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Open | Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 11:36:32 am PST

Jeff: You fiend!

Eros: I? A fiend? I am a soldier of our planet! I? A fiend? We did not come here as enemies. We came only with friendly intentions. To talk. To ask your aid.

Col. Edwards: Our aid?

Eros: Yes. Your aid for the whole universe. But your governments of Earth refused even to accept our existence. Even though you’ve seen us, heard our messages, you still refused to accept us.

Col. Edwards: Why is it so important that you want to contact the governments of our Earth?

Eros: Because of death. Because all you of Earth are idiots!

Jeff: Now you just hold on, Buster.

— Plan 9 From Outer Space

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1 poopeedoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:37:40am

11 more shopping days til Christmas!

2 saberry0530  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:38:17am

Take me to your leader!

3 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:39:08am

Sat. morning Open? Hey buddie it's 2:45 PM here on the east coast! Time for a nap!

4 poopeedoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:39:55am

re: #3 Nevergiveup

Sat. morning Open? Hey buddie it's 2:45 PM here on the east coast! Time for a nap!

It's only 11:40 am here on the "left-coast".

5 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:40:27am

re: #4 poopeedoo

It's only 11:40 am here on the "left-coast".

What country it that?

6 poopeedoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:40:28am

re: #2 saberry0530

"Greetings space creatures..."

7 Karridine  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:41:22am

Ouch!

It's 0244 here in the black, quiet suburbs of Bangkok... the Pukes Against Democracy finally abandoned their stink-in at Government House after stealing as much as they could, and Thaksin spoke with the Democratic Red-Shirts (relatively Good Guys) today so THEY disbanded, hence its waaaaay past my bedtime, and I wish y'all Good Knight!

CUL

8 poopeedoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:41:25am

re: #5 Nevergiveup

AKA "west coast". But I guess you're right. Sometimes it does feel like we're in another country! :)

9 Racer X  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:42:48am

Pancakes

Brenda and Steve took their six-year-old son to the doctor.
With some hesitation, they explained that although their
little angel appeared to be in good health, they were
concerned about his rather small penis.

After examining the child, the doctor confidently
declared, 'Just feed him pancakes. That should solve the problem.'

The next morning when the boy arrived at breakfast,
there was a large stack of warm pancakes in the middle of the table. 'Gee, Mom,' he exclaimed. 'For me?'

'Just take two,' Brenda replied . 'The rest are for your father'.

10 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:43:59am

re: #9 Racer X

OOH that's a low blow, but if it gets my wife to make me pancakes every morning.....

11 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:44:00am

Is the sequel called; Plan 9 From Chicago?

12 amir  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:44:01am

Here is a link to a tragic story from Yemen:
[Link: www.sabanews.net...]
A Jewish man, father of eight, was murdered by a Muslim who "for the sake of Allah." This same man murdered his wife two years before but was let go by the court after he paid the woman's family compensation. Yemen law is based on Islamic law.

13 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:44:07am

re: #9 Racer X

*snicker*

14 SurferDoc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:44:57am

Hi and Bye! I'm off to the LA Computer Fair to help the economy.

15 Karridine  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:45:15am

re: #11 jcm

Is the sequel called; Plan 9 From Chicago?

BO phone home!

16 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:45:59am

re: #15 Karridine

BO phone home!

No! The feds have it tapped.

17 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:46:50am

Be back in a bit. Going to shower up. Then off to the theatre to work in 30 minutes or so.

Don't talk about me while I'm gone.

18 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:47:06am

Just had a call from my son - wife's contractions are about 5 mins. apart .. thinking about leaving got the hospital real soon. Step son and wife had a baby boy 6 1/2 months ago .. and now for another ... this time a little girl. For those inclined, please say a prayer for her safe delivery. And one for Dad too. :)

19 poopeedoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:47:07am

re: #15 Karridine

BO Blackberry home!

20 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:47:30am

re: #17 Walter L. Newton

Be back in a bit. Going to shower up. Then off to the theatre to work in 30 minutes or so.

Don't talk about me while I'm gone.

Wait....
Wait....
Wait....
is he gone?

Hey did you hear about the time?
;-P

21 Karridine  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:47:45am

re: #15 Karridine

BO phone home!

BO, NO PHONE NO WORKIE! Send ET over, we'll talk in person...

22 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:48:07am

re: #17 Walter L. Newton

Be back in a bit. Going to shower up. Then off to the theatre to work in 30 minutes or so.

Don't talk about me while I'm gone.

I won't. But I'm still wondering how your soup turned out. It's becoming an imponderable at this point :)

23 poopeedoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:48:30am

re: #18 Daisy

Prayers just went out to mom, baby, dad and hospital staff. Congratulations!

24 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:48:32am

re: #21 Karridine

BO, NO PHONE NO WORKIE! Send ET over, we'll talk in person...

ET.........?

25 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:49:18am

re: #20 jcm

Hey did you hear about the time?
;-P

OhM'Gawd! ... REALLY?!
:D

26 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:49:25am

re: #23 poopeedoo

Prayers just went out to mom, baby, dad and hospital staff. Congratulations!

Thanks. I know it helps.

27 Karridine  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:49:29am

re: #19 poopeedoo

Blackberry home!?

/racial slur time? For shame! "BO, BlueTooth a Text-Message!"

28 poopeedoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:50:25am

re: #27 Karridine

:)

29 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:50:39am

And now for something completely different:

It is Biblical times and a crowd is gathered to stone a man to death.
Suddenly, Jesus parts the crowd saying 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone'.
Everyone in the crowd puts down their stones and stares at their sandals.
Suddenly the crowd parts as a little old woman, carrying a huge boulder, struggles through the crowd.
She carries the boulder over to the sinner, drops it on him and crushes the life out of him.
Jesus looks at her and says...'You know Ma, sometimes you really piss me off'

-I hope the Lord has a sense of humor cause if not, I'm going to a bad place......

30 Karridine  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:50:45am

re: #24 jcm

Oook! That DOES bear an uncanny resemblance to ET, don't it? :D

31 poopeedoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:50:49am

re: #26 Daisy

You bet it does. He hears!

32 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:50:50am

re: #25 pre-Boomer Marine brat

OhM'Gawd! ... REALLY?!
:D

*snicker*
*snicker*

Yeah....REALLY!

33 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:51:08am

We don't have a "Gate" name for the Bleepovich thingy yet.

Nominations?
/or is it too early?

34 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:51:19am

re: #22 Daisy

I won't. But I'm still wondering how your soup turned out. It's becoming an imponderable at this point :)

I caught you comment just before I scalded myself with the shower water. Gee thanks, saved my life.

I didn't get around to picking up any thickener of any sort yet, but I did try cooking the soup down a bit more, and adding a bit more vegetables.

That was better. I just like chunky, mushy soup.

35 pat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:51:59am

Isn't Plan 9 one of the Obama platforms?

36 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:52:12am

re: #33 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We don't have a "Gate" name for the Bleepovich thingy yet.

Nominations?
/or is it too early?

Blagogate.
Gate-o-vich.

37 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:52:28am

re: #32 jcm

*snicker*
*snicker*

Yeah....REALLY!

SHHH!
He's back!
O:

38 poopeedoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:52:37am

re: #33 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We don't have a "Gate" name for the Bleepovich thingy yet.

Nominations?
/or is it too early?

Oh goody, I'll go get some popcorn.

~ brb :)

39 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:52:57am

No YOU HOLD ON!

40 Syrah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:53:05am

re: #33 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We don't have a "Gate" name for the Bleepovich thingy yet.

Nominations?
/or is it too early?

Blago-gate?

Rahm-gate?

. . .

41 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:53:18am

re: #37 pre-Boomer Marine brat

SHHH!
He's back!
O:

OOP!

*looks around innocently*

42 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:53:21am

I watched "Plan 9 from Outer Space" a few weeks ago, and right after that, I see several quotes from that movie here on LGF.

Amazing how that dialogue fits the times we are in today.

And it's funny as hell!

43 Karridine  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:53:57am

re: #35 pat

Isn't Plan 9 one of the Obama platforms?

Obama's plan for the communal socialization of America... Plan 9 from Outer Inner Chicago Space

44 amir  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:53:57am

Blagogate already returns 13000 on google

45 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:54:04am

Perfect

/yeah, yeah, she's a raging moonbat

46 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:54:29am

re: #40 Syrah

Blago-gate?

Rahm-gate?

. . .

Sale-o-Rahm-a-gate.

47 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:54:33am

re: #18 Daisy

Just had a call from my son - wife's contractions are about 5 mins. apart .. thinking about leaving got the hospital real soon. Step son and wife had a baby boy 6 1/2 months ago .. and now for another ... this time a little girl. For those inclined, please say a prayer for her safe delivery. And one for Dad too. :)

{Daisy}
Prayers and best wishes for you DIL, your son, and for all your family!

48 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:54:39am

re: #38 poopeedoo

Oh goody, I'll go get some popcorn.

~ brb :)

Screw the popcorn. I've a big bowl of Brazil nuts and walnuts. There's nothing like that satisfying *CRUNCH*.

49 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:54:41am

Alanis Morrisette. Icky.

50 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:54:43am

It's too damned long, but I was thinking of ...
... WhatTh'HellDoYouExpect?!Gate

51 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:54:55am

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

I caught you comment just before I scalded myself with the shower water. Gee thanks, saved my life.

I didn't get around to picking up any thickener of any sort yet, but I did try cooking the soup down a bit more, and adding a bit more vegetables.

That was better. I just like chunky, mushy soup.

That's the ticket. I recommended the technique one uses when making vichyssoise - push veggies (potatoes/leeks) thru a strainer - or - more simply, mash a small plain potatoe into soup when almost cooked. But you take the cake for the most simple method!

52 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:55:14am

re: #44 amir

Hmmm, thanks!

53 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:55:53am
11 more shopping days til Christmas!

Have yet to step foot in a store since Thanksgiving.

54 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:56:05am

re: #29 LGoPs

Don't worry, He has!

55 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:56:07am

re: #40 Syrah

Blago-gate?

Rahm-gate?

. . .

Rhamadahmadingdong. Or it that too too .. :) ?

56 amir  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:56:16am

Obamagate returns 26500 on google

57 vxbush  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:56:23am

Hot Air calls it Blog-a-Rahma. Nice.

58 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:56:38am

Rahmablagobamagate.

59 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:56:47am

Charles,
What was the weapon again? Something about exploding the sun's rays. Therefore, if you explode the sun's rays, you explode the universe. CLASSIC!

60 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:56:52am

How about ...
... FirstGate

/in other words, stay tuned ... heh

61 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:57:20am

ObamaRahmaBlogogate

62 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:57:56am

A Few Modern lines from Anything Goes (Sorry Cole Porter)
(some from the last open thread):

When Christmas trees are out of season
replaced by, for PC reasons, Festivus poles...
Anything Goes!

Old authors too, who once wrote pretty things
now write their crap to fling at some passing proles...
Anything Goes!

The world has gone mad today
and good's bad today
and wrong's (W)right today
what a sight today!
And those gents today
you gave some cents today
were once bank CEOs!

So now the One, by racial virtue
can sign all his bills to hurt you; I guess that shows...
Anything Goes!

63 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:58:08am

re: #60 pre-Boomer Marine brat

How about ...
... FirstGate

/in other words, stay tuned ... heh

I like.

Laundry-list-gate

64 Syrah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:58:09am

re: #55 Daisy

Rhamadahmadingdong. Or it that too too .. :) ?

Not long enough. Lets try Rhamadahmadingdonggate.

Will that work?

65 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:58:14am

"because all you of Earth are idiots!"....well he may be onto something there...

66 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:58:42am

re: #65 albusteve

"because all you of Earth are idiots!"....well he may be onto something there...

Only 52%

67 Karridine  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:59:02am

re: #55 Daisy

The As-Yet Unopened Gate

Threshold Buy-Passes Gate

Blago Ruins EVERYTHING Gate

Teflon Goes Sticky-Gate

68 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:59:09am

re: #58 6pat6

Rahmablagobamagate.

Like it! I'll change my other a little to : RhamObamadingdong. Nah. Your's is better. As is Blog-a-Rahma (see #57)

69 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:59:46am

re: #66 NYCHardhat

re: #65 albusteve

"because all you of Earth are idiots!"....well he may be onto something there...

Only 52%

Of American voters. Let's not forget the 97% of the rest of the world that thinks BHO is the shit!

70 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 11:59:51am

Well, my club beat one of the top French clubs, second game in one week, it was away this time, down in Frenchland.
Looks like it was an ugly game, but a win is a win! We're top of the table now, unbeaten, yeah!

(Two more games to go ...)

71 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:00:03pm

re: #66 NYCHardhat

Only 52%

Jeff is a donk...so I agree it's misleading...

72 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:00:40pm

re: #63 NYCHardhat

I like.

Laundry-list-gate

Heh. Instead of "Gate", maybe something to do with "Barn Door"?

73 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:00:52pm

re: #64 Syrah

Not long enough. Lets try Rhamadahmadingdonggate.

Will that work?

It sure does! "Gate" was exactly what was missing ..

74 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:01:00pm

re: #69 6pat6

97%? Is that so? I thought it was closer to either 99.9% (cause I'm a cynic) or maybe 70% (they like Bush in Africa, don't they?)

75 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:01:49pm

re: #74 davinvalkri

97%? Is that so? I thought it was closer to either 99.9% (cause I'm a cynic) or maybe 70% (they like Bush in Africa, don't they?)

we know the Bushmen do...

76 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:02:03pm

re: #74 davinvalkri

I am not real sure. My pollling responses have a 75%+/- error ratio built in!

77 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:02:15pm

I'mappalledbyallmyclosefriends gate?

78 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:02:20pm

Faith Healing Parents Assert Religious Rights


A Clackamas County, Ore., couple accused of letting their infant daughter die by relying on prayer, rather than medicine, today asked that the charges be dropped, arguing that they infringe on their freedom of religion and their right to raise their children in their own way.

Carl Worthington, 28, and his wife, Raylene, 25, belong to a church that believes in faith healing, and police said that, instead of going to a doctor when their 15-month-old daughter Ava got sick, they turned to prayer.

The infant girl died March 2 from bacterial bronchial pneumonia and an infection, both of which could have been cured with common antibiotics, the medical examiner said.

79 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:02:43pm

re: #77 Daisy

I-had-no-idea-they-were-doing-that-shit-gate.

80 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:03:12pm

re: #75 albusteve

BOOOOOO!
No, seriously, bad pun, bad pun!

81 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:03:12pm

re: #79 6pat6

I-had-no-idea-they-were-doing-that-shit-gate.

LoL!

82 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:03:25pm

I-am-as-clueless-and-as-blameless-as-it-gets-gate

83 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:03:30pm

How about
I'maDemocratwhatthehelldidyouexpectgate

84 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:03:35pm

re: #69 6pat6

Of American voters. Let's not forget the 97% of the rest of the world that thinks BHO is the shit!

I don't know if they think he is the shit or they want out country to be shit.

85 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:04:22pm

Can't stop laughing .. notagate

86 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:04:35pm

re: #73 Daisy

It sure does! "Gate" was exactly what was missing ..

Does it seem to anyone else like the Dems have become a 'Gated community?

87 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:05:06pm

re: #49 6pat6

Alanis Morrisette. Icky.

/well, hey, let me make it up to you

88 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:05:26pm

Rahm Emanuel just looks like a crooked little bastard, to me. A sleazy bottom-feeder lawyer. Oh, wait, I believe he IS!

89 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:05:48pm

re: #86 hermit

Does it seem to anyone else like the Dems have become a 'Gated community?

Gated against reality. Moonbatgate.

90 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:06:08pm

Musical chairs anyone?

91 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:06:26pm

re: #77 Daisy

I'mappalledbyallmyclosefriends gate?

when the MSM gets done with it it will be the GOPtreasongate

92 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:06:32pm

I-didn't-throw-Chicago-politics-as-usual-under-the -bus-fast-enough-gate.

93 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:06:34pm

re: #83 LGoPs

This-isn't-the-Blago-I-know-gate?

94 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:06:40pm

They-ain't-be-tellin'-me-shit-'bout-nuttin'-gate!

95 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:06:44pm

re: #83 LGoPs

How about
I'maDemocratwhatthehelldidyouexpectgate

We done that! What about a pointed stick?

96 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:07:15pm

Bush-lied-gate

97 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:07:21pm

We-are-fucked gate.

98 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:07:33pm

re: #88 6pat6

Rahm Emanuel just looks like a crooked little bastard, to me. A sleazy bottom-feeder lawyer. Oh, wait, I believe he IS!

And contrary to what Grandmothers' the world over have insisted, sometimes you can tell a book by it's cover .. especially when it opens its mouth and snarls, like Emmanuel routinely does.

99 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:07:51pm

re: #87 Killian Bundy

Joe Walsh. More talent in that man's belly-button lint than Alanis Morrisette could ever hope to have!

100 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:07:52pm

re: #80 davinvalkri

BOOOOOO!
No, seriously, bad pun, bad pun!

I'm no OP for sure

101 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:07:55pm

re: #97 MandyManners

We-are-fucked gate.

There it is. Mandy with the uppercut to the jaw.

102 stuiec  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:08:27pm

What percentage of the Plan 9 from Outer Space screenplay have you used up, Charles?

What's the next film after that one's exhausted? (Robot Monster is a good candidate. Or Glen and Glenda, if you're on an Ed Wood kick as opposed to a crappy sci-fi kick.)

103 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:08:32pm

re: #88 6pat6

Rahm Emanuel just looks like a crooked little bastard, to me. A sleazy bottom-feeder lawyer. Oh, wait, I believe he IS!

* * *
Rahm was one hottie in ballet tights, and I speak from personal experience!

Rahm Emanuel used his Clinton "executive" pomp to pre-empt other dancers from their reserved rehearsal space at DuPont Circle or Friendship Heights' Dance Place studio in Washington DC during his glory days, so he could do some barr work!

104 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:08:46pm

re: #97 MandyManners

We-are-fucked gate.

Mandy wins!

105 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:08:59pm

re: #99 6pat6

Joe Walsh. More talent in that man's belly-button lint than Alanis Morrisette could ever hope to have!

/she's got way more Grammys

106 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:09:02pm

re: #99 6pat6

Joe Walsh. More talent in that man's belly-button lint than Alanis Morrisette could ever hope to have!

and further James Gang was the best power trio EVAH!

107 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:09:28pm

re: #102 stuiec

What percentage of the Plan 9 from Outer Space screenplay have you used up, Charles?

What's the next film after that one's exhausted? (Robot Monster is a good candidate. Or Glen and Glenda, if you're on an Ed Wood kick as opposed to a crappy sci-fi kick.)

You ain't seen nothing yet. The whole 80 or so minutes of it is a comedic gem. He can go months with this stuff.

108 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:10:04pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

Faith Healing Parents Assert Religious Rights

Oh, dear me. They let their infant die a slow and agonizing death.

109 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:10:09pm

re: #105 Killian Bundy

/she's got way more Grammys

Shows you what little relevance the Grammys have, too.

110 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:10:19pm

re: #91 albusteve

when the MSM gets done with it it will be the GOPtreasongate

Just look to #96 NYC Hardhat's "Bush Lied Gate" for the headline! He inherited all this blah blah the devil made me do it blah blah ..

111 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:10:26pm

proof...

Youtube Video

112 alegrias  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:10:29pm

re: #97 MandyManners

We-are-fucked gate.

* * *
No, we're not inhaling this crap.
You can't me me swallow this.
I'm not taking it.

The Opposition Shall Rise Again. Seriously, why give up now?

113 razorbacker  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:10:55pm

For decades, my wife and daughter have made cookies and brownies for Christmas presents. They're good cookies and folks that know them start dropping hints along about Halloween, "Y'all are gonna make cookies again this year, ain't ya?" One of my favorite memories is my nephew opening his gift and finding a store-bought present and asking with horror in his voice, "This don't mean I don't get cookies, does it?"

But my darling has a hitch in her gitalong so I figured that this year there wasn't going to be a cookie-baking.

'Til late yesterday evening when the daughter pulls up and says gimme a hand, Dad, I need help getting everything out of the car. And I go out and her little Vibe is loaded as full as it'll go with flour and sugar and butter and pecans and walnuts and Hersey's kisses and M&Ms and marshmallows and shortening and all the other things that go with making dozens and dozens of dozens of cookies.

Daughter woke her mom up about six this morning and set her in the kitchen with a bowl and ingredients and started heating up the ovens and right now the house smells just amazing. They're singing along to Christmas songs and laughing about everything and the kitchen is an absolute mess. I think that there's going to be Christmas this year, too.

'Cause of my daughter. I'm always proud of her, but right now I'm just about proud enough to bust.

114 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:11:07pm

Quote of the day:
"Whatever you give a woman, she will make greater. If you give her sperm, she'll give you a baby. If you give her a house, she'll give you a home. If you give her groceries, she'll give you a meal. If you give her a smile, she'll give you her heart. She multiplies and enlarges what is given to her.
So, if you give her any crap, be ready to receive a ton of shit.

115 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:11:30pm

re: #110 Daisy

Just look to #96 NYC Hardhat's "Bush Lied Gate" for the headline! He inherited all this blah blah the devil made me do it blah blah ..

exactly...we're not stoopid!

116 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:11:47pm

re: #112 alegrias

* * *
No, we're not inhaling this crap.
You can't me me swallow this.
I'm not taking it.

The Opposition Shall Rise Again. Seriously, why give up now?

I'm just curious how fucked up it will be before they get the wrecking crew in.

117 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:11:54pm

re: #97 MandyManners

Is it that bad? I might end up taking a lot of self-righteousness in the ass for a while now, but I think most people here are stronger than that!

118 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:11:54pm

re: #113 razorbacker

That's cool as hell! Good for you!

119 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:12:48pm

re: #113 razorbacker

I just got a little hope for humanity back. Now my deficit's a little better.

120 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:13:21pm

re: #97 MandyManners

We-are-fucked gate.

Un-fuckable!

121 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:14:18pm

re: #117 davinvalkri

Is it that bad? I might end up taking a lot of self-righteousness in the ass for a while now, but I think most people here are stronger than that!

No. You are right. No matter how fucked up it gets, this country will come back. We always have and always will. This is America.

122 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:14:40pm

'Cause of my daughter. I'm always proud of her, but right now I'm just about proud enough to bust.

Happiness and goodness. I'm proud right next to you! Merry Christmas.

123 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:14:40pm

re: #120 jcm

Nothing comes up when I hit the link! Does the site you linked to allow hotlinking?

(Link Link Link!)

124 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:15:15pm

more proof...there's alot proof out there...

Youtube Video

125 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:16:30pm

re: #123 davinvalkri

Nothing comes up when I hit the link! Does the site you linked to allow hotlinking?

(Link Link Link!)

Different link.

Un-fuckable!

126 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:16:47pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

Faith Healing Parents Assert Religious Rights

Gotta prosecute them. Religious rights are not absolute. Human sacrafice would never be allowed to placate the gods.
These parents had a duty to protect their child & to give them a pass would set a very bad precedent.

127 yma o hyd  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:16:55pm

re: #113 razorbacker

Thats just lovely!
Give the two ladies a huge hug from me - and pat yerself on the back for marrying a brilliant woman and raising a lovely daughter!

128 Daisy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:17:06pm

re: #122 Daisy

'Cause of my daughter. I'm always proud of her, but right now I'm just about proud enough to bust.

Happiness and goodness. I'm proud right next to you! Merry Christmas.

Meant for razorback#113.

129 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:17:14pm

La Grange

/I've seen them in concert a few times, kinda

130 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:17:29pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

Faith Healing Parents Assert Religious Rights

they need to go to jail.

131 6pat6  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:17:32pm

We are fucked in the same sense we were during the four year regime of that hopeless douchebag Carter. BHO will probably do similar things to thoroughly fuck things up in the US, screw us where possible around the world, and get the boot after four miserable, painful, and excruciating years. Then, America will wake up again and we will elect adults to the Executive and Legislative branches of gub'mint.

132 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:17:42pm

re: #95 hermit

We done that! What about a pointed stick?

That was great......one of my favorite routines...thanks.

133 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:17:46pm

re: #114 debutaunt

Quote of the day:
"Whatever you give a woman, she will make greater. If you give her sperm, she'll give you a baby. If you give her a house, she'll give you a home. If you give her groceries, she'll give you a meal. If you give her a smile, she'll give you her heart. She multiplies and enlarges what is given to her.
So, if you give her any crap, be ready to receive a ton of shit.

That about sums it up for me.

134 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:20:08pm

re: #126 opnion

If religious toleration were absolute, human sacrifice would be A-OK. That said, it isn't, that's child negligence, I hope they lose bad.

135 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:20:11pm

Er, I'm back for a few minutes. What did I miss?

136 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:20:17pm

re: #97 MandyManners

We-are-fucked gate.

Actually it should be You-are-fucked gate......as delivered by the democrats.

137 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:20:31pm

re: #129 Killian Bundy

La Grange

/I've seen them in concert a few times, kinda

oh yeah!....given Billy Gibbons is a master of boogie and the Texas shred...but alas they are hardly the James Gang

138 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:20:58pm

re: #117 davinvalkri

Is it that bad? I might end up taking a lot of self-righteousness in the ass for a while now, but I think most people here are stronger than that!

Just wait till the taxes come due.

139 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:21:03pm

re: #135 Walter L. Newton

Er, I'm back for a few minutes. What did I miss?

just a little behind yer ears...nobody will notice tho

140 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:21:36pm

re: #135 Walter L. Newton

Er, I'm back for a few minutes. What did I miss?

Someone said you are bi-sexual.

141 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:21:37pm

re: #120 jcm

Un-fuckable!

No image.

142 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:22:34pm

re: #141 MandyManners

No image.


Try this one....

re: #125 jcm

Different link.

Un-fuckable!

143 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:22:44pm

re: #97 MandyManners

We-are-fucked gate.

Are you talking for ALL LIZARDS. WHat in the hell do you mean WE, you can talk for the "WE." Ploome hineni told me that on the last thread.

/:)

144 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:22:52pm

re: #136 LGoPs

Actually it should be You-are-fucked gate......as delivered by the democrats.

They're fucked, too.

145 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:22:54pm

re: #134 davinvalkri

If religious toleration were absolute, human sacrifice would be A-OK. That said, it isn't, that's child negligence, I hope they lose bad.

i do too.
a child is dead because parental neglect. their motivation is immaterial.

146 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:23:11pm

re: #140 debutaunt

Someone said you are bi-sexual.

Which side?

147 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:23:52pm

re: #142 jcm

Just wait until CBBHO gets ahold of the military budget. No fifes.

148 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:23:52pm

re: #139 albusteve

just a little behind yer ears...nobody will notice tho

LOL

149 Emperor Norton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:24:09pm

You missed the denouement of Plan 9 From Outer Space, where space alien Obama rips off his rubber mask and reveals himself to be . . . oh, it's too horrible.

150 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:24:26pm

re: #143 Walter L. Newton

Are you talking for ALL LIZARDS. WHat in the hell do you mean WE, you can talk for the "WE." Ploome hineni told me that on the last thread.

/:)

Did she bruise you?

151 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:24:37pm

re: #144 MandyManners

They're fucked, too.

Yeah, but they probably like it......bastards

152 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:24:38pm

re: #134 davinvalkri

If religious toleration were absolute, human sacrifice would be A-OK. That said, it isn't, that's child negligence, I hope they lose bad.


They need jail time. The movie The Exorcism of Audrey Rose was based on an actual incident. The young woman was epileptic & needed her meds.
Her religious fanatic parents saw her as pocessed & called in a Catholic priest exorcist. He took he off of her meds to make her more receptive.
The girld died, the priest was prosecuted & convicted. I thought that the parents should have been tried as well.

153 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:24:52pm

re: #146 Walter L. Newton

Which side?

ROFLMAO!

154 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:24:56pm

re: #146 Walter L. Newton

Which side?

Something about some sexual ability you have - I was impressed and mystified.

155 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:25:00pm

re: #97 MandyManners

We-are-fucked gate.

A scandal of 0bamic proportions!

156 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:25:07pm

re: #140 debutaunt

Someone said you are bi-sexual.

Not true. They just said he likes to have it both ways.

/words matter

157 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:25:43pm

re: #151 LGoPs

Yeah, but they probably like it......bastards

Only the elite.

158 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:26:06pm

re: #154 debutaunt

Something about some sexual ability you have - I was impressed and mystified.

He can lick his eyebrow?

159 Syrah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:26:14pm

re: #131 6pat6

We are fucked in the same sense we were during the four year regime of that hopeless douchebag Carter. BHO will probably do similar things to thoroughly fuck things up in the US, screw us where possible around the world, and get the boot after four miserable, painful, and excruciating years. Then, America will wake up again and we will elect adults to the Executive and Legislative branches of gub'mint.

The difference is that Carter spoke "hairshirt". Obama speaks "sunshine". Obama will be a hell of a lot harder to throw out of office than Carter was.

160 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:26:15pm

oh no

161 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:26:27pm

re: #156 rightymouse

Not true. They just said he likes to have it both ways.

/words matter

Damn. I missed the subtlety.

162 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:26:34pm

re: #154 debutaunt

Something about some sexual ability you have - I was impressed and mystified.

WOuld you like me to send you my calling card? Just click on my name, send me an email with your address./:)

163 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:26:42pm

re: #152 opnion

Wasn't in "The Exorcism of Emily Rose" or something like that? But yeah, from the description you gave, the parents should have been prosecuted.

164 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:26:46pm

re: #155 gmsc

A scandal of 0bamic proportions!

For four years.

165 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:26:49pm

re: #158 MandyManners

He can lick his eyebrow?

Where is your mind?

166 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:27:04pm

re: #158 MandyManners

He can lick his eyebrow?

*****vapors****

167 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:27:19pm

re: #158 MandyManners

He can lick his eyebrow?

Yowwww!...do it Walter! do it!

168 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:27:39pm

re: #150 MandyManners

Did she bruise you?

No, pissed me off. But that's alright, I'm a man. (somehow I don't think that will score any points with some here).

169 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:27:41pm

re: #165 NYCHardhat

Where is your mind?

I locked it in the filing cabinet.

170 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:27:43pm

re: #161 debutaunt

Damn. I missed the subtlety.


Happens to me all the time.

171 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:28:23pm

re: #138 MandyManners

Oh. Yeah. But we're still not all fucked! I refuse to believe it! (insert inspirational real life or anime speech here)! Do you hear me! Americans are indomitable, regardless of which incompetent ******** is at the helm!

172 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:28:36pm

re: #169 MandyManners

I locked it in the filing cabinet.

As least you still know where it is.

173 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:28:41pm

re: #166 debutaunt

*****vapors****

Smelling salts?

174 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:29:00pm

re: #172 NYCHardhat

As least you still know where it is.

O-Z

175 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:29:20pm

re: #168 Walter L. Newton

No, pissed me off. But that's alright, I'm a man. (somehow I don't think that will score any points with some here).

No moonbats here.

176 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:29:47pm

re: #158 MandyManners

He can lick his eyebrow?

I have not had a drink of booze in 2 years. I don't do drugs. So, what has me absolutely confused is when did I post that bit of fact on LGF, drunk, sober or otherwise. Or are one of you really someone I've know in real life?

177 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:30:02pm

re: #171 davinvalkri

I feel for The Kid's generation that will have to pick up the pieces.

178 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:30:07pm

re: #147 MandyManners

Just wait until CBBHO gets ahold of the military budget. No fifes.

/no more space exploration either but, look on the bright side, that'll leave plenty of money for kindergarten sex education

179 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:30:33pm

re: #177 MandyManners

I feel for The Kid's generation that will have to pick up the pieces.

Age?

180 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:30:55pm

re: #159 Syrah

The difference is that Carter spoke "hairshirt". Obama speaks "sunshine". Obama will be a hell of a lot harder to throw out of office than Carter was.


The other thing is that Obama will increase the pool of those accessing government entitlements. They tend to vote Democrat.

181 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:31:37pm

re: #176 Walter L. Newton

I have not had a drink of booze in 2 years. I don't do drugs. So, what has me absolutely confused is when did I post that bit of fact on LGF, drunk, sober or otherwise. Or are one of you really someone I've know in real life?

Your neighbor sent us postcards.

182 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:31:51pm

re: #176 Walter L. Newton

I have not had a drink of booze in 2 years. I don't do drugs. So, what has me absolutely confused is when did I post that bit of fact on LGF, drunk, sober or otherwise. Or are one of you really someone I've know in real life?

I saw it on a 'Walter digs the ladies' message board.

183 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:32:25pm

re: #172 NYCHardhat

As least you still know where it is.

I've lost the key.

184 Syrah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:32:27pm

re: #180 opnion

The other thing is that Obama will increase the pool of those accessing government entitlements. They tend to vote Democrat.

He will make them as dependent on Government as if they are slaves to it. They will be truly pitiable.

185 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:32:29pm

re: #181 rightymouse

hahahahahahahhaaha

186 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:33:02pm

re: #183 MandyManners

I've lost the key.

D'oh!

187 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:33:03pm

Just about out of here. Busy week. This will be the forth show tonight in the last 3 days. One more weekend of this Christmas show, and then 3 week until we open our next show. Oh, but we have a concert on Jan. 3rd, and a special private party on Dec. 31st, so, not much of a holiday vacation coming up. Show business, emphasis on business.

188 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:33:18pm

re: #178 Killian Bundy

/no more space exploration either but, look on the bright side, that'll leave plenty of money for kindergarten sex education

Well, there goes my laughter.

189 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:33:29pm

re: #179 NYCHardhat

Age?

Eight.

190 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:34:07pm

re: #185 debutaunt

hahahahahahahhaaha


Your #182 was lololol!

191 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:34:51pm

re: #182 debutaunt

I saw it on a 'Walter digs the ladies' message board.

I think I'll have my girlfriend explain the finer details later tonight after the show. I have her post on LGF. She's coming tonight, to the show I mean, well, that too... ah... ok... shut up now Walter...

192 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:36:01pm

re: #191 Walter L. Newton

I think I'll have my girlfriend explain the finer details later tonight after the show. I have her post on LGF. She's coming tonight, to the show I mean, well, that too... ah... ok... shut up now Walter...

welcome to WalterWorld

193 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:36:01pm

re: #177 MandyManners

I feel for The Kid's generation that will have to pick up the pieces.

I've worked hard on mine. Had to teach them critical thinking on my own....couldn't count on the schools to do that. They have well tuned bullshit detectors which makes them good conservatives......

194 Lincolntf  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:36:02pm

re: #171 davinvalkri

I kinda feel the same way, but my faith has wavered in the last decade or so. Apart from the practical aspect (Lib programs are designed to last forever, and usually do), there's the dumbing down/entitled class aspect. A nation populated by people who have no respect for the ideals of their Nation (because of public schools, TV, etc.), is not likely to hold onto those ideals for long. As tens of millions of people (I wish I was exaggerating the number) depend on Government handouts, they are less likely to question the Government.

Leftism always fails, the question is whether or not it drags the rest of the Country down with it.

195 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:36:07pm

re: #184 Syrah

He will make them as dependent on Government as if they are slaves to it. They will be truly pitiable.

I believe that he will do that. He has let us know tht he wants to spread the wealth. He will swear to defend the very constitution that he criticises for not having a provision to do economic 'justice."
The larger the entitled class, the more Democrat voters.

196 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:37:36pm

re: #159 Syrah

The difference is that Carter spoke "hairshirt". Obama speaks "sunshine". Obama will be a hell of a lot harder to throw out of office than Carter was.

What's 'hairshirt'? Never heard that before.....

197 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:37:41pm

re: #191 Walter L. Newton

I think I'll have my girlfriend explain the finer details later tonight after the show. I have her post on LGF. She's coming tonight, to the show I mean, well, that too... ah... ok... shut up now Walter...


...and ? and?

198 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:38:47pm

re: #197 debutaunt

...and ? and?

Details at 11:00

199 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:41:37pm

For those who missed it last night, here are my sequential 0bama posters:

Sign 1

Sign 2

Sign 3

Sign 4

Sign 5

200 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:43:25pm

re: #193 LGoPs

I've worked hard on mine. Had to teach them critical thinking on my own....couldn't count on the schools to do that. They have well tuned bullshit detectors which makes them good conservatives......

That's why I send mine to a private, religious school.

201 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:43:26pm

Out of here.

202 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:43:29pm

re: #195 opnion

The larger the entitled class, the more Democrat voters.

Not all Dems are lazy. But they think that the gummint should take care of the poor. And the lazy poor agree. In that respect, they all encourage this generational nightmare for the sake of votes. Makes me sick to my stomach because none of them seem to understand that it is in the Dem leadership interest to keep people in their victim group web so that there is no escape.

203 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:43:43pm

re: #199 gmsc

For those who missed it last night, here are my sequential 0bama posters:

Sign 1

Sign 2

Sign 3

Sign 4

Sign 5

Bravo!

204 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:44:09pm

re: #201 Walter L. Newton

Out of here.

Take care, Walter!

205 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:44:55pm

Obama promises to go to a nation in the heart of Islam, to repair the damage. My guess is he will say something about violence not being the answer & then launch into an apology for all of America's faults.
Do the Jihadis say, "Well that sounds reasonable. We should stop all hostile activities", or do they view it as weakness & Obama as an individual sympathetic to them leading the kafirs?

206 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:45:58pm

Too funny......

207 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:46:31pm

re: #199 gmsc

For those who missed it last night, here are my sequential 0bama posters:

Sign 1

Sign 2

Sign 3

Sign 4

Sign 5

Excellent.....

208 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:47:10pm

re: #202 rightymouse

Not all Dems are lazy. But they think that the gummint should take care of the poor. And the lazy poor agree. In that respect, they all encourage this generational nightmare for the sake of votes. Makes me sick to my stomach because none of them seem to understand that it is in the Dem leadership interest to keep people in their victim group web so that there is no escape.

That's exactly why the Dems stand athwart anything that will help pull people up......like school vouchers. Better to keep them on the plantation. They'd rather hand out fish than teach people how to fish....

209 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:47:32pm

Don't bother looking for news on the Fox News Channel for the next few months. They've switched over into 24/7 Caylee Anthony mode.

/FOX NEWS ALERT: she's still dead and her mother's still in jail charged with murder, ad lib for the next 23:59:55/7

210 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:48:20pm
211 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:49:33pm

re: #210 ploome hineni

is there any reason you would link to a pr0n site here?

2nd hand link......

212 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:49:52pm

re: #210 ploome hineni

is there any reason you would link to a pr0n site here?

Did everybody go to check out jcm's linked site?

213 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:49:57pm

re: #208 LGoPs

That's exactly why the Dems stand athwart anything that will help pull people up......like school vouchers. Better to keep them on the plantation. They'd rather hand out fish than teach people how to fish....

It's about power. The Dem party wants a large pool of people dependent on their largese.
We are a generous country & should & do help the needy, but it becomes toxic when it becomes a generational pathology.

214 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:51:17pm

re: #208 LGoPs

That's exactly why the Dems stand athwart anything that will help pull people up......like school vouchers. Better to keep them on the plantation. They'd rather hand out fish than teach people how to fish....

And the people who take the fish can't figure this out.

215 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:52:22pm

re: #214 rightymouse

And the people who take the fish can't figure this out.

Exactly. No one else can make you a slave. You are the only one who can do that.

216 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:53:22pm
217 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:53:41pm

re: #213 opnion

It's about power. The Dem party wants a large pool of people dependent on their largese.
We are a generous country & should & do help the needy, but it becomes toxic when it becomes a generational pathology.

The Dems have also tried to destroy the charitable functions of our churches.

218 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:54:56pm

re: #215 gmsc

Exactly. No one else can make you a slave. You are the only one who can do that.

Liberty is frightening.... there is the chance of failure.
Liberals remove the chance of failure.

Essential Liberty sold for temporary security.

219 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:56:15pm

re: #215 gmsc

Exactly. No one else can make you a slave. You are the only one who can do that.

Yep. People make choices for themselves. The gummint can't make up for stupidity.

220 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:56:20pm

re: #216 ploome hineni

does that answer my question?

2nd hand link, cute pic. I don't always backtrack the whole site.

221 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:56:40pm

re: #191 Walter L. Newton

I think I'll have my girlfriend explain the finer details later tonight after the show. I have her post on LGF. She's coming tonight, to the show I mean, well, that too... ah... ok... shut up now Walter...

OHMYGAWWWWWWWWWWWWDHENRYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

:D

222 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:58:45pm

re: #218 jcm

Liberty is frightening.... there is the chance of failure.
Liberals remove the chance of failure.

Essential Liberty sold for temporary security.

and sold so cheaply for false security.
ie. a welfare check and a filthy apt. in a dangerous neighborhood.
selling your liberty is a bad idea.
and those who seek to buy it can not be trusted.

223 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:59:35pm

re: #217 rightymouse

The Dems have also tried to destroy the charitable functions of our churches.


Every time there is a professional stuy, results show that republicans are more charitable in their personal lives then Democrats.
It seems that Liberals believe in "Collective" action.
You always hear that we are not taxed enough, but you never, ever see anyone who says that make an extra contribution to the IRS.

224 notutopia  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 12:59:55pm

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Damn...so close, yet so far away!
Bravo to his endurance and strength...remarkable accomplishment here.

After 10 Months at Sea, Rower Rescued 65 Miles Short of Goal

225 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:00:45pm

re: #199 gmsc

BURMA-SHAVE!

226 Shug  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:02:44pm

re: #209 Killian Bundy

Don't bother looking for news on the Fox News Channel for the next few months. They've switched over into 24/7 Caylee Anthony mode.

/FOX NEWS ALERT: she's still dead and her mother's still in jail charged with murder, ad lib for the next 23:59:55/7

FNC primetime line-up
8 PM A loofah
10 PM Aruba

227 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:02:51pm

re: #219 rightymouse

Not that they won't stop trying of course.

228 right_on_target  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:03:43pm

Indian Navy gets more pirates.

229 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:04:29pm

Not from a Pr0n site...

Just Craigslist.

SWF who isn't asking too much

I am a single, free-spirted, web-savvy thirtysomething female. Living in the gorgeous Caroll Gardens for the past year, I love life and am only looking for a man who is not an idiotic pig-headed beer-swilling moron (which seems to be hard to find in this city). This is my final plea to the Craigslist community. I own my own internet business which means I don't get to leave the house much, but I do know the internet and its dating potential. So far it has let me down every single time.

Here is what I am looking for. It's not much. If you're this guy or know this guy, have him contact me right away.

-non smoker

-must love cats and be open to the idea of future adoptions

-must not be more than one to five stops away from Carroll Gardens F train in either direction

-must not be opposed to wicker furniture

-must be 420 friendly

-must clean up hair from the tub after a trim, a ring of hair around the edge is GROSS

-past bar tending/table-serving experience a plus but not necessary

-some knowledge of vintage wine

-must be fluent in 2 languages (English DOES NOT count); I still like to practice my French from study abroad

-toilet paper must go over, NEVER under, when placed in dispenser

-PUT the lid DOWN. Animals have better manners than most men

-no stockbrokers, unemployed musicians, actors, or baristas

-no ravers, goths, punks, or rude boys

-musical taste must include, but not be limited to, Kingston Trip, Buffy Sainte-Marie, and Judy Collins

-name must not begin with an R, a J, or a B (Js are negotiable; Rs are not. Bs should consider that if they treat a cat nicely, it will respond accordingly; but if you scare it by approaching too fast, of course it will attack)

-must like scented candles (not vanilla); no incense

-must be willing to pay for dinner at least once a week at a Zagat-rated restaurant after proper research and scouting of restaurant

-must own more than 3 items from ?The North Face? jacket line but no more than 5

-owning a car is a plus, but it can't be a hatchback (some standards)

-I ski one weekend a year, so you ski. No shredders.

-must love Gary Larson, and hate Dilbert

-passionate about animal rights, but willing to take in the circus when it comes to town

-must read at least 3 books a month, no comics unless Gary Larson

-must have read complete works of Jane Austen

-must know how to turn a Word document into a PDF

-must be on T-Mobile for Fave 5 access

-must love pinball and not play ping pong

-3 out of your 5 favorite movies should be John Hughes films

-must agree to watch "The Hills" on MTV on Sundays but hate that bitch Heidi, she is everything wrong with womankind

-must know CPR and have current certification, ++ for SCUBA certification

-must be home from 2-6pm on Saturdays to receive packages; bonus points if you're an Ebay power seller too!

-NO FELONS!

-must have all limbs, no quads (not biased, just poor past experience)

-Ivy League education desirable, but Amherst, UPenn, Colgate, Vassar, Georgetown etc. acceptable

-must have Scrabulous installed on Facebook during work hours

-must prefer dark chocolate over milk; no omnivores

-must like North-Eastern microbrews, NO COLORADO, NO EXCEPTIONS

-no corduroy pants, jackets, shirts, socks, caps, etc. And while we're on the subject of hats, no hats at all. Having a hat as part of your job costume is not an excuse.


I know the guy for me is out there. I've come so close to finding him in perfect form so many times. If you are this know or know this guy, PLEASE contact me. I am willing to make a few sacrifices, but not many. If you see yourself in even a FEW of my specifications, you are invited to apply. Think of it more like a guidebook to my heart.

Please reply with a little bit about yourself, include pics.

230 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:05:05pm

re: #2 saberry0530

Take me to your leader!

saberry -

First, take me to a LADDER, I will see your LEADER LATER.

-S-

231 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:06:13pm

re: #229 jcm

Hope she has a good supply of batteries.

232 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:06:57pm

re: #230 Dr. Shalit

saberry -

First, take me to a LADDER, I will see your LEADER LATER.

-S-

Huh?

"I can read writin' when it's writ, but I can't read writin' when it's wrote, and this writin' is wroten rotten."
-Popeye

233 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:07:08pm

re: #229 jcm

Are all ladies that demanding? If so, I'm a bachelor for life...

234 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:07:14pm

re: #229 jcm

jcm -

Too bad about "no 'r's" - Otherwise, Regis Philbin might be her kind of guy.

-S-

235 Cathypop  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:07:24pm

re: #231 MandyManners

I'm pretty sure she buys them on line by the case

236 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:07:42pm

re: #223 opnion

Every time there is a professional stuy, results show that republicans are more charitable in their personal lives then Democrats.
It seems that Liberals believe in "Collective" action.
You always hear that we are not taxed enough, but you never, ever see anyone who says that make an extra contribution to the IRS.

I see the same type of studies and I'm gob-smacked that Dems are so cheap given their hyper-hot-air about the poor, etc. That said, my boss, who is a millionaire and a Dem, is not the greatest philanthropist and thinks that paying the kind of taxes he does is some sort of badge of honor. His wife itemizes every item she gives away to the Salvation Army and all told, it's peanuts. So weird.

237 Syrah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:07:45pm

re: #229 jcm

That has to be a joke.

238 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:07:57pm

" We are from France"...

239 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:07:59pm

re: #214 rightymouse

And the people who take the fish can't figure this out.

I didn't realize this "give the fish" thing was exclusively a Dem policy - I thought the criticism was applicable to international aid policy in general.
Of course if you're starving you take the fish and say thank you.
BTW is it mutually exclusive to give AND teach?
And which is a worse policy - to give and not to teach, or neither to give nor to teach?

240 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:08:14pm

re: #232 gmsc

Huh?

"I can read writin' when it's writ, but I can't read writin' when it's wrote, and this writin' is wroten rotten."
-Popeye

gmsc -

ROTFLMAO!

-S-

241 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:08:17pm

The more I read about Plan 9 the better it sounds. When, not I did not say if, things go South under BHO can we all move Plannineia?

242 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:08:19pm
243 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:08:46pm

re: #227 davinvalkri

Not that they won't stop trying of course.


Of course not. In liberal land, when one of their 'ideas' fail it's because not enough of it was done.

244 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:08:55pm

JCM

You've got to be kidding me! That's just pathetic.

Wow.

245 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:09:07pm

re: #240 Dr. Shalit

Ditto- LMAO

246 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:09:18pm

re: #236 rightymouse

I see the same type of studies and I'm gob-smacked that Dems are so cheap given their hyper-hot-air about the poor, etc. That said, my boss, who is a millionaire and a Dem, is not the greatest philanthropist and thinks that paying the kind of taxes he does is some sort of badge of honor. His wife itemizes every item she gives away to the Salvation Army and all told, it's peanuts. So weird.

Your boss & his wife prove the point.

247 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:09:54pm

re: #238 BigMoo

" We are from France"...

Big Moo -

A small planet next to REMULAC?

-S-

248 razorbacker  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:10:08pm

So I was over to Theo Spark's joint (no, not to look at the 'totties'. Lawsy, elevate your mind from the gutter, I go for the articles) and there is this article about the loss of gun rights in England. It's a long one, so y'all ought to bookmark it and read at your leisure. Instructive, and sobering.

ALL THE WAY DOWN THE SLIPPERY SLOPE: GUN PROHIBITION IN ENGLAND AND SOME LESSONS FOR CIVIL LIBERTIES IN AMERICA

[Copyright © 1999 Hamline Law Review. Originally published as 22 Hamline L. Rev. 399-465 (1999). Permission for [Link: WWW...] at this site generously granted by Hamline Law Review (web.hamline.edu/law/pages/lawreview/) and the authors. For educational use only. The printed edition remains canonical. For citational use please obtain a back issue from William S. Hein & Co., 1285 Main Street, Buffalo, New York 14209;[no phone numbers allowed] or[no phone numbers allowed].]

249 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:11:38pm

re: #237 Syrah

That has to be a joke.

One would hope so.....

250 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:11:51pm

*waves to rightymouse*

:D

Hiya, toots!

251 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:12:24pm

re: #230 Dr. Shalit

saberry -

First, take me to a LADDER, I will see your LEADER LATER.

-S-

The Aliens and the gas pump

Two Aliens land in Detroit, next to a Gas station. The Aliens waddle
out of their ship and look around. The first thing they see that
resembles a being is the Gas pump. The two Aliens approach. The
first one says "Earthling take me to your leader!"

He gets no response. The first Alien looks at his buddy then addresses
the pump again. "Earthling, I said Take me to your leader!"

Still no response. The first Alien then turns to the second and says
"If this Earthling doesn't show me some respect I'm going to blast
him!" . The second Alien replies "O.K. but, I'm just going to stand
down on the next block." The first Alien looks a little puzzled, but
waits for the other to waddle to the next block. He then addresses
the pump a third time. "Earthling take me to your leader!"

No response. The Alien then pulls out his ray-gun and shoots the pump.
After the explosion the Alien gets up dusts himself off then goes down
the block to his buddy, He then says to the second Alien "If you knew
that was going to happen why didn't you warn me?"

The second replies " I didn't know what was going to happen, but I'm
not going to mess with anyone who's penis can hang to the ground, wrap
around his body twice, and still stick it in his ear!"

252 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:12:33pm

re: #244 Miss Trixie

JCM

You've got to be kidding me! That's just pathetic.

Wow.

I hope it's a joke post, such an individual must be a very miserable sort.

253 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:12:33pm

re: #239 Spare O'Lake

I didn't realize this "give the fish" thing was exclusively a Dem policy - I thought the criticism was applicable to international aid policy in general.
Of course if you're starving you take the fish and say thank you.
BTW is it mutually exclusive to give AND teach?
And which is a worse policy - to give and not to teach, or neither to give nor to teach?


Actually it was originally a Chinese proverb.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

I'm sure that, philosophically, you can understand what the proverb meant.

254 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:12:40pm

re: #241 lifeofthemind

The more I read about Plan 9 the better it sounds. When, not I did not say if, things go South under BHO can we all move Plannineia?

I'll settle for Galt's Gulch.

255 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:14:39pm

re: #249 jcm

One would hope so.....

Does anybody know any guy who has read the complete works of Jane Austen? That guy's taste in music would no doubt include Cher & Madona.
Fabulous!

256 LEGION  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:15:11pm

Earth girls are easy.

257 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:15:27pm

re: #126 opnion

Gotta prosecute them. Religious rights are not absolute. Human sacrafice would never be allowed to placate the gods.
These parents had a duty to protect their child & to give them a pass would set a very bad precedent.

If you read the follow stories, this baby's uncle, age 16, died the same way: no medical treatment! Both families attend the same church.
God does heal: HE USES DOCTORS!

258 Mithrax  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:15:36pm

re: #256 LEGION

Earth girls are easy.

Coulda fooled me!

259 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:15:45pm

re: #256 LEGION

Says you!

260 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:16:10pm

re: #229 jcm


Good Lawd. I'm a woman and I'd hate being with her.

261 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:16:44pm

re: #257 Wishing

If you read the follow stories, this baby's uncle, age 16, died the same way: no medical treatment! Both families attend the same church.
God does heal: HE USES DOCTORS!

Exactly

262 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:16:48pm

re: #256 LEGION

Earth girls are easy.

re: #259 davinvalkri

Says you!

Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis say it, too.

263 LEGION  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:17:10pm

re: #259 davinvalkri

Yes sez me, why can't cha get any? And if you are a chick- ditch the manly fighter with the sword icon.

264 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:17:10pm

re: #250 Miss Trixie

*waves to rightymouse*

:D

Hiya, toots!


HI TRIXILICIOUS!

The menfolk finally made it out to get the tree! Woot!

265 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:17:11pm

re: #252 jcm

I hope it's a joke post, such an individual must be a very miserable sort.

Indeed. I've been to a few on-line dating spots and there's a lot of miserable folks out there. So sad and such a waste of potential.

266 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:17:18pm

re: #249 jcm

One would hope so.....

um, excuse me?
you don't think i am serious abt. each and every one of those requirements.
;)

267 Smilla  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:17:30pm

re: #229 jcm

Whatever happened to "opposites attract"?

You think she must be joking but then I remember a few days ago I couldn't help overhearing a work colleague was describing to her real estate agent on the phone the house she and her husband were looking for: must have northeast aspect, not be on a slope, have two garages.... the list then went on way past the "forget it" stage, like that single woman. They know what they want!

268 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:17:42pm

Remember On the Beach?

269 razorbacker  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:18:00pm

re: #253 rightymouse

Ever heard the Arkie version?

Give a man a beer and he's not so thirsty.

Show him where the ice chest is and he's drunk by noon.

270 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:18:12pm

re: #253 rightymouse

I'm sure that, philosophically, you can understand what the proverb meant.

Hit a man with a frozen fish...

271 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:18:19pm

re: #255 opnion

Does anybody know any guy who has read the complete works of Jane Austen? That guy's taste in music would no doubt include Cher & Madona.
Fabulous!

She want's a pet, not a man.

272 LEGION  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:18:36pm

re: #262 gmsc

Ding ding ding- you win the prize- that's the movie and the stars. And I did like his portrayal in The Fly also. I don't know his politics so I like him.
Jack Black for example- is now garbage.

273 Cygnus  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:18:50pm

re: #19 poopeedoo

BO Blackberry home!

That's 'Berry of color', you racist. ;)

274 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:19:08pm

re: #253 rightymouse

I'm sure that, philosophically, you can understand what the proverb meant.

Of course I understand the proverb.
What bugs me is when the general failure of international aid policy (not just American policy, by the way) is turned into a partisan political issue, presumably in order for one party or the the other to avoid taking responsibility.

275 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:19:24pm

re: #267 Smilla

Whatever happened to "opposites attract"?

It's right here!
;)

276 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:19:25pm

re: #266 nyc redneck

um, excuse me?
you don't think i am serious abt. each and every one of those requirements.
;)

LOL! Yes dear, after I finish cleaning the bathroom I'll manicure your toes.
;-P

277 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:19:48pm

re: #248 razorbacker

I go for the Totties pffft

278 LEGION  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:19:52pm

re: #268 lifeofthemind

They had an updated version of it also- it was pretty good also.

279 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:20:03pm

re: #246 opnion

Your boss & his wife prove the point.


Yep.

So do my moonbat parents who think that the gummint is the solution to poverty. And you can't really discuss the issue with them on any rational level, they just get mad.

280 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:20:06pm

re: #260 rightymouse

Good Lawd. I'm a woman and I'd hate being with her.

No kiddin! Any guy that answered that ad had to either be stark raving mad...or deserve her!

281 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:20:08pm

I like this one from craigslist - I have a huge bathroom:

I am a female in my mid 60's and I am looking for a room mate. Times are tight and I need some extra money.

I am willing to rent out my bathroom in my 1 bedroom east village home.

My bathroom is large. You can easily put a twin air mattress in there. I only ask that when I need to use the bathroom, you or your air mattress are not in it.

I do ask that when you are in the apartment, you confine yourself to the bathroom. I do not feel comfortable with a stranger walking around my living room. This might change as I get to know you better.

You may have guest over as long as they are cnfined to the bathroom as well. This might seem a bit odd but please remember the rent is $400 and the bathroom is large.

282 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:20:16pm

rightymouse

The menfolk finally made it out to get the tree! Woot!

Yay! Hubby feeling better?

283 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:20:28pm

re: #247 Dr. Shalit

Big Moo -

A small planet next to REMULAC?

-S-

XACTLY ! LOL
Akroyd cracked me up.

284 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:20:36pm

re: #267 Smilla

Whatever happened to "opposites attract"?

You think she must be joking but then I remember a few days ago I couldn't help overhearing a work colleague was describing to her real estate agent on the phone the house she and her husband were looking for: must have northeast aspect, not be on a slope, have two garages.... the list then went on way past the "forget it" stage, like that single woman. They know what they want!

We had a list for our house. A ranked listed, from must have to nice to have to wish to have. Actually got most of it but not all.

285 LEGION  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:20:44pm

re: #273 Cygnus

That's 'Berry of color', you racist. ;)

That's Berry Good--- heh heh-- ahhh the pun, the lowest form of humor.

286 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:20:53pm

re: #271 jcm

She want's a pet, not a man.

Could the post actually be for real? Nobady, but nobody could or want to meet those specs.

287 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:21:00pm

re: #229 jcm

According to Krauthammer, Obama is a guy with "moxie."

Maybe he should apply.

288 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:22:07pm

re: #286 opnion

Could the post actually be for real? Nobady, but nobody could or want to meet those specs.

It was really funny.

289 LEGION  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:22:29pm

re: #287 godfrey

Well, he has something- nerve, balls, hutspa--- he doesn't have integrity or decency or experience, ect ect.

290 Empire1  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:22:39pm

Ah, an open thread! I need a new pond filter, and the best price I've found for the one I want is at Webb's Water Gardens -- scroll down till you see the Tetra Pressurized Filters with Integrated UV. The one I'm after is the 2500-gallon one.

My problem is that I've never dealt with these people before, so I'm a little reluctant to send them that kind of money with no idea of their reputation. Have any of you dealt with them? What's been your experience, if so? I need lizard help, here!

291 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:22:41pm

re: #276 jcm

LOL! Yes dear, after I finish cleaning the bathroom I'll manicure your toes.
;-P

she is either a jokester or a really lonely person w/ no friends and no prospect of a boyfriend either.

292 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:22:43pm

re: #272 LEGION

Ding ding ding- you win the prize- that's the movie and the stars. And I did like his portrayal in The Fly also. I don't know his politics so I like him.
Jack Black for example- is now garbage.

Thanks!

Now I can celebrate this AND reaching a karma of 3,000!

I agree about performers and politics. I don't think many actors and actresses understand that their fortune was made via their ability to help us escape from real world concerns.

293 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:22:47pm

re: #229 jcm

The poster of the ad is either Rosanne Barr or Arianna Huffington-not sure which....
And don't really care ! lol

294 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:22:47pm

re: #263 LEGION

Yes sez me, why can't cha get any? And if you are a chick- ditch the manly fighter with the sword icon.

Been nipping some nog?

295 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:22:51pm

re: #270 debutaunt

Hit a man with a frozen fish...

I've never heard it called that...but I think I like it!

296 Cygnus  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:22:56pm

re: #67 Karridine

The As-Yet Unopened Gate

Threshold Buy-Passes Gate

Blago Ruins EVERYTHING Gate

Teflon Goes Sticky-Gate

Pride Goes Before a Fall-Gate

297 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:23:06pm

re: #289 LEGION

Well, he has something- nerve, balls, hutspa--- he doesn't have integrity or decency or experience, ect ect.

Yuck! Hairball?

298 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:23:15pm

re: #286 opnion

Could the post actually be for real? Nobady, but nobody could or want to meet those specs.

I'm split, I know people like that, not just women. Perfectly miserable because nothing or no one measures up, not realizing they don't meet their own criteria.

Could be real, tending toward humor.

299 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:23:26pm

re: #289 LEGION

"Gall."

300 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:24:20pm

re: #286 opnion

At what word did she lose you? Mine was "cat."

301 Cygnus  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:24:33pm

re: #285 LEGION

That's Berry Good--- heh heh-- ahhh the pun, the lowest form of humor.

Don't get yourself into a jam.

302 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:24:44pm
re: #263 LEGION

Yes sez me, why can't cha get any? And if you are a chick- ditch the manly fighter with the sword icon.

Drop Jack Skellington and maybe I'll consider it.

303 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:24:49pm

re: #287 godfrey

According to Krauthammer, Obama is a guy with "moxie."

Maybe he should apply.


I would not describe what Obama has as moxie, I would call it hubris.
He will lower the oceans & heal the Earth, 'People of Berln, People of the world, Greek Columns, "We are the One's that we have waited for."
On & on.

304 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:25:09pm

re: #290 Empire1

Ah, an open thread! I need a new pond filter, and the best price I've found for the one I want is at Webb's Water Gardens -- scroll down till you see the Tetra Pressurized Filters with Integrated UV. The one I'm after is the 2500-gallon one.

My problem is that I've never dealt with these people before, so I'm a little reluctant to send them that kind of money with no idea of their reputation. Have any of you dealt with them? What's been your experience, if so? I need lizard help, here!

What do you have in that pond?
I hope it spawns gold!

305 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:25:15pm

re: #281 gregg

I like this one from craigslist - I have a huge bathroom:

UN-believable!

*shakes head*

306 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:25:19pm

re: #278 LEGION

They had an updated version of it also- it was pretty good also.

You want to improve on Ava Gardner?

307 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:25:51pm

re: #305 Miss Trixie

Amused, yes. surprised, no.

308 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:26:13pm

re: #280 Wishing

No kiddin! Any guy that answered that ad had to either be stark raving mad...or deserve her!


Any decent man who is looking for a wife and future mother of his children would/should run in the opposite direction. Can you imagine what this woman would be like with children to care for in her life, let alone as a partner? Egads!

309 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:26:31pm

re: #288 debutaunt

It was really funny.

Actually it is. You wouild have to be home Saturday's between 2pm & 6pm to accept deliveries?

310 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:26:39pm

re: #300 godfrey

At what word did she lose you? Mine was "cat."

Mine was "idiotic pig-headed beer-swilling moron ". That's code for what she believes most men are.
She'll be better off with a companion that runs on batteries-if you get my drift.

311 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:27:33pm

re: #303 opnion

I would not describe what Obama has as moxie, I would call it hubris.
He will lower the oceans & heal the Earth, 'People of Berln, People of the world, Greek Columns, "We are the One's that we have waited for."
On & on.

Hubris is a real good word. I like it. Bullshit also come to mind. Not as eloquent but....

312 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:27:42pm

re: #282 Miss Trixie

rightymouse


Yay! Hubby feeling better?

He's definitely not himself today. Poor guy.

313 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:28:14pm

re: #311 nevergiveup

Hubris is a real good word. I like it. Bullshit also come to mind. Not as eloquent but....

Yeah, but probably more accurate. What a con!

314 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:28:25pm

re: #310 BigMoo

She can't be that bright. All she has to do is move to France.

315 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:28:38pm

re: #310 BigMoo

Mine was "idiotic pig-headed beer-swilling moron ". That's code for what she believes most men are.
She'll be better off with a companion that runs on batteries-if you get my drift.

You mean "runs on batteries" doesn't mean batteries=beer?

316 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:29:01pm

re: #311 nevergiveup

Hubris is a real good word. I like it. Bullshit also come to mind. Not as eloquent but....

I prefer bullshit....need to call it what it is.

317 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:29:38pm

re: #316 LGoPs

I prefer bullshit....need to call it what it is.

Next you will be calling a spade a .....

318 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:30:48pm

re: #317 lifeofthemind

Next you will be calling a spade a .....

....a pile of bullshit remover.
:)

319 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:30:57pm

re: #309 opnion

Actually it is. You wouild have to be home Saturday's between 2pm & 6pm to accept deliveries?

It's funny!

320 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:31:13pm

... aaaaaaaaand, it's snowing. Again. :(

321 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:31:39pm
must have all limbs, no quads (not biased, just poor past experience)

Here, you just shake your head.

322 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:32:23pm

re: #320 Miss Trixie

... aaaaaaaaand, it's snowing. Again. :(

And where is that may I ask

323 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:32:33pm

What happens to BHO supporters when it becomes undeniable that he is not some spiritual being, he does not have extraordinary powers, inellect or judgement, that he is really a fraud?

324 Smilla  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:32:56pm

re: #271 jcm

The giveaway was the "I don't get to leave the house much". She really does need to get out more!

325 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:33:11pm

re: #320 Miss Trixie

... aaaaaaaaand, it's snowing. Again. :(

Ugh.

The skies are clouding up here too. Nooooooooooooooooooo!

326 Syrah  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:33:16pm

re: #308 rightymouse

Any decent man who is looking for a wife and future mother of his children would/should run in the opposite direction. Can you imagine what this woman would be like with children to care for in her life, let alone as a partner? Egads!

That list detailed a poodle, not a partner.

327 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:33:27pm

re: #323 opnion

What happens to BHO supporters when it becomes undeniable that he is not some spiritual being, he does not have extraordinary powers, inellect or judgement, that he is really a fraud?

Lots of face-saving.

328 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:33:29pm

re: #319 debutaunt

It's funny!

It is, but it has to be a gag.

329 Smilla  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:33:30pm

re: #287 godfrey

According to Krauthammer, Obama is a guy with "moxie."

Maybe he should apply.

No, Sarah Palin has the moxie!

330 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:33:43pm

re: #323 opnion

What happens to BHO supporters when it becomes undeniable that he is not some spiritual being, he does not have extraordinary powers, inellect or judgement, that he is really a fraud?

They'll blame Bush.

331 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:34:01pm

CK:

Henry Paulson's invention of the number $700 billion forever altered our perception of imaginable government expenditure.

Just a statistic now.

332 Maximu§  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:34:13pm

re: #281 gregg

I like this one from craigslist - I have a huge bathroom:

Sounds like a psycho....who would sleep on the Bathroom floor?

333 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:34:15pm

re: #303 opnion

I would not describe what Obama has as moxie, I would call it hubris.
He will lower the oceans & heal the Earth, 'People of Berln, People of the world, Greek Columns, "We are the One's that we have waited for."
On & on.


I'd go with 'Moxie', mainly because he came through the 'Chicago Machine'. But I'd also suggest that's a 'taint'-especially in light of current events.
The fact that he can't even get to inauguration day w/o scandal speaks volumes...

334 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:34:38pm

re: #328 opnion

It is, but it has to be a gag.

I'm pretty sure it was written as a joke.

335 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:34:52pm

re: #323 opnion

What happens to BHO supporters when it becomes undeniable that he is not some spiritual being, he does not have extraordinary powers, inellect or judgement, that he is really a fraud?

They all go and get psychiatric therapy under his new health care plan......that we're gonna pay for.
Harumph.

336 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:34:59pm

re: #332 Maximu§

Sounds like her next tenant is going to become a side of beef in her freezer.

337 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:35:09pm

Last update - 22:38 13/12/2008

UN set to adopt resolution urging Israel, Palestinians to continue talks

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Gee what a waste ot time, paper, and oxygen. And Bush is behind this abortion?

338 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:35:33pm

re: #314 godfrey

She can't be that bright. All she has to do is move to France.

Oh yeah, forgot about the French ! Good place for her.

339 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:35:45pm

re: #327 debutaunt

Lots of face-saving.

That, but a lot of disappointment too. Full grown adults believed fairy tails for this guy. When he falls from grace, they'll come down with him,

340 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:35:47pm

re: #329 Smilla

No, Sarah Palin has the moxie!

I thought palin had the great legs?

341 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:36:25pm

re: #332 Maximu§

Sounds like a psycho....who would sleep on the Bathroom floor?

You mean without first being ripped roaring drunk?

342 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:36:45pm

re: #322 nevergiveup

And where is that may I ask

Ottawa, Canada. The Moscow of the Great White North if my avatar proves anything.

I would prefer to hibernate to &#9834 Spring &#9834 ...

343 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:37:07pm

re: #330 MandyManners

They'll blame Bush.

They will for a while, but then what? Reality will seem cruel to the Obama faithful.

344 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:37:14pm

re: #332 Maximu§

Sounds like a psycho....who would sleep on the Bathroom floor?

Lizards after the FNDT....
/ ;-P

345 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:37:16pm

re: #326 Syrah

That list detailed a poodle, not a partner.


No kidding.

346 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:37:37pm

re: #323 opnion

What happens to BHO supporters when it becomes undeniable that he is not some spiritual being, he does not have extraordinary powers, inellect or judgement, that he is really a fraud?

will they ever accept him as less than the messiah w/ out blaming conservatives?
it will be interesting to watch them as he begins to falter.
i'm going to keep asking the libs in my life abt. the ocean level.
i want a daily report.

347 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:37:39pm

re: #325 rightymouse

Ugh.

The skies are clouding up here too. Nooooooooooooooooooo!

I share your pain dear lady. And the weather ... *snicker* :P

348 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:37:43pm

re: #342 Miss Trixie

Ottawa, Canada. The Moscow of the Great White North if my avatar proves anything.

I would prefer to hibernate to ♪ Spring ♪ ...

Well Ottawa sounds romantic and all?

349 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:37:48pm

re: #315 lifeofthemind

lol-I don't think I could consume enough beer to make her appealling.

350 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:38:00pm

Are you kidding? They'll go back to their ingrained reflex: "it's racism!"

351 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:38:09pm

re: #342 Miss Trixie

Ottawa, Canada. The Moscow of the Great White North if my avatar proves anything.

I would prefer to hibernate to ♪ Spring ♪ ...

Sing with me Trixie..
Let it snow
Let it snow
let it snow

352 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:38:13pm

re: #330 MandyManners

They'll blame Bush.

Technically you're right because technically, everything is Bush's fault....even things that ain't happened yet
/

353 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:38:14pm

If the s really hits the f in the next few years maybe Alaska will be the place upwind.

354 Smilla  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:38:54pm

re: #329 Smilla

I should add, moxie defined as: The ability to face difficulty with spirit and courage.

355 Maximu§  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:39:15pm

re: #336 godfrey

Sounds like her next tenant is going to become a side of beef in her freezer.

Yeah, Ive had bad luck with room-mates....the worst ones are best friends and family. The best friends become ex-friends, the family members, well they just never really go away...

356 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:39:25pm

re: #347 Miss Trixie

I share your pain dear lady. And the weather ... *snicker* :P

Heh. Well, the fireplace is cranking away. That helps. :)

357 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:39:48pm

re: #342 Miss Trixie

Ottawa, Canada. The Moscow of the Great White North if my avatar proves anything.

I would prefer to hibernate to ♪ Spring ♪ ...

That depends on who you hibernate with. Or is it that if you are with the right one you don't hibernate?

358 Maximu§  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:40:39pm

re: #341 nevergiveup

You mean without first being ripped roaring drunk?

Been awhile since Ive passed out on a bathroom floor.

359 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:40:53pm

re: #354 Smilla

I should add, moxie defined as: The ability to face difficulty with spirit and courage.

Sounds like a line for Toshiru Mifune.

360 Smilla  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:41:41pm

re: #284 jcm

We had a list for our house. A ranked listed, from must have to nice to have to wish to have. Actually got most of it but not all.

Nice one. My colleague did end up with a house - completely different to that description, but she is happy. Maybe a lesson for the Internet dater....

361 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:41:41pm

re: #343 opnion

They will for a while, but then what? Reality will seem cruel to the Obama faithful.

Godfrey has it in No. 350.

362 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:42:17pm

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

363 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:42:38pm

re: #346 nyc redneck

will they me ver accept him as less than the messiah w/ out blaming conservatives?
it will be interesting to watch them as he begins to falter.
i'm going to keep asking the libs in my life abt. the ocean level.
i want a daily report.

They will tell you either he never said it , or that it was some deep metaphor. It is like a cult, but at some point the wheels will come off.

364 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:42:40pm

re: #352 LGoPs

Technically you're right because technically, everything is Bush's fault....even things that ain't happened yet
/

Sounds like The Kid on a lot of issues: IT AIN'T MYYYYYYYY FAULT.

365 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:42:46pm

re: #354 Smilla

I should add, moxie defined as: The ability to face difficulty with spirit and courage.

Whixsie - the ability to face difficulty with courage through spirits....

366 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:42:51pm

re: #355 Maximu§

Best roommate I ever had was an Australian food stylist who drank single malt scotch and ran around with a sexagenarian chef from Tokyo.

367 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:43:09pm

The Wildcats are just destroying the Hoosiers in basketball right now. It is too painful to watch.. I'm hanging here...I can't watch

368 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:43:19pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

bless him and you too.

369 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:43:54pm

re: #365 LGoPs

Upding!

370 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:44:25pm

re: #368 nyc redneck

Thanks much. Gonna be an interesting next year-15 months to say the least.

371 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:44:33pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

Godspeed to your son....and you.
*saluting*

372 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:44:54pm

re: #367 HoosierHoops

Get to work untangling those Christmas lights, you pig-headed beer-swilling moron!

373 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:45:20pm

re: #366 godfrey

Best roommate I ever had was an Australian food stylist who drank single malt scotch and ran around with a sexagenarian chef from Tokyo.

I think I saw that show......

374 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:45:20pm

re: #371 LGoPs

Gracias. Lucky for him, he takes after his mom.

375 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:45:41pm

re: #348 nevergiveup

Well Ottawa sounds romantic and all?

As long as you keep warm with someone you love, piece of cake.

Parliament Hill and the Chateau Laurier Hotel

Folks skating the canal in the dead of winter.

Summer shot.

376 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:45:54pm

When Obama stumbles, he'll simply ask for resignations. And he'll get them.

377 Smilla  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:45:55pm

re: #365 LGoPs

Whixsie - the ability to face difficulty with courage through spirits....

Like being "pixielated"? (Mr Smith Goes to Washington - wish I had a link but can't find one).

378 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:46:03pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

Godspeed to your son!
My prayers are with him and you.

379 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:46:26pm

re: #364 MandyManners

Sounds like The Kid on a lot of issues: IT AIN'T MYYYYYYYY FAULT.

interesting observation. I've long thought that the Democrats are the party of a bunch of kids that have never grown up. (I relaize that that's not an original thought)

380 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:46:46pm

re: #376 godfrey

When Obama stumbles, he'll simply ask for resignations. And he'll get them.

I've never seen a bus with so much room under it as Obama's seems to have.

381 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:47:15pm

re: #378 jcm

Thanks VERY much.

382 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:47:16pm

re: #361 MandyManners

Godfrey has it in No. 350.

Yeah, they will play a whole deck of race cards, but at some point the obvious will be too much to deny. Barry is an ego maniacal empty suit.
It could take three years, but when the MSM turns on him game over.
I don't mean game over that he will not be reelected , I mean the idolatry.

383 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:48:49pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Just remember, it's supposed to be fun. That first Junior Officer job is the best worst hardest job he will ever have. Most guys say they don't get to really get that same feeling again until they get a Command 12-15 years later, if even then. Course the Navy is different.

384 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:48:52pm

re: #317 lifeofthemind

Next you will be calling a spade a .....

BLOODY SHOVEL!

-S-

385 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:48:59pm

re: #372 godfrey

Get to work untangling those Christmas lights, you pig-headed beer-swilling moron!

My hubby and son just arrived back home with an Xmas tree. I think I'll go bring a beer to hubby.

386 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:49:12pm

re: #379 LGoPs

interesting observation. I've long thought that the Democrats are the party of a bunch of kids that have never grown up. (I relaize that that's not an original thought)

Honestly, Don't Demorats as a rule seem less mature than those who are not Dems?

387 Wishing  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:49:16pm

Off to the Sheriff's Office Party...You all play nice!
(I'll let you know how the pie tastes mwahahahahha)

388 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:49:23pm

re: #381 BigMoo

Thanks VERY much.

Thanks go to your son. And you for raising him.

389 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:49:48pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

Please know how much we appreciate his service and your family's sacrifice.

390 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:50:04pm

re: #387 Wishing

Off to the Sheriff's Office Party...You all play nice!
(I'll let you know how the pie tastes mwahahahahha)

Torture! You're Torturing me!

ARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!

391 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:50:51pm

re: #380 BigMoo

I've never seen a bus with so much room under it as Obama's seems to have.

It must be like the opposite of a kneeling bus. He can just keep raising it off the ground to make all the room he needs.

392 MnJoe  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:51:04pm

I've seen a commercial lately on TV with Jane Seymour working with Zales Jewelers, I think it is. She has "designed" this thing she calls an open heart necklace, and she seems just real proud of it.

I hate to break it to her, but that thing is a blatant rip off of the Average White Band logo.

393 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:51:18pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

Bless both of you.

394 opnion  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:51:20pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

Your son is why we will all go to bed tonight feeling safe. Salute!

395 Smilla  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:51:28pm

re: #386 opnion

Honestly, Don't Demorats as a rule seem less mature than those who are not Dems?

"If you're not a socialist when you are 20 you have no heart; if you are not a conservative by the time you are 40 you have no brain" - attributed to various people including Winston Churchill.

396 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:51:31pm

re: #384 Dr. Shalit

BLOODY SHOVEL!

-S-

Entrenching tool?
/that's what she said

397 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:51:31pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

Best Wishes! I know it can be hard. Our son was deployed to Iraq last year.
You'll get used to the satt phone calls at 3am. God bless you and your child.
They have those boxes at the post-office that you can ship whatever over seas. It's 8.95 and you can stuff it to the gills..weight doesn't matter..Shove lots of non perishable protein like tuna..every 2 days mail them something..
Keep those packages in the pipeline!

398 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:51:52pm

re: #387 Wishing

Off to the Sheriff's Office Party...You all play nice!
(I'll let you know how the pie tastes mwahahahahha)

Oh, just an itty-bitty piece? A tiny one? Pleeeaaaassseeee.... ;)

399 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:51:53pm

re: #389 goddessoftheclassroom

Please know how much we appreciate his service and your family's sacrifice.

Good afternoon cuttie pie..... MHAW............ ;)

400 Smilla  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:52:23pm

re: #393 gclaghorn

Bless both of you.

Well said.

401 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:52:38pm

re: #385 rightymouse

You are the Wife of Noble Character, whose praises I am happy to sing at the city gate.

402 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:52:41pm

In college basketball Kentucky is kicking the shit out of Indiana 36- 13 at half time. Shit i coulda scored more than Indiana?

403 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:53:24pm

re: #375 Miss Trixie

Skating on the canal would be great. Some of my fondest memories of childhood was going down to the outdoor skating rink on Friday/Saturday nights.

404 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:53:40pm

re: #402 nevergiveup

In college basketball Kentucky is kicking the shit out of Indiana 36- 13 at half time. Shit i coulda scored more than Indiana?

I was crying about it upthread..My eyes are almost dry..

405 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:53:59pm

re: #362 BigMoo

We would all be so proud to have such a son.

406 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:54:10pm

re: #404 HoosierHoops

I was crying about it upthread..My eyes are almost dry..

What's with Indiana? I just turned it on.

407 stuiec  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:54:10pm

re: #107 NYCHardhat

You ain't seen nothing yet. The whole 80 or so minutes of it is a comedic gem. He can go months with this stuff.

True, but all good things eventually come to an end. And the new Plan 9 movie (comes out 09.09.09) is apparently going to be played for genuine sci-fi thrills, not unintentional campy laughs. Why, oh why must they ruin the classics?

408 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:54:19pm

re: #399 doriangrey

Good afternoon cuttie pie..... MHAW............ ;)

Just for fun...

409 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:54:33pm

re: #401 godfrey

You are the Wife of Noble Character, whose praises I am happy to sing at the city gate.

**BLUSH**

410 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:54:43pm

re: #383 lifeofthemind

Just remember, it's supposed to be fun. That first Junior Officer job is the best worst hardest job he will ever have. Most guys say they don't get to really get that same feeling again until they get a Command 12-15 years later, if even then. Course the Navy is different.

He's pretty jazzed to be sure and with a good unit w/in 10th Mtn.
What's ironic is that I recall my mom telling me that my dad couldn't sleep nights when he knew I was on the streets hunting bad guys as a police officer. I thought that was silly since I was an expert (and bulletproof) etc...now the shoe is definately on the other foot.

411 kcladderman  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:55:25pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

God bless you and your son.

412 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:55:31pm

re: #389 goddessoftheclassroom

You're very kind-thx.

413 godfrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:55:41pm

re: #373 jcm

The Australian was way better than the Greek girl. She'd be up all hours on the phone in the bathroom, bitching at the married men she dated, drinking Chivas and leaving cigarette butts in the sink.

I mean, Chivas? It was like a sitcom.

414 rightymouse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:55:47pm

Later! Going to help the male units with the Xmas tree.

415 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:55:57pm

re: #386 opnion

Honestly, Don't Demorats as a rule seem less mature than those who are not Dems?

They really do exhibit the characteristics of 5 year olds:
1) Clinton splitting hairs over the word is.....
2) Democratic senate not wanting to see the evidence in No. 1 above
3) 'It's not Fair' as their most common refrain
4) 'He's got more than me...I want his' being their underlying economic principle
5) 'The rules are whatever the frick we decide they are'

I could go on and on but I'm not a licensed psychiatrist.....

416 BignJames  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:56:27pm

re: #404 HoosierHoops

I was crying about it upthread..My eyes are almost dry..

Gee, that's too bad.

417 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:56:29pm

re: #406 nevergiveup

What's with Indiana? I just turned it on.

We have hit the deepest depth.. They hired a great young coach that everyone loves..Watch out in a couple years.

418 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:57:29pm

re: #411 kcladderman

Thx very much.

419 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:57:30pm

re: #416 BignJames

Gee, that's too bad.

UNC at 6:00 PM tonight at home against Oral Roberts.

420 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:57:45pm

re: #407 stuiec

True, but all good things eventually come to an end. And the new Plan 9 movie (comes out 09.09.09) is apparently going to be played for genuine sci-fi thrills, not unintentional campy laughs. Why, oh why must they ruin the classics?

Remakes or sequels that did not suck:

1. Godfather 2

2. Henry V (though I appreciate the original)

3. Maltese Falcon (there were earlier versions)


please continue

421 kcladderman  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:58:14pm

re: #419 nevergiveup

UNC at 6:00 PM tonight at home against Oral Roberts.

Well they should be able to beat Him
////

422 BignJames  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 1:59:47pm

re: #419 nevergiveup

UNC at 6:00 PM tonight at home against Oral Roberts.


Wrote the book on how to have a 20 win season.

423 Empire1  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:00:07pm

re: #304 Wishing

What do you have in that pond?
I hope it spawns gold!

ROFLMAO! Nothing at the moment, since I got rid of the goldfish (those things multiply worse'n coat hangers!) I've had problems with algae ever since I put it in, so I want to clear that up before I start getting koi to put in. The only thing I can think I've been doing wrong is using a too-small filter, so I want to get the biggest I can afford!

The pond is somewhere in the 900-1200 gallon range (too irregularly shaped to be sure), and I've been using filters for that size. But it gets full sun most of the day, and even if I use those filters, even with UV and algae killer, it builds up so much I have to hand-clean it twice a year, and I'm getting too old for that nonsense!

424 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:00:08pm

Apropos of Charles' quote....

In the Stainless Steel Rat series by Harry Harrison, Slippery Jim diGriz is an atheist.

Harrison wrote, in as many words, that an ethical atheist doesn't kill. Atheists believe that there's no afterlife, so what we have now is all we will ever get.

Therefore, an ethical atheist will never rob someone of their only chance to exist.

For another somewhat provocative quote, I'm not sure if it was Donald Hamilton or Wilbur Smith who wrote that a terrorist is someone who has resigned from the human race.

Personally, I think terrorists should be hung, drawn and quartered, but that's just my opinion.

425 Miss Trixie  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:00:12pm

See ya mousie! *mwah*

426 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:00:38pm

re: #416 BignJames

Gee, that's too bad.

My first read pissed me off.. Then I saw the Avatar...
Good zigger!
I think we are looking at some history here. The Tar Heals are playing fantastic ball..They are a pleasure to watch.

427 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:00:57pm

re: #410 BigMoo

He's pretty jazzed to be sure and with a good unit w/in 10th Mtn.
What's ironic is that I recall my mom telling me that my dad couldn't sleep nights when he knew I was on the streets hunting bad guys as a police officer. I thought that was silly since I was an expert (and bulletproof) etc...now the shoe is definately on the other foot.

My Father when he was in Italy above Bagni di Lucca was relieved by the 10th Mountain Division, in fact by a big handsome athletic young fellow who took Dad's foxhole, the Lieutenant's name was Bob Dole.

428 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:01:48pm

re: #427 lifeofthemind

My Father when he was in Italy above Bagni di Lucca was relieved by the 10th Mountain Division, in fact by a big handsome athletic young fellow who took Dad's foxhole, the Lieutenant's name was Bob Dole.

Seriously ?

429 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:02:07pm

re: #427 lifeofthemind

My Father when he was in Italy above Bagni di Lucca was relieved by the 10th Mountain Division, in fact by a big handsome athletic young fellow who took Dad's foxhole, the Lieutenant's name was Bob Dole.

THAT IS SO COOL!

I started hating Katie Couric when she was so rude to Bob Dole when she interviewed him during his presidential run after schoozing with Clinton.

430 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:02:56pm
431 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:03:02pm

re: #423 Empire1

We see a lot of brain bleach here. Try showing that to the algae.

432 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:03:24pm

re: #429 goddessoftheclassroom

Katie Couric...if the 'Smurfs' were still in vogue, she'd be named 'Nasty Smurf'.

433 Sharmuta  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:04:14pm

re: #432 BigMoo

Katie Couric...if the 'Smurfs' were still in vogue, she'd be named 'Nasty Smurf'.

You mean.... we're not? *sob*

434 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:04:38pm

re: #420 lifeofthemind

Remakes or sequels that did not suck:

1. Godfather 2

2. Henry V (though I appreciate the original)

3. Maltese Falcon (there were earlier versions)


please continue

Aliens has to be added to that list.....

435 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:05:09pm

re: #433 Sharmuta

You mean.... we're not? *sob*

Now that's just funny.
Well, SOME Smurfs are still in vogue. LOL

436 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:05:38pm

re: #434 LGoPs

Aliens has to be added to that list.....

And also the 3 Lord of the Rings movies..........

437 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:06:15pm

re: #428 BigMoo

Seriously ?

Yeah, bad news is that Dole was shot 3 days later if I recall, lucky for my Dad, he had frostbite and the Doc broke the rules and did not send him back to the line.

438 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:06:18pm

Iraqi Officials, U.S. Commander at Odds Over Troop Withdrawal

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Why don't they all just shut the fuck up and act like adults or they are gonna get our boys killed!

439 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:06:54pm

re: #372 godfrey

Get to work untangling those Christmas lights, you pig-headed beer-swilling moron!

hahahahahahahahaaa

440 Opilio  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:07:46pm

re: #420 lifeofthemind

Remakes or sequels that did not suck:

1. Godfather 2

2. Henry V (though I appreciate the original)

3. Maltese Falcon (there were earlier versions)

please continue

The Empire Strikes Back.

441 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:07:50pm

re: #432 BigMoo

Katie Couric...if the 'Smurfs' were still in vogue, she'd be named 'Nasty Smurf'.

I prefer Shelob as a characterization of Couric.....
*snort*

442 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:07:58pm

re: #433 Sharmuta

You mean.... we're not? *sob*

LOL
You know I never had nothing against Katie except when she pretended to be a real journalist.. The questions she used to ask on the Today show depended upon who she agreed with.. IT was so OBVIOUS.
I think a real journalist should ask tough questions of both sides..without predujice....

443 doppelganglander  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:08:01pm

re: #229 jcm

On behalf of women everywhere, I would like to apologize for this person.

444 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:08:39pm

re: #407 stuiec

True, but all good things eventually come to an end. And the new Plan 9 movie (comes out 09.09.09) is apparently going to be played for genuine sci-fi thrills, not unintentional campy laughs. Why, oh why must they ruin the classics?

Because they have no imagination in Hollywood any more. All they can do is f**k up the classics.

The remake of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" is getting some of the most negative reviews I've ever seen. Michael Rennie's Klaatu wanted to prevent nuclear war. Keanu Reeves' Klaatu wants to end global warming.

At least they did keep "Klaatu Barada Niikto."

I'm reminded of a bit of doggerel from the '20s:

Please don't uplift me when I go
To see a moving picture show.

445 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:08:41pm

re: #437 lifeofthemind

Yeah, bad news is that Dole was shot 3 days later if I recall, lucky for my Dad, he had frostbite and the Doc broke the rules and did not send him back to the line.

It truly is a small world isn't it ? Incredible story.

446 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:09:39pm

re: #438 nevergiveup

Iraqi Officials, U.S. Commander at Odds Over Troop Withdrawal

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Why don't they all just shut the fuck up and act like adults or they are gonna get our boys killed!

Personally I think Bush should have sold it to Congress as a 20 year commitment to occupy the place before we went in, then when they killed the 4 contractors in Fallujah I'd have leveled the place. But I lack nuance.

447 Floral Giraffe  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:09:47pm

re: #362 BigMoo

God Bless you, your son & your family!

448 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:10:38pm

re: #446 lifeofthemind

Personally I think Bush should have sold it to Congress as a 20 year commitment to occupy the place before we went in, then when they killed the 4 contractors in Fallujah I'd have leveled the place. But I lack nuance.

I like how you think.

449 doppelganglander  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:10:59pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

God bless him and you too.

450 Empire1  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:11:07pm

re: #431 lifeofthemind

We see a lot of brain bleach here. Try showing that to the algae.

No good -- kills the algae, yeah, but also kills fish and desirable plants, not to mention doing nasty things to the pond liner. ::sigh:: So much for the easy way!

451 Shay4l  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:11:41pm

re: #249 jcm

One would hope so.....

Maybe she's a dominatrix. Then, the ad makes sense.

452 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:11:48pm

re: #447 Floral Giraffe

God Bless you, your son & your family!


Thanks very much for your kind words.

453 engineboss  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:11:51pm

re: #423 Empire1
You might try adding oat straw to the water. A larger filter wont change the chemistry that allows algae growth

454 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:12:02pm

re: #445 BigMoo

It truly is a small world isn't it ? Incredible story.

Spent my life trying to pry the stories out of my Father, like most truly good men he was reluctant to talk about it, and now he is gone.

455 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:12:35pm

Did you hear the one about the pretty blonde speeder who was pulled over by a State Trooper.
She asked him if he pulled her over to sell her a ticket to the Policeman's Ball.
He testily replied that policemen don't have balls......
She drove off shortly thereafter, sans ticket.....

No insult intended towards our LE Lizards.....
:)

456 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:12:58pm

re: #449 doppelganglander

Thx much. Needless to say, it's been a rollercoaster day for our family.
Very proud-a little anxious.

457 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:14:31pm

re: #443 doppelganglander

On behalf of women everywhere, I would like to apologize for this person.

No reason to, we all have "issues" some of us just deal with it better than others.

458 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:15:30pm

re: #444 Steffan

Because they have no imagination in Hollywood any more. All they can do is f**k up the classics.

The remake of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" is getting some of the most negative reviews I've ever seen. Michael Rennie's Klaatu wanted to prevent nuclear war. Keanu Reeves' Klaatu wants to end global warming.

At least they did keep "Klaatu Barada Niikto."

I'm reminded of a bit of doggerel from the '20s:

Please don't uplift me when I go
To see a moving picture show.

aw man...you ruined it for me. I wanted to go see it. Although if it is about global warming, you saved me the admission fee cause I would have walked out.....

459 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:15:39pm

re: #454 lifeofthemind

Spent my life trying to pry the stories out of my Father, like most truly good men he was reluctant to talk about it, and now he is gone.

Most of them didn't want to to talk about it. My next door neighbor was a retired army Col. I didn't know until he passed away last year that he was recipient of a bronze star, Silver Star and several other decorations from the Vietnam era. You'd have never known. I guess that's how great men carry themselves.

460 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:16:10pm

re: #443 doppelganglander

On behalf of women everywhere, I would like to apologize for this person.

No need, we certainly don't blame you for her problems.

Maybe we should introduce her to Maureen Dowd. I'm sure they'd get along famously.

That is, of course, if she's not Maureen Dowd.

461 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:17:00pm

re: #458 LGoPs

aw man...you ruined it for me. I wanted to go see it. Although if it is about global warming, you saved me the admission fee cause I would have walked out.....

The original was on last night. A classic!

462 Empire1  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:17:03pm

re: #453 engineboss

You might try adding oat straw to the water. A larger filter wont change the chemistry that allows algae growth

I've tried barley straw, which didn't do much except shed. I've never heard of using oat straw, but if I can find some, I'll definitely try it!

The filter won't change the chemistry, true, but the UV kills algae that goes past it, and taking out the dead algae via filtration is at least better than pumping it back into the pond.

463 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:17:41pm

re: #455 LGoPs

Did you hear the one about the pretty blonde speeder who was pulled over by a State Trooper.
She asked him if he pulled her over to sell her a ticket to the Policeman's Ball.
He testily replied that policemen don't have balls......
She drove off shortly thereafter, sans ticket.....

No insult intended towards our LE Lizards.....
:)

"I don't care who ya are...that's just funny" - LOL

464 Salem  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:19:35pm

Bride of Frankenstein
The Thing
Evil Dead II

465 engineboss  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:20:16pm

re: #462 Empire1
You might check phosphate levels too. Food for green things (algae)

466 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:20:17pm

re: #464 Salem

Bride of Frankenstein
The Thing
Evil Dead II

I haven't seen bride of frankenstein for ever?

467 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:20:36pm

re: #445 BigMoo

It truly is a small world isn't it ? Incredible story.

A very small world. They were hung up before Monte Casinno and the Germans started shelling so a fellow who was with the USO jumped out a jeep and into my father's hole, it was Jascha Heifitz.

468 stuiec  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:21:19pm

re: #107 NYCHardhat

You ain't seen nothing yet. The whole 80 or so minutes of it is a comedic gem. He can go months with this stuff.

True, but all good things eventually come to an end. And the new Plan 9 movie (comes out 09.09.09) is apparently going to be played for genuine sci-fi thrills, not unintentional campy laughs. Why, oh why must they ruin the classics?re: #444 Steffan

Hollywood executives as a group are very risk-averse and so they prefer to remake or sequelize movies that have a following or to adapt literary material from other sources.

Oddly, though, it turns out that over half of the top money-makers in the last decade (as measured by the top 20 money-makers in each year) have been made from original scripts, not adaptations, remakes or sequels.

469 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:21:23pm

re: #446 lifeofthemind

Personally I think Bush should have sold it to Congress as a 20 year commitment to occupy the place before we went in, then when they killed the 4 contractors in Fallujah I'd have leveled the place. But I lack nuance.

Carpet bombing someone because they tortured and killed our people is no longer politically correct.

I'd have given Fallujah the Cologne treatment, but it wasn't my decision.

IIRC that treatment is called Arc Light.

470 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:22:28pm

Hey goddess...
If it's not too personal, I'm curious about your teaching situation, ages ... subjects ... what you love most about teaching.

471 Smilla  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:23:06pm

re: #444 Steffan

Because they have no imagination in Hollywood any more. All they can do is f**k up the classics.


Like Born Yesterday - cannot believe they remade this classic with Judy Holliday and William Holden. And just to rub it in, with Melanie Griffith!

472 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:23:08pm

re: #467 lifeofthemind

A very small world. They were hung up before Monte Casinno and the Germans started shelling so a fellow who was with the USO jumped out a jeep and into my father's hole, it was Jascha Heifitz.

I had to google that one-my uncultured side is showing (LOL). It's a tribute to him that he was out there with the troops.

473 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:23:59pm

re: #469 Steffan

Carpet bombing someone because they tortured and killed our people is no longer politically correct.

I'd have given Fallujah the Cologne treatment, but it wasn't my decision.

IIRC that treatment is called Arc Light.

You mean Cologne or Dresden?

474 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:24:17pm

re: #460 Steffan

No need, we certainly don't blame you for her problems.

Maybe we should introduce her to Maureen Dowd. I'm sure they'd get along famously.

That is, of course, if she's not Maureen Dowd.

I'm feeling quite proud of myself because I just self-censored my response to that woman. Didn't want to offend any of our lady lizards........
Good boy....now there's a good boy......

475 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:25:15pm

re: #472 BigMoo

I had to google that one-my uncultured side is showing (LOL). It's a tribute to him that he was out there with the troops.

Hollywood and the entertainers was a different place 60 years ago. And the change has NOT been for the best.

476 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:26:06pm
Eros: Because of death. Because all you of Earth are idiots!

Now, that is profiling. And profiling is wrong!

477 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:26:21pm

re: #461 nevergiveup

The original was on last night. A classic!

I know...I saw it. Wanted to have a refresher on the way to see the new one but now I think I'm gonna hold off.

478 EmmmieG  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:26:34pm

re: #33 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We don't have a "Gate" name for the Bleepovich thingy yet.

Nominations?
/or is it too early?

Blagojevitch's Going Out of Business Sale

479 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:26:38pm
480 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:27:11pm

re: #477 LGoPs

I know...I saw it. Wanted to have a refresher on the way to see the new one but now I think I'm gonna hold off.

me to.

481 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:28:02pm

re: #475 nevergiveup

Hollywood and the entertainers was a different place 60 years ago. And the change has NOT been for the best.

True that-I recall the internet thread about all the performers who had prior military service (Lee Marvin, Eddie Albert, Jimmy Stewart etc...). Compare then to now. Most these self absorbed, over medicated little reprobates think 'service to your country' means slinging lattes at Starbucks...

482 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:28:05pm

re: #469 Steffan

Carpet bombing someone because they tortured and killed our people is no longer politically correct.

I'd have given Fallujah the Cologne treatment, but it wasn't my decision.

IIRC that treatment is called Arc Light.

Better would have been to tailor our response to the training and expectations of the people we were dealing with. Remember their senior people were trained in Soviet, Marshal Zhukov style, operations. I'd have surrounded the city except for a passage to the South and then lined up 500 artillery tubes wheel to wheel to the North. I would then have slowly eaten my way through the city. I would have allowed residents to escape leaving food caches every 5 miles so the refugees could cross the desert to Saudi Arabia, where the Fallujan tribe came from. Then I would have hooked up a mule and sown the ruins with salt before cameras.

But remember I lack nuance.

483 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:28:12pm

re: #407 stuiec

True, but all good things eventually come to an end. And the new Plan 9 movie (comes out 09.09.09) is apparently going to be played for genuine sci-fi thrills, not unintentional campy laughs. Why, oh why must they ruin the classics?

Campy never comes on person. It is always completely accidental.

Mommy Dearest, Plan 9 from Outer Space, Platoon...

484 legalpad  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:28:52pm

re: #444 Steffan

Keanu Reeves' Klaatu wants to end global warming.

When I saw the ads I said that they would probably make it about global warming - I just can't believe they are so f-ing predictable.

485 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:28:57pm

re: #473 nevergiveup

You mean Cologne or Dresden?

It's not a widely known fact but more people were killed in the fire bombing raids on Tokyo than died from the atomic bombs.

486 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:29:37pm

re: #479 ploome hineni

No home for Santa! Ha ha!
But seriously, I'd like to see that happen.
Set calendar Christmas 2013: Laugh at Gore.

487 Empire1  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:29:47pm

re: #465 engineboss

You might check phosphate levels too. Food for green things (algae)

Phosphates? Hmm ... ::goes to check pond supplies:: Don't have a test set for that one; I'll have to pick one up on the next hardware store trip. Need some pond salt, too, so thanks for sending me to check!

488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:29:52pm

re: #484 legalpad

Give'em a break. Ocean temperatures are down, GW has appeared to have been slowed down.

Thank you Al.
Thank you Keanu (Klaatu).

489 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:30:02pm

re: #442 HoosierHoops

LOL
You know I never had nothing against Katie except when she pretended to be a real journalist.. The questions she used to ask on the Today show depended upon who she agreed with.. IT was so OBVIOUS.
I think a real journalist should ask tough questions of both sides..without predujice....

Edward R Murrow was the very last real American journalist.

490 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:30:43pm

re: #479 ploome hineni

...watch it!

Al Gore: "North Pole Will Disappear in 5 Years" (Video)


what is he sMOKin'?

Gore needs to be careful what he's saying about the North Pole.

491 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:31:04pm

re: #479 ploome hineni

...watch it!

Al Gore: "North Pole Will Disappear in 5 Years" (Video)

what is he sMOKin'?

Since it's almost 2009, 5 years would effectively be 2014.

Whatever happens in 2014, there won't be enough people left to handle it after 4.5 billion die from runaway global warming by 2012!

492 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:31:16pm

re: #489 doriangrey

Edward R Murrow was the very last real American journalist.

So right !

493 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:31:17pm

re: #448 goddessoftheclassroom

Hey goddess...
If it's not too personal, I'm curious about your teaching situation, ages ... subjects ... what you love most about teaching.

494 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:31:24pm

re: #481 BigMoo

True that-I recall the internet thread about all the performers who had prior military service (Lee Marvin, Eddie Albert, Jimmy Stewart etc...). Compare then to now. Most these self absorbed, over medicated little reprobates think 'service to your country' means slinging lattes at Starbucks...

They ain't got half the stones that your son has.

495 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:31:45pm

re: #479 ploome hineni

...watch it!

Al Gore: "North Pole Will Disappear in 5 Years" (Video)

what is he sMOKin'?

What a maroon, what an ignoranamous

496 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:31:51pm

re: #479 ploome hineni

...watch it!

Al Gore: "North Pole Will Disappear in 5 Years" (Video)

what is he sMOKin'?

Santa Claus is gonna' drown!

497 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:31:52pm

re: #476 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now, that is profiling. And profiling is wrong!

Problem is, the older I get (55 at last count) I agree with Eros more and more

498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:31:53pm

I'm feelin' kind of goofy. Hi Dor...Hi Hoops...Davin...Empire...Everybody.

I'm making a soup. Got some time on my hands. Let's crush something/one

499 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:31:57pm
500 razorbacker  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:32:26pm

Have y'all ever wondered about the inspiration for that Obama 'O' sign?

I know that I have. But never fear, Paco has the answer...

Eureka!

501 Salem  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:32:29pm

re: #483 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Campy never comes on person. It is always completely accidental.

Mommy Dearest, Plan 9 from Outer Space, Platoon...

"I got a real bad feeling about this one, Bob..."

502 legalpad  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:32:40pm

re: #488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

lol- yeah, yeah - they f up the classics and science.

503 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:32:44pm

re: #493 hermit

Hey goddess...
If it's not too personal, I'm curious about your teaching situation, ages ... subjects ... what you love most about teaching.

Oh wow. How much time do you have?! She teaches very lucky kids.

504 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:33:13pm

re: #481 BigMoo

True that-I recall the internet thread about all the performers who had prior military service (Lee Marvin, Eddie Albert, Jimmy Stewart etc...). Compare then to now. Most these self absorbed, over medicated little reprobates think 'service to your country' means slinging lattes at Starbucks...

And the athletes. I was just up in Cooperstown for the first time and all the Hall of Famers who served had their Service Records and Emblems on their plaques. I was impressed. Many Many in the day served. Ted Williams is the only Hall of Famer who served twice. Both WW2 and Korea. Oh and if you have a Military ID, you get in for free.

505 Smilla  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:33:14pm

Hey, just remembered Born Yesterday featured a bully and a corrupt congressmen, as well as the great "dumb blonde" Billie.

506 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:33:27pm

Eros: Because of death. Because all you of Earth are idiots!

I'm guessing that the setting for this flick was shortly after November 4th this year....right?

507 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:33:54pm

re: #444 Steffan

Maybe this is why Pixar has grossed so high recently. Sure their movies may have messages, but the animations is good and there's actually humor there!
(Although for my own part, I laugh more at the pre-movie shorts, which are absolute slapstick.)

508 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:34:19pm

re: #494 MandyManners

They ain't got half the stones that your son has.

Too kind ! Luckily, he takes after his mom, lol.

509 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:35:05pm

re: #498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hi right back at you, fat bastard vegetarian.

510 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:35:05pm

re: #503 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What means "lucky"? - that they have goddess...or...um, something else

511 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:35:37pm

re: #479 ploome hineni

...watch it!

Al Gore: "North Pole Will Disappear in 5 Years" (Video)

what is he sMOKin'?

I wonder if the equator will also disappear?

512 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:35:43pm

re: #494 MandyManners

They ain't got half the stones that your son has.

Well no insult to his son, but some did. Eddie Albert won the Bronze Star at Tarawa I think it was. He was a real hero.

513 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:36:30pm

re: #496 jcm

ARE YOU F****** SERIOUS?! Oh god, I have relatives in seattle! Is Moonbattery contagious?

514 DoubleU  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:36:31pm

Plan Nine from Outer Space arrived from my NetFlix que and I watched it last weekend. Once I made it through the first 20 minutes it was easier to take the rest of it. The documentary that went along with the film was better (and longer) than the film but gave insight into why the film was so bad it was good.

515 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:36:34pm

re: #512 nevergiveup

Well no insult to his son, but some did. Eddie Albert won the Bronze Star at Tarawa I think it was. He was a real hero.

I'm talking about the current crop.

516 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:36:34pm

re: #504 nevergiveup

Cooperstown is somewhere I've always wanted to go-BIG baseball fan.

517 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:37:26pm

re: #513 davinvalkri

ARE YOU F****** SERIOUS?! Oh god, I have relatives in seattle! Is Moonbattery contagious?

That's our mayor! Take a chauffeur driven limo to an event announcing a car free downtown.

518 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:38:08pm

re: #511 gregg

I wonder if the equator will also disappear?

Only if Algore goes on a diet.

519 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:38:34pm

re: #515 MandyManners

I'm talking about the current crop.

Then I'm with you. But as far as Albert is concerned:

Albert served as a lieutenant in the United States Coast Guard in the Pacific during World War II. A genuine war hero, he was awarded the Bronze Star for his actions during the Battle of Tarawa in 1943, when, as a landing ship pilot, he rescued several hundred wounded Marines while under heavy enemy machine-gun fire. He later described some of these events during a short interview in a segment of a program about the war, which appeared on the History Channel. He also discussed it with Col. Ollie North on his series, War Stories (FOX).

520 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:38:48pm

re: #505 Smilla

Hey, just remembered Born Yesterday featured a bully and a corrupt congressmen, as well as the great "dumb blonde" Billie.

GIN!

521 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:39:04pm

To quote Don Adams,
"Sorry about that, Chief." However, it ain't worth the price of a ticjet.

Joe Leydon of the Houston Chronicle puts a stake in its heart.

Arguably the worst reconstitution of a '50s sci-fi classic since the ghastly Godzilla remake — that 1998 travesty made by boneheads who forgot the Original Gangsta Lizard can, like, breathe fire — The Day the Earth Stood Still is a stunningly misconceived folly that is bearable only for as long as it remains a fair-to-middling chase movie. During its final act, alas, it repeatedly sacrifices narrative logic for CGI-spawned spectacle, all the while building toward an ending that aims for the ambiguity of 2001, but misses by several light years.

Go read the whole thing.

522 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:39:37pm

re: #519 nevergiveup

Yeah, Eddie was something very special.

523 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:39:40pm

re: #517 jcm

*pffft* *snicker* lol! ROTFLMAO (is that right?)!

524 doppelganglander  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:40:23pm

re: #460 Steffan

No need, we certainly don't blame you for her problems.

Maybe we should introduce her to Maureen Dowd. I'm sure they'd get along famously.

That is, of course, if she's not Maureen Dowd.

LOL. I was thinking, since that Craigslist ad is not going to work out for her, she should try this.

525 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:41:14pm

re: #521 Steffan

Glad to hear it's being panned. How dare they take a great movie and try to weave in a PC message into it's sequel.
But then, it's Hollywood-they'll dare to do ANYTHING.

526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:41:21pm

re: #510 hermit

What means "lucky"? - that they have goddess...or...um, something else

yes.

527 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:41:50pm

re: #505 Smilla

Hey, just remembered Born Yesterday featured a bully and a corrupt congressmen, as well as the great "dumb blonde" Billie.

Brilliant

528 Racer X  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:41:59pm

re: #491 gmsc

Since it's almost 2009, 5 years would effectively be 2014.

Whatever happens in 2014, there won't be enough people left to handle it after 4.5 billion die from runaway global warming by 2012!

Wait - what is the current total population of earth?

6.7 billion.

529 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:42:14pm

re: #519 nevergiveup

He'll always be the sweet man on green acres to me...I loved the way he had to climb the telephone pole to answer the phone...

530 hermit  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:42:55pm

re: #526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

ah. I was hoping to talk to her, but she must have gone.

531 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:43:36pm

re: #528 Racer X

532 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:43:41pm

re: #529 HoosierHoops

He'll always be the sweet man on green acres to me...I loved the way he had to climb the telephone pole to answer the phone...

And lest's not forget the Longest Yard. The original

533 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:43:51pm

re: #521 Steffan

Thanks.....you saved me and the wife the price of admission.......
:)

534 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:44:11pm

Rare dagger board schooner found sitting upright in 500 feeto of water in Lake Ontario

200 Year Old “Dagger-Board” Schooner Discovered in Lake Ontario

Rochester, New York - A rare dagger-board schooner has been discovered in very deep water off the southern shore of Lake Ontario near Oak Orchard, New York. Jim Kennard and Dan Scoville, shipwreck enthusiasts, located the schooner using deep towed side scan sonar equipment. Sailing vessels of this type were in use on the lakes for only a short period of time beginning in the very early 1800’s. This ship is the only dagger-board schooner known to have been found in the Great Lakes.

There's some great footage there of this ship.

They actually have very little information on these types of ships, and no record of this particular ship.

Anybody with any information is asked to make contact.

535 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:44:41pm

re: #473 nevergiveup

You mean Cologne or Dresden?

Both, actually, but a firestorm was created in Cologne that cremated the city.

536 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:45:03pm

Shopping Penguin

/as seen on Planet Unicorn

537 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:45:13pm

re: #531 davinvalkri

Wait, what the? I meant to say "Less that 2 degrees C increase in temp = massive depopulation? All the epidemics of world history probably didn't kill that many!"
/html, bah

538 Dustyvet  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:45:13pm

re: #515 MandyManners

I'm talking about the current crop.

World War II
from the film Smash-Up: The Story of a Woman, 1947

Albert served as a lieutenant in the United States Coast Guard in the Pacific during World War II. A genuine war hero, he was awarded the Bronze Star for his actions during the Battle of Tarawa in 1943, when, as a landing ship pilot, he rescued several hundred wounded Marines while under heavy enemy machine-gun fire. He later described some of these events during a short interview in a segment of a program about the war, which appeared on the History Channel. He also discussed it with Col. Ollie North on his series, War Stories (FOX). Albert returned from the war a different actor with a darker screen persona, although it would take another ten years before he became better known to audiences.

539 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:45:15pm

re: #534 3 wood

Rare dagger board schooner found sitting upright in 500 feeto of water in Lake Ontario

200 Year Old “Dagger-Board” Schooner Discovered in Lake Ontario

There's some great footage there of this ship.

They actually have very little information on these types of ships, and no record of this particular ship.

Anybody with any information is asked to make contact.

I have some information..... It sank..... A long time ago..... ;p

540 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:45:38pm

re: #525 BigMoo

Glad to hear it's being panned. How dare they take a great movie and try to weave in a PC message into it's sequel.
But then, it's Hollywood-they'll dare to do ANYTHING.

Propoganda is fine as long as it's for the cause.......bastards
/*Spit*

541 Empire1  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:45:59pm

re: #521 Steffan

Thanks for that ... I'll make a point to avoid it, then. I really liked the original, and I'd hate to see a butchered version.

542 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:46:30pm

re: #535 Steffan

Both, actually, but a firestorm was created in Cologne that cremated the city.

Dresden also had a firestorm and as someone pointed out up in the thread earlier Tokyo also did.

543 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:46:36pm

re: #523 davinvalkri

*pffft* *snicker* lol! ROTFLMAO (is that right?)!

Same day I was schelpping kids around downtown to appointments. Including a 2 month old just out of NICU. I wrote hizzoner a letter asking if I was supposed to wait at a bus stop in the rain and cold with a medically fragile infant while he rode in limos.

No answer of course.

544 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:46:39pm

Whenever I see a reference to Plan Nine from Outer Space, I think of the Seinfeld episode where they go a Chinese restaurant before the movie and wait forever to get seated.

/Yeah, I know, I lead a boring life

545 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:47:52pm

re: #542 nevergiveup

Dresden also had a firestorm and as someone pointed out up in the thread earlier Tokyo also did.

And the Tokyo one was deadlier than the A-bomb......

546 EmmmieG  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:47:57pm

re: #78 Killgore Trout

Faith Healing Parents Assert Religious Rights

I'm sorry if someone's already saying this, but I'm getting tired of trying to scan all 500 posts to see if it's there.

This is not just one couple. This is an entire religious group in Oregon City. They estimate 21 children have died from 1951-1998 because of treatable medical problems. A teenage boy recently died.

Yes, the legal authorities are trying to do something about it.


[Link: www.oregonlive.com...]

547 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:48:54pm

re: #539 doriangrey

I have some information..... It sank..... A long time ago..... ;p

As soon as I hit post I knew that was coming.

548 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:49:53pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

God bless you and your family.

And to your son, I'll add: Good luck and good hunting.

549 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:50:08pm

re: #547 3 wood

As soon as I hit post I knew that was coming.

ROTFLMAO.... Well I am glad you weren't disappointed....

550 nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:50:40pm

Baseball greats recall World War II service

[Link: www.stripes.com...]

Hall of Fame pitcher Bob Feller signed up for the military one day after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, without consulting the Cleveland Indians. He said it was the right thing to do.

"This country needs more young people to be leaders today," he said.

551 monkeytime  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:51:29pm

re: #511 gregg

I wonder if the equator will also disappear?

One thing that definately will not disappear:
Al Gore
bummer

552 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:51:46pm

re: #540 LGoPs

Propoganda is fine as long as it's for the cause.......bastards
/*Spit*

Agree ! Double Spit

Modern studios are going to go the same way newspapers and network news is-numbers of people consuming their product is shrinking. You'd think Rupert Murdoch would buy a studio and create movies that 'fly-over country' wants to see. Not the crap currently coming out of there-except for Ironman...

553 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:52:22pm

re: #548 Steffan

God bless you and your family.

And to your son, I'll add: Good luck and good hunting.


Thanks VERY much !

554 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:52:49pm

re: #551 monkeytime

One thing that definately will not disappear:
Al Gore
bummer

I thought polar bears were on the brink of extinction.

555 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:53:08pm

al-Reuters and the UAW blaming Republicans for the auto failures.

UAW says working to prevent "run" on GM, Chrysler

DETROIT (Reuters) - United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger on Friday blamed Senate Republicans for the collapse of the auto bailout bill and said the union was ready to do its part to prevent creditors from forcing General Motors Corp or Chrysler LLC into bankruptcy.

"We're going to work tirelessly to make this happen and realize that there's going to have to be restructuring," Gettelfinger told reporters.

Gettelfinger said the key now is to prevent suppliers from stopping shipments to GM or Chrysler or demanding payment in cash up front -- a situation he likened to "a run on the bank."

"We need to satisfy the suppliers that there is going to be a tomorrow," he said.

Without immediate federal help now by the White House through the $700-billion fund for the banking system, GM will not be able to make it out of December, and Chrysler's own dire cash position is similar, he said.

"If we worked for nothing, it wouldn't help them limp into January," Gettelfinger said.

Senate negotiations over a $14 billion package to extend emergency loans to the auto industry broke down late Thursday. That came after the UAW balked at requirements from Senate Republicans that would have forced the union to agree to sweeping concessions on the spot.

"We wondered, quite frankly, if we were just being set up," Gettelfinger said.

The UAW has been a stalwart ally of the Democratic party and worked hard for the election of President-elect Barack Obama.

Gettelfinger said some Republicans, particularly from southern states like Alabama, saw the bailout negotiations as a way to cripple the union while aiding the Japanese, South Korean and German automakers that have located plants and supply operations in their home districts.

"They thought perhaps they could have a twofer here maybe -- pierce the heart of organized labor while representing the foreign brands," he said.

556 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:53:41pm

re: #552 BigMoo

Agree ! Double Spit

Modern studios are going to go the same way newspapers and network news is-numbers of people consuming their product is shrinking. You'd think Rupert Murdoch would buy a studio and create movies that 'fly-over country' wants to see. Not the crap currently coming out of there-except for Ironman...

Ah, but the profit margin on the few movies that are accepted by the general public like Ironman is so great that the industry can afford to lose billions on their crap propaganda.

557 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:54:37pm

re: #555 3 wood

al-Reuters and the UAW blaming Republicans for the auto failures.

UAW says working to prevent "run" on GM, Chrysler

A run *on* GM and Chrysler? Judging by their sales, I'd say everyone's runniny *away* from GM and Chrysler.

558 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:55:40pm

re: #539 doriangrey

I have some information..... It sank..... A long time ago..... ;p

How did you deduce that, Holmes? ;)

559 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:56:12pm

re: #555 3 wood

My brother went thru a chapter 11 reorg with his airline. True, they took a paycut, their pensions got reduced BUT they came out of the reorg with work rules and a cost basis that allowed the airline to move towards profitability (until $4 fuel)-but most important, they are STILL working.
Hear that Big three ? They are STILL working.

560 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:56:35pm

re: #558 gclaghorn

How did you deduce that, Holmes? ;)

Elementary my dear Watson....... I went to elementary school..... ;p

561 monkeytime  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:56:40pm

re: #548 Steffan

God bless you and your family.

And to your son, I'll add: Good luck and good hunting.

Your son is in my prayers daily. Hang in there and let us know how he is
doing.

562 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:57:38pm

re: #556 doriangrey

Exactly-you look at the utter crap they've tried to put out representing Iraq and they HAD to know they would never recoup their expenses on those messes.

563 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:57:40pm

re: #560 doriangrey

Elementary my dear Watson....... I went to elementary school..... ;p

Damn. I knew that one was coming, too. ;)

564 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:57:54pm

re: #552 BigMoo

Agree ! Double Spit

Modern studios are going to go the same way newspapers and network news is-numbers of people consuming their product is shrinking. You'd think Rupert Murdoch would buy a studio and create movies that 'fly-over country' wants to see. Not the crap currently coming out of there-except for Ironman...

Years ago Michael Medved wrote a book - Hollywood vs America, I believe, and part of his thesis was that it was demonstrable that movies that would appeal to fly-over country were guaranteed money makers.....yet hollywood still persisted in making anti-American, anti-culture movies, profit be damned. Shows you what committed idealougues they are........they can all go bankrupt and start waiting tables far as I'm concerned.

565 monkeytime  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:58:01pm

re: #554 gclaghorn

I thought polar bears were on the brink of extinction.

My bad. I thought he was a walrus.

566 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:58:28pm

re: #563 gclaghorn

Damn. I knew that one was coming, too. ;)

ROTFLMAO......... Happy to oblige you.... ;)

567 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:58:42pm

re: #559 BigMoo

Hear that Big three ? They are STILL working.

It boils down to the legacy costs.

568 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:58:44pm

re: #565 monkeytime

My bad. I thought he was a walrus.

Gore the lolrus?

569 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:58:56pm

No shit moment of the day.

570 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 2:59:30pm

re: #561 monkeytime

Your son is in my prayers daily. Hang in there and let us know how he is
doing.

Thanks much-and I will. We gave him a video camera to log his 'adventures' and keep in touch. Even though he'll be at a 'FOB', they supposedly will have internet access.

571 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:00:02pm

And now, for something entirely different, Obama' spending spree.

The Obama team isn't putting a price tag on its economic stimulus plan, which Democratic leaders want to have ready for the new president to sign either on or very soon after Inauguration Day.

Currently, the initial package is expected to cost somewhere between $500 billion and $700 billion over two years.

572 The Other Les  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:00:11pm

Weirdness for Today

There exists a recording of a Mexican mariachi band performing a cover of "Heart of Glass". Since I don't understand Spanish I can't really that it is a cover of "Heart of Glass". It just sounded like what "Heart of Glass" would sound like if it were covered by a Mexican mariachi band.

573 rawmuse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:00:26pm

re: #555 3 wood

Where would they be without the Republicans? Who would they blame for their woes?

574 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:00:40pm

re: #555 3 wood

al-Reuters and the UAW blaming Republicans for the auto failures.

UAW says working to prevent "run" on GM, Chrysler

That bastard's trying to wrap himself in patriotism in order to further his anti-capitalist agenda.

575 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:01:04pm

re: #573 rawmuse

Where would they be without the Republicans? Who would they blame for their woes?

Taxpayers

576 monkeytime  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:01:10pm

re: #568 gclaghorn


I can't open your link. :>(

577 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:01:33pm

re: #569 NYCHardhat

No shit moment of the day.

Wha? The oceans aren't receding, the air isn't cleaner, jobs being produced out of green unicorn farts?

578 rawmuse  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:01:45pm

re: #575 NYCHardhat

Taxpayers

Taxpayers are Republicans. Tax suckers are Democrats.

579 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:01:46pm

re: #554 gclaghorn

I thought polar bears were on the brink of extinction.

Brink?.......I thought Sarah Palin bagged the last of them.....BLAM...BLAM...BLAM
/

580 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:02:17pm

re: #569 NYCHardhat

No shit moment of the day.

I'd also call that a deep shit moment.

581 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:02:37pm

re: #577 jcm

Wha? The oceans aren't receding, the air isn't cleaner, jobs being produced out of green unicorn farts?

You know, I thought we were going to live in utopia, but reality sunk in.

582 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:03:10pm

re: #564 LGoPs

Years ago Michael Medved wrote a book - Hollywood vs America, I believe, and part of his thesis was that it was demonstrable that movies that would appeal to fly-over country were guaranteed money makers.....yet hollywood still persisted in making anti-American, anti-culture movies, profit be damned. Shows you what committed idealougues they are........they can all go bankrupt and start waiting tables far as I'm concerned.

Somehow, they lost the fact that they are competing for our business. When coke stumbles, pepsi goes for the throat. When NYT stumbles, all the other newspapers circle the wagons around them-go figure. That's why they HATE Murdoch-he goes for the throat.

583 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:03:13pm

re: #578 rawmuse

Taxpayers are Republicans. Tax suckers are Democrats.

At least I know one person is paying attention.

584 monkeytime  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:03:29pm

re: #574 MandyManners

That bastard's trying to wrap himself in patriotism in order to further his anti-capitalist agenda.

What the hell? We're the ones that bought their overpriced pieces of shit to "buy American". bastards.

585 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:03:54pm

re: #580 MandyManners

I'd also call that a deep shit moment.

Deep Shit, by Miss Mandy....

586 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:04:27pm

re: #585 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Deep Shit, by Miss Mandy....

LMAO!

587 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:04:34pm

Jesse Jackson Jr. is unhappy:

Jesse Jackson Jr.: 'I want my name back'

CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. said Friday that he was fighting to get "my name back" after he was identified as "Senate Candidate 5" in a criminal complaint against Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

Jackson said he had fought corruption "since day one" but said he could not serve as Illinois senator until his name was cleared in the public eye.

"While I would be honored to serve the people of this state, it is clear to me that I am no capacity to serve them if there is a cloud over my head that seems to suggest that I am involved in some unscrupulous scheme to be a United States senator or anything else," Jackson told CNN's Don Lemon.

Yeah, the son of one of the dirtiest shake down artists and crooks Chicago has ever produced does can't stand it that word got out that he was being shook down himself.

The Jackson's have their reputation to think of you know....

588 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:04:53pm

re: #585 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Deep Shit, by Miss Mandy....

How dare you use such language in front of a lady!
You CAD!
/ ;-P

589 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:05:15pm

re: #576 monkeytime

I can't open your link. :>(

Try this one: [Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

590 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:05:25pm

re: #569 NYCHardhat

With woes foreign and domestic on more fronts than even Franklin Delano Roosevelt encountered when he took office in the midst of the Great Depression, Obama will be sworn in as the country's 44th president in January.


Unless we are about to go to war with both Russia and China that's a bit of a stretch.

591 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:05:45pm

re: #587 3 wood

Jesse Jackson Jr. is unhappy:

Jesse Jackson Jr.: 'I want my name back'

I'll say...I mean, look at what a mess Michael has become...lol


Yeah, the son of one of the dirtiest shake down artists and crooks Chicago has ever produced does can't stand it that word got out that he was being shook down himself.

The Jackson's have their reputation to think of you know....

592 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:05:57pm

re: #580 MandyManners

I'd also call that a deep shit moment.

Adversity is the true test of one's character. My prediction is that Obama will be found wanting.

593 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:06:14pm

re: #585 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Deep Shit, by Miss Mandy....

Miss Mandy

594 legalpad  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:06:44pm

re: #362 BigMoo

Talk about a tough day-my son (Army Lt.) just texted me that they've closed the door on his plane-and headed to Afghanistan. His first deployment-and ours. Saw him off yesterday as they've been 'locked down' since last night. Didn't think it'd be this tough.
Time for a drink.

I don't have to tell you - but if you keep up with where his unit is, if and when possible, then you can rule out most casualty reports. There are web sites that have pretty good DOD data. It has been a bit since I tracked them but I am about to start it up again.

595 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:06:49pm

re: #562 BigMoo

Exactly-you look at the utter crap they've tried to put out representing Iraq and they HAD to know they would never recoup their expenses on those messes.

I guess it's time for a personal disclaimer here. I once owned a small record company. I do know what the expenses and profit margins on artistic products are, well music any ways and it pretty massive if you can sell enough to cover the overhead costs. The catch is to sell your product. For example, a CD that sells one million copies at $16.99 per copy brings in.... $16,900,000.00 dollars in sales revenue and another $5,000,000.00 in royalties. Where as the total cost of recording, packaging, distribution and advertising is around $3,000,000.00

The movie industry works in a very similar fashion, the actual cost is far out stripped by gross revenue.

596 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:07:17pm

re: #534 3 wood

Rare dagger board schooner found sitting upright in 500 feeto of water in Lake Ontario

200 Year Old “Dagger-Board” Schooner Discovered in Lake Ontario

There's some great footage there of this ship.

They actually have very little information on these types of ships, and no record of this particular ship.

Anybody with any information is asked to make contact.

I have a book about pirates that says schooners are an American variant of the sloop. The difference is that sloops have one mast, schooners have two or more.

This site has a fair amount of information on the find, and on dagger-board schooners in general.

597 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:07:30pm

re: #470 hermit

Hey goddess...
If it's not too personal, I'm curious about your teaching situation, ages ... subjects ... what you love most about teaching.

I teach 9th grade English, a drama class, and gifted ed classes.

I love sharing what I know with teens and getting them to THINK. I love their humor and (yes, it's true!) innocence. I love loving what I do and whom I work with. I love the look on their faces when something "clicks." I love the kind of immortality I achieve by being remembered.

I think that about covers it!

598 LGoPs  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:08:07pm

re: #587 3 wood

Jesse Jackson Jr. is unhappy:

Jesse Jackson Jr.: 'I want my name back'


Yeah, the son of one of the dirtiest shake down artists and crooks Chicago has ever produced does can't stand it that word got out that he was being shook down himself.

The Jackson's have their reputation to think of you know....

His name was sold years ago by his whore of a father....
Can't think of a more subtle way to put it.....

599 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:08:08pm

re: #595 doriangrey

Yeah, it's a 'Big bucket' isn't it ?

600 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:08:11pm

re: #593 NYCHardhat

That's my favorite one. That one and the "The face of a child says so much; especially the mouth part of the child's face."

601 monkeytime  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:08:17pm

re: #587 3 wood

Jesse Jackson Jr. is unhappy:

Jesse Jackson Jr.: 'I want my name back'


Yeah, the son of one of the dirtiest shake down artists and crooks Chicago has ever produced does can't stand it that word got out that he was being shook down himself.

The Jackson's have their reputation to think of you know....

Well - If it's a name he is looking for - Michael Jackson just dumped his so it is available.

602 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:08:55pm

re: #600 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's my favorite one. That one and the "The face of a child says so much; especially the mouth part of the child's face."

I'm partial to the Flippy and Hambone one.

603 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:09:29pm

GM just about to pass Go and get billions:

GM Moves Closer to Bailout as Wagoner Holds Talks With Bolten

Dec. 13 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp. moved closer to a possible government rescue yesterday as the Bush administration said it may tap a bank bailout fund for financing and GM's top executive discussed terms with administration officials.

GM Chief Executive Officer Rick Wagoner spoke by telephone with White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson about a short-term plan to keep the automaker solvent, a person familiar with the talks said.

The talks followed a statement by the White House that it would consider using the Troubled Asset Relief Program to help GM and Chrysler LLC following the Senate's rejection of an aid package the night before.

``Congress has really punted the ball over to the White House,'' John Bogle, founder of the $80.6 billion Vanguard 500 Index Fund, said in a Bloomberg Television interview. ``That will give them temporary stopgap aid. I do not think General Motors is going to go out of business.''

604 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:10:29pm

re: #596 Steffan

I have a book about pirates that says schooners are an American variant of the sloop. The difference is that sloops have one mast, schooners have two or more.

This site has a fair amount of information on the find, and on dagger-board schooners in general.

Sounds good. If it's anything unique you might want to email them.

605 BigMoo  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:10:41pm

re: #594 legalpad

Thanks-yeah, we've got to figure that stuff out. It's funny, when we tried to look up his approx location on google earth, images of the area had obviously been 'air brushed'- at least that means 'hadji' can't use the tool to their benefit. I was shocked google would be so 'partisan'...

606 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:11:29pm

re: #603 3 wood

Any chance some organization will sue to prevent TARP funds from being used for an auto bailout?

607 MandyManners  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:11:40pm

re: #593 NYCHardhat

Miss Mandy

*shaking head*

That's some sick shit. But, funny.

608 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:12:27pm

re: #454 lifeofthemind

Spent my life trying to pry the stories out of my Father, like most truly good men he was reluctant to talk about it, and now he is gone.

my dad talked to me about his pacific exploits often enough...I'm not sure what you mean but my father was a "truly good man"...

609 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:13:06pm

GMAC Extends Debt Swap, Sweetens Terms to Boost Participation

Dec. 13 (Bloomberg) -- GMAC LLC, the lender to customers and dealers of General Motors Corp., sweetened terms on a debt swap designed to save the firm from bankruptcy and extended the deadline for a fourth time to lure more investors.

Holders of a “substantial portion” of $38 billion in GMAC debt agreed in principle to new terms including an improved interest rate and a capital contribution by its owners, Detroit- based GMAC said in a statement. The deadline was extended from yesterday to Dec. 16 for early delivery, with final expiration set on Dec. 26.

The swap would pave the way for GMAC to convert to a bank holding company and gain access to U.S. rescue programs. Even with the new accord, GMAC remains short of the 75 percent participation needed for its recovery plan to work. So far, only a quarter of the affected debt has been tendered. Without the swap, GMAC has said its application to become a bank will fail, and analysts have said bankruptcy would likely follow.

I guarantee GMAC will somehow qualify for coverage as a "bank" by the Fed's.

610 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:13:10pm

re: #608 albusteve

my dad talked to me about his pacific exploits often enough...I'm not sure what you mean but my father was a "truly good man"...

Were was your dad in the pacific. My dad was at Iwo Jima.

611 monkeytime  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:13:15pm

re: #589 gclaghorn

Try this one: [Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

Those are good pictures of Al hamming it up with kids for publicity! What a tool. I hear he also plays the sax now. Totally ripping off Clinton.

612 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:13:21pm

re: #601 monkeytime

Well - If it's a name he is looking for - Michael Jackson just dumped his so it is available.


Did he take on a Muslim name?

613 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:13:31pm

re: #545 LGoPs

And the Tokyo one was deadlier than the A-bomb......

Well, yeah. Japanese houses at the time used wood and paper. Some older traditional houses still have sliding doors made of wood and paper.

It had to have been horrific.

614 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:13:43pm

re: #606 gregg

Any chance some organization will sue to prevent TARP funds from being used for an auto bailout?

Sure, you can sue for anything. But the terms were so general I doubt it would stick.

615 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:14:10pm

re: #612 Rancher

Did he take on a Muslim name?

I think it was touch-a-boy.

616 LoFlyer  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:14:13pm

Arr evening mates. A productive day at work, we brought up our second ISP connection with load balancing and Active/passive fail-over. It works well except one of our security "boxes" interface is fried. We upgrades the box recently and we still have the same of issue of the interface failing and after we wiggle the interface it comes back up.
/Help wanted! Wiggle operator II. 92 grand a year....

617 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:14:26pm

re: #381 BigMoo

Thanks VERY much.

I'm in for a high five...good for him...and us

618 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:14:34pm

re: #606 gregg

Any chance some organization will sue to prevent TARP funds from being used for an auto bailout?

Like who? The Masons? A local Elk Lodge? The Mormon Tabernacle Choir? Jesse Jacksons Push/ Rainbow coalition !?!?!?!

619 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:14:56pm

re: #598 LGoPs

His name was sold years ago by his whore of a father....
Can't think of a more subtle way to put it.....


I think that is dead bang accurate.

Just wait, the Jackson's will cry racism before this is over.

620 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:14:56pm

re: #612 Rancher

Did he take on a Muslim name?

Aisha?

621 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:14:58pm

re: #613 Steffan

Well, yeah. Japanese houses at the time used wood and paper. Some older traditional houses still have sliding doors made of wood and paper.

It had to have been horrific.

There wouldn't have been nothing if Japan hadn't started something...

622 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:15:13pm

re: #612 Rancher

Did he take on a Muslim name?

I he did, I wonder if he took a female name to go with his burka?

623 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:15:40pm

re: #622 gregg

beatcha!

624 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:16:12pm

re: #616 LoFlyer

Arr evening mates. A productive day at work, we brought up our second ISP connection with load balancing and Active/passive fail-over. It works well except one of our security "boxes" interface is fried. We upgrades the box recently and we still have the same of issue of the interface failing and after we wiggle the interface it comes back up.
/Help wanted! Wiggle operator II. 92 grand a year....

I'll take that job.... I cans wiggle a wire wif da bestess of dems.... ;)

625 spirochete  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:16:28pm

Anyone following the situation in Greece? I was initially surprised that the "youths" weren't Islamic, but anarchists. But my gut feeling is there is leftist influence here. I can't seem to find much analysis anywhere online.

626 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:16:43pm

re: #538 Dustyvet

World War II
from the film Smash-Up: The Story of a Woman, 1947

Albert served as a lieutenant in the United States Coast Guard in the Pacific during World War II. A genuine war hero, he was awarded the Bronze Star for his actions during the Battle of Tarawa in 1943, when, as a landing ship pilot, he rescued several hundred wounded Marines while under heavy enemy machine-gun fire. He later described some of these events during a short interview in a segment of a program about the war, which appeared on the History Channel. He also discussed it with Col. Ollie North on his series, War Stories (FOX). Albert returned from the war a different actor with a darker screen persona, although it would take another ten years before he became better known to audiences.


Albert was particularly good in the under rated Captain Newman MD as Col Bliss, Mr Past and Mr Future. An amazing movie, tragedy and comedy together. Watch the whole thing if you can.

627 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:17:07pm

Gotta get ready for dinner.

Later.

628 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:17:12pm

re: #610 Nevergiveup

Were was your dad in the pacific. My dad was at Iwo Jima.

Tarawa, Saipan and Tinian, Okinawa...his 2div was so shot to pieces on Saipan they were not field effective....they had to create a coupla new divisions for the mess on Iwo...the 3rd and 5th I think....

629 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:18:40pm

re: #616 LoFlyer

Arr evening mates. A productive day at work, we brought up our second ISP connection with load balancing and Active/passive fail-over. It works well except one of our security "boxes" interface is fried. We upgrades the box recently and we still have the same of issue of the interface failing and after we wiggle the interface it comes back up.
/Help wanted! Wiggle operator II. 92 grand a year....


Sorry, I don't speak pirate. The only thing I understood was help wanted.

630 LoFlyer  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:18:52pm

re: #624 doriangrey

I'll take that job.... I cans wiggle a wire wif da bestess of dems.... ;)

You are unqualified mate! The Dems waffle, not wiggle!

631 monkeytime  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:19:02pm

re: #615 Nevergiveup

I think it was touch-a-boy.


Yous All'in Mypajamabottoms

632 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:19:04pm

re: #613 Steffan

Well, yeah. Japanese houses at the time used wood and paper. Some older traditional houses still have sliding doors made of wood and paper.

It had to have been horrific.

it was that...so was Cologn and Hamburg and Dresden...makes you wonder just what the hell total war is in fact

633 Macker  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:19:07pm

re: #612 Rancher

Did he take on a Muslim name?

According to this report, he's now known as Mikaeel.

634 legalpad  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:19:09pm

re: #605 BigMoo

Thanks-yeah, we've got to figure that stuff out. It's funny, when we tried to look up his approx location on google earth, images of the area had obviously been 'air brushed'- at least that means 'hadji' can't use the tool to their benefit. I was shocked google would be so 'partisan'...

Yeah, the news reports sometimes give approximate locations. Most of the time I could rule out my son's involvement in an incident because I knew he wasn't there. I feel every one of them, though. I wish I could be there instead of them. All of them I have met wouldn't miss it for the world.

635 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:19:17pm

re: #628 albusteve

Tarawa, Saipan and Tinian, Okinawa...his 2div was so shot to pieces on Saipan they were not field effective....they had to create a coupla new divisions for the mess on Iwo...the 3rd and 5th I think....

The 4th and the 5th Marine Division made the initial assaults on Iwo Jima and the 3rd was held in reserve but not for long. My dad was attached to the 4th Marines.

636 LoFlyer  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:19:46pm

re: #629 Rancher

Sorry, I don't speak pirate. The only thing I understood was help wanted.

Pirate speak not necessary mate. Just an ability to sleep till needed!

637 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:20:53pm

re: #630 LoFlyer

You are unqualified mate! The Dems waffle, not wiggle!

Not democrats ya pickle brained scalawag.... dems as in dems guys over dare or dem guys over heya...

638 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:20:56pm

re: #621 doriangrey

There wouldn't have been nothing if Japan hadn't started something...

the wartime Shintoists were some of the most cruel people ever...

639 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:21:04pm

[Link: cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com...]

weatherman terrorism? anyother reports on this one?

640 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:21:46pm

re: #638 albusteve

there is a reason they were allies with nazi germany

641 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:21:48pm

Going to see a fun Irish Band tonight. Bawdy songs and debauchery, just what the Doctor ordered.

Bawdy songs and debauchery is not the name of the band (though it should be), The Scruffy Murphy Band is playing.

642 LoFlyer  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:21:54pm

re: #637 doriangrey

Not democrats ya pickle brained scalawag.... dems as in dems guys over dare or dem guys over heya...

Haar! I strike 'me flag!

643 NYCHardhat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:21:59pm

re: #607 MandyManners

*shaking head*

That's some sick shit. But, funny.

Glad you liked it! :)

644 LoFlyer  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:22:30pm

re: #641 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Going to see a fun Irish Band tonight. Bawdy songs and debauchery, just what the Doctor ordered.

Bawdy songs and debauchery is not the name of the band (though it should be), The Scruffy Murphy Band is playing.

Sounds fun mate, drink one for me!

645 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:22:57pm

re: #614 3 wood

Sure, you can sue for anything. But the terms were so general I doubt it would stick.

From the Heritage Foundation:

More problematic, Treasury lacks the statutory authority to direct TARP dollars to the automakers. While the statute, passed by Congress in October, grants the secretary extremely broad discretion to decide how to employ the funds, it clearly limits the recipients to “financial institutions.” And the definition of that term is quite clear:

FINANCIAL INSTITUTION- The term ‘financial institution’ means any institution, including, but not limited to, any bank, savings association, credit union, security broker or dealer, or insurance company, established and regulated under the laws of the United States or any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the District of Columbia, Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, American Samoa, or the United States Virgin Islands, and having significant operations in the United States, but excluding any central bank of, or institution owned by, a foreign government.

This doesn’t leave much room for interpretation.

I have no idea who would sue. Are there any ACLU type organizations that stand up for capitalism?

646 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:23:13pm

re: #642 LoFlyer

Haar! I strike 'me flag!

No need mate, just scrap yer barnacles and pass the rum....

647 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:23:35pm

re: #631 monkeytime

Yous All'in Mypajamabottoms

Mustaffa Molesta Boya

648 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:24:55pm

"Some people think that the scariest thing on Earth is a stampeding elephant, others a man-eating shark. I think it's a stampeding elephant with a shark strapped to its back, tampling and devouring everything in its path."

-Jack Handy...

Y'all have fun tonight! I'm going to!

649 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:25:05pm

BBIAW--I'm taking the Lizard in Training to his Christmas dance.

650 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:25:41pm

re: #635 Nevergiveup

The 4th and the 5th Marine Division made the initial assaults on Iwo Jima and the 3rd was held in reserve but not for long. My dad was attached to the 4th Marines.

Iwo eventually sucked in all of them...a very difficult fight in terms of the time element...it went on way longer than expected...... the story of the Marines fighting their way up through the central Pacific is an epic tale of heroism in that conditions were monumentally impossible and the enemy had to be killed to a man literally...yet they did it....awsome

651 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:25:51pm

re: #649 goddessoftheclassroom

BBIAW--I'm taking the Lizard in Training to his Christmas dance.

See ya later sweetie pie.... ;)

652 LoFlyer  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:25:54pm

re: #646 doriangrey

No need mate, just scrap yer barnacles and pass the rum....

No rum available mate, how about a shot of 'me favorite, George Dickel? Who cares about barnacles! Arrr!

653 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:26:57pm

re: #640 yochanan

there is a reason they were allies with nazi germany

indeed...they will be trying to figure out those two for a long while yet...mind boggling...

654 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:27:37pm

re: #652 LoFlyer

No rum available mate, how about a shot of 'me favorite, George Dickel? Who cares about barnacles! Arrr!

Owwwww, you got's some Dickel? That's some good shit there matey........... We cant get it out here on the left coast... ;(

655 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:27:37pm

re: #528 Racer X

Wait - what is the current total population of earth?

6.7 billion.

Yep, so according to The Canadian, 2/3 of the world will die off in the next 4 years.

656 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:28:40pm

re: #650 albusteve

Iwo eventually sucked in all of them...a very difficult fight in terms of the time element...it went on way longer than expected...... the story of the Marines fighting their way up through the central Pacific is an epic tale of heroism in that conditions were monumentally impossible and the enemy had to be killed to a man literally...yet they did it....awsome

Yup, when people today complain about casualties in any conflict ( and of course even one US Service person lost is a tragedy ) they really should pick up a military history book and read it before they make fools of themselves.

657 LoFlyer  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:29:44pm

re: #654 doriangrey

Owwwww, you got's some Dickel? That's some good shit there matey........... We cant get it out here on the left coast... ;(

No problem, I'll ship it over the Internet mate!
/Technology is great! Yaar!

658 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:29:54pm

re: #557 gclaghorn

A run *on* GM and Chrysler? Judging by their sales, I'd say everyone's runniny *away* from GM and Chrysler.

GM stock is currently $3.95, up $.01. I don't see any Chrysler stock info.

659 Alouette  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:30:28pm

re: #12 amir

Here is a link to a tragic story from Yemen:
[Link: www.sabanews.net...]
A Jewish man, father of eight, was murdered by a Muslim who "for the sake of Allah." This same man murdered his wife two years before but was let go by the court after he paid the woman's family compensation. Yemen law is based on Islamic law.

I do not understand why there are Jews are still living in Yemen. Or Iran.

660 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:30:55pm

re: #479 ploome hineni

...watch it!

Al Gore: "North Pole Will Disappear in 5 Years" (Video)

what is he sMOKin'?

That's funny - the North Pole was supposed to have completely disappeared by 2008!

In a related story, Goreball Warmening now has it's own equivalent of the throbbing memo!

661 NelsFree  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:31:40pm

re: #229 jcm

...and how much money is she willing to pay for a guy like that?
/s

662 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:32:34pm

re: #659 Alouette

I do not understand why there are Jews are still living in Yemen. Or Iran.

Well I don't know about Yemen, but in Iran they Jews remaining are mostly older and unwilling to leave. And the Authorities don't make it easy for them to leave either.

663 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:32:50pm

re: #653 albusteve

it seems like the Nazis had a plan...cold and cruel they went about their business...ordering this and documenting that...the Japanese just seemed to have slaughter in their blood...a natural extention of their dominance...they hacked and chopped their way across China and south Asia without a care in the world....the sacking of Manilla was actually a strategic mistake but they did it because they could....

664 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:34:37pm

I think I'll teach my daughter this skill....

No means, NO!

665 lifeofthemind  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:35:24pm

Jesse Jackson wants his good name back? Maurice Stans is unavailable for comment.

666 gregg  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:35:26pm

re: #658 Steffan

GM stock is currently $3.95, up $.01. I don't see any Chrysler stock info.

Chrysler was bought by Cerberus Capital Management - a private investment company, so I don't think trades on a stock exchange.

667 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:35:33pm

re: #658 Steffan

I don't see any Chrysler stock info.

That's because it's privately owned by Cerebus

/so go figure why the [expletive deleted] taxpayers are supposed to bail Chrysler out when Cerebus won't won't put money into their own company

668 LoFlyer  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:36:18pm

re: #661 NelsFree

...and how much money is she willing to pay for a guy like that?
/s

Interesting link mate, thanks! We have been down into the 20's the last four weeks in ATL and the media still shills the Greens. The only time it warms up is when it rains.
/this sux mates...

669 debutaunt  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:36:24pm

re: #618 sattv4u2

Like who? The Masons? A local Elk Lodge? The Mormon Tabernacle Choir? Jesse Jacksons Push/ Rainbow coalition !?!?!?!

I've heard it called the morbid tabernacle choir.

670 joegosox  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:37:09pm

...and somebody's responsible.

671 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:38:00pm

re: #604 3 wood

Sounds good. If it's anything unique you might want to email them.

It's not that unique -- I got it from the Military Book Club. Pirates by Angus Konstam, with some outstanding illustrations by Angus McBride.

672 LoFlyer  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:38:08pm

BBL mates, dinner calls!

673 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:38:24pm

re: #656 Nevergiveup

Yup, when people today complain about casualties in any conflict ( and of course even one US Service person lost is a tragedy ) they really should pick up a military history book and read it before they make fools of themselves.

ironically Tarawa (Betio) was the first time the MC allowed film journalists to go in and document the fight...dozens of dead Marines on the beaches and roasted, smoldering Japanese really blew away the American public...but the idea was to show how tough things were and rally some support...true to form Elanore Roosevelt trashed the Marines calling them cruel and vicious animals...some things never change....most people have no clue as to the nature of war and what it takes to prevail....

674 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:38:50pm

re: #672 LoFlyer

BBL mates, dinner calls!

What does your dinner call you?

Inquiring minds want to know!

675 monkeytime  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:40:23pm

re: #674 jcm

What does your dinner call you?

Inquiring minds want to know!


Murderer!

676 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:41:43pm

re: #674 jcm

What does your dinner call you?

Inquiring minds want to know!

re: #675 monkeytime

Murderer!

Good - that means LoFlyer eats liberals!

677 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:41:48pm

re: #621 doriangrey

There wouldn't have been nothing if Japan hadn't started something...

Very true. IIRC Tojo had bragged that we'd never touch the Home Islands.

We kinda sorta reached out and touched him. Repeatedly.

678 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:42:34pm

re: #677 Steffan

Very true. IIRC Tojo had bragged that we'd never touch the Home Islands.

We kinda sorta reached out and touched him. Repeatedly.

and then put him to the rope...

679 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:43:45pm

al gore looks deranged. his eyes, his jerky movements, preposterous statements.
this is what he has become. a lunatic.
in spite of all the money.

680 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:44:07pm

re: #677 Steffan

Very true. IIRC Tojo had bragged that we'd never touch the Home Islands.

We kinda sorta reached out and touched him. Repeatedly.

Dolittle fixed that, 4 months after Pearl.

681 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:44:27pm

Interesting excerpt from Jay Leno’s Move Hints at Future of Prime-Time TV (Yeah, it the NYTimes, sorry):

The programming and viewing habits of the last 50 years — exemplified by the checkerboard of competing programs on the broadcast networks — are being replaced by an Internet-influenced time-shifting model of scheduling. As a result, the very definition of prime time may be changing.

“We do have to continue to rethink what a broadcast network is,” Jeffrey Zucker, the chief executive of NBC Universal, a unit of General Electric, said at an industry conference Monday, hours before the news of Mr. Leno’s new assignment emerged. He warned that if changes were not undertaken, “the broadcast networks will end up like the newspaper business or, worse, like the car companies.” Maybe Mr. Zucker has seen the future; after all, his network has lost 50 percent of its 10 p.m. audience in the last three years.

682 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:44:41pm

Iranian university bestows honorary doctorate on Nasrallah

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Hey Columbia University---How'd ya miss this one?

683 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:45:22pm

re: #679 nyc redneck

al gore looks deranged. his eyes, his jerky movements, preposterous statements.
this is what he has become. a lunatic.
in spite of all the money.

"In spite of"?!?

As my grandparents used to say, "Money doesn't change people. It merely magnifies them."

684 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:46:08pm

re: #680 jcm

Dolittle fixed that, 4 months after Pearl.

can you just imagine having never even seen an airplane looking up and seeing those Mitchells roaring over at 1500-2000ft?

685 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:46:23pm

re: #638 albusteve

the wartime Shintoists were some of the most cruel people ever...

Yeppers. People who surrendered rather than dying bravely for their cause were less than vermin in their eyes. That's why they treated POWs the way they did.

This is not to excuse them -- the sections of the Geneva Conventions they didn't violate is a very short list.

686 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:46:56pm

re: #673 albusteve

...true to form Elanore Roosevelt trashed the Marines calling them cruel and vicious animals...


I couldn't believe that so I checked. Are you referring to this quote?

The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!
687 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:47:48pm
688 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:50:06pm

re: #684 albusteve

can you just imagine having never even seen an airplane looking up and seeing those Mitchells roaring over at 1500-2000ft?

From what I've read, a lot of folks on the home islands thought they were Japanese planes.

689 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:51:22pm

This is too funny! Wait - the guy is serious? This is just too sad:

Innocent 'til proven guilty: get your FREE BLAGO blog widget!

690 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:51:23pm

re: #667 Killian Bundy

That's because it's privately owned by Cerebus

/so go figure why the [expletive deleted] taxpayers are supposed to bail Chrysler out when Cerebus won't won't put money into their own company

Because Cerberus doesn't want to spend their own money.

If they can get Uncle Sugar to finance their idiocy, so much the better.

691 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:51:25pm

re: #686 Rancher

obviously not...I have no documentation but it seems her untoward attitude about the Marines was at least anecdotal...I guess I should dig into it

692 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:52:36pm

re: #691 albusteve

obviously not...I have no documentation but it seems her untoward attitude about the Marines was at least anecdotal...I guess I should dig into it

That might be the quote and I don't think she meant it as an insult.

693 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:52:42pm

re: #688 jcm

From what I've read, a lot of folks on the home islands thought they were Japanese planes.

what brave men...literally a suicide mission

694 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:53:35pm

re: #677 Steffan

Very true. IIRC Tojo had bragged that we'd never touch the Home Islands.

We kinda sorta reached out and touched him. Repeatedly.

Tojo may have made that idle boast, but Yamamoto repeatedly warned that attacking the United States was a mistake of historic proportions. He only conceded to the plan when threatened by the emperor himself. Not all Japanese were evil, just as not all Germans were. Many were just patriotic citizens of their respective nations caught up in events beyond their control.

695 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:55:19pm

re: #693 albusteve

what brave men...literally a suicide mission

30 Seconds Over Tokyo. Ted Lawson.
Book and Movie.

696 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:57:15pm

re: #694 doriangrey

Tojo may have made that idle boast, but Yamamoto repeatedly warned that attacking the United States was a mistake of historic proportions. He only conceded to the plan when threatened by the emperor himself. Not all Japanese were evil, just as not all Germans were. Many were just patriotic citizens of their respective nations caught up in events beyond their control.

Shintoism was a cult within their society...very similar to Nazism...madmen...certainly they dragged down their respective counties into defeat despite those who knew better...sound familiar?

697 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:57:33pm

re: #693 albusteve

what brave men...literally a suicide mission

Dolittle Raiders.

698 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:57:50pm

re: #696 albusteve

Shintoism was a cult within their society...very similar to Nazism...madmen...certainly they dragged down their respective counties into defeat despite those who knew better...sound familiar?

Yup, all to familiar...

699 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:58:02pm

re: #688 jcm

From what I've read, a lot of folks on the home islands thought they were Japanese planes.

The people in Hiroshima thought that single B-29 was on a recon mission, so they didn't head for the bomb shelters.

If there had been no Pearl Harbor, there would have been no Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

700 Nevergiveup  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:58:41pm

re: #694 doriangrey

Tojo may have made that idle boast, but Yamamoto repeatedly warned that attacking the United States was a mistake of historic proportions. He only conceded to the plan when threatened by the emperor himself. Not all Japanese were evil, just as not all Germans were. Many were just patriotic citizens of their respective nations caught up in events beyond their control.

I never read anywhere that Yamamoto was threatened by the Emperor. it doesn't sound like something the Emperor would do? As I understood it, as much as Yamamoto realized War with the USA would be suicidal in the long run, he finally went along with the attack on Pearl Harbor as a way to give the Japan the best chance of striking hard at America and perhaps either prolong the war or make America sue for peace. I don't think he ever envisioned Japan marching down Pennsylvania Avenue. I don't believe the Emperor was involved in the War planning at that level.

701 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:58:41pm

re: #689 gmsc

This is too funny! Wait - the guy is serious? This is just too sad:

Innocent 'til proven guilty: get your FREE BLAGO blog widget!

I think it's sarcastic. If you read the rest of the blog, it looks pretty conservative.

702 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 3:59:39pm

any more reports on the bank bombing on the west coast that claimed the lives of two police officers?

703 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:00:11pm

re: #683 gmsc

"In spite of"?!?

As my grandparents used to say, "Money doesn't change people. It merely magnifies them."

money can't buy happiness. and in his case, it certainly doesn't seem to help w/ sanity either. and those people in the audience hanging on his every word are nuts too. gore never got over the office of potus barely slipping away from him. he is haunted by this cruel act of 'fate' and i think he is not just lashing out at america, he is trying to harm the world, for what has so unfairly happened to him. he is a dangerous zealot full of sh*t.

704 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:00:23pm

re: #695 jcm

30 Seconds Over Tokyo. Ted Lawson.
Book and Movie.

the whole of the story...down to one carrier...the heroism at Wake Island...the luck of Midway...it just defies reason but yet it's all true...awsome

705 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:00:39pm

re: #701 gclaghorn

I think it's sarcastic. If you read the rest of the blog, it looks pretty conservative.

And he has an "LGF Headlines" widget on the sidebar of his site!

706 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:02:23pm

re: #699 Steffan

The people in Hiroshima thought that single B-29 was on a recon mission, so they didn't head for the bomb shelters.

If there had been no Pearl Harbor, there would have been no Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

If the Russians had won at Tushima Straits, the Japanese militarists might not have had the capital start the chain of events in Manchuria in '31. Even then they staged the invasion without the emperor's knowledge and presented him with a fait au complet.

707 Steffan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:02:33pm

re: #694 doriangrey

Tojo may have made that idle boast, but Yamamoto repeatedly warned that attacking the United States was a mistake of historic proportions. He only conceded to the plan when threatened by the emperor himself. Not all Japanese were evil, just as not all Germans were. Many were just patriotic citizens of their respective nations caught up in events beyond their control.

In a way, I'm sorry that Yamamoto and Rommel didn't survive the war. The meeting of Yamamoto and Nimitz, or Rommel and Patton, would have been epic.

708 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:02:51pm
709 Macker  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:03:38pm

Charles: You really have seen this movie, haven't you!

710 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:03:41pm

re: #700 Nevergiveup

I never read anywhere that Yamamoto was threatened by the Emperor. it doesn't sound like something the Emperor would do? As I understood it, as much as Yamamoto realized War with the USA would be suicidal in the long run, he finally went along with the attack on Pearl Harbor as a way to give the Japan the best chance of striking hard at America and perhaps either prolong the war or make America sue for peace. I don't think he ever envisioned Japan marching down Pennsylvania Avenue. I don't believe the Emperor was involved in the War planning at that level.

Yamamoto was under enormous pressure to produce from Tojo not the Emp Hirohito...a brave man doomed from the beginning...more myth

711 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:06:12pm

re: #707 Steffan

Yeah, too bad. I heard there's actually a board game out there which depicts a fictional engagement between Patton and Rommel after D-Day.

712 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:07:36pm

re: #707 Steffan

In a way, I'm sorry that Yamamoto and Rommel didn't survive the war. The meeting of Yamamoto and Nimitz, or Rommel and Patton, would have been epic.

Rommel was another non believer yet brilliant tactician...he was doomed just like Yamamoto...it's curious what Pattons attitude toward Rommel would have been...I've never pondered it...one of respect I suppose....both highly competative men...

713 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:07:49pm

doriangrey (#694),

Many were just patriotic citizens of their respective nations caught up in events beyond their control.

What a glib dismissal of German and Japanese atrocities.

714 davinvalkri  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:07:53pm

re: #709 Macker

Sorry for the double post, but is the movie actually as bad as they say it is?

715 stuiec  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:08:23pm

re: #702 yochanan

any more reports on the bank bombing on the west coast that claimed the lives of two police officers?

Bill Ayers couldn't be reached for comment.

716 EmmmieG  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:10:02pm

re: #702 yochanan

any more reports on the bank bombing on the west coast that claimed the lives of two police officers?

[Link: www.oregonlive.com...]

Well, we now know their names: Senior Trooper William Hakim, and Capt. Tom Tennant.

There is no information yet on the identity of the perpetrator, but as this is Oregon, it could be anyone from an ecoterrorist (we have those out here, but usually those guys strike at furriers and big-car dealers), to someone who was going to lose his/her house, to the usual suspects.

717 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:11:10pm
718 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:11:30pm

re: #697 jcm

my father was at pearl harbor on that dec. 7th i bet they were proud of dolittle's guys.

719 stuiec  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:11:30pm

re: #714 davinvalkri

Sorry for the double post, but is the movie actually as bad as they say it is?

Plan 9 from Outer Space is every bit as bad as they say it is.

Or were you asking about the new The Day The Earth Stood Still?

720 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:11:45pm

Hey...is that "Bottom Comments" section of the sidebar new?

721 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:13:45pm

re: #713 Geepers

doriangrey (#694),

What a glib dismissal of German and Japanese atrocities.

there is alot of truth to that...you have to go back decades at the least to understand how these regimes evolved...but at the point of open warfare in the late 30's neither population was gonna do a whole lot to stop their totalitarian rulers....I dont think it's fair to call it a glib dismissal

722 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:13:50pm
723 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:14:34pm

re: #703 nyc redneck

money can't buy happiness. and in his case, it certainly doesn't seem to help w/ sanity either. and those people in the audience hanging on his every word are nuts too. gore never got over the office of potus barely slipping away from him. he is haunted by this cruel act of 'fate' and i think he is not just lashing out at america, he is trying to harm the world, for what has so unfairly happened to him. he is a dangerous zealot full of sh*t.

"You're dead for a real long time.
You just can't prevent it.
So if money can't buy happiness,
I guess I'll have to rent it!"

On a more serious note, I always keep this close to me (from a flyer from the World Financial Group) as to what money really can do:

Saving for Greatness

Your savings, believe it or not, affect the way you stand, the way you walk, the tone of your voice -- in short, your physical well-being and self-confidence. A man without savings is always running. He must. He must take the first job offered, or nearly so. He sits nervously on life’s chairs because any small emergency throws him into the hands of others.

Without savings, a man must be too grateful. Gratitude is a fine thing in its place. But a constant state of gratitude is a horrible place in which to live. A man with savings can walk tall. He may appraise opportunities in a relaxed way, have time for judicious estimates and not be rushed by economic necessity.

A man with savings can afford to resign from his job if his principles so dictate -- and for this reason he will never need to do so. A man who can afford to quit is much more useful to his company and therefore more readily promoted. He can afford to give his company the benefit of his most candid judgments.

A man with savings can afford the wonderful privilege of being generous in family or neighborhood emergencies. He can take the level stare of any man ... friend, stranger or enemy. That ability shapes his personality and character.

The ability to save has nothing to do with the size of income. Many high-income people spend it all. They are on a treadmill, darting through life like minnows.

The dean of American bankers, J.P. Morgan, once advised a young broker: "Take waste out of your spending; you’ll drive the haste out of your life."

If you do not need money for college, a home or retirement, then save for self-confidence. The state of your savings does have a lot to do with how tall you walk.

724 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:14:57pm

re: #722 taxfreekiller

#720

ya, but Cognito has been attempting to dominate it from the first day

Notice all of them are from the evolution thread.

725 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:15:06pm

re: #716 EmmmieG

[Link: www.oregonlive.com...]

Well, we now know their names: Senior Trooper William Hakim, and Capt. Tom Tennant.

There is no information yet on the identity of the perpetrator, but as this is Oregon, it could be anyone from an ecoterrorist (we have those out here, but usually those guys strike at furriers and big-car dealers), to someone who was going to lose his/her house, to the usual suspects.

I SUSPECT A PERSON WHO LOST HIS HOUSE WOULD JUST TOSS A BRICK OR TWO. the other two options are more logical.

726 Macker  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:15:07pm

re: #719 stuiec

And you know something...I've seen lots of schlock sci-fi movies in my 48 years on the Earth...but I've never seen Plan 9 From Outer Space!

727 EmmmieG  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:15:49pm

re: #723 gmsc

Yeah, you can't buy a child's love, but you can certainly rent their attention.

728 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:17:05pm

re: #718 yochanan

my father was at pearl harbor on that dec. 7th i bet they were proud of dolittle's guys.

everybody was proud of Doolittle...probably himself the most....he lived on his pride and was one tough little SOB

729 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:17:49pm

re: #723 gmsc

i love that. i read it too late tho.
i just took a vow of poverty,
;)

730 NY Nana  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:19:33pm

re: #682 Nevergiveup

Iranian university bestows honorary doctorate on Nasrallah

Speaking of the devil Nasrallah, this one I love!

731 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:19:45pm

This are getting serious in Greece...
Greek students occupy tv station to make broadcast about riots
Anyone speak Greek here?

732 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:19:50pm

re: #727 EmmmieG

Yeah, you can't buy a child's love, but you can certainly rent their attention.

Dolittle set all kinds of speed records, one of the few who could handle the Gee Bee racer, made the first instrument landing and other milestones.

733 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:21:43pm
734 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:21:50pm

re: #732 jcm

Dolittle set all kinds of speed records, one of the few who could handle the Gee Bee racer, made the first instrument landing and other milestones.

yep...a fearles little thrill seeker that never turned down a challenge...old time American....

735 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:22:12pm

Yesterday, I posted a message from another board, and got a request back to name the board, as it sounded like fun to go there.

Quick update: The thread was just removed about an hour ago.

736 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:22:13pm

re: #732 jcm

Opps replied to the wrong post...

737 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:22:23pm

re: #713 Geepers

doriangrey (#694),

What a glib dismissal of German and Japanese atrocities.

Put the crack pipe down geepers, nobody is dismissing anything. Those who committed atrocities, and there were a great multitude of those individuals, deserve the full weight of condemnation that their actions merit. But anyone who thinks that all Germans or all Japanese were guilty of atrocities is a god damned fool. It wasn't even the majority of either nations soldiers that were guilty.

738 Killian Bundy  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:22:52pm

Rewarding Failure

Oil Companies Voting With Their Feet

Less Power To Him

Obamacized GOP

/damn, reading IBD's Monday editorial page is thoroughly depressing

739 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:23:03pm

re: #736 jcm

Opps replied to the wrong post...

BUSTED!...go back to the end of the line...

740 EmmmieG  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:23:22pm

re: #725 yochanan


Actually, that was the bottom of my list, too, but mostly because the call went to the bank next door, then the bomb was found on the other bank's property, then moved indoors. I think someone would be clear which bank they were trying to bomb if they were angry about their house being taken away.

The day after Thanksgiving my daughter and I were in downtown Portland, and there were two weirdos--guy and his girlfriend--rapping, badly, about how sick the commercialism made them feel and how we should feel ashamed of themselves. I shrugged it off then, but central Oregon, and Portland, was home to a lot of hippies back in the day. My cousin who lives down there became a Wiccan. (I am not proud to admit this.)

This could be muslims, but our population percentage of hard-core leftists and teenagers with mental issues is higher.

741 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:23:23pm

re: #727 EmmmieG

Yeah, you can't buy a child's love, but you can certainly rent their attention.

re: #732 jcm

Dolittle set all kinds of speed records, one of the few who could handle the Gee Bee racer, made the first instrument landing and other milestones.

That would definitely rent a kid's attention, but it seems a little extreme . . .

742 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:23:54pm

re: #734 albusteve

yep...a fearles little thrill seeker that never turned down a challenge...old time American....

HE SURE HAD A PAIR OF BRASS ONES.

743 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:24:15pm

re: #736 jcm

Opps replied to the wrong post...

I don't know. See #741 - I thought it worked!

744 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:24:17pm

re: #731 Killgore Trout

This are getting serious in Greece...
Greek students occupy tv station to make broadcast about riots
Anyone speak Greek here?

so what's your take?...how do you handle this situation?....any thoughts?

745 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:24:39pm

re: #730 NY Nana

Speaking of the devil Nasrallah, this one I love!

hey {nana}, i love that one too.
yay.

746 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:25:03pm

re: #694 doriangrey
The Japanese Imperial Army was certainly evil.

747 stuiec  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:25:16pm

re: #726 Macker

And you know something...I've seen lots of schlock sci-fi movies in my 48 years on the Earth...but I've never seen Plan 9 From Outer Space!

If you enjoy schlock sci-fi movies, you really should see Plan 9 from Outer Space. It is the schlockiest of the schlock. Not to give away too much, but the flying saucer special effects are literally pie plates on strings -- and yes, you can see the strings.

748 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:27:36pm

re: #744 albusteve

I haven't been following the situation so I really don't have any ideas but when gangs start taking over TV and radio stations that means the government is losing control. That's 3rd world kinda stuff.

749 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:28:10pm

re: #742 yochanan

HE SURE HAD A PAIR OF BRASS ONES.

airplanes/combat seem to do that to people...he was followed by a host of others that I'm to lazy to look up!....my dads brother won the DFC in Korea driving an F86...wildmen...ha!

750 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:28:18pm

albusteve (#721),

but at the point of open warfare in the late 30's neither population was gonna do a whole lot to stop their totalitarian rulers

Is a long way from doriangrey's

Many were just patriotic citizens of their respective nations caught up in events beyond their control.

But hey, if you want to excuse the Rape of Nanjing or the massacre at Babi Yar, have at it.

751 NY Nana  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:28:30pm

re: #745 nyc redneck

I am actually amazed. I do not know how many times YouTube (shocka!) deleted it over the past few years. I had it saved, and it is still available. If I play it more than once? I can't get the tune out of my head for hours.

Enjoy! ;)

/Shhh, don't tell YouTube!

752 The Other Les  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:28:40pm

re: #726 Macker

And you know something...I've seen lots of schlock sci-fi movies in my 48 years on the Earth...but I've never seen Plan 9 From Outer Space!

Consider yourself fortunate.

753 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:28:41pm

BREAKING: Sarah Palin's church damaged in suspicious fire

ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- Gov. Sarah Palin's home church has been badly damaged in a suspicious fire.

Larry Kroon, pastor of the Wasilla Bible Church, estimates damages at more than $1 million to the church.

Kroon declined to say if the blaze was politically based or directed at Palin, the failed Republican vice presidential candidate.

Kroon says the fire broke out Friday night while a small group of women were working on crafts. They were alerted to the blaze by a fire alarm.

Kroon says he was called and by the time he got to the church, smoke was pouring out of the building. Sprinklers kept the fire from spreading beyond offices and classrooms.

Authorities are not immediately commenting, but Kroon says he's been told the fire is being investigated as a crime.

754 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:28:53pm

re: #750 Geepers

albusteve (#721),

But hey, if you want to excuse the Rape of Nanjing or the massacre at Babi Yar, have at it.

Nobody is excusing the Rape of Nanjing or the massacre at Babi Yar.

755 Bobibutu  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:29:48pm

re: #742 yochanan

HE SURE HAD A PAIR OF BRASS ONES.

A bit of trivia you may like....

Lest ye be ignorant, historical information is now given to you. Be grateful.

CANNON BALLS

It was necessary to keep a good supply of cannon balls near the cannon on old war ships.

But how to prevent them from rolling about the deck was the problem.The best storage method devised was to stack them as a square based pyramid, with one ball on top, resting on four, resting on nine, which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the cannon.

There was only one problem -- how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding/rolling from under the others. The solution was a metal plate with 16 round indentations, called, for reasons unknown, a Monkey. But if this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make them of brass - hence, Brass Monkeys.

Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and much faster than iron when chilled. Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron would roll right off the monkey. Thus, it was, quite literally, cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.

And all this time, you thought that was just a vulgar expression, didn't you?

756 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:29:51pm

re: #746 Rancher

The Japanese Imperial Army was certainly evil.

As a whole I would agree with that, but no organization as a whole is the same as it's member parts. There were plenty of decent human beings within the Japanese Imperial Army. That said, having decent human beings in their ranks didn't prevent either the Japanese or German armies from being ruthless vicious evil organizations.

757 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:30:41pm

re: #755 Bobibutu

A bit of trivia you may like....

Lest ye be ignorant, historical information is now given to you. Be grateful.

CANNON BALLS

It was necessary to keep a good supply of cannon balls near the cannon on old war ships.

But how to prevent them from rolling about the deck was the problem.The best storage method devised was to stack them as a square based pyramid, with one ball on top, resting on four, resting on nine, which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the cannon.

There was only one problem -- how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding/rolling from under the others. The solution was a metal plate with 16 round indentations, called, for reasons unknown, a Monkey. But if this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make them of brass - hence, Brass Monkeys.

Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and much faster than iron when chilled. Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron would roll right off the monkey. Thus, it was, quite literally, cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.

And all this time, you thought that was just a vulgar expression, didn't you?

LOL! That's pretty interesting.

758 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:31:14pm

re: #746 Rancher

JAPAN had a thin layer of modern society built on top of a long history of feudalism one that had a mixture of a military with complete control and a almost total form of ethnocentrism it is clear why they could unite with the German Nazis.

the Nanjing genocide and Bataan death march were done by the imperial Japanese army not some Shinto priest back in the main islands.

my son's MIL was a jewish refuge in Shanghi I wondered why they were not sent back to the Germans recently I was reading a book called the FUGU plan which gave me some insight on the matter.

759 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:31:35pm

re: #748 Killgore Trout

I haven't been following the situation so I really don't have any ideas but when gangs start taking over TV and radio stations that means the government is losing control. That's 3rd world kinda stuff.

indeed...I read the other day that Greece is the weakest link in the anarchists chain and violence will soon spread to Spain as well while their economies spiral downward...totally depressing...should've booked the article...there will be more soon I'm affraid

760 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:31:39pm

re: #742 yochanan

HE SURE HAD A PAIR OF BRASS ONES.

HELP WANTED!
Work in Washington DC
Needed:
435 Congressmen.
100 Senators
1 POTUS
15 Cabinet Secretaries.

WITH BIG BRASS ONES!

761 stuiec  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:31:56pm

It just occurred to me: it might be interesting to plaster Priuses with "PEACH MELBA" bumper stickers (rather than "IMPEACH OBAMA" ones). It would certainly confuse the hell out of them.

Or maybe diffraction ones that say "IMPEACH OBAMA" from an angle but "PEACH MELBA" when viewed straight on. That'd be trippy.

762 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:32:21pm

re: #754 gclaghorn

Nobody is excusing the Rape of Nanjing or the massacre at Babi Yar.

I hate to say this about a fellow Lizard, but geepers appears to be a hateful person incapable of grasping the most simple and basic of truths.

763 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:32:41pm

re: #691 albusteve

obviously not...I have no documentation but it seems her untoward attitude about the Marines was at least anecdotal...I guess I should dig into it


If she had such feelings she certainly wouldn't say so publicly, not in wartime, it would have raised a firestorm. Look at what happened when Patton slapped a G.I. This generation of Democrats is obviously far different though.

764 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:33:20pm

re: #750 Geepers

albusteve (#721),

But hey, if you want to excuse the Rape of Nanjing or the massacre at Babi Yar, have at it.

I dont excuse it and you know it...it's far more complicated than what you make it out to be...

765 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:34:07pm

Jesse Jackson Jr. taking some heat.

Protesters call for Jackson Jr. resignation

At least some of his constituents want embattled Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. to resign.

About a dozen protesters stood outside his Chicago office today shouting, "Ho ho ho, Jesse Jr.'s gotta go."

Protest organizer Harold Davis says he believes allegations that an emissary may have offered to raise money for Gov. Rod Blagojevich in exchange for Jackson being appointed to President-elect Barack Obama's Senate seat.

Davis says Jackson has tainted the democratic process and his political career is over.

Others in the south side neighborhood disagree. Several passersby shouted support for Jackson and one yelled, "Leave Jesse alone."

Jackson denies any wrongdoing.

766 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:34:09pm

re: #749 albusteve

airplanes/combat seem to do that to people...he was followed by a host of others that I'm to lazy to look up!....my dads brother won the DFC in Korea driving an F86...wildmen...ha!

To many to name or remember. Bong, Boyington, Yeager, Jabara, McConnell, Olds, Ritchie, DeBellevue.

767 The Other Les  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:34:51pm

re: #747 stuiec

If you enjoy schlock sci-fi movies, you really should see Plan 9 from Outer Space. It is the schlockiest of the schlock. Not to give away too much, but the flying saucer special effects are literally pie plates on strings -- and yes, you can see the strings.

Dug up an old file:

On 20 Sep 2003 12:08:49 -0700, [FNORD] (Tom R. Rastell) wrote in red.arts.movies.production:

My idea is to make a movie that´is so bad, that it will be the new definition of bad.

It should be so bad, that "Plan 9 from outer Space" is Oscar-material against my movie.

What do I need for a really bad movie ?


My reply was:

A subject that you are really and truly passionate about that no one
else could give a rat's posterior for.

Stock footage.

Speak down to the audience with badly written diologue and exposition.

Stock footage.

Cut corners on production values in a way that is clearly visible on
screen.

Did I also say stock footage, you can never have enough stock footage.

I have enough untalented amateur actors, a story that makes no sense at all but equipment for decent quality.


A well known but washed up actor or actress is often an asset. Should
he or she drop dead in mid-production you should replace him or her
with someone who isn't quite a proper double.

Above all, have fun doing it.

768 dmandman  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:34:57pm

re: #737 doriangrey

I think a lot of WW2 propaganda still lingers that every enemy soldier was a homicidal lunatic. Yamamoto himself was well respected by the US Navy and other services as he had toured as a more junior officer the US by hitch hiking from DC to Frisco. He was reputed to be a deadly card player and financed almost all of trips by playing other military people in "friendly" games. He saw first hand the military and economic potential of the US, where a lot of his superiors were lulled by European lies of US potential.

As far as atrocity percentages, no one beats the Red Army on it's advance through Eastern Europe. The soldiers while on the defensive were required by their political officers to maintain "revenge" diaries which were routinely reviewed and any entries that tended to be considered "mild" were remarked on giving a signal that whatever they did had to horrible and it would be noted if not followed through.

769 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:35:09pm

re: #765 3 wood

Jesse Jackson Jr. taking some heat.

Protesters call for Jackson Jr. resignation

Careful not to get him too angry...he might get the urge to cut off someone's...okay, never mind.

770 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:35:50pm

re: #761 stuiec

It just occurred to me: it might be interesting to plaster Priuses with "PEACH MELBA" bumper stickers (rather than "IMPEACH OBAMA" ones). It would certainly confuse the hell out of them.

Or maybe diffraction ones that say "IMPEACH OBAMA" from an angle but "PEACH MELBA" when viewed straight on. That'd be trippy.

roflmao.
that's as good as "vote the hero not the zero"
if some one gets huffy you can always say "well, why do you assume that obama is the zero?"
here we could just say, "excuse me, i'm a chef, what's your problem?"

771 3 wood  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:35:56pm

Gov. spends day at lawyer's office

Embattled Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich is searching for an A-level criminal defense attorney, but apparently he hasn't pulled the trigger just yet.

Blagojevich spent part of today visiting with attorney Edward Genson at his Loop office.

Reached by phone late this afternoon, Genson said that he has "not yet" been retained by Gov. Blagojevich.
"Still consulting," said Genson, whose high-profile clients include singer R. Kelly.

772 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:36:14pm

re: #762 doriangrey

I hate to say this about a fellow Lizard, but geepers appears to be a hateful person incapable of grasping the most simple and basic of truths.

He/she is logged in, and we're still waiting for a response...

773 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:36:26pm

re: #760 jcm

i have to up ding that one

774 swamprat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:37:06pm

re: #767 The Other Les

How did Michael Moore come to learn of this?

775 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:37:43pm

re: #753 gmsc

BREAKING: Sarah Palin's church damaged in suspicious fire

Creationist church? Charles?
/White smoke
/Black smoke
/All available smoke

776 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:37:47pm

re: #774 swamprat

How did Michael Moore come to learn of this?

Michael Moore knows everything. Duh!

/

777 The Other Les  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:38:02pm

re: #774 swamprat

How did Michael Moore come to learn of this?

Damned if I know.

778 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:38:36pm

re: #775 Rancher

Creationist church? Charles?
/White smoke
/Black smoke
/All available smoke

I don't think that's funny at all.

779 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:38:39pm

doriangrey says:

Put the crack pipe down geepers,

A fine defense of your position.

780 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:38:41pm

re: #774 swamprat

How did Michael Moore come to learn of this?

ROTFLMAO.... First thing that came to my mind as well.....

781 itellu3times  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:38:51pm

re: #755 Bobibutu

A lovely story.

Is it true?

782 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:39:49pm

re: #778 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't think that's funny at all.

The smoke isn't in reference to the church, the smoke is in reference to a code we use here at LGF.

783 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:39:56pm

re: #762 doriangrey

I hate to say this about a fellow Lizard, but geepers appears to be a hateful person incapable of grasping the most simple and basic of truths.

the basic truth is german and japan were evil empires you are the one who refuses to grasp reality.

and as long as the germans and japanese were winning the people supported the genocidal bastards even the german military leaders who tried to over throw snicklegruber only decided to do it because they saw that german would lose everything.

784 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:39:59pm

re: #779 Geepers

doriangrey says:

A fine defense of your position.

Actually a fine definition of your position.

785 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:40:29pm

re: #779 Geepers

doriangrey says:

A fine defense of your position.

Is sarcasm a foreign language to you?

786 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:40:37pm

re: #766 jcm

To many to name or remember. Bong, Boyington, Yeager, Jabara, McConnell, Olds, Ritchie, DeBellevue.

yup...those guys

787 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:40:39pm

re: #782 gmsc

The smoke isn't in reference to the church, the smoke is in reference to a code we use here at LGF.

Please explain.

788 dmandman  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:41:23pm

re: #786 albusteve

Didn't Boyington invent Napalm?

789 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:42:00pm

re: #779 Geepers

doriangrey says:

A fine defense of your position.

maybe to doriangrey a little fascism is ok?
THE AXIS POWERS WERE EVIL DOWN TO THE LAST DROP OF BLOOD.

790 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:42:22pm

re: #775 Rancher

Creationist church? Charles?
/White smoke
/Black smoke
/All available smoke

You just know that if this were, say, the Rev. Wright's church, it would instantly knock the Caylee Anothony stuff off, and we'd get round the clock coverage of it on the news channels.

And on the networks, your favorite shows would be interrupted with, "BREAKING NEWS! We have more on the Rev. Wright fire (as if the reverend himself were burning down)! One of the remaining timbers has just leaned 5 degrees, and is expected to tumble down any minute now! We'll keep you up on this important story as it develops!"

791 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:43:43pm

re: #789 yochanan

maybe to doriangrey a little fascism is ok?
THE AXIS POWERS WERE EVIL DOWN TO THE LAST DROP OF BLOOD.

This kind of libelous hyperbolic hate filled rhetoric is why I usually choose to ignore you yoch.

792 jcm  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:43:55pm

re: #788 dmandman

Didn't Boyington invent Napalm?

Nope.....
And Howard Zinn is an idiot.

793 swamprat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:44:25pm

re: #777 The Other Les

Damned if I know.

Was forced to watch "Springtime for Hitler"
"Springtime for Saddam"
Fahrenheit 911.
I will never get that time back.
My grandchildren are in that house.

794 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:44:45pm

I mean Charles posts a number of pieces against neo fascist groups in europe, and i strongly support him on that. If you are against neo fascist groups that don't have any blood on there hands THE HISTORICAL REVISIONISM DIRECTED AT REAL FASCISTS LIKE GERMAN AND JAPAN has to be opposed when ever it's evil head crawls out of the rat hole it lives in.

795 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:44:47pm

re: #787 goddessoftheclassroom

Please explain.

White Smoke---Covering/Screening only
Yellow Smoke---Designated target (Fire at will)
Purple Smoke---All after is sarcastic
Green Smoke---Kook Identifed
White Star Cluster---All Clear
Yellow Star Cluster---Cease-fire
Red Star Cluster---Danger


Some Examples:

Red says something smart and instead of "ducking," pops white smoke and disengages.

Anyone needing assistance might designate a post (or a thread in the subject line) with yellow smoke.

Prior to typing a sarcastic remark, "pop purple smoke." When removing tounge from cheek, send up a White Star Cluster.

Green star clusters would probaly be most effective for the person on SGT Casey's duty roster with an addition to a subject line.

Yellow star clusters used to designate a friendly under fire or to initiate compromise under a misunderstanding.

Red star custer, any kind of warning.

796 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:45:29pm

re: #791 doriangrey

dorian your post says it all.

797 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:46:08pm

re: #791 doriangrey

This kind of libelous hyperbolic hate filled rhetoric is why I usually choose to ignore you yoch.

Same here. Geepers claimed that another lizard was defending German and Japanese atrocities and excusing the Rape of Nanjing or the massacre at Babi Yar.

Which is simply NOT TRUE.

798 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:46:42pm

re: #795 gmsc

Thank you.

Too complicated for me, though.

799 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:46:47pm

re: #796 yochanan

dorian your post says it all.

Your post(s) says quite alot, too.

And, do tell, what exactly -does- Dorian's post say?

800 Bobibutu  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:46:52pm

re: #757 gclaghorn

LOL! That's pretty interesting.

You may find this revealing if you haven't served in the Navy. ;-)

[Link: www.sgaus.org...]

and

[Link: www.goatlocker.org...]

enjoy.

801 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:47:13pm

re: #798 goddessoftheclassroom

Thank you.

Too complicated for me, though.

You're welcome.

Do what I do - save it to your favorites and refer to it when needed.

802 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:47:38pm

re: #797 gclaghorn

Same here. Geepers claimed that another lizard was defending German and Japanese atrocities and excusing the Rape of Nanjing or the massacre at Babi Yar.

Which is simply NOT TRUE.

Once hate has poisoned a mind it's impossible to get through to that mind.

803 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:48:06pm

re: #800 Bobibutu

You may find this revealing if you haven't served in the Navy. ;-)

[Link: www.sgaus.org...]

and

[Link: www.goatlocker.org...]

enjoy.

Thanks! I'm putting it in my bookmarks.

804 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:48:22pm
805 Bobibutu  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:49:02pm

re: #781 itellu3times

A lovely story.

Is it true?

No it's BS.

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

806 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:50:18pm

saying there were good patiotic germans and japanese supporting evil is a kind of revisionism sort of like saying the that the rape of nanking and the nazi death camps were some kind of accident WHEN IN FACT THEY WERE THE KEY TO UNDERSTANDING BOTH THE JAPANESE AND GERMAN VERSIONS OF FASCISM

NAZISM was evil to it's last drop of blood. the fact that some germans did not want to go down with the sinking ship did not wash away the evil they did when the though it was going to win.

807 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:51:37pm

re: #806 yochanan

saying there were good patiotic germans and japanese supporting evil is a kind of revisionism sort of like saying the that the rape of nanking and the nazi death camps were some kind of accident

WHO IN THIS THREAD IS SAYING THAT?

808 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:52:13pm

re: #758 yochanan
Ever read Shogun?

809 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:52:23pm

re: #805 Bobibutu

No it's BS.

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

Damn! You got me. I was a little skeptical, though.

810 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:53:00pm
811 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:53:23pm

re: #807 gclaghorn

WHO IN THIS THREAD IS SAYING THAT?

I said that not all German or Japanese were evil. From that yoch and geepers derived that I supported German and Japanese atrocities. Hate has poisoned their minds beyond the capacity for rational thought.

812 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:53:44pm

re: #788 dmandman

Didn't Boyington invent Napalm?

dont know...I'm hardly an expert...good question and easy to look up...re: #789 yochanan

maybe to doriangrey a little fascism is ok?
THE AXIS POWERS WERE EVIL DOWN TO THE LAST DROP OF BLOOD.

personally I refuse to get drawn into this ageless debate...but I will say this...with regard to Japan a large percentage of wartime citizens were peasants...even in the manufacturing sector...the regime controlled the press and every other aspect of daily like...dissention was almost unheard of not from a moral standpoint but simply from the oppressive heirarchy...most of the populace was clueless to what went down in China and elsewhere...to hold them even partially responsible for war crimes under the circumstances is ludicrous...

813 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:53:57pm

re: #808 Rancher

yes and i have studied fuedal japan because of my interest in japanese art such as wood cuts, wanted to know that was behind them.

814 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:55:10pm

re: #778 goddessoftheclassroom
Sorry, I apologize, knew I shouldn't have.

815 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:55:14pm

re: #811 doriangrey

I said that not all German or Japanese were evil. From that yoch and geepers derived that I supported German and Japanese atrocities. Hate has poisoned their minds beyond the capacity for rational thought.

But you didn't say that "there were good patiotic germans and japanese supporting evil." He completely misconstrued your quote.

816 Rancher  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:55:35pm

re: #810 ploome hineni

Yep. :)

817 Bobibutu  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:56:26pm

re: #809 gclaghorn

Damn! You got me. I was a little skeptical, though.

Whoever authored it was pretty good at spinning a yarn.

The two links are trustworthy tho.

818 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:56:39pm

re: #815 gclaghorn

But you didn't say that "there were good patiotic germans and japanese supporting evil." He completely misconstrued your quote.

It's what happens when you embrace hatred, anything that challenges your view must be attacked.

819 Salem  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:56:53pm

re: #747 stuiec

If you enjoy schlock sci-fi movies, you really should see Plan 9 from Outer Space. It is the schlockiest of the schlock. Not to give away too much, but the flying saucer special effects are literally pie plates on strings -- and yes, you can see the strings.

Nope, they were commercially available models bought from a model shop near the studio space.

820 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:56:58pm

i got what he intended not the first time dorian has used the 'hate card' nor is it the first time on this subject. really not a suprise.

821 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:57:02pm

re: #817 Bobibutu

Whoever authored it was pretty good at spinning a yarn.

Or had way, way too much free time on their hands.

822 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:57:11pm

doriangrey (#737),

But anyone who thinks that all Germans or all Japanese were guilty of atrocities is a god damned fool. It wasn't even the majority of either nations soldiers that were guilty.

Your debating style leaves much to be desired.

And if you haven't noticed I pretty much don't respond to petty insults, but if it makes you feel like you're winning an argument, well ... see above.

823 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:58:39pm
824 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:59:23pm
825 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 4:59:41pm

ploome (#804),

hiya geeps

Hello fellow hater.

826 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:00:05pm

re: #822 Geepers

doriangrey (#737),

Your debating style leaves much to be desired.

And if you haven't noticed I pretty much don't respond to petty insults, but if it makes you feel like you're winning an argument, well ... see above.

I'm not debating you, I'm mocking you. The position you have taken does not deserve to be debated, only mocked for the arrogant hateful crap that it is.

827 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:01:44pm
828 gmsc  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:02:21pm

re: #805 Bobibutu

No it's BS.

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

Snopes? Couldn't find a reliable source that debunks it, so you went to snopes instead?

829 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:02:47pm
830 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:03:05pm

re: #799 gclaghorn

Your post(s) says quite alot, too.

And, do tell, what exactly -does- Dorian's post say?

Still waiting for a response...and I know you've read the comment, because you downdinged it.

831 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:03:41pm

doriangrey says:

It's what happens when you embrace hatred, anything that challenges your view must be attacked.

The irony abounds.

832 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:03:42pm
833 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:04:27pm

re: #827 ploome hineni

doriangrey (#737),

regarding:

after 4 years of war initiated by Germany and Japan, the guilt or innocence of individuals, is moot -irrelevant

both Germany and Japan had to be stopped

total war...what a hideous concept eh?

834 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:05:14pm

re: #827 ploome hineni

doriangrey (#737),

regarding:

after 4 years of war initiated by Germany and Japan, the guilt or innocence of individuals, is moot -irrelevant

both Germany and Japan had to be stopped

I never ever suggested anything other than that. They not only needed to be stopped, but they also needed to be held accountable for the atrocities they committed. But to blanket accuse all German or Japanese of those atrocities is utterly unacceptable. Hold the guilty accountable, not the innocent.

835 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:05:32pm
836 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:05:57pm

the whole point of the nazi state was the holocoust IT WASN'T AN ACCIDENT OR A ISOLATED WAR CRIME.

AND THAT IS WERE THE SO CALLED PATRIOTIC GERMANS RUBS ME THE WRONG WAY. and this isn't the first time dorian really has showed his true colors.

837 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:06:40pm

re: #831 Geepers

doriangrey says:

The irony abounds.

Traffic runs both ways on that street.

838 stevieray  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:06:50pm

re: #731 Killgore Trout

This are getting serious in Greece...
Greek students occupy tv station to make broadcast about riots
Anyone speak Greek here?

Greece is in for a world of trouble.

They have a long history of violence by radical elements -- hard left and anarchists -- but there is more to this current outbreak than just the usual suspects.

Greece is on the leading edge of Europe's decline. Their population has been declining sharper and longer than the average European country, their government is bloated and ineffective, their schools are among Europe's worst, and their economy has been weak even in the best of times.

The radical kids have been joined by many average kids, kids who don't necessarily agree with the goals of the radicals, but don't know where else to turn. They know things are going wrong in Greece -- very wrong, but they don't know (or won't accept) the reasons why... and are lashing out in fear and anger.

839 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:07:02pm
840 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:07:19pm

ploome (#829),

but I look marvellous darling....see my pretty mirror

But of course. And the pleasure was all mine.

841 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:07:25pm

this isn't the first time someone has gone to the well of revisionism.

842 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:08:13pm
843 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:08:18pm

re: #835 ploome hineni

well, we did not have Nobama to guide us

HA!...we will learn now I suppose...what took so long?...Grey's or Liptons?

844 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:08:57pm
845 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:09:23pm

re: #839 ploome hineni

silence means consent

and anyone contributig to the war effort was helping to kill the Allies

you want to examine EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL

go for it

No... Silence does not mean consent. In a repressive violent fascists regime silence simple means fear.

846 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:10:43pm

re: #834 doriangrey

I never ever suggested anything other than that. They not only needed to be stopped, but they also needed to be held accountable for the atrocities they committed. But to blanket accuse all German or Japanese of those atrocities is utterly unacceptable. Hold the guilty accountable, not the innocent.

the fact is very few germans were ever punished THE S.S. was a mass org. and every member was guilty of what it did. If you were a member of the S.S. you were guilty of what it did.

847 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:11:20pm

re: #839 ploome hineni

silence means consent

and anyone contributig to the war effort was helping to kill the Allies

you want to examine EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL

go for it

But you can't assume that. Just because I may never say anything about Keith Olbermann doesn't mean I consent to his views.

Silence means fear, in some cases, too (and I'm not saying I fear Olbermann).

848 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:12:11pm
849 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:12:34pm

re: #846 yochanan

the fact is very few germans were ever punished THE S.S. was a mass org. and every member was guilty of what it did. If you were a member of the S.S. you were guilty of what it did.

There you go again! Who ever mentioned the SS?

850 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:12:54pm

re: #848 ploome hineni

sometimes, it is a 'Sophies Choice'..neither is good, either is devastating

even he who is silent makes a choice

/they feed the crocodile thinking they will be the last eaten.........or go free

So because they are silent, you know what their choice was?

851 HoosierHoops  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:13:22pm

re: #801 gmsc

You're welcome.

Do what I do - save it to your favorites and refer to it when needed.

I always wondered about the smoke thingie...I just always thought we kept electing Popes..but i wasn't gonna say anything.

852 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:13:38pm
853 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:14:01pm

re: #848 ploome hineni

sometimes, it is a 'Sophies Choice'..neither is good, either is devastating

even he who is silent makes a choice

/they feed the crocodile thinking they will be the last eaten.........or go free

Easy enough to say when your family or friends or neighbors aren't the ones being dragged out in the street at midnight and shot and left there in the street for everyone to see.

854 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:14:03pm

re: #852 ploome hineni

oh shut up!

I will when you do.

855 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:14:17pm
856 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:14:49pm

re: #855 ploome hineni

find a clue, or a brain

And you and Geepers don't like our comebacks?

857 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:15:05pm

re: #852 ploome hineni

oh shut up!

Yup, facts and logic have no place in any discussion of hate filled rhetoric.

858 Bobibutu  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:16:22pm

re: #828 gmsc

Snopes? Couldn't find a reliable source that debunks it, so you went to snopes instead?

Do you have a preferred resource?

859 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:17:02pm
860 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:17:39pm

re: #859 ploome hineni

who do you mean was being dragged out?

Are you freakin' kidding me?

861 swamprat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:17:57pm

I know you are, but what am I?
Sez you!
Your Mama!
He pushed me first!
She's touching me!
He's staring!

862 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:20:55pm

re: #859 ploome hineni

who do you mean was being dragged out?

MY WIFE'S FAMILY WAS BUTCHERED IN SNICKLEGRUBER'S EUROPE.

863 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:22:10pm

re: #862 yochanan

MY WIFE'S FAMILY WAS BUTCHERED IN SNICKLEGRUBER'S EUROPE.

If silence equals consent then her family must have consented because they sure as hell didn't fight back.

864 nyc redneck  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:22:37pm

re: #848 ploome hineni

sometimes, it is a 'Sophies Choice'..neither is good, either is devastating

even he who is silent makes a choice

/they feed the crocodile thinking they will be the last eaten.........or go free

i hated that scene in sophie's choice, she was crying 'ich kann nicht wahlen' and the harsh cruel pos chose 'for her'. in that, she did make a choice.

865 swamprat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:23:03pm

re: #863 doriangrey

You rotten little.........

866 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:23:19pm
867 Geepers  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:23:34pm

gclaghorn (#837),

I've yet to attack doriangrey.

The atrocities committed by the Japanese and Germans during the Second World War were extensive, pervasive and horrific. To not accede them to priority seems glib to me.

868 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:23:46pm

re: #863 doriangrey

GO F... YOUR SELF YOU ......... YOU REALLY ARE A BIGOT

869 doriangrey  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:23:47pm

re: #865 swamprat

You rotten little.........

ROTFLMAO... So yoch and geepers keep telling me...

870 gclaghorn  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:24:50pm

re: #867 Geepers

gclaghorn (#837),

I've yet to attack doriangrey.

The atrocities committed by the Japanese and Germans during the Second World War were extensive, pervasive and horrific. To not accede them to priority seems glib to me.

I never said you attacked Doriangrey.

871 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:24:56pm

I AM FOR ONCE YELLING

872 stuiec  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:25:28pm

re: #819 Salem

Nope, they were commercially available models bought from a model shop near the studio space.

Wow. 'Cause they really looked crappy. And you really can see the strings.

873 swamprat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:25:34pm

re: #863 doriangrey

I just lost any and all respect for you. That was beyond any necessity. I hope someone else is using your account. And alcohol is not acceptable as an excuse.

874 albusteve  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:26:11pm

re: #867 Geepers

gclaghorn (#837),

I've yet to attack doriangrey.

The atrocities committed by the Japanese and Germans during the Second World War were extensive, pervasive and horrific. To not accede them to priority seems glib to me.

but who exactly is to blame?...individuals?...entire societies?...it's a difficult debate...I take no side...it's above my pay grade...

875 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:26:25pm

message to the so called good and patiotic germans and japanese .... ...

876 swamprat  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:27:33pm

re: #869 doriangrey
well it appears to be true. bye.

877 yochanan  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:27:39pm

re: #873 swamprat

I just lost any and all respect for you. That was beyond any necessity. I hope someone else is using your account. And alcohol is not acceptable as an excuse.

push him and the real truth comes out.

878 reine.de.tout  Sat, Dec 13, 2008 5:29:04pm