Video: Immigration to the US, 1870 - 2007
Instapundit links to a very cool animation showing patterns of immigration to the United States, from 1870 to 2007.
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Instapundit links to a very cool animation showing patterns of immigration to the United States, from 1870 to 2007.
%%VIDEO=(Hat tip: LawHawk.)
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Catttt Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:37:14am |
I LOVE this video. Very cool - thanks. BUZZ IT UP, YAHOO PEOPLE!
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:38:56am |
The green, what part of the world is green, and how many are legal. Inquiring minds need to know.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:40:27am |
Iraqi journalist throws shoes at Bush
Dec 14 01:52 PM US/Eastern
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An Iraqi journalist threw two shoes towards George W Bush, without hitting him, as the US president was shaking hands with the Iraqi prime minister in his office in Baghdad on Sunday, an AFP journalist said.
I certainly hope the Yankees don't don't try to sign this mutt. Obviously his control sucks!
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:41:11am |
I like it, demonstrates the variety of influences in the US over the years, and how we steal the best from all and make it our own.
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jaunte Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:42:02am |
Interesting that there are so many 'red dots' (Europeans) in North America that they are sometimes considered the default mode, while immigrants from contiguous landmasses are perceived as more 'foreign.'
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:42:36am |
re: #9 Thanos
I like it, demonstrates the variety of influences in the US over the years, and how we steal the best from all and make it our own.
Well not so sure about that. I mean when someone is sneaking into this country illegally, I am not sure who is stealing from who?
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ratherdashing Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:42:52am |
We love immigrants. Just come here legally and be willing to assimilate quickly and all is cool with me.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:43:47am |
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winston06 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:44:19am |
re: #14 ratherdashing
the problem is the stupid and deranged immigration system in the US. The best and the most skilled have to line up while the poor, criminals and gangs can jump the border and mess things up. US immigration system needs a huge reform for the better
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Desert Dog Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:45:04am |
That is our strength...our diversity. When the Irish got here in the mid 1800's, the "Know Nothings" complained that they spoke a foreign language and were Catholic...they would "NEVER" fit in...well, they did...and in doing so, they energized the country...the same thing has happened in each successive wave...Eastern & Southern Europeans in the beginning of the 20th Century...and now Latin America and Asia...it makes us STRONGER, more diverse. We have proven over and over and over again that if you unleash a people, give them the rule of law, freedom, capitalism and limit them only by their own self imposed limitations, they will flourish. The USA has many problems and we have not always lived up to our ideals, but there is no doubt in my mind, this place is the greatest country to ever exist because we literally are "E Pluribus Unum"
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jaunte Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:45:19am |
People have wandered around the earth for a long time:
[Link: www.asianpacificpost.com...]
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:45:51am |
re: #12 winston06
There has to be at least one don't you think, yeah your right, never mind.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:46:08am |
re: #17 winston06
the problem is the stupid and deranged immigration system in the US. The best and the most skilled have to line up while the poor, criminals and gangs can jump the border and mess things up. US immigration system needs a huge reform for the better
Don't worry, McCain is gonna get right on it?
/
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lifeofthemind Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:46:44am |
Like looking at a photo of Coney Island in the good old days and saying that one is Grandpa!
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USCMSNE Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:46:44am |
I'm confused. I thought everyone hated this country. I thought we were to blame for all the world's problems. Why would anyone want to immigrate here?
/ Sounds of crickets from the left...
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winston06 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:47:10am |
re: #20 jainphx
There has to be at least one don't you think, yeah your right, never mind.
hehe... I doubt it. None of those green dots have come here (the US) legally
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:47:43am |
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opnion Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:48:26am |
re: #14 ratherdashing
We love immigrants. Just come here legally and be willing to assimilate quickly and all is cool with me.
That's it , come here & be part of us & we all improve each other.
If the purpose is to only improve your own situation& contribute nothing, that is a bad trade off.
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:49:20am |
re: #27 winston06
You aught to be here in Arizona, although things should improve with Nappy leaving for Washington.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:50:35am |
Are we really getting more Australians than Russians? Interesting.
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JimmyTheClaw Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:50:58am |
A man walks out to the street and catches a taxi just going by He gets into the taxi, and the cabbie says, "Perfect timing. You're just like Frank."
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> Passenger: 'Who?'
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> Cabbie: "Frank Feldman. He's a guy who did everything right all the time. Like my coming along when you needed a cab, things happened like that to Frank Feldman
> every single time."
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> Passenger: "There are always a few clouds over everybody."
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> Cabbie: "Not Frank Feldman He was a terrific athlete. He could have won the Grand-Slam at tennis. He could golf with the pros. He sang like an opera baritone and danced like a Broadway star and you should have heard him play the piano. He was an amazing guy."
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> Passenger: "Sounds like he was something really special."
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> Cabbie: "There's more... He had a memory like a computer. He remembered everybody's birthday. He knew all about wine, which foods to order and which fork to eat them with. He could fix anything. Not like me. I change a fuse, and the whole street blacks out. But Frank Feldman, he could do everything right."
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> Passenger: "Wow, some guy then."
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> Cabbie: "He always knew the quickest way to go in traffic and avoid traffic jams. Not like me, I always seem to get stuck in them. But Frank, he never made a mistake, and he really knew how to treat a woman and make her feel good. He would never answer her back even if she was in the wrong; and his clothing was always immaculate, shoes highly polished too. He was the perfect man! He never made a mistake. No one could ever measure up to Frank Feldman."
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> Passenger: "An amazing fellow. How did you meet him?"
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> Cabbie: "Well, I never actually met Frank. He died. I'm married to his fuckin' widow."
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:51:19am |
re: #32 Killgore Trout
Are we really getting more Australians than Russians? Interesting.
I find that hard to believe
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VegasRick Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:51:59am |
re: #31 jainphx
You aught to be here in Arizona, although things should improve with Nappy leaving for Washington.
(1-11-1) Cinci 17, Washington 0. Methinks washington sucks.
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winston06 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:52:07am |
re: #31 jainphx
Last time I was there in AZ (7 months ago) they had started checking illegals. it s a good move
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:52:16am |
OT -
Somehow I messed this in the news, I guess it's not newsworthy, but did you know the
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Catttt Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:52:33am |
OT
President Bush has very good reflexes (the "thrown shoes" video was just shown - President Bush ducked handily).
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Desert Dog Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:52:47am |
re: #31 jainphx
You aught to be here in Arizona, although things should improve with Nappy leaving for Washington.
Mexico sends the most "legal" immigrants to the USA each year. Second place is The Philippines...of course, Mexico also supplies the majority of "illegal" ones as well.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:52:58am |
re: #39 Cattt
OT
President Bush has very good reflexes (the "thrown shoes" video was just shown - President Bush ducked handily).
Were?
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shug Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:53:16am |
nobody came from the west.
that sure made for a long trip from Australia and Japan
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Syrah Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:53:35am |
It is a good illustration of why race nationalism fairs so poorly here.
Simply put. We hate Nazis.
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CapeCoddah Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:54:11am |
re: #34 Nevergiveup
I find that hard to believe
I find it hard to believe also. Lots of Russian, Eastern Block folks here on the Cape. Along with a lot of Portuguese and Dominican folks also.
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:54:25am |
re: #35 VegasRick
Ah, I think were talking apples and oranges.LOL
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:54:28am |
Con't (I hate it when that happens)
The President is in Iraq? Looks like they gave him quite a welcome too..
/PIMF
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VegasRick Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:54:44am |
re: #37 Yankee Division Son
OT -
Somehow I messed this in the news, I guess it's not newsworthy, but did you know the
Wow! didn't know that!
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littleoldlady Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:55:02am |
Golly! I'm a product of a mixed marriage!
/who knew?!
My dad was a yellow dot and my mom was a red one.
/orange you happy to know that? ;-)
I can't get the video to work... :-(
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Desert Dog Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:55:11am |
re: #46 CapeCoddah
The level of European immigration has slowed down as well...the "red" stream seems to be non-stop...most of the new immigrants coming here now are from Asia and Latin America
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:55:12am |
re: #13 Nevergiveup
We are stealing from all cultures. Illegal immigration is bad and needs to be prevented but only Americans can destroy America.
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Yankee Division Son Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:56:06am |
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:56:23am |
re: #53 Thanos
We are stealing from all cultures. Illegal immigration is bad and needs to be prevented but only Americans can destroy America.
Maybe, but half of us are democrats?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:56:33am |
re: #34 Nevergiveup
Well this is from 1820- 2007 so for much of that time Russia was behind the Iron Curtain.
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VegasRick Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:56:42am |
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Catttt Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:57:05am |
re: #42 Nevergiveup
Were?
You mean where? News conference with PM Maliki in Iraq. Secret Service jumped on him, together with a lot of Iraqi reporters.
President and PM fine. Apparently one of the reporters got a black eye in the melee, but she is ok.
They are saying the reporter had been kidnapped and tortured recently - no details - and was "under a lot of stress."
So from now on - all reporters must be naked! :D
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:57:11am |
re: #57 Killgore Trout
Well this is from 1820- 2007 so for much of that time Russia was behind the Iron Curtain.
Ok that might make sense.
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winston06 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:57:25am |
re: #57 Killgore Trout
how many Jews fled Russia during the cold war?
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:58:33am |
re: #62 Cattt
Maybe it was Bilal Hussein.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:58:51am |
re: #64 winston06
how many Jews fled Russia during the cold war?
Well depends on how you define a Jew. But Between here and Israel I bet over 2 million. maybe more
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:59:20am |
re: #54 winston06
It's a dry heat, so don't let that part worry you. You know when it gets down to 50 Deg. in the winter I freeze, coming from Detroit that was considered warm.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:59:33am |
re: #32 Killgore Trout
Are we really getting more Australians than Russians? Interesting.
We will roo the day!
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Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 14, 2008 10:59:47am |
re: #64 winston06
The Jews had an easier time getting out (the government was happy to see them go) but they were probably about 1-2% of the population.
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alexknyc Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:00:28am |
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nyc redneck Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:01:03am |
re: #48 Yankee Division Son
Con't (I hate it when that happens)
The President is in Iraq? Looks like they gave him quite a welcome too../PIMF
i love how the iraqi men wear ties w/ their suits. they look professional.
they are not trying to make a petty anti-western statement by having an open shirt and a jacket, like the sh*t slinging monkey, 'dinner jacket', does.
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:01:54am |
The new White nationalist kookspiracy is "Solutrean truth". Basically the belief that whites were everywhere in the prehistoric world and ruled it until they were wiped out in some areas by Asians/Blacks etc. So when you see stories about "blond haired blued eyed" mummies in S. America and China your kook radar should go on.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:01:59am |
re: #70 Killgore Trout
The Jews had an easier time getting out (the government was happy to see them go) but they were probably about 1-2% of the population.
Well not sure about the Happy thing but the Jackson-Vanick amendment had ALOT to do with it! G-D bless Scope Jackson
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Aye Pod Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:02:00am |
I'm thinking about becoming one of those little red dots myself a couple of years down the line.
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Desert Dog Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:02:45am |
re: #53 Thanos
Illegal immigration is a problem in almost every state...even more so along the border. With this economic downturn and higher unemployment, I would guess the rates if illegal immigration will subside a little. But, as long as there is no chance of making it in Mexico, other Latin American countries or Asian countries...they will still come here. We need to revamp our entire process. I am in favor of letting in as many as we can take...but what is happening only a few hours south of where i am sitting now has to stop.
The Illegal Industry is run by mobsters and drug cartels. Murders, rapes, kidnapping...that is what many of these people face...then, they "might" get a job...We need to control our border and end illegal immigration and put an end to this nonsense.
They are taking matters into their own hands here in Maricopa County. The Sheriff, with the County Attorney, are prosecuting illegal immigrants with State laws because they are getting no help from the Feds. If every county or state in the union did that...we would see a drastic drop in illegal immigration.
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littleoldlady Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:03:18am |
re: #64 winston06
how many Jews fled Russia during the cold war?
Very few until the late 1980's. And then more went to Israel than came here.
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:04:33am |
Any country that receives Jewish immigrants should consider them selves blessed. Almost every thing that has improved our way of living, have come from them.
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shug Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:05:14am |
re: #77 Desert Dog
As long as the poor people in America continue to die from obesity related illnesses, the poor people from all over the world ( where you die from starvation ) will flock to our shores.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:05:43am |
re: #76 Jimmah
I love the UK. I'd love to move there but I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life there and I certainly would want to raise kids there. As much as I love the place I'm really not confident in the long term success of the UK.
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greenmiler Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:05:58am |
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winston06 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:06:09am |
re: #73 nyc redneck
the dinner-jackets have been in charge since 1979. The previous govt in Iran before 1979 was as western as you could get. Check it here
[Link: rezapahlavi.org...]
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doppelganglander Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:06:49am |
re: #74 Thanos
The new White nationalist kookspiracy is "Solutrean truth". Basically the belief that whites were everywhere in the prehistoric world and ruled it until they were wiped out in some areas by Asians/Blacks etc. So when you see stories about "blond haired blued eyed" mummies in S. America and China your kook radar should go on.
Well, they have found blond-haired, blue-eyed mummies in China and South America. There's also Kennewick man, a Caucasian found in Washington State. The crackpot part is that these were the indigenous people in those locations. Is that what you mean?
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:07:16am |
re: #81 winston06
even Liberal Jews?
Russian Jews are less likely to be liberal but also less likely to be identified as Jews since they are less likely to be affiliated with a Temple etc. So not sure how that figures into the calculations who votes for who?
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greenmiler Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:07:58am |
I'd like to see that animation going backwards with only liberals going out
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winston06 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:08:03am |
re: #88 Nevergiveup
Secular Jews are Liberals while orthodox, religious Jews are more Conservative.
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:08:41am |
re: #77 Desert Dog
I've long counseled that the solution to illegal immigration is going to be found locally, not federally. There aren't enough ICE agents to enforce, but local authorities can do so effectively, that's why you need to know your local Pol's stances on the issue.
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:08:41am |
re: #81 winston06
Yes that they are liberals isn't good, but that doesn't stop the brain power that they exude. I'm not sure why some thing politically the way they do, but just keep inventions and medical advancements coming.
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Nevergiveup Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:08:53am |
re: #90 winston06
Secular Jews are Liberals while orthodox, religious Jews are more Conservative.
EXCEPT Russian Jews having lived behind the Iron Curtain are less likely to fall for the usual liberal bullshit.
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Desert Dog Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:09:05am |
re: #82 shug
Isn't the USA the only country where the "poor people" drive down to the government agency to get their assistance?
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jaunte Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:09:10am |
re: #89 greenmiler
Sort of like the Gitmo problem; no one would want to take them.
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Aye Pod Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:10:01am |
re: #83 Killgore Trout
Maybe we can come to some kind of 6 month a year house swap arrangement so neither of us has to actually change nationality...lol
Something is up with my pc btw- I better go sort it out. Later.
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shug Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:11:07am |
re: #86 winston06
In America the poor people are fat.
In most of the rest of the world the poor people are starving.
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greenmiler Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:11:11am |
re: #95 jaunte
Sort of like the Gitmo problem; no one would want to take them.
Yep and if they did find a place they'd be whining about the new country in a week. its in there genes
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shug Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:11:39am |
OK, survey time: Shug needs a new phone
Blackberry storm or iPhone.
pros/cons
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winston06 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:12:04am |
re: #97 shug
and what did you mean by that, if I may ask?
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:12:42am |
re: #87 doppelganglander
Well, they have found blond-haired, blue-eyed mummies in China and South America. There's also Kennewick man, a Caucasian found in Washington State. The crackpot part is that these were the indigenous people in those locations. Is that what you mean?
The papers say that but if you go to the genes, you find that it's not true. Sorry, but moslty it's bogus (I haven't been able to confirm on the Chinese mummy yet.) The gentleman who's been doing the examination of the Peruvian mummies is who you should consult if you disagree, he says they are just a lighter skinned variety of the surrounding Amerinds, and have the same common ancestors.
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nyc redneck Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:13:29am |
re: #85 winston06
the dinner-jackets have been in charge since 1979. The previous govt in Iran before 1979 was as western as you could get. Check it here
[Link: rezapahlavi.org...]
yes, he is making a statement. to reject modern style and modern thinking.
he should just wear a burqua.
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winston06 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:13:46am |
re: #87 doppelganglander
There are villages and town in central Iran where people have blue eyes and blonde/brunette hair colors.
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:13:55am |
re: #102 Thanos
We all have the same ancestors, so what's the point.
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shug Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:14:21am |
re: #101 winston06
and what did you mean by that, if I may ask?
quite simple really : The fact that our poor people are obese means we are a nation of plenty.
People want to come here
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Max Darkside Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:14:32am |
awk awk, awk... This map not show us immigrant coming down from the Planet Alpha-Lepton.
/buzz-click... we come in peace.
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:14:39am |
re: #104 winston06
There are villages and town in central Iran where people have blue eyes and blonde/brunette hair colors.
There are villages in the Pashtun highlands where the people look Irish - look at Sherpao.
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:16:23am |
re: #108 Max Darkside
I've always wanted to vacation there, just how do we get there.
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fclass308 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:19:03am |
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winston06 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:19:40am |
okay folks... see u guys later - time to run some errands.
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:20:21am |
The point is that the Solutrean troofers are twisting archeological evidence to support the notion that all land really belongs to whites. The term comes from "Solutre" where archeologists have found some of the eldest flint tools. The troofers find similar chippings elsewhere in the world and say "See!" ignoring the fact that there are only so many ways to chip flint to make it into a useful tool.
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Desert Dog Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:20:30am |
re: #91 Thanos
I've long counseled that the solution to illegal immigration is going to be found locally, not federally. There aren't enough ICE agents to enforce, but local authorities can do so effectively, that's why you need to know your local Pol's stances on the issue.
For many years, cities, counties, even states turned a blind eye to illegal immigration...passing that buck to the feds. How many of the Sept. 11th terrorist were stopped by the police before they attacked. Local and state police do not bother with that...Add to that the outrageous "Sanctuary City" BS many big cities bragged about...you had the perfect formula for massive illegal immigration.
No federal enforcement, no local or state interference and even ENCOURAGEMENT on some levels. School districts love illegals, they get more federal money for each little rear-end in a seat.
It wasn't until it became a tremendous burden on the social systems that states, counties and cities realized it was costly to have so many illegal immigrants here. I have watch Phoenix transform in the 25 years I have been here. There are parts of this city, that if you didn't know you were in Phoenix, you'd think you are in Mexico. Phoenix has become the "Kidnapping Capital" of the USA. Almost all of it done by drug gangs and mobsters to illegal aliens. I have nothing against Mexican people, in fact, I love their culture, food, etc...But, I also see, every day, 100's of men lined up at various locations around the city, waiting for work. They are still here, in great numbers, even though there has been a concerted effort by the county to round up and prosecute them...The local and state efforts will only succeed if the federal government does their part.
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:21:00am |
re: #115 fclass308
The bad part is that she will do to the country what she did for Arizona, and that won't be good.
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vxbush Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:21:33am |
re: #100 shug
OK, survey time: Shug needs a new phone
Blackberry storm or iPhone.
pros/cons
It depends. Are you going to be using it for work, or personal use? How do you plan to use it? For sheer coolness factor, the iPhone wins hands down. But Blackberry is the standard for business. iPhone is starting to break into that market, but I don't think it's gotten as far as some might wish.
The apps for iPhone, while cool, are supposed to be rather limited because of the price limits Apple sets on any app. So some better apps haven't yet been made for that platform.
Granted, this is all me reading through what I've heard; I have just a throw-away cell phone.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:22:05am |
re: #107 shug
quite simple really : The fact that our poor people are obese means we are a nation of plenty.
People want to come here
It's not how much you eat, it's what you eat. I've been to some interior villages in Mexico that are considered extremely poor, and you see fat people there, especially women, and it's because of the way they cook foods.
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Max Darkside Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:22:08am |
re: #111 jainphx
I've always wanted to vacation there, just how do we get there.
Give me bubble gums I take you. Bring no Slim Whitman music.
/aak aak
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shug Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:22:23am |
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:22:41am |
re: #119 Desert Dog
You are spot on. The Phoenix forty made sure of that.
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:23:06am |
re: #119 Desert Dog
Yep, that's why state and local legistlatures need to work on enabling local authorities to hand off to ICE, and ICE at the fed level needs to stop being the actual police but rather the processing and return agency.
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fclass308 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:23:46am |
re: #121 jainphx
Agreed.
Maybe joe Arpaio should run for governor... :)
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doppelganglander Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:23:55am |
re: #102 Thanos
The papers say that but if you go to the genes, you find that it's not true. Sorry, but moslty it's bogus (I haven't been able to confirm on the Chinese mummy yet.) The gentleman who's been doing the examination of the Peruvian mummies is who you should consult if you disagree, he says they are just a lighter skinned variety of the surrounding Amerinds, and have the same common ancestors.
I don't know about the Peruvian mummy, but the Chinese mummies look pretty legitimate. It's not exactly peer reviewed, but National Geographic produced a documentary about it last year. Considering they were found in 1978, and that increasingly advanced tests have been performed on them, I would bet on them being actual Caucasians. They also appear to have traveled from elsewhere, so the part about indigenous whites dominating Asia at one time is crackpot.
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:24:41am |
re: #124 Max Darkside
But Slim is my IDOL, oh well some sacrifices must be made.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:24:47am |
re: #119 Desert Dog
Will AZ have a Republican Governor when Napolitano leaves?
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vxbush Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:25:51am |
re: #125 shug
not for work. just for fun.
thanks for the info
Then the bigger question is going to be: in the areas where you will be spending most of your time, which has the better network coverage? A cool phone is pretty useless if you can't call out because there's no network. If you're in a big city, that may not be as much of an issue, but it can be a big problem where I live if you're far away from the interstates.
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:26:07am |
re: #128 fclass308
I'd like to see it, but his age is a factor.
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:26:17am |
re: #129 doppelganglander
I don't know about the Peruvian mummy, but the Chinese mummies look pretty legitimate. It's not exactly peer reviewed, but National Geographic produced a documentary about it last year. Considering they were found in 1978, and that increasingly advanced tests have been performed on them, I would bet on them being actual Caucasians. They also appear to have traveled from elsewhere, so the part about indigenous whites dominating Asia at one time is crackpot.
I haven't researched that one yet, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some whites in asia in prehistory.
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Max Darkside Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:26:26am |
re: #130 jainphx
But Slim is my IDOL, oh well some sacrifices must be made.
Indian Love Call...
iz fatal...
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:26:26am |
re: #123 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
It's not how much you eat, it's what you eat. I've been to some interior villages in Mexico that are considered extremely poor, and you see fat people there, especially women, and it's because of the way they cook foods.
Go to any Mexican restaurant (NOT fast food) and try to find something on the menu that is healthy. Good luck.
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debutaunt Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:26:31am |
re: #9 Thanos
I like it, demonstrates the variety of influences in the US over the years, and how we steal the best from all and make it our own.
Steal?
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:26:56am |
re: #131 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Yes Secretary of state Jan Brewer takes office.
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astronmr20 Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:27:57am |
re: #39 Cattt
OT
President Bush has very good reflexes (the "thrown shoes" video was just shown - President Bush ducked handily).
Hoping the secret service roughed up that asshole.
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:29:08am |
re: #137 debutaunt
Steal?
Sure, ever see a pinata at a kid's birthday party? Ever eat Sushi, or Wontons, or Pizza?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:29:17am |
re: #109 Thanos
There are villages in the Pashtun highlands where the people look Irish - look at Sherpao.
Finally found the name in my files!
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jainphx Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:30:13am |
re: #135 Max Darkside
Ah, That voice is just so, so invigorating to say the least. By the way the scenery in that video is breath takingly beautiful.
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doppelganglander Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:30:37am |
re: #134 Thanos
I haven't researched that one yet, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some whites in asia in prehistory.
So we are in agreement, I think -- white people got around in prehistoric times, and some nutbars are twisting the facts into an argument for white supremacy in the ancient world. I was actually unaware of the Solutreans, but they seem to have a lot of free time on their hands.
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:31:45am |
re: #141 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Finally found the name in my files!
There's also another tribe nearby that speaks Finno-Ugric based language iirc. The loser tribes got pushed into the mountains at various points in that regions history, and there are a lot of strange ethnicities there which you wouldn't expect to find.
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Randall Gross Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:32:52am |
re: #144 doppelganglander
Yep, if you google "solutrean truth" there are a few very ugly sites in the list that will turn up.
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Max Darkside Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:33:19am |
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Pickle Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:51:12am |
re: #74 Thanos
The new White nationalist kookspiracy is "Solutrean truth". Basically the belief that whites were everywhere in the prehistoric world and ruled it until they were wiped out in some areas by Asians/Blacks etc. So when you see stories about "blond haired blued eyed" mummies in S. America and China your kook radar should go on.
I don't know about ancient South American mummies, but the caucasoid Tocharians (and probably-related Tarim Mummies) of Asia were a real, documented people. Unfortunately for the White Supremacists, they were also Buddhists, so I don't know what of their theses the fact of their existence helps. Oh well.
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nyc redneck Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:56:31am |
re: #141 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Finally found the name in my files!
wow, how interesting. these are fascinating people. and such a curious origin, language and customs. i want to know more abt. them. thanks for the post.
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Spare O'Lake Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:58:01am |
re: #140 Thanos
Sure, ever see a pinata at a kid's birthday party? Ever eat Sushi, or Wontons, or Pizza?
Nothing was stolen - most immigrants came with the shirts on their backs. They certainly did not own their recipes. The Chinese food commonly served in North American Chinese restaurants is not authentic Chinese cuisine. It has been so thoroughly Americanized/Canadianized to suit local tastes that it bears little resemblance to the real thing. Have you ever eaten dog, cat or rat?
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itellu3times Sun, Dec 14, 2008 12:00:00pm |
re: #136 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Go to any Mexican restaurant (NOT fast food) and try to find something on the menu that is healthy. Good luck.
You're kidding, right?
[Link: www.laserenataonline.com...]
There's more to Mexican food than tortillas and beans.
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itellu3times Sun, Dec 14, 2008 12:01:45pm |
Still, this video looks wrong to me, far too much immigration shown from Mexico. If it's accurate, it must mean that the "immigrants" mostly went home.
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FrogMarch Sun, Dec 14, 2008 12:05:01pm |
Once Obama and his democrats install Utopian nanny state unionized socialism - American will empty out again.
/I love my ODS!
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locke/demosthenes Sun, Dec 14, 2008 12:07:11pm |
This doesn't look quite right to me. Here are the problems I've noticed so far:
1. No change in immigration from China after Gold Rush starts in 1849.
2. No change in immigration from southeast Asia at end of Vietnam War.
3. No change in immigration from Russia following the end of the cold war.
I am impressed looking at Japan though. No one until the middle of the 19th century and then a steady stream of immigrants after Admiral Perry opened up the place for trade.
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Wide Right Sun, Dec 14, 2008 12:10:07pm |
re: #100 shug
OK, survey time: Shug needs a new phone
Blackberry storm or iPhone.
pros/cons
The iPhone, by a country mile. Absolutely awesome phone. Beautiful interface. Easy to use. Excellent, affordable apps. This is by far the best phone I have ever owned. My wife and son both love theirs, too. There are however, a few cons. Service is AT&T only. Cannot text pictures, yet. Some do not like the virtual keyboard but we don't mind it at all and that is saying a lot, as my son had 3000 texts last month. The Blackberry is a fine phone, to be sure, buy it ain't no Iphone. More like an iPhoney. Good Luck !
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heretic Sun, Dec 14, 2008 12:12:22pm |
I don't suppose there's any reverse graphic out there anywhere that shows outflow of immigration FROM the United States ... say, from Hollywood after every election?
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Joan Sun, Dec 14, 2008 12:43:20pm |
re: #17 winston06
the problem is the stupid and deranged immigration system in the US. The best and the most skilled have to line up while the poor, criminals and gangs can jump the border and mess things up. US immigration system needs a huge reform for the better
Winston 06 so many people have made this comment to me (including my former fiancee, who waited an obscene length of time before getting any progress towards citizenship).
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Spiny Norman Sun, Dec 14, 2008 12:53:25pm |
re: #154 locke/demosthenes
This doesn't look quite right to me. Here are the problems I've noticed so far:
1. No change in immigration from China after Gold Rush starts in 1849.
2. No change in immigration from southeast Asia at end of Vietnam War.
3. No change in immigration from Russia following the end of the cold war.I am impressed looking at Japan though. No one until the middle of the 19th century and then a steady stream of immigrants after Admiral Perry opened up the place for trade.
The video shows 1870-2007. It does not include pre-1870 immigrants (like almost half the population of Ireland).
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Spiny Norman Sun, Dec 14, 2008 12:54:29pm |
I do have one question, though. Why does it look like everyone went to Iowa?
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davinvalkri Sun, Dec 14, 2008 12:57:47pm |
Remember, everyone: the racist U.S. doesn't care about the world!
/really?
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claire Sun, Dec 14, 2008 1:07:58pm |
re: #150 Spare O'Lake
is not authentic Chinese cuisine. It has been so thoroughly Americanized/Canadianized to suit local tastes that it bears little resemblance to the real thing.
I dunno. The food I had in Taiwan was pretty similar to what we get here- some of the sauces were more subtle but that's about it. The Dim Sum was exactly the same. (I have heard some gross things about the food in Mainland China outside of the bigger cities, though.)
That said, the absolute nadir of Chinese cuisine has to be in the UK. Yuck, yuck, yuck- just like canned chow mein- I don't know how they manage it but it especially sucks there. Just hideous. If you are traveling and trying to avoid English cooking, consider yourself warned. (Try Indian or Kabob shops, fabulous.)
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the_flying_pig Sun, Dec 14, 2008 2:05:45pm |
Look like a black hole sucking up everyone that's human but the lands.
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SlartyBartfast Sun, Dec 14, 2008 2:08:05pm |
re: #153 FrogMarch
Once Obama and his democrats install Utopian nanny state unionized socialism - American will empty out again.
/I love my ODS!
My first thought was, "What's going to happen once Mr. Obama enhances our image in the world!" Just think of all the immigrants wanting in! Wasn't that exactly what this country needed? (Change!)
The editor-in-chief of The Washington Monthly summed up the naive leftist view of how to fix things:
America also faces an overwhelming foreign policy need: to reclaim our good name, and with it some measure of the power we've lost. As Kenneth Ballen writes in this issue ("Bin Laden's Soft Support"), the quickest and easiest way to enhance our image overseas, even among the world's most alienated Muslims, would be a massive campaign of humanitarian aid delivered not by faceless agencies but by Americans themselves, be they from the military, the Peace Corps, or some other entity yet to be created.
Yes! A few bags of flour will surely bring an end to Jihad!
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Paul Sun, Dec 14, 2008 2:44:39pm |
When I was a student in the 60s I remember news stories about the population of the United States reaching 200,000,000; it took about 350 years to reach that level. Forty years later we've climbed to 300,000,000 and should top 400,000,000 by 2050 (if not sooner). I can only wonder as to how much is too much.
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Shay4l Sun, Dec 14, 2008 2:49:31pm |
re: #165 Paul
When I was a student in the 60s I remember news stories about the population of the United States reaching 200,000,000; it took about 350 years to reach that level. Forty years later we've climbed to 300,000,000 and should top 400,000,000 by 2050 (if not sooner). I can only wonder as to how much is too much.
It's already too much
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FrogMarch Sun, Dec 14, 2008 2:55:27pm |
re: #164 SlartyBartfast
Yes! A few bags of flour will surely bring an end to Jihad!
That is so typical (and so tired) and so entirely ridiculous --it hurts.
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USBeast Sun, Dec 14, 2008 4:43:13pm |
"Give me your tired, your poor..."
Your muddled asses yearning to breed free...
(With apologies to Emma Lazarus)
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Throbert McGee Sun, Dec 14, 2008 5:55:49pm |
re: #32 Killgore Trout
Are we really getting more Australians than Russians? Interesting.
If you look at the color key, the purple dots depicted as originating in Australia and New Zealand actually stand for "Oceania" -- which, depending on whom you ask, is often understood to include Papua New Guinea, Fiji, Indonesia, and other island nations of the South Pacific, along with Australia and NZ.
But even so, the relatively large number of purple dots is surprising.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Dec 14, 2008 6:13:18pm |
And speaking of the map's color coding: note that the green dots stand for "North America" -- which in this case is defined as everything from Canada to Panama, including the Caribbean island nations.
So the green influx consists of a ginormous number of Spanish speakers, but also a smaller number of English speakers from Canada and anglophone Caribbean nations such as Jamaica, along with some speakers of Haitian Kreyol and other "minor" languages represented in the region.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Dec 14, 2008 7:45:15pm |
re: #164 SlartyBartfast
Yes! A few bags of flour will surely bring an end to Jihad!
Leftists cannot conceive of things outside their 19th century "workers revolt" Marxist template.
Does. Not. Compute.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Dec 14, 2008 7:46:12pm |
re: #172 Throbert McGee
If you look at the color key, the purple dots depicted as originating in Australia and New Zealand actually stand for "Oceania" -- which, depending on whom you ask, is often understood to include Papua New Guinea, Fiji, Indonesia, and other island nations of the South Pacific, along with Australia and NZ.
But even so, the relatively large number of purple dots is surprising.
Well, there ARE a lot of Samoans in SoCal.
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Dom Sun, Dec 14, 2008 9:27:20pm |
re: #100 shug
shug, the Blackberry's fine if you want constant access to e-mails and the web and to be synchronising diary across various devices, but once you get over the thrill of your new phone its quite a wide handset with very fiddly keys and a screen that isn't very satisfying to browse in. It isn't particularly overspec'd and complicated or anything. Just not a great deal of fun either
I don't know about the i-Phone.
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Seax Sun, Dec 14, 2008 9:40:03pm |
Despite what the left says...America IS the land of the FREE.
And that's why people go there to live.
Never seen massive immigration to any of the "worker's paradises"
of the world...never will .
Once asked a local commie why he didn't immigrate to
what was then known as the Soviet Union...he just
kind of turned green and walked away.
Reminds me of the Berlin Wall...which way were people jumping?
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