:39am |
re: #521 lifeofthemind
Blago was rejecting the SEIU candidate (Candidate #1) unless he got a payoff but said that he would not take Obama's candidate "his candidate" instead, that rather than do Obama "that bleep" a favor he would appoint the Deputy Governor (Candidate #4).
Candidate #1 was this Valerie Jarrett.
Word I get has it that Blago put the arm on Obama for the appointment of Jarrett in exchange for cash, a job with the unions and a job for the Mrs. through Rahm Emanuel. Emanuel took the message back to Obama, they decided to appoint her to some cabinet post anyway, so Blago got told to go fish.
But remember, Obama does not know who Blago is and has not talked to him.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:46:28am |
re: #536 CIA Reject
I've always liked the line that Sean Connery has just before he leads Ness through the door on his first "real" raid: "Once you go through this door there's no turning back."
That is so true...
Eliot Ness went to the University of Chicago, played tennis, ended up an alcoholic.
Life is full of irony.
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:46:43am |
re: #537 doriangrey
With all due respect. This is politics ala the Democratic party... This will all disappear without a trace down the memory hole as we shall suddenly be facing some new crisis that shall arrive any day now to distract us from this.
Life imitates "Wag the Dog"...
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doriangrey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:47:54am |
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beblebrox Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:48:24am |
re: #536 CIA Reject
I've always liked the line that Sean Connery has just before he leads Ness through the door on his first "real" raid: "Once you go through this door there's no turning back."
That is so true...
he had so many good lines in that film.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:48:43am |
Seems appropriate.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:49:08am |
re: #541 3 wood
Candidate #1 was this Valerie Jarrett.
Word I get has it that Blago put the arm on Obama for the appointment of Jarrett in exchange for cash, a job with the unions and a job for the Mrs. through Rahm Emanuel. Emanuel took the message back to Obama, they decided to appoint her to some cabinet post anyway, so Blago got told to go fish.
But remember, Obama does not know who Blago is and has not talked to him.
So Blago was trying to sell assets he did not own?
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:51:10am |
re: #547 lifeofthemind
So Blago was trying to sell assets he did not own?
I have a feeling once everything is nationalized that is how you will be forced to do business...
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Miss Trixie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:51:25am |
re: #535 aussiemagpie
What do the unions want?
Other than inconvenience as many people as possible
Lessee if I can explain:
~ City Hall got wind of more than $8 million paid out in overtime to drivers, mechanics and stewards who were scheduling their own time, thumbing thier noses at management and logging as much OT as possible whether they actually worked OT or not. General OT abuse.
~ City Hall told Management to get this problem under control but because Management were too afraid to do anything, they let it continue.
~ It's budget time at City Hall, the Union's contract was due so City Hall offered them an extremely generous contract BUT it didn't include scheduling their own time, we have a strike.
Fire. Them. All.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:51:46am |
re: #535 aussiemagpie
What do the unions want?
Other than inconvenience as many people as possible
Good morning!
The "unions" want to protect the union and its officials.
In so many cases, the demands of unions set their members up for failure, with demands that can't be maintained and thus jobs are lost.
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:52:25am |
re: #542 lifeofthemind
Eliot Ness went to the University of Chicago, played tennis, ended up an alcoholic.
Life is full of irony.
Indeed! I just liked that line because it sums up in one sentence all the implications, dynamics, and emotions- both good and bad- of doing any kind of investigation.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:53:44am |
Good grief!
Weather forecast for south Louisiana calls for possible snow, and possibly a 1" accumulation of "slush" overnight.
The effects of "global warming", I guess.
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:54:16am |
re: #545 beblebrox
he had so many good lines in that film.
Yeah - "Who would claim to be that who was not!"
...
Actually I think the film would have really kinda sucked without him.
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phoenixgirl Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:54:38am |
re: #553 reine.de.tout
Good grief!
Weather forecast for south Louisiana calls for possible snow, and possibly a 1" accumulation of "slush" overnight.The effects of "global warming", I guess.
bush's fault
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doriangrey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:54:46am |
re: #553 reine.de.tout
Good grief!
Weather forecast for south Louisiana calls for possible snow, and possibly a 1" accumulation of "slush" overnight.The effects of "global warming", I guess.
Yup, this damned gloBULL warming is going to freeze us all to death... ;p
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:54:54am |
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doriangrey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:55:34am |
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phoenixgirl Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:56:37am |
re: #559 doriangrey
good morning (((dorian)))
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:57:17am |
re: #537 doriangrey
With all due respect. This is politics ala the Democratic party... This will all disappear without a trace down the memory hole as we shall suddenly be facing some new crisis that shall arrive any day now to distract us from this.
Well you could be right.
Guy on the radio this morning told a story about the lady behind the counter at his news stand was all sad for Blago this morning and hoped he gets off. The guy reminded her of what he is on tape as doing, and the paper lady said "Yeah, but when he raises minimum wage I get more money, so I hope he gets off."
Like I always say about Chicago, the City that jerks together works together.
By the way, Dick "the Turban" Durbin can forget about getting former Gov Ryan pardoned now.
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Pietr Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:57:31am |
Well, Fellow Hatchlings and Senior Lizards...things to do. Have an enjoyable day...Cheers.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:58:18am |
re: #547 lifeofthemind
So Blago was trying to sell assets he did not own?
As Governor he gets to appoint the next Senator. That is what he was dealing.
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:58:52am |
Hey, MSM think of what a full-blown scandal involving BHO and friends would do for your ratings. You need the cash, right?
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 10, 2008 5:59:22am |
re: #558 vxbush
Ow...
VX, btw - I will have my laptop about noon and will make my play this afternoon sometime.
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vxbush Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:00:02am |
re: #565 reine.de.tout
VX, btw - I will have my laptop about noon and will make my play this afternoon sometime.
Oh, that's fine; I'm not worried about that. My head feels like it's going to explode today. You know those dolls you squeeze and the eyes bug out? That's me today.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:01:15am |
re: #549 Miss Trixie
Lessee if I can explain:
~ City Hall got wind of more than $8 million paid out in overtime to drivers, mechanics and stewards who were scheduling their own time, thumbing thier noses at management and logging as much OT as possible whether they actually worked OT or not. General OT abuse.
~ City Hall told Management to get this problem under control but because Management were too afraid to do anything, they let it continue.
~ It's budget time at City Hall, the Union's contract was due so City Hall offered them an extremely generous contract BUT it didn't include scheduling their own time, we have a strike.
Fire. Them. All.
Thanks for this explanation, and it seems a universal thing - rorting OT in taxpayer funded jobs
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:01:52am |
re: #566 vxbush
Oh, that's fine; I'm not worried about that. My head feels like it's going to explode today. You know those dolls you squeeze and the eyes bug out? That's me today.
2 Sudafed, 2 ibuprofen.
Might make you sleepy.
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:02:08am |
re: #561 3 wood
Well you could be right.
Guy on the radio this morning told a story about the lady behind the counter at his news stand was all sad for Blago this morning and hoped he gets off. The guy reminded her of what he is on tape as doing, and the paper lady said "Yeah, but when he raises minimum wage I get more money, so I hope he gets off."
Like I always say about Chicago, the City that jerks together works together.
By the way, Dick "the Turban" Durbin can forget about getting former Gov Ryan pardoned now.
Just like so many in Indonesia lost the ability to detect the signs of a pending tsunami, people in union towns lose the ability to detect toxic players. The good ole boys look good to them.
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doriangrey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:02:18am |
re: #564 DistantThunder
Hey, MSM think of what a full-blown scandal involving BHO and friends would do for your ratings. You need the cash, right?
The MSM is hemorrhaging cash at unbelievable levels right now because their political agenda is more important than money, no they dont need cash or a scandal. They need to be relevant and important, they need to tell us sheeple what to think, the last thing they need is a scandal showing their messiah to have feet of clay and just another corrupt politician.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:02:19am |
re: #549 Miss Trixie
~ City Hall got wind of more than $8 million paid out in overtime to drivers, mechanics and stewards who were scheduling their own time, thumbing thier noses at management and logging as much OT as possible whether they actually worked OT or not. General OT abuse.
~ City Hall told Management to get this problem under control but because Management were too afraid to do anything, they let it continue.
~ It's budget time at City Hall, the Union's contract was due so City Hall offered them an extremely generous contract BUT it didn't include scheduling their own time, we have a strike.
Fire. Them. All.
Basically, that was a printing press for the unions.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:02:49am |
Good morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day? It's my Friday..So I'm in a good mood..
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:03:32am |
re: #561 3 wood
Well you could be right.
Guy on the radio this morning told a story about the lady behind the counter at his news stand was all sad for Blago this morning and hoped he gets off. The guy reminded her of what he is on tape as doing, and the paper lady said "Yeah, but when he raises minimum wage I get more money, so I hope he gets off."
Like I always say about Chicago, the City that jerks together works together.
By the way, Dick "the Turban" Durbin can forget about getting former Gov Ryan pardoned now.
With a 'public' mentality like that we now know why they keep being put in office..."Give me a .25 cent raise and I'll vote for you!"...as each business raises prices collectively by .35 cents...
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vxbush Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:03:32am |
re: #568 reine.de.tout
2 Sudafed, 2 ibuprofen.
Might make you sleepy.
Heh. Normally I would agree with you, but I've got some other symptoms that aren't good. Given my thyroid, I'm going to take a trip to the doc today and see what he says.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:03:55am |
re: #564 DistantThunder
Too early for that yet. Only after he fails to follow through on all his hope/change promises and alienates the radical left will the msm start to dig up all the dirt they kept buried during the election.
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doriangrey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:04:17am |
re: #572 HoosierHoops
Good morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day? It's my Friday..So I'm in a good mood..
I see you managed to show up late so as to not have to bring everyone coffee... ;p
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:04:35am |
re: #572 HoosierHoops
Good morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day? It's my Friday..So I'm in a good mood..
Morning HH. The first thing I asked my wife this morning was "Is it Friday yet?" ... She said "No." ... sigh
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:05:16am |
re: #576 doriangrey
I see you managed to show up late so as to not have to bring everyone coffee... ;p
LOL
yup.. It will be a pretty busy day for me.. But I'm not complaining..
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:05:44am |
re: #542 lifeofthemind
Eliot Ness went to the University of Chicago, played tennis, ended up an alcoholic.
Life is full of irony.
He also was such a publicity hound, that when they would do a successful raid, he would divulge to the press who his informant was.
Said informant was usually found stuffed in the trunk of a car a few days later.
The FBI hated Ness cause he was always getting in the way of their investigations.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:06:07am |
re: #551 reine.de.tout
Good morning!
The "unions" want to protect the union and its officials.
In so many cases, the demands of unions set their members up for failure, with demands that can't be maintained and thus jobs are lost.
Hi there :-)
Yes, ambit claims that are totally pie in the sky stuff are regularly trotted out by some of our more militant unions and it's fascinating to watch - as they sometimes make jobs disappear instead
No wonder union membership is at an all time low here
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:06:09am |
re: #577 Ford_Prefect
Morning HH. The first thing I asked my wife this morning was "Is it Friday yet?" ... She said "No." ... sigh
I hear that.. I'm only working 3 days a week for the month.. Vacation time that I need to burn..
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:07:11am |
re: #573 Oh no...Sand People!
With a 'public' mentality like that we now know why they keep being put in office..."Give me a .25 cent raise and I'll vote for you!"...as each business raises prices collectively by .35 cents...
Greedy and unprincipled, working at minimum wage jobs as adults = a brewing stew of corrupt people enthusiastically electing corrupt leaders.
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doriangrey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:07:18am |
re: #581 HoosierHoops
I hear that.. I'm only working 3 days a week for the month.. Vacation time that I need to burn..
I wish I could burn some of my vacation time, I just have way to damned much to do at work to actually take any time off... ;(
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:07:23am |
re: #581 HoosierHoops
I hear that.. I'm only working 3 days a week for the month.. Vacation time that I need to burn..
Don't burn it. Send it my way. :-)
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:08:06am |
CNN ad on Drudge says: "Campbell Brown. No bias. No bull."
So CNN has to advertise they aren't biased?
LOL. yeah CNN - sure.
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doriangrey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:08:07am |
Well I gotta be off and running like a herd of turtles... Later Lizards...
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:08:44am |
re: #553 reine.de.tout
Good grief!
Weather forecast for south Louisiana calls for possible snow, and possibly a 1" accumulation of "slush" overnight.The effects of "global warming", I guess.
Last winter, there were light snowfalls in some Sydney suburbs - our PC weather bureau (GW adherents of course) called it "soft hail"" :-)
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doriangrey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:08:53am |
re: #585 FrogMarch
CNN ad on Drudge says: "Campbell Brown. No bias. No bull."
So CNN has to advertise they aren't biased?
LOL. yeah CNN - sure.
CNN=Lying liars telling lies...
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:09:04am |
re: #582 DistantThunder
Greedy and unprincipled, working at minimum wage jobs as adults = a brewing stew of corrupt people enthusiastically electing corrupt leaders.
Public education is the best tool politicians can buy.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:09:29am |
re: #585 FrogMarch
CNN ad on Drudge says: "Campbell Brown. No bias. No bull."
So CNN has to advertise they aren't biased?
LOL. yeah CNN - sure.
That is actually the name of her show. It makes me want to throw something at the TV every time I see it on the guide.
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:09:47am |
re: #572 HoosierHoops
Good morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day? It's my Friday..So I'm in a good mood..
Good morning to you too.
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:10:07am |
re: #585 FrogMarch
CNN ad on Drudge says: "Campbell Brown. No bias. No bull."
So CNN has to advertise they aren't biased?
LOL. yeah CNN - sure.
They're reading the polls that show that they are losing even more viewership and money because they are perceived as hyper-partisan.
I can't stand Campbell Brown's lisp. How could she have reached such heights with that lisp?
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:10:38am |
This is way cool!
Segway Inventor Builds Bionic Arm for Wounded GIs
Called the "Luke Arm" after the prosthetic hand sported by Luke Skywalker in the "Star Wars" movies, Dean Kamen's device is lightweight, self-contained and fully capable of picking up grapes, baby bottles, even electric drills.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:10:42am |
Morning everyone!
Including that slacker, Dorian...
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:10:50am |
re: #583 doriangrey
I wish I could burn some of my vacation time, I just have way to damned much to do at work to actually take any time off... ;(
Count your blessings.
It beats being out of work
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:11:05am |
re: #588 doriangrey
CNN=Lying liars telling lies...
Good morning D-Grey.
Totally. & CNN isn't even the worst culprit. MSNBC = DNC TV.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:11:06am |
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:11:40am |
re: #589 Oh no...Sand People!
Public education is the best tool politicians can buy.
That's where republicans have to hit hard next election. Putting kids in bad schools is child abuse - nothing less - hardball all the way with these democrat destroyers of the souls of Americans.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:12:16am |
re: #587 aussiemagpie
Last winter, there were light snowfalls in some Sydney suburbs - our PC weather bureau (GW adherents of course) called it "soft hail"" :-)
Soft hail? Isn't that a kind of motorcycle? Oh...wait...that's soft tail. My bad.
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Miss Trixie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:12:29am |
3wood
Basically, that was a printing press for the unions.
But but but the Union says "It's a matter of dignity".
*sob*
Dignity
Noun
S: (n) dignity, self-respect, self-regard, self-worth (the quality of being worthy of esteem or respect) "it was beneath his dignity to cheat"; "showed his true dignity when under pressure"
S: (n) dignity, lordliness, gravitas (formality in bearing and appearance) "he behaved with great dignity"
S: (n) dignity (high office or rank or station) "he respected the dignity of the emissaries"
I like your explanation much better 'cause you're right.
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oronpam Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:12:36am |
If your bi-sexual on call in gay to work day does that mean you only get a half day off?/
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:13:20am |
re: #601 oronpam
If your bi-sexual on call in gay to work day does that mean you only get a half day off?/
Full day at half pay on gay day.
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:13:33am |
re: #569 DistantThunder
Just like so many in Indonesia lost the ability to detect the signs of a pending tsunami, people in union towns lose the ability to detect toxic players. The good ole boys look good to them.
The logical conclusion of which is usually something along the lines of "...at least he makes the trains run on time".
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:14:37am |
re: #598 DistantThunder
That's where republicans have to hit hard next election. Putting kids in bad schools is child abuse - nothing less - hardball all the way with these democrat destroyers of the souls of Americans.
They will hit hard I am sure...with the wrong solutions...Hooray for both sides on the wrong side!
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:14:38am |
re: #593 Bubblehead II
This is way cool!
Segway Inventor Builds Bionic Arm for Wounded GIs
Called the "Luke Arm" after the prosthetic hand sported by Luke Skywalker in the "Star Wars" movies, Dean Kamen's device is lightweight, self-contained and fully capable of picking up grapes, baby bottles, even electric drills.
That is really cool!
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:14:42am |
Good morning y'all - from Bizzaro World! This morning the temperature in Charlotte is 62 degrees.
Yesterday morning at this time the temperature was in the 30's and on Monday it was 25 degrees when I came on-board! It's supposed to get up to 73 degrees here today, and although it's raining gently, my body is having trouble adjusting to 35-40 degree changes in the temperature in just 24 hours! LOL!
How is everyone doing today?
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:14:55am |
re: #603 CIA Reject
The logical conclusion of which is usually something along the lines of "...at least he makes the trains run on time".
Then they are no different than a band of criminals.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:15:26am |
By the way, with all the dirt they have on tape about Blago, Tony Rezco becomes a minor after thought in this entire investigation.
The significance of that is, if Rezco thought he could parlay some info. into an easier situation for himself, he waited too long.
Therefore, he will have to come up with some really good stuff (which I think he has) if he wants to get some attention back from the prosecutors and deal.
I'm thinking Rezco may suddenly begin to remember a whole bunch of stuff.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:15:52am |
re: #601 oronpam
No but if you're bi-sexual it doubles your chances of getting a date on Saturday night! (h/t Woody Allen)
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:16:05am |
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:16:26am |
re: #602 DistantThunder
Full day at half pay on gay day.
nice Rhyme,
For a second I thought
it was Dr. Suess time.
But twas not
LOL
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:16:29am |
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:16:57am |
re: #608 3 wood
By the way, with all the dirt they have on tape about Blago, Tony Rezco becomes a minor after thought in this entire investigation.
The significance of that is, if Rezco thought he could parlay some info. into an easier situation for himself, he waited too long.
Therefore, he will have to come up with some really good stuff (which I think he has) if he wants to get some attention back from the prosecutors and deal.
I'm thinking Rezco may suddenly begin to remember a whole bunch of stuff.
Obama already has a sizable pardon list coming up... can he pardon himself?
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:17:26am |
Hey Real - it's in the low 60's here in South Jersey and almost balmy. I can't complain.
Mr DT and son, 12, just took off for a 4 day trip to Indiana to teach a trapping-line class for wanna-be trappers.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:18:22am |
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:18:34am |
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:18:53am |
re: #599 Ford_Prefect
Soft hail? Isn't that a kind of motorcycle? Oh...wait...that's soft tail. My bad.
Good morning! (It's 1.15am Thursday here) and not knowing anything about motorcycles, except that they have two wheels, and my son has a Kawasaki - soft tail? Translation needed :-)
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:19:05am |
re: #608 3 wood
Good morning my friend! Hey isn't that something like 4 out of the last 5 Govenors of Illinois who've been indicted /served time?! No wonder the initials for it are Ill. LOL!
Hey those great reporters at Fox and Friends said that the Yankees signed Sabitha to the richest contract in baseball history...but of course couldn't be bothered to say HOW MUCH he was getting paid! Do you know?
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Dirk Diggler Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:19:26am |
Now more than ever, America needs a blog czar.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:19:40am |
re: #597 lifeofthemind
We all know that but re: #541 3 wood pointed out that Blago tried to sell Valerie Jarett to Obama, by demanding a series of payoffs to appoint her, and BO stiffed him by dealing with her directly.
Close.
Emanuel is alleged to have contacted Blago about the possibility of appointing Jarrett to the Senator position.
Blago then quoted his price tag for doing that "favor".
Emanuel then took the message back to Obama, who then just appointed Jarrett to a cabinet advisor position and Blago got told to go screw himself.
Emanuel then apparently dropped dime to the federal prosecutors about the solicitation for a bribe.
The prosecutors used that to get the wire tap.
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:19:47am |
re: #608 3 wood
By the way, with all the dirt they have on tape about Blago, Tony Rezco becomes a minor after thought in this entire investigation.
The significance of that is, if Rezco thought he could parlay some info. into an easier situation for himself, he waited too long.
Therefore, he will have to come up with some really good stuff (which I think he has) if he wants to get some attention back from the prosecutors and deal.
I'm thinking Rezco may suddenly begin to remember a whole bunch of stuff.
Obama's theme for his campaign was "no drama." He a coward who is non-confrontational but rather passive-aggressive. Now he's in the big leagues, and I imagine that this is his worst case scenario - dogged by scandal - and Fitzgerald. Popcorn!
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vxbush Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:19:52am |
re: #609 bosforus
OK - who's calling in sick today?
[hand goes up]
Oh! Oh! Me! Me! Pick me, Mr. Kotter!
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apachegunner Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:20:07am |
The unions are most concerned with the "Legacy" union members, not the current or new hires. They will be happy to remove benefits from newly hired people but do not touch the retirees re: #551 reine.de.tout
Good morning!
The "unions" want to protect the union and its officials.
In so many cases, the demands of unions set their members up for failure, with demands that can't be maintained and thus jobs are lost.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:20:15am |
re: #614 Oh no...Sand People!
Obama already has a sizable pardon list coming up... can he pardon himself?
That would have to be President Biden.
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:20:19am |
re: #606 realwest
Good morning y'all - from Bizzaro World! This morning the temperature in Charlotte is 62 degrees.
Yesterday morning at this time the temperature was in the 30's and on Monday it was 25 degrees when I came on-board! It's supposed to get up to 73 degrees here today, and although it's raining gently, my body is having trouble adjusting to 35-40 degree changes in the temperature in just 24 hours! LOL!
How is everyone doing today?
Good morning, RW. It's very cold here in south Texas this morning, 37 degrees and shooting for a high today of 52. Yesterday we reached a high of 86. It's snowing in San Antonio, 125 miles to our north.
Hope you're well today...the front is headed your way my friend.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:20:31am |
Anybody else waiting to see the rocket sled thingie they teased on FNC?
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:20:31am |
re: #613 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I thought yesterday was call in Gay day?
Did you see my response to your gun situation yesterday?
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:20:55am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:20:58am |
re: #611 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Well I tell ya the truth LT - I was starting to get used to colder weather, now my sinuses are clogged up and it's not (yet) quite warm enough inside nor cold enough inside to put on the A/C or Heat!
But I'll take the 63, thankew very much!
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:21:07am |
Let the creepy fear of democrat reprisals begin:
What this Democrat meant with his analogy—which on the facts so far seems a bit premature—was that Obama could suffer by being in the proximity of a back-scratching and deal-making culture, even if he was mostly a bystander. “What will splatter on to Obama is he is to some degree a product of this culture, and he has never entirely stood against it,” said the Democrat, who wanted anonymity for fear of antagonizing the president-elect.
In scandal, Risks for Obama Media will try really hard to cover for Obama
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:21:30am |
re: #619 aussiemagpie
Good morning! (It's 1.15am Thursday here) and not knowing anything about motorcycles, except that they have two wheels, and my son has a Kawasaki - soft tail? Translation needed :-)
To be honest I don't know much about motorcycles either. That is why the internet is so great!
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:21:33am |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:21:38am |
re: #629 DistantThunder
Nope, I missed it... sorry.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:21:57am |
re: #631 realwest
Well I tell ya the truth LT - I was starting to get used to colder weather, now my sinuses are clogged up and it's not (yet) quite warm enough inside nor cold enough inside to put on the A/C or Heat!
But I'll take the 63, thankew very much!
63 is nice.
I'm jealous.
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:22:22am |
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:22:26am |
re: #626 3 wood
That would have to be President Biden.
I am trying to wrap my mind around if that will be worse than Obama or no different? Imagine the PR nightmare of his handlers...
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:22:32am |
re: #630 Oh no...Sand People!
Markos Moulitsas?
/
Harry-anna Huffington already has that tied up. She's on her second pair of knee pads - at least!
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:23:08am |
re: #622 3 wood
Close.
Emanuel is alleged to have contacted Blago about the possibility of appointing Jarrett to the Senator position.
Blago then quoted his price tag for doing that "favor".
Emanuel then took the message back to Obama, who then just appointed Jarrett to a cabinet advisor position and Blago got told to go screw himself.
Emanuel then apparently dropped dime to the federal prosecutors about the solicitation for a bribe.
The prosecutors used that to get the wire tap.
So Obama didn't refuse to engage in corruption, he just refused to pay the price. The question is will Blago attempt to destroy Emmanuel and Obama now? What will be done to stop him?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:23:23am |
re: #638 Oh no...Sand People!
I am trying to wrap my mind around if that will be worse than Obama or no different? Imagine the PR nightmare of his handlers...
I think it would be funnier. Obama is too scary to be laugh-worthy.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:23:31am |
re: #503 x-wing
They came from Chicago,didn't they?
What I was trying to say was that just because they know each other doesn't mean they're close.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:23:46am |
re: #615 DistantThunder
Hi there DT - uh, how is it that Mr. DT knows all about setting trapping lines? I though the Beaver were trapped out - at least that's what Jim Bridger and Kit Carson (a very distant ancestor of mine) told me!
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:23:50am |
re: #639 DistantThunder
Harry-anna Huffington already has that tied up. She's on her second pair of knee pads - at least!
*shudder*...
/happy place...need my happy place...
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:23:51am |
re: #606 realwest
Good morning y'all - from Bizzaro World! This morning the temperature in Charlotte is 62 degrees.
Yesterday morning at this time the temperature was in the 30's and on Monday it was 25 degrees when I came on-board! It's supposed to get up to 73 degrees here today, and although it's raining gently, my body is having trouble adjusting to 35-40 degree changes in the temperature in just 24 hours! LOL!
How is everyone doing today?
*Smooch* from Down Under!
And you're experiencing *climate change* probably due to the higher carbon footprint of your new computer :-)
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:23:56am |
re: #622 3 wood
Close.
Emanuel is alleged to have contacted Blago about the possibility of appointing Jarrett to the Senator position.
Blago then quoted his price tag for doing that "favor".
Emanuel then took the message back to Obama, who then just appointed Jarrett to a cabinet advisor position and Blago got told to go screw himself.
Emanuel then apparently dropped dime to the federal prosecutors about the solicitation for a bribe.
The prosecutors used that to get the wire tap.
Great info. Updinged ya.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:24:11am |
re: #506 gregg
He has a wife and kids? I thought since he wasn't going to be at work today, it meant something else...
Two daughters.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:24:19am |
re: #622 3 wood
A bit on the Machiavellian side isn't that?
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:24:20am |
re: #624 vxbush
You're gonna call in sick on call in gay day? Not that there's anything wrong with that!
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:25:05am |
re: #632 FrogMarch
was that Obama could suffer by being in the proximity of a back-scratching and deal-making culture, even if he was mostly a bystander.
Does anyone really believe that he moved up through the system as quickly as he did without being a part of that back-scratching and deal-making culture?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:25:10am |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:25:11am |
Morning Mandy!
/or were you up all night again?
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:25:16am |
re: #620 realwest
Hey those great reporters at Fox and Friends said that the Yankees signed Sabitha to the richest contract in baseball history...but of course couldn't be bothered to say HOW MUCH he was getting paid! Do you know?
$160 million for 7 years according to ESPN.
It's their business, but I think they have way overpaid.
Sabathia tips his pitches, if you are observant enough to pick up on it.
I know what he is going to throw in every pitch.
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:25:37am |
re: #635 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Nope, I missed it... sorry.
Mr DT got out his 1911 and demonstrated your dilemna and but he couldn't figure out anyway to adapt your weapon. He feels your pain because he really loves this gun. He suggested a glock.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:25:41am |
re: #640 lifeofthemind
So Obama didn't refuse to engage in corruption, he just refused to pay the price. The question is will Blago attempt to destroy Emmanuel and Obama now? What will be done to stop him?
If I were Blago I would be hiring about 30 body guards about now...
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:26:08am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:26:14am |
re: #520 3 wood
I think not charging her yet was intentional.
They are going to give Blago a chance to bargain and plead guilty in exchange for not putting the Mrs. in an orange jumpsuit for 10 to 20.
Her Dad is Alderman Dick Mell, who really does not like Blago. My guess is Daddy is spending a lot of time talking his daughter into voluntarily giving States evidence.
Understand, Blago will not resign. He will try to leverage his ability to further screw up the State for anything he can get.
I doubt that Blago. has any feeling for anybody but himself though.
The State Senate is being called into session to remove Blago's ability to appoint the Senator and call for a general election to replace Obama.
And Obama still does not know who Blago is, probably could not recognize him on the street.
Would he shove his own wife and kids under the bus?
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:26:47am |
Music Used During U.S. Military Interrogations
• "Enter Sandman," Metallica.
• "Bodies," Drowning Pool.
• "Shoot to Thrill," AC/DC.
• "Hell's Bells," AC/DC.
• "I Love You," from the "Barney and Friends" children's TV show.
• "Born in the USA," Bruce Springsteen.
• "Babylon," David Gray.
• "White America," Eminem.
• "Sesame Street," theme song from the children's TV show.
Other bands and artists whose music has been frequently played at U.S. detention sites: Aerosmith, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Don McLean, Lil' Kim, Limp Bizkit, Meat Loaf, Rage Against the Machine, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Tupac Shakur.
Some of these artists and songs would make me confess to the Kennedy assassination to make the music stop.
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bosforus Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:27:02am |
re: #657 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Underwear looks too tight to be comfortable.
What do I win?
A day at work.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:27:17am |
re: #640 lifeofthemind
The question is will Blago attempt to destroy Emmanuel and Obama now? What will be done to stop him?
I doubt that you will hear much more about the Obama connection.
Obama does not even know the guy now.
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:27:22am |
I went over to HuffPo last night to see what the loons were saying. Several asshats were saying Balgo was a Reagan Democrat and he never was a true progressive liberal.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:27:25am |
re: #652 MandyManners
Welcome back. If they did, I am sure there wasn't a get out of jail free card inside of it.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:27:33am |
re: #625 apachegunner
Hey Guns - Spot on post! How are you today?
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:27:49am |
re: #648 Bubblehead II
A bit on the Machiavellian side isn't that?
Machiavelli was a naive bumpkin compared to these people.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:27:52am |
re: #655 DistantThunder
Mr DT got out his 1911 and demonstrated your dilemna and but he couldn't figure out anyway to adapt your weapon. He feels your pain because he really loves this gun. He suggested a glock.
Pooh... I thought you had an answer (Glock ain't it, I like my 1911's and don't want to buy additional guns right now).
Thanks for trying!
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:28:03am |
re: #643 realwest
heh heh he said beaver. heh heh heh
/beavis and butthead
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:28:18am |
re: #656 Oh no...Sand People!
If I were Blago I would be hiring about 30 body guards about now...
He is the problem of the FBI and the US Marshals now. Given that Blago can trust nobody now he might be safer with the feds than locals. Wonder what the Mrs. will do?
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:28:47am |
re: #659 Hard Right
• "I Love You," from the "Barney and Friends" children's TV show.
Now that is just cruel.
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OldLineTexan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:28:49am |
re: #659 Hard Right
Some of these artists and songs would make me confess to the Kennedy assassination to make the music stop.
We're saving "It's a Small World" for you, in case it's ever needed.
/Obama Civilian Security Team Alpha-Blago
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:28:51am |
re: #527 3 wood
Might be visiting Cuba and Venezuela soon.
If I were Fitzgerald, I'd be watching the airport.
I hope the rest of the arrest warrants get served quickly and that a lotof passports get confiscated.
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:28:56am |
re: #643 realwest
Hi there DT - uh, how is it that Mr. DT knows all about setting trapping lines? I though the Beaver were trapped out - at least that's what Jim Bridger and Kit Carson (a very distant ancestor of mine) told me!
I didn't realized either that Indiana has as huge trapping tradition. His partner, who happened to bodyguard Gen Petreaus in 2004- as an interesting side note - is a big trapper. They have a full class. People are serious about being self-reliant.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:29:04am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:29:07am |
re: #627 jorline
Hi Jorline - Well it is December so a little cooler air wouldn't be terrible, snow OTOH, you can keep - two winters down here, two inches of snow each winter.
I like that! LOL!
How's your RA today?!
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Miss Trixie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:29:09am |
{realwest} Morning luv *smooochie*
It's 19 degrees here, too much snow and my avatar's busting his buns 'o' steel digging us out.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:29:10am |
re: #658 MandyManners
Would he shove his own wife and kids under the bus?
In a second and he would not miss a bite of lunch doing it. .
But her Dad, Alderman Dick Mell will guide her through this.
My guess is the Mrs. will be singing like a bird very shortly.
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WriterMom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:29:13am |
Dear terrorists-have a nice cup of F%ck off and die this morning thankyouverymuch.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:30:09am |
re: #665 CIA Reject
So it would seem. When do the mysterious accidents start?
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:30:19am |
re: #659 Hard Right
Music Used During U.S. Military Interrogations
• "Enter Sandman," Metallica.
• "Bodies," Drowning Pool.
• "Shoot to Thrill," AC/DC.
• "Hell's Bells," AC/DC.
• "I Love You," from the "Barney and Friends" children's TV show.
• "Born in the USA," Bruce Springsteen.
• "Babylon," David Gray.
• "White America," Eminem.
• "Sesame Street," theme song from the children's TV show.
Other bands and artists whose music has been frequently played at U.S. detention sites: Aerosmith, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Don McLean, Lil' Kim, Limp Bizkit, Meat Loaf, Rage Against the Machine, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Tupac Shakur.
Some of these artists and songs would make me confess to the Kennedy assassination to make the music stop.
They left off Babs and they could have used the video version for a double-wammy.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:30:36am |
re: #661 3 wood
I doubt that you will hear much more about the Obama connection.
Obama does not even know the guy now.
If Blago wants to go nuclear can they stop him from singing in open court?
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apachegunner Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:31:01am |
re: #664 realwest
Hey Guns - Spot on post! How are you today?
doing great RW as I hope you are as well. Hows the fancy new computer pal? You seem so different behind that new keyboard and all that nifty memory and stuff. :>)
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OldLineTexan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:31:23am |
re: #681 lifeofthemind
If Blago wants to go nuclear can they stop him from singing in open court?
Did the Feds get him out of Illinois? Apparently not. So he could be "accident prone".
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:31:31am |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:31:42am |
re: #681 lifeofthemind
If Blago wants to go nuclear can they stop him from singing in open court?
He'd only do that if he thought it would help his ass.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:31:44am |
re: #622 3 wood
Close.
Emanuel is alleged to have contacted Blago about the possibility of appointing Jarrett to the Senator position.
Blago then quoted his price tag for doing that "favor".
Emanuel then took the message back to Obama, who then just appointed Jarrett to a cabinet advisor position and Blago got told to go screw himself.
Emanuel then apparently dropped dime to the federal prosecutors about the solicitation for a bribe.
The prosecutors used that to get the wire tap.
So, CBBHO could come out of this with an ehanced reputation for promoting "change"?
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:31:51am |
re: #659 Hard Right
AC/DC Back in black album is what is currently in my car cd player. Black Ice is on my christmas list.
They should have played Big Balls too. :)
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:32:03am |
I used to work a part time job at Pottery Barn (actually met my wife there). I would suggest staying away from there today. Thanks to this Gay Day thing they are likely to be very short staffed (no pun intended).
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Crux Australis Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:32:06am |
re: #659 Hard Right
Nooo... Britney Spears would make me confess to anything. lol
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OldLineTexan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:32:29am |
re: #686 MandyManners
So, CBBHO could come out of this with an ehanced reputation for promoting "change"?
Confess, you are a NYT mole!
/
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:32:36am |
Obama and his crew say they will keep us safe from a host of terrorist and terror states - but they didn't know what was happening in their own town. Allegedly.
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:32:41am |
re: #675 realwest
Hi Jorline - Well it is December so a little cooler air wouldn't be terrible, snow OTOH, you can keep - two winters down here, two inches of snow each winter.
I like that! LOL!
How's your RA today?!
The cold weather presents it's problems, but for the most part I'm doing well...thanks.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:32:49am |
re: #645 aussiemagpie
Hey {Aussie} - yeah for yesterday and today, Gore was right; that of course leaves about 3,000 days or so about which he was wrong! LOL!
And never you mind about the carbon footprint of my new 'puter - it's so fast it doesn't even leave footprints in the snow!
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:33:12am |
re: #681 lifeofthemind
If Blago wants to go nuclear can they stop him from singing in open court?
I guarantee that Blago will never get near a microphone in court.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:33:29am |
re: #633 Ford_Prefect
To be honest I don't know much about motorcycles either. That is why the internet is so great!
Thanks! What you learn here...now if my son ever mentions soft tails I'll think motorbikes, not fat bottoms :-)
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:33:48am |
re: #651 Ford_Prefect
Does anyone really believe that he moved up through the system as quickly as he did without being a part of that back-scratching and deal-making culture?
Pushed by the media machine-- blind faith. My eyes are open - Barry H. is a product of the corrupt Chicago way. His own wife was the beneficiary of his election to the Illinois state senate. 200,000 raise.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:33:50am |
re: #648 Bubblehead II
A bit on the Machiavellian side isn't that?
I'm beginning to think that these people had a Dick-and-Jane version of
The Prince
when they learned how to read.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:34:10am |
re: #696 aussiemagpie
Thanks! What you learn here...now if my son ever mentions soft tails I'll think motorbikes, not fat bottoms :-)
That would be a whole different website.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:34:16am |
re: #686 MandyManners
So, CBBHO could come out of this with an ehanced reputation for promoting "change"?
Absolutely. He will be painted by the MSM as Mr. Clean in all this.
By Friday, Obama will not even remember where Illinois is.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:34:16am |
re: #689 Ford_Prefect
I used to work a part time job at Pottery Barn (actually met my wife there). I would suggest staying away from there today. Thanks to this Gay Day thing they are likely to be very short staffed (no pun intended).
So if you want to meet lonely frustrated women take a job at PB? Does the shoot fish in a barrel theory work anywhere else? *takes out notepad.
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WriterMom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:34:20am |
re: #321 WestTexas
No counselling-dump wife-find non-cheating wife closer in age. Have children, live happily ever after.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:34:29am |
re: #653 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Morning Mandy!
/or were you up all night again?
I've not stayed up all night in ages and ages.
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:34:31am |
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:35:41am |
re: #702 lifeofthemind
So if you want to meet lonely frustrated women take a job at PB? Does the shoot fish in a barrel theory work anywhere else? *takes out notepad.
Hey Hey! That is my wife you are talking about.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:35:45am |
re: #654 3 wood
Yeah, but can ya hit it?!? LOL! That's a ridiculous sum for anyone to get paid, but at least the Yanks picked up a reliably winning pitcher with no known "social problems" and who'll give 'em lots of innings.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:36:12am |
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:36:25am |
re: #695 3 wood
I guarantee that Blago will never get near a microphone in court.
Why do you day that?
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:37:02am |
re: #703 WriterMom
No counselling-dump wife-find non-cheating wife closer in age. Have children, live happily ever after.
Yeah, the age difference is alarming - and with her personality it could mean that men her own age can spot her scamming ways a mile away.
He's lucky he's young and he should still talk to a private counselor about how he missed all the red flags and warning signs.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:37:10am |
re: #692 DistantThunder
Obama and his crew say they will keep us safe from a host of terrorist and terror states - but they didn't know what was happening in their own town. Allegedly.
What was that statistic I think for August or October...more murders in Chicago than deaths on the ground in Iraq. Get us OUT of CHICAGO!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:37:47am |
re: #663 Bubblehead II
Welcome back. If they did, I am sure there wasn't a get out of jail free card inside of it.
It just hit me that they wouldn't have said "MERRY CHRISTMAS" but, "SEASON'S GREETINGS" or "HAPPY HOLIDAYS."
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:37:52am |
re: #667 Texas Heathen
Oy! That just brought down the intellignce IQ of the whole thread!
:)
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:38:05am |
re: #679 Bubblehead II
So it would seem. When do the mysterious accidents start?
I don't know if it'll get that far, but a lot of "big fish" will be talking and dealing while a lot of "little fish" will have their lives and careers ruined- that's for sure.
The only issue in question is who will be the "big fish" and who will be the "little fish"..
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:38:47am |
re: #709 midwestgak
From the way the natives are talking, he may have a fatal accident before he can testify. %-)
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:39:00am |
Good morning {misstrixie}
nice to see you {aussiemagpie}
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:39:10am |
re: #677 3 wood
In a second and he would not miss a bite of lunch doing it. .
But her Dad, Alderman Dick Mell will guide her through this.
My guess is the Mrs. will be singing like a bird very shortly.
Wouldn't his attorneys be squawking about spousal privilege no matter how explicitly she waived it?
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:39:10am |
Good morning folks,
Camille Paglia raises some interesting questions. Firstly, about Obama & the Clintons:
As for Obama's appointment of Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, what sense does that make except within parochial Democratic politics? Awarding such a prize plum to Hillary may be a sop to her aggrieved fan base, but what exactly are her credentials for that position? Aside from being a mediocre senator (who, contrary to press reports, did very little for upstate New York), Hillary has a poor track record as both a negotiator and a manager. And of course both Clintons constantly view the world through the milky lens of their own self-interest. Well, it's time for Hillary to put up or shut up. If she gets as little traction in world affairs as Condoleezza Rice has, Hillary will be flushed down the rabbit hole with her feckless husband and effectively neutralized as a future presidential contender. If that's Obama's clever plan, is it worth the gamble? The secretary of state should be a more reserved, unflappable character -- not a drama queen who, even in her acceptance speech, morphed into three different personalities in the space of five minutes.
Given Obama's elaborate deference to the Clintons, beginning with his over-accommodation of them at the Democratic convention in August, a nagging question has floated around the Web: What do the Clintons have on him? No one doubts that the Clinton opposition research team was turning over every rock in its mission to propel Hillary into the White House. There's an information vacuum here that conspiracy theorists have been rushing to fill.
And about Mumbai:
Meanwhile, an area where too many in the mainstream media have been oddly AWOL is in the response to the attack on Mumbai, India, two weeks ago by a squad of Pakistan-based terrorists, who killed nearly 200 people. Reaction in the U.S. was somewhat muted because the protracted standoff occurred over the Thanksgiving holiday, when many Americans were traveling or absorbed in family business. But I was troubled by a persistent soft-pedaling of the identification of the attackers as Muslims --as if the mere reporting of that fact would be offensive and politically incorrect.
...The slaughter of the Hertzbergs and other Jews at Chabad House should be a wake-up call to Western liberals who believe that jihadism can be defeated through reason and happy talk. Only other Muslims can launch the stringent internal reform necessary to stomp this barbaric extremism out.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:39:14am |
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:39:16am |
re: #706 Ford_Prefect
Hey Hey! That is my wife you are talking about.
Sorry /// got lost in the mail. Now would you advise me to move to San Francisco and attend poetry slams or get into organic gardening? Reminds me of the Pancake House on Rush street in Chicago that cornered the business of all the people who were up for breakfast in that neighborhood bright and early.
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:39:22am |
re: #712 Oh no...Sand People!
What was that statistic I think for August or October...more murders in Chicago than deaths on the ground in Iraq. Get us OUT of CHICAGO!
Same with Hillary - allegedly oblivious to all of Bill's misdeeds including rape, assault, infidelity, etc - but she's the best pick for a negotiator in chief who can read the opposition?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:39:38am |
re: #694 realwest
Hey {Aussie} - yeah for yesterday and today, Gore was right; that of course leaves about 3,000 days or so about which he was wrong! LOL!
And never you mind about the carbon footprint of my new 'puter - it's so fast it doesn't even leave footprints in the snow!
Good to see the new computer is working so well :-)
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:40:07am |
re: #683 OldLineTexan
Did the Feds get him out of Illinois? Apparently not. So he could be "accident prone".
He has his own security.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:40:22am |
Well, need to get back to my personal straight day at work.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:40:39am |
re: #676 {Miss Trixie} Hey there gorgeous - sorry to hear about that warm spell you're having (! LOL) but cheer up, that fellow in your avatar seems to be having fun - waaay too much fun if you ask me!
And here's some *smoochies* back atcha!
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:40:46am |
re: #718 MandyManners
Wouldn't his attorneys be squawking about spousal privilege no matter how explicitly she waived it?
hummm. Good point.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:41:35am |
re: #691 OldLineTexan
Confess, you are a NYT mole!
/
Ah, BLEEP. You got me.
Seriously, did you read what The Trib wrote about how it cooperated with the Feds in witholding information? I imagine management was incredibly pissed at Blagojevich.
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:41:46am |
re: #720 midwestgak
Hey {jorline},
Good mornin' to you! and good to see ya.
Perhaps you can appoint the new Junior Senator from Illinois.
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:41:55am |
re: #719 Kenneth
I loved that phrase - reason and happy talk - which is exactly what Obama believes about his powers of persuasion.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:42:01am |
re: #722 DistantThunder
Same with Hillary - allegedly oblivious to all of Bill's misdeeds including rape, assault, infidelity, etc - but she's the best pick for a negotiator in chief who can read the opposition?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
She has great experience in dealing with lying prick Heads of State.
/not my line, but I wish it were!
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:42:08am |
re: #662 jorline
I went over to HuffPo last night to see what the loons were saying. Several asshats were saying Balgo was a Reagan Democrat and he never was a true progressive liberal.
Mornin' Jorline!
They refuse to own their bad eggs.
Until they do, they are morally doomed.
imo.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:42:15am |
re: #701 3 wood
Absolutely. He will be painted by the MSM as Mr. Clean in all this.
By Friday, Obama will not even remember where Illinois is.
Only 56 states?
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:42:16am |
re: #682 apachegunner
Glad to hear you're doing so well - I'm doing ok; just cause my new 'puter could run at a NASCAR event, doesn't mean my typing speed has increased any! LOL!
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:42:21am |
re: #615 DistantThunder
Hey Real - it's in the low 60's here in South Jersey and almost balmy. I can't complain.
Mr DT and son, 12, just took off for a 4 day trip to Indiana to teach a trapping-line class for wanna-be trappers.
Cool.. Visitors..Where at in Indiana?
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OldLineTexan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:42:35am |
re: #718 MandyManners
Wouldn't his attorneys be squawking about spousal privilege no matter how explicitly she waived it?
Didn't stop the Feds from going after Ken Lay's and Andrew Fausto's wives on a lot less. They put the squeeze on both (the "how would you like your children in state homes" kind of thing).
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:42:48am |
re: #669 Ford_Prefect
Now that is just cruel.
I thought it was briliantly evil. They also used Queen, Pantera, and lots of Nine Inch Nails.
Some british group called Reprieve is trying to get the use of the artists music stopped. Heres the link.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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OldLineTexan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:42:53am |
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:42:56am |
re: #717 Texas Heathen
Good morning {misstrixie}
nice to see you {aussiemagpie}
Hello {Texas Heathen} Good to see you!
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yochanan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:43:18am |
re: #639 DistantThunder
Harry-anna Huffington already has that tied up. She's on her second pair of knee pads - at least!
being that today is 'gay' day screw um markos gets today
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OldLineTexan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:43:24am |
re: #738 Hard Right
I thought it was briliantly evil. They also used Queen, Pantera, and lots of Nine Inch Nails.
Some british group called Reprieve is trying to get the use of the artists music stopped. Heres the link.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Fine. No more music. Porn mags of Cindy Sheehan and Hugo Chavez.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:43:29am |
Help me out here folks, putting together a list of ideas for no competition dating.
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WriterMom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:43:37am |
Will Broadway lights be out today? Women having a Universal Bad Hair Day?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:43:56am |
re: #703 WriterMom
No counselling-dump wife-find non-cheating wife closer in age. Have children, live happily ever after.
Oh, he still will need therapy to help him figure out how he got sucked in by this predator and how to avoid such women in the future. I'm concerned for his safety at the moment.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:43:57am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:44:07am |
re: #693 jorline
I'm glad to hear that you're doing well my friend - my joints are screaming at me: "first you freeze us, now you heat us, make up your effin' mind - pow!"!
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:44:13am |
re: #719 Kenneth
for the democrats - it's always about "plum jobs".
Why can't it be about the most qualified person for the job?
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:44:17am |
re: #742 OldLineTexan
Fine. No more music. Porn mags of Cindy Sheehan and Hugo Chavez.
Please, I might eat again this year.
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soccerdad Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:44:32am |
In his first post-election newspaper interview, with reporters from the Chicago Tribune and Los Angeles Times, Obama was asked: “Do you anticipate being sworn in as Barack Obama or Barack Hussein Obama?"He replied: “I think the tradition is that they use all three names, and I will follow the tradition, not trying to make a statement one way or the other. I'll do what everybody else does.”
In fact, all presidents have not used their middle names when taking the oath of office. Jimmy Carter famously went as “Jimmy Carter.” Ronald Wilson Reagan took the oath as simply “Ronald Reagan.”
Harry Truman, of course, didn’t have a middle name - just an initial that didn’t stand for anything — and was sworn in as “Harry S. Truman.” (We've gotten a lot of e-mail about the period after the 'S.' Despite the urban myth to the contrary, the Harry S. Truman Library and Museum says Truman put a period in his signature and posts a photo to prove it.)
Dwight D. Eisenhower and Gerald R. Ford took the oath using their middle initials.
Change! yeah...now he'll use his muslim name.
Any bets on his using the Koran to swear in ala Keith Ellison?
/just kidding - I know he's not a Muslim.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:44:34am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:45:03am |
re: #711 DistantThunder
Yeah, the age difference is alarming - and with her personality it could mean that men her own age can spot her scamming ways a mile away.
He's lucky he's young and he should still talk to a private counselor about how he missed all the red flags and warning signs.
WT wrote about how she was initially after a comrade but he avoided her. She sounds like a real piece of work.
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pingjockey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:45:25am |
Mornin' all. For some weird reason I stopped at PMSNBC, the gang there said 'ol Blago was just 'venting' and din't mean any of what he said! Amazing!
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:45:47am |
re: #732 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
She has great experience in dealing with lying prick Heads of State.
/not my line, but I wish it were!
But she was obviously a total failure at curbing his behavior. Dick Morris described an incident where he was telling Bill some inconvenient truths after which he told Bill - so if you change your mind, call me. Morris turned around and walked towards the front door (this while Bill was governor) and Bill Clinton tackled him from behind knocking him to the ground. Hillary was aghast and helped Morris up and apologized profusely saying: "You know how he gets."
Enabler is not a good characterisitic for SOS.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:45:48am |
re: #709 midwestgak
Why do you day that?
Cause he's going to end up pleading guilty for a reduced sentence on some of this stuff.
He is now a leper in the Democratic Machine in Chicago, he can screw the deal up for them and they can't let that happen. In the Chicago mindset, you can be crooked as the day is long, they expect that and accept it. But don't be this stupid and arrogant to get caught on tape.
So Blago is going to be destroyed by the Machine now, and anybody who ever saw him even jaywalk is going to be running to the prosecutor to jump on the pile. Bag men are going to be walking in off the street and offering to turn States evidence for a walk.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:45:53am |
re: #695 3 wood
Hmmm - so you don't think Blago is gonna want revenge for that "betrayal"? I thought this was Chicago Politics or The Chicago Way - they hit one of us, we kill two of them sorta stuff.
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:46:04am |
re: #742 OldLineTexan
Fine. No more music. Porn mags of Cindy Sheehan and Hugo Chavez.
oh g*d! I think I just threw up a little.
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WriterMom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:46:10am |
re: #745 MandyManners
I hate therapy, therapists, social workers, etc..he should just get himself an account here and we can slap talk some sense into him.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:46:19am |
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:46:46am |
re: #719 Kenneth
I gulped when Obama also pledged educational reform by putting state-of-the-art computers in every classroom. Groan. Computers alone will never solve the educational crisis in this country: They are tools and facilitators, not primary conveyors of knowledge. Packing his team with shiny Harvard retreads, Obama missed a golden opportunity to link his public works project with a national revalorization of the trades. Practical training in hands-on vocational skills is desperately needed in this country, where liberal arts education has become a soggy boondoggle, obscenely expensive and diluted by propaganda and groupthink.
She is sooo right.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:46:55am |
re: #721 lifeofthemind
No sweat. And I wouldn't sentence anyone to a life in San Francisco. That might make them uncomfortable, and we can't have that. ///
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:47:01am |
re: #728 Bubblehead II
Sadly, you are probably right.
Whatever floats their boat...or, guides their sleigh.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:47:07am |
re: #754 DistantThunder
But she was obviously a total failure at curbing his behavior. Dick Morris described an incident where he was telling Bill some inconvenient truths after which he told Bill - so if you change your mind, call me. Morris turned around and walked towards the front door (this while Bill was governor) and Bill Clinton tackled him from behind knocking him to the ground. Hillary was aghast and helped Morris up and apologized profusely saying: "You know how he gets."
Enabler is not a good characterisitic for SOS.
Sure it is - since SOS is the universal sign of distress!
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:47:29am |
re: #710 3 wood
LOVE the new 'puter, hate the fact that a LOT of software makers don't have VISTA compatible software and don't understand why they don't!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:47:41am |
re: #737 OldLineTexan
Didn't stop the Feds from going after Ken Lay's and Andrew Fausto's wives on a lot less. They put the squeeze on both (the "how would you like your children in state homes" kind of thing).
That's fucking despicable.
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:48:05am |
re: #733 reine.de.tout
Mornin' Jorline!
They refuse to own their bad eggs.
Until they do, they are morally doomed.
imo.
Agree or they they link them to conservatives...good to see you, reine.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:48:17am |
re: #739 OldLineTexan
How much do they make?
*rimshot*
I'm sure the feds will be keeping very close tabs on the governor.
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:48:18am |
re: #622 3 wood
Blago failed to realize that while a state senator would need to crawl to the Governor for favors, the president-elect does not. This raises the question whether Obama is fundamentally honest or only situationally so. My guess is that Obama didn't need any more favors from Blago, so under the bus he goes.
A big problem remains: how much does Blago know about Obama's shady past? Would he be willing to talk about if it will reduce his sentence? Blago might answer those questions, "F*ckin' plenty!" and "Hell, yeah!"
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:48:27am |
re: #736 HoosierHoops
Cool.. Visitors..Where at in Indiana?
Somewhere near Ashley in Northern Indiana.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:48:28am |
re: #718 MandyManners
Wouldn't his attorneys be squawking about spousal privilege no matter how explicitly she waived it?
Sure they can yell.
But if she waives it, and voluntarily testifies, so what.
She can't be "compelled" to testify.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:48:37am |
re: #321 WestTexas
Ok so here's some shameless advice seeking, but since y'all seem to very level headed people it seems to be a good place to look for it. My brother is back from South Korea on leave. He is in the Army and has been married for roughly a year and a half. He is twenty one and his wife is thirty six. She has been cheating on him for six months and he found this out the day he got back. He has been mulling over divorce for the last few days and can't make a definitive decision. I normally would suggest counseling and what not to him, but she is a very mean and self-centered person. She treats him very badly (hence the cheating), and I would like to be able to tip the scale for him, but don't want to seem bias or pit him against me.
P.S. I know it's a lot to ask from a group that I have just recently met, but time is limited and I have been a lurker for so long sometimes I am more emboldened than I should be.
Thank you
The immigrant visa that she probably came into the country on has a two year requirement for the marriage to be in effect or she loses her shot at citizenship. He needs to act and get rid of her immediately.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:48:49am |
re: #743 lifeofthemind
Help me out here folks, putting together a list of ideas for no competition dating.
What is that?
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:48:52am |
re: #742 OldLineTexan
Fine. No more music. Porn mags of Cindy Sheehan and Hugo Chavez.
Hey! I'm eating here!
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WriterMom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:49:09am |
Vomit alert!
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yochanan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:49:21am |
john Kass is spot on. looking for a honest pol in chicagoland CAN'T FIND ONE
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:49:36am |
re: #730 jorline
Perhaps you can appoint the new Junior Senator from Illinois.
Well, the only republican I know who wants to run for office is my fellow coworker. Wants to run for Governor one day. Sadly, I will never vote for him. Doesn't follow through with little things he states he will do. Hot air.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:49:44am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:49:57am |
re: #746 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good to hear...
I don't fight insomnia by tossing and turning. All that does is piss me off and ensure that I don't relax.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:50:10am |
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:50:15am |
re: #747 realwest
I'm glad to hear that you're doing well my friend - my joints are screaming at me: "first you freeze us, now you heat us, make up your effin' mind - pow!"!
Stay well...you're cold air blast is coming. Joints should never scream they should be smoked...lol ;)
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:50:27am |
re: #743 lifeofthemind
Help me out here folks, putting together a list of ideas for no competition dating.
I have a suggestion, but I hear there is a risk of blindness.
/
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:51:02am |
re: #751 HoosierHoops
Good morning Jorline..Realwest..Gak..er.. everybody
Hey, Hoopster. You at work today or taking a vacation day?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:51:36am |
re: #758 WriterMom
I hate therapy, therapists, social workers, etc..he should just get himself an account here and we can
slaptalk some sense into him.
LOL!
I don't hate all but, there are some out there who make my butt itch.
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:52:18am |
re: #758 WriterMom
I hate therapy, therapists, social workers, etc..he should just get himself an account here and we can
slaptalk some sense into him.
i'm finishing my degree in counseling and my close friend is a nurse, marriage and family counselor and sex therapist - and she's borderline sadistic when it comes to picking the emotional scabs that people have built up. It is very gratifying to see her work - genuinely helping people to take themselves on - no more excuses.
Yeah, slapping them around.
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pingjockey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:52:20am |
re: #787 MandyManners
Go to Ace Hardware. They have some stuff for that!
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:52:21am |
re: #659 Hard Right
AC/DC at loud volumes is a blessing.
But Barbara Streisand? That's the one that would make me talk.
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apachegunner Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:52:29am |
Hey GAK, gawd I luv that name I really do :>)
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:52:31am |
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Karridine Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:52:31am |
re: #755 3 wood
Eggs Ackley, 3W! Blago got CAUGHT ON TAPE!
Sin! Shame! Dirty! Leper! Not for DOING THE CRIMES, but for getting CAUGHT!
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:52:37am |
re: #321 WestTexas
She's never going to be good to him. Nobody deserves that sh*t. He's young, "got his whole life ahead of him". Divorce her right now asap. Get on with his life. He won't regret it.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:52:38am |
Rather funny story...
Respected research institute needs an interpreter...
CHINESE characters look dramatic and beautiful, and have a powerful visual impact, but make sure you get the meaning of the characters straight before jumping right in.
A respected research institute that wanted Chinese classical texts to adorn its journal to illustrate a special report on China, got a racy flyer extolling the lusty details of stripping housewives in a brothel.
The editorial board of one of Germany's top scientific institutions, the Max Planck Institute, ran the text of a handbill for a Macau strip club on the front page of its latest journal, The Independent newspaper in the UK reports.
Editors had hoped to find an elegant Chinese poem to grace the cover of a special issue, focusing on China.
Oh dear...
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:52:48am |
re: #770 3 wood
Sure they can yell.
But if she waives it, and voluntarily testifies, so what.
She can't be "compelled" to testify.
Could they argue that the thought of prison and losing her daughters is compulsion?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:52:56am |
re: #786 jorline
Hey, Hoopster. You at work today or taking a vacation day?
That's pretty funny... now everyone who does stay home today will leave a lingering question in the minds of co-workers and bosses:
Is he/she Gay?
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:53:05am |
re: #777 midwestgak
Well, the only republican I know who wants to run for office is my fellow coworker. Wants to run for Governor one day. Sadly, I will never vote for him. Doesn't follow through with little things he states he will do. Hot air.
lol...I see an opportunity...Gak for Governor.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:53:15am |
re: #772 MandyManners
What is that?
Places were there are few straight men to compete with. We've been talking about moves to SF, taking a job at the perfume counter, hanging out at Democratic party mixers.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:53:27am |
Good morning, {all y'all}!
I'm just on for a bit; gotta go to the dentist.
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:54:01am |
re: #797 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
That's pretty funny... now everyone who does stay home today will leave a lingering question in the minds of co-workers and bosses:
Is he/she Gay?
LMAO...ding
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OldLineTexan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:54:12am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:54:25am |
re: #771 lifeofthemind
The immigrant visa that she probably came into the country on has a two year requirement for the marriage to be in effect or she loses her shot at citizenship. He needs to act and get rid of her immediately.
From what he posted subsequently, she's an American. (She has a 16-year-old boy who splits time with her and his father.)
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:54:28am |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:54:33am |
re: #795 aussiemagpie
Rather funny story...
Respected research institute needs an interpreter...
Oh dear...
Engrish works both ways.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:54:45am |
re: #768 Kenneth
Hi Kenneth! Yeah, that's why I asked 3 wood about Blago's desire for revenge - which I could understand - he asked a normal Chicago political question and he got turned in and on, by his Chicago Machine Pal Obama - Blago's a lot of things, but I just don't see him not wanting - and actively trying to get,
revenge!
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:54:50am |
re: #748 FrogMarch
To be frank, with politicians in general, it's always about giving plum jobs to friends and allies. If we're lucky, they happen to be competent. But not always.
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:55:00am |
re: #800 redstateredneck
Good morning, {all y'all}!
I'm just on for a bit; gotta go to the dentist.
Good morning...sorry to hear about the dentist.
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WriterMom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:55:23am |
re: #788 DistantThunder
No offence to you personally, but my experience has been that the people who are supposed to "help" are pretty f-cked up themselves. There is a certain sadistic power over people's lives that they hold and they can cause innocent people a lot of trouble. I have a problem with the therapy industry. Too much navel gazing. There are obviously good ones, but I find most people just need someone who will talk straight with them and I think that the whole therapy industry takes responsibility away from individuals and wrongly invests it in external solutions.
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OldLineTexan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:55:26am |
re: #789 pingjockey
Go to Ace Hardware. They have some stuff for that!
A thousand updings for running gag!
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:55:48am |
re: #795 aussiemagpie
I've heard of people getting Chinese tattoos, only to find out later that they don't mean what they were told they did!
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:56:11am |
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Karridine Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:56:13am |
re: #771 lifeofthemind
I second that, IF she's Korean... If she's American and cheating, mean and spiteful, divorce SOONER!
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:56:26am |
re: #777 midwestgak
"Doesn't follow through with little things he states he will do. Hot air."
Sounds like a Chicago pol to me!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:56:52am |
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:56:55am |
re: #809 WriterMom
No offence to you personally, but my experience has been that the people who are supposed to "help" are pretty f-cked up themselves. There is a certain sadistic power over people's lives that they hold and they can cause innocent people a lot of trouble. I have a problem with the therapy industry. Too much navel gazing. There are obviously good ones, but I find most people just need someone who will talk straight with them and I think that the whole therapy industry takes responsibility away from individuals and wrongly invests it in external solutions.
No doubt about that. The good ones put the responsiblity back on the individual to change himsefl and take action.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:57:14am |
re: #797 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Not if it's a regularly scheduled day off.
/dodged that one by just this much I I
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:57:30am |
re: #797 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
That's pretty funny... now everyone who does stay home today will leave a lingering question in the minds of co-workers and bosses:
Is he/she Gay?
I almost called in because I didn't get much sleep. Does that mean I'm secretly confused?
///
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:57:31am |
re: #774 WriterMom
Vomit alert!
Yes well, look who said it: Mary uber-whiner Robinson. Is there anything in the world that isn't a human rights issue for her?
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:57:37am |
re: #811 redstateredneck
I've heard of people getting Chinese tattoos, only to find out later that they don't mean what they were told they did!
I think that most of them translate to 'gullible round-eyed barbarian'.
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pingjockey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:57:37am |
re: #810 OldLineTexan
Thanks. BTW, we're all gonna die! Scientists have found a super massive black hole at the center of the Milky Way. We're all going down the drain!
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:57:47am |
re: #756 realwest
Hmmm - so you don't think Blago is gonna want revenge for that "betrayal"? I thought this was Chicago Politics or The Chicago Way - they hit one of us, we kill two of them sorta stuff.
He's toast. He can want whatever he want's, he's on the outside looking in now.
He's going to get hit with so much stuff, nobody is going to listen to what he says he has on anybody else.
Chicago Machine politicians like Daley, Madigan, Stroger and the rest are not going to stand by and let him hurt them. I'm sure strategy sessions were going on all day yesterday at City Hall and downstate on how to protect the Machine and isolate Blago in all this.
You have to remember, the Republican party is practically non-functioning in this State, so there is no loyal opposition to turn up the heat.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:58:02am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:58:30am |
re: #781 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
"No competition" dating? Sounds like marriage.
Wouldn't know. I booted him out after six months.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:58:44am |
re: #800 redstateredneck
Good morning, {all y'all}!
I'm just on for a bit; gotta go to the dentist.
G'day darls, and I hope it's nothing too painful!
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DistantThunder Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:58:44am |
re: #823 3 wood
He's toast. He can want whatever he want's, he's on the outside looking in now.
He's going to get hit with so much stuff, nobody is going to listen to what he says he has on anybody else.
Chicago Machine politicians like Daley, Madigan, Stroger and the rest are not going to stand by and let him hurt them. I'm sure strategy sessions were going on all day yesterday at City Hall and downstate on how to protect the Machine and isolate Blago in all this.
You have to remember, the Republican party is practically non-functioning in this State, so there is no loyal opposition to turn up the heat.
The failed state of Illinois.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:58:55am |
re: #808 jorline
Good morning...sorry to hear about the dentist.
Thanks, but it's just a cleaning and checkup!
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:58:59am |
re: #763 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Sure it is - since SOS is the universal sign of distress!
Or an acronym for "Sh*t on a Shingle"...
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:59:00am |
re: #796 MandyManners
Could they argue that the thought of prison and losing her daughters is compulsion?
That's why they have not charged her.
She can't deal to get rid of charges that were never filed.
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:59:01am |
Morning {redstate}
We've got quite a few of the old ddt here today. If only M would show up and NMM.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:59:04am |
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:59:10am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:59:11am |
re: #800 redstateredneck
Dentist, ARGH! {red} best of luck!
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:59:39am |
re: #819 Hard Right
I almost called in because I didn't get much sleep. Does that mean I'm secretly confused?
///
Depends if you get Hard Right when you see a cute guy. ;)
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 6:59:41am |
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:00:19am |
re: #821 razorbacker
I think that most of them translate to 'gullible round-eyed barbarian'.
:D
Serves 'em right!
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pingjockey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:00:36am |
re: #834 MandyManners
I'm thinking gag stocking stuffers for my three boys!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:00:41am |
re: #811 redstateredneck
I've heard of people getting Chinese tattoos, only to find out later that they don't mean what they were told they did!
Which is why there are so many weird English phrases on Japanese t-shirts. The Japanese like the look of English words, but don't know what they mean. For example. And this too.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:00:41am |
re: #799 lifeofthemind
Places were there are few straight men to compete with. We've been talking about moves to SF, taking a job at the perfume counter, hanging out at Democratic party mixers.
Ooooh. Now I get it.
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bosforus Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:00:47am |
re: #692 DistantThunder
Obama and his crew say they will keep us safe from a host of terrorist and terror states - but they didn't know what was happening in their own town. Allegedly.
Not a direct reply to your comment but - Personally, I think it's entirely possible that Obama didn't know anything about what Blago was doing. These kinds of things can happen so discretely that only the people directly involved know anything about them. Having said that, of course, I also believe it's entirely possible that Obama knew what was going on and simply didn't say anything or may have even been directly involved.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:00:59am |
re: #839 realwest
Hi jorline? What about me and Guns?!
Whoops! got a phone call there..
I meant to say Good morning to both of you
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:01:09am |
re: #806 realwest
I agree. Between Hot-rod and Rezko, there is a lot of motivation to talk.
Both Emmanual and Obama are from the same sesspool. It could be that Emmanual and Obama are truly above criminal behavior, but I have my doubts. At the very least we will get the full story on what happened with the Obama real-estate deal.
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:01:14am |
re: #837 jorline
Depends if you get Hard Right when you see a cute guy. ;)
Definite no. Whew. I feel better now.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:01:15am |
re: #793 Karridine
Eggs Ackley, 3W! Blago got CAUGHT ON TAPE!
Sin! Shame! Dirty! Leper! Not for DOING THE CRIMES, but for getting CAUGHT!
That is the situation in Chicago.
You can do just about anything and they will accept you, but don't get caught doing it.
Like I was told many times growing up in Chicago, it's not illegal if you don't get caught.
Not that I ever did anything that wold have been illegal, you understand.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:01:23am |
re: #822 pingjockey
Morning ping - not if it can't find us...DUCK! LOL!
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:01:31am |
re: #833 Texas Heathen
Morning {redstate}
We've got quite a few of the old ddt here today. If only M would show up and NMM.
m has fallen off the face of the earth.
:-(
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:02:08am |
re: #830 redstateredneck
Thanks, but it's just a cleaning and checkup!
Still ask for the gas...wheee
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:02:29am |
re: #731 DistantThunder
Bush expressed it perfectly, about the futility of meeting unconditionally with thugs & dictators, "as if by some ingenious argument they will finally be convinced to change their ways."
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:02:45am |
re: #832 3 wood
That's why they have not charged her.
She can't deal to get rid of charges that were never filed.
Couldn't his attorneys still say that charges were imminent and that was why she is talking?
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:02:50am |
re: #842 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I like the second one!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:02:52am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:03:31am |
re: #823 3 wood
"He's going to get hit with so much stuff, nobody is going to listen to what he says he has on anybody else. "
So you don't think Blago has anything that FEDERAL prosecutors would be interested in - or Federal courts?
I know what you're saying, I just don't see Blago letting it go at being shoveled over.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:03:44am |
re: #841 pingjockey
I'm thinking gag stocking stuffers for my three boys!
Oh, I'd forgotten about The Kid's stocking stuffers. Thanks for reminding me!
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pingjockey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:03:49am |
re: #849 realwest
Mwahaha! I'm wondering if we're gonna get the same uproar in 2012 that we did in 2000. People buying canned food, water, etc... I've had a stash of that stuff since 1998. In case of earthquake, power loss, occasional volcano. Not end of the world doomsday scenarios.
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Karridine Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:04:13am |
re: #842 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I almost double over laughing in Hong Kong a couple years ago, staid Little Ole Chinese Lady carrying a shopping bag from a department store, with a big, bold "Yuck Foo" in English, although it WASN'T quite that subtle...
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:04:25am |
re: #851 jorline
Still ask for the gas...wheee
You sound like my husband. When the dentist comes in, they hygenist tells him he doesn't even want to know what the mix is that he's getting.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:04:39am |
re: #848 3 wood
I can imagine Mike Royko is laughing himself silly.
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:04:41am |
Obama & Emanuel Are So Close With Blagojevich That They Led His Campaign For Governor
come on MSM - time to cover it up for your guy!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:04:44am |
re: #817 Bubblehead II
Not if it's a regularly scheduled day off.
/dodged that one by just this much I I
Either you a secret member of a group of gays, or you fall into the unpleasant position of someone with HIV having to try to convince everyone your actually Haitian.
/not that there's anything wrong with that.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:04:47am |
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:05:41am |
bbiaw. Timer on the dryer just went off.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:05:47am |
re: #850 redstateredneck
He {red} have you heard anything about m's hubby and how he's mending or not?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:06:04am |
re: #846 DeafDog
I agree. Between Hot-rod and Rezko, there is a lot of motivation to talk.
Both Emmanual and Obama are from the same sesspool. It could be that Emmanual and Obama are truly above criminal behavior, but I have my doubts. At the very least we will get the full story on what happened with the Obama real-estate deal.
"Above criminal behavior"... funniest thing I've seen all year. :-)
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:06:50am |
re: #869 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
"Above criminal behavior"... funniest thing I've seen all year. :-)
And by "above" we mean up to his hairline in it.
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pingjockey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:06:53am |
re: #865 aussiemagpie
Some of those translations are a riot. We had some milling machines with the caution signs printed in engrish. Hilarious! "Do not insert had into machine. Bad results may occur".
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:06:58am |
re: #798 jorline
lol...I see an opportunity...Gak for Governor.
You're a dear, but I think 3 wood would be more effective. : )
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WriterMom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:06:59am |
Finally good news: Muslim birth rates in Israel plumetting.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:07:58am |
Looks like the market is so far looking favorably at the Big 3 bail out.
DOW s up 72
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:08:28am |
re: #868 realwest
He {red} have you heard anything about m's hubby and how he's mending or not?
No. Between that and the mortgage crisis I don't even know if she's working. I emailed her awhile back, but didn't hear back from her. I miss our girl!
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:08:58am |
re: #811 redstateredneck
I've heard of people getting Chinese tattoos, only to find out later that they don't mean what they were told they did!
LOL!
Imagine ending up with "Hot housewives who strip" tattooed somewhere...
instead of "" I love Mum""
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:09:03am |
re: #870 Hard Right
And by "above" we mean up to his hairline in it.
Damn lawyers... 1 mm above illegal is totally fine and dandy.
Standards? We don't need no stinkin' standards!
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:09:21am |
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:09:23am |
Inventor Le Trung, 33, created Aiko, said to be “in her 20s” with a stunning 32, 23, 33 figure, shiny hair and delicate features.
She even remembers his favourite drink and does simple cleaning and household tasks.
He said he did not build Aiko as a sexual partner, but said she could be tweaked to become one.
I'm not buying his last statement based on his first comment.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:09:28am |
re: #865 aussiemagpie
Yes and this proves it :-)
And a little Christmas Engrish for your enjoyment
more the engrish!
The real story of Batman is one of my favorites!
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:09:32am |
re: #871 pingjockey
Some of those translations are a riot. We had some milling machines with the caution signs printed in engrish. Hilarious! "Do not insert had into machine. Bad results may occur".
The best is the menu. Links to it have circulated for a long time.
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Karridine Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:09:42am |
re: #848 3 wood
What? Who?
MOI?
/perish the thought, 3W! But perish that "it ain't illegal if you don't get caught!"
/uh-oh... bedtime 2210 here in the suburbs of Bangkok... see y'all tomorrow!
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:09:49am |
re: #874 realwest
Huh. I thought Royko was dead?!
So, you think that means he can't vote or something? Whatofit?
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:10:17am |
re: #871 pingjockey
Some of those translations are a riot. We had some milling machines with the caution signs printed in engrish. Hilarious! "Do not insert had into machine. Bad results may occur".
I used to work in a facility with lots of ESL folks. One area was a "trailer city" with a particularly muddy parking lot. At the front door to one trailer was a brand new door mat, and prominently displayed on the front door was a neatly hand-lettered sign saying:
PLEASE WIPE YOURSELF BEFORE ENTERING
Somehow I don't think that's what they meant...
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:10:19am |
Jayzuz...who'da thought Hezballah would have a better judge of character than our Dem's...and probably el-Grandi Presidenti-elect? Hezbollah refuses to meet US ex-president Carter
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:10:30am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:10:43am |
re: #863 FrogMarch
Whoa, I just loved this part from your link:
On the Chicago TV show “Public Affairs with Jeff Berkowitz” on June 27, 2002, state Sen. Obama said, “Right now, my main focus is to make sure that we elect Rod Blagojevich as Governor, we…”“You working hard for Rod?” interrupted Berkowitz.
“You betcha,” said Obama.
“Hot Rod?” asked the host.
“That’s exactly right,” Obama said.
In 2004, then-Gov. Blagojevich enthusiastically endorsed Obama for the Senate seat after he won the nomination, and Obama endorsed Blagojevich for his 2006 re-election race in early 2005.
Hmm, maybe Rahm gets thrown under the bus?!
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:10:45am |
re: #869 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
"Above criminal behavior"... funniest thing I've seen all year. :-)
Ya know, I am hedging my language because I'm struggling with a breaking Obama scandal so soon. I want him to succeed, but deep down, I think that's a futile desire.
The guy is not even in office yet and this crap is already starting (largely because he was never truely vetted during the campaign).
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:11:14am |
Good [bleeping] morning! How the [bleep] is everyone?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:11:23am |
re: #879 aussiemagpie
LOL!
Imagine ending up with "Hot housewives who strip" tattooed somewhere...
instead of "" I love Mum""
They're not necessarily mutually exclusive concepts
/
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:11:37am |
re: #877 redstateredneck
Me too. Didja try e-mailing a second time?
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:12:00am |
re: #853 MandyManners
Couldn't his attorneys still say that charges were imminent and that was why she is talking?
They can say whatever they want.
If no charges are filed, no charges are filed.
But if her Dad, Dick Mell is still the guy I knew, she will testify, she will provide and back up evidence they need, blago will go away for a very long time, and Dick Mell will sit in court every day and look Blago in the eye every chance he gets and grin.
Dick Mell is an old style Chicago politician of the first order. You mess with him or his family, you are going down hard.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:12:06am |
re: #833 Texas Heathen
Morning {redstate}
We've got quite a few of the old ddt here today. If only M would show up and NMM.
And widow'smight :-)
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:12:10am |
Hmmm. I sense a disturbance in the hamsters.
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Karridine Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:12:26am |
re: #863 FrogMarch
Obama & Emanuel Are So Close With Blagojevich That They Led His Campaign For Governor
come on MSM - time to cover it up for your guy!
Interesting!
Has America ever had a president-elect get subpoenaed and prosecuted before the swearing-in?
That's a thought, Obama NAILED and derailed without ever taking orifice!
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:12:47am |
re: #892 Occasional Reader
Good [bleeping] morning! How the [bleep] is everyone?
[bleeping] great, OR. How the [bleep] are you?
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:12:52am |
re: #883 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
The real story of Batman is one of my favorites!
Bruce found a basement under his villa that turned him into another person: Spiderman. With this mask Spiderman stroke all criminal activates
Well, that must have been awkward.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:13:19am |
re: #888 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Hi Aboo - I didn't think they had that much class! Well when it comes to who they'll meet with, anyway!
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:13:21am |
re: #894 realwest
Me too. Didja try e-mailing a second time?
No. Her address was on my work computer and it crashed. If you have it, send it to me.
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:13:24am |
Former Finland leader accepts Nobel Peace Prize
"All crises, including the one in the Middle East, can be solved," the former Finnish president said in his Nobel acceptance speech, even as he admitted it was "the most challenging peace-building project ahead of us.
"We cannot go on, year after year, simply pretending to do something to help the situation in the Middle East. We must also get results," he said as he received the prize for his efforts to resolve conflicts from Kosovo to Indonesia and Namibia.
"Peace is a question of will. Wars and conflicts are not inevitable," he said, arguing that they are caused by people who have something to gain from them. "All conflicts can be settled."
Super genius!
The Middle East will see no peace so long as the aggressors are rewarded for their acts of terrorism. Further rewards & incentives will ony exacerbate the problem.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:13:43am |
re: #686 MandyManners
So, CBBHO could come out of this with an ehanced reputation for promoting "change"?
Not so much. Obama will gain nothing substantial from it, though he has earned a thank you for doing the right thing. Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel showed good judgment in dropping the dime on the Gov.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:13:52am |
re: #884 redstateredneck
The best is the menu. Links to it have circulated for a long time.
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:14:42am |
It's funny, I look at obama's picks and see leftists in the most important positions.
Others look and say he's moving right. Except for Gates and Jones, I just don't see it. Because he didn't pick kucinich for Sec of Def he's moving to the center?
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:14:56am |
re: #892 Occasional Reader
I'm [bleeping] Fine - how's about yourownself?!
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:15:03am |
re: #906 Dark_Falcon
Not so much. Obama will gain nothing substantial from it, though he has earned a thank you for doing the right thing. Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel showed good judgment in dropping the dime on the Gov.
Is it confirmed that Emanuel is the one who brought in Fitzgerald? I heard the speculation, but had not seen where that was confirmed.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:15:06am |
re: #905 UFO TOFU
And Frax.
That outlaw has been missing in action for a long time! He gave us up for gaming.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:15:27am |
re: #901 Occasional Reader
Well, that must have been awkward.
I think I might go as the abnormal drug trafficker Dr. Jackstraw for Halloween next year.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:15:46am |
re: #891 DeafDog
Ya know, I am hedging my language because I'm struggling with a breaking Obama scandal so soon. I want him to succeed, but deep down, I think that's a futile desire.
The guy is not even in office yet and this crap is already starting (largely because he was never truely vetted during the campaign).
Think of it this way.
You (and the rest of us) are standing on the beach above the waterline of the waves. You are hoping beyond hope the ocean isn't as deep as it looks. I, 150 miles from Chicago, is convinced, that it is actually much deeper.
By 20 Jan, we'll be standing in the first bit of water, knee deep or so... some will still hope it doesn't get too deep.
I don't want to know how fast we'll walk out into it to prove the depth.
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:15:52am |
re: #873 WriterMom
Finally good news: Muslim birth rates in Israel plumetting.
Are you Jews shrinking penises again?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:16:28am |
re: #890 realwest
Whoa, I just loved this part from your link:
Hmm, maybe Rahm gets thrown under the bus?!
No, Rahm threw Blago under the bus first. I'm still loving this story.
It's Fitzmas in Chicago, and under the bus with Rod!
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UFO TOFU Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:16:34am |
re: #911 redstateredneck
That's right, I had forgotten that.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:16:49am |
re: #907 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Mmmm-mmm. I could go for some cowboy leg.
;-)
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WriterMom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:16:57am |
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:17:04am |
re: #830 redstateredneck
Thanks, but it's just a cleaning and checkup!
I went to the dentist the past two Saturdays after taking a two year break (I'll say it first, "That's stupid"). Scaling and Root Planeing isn't anything you want to go through.
My next appointment is in 6 months. And every 6 months after that!
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:17:08am |
re: #903 redstateredneck
Sorry {red} lost some of my e-mail addys when data was transfered to this computer and can't find it yet!
Ya know anyone else we could ask?
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:17:41am |
re: #871 pingjockey
Some of those translations are a riot. We had some milling machines with the caution signs printed in engrish. Hilarious! "Do not insert had into machine. Bad results may occur".
That's for sure - I just love reading the directions on some of the stuff we buy - makes me smile which is a good thing :-)
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:17:45am |
re: #908 Hard Right
We're talking about "progressives" who see Hillary as a "neo-liberal", which is almost as bad as a neo-con.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:17:59am |
re: #904 Kenneth
From your link:
Ahtisaari and his organization Crisis Management Initiative "saw opportunities where others only saw conflict," [Nobel peace prize committee chair] Mjos said.
And he praised the Finn's work in pressing Slobodan Milosevic to end the war in Kosovo in 1999
How odd, I seem to recall the US Air Force having something to do with that. So they'll be next up for a peace prize, right?
[crickets]
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:18:28am |
re: #921 midwestgak
I went to the dentist the past two Saturdays after taking a two year break (I'll say it first, "That's stupid"). Scaling and Root Planeing isn't anything you want to go through.
My next appointment is in 6 months. And every 6 months after that!
Bless your heart! My neighbor had to have her entire mouth done. The good thing was she lost about 40 pounds!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:18:28am |
re: #896 3 wood
They can say whatever they want.
If no charges are filed, no charges are filed.
But if her Dad, Dick Mell is still the guy I knew, she will testify, she will provide and back up evidence they need, blago will go away for a very long time, and Dick Mell will sit in court every day and look Blago in the eye every chance he gets and grin.
Dick Mell is an old style Chicago politician of the first order. You mess with him or his family, you are going down hard.
I read on Wiki that there is no love between him and Daley.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:18:29am |
re: #902 realwest
Hi Aboo - I didn't think they had that much class! Well when it comes to who they'll meet with, anyway!
You'd think they could at least have him to tea and maybe an extended stay. Maybe even a 444 day tour of Iran, they loved him there.
We'd pay the ransombailout...honest.
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:18:30am |
re: #924 Kenneth
We're talking about "progressives" who see Hillary as a "neo-liberal", which is almost as bad as a neo-con.
Ah, the rabid DUNG/koslim types. Jeez, vote for one war...
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:18:33am |
"Peace is a question of will. Wars and conflicts are not inevitable," he said, arguing that they are caused by people who have something to gain from them. "All conflicts can be settled."
And the award to the world's greatest idiot goes to... *drumroll please*
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:18:34am |
re: #916 Dark_Falcon
So you don't think Blago is gonna try to get SOME revenge?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:18:38am |
re: #910 DeafDog
Is it confirmed that Emanuel is the one who brought in Fitzgerald? I heard the speculation, but had not seen where that was confirmed.
i was assuming that what 3 Wood posted was true. Blago had become a liability to the machine, thus it was in the machine's interest to be rid of him.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:18:49am |
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:19:06am |
re: #922 realwest
Sorry {red} lost some of my e-mail addys when data was transfered to this computer and can't find it yet!
Ya know anyone else we could ask?
christheprofessor
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:19:24am |
re: #856 realwest
So you don't think Blago has anything that FEDERAL prosecutors would be interested in - or Federal courts?
I know what you're saying, I just don't see Blago letting it go at being shoveled over.
I don't think the Fed's are going to let their case get that messy.
They got Blago cold and they know it and as long as they stay focused on him this will be relatively quick and clean.
But if they start letting Blago divert their attention and try to point fingers at others, it could get out of control on them. They won't let that happen.
And anybody else in the Machine here who might be helpful for Blago is going to develop amnesia, move to Mars, or otherwise be unfindable very very soon.
You can see it already in the interviews, nobody knows who Blago even is.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:19:40am |
re: #919 redstateredneck
Mmmm-mmm. I could go for some cowboy leg.
;-)
Some steamed forest frog plaster sounds yummy for dessert!
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:19:48am |
re: #444 3 wood
Yep, I remember Fast Eddie. He got the name because he was so fast the Feds couldn't keep up with him.
The Chicago Way is for them all to turn their backs on Blago now, and turn State's Evidence against him. It's all a big game to them. The shit could really hit the fan if Blago decides he should give up some of them in return. It'll be interesting seeing the long knives come out over then next couple of days.
As for the Senate candidates, I know candidate #1 is Valerie Jarrett. There's no doubt about it. Candidates #2 and #3 are a bit more vague. Rep. Jankowsky thinks she may be #3. Candidate #4 is claimed to be a deputy governor. Should be easy to figure out who. Candidate #5 is where all the interest is this morning. Who is he? There's a lot of suspicion it is none other than Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. I'd believe it, and it fits what I've seen.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:19:58am |
re: #924 Kenneth
We're talking about "progressives" who see Hillary as a "neo-liberal", which is almost as bad as a neo-con.
In most of the world (including Canada?), "neo-liberal" would mean someone who we call a "conservative". ("Liberal" having preserved its original Adam Smith flavor in the phrase.)
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WriterMom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:19:58am |
I have a low-tech tip regarding e-mail addresses. Set up a gmail account, and export all of your contacts from Outlook to gmail. It automatically updates your contacts. That way, even if you switch computers you will always have your e-mail addresses, independent of whatever hard drive they are on. You can also load your contacts onto a flash drive and have that as a back-up.
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apachegunner Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:20:03am |
bleep re: #892 Occasional Reader
Good [bleeping] morning! How the [bleep] is everyone?
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notutopia Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:20:23am |
re: #315 Sharmuta
KEWL!
I have a PAPA SMURF personality!
You are Papa Smurf. You are a natural born leader. You are wise for your years and enjoy the simple things in life. You are happiest when those around you are happy and when life is harmonious. Sometimes you bear the weight of the world on your shoulders, but you genuinely want what is best for others and will make the sacrifices to achieve it. The world is a better place with you in it!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:20:49am |
re: #906 Dark_Falcon
Not so much. Obama will gain nothing substantial from it, though he has earned a thank you for doing the right thing. Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel showed good judgment in dropping the dime on the Gov.
An enhanced reputation is substantial.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:20:53am |
re: #923 aussiemagpie
That's for sure - I just love reading the directions on some of the stuff we buy - makes me smile which is a good thing :-)
I love those little packs of silica gel that are in shoe boxes and purses..."DO NOT EAT".
Well, damn. That looked tasty.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:20:55am |
re: #862 MandyManners
I can imagine Mike Royko is laughing himself silly.
Royko has got to be laughing his ass off from Heaven. Shame he isn't here to see this.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:20:59am |
re: #862 MandyManners
I can imagine Mike Royko is laughing himself silly.
Mike always said the City motto was "Where's Mine?"
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Lincolntf Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:21:24am |
re: #754 DistantThunder
I heard Dick Morris speak last year ( John Locke Foundation event) and he recounted that exact same story. I was shocked that he'd so openly accuse the ex-President of beating the hell out of him. The room was awkwardly silent until he made a joke about his size compared to Big Billy. Morris actually turned out to be a witty, funny, self-deprecating guy. Not at all the arrogant guttersnipe I remember him being during his Clinton years. And man, does he hate Hillary.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:21:29am |
re: #934 redstateredneck
Yeah but CtP hasn't been around and I e-mailed him the day before they changed 'puters and got no response!
Can you try him?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:21:30am |
I think Candidate #5 is none other than Jackson Jr.
/and the law is coming for him, too.
Boy, is that going to be a juicy mess.
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:21:54am |
re: #892 Occasional Reader
Good [bleeping] morning! How the [bleep] is everyone?
[bleeping] wonderful.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:21:57am |
re: #931 realwest
So you don't think Blago is gonna try to get SOME revenge?
It depends on what he has. I don't think he has anything on Obama. I wish he did, but my suspicion is that Obama has not done anything illegal since taking elective office.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:22:32am |
re: #880 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Damn lawyers... 1 mm above illegal is totally fine and dandy.
Standards? We don't need no stinkin' standards!
You Can't Handle the Standards!
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:22:43am |
re: #944 redstateredneck
I love those little packs of silica gel that are in shoe boxes and purses..."DO NOT EAT".
I toss those in my ammo box.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:22:47am |
re: #914 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good analogy.
May I humbly add that there are helicopters (i.e. the MSM) circling above that promise shallow water as far as the eye can see.
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gregg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:23:00am |
ECO WARRIORS SNITCH ON BEAVERS FOR 'ILLEGAL LOGGING' :
GREEN campaigners called police after discovering an illegal logging site in a nature reserve – only to find the culprits were a gang of beavers.
Environmentalists found 20 neatly stacked tree trunks and others marked with notches for felling at a beauty-spot in Subkowy, northern Poland.
But when officers followed a trail left by a tree which had been dragged away, they found a beaver dam right across the river as reported by the Austrian Times.
While they are a pain in the butt most of the time, they do provide entertainment.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:23:41am |
re: #940 WriterMom
I have a low-tech tip regarding e-mail addresses. Set up a gmail account, and export all of your contacts from Outlook to gmail. It automatically updates your contacts. That way, even if you switch computers you will always have your e-mail addresses, independent of whatever hard drive they are on. You can also load your contacts onto a flash drive and have that as a back-up.
And, write them down in a notebook.
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Lincolntf Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:23:41am |
re: #948 realwest
Realwest, are you a Yankees fan? I seem to remember that you are. What do you think of the Sabathia deal?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:23:45am |
re: #954 DeafDog
Good analogy.
May I humbly add that there are helicopters (i.e. the MSM) circling above that promise shallow water as far as the eye can see.
Good one! I likey rong time.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:23:46am |
re: #955 gregg
First they came for the beavers, and I said nothing...
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:24:26am |
re: #922 realwest
I have her old aol address. Think it's still good?
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:24:28am |
re: #892 Occasional Reader
Good [bleeping] morning! How the [bleep] is everyone?
Wrong side of the bed this morning?
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:24:49am |
re: #948 realwest
Yeah but CtP hasn't been around and I e-mailed him the day before they changed 'puters and got no response!
Can you try him?
Oh, hell. Beach Lover will have it. I'll get it from her.
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:24:53am |
re: #899 Karridine
Interesting!
Has America ever had a president-elect get subpoenaed and prosecuted before the swearing-in?That's a thought, Obama NAILED and derailed without ever taking orifice!
not going to happen. The media will protect him. (not saying he's guilty of anything anyway - but we already know that Obama's skeletons (which would have eliminated any other politician) don't matter.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:24:55am |
re: #945 Honorary Yooper
Royko has got to be laughing his ass off from Heaven. Shame he isn't here to see this.
Who was the journalist who used the phrase "hizzonor"?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:24:55am |
re: #957 Lincolntf
Realwest, are you a Yankees fan? I seem to remember that you are. What do you think of the Sabathia deal?
Did you apologize to Thanos for those things you posted yesterday?
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:25:06am |
re: #961 midwestgak
Wrong side of the bed this morning?
No, I'm just Blago-Fitzgeraldizing my conversation.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:25:22am |
re: #951 Dark_Falcon
Hasn't done anything illegal (let's not talk about taking contributions from some unusal "American" citizens) or hasn't been caught.
I know and respect 3 woods' judgment, but you don't get to be govenor in Ill. without being a mean, nasty s.o.b. - I think he will sing like a canary if he has anything to sing - and loud enough that the Feds can't ignore it.
It is, after all,The Chicago Way.
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:25:36am |
re: #809 WriterMom
I agree. Few people have the vast social net that once was the norm. It's rare to have two parents in the home, and rarer still to have grandparents in the home or in the neighborhood. Add in the aunts, uncles, cousins, the 'once-removed', and sometimes even greats-whatever and a priest (rabbi, shaman, whatever) along with friends that you made on your own.
Folks don't have anyone to talk to anymore, so they have to pay a stranger to listen, umm humm on cue, and offer what used to be 'common sense' advise. And that stranger doesn't have a lifetime of personal observation to base their advise on.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:26:09am |
re: #946 3 wood
Mike always said the City motto was "Where's Mine?"
I lived there when I was a kid and I remember my dad going on and on about the corruption. Is there any way to get rid of it or, is it in the DNA?
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:26:32am |
re: #959 Occasional Reader
First they came for the beavers, and I said nothing...
came for the beavers...heh heh
/dirty thoughts
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:26:52am |
re: #957 Lincolntf
I think we've got a guy who wins a lot of games and, maybe more importantly, throws a lot of quality innings. But NO ATHELETE is worth that much dough.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:26:56am |
re: #932 Dark_Falcon
i was assuming that what 3 Wood posted was true. Blago had become a liability to the machine, thus it was in the machine's interest to be rid of him.
Emanuel dropped dime.
It may not be officially reported, but that's the way it went down.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:27:22am |
re: #949 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I think Candidate #5 is none other than Jackson Jr.
/and the law is coming for him, too.
Boy, is that going to be a juicy mess.
Most agreed. Fitzgerald seems most interested in Senate Candidate #5.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:27:22am |
re: #960 Texas Heathen
Could be! Hey, give it a try! Please!
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:27:25am |
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:27:48am |
re: #940 WriterMom
I have a low-tech tip regarding e-mail addresses. Set up a gmail account, and export all of your contacts from Outlook to gmail. It automatically updates your contacts. That way, even if you switch computers you will always have your e-mail addresses, independent of whatever hard drive they are on. You can also load your contacts onto a flash drive and have that as a back-up.
How'd you get so smart? : )
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:27:53am |
re: #973 realwest
I think we've got a guy who wins a lot of games and, maybe more importantly, throws a lot of quality innings. But NO ATHELETE is worth that much dough.
I am.
Send it my way and give me a season to prove it.
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WriterMom Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:27:54am |
re: #968 razorbacker
Folks don't have anyone to talk to anymore, so they have to pay a stranger to listen, umm humm on cue, and offer what used to be 'common sense' advise. And that stranger doesn't have a lifetime of personal observation to base their advice on
.
DING DING DING
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:28:02am |
re: #963 FrogMarch
not going to happen. The media will protect him. (not saying he's guilty of anything anyway - but we already know that Obama's skeletons (which would have eliminated any other politician) don't matter.
Not sure about that. I don't think Obama did anything wrong here, but if he did I could see the Dems turning on him if Fitzgerald brought the evidence to light. If I were BHO, I'd keep a close eye on my so-called 'friends' right now.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:28:29am |
re: #965 Dark_Falcon
Did you apologize to Thanos for those things you posted yesterday?
I'm dinging the little fucker.
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:28:30am |
I visit Theo Spark's joint every day. The 'totties' are nice, but he also links various things that amuse...
WWII Trivia...
You might enjoy this from history buff Col D. G. Swinford, USMC, Ret.
You have to dig deep for facts like these:1. The first German serviceman killed in WW II was killed by the Japanese (China, 1937), the first American serviceman killed was killed by the Russians (Finland 1940); highest ranking American killed was Lt Gen Lesley McNair, killed by the US Army Air Corps. So much for allies.
2. T he youngest US serviceman was 12 year old Calvin Graham, USN. He was wounded and given a Dishonorable Discharge for lying about his age. His benefits were later restored by act of Congress.
3. At the time of Pearl Harbor, the top US Navy command was called CINCUS (pronounced "sink us"), the shoulder patch of the US Army's 45th Infantry division was the Swastika, and Hitler's private train was named " Amerika." All three were soon changed for PR purposes.!
4. More US servicemen died in the Air Corps than the Marine Corps. While completing the required 30 missions, your chance of being killed was 71%.
5. Generally speaking, there was no such thing as an average fighter pilot. You were either an ace or a target. For instance, Japanese Ace Hiroyoshi Nishizawa shot down over 80 planes. He died while a passenger on a cargo plane.
6. It was a common practice on fighter planes to load every 5th round with a tracer round to aid in aiming. This was a mistake. Tracers had different ballistics so (at long range) if your tracers were hitting the target 80% of your rounds were missing. Worse yet tracers instantly told your enemy he was under fire and from which direction. Worst of all was the practice of loading a string of tracers at the
end of the belt to tell you that you were out of ammo. This was definitely not something you wanted to tell the enemy. Units that stopped using tracers saw their success rate nearly double and their loss rate go down.7. When allied armies reached the Rhine, the first thing men did was pee in it. This was pretty universal from the lowest private to Winston Churchill (who made a big show of it) and Gen. Patton, who had himself photographed in the act.
8. German Me-264 bombers were capable of bombing New York City, but they decided it wasn't worth the effort.
9. German submarine U-120 was sunk by a malfunctioning toilet.
10. Among the first "Germans" captured at Normandy were several Koreans. They had been forced to fight for the Japanese Army until they were captured by the Russians, and forced to fight for the Russian Army until they were captured by the Germans, and forced to fight for the German Army until they were captured by the US Army.
SAVING THE BEST FOR LAST...
11. Following a massive naval bombardment, 35,000 United States and Canadian troops stormed ashore at Kiska, in the Aleutian Islands. 21 troops were killed in the assault. It would have been worse if there had been any Japanese on the island.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:28:39am |
re: #932 Dark_Falcon
i was assuming that what 3 Wood posted was true. Blago had become a liability to the machine, thus it was in the machine's interest to be rid of him.
It could be, but I have my doubts because this is such a public execution. If they thought he was a liability, it would have been quieter to promote him out of the position.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:28:52am |
re: #971 Texas Heathen
came for the beavers...heh heh
/dirty thoughts
Why does that not surprise me?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:28:57am |
re: #979 Iron Fist
Who is the quote from? It sounds like Linus talking about the Great Pumpkin.
Up topic, from a post about the some Finn getting a Nobel prize, IIRC.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:29:36am |
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:29:39am |
re: #938 Honorary Yooper
Candidate #5 is where all the interest is this morning. Who is he? There's a lot of suspicion it is none other than Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. I'd believe it, and it fits what I've seen.
Jesse Jackson Sr. was asked about it and he said "no comment".
I ask you, when was the last time Jesse "the Human Moth" Jackson Sr. did not have anything to say?
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:29:45am |
re: #974 3 wood
Yeah, but if that's true my friend, I can't see Blago going away without taking someone with him - and the Feds can't ignore some things, ya know?
I'm gonna start the popcorn!
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:30:19am |
If American newspapering had any wit left in it, some wag of an editor would launch a sidebar called "Unwelcome Distractions." Instead, give 'em another month or three and Obama may be the first president able to hold singalong press conferences.
-Steyn.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:31:10am |
re: #991 3 wood
Jesse Jackson Sr. was asked about it and he said "no comment".
I ask you, when was the last time Jesse "the Human Moth" Jackson Sr. did not have anything to say?
Um, never. He always has something to say, even when he has nothing to do with it.
/You're blockin' the cameras.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:31:33am |
re: #990 MandyManners
Ha! Just try to find that paper! LOL!
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:31:42am |
Obama Has Absolutely Not Spoken With Blagojevich ... Except When They Were Speaking
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:31:59am |
re: #938 Honorary Yooper
Feel bad about Fast Eddie going down. He grew up over a Mexican whore house in the far far south-west side, went to the University of Chicago Law school, made it to head of the Cook County Democratic Committee at a young age, switched to the Republicans, and then this happens. Illinois has two kinds of politicians, Fast Eddies and Big Jims. Eddie once came to campus and gave a half dozen of us an excellent hour on how one party democracy could work, if it kept the cost low and responded to constituent needs. He knew his Thukydides.
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UFO TOFU Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:32:05am |
First they came for the beavers, and I said nothing...
I was pretty sure that would bring Heathen out...
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:32:25am |
re: #967 realwest
Hasn't done anything illegal (let's not talk about taking contributions from some unusal "American" citizens) or hasn't been caught.
I know and respect 3 woods' judgment, but you don't get to be govenor in Ill. without being a mean, nasty s.o.b. - I think he will sing like a canary if he has anything to sing - and loud enough that the Feds can't ignore it.
It is, after all,The Chicago Way.
Jim Edgar served two terms as governor of my state and he's not a SOB. It is possible to hold statewide office in Illinois and be honest. And that is a possibility the GOP should be anxious to explore, as this scandal will improve our fortunes in this state if we play it right. If there is to be a special election, we need a good Senate candidate and we need one quickly.
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:32:36am |
re: #977 realwest
just sent her an email. we'll see if it goes through or gets bounced back.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:32:49am |
re: #970 Iron Fist
This is counter-intuitive, but if this scandal reaches to Obama and/or Emanuel, it may improve federal governance, because it will limit his ability to govern at all. Make sense?
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bosforus Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:32:56am |
Prayers for this man.
Man who lost family when jet hit house: I don't blame pilot
SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) -- A Korean immigrant who lost his wife, two children and mother-in-law when a Marine Corps jet slammed into the family's house said Tuesday he did not blame the pilot, who ejected and survived."Please pray for him not to suffer from this accident," a distraught Dong Yun Yoon told reporters gathered near the site of Monday's crash of an F/A-18D jet in San Diego's University City community.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:33:16am |
re: #997 FrogMarch
Obama Has Absolutely Not Spoken With Blagojevich ... Except When They Were Speaking
Obama's been in full CYA mode since this hit about 8am CST yesterday morning. Too bad Axelrod screwed it up for him by mentioning they had been talking just a few days ago.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:33:23am |
re: #974 3 wood
Emanuel dropped dime.
It may not be officially reported, but that's the way it went down.
What's your source?
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:33:47am |
re: #1004 bosforus
I saw him on tv this morning. What a terrible tragedy.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:33:52am |
re: #986 razorbacker
Interesting, but one thing makes me question the source:
8. German Me-264 bombers were capable of bombing New York City, but they decided it wasn't worth the effort.
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:33:57am |
re: #944 redstateredneck
I love those little packs of silica gel that are in shoe boxes and purses..."DO NOT EAT".
Well, damn. That looked tasty.
True story. Pharmacist got a call from a lady about her medication. She was confused. She had been taking her med, but wanted to know when she could eat. After many questions it was determined she had not eaten for many hours for some unknown reason. Turns out that the pack of silica gel that said--Do Not Eat was included in her bottle.
Don't ask me about "ghost pills."
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:34:14am |
re: #947 Lincolntf
Once heard him describe how he started at Stuyvesant High School as the manager for Jerry Nadler's student government campaign. Yes he really hates Hillary.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:34:16am |
re: #883 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
The real story of Batman is one of my favorites!
That is hilarious! Thanks for the laugh
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garycooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:35:19am |
re: #959 Occasional Reader
First they came for the beavers, and I said nothing...
At this juncture, I think I can safely announce that the mouse-holocaust in my garage and basement has been concluded, with no fresh kills or stolen baits in several days. "Mission Accomplished!" The death-count stands at 13, which means if the geniuses who compute the "Iraq Body Count" were handling the accounting, the count would be in the hundreds, possibly thousands.
I have to say this, too: Mice are gifted with an extraordinary sense of smell, which means they must be able to detect the odor of the mouse that preceded them on the plastic, reusable traps. If the mouse didn't get the bait, I just flipped them into the trash, and reset the trap. Next day, another mouse, with his mouth on the same bait. Sometimes the same trap caught 5-6 mousies in a row, before having to be reloaded, or the trigger-mechanism getting too bent to close easily.
Conclusion: Mice aren't as smart as they are depicted in cartoons.
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96RoadKing Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:35:41am |
Does anyone know what the Senate seat was going for? I had a bid in for 8 ounces of gold, 2 mules, 10 pounds of coffee, and a used frying pan...
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:35:52am |
re: #974 3 wood
Emanuel dropped dime.
It may not be officially reported, but that's the way it went down.
I'm not so sure. They've been on Blago's tail for quite some time now, and managed to get the wiretap recently.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:35:54am |
re: #996 realwest
Ha! Just try to find that paper! LOL!
Spiral-bound notebook. With copies elsewhere.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:35:56am |
re: #1001 Dark_Falcon
Got any names for the Repub's? I'd pick 3 wood, but I like him waaay too much!
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:36:23am |
re: #955 gregg
While they are a pain in the butt most of the time, they do provide entertainment.
Who ecologists or beavers?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:36:23am |
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:36:45am |
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:36:57am |
re: #1008 Occasional Reader
Interesting, but one thing makes me question the source:
Two problems with that.
1. It's wiki.
2. They could get there, but they couldn't get back. Think Doolittle's raid.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:37:19am |
Well, I have a [bleep]-load of work to do at the moment, so signing off for now.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:37:19am |
re: #987 DeafDog
It could be, but I have my doubts because this is such a public execution. If they thought he was a liability, it would have been quieter to promote him out of the position.
They might have done that, but Fitzgerald (who is not part of the machine, and is in fact hostile to it) moved on Blago first, leaving the machine no choice but to send out one of Chicago's new turbo-electric drive buses and throw the Gov under said hybrid bus.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:37:26am |
re: #1012 garycooper
Conclusion: Mice aren't as smart as they are depicted in cartoons.
Oh, hell, Pixie & Trixie, say it ain't so!
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:37:40am |
re: #959 Occasional Reader
First they came for the beavers, and I said nothing...
You can have my beaver when you can pry it from my cold fingers!
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:38:02am |
re: #1005 Honorary Yooper
Obama's been in full CYA mode since this hit about 8am CST yesterday morning. Too bad Axelrod screwed it up for him by mentioning they had been talking just a few days ago.
CYA with a compliant media.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:38:15am |
re: #1004 bosforus
Prayers for this man.
Man who lost family when jet hit house: I don't blame pilot
That man is truly good. May God receive his family into His mercy.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:38:34am |
re: #1015 MandyManners
Lotta work - Mom does that, btw, but now we have like eleventy million spiral notebooks (ya know, those little suckers)!
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:38:41am |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:39:19am |
re: #1016 realwest
Got any names for the Repub's? I'd pick 3 wood, but I like him waaay too much!
My best friend suggested Mike Ditka. If the Bears make the playoffs, that idea would hold additional promise.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:39:25am |
re: #969 MandyManners
I lived there when I was a kid and I remember my dad going on and on about the corruption. Is there any way to get rid of it or, is it in the DNA?
It's part of the system.
The vote fraud, the back room deal cutting, the graft. The attitude is they are entitled to sell their positions for money and that they can do anything they want to get their positions.
This is what happens when you have a one party system and a very compliant media.
You either become part of it or you get out. They will not tolerate an honest person in their midst for long.
For example, there are several key precincts in Chicago who are always very late reporting the votes every election, I mean, hours late.
That's cause when the polls close, they take the ballots to a certain restaurant in Chicago, hide out in the back room until the rest of the vote comes in, and if key races are close enough to make a difference they "find" enough votes to throw the election, then go turn the ballots in.
Been going on for years.
Nothings ever done to stop it , and if you try the call the cops on you for disturbing the peace.
I know that from personal experience.
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redstateredneck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:39:47am |
re: #1029 realwest
Lotta work - Mom does that, btw, but now we have like eleventy million spiral notebooks (ya know, those little suckers)!
My mother kept a little miniature 3-ring notebook in her purse. She called it her brain.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:39:59am |
re: #1021 FrogMarch
That'd be funny if it weren't so true.
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:40:07am |
re: #1026 Kenneth
You can have my beaver when you can pry it from my cold fingers!
If your fingers are that cold they probably wouldn't have to pry the beaver off!
;)
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Lincolntf Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:40:08am |
re: #973 realwest
I was kinda surprised that he's "the highest paid pitcher ever", according to ESPN. He's real good, but we've all seen better. The economics of baseball are beyond my understanding.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:40:10am |
re: #1001 Dark_Falcon
Jim Edgar served two terms as governor of my state and he's not a SOB. It is possible to hold statewide office in Illinois and be honest. And that is a possibility the GOP should be anxious to explore, as this scandal will improve our fortunes in this state if we play it right. If there is to be a special election, we need a good Senate candidate and we need one quickly.
Jesse White (Dem) has been an exceptional Secretary of State. It's the quality of the person that makes the difference.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:40:38am |
re: #1022 razorbacker
Two problems with that.
1. It's wiki.
2. They could get there, but they couldn't get back. Think Doolittle's raid.
One prototype was built; that's it (and I've read elsewhere about the "Amerika bomber" program, it's not just Wiki). So it's a distortion to say that "the Me-264 bomber was capable of bombing New York, but the Germans decided it wasn't worth the effort". At no time during the war did they have operational aircraft capable of doing so.
Now, to work...
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:41:38am |
re: #976 Honorary Yooper
Fitzgerald seems most interested in Senate Candidate #5.
Candidate #5 is going to be indicted.
Incidentally, Jesse Jackson Jr. has canceled all his personal appearances today.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:41:45am |
re: #1032 3 wood
It's part of the system.
The vote fraud, the back room deal cutting, the graft. The attitude is they are entitled to sell their positions for money and that they can do anything they want to get their positions.
This is what happens when you have a one party system and a very compliant media.
You either become part of it or you get out. They will not tolerate an honest person in their midst for long.
For example, there are several key precincts in Chicago who are always very late reporting the votes every election, I mean, hours late.
That's cause when the polls close, they take the ballots to a certain restaurant in Chicago, hide out in the back room until the rest of the vote comes in, and if key races are close enough to make a difference they "find" enough votes to throw the election, then go turn the ballots in.
Been going on for years.
Nothings ever done to stop it , and if you try the call the cops on you for disturbing the peace.
I know that from personal experience.
Why haven't the feds become involved?!
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:42:02am |
re: #1031 Dark_Falcon
"If the Bears make the playoffs, that idea would hold additional promise." ROFL!
But Ditka could be a good pick anyway. Still - ya got any others?
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:42:22am |
re: #1024 Dark_Falcon
They might have done that, but Fitzgerald (who is not part of the machine, and is in fact hostile to it) moved on Blago first, leaving the machine no choice but to send out one of Chicago's new turbo-electric drive buses and throw the Gov under said hybrid bus.
Right. My only question is whether or not Emmanuel was the source of the leak to Fitzgerald that provided the justification for a wire-tap. If the "Chicago machine" wanted Hot-rod out, I do not think Emmanuel would have gone this route. Hot-rod probably knows where lots of proverbial bodies are buried. Do they really want him talking with prosecuters?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:42:22am |
re: #1029 realwest
Lotta work - Mom does that, btw, but now we have like eleventy million spiral notebooks (ya know, those little suckers)!
I use two big ones with pockets.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:43:36am |
re: #1032 3 wood
"I know that from personal experience."
DO TELL! Please!
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:43:38am |
re: #1032 3 wood
It's part of the system.
The vote fraud, the back room deal cutting, the graft. The attitude is they are entitled to sell their positions for money and that they can do anything they want to get their positions.
This is what happens when you have a one party system and a very compliant media.
You either become part of it or you get out. They will not tolerate an honest person in their midst for long.
For example, there are several key precincts in Chicago who are always very late reporting the votes every election, I mean, hours late.
That's cause when the polls close, they take the ballots to a certain restaurant in Chicago, hide out in the back room until the rest of the vote comes in, and if key races are close enough to make a difference they "find" enough votes to throw the election, then go turn the ballots in.
Been going on for years.
Nothings ever done to stop it , and if you try the call the cops on you for disturbing the peace.
I know that from personal experience.
Well, I have few ideas on how to stop that, but I'd be banned for saying them.
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96RoadKing Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:43:41am |
re: #1040 MandyManners
Why haven't the feds become involved?!
US Senate seat would bring the Feds in automatically.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:43:47am |
re: #1039 3 wood
Candidate #5 is going to be indicted.
Incidentally, Jesse Jackson Jr. has canceled all his personal appearances today.
Cue the cries of "RACISM" which will somehow ooze their way over to Blagojevich.
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:44:07am |
realwest and redstate
So far the email I sent m hasn't been bounced back by the evil mailer demon so maybe it went through. I'll let ya know if she replies.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:44:12am |
re: #944 redstateredneck
I love those little packs of silica gel that are in shoe boxes and purses..."DO NOT EAT".
Well, damn. That looked tasty.
LOL! I have m's email address, I'll give it a go :-)
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notutopia Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:44:13am |
re: #321 WestTexas
West Texas.
Your brother has married someone who is much older than himself. I dare say this is d/t a need for maternal deficits that he associates in her that he was actually seeking to resolve emotional deficiencies inside himself by making the relationship permanent in marriage.
If you wish to intervene, be maternal and loving and honest. He must get some professional counselling for his emotional needs. If you have no experience in counselling, then just be honest and supportive. He obviously is emotionally confused, don't add to the confusion. Offer support. He will need lots of it from persons he trusts.
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UFO TOFU Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:44:42am |
re: #1030 aussiemagpie
Good morning Aussie, I hope your well! And warm; it's frezzing here in socal.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:44:49am |
re: #1039 3 wood
Candidate #5 is going to be indicted.
Incidentally, Jesse Jackson Jr. has canceled all his personal appearances today.
In many respects, being a resident of Will County, and wanting Peotone built, and having the airport controlled mostly by the County, I shed no tears if it is Jesse Jackson Jr.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:45:14am |
re: #973 realwest
I think we've got a guy who wins a lot of games and, maybe more importantly, throws a lot of quality innings. But NO ATHELETE is worth that much dough.
Brittany Spears makes 680,000 a month..And she doesn't have a fastball or curve..
/well she has curves but that's not the same.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:45:19am |
re: #1048 96RoadKing
US Senate seat would bring the Feds in automatically.
I was talking about the local elections.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:45:20am |
re: #1045 MandyManners
Que es "pockets"? Oh, do you mean loose-leaf things?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:45:24am |
re: #1040 MandyManners
Why haven't the feds become involved?!
They are. It's so big, it's overwhelming.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:45:30am |
re: #1037 midwestgak
Jesse White (Dem) has been an exceptional Secretary of State. It's the quality of the person that makes the difference.
Agreed. White is a liberal, but he ran his office honestly and well.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:45:33am |
re: #992 realwest
Yeah, but if that's true my friend, I can't see Blago going away without taking someone with him - and the Feds can't ignore some things, ya know?
I'm gonna start the popcorn!
Well, you might be right.
Either way it's going to be a good show.
Oh, by the way, Dick "the Turban" Durbin just said that he basically does not know who Blago is either.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:46:26am |
re: #940 WriterMom
I have a low-tech tip regarding e-mail addresses. Set up a gmail account, and export all of your contacts from Outlook to gmail. It automatically updates your contacts. That way, even if you switch computers you will always have your e-mail addresses, independent of whatever hard drive they are on. You can also load your contacts onto a flash drive and have that as a back-up.
Thanks so much for this tip !
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96RoadKing Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:46:48am |
re: #1048 96RoadKing
US Senate seat would bring the Feds in automatically.
Oops. Misread your original comment. I believe the Feds wouldn't normally be called in on a State issue unless the problem crossed State lines or had an effect across State lines. I'm sure a Lawyer Lizard will have a more concise opinion.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:47:19am |
re: #998 lifeofthemind
Feel bad about Fast Eddie going down.
I liked Fast Eddie.
Talked with him many times around City Hall back during the Council Wars days.
But he got caught.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:47:22am |
re: #1050 Texas Heathen
Thanks a lot - meanwhile I'll look through this puter and try to find out where they ended up (my e-mail addy's I mean)!
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:47:28am |
re: #1033 redstateredneck
My mother kept a little miniature 3-ring notebook in her purse. She called it her brain.
Hope her purse was never stolen. : )
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father_of_10 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:47:32am |
We just finished reading Harriet the Spy to our twin 6 year olds and the 4 year old, now the twins are carrying notebooks with them where ever they go and writing down what they see: Mom mad dnnr but I won eat brccclee.
It is really funny!
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father_of_10 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:48:19am |
re: #1055 HoosierHoops
Brittany Spears makes 680,000 a month..And she doesn't have a fastball or curve..
/well she has curves but that's not the same.
I think she has is a fastball too. I saw those pictures!
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Buck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:48:26am |
re: #1015 MandyManners
Spiral-bound notebook. With copies elsewhere.
The best part of the gmail solution is that it then becomes available anywhere there is a computer on the internet. Including mobile, and when traveling.
Hard to take paper with you everywhere you go.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:48:51am |
re: #1042 realwest
"If the Bears make the playoffs, that idea would hold additional promise." ROFL!
But Ditka could be a good pick anyway. Still - ya got any others?
Smack!
I'm still working out ideas. I'd like to run Mark Kirk, a GOP congressman who represents the North Shore. He's smart, and the party faithful regard him well. I've attended several events with him as a featured speaker, and I think he could make a good Senator.
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96RoadKing Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:48:54am |
re: #1063 Iron Fist
But with Obama as Pres, all the Feds will care about is that Blago reported the bribe money as income on his tax forms. Selling a Senate Seat is not that big a deal, but tax evasion is unpatriotic!
I wonder what Biden's seat is going for...?
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:49:17am |
re: #1006 DeafDog
What's your source?
Can't say, so believe it or don't.
I got connections in Chicago.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:50:06am |
re: #1056 MandyManners
Have to find some Civil Rights or other Fed law involvment for local elections - voter fraud would do it,I think.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:50:10am |
re: #1014 Honorary Yooper
They've been on Blago's tail for quite some time now, and managed to get the wiretap recently.
That's how they got the tap.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:50:12am |
re: #1057 realwest
Que es "pockets"? Oh, do you mean loose-leaf things?
No. Some spiral notebooks have pockets in the dividers.
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Gray Skies Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:50:14am |
Gosh, what a depressing week...had to put my beloved Golden Retriever down two days ago. I am so sad. Any tips on coping with pet loss?
Maybe Gov. Blajo feels pretty sad right now, but I feel sadder!
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SFGoth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:50:35am |
Don't know if anyone has raised this, but if Obama were to be indicted before January 20, 2009, Bush would pardon him for the soul of this country, or some gobbledygook compassionate conservacrap.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:50:53am |
re: #1058 Honorary Yooper
They are. It's so big, it's overwhelming.
Are they investigating the local elections to which 3Wood was refering?
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:50:54am |
redstate,
I emailed m's email addy to you. Provided the email addy I had for you is still good. :)
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96RoadKing Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:51:21am |
re: #1075 realwest
Have to find some Civil Rights or other Fed law involvment for local elections - voter fraud would do it,I think.
Good points. Voter fraud might be difficult to prove in Chicago (I know my uncle's been dead for 25 years, but he really did vote for Obama...Honest!)
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:51:29am |
re: #1073 realwest
Yeah, but she's no athelete!
All depends on what ring she's competing in...sometimes I hear it's a three ring circus...now that takes stamina.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:51:32am |
re: #1060 3 wood
So has his nicname now been officially changed to "Dick the dick" Turban?!
Didn't know the govenor of his own state? ROTFLMAO!
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:51:32am |
re: #1016 realwest
Got any names for the Repub's? I'd pick 3 wood, but I like him waaay too much!
I have the same view of elected office that General Sherman had.
If nominated I will not run.
If elected I will not serve.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:51:42am |
re: #1070 Buck
The best part of the gmail solution is that it then becomes available anywhere there is a computer on the internet. Including mobile, and when traveling.
Hard to take paper with you everywhere you go.
I'm talking about a perment record.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:51:46am |
Saw this up in the spinoff links from Iowahawk. Thought it was damn funny.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:52:21am |
re: #1075 realwest
Have to find some Civil Rights or other Fed law involvment for local elections - voter fraud would do it,I think.
I would hope to shout!
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Peacekeeper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:52:25am |
Having used the Chicago machine himself, is it possible that Obama will destroy it now? These men had dirt on him and the ability to use it. He frees himself by ruining them. Anything they say now can be dismissed as desperate raving.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:52:51am |
re: #1062 96RoadKing
Oops. Misread your original comment. I believe the Feds wouldn't normally be called in on a State issue unless the problem crossed State lines or had an effect across State lines. I'm sure a Lawyer Lizard will have a more concise opinion.
It also has to do with appearances. It may appear a Senator is motivated by his/her own self interest. The Feds involvement removes that.
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:53:08am |
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:53:19am |
re: #1041 midwestgak
LOL
Ever hear of a ghost pill? You would not believe some of the calls they generated.
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mean Gene Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:53:45am |
Our neighbor was sick this morning but because it was ''call in gay'' day off from work today he went in anyway.
I have to wonder if this will even put a ''ripple in the force'' of the US economy.
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OldLineTexan Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:54:06am |
re: #1038 Occasional Reader
One prototype was built; that's it (and I've read elsewhere about the "Amerika bomber" program, it's not just Wiki). So it's a distortion to say that "the Me-264 bomber was capable of bombing New York, but the Germans decided it wasn't worth the effort". At no time during the war did they have operational aircraft capable of doing so.
Now, to work...
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:54:06am |
re: #1080 MandyManners
Are they investigating the local elections to which 3Wood was refering?
Again, there's too much fraud that goes on, and too few agents, even though Chicago has more FBI agents than any other city in the US. It's that ingrained, that purvasive.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:54:10am |
re: #1078 Gray Skies
Sorry for your loss. But the best thing you can do, NOW, is go ahead and grieve. It's normal and natural.
When you are ready for another dog you'll know it.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:55:00am |
re: #1053 UFO TOFU
Good morning Aussie, I hope your well! And warm; it's frezzing here in socal.
Yes, all's well here at Chez Aussiemagpie, and it's summer here although it's been raining
At least my new tomato plants are lovely and green - my very first food I've tried growing - they were given to me by one of our elderly patients as a Christmas present:-)
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:55:18am |
re: #1040 MandyManners
Why haven't the feds become involved?!
You got to have people willing to testify.
They were investigating Blago for years but not going very far with it cause no one would talk.
Then they got the wire tap and got Blago running his yap.
That is what broke this.
Blago did not do anything new that he had not done for years, he just did not think they had tapped his home phone.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:55:37am |
re: #1078 Gray Skies
Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.
When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge.
There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together.
There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.
All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by.
The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.
They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.
You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.
Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together...
Anon.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:55:56am |
re: #1084 jorline
Man, you ain't kidding!
Oh, wait, you meant she needed the stamina.
Sorry!
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:56:25am |
re: #1095 mean Gene
we have 2 known gays working in my company. They are both here today. I guess making money trumps making political statement.
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Buck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:56:26am |
re: #1055 HoosierHoops
Brittany Spears makes 680,000 a month..And she doesn't have a fastball or curve..
/well she has curves but that's not the same.
Knowing what she had to give up to get it, I am not sure it is worth it.
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jcm Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:57:09am |
Morning...
I heard a bump in the night... was that Blago going under the bus?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:57:31am |
re: #1100 3 wood
You got to have people willing to testify.
They were investigating Blago for years but not going very far with it cause no one would talk.
Then they got the wire tap and got Blago running his yap.
That is what broke this.
Blago did not do anything new that he had not done for years, he just did not think they had tapped his home phone.
Yet, the idiot thought that there were bugs, and still went ahead and did his stunts anyway. That's what's called Chutzpah with a capital "C".
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:57:36am |
re: #1097 Honorary Yooper
Again, there's too much fraud that goes on, and too few agents, even though Chicago has more FBI agents than any other city in the US. It's that ingrained, that purvasive.
Good gravy! More than D.C.?
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:57:44am |
re: #1094 Hard Right
Ever hear of a ghost pill? You would not believe some of the calls they generated.
No I haven't. Please share.
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father_of_10 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:58:08am |
re: #1095 mean Gene
Our neighbor was sick this morning but because it was ''call in gay'' day off from work today he went in anyway.
I have to wonder if this will even put a ''ripple in the force'' of the US economy.
Only in San Francisco. But even there, capitalism will trump gayness in most of the industries.
A few years ago when the Hispanics tried the Day without a Mexican, all of my Mexican employees showed up for work. Especially after I told them it would be an unexcused absence and they could lose their jobs. One even showed up so sick I sent her home.
Money talks and BS walks every time.
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gregg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:58:20am |
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:58:21am |
re: #1080 MandyManners
Are they investigating the local elections to which 3Wood was refering?
Not that I know of.
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:58:28am |
re: #1078 Gray Skies
Gosh, what a depressing week...had to put my beloved Golden Retriever down two days ago. I am so sad. Any tips on coping with pet loss?
Maybe Gov. Blajo feels pretty sad right now, but I feel sadder!
I can sympathize - been there.
The only suggestion I can offer is to wait a few weeks for your head to clear and then go down to your local shelter, look for a puppy, and give him or her the best home you can...
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:58:53am |
re: #1102 Dustyvet
"The very concept of Christmas contradicts and conflicts with the foundation of Islam.
You got that right!
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:58:59am |
re: #1100 3 wood
I get all that, but how did the Feds get enough evidence to get a judge to authorize a wiretap?
Just a call by Emmanuel wouldn't be enought for a wiretap, I wouldn't think.
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Buck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:59:27am |
re: #1078 Gray Skies
Gosh, what a depressing week...had to put my beloved Golden Retriever down two days ago. I am so sad. Any tips on coping with pet loss?
Maybe Gov. Blajo feels pretty sad right now, but I feel sadder!
It wont help, but feeling sad is natural, human, and is part of coping.
Grieving is allowed. It has been only two days. No reason to rush it.
Let it in, don't fight the feelings of loss. It will not pass exactly, but you will make friends with it, and it will become part of who you are.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:59:40am |
re: #1100 3 wood
You got to have people willing to testify.
They were investigating Blago for years but not going very far with it cause no one would talk.
Then they got the wire tap and got Blago running his yap.
That is what broke this.
Blago did not do anything new that he had not done for years, he just did not think they had tapped his home phone.
I'm remined of Gary Hart.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 7:59:46am |
re: #1091 taxfreekiller
Of note:
Long 15 paragraph story, apox 1,000 word, a full bore kidnapping, Texas Rangers, FBI, County Sheriff all in the deal. Well know family that sells family named Hot Dogs at the Texas State Fair and other places, lots of money.
These perps take the daughter who lives alone next door to the parents in the country, call in for $100,000.00, get caught.
The Dallas Morning news aka MSM liberal hack liars and frauds, can not use the words "illegal Mexican immigrants" .
"Alleged Ringleader Knew Victim's Family" Wed. Dec. 10, 20081. alleged ring leader
2. The man
3. the three suspects
4. He knows the family
5.Irving resident Placido Porras
6. Justin resident Candelario Romero
7. A man-- Mr. Chavez (the one who knew the family)
8. way down in article "the kidnappers"
9. the suspects
10. they arrested the driver
11. kidnapping ended when Mr Chavez led police to the pickup where
Mr. Porras and Mr. Romero were parked with the victim.
12. the two men
13. Mr. Chavez masterminded the kidnapping
14. the other suspects[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]
under "Latest" stories
Metro Section: by Blanca CantuTHE MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL KIDNAPPING GANGS ARE WAY INSIDE NOW
The MSM lies and covers it up, the MSM is getting people killed every day by their lies, fraud and cover ups.
The MSM doesn't care if ordinary mortals die, so long as they get the amnesty policy they want. In this, they are like Bill Ayers (and like me sometimes, if I am to be honest). In both cases it's "Let my will be done, no matter what the cost to others!" It's a bad way to think, and I try overcome it, though I am not always successful.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:00:10am |
re: #1108 Honorary Yooper
Yet, the idiot thought that there were bugs, and still went ahead and did his stunts anyway. That's what's called Chutzpah with a capital "C".
No, that politician, with a capital "P." It's very simple.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:00:23am |
re: #1104 Texas Heathen
Or maybe they just have a good, old fashioned work ethic.
I've got a few old friends in NYC who said that they're going to work today too.
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UFO TOFU Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:00:42am |
re: #1111 father_of_10
A few years ago when the Hispanics tried the Day without a Mexican, all of my Mexican employees showed up for work.
A significant number of my employees are Hispanic. When I asked them about showing up for work that day, most of them just rolled their eyes.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:00:46am |
re: #1116 realwest
I get all that, but how did the Feds get enough evidence to get a judge to authorize a wiretap?
Just a call by Emmanuel wouldn't be enought for a wiretap, I wouldn't think.
Soliciiting a bribe for a federal appointment?
You bet that was enough.
Now, I really got to go.
later.
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:01:11am |
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bosforus Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:01:11am |
re: #1121 Dark_Falcon
The MSM doesn't care if ordinary mortals die, so long as they get the amnesty policy they want. In this, they are like Bill Ayers (and like me sometimes, if I am to be honest). In both cases it's "Let my will be done, no matter what the cost to others!" It's a bad way to think, and I try overcome it, though I am not always successful.
Don't feel too bad, at least you're not in charge of and failing miserably at disseminating information to millions of people.
..or are you?
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notutopia Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:01:28am |
re: #1088 Honorary Yooper
There are 7 bidders..I wish I could open the bidders link...
Too funny!
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Buck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:01:53am |
re: #1120 MandyManners
I'm remined of Gary Hart.
Did Gary Hart do more than let a pretty girl sit on his lap?
I don't remember violations quite this gross.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:02:03am |
re: #1074 3 wood
I believe that it's a rumor. It's just seems like too risky of a move on Emmanuel's part. The scandal could spread too easily, causing unintended consequences. Also, it seems to me that - if it were true - Obama would have made a bigger deal about the level of cooperation his office was having with Fitz.
On the other hand, if Emmanuel is truely as ruthless as they say and he knows that both he and Obama are insulated, then maybe he figures this adds to his credibility.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:02:46am |
re: #1129 Buck
Did Gary Hart do more than let a pretty girl sit on his lap?
I don't remember violations quite this gross.
They both dared their opponents/pursuers to follow them/tap them.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:03:14am |
re: #1117 Iron Fist
Heh.
Problem is, it's not just Democrats in Illinois. John Kass refers to it as the "Illinois Combine", a combination of Democrats and Republicans out for their own, helping each other. Fast Eddie Vordolyak is the epitome of the Combine, IMHO. He started as a Democrat, switch to being a Republican, but maintained his Machine contacts the whole time. George Ryan is another one, as is Richard Daley. It's more like a mafia than political parties.
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Lincolntf Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:03:53am |
re: #1130 DeafDog
Hubris makes people do things that seem self-destructive to normal people. Rahm strikes me as a walking ball of hubris.
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:04:09am |
Regarding the repulsive Auto bailout--
Kaus says:
"Why shouldn’t the bailout deal include an explicit reopening of labor contracts? “If the new ‘auto czar’ can order the companies to restructure, tell them to build smaller cars and veto any expenditure over $25 million, shouldn’t he or she be able to require the UAW to give up the precious work rules that have rendered the domestically-owned industry inflexible and inefficient for decades? . . . If the taxpayers are going to foot the bill, then the goal has to be a successful industry in the long run–not a Congressional fix designed to protect the UAW from what it would face in a normal bankruptcy. That means rewritten contracts. If the UAW members didn’t want that, they shouldn’t have let their firms go broke.”
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:04:20am |
re: #1133 Honorary Yooper
Heh.
Problem is, it's not just Democrats in Illinois. John Kass refers to it as the "Illinois Combine", a combination of Democrats and Republicans out for their own, helping each other. Fast Eddie Vordolyak is the epitome of the Combine, IMHO. He started as a Democrat, switch to being a Republican, but maintained his Machine contacts the whole time. George Ryan is another one, as is Richard Daley. It's more like a mafia than political parties.
Breakdown of the two-party system.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:04:58am |
re: #1131 realwest
More than in NYC?! Or D.C.?
More than NYC, maybe on-par with DC. NYC just does not have the political mafia that Chicago does.
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Gray Skies Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:05:02am |
Thank you for your kind advice. Some have already suggested a new puppy (Christmas and all), but I know this is not the time. And I know the grieving process well this year - lost my mother, my father and a brother in the same three week period earlier this year. All unrelated deaths, and I loved them all dearly. But somehow it seems that the unexpected loss of our dog is the worse.
Thank you again - it helps to know that others care.
re: #1098 realwest
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aussiemagpie Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:05:05am |
re: #1078 Gray Skies
Gosh, what a depressing week...had to put my beloved Golden Retriever down two days ago. I am so sad. Any tips on coping with pet loss?
Maybe Gov. Blajo feels pretty sad right now, but I feel sadder!
So sorry to hear about losing your dog - when your initial grief eases, give another dog a good home - yours :-)
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:06:11am |
re: #1134 Lincolntf
Hubris makes people do things that seem self-destructive to normal people. Rahm strikes me as a walking ball of hubris.
Rahm is a full of hubris, yes, as is Obama. There's a lot of that going around in Illinois, in the political system.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:06:16am |
re: #1139 Honorary Yooper
Huh. But NYC has more Mafia mafia than does Chicago (if you discount the Chicago Politicians!).
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:08:30am |
re: #1140 Gray Skies
Good Lord your mother, father and a brother in the same three week period earlier this year? I feel SO terrible for you I can't even begin to express it.
Most sincere condolences and sympathies to you.
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:08:38am |
re: #1110 midwestgak
No I haven't. Please share.
Well, it's a unique type of pill that carries medicine. The shell is plastic or whatever and the medication is carried inside. When it goes thru the body the medication is released and the shell passes thru without dissolving and "excreted" in the waste.
Some people don't understand that.
I had someone call asking for a pill ID. They said they had to wait for the water to settle. ? You see, they were calling me from their bathroom...staring into their toilet...afraid their medication wasn't working...
One person even fished it out, boiled it, and took it again.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:08:41am |
re: #1140 Gray Skies
But somehow it seems that the unexpected loss of our dog is the worse.
Thank you again - it helps to know that others care.
Well, your pet was 100% dependent on you. You cared for him everyday, 24/7. Suddenly, nothing. That is hard to take. {Gray Skies}
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:08:45am |
re: #1127 bosforus
Don't feel too bad, at least you're not in charge of and failing miserably at disseminating information to millions of people.
..or are you?
No, I'm not. But I could do people great damage if I allowed such ideas any latitude. I am ever vigilant in my life to ensure that high standards of honesty are met. That is how I prevent my sometimes bad beliefs from harming others. I am a flawed man, but unlike Bill Ayers and many reporters, I know that I sin and I work to purge myself of sinful thoughts while ensuring those thought do not translate into actions.
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Gray Skies Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:09:18am |
Thank you, thank you - this is so beautiful!
re: #1101 MandyManners
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:09:23am |
One quick one:
Just heard on WLS radio out of Chicago, Blago had met with Jesse Jackson Jr. for 90 minutes Monday.
According to the Federal complaint, Candidate 5 had just agreed to play ball to get the appointment before the Fed's made their arrest.
Draw your own conclusions.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:09:38am |
re: #1143 realwest
Huh. But NYC has more Mafia mafia than does Chicago (if you discount the Chicago Politicians!).
Only due to size. Per capita, Chicago has stronger and bigger gangs, and they cooperate with the political system.
As I've said before: The Outfit is the Machine is the Outfit is the Machine.
Then you have aldermen like Troutman who are sleeping with members of the street gangs.
At least your mafia believes in competition, with there being 5 families. Ours got rid of the competition in the 20s, and then took over the political establishment.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:09:43am |
re: #1134 Lincolntf
Hubris makes people do things that seem self-destructive to normal people. Rahm strikes me as a walking ball of hubris.
GAZE
(until you apologize for your actions)
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:10:06am |
re: #1146 Hard Right
One person even fished it out, boiled it, and took it again.
um, not so sure I believe that one.
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notutopia Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:10:23am |
re: #1078 Gray Skies
For me, It is like losing a family member. You will Grieve the loss for a long while. Everytime you reach for him/her, think fondly of the interaction. Time will lessen the pain you feel today.
I have heart-pull jags still when I fondly think about and miss dearly my Chuck-E-Bear, a springer spaniel from 25 years ago. He would smile at me and I swear he looked like Charlton Heston when he did.
Hope you can find some quiet place to grieve and heal.
HUGS Gray skies!
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:11:11am |
Obama is a pathological liar,
... I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening." -BHO
"Obama spoke with govenor Blagojevitch" - David Axelrod
"I mispoke myself" -David Axelrod
Obama was meet wirg Governor Blagojevich on Wednesday November 5, 2008 to discuss his senate seat:
Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.
That's one of Obama's first priorities today. He's meeting with Governor Rod Blagojevich this afternoon in Chicago to discuss it.
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Fluffy Bunny Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:11:30am |
re: #1078 Gray Skies
I am so sorry to hear of your loss. We lost both of our Newfoundlands in the past year, Tahoe just this past Friday. One thing that has helped us is to not only grieve but to remember the many funny, sweet and even idiotic things the pups did during their lives. Those moments defined our time with them.
{I wish you peace and comfort.}
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:11:47am |
re: #1152 Honorary Yooper
Only due to size. Per capita, Chicago has stronger and bigger gangs, and they cooperate with the political system.
As I've said before: The Outfit is the Machine is the Outfit is the Machine.
Then you have aldermen like Troutman who are sleeping with members of the street gangs.
At least your mafia believes in competition, with there being 5 families. Ours got rid of the competition in the 20s, and then took over the political establishment.
Yeah, I know about that. I used to live near some of the places made infamous by the Northside - Outfit gang wars of the 20's.
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Lincolntf Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:12:18am |
re: #1151 3 wood
If the IL Legislature somehow mandates a special election (which I believe may be in the works), rather than allowing Blago to appoint someone, is there ANY chance that a Repub. would win the seat?
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:12:42am |
re: #1156 Kenneth
Wonder if the Feds have anything on tape - if not Obama, then Axelrod?
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Lincolntf Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:12:58am |
re: #1153 Dark_Falcon
I have no idea what GAZE means, so carry on your vigil.
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Ford_Prefect Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:13:10am |
re: #1159 Lincolntf
If the IL Legislature somehow mandates a special election (which I believe may be in the works), rather than allowing Blago to appoint someone, is there ANY chance that a Repub. would win the seat?
Only if he can pay off enough people.
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:13:23am |
re: #1154 midwestgak
One person even fished it out, boiled it, and took it again.
um, not so sure I believe that one.
I sat two spaces from the tech that took the call at the time she took it. The pharmacist that was called in to help, turned around afterwards and told a pharmacist I was talking with. You see, the person was very concerned because the medication was expensive and wanted to make sure they hadn't wasted their money. We did deal with a lot of elderly patients and some weren't all there.
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Buck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:13:33am |
re: #1151 3 wood
One quick one:
Just heard on WLS radio out of Chicago, Blago had met with Jesse Jackson Jr. for 90 minutes Monday.
According to the Federal complaint, Candidate 5 had just agreed to play ball to get the appointment before the Fed's made their arrest.
Draw your own conclusions.
It is not fair to speculate like this, but if it is Jesse Jackson then it couldn't happen to a nice guy. If they have him on tape (and not a staffer) it will be the biggest thing for 2008!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:13:39am |
re: #1151 3 wood
One quick one:
Just heard on WLS radio out of Chicago, Blago had met with Jesse Jackson Jr. for 90 minutes Monday.
According to the Federal complaint, Candidate 5 had just agreed to play ball to get the appointment before the Fed's made their arrest.
Draw your own conclusions.
It's coming: RACISM!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:14:22am |
re: #1150 Gray Skies
You're welcome! Do you need to take a day or two off?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:14:43am |
re: #1144 Iron Fist
It is bipartisan, then? The two parties may not be able to come together on little things like winning the War, but at least they can get together on important things like incumbant protection.
(Pull out and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
Yes, it is very bipartisan. They look out for each other, and even make it look like there is competition between the two. For example, a weak Republican will be put up at the request of a Democratic alderman just to make it look more legit during the election.
One of the items listed in the Complaint is the hospital board. Now, there's a certain suburb that is run by a Republican mayor. The hospital and he played ball with the Democrat Blagojevich. They got their hospital. Another suburb and hospital did not, and did not get their hospital. Both 'burbs are Republican.
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Gray Skies Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:15:03am |
Yes, and each a case where we had to make the decision to discontinue life support. The funeral home even had a tough time dealing with it.
I am a person of faith, and if I can get through all of that, I know I can get through the loss of my pet. She was a great source of comfort during the aftermath of the other losses. I am lucky I was able to thank her, before she passed, for all of the comfort she gave me.
To all of you other lizards, I don't want to put a damper on your day with all of this grief and loss stuff. Just sharing with all of you has helped. I feel much better. Thank you all again for your comforting words.
re: #1145 realwest
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:15:42am |
re: #1165 MandyManners
Racism? IF they have him on tape - he's as done for as Jefferson and his "cold cash"!
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:16:21am |
re: #1078 Gray Skies
We had to put down our beautiful yellow lab just over a year ago and I can honestly say that it was just as painful as losing a member of the immediate family. We still think of her almost every day, even after we got a new lab puppy this past Spring.
For what it's worth I can tell you that with the passage of time we remember more of the wonderful times we enjoyed and less of the bad end times.
The other thing I can share is that we have come to fully accept that putting her down was an act of kindness and our tremendous guilt feelings have pretty much faded away.
Best wishes.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:16:36am |
re: #1159 Lincolntf
I think yes.
Nothing like a scandal to push an election to the other party. Look what happened in Lousiand with that Jeffries guy.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:17:24am |
re: #1170 Gray Skies
Hey - my nic's in blue if you ever need someone to
share with, if you think it'd help!
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:18:03am |
re: #1174 realwest
PS - I'm serious with that offer - if you need someone to "chat with" don't hesitate.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:18:17am |
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:18:51am |
re: #1171 realwest
Racism? IF they have him on tape - he's as done for as Jefferson and his "cold cash"!
Remember, the greatest race-baiter of all time, Marion Barry, turned his crack smoking scene into a race ritual. I can definitly see race becoming part of this scandal, too.
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notutopia Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:19:44am |
Well, off to defend the screaming chickens and quinea fowl in the field from the circling chicken hawks! Damned Hawks!
Have a great day Lizards!
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:19:48am |
re: #1176 MandyManners
Really? About what? (I always seem to miss so much stuff! Gotta stop taking meds or something so I don't sleep so much during the day!).
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:20:02am |
re: #1143 realwest
Huh. But NYC has more Mafia mafia than does Chicago (if you discount the Chicago Politicians!).
NYC had a more diversified less blue collar economy than Chicago. NY was more mobbed up before the industrial base of mob influenced unions (Longshoremen, Teamsters) went away. The collapse of the government in the 70's led to outside control that weakened the Democratic party machine. The current efforts of government to drive out the financial services industry and pump up health care will turn NYC into a more corrupt more unionized place.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:20:19am |
re: #1176 MandyManners
He lied like a dog last night in the Plumber thread.
What did he do, or lie about? I did not read, nor participate in the thread.
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:20:32am |
re: #1160 realwest
Hell, Fox News has a report on Obama meeting with Blago on November 5th. Blago gave a "f*ckin' noos-confruns" after the meeting. So it is now very clear Obama has been caught out in a very obviopus and stupid lie. Get ready for the soft-shoe tap dance as the One wriggles out of it. Maybe it will go something like this,
"I did not have a meeting with that man. Mr. Blagojevich"
That sort of thing has been known to work in the past. For a while.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:20:56am |
re: #1177 DeafDog
Yeah, but Marion Barry was mayor of a predominently Black city and those voters believed he was set up to light up that crack pipe!
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:21:15am |
Well, got things to do, one of which involves electricity.
So if Northwest Arkansas goes unexpectedly dark, sorry about that.
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Buck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:21:21am |
re: #1171 realwest
Racism? IF they have him on tape - he's as done for as Jefferson and his "cold cash"!
You have to hope. However we have seen the "you don't understand the Black experience" excuse. The Rev Wright basks in it, and what really happened to Jackson after the recent "Reverend's gone wild" caught on tape bashing of Obama?
But I agree, if it is HIS voice on the tape, and he is clearly making a deal for a senate seat he does not deserve... He is toast.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:21:30am |
re: #1177 DeafDog
Remember, the greatest race-baiter of all time, Marion Barry, turned his crack smoking scene into a race ritual. I can definitly see race becoming part of this scandal, too.
I called it yesterday.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:21:49am |
re: #1159 Lincolntf
Up early and getting in all that career in Natural History? Or, are you tooting a new expertise today?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:22:13am |
re: #1179 realwest
Really? About what? (I always seem to miss so much stuff! Gotta stop taking meds or something so I don't sleep so much during the day!).
Evolution v. creationism. It's in the previous thread. Even Charles chimed in.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:22:21am |
re: #1178 notutopia
Well, off to defend the screaming chickens and quinea fowl in the field from the circling chicken hawks! Damned Hawks!
Have a great day Lizards!
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:22:51am |
re: #1176 MandyManners
He lied like a dog last night in the Plumber thread.
That, and the fact that he insulted Thanos when Thanos called him on some those lies and misstatements on the evolution of whales.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:22:53am |
re: #1181 Honorary Yooper
What did he do, or lie about? I did not read, nor participate in the thread.
See No. 1188.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:23:01am |
re: #1182 Kenneth
WOW! But I'll bet that ONLY Fox has anything about it.
Course it could just have been a "congratulations" type call too.
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Fluffy Bunny Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:23:05am |
So, does Blago invoke the Sacred Oath of Omerta or sing like a canary?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:23:46am |
re: #1187 Walter L. Newton
Up early and getting in all that career in Natural History? Or, are you tooting a new expertise today?
HA!
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Lincolntf Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:23:54am |
re: #1176 MandyManners
You're delusional. Do you see Creationists lurking behind every bush when you go out for a walk?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:24:26am |
re: #1179 realwest
Really? About what? (I always seem to miss so much stuff! Gotta stop taking meds or something so I don't sleep so much during the day!).
He lied. Last night he said he made a living teaching evolution. Then he said he had a career in Natural History (what ever that means). Then he implied he would like to make a living in Natural History, and then he said he's into engineering, and then we find out he does flat work in constructions, hands on.
He's got more stories than Charles Dickens. We call that LYING.
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hermit Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:24:54am |
re: #1170 Gray Skies
As prayer is my specialty, I will offer that for you.
Take the comfort where it is offered, you don't dampen a day here by sharing your grief. Look at the outpouring of care.
Can somebody make sure this gets to goddessoftheclassroom? she should have this on the LGF prayer list...?
Peace / Shalom
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:25:13am |
re: #1190 Dark_Falcon
That, and the fact that he insulted Thanos when Thanos called him on some those lies and misstatements on the evolution of whales.
Heck, he insulted all of us not just by word but by method.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:26:09am |
re: #1196 Lincolntf
You're delusional. Do you see Creationists lurking behind every bush when you go out for a walk?
Smack!
You get criticized for insults and untruths, and your answer is more insults!
GAZE
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:26:10am |
re: #1183 realwest
I doubt Jackson would go down without a fight.
Jackson junior represents a black district, and don't forget who his father is. Race will come into play.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:26:24am |
re: #1196 Lincolntf
Go piss up a rope, asshole. Your lies are there for all to see, as is your pathetic tap-dancing.
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Gray Skies Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:27:02am |
I am sorry to hear of your loss and the agony of the decision you had to make. I know that good memories will eventually surface. And, yes, we are definitely dealing with guilt over making the decision to euthanize, my husband more so than me. Time will put everything into perspective. Just want to get from here to there right now! But it doesn't work that way, does it?
Thanks again...
re: #1172 Spare O'Lake
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:27:03am |
re: #1197 Walter L. Newton
Ah, good morning to you, Walter! Thanks for the summary as I'm about to have to take more meds and stop playing out here!
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Texas Heathen Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:28:34am |
I have work to do now. See all ya'all later.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:28:58am |
re: #1201 DeafDog
Oh I'm sure race will come into play, but it did with Jefferson down in Louisiana too. If the Feds have Jackson Jr. ON TAPE - race won't help a lot - he ain't gonna be appointed US Senator.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:30:15am |
re: #1205 Texas Heathen
WHOA! If y'all hear from M can you let us know - or at least e-mail me? Please?
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:30:16am |
Good morning all Lizards. I hope to have the time today to spend reading LGF...I get busy a lot, lately.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:31:14am |
re: #1210 Golem Akbar
Good morning Golem! Busy is good in these economic times!
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:33:03am |
re: #1211 realwest
Good morning Golem! Busy is good in these economic times!
Yes, no complaints, here. How're you RW?
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:33:10am |
Sources Say Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. is 'Senate Candidate #5'
Chicago Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) is the anonymous "Senate Candidate #5" whose emissaries Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich reportedly claimed offered up to a million dollars to name him to the U.S. Senate, federal law enforcement sources tell ABC News.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:33:30am |
re: #1207 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - bipartisan isn't a bad word or a bad idea - if it keeps the idealogues at bay. The problem we have is that bi-partisanship recently has sorta opened the door for the extreme Left to come forward at our expense.
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Lincolntf Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:33:49am |
re: #1173 DeafDog
Well, that's good. Between Chambliss, Coleman (can we confirm that one yet?) and now Obama's replacement we can chip away at the possibility of the Dems getting their dream majority in the Senate. Every seat counts.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:33:58am |
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:34:20am |
re: #1188 MandyManners
Evolution v. creationism. It's in the previous thread. Even Charles chimed in.
Yea. I read that also..Overall it was a fun thread.
How the heck are you today Mandy?
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Lincolntf Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:34:54am |
re: #1197 Walter L. Newton
Wrong, wrong and wrong. But go ahead and do your little GAZEY thing 'til the cows come home.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:35:18am |
re: #1196 Lincolntf
You're delusional. Do you see Creationists lurking behind every bush when you go out for a walk?
Did someone fart?
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Fluffy Bunny Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:35:18am |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:35:26am |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:35:30am |
re: #1196 Lincolntf
You're delusional. Do you see Creationists lurking behind every bush when you go out for a walk?
Here is Lincolntf's post about his career from the Joe the Plumber thread last night.
"Yes, I know. If one doesn't agree in exactly the right way, to the exact right degree, they are a "hardcore Creationist". How on earth does a "Creationist" make a living in Natural History? I must be living in the Twilight Zone."
So here he states that he couldn't be a hardcore creationist since he makes a living in Natural History
"My wife would say that I'm "trying to make a living" in Natural History, and she'd be mostly right. My "real" career is Construction Mgmt. Either way, I don't lie in my posts or in my real life. I find it morally repugnant and ultimately counter-productive."
Now hie changes his story. He blames his "lack" of a natural history career on his wife's perception of his career as an construction manager. But, he doesn't lie.
Lincolntf's, you are an outright lier, plain and simple, proven by your own words, not mine.
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SurferDoc Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:36:24am |
Good morning, Lizards! It is a brisk 28 degrees here in the Mojave this AM. It is shorts weather inside, though. ;-)
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:36:25am |
re: #1216 Lincolntf
Well, that's good. Between Chambliss, Coleman (can we confirm that one yet?) and now Obama's replacement we can chip away at the possibility of the Dems getting their dream majority in the Senate. Every seat counts.
It opens the door for a Republican resurgance in 2010. Repubs now to think seriously about how they want to do this.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:36:38am |
re: #1222 Fluffy Bunny
Anyone need more popcorn? This just gets better and better!
I do. And extra butter. : )
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wii42 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:36:43am |
re: #1187 Walter L. Newton
apropos of not much: you had a post yesterday where you said "... ends up down ..." and I thought if you'd just added 'first', e.g. "... first ends up down ...", which woulda parsed, it woulda been even more interesting semantically..
Here's a link you've maybe seen - evolution or intelligent design?:
[Link: rogeralsing.com...]
/can't stick around...
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Ben Hur Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:36:44am |
Anybody else think that Jesse Jackson and his son will come up during the Blago trial?
Apparently there were at least 5 "candidates" who were considering paying up for the seat.
"Candidate 5" was willing to drop $500,000 in campaign contributions.
I recall Jesse's son coming up as a possible replacement.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:36:59am |
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jcm Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:37:00am |
re: #1190 Dark_Falcon
That, and the fact that he insulted Thanos when Thanos called him on some those lies and misstatements on the evolution of whales.
Jeeze, everyone knows you can't stack whales... I keep telling you all it's Turtles! Turtles all the way down, but does anyone believe me?
Nooo!
Whales! What is this world coming to...
sheesh!
///
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:37:09am |
re: #1217 midwestgak
That's pretty damning. Think it will stick?
Yep.
Look's like Jesse Jackson Sr. never taught his son the most important lesson to learn when growing up in Chicago, don't get caught.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:37:29am |
re: #1220 Lincolntf
Wrong, wrong and wrong. But go ahead and do your little GAZEY thing 'til the cows come home.
You can stomp your foot all you want, but see my comment re: #1224 Walter L. Newton on this thread. I clipped and pasted all your references to your natural history career from last nights Joe the plumber thread.
Any Lizard here can check for themselves.
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:37:34am |
re: #1203 Gray Skies
My sincerest sympathies for the loss of your family members. I do not know what (if any) spiritual tradition you may embrace but please remember that for those who have passed on "life is changed, not ended"- and so in time will your relationship with them change, for it will never end.
And as for your Best Friend what you saw in him that brought joy to your heart was nothing less than the Glory of G*d which was crystallized in that one warm, funny, furry piece of The Creation. That Glory surrounds you still in the entirety of G*d's Creation. Try to take comfort in that, and in the knowledge that since G*d's Glory is eternal you will surely see the part that is your Friend again one day.
Peace.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:37:46am |
re: #1213 3 wood
Love this line from your link: "Jackson Jr. said he agreed to talk with federal investigators "as quickly as possible" after he consults with a lawyer. [emphasis added, realwest].
Well hell, isn't that what all innocent people do, consult with a lawyer before even meeting with the invesigators?!
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UFO TOFU Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:37:46am |
Hey Golem, aren't you in socal? A statewide business boom is on it's way!
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Ben Hur Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:37:56am |
re: #1213 3 wood
Holy sh*t.
I swear I hadn't seen that report or even scrolled up before I made my post!
My gut is good.
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Lincolntf Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:38:21am |
re: #1224 Walter L. Newton
The word is "liar", Wally. And I'm not "lieing" about anything. I wish that my "real" career was in Natural History, but I haven't quite made the jump yet. I will someday make my entire living in Natural History.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:38:22am |
re: #1219 HoosierHoops
I'm finer than a frog's hair split three ways. How're you?
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jcm Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:39:00am |
Somali piracy backed by international network
Ahmed Dahir Suleyman is cagey as he talks about the global network that funds and supports piracy off the coast of Somalia."We have negotiators, translators and agents in many areas ... let me say across the world," said Suleyman, a pirate in the harbor town of Eyl, where scores of hijacked ships are docked.
"These people help us during exchanges of ransom and finding out the exact person to negotiate with," he told The Associated Press. Before cutting off the cell phone call, Suleyman snapped: "It is not possible to ask anymore about our secrets."
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shanec99 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:39:03am |
re: #1183 realwest
Yeah, but Marion Barry was mayor of a predominently Black city and those voters believed he was set up to light up that crack pipe!
He was set up... but he could have refused to do it too... the fact that he failed to use good judgement is what got him busted.
It was a sting operation... but the authorities knew his habits and played to them.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:39:20am |
re: #1222 Fluffy Bunny
Anyone need more popcorn? This just gets better and better!
Prepare for cries of racism.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:39:32am |
re: #1226 Golem Akbar
It opens the door for a Republican resurgance in 2010. Repubs now to think seriously about how they want to do this.
Yes we do. I would ask you though not to answer posts from Lunkheadtf over there until he apologizes for his untruths and unwarranted insults.
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:39:33am |
re: #1225 SurferDoc
Good morning, Lizards! It is a brisk 28 degrees here in the Mojave this AM. It is shorts weather inside, though. ;-)
It was in the low 40s here in the San Fernando Valley this morning. Man, I'm just not used to that kind of cold. (no sarc, I'm really not used to it)
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Fluffy Bunny Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:39:44am |
re: #1227 midwestgak
*passing bucket to Midwestgak* Careful it's hot! : D
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:40:24am |
re: #1232 3 wood
Yep.
Look's like Jesse Jackson Sr. never taught his son the most important lesson to learn when growing up in Chicago, don't get caught.
This is going to be good. Fluffy Bunny has popcorn #1222.
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:40:37am |
re: #1232 3 wood
Yep.
Look's like Jesse Jackson Sr. never taught his son the most important lesson to learn when growing up in Chicago, don't get caught.
And (remember Bill?) don't wag your finger at the media, either.
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:40:51am |
re: #1235 realwest
Well hell, isn't that what all innocent people do, consult with a lawyer before even meeting with the invesigators?!
Remember I said early this morning that he was canceling his personal appearances today?
I got that from the same source who says it was Emanuel who dropped dime on Blago.
So far, I like my sources.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:40:58am |
re: #1232 3 wood
Yep.
Look's like Jesse Jackson Sr. never taught his son the most important lesson to learn when growing up in Chicago, don't get caught.
Even Richard J. managed to pass on that lesson to Richard M. and his bothers. Jesse Jr. is in real deep doo-doo right now. Breaks my heart (NOT!).
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:41:01am |
re: #1220 Lincolntf
Wrong, wrong and wrong. But go ahead and do your little GAZEY thing 'til the cows come home.
Your words cannot be denied. You lied.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:41:04am |
re: #1238 Lincolntf
The word is "liar", Wally. And I'm not "lieing" about anything. I wish that my "real" career was in Natural History, but I haven't quite made the jump yet. I will someday make my entire living in Natural History.
Thanks for the spelling correction. I do get a bit beyond myself when I have something to say.
How come you keep putting "real" in quotes. Last night you did that for construction management. Which on is it. I don't think you are sure of what the fuck you do.
Did I spell "fuck" correctly?
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Ben Hur Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:41:18am |
I can't believe that call.
Maybe I should consider changing professions.
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LilyGecko Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:41:24am |
re: #1245 Fluffy Bunny
*passing bucket to Midwestgak* Careful it's hot! : D
I have a bucket of Chocolatey Caramel Crunch...
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:41:25am |
re: #1239 MandyManners
I'm finer than a frog's hair split three ways. How're you?
Just wonderful.. I'm 4 hours away from a 4 day weekend..
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Fluffy Bunny Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:42:15am |
re: #1242 3 wood
Prepare for cries of racism.
I am so sick of the cries of racism, why can't people be held accountable for their actions based on the action rather than the skin tone...GAH!
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Honorary Yooper Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:42:27am |
re: #1251 Walter L. Newton
Did I spell "fuck" correctly?
Yes, but you might want to consult with the Criminal Complaint against Governor Blagojevich just to make sure.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:42:47am |
re: #1238 Lincolntf
The word is "liar", Wally. And I'm not "lieing" about anything. I wish that my "real" career was in Natural History, but I haven't quite made the jump yet. I will someday make my entire living in Natural History.
What is Natural History? That trees historically lose their leaves each Fall?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:42:49am |
re: #1235 realwest
Love this line from your link: "Jackson Jr. said he agreed to talk with federal investigators "as quickly as possible" after he consults with a lawyer. [emphasis added, realwest].
Well hell, isn't that what all innocent people do, consult with a lawyer before even meeting with the invesigators?!
If they're smart they do. Rule #1 when meeting criminal investigators is to bring a lawyer. They may be targeting you. Even if you are innocent, don't count on that fact. Get a lawyer and secure your position.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:43:10am |
-A Saturn Moon Teaming with Organic Chemicals: A Galaxy Insight
NASA's Cassini spacecraft discovered a surprising organic brew erupting in geyser-like fashion from Saturn's moon Enceladus during a close flyby on March 12. Scientists are stunned that this tiny moon is so active, "hot" and teeming with water vapor and organic chemicals.
"Enceladus has got warmth, water and organic chemicals, some of the essential building blocks needed for life," said Dennis Matson, Cassini project scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "We have quite a recipe for life on our hands, but we have yet to find the final ingredient, liquid water, but Enceladus is only whetting our appetites for more."
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:43:13am |
re: #1240 jcm
I'm telling ya, the UN (ha!) should authorize the use of force of the nations' navies to rid the world of these scumbags.
Regrettably, I'd bet money that a lot of these "middlemen" are IN the UN. Just like the Oil for Food Scandal.
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HoosierHoops Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:43:30am |
re: #1254 LilyGecko
I have a bucket of Chocolatey Caramel Crunch...
Anybody need a refill on their coffee?
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Gray Skies Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:43:31am |
My condolences to you as well. I was just remembering one of the funny moments with our Annie. My husband put a doggie door in for her, but she was scared to death of it. My husband had to actually go through it himself several times before she would even attempt it. It was quite hilarious watching him trying to squeeze through that door with his belly. I'm laughing again just picturing it!
re: #1157 Fluffy Bunny
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:43:34am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:43:51am |
re: #1238 Lincolntf
You're a fucking regular Renaissance Man, aintcha'?
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:43:56am |
re: #1257 Honorary Yooper
Yes, but you might want to consult with
the Criminal Complaint against Governor BlagojevichBlago's wife just to make sure.
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]
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maddogg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:43:58am |
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:44:03am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:44:32am |
re: #1241 shanec99
He was set up?! I sure as hell didn't see anyone "set up" on that video tape and no one made him hit on that crack pipe.
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:44:38am |
re: #1213 3 wood
Not nearly as saucy as John Doe Number 9 (aka Eliot Spitzer). Still wondering who 1-8 were... /heh
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:44:43am |
re: #1238 Lincolntf
The word is "liar", Wally. And I'm not "lieing" about anything. I wish that my "real" career was in Natural History, but I haven't quite made the jump yet. I will someday make my entire living in Natural History.
And by the way, "Wally" is not the diminutive of Walter. At least I use my real name and don't hide behind some made up career.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:44:46am |
re: #1245 Fluffy Bunny
*passing bucket to Midwestgak* Careful it's hot! : D
This is good! And you used real popcorn salt. (Licking fingers, oh wait, no I'm not)
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:45:45am |
re: #1242 3 wood
As I've been saying my friend, if they have Jackson Jr ON TAPE, the cries of racism won't help him anymore than they did Jefferson "cold cash" in Louisiana.
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shanec99 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:46:02am |
re: #1256 Fluffy Bunny
I am so sick of the cries of racism, why can't people be held accountable for their actions based on the action rather than the skin tone...GAH!
I am not sick of the call of racism... racism should not be condoned, and it should be aggressively investigated where it is suspected and rooted out with whatever tool we have at our disposal.
What I am sick of is people who falsely use the charge of racism to cover up ineptitude or draw attention away from their own criminal behavior.
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hermit Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:46:08am |
re: #1220 Lincolntf
Wrong, wrong and wrong. But go ahead and do your little GAZEY thing 'til the cows come home.
Hey...you're kinda new here. Nobody on this site will tolerate misrepresenting yourself, regardless of the context of your argument.
In Charles' living room, when you are asked to account for your statements, you should. And you should resist insulting your host or the resident guests.
You act like you want to get banned, so keep making fun of the other guests and don't apologize for spilling your drink.
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:46:37am |
re: #1275 buzzsawmonkey
Where do I find the origins of the current pile-on? I like original source material.
It was discovered in a barn some time ago. Spread out in and among the hay. In big piles.
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Ben Hur Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:47:18am |
December 10, 2008 Stat of the DayIn 2007, Toyota sold 9.37 million vehicles.
In 2007, General Motors sold 9.37 million vehicles.
In 2007, Toyota made $17.1 billion.
In 2007, General Motors lost $38.7 billion.
[Link: www.crossingwallstreet.com...]
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:47:19am |
Pretty soon, Obama will not even remember where the midwest is.
By the way, Jesse Jackson Jr. was one of Obama's national co-chairs of his election campaign
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LilyGecko Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:47:32am |
re: #1279 hermit
You act like you want to get banned, so keep making fun of the other guests and don't apologize for spilling your drink.
Lincolntf:
Karma: -271
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:47:37am |
re: #1236 UFO TOFU
Hey Golem, aren't you in socal? A statewide business boom is on it's way!
And I voted for the Governator, too! But our whole state is nuts, and the State legislature is about 2/3 democrat. California is indeed circling the drain. But, we've still got great weather! [and pretty good surf]
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:47:41am |
re: #1275 buzzsawmonkey
Where do I find the origins of the current pile-on? I like original source material.
Last night's plumber thread.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:48:08am |
Governor Patterson in NY and Governor Minner in Delaware are also in the process of nominating interim senators, correct?
I've not seen any articals that tie the Illinois conpiracy with what may be happening in other states, but shouldn't a microscope be applied to those other situations, too?
Is the US officially a banana republic now, or is this the way it has always been and I was too dumb to see?
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tfc3rid Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:48:10am |
I'm not sure if any of you have seen this today...
Hope and change... We need the World to love us...
WASHINGTON, (AFP) – President-elect Barack Obama plans to give "a major address" in an Islamic capital soon after taking office as he seeks to mend America's image in the Muslim world, a Chicago Tribune interview said.
"I think we've got a unique opportunity to reboot America's image around the world and also in the Muslim world in particular," Obama said in the interview published late Tuesday on the Tribune's website.
Obama promised an "unrelenting" desire to "create a relationship of mutual respect and partnership in countries and with peoples of good will who want their citizens and ours to prosper together."
The world "is ready for that message."
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:48:24am |
re: #1269 maddogg
Is all that slippery stuff on the streets of Chicago ice, or just cold slime?
It's ice, but not for long. They do a pretty good job of keeping the streets clear and slated here. One of the few things that can get even a machine protected politician thrown out is to fail to plow the snow. No kidding, Daley Sr.'s successor, Michael Blandic (I may have spelled the last name worng), was tossed out after failing to clear up a major snowstorm in 1979.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:48:37am |
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VegasRick Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:48:51am |
re: #1278 shanec99
I am not sick of the call of racism... racism should not be condoned, and it should be aggressively investigated where it is suspected and rooted out with whatever tool we have at our disposal.
What I am sick of is people who falsely use the charge of racism to cover up ineptitude or draw attention away from their own criminal behavior.
Oh please, .01/99.99, real racism/bullshit.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:48:57am |
UPDATE - Here is Lincolntf's post about his career from the Joe the Plumber thread
last night.
"A hardcore Creationist? I teach Evolution, Charles. Pretty much every day."
He first starts out claiming he teaches evolution on a daily basis.
"Yes, I know. If one doesn't agree in exactly the right way, to the exact right degree, they are a
"hardcore Creationist". How on earth does a "Creationist" make a living in Natural History?
I must be living in the Twilight Zone."
So here he states that he couldn't be a hardcore creationist since he makes a living in Natural
History
"My wife would say that I'm "trying to make a living" in Natural History, and she'd
be mostly right. My "real" career is Construction Mgmt. Either way, I don't lie in my posts or in my
real life. I find it morally repugnant and ultimately counter-productive."
Now hie changes his story. He blames his "lack" of a natural history career on his wife's
perception of his career as an construction manager. But, he doesn't lie.
Lincolntf's, you are an outright lier, plain and simple, proven by your own words, not mine.
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Dianna Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:49:16am |
re: #1287 MandyManners
Last night's plumber thread.
Good heavens, is lincolntf still annoying people?
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:49:31am |
re: #1253 Ben Hur
I can't believe that call.
Maybe I should consider changing professions.
Try it out at the track first. If your gut lets you pick the exactors and trifectas, then you won't need a profession at all.
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hermit Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:49:34am |
re: #1275 buzzsawmonkey
Where do I find the origins of the current pile-on? I like original source material.
last night ....or user search "lincolntf..
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:49:37am |
re: #1289 tfc3rid
I'm not sure if any of you have seen this today...
Hope and change... We need the World to love us...
WASHINGTON, (AFP) – President-elect Barack Obama plans to give "a major address" in an Islamic capital soon after taking office as he seeks to mend America's image in the Muslim world, a Chicago Tribune interview said.
"I think we've got a unique opportunity to reboot America's image around the world and also in the Muslim world in particular," Obama said in the interview published late Tuesday on the Tribune's website.
Obama promised an "unrelenting" desire to "create a relationship of mutual respect and partnership in countries and with peoples of good will who want their citizens and ours to prosper together."
The world "is ready for that message."
Which capitol?
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Dustyvet Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:49:55am |
Illinois has long legacy of public corruption
At least 79 elected officials have been convicted of wrongdoing since 1972.
And welcome to the Land of Lincoln...:(
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:49:58am |
re: #1267 MandyManners
You're a
fucking[bleeping] regular Renaissance Man, aintcha'?
{this post edited by Patrick Fitzgerald}
:-)
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:50:26am |
re: #1278 shanec99
I am not sick of the call of racism... racism should not be condoned, and it should be aggressively investigated where it is suspected and rooted out with whatever tool we have at our disposal.
What I am sick of is people who falsely use the charge of racism to cover up ineptitude or draw attention away from their own criminal behavior.
You mean like: Go OJ, Go?
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:50:41am |
Cancer to be world's top killer by 2010, says WHO
ATLANTA – Cancer will overtake heart disease as the world's top killer by 2010, part of a trend that should more than double global cancer cases and deaths by 2030, international health experts said in a report released Tuesday. Rising tobacco use in developing countries is believed to be a huge reason for the shift, particularly in China and India, where 40 percent of the world's smokers now live.
*snip*
The organizations are calling on governments to act, asking the U.S. to help fund cervical cancer vaccinations and to ratify an international tobacco control treaty.
Global ban on smoking!
/guh
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:50:43am |
re: #1294 Dianna
Good heavens, is lincolntf still annoying people?
And, I'm still dinging the little fucker.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:50:47am |
re: #1283 Ben Hur
Holy Crap Ben - that's just unbelievable! Thanks for the post and link!
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:51:01am |
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:51:07am |
re: #1290 Dark_Falcon
It's ice, but not for long. They do a pretty good job of keeping the streets clear and slated here. One of the few things that can get even a machine protected politician thrown out is to fail to plow the snow. No kidding, Daley Sr.'s successor, Michael Blandic (I may have spelled the last name worng), was tossed out after failing to clear up a major snowstorm in 1979.
I thought is was Jane Burn (Sp)
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shanec99 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:51:10am |
re: #1271 realwest
He was set up?! I sure as hell didn't see anyone "set up" on that video tape and no one made him hit on that crack pipe.
FBI got the woman in the room with the crack... she was a paid FBI informer.
Check the records and you will see. Barry did not bring the crack pipe, the informant did.
But that is beside the point... the FBI knew Barry would use the crack if the opportunity presented itself... This was in a city where he was mayor and drug related murders were wreaking havoc on the citizens he was pledged to protect... so even though he was set up, I have no sympathy for him.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:51:17am |
UPDATE - Here is Lincolntf's post about his career from the Joe the Plumber thread last night.
"A hardcore Creationist? I teach Evolution, Charles. Pretty much every day."
He first starts out claiming he teaches evolution on a daily basis.
"Yes, I know. If one doesn't agree in exactly the right way, to the exact right degree, they are a "hardcore Creationist". How on earth does a "Creationist" make a living in Natural History?
I must be living in the Twilight Zone."
So here he states that he couldn't be a hardcore creationist since he makes a living in Natural History
"My wife would say that I'm "trying to make a living" in Natural History, and she'd be mostly right. My "real" career is Construction Mgmt. Either way, I don't lie in my posts or in my real life. I find it morally repugnant and ultimately counter-productive."
Now hie changes his story. He blames his "lack" of a natural history career on his wife's perception of his career as an construction manager. But, he doesn't lie.
Lincolntf's, you are an outright lier, plain and simple, proven by your own words, not mine.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:51:17am |
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:51:38am |
re: #1288 DeafDog
Governor Patterson in NY and Governor Minner in Delaware are also in the process of nominating interim senators, correct?
I've not seen any articals that tie the Illinois conpiracy with what may be happening in other states, but shouldn't a microscope be applied to those other situations, too?
Is the US officially a banana republic now, or is this the way it has always been and I was too dumb to see?
Yes, Yes and only if Chiquita Brands gets a bailout also.
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Fluffy Bunny Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:51:45am |
re: #1264 Gray Skies
When we first brought Tahoe home, he was terrified of the tile in our kitchen. We had to pick him up and carry him through to the rest of the house, and he was no small puppy! Those memories are wonderful aren't they? Keep thinking of the good times! *Big hug*
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:51:54am |
re: #1268 Fat Jolly Penguin
From your link:
During the call, ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s wife can be heard in the background telling ROD BLAGOJEVICH to tell Deputy Governor A “to hold up that fucking Cubs shit. . . fuck them.”
Sounds like Richard Mell's kid to me. I never heard Richard say a sentence off camera with out an F-bomb in it.
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:52:01am |
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albusteve Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:52:15am |
back in the old AOL sports board flame wars you just absolutely had to scroll by the mobys and troublemakers...why give one person so much attention?...he's laughing at you...jus sayin
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jcm Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:52:24am |
re: #1262 realwest
I'm telling ya, the UN (ha!) should authorize the use of force of the nations' navies to rid the world of these scumbags.
Regrettably, I'd bet money that a lot of these "middlemen" are IN the UN. Just like the Oil for Food Scandal.
A Squadron of P-3 just returned to Whidbey NAS, they were working out of Diego Garcia, part of their tasking was to work the pirate issue.
Not enough, a BB cruising the area might get some attention.
*I know BB's are old school and aircraft more efficent, but a BB makes a statement.*
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:52:34am |
re: #1278 shanec99
What about cries of racism from White people? Do you feel the same way (cause surer than hell White people have at times been hurt by Black racism)?
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shanec99 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:52:35am |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:52:48am |
re: #1306 Fat Jolly Penguin
Nah. Asshat-france wound up in the -600s.
So will he if he lasts much longer.
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Fluffy Bunny Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:52:48am |
re: #1274 midwestgak
Crap...forgot the napkins, here you go!
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:53:02am |
re: #1290 Dark_Falcon
No kidding, Daley Sr.'s successor, Michael Blandic (I may have spelled the last name worng), was tossed out after failing to clear up a major snowstorm in 1979.
Yep, I was in college at DePaul then and had to travel through that every day.
That was how Jane Byrne got elected mayor.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:53:34am |
re: #1294 Dianna
Good heavens, is lincolntf still annoying people?
Why don't you stop annoying people!?
--George Bailey to Clarence (tis' the season)
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LilyGecko Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:53:36am |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:53:58am |
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:54:08am |
re: #1314 3 wood
Sounds like Richard Mell's kid to me. I never heard Richard say a sentence off camera with out an F-bomb in it.
Richard Mell -- another Chicago Democrat. Hmm.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:54:15am |
Jihad against Christmas...
Muslim lawyer Anjem Choudary brands Christmas 'evil'
In the sermon posted on an Islamic website, he said: "In the world today many Muslims, especially those residing in western countries, are exposed to the evil celebration Christmas.
"Many take part in the festival celebrations by having Christmas turkey dinners.
"Decorating the house, purchasing Christmas trees or having Christmas turkey meals are completely prohibited by Allah.
"Many still practise this corrupt celebration as a remembrance of the birth of Jesus.
"How can a Muslim possibly approve or participate in such a practice that bases itself on the notion Allah has an offspring?
"The very concept of Christmas contradicts and conflicts with the foundation of Islam.
"Every Muslim has a responsibility to protect his family from the misguidance of Christmas, because its observance will lead to hellfire. Protect your Paradise from being taken away – protect yourself and your family from Christmas."
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:54:21am |
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:54:23am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:54:29am |
re: #1309 Walter L. Newton
Walter - with all due respect, I think the point has been made enough already this morning.
Maybe we should just let it go and GAZE from now on?
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uncc_compman Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:54:50am |
Energy Companies could face lawsuits over "global warming"
Does this mean that the same companies can charge peope who's property, health, and lives are saved from there being less snow and cold?
/sarc
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:54:54am |
re: #1303 Fat Jolly Penguin
Cancer to be world's top killer by 2010, says WHO
Global ban on smoking!/guh
I read somewhere that prostate cancer is the number one killer of men over age 50. I think us guys ought to stop smoking through our prostates; I for one, have stopped doing that.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:54:58am |
re: #1235 realwest
Actually it is highly advised. Check these out.
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shanec99 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:55:48am |
re: #1302 Golem Akbar
You mean like: Go OJ, Go?
OJ Simpson was a spoiled brat who had good looks and tremendous talent. He believed he was above the law and could purchase the kind of legal assistance to keep him one step ahead of proscecution.
He is a blight on race relations in America.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:56:09am |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:56:22am |
re: #1307 midwestgak
I thought is was Jane Burn (Sp)
Jane Byrne was the woman who beat Blandic. She had news crews filming her out in the snow attacking Blandic. He never recovered. Ever since, snow removal has been something the machine takes seriously. They still graft off of it, but they make sure the work gets done.
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LilyGecko Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:56:44am |
re: #1339 MandyManners
Any way to find out where he went?
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:56:54am |
re: #1317 jcm
Oh yeah, a BB does indeed make a statement! But they are all in mothballs now - use what we have; hell a single damned Destroyer could wipe out all the pirates.
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Buck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:57:01am |
re: #1329 Killgore Trout
Jihad against Christmas...
Muslim lawyer Anjem Choudary brands Christmas 'evil'
I guess this guy does not know that Jesus is considered a Prophet in Islam.
How could that be?
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Ben Hur Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:57:05am |
re: #1295 Spare O'Lake
Try it out at the track first. If your gut lets you pick the exactors and trifectas, then you won't need a profession at all.
You may be onto something.
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:57:07am |
re: #1335 Golem Akbar
I read somewhere that prostate cancer is the number one killer of men over age 50. I think us guys ought to stop smoking through our prostates; I for one, have stopped doing that.
You've stopped eating spicy foods?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:57:11am |
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:57:19am |
re: #1335 Golem Akbar
I read somewhere that prostate cancer is the number one killer of men over age 50. I think us guys ought to stop smoking through our prostates; I for one, have stopped doing that.
Yikes.
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:57:23am |
re: #1235 realwest
Love this line from your link: "Jackson Jr. said he agreed to talk with federal investigators "as quickly as possible" after he consults with a lawyer. [emphasis added, realwest].
Well hell, isn't that what all innocent people do, consult with a lawyer before even meeting with the invesigators?!
Heh. And a visit with a sympathetic pastor next.
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VegasRick Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:57:37am |
re: #1337 Bubblehead II
Actually it is highly advised. Check these out.
I blame George Bruch for everything! Bruch lied, people died!
/
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:57:40am |
re: #1332 realwest
Walter - with all due respect, I think the point has been made enough already this morning.
Maybe we should just let it go and GAZE from now on?
Ah, Real, this person spent over 2 hours calling people out, lying, making claims he couldn't even support and trash mouthing Charles.
And then he jumps in here this morning as if he's just one of the gang.
He owes a whole lot of people here an apology or at least some explanation for his comments and the way he treated other Lizards on the Joe the Plumber thread.
Sorry if you missed it, and sorry if you are getting to much of it this morning.
If you noticed, I'm not the only one in this thread swinging a clue-bat.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:57:44am |
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:57:45am |
re: #1340 Dark_Falcon
Jane Byrne was the woman who beat Blandic. She had news crews filming her out in the snow attacking Blandic. He never recovered. Ever since, snow removal has been something the machine takes seriously. They still graft off of it, but they make sure the work gets done.
Thanks for the info.
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shanec99 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:57:53am |
re: #1319 realwest
What about cries of racism from White people? Do you feel the same way (cause surer than hell White people have at times been hurt by Black racism)?
All racism should be eradicated by liberal application of all the instruments of the state.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:58:01am |
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Kragar Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:58:07am |
re: #1337 Bubblehead II
Actually it is highly advised. Check these out.
First thing I learned while taking Criminal Justice classes was the worst thing you could possibly do is say anything to a police officer if you get arrested
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turn Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:58:58am |
re: #1289 tfc3rid
I followed that link from Drudge earlier, I think that it was simply a quote from the Tribune, not actual words from Obama.
Morning lizards, oh this Blago corruption story is rich. You have to know O knew about the pay for play on the senate seat, major character flaw to try and cover it up. He should have admitted he talked about it but deny any bribe was solicited.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:59:09am |
re: #1341 LilyGecko
Any way to find out where he went?
A Lizard's profile shows if he/she is logged in but beyond that I have no idea.
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DeafDog Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:59:38am |
re: #1335 Golem Akbar
I read somewhere that prostate cancer is the number one killer of men over age 50. I think us guys ought to stop smoking through our prostates; I for one, have stopped doing that.
You have talent. Did you ever work at sex show in Bangkok?
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:59:39am |
re: #1335 Golem Akbar
TRUST ME ON THIS: not smoking through your prostate won't stop prostate cancer and yes it IS the number one killer of men over 50.
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Fluffy Bunny Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:59:40am |
re: #1326 LilyGecko
Shoot...I knew I was forgetting something! Anyone else I missed? Last chance, I'm not getting back up until intermission! : D
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bosforus Wed, Dec 10, 2008 8:59:43am |
Need some quick help (optional)
Would anyone like to make any guesses on what this name is?
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:00:00am |
re: #1343 Buck
I guess this guy does not know that Jesus is considered a Prophet in Islam. How could that be?
From a Islamic Prophet...
"There shall in that time be rumors of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia-work base, that has an attachment. At that time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer, and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight O'clock. "
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:00:11am |
Look I know that lincolntf is wrong about the whales, you know it and so what? He can be wrong on a host of issues, this is the Internet, he could be secretly a cross dressing communist with delusions that he is Queen of Romania for all I care. When he posts about "Natural History" I may consider him unreliable and if he is rude I will ignore him but I do not see any reason to pursue him. Frankly I feel good about saying this for someone I disagree with on the issue. My hero is Alexander Hamilton who stood up for the Tory President of King's College.
I think that this obsession with purity on that issue is leading to cyber bullying. If you think I am ruining your club then tell me so.
There goes my Karma.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:00:18am |
re: #1348 Kenneth
Heh. And a visit with a sympathetic pastor next.
Speaking of which, what's Wright up to nowadays?
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:00:20am |
re: #1334 uncc_compman
Energy Companies could face lawsuits over "global warming"
Does this mean that the same companies can charge peope who's property, health, and lives are saved from there being less snow and cold?
/sarc
I'm confused... who's going to sue them? People who have never used any energy?
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:00:44am |
re: #1339 MandyManners
How do you know that he was still logged in?
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hermit Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:01:07am |
re: #1357 MandyManners
Let's leave the boor alone...and celebrate my Lizard-Day! I am ONE! Today!
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turn Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:01:08am |
re: #1350 Walter L. Newton
Hey Walter, you gonna be all right? You know I actually got that line from Cognito, no kidding.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:01:10am |
re: #1360 Fluffy Bunny
Shoot...I knew I was forgetting something! Anyone else I missed? Last chance, I'm not getting back up until intermission! : D
No, I'm good. But when you get a chance would you please refill my soda?
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Ben Hur Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:01:33am |
re: #1343 Buck
I guess this guy does not know that Jesus is considered a Prophet in Islam.
How could that be?
Because that is an effen crock of PR bullsh*t designed to bait and switch potential Christian reverts.
I have a meeting now, so I can't take the time to Google the translation of the Arabic writings on the inner walls of the Dome of the Rock.
It makes it pretty clear they don't believe Jesus was a prophet.
They don't beleive he was crucified fer G-d's sake.
It's BS.
They're trying to out Buddist and Bahai the Buddists and Bahais.
BBL.
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VegasRick Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:01:57am |
re: #1361 bosforus
Need some quick help (optional)
Would anyone like to make any guesses on what this name is?
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
Keith Kendrick?
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:02:08am |
re: #1361 bosforus
Need some quick help (optional)
Would anyone like to make any guesses on what this name is?
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
What is the point?
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Kenneth Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:02:31am |
re: #1343 Buck
He knows Islam considers Jesus a prophet, but otherwise an ordianary human. What's got him all in a jihad-tizzy is the very idea that "Allah" had a Son. The Son of God thing riles up the Muslims. It's all part of the Islamic replacement theology.
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tfc3rid Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:02:35am |
realwest...
Sabathia... 7 years, $161 Million for the Yankees... opt out clause after 3 years...
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DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:02:37am |
re: #1343 Buck
I guess this guy does not know that Jesus is considered a Prophet in Islam.
How could that be?
Must be in the same section as the whole "religion of peace" part. . .that is somehting that still amazes my Christian friends. . .that Jesus is considered a prophet. . .in Islam
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3 wood Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:02:50am |
re: #1331 jorline
Yep, I posted it a little before you.
Think the Lizards are getting a taste of just how corrupt the Chicago Machine is?
Believe me folks, you are just seeing the tip of the ice berg here.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:02:51am |
re: #1350 Walter L. Newton
I know you're not the only one swinging a clue bat Walter, but still - at some point isn't enough enough?
Not just for you, but for everyone?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:02:56am |
re: #1363 lifeofthemind
Look I know that lincolntf is wrong about the whales, you know it and so what? He can be wrong on a host of issues, this is the Internet, he could be secretly a cross dressing communist with delusions that he is Queen of Romania for all I care. When he posts about "Natural History" I may consider him unreliable and if he is rude I will ignore him but I do not see any reason to pursue him. Frankly I feel good about saying this for someone I disagree with on the issue. My hero is Alexander Hamilton who stood up for the Tory President of King's College.
I think that this obsession with purity on that issue is leading to cyber bullying. If you think I am ruining your club then tell me so.
There goes my Karma.
I'm not pursuing him for his stance on evolution but because he lied and obfuscated and insulted Charles and Lizards.
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:03:03am |
re: #1364 MandyManners
Speaking of which, what's Wright up to nowadays?
Putting the finishing touches on his "benediction" for the BO coronation inaugural, no doubt.
*HEAVE*
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LGoPs Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:03:04am |
re: #1121 Dark_Falcon
The MSM doesn't care if ordinary mortals die, so long as they get the amnesty policy they want. In this, they are like Bill Ayers (and like me sometimes, if I am to be honest). In both cases it's "Let my will be done, no matter what the cost to others!" It's a bad way to think, and I try overcome it, though I am not always successful.
The point is that you're introspective and at least conscious of your potential failing...which earns you respect in my eyes. The problem with the media and liberals in general is that I don't think they ever question their beliefs because they are consumed with self-righteousness...and that's dangerous.
Questioning yourself is healthy.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:03:14am |
re: #1363 lifeofthemind
Did you read my posts and my clips/pastes of his comments last night. My only issue was his tape dancing in relation to his career.
Do you like to be lied (see Linc', I spelt it correctly this time) to? I don't. And he persisted in his lies.
No, I don't want him here if he is going to keep doing that. I my posts are a way to tell the host that I don't like some of the company he's invited in.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:03:28am |
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Buck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:03:41am |
re: #1342 realwest
Oh yeah, a BB does indeed make a statement! But they are all in mothballs now - use what we have; hell a single damned Destroyer could wipe out all the pirates.
But you know when the Destroyer sinks one of the pirate crafts, it will be filled with "Wedding guests"... and the national news will show a wedding dress floating in blood.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:03:49am |
re: #1367 hermit
Let's leave the boor alone...and celebrate my Lizard-Day! I am ONE! Today!
Happy B-day! Any many more!
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tfc3rid Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:03:55am |
re: #1365 Kenneth
I'm confused... who's going to sue them? People who have never used any energy?
Those damn Amish again!
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:04:01am |
re: #1338 shanec99
OJ Simpson was a spoiled brat who had good looks and tremendous talent. He believed he was above the law and could purchase the kind of legal assistance to keep him one step ahead of proscecution.
He is a blight on race relations in America.
Absolutely. And it's a shame that the black community gave him their blind support -- and claimed it was racism that was to blame. Too often the race card is used, instead of the truth.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:04:09am |
re: #1378 realwest
I know you're not the only one swinging a clue bat Walter, but still - at some point isn't enough enough?
Not just for you, but for everyone?
yes and thank you...it's early...have another shot of prune juice and move on
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Pyrocles Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:04:17am |
"We must reject modernity and return to the Stone Age for the good of the planet! Convert to Islam or die!" - Liberals of the not-so-distant future.
re: #1365 Kenneth
I'm confused... who's going to sue them? People who have never used any energy?
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jaunte Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:04:19am |
re: #1329 Killgore Trout
""Decorating the house, purchasing Christmas trees or having Christmas turkey meals are completely prohibited by Allah."
TURKEY FATWA!
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:04:33am |
re: #1363 lifeofthemind
Nah, you're karma went up with me.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:04:37am |
re: #1363 lifeofthemind
With due respect, lifeofthemind, lunkheadtf didn't just get the facts wrong, he outright lied. And when he gets caught lying, he insults the people who point out the lies. He's a jerk and I feel no regret to doing my part to either run him off or reform him (though I would prefer the latter).
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Golem Akbar Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:04:48am |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:04:52am |
Does anyone know how long the Christmas Tree will be up in Rockefeller Center? My Mom & I have always gone up to NY to see the tree, but with her health as it is now, we may not make it before Dec. 25th.
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turn Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:04:52am |
re: #1377 3 wood
Yep, I posted it a little before you.
Think the Lizards are getting a taste of just how corrupt the Chicago Machine is?
Believe me folks, you are just seeing the tip of the ice berg here.
That would be me 3, I thought it couldn't be worse than anywhere else until this thing broke.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:05:11am |
re: #1367 hermit
Let's leave the boor alone...and celebrate my Lizard-Day! I am ONE! Today!
Happy Lizard Day! Have some karma.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:05:13am |
re: #1381 CIA Reject
Putting the finishing touches on his "benediction" for the BO
coronationinaugural, no doubt.*HEAVE*
I thought he was working on a book.
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:05:17am |
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jcm Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:05:34am |
re: #1342 realwest
Oh yeah, a BB does indeed make a statement! But they are all in mothballs now - use what we have; hell a single damned Destroyer could wipe out all the pirates.
To really wipe 'em out we'll need boots on the ground. And SOF tracking down the network.
What can I say, I like BB's I think we should keep a couple on line, a visual brown note so to speak.
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DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:05:50am |
re: #1364 MandyManners
Speaking of which, what's Wright up to nowadays?
composing his speech for the Ball. . .swearing in. . .whathaveyou
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:06:06am |
re: #1387 Buck
But you know when the Destroyer sinks one of the pirate crafts, it will be filled with "Wedding guests"... and the national news will show a wedding dress floating in blood.
Does the Navy get extra points for taking out a cross-dressing pirate?
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gregg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:06:15am |
re: #1283 Ben Hur
[Link: www.crossingwallstreet.com...]
I think it was Mark Steyn who said, "They lose money on every car they sell, but we make up for it in volume."
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:06:38am |
re: #1394 jaunte
""Decorating the house, purchasing Christmas trees or having Christmas turkey meals are completely prohibited by Allah."
TURKEY FATWA!
Jehovah's Witnesses also follow this... as do a number of other Christian sects. Christmas as a verboten religious celebration is not just part of Islam.
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VegasRick Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:06:56am |
re: #1329 Killgore Trout
Jihad against Christmas...
Muslim lawyer Anjem Choudary brands Christmas 'evil'
allah, mo, anjem and all the rest can blow me.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:07:00am |
re: #1395 Kenneth
Ranting, I should think.
To whom? I thought he retired. (I hope he doesn't have pets.)
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Fluffy Bunny Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:07:02am |
re: #1388 midwestgak
Happy Lizard Birthday...while I was up I made you a cake! Enjoy!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:07:02am |
re: #1404 jcm
To really wipe 'em out we'll need boots on the ground. And SOF tracking down the network.
What can I say, I like BB's I think we should keep a couple on line, a visual brown note so to speak.
BBs? Those things care barely break the skin!
/
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:07:23am |
re: #1375 tfc3rid
Hi my friend - yeah, I know and have made plenty of comments about it: The Yanks get a very fine pitcher, who's not only a winner, but gives a lot of quality innings. But NO ATHELETE is worth that much. NO athelete is worth anywhere near that much.
(but I'm glad we got him! LOL!)!
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tfc3rid Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:07:29am |
re: #1399 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Does anyone know how long the Christmas Tree will be up in Rockefeller Center? My Mom & I have always gone up to NY to see the tree, but with her health as it is now, we may not make it before Dec. 25th.
Usually until New Year's day.
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:07:48am |
re: #1415 Iron Fist
You mean the Democrats are going to quit blowing smoke out of their ass? That'll never happen.
Sphincter, mouth, same thing in their case.
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CIA Reject Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:08:06am |
re: #1402 MandyManners
I thought he was working on a book.
What's he going to use for a title considering that "Mein Kampf" is already taken?
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:08:22am |
re: #1403 Hard Right
That will also stop colon smoking. Just sayin...
When will OB stop smoking, or stop saying he's stopped smoking?
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:08:26am |
re: #1377 3 wood
you are just seeing the tip of the ice berg here.
Oh, so we're blaming the Jews now, are we?
/
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DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:08:30am |
re: #1377 3 wood
Yep, I posted it a little before you.
Think the Lizards are getting a taste of just how corrupt the Chicago Machine is?
Believe me folks, you are just seeing the tip of the ice berg here.
True that. . .it is so bad that . . .well, rememeber the scene in Batman Begins? When Gordon refuses another bribe, and his crooked partner says that because he refuses he makes others wonder. . .Gordon says I'm no rat. . .pause. . .in a town this dirty, who would I rat to?
Welcome to ChiHellGo style government. . .coming to 1600 Penn. . .
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tfc3rid Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:08:32am |
re: #1416 realwest
Yanks are also close on Derek Lowe... Although they are right now around 4 years $66 Million... THAT is insane... It's clear they are angry and tossing money out there...
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jcm Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:08:56am |
re: #1410 Walter L. Newton
Jehovah's Witnesses also follow this... as do a number of other Christian sects. Christmas as a verboten religious celebration is not just part of Islam.
We don't celebrate Christmas, we also don't get all excited about it either, we enjoy the family time etc... but don't explicitly celebrate Christmas. More of a passive opt out type of thing.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:09:00am |
re: #1405 DisturbedEma
composing his speech for the Ball. . .swearing in. . .whathaveyou
I wonder if he's even be invited. If he is, will the MFM report it?
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Hard Right Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:09:06am |
re: #1420 midwestgak
When will OB stop smoking, or stop saying he's stopped smoking?
Right after he has stopped stopped smoking.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:09:08am |
re: #1407 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Does the Navy get extra points for taking out a cross-dressing pirate?
Unpossible. They all called in gay today.
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UFO TOFU Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:09:19am |
re: #1359 realwest
TRUST ME ON THIS: not smoking through your prostate won't stop prostate cancer
Yeah, but not doing it couldn't hurt.
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jaunte Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:09:24am |
re: #1410 Walter L. Newton
I'm wondering if the non-Christian faithful are risking accusations of impropriety if they eat turkey during the Christmas season.
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jcm Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:09:44am |
re: #1414 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
BBs? Those things care barely break the skin!
/
You must have really thick skin...'
/ ;-P
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:09:56am |
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:09:59am |
re: #1413 Fluffy Bunny
Happy Lizard Birthday...while I was up I made you a cake! Enjoy!
I believe you meant this for hermit. I'm only 5 months old. :)
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uncc_compman Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:10:02am |
re: #1365 Kenneth
I'm confused... who's going to sue them? People who have never used any energy?
No, people who have had damage done by disasters, but they can only sue for the increase in damages caused by "manmade" "global warming", as calculated by a computer model.
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DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:10:18am |
re: #1425 MandyManners
I wonder if he's even be invited. If he is, will the MFM report it?
I have bet people he AND Ayers will be there. . .
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:10:22am |
re: #1334 uncc_compman
Energy Companies could face lawsuits over "global warming"
Does this mean that the same companies can charge peope who's property, health, and lives are saved from there being less snow and cold?
/sarc
Well, in the case of the auto makers, it would be the government that gets sued, because they're trying to take them over. that would leave the utilities, and they wouldn't last long either. Say hello to brownouts and spotty service (moreso than there is now).
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:10:32am |
re: #1422 DisturbedEma
Welcome to ChiHellGo style government. . .coming to 1600 Penn. . .
My opinion, welcome to some politicians who got caught. This kind of stuff is not new to 1600 Penn... This is just politics as usual. It's no shock to me.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:10:32am |
re: #1419 CIA Reject
What's he going to use for a title considering that "Mein Kampf" is already taken?
101 Ways to Cook Roosting Chickens?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:10:46am |
CAIR demands America surrender in Iraq and Afghanistan, also demands cabinet positions...
American Muslims Hope Obama Will Encourage Tolerance, Respect for Rule of Law
In his opening remarks at the annual fund-raising banquet, CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad called on Obama to pursue a less-militaristic policy in the Muslim world and to open his administration to the ideas and talents of Muslim-Americans.
"We are asking President-elect Barack Obama to deliver [on] his promise and end the illegal war in Iraq, and also we ask him not to escalate the war in Afghanistan and to seek consultation and counsel from American Muslims, who care both about America and the world," Awad said. "Finally, we are asking Barack Obama to be inclusive in his administration, because so far he has been accommodating to many minorities.
"American Muslims have been left out so far. We hope that he will hire qualified American Muslims to serve in his administration, and there are plenty of talents."
...
"American Muslims feel left out. American Muslims feel [they are] being selectively targeted by certain agencies, and American Muslims should not be deprived from giving legitimate charitable work for needy people, and also American Muslims have to be part of the decision-making process when it comes to domestic policies and foreign policies, especially when it is pertaining to the Muslim world."
Heh.
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LGoPs Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:11:01am |
re: #1427 Hard Right
Right after he has stopped stopped smoking.
I do find it entertaining that there is more of a chance of negative coverage on Obama being a smoker than on whether he's a socialist or not...where the hell have our priorities gone...
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:11:04am |
re: #1367 hermit
HEY! Mazel Tov! I think I'm gonna be 5 on Dec 13th, but I'm not sure - I'm pretty sure it was Dec, 2003 and that the date had a 3 in it, so it may have already passed or still be on it's way! LOL!
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO YOU!
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albusteve Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:11:06am |
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VegasRick Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:11:34am |
re: #1423 tfc3rid
Yanks are also close on Derek Lowe... Although they are right now around 4 years $66 Million... THAT is insane... It's clear they are angry and tossing money out there...
They are lobbying to let them have 10 players on the field and 4 outs per inning.
/
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Fluffy Bunny Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:11:49am |
re: #1413 Fluffy Bunny
Ooops sorry...Hermit that was meant for you!
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:12:13am |
re: #1440 LGoPs
I do find it entertaining that there is more of a chance of negative coverage on Obama being a smoker than on whether he's a socialist or not...where the hell have our priorities gone...
to PC
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:12:14am |
Pressure is mounting on Blago to resign. I think he's not going to go down without a fight, and I'm sure he'll be full of colorful language to make his point.
Impeachment is an option but there are issues as to timing and whether and how the process gets interrupted by the swearing in of the new legislature January 14. Who gets controlling authority - and would the process have to start anew with the new legislature? No one really knows for sure.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:12:27am |
re: #1383 Walter L. Newton
Walter I respect you. You may be right on the facts here but is it the best approach? Think how it looks to see a group of senior people going after the guy. I'd just say wher he was inconsistent and tell him that he'd benefit from clearing it up, then judge his response in my own mind. Contact Charles if you think he is a sock puppet or a troll. Charles can protect his blog.
My unhappiness was due to the demands that he reveal his personal identity or answer questions to prove competency after he declined to do so. Smacked of Charlie Gibson's treatment of Palin.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:12:32am |
re: #1439 Killgore Trout
CAIR demands America surrender in Iraq and Afghanistan, also demands cabinet positions...
American Muslims Hope Obama Will Encourage Tolerance, Respect for Rule of Law
Heh.
Dark_Falcon to CAIR: Drop Dead.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:12:33am |
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hermit Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:12:43am |
re: #1413 Fluffy Bunny
Happy Lizard Birthday...while I was up I made you a cake! Enjoy!
for me...? ONE candle please! THANK YOU!
/say...does anyone know how to get the rest of these shell bits off? I think there's still some stuck on me...
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Occasional Reader Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:12:51am |
re: #1439 Killgore Trout
and American Muslims should not be deprived from giving legitimate charitable work for needy people,
Well, as soon as y'all get around to doing that (as opposed to financing terrorists), please let us know.
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Bumr50 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:12:58am |
re: #1439 Killgore Trout
Like encouraging Muslim-Americans to use those ideas and talents in an effort to stop BLOWING F**KING PEOPLE UP?
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VegasRick Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:13:09am |
re: #1439 Killgore Trout
CAIR demands America surrender in Iraq and Afghanistan, also demands cabinet positions...
American Muslims Hope Obama Will Encourage Tolerance, Respect for Rule of Law
Heh.
Hey cair, fuck you. Thanks.
VegasRick.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:13:13am |
re: #1441 realwest
HEY! Mazel Tov! I think I'm gonna be 5 on Dec 13th, but I'm not sure - I'm pretty sure it was Dec, 2003 and that the date had a 3 in it, so it may have already passed or still be on it's way! LOL!
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO YOU!
That's scary old. Need help across the street?/ : )
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lawhawk Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:13:13am |
re: #1423 tfc3rid
They're overpaying bigtime on CC and on Lowe. I have a real bad feeling about both, as good as they are.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:13:44am |
re: #1394 jaunte
Hey good morning jaunte! Er, good afternoon I mean!
Yikes!
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:13:45am |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:13:57am |
re: #1430 jaunte
I'm wondering if the non-Christian faithful are risking accusations of impropriety if they eat turkey during the Christmas season.
If you are a Jehovah's Witness, and you sit down to ANY MEAL that can be directly related to "celebrating" the season, then yes, they are risking accusations of impropriety.
And this is so of other Christian sects that ignore certain holidays.
My point is I don't find this Islamic position offensive, it seems like a "strawman" issue, just designed to "dump" on Islam.
There are much more important issues with in Islam that should concern us much more than if they wish to ban Christmas among their membership.
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redc1c4 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:13:59am |
re: #1338 shanec99
OJ Simpson was a spoiled brat who had good looks and tremendous talent. He believed he was above the law and could purchase the kind of legal assistance to keep him one step ahead of proscecution.
He is a blight onrace relations inAmerica.
edited for brevity...(although you are correct too %-)
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jaunte Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:14:26am |
re: #1459 realwest
Good morning, realwest. It's still morning somewhere.
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Right mind left Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:14:30am |
OT I think...just logged in.
Anyone hear about the new Energy Czar or know any more about her than being a Clinton EPA Chief?
Ex-EPA Chief Browner Expected To Be Obama Energy Czar-Report
Last update: 12/10/2008 11:51:14 AM
(MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires
December 10, 2008 11:51 ET (16:51 GMT)
(Sorry, no link to my membership scroll of news, it doesn't link well but that above is what it said...)
re: #1365 Kenneth
I'm confused... who's going to sue them? People who have never used any energy?
Maybe the US government...
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Buck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:14:37am |
re: #1355 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
First thing I learned while taking Criminal Justice classes was the worst thing you could possibly do is say anything to a police officer if you get arrested
Agreed... or even questioned by the police. Lying to the police is a crime, even if you are not under oath. Even if it turns out you are innocent of any crime, the police can charge you with lying to them during the interview.
I have never had the experience, but I would be so careful. My first words would be I want to consult a Lawyer.
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:14:42am |
re: #1340 Dark_Falcon
Jane Byrne was the woman who beat Blandic. She had news crews filming her out in the snow attacking Blandic. He never recovered. Ever since, snow removal has been something the machine takes seriously. They still graft off of it, but they make sure the work gets done.
Will never forget being trapped in the apartment by that snowstorm and nothing to do but watch the beautiful Heather Bilandic walking around her warm fire place equipped house in her husband's ad. That ad killed his campaign.
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midwestgak Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:14:46am |
re: #1453 hermit
for me...? ONE candle please! THANK YOU!
/say...does anyone know how to get the rest of these shell bits off? I think there's still some stuck on me...
Sorry. We should have told your earlier ... bathe.
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Dianna Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:14:53am |
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:15:06am |
re: #1397 Dark_Falcon
Then why don't you just report him to Charles or write Charles an e-mail and be done with it.
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gregg Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:15:22am |
re: #1394 jaunte
""Decorating the house, purchasing Christmas trees or having Christmas turkey meals are completely prohibited by Allah."
Did Mohammed establish these restrictions?
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jaunte Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:15:27am |
re: #1461 Walter L. Newton
You're right. I just liked typing Turkey Fatwa.
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DisturbedEma Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:17:03am |
re: #1437 Walter L. Newton
My opinion, welcome to some politicians who got caught. This kind of stuff is not new to 1600 Penn... This is just politics as usual. It's no shock to me.
With all due respect- you have not seen how bad it is here. . .D.C. crooks still have a modicum of fear, and a shred of wanting their reps intact- 2 days ago, this bastard was calling out the Feds during his "show of solidarity" with the union workers being shafted by Windows. . .
His statements about how the MFer dear leader can eff himself about the appointment is, in my opinion, the direct result of what I have seen in my union this week- they have turned on him. . .he did not show them anything upfront. . .he is not living up to his promise to unions in their minds, he has no strong labor, in fact the opposite with Larry, dear leader stepped in it by turning on Chitown labor. . .
This is bare knuckles dirty political tricks. . .not the Beltway corruption you are used to. . .and it will be in your face, no remorse, because, if you were looking for it, you saw how this was gonna go all during the election. . .self imposed blindness was a union aliment. . .
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:17:08am |
re: #1473 jaunte
You're right. I just liked typing Turkey Fatwa.
I never had Turkey Fatwa - is it good with cranberry sauce?
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shanec99 Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:17:16am |
re: #1439 Killgore Trout
CAIR demands America surrender in Iraq and Afghanistan, also demands cabinet positions...
American Muslims Hope Obama Will Encourage Tolerance, Respect for Rule of Law
Heh.
Illegal war in Iraq? Is the guy stupid?
The war in Iraq has UN sanction, it came out of the Iraqi regimes refusal to allow the weapons inspectors to do their job as required after Desert Storm.
The UN mandate ends this December, it is why it was so urgent to get a SOFA to allow our troops to remain there.
Not even the Iraqi government refers to the war as illegal, even though some of them want us to leave.
Where does CAIR get these fools?
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LGoPs Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:17:25am |
re: #1439 Killgore Trout
CAIR demands America surrender in Iraq and Afghanistan, also demands cabinet positions...
American Muslims Hope Obama Will Encourage Tolerance, Respect for Rule of Law
Heh.
CAIR will no doubt happily accept our surrender...
Hey CAIR,
"Nuts"
-America
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Buck Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:17:44am |
re: #1407 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Does the Navy get extra points for taking out a cross-dressing pirate?
No they get investigated. And some politician announces that all they do is "air-raiding villages and killing civilians".
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jaunte Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:17:47am |
re: #1476 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Enriches the soup, I think.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:18:06am |
re: #1429 UFO TOFU
If y'all already have it, it doesn't matter at all is what I'm saying.
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SurferDoc Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:18:13am |
re: #1415 Iron Fist
You mean the Democrats are going to quit blowing smoke out of their ass? That'll never happen.
No, they talk out of their asses and blow smoke up our asses.
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unreconstructed rebel Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:18:21am |
re: #1448 lawhawk
Pressure is mounting on Blago to resign. I think he's not going to go down without a fight, and I'm sure he'll be full of colorful language to make his point.
Impeachment is an option but there are issues as to timing and whether and how the process gets interrupted by the swearing in of the new legislature January 14. Who gets controlling authority - and would the process have to start anew with the new legislature? No one really knows for sure.
I have been a bit curious on this one. Has the charge to select interim senators been placed on the governor by legislative fiat or by the Illinois state constitution? I mean, it's nice for the panicking Durbin the Turbin to say what the legislature should do, but is it that easy?
Any experts here on the topic?
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hermit Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:19:24am |
re: #1468 midwestgak
Sorry. We should have told your earlier ... bathe.
ohhh...yah, that would have been helpful information, fer sure! :P
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FrogMarch Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:20:06am |
re: #1482 SurferDoc
No, they talk out of their asses and blow smoke up our asses.
and then they demand our money.
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:21:07am |
re: #1457 midwestgak
Hey! Fuck you - now give me your arm and make sure to look both ways! LOL!
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lifeofthemind Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:21:08am |
re: #1428 Occasional Reader
Unpossible. They all called in gay today.
You came this close to getting a down ding for that. Bad bad doggie
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realwest Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:24:03am |
Well y'all I gotta run now - hope to see you all down the road!
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jorline Wed, Dec 10, 2008 9:55:41am |
re: #1377 3 wood
Yep, I posted it a little before you.
Think the Lizards are getting a taste of just how corrupt the Chicago Machine is?
Believe me folks, you are just seeing the tip of the ice berg here.
Hey 3 Wood, good to see you. I've always heard about the politics in Chicago, but this is crazy.
Politics in south Texas are controlled by the Democratic Machine as well...fat chance a conservative would ever get elected here. Note Juan Guerra who is now out of office. This doesn't include the numerous sheriffs, judges and local politicians busted for being on the take.
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razorbacker Wed, Dec 10, 2008 10:15:27am |
re: #1461 Walter L. Newton
To back up Walt here, though he seems to need little backup...
a. Turkey is related to Christmas? Who knew.
b. Celebrating Christmas is a relative newcomer to our culture. Many Christians did not, and do not, celebrate Christ's birth. (Let us leave aside for a moment the actual timing of the birth.) The Pilgrims, IIRC, did not celebrate Christmas.
c. While there is a New Testament verse attributed to Christ telling his followers to celebrate his death, there is not one telling his followers to celebrate his birth afaik.
d. I happen to enjoy the idea of Christmas, while deploring the modern commercial aspect of Christmas. It seems to have evolved into a 'make retailer profitability numbers jump' time rather than a time of faith, family, and friends. But for me, any excuse to gather friends and family to eat, drink, and be merry is a good excuse.
e. Islam doesn't need Christmas for an excuse to fatwa. The existence of non-mussulmen is excuse enough.
A little ignorance can save you work, while not necessarily saving you money. My wife emailed and said on second thought, don't try to do any electricity work, let's hire it done. Whew.
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I AM BREITBART!
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Learned Mother of Zion
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