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Open • Sun Dec 14, 2008 at 11:31 pm PST • Views: 185

Everybody’s in despair,
Every girl and boy
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here,
Everybody’s gonna jump for joy.

Bob Dylan

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1 Old Engineer  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:34:27pm

I have no special comment, but wish all readers well, and God be with you and yours in this season of joy as well as sorrow.
Old Engineer

2 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:36:33pm

re: #1 Old Engineer

And all the best to you and yours!

3 Silvergirl  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:38:43pm

re: #1 Old Engineer

I have no special comment, but wish all readers well, and God be with you and yours in this season of joy as well as sorrow.
Old Engineer

As Dickens said: It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.

4 davinvalkri  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:40:50pm

Where is everybody?
Asleep, doy.
Oh well.
Good night everybody.

5 stevieray  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:42:46pm

re: #1 Old Engineer

I have no special comment, but wish all readers well, and God be with you and yours in this season of joy as well as sorrow.
Old Engineer

That comment is special enough. Peace and joy to you and yours!

6 Bob Dillon  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:43:33pm

Good night all and weet dreams.

7 gmsc  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:44:16pm

Since this was so late in the previous thread, and it works better here:

Today is December 15th, so . . .

Helen Slater turns 43
Don Johnson turns 59
Melanie Chartoff turns 60
Thaao Penghlis (You know him as either Count Tony DiMera on Days of Our Lives, or as Nicholas Black from the '80s revival of Mission: Impossible) turns 63
Tim Conway turns 75
Freeman Dyson turns 85
Noted Brazilian architect Oscar Niemeyer turns 101 today!

38 years ago today, the 4th version of the Illinois State Constitution was adopted (Apparently the first 3 weren't corrupt enough for Illinois ;).
47 years ago today, Adolph Eichmann was sentenced to death for his war crimes.
69 years ago today, Gone With The Wind premiered at Loew's Grand Theater in Atlanta, GA.
217 years ago today, Virginia ratified the Bill of Rights, officially making the Bill of Rights law.

Also, the electoral college meets today to vote on the President and Vice President. (U.S. Constitution Bill of Rights: December 15, 1791 - December 15, 2008?)

8 gmsc  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:44:26pm

re: #6 Bobibutu

Good night all and weet dreams.

'Night, Bobibutu!

9 Pietr  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:45:06pm

re: #1 Old Engineer

May you and yours have peace and happiness.

10 Pietr  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:47:37pm

re: #8 gmsc

After I signed off earlier today-did you manage to further the 'perpetual motion' machine using Murphys Law (sub law, 21 IIRC)?

11 Silvergirl  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:47:40pm

re: #7 gmsc

I don't know much about Brazilian architecture, but I applaud Oscar Niemeyer for making 101 years, though I haven't heard of him before now.

Tim Conway 75? Truly?

12 Fearless Fred  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:51:03pm
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here,
Everybody’s gonna jump for joy.

— Bob Dylan


Comic book colors on a violin river cryin leonardo,
Words from out a silk trombone.
I rang a silent bell, beneath a shower of pearls,
In the eagle-winged palace of the queen chinee.

13 gmsc  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:53:55pm

re: #10 Pietr

After I signed off earlier today-did you manage to further the 'perpetual motion' machine using Murphys Law (sub law, 21 IIRC)?

No progress, yet, but I'm trying to see if anything in Popular Science can help.

14 gmsc  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:57:37pm

re: #11 Silvergirl

I don't know much about Brazilian architecture, but I applaud Oscar Niemeyer for making 101 years, though I haven't heard of him before now.

Tim Conway 75? Truly?

As for Oscar Niemeyer, he's very well known in the field of architecture. Here are some of his AMAZING buildings!

Yep - Tin Conway is truly 75!

15 Fearless Fred  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:57:38pm

re: #7 gmsc
yep . . .

re: #56 gmsc

Today in Dead History (Dec 15) ~~~
Concerts Played on Dec 15

1971 (Wed) Hill Auditorium, Ann Arbor, MI
Bertha, Bobby McGee, Mr. Charlie, China> Rider, BIODTL, Hurts Me Too, Cumberland, Jack Straw, You Win Again, Run Rudolph, Playin', BE Women, Mexicali, Big RR, Brokedown, El Paso, Casey Jones

1972 (Fri) Arena, Long Beach, CA
B. T. Wind Box Of Rain Greatest Jack Straw Playin
He's Gone Truckin Other One Dark Star Morning Dew Johnny B. Goode

1978 (Fri) Boutwell Auditorium, Birmingham, AL
Set 1:Promised Shakedown Street Minglewood FOTD El Paso From the Heart Of Me B. E. Women Cassidy Deal
Set 2:Miracle Bertha Good Lovin Roses Terrapin Playin Drumz Stella Blue Truckin Playin U. S. Blues

1986 (Mon) Oakland-Alemeda County Coliseum, Oakland, CA
Set 1:Touch, C. C. Rider, Push, BIODTL> Greatest, Loser,Cassidy, Althea, Esau, Candyman, Let It Grow
Set 2:Iko Iko, L. L. Rain, Black Muddy River, Playin> Terrapin> Drumz> Truckin> Wharf Rat> Playin> Good Lovin Johnny B. Goode
*(first "Push" - first "Black Muddy River")*

1994 (Thu) Sports Arena, Los Angeles, CA
Set 1:Shakedown, Wang Dang Doodle, Lazy River Road, Me & My Uncle@> Mexicali@, Row Jimmy, Promised
Set 2:Foolish Heart, Way To Go, Corinna> Uncle John> Jam> Drumz>Last Time> Morning Dew Liberty
*(Bob Weir played acoustic guitar during "Space" - @ Bobby on acoustic guitar)*

16 Ps2  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:57:55pm

Chicago Trib forced the cutting short of the Chicago corruption investigation

The Real Story Behind the Rushed Blagojevich Bust: How the Feds Are Frustrated by Losing (Maybe) Half of Their Case

Cam Simpson reports on the Rod Blagojevich case in Chicago.

Conventional wisdom holds that U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald ordered the FBI to arrest Rod Blagojevich before sunrise Tuesday in order to stop a crime from being committed. That would have been the sale of the Senate seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama.

But the opposite is true: Members of Fitzgerald’s team are livid the scheme didn’t advance, at least for a little longer, according to some people close to Fitzgerald’s office. Why? Because had the plot unfolded, they might have had an opportunity most feds can only dream of: A chance to catch the sale of a Senate seat on tape, including the sellers and the buyers.

The precise timing of Tuesday’s dramatic, pre-dawn arrest was not dictated by Fitzgerald, nor was it dictated by the pace of Blagojevich’s alleged “crime spree.” It was dictated by the Chicago Tribune, according to people close to the investigation and a careful reading of the FBI’s affidavit in the case.

At Fitzgerald’s request, the paper had been holding back a story since October detailing how a confidante of Blagojevich was cooperating with his office.

Gerould Kern, the Tribune’s editor, said in a statement last week that these requests are granted in what he called isolated instances. “In each case, we strive to make the right decision as reporters and as citizens,” he said.

But editors decided to publish the story on Friday, Dec. 5, ending the Tribune’s own cooperation deal with the prosecutor.

Consider what had been dangling in front of FBI agents and federal prosecutors one day earlier.

Since at least late October, agents had been listening through their headphones to Blagojevich allegedly dream and scheme about a host of potential prizes he could win for the Senate seat, including everything from an ambassadorship to a corporate board slot for his wife. But on Thursday, Dec. 4, he was talking about cash. And a politician talking about trading an official act for cash is a very welcome sound to the ears of an eavesdropping fed. In addition, the Dec. 4 conversation appears to have been the first substantive chat about allegedly selling the seat since Nov. 13.

But on Dec. 4, according to the feds, here’s what they heard: Blagojevich told an adviser he was giving “greater consideration” to one pick for the Senate seat, named “Senate Candidate 5″ by the feds, because of that politician’s willingness to raise money. That man has since been identified as U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., the Chicago Democrat affectionately known in his hometown as Triple J.

Jackson has denied any involvement in such schemes and says he never authorized anyone to deal in such a manner on his behalf. He also said Fitzgerald’s office informed him that he’s not a target in the investigation.

Perhaps even more encouraging to the feds listening in on Dec. 4 was what they knew about the first time such a deal was discussed. About a month earlier, Blagojevich was caught on tape describing an approach by an alleged associate of Jackson. Blagojevich’s now-infamous quote about that meeting had been tantalizing. “We were approached ‘pay to play.’ That, you know, he’d raise me 500 grand. An emissary came. Then the other guy would raise a million, if I made him (Senate Candidate 5) a Senator.”

read the rest

[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]

17 Silvergirl  Sun, Dec 14, 2008 11:57:58pm

G'night all. Ducking out before the fruit cup arrives. I don't know what it is and don't know what to do with it!

18 stevieray  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:00:40am

re: #14 gmsc

As for Oscar Niemeyer, he's very well known in the field of architecture. Here are some of his AMAZING buildings!

Yep - Tin Conway is truly 75!

Oscar Niemayer? Feh. He's a weiner!

/sorry 'bout that, folks

19 Silvergirl  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:00:51am

re: #14 gmsc

As for Oscar Niemeyer, he's very well known in the field of architecture. Here are some of his AMAZING buildings!

Yep - Tin Conway is truly 75!

It looks like smoking didn't slow him down much. What a space ship building that he put out on that cliff.

Good night really and truly.

20 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:01:24am

you've not seen nothing like the mighty Quinn...

/my vote for Bob's best song...


(especially since most of them were overwrought and over hyped. %-)

/white smoke

21 Fearless Fred  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:02:07am

re: #14 gmsc

As for Oscar Niemeyer, he's very well known in the field of architecture. Here are some of his AMAZING buildings!

Truly amazing! beautiful.
Look at the pics while listening to this ... birdsong.

22 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:05:10am

re: #21 Fearless Fred

Truly amazing! beautiful.
Look at the pics while listening to this ... birdsong.

He's 101 - I'm thinking "Touch of Grey" might be more appropriate.
;)

23 Fearless Fred  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:07:27am

re: #20 redc1c4

you've not seen nothing like the mighty Quinn...

/my vote for Bob's best song...

Bob who?

24 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:08:08am

re: #16 Ps2

fits my suspicions as to the sudden blow up of "OH: look what's happening... who ever would have thought that?..."

the media fix is in.

/as always...

25 Fearless Fred  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:08:26am

re: #22 gmsc

haha, lol ... maybe

26 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:10:04am

re: #23 Fearless Fred

Bob who?

Winterland where?

27 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:14:03am

re: #24 redc1c4

fits my suspicions as to the sudden blow up of "OH: look what's happening... who ever would have thought that?..."

the media fix is in.

/as always...

I've been thinking to myself- now why would the media cover this scandal? Seems to me that if Chicago is such a hotbed of corruption, which it is, why wouldn't the local media rise to their (supposedly) noble professional ideals and investigate and bring the corruption down? The only thing I can think of to explain it is an equal level of journalistic corruption in Chicago. Or perhaps journalistic corruption is more widespread...

28 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:14:53am

Nachos and CHEEESE,

Wait...thinking...Maybe some avocado and some TABASCO...no too hot for this thread...damn...maybe...milk-cheese and some...counting posts in my head...now way past what was where I was even going to post...pass!

29 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:15:29am

re: #11 Silvergirl

I don't know much about Brazilian architecture, but I applaud Oscar Niemeyer for making 101 years, though I haven't heard of him before now.

Tim Conway 75? Truly?

You never heard of the Oscar Niemeyer Weiner?

/flees

30 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:16:31am

re: #28 Nightwatch

Nachos and CHEEESE,

Wait...thinking...Maybe some avocado and some TABASCO...no too hot for this thread...damn...maybe...milk-cheese and some...counting posts in my head...now way past what was where I was even going to post...pass!

Willie Pete in with the nachoes & queso...

eat up!

/frag out!

31 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:17:45am

re: #29 SurferDoc

You never heard of the Oscar Niemeyer Weiner?

/flees

32 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:18:46am

re: #30 redc1c4


Ya put up lights in the front yard at least?

33 Fearless Fred  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:19:24am

re: #26 redc1c4

Winterland where?


more than a touch ---


Sweet dreams ... climbin' in to the rack.

Peace and love . . .

34 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:19:26am

Attention all LNDT hands!

Pants Check!

report results by section to Surfer Doc.

35 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:19:43am

re: #30 redc1c4

Now that's a hot queso-not sure what bowl would hold it tho.
/white smoke.

36 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:20:12am

re: #27 Sharmuta

I've been thinking to myself- now why would the media cover this scandal? Seems to me that if Chicago is such a hotbed of corruption, which it is, why wouldn't the local media rise to their (supposedly) noble professional ideals and investigate and bring the corruption down? The only thing I can think of to explain it is an equal level of journalistic corruption in Chicago. Or perhaps journalistic corruption is more widespread...

In other words, my fine fellow Lizards- the media is part of the problem.

Not that it's news to anyone here, but don't let any media mobys convince you otherwise. Spews as much garbage as the NYT, it does.

37 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:21:16am

*moons redc1c4*

38 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:21:28am

re: #34 redc1c4

Attention all LNDT hands!

Pants Check!

report results by section to Surfer Doc.

Pants? You mean the verb?

/White smoke

39 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:21:57am

re: #34 redc1c4


MERCY! CALL THE HAZ-MAT...CALL THE HAZ-MAT!

40 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:22:51am

re: #32 Nightwatch

Ya put up lights in the front yard at least?

i put the sub lights out 300 meters or so out, and backlight to me, so that they serve as range markers and aiming points...

they're in the dark, i'm not.

11B.

41 Fearless Fred  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:23:07am

re: #27 Sharmuta

At least you're asking the right question.
It's a really good question.

42 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:23:14am

re: #36 Sharmuta

Or that in their rush to publish-nothing is too secret, or important to security, that it'll stop their attempt at a Pulitzer.

43 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:24:20am

re: #40 redc1c4


DUDE!

Most sitrep...but tis the season...

44 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:24:53am

re: #37 SurferDoc

*moons redc1c4*

and here i thought it was a full moon...

i guess deflation has taken it's toll.

45 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:27:40am

It's...um...fruit. And you eat it.

/unless it's red-enhanced.
//in which case you inject it...

46 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:28:34am

re: #42 Pietr The rush to publish against the Bush admin may have been what you say I doubt however any wrong Obama does will be exposed by the media. His failures will be attributed to bush and any lasting effects in Iraq from Bush's presidency will be attributed to Obama. For evidence of this look at how many democrat scandals leave out political parties while making excuses for the Perpetrator, whereas any republican who steps the slightest out of line recieves more airtime than Obama bought to get elected.

47 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:28:40am

re: #43 Nightwatch

DUDE!

Most sitrep...but tis the season...

'tis *always* the season...

kill something every day, no matter how small, in order to maintain tactical proficiency.

have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

48 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:30:09am

re: #45 littleoldlady

Most awesome,

Want the Holiday fruit-cup with the dingle-berrys.. :0

49 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:30:17am

re: #45 littleoldlady

It's...um...fruit. And you eat it.

/unless it's red-enhanced.
//in which case you inject it...

You also ding it.

/littleoldlady- too nice to tell ya to ding the fruitcup, but I'm not

50 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:30:36am

re: #37 SurferDoc

*moons redc1c4*

/flash bang into your cubicle

(free hemorrhoid cure in the process! %-)

51 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:31:47am

I asked my Magic 8-ball "Will i be miserable the next 4 years?" Reply was "Most likely."

52 SurferDoc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:32:10am

re: #50 redc1c4

/flash bang into your cubicle

(free hemorrhoid cure in the process! %-)

LOL! *Reaches for fire extinguisher and Preparation H*

53 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:32:14am

re: #47 redc1c4


Range time in the snow always throws off your score...unless you live there!

54 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:32:38am

re: #50 redc1c4
Wouldn't that actually cause a flare up red?

55 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:33:11am

re: #45 littleoldlady

It's...um...fruit. And you eat it.

/unless it's red-enhanced.
//in which case you inject it...

and/or eat it/drink it/smoke it/wear it...

we strive to enhance our customer's experience by ensuring their 'fruitcup' experience exceeds their regular "on line" expectation...

/white smoke

56 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:34:00am

re: #49 Sharmuta

You also ding it.

/littleoldlady- too nice to tell ya to ding the fruitcup, but I'm not

arewe supposed to ding LoL too?

/white smoke

57 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:34:45am

re: #48 Nightwatch

Dingle berry?

Sharmuta,

Ah, but I have the most awesome avatar... ;-)

© Sharmuta

58 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:35:11am

re: #56 redc1c4

A thumbs up, but no dings on the fruitcupmobile. Auto body repair isn't cheap.

59 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:35:21am

re: #49 Sharmuta

You also ding it.

/littleoldlady- too nice to tell ya to ding the fruitcup, but I'm not

Ding the board in time for fruitcup!
Fa la la la, la la la la!

60 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:35:59am

re: #51 rancher

Stocked up on some almond wood for the next few days. Could be very cold for this time of year. Some are saying a 50 year cold cycle is kicking in about now..

61 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:36:40am

re: #59 gmsc

Ding the board in time for fruitcup!
Fa la la la, la la la la!

If it's red's, then you can shoot up!
Fa la la la, la la la la!

62 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:37:11am

re: #60 Nightwatch Yeah but its just proving global warming exists.

63 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:38:10am

re: #62 rancher

Beat me to it...Aargh.

64 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:38:54am

I kinda wonder if those Ice mass charts Walter found accidentally reverted back to September again.

65 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:39:22am
66 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:40:12am

re: #62 rancher

Can I SNARK? Or would the Gore-ical be rage-a-maging?

67 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:41:23am

re: #57 littleoldlady

I'm so glad you like it- I love it myself. I told NY Nana to look at it, and she got a chuckle out of it too.

And red- of course you ding the fruitcup. I'd ding you too, but you never give me the chance.

68 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:43:29am

re: #67 Sharmuta

Yeah. By the time I finish red's fruitcup I don't know what "ding" is.

/or fruitcup, for that matter...

69 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:43:55am

re: #68 littleoldlady

Yeah. By the time I finish red's fruitcup I don't know what "ding" is.

/or fruitcup, for that matter...

That's the best part! ;p

70 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:44:01am

re: #60 Nightwatch

Is almond wood a hard wood? Or is it burnt for fragrance? Many years ago, when I was a boy scout, we found a downed locustwood (IIRC) tree. Got a 2 man crosscut saw, and cut it up some (took forever); then split sections for firewood. Talk about being prepared-that night the temps dropped into the 30's, and we were bunking in 3 sided adirondack huts. That hardwood kept us semi-comfortable, and needed little replenishing.

71 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:46:32am

re: #63 Pietr

Beat me to it...Aargh.

You're not trying to drag pirates into this are you? ;)

72 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:48:09am

re: #67 Sharmuta

I'm so glad you like it- I love it myself. I told NY Nana to look at it, and she got a chuckle out of it too.

And red- of course you ding the fruitcup. I'd ding you too, but you never give me the chance.

i'd cheerfully ding you, but that would ruin you for normal men...and then where would we be?

/white smoke

73 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:48:12am

re: #68 littleoldlady

Yeah. By the time I finish red's fruitcup I don't know what "ding" is.

/or fruitcup, for that matter...

Related to that, here's a Google search for: +ding +"fruit cup"

The results are somewhat interesting - try the Google Image Search!

74 Spiritualized  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:49:53am

Will Honda save us from the Saudis/Islam?

Top Gear - Honda FCX Clarity - hydrogen fuel cell powered car

75 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:50:35am

re: #73 gmsc

Chicken and fruitcup?

/okay
//I guess
;-)

76 Nightwatch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:51:07am

re: #70 Pietr

To reply,
Almond wood burns hot and gives a semi-sweet smoke Little compared to the more lusty woods like Oak. There are other woods that burn way too fast and leave piles of ash by comparison...but my opinion..:)

77 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:11am

re: #70 Pietr

Is almond wood a hard wood? Or is it burnt for fragrance? Many years ago, when I was a boy scout, we found a downed locustwood (IIRC) tree. Got a 2 man crosscut saw, and cut it up some (took forever); then split sections for firewood. Talk about being prepared-that night the temps dropped into the 30's, and we were bunking in 3 sided adirondack huts. That hardwood kept us semi-comfortable, and needed little replenishing.

almond is a hard wood, and it should be burned to cook BBQ...like oak, pecan, etc... burn gas to stay warm.

78 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:21am

re: #74 Spiritualized

"We're sorry, this video is no longer available."

/that's what it say, Spirit

79 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:22am

re: #71 Sharmuta

Wasn't intending to-you opened it-but (IIRC) the UN has (GASP) given permission for hitting them on the ground in Somalia. I'm betting if we. or anyone else does, there'll be a hue and cry about innocent civilians being hit instead. The world media seems to idolize evil, while demonizing those who fight it-and you have to wonder what is their problem.

80 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:32am

re: #75 littleoldlady

Chicken and fruitcup?

/okay
//I guess
;-)

If they're Wing-Dings!

Hey, does this sound familiar?

“She was reet,
Discrete,
She was a real treat,
Little Old Lady…
Keep it neat,
where the elite
meet Little Old Lady
Never seemed to quite run dry
Fruit cup ne’er in short supply
She’s Ad Libbing on the fly,
Little
Old Lady…
No elite meat
with the Fruit Cup Suite
Always a Lady
don’t let it get shady…
In the morning,
right at TWO
There’s one for me
and more for you,
and all the rest,
Little Old Lady!”

81 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:32am

re: #72 redc1c4

You are a brutal tease.

82 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:40am

re: #70 Pietr
If I remember right it's a fairly hard wood and burns well. On top of having a pleasant smell.

83 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:55am

re: #73 gmsc

Related to that, here's a Google search for: +ding +"fruit cup"

The results are somewhat interesting - try the Google Image Search!

LMAO! I loved this one.

84 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:52:55am

re: #78 Karridine

"We're sorry, this video is no longer available."

/that's what it say, Spirit

conspiracy!

85 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:55:49am

Damn, I am going to miss Dick Cheney.

86 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:56:21am

re: #84 gmsc

Hey, GMSC! THANKS for posting that link to some nearly-unknown celebrity singer... he must be a Cult Hero, of sorts... :D

87 Spiritualized  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:56:51am

re: #78 Karridine

"We're sorry, this video is no longer available."

/that's what it say, Spirit

Hmm, maybe it hasn't propagated through YouTube yet, the show itself was only broadcast last night so the clip is very recent. Try this one -Top Gear- James May- The Future of motoring (Honda FCX Clarity Hydrogen)

88 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:57:14am

re: #86 Karridine

Hey, GMSC! THANKS for posting that link to some nearly-unknown celebrity singer... he must be a Cult Hero, of sorts... :D

...and apparently he's modest, too!

89 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:58:15am

re: #74 Spiritualized

FABULOUS!
/what's the downside?

90 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:00:17am

re: #80 gmsc

Oh yeah! :-)

Karridine! :-)

91 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:01:03am

re: #87 Spiritualized

Hmm, maybe it hasn't propagated through YouTube yet, the show itself was only broadcast last night so the clip is very recent. Try this one -Top Gear- James May- The Future of motoring (Honda FCX Clarity Hydrogen)

That's an interesting video.

/Especially if you set it into a loop from 2:20 to 2:27 ;)

92 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:02:06am

BBIAB updating computer here at work.

93 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:04:48am

re: #81 Sharmuta

You are a brutal tease.

that's a truly harsh toke...

but at least we will always have Paris. %-)

/white smoke

94 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:07:54am
95 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:07:56am

Why do Californians get that car, but the rest of America is denied?

And wouldn't adding more water to the air increase the most common greenhouse gas- water vapor?

Don't forget, the largest contributor of CO2 is the ocean.

BAN THE OCEAN!

96 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:10:10am

I am really angry today. The stupid Australian Labor government is finally going ahead with it's ideologically based Carbon Emissions Trading Scheme. This is going to cost jobs and put up electricity prices. Even with the compensation in the plan for pensioners and low-income wage earners it is still going to be a net loss for Australians.

Even if (and that's a huge IF) global warming is true AND CHINA AND INDIA DO NOT FOLLOW it is a waste of time and effort.

If Australia were to disappear tomorrow the growth of China IN NINE MONTHS would be enough to fill the gap left.

And all this in a time of economic downturn. Really smart!

Sorry for the rant.

97 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:10:14am

re: #94 gmsc

I'm famous! ;-)

98 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:10:42am

re: #95 Sharmuta

Why do Californians get that car, but the rest of America is denied?

And wouldn't adding more water to the air increase the most common greenhouse gas- water vapor?

Don't forget, the largest contributor of CO2 is the ocean.

BAN THE OCEAN!

You forget - CO2 is only evil when it's produced by someone that you can tax!

Studies show that the threat of anthropogenic global warming caused by CO2 could be completely eliminated if everyone who believed in it would simply stop exhaling.

99 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:11:23am

re: #97 littleoldlady

I'm famous! ;-)

You must be!

100 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:12:04am

My boss bought a book for me for my birthday, "The Reagan I Knew", by William F. Buckley Jr.

Is it a good read?

101 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:13:03am

re: #100 TheMatrix31

My boss bought a book for me for my birthday, "The Reagan I Knew", by William F. Buckley Jr.

Is it a good read?

Haven't read it, but it's about Reagan written by Buckley. Odds are, it's fantastic.

102 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:13:29am

re: #99 gmsc

You must be!

you left out "fabulous"

103 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:13:59am

re: #98 gmsc

Not to mention, methane and cow flatulence! Wonder if Beano would work on cows?

104 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:14:27am

Only reason I ask is that I'm not much of a reader, but obviously I'm into politics. In the card, he wrote "Kick back, make yourself a drink, and read this."

Maybe I'll do that!

105 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:14:55am

re: #100 TheMatrix31

My boss bought a book for me for my birthday, "The Reagan I Knew", by William F. Buckley Jr.

Is it a good read?

your boss bought you a book? that's likely grounds for a lawsuit...

/go for the $$$!
white smoke

106 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:16:15am

re: #105 redc1c4

your boss bought you a book? that's likely grounds for a lawsuit...

/go for the $$$!
white smoke

Ya right, he has no money. Baskin-Robbins is a worthless entity nowadays, and the corporation is run terribly. I've been telling him for 2 years now to sell his store.

107 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:16:26am

re: #104 TheMatrix31

And how was the birthday, Kiddo?

108 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:16:31am

re: #104 TheMatrix31

Only reason I ask is that I'm not much of a reader, but obviously I'm into politics. In the card, he wrote "Kick back, make yourself a drink, and read this."

Maybe I'll do that!

harassment suit in progress...

either that or it's a cheap pick up trick.

109 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:18:09am

re: #96 Crux Australis

I am really angry today. The stupid Australian Labor government is finally going ahead with it's ideologically based Carbon Emissions Trading Scheme. This is going to cost jobs and put up electricity prices. Even with the compensation in the plan for pensioners and low-income wage earners it is still going to be a net loss for Australians.

Even if (and that's a huge IF) global warming is true AND CHINA AND INDIA DO NOT FOLLOW it is a waste of time and effort.

If Australia were to disappear tomorrow the growth of China IN NINE MONTHS would be enough to fill the gap left.

And all this in a time of economic downturn. Really smart!

Sorry for the rant.

Tim Blair has an interesting round up of the reactions already.

110 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:18:28am

re: #107 Sharmuta

And how was the birthday, Kiddo?

It was alright. Steakhouse was excellent, bar was pretty worthless. I definitely enjoyed the food more. I guess I'm a bit too mature for the "usual" 21 celebration.

111 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:18:58am

re: #106 TheMatrix31

Ya right, he has no money. Baskin-Robbins is a worthless entity nowadays, and the corporation is run terribly. I've been telling him for 2 years now to sell his store.

bummer: i like BR... could you please get them to make the Strawberry ice from back in the day?

/white smoke

112 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:20:02am

re: #111 redc1c4

bummer: i like BR... could you please get them to make the Strawberry ice from back in the day?

/white smoke

Strawberry ice? Like a strawberry sorbet?

113 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:20:28am

re: #110 TheMatrix31

It was alright. Steakhouse was excellent, bar was pretty worthless. I definitely enjoyed the food more. I guess I'm a bit too mature for the "usual" 21 celebration.

You mean you didn't puke? Blasphemy!

114 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:22:18am

re: #87 Spiritualized

THAT link plays, Kiddo! Thankee kindly

115 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:24:20am

re: #110 TheMatrix31

It was alright. Steakhouse was excellent, bar was pretty worthless. I definitely enjoyed the food more. I guess I'm a bit too mature for the "usual" 21 celebration.

I've seen it time and again - people spend much of their teen years trying to sneak drinks, and think they really like drinking.

Then, they turn 21, no one has a problem with them drinking (as long as they don't drive), and the thrill of drinking wears off.

116 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:24:24am

re: #88 gmsc

Truly a MOST HUMBLE person, except when singing about Little Olde Ladye! :D

117 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:24:25am

re: #113 Sharmuta

You mean you didn't puke? Blasphemy!

I threw up a bit after taking one shot. I realized that I can't do shots of alcohol, only mixed drinks that I enjoy. First thing at the bar, my buddy goes up and says "Hey, this guy's turning 21, make him something to get messed up good." Next thing I notice, the bartender is getting a huge bottle of tequila and pouring it into the cup. I LOATHE tequila. I ended up drinking half the drink then gave it away. Ended up getting a kamikaze shot and a kamikaze drink and the shot didn't go so well. After that, I finished my drink and had like two more kamikaze drinks. I was buzzing but nothing spectacular.

118 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:25:04am

re: #115 gmsc

I've seen it time and again - people spend much of their teen years trying to sneak drinks, and think they really like drinking.

Then, they turn 21, no one has a problem with them drinking (as long as they don't drive), and the thrill of drinking wears off.

Meh, I never thought it was a big deal, trust me. I'm a food person. I'd rather have a plate of fries than have a drunken night out.

119 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:26:58am

re: #96 Crux Australis

I am really angry today. The stupid Australian Labor government is finally going ahead with it's ideologically based Carbon Emissions Trading Scheme. This is going to cost jobs and put up electricity prices. Even with the compensation in the plan for pensioners and low-income wage earners it is still going to be a net loss for Australians.

Even if (and that's a huge IF) global warming is true AND CHINA AND INDIA DO NOT FOLLOW it is a waste of time and effort.

If Australia were to disappear tomorrow the growth of China IN NINE MONTHS would be enough to fill the gap left.

And all this in a time of economic downturn. Really smart!

Sorry for the rant.

Hi Crux morning Lizards. With Stuart Clarke being out do to injury that must really ruin the rest of your day. Who is Peter Siddle? Never heard of him. Do you guys rate him as a good replacement?

120 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:27:43am

re: #112 TheMatrix31

Strawberry ice? Like a strawberry sorbet?

naw... this was pretty much just strawberry pieces and water...think lightly diced strawberries churned to a sherbet/sorbet consistency.

121 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:29:02am

re: #120 redc1c4

naw... this was pretty much just strawberry pieces and water...think lightly diced strawberries churned to a sherbet/sorbet consistency.

Hmm...interesting. The closest thing we have to that is our strawberry sorbet, which basically tastes like frozen strawberry puree with chunks of strawberry in there. No dairy.

122 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:32:44am

re: #118 TheMatrix31

Meh, I never thought it was a big deal, trust me. I'm a food person. I'd rather have a plate of fries than have a drunken night out.

Oh - you're 21 now, so we can tell you the secret ways of ordering fries at In 'N Out Burger:

Fries "Light" - Decreased cooking time for a softer product.
Fries "Well" - Increased cooking time for a crispier product.
Fries "No Boat" - Fries are placed directly onto the serving tray instead of the paper "boat".
"Animal Style" - Cheese, spread, and grilled onions.
Cheese fries - called fries with cheese

123 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:33:49am

re: #121 TheMatrix31

Hmm...interesting. The closest thing we have to that is our strawberry sorbet, which basically tastes like frozen strawberry puree with chunks of strawberry in there. No dairy.

this was an item back when i was young and had a future: early/mid 70's...

they don't make it anymore, near as i can tell.

124 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:34:36am

*starting to get nervous about fruitcup*

125 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:36:30am

re: #122 gmsc

Oh - you're 21 now, so we can tell you the secret ways of ordering fries at In 'N Out Burger:

Fries "Light" - Decreased cooking time for a softer product.
Fries "Well" - Increased cooking time for a crispier product.
Fries "No Boat" - Fries are placed directly onto the serving tray instead of the paper "boat".
"Animal Style" - Cheese, spread, and grilled onions.
Cheese fries - called fries with cheese

I could go for some In-N-Out at the moment, even though we had the world's amount of food tonight.

Tornado warning in Santa Barbara...wtf?

126 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:36:46am

re: #124 Sharmuta

*starting to get nervous about fruitcup*

Hysteria, When You're Near

127 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:37:22am

re: #124 Sharmuta

I don't blame you...

I ALMOST FELL ASLEEP!

128 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:38:47am

re: #127 littleoldlady

I don't blame you...

I ALMOST FELL ASLEEP!

We should all be glad that this guy isn't in charge of fruitcup!

129 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:38:58am

re: #127 littleoldlady

I was thinking red and Matrix were going to do some weird puree thing.

130 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:41:03am

re: #91 gmsc

That's an interesting video.

/Especially if you set it into a loop from 2:20 to 2:27 ;)

VERY INTERESTING! Dang, GmSc, I truly hope this Honda is pointing the way for the next decade! Today California, tomorrow all America, THEN the Oil Emirates can suck hydrogen day in and day out, with my blessings!

136HP, and its NOT a '...plastic snot-box...'

131 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:41:30am

re: #129 Sharmuta

I was thinking red and Matrix were going to do some weird puree thing.

With fruitcup & fries?

132 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:41:40am

re: #122 gmsc

Oh - you're 21 now, so we can tell you the secret ways of ordering fries at In 'N Out Burger:

Fries "Light" - Decreased cooking time for a softer product.
Fries "Well" - Increased cooking time for a crispier product.
Fries "No Boat" - Fries are placed directly onto the serving tray instead of the paper "boat".
"Animal Style" - Cheese, spread, and grilled onions.
Cheese fries - called fries with cheese

shit... now i'm hongree!

133 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:42:56am

re: #128 gmsc

Could be worse...

/yeowch! painful!

134 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:43:01am

re: #132 redc1c4

shit... now i'm hongree!

We've got fruitcup in 20 minutes, but I don't know if it comes "Animal Style".

135 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:43:18am

re: #132 redc1c4

Serves you right, Red!

136 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:43:29am

re: #131 gmsc

With fruitcup & fries?

and a frag on the side...

137 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:44:41am

re: #134 gmsc

We've got fruitcup in 20 minutes, but I don't know if it comes "Animal Style".

Fruitcup 'Animal Style' is with pickled onions, tamarinds, small chunks of candied ginger and dill-green-peppers... Mmmm, yumm!

138 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:45:02am

re: #135 Karridine

Serves you right, Red!

easy for yo to say: you can't even get my name right...

red

139 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:46:45am

re: #133 littleoldlady

Could be worse...

/yeowch! painful!

Have you seen this version of their Christmas Song?

140 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:47:45am

re: #138 redc1c4

Red Butler?

reD Batry?

rEd Wozzisname of the Fantastic Fore?

/... I better apolomogize before I utterly destroy a once-profound friendship...

141 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:48:17am

re: #139 gmsc

MY FAVORITE CHRISTMAS SONG!

142 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:48:31am
143 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:49:49am

re: #137 Karridine

Fruitcup 'Animal Style' is with pickled onions, tamarinds, small chunks of candied ginger and dill-green-peppers... Mmmm, yumm!

sounds like you just want a "PickaPeppa" fruitcup...

you will have to talk with the legal team and determine your next move in achieving your goal.

144 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:50:01am

re: #139 gmsc

What's the movie called?

/netflix, here I come!

145 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:51:13am

re: #144 littleoldlady

What's the movie called?

/netflix, here I come!

It's just called "Alvin and the Chipmunks". It was released in 2007, so it should be available on Netflix by now.

146 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:52:25am

re: #140 Karridine

Red Butler?

reD Batry?

rEd Wozzisname of the Fantastic Fore?

/... I better apolomogize before I utterly destroy a once-profound friendship...

how about just plain old "red"?

nuthin fancy, nuthin contrived... damn sure no caps. %-)

147 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:52:30am

re: #144 littleoldlady

What's the movie called?

/netflix, here I come!

If you haven't heard of it, here's the full trailer.

148 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:53:31am
149 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:54:14am

Morning lizards! Nothing like popping by in time for some fruitcup...

150 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:54:15am

re: #119 Erik The Red

Hi Crux morning Lizards. With Stuart Clarke being out do to injury that must really ruin the rest of your day. Who is Peter Siddle? Never heard of him. Do you guys rate him as a good replacement?

Don't know much about Siddle other than he plays for the state of Victoria. The curator of the WACA ground in Perth is predicting a bouncy, unpredictable pitch. Should be interesting.

Predicting and unpredictable pitch. ROFL

151 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:54:59am

re: #147 gmsc

THANKS! :-)

152 rightside  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:56:12am

Hmm.. scrambling between threads to find the fruitcup, but can't find it!

{lol}, you are coming on earlier and earlier!

153 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:56:43am

re: #142 gmsc

For some reason-the 'idiot' bell reminded me totally of "Mr Bean"...LOL.

154 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:57:32am

re: #148 ploome hineni

every reply i have to that will get me deleted. there is a reason my family left the "beloved old country"...

155 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:57:47am

re: #153 Pietr

For some reason-the 'idiot' bell reminded me totally of "Mr Bean"...LOL.

I never thought about that, but you're right!

156 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:58:46am

re: #150 Crux Australis

Don't know much about Siddle other than he plays for the state of Victoria. The curator of the WACA ground in Perth is predicting a bouncy, unpredictable pitch. Should be interesting.

Predicting and unpredictable pitch. ROFL

Might work to S.A's favour. If Smith wins the toss and bowls first. Good luck look forward to speaking to you and aussie Wednesday evening to hear your take on the days play. I will be sleeping through most of it.

157 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:59:27am

re: #152 rightside

I know. :-( I woke up yesterday. :-( :-( :-(

/and here I am HINENI...
// PLOOMIE! :-)

158 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

159 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:00:16am

Morning lol. Thanks for fruitcup.

160 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:01:07am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Worth the wait every time!

161 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:01:35am

Thankee for fruitcup lol.

/just can't get into the discussions lately. :(

162 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:02:20am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Good morning.

As for my favorite Christmas song...it's definitely this version of Carol of the Bells

163 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:02:38am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Yum - perfect!

164 rightside  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:02:40am

re: #158 littleoldlady


Thanks lol!

165 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:02:43am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

as usual... it tastes funny.

166 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:02:47am

re: #159 Erik The Red

You got a bonus ding for my inability to correctly ding littleoldlady.

I blame red.

167 Erik The Red  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:04:05am

re: #166 Sharmuta

You got a bonus ding for my inability to correctly ding littleoldlady.

I blame red.

Thank maybe someone will fix. Hope not/

168 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:05:30am

Eric! :-)
Fenway! :-)
BlueCanuck! :-)
Matrix! :-)
gmsc! :-)
red! :-)
Sharmuta! :-) ;-)

169 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:06:15am

re: #158 littleoldlady

Gracias, lol-fruitcup and 'Carol of the Bells'-seems a little more like Christmas, now.

170 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:08:01am

Pietr! :-)

re: #162 TheMatrix31

That's great! :-)

171 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:08:11am

I just saw the ISS go across the night sky. Impressive.

172 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:08:38am

re: #167 Erik The Red

Thank maybe someone will fix. Hope not/

I hope not too. No need for correction.

173 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:09:52am
174 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:11:11am

re: #162 TheMatrix31

Whoa! That is SOME jumping, pounding, dare I say rocking version of Carol of the Bells!

175 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:12:45am

re: #173 Sharmuta

For my first 8 years here in Thailand, I was unable to hear that song even once...

And you have chosen a prime and beautiful version, Sharmie...

176 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:13:24am

re: #174 Karridine

Whoa! That is SOME jumping, pounding, dare I say rocking version of Carol of the Bells!

Those guys are bad ass, the Trans-Siberian Orchestra. You should hear their other stuff.

177 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:13:28am

re: #175 Karridine

The first time I heard it, Kelly gave me goosebumps.

178 Karridine  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:16:09am

re: #177 Sharmuta

The very THOUGHT of the Blessed Beauty being born to humankind gives me goosebumps, Miz Sharm...

179 rightside  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:16:27am

re: #176 TheMatrix31


The Savatage days?

180 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:18:22am

re: #179 rightside

The Savatage days?

I've actually never heard anything from Savatage..

181 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:23:30am

re: #178 Karridine

It does, K.

182 rightside  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:25:54am

Nothing heard, out.

183 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:27:08am

Dang...where's 3 Wood when you need him? If an American (or Canadian) company is traded on an overseas stock exchange (Hong Kong, Sydney or Frankfurt, for instance) how indicative is that stock's performance in that market of how it will perform on a North American exchange later on that same day- is it simply reacting to domestic forces or do the wider market trends play a role in that?

184 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:29:31am

re: #183 Fenway_Nation

Which company? Chances are it will perform the same on the U.S. exchange.

/but not always

185 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:30:58am

re: #178 Karridine

The very THOUGHT of the Blessed Beauty being born to humankind gives me goosebumps, Miz Sharm...

Recently, they did a person-on-the street survey, just to see how many American Idol contestants people could name (winners or not).

About 95% of the time, at least 1 of only 3 different names were recall: Kelly Clarkson, Sanjaya and William Hung.

186 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:33:13am

re: #184 littleoldlady

A bunch- Union Pacific, Kansas City Southern and Canadian Pacific in the railway category; Rio Tinto, Wheaton Silver and Freeport McMoran in the mining category and Harvest and CrossTex in the energy category...

/trying to see if I can pick up any discernable pattern in the 'not always' department

187 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:35:19am

re: #185 gmsc

Speaking of American Idol contestants...

Here's another favorite Christmas song of mine, a more recent classic.

188 gmsc  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:39:22am

Well, all this yummy fruitcup and Christmas music is a little too relaxing at 2:30 in the morning.

Good night, all! Merry Christmas!

189 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:41:02am

re: #186 Fenway_Nation

Sounds like across-the-board losses. It could just be "their" market. The NYSE is showing a tiny loss (futures) right now.

190 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:41:28am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

191 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:44:07am

Night gmsc.

/busy dealing with one of the universes "better" idiots.

192 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:44:54am

re: #189 littleoldlady

Yea...looks like I can forget about precious metals for the time being, too.

193 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:48:14am

re: #191 BlueCanuck

Aww- too bad, because we miss you!

194 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:48:35am

Good morning, Lizards.

195 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:49:06am

re: #191 BlueCanuck


The Universe finally made one, huh?

196 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:49:15am

re: #193 Sharmuta

I am sorry about that. I do pay attention though.

197 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:50:04am

re: #195 Fenway_Nation

The universe is always making them. I just happened to get stuck with the latest incarnation. Can barely follow printed instructions.

198 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:50:25am

Oh yeah, good morning {goddess}. :)

199 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:52:24am

re: #192 Fenway_Nation

Yea...looks like I can forget about precious metals for the time being, too.

That's 'cause the dollar got stronger.

/that wasn't supposed to happen...

New rules for the U.S. economy: There are no rules.

200 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:52:43am

re: #198 BlueCanuck

Oh yeah, good morning {goddess}. :)

{BlueCanuck}

201 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:52:48am

re: #197 BlueCanuck


Well...you're in Canada, right? Are you sure those aren't the French instructions you're trying to read?

202 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:52:58am

goddess! :-)

203 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:55:21am

re: #199 littleoldlady

And me with most of my spare money in a boring, vanilla CD (granted one with an APY of 5%) 'til April.

I was able to get some silver, however...

204 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:55:25am

re: #201 Fenway_Nation

Me read? No it read. And they aren't in french, because I wrote them myself. Step by step of what to do and no big words.

/I swear sometimes that their I.Q.'s are in the moron range.

205 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:58:51am

re: #96 Crux Australis

I am really angry today. The stupid Australian Labor government is finally going ahead with it's ideologically based Carbon Emissions Trading Scheme. This is going to cost jobs and put up electricity prices. Even with the compensation in the plan for pensioners and low-income wage earners it is still going to be a net loss for Australians.

Even if (and that's a huge IF) global warming is true AND CHINA AND INDIA DO NOT FOLLOW it is a waste of time and effort.

If Australia were to disappear tomorrow the growth of China IN NINE MONTHS would be enough to fill the gap left.

And all this in a time of economic downturn. Really smart!

Sorry for the rant.

Hi Crux! I'm ranting with you :-)

We're the poor idiots who'll foot the bill - no kiddies in childcare, no welfare, still working but not earning so much that we can afford tax avoidance...yes, the class of people hated by the left it seems -double (modest) income, no dependents, mortgage paying, no tax relief in sight and NOW this tax !

206 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:00:40am

Good morning, goddess.

207 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:00:52am

re: #205 aussiemagpie

Coming soon to the good ol' US of A, I fear.

208 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:09:10am

{littleoldlady}

209 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:11:01am

re: #207 Fenway_Nation

Coming soon to the good ol' US of A, I fear.

Hi, nothing like sharing the pain eh? :-)

210 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:11:29am

The OT story that moves me the most is Joseph. And this song from Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat has always given me chills.

Close Every Door

/Showtunes for lol

211 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:12:39am

re: #168 littleoldlady

Hello {littleoldlady} :-)

212 nonic  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:18:43am

Good morning, people.

I hope everyone has a good ELECTORAL COLLEGE DAY!

Yes, today's the day Barack Hussein Obama will be elected President of the United States.

:-)

I wonder if Michelle gets another ring for this one.

Hey, it's okay to use his middle name now, you know.

213 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:20:57am

{Sharmuta}
{nonic}
{aussiemagpie}
{fenway nation}

214 nonic  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:21:00am

re: #205 aussiemagpie

QUOTE no kiddies in childcare, no welfare, still working but not earning so much that we can afford tax avoidance...yes, the class of people hated by the left it seems -double (modest) income, no dependents, mortgage paying, no tax relief in sight END QUOTE

Oh, no, Honey. You're the people the Lefts LOVES! LOL

215 LizardBennet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:22:06am

Good morning Lizards. Feeling like I have to vent. Between his divisive actions during the 2000 elections, and his global warning fearmongering and hypocitical lifestyle, I think Algore is a turd. I wish I could be more eloquent, but there you have it. I really can't stand Algore, and I am so glad I voted for GW Bush (both times). ***sigh*** am I too late for fruit cup? I think I could use some.

216 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:22:54am

Just thinking about the shoe throwing incident in Iraq.

America got rid of one Hussein in Iraq only to get another one in the White House. lol

217 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:23:17am

re: #215 LizardBennet

Fruitcup's always in the same place it always is- 2:00. Be sure to give it a ding.

218 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:23:35am

re: #213 goddessoftheclassroom

{Sharmuta}
{nonic}
{aussiemagpie}
{fenway nation}

Hi {goddessoftheclassroom} Good to see you!

219 TheMatrix31  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:24:12am

lol I just saw the shoe thing...ridiculous.

220 nonic  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:24:13am

Hiya, goddess. And littleoldlady, too.

Can somebody tell me when Hannukha is this year?

221 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:25:09am

re: #214 nonic

QUOTE no kiddies in childcare, no welfare, still working but not earning so much that we can afford tax avoidance...yes, the class of people hated by the left it seems -double (modest) income, no dependents, mortgage paying, no tax relief in sight END QUOTE

Oh, no, Honey. You're the people the Lefts LOVES! LOL

LOL! Hi {nonic} And I'll complete your sentence...

You're the people the Lefts LOVES! ,,TO FLEECE !

222 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:25:41am

Here's the thing, folks- littleoldlady's too nice to ask you to ding up the fruitcup. But- how else would we know you grabbed a fruitcup unless you ding it up, huh? Besides- she's a nice lady, no matter what her avatar says.

223 nonic  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:29:44am

re: #221 aussiemagpie

{aussie} :-)

224 LizardBennet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:31:16am

re: #216 Crux Australis
It's a phychological pathology if you ask me. During WWII we never would have elected a President named Adolf Hisler--but that's basically what we're doing now. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, my ass. This is culture we're talking about. Our cuture is under seige. Before the PC movement people would have had the common sense to question how the cultural backgound of a candidate would effect his presidency. But that sensible approach as been done away with. Islam is at war with us, that much is clear, So instead of effectively figting back, we elect someone who probably has sympathies towards the people we are at war with because of his upbringing.

225 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:32:59am

re: #210 Sharmuta

Andrew Lloyd Weber-so talented. I found 'Cats' a beautifully crafted work of art. 'Grizzabella' and 'Memory' were haunting-saw 'Cats' 3 times in London, and twice here in San Antonio-always a joy to view the performance.

But in the theme of the season, and somewhat classical, thought I'd offer up my own choice. Sang this so many times as soprano soloist when I was a kid-and I always teared up. But this version is from Hitman .

226 LizardBennet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:33:11am

re: #220 nonic
21st to the 29th of December

227 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:34:42am

re: #220 nonic

Starts on the 22nd-according to my calendar.

228 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:35:33am

Good morning all from a balmy 44 degree Baltimore.

Had a chance to go to the airport with the family for Operation Welcome Home, to greet 247 troops coming home for the holidays Christmas.

It was a wonderful experience.
My wife does this about once a week while I am gone, and the group doing it just keeps getting bigger every week.

229 LizardBennet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:36:14am

re: #227 PietrCandlelighting starts the evening before the first day

230 NotTheMomma  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:37:24am

I absolutely hate that song. Now I won't be able to get it out o fmy head. Thanks Charles.
:)

231 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:38:12am

re: #229 LizardBennet

Oops-Thanks.

232 LizardBennet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:38:51am

re: #231 Pietrwecome very much

233 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:40:14am

re: #225 Pietr

I'm well versed in Joseph- I've seen three productions of it, including the revival with Donny Osmand. I saw Phantom in LA from the fourth row- that was quite an experience, and I got to see Jesus Christ Superstar from the fifth row years ago. Webber is quite good, and Tim Rice is an amazing lyricist. I also became well acquainted with another show Rice wrote for- Chess- probably best know for this tune.

234 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:40:55am

re: #223 nonic

{aussie} :-)

Goodness, nonic, I've just been bitten by a mouse that I was rescuing from a mass attack by my three kitties! Ouch...

235 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:41:52am

re: #233 Sharmuta

I'm well versed in Joseph- I've seen three productions of it, including the revival with Donny Osmand. I saw Phantom in LA from the fourth row- that was quite an experience, and I got to see Jesus Christ Superstar from the fifth row years ago. Webber is quite good, and Tim Rice is an amazing lyricist. I also became well acquainted with another show Rice wrote for- Chess- probably best know for this tune.

I love Chess and all the songs, but it's not as well-known.

236 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:41:57am

re: #233 Sharmuta

I'm well versed in Joseph- I've seen three productions of it, including the revival with Donny Osmand. I saw Phantom in LA from the fourth row- that was quite an experience, and I got to see Jesus Christ Superstar from the fifth row years ago. Webber is quite good, and Tim Rice is an amazing lyricist. I also became well acquainted with another show Rice wrote for- Chess- probably best know for this tune.

Did you get Obamas autograph?

/

237 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:42:32am

re: #234 aussiemagpie

Goodness, nonic, I've just been bitten by a mouse that I was rescuing from a mass attack by my three kitties! Ouch...

WASH THAT WELL AND USE PEROXIDE!

238 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:42:46am

re: #233 Sharmuta

Loved that song when it came out. Couldn't find a copy of it in the stores so I had to make do by taping it off the radio.

239 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:43:13am

re: #237 goddessoftheclassroom

WASH THAT WELL AND USE PEROXIDE!

I've never used peroxide on a mouse before!

240 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:43:24am

re: #237 goddessoftheclassroom

WASH THAT WELL AND USE PEROXIDE!

As well as isopropyl alcohol.

241 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:44:36am

re: #238 BlueCanuck

Ah! But it's a SOUNDTRACK!

Goddess- I ADORE Chess. Great show.

242 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:45:00am

re: #237 goddessoftheclassroom

LOTS of Peroxide-My vet told me it even burns out rabies germs-and it's important to use it quickly.

243 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:45:02am

re: #237 goddessoftheclassroom

WASH THAT WELL AND USE PEROXIDE!

The little thing bit long and hard! Yes I've washed it with disinfectant, now I'll go and see which diseases I might catch :-) Thanks!

244 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:48:23am

re: #238 BlueCanuck

Loved that song when it came out. Couldn't find a copy of it in the stores so I had to make do by taping it off the radio.

BTW- I remember those days. Waiting all day for the DJ to play one damn song and then they talk over the opening... Good times, good times.

Also- I felt compelled to change the quote in my profile.

245 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:49:41am

re: #224 LizardBennet Nah is more like after WW2 we had elected a Juan Benito Hisler.

246 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:50:05am

re: #239 sattv4u2

I've never used peroxide on a mouse before!

LOL! I committed the faulty antecedent faux pas!

Ahem.

"Wash THAT WOUND well and use peroxide."

247 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:53:45am

re: #244 Sharmuta

LOL, love that quote. :)

/and the queens we use would not excite you. ;)
//can't listen to the song here at work now, but it's burned into my synapses from a long time ago.

248 wahabicorridor  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:56:07am

re: #243 aussiemagpie

The little thing bit long and hard! Yes I've washed it with disinfectant, now I'll go and see which diseases I might catch :-) Thanks!


Oh dear. My pet mouse, Shrankly bit my friend (she picked him up incorrectly) - she had to get a tetnus shot

good morning lizards...quite warm here in the holy city of Alexandria - going to be in the 60s today.

249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:56:31am

C'mon without...

Morning. How are we this morning?

250 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:57:58am

{FBV}

I've got to run. Y'all have a GREAT day!

251 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:58:34am

re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Morning FBV, trying to find a loophole in the commandment of "Thou shall not kill".

/Now if only the 11th commandment was real. . . .

252 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:59:55am

re: #251 BlueCanuck

Morning FBV, trying to find a loophole in the commandment of "Thou shall not kill".

/Now if only the 11th commandment was real. . . .

Well ,, I don't have verse(s) at hand, but the Old Testament was chock full of SMITING !

253 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:01:07am

re: #251 BlueCanuck

Morning FBV, trying to find a loophole in the commandment of "Thou shall not kill".

/Now if only the 11th commandment was real. . . .

In fact, it means "thou shalt not murder."

254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:03:21am

re: #253 goddessoftheclassroom

In fact, it means "thou shalt not murder."

And I agree.

255 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:03:28am

re: #252 sattv4u2

I seem to remember "smiting with the Jaw Bone of an Ass"-but it's really not good to dig up one of the moonbats just for a jawbone, and illegal to boot.

...pops white smoke...

256 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:04:35am

re: #253 goddessoftheclassroom

Yes, that was the interpetation that I was following.

/still looking for that loophole

257 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:05:42am

Clint Eastwood says Americans are to soft. Agree or disagree? I agree the proof is in our Pres Elect.

258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:07am

re: #256 BlueCanuck

Who we wanting to kill? Perhaps I can grant absolution?

Warning; It is imperative that it is someone that I also would want dead.

259 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:12am

re: #255 Pietr

I seem to remember "smiting with the Jaw Bone of an Ass"-but it's really not good to dig up one of the moonbats just for a jawbone, and illegal to boot.

...pops white smoke...

Back in my youth, I used to go Clubbing For A Piece Of Ass, is that the same !?!?!?!?!

BAD SATT ,,, BAD BAD BAD

260 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:19am

re: #256 BlueCanuck
Smiting is allowed murder isn't so just call it Smiting morons.

261 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:22am

re: #256 BlueCanuck

Justifiable Homicide or Self Preservation (as in trying to preserve your sanity)?

262 Sharmuta  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:34am

Some little known Chess facts- The London version differed from the Broadway version, and the production's lyrics to Bangkok are different from Murray Head's. Here's a crappy high school production of the original lyrics.

Also- I became quite well versed in Tim Rice's work before Disney released Aladin, and was completely able to pick out his lyrics from those of Alan Meneken(?). Not sure if I have the name right, I'm going off memory, but he was the lyricist Disney was using for a number of their films at the time, and he passed away while working on Aladin, so Tim Rice was brought in to complete the movie.

263 steve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:06:47am

Walter the Puppet:
"Screw you, its Merry Christmas>"

264 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:07:06am

re: #258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Think its the moron who can't follow the step by step instructions Blue provided.

265 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:07:20am

re: #257 rancher

Clint Eastwood says Americans are to soft. Agree or disagree? I agree the proof is in our Pres Elect.

Easier baraometer. Go to the mall and see how many chubby kids are waddling around

266 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:08:05am

re: #265 sattv4u2

Easier baraometer. Go to the mall and see how many chubby kids are waddling around

BAROMETER

PIMF

267 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:08:27am

re: #265 sattv4u2
Lol those are kids I thought it was a veal raising farm.

268 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:08:53am

re: #261 Pietr

Justifiable Homicide or Self Preservation (as in trying to preserve your sanity)?

Ooooh, I like that one.

/now where did I put that real friend's phone number. . . .

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:10:13am

re: #264 rancher

Think its the moron who can't follow the step by step instructions Blue provided.

Ok, no absolution. Sorry. Can't find it. I don't want them dead.

"No smite for you!"

270 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:10:42am

Oregon Bank bomber who killed 2 police officers has been arrested.

271 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:10:53am

Good morning from a frigid mid-illinois where it is up to 10 degrees of global warming out there.

In market news, the Nikkei was up 5.2%, the Hang Seng was up about 2% and the market futures are about flat.

272 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:11:25am

14 degrees here at least the wind has stopped.

273 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:11:48am

re: #257 rancher

Well when was the last time we as North Americans had to really, really, really make sacrafices? Stories of rationing during WWII to me are only stories. Most of my friends parents probably don't even have those stories, and probably hear about it from their grandparents and tales of the Great Depression from great or great great grandparents.

274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:12:33am

We were looking at pictures the other day. Both of our kids were fat. We didn't even notice how fat they were. They are both very fit adults (Keep Dorian away from my daughter!). You just don't see it in your own kids.

275 steve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:12:39am

I am going to sell 'Indulgences' next year. If anybody is interested I can make specific ones as needed.
Prices will vary depending on the Indulgence request.

276 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:12:39am

burrr getting cold here
thanks alot canuks.

277 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:12:53am

Someone had a market question for ya up thread 3wood about U.S companies which are traded on the foreign market. Something along the lines of is how they do during foreign trading indicative of how they will do when the Dow etc open.

278 nonic  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:13:37am

LizardBennet
Pietr

Thanks.

aussiemagpie...

Bitten by the mouse, huh? You're lucky you weren't bitten by the cats! Hey, it's a cat-eat-mouse world. You gotta let nature happen.

279 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:13:47am

re: #271 3 wood

Thanks for the market update. Currently hear on the north shore of Lake Ontario, it's 9° C. It's forecast to drop to -9° C tonight though.

/wish the weather would make up it's bloody mind on which season it is.

280 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:13:58am

re: #248 wahabicorridor

Oh dear. My pet mouse, Shrankly bit my friend (she picked him up incorrectly) - she had to get a tetnus shot

good morning lizards...quite warm here in the holy city of Alexandria - going to be in the 60s today.

Good morning, and yes I did pick it up incorrectly - right out from the mouth of one of my kitties :-)

Luckily my cat wasn't crunching down too hard on the poor little thing!

281 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:14:12am

re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We were looking at pictures the other day. Both of our kids were fat. We didn't even notice how fat they were. They are both very fit adults (Keep Dorian away from my daughter!). You just don't see it in your own kids.

I'll need a before and after photo of your daughter as proof.

On second thought, just send me several "afters"

On third thought, send me an album of "afters"

282 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:14:53am

re: #280 aussiemagpie That's gratitude for ya. Oddly enough despite having caught numerous wild mice I've never been bit.

283 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:15:25am

re: #281 sattv4u2

To save FBV and Mandy the effort *WHACK*.

/you're lucky I like you. . . .

284 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:15:29am

re: #281 sattv4u2
Just ask for her facebook or myspace info :P.

285 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:16:26am

re: #283 BlueCanuck

To save FBV and Mandy the effort *WHACK*.

/you're lucky I like you. . . .

heh ,,, wait till you get to know me ,,, Trust me ,, I KNOW me ,,,

286 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:17:30am

re: #279 BlueCanuck

the west side of lake mich was 50f last nite it is now at 9f and going down.
much thanks to alberata for the weather.

287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:18:37am

re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We were looking at pictures the other day. Both of our kids were fat. We didn't even notice how fat they were. They are both very fit adults (Keep Dorian and Sattv away from my daughter!). You just don't see it in your own kids.

Sigh.

288 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:19:34am

re: #287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You probably won't feel safe until she's married off. Until then keep the shotgun and club handy.

289 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:19:34am

re: #287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Comeon FBV just admit it. She now inhabits the back room of your house guarded 24/7 with a shot gun.

290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:19:51am

Waiting for Realwest to get here. Gotta get my "Cowboy Gloat" on.

291 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:19:53am

re: #287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(Keep Dorian and Sattv away from my daughter!)

Post the photo and see how many more fit between the () !

292 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:21:54am

re: #291 sattv4u2

I only chase after females that are close to my age group. That way I have at least a chance of having something in common with them. Once spent some time chatting up a waitress. Found out she was half my age, and her mother was my age. Had to bite my tongue before I got really hurt.

293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:22:20am

re: #288 BlueCanuck

re: #289 rancher

She is stunning (you should see the looks that I catch men giving her) and a total bad-ass. Clint Eastwood, total wimp.

She started a job a few months back, was getting hit on by the guys. Finally, pinned a guy up against a wall and said, "You will not be touching me, you got that?"

Love my girl.

294 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:24:17am

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When he left last night, he didn't seem like he expected to be around much today. He left a message for Pingjockey in #37 of the previous thread (Totten:...).

295 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:24:35am

re: #292 BlueCanuck

I only chase after females that are close to my age group. That way I have at least a chance of having something in common with them. Once spent some time chatting up a waitress. Found out she was half my age, and her mother was my age. Had to bite my tongue before I got really hurt.

hmmm,,, a mother/daughter combo ,,, interesting ,,, Verryyy interesting !

296 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:24:49am

/sorry...I was on the phone...

nonic! :-)

aussie! :-)

297 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:25:23am

re: #296 littleoldlady

/sorry...I was on the phone...

nonic! :-)

aussie! :-)

Wouldn't it be more comfy if you were on a chair ?

298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:25:24am

re: #294 Pietr

Thanks. Well, I'll gloat anyway. Last night's Cowboy win caught me totally by surprise (but I'll take it).

299 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:25:48am

Update on the Blago fiasco:

1. Blago spent the weekend looking for a new attorney. Apparently he owes his current law form a whole lot of fees so they are pretty much not willing to represent him until the amount owed is paid up. Good luck with that. Blago spent the weekend taking to high profile Chicago attorney Ed Genson. Genson is reportedly trying to decide if he is going to represent Blago, which means he's trying to figure out if he will ever see a dime of fees.

2. The State legislature is having an emergency session today to try to figure out what to do. It is becoming very clear that AG Lisa Madigan's ploy to have Blago removed from office by the State Supreme Court for being unfit is going to go nowhere. Therefore, it will be up to the Legislature to impeach him. The Republican are hoping for a very drawn out affair as they want to see the Democrats slowly roast on the spit of scandal.

3. That leaves the question of what to do for a Senator? The Democrats do not want to have an open election cause then a Republican might win (Machine politics never quits in Illinois).

4. Blago is not going to resign today. Ever the shake down artist, he is trying to figure out how to sell his own seat for a walk.

300 Bubblehead II  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:25:58am

Morning all. Just my usual early morning drive by as I get ready to go to work.

Iranian to be blinded with acid for doing same to woman

TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- An Iranian woman, blinded by a jilted stalker who threw acid in her face, has persuaded a court to sentence him to be blinded with acid himself under Islamic law demanding an eye for an eye.

A bit barbaric, but the sentence fits the crime.

L8R

/and no, I will not be posting from work today. :-)

301 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:26:24am

re: #295 sattv4u2

The comment I was holding back, "I should be chasing after your mother, not you."

/never piss off your favourite watering hole wait staff.

302 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:26:28am

Good Morning LGF.
UNHRC Jewish-American Anti-Semite Richard Falk Denied Entry to Israel
This UN scumbag compares Israeli actions to Nazis and the Holocaust and was therefore denied entry as being completely unobjective and unwelcome in Israel.
Stay tuned for the usual chorus of hypocritical yapping at Israel's heels coming in 3, 2, 1...

303 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:26:45am

re: #295 sattv4u2

reminds me of when i was in intensive care and they had mother/daughter stripper teams. wonder why no one came in to check my b.p.

304 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:28:32am

re: #297 sattv4u2

Wouldn't it be more comfy if you were on a chair ?

sattv4u2! :-)

That's how talloldman turned off the TV the other day. Sat on the remote by accident. Couldn't figure out how to reconfigure it.

/dang newfangled digital TV chazzerei... ;-)

305 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:28:47am

re: #300 Bubblehead II

I know. But, I totally support some of forms of barbarism.

306 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:29:13am

re: #300 Bubblehead II

Sounds like "Hammurabis'(sp?) Law"-where the punishment fits the crime...Hmmm.

307 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:29:17am

re: #277 rancher

Someone had a market question for ya up thread 3wood about U.S companies which are traded on the foreign market. Something along the lines of is how they do during foreign trading indicative of how they will do when the Dow etc open.

Well, it's a pretty good indicator. You have to use some judgment as to whether the overseas action is getting caught up to the NYSE or whether it reflects new news.

308 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:30:10am

re: #303 yochanan

reminds me of when i was in intensive care and they had mother/daughter stripper teams. wonder why no one came in to check my b.p.

I wanna check into THAT hospital ,,, STAT!

309 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:30:13am

In amongst all the doom and gloom, and the constant drone about vanishing species, is this!

1,000 species discovered over past decade in the Greater Mekong region...

SCIENTISTS have discovered more than 1000 species in Southeast Asia's Greater Mekong region in the past decade, including a spider as big as a dinner plate, the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) said.

A rat thought to have become extinct 11 million years ago and a cyanide-laced, shocking pink millipede were among creatures found in what the group called a "biological treasure trove".

The species were all found in the rainforests and wetlands along the Mekong River, which flows through Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam and the southern Chinese province of Yunnan.

"It doesn't get any better than this," Stuart Chapman, director of WWF's Greater Mekong Program, said.

"We thought discoveries of this scale were confined to the history books."

The WWF report, First Contact in the Greater Mekong, said that "between 1997 and 2007, at least 1068 have been officially described by science as being newly discovered species."

These included the world's largest huntsman spider, with a leg span of 30 centimetres, and the "startlingly" coloured "dragon millipede", which produces the deadly compound cyanide.

Next time you hear someone going on about how species are disappearing, mention this wonderful news...

310 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:32:45am

By the way, it's coming out now that the Federal investigators had to cut their investigation off short go public and bust Blago early cause the Chicago Tribune went public with the story so Fitzgerald had to go with what he had. They actually wanted to wait for the deal to go down with Blago selling the Senate seat so they could have that on tape. Fitzgerald's office thought they had a deal with the Tribune to sit on the story till they made their pinch, but the Trib went with the story anyway.

311 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:33:27am

re: #282 rancher

That's gratitude for ya. Oddly enough despite having caught numerous wild mice I've never been bit.

LOL! No thank you, no nothing...

312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:35:22am

re: #310 3 wood

The Trib had sat on it for a while, hadn't they? I don't know how long any paper can stay off something that juicy.

Oh. Am I defending the press?

313 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:35:24am

re: #310 3 wood

By the way, it's coming out now that the Federal investigators had to cut their investigation off short go public and bust Blago early cause the Chicago Tribune went public with the story so Fitzgerald had to go with what he had. They actually wanted to wait for the deal to go down with Blago selling the Senate seat so they could have that on tape. Fitzgerald's office thought they had a deal with the Tribune to sit on the story till they made their pinch, but the Trib went with the story anyway.

Ahhh ,,, "Freedom Of The Press" Screwing Up American Jurisprudence For Decades !

314 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:35:43am

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Waiting for Realwest to get here. Gotta get my "Cowboy Gloat" on.

Boy did the Giants poor play take me by surprise.

But that's why they play the games.

315 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:35:46am

Well folks, my relief is here. Have a good day and stay scaly lizards.

316 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:36:05am

re: #310 3 wood
Of course the Trib went early with the story they had to block Blago having any real charges filed against him.

317 monkeytime  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:37:13am

re: #313 sattv4u2

Ahhh ,,, "Freedom Of The Press" Screwing Up American Jurisprudence For Decades !

Or maybe the Tribune didn't want to see any of its friends get in any deeper.

318 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:37:32am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Story I'm hearing is Fitzgerald's office had a clear agreement for the Trib to sit on the story til the buy went down in exchange for exclusive rights to cover the bust.

319 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:38:38am

re: #313 sattv4u2

Ahhh ,,, "Freedom Of The Press" Screwing Up American Jurisprudence For Decades

Especially when you consider that Blago was shaking down the Tribune too.

Nobody ever said that the MSM was smart.

320 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:38:39am

re: #318 3 wood

Story I'm hearing is Fitzgerald's office had a clear agreement for the Trib to sit on the story til the buy went down in exchange for exclusive rights to cover the bust.

Oh ,, Goody ,,, a BOOB thread !

321 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:38:54am

re: #318 3 wood I wonder if they realized money that went to Blagojevich might somehow be traced back to there offices.

322 littleoldlady  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:39:00am

Bye, BlueCanuck! :-)

I'm out, too...

Good day, ALL!™

323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:39:10am

re: #317 monkeytime

He was squeezing the Trib too. I seriously doubt that the Trib considers Blago a friend they would want to protect.

Don't know the inside story, I'll (off course) defer to Wood (Mornin' Wood!).

324 gregg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:40:06am

For any of you who become confused and are not sure if you should say "Christmas Tree" or "Holiday Tree", I think this will help you.

325 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:40:16am

re: #304 littleoldlady

call in a grand child

326 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:40:23am

re: #296 littleoldlady

/sorry...I was on the phone...

nonic! :-)

aussie! :-)

Hello again, and I'm cracking up at Satts comment :-D

327 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:40:41am

The market futures are looking like this:

DOW up 13 points

S&P 500 unchanged form the Friday close

NASDAQ up 4.25 points.

328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:41:36am

Of course by the time the Trib popped the story, Blago was aware of the surveillance and was trying to undo some of his damage.

329 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:42:08am

re: #302 Spare O'Lake So is he a self hating Jewish American or just an anti-Zionist?

330 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:42:10am

if the trib had waited JJJ would have ended up in club fed maybe even his pops JJSr

331 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:42:48am

re: #329 rancher

both he is a college prof.

332 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:43:38am

re: #328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Of course by the time the Trib popped the story, Blago was aware of the surveillance and was trying to undo some of his damage.


How did the Trib get the story to begin with? Was it something they investigated themselves or was there a leak in the federal investigation (yeah, I know, that NEVER happens... Right... :-)

333 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:44:52am

re: #329 rancher

So is he a self hating Jewish American or just an anti-Zionist?

remember if was the jewish section of the soviet communist party that murdered the rabbi's, teachers and other leaders of the russian jewish comm. after the red revolution under v.i. lenin these same jewish commies were then murdered by stalin when he no longer needed them.

334 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:45:44am

re: #332 CIA Reject I'm willing to bet someone at the Trib was questioned since Blago was asking them for handouts too. When htat happened I'm thinking they were promised exclusivity and no mention in the actual criminal complait in return for compliance.

335 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:46:33am

The Fed's are also looking at Patti Blagojevich's strange real estate deals:

Uncomfortable spotlight shone on Patti Blagojevich

Even before her voice was heard on covert recordings made by federal investigators, First Lady Patricia Blagojevich was neck-deep in the federal probe of her husband and his administration.

Once a residential real estate broker on the North Side, Patricia Blagojevich left that career this year amid scrutiny from the Tribune and federal agents who have for a year been examining whether clients hired her to win favor from her husband's administration.

But her decision to change careers didn't seem to slow the investigation, which sped up in recent weeks after federal agents tapped the Blagojevich's phones and caught the first lady joining her husband on calls in which he talked about how his authority to pick President-elect Barack Obama's replacement in the U.S. Senate could be leveraged to help find her a seat on paid corporate boards.

Before that, though, federal agents—following years of news coverage—were probing hundreds of thousands of dollars in commissions Patricia Blagojevich earned in previous years as a real estate broker for political supporters, fundraisers and state contractors.

This is called leverage. Mrs. Blgo is going to have a decision to make with the Fed's, testify or go to the joint.

It get's better:

A year ago, one real estate agent told the Tribune that FBI agents contacted her with questions about her involvement with Patricia Blagojevich in the 2004 sale of a $3.2 million Gold Coast home. The seller was an investment banker and contributor to the governor's campaign fund who hired the first lady as his second agent on the deal.

That was only the most recent example. Patricia Blagojevich had an eight-year working relationship with Antoin "Tony" Rezko, a onetime powerful developer and Blagojevich fundraiser who was found guilty this summer on influence-peddling charges.

A Tribune analysis this year found that Blagojevich's real estate company, River Realty, made more than $700,000 in commissions after her husband began raising money in 2000 for his first run for governor. Of those commissions, more than three-quarters came from clients with connections, the newspaper found.

This would be the same Tony Rezco who did a sweetheart land deal with The Messiah.

336 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:46:46am

re: #333 yochanan
Yeah I just wanted to know if he was the scum floating on the surface or the really nasty crap that sinks to the bottom of the Sewage.

337 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:47:11am

re: #334 rancher

I'm willing to bet someone at the Trib was questioned since Blago was asking them for handouts too. When htat happened I'm thinking they were promised exclusivity and no mention in the actual criminal complait in return for compliance.


That makes sense...

338 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:47:51am

re: #333 yochanan

Likewise in many cases of the ghettos in Poland...and the guilty 'informants' were the last to be sent to the Death Camps-but they did get sent.

339 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:48:41am

re: #309 aussiemagpie

In amongst all the doom and gloom, and the constant drone about vanishing species, is this!
1,000 species discovered over past decade in the Greater Mekong region...

Next time you hear someone going on about how species are disappearing, mention this wonderful news...

Now there's a species I could live without - spiders the size of plates!

340 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:49:17am

re: #337 CIA Reject Just my belief not involved with any intimate details on the case except that the Trib was ask about contibuting.

341 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:49:32am

re: #300 Bubblehead II

“Hard cases, it is said, make bad law”
-John Campbell Argyll
I must admit that, from a cathartic standpoint, my initial reaction was one of support...My second reaction, however, was "How could such an incredibly primitive culture have survived into this century?"
And these people are building an atom bomb.

342 Joan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:50:12am

re: #16 Ps2

Count on journalists to have no view beyond their own glory and arrogance. They always know best, and never are they accountable for the consequences of their disgusting self-interest. Oh, of course, they have their own ethical standards, far above the common run of loyalties. *spit*

343 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:52:28am

re: #329 rancher

So is he a self hating Jewish American or just an anti-Zionist?

This prick loves himself very much.
And anyone who says the Jewish state of Israel is committing a Holocaust is an anti-Semite.

344 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:52:54am

Rahm Emanuel is on tape talking to Blago's people about the Senate seat as early as a week before the election.

Apparently the Obama camp submitted a list of acceptable candidates to Blago, with no strings attached.

Rahm Emanuel talked with governor's office about who should fill Obama's Senate seat

Emanuel delivered a list of candidates who would be "acceptable" to Obama, the source said. On the list were Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett, Illinois Veterans Affairs director Tammy Duckworth, state Comptroller Dan Hynes and U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Chicago, the source said. All are Democrats.

Sometime after the election, Emanuel called Harris back to add the name of Democratic Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan to the approved list, the source said.

Notice who's name is not on this list?

Jesse Jackson Jr...

That means The Messiah was turning his back on the Jackson's.

That means the Jackson family is now on the outside looking in.

Ouch babe.

345 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:54:40am

re: #332 CIA Reject

How did the Trib get the story to begin with? Was it something they investigated themselves or was there a leak in the federal investigation (yeah, I know, that NEVER happens... Right... :-)

Blago was shaking down the Tribune too, and were questioned about it by the Fed's, so they were aware of it.

346 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:55:01am

re: #344 3 wood

That means The Messiah was turning his back on the Jackson's.

That means the Jackson family is now on the outside looking in

That tends to happen when Daddy Jackson threatens to cut your nuts off !

347 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:55:13am

Mommy can I keep it.

348 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:56:57am

re: #339 Spare O'Lake

Now there's a species I could live without - spiders the size of plates!

Just what I was thinking too!

And a cyanide laced hot pink millipede ...

349 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:57:53am

re: #339 Spare O'Lake
Sad thing is The Mekong Huntsman isn't even the largest in the world.

350 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:58:06am

re: #346 sattv4u2

That tends to happen when Daddy Jackson threatens to cut your nuts off !

You got that right. Daddy's big mouth finally caught up to the family.

Jesse Jackson Jr. is now nothing more than another loud mouthed small time politician with no future for anything bigger. That sound you just heard was the Chicago Machine turning on him too.

351 Joan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:58:36am

re: #344 3 wood

Very instructive: Obama doesn't publicly respond to JJ's insult about "cutting off his balls." No, he doesn't avenge himself with words, but with action. Often he repays favorable people with sweet words in public praise that cost him nothing, that actually make Obama look good. Case in point, of course, post-election "handling" of McCain.

352 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:58:45am

re: #336 rancher

Yeah I just wanted to know if he was the scum floating on the surface or the really nasty crap that sinks to the bottom of the Sewage.

he looks up at the sewage.

353 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:00:15am

re: #345 3 wood

Blago was shaking down the Tribune too, and were questioned about it by the Fed's, so they were aware of it.


Makes sense - too bad the Trib couldn't keep it under wraps until the feds had enough to actually arrest Blago. That would've been real fun...

354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:01:49am

re: #353 CIA Reject

Wait, uh...the Feds arrested Blago. He's got real problems.

355 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:01:57am

Here is a species of rabbit found in Vietnam/laos in the mekong valley.

356 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:02:28am

I don't think that anything in Australia can compare to the goings on of the Chicago Democrat Machine.

357 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:02:29am

Only the 2nd species of striped rabbit seen.

358 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:02:32am

re: #353 CIA Reject

Makes sense - too bad the Trib couldn't keep it under wraps until the feds had enough to actually arrest Blago. That would've been real fun...


Clarification: Arrest Blago for ACTUALLY SELLING BO's seat.

/Need more coffee...

359 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:03:02am

re: #353 CIA Reject

Makes sense - too bad the Trib couldn't keep it under wraps until the feds had enough to actually arrest Blago. That would've been real fun...

Au Contraire~! This is more fun. Watching Blago and the fate of that senate seat twist in the wind! Watching the Dems scatter in all directions trying to avoid the fallout! Waiting to see who #'s 1-4 are, and who offered what!

360 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:03:47am

re: #354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wait, uh...the Feds arrested Blago. He's got real problems.


See my #358 - He's not the only one with problems, but at leas his are way worse than mine... :-)

361 Joan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:03:57am

re: #344 3 wood

Apparently the Obama camp submitted a list of acceptable candidates to Blago, with no strings attached.
Rahm Emanuel talked with governor's office about who should fill Obama's Senate seat

Notice who's name is not on this list?

Jesse Jackson Jr...

An omission that might present a temptation to offer cashee monee to get that Senate seat. Strange. I found JJJ very persuasive on the television and wanted to believe him. Say it isn't so, oh say it isn't so!

362 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:04:32am

Don't run you chicken.

363 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:05:21am

re: #359 sattv4u2 I thought Valerie Jarret was confirmed as Number 1.

364 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:06:34am

Professor Richard Falk, a United Nations envoy who once sparked controversy by comparing Israelis to Nazis, has been barred entry to Israel and was put on a plane bound out of the country early on Monday.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Hope you had a nice trip asshole!

365 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:07:09am

re: #355 rancher

Here is a species of rabbit found in Vietnam/laos in the mekong valley.

Looks like a cross with a tabby cat :-)

It's rather gorgeous!

366 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:07:27am

re: #352 yochanan

he looks up at the sewage.

Yep, he is below low.
If Dick F--k was just an anti-Zionist he would not have gone for the Jewish jugular vein by comparing the actions of Jews to the atrocities of the Nazis. He is a full-on anti-Semite.
*spit*

367 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:09:20am

re: #365 aussiemagpie Yeah A kinda kiitah bunney.

368 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:10:09am

A couple of questions for those more familiar with Illinois politics that I am:

1) Is Rahm Emanuel currently serving as an Illinois congressman?
2) If he is, and he resigns his seat to become BO's WH chief of staff does Blago get to appoint a replacement for him as well?

/Just wondering what else could possibly be on the tape that Emanuel might not have wanted the FBI to hear...

369 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:10:23am

maby it will crash. re: #364 Nevergiveup

Professor Richard Falk, a United Nations envoy who once sparked controversy by comparing Israelis to Nazis, has been barred entry to Israel and was put on a plane bound out of the country early on Monday.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Hope you had a nice trip asshole!

370 fredo malmstein  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:10:26am

Johnny to the rescue!

[Link: www.politico.com...]

371 cagney  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:10:59am

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
===
Quote:
A man wanted by Interpol for terrorist offences has been advising Scotland Yard, it has been reported.

Mohamed Ali Harrath had helped the Metropolitan Police - the UK's biggest force - on countering Muslim extremism, according to the Times.

Tunisian-born Mr Harrath, 45, is listed as wanted on the Interpol website.

Wanted for terror offences: Mohamed Ali Harrath is reportedly advising the Metropolitan Police on countering Muslim extremism

Interpol is the world's largest international police organisation.

The site lists his categories of offences as counterfeiting, forgery, crimes involving the use of weapons, explosives and terrorism.

The Interpol website reveals that an arrest warrant for Mr Harrath was issued by Tunisia.

The Times reported that Mr Harrath had been appointed by Scotland Yard as an adviser to its Muslim Contact Unit on preventing terrorism.

Mr Harrath is reportedly the chief executive of the broadcaster the Islam Channel, based in London.
===

Unf^cking believable, it's like leaving the fox in charge of the hen house.

372 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:11:38am

re: #369 apachegunner
Bad apache there are pilots on that plane and maybe other passengers.

373 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:12:10am

An article published this weekend in a leaflet distributed by anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox stream Neturei Karta asserted that the terror attack on the Chabad House in Mumbai was a punishment from God for the organization's collaboration with Zionist Israelis.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

And they are allowed to live in Israel and even receive State benefits? Go Figure!

374 wahabicorridor  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:13:08am

The WSJ is slamming the SEC over the Madoff ponzi scheme

SEC Had Chances for Years to Expose Madoff's Alleged Ponzi Scheme

An enforcement case 16 years ago gave the Securities and Exchange Commission its first shot at figuring out how Bernard Madoff could rack up favorable returns with such uncanny consistency. After that, it received repeated warnings from outside whistle-blowers and at least twice looked into Mr. Madoff's brokerage itself.

Each time, it blew its chance. It was only last week, when Mr. Madoff allegedly confessed to his sons that he was running what amounted to a "giant Ponzi scheme," that the apparent $50 billion fraud came to light.

"This is a debacle for the SEC," said Joel Seligman, an SEC historian and president of the University of Rochester in New York. "The commission has a lot to answer for."

375 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:13:13am

yep, sorry about that partner. re: #372 rancher

Bad apache there are pilots on that plane and maybe other passengers.

376 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:14:06am

re: #373 Nevergiveup We in America have no room to talk about the state funding it's enemies. All you have to do is look at any college that recieves funding from the same Govt that it villianizes.

377 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:14:40am

re: #357 rancher

Does it have fangs?

378 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:14:51am

re: #375 apachegunner
Well unless the stench has driven off all other passengers then the pilots can just bail out a mile offshore.

379 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:14:55am

re: #367 rancher

But it seems to blend well with the background, so I'd say it has a good protective coloration, or natural comouflage.

380 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:15:50am

re: #374 wahabicorridor

The WSJ is slamming the SEC over the Madoff ponzi scheme

SEC Had Chances for Years to Expose Madoff's Alleged Ponzi Scheme


The swine! Doesn't he know that only the Government of the United States can run a Ponzi scheme!

381 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:16:10am

re: #379 Pietr
I'm just wondering how long til they are bred and sold in the US as tiger bunnies.

382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:17:26am

re: #379 Pietr

You can't see it either.

383 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:17:37am

re: #381 rancher

You can bet some of those who breed and show rabbits are looking into possibilities for acquiring a few breeding pairs.

384 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:19:12am

re: #382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fortunately-I don't allow beverages around the PC...or I'd have a major cleanup now...Cheers.

385 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:20:04am

Top photo is the previous known species of striped rabbit the Sumatran Striped rabbit bottom is the Laotian(mekong valley) striped rabbit. I think the Laotian one looks better.

386 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:20:53am

re: #385 rancher

Allthough it may just be the lighting.

387 wahabicorridor  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:21:35am

re: #380 CIA Reject

The swine! Doesn't he know that only the Government of the United States can run a Ponzi scheme!

heh. See if you can get your hands on Cindy Adams' column in today's NY Post. She always scoops everybody. Anyhoo, she says that the Madoff boys really were clueless and it was their father that told them the truth because he figured out he was about to be exposed and he wanted to get all the ducks in a row and protect his family as much as he could.

388 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:23:10am

This is probably old news , but there are street demonstrations in Baghdad supporting the shoe thrower. He apparently is now a hero in Arabia.
Is there anything else that we can do for these people?

389 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:23:18am

re: #355 rancher

re: #385 rancher


I think I like the pattern on your #355 better-just IMHO.

390 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:24:48am

OTS Anyone see McCain last night extolling repubilican togetherness with the democrats in their time of need with the Blagovich mess. He also wasn't able to say anything positive about Palin while mentioning other republicans who would be good to run in 2012. This guy is a nitwit.

391 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:25:15am

re: #388 opnion

This is probably old news , but there are street demonstrations in Baghdad supporting the shoe thrower. He apparently is now a hero in Arabia.
Is there anything else that we can do for these people?

yes. We can stay the course! There are street demonstrations daily in places like San Francisco, and we don't abandon that city (although ,, the thought has occurred to me! )

392 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:25:39am

re: #388 opnion

This is probably old news , but there are street demonstrations in Baghdad supporting the shoe thrower. He apparently is now a hero in Arabia.
Is there anything else that we can do for these people?


those were pretty nice moves by the bushman in ducking the shoes huh?

393 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:25:53am

re: #387 rancher Btw genetic testing on samples show that tho closely related they Are seperate species with about 8 million years of divulgance. Both live in wooded mountainous regions of there respective territories.

394 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:26:48am

re: #391 sattv4u2

yes. We can stay the course! There are street demonstrations daily in places like San Francisco, and we don't abandon that city (although ,, the thought has occurred to me! )

Yeah, but it is galling. How much cash have we spent & how many kids have died?

395 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:27:40am

re: #392 apachegunner
George Bush went all Matrixy dodging shoes.

396 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:28:14am

re: #390 apachegunner

OTS Anyone see McCain last night extolling repubilican togetherness with the democrats in their time of need with the Blagovich mess. He also wasn't able to say anything positive about Palin while mentioning other republicans who would be good to run in 2012. This guy is a nitwit.

That's being charitable?

397 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:29:34am

re: #394 opnion

Yeah, but it is galling. How much cash have we spent & how many kids have died?

You asking about Baghdad, or San Francisco?

398 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:29:57am

re: #390 apachegunner

Remember Sean Connery as "indiana Jones' dad-Indy got them off the Zepplin and into a plane slung underneath-and they promptly got Jumped by German fighters. Connery then proceeded to blow away the tail assembly of their plane, while trying to shoot down 1 of the fighters. McCains' behavior is pretty much like that...Aargh.

399 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:30:15am

re: #397 sattv4u2

You asking about Baghdad, or San Francisco?

And the difference is?

400 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:30:21am

re: #390 apachegunner

OTS Anyone see McCain last night extolling repubilican togetherness with the democrats in their time of need with the Blagovich mess. He also wasn't able to say anything positive about Palin while mentioning other republicans who would be good to run in 2012. This guy is a nitwit.


Palin has more moxie than McCain & put up a better fight.
She wasn't concerned with being loved by Democrats.

401 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:31:31am

re: #399 Nevergiveup

And the difference is?


Ooh, ooh, easy one. The difference between Baghdad and San Francisco is that there are some people in Baghdad who like the US.

402 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:32:20am

re: #401 EmmmieG

Ooh, ooh, easy one. The difference between Baghdad and San Francisco is that there are some people in Baghdad who like the US.

Good one!

403 Spiritualized  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:32:44am

re: #364 Nevergiveup

Professor Richard Falk, a United Nations envoy who once sparked controversy by comparing Israelis to Nazis, has been barred entry to Israel and was put on a plane bound out of the country early on Monday.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Hope you had a nice trip asshole!

Did Haaretz hold a candlelit vigil in protest at his deportation?

404 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:33:38am

re: #399 Nevergiveup

And the difference is?

the street performers in Baghdad aren't as gay!

405 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:35:16am

Haha Bush's response on the shoe incident. Someone just wanted attention. "It's like when yo udrive down the street and someone waves at ya without all 5 fingers."

406 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:35:21am

re: #404 sattv4u2

the street performers in Baghdad aren't as gay!


Right & Iraq does not have a movie about gay activist Mohammad Milkl.

407 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:39:31am

re: #394 opnion

Yeah, but it is galling. How much cash have we spent & how many kids have died?


Rant on:
I for one would like to know just what the *sshole is so pissed off about.

Is he mad that oil revenue is now going to the people to pay for schools and hospitals instead of to a dictator to pay for palaces and armies of suicide bombers?

Is he mad because his wife and daughter won't be raped in retaliation for some percieved offense he may have commited (like throwing shoes at a press conference)?

Maybe he's an out of work industrial shredder repair man who wants to get back to work cleaning human bone and gristle out of a plastic shredder? Or a grave digger who liked the convenience of digging mass graves?

Or maybe, just maybe, he's some arrogant, impotent, needle-d*cked little schmuck who hasn't got the b*lls to do for himself what the United States military did for him and now he's too embarrassed to admit it., and too unable to just be a man, say "thank you" and take responsibility for maintaining the freedom that Amreican blood and treasure bought for him.

/Rant off

408 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:39:36am

Good morning Lizards...

409 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:40:37am

re: #397 sattv4u2

You asking about Baghdad, or San Francisco?

The fact that the U.S occupies San FRancisco just proves that we are Imperialists. Tree Sitters of Berkley Unite!

410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:41:30am

re: #408 doriangrey

Stay away from my daughter!

411 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:43:20am

re: #408 doriangrey

Morning Dorian FBV lost his daughter and needs help locating her.

412 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:44:39am

Has anyone yet mentioned they've arrested someone in the Woodburn bombing? No more news than that, although they have a fairly blurry photo of a suspect who may or may not be the guy they arrested.

The arrest was the result of an intensive round-the-clock investigation by an interagency task force comprised of federal, state, county, and city public safety agencies," Marion County Sheriff Russ Isham said.

Yeah, I'll bet it was intensive. They killed cops, and Woodburn is not so big that the police wouldn't have all known each other.

[Link: www.oregonlive.com...]

413 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:44:55am

re: #410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Stay away from my daughter!

/kicks FBV's daughter out of bed... Daughter? what daughter?

414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:45:26am

re: #413 doriangrey

I shouldn't laugh. heh

415 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:45:35am

Good Morning Lizards.

416 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:46:01am

Heyas dusty. re: #415 Dustyvet

417 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:46:13am

re: #411 rancher

Morning Dorian FBV lost his daughter and needs help locating her.

Blinks incredulously... And what makes you think I would know anything about that?

418 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:46:34am

re: #416 rancher

Heyas dusty.

Allo Rancher...:)

419 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:46:44am

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.

420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:47:12am

re: #417 doriangrey

Did the Chargers win yesterday?

421 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:47:24am

re: #410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Stay away from my daughter!

Follow your daughter home.

422 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:48:08am

re: #420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did the Chargers win yesterday?

Beats the hell out of me... I gave up any hope for this year and quit watching two or three weeks ago...

423 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:48:18am

re: #419 rancher
By clean burning coal I think he means coal that releases no CO2. But the oxidation of coal a carbon based fossil fuel can't help but produce CO2.

424 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:48:19am

re: #419 rancher

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.

Let's send him to the Moon and let him work on that...

425 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:48:29am

re: #419 rancher

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.

Is he going to tell us where Osama is, or is he waiting until he is sworn in?

426 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:49:08am

re: #394 opnion

Yeah, but it is galling. How much cash have we spent & how many kids have died?

We don't have KIDSin our armed forces we have MEN & WOMEN

427 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:49:12am

re: #419 rancher

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.


My response: That was 40 years ago, back when Americans were smart. Today's America elected you. I'm surprised they can find their way to the bathroom without help...

428 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:49:13am

re: #420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did the Chargers win yesterday?

Yes

429 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:49:36am

re: #424 Dustyvet

Let's send him to the Moon and let him work on that...

It would be NASA's finest mission... ;)

430 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:49:57am

re: #422 doriangrey

Cowboys beat the mighty Giants.

431 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:22am

re: #429 doriangrey

It would be NASA's finest mission... ;)

Sure would!

432 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:39am

re: #426 kcladderman

We don't have KIDSin our armed forces we have MEN & WOMEN

And some might bad ass men and women at that.

433 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:39am

mornin Dorian, ready for a lift? re: #408 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards...

434 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:40am

re: #426 kcladderman

We don't have KIDSin our armed forces we have MEN & WOMEN

They're young, when I look back now, when I was in, we were kids.
It is not intended as a slight.

435 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:43am

As the Economy Falters, Obama Ratings Rise one word for that: barf

So many people have so much poured into this man, there is no way he can deliver. I think the speed of his fall will only be matched by the intensity. I am hoping he can deliver on any of these promises he has made, but he is seen by too many people as the bringer of light and happiness. And, when the darkness remains, what will they think then?

436 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:45am

re: #419 rancher

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.

Some great rope line video from Joe Biden's recent Ohio swing, where he was asked by an anti-pollution campaigner about clean coal -- a controversial approach in Democratic circles for which Obama has voiced support, particularly during the Kentucky primary.

Biden's apparent answer: He supports clean coal for China, but not for the United States.

"No coal plants here in America," he said. "Build them, if they're going to build them, over there. Make them clean."

"We’re not supporting clean coal," he said of himself and Obama. They do, on paper, support clean coal.

The answer seems to play into John McCain's case that Obama has been saying "no" to new sources of energy.

In the primary, Biden opposed Obama's push for clean coal, which is seen as a way of maintaining or expanding America's coal-burning power plants -- many of which are in rust belt swing states.

"I don't think there's much of a role for clean coal in energy independence, but I do think there's a significant role for clean coal in the bigger picture of climate change," he told Grist last year. "Clean-coal technology is not the route to go in the United States, because we have other, cleaner alternatives," he said, but added that America should push for a "fundamental change in technology" to clean up China's plants.


SNIP

437 iceman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:50:51am

Charles was kind enough to post the video of a talk by Judge John Jones on the Kitzmiller case in Dover, Pennsylvania regarding the teaching of evolution

wikipedia entry here

youtube video here

since the talk was over one hour I converted it to mp3 so I could listen on my ipod and you can play or download it here

438 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:51:11am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

439 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:51:38am

re: #426 kcladderman

We don't have KIDSin our armed forces we have MEN & WOMEN

Yeah, maybe, but when I'm examining all them young Marines, many younger than my oldest daughter, I still think of them as kids sometimes. And I don't mean that in bad way.

440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:51:41am

re: #430 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cowboys beat the mighty Giants.

They "might" be Giants!

441 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:51:43am

re: #430 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cowboys beat the mighty Giants.

This says it all, there

442 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:51:49am

re: #412 EmmmieG
and I wonder, why oh why did they pick up that bomb and move it into the bank. i've never heard such a thing being done, geeesh.

443 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:52:07am

re: #430 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cowboys beat the mighty Giants.

ROTFLMAO... Saw that last night at the pub... Boy there was some wailing and gnashing of teeth let me tell you...

444 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:52:16am

re: #434 opnion

They're young, when I look back now, when I was in, we were kids.
It is not intended as a slight.

While I was in, we might have been kids, But we where better trained...:)

445 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:52:19am

re: #426 kcladderman
Think he was talking about San Francisco in that Quote.

446 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:52:51am

re: #439 Nevergiveup

Yeah, maybe, but when I'm examining all them young Marines, many younger than my oldest daughter, I still think of them as kids sometimes. And I don't mean that in bad way.

Exactly right. We send young people to fight adults & our young people kick ass.

447 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:53:09am

re: #433 apachegunner

mornin Dorian, ready for a lift?

Oh yea... pour a little coffee in my Baileys if you please... ;)

448 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:53:12am

re: #426 kcladderman

Hey KC, how are things at the fire house?

Have you been busy?

449 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:54:21am

re: #426 kcladderman

We don't have KIDSin our armed forces we have MEN & WOMEN

Yes and no. They are adults but, they're their parents children.

450 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:54:45am

re: #438 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

I'm freezing my ass off. How're you?

451 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:54:48am

hiya hoops, back to work? re: #438 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

452 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:54:57am

re: #436 MandyManners
Obama's flipped so many times on clean coal the waffle has collapsed into a spinning sphere and may soon have suffiecient gravitational pull to start increasing its mass.

453 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:55:39am

re: #450 MandyManners

I'm freezing my ass off. How're you?

How many times I gotta tell you

NO BLOGGING OUTSIDE WHILE NAKED !

454 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:55:44am

re: #419 rancher

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.

What does he mean by "we"? He's not a scientist. (Neither am I, but I'm not planning on taking credit for the achievements of scientists.)

I still like the first scientific challenge laid down by a leading authority of the US, which HAS STILL NEVER BEEN ACHIEVED.

[Link: www.teachingamericanhistory.org...]

455 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:55:57am

re: #448 smokefire

Hey KC, how are things at the fire house?

Have you been busy?

I used to have a friend who was with the Minneapolis Fire Department, who on a bet parallel parked a Hook and Ladder truck...:)

456 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:56:41am

re: #361 Joan

An omission that might present a temptation to offer cashee monee to get that Senate seat. Strange. I found JJJ very persuasive on the television and wanted to believe him. Say it isn't so, oh say it isn't so!

Dead bang on temptation to offer cash. It's the Chicago Way.

JJJ is full of more crap than a goose. He's a chip off the old block.

457 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:56:51am

re: #455 Dustyvet
Impressive.

458 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:57:01am

re: #439 Nevergiveup

re: #434 opnion

Yes young men and women I agree. Brave young men and women who chose to stand and fight for us. God bless them all.

459 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:57:04am

re: #452 rancher

Obama's flipped so many times on clean coal the waffle has collapsed into a spinning sphere and may soon have suffiecient gravitational pull to start increasing its mass.

Can't he just finish his cigarette?

460 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:57:06am

Follows the NFL almost religiously. Any early tips for the play-offs?

461 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:57:24am

re: #452 rancher

Obama's flipped so many times on clean coal the waffle has collapsed into a spinning sphere and may soon have suffiecient gravitational pull to start increasing its mass.

Well, don't worry, there's another focus group and opinion poll this morning, perhaps he will change his mind...and, then there's tomorrow's focus group and polls too...If you do not like his stance on a particular issue, fear not, he will come around eventually, for a day at least...

462 rawmuse  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:57:27am

re: #419 rancher

Obama just asked if we can send a man to the moon why can't we figure out a way to make clean burning coal.

Good morning Lizards, I just yesterday saw some anti - coal PR ad on Northern CA. tv. It had no supposed alternative, just one message "there is no such thing as clean burning coal". Why are they running this in an non-election period, and who is paying for it?

463 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:57:52am

re: #453 sattv4u2

How many times I gotta tell you

NO BLOGGING OUTSIDE WHILE NAKED !

How could I forget!

*scampers back inside*

464 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:58:10am

re: #460 Crux Australis

Follows the NFL almost religiously. Any early tips for the play-offs?

Yes, my Arizona Cardinals will lose their first playoff game...take that to bank and bet accordingly

465 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:58:12am

re: #368 CIA Reject

I didn't see anyone respond to your question, so maybe this is moot, but if Blago is/was able to replace Rahm then that might explain the quote about "the fifth CD thing" that appears to be on the wiretap recordings.

466 rancher  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:58:26am

Later all relief here.
Rustler

467 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:58:36am

re: #461 Desert Dog

Well, don't worry, there's another focus group and opinion poll this morning, perhaps he will change his mind...and, then there's tomorrow's focus group and polls too...If you do not like his stance on a particular issue, fear not, he will come around eventually, for a day at least...


yeah, kinda like the chicago weather. spit

468 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:59:05am

re: #462 rawmuse

Good morning Lizards, I just yesterday saw some anti - coal PR ad on Northern CA. tv. It had no supposed alternative, just one message "there is no such thing as clean burning coal". Why are they running this in an non-election period, and who is paying for it?

Pay attention to the ad to see who paid for it. I've never seen a commercial about an issue that didn't show its sponsor.

469 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:59:12am

re: #459 MandyManners

That's why you see the little plume of white smoke coming off the 'spinning globe-it is not a volcano...LOL.

470 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:59:32am

re: #368 CIA Reject

A couple of questions for those more familiar with Illinois politics that I am:

1) Is Rahm Emanuel currently serving as an Illinois congressman?
2) If he is, and he resigns his seat to become BO's WH chief of staff does Blago get to appoint a replacement for him as well?

/Just wondering what else could possibly be on the tape that Emanuel might not have wanted the FBI to hear...

1. Yes, and he's not resigned that either. I find that very, very interesting.

2. Don't know, but it could be.

471 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:59:43am

re: #460 Crux Australis

Follows the NFL almost religiously. Any early tips for the play-offs?

Yes ,,, bet on the team that will have the most points at the end of the game !

472 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:59:48am

re: #465 Lincolntf

I didn't see anyone respond to your question, so maybe this is moot, but if Blago is/was able to replace Rahm then that might explain the quote about "the fifth CD thing" that appears to be on the wiretap recordings.


Is the fifth CD Emanuel's seat?

473 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:59:59am

re: #448 smokefire

Hey KC, how are things at the fire house?

Have you been busy?

Yea all three shifts have been fighting fire lately.I think we have a firebug in the neighborhood. The last few fires have been called in by "passer bys" from payphones a few blocks from the fires.

474 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:00:07am

Will the Lions go 0-16? Apologies for any Lions fans here.

475 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:00:10am
476 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:00:16am

Mornin' all from a frigid, 5 degrees, Pacific Northwest.

477 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:00:29am

re: #450 MandyManners

re: #451 apachegunner

Hi! It's very cold outside with freezing rain here.
I'm back to work for 3 days this week...

478 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:00:31am

re: #472 CIA Reject

Yes, from what I remember.

479 rawmuse  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:00:47am

Yesterday seemed like a great blogging day, lots of stuff going on. I missed all of it, but I think W handled the shoe throwing bit well.

480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:00:53am

re: #471 sattv4u2

Yes ,,, bet on the team that will have the most points at the end of the game !

Can I bet at the end of the game?!

481 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:01:28am

re: #479 rawmuse

By his speed of movement, you could tell he is not a loafer.

482 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:01:37am

re: #462 rawmuse

Good morning Lizards, I just yesterday saw some anti - coal PR ad on Northern CA. tv. It had no supposed alternative, just one message "there is no such thing as clean burning coal". Why are they running this in an non-election period, and who is paying for it?

I googled "no clean coal commercial in Northern California" and got this.

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

483 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:01:57am

re: #473 kcladderman

Yea all three shifts have been fighting fire lately.I think we have a firebug in the neighborhood. The last few fires have been called in by "passer bys" from payphones a few blocks from the fires.

Have either of you read Joe Wambaugh's book "The Fire Lover"?

484 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:02:00am

re: #480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can I bet at the end of the game?!

send your daughters photo and i'll make the arrangements!

485 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:02:11am

NFL playoffs, bet the home team, unless Indy goes to Denver.

486 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:02:25am

re: #374 wahabicorridor

The WSJ is slamming the SEC over the Madoff ponzi scheme

This SEC has been a complete joke and part of why we are in the soup now.

How you could see reported 12% rates of return year after year and not smell a rat is beyond me.

But Cox, the head of the SEC is the same guy who was calling for regulations against "naked short selling" this past fall when it was already prohibited.

487 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:02:52am

re: #462 rawmuse

As I remember-it's a group calling itself 'Reality'. I've mentioned the ads in a few previous threads. I'd tend to believe it's another Soros funded group, but have no actual knowledge of them.

488 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:03:11am

re: #469 Pietr

That's why you see the little plume of white smoke coming off the 'spinning globe-it is not a volcano...LOL.

I'm sorry but, I just don't get it.

489 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:03:24am

re: #462 rawmuse

Good morning Lizards, I just yesterday saw some anti - coal PR ad on Northern CA. tv. It had no supposed alternative, just one message "there is no such thing as clean burning coal". Why are they running this in an non-election period, and who is paying for it?

I cant say for certain who it was, but you can be pretty sure they were imbeciles who would like to kill off humanity to save the world...

490 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:04:02am

re: #483 Dustyvet

No I haven't.

491 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:04:03am

re: #479 rawmuse
Yes!
W. has great reflex action going on!
So? Ya think shoeless Mo was from Al Jezz...?
Oh! And by the way it's 1 dig here !

492 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:04:39am

re: #476 pingjockey

Pingjockey-Realeast left you a message in the last thread. Look for post #37...Cheers.

493 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:04:45am

re: #489 doriangrey
That's in a Tom Clancy book. These asshats are gonna weaponize the ebola virus and kill us all off except for a 'select' few.

494 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:05:00am

re: #487 Pietr

As I remember-it's a group calling itself 'Reality'. I've mentioned the ads in a few previous threads. I'd tend to believe it's another Soros funded group, but have no actual knowledge of them.

I just googled "reality Soros" and came up with zip.

495 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:05:14am

re: #492 Pietr
Thank you!

496 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:05:29am

re: #493 pingjockey

That's in a Tom Clancy book. These asshats are gonna weaponize the ebola virus and kill us all off except for a 'select' few.

If they would just start with themselves the rest of us would be fine...

497 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:05:45am

re: #486 3 wood

naked short selling?
Sorry...Not goin there!

498 rawmuse  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:06:07am

re: #475 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LOL! good one.

499 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:06:18am

Morning all!

Laid out with a cold my son brought home from college. Feel like crap. I'll be here, but will probably just troll... er... lurk. :-)

500 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:06:25am

Well crap... It's time for me to head off to work already... Later Lizards...

501 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:06:28am

The only things that make Winter bearable are my cashmere blanket and the promise of Spring.

502 rawmuse  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:06:55am

re: #482 MandyManners

That is the very one, my dear! bingo.

503 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:07:05am

re: #470 3 wood
re: #478 Lincolntf

I really don't know why I'm interested in this, probably for the same reason people are drawn to train wrecks and airplane crashes, but I just can't shake the feeling that Emanuel had a conversation with Blago that strayed into areas that he knew needed to be reported and when he reported it he deliberately left out incrimminating information that was later discovered on the wire tap. So his story doesn't match the tape, or to sum up, he lied.

/Not that any of that matters to an acolyte of the messiah.

504 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:07:32am

heh re: #481 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

By his speed of movement, you could tell he is not a loafer.

505 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:07:36am

re: #492 Pietr

PIMF...'realwest left you'...

506 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:07:51am

re: #473 kcladderman

...that is not a good sign.

FYI, this is our unofficial photo website. It is run by a guy, who likes to follow us around.

The goings on in the "Rose City", of New England.
[Link: www.rosecitysbravest.com...]

507 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:08:37am

re: #501 MandyManners

The only things that make Winter bearable are my cashmere blanket and the promise of Spring.

TRUE ,, True ,, because in the wintre you just want to sit inside and let the hours pass as you surf the internet and blog

While during the spring you get to sit inside and let the hours pass as you surf the internet and blog!

508 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:09:04am

re: #487 Pietr

As I remember-it's a group calling itself 'Reality'. I've mentioned the ads in a few previous threads. I'd tend to believe it's another Soros funded group, but have no actual knowledge of them.

they are also running television adds, i've seen them many times this past few weeks.

509 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:09:16am

re: #501 MandyManners

The only things that make Winter bearable are my cashmere blanket and the promise of Spring.

Winter is great...

The way a Crow
Shook down on me
A dust of snow
From a Hemlock Tree

As Given my Heart
A Change of Mood
And sved some part
Of a day I had rued.

---Rober Frost.

510 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:09:19am

re: #502 rawmuse

That is the very one, my dear! bingo.

re: #487 Pietr

As I remember-it's a group calling itself 'Reality'. I've mentioned the ads in a few previous threads. I'd tend to believe it's another Soros funded group, but have no actual knowledge of them.

Thisisreality.org

511 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:09:41am

re: #483 Dustyvet

Most of it. Have read dozens of others.

being from Connecticut, I have read all the stories regarding the Circus Fire of 1944.

512 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:09:50am

re: #507 sattv4u2

TRUE ,, True ,, because in the wintre you just want to sit inside and let the hours pass as you surf the internet and blog

While during the spring you get to sit inside and let the hours pass as you surf the internet and blog!

No..We have wireless.. So in the spring i can sit by the pool and blog.

513 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:10:07am

re: #490 kcladderman

No I haven't.

The book is about Captain John Orr an arson investigator with the Glendale, CA fire department, who went to the dark side.

514 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:10:07am

re: #474 Crux Australis

Will the Lions go 0-16? Apologies for any Lions fans here.

Probably.

they always find a way to blow it in the 4th quarter.

Also, the ref's give them no respect/benefit of the doubt at this point, so you can count on some crucial penalties being called at the wrong time.

515 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:10:10am

Gonna' google thisisreality.org and Soros to see what that bastard's been up to lately. bbiab

516 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:10:13am
517 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:10:14am

re: #511 smokefire

Most of it. Have read dozens of others.

being from Connecticut, I have read all the stories regarding the Circus Fire of 1944.

stop clowning around

518 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:11:00am

re: #514 3 wood

Probably.

they always find a way to blow it in the 4th quarter.

Also, the ref's give them no respect/benefit of the doubt at this point, so you can count on some crucial penalties being called at the wrong time.

Connecticut Graduate...QB, Dan Orlovsky

519 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:11:18am

The DOW and S&P 500 futures are now pointing down slightly just before the open.

520 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:12:39am

re: #516 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This is a commercial for Israel?

Well I always had a good time in Israel!

521 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:13:18am

re: #513 Dustyvet

The book is about Captain John Orr an arson investigator with the Glendale, CA fire department, who went to the dark side.

Yea a buddy of mine talks about it all the time. It is on my to read list but i have a stack of civil war books in front of it.

522 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:13:41am
523 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:14:04am

re: #488 MandyManners

I forgot to tag the joke for you Ms Manners-Rancher had described BHO as spinning down into a small globe, you replied Re the cigarrette, and I...I think will settle back for a while...

524 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:14:36am

re: #521 kcladderman
Don't you hate that. Stack of must reads then someone recommends something as good or better.

525 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:15:15am

Arab world hails shoe attack as Bush's farewell gift

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Yeah Obama, go make nicey nice with them. Show em you care? Putz.

526 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:15:21am

re: #460 Crux Australis

Follows the NFL almost religiously. Any early tips for the play-offs?

I would bet against any team in the playoffs from the NFC North. Every team in that division had an advantage nobody else had, and that was to play the Lions twice. Most of the the other teams in that division suck too, and I include the Bears at the front of that line.

527 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:15:51am

re: #521 kcladderman

KC, just wondering, are any of those books, the trilogy series, (Gods and Generals, Killer Angels, and The Last Full Measure?)

528 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:16:48am

re: #527 smokefire

KC, just wondering, are any of those books, the trilogy series, (Gods and Generals, Killer Angels, and The Last Full Measure?)

Killer Angels is the best... the son doesn't write as well as the father.

529 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:16:54am

re: #526 3 wood
Unless Da Bears are playing at home and the weather is shit.

530 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:17:04am

re: #524 pingjockey

Don't you hate that. Stack of must reads then someone recommends something as good or better.

Yea about the only place I get to read is at the engine house.so I don't get through my list very fast.

531 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:17:52am

re: #528 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I agree. I did like them all, though.

532 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:17:57am

re: #526 3 wood

The amazing thing about the Lions to me, frankly, is that these guys are world class athletes. Seriously. How can they make such an awful team?

There are very few football players in the NFL who are not athletic. The big fat guys, the kickers, the Lions fascinate me.

533 rawmuse  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:18:14am

re: #525 Nevergiveup

Someone once described Arab culture as follows; "you either have your boot on their necks, or they have their knives at yours".

Nothing in between.

535 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:18:42am

Here comes the "He's mentally ill" defense.

"2 sides of troubled Illinois governor, sinking deeper"

"And yet, Blagojevich, 52, rarely turns up for work at his official state office in Chicago, former employees say, is unapologetically late to almost everything, and can treat employees with disdain, cursing and erupting in fury for failings as mundane as neglecting to have at hand at all times his preferred black Paul Mitchell hairbrush. He calls the brush "the football," an allusion to the "nuclear football," or the bomb codes never to be out of reach of a president."

[Link: www.iht.com...]

536 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:19:13am

re: #531 smokefire

I agree. I did like them all, though.

Have you tried the Catton stuff? Mr. Lincoln's Army, Stillness at Appomattox, and so on?

537 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:19:41am

re: #530 kcladderman

Yeah, KC, same with me. But don't let that get out, otherwise, we will be accused of doing nothing except, playing pool, and reading, all the time. LOL.

538 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:19:49am

re: #503 CIA Reject

I just can't shake the feeling that Emanuel had a conversation with Blago that strayed into areas that he knew needed to be reported and when he reported it he deliberately left out incrimminating information that was later discovered on the wire tap. So his story doesn't match the tape, or to sum up, he lied.

I'm starting to lean that way. My guess is there's something on the tape that they are trying to figure out how to spin and make go away, otherwise The Messiah would have had another one of his endless press conferences to report on his staff contacts with Blago and give them a clean bill of health.

I think they are going to wait this out and see if something goes public that they have to clean up.

539 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:21:04am

re: #534 MandyManners

Thisisreality.org is a coalition of the Alliance for Climate Protection, League of Conservation Voters, National Wildlife Federation, Natural Resources Defense Council and Sierra Club.

.pdf

Environmental experts agree that coal is the dirtiest fuel America uses to produce electricity. The “Reality” Coalition, then, is challenging the coal industry to come clean – in its advertising and in its operations. Coalcannot be considered clean until its carbon dioxide emissions are captured and stored. “The reality is that there’s not a single home or business in America today powered by clean coal,” said Brian
Hardwick of the Alliance for Climate Protection. “If coal really wants to be part of America’s energy future, the industry can start by making a real commitment to eliminating their pollution that is a leading cause of global warming.”

Hardwick continued: “It is high time for the coal industry to come clean and admit to the American people that today clean coal is not a reality. No matter how much they say it in their advertising, coal can’t truly be clean until the plants can capture global warming pollution. With so much at stake, we can’t afford to hang our hats on an illusion.”

Beginning today, the “Reality” Coalition will launch a multi-million dollar ad campaign, running in print, broadcast and online media and supported by the website, [Link: www.ThisIsReality.org...] The ads were designed and produced by Boulder, Colorado-based Crispin Porter + Bogusky, the agency responsible for the ground-breaking
“Truth” anti-tobacco campaign.

540 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:21:28am

re: #537 smokefire

Yeah, KC, same with me. But don't let that get out, otherwise, we will be accused of doing nothing except, playing pool, and reading, all the time. LOL.

And doing all that wonderful Fire House cooking...:)

541 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:21:47am

re: #536 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Have to admit, no. I think years ago, when I was in College, I did have to read a Bruce Catton book for US History. Memory is hazy on it...should be that was 30+ years ago.

542 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:22:09am

Anyone have the links to CBBHO's promise to bankrupt the coal industry?

543 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:22:42am

re: #540 Dustyvet

And doing all that wonderful Fire House cooking...:)

...oops, forgot that too.

544 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:23:33am

re: #532 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The amazing thing about the Lions to me, frankly, is that these guys are world class athletes. Seriously. How can they make such an awful team?

There are very few football players in the NFL who are not athletic. The big fat guys, the kickers, the Lions fascinate me.

I truly believe that the difference between an ok player and an exceptional player is coaching.

Joe Theisman without Joe Gibbs was a nobody.

Joe Montana is remembered as the greatest QB ever. But if he was drafted by New Orleans instead of SF, that would be very different

545 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:23:43am

re: #539 MandyManners

So all of you that get your electricity from coal, these people want you to freeze to death in the dark. I'll bet they are also against Hydro, Nuc, wind, solar, oil. Any and all power or new power sources. Neo-luddites.

546 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:23:48am

re: #541 smokefire

Have to admit, no. I think years ago, when I was in College, I did have to read a Bruce Catton book for US History. Memory is hazy on it...should be that was 30+ years ago.

Isn't everything? :-)

I went to Basic in 1979 with one book, Grant Takes Command. Couldn't concentrate well enough to read anything until I was in Jump school 3-4 months later. It was like a light switch turned on and I finished in in a couple of days.

547 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:24:00am

re: #529 pingjockey

Unless Da Bears are playing at home and the weather is shit.

I know what you mean.

Bear in mind though that the Bears wide receivers can not block on running plays to save their lives, which means that the Bears can not run wide.

That means they can only go off tackle and any good team in the playoffs should be able to shut that down.

Their receivers can not get separation either.

In other words, their receivers suck.

548 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:24:08am

re: #542 MandyManners

Anyone have the links to CBBHO's promise to bankrupt the coal industry?

...Mandy, ask and ye shall receive.

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

549 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:24:29am

It looks like all the Blago's are in the "family" business...

Patti Blagojevich Accepts New Job

Illinois' First Lady, a licensed real estate agent, has been under federal scrutiny recently for real estate deals involving people with state contracts. Mrs. Blagojevich denied she's leaving real estate due to the scrutiny. She told the Tribune she'll keep her license because, "something comes your way, you have a friend or family member that wants to list a house." She added, "It’s not a matter of getting out of the real estate. It's just, this opportunity came to me. It just seemed like such a great organization and an organization that was looking for an infusion of some new ideas." When asked if anything was happening with the federal probe, she said, "nothing that I know of. I've got no indication that there is any kind of investigation."

[Link: chicagoist.com...]

550 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:24:52am

re: #544 DeafDog
Look at Peyton and Elis' dad. Archie was a helluva QB but played on crappy teams.

551 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:25:06am

re: #538 3 wood

I'm starting to lean that way. My guess is there's something on the tape that they are trying to figure out how to spin and make go away, otherwise The Messiah would have had another one of his endless press conferences to report on his staff contacts with Blago and give them a clean bill of health.

I think they are going to wait this out and see if something goes public that they have to clean up.


I agree with that analysis- the only strange thing about it all is the nagging question: if it's true, why hasn't Emanuel been thrown under the bus?

So is it not true?

Or does Emanuel have something on the messiah that he's using for insurance?

552 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:25:38am

re: #547 3 wood
True dat!

553 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:25:39am

re: #546 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Isn't everything? :-)

I went to Basic in 1979 with one book, Grant Takes Command. Couldn't concentrate well enough to read anything until I was in Jump school 3-4 months later. It was like a light switch turned on and I finished in in a couple of days.

LT you found time to read in Jump School? You get a ding up for that one.

554 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:25:56am

re: #538 3 wood

It's tragicomic watching Obama and staff ducking questions and "triangulating" to avoid a scandal a month before he even takes Office.

555 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:27:05am

Good morning y'all - from a damp but not cold (45 degrees going up to 66 degrees today) Charlotte!
I hope everyone is doing well today!

556 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:27:06am

It's warmed up here in the Denver Metro area...

NINE DEGREES BELOW ZERO.

It's looking like it's setting up for a real heat wave today.

Starting this afternoon, the weather service says we can expect 1-3 inches of fluffy-white global warming crystals.

557 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:27:10am

re: #553 Dustyvet

LT you found time to read in Jump School? You get a ding up for that one.

Wasn't hard. We were done training at 5 or so, took the boots over to the "Boot Blacks", ate, and went back to the barracks to die. Nuttin' to it.

558 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:27:12am

re: #554 Lincolntf
It is what the fools who voted for a Chicago/Illinois machine pol get.

559 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:27:43am

re: #554 Lincolntf

It's tragicomic watching Obama and staff ducking questions and "triangulating" to avoid a scandal a month before he even takes Office.


Welcome to the "new normal"...

*PUKE*

560 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:27:46am

re: #540 Dustyvet

And doing all that wonderful Fire House cooking...:)

Or at least some firehouse eating>

561 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:28:33am

re: #532 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The amazing thing about the Lions to me, frankly, is that these guys are world class athletes. Seriously. How can they make such an awful team?

There is a difference between being an athlete and a football player.

The Lions have a lot of guys on defense who are afraid of contact. They arm tackle, they hand fight, they reach and grab-tackle. Receivers run over the middle there with confidence that they will not get hit hard. running backs take their time picking holes and breaking arm tackles.

Fastest way to turn that team around would be to draft a linebacker and a safety who can hit and turn out some lights.

562 nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:29:34am

re: #561 3 wood

Still it ain't easy to go a whole season winless?

563 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:29:38am

re: #560 kcladderman

Or at least some firehouse eating>

KC, you are from one of the Bar-B-Q capitals of the Country, it must be tough to decide which Bar-B-Q place to go to, if no one wants to cook.

564 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:29:54am

re: #555 realwest
Doing fine. Was gonna email you, Peitr gave me a heads up. Sorry to say I have no frakkin' clue what my incoming and out going email servers are!
But I did put my email in blue. Was just bummed out last night. Better this morning. BBL, have to hold reville!

565 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:30:19am

Good morning.

Apparently, the worst Arab insult EVAH is shoes...not "Jew".

566 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:31:00am

re: #550 pingjockey

Look at Peyton and Elis' dad. Archie was a helluva QB but played on crappy teams.

Yeah, Archie was known as a scrambler, but he was running for his life not out of strategy.

567 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:31:11am

re: #565 WriterMom

Good morning.

Apparently, the worst Arab insult EVAH is shoes...not "Jew".

Can we start a shoe mailing campaign to various Saudi princes and such?

568 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:31:46am

re: #525 Nevergiveup

Arab world hails shoe attack as Bush's farewell gift

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
Yeah Obama, go make nicey nice with them. Show em you care? Putz.


He is throwing a temper tantrum because he is upset that America liberated Iraq from Saddam Hussein's dictatorship.
He is like a neutered Chihuahua, lots of noise and activity but of little importance.

569 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:31:56am

re: #565 WriterMom

Good morning.

Apparently, the worst Arab insult EVAH is shoes...not "Jew".

...George WAS the Owner of the Texas Rangers, so his reaction was pretty good. Gold Glove handling that hard shot.

570 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:31:57am

re: #567 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Can we start a shoe mailing campaign to various Saudi princes and such?

How about used jump boots...:)

571 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:32:20am

re: #542 MandyManners

Here is a FNC link...[Link: foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com...]

572 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:32:40am

re: #550 pingjockey

Imagine OJ on a good team. Barry Sanders.

573 rawmuse  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:32:51am

re: #567 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Can we start a shoe mailing campaign to various Saudi princes and such?

I'm in. size 14 EE. try knocking me over, good luck with that.

574 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:32:55am

re: #567 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Can we start a shoe mailing campaign to various Saudi princes and such?


I nominate my neighbor's St. Bernard to provide the "pre-treatment" for the shoes...

575 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:32:56am

re: #538 3 wood

re: #551 CIA Reject

I agree with that analysis- the only strange thing about it all is the nagging question: if it's true, why hasn't Emanuel been thrown under the bus?
So is it not true?

Or does Emanuel have something on the messiah that he's using for insurance?

My guess is that whatever they have on tape re: Emanuel isn't enough for an indictment. His phraseology while talking to Blago probably isn't concrete enough to be prosecuted as an offer.

576 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:33:23am

re: #539 MandyManners

Environmental experts agree that coal is the dirtiest fuel America uses to produce electricity. The “Reality” Coalition, then, is challenging the coal industry to come clean – in its advertising and in its operations. Coalcannot be considered clean until its carbon dioxide emissions are captured and stored. “The reality is that there’s not a single home or business in America today powered by clean coal,” said Brian
Hardwick of the Alliance for Climate Protection. “If coal really wants to be part of America’s energy future, the industry can start by making a real commitment to eliminating their pollution that is a leading cause of global warming.”

Hardwick continued: “It is high time for the coal industry to come clean and admit to the American people that today clean coal is not a reality. No matter how much they say it in their advertising, coal can’t truly be clean until the plants can capture global warming pollution. With so much at stake, we can’t afford to hang our hats on an illusion.”

Beginning today, the “Reality” Coalition will launch a multi-million dollar ad campaign, running in print, broadcast and online media and supported by the website, [Link: www.ThisIsReality.org...] The ads were designed and produced by Boulder, Colorado-based Crispin Porter + Bogusky, the agency responsible for the ground-breaking
“Truth” anti-tobacco campaign.


Ask them to tell that to the Chinese, they are the world's largest coal consumer.

577 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:33:25am

re: #567 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Can we start a shoe mailing campaign to various Saudi princes and such?

Attach a note to the shoe..."Please hit yourself with this..."

578 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:33:37am

re: #570 Dustyvet

How about used jump boots...:)

Expensive, but a nice thought.

579 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:33:43am

re: #555 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a damp but not cold (45 degrees going up to 66 degrees today) Charlotte!
I hope everyone is doing well today!

I was expecting you log on last night after the Giants game..
The question is: How Are YOU doing today?

580 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:33:44am

re: #563 smokefire

KC, you are from one of the Bar-B-Q capitals of the Country, it must be tough to decide which Bar-B-Q place to go to, if no one wants to cook.

Oh we have a very nice joint just a few blocks from the engine house.

581 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:33:51am

re: #573 rawmuse

Are you an elephant? Dang.

582 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:33:58am


I could not resist, please forgive me.

583 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:34:35am

morning RW, how ya doing? re: #555 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a damp but not cold (45 degrees going up to 66 degrees today) Charlotte!
I hope everyone is doing well today!

584 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:34:38am

re: #577 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Attach a note to the shoe..."Please hit yourself with this..."

Written on the sole...

585 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:34:46am

re: #555 realwest

Cowboys fan here. Giants could kill us in the play-offs.

586 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:34:46am

re: #551 CIA Reject

if it's true, why hasn't Emanuel been thrown under the bus?

So is it not true?

Or does Emanuel have something on the messiah that he's using for insurance?

Now you are starting to get a grasp on how Chicago politics works.

They all are hip deep in the same sewer.

587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:35:13am

re: #584 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Written on the sole...

Send a fish?

588 yochanan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:35:20am

re: #361 Joan

An omission that might present a temptation to offer cashee monee to get that Senate seat. Strange. I found JJJ very persuasive on the television and wanted to believe him. Say it isn't so, oh say it isn't so!

IT AIN'T SO

589 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:36:11am

re: #587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Send a fish?

I'm sick... cut me some slack. ;-)

590 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:36:14am

re: #580 kcladderman

all we have is Pizza, Chinese, Dominos, and Sub-Ways.

591 iceman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:36:26am

Evolution lovers...

I just had my ispeakit application read the 139 page Kitzmiller decision written by Judge Jones into a sound file. It is 4 hours and 9 minutes and about 114 mb If you would like to have it on your ipod you may download it below. You might want to listen to a few seconds of the sample to see if the computer voice is OK for you. I find I get used to it and enjoy using the application to listen to recent articles in the news, especially long ones.

I run and hike in the woods and listen to podcasts and creations like this. I love it and have stopped listening to music.


sample audio, 2 minutes is here

you can play it in the window, It is less than 2 minutes or 900kb


full decision of Kitzmiller 114 mb, 4 hours is here

ispeakit text to audio conversion program for mac is here

windows application of a similar program is here

592 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:37:10am

re: #578 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Expensive, but a nice thought.

I have found memories of my first pair, when I entered the Army in 1967. $20.00 a pair and worth every dime of it. When I got called up for Desert Shield/Desert Storm. I bought another pair at clothing sales, and paid well over $90.00.

593 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:37:39am

re: #591 iceman

It is 4 hours and 9 minutes

I'll wait till I can get in in Cliff Notes Version!

594 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:38:03am

re: #589 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I think he was just stringing you along.

pops white smoke...

595 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:38:03am

I've found no conclusive evidence that Soros is funding thisisreality.org. That doesn't mean that he's not.

596 nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:38:06am

re: #572 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Imagine OJ on a good team. Barry Sanders.

I wonder how their prison team is in Nevada?

597 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:39:04am

re: #562 nevergiveup

Still it ain't easy to go a whole season winless?

Very hard, but at this point I think the Lions have quit. They won't admit it of course, but it looks tat way to me.

Very few linemen are finishing blocks. The receivers do not want to go over the middle. The defense is specializing in arm tackles and giving up on pursuit.

The secondary is going for "kill shots" on their tackles to get highlight time on ESPN, and are missing tackles.

If any team is capable of going O fer the season, its these guys.

598 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:39:13am

re: #595 MandyManners

I've found no conclusive evidence that Soros is funding thisisreality.org. That doesn't mean that he's not.

Oh come on, you know he is.

599 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:39:17am

re: #575 sattv4u2

re: #551 CIA Reject

My guess is that whatever they have on tape re: Emanuel isn't enough for an indictment. His phraseology while talking to Blago probably isn't concrete enough to be prosecuted as an offer.


Agreed. What he said on the tape is probably not enough to incriminate him. BUT if he didn't know about the wiretap and provided a "sanitized" version of the conversation to investigators thinking he could dodge the issue he NOW has problems that would make him a prime candiate for the bottom of the bus...

600 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:39:39am

re: #592 Dustyvet

I have found memories of my first pair, when I entered the Army in 1967. $20.00 a pair and worth every dime of it. When I got called up for Desert Shield/Desert Storm. I bought another pair at clothing sales, and paid well over $90.00.

33 years in they called your ass up? What kind of 007 MOS did you have? Is your name Schwartzkopf or something?

601 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:39:39am

re: #596 nevergiveup

I wonder how their prison team is in Nevada?

...are they considering ANOTHER remake of the Longest Yard?

602 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:39:48am

re: #598 Walter L. Newton

Oh come on, you know he is.


Does it really matter?

603 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:39:53am

The DOW and the S&P 500 are slightly up at the open.

604 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:39:56am

Thanks, smokefire and Pietr for the links to the CBBHO info. Bookmarked.

605 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:40:24am

re: #594 Pietr

I think he was just stringing you along.

pops white smoke...

Limited capability today... locking in on smoke... starting hot run...

606 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:40:44am

re: #585 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cowboys fan here. Giants could kill us in the play-offs.

Don't worry.

The Cowboys will lose to the Eagles on last week of the Season.

No playoffs for you.

607 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:40:49am

re: #598 Walter L. Newton

Oh come on, you know he is.

All I've found are the groups that are behind it, which I linked to up above.

608 Beach Lover  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:41:00am

re: #575 sattv4u2
Good Morning all,
did you see that the Chicago Tribune had held printing the article that the feds were listening to Blago for over a month, and that he was under investigation. Then, just when they were getting close to having the actual arrangements from the players on tape...the Tribune printed the story. Seems someone is protecting Obama and Rahm as well as JJJ. This whole thing stinks, because now the have mostly noise except on Blago.

609 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:41:37am

re: #602 shanec99

Does it really matter?

Yes. Yes it does. We need to keep track of what that bastard is doing to our nation. His tentacles run deep and wide.

610 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:41:50am

re: #607 MandyManners

All I've found are the groups that are behind it, which I linked to up above.

I know, I was being snarky. It's just amazing where his name DOES show up.

611 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:42:09am

re: #604 MandyManners

You are welcome Mandy. ...bows down with a flourish> LOL

612 bosforus  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:42:35am

re: #608 Beach Lover

Good Morning all,
did you see that the Chicago Tribune had held printing the article that the feds were listening to Blago for over a month, and that he was under investigation. Then, just when they were getting close to having the actual arrangements from the players on tape...the Tribune printed the story. Seems someone is protecting Obama and Rahm as well as JJJ. This whole thing stinks, because now the have mostly noise except on Blago.

That's Gotham Chicago for ya.

613 iceman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:42:42am

re: #593 sattv4u2

here you go

NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS ORDERED THAT:
1. A declaratory judgment is hereby issued in favor of Plaintiffs pursuant
to 28 U.S.C. §§ 2201, 2202, and 42 U.S.C. § 1983 such that
Defendants’ ID Policy violates the Establishment Clause of the First
Amendment of the Constitution of the United States and Art. I, § 3 of
the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
2. Pursuant to Fed.R.Civ.P. 65, Defendants are permanently enjoined
from maintaining the ID Policy in any school within the Dover Area
School District.
3. Because Plaintiffs seek nominal damages, Plaintiffs shall file with the
Court and serve on Defendants, their claim for damages and a verified
statement of any fees and/or costs to which they claim entitlement.
Defendants shall have the right to object to any such fees and costs to
the extent provided in the applicable statutes and court rules.
s/John E. Jones III
John E. Jones III
United States District Judge

614 Crux Australis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:42:46am

re: #576 shanec99

Ask them to tell that to the Chinese, they are the world's largest coal consumer.

And Australia can't ship our coal to China quick enough. It's really incredible how much we do.

615 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:42:52am

re: #590 smokefire

all we have is Pizza, Chinese, Dominos, and Sub-Ways.

We cook almost all of the time. Unless we have something that comes up in the morning and throws off the lunch schedule. Then we have a few little neighborhood places we go, BBQ at Big T's tenderloins at Kitty's Cafe or Harold's breakfast sandwiches none of them good for you but all of them ohh soo good.

616 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:42:59am

re: #585 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did you see the ESPN special on the "Greatest Game Ever Played"? Amazing amount of Hall of Famers in that game. BTW the assistant coaches for the Giants in the 1958 title Game against the Colts were a couple of guys named Lombardi and Landry!

617 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:43:51am

re: #602 shanec99

Does it really matter?

I was being a bit sarcastic, but yes, we do. We have clear evidence of his past actions, even his own statements on how he wants to bring this country down.

Yea, I'd say that was someone I would want to keep track of.

618 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:43:57am

re: #608 Beach Lover

re: #597 3 wood

BEACH LOVER

UpThread 3 Wood had info stating that the Trib had an agreement with the Feds to hold the story

619 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:44:02am

re: #609 MandyManners

Yes. Yes it does. We need to keep track of what that bastard is doing to our nation. His tentacles run deep and wide.

Soros and global warming myth.

620 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:45:13am

re: #610 Walter L. Newton

I know, I was being snarky. It's just amazing where his name DOES show up.

Busy little bastard.

621 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:45:16am

re: #619 MandyManners
Soros is a fucking parasite.

622 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:45:18am

re: #600 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

33 years in they called your ass up? What kind of 007 MOS did you have? Is your name Schwartzkopf or something?

I was in the USAR with the 5501st U S Army Hospital out of Fort Snelling, Minnesota.
I was in process of transfering to the Inactive Ready Reserve, when I got the "Raging Bull Call. My MOS was medic, at the time. I ended up doing Military Police/Hospital Security for Brooke Army Medical Center.

623 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:45:26am

re: #615 kcladderman

...um um ummm.

You are killing me.

OT, KC, did you ever see the Old TV show, M*A*S*H, and the episode about the Rib joint in Chicago, and how they had them ship ribs all the way to Korea?

624 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:45:30am

re: #599 CIA Reject

Amazing how even the slightest "appearance of conflict" is enough to get the press all worked up into an indignant lather when it's a Repub. scandal, while it takes an actual indictment for them to consider a matter remotely serious when dealing with the Dems (sometimes not even then).

625 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:45:56am

re: #586 3 wood

Now you are starting to get a grasp on how Chicago politics works.

They all are hip deep in the same sewer.


The sewer extends way beyond Chicago- which is part of the reason why I'm actually proud of my nic...

/Gotta go do some work - BBL

626 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:46:10am

re: #609 MandyManners

Yes. Yes it does. We need to keep track of what that bastard is doing to our nation. His tentacles run deep and wide.


Is there anything we can do?... It seems that everything he does is legal... he has the right to say and fund any organization he wants to... its called free speech. He earned his money so he should be free to spend it anyway he chooses. My response to his prolific spending is what my ole granny used to say: " a fool and his money are soon parted."
What we should do is ensure that his and everyone elses free speech rights are protected. It is especially important that we ensure more free speech not less, anything we do to put a curb on individual expression will bite us in the behind.

627 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:46:14am

re: #623 smokefire

...um um ummm.

You are killing me.

OT, KC, did you ever see the Old TV show, M*A*S*H, and the episode about the Rib joint in Chicago, and how they had them ship ribs all the way to Korea?

WITH Cole Slaw, and extra sauce

628 3 wood  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:46:22am

re: #555 realwest

Good morning real.

It's 5 degrees here, with a half inch of ice on the streets.

Some global warming.

629 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:46:26am

re: #616 pingjockey

that was THE GAME, that started interest in the NFL, on TV.

630 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:46:48am

re: #604 MandyManners

You are very welcome-you provided all the key pieces on the Greenie coalition tho. You make a good detective, what one terms a deductive mind.

Rats-hit new comments, instead of post...so I'm late...:>(

631 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:46:51am

Aarrrggghhh. I've put off reorganizing my links long enough. I've talked about it. I've thought about it. Now it's time to just do it.

632 bosforus  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:47:01am

re: #608 Beach Lover

Forgive my asking but how did you learn that? I haven't been on lgf the last few days.

633 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:47:02am

re: #627 sattv4u2

touche.

634 bosforus  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:47:14am

re: #631 MandyManners

Aarrrggghhh. I've put off reorganizing my links long enough. I've talked about it. I've thought about it. Now it's time to just do it.

Don't do it, it's a trap!

635 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:47:22am

re: #623 smokefire

...um um ummm.

You are killing me.

OT, KC, did you ever see the Old TV show, M*A*S*H, and the episode about the Rib joint in Chicago, and how they had them ship ribs all the way to Korea?

And Hawkeye forgot to order coleslaw with the ribs...:)

636 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:47:32am

re: #621 pingjockey

Soros is a fucking parasite.

Remember what he did to Hungarian Jews' property during the Holocaust.

637 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:47:36am

re: #622 Dustyvet

I was in the USAR with the 5501st U S Army Hospital out of Fort Snelling, Minnesota.
I was in process of transfering to the Inactive Ready Reserve, when I got the "Raging Bull Call. My MOS was medic, at the time. I ended up doing Military Police/Hospital Security for Brooke Army Medical Center.

Perfect army operation. I'm sure the geniuses in the Head Shed were proud of that one.

/tips glass of cough syrup in your direction... medics are Christ's hands on this earth.

638 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:47:40am

re: #464 Desert Dog

Yes, my Arizona Cardinals will lose their first playoff game...take that to bank and bet accordingly

but if they win then Kurt W should be MVP imo...and that would be a good thing for the Cards

639 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:47:53am

re: #623 smokefire

...um um ummm.

You are killing me.

OT, KC, did you ever see the Old TV show, M*A*S*H, and the episode about the Rib joint in Chicago, and how they had them ship ribs all the way to Korea?

Yea I saw that one. Well actually I have seen them all. I liked that show but I loved the movie.

640 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:48:19am

re: #631 MandyManners

Aarrrggghhh. I've put off reorganizing my links long enough. I've talked about it. I've thought about it. Now it's time to just do it.

...Mandy, put off what you can do today to tomorrow, it will always be there.

641 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:48:34am

re: #629 smokefire
I got a kick out of how NBC fixed their technical difficulty. Lost transmission somehow, no TV timeouts of course, so the producer had some guy run on the field to delay the game until the problem could be fixed!

642 iceman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:48:56am

re: #625 CIA Reject

A daughter of a friends was rejected from the CIA because she had such a high baseline level of anxiety that here polygraph was not valid. She tried three times and then went to work for the State Department.

643 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:48:57am

re: #624 Lincolntf

Amazing how even the slightest "appearance of conflict" is enough to get the press all worked up into an indignant lather when it's a Repub. scandal, while it takes an actual indictment for them to consider a matter remotely serious when dealing with the Dems (sometimes not even then).


Rush L. had a great line the other day.

If it's a Republican scandal, the press becomes Prosecuting Attorneys; if it's a Democratic scandal, the press becomes Defense Attorneys.

644 Beach Lover  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:49:03am

re: #618 sattv4u2

here's where I got my info
[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]

645 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:49:21am

OT ,,,

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Grand Jury Probes Richardson Donor’s New Mexico Financing Fee

It just gets funnerer and funnerer!

646 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:49:25am

re: #636 MandyManners

Remember what he did to Hungarian Jews' property during the Holocaust.


What did he do?

647 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:49:31am

Good morning.

I can't believe, given the thread's epigraph, that nobody has mentioned The Mighty Quinn, a quirky 1989 movie starring Denzel Washington. Not his best flick, but it's the only one I know that has at least a passing reference to the role of subsonic munitions in a properly suppressed handgun.

648 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:49:43am

re: #626 shanec99

Is there anything we can do?... It seems that everything he does is legal... he has the right to say and fund any organization he wants to... its called free speech. He earned his money so he should be free to spend it anyway he chooses. My response to his prolific spending is what my ole granny used to say: " a fool and his money are soon parted."
What we should do is ensure that his and everyone elses free speech rights are protected. It is especially important that we ensure more free speech not less, anything we do to put a curb on individual expression will bite us in the behind.

Let's work to ensure that the Lefties in Congress don't work to shut down talk radio.

649 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:49:49am

re: #636 MandyManners
No, the only thing I know this slime did was manipulate currency. Was he some sort of Nazi/Kapo confiscator of property?

650 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:50:33am

re: #641 pingjockey

I got a kick out of how NBC fixed their technical difficulty. Lost transmission somehow, no TV timeouts of course, so the producer had some guy run on the field to delay the game until the problem could be fixed!

the old days.

Then lets fast forward to 1968, and the infamous Heidi Game between the Raiders and the Jets.

651 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:50:34am

re: #630 Pietr

You are very welcome-you provided all the key pieces on the Greenie coalition tho. You make a good detective, what one terms a deductive mind.

Rats-hit new comments, instead of post...so I'm late...:>(

I'm a certified paralegal and a former reporter.

652 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:51:17am

re: #637 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Perfect army operation. I'm sure the geniuses in the Head Shed were proud of that one.

/tips glass of cough syrup in your direction... medics are Christ's hands on this earth.


Yeah, but Navy Hospital Corpsmen are the few good men the Marine Corps always talk about.

653 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:51:18am

re: #650 smokefire
I remember that. I was 9 and thought dad was actually gonna shoot the tv!

654 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:51:42am

re: #643 DeafDog

That's a perfect description of the press.

655 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:51:59am

re: #626 shanec99

He almost bankrupted the English pound some years back, thru his manipulations in various money markets, IIRC. He is sneaky, and makes a profit even while working toward his own goals-so it pays to attempt to see what his goals are. Maybe that way we can thwart them, or at least contain the damage.

656 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:52:08am

re: #640 smokefire

...Mandy, put off what you can do today to tomorrow, it will always be there.

I've eliminated about 200 of my maximum 2,500 bookmarks but, I keep on adding. While I have blocks of CBBHO bookmarks (about 250 now), they tend to get scattered.

657 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:52:17am

re: #626 shanec99

Is there anything we can do?... It seems that everything he does is legal... he has the right to say and fund any organization he wants to... its called free speech. He earned his money so he should be free to spend it anyway he chooses. My response to his prolific spending is what my ole granny used to say: " a fool and his money are soon parted."
What we should do is ensure that his and everyone elses free speech rights are protected. It is especially important that we ensure more free speech not less, anything we do to put a curb on individual expression will bite us in the behind.

What the fuck is got up you ass this morning. Gee, you certainly built a GIANT strawman there above, all based on the fact that Mandy prefers to keep track of Soros' machinations.

No one here has EVER suggested that Soros should not have the freedom of speech offered in this country.

No one here has EVER suggested that Soros' speech should be curbed.

If you are going to make statements like you do above, you need to back them up with some links.

Show us were we suggested any of your stupid pronouncements?

658 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:52:19am

re: #648 MandyManners

Let's work to ensure that the Lefties in Congress don't work to shut down talk radio.


Baby we are on the same page.

659 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:52:32am

re: #647 Occasional Reader

660 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:52:44am

re: #649 pingjockey

No, the only thing I know this slime did was manipulate currency. Was he some sort of Nazi/Kapo confiscator of property?

Yes. bbiab w/ the link

661 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:52:45am

re: #652 shanec99
You want to win a trivia question? Ask what navy rating has the most MoHs. Corpsmen of course.

662 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:52:59am

re: #651 MandyManners

I'm a certified paralegal and a former reporter.

I wouldn't know what to do with Airborne Lawyers. I'll admit they did good work on D-Day by dropping into occupied France and filing restraining orders on the Wehrmacht. That delayed the release of the Panzer Divisions for a few hours while the appeal process went through...

663 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:53:51am

re: #561 3 wood

There is a difference between being an athlete and a football player.

The Lions have a lot of guys on defense who are afraid of contact. They arm tackle, they hand fight, they reach and grab-tackle. Receivers run over the middle there with confidence that they will not get hit hard. running backs take their time picking holes and breaking arm tackles.

Fastest way to turn that team around would be to draft a linebacker and a safety who can hit and turn out some lights.

a decent QB adds alot too...

664 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:53:52am

re: #637 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Perfect army operation. I'm sure the geniuses in the Head Shed were proud of that one.

/tips glass of cough syrup in your direction... medics are Christ's hands on this earth.

They has so many of us called up to Fort Sam Houston, we got quarted in a Motel our by the San Antonio Airport for the first three weeks we where down there. I also was on a morning police call one morning, with a bunch of guys in civvies, as we policed the area, we discovered that all the guys in civvies, where doctors and commissioned officers, some where field grade.

665 maddogg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:54:15am

re: #647 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

I can't believe, given the thread's epigraph, that nobody has mentioned The Mighty Quinn, a quirky 1989 movie starring Denzel Washington. Not his best flick, but it's the only one I know that has at least a passing reference to the role of subsonic munitions in a properly suppressed handgun.


Everybody knows you can't use supersonic ammo and expect to suppress the noise due to the sonic shock wave produced by the bullet.

666 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:54:31am

They've arrested some asshole for the Woodburn Ore. bank bombing.

667 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:54:37am

re: #652 shanec99

Yeah, but Navy Hospital Corpsmen are the few good men the Marine Corps always talk about.

You bet... but we _really_ don't want to get into the "few good men" the Navy is looking for...

/not that there is anything wrong with that. :-)

668 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:54:58am
669 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:55:28am

re: #667 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Watch it LT.

670 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:55:53am

re: #657 Walter L. Newton

What the fuck is got up you ass this morning. Gee, you certainly built a GIANT strawman there above, all based on the fact that Mandy prefers to keep track of Soros' machinations.

No one here has EVER suggested that Soros should not have the freedom of speech offered in this country.

No one here has EVER suggested that Soros' speech should be curbed.

If you are going to make statements like you do above, you need to back them up with some links.

Show us were we suggested any of your stupid pronouncements?


Down baby boy, down.

I never suggested that she shouldn't, I asked if it mattered... and I commented that we should committ ourselves to ensure that we guarantee everyone's free speech rights.
Let the fool talk as much as he wants... our side should be prepared to fight back. More free speech my friend, not less.

671 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:55:54am

re: #668 MandyManners
Thanks Mandy!

672 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:56:22am

re: #664 Dustyvet

They has so many of us called up to Fort Sam Houston, we got quarted in a Motel our by the San Antonio Airport for the first three weeks we where down there. I also was on a morning police call one morning, with a bunch of guys in civvies, as we policed the area, we discovered that all the guys in civvies, where doctors and commissioned officers, some where field grade.

Sorry, I can't compute the image of a 33 year career vet doing a friggin' police call in CONUS.

/Getting to the doctors on police call part is just too steep of a climb.

673 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:56:49am

re: #662 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I wouldn't know what to do with Airborne Lawyers. I'll admit they did good work on D-Day by dropping into occupied France and filing restraining orders on the Wehrmacht. That delayed the release of the Panzer Divisions for a few hours while the appeal process went through...

Huh? All I did was reply to Pietr's comment that I'm a good detective.

674 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:56:54am

re: #669 pingjockey

Watch it LT.

Slap a fish and all the squids come a running.

/How's it going Ping?

675 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:57:16am

re: #661 pingjockey

You want to win a trivia question? Ask what navy rating has the most MoHs. Corpsmen of course.


Dude I am a HMC (8404/8506/8425). In the Navy we dont has MOH or MOS we have NECs.

676 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:57:58am

re: #671 pingjockey

Thanks Mandy!

You're welcome. I've the 60 Minutes interview somewhere. bbiab w/ that one

677 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:58:08am

re: #673 MandyManners

Huh? All I did was reply to Pietr's comment that I'm a good detective.

Joke based on "para" "legal"... think about it. ;-)

678 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:58:29am

Hey y'all - sorry, had to step away for a few minutes kinda unexpectedly!
Good morning to all of you again - as for the Giants well, when you have no downfield wide receiver threat, then the other team's defense can single cover your receivers and when you have no healthy big time running backs you're looking at 7 or 8 in the defensive box - makes it hard to run and poor Eli couldn't complete a whole lot of passes cause he was on his back.
Giants have given up 24 sacks this year - 12 to the Cowboys in two games and only 12 other sacks in all of the other 12 games they've played. Plus we lost two more offensive linemen last night (right tackle and left guard) so thank's to Plaxico's shooting himself in the leg, I don't think the Giant's will go far in the playoffs, - probably won't get past the Cowboys in the first game - but we know who the Giant's will be looking to draft or trade for in the off season!
Good thing for Dumbass Plaxico he wasn't anywhere near where I live last night!

679 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:59:02am

re: #673 MandyManners

You said Para Legal-or so it was interpretted by the gentleman.

680 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:59:15am

re: #667 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

You bet... but we _really_ don't want to get into the "few good men" the Navy is looking for...

/not that there is anything wrong with that. :-)


The Navy tells everyone its not a Job... its an adventure. We are not looking for men in the Navy... we spend our time finding good women in all the foreign ports.

681 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:59:20am

re: #675 shanec99

Dude I am a HMC (8404/8506/8425). In the Navy we dont has MOH or MOS we have NECs.

Well, that's your problem right there. No proper MOS's. Before long the whole Navy will be doing police calls in Texas with the Army doctors...

682 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:59:56am

re: #665 maddogg

Robert Townsend, also.

683 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:00:34am

re: #665 maddogg

Everybody knows you can't use supersonic ammo and expect to suppress the noise due to the sonic shock wave produced by the bullet.

"Everybody"? I'm talking Hollywood here! The same industry that tried to convince viewers of the existence of gun whose bullets travel "almost at the speed of light" (Eraser, with Arnie S.).

684 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:00:46am

re: #680 shanec99

The Navy tells everyone its not a Job... its an adventure. We are not looking for men in the Navy... we spend our time finding good women in all the foreign ports.

I'll bow to you guys, only the Navy could convince men that chipping paint is an adventure.

685 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:00:51am

re: #674 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Heh! Doing ok. Not looking forward to working outside this week. The high temp is supposed to be 12! Could be worse I could be on the west side of the Cascades. I-5 corridor. They had some snow and it's freezing over there. No snow plows and nobody has snow tires on their rigs. Mwahaha!

686 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:01:33am

re: #672 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Sorry, I can't compute the image of a 33 year career vet doing a friggin' police call in CONUS.

/Getting to the doctors on police call part is just too steep of a climb.

Well you know the Army, it was make busy work...can't have all these folks sitting around asking questions about the call up. After three days of that, I went to my 1st Shirt and informed him, play me or trade me (work me in my MOS, or send me home)

687 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:01:43am

re: #683 Occasional Reader
Hey O.R. - is that the same Hollywood that invented guns that never need to be re-loaded?!

688 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:02:04am

re: #685 pingjockey

Heh! Doing ok. Not looking forward to working outside this week. The high temp is supposed to be 12! Could be worse I could be on the west side of the Cascades. I-5 corridor. They had some snow and it's freezing over there. No snow plows and nobody has snow tires on their rigs. Mwahaha!

You up in the mountains?

689 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:02:22am

re: #678 realwest

Hey y'all - sorry, had to step away for a few minutes kinda unexpectedly!
Good morning to all of you again - as for the Giants well, when you have no downfield wide receiver threat, then the other team's defense can single cover your receivers and when you have no healthy big time running backs you're looking at 7 or 8 in the defensive box - makes it hard to run and poor Eli couldn't complete a whole lot of passes cause he was on his back.
Giants have given up 24 sacks this year - 12 to the Cowboys in two games and only 12 other sacks in all of the other 12 games they've played. Plus we lost two more offensive linemen last night (right tackle and left guard) so thank's to Plaxico's shooting himself in the leg, I don't think the Giant's will go far in the playoffs, - probably won't get past the Cowboys in the first game - but we know who the Giant's will be looking to draft or trade for in the off season!
Good thing for Dumbass Plaxico he wasn't anywhere near where I live last night!

the Cowboys defense is waking up...maybe too late but they are a very dangerous team right now...injuries have nearly ruined the season for them and they must be perfect to get to the playoffs...they have no fear of the Gints...never have...and btw not having Peterson is huge...the guy is a beast

690 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:02:24am

re: #685 pingjockey
Hey Ping - when you get a chance, kindly check your e-mail, ok?

691 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:02:47am

Gun thread again..GA.

Mandy-got any more firemen?

692 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:02:57am
693 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:03:03am

re: #688 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Yep. Wenatchee Valley area. About 2 1/2 hours east of Seattle. Dry side of the Cascades.

694 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:03:05am

re: #680 shanec99

The Navy tells everyone its not a Job... its an adventure. We are not looking for men in the Navy... we spend our time finding good women in all the foreign ports.

Yea they told me it was an adventure after my 20th 16 hour workday on the flight deck I was thinking This feels like a job.

695 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:03:10am

BTW - has anyone heard anything about Palin's church being set on fire - any leads, suspects, definite motives?

696 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:03:16am

Well all, BBIAW, time to get back to watching the Complete Soprano's Box Set. Early Christmas present to me. Just got done watching to Complete HIGHLANDER series.

IN THE END THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE. We (Vagabond Trader, and me) love it.

Later.

697 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:03:31am

re: #690 realwest
Aye, aye.

698 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:03:46am

re: #684 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'll bow to you guys, only the Navy could convince men that chipping paint is an adventure.

Many years ago, Saturday Night Live did a hilarious sendup of the "Navy, it's not just a job..." ads. "Port of Call: Bayonne, New Jersey", followed by that hard-hitting action music, and video clips of sailors swabbing decks, cleaning toilets, etc.

699 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:03:53am

Have I linked this already? It's a partial transcript.

[Link: www.sorosmonitor.com...]

ClintonDemocrats.com

700 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:04:03am

re: #687 realwest

Hey O.R. - is that the same Hollywood that invented guns that never need to be re-loaded?!

Yes, I'm still looking for one of those!

701 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:04:40am

re: #677 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Joke based on "para" "legal"... think about it. ;-)

Oh, duh. I can be a block-head when I'm in the zone.

Need a break. bbiaw

702 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:04:55am

Good Morning all. It's freeezing where I am.

The Democrat's corruption problem. Luckily -they have the DNC media to cover it all up.

703 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:04:55am

re: #685 pingjockey

Heh! Doing ok. Not looking forward to working outside this week. The high temp is supposed to be 12! Could be worse I could be on the west side of the Cascades. I-5 corridor. They had some snow and it's freezing over there. No snow plows and nobody has snow tires on their rigs. Mwahaha!

In the Denver Metro area it went all the way down to -18 last night at the airport, sitting at -9 right now.

And we are suppose to get 1-3 inches of some of that global warming crystals by morning.

704 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:05:12am

re: #683 Occasional Reader

I might have missed that-I thought what they were supposedly using in Eraser was a miniaturized rail gun? And a rail gun round is faster than sound, but no one has ever tried for light velocity with one, to my knowledge. Heck the supersonic ones they make now melt the rails.

705 iceman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:05:26am

pigmy baby marmosets

if you don't think this is cute...the terrorists have won the bear market will continue

706 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:06:08am

re: #686 Dustyvet

Well you know the Army, it was make busy work...can't have all these folks sitting around asking questions about the call up. After three days of that, I went to my 1st Shirt and informed him, play me or trade me (work me in my MOS, or send me home)

In the infantry, you'd be looking at a guy with a face like a used catcher's glove who'd spit his tobacco juice next to your feet and tell you to get the f*ck out of his AO.

707 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:06:33am

re: #704 Pietr

I thought what they were supposedly using in Eraser was a miniaturized rail gun? And a rail gun round is faster than sound

Yes, that's what I'm referring to. Speed of sound, speed of light... what's the difference? Hey, it's showbiz!
/

708 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:07:47am

re: #691 WriterMom

Gun thread again..GA.

Mandy-got any more firemen?

Now, there's a way to cleanse the mental palate.

Here's another.

And, another.

709 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:07:52am

Good Morning everyone. Hope you are all well this chilly morning!

710 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:08:13am

re: #689 albusteve
Injuries have nearly ruined the season for the Cowboys?
Hell the Giant's lost an all-pro defensive end before the first snap of the first game and lost a second team all-pro linebacker in the third game of the season, and of course Brandon Jacobs (RB-Behemoth and fast) was hurt what - 3 games ago?) - GREAT teams suck it up and figure a way to win; the Cowboys have, the Giants haven't.

711 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:08:30am

re: #681 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Well, that's your problem right there. No proper MOS's. Before long the whole Navy will be doing police calls in Texas with the Army doctors...


There is a reason they closed WRAMC and kept Bethesda open. Superior medical care and medical personnel.
The Armed forces medical school (USUHS) is located at Bethesda.
The Armed forces Radio Biological Research Institute is located at Bethesda.
Cuttnng edge medical research that is saving lives in Afghanistan and Iraq came out of Navy Medical Research Institue.
Navy medicine does undersea medicine, aerospace and aviation medicine and solid medical research. No other arm of Military medicine that is as comprehensive or operates in as diverse situations.
Navy Medicine leads the way.
Bethesda is today and since WWII has been the Mecca of military medicine.
Read Secretary Forrestalls address to the Nation about Navy Medicine and Navy Hospital Corpsmen after WWII.
The consistent excellence is the same reason why Bethesda has always been the President's hospital.

712 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:08:37am

re: #706 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

In the infantry, you'd be looking at a guy with a face like a used catcher's glove who'd spit his tobacco juice next to your feet and tell you to get the f*ck out of his AO.

I had a guy like that while I was in the Artillery in Vietnam, and a Chef of Firing battery who was just as bad.

713 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:09:08am

OOH, football, my Pats kicked ass last night, thank you very much!

714 iceman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:09:18am

re: #631 MandyManners

I use delicious and love it

[Link: delicious.com...]

715 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:09:25am

re: #684 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'll bow to you guys, only the Navy could convince men that chipping paint is an adventure.


Better than painting rocks in the sun and pretending that it is useful work.

716 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:10:13am

re: #708 MandyManners

You're too good to me!

{MM}

Like a visual testosterone sorbet!

LOL

717 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:10:30am

re: #706 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) ROTFLMAO - good morning LT - how are you this morning?

718 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:10:38am

re: #701 MandyManners

Oh, duh. I can be a block-head

The correct response is, "Oh shit I'm a butterhead".

719 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:10:57am

re: #694 kcladderman

Yea they told me it was an adventure after my 20th 16 hour workday on the flight deck I was thinking This feels like a job.


I was on Ike... which flat top were you on?

Were you a yellow shirt, grape, red shirt or green shirt?

720 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:11:06am

re: #713 CapeCoddah

OOH, football, my Pats kicked ass last night, thank you very much!

...yeah against the Raiders. That rates right up there with the ProvinceTown Queens for competition.

721 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:11:19am

re: #712 Dustyvet

I had a guy like that while I was in the Artillery in Vietnam, and a Chef of Firing battery who was just as bad.

Is it me or are those guys some kind of zombie who has been a 1st Sergeant since the Civil War.

The first sgt I had as a private in the battalion seemed to be old enough to have climbed the rocks at Point du Hoc.

722 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:11:49am

re: #715 shanec99

Better than painting rocks in the sun and pretending that it is useful work.

But it is useful work... :-)

723 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:11:54am

re: #691 WriterMom

Gun thread again..GA.

Mandy-got any more firemen?

How about this one?

Or, this one?

But, if you want some oblique, ya' can't go wrong with him.

724 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:12:15am

re: #720 smokefire

...yeah against the Raiders. That rates right up there with the ProvinceTown Queens for competition.

Smartass. LOL, we gotta take it where we can get it. I think those hard ass dolphins are next up, either them or the Jets.

725 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:12:21am

DANG! IT'S HOT IN HERE.

726 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:12:21am

re: #718 Occasional Reader

That keeps bringing teh funny! LOLOLOL.

727 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:12:36am

re: #717 realwest

ROTFLMAO - good morning LT - how are you this morning?

Sick as a dog... glad to have LGF as a distraction.

728 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:12:42am

re: #703 Walter L. Newton

We ain't far off of that. -16 last night, and a balmy -8 right now. Supposed to peak at -5 today.

729 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:13:08am

re: #707 Occasional Reader


I don't remember all the math-but seem to remember speed of sound is measured in feet per second;speed of light is somewhere in the mega miles per second...but then I am getting older...Cheers.

730 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:13:20am

re: #723 MandyManners

Some of them are a little primitive metaphor-wise.

731 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:13:28am

re: #714 iceman

I use delicious and love it

[Link: delicious.com...]

Daganabit. You said "delicious" and I was thinking "fireman". What a let-down.

732 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:13:34am

re: #727 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Sick as a dog... glad to have LGF as a distraction.

Yuk, me too. This stinks, I think, I cannot smell anything

733 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:13:41am

re: #710 realwest

Injuries have nearly ruined the season for the Cowboys?
Hell the Giant's lost an all-pro defensive end before the first snap of the first game and lost a second team all-pro linebacker in the third game of the season, and of course Brandon Jacobs (RB-Behemoth and fast) was hurt what - 3 games ago?) - GREAT teams suck it up and figure a way to win; the Cowboys have, the Giants haven't.

shit I meant Jacobson not Peterson...my bad...it's true the CBs have played well with their rookies etc but they have not been mentally as tough as the Gints til now...one glaring difference between Romo and Manning is that when you repeatedly hassle Manning he gets worse...he moves around but doesnt keep looking upfield...he just doesnt have that touch for moving around like Romo does...I digress amigo

734 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:14:06am

re: #722 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

But it is useful work... :-)


Useful for what?
Getting rid of a supply Sergeant's mistake in making out a requisition for too much paint?

735 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:14:08am
736 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:14:13am

re: #715 shanec99

Better than painting rocks in the sun and pretending that it is useful work.

We never painted rocks, we moved them over there, then over there, then over there, then back to the starting point.

737 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:14:14am

re: #730 WriterMom

Some of them are a little primitive metaphor-wise.

I lahks 'em primitive. The more, the better.

738 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:14:17am

re: #712 Dustyvet

King of Battle, hoo-wah!
One of my friends sons is now at Ft. Silly becoming a gun bunny.

739 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:14:54am

re: #719 shanec99

I was on Ike... which flat top were you on?

Were you a yellow shirt, grape, red shirt or green shirt?

Yellow Shirt on the Independence.

740 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:15:27am

re: #733 albusteve

JACOBS!...good grief

741 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:15:29am

re: #718 Occasional Reader

The correct response is, "Oh shit I'm a butterhead".

Nipple Song! Something for the gentlemen.

742 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:16:06am

re: #734 shanec99

Useful for what?
Getting rid of a supply Sergeant's mistake in making out a requisition for too much paint?

Obviously, the perfection of the morning sun glinting off a row of bright white rocks lined up as a walkway. Brings joy to my shriveled black heart.

743 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:16:08am

re: #721 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Is it me or are those guys some kind of zombie who has been a 1st Sergeant since the Civil War.

The first sgt I had as a private in the battalion seemed to be old enough to have climbed the rocks at Point du Hoc.

Or was a private under Hannabel...:)

744 vxbush  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:16:14am
745 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:17:21am

re: #736 Dustyvet

We never painted rocks, we moved them over there, then over there, then over there, then back to the starting point.

Sand. Lots of sand. Into green plastic bags that seemed like they were made inside out. That's work to hate.

746 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:17:53am
747 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:17:59am

re: #711 shanec99

I had bone surgery to replace a portion of my right femur in 1970 after returning from SE Asia - in a Naval Hospital. The stem portion of the hip socket to be precise. My Doctor could have played football for any NFL team. Besides a modest amount of bone spurring that has occurred over time, I've had no issues with my leg. Hip replacement was cutting edge back them. I was laid up for almost a year, but hey! I can still walk.

748 phoenixgirl  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:18:31am

well mccain didn't throw palin under the bus but he put her in front of it. what an ass...how "maverick" of him. palin can't count on his support in 2012...well she couldn't count on it in 2008 either! i wonder when we can just call him insane.

749 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:18:42am

Bush Excluded by Latin Summit Favoring China, Russia, Iran Ties

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

I'd say it's time for a little pay back. But we all know that ain't never gonna happen.

750 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:18:45am

re: #739 kcladderman

Yellow Shirt on the Independence.


Were you at Yokosuka?

I was up at Camp Fuji with the Marines ... good lord, I remember a fight in Roppongi one night between Sailors on the Indy and those of us (USMC unit) assigned to Camp Fuji. (I was a HM assigned to a USMC unit up at Fuji).

We were ordered not to return to the Roppongi district...

751 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:18:52am

re: #682 smokefire

Robert Townsend, also.

He was a funny comedian. Was doing a bit about afraid his children would grow up spoiled since he had been successful...

"Thurston Howell, III voice..."Father, oh father, tell us about back when you were a n[deleted] father. Tell us about how you ate the government cheese father."

752 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:18:58am

re: #724 CapeCoddah

Wrong.
Last 2 are against the Cardinals-HOME, and the Bills-AWAY.

753 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:19:06am

re: #745 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)


re: #736 Dustyvet

We never painted rocks, we moved them over there, then over there, then over there, then back to the starting point.

Sand. Lots of sand. Into green plastic bags that seemed like they were made inside out. That's work to hate.

What, are we discussing Obama's jobs program?

754 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:19:33am

re: #739 kcladderman

Yellow Shirt on the Independence.


When I was on Ike I was always in the Flight Deck BDS.

755 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:20:00am

re: #729 Pietr

I don't remember all the math-but seem to remember speed of sound is measured in feet per second;speed of light is somewhere in the mega miles per second...but then I am getting older...Cheers.

The two are wildly different.

Speed of sound through dry air at sea level = 767 miles per hour.

Speed of light (in a vacuum) = 186,282 miles per second.

Leave it to Hollywood to just sort of... fudge the two together.

756 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:20:01am

re: #747 Cap'n DOC

I had bone surgery to replace a portion of my right femur in 1970 after returning from SE Asia - in a Naval Hospital. The stem portion of the hip socket to be precise. My Doctor could have played football for any NFL team. Besides a modest amount of bone spurring that has occurred over time, I've had no issues with my leg. Hip replacement was cutting edge back them. I was laid up for almost a year, but hey! I can still walk.

Very cool, doc. I don't hold any punches when it comes to squids, but their medical establishment is first rate.

757 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:20:25am
758 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:20:47am

re: #745 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Sand. Lots of sand. Into green plastic bags that seemed like they were made inside out. That's work to hate.


God I hated filling sand bags in Saudi Arabia during DS/DS.

759 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:20:48am

re: #753 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What, are we discussing Obama's jobs program?

No, but it will be...

760 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:21:24am

re: #755 Occasional Reader

Speed of light (in a vacuum) = 186,282 miles per second.

It's not just a good idea, it's the law.

761 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:21:53am

re: #758 shanec99

Damn, how did you know when you were finished?

762 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:21:54am

re: #752 smokefire

Wrong.
Last 2 are against the Cardinals-HOME, and the Bills-AWAY.

well, that was embarrassing, Could have sworn the news guy said last two games were jets or dolphins, I must be sicker that I thought.

763 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:21:59am

re: #750 shanec99

Were you at Yokosuka?

I was up at Camp Fuji with the Marines ... good lord, I remember a fight in Roppongi one night between Sailors on the Indy and those of us (USMC unit) assigned to Camp Fuji. (I was a HM assigned to a USMC unit up at Fuji).

We were ordered not to return to the Roppongi district...

No I got out in Feb of 85 right before she went up to Philly for SLEP. I never got to make a west pac though we did go through the Suez and over to Singapore.

764 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:22:10am

re: #721 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Yeah, but I bet that 1SGT you had could still climb the cliff at Point du Hoc!
Second week at Jungle training School, fresh out of
8th SFG's 6 week RECONDO training, and now a part of cadre at the JOTC, our 1st SGT says he's looking for someone to go running with him in the morning - being stupid as always but incredibly fit, I looked at this "old man" and said sure, Top, I'll run with you - so naturally he goes 3 miles out and 3 miles back, 90+ degrees and 90%+ humidity and I'm like still standing - leaning against a tree but still standing - and he's well "off to the showers and work!".
It's those old, tough S.O.B.'s ya gotta watch out for!

765 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:22:19am
766 invictus1  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:22:32am

re: #695 realwest

BTW - has anyone heard anything about Palin's church being set on fire - any leads, suspects, definite motives?

Do we know where Keith Olbermann was at the time?

767 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:22:44am
768 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:23:02am

re: #762 CapeCoddah

Sadly, the Pats fate may be sealed by the last game of the season between the Jets/Dolphins. Maybe he was talking about that.

769 MJ  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:23:32am

Hooray for Israel!

U.N. envoy expelled from Israel

TEL AVIV, Israel, Dec. 15 (UPI) -- Richard Falk, U.N. envoy monitoring human rights in the Palestinian territories, was expelled from Israel Monday, officials in Tel Aviv said.
Falk, who was barred from entering the country at Ben Gurion Airport on Sunday, raised Israeli anger by accusing Israel of committing a crime against humanity. He equated Israel's policies involving Palestinians in the Gaza Strip with Nazi treatment of Jews during the World War II Ho

[Link: www.upi.com...]

770 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:23:38am

re: #746 Iron Fist

Because members of the Globull Warmist religion are creating their own reality. Any resemblance between their reality and the reality of the larger world is strictly a coincidence.

In terms of teaching ID in public schools, they've substituted Gaia for God.

771 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:23:38am

re: #757 Iron Fist

I'll take the .45 Colt with the single-action infinity capacity revolver, with an infinite supply of .45 Colt. You can never have too much ammunition.

I want one of those revolvers that ejects spent shell casings (which also exist, per Hollywood... they just love the "clink clink" sound effect of shell casings hitting asphalt to do away with it, even when the character is firing a revolver. Oh, and they also make that sound hitting... grass, apparently.)

772 smokefire  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:23:45am

re: #762 CapeCoddah

well, that was embarrassing, Could have sworn the news guy said last two games were jets or dolphins, I must be sicker that I thought.

...Dr. Smokefire says...

take 2 shots of either Jack Daniels, or any single Malt Scotch, at least 3 times a day, and call me in the morning.

773 phoenixgirl  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:23:46am

re: #765 WriterMom

Good article: The Myths of Organized Labour

the organized labor, the other ponzi scheme

774 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:23:59am

re: #758 shanec99

God I hated filling sand bags in Saudi Arabia during DS/DS.

There's a thing to create a mil contract bid about: automated sand bag filler. A front-loader would drop tons of sand in one end of a trailer and the machine would load bags.

Could come in handy at disaster sites, too.

775 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:24:32am

re: #773 phoenixgirl

You are so right. A real scam.

776 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:24:36am

re: #756 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Very cool, doc. I don't hold any punches when it comes to squids, but their medical establishment is first rate.


The Navy can do most of the things the other branches do... but I would hate to see the other branches trying to drive ships or submarines... worst yet, i would hate to see an Airforce pilot attempt to land on the rocking deck of an aircraft carrier at night during a storm.

Takes real men to do what the Navy does, and yes, the Navy's medical department does lead the way.

777 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:24:40am

re: #757 Iron Fist

I'll take the .45 Colt with the single-action infinity capacity revolver, with an infinite supply of .45 Colt. You can never have too much ammunition.

Colt .45. Works every time.

778 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:25:01am

re: #765 WriterMom

Good article: The Myths of Organized Labour

I'm thanking anti-competitive union labor -- by not buying it.

If GM can purge the UAW - I will consider purchasing one of their cars.

779 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:25:02am

re: #565 WriterMom

Good morning.

Apparently, the worst Arab insult EVAH is shoes...not "Jew".

Indeed, but it's also important to note that this guy (I wont dignify with calling him a reporter) would have never had that ability or the cojones to even try such a stunt with Saddam in charge. It would have meant a death sentence to him, his family, and possibly to his entire town. He would have likely seen his family fed to plastic shredders, and then watched as he himself was fed into a plastic shredder to die an insanely horrible death.

No, he will likely face aggravated assault and not much else.

And that's as it should be.

I don't think many Americans realize the significance of that act or how that differs from what would have happened in the past. I think many Iraqis may realize this, but have to also understand that there's a real difference between free speech and violence. You can do one without the other, and this guy didn't care to bother with the distinctions.

780 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:25:07am

re: #769 MJ

Richard: FALK YOU!

781 tfc3rid  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:25:08am

Morning all... I love the indignation over SNL's porttrayal of NY Gov. David Patterson on its episode on Saturday... Evreyone is up in arms over how the Gov. was portrayed from the standpoint of him being blind... Showing a graph upside down, etc...

It doesn't seem like there was a lot of indignation at them poking 'fun' at Sarah Palin by portraying her as a redneck, hick, folksy dumb woman...

The double standard blows.

Also, how is that US Secret Service doing today? Rules of engagement?

782 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:25:13am

re: #744 vxbush
Hi {vxbush} - sure they can make a secure browser, but have been ordered NOT to! LOL!
Hope you're doing well today!

783 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:25:29am

re: #754 shanec99

When I was on Ike I was always in the Flight Deck BDS.

Well hopefully you were not to busy there. n At least nothing more than bumps and bruises the flight deck can lead to some pretty nasty injuries.

784 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:25:33am

re: #771 Occasional Reader

I want one of those revolvers that ejects spent shell casings (which also exist, per Hollywood... they just love the "clink clink" sound effect of shell casings hitting asphalt to do away with it, even when the character is firing a revolver. Oh, and they also make that sound hitting... grass, apparently.)

And, tires burn rubber and squeal on gravel and dirt!

785 pingjockey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:25:51am

Sheesh! Go to reply to RW, 5 minutes later 50 more comments!
Going to work now. BTW, RW is a stand up guy. Later folks, seeya this afternoon!

786 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:26:10am

re: #760 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's not just a good idea, it's the law.

I once had a (nominally) well-educated person tell me that he was pretty sure the speed of sound was "about a million miles per hour". So I guess the Concorde did the NYC -Paris run in about twenty seconds! No wonder they charged so much.

787 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:26:12am

re: #778 FrogMarch

I agree. Our cars are both Japanese. I wouldn't buy one of those turdy POS cars-why should I bail them out? Infuriating.

788 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:26:12am

re: #761 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Damn, how did you know when you were finished?


When I was too pissed off and decided that it was time to get into the chow line before the Marines ate all of the chow.

789 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:27:01am

re: #748 phoenixgirl
" i wonder when we can just call him insane terminally stupid." there, fixed that for you!

790 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:27:09am

re: #758 shanec99

God I hated filling sand bags in Saudi Arabia during DS/DS.

What's the point? Wouldn't have been easier to just throw an infield tarp over the place & call it a day?

791 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:27:48am

re: #771 Occasional Reader

they just love the "clink clink" sound effect of shell casings hitting asphalt too much to do away with it

PIMF

792 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:27:59am

re: #779 lawhawk

Of course-I agree. This guy got his 15 minutes of fame this way, and will likely be on a speaking tour in Hollywood, and a guest poster at the Daily Kos shortly. This is about impulse control. This guy had none, and not much has been required of the people living Muslim countries.

793 maddogg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:28:16am

re: #683 Occasional Reader

"Everybody"? I'm talking Hollywood here! The same industry that tried to convince viewers of the existence of gun whose bullets travel "almost at the speed of light" (Eraser, with Arnie S.).

Hollywood would have you believe you can use a silencer on a full auto weapon also. But it will burn most designs out in seconds at full auto, unless there are new designs out that can stand up to the heat and blast for hundreds of rounds.

794 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:28:30am

re: #774 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

There's a thing to create a mil contract bid about: automated sand bag filler. A front-loader would drop tons of sand in one end of a trailer and the machine would load bags.

Could come in handy at disaster sites, too.

That would be a God send. I hated doing that... and then some damned fool First Class or Staff Sergeant would come and tell us that we had to preiodically rotate the damned things.
Used to pyss me off to no end.
You wouldnt belileve the things I used to mutter under my breath.

795 vxbush  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:28:39am

re: #782 realwest

Hi {vxbush} - sure they can make a secure browser, but have been ordered NOT to! LOL!
Hope you're doing well today!

I guess I'm okay, all things considered. I made it in to work today despite icy patches on the roads. I've got a humidifier running in my office so I can actually breathe and not gag on the dry air. I was able to bring my lunch today, and I have a bit of energy to get work done (although I'm not sure how long that will last).

So yeah, things are good. Now, if I could just get my daughter home safely in time for Christmas, I'll feel much, much better.

796 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:28:59am

re: #791 Occasional Reader

PIMF

Same sound when casings hitting carpet...:)

797 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:29:15am

re: #764 realwest

Yeah, but I bet that 1SGT you had could still climb the cliff at Point du Hoc!
Second week at Jungle training School, fresh out of
8th SFG's 6 week RECONDO training, and now a part of cadre at the JOTC, our 1st SGT says he's looking for someone to go running with him in the morning - being stupid as always but incredibly fit, I looked at this "old man" and said sure, Top, I'll run with you - so naturally he goes 3 miles out and 3 miles back, 90+ degrees and 90%+ humidity and I'm like still standing - leaning against a tree but still standing - and he's well "off to the showers and work!".
It's those old, tough S.O.B.'s ya gotta watch out for!

That guy (1SG, B/2/75 Rngr, 79+), you bet he could. Tough old SOB.

We were riddled with Nam SF guys back then, my Pl Sgt and Co Cdr were both from the teams, Not sure about the BC's background, but I'm sure he was high speed too. The BC later died in a night C-130 landing using NVGs, they named a barracks after him at Camp Rudder in Florida.

798 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:29:20am

re: #784 MandyManners

And, tires burn rubber and squeal on gravel and dirt!

This car had an independent rear suspension. Now, in the '60's, there were only two other cars made in America that had positraction, and independent rear suspension, and enough power to make these marks. One was the Corvette, which could never be confused with the Buick Skylark. The other had the same body length, height, width, weight, wheel base, and wheel track as the '64 Skylark, and that was the 1963 Pontiac Tempest.


[chewing gum, checking fingernails]

799 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:30:00am

re: #768 Lincolntf

Sadly, the Pats fate may be sealed by the last game of the season between the Jets/Dolphins. Maybe he was talking about that.

THANK YOU! That must be what they were saying. I knew I heard that combo somewhere.

800 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:30:15am

re: #783 kcladderman

Well hopefully you were not to busy there. n At least nothing more than bumps and bruises the flight deck can lead to some pretty nasty injuries.

Was on board when the recovered some bodies from an inflight collision. Was pretty nasty... we couldnt do anything.

801 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:30:17am

re: #798 Occasional Reader

Strangest Oscar ever.

802 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:30:26am

re: #792 WriterMom

Of course-I agree. This guy got his 15 minutes of fame this way, and will likely be on a speaking tour in Hollywood, and a guest poster at the Daily Kos shortly. This is about impulse control. This guy had none, and not much has been required of the people living Muslim countries.

Achmed the Plumber

803 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:30:28am

Just saw Phil Hartman in a cameo. Sigh.

804 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:30:36am

re: #758 shanec99

God I hated filling sand bags in Saudi Arabia during DS/DS.

My two least favorite jobs of all time (in the civvie world):

1) Digging post holes

2) Scraping old bottom paint off boats

805 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:30:48am

re: #776 shanec99

Don't get me started about the USAF... I can't recall how many times sitting in some stinking swamp freezing my ass off I wished beyond wishing I had joined the frigg'in air force.

Flare to land, squat to pee.

806 maddogg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:30:53am

And don't forget that in Hollywood, lead and copper bullets cause sparking on cement, asphalt, and steel when it hits them.

807 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:30:53am

re: #784 MandyManners

And, tires burn rubber and squeal on gravel and dirt!


Zen and the art of foley. Axel would know what to do.

808 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:30:59am

Anti-Christmas moron of the day: Ban Rudolph!

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

I just want to say as a Jew, this shit makes me sick. I enjoy X-mas alot. I am sure this wacko woman voted for Obama also.

809 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:31:07am

re: #786 Occasional Reader

There is a very interesting article today in the National Post about how supposedly 'educated' people get sucked into conspiracy theories-particularly surrounding 9/11. It was an excerpt from a new book. Let me see if I can find it. Very interesting peek into the psychology-not that this stuff is new, but it was well-written.

810 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:31:09am

re: #798 Occasional Reader

This car had an independent rear suspension. Now, in the '60's, there were only two other cars made in America that had positraction, and independent rear suspension, and enough power to make these marks. One was the Corvette, which could never be confused with the Buick Skylark. The other had the same body length, height, width, weight, wheel base, and wheel track as the '64 Skylark, and that was the 1963 Pontiac Tempest.


[chewing gum, checking fingernails]

Very nice.

811 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:31:25am

re: #787 WriterMom

I agree. Our cars are both Japanese. I wouldn't buy one of those turdy POS cars-why should I bail them out? Infuriating.

And the democrat talking point is:

On ABC's "This Week" this morning, Paul Krugman repeats the left talking point that Senator Bob Corker led the opposition to the auto bailout because he's the "Senator from Nissan." Nissan has two plants in Tennessee, Krugman noted. Left unsaid is that General Motors — the company leading the push for a bailout — has a plant in Tennessee too. [Also unsaid during the discussion was that, with ten Republicans on-side, Senate Democrats had the votes to push the GM bailout through.]

The democrats have to change the subject and twist the truth in order to manipulate the masses. It's disgusting. The truth is that Toyota is profitable because the company isn't handcuffed by crappy inefficient UNION LABOR.

812 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:31:48am

re: #801 Lincolntf

Strangest Oscar ever.

I thought it was well deserved. Great role.

813 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:32:19am

re: #811 FrogMarch

(note - not the workers are not crappy - the UNION work model is)

814 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:32:24am

re: #798 Occasional Reader

This car had an independent rear suspension. Now, in the '60's, there were only two other cars made in America that had positraction, and independent rear suspension, and enough power to make these marks. One was the Corvette, which could never be confused with the Buick Skylark. The other had the same body length, height, width, weight, wheel base, and wheel track as the '64 Skylark, and that was the 1963 Pontiac Tempest.


[chewing gum, checking fingernails]

ROFLMAO!

815 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:32:40am

re: #772 smokefire

...Dr. Smokefire says...

take 2 shots of either Jack Daniels, or any single Malt Scotch, at least 3 times a day, and call me in the morning.

That will kill me. I have no tolerance for alcohol. Half a beer, and I am flat on my face. Never liked the taste of alcohol, so I rarely drink it. If this nasty cold holds on much longer, though, I may consider taking it up and making up for lost time.

816 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:33:11am

re: #749 Nevergiveup
Morning! Well I'll start getting concerned IF and when Russia, China and Iran can actually like, ya know, help Latin America. Right now Russia and Iran are going broke cause of the cost of oil and neither one is a first rate military power - hell, Russia's just barely hanging on to being a second rate (non-nuke) military power by it's fingernails, China - again non-nuke - would be a first rate military power but lacks the ability to project force ANYWHERE except by land and even there, long supply lines would doom it and btw, it's economy is in the tank, too.
One can never predict what 4 years of Obama will bring, but if he allows nuclear weapons/Missiles into Latin America from any other nations, he could be facing impeachment - even the Dem's aren't stupid enough to want to allow that to happen.

817 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:33:22am

re: #771 Occasional Reader

I want one of those revolvers that ejects spent shell casings (which also exist, per Hollywood... they just love the "clink clink" sound effect of shell casings hitting asphalt to do away with it, even when the character is firing a revolver. Oh, and they also make that sound hitting... grass, apparently.)

Do you hear that sound Mr. Anderson?

818 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:33:23am

re: #806 maddogg

And don't forget that in Hollywood, lead and copper bullets cause sparking on cement, asphalt, and steel when it hits them.

And when a 9mm pistol round hits a 250 pound man, it knocks him flying back 7 or 8 feet. (If he's a bad guy)

819 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:33:24am

re: #807 lawhawk

Zen and the art of foley. Axel would know what to do.

Herpes Simplex 9?

820 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:33:25am

re: #812 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't mind that she got it, it just struck me as a very odd choice, considering that the Academy usually takes itself waa-aay too seriously.

821 saberry0530  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:33:25am

re: #798 Occasional Reader

This car had an independent rear suspension. Now, in the '60's, there were only two other cars made in America that had positraction, and independent rear suspension, and enough power to make these marks. One was the Corvette, which could never be confused with the Buick Skylark. The other had the same body length, height, width, weight, wheel base, and wheel track as the '64 Skylark, and that was the 1963 Pontiac Tempest.


[chewing gum, checking fingernails]

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE YUTES!

822 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:33:36am

re: #815 CapeCoddah

That will kill me. I have no tolerance for alcohol. Half a beer, and I am flat on my face. Never liked the taste of alcohol, so I rarely drink it. If this nasty cold holds on much longer, though, I may consider taking it up and making up for lost time.

Would that qualify you as a cheap date then?

823 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:33:38am
824 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:33:42am

re: #805 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Don't get me started about the USAF... I can't recall how many times sitting in some stinking swamp freezing my ass off I wished beyond wishing I had joined the frigg'in air force.

Flare to land, squat to pee.


Good lord... look the 8404 nec that I carry means I am a Corpsman who is trained for work with the USMC. Good Lord... don't let me start cussing about the USAF and their damned golf courses and clubs.

825 phoenixgirl  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:34:12am

re: #565 WriterMom

Good morning.

Apparently, the worst Arab insult EVAH is shoes...not "Jew".


lol, love this caption under the picture:

"Bush's image has been associated with shoes across the Arab world"

826 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:34:20am

BTW - I know we've all seen the video of two shoes being thrown at President Bush in Iraq, but have we discussed WHERE THE HELL WAS THE SECRET SERVICE after the first shoe, much less the second one?

827 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:34:30am
828 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:34:31am

re: #815 CapeCoddah

That will kill me. I have no tolerance for alcohol. Half a beer, and I am flat on my face. Never liked the taste of alcohol, so I rarely drink it. If this nasty cold holds on much longer, though, I may consider taking it up and making up for lost time.

Just don't forget that booze dehyrdrates so be sure to drink extra water.

829 vxbush  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:34:41am

re: #811 FrogMarch

The democrats have to change the subject and twist the truth in order to manipulate the masses. It's disgusting. The truth is that Toyota is profitable because the company isn't handcuffed by crappy inefficient UNION LABOR.

And there's a Toyota plant outside my home town. When I buy Toyota, I'm supported my friends and family!

/spit on GM

830 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:35:00am

re: #822 Nevergiveup

Would that qualify you as a cheap date then?

OH, big time. Two cokes and I'm yours!

831 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:35:10am

re: #818 Occasional Reader

And when a 9mm pistol round hits a 250 pound man, it knocks him flying back 7 or 8 feet. (If he's a bad guy)

Preferably through a plate-glass window.

832 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:35:21am

re: #812 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I thought it was well deserved. Great role.

The last time an Oscar was awarded for a comedic role. I've always felt that Kathy Bates should have gotten a nod for her role in The Waterboy.

833 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:35:44am

re: #826 realwest

BTW - I know we've all seen the video of two shoes being thrown at President Bush in Iraq, but have we discussed WHERE THE HELL WAS THE SECRET SERVICE after the first shoe, much less the second one?

I also want to know more about who the journalist was. I will not be surprised if he turns out to be pro-islamist and/or pro-Baathist.

834 phoenixgirl  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:35:46am

i guess they had such tight security that they knew it wasn't an explosive device. i wish the President had picked the shoes up and hurled them back.

835 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:35:56am

re: #830 CapeCoddah

LOL! I'm a little more pricey-a nice tray of sushi and sashimi would do the trick...

836 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:36:04am

re: #820 Lincolntf

Oh. Wasn't sure. Who else was running that year? Huh. BRB

837 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:36:20am

re: #833 Occasional Reader

I will not be surprised if he turns out to be pro-islamist and/or pro-Baathist.

NO WAY!

838 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:36:25am

re: #823 Iron Fist

I agree. Globull Warming is a religious faith pretending to be science. It has its own Prophet (Al Gorecle), its own dogma (everything is evidence of globull warming), and even its own heretics. People who don't buy into their religion lockstep are branded "deniers" (apostate), and can suffer in terms of employment.

They haven't started burning heretics at the stake, yet. We'll see how far the Obamessiah is willing in order to promote globull warming to the Status of Official Religion of the State. I doubt even he will actually burn heretics. I think it likely that he will force heretics into paying the globull warming equivilant of "jizya" through "carbon taxes".

That is sure to help the economy. Help it collapse, that is.

They won't burn us. Too much carbon release.

839 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:36:36am

re: #826 realwest

It's the second one that really makes me wonder. I suppose the first may have been completely unavoidable, but where was the "swarm" that should (?) have commenced immediately?
I'm not saying the Sec. Svc. sucks or anything, but I was not impressed with the reaction time.

840 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:36:38am

re: #825 phoenixgirl

Is this thread going shoe?

841 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:36:59am

re: #835 WriterMom

LOL! I'm a little more pricey-a nice tray of sushi and sashimi would do the trick...

I just can't eat anything, that just might bite back...:)

842 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:37:12am

re: #830 CapeCoddah

OH, big time. Two cokes and I'm yours!


Hey, here in Africa... a coke is pretty expensive... you need two cokes... you are not a cheap date.
Trust me. You would cost me about 2,000 Frans (specific for the nation) just for drinks.

843 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:37:26am

re: #823 Iron Fist

Good analogy.

844 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:37:27am

re: #833 Occasional Reader

I also want to know more about who the journalist was. I will not be surprised if he turns out to be pro-islamist and/or pro-Baathist.

From the footage I've seen, he doesn't look like he's in favor of baths.

845 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:37:32am

re: #800 shanec99

Was on board when the recovered some bodies from an inflight collision. Was pretty nasty... we couldnt do anything.

We had a blue shirt survive a prop to the head. One in a bizillion chance an E2 was spotted on the cat and for some reason he tried to walk between the prop and the plane after taking out the chalks . His nic was jug head before the incident it seemed an even better nic after.

846 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:37:52am

re: #841 Dustyvet

Sashimi is already dead, Jim.

847 maddogg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:38:20am

re: #818 Occasional Reader

And when a 9mm pistol round hits a 250 pound man, it knocks him flying back 7 or 8 feet. (If he's a bad guy)

Hollywood uses an alternative set of physical laws from the rest of us. I believe that if the bullets knocked the bad buy backwards 8-10 feet, Mr. Newton would expect the shooter would move back the same amount if he was of similar mass.

848 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:38:28am

re: #832 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The last time an Oscar was awarded for a comedic role. I've always felt that Kathy Bates should have gotten a nod for her role in The Waterboy.

I lked her in Fried Green Tomatoes. That scene in the parking lot was priceless.

849 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:38:55am

re: #836 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh. Wasn't sure. Who else was running that year? Huh. BRB

65th Annual Oscars...


Best Actress in a Supporting Role

My Cousin Vinny - Marisa Tomei

* Damage - Miranda Richardson
* Enchanted April - Joan Plowright
* Howards End - Vanessa Redgrave
* Husbands and Wives - Judy Davis

850 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:39:09am

re: #846 WriterMom

Oh otays...:) Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor not a fisherman...

851 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:39:21am

re: #829 vxbush

And there's a Toyota plant outside my home town. When I buy Toyota, I'm supported my friends and family!

/spit on GM

The democrats want to level the playing field by forcing Toyota to go UNION. How disgusting is that? If it happens, Toyota can kiss its profitability goodbye. (thanks genius democrats)

Somehow the democrats think they can take over GM and save the UAW.
(which is really just pay-to-play campaign pay back) Yeah - the idiots in congress who know nothing about running a business, are going to save GM. GM would be wise to go through chapter 11.

852 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:39:27am

re: #848 MandyManners

I liked her in "Roger & Me", before she let her hair grow out.

853 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:39:39am

re: #828 MandyManners

Just don't forget that booze dehyrdrates so be sure to drink extra water.

Will do. currently drowning in tea and honey.

854 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:39:41am
855 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:39:46am

re: #850 Dustyvet

:)

856 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:40:10am

re: #846 WriterMom

re: #841 Dustyvet

Sashimi is already dead, Jim.

Yes, I think Dusty is thinking of Klingon Qagh.

857 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:40:14am

re: #845 kcladderman

We had a blue shirt survive a prop to the head. One in a bizillion chance an E2 was spotted on the cat and for some reason he tried to walk between the prop and the plane after taking out the chalks . His nic was jug head before the incident it seemed an even better nic after.


On my last ship there was a SM2 whom we used to call Jug Haid... the dude was about as bright as a burnt out bulb... I don't know if he was a brown she before he bacame a black shoe... but he might be the same guy. Jug Haid would do the most dangerous things, I used to hold my breath when I saw him topside.

858 Learned Mother of Zion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:40:48am

re: #769 MJ

Hooray for Israel!

U.N. envoy expelled from Israel

TEL AVIV, Israel, Dec. 15 (UPI) -- Richard Falk, U.N. envoy monitoring human rights in the Palestinian territories, was expelled from Israel Monday, officials in Tel Aviv said.
Falk, who was barred from entering the country at Ben Gurion Airport on Sunday, raised Israeli anger by accusing Israel of committing a crime against humanity. He equated Israel's policies involving Palestinians in the Gaza Strip with Nazi treatment of Jews during the World War II Ho

[Link: www.upi.com...]

Does this asshole think that Jews in Auschwitz kidnapped a Wehrmacht soldier and held him hostage for years? That Jews in Auschwitz rode on ferris wheels? That they launched rockets into random German villages? That they had mountains of candy, and herds of sheep and cows to slaughter and bathe in the blood?

How many kinds of an asshole is Richard Falk?

859 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:40:57am

re: #854 Iron Fist

Don't forget the anti-vehicle aspects of Hollywood guns. When a car takes more than a few rounds, it explodes in a totally awesome fireball. That's better than .50 APIT can do.

It's the cars? I thought that it was the evil guns did that to cars.

860 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:41:21am

re: #849 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Howard's End, Vanessa Redgrave. Now that sounds like an Oscar (I never even saw the movie but I believe it was a schmaltzy period piece.)

861 phoenixgirl  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:41:30am

ugh has anyone watched whale wars? my only hope is they can use the footage to throw the crew of the "shepherd" in jail.

862 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:41:31am

re: #847 maddogg

Hollywood uses an alternative set of physical laws from the rest of us. I believe that if the bullets knocked the bad buy backwards 8-10 feet, Mr. Newton would expect the shooter would move back the same amount if he was of similar mass.

last night on History Ch Alexanders light infantry hurled rocks from slings knocking Darius' dismounted calvalry 6 feet in the air and over backwards...it goes way back...

863 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:41:32am

re: #848 MandyManners

I lked her in Fried Green Tomatoes. That scene in the parking lot was priceless.

I'm older and I have more insurance.

864 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:41:49am

re: #856 Occasional Reader

UCH. Yes-it appears so.

865 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:41:53am

re: #835 WriterMom

LOL! I'm a little more pricey-a nice tray of sushi and sashimi would do the trick...

LOL, ewww, cannot do raw fish anymore than beer. Although the hibachi shrimp has distinct possibilities.

866 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:42:07am

re: #781 tfc3rid
Fox and Friends was all over it this AM-and said the same as you.

867 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:42:32am

re: #858 Alouette

He's a reincarnated Nazi, serving other reincarnated Nazis.

868 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:42:33am

re: #854 Iron Fist

Don't forget the anti-vehicle aspects of Hollywood guns. When a car takes more than a few rounds,

One of the better scenes in an otherwise dumb movie, The Last Action Hero: Arnie's Hollywood action hero character, after being transported to the real world, fires his pistol at a fleeing villain's car, and is baffled when all it does is punch a few holes in sheet metal.

869 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:42:41am
870 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:42:50am

re: #848 MandyManners

I lked her in Fried Green Tomatoes. That scene in the parking lot was priceless.

Here is a great scene in a driveway

(My favorite scene from the movie. Mandy, this scene is why I think of Hepburn sometimes when you post)

871 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:42:53am

re: #842 shanec99

Hey, here in Africa... a coke is pretty expensive... you need two cokes... you are not a cheap date.
Trust me. You would cost me about 2,000 Frans (specific for the nation) just for drinks.

lol, Im worth it!

872 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:43:31am

re: #858 Alouette

How many kinds of an asshole is Richard Falk?

This gets back to the "speed of light" discussion, above. Similar numbers involved.

873 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:43:36am

re: #860 Lincolntf

Howard's End, Vanessa Redgrave. Now that sounds like an Oscar (I never even saw the movie but I believe it was a schmaltzy period piece.)

I thought that Howard's End sounded like the kind of movie that Dirk would star in.

874 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:44:37am

re: #842 shanec99

Hey, here in Africa... a coke is pretty expensive

Well, of course it is; I mean, Coke cures AIDS, naturally it's expensive.

/

875 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:44:40am

re: #871 CapeCoddah

lol, Im worth it!

OK
If you say so.

But here in East Africa, you don't buy a girl a coke unless she is special.

876 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:44:57am

re: #861 phoenixgirl

ugh has anyone watched whale wars? my only hope is they can use the footage to throw the crew of the "shepherd" in jail.

I've seen commercials & am rooting for the whalers.

877 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:45:28am

re: #873 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I thought that Howard's End sounded like the kind of movie that Dirk would star in.

Brown Chicken. Brown Cow.

878 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:45:38am

re: #873 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I thought that Howard's End sounded like the kind of movie that Dirk would star in.

I have no doubt whatsoever there was a pr0n version done.

In fact, it's right there on the shelf, next to Sex Trek: The Next Penetration.

880 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:46:04am

re: #874 Occasional Reader

Well, of course it is; I mean, Coke cures AIDS, naturally it's expensive.

/


You heard that too huh... gosh the ignorance.

The most painful one i read is that for a man to be cured of AIDS he has to have unprotected sex with a virgin.

881 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:46:27am

re: #873 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Heh!

882 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:46:59am

re: #875 shanec99

Wow. Such quaint local customs...

883 vxbush  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:47:13am

re: #851 FrogMarch

The democrats want to level the playing field by forcing Toyota to go UNION. How disgusting is that? If it happens, Toyota can kiss its profitability goodbye. (thanks genius democrats)

Somehow the democrats think they can take over GM and save the UAW.
(which is really just pay-to-play campaign pay back) Yeah - the idiots in congress who know nothing about running a business, are going to save GM. GM would be wise to go through chapter 11.

Don't expect anything smart out of Washington. The number of active brain cells in the entire Congress and House can be counted on one hand.

884 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:47:47am

re: #879 Alouette

Is 'may they soon please die' deletable?

885 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:48:08am

re: #875 shanec99

OK
If you say so.

But here in East Africa, you don't buy a girl a coke unless she is special.

Well, save your pennies, then, hubby just got back from food shopping, he bought me a 12 pack. He wins! (even if he will not come near me with a 10 foot pole, right now.)

886 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:48:28am

re: #884 WriterMom

Is 'may they soon please die' deletable?

Well, you were very polite.

887 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:48:45am

re: #870 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here is a great scene in a driveway

(My favorite scene from the movie. Mandy, this scene is why I think of Hepburn sometimes when you post)

*smooch*

"Don't speak, Hillary. Just, go."

888 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:48:57am

Play nice lizards... off to go to try to recover.

889 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:49:39am

re: #880 shanec99

The most painful one i read is that for a man to be cured of AIDS he has to have unprotected sex with a virgin.

But first he has to buy her a Cherry Coke.

/sorry

890 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:49:41am

re: #860 Lincolntf

Howard's End, Vanessa Redgrave. Now that sounds like an Oscar (I never even saw the movie but I believe it was a schmaltzy period piece.)

Redgrave? That fucking, Commie bitch?

891 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:49:45am
892 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:49:54am

Good morning, I see a good thread here. Navy and Army finding common ground considering the Viable Alternative to Military Service, the USAF. Israel kicks out the UN provocateur, signaling an End Game may be starting.

893 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:50:01am

re: #878 Occasional Reader

I have no doubt whatsoever there was a pr0n version done.

In fact, it's right there on the shelf, next to Sex Trek: The Next Penetration.



A Rear & Pleasant Stranger
is one of my favorites. Right up there with Yank My Doodle, Andy.

894 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:50:07am

re: #885 CapeCoddah

Well, save your pennies, then, hubby just got back from food shopping, he bought me a 12 pack. He wins! (even if he will not come near me with a 10 foot pole, right now.)


His pole is 10 feet long... good lord. Baby you need some rest to go with that coke.

895 phoenixgirl  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:50:13am

re: #876 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I've seen commercials & am rooting for the whalers.

i watched about 10 min. last nite. the "shepherd" ship is chasing the "whaler's", they lose them and call a nearby green peace ship to ask for coordinates of the "whaler's" . green peace, hates the "shepherd" and the "shepherd" hates green peace. a girl on the "shepherd", speaking to someone on the green peace ship says, "i don't need you! the whales need you!"

896 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:50:19am

re: #885 CapeCoddah

OK-I need another coffee. I could have sworn that said something else.

897 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:50:26am

re: #833 Occasional Reader
pro-islamist and/or pro-Baathist.? I'd be SHOCKED if that were true! Shoulda shot the s.o.b. for attacking the President of the United States of America - he blame the US for the sectarian inflicted violence in Iraq, but not one word about the hundreds of thousands of deaths under Hussein.
Yeah, my money is on Baahist.
And I still want to know what the fuck the USSS was doing - have watched that video four times now and it wasn't until a few seconds AFTER THE SECOND shoe that anyone moved to control that guy.

898 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:50:30am

re: #805 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

As an AF career "wingnut", it seems I spent 1/2 the time with the grunts in various tent cities-or following a Tank in either a jeep, or equipment truck (and not a deuce and 1/2, either). I swear the tank jockeys tried to stick us in the mud intentionally; but it was all good, for the most part.

899 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:51:09am

re: #887 MandyManners

*smooch*

"Don't speak, Hillary. Just, go."

Bill Clinton's favorite line of any movie.

900 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:51:10am

re: #887 MandyManners

Ever notice how much the actress who played "Hillary" looks like Louise Fletcher (Nurse Ratched).

901 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:51:12am

re: #889 Occasional Reader

But first he has to buy her a Cherry Coke.

/sorry

That's bad!

902 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:51:21am

re: #880 shanec99

That's generally a South African myth. IIRC it's been well documented and it took a massive effort to get anyone to take a public stand against it in the villages/shanties.

903 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:51:33am
904 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:51:37am
905 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:51:44am

re: #861 phoenixgirl

ugh has anyone watched whale wars? my only hope is they can use the footage to throw the crew of the "shepherd" in jail.

It's essentially piracy. What differentiates the "Whale War" crew from the Somali pirates?

Very little, IMHO.

If you don't like the whaling, you don't use piracy to achieve your goal.

906 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:51:51am

From the BBC news:

Officials at the Iraqi-owned TV station, al-Baghdadiya, called for the release of their journalist, saying he was exercising freedom of expression.

Who gave you that freedom? Jackass.

907 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:52:02am

re: #894 shanec99

His pole is 10 feet long... good lord. Baby you need some rest to go with that coke.

Har Har.

908 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:52:18am

re: #851 FrogMarch

The democrats want to level the playing field by forcing Toyota to go UNION.

Two words: Harrison Bergeron.

909 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:53:03am

re: #896 WriterMom

OK-I need another coffee. I could have sworn that said something else.

You certainly do need another coffee, such a dirty mind!

910 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:53:19am

re: #847 maddogg
LOL! Or in "Last Man Standing" when Bruce Willis' character shoots a dude about eleventy million times and knock him THROUGH a door and about fifty feet into the street!
Still a good action flick, though!

911 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:53:23am

re: #883 vxbush

Don't expect anything smart out of Washington. The number of active brain cells in the entire Congress and House can be counted on one hand.

Indeed. The stupidity level is going up when the "new" congress takes over.
and in worse news - It looks like Bush is going to throw the big 3 a life line. Bad idea.

912 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:53:31am

re: #903 ploome hineni

The pathological Jew-hatred is an excellent bond for them. It crosses all national and ideological boundaries.

913 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:54:03am
914 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:54:14am

re: #906 NYCHardhat

From the BBC news:

Officials at the Iraqi-owned TV station, al-Baghdadiya, called for the release of their journalist, saying he was exercising freedom of expression.

Who gave you that freedom? Jackass.

Assaulting someone is "freedom of expression"?! Morons.

915 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:54:17am

re: #896 WriterMom

OK-I need another coffee. I could have sworn that said something else.

They must be damned acrobats... and with a 12 pack of coke and she says that all she needs is 2 cokes and she is all yours for the night.

I don't know what they have planned, but it might be athlethic and could make the neighbors jealous.

916 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:55:02am
917 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:55:31am

re: #894 shanec99

Truly imaginative and disgusting. Upding for that (a 10 foot upding).

918 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:55:36am

re: #902 WriterMom

That's generally a South African myth. IIRC it's been well documented and it took a massive effort to get anyone to take a public stand against it in the villages/shanties.


I know... it is so sad... many things are changing in South Africa regarding the fight against AIDS since they got the new Health Minister.

919 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:55:42am

re: #893 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


A Rear & Pleasant Stranger
is one of my favorites. Right up there with Yank My Doodle, Andy.

You'd rank those higher than The Prime of Miss Jean's Booty?

920 maddogg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:55:51am

re: #910 realwest

LOL! Or in "Last Man Standing" when Bruce Willis' character shoots a dude about eleventy million times and knock him THROUGH a door and about fifty feet into the street!
Still a good action flick, though!

I saw that movie. And yes, I did like it.

921 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:56:03am

re: #913 ploome hineni

I was getting addicted to diet coke.would have more than 3-4 a day

so I stopped drining that

just stopped

My dad is a diet pepsi addict. He drinks 3-4 2 liter bottles a day. I dont know how anyone drinks so much of one thing.

922 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:56:14am

re: #906 NYCHardhat

From the BBC news:

Officials at the Iraqi-owned TV station, al-Baghdadiya, called for the release of their journalist, saying he was exercising freedom of expression.

Who gave you that freedom? Jackass.

Freedom Isn't Free.
Time to pay up.

923 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:56:15am

17:42 Libyan group gives award to reporter who threw shoe at Bush in Baghdad (AP)

Do why still have any operational F-111's?

924 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:56:45am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Greetings from the cold (around 32) Welsh Capital, where it is at least dry!
And no gales ...!

I thought this might be of interest ...

Have a look at who the protesters are ...

925 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:56:47am
926 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:57:04am

re: #890 MandyManners

Is she a commie? Now I'm even more surprised that she didn't get the Oscar.

927 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:57:11am

re: #907 CapeCoddah

Har Har.


Are you laughing in anticipation?

928 maddogg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:57:19am

re: #913 ploome hineni

I was getting addicted to diet coke.would have more than 3-4 a day

so I stopped drining that

just stopped

Cold Turkey? Damn! :)

929 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:57:22am

re: #927 shanec99

Are you laughing in anticipation?

Always.

930 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:57:23am
931 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:58:19am

re: #925 Iron Fist

I've heard of an "eight ball", but now you are saying you can get your coke in a 12 pack? What a deal!

Yep, and there are these amazing things called 24 packs as well, not to mention the 30 packs you can find at pushers like Costco.

932 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:58:37am

re: #918 shanec99

Funny-I was just talking to someone about that last week. Although the topic is really not generally my cup of tea, I was speaking with someone who is very high up in the HIV/AIDS activism scene in South Africa. He said that Mbeki, that lunatic basically up until now has refused to 'believe' there is a link between HIV and AIDS-so it was impossible to come up with a strategy for it, prevention or treatment in SA. Now, the new Health Minister is dealing with it.

933 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:58:37am
934 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:58:50am

re: #910 realwest

LOL! Or in "Last Man Standing" when Bruce Willis' character shoots a dude about eleventy million times and knock him THROUGH a door and about fifty feet into the street!
Still a good action flick, though!

Karina Lombard. rrrAAArrr.

935 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:59:30am

re: #923 Nevergiveup

17:42 Libyan group gives award to reporter who threw shoe at Bush in Baghdad (AP)

Do why still have any operational F-111's?

No, but the Aussies do.

936 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:59:36am

re: #929 CapeCoddah

Always.


Baby girl, you are as naughty as a horny 18 year old. Good lord, you need a chastity belt.

937 gop_patriot  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:59:43am

re: #913 ploome hineni

I was getting addicted to diet coke.would have more than 3-4 a day

so I stopped drining that

just stopped

Me too, a long time ago- regular and diet cokes. I drink the occasional root beer, or sweet tea (oh Sonic, how I love thee) but treat them like a dessert or snack. Otherwise, it's water. I feel so much better.

938 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:59:44am

re: #891 Iron Fist

It depends. If NBC is doing the test, they pack the car with explosives and detonate it on impact.

Then they raise hell about "unsafe" exploding cars.

Which is why I try to get ALL of my news from NBC. they really are out to protect us, you know.

[like I really need to put the sarc label here . . .]

939 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:59:44am

re: #924 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Greetings from the cold (around 32) Welsh Capital, where it is at least dry!
And no gales ...!

I thought this might be of interest ...

Have a look at who the protesters are ...

not sure buy I'm thinking it might be time to leave the entire ME to itself...I'm no expert but whats the use?...

940 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:00:02am

Just checked Redgrave's wiki.

"Since the 1960s Redgrave has supported a range of human rights causes, including opposition to the Vietnam War, nuclear disarmament, freedom for Soviet Jews (she was awarded the Sakharov medal by Sakharov's widow, Yelena Bonner, in 1993 for her efforts), and aid for Bosnian Muslims and other victims of war. She also advocates the partition of Northern Ireland from the United Kingdom. She was a co-founding member of Artists Against Racism."

She sounds like a real gem.

941 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:00:33am

re: #930 ploome hineni

I'm sure there is something in those carbonated drinks that creates an addiction. We stopped buying them completely-we just have water and fruit juice (pure, not sugar water) and milk around the house.

942 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:00:44am

And now for something a little... different.

In keeping with the season I'll pass on something from one of my GF's friends...

To the tune of "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen"

Get packin', Rod Blagojevich
The state's in disarray
The Tribune wants you unemployed
At least by Christmas Day.
The TV pundits want your head
Could there be pay to play?
Oh, tidings of comfort and joy
Save Illinois!
Oh, tidings of comfort and joy.

Good riddance Rod Blagojevich
Your Elvis look's inane,
The Senate's mad, so's Lisa's dad.
You drive us all insane.
Our transit's broke, the state's a joke,
The Tollway's one big pain.
Oh, tidings of comfort and joy
Save Illinois!
Oh, tidings of comfort and joy.

Good luck old Rod Blagojevich
The feds have quite a place.
Fitzgerald's poked his nose around
And if he has a case,
George Ryan's moving stuff around
Creating extra space.
Oh, tidings of comfort and joy
Save Illinois!
Oh, tidings of comfort and joy.

943 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:00:49am
944 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:01:04am

re: #930 ploome hineni

I was reading about how bad thses diet soft drinks were for you

so i stopped

I keep telling him that. He is a health nut, only eats like bark and twigs. He got a little strange after he and his wife split. Wants to become a monk and wear togas.
Kind of a weird change for a carpenter/ trained chef turned prison guard.

945 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:01:17am

re: #916 ploome hineni

It's not exclusive to non-Jews. Some of our worst enemies are from within.

946 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:01:19am

re: #934 Occasional Reader
Um, linky no work!

947 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:01:44am

re: #941 WriterMom

I'm sure there is something in those carbonated drinks that creates an addiction. We stopped buying them completely-we just have water and fruit juice (pure, not sugar water) and milk around the house.

Caffeine.

948 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:02:04am

re: #921 CapeCoddah

My dad is a diet pepsi addict. He drinks 3-4 2 liter bottles a day. I dont know how anyone drinks so much of one thing.

I went to the dentist a couple of months ago and he told me to back off from drinking so much soda. I was downing 2-3 cans of Dr Pepper a day. So I quit soda cold turkey for 6 weeks, now I'm back to 2-3 cans a week. I can live with that. We all need a few vices, right? LOL

949 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:02:05am

re: #936 shanec99

Baby girl, you are as naughty as a horny 18 year old. Good lord, you need a chastity belt.

No I dont, I'm married, it's legal to be horny.

950 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:02:16am

re: #926 Lincolntf

She's a POS Jew-hater and vile.

951 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:02:19am

re: #932 WriterMom

Funny-I was just talking to someone about that last week. Although the topic is really not generally my cup of tea, I was speaking with someone who is very high up in the HIV/AIDS activism scene in South Africa. He said that Mbeki, that lunatic basically up until now has refused to 'believe' there is a link between HIV and AIDS-so it was impossible to come up with a strategy for it, prevention or treatment in SA. Now, the new Health Minister is dealing with it.


Yes, sub Sahran Africa is going to lose a whole generation because of wide spread ignorance, stupidity and irresponsible behavior from various Government officials.

These people are educated and have subjected thier populations to the most painful situations because they fail to use objective data to help them to make decisions

952 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:02:44am
953 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:03:07am

re: #947 reine.de.tout

No-beyond the caffeine. Just like MSG in chips and other snacks, I bet that one of the chemicals has an addictive property.

954 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:03:15am

re: #944 CapeCoddah

I keep telling him that. He is a health nut, only eats like bark and twigs. He got a little strange after he and his wife split. Wants to become a monk and wear togas.
Kind of a weird change for a carpenter/ trained chef turned prison guard.

bark and twigs did in Ewell Gibbons...pass the Beef-O-Roni

955 realwest  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:03:26am

Well y'all it's been grand but I gotta go - chores to do and all that.
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

956 maddogg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:03:48am

re: #941 WriterMom

I'm sure there is something in those carbonated drinks that creates an addiction. We stopped buying them completely-we just have water and fruit juice (pure, not sugar water) and milk around the house.

Thank God burbon is sugar free! :)

957 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:04:20am

re: #949 CapeCoddah

No I dont, I'm married, it's legal to be horny.

Please tell that to my wife!

(did I just type that out loud?)

958 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:04:20am

re: #948 father_of_10

I went to the dentist a couple of months ago and he told me to back off from drinking so much soda. I was downing 2-3 cans of Dr Pepper a day. So I quit soda cold turkey for 6 weeks, now I'm back to 2-3 cans a week. I can live with that. We all need a few vices, right? LOL

You are just drowning in vices...lol

959 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:04:26am

re: #941 WriterMom

I'm sure there is something in those carbonated drinks that creates an addiction. We stopped buying them completely-we just have water and fruit juice (pure, not sugar water) and milk around the house.

Jews get addicted to the carbonation, its called seltzer. Everyone else gets addicted to sugar and caffeine.

960 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:04:27am

re: #951 shanec99

You mean Jews don't shrivel up Arab penises (peni?) with their Hair Beams?
America is not infecting African babies with polio?

WHAT?

/

961 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:04:33am
962 bosforus  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:04:50am

Part of Bush's response to the shoe throwing incident.
"I don't know what the guy's cause is."
Ummm, take a wild guess. Though I don't agree with "the guy's cause", it's not that hard to understand.

963 phoenixgirl  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:04:53am

re: #944 CapeCoddah

I keep telling him that. He is a health nut, only eats like bark and twigs. He got a little strange after he and his wife split. Wants to become a monk and wear togas.
Kind of a weird change for a carpenter/ trained chef turned prison guard.

i'm picturing your dad with his own construction company, fixing food for his workers that are all ex cons while preaching to them in a hair shirt and sandals

964 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:05:23am

re: #953 WriterMom

No-beyond the caffeine. Just like MSG in chips and other snacks, I bet that one of the chemicals has an addictive property.

that could very well be.
But caffeine itself is sufficient.
I know people who don't drink coffee, but first thing in the morning, they have a diet coke to get them started.
You don't see the same level of "loyalty" for, say, 7-up which is caffeine-free.

965 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:05:36am

re: #952 ploome hineni

gak...that's your father?

you have your hands full

lol

Yeah, he is interesting, nut a great guy, I love him dearly. As long as he does not go thru with the name change, too. That would make life difficult...

966 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:05:41am

re: #947 reine.de.tout

Caffeine.

No, just flavor. Lemonade, milk, juices, and iced tea have it too.

/I drink caffeine free cabonated drinks unless at a restaurant.

967 gop_patriot  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:06:00am

re: #924 yma o hyd


The programming director for al-Baghdadiya, Muzhir al-Khafaji, described the journalist as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man".

He said he was afraid for Mr Zaidi's safety, adding that the reporter had been arrested by US officials twice before.

"We fear that our correspondents in Iraq will be arrested. We have 200 correspondents there," he added.

Well, I couldn't tell from the photo who the protesters were, looks just like a screaming, frothing at the mouth mob to me... who are they?

And good grief. They're afraid for his safety, but he's been arrested TWICE before by U.S. Officials. Interesting.

968 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:06:04am
969 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:06:08am
970 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:06:18am

re: #961 ploome hineni

actually, before I totally stopped,I had switched to caffien free dietcoke

the caffinated wasgiving me tachycardia

/s[ellingjustfor you lol

har-de-har-har.
You know I love your spelling LOL.
buT you foRgot to do tHis.

971 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:06:28am

re: #957 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Please tell that to my wife!

(did I just type that out loud?)

You can tell her I said so.

972 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:06:38am

And here's another piece of cheerful (NOT!) news:

Drivers halt Afghan supply route

I wonder if they're really just afraid, or if there have been little - inducements, to make them relly really really fearful, like plasma TVs if they stop driving the convoys ...

973 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:06:47am

re: #950 WriterMom

I just read more of her "political activity" section. A Socialist who seems to have a bizarre range of activism in her past. Everything from Vietnam to Chechnya to Bosnia to Romanian mining concerns.
Of course, she's also a U.N. goodwill ambassador, so she must be okay...

974 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:07:04am
975 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:07:28am

re: #953 WriterMom

No-beyond the caffeine. Just like MSG in chips and other snacks, I bet that one of the chemicals has an addictive property.

Like I said in my #966, it's called "flavor". Other drinks such as lemonade, juices, milk, and iced tea have it too. Water, by comparison, is bland and flavorless.

976 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:07:30am

re: #971 CapeCoddah

You can tell her I said so.

Oh. That won't help. She thinks we're all idiots.

977 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:07:37am

re: #949 CapeCoddah
You are so right... trouble is the woman I was married to was horny all the time, and I was away in Iraq, Africa... and she well she ...you know she did the humpty dumpty with every Tom and Harry's dick encountered .

Trying to divorce her, but she wont sign the papers. Apparently she wants a part of my retirement.

978 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:07:37am

re: #957 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Please tell that to my wife!

(did I just type that out loud?)

I will, next time we meet for a drink :)

979 Golem Akbar  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:08:31am

Good morning! Is this thing working? tap tap tap

980 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:08:44am

re: #942 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Excellent! And to add a little to the topic Christmas tunes collection... to the tune of "O Come, O Come, Emmanuel":

Oh, come on, Emanuel!
You expect us to believe that? What the hell?!
"No discussions" on that Senate seat?
And Blago's just some guy who lives down the street?
No dice! No dice! Emanuel
You expect us to believe that? What the hell?!

981 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:08:55am

re: #975 Honorary Yooper

I like water.

982 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:09:09am

re: #979 Golem Akbar

{GOLEMLEH}

983 phoenixgirl  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:09:11am

re: #981 WriterMom

I like water.

i like beer

984 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:09:18am

re: #946 realwest

Um, linky no work!

Well, google Karina Lombard. You won't regret it.

985 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:09:36am

re: #975 Honorary Yooper

Like I said in my #966, it's called "flavor". Other drinks such as lemonade, juices, milk, and iced tea have it too. Water, by comparison, is bland and flavorless.

You have a point.
My daughter will drink the "flavored" and carbonated water, but doesn't like regular water.
I find when I'm thirsty, anything but water actually makes me more thirsty.

986 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:09:51am

re: #983 phoenixgirl

i like beer

Beer has water in it.

987 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:09:53am

re: #977 shanec99

That's awful. Sorry to hear that.

988 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:10:01am
989 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:10:04am

re: #963 phoenixgirl

i'm picturing your dad with his own construction company, fixing food for his workers that are all ex cons while preaching to them in a hair shirt and sandals

Not far off...Had his own company for years, got tired of building, went to Johnson and Wales cooking school, then after he graduated, took a job with the Department Of Correction as a kitchen prison guard. Detests it, but will retire in 3 years with full pension and bennies, which is the only reason he went to the DOC.

990 phoenixgirl  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:10:19am

re: #986 reine.de.tout

Beer has water in it.

magic water

991 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:10:23am

re: #968 taxfreekiller

Texas Govt. study, $700,000,000 in one year that Tax Payer Hospitals had for the health care of illegal immigrants.

$700,000,000.00

Texas alone.

Somebody's ripping off somebody.

992 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:10:25am
993 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:10:28am

re: #986 reine.de.tout

LOL

994 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:10:29am

re: #960 WriterMom

You mean Jews don't shrivel up Arab penises (peni?) with their Hair Beams?
America is not infecting African babies with polio?

WHAT?

/


I had heard the story about polio in Nigeria (west Africa), but I am in east Africa... so I don't know if that story is true... but I never heard about the shriveled schlongs... or in this case schlorts.

995 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:10:37am

re: #979 Golem Akbar

Good morning! Is this thing working? tap tap tap

Nobody home, we gave at the office, just us chickens.
Me beastie me eat you.

ahem

Yes? Please do come right in.

996 Golem Akbar  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:10:58am

Well, now, I'm in.
I want to wish all (female) Lizards a big wet kiss -- it's raining like crazy here in (formerly) sunny LA. And to all male Lizards: dude!

997 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:10:59am

re: #984 Occasional Reader

Well, google Karina Lombard. You won't regret it.

Oh. That Karina Lombard.

998 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:11:20am

re: #967 gop_patriot

Besides looking like the usual rent-a-seething-mob, they're actually supporters of Moqtada Sadr - the one who tried that uprising in Basra earlier this year.

Well well well, I thought to meself, so its not just a shoe-throw by a stressed-out poor journo, it looks like a well-planned action by the Sadr Army ...

999 Golem Akbar  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:11:31am

re: #982 WriterMom

{GOLEMLEH}

WM!

1000 Learned Mother of Zion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:11:56am

re: #959 lifeofthemind

Jews get addicted to the carbonation, its called seltzer. Everyone else gets addicted to sugar and caffeine.

I love seltzer.

1001 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:12:07am

re: #980 Occasional Reader

Excellent! And to add a little to the topic Christmas tunes collection... to the tune of "O Come, O Come, Emmanuel":

Oh, come on, Emanuel!
You expect us to believe that? What the hell?!
"No discussions" on that Senate seat?
And Blago's just some guy who lives down the street?
No dice! No dice! Emanuel
You expect us to believe that? What the hell?!

Be nice to Rahm. He's my newest crush.

1002 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:12:30am

re: #780 WriterMom

Richard: FALK YOU!

Ditto that.
As earlier stated, Dick Fucalk is an anti-Semite and not just anti-Zionist. The little weasel reports to the UN that the Israelis are acting like Nazis and that they are committting a Holocaust against the Palistinians.
Only an anti-Semite would go for the Jewish jugular by invoking the Nazi and Holocaust analogies.

1003 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:12:31am

re: #983 phoenixgirl

i like beer

It makes me a jolly good fellow
I like beer
It makes me feel good
And sometimes it makes me feel mellow
(mmmaaakes himmm feeel mellowww...)

1004 vapig  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:12:32am

Good morning, all!

1005 Learned Mother of Zion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:13:09am

re: #1002 Spare O'Lake

Ditto that.
As earlier stated, Dick Fucalk is an anti-Semite and not just anti-Zionist. The little weasel reports to the UN that the Israelis are acting like Nazis and that they are committting a Holocaust against the Palistinians.
Only an anti-Semite would go for the Jewish jugular by invoking the Nazi and Holocaust analogies.

That also proves he is uncreative, in addition to being a prick.

1006 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:13:17am

re: #987 WriterMom

That's awful. Sorry to hear that.


Its for the best... she was as mean as a rattlesnake with bad constipation. I needed to move on anyway, just gotta pay the lawyer.

1007 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:13:18am

Is anyone here an artist, or know an artist, or have even a little bitty bit of artistic ability, who could draw a cover for the cookbook? This is our final project for the cookbook, otherwise it is good to go. I have a sample of what I would like for the cookbook cover, but I need somebody to draw something similar that we can use.

Anyone?
Anyone?
Nic is blue.

1008 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:13:28am

re: #1001 MandyManners

You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.
/begging you here...

1009 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:13:41am

re: #977 shanec99

You are so right... trouble is the woman I was married to was horny all the time, and I was away in Iraq, Africa... and she well she ...you know she did the humpty dumpty with every Tom and Harry's dick encountered .

Trying to divorce her, but she wont sign the papers. Apparently she wants a part of my retirement.

Aw, nutz.

How long were you married? That has a lot to do with what--if any--part of your pension she can get.

BTW, she doesn't have to sign anything. The court can sign it for her.

1010 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:13:51am

re: #1007 reine.de.tout

Do stick figures count?

1011 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:13:56am

re: #997 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh. That Karina Lombard.

She makes me want to become a lesbian.

1012 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:14:00am
1013 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:14:12am

re: #1001 MandyManners

Be nice to Rahm. He's my newest crush.

Then, I pity Rahm.
/

1014 Golem Akbar  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:14:34am

Movie recommendation: The Reader. Amazing movie. Sure to be considered one of the great films about the holocaust and how the post-war Germans dealt with their guilt.

1015 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:14:40am

re: #1006 shanec99

mean as a rattlesnake with bad constipation

GA!

1016 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:14:48am

re: #1007 reine.de.tout

Is anyone here an artist, or know an artist, or have even a little bitty bit of artistic ability, who could draw a cover for the cookbook? This is our final project for the cookbook, otherwise it is good to go. I have a sample of what I would like for the cookbook cover, but I need somebody to draw something similar that we can use.

Anyone?
Anyone?
Nic is blue.

I have an idea for the cover (or do you have that set in stone)? I would suggest a Lizard with a recognizable lefty in his teeth.

1017 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:15:04am

re: #1010 WriterMom

Do stick figures count?

LOL.
Lizards aren't sticks.
So I guess not.
But gee, thanks so much for the offer/

1018 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:15:18am

re: #1011 Occasional Reader

GA!

1019 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:15:26am

re: #1008 WriterMom

You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.
/begging you here...

Hey, it's that thing with the dead fish and the steak knife. Who can resist? (Vxbush and I posted about it last night.)

1020 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:15:40am

re: #977 shanec99

You are so right... trouble is the woman I was married to was horny all the time, and I was away in Iraq, Africa... and she well she ...you know she did the humpty dumpty with every Tom and Harry's dick encountered .

Trying to divorce her, but she wont sign the papers. Apparently she wants a part of my retirement.

That sucks. My dad's wife was cheating, too. It took a lot out of him. He is an honorable guy. Thing is, SHE has the money, and put off a divorce for a long time trying to figure out how to screw him more than she already had. Lawyers told her there was no way, she would have to pay up. Which is a good thing, since he was giving her the money to pay the mortgage when he moved out (his parents home, that his mother left them) We dont know what she did with the money, but she did not pay the mortgage, and now my grandparents home is gone from the family.

1021 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:15:46am

4 hrs ago, it was drizzling, windy and 53F here in San Antonio. It is now drier, breezy, and 41F outside. Hey, Algore-could I please haz a globull warming...Sheesh.

1022 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:15:55am

re: #1012 Iron Fist

Why would you abuse good alcohol by mixing it with water? Next you're going to expect me to use a glass.

The horror. The horror.

O, golly.
My grandmother taught me that refined and genteel ladies always use a glass for their beer.

1023 gop_patriot  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:16:31am

re: #998 yma o hyd

Someone posted a link yesterday (?) that proposed that this reporter was the same one that had been 'kidnapped' and 'released' by a terrorist bunch recently- if he is part of their group, it might have been their way of getting information to him and/or telling him what to do at the press conference, to get this thing rolling.

Just my conspiratorial musings, though. But it sounds reasonable to me...

1024 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:16:33am

re: #1014 Golem Akbar

Movie recommendation: The Reader. Amazing movie. Sure to be considered one of the great films about the holocaust and how the post-war Germans dealt with their guilt.

Starring our own English Rose, Kate Winslett ...

1025 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:16:35am

re: #1011 Occasional Reader

She makes me want to become a lesbian.

I like women. Does that make me a lesbian?

1026 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:16:37am

re: #998 yma o hyd

Besides looking like the usual rent-a-seething-mob, they're actually supporters of Moqtada Sadr - the one who tried that uprising in Basra earlier this year.

Well well well, I thought to meself, so its not just a shoe-throw by a stressed-out poor journo, it looks like a well-planned action by the Sadr Army ...

Same jerks who made a circus of Saddam's hanging. The Howard Stern brigade of religious/political terror.

1027 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:16:38am

re: #1016 Walter L. Newton

I have an idea for the cover (or do you have that set in stone)? I would suggest a Lizard with a recognizable lefty in his teeth.

Not set in stone at all.
Can you draw?

1028 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:16:56am

re: #1013 Honorary Yooper

Then, I pity Rahm.
/

As my nanny useta' say, "there've been wilder bucks than he milked in a gourd".

1029 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:17:22am

re: #1019 MandyManners

First of all-that's an urban myth-and has been debunked by David Frum. That is a Blues Brothers schtick...

Second-I cannot believe that you are crushing on an effeminate, obnoxious, leftist, self-hating Jew who is BHO's right hand man.

1030 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:17:32am

re: #1021 Pietr

4 hrs ago, it was drizzling, windy and 53F here in San Antonio. It is now drier, breezy, and 41F outside. Hey, Algore-could I please haz a globull warming...Sheesh.

Well, it's gonna get up to close to 80 here in Baton Rouge. This is after we had our sneaux day last week. Will be in the 70's all week. Hard to be in the Christmas spirit when it feels like summer.

1031 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:17:37am

re: #854 Iron Fist

Some cars are better able to take damage than others. Especially when the good guys are in them. Ah, but imagine what you can do with a well placed katana.

1032 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:17:40am

re: #1027 reine.de.tout

Not set in stone at all.
Can you draw?

Not a lick. I was just sort of throwing out a side topic, the cover itself, apart from who could draw it.

1033 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:17:49am

re: #1024 yma o hyd

Starring our own English Rose, Kate Winslett ...

Now, that's a real woman.

1034 Golem Akbar  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:17:56am

re: #1024 yma o hyd

Starring our own English Rose, Kate Winslett ...


She's a gem. What a great actress!

1035 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:17:58am

re: #1009 MandyManners

Aw, nutz.

How long were you married? That has a lot to do with what--if any--part of your pension she can get.

BTW, she doesn't have to sign anything. The court can sign it for her.


3 years... but she says she intends to draw it out for another year and a half. Annoying...
I have encountered a scorpion with terrible hemorrhoids who was more engaging at dinner converstaion and was more pleasant to be around than she is.

1036 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:17:59am

re: #1020 CapeCoddah

That sucks. My dad's wife was cheating, too. It took a lot out of him. He is an honorable guy. Thing is, SHE has the money, and put off a divorce for a long time trying to figure out how to screw him more than she already had. Lawyers told her there was no way, she would have to pay up. Which is a good thing, since he was giving her the money to pay the mortgage when he moved out (his parents home, that his mother left them) We dont know what she did with the money, but she did not pay the mortgage, and now my grandparents home is gone from the family.

pfft!...how can you trust a woman?

1037 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:18:27am

re: #1029 WriterMom

First of all-that's an urban myth-and has been debunked by David Frum. That is a Blues Brothers schtick...

Second-I cannot believe that you are crushing on an effeminate, obnoxious, leftist, self-hating Jew who is BHO's right hand man.

He didn't do those things? Well, fuck him then.

1038 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:18:28am

re: #1032 Walter L. Newton

Not a lick. I was just sort of throwing out a side topic, the cover itself, apart from who could draw it.

Suggestion noted.
Now, do you know anyone who can draw?

1039 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:18:36am

re: #983 phoenixgirl

i like beer

So does Tom

1040 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:19:05am

re: #1035 shanec99

3 years... but she says she intends to draw it out for another year and a half. Annoying...
I have encountered a scorpion with terrible hemorrhoids who was more engaging at dinner converstaion and was more pleasant to be around than she is.

What does your attorney say?

1041 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:19:12am

re: #1023 gop_patriot

Someone posted a link yesterday (?) that proposed that this reporter was the same one that had been 'kidnapped' and 'released' by a terrorist bunch recently- if he is part of their group, it might have been their way of getting information to him and/or telling him what to do at the press conference, to get this thing rolling.

Just my conspiratorial musings, though. But it sounds reasonable to me...

Yep - little pieces falling into place.

Just because something looks like a conspiracy doesn't mean its not actually true ...

1042 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:19:19am

re: #1030 reine.de.tout

Well, it's gonna get up to close to 80 here in Baton Rouge. This is after we had our sneaux day last week. Will be in the 70's all week. Hard to be in the Christmas spirit when it feels like summer.

Just in case you missed my earlier posting, it was -16 degrees last night in the Denver metro area. It's -9 right now.

And this afternoon/tonight we will have 1-3 inches of the fluffy-while global warming crystals (tm).

1043 bosforus  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:19:24am

Anyone know how to prevent Word from italicizing text surrounded by underscores? Just discovered it does this and it's bugging the crap out of me!

1044 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:19:28am

re: #1035 shanec99

3 years... but she says she intends to draw it out for another year and a half. Annoying...
I have encountered a scorpion with terrible hemorrhoids who was more engaging at dinner converstaion and was more pleasant to be around than she is.

How the hell do so many of you guys end up marrying women like that?

1045 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:20:24am

re: #980 Occasional Reader

We need even more for the LGF Christmas Music Collection.

You're a mean one, Blagojevich.
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a Daley,
You're as charming as a DeLeo.
Blagojevich.

You're a bad banana
With a greasy black peel.

You're a monster, Blagojevich.
Your heart's an empty hole.
Your brain is full of spiders,
You've got garlic in your soul.
Blagojevich.

I wouldn't vote for you, with a
thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole.

You're a vile one, Blagojevich.
You have termites in your smile.
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile.
Blagojevich.

Given the choice between the two of you
I'd take the seasick crockodile.

You're a foul one, Blagojevich.
You're a nasty, wasty skunk.
Your heart is full of unwashed socks
Your soul is full of gunk.
Blagojevich.

The three words that best describe you,
are, and I quote: "Stink. Stank. Stunk."

You're a rotter, Blagojevich.
You're the king of sinful sots.
Your heart's a dead tomato splot
With moldy purple spots,
Blagojevich.

Your soul is an apalling dump heap overflowing
with the most disgraceful assortment of deplorable
rubbish imaginable,
Mangled up in tangled up knots.

You nauseate me, Blagojevich.
With a nauseaus Obama-naus.
You're a crooked jerky jockey
And you drive a crooked horse.
Blagojevich.

The Machine a three decker saurkraut and toadstool
sandwich
With arsenic sauce.

1046 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:20:38am

re: #1036 albusteve

pfft!...how can you trust a woman?

I dont trust any woman in my family, they are certifiable. I keep me and mine far away.

1047 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:20:51am

re: #1020 CapeCoddah

there was a time I used to hope she got AIDS or got preggers... but now I just hope that she leaves me alone.
What she does with her llife is her business.

1048 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:21:01am
1049 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:21:14am

re: #1042 Walter L. Newton

Just in case you missed my earlier posting, it was -16 degrees last night in the Denver metro area. It's -9 right now.

And this afternoon/tonight we will have 1-3 inches of the fluffy-while global warming crystals (tm).

I'm dreaming of a white Christmas . . . really dreaming. Have never seen one. Would also love a little cooler weather right now, Walter send some of that my way.

1050 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:22:13am

re: #1045 Honorary Yooper

We need even more for the LGF Christmas Music Collection.

You're a mean one, Blagojevich.
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a Daley,
You're as charming as a DeLeo.
Blagojevich.

. . .

The Machine a three decker saurkraut and toadstool
sandwich
With arsenic sauce.

Are you Buzzsawmonkey in disguise?

1051 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:22:17am

re: #1038 reine.de.tout

Suggestion noted.
Now, do you know anyone who can draw?

Honestly no. My information technology career didn't bring me in contact with computer graphics people and I really don't directly know anyone in the arts community. Sorry.

Since this is a LGF related project, maybe the guy(s) that drew Charles' logo would be willing to help out if you have an idea.

I guess Charles may be able to help there.

1052 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:22:18am

re: #1040 MandyManners

What does your attorney say?


He says to let everything play out, but I have a good case.

1053 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:22:51am

re: #1047 shanec99

there was a time I used to hope she got AIDS or got preggers... but now I just hope that she leaves me alone.
What she does with her llife is her business.

Just stick to hoping she goes away and stays away. Best you can hope for. My beloved great grandmother was right, be patient, what goes around, ALWAYS comes around.

1054 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:23:18am

re: #1051 Walter L. Newton

Honestly no. My information technology career didn't bring me in contact with computer graphics people and I really don't directly know anyone in the arts community. Sorry.

Since this is a LGF related project, maybe the guy(s) that drew Charles' logo would be willing to help out if you have an idea.

I guess Charles may be able to help there.

Walter - this is an LGF Readers project, Charles asked that I make it very clear that the cookbook is not in any way an official or sanctioned project of LGF or Charles Johnson.

1055 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:23:36am

re: #1050 reine.de.tout

Are you Buzzsawmonkey in disguise?

No, but I'm just as funny and creative, and will be here through Friday.
:-)

1056 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:23:39am

re: #1049 reine.de.tout

I'm dreaming of a white Christmas . . . really dreaming. Have never seen one. Would also love a little cooler weather right now, Walter send some of that my way.

You do not want what we are having right now. We are talking actually dangerous temperatures.

1057 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:23:58am

re: #1052 shanec99

He says to let everything play out, but I have a good case.

It took about two years to end my nine-month marriage.

1058 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:24:27am

re: #1055 Honorary Yooper

No, but I'm just as funny and creative, and will be here through Friday.
:-)

Great!
Gotta tell you though - if buzzsawmonkey does not make an appearance during that period of time, I'm going to have my suspicions . . .

1059 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:24:41am

re: #1046 CapeCoddah

I dont trust any woman in my family, they are certifiable. I keep me and mine far away.

my mom even turned on me once and beat me senseless

1060 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:24:42am

re: #1044 CapeCoddah

How the hell do so many of you guys end up marrying women like that?


I wish someone had tattoed her with a sign saying approach at your own peril before I married her. But the worst is over... hopefully when I get home after this deployment I can get on with my life independent of her.

1061 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:24:45am

re: #1043 bosforus

Anyone know how to prevent Word from italicizing text surrounded by underscores? Just discovered it does this and it's bugging the crap out of me!

Can you sort of type out what it's doing? Do you mean something like this...

___ hello world ___

... and it's automatically italicizing "hello world" without you telling it to do that?

1062 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:25:03am

re: #1056 Walter L. Newton

You do not want what we are having right now. We are talking actually dangerous temperatures.

Ah, I know.
Stay safe.
I would like something cooler than mid-70's, though.

1063 notutopia  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:25:28am

re: #631 MandyManners

Ah, Mandy, I tried to get myself motivated to do just that same thing. Once I started, the project has now taken on a life form of it's own! I had a Dickens of a time trying to decide what to Call/name the folders in the files once I reshuffled them to organize. Now, I have to try and do it again... this time I'll reorg them in Alphabetic priority in subtitles. It never ends once you start this project...

1064 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:25:38am

re: #1057 MandyManners

It took about two years to end my nine-month marriage.

Could've been worse. At least you got away from the sick fucker.
BTW, It took me four months to end a one month marriage.

1065 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:25:41am

re: #1053 CapeCoddah

Just stick to hoping she goes away and stays away. Best you can hope for. My beloved great grandmother was right, be patient, what goes around, ALWAYS comes around.


Yep, not angry anymore... just wanting to be FREE.

1066 vapig  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:26:22am

re: #977 shanec99

You are so right... trouble is the woman I was married to was horny all the time, and I was away in Iraq, Africa... and she well she ...you know she did the humpty dumpty with every Tom and Harry's dick encountered .

Trying to divorce her, but she wont sign the papers. Apparently she wants a part of my retirement.

I have always believed that the giving an ex-spouse (no mtter how long married) a part of a servicemembers retirement was the WORST decision EVER! A servicemember would never be granted part of her 401k.

1067 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:26:23am

re: #1062 reine.de.tout

Ah, I know.
Stay safe.
I would like something cooler than mid-70's, though.

Yea, I know. B R weather today, temperature of 80 degrees, wind chill of 79.

1068 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:26:52am
1069 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:26:57am

re: #1056 Walter L. Newton

You do not want what we are having right now. We are talking actually dangerous temperatures.

Dangerously hot, right?

Because... you know, Al Gore said...

1070 shanec99  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:27:42am

re: #1057 MandyManners

It took about two years to end my nine-month marriage.


Good Lord... that was miserable.

1071 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:27:46am

re: #1043 bosforus

Anyone know how to prevent Word from italicizing text surrounded by underscores? Just discovered it does this and it's bugging the crap out of me!

Word drives me nuts because it assumes it knows better than you do, what it is you want to do.

I found that this sometimes helps me with word.
Immediately upon finishing something and immediately when Word changes it, I hit the backspace key - for some reason, that will "undo" whatever it is Word has automatically done. I do not know the reason, but I don't question it. It does mean you have to stop typing when you know word is going to change something, so you can hit the backspace key before you type even a space.

1072 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:28:16am

re: #1056 Walter L. Newton

You do not want what we are having right now. We are talking actually dangerous temperatures.

it's 32 in albuquerque and I am near death...

1073 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:28:20am

re: #1069 Occasional Reader

Dangerously hot, right?

Because... you know, Al Gore said...

How about I give you an inconvenient kick in the ass:)

1074 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:28:41am

re: #1067 Walter L. Newton

Yea, I know. B R weather today, temperature of 80 degrees, wind chill of 79.

You got it.
Actually, you know we have reverse winds here, so when the temp is 80, it might actually feel like it's 83.

1075 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:29:36am

re: #1072 albusteve

it's 32 in albuquerque and I am near death...

Any fluffy-white global warming crystals (tm) recently?

1076 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:29:46am

re: #1068 ploome hineni

Iron Fist has a LGF sew on 'patch' to put on your leather bike jacket

maybe we could use that?

I've never seen that patch. Is there an image somewhere?

1077 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:30:36am

re: #1075 Walter L. Newton

Any fluffy-white global warming crystals (tm) recently?

we got dusted yesterday...I'm in fear of my life bro...I need to get to Jamaica

1078 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:31:08am

re: #1074 reine.de.tout

You got it.
Actually, you know we have reverse winds here, so when the temp is 80, it might actually feel like it's 83.

Yes, it's called the heat index. That line I used was from a comedian friend of mine off of one of his albums back in the 70's. They didn't have a word for "heat index." And it wouldn't have sounded funny.

1079 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:31:53am
1080 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:33:33am

re: #1060 shanec99

I wish someone had tattoed her with a sign saying approach at your own peril before I married her. But the worst is over... hopefully when I get home after this deployment I can get on with my life independent of her.

A good friend of mine, like a brother to me, announced he was getting married to a young lady from another country. He always was a bit impulsive. He brought her over to meet hubby and I and a few other friends. She seemed a bit odd, and no one liked or trusted her, but we said nothing. Over the next few months, our suspicions were confirmed, by her attitude and actions. We tried to tell him, as gently as possible what we thought, individually and later, after they set a date as a group, almost an intervention type of thing. He would not listen to a thing we said. One red flag was when she said any children they may have would be raised and educated in her Eastern Bloc country. This was 3 years ago. He married her, and she got her green card/ citizenship. She left him after cleaning out all accounts a year later. Thank the lord they had no children, it would have killed him. It almost did anyway, he loved her. The bitch.

1081 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:34:18am
1082 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:35:03am

re: #1057 MandyManners

It took about two years to end my nine-month marriage.

I have a lot of admiration for people who survive ordeals like you did, Mandy. Don't know if I could come up to snuff in a situation like you did.

1083 notutopia  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:35:26am

re: #949 CapeCoddah

HAAA, HA, She's just envious because your Go gettum is not Go gone...

1084 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:37:17am
1085 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:37:51am

re: #1079 Iron Fist

That was a collaberation between me and PDM. He did all the actual art work, while I supplied the design criteria for the most part (we changed out one font because PDM felt it made the patch a little too gang colors like; I thought that was a feature :-)

I may still have some of the artwork around. It'd be on my home computer if I do. I get by there about once a week right now.

HOLD EVERYTHNG!
I have a volunteer and was just now in contact with him.
SO THANKS EVERYONE.

1086 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:38:48am

re: #1084 Iron Fist

I figure that I'd chop up any woman that did me that dirty. I might not kill her, but she'd never forget how badly she fucked up.

OH, his friends wanted her ass on a platter, all we could do was be there for him, and hope her next target was not so trusting.

1087 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:39:52am

Must run - doctor's appt - aging is such a time-consuming process - see ya'll later.

1088 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:45:24am

re: #1072 albusteve

it's 32 in albuquerque and I am near death...

That's downright tropical. We're hovering around 10F in Chicago with ice all over the expressways, and windchills about -10F.

1089 bosforus  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 8:50:19am

re: #1061 Walter L. Newton

re: #1071 reine.de.tout

Sorry for disappearing there. Got caught up with some other work.
Basically, what was happening was when I typed something like this "_don't italicize this text_" it turned it into "don't italicize this text". Which is stupid.

1090 hippieforlife  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:15:58am

What if shoes had been thrown at Obama? Would he be hurt or "embarrassed" or would the shoe slinger have been a dead man?


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