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Overnight Open Thread

Open | Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:05:10 pm PST

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— Dave Barry

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1 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:07:39pm

Might explain a few things downstairs.....

2 Racer X  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:09:12pm

I can see the actual "Overnight Open Thread"

3 gmsc  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:09:15pm

Obama has done more to besmirch the “Office of the President Elect” more than anyone in American history. Discuss.

4 rawmuse  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:09:21pm

Dave Barry! I approve.

5 gmsc  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:09:44pm

re: #3 gmsc

Obama has done more to besmirch the “Office of the President Elect” more than anyone in American history. Discuss.

PIMF

6 Cognito  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:12:14pm

re: #3 gmsc

Obama has done more to besmirch the “Office of the President Elect” more than anyone in American history. Discuss.

Such as?

I'm not saying his hasn't, I'm just looking for a catalogue.

7 rawmuse  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:13:21pm

I am off. One more set to play.

8 pat  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:18:34pm

I see that Mexico has announced a carbon cap. lol. Like no one has been to Mexico. /

9 Cognito  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:20:34pm

All righty then.

Y'all have a good night.

10 pat  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:21:07pm

I always knew I was a few electrons short of a volt. Underpowered.

11 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:21:31pm

re: #6 Cognito

Yeah- I'm still waiting for you to give the name of a President-elect more corrupt than 0bama.

12 gmsc  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:21:32pm

re: #6 Cognito

Such as?

I'm not saying his hasn't, I'm just looking for a catalogue.

For one, he's the only one to have ever claimed the existence of an "Office of the President Elect"!

13 jhn1  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:23:37pm

Wait til they pass the UAW bailout.
And the WTO steps in, on behalf of every nonUS competing auto and truck mfg in the world.
and every nonUS competing auto replacement parts manufacturer (Mopar, Motorcraft, and AC Delco make parts for a wide range of competitor's vehicles)
oh, and every nonUS sales outlet that sells competing product (all types)

It won't be a piddling $15T

and they will be right (per the treaty forbidding subsidies)

14 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:26:14pm

re: #13 jhn1

We can start listening to something the WTO has to say after they have taken care of Airbus.

15 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:27:30pm

Night all. Too little time until the alarm clock tomorrow morning.

16 gmsc  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:28:36pm

re: #15 CyanSnowHawk

Night all. Too little time until the alarm clock tomorrow morning.

Good night!

17 Outrider  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:31:21pm

re: #12 gmsc

For one, he's the only one to have ever claimed the existence of an "Office of the President Elect"!

And had a seal made to put on his podium. And had a special .gov web site as President-elect. Special. As TFK would say. Special. Like that.

18 gmsc  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:33:06pm

re: #17 Outrider

And had a seal made to put on his podium. And had a special .gov web site as President-elect. Special. As TFK would say. Special. Like that.

Maybe his typical white grandmother told him he was special!

19 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:33:36pm

Not seeing any electrons yet. Guess that means I can have one more drink.LOL

How are all of you night owls doing?

20 gmsc  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:35:07pm

re: #19 Pvt Bin Jammin

Not seeing any electrons yet. Guess that means I can have one more drink.LOL

How are all of you night owls doing?

Please! The proper phraseology is "Office of Night Owl-elect"! The royal "we" are doing just fine!

//////////////

21 The Other Les  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:37:00pm

re: #13 jhn1

F*** the UAW.

22 The Other Les  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:37:40pm

re: #20 gmsc

Please! The proper phraseology is "Office of Night Owl-elect"! The royal "we" are doing just fine!

//////////////

We are not amused.

23 gmsc  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:37:51pm

re: #13 jhn1

Wait til they pass the UAW bailout.
And the WTO steps in, on behalf of every nonUS competing auto and truck mfg in the world.
and every nonUS competing auto replacement parts manufacturer (Mopar, Motorcraft, and AC Delco make parts for a wide range of competitor's vehicles)
oh, and every nonUS sales outlet that sells competing product (all types)

It won't be a piddling $15T

and they will be right (per the treaty forbidding subsidies)

So, we may still be able to get our free Gore-approved Pelosi-mobiles?

24 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:37:51pm

re: #20 gmsc

Pardon me, your "highnesses". Glad you're doing royaly well.

25 Outrider  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:38:24pm

re: #18 gmsc

Maybe his typical white grandmother told him he was special!

eh. She was probably watching the Jerry Lewis telethon at the time.

26 gmsc  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:39:35pm

re: #22 The Other Les

We are not amused.

re: #24 Pvt Bin Jammin

Pardon me, your "highnesses". Glad you're doing royaly well.

Quick reminder: The slashies at the end of a message communicate I'm being facetious. The more slashies, the less seriously you should take the message itself.

27 Outrider  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:40:35pm

re: #22 The Other Les

We are not amused.

I, on the other hand, am chortling over the "we are not amused"

28 The Other Les  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:42:51pm

re: #26 gmsc

Quick reminder: The slashies at the end of a message communicate I'm being facetious. The more slashies, the less seriously you should take the message itself.

Must remember to use quotation marks or slashes.

29 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:42:53pm

re: #26 gmsc

I wasn't criticizing, forgot my ////////.
Glad your non- royal self is doing well as well. LOL

Slow here tonight.

30 gmsc  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:44:17pm

re: #29 Pvt Bin Jammin

I wasn't criticizing, forgot my ////////.
Glad your non- royal self is doing well as well. LOL

Slow here tonight.

Less than 40 messages in, and I'm already schizophrenic!
;)

Yeah, it is slow. Maybe everyone is celebrating the busting of the auto bailout deal!

31 winston06  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:50:17pm

good nite folks

32 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:50:41pm

re: #30 gmsc

Less than 40 messages in, and I'm already schizophrenic!
;)

Yeah, it is slow. Maybe everyone is celebrating the busting of the auto bailout deal!

Maybe so. I was kinda glad about it. Problem is the next bailout proposal will probably be a sweeter deal than this, just like the big bail out. How much more of these bailouts can we take? If we could only break the union I think then it would be okay but it's not going to happen.

My poor Dad was a small town GM dealer. Worked like a dog, missed paydays, etc. Those union a**holes made a heck of a lot more than he did.

33 gmsc  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:56:28pm

re: #32 Pvt Bin Jammin

Maybe so. I was kinda glad about it. Problem is the next bailout proposal will probably be a sweeter deal than this, just like the big bail out. How much more of these bailouts can we take? If we could only break the union I think then it would be okay but it's not going to happen.

My poor Dad was a small town GM dealer. Worked like a dog, missed paydays, etc. Those union a**holes made a heck of a lot more than he did.

All we can do is take it one step at a time. The Democrats don't have a filibuster-proof majority, so those who have Republican senators can push them to filibuster.

34 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Dec 11, 2008 11:59:08pm

re: #33 gmsc

Thank God we don't yet have a filibuster proof congress.

35 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:00:24am

re: #34 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thank God we don't yet have a filibuster proof congress.

...and won't until at least through the 2010 election.

Being in Vegas, I'll do my part to get rid of Reid! (He's up for re-election in 2010).

36 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:09:31am

re: #35 gmsc

I thought you might be from Vegas. I grew up in "enrohtwaH" LOL That's where my dad had his business. It wasn't too bad in the beginning with all of the military there. He sold the Pontiac GTO's to the military, the Cadillacs to the casino bigwigs and Buicks to most of the town folks.

I cant stand Harry Reid. Met him once at a funeral for my dear republican friend, Jack, who was the owner/editor of our local newspaper. I was insulted that he was even there. His column was called "Jasper". Jack/Jasper was well-loved by Nevada republicans. He had the dirt on quite a few people in the state. I hope his daughters didn't throw away his files.

37 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:10:13am

**Crickets chirping**


HELLO?
Hello?
hello?

38 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:11:31am

Hooray....I can drink legally!

39 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:11:57am

re: #38 TheMatrix31

Hooray....I can drink legally!

Happy Birthday, Matrix!

You can also gamble - come visit Vegas!

40 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:13:01am

re: #38 TheMatrix31

Kinda loses it's novelty after the first few weeks....

/but think of all the electrons you can count!

41 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:13:20am

re: #36 Pvt Bin Jammin

I thought you might be from Vegas. I grew up in "enrohtwaH" LOL That's where my dad had his business. It wasn't too bad in the beginning with all of the military there. He sold the Pontiac GTO's to the military, the Cadillacs to the casino bigwigs and Buicks to most of the town folks.

I cant stand Harry Reid. Met him once at a funeral for my dear republican friend, Jack, who was the owner/editor of our local newspaper. I was insulted that he was even there. His column was called "Jasper". Jack/Jasper was well-loved by Nevada republicans. He had the dirt on quite a few people in the state. I hope his daughters didn't throw away his files.

I never tagged him for someone who understood other people's sensibilities.

42 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:13:28am

re: #39 gmsc

Happy Birthday, Matrix!

You can also gamble - come visit Vegas!

I might in a couple of weeks actually. I was thinking of coming this weekend but a lot of my buddies still have their finals and whatnot.

43 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:14:23am

re: #36 Pvt Bin Jammin


Sounds like quite an inheritance....

Not sure what I'd do with that sort of info if that were dropped into my lap.

44 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:15:31am

re: #38 TheMatrix31

Happy Birthday! Woo Hoo.

45 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:16:23am

re: #42 TheMatrix31

I might in a couple of weeks actually. I was thinking of coming this weekend but a lot of my buddies still have their finals and whatnot.

I like what some of the pit bosses say about IDing people: "When they're under 21, they behave like they hope their fake ID will pass muster. When they're over 21, they have trouble finding their ID, but have no problem with you asking. When they're exactly 21, they're showing their ID to total strangers the second they step into the casinos!"

46 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:17:26am

re: #45 gmsc

I like what some of the pit bosses say about IDing people: "When they're under 21, they behave like they hope their fake ID will pass muster. When they're over 21, they have trouble finding their ID, but have no problem with you asking. When they're exactly 21, they're showing their ID to total strangers the second they step into the casinos!"

LOL. That's hilarious. I figure I'll be annoyed with everyone asking me constantly.

47 shipper  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:18:01am

I'd humbly like to announce that today I independently coined the term "Preselect Obama(TM)" ("preselected" by the media, of course).

If anyone is aware of another use of this term out there, feel free to let me know. I promise I haven't seen it elsewhere.

See my post on armchairgov.com. It's not my blog but I am a contributor. We are looking for more contributors to be Armchair Cabinet Members, by the way.

48 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:19:29am

re: #38 TheMatrix31

Hooray....I can drink legally!

As littleoldlady put it last night . . . Happy Birthday, Matrix!

49 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:21:37am

re: #38 TheMatrix31

Hooray....I can drink legally!

Happy Birthday Matrix.

50 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:22:26am

re: #43 Fenway_Nation

I actually told him if the girls didn't want them I'd love to take them. LOL I might be in hiding now, if I had them. We also were friends with the sheriff, and his sons, who was elected many times, I'd say, through the fifties, sixties and part of the seventies. (We had people coming into town with submachine guns when I was a teenager in the sixties and I didn't know it until later. ) He was a member of some law enforcement committee on organized crime.. OMG He has also passed away but he told me a few things and his kids have told me more.

51 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:27:10am

re: #48 gmsc

re: #49 Erik The Red

Happy Birthday Matrix.

As littleoldlady put it last night . . . Happy Birthday, Matrix!

Thanks guys! Yum, Marilyn Monroe.

52 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:28:28am

re: #51 TheMatrix31

re: #49 Erik The Red

Thanks guys! Yum, Marilyn Monroe.

A treat for you, and helps cheer us up after the loss of Bettie Page yesterday.

53 Steffan  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:30:09am

re: #38 TheMatrix31

As Sheriff John used to sing:

Put another candle on my birthday cake,
We're gonna bake a birthday cake.
Put another candle on my birthday cake,
I'm another year old to-day.
I'm going to have a party with my birthday cake,
C'mon and taste some birthday cake.
Put another candle on my birthday cake,
I'm another year old to-day.
We'll have some pie and sandwiches, and chocolate ice cream too.
We'll sing and play the day away, and one more thing I'm gonna do ...
I'll blow out the candles on my birthday cake,
And when I do, a wish I'll make!
Put another candle on my birthday cake,
I'm another year old to-day.

I grew up watching him.

54 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:30:26am

re: #52 gmsc

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

55 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:31:33am

Hmm...I didn't know she ended up passing away. That's sad!

56 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:31:37am

*Gasp*

OOOOOoooooooooooooo...........!

57 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:34:25am

I was sad to hear about Bettie Page. All the GI's loved her back in the day. At least it seems she had a long life. RIP Bettie.

58 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:38:32am

This was sent to me in an e-mail recently. It's a slow night, so I figured this would perk up the conversation:

When in England , at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of empire building' by George Bush.

He answered by saying, 'Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return.'

You could have heard a pin drop.
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break one of the French engineers came back into the room saying 'Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intended to do, bomb them?'

A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: 'Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck.

We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?'

You could have heard a pin drop

-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included Admirals from the U.S. , English, Canadian, Australian and French Navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large group of Officers that included personnel from most of those countries. Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French admiral suddenly complained that, 'whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English.' He then asked, 'Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than speaking French?'

Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied 'Maybe it's because the Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't have to speak German.'

You could have heard a pin drop.

-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

AND THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE...

Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane. At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his carry on.

'You have been to France before, monsieur?' the customs officer asked sarcastically.

Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously ..

'Then you should know enough to have your passport ready.'

The American said, 'The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it.'

'Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on arrival in France !'

The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he quietly explained.

'Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in '44 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchmen to show a passport to.'

You could have heard a pin drop.

-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

59 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:39:52am

I just heard about Bettie Paige courtesey of #52 (I knew she was hospitalized earlier....

Bettie Paige set the standard that I compare most pop-culture beauties to. Needless to say, this latest batch of gutter skanks, spoiled whores and f*cked up headcases falls woefully short of that standard.

Truly the end of an era...

60 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:42:07am

re: #59 Fenway_Nation

I just heard about Bettie Paige courtesey of #52 (I knew she was hospitalized earlier....

Bettie Paige set the standard that I compare most pop-culture beauties to. Needless to say, this latest batch of gutter skanks, spoiled whores and f*cked up headcases falls woefully short of that standard.

Truly the end of an era...

That's because Bettie was beautiful inside, beautiful in attitude AND beautiful in looks!

The ones these days barely achieve it in looks!

61 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:45:46am

I just watched this and am laughing my ass off.

Batman, Turkey

62 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:47:31am

re: #6 Cognito

Such as?

I'm not saying his hasn't, I'm just looking for a catalogue.

use a colonoscopy set: you'll be able to see where you head is and video tape it too.

63 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:49:15am

re: #61 TheMatrix31

I just watched this and am laughing my ass off.

Batman, Turkey

That's great! Updinged and favorited!

64 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:49:34am

re: #58 gmsc

I put that in my favorites and I wish I could give it more than one plus.

I'd better fade out of LGF now. I was tired when I started posting. LOL I think I see an electron, not sure though.

PS Get rid of Harry.

65 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:50:13am

re: #62 redc1c4

use a colonoscopy set: you'll be able to see where you head is and video tape it too.

Come on red tell us how you really feel/

66 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:51:06am

re: #62 redc1c4

use a colonoscopy set: you'll be able to see where you head is and video tape it too.

LMAO.

67 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:55:24am

re: #64 Pvt Bin Jammin

I put that in my favorites and I wish I could give it more than one plus.

I'd better fade out of LGF now. I was tired when I started posting. LOL I think I see an electron, not sure though.

PS Get rid of Harry.

Thanks. Good night, and I'll do my part to get rid of him!

68 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:55:28am

re: #25 Outrider

if you read this, and you have not already updinged #25, please do so.

69 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 12:55:50am

re: #62 redc1c4

use a colonoscopy set: you'll be able to see where you head is and video tape it too.

Welcome, red!

70 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:00:39am

re: #65 Erik The Red

Come on red tell us how you really feel/

sorry: i battle carry Sabot, so you get what you get.

/like Canister would be any prettier at this range..... %-)

71 SurferDoc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:02:16am

re: #17 Outrider

And had a seal made to put on his podium. And had a special .gov web site as President-elect. Special. As TFK would say. Special. Like that.

What a dick. Who the hell does stuff like that?

72 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:02:57am

re: #63 gmsc

I just remembered a little old book , and I think it is called the "Green Felt Jungle". It is suppossdly based on fact.

73 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:04:58am

re: #71 SurferDoc

Did he really say something about 'rebooting' America's image in the world/M.E.?

/F*cking community organizers...

74 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:05:37am

re: #71 SurferDoc

What a dick. Who the hell does stuff like that?

a dick.....

75 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:06:24am

re: #69 gmsc

Welcome, red!

/single malt all around!

76 SurferDoc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:06:35am

I'd reboot America's image, too. I'd put our boot up their asses.

77 mean Gene  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:08:22am

Fox News broke a story that Rahm Emanuel had been taped talking to Gov. Blagojevich about 0bama's replacement.
Uh oh.
That explains all the careful parsing by ''the 0ne.''
Link to video:
[Link: www.myfoxchicago.com...]

78 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:09:47am

re: #76 SurferDoc

I'd reboot America's image, too. I'd put our boot up their asses.

WHOOOOOAHHHHHHHHH!

(and after that we'd kick ass? %-)

79 SurferDoc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:13:01am

Every time I read or hear about "our image arboad" or "world opinion" I want the grab the guy by the neck and shake him until the shit falls out of his head.

80 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:14:15am

re: #72 Pvt Bin Jammin

I just remembered a little old book , and I think it is called the "Green Felt Jungle". It is suppossdly based on fact.

It would have to be. You really can't make stuff up about Las Vegas.

81 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:14:50am

Evening all. Just checking in, don't know how long I will last. I am truly in grief at the knowledge of Betti Page passing, I support all our troops in their duty. And of course laughing my ass off at the antics in Chicago. Have I missed anything?

/raises single malt in toast to the best pin up girl ever!

82 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:17:46am

re: #81 BlueCanuck

raises single malt in toast to the best pin up girl ever!

I'll drink to that!

83 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:18:08am

re: #81 BlueCanuck

Evening all. Just checking in, don't know how long I will last. I am truly in grief at the knowledge of Betti Page passing, I support all our troops in their duty. And of course laughing my ass off at the antics in Chicago. Have I missed anything?

/raises single malt in toast to the best pin up girl ever!

Click on #61, and I'd say you're pretty well caught up!

84 Raven1  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:20:10am

Speaking of electricity, We are having a severe ice storm here in central Massachusetts. The sound of crashing tree limbs roused me from slumber. Worcester Airport, about a mile from me has lost electricity, as have 73 thousand residents of central Massachusetts. I hope my tiny particle electrons are not stopped, then I would not be able to read the best blog on the internet!

85 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:22:49am

re: #79 SurferDoc

Every time I read or hear about "our image arboad" or "world opinion" I want the grab the guy by the neck and shake him until the shit falls out of his head.

countries don't have friends: they have intersts....

i don't want America to be loved so much as it is to be held in awe.

we need to be the shining city on the hill that everyone knows they can get to, should they wish, and where they will always be welcome to join and embrace the push to tomorrow, but that they NEVER want to fuck with, no matter how strident their death wish, because we will do a serious biblical damn damn on their heads if they are *that* stupid.

86 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:25:18am

re: #84 Raven1

Speaking of electricity, We are having a severe ice storm here in central Massachusetts. The sound of crashing tree limbs roused me from slumber. Worcester Airport, about a mile from me has lost electricity, as have 73 thousand residents of central Massachusetts. I hope my tiny particle electrons are not stopped, then I would not be able to read the best blog on the internet!

On a slightly smaller scale, earlier this week here in Vegas, the city was doing some sewer repairs right near the DMV (insert joke here).

At one point, they were doing some cutting, and they cut through some wires! The wires were phone and high-speed data wires! Not only did 20,000 people lose phone service, but the DMV had to shut down for 3 days because their computers had no way to connect with the state system for filing, verification, and so on!

87 SurferDoc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:27:18am

re: #85 redc1c4

countries don't have friends: they have intersts....

i don't want America to be loved so much as it is to be held in awe.

we need to be the shining city on the hill that everyone knows they can get to, should they wish, and where they will always be welcome to join and embrace the push to tomorrow, but that they NEVER want to fuck with, no matter how strident their death wish, because we will do a serious biblical damn damn on their heads if they are *that* stupid.

Amen and BOOM!

88 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:27:57am

re: #83 gmsc

Well I will say this much about turks, they are better soldiers than greeks. But I will still be on the greeks side due to the way things are now going over there.

/but they brew a mean beer.
//used to call it bonus beer.

89 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:29:10am

re: #85 redc1c4

Alas, I only have but one ding to give.

/and you got it. HoooRAhhh

91 Crux Australis  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:31:14am

re: #85 redc1c4

countries don't have friends: they have intersts....

i don't want America to be loved so much as it is to be held in awe.

we need to be the shining city on the hill that everyone knows they can get to, should they wish, and where they will always be welcome to join and embrace the push to tomorrow, but that they NEVER want to fuck with, no matter how strident their death wish, because we will do a serious biblical damn damn on their heads if they are *that* stupid.

Australia has no better friend in the world than the US. Ignore these lefty loonies.

92 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:33:23am

re: #91 Crux Australis

Australia has no better friend in the world than the US. Ignore these lefty loonies.

It's what we do best.....

/either that or belittle them

93 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:35:11am

re: #90 gmsc

Here's the new logo for those auto companies requesting a bailout!

I like this on also.The Bailout

94 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:35:22am

re: #91 Crux Australis

Australia has no better friend in the world than the US. Ignore these lefty loonies.

it's us against them. po' them..... should we give a warning? %-)

95 Raven1  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:35:26am

re: #86 gmsc

I'm sure the DMV workers enjoyed the time off, but I wouldn't want to have to wait in those lines when they reopened!

96 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:37:34am

re: #93 Erik The Red

I like this on also.The Bailout

I can just imagine a government-mandated, politically correct car that they'd be required to make if they did get the bailout - The Fedsel!

97 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:37:41am

re: #94 redc1c4

it's us against them. po' them..... should we give a warning? %-)

Hell no. Did they ever give us one?

98 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:39:28am

re: #95 Raven1

I'm sure the DMV workers enjoyed the time off, but I wouldn't want to have to wait in those lines when they reopened!

The lines were restored about 15 minutes before their normal closing time. So, not only do they not open on a Friday, they have to re-open on a Saturday!

You've got the long lines of a regular Saturday, plus lines from 3 days worth of delayed people!

99 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:40:05am

re: #93 Erik The Red

I like this on also.The Bailout

even better The Pelosi GT!

100 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:41:08am

I can't make it another 20 minutes for fruitcup, so I'm going to head off to sleep now.

If newly-21 birthday lizard Matrix is still here, give my fruitcup to him as a b-day present!

101 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:41:47am

re: #100 gmsc


With the candles and everything?

102 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:42:05am

re: #98 gmsc

The lines were restored about 15 minutes before their normal closing time. So, not only do they not open on a Friday, they have to re-open on a Saturday!

You've got the long lines of a regular Saturday, plus lines from 3 days worth of delayed people!

here in the PRC, at least most of your stuff can be done at the Auto Club....

/makes every dime of the membership worthwhile for that alone.

103 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:42:15am

re: #101 Fenway_Nation

With the candles and everything?

And extra red enhancements.

104 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:42:51am

re: #100 gmsc

I can't make it another 20 minutes for fruitcup, so I'm going to head off to sleep now.

If newly-21 birthday lizard Matrix is still here, give my fruitcup to him as a b-day present!

I'm still here. Gracious you are! Good night and thanks for the wishes.

105 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:43:04am

re: #100 gmsc

I can't make it another 20 minutes for fruitcup, so I'm going to head off to sleep now.

If newly-21 birthday lizard Matrix is still here, give my fruitcup to him as a b-day present!

we'll dose it so he never forgets/remembers........

/all on you. %-)

106 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:43:09am

re: #101 Fenway_Nation

With the candles and everything?

Yes . . .

re: #103 BlueCanuck

And extra red enhancements.

. . . and yes!


Good night, all! Enjoy the big 21, Matrix!

107 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:45:39am

re: #104 TheMatrix31

I'm still here. Gracious you are! Good night and thanks for the wishes.

lucky you... i'm pretty sure i had a good time on my 21st.....

or so i was told.

/white smoke

108 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:45:44am

re: #104 TheMatrix31

Ah, you poor young soul. If you just knew what you were in for. . . . .


/like red, experienced.

109 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:46:17am

re: #107 redc1c4

I spent my 21st confined to barracks. Bastards. . . . .

110 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:48:50am

re: #109 BlueCanuck

I spent my 21st confined to barracks. Bastards. . . . .

And I'm going to spend my 21st, 22nd, 23rd, and 24th confined to Barack.

111 rightside  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:50:05am

Morning Lizards!

112 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:51:25am

re: #110 TheMatrix31

Kudoos, well played young one.

/crap, just realized that you were still in diapers way back when.

113 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:54:24am

re: #112 BlueCanuck

Kudoos, well played young one.

/crap, just realized that you were still in diapers way back when.

I'm out there, Jerry!

114 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:55:55am

re: #110 TheMatrix31

And I'm going to spend my 21st, 22nd, 23rd, and 24th confined to Barack.

sucks to be us...... DRINK!

115 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:56:57am

Happy Birthday Matrix!

116 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:57:41am

re: #112 BlueCanuck

Kudoos, well played young one.

/crap, just realized that you were still in diapers way back when.

he wasn't even inflicted as far back as i'm looking, grasshopper.

/fngs..... %-)

117 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 1:58:47am

re: #115 Sharmuta

Happy Birthday Matrix!

you have to give him a spanking....

/in the Storm Trooper boots

118 littleoldlady  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™ and Happy Birthday, Matrix! :-)

Fruitcup (and a side of birthday cake!) is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

119 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:00:10am

Morning lol. Thanks for fruitcup.

120 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:00:39am

Mmmm.....fruitcup!

121 Panhandler  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:01:20am

IZ fruitcup and cake! Yay! Tank yew lol. {lol}

122 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:01:24am

We ♥ Fruitcup!

123 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:01:51am

Wooo hooo, fruitcup and cake. It is a good day. Good morning littleoldlady.

124 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:02:08am

re: #118 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™ and Happy Birthday, Matrix! :-)

Fruitcup (and a side of birthday cake!) is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

more stuff to ferment! W00000000000000000000000o0T!1!

125 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:02:29am

re: #115 Sharmuta

Happy Birthday Matrix!

Thanks! re: #117 redc1c4

you have to give him a spanking....

/in the Storm Trooper boots

Hey hey....I ain't into that kinky stuff!

re: #118 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™ and Happy Birthday, Matrix! :-)

Fruitcup (and a side of birthday cake!) is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

Wow, I feel special. Thanks :)

126 littleoldlady  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:03:27am

Erik! :-) Fenway! BlueCanuck! :-) Sharmuta! :-) red! :-) rightside! :-) Panhandler! :-)

... I'm afraid this is a drive-by fruiting (and caking) :-(

127 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:03:32am

re: #116 redc1c4

I may be an FNG to you, but everyone was an FNG to some one.

/toast

128 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:03:42am

Does any know what the quickest and fewest posts someone has gotten to-1000 karma? Only asking because Fiat_lux has got to be close.

129 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:04:20am

re: #117 redc1c4

you have to give him a spanking....

/in the Storm Trooper boots

I be bizee spankin trollz downstairz

130 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:04:27am

re: #126 littleoldlady

No prob, I am soon to bed myself.

/drivebys are better then nothing

131 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:04:33am

Karma: -866

fiat_lux

(Logged in)
Registered since: Nov 21, 2008 at 5:16 pm
No. of comments posted: 367
No. of links posted: 0

132 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:04:52am

re: #126 littleoldlady

Aww....you're not gonna stick around for some of my witty banter?

/I wouldn't either.

133 Panhandler  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:05:28am

re: #125 TheMatrix31
Hey hey....I ain't into that kinky stuff!

You haven't seen the boots, they special, for a special guy.

134 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:05:33am

re: #128 Erik The Red

Well none I know that weren't banned. . . . . . .

/just doesn't know when to shut up

135 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:06:47am

re: #133 Panhandler

Hey hey....I ain't into that kinky stuff!

You haven't seen the boots, they special, for a special guy.

Are they made for walkin?

136 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:09:07am

re: #134 BlueCanuck

Well none I know that weren't banned. . . . . . .

/just doesn't know when to shut up

He was fun at first but now it's the same rehashed bullshit. Salamantis and Sharmuta do a great job on him. Chew toy for me is old. Time maybe for him just to go away.

137 rightside  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:09:19am

{lol} thanks as always!

138 Panhandler  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:10:22am

re: #135 TheMatrix31

Are they made for walkin?

You betcha.

139 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:10:43am

re: #127 BlueCanuck

I may be an FNG to you, but everyone was an FNG to some one.

/toast

and yet the Infantry is eternal.....

"Shies the name, Shines the name, of Rodger Young..."

140 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:12:12am

re: #139 redc1c4

and yet the Infantry is eternal.....

"Shies the name, Shines the name, of Rodger Young..."

Come on you apes, do you want to live forever?

/some sargeant WW1

141 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:12:44am

And the book was done a major disservice by the movie.

142 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:12:50am

re: #136 Erik The Red


A thought just occured to me with you being in South Africa and all.....

Does an Executive Outcomes/Sandline Int'l-type outfit have anything resembling a Navy? Maybe they could be hired to clean up some areas along the Somali coast.....

/standard mercenaries/Private Military Contractors are eeeeeeevil disclaimer.

143 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:13:26am

re: #125 TheMatrix31

Wow, I feel special. Thanks :)

you have to give him a spanking....

/in the Storm Trooper boots

Hey hey....I ain't into that kinky stuff!

yes you are, you're just not old enough to know it yet.....

consider this part of the advanced course.

/damn newbies

144 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:14:15am

re: #140 BlueCanuck

Come on you apes, do you want to live forever?

/some sargeant WW1 10,000 BC

145 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:15:42am

re: #142 Fenway_Nation

A thought just occured to me with you being in South Africa and all.....

Does an Executive Outcomes/Sandline Int'l-type outfit have anything resembling a Navy? Maybe they could be hired to clean up some areas along the Somali coast.....

/standard mercenaries/Private Military Contractors are eeeeeeevil disclaimer.

given the recent legal environment, who would want to take on the contract, knowing full well your patrons would declare you pirates at any time?

146 Panhandler  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:16:44am

re: #144 redc1c4
Great, red is trying to get another ID thread going.

147 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:17:10am

re: #135 TheMatrix31

Are they made for walkin?

They're made for ass kicking. And Birthday Spankings.

148 hans ze beeman  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:17:59am

What's wrong with Britain? School choir forced to pull out of Christmas concert as carols were 'too religious'

This winter festival frenzy is not only ludicrous but dangerous.

149 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:18:17am

re: #146 Panhandler

Nah, it's standard military knowledge. All sargeants/D.I.s aren't born, they're hatched.

150 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:19:03am

re: #147 Sharmuta

They're made for ass kicking. And Birthday Spankings.

and lots of KoolWhip!

/chocolate sauce is optional.

151 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:20:50am

re: #142 Fenway_Nation

A thought just occured to me with you being in South Africa and all.....

Does an Executive Outcomes/Sandline Int'l-type outfit have anything resembling a Navy? Maybe they could be hired to clean up some areas along the Somali coast.....

/standard mercenaries/Private Military Contractors are eeeeeeevil disclaimer.

iirc any S.African citizen found to be a member of any mercenary/para military organization is seen has having committed treason. So if there is it is very huss huss and would not be based here.

152 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:20:52am

re: #149 BlueCanuck

Nah, it's standard military knowledge. All sargeants/D.I.s aren't born, they'rehatched inflicted.

153 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:22:00am

re: #151 Erik The Red

iirc any S.African citizen found to be a member of any mercenary/para military organization is seen has having committed treason. So if there is it is very huss huss and would not be based here.

given the local history, that isn't surprising......

154 Panhandler  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:22:45am

re: #149 BlueCanuck

Nah, it's standard military knowledge. All sargeants/D.I.s aren't born, they're hatched.

I withdraw my statement then, although I had always thought they were cloned from a Borg template.

155 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:23:47am

re: #150 redc1c4

and lots of KoolWhip!

/chocolate sauce is optional.

Nothin' wrong with whipped cream!

156 BlueCanuck  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:25:51am

Well it's been a slice. See ya all later. And best wishes Matrix. Don't do anything that red wouldn't.

/and yeah, that leaves the field wide open.
//white smoke

157 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:27:31am

re: #155 TheMatrix31

Nothin' wrong with whipped cream!

Wrong!

158 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:27:46am

Bye, Blue!

159 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:28:23am

re: #155 TheMatrix31

Nothin' wrong with whipped cream!

just didn't think you youngin's even knew what that was......

/tezach me to try & be hip. %-)

160 Panhandler  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:28:29am

re: #155 TheMatrix31

Nothin' wrong with whipped cream!

Hmmm, Likes whipped cream, doesn't like boots, ambivalent about chocolate sauce. Finals really got to you didn't they?

161 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:32:28am

re: #151 Erik The Red

Given South Africa's recent history, I'm not surprised that there'd be some moral objection to mercenaries moving into soverign nations and taking over- but the cynic in me also wonders how much of that was a sort of safety mechanism for the likes of Cholera....what Cholera? Robert Mugabe.

Also, given some of South Africa's more recent post-Apartheid past I gotta wonder who would be in more trouble if caught serving in a foreign (or private) armed group....the Afrikaaner who went to Sierra Leone and fought some teen-age rebels for some quick cash or the Cape Malay who decides to join the Taliban and try and drive the infidels out of Afghanistan.

162 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:35:35am

re: #160 Panhandler

Hmmm, Likes whipped cream, doesn't like boots, ambivalent about chocolate sauce. Finals really got to you didn't they?

LOL. I'm not a chocolate guy. Sacrilege, I know.

Finals got to me in that now that they're over, my brain is completely dead.

163 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:37:03am

re: #161 Fenway_Nation

Given South Africa's recent history, I'm not surprised that there'd be some moral objection to mercenaries moving into soverign nations and taking over- but the cynic in me also wonders how much of that was a sort of safety mechanism for the likes of Cholera....what Cholera? Robert Mugabe.

Also, given some of South Africa's more recent post-Apartheid past I gotta wonder who would be in more trouble if caught serving in a foreign (or private) armed group....the Afrikaaner who went to Sierra Leone and fought some teen-age rebels for some quick cash or the Cape Malay who decides to join the Taliban and try and drive the infidels out of Afghanistan.

You have hit that on the head. It was meant for the Afrikaaner's and anyone that was in the ols S.A army.

164 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:39:12am

re: #163 Erik The Red

What's your connection with S.Africa? Or do I need to ask. Lizards are the most informed bunch of reptiles that I have come across.

165 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:39:46am

re: #164 Erik The Red

What's your connection with S.Africa? Or do I need to ask. Lizards are the most informed bunch of reptiles that I have come across.

Post meant for you Fenway.

166 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:40:03am

hasta, y'all......

l*4

167 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:40:34am

re: #166 redc1c4

hasta, y'all......

l*4

later red.

168 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:42:23am

re: #163 Erik The Red

I suspect alot of seemingly benign or conciliatory legislation written up by the ANC over the last 15 years is A) rather punitive upon closer examination and B) directed primarily at Afrikaaners (and probably blacks in other political parties).....

169 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:50:05am

re: #164 Erik The Red

Not much, really. Never set foot in SA, but I like to keep myself informed on the history of any country I'm seriously interested in visiting....just in case it will come in handy.

/There's also the whole Blue Train deal.

170 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:52:55am

re: #168 Fenway_Nation

I suspect alot of seemingly benign or conciliatory legislation written up by the ANC over the last 15 years is A) rather punitive upon closer examination and B) directed primarily at Afrikaner's (and probably blacks in other political parties).....

Both correct. The whites in this country represent such a small minority that almost all legislation that has been passes since 1994 has been made to "right the wrongs of the past" and not for what is right and just to make S.Africa a true power house of Africa. One of the main reasons I am returning next year is I do not see this country rising above the hated that exists between black and white and the total entitlement factor that the majority of the population have. It can not be met. Unknown future doesn't look good for my young girls.

171 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:56:20am

Colin Powell Speaks Out for the GOPMorning Lizards

Now Colin Powell thinks we are Neanderthals if we listen to Limbaugh?

172 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:57:53am

Wow that linking thing looks messy---

First time I linked ,next time it won't look so obvious---

173 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:57:54am

re: #170 Erik The Red

That really is too bad. Once SA is gone, I guess you can pretty much write off the whole continent (most have already).

174 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:07:13am

Good Morning LGF.
Watch for this MSM Headline:
UAW and GOP conspire to bring down GM and Chrysler.
////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////////

175 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:07:49am

Morning all.
Cholesterol overload. If it were made with turkey bacon, would it be kosher?

176 opnion  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:10:29am

Good morning Lizard Nation.

177 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:12:56am

Drop, baby, drop!

/Spot price for gold is down about $10 an ounce this morning- other commodities look like they're following suit. Otherwise it sounds like I'm rooting for a little flare off of Pedroia's bat to find that little 'Bermuda Triangle' in the outfied at Fenway.

178 opnion  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:16:40am

re: #171 summergurl

Colin Powell Speaks Out for the GOPMorning Lizards

Now Colin Powell thinks we are Neanderthals if we listen to Limbaugh?

Powell really just needs to declare himself a Democrat & cease advising the Republican Party. He deserted the Party for Obama, which waas a clear racial preference. He knows a lot about Limbaugh progrm content , so either he himself listens or he is speculating.

179 Salamantis  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:20:23am

I'm really proud of this post. It took me some time and effort to compose it. Can y'all please give it a look-see?

It's on the previous EVO thread.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

180 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:33:46am

re: #173 Fenway_Nation

TIA.

181 Erik The Red  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:34:57am

re: #180 Bumr50

TIA.

? Bumr

182 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:37:02am

re: #178 opnion

Do you think a career without any private sector experience plays into this?

If all you know is public service, it's easy to view things like this. That's another palpable danger of Obama's "public service" agenda.

183 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:38:00am

re: #181 Erik The Red

This Is Africa. It was a line borrowed from the movie "Blood Diamonds," expressing the chaos on the continent.

184 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:39:39am

re: #172 summergurl

Yeah, I did the same thing. Just highlight a linking word.

185 opnion  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:44:02am

re: #182 Bumr50

Do you think a career without any private sector experience plays into this?

If all you know is public service, it's easy to view things like this. That's another palpable danger of Obama's "public service" agenda.


That's an interesting observation & could have something to do with Powell's views. But as a military man , he understands loyalty.
Nobody expects "blind" loyalty, but the Republican party today is not very different than the one he served in. The only real difference that I can see is that the Democrat nominee was more racially attractive to him & he is now rationalizing.

186 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:46:11am

re: #179 Salamantis

Evolutionary theorists would approve of none of this. They would say to let them all be born, and cared for, and to let environmental selection sort them out, and that would be best for the species as a whole.

Why would a scientist take any such positions, unless he/she had an over-arching political, economic, racial or religious agenda?

187 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:52:23am

Specter voted for the bailout. I don't know what's worse, having him in there and waiting for him to leave or thinking about Chris Matthews in his place.

I hate PA.

188 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:56:24am

re: #187 Bumr50

Specter voted for the bailout. I don't know what's worse, having him in there and waiting for him to leave or thinking about Chris Matthews in his place.

I hate PA.

Hey you could be living in NJ! And take it from one who does, it ain't no garden state?

189 opnion  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:56:37am

FNC is now talking about how the Left thinks that Caroline Kennedy is fit to be a U.S Senator while they thought that a sitting Governor, Sarah Palin did not have enough experience to be VP.

190 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:57:14am

re: #189 opnion

FNC is now talking about how the Left thinks that Caroline Kennedy is fit to be a U.S Senator while they thought that a sitting Governor, Sarah Palin did not have enough experience to be VP.

Well Palin didn't come from Royal Blood after all?
/

191 opnion  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:57:41am

re: #188 Nevergiveup

Hey you could be living in NJ! And take it from one who does, it ain't no garden state?

Move to Illinois, our politics are clean.

192 opnion  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:58:22am

re: #190 Nevergiveup

Well Palin didn't come from Royal Blood after all?
/

And that apparently makes all the difference.

193 NYCHardhat  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 3:59:51am

re: #188 Nevergiveup

Hey you could be living in NJ! And take it from one who does, it ain't no garden state?

Which part may I ask? I'm in a relatively conservative area in central NJ.

194 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:00:05am

Final roll call vote on the UAW bailout
By Michelle Malkin • December 12, 2008 12:11 AM

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

The usual list of Republican suspects who did vote for it!

195 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:00:33am

re: #193 NYCHardhat

Which part may I ask? I'm in a relatively conservative area in central NJ.

Bergen County.

196 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:00:36am

Meanwhile, over at Politico, the GOP continues it's battle to stay alive.

The left should be easier to defeat in the future if they persist in their attempts to portray everything that occurs in government as a referendum on the viability of the Republican party.

197 NYCHardhat  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:02:53am

re: #194 Nevergiveup

Final roll call vote on the UAW bailout
By Michelle Malkin • December 12, 2008 12:11 AM

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

The usual list of Republican suspects who did vote for it!

Ok. They must go now.

The 10 pro-bailout Republicans:

Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Collins (R-ME)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Lugar (R-IN)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

198 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:02:56am

re: #196 Bumr50

Meanwhile, over at Politico, the GOP continues it's battle to stay alive.

The left should be easier to defeat in the future if they persist in their attempts to portray everything that occurs in government as a referendum on the viability of the Republican party.

If we don't fight for our principals we might as well be democrats.

199 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:03:31am

Local news just said that Dems are going to the White House in an attempt to get Bush to authorize allocation of $15 billion from the original Big Bailout for the Big3.

200 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:04:07am

re: #197 NYCHardhat

Well doesn't Domenici (R-NM) have Alzheimer's?

201 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:04:18am

re: #189 opnion

FNC is now talking about how the Left thinks that Caroline Kennedy is fit to be a U.S Senator while they thought that a sitting Governor, Sarah Palin did not have enough experience to be VP.

They also thought that a guy with barely two years of experience in the Senate who only occasionally showed up (and usually just voted "I'm here!" when he did make it in) could handle the job of President.

Senator Caroline Kennedy? You know somebody is already thinking President Kennedy

202 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:05:11am

re: #200 Nevergiveup

Specter won't be there much longer.

203 NYCHardhat  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:06:38am

re: #200 Nevergiveup

Well doesn't Domenici (R-NM) have Alzheimer's?

Who are you?/

204 jetpilot1101  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:07:26am

Good morning Lizards. Market is going to take a huge hit today. Unions wouldn't concede and GM looks like its headed for BK and I don't mean Burger King.

205 gregg  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:07:46am

I wouldn't be surprised to see Bush do an end around and have Paulson release funds from the TARP to cover the $15 billion auto bailout.

206 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:08:00am

re: #203 NYCHardhat

Who are you?/

A very politically incorrect individual.

207 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:08:57am

re: #204 jetpilot1101

Good morning Lizards. Market is going to take a huge hit today. Unions wouldn't concede and GM looks like its headed for BK and I don't mean Burger King.

I would think the markets might actually like since that means the UAW will getting the shaft, and I don't mean the movie.

208 jetpilot1101  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:09:21am

re: #205 gregg

I wouldn't be surprised to see Bush do an end around and have Paulson release funds from the TARP to cover the $15 billion auto bailout.

I wouldn't be surprised either. He is shamelessly trying to try and be the rescuer of the economy. reminds me of Clinton desperately trying to salvage a "legacy" in the final days of his presidency.

209 NYCHardhat  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:09:57am

re: #206 Nevergiveup

A very politically incorrect individual.

Likewise neighbor.

210 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:10:15am

re: #189 opnion

FNC is now talking about how the Left thinks that Caroline Kennedy is fit to be a U.S Senator while they thought that a sitting Governor, Sarah Palin did not have enough experience to be VP.


And you're surprised?

211 jetpilot1101  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:11:06am

re: #207 Nevergiveup

I would think the markets might actually like since that means the UAW will getting the shaft, and I don't mean the movie.

Futures down 220 last check. Wall street isn't going to like it regardless of the unions getting the fid (and I don't mean the nautical tool) because this has huge ramifications on the rest of the economy.

212 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:11:21am

re: #209 NYCHardhat

Likewise neighbor.

We should really have a NJ Lizards get together. Something with alot of cholesterol and booze.

213 NYCHardhat  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:11:44am

re: #212 Nevergiveup

We should really have a NJ Lizards get together. Something with alot of cholesterol and booze.

I am sooooo down.

214 Susan Lee  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:11:50am

Charles; I enjoy immensely your posts about the New Earth Creationists vs. Evolution... and would like to introduce you to a website by an astronomer, Hugh Ross, who is harmonizing? Biblical Creation and Evolution - successfully, I think. Anyway, for your reading and thinking pleasure; [Link: www.reasons.org...]

Kind regards, Susan Lee

215 jetpilot1101  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:11:58am

re: #212 Nevergiveup

We should really have a NJ Lizards get together. Something with alot of cholesterol and booze.

I would love to see the moonbat protests at that event.

216 monkeytime  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:12:21am

Obama Knew! Obama Knew!

eh...it'll never catch on.

217 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:12:53am

re: #194 Nevergiveup

Final roll call vote on the UAW bailout
By Michelle Malkin • December 12, 2008 12:11 AM

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

The usual list of Republican suspects who did vote for it!

Chambliss (R-GA) votes no. Thank goodness the R's held the line in the runoff!

Coleman (R-MN) votes no - and hopefully there will continue to be a no vote from that seat. I think they are still searching the trunks and wheel wells of Minnesota automobiles.

John McCain (R-AZ) votes no. Finally grow a pair, John? A tad late, isn't it?

Lindsey Graham (R-SC) get off your ass and do your job! I didn't vote for you four years ago for you to sit on your ass! (And I won't vote for you again, after that immigration fiasco.)

218 NYCHardhat  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:13:28am

re: #215 jetpilot1101

I would love to see the moonbat protests at that event.

I will wear my homemade "Peace Through Superior Firepower" T-shirt. Should cause some trouble. It did on my college campus.

219 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:13:32am

re: #201 SteveC

They also thought that a guy with barely two years of experience in the Senate who only occasionally showed up (and usually just voted "I'm here!" when he did make it in) could handle the job of President.

Senator Caroline Kennedy? You know somebody is already thinking President Kennedy


Of course - they see her as the logical opposition to Palin. Can you imagine that scenario?

220 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:13:36am

re: #215 jetpilot1101

I would love to see the moonbat protests at that event.

And all woman lizards have to wear fur coats.

221 jetpilot1101  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:14:31am

re: #220 Nevergiveup

And all woman lizards have to wear fur coats.

And everyone has to show up in the biggest SUV possible.

222 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:15:13am

Good night. I'll catch y'all during the day.

223 96RoadKing  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:15:35am

Mornin' Lizards!

-3F here this morning. Up where Will Steger lives (Ely, MN), it's -26F. Actual temperature, no wind chill.

Love that Global Warming!

224 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:15:38am

Good morning

Look for the market to plummet today as the auto bailout failed in the Senate.


The situation boils down to a giant game of chicken. In order for the the auto companies to become competitive, they have to give back more than they have in labor costs and benefits. They don't want to. So they figure if they can just get a bridge loan to carry them till Obama is in, they are home free. The Senate Republicans said no, so the money is not coming from Congress.

Therefore, it gets thrown in the lap of the White House with the UAW and he Dem's betting that Bush will not want to leave the White House with these two bankruptcies on his shoulders.

We are eyeball to eyeball and the UAW figures Bush will blink.

225 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:15:47am

re: #220 Nevergiveup

And all woman lizards have to wear fur coats.

Can I wear my leather pants?

226 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:16:35am

re: #207 Nevergiveup

I would think the markets might actually like since that means the UAW will getting the shaft, and I don't mean the movie.

No one understands Shaft but his woman.

227 NYCHardhat  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:16:38am

re: #225 MandyManners

Can I wear my leather pants?

YES! I would love to see that.

228 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:16:45am

re: #207 Nevergiveup

I would think the markets might actually like since that means the UAW will getting the shaft, and I don't mean the movie.


If the Markets end up today I hope Reid chokes on the "dread" he said he will feel looking at Wall Street this morning.

229 gregg  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:16:45am

I noticed Reid voted against it - anyone know the explanation for this?

230 NYCHardhat  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:17:08am

re: #229 gregg

I noticed Reid voted against it - anyone know the explanation for this?

Not enough earmarks?

231 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:17:29am

re: #221 jetpilot1101

And everyone has to show up in the biggest SUV possible.

Good point.

232 bp sf  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:17:39am

NJ LGF Meetup?

How's about Rutt's Hut in Clifton? Rippers and beers!

233 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:18:05am

re: #225 MandyManners

Can I wear my leather pants?

If you do, drinks are on me!

234 NYCHardhat  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:18:12am

re: #232 bp sf

NJ LGF Meetup?

How's about Rutt's Hut in Clifton? Rippers and beers!

Colorado Cafe in Watchung?

235 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:18:15am

Does anyone think that a campaign against labor unions would be successful at a grassroots level?
Say Union No?

Does anyone think that there are enough people that understand?

Maybe I'm just bitter, being from Pittsburgh where questioning ANYTHING the union does is something one does not do in mixed company without fear of repercussions.

236 TheMatrix31  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:18:45am

re: #229 gregg

I noticed Reid voted against it - anyone know the explanation for this?

So why is he saying he's going to "dread" looking at Wall Street today?

237 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:19:30am

re: #217 SteveC

Chambliss (R-GA) votes no. Thank goodness the R's held the line in the runoff!

Coleman (R-MN) votes no - and hopefully there will continue to be a no vote from that seat. I think they are still searching the trunks and wheel wells of Minnesota automobiles.

John McCain (R-AZ) votes no. Finally grow a pair, John? A tad late, isn't it?

Lindsey Graham (R-SC) get off your ass and do your job! I didn't vote for you four years ago for you to sit on your ass! (And I won't vote for you again, after that immigration fiasco.)


Saxby is getting alot of heat down here to toe the party line - Palin's whirlwind Georgia tour saved his behind and he knows it.

238 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:19:42am

re: #232 bp sf

Is a ripper a deep fried sausage? I've never had, but fantasize. With horseradish mustard.

239 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:20:15am

re: #224 3 wood

We are eyeball to eyeball and the UAW figures Bush will blink.

And I get the feeling that if I bet $5 on the UAW I'd win. :(

240 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:20:38am

re: #237 summergurl

Saxby is getting alot of heat down here to toe the party line - Palin's whirlwind Georgia tour saved his behind and he knows it.

And President Bush saved Spector's once and we see how grateful that SOB was!

241 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:21:42am

On the Blago - Obama front.

Obama is doing everything he can to distance himself from Blagojevich and the filthy Chicago Machine politics. So far,he has been successful in getting the MSM to buy off that Obama can walk on water. But Rahm Emanuel and David Axlerod are hip deep in that sewer with Blago, they operated side by side with him.

Emanuel and Axlerod are ususally right behind Obama at every press conference, you never see Obama with out those two. In fact, Obama has to stop walking slowly to avoid breaking their noses.

You may have noticed at yesterday's Obama press conference, there was no Emanuel and no Axlerod.

Something else to just keep an eye on.

242 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:22:07am

re: #239 SteveC

And I get the feeling that if I bet $5 on the UAW I'd win. :(

I don't think Bush will. Of course that may just be wishful thinking, after all, I am still waiting for the President to stop this Islam is a religion of peace crap?

243 jorline  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:22:10am

re: #229 gregg

I noticed Reid voted against it - anyone know the explanation for this?

Reid also voted "no" for procedural reasons.

I don't know what "procedural reasons" means.

Link here.

244 bp sf  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:22:20am

They call 'em rippers...hot dogs deep fried that rip open.

245 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:22:26am

re: #236 TheMatrix31

So why is he saying he's going to "dread" looking at Wall Street today?


I don't know. He is quoted as saying that the bill's collapse was a "loss for the country".

Reid is playing games again.

246 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:22:36am

re: #229 gregg

I noticed Reid voted against it - anyone know the explanation for this?

They want it in Bush's lap.

247 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:24:07am

re: #239 SteveC

And I get the feeling that if I bet $5 on the UAW I'd win. :(

Probably.

248 gregg  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:24:13am

re: #243 jorline

Thanks. I don't know what that mean either. Sounds like CYA.

249 bp sf  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:24:14am

The Colorado Cafe?

Looks like a NJ copy of Mickey Gilley's.

From their web site:
Dress Code Strictly Enforced
No:
White Strapped Undershirts
Head Bandanas ~ Skull Caps
Baggy Pants ~ Unlaced Work Boots
Colors and/or Rags

Cowboy Up...no gang bangers or wife beaters please!

250 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:24:38am

Good morning, Lizards. Two hour delay here in Western PA.

251 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:24:48am

re: #245 summergurl

I don't know. He is quoted as saying that the bill's collapse was a "loss for the country".

Reid is playing games again.

By saying "again", you imply that he actually quit for a while and has now resumed his game playing. I'm not sure he did.

252 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:24:57am

re: #239 SteveC

We can get the union to concede, given the current economic climate.

We almost had a port authority strike here two weeks ago, but the AFL-CIO sent delegates to Pittsburgh to encourage a deal with the transit union giving up some benefits to avoid a public black-eye associated with $30 an hour plus overtime bus drivers on the picket line.

That doesn't happen often.

253 monkeytime  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:25:01am

re: #225 MandyManners

Can I wear my leather pants?

Now Now - let's show them that we have a heart and can be charitable.
We can have an area for free makeovers for leftie women. We can let them trade in their birkenstocks for a pair of high heels and we can give away razors for them to shave and wax for their legs.
:>)

254 NYCHardhat  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:25:29am

re: #249 bp sf

The Colorado Cafe?

Looks like a NJ copy of Mickey Gilley's.

From their web site:
Dress Code Strictly Enforced
No:
White Strapped Undershirts
Head Bandanas ~ Skull Caps
Baggy Pants ~ Unlaced Work Boots
Colors and/or Rags

Cowboy Up...no gang bangers or wife beaters please!

Its a kick ass joint for pseudo punks like myself. Cowboys don't give me trouble.

255 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:25:29am

re: #246 3 wood

They want it in Bush's lap.

Procedural reasons? Gee whiz... Is that like voting "present"? What a crock.

256 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:25:30am

re: #241 3 wood

Is Emanuel the adviser on gov tape?
MUM | Obama's chief of staff refuses to answer the question

[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

“You’re wasting your time,” Emanuel said. “I’m not going to say a word to you. I’m going to do this with my children. Dont do that. I’m a father. I have two kids. I’m not going to do it.”

When they start hiding behind their kids........

257 bp sf  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:25:39am

Good morning jorline.

Wish I was seeing the sunrise over Gulf down your way...you lucky Texan.

258 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:26:10am

re: #250 goddessoftheclassroom

Hey! I'm in Western PA! You must be in Westmoreland County?
Roads are good here in the North Hills.

259 NYCHardhat  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:26:58am

good hunting lizards!

260 jorline  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:27:13am

{goddess}

Good morning to you.

261 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:27:43am

re: #241 3 wood

There's a really good line in there somewhere with an "Axelrod" under a bus.

262 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:27:45am

Manila reports Ebola virus in pigs
By Roel Landingin in Manila

[Link: www.ft.com...]

Well I guess it's time to go back to being kosher!

263 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:28:03am

Uh oh

Jesse Jackson Jr. has got big problems:

Blagojevich fundraiser held by Jackson allies Saturday

As Gov. Rod Blagojevich was trying to pick Illinois' next U.S. senator, businessmen with ties to both the governor and U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. discussed raising at least $1 million for Blagojevich's campaign as a way to encourage him to pick Jackson for the job, the Tribune has learned.

Blagojevich made an appearance at an Oct. 31 luncheon meeting at the India House restaurant in Schaumburg sponsored by Oak Brook businessman Raghuveer Nayak, a major Blagojevich supporter who also has fundraising and business ties to the Jackson family, according to several attendees and public records.

Two businessmen who attended the meeting and spoke to the Tribune on the condition of anonymity said that Nayak and Blagojevich aide Rajinder Bedi privately told many of the more than two dozen attendees the fundraising effort was aimed at supporting Jackson's bid for the Senate.

264 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:28:10am

re: #258 Bumr50

Hey! I'm in Western PA! You must be in Westmoreland County?
Roads are good here in the North Hills.

Actually, a little bit more to the east: Indiana County.

265 jorline  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:29:14am

re: #257 bp sf

Good morning jorline.

Wish I was seeing the sunrise over Gulf down your way...you lucky Texan.

Good morning, bp sf. It's a cold beach morning here...38 degrees, but we will be in the lower 80's by Sunday.

266 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:29:28am

re: #263 3 wood

Uh oh

Jesse Jackson Jr. has got big problems:

Blagojevich fundraiser held by Jackson allies Saturday

Well it's nice to know that Blago is an equal opportunity extortionist?

267 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:31:35am

re: #256 Nevergiveup

Is Emanuel the adviser on gov tape?

I'm starting to hear strong rumors of that is all I can say.

In other news, people are starting to wonder why Rahm Emanuel has not yet resigned his Congressional position.

268 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:32:50am

re: #224 3 wood

Good morning

Look for the market to plummet today as the auto bailout failed in the Senate.


The situation boils down to a giant game of chicken. In order for the the auto companies to become competitive, they have to give back more than they have in labor costs and benefits. They don't want to. So they figure if they can just get a bridge loan to carry them till Obama is in, they are home free. The Senate Republicans said no, so the money is not coming from Congress.

Therefore, it gets thrown in the lap of the White House with the UAW and he Dem's betting that Bush will not want to leave the White House with these two bankruptcies on his shoulders.

We are eyeball to eyeball and the UAW figures Bush will blink.


I hope Bush doesn't blink!

So, should one short GM or F against the box?

269 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:33:11am

re: #264 goddessoftheclassroom

Attended IUP for a bit. I was "undecided."
It's just really icy here.

I'm originally from Saxonburg, Butler County. Spent my entire youth in the country swearing that all I wanted was to get out of the sticks.

Now I'm doing all I can to get back.

270 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:33:25am

re: #267 3 wood

I'm starting to hear strong rumors of that is all I can say.

In other news, people are starting to wonder why Rahm Emanuel has not yet resigned his Congressional position.

Just an aside, but does the Gov also appoint congressional vacancies?

271 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:33:51am

re: #266 Nevergiveup

Well it's nice to know that Blago is an equal opportunity extortionist?

With Jesse "I do not believe in pay to play politics" Jackson Jr.

I find the fact that the old man has no comment and has vanished as saying a whole lot.

I think the Old Man does not want to have to talk to the Fed's.

272 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:34:34am

re: #267 3 wood

I'm starting to hear strong rumors of that is all I can say.

In other news, people are starting to wonder why Rahm Emanuel has not yet resigned his Congressional position.


This should be an interesting news day - bailout bill flops, Rahmbo dodging questions, OB saying " I know nothing - I know nothing" ..

What was that Sgt.s name in Hogan's Heroes?

273 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:34:43am

re: #268 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

So, should one short GM or F against the box?

Depends on if you think Bush will blink.

I think he will blink.

274 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:34:59am

re: #271 3 wood

With Jesse "I do not believe in pay to play politics" Jackson Jr.

I find the fact that the old man has no comment and has vanished as saying a whole lot.

I think the Old Man does not want to have to talk to the Fed's.

Or maybe he jus can't find proper rhyming sound bites.

275 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:35:07am

re: #258 Bumr50

Hey! I'm in Western PA! You must be in Westmoreland County?
Roads are good here in the North Hills.

Actually, a little bit more to the east: Indiana County.re: #269 Bumr50

There's a lot to be said for small towns!

276 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:35:33am

re: #272 summergurl

This should be an interesting news day - bailout bill flops, Rahmbo dodging questions, OB saying " I know nothing - I know nothing" ..

What was that Sgt.s name in Hogan's Heroes?

Shultz

277 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:36:32am

re: #276 Nevergiveup

Shultz


Thank you ! I could have Googled it but only on my first cup of coffee.

278 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:37:08am

re: #266 Nevergiveup

Well it's nice to know that Blago is an equal opportunity extortionist?

By the way, this is typical Chicago politics.

The bag man is not just a figment of old novels.

279 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:37:10am

re: #273 3 wood

Depends on if you think Bush will blink.

I think he will blink.


I wonder what the options pricing is looking like.

280 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:37:21am

re: #277 summergurl

Thank you ! I could have Googled it but only on my first cup of coffee.

Many hours of a misspent youth watching TV.

281 Stonemason  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:37:25am

re: #269 Bumr50

I did three years at IUP back in the eighties, one of those winters had the coldest day ever included...it seemed anyway. Penn State closed that day, we didn't. -15 with wind chills around -40...that was cold

282 jetpilot1101  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:37:45am

re: #268 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I hope Bush doesn't blink!

So, should one short GM or F against the box?

You needed to short them yesterday. GM will open down big but you won't get in at the closing price, you'll get in at the open and who knows if it heads lower.

GM already down 40% premarket.

283 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:37:50am

re: #280 Nevergiveup

Many hours of a misspent youth watching TV.

Great show though.

284 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:38:21am

re: #272 summergurl

What was that Sgt.s name in Hogan's Heroes?

Sgt. Schultz.

By now, Obama is not even sure where Illinois is.

285 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:38:37am

"Thank you! Thank you very much, it's good to get out of the White house every now and again. I've been thinking, and I believe it might be a good idea to follow Chris Matthews advice and step down as President; Senator Obama has already shown that he could be a good President. One month after the election and he is already up to his ass in scandal."

"My friend Harry Reid is like a used car salesman, he always stands behind his product. It's safe back there, since it usually won't run in reverse. And no matter what kind of financing he offers, I'm not buying that crock of shit he's trying to peddle."

I'll be here another month, folks!

286 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:38:50am

re: #284 3 wood

Sgt. Schultz.

By now, Obama is not even sure where Illinois is.


ROFL

287 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:39:22am

re: #282 jetpilot1101

You needed to short them yesterday. GM will open down big but you won't get in at the closing price, you'll get in at the open and who knows if it heads lower.

GM already down 40% premarket.

Your right, too late now.

288 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:39:37am

re: #263 3 wood

Uh oh

Jesse Jackson Jr. has got big problems:

Blagojevich fundraiser held by Jackson allies Saturday

Two businessmen who attended the meeting and spoke to the Tribune on the condition of anonymity said that Nayak and Blagojevich aide Rajinder Bedi privately told many of the more than two dozen attendees the fundraising effort was aimed at supporting Jackson's bid for the Senate.

Why in the world would someone need to raise money for a seat that is not up for election right now? Wouldn't that money be tracked?

289 gregg  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:39:42am

The other big news today is the $50 billion Ponzi scheme led by hedge fund manager Bernard Madoff. We won't hear much about this in the MSM because of this:

Since 2000, Madoff has donated at least $100,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and more than $23,000 to the party’s candidates, including New York Senator Charles Schumer and New Jersey Senator Frank Lautenberg, according to the Center for Responsive Politics

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

290 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:40:22am

re: #263 3 wood

Uh oh

Jesse Jackson Jr. has got big problems:

To quote my father, "Jackson has cr*p on his hands that Ajax won't clean off."

He was talking about Jesse Sr. at the moment, but apples don't fall from from their trees.

291 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:40:27am

re: #288 MandyManners

Why in the world would someone need to raise money for a seat that is not up for election right now? Wouldn't that money be tracked?

Shirley you jest?

292 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:41:25am

re: #289 gregg

The other big news today is the $50 billion Ponzi scheme led by hedge fund manager Bernard Madoff. We won't hear much about this in the MSM because of this:


[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Heh, I was just about to comment on this..I wonder if he will off himself before he goes to the pokey. If not, I wonder how much time he's gonna get.

293 gregg  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:42:57am

re: #292 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Heh, I was just about to comment on this..I wonder if he will off himself before he goes to the pokey. If not, I wonder how much time he's gonna get.

The way things are going, Bush will pardon him.

294 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:43:07am

Local radio host pointing out the media's new tactic of trying to portray as "psychologically unstable" in order to invalidate anything he MIGHT say under oath.

Good point. Good host.

295 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:44:26am

From the article I linked above:

Jackson's congressional spokesman Rick Bryant said Thursday that Nayak is a "family friend and supporter" of the congressman as well as his well-known father, Rev. Jesse Jackson. The congressman and Nayak have spoken about Jackson's desire to succeed Obama.

"He has talked to [Nayak] about the Senate seat and he has mentioned his interest," Bryant said of his boss. "But he never asked him to do anything."

Jackson's newly retained attorney, James Montgomery, said Wednesday he could not rule out that such possibilities were discussed with Blagojevich by people who did not have his client's blessing.

Starting to sound like the Original Shake Down Artist, Jesse Sr., had a hand in this.

No Jr.'s attorney is changing his tune, now saying something might have been done but without our knowledge.

Dad might get thrown under the bus.

I'm also hearing from my connections that people are running to the Fed's and singing like a bird. Rezco has apparently also had a sudden regaining of memory on some things.

296 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:45:22am

re: #288 MandyManners

Why in the world would someone need to raise money for a seat that is not up for election right now? Wouldn't that money be tracked?

This is what is known in Chicago Machine politics as "The Fix".

297 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:45:31am

re: #281 Stonemason

It's so much more tolerable now due to anthropogenic global warming.
/sarc

Was Coney Island there then?

298 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:45:50am

re: #282 jetpilot1101

You needed to short them yesterday. GM will open down big but you won't get in at the closing price, you'll get in at the open and who knows if it heads lower.

GM already down 40% premarket.

Both F & GM are below 5 and not marginable and, hence, not shortable.

299 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:46:07am

re: #295 3 wood

This should be good for newspaper sales in the windy city, but I guess that is to late for the Tribune Company ha?

300 itellu3times  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:46:38am

re: #289 gregg

The other big news today is the $50 billion Ponzi scheme led by hedge fund manager Bernard Madoff.

Ya. Could be major moby mondo news. Still, it sounds to me like the $50b number is exaggerated. Plenty of news if it's "only" $10b.

Market not going to be happy today.

301 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:48:05am

Well, I'm off to prepare for work. The market's gonna suck today and my guys will be eating tums like candy. As a registered sales assistant it's my job to keep them away from the windows.


Just kidding.

Our clients are well diversified, but daym...everything is down.

OTOH, I am buying where I see a good oportunity.

3Wood...what do you do?

302 Stonemason  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:48:10am

re: #297 Bumr50

I don't remember Coney Island, then again, I don't remember a whole lot of those three years. Almost 90 credits...no degree, but lots of time in the Sig Tau house, as a guest, not a member.

I enjoyed my time there, maybe too much.

303 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:48:52am

re: #299 Nevergiveup

This should be good for newspaper sales in the windy city, but I guess that is to late for the Tribune Company ha?

The Tribune will survive. Sam Zell's a bankruptcy attorney, he did this intentionally so he could cancel a bunch of bad contracts and restructure the paper.

Just like the auto companies should do.

304 Stonemason  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:49:06am

re: #297 Bumr50

We are from the east of the state but my brother is now living in Windber, that is a pretty place, up in the hills.

305 monkeytime  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:49:29am

Is Obama's Cabinet Too Conservative?

The Washing Post wants your opinion!

306 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:49:59am

re: #301 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

3Wood...what do you do?

Look for undervalued but solid companies and understand I am investing for the long term, 5 years or more in duration.

307 gregg  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:50:30am

This was probably discussed in an earlier thread, but I see Murdoch said he wants the New York Times and predicted he would get it.

308 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:50:35am

On a totally unrelated side issue... I hate people who give you an option on eBay for fast shipping and then can't get the package in the mail until four days after you paypal them.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled current events discussion!

309 3 wood  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:50:43am

Look for the market to drop 5% minimum today.

310 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:51:41am

re: #306 3 wood

Look for undervalued but solid companies and understand I am investing for the long term, 5 years or more in duration.

Me too.

I take it you are an advisor. You a CFP?

311 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:52:32am

re: #309 3 wood

Look for the market to drop 5% minimum today.

I don't thank we're going to see a 20% drop either.

312 rancher  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:52:50am

re: #236 TheMatrix31
The ballot was to confusing and obscure.

313 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:53:19am

Gotta run. Time to dress and play mom's taxi. Back later, maybe.

314 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:53:34am

re: #304 Stonemason

I know Windber. Many old friends from Johnstown, Home of Murtha and Unemployment.

315 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:54:17am

re: #306 3 wood

Look for undervalued but solid companies and understand I am investing for the long term, 5 years or more in duration.

I'm looking at power producers and supermarket company stocks. People gotta eat no matter what the economy. And most of them like to have electricity in the house, too.

/Haven't got that much to invest, but at least I'm working my money and not waiting on a bailout!

316 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:56:33am

re: #315 SteveC

I'm a fast food manager. Business is BOOMING. Never underestimate the laziness of Americans.

317 itellu3times  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:56:36am

re: #311 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Look for the market to drop 5% minimum today

I don't thank we're going to see a 20% drop either.

I'll split the difference and expect 10% today.

Depends if any *more* bad news hits before closing, and I think retail sales news over next few days is going to be record bad - malls are empty.

318 DaddyG  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:57:23am

re: #26 gmsc

Quick reminder: The slashies at the end of a message communicate I'm being facetious. The more slashies, the less seriously you should take the message itself.

Yes - when it comes to the seriousness that post suffered the dearth of 1000 slashes.

319 Stonemason  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:59:03am

re: #314 Bumr50

Yeah, and all the medical buildings are named after that thief. My brother bought a reclaimed strip mine and built a house, great set-up wonderful view, but not much work for a golf pro. Good thing his wife has a great job!

320 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 4:59:56am

re: #317 itellu3times

I'll split the difference and expect 10% today.

Depends if any *more* bad news hits before closing, and I think retail sales news over next few days is going to be record bad - malls are empty.

Not around here!

321 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:00:49am

Egyptian President: "Iran wants to devour the Arab World"

322 rancher  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:00:58am

re: #272 summergurl SSSShultzzzz.

323 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:01:17am

Blagojevich's favorite Christmas song.

324 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:01:46am

re: #309 3 wood
But that's only, what, 400 points.
Chicken feed!

325 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:02:09am

re: #317 itellu3times

I'll split the difference and expect 10% today.

Depends if any *more* bad news hits before closing, and I think retail sales news over next few days is going to be record bad - malls are empty.

Oh... you mean that the MSM ran the "Brick and Mortar is Doooooooomed!" line so hard that it's finally happening?

/God I wish my college football team had someone who could run the ball that hard.

326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:02:10am

Wow. When this chick wants sex, you had better give it to her...

Can't imagine turning this down tho...

327 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:02:47am

Is it pronounced Bla GOY a vich or Bla GO ya vich?

328 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:03:48am

FBV, thoughts and prayers for you and the missus today. Are there any little vegetarians?

329 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:04:25am

re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow. When this chick wants sex, you had better give it to her...

Can't imagine turning this down tho...

I bet she cleans up right nice.

330 rancher  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:05:04am

re: #284 3 wood
That is not the Illinois I thought I knew.

331 Bumr50  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:05:16am

re: #319 Stonemason

I have a friend whose parents have property close to there with a natural gas well on it that was found after they bought the land.
Talk about cheap living. Percentage of profit plus free utilities (g & e) anyway.
My friend built a house there on the other side of the property. Great for him, I haven't talked to his wife since though:)

332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:06:05am

re: #328 Jim in Virginia

Thanks. Yes. Not little tho. Adult.

333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:06:49am

re: #329 MandyManners

I bet she cleans up right nice.

(shudder).

bet he does too. (double shudder)

334 legalpad  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:07:16am

re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow. When this chick wants sex, you had better give it to her...

Can't imagine turning this down tho...

Come on - you know you are glad to be out of certain relationships. You have seen Fatal Attraction, right?

335 rancher  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:07:41am

re: #327 MandyManners
Bla go ya vich I beleive.

336 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:07:50am

re: #329 MandyManners

I bet she cleans up right nice.

Some guys go for women who can get their crazy on, ya know. Takes all kinds!

337 heidi586  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:08:36am

re: #317 itellu3times

The mall was crazy busy yesterday - I work retail and yesterday was one of the better days...it has been a very strange Christmas selling/buying season...I think many are waiting for the last days, to pick up better deals. And as we lower our prices we are having people return receipt in hand to get the $1 difference credited back to their cards...never have seen it before in such numbers. Sales are no where near corporate projections but the numbers are limping along with days like yesterday.

338 opnion  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:08:56am

Some pundit brought up a good point this morning.
Valarie Jarrett is an Obama person. She is really wired to him.
She was also candidate #1 in the Blago/Senate sweepstakes.
Can you reasonably believe that the Obama Campaign had no role in the selection process?

339 Stonemason  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:09:20am

re: #331 Bumr50

And my brother has the opposite, the land did not come with the mineral rights...but 127 acres for less than 200 grand...couldn't pass it up.

340 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:10:23am

re: #337 heidi586

I thought Black Friday numbers were up three per cent over last year.

341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:11:06am

BTW, love that McDonalds sign that they put up next to a Starbucks.

"four bucks is dumb".

Now that's a stab in the lip!

342 CIA Reject  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:11:28am
"Electricity is actually made up of extremely tiny particles called electrons, that you cannot see with the naked eye unless you have been drinking."

— Dave Barry

"A priceless prototype device will protect a 3 cent fuse by blowing first"

-Murphy's Law of Electricity.

/Good Morning Everybody!

343 MandyManners  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:13:09am

bbl

344 heidi586  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:13:49am

re: #340 MandyManners

Black Friday was fantastic...we beat last year by thousands of dollars but then it has been dead slow. We actually had a store break $100,000 this year on black Friday - that has never been done before. CRAZY! My husband is just flabbergasted by it since my store is a woman's store - selling nothing that anyone needs..it's a want store...the best want store, but still...

345 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:14:27am

re: #342 CIA Reject

"A priceless prototype device will protect a 3 cent fuse by blowing first"

-Murphy's Law of Electricity.

/Good Morning Everybody!

Shit happens...as a rule.

346 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:15:07am

He's not melting fast enough IMHO:

[Link: www.neatorama.com...]

Good morning, Lizard Clan...happy Friday!

347 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:16:50am

dayum!

Fox reporter bought a Blackberry from McCain/Palin campaign and it hadn't been "scrubbed" - full of campaign information!

Not so much that, but I never thought about what happens to the loosing campaign's "stuff" -- the Blackberry was dirt cheap! ($50 or less? I only had one ear on the TV)

I know where I'm going electronic shopping in four years!

348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:17:56am

re: #346 scottishbuzzsaw

Actually, pretty clever. Misguided? Yeah. But clever.

349 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:19:17am

Good morning Lizards....

350 notutopia  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:19:22am

Electricity is actually made up of extremely tiny particles called electrons, that you cannot see with the naked eye unless you have been drinking.
— Dave Barry

Ah well Mr. Barry, not to worry, you can SEE electricity without drinking.
[Link: www.exploratorium.edu...]


Good Morning All!
.

351 heidi586  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:20:12am

Since I jumped right in and never bothered to wish everyone a good morn.....I'll wish everyone a good day as I leave. Make it a great day everyone. Time to go make the customers day and sell sell sell.

352 CIA Reject  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:21:25am

re: #345 Spare O'Lake

Shit happens...as a rule.

Good Morning Spare O'Lake!

Of course anybody who has ever worked with electronic devices knows that what makes them work is smoke. If you somehow do something to release the smoke from the device then it will no longer work.

/Why do I get the impression that at least half of the people in the incoming administration will see nothing wrong with that line of reasoning?

353 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:21:31am

re: #346 scottishbuzzsaw

He's not melting fast enough IMHO:

[Link: www.neatorama.com...]

Good morning, Lizard Clan...happy Friday!

Poor guy got swamped by his own bullshit.

354 DaddyG  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:22:28am

re: #261 Bumr50

There's a really good line in there somewhere with an "Axelrod" under a bus.

Reuters 12/12/08 - The Obama express came to an abrupt halt to day on its journey to the inauguration. Mechanics on the scene reported an excessive buildup of political liabilites thrown under the bus had broken an Axelrod. The driver reported that while the bus would no longer run on automatic they would press on in Emanual gear.

355 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:23:44am

VERY unusual couple of days in a row now for Rod Blagojevich. Instead of spending all his time at his house or campaign headquarters, he actually went to his Chicago office!
(too little, too late....)

356 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:23:55am

re: #349 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards....

Mornin' luv...coffee? and how are you today?

357 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:24:06am

re: #307 gregg

This was probably discussed in an earlier thread, but I see Murdoch said he wants the New York Times and predicted he would get it.

Wouldn't that be hysterical! The FOX staffers go drop by to say "hey" and have a cup of joe in the morning....

If I remember from my NY visit a couple of years ago, they are not too far apart - geographically that is.

358 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:24:59am

re: #309 3 wood

Look for the market to drop 5% minimum today.


I am betting UP because that is how kooky this world is.

359 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:26:18am

re: #349 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards....

MWAH! It's been too long since we've been here at the same time!And since we're joking about electricity...

360 DaddyG  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:27:18am

liabilities

PIMF

361 summergurl  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:28:23am

re: #354 DaddyG

Reuters 12/12/08 - The Obama express came to an abrupt halt to day on its journey to the inauguration. Mechanics on the scene reported an excessive buildup of political liabilites thrown under the bus had broken an Axelrod. The driver reported that while the bus would no longer run on automatic they would press on in Emanual gear.


Good one

362 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:28:41am

Hi, Goddess! Good to see you!

363 opnion  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:28:56am

re: #355 Taqyia2Me

VERY unusual couple of days in a row now for Rod Blagojevich. Instead of spending all his time at his house or campaign headquarters, he actually went to his Chicago office!
(too little, too late....)


WLS radio reportying this morning that Rod wanted Potty Mouth Patty to get a sweetheart job, like Michelle has at the UofC Medical Center.

364 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:29:54am

Paramedics: Why we do what we do

Good read.

365 MTNester  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:30:14am

re: #359 goddessoftheclassroom

Good Morning Goddess...how have you been? Funny photo!

366 DaddyG  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:30:49am

re: #363 opnion

WLS radio reportying this morning that Rod wanted Potty Mouth Patty to get a sweetheart job, like Michelle has at the UofC Medical Center.

Potty Mouth Patty! Hahahahahahaha!

Now my office mates think I'm completely insane.

/not that they are wrong but the random laughter has 'em more worried than usual.

367 opnion  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:31:54am

re: #366 DaddyG

Potty Mouth Patty! Hahahahahahaha!

Now my office mates think I'm completely insane.

/not that they are wrong but the random laughter has 'em more worried than usual.


Don't stop, you are keeping them alert.

368 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:32:51am

re: #356 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' luv...coffee? and how are you today?

Coffee...... Umm, feeling pretty good, yea, that's the ticket.... ;)

369 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:33:42am

re: #359 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH! It's been too long since we've been here at the same time!And since we're joking about electricity...

Morning cuttie pie...... MWAH.....

370 albusteve  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:35:31am

CKs newest downer...Obamas "pot of gold"

[Link: townhall.com...]

fine...where's mine?

371 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:36:08am

Now I've got to get ready--two-hour snow delays are one of the perks of teaching!

Have a great day, Lizards!

372 pingjockey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:37:18am

Mornin" all. Snow possible here in the Northwest today. So of course Les Scwab was a looney bin yesterday and today too. Trying to do their annual maintenance on fire extinguishers and damn near got run over! Twice!

373 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:40:26am

re: #366 DaddyG

Potty Mouth Patty! Hahahahahahaha!

Sounds like the must-have doll this season...like tickle-me-elmo, only...not.

374 pingjockey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:41:59am

Did y'all see the video of the shark trying to get some treats out of the cage? Yummm! Humans, it's what's for lunch. And Mickey Ds is running billboards in Seattle saying "4 bucks for coffee is dumb!" 4 bucks is our local name for Starbucks. Mwahahaha!

375 JimmyTheClaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:47:31am

re: #99 redc1c4

even better The Pelosi GT!

that was a 1972 model why dont we have plug in yer garage suv's 30+ years later

376 Miss Trixie  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:47:40am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Another wintry day in the Valley and it's Firday! At last!

Help yourself! A schmear of this on top, accompanied by some bacon, (whoopsie! *blush* Try here instead) and a nice big helping of this will start your day off on the right foot. :D

377 Miss Trixie  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:48:46am

re: #365 MTNester

Good Morning Goddess...how have you been? Funny photo!

DARLING LADY! *mwah* I haven't seen you in ages! *hugs*

How are you and Mr. MTNester?

378 Miss Trixie  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:52:31am

Wait.

*toc*toc*toc*

Is this thing on?

379 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:53:10am

re: #376 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Another wintry day in the Valley and it's Firday! At last!

Help yourself! A schmear of this on top, accompanied by some bacon, (whoopsie! *blush* Try here instead) and a nice big helping of this will start your day off on the right foot. :D

Good morning, and thanks for the nice breakfast spread, Miss Trixie! A little footloose with the morning meat?...;>)

380 pingjockey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:53:17am

re: #378 Miss Trixie
Nope, you are in a parallel none lizard universe!

381 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:53:43am

re: #378 Miss Trixie

Wait.

*toc*toc*toc*

Is this thing on?

Sigh.... my cuttie pie already left..... ;(

382 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:54:54am

re: #376 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Another wintry day in the Valley and it's Firday! At last!

Help yourself! A schmear of this on top, accompanied by some bacon, (whoopsie! *blush* Try here instead) and a nice big helping of this will start your day off on the right foot. :D

My my, what do you have on your mind this morning..... ;)

383 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:55:07am

Morning All!

Don't worry, Dorian... I'm here for ya big boy... *flutters eyelashes*

384 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:56:19am

re: #383 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning All!

Don't worry, Dorian... I'm here for ya big boy... *flutters eyelashes*

Retch........... ;(

385 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:56:30am

re: #383 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning All!

Don't worry, Dorian... I'm here for ya big boy... *flutters eyelashes*

*spew* Uh, do you two want to be alone? ;>) Mornin' Vet!

386 realwest  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:57:05am

Well good morning y'all - from a coldish (41 degrees, going up to 53 degrees), bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone this fine morning?

387 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:57:15am

re: #385 scottishbuzzsaw

*spew* Uh, do you two want to be alone? ;>) Mornin' Vet!

Pttttt.... you're still a big ole marshmallow.... ;p

388 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:57:30am

He just looked lonely to me...

Hi Scottish!

389 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:58:24am

Real,

You win by 20 degrees today.

390 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:58:32am

re: #387 doriangrey

Pttttt.... you're still a big ole marshmallow.... ;p

HEY! I resent the 'big' part...and the 'ole' part!

391 pingjockey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:58:39am

Hah! Newt talking about 'honesty' being the next big thing in politics. We are about to see 4 years of corruption that will make US Grants admin look like a pink tea party. Once a Chicago pol, always a Chicago pol. Obambis' gonna have nothing but Chicago bully boys running things and nothing will get investigated cause the press will howl RACISM at the top of their liberal lungs.

392 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:58:49am

re: #388 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

He just looked lonely to me...

Hi Scottish!

Lonely no.... But I surly do appreciate a beautiful woman who is smarter than me.... ;)

393 Miss Trixie  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:59:36am

re: #381 doriangrey

Sigh.... my cuttie pie already left..... ;(

So what am I? Chopped liver? :P

scottie

Good one! *badumpbump*

394 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:59:41am

re: #386 realwest

Well good morning y'all - from a coldish (41 degrees, going up to 53 degrees), bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone this fine morning?

Morning real.... Doing fine... well except for Vet hitting on me... But otherwise fine.... How about yourself?

395 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 5:59:44am

re: #390 scottishbuzzsaw

HEY! I resent the 'big' part...and the 'ole' part!

I think he meant me... we all know you are hot...

396 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:00:08am

re: #386 realwest

Well good morning y'all - from a coldish (41 degrees, going up to 53 degrees), bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone this fine morning?

Good morning, {real}, and happy Friday!

397 pingjockey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:00:15am

re: #386 realwest
Mornin' RW, currently 30 here in the Greater Wenatchee Valley going down to 28 with a chance of snow. Single digit temps by Sunday! So much for gorebull warming!

398 Miss Trixie  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:00:16am

re: #382 doriangrey

My my, what do you have on your mind this morning..... ;)

Sausages.

399 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:00:35am

re: #393 Miss Trixie

So what am I? Chopped liver? :P

scottie

Good one! *badumpbump*

Realwest's cuttie pie.... And I never poach on a lawyers cuttie pie.... ;)

400 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:00:39am

re: #394 doriangrey

Morning real.... Doing fine... well except for Vet hitting on me... But otherwise fine.... How about yourself?

Later... when you remember it... you'll be flattered.

/and that's when you'll really be creeped out.

401 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:01:16am

re: #398 Miss Trixie

Sausages.

Then I would be blushing if I were you too... ;p

402 pingjockey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:01:16am

Auto bailout dead. Can the Dow hit 6000 today?

403 realwest  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:01:20am

I don't know if this has been posted already, but even if it has, it deserves re-posting:

Brutal Afghan fight earns soldiers 10 Silver Stars

FORT BRAGG, N.C. - Capt. Kyle Walton remembers pressing himself into the jagged stones that covered the cliff in northeast Afghanistan.

Machine gun rounds and sniper fire ricocheted off the rocks. Two rounds slammed into his helmet, smashing his head into the ground. Nearby, three of his U.S. Army Special Forces comrades were gravely wounded. One grenade or a well-aimed bullet, Walton thought, could etch April 6, 2008 on his gravestone.

Walton and his team from the 3rd Battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group had been sent to kill or capture terrorists from a rugged valley that had never been penetrated by U.S. forces - or, they had been told, the Soviets before them.

He peered over the side of the cliff to the dry river bed 60 feet below and considered his options. Could he roll the wounded men off and then jump to safety? Would they survive the fall?

By the end of the six-hour battle deep within the Shok Valley, Walton would bear witness to heroics that on Friday would earn his team 10 Silver Stars, the most awarded for a single battle since the start of the war.

Walton, a Special Forces team leader, and his men described the battle in an interview with The Associated Press last week. Most seem unimpressed they've earned the Army's third-highest award for combat valor.

[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]
Y'all should read it all.

404 akak  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:01:29am

"futures are pounded due to bailout failure" -CNBC

/cept -250 fair value is only average nowadays.

that being said, I wouldn't want to be owning Wells Fargo, MetLife or Prudential today.

405 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:01:41am

re: #398 Miss Trixie

Sausages.

Oh... this is going nowhere good...

406 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:01:52am

re: #395 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I think he meant me... we all know you are hot...

*blush* I will not disturb your impression of me, {Vet}!

407 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:02:42am

Good Morning Lizards!

It is a cold day here in CT. It started out rainy but is starting to dry out. I hope everyone is well today.

This from the local, liberal recycle bin filler:

Former Manchester High School Teacher Was Popular, Embattled

'Embattled' huh?

His disciplinary record, released Thursday, reveals a long history of reprimands, including an order from the school system to undergo anger management classes. Earlier this year he signed a "Last Chance Agreement" and knew he would be fired if he was disciplined again.

In his eight years at Manchester High, Proctor-Floyd was disciplined at least seven times before for showing an R-rated movie, failing to leave lesson plans for substitutes, having a loud argument with another staff member, leaving students unattended and driving students off school grounds for lunch.

Following an incident in March, he was suspended for five days without pay for showing his film students the entire movie "Crash," even though, officials said, he had been told not to show explicit sex scenes. Proctor-Floyd admitted he also did not get the required parental permission slips to show the movie.

He signed the "Last Chance Agreement" with the school system in April, making it clear that he would be fired if he violated the movie policy again, had any inappropriate interactions with students or employees, failed to leave lesson plans or retaliated against people who investigated complaints about him.

"Mr. Proctor-Floyd's employment is in serious jeopardy," the agreement said.

His latest trouble occurred Nov. 6, when David Maloney, the head of the social studies department, was checking on Proctor-Floyd's class and saw "Krush Groove" being shown. He checked the lesson plan and the movie's rating and then turned off the video. Administrators determined that Proctor-Floyd had told the substitute to show the movie, even though it is not on the school's approved list of R-rated movies and he did not get parental permission slips.

And yet there are many people trying to get him reinstated. Sometimes I really wonder if I want to bring my daughter up in this state.

408 Miss Trixie  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:03:01am

{realwest} Good morning, luv *smoochie-smooch*

Saaaaaay. Is that a new shirt? Very nice - matches your eyes.

409 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:04:05am

re: #406 scottishbuzzsaw

*blush* I will not disturb your impression of me, {Vet}!

I believe it was decisively proven, yesterday, that Lizardettes are, by definition, hot.

410 SteveC  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:04:15am

re: #386 realwest

Well good morning y'all - from a coldish (41 degrees, going up to 53 degrees), bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone this fine morning?

Mornin'! All is well here! Dad had cataract surgery, no big deal. Wham Bang, it's done.

411 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:04:26am

re: #398 Miss Trixie

Sausages.

Do you prefer sweet and mild, or hot and spicy?

412 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:04:37am

re: #409 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I believe it was decisively proven, yesterday, that Lizardettes are, by definition, hot.

True dat....... ;)

413 realwest  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:04:52am

re: #389 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Hey LT - You mean I'm 20 degrees colder or warmer?

414 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:05:10am

Just here for a few minutes. We have an early morning special performance this morning for a school group, so I'm out of here in about 10 minutes.

Any politicians self-destruct over night?

415 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:05:14am

re: #411 scottishbuzzsaw

Do you prefer sweet and mild, or hot and spicy?

Obviously the Bacon flavored..... ;O

416 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:05:28am

re: #410 SteveC

Mornin'! All is well here! Dad had cataract surgery, no big deal. Wham Bang, it's done.

Glad to hear it Steve. Eye surgery gives me the willies.

417 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:05:34am

re: #409 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I believe it was decisively proven, yesterday, that Lizardettes are, by definition, hot.

And of course, all Lizards are studs, right?

418 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:05:44am

re: #414 Walter L. Newton

Just here for a few minutes. We have an early morning special performance this morning for a school group, so I'm out of here in about 10 minutes.

Any politicians self-destruct over night?

Emanuel is still taking the 5th

419 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:05:57am

re: #413 realwest

Hey LT - You mean I'm 20 degrees colder or warmer?

Warmer... hence, you win.

Freaking cold here and gonna get worse.

420 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:06:14am

re: #413 realwest

Hey LT - You mean I'm 20 degrees colder or warmer?

Warmer to the Lizardettes.... Colder to those who hit on your Lizardette.... ;p

421 kafir lover  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:06:19am

Very insightful article by Charles Krauthammer to explain Obama's alleged "shift" to the center and how he will manipulate this time of uncertainty to his advantage. However, with new reports that most major banks are effectively "bankrupt", the tanked economy may turn out to be a saving grace afterall - Transformation is his mission. Crisis provides the opportunity. The election provides him the power.

422 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:06:22am

Golden Colorado, in the 20's right now, high of 55 today. By Sat. night, Sun morning, snow, with a high Sunday of 20.

Snow off and on through Monday. Great way to start the coming week.

423 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:06:47am

re: #417 scottishbuzzsaw

And of course, all Lizards are studs, right?

I don't know about that, but we do have long tongues. ;-)

424 CIA Reject  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:06:52am

re: #407 Ford_Prefect

Good morning Ford!

I suspect the people trying to get this creep reinstated are his fellow NAMBLA members.

swine...

425 Rancher  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:06:54am

re: #367 opnion Plus your keeping that one Quietly crazy person thinking about if your a bigger risk than him so preventing his own much quieter but more violent explosion.

426 pingjockey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:07:02am

re: #414 Walter L. Newton
Not yet. Give them time to ripen!

427 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:07:04am

re: #417 scottishbuzzsaw

And of course, all Lizards are studs, right?

Rather doubtful. Remember we have guys here that proudly go by the name of Fat bastard.

/not pointing at any specific fat bastards, mind you.

428 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:07:08am

re: #417 scottishbuzzsaw

And of course, all Lizards are studs, right?

I dont know about all Lizards.... but this one certainly is..... ;)

429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:07:49am

re: #414 Walter L. Newton

Just here for a few minutes. We have an early morning special performance this morning for a school group, so I'm out of here in about 10 minutes.

So, I'm assuming you're cutting out the nudity?

430 Miss Trixie  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:08:31am

re: #405 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Oh... this is going nowhere good...

*teehee* :D

431 doriangrey  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:08:44am

Well time for this Lizard hunk to be off and running like a herd of turtles... I owe I owe so off to work I go..... ;p

432 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:08:45am

re: #428 doriangrey

I dont know about all Lizards.... but this one certainly is..... ;)

Me too, me too (flicking tongue out and in really fast, lizard eyes bugging out, tail straight up)

433 Nevergiveup  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:08:46am

re: #427 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Rather doubtful. Remember we have guys here that proudly go by the name of Fat bastard.

/not pointing at any specific fat bastards, mind you.

Maybe it's one of them reverse nickname things? Or maybe not?

434 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:08:51am

re: #428 doriangrey

I dont know about all Lizards.... but this one certainly is..... ;)

Someone take away his whip cream... he's had enough. Jeez.

435 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:09:00am

re: #424 CIA Reject

Good morning Ford!

I suspect the people trying to get this creep reinstated are his fellow NAMBLA members.

swine...

Yeah. "driving students off school grounds for lunch." Like that didja. Makes you wonder.

436 reine.de.tout  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:09:06am

Good morning Dorian, Scotti, Realwest - well, everyone!

We have a gorgeous day today in south Louisiana, after a sneaux day yesterday!

437 Miss Trixie  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:09:16am

re: #411 scottishbuzzsaw

Do you prefer sweet and mild, or hot and spicy?

Yes.

:D

438 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 6:09:19am