Cool!

And its a shame bloggers had to reveal it in the first place.

Peer is spelled with two 'e's, Charles.

*ducks*

*runs*

Who has this kind of time?

WOOT

Charles and LGF rocks!

Does this mean a raise on our zionist checks?

Professor Charles has office hours from 10:15am - 10:17am.

Kewl! It must be nice to get some recognition!

re: #1 jamgarr

Cool!

Way cool!

Congratulations, Charles.

A contributing cause of this scandal is the MSM's desire to vilify Israel. If they were actually objective, they would have taken the time to review the photos.

re: #2 Buster Bunny

And its a shame bloggers had to reveal it in the first place.

ring-a-ding-ding

But then, I wonder how this ranks with the Dan Rather memo (I guess I should read the report).

re: #11 Orangutan

ring-a-ding-ding

But then, I wonder how this ranks with the Dan Rather memo (I guess I should read the report).

I just looked at the pictures.

/

re: #5 jcm

WOOT

Charles and LGF rocks!

Does this mean a raise on our zionist checks?

Ummm, about those checks...

What happened to the Mainstream Media? Are they that corrupt that they cant report anything RESEMBLING truth?

A moment of recognition and sanity. Kudos to ya Charles.

A Concise History of the Fauxtography Blogstorm in the 2006 Lebanon War

Glad I bookmarked this one.

I'll put it in the spinoffs.

Finding the Faux
Is an admirable job
But to claim the first prize
You must make it throb

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

A contributing cause of this scandal is the MSM's desire to vilify Israel. If they were actually objective, they would have taken the time to review the photos.

Absolutely. That's the issue underneath the faked photo that the media didn't want to touch.

Off to watch SNL. BBL.

This was supposed to be on the open thread, which got closed:

re: #872 stuiec

Wow. 'Cause they really looked crappy. And you really can see the strings.

Here's the original model, repackaged a number of years back as the " PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE PROMO FLYING SAUCER KIT"

Wow congrats!

re: #17 Charles

Absolutely. That's the issue underneath the faked photo that the media didn't want to touch.

Keep on them, Charles. You and Zombie have made it harder for frauds to get away with it.

re: #18 gclaghorn

Off to watch SNL. BBL.

There used to be a comedy show by that name, but there isn't anymore.

re: #19 Salem

This was supposed to be on the open thread, which got closed:

Here's the original model, repackaged a number of years back as the " PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE PROMO FLYING SAUCER KIT"

Buy some paper plates and spray paint them; cheaper and they might actually look better.

Fantastic! Congrats, Charles.

re: #22 gmsc

There used to be a comedy show by that name, but there isn't anymore.

Tina Fey. Comedienne. Lifetime Parody Award. Whatever.

Thanks and kudos to Charles for detecting and exposing MSM frauds!

“OK, now things are getting weird. This Reuters photograph shows blatant evidence of manipulation. Notice the repeating patterns in the smoke; this is almost certainly caused by using the Photoshop ‘clone’ tool to add more smoke to the image.” —
Charles Johnson,

I remember that thread.

Isn't that the one where Cognito and Sharmuta went after each other all afternoon?

Congratulations Charles.

Pedantry is appropriate here. It says "the scandal provides an important site to analyze the ability of blogs" meaning the scandal is treated as a experimental condition that can be subjected to such analytical tools as social science offers. Personally I find such phrasing as stilted and confusing or even pretentious and easily susceptible to sliding into jargon. Better to have said "provides an opportunity" etc.

re: #17 Charles

Absolutely. That's the issue underneath the faked photo that the media didn't want to touch.

Charles, I'm just wondering how you can be sure it's not laziness or incompetence. I'm no expert, and I never would have noticed it.

re: #25 Buster Bunny

Tina Fey. Comedienne. Lifetime Parody Award. Whatever.

That is a good point. Whatever else Sarah Palin has done, she gave Saturday Night Live an angle that it used to get back into the spotlight.

re: #27 Noam Sayin'

Nope.

Cogs didn't arrive until later, I think.

Great to see your hard work being recognized.

Thanks for this forum Charles!

It's about time!

I'd congratulate you, Charles, but those kudos were earned a while ago.

Congratulations to those who are now just figuring it out.

re: #27 Noam Sayin'

I remember that thread.

Isn't that the another one where Cognito and Sharmuta went after each other all afternoon?

Hadda fix that.

What if they attempt to regulate the Internet under the Fairness Doctrine? Have you considered it Charles?

re: #23 Kosh's Shadow

Buy some paper plates and spray paint them; cheaper and they might actually look better.

The popular assumption is that the flying saucers in the movie were just pie plates. But they were actually cheap models from a local model shop which were reproduced to promote the "Flying Saucers Over Hollywood" Plan 9 documentary. That's what's on the ebay page, but it's an exact replica of the ones Ed Wood used.

IIRC, Charles. It was somebody from Janesville, WI who sent you the image to look over. Is that correct? I seem to remember that from a radio interview you did several days later.

re: #29 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Charles, I'm just wondering how you can be sure it's not laziness or incompetence. I'm no expert, and I never would have noticed it.

BTW, I mean by the editors who review the pic before posting them, not the ones manipulating the fraud.

Congrats!

re: #34 Clemente

I had to chuckle, and up-ding that one.

But I could be considered just as guilty on some occasions.

good job Charles :thumbsup: :)

I agree, very cool. It didn't seem derisive or biased, either.

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

Professor Charles has office hours from 10:15am - 10:17am.

Sounds like most of my profs...

re: #19 Salem

This was supposed to be on the open thread, which got closed:

Here's the original model, repackaged a number of years back as the " PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE PROMO FLYING SAUCER KIT"

Late to thank you, but thank you!

re: #25 Buster Bunny

Tina Fey. Comedienne. Lifetime Parody Award. Whatever.

Lifetime Parody Award?!? What the heck is that? It sounds like one of those made-up awards they used to hand out on MTV to whoever their favorite politically-correct person of the moment.

Besides, she's part of the SNL "F" curse: Whenever they hire someone whose last name begins the letter "F", they will invariably be the least funny person on the show.

The AFP gets a lesson in terrorist BS

/a classic

Wait! But...but...but... This can't be! Peer review is always biased in favor of anti-theist left wing moonbats!

/

re: #27 Noam Sayin'

mind bleach

re: #5 jcm

WOOT

Charles and LGF rocks!

Does this mean a raise on our zionist checks?

To heck with a check, I want extra fruit cup in the morning, and a lap robe, it's freezing in here...:) Kudos Charlies!

re: #49 Dustyvet

To heck with a check, I want extra fruit cup in the morning, and a lap robe, it's freezing in here...:) Kudos Charlies!

I know this may be a radical and novel idea ,, but ,,, ummm,,, turn up the heat !

re: #44 stuiec

Late to thank you, but thank you!

Hey, no prob, trust me. I'm a Plan 9 geek.

re: #17 Charles

Absolutely. That's the issue underneath the faked photo that the media didn't want to touch.

Directly related to the issue of how the media willingly allows itself to be used as a propaganda outlet for all sorts of causes that its editors and reporters deem worthy. And I don't mean charitable causes like the March of Dimes.

re: #45 gmsc

Are you saying Al Franken wasn't/isn't funny? TAKE THAT BACK, DAMN YOU!

///

This makes one damn proud to be a LGF Lizard!

re: #50 sattv4u2

I know this may be a radical and novel idea ,, but ,,, ummm,,, turn up the heat !

Hey it's a senior citizen thing...:)

But how come it takes them over 4 years to finally realize it? It's not like it just happened this election cycle.

re: #27 Noam Sayin'

I remember that thread.

Isn't that the one where Cognito and Sharmuta went after each other all afternoon?

NO.

That was the iranian fauxtography.

re: #56 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

But how come it takes them over 4 years to finally realize it? It's not like it just happened this election cycle.

SLOW LEARNERS?

Outstanding, Charles.
You deserve far more recognition!

re: #58 Dustyvet

SLOW LEARNERS?

or a senior citizen thing!

re: #17 Charles

Mazel tov, Charles, and a very big thank you.

May you go from strength to strength.

re: #35 lifeofthemind

What if they attempt to regulate the Internet under the Fairness Doctrine? Have you considered it Charles?

Well, for starters, they'll need another fig leaf. Kinda hard to stretch the 'limited bandwidth argument', unless you're talking Comcast's executive suite...

And congratulations, Charles.

re: #54 Dustyvet

This makes one damn proud to be a LGF Lizard!

It was fun to watch that thread unfold. I had stuff to do that day, but stayed online pretty much all day to see it.

re: #60 sattv4u2

or a senior citizen thing!

both, hey have you seen my car keys? Better question is have you seen my car?

re: #57 Sharmuta

NO.

That was the iranian fauxtography.

Ah, yes. I remember it well.

re: #56 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

But how come it takes them over 4 years to finally realize it? It's not like it just happened this election cycle.

BTW, did you hear about the new Chinese bike sponsored by Viagra? It's called the election cycle.

re: #61 NY Nana

hello ny nana
nice to see you
a good week

re: #66 Noam Sayin'

Ah, yes. I remember it well.

Or not, since you keep confusing it. ;)

re: #59 Haverwilde

Outstanding, Charles.
You deserve far more recognition!

At least he's finally getting a small fraction of the recognition he so richly deserves...egregiously belated though it may be.

re: #65 Dustyvet

both, hey have you seen my car keys? Better question is have you seen my car WALKER?

fixed

The criteria of a public being potentially open to all offers some vague guidance for analyzing LGF. Certainly, anyone on the Web can read LGF. But not everyone is an equal contributor. If openness is defined by equality in participation and deliberation, LGF is not a public. In fact, it may fail the most important test of publicity — deliberation on LGF is controlled and managed by a single individual who wields the power to promote comments and to delete them. Johnson is the single author of the main blog posts on the site, which means that it is primarily his work that puts him as one of the top 100 blogs online. Certainly anyone can contribute by way of comments, but the comments are hidden from view. Similarly, tips and other contributions must be sent to Johnson before they are written about on the main posts. As a result, not everyone who comes to this blog has equal opportunities for deliberation.

Nikki Usher is a doctoral student at the University of Southern California’s Annenberg School for Communication whose focus is on journalism studies and new media.

Ms. Usher, I need to point this important fact out to you. Without the work that Mr. Johnson has done in webmastering LGF, and his keen artistic ability to recognize photo manipulation, and then to search for it's original and faux photo validation, as well as have NUMEROUS other independent blog sites also participate in their opinions, you would not have had an optimum model to conduct such a well grounded "STUDY".
Kudos Charles for the integrity of this site regarding it's controls and it's high level of contribution allowed. It is what makes LGF worlds above the rest in the blogosphere. Good grounded study.

re: #68 yochanan

hello ny nana
nice to see you
a good week

Same to you, Yochanan.

re: #71 sattv4u2

fixed

Thweeepth! :p

MSM
RENSE
REPEAT

re: #29 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Charles, I'm just wondering how you can be sure it's not laziness or incompetence. I'm no expert, and I never would have noticed it.

Because if it was laziness, you'd see a ramp of ideology instead of a monolithic block. You'd see a ramp or errors affecting everyone and everything, not just one side. You'd see some genuine shock and dismay from the competent ones. You'd see genuine attempts to reach out to the HALF of America they can't seem to reach.

LGF is the best blog on the web with registered commenting membership, and Instapundit is the best blog on the web without it.

Congratulations Charles - of course YOU earned those congratulations and I remember very clearly thinking, back during Rathergate, that if the MSM wasn't SO biased against blogs in particular and "conservative" blogs in particular, you would have received the same kudos, only more so.

Dan Rather and Mary Mapes (and CBS) were literally LYING in order to try to throw a Presidential Election to one of THEIR candidates. We all seem to have forgotten this in the nearly unbelievable avalanche of MSM support of Obama, but it didn't start with Obama, and probably didn't start with Kerry/Bush. But your exposure of that particular fraud by the MSM was, IMO, the tipping point - where blogs "suddenly" had to be taken into account by the MSM.
Congrat's Charles, both for the Fauxtography scandal Rathergate and making the MSM sit up and take notice that they can't pull the wool over all of the publics eyes anymore.

# Re-released hits for baby boomers:

* “You’re So Varicose Vein” by Carly Simon
* “How Can You Mend A Broken Hip?” by the BeeGees
* “The First Time Ever I Forgot Your Face” by Roberta Flack
* “I Can’t See Clearly Now” by Johnny Nash
* “Papa Got A Kidney Stone” by the Temptations
* “These Boots Give Me Arthritis” by Nancy Sinatra
* “You Make Me Feel Like Napping” by Leo Sayer
* “Once, Twice, Three Trips to the Bathroom” by the Commodores
* “A Whiter Shade of Hair” by Procol Harum
* “I Get By with a Little Help from Depends” by the Beatles
* “Rikki, Don’t Lose Your Car Keys” by Steely Dan
* “Mrs. Brown, You’ve Got a Lovely Walker” by Herman's Hermits
* “Talkin’ ‘Bout My Medication” by the Who
* “Bald Thing” by the Troggs
* “You Can’t Always Pee When You Want” by the Rolling Stones
* “I Heard It through the Grape Nuts” by Marvin Gaye
* And last, but definitely not least, “Bad Prune Rising” by Credence Clearwater Revivial (our personal favorite)

I'm still waiting for a peer-reviewed study that begins with " BWAHAHAHA ".

I love this part:

Reuters showed both the doctored and undoctored photos Hajj took of Beirut, noting that an urgent investigation had prompted such action. Hajj, to his defense, admitted to doctoring the photos to remove dust flecks (Reuters, 2006).

Dust flecks!

Oh, sure, doctoring the photos to add some made-up propaganda effects but not before removing "dust flecks" and send the photos to Reuters!

re: #69 Sharmuta

Or not, since you keep confusing it. ;)

Keep confusing it? Have I expressed this before?

In any case, I already corrected myself.

Charles original post on that doesn't have many pluses, and it deserves a lot. Take a sec to hit the first link in the story and plus it up.

Charles, congratulations.

re: #17 Charles

And Honest Reporting recognized what you had accomplished im 2006!

re: #54 Dustyvet

This makes one damn proud to be a LGF Lizard!

I second that emotion! Congrats Charles. Well done.

Awesome! Why do I have the feeling MSNBC won't cover this?

I feel so Peer Reviewed now.

Any guesses on if Blago or the rest of the Usual Gang of Idiots gets Peer Reviewed?

re: #83 Thanos

The +'s and -'s weren't set up then. That must be why.

re: #87 lifeofthemind

I feel so Peer Reviewed now.

Any guesses on if Blago or the rest of the Usual Gang of Idiots gets Peer Reviewed?

Oh, he'll get peer reviewed all right...

re: #83 Thanos

Charles original post on that doesn't have many pluses, and it deserves a lot. Take a sec to hit the first link in the story and plus it up.

Charles, congratulations.

Thanks- I went back and dinged it.

A really interesting paper, from what I've read so far. I'm glad she's given it some real thought. And glad to see LGF credited.

The one question I haven't seen addressed, just yet, is whether the new media model will actually be able to supplant the old one. That's critical, in my view. We gotta have a strong press, whatever the delivery system.

re: #79 Dustyvet

"(Talkin' 'Bout) My Medication" by The Who

Drive by, good night post...

The Chinese would execute Bernard Madoff. I'm kind of on their side here.

re: #83 Thanos IIRC, we didn't have the ratings system set up back then, or it was very new - but thanks for the suggestion and I took it to hear and did upding it!

re: #93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Drive by, good night post...

The Chinese would execute Bernard Madoff. I'm kind of on their side here.

And send his family a bill for the bullet. They're not nice.

Just because

Dedicated to all those out there doing things that are not quite safe.

re: #83 Thanos

So easy to forget, yet, so wrong to forget.

Thanks for the reminder.

married off my last son this week
empty nester now

re: #98 yochanan
Mazel Tov yochanan - sorry about the empty nester situation, but it does have it's benefits - wait and see!

Before I go to bed...was going to see an Irish Band tonight... hour and a half wait for a table (yay), went to friends house, had a great time there.

So...pffft hour and a half wait!

G'night John-Boy!

re: #98 yochanan

Mazel tov!

re: #76 PSGInfinity

I'm talking specifically about the photos that were manipilated. A lot of what passes for journalism is sloppy journalism due to editors not checking sources, and accepting at face value what they read. Jason Blair, formerly of the NYT being a perfect example.

Once it was discovered he had made up a lot of what he wrote and his editors attempted to cover that up after finding out the truth, that's unacceptable.

I'm not aware of anyone proving that these pics were posted knowing they were photoshopped.

But until I see proof that these pictures were published knowing they had been doctored, I'll give whoever posted them the benefit of the doubt as long as they unequivocally say they will not use the source of the pics in the future.

re: #100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Before I go to bed...was going to see an Irish Band tonight... hour and a half wait for a table (yay), went to friends house, had a great time there.

So...pffft hour and a half wait!

G'night John-Boy!

Goodnight, FBV!

re: #102 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Once it was discovered he had made up a lot of what he wrote and his editors attempted to cover that up after finding out the truth, that's unacceptable.

When did this happen?

re: #99 realwest

we thought the newly weds whould have to live with us till they found an apt, but my son's wife is alergic to the cat.
we do have 2 grand daughters and have 3rd grand child on the way rummer has it is a boy

You can go up to the left sidebar and access all of LGF's Hits. They all deserve big ding ups.

re: #88 HelloDare

The +'s and -'s weren't set up then. That must be why.

Yes, that's why it should be plussed up now.

This part of the paper is interesting:

Does LGF fulfill some of the promises set out by theorists who promise that the Web offers new potentials for discourse and new opportunities for openness? Does LGF showcase the qualities of the networked public that supposedly will enable new challenges to power from the edges back to the center?

To review, a public has (but is not limited to) the following qualities: it is a group that shares a worldview or an audience; it is potentially open to all; it is relevant to the public interest; it is accessible by all; and, it can publicize its content. Further, publics online (networked publics) leave a lasting trail of documentation; people can find like people; discourse gets repeated and replicated; and, invisible audiences compose its members.

I liked this article better.

re: #108 radford

I liked this article better.

It is short and sweet...
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re: #102 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm talking specifically about the photos that were manipilated. A lot of what passes for journalism is sloppy journalism due to editors not checking sources, and accepting at face value what they read. Jason Blair, formerly of the NYT being a perfect example.

Once it was discovered he had made up a lot of what he wrote and his editors attempted to cover that up after finding out the truth, that's unacceptable.

I'm not aware of anyone proving that these pics were posted knowing they were photoshopped.

But until I see proof that these pictures were published knowing they had been doctored, I'll give whoever posted them the benefit of the doubt as long as they unequivocally say they will not use the source of the pics in the future.

You want to buy a 2009 caddy? Only $500 bucks. No title, but it has a tag.

same deal
they believe because they want to
Its not hot. My brother is selling it because he needs an operation.

re: #104 Cognito

When did this happen?

Isn't much of that covered in his self-confessional book? iirc correctly he mentions toe-touch reporting, false reporting, etc.

Cog never heard of Blair

no comment

re: #105 yochanan
Two grandchildren and another on the way - then again MAZEL TOV !
You must be - and should be - so proud!

This is interesting subject. A good example is what happened up here last week. Demonstrations across Canada against a coalition government. Anyone that went was invited to take pictures and share their experiences. Thousands of Canadians did. The best part was the discussions about the MSM news after wards. A lot of coverage was given to pro-coalition protests, while little was given to the anti-coalition protests. A lot of people are sitting up and taking notice.

re: #92 solomonpanting

Talkin' about my generation? ;)

Here's his book at his site

[Link: www.jayson-blair.com...]

Interesting report. Looks like she touched all the bases.

So you're "quirky," Charles?

:)

These citizen journalists are imagined as a challenge to “big media” because they seek to provide information that is more accurate and more accountable than information provided by the mass media.

The mass media needs desperately to seek the advice of moral dentistry for a severe case of truth decay.

re: #116 Thanos

Here's his book at his site

[Link: www.jayson-blair.com...]

How did you do that?

re: #28 lifeofthemind

I notice those kinds of wordings in studies as well. This is HER study and thus reflects her perspective of LGF. It does indeed invite LGF to be used as a valid journalistic source to build future blog and journalistic studies, as well as social studies in internet structures that are similar to LGF.
The irony I find here, is that the Bar to LGF in terms of quality, and webmaster
journalistic integrity is going to be a standard that is hard to equal or compare.
LGF is unique, comprehensive, conservative, and will be proven in the course of blogosphere history to be the top of the bell curve.
It's quite exciting... Charles has got to be grinning ear to ear!
It's His proud baby!

Oops

[Link: acjournal.org...]

Maybe I'm no good a creating a link. Try cut and paste.

re: #119 Sharmuta

How did you do that?

Do what?

Charles I know I got off on the wrong foot with the ID stuff, but this article is one of the reasons it took me several years to get here, I recognize the worth of your endevour. As we used to say in the Navy for a Job well done...BRAVO ZULU SIR!

re: #102 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm talking specifically about the photos that were manip[u]lated. A lot of what passes for journalism is sloppy journalism due to editors not checking sources, and accepting at face value what they read. [SNIP] Once it was discovered he had made up a lot of what he wrote and his editors attempted to cover that up after finding out the truth, that's unacceptable.

Aye, there's the rub. They're selectively lazy, selectively vigorous in defense of the wrong...

[SNIP] But until I see proof that these pictures were published knowing they had been doctored, I'll give whoever posted them the benefit of the doubt as long as they unequivocally say they will not use the source of the pics in the future.

That, my compatriot, is what they're counting on...

re: #122 Thanos

Find information about Blair so quickly?

re: #111 Thanos

Isn't much of that covered in his self-confessional book? iirc correctly he mentions toe-touch reporting, false reporting, etc.

Ha -- the answer is "because Jayson Blair said so"?

Come on, man. The Times engaged in the most horrific sort of self-flagellation. They led the story themselves.

re: #104 Cognito

When did this happen?

Did you read Grey Lady down? About how the NYT refused to look into Jason Blair's writing?

re: #117 Steffan

Interesting report. Looks like she touched all the bases.

So you're "quirky," Charles?

:)

I'll take "quirky."

re: #102 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Basically very lazy photo editors with an anti-Israel bias. They had been using his staged photos for years before they got caught with this.

They claimed that he was fired. It wouldn't greatly surprise me if he was working for them again under a nom de guerre.

re: #127 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Did you read Grey Lady down? About how the NYT refused to look into Jason Blair's writing?

Oh, no doubt they let him skid right along when they should have been paying attention. It had to do with internal political problems centered, largely, on a blind sort of affirmative action. Stupid.

But no, they never tried to cover up his misdeeds, ever.

re: #126 Cognito

Ha -- the answer is "because Jayson Blair said so"?

Come on, man. The Times engaged in the most horrific sort of self-flagellation. They led the story themselves.

Only when they were caught they did!

re: #125 Sharmuta

Find information about Blair so quickly?

I think I wrote about the incident a while back, once I write about something I don't forget it.

Here's the original post I wrote, maybe it's related to Charles...

You take the Super Bowl tickets, see.
And you go into the hotel bar and raffle them off, see.
And you use the money to buy drugs and booze, which you take up to your room, where you can watch the game on TV, or even the radio, or hell just wing it. The next day you write your story and collect your commission, so you can buy more drugs and booze.
...Gonzo Journalism

/ ...Hunter, we truly miss you :-(

re: #115 NY Nana

Talkin' about my generation? ;)

Friggin' hilarious!
Hope I die before I get old

re: #126 Cognito

He's got a project for bipolar people now, check it out.

quirky is cool. my office calls me worst at 8am on a monday morning

re: #130 Cognito

Oh, no doubt they let him skid right along when they should have been paying attention. It had to do with internal political problems centered, largely, on a blind sort of affirmative action. Stupid.

But no, they never tried to cover up his misdeeds, ever.

Oh, okay, sight your proof of that, genius.

re: #132 Thanos

Thanks, Thanos. I thought perhaps you'd used google, but your link is even better.

re: #46 Killian Bundy

The AFP gets a lesson in terrorist BS

/a classic

Killian ...that was a great video ...and the music was good too ...funny video but sad because it is so true ...

I have to run, my wife recorded a Christmas movie earlier she wants to watch with me, see you later.

re: #137 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Oh, okay, sight your proof of that, genius.

PIMF- Site.

re: #114 BlueCanuck
Indeed it is an interesting subject; as I said in my #78 above, Charles deserves the credit for demonstrating, unequivocally to the public that not only does the MSM lean waaay left, but in fact - as in Rathergate - is more than willing to make things up out of whole cloth to influence the thinking of the body politic. Indeed, in Rathergate those crooks masquerading as journalists literally made up a story in the hope that by doing so they would help their candidate win the election. And CHARLES nailed their ass to the wall, thereby demonstrating, for the very first time, as far as I know, that a private citizen - with an outlet as large as LGF, at least - could show their thievery and rank hypocrisy to said body politic.
Charles did indeed receive a lot of kudos for doing that, but no where near as much as he should have.

re: #138 Sharmuta

oh, I did use google for the first link here.

re: #141 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

PIMF- Site.

Cite?

re: #131 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Only when they were caught they did!

No, they broke the story.

re: #120 notutopia

The descent into jargon, which I am often guilty of, is masked as the use of a special form of precision in which members of a craft use words as tools in a manner that permits others to easily gain their exact meaning. The problem is that it can easily be used for exactly the opposite purpose. A stilted and unnatural vocabulary can be used to conceal the message from those who are not members of the inner craft guild, also it can be used to cover up sloppy thinking by using an accepted short hand term to state a position as a conclusion, instead of as a mere proposition that needs to be proven. The additional question of run on sentences will be left for another time. Good academics are well aware of these problems and have vainly raised the issue for decades if not centuries.

"Not only did the Times dismiss early allegations of bad behavior by Jayson Blair, the reporter who was fired for plagiarizing and faking stories, but the Times still has not gotten to the bottom of the scandal.

In an interview with AIM, Blair said he learned his techniques of deception from colleagues at the paper. What's more, his book alleges that Times journalists wrote stories in exchange for sex and other gifts. We would like to believe these sensational charges are false. We don't necessarily believe Blair now, after his record of deceit, and we have strongly condemned what he has done. But the allegations won't go away just by ignoring them. The Times has an obligation to fully investigate them."

re: #128 Charles

I'll take "quirky."

How about 'kewpie-doll cute'?
/Backs away slowly...

re: #143 Thanos

oh, I did use google for the first link here.

Perhaps certain msm shills could try that next time.

Have fun watching the movie!

re: #144 Sharmuta

Cite?

That too, dammit! : )

re: #128 Charles

I'll take "quirky."

You say quirky, I say cutie :)

re: #125 Sharmuta

Find information about Blair so quickly?

He is the google-fu master. Look at how many links he has to his credit.

Meant to mention that earlier, Thanos. I'm frickin' impressed at the number of links you've posted here. You're a human news aggregator.

You are human, right?

re: #149 Sharmuta

Perhaps certain msm shills could try that next time.

Have fun watching the movie!

Har har.

I know about Jayson Blair by heart, unfortunately.

re: #129 Steffan

Basically very lazy photo editors with an anti-Israel bias. They had been using his staged photos for years before they got caught with this.

They claimed that he was fired. It wouldn't greatly surprise me if he was working for them again under a nom de guerre.

THIS. And well done; I hadn't considered the hidden-employment possibility.

109 jcm
12/13/2008 9:10:50 pm PST
re: #108 radford

I liked this article better.

It is short and sweet...
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[Link: acjournal.org...]

I think it's better than this "peer reviewed" article.. Worth reading.

re: #153 Cognito

Har har.

I know about Jayson Blair by heart, unfortunately.

You sound like LoFlyer with your pirate talk.

re: #145 Cognito

No, they broke the story.

Uh- he was caught because the person he plagiarized blew the whistle.

Anyways... glad you're here to fact check asses and take names, Charles.

My cats are pointing toward the stairs...
Good night all!
Again, Congratulations and thanks for this great site Charles!

Charles,
How come when I click on a link to a comment that is being quoted the version that comes up in the new page does not have the + - etc icon links? I have to scroll up in the thread to ding or read the ding count on a comment.

re: #148 PSGInfinity
LOL! I wouldn't back away slowly, if I were you, I'd run like hell!
Or at least as fast as I can run.
Ok, maybe backing away slowly is the right way to put it!

Meanwhile, there's been yet another creationist meltdown on the last EVO thread...

Charles: I love you. You are my main man. But, I think we need to show the Zombie a little love here too. So props to Charles and to Zombie. Woot!

re: #157 Sharmuta

Uh- he was caught because the person he plagiarized blew the whistle.

Anyways... glad you're here to fact check asses and take names, Charles.

Please. Don't lecture me on Jayson Blair. Seriously.

Yes, someone tipped off his editors that he had plagiarized a story. Then they started digging and produced this: The story, broken.

Note the scope, depth and length of that story.

And date.

Fight the good fight with all thy might Charles!

re: #163 Cognito

If the NYT uncovered them, as you claim, why was it necessary for Accuracy In Media to say that "the allegations won't go away just by ignoring them. The Times has an obligation to fully investigate them."

re: #167 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

If the NYT uncovered them, as you claim, why was it necessary for Accuracy In Media to say that "the allegations won't go away just by ignoring them. The Times has an obligation to fully investigate them."

No idea. Got a link?

re: #167 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Don't lecture him. Besides, the NYT is like Mary Poppins- practically perfect in every way.

/

re: #163 Cognito

Please. Don't lecture me on Jayson Blair. Seriously.

Yes, someone tipped off his editors that he had plagiarized a story. Then they started digging and produced this: The story, broken.

This is what the deposed New York Times executive editor-at-the-time Howell raines had to say about it. It's not pretty.

[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

re: #169 Sharmuta

I was particularly fond of Mary Poppins' puff piece about unrepentant Weather Underground terrorists that was published circa September 11, 2001...

re: #162 Robert Schwartz
We all show zombie "a little love" or more accurately, congratulations for the fine work zombie has done over a long period of time - but this thread really does "belong" to Charles, because, as zombie so accurately pointed out, Charles broke this story wide open.

re: #170 Salamantis

This is what the deposed New York Times executive editor-at-the-time Howell raines had to say about it. It's not pretty.

[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

It was worse than not pretty. It was hideous.

# Trippon 27 May 2003 at 2:40 pm
” . . . the story of Jayson Blair imploding and then trying to find a way to make it someone else’s fault but his own. ”

I suspect there are some people who will buy the book for that reason, and use it as a way to discredit affirmative action.

I think it discredits Jayson, and if he goes through with it he will be hurting other African-Americans for his own benefit.

note the date

It seems like the dramatic downturn in both the credibility and circulation of the mainstream media can be linked to exposures such as these.

This paper uses the scandal as a case study to assess how Little Green Footballs was able to mount a challenge to mainstream media. Despite theorizing to the contrary about the collective promise of networked publics, Fauxtography reveals that one of the biggest challenges of late to mainstream media came from the activities of a single blogger.

Besides the fact the challenge was demonstratably true? Sounds like an attempt to rationalize the exposures of deliberate media fakery and propoganda as simply a political struggle between "a single blogger" and the mainstream media. Not true. Public communication has indeed been democratized (for now).

My hat's off to Charles for these important contributions! Now if someone could just convince him that he doesn't have to drink the "evolutionist kool aid." After all, Charles is already is skeptical of the claims of the majority of scientists on global warming, so there's hope.

But what would Dr. Eugenie Scott of the NCSE say to Charles regarding his skepticism regarding global warming? Here's a recent quote from Dr.Scott to educators.

If evolution carries 99 percent unanimity among scientists, then climate change as being caused by human activity has a rate of 85 to 90 percent unanimity among scientists.

So should the evidence against global warming be taught in science classrooms?

-sk

re: #169 Sharmuta

Don't lecture him. Besides, the NYT is like Mary Poppins- practically perfect in every way.

/

I thought that was Mac Davis.

[Link: whatever.scalzi.com...]

Inauguration donor info released

President-elect Barack Obama has already raised nearly $10 million in donations for next month’s inauguration, according to figures released by the transition Friday.

But unlike the president-elect’s campaign fundraising efforts, very few of the donations are coming in small dollar amounts. Of the 244 names disclosed Friday, 168 donors have given the maximum amount of $50,000.

. . .

Five members of the Soros family, including financier George Soros, gave the maximum amount.

/I'm getting an uneasy feeling about the next four years

re: #175 swamprat

note the date

All right... But what is it supposed to mean?

re: #176 Spar Kling

Real nice. First compliment him, then insult him. You're a real piece of work.

re: #160 realwest

LOL! I wouldn't back away slowly, if I were you, I'd run like hell! Or at least as fast as I can run. O[K], maybe backing away slowly is the right way to put it!

I carefully weighed the pluses and minuses of each approach. Because of my care, 'Scream like a banshee and attack with a nerf gun' got short shrift. (Which is probably a good thing).
:)

re: #183 Iron Fist

Yep. The Pravda comparison is a bit extreme, but yep.

LGF does in fact offer a place for those who share a set worldview and enables people who have shared views to find each other — it is a conservative site where those who are anti–big media gather to express their views.

I'm not 'anti-big media' as much as I am anti-media lying.

Wow - well done paper.

Let's remember that most inquiring minds have been viewing any news from the Middle East with scrutiny as there has been a long history of faux reporting. Israelis have come to expect this type of reporting in the MSM.
The Al Durah/ Palywood videos were extremely damaging and blatant and the success of the ensuing trial can be credited to internet reporting. Several websites sprung up bringing the details of the Al Durah faux reporting to the attention of the blogasphere and internet "news" sites laying much needed groundwork for others to follow. LGF contributed here also.

What was so amazing about the 2006 War reporting is that one would think that News Agencies would have been aware that their reporting was actually being scrutinized. That there were so many blatant instances was proof that the MSM was due for a biatch slapping like never before.

It took a "quirky musician from LA" to throw the first slap.

Bravo Charles

re: #176 Spar Kling

Wow. Didn't see that one coming, really. Here we are, talking about one of the major scandals that broke on this forum, more than two years ago, and somehow none of us saw the underpinnings of Charles' anti-creationist motivation.

You, sir, are a visionary.

/

re: #170 Salamantis
Hi Sal - listen, I don't want to be seen as trying to lecture you, but you have fallen for Cognito's favorite ploy: take a truly decent thread, especially one which reflects the real impact Charles and LGF have had in the media/blog world, and make it about something else; if not something about Cognito, then something Cognito would rather it be about.
I know you well enough to know that you have given due props to Charles, but by following Cognitios "bait" if you will, you are unintentionally dilutiing the impact of this thread.
Please don't fall for Cognito's bait. Let's try to keep this the tribute to Charles that he so richly deserves and earned.
Please.

re: #179 Killian Bundy

Inauguration donor info released

/I'm getting an uneasy feeling about the next four years

Barack didn't come from nowhere. He had to have had a mentor, a backer, someone to part the waters. Although there are (Soros) theories, we still don't know who that is...

re: #176 Spar Kling

It seems like the dramatic downturn in both the credibility and circulation of the mainstream media can be linked to exposures such as these.

Besides the fact the challenge was demonstratably true? Sounds like an attempt to rationalize the exposures of deliberate media fakery and propoganda as simply a political struggle between "a single blogger" and the mainstream media. Not true. Public communication has indeed been democratized (for now).

My hat's off to Charles for these important contributions! Now if someone could just convince him that he doesn't have to drink the "evolutionist kool aid." After all, Charles is already is skeptical of the claims of the majority of scientists on global warming, so there's hope.

But what would Dr. Eugenie Scott of the NCSE say to Charles regarding his skepticism regarding global warming? Here's a recent quote from Dr.Scott to educators.

If evolution carries 99 percent unanimity among scientists, then climate change as being caused by human activity has a rate of 85 to 90 percent unanimity among scientists.

So should the evidence against global warming be taught in science classrooms?

-sk

Climatologists who subscribe to the proposition that human activity is responsible for the lion's share of global warming are a progressively decreasing percentage of climatologists. Because they are following the contradictory empirical evidence. Less than two decades after the conjecture was first proposed, it is being empirically discredited and debunked.

Evolutionary theory, on the other hand, has stood the test of time. A century and a half of it. In which ALL of the vast mass of empirical evidence has supported evolutionary theory, and NONE of the empirical evidence has contradicted it.

re: #188 realwest

Cognito who?

re: #184 Cognito

Yep. The Pravda comparison is a bit extreme, but yep.

I found the comparison quite fitting.

re: #179 Killian Bundy

Inauguration donor info released

/I'm getting an uneasy feeling about the next four years

Ding Ding Ding rotating title nominee

re: #180 Cognito

Sigh. It means I am going to make a cup of tea.

re: #184 Cognito

Yep. The Pravda comparison is a bit extreme, but yep.

Wait until the new administration takes over.

re: #188 realwest

What are you talking about, man? Especially since someone else brought up the subject?

I must be magic.

Actually, the NYTA is worse. They didn't have guns to their heads.

re: #195 swamprat

That's cool. I thought you were working toward a point and I wanted to understand it.

re: #198 loflyer

GFY.

I suppose, then, that the letter signed by 30 staffers of The Diamondback, concerning Blair’s performance and errors while editor-in-chief of the student newspaper in 1996-97, and predating the various Times actions, (does the Times do no vetting / investigation except of opponents?) does not count.

But back to the main topic: Many congratulations to Charles, for his outstanding work. Doubtless, more to come.

re: #192 BlueCanuck
Thank you.

re: #188 realwest

Hi Sal - listen, I don't want to be seen as trying to lecture you, but you have fallen for Cognito's favorite ploy: take a truly decent thread, especially one which reflects the real impact Charles and LGF have had in the media/blog world, and make it about something else; if not something about Cognito, then something Cognito would rather it be about.
I know you well enough to know that you have given due props to Charles, but by following Cognitios "bait" if you will, you are unintentionally dilutiing the impact of this thread.
Please don't fall for Cognito's bait. Let's try to keep this the tribute to Charles that he so richly deserves and earned.
Please.

Sorry, realwest; I just could not allow creationist crapola appear on this site unrefuted. Others might see it, and a lack of response to it, and think that that is the commenters' consensus here. I do not want my silence to be mistakenly taken as acquiescence or assent.

My Russian is really rusty but...

v'pravde nyet pravdii

Something like that. I probably got my cases wrong.

It was an (undergound) saying of the Russians. "There is no truth in Pravda." Pravda, of course, means truth.

The LA Times and now this?
Congratulations Charles!

/It's about time

Hi All,
I am way off topic here but does anyone know any safe way to get rid of something called pro antispyware? it has infected the kids computer and is flashing freaking porn up on the screen. I am ready to...nevermind, I would just like to know if anyone knows how to get rid of this safely. All the Google results seem to take me to other sites that want me to download more crap.

re: #199 Salem

Actually, the NYTA is worse. They didn't have guns to their heads.

Should be NYT, naturally...

re: #205 EmmmieG

And there was no news in Izvestia

re: #202 Arbalest

I suppose, then, that the letter signed by 30 staffers of The Diamondback, concerning Blair’s performance and errors while editor-in-chief of the student newspaper in 1996-97, and predating the various Times actions, (does the Times do no vetting / investigation except of opponents?) does not count.

Might want to go back and look that up.

The scandal became a scandal only after it was brought to the attention of Reuters editors because a Reuters employee was surfing Little Green Footballs. The doctored photos would otherwise have been a self–contained online debate.

I would love to have that Reuters employee register and join in the discussion.

Or is the person already here?

re: #207 Stonemason

Hi All,
I am way off topic here but does anyone know any safe way to get rid of something called pro antispyware? it has infected the kids computer and is flashing freaking porn up on the screen. I am ready to...nevermind, I would just like to know if anyone knows how to get rid of this safely. All the Google results seem to take me to other sites that want me to download more crap.

[Link: housecall.trendmicro.com...]

re: #198 loflyer

Yeah. It was our fault. And you deserve a medal for realizing and pointing it out.
2 more minutes until my tea is done.

re: #204 Salamantis

Sorry, realwest; I just could not allow creationist crapola appear on this site unrefuted. Others might see it, and a lack of response to it, and think that that is the commenters' consensus here. I do not want my silence to be mistakenly taken as acquiescence or assent.

What on earth are you people talking about?

re: #200 Cognito
I know you did.

Congrats Charles!..Just saw this post..That's why I come here; its better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness...Thanks for lighting those candles..

re: #212 Bobibutu

Thank you ever so much, I knew a lizard or two would help!

Hmm... Didn't I mention earlier that Cognito was getting to be "that guy" again?

re: #210 Cognito

Perhaps this link?

re: #215 swamprat

I know you did.

All right...

re: #198 loflyer

I'm not sure Charles could have made an impact. The One™ was too powerful - especially with his allies in the MSM.

re: #218 Noam Sayin'

Hmm... Didn't I mention earlier that Cognito was getting to be "that guy" again?

Some of us knew he never was anyone else.

re: #198 loflyer
loflyer - that's just so much bullshit and you know it. LGF covered the election, all of Obama's extraordinarily dubious connections to very unsavory folks, his total lack of experience and demonstrted ability to be POTUS and the MSM's falling all over itself trying to get Obama elected. Charles and LGF didn't miss any of it, none, zip, nada.
Much less did we miss it because of creationist/ID threads.

re: #221 Racer X

Why did you quote that crap?

re: #214 Cognito

What on earth are you people talking about?

What do you mean "you people", white boy?

re: #219 Arbalest

Perhaps this link?

As persuasive as a Wikipedia link might be, you might again want to look closer.

That letter came well after the New York Times broke the Blair story.

Congratulations Charles ...

re: #224 Sharmuta

Why did you quote that crap?

I'm an idiot. Sorry about that.

re: #208 Salem

Should be NYT, naturally...

In New Order NY Times will be Agency responsible for all records and reporting to guide sweaty masses who insist on being able to read. Also Fearless Leader likes crosswords puzzles, but cheats.

re: #228 Racer X

You're still my favorite stalker. ;)

re: #207 Stonemason

Have you tried Spybot search and Destroy or Microsoft Defender?

/two quick solutions off top of my head.
//if you don't have them, you will have to download them.

re: #184 Cognito

As the print media fades away from lack of a business model, here are a few easy things they could do that would make the product a bit more appealing to me. One, pick a story or two every day and print them in 2 languages. A sentence of English followed by the same one in Spanish or German in parenthesis. That'd be kind of cool. That would be an easy way to slowly pick up another language. Another thing. A blank sheet of paper somewhere in the newspaper. Just one flipping blank sheet. So many times I've bought and read a newspaper in an airport or at a hotel and after reading it, I want to jot something down, or just doodle out of boredom and there is just no white space anywhere in an entire newspaper. Save some ink and give me one blank sheet in the pile. One more. A picture for the kids to color with crayons. Finally, a "Best of the Blogs" feature where they reprint the best posts from around the blogosphere.

Charles - congratulations. Its always nice to get wide recognition for your hard work. This is well deserved. Thanks for all you do.

re: #222 Sharmuta

Some of us knew he never was anyone else.

You'd think, after a banning, that he'd temper his commentary.

re: #231 BlueCanuck

Thanks Blue, will try those too...I have Macafee from Comcast but this thing came in anyway.

re: #232 loflyer

Fuck you! It was pointed out daily. DAILY.

re: #230 Sharmuta

You're still my favorite stalker. ;)

You know I'm always at your service!

re: #218 Noam Sayin'

Hmm... Didn't I mention earlier that Cognito was getting to be "that guy" again?

I'm the same boy I've always been.

I've got no problem whatsoever with harsh media criticism. If you make a living ostensibly informing the public, in whatever form, then you've got to expect harsh criticism. But I also happen to believe that criticism should be correct.

re: #198 loflyer

I've already fished one turd out of the punchbowl in this thread; I leave it to my fellow Lizards to remove this one.

re: #217 Stonemason

Thank you ever so much, I knew a lizard or two would help!

You are welcome.

Housecall is free and runs in the background - I run it every week or so - amazing what gets picked up.

re: #232 loflyer

Dude. Have you been drinking?

re: #236 Stonemason

I could give you the name of a great spyware detector, but it's not free. Cheap, but not free. Found stuff spybot and norton missed.

re: #233 Mich-again

The 'Best of the Blogs' idea isn't bad, although it might be hard to make work on the slower production schedule papers have.

The other idea, though... a blank page? Honestly?

re: #240 Salamantis

Don't quote bullshit, Sala.

re: #204 Salamantis
I understand your point, but I didn't see creationist crapola in Cognito's posts. Not saying there wasn't, but he took off after one comment and suddenly, once again, this thread became all about Cognito.
Methinks we all really should focus much harder on what this thread is about.

re: #239 Cognito

I'm the same boy I've always been.

I've got no problem whatsoever with harsh media criticism. If you make a living ostensibly informing the public, in whatever form, then you've got to expect harsh criticism. But I also happen to believe that criticism should be correct.

I wasn't talking about that.

I was talking about you being an insufferable prick.

re: #235 Noam Sayin'

You'd think, after a banning, that he'd temper his commentary.

Looking back over the thread, I'm not sure which comments of mine could be considered intemperate.

And another thing- pirates aren't cool. They're fucking savage killers, usually muslim. I think holding them in any sort of esteem is stupid.

re: #246 realwest

I understand your point, but I didn't see creationist crapola in Cognito's posts. Not saying there wasn't, but he took off after one comment and suddenly, once again, this thread became all about Cognito.
Methinks we all really should focus much harder on what this thread is about.

I misunderstood you; I was referrring to Spar Kling's post.

re: #232 loflyer

The pirate shtick is getting real old. Any time you want to drop it is cool with me.

re: #249 Noam Sayin'

You make me smile

re: #226 Cognito

True, Wiki is not in the same category as the Times (Wiki’s not on the verge of bankruptcy, etc.), but the vetting / investigation (i.e., calling references, checking to see if Blair really graduated, etc.) could’ve been done.

re: #249 Noam Sayin'

I wasn't talking about that.

I was talking about you being an insufferable prick.

Please quote

re: #248 loflyer

Get your own fucking blog.

re: #243 Sharmuta

that would be great, if the free stuff does not work it might save a housecall by the geeks...

Actually loflyer raises a valid question in the context of this thread. What influence can we, as new media, have? The fact is that 90% plus of the public know only what the old media give them. That includes most educated, wealthy and influential people as well as average voters. Despite the rapid growth of the new media that fact remains for the present. IMHO we could not change the election by our discussions of the truth because the lock between the Democrats and the old media was so tight, tighter than it had been in the admittedly biased past, that the message simply could not get out. The old Soviets did not have the same effective control in their closed society. Do we have influence? Yes and it is growing as this thread shows but we must consider why we can influence on these issues without overstating our expectations in the larger sense.

re: #232 loflyer

I would say that the media did their job of campaigning for Obama far better than the LGF's and conservative blogs did of pointing out the contradictions of Obama and his supporters.

I think its simpler than that. The Dems had a better candidate. The conservative blogs struck a lot of matches during the campaign, but wet logs don't burn.

re: #251 Sharmuta

And another thing- pirates aren't cool. They're fucking savage killers, usually muslim. I think holding them in any sort of esteem is stupid.

For heaven's sake.

re: #253 loflyer

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, asshole!

re: #257 Cognito

Please quote

Here, for instance.

re: #262 Cognito

STFU!

re: #176 Spar Kling

So where are those peer-reviewed "intelligent design" papers you promised to show us?