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Mugabe Accuses US of 'Biological War'

World | Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:45:30 am PST

In the failed dictatorship of Zimbabwe (a dictatorship whose existence can be blamed largely on Jimmy Carter), Robert Mugabe is blaming the US for outbreaks of cholera.

HARARE, Zimbabwe – The Zimbabwean government on Saturday accused the West of deliberately starting the country’s cholera epidemic, stepping up a war of words with the regime’s critics as the humanitarian crisis deepened.

The state-run Herald newspaper said comments by the U.S. ambassador that the U.S. had been preparing for the outbreak raised suspicions the West had waged “serious biological chemical war.”

Zimbabwean officials often blame their country’s troubles on the West. Their stranglehold on most sources of news to which ordinary Zimbabweans have access makes such rhetoric an important tool for a regime struggling to hold onto power.

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1 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:48:08am

Oh, its the turn of the USA today, is it?
Yesterday, he accused the UK of spreading cholera in order to get rid of him.

Who'll be next on his list?

2 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:48:41am

A sideline from inventing Aids to kill blacks and McDonalds to corrupt the French?

Bwahahhhhahhhaaa

3 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:49:11am

I'm gonna common-cold his ass.

4 MJ  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:49:18am

re: #1 yma o hyd

"Who'll be next on his list?"

Israel....

5 mean Gene  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:49:26am

Nope it is the British according to Zim's "information minister."
Silly.
WHY would they?

6 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:49:31am

In a way Mugabe is right.

Carter as POTUS green lighted Mugabe.
Mugabe fucks up Zimbabwe.
Cholera breaks out.

We can trace the problem back to Rabbit Bait as the President of the US.

Simple solution, we give Rabbit Bait to Mugabe to put on trial for WMD.

We get rid of Rabbit Bait, Mugabe gets to "prove" it's Rabbit Bait's fault.

It's a win win!

7 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:49:32am

Did someone drop Paris Hilton into the area?

8 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:50:47am

Next Arabs get to bitch that Jooooos invented oil so the Arabs would be cursed by corrupt oppressive governments.
/it all fits, the grand unified field conspiracy

9 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:51:29am

Does Zimbabwe actually have a seat and a vote in the UN?

10 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:52:01am

So fucking sad. I don't even know what to say. If I really say what I think I will be banned from this site. It would involve an executive decision from S.Africa. Which would not happen. Really sad.

11 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:52:06am

We must be pretty inept since he's still alive.....

12 RockmanVermont  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:52:33am

I wonder if this will be blamed on Bush,you know,the guy that has spent more time and money on African disease prevention than any other president in history.Its because of Bush the population of Africa won't be utterly gone in a hundred years.

13 red satellite  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:52:45am

Robert Mugabe....what a tool.

14 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:53:38am

re: #9 Nevergiveup

Does Zimbabwe actually have a seat and a vote in the UN?

Here it is.

15 EmmmieG  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:54:23am

US accuses Mugabe of "Being Pond Scum"

16 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:54:34am

Say what you will about the apartheid state of Rhodesia, but at least back then the people could eat & weren't dying of treatable diseases.

17 jaunte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:54:43am

Jimmy Carter truly has the poison touch.

18 doppelganglander  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:54:48am

He probably actually believes this. I really doubt he has any idea what causes cholera.

19 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:54:52am

I think that Lisa Madigan should have Mugabe removed. He doesn't seem quite right to me.

20 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:55:23am

re: #15 EmmmieG

US accuses Mugabe of "Being Pond Scum"

I'm just guessing that even pond scum has some nutritional value?

21 capitalist piglet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:55:41am

When I think of Robert Mugabe, the first thing that comes to mind is how much he genuinely cares for people. And true to form, here he is, caring for the sick.

/doIhaveto?

22 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:55:50am

re: #12 RockmanVermont

I wonder if this will be blamed on Bush,you know,the guy that has spent more time and money on African disease prevention than any other president in history.Its because of Bush the population of Africa won't be utterly gone in a hundred years.

No blame on anyone else but Zim. and S.Africa. Kim says it all

23 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:55:51am

Btw - its odd, this blaming of the USA and UK, because Mugabe also said that there was no cholera in Zimbabwe ... but then, 'he was joking':
Robert Mugabe 'was joking about cholera' say his officials.

Well, he's probably joking about the involvement of the USA and UK as well, the funny man ...

24 vagabond trader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:56:11am

Mugsie must be comparing notes with rev Wright.Yeah, and btw, we American devils also invented vaccines to cause impotence in your male population.

25 path  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:56:14am

I am so-o tired of everything bad being blamed on America. American's are the most generous people in the world. Maybe some of our own politicans should begin pointing this out to the rest of the world!

26 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:56:34am

re: #23 yma o hyd

Btw - its odd, this blaming of the USA and UK, because Mugabe also said that there was no cholera in Zimbabwe ... but then, 'he was joking':
Robert Mugabe 'was joking about cholera' say his officials.

Well, he's probably joking about the involvement of the USA and UK as well, the funny man ...

"Joking?" Next, he'll be guest hosting SNL!

27 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:56:56am

re: #25 path

I am so-o tired of everything bad being blamed on America. American's are the most generous people in the world. Maybe some of our own politicans should begin pointing this out to the rest of the world!

You mean like Kerry?

28 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:57:08am

re: #16 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Say what you will about the apartheid state of Rhodesia, but at least back then the people could eat & weren't dying of treatable diseases.

Yep - and they were exporting food to the neighbouring states as well.
Now - basket case indeed.

29 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:57:09am

I think that maybe chasing off & killing the White farmers might have been kind of a bad idea.

30 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:57:16am
Zimbabwean officials..........Their stranglehold on most sources of news to which ordinary Zimbabweans have access makes such rhetoric an important tool for a regime struggling to hold onto power.

Sounds eerily close to where our media is......

31 trailortrash  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:57:38am

truly amazing, they take Africa and turn it back a thousand years then blame us for it, /shakeshead
i remember watching shows about safrai's and big game hunting when i was a kid in the 70's and dreaming of going to africa on safari when i grew up, now you cant go near the Continent without getting pirated, and they act like we are ruining their country LOL
damn shame the world will just agree.

32 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:57:48am

re: #24 vagabond trader

Mugsie must be comparing notes with rev Wright.Yeah, and btw, we American devils also invented vaccines to cause impotence in your male population.

No, impotence is caused by Jews & wizards. Jewzards.
/

33 mean Gene  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:58:03am

Is Mugabe one of those African kleptocrats who falsely teach things about how to ''cure'' AIDS with vinegar or some such?
Or is he making a lot of money off of his HIV+ population?
24% of the adult population there is HIV +.

34 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:58:14am

re: #29 opnion

I think that maybe chasing off & killing the White farmers might have been kind of a bad idea.

RACIST
/s

35 itellu3times  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:58:40am

Make biological love not biological war.

36 Cognito  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:58:49am

It must be fantastic, being an African dictator.

If something's going right, you steal it and make it your own.

If something's going wrong, you just point to that invisible bogeyman across the sea.

37 Maximu§  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:59:11am

re: #13 red satellite

Robert Mugabe....what a tool.

A tool and a Fool, why is this POS even alive? We should have taken him and his henchmen out along time ago.

38 vagabond trader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:59:11am

re: #33 mean Gene

He probably believes that having sex with a virgin cures AIDS. That's a popular "folk cure."

39 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:59:13am

re: #28 yma o hyd

Yep - and they were exporting food to the neighbouring states as well.
Now - basket case indeed.

From bread basket to basket case in a generation. Effin' tragedy.

40 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:59:35am

re: #33 mean Gene

Is Mugabe one of those African kleptocrats who falsely teach things about how to ''cure'' AIDS with vinegar or some such?
Or is he making a lot of money off of his HIV+ population?
24% of the adult population there is HIV +.

Speaking of which, didn't dinnerjacket promise the world a cure for AIDS?
Does the Zero use his crib sheets?

41 path  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:59:46am

re: #27 Nevergiveup
Yeah, like that's going to happen. ...and I'm originally from Massachusetts.

42 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:00:19am

re: #34 LGoPs

RACIST
/s

But, I believe that Obama is a lightworker, you know a member of the IBEW.

43 mean Gene  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:00:21am

re: #29 opnion

I think that maybe chasing off & killing the White farmers might have been kind of a bad idea.

Yeah, but when he said all was forgiven and the white land-owning farmers could come back SOME of them were dumb enough to do so!
Haven't they ever read Peanuts cartoons?
Seen Charlie Brown and Lucy?

44 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:00:22am

re: #35 itellu3times

Make biological love not biological war.

Breasts not Bacteria!

45 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:01:02am

re: #12 RockmanVermont

I wonder if this will be blamed on Bush,you know,the guy that has spent more time and money on African disease prevention than any other president in history.Its because of Bush the population of Africa won't be utterly gone in a hundred years.

* * *
F****ing Colin Powell could be attacking Mugabe's inhumanity to MILLIONS of Africans, but Nooooooo, Powell uses his Powell Doctrine to go after talk radio in America.

THANK YOU, Charles, for reporting on this Adolf Schicklgruber megalomaniac who cowardly world leaders refuse to topple.

Where is Bill Clinton who watched Hutus slaughter Tutsis? Genocide is happening and democrats attack Bush for toppling HUSSEIN.

PS, today is 5th anniversary we captured Sodamn Insane Hussein outside Tikrit, Iraq.

Thank you, President Bush for making me proud of our country, the liberator.

46 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:01:39am

re: #38 vagabond trader

He probably believes that having sex with a virgin cures AIDS. That's a popular "folk cure."

Which explains why there's not a Star Trek Fan Club chapter in Zimbabwe.

47 SurferDoc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:02:10am

Next, we air drop a squad of penis-stealing witches...

48 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:02:24am

re: #16 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Say what you will about the apartheid state of Rhodesia, but at least back then the people could eat & weren't dying of treatable diseases.

* * *
Hi BeerDrinking, you're so right.

Yes, South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu said Rhodesia used to be beautiful country until Mugabe turned a breadbasket into a basket case.

49 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:02:48am

I really hate murderous thug dictators.

50 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:02:53am

What i find unforgivable is that this man has been left in power through the support of Mbeki, the President of the RSA. He's been bending over backwards to talk down all the problems facing the Zimbabweans, even though his border to that country is heaving with refuge camps.

Apparently, Odinga of Kenya is trying to get support for a forced intervention - but all the nice, gentle African dictators want none of this.

Why do we support such regimes with our aid donations?
Its the same for Sudan/Darfur, Kongo - you name it. Its been going on for decades.

Why?

51 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:02:54am

Naturally, the imbeciles at whatreallyhappened and PrisonPlanet will eat this up with a spoon.

And no doubt Cindy Sheehan believes it, too.

Can McKinney calling for Congressional hearings be far behind?

52 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:03:01am

re: #47 SurferDoc

Next, we air drop a squad of penis-stealing witches...


Rosie O'Donnel & friends?

53 mean Gene  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:03:22am

re: #47 SurferDoc

Next, we air drop a squad of penis-stealing witches...

The ones who use combs or the ones who use handshakes?

54 SurferDoc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:12am

re: #47 SurferDoc

Next, we air drop a squad of penis-stealing witches...


Rosie O'Donnel & friends?

Worse than that. Madonna!

55 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:15am

Mugabe is just such a wonderful candidate. For a Seal sniper team.

56 Blackacre  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:16am

Thug in the Time of Cholera by Robert Mugabe (c) 2008.

57 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:25am

re: #52 opnion

Rosie O'Donnel & friends?

Stealing, not shrinking!

58 FrogMarch  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:25am

Yes, and according to Obama's pastor of 20 years, we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki for no reason.

59 Cognito  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:25am

re: #53 mean Gene

The ones who use combs or the ones who use handshakes?

The ones who look at you with their eyes.

Watch out.

60 RubyTuesday  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:27am

re: #49 CapeCoddah
I really hate murderous thug dictators.

Does that include those in Illinois?

61 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:30am

re: #26 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Joking?" Next, he'll be guest hosting SNL!

I wish I could explain to you what is really happening in Southern Africa. I have been here for 24 years and everything I thought I knew has been thrown out the window. Sorry to sound so pessimistic but fuck Mugabe and the rest of Africa. Until Africa choices to stand up for themselves the USA should feel nothing.

62 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:41am

Zimbabwe unveils 500 million dollar note

Zimbabwe's central bank Friday introduced a 500 million dollar note, as the African country struggles to cope with the world's highest inflation and crippling currency shortages.

The half-billon note, worth about 10 US dollars, was released together with a 200 million dollar bill, which the central bank said in a statement was introduced for the "convenience" of the public.

Finance minister Samuel Mumbengegwi announced the new bills in a government gazette, bringing to 29 the number of new notes put into circulation this year alone.

Just last Thursday, Zimbabwe introduced a 100 million dollar bill that at the time was worth 14 US dollars. One week later, it's worth less than 50 cents.

/the only decent thing to do would be to eliminate Mugabe so that others may live

63 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:43am

re: #60 RubyTuesday

I really hate murderous thug dictators.

Does that include those in Illinois?

Yes.

64 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:46am

re: #49 CapeCoddah

I really hate Illinois Nazis murderous thug dictators.

65 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:50am

re: #49 CapeCoddah

I really hate murderous thug dictators.

That's a little bit judgmental, don'tcha think?
/s

66 vagabond trader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:04:55am

re: #51 Occasional Reader

They'll have to get in line so the "Prosecute Bushco" nutbags have their day in court.

67 VegasRick  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:05:07am

re: #45 alegrias

* * *
F****ing Colin Powell could be attacking Mugabe's inhumanity to MILLIONS of Africans, but Nooooooo, Powell uses his Powell Doctrine to go after talk radio in America.

THANK YOU, Charles, for reporting on this Adolf Schicklgruber megalomaniac who cowardly world leaders refuse to topple.

Where is Bill Clinton who watched Hutus slaughter Tutsis? Genocide is happening and democrats attack Bush for toppling HUSSEIN.

PS, today is 5th anniversary we captured Sodamn Insane Hussein outside Tikrit, Iraq.

Thank you, President Bush for making me proud of our country, the liberator.

Is hussein still hanging around?
/

68 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:05:28am

re: #33 mean Gene

Is Mugabe one of those African kleptocrats who falsely teach things about how to ''cure'' AIDS with vinegar or some such?
Or is he making a lot of money off of his HIV+ population?
24% of the adult population there is HIV +.

No that is the S.African Pres.

69 CapeCoddah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:05:28am

re: #65 LGoPs

That's a little bit judgmental, don'tcha think?
/s

Sorry, couldn't help myself. I will go repent now.
/

70 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:05:31am

Carter predicts improved US-Syrian relations
Published: 12.13.08, 19:34 / Israel News
Former US President Jimmy Carter predicted Saturday an improvement in US-Syrian relations under President-elect Barack Obama and expressed hope that full diplomatic relations would be restored.

Carter spoke to reporters in Damascus following a meeting he held with President Bashar Assad. He said they had also discussed the reopening of an American school and a US cultural center in Damascus. (AP)

Seems an appropriate thread to post this under.

71 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:05:37am

re: #16 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Say what you will about the apartheid state of Rhodesia, but at least back then the people could eat & weren't dying of treatable diseases.

They also made a kickass shotgun.

72 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:06:23am
73 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:07:17am

mugabe is a monster. sacrificing his people and his country.
he is a communist pos who now won't even meet w/ carter who helped crown him dictator for life.
the left loves cruel rulers. loves to prop them up and speak proudly abt. them.
the left is actually worse than the sob's they nurture. ignorant. evil.
despicable.

74 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:07:30am

re: #55 Occasional Reader

Mugabe is just such a wonderful candidate. For a Seal sniper team.

* * *
Toppling Mugabe should be job number one for African military people.

They have child soldiers, where are African fighting MEN when you need them?

Where are these vaunted Zulu warriors?

and yes, Obama cousin Kenya's Raila Odinga bravely called for Mugabe to step down.

75 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:07:30am

re: #72 ploome hineni

LOL


Madonna! Stop the madness!

76 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:07:47am

re: #62 Killian Bundy

Zimbabwe unveils 500 million dollar note

/the only decent thing to do would be to eliminate Mugabe so that others may live

GMTA.

Sometimes a single, well-placed round can change an entire country for the better.

77 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:07:50am

re: #62 Killian Bundy

I vaguely recall some debate on the Beeb (sorry, no linky) frome arlier this year, when they had these 'elections' in Zimbabwe. Someone said that Mugabe is held in his position because all his thugs, who have enriched themselves, are fearful of what might happen if he goes. They want their 'protection' in place before that happens.

its become very very quiet indeed around Tsvangirai, his opponent, who is supposedly 'sharing' in the governement.

78 Maximu§  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:07:59am

re: #62 Killian Bundy

Zimbabwe unveils 500 million dollar note


/the only decent thing to do would be to eliminate Mugabe so that others may live

So does that $500 Million dollar note even buy a gallon of milk in that country?

79 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:07:59am

re: #71 Occasional Reader

They also made a kickass shotgun.

Odd, Wikipedia didn't note how many rounds it held.

80 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:08:40am

Dictators always do the same thing. When hell is happening due to their own communist/socialist/fascist policies, find a scapegoat.

81 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:09:02am

re: #79 Wishing

Odd, Wikipedia didn't note how many rounds it held.

Yes, it did:

Feed system 12-round revolving magazine

82 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:09:31am

re: #78 Maximu§

So does that $500 Million dollar note even buy a gallon of milk in that country?

probably not.
maybe a slice of bread.

83 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:09:33am

re: #61 Erik The Red

I wish I could explain to you what is really happening in Southern Africa. I have been here for 24 years and everything I thought I knew has been thrown out the window. Sorry to sound so pessimistic but fuck Mugabe and the rest of Africa. Until Africa choices to stand up for themselves the USA should feel nothing.

* * *
All you have to say is MARXIST Mugabe. Confiscatory communist.

Marxism/communism says it all.

84 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:09:46am

re: #81 Occasional Reader

Yes, it did:

Feed system 12-round revolving magazine

Thanks, I totally missed it. Heck of a weapon for home defense!

85 Cognito  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:09:49am

re: #79 Wishing

Odd, Wikipedia didn't note how many rounds it held.

Says a 12-round revolving magazine, unless I'm misunderstanding it.

86 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:10:12am

Obama to Name Shaun Donovan U.S. Housing Secretary

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Donovan, 42, who trained as an architect, served in the housing agency under President Bill Clinton

Another Clinton retread.

87 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:10:31am

re: #62 Killian Bundy

I have a one million "Inti" note from Peru, circa 1991. But now I feel poor!

88 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:10:35am

re: #85 Cognito

Says a 12-round revolving magazine, unless I'm misunderstanding it.

Thanks, Cog, will go wash my glasses!

89 JCM  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:11:06am

re: #71 Occasional Reader

They also made a kickass shotgun.

SRM is making an interesting shotgun

90 Maximu§  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:11:08am

OK, off to do yardwork....~grumbles~

91 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:11:16am

Do any other Lizards know if there are any other posters in S. Africa besides me? Would like to meet/talk to if there are. FUCK Mugabe.

92 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:11:27am

re: #62 Killian Bundy

Zimbabwe unveils 500 million dollar note


/the only decent thing to do would be to eliminate Mugabe so that others may live

* * *
Amen. For the love of innocent children, where are Africans who love children enough to sacrifice themselves in a palace coup or other removal action?

93 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:12:24am

re: #87 Occasional Reader

I have a one million "Inti" note from Peru, circa 1991. But now I feel poor!

I used to collect German Notgeld from the 20s. Very colorful, very worthless money. People would burn stacks of bills, as it was cheaper to do so than to buy firewood.

94 Erik The Red  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:12:29am

re: #83 alegrias

* * *
All you have to say is MARXIST Mugabe. Confiscatory communist.

Marxism/communism says it all.

How about FUCKED

95 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:12:35am

re: #23 yma o hyd

Btw - its odd, this blaming of the USA and UK, because Mugabe also said that there was no cholera in Zimbabwe ... but then, 'he was joking':
Robert Mugabe 'was joking about cholera' say his officials.

Well, he's probably joking about the involvement of the USA and UK as well, the funny man ...

menevolent children...bring back colonializm
/

96 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:13:28am

re: #86 Nevergiveup

Obama to Name Shaun Donovan U.S. Housing Secretary

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Donovan, 42, who trained as an architect, served in the housing agency under President Bill Clinton

Another Clinton retread.

The last straw for me is if they bring back Warren Christopher.......inept POS. Not even sure he's still above ground.

97 USCMSNE  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:13:40am

Snowball knocked the windmill over.

Snowball stole the chickens eggs.

Snowball came in and took all the cows milk while they were asleep.

Snowball infected the rest of the animals with cholera.

98 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:13:58am

re: #77 yma o hyd

I vaguely recall some debate on the Beeb (sorry, no linky) frome arlier this year, when they had these 'elections' in Zimbabwe. Someone said that Mugabe is held in his position because all his thugs, who have enriched themselves, are fearful of what might happen if he goes. They want their 'protection' in place before that happens.

its become very very quiet indeed around Tsvangirai, his opponent, who is supposedly 'sharing' in the governement.

* * *
It's beginning to look a lot like Chicago style politics.

99 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:14:00am
100 Floral Giraffe  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:14:31am

re: #22 Erik The Red

Thanks for the great link!

101 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:14:32am

re: #97 USCMSNE

And you know what we must do, of course: We will work harder.

102 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:14:40am

WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE HATE MUGABE.

103 invictus1  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:15:47am

re: #78 Maximu§

So does that $500 Million dollar note even buy a gallon of milk in that country?

For now. In a couple days, probably not. Then they'll just put out the $1 billion note. Mugabe has blamed the hyperinflation on.. foreign countries.

104 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:15:53am

re: #101 Occasional Reader

And you know what we must do, of course: We will work harder.

Speaking of which, I gotta get back to work. Later, Lizards!

105 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:16:00am

re: #89 JCM

SRM is making an interesting shotgun

now that is friggin cool! I want one

106 SurferDoc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:16:08am

re: #96 LGoPs

The last straw for me is if they bring back Warren Christopher.......inept POS. Not even sure he's still above ground.

Warren Christopher *spit*

107 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:16:34am
108 SixDegrees  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:16:49am

Good Lord.

If there was ever an excuse for taking the CIA off it's leash and ordering the assassination of a tyrant, Mugabe is that excuse.

Zimbabwe used to be the envy of the African continent, providing food for all it's nations in addition to feeding itself. Under Mugabe, it has sunk below Third World status and become a living Hell.

Somebody, please - frag this bitch before he kills any more people.

109 Thanos  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:16:50am

A Wrighteous Accusation from a third world thug

110 ggt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:16:54am

re: #40 Wishing

"Speaking of which, didn't dinnerjacket promise the world a cure for AIDS?
Does the Zero use his crib sheets?"

Kinda like homosexuality --they don't have that "phenomonem" in Iran.

/because the execute anyone that is homosexual.

111 opinionated  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:17:14am

Jimmy Carter is not done being the most revolting man on Earth

Former US President Jimmy Carter predicted Saturday an improvement in US-Syrian relations under US President-elect Barack Obama and expressed hope that full diplomatic relations would be restored.

Each tyrant does his own evil whether Chavez or Assad or Mugabe or the rest- but only one person of prominence gives all of them support and succor.

I wish for a favor. Whenever anyone sees my ID on LGF please have a reflex association and imagine me writing and saying the most vile expletive-ridden tirade full of curses and bad wishes for this most evil person. Imagine my thoughts so over the top that I can only imply them here as actually writing what I think and wish for this evil person would get me immediately banned if not also result in a visit from the Secret Service.

112 Cognito  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:17:43am

re: #97 USCMSNE

I'm not sure what 'snowball' refers to, there, but I like it. Sounds like a bit of paranoid folklore.

113 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:17:44am

re: #87 Occasional Reader

I have a one million "Inti" note from Peru, circa 1991. But now I feel poor!

* * *
I bought two bunches of Peruvian asparagus today. Mmmm, beautiful Peruvian produce. I love free trade agreements!

Those local "communist-y garden grown" asparagus I bought this summer cost 10times as much and were awful because they were grown by Virginia liberals. Not doing THAT again.

114 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:18:28am

re: #112 Cognito

I'm not sure what 'snowball' refers to, there, but I like it. Sounds like a bit of paranoid folklore.

No, he's referring to Animal Farm.

115 jaunte  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:18:57am

Some animals are more snowball than others.

116 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:19:04am

re: #91 Erik The Red

Do any other Lizards know if there are any other posters in S. Africa besides me? Would like to meet/talk to if there are. FUCK Mugabe.

* ** *
Yes, we've had African lizards pop up when talking about Mugabe or other African subjects in past. Sorry I don't recall their names.

117 RubyTuesday  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:20:55am

re: #83 alegrias
All you have to say is MARXIST Mugabe. Confiscatory communist.
Marxism/communism says it all.

And this is what ignorant uninformed Americans are clamoring for?

118 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:21:56am

re: #70 Nevergiveup

"Improved US-Syrian relations -- "

To the detriment, naturally, of US-Israeli relations.

119 RubyTuesday  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:22:33am

re: #110 ggt
/because the execute anyone that is homosexual.
Because it is excused for those in power.

120 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:22:33am

re: #91 Erik The Red

FUCK Mugabe.

Why would you want to?
/

121 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:24:04am

re: #117 RubyTuesday

All you have to say is MARXIST Mugabe. Confiscatory communist.
Marxism/communism says it all.

And this is what ignorant uninformed Americans are clamoring for?

* * *
Dear Ruby,

Fraid so. You can fool some of the people all the time and all of the people some of the time. Lizards are a different species however.

122 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:24:18am

re: #70 Nevergiveup

I have trouble finding the words to express the depths of my distaste for Jimmy Carter.

123 stuiec  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:25:20am

The L.A. Times has the politically-correct take on this:

In Zimbabwe, chaos gives cholera a foothold
The lack of government services allows the easily treatable disease to spread. The sick and their families must cope alone.


The Government of Zimbabwe provides plenty of services: bone-breaking, torture, murder, and re-education. Maybe if it withdrew those services, people could have the (literal) breathing room to organize clean water and sanitation.

124 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:26:56am

re: #123 stuiec

The L.A. Times has the politically-correct take on this:

The Government of Zimbabwe provides plenty of services: bone-breaking, torture, murder, and re-education. Maybe if it withdrew those services, people could have the (literal) breathing room to organize clean water and sanitation.

Work work work work work.

125 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:27:36am

re: #121 alegrias

* * *
Dear Ruby,

Fraid so. You can fool some of the people all the time and all of the people some of the time. Lizards are a different species however.

And I think there's a new category......the one's that want to be fooled, or at least don't care if they are. I know it's cynical but I think there's a substantial portion of our population that doesn't care if they're manipulated/brainwashed by the media......

126 Pietr  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:35:50am

Too many posts to see if I'm repeating-but didn't he tell the WORLD yesterday,"There is No Cholera Outbreak"-and now it's Western 'chemical warfare'? Seems he needs a good PR man to help out with his propaganda-oops, words.....:>(

127 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:38:06am

re: #124 lifeofthemind

Work work work work work.

This cholera epidemic is an important step forward in the treatment of the insane gambler.

128 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:45:08am

re: #127 Occasional Reader

Ding

129 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:49:40am

re: #108 SixDegrees

Good Lord.

If there was ever an excuse for taking the CIA off it's leash and ordering the assassination of a tyrant, Mugabe is that excuse.

Zimbabwe used to be the envy of the African continent, providing food for all it's nations in addition to feeding itself. Under Mugabe, it has sunk below Third World status and become a living Hell.

Somebody, please - frag this bitch before he kills any more people.

"Six" -

I feel you here. About 100 well armed/equiped MERCENARIES, yes, I used the "M" word, would put an end to this SCOURGE in short order. Discussion?

-S-

130 Occasional Reader  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 10:54:18am

re: #129 Dr. Shalit

About 100 well armed/equiped MERCENARIES

I think it would take a lot more than that, unfortunately. Well... more than that to do a coup. Of course, a single well-placed two-man sniper team, on the other hand...

131 Wilderstad  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:35:16am

Any plumber or sewage engineer will tell you that excrement flows downhill. Mugabe is on the top of this dung heap and the common man suffers and dies.
If there is a hell...well you fill the rest in.

132 Cognito  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:35:40am

re: #114 Occasional Reader

No, he's referring to Animal Farm.

Ah, thanks. It's been too long, for me.

133 notutopia  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:49:38am

[Link: www.who.int...]
Mugabe this is NOT a joke...however, You are a sick Joke!

134 chakal  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:12:04pm

Unfortunately Ian Smith is no longer with us.

135 experiencedtraveller  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:38:55pm

re: #36 Cognito

It must be fantastic, being a African dictator.

If something's going right, you steal it and make it your own.

If something's going wrong, you just point to that invisible bogeyman across the sea.

Your tactics work well for all dictators...

136 shiek al beif salami  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:01:37pm

re: #91 Erik The Red

I just got online - snow has shut down my satellite internet since last night. I lived in Bulawayo from '83 to "91. My daughter was born in Mater Dei Hospital. I learned to fly at Induna Field and brought a Cessna 172 back to the States with me. Last time I visited Zim was in either 2003 or 2004. Can't remember for sure, but I do remember how ruined it was. I figured out a way around Mug's currency restrictions and stayed at Meikels for $17 USD per night.

I met Mugs four times over the years and probably could have broken his neck and would have, if I knew then what I know now.

If there is a god, I hope he roasts Mugabe in the hottest part of hell.

(Just before I got back online, I was finishing Peter Godwin's "When a Crocodile Eats the Sun." Godwin again reminded me why there is no good reason to not hang Mugabe - after dragging him by a chain to the gallows.)

137 swamprat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:23:23pm

Mugabe is pissed because he got disrespected. The other African countries get all the good biohazards. Aids. Giant ants. Fierce bees. What does he get? Cholera. Might as well be nose pimple disease. Death by diarrhea. A dictator just can't get any respect.
One of our ambassadors sent him a prostitute; it was Mrs Mugabe! Someone sent him a pig as a joke; he bought it a condo! The last time I saw a face like that, it had a hook in it!

138 Marvo76  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:26:18pm

I am thinking they may have found out about our chemical warfare experiment for "stupid pills" I know I have an uncontrollable urge to say..."here's your sign!"

139 Marvo76  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:28:24pm

re: #14 lifeofthemind

Here it is.

Looks like the puch bowl at the Mugabee household...

140 Tazzerman  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:32:18pm

Chemical warfare? Sheesh. We don't need no stinking chemical warfare.

Drop leaflets over Hararre directing all civilians to leave, enter a full squadron of B-52's from Diego Garcia, carpet bomb until no more Mugabe.

Move in, clean up mess, create a stable democratic govt, cleanup the water resources, rinse, repeat as necessary.

Too superficial?

141 J'accuzzi  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:03:16pm

Guess that setting up the people's militia for Big O must have fallen through? "Mug" would have been gone by the time Mbeki had finished snapping his fingers if the old marxist didn't probably have plenty of dirt on every one of his "old comrades".

Nice that AP still keeps a candle in the window for the old...........................

142 notutopia  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:18:25pm

re: #126 Pietr

It's so sad for these innocent people Pietr, that Mugabe would be this audacious and crass. The healthcare workers who are there actually providing the care and treatment of those cholera victims are mostly from the WEST. Both UK and The US.
He is a damned fool. He bit the hand that is assisting him... He could give a damn about his people.
Mugabe step down!

143 descolada9  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:35:48pm

To think that so much progress has happened in the world in the past few centuries and yet there is still so much backwater destruction of human life is disgusting. What is equally disgusting is that the majority of the world refuses to do anything to bring about substantive, positive change in places like Zimbabwe.

And I continue to be horrified that Jimmy Carter is still drawing breath after all these years and all of the travesties that the man has brought about. He is like so many other destructive men of history (including dictators and tyrants) who seem to cling onto life undeservedly while good men, women and children die in droves as a result of their various actions, whether as direct victims or indirect victims.

When Mr. Carter does shuffle off the mortal coil I would really like to see his coffin draped with a shroud listing the millions of names of people whose lives were devestated by his policies, words and actions over the decades. Sadly, I know that the MSM will fawn over the man to the same degree that they tried to spit on Nixon's grave.

144 lostlakehiker  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:56:17pm

The state-run Herald newspaper said comments by the U.S. ambassador that the U.S. had been preparing for the outbreak raised suspicions the West had waged “serious biological chemical war.”

That's so wrong. We are waging unserious humorological war with Zimbabwe. We make fun of Mugabe. He gets so angry so easily, he's just plain choleric. The doctors tell him he needs to reduce the cholera-esterol in the diet of his people, but he says it's just another way to slander the glorious government-run health care system of Zimbabwe.

Zimbabwe is also the richest nation in the world. They have more dollars than the U.S. OK, they have more Zimdollars than we have USdollars, but still, a dollar is a dollar, right? Zimbabwe also has the best growth rate in the world; the number of Zimdollars grows by 10 and 20 % daily!

Zimbabwe also has the highest percentage of locally owned organic farms in all of Africa. They've systematically cleansed the system of corporate farmers, farmers with European connections or ancestry, and farmers who are not friends or relatives of Robert the Magnificent. They've also improved livestock management. No longer must people endure the long wait while beef is trucked around, butchered, refrigerated, packaged, and so on. Instead, the choicest cuts such as the tongue can be shared out immediately, any time a soldier wants a snack. The rest is buzzard food, such is the abundance that Robert the Magnificent has brought to Zimbabwe.

His life ambition was that his career would serve as a lesson and an example to all of Africa. And so it has, and so it will. In a sense.

145 Ron Shaw  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:16:31pm

...sheeeeeesh!

146 Paul  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:23:34pm
A dictatorship whose existence can be blamed largely on Jimmy Carter.

He vacated the White House almost thirty years ago but his legacy still haunts us. Is there anything that Jimmy Carter did as President that he didn't f*** up?

147 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:31:35pm

Why hasn't Mugabe been put down for a dirtnap a long time ago? by his own people? This guy has managed to take a perfectly good country and turn it in to a ghetto.

148 grumpy old codger  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:16:48pm

re: #112 Cognito
White people

149 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:18:13pm

re: #36 Cognito

It must be fantastic, being an African dictator.

If something's going right, you steal it and make it your own.

If something's going wrong, you just point to that invisible bogeyman across the sea.

Is it bogeyman or boogeyman? I always used the latter.

150 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:23:05pm

re: #149 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Is it bogeyman or boogeyman? I always used the latter.

Either, with a couple more variants; at least according to dictionary.com.

(Boogerman...*snicker*)

151 Perplexed  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:23:11pm

Well, if you practice modern (read that as early 20th century) public health practices that wouldn't be a problem. Too bad you ran off all of the whites who knew how to operate the equipment before your thugs took over.

152 JCW  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:50:17pm

The observation about the link to Jimmy Carter brings up an important point.

As such a leading historical figure, Carter merits his own death counter; how many people have died in the world because of Carter's errors? Amazingly, his counter just keeps going up and seems to be accelerating.

It would make a great dissertation topic resulting in an on going debate about just how many people were killed by Carter's ideas.

153 BingoBunny  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 9:57:53pm

Mugabe is a perfect example of why I will always keep a gun.. or die trying to. A funny thing happened on the road to African independence.. the people lost the right to be free.. when their socialist governments collected all the guns.. and gave them to the Presidents political party.

/Don't let that happen here..

154 Jed  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 6:12:20am

Why doesn't Jimma go home to Georgia and keep his mouth shut. He is irrelevant but doesn't know it.

155 theheat  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 7:07:00am
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

This pretty much sums up the worst of Africa.

For years and years, people have been trying to help them become educated, treat diseases, have clean drinking water, and manage their agriculture. Corruption, superstition, race and religious wars, and (the biggee) an overabundance of humping by people incapable of caring for themselves, let alone millions of ill-fated children, has kept the country bordering on the stone ages.

If I had a magic wand, the first thing I would do is drop billions of condoms and birth control pills over the entire region from airplanes. Sort of like carpet bombing, 'cept different. Screw the food drops (pun intended), they need to figure out you don't bring millions of children into the world only to die of poverty, disease, and starvation. And, no, screwing virgins, or blaming your predicament on witchcraft, doesn't fix it.

Next, take out the warlords and the religious rabble rousers... Until they're gone, any money or aid sent is stolen or pissed away.

I suppose that makes me a meanie. OTOH, I'm not the one sitting on the floor with seven or nine kids subsisting on dirt until they die, hoping I'm not murdered or raped by the Power of the Week Club.

156 Seax  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 6:26:58pm

Years ago I knew a few guys who were from the once bountiful Land of Rhodesia - they hit the ground a running and gapped it from there smartly( being ex-military ). Most people who met these guys said they had it all wrong about the 'New Zimbabwe' - turns out they were right all along.
Another friend was a travelling international medic that was based in Africa- and what he told me about Africa gave me the impression that it was still in the middle ages. Like did you know that Arab slave traders/brigands are still running around the place ?! Oh yeah - and that was the LEAST of his worries !This was this guys life - until he retired after being shot in the back in the Balkans.
Damn...


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