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Open | Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:31:17 pm PST

Everybody’s in despair,
Every girl and boy
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here,
Everybody’s gonna jump for joy.

Bob Dylan

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1 Old Engineer  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:34:27pm

I have no special comment, but wish all readers well, and God be with you and yours in this season of joy as well as sorrow.
Old Engineer

2 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:36:33pm

re: #1 Old Engineer

And all the best to you and yours!

3 Silvergirl  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:38:43pm

re: #1 Old Engineer

I have no special comment, but wish all readers well, and God be with you and yours in this season of joy as well as sorrow.
Old Engineer

As Dickens said: It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.

4 davinvalkri  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:40:50pm

Where is everybody?
Asleep, doy.
Oh well.
Good night everybody.

5 stevieray  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:42:46pm

re: #1 Old Engineer

I have no special comment, but wish all readers well, and God be with you and yours in this season of joy as well as sorrow.
Old Engineer

That comment is special enough. Peace and joy to you and yours!

6 Bobibutu  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:43:33pm

Good night all and weet dreams.

7 gmsc  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:44:16pm

Since this was so late in the previous thread, and it works better here:

Today is December 15th, so . . .

Helen Slater turns 43
Don Johnson turns 59
Melanie Chartoff turns 60
Thaao Penghlis (You know him as either Count Tony DiMera on Days of Our Lives, or as Nicholas Black from the '80s revival of Mission: Impossible) turns 63
Tim Conway turns 75
Freeman Dyson turns 85
Noted Brazilian architect Oscar Niemeyer turns 101 today!

38 years ago today, the 4th version of the Illinois State Constitution was adopted (Apparently the first 3 weren't corrupt enough for Illinois ;).
47 years ago today, Adolph Eichmann was sentenced to death for his war crimes.
69 years ago today, Gone With The Wind premiered at Loew's Grand Theater in Atlanta, GA.
217 years ago today, Virginia ratified the Bill of Rights, officially making the Bill of Rights law.

Also, the electoral college meets today to vote on the President and Vice President. (U.S. Constitution Bill of Rights: December 15, 1791 - December 15, 2008?)

8 gmsc  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:44:26pm

re: #6 Bobibutu

Good night all and weet dreams.

'Night, Bobibutu!

9 Pietr  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:45:06pm

re: #1 Old Engineer

May you and yours have peace and happiness.

10 Pietr  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:47:37pm

re: #8 gmsc

After I signed off earlier today-did you manage to further the 'perpetual motion' machine using Murphys Law (sub law, 21 IIRC)?

11 Silvergirl  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:47:40pm

re: #7 gmsc

I don't know much about Brazilian architecture, but I applaud Oscar Niemeyer for making 101 years, though I haven't heard of him before now.

Tim Conway 75? Truly?

12 Fearless Fred  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:51:03pm
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here,
Everybody’s gonna jump for joy.

— Bob Dylan


Comic book colors on a violin river cryin leonardo,
Words from out a silk trombone.
I rang a silent bell, beneath a shower of pearls,
In the eagle-winged palace of the queen chinee.

13 gmsc  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:53:55pm

re: #10 Pietr

After I signed off earlier today-did you manage to further the 'perpetual motion' machine using Murphys Law (sub law, 21 IIRC)?

No progress, yet, but I'm trying to see if anything in Popular Science can help.

14 gmsc  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:57:37pm

re: #11 Silvergirl

I don't know much about Brazilian architecture, but I applaud Oscar Niemeyer for making 101 years, though I haven't heard of him before now.

Tim Conway 75? Truly?

As for Oscar Niemeyer, he's very well known in the field of architecture. Here are some of his AMAZING buildings!

Yep - Tin Conway is truly 75!

15 Fearless Fred  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:57:38pm

re: #7 gmsc
yep . . .

re: #56 gmsc

Today in Dead History (Dec 15) ~~~
Concerts Played on Dec 15

1971 (Wed) Hill Auditorium, Ann Arbor, MI
Bertha, Bobby McGee, Mr. Charlie, China> Rider, BIODTL, Hurts Me Too, Cumberland, Jack Straw, You Win Again, Run Rudolph, Playin', BE Women, Mexicali, Big RR, Brokedown, El Paso, Casey Jones

1972 (Fri) Arena, Long Beach, CA
B. T. Wind Box Of Rain Greatest Jack Straw Playin
He's Gone Truckin Other One Dark Star Morning Dew Johnny B. Goode

1978 (Fri) Boutwell Auditorium, Birmingham, AL
Set 1:Promised Shakedown Street Minglewood FOTD El Paso From the Heart Of Me B. E. Women Cassidy Deal
Set 2:Miracle Bertha Good Lovin Roses Terrapin Playin Drumz Stella Blue Truckin Playin U. S. Blues

1986 (Mon) Oakland-Alemeda County Coliseum, Oakland, CA
Set 1:Touch, C. C. Rider, Push, BIODTL> Greatest, Loser,Cassidy, Althea, Esau, Candyman, Let It Grow
Set 2:Iko Iko, L. L. Rain, Black Muddy River, Playin> Terrapin> Drumz> Truckin> Wharf Rat> Playin> Good Lovin Johnny B. Goode
*(first "Push" - first "Black Muddy River")*

1994 (Thu) Sports Arena, Los Angeles, CA
Set 1:Shakedown, Wang Dang Doodle, Lazy River Road, Me & My Uncle@> Mexicali@, Row Jimmy, Promised
Set 2:Foolish Heart, Way To Go, Corinna> Uncle John> Jam> Drumz>Last Time> Morning Dew Liberty
*(Bob Weir played acoustic guitar during "Space" - @ Bobby on acoustic guitar)*

16 Ps2  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:57:55pm

Chicago Trib forced the cutting short of the Chicago corruption investigation

The Real Story Behind the Rushed Blagojevich Bust: How the Feds Are Frustrated by Losing (Maybe) Half of Their Case

Cam Simpson reports on the Rod Blagojevich case in Chicago.

Conventional wisdom holds that U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald ordered the FBI to arrest Rod Blagojevich before sunrise Tuesday in order to stop a crime from being committed. That would have been the sale of the Senate seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama.

But the opposite is true: Members of Fitzgerald’s team are livid the scheme didn’t advance, at least for a little longer, according to some people close to Fitzgerald’s office. Why? Because had the plot unfolded, they might have had an opportunity most feds can only dream of: A chance to catch the sale of a Senate seat on tape, including the sellers and the buyers.

The precise timing of Tuesday’s dramatic, pre-dawn arrest was not dictated by Fitzgerald, nor was it dictated by the pace of Blagojevich’s alleged “crime spree.” It was dictated by the Chicago Tribune, according to people close to the investigation and a careful reading of the FBI’s affidavit in the case.

At Fitzgerald’s request, the paper had been holding back a story since October detailing how a confidante of Blagojevich was cooperating with his office.

Gerould Kern, the Tribune’s editor, said in a statement last week that these requests are granted in what he called isolated instances. “In each case, we strive to make the right decision as reporters and as citizens,” he said.

But editors decided to publish the story on Friday, Dec. 5, ending the Tribune’s own cooperation deal with the prosecutor.

Consider what had been dangling in front of FBI agents and federal prosecutors one day earlier.

Since at least late October, agents had been listening through their headphones to Blagojevich allegedly dream and scheme about a host of potential prizes he could win for the Senate seat, including everything from an ambassadorship to a corporate board slot for his wife. But on Thursday, Dec. 4, he was talking about cash. And a politician talking about trading an official act for cash is a very welcome sound to the ears of an eavesdropping fed. In addition, the Dec. 4 conversation appears to have been the first substantive chat about allegedly selling the seat since Nov. 13.

But on Dec. 4, according to the feds, here’s what they heard: Blagojevich told an adviser he was giving “greater consideration” to one pick for the Senate seat, named “Senate Candidate 5″ by the feds, because of that politician’s willingness to raise money. That man has since been identified as U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., the Chicago Democrat affectionately known in his hometown as Triple J.

Jackson has denied any involvement in such schemes and says he never authorized anyone to deal in such a manner on his behalf. He also said Fitzgerald’s office informed him that he’s not a target in the investigation.

Perhaps even more encouraging to the feds listening in on Dec. 4 was what they knew about the first time such a deal was discussed. About a month earlier, Blagojevich was caught on tape describing an approach by an alleged associate of Jackson. Blagojevich’s now-infamous quote about that meeting had been tantalizing. “We were approached ‘pay to play.’ That, you know, he’d raise me 500 grand. An emissary came. Then the other guy would raise a million, if I made him (Senate Candidate 5) a Senator.”

read the rest

[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]

17 Silvergirl  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:57:58pm

G'night all. Ducking out before the fruit cup arrives. I don't know what it is and don't know what to do with it!

18 stevieray  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:00:40am

re: #14 gmsc

As for Oscar Niemeyer, he's very well known in the field of architecture. Here are some of his AMAZING buildings!

Yep - Tin Conway is truly 75!

Oscar Niemayer? Feh. He's a weiner!

/sorry 'bout that, folks

19 Silvergirl  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:00:51am

re: #14 gmsc

As for Oscar Niemeyer, he's very well known in the field of architecture. Here are some of his AMAZING buildings!

Yep - Tin Conway is truly 75!

It looks like smoking didn't slow him down much. What a space ship building that he put out on that cliff.

Good night really and truly.

20 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:01:24am

you've not seen nothing like the mighty Quinn.....

/my vote for Bob's best song......


(especially since most of them were overwrought and over hyped. %-)

/white smoke

21 Fearless Fred  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:02:07am

re: #14 gmsc

As for Oscar Niemeyer, he's very well known in the field of architecture. Here are some of his AMAZING buildings!

Truly amazing! beautiful.
Look at the pics while listening to this .... birdsong.

22 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:05:10am

re: #21 Fearless Fred

Truly amazing! beautiful.
Look at the pics while listening to this .... birdsong.

He's 101 - I'm thinking "Touch of Grey" might be more appropriate.
;)

23 Fearless Fred  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:07:27am

re: #20 redc1c4

you've not seen nothing like the mighty Quinn.....

/my vote for Bob's best song......

Bob who?

24 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:08:08am

re: #16 Ps2

fits my suspicions as to the sudden blow up of "OH: look what's happening.... who ever would have thought that?......"

the media fix is in.

/as always....

25 Fearless Fred  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:08:26am

re: #22 gmsc

haha, lol .... maybe

26 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:10:04am

re: #23 Fearless Fred

Bob who?

Winterland where?

27 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:14:03am

re: #24 redc1c4

fits my suspicions as to the sudden blow up of "OH: look what's happening.... who ever would have thought that?......"

the media fix is in.

/as always....

I've been thinking to myself- now why would the media cover this scandal? Seems to me that if Chicago is such a hotbed of corruption, which it is, why wouldn't the local media rise to their (supposedly) noble professional ideals and investigate and bring the corruption down? The only thing I can think of to explain it is an equal level of journalistic corruption in Chicago. Or perhaps journalistic corruption is more widespread....

28 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:14:53am

Nachos and CHEEEESE,

Wait.....thinking......Maybe some avocado and some TABASCO....no too hot for this thread....damn...maybe.....milk-cheese and some....counting posts in my head......now way past what was where I was even going to post...............pass!

29 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:15:29am

re: #11 Silvergirl

I don't know much about Brazilian architecture, but I applaud Oscar Niemeyer for making 101 years, though I haven't heard of him before now.

Tim Conway 75? Truly?

You never heard of the Oscar Niemeyer Weiner?

/flees

30 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:16:31am

re: #28 Nightwatch

Nachos and CHEEEESE,

Wait.....thinking......Maybe some avocado and some TABASCO....no too hot for this thread....damn...maybe.....milk-cheese and some....counting posts in my head......now way past what was where I was even going to post...............pass!

Willie Pete in with the nachoes & queso.....

eat up!

/frag out!

31 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:17:45am

re: #29 SurferDoc

You never heard of the Oscar Niemeyer Weiner?

/flees

32 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:18:46am

re: #30 redc1c4


Ya put up lights in the front yard at least?

33 Fearless Fred  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:19:24am

re: #26 redc1c4

Winterland where?


more than a touch -----


Sweet dreams .... climbin' in to the rack.

Peace and love . . .

34 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:19:26am

Attention all LNDT hands!

Pants Check!

report results by section to Surfer Doc.

35 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:19:43am

re: #30 redc1c4

Now that's a hot queso-not sure what bowl would hold it tho.
/white smoke.

36 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:20:12am

re: #27 Sharmuta

I've been thinking to myself- now why would the media cover this scandal? Seems to me that if Chicago is such a hotbed of corruption, which it is, why wouldn't the local media rise to their (supposedly) noble professional ideals and investigate and bring the corruption down? The only thing I can think of to explain it is an equal level of journalistic corruption in Chicago. Or perhaps journalistic corruption is more widespread....

In other words, my fine fellow Lizards- the media is part of the problem.

Not that it's news to anyone here, but don't let any media mobys convince you otherwise. Spews as much garbage as the NYT, it does.

37 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:21:16am

*moons redc1c4*

38 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:21:28am

re: #34 redc1c4

Attention all LNDT hands!

Pants Check!

report results by section to Surfer Doc.

Pants? You mean the verb?

/White smoke

39 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:21:57am

re: #34 redc1c4


MERCY! CALL THE HAZ-MAT....CALL THE HAZ-MAT!

40 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:22:51am

re: #32 Nightwatch

Ya put up lights in the front yard at least?

i put the sub lights out 300 meters or so out, and backlight to me, so that they serve as range markers and aiming points.......

they're in the dark, i'm not.

11B.

41 Fearless Fred  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:23:07am

re: #27 Sharmuta

At least you're asking the right question.
It's a really good question.

42 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:23:14am

re: #36 Sharmuta

Or that in their rush to publish-nothing is too secret, or important to security, that it'll stop their attempt at a Pulitzer.

43 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:24:20am

re: #40 redc1c4


DUDE!

Most sitrep....but tis the season....

44 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:24:53am

re: #37 SurferDoc

*moons redc1c4*

and here i thought it was a full moon.......

i guess deflation has taken it's toll.

45 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:27:40am

It's...um...fruit. And you eat it.

/unless it's red-enhanced.
//in which case you inject it....

46 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:28:34am

re: #42 Pietr The rush to publish against the Bush admin may have been what you say I doubt however any wrong Obama does will be exposed by the media. His failures will be attributed to bush and any lasting effects in Iraq from Bush's presidency will be attributed to Obama. For evidence of this look at how many democrat scandals leave out political parties while making excuses for the Perpetrator, whereas any republican who steps the slightest out of line recieves more airtime than Obama bought to get elected.

47 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:28:40am

re: #43 Nightwatch

DUDE!

Most sitrep....but tis the season....

'tis *always* the season.......

kill something every day, no matter how small, in order to maintain tactical proficiency.

have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

48 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:30:09am

re: #45 littleoldlady

Most awesome,

Want the Holiday fruit-cup with the dingle-berrys.. :0

49 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:30:17am

re: #45 littleoldlady

It's...um...fruit. And you eat it.

/unless it's red-enhanced.
//in which case you inject it....

You also ding it.

/littleoldlady- too nice to tell ya to ding the fruitcup, but I'm not

50 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:30:36am

re: #37 SurferDoc

*moons redc1c4*

/flash bang into your cubicle

(free hemorrhoid cure in the process! %-)

51 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:31:47am

I asked my Magic 8-ball "Will i be miserable the next 4 years?" Reply was "Most likely."

52 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:32:10am

re: #50 redc1c4

/flash bang into your cubicle

(free hemorrhoid cure in the process! %-)

LOL! *Reaches for fire extinguisher and Preparation H*

53 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:32:14am

re: #47 redc1c4


Range time in the snow always throws off your score....unless you live there!

54 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:32:38am

re: #50 redc1c4
Wouldn't that actually cause a flare up red?

55 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:33:11am

re: #45 littleoldlady

It's...um...fruit. And you eat it.

/unless it's red-enhanced.
//in which case you inject it....

and/or eat it/drink it/smoke it/wear it........

we strive to enhance our customer's experience by ensuring their 'fruitcup' experience exceeds their regular "on line" expectation......

/white smoke

56 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:34:00am

re: #49 Sharmuta

You also ding it.

/littleoldlady- too nice to tell ya to ding the fruitcup, but I'm not

arewe supposed to ding LoL too?

/white smoke

57 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:34:45am

re: #48 Nightwatch

Dingle berry?

Sharmuta,

Ah, but I have the most awesome avatar... ;-)

© Sharmuta

58 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:35:11am

re: #56 redc1c4

A thumbs up, but no dings on the fruitcupmobile. Auto body repair isn't cheap.

59 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:35:21am

re: #49 Sharmuta

You also ding it.

/littleoldlady- too nice to tell ya to ding the fruitcup, but I'm not

Ding the board in time for fruitcup!
Fa la la la, la la la la!

60 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:35:59am

re: #51 rancher

Stocked up on some almond wood for the next few days. Could be very cold for this time of year. Some are saying a 50 year cold cycle is kicking in about now..

61 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:36:40am

re: #59 gmsc

Ding the board in time for fruitcup!
Fa la la la, la la la la!

If it's red's, then you can shoot up!
Fa la la la, la la la la!

62 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:37:11am

re: #60 Nightwatch Yeah but its just proving global warming exists.

63 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:38:10am

re: #62 rancher

Beat me to it.....Aargh.

64 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:38:54am

I kinda wonder if those Ice mass charts Walter found accidentally reverted back to September again.

65 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:39:22am
66 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:40:12am

re: #62 rancher

Can I SNARK? Or would the Gore-ical be rage-a-maging?

67 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:41:23am

re: #57 littleoldlady

I'm so glad you like it- I love it myself. I told NY Nana to look at it, and she got a chuckle out of it too.

And red- of course you ding the fruitcup. I'd ding you too, but you never give me the chance.

68 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:43:29am

re: #67 Sharmuta

Yeah. By the time I finish red's fruitcup I don't know what "ding" is.

/or fruitcup, for that matter...

69 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:43:55am

re: #68 littleoldlady

Yeah. By the time I finish red's fruitcup I don't know what "ding" is.

/or fruitcup, for that matter...

That's the best part! ;p

70 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:44:01am

re: #60 Nightwatch

Is almond wood a hard wood? Or is it burnt for fragrance? Many years ago, when I was a boy scout, we found a downed locustwood (IIRC) tree. Got a 2 man crosscut saw, and cut it up some (took forever); then split sections for firewood. Talk about being prepared-that night the temps dropped into the 30's, and we were bunking in 3 sided adirondack huts. That hardwood kept us semi-comfortable, and needed little replenishing.

71 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:46:32am

re: #63 Pietr

Beat me to it.....Aargh.

You're not trying to drag pirates into this are you? ;)

72 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:48:09am

re: #67 Sharmuta

I'm so glad you like it- I love it myself. I told NY Nana to look at it, and she got a chuckle out of it too.

And red- of course you ding the fruitcup. I'd ding you too, but you never give me the chance.

i'd cheerfully ding you, but that would ruin you for normal men......and then where would we be?

/white smoke

73 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:48:12am

re: #68 littleoldlady

Yeah. By the time I finish red's fruitcup I don't know what "ding" is.

/or fruitcup, for that matter...

Related to that, here's a Google search for: +ding +"fruit cup"

The results are somewhat interesting - try the Google Image Search!

74 Spiritualized  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:49:53am

Will Honda save us from the Saudis/Islam?

Top Gear - Honda FCX Clarity - hydrogen fuel cell powered car

75 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:50:35am

re: #73 gmsc

Chicken and fruitcup?

/okay
//I guess
;-)

76 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:51:07am

re: #70 Pietr

To reply,
Almond wood burns hot and gives a semi-sweet smoke Little compared to the more lusty woods like Oak. There are other woods that burn way too fast and leave piles of ash by comparison....but my opinion..:)

77 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:11am

re: #70 Pietr

Is almond wood a hard wood? Or is it burnt for fragrance? Many years ago, when I was a boy scout, we found a downed locustwood (IIRC) tree. Got a 2 man crosscut saw, and cut it up some (took forever); then split sections for firewood. Talk about being prepared-that night the temps dropped into the 30's, and we were bunking in 3 sided adirondack huts. That hardwood kept us semi-comfortable, and needed little replenishing.

almond is a hard wood, and it should be burned to cook BBQ.....like oak, pecan, etc..... burn gas to stay warm.

78 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:21am

re: #74 Spiritualized

"We're sorry, this video is no longer available."

/that's what it say, Spirit

79 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:22am

re: #71 Sharmuta

Wasn't intending to-you opened it-but (IIRC) the UN has (GASP) given permission for hitting them on the ground in Somalia. I'm betting if we. or anyone else does, there'll be a hue and cry about innocent civilians being hit instead. The world media seems to idolize evil, while demonizing those who fight it-and you have to wonder what is their problem.

80 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:32am

re: #75 littleoldlady

Chicken and fruitcup?

/okay
//I guess
;-)

If they're Wing-Dings!

Hey, does this sound familiar?

“She was reet,
Discrete,
She was a real treat,
Little Old Lady…
Keep it neat,
where the elite
meet Little Old Lady
Never seemed to quite run dry
Fruit cup ne’er in short supply
She’s Ad Libbing on the fly,
Little
Old Lady…
No elite meat
with the Fruit Cup Suite
Always a Lady
don’t let it get shady…
In the morning,
right at TWO
There’s one for me
and more for you,
and all the rest,
Little Old Lady!”

81 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:32am

re: #72 redc1c4

You are a brutal tease.

82 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:40am

re: #70 Pietr
If I remember right it's a fairly hard wood and burns well. On top of having a pleasant smell.

83 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:55am

re: #73 gmsc

Related to that, here's a Google search for: +ding +"fruit cup"

The results are somewhat interesting - try the Google Image Search!

LMAO! I loved this one.

84 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:55am

re: #78 Karridine

"We're sorry, this video is no longer available."

/that's what it say, Spirit

conspiracy!

85 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:55:49am

Damn, I am going to miss Dick Cheney.

86 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:56:21am

re: #84 gmsc

Hey, GMSC! THANKS for posting that link to some nearly-unknown celebrity singer... he must be a Cult Hero, of sorts... :D

87 Spiritualized  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:56:51am

re: #78 Karridine

"We're sorry, this video is no longer available."

/that's what it say, Spirit

Hmm, maybe it hasn't propagated through YouTube yet, the show itself was only broadcast last night so the clip is very recent. Try this one -Top Gear- James May- The Future of motoring (Honda FCX Clarity Hydrogen)

88 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:57:14am

re: #86 Karridine

Hey, GMSC! THANKS for posting that link to some nearly-unknown celebrity singer... he must be a Cult Hero, of sorts... :D

...and apparently he's modest, too!

89 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:58:15am

re: #74 Spiritualized

FABULOUS!
/what's the downside?

90 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:00:17am

re: #80 gmsc

Oh yeah! :-)

Karridine! :-)

91 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:01:03am

re: #87 Spiritualized

Hmm, maybe it hasn't propagated through YouTube yet, the show itself was only broadcast last night so the clip is very recent. Try this one -Top Gear- James May- The Future of motoring (Honda FCX Clarity Hydrogen)

That's an interesting video.

/Especially if you set it into a loop from 2:20 to 2:27 ;)

92 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:02:06am

BBIAB updating computer here at work.

93 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:04:48am

re: #81 Sharmuta

You are a brutal tease.

that's a truly harsh toke......

but at least we will always have Paris. %-)

/white smoke

94 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:07:54am
95 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:07:56am

Why do Californians get that car, but the rest of America is denied?

And wouldn't adding more water to the air increase the most common greenhouse gas- water vapor?

Don't forget, the largest contributor of CO2 is the ocean.

BAN THE OCEAN!

96 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:10:10am

I am really angry today. The stupid Australian Labor government is finally going ahead with it's ideologically based Carbon Emissions Trading Scheme. This is going to cost jobs and put up electricity prices. Even with the compensation in the plan for pensioners and low-income wage earners it is still going to be a net loss for Australians.

Even if (and that's a huge IF) global warming is true AND CHINA AND INDIA DO NOT FOLLOW it is a waste of time and effort.

If Australia were to disappear tomorrow the growth of China IN NINE MONTHS would be enough to fill the gap left.

And all this in a time of economic downturn. Really smart!

Sorry for the rant.

97 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:10:14am

re: #94 gmsc

I'm famous! ;-)

98 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:10:42am

re: #95 Sharmuta

Why do Californians get that car, but the rest of America is denied?

And wouldn't adding more water to the air increase the most common greenhouse gas- water vapor?

Don't forget, the largest contributor of CO2 is the ocean.

BAN THE OCEAN!

You forget - CO2 is only evil when it's produced by someone that you can tax!

Studies show that the threat of anthropogenic global warming caused by CO2 could be completely eliminated if everyone who believed in it would simply stop exhaling.

99 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:11:23am

re: #97 littleoldlady

I'm famous! ;-)

You must be!

100 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:12:04am

My boss bought a book for me for my birthday, "The Reagan I Knew", by William F. Buckley Jr.

Is it a good read?

101 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:13:03am

re: #100 TheMatrix31

My boss bought a book for me for my birthday, "The Reagan I Knew", by William F. Buckley Jr.

Is it a good read?

Haven't read it, but it's about Reagan written by Buckley. Odds are, it's fantastic.

102 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:13:29am

re: #99 gmsc

You must be!

you left out "fabulous"

103 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:13:59am

re: #98 gmsc

Not to mention, methane and cow flatulence! Wonder if Beano would work on cows?

104 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:14:27am

Only reason I ask is that I'm not much of a reader, but obviously I'm into politics. In the card, he wrote "Kick back, make yourself a drink, and read this."

Maybe I'll do that!

105 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:14:55am

re: #100 TheMatrix31

My boss bought a book for me for my birthday, "The Reagan I Knew", by William F. Buckley Jr.

Is it a good read?

your boss bought you a book? that's likely grounds for a lawsuit.....

/go for the $$$$!
white smoke

106 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:16:15am

re: #105 redc1c4

your boss bought you a book? that's likely grounds for a lawsuit.....

/go for the $$$$!
white smoke

Ya right, he has no money. Baskin-Robbins is a worthless entity nowadays, and the corporation is run terribly. I've been telling him for 2 years now to sell his store.

107 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:16:26am

re: #104 TheMatrix31

And how was the birthday, Kiddo?

108 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:16:31am

re: #104 TheMatrix31

Only reason I ask is that I'm not much of a reader, but obviously I'm into politics. In the card, he wrote "Kick back, make yourself a drink, and read this."

Maybe I'll do that!

harassment suit in progress.....

either that or it's a cheap pick up trick.

109 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:18:09am

re: #96 Crux Australis

I am really angry today. The stupid Australian Labor government is finally going ahead with it's ideologically based Carbon Emissions Trading Scheme. This is going to cost jobs and put up electricity prices. Even with the compensation in the plan for pensioners and low-income wage earners it is still going to be a net loss for Australians.

Even if (and that's a huge IF) global warming is true AND CHINA AND INDIA DO NOT FOLLOW it is a waste of time and effort.

If Australia were to disappear tomorrow the growth of China IN NINE MONTHS would be enough to fill the gap left.

And all this in a time of economic downturn. Really smart!

Sorry for the rant.

Tim Blair has an interesting round up of the reactions already.

110 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:18:28am

re: #107 Sharmuta

And how was the birthday, Kiddo?

It was alright. Steakhouse was excellent, bar was pretty worthless. I definitely enjoyed the food more. I guess I'm a bit too mature for the "usual" 21 celebration.

111 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:18:58am

re: #106 TheMatrix31

Ya right, he has no money. Baskin-Robbins is a worthless entity nowadays, and the corporation is run terribly. I've been telling him for 2 years now to sell his store.

bummer: i like BR..... could you please get them to make the Strawberry ice from back in the day?

/white smoke

112 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:20:02am

re: #111 redc1c4

bummer: i like BR..... could you please get them to make the Strawberry ice from back in the day?

/white smoke

Strawberry ice? Like a strawberry sorbet?

113 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:20:28am

re: #110 TheMatrix31

It was alright. Steakhouse was excellent, bar was pretty worthless. I definitely enjoyed the food more. I guess I'm a bit too mature for the "usual" 21 celebration.

You mean you didn't puke? Blasphemy!

114 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:22:18am

re: #87 Spiritualized

THAT link plays, Kiddo! Thankee kindly

115 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:24:20am

re: #110 TheMatrix31

It was alright. Steakhouse was excellent, bar was pretty worthless. I definitely enjoyed the food more. I guess I'm a bit too mature for the "usual" 21 celebration.

I've seen it time and again - people spend much of their teen years trying to sneak drinks, and think they really like drinking.

Then, they turn 21, no one has a problem with them drinking (as long as they don't drive), and the thrill of drinking wears off.

116 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:24:24am

re: #88 gmsc

Truly a MOST HUMBLE person, except when singing about Little Olde Ladye! :D

117 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:24:25am

re: #113 Sharmuta

You mean you didn't puke? Blasphemy!

I threw up a bit after taking one shot. I realized that I can't do shots of alcohol, only mixed drinks that I enjoy. First thing at the bar, my buddy goes up and says "Hey, this guy's turning 21, make him something to get messed up good." Next thing I notice, the bartender is getting a huge bottle of tequila and pouring it into the cup. I LOATHE tequila. I ended up drinking half the drink then gave it away. Ended up getting a kamikaze shot and a kamikaze drink and the shot didn't go so well. After that, I finished my drink and had like two more kamikaze drinks. I was buzzing but nothing spectacular.

118 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:25:04am

re: #115 gmsc

I've seen it time and again - people spend much of their teen years trying to sneak drinks, and think they really like drinking.

Then, they turn 21, no one has a problem with them drinking (as long as they don't drive), and the thrill of drinking wears off.

Meh, I never thought it was a big deal, trust me. I'm a food person. I'd rather have a plate of fries than have a drunken night out.

119 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:26:58am

re: #96 Crux Australis

I am really angry today. The stupid Australian Labor government is finally going ahead with it's ideologically based Carbon Emissions Trading Scheme. This is going to cost jobs and put up electricity prices. Even with the compensation in the plan for pensioners and low-income wage earners it is still going to be a net loss for Australians.

Even if (and that's a huge IF) global warming is true AND CHINA AND INDIA DO NOT FOLLOW it is a waste of time and effort.

If Australia were to disappear tomorrow the growth of China IN NINE MONTHS would be enough to fill the gap left.

And all this in a time of economic downturn. Really smart!

Sorry for the rant.

Hi Crux morning Lizards. With Stuart Clarke being out do to injury that must really ruin the rest of your day. Who is Peter Siddle? Never heard of him. Do you guys rate him as a good replacement?

120 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:27:43am

re: #112 TheMatrix31

Strawberry ice? Like a strawberry sorbet?

naw.... this was pretty much just strawberry pieces and water.....think lightly diced strawberries churned to a sherbet/sorbet consistency.

121 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:29:02am

re: #120 redc1c4

naw.... this was pretty much just strawberry pieces and water.....think lightly diced strawberries churned to a sherbet/sorbet consistency.

Hmm....interesting. The closest thing we have to that is our strawberry sorbet, which basically tastes like frozen strawberry puree with chunks of strawberry in there. No dairy.

122 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:32:44am

re: #118 TheMatrix31

Meh, I never thought it was a big deal, trust me. I'm a food person. I'd rather have a plate of fries than have a drunken night out.

Oh - you're 21 now, so we can tell you the secret ways of ordering fries at In 'N Out Burger:

Fries "Light" - Decreased cooking time for a softer product.
Fries "Well" - Increased cooking time for a crispier product.
Fries "No Boat" - Fries are placed directly onto the serving tray instead of the paper "boat".
"Animal Style" - Cheese, spread, and grilled onions.
Cheese fries - called fries with cheese

123 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:33:49am

re: #121 TheMatrix31

Hmm....interesting. The closest thing we have to that is our strawberry sorbet, which basically tastes like frozen strawberry puree with chunks of strawberry in there. No dairy.

this was an item back when i was young and had a future: early/mid 70's....

they don't make it anymore, near as i can tell.

124 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:34:36am

*starting to get nervous about fruitcup*

125 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:36:30am

re: #122 gmsc

Oh - you're 21 now, so we can tell you the secret ways of ordering fries at In 'N Out Burger:

Fries "Light" - Decreased cooking time for a softer product.
Fries "Well" - Increased cooking time for a crispier product.
Fries "No Boat" - Fries are placed directly onto the serving tray instead of the paper "boat".
"Animal Style" - Cheese, spread, and grilled onions.
Cheese fries - called fries with cheese

I could go for some In-N-Out at the moment, even though we had the world's amount of food tonight.

Tornado warning in Santa Barbara...wtf?

126 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:36:46am

re: #124 Sharmuta

*starting to get nervous about fruitcup*

Hysteria, When You're Near

127 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:37:22am

re: #124 Sharmuta

I don't blame you...

I ALMOST FELL ASLEEP!

128 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:38:47am

re: #127 littleoldlady

I don't blame you...

I ALMOST FELL ASLEEP!

We should all be glad that this guy isn't in charge of fruitcup!

129 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:38:58am

re: #127 littleoldlady

I was thinking red and Matrix were going to do some weird puree thing.

130 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:41:03am

re: #91 gmsc

That's an interesting video.

/Especially if you set it into a loop from 2:20 to 2:27 ;)

VERY INTERESTING! Dang, GmSc, I truly hope this Honda is pointing the way for the next decade! Today California, tomorrow all America, THEN the Oil Emirates can suck hydrogen day in and day out, with my blessings!

136HP, and its NOT a '...plastic snot-box...'

131 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:41:30am

re: #129 Sharmuta

I was thinking red and Matrix were going to do some weird puree thing.

With fruitcup & fries?

132 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:41:40am

re: #122 gmsc

Oh - you're 21 now, so we can tell you the secret ways of ordering fries at In 'N Out Burger:

Fries "Light" - Decreased cooking time for a softer product.
Fries "Well" - Increased cooking time for a crispier product.
Fries "No Boat" - Fries are placed directly onto the serving tray instead of the paper "boat".
"Animal Style" - Cheese, spread, and grilled onions.
Cheese fries - called fries with cheese

shit..... now i'm hongree!

133 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:42:56am

re: #128 gmsc

Could be worse...

/yeowch! painful!

134 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:43:01am

re: #132 redc1c4

shit..... now i'm hongree!

We've got fruitcup in 20 minutes, but I don't know if it comes "Animal Style".

135 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:43:18am

re: #132 redc1c4

Serves you right, Red!

136 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:43:29am

re: #131 gmsc

With fruitcup & fries?

and a frag on the side....

137 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:44:41am

re: #134 gmsc

We've got fruitcup in 20 minutes, but I don't know if it comes "Animal Style".

Fruitcup 'Animal Style' is with pickled onions, tamarinds, small chunks of candied ginger and dill-green-peppers.... Mmmm, yumm!

138 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:45:02am

re: #135 Karridine

Serves you right, Red!

easy for yo to say: you can't even get my name right.....

red

139 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:46:45am

re: #133 littleoldlady

Could be worse...

/yeowch! painful!

Have you seen this version of their Christmas Song?

140 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:47:45am

re: #138 redc1c4

Red Butler?

reD Batry?

rEd Wozzisname of the Fantastic Fore?

/... I better apolomogize before I utterly destroy a once-profound friendship...

141 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:48:17am

re: #139 gmsc

MY FAVORITE CHRISTMAS SONG!

142 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:48:31am
143 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:49:49am

re: #137 Karridine

Fruitcup 'Animal Style' is with pickled onions, tamarinds, small chunks of candied ginger and dill-green-peppers.... Mmmm, yumm!

sounds like you just want a "PickaPeppa" fruitcup......

you will have to talk with the legal team and determine your next move in achieving your goal.

144 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:50:01am

re: #139 gmsc

What's the movie called?

/netflix, here I come!

145 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:51:13am

re: #144 littleoldlady

What's the movie called?

/netflix, here I come!

It's just called "Alvin and the Chipmunks". It was released in 2007, so it should be available on Netflix by now.

146 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:52:25am

re: #140 Karridine

Red Butler?

reD Batry?

rEd Wozzisname of the Fantastic Fore?

/... I better apolomogize before I utterly destroy a once-profound friendship...

how about just plain old "red"?

nuthin fancy, nuthin contrived...... damn sure no caps. %-)

147 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:52:30am

re: #144 littleoldlady

What's the movie called?

/netflix, here I come!

If you haven't heard of it, here's the full trailer.

148 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:53:31am
149 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:54:14am

Morning lizards! Nothing like popping by in time for some fruitcup.....

150 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:54:15am

re: #119 Erik The Red

Hi Crux morning Lizards. With Stuart Clarke being out do to injury that must really ruin the rest of your day. Who is Peter Siddle? Never heard of him. Do you guys rate him as a good replacement?

Don't know much about Siddle other than he plays for the state of Victoria. The curator of the WACA ground in Perth is predicting a bouncy, unpredictable pitch. Should be interesting.

Predicting and unpredictable pitch. ROFL

151 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:54:59am

re: #147 gmsc

THANKS! :-)

152 rightside  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:56:12am

Hmm.. scrambling between threads to find the fruitcup, but can't find it!

{lol}, you are coming on earlier and earlier!

153 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:56:43am

re: #142 gmsc

For some reason-the 'idiot' bell reminded me totally of "Mr Bean".....LOL.

154 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:57:32am

re: #148 ploome hineni

every reply i have to that will get me deleted. there is a reason my family left the "beloved old country"......

155 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:57:47am

re: #153 Pietr

For some reason-the 'idiot' bell reminded me totally of "Mr Bean".....LOL.

I never thought about that, but you're right!

156 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:58:46am

re: #150 Crux Australis

Don't know much about Siddle other than he plays for the state of Victoria. The curator of the WACA ground in Perth is predicting a bouncy, unpredictable pitch. Should be interesting.

Predicting and unpredictable pitch. ROFL

Might work to S.A's favour. If Smith wins the toss and bowls first. Good luck look forward to speaking to you and aussie Wednesday evening to hear your take on the days play. I will be sleeping through most of it.

157 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:59:27am

re: #152 rightside

I know. :-( I woke up yesterday. :-( :-( :-(

/and here I am HINENI...
// PLOOMIE! :-)

158 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------->
Help yourselves!

159 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:00:16am

Morning lol. Thanks for fruitcup.

160 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:01:07am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Worth the wait every time!

161 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:01:35am

Thankee for fruitcup lol.

/just can't get into the discussions lately. :(

162 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:02:20am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------->
Help yourselves!

Good morning.

As for my favorite Christmas song....it's definitely this version of Carol of the Bells

163 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:02:38am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------->
Help yourselves!

Yum - perfect!

164 rightside  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:02:40am

re: #158 littleoldlady


Thanks lol!

165 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:02:43am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------->
Help yourselves!

as usual...... it tastes funny.

166 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:02:47am

re: #159 Erik The Red

You got a bonus ding for my inability to correctly ding littleoldlady.

I blame red.

167 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:04:05am

re: #166 Sharmuta

You got a bonus ding for my inability to correctly ding littleoldlady.

I blame red.

Thank maybe someone will fix. Hope not/

168 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:05:30am

Eric! :-)
Fenway! :-)
BlueCanuck! :-)
Matrix! :-)
gmsc! :-)
red! :-)
Sharmuta! :-) ;-)

169 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:06:15am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Gracias, lol-fruitcup and 'Carol of the Bells'-seems a little more like Christmas, now.

170 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:08:01am

Pietr! :-)

re: #162 TheMatrix31

That's great! :-)

171 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:08:11am

I just saw the ISS go across the night sky. Impressive.

172 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:08:38am

re: #167 Erik The Red

Thank maybe someone will fix. Hope not/

I hope not too. No need for correction.

173 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:09:52am
174 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:11:11am

re: #162 TheMatrix31

Whoa! That is SOME jumping, pounding, dare I say rocking version of Carol of the Bells!

175 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:12:45am

re: #173 Sharmuta

For my first 8 years here in Thailand, I was unable to hear that song even once...

And you have chosen a prime and beautiful version, Sharmie...

176 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:13:24am

re: #174 Karridine

Whoa! That is SOME jumping, pounding, dare I say rocking version of Carol of the Bells!

Those guys are bad ass, the Trans-Siberian Orchestra. You should hear their other stuff.

177 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:13:28am

re: #175 Karridine

The first time I heard it, Kelly gave me goosebumps.

178 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:16:09am

re: #177 Sharmuta

The very THOUGHT of the Blessed Beauty being born to humankind gives me goosebumps, Miz Sharm...

179 rightside  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:16:27am

re: #176 TheMatrix31


The Savatage days?

180 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:18:22am

re: #179 rightside

The Savatage days?

I've actually never heard anything from Savatage..

181 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:23:30am

re: #178 Karridine

It does, K.

182 rightside  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:25:54am

Nothing heard, out.

183 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:27:08am

Dang...where's 3 Wood when you need him? If an American (or Canadian) company is traded on an overseas stock exchange (Hong Kong, Sydney or Frankfurt, for instance) how indicative is that stock's performance in that market of how it will perform on a North American exchange later on that same day- is it simply reacting to domestic forces or do the wider market trends play a role in that?

184 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:29:31am

re: #183 Fenway_Nation

Which company? Chances are it will perform the same on the U.S. exchange.

/but not always

185 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:30:58am

re: #178 Karridine

The very THOUGHT of the Blessed Beauty being born to humankind gives me goosebumps, Miz Sharm...

Recently, they did a person-on-the street survey, just to see how many American Idol contestants people could name (winners or not).

About 95% of the time, at least 1 of only 3 different names were recall: Kelly Clarkson, Sanjaya and William Hung.

186 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:33:13am

re: #184 littleoldlady

A bunch- Union Pacific, Kansas City Southern and Canadian Pacific in the railway category; Rio Tinto, Wheaton Silver and Freeport McMoran in the mining category and Harvest and CrossTex in the energy category....

/trying to see if I can pick up any discernable pattern in the 'not always' department

187 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:35:19am

re: #185 gmsc

Speaking of American Idol contestants...

Here's another favorite Christmas song of mine, a more recent classic.

188 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:39:22am

Well, all this yummy fruitcup and Christmas music is a little too relaxing at 2:30 in the morning.

Good night, all! Merry Christmas!

189 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:41:02am

re: #186 Fenway_Nation

Sounds like across-the-board losses. It could just be "their" market. The NYSE is showing a tiny loss (futures) right now.

190 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:41:28am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

191 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:44:07am

Night gmsc.

/busy dealing with one of the universes "better" idiots.

192 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:44:54am

re: #189 littleoldlady

Yea...looks like I can forget about precious metals for the time being, too.

193 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:48:14am

re: #191 BlueCanuck

Aww- too bad, because we miss you!

194 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:48:35am

Good morning, Lizards.

195 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:49:06am

re: #191 BlueCanuck


The Universe finally made one, huh?

196 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:49:15am

re: #193 Sharmuta

I am sorry about that. I do pay attention though.

197 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:50:04am

re: #195 Fenway_Nation

The universe is always making them. I just happened to get stuck with the latest incarnation. Can barely follow printed instructions.

198 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:50:25am

Oh yeah, good morning {goddess}. :)

199 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:52:24am

re: #192 Fenway_Nation

Yea...looks like I can forget about precious metals for the time being, too.

That's 'cause the dollar got stronger.

/that wasn't supposed to happen...

New rules for the U.S. economy: There are no rules.

200 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:52:43am

re: #198 BlueCanuck

Oh yeah, good morning {goddess}. :)

{BlueCanuck}

201 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:52:48am

re: #197 BlueCanuck


Well...you're in Canada, right? Are you sure those aren't the French instructions you're trying to read?

202 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:52:58am

goddess! :-)

203 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:55:21am

re: #199 littleoldlady

And me with most of my spare money in a boring, vanilla CD (granted one with an APY of 5%) 'til April.

I was able to get some silver, however....

204 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:55:25am

re: #201 Fenway_Nation

Me read? No it read. And they aren't in french, because I wrote them myself. Step by step of what to do and no big words.

/I swear sometimes that their I.Q.'s are in the moron range.

205 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:58:51am

re: #96 Crux Australis

I am really angry today. The stupid Australian Labor government is finally going ahead with it's ideologically based Carbon Emissions Trading Scheme. This is going to cost jobs and put up electricity prices. Even with the compensation in the plan for pensioners and low-income wage earners it is still going to be a net loss for Australians.

Even if (and that's a huge IF) global warming is true AND CHINA AND INDIA DO NOT FOLLOW it is a waste of time and effort.

If Australia were to disappear tomorrow the growth of China IN NINE MONTHS would be enough to fill the gap left.

And all this in a time of economic downturn. Really smart!

Sorry for the rant.

Hi Crux! I'm ranting with you :-)

We're the poor idiots who'll foot the bill - no kiddies in childcare, no welfare, still working but not earning so much that we can afford tax avoidance......yes, the class of people hated by the left it seems -double (modest) income, no dependents, mortgage paying, no tax relief in sight and NOW this tax !

206 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:00:40am

Good morning, goddess.

207 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:00:52am

re: #205 aussiemagpie

Coming soon to the good ol' US of A, I fear.

208 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:09:10am

{littleoldlady}

209 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:11:01am

re: #207 Fenway_Nation

Coming soon to the good ol' US of A, I fear.

Hi, nothing like sharing the pain eh? :-)

210 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:11:29am

The OT story that moves me the most is Joseph. And this song from Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat has always given me chills.

Close Every Door

/Showtunes for lol

211 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:12:39am

re: #168 littleoldlady

Hello {littleoldlady} :-)

212 nonic  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:18:43am

Good morning, people.

I hope everyone has a good ELECTORAL COLLEGE DAY!

Yes, today's the day Barack Hussein Obama will be elected President of the United States.

:-)

I wonder if Michelle gets another ring for this one.

Hey, it's okay to use his middle name now, you know.

213 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:20:57am

{Sharmuta}
{nonic}
{aussiemagpie}
{fenway nation}

214 nonic  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:21:00am

re: #205 aussiemagpie

QUOTE no kiddies in childcare, no welfare, still working but not earning so much that we can afford tax avoidance......yes, the class of people hated by the left it seems -double (modest) income, no dependents, mortgage paying, no tax relief in sight END QUOTE

Oh, no, Honey. You're the people the Lefts LOVES! LOL

215 LizardBennet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:22:06am

Good morning Lizards. Feeling like I have to vent. Between his divisive actions during the 2000 elections, and his global warning fearmongering and hypocitical lifestyle, I think Algore is a turd. I wish I could be more eloquent, but there you have it. I really can't stand Algore, and I am so glad I voted for GW Bush (both times). ***sigh*** am I too late for fruit cup? I think I could use some.

216 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:22:54am

Just thinking about the shoe throwing incident in Iraq.

America got rid of one Hussein in Iraq only to get another one in the White House. lol

217 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:23:17am

re: #215 LizardBennet

Fruitcup's always in the same place it always is- 2:00. Be sure to give it a ding.

218 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:23:35am

re: #213 goddessoftheclassroom

{Sharmuta}
{nonic}
{aussiemagpie}
{fenway nation}

Hi {goddessoftheclassroom} Good to see you!

219 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:24:12am

lol I just saw the shoe thing...ridiculous.

220 nonic  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:24:13am

Hiya, goddess. And littleoldlady, too.

Can somebody tell me when Hannukha is this year?

221 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:25:09am

re: #214 nonic

QUOTE no kiddies in childcare, no welfare, still working but not earning so much that we can afford tax avoidance......yes, the class of people hated by the left it seems -double (modest) income, no dependents, mortgage paying, no tax relief in sight END QUOTE

Oh, no, Honey. You're the people the Lefts LOVES! LOL

LOL! Hi {nonic} And I'll complete your sentence...

You're the people the Lefts LOVES! ,,TO FLEECE !

222 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:25:41am

Here's the thing, folks- littleoldlady's too nice to ask you to ding up the fruitcup. But- how else would we know you grabbed a fruitcup unless you ding it up, huh? Besides- she's a nice lady, no matter what her avatar says.

223 nonic  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:29:44am

re: #221 aussiemagpie

{aussie} :-)

224 LizardBennet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:31:16am

re: #216 Crux Australis
It's a phychological pathology if you ask me. During WWII we never would have elected a President named Adolf Hisler--but that's basically what we're doing now. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, my ass. This is culture we're talking about. Our cuture is under seige. Before the PC movement people would have had the common sense to question how the cultural backgound of a candidate would effect his presidency. But that sensible approach as been done away with. Islam is at war with us, that much is clear, So instead of effectively figting back, we elect someone who probably has sympathies towards the people we are at war with because of his upbringing.

225 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:32:59am

re: #210 Sharmuta

Andrew Lloyd Weber-so talented. I found 'Cats' a beautifully crafted work of art. 'Grizzabella' and 'Memory' were haunting-saw 'Cats' 3 times in London, and twice here in San Antonio-always a joy to view the performance.

But in the theme of the season, and somewhat classical, thought I'd offer up my own choice. Sang this so many times as soprano soloist when I was a kid-and I always teared up. But this version is from Hitman .

226 LizardBennet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:33:11am

re: #220 nonic
21st to the 29th of December

227 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:34:42am

re: #220 nonic

Starts on the 22nd-according to my calendar.

228 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:35:33am

Good morning all from a balmy 44 degree Baltimore.

Had a chance to go to the airport with the family for Operation Welcome Home, to greet 247 troops coming home for the holidays Christmas.

It was a wonderful experience.
My wife does this about once a week while I am gone, and the group doing it just keeps getting bigger every week.

229 LizardBennet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:36:14am

re: #227 PietrCandlelighting starts the evening before the first day

230 NotTheMomma  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:37:24am

I absolutely hate that song. Now I won't be able to get it out o fmy head. Thanks Charles.
:)

231 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:38:12am

re: #229 LizardBennet

Oops-Thanks.

232 LizardBennet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:38:51am

re: #231 Pietrwecome very much

233 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:40:14am

re: #225 Pietr

I'm well versed in Joseph- I've seen three productions of it, including the revival with Donny Osmand. I saw Phantom in LA from the fourth row- that was quite an experience, and I got to see Jesus Christ Superstar from the fifth row years ago. Webber is quite good, and Tim Rice is an amazing lyricist. I also became well acquainted with another show Rice wrote for- Chess- probably best know for this tune.

234 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:40:55am

re: #223 nonic

{aussie} :-)

Goodness, nonic, I've just been bitten by a mouse that I was rescuing from a mass attack by my three kitties! Ouch.....

235 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:41:52am

re: #233 Sharmuta

I'm well versed in Joseph- I've seen three productions of it, including the revival with Donny Osmand. I saw Phantom in LA from the fourth row- that was quite an experience, and I got to see Jesus Christ Superstar from the fifth row years ago. Webber is quite good, and Tim Rice is an amazing lyricist. I also became well acquainted with another show Rice wrote for- Chess- probably best know for this tune.

I love Chess and all the songs, but it's not as well-known.

236 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:41:57am

re: #233 Sharmuta

I'm well versed in Joseph- I've seen three productions of it, including the revival with Donny Osmand. I saw Phantom in LA from the fourth row- that was quite an experience, and I got to see Jesus Christ Superstar from the fifth row years ago. Webber is quite good, and Tim Rice is an amazing lyricist. I also became well acquainted with another show Rice wrote for- Chess- probably best know for this tune.

Did you get Obamas autograph?

/

237 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:42:32am

re: #234 aussiemagpie

Goodness, nonic, I've just been bitten by a mouse that I was rescuing from a mass attack by my three kitties! Ouch.....

WASH THAT WELL AND USE PEROXIDE!

238 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:42:46am

re: #233 Sharmuta

Loved that song when it came out. Couldn't find a copy of it in the stores so I had to make do by taping it off the radio.

239 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:43:13am

re: #237 goddessoftheclassroom

WASH THAT WELL AND USE PEROXIDE!

I've never used peroxide on a mouse before!

240 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:43:24am

re: #237 goddessoftheclassroom

WASH THAT WELL AND USE PEROXIDE!

As well as isopropyl alcohol.

241 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:44:36am

re: #238 BlueCanuck

Ah! But it's a SOUNDTRACK!

Goddess- I ADORE Chess. Great show.

242 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:45:00am

re: #237 goddessoftheclassroom

LOTS of Peroxide-My vet told me it even burns out rabies germs-and it's important to use it quickly.

243 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:45:02am

re: #237 goddessoftheclassroom

WASH THAT WELL AND USE PEROXIDE!

The little thing bit long and hard! Yes I've washed it with disinfectant, now I'll go and see which diseases I might catch :-) Thanks!

244 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:48:23am

re: #238 BlueCanuck

Loved that song when it came out. Couldn't find a copy of it in the stores so I had to make do by taping it off the radio.

BTW- I remember those days. Waiting all day for the DJ to play one damn song and then they talk over the opening.... Good times, good times.

Also- I felt compelled to change the quote in my profile.

245 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:49:41am

re: #224 LizardBennet Nah is more like after WW2 we had elected a Juan Benito Hisler.

246 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:50:05am

re: #239 sattv4u2

I've never used peroxide on a mouse before!

LOL! I committed the faulty antecedent faux pas!

Ahem.

"Wash THAT WOUND well and use peroxide."

247 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:53:45am

re: #244 Sharmuta

LOL, love that quote. :)

/and the queens we use would not excite you. ;)
//can't listen to the song here at work now, but it's burned into my synapses from a long time ago.

248 wahabicorridor  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:56:07am

re: #243 aussiemagpie

The little thing bit long and hard! Yes I've washed it with disinfectant, now I'll go and see which diseases I might catch :-) Thanks!


Oh dear. My pet mouse, Shrankly bit my friend (she picked him up incorrectly) - she had to get a tetnus shot

good morning lizards............quite warm here in the holy city of Alexandria - going to be in the 60s today.

249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:56:31am

C'mon without...

Morning. How are we this morning?

250 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:57:58am

{FBV}

I've got to run. Y'all have a GREAT day!

251 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:58:34am

re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Morning FBV, trying to find a loophole in the commandment of "Thou shall not kill".

/Now if only the 11th commandment was real. . . . . . . .

252 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:59:55am

re: #251 BlueCanuck

Morning FBV, trying to find a loophole in the commandment of "Thou shall not kill".

/Now if only the 11th commandment was real. . . . . . . .

Well ,, I don't have verse(s) at hand, but the Old Testament was chock full of SMITING !

253 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:01:07am

re: #251 BlueCanuck

Morning FBV, trying to find a loophole in the commandment of "Thou shall not kill".

/Now if only the 11th commandment was real. . . . . . . .

In fact, it means "thou shalt not murder."

254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:03:21am

re: #253 goddessoftheclassroom

In fact, it means "thou shalt not murder."

And I agree.

255 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:03:28am

re: #252 sattv4u2

I seem to remember "smiting with the Jaw Bone of an Ass"-but it's really not good to dig up one of the moonbats just for a jawbone, and illegal to boot.

...pops white smoke...

256 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:04:35am

re: #253 goddessoftheclassroom

Yes, that was the interpetation that I was following.

/still looking for that loophole

257 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:05:42am

Clint Eastwood says Americans are to soft. Agree or disagree? I agree the proof is in our Pres Elect.

258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:07am

re: #256 BlueCanuck

Who we wanting to kill? Perhaps I can grant absolution?

Warning; It is imperative that it is someone that I also would want dead.

259 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:12am

re: #255 Pietr

I seem to remember "smiting with the Jaw Bone of an Ass"-but it's really not good to dig up one of the moonbats just for a jawbone, and illegal to boot.

...pops white smoke...

Back in my youth, I used to go Clubbing For A Piece Of Ass, is that the same !?!?!?!?!

BAD SATT ,,, BAD BAD BAD

260 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:19am

re: #256 BlueCanuck
Smiting is allowed murder isn't so just call it Smiting morons.

261 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:22am

re: #256 BlueCanuck

Justifiable Homicide or Self Preservation (as in trying to preserve your sanity)?

262 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:34am

Some little known Chess facts- The London version differed from the Broadway version, and the production's lyrics to Bangkok are different from Murray Head's. Here's a crappy high school production of the original lyrics.

Also- I became quite well versed in Tim Rice's work before Disney released Aladin, and was completely able to pick out his lyrics from those of Alan Meneken(?). Not sure if I have the name right, I'm going off memory, but he was the lyricist Disney was using for a number of their films at the time, and he passed away while working on Aladin, so Tim Rice was brought in to complete the movie.

263 steve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:47am

Walter the Puppet:
"Screw you, its Merry Christmas>"

264 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:07:06am

re: #258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Think its the moron who can't follow the step by step instructions Blue provided.

265 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:07:20am

re: #257 rancher

Clint Eastwood says Americans are to soft. Agree or disagree? I agree the proof is in our Pres Elect.

Easier baraometer. Go to the mall and see how many chubby kids are waddling around

266 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:08:05am

re: #265 sattv4u2

Easier baraometer. Go to the mall and see how many chubby kids are waddling around

BAROMETER

PIMF

267 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:08:27am

re: #265 sattv4u2
Lol those are kids I thought it was a veal raising farm.

268 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:08:53am

re: #261 Pietr

Justifiable Homicide or Self Preservation (as in trying to preserve your sanity)?

Oooooh, I like that one.

/now where did I put that real friend's phone number. . . . . . . . .

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:10:13am

re: #264 rancher

Think its the moron who can't follow the step by step instructions Blue provided.

Ok, no absolution. Sorry. Can't find it. I don't want them dead.

"No smite for you!"

270 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:10:42am

Oregon Bank bomber who killed 2 police officers has been arrested.

271 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:10:53am

Good morning from a frigid mid-illinois where it is up to 10 degrees of global warming out there.

In market news, the Nikkei was up 5.2%, the Hang Seng was up about 2% and the market futures are about flat.

272 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:11:25am

14 degrees here at least the wind has stopped.

273 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:11:48am

re: #257 rancher

Well when was the last time we as North Americans had to really, really, really make sacrafices? Stories of rationing during WWII to me are only stories. Most of my friends parents probably don't even have those stories, and probably hear about it from their grandparents and tales of the Great Depression from great or great great grandparents.

274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:12:33am

We were looking at pictures the other day. Both of our kids were fat. We didn't even notice how fat they were. They are both very fit adults (Keep Dorian away from my daughter!). You just don't see it in your own kids.

275 steve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:12:39am

I am going to sell 'Indulgences' next year. If anybody is interested I can make specific ones as needed.
Prices will vary depending on the Indulgence request.

276 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:12:39am

burrrr getting cold here
thanks alot canuks.

277 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:12:53am

Someone had a market question for ya up thread 3wood about U.S companies which are traded on the foreign market. Something along the lines of is how they do during foreign trading indicative of how they will do when the Dow etc open.

278 nonic  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:13:37am

LizardBennet
Pietr

Thanks.

aussiemagpie...........

Bitten by the mouse, huh? You're lucky you weren't bitten by the cats! Hey, it's a cat-eat-mouse world. You gotta let nature happen.

279 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:13:47am

re: #271 3 wood

Thanks for the market update. Currently hear on the north shore of Lake Ontario, it's 9° C. It's forecast to drop to -9° C tonight though.

/wish the weather would make up it's bloody mind on which season it is.

280 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:13:58am

re: #248 wahabicorridor

Oh dear. My pet mouse, Shrankly bit my friend (she picked him up incorrectly) - she had to get a tetnus shot

good morning lizards............quite warm here in the holy city of Alexandria - going to be in the 60s today.

Good morning, and yes I did pick it up incorrectly - right out from the mouth of one of my kitties :-)

Luckily my cat wasn't crunching down too hard on the poor little thing!

281 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:14:12am

re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We were looking at pictures the other day. Both of our kids were fat. We didn't even notice how fat they were. They are both very fit adults (Keep Dorian away from my daughter!). You just don't see it in your own kids.

I'll need a before and after photo of your daughter as proof.

On second thought, just send me several "afters"

On third thought, send me an album of "afters"

282 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:14:53am

re: #280 aussiemagpie That's gratitude for ya. Oddly enough despite having caught numerous wild mice I've never been bit.

283 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:15:25am

re: #281 sattv4u2

To save FBV and Mandy the effort *WHACK*.

/you're lucky I like you. . . . . . . .

284 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:15:29am

re: #281 sattv4u2
Just ask for her facebook or myspace info :P.

285 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:16:26am

re: #283 BlueCanuck

To save FBV and Mandy the effort *WHACK*.

/you're lucky I like you. . . . . . . .

heh ,,,, wait till you get to know me ,,, Trust me ,, I KNOW me ,,,,

286 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:17:30am

re: #279 BlueCanuck

the west side of lake mich was 50f last nite it is now at 9f and going down.
much thanks to alberata for the weather.

287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:18:37am

re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We were looking at pictures the other day. Both of our kids were fat. We didn't even notice how fat they were. They are both very fit adults (Keep Dorian and Sattv away from my daughter!). You just don't see it in your own kids.

Sigh.

288 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:19:34am

re: #287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You probably won't feel safe until she's married off. Until then keep the shotgun and club handy.

289 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:19:34am

re: #287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Comeon FBV just admit it. She now inhabits the back room of your house guarded 24/7 with a shot gun.

290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:19:51am

Waiting for Realwest to get here. Gotta get my "Cowboy Gloat" on.

291 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:19:53am

re: #287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(Keep Dorian and Sattv away from my daughter!)

Post the photo and see how many more fit between the () !

292 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:21:54am

re: #291 sattv4u2

I only chase after females that are close to my age group. That way I have at least a chance of having something in common with them. Once spent some time chatting up a waitress. Found out she was half my age, and her mother was my age. Had to bite my tongue before I got really hurt.

293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:22:20am

re: #288 BlueCanuck

re: #289 rancher

She is stunning (you should see the looks that I catch men giving her) and a total bad-ass. Clint Eastwood, total wimp.

She started a job a few months back, was getting hit on by the guys. Finally, pinned a guy up against a wall and said, "You will not be touching me, you got that?"

Love my girl.

294 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:24:17am

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When he left last night, he didn't seem like he expected to be around much today. He left a message for Pingjockey in #37 of the previous thread (Totten:....).

295 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:24:35am

re: #292 BlueCanuck

I only chase after females that are close to my age group. That way I have at least a chance of having something in common with them. Once spent some time chatting up a waitress. Found out she was half my age, and her mother was my age. Had to bite my tongue before I got really hurt.

hmmmmm,,,, a mother/daughter combo ,,,,, interesting ,,,,, Verryyyy interesting !

296 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:24:49am

/sorry...I was on the phone...

nonic! :-)

aussie! :-)

297 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:25:23am

re: #296 littleoldlady

/sorry...I was on the phone...

nonic! :-)

aussie! :-)

Wouldn't it be more comfy if you were on a chair ?

298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:25:24am

re: #294 Pietr

Thanks. Well, I'll gloat anyway. Last night's Cowboy win caught me totally by surprise (but I'll take it).

299 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:25:48am

Update on the Blago fiasco:

1. Blago spent the weekend looking for a new attorney. Apparently he owes his current law form a whole lot of fees so they are pretty much not willing to represent him until the amount owed is paid up. Good luck with that. Blago spent the weekend taking to high profile Chicago attorney Ed Genson. Genson is reportedly trying to decide if he is going to represent Blago, which means he's trying to figure out if he will ever see a dime of fees.

2. The State legislature is having an emergency session today to try to figure out what to do. It is becoming very clear that AG Lisa Madigan's ploy to have Blago removed from office by the State Supreme Court for being unfit is going to go nowhere. Therefore, it will be up to the Legislature to impeach him. The Republican are hoping for a very drawn out affair as they want to see the Democrats slowly roast on the spit of scandal.

3. That leaves the question of what to do for a Senator? The Democrats do not want to have an open election cause then a Republican might win (Machine politics never quits in Illinois).

4. Blago is not going to resign today. Ever the shake down artist, he is trying to figure out how to sell his own seat for a walk.

300 Bubblehead II  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:25:58am

Morning all. Just my usual early morning drive by as I get ready to go to work.

Iranian to be blinded with acid for doing same to woman

TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- An Iranian woman, blinded by a jilted stalker who threw acid in her face, has persuaded a court to sentence him to be blinded with acid himself under Islamic law demanding an eye for an eye.

A bit barbaric, but the sentence fits the crime.

L8R

/and no, I will not be posting from work today. :-)

301 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:26:24am

re: #295 sattv4u2

The comment I was holding back, "I should be chasing after your mother, not you."

/never piss off your favourite watering hole wait staff.

302 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:26:28am

Good Morning LGF.
UNHRC Jewish-American Anti-Semite Richard Falk Denied Entry to Israel
This UN scumbag compares Israeli actions to Nazis and the Holocaust and was therefore denied entry as being completely unobjective and unwelcome in Israel.
Stay tuned for the usual chorus of hypocritical yapping at Israel's heels coming in 3, 2, 1...

303 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:26:45am

re: #295 sattv4u2

reminds me of when i was in intensive care and they had mother/daughter stripper teams. wonder why no one came in to check my b.p.

304 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:28:32am

re: #297 sattv4u2

Wouldn't it be more comfy if you were on a chair ?

sattv4u2! :-)

That's how talloldman turned off the TV the other day. Sat on the remote by accident. Couldn't figure out how to reconfigure it.

/dang newfangled digital TV chazzerei... ;-)

305 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:28:47am

re: #300 Bubblehead II

I know. But, I totally support some of forms of barbarism.

306 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:29:13am

re: #300 Bubblehead II

Sounds like "Hammurabis'(sp?) Law"-where the punishment fits the crime.....Hmmm.

307 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:29:17am

re: #277 rancher

Someone had a market question for ya up thread 3wood about U.S companies which are traded on the foreign market. Something along the lines of is how they do during foreign trading indicative of how they will do when the Dow etc open.

Well, it's a pretty good indicator. You have to use some judgment as to whether the overseas action is getting caught up to the NYSE or whether it reflects new news.

308 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:30:10am

re: #303 yochanan

reminds me of when i was in intensive care and they had mother/daughter stripper teams. wonder why no one came in to check my b.p.

I wanna check into THAT hospital ,,,,,, STAT!

309 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:30:13am

In amongst all the doom and gloom, and the constant drone about vanishing species, is this!

1,000 species discovered over past decade in the Greater Mekong region...

SCIENTISTS have discovered more than 1000 species in Southeast Asia's Greater Mekong region in the past decade, including a spider as big as a dinner plate, the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) said.

A rat thought to have become extinct 11 million years ago and a cyanide-laced, shocking pink millipede were among creatures found in what the group called a "biological treasure trove".

The species were all found in the rainforests and wetlands along the Mekong River, which flows through Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam and the southern Chinese province of Yunnan.

"It doesn't get any better than this," Stuart Chapman, director of WWF's Greater Mekong Program, said.

"We thought discoveries of this scale were confined to the history books."

The WWF report, First Contact in the Greater Mekong, said that "between 1997 and 2007, at least 1068 have been officially described by science as being newly discovered species."

These included the world's largest huntsman spider, with a leg span of 30 centimetres, and the "startlingly" coloured "dragon millipede", which produces the deadly compound cyanide.

Next time you hear someone going on about how species are disappearing, mention this wonderful news.....

310 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:32:45am

By the way, it's coming out now that the Federal investigators had to cut their investigation off short go public and bust Blago early cause the Chicago Tribune went public with the story so Fitzgerald had to go with what he had. They actually wanted to wait for the deal to go down with Blago selling the Senate seat so they could have that on tape. Fitzgerald's office thought they had a deal with the Tribune to sit on the story till they made their pinch, but the Trib went with the story anyway.

311 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:33:27am

re: #282 rancher

That's gratitude for ya. Oddly enough despite having caught numerous wild mice I've never been bit.

LOL! No thank you, no nothing.....

312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:35:22am

re: #310 3 wood

The Trib had sat on it for a while, hadn't they? I don't know how long any paper can stay off something that juicy.

Oh. Am I defending the press?

313 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:35:24am

re: #310 3 wood

By the way, it's coming out now that the Federal investigators had to cut their investigation off short go public and bust Blago early cause the Chicago Tribune went public with the story so Fitzgerald had to go with what he had. They actually wanted to wait for the deal to go down with Blago selling the Senate seat so they could have that on tape. Fitzgerald's office thought they had a deal with the Tribune to sit on the story till they made their pinch, but the Trib went with the story anyway.

Ahhh ,,, "Freedom Of The Press" Screwing Up American Jurisprudence For Decades !

314 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:35:43am

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Waiting for Realwest to get here. Gotta get my "Cowboy Gloat" on.

Boy did the Giants poor play take me by surprise.

But that's why they play the games.

315 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:35:46am

Well folks, my relief is here. Have a good day and stay scaly lizards.

316 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:36:05am

re: #310 3 wood
Of course the Trib went early with the story they had to block Blago having any real charges filed against him.

317 monkeytime  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:37:13am

re: #313 sattv4u2

Ahhh ,,, "Freedom Of The Press" Screwing Up American Jurisprudence For Decades !

Or maybe the Tribune didn't want to see any of its friends get in any deeper.

318 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:37:32am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Story I'm hearing is Fitzgerald's office had a clear agreement for the Trib to sit on the story til the buy went down in exchange for exclusive rights to cover the bust.

319 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:38:38am

re: #313 sattv4u2

Ahhh ,,, "Freedom Of The Press" Screwing Up American Jurisprudence For Decades

Especially when you consider that Blago was shaking down the Tribune too.

Nobody ever said that the MSM was smart.

320 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:38:39am

re: #318 3 wood

Story I'm hearing is Fitzgerald's office had a clear agreement for the Trib to sit on the story til the buy went down in exchange for exclusive rights to cover the bust.

Oh ,, Goody ,,, a BOOB thread !

321 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:38:54am

re: #318 3 wood I wonder if they realized money that went to Blagojevich might somehow be traced back to there offices.

322 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:39:00am

Bye, BlueCanuck! :-)

I'm out, too...

Good day, ALL!™

323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:39:10am

re: #317 monkeytime

He was squeezing the Trib too. I seriously doubt that the Trib considers Blago a friend they would want to protect.

Don't know the inside story, I'll (off course) defer to Wood (Mornin' Wood!).

324 gregg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:40:06am

For any of you who become confused and are not sure if you should say "Christmas Tree" or "Holiday Tree", I think this will help you.

325 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:40:16am

re: #304 littleoldlady

call in a grand child

326 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:40:23am

re: #296 littleoldlady

/sorry...I was on the phone...

nonic! :-)

aussie! :-)

Hello again, and I'm cracking up at Satts comment :-D

327 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:40:41am

The market futures are looking like this:

DOW up 13 points

S&P 500 unchanged form the Friday close

NASDAQ up 4.25 points.

328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:41:36am

Of course by the time the Trib popped the story, Blago was aware of the surveillance and was trying to undo some of his damage.

329 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:42:08am

re: #302 Spare O'Lake So is he a self hating Jewish American or just an anti-Zionist?

330 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:42:10am

if the trib had waited JJJ would have ended up in club fed maybe even his pops JJSr

331 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:42:48am

re: #329 rancher

both he is a college prof.

332 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:43:38am

re: #328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Of course by the time the Trib popped the story, Blago was aware of the surveillance and was trying to undo some of his damage.


How did the Trib get the story to begin with? Was it something they investigated themselves or was there a leak in the federal investigation (yeah, I know, that NEVER happens... Right... :-)

333 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:44:52am

re: #329 rancher

So is he a self hating Jewish American or just an anti-Zionist?

remember if was the jewish section of the soviet communist party that murdered the rabbi's, teachers and other leaders of the russian jewish comm. after the red revolution under v.i. lenin these same jewish commies were then murdered by stalin when he no longer needed them.

334 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:45:44am

re: #332 CIA Reject I'm willing to bet someone at the Trib was questioned since Blago was asking them for handouts too. When htat happened I'm thinking they were promised exclusivity and no mention in the actual criminal complait in return for compliance.

335 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:46:33am

The Fed's are also looking at Patti Blagojevich's strange real estate deals:

Uncomfortable spotlight shone on Patti Blagojevich

Even before her voice was heard on covert recordings made by federal investigators, First Lady Patricia Blagojevich was neck-deep in the federal probe of her husband and his administration.

Once a residential real estate broker on the North Side, Patricia Blagojevich left that career this year amid scrutiny from the Tribune and federal agents who have for a year been examining whether clients hired her to win favor from her husband's administration.

But her decision to change careers didn't seem to slow the investigation, which sped up in recent weeks after federal agents tapped the Blagojevich's phones and caught the first lady joining her husband on calls in which he talked about how his authority to pick President-elect Barack Obama's replacement in the U.S. Senate could be leveraged to help find her a seat on paid corporate boards.

Before that, though, federal agents—following years of news coverage—were probing hundreds of thousands of dollars in commissions Patricia Blagojevich earned in previous years as a real estate broker for political supporters, fundraisers and state contractors.

This is called leverage. Mrs. Blgo is going to have a decision to make with the Fed's, testify or go to the joint.

It get's better:

A year ago, one real estate agent told the Tribune that FBI agents contacted her with questions about her involvement with Patricia Blagojevich in the 2004 sale of a $3.2 million Gold Coast home. The seller was an investment banker and contributor to the governor's campaign fund who hired the first lady as his second agent on the deal.

That was only the most recent example. Patricia Blagojevich had an eight-year working relationship with Antoin "Tony" Rezko, a onetime powerful developer and Blagojevich fundraiser who was found guilty this summer on influence-peddling charges.

A Tribune analysis this year found that Blagojevich's real estate company, River Realty, made more than $700,000 in commissions after her husband began raising money in 2000 for his first run for governor. Of those commissions, more than three-quarters came from clients with connections, the newspaper found.

This would be the same Tony Rezco who did a sweetheart land deal with The Messiah.

336 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:46:46am

re: #333 yochanan
Yeah I just wanted to know if he was the scum floating on the surface or the really nasty crap that sinks to the bottom of the Sewage.

337 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:47:11am

re: #334 rancher

I'm willing to bet someone at the Trib was questioned since Blago was asking them for handouts too. When htat happened I'm thinking they were promised exclusivity and no mention in the actual criminal complait in return for compliance.


That makes sense...

338 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:47:51am

re: #333 yochanan

Likewise in many cases of the ghettos in Poland....and the guilty 'informants' were the last to be sent to the Death Camps-but they did get sent.

339 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:48:41am

re: #309 aussiemagpie

In amongst all the doom and gloom, and the constant drone about vanishing species, is this!
1,000 species discovered over past decade in the Greater Mekong region...

Next time you hear someone going on about how species are disappearing, mention this wonderful news.....

Now there's a species I could live without - spiders the size of plates!

340 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:49:17am

re: #337 CIA Reject Just my belief not involved with any intimate details on the case except that the Trib was ask about contibuting.

341 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:49:32am

re: #300 Bubblehead II

“Hard cases, it is said, make bad law”
-John Campbell Argyll
I must admit that, from a cathartic standpoint, my initial reaction was one of support...My second reaction, however, was "How could such an incredibly primitive culture have survived into this century?"
And these people are building an atom bomb.

342 Joan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:50:12am

re: #16 Ps2

Count on journalists to have no view beyond their own glory and arrogance. They always know best, and never are they accountable for the consequences of their disgusting self-interest. Oh, of course, they have their own ethical standards, far above the common run of loyalties. *spit*

343 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:52:28am

re: #329 rancher

So is he a self hating Jewish American or just an anti-Zionist?

This prick loves himself very much.
And anyone who says the Jewish state of Israel is committing a Holocaust is an anti-Semite.

344 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:52:54am

Rahm Emanuel is on tape talking to Blago's people about the Senate seat as early as a week before the election.

Apparently the Obama camp submitted a list of acceptable candidates to Blago, with no strings attached.

Rahm Emanuel talked with governor's office about who should fill Obama's Senate seat

Emanuel delivered a list of candidates who would be "acceptable" to Obama, the source said. On the list were Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, Illinois Veterans Affairs director Tammy Duckworth, state Comptroller Dan Hynes and U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Chicago, the source said. All are Democrats.

Sometime after the election, Emanuel called Harris back to add the name of Democratic Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan to the approved list, the source said.

Notice who's name is not on this list?

Jesse Jackson Jr....

That means The Messiah was turning his back on the Jackson's.

That means the Jackson family is now on the outside looking in.

Ouch babe.

345 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:54:40am

re: #332 CIA Reject

How did the Trib get the story to begin with? Was it something they investigated themselves or was there a leak in the federal investigation (yeah, I know, that NEVER happens... Right... :-)

Blago was shaking down the Tribune too, and were questioned about it by the Fed's, so they were aware of it.

346 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:55:01am

re: #344 3 wood

That means The Messiah was turning his back on the Jackson's.

That means the Jackson family is now on the outside looking in

That tends to happen when Daddy Jackson threatens to cut your nuts off !

347 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:55:13am

Mommy can I keep it.

348 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:56:57am

re: #339 Spare O'Lake

Now there's a species I could live without - spiders the size of plates!

Just what I was thinking too!

And a cyanide laced hot pink millipede ....

349 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:57:53am

re: #339 Spare O'Lake
Sad thing is The Mekong Huntsman isn't even the largest in the world.

350 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:58:06am

re: #346 sattv4u2

That tends to happen when Daddy Jackson threatens to cut your nuts off !

You got that right. Daddy's big mouth finally caught up to the family.

Jesse Jackson Jr. is now nothing more than another loud mouthed small time politician with no future for anything bigger. That sound you just heard was the Chicago Machine turning on him too.

351 Joan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:58:36am

re: #344 3 wood

Very instructive: Obama doesn't publicly respond to JJ's insult about "cutting off his balls." No, he doesn't avenge himself with words, but with action. Often he repays favorable people with sweet words in public praise that cost him nothing, that actually make Obama look good. Case in point, of course, post-election "handling" of McCain.

352 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:58:45am

re: #336 rancher

Yeah I just wanted to know if he was the scum floating on the surface or the really nasty crap that sinks to the bottom of the Sewage.

he looks up at the sewage.

353 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:00:15am

re: #345 3 wood

Blago was shaking down the Tribune too, and were questioned about it by the Fed's, so they were aware of it.


Makes sense - too bad the Trib couldn't keep it under wraps until the feds had enough to actually arrest Blago. That would've been real fun...

354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:01:49am

re: #353 CIA Reject

Wait, uh...the Feds arrested Blago. He's got real problems.

355 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:01:57am

Here is a species of rabbit found in Vietnam/laos in the mekong valley.

356 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:02:28am

I don't think that anything in Australia can compare to the goings on of the Chicago Democrat Machine.

357 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:02:29am

Only the 2nd species of striped rabbit seen.

358 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:02:32am

re: #353 CIA Reject

Makes sense - too bad the Trib couldn't keep it under wraps until the feds had enough to actually arrest Blago. That would've been real fun...


Clarification: Arrest Blago for ACTUALLY SELLING BO's seat.

/Need more coffee...

359 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:03:02am

re: #353 CIA Reject

Makes sense - too bad the Trib couldn't keep it under wraps until the feds had enough to actually arrest Blago. That would've been real fun...

Au Contraire~! This is more fun. Watching Blago and the fate of that senate seat twist in the wind! Watching the Dems scatter in all directions trying to avoid the fallout! Waiting to see who #'s 1-4 are, and who offered what!

360 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:03:47am

re: #354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wait, uh...the Feds arrested Blago. He's got real problems.


See my #358 - He's not the only one with problems, but at leas his are way worse than mine... :-)

361 Joan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:03:57am

re: #344 3 wood

Apparently the Obama camp submitted a list of acceptable candidates to Blago, with no strings attached.
Rahm Emanuel talked with governor's office about who should fill Obama's Senate seat

Notice who's name is not on this list?

Jesse Jackson Jr....

An omission that might present a temptation to offer cashee monee to get that Senate seat. Strange. I found JJJ very persuasive on the television and wanted to believe him. Say it isn't so, oh say it isn't so!

362 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:04:32am

Don't run you chicken.

363 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:05:21am

re: #359 sattv4u2 I thought Valerie Jarret was confirmed as Number 1.

364 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:06:34am

Professor Richard Falk, a United Nations envoy who once sparked controversy by comparing Israelis to Nazis, has been barred entry to Israel and was put on a plane bound out of the country early on Monday.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Hope you had a nice trip asshole!

365 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:07:09am

re: #355 rancher

Here is a species of rabbit found in Vietnam/laos in the mekong valley.

Looks like a cross with a tabby cat :-)

It's rather gorgeous!

366 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:07:27am

re: #352 yochanan

he looks up at the sewage.

Yep, he is below low.
If Dick F--k was just an anti-Zionist he would not have gone for the Jewish jugular vein by comparing the actions of Jews to the atrocities of the Nazis. He is a full-on anti-Semite.
*spit*

367 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:09:20am

re: #365 aussiemagpie Yeah A kinda kiitah bunney.

368 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:10:09am

A couple of questions for those more familiar with Illinois politics that I am:

1) Is Rahm Emanuel currently serving as an Illinois congressman?
2) If he is, and he resigns his seat to become BO's WH chief of staff does Blago get to appoint a replacement for him as well?

/Just wondering what else could possibly be on the tape that Emanuel might not have wanted the FBI to hear....

369 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:10:23am

maby it will crash. re: #364 Nevergiveup

Professor Richard Falk, a United Nations envoy who once sparked controversy by comparing Israelis to Nazis, has been barred entry to Israel and was put on a plane bound out of the country early on Monday.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Hope you had a nice trip asshole!

370 fredo malmstein  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:10:26am

Johnny to the rescue!

[Link: www.politico.com...]

371 cagney  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:10:59am

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
=====================================
Quote:
A man wanted by Interpol for terrorist offences has been advising Scotland Yard, it has been reported.

Mohamed Ali Harrath had helped the Metropolitan Police - the UK's biggest force - on countering Muslim extremism, according to the Times.

Tunisian-born Mr Harrath, 45, is listed as wanted on the Interpol website.

Wanted for terror offences: Mohamed Ali Harrath is reportedly advising the Metropolitan Police on countering Muslim extremism

Interpol is the world's largest international police organisation.

The site lists his categories of offences as counterfeiting, forgery, crimes involving the use of weapons, explosives and terrorism.

The Interpol website reveals that an arrest warrant for Mr Harrath was issued by Tunisia.

The Times reported that Mr Harrath had been appointed by Scotland Yard as an adviser to its Muslim Contact Unit on preventing terrorism.

Mr Harrath is reportedly the chief executive of the broadcaster the Islam Channel, based in London.
========================

Unf^cking believable, it's like leaving the fox in charge of the hen house.

372 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:11:38am

re: #369 apachegunner
Bad apache there are pilots on that plane and maybe other passengers.

373 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:12:10am

An article published this weekend in a leaflet distributed by anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox stream Neturei Karta asserted that the terror attack on the Chabad House in Mumbai was a punishment from God for the organization's collaboration with Zionist Israelis.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

And they are allowed to live in Israel and even receive State benefits? Go Figure!

374 wahabicorridor  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:13:08am

The WSJ is slamming the SEC over the Madoff ponzi scheme

SEC Had Chances for Years to Expose Madoff's Alleged Ponzi Scheme

An enforcement case 16 years ago gave the Securities and Exchange Commission its first shot at figuring out how Bernard Madoff could rack up favorable returns with such uncanny consistency. After that, it received repeated warnings from outside whistle-blowers and at least twice looked into Mr. Madoff's brokerage itself.

Each time, it blew its chance. It was only last week, when Mr. Madoff allegedly confessed to his sons that he was running what amounted to a "giant Ponzi scheme," that the apparent $50 billion fraud came to light.

"This is a debacle for the SEC," said Joel Seligman, an SEC historian and president of the University of Rochester in New York. "The commission has a lot to answer for."

375 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:13:13am

yep, sorry about that partner. re: #372 rancher

Bad apache there are pilots on that plane and maybe other passengers.

376 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:14:06am

re: #373 Nevergiveup We in America have no room to talk about the state funding it's enemies. All you have to do is look at any college that recieves funding from the same Govt that it villianizes.

377 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:14:40am

re: #357 rancher

Does it have fangs?

378 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:14:51am

re: #375 apachegunner
Well unless the stench has driven off all other passengers then the pilots can just bail out a mile offshore.

379 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:14:55am

re: #367 rancher

But it seems to blend well with the background, so I'd say it has a good protective coloration, or natural comouflage.

380 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:15:50am

re: #374 wahabicorridor

The WSJ is slamming the SEC over the Madoff ponzi scheme

SEC Had Chances for Years to Expose Madoff's Alleged Ponzi Scheme


The swine! Doesn't he know that only the Government of the United States can run a Ponzi scheme!

381 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:16:10am

re: #379 Pietr
I'm just wondering how long til they are bred and sold in the US as tiger bunnies.

382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:17:26am

re: #379 Pietr

You can't see it either.

383 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:17:37am

re: #381 rancher

You can bet some of those who breed and show rabbits are looking into possibilities for acquiring a few breeding pairs.

384 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:19:12am

re: #382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fortunately-I don't allow beverages around the PC....or I'd have a major cleanup now....Cheers.

385 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:20:04am

Top photo is the previous known species of striped rabbit the Sumatran Striped rabbit bottom is the Laotian(mekong valley) striped rabbit. I think the Laotian one looks better.

386 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:20:53am

re: #385 rancher

Allthough it may just be the lighting.

387 wahabicorridor  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:21:35am

re: #380 CIA Reject

The swine! Doesn't he know that only the Government of the United States can run a Ponzi scheme!

heh. See if you can get your hands on Cindy Adams' column in today's NY Post. She always scoops everybody. Anyhoo, she says that the Madoff boys really were clueless and it was their father that told them the truth because he figured out he was about to be exposed and he wanted to get all the ducks in a row and protect his family as much as he could.

388 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:23:10am

This is probably old news , but there are street demonstrations in Baghdad supporting the shoe thrower. He apparently is now a hero in Arabia.
Is there anything else that we can do for these people?

389 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:23:18am

re: #355 rancher

re: #385 rancher


I think I like the pattern on your #355 better-just IMHO.

390 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:24:48am

OTS Anyone see McCain last night extolling repubilican togetherness with the democrats in their time of need with the Blagovich mess. He also wasn't able to say anything positive about Palin while mentioning other republicans who would be good to run in 2012. This guy is a nitwit.

391 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:25:15am

re: #388 opnion

This is probably old news , but there are street demonstrations in Baghdad supporting the shoe thrower. He apparently is now a hero in Arabia.
Is there anything else that we can do for these people?

yes. We can stay the course! There are street demonstrations daily in places like San Francisco, and we don't abandon that city (although ,, the thought has occurred to me! )

392 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:25:39am

re: #388 opnion

This is probably old news , but there are street demonstrations in Baghdad supporting the shoe thrower. He apparently is now a hero in Arabia.
Is there anything else that we can do for these people?


those were pretty nice moves by the bushman in ducking the shoes huh?

393 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:25:53am

re: #387 rancher Btw genetic testing on samples show that tho closely related they Are seperate species with about 8 million years of divulgance. Both live in wooded mountainous regions of there respective territories.

394 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:26:48am

re: #391 sattv4u2

yes. We can stay the course! There are street demonstrations daily in places like San Francisco, and we don't abandon that city (although ,, the thought has occurred to me! )

Yeah, but it is galling. How much cash have we spent & how many kids have died?

395 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:27:40am

re: #392 apachegunner
George Bush went all Matrixy dodging shoes.

396 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:28:14am

re: #390 apachegunner

OTS Anyone see McCain last night extolling repubilican togetherness with the democrats in their time of need with the Blagovich mess. He also wasn't able to say anything positive about Palin while mentioning other republicans who would be good to run in 2012. This guy is a nitwit.

That's being charitable?

397 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:29:34am

re: #394 opnion

Yeah, but it is galling. How much cash have we spent & how many kids have died?

You asking about Baghdad, or San Francisco?

398 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:29:57am

re: #390 apachegunner

Remember Sean Connery as "indiana Jones' dad-Indy got them off the Zepplin and into a plane slung underneath-and they promptly got Jumped by German fighters. Connery then proceeded to blow away the tail assembly of their plane, while trying to shoot down 1 of the fighters. McCains' behavior is pretty much like that.....Aargh.

399 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:30:15am

re: #397 sattv4u2

You asking about Baghdad, or San Francisco?

And the difference is?

400 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:30:21am

re: #390 apachegunner

OTS Anyone see McCain last night extolling repubilican togetherness with the democrats in their time of need with the Blagovich mess. He also wasn't able to say anything positive about Palin while mentioning other republicans who would be good to run in 2012. This guy is a nitwit.


Palin has more moxie than McCain & put up a better fight.
She wasn't concerned with being loved by Democrats.

401 EmmmieG  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:31:31am

re: #399 Nevergiveup

And the difference is?


Ooh, ooh, easy one. The difference between Baghdad and San Francisco is that there are some people in Baghdad who like the US.

402 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:32:20am

re: #401 EmmmieG

Ooh, ooh, easy one. The difference between Baghdad and San Francisco is that there are some people in Baghdad who like the US.

Good one!

403 Spiritualized  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:32:44am

re: #364 Nevergiveup

Professor Richard Falk, a United Nations envoy who once sparked controversy by comparing Israelis to Nazis, has been barred entry to Israel and was put on a plane bound out of the country early on Monday.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Hope you had a nice trip asshole!

Did Haaretz hold a candlelit vigil in protest at his deportation?

404 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:33:38am

re: #399 Nevergiveup

And the difference is?

the street performers in Baghdad aren't as gay!

405 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:35:16am

Haha Bush's response on the shoe incident. Someone just wanted attention. "It's like when yo udrive down the street and someone waves at ya without all 5 fingers."

406 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:35:21am

re: #404 sattv4u2

the street performers in Baghdad aren't as gay!


Right & Iraq does not have a movie about gay activist Mohammad Milkl.

407 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:39:31am

re: #394 opnion

Yeah, but it is galling. How much cash have we spent & how many kids have died?


Rant on:
I for one would like to know just what the *sshole is so pissed off about.

Is he mad that oil revenue is now going to the people to pay for schools and hospitals instead of to a dictator to pay for palaces and armies of suicide bombers?

Is he mad because his wife and daughter won't be raped in retaliation for some percieved offense he may have commited (like throwing shoes at a press conference)?

Maybe he's an out of work industrial shredder repair man who wants to get back to work cleaning human bone and gristle out of a plastic shredder? Or a grave digger who liked the convenience of digging mass graves?

Or maybe, just maybe, he's some arrogant, impotent, needle-d*cked little schmuck who hasn't got the b*lls to do for himself what the United States military did for him and now he's too embarrassed to admit it., and too unable to just be a man, say "thank you" and take responsibility for maintaining the freedom that Amreican blood and treasure bought for him.

/Rant off

408 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:39:36am

Good morning Lizards....

409 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:40:37am

re: #397 sattv4u2

You asking about Baghdad, or San Francisco?

The fact that the U.S occupies San FRancisco just proves that we are Imperialists. Tree Sitters of Berkley Unite!

410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:41:30am

re: #408 doriangrey

Stay away from my daughter!

411 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:43:20am

re: #408 doriangrey

Morning Dorian FBV lost his daughter and needs help locating her.

412 EmmmieG  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:44:39am

Has anyone yet mentioned they've arrested someone in the Woodburn bombing? No more news than that, although they have a fairly blurry photo of a suspect who may or may not be the guy they arrested.

The arrest was the result of an intensive round-the-clock investigation by an interagency task force comprised of federal, state, county, and city public safety agencies," Marion County Sheriff Russ Isham said.

Yeah, I'll bet it was intensive. They killed cops, and Woodburn is not so big that the police wouldn't have all known each other.

[Link: www.oregonlive.com...]

413 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:44:55am

re: #410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Stay away from my daughter!

/kicks FBV's daughter out of bed.... Daughter? what daughter?

414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:45:26am

re: #413 doriangrey

I shouldn't laugh. heh

415 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:45:35am

Good Morning Lizards.

416 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:46:01am

Heyas dusty. re: #415 Dustyvet

417 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:46:13am

re: #411 rancher

Morning Dorian FBV lost his daughter and needs help locating her.

Blinks incredulously.... And what makes you think I would know anything about that?

418 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:46:34am

re: #416 rancher

Heyas dusty.

Allo Rancher...:)

419 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:46:44am

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.

420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:47:12am

re: #417 doriangrey

Did the Chargers win yesterday?

421 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:47:24am

re: #410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Stay away from my daughter!

Follow your daughter home.

422 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:48:08am

re: #420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did the Chargers win yesterday?

Beats the hell out of me... I gave up any hope for this year and quit watching two or three weeks ago....

423 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:48:18am

re: #419 rancher
By clean burning coal I think he means coal that releases no CO2. But the oxidation of coal a carbon based fossil fuel can't help but produce CO2.

424 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:48:19am

re: #419 rancher

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.

Let's send him to the Moon and let him work on that...

425 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:48:29am

re: #419 rancher

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.

Is he going to tell us where Osama is, or is he waiting until he is sworn in?

426 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:49:08am

re: #394 opnion

Yeah, but it is galling. How much cash have we spent & how many kids have died?

We don't have KIDSin our armed forces we have MEN & WOMEN

427 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:49:12am

re: #419 rancher

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.


My response: That was 40 years ago, back when Americans were smart. Today's America elected you. I'm surprised they can find their way to the bathroom without help...

428 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:49:13am

re: #420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did the Chargers win yesterday?

Yes

429 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:49:36am

re: #424 Dustyvet

Let's send him to the Moon and let him work on that...

It would be NASA's finest mission.... ;)

430 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:49:57am

re: #422 doriangrey

Cowboys beat the mighty Giants.

431 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:22am

re: #429 doriangrey

It would be NASA's finest mission.... ;)

Sure would!

432 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:39am

re: #426 kcladderman

We don't have KIDSin our armed forces we have MEN & WOMEN

And some might bad ass men and women at that.

433 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:39am

mornin Dorian, ready for a lift? re: #408 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards....

434 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:40am

re: #426 kcladderman

We don't have KIDSin our armed forces we have MEN & WOMEN

They're young, when I look back now, when I was in, we were kids.
It is not intended as a slight.

435 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:43am

As the Economy Falters, Obama Ratings Rise one word for that: barf

So many people have so much poured into this man, there is no way he can deliver. I think the speed of his fall will only be matched by the intensity. I am hoping he can deliver on any of these promises he has made, but he is seen by too many people as the bringer of light and happiness. And, when the darkness remains, what will they think then?

436 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:45am

re: #419 rancher

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.

Some great rope line video from Joe Biden's recent Ohio swing, where he was asked by an anti-pollution campaigner about clean coal -- a controversial approach in Democratic circles for which Obama has voiced support, particularly during the Kentucky primary.

Biden's apparent answer: He supports clean coal for China, but not for the United States.

"No coal plants here in America," he said. "Build them, if they're going to build them, over there. Make them clean."

"We’re not supporting clean coal," he said of himself and Obama. They do, on paper, support clean coal.

The answer seems to play into John McCain's case that Obama has been saying "no" to new sources of energy.

In the primary, Biden opposed Obama's push for clean coal, which is seen as a way of maintaining or expanding America's coal-burning power plants -- many of which are in rust belt swing states.

"I don't think there's much of a role for clean coal in energy independence, but I do think there's a significant role for clean coal in the bigger picture of climate change," he told Grist last year. "Clean-coal technology is not the route to go in the United States, because we have other, cleaner alternatives," he said, but added that America should push for a "fundamental change in technology" to clean up China's plants.


SNIP

437 iceman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:51am

Charles was kind enough to post the video of a talk by Judge John Jones on the Kitzmiller case in Dover, Pennsylvania regarding the teaching of evolution

wikipedia entry here