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Life is tough, but it’s tougher when you’re stupid.

John Wayne

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1 gmsc  Fri, Dec 12, 2008 11:59:02pm

Is there anyone here, or did I finish you all off in the last thread?

2 astronmr20  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:01:17am

re: #1 gmsc

Is there anyone here, or did I finish you all off in the last thread?

Now that sounds a big racy.

3 astronmr20  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:01:24am

bit

4 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:01:41am

Looks like just the few of us

5 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:02:14am

re: #2 astronmr20

Now that sounds a big racy.

Unfortunately, it wasn't that exciting.

I linked to a lullaby song, and for 15 minutes, no one posted. I figured I put them all to sleep.

6 astronmr20  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:03:24am

I am impervious to lullabies, unless it happens to be sung to me by a beautiful woman whose breast my head would be resting on.

7 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:03:40am

re: #4 GOPManHatTanIte

Looks like just the few of us

Hey, 3 is more than what was in the last thread.

More fruitcup for us!

8 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:03:49am

ooo whale wars is on...i dont know why but i love that show

9 astronmr20  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:04:29am

re: #8 GOPManHatTanIte

ooo whale wars is on...i dont know why but i love that show

Is that the one where the moonbats harass the Japenese fishermen?

10 Fearless Fred  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:04:31am

I guess everyone's here at [Link: www.missworld.com...] "anyone who lists reindeer steak as her favorite food can't be all bad" ...

11 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:04:40am

re: #6 astronmr20

I am impervious to lullabies, unless it happens to be sung to me by a beautiful woman whose breast my head would be resting on.

Well, it was sung by Ann Margaret (The next 15 minutes of silence on this board brought to you by a lullaby! ;)

12 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:05:00am

re: #7 gmsc

i prefer the snack pak pudding snacks that you very much haha

13 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:05:16am
Life is tough, but it’s tougher when you’re stupid.

Since the quote came from John Wayne - you know the moonbats aren't listening or paying attention to this golden advice.

14 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:05:36am

re: #11 gmsc

Well, it was sung by Ann Margaret (The next 15 minutes of silence on this board brought to you by a lullaby! ;)

zzz

15 Salem  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:05:43am

I thought ignorance was bliss.

16 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:05:54am

re: #9 astronmr20

yea but its soo terribly mismanaged its hilarious

17 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:06:13am

re: #15 Salem

I thought ignorance was bliss.

So, that's why the left is so happy these days!

18 Fearless Fred  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:06:22am

Sorry -- that was a quote from Miss Iceland.

19 astronmr20  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:06:38am

re: #11 gmsc

Well, it was sung by Ann Margaret (The next 15 minutes of silence on this board brought to you by a lullaby! ;)

Now that's a stone-age goddess.

20 astronmr20  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:07:52am

gmsc, I think you put everyone to sleep again.

21 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:08:23am

re: #20 astronmr20

gmsc, I think you put everyone to sleep again.

See?

22 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:08:59am

OMG the defense is who told the media the body was Caylee. The Proscecution had to come out and say we are waiting on DNA to confirm.

23 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:09:56am

re: #22 Rancher
They trying to set up a mistrial due to incompetant council?

24 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:10:18am

re: #22 Rancher

OMG the defense is who told the media the body was Caylee. The Proscecution had to come out and say we are waiting on DNA to confirm.

interesting ploy.

25 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:10:51am

re: #19 astronmr20

oo man this whale wars moonbat is truly a loon...stink and soap bombs seem to be their main weaponry...if you're gonna be a menace at least do it with a pair haha...might as well throw toilet paper at them haha

26 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:11:08am

re: #20 astronmr20

gmsc, I think you put everyone to sleep again.

zzz

27 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:11:54am

re: #24 gmsc

hmmm the chewbaka defense interesting...

28 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:12:09am

re: #26 Athos

zzz

I'm going to start a napping service in my home for tots. Apparently I have a knack for getting them to sleep.

29 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:13:12am

re: #24 gmsc

interesting ploy.

Our client is so irretrievably narcissistic and a sociopath...any consideration of the death penalty has to be eliminated before we change our plea...

30 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:13:20am

Random thought of the evening: French Lick is probably the 'A Boy Named Sue' of Indiana towns...

31 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:13:26am

re: #27 GOPManHatTanIte

hmmm the chewbaka defense interesting...

I didn't think of that - the Chewbacca Defense!

32 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:13:39am

re: #28 gmsc

I'm going to start a napping service in my home for tots. Apparently I have a knack for getting them to sleep.


Ha they have thouse in NYC for us adults...but they charge you 50$ for 20 min in a sleep pod haha i guess they must pride themselves on moonbats serving moonbats

33 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:13:43am

re: #28 gmsc

I'm going to start a napping service in my home for tots. Apparently I have a knack for getting them to sleep.

Better than killing the threads.

34 SurferDoc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:13:59am

Tap, tap...Is this thing on?

35 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:14:39am

It's on but GMSC and Nana put everyone to sleep in last thread

36 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:15:10am

re: #34 SurferDoc

Tap, tap...Is this thing on?

The mike's on . . . the audience is off.

37 SurferDoc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:15:55am

We could go through their pockets and look for loose change.

38 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:15:59am

re: #36 gmsc

The mike's on . . . the audience is off.

Hey, we're not 'off', we're just eccentric.

39 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:16:08am

re: #36 gmsc

The mike's on . . . the audience is off.

Im still waiting for the applasue light above my screen to go on...its been a while

40 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:17:22am

re: #39 GOPManHatTanIte

Im still waiting for the applasue light above my screen to go on...its been a while

Damn cfl bulbs...

41 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:17:35am

Ha those crazy moonbats just flipped their own zodiac then it cut to the craziest moonbat reading bad poetry

42 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:17:41am

I have yet to see an episode of Whale Wars, but I just got through watching Shadow Force on the History Channel. Imagine the hippies from Whale Wars trying to have a beer and swap 'war stories' with some of these battle-hardened South African, Biritish and American mercs...

43 LEGION  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:18:43am

I have a cool picture of Cowboy John Wayne in front of an American Flag backdrop next to my telephone- He says: Now just why in the HELL do I have to press '1' for English?

44 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:19:27am

re: #42 Fenway_Nation

I have yet to see an episode of Whale Wars, but I just got through watching Shadow Force on the History Channel. Imagine the hippies from Whale Wars trying to have a beer and swap 'war stories' with some of these battle-hardened South African, Biritish and American mercs...

Hahaha yea that shadow force is excellent i think i saw one with pirates the other day...but yea hippies dont make good soldiers

45 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:20:06am

re: #42 Fenway_Nation

I have yet to see an episode of Whale Wars, but I just got through watching Shadow Force on the History Channel. Imagine the hippies from Whale Wars trying to have a beer and swap 'war stories' with some of these battle-hardened South African, Biritish and American mercs...

Hmm...I wonder what would have happened if Shadow Force met French Intel - my guess...no arrests in NZ.

BTW - Bruin logo now? Ouch. Guess Burnett's decision to sign with Yanks to join CC makes the B's an alternative.

46 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:20:42am

Now on Nancy Grace police are confident body is Caylee.

47 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:21:30am

re: #45 Athos

BTW - Bruin logo now? Ouch. Guess Burnett's decision to sign with Yanks to join CC makes the B's an alternative.

But the b's look like they might be going places...

48 LEGION  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:21:37am

Ahhh patoeee on Nancy Grace and her network- Fox News ONLY!

49 LEGION  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:22:22am

It's the new stadium mystique- the Yanks have it locked up this year. Boston is going to the basement- where they belong.

50 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:23:06am

re: #46 Rancher

Now on Nancy Grace police are confident body is Caylee.

hmm Nancy looks a little tanner tonight...and less like she wants to rip off my head and suck the sweet nectar of life from my marrow

(sarcasm included)

51 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:23:10am

re: #46 Rancher

Now on Nancy Grace police are confident body is Caylee.

Yeah - The police and prosecution is waiting for the 'i's' to be dotted and the 't's' to be crossed before announcing it formally, but it does seem as if that is Caylee.

52 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:23:52am

re: #48 LEGION

Ahhh patoeee on Nancy Grace and her network- Fox News ONLY!

Yea but fox news didnt even put a (D) next to blag

53 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:25:09am

re: #49 LEGION

It's the new stadium mystique- the Yanks have it locked up this year. Boston is going to the basement- where they belong.

I'm a Yank fan since '64 - but I don't think the Sox are going basement - wild card at best...but not basement. This part of the worldwill right itself in 09.

#27 coming...

54 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:25:14am

re: #48 LEGION
I dislike CNN in general I love listening to Nancy talk trash tho. Just caught it flipping by and was hoping this case is finally resolved so stopped a bit to see the breaking news.

55 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:26:50am

Is that you Rustler?

56 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:26:59am

HAHA half of the moonbats on that whale wars boat just left when they got back into port haha

57 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:27:26am

re: #55 Sharmuta
Yeppers

58 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:28:15am

re: #57 Rancher

Darlin'- you forgot to mention to your Dad about his blogroll. He got called out on it on the last ID thread.

59 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:28:58am

Just watching O'Reilly's Blago talking Points online. I'm learning some stuff I didn't know already!

60 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:29:21am

re: #58 Sharmuta
Lol I mentioned it but thought you meant the folks on his blog not the blog links he had.

61 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:30:33am

re: #45 Athos


BTW - Bruin logo now? Ouch.

Nothing 'ouch' about 20-5-4; I was doing this last year when the B's were much closer to .500 (and fortunate to be considered a .500 team). I tend to change it up a little in the off-season between the spoked 'B', the 'Flying Elvis' or Baldwin the Eagle (lizard remembertonyc has the Celts mascot as his avatar).

62 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:31:03am

re: #60 Rancher

Well- he's gonna take care of it, he said. That's good, but I felt bad my alert hadn't helped.

63 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:32:24am

re: #53 Athos

#27 coming...

So's Armageddon...we'll see which arives first.

64 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:33:09am

My new 0bama poster- Change!

65 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:34:28am

re: #64 Sharmuta

My new 0bama poster- Change!

Or should I call it "Change we can believe in"?

66 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:35:33am

re: #62 Sharmuta He should have plenty of time to work on it tomorrow hotel is slowing considerably and hes doing a 12-8 tomorrow so maybe he will fix it then.

67 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:36:41am

re: #65 Sharmuta
Nah I don't belive in corruption heh. Maybe Change He can believe in.

68 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:36:43am

re: #61 Fenway_Nation

Well, we have to see how they get through January - the Jan. slump is always make or break...

At least the B's aren't as tough to see as Dead Sox or Celtics logos... (sorry, know Beantown, but not Beantown fan. Remember attending 3 of the 4 games of 78's Boston Massacre sitting in CF bleachers and loving it...)

69 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:37:09am

Did you hear about this woman in Shanghai? Her Chevy SUV was going to be towed - it was already had its back end lifted up by the tow truck.

After unsuccessfully trying to stop the towing, she asked if she could remove a few things from her car. When they said yes, she opened the door, switch her car to front wheel drive, started the car, and drove off with the tow truck!

70 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:37:11am

re: #65 Sharmuta

Or should I call it "Change we can believe in"?

But it is change...change as in new IL governor...

71 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:39:02am

re: #69 gmsc

Did you hear about this woman in Shanghai? Her Chevy SUV was going to be towed - it was already had its back end lifted up by the tow truck.

After unsuccessfully trying to stop the towing, she asked if she could remove a few things from her car. When they said yes, she opened the door, switch her car to front wheel drive, started the car, and drove off with the tow truck!

If you want to see this for yourself, go to FOX News video, click on the NEWS section, then click on FOX News Blast, and finally, select the video called "Santa Suited Penguins" - her segment is the last section of that video.

72 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:39:04am

re: #70 Athos
Isn't just about every politician in Ill. due for a change. This way it gives others a chance to prove they are just as corrupt.

73 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:40:17am

re: #68 Athos


Probably not half as much as I loved the '04 ALCS. But I'll let you get back to reminiscing fondly about all those great postseason games from 2008 in the House That Ruth Built Epstein Demolished.

74 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:40:27am

re: #72 Rancher

Isn't just about every politician in Ill. due for a change. This way it gives others a chance to prove they are just as corrupt.

On that basis, aren't a few others not from IL due for a change... ties to Freddie / Fannie, smelly tourist complaints, etc

75 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:41:22am

re: #72 Rancher

Isn't just about every politician in Ill. due for a change. This way it gives others a chance to prove they are just as corrupt.

Especially if Blago gets offered a deal for leniency after being indicted - then Dems connected to Chicago will really start to panic!

76 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:41:35am

re: #73 Fenway_Nation

Probably not half as much as I loved the '04 ALCS. But I'll let you get back to reminiscing fondly about all those great postseason games from 2008 in the House That Ruth Built Epstein Demolished.

Touche

77 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:41:55am

re: #74 Athos

On that basis, aren't a few others not from IL due for a change... ties to Freddie / Fannie, smelly tourist complaints, etc

Reid comes up for reelection in 2010 - and I promise to do my part to get him out!

78 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:42:19am

By it's definition, "corruption" would be altering for the worse something already established, therefore, it's "change".

79 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:42:19am

re: #74 Athos Nah the bar is set a bit HIgher in Crook County. They have to really prove themselves corrupt like by selling senate seats or something.
Rustler

80 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:43:30am

You'll see more true change in this 3-minute video than you will in the entire time 0bama is in office!

81 Salamantis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:44:07am

re: #65 Sharmuta

Or should I call it "Change we can believe in"?

Maybe: Change We Can Prosecute?

82 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:44:12am

re: #78 Sharmuta
But if corruption is the norm in Illinois politics is it really change.

83 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:45:20am

re: #81 Salamantis

Maybe: Change We Can Prosecute?

Here's hoping!

84 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:46:05am

re: #81 Salamantis
Now there is a motto we as lizards need to embrace.

85 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:46:46am

re: #81 Salamantis

Maybe: Change We Can Prosecute?

Works for me!

re: #83 Sharmuta

Here's hoping!

C'mon guys! She deserves more updings than just 1 for a hope/change joke!

86 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:46:51am

Hey folks.
Anything shaking tonight?

87 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:46:51am

re: #82 Rancher

But if corruption is the norm in Illinois politics is it really change.

If they take it national, I would think so. Though, perhaps tfk would say we already have it.

88 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:47:22am

re: #78 Sharmuta
Btw the Pic is great it's the motto "change we can believe in" that I disagree with.

89 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:47:35am

re: #81 Salamantis

Maybe: Change We Can Prosecute?

Unfortunately, the mantra for the Obama insider's isn't 'Change' but 'Plausible Deniability'...

They didn't let illegal campaign contributions...'someone' turned off the ecom security checks...

They didn't police and censor the website...the 'people' did.

90 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:48:02am

re: #86 Spare O'Lake

We're discussing my 0bama poster. Thoughts?

91 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:48:25am

re: #85 gmsc
though I had lol done now.

92 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:48:32am

re: #86 Spare O'Lake

Hey folks.
Anything shaking tonight?

0bama's team in their boots over the Blago scandal!


/Oh, and I discoverd I have the power to put people to sleep!

93 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:48:50am

re: #90 Sharmuta

We're discussing my 0bama poster. Thoughts?

Lenin or Stalin would be proud...such nice muted colors...

94 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:48:51am

re: #88 Rancher

Btw the Pic is great it's the motto "change we can believe in" that I disagree with.

Hmm... why? It's change, and you better believe it's coming.

95 Salamantis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:49:17am

re: #89 Athos

Unfortunately, the mantra for the Obama insider's isn't 'Change' but 'Plausible Deniability'...

They didn't let illegal campaign contributions...'someone' turned off the ecom security checks...

They didn't police and censor the website...the 'people' did.

Well, they hope they can defend...;~)

96 Athos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:49:31am

re: #94 Sharmuta

Hmm... why? It's change, and you better believe it's coming.

Or Else...

97 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:50:42am

Perhaps all the scandal drama will be good in the sense it will keep 0bama ineffective at implementing his policies.

98 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:51:25am

re: #90 Sharmuta

We're discussing my 0bama poster. Thoughts?

Now that's black humour.

99 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:51:44am

re: #94 Sharmuta
Cause it's a change I oppose not one I believe in nor is it one that I feel the American people should embrace or we will just have little Obama clones running around. Change, it's coming or the like would be better but the "You can believe in" sounds like a support on the position.

100 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:52:16am

re: #98 Spare O'Lake
Racist.

101 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:52:44am

re: #100 Rancher
Bah forgot to add///

102 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:52:51am

re: #99 Rancher

Well- I don't disagree with you. I was just trying to hijack his mantra.

103 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:53:05am

re: #100 Rancher

LOL

104 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:53:27am

"Adding up this week for Obama, you have Rev. Wright wrong again, Ayers still making excuses for his terrorism, and the corrupt Illinois gov. putting Obama's Senate seat up for sale."
Bill O'Reilly

105 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:53:52am

re: #92 gmsc

0bama's team in their boots over the Blago scandal!


/Oh, and I discoverd I have the power to put people to sleep!

*snore*
*snore*
...huh, did you say somethin'?

106 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:54:12am

re: #102 Sharmuta Yeah I got the hijack just adding it made it seem to supportive of the corruption in context.

107 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:54:55am

re: #106 Rancher

Yeah I got the hijack just adding it made it seem to supportive of the corruption in context.

Then I shan't do it again.

108 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:55:04am

re: #105 Spare O'Lake

*snore*
*snore*
...huh, did you say somethin'?

I guess I have a new nickname!

109 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:57:39am

I'm still bummed to hear that Bettie Paige passed away...

110 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:58:20am

If any of you would like to join in on the fun, here's the link:

Make Your Own 0bama Poster

/hat tip: Syrah

111 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:59:15am

re: #109 Fenway_Nation Better that she seemed to have passed fast than to have lingered in a state of pain for weeks or months.

112 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:01:33am

re: #111 Rancher

Better that she seemed to have passed fast than to have lingered in a state of pain for weeks or months.

Reports are still divided between heart attack, pneumonia or coma.

While talking about it, they were showing some letters people left at her home, including one that read, "We know you're tempting the angels now!"

113 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:01:45am

re: #111 Rancher


Understood...I'm still sad in the sense that it's truly the end of an era.

/we need some sort of pin-up revival

114 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:01:53am

Gee- could we go so far as to paraphrase rev. wright and say 0bama's chickens are coming home to roost?

115 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:02:06am

Here is mine. There wasn't room for Shit, now I'm responsible.

116 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:03:03am

It's 1:00 am here on the west coast, and Barry Manilow is currently RickRollin' the Jimmy Kimmel audience. WTF?

117 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:03:17am

re: #113 Fenway_Nation

If Mandy was here, you'd get a *whack*.

118 Salamantis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:04:20am

Here's mine:

Image: 61429a.jpg

119 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:05:05am

re: #113 Fenway_Nation

Understood...I'm still sad in the sense that it's truly the end of an era.

/we need some sort of pin-up revival

re: #117 Sharmuta

If Mandy was here, you'd get a *whack*.

I think that's what Fenway is going for . . .
;)

120 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:05:46am
121 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:05:50am

re: #118 Salamantis

Here's mine:

[Link: www.pentdego.com...]

How about "Courage of His Convictions?" (Probably too long to fit in there)

122 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:06:32am

re: #116 Slumbering Behemoth

It's 1:00 am here on the west coast, and Barry Manilow is currently RickRollin' the Jimmy Kimmel audience. WTF?

It could be worse. Manilow could be doing a duet with Morrisey.

123 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:07:15am

re: #121 gmsc

Yeah would truncate around the v in convictions. It's like 18-20 characters.

124 Salamantis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:07:20am
125 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:09:02am

The scandal certainly can't be helping with 0bama's smoking.

126 Buster Bunny  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:10:30am

Ah Barry Manilow. Mankinds first effort into the fact that evolution still produces apes that sing.

/Corse I like his songs !

127 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:10:38am

re: #125 Sharmuta I wonder if he will continue raising taxes on Cig's while in office.

128 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:10:45am

re: #121 gmsc

How about "Courage of His Convictions?" (Probably too long to fit in there)

Maybe if you worded it lolcatz style.

129 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:10:46am

re: #125 Sharmuta

The scandal certainly can't be helping with 0bama's smoking.

Smoker and the Bandit!

130 Salamantis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:11:13am

re: #125 Sharmuta

The scandal certainly can't be helping with 0bama's smoking.

It's probably got him searching for his old stash...;~)

131 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:11:55am

re: #130 Salamantis
Thought Obama's old stash was Coke not weed.

132 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:12:31am

re: #127 Rancher

I wonder if he will continue raising taxes on Cig's while in office.

Why not? Speaking of which...

133 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:12:54am

re: #131 Rancher

Thought Obama's old stash was Coke not weed.

No, I think it was Richard Pryor who got burned by Coke

(...and Michael Jackson by Pepsi!)

134 Salamantis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:13:20am

re: #131 Rancher

Thought Obama's old stash was Coke not weed.

It was both.

135 Buster Bunny  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:13:28am

I just found out that fiat_lux went into blogivion (blog oblivion). Following that I went and checked up the blowout. Maan, he was coming on thick and strong, mostly thick. But close to the fastest karma puddle i've ever seen.

136 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:14:12am

re: #132 Sharmuta
Oh yeah, I forgot he can always buy at the Duty free shop. Who cares about Joe Smoker? Not that I smoke was just curious.

137 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:14:15am

re: #110 Sharmuta

CooL

138 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:14:22am

re: #122 Sharmuta

It could be worse. Manilow could be doing a duet with Morrisey.

Always looking for the silver lining, eh Shar? I kid you not, Manilow was singing "Never Gonna Give You Up" on JKL.

/Morrisey you say. Great excuse to link this completely asinine (yet fun) tune. Pretty much NSFW.

139 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:16:11am

re: #135 Buster Bunny

I just found out that fiat_lux went into blogivion (blog oblivion). Following that I went and checked up the blowout. Maan, he was coming on thick and strong, mostly thick. But close to the fastest karma puddle i've ever seen.

That's it!

140 Buster Bunny  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:16:44am

re: #122 Sharmuta

It could be worse. Manilow could be doing a duet with Morrisey.

Full Circle. Next think you know Pee-Wee Herman Collectables will be kitsch all over again.

141 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:18:00am

re: #140 Buster Bunny
But will they release a limited edition theatre version. And if so will it have kungfu grip and a moveable arm.

142 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:18:13am

re: #138 Slumbering Behemoth

Always looking for the silver lining, eh Shar? I kid you not, Manilow was singing "Never Gonna Give You Up" on JKL.

How about the 0bama version?

143 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:18:21am

re: #138 Slumbering Behemoth

OMG! I had no idea such a wonderfully accurate critique existed.

Thanks {Sleepy B}!

144 Buster Bunny  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:19:12am

re: #139 gmsc

That's it!

Oh HIM? That karma puddle is going to overflow.

Coming soon ... January 20 to a creepy Whitehouse near you ...

Be Afraid .. Be Very Afraid.

145 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:19:49am

re: #142 gmsc

Never do that again!

146 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:21:42am

Today's new word, boys and girls, is: agitprop

147 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:22:13am

re: #145 Sharmuta

Never do that again!

OK, but why not?

148 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:23:32am

re: #147 gmsc

Because if you 0bama Rickroll us again, I will unleash this monstrosity.

149 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:26:20am

re: #148 Sharmuta

Because if you 0bama Rickroll us again, I will unleash this monstrosity.

Understood!

(Wouldn't it be Barackrolling? ;)

150 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:28:47am

re: #142 gmsc

Ze goggles, zey do nuh-zing! ARGH!

re: #143 Sharmuta

I've heard that song called a lot of things, but never heard it called "a wonderfully accurate critique". Never the less, I agree with your assessment.

151 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:29:34am
'Syria must cooperate within three months or be punished'

Schulte told London-based newspaper Asharq Alawsat that "Syria must choose whether it plans to follow in Iran's footsteps or to cooperate."

Schulte said that according to an American investigation, North Korea had not denied involvement in the construction of the alleged Syrian reactor that was reported by foreign media to have been destroyed by Israel in 2007.

If Damascus chooses not to cooperate "there will be a negative reaction and serious questions will be raised," the US envoy cautioned.

Assad must be shaking in his boots.
//IAEA sucks//

152 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:30:21am

re: #150 Slumbering Behemoth

That's because we are kindred spirits.

153 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:31:13am

re: #151 Spare O'Lake

Assad must be shaking in his boots.
//IAEA sucks//

What's the threat? More paperwork? The comfy chair?

154 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:33:22am

re: #153 gmsc

What's the threat? More paperwork? The comfy chair?

Worse- they will be put on intense GAZE mode. The horror!

155 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:36:40am

Happy Holidays from the same dude that brought you the "Dusty Zombies".

Probably NSFW.

156 redc1c4  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:37:37am

re: #110 Sharmuta

If any of you would like to join in on the fun, here's the link:

Make Your Own 0bama Poster

/hat tip: Syrah

take 1

take 2

take 3

157 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:39:06am

re: #156 redc1c4

take 1

take 2

take 3

And I wish I could give you three dings.

But in the spirit of Chicago politics, you have to give me red brand fruitcup for the one ding I did give you. ;)

158 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:41:47am

re: #157 Sharmuta


I thought the spirit of Chicago politics was to have all the dings attributed to banned or inactive posters.

159 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:42:05am

re: #156 redc1c4

Take 4. Just for a little word double play.

160 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:43:04am

re: #152 Sharmuta

That may very well be the case.

G'nite Lizards.

161 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:43:47am

re: #158 Fenway_Nation

Pay for Play, Baby. What the [bleep]? Don't you [bleep]ing know that? [BLEEP]

162 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:44:59am

re: #154 Sharmuta

Worse- they will be put on intense GAZE mode. The horror!

The only "serious question" that is raised is why anyone with half a brain would assume that Iran and Syria give a flying f**k what the IAEA says?

163 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:45:04am

And I hope Fenway knows how tongue in cheek that was.

164 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:45:26am

re: #161 Sharmuta

Appreciation, I don't need no stinking appreciation. Candidate 5 will give me something.

165 redc1c4  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:46:03am

re: #157 Sharmuta

And I wish I could give you three dings.

But in the spirit of Chicago politics, you have to give me red brand fruitcup for the one ding I did give you. ;)

take one fruitcup and call me in the morning...

(you *will* call, won't you? %-)

166 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:47:19am
Appreciation, I don't need no stinking appreciation. Candidate 5 will give me something tangible.

had to fix it.

167 Throbert McGee  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:47:21am

re: #122 Sharmuta

It could be worse. Manilow could be doing a duet with Morrisey.

Speaking of Morrisey (though not the same Morrisey), I just put up a link to a nice bedtime story on the linky-thingy -- a retelling of Genesis chapter 3, with a little twist at the end. Here it is again.

168 Crux Australis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:48:21am

re: #110 Sharmuta

If any of you would like to join in on the fun, here's the link:

Make Your Own 0bama Poster

/hat tip: Syrah

My Take

169 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:49:15am

re: #168 Crux Australis

Obama the panhandler. rofl

170 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:49:19am

Sequential Style (upding to red for partial inspiration):

Sign 1

Sign 2

Sign 3

Sign 4

Sign 5

171 redc1c4  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:50:03am

late, tired, much wine, and Household 6 is due to RTB today... so it's time to take out the empties, etc...

hasta y'all... %-)

L8r!

172 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:51:10am

re: #164 Rancher

Appreciation, I don't need no stinking appreciation. Candidate 5 will give me something.

You bet!

173 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:51:23am

re: #168 Crux Australis

My Take

Bigger version
(This is still your link, I just took the word "smaller" out of it.)

174 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:52:08am

re: #170 gmsc

Nice!

175 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:52:09am

re: #171 redc1c4

late, tired, much wine, and Household 6 is due to RTB today... so it's time to take out the empties, etc...

hasta y'all... %-)

L8r!

Good night, red!

176 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:52:54am

re: #172 Sharmuta
awesome they came out quick with that.

177 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:53:49am
178 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:53:50am

anyone left?

179 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:55:18am

re: #178 GOPManHatTanIte
Just crickets it looks like I'm semi here.

180 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:55:25am

re: #167 Throbert McGee

Whoa- that's more reading than I can handle at the moment. So, I stuck it in my favorites, and I shall read it over my morning cuppa, and report back. I saw you link it in the spy though, so I do want to read it, and like how you link to LGF there. Cute.

With that, I'm off Lizards. Good night!

181 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:56:00am

night Sharm

182 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:56:50am

One last thing- I see {littleoldlady} is lurking. Love you, lol- save me a fruitcup?

183 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:56:57am

well sounds like good night then...It must be late the same CNN loop is on as when i left, musta caught that three hour cycle...

184 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:57:33am

Btw GOP try your hand at making an Obama poster link is in Sharm's 110 above.

185 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:57:38am

re: #180 Sharmuta

Whoa- that's more reading than I can handle at the moment. So, I stuck it in my favorites, and I shall read it over my morning cuppa, and report back. I saw you link it in the spy though, so I do want to read it, and like how you link to LGF there. Cute.

With that, I'm off Lizards. Good night!

Good night! We'll save you a fruitcup!

186 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:58:19am

AM crew due soon if you hang around.

187 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:59:25am

/emote Lables some week old red fruitcup for Sharm and puts it in the fridge.

188 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:59:46am

The Way I Feel

Good night folks.

189 littleoldlady  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

190 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:00:27am

Is it just me, or does the latest version of The Day The Earth Stood Still seem like a preachy greenie retread of the original?

191 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:01:38am

Aren't all the current remakes of the older classics the same. re: #190 Fenway_Nation

192 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:02:45am

Morning LoL.

193 littleoldlady  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:03:34am

Rancher/Rustler! :-)

194 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:05:31am

Rustler

try it its fun

If any of you would like to join in on the fun, here's the link:

Make Your Own 0bama Poster

/hat tip: Syrah

195 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:05:37am

re: #189 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Yum!

Oh, Sharmuta said to save one fruitcup for her!

196 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:06:03am

re: #110 Sharmuta

bah there it is

197 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:06:13am

re: #190 Fenway_Nation

Is it just me, or does the latest version of The Day The Earth Stood Still seem like a preachy greenie retread of the original?

You mean the brand new "The Day The Earth Stood in the Balance"? Yep!

198 littleoldlady  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:06:23am

gmsc! :-)

Natch!

199 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:13:08am

All I know is that there's a movie out there that features an awkward, gangly-looking humanoid from another world who preaches about the evils of industrialization and technology and warns of our impending doom unless we revert back to some sort of backwards developing nation...

Oh wait...that was An Inconvenient Truth

200 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:16:35am

re: #199 Fenway_Nation

Im super cereal guys ManBearPig is in the cave of the winds

201 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:18:00am

re: #200 GOPManHatTanIte

Im super cereal guys ManBearPig is in the cave of the winds

Manbearpig!

202 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:18:58am

Ha i think that has got to be one of the best shows on television

203 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:19:52am

How do you stop your car from being towed? Here's how!

204 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:22:26am

re: #202 GOPManHatTanIte

Ha i think that has got to be one of the best shows on television

I'm more a Futurama guy myself, but when South Park wants to be, it can be a great show!

205 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:23:51am

re: #204 gmsc

Yea futurama is one of my ATF's as well i still havent seen beat with a billon backs or whatever the movie was...good i assume?

206 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:25:43am

re: #203 gmsc

How do you stop your car from being towed? Here's how!

Gotta love front wheel drive

207 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:26:04am

re: #205 GOPManHatTanIte

Yea futurama is one of my ATF's as well i still havent seen beat with a billon backs or whatever the movie was...good i assume?

I did like "billion backs" better than "bender's big score" (time travel shows can get hard to follow quickly!). At first, you're asking yourself, "Is this really Futurama?!? As the plot develops, you realize it's definitely Futurama!

208 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:27:04am

re: #207 gmsc

I did like "billion backs" better than "bender's big score" (time travel shows can get hard to follow quickly!). At first, you're asking yourself, "Is this really Futurama?!? As the plot develops, you realize it's definitely Futurama!

I might even download that one legally

209 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:27:17am

Did we lose Fenway, Rancher and littleoldlady?

210 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:28:09am

re: #208 GOPManHatTanIte

I might even download that one legally

I'd share my favorite line from the movie with you, but it gives away too much!

211 littleoldlady  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:29:22am

I was watching this.

212 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:29:47am

I'm more a Venture Brothers kind of guy...

213 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:30:23am

I'm still semi here.
Rustler laughing while I watch an automatron save a bus. When he got off the dope he was on for Bill and Ted he lost whatever emotion he had.

214 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:32:01am

Well, I'm getting sleepy (after having that effect on so many others tonight!), so I'm going to turn in!

Good night, all! Thanks for the fun!

215 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:32:55am

So did I hear correctly that Fiat_lux finallt prolapsed on the last ID thread?
Rustler

216 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:33:10am

Nite gmsc- don't let the ManBearPig bite!

217 littleoldlady  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:33:14am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

218 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:33:38am

re: #212 Fenway_Nation

I'm more a Venture Brothers kind of guy...

Love that show as well...have we been over that before i feel like we might have gone over that before...

the hunter s. thompson character...nuff said

219 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:35:11am

re: #218 GOPManHatTanIte

Did you catch the very end of Season 3? Without giving too much away, looks like he'll figure prominently in season 4...

220 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:35:34am

Family guy, futurama, Venture bros are all great.

221 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:36:29am

re: #219 Fenway_Nation

yes i did..."no women no children. thats what separates us from teh baddies"

222 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:36:31am

re: #219 Fenway_Nation
I don't get to watch it regularly :(.

223 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:37:48am

re: #220 Rancher


I'm weaning myself away from anything McFarlane in large part because the love he has for 0bama is only surpassed by the contempt he clearly hold the United States Military in...

224 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:39:20am

re: #223 Fenway_Nation

Good call...they are giving cleveland a spin of too...might have to miss that one; especially when LOST comes back on!

225 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:40:34am

re: #221 GOPManHatTanIte

Brock: What about a Vampire?
Gathers: Le Nostrefau?
Brock: Yeah
Gathers: Technically undead, so you got no beef there. Also fictitous.

226 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:41:01am

re: #223 Fenway_Nation
I've quit buying the DVD's I don't shop based on cemmercials so the ad dollars are wasted on me and I figure enough people watch its not likely to be knocked off the air soon. I'm hoping he starts hitting Obama hard, he may be a contributor to the campaign, but maybe it was just because he saw more opportunity for hijinx there.

227 GOPManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:42:16am

re: #226 Rancher

The ol bait and switch...we can only hope wonder how south park will handle it...not counting the Ocean's episode

228 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:43:28am

re: #227 GOPManHatTanIte Yeah Matt and Trey seem more interested in getting laughs and insulting everyone they can than any open bigotry. Had forgotten to mention them with the other 3.

229 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:45:31am

re: #226 Rancher

The day immediately after 0bama won the election, I read this disgusting piece of dreck from some Canadian rag on how the 0bama administration would be especially difficult for comedians since 0bama was so eloquent and gosh-darned flawless that there'd be nothing to make fun of.

They got the 'nothing there' part right...

230 GopManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:46:47am

re: #228 Rancher

They cant do much worse than the New Yorker already did

231 GopManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:48:03am

re: #229 Fenway_Nation

The day immediately after 0bama won the election, I read this disgusting piece of dreck from some Canadian rag on how the 0bama administration would be especially difficult for comedians since 0bama was so eloquent and gosh-darned flawless that there'd be nothing to make fun of.

They got the 'nothing there' part right...

hmm sounds more like they are covering for the whole issue of race thing or am i being too blunt/unPC

232 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:48:41am

re: #228 Rancher

Allthough they are a bit hard on the religions especially Judaism and to a lesser extent Christianity.

233 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:49:23am

re: #231 GopManHatTanIte

Considering the large number of black comedians nowdays race shouldn't be an issue.

234 GopManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:49:48am

re: #232 Rancher

You know in an earlier season they showed Muhommad and no one made a fuss...

235 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:49:53am

headed out for a few to deliver papers and receipts.

236 Buster Bunny  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:50:33am

re: #229 Fenway_Nation

They got the 'nothing there' part right...

Oh theres gonna be loads of nothing. Loads of nothing for everyone.

237 Buster Bunny  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:52:45am

re: #231 GopManHatTanIte

hmm sounds more like they are covering for the whole issue of race thing or am i being too blunt/unPC

I find the whole issue of political correctness actually quite abhorrent. Its a silencer mechanism on minority critique, but now its being used as a hammer to get into a lot of doors where it just aint deserved.

You give an inch .. and they will take a mile.

238 GopManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:52:55am

re: #233 Rancher

Considering the large number of black comedians nowdays race shouldn't be an issue.

But how many black comedians are in the LENO/LETTERMAN/CONAN/Daily Show/Colbert Report time slot...i know if i were Leno or Letterman i would not only be a moonbat but a little weary or poking fun for fear of offending...then again maybe ive been reading too much of Ann Coulter's blog

239 GopManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:54:02am

re: #237 Buster Bunny

I find the whole issue of political correctness actually quite abhorrent. Its a silencer mechanism on minority critique, but now its being used as a hammer to get into a lot of doors where it just aint deserved.

You give an inch .. and they will take a mile.

I'd rather not be politically correct but i also know some of my views may offend people and i'm too nice to do that too often haha

240 GopManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:58:23am

ha actually now that i think about it south park articulated the point better than Coulter..the whole fear of being called a racist being a nouveau form of racism

241 GopManHatTanIte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:00:18am

Well looks like im gonna be hittin the old dusty trail

opps found the fire exit

242 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:06:53am

re: #189 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Morning all late to the party today is there any fruit cup left? Anything happen up thread that is worth reading?

243 littleoldlady  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:19:07am
244 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:20:25am

re: #243 littleoldlady

Oh, hai Erik! :-)

Good Morning lol..How have you been?

245 littleoldlady  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:22:10am

re: #244 HoosierHoops

HOOSIER! :-)

Currently engaging in my end-of-year analysis. I'll let you know. ;-)

246 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:24:41am

Not much happening here tonight. I read up thread that Fiat_lux had a melt down again. Did he finally get the stick or is still looking for bad karma history on LGF?

247 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:25:26am

re: #245 littleoldlady

HOOSIER! :-)

Currently engaging in my end-of-year analysis. I'll let you know. ;-)

It's good to see you.. Our son got married 2 weeks ago and I'm on use or lose vacation.. What to do? what to do? :)

248 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:27:37am

re: #246 Erik The Red

Not much happening here tonight. I read up thread that Fiat_lux had a melt down again. Did he finally get the stick or is still looking for bad karma history on LGF?

mmm an ID thread.. It's natures way of thinning the herd.

249 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:28:56am

Life is tough, but it’s tougher when you’re stupid Obama.

Fixed.

250 littleoldlady  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:31:19am

re: #247 HoosierHoops

OH! MAZEL TOV! :-)

Weddings always cheer me up.

/so...why wasn't I invited?!
;-)

251 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:32:12am

O'reilly got a debate about Olympia and is now playing it for all to see on Fox.

252 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:34:11am

re: #250 littleoldlady

OH! MAZEL TOV! :-)

Weddings always cheer me up.

/so...why wasn't I invited?!
;-)

He got married in his Marine dress up clothes..Very handsome.
He is going to Japan in a couple of weeks..we are very proud of him

253 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:37:24am

re: #252 HoosierHoops Nice and congrats.

254 JamesTKirk  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:39:06am

LIFE IS HARD, BUT IT'S HARDEST WHEN YOU'RE DUMB
(Mark Graham)

Life is hard, but life is hardest when you're dumb
No joie de vivre, just endless hours of tedium
With a negative IQ,
You'll be lonely, sad, and blue
Life is hard, but life is hardest when you're dumb

Life is hard, but life is hardest when you're dumb
You wait for years but inspiration never comes
Thoughts you don't have remain unheard
'Cause you can not find the words
Life is hard, but life is hardest when you're dumb

Life is hard, but life is hardest when you're dumb
Between your ears a dark and silent vac-u-um
If there's a void behind your face,
Why not rent out the vacant space
Life is hard, but life is hardest when you're dumb

Life is hard, but life is hardest when you're dumb
Why not just lay back and smoke a bowl of opium
If being stupid is your fate,
Well just relax 'cause it's too late
Life is hard, but life is hardest when you're dumb

255 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:39:12am

re: #252 HoosierHoops

He got married in his Marine dress up clothes..Very handsome.
He is going to Japan in a couple of weeks..we are very proud of him

Any pics you feel comfortable to link to?

256 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:44:46am

re: #255 Erik The Red

Any pics you feel comfortable to link to?

HiYa.. I was going to open a flickr account today... There are a thousand pics of Fallujah i want to post and his wedding...
They are standard pictures of the City and the Marine there.
He gave me pics of a fire fight where the terrorists used women and children as human shields..I won't posts those..They are very disturbing and upsetting.
Fucking Terrorists

257 JamesTKirk  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:45:49am

re: #190 Fenway_Nation

Is it just me, or does the latest version of The Day The Earth Stood Still seem like a preachy greenie retread of the original?

You expected something else?

258 JamesTKirk  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:47:55am

re: #191 Rancher

Aren't all the current remakes of the older classics the same.

259 littleoldlady  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:51:12am

re: #252 HoosierHoops

He got married in his Marine dress up clothes..Very handsome.
He is going to Japan in a couple of weeks..we are very proud of him

That's wonderful! :-)

/I mean, how could you NOT be proud of a son who's a Marine? ;-)

My daughter tells me she'd like to get married, too, and I was thinking of staying home for the holidays and sending her to The Matzoh Ball. (If you can't make it there, you can't make it anywhere! ;-)

Then I realized...I'm finally starting to LIKE her, so she's going to have to wait until I'm done enjoying these good times...

;-)

260 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:53:18am

re: #256 HoosierHoops

Not to sure how this works but I will "blue my name" and if you want to drop me an email with your account details. Would love to see all the photo's. Even the unpleasant ones

261 JamesTKirk  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:56:53am

I'm currently reading a series of books (near-future sci-fi, very pro-Marines and anti-UN) called "The Inheritance Trilogy" by Ian Douglas. I'm on the second one. Ever heard of 'em?

"Semper Mars"
"Luna Marine"
"Europa Strike"

262 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:57:21am

re: #260 Erik The Red

Not to sure how this works but I will "blue my name" and if you want to drop me an email with your account details. Would love to see all the photo's. Even the unpleasant ones

Battle of Fallujah. There are many like this online...amazing. Our guys are awesome

263 TheMatrix31  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:57:34am

Good night everyone. Ruth's Chris steakhouse was excellent, and I realized that straight shots just isn't for me.

264 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:00:14am

re: #263 TheMatrix31

Good night everyone. Ruth's Chris steakhouse was excellent, and I realized that straight shots just isn't for me.

over priced steaks..but good

265 TheMatrix31  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:00:52am

re: #264 HoosierHoops

over priced steaks..but good

Yeah...but I was treated by my buddies so its fine :)

266 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:01:31am

re: #263 TheMatrix31

Good night everyone. Ruth's Chris steakhouse was excellent, and I realized that straight shots just isn't for me.

At least you learned that early in your drinking career. I'm 40 and I forget that every once in a while. Still celebrating? Good on you and enjoy the hang over/s

267 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:02:21am

re: #262 Desert Dog

Battle of Fallujah. There are many like this online...amazing. Our guys are awesome

looking closely..that is the 2/5 marines from Camp Pendleton..Those guys are the best..

268 littleoldlady  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:03:38am

Nice birthday present, Matrix! :-)

269 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:03:56am

re: #267 HoosierHoops

looking closely..that is the 2/5 marines from Camp Pendleton..Those guys are the best..

If I was one of the bad guys, I would not want to fight them. Unless of course, I had a burning desire to meet Allah up close and personally.

270 TheMatrix31  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:04:58am

re: #266 Erik The Red

At least you learned that early in your drinking career. I'm 40 and I forget that every once in a while. Still celebrating? Good on you and enjoy the hang over/s

Nah I'm fine...didn't get messed up or anything. Just had a few drinks but I got sick from the first drink they gave me and a shot. Absolute nastiness.

271 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:05:34am

re: #269 Desert Dog Yeah all these idiots finding out there are no virgins at the end of the tunnel. At least not for them.

272 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:06:01am

re: #262 Desert Dog

Battle of Fallujah. There are many like this online...amazing. Our guys are awesome

God Bless them. Not enough of these contacts were shown to the mass American population. The msm wanted to lose this war so badly.

273 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:06:52am

re: #260 Erik The Red

Not to sure how this works but I will "blue my name" and if you want to drop me an email with your account details. Would love to see all the photo's. Even the unpleasant ones

I will email you monday from work...I don't have email on this laptop.
The smoking hot woman adjusting Jordan's uniform is my wife..so back off.. :)

274 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:07:31am

re: #271 Rancher

Yeah all these idiots finding out there are no virgins at the end of the tunnel. At least not for them.

The temperature is a "bit" higher than they expected too, with all those eternal flames and all

275 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:07:38am

re: #272 Erik The Red
I love that they got British Keeanu giving the report more reporters should be emotionless robots, instead of overemotional panic-mongers.

276 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:08:00am

re: #270 TheMatrix31

Nah I'm fine...didn't get messed up or anything. Just had a few drinks but I got sick from the first drink they gave me and a shot. Absolute nastiness.

Unfortunately that seem to be the right of passage to turning 21. Your buddies try and get fucked up asap.

277 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:08:27am

re: #273 HoosierHoops

lol Thanks

278 TheMatrix31  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:10:06am

re: #276 Erik The Red

Unfortunately that seem to be the right of passage to turning 21. Your buddies try and get fucked up asap.

Seems like I'm a bit mature for that already. Could be a good thing or a bad thing.

279 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:12:56am

re: #278 TheMatrix31

Seems like I'm a bit mature for that already. Could be a good thing or a bad thing.


Good on you at 21. You seem to have your head on straight. Keep it up. We need more youngsters like you.

280 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:15:22am

re: #278 TheMatrix31

Seems like I'm a bit mature for that already. Could be a good thing or a bad thing.

I turned 21 by a camp fire in Oregon by the Ocean with a bottle of Cab.
Later in the morning we got caught naked by the waves by the cops..
my almost most embarrassing moment..I have a few better than that...is it possible? yes

281 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:16:20am

re: #280 HoosierHoops

Who were you naked with with? That is the telling point.

282 TheMatrix31  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:17:42am

re: #280 HoosierHoops

I turned 21 by a camp fire in Oregon by the Ocean with a bottle of Cab.
Later in the morning we got caught naked by the waves by the cops..
my almost most embarrassing moment..I have a few better than that...is it possible? yes

wow lol...I'm definitely a bit stubborn when it comes to my own actions. At any rate, gonna pass out now. Night!

283 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:18:10am

re: #280 HoosierHoops
Better than being woken up mostly nude by the female 1SG from the med unit down the street and having to collect your clothing from their barracks the next morning. Sad thing was I don't know how the clothing was lost or why I passed out on the picnic table outside the barracks, as I'd only gone to help a drunk friend back home.
Rustler

284 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:18:56am

Thankfully January in Fayetteville isn't to cold.

285 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:19:46am

re: #281 Erik The Red

Who were you naked with with? That is the telling point.

Can't remember her name...She had beautiful long black hair...
The cops were laughing like crazy and would not turn off the damn spot lights!
bastards!

286 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:22:25am

Is it a bit of irony when a man named Barry Madoff(pronounced Made off) gets busted trying to Make off with people's money.

287 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:22:43am

re: #285 HoosierHoops

LMAO

288 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:23:04am

And would you invest your money with a man by that name?

289 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:30:11am

One of mine is when I was in the US. Just turned 22 and went back to see if I wanted to settle back. I stayed with my grandparents for 15 months in Lorain Oh. They had a camper van that I used. Bed, sink, water etc. I called it the fcuk truck. My gran. got so concerned after the first month or two of not seeing me come home every night, that she decided that she would provide a jumbo box of condoms on the bed. Together with 3 sets of new sheets. Just before a I left to return to S. Africa I asked here about this. She said she was to young to have great grandkids. Miss her.

290 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:31:43am

re: #287 Erik The Red

LMAO

That's not the worst.. One time for my birthday a bunch of us went to the Silverado Hotel in Napa Valley for a beer tasting..36 beers with great food and music..great fun..
You sip a little of each beer from light to heavy...There was one long line of guys for this one single bathroom.. It was a long line needless to say..
It was a 1 person bathroom but one of my buddies walked in while I was peeing...I'm standing there and he is saying happy birthday and i was going to remember tonight forever.. I'm going whatever and washing my hands..
Then he let's out a blood curdling scream and runs out as fast as he can past the line of guys screaming like a girl.
Needless to say.. I was not happy looking out the door at the group of freaked out guys..the look on their faces! Not..guess I'll never forget walking out of that room.

291 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:37:18am

re: #110 Sharmuta

If any of you would like to join in on the fun, here's the link:

Make Your Own 0bama Poster

/hat tip: Syrah

I know I'm a little late, but here's mine: linkage.

292 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:38:09am

re: #287 Erik The Red

LMAO

You have to have 3 names to be my lawyer.

293 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:39:41am

re: #291 gclaghorn

I know I'm a little late, but here's mine: linkage.

Does this light make me look red?

294 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:40:53am

re: #291 gclaghorn

I know I'm a little late, but here's mine: linkage.

You forgot Change

295 BBev  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:41:02am

Good Mornin all here in the cold North East, Here is a slide show of the Ice strom in New Hampshire. New Hampshire Ice strom

296 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:42:50am

re: #295 BBev

Good Mornin all here in the cold North East, Here is a slide show of the Ice strom in New Hampshire. New Hampshire Ice strom

Good morning BBev..hope today finds you well..

297 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:43:16am

Another one. I went to Orlando last year Nov. to do a LSD trip with my wife. It was just the two of us, no kids for 3 1/2 weeks. Man I thought honeymoon again after 12 years. Because of the jet lag/being out of routine she forgot to take the pill for 3 days early into our trip. I go into a pharmacy with my cousin to buy some prophylactic. BIG mistake. The bastard gets all gay and acts like the condoms are for us when I ask where the are. I have never wanted to kill a family member so much as then. We get to the car and I'm red in the face and pissed off. My wife still tells this story. She got suck a kick out of it. Bitch/

298 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:46:38am

re: #297 Erik The Red

Another one. I went to Orlando last year Nov. to do a LSD trip with my wife. It was just the two of us, no kids for 3 1/2 weeks. Man I thought honeymoon again after 12 years. Because of the jet lag/being out of routine she forgot to take the pill for 3 days early into our trip. I go into a pharmacy with my cousin to buy some prophylactic. BIG mistake. The bastard gets all gay and acts like the condoms are for us when I ask where the are. I have never wanted to kill a family member so much as then. We get to the car and I'm red in the face and pissed off. My wife still tells this story. She got suck a kick out of it. Bitch/


I'll have to admit we have never done an LSD trip..do tell!
LOL

299 BBev  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:49:28am

re: #296 HoosierHoops

Good morning BBev..hope today finds you well..

It does seeing as over 400,000 homes are without power right now and I do. Life is good and just in case I have a generator.

300 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:49:44am

re: #298 HoosierHoops

I'll have to admit we have never done an LSD trip..do tell!
LOL

Is that like a heroin bender?

301 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:51:08am

re: #298 HoosierHoops

I'll have to admit we have never done an LSD trip..do tell!
LOL

LSD. Look See Decide.(A phase used by expats or people looking to emigrate.)

302 BBev  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:51:17am

re: #297 Erik The Red

Thats a good one

303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:51:27am

Ever seen a word in print, looked it up in the dictionary and it turns out that it is a word you use all the time? But just had never seen it spelled out?

304 BlueCanuck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:51:53am

Morning all, got a good sleep last night. Best in a long time. How's everyone this cold winter morning?

/well cold here at least.

305 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:52:10am

Sorry my spelling is bda today.

306 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:52:16am

re: #303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever seen a word in print, looked it up in the dictionary and it turns out that it is a word you use all the time? But just had never seen it spelled out?

All the time.

307 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:53:26am

re: #303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever seen a word in print, looked it up in the dictionary and it turns out that it is a word you use all the time? But just had never seen it spelled out?

Whatt ir ya telking abot?

308 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:53:33am

re: #301 Erik The Red

LSD. Look See Decide.(A phase used by expats or people looking to emigrate.)

OH! LOL I thought you meant LDS trip and you were a mormon...:)

309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:54:14am

re: #306 gclaghorn

really? Feeling so stupid right now. Had seen the word "facetious" before, have used the word "facetious" thousands of times but never connected the two together. Looked it up...

Defining Chagrin

310 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:54:18am

re: #308 HoosierHoops

OH! LOL I thought you meant LDS trip and you were a mormon...:)

ah no/

311 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:55:36am

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

really? Feeling so stupid right now. Had seen the word "facetious" before, have used the word "facetious" thousands of times but never connected the two together. Looked it up...

Defining Chagrin

Good Morning Veggie!

312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:56:29am

re: #311 HoosierHoops

See the Red Sox new road uniforms/logos? I think they're cool.

313 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:56:29am

re: #310 Erik The Red

ah no/

For a while, you have everyone here thinking you are some kind of 60's reject going off with your wife for a 3 1/2 week psychedelic mind expansion...ha ha

314 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:56:39am

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

really? Feeling so stupid right now. Had seen the word "facetious" before, have used the word "facetious" thousands of times but never connected the two together. Looked it up...

Defining Chagrin

Oh, don't feel stupid about it! BTW, good morning!

315 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:58:02am

Obamas can't move into Blair House early
Buzz

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Anybody here have the phone number for Motel 6?

316 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:59:11am

re: #315 nevergiveup

Obamas can't move into Blair House early
Buzz

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Anybody here have the phone number for Motel 6?

Oh, sob. Does anyone have a tissue for our Dear Leader?

/

317 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:59:39am

Report: Detroit papers likely to cut delivery
Published report says Detroit newspapers likely to cut home delivery to 3 days a week

[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

Yeah, like anybody out there reads anyway? And if they cut all references to the Lions they can shrink the sports section also.

318 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:00:11am

re: #315 nevergiveup

Obamas can't move into Blair House early
Buzz

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Anybody here have the phone number for Motel 6?

Clearly the Bushes did this deliberately to delay his entrance to the White House, even if every president before Obama has had only the first five days in the Blair House!

/

319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:00:57am

re: #314 gclaghorn

I'm spending time practicing reading the word "indict". When my eyes scan the word my mind says "in-dict" (like in dictaphone) instead of indite.

I'm probably going to be reading the word "indict" a lot over the next few years, so I should get used to pronouncing it correct in my head.

320 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:01:27am

re: #318 gclaghorn

Clearly the Bushes did this deliberately to delay his entrance to the White House, even if every president before Obama has had only the first five days in the Blair House!

/

I think "The One" wants Bush to move out now

321 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:01:34am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

See the Red Sox new road uniforms/logos? I think they're cool.

I like it.. The secondary hanging sock logo is kindof a throw back logo.
I'm ordering a hat for the collection

322 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:01:53am

re: #318 gclaghorn

I understand them asking, you know...it's "for the children".

323 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:06:59am

who killed the tread?

324 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:08:03am

re: #323 Erik The Red

who killed the tread?Thread

325 BBev  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:08:30am

A tree from fell on it from all the ice.

326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:09:13am

re: #321 HoosierHoops

I like it.. The secondary hanging sock logo is kindof a throw back logo.
I'm ordering a hat for the collection

Celtics are 22-2 (btw). Chris Paul is pretty good though.

327 BlueCanuck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:09:23am

Wasn't me.

/at least I hope not.

328 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:10:32am

Sen. Reid and Rep. Pelosi are proud to announce the new Chrysler Bailout! it gets 75 miles to the gallon and only costs $30,000 (after union wages, benefits and the new federal bureaucratic surcharge)

329 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:11:07am

re: #325 BBev

A tree from fell on it from all the ice.


No ice here except in my scotch. Mid 80's over cast and low humidity. Forecast tomorrow is high 80's sun and high humidity. Going to the beach. Hahahaha/

330 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:11:46am

I probably killed the thread, my poor reading skills must be contagious.

331 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:12:09am

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Which supercilious lizard had the gall to use facetious on this forum.
Rustler

332 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:12:19am

re: #330 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I probably killed the thread, my poor reading skills must be contagious.

Is that one of your spelling words?

333 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:12:45am

re: #330 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I probably killed the thread, my poor reading skills must be contagious.


That or my bad spelling Bule.

334 BBev  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:12:48am

re: #329 Erik The Red

No ice here except in my scotch. Mid 80's over cast and low humidity. Forecast tomorrow is high 80's sun and high humidity. Going to the beach. Hahahaha/

Hell it's going to be 50 here on Monday, Ha take that :-Q

335 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:13:40am

re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Celtics are 22-2 (btw). Chris Paul is pretty good though.

I watched the Celts play last night.. They are a team on a mission.
Rondo is playing like an all star and Ray allen looks 5 years younger..
Just impressive...

336 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:14:53am

Economy hitting College course offerings, but not the 100% moonbat classes.

Classics may get axed at UIC

Faced with potential budget cuts, the University of Illinois at Chicago is considering eliminating all courses in ancient Greek and advanced study in Latin.

Instruction in those areas -- considered pillars of the liberal arts -- would be suspended in 2010, faculty have been told by school officials.

"If we want to be a global university, we have to have classics," said Nanna Marinatos, an internationally known Greek scholar at UIC.

Campus officials declined to comment on the potential changes.

"We are still very much in planning mode, and no final decisions have been made that I am at liberty to speak with you about," Dwight McBride, dean of UIC's College of Liberal Arts, said recently.

But senior associate dean Jessica Williams said in e-mails sent to faculty last month, "The two language tracks will be suspended."

So, subjects that have been studied forever may be gone. But no worry, the PC specialties are going to still be there:

But supporters of the program noted that other subjects have low numbers of majors, including African-American studies and gender and women's studies, which have 28 combined. Both fields are the dean's areas of study.

337 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:16:26am

re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Celtics are 22-2 (btw). Chris Paul is pretty good though.

What's it like to have a team that plays defense and rebounds?

As I Bulls fan I would not know.

338 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:16:49am

re: #336 3 wood Why not just trim the rancid fat and since so many Print and television News media are going belly up kill those programs.

339 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:17:04am

re: #333 Erik The Red

That or my bad spelling Bule.FBV

Man I am battling today.

340 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:17:16am

re: #333 Erik The Red

That or my bad spelling Bule.

have you ever read any books by Wilbur Smith?...just curious...are you a SA citizen?

341 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:17:18am

re: #329 Erik The Red

No ice here except in my scotch. Mid 80's over cast and low humidity. Forecast tomorrow is high 80's sun and high humidity. Going to the beach. Hahahaha/

Rats! Well the sun is up.. I looked out the window on my car is frosted up.. I know it's really cold..I need to go run a mile..back later...
I'll be thinking 80 degrees shortly Red..Thanks for that! :)

342 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:18:45am

re: #329 Erik The Red

Forecast tomorrow is high 80's sun and high humidity.

I'll take my frost thank you high heat is fine but I really hate feeling like i need to grow gills.

343 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:19:23am

re: #340 albusteve

have you ever read any books by Wilbur Smith?...just curious...are you a SA citizen?

Have read almost all of his stuff. Great writer. I am an American Citizen. I have been here since I was 16. Love the country, hate the politics. I am returning next year.

344 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:19:35am

re: #336 3 wood

What kinda of job do you get with a degree in African-American studies? Or, Gender and Women's studies? I can think of only two: "Community Organizer" or as a teacher of African-American Studies or Gender and Women's Studies...At least with some degrees like Philosophy or History, you can get a job at Starbucks and provide a valuable service to mankind!

BTW - My BA degree is History and Political Science, which explains why I own a small freight company...not many historian and Political Scientist jobs in the want ads after I graduated!

345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:21:07am

Worky time! Y'all have fun!

346 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:21:23am

re: #343 Erik The Red

Have read almost all of his stuff. Great writer. I am an American Citizen. I have been here since I was 16. Love the country, hate the politics. I am returning next year.

his books always inspire me to want to visit down there...I'm a huge fan...colonializm, Rhodes, Kimberly all that stuff...SA sound gorgeous

347 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:23:45am

SAG is having some internal squabbling.

Screen Actors Guild faces dissension from NY board

LOS ANGELES--- A faction of the Screen Actors Guild on Friday called for the union to suspend an upcoming vote to authorize a strike amid stalled negotiations with Hollywood producers.

The announcement represents a major split between the union's Hollywood leadership and a more moderate group based in New York. The group hopes its opposition will force the union to rethink the timing of its vote scheduled for January.

"Our members and our industry are struggling through the worst economic crisis in memory," the New York board said in a statement. "While issuing a strike authorization may have been a sensible strategy in October, we believe it is irresponsible to do so now."

The New York division's 14 board members also called for the 71-member national board to hold an emergency meeting to appoint new negotiators to work with the American Motion Picture and Television Producers, which represents the major studios.

"With a fresh team, the AMPTP will return to the table, and we can get a fair deal," the New York board wrote. "A deal that will not cost careers, homes, lives. We want our members to understand that while strikes are sometimes unavoidable, we will do everything in our power to avoid this one."

Dang, I was hoping these morons would go on strike and really wreck their industry but good.

Well there's still hope.

348 BlueCanuck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:23:57am

re: #336 3 wood

Yep, and we wonder why the Americas are falling behind in everything. More attention is paid to fluff studies than anything that can help us get ahead.

/had a friend that took a women studies course. Hated the class due to the male hating lesbian teacher. Most of the class was the same.

349 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:25:23am

re: #348 BlueCanuck

Yep, and we wonder why the Americas are falling behind in everything. More attention is paid to fluff studies than anything that can help us get ahead.

/had a friend that took a women studies course. Hated the class due to the male hating lesbian teacher. Most of the class was the same.

Tell him he'll have more luck in "Human Sexuality 202"...no man hating lesbians in there

350 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:27:36am

re: #344 Desert Dog

BTW - My BA degree is History and Political Science, which explains why I own a small freight company...not many historian and Political Scientist jobs in the want ads after I graduated!

When I got my BA in Management during the 1980 recession, I worked security for a major bank in the loop, as a sort of private cop for a while until I got my first real "professional" gig.

Which is why I then got a graduate degree in Finance.

A whole lot of new grad's are going to find out that the BA in English Lit. is not going to cut much ice in this economy for a while.

351 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:27:51am

re: #346 albusteve

his books always inspire me to want to visit down there...I'm a huge fan...colonializm, Rhodes, Kimberly all that stuff...SA sound gorgeous

That was then. Now is now. Absolutely beautiful country. Pity about all the politics and history of apartheid

352 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:28:53am

re: #347 3 wood

Again? Didn't they just do that?

353 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:29:01am

re: #349 Desert Dog
That's the first program dropped in many schools :P. And usually consists of 52 2nd semester male freshman and 4-8 women hoping to pad their GPA's.

354 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:29:18am

Apologies if anyone else posted this before, but has everyone seen the big three's new ad?

355 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:29:34am

re: #338 Rancher

re: #336 3 wood Why not just trim the rancid fat and since so many Print and television News media are going belly up kill those programs.

Might as well close down the J schools cause they are hiring straight from the DNC anyway.

356 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:30:13am

re: #352 Erik The Red

Again? Didn't they just do that?

The writers did.

357 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:30:33am

re: #354 gclaghorn

Apologies if anyone else posted this before, but has everyone seen the big three's new ad?

358 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:30:52am

re: #353 Rancher

I took that class my Sophomore year at CU-Boulder back when dinosaurs roamed the earth in 1983...it was about 50/50 male/female...that was a good class.

359 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:31:04am

re: #356 3 wood
Yeah writers went on strike this Summer(maybe late spring) now its the actors.

360 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:31:13am

re: #354 gclaghorn

Apologies if anyone else posted this before, but has everyone seen the big three's new ad?

Love it.

And the UAW is laughing all the way to the bank.

361 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:32:09am

re: #344 Desert Dog

What kinda of job do you get with a degree in African-American studies? Or, Gender and Women's studies? I can think of only two: "Community Organizer" or as a teacher of African-American Studies or Gender and Women's Studies...At least with some degrees like Philosophy or History, you can get a job at Starbucks and provide a valuable service to mankind!

BTW - My BA degree is History and Political Science, which explains why I own a small freight company...not many historian and Political Scientist jobs in the want ads after I graduated!

Jobs: professional Rabble rousers--kinda like jessie jackson sr.

362 BlueCanuck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:32:21am

re: #349 Desert Dog

Actually, it was a her. :)
One story they read she summed up rather nicely. The female character would have been a lot better if she had gotten laid.

363 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:32:22am

re: #358 Desert Dog
Yeah now its loaded with young men and a couple women when i passed the classroom(My chem class was right next door) it was basically a sausage fest in which about 1/2 of the students dropped.

364 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:33:32am

re: #356 3 wood

The writers did.

So one doesn't learn from the other? Asshat unions.

365 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:33:52am

5:23 Iran: We have proof U.S., Britain support terror group with arms, intelligence (Reuters)

Yeah, maybe, OK but their our terrorists after all!

366 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:34:22am

re: #364 Erik The Red

So one doesn't learn from the other? Asshat unions.

They're hollywood actors. They don't learn. Period.

367 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:34:26am

re: #363 Rancher
Now the 324 or what ever level Human sexuality class was on the kama sutra and didn't require 201 as a prerequisite. If I could have talked the VA into oking that choice I woulda been really happy.

368 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:35:09am

re: #365 nevergiveup
///Blackwater supplies itself.

369 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:35:36am

Gates warns enemies of U.S.: Do not test Obama

By Reuters

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Yup that should take care of things. OK now move on to the economy.

370 Crux Australis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:35:39am

Greetings from a summery Sydney, Australia.

Really liking the long days now. Doesn't get dark until after 9pm now. And the moon has been spectacular the last 2 nights.

371 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:36:30am

re: #361 nevergiveup

Jobs: professional Rabble rousers--kinda like jessie jackson sr.

I believe Jesse's degree is in Shakedowns and Racial Extortion with a minor in Race Baiting Theology...although I might be wrong...

372 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:36:37am

re: #369 nevergiveup

Gates warns enemies of U.S.: Do not test Obama

By Reuters

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Yup that should take care of things. OK now move on to the economy.

You tell 'em, Gates!

/

373 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:37:20am

re: #370 Crux Australis

Greetings from a summery Sydney, Australia.

Really liking the long days now. Doesn't get dark until after 9pm now. And the moon has been spectacular the last 2 nights.

Waiting for Wednesday next week Crux. Good luck. (Hope S.A kicks ass).

374 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:37:25am

re: #370 Crux Australis

Greetings from a summery Sydney, Australia.

Really liking the long days now. Doesn't get dark until after 9pm now. And the moon has been spectacular the last 2 nights.

And, you can get Swan and Castlemaine XXX on tap

375 BlueCanuck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:38:05am

re: #370 Crux Australis

Grrr.

Sunrise 0743, sunset 1641. Low temp last night -13°C.

/or should that be Brrr

376 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:39:07am

re: #372 gclaghorn

You tell 'em, Gates!

/

If I was a blood thirsty leader of a terrorist sponsoring country, that warning would have me shaking in my boots! Whew!

377 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:40:05am

re: #375 BlueCanuck

Grrr.

Sunrise 0743, sunset 1641. Low temp last night -13°C.

/or should that be Brrr

Brrr, indeed...where are you? Ice Station Zebra?

378 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:40:45am

US demands Syria cooperate on nuke plan
American ambassador to UN nuclear watchdog says Damascus must decide whether it plans to follow in Iran's footsteps or cooperate on its alleged atomic program. A failure to do so, he warns, would lead to punishment measures

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Look I ain't no Diplomat but I was a camp counselor for many years and the one thing I learned was: If you just threaten consequences for poor behavior and never carry thru, you are very soon a joke and toast, and no one listens to ya.

379 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:40:58am

and Greenland Declares Independance from Denmark

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

I know...it's the gaurdian...but I jsut stumbled across it and thot it deserves note

380 Crux Australis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:41:00am

Should I be concerned about the Australian Auto Industry? GM and Ford have Auto plants in Australia.

381 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:41:28am

re: #376 Desert Dog

If I was a blood thirsty leader of a terrorist sponsoring country, that warning would have me shaking in my boots! Whew!

I'd be positively fraught with disquietude!

But seriously, Gates is in the wrong job. If he can take care of terrorists that easily, he needs to get to work on the economy!

382 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:41:39am

re: #375 BlueCanuck

Grrr.

Sunrise 0743, sunset 1641. Low temp last night -13°C.

/or should that be Brrr

What goes around comes around. We freeze in the south when you tan in the north.

383 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:42:52am

Rahm-a-drama: “Beet red” and “pissed” with the MSM

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Something tells me that Rahm ain't never seeing the inside of the White House except with a visitor's pass?

384 Crux Australis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:43:29am

re: #374 Desert Dog

And, you can get Swan and Castlemaine XXX on tap

Not a big beer drinker surprisingly for an Aussie. Prefer wines and spirits.

385 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:44:11am

re: #380 Crux Australis

Should I be concerned about the Australian Auto Industry? GM and Ford have Auto plants in Australia.

Be afraid very afraid. What are car sales doing in Aus. right now? In S.A we are down 35%. If you are in anything to do with cars be scared.

386 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:44:13am

re: #384 Crux Australis

Not a big beer drinker surprisingly for an Aussie. Prefer wines and spirits.

Well, you are in luck there too...you Aussies have some very good wine as well

387 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:44:28am

re: #372 gclaghorn
Yeah let's warn them stay away. With such strong words too, don't test us instead go play in Iraq and influence them so they don't get to close to Iran. A good idea but hardly conducive to peace in the middle east since its likely to start a sunni/shi'ite conflict. Well given the way Sunni/Shi'ite confrontations often end.

388 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:45:08am

re: #383 nevergiveup

Rahm-a-drama: “Beet red” and “pissed” with the MSM

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Something tells me that Rahm ain't never seeing the inside of the White House except with a visitor's pass?

I bet he thinks he's really tough, putting up with all this stuff. Like no other politician gets hate mail. Puh-lease.

389 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:45:17am

I took a quick peek at the stock market futures, and very early into the weekend they are liking this auto bail out end run.

DOW up 94
S&P500 up 10.90
NASDAQ up 25

I think this is due to 2 reasons mainly. First, suppliers to the auto industry were starting to call their customers and tell them they would do business on a cash-on-the-barrel-head basis only. No way they were going to ship on account only to have that customer run to bankruptcy court. That would have slowed business even more.

Second, after getting so hammered for so long, this market wants to go up. Not back up to 14,000 on the DOW anytime soon, but maybe 9.500 to 10,000. All it really wants is for the bad news to stop coming in waves every day. So, anything that looks like it might eliminate some more bad news is viewed as a positive.

You have a bit of shell shock going on in the market now.

But remember what I've been saying. When this turns around, and it will, watch out for high inflation.

390 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:45:25am

re: #386 Desert Dog

Well, you are in luck there too...you Aussies have some very good wine as well

Not as good as South Africa. Sorry Crux/

391 BlueCanuck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:45:40am

re: #377 Desert Dog

Toronto Ontario. Canada. Stupid part is that they are calling for a high of 7° by Monday. One reason I hate this time of year. The weather and temps fluctuate too bloody much.

392 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:46:21am

re: #389 3 wood

I took a quick peek at the stock market futures, and very early into the weekend they are liking this auto bail out end run.

DOW up 94
S&P500 up 10.90
NASDAQ up 25

I think this is due to 2 reasons mainly. First, suppliers to the auto industry were starting to call their customers and tell them they would do business on a cash-on-the-barrel-head basis only. No way they were going to ship on account only to have that customer run to bankruptcy court. That would have slowed business even more.

Second, after getting so hammered for so long, this market wants to go up. Not back up to 14,000 on the DOW anytime soon, but maybe 9.500 to 10,000. All it really wants is for the bad news to stop coming in waves every day. So, anything that looks like it might eliminate some more bad news is viewed as a positive.

You have a bit of shell shock going on in the market now.

But remember what I've been saying. When this turns around, and it will, watch out for high inflation.

393 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:46:52am

re: #391 BlueCanuck

Toronto Ontario. Canada. Stupid part is that they are calling for a high of 7° by Monday. One reason I hate this time of year. The weather and temps fluctuate too bloody much.

Well, that explains all the Canadian license plates down here in Phoenix...Snowbird season is upon us down here

394 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:47:01am

re: #370 Crux Australis

Hi.

It's frick'n 30 degrees and overcast in Illinois, the place Obama does not even remember exists now.

How soon till Obama starts saying that he's from Hawaii?

395 boogberg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:47:26am
396 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:48:05am

re: #394 3 wood Didn't he say he was going home to visit his grandmother before she died. Which means he may already have thrown Illinois under the bus.

397 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:48:10am

re: #392 Erik The Red

re: #389 3 wood

I took a quick peek at the stock market futures, and very early into the weekend they are liking this auto bail out end run.

DOW up 94
S&P500 up 10.90
NASDAQ up 25

I think this is due to 2 reasons mainly. First, suppliers to the auto industry were starting to call their customers and tell them they would do business on a cash-on-the-barrel-head basis only. No way they were going to ship on account only to have that customer run to bankruptcy court. That would have slowed business even more.

Second, after getting so hammered for so long, this market wants to go up. Not back up to 14,000 on the DOW anytime soon, but maybe 9.500 to 10,000. All it really wants is for the bad news to stop coming in waves every day. So, anything that looks like it might eliminate some more bad news is viewed as a positive.

You have a bit of shell shock going on in the market now.

But remember what I've been saying. When this turns around, and it will, watch out for high inflation.

Wood what have you heard about credit card defaults? I have heard that this can be even bigger than what we have seen so far.

398 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:49:58am

re: #380 Crux Australis

Should I be concerned about the Australian Auto Industry? GM and Ford have Auto plants in Australia.

Depends on their debt structure and their union contracts, if any.

399 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:50:12am

re: #380 Crux Australis

I heard something on FNC earlier, that the Big 3 had plans to close a # of non-US plants-tho I only remember Mexico from the list. So it is a possibility you need to prepare for.

400 Crux Australis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:50:52am

re: #375 BlueCanuck

Grrr.

Sunrise 0743, sunset 1641. Low temp last night -13°C.

/or should that be Brrr

Sunrise 5:38, Sunset 20:01 Max 30C (83F) but yesterday was 16C (60F) and tommorow 25C (77F) temperatures all over the place lately.

401 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:51:14am

re: #399 Pietr Ford will likely be ok out there GM probably not.

402 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:51:21am

re: #397 Erik The Red

Wood what have you heard about credit card defaults? I have heard that this can be even bigger than what we have seen so far.

That is the next wave of trouble. If you notice American Express got itself declared a bank a month ago, so it could access the Federal Reserve discount window.

But the average credit card amount if fairly small.

403 notutopia  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:51:32am

Life is tough, but it’s tougher when you’re stupid.

— John Wayne


Where ignorance is bliss, 'Tis folly to be wise.
Thomas Gray


Good morning!
Cold and glorious, blue, clear skies here in NC. I need to catch up on barn and field chores for the next day... looking for my muck boots...
hope the Aussie dogs haven't hid them on me ...again.
Ya'll have a glorious day!
: )

404 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:52:40am

re: #402 3 wood

Should we worry? Or will it just be a speed bump?

405 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:53:21am

re: #402 3 wood

That is the next wave of trouble. If you notice American Express got itself declared a bank a month ago, so it could access the Federal Reserve discount window.

But the average credit card amount if fairly small.

Did you have anything invested with Mr. Madoff's firm?

406 Crux Australis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:54:43am

re: #385 Erik The Red

Be afraid very afraid. What are car sales doing in Aus. right now? In S.A we are down 35%. If you are in anything to do with cars be scared.

All I know is that the second-hand car sellers are selling cars dirt-cheap and one car yard in Sydney went into liquidation.

407 boogberg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:56:06am

Available credit/debt = your ass. :D

408 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:56:16am

re: #405 Desert Dog Hopefully No lizards had there money with Mr. Madeoff man someone at Ellis Island was a prophet when his family was given that name.

409 Throbert McGee  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:57:14am

re: #162 Spare O'Lake

The only "serious question" that is raised is why anyone with half a brain would assume that Iran and Syria give a flying f**k what the IAEA says?

This caught my eye as I was scrolling rapidly down the page, but I thought it said "IKEA."

410 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:59:31am

Jimmy Rogers: "Without giving specific names, most of the significant American banks, the larger banks, are bankrupt, totally bankrupt," said Rogers, who is now a private investor.

While I'm somewhat suspicious of him due to his connections with Soros, he's been spot on regarding Freddie, Fannie, the U.S. dollar, commodities, etc...

411 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:59:33am

re: #409 Throbert McGee

This caught my eye as I was scrolling rapidly down the page, but I thought it said "IKEA."

IKEA - IAEA, both do about the same for nuclear proliferation - NADA.

Actually, IKEA would probably do a better job, but you'd have to assemble the "anti-nuclear weapon kit" at home

412 notutopia  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:59:42am

re: #395 boogberg

Boog, Did you eat cold pizza again just before you went to bed last night?
That looks like a continuing bad dream...re: #395 boogberg

This is kinda neat

413 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:59:53am

re: #405 Desert Dog

Did you have anything invested with Mr. Madoff's firm?

One of my patient's was bitching that he and his brother might have lost millions with him. And that bastard still has an outstanding balance with me? And he had the balls to say-no problem- his brother still has millions? So fork it over asshole!
You really can't make this shit up!

414 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:01:44am

re: #413 nevergiveup

He was a huge contributor to the Democratic party. I don't understand why the media reports I've seen/read have failed to mention the connection.

415 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:02:11am

re: #411 Desert Dog

IKEA - IAEA, both do about the same for nuclear proliferation - NADA.

Actually, IKEA would probably do a better job, but you'd have to assemble the "anti-nuclear weapon kit" at home

Except it's not called an "anti-nuclear weapon kit." It's called a sven or a fjork.

416 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:02:16am

re: #379 Jewels (AKA Julian)

It seems to be a good, well written article, and isn't a surprise. Heard something on talk radio about it a few days ago-and the host said Denmark was cool with it. The stumbling block is to make Greenland self supporting, so they don't need Danish subsistence for their budget.

417 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:03:06am

Russia retakes Georgian village near South Ossetia

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

"You put your right foot in, you take your right foot out. You yada yada yada and shake it all about"?

418 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:03:40am

re: #414 gregg

He was a huge contributor to the Democratic party. I don't understand why the media reports I've seen/read have failed to mention the connection.

Gee, I wonder why too...do you think if he was a big Republican financier we would hear about it? That would be the required adjective everytime his name was mentioned: "Republican Financier and Crook Madoff is in court today"

419 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:03:41am

re: #414 gregg

He was a huge contributor to the Democratic party. I don't understand why the media reports I've seen/read have failed to mention the connection.

You must have forgot your sarcasm tag?

420 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:04:07am

re: #415 gclaghorn

Ja!

421 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:04:37am

re: #415 gclaghorn

So, one would "FJORK" the iranian nuclear program?
/white smoke.

422 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:05:22am

re: #421 Pietr Or we could just tell Iran and Syria Fjork you or fjork off.

423 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:05:52am

re: #422 Rancher

Or we could just tell Iran and Syria Fjork you or fjork off.

If they get the bomb, we are Fjorked!

424 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:05:59am

Is this what our kids are learning today?Wake up I was looking for something to wake up the room and I found this shit. G_d help the future generation if this is what they listen to. Not safe for easily pissed off people.

425 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:06:07am

re: #417 nevergiveup

Russia retakes Georgian village near South Ossetia

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

"You put your right foot in, you take your right foot out. You yada yada yada and shake it all about"?

I know! Maybe if we send the Russian leaders fruit baskets and a strongly-worded letter!

/

426 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:06:25am

Police: Mumbai gunman asks Pakistan for legal help

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

That ranks up there with Jonathon Pollard. Who when caught spying for Israel and with the FBI on his tail ran to the Israeli Embassy in DC.

427 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:07:07am

Morning guys!

How is everyone? I've got a frosty 26... what's Real dealing with?

How is the fruit cart?

428 wahabicorridor  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:07:10am

re: #410 gregg

Jimmy Rogers: "Without giving specific names, most of the significant American banks, the larger banks, are bankrupt, totally bankrupt," said Rogers, who is now a private investor.

While I'm somewhat suspicious of him due to his connections with Soros, he's been spot on regarding Freddie, Fannie, the U.S. dollar, commodities, etc...

Soros? I thought he was a Buffet guy?

Morning everyone! Hey, 3 wood, didn't GMAC also declare itself to be a bank so it could get the discount funds? Or am I misremembering?

429 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:07:57am

re: #427 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning guys!

How is everyone? I've got a frosty 26... what's Real dealing with?

How is the fruit cart?

80 and half sunny here. Suck to be you/

430 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:08:41am

Well good morning all y'all - from a COLD damn (25 degrees going up to 50 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone today?

431 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:09:36am

re: #424 Erik The Red

Is this what our kids are learning today?Wake up I was looking for something to wake up the room and I found this shit. G_d help the future generation if this is what they listen to. Not safe for easily pissed off people.

That's the song used in the closing credits in the first Matrix movie...

432 Crux Australis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:09:57am

re: #429 Erik The Red

Where do you live Erik The Red?

433 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:10:06am

re: #429 Erik The Red

80 and half sunny here. Suck to be you/

*burn*

434 wahabicorridor  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:10:23am

re: #430 realwest

Well good morning all y'all - from a COLD damn (25 degrees going up to 50 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone today?

Morning real! It's freezing here in Virginia - about 20 F - but at least we have power. The Northeast got slammed yesterday.

435 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:10:24am

re: #396 Rancher

3 wood Didn't he say he was going home to visit his grandmother before she died. Which means he may already have thrown Illinois under the bus.

This guy would sell out his own Grandmother at the drop of a hat, and he'd drop the hat.

As the previous thread covered, you are hearing nothing from them on their "internal investigation" into the Blago investigation.

The means the Messiah is trying to figure out what they got on tape, how to spin this, and who to throw under the bus.

Don't be surprised if he plays the race card.

436 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:10:37am

re: #432 Crux Australis

Where do you live Erik The Red?

Durban S.Africa

437 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:10:44am

re: #430 realwest

Mornin' back at you, RW, from San Antonio-which is currently up to 39F-but we should get into the 60's later.

438 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:11:04am

re: #430 realwest

Well good morning all y'all - from a COLD damn (25 degrees going up to 50 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone today?

Beat you by 1 whole degree.

/don't think we'll get anywhere near 50, so I don't want to talk about that.

439 Buster Bunny  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:11:43am

re: #423 Desert Dog

If they get the bomb, we are Fjorked!

If they confuse IAEA with IKEA we could either be FJORKED or we could go with the new GLASSEN range. Maybe a SANDIZ for the kitchen. Sure it'll be a nuclear disaster, but it will be tastefully designed and match everything else in your kitchen.

440 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:11:57am

re: #431 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That's the song used in the closing credits in the first Matrix movie...

Damn I loved that movie. Never realized/listened to the music.

441 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:12:12am

If I ever need the world's weather report, I just have to come on LGF!

Phoenix Current Temp: 48.6 °F / 9.2 °C Scattered Clouds

Today's forcast: High 70° F (21° C) %P% Low 50° F (10° C)

That's with the cold front coming in...winters here are brutal!

442 Crux Australis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:12:41am

re: #436 Erik The Red

Durban S.Africa

So further north than Sydney. Sydney is the exact same latitude as Cape Town.

443 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:12:50am

Five Years Ago Today - [Cuffy Meigs]
—Open Blog

Hello Saddam!

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

444 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:13:00am

re: #439 Buster Bunny

If they confuse IAEA with IKEA we could either be FJORKED or we could go with the new GLASSEN range. Maybe a SANDIZ for the kitchen. Sure it'll be a nuclear disaster, but it will be tastefully designed and match everything else in your kitchen.

Oh, that sounds divine!

445 boogberg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:13:06am

re: #412 notutopia

Hahaah! Just how much food is off limits at bedtime? I heard Breyer's ice cream will give you nightmares. :D

446 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:13:32am

re: #433 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

*burn*

My American skin does in this African sun. Thank goodness for sp50000.

447 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:13:41am

re: #440 Erik The Red

Damn I loved that movie. Never realized/listened to the music.

Don't... just enjoy the movie.

The song is just some background noise (no words for the most part) when Neo is on the phone warning the Agents... the only vocal happens when he zooms up into the air.

448 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:13:58am

re: #443 nevergiveup

Five Years Ago Today - [Cuffy Meigs]
—Open Blog

Hello Saddam!

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

Too Bad Saddam ain't around to celebrate with us, eh?

449 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:14:04am

re: #445 boogberg

Hahaah! Just how much food is off limits at bedtime? I heard Breyer's ice cream will give you nightmares. :D

You know, that might explain last night's dreams...

Morning, everyone. Is it just me, or do the news channels seem awfully quiet today?

450 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:14:59am

re: #449 vxbush

You know, that might explain last night's dreams...

Morning, everyone. Is it just me, or do the news channels seem awfully quiet today?

News channels are very quiet, just the way I like it.

451 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:15:00am

re: #435 3 wood

This guy would sell out his own Grandmother at the drop of a hat, and he'd drop the hat.

As the previous thread covered, you are hearing nothing from them on their "internal investigation" into the Blago investigation.

The means the Messiah is trying to figure out what they got on tape, how to spin this, and who to throw under the bus.

Don't be surprised if he plays the race card.

When hasn't he played the race card?

452 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:15:02am

re: #434 wahabicorridor
Good morning wahabi! Yeah, it's really cold and I read where Eastern NY and New England have OVER 1.25 million people without power and will be without power for a couple of days. Additionally Maine and I think New Hampshire or Vermont have both declared States of Emergency and neither one has State government offices open (like DMV etc.).
How are you doing (beisdes cold) today?

453 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:15:27am

re: #442 Crux Australis

So further north than Sydney. Sydney is the exact same latitude as Cape Town.

Learn something new every day here.

454 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:15:54am

re: #446 Erik The Red

My American skin does in this African sun. Thank goodness for sp50000.

One of my best friends lives in J-berg. Great guy (actual SA citizen). He comes to visit once a year in September and has been bugging me for ages to live there.

Other than having to live in an armed camp, he says he really likes it there.

455 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:16:28am

re: #449 vxbush

1). It's a Saturday morning, and 2). the election is over. News always seems to be slow, even stale, after all the election hype, IMHO.

456 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:16:50am

re: #439 Buster Bunny

If they confuse IAEA with IKEA we could either be FJORKED or we could go with the new GLASSEN range. Maybe a SANDIZ for the kitchen. Sure it'll be a nuclear disaster, but it will be tastefully designed and match everything else in your kitchen.

I am sitting on a Franklin as I type this message. I wonder how that name got in IKEA?

457 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:17:14am

re: #449 vxbush

You know, that might explain last night's dreams...

Morning, everyone. Is it just me, or do the news channels seem awfully quiet today?

All the news is Blago...and they can't report that because it could tarnish the Messiah.

So, we get Caylee Anthony or whatever the poor kid's name was and the F&F Christmas party highlights.

458 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:18:20am

re: #428 wahabicorridor

Soros? I thought he was a Buffet guy?

Morning everyone! Hey, 3 wood, didn't GMAC also declare itself to be a bank so it could get the discount funds? Or am I misremembering?

Rogers ran a hedge fund with Soros.

I think GMAC's request was rejected.

459 Buster Bunny  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:19:20am

re: #456 Desert Dog

I am sitting on a Franklin as I type this message. I wonder how that name got in IKEA?

Half Swedish?

460 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:19:23am

re: #455 Pietr

1). It's a Saturday morning, and 2). the election is over. News always seems to be slow, even stale, after all the election hype, IMHO.

Do you think if the Gov. of Illinois was a Republican and the President Elect was a Republican from Illinois it would be a slow news day? Or, would CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, NYT and the rest of the MSM be having a 24 HOUR feeding frenzy right now?

461 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:19:32am

re: #456 Desert Dog

I am sitting on a Franklin as I type this message. I wonder how that name got in IKEA?

that thing looks like torture...I'm in a big old office chair with my feet up on a stool ...recovering from surgery so I gotta be comphy...doctors orders!...ha...

462 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:19:47am

re: #437 Pietr
Good morning to you - well warming up into something with a "6" in front of it is a whole lot better than where I am! I had to jump outta bed and turn on the heat at about 755 AM - yeah we have a thermostat, but it is either "on" or "off" no way to keep a reasonable temperatue so we turn it off at night whenever I go to sleep (Mom is in bed and asleep before me) - and it was 22 degrees - it's now boomed all the way up to 25 degrees, we've got the heat on the highest possible level and it's still damn cold here -indoors - these apartments weren't insultated either very well or at all! LOL!

463 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:20:04am

re: #450 gclaghorn

News channels are very quiet, just the way I like it.

But it makes me nervous, like they aren't reporting what they should be.

Okay, back in a minute; gotta help get the son out of bed...

464 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:20:12am

re: #460 Desert Dog

Do you think if the Gov. of Illinois was a Republican and the President Elect was a Republican from Illinois it would be a slow news day? Or, would CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, NYT and the rest of the MSM be having a 24 HOUR feeding frenzy right now?

Bingo... we have a winnah!

465 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:20:20am

re: #454 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

One of my best friends lives in J-berg. Great guy (actual SA citizen). He comes to visit once a year in September and has been bugging me for ages to live there.

Other than having to live in an armed camp, he says he really likes it there.

I could write 3000 words on why this country is so great. It can take 2 words to say why it has no future. Africa and violence.

466 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:20:28am

re: #461 albusteve

It is...I think they have these down in Gitmo too

467 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:20:40am

re: #460 Desert Dog

Point taken. SIGH

468 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:20:52am

re: #378 nevergiveup

US demands Syria cooperate on nuke plan
American ambassador to UN nuclear watchdog says Damascus must decide whether it plans to follow in Iran's footsteps or cooperate on its alleged atomic program. A failure to do so, he warns, would lead to punishment measures

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Look I ain't no Diplomat but I was a camp counselor for many years and the one thing I learned was: If you just threaten consequences for poor behavior and never carry thru, you are very soon a joke and toast, and no one listens to ya.

See quote at #151 re: "serious questions will be asked".
This is worse than an empty threat of action - it is a threat to do nothing.
The impotence is nauseating.

469 BBev  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:21:17am

re: #452 realwest

Good morning wahabi! Yeah, it's really cold and I read where Eastern NY and New England have OVER 1.25 million people without power and will be without power for a couple of days. Additionally Maine and I think New Hampshire or Vermont have both declared States of Emergency and neither one has State government offices open (like DMV etc.).
How are you doing (beisdes cold) today?

Good Morning Real here is what it was like yesterday here in NH Your text to link...
Repost from upthread

470 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:21:21am

re: #404 Erik The Red

Should we worry? Or will it just be a speed bump?

Well, it's not going to be fun, but the Fed's, Congress, Bush, and now apparently Obama have shown that that they have no concern for the deficit.

So we will inflate our way out of this eventually. This government will spend any amount of money to get out of this mess.

Remember, 93% of the working population is still working. Commerce is still happening, so that will eventually move us back into positive territory.

Be thinking of ways now to protect yourself from the high inflation that will be coming. For those who put themselves into treasuries thinking they were home free, think again. When this turns people will dump those treasuries faster than a a jack rabbit on a date, and the market value will plummet.

471 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:21:32am

re: #438 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Good morning LT - so we're both freezing our asses off! LOL!
Hope you at least get over the freezing mark! And hope you're doing well today, other than being cold!

472 wahabicorridor  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:22:19am

re: #452 realwest


We're very well thanks! Having a small soiree later today - hubby has left to pick up the liquid stuff. I just have to go get paper plates and stuff. I decided not to sweat this one (usually I spend 3 days cooking, etc.) I just ran over to Red, Hot and Blue and told them to cater the thing. Nice casual party with some friends we only get to see a couple times a year.

473 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:22:31am

re: #465 Erik The Red

I could write 3000 words on why this country is so great. It can take 2 words to say why it has no future. Africa and violence.

So, do you guys go around reminding your friends TIA whenever some arms are cut off or whatever, like in the Diamond propaganda movie?

I always wanted to ask my friend, but it is his homeland and didn't want to be insulting.

474 notutopia  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:22:38am

re: #445 boogberg

Seriously, it takes approx. 2 hrs. for your food to pass from your lips into your small intestine. If you eat just before you go to bed, your body isn't/doesn't rest...it's busy metabolizing and does not go into a basal state. The extra blood flow and circulation required to your digestive system, especially in a supine, prone position of sleeping which is very busy digesting that food you ate just minutes/hours before you retired, will affect you getting to the REM state of sleep...

475 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:23:26am

re: #466 Desert Dog

It is...I think they have these down in Gitmo too

not to pry but why do you use it?...

476 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:23:44am

re: #471 realwest

Sure hope so... looking more doubtful by the day around here. I love summers, baseball and all that.

Winters just make my hands freeze off.

477 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:24:30am

re: #474 notutopia

Seriously, it takes approx. 2 hrs. for your food to pass from your lips into your small intestine. If you eat just before you go to bed, your body isn't/doesn't rest...it's busy metabolizing and does not go into a basal state. The extra blood flow and circulation required to your digestive system, especially in a supine, prone position of sleeping which is very busy digesting that food you ate just minutes/hours before you retired, will affect you getting to the REM state of sleep...

Isn't that what the multiple history and military channels are for?

478 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:25:56am

re: #469 BBev
Morning BBEV! Shit! I was freezing just looking at that slide show!
How are you doing - do y'all have power, heat?!

479 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:25:59am

re: #475 albusteve

Because Mrs. Desert Dog likes it...end of story...I used to have these awful 1970's cast iron bar stools for our kitchen counter...she tossed them out and brought these home one day. Actually, it is good they are so hard...I cannot sit here all day and post inane things on LGF...my butt "falls asleep" after a while and I have to get up and do something productive! It is "negative reinforcement" I guess...

480 boogberg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:26:34am

re: #470 3 wood

I've put in an offer of $3.00/share for 500 shares of GM, 3 wood.

Whatcha think?

481 wahabicorridor  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:26:52am

re: #458 gregg

Rogers ran a hedge fund with Soros.

I think GMAC's request was rejected.

I stand corrected.

Since we're all talking about the weather, did you see the link someone posted in the spinoffs? Rome got as much rain in one night as they normall get the entire month of December and now they're looking at the Tiber topping it's banks and flooding the place.

Ach. Poor Italy.

482 notutopia  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:26:59am

re: #477 nevergiveup

Lol! For the REM ? or for the auto pilot must Stay awake for 2 hours after the cold pizza and beer? ...

483 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:27:18am

re: #405 Desert Dog

Did you have anything invested with Mr. Madoff's firm?

Nope, I saw that for the Ponzi scheme that it was long time ago.

I'm very careful about naming particular companies on line here, cause I don't want to appear to be touting or slamming individual companies. If we had a functioning SEC, they would be going after people for that.

But let me just say that there are several large, apparently healthy companies out there tight now whose stock I will not hold due to irregularities in their book keeping, regardless of the economy.

All you have to do is read the SEC filings and the foot notes in their annual reports to know what I'm talking about.

Madoff's was like a neon sign going off that something was not on the up and up.

484 BBev  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:27:58am

re: #478 realwest

Morning BBEV! Shit! I was freezing just looking at that slide show!
How are you doing - do y'all have power, heat?!

I have power but so much of the city does not, I brought home a generator yesterday just in case, the company I work for had it's Christmas party yesterday and just about everyone there did not have power at the homes.

485 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:28:03am

re: #470 3 wood
Hey my friend! You sure know how to turn a phrase:
"people will dump those treasuries faster than a a jack rabbit on a date," LOL!
How are you today and WTH is with Da Bears? They are STILL in the playoff hunt!

486 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:28:13am

re: #483 3 wood

$50 Billion...that is amazing though...he fooled enough people apparantly

487 Joan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:28:17am

re: #29 Athos

Our client is so irretrievably narcissistic and a sociopath...any consideration of the death penalty has to be eliminated before we change our plea...

Blood. I want her bloood. You go, Florida. Git'er.

488 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:28:59am

re: #473 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Lately that has been our excuse for just about everything. Up until 3 years ago I was very optimistic about this country. Not anymore now.

489 Joan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:29:26am

re: #30 Fenway_Nation

Random thought of the evening: French Lick is probably the 'A Boy Named Sue' of Indiana towns...

Gnaw Bone is second.

490 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:29:27am

re: #479 Desert Dog

Because Mrs. Desert Dog likes it...end of story...I used to have these awful 1970's cast iron bar stools for our kitchen counter...she tossed them out and brought these home one day. Actually, it is good they are so hard...I cannot sit here all day and post inane things on LGF...my butt "falls asleep" after a while and I have to get up and do something productive! It is "negative reinforcement" I guess...

yes Mrs DD is no fool...my ex is a posture nut but I never learned...I just melt into my big ass chair here and sort of petrify...

491 notutopia  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:29:32am

Well off to the awaiting muck...
BBIAW.

492 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:29:46am

re: #472 wahabicorridor
Ah, that sounds really, really nice! And smart of you to get it catered, too - that way you get to ENJOY the party instead of working right on through it!
I suppose my invitation got lost in the Christmas mail, eh?!
;')

493 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:30:34am

re: #410 gregg

Jimmy Rogers: "Without giving specific names, most of the significant American banks, the larger banks, are bankrupt, totally bankrupt," said Rogers, who is now a private investor.

While I'm somewhat suspicious of him due to his connections with Soros, he's been spot on regarding Freddie, Fannie, the U.S. dollar, commodities, etc...

Remember though, many of these banks are sitting on billions in cash. Also, the Fed's will spend any amount of money to keep the system from locking up.

That is why the bigger concern is inflation. They can add cash to the bank's balances with a key stroke.

494 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:31:23am

re: #483 3 wood

Nope, I saw that for the Ponzi scheme that it was long time ago.

I'm very careful about naming particular companies on line here, cause I don't want to appear to be touting or slamming individual companies. If we had a functioning SEC, they would be going after people for that.

But let me just say that there are several large, apparently healthy companies out there tight now whose stock I will not hold due to irregularities in their book keeping, regardless of the economy.

All you have to do is read the SEC filings and the foot notes in their annual reports to know what I'm talking about.

Madoff's was like a neon sign going off that something was not on the up and up.

And this is why I don't invest money myself. I just don't have the patience for that, and most of it is meaningless to me. Okay, back at LGF, with morning meds and vicodin kicking into gear.

495 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:32:29am

re: #473 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

So, do you guys go around reminding your friends TIA whenever some arms are cut off or whatever, like in the Diamond propaganda movie?

I always wanted to ask my friend, but it is his homeland and didn't want to be insulting.

Ask your friend valid questions. If he is realistic he knows where this country is going. The problem is does he have a way out. If not most white S. Africans will shout you down. Be careful you don't want to lose a friend over this.

496 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:33:58am

re: #495 Erik The Red

Ask your friend valid questions. If he is realistic he knows where this country is going. The problem is does he have a way out. If not most white S. Africans will shout you down. Be careful you don't want to lose a friend over this.

is social upheaval imminent or whatever?...

497 Joan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:35:04am

re: #469 BBev

Good Morning Real here is what it was like yesterday here in NH Your text to link...
Repost from upthread

Wow, BBev, it looks like a doozy. Think I'll go search generators. And car ports--and have that dang sick locust tree removed that just looms over our roof. Stay warm

498 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:35:41am

re: #485 realwest

How are you today and WTH is with Da Bears? They are STILL in the playoff hunt!

Doing fine, taking care of the two dogs while the Mrs. and daughter #3 go to a cookie exchange for the morning.

The Bears are no play off team. Their receivers are awful.

If you watch any tape on them, you realize that their receivers can not get any separation and they do not block on running plays.

That means that they can not pass consistently, and they can not run wide cause of the lack of blocking. Once you realize that, then you also realize all they can really do is run up the middle and the little flare passes to the fullback/TE.

Any decent defense will shut that down, and they are toast.

The Bears need a left tackle, a right tackle, a guard, a middle linebacker (Urlacher is done) a center, 3 wide receivers, a left defensive end, a corner and two safeties in this next draft. Problem is they only get about half that number of picks.

499 wahabicorridor  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:37:20am

re: #483 3 wood

If we had a functioning SEC, they would be going after people for that.

That's what I was wondering? Why DIDN'T the SEC catch this? And why did his own kids turn him in?

500 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:38:02am

re: #495 Erik The Red

Ask your friend valid questions. If he is realistic he knows where this country is going. The problem is does he have a way out. If not most white S. Africans will shout you down. Be careful you don't want to lose a friend over this.

Oh, he knows... I just don't the cultural ramifications of things that seem small to me, but might mean much more to him. He's a really good guy (even if he is a tax attorney).

He was here in September and got a real yuck out of me describing Obama as a communist. He told me he could show me a real communist, some guy running for office in SA who brought his machine gun with him onto his commercials.

501 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:38:34am

re: #458 gregg

I think GMAC's request was rejected.

Yep, so far. They can not pull together the minimum financing to qualify as a bank.

However, I think that will be taken care of with the gift from the Treasury.

502 boogberg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:38:36am

re: #474 notutopia

Seriously, it takes approx. 2 hrs. for your food to pass from your lips into your small intestine. If you eat just before you go to bed, your body isn't/doesn't rest...it's busy metabolizing and does not go into a basal state. The extra blood flow and circulation required to your digestive system, especially in a supine, prone position of sleeping which is very busy digesting that food you ate just minutes/hours before you retired, will affect you getting to the REM state of sleep...

I wouldn't be one bit surprised, Bro.

Actually, it's a wonder I'm still alive with all my bad habits. :D

I have been doing some experiments with noise levels. I've found that I sleep more soundly when it's quiet. Seriously. No radio, no TV, no nothing.

503 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:38:56am

re: #496 albusteve

is social upheaval imminent or whatever?...

Not upheaval. More like changing of the guard. Going from a mostly European culture to a African one. Almost like socialism. Bring everything down to a lower level instead of raising everything up to the higher level. Or maybe it is like an upheaval.

504 BBev  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:39:55am

re: #497 Joan

Wow, BBev, it looks like a doozy. Think I'll go search generators. And car ports--and have that dang sick locust tree removed that just looms over our roof. Stay warm

It was have never seen so many trees down on Route 93 in my life, I drove down the middle of the highway (using 2 lanes) just so I would not hit them, that was at 5 am.

505 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:40:16am

BBIAM!

506 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:40:36am

re: #426 nevergiveup

Police: Mumbai gunman asks Pakistan for legal help

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

That ranks up there with Jonathon Pollard. Who when caught spying for Israel and with the FBI on his tail ran to the Israeli Embassy in DC.

lotta good that did him

507 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:41:08am

re: #503 Erik The Red

Not upheaval. More like changing of the guard. Going from a mostly European culture to a African one. Almost like socialism. Bring everything down to a lower level instead of raising everything up to the higher level. Or maybe it is like an upheaval.

Wow. Just, wow. I know how weird it feels to see the US change its culture the way it has the last twenty years. What you are describing is even scarier.

508 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:42:23am

re: #500 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Oh, he knows... I just don't the cultural ramifications of things that seem small to me, but might mean much more to him. He's a really good guy (even if he is a tax attorney).

He was here in September and got a real yuck out of me describing Obama as a communist. He told me he could show me a real communist, some guy running for office in SA who brought his machine gun with him onto his commercials.

LOL The next President of S. Africa Jacob ZumaGive me mt machine gun

509 boogberg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:42:48am

re: #505 realwest

Grab me an 18 while you're out, would ya? :D

510 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:44:34am

re: #503 Erik The Red

Not upheaval. More like changing of the guard. Going from a mostly European culture to a African one. Almost like socialism. Bring everything down to a lower level instead of raising everything up to the higher level. Or maybe it is like an upheaval.

should be interesting to watch unfold...from a distance I suppose

511 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:45:05am

Hey realwest, how is that new PC working out? Any problems with Vista?

512 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:45:48am

re: #507 vxbush

Wow. Just, wow. I know how weird it feels to see the US change its culture the way it has the last twenty years. What you are describing is even scarier.

You have it easy in the US. No matter how much damage Obama does the US electorate can change it in 4-8 years. How often do you hear about a change of government in Africa?

513 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:45:56am

re: #508 Erik The Red

LOL The next President of S. Africa Jacob ZumaGive me mt machine gun

The world used to make sense.

/ok maybe not... but we thought it did.

514 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:46:03am

re: #504 BBev

It was have never seen so many trees down on Route 93 in my life, I drove down the middle of the highway (using 2 lanes) just so I would not hit them, that was at 5 am.

Saw some of those pics and news reports. Pretty much of a mess. We will have middle 50's here in Colorado toady, and then, by Sunday night fall, down to -5 degrees. Also 3-4 inches of snow around Denver by SUnday morning. Weather changes rather fast in the Rockies.

515 reine.de.tout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:47:40am

re: #512 Erik The Red

You have it easy in the US. No matter how much damage Obama does the US electorate can change it in 4-8 years. How often do you hear about a change of government in Africa?

Not often and when you do, it seems to be a change for the worse.

516 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:48:06am

Have a great day everyone... have to work today. Later, dudes and dudettes.

517 Crux Australis  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:48:16am

re: #465 Erik The Red

I could write 3000 words on why this country is so great. It can take 2 words to say why it has no future. Africa and violence.

It makes me thankful of and makes me cherish my quiet "corner" of the globe all the more.

518 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:49:02am

re: #510 albusteve

should be interesting to watch unfold...from a distance I suppose

Far distance. The problem is that I will be leaving family and very good friends when I return. I really worry for their future. It will be a day of joy and tears when I leave.

519 Captain Amercia  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:50:21am
DETROIT — The leaders of General Motors Corp. and the United Auto Workers union told Congress this week that a new union contract will virtually erase the labour cost gap between GM and foreign competitors with U.S. factories. That’s not quite true, according to GM’s own figures.

I have been thinking about this lately: If Congress and Obama have been running around saying that this executive should resign or that CEO should be fired why hasn’t anyone said the same about this guy Gettlefinger? After all he’s the head of the UAW and they are main players in this debacle in Detroit. The UAW is just as much, if not MORE responsible for bankrupting the Big Three than Congress is.

We all know Congressmen like Barney Frank should be fired or at least have the decency to resign (But selfishness and ego won’t allow it). We have all heard the calls for the jet setting heads of the big three to resign. But it seems that Gettlefinger is walking through the raindrops here.

FIRSTIN

520 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:50:24am

re: #517 Crux Australis

It makes me thankful of and makes me cherish my quiet "corner" of the globe all the more.

likewise..new mexico is very ho hum...I love it here for that reason alone

521 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:50:45am

re: #512 Erik The Red

You have it easy in the US. No matter how much damage Obama does the US electorate can change it in 4-8 years. How often do you hear about a change of government in Africa?

I have known for some time that the good L-rd was kind to me and let me grow up and live in the US. And I have to remind myself now that even though I have grave concerns about the future, I still live in one of the best places in the world. Your point is well taken, and I wish you safety.

522 Macker  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:51:13am

re: #465 Erik The Red

I could write 3000 words on why this country is so great. It can take 2 words to say why it has no future. Africa and violence.

And then there's Robert Mugabe, that Dirty F**kin' Communist.

523 BBev  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:51:51am

re: #514 Walter L. Newton

Saw some of those pics and news reports. Pretty much of a mess. We will have middle 50's here in Colorado toady, and then, by Sunday night fall, down to -5 degrees. Also 3-4 inches of snow around Denver by SUnday morning. Weather changes rather fast in the Rockies.

It's going to be in the 50's here on Monday

524 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:51:58am

re: #480 boogberg

I've put in an offer of $3.00/share for 500 shares of GM, 3 wood.

Whatcha think?

Right now it's at $3.94 a share pointed down.

I presume you mean a bid to buy and not an offer to sell.

If so, I doubt anybody will take your bid right now.

What I think will happen with GM and Chrysler is this:

1. The Treasury will carry them through March cause Bush does not want them declaring bankruptcy on his watch. Part of that may be tied to a deal with Congress to cut loose some more of the$700 billion.

2. In March Obama will declare that nationalizing health care is an economic stimulus requirement to relieve businesses of the cost, like it's going to vanish. Part of that deal will be for the Fed's to assume liability for the legacy costs for the auto companies (and maybe all union contracts).

3. So then the share price of the auto makers will likely jump due to less long term burden.

525 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:52:07am

re: #514 Walter L. Newton

I was attending school at Ft Devens, Mass, and took Christmas leave. My amigo and I started out just as an ice storm arrived. From Worchester, Mass all the way to Pittsburgh, Pa, thru a nasty ice storm-slowest and scariest trip ever. We got there, but it was a bit hair raising...

526 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:52:10am

re: #521 vxbush

I have known for some time that the good L-rd was kind to me and let me grow up and live in the US. And I have to remind myself now that even though I have grave concerns about the future, I still live in one of the best places in the world. Your point is well taken, and I wish you safety.

You do. And I thank G_d and my parents that I have the "blue passport".

527 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:52:46am

From an email:
A Different Christmas Poem
The embers glowed softly, and in their dim light,
I gazed round the room and I cherished the sight.
My wife was asleep, her head on my chest,
My daughter beside me, angelic in rest.
Outside the snow fell, a blanket of white,
Transforming the yard to a winter delight.

The sparkling lights in the tree I believe,
Completed the magic that was Christmas Eve.
My eyelids were heavy, my breathing was deep,
Secure and surrounded by love I would sleep.
In perfect contentment, or so it would seem,
So I slumbered, perhaps I started to dream.

The sound wasn ' t loud, and it wasn ' t too near,
But I opened my eyes when it tickled my ear.
Perhaps just a cough, I didn ' t quite know, Then the
sure sound of footsteps outside in the snow.
My soul gave a tremble, I struggled to hear,
And I crept to the door just to see who was near.

Standing out in the cold and the dark of the night,
A lone figure stood, his face weary and tight.
A soldier, I puzzled, some twenty years old,
Perhaps a Marine, huddled here in the cold.
Alone in the dark, he looked up and smiled,
Standing watch over me, and my wife and my child.

"What are you doing?" I asked without fear,
"Come in this moment, it ' s freezing out here!
Put down your pack, brush the snow from your sleeve,
You should be at home on a cold Christmas Eve!"
For barely a moment I saw his eyes shift,
Away from the cold and the snow blown in drifts..

To the window that danced with a warm fire ' s light
Then he sighed and he said "Its really all right,
I ' m out here by choice. I ' m here every night.
It ' s my duty to stand at the front of the line,
That separates you from the darkest of times.

No one had to ask or beg or implore me,
I ' m proud to stand here like my fathers before me.
My Gramps died at ' Pearl on a day in December,"
Then he sighed, "That ' s a Christmas ' Gram always remembers.
My dad stood his watch in the jungles of ' Nam ' ,
With God always beside me, here I am.

I ' ve not seen my own son in more than a while,
But my wife sends me pictures, he ' s sure got her smile. "
Then he bent and he carefully pulled from his bag,
The red, white, and blue... an American flag.
"I can live through the cold and the being alone,
Away from my family, my house and my home.

I can stand at my post through the rain and the sleet,
I can sleep in a foxhole with little to eat.
I can carry the weight of killing another,
Or lay down my life with my sister and brother..
Who stand at the front against any and all,
To ensure for all time that belief in God and this flag will not fall."

"So go back inside," he said, "harbor no fright,
Your family is waiting and I ' ll be all right."
"But isn ' t there something I can do, at the least,
Give you money," I asked, "or prepare you a feast?
It seems all too little for all that you ' ve done,
For being away from your wife and your son."

Then his eye welled a tear that held no regret,
"Just tell us you love us, and never forget.
To fight for our rights back at home while we ' re gone,
To stand your own watch for freedom, no matter how long.
For when we come home, either standing or dead,
To know you remember for God and country we fought and we bled.
Is payment enough, and in God we will trust,
That we mattered to you as you mattered to us."

PLEASE, would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many
people as you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit and thanks is due to God and our
U.S service men and women for our being able to celebrate these
festivities. Let ' s try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. Make people
stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed themselves for us.

LCDR Jeff Giles, SC, USN

528 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:53:15am

re: #524 3 wood

Right now it's at $3.94 a share pointed down.

I presume you mean a bid to buy and not an offer to sell.

If so, I doubt anybody will take your bid right now.

What I think will happen with GM and Chrysler is this:

1. The Treasury will carry them through March cause Bush does not want them declaring bankruptcy on his watch. Part of that may be tied to a deal with Congress to cut loose some more of the$700 billion.

2. In March Obama will declare that nationalizing health care is an economic stimulus requirement to relieve businesses of the cost, like it's going to vanish. Part of that deal will be for the Fed's to assume liability for the legacy costs for the auto companies (and maybe all union contracts).

3. So then the share price of the auto makers will likely jump due to less long term burden.

Man, when you start predicting the future, I start getting scared. You have a very good track record.

529 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:53:17am

re: #518 Erik The Red

Far distance. The problem is that I will be leaving family and very good friends when I return. I really worry for their future. It will be a day of joy and tears when I leave.

nobody knows which way the winds gonna blow...you do what you must eh?

530 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:53:33am

re: #522 Macker

And then there's Robert Mugabe, that Dirty F**kin' Communist.

Words can not express what a "person" he really is.

531 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:53:53am

Great report from Michael Yon on the Lithuanian Special Forces

Hell’s Angels — Lithuanian Style

U.S. and Afghan soldiers in Zabul Province give high marks to the Lithuanian Special Forces, who like to ride these captured Taliban motorbikes to sneak up on, and chase Taliban fighters. The “LithSof” are on their way to becoming living legends: Both Afghans and Americans report that the Taliban are afraid of the Lithuanians. Stories about them are filled with dangerous escapades and humor.

Americans say that the Lithuanians are sort of a weaponized version of Borat, who think nothing of sauntering around a base in nothing but flip-flops and underwear. “They look like mountain men. They never shave, sometimes don’t bathe, and often roll out the gate wearing nothing but body armor and weapons. Not even a t-shirt,” an American soldier told me. The Lithuanians may be a little bit nuts, but the Americans love to have them around because Lithuanians love to fight, and when you need backup, you can count on them. That contrasts starkly with many of the NATO “partners.” Maybe when your country spends almost a half-century with the Soviet boot on its neck, its first generation of free soldiers know what freedom is worth — and that you sometimes have to fight for it.

532 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:53:58am

re: #526 Erik The Red

You do. And I thank G_d and my parents that I have the "blue passport".

Heh. Better then either the red or the blue pill. :D

533 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:54:20am

re: #485 realwest

Hey my friend! You sure know how to turn a phrase:
"people will dump those treasuries faster than a a jack rabbit on a date," LOL!

Wish I could take credit, but I stole the "jack rabbit on a date" part from A Christmas Story, as in Ralphies description of how fast his Dad could change a flat tire.

534 boogberg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:54:24am

I think normal folks are getting fed up with Mugabe. I heard even the EU wants to kick his ass. :D

535 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:55:51am

re: #486 Desert Dog

$50 Billion...that is amazing though...he fooled enough people apparantly

There are a lot of dummies out there.

As Exhibit 1 of that fact, I refer to the most recent election.

536 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:57:53am

re: #531 gregg

Great report from Michael Yon on the Lithuanian Special Forces

Hell’s Angels — Lithuanian Style

ha!...that is so cool...there's a movie in there somewhere

537 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:58:05am

re: #535 3 wood

There are a lot of dummies out there.

As Exhibit 1 of that fact, I refer to the most recent election.

Heh. Yes, we'll be able to use that example for decades to come.

538 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:58:17am

re: #511 Wishing Hi Wishing - well I like the blazing speed of VISTA and it's not that hard to figure out if you've been on XP, but a LOT of software is NOT VISTA compatible - like my old e-mail system! I have to use Web Mail to keep my e-mail addy and it doesn't notify me when I have mail, doesn't have a spam blocker, etc. etc. and there is other software that I've tried to get but have been told they don't make it in a VISTA O/S compatible format!

539 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:58:39am

re: #535 3 wood

There are a lot of dummies out there.

As Exhibit 1 of that fact, I refer to the most recent election.

DOH... Morning 3 wood... Man that's going to leave a bruise... ;)

540 wahabicorridor  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:58:49am

re: #527 newsjunkie_ky

That's going straight to our adopted soldier at Camp Bucca Iraq right now...

541 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:59:06am

Good morning all!

I finally got my PC back from daddy, who had to wipe the hard drive because the virus ruined everything. I will be setting it up later.

The thing that get me is, I scan daily. And I was online when the virus struck. I got a pop-up saying Norton found a virus and had it quarantined and did I want to get rid of it. My Norton icon was even blinking in the lower bar, so I clicked yes. Well when I did that IE started opening window after window...rapidly.

BAM!

Now I don't know what to trust by way of anti virus ware.

542 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:59:33am

re: #525 Pietr

I was attending school at Ft Devens, Mass, and took Christmas leave. My amigo and I started out just as an ice storm arrived. From Worchester, Mass all the way to Pittsburgh, Pa, thru a nasty ice storm-slowest and scariest trip ever. We got there, but it was a bit hair raising...

Back in the 60's, I use to drive from north Jersey to Philadelphia every Sun. during the months of Nov. and Dec. That was only 90 miles each way, but it was mainly a 2 lane country road until just around Lancaster. When we ran into ice or snow, something it would take 5 hours just to drive one way.

From Ma. to Pa., in an ice storm, your nuts :)

543 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 6:59:39am

re: #538 realwest

Hi Wishing - well I like the blazing speed of VISTA and it's not that hard to figure out if you've been on XP, but a LOT of software is NOT VISTA compatible - like my old e-mail system! I have to use Web Mail to keep my e-mail addy and it doesn't notify me when I have mail, doesn't have a spam blocker, etc. etc. and there is other software that I've tried to get but have been told they don't make it in a VISTA O/S compatible format!

Mornning real... What's a class act slacker like you doing up this early?

544 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:00:04am

HEY Y'ALL - I just remembered - today is my FIFTH YEAR ANNIVERSARY of being on LGF!
Yup started on December 13th, 2003!

Geez, I'm old!
And Charles is TOLERANT to the max! LOL!

545 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:00:14am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

A frozen day in the Valley, around 8 below but we've plenty of sinshine to cheer me up.

What snoo?

546 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:00:48am

re: #545 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

A frozen day in the Valley, around 8 below but we've plenty of sinshine to cheer me up.

What snoo?

Oh I dont know... What's snoo with you?

547 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:01:13am

re: #541 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Good morning all!

I finally got my PC back from daddy, who had to wipe the hard drive because the virus ruined everything. I will be setting it up later.

The thing that get me is, I scan daily. And I was online when the virus struck. I got a pop-up saying Norton found a virus and had it quarantined and did I want to get rid of it. My Norton icon was even blinking in the lower bar, so I clicked yes. Well when I did that IE started opening window after window...rapidly.

BAM!

Now I don't know what to trust by way of anti virus ware.

I scrubbed my HD last year and installed Kasperski...the whole enchilada and am very pleased

548 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:01:27am

re: #529 albusteve

nobody knows which way the winds gonna blow...you do what you must eh?

Yea I know. We decided in January this year that we are returning. Almost all the family has been supportive. You would not believe the reaction of some of are "friends". Almost like fuck you. Don't know if it is jealousy or they feel like we have made our money here and taking it some where better and leaving them behind.

549 Macker  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:01:28am

re: #538 realwest

What did you use for e-mail before Vista?

550 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:01:48am

re: #531 gregg

Interesting read

551 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:03:01am

re: #541 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Good morning all!

I finally got my PC back from daddy, who had to wipe the hard drive because the virus ruined everything. I will be setting it up later.

The thing that get me is, I scan daily. And I was online when the virus struck. I got a pop-up saying Norton found a virus and had it quarantined and did I want to get rid of it. My Norton icon was even blinking in the lower bar, so I clicked yes. Well when I did that IE started opening window after window...rapidly.

BAM!

Now I don't know what to trust by way of anti virus ware.

It's really hard to keep straight of what is legit and what isn't if you haven't been in the computer business a long time. I have to give the spammers credit: they have done some amazingly good ads that look like they're helpful on the net, but they do nothing but eat machines.

I'm sorry you got hit, but at least you have family who can help you out.

552 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:03:19am

re: #545 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

A frozen day in the Valley, around 8 below but we've plenty of sinshine to cheer me up.

What snoo?

Well, you always have OOOGODDDHEEENRY to keep warm.

I told the story of the our little back and forth comments from the Fri. morning thread to everyone at the theatre. I got a good laugh from most of them. It's hard to get any reaction out of theatre folk at 8 in the morning, since that's just not their normal time to be performing or even awake.

553 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:03:23am

re: #547 albusteve

I scrubbed my HD last year and installed Kasperski...the whole enchilada and am very pleased


I'm taking all suggestions and then researching...and I'm going to buy some thumb drives.

554 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:03:43am

re: #494 vxbush

And this is why I don't invest money myself. I just don't have the patience for that, and most of it is meaningless to me

Well, you are good at systems stuff, I'm good at recognizing patterns.

It's like reading a blitz in football. Easiest thing in the world to do if you only understand the the situation.

When the corner backs all line up inside the receivers (to take away the quick slant pass) and then a safety or a linebacker starts walking up to the line, it's a cinch.

Only breathing human being in the world I know of who can not read that is Donovan McNabb.

It's the same thing with reading stocks.

When you see SEC filings that the CEO is giving himslef postdated stock options, you got problems coming.

555 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:04:43am

re: #543 doriangrey
I got up cause I was freezing my ass off - heat not on, temp below 25! What's your excuse for being up so early? You gonna use that "I gotta get to work" routine again?!
:)

556 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:04:56am

re: #548 Erik The Red

Yea I know. We decided in January this year that we are returning. Almost all the family has been supportive. You would not believe the reaction of some of are "friends". Almost like fuck you. Don't know if it is jealousy or they feel like we have made our money here and taking it some where better and leaving them behind.

nice when your friends support such a major decision.../

557 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:04:58am

re: #553 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I'm taking all suggestions and then researching...and I'm going to buy some thumb drives.

A backup of your files is the most important thing you can do. I was pleased with Kaspersky when I used it, but I heard something about them a few days ago and now I can't remember what the heck it was...

558 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:04:59am

re: #551 vxbush

It's really hard to keep straight of what is legit and what isn't if you haven't been in the computer business a long time. I have to give the spammers credit: they have done some amazingly good ads that look like they're helpful on the net, but they do nothing but eat machines.

I'm sorry you got hit, but at least you have family who can help you out.


My daddy is so smart! He's 64 and knows more about computers than I do.

559 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:05:27am

re: #499 wahabicorridor

That's what I was wondering? Why DIDN'T the SEC catch this? And why did his own kids turn him in?

The current head of the SEC, Cox, is a total joke.

560 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:05:29am

re: #538 realwest

Hi Wishing - well I like the blazing speed of VISTA and it's not that hard to figure out if you've been on XP, but a LOT of software is NOT VISTA compatible - like my old e-mail system! I have to use Web Mail to keep my e-mail addy and it doesn't notify me when I have mail, doesn't have a spam blocker, etc. etc. and there is other software that I've tried to get but have been told they don't make it in a VISTA O/S compatible format!

AHA! Just last night I decided to find an email app that WORKED. I did not want the MS Word package, so outlook was out. However, somewhere on your machine you have
Windows Mail. I had been using Eudora, which is really Thunderbird and i HATED it!
Windows Mail is very similar to the OLD outlook express. Go to All Programs and look for Windows Mail.

561 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:05:36am

newsjunkie_ky (#527),

Nice.

Thanks for posting.

562 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:06:35am

re: #555 realwest

I got up cause I was freezing my ass off - heat not on, temp below 25! What's your excuse for being up so early? You gonna use that "I gotta get to work" routine again?!
:)

Early? Hell I slept in till 6am this morning... I'm usually up at 4am... ;p

563 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:06:44am

re: #557 vxbush

A backup of your files is the most important thing you can do. I was pleased with Kaspersky when I used it, but I heard something about them a few days ago and now I can't remember what the heck it was...

if it's bad dont tell me...I wouldnt know what to do about it...

564 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:06:47am

re: #556 albusteve

nice when your friends support such a major decision.../

We have learned who our real mates are this year. That is for sure.

565 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:06:52am

re: #545 {Miss Trixie}
Hey good morning gorgeous *smoooch* to you! How are ya doing? I'm ok, "celebrating" my anniversarty here at LGF!

566 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:06:57am

re: #554 3 wood

Well, you are good at systems stuff, I'm good at recognizing patterns.

It's like reading a blitz in football. Easiest thing in the world to do if you only understand the the situation.

When the corner backs all line up inside the receivers (to take away the quick slant pass) and then a safety or a linebacker starts walking up to the line, it's a cinch.

Only breathing human being in the world I know of who can not read that is Donovan McNabb.

It's the same thing with reading stocks.

When you see SEC filings that the CEO is giving himslef postdated stock options, you got problems coming.

True. But I can't read football plays or basketball plays, which my husband can pick up on in a heartbeat. He's tried to explain it to me, but I just can't process ten guys running on a court. I'm too detail specific.

567 lincolntf  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:07:17am

re: #525 Pietr

That's Worcester, not Worchester. It's pronounced "Woostah". It's my hometown. Whenever there is a story that makes national (sometimes even regional) news, the anchor calls it Worchester. I'm trying to think of something interesting to say about the place, but there isn't much. The guy who played "Carmine" on Laverne and Shirley was from there (Eddie Something), Sacco and Vanzetti hung out there for a while, an episode of X-Files was set there, the designer of the "smiley face" logo (Harvey Ball) was working at a Worcester Co. when he came up with it, the birth control pill was invented there. That's about it.
You were better off in the ice storm than you would have been hanging around "Wormtown" (a local nickname for Woostah").

568 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:07:23am

re: #559 3 wood

The current head of the SEC, Cox, is a total joke.

I know.

So do you think Madoff is going to off himself, or is his ego too big for that?

569 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:07:31am

re: #542 Walter L. Newton

I grew up In Dayton, Ohio, so ice storms get respect, but get driven thru when needed. The need was to be with the wife and daughter for Christmas-since we'd only had 1 week together in the previous year or more. Scariest part was crossing some LONG/HIGH 2lane bridge, high over a gorge, going from upstate NY into upper Pa. Windy, skidding, but managed to cross with only a few gray hairs added. This would've been late December in 1973...long ways back.

570 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:07:59am

VHD is spot on again...I am not religious, but we should all be holding our rosary beads and praying like crazy over the next few years.

571 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:08:04am

re: #563 albusteve

if it's bad dont tell me...I wouldnt know what to do about it...

That's what is driving me crazy--I can't recall at all! Of course, the Vicodin is finally kicking in, so I don't care as much...

572 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:08:29am

re: #565 realwest

Hey good morning gorgeous *smoooch* to you! How are ya doing? I'm ok, "celebrating" my anniversarty here at LGF!

ROTFLMAO... You old LGF geezer... ;p

573 wahabicorridor  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:08:57am

re: #545 Miss Trixie

Good mronin' darls! Did you get a chance to read the piece on that restaurant in China I sent you?

574 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:10:05am

re: #567 lincolntf

That's Worcester, not Worchester. It's pronounced "Woostah". It's my hometown. Whenever there is a story that makes national (sometimes even regional) news, the anchor calls it Worchester. I'm trying to think of something interesting to say about the place, but there isn't much. The guy who played "Carmine" on Laverne and Shirley was from there (Eddie Something), Sacco and Vanzetti hung out there for a while, an episode of X-Files was set there, the designer of the "smiley face" logo (Harvey Ball) was working at a Worcester Co. when he came up with it, the birth control pill was invented there. That's about it.
You were better off in the ice storm than you would have been hanging around "Wormtown" (a local nickname for Woostah").

Is that were you teach evolution on a daily basis will you are working on your career in Natural History.

Or do you just spend your time on LGF being a jerk and correcting people's spelling?

Done any flat work lately, Mr. Wizard?

575 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:10:07am

re: #567 lincolntf

That's Worcester, not Worchester. It's pronounced "Woostah". It's my hometown. Whenever there is a story that makes national (sometimes even regional) news, the anchor calls it Worchester. I'm trying to think of something interesting to say about the place, but there isn't much. The guy who played "Carmine" on Laverne and Shirley was from there (Eddie Something), Sacco and Vanzetti hung out there for a while, an episode of X-Files was set there, the designer of the "smiley face" logo (Harvey Ball) was working at a Worcester Co. when he came up with it, the birth control pill was invented there. That's about it.
You were better off in the ice storm than you would have been hanging around "Wormtown" (a local nickname for Woostah").

I thought that the smiley face logo was invented by Forest Gump while he was running! ;)

576 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:10:08am

Going to put some ribs and lamb chops on the braai(bbq). bbl. Braai (pronounced bry) is such a good word to express meat cooked on a fire.

577 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:10:44am

re: #573 wahabicorridor

Good mronin' darls! Did you get a chance to read the piece on that restaurant in China I sent you?

Does that restaurant serve "Magic chicken"? Mmmm Magic Chicken... ;p

578 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:10:45am

re: #539 doriangrey

'Morning Dorian.

579 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:11:24am

re: #549 Macker
Earthlink's TotalAccess 2005. And although they are coming out with a Total Access 2008 (there haven't been any 06's or '07 versions) it won't really be an e-mail system - at least that's what earthlink told me when I cursed 'em out talked to them on the phone!
And I don't get this - even though Walter I. Newton from Golden Colorado explained it to me in a business need sense - you haven't been able to buy a new PC with anything OTHER than a VISTA O/S for at least a year or a year and a half.

580 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:11:35am

re: #567 lincolntf

Ya know-I started to spell it right, before I spelled it wrong.
/white smoke.

581 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:12:21am

re: #576 Erik The Red

Be sure to cover it all with Peri-Peri

582 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:13:07am

re: #560 Wishing
Well I would but the guys from the Geek Squad have told me, several times now, that Windows Mail is probably the least reliable, and least secure form of e-mail you can get!

583 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:13:10am

re: #539 doriangrey

DOH... Morning 3 wood... Man that's going to leave a bruise... ;)

Nice picture!

Sorry, I just had to.

584 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:13:15am

re: #564 Erik The Red

We have learned who our real mates are this year. That is for sure.

my wise old dad always would say "forge ahead...keep moving and never look back with regret or remorse"

585 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:13:33am

re: #569 Pietr

I grew up In Dayton, Ohio, so ice storms get respect, but get driven thru when needed. The need was to be with the wife and daughter for Christmas-since we'd only had 1 week together in the previous year or more. Scariest part was crossing some LONG/HIGH 2lane bridge, high over a gorge, going from upstate NY into upper Pa. Windy, skidding, but managed to cross with only a few gray hairs added. This would've been late December in 1973...long ways back.

I know northeastern ice storms. Live up that way from 52 to 74. Those pictures I saw of Ma. looked nasty, but nothing new, I've seen it before.

If you want to see something funny (tragic?), look for videos on the web after an ice storm hits places like Dallas or New Orleans (like it did last week).

I lived in Texas from 74-89, those folks are not use to slippery roads.

It looks like the ice skating rink at Rockefeller Center.

586 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:13:58am

re: #551 vxbush

Hey VX, thought you would get a grin out of this.

My daughter was babysitting a super hyper 10 year old boy at our house last night, and the boy was driving her crazy within 5 minutes. So I took the 2 of them with me to the local hockey game last night. The 10 year old boy was transfixed by the action on the ice, my daughter spent the game text messaging to her friends on her cell phone, and it was the easiest babysitting $ my daughter ever made.

587 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:14:02am

lincolntf (#567),

My dad grew up there. Moved to Templeton about 1950.

588 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:14:15am

re: #571 vxbush

That's what is driving me crazy--I can't recall at all! Of course, the Vicodin is finally kicking in, so I don't care as much...

I've taken a boatload of vicodin over the last 5 weeks so I get what youre sayin

589 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:14:44am

re: #588 albusteve

I've taken a boatload of vicodin over the last 5 weeks so I get what youre sayin

Some of you people have all the fun :)

590 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:14:54am

re: #586 3 wood

Hey VX, thought you would get a grin out of this.

My daughter was babysitting a super hyper 10 year old boy at our house last night, and the boy was driving her crazy within 5 minutes. So I took the 2 of them with me to the local hockey game last night. The 10 year old boy was transfixed by the action on the ice, my daughter spent the game text messaging to her friends on her cell phone, and it was the easiest babysitting $ my daughter ever made.

You softy, you! You should have made her babysit the boy on her own; it's the best form of birth control I've found yet for teenagers and young adults.

591 BlueCanuck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:15:17am

Busy, busy, busy. Porting all my links back to Opera and doing laundry.
Time to cut down on my browsers.

/now if I only could get rid of IE. . . .

592 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:16:05am

re: #582 realwest

Well I would but the guys from the Geek Squad have told me, several times now, that Windows Mail is probably the least reliable, and least secure form of e-mail software you can get!

I made a few corrections.

593 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:16:48am

Lifts a cup of eggnog in realwest's direction.

594 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:17:51am

re: #589 Walter L. Newton

Some of you people have all the fun :)

fun?...I've been lost in a blur of pain and discomfort for almost two months...two surgeries and one more to go...feel for me bro!...hahaha

595 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:18:01am

re: #587 Geepers
Hey hi Geepers! I hope you're doing well today - sorry about your having to wade through all the complimentary comments, celebrating my 5 years out here on LGF today!
/

596 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:18:01am

re: #581 Desert Dog

Be sure to cover it all with Peri-Peri

You know more about S.A than you let on.lol

597 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:18:19am

FYI: I was on pandora.com last night and they have a really nice selection of Christmas "stations", one of which is called "peaceful" and is just wonderful. No rockers trying to sing Silent Night, no weird vocalizations of the classics, just lovely arrangements of Christmas songs with very simple instrumentation. Could be good background music for parties and such.

598 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:18:25am

re: #566 vxbush

True. But I can't read football plays or basketball plays, which my husband can pick up on in a heartbeat. He's tried to explain it to me, but I just can't process ten guys running on a court. I'm too detail specific.

Well, part of it is I played a little bit.

You get smoked by a blitzing safety and end up looking out your ear hole and having a coach ask if you can count two fingers, you learn to look for these things.

Been there, done it.

599 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:18:42am

re: #585 Walter L. Newton

I've called San Antonio home since '77-know what you mean. Lived in Altus, Ok from 70-71; any snow or ice, and I'd just sit home. That is until the Base would call and send us out rescuing stuck Okies for a 60 mile radius...LOL.

600 wahabicorridor  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:19:13am

re: #577 doriangrey

Does that restaurant serve "Magic chicken"? Mmmm Magic Chicken... ;p

Nope

Letter from China

601 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:19:44am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!
Only twelve more days to go ...
Here's a nice 'gift' for the New Year:

SAS to take on Taleban 'decapitation' mission after leaving Iraq.

Taleban better watch out - your own General Petraeus was full of praise for what the SAS did in Iraq ...

(Not that we'll ever hear of how and what they're doing - but the results, yep, they will become obvious!)

602 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:19:47am

re: #590 vxbush

You softy, you! You should have made her babysit the boy on her own; it's the best form of birth control I've found yet for teenagers and young adults.

Birth control?

I'll tell you a scary story (well, it was scary for me). Yesterday morning we had a special performance of our "A O. Henry Christmas" for a school group of 125 eight graders.

They all got into their seats rather quickly and orderly. A was roaming the room, trying to be helpful when needed.

I saw a teacher standing, looking around the theatre, as if she needed something or was looking for something. I asked her if there was anything I could help her with.

She said "No, I'm just checking out some certain boys and girls. We can't let them sit together in a darkened room."

Ok, that was weird, these kids are in 8th grade.

603 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:19:50am

re: #568 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

So do you think Madoff is going to off himself, or is his ego too big for that?

He don't give a rat's ass for nobody but himself.

He will take whatever is coming and go grinning. I'm sure he's got dough stashed where they can't find it.

604 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:19:52am

re: #584 albusteve

my wise old dad always would say "forge ahead...keep moving and never look back with regret or remorse"

No regrets on any decisions I have ever made in my life. You make your bed, you sleep in it.

605 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:20:21am

re: #598 3 wood

Well, part of it is I played a little bit.

You get smoked by a blitzing safety and end up looking out your ear hole and having a coach ask if you can count two fingers, you learn to look for these things.

Been there, done it.

Ah. For me, the closest would be getting hit on the head with a rifle during marching band practice.

606 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:20:28am

re: #582 realwest

Well I would but the guys from the Geek Squad have told me, several times now, that Windows Mail is probably the least reliable, and least secure form of e-mail you can get!

You can get a free digital ID, including encryption, if you like from Comodo , to secure your email. Only takes a minute.

607 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:21:02am

Twilight 2000 is back...oh rah

[Link: www.93gamesstudio.com...]

608 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:21:37am

re: #596 Erik The Red

You know more about S.A than you let on.lol

Naaa, Mrs. Desert Dog worked in S.A. (Capetown) back in the 80's. She really loved that place. We can buy Peri Peri in specialty stores here in the US now...she put it on everything. I have never been to Africa, but would like to one day.

I know a bit about the history of the place, a lot more than most Americans I'd bet, who know nothing of it except Apartheid and Nelson Mandela

609 Sloppy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:21:57am

Speaking of "facetious":

How many other words can you think of that include the five vowels in alphabetic order?

610 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:22:23am

re: #602 Walter L. Newton


Ok, that was weird, these kids are in 8th grade.

Yes, and they are seeing commercials for drug enhancements during primetime TV for Cialis, Viagra, etc. Our standards for what goes on TV during prime time has slipped so far I fear what will be considered "normal" for TV in five more years.

611 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:22:57am

re: #594 albusteve

fun?...I've been lost in a blur of pain and discomfort for almost two months...two surgeries and one more to go...feel for me bro!...hahaha

Understood. I just went through a hernia surgery a few months ago. I heal really fast and easy from all kinds of surgeries, and I've had my fair share of being cut open.

So, most of the time, I'm out of the pain cycle with in a few days to a week, so the meds just sort of become a little added perk, a vacation so to speak.

I don't know what you had done, but I can tell you from my experiences, unless you have been told not to, keep moving, try to get back to normal activities as soon as you can. Don't let the pain dictate to you.

612 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:23:08am

re: #598 3 wood

Well, part of it is I played a little bit.

You get smoked by a blitzing safety and end up looking out your ear hole and having a coach ask if you can count two fingers, you learn to look for these things.

Been there, done it.

somebody is supposed to pick up that safety and if they do speed and separation will move the chains...ya gotta have the players tho

613 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:23:16am

Morning, dorian.

Walter - that's funny. Do your theatre folks read LGF?

{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie* You're an LGF fogie? How many years?

wahabbi - yes I read that and I thought it was fascinating - thanks for sending it along. Good thing they don't make Magic Chicken. :D

614 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:23:31am

re: #605 vxbush

Don't screw up that Fan-Queen Ann salute...Cheers.

615 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:24:21am

re: #588 albusteve
Good morning to you! Uh, "I've taken a boatload of vicodin over the last 5 weeks so I get what youre sayin"
are ya still floating in that boat?! That vicodin is some nasty stuff and believe me, I'm taking HUGE quantities of nasty drugs, so I hope you're off it now!

616 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:24:35am

re: #608 Desert Dog

What did the Mrs. do here?

617 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:24:43am

re: #614 Pietr

Don't screw up that Fan-Queen Ann salute...Cheers.

My problem were throwing quads; triples were fine, but quads really hurt coming down. :-

618 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:25:00am

re: #591 BlueCanuck

Busy, busy, busy. Porting all my links back to Opera and doing laundry.
Time to cut down on my browsers.

/now if I only could get rid of IE. . . .

HAHA! I read that as "trousers". HAHAHA! :D

619 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:25:33am

re: #592 gregg
Oh, let me guess - a Mac guy huh?!

620 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:25:51am

Okay, time for a housecleaning break. Better do it now while the Vicodin makes me not care...

621 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:26:05am

re: #593 Geepers Why thanks my friend! I appreciate that!

622 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:26:38am

re: #610 vxbush

Yes, and they are seeing commercials for drug enhancements during primetime TV for Cialis, Viagra, etc. Our standards for what goes on TV during prime time has slipped so far I fear what will be considered "normal" for TV in five more years.

Well, I guess in five years, to sell a O. Henry story like "The Gift of the Magi" to an audience (at least a young audience) we'll have to have Dell and Jim bopping on the bed before he goes off to work as a poor clerk in an office in New York City.

After he leaves, Dell lets her hair down and stands on the corner of 14 street selling herself, Jim comes home and has hocked his watch for some porn magazines and the all get into an argument on Christmas morning and strangle each other.

Yep, that's the ticket.

623 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:27:11am

from an email:

My how time flies.

BIRTHDAY REMINDER:
This week we celebrate a special birthday!

Monica Lewinsky turns 35.

Can you believe it? It seems like only yesterday she was crawling around the White House, on her hands and knees, putting everything in her mouth.

They grow up so fast, don't they?

624 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:27:16am

re: #618 Miss Trixie

HAHA! I read that as "trousers". HAHAHA! :D

ROTFLMAO... Still thinking about sausages eh?

625 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:27:17am

re: #616 Erik The Red

She was an expat Filipina working as an executive assistant to a construction firm in Capetown. She had a three year contract back in 1984-1987.

Then, she made the terrible mistake of meeting me

626 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:27:39am

re: #612 albusteve

somebody is supposed to pick up that safety and if they do speed and separation will move the chains...ya gotta have the players tho

The blocking back whiffed and I did not read it.

But I got even.

The safety ran back punts and I was on the kick coverage team.

I knocked him out cold on the next punt. Clean hit too.

My neighbor said it sounded like a car accident when I got him.

It was what we called a "Snot Shot", cause the guy gets hit so hard he blows snot all over his face.

That felt good...

627 wahabicorridor  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:27:42am

This is from last October, but in light of the current situation in Chicago, it's even more interesting. David Pryce-Jones is a superb writer and historian and he asks

Who's Isn't for Sale?

What part does bribery play in politics? The buying and selling of opinions and decisions is almost entirely invisible, and the glimpses we obtain into this murkiness are usually not to be trusted. But it happens. When I was writing about the German occupation of France in the world war, a collaborating editor from that time explained to me how the Germans had secretly subsidised the French press. In France, he said, free speech was always for sale. The Soviets were to pay similar subsidies in the Cold War. Oleg Gordievsky, the KGB defector, revealed for instance that Moscow had given money to the left-wing paper Tribune, (which has just closed after a long and misguided ideological run). An excellent French investigative journalist, Jean Montaldo, one day came across heaps of bank documents that were being discarded in Paris, showing the secret payments that Moscow was making to all sorts of Frenchmen whose Communist affiliations were otherwise unknown. A former member of MI6, the British intelligence service, once told me how his wartime job had been to suborn the government of an important country to keep it from joining the German Axis — I had better not say which country. In detail, he described transporting boxes of gold sovereigns packed in straw, and how he had handed them out. By the end of the war, he said, he had every single member of that government on the take.

More at the link, including specualtion that Churchill may have bribed Franco.


must get food. have a great day everyone!

628 JacksonTn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:27:50am

Good Morning Lizards ...

There has been a spotting of Winston Wolf in Chicago ...he will "clean up" all this mess for Obama ...he has been on retainer since the election ...so do not fear this little Blago thingy will go away soon ...America will be saved ...!

///thugs, thugs and more thugs

629 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:28:40am

re: #611 Walter L. Newton

Understood. I just went through a hernia surgery a few months ago. I heal really fast and easy from all kinds of surgeries, and I've had my fair share of being cut open.

So, most of the time, I'm out of the pain cycle with in a few days to a week, so the meds just sort of become a little added perk, a vacation so to speak.

I don't know what you had done, but I can tell you from my experiences, unless you have been told not to, keep moving, try to get back to normal activities as soon as you can. Don't let the pain dictate to you.

two femoral bypasses in my right leg...after the second I was out of there in two days...there is no pain like the isolation and helplessness of a friggin hospital...that's really torture...I'm almost healed up for my last go...piece of cake from here on out...

630 FrogMarch  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:28:41am

It's the SPIDER HOLE Anniversary.


Poor democrats. /they wanted to keep on bitching about him like they did throughout the 1990's.

631 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:29:07am

re: #593 Geepers

Good morning Geepers, did not see you there.

How you doing?

632 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:29:18am

re: #613 Miss Trixie


Walter - that's funny. Do your theatre folks read LGF?

What. Theatre folks, actors and arty people and tech people. Come on, no they don't read LGF, I just recount the comments without going into details about what the blog is.

Hell, one of the actress' in this show, who I've know for 12 years, who is a darling, I love her to no end, called me the theatre's "pet conservative" at a meeting last month.

633 Throbert McGee  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:29:32am

re: #545 Miss Trixie

A frozen day in the Valley, around 8 below but we've plenty of sinshine to cheer me up.

Ooooh, that's my favorite kind of weather!

634 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:29:46am

Morning Lizards, great John Wayne quote, is that from a movie?

Real Rancher

635 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:29:48am

For those that don't know peri peri and like hot, spicy and tasty stuff...peri peri
Taste in Ny

636 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:30:56am

Is this the SMHOT?


Saturday Morning Hung Over Thread?

637 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:31:35am

re: #632 Walter L. Newton

What. Theatre folks, actors and arty people and tech people. Come on, no they don't read LGF, I just recount the comments without going into details about what the blog is.

Hell, one of the actress' in this show, who I've know for 12 years, who is a darling, I love her to no end, called me the theatre's "pet conservative" at a meeting last month.

Sigh... Sadly that reminds me of my college years, where as a performing arts student I was the lone conservative and a minority as a straight male...

638 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:32:05am

re: #630 FrogMarch

It's the SPIDER HOLE Anniversary.


Poor democrats. /they wanted to keep on bitching about him like they did throughout the 1990's.

It is a shame Saddam and his two sons are not here today to celebrate the joyous anniversary.

639 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:32:09am

re: #636 JCM

Is this the SMHOT?


Saturday Morning Hung Over Thread?

ROTFLMAO... Yes, why YES IT IS... ;p

640 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:32:56am

Good Morning Lizards..
I'm not falling for the magic chicken again Dorian! :)

641 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:33:01am

Due to a couple of rulings yesterday by the state canvassing board, I suggest everybody grid your loins, because a Franken victory over Coleman could very well happen.

- First, the board voted to count 133 missing ballots from a Minneapolis precinct.

- Second, improperly rejected absentee ballots can be counted as part of the statewide recount.

More good news for Franken:

Franken also received unexpected good news when Deputy Secretary of State Jim Gelbmann dropped a mini-bombshell, telling the board that in overwhelmingly Democratic Duluth — which has not officially tallied rejected absentees — about 40 percent of that city's 319 rejected absentee ballots were mistakenly rejected.

642 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:33:20am

re: #615 realwest

Good morning to you! Uh, "I've taken a boatload of vicodin over the last 5 weeks so I get what youre sayin"
are ya still floating in that boat?! That vicodin is some nasty stuff and believe me, I'm taking HUGE quantities of nasty drugs, so I hope you're off it now!

and to you as well...vicodin works really well for me...I'm the type that just gobbles that stuff if the pain is severe enough and it has been...it's never bothered my digestive system tho...in overdose quantities it ruins my sleep so I cut back as soon as I can...I'm down to only a few a day now and my liver enzymes are normal...I'm cool...and thanks...I often wonder about you myself...

643 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:33:51am

re: #601 yma o hyd
Hello {yma} - gotta say that that is really BAD NEWS for the Taliban - the SAS and the SBS are the oldest "Special Forces" operational units in "modern" military warfare. Indeed, JFK was so impressed with the SAS that he formed the US Army's Special Forces (the "Green Berets") and patterned them somewhat the way GB did with the SAS. Some truly bad ass mofo's - and I say that with the highest degree of respect possible!
And good afternoon to you!

644 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:34:29am

re: #637 doriangrey

Sigh... Sadly that reminds me of my college years, where as a performing arts student I was the lone conservative and a minority as a straight male...

But that leaves the mating field wide open for you. I've been doing regional theatre on a part time (and now full time) basis since I was 14 (I'll be 56 in a couple of weeks), and I find there is less gay woman in theatre business than gay men.

I grew up with sexual diversity since I was so involved with the arts, that it never bothered me for any reason, and still doesn't.

645 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:34:30am

re: #603 3 wood

He don't give a rat's ass for nobody but himself.

He will take whatever is coming and go grinning. I'm sure he's got dough stashed where they can't find it.


You don't wan't to know what we call "the bank" in prison, LOL.

Real Rancher

646 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:35:28am

re: #640 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards..
I'm not falling for the magic chicken again Dorian! :)

Is that where the recipe magically turns rat into chicken?

647 Lincolntf  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:35:45am

re: #575 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Around the time Gump came out there was a story about the "smiley-face" logo. Apparently, Mr. Ball designed it for State Mutual Ins. Co. for the employees to wear during some "down times" at the Company. He got paid a total of like $150 and never had the rights to it. Within 10 years it was among the most recognizable symbols in the country (world?). Poor bugger.

648 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:36:07am

re: #604 Erik The Red
No regrets at all for anything you've done in your life? Really? Whoa, I be impressed.
I've done some things which I've regretted - lived with the consequences of 'em - but still regretted some things.

649 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:36:32am

Walter

"Pet Conservative?"

Yeesh.

re: #633 Throbert McGee

Ooooh, that's my favorite kind of weather!

Ha! I shoulda known ... :P

650 FrogMarch  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:36:47am

re: #638 Desert Dog

It is a shame Saddam and his two sons are not here today to celebrate the joyous anniversary.

Yes - such a fine, tender loving family. The entire 1990's they had us fooled about the WMD. /Turns out - the Saddam family was as pure as the wind driven snow.

651 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:37:27am

re: #641 gregg

If that pile of human debris manages to sneak in, it will be a bad day. The thought of that asshole standing up there getting sworn in with that big sh*t-eating grin on his face makes me want to puke. Al Franken is not fit to be the Dog Catcher of Duluth, let alone Senator...I HATE HIM

They should redo that election...it stinks so bad I can smell it here all the way in AZ

652 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:38:15am

Morning 3 wood.

I'm doing fine thanks.

Still diggin' outta that hole. Couple of more feet and I'll be able to see ground level. ;-)

653 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:38:26am

re: #647 Lincolntf

Around the time Gump came out there was a story about the "smiley-face" logo. Apparently, Mr. Ball designed it for State Mutual Ins. Co. for the employees to wear during some "down times" at the Company. He got paid a total of like $150 and never had the rights to it. Within 10 years it was among the most recognizable symbols in the country (world?). Poor bugger.

When I was in high school I drew a smiley face... And put a bullet hole in the middle of it's forehead... It was an art project... Seems to have caught on... ;O

654 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:38:28am

re: #640 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards..
I'm not falling for the magic chicken again Dorian! :)

Morning Hoosier.

I don't blame you - YIKES!

655 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:38:48am

This might quiet things down a bit...

A magnitude 5.0 earthquake has occurred GREECE at:
38.77N 22.61E Depth 2km 13/12/2008 at 08:27:18 (Universal Time)
Cant post a link, this is an alert i got via email.

656 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:38:50am

re: #642 albusteve

and to you as well...vicodin works really well for me...I'm the type that just gobbles that stuff if the pain is severe enough and it has been...it's never bothered my digestive system tho...in overdose quantities it ruins my sleep so I cut back as soon as I can...I'm down to only a few a day now and my liver enzymes are normal...I'm cool...and thanks...I often wonder about you myself...

And that's normal contraindications for hydrocodone. In recommended doses, it acts as a depressant, if you have too much of it in your system, it will act like a stimulant, a lot like speed, and it can keep you awake for days. That can be effective if you have some sort of large, pressing project you need to finish.

657 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:39:09am

re: #646 JCM

Is that where the recipe magically turns rat into chicken?

Yup...

658 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:39:10am

re: #623 newsjunkie_ky

from an email:

My how time flies.

BIRTHDAY REMINDER:
This week we celebrate a special birthday!

Monica Lewinsky turns 35.

Can you believe it? It seems like only yesterday she was crawling around the White House, on her hands and knees, putting everything in her mouth.

They grow up so fast, don't they?


OMG! I just exhaled coffee through my nose...and I thought that you could only do that with milk!

659 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:39:45am

re: #654 Miss Trixie

Morning Hoosier.

I don't blame you - YIKES!

Good Morning Trixie..Chilly morning today...Where is Al gore when you need him?

660 FrogMarch  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:39:46am

re: #641 gregg

The dems will steal it. The move will backfire on them, eventually. Senator joker will only make our congress more unpopular.

661 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:40:05am

re: #641 gregg

Due to a couple of rulings yesterday by the state canvassing board, I suggest everybody grid your loins, because a Franken victory over Coleman could very well happen.

- First, the board voted to count 133 missing ballots from a Minneapolis precinct.

- Second, improperly rejected absentee ballots can be counted as part of the statewide recount.

More good news for Franken:

Franken also received unexpected good news when Deputy Secretary of State Jim Gelbmann dropped a mini-bombshell, telling the board that in overwhelmingly Democratic Duluth — which has not officially tallied rejected absentees — about 40 percent of that city's 319 rejected absentee ballots were mistakenly rejected.

How to steal an election in front of the whole world.
Cantwell / Gorton WA 2000*.
Gregoire / Rossi WA 2004.
Franken / Coleman MN 2008.

* We didn't recognize the pattern in that one until the '04 race.

662 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:40:05am

re: #655 Wishing

This might quiet things down a bit...

A magnitude 5.0 earthquake has occurred GREECE at:
38.77N 22.61E Depth 2km 13/12/2008 at 08:27:18 (Universal Time)
Cant post a link, this is an alert i got via email.

The Gods up on Mt. Olympus just farted to show they are not pleased with the Idiotic Commie Protesters, that's all

663 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:40:24am

re: #655 Wishing

This might quiet things down a bit...

A magnitude 5.0 earthquake has occurred GREECE at:
38.77N 22.61E Depth 2km 13/12/2008 at 08:27:18 (Universal Time)
Cant post a link, this is an alert i got via email.

Not likely... Muslim Youths rioting in Greece will mostly likely see this as a sign from Allah that they are right to riot...

664 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:40:47am

re: #653 doriangrey

When I was in high school I drew a smiley face... And put a bullet hole in the middle of it's forehead... It was an art project... Seems to have caught on... ;O

for some reason I think that's funny...'Piss Smiley' or whatever

665 BlueCanuck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:40:49am

Well time to go. Christmas party/lunch I have to get to. Stay scaly all, and I will see later down the road.

666 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:40:52am

re: #610 vxbush

Yes, and they are seeing commercials for drug enhancements during primetime TV for Cialis, Viagra, etc. Our standards for what goes on TV during prime time has slipped so far I fear what will be considered "normal" for TV in five more years.

When I was in 8th grade I was 14 and my hormones were on overdrive.
I can assure you neither I nor any of my horny buddies had any problem with erectile dysfunction.
And I doubt these kids would be interested in having sexual intercourse in a crowded theatre - at least in my day (in the mid-60's) it would've been much more likely to be a quick feel or a makeout.
BTW, I vote to censor the disgusting female sanitary napkin commercials. They are an outright assault on male sensibilities.

667 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:40:59am

Here is a link on the EQ, but too far from any major cities to have much effect.
Link

668 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:41:01am

re: #649 Miss Trixie

Walter

"Pet Conservative?"

Yeesh.

Ha! I shoulda known ... :P

She loves me, it's all said in good fun.

I love frigid weather myself. Nothing more comfortable than being inside, warm, while the world outside freezes around you. Get cuddle weather.

669 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:41:08am

re: #658 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

OMG! I just exhaled coffee through my nose...and I thought that you could only do that with milk!

Meh... Wait till you do it with Tequila... ;p

670 Lincolntf  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:41:13am

re: #658 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

It's funny how someone can be so internationally "famous" for a couple years and then completely disappear from the public consciousness. I don't think I'd even recognize her on the street nowadays.

671 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:41:26am

re: #658 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

OMG! I just exhaled coffee through my nose...and I thought that you could only do that with milk!

We lizard's must lose about 50 keyboards a week...:)

672 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:41:29am

re: #665 BlueCanuck

Well time to go. Christmas party/lunch I have to get to. Stay scaly all, and I will see later down the road.

Have fun up there...don't forget to check the batteries in your electric underwear if you are venturing outside!

673 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:41:35am

re: #647 Lincolntf

Around the time Gump came out there was a story about the "smiley-face" logo. Apparently, Mr. Ball designed it for State Mutual Ins. Co. for the employees to wear during some "down times" at the Company. He got paid a total of like $150 and never had the rights to it. Within 10 years it was among the most recognizable symbols in the country (world?). Poor bugger.


Same thing for the person that came up with the I heart NY...not copyrighted, so now the I heart (insert whatever here) can be used.

Stupid, stupid, stupid. If I ever come up with anything even remotely clever i'm copyrighting the sucker. You never know.

674 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:42:00am

re: #606 Wishing
Huh, you mean for Windows Mail? Encryption isn't what I was specifically warned about - it's supposedly a "shaky platform" (whatever the hell that means) and I'm only repeating what two different Geek Squad guys told me about Windows Mail - that doesn't mean they are right.
But DAMNIT, I LIKED my old TotalAccess 2005! And I want it back, NOW!
Sorta like this: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

675 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:42:11am

re: #660 FrogMarch

The dems will steal it. The move will backfire on them, eventually. Senator joker will only make our congress more unpopular.

Not here if my new avatar is correct. :)

676 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:42:17am

re: #659 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Trixie..Chilly morning today...Where is Al gore when you need him?


He's like a duraflame log. Hard, fake and full of hot air.

677 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:42:18am

re: #648 realwest

No regrets at all for anything you've done in your life? Really? Whoa, I be impressed.
I've done some things which I've regretted - lived with the consequences of 'em - but still regretted some things.

Can not regret. Chalk the mistakes up and never make them again. Never regret. That is negative.

678 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:42:51am

re: #663 doriangrey

Not likely... Muslim Youths rioting in Greece will mostly likely see this as a sign from Allah that they are right to riot...

Ah, unless I have been reading the news reports wrong, or someone is lying to me, the riots in Greece (and the riots that have spread to some other European nations) have nothing to do with Muslims. These are white anarchists.

679 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:43:10am

re: #655 Wishing

This might quiet things down a bit...

A magnitude 5.0 earthquake has occurred GREECE at:
38.77N 22.61E Depth 2km 13/12/2008 at 08:27:18 (Universal Time)
Cant post a link, this is an alert i got via email.

Magnitude 5.1 - GREECE
2008 December 13 08:27:23 UTC

Magnitude
5.1
Date-Time
Saturday, December 13, 2008 at 08:27:23 UTC
Saturday, December 13, 2008 at 10:27:23 AM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location
38.790°N, 22.579°E
Depth
38.7 km (24.0 miles)
Region
GREECE
Distances
95 km (60 miles) S of Larisa, Greece
95 km (60 miles) NE of Patras, Greece
135 km (85 miles) NW of ATHENS, Greece
180 km (110 miles) ESE of Ioannina, Greece
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 4.8 km (3.0 miles); depth +/- 4.6 km (2.9 miles)
Parameters
NST=129, Nph=129, Dmin=440.1 km, Rmss=0.94 sec, Gp= 40°,
M-type=body magnitude (Mb), Version=Q
Source
USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID
us2008anai

680 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:43:57am

re: #636 JCM

Is this the SMHOT?


Saturday Morning Hung Over Thread?


After two Christmas parties, yes.

Real Rancher

681 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:44:11am

re: #613 Miss Trixie
Hey gorgeous - FIVE BIG ONES - December 13th, 2003!
It is remarkable how tolerant Charles is, isn't it?! LOL!

682 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:44:32am

re: #669 doriangrey

Meh... Wait till you do it with Tequila... ;p


I haven't shot tequila since God heard my plea for mercy and let me survive the Great equila Hangover of 1989.

683 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:44:55am

Whoopsie! I meant to quote Hoosier's Al Gore comment. But it's always nice to talk to FrogMarch. :)

I should start drinking coffee ...

684 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:45:17am

re: #678 Walter L. Newton

Ah, unless I have been reading the news reports wrong, or someone is lying to me, the riots in Greece (and the riots that have spread to some other European nations) have nothing to do with Muslims. These are white anarchists.

Charles posted a thread on it a couple days ago...
Greek Rioting - Unrelated to Islam
WORLD %P% Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:18:27 am PST

685 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:45:40am

re: #670 Lincolntf

It's funny how someone can be so internationally "famous" for a couple years and then completely disappear from the public consciousness. I don't think I'd even recognize her on the street nowadays.


I know I wouldn't, neither would Bill. But I bet Hillary would.

686 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:45:46am

re: #682 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I haven't shot tequila since God heard my plea for mercy and let me survive the Great equila Hangover of 1989.

I had one of those and begged G-D to kill me? Since I am still here, What am I to make of that?

687 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:45:58am

re: #623 newsjunkie_ky
Hi ya {news} hope you're well today and have checked ALL your e-mails from today, not just that one (funny though it is!)!

688 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:46:03am

re: #656 Walter L. Newton

And that's normal contraindications for hydrocodone. In recommended doses, it acts as a depressant, if you have too much of it in your system, it will act like a stimulant, a lot like speed, and it can keep you awake for days. That can be effective if you have some sort of large, pressing project you need to finish.

I have a wayward method for dealing with pain...severe pain that is...drugs, alcohol, and whatever else I can get my hands on...to hell with it...but I've always kept close track of my liver and kidney function...I'm a terrible patient in that regard...tearing off pumps and bandages...cutting out stiches...used to drive my nurse wife frantic...

689 FrogMarch  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:46:20am

re: #675 Miss Trixie

Not here if my new avatar is correct. :)

These democrat and their corrupt nature will stop at nothing. I hate predicting the worse, but we can all see they are clearly mining votes for Franken-Joker.


Cute cold puppers. I remember the snow blower out-the-ass-man. What happened to him? He was hilarious.

690 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:46:49am

re: #655 Wishing

This might quiet things down a bit...

A magnitude 5.0 earthquake has occurred GREECE at:
38.77N 22.61E Depth 2km 13/12/2008 at 08:27:18 (Universal Time)
Cant post a link, this is an alert i got via email.

Maybe that will calm down the greek youth..Must have pissed off one of their gods.. You got to hand it to the greeks.. At least one of their gods is a smoking hot girl that loves sex. Ah the ancient's Brittany Spears...

691 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:47:07am

re: #680 Rancher

After two Christmas parties, yes.

Real Rancher

The Dustyvet sure hangover cure...:)

Image: 2002334418048586433_rs.jpg

692 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:47:13am

re: #627 wahabicorridor
Thanks wahabi ! y'all have a great one too!

693 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:47:15am

re: #682 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I haven't shot tequila since God heard my plea for mercy and let me survive the Great equila Hangover of 1989.

Everyone who drinks has a tequila story...I still have flash backs to the Mescal shots in college and ensuing prayers to the porcelain gods afterwards...I still cannot drink that stuff unless is it is safely concealed in a Margarita

694 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:47:56am

re: #686 Nevergiveup

I had one of those and begged G-D to kill me? Since I am still here, What am I to make of that?


He didn't hear you? Thankfully.

I promised God that if he let me live I'd neve shoot tequila again. It was months before I could bring myself to drink a margeurita, but I haven't shot Tequila since.

695 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:48:10am

re: #681 realwest

Hey gorgeous - FIVE BIG ONES - December 13th, 2003!
It is remarkable how tolerant Charles is, isn't it?! LOL!

Hon, you crack me up. :D I've been here way before registration was available and I registered on June 16, 2004. Right now, 8959 comments.

Do you remember the fun before registration? Talk about wild and wooley!

8960 now. :D

696 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:49:32am

re: #695 Miss Trixie

Hon, you crack me up. :D I've been here way before registration was available and I registered on June 16, 2004. Right now, 8959 comments.

Do you remember the fun before registration? Talk about wild and wooley!

8960 now. :D

I still remember the thrill that I got when I was able to finally register! Ahhh. Good times. Good times!

697 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:49:39am

re: #694 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

He didn't hear you? Thankfully.

I promised God that if he let me live I'd neve shoot tequila again. It was months before I could bring myself to drink a margeurita, but I haven't shot Tequila since.

you abusers!
/

698 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:49:58am

re: #689 FrogMarch

These democrat and their corrupt nature will stop at nothing. I hate predicting the worse, but we can all see they are clearly mining votes for Franken-Joker.


Cute cold puppers. I remember the snow blower out-the-ass-man. What happened to him? He was hilarious.

I bring him out whenever we're spanked with a monster sneax-storm. He's hysterical. :D

699 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:49:58am

re: #693 Desert Dog

Everyone who drinks has a tequila story...I still have flash backs to the Mescal shots in college and ensuing prayers to the porcelain gods afterwards...I still cannot drink that stuff unless is it is safely concealed in a Margarita

How come none of the stories end well? It's always waking up in the wrong clothes with a stolen cop car in the garage...

700 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:50:05am

re: #641 gregg
So the Dems are gonna steal another election - must be so proud to be a Minnesotan and have Al Franken representing you in the Senate.
Motherfuckers.

701 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:50:34am

re: #643 realwest

Hello {yma} - gotta say that that is really BAD NEWS for the Taliban - the SAS and the SBS are the oldest "Special Forces" operational units in "modern" military warfare. Indeed, JFK was so impressed with the SAS that he formed the US Army's Special Forces (the "Green Berets") and patterned them somewhat the way GB did with the SAS. Some truly bad ass mofo's - and I say that with the highest degree of respect possible!
And good afternoon to you!

Hiya, {rw}!
Yeah, its a pretty amazing outfit - occasionally, when one's gotta drive across the Brecon Beacons here in Wales, to go someplace, one can see the one or other trudging over the vast empty range, on the horizon ...

Nobody speaks about them - we all know where they're based, but, as I say, not a peep to anybody.

Yeah, Taliban are in for a very torrid time!

702 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:50:34am

Know Your Hangover

One-star hangover

* No pain. No real feeling of illness. Your sleep last night was a mere disco nap, which is giving you a whole lot of misplaced energy. Be glad that you are able to function relatively well. However, you are still parched. You can drink 10 soft drinks and still feel this way. Even vegetarians are craving a cheeseburger and a side of fries.

Two-star hangover

** No pain. Something is definitely amiss. You may look okay but you have the attention span and mental capacity of a stapler. The coffee you chug to try and remain focused is only exacerbating your rumbling gut, which is craving a fresh and fruity pancake breakfast. Last night has wreaked havoc on your bowels and even though you have a nice demeanor about the office, you are costing your employer valuable money because all you really can handle is surfing the Internet and writing junk e-mails.

Three-star hangover

*** Slight headache. Stomach feels crappy. You are definitely a space shot and so not productive. Anytime a girl/guy walks by, you gag because her/his perfume/BO reminds you of the random gin shots you did with your alcoholic friends after the bouncer kicked you out at 3:45am. Life would be better right now if you were in your bed with a dozen donuts and a litre of Coke watching Good Morning Australia with crater face. You've had four cups of coffee, a jug of water, two sausage rolls and a litre of Diet Coke - yet you haven't peed once.

Four-star hangover

*** Life sucks. Your head is throbbing and you can't speak too quickly or else you might puke. Your boss has already lambasted you for being late and has given you a lecture for reeking of booze. You wore nice clothes, but that can't hide the fact that you missed an oh-so crucial spot shaving, (girls, it looks like you put your make-up on while riding the bumper cars), your teeth are brown, your eyes look like one big vein and your hair style makes you look like a reject from the class picture of Revere High, '76. You would walk over your mother for one or all of the following:
1. The clock to strike 6pm.
2. The entire appetiser list from Smorgy's.
3. A time machine so you could go back and NOT have gone out the night before.

Five-tar hangover (aka Dante's 4th Circle of Hell).

*** You have a second heartbeat in your head which is actually annoying the employee who sits in the next cube. Vodka vapor is seeping out of every pore and making you dizzy. You still have toothpaste crust in the corners of your mouth from brushing your teeth. Your body has lost the ability to generate saliva, so your tongue is suffocating you. You'd cry, but that would take the last of the moisture left in your body. Death seems pretty good right now. Your boss doesn't even get mad at you and your co-workers think that your dog just died because you look so pathetic. You should have called in sick because, let's face it, all you can manage to do is bitch about your state - which is a mystery to you because you definitely don't remember who you were with, where you were and what you drank. The only thing you can do is pass out. It's when you wake up a few hours later with a lesser-star hangover that you eat a large pizza, a ham and cheese omelette and a batch of Rice Krispie treats.

703 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:51:36am

re: #700 realwest

So the Dems are gonna steal another election - must be so proud to be a Minnesotan and have Al Franken representing you in the Senate.
Motherfuckers.


Awww fuuuck. I can't stand that ashole and I don't even live in MN.

704 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:51:38am

re: #691 Dustyvet

The Dustyvet sure hangover cure...:)

[Link: aycu17.webshots.com...]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*wipes away tears*

*snicker*
*snort*

Haha.

Hahahaha.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh! My sides!

705 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:52:48am

re: #688 albusteve

I have a wayward method for dealing with pain...severe pain that is...drugs, alcohol, and whatever else I can get my hands on...to hell with it...but I've always kept close track of my liver and kidney function...I'm a terrible patient in that regard...tearing off pumps and bandages...cutting out stiches...used to drive my nurse wife frantic...

Yea, that's not really good practice. My ex-wife was also a nurse, works for the City of Denver, county hospital, that's where my health care is since I am still on her policy (long story).

Anyway, alcohol (take it from a past expert) puts much more strain on the system then pain killers. A lot of the effects of alcohol can actually increase the pain depending on where the pain is.

But you probably already know all this from you nurse wife.

I can't remember a pain that I couldn't deal with, and I have been cut open from navel to breastbone, internal organs laying on the table, so, I've had my share of painful medical procedure. But even after that incident, I was up and walking in 24 hours. And I was on no more pain relief drugs than normal.

706 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:52:54am

re: #702 Dustyvet

LMOA
that was great

707 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:53:05am

re: #651 Desert Dog

If that pile of human debris manages to sneak in, it will be a bad day. The thought of that asshole standing up there getting sworn in with that big sh*t-eating grin on his face makes me want to puke. Al Franken is not fit to be the Dog Catcher of Duluth, let alone Senator...I HATE HIM

They should redo that election...it stinks so bad I can smell it here all the way in AZ

this is such a travesty, i can't even talk abt. it anymore.
coleman needs to get the ct. involved and shut these obnoxious fckers down.
enough of this vulgar romping around by these thieves.
franken is such a grating pos. no civility.
he has all the characteristics of a 3rd world despot. of course a bully because he lives here.
(mugabe, tho would reduce him to tears w/ a frown.)

708 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:53:12am

re: #678 Walter L. Newton

Ah, unless I have been reading the news reports wrong, or someone is lying to me, the riots in Greece (and the riots that have spread to some other European nations) have nothing to do with Muslims. These are white anarchists.

I wouldn't bet on that Walter... Remember Mumbia? Those guy;s were according to the media... Gunmen or militants... Yea right. The media is scared shitless of identifying Muslims as violent terrorists.

709 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:54:05am

re: #702 Dustyvet

Too Funny!

I have 1's these days if I drink...getting too old for the the higher ones

710 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:54:46am

re: #671 Dustyvet

re: #671 Dustyvet

re: #676 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Ah-HA...The true souce of global warming!

711 itellu3times  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:54:50am

Morning, lizardonia!

Hey, reading this AM about this Madoff deal ... suddenly it looks very different to me. The idiot has been covering his investors' *losses* during this recent market crash. And that, as Emily Litella would say, is very different. Never mind!

712 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:54:58am

re: #675 Miss Trixie
AH HA HA! LOVE that new avatar - Lil Miss is sooo cute!

713 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:55:24am

re: #695 Miss Trixie

...I registered on June 16, 2004.

Karma, I registered the day before. What's your sign?

714 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:57:50am

Well, I'm outa here for a while. I have houseowrk and a 13 yo daughter who is reluctant to help...looks like I'm gonna have to do the Drill Sgt thing this morning.

715 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:58:37am

re: #695 Miss Trixie
Well I'm glad I crack you up, gorgeous - when you don't have looks, youth or money, ya gotta dazzle 'em with footwork! LOL!
And How long before registration didja get here - do you remember?

716 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:58:38am

A little more information this morning.

At least 1 dead in Oregon bank explosion

A bomb exploded inside a bank here late Friday afternoon, killing a police officer who arrived to check on a suspicious object and seriously injuring two others.

A spokesman for the Oregon State Police, Lt. Gregg Hastings, said a Woodburn police officer died. He did not identify him.

He also said the blast seriously injured the Woodburn police chief and a bomb technician with the Oregon State Police.

The police chief, Scott Russell, was in surgery at Oregon Health & Science University Hospital in Portland late Friday, said a hospital spokeswoman. Hastings said Russell was in stable condition.


Odd one, little info.

717 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:58:45am

re: #708 doriangrey

I wouldn't bet on that Walter... Remember Mumbia? Those guy;s were according to the media... Gunmen or militants... Yea right. The media is scared shitless of identifying Muslims as violent terrorists.

Dorian, Charles posted an article on this site. All the reports have indicated that these are anarchists. The government of Greece (and some other countries) knows who these groups are, they have been trouble many times before.

I don't know why you keep insisting that they are Muslims. Do you have any links to that?

I not for holding back on calling a Muslim a radical Muslim, when it applies, but I'm sorry, you are wrong here.

Please prove me otherwise.

718 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:58:48am

Signs you have a hangover

You're convinced that chirping birds are Satan's pets.

Trying to gain control of the situation, you continue to tell your room to "stay still."

Looking at yourself in the mirror induces the same reaction as chugging a glass of fresh paint.

You'd rather have a pencil jammed up your nose than be exposed to sunlight.

You set aside an entire morning to spend some quality time with your toilet.

You replace the traditional praying on your knees with the more feasible praying in a fetal position.

The bathroom reminds you of a carnival barker shouting, "Step right up and give it whirl!"

All day long your motto is, "Never again."

You could purchase a new bike just by recycling the bottles around your bed.

Your natural response to "Good morning," is "Shut up!"

719 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:58:56am

re: #702 Dustyvet

Know Your Hangover

One-star hangover

* No pain. No real feeling of illness. Your sleep last night was a mere disco nap, which is giving you a whole lot of misplaced energy. Be glad that you are able to function relatively well. However, you are still parched. You can drink 10 soft drinks and still feel this way. Even vegetarians are craving a cheeseburger and a side of fries.

Two-star hangover

** No pain. Something is definitely amiss. You may look okay but you have the attention span and mental capacity of a stapler. The coffee you chug to try and remain focused is only exacerbating your rumbling gut, which is craving a fresh and fruity pancake breakfast. Last night has wreaked havoc on your bowels and even though you have a nice demeanor about the office, you are costing your employer valuable money because all you really can handle is surfing the Internet and writing junk e-mails.

Three-star hangover

*** Slight headache. Stomach feels crappy. You are definitely a space shot and so not productive. Anytime a girl/guy walks by, you gag because her/his perfume/BO reminds you of the random gin shots you did with your alcoholic friends after the bouncer kicked you out at 3:45am. Life would be better right now if you were in your bed with a dozen donuts and a litre of Coke watching Good Morning Australia with crater face. You've had four cups of coffee, a jug of water, two sausage rolls and a litre of Diet Coke - yet you haven't peed once.

Four-star hangover

*** Life sucks. Your head is throbbing and you can't speak too quickly or else you might puke. Your boss has already lambasted you for being late and has given you a lecture for reeking of booze. You wore nice clothes, but that can't hide the fact that you missed an oh-so crucial spot shaving, (girls, it looks like you put your make-up on while riding the bumper cars), your teeth are brown, your eyes look like one big vein and your hair style makes you look like a reject from the class picture of Revere High, '76. You would walk over your mother for one or all of the following:
1. The clock to strike 6pm.
2. The entire appetiser list from Smorgy's.
3. A time machine so you could go back and NOT have gone out the night before.

Five-tar hangover (aka Dante's 4th Circle of Hell).

*** You have a second heartbeat in your head which is actually annoying the employee who sits in the next cube. Vodka vapor is seeping out of every pore and making you dizzy. You still have toothpaste crust in the corners of your mouth from brushing your teeth. Your body has lost the ability to generate saliva, so your tongue is suffocating you. You'd cry, but that would take the last of the moisture left in your body. Death seems pretty good right now. Your boss doesn't even get mad at you and your co-workers think that your dog just died because you look so pathetic. You should have called in sick because, let's face it, all you can manage to do is bitch about your state - which is a mystery to you because you definitely don't remember who you were with, where you were and what you drank. The only thing you can do is pass out. It's when you wake up a few hours later with a lesser-star hangover that you eat a large pizza, a ham and cheese omelette and a batch of Rice Krispie treats.

You forgot the six-star hangover, the one after Pernod/Ouzo sessions ...
Wake up feeling like death warmed over - raging thirst, drink a pint of water - and you're drunk again, just like that ...
Takes a couple of days to get back to that one-star hangover ...

720 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:58:59am

re: #678 Walter L. Newton

Ah, unless I have been reading the news reports wrong, or someone is lying to me, the riots in Greece (and the riots that have spread to some other European nations) have nothing to do with Muslims. These are white anarchists.

Ambrose Evans Pritchard has an interesting view: Greek fighting: the eurozone's weakest link starts to crack:

I am a little surpised that the riot phase of this long politico-economic drama known as EMU has kicked off so soon, and that it has done so first in Greece where the post-bubble hangover has barely begun.

The crisis is much further advanced in Spain, which is a year or two ahead of Greece in the crisis cycle.
...
The picture is going to get very ugly as Europe slides deeper into recession next year. The IMF expects Spain's unemployment to reach 15pc. Immigrants are already being paid to leave the country. There will be riots in Spain too (there have been street skirmishes in Barcelona).

721 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:59:17am

re: #713 Walter L. Newton

Karma, I registered the day before. What's your sign?

No Parking

:P

Soft Shoulders

:P

No Passing

:P

:D

722 Lincolntf  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:59:32am

re: #712 realwest

Do you ever listen to a radio show called "Carolina Journal"? It's on at noon on Saturdays up here in W-S, but it's obviously taped so it could be on at any time down near Charlotte. It's interesting. Very understated, no wingnuts (from either side of the aisle), plenty of real discussions with authors, journalists, etc. It's put out by the John Locke Foundation.
Anyway, if you ever hear of it, you might want to tune in.

723 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:59:46am

Look for the Fed's to cut the discount rate by at least 0.50% next week.


MARKET SNAPSHOT
Auto bailout likely to steal limelight from Fed


NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Efforts to prop up the ailing U.S. auto industry, along with economic data that may provide fresh clues about the depth and duration of the recession, could outweigh investor interest next week in the Federal Reserve's interest-rate decision.

The possibility that a collapse of the Big Three automakers, General Motors Corp. Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler could plunge the economy deeper into recession rattled markets last week.

"We're probably going to limp through next week as Washington tries to solve the auto bailout question," said Hugh Johnson, Chairman of Johnson Illington Advisors. "There will be a lot of attention on what the Fed does and what it says, but it won't be as important as what happens with the bailout."

The market is seeing the Federal spending spree now as a good thing and they will worry about inflation later.

Besides the auto bailout, investors have been hopeful that big infrastructure spending by the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama and by other governments around the world will help shore up economies and markets.

"With fiscal stimulus all the rage around the world, it's no surprise that equity investors have bid up related industries," said Robert Kavcic, an analyst at BMO Capital Markets, in a note. "Among the top performers in the S&P 500 over the past month have been engineering, building products and construction materials, all up more than 20%."
Fed and OPEC cuts

The Federal Reserve is again widely expected to cut interest rates by another 50 basis points on Tuesday, bringing its key Fed funds rate down to 0.5%.

Look for mortgage rates to drop even futher.

724 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:59:49am

Report: Germany planning fresh Iran sanctions
Der Spigel reports German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier pushing to draft series of new sanctions with agreement of other world powers in hopes of giving Obama administration negotiating leverage with Tehran upon assuming office

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

So before this Germany and all the other EU "powers" were just trying to fuck the Bush Administration? Is that what this means?

725 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 7:59:54am

re: #715 realwest

Well I'm glad I crack you up, gorgeous - when you don't have looks, youth or money, ya gotta dazzle 'em with footwork! LOL! And How long before registration didja get here - do you remember?

I try to dazzle the woman with my footwork all the time. I usually end up with my foot in my mouth.

726 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:00:33am

re: #705 Walter L. Newton

Yea, that's not really good practice. My ex-wife was also a nurse, works for the City of Denver, county hospital, that's where my health care is since I am still on her policy (long story).

Anyway, alcohol (take it from a past expert) puts much more strain on the system then pain killers. A lot of the effects of alcohol can actually increase the pain depending on where the pain is.

But you probably already know all this from you nurse wife.

I can't remember a pain that I couldn't deal with, and I have been cut open from navel to breastbone, internal organs laying on the table, so, I've had my share of painful medical procedure. But even after that incident, I was up and walking in 24 hours. And I was on no more pain relief drugs than normal.

I went thru nursing school myself...never practiced...then rad tech as well...I know the potential harm...getting chopped up is a bitch and I get all self absorbed when my comfort level tanks to a certain point...after that I'm pretty much unstoppable...just dumb luck...so far

727 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:01:12am

re: #721 Miss Trixie

No Parking

:P

Soft Shoulders

:P

No Passing

:P

:D

Caution:
Curves Ahead

And me with no brakes...
;-P

728 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:01:28am

re: #715 realwest

Well I'm glad I crack you up, gorgeous - when you don't have looks, youth or money, ya gotta dazzle 'em with footwork! LOL!
And How long before registration didja get here - do you remember?

Such a flirt! *mwah* I think it was around February 2001 as I seem to recall that it was the VA muslim jihadis compound story that brought me to LGF.

729 Ben Hur  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:02:13am

Carter just met with Assad and had a press conference.

Carter is apparently going to meet with the head of SAMAH in Syria, Mashaal.

They say about Shalit, but I'm pretty sure he would meet with him regardless.

So sayeth Israel Army Radio.

730 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:02:20am

re: #727 JCM

Caution:
Curves Ahead

And me with no brakes...
;-P

Caution: Soft Shoulder.

:P

731 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:02:39am

re: #721 Miss Trixie

No Parking

:P

Soft Shoulders

:P

No Passing

:P

:D

Walter fainted.. I had to help him back up...

732 Ben Hur  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:03:24am

Signs you are sober:

You know Jimmy Carter is Satan's pet.

733 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:03:37am

re: #710 Pietr

Re the #671 Dustyvet

Guess I was going to reply that most keyboards can be unplugged and rinsed clean, drained, and blown dry (no heat). not sure why I wasn't taken to the comment-gremlins like to hang around me, but usually are afraid to screw around; I'm a retired tech.

734 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:03:47am

JCM

LOL!

735 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:04:10am

re: #702 Dustyvet
ROTFLAMO! I don't drink anything alcoholic anymore, but I do remember the "good"(?) old days and that was both hilarious and spot on! Didja write that yourself?!

736 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:04:25am

Beilin: Mideast a top priority for Obama
Former Meretz chairman meets with senior officials at US president-elect's office, tells Ynet new American administration to advance peace between Israel, Palestinians and Syrians
Yitzhak Benhorin

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Some people never learn. How many times is this smuck gonna keep buying the Brooklyn Bridge?

737 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:04:45am

A little morning music from Fred Phelps...
Santa Claus Will Take You To Hell

738 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:05:05am

re: #735 realwest

ROTFLAMO! I don't drink anything alcoholic anymore, but I do remember the "good"(?) old days and that was both hilarious and spot on! Didja write that yourself?!

Alas I'm not the author...:(

739 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:05:06am

re: #731 HoosierHoops

Walter fainted.. I had to help him back up...

LOLOLOL! :D

740 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:05:37am

Retirements are being put on hold:

No time to lose
Golden years tarnished as bear market mauls target-date retirement funds


SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- If you were expecting your target-date retirement funds to keep your nest egg on track, you've been off target this year. Some of these investments have saddled shareholders with stiff losses, and probably no one feels more on edge than investors in their 60s who intend to stop working in a couple of years.
Better make that "intended." Target-date funds geared to a 2010 retirement had lost 27% on average for the year through Dec. 11, according to fund-tracker Lipper Inc. That's painful enough for someone nearing retirement, but investors in the most aggressive of these portfolios have seen one-third or more of their savings evaporate -- stripping the shine off their golden years and possibly forcing them to work longer. Shareholders of more conservative 2010 funds have fared relatively better, down 25% or less.

Once you get within 5 years or your planned retirement age, you should move almost all of your nest egg into fixed income and not be exposed to the stock market volatility.

But that does not help these people now. Bottom line is many people will end up working many more years than they thought they would, and retiring to a lower standard of living than they had planned on.

As I have been saying for some time, true retirement is going to become rarer for the foreseeable future. Most able people will "retire" and do something else at least part time for some income.

741 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:05:45am

At least they're doing something and don't just talk about it:

Indian navy 'captures 23 pirates'

Note the delicate quotation marks the Beeb feels necessary to put around the 'capture 23 pirates' - heh, could be some innocent jihadists fishermen, after all ...

742 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:06:00am

re: #724 Nevergiveup

Report: Germany planning fresh Iran sanctions
Der Spigel reports German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier pushing to draft series of new sanctions with agreement of other world powers in hopes of giving Obama administration negotiating leverage with Tehran upon assuming office

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

So before this Germany and all the other EU "powers" were just trying to fuck the Bush Administration? Is that what this means?

the 'lightworker' is very inspiring. (or maybe they are getting scared.)

743 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:06:01am

re: #739 Miss Trixie

LOLOLOL! :D

Standing by with difib paddles...CLEAR!

744 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:06:39am

re: #731 HoosierHoops

Walter fainted.. I had to help him back up...

No, I'm still here. I was trying to call my girlfriend to make sure plans are still on for tonight.

She's coming to see the Christmas show at the theatre tonight. Disadvantage to that is she has to sit along or with a girlfriend since I'm working in the control booth.

Advantage, here and her girlfriend get 50 dollars worth of free tickets. and later it's OOOGODDDHEEENRRRY.

745 JacksonTn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:06:42am

Cute video for any of you men thinking of getting your wives household items for Christmas ...

[Link: creativity-online.com...]

746 Joan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:07:08am

re: #729 Ben Hur

Carter just met with Assad and had a press conference.

Carter is apparently going to meet with the head of SAMAH in Syria, Mashaal.

They say about Shalit, but I'm pretty sure he would meet with him regardless.

So sayeth Israel Army Radio.

I'm gonna find a really good King James Version curse to use as a tagline whenever Jimmy the Sh*t is mentioned...may the dogs lap his blood like wicked Jezebel. Yeah, that kinda thing.

747 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:07:27am

re: #743 Dustyvet

Standing by with difib paddles...CLEAR!

ROFLMAO!

748 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:08:15am

re: #737 Killgore Trout

A little morning music from Fred Phelps...
Santa Claus Will Take You To Hell

Washington's Gov. drew the line at Freddie getting his display in the Capitol Building.

Will the ACLU go to bat for Freddies' First Amendment rights?

The tangled web we weave when political correctness runs amok.

749 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:08:16am

re: #737 Killgore Trout

A little morning music from Fred Phelps...
Santa Claus Will Take You To Hell

A Inbred Church Choir. I think we could get a network TV sitcom out of that idea. Killgore, do you want to help me write the pilot?

750 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:08:19am

re: #716 JCM
Good morning JCM! Hope you're doing well today!
Yeah, we kicked that story around here last night, early this morning and it was, apparently, an IED set to go off when someone tried to check it out; IIRC it was a bomb squad Tech who was killed.

751 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:08:49am

re: #741 yma o hyd

At least they're doing something and don't just talk about it:

Indian navy 'captures 23 pirates'

Note the delicate quotation marks the Beeb feels necessary to put around the 'capture 23 pirates' - heh, could be some innocent jihadists fishermen, after all ...

Fisherman, eh? What are they lookin' to catch?
I hear the SuperTankers are bitin' off the coast, Ackmed! Grab your pole and a can of worms and lets go!

752 Bobblehead  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:09:01am

re: #729 Ben Hur

Carter just met with Assad and had a press conference.

Carter is apparently going to meet with the head of SAMAH in Syria, Mashaal.

They say about Shalit, but I'm pretty sure he would meet with him regardless.

So sayeth Israel Army Radio.

That man is just plain nuts.

753 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:09:28am

re: #741 yma o hyd

At least they're doing something and don't just talk about it:

Indian navy 'captures 23 pirates'

Note the delicate quotation marks the Beeb feels necessary to put around the 'capture 23 pirates' - heh, could be some innocent jihadists fishermen, after all ...

U S Navy catch and release program:

Image: navy.jpg

754 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:09:56am

re: #752 Bobblehead

That man is just plainhas no nuts.

fixed that for you

755 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:10:39am

re: #750 realwest

Good morning JCM! Hope you're doing well today!
Yeah, we kicked that story around here last night, early this morning and it was, apparently, an IED set to go off when someone tried to check it out; IIRC it was a bomb squad Tech who was killed.

That's sounds right.

What's sketchy is other info, bomb threat called in, but is it a bank robbery, domestic terror. First pass on what I've seen is the police were targeted, call it in, PD arrives first guy checks it out... BOOM!

756 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:10:49am

re: #753 Dustyvet

U S Navy catch and release program:

[Link: www.geocities.com...]

I loves it!

757 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:11:01am

UK's Brown calls for sharing Afghan combat burden

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

"some European NATO members do not allow their forces to operate in the south and east where almost all the fighting takes place and bar them from offensive operations. (Reuters)"

Allies my ass!

758 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:11:15am

re: #749 Walter L. Newton

A Inbred Church Choir. I think we could get a network TV sitcom out of that idea. Killgore, do you want to help me write the pilot?

Do I get to write the music?

759 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:11:22am

re: #721 Miss Trixie
Well, as long as it isn't "STOP" that's all ok, then, eh?
(trying out my Canadidanese with that "eh" bit for Kenneth if he ever shows up!).

760 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:12:06am

re: #758 doriangrey

Do I get to write the music?

Sure, and Rawmuse can do the arrangements.

761 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:12:28am

re: #758 doriangrey

Do I get to write the music?

Buzzsaw does the words..
I'll produce...
/cause i don't know what they really do..

762 Bobblehead  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:12:33am

re: #754 Desert Dog

fixed that for you

He's like all egomaniacs. Thinks the world cannot live without him.

763 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:12:39am

re: #722 Lincolntf
Nope, never heard of it. Course all I usually ever watch is HGTV and NatGeo's the Dog Whisperer.
Is it a PBS thing?

764 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:12:52am

Yankees are spending money alike there's no tomorrow:

Burnett, Yankees agree on 5-year deal

Free agent right-hander A.J. Burnett has reached preliminary agreement on a five-year, $82.5 million contract with the New York Yankees.

Burnett's agreement was confirmed by the office of his agent, Darek Braunecker, The Associated Press reported.

While Yankees general manager Brian Cashman and Braunecker are still negotiating final contract terms, the deal is expected to be complete once Burnett passes a physical.

Burnett, who turns 32 in January, will join CC Sabathia at the top of a revamped starting rotation in New York. The Yankees agreed to terms on a seven-year, $161 million contract with Sabathia earlier this week.

That is $243.5 million is a couple days on 2 pitchers.

Burnett is a solid pitcher, but has only really 2 good pitches, his fastball and slider. He has to get his fastball over in the 92 mph range to be effective. At age 32 he has a lot of innings on his arm, but if he can provide a solid season should give the Yankees one of the top 3 or 4 pitching staffs in the American league.

In addition, many other teams are dropping salary in recognition of the recession a likely dropping revenues.

765 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:13:32am

re: #749 Walter L. Newton

A Inbred Church Choir. I think we could get a network TV sitcom out of that idea. Killgore, do you want to help me write the pilot?


Good idea. It'll be a hit. Maybe we could reunited the cast of Friends for the project.

766 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:13:46am

re: #687 realwest
Hey,
I replied to your email. Are you not getting my replys?
I'm in and out on LGF this AM, trying to clean the house and finish wrapping Christmas presents.

767 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:13:55am

re: #724 Nevergiveup
YES, that's exactly what it means.

768 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:14:33am

re: #766 newsjunkie_ky

Hey,
I replied to your email. Are you not getting my replys?
I'm in and out on LGF this AM, trying to clean the house and finish wrapping Christmas presents.

Hi News! good to see you!

769 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:14:39am

re: #760 Walter L. Newton

Sure, and Rawmuse can do the arrangements.

Muhaw haw haw haw... I feel a heavy metal Wagnerian opera coming on... ;)

770 JacksonTn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:15:02am

I have read on here before of a few Lizards who are taking care of aging parents ...I took care of my mother for five years after a stroke left her unable to care for herself mentally or physically (she passed 2 years ago) ...I was advised by her doctor to go to an Elder Law attorney and set up an irrevocable trust for her ...best advice I have took ...it is hard to get parents to do this but it will make a very uncomfortable situation a little easier down the road ...you would be surprised at how much the government will want to take from them if you do not protect their assets ...

If you are reading this and taking care of an aging parent ...my prayers are with you and give yourself a break sometimes ...it is the about the hardest thing you will ever do in your life ...

771 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:15:02am

re: #725 Walter L. Newton
LOL - well, being as how I'm older than you, I reckon I've had more experience and hardly ever put my foot in my mouth anymore! LOL!

772 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:15:29am

I'm out - things to do, dogdangitall.

773 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:15:33am

re: #767 realwest

YES, that's exactly what it means.

Anybody know of any Coal Company's who sell gift cards?

774 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:15:46am

re: #771 realwest

LOL - well, being as how I'm older than you, I reckon I've had more experience and hardly ever put my foot in my mouth anymore! LOL!

That loss of flexibility has some benefits doesn't it!
/ ;-P

775 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:16:08am

re: #772 Miss Trixie

I'm out - things to do, dogdangitall.

Bye!

{Miss Trixie}

776 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:16:15am

re: #761 HoosierHoops

Buzzsaw does the words..
I'll produce...
/cause i don't know what they really do..

The producer decides how the budget is spent. He also make most of the artistic decisions, like who will write the script, who will write the music, who will write the lyrics, sort of like the manager of a entertainment project.

When you see "executive producer" on a credit, many times that person has done nothing more than invest his or his companies money in a project, and they leave most of the work and decisions up to the producer.

There is actually investment firms that specialize in entertainment ventures.

777 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:16:24am

re: #764 3 wood

Now now children. First of all the Yankees have over 80 million coming off their payroll this year with the disposal of Giambi and the like. So with Sabathia and Burnet the Yankees still have another 40 million to spend and they would still be under last years salaries.

778 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:16:39am

re: #728 Miss Trixie
2001?! Whoa - you're even more of an old LGF geezer than I am! LOL!
{MWAH}

779 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:17:24am

re: #777 Nevergiveup

Now now children. First of all the Yankees have over 80 million coming off their payroll this year with the disposal of Giambi and the like. So with Sabathia and Burnet the Yankees still have another 40 million to spend and they would still be under last years salaries.

And the Red Soxs and/or Rays will still beat them! ha ha ha ha ha

780 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:18:08am

Judge gives courthouse killer life without parole

Georgia judge threw the book at Brian Nichols on Saturday, giving him four consecutive sentences of life without parole for a 2005 shooting rampage that started in an Atlanta courthouse.

We no longer have an effective death penalty.

781 Lincolntf  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:18:24am

re: #763 realwest

No, I don't think so. I believe (I don't know) that the J.Locke Foun. "buys" (or maybe the station pays for it, I have no clue) an hour on various radio stations every week. They claim to be heard from "Currituck to Cherokee", and keep the stories NC-related, but there's a definite Conservative/Libertarian bent to everything they cover. I get a newspaper from them (JLF) once every couple weeks, I'll see if they list the radio stations on which the show can be heard.

782 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:18:33am

re: #769 doriangrey

Muhaw haw haw haw... I feel a heavy metal Wagnerian opera coming on... ;)

Already been done, running now...

[Link: www.nytheatre.com...]

783 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:18:53am

re: #779 Desert Dog

And the Red Soxs and/or Rays will still beat them! ha ha ha ha ha

Time will tell. I think that is why they play the games.

784 FrogMarch  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:20:28am

re: #737 Killgore Trout

A little morning music from Fred Phelps...
Santa Claus Will Take You To Hell

oh for crying out loud.

785 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:21:20am

re: #782 Walter L. Newton

Already been done, running now...

[Link: www.nytheatre.com...]

ROTFLMAO... Oh you have no idea what I mean... Wagnerian only in the sense of dark cynical and dripping with despair... ;p

786 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:21:25am

re: #777 Nevergiveup

So with Sabathia and Burnet the Yankees still have another 40 million to spend and they would still be under last years salaries.

Last year was ridiculously high too.

787 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:21:49am

Bernard L. Madoff, a former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market and a force in Wall Street trading for nearly 50 years, was arrested by federal agents Thursday, a day after his sons turned him in for running what they said their father called "a giant Ponzi scheme."

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

That's loyalty for ya!

788 FrogMarch  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:21:52am

re: #698 Miss Trixie

I bring him out whenever we're spanked with a monster sneax-storm. He's hysterical. :D

Here's hoping for a nice Christmas storm. (nothing too crazy)

789 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:21:59am

re: #753 Dustyvet
ROTFL! Great one!

790 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:22:37am

BBIAB

I'm going to vacuum Maisey the Parrot's cage, which is floor length. I just use a small 5 gallon shop vac, gets the job done quickly.

I put Maisey on the top of the cage, and see screams and yells and fights with the shop vac until I'm done. She'll spread her wings full out to try to scare the shop vac.

It's priceless.

791 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:22:40am

re: #788 FrogMarch

Here's hoping for a nice Christmas storm. (nothing too crazy)

GolBULL WARMING will freeze your ass off... ;p

792 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:22:48am

re: #786 3 wood

Last year was ridiculously high too.

I think the system sucks. But as long as it's the rules, might as well take advantage of it.

793 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:22:57am

re: #776 Walter L. Newton

The producer decides how the budget is spent. He also make most of the artistic decisions, like who will write the script, who will write the music, who will write the lyrics, sort of like the manager of a entertainment project.

When you see "executive producer" on a credit, many times that person has done nothing more than invest his or his companies money in a project, and they leave most of the work and decisions up to the producer.

There is actually investment firms that specialize in entertainment ventures.

Entourage has like 20 producers.. I would have fired all 20 last season except for the dude with money

794 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:23:20am

re: #783 Nevergiveup

Time will tell. I think that is why they play the games.

It will be interesting to see if the league catches up to Sabathia and spots how he tips his pitches.

Watch his arm angle on release.

795 Lincolntf  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:23:42am

re: #786 3 wood

As much as it pains me to say it, the Yankees have had a great winter meeting session. With Sabathia and Burnett added to their rotation, it's gonna be a months-long brawl in the AL East.

796 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:23:45am

re: #784 FrogMarch

oh for crying out loud.

Obama got run over by a reindeer, coming home from Governor Blagojevich's house on Christmas Eve...

797 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:24:07am

re: #785 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO... Oh you have no idea what I mean... Wagnerian only in the sense of dark cynical and dripping with despair... ;p

Well, if you know this German story, it is dripping with despair.

798 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:24:20am

re: #755 JCM
Yep, as I said last night, reminded me some of the Weather Underground's Brinks Armored Car hold up in 1981 when an armed guard and a cop were shot from ambush. Looks like someone just wanted to kill a cop.
Hope they catch the mofo(s) behind this really quickly!

799 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:24:39am

re: #793 HoosierHoops

Entourage has like 20 producers.. I would have fired all 20 last season except for the dude with money

You have your very own entourage? I used to have an entourage, but had to give them up when I went broke being a nearly practically almost famous Rock Star... ;(

800 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:25:14am

re: #757 Nevergiveup
IIRC he's talking about the Germans who've said, PUBLICALLY that they won't do night patrols at all.

801 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:26:07am

Watching Tea Leoni in Deep Impact..Gosh she is one fine actress..
The part when she realizes it's going to be the end of the world and she slams her drink and goes from crying to laughing is great.. The look on her face as she realizes it...

802 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:26:41am

re: #798 realwest

Yep, as I said last night, reminded me some of the Weather Underground's Brinks Armored Car hold up in 1981 when an armed guard and a cop were shot from ambush. Looks like someone just wanted to kill a cop.
Hope they catch the mofo(s) behind this really quickly!

We haven't any that crap for a long time...

803 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:27:14am

re: #794 3 wood

It will be interesting to see if the league catches up to Sabathia and spots how he tips his pitches.

Watch his arm angle on release.

How do you see his arms behind that fat stomach and ass?

804 Bobblehead  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:27:44am

re: #790 Walter L. Newton

BBIAB

I'm going to vacuum Maisey the Parrot's cage, which is floor length. I just use a small 5 gallon shop vac, gets the job done quickly.

I put Maisey on the top of the cage, and see screams and yells and fights with the shop vac until I'm done. She'll spread her wings full out to try to scare the shop vac.

It's priceless.

Got a picture of that?

805 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:27:56am

re: #766 newsjunkie_ky
Ah nuts! This stupid webmail never tells me or gives me an alert when I have new e-mail and I'm so used to gettng those alerts if I don't see any I never check!
I shall do so shortly!
Thanks sweetie!

806 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:29:01am

Muslim blood orgy censored by the MSM...
Eid al-Adha (feast of the sacrifice) was a few days ago. This gory ritual happens every year and the Ummah always revels in the blood, fear, and animal cruelty. Getty Images has some pics (Camel, Cow, and more). But Yahoo pics has decided this year not to run pictures of the slaughter.

807 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:29:26am

re: #774 JCM
Well never thought of it that way, but I guess it does! LOL!

808 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:29:47am

Speaking of baseball signings:

Indians sign closer Wood

CLEVELAND -- Kerry Wood is the Cleveland Indians' new closer.

The former Chicago Cubs star signed a two-year deal worth nearly $20 million, the team announced Saturday. The contract includes a third-year option with a vesting mechanism.

Kerry Wood's arm has seen more operations than Joan River's face.

Things Cleveland fans can count on from Wood:

1. A dead arm coming out of spring training

2. Seeing a consistent 95 mph fastball when the weather warms up that makes you think you get a real hot closer here.

3. A 3 week stay on the DL in June.

4. A good return from the DL after the all star break

5. A return to the DL in late August.

Your pitching coach had better have a real good Plan B for a closer.

809 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:30:43am

re: #806 Killgore Trout

Muslim blood orgy censored by the MSM...
Eid al-Adha (feast of the sacrifice) was a few days ago. This gory ritual happens every year and the Ummah always revels in the blood, fear, and animal cruelty. Getty Images has some pics (Camel, Cow, and more). But Yahoo pics has decided this year not to run pictures of the slaughter.

Lovely. So what's for lunch?

810 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:31:00am

re: #737 Killgore Trout

A little morning music from Fred Phelps...
Santa Claus Will Take You To Hell

These are the people engraving the invitation to Islam from America. *spit*

Morning Lizardia!

811 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:31:21am

re: #768 HoosierHoops

Hey, how are you doing?
Where's my pix of Winston?

812 Bobblehead  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:31:43am

Forgive me Lord but I'm so enjoying this Blago scandal. Lie to cover lie to cover lie...
Looks like the Trib is hitting this hard. Hah!

813 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:31:44am

re: #786 3 wood
Do you know the team salary for the RedSox and what it's likely to be for the Rays now that they've finally won something?

814 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:32:04am

re: #806 Killgore Trout

Muslim blood orgy censored by the MSM...
Eid al-Adha (feast of the sacrifice) was a few days ago. This gory ritual happens every year and the Ummah always revels in the blood, fear, and animal cruelty. Getty Images has some pics (Camel, Cow, and more). But Yahoo pics has decided this year not to run pictures of the slaughter.

God, it almost wants to make me become a vegetarian..then, I would have to change my name to Skinny Vegetarian Bastard...

815 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:32:19am

re: #803 nevergiveup

How do you see his arms behind that fat stomach and ass?

When he steps toward the plate to deliver the ball, he has a clearly different arm angle for his fast ball than he does his breaking stuff.

For an observant major league hitter (becoming rare these days) that is all you need to take him out.

816 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:32:34am

re: #811 newsjunkie_ky

Hey, how are you doing?
Where's my pix of Winston?

Oh crap.. I have some pictures of him on my work computer.. I'll email you monday..

817 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:32:41am

re: #737 Killgore Trout

A little morning music from Fred Phelps...
Santa Claus Will Take You To Hell

Hey, Fred?

818 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:33:55am

re: #806 Killgore Trout

Oh, Killgore,...you always give me the best excuses to start drinking early...

819 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:34:17am

re: #802 JCM
Yeah, gee I wonder what's happened recently that might, ah, encourage such viscious behavior?

820 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:34:29am

re: #815 3 wood

They call that a 'tell' in poker-is there an MLB term for that-say 'tip-off'?

821 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:34:37am

re: #813 realwest

Do you know the team salary for the RedSox and what it's likely to be for the Rays now that they've finally won something?

Pretty high too.

But $243 million in two pitchers that are not exactly spring chickens is a big risk. If either of those two guys break down, oh my.

822 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:35:02am

re: #790 Walter L. Newton

BBIAB

I'm going to vacuum Maisey the Parrot's cage, which is floor length. I just use a small 5 gallon shop vac, gets the job done quickly.

I put Maisey on the top of the cage, and see screams and yells and fights with the shop vac until I'm done. She'll spread her wings full out to try to scare the shop vac.

It's priceless.

Ok, I'm done. Does anyone know how to get a parrot out of a 6 foot long vacuum cleaner hose? She's about midway? Do I just connect the hose to the exhaust side of the shop vac and blow her out of there?

823 Lincolntf  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:35:34am

re: #820 Pietr

Just "tip".
As in, "He's tipping his pitches."

824 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:35:47am

Wow. I talk about housecleaning, and everyone else on LGF feels guilty and starts doing it? At least, that's how I get my husband to clean; he knows I'm not feeling great, so he feels bad and starts helping. :D

825 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:35:55am

re: #803 nevergiveup
You don't - that's why he's a winning pitcher and good for a LOT of quality innings.
And while 3 wood is no doubt correct about spotting what he's throwing, there's a way to go from knowing what's coming and hitting it, ya know?

826 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:36:11am

re: #809 nevergiveup

Sorry, I should have put a gore warning on those pics.
/ooops

827 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:36:15am

re: #822 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I'm done. Does anyone know how to get a parrot out of a 6 foot long vacuum cleaner hose? She's about midway? Do I just connect the hose to the exhaust side of the shop vac and blow her out of there?

Its either that or a coat hanger LOL. Good morning everyone!

828 Bobblehead  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:36:23am

re: #824 vxbush

Wow. I talk about housecleaning, and everyone else on LGF feels guilty and starts doing it? At least, that's how I get my husband to clean; he knows I'm not feeling great, so he feels bad and starts helping. :D

What a peach!

829 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:36:45am

re: #822 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I'm done. Does anyone know how to get a parrot out of a 6 foot long vacuum cleaner hose? She's about midway? Do I just connect the hose to the exhaust side of the shop vac and blow her out of there?

Borrow your neighbors cat? Or, tell your bird, that under no circumstances is it allowed outside the cage...then it will feel compelled to leave

830 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:36:50am

re: #809 nevergiveup

Lovely. So what's for lunch?

Creamed chipped camel on toast?

831 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:37:17am

Union-founded nonprofit spent zero on its charitable purpose in two years

A nonprofit organization founded by California's largest union local reported spending nothing on its charitable purpose -- to develop housing for low-income workers -- during at least two of the four years it has been operating, federal records show.

The charity, launched by a scandal-ridden Los Angeles chapter of the Service Employees International Union, had total expenses of about $165,000 for 2005 and 2006, and all of the money went to consulting fees, insurance costs and other overhead, according to its Internal Revenue Service filings.

Records show no recent aid to two charities from union golf event
Charity watchdogs say that nonprofits should never have zero program expenses in two successive years and that well-performing charities direct at least 70% of their annual spending to their charitable purpose.

"Of the 5,000-plus charities we've looked at, I don't think we've ever seen one that didn't spend anything on its charitable programs," said Sandra Miniutti, vice president of Charity Navigator, an online rating service.

Records show no recent aid to two charities from union golf event

For several years, the Service Employees International Union's largest California local has staged a lavish golf tournament that it bills as a fundraiser for two nonprofit groups affiliated with the labor organization.

But neither charity's financial reports have specified any income from the annual event since 2004, Internal Revenue Service records through last year show. And the SEIU chapter itself specified no expenses or revenues from the 2006 tournament, even though costs and receipts for the summertime gala at the Four Seasons Resort in Carlsbad totaled hundreds of thousands of dollars in other years, according to financial statements the union filed with the U.S. Labor Department.


Promotional material listed Western Dental as official sponsor of the 2006 tournament. Representatives of Western Dental did not return phone calls. The former president of the local, Tyrone Freeman, said in a Times interview last summer that the company provided dental care for union members. He said the union's business dealings with Western Dental had nothing to do with the sponsorship.

The SEIU local, which represents 160,000 low-income workers, is the target of a federal corruption investigation, the result of Times reports on its spending practices. A spokeswoman for the union's national office, Michelle Ringuette, said the tournament has become part of the federal probe. She declined to comment further.

SEIU, SEIU, why does that union sound familiar? Oh yeah . . .

/Blagojevich and Union Have Longstanding Ties

832 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:37:25am

re: #822 Walter L. Newton

Figure out which way the wings are, then use a rod with a soft cloth in front to gently push-being carefull not to catch the head and break the neck...:>)

/white smoke.

833 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:37:33am

re: #827 CapeCoddah

Good Morning CapeCoddah!

834 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:38:07am

re: #737 Killgore Trout

A little morning music from Fred Phelps...
Santa Claus Will Take You To Hell

Those cretins aren't Christian any more than Jeremiah Right and his congregation are.

835 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:38:55am

re: #812 Bobblehead
Yep, I'm enjoying it too! From your link:

Two sources confirm that Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s new chief of staff, had a number of conversations with Blagojevich chief of staff John Harris to discuss acceptable candidates to fill the rest of Obama’s Senate term. These conversations got captured by federal wiretaps and will likely be reviewed by a grand jury looking to indict people on corruption charges

[emphasis added, realwest]

836 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:39:34am

re: #834 rightymouse

Those cretins aren't Christian any more than Jeremiah Right wrong and his congregation are.

fixed that for you...

837 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:39:35am

re: #834 rightymouse

Those cretins aren't Christian any more than Jeremiah Right and his congregation are.

Problem is, so long as they claim to be...they represent all of us. *hack-spit*

838 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:39:44am

re: #831 Killian Bundy

Union-founded nonprofit spent zero on its charitable purpose in two years

SEIU, SEIU, why does that union sound familiar? Oh yeah . . .

/Blagojevich and Union Have Longstanding Ties

Imagine that, a corrupt union non-profit? Who could have, would have imagined that? If there was any truth to their name, they should change it to "Union Slush Fund".

839 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:39:49am

Hey Hermit! How are you today?

840 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:40:20am

re: #820 Pietr

They call that a 'tell' in poker-is there an MLB term for that-say 'tip-off'?

Yeah, a ticket to the minors.

Seriously, they just call it a "tip" from what I know.

Sometimes you can see the catcher tipping the pitch if you watch how they set up behind the plate. Sometimes they hold the mitt differently for a fast ball than a breaking pitch.

Have you ever been watching a game on TV and keep hearing someone whistle real loud a lot as the pitcher goes into the wind up? That's the 1st base coach signaling to the hitter what is coming after reading the tip off from the catcher.

841 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:40:22am

re: #815 3 wood
So how come he keeps winning? As I said, knowing what's coming and hitting it ain't the same thing (given that Ted Williams (rip) is no longer around).

842 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:40:23am

re: #819 realwest

Yeah, gee I wonder what's happened recently that might, ah, encourage such viscious behavior?

Radio news report now says a second officer has died from his injuries.

I'm wondering if it might be some local issue, or conflict with the local PD.

843 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:40:47am

re: #829 Desert Dog

Borrow your neighbors cat? Or, tell your bird, that under no circumstances is it allowed outside the cage...then it will feel compelled to leave

I hope everyone knows I'm kidding about Maisey getting stuck in the vacuum hose.

I have the cleaning down to a surgical like procedure. The vacuum doesn't even get plugged in until I have here on top of the cage. And then, I place the hose into the cage and THEN turn the shop vacuum on. The hose is never outside of the cage while the vacuum is turned on.

While I was just cleaning the cage, I was bending over a bit and Maisey wanted to walk off the top of the cage and sit on my head. This bird likes me so much she would sleep on my stomach all night if I let her.

Of course, as soon as I put her back in her cage, she went over to her food bowl and threw a bunch of seed to the bottom of the cage. She loves me so much.

844 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:40:56am

re: #834 rightymouse

Those cretins aren't Christian any more than Jeremiah Right and his congregation are.

You can say that again.

845 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:41:28am

Early morning boob thread?
London News: A sexually explicit art work depicting a Burkha-clad woman exposing a nipple sparked outrage among some Muslims

A SEXUALLY explicit art work depicting a Burkha-clad woman sparked outrage today after it went on on display at a London gallery.

The image shows a woman in a full-length burkha – but instead of having a cut-out for the eyes, the cut-out exposes one of her nipples.

The artwork has already been condemned by the Union of Muslim Organisations of the UK and Ireland (UMO) as "blasphemous, cheap porn".

A spokesman said: "At a time when tensions are already heightened, gallery owners shouldn't be exhibiting artwork like this - it's offensive, inflammatory. and degrading to Muslim women."

With nip pic!

846 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:41:32am

re: #839 CapeCoddah

Hey Hermit! How are you today?

Feeling almost human again after a week+ of being sick...lovin' life now! and you?

847 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:41:37am

re: #836 Pietr

fixed that for you...

Thanks. I really dislike people like that who think they are 'Christian' and clearly are not.

848 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:42:16am

re: #837 hermit

Problem is, so long as they claim to be...they represent all of us. *hack-spit*

And the rest of get stuck cleaning up the messes they make.

"I wave my privates in their general direction!"

849 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:42:18am

re: #834 rightymouse

Those cretins aren't Christian any more than Jeremiah Right and his congregation are.

Green Christmas

850 Bobblehead  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:42:25am

Cartoons of the day..
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

[Link: www.lucianne.com...]

851 wiffersnapper  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:42:32am

John Wayne, way to hit the nail on the head. Bravo.

852 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:42:33am

re: #837 hermit

Problem is, so long as they claim to be...they represent all of us. *hack-spit*


Not for me they don't.

853 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:43:02am

re: #845 Killgore Trout

Early morning boob thread?
London News: A sexually explicit art work depicting a Burkha-clad woman exposing a nipple sparked outrage among some Muslims

With nip pic!

Well, Safari brought up the style sheet, but no article appear inside it.

854 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:43:12am

re: #825 realwest

And while 3 wood is no doubt correct about spotting what he's throwing, there's a way to go from knowing what's coming and hitting it, ya know?

True, and reading tip offs is a dying art.

I do it over the TV cause I was so under talented in college ball I had to do things like that in order to be able to compete.

But many in the majors don't do it, they just go up, guess fastball on every pitch and swing for the fences.

855 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:43:33am

re: #845 Killgore Trout

A whole new line of photos...
Burka nip slip.

856 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:43:43am

re: #844 MandyManners

You can say that again.

I unloaded the camera.

/quit nagging

857 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:43:49am

re: #828 Bobblehead

What a peach!

Yeah, he's pretty good. He could have left me long ago and been justified. But he stuck around anyway. Gotta love him.

858 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:44:18am

re: #844 MandyManners

You can say that again.


People like that give Christians a bad name.

859 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:44:36am

re: #853 Walter L. Newton

Well, Safari brought up the style sheet, but no article appear inside it.

Hmmm...works for me on firefox.

860 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:45:03am

re: #835 realwest

Yep, I'm enjoying it too! From your link:

Two sources confirm that Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s new chief of staff, had a number of conversations with Blagojevich chief of staff John Harris to discuss acceptable candidates to fill the rest of Obama’s Senate term. These conversations got captured by federal wiretaps and will likely be reviewed by a grand jury looking to indict people on corruption charges

[emphasis added, realwest]

Which is why Obama is not talking anymore, he's trying to find out what they got on tape so he knows what to spin and whether to throw Emanuel under the bus.

861 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:45:51am

re: #849 Dustyvet

Green Christmas

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

What in the world was that? lol!

862 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:45:54am

re: #858 rightymouse

People like that give Christians a bad name.

I have full confidence Freddie and crew will hear these words at some point in the future.

I never knew you. Depart from me, workers of lawlessness.

863 experiencedtraveller  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:45:58am

Bernard Madoff arrested. This is going to get ugly. Really, really ugly.

864 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:46:16am

re: #859 Killgore Trout

Hmmm...works for me on firefox.

Safari no worky, FF okay...

865 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:46:22am

Nuttin' For Christmas


866 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:46:24am

re: #852 rightymouse

Not for me they don't.

me neither... but to non-christians these are the folks that'll be held up for display and the rest of us always suffer for it.

Makes want to walk up to them and say, "Alright! Everybody here...hand over your uniforms and get out! You are not on my team anymore!"

/wish...wish

867 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:47:14am

re: #850 Bobblehead
Indeed they are excellent!
Wonder what Chris Muir has up today?

868 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:47:24am

#845
The comments are interesting...


Guest_Aziz says: What is the purpose of nonblievers offended those of us who have morals and standards and modesty? This socalled piece of art is meant only to offend Muslims and nothing more. It's these kinds of provocations against Islam that break the peace between us. Do you really think we are going to stand for it?
869 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:47:45am

re: #846 hermit

Feeling almost human again after a week+ of being sick...lovin' life now! and you?

LOL, Just woke up this morning with hubby's nasty cold, so I am just starting down the sick path. Took him nearly 2 weeks to get rid of it, so, now I inherit the Sudafed package from his desk.

870 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:48:11am

re: #856 Killian Bundy

I unloaded the camera.

/quit nagging

Awww. Bill's such a cutie! Even the satanic look from the box!

871 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:48:26am

re: #841 realwest

So how come he keeps winning? As I said, knowing what's coming and hitting it ain't the same thing (given that Ted Williams (rip) is no longer around).

Very good run support and many major league hitters are to dumb to read the pitches.

He probably will work out for the Yanks overall due to that, but don't plan on him winning "big" games against smart teams.

872 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:48:29am

re: #864 JCM

I really wish web designers would test their pages with different browsers. It's very frustrating.

873 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:48:37am

So, how long until Israel drops the bombs on Iran? Not much time left under Bush's watch...

874 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:48:53am

re: #858 rightymouse

People like that give Christians a bad name.

What pisses me off is that some actually think he's following the Word.

875 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:49:35am

re: #868 Killgore Trout

#845
The comments are interesting...



It's these kinds of provocations against Islamyour existence that break the peace between us. Do you really think we are going to stand for it?

Re-written for accuracy.

876 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:49:36am

Oil Companies Voting With Their Feet

Another day, another oil company fleeing the country. No, this isn't Ecuador, the banana republic that just defaulted on its debt after chasing out investors. It's the United States, and what we're seeing is self-defense.

Much political hay has been made in Congress about "unpatriotic" corporations that move operations abroad. Weatherford International is the latest, taking its headquarters from Houston to Switzerland. The oil services company said that it wants to be closer to its markets. But what it really meant was that it no longer saw the future in the U.S.

In a political atmosphere of blaming corporations, it's no wonder. Halliburton fled to Dubai in 2007. Tyco International, Foster Wheeler and Transocean International all went to Switzerland. As a pattern emerges, America's global standing diminishes, in part because it's based on the willingness of companies to invest. It's an especially bad sign when domestic companies flee.

And many more will follow.

/welcome to Bonkeyworld

877 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:49:37am

re: #874 MandyManners

What pisses me off is that some actually think he's following the Word.

You cannot fix stupid. Morning, Mandy.

878 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:49:44am

re: #868 Killgore Trout

It's these kinds of provocations against Islam that break the peace between us. Do you really think we are going to stand for it?

No, we think you're going to blow up for it.

879 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:49:48am

re: #868 Killgore Trout

#845
The comments are interesting...

If you are going to show a shock Pic of a boob in a black sheet.. Try at least to do a young one..let's say Beyonce..that would be click worthy...

880 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:49:50am

re: #868 Killgore Trout

#845
The comments are interesting...

Gah.
Do they really think it was Muslima underneath that burqa?
And, btw, why do only muslim wimmin have feelings of offended honour?
Ah - right, Western women have none, bu definition.
I do so loathe this ROPMA!

881 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:49:55am

re: #860 3 wood
I do believe you're right - wonder if Obama can legally get what's on all the wiretaps?
My guess is Emmanuel is going under the bus for a while!

882 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:50:25am

re: #872 Killgore Trout

I really wish web designers would test their pages with different browsers. It's very frustrating.

The don't follow core HTML standards. A lot of those errors come from using MS Frontpage.

883 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:50:35am

re: #845 Killgore Trout

Early morning boob thread?
London News: A sexually explicit art work depicting a Burkha-clad woman exposing a nipple sparked outrage among some Muslims

With nip pic!

Let the rioting begin!

884 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:51:43am

re: #862 JCM

I have full confidence Freddie and crew will hear these words at some point in the future.

I never knew you. Depart from me, workers of lawlessness.

Yep. A personal knowledge of G-d and Christ should bring peace, contentment and joy to an individual not stark raving bonked out looniness. The latter is a sign of mental/emotional instability.

885 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:51:52am

re: #883 Desert Dog

Nipple Ackbar!

886 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:52:07am

re: #883 Desert Dog

Let the rioting begin!

I heard that Rage Boy blew a gasket on this one...:) He really needs to calm down before he has a stroke...

887 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:52:39am

re: #877 CapeCoddah

You cannot fix stupid. Morning, Mandy.

Neatly tied back to the Thread Quote, Coddah! I will send prayers - this has been one nasty lil cold bug... stay down, stay medicated.

888 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:52:39am

re: #863 experiencedtraveller

Bernard Madoff arrested. This is going to get ugly. Really, really ugly.

Could you boil down what the 20-page show-cause order says?

889 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:53:03am

re: #866 hermit

me neither... but to non-christians these are the folks that'll be held up for display and the rest of us always suffer for it.

Makes want to walk up to them and say, "Alright! Everybody here...hand over your uniforms and get out! You are not on my team anymore!"

/wish...wish


Amazing how they would influence non-Christians more than the ones who quietly go about their business without bothering anyone.

890 Lincolntf  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:53:16am

re: #860 3 wood


If Obama throws Emanuel under the bus before he is even inaugurated, that will be a nice little "victory" for the Right.
It'd take Obama down a notch, get Rahm out of the way forever, and even help the Repubs in the contest to be Obama's Senate replacement.

If Emanuel sticks around, though, then that will set a very bad for precedent for the next four years. It'll mean that not only is Obama untouchable, but that being a part of his Administration is a get out of jail free card with the press/public.

891 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:53:47am

re: #863 experiencedtraveller

Bernard Madoff arrested. This is going to get ugly. Really, really ugly.

I just heard an investment advisor on a radio talk show talk about this. He was trying to spin this that the investment business is not all like this.

That's the same spin he's been putting on all this bailout, handouts and burn outs that have been going down for the last 2-3 months. It's only a few bad people, the people in these business' are basically good people.

It's a blatant as listening to Bloggo claim that he's innocent. Do these people understand how dishonest and stupid they sound.

Because of shit like this, people in this country is going to loose all trust in anything, government, business, religion and the future.

Oh by the way, did you know that Bernard Madoff's last name is pronounce "made off." If that isn't classic.

892 experiencedtraveller  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:54:49am

re: #888 MandyManners

Could you boil down what the 20-page show-cause order says?

Big. Huge. MONSTROUS Ponzi scheme targetting the 'rich'.

893 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:54:52am

re: #889 rightymouse

Amazing how they would influence non-Christians more than the ones who quietly go about their business without bothering anyone.

Well, it's kinda like the slpodey Muslims, I guess. Things go "bang" and everybody looks.

894 jwb7605  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:55:06am

re: #850 Bobblehead

Cartoons of the day..
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

[Link: www.lucianne.com...]

The lucianne link contains some sort of active threat.
Or, at least, so indicates my AVG virus package and FireFox.
If I figure out what it is/was, I'll be back later with details.

895 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:55:07am

re: #889 rightymouse
Hi there righty! Yeah and folks will be all over Christians asking who are WE to judge who is and isn't Christian.
Been there, done that, done with that!
How are ya today?

896 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:55:25am

re: #877 CapeCoddah

You cannot fix stupid. Morning, Mandy.

Good morning, CC. Just stay on your side of the room. I don't want your cold.

897 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:55:51am

re: #874 MandyManners

What pisses me off is that some actually think he's following the Word.

Some people thought Jim Jones and David Koresh were too. Lost souls.

898 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:56:44am

My gosh, the Chicago Bulls are awful:

Gay, Grizzlies beat Bulls for 3-game winning streak

MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- In a game featuring the NBA's top scoring rookies, it was a couple of Memphis veterans who carried the offensive load.

Rudy Gay scored 29 points and Hakim Warrick added 21, both matching their season highs, as the Grizzlies won their third straight with a 103-96 victory over the Chicago Bulls on Friday night

The other night the Bulls coach Vinnie Del Negro got so frustrated with the lack of defense by his own team that he started screaming at opposing players when they shot trying to distract them.

That did not work either.

Look for Vinnie to get fined by the league for that move, by the way. Strictly bush league.

899 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:57:03am

re: #892 experiencedtraveller

Big. Huge. MONSTROUS Ponzi scheme targetting the 'rich'.

What I love most about this is the inference that those who got it and ignored all the warning signs thought he was cheating somebody else! They knew he was lying about the returns, just thought he was cheating inside -- NOT cheating them! LOLOL!

900 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:57:31am

re: #813 realwest

Do you know the team salary for the RedSox and what it's likely to be for the Rays now that they've finally won something?

The rays will not change much for a few years until some of their young stars are eligible for free agency.

901 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:58:02am

re: #887 hermit

Neatly tied back to the Thread Quote, Coddah! I will send prayers - this has been one nasty lil cold bug... stay down, stay medicated.

Yeah, like that will happen, no time to rest, I run a small company! Medicated, I wish, but you can no longer buy a product that relieves cold symptoms. Since they changed the federal laws, the only cold medicine you can get is like taking placebo sugar pills. Nothing works, not even the stuff behind the pharmacy shelf.

902 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:58:22am

Back from my lovely Baari. What's the latest controversy?

903 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:58:35am

re: #890 Lincolntf


If Emanuel sticks around, though, then that will set a very bad for precedent for the next four years. It'll mean that not only is Obama untouchable, but that being a part of his Administration is a get out of jail free card with the press/public.

So far we don't know exactly what is happening. Rahm may be even working with the feds.

How in the hell can you make the comment above? You are not even making a supposition, you are making an assumption, as if it is proven facts.

904 experiencedtraveller  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:58:39am

Jewish lizards check your investments NOW. Seems to be big ethnic exposure to Made-off's (ha..Walter) shenanigans.

This guy was the former Chairman of Nasdaq.

905 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:58:54am

re: #896 MandyManners

Good morning, CC. Just stay on your side of the room. I don't want your cold.

I don't blame you, I will go get a mask...

906 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:58:54am

re: #871 3 wood

Very good run support and many major league hitters are to dumb to read the pitches.

He probably will work out for the Yanks overall due to that, but don't plan on him winning "big" games against smart teams.

Can't I be happy till at least the all star game?

907 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:59:39am

re: #898 3 wood

Gay, Grizzlies beat Bulls for 3-game winning streak

ROFLMAO - Okay, this was all I noticed at first and thought you were responding to the Santa/Hell thing! Hahahaha!

908 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:59:55am

re: #881 realwest

My guess is Emmanuel is going under the bus for a while!

Well, he still has not resigned his Congressional seat. I find that interesting.

909 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 8:59:58am

Nude Virgin Mary cover prompts Playboy apology

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Gee how could anyone think that would be offensive?
/

910 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:00:25am

re: #895 realwest

Hi there righty! Yeah and folks will be all over Christians asking who are WE to judge who is and isn't Christian.
Been there, done that, done with that!
How are ya today?

In certain cases yes. In the case of Phelps. When people refuse to repent, and cause damage to the body, we Christians clearly need to send them packing.

Phelps falls into that category.

911 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:00:41am

re: #907 hermit

ROFLMAO - Okay, this was all I noticed at first and thought you were responding to the Santa/Hell thing! Hahahaha!

A grizzly is scary enough...when you have gay grizzlies...watch out!

912 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:00:55am

re: #909 nevergiveup

Nude Virgin Mary cover prompts Playboy apology

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Gee how could anyone think that would be offensive?
/

No pics?

913 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:01:21am

re: #906 nevergiveup

Can't I be happy till at least the all star game?

Sure, be happy.

I'm just giving you the scouting report.

914 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:01:40am

re: #908 3 wood

Well, he still has not resigned his Congressional seat. I find that interesting.

I think he is ultimately the "Buffer" for Obama. And he will be the fall guy here.
" The family has alot of Buffers"

915 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:01:55am

re: #901 CapeCoddah

I still stand by the tried and true (if slow) - mug of chicken broth, salt, pepper, fresh garlic, rosemary, thyme & a little xtra hot kosher horseradish. Repeat as necessary and don't be stingy with the garlic. It HEALS.

916 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:02:11am

re: #909 nevergiveup

Nude Virgin Mary cover prompts Playboy apology

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Gee how could anyone think that would be offensive?
/

The Christians are igniting cars and burning effigies of Hugh Hefner right now! Oh wait, they're not...

917 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:02:22am

re: #911 Desert Dog

A grizzly is scary enough...when you have gay grizzlies...watch out!

Phew - am I glad I wasn't the only one who was wondering about those gay grizzlie bears ...!

918 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:02:26am

re: #903 Walter L. Newton
Walter - please check my #835 - he had "numerous" conversations with someone from Blago's office. And if he was working with the Feds, depending on who said what to whom, that could be contrued as entrapment.

919 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:02:35am

re: #913 3 wood

Sure, be happy.

I'm just giving you the scouting report.

haven't you ever heard that ignorance is bliss?

920 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:03:07am

Heh. Forgot to mention: my Christmas gift from my sister? A basket full of Godiva chocolates.

/nice piece of heaven

921 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:03:14am

re: #912 Erik The Red

No pics?

Less to see than the Burka Nip Slip... You see more skin at Hollyweird premier.

922 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:04:09am

re: #918 realwest

Walter - please check my #835 .

{imitating Walter} Okay, turn your head and cough.

/ducks back into cave

923 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:04:20am

re: #908 3 wood
"he still has not resigned his Congressional seat" wnder how long he has before he has to resign - maybe January 20th?

924 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:04:34am

re: #893 hermit

Well, it's kinda like the slpodey Muslims, I guess. Things go "bang" and everybody looks.

At least we say something about the ones trying to corrupt our religion and don't get bullied into submission for speaking out.

Muslims tend to stay silent for the most part, probably because the violence and hatred is sadly part of the religious indoctrination and they are intimidated into silence.

925 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:04:41am

re: #921 JCM

Less to see than the Burka Nip Slip... You see more skin at Hollyweird premier.

Maybe but the merchandise does look fetching?

926 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:05:04am

re: #915 hermit

I still stand by the tried and true (if slow) - mug of chicken broth, salt, pepper, fresh garlic, rosemary, thyme & a little xtra hot kosher horseradish. Repeat as necessary and don't be stingy with the garlic. It HEALS.

LOL, I'm Italian, during our first 3 or so years of marriage, hubby almost croaked a few times from garlic overdose. He is used to it now, built up a resistance, so to speak. I have my tea with honey. I will keep your recipe on hand, though, thanks.

927 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:05:59am

re: #910 JCM
Well how many fucking times do Christians have to throw Phelps out before we stop having to do that? I've done it and ain't gonna play that game anymore.

928 broomer  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:07:21am

OT:

Can someone help me find a recent article or blog regarding the investments in the auto industry? A writer wrote that he saw the writings on the wall 25 years ago that the auto industry burn through $450 billion investments. This is money that could be invested elsewhere, had politics not interfered.

I tried to google with the words auto, burn, investments, obvious, prophetic and all came up empty. It was published within the last month, I believe.


Thanks.

929 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:07:24am

re: #922 hermit
Hey hermit! Hellooo (echo from cave) how are youooo doooing today?! LOL!

930 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:07:32am

Mornin' all. From a snowy Wenatchee Valley. 2+ inches of snow in the lowlands. Snoqualamie Pass closed twice yesterday because of idiots not slowing down or carrying chains.

931 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:07:43am

Good afternoon, Lizards!

932 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:08:17am

re: #930 pingjockey

Mornin' all. From a snowy Wenatchee Valley. 2+ inches of snow in the lowlands. Snoqualamie Pass closed twice yesterday because of idiots not slowing down or carrying chains.

OK and that is were exactly?

933 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:08:18am

Anyone with the Wii system, what do you really need to work the darn thing?
Got one for daughter and SIL and need to know what else is needed besides the system itself.
Thanks,
news

934 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:08:21am

re: #924 rightymouse
Spot on post righty!

935 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:08:33am

re: #926 CapeCoddah

LOL, I'm Italian, during our first 3 or so years of marriage, hubby almost croaked a few times from garlic overdose. He is used to it now, built up a resistance, so to speak. I have my tea with honey. I will keep your recipe on hand, though, thanks.

I like 4 parts scotch, 2 parts lemon/lime 2 parts honey. If you have a part or 2 of codine that is the cherry on the cake.

936 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:08:38am

re: #918 realwest

Walter - please check my #835 - he had "numerous" conversations with someone from Blago's office. And if he was working with the Feds, depending on who said what to whom, that could be contrued as entrapment.

We cannot construe anything yet, we don't have the facts, whether we like that or not.

It was just announced on the radio that Obama admits that Rahm did speak to Bloggo to give him a list of possible candidates recommendations from Obama.

If that's all he did, then nothing wrong was done, even though Obama was hush mouth about all this.

Sure, Obama was probably covering his ass, but if nothing wrong was done, then nothing wrong was done.

We can't MAKE it happen.

I'm sorry, I've spent years on LGF listening to Lizards talk about people like the KOSKIDS building a case on little or no evidence, but when we start doing it here, it's ok.

937 experiencedtraveller  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:08:51am

50 billion dollars evaporated yesterday.

That is going to leave a mark.

938 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:08:55am

re: #924 rightymouse

At least we say something about the ones trying to corrupt our religion and don't get bullied into submission for speaking out.

Wish more of us did. It reminds me of OTS, when somebody wasn't meeting the character standards, the phrase was: "Not in MY Air Force"

IMnsHO - it's the profoundly overlooked BELONGING level of Maslow's hierarchy, you remember, the one before ESTEEM? Belonging is the level where you submit to accountability...too much focus on esteem these days.

Physiological/Safety/Belonging/Esteem/Self-Actualization

939 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:09:04am

re: #910 JCM
Phelps is NOT a Christian. An agitator, cult leader, moron, bigot, idiot, rabble rouser, but not a Christian.

940 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:09:09am

re: #931 goddessoftheclassroom

Good afternoon, Lizards!

Morning, goddess. Welcome to the room!

941 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:09:14am

re: #914 nevergiveup

I think he is ultimately the "Buffer" for Obama. And he will be the fall guy here.
" The family has alot of Buffers"

That might be a very apt comparision.

942 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:09:25am

re: #932 nevergiveup
Wa. state.

943 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:09:42am

re: #895 realwest

Hi there righty! Yeah and folks will be all over Christians asking who are WE to judge who is and isn't Christian.
Been there, done that, done with that!
How are ya today?


Am fine! Going to get the Xmas tree today and do the decorating bit at home.

Oh, I think that when all is said and done, most folks can separate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to Christians. :)

Happy and Sane minding their own business vs Loony and Starkers trying to shove insanity down other people's throats. Pick one. lol!

Whatchu up to?

944 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:09:58am

re: #932 nevergiveup
I think it's in Washington State - ya know, where folks always seem surprised by the bad weather! LOL!

945 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:10:01am

re: #929 realwest

{channeling TIgger} Huhlooo Rrrrabbit!

946 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:10:02am

re: #927 realwest

Well how many fucking times do Christians have to throw Phelps out before we stop having to do that? I've done it and ain't gonna play that game anymore.

I get Phelps thrown in my face all the time."Well, if Christians are like that..."

In stead of having something positive to share, I have to throw Phelps out first.

947 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:11:08am

{Goddess}
Nice to see you...

948 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:11:31am

re: #935 Erik The Red

I like 4 parts scotch, 2 parts lemon/lime 2 parts honey. If you have a part or 2 of codine that is the cherry on the cake.

Thanks Erik, I will keep that one on hand too!

949 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:11:33am

re: #944 realwest
Just the west siders.

950 Ben Hur  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:11:36am

The AG of Illinois' father is the Illinois House Speaker.

Corruption is a Dem family value.

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

951 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:11:39am

re: #944 realwest

I think it's in Washington State - ya know, where folks always seem surprised by the bad weather! LOL!

Took the kids to the dentist yesterday morning.
Snow was in the forecast.

Some drivers drove like it was snowing.

Seattle drivers have a large contingent of MORONS!

952 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:12:34am

re: #951 JCM

Took the kids to the dentist yesterday morning.
Snow was in the forecast.

Some drivers drove like it was snowing.

Seattle drivers have a large contingent of MORONS!

There is a surplus everywhere when it comes to MORONS

953 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:12:51am

re: #951 JCM
I would rather drive I-5 in LA than I-5 between Olympia and Everett.

954 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:13:25am

re: #940 vxbush

Morning, goddess. Welcome to the room!

{vxbusg}

To get us all in the Christmas spirit!

I just saw a little mouse. I picked it up with an old shirt before the cat could "play" with it. I wanted to let it go outside, but when I got to the door, it wasn't in the shirt any more.

Great. Mouse corpse in 3...2...1...

955 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:13:39am

re: #951 JCM

Took the kids to the dentist yesterday morning.
Snow was in the forecast.

Some drivers drove like it was snowing.

Seattle drivers have a large contingent of MORONS!

How did it go at the dentist?

956 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:13:44am

Good Morning, goddess!

957 Ben Hur  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:14:03am

re: #946 JCM

I get Phelps thrown in my face all the time."Well, if Christians are like that..."

In stead of having something positive to share, I have to throw Phelps out first.

Phelps group is the Neutered Kats of American Christianity.

958 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:14:04am

re: #954 goddessoftheclassroom
Have you checked your pockets?!

959 Ben Hur  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:14:21am

bbl

960 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:14:48am

re: #946 JCM

I get Phelps thrown in my face all the time."Well, if Christians are like that..."

In stead of having something positive to share, I have to throw Phelps out first.

Who is Phelps? Who the Fcuk is Alice

961 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:14:52am

re: #953 pingjockey

I would rather drive I-5 in LA than I-5 between Olympia and Everett.

You mean I-5 between LA and San Diego..?
The worst drive in the world...Hey and San Diego! who puts a major Airport in the middle of downtown? jeez!

962 VegasRick  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:15:18am

re: #931 goddessoftheclassroom

Good afternoon, Lizards!

Morning from here goddess, Quick question for you, I was reading an opine in our local paper and the writer was a teacher. The person was saying that this year we should give our childrens teachers cash instead of a gift. We have always and will continue to get gifts for our 2 boys teachers (we usually spend about $20 per teacher per kid). I always thought $ was kink of impersonal but after reading that article I started thinking a $20 gift card for each teacher (that would wind up being $40 per teacher from us. This way they could get whatever they want or need. What do you think.

963 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:15:23am

re: #951 JCM

Took the kids to the dentist yesterday morning.
Snow was in the forecast.

Some drivers drove like it was snowing.

Seattle drivers have a large contingent of MORONS!

Having driven in most places in the USA, plus many abroad, I had to edit that for you

964 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:15:44am

re: #919 nevergiveup

haven't you ever heard that ignorance is bliss?

Sorry. I've spent a lot of time around sports General Managers, coaches and the like, been in the room when they were breaking down game tape and analyzing individual players, and I've learned to evaluate athletic competitions and talent like they do. I had a room mate in college who was a coaches son, and he taught me a lot about how to analyze football.

My wife always says that if I see two kids kicking a soccer ball on their front yard, I immediately start analyzing speed and foot work.

I call it "GM" mode.

965 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:16:07am

re: #954 goddessoftheclassroom

I started naming them, the mice. I called them all "Jack." For A.A. Milnes' "What shall I call my little dormouse" poem. Cat wanted playmates, not food, so she just brought 'em in and let 'em go! Happy hunting!

966 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:16:11am

re: #951 JCM

Took the kids to the dentist yesterday morning.
Snow was in the forecast.

Some drivers drove like it was snowing.

Seattle drivers have a large contingent of MORONS!

Ever driven in and around Boston, JCM? You have not seen morons until you drive New England. My daughter went out to Chicago a year ago to visit a friend. She called me from a highway there to tell me how weird it was that the drivers were polite, and did not even realize that she was fighting for her life every time she left home to drive anywhere here. She was amazed.

967 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:16:16am

re: #961 HoosierHoops

You mean I-5 between LA and San Diego..?
The worst drive in the world...Hey and San Diego! who puts a major Airport in the middle of downtown? jeez!

Washington DC

968 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:16:28am

re: #954 goddessoftheclassroom

{vxbusg}

To get us all in the Christmas spirit!

I just saw a little mouse. I picked it up with an old shirt before the cat could "play" with it. I wanted to let it go outside, but when I got to the door, it wasn't in the shirt any more.

Great. Mouse corpse in 3...2...1...

Well, better a mouse corpse than a cat corpse. The way mine go at it, you'd think they were playing for keeps!

969 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:16:36am

re: #936 Walter L. Newton
Ah Walter - this is a whole lot more than Emmanuel giving Blago's rep a list of Obama's recommendations - and we know that because Hot Rod said, on wiretap, that he wasn't getting anything for the appointment - and he was pissed off as if he expected to get something for the payoff.I'm not making anything up - just saying that the deeper the investigation goes, the more Obama looks like what he is: a product of the Chicago Machine. Period.
And please, don't make comparisons to what's been said out here to what gets said at Kos cause there ain't any comparisons at all.

970 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:16:47am

re: #923 realwest

wnder how long he has before he has to resign - maybe January 20th?

Good question, I don't know.

971 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:17:32am

re: #896 MandyManners

Good morning Ms. Manners. I've survived, tho not sure how. ?

972 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:17:39am

re: #967 nevergiveup

Washington DC

Manhattan on a Friday afternoon...you are better off walking, especially if you wish to leave the island

973 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:17:40am

re: #961 HoosierHoops

You mean I-5 between LA and San Diego..?
The worst drive in the world...Hey and San Diego! who puts a major Airport in the middle of downtown? jeez!

Not many happy mediums. Denvers is about an hour outside of the city. Bostons Logan Airport is a nightmare to get in and out of even though it's less than two miles from downtown

974 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:17:47am

re: #961 HoosierHoops
Nah, done that drive too many times to count. I-5 up here in Wa state is terrible. Asshats don't know how to merge! try to get on the freeway doing 50.

975 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:18:23am

re: #954 goddessoftheclassroom

Great. Mouse corpse in 3...2...1...

That hurt.

976 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:18:26am

Good morning Lizards. Jesse Jackson Jr. is telling CNN that he is fighting for his good name & his life.
It does get dicey though . An Indian American group (Ghandi, not Cochesse) with close ties to Jessee Sr. held a fund raiser in Oabbrook Il recently. Jonathon Jackson was there. The organizer stated that they needed $1 Million to get Jesse Jr. the Senate seat.
This happeded after Blago is tapeed saying he spoke with a Jackson emissary & $1M was the number.
Don't look good.

977 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:18:28am

re: #971 Pietr

Good morning Ms. Manners. I've survived, tho not sure how. ?

Perseverence.

978 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:18:53am

re: #953 pingjockey

I would rather drive I-5 in LA than I-5 between Olympia and Everett.

It's amazing I didn't kill a few driving fire engine. But every time, I knew what bone head move they were going to make before they did.

979 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:19:21am

re: #939 pingjockey
Yeah but you know, ping, I'm getting pretty damn sick and tired of having to say that over and over and over again, only to be told that if Phelps identifies himself as a Chrisitian then he is.
Nope, not gonna play that game anymore.

980 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:20:00am

re: #966 CapeCoddah
Yep, took a kid to Logan Airport in 1984. Was stationed in Newport. What an adventure that was!

981 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:20:05am

re: #973 sattv4u2

Not many happy mediums. Denvers is about an hour outside of the city. Bostons Logan Airport is a nightmare to get in and out of even though it's less than two miles from downtown

Getting in and out of Logan is not nearly as bad as it used to be, although I loved it when the Ted Williams tunnel was open to commercial traffic only. Since it opened to the public, it jams, when it never did during the big dig boondoggle.

982 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:20:19am

re: #975 rightymouse

That hurt.

LOL! Yes, but we would show you great respect.

983 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:20:43am

re: #979 realwest
I don't. Never have.

984 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:21:01am

re: #973 sattv4u2

Not many happy mediums. Denvers is about an hour outside of the city. Bostons Logan Airport is a nightmare to get in and out of even though it's less than two miles from downtown

I like the Denver airport.. We fly Frontier..

985 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:21:02am

re: #979 realwest

Yeah but you know, ping, I'm getting pretty damn sick and tired of having to say that over and over and over again, only to be told that if Phelps identifies himself as a Chrisitian then he is.
Nope, not gonna play that game anymore.

Tell the person saying that that if he/ she describes him/herself as informed/ smart/ good looking/ thin,,, etc etc doesn't make it so!

986 VegasRick  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:21:14am

Goddess?

987 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:21:38am

re: #962 VegasRick

I think you're incredibly generous!

Seriously, speaking for myself, I am a professional. To be given a gift of money is like being given a tip, and that would make me feel uncomfortable.

A gift card, such as one to Amazon or a store (Staples or Bath and Body Works are also nice), would be a lovely gesture.

I also love "teacherish" gifts--ornaments, books, plaques, etc.

The BEST gift a student can give me is a letter telling me why he or she will remember me and my class. Knowing that I make a difference is why I do what I do. I put them in a "happy file" and pull them out every now and then.

988 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:21:42am

re: #950 Ben Hur

The AG of Illinois' father is the Illinois House Speaker.

Corruption is a Dem family value.

Of course. That is who she got lined up to run for the AG position.

See how Chicago politics works?

And Blago made it for his Congressional position (now held by, wait for it...Rahm Emanuel), after he married powerful Alderman Dick Mells daughter Patti. He then used that as a stepping stone to run for governor.

Guess who were key operatives in helping Blago get elected Governor both times?

Davd Axelrod

Barack Obama

Rahm Emauel.

989 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:21:46am

re: #980 pingjockey

Yep, took a kid to Logan Airport in 1984. Was stationed in Newport. What an adventure that was!

I bet. That was when Boston was a scary and dangerous place to drive through, too.

990 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:22:01am

Life is tough, but it’s tougher when you’re stupid.
— John Wayne

If true, I've had moments of incredible stupidity mixed in with portions of unbelievable brilliance.
Life is life...and no one gets out alive.

991 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:22:22am

re: #985 sattv4u2
Exactly.

992 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:22:24am

Notre Dame's Weis needs surgery on other knee, too

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

I wish Weis the best of health but it might also be a good idea if he looses like maybe 250 lbs also?

993 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:22:24am

re: #943 rightymouse
Ah just playing out here to celebrate my fifth year anniversary as an LGFer - Dec 13,2003!* Glad you're doing well!

*I think that's right - I'm pretty sure it was December with a "3" in it and know it wasn't the 23rd and it was before registration! LOL!

994 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:22:26am

re: #981 CapeCoddah

Getting in and out of Logan is not nearly as bad as it used to be, although I loved it when the Ted Williams tunnel was open to commercial traffic only. Since it opened to the public, it jams, when it never did during the big dig boondoggle.

Thats when I last live there (when the Ted was for commercial only. I, thankfully, had comm. plates on all my vehicles at the time)

995 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:22:30am

re: #985 sattv4u2

Tell the person saying that that if he/ she describes him/herself as informed/ smart/ good looking/ thin,,, etc etc doesn't make it so!

Now your getting personal!
/;-P

996 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:22:42am

re: #969 realwest

Ah Walter - this is a whole lot more than Emmanuel giving Blago's rep a list of Obama's recommendations - and we know that because Hot Rod said, on wiretap, that he wasn't getting anything for the appointment - and he was pissed off as if he expected to get something for the payoff.I'm not making anything up - just saying that the deeper the investigation goes, the more Obama looks like what he is: a product of the Chicago Machine. Period.
And please, don't make comparisons to what's been said out here to what gets said at Kos cause there ain't any comparisons at all.

Real, here's what we now know.

1) Bloggo spoke to someone in DC.
2) This person gave Bloggo a list of possible candidates
3) This person may have been Rahm
4) Bloggo wanted some cash for making an appointment, he got nast, mad, angry, cursing.
5) That's it.

We don't know if anyone of Obama's cabinet or advisors were wheeling and dealing with Bloggo.

The most we know right now is Bloggo may have recieved a list of possible candidates from Obama's office.

That's it. How in the world can you say anything more than that as FACT.

997 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:23:06am

re: #974 pingjockey

Nah, done that drive too many times to count. I-5 up here in Wa state is terrible. Asshats don't know how to merge! try to get on the freeway doing 50.

My Little Sister lives up your way... I like visiting her..plus my mom's family is from there..It is beautiful Country...

998 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:23:30am

re: #989 CapeCoddah

Hah! Yep, and the Combat Zone was still the Combat Zone.

999 VegasRick  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:23:40am

re: #987 goddessoftheclassroom

I think you're incredibly generous!

Seriously, speaking for myself, I am a professional. To be given a gift of money is like being given a tip, and that would make me feel uncomfortable.

A gift card, such as one to Amazon or a store (Staples or Bath and Body Works are also nice), would be a lovely gesture.

I also love "teacherish" gifts--ornaments, books, plaques, etc.

The BEST gift a student can give me is a letter telling me why he or she will remember me and my class. Knowing that I make a difference is why I do what I do. I put them in a "happy file" and pull them out every now and then.

Thanks for the advice. And that gives me a great idea for the Christmas cards as well.

1000 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:23:45am

Realwest, you have been around for some time. I nominate you to go and jump on the Great Lizards bed. Who will second?

1001 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:23:45am

re: #984 HoosierHoops

I like the Denver airport.. We fly Frontier..

Oh ,, don't get me wrong. It's a great airport. But the 1st time I went I made the mistake of booking a flight that was supposed to arrive 2 hours before a meeting I had in thr city, not realizing that the city was over an hour away

1002 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:24:17am

re: #968 vxbush

Well, better a mouse corpse than a cat corpse. The way mine go at it, you'd think they were playing for keeps!

OMG, absolutely! Two of my kitties are 15 and 14, so I cherish every day I have them.

Warning, Lizards: when they go to join Ceiling Cat, I will need LOTS of hugs.

1003 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:24:38am

re: #994 sattv4u2

Thats when I last live there (when the Ted was for commercial only. I, thankfully, had comm. plates on all my vehicles at the time)

I still use the haul road between the post offices huge brick complex and the new convention center. Best way in, still commercial only, and you don't have to go underground.

1004 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:24:42am

re: #992 nevergiveup

Notre Dame's Weis needs surgery on other knee, too

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

I wish Weis the best of health but it might also be a good idea if he looses like maybe 250 lbs also?

he treid that several years ago. Almost died from the gastric bypass surgery, IIRC

1005 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:24:43am

re: #974 pingjockey

Nah, done that drive too many times to count. I-5 up here in Wa state is terrible. Asshats don't know how to merge! try to get on the freeway doing 50.

My pet peeve...
The acceleration lane is for...
ACCELERATING!

1006 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:24:45am

re: #951 JCM
ROTFL! I gotta say that I think every state has a large contingent of drivers who could easily be called Marooons! LOL!
Folks down here see a few snowflakes and EVERYONE is off to buy batteries, canned food and the like! And they too drive as if it was really snowing hard! LOL!

1007 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:25:14am

re: #998 pingjockey

Hah! Yep, and the Combat Zone was still the Combat Zone.

LOL, That brings back lots of underage, fake ID bar stories!

1008 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:25:21am

re: #997 HoosierHoops
I am on the dry side of the Cascades. We get snow in the winter and T-storms in the summer. With the ocassional giant forest fire.

1009 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:25:28am

w00t first 1000.

1010 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:25:50am

re: #1001 sattv4u2

Oh ,, don't get me wrong. It's a great airport. But the 1st time I went I made the mistake of booking a flight that was supposed to arrive 2 hours before a meeting I had in thr city, not realizing that the city was over an hour away

Most of us in Denver just look at a trip to DIA as the same as making a trip to the Kansas border. We plan accordingly.

1011 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:26:08am

re: #954 goddessoftheclassroom Hey there {goddess} it's good to see you - mouse corpse as Christmas present - probably delivered, unwrapped, before Christmas!

1012 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:26:19am

re: #992 nevergiveup

Notre Dame's Weis needs surgery on other knee, too

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

I wish Weis the best of health but it might also be a good idea if he looses like maybe 250 lbs also?


Charlie needs to be replaced. If they dump him he walks away with over $4M guaranteed money.
His recruiting classes are rated high. That doesn't impress me, I could recruit for Notre Dame.
What happens to these kids when Weiss gets them?

1013 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:26:51am

re: #1010 Walter L. Newton

Most of us in Denver just look at a trip to DIA as the same as making a trip to the Kansas border. We plan accordingly.

hehehe ,, a case of your favorite beverage ,,, a picnic basket ,, a change of clothes !

1014 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:26:53am

re: #1007 CapeCoddah
St. Patricks Day 1983, 1984, 1985. Wore dress blues, never bought a beer!

1015 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:26:54am

The Jerusalem Counter Jihad conference will be this week. Will Vlaams Belang attend?
Far-right Belgian party Vlaams Belang says invited to Jerusalem meet

The leader of the Flemish far-right Vlaams Belang party said Thursday that MK Aryeh Eldad has invited him to an anti-Jihad conference in Jerusalem next year, though Eldad denies this.

According to Filip Dewinter, Eldad invited him to an event scheduled for March. The conference was planned as a follow-up event to an anti-Jihad summit which Professor Eldad is expected to open on Sunday in the capital.
...
Eldad said last month he would consider inviting Vlaams Belang to Jerusalem. "Theoretically, I would," he said when queried. "On paper, Vlaams Belang is so pro-Jewish it should chair the conference, but we're aware of its problematic aspects," he added. "Still, Israel is in a crucial struggle and can't be choosy with allies now." Eldad said he organized the event due to take place on Sunday because of this urgency.


Wow!

1016 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:27:05am

re: #1006 realwest

ROTFL! I gotta say that I think every state has a large contingent of drivers who could easily be called Marooons! LOL!
Folks down here see a few snowflakes and EVERYONE is off to buy batteries, canned food and the like! And they too drive as if it was really snowing hard! LOL!

I'll have to say the worst around here are the guys with big 4x4's.

Most definitely compensating for something.

1017 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:27:22am

re: #1009 Erik The Red
Yay Erik!

1018 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:27:23am

OH HELL. Hey all y'all - Dustoff-057 wants everyone to know he can no longer post or even raise LGF from work (at Boeing) cause there filters won't allow LGF in.

1019 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:27:26am

re: #1011 realwest

Hey there {goddess} it's good to see you - mouse corpse as Christmas present - probably delivered, unwrapped, before Christmas!

Because your cat loves you. And only wants to give you the best!

1020 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:27:34am

re: #1014 pingjockey

St. Patricks Day 1983, 1984, 1985. Wore dress blues, never bought a beer!

LOL, St. Patrick day is my birthday. I have never bought a beer either!

1021 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:28:25am

re: #1020 CapeCoddah

LOL, St. Patrick day is my birthday. I have never bought a beer either!

Ever do St Patricks Day in Southie!?!?

1022 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:28:26am

re: #1017 pingjockey

Yay Erik!

Drinks on me. What's your poison?

1023 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:28:44am

re: #1016 JCM
And they think a giant 4x4 makes them immune from sliding!

1024 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:29:08am

re: #1011 realwest

Hey there {goddess} it's good to see you - mouse corpse as Christmas present - probably delivered, unwrapped, before Christmas!

{realwest}!

I can deal with all sorts of icky things, but a mouse corpse FREAKS ME OUT!

I asked my Baby Lizard (age 13) to deal with one. He got a plastic grocery bag and tentatively approached it.
I said, "Why are you squeamish? You play Call of Duty and shoot people!"
He replied, "I don't put them in body bags."

1025 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:29:14am

re: #1001 sattv4u2

Oh ,, don't get me wrong. It's a great airport. But the 1st time I went I made the mistake of booking a flight that was supposed to arrive 2 hours before a meeting I had in thr city, not realizing that the city was over an hour away

LOL
Because i was born and raised in California..and most of the kids born there we travel all the time home... We have flown a million times through Denver and Dallas and have never once been in either city...not once..LOL
and yet the waitresses in the ESPN zone know me by my first name..
If Frontier ever cancels my frequent flyer miles I'm probably be the guy on the 6pm news holding myself hostage in the lobby of the airlines...
/

1026 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:29:33am

re: #1022 Erik The Red
Anything with alcohol except lite beer!

1027 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:29:36am

re: #1020 CapeCoddah

LOL, St. Patrick day is my birthday. I have never bought a beer either!

I have bought waaay too many...the 1/5th part of me that's Irish comes out like Darby O'Gill and the Little People every March 17th

1028 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:29:44am

re: #978 JCM

When I was growing up, and attended drivers ed, it was called 'Defensive
Driving'. I've since learned Offensive driving, and intermingle the 2...Cheers.

1029 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:29:46am

re: #1015 Killgore Trout

The Jerusalem Counter Jihad conference will be this week. Will Vlaams Belang attend?
Far-right Belgian party Vlaams Belang says invited to Jerusalem meet


Wow!

Eldad needs to do some basic research.

1030 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:29:48am

re: #1018 realwest

OH HELL. Hey all y'all - Dustoff-057 wants everyone to know he can no longer post or even raise LGF from work (at Boeing) cause there filters won't allow LGF in.

Yikes, he's at work on a Saturday? Poor guy! He needs to complain about the blockage. It's happened before, and each time LGF has been unblocked by several of the big filtering companies.

1031 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:30:00am

re: #1015 Killgore Trout

The Jerusalem Counter Jihad conference will be this week. Will Vlaams Belang attend?
Far-right Belgian party Vlaams Belang says invited to Jerusalem meet

"Still, Israel is in a crucial struggle and can't be choosy with allies now."

Wow!

Sort of how Poland got all that help from Russia!

1032 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:30:09am

re: #972 Desert Dog
Yep but even walking you have to be careful, cause in NYC - not just Manhattan - drivers see a yellow light and think it means SPEED UP!

1033 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:30:11am

Rahm Emanuel talked with governor's office about who should fill Obama's Senate seat

By Bob Secter

Rahm Emanuel, President-elect Barack Obama's pick to be White House chief of staff, had conversations with Gov. Rod Blagojevich's administration about who would replace Obama in the U.S. Senate, the Tribune has learned.

The revelation does not suggest Obama's new gatekeeper was involved in any talk of dealmaking involving the seat. But it does help fill in the gaps surrounding a question that Obama was unable or unwilling to answer this week: Did anyone on his staff have contact with Blagojevich about his choice for the Senate seat?

1034 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:30:34am

Got to run.

Later.

1035 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:30:41am

re: #1024 goddessoftheclassroom

{realwest}!

I can deal with all sorts of icky things, but a mouse corpse FREAKS ME OUT!

I asked my Baby Lizard (age 13) to deal with one. He got a plastic grocery bag and tentatively approached it.
I said, "Why are you squeamish? You play Call of Duty and shoot people!"
He replied, "I don't put them in body bags."

No ways. LOL

1036 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:30:49am

re: #1028 Pietr

When I was growing up, and attended drivers ed, it was called 'Defensive
Driving'. I've since learned Offensive driving, and intermingle the 2...Cheers.

I drive paranoid...
They are all out to get me.

Been in 2 collisions in my life. Both times hit when I was sitting still.

1037 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:30:53am

re: #1030 vxbush
I had to work Sunday, Dec. 7. WAS NOT happy.

1038 Desert Dog  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:31:16am

re: #1032 realwest

Speed up? In Mahattan? You sit so long at some of those lights, your tires start sprouting roots

1039 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:31:49am

re: #1032 realwest
That is everywhere in the driving world I think.

1040 pingjockey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:32:08am

BBL!

1041 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:32:19am

re: #982 vxbush

LOL! Yes, but we would show you great respect.

I want a good burial.

1042 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:32:20am

re: #1026 pingjockey

Anything with alcohol except lite beer!

Lite beer is NOT alcohol. Single malt do you well. On the rocks?

1043 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:32:23am

re: #977 MandyManners

What is the survival ratio for we hatchlings, or average to lizard-hood? Does anyone have a stat?

1044 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:32:23am

re: #1025 HoosierHoops

LOL
Because i was born and raised in California..and most of the kids born there we travel all the time home... We have flown a million times through Denver and Dallas and have never once been in either city...not once..LOL
and yet the waitresses in the ESPN zone know me by my first name..
If Frontier ever cancels my frequent flyer miles I'm probably be the guy on the 6pm news holding myself hostage in the lobby of the airlines...
/

too bad...Denver is a great town...cant say the same for Dallas tho

1045 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:32:45am

re: #1033 3 wood

Rahm Emanuel talked with governor's office about who should fill Obama's Senate seat

Hey Realwest. This article makes my point. We have NO FURTHER info that Rahm was doing anything WRONG. Even the feds have said he is NOT UNDER INVESTIGATION.

ANd we have NO info from the transcripts what ANYONE in the Obama camp was wheeling and dealing.

We can't sit her an MAKE UP shit. That's what the KOSKIDS do, not us, period.

1046 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:32:57am

re: #983 pingjockey
I know that my friend, it was some other folk I was thinking about.

1047 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:33:08am

re: #1021 sattv4u2

Ever do St Patricks Day in Southie!?!?

NO, I really am not a drinker, the bar thing was fun when I was 16-18, then It lost its appeal, and I would rather be boiled in oil than go partying at a bar. My husband's birthday is the day before, he is Irish, I am Italian and I got the 17th! We do the nearest weekend to our birthday at the Wildcat Inn in NH. most every year. A bit more subdued and a lot more romantic than Southie!

1048 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:33:11am

re: #1037 pingjockey

I had to work Sunday, Dec. 7. WAS NOT happy.

Do the Japanese get that day off?

1049 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:33:58am

em>re: #993 realwest

Ah just playing out here to celebrate my fifth year anniversary as an LGFer - Dec 13,2003!* Glad you're doing well!

*I think that's right - I'm pretty sure it was December with a "3" in it and know it wasn't the 23rd and it was before registration! LOL!

Good for you!

I found LGF in 2004 during Rathergate, and registered in 2005, I think.

/could have checked my avatar/account.

1050 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:34:35am

re: #1030 vxbush

re: #1037 pingjockey

I had to work Sunday, Dec. 7. WAS NOT happy.

wimp,,, I worked this Thanksgiving from noon till midnight. I worked last Christmas day from 10 am till 10 pm. I work for a communications company that broadcasts satellite and fiber optic TV signals 24/7. FCC mandates that we have to be staffed 24/7. There are 5 of us (excluding the manager and chief engineer who puts in 60 hours a week and is on call all other times)

YOU do the staffing math!

1051 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:35:03am

re: #1045 Walter L. Newton

Hey Realwest. This article makes my point. We have NO FURTHER info that Rahm was doing anything WRONG. Even the feds have said he is NOT UNDER INVESTIGATION.

ANd we have NO info from the transcripts what ANYONE in the Obama camp was wheeling and dealing.

We can't sit her an MAKE UP shit. That's what the KOSKIDS do, not us, period.

we speculate as opposed to KOS who tend to deceive themselves into a drooling stupor...jus sayin

1052 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:35:03am

re: #1049 rightymouse

em>re: #993 realwest

Good for you!

I found LGF in 2004 during Rathergate, and registered in 2005, I think.

/could have checked my avatar/account.

That's when I found LGF, too! I registered Sept. 10, 2004. At the time I didn't appreciate how tricky registration could be!

1053 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:35:05am

re: #988 3 wood
Davd Axelrod, Barack Obama, Rahm Emauel. Gee ya know I'm not from Chicago and those names seem to ring a bell with me!

1054 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:35:35am

If I do say so myself, I just made the most killer Blackberry Pie known to man.
Will post pic when I get it out of oven.
There is something glorious about a pie crust that doesnt tear!

1055 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:36:27am

re: #1054 Wishing

If I do say so myself, I just made the most killer Blackberry Pie known to man.
Will post pic when I get it out of oven.
There is something glorious about a pie crust that doesnt tear!

Why would we want a picture of your oven?

1056 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:36:49am

re: #1054 Wishing

If I do say so myself, I just made the most killer Blackberry Pie known to man.
Will post pic when I get it out of oven.
There is something glorious about a pie crust that doesnt tear!

Can you email a piece?

1057 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:36:50am

re: #1054 Wishing

If I do say so myself, I just made the most killer Blackberry Pie known to man.
Will post pic when I get it out of oven.
There is something glorious about a pie crust that doesnt tear!

*drool*

Where are you? Heading for the car!

1058 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:37:08am

re: #1051 albusteve

we speculate as opposed to KOS who tend to deceive themselves into a drooling stupor...jus sayin

Sorry, we've had people this morning make statement that Obama and his team was involved in wrong doing as if it were FACT. I'm not sitting here making something up just for the shits and giggles.

You check up thread, see my other comments and the quotes.

1059 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:37:19am

re: #990 IslandLibertarian

I kinda liked Denis Leary's : "Life is tough - Get a helmet." My students will finish that for me if I give 'em the lead in - LOL!

1060 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:37:39am

re: #1055 sattv4u2

Why would we want a picture of your oven?

LOL trust me you don't!

1061 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:37:45am

re: #1057 JCM

*drool*

Where are you? Heading for the car!

I will beat you in my plane.

1062 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:38:11am

re: #1050 sattv4u2

re: #1037 pingjockey

wimp,,, I worked this Thanksgiving from noon till midnight. I worked last Christmas day from 10 am till 10 pm. I work for a communications company that broadcasts satellite and fiber optic TV signals 24/7. FCC mandates that we have to be staffed 24/7. There are 5 of us (excluding the manager and chief engineer who puts in 60 hours a week and is on call all other times)

YOU do the staffing math!

Satt: I'll be pissed off at you if you don't run out right now and get a grey/white/yellow Beemer..Just do it..You work too many hours..
/ i say go for the yellow...women think only a stud would have a yellow beemer..and you look good in it.

1063 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:38:27am

re: #1060 Wishing

LOL trust me you don't!

And what are you doing IN your oven?

1064 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:38:28am

re: #1037 pingjockey

I had to work Sunday, Dec. 7. WAS NOT happy.

So sorry! I feel for you.

1065 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:38:38am

re: #1029 MandyManners

Eldad needs to do some basic research.


He says he's "aware of its problematic aspects" but he doesn't care. Very sad.

1066 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:38:42am

re: #1057 JCM

*drool*

Where are you? Heading for the car!

I am in Tennessee, but I apologize, this is headed to the Annual Sheriff's Department Christmas Party.

1067 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:39:14am

re: #1002 goddessoftheclassroom

OMG, absolutely! Two of my kitties are 15 and 14, so I cherish every day I have them.

Warning, Lizards: when they go to join Ceiling Cat, I will need LOTS of hugs.

You'll be sure to get them! Its the least we can do!

{goddess}

1068 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:39:27am

re: #1052 goddessoftheclassroom

That's when I found LGF, too! I registered Sept. 10, 2004. At the time I didn't appreciate how tricky registration could be!

When I left the Dem party after 9/11, I was thrilled to find a forum of people I could relate to factully/philosophically/intellectually.

1069 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:39:29am

re: #831 Killian Bundy

Union-founded nonprofit spent zero on its charitable purpose in two years

SEIU, SEIU, why does that union sound familiar? Oh yeah . . .

/Blagojevich and Union Have Longstanding Ties

SEIU is Dennis Rivera's union in NY. Pataki mortgaged the state to pay off the union. Expect huge transfers to "Health Care" meaning the regulated and unionized "Health" industry. This group is hand and glove in with ACORN, Working Families.

1070 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:39:41am

re: #1063 Walter L. Newton

And what are you doing IN your oven?

Some things are best left unsaid...

1071 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:39:50am

re: #1066 Wishing

I am in Tennessee, but I apologize, this is headed to the Annual Sheriff's Department Christmas Party.

You are a cruel person you do know that?
/

Have a good time!

1072 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:40:03am

re: #1062 HoosierHoops

Satt: I'll be pissed off at you if you don't run out right now and get a grey/white/yellow Beemer..Just do it..You work too many hours..
/ i say go for the yellow...women think only a stud would have a yellow beemer..and you look good in it.

Wifey would strangle me in my sleep. We already have 5 vehicles and there are only the two licensed drivers in the house plus my 14 year old son, who can get his permit next year

1073 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:40:07am

PIMF!

"factually", not 'factully"...

/gahhh!

1074 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:40:13am

Life is tough, but it’s tougher when you’re stupid.

Paging Barack Obama . . .

1075 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:40:20am

re: #1065 Killgore Trout

He says he's "aware of its problematic aspects" but he doesn't care. Very sad.

No, actually, that's what he said last month. Since then he's been convinced otherwise. Vlaams Belang is not going to be at the conference, unless my sources are completely mistaken -- and I don't think they are.

DeWinter is trying to whine his way back in.

1076 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:40:29am

re: #1058 Walter L. Newton

Sorry, we've had people this morning make statement that Obama and his team was involved in wrong doing as if it were FACT. I'm not sitting here making something up just for the shits and giggles.

You check up thread, see my other comments and the quotes.

a few...I know it...they forget or dont know the first basic tenant at LGF...fact check his ass...it has to work both ways...BOs clean at the moment so far as I can tell...

1077 VegasRick  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:40:53am

re: #1037 pingjockey

I had to work Sunday, Dec. 7. WAS NOT happy.

Dec 7, 1941 according to rev. racist, the day we bombed Japan to end WWII. What a maroon!

1078 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:41:29am

re: #1066 Wishing

I am in Tennessee, but I apologize, this is headed to the Annual Sheriff's Department Christmas Party.

Can we debate who wants it more? Not deserves it more but wants it.

1079 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:41:36am

re: #1061 Erik The Red

I will beat you in my plane.

teleport you fool!...hurry!

1080 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:41:39am

re: #1077 VegasRick

Dec 7, 1941 according to rev. racist, the day we bombed Japan to end WWII. What a maroon!

Wow. Shortest war . . . EVER!

1081 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:41:46am

re: #1076 albusteve

a few...I know it...they forget or dont know the first basic tenant at LGF...fact check his ass...it has to work both ways...BOs clean at the moment so far as I can tell...

Well we know he is clean. Biden told us he was!

1082 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:42:50am

re: #1079 albusteve

teleport you fool!...hurry!

Have you tried a "tesseract"?

1083 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:42:51am

re: #1075 Charles


No, actually, that's what he said last month. Since then he's been convinced otherwise. Vlaams Belang is not going to be at the conference, unless my sources are completely mistaken -- and I don't think they are.


Good news. The article was unclear if he would be attending this week's conference.

1084 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:43:00am

re: #1078 Erik The Red

Can we debate who wants it more? Not deserves it more but wants it.

Well debate is so LGF, why not!

1085 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:43:02am

My husband is being fantastic again: he's gone to get the groceries because the weather is so icky outside. We were going to make it a family trip today to get the son out of the house, but he thought better of it.

Such a sweetie.

1086 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:43:14am

re: #1081 nevergiveup

Well we know he is clean. Biden told us he was!

and good smelling...and what else...decent teeth?...
Biden is a crackpot...

1087 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:43:16am

Crooked Socialist Politician Fact:

If anyone here remembers Spain's first "democratically" elected Socialist leader, Felipe Gonzalez--he's just moved into the toniest, richest, sexiest most exclusive neighborhood in Madrid! The Barrio Salamanca is like Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills--where millionaire socialists hang out.

Yep, from street thug to Living Large--you bet it's with other people's money. What a bunch of confiscatory pigs these leftists are.

We're supposed to believe these friends of Fidel Castro are "of the people" and "for the people", but they're filthy rich "off the people." Mr. Gonzalez had his snout in Spain's trough for 13.5 long socialist years.

1088 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:43:47am

re: #1082 hermit

Have you tried a "tesseract"?

is that like teleovision?

1089 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:43:51am

re: #1084 Wishing

Well debate is so LGF, why not!

If you can bribe me with enough chocolate, you can have my piece. Let the bidding begin!

1090 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:44:12am

re: #1072 sattv4u2

Wifey would strangle me in my sleep. We already have 5 vehicles and there are only the two licensed drivers in the house plus my 14 year old son, who can get his permit next year

LOL
our 16 yr old has had a truck since summer..He is always gone somewhere..And he is our yongest..So his rothers and Sisters cover for him all the time..He could be in Cleveland this weekend or playing video games in his room.
I was the same way..but i better not catch him *wink*

1091 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:44:14am

re: #1089 vxbush

If you can bribe me with enough chocolate, you can have my piece. Let the bidding begin!

Paging Governor Blago!

1092 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:44:15am

re: #1075 Charles

Good morning from S. Africa Charles.

1093 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:45:01am

re: #1076 albusteve

BOs clean at the moment so far as I can tell...

Snort.
Try not exposed as complicit in this scandal and you may have something.

Rahm is the bagman, he could flip and give up BHO, it won't happen IMHO, Rezko gave up Blago to protect Daley and BHO, Rahm may have helped Fitzpatrick set Blago up, Jackson Jr. is collateral but to BHO welcome damage. Watch what happens to Blago's wife.

1094 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:45:13am

re: #1076 albusteve

a few...I know it...they forget or dont know the first basic tenant at LGF...fact check his ass...it has to work both ways...BOs clean at the moment so far as I can tell...

Right. And it was those few comments I was referencing. LGF is pretty well self-monitored, and we do a good job of not coming across as raving moonbats, but we must keep vigilant.

And that's been my point all the way down thread. Obama may have been hush mouthed about this, even though he knew something was up, but so far, nothing points to any actual wrong doing on anyones part in his camp.

And the flip side of this, there may be actual people in the Obama camp that was working with the feds. That's a supposition that we can make.

We don't want egg on our face.

1095 [deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:45:31am
1096 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:45:35am

re: #1082 hermit

Have you tried a "tesseract"?

I was going to build one, but I ran out of dimensions...

1097 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:45:40am

re: #1077 VegasRick

Dec 7, 1941 according to rev. racist, the day we bombed Japan to end WWII. What a maroon!

What an Ignoraminous

1098 VegasRick  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:45:55am

re: #1086 albusteve

and good smelling...and what else...decent teeth?...
Biden is a crackpot...

"Stand up Chuck!" "Let em' see ya"
Ummm... ohh...ummm...nevermind
LOL!

1099 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:46:05am

re: #996 Walter L. Newton
Enough Walter - seriously - go look at the link I gave you to one of my comments; it was in response to a Chicago Tribune article TODAY that Rahm Emmanuel had several conversations with someone representing Blago over whom Obama wanted to see get his Senate seat. It was after that, that on the wiretap, Blago was cursing like a sailor about not getting anything in return for the appointment. Maybe the Chicago Tribune is wrong. Certainly possible. Maybe Emmanuel DIDN'T talk to anyone repersenting Blago, but Blago most certainly was bitching and moaning that he wasn't getting anything for filling that Senate Seat and he was bitching and moaning about not getting anything AFTER those conversations were, according to the Tribune, held with Emmanuel.
Those are the "facts" as best we know them. As I said, the Chicago Tribune could be wrong. Emmanuel may never have spoken to anyone representing Blago. Maybe Blago made the whole thing up out of thin air.

1100 Maximu§  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:46:20am

Hey hey everyone.

1101 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:46:26am

re: #1088 albusteve

tesseract, a fifth dimensional concept which is explained as being similar to folding the fabric of space and time.

1102 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:46:50am

re: #1085 vxbush

My husband is being fantastic again: he's gone to get the groceries because the weather is so icky outside. We were going to make it a family trip today to get the son out of the house, but he thought better of it.

Such a sweetie.

Not to rub it in/ 80 here sitting by the pool drinking good scotch.

1103 Karridine  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:47:15am
"... on the first day of Christmas, the advertising's there..."

"Wake up, Cratchet! Its later than you think!"


/and today, FIFTY YEARS later than even THAT!
Stan Freberg zero'd right in on the Greening of Christmas...

"We keep hoping you'll remember... Whose BIRTHDAY we're celebrating... but you never do..."

1104 [deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:48:28am
1105 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:49:12am

re: #1024 goddessoftheclassroom ROTFLMAO! "I don't put them in body bags!" LOL!

1106 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:49:17am

re: #1102 Erik The Red

Not to rub it in/ 80 here sitting by the pool drinking good scotch.

Just box it up in a waterproof container and ship it here, 'mkay?

1107 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:49:52am

re: #1058 Walter L. Newton

Unwind Walter, Please. I know I'm a HATCHLING, but have been a lurker since Rathergate-only recently registered. But the Lizards here do speculate-unlike Kos and Moveon (b4 they cleaned up)-they don't go all rabid and claim things are fact-and then start making threats. Breathe, then remember-this is LGF...and you're talking with kindred spirits that are capable of rational thought. just my $.02...Cheers.

1108 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:49:59am

re: #1093 lifeofthemind

Snort.
Try not exposed as complicit in this scandal and you may have something.

Rahm is the bagman, he could flip and give up BHO, it won't happen IMHO, Rezko gave up Blago to protect Daley and BHO, Rahm may have helped Fitzpatrick set Blago up, Jackson Jr. is collateral but to BHO welcome damage. Watch what happens to Blago's wife.

right but non of that is iced yet...we have to wait for it to play out

1109 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:50:24am

re: #1095 ploome hineni

YOU jumped on the sensational


That's because there is no conference next year. It's this week. The article was unclear.

1110 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:50:57am

re: #1069 lifeofthemind

SEIU is Dennis Rivera's union in NY. Pataki mortgaged the state to pay off the union. Expect huge transfers to "Health Care" meaning the regulated and unionized "Health" industry. This group is hand and glove in with ACORN, Working Families.

* * *
SEIU President Andy Stern sounds like a creep in a recent interview in the Wall Street Journal. How these unions make billions off latino office cleaners' salaries, which SEIU funnels to democrats, is such a mystery!

Latino SEIU members were sent to protest outside John McCain's condo in Crystal City, Virginia, asking for one of "his" houses--remember when his wife, beer-heiress Cindy's rental properties, ranch and beach condos were "news"? This was BIG NEWS in WashingtonPost's Spanish language papers they give out free to non-English speakers who vote in elections.

1111 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:50:58am

re: #1030 vxbush
NO - I screwed up and was supposed to post that yesterday and I just forgot to do so!
Crap.

1112 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:51:01am

re: #1099 realwest

Enough Walter - seriously - go look at the link I gave you to one of my comments; it was in response to a Chicago Tribune article TODAY that Rahm Emmanuel had several conversations with someone representing Blago over whom Obama wanted to see get his Senate seat. It was after that, that on the wiretap, Blago was cursing like a sailor about not getting anything in return for the appointment. Maybe the Chicago Tribune is wrong. Certainly possible. Maybe Emmanuel DIDN'T talk to anyone repersenting Blago, but Blago most certainly was bitching and moaning that he wasn't getting anything for filling that Senate Seat and he was bitching and moaning about not getting anything AFTER those conversations were, according to the Tribune, held with Emmanuel.
Those are the "facts" as best we know them. As I said, the Chicago Tribune could be wrong. Emmanuel may never have spoken to anyone representing Blago. Maybe Blago made the whole thing up out of thin air.

Have you really been reading my comments? I was the first to post here this morning that it was coming down that Rahm had spoken to Blaggo.

But so far, Rahm did nothing wrong, nothing that we know of, nothing that we have been given privy information to, nothing that the feds will even allude to (the feds said Rahm's not part of the criminal investigation).

So, what more do you want?

We can make a supposition that Rahm was WORKING WITH THE FEDS. Boy, will you look stupid if that's the case.

1113 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:51:30am

re: #1077 VegasRick

Dec 7, 1941 according to rev. racist, the day we bombed Japan to end WWII. What a maroon!

1114 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:51:44am

re: #1111 realwest

NO - I screwed up and was supposed to post that yesterday and I just forgot to do so!
Crap.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification. But it still sucks he can't see LGF at work.

1115 FrogMarch  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:51:51am

re: #1085 vxbush

good news. You don't have to send your hubby here:

[Link: bewareofthedoghouse.com...]

;-)

1116 FrogMarch  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:52:09am

re: #1104 ploome hineni

you make me laugh writing about "we"

were you elected to some position here?

Thank you.

1117 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:52:21am

Moving upthread...

1118 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:52:35am

re: #1104 ploome hineni

you make me laugh writing about "we"
were you elected to some position here?

No, and you are correct, I should have not used the global "we." There is obviously others here that don't agree with my position.

Sorry.

1119 [deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:52:53am
1120 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:53:14am

re: #1101 hermit

tesseract, a fifth dimensional concept which is explained as being similar to folding the fabric of space and time.

I'm not good at metaphysical orogamy...but I twist a pretty good joint!...does that count for anything?

1121 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:54:35am

re: #1104 ploome hineni

you make me laugh writing about "we"

were you elected to some position here?

re: #1116 FrogMarch

Sorry, but I didn;'t see anything wrong with Walter using the term "WE". In context, he is correct. "WE" lizards do a good job of self monitoring, IMHO.

1122 Karridine  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:54:45am

re: #1051 albusteve

we speculate as opposed to KOS who tend to deceive themselves into a drooling stupor...jus sayin

Kos Kidz LOVE to dial 1-900-REALITY

1123 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:54:45am

re: #1116 FrogMarch

Thank you.

See my apology in 1114.

1124 [deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:54:46am
1125 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:54:47am

re: #1098 VegasRick

"Stand up Chuck!" "Let em' see ya"
Ummm... ohh...ummm...nevermind
LOL!

I'm gonna steal that one day!...a classic

1126 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:55:05am

re: #1058 Walter L. Newton
Point out ONE comment of mine where I said that
Obama and his team was involved in wrong doing.

1127 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:55:32am

re: #1120 albusteve

I'm not good at metaphysical orogamy...but I twist a pretty good joint!...does that count for anything?

let's see, could count 3 to 6...or 5 to 10 - depending on what you're doing when you get busted. :P!

1128 [deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:55:57am
1129 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:55:58am

re: #1124 ploome hineni

we are not trying for groupthink here Walter..

your own position is presented FORCEFULLY enough

lol

you make me laugh writing about "we"

were you elected to some position here?

I know ,,, I'm an ass!

1130 Maximu§  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:56:04am

re: #1112 Walter L. Newton

Have you really been reading my comments? I was the first to post here this morning that it was coming down that Rahm had spoken to Blaggo.

But so far, Rahm did nothing wrong, nothing that we know of, nothing that we have been given privy information to, nothing that the feds will even allude to (the feds said Rahm's not part of the criminal investigation).

So, what more do you want?

We can make a supposition that Rahm was WORKING WITH THE FEDS. Boy, will you look stupid if that's the case.

What more do we want?

How about some of that "Change" Obama promised? Rahm should be front-and-center answering questions and promising to get to the bottom of this scandal, but his silence speaks volumes.

1131 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:56:06am

re: #1124 ploome hineni

we are not trying for groupthink here Walter..

your own position is presented FORCEFULLY enough

lol

Ok, I noted my mistake and made an apology. It's typical of you not to let it lay at that! You had to get in the last word. Fine.

1132 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:57:08am

re: #1122 Karridine

Kos Kidz LOVE to dial 1-900-REALITY

the Twilight Zone reservation hotline...

1133 [deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:57:09am
1134 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:57:57am

re: #938 hermit

Wish more of us did. It reminds me of OTS, when somebody wasn't meeting the character standards, the phrase was: "Not in MY Air Force"

IMnsHO - it's the profoundly overlooked BELONGING level of Maslow's hierarchy, you remember, the one before ESTEEM? Belonging is the level where you submit to accountability...too much focus on esteem these days.

Physiological/Safety/Belonging/Esteem/Self-Actuali zation

We are taught to behave and treat others by example.

I know one gal at work who goes to church every week and she has said loudly (very loudly) on more than one occasion that she does so 'to feel good about herself'. She treats most people at work like dirt except those she 'thinks' she can benefit by. I can only presume she looks at God and the cloak of religion the same way.

1135 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:57:58am

re: #1126 realwest

Point out ONE comment of mine where I said that
Obama and his team was involved in wrong doing.

My original thought in this direction was some Lizards were stating some things about Rahm as if it were known facts.

You backed them up.

I never said you made the original statements.

1136 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:58:40am

re: #1133 ploome hineni

so when Walter uses the 'we' again, he means you and him, right?

Perhaps. Or maybe on the point that's being discussed. YOU and him, with me dissennting. Mayber it's you, he and I, with Charles opposite. Or perhaps it's you and Charles, with Walter and myself as "WE"

1137 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:59:01am

re: #1054 Wishing

If I do say so myself, I just made the most killer Blackberry Pie known to man.

Nice, but I prefer iPhone Layer Cake.

1138 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:59:08am

re: #1101 hermit

tesseract, a fifth dimensional concept which is explained as being similar to folding the fabric of space and time.

I read A Wrinkle in Time when it first came out, was going to post the link myself.

1139 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:59:33am

re: #1130 Maximu§

What more do we want?

How about some of that "Change" Obama promised? Rahm should be front-and-center answering questions and promising to get to the bottom of this scandal, but his silence speaks volumes.

What if the fucking feds told him to keep his mouth SHUT. Isn't that possible? I'm sorry. I'm not going to go any further trying to pin anything on anyone unless I have the facts.

1140 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:59:58am

re: #1127 hermit

let's see, could count 3 to 6...or 5 to 10 - depending on what you're doing when you get busted. :P!

I live in albuquerque...at the most they make you share

1141 [deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:00:18am
1142 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:00:32am

re: #1080 Wyatt Earp

Wow. Shortest war . . . EVER!

Actually, this is the shortest war ever. 40 minutes, more or less.

1143 realwest  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:01:55am

Well I'm outta here y'all - it's been an interesting and educational day for me so far - always is on LGF!
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

1144 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:01:59am

re: #1136 sattv4u2

Perhaps. Or maybe on the point that's being discussed. YOU and him, with me dissennting. Mayber it's you, he and I, with Charles opposite. Or perhaps it's you and Charles, with Walter and myself as "WE"

so We's on first?...

1145 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:02:15am

re: #1129 sattv4u2

I know ,,, I'm an ass!

Much Ado Act iv sc 2

"Dost thou not suspect my place? Dost thou not suspect my years? O that he were here to write me down an ass! but, masters, remember that I am an ass; though it be not written down, yet forget not that I am an ass."

1146 lincolntf  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:02:53am

t wearing any Judicial robes, nor am I on any jury, so I CAN state what I think should happen without "absolute proof".
Here's what has happened thus far (as far as anyone knows): Obama claimed he (sometimes "we", meaning his advisors) had no contact with Blago. Wiretaps show some contact. A two-hour conversation apparently took place discussing the issue. Rahm won't speak to the press, Rahm has been caught up in a fraudulent charity deal, Rahm is still part of (the number one guy, actually) Obama's team. Whether or not I ever hear a word of the tapes, I've seen enough dirty politics in MA to recognize it in Illinois.
How this plays out is anyone's guess, but I would think that the LEAST likely scenario is that Emanuel was helping the Feds. At least until the day before the story broke and Obama;'s pick for the seat took herself out of the running (happy coincidence or CYA?)

1147 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:37am

re: #1139 Walter L. Newton

And your last point was VERY important-probably in the back of your mind all along-but you have only now typed/vocalized it for peeps. Point made-Spot on. Any arguments, fellow Hatchlings/ Lizards? I rest my case...Cheers.

1148 Maximu§  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:05:54am

re: #1139 Walter L. Newton

What if the fucking feds told him to keep his mouth SHUT. Isn't that possible? I'm sorry. I'm not going to go any further trying to pin anything on anyone unless I have the facts.

I have some breaking news for you, Rahm and his team ARE the Fed's! No one is going to tell them to STFU. Right now, they are looking for a way to spin this whole cluster-Fuk and take the spotlight off of the Obama team. Thats why Obama asked the Ill. Gov. to step down so quickly before an investigation was even complete.

1149 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:06:02am

re: #1146 lincolntf

I'd be more shocked his Obama's Staffers had not been in contact with Blogo's staff...Pretty routine i would think in politics..Appointments.
To rule out contact to me seems fishy..We expect staffer contact

1150 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:06:11am

re: #1147 Pietr

And your last point was VERY important-probably in the back of your mind all along-but you have only now typed/vocalized it for peeps. Point made-Spot on. Any arguments, fellow Hatchlings/ Lizards? I rest my case...Cheers.

Well, thank you. I did make that point up thread, but maybe some missed it.

1151 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:06:14am

O that I had been writ down an ass! [Exeunt.]

1152 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:08:55am

re: #1147 Pietr

And your last point was VERY important-probably in the back of your mind all along-but you have only now typed/vocalized it for peeps. Point made-Spot on. Any arguments, fellow Hatchlings/ Lizards? I rest my case...Cheers.

We know that the feds have been looking into Blaggo for many months. After the election, this may have been there next move in the investigation.

re: #1148 Maximu§

I have some breaking news for you, Rahm and his team ARE the Fed's! No one is going to tell them to STFU. Right now, they are looking for a way to spin this whole cluster-Fuk and take the spotlight off of the Obama team. Thats why Obama asked the Ill. Gov. to step down so quickly before an investigation was even complete.

The feds started this a LONG time before Obama was elected. They have had their eye on Blaggo for many months.

1153 lincolntf  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:10:04am

re: #1149 HoosierHoops

Exactly. Why deny something that could very well be innocent? If Obama/Rahm/spokespeople had done nothing wrong, they'd probably say "Yup, we asked him to carefully consider some potential replacements who we believe can serve the State of Illinois well and honorably." Or some other pap like that.
The blanket denial (quickly altered to a non-denial) is a red flag that anyone can see.

1154 Karridine  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:11:35am

re: #1122 Karridine

Sorry 'bout that... link from memory, missed the subdirectory, missed the window of opportunity, I'll share it later, IF appropriate...


Might be HERE...
(Right-Click and "Save File as..." to share with friends & foes, OR click link and listen now!)

1155 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:11:42am

re: #1148 Maximu§

I don't down ding-I do refute. The One and his team are NOT the Fed yet-that still belongs to GWB. Saying differently, is putting us on Par with Chavezs' Government...And I didn't serve to protect that. Think thru your words when implying the country I served is a 3rd world dictatorship1

1156 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:13:11am

re: #1153 lincolntf

Exactly. Why deny something that could very well be innocent? If Obama/Rahm/spokespeople had done nothing wrong, they'd probably say "Yup, we asked him to carefully consider some potential replacements who we believe can serve the State of Illinois well and honorably." Or some other pap like that.
The blanket denial (quickly altered to a non-denial) is a red flag that anyone can see.

You know what is nice? They have the tapes.. Get out the popcorn...We don't know what the staffers were saying..But I'll bet a trillion dollars they were talking.

1157 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:15:10am

re: #1155 Pietr

I don't down ding-I do refute. The One and his team are NOT the Fed yet-that still belongs to GWB. Saying differently, is putting us on Par with Chavezs' Government...And I didn't serve to protect that. Think thru your words when implying the country I served is a 3rd world dictatorship1

It appear to me that I am seeing the beginnings of Obama Derangement Syndrome here on LGF.

1158 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:17:12am

re: #1156 HoosierHoops

And I think Walter would make this point, but I'll do it-The One does nothing without researching and scripting;so all of his peeps are on zipperlip, until he reveals what he will. Obviously, some peeps haven't paid attention to the Ones' campaign and style. Aargh...

1159 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:17:47am

re: #1157 Walter L. Newton

It appear to me that I am seeing the beginnings of Obama Derangement Syndrome here on LGF.

I'm manning up Walter.. I turned on an inconvenient truth by Al Gore..
/Didn't feel like watching Temple play ball..
//report later.I've never seen it

1160 AuntAcid  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:18:48am

“For every minute you are angry you lose sixty seconds of happiness.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson

1161 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:20:38am

re: #1160 AuntAcid

“For every minute you are angry you lose sixty seconds of happiness.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson

I like your attitude

1162 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:20:45am

re: #1157 Walter L. Newton

Was that directed at me, Walter? I'm waiting to see what BO will do-and hoping for the best. I'm just afraid that my record for wishin' and gettin' will continue...:>(

1163 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:22:10am

Moving upthread-->

1164 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:23:26am

re: #1162 Pietr

Was that directed at me, Walter? I'm waiting to see what BO will do-and hoping for the best. I'm just afraid that my record for wishin' and gettin' will continue...:>(

No, that was in support of what you were saying, I was adding to your thoughts. Sorry.

1165 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:29:29am

re: #1164 Walter L. Newton

From our previous interchanges, I truly believed that was what you meant. But most peeps won't click upthread thru the quoted links, so to them it would seem you were downing me. I've started posting all references in certain replies-just to ensure peeps know what I meant. My first experience with down dings could've been fatal...but wasn't...LOL.

1166 FrogMarch  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:54:23am

re: #1121 sattv4u2

re: #1116 FrogMarch

Sorry, but I didn;'t see anything wrong with Walter using the term "WE". In context, he is correct. "WE" lizards do a good job of self monitoring, IMHO.

It's not the subject matter, it's the holier than thou annoyance factor.

1167 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:12:11am

re: #1166 FrogMarch

From reading upthread-I don't see Walter using the Royal 'We', and didn't notice a holier than thou attitude. If you saw differently, it's your opinion. IMHO, H_P, had the same vision. But I'd say that most LGF Lizards have a certain set of values/morals/philosophy that make them a tight knit group. It doesn't mean they don't differ/argue-but they do generally seem to be of a 'special' mindset, shall I phrase it. Just MHO...


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