Better late than never.

bout time!

Take a long Falk off a short pier.

What's weird is that people will react to this with shock, which is ridiculous. Israel has a perfect right to determine who it admits to its territory.

Bravo!

Excellent, you got to love the Israelis. Reminds me of Rudy G taking a stand, barring Arafat from coming to NYC, addressing the UN.

Now if the US would only refuse to let him back in because of his support of terrorism.

Israel told Richard Falk to Falk Off.

Nutcase.

Who smacked Olmert with a clue-by-four?

And Obama and the moonbat coalition would turn this country over to the UN given a chance.

Would that we in the USA were equally discriminating.

"Truthers" are ignorant of engineering and construction realities, and willingly so.

Ojoe, architect.

why? is yours missing? re: #10 MandyManners

Who smacked Olmert with a clue-by-four?

You see?! This only proves that Mossad was behind 9/11! We're through the looking glass here, people!
/

If he's a monitor of human rights, then I'm the Emporer of Atlantis.

GOOD! No reason to give support to the enemy.

Hope they made him walk back.

Good job, Israel!

re: #16 MrSilverDragon

If he's a monitor of human rights, then I'm the EmporerEmperor of Atlantis.

Dangit.

Why isn't this "Inspector" Clueless in Mugabe's Zimbabwe, testing the choleric water?

Why can't the UN find the "real" genociders?

Falk off.

What about Palin's church being attacked?

re: #13 Ojoe

"Truthers" are ignorant of engineering and construction realities, and willingly so.

Ojoe, architect.

They live in an alternate reality where never before in history has fire melted steel.

re: #16 MrSilverDragon

If he's a monitor of human rights, then I'm the Emporer of Atlantis.

You mean you're not Aquaman?

re: #13 Ojoe

"Truthers" are ignorant of engineering and construction realities, and willingly so.

Ojoe, architect.

It's funny how they demand scientific evidence for the possibility of the engineering failures of 9/11 yet have no idea how to understand the proof when it's shown to them.

re: #23 Ben Hur

What about Palin's church being attacked?

Sorry.

Thought I clicked to return to the last thread.

Please disregard.

re: #13 Ojoe

"Truthers" are ignorant of engineering and construction realities, and willingly so.

Ojoe, architect.

Hey U.N? Falk yourself, ok?

re: #14 apachegunner

why? is yours missing?

Nah. Clue-by-fours are spread across the globe.

Kudos go to Israel's Foreign Minister and whoever supported this decision--not to any sympathizers.

re: #23 Ben Hur

What about Palin's church being attacked?

Falk's a busy man?

See how easy it is.

Now ban Jimmy Carter.

re: #26 bosforus

It's funny how they demand scientific evidence for the possibility of the engineering failures of 9/11 yet have no idea how to understand the proof when it's shown to them.

Like handing a chimp a the keys to a Cessna.

Sure, but now we will never find out his stand on the Nirth issue...

Way to go Olmert...

re: #28 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hey- surely you are not saying that steel melts. . .heretic!

Heh. I saw a newspaper article recently that said the wall divides Palestine. People are sick.

COOL!

re: #26 bosforus

It's funny how they demand scientific evidence for the possibility of the engineering failures of 9/11 yet have no idea how to understand the proof when it's shown to them.

You mean this wasn't proof?

/

re: #33 Opinionated

Upding!

re: #18 jcm

Hope they made him walk back.

He's rowing back ....

re: #39 simonml

You mean this wasn't proof?

/

LOL

I'd have paid money to see the indignant look on this dweeb's face when the Israeli security guards told him he wasn't permitted into the country. I can almost wager that he was sputtering and spitting (probably literally) that they would deign to deny such an important personage entry into their criminal empire.

re: #30 MandyManners

Nah. Clue-by-fours are spread across the globe.

Some countries on earth exhibit a definite lack of clue-by-fours.

I suppose this is a good development, but I find it hard to get too worked up by Israel's symbolic/diplomatic actions while they continue to tolerate the murder of their citizens by Palestinian terrorists.
Booting Falk will accomplish exactly zero except to maybe give a few Israeli pols a chance to pretend that they're being tough.

Nominee for the Idiotarian of the Year award?

re: #37 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Heh. I saw a newspaper article recently that said the wall divides Palestine. People are sick.

I had the same "glassy-eyed stare" argument with a coworker about the same thing. Some people just don't get it.

re: #47 lawhawk

Nominee for the Idiotarian of the Year award?

Richard Falk, the falking idiot is a candidate.

re: #48 MrSilverDragon

I had the same "glassy-eyed stare" argument with a coworker about the same thing. Some people just don't get it.

Did you ask them to point out "Palestine" on a map? That should stump em'.

Arnold Roth wrote about his encounter with Falk's predecessor.

Since his visit here and our meeting, I have closely read some of Dugard's many reports and speeches as well as compilations (by invaluable watchdogs like Eye on the UN) of some of the outrageous and partisan pronouncements he's made about Israel's position and policies in this ongoing war. And I have come to the conclusion he meant what he said. The Israeli side, for him, truly is terra incognita. Completely unknown and mostly not understood.

Still McClatchy's moonbat Jerusalem bureau chief Dion Nissenbaum, acts as if Israel is being just a wee bit too sensitive. He calls Falk "contentious" and describes his comparison of Israel to Nazi Germany "provocative."

I'd trade those adjectives for "vicious" and "morally repugnant," but Falk's not really all that far removed from Falk. Near his conclusion, Nissenbaum writes:

For all these reasons, it was clear the Falk wasn't going to be welcome and that his reports will inevitably be tainted by his provocative statements.

No, his reports will be tainted by his intellectual dishonesty and his moral obtuseness. But Israel complains that the UN hired the wrong guy for the job. That's also wrong, Arnold Roth was correct in describing Falk's predecessor like this:

It was hard for me to know what to expect from a man whose business card gives this as his job title: "Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967".

Dugard's role, in simple terms, involves looking exclusively at one side of a multi-sided conflict.

The problem isn't the person with the job, it's the job itself, which demands that the one holding it be hostile to Israel's very existence. That anti-Israel/pro-terror moonbats are those who are most likely to get assigned that job is not surprising, it's practically part of the job description.

Falk, who is the UN's monitor of human rights in the Palestinian territories, last week prompted Israel's ire when he said its policies against people in the territories amount to a "crime against humanity."

Speaking of crimes against humanity

Auschwitz had big ferris wheels just like this one.

Plenty of meat.

It's a "war crime" that this isn't Jewish blood!

Scenes of hunger and deprivation.

Scenes of weak, helpless, starving people.

re: #50 Creeping Eruption

Did you ask them to point out "Palestine" on a map? That should stump em'.

Tell them the give you $50 if they can't. It's a sure bet.

re: #50 Creeping Eruption

Did you ask them to point out "Palestine" on a map? That should stump em'.

Ask them to name a Palestinian leader besides Arafat? That always throws them.

Good for Israel, why the hell should they let him in?

re: #6 2by2

Excellent, you got to love the Israelis. Reminds me of Rudy G taking a stand, barring Arafat from coming to NYC, addressing the UN.

Except Israel shouldn't be tolerating a Special Rapparteur on the Palestinians at all. The job, by its very title demands that its holder condemn Israel every chance he gets.

re: #39 simonml

You mean this wasn't proof?

/

Bwa ha ha! What makes that video so funny to me is that when it came out I was actually in the middle of an engineering class whose subject was how to do accurate scaled modeling. Not that you need a class to laugh at chicken wire.

re: #52 Alouette

Speaking of crimes against humanity

Auschwitz had big ferris wheels just like this one.

Plenty of meat.

It's a "war crime" that this isn't Jewish blood!

Scenes of hunger and deprivation.

Scenes of weak, helpless, starving people.

PHOTOSHOP!

/s

Grenade tossed into the house of another Yemenite Jew.

re: #52 Alouette

Speaking of crimes against humanity

Auschwitz had big ferris wheels just like this one.

Plenty of meat.

It's a "war crime" that this isn't Jewish blood!

Scenes of hunger and deprivation.

Scenes of weak, helpless, starving people.

Aren't these Aussie Dave posts?

I think the UN should invite Geert Wilders to investigate freedom of religion in Saudi Arabia.

re: #39 simonml

You mean this wasn't proof?

/

You doubt his SCIENCE!
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re: #46 Lincolntf

one thing it will accomplish, he wont be able to LIE from the territories and publish "firsthand" accounts (read lies) of the crimes perpotrated against the poor wittul innocent paleostinians. hccchk phewy

so no its not a cure but it feels good to see them bitch slap an asshat

This article is spot on.

Pelosi Reid need to take responsibility for fucking up the economy

re: #43 buzzsawmonkey

Oh, but he is. Because "human rights," it should be remembered, are antithetical to individual liberty, and to the civil rights which safeguard them.

"Human rights" is a fraudulent locution which is meant to simulate concern for freedom and justice under law, but which invariably indicates special rights granted or withheld by governmental whim rather than protection of liberty.

Understood, but I stand by my statement. Human rights is a misnomer. He's a monitor for terrorist rights.

re: #63 jcm

You doubt his SCIENCE!
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There's definitely a consensus about fire not melting steel. Let's move on!

/

The UN is workfare for idiots.

re: #52 Alouette

Speaking of crimes against humanity

Auschwitz had big ferris wheels just like this one.

Plenty of meat.

It's a "war crime" that this isn't Jewish blood!

Scenes of hunger and deprivation.

Scenes of weak, helpless, starving people.

It's just another Thereisenstadt.
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re: #8 Honorary Yooper

Israel told Richard Falk to Falk Off.

Falk Off - let's get Stinky to add that to the LGF dictionary.

Read Falk's Wiki page. He is from Princeton, I wonder if there is a link to Michelle Obama?

re: #66 buzzsawmonkey

Where are the sacks of UNWRA grass imported for the starving "Palestinians" to eat in front of the cameras?

I could not find any pictures on Daylife of Palestinians eating grass, starving en masse, or suffering from crimes against humanity. It must be a Zionist plot!

re: #66 buzzsawmonkey

Where are the sacks of UNWRA grass imported for the starving "Palestinians" to eat in front of the cameras?

The palis need meat. I suggest sending them some pork.

re: #56 dhg4

Except Israel shouldn't be tolerating a Special Rapparteur on the Palestinians at all. The job, by its very title demands that its holder condemn Israel every chance he gets.

Yeah, like Jimmah Carter the fuck

re: #24 jcm

They live in an alternate reality where never before in history has fire melted steel.

Melted? Steel is milled, silly.

re: #79 debutaunt

Melted? Steel is milled, silly.

I thought eye-beams came out of the ground looking that way, the same with rebar!

re: #56 dhg4

Except Israel shouldn't be tolerating a Special Rapparteur on the Palestinians at all. The job, by its very title demands that its holder condemn Israel every chance he gets.

agreed, the job only exists, I suppose, because of the prolonged "refugee" status of all 'Palestinians'. Revoke the refugee status (after all how can you be a refugee for 60 years?) and the job is gone.

Another reason to love Israel, another reason to hate the UN... not that I needed either, at this point.

Falk you Mr. Falk.

“legitimizing Hamas terrorism.”

"Journalists" have been legitimizing Fakestinian terrorism for decades, they helped create and perpertuate the myth of "Palestine" and of "Occupation."

re: #81 2by2

agreed, the job only exists, I suppose, because of the prolonged "refugee" status of all 'Palestinians'. Revoke the refugee status (after all how can you be a refugee for 60 years?) and the job is gone.

They are refugee's because the Jordgyptians made and keep them that way. It's politically advantageous to keep the Palis in "camps" to wave in the UN as "proof" of Israeli evil.

That's their "job" suffer at the hands of Arabs for the purpose of giving Israel a black eye. Nice work if you can get it.

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

I agree that Falk is a monitor for terrorist rights, but I am doing my level best to urge that the very term "human rights" be challenged as a fraud where- and whenever it is raised.

Then we agree to agree. :)

re: #81 2by2

after all how can you be a refugee for 60 years?

ive had that lucid thought a time or two.

thier not refugees any longer. they are jordanians, egyptians and arabs, no different than any other arab. except that they are so virally violently dangerous to any "nation" that hosts them that no one wants them.

From the DT

My Wish:

To: "Palestine"
From: Bibi

Subject: The Grown-Up World (An Offer You Should Not Refuse)

Now that I am in charge we are going to adopt what is simply described as "The Grown-Up Approach" to Israeli security. The new approach is based upon the following grown-up principles:
1) Within the bounds of reason, "Live and Let Live" is desirable.
2) Sovereign nations faced with existential threats will oppose those threats.
3) Asymmetric warfare is still warfare.
4) Wars end prior to total annihilation only when one side firmly realizes that the disadvantages of further violence significantly outweigh the advantages.
5) So-called "proportionate" responses to asymmetric warfare do not encourage the realization in 4) above.

Therefore, "The Grown-Up Approach" to Israeli security is as follows:
1) Israel agrees to the establishment of a sovereign state of Palestine (with all appropriate rights and responsibilities) consisting of the area commonly known as The Gaza Strip plus any other portions of the nations of Egypt, Jordan and Syria devoted to such purpose by those nations.
2) The Golan is not negotiable. (See principle 2) above)
3) Until such time as the state of Palestine is created Israel shall respond to the existing asymmetrical threat to its existence by disproportionately encouraging the realization in principle 4) above.

Your cooperation is appreciated. Sincerely, Bibi

re: #42 Creeping Eruption

LOL

Was the mock-up of the Pentagon made with much more realistic milk cartons?

Seriously, I don't believe anyone in the world gives a damn about the "Palestinians", except as an excuse to hate Jews. Not for a minute.

re: #85 jcm

They are refugee's because the Jordgyptians made and keep them that way. It's politically advantageous to keep the Palis in "camps" to wave in the UN as "proof" of Israeli evil.

That's their "job" suffer at the hands of Arabs for the purpose of giving Israel a black eye. Nice work if you can get it.

yeah, I know, but the UN apparently recognizes their status as refugees; I mean for 60 years they are choosing to live in camps, while they could build towns and cities even in the areas they "occupy" they also could have accepted the Oslo accords for a 2 state solution.
So, how many times do you say no and still being considered a refugee as opposed to just being acknowledged as an idiot?

From the comments at Jihad Watch; A reader reports of the anti-jihad conference.....

Most personally satisfying moment of the day:

Getting a hug from Pamella, having Robert sign my copy of Onward Muslim soldiers, and Standing on the balcony of the center with Pamella and Robert during lunch, decrying the damage LGF and CJ has done to the antijihad movement.

re: #12 rawmuse

Would that we in the USA were equally discriminating.

How true, we allow all kinds of nuts in so they can do harm.

You are all so out there... We need to forge closer ties with the UN, and form the Global Community... once we do that we can talk to those who wish to do us harm... They will see they are wrong and work with us to reduce the greatest threat to our world, Climate Change...

/big time sarc but i could see BO saying it...

re: #91 2by2

yeah, I know, but the UN apparently recognizes their status as refugees; I mean for 60 years they are choosing to live in camps, while they could build towns and cities even in the areas they "occupy" they also could have accepted the Oslo accords for a 2 state solution.
So, how many times do you say no and still being considered a refugee as opposed to just being acknowledged as an idiot?

The Palis don't choose to live in camps; no one wants to let them go anywhere else ESPECIALLY their Arab brethren, and the UN calls the compounds "camps" despite the fact they have permanent buildings.

Today Israel barred this freak from entering the country.

Good good!

re: #91 2by2

yeah, I know, but the UN apparently recognizes their status as refugees; I mean for 60 years they are choosing to live in camps, while they could build towns and cities even in the areas they "occupy" they also could have accepted the Oslo accords for a 2 state solution.
So, how many times do you say no and still being considered a refugee as opposed to just being acknowledged as an idiot?

When Israel is pushed into the sea, and they "return" then and only then will they no longer be refugees.

They've turned down a State 5 times by my count.

The UN's acceptance of their status as "refugees" is just more evidence of the anti-semtism of the UN.

re: #90 maddogg

Seriously, I don't believe anyone in the world gives a damn about the "Palestinians", except as an excuse to hate Jews. Not for a minute.

The entire concept of "Palestinians" is bogus.

The Arab and Islamic world declared war on Israel. Israel was a tiny outpost of Jews outnumbered in unimagined multiples. It was difficult to pretend Israel was the aggressor.

So while the entire Arab and Islamic world continues to war against Israel -even diplomatically and financially if not always by military means- the "Palestinians" were invented as a separate people in order to pretend the conflict is really just between big mean aggressive Israel and some ragtag Arab innocents who deserve pity and support.

re: #92 Killgore Trout

They really have no idea what damage they've done to the anti-jihad, Pamela and Robert, do they? Allying with the fascists and their sympathizers is the worst thing they could've done, and they went and did it.

The Vlaams Belang is not, I repeat, not on our side.

re: #99 Honorary Yooper

They really have no idea what damage they've done to the anti-jihad, Pamela and Robert, do they?

It's always tough to get something like the counter-jihad thing to catch on. It was always tenuous and had limited credibility. It's all gone now.

re: #99 Honorary Yooper

They really have no idea what damage they've done to the anti-jihad, Pamela and Robert, do they? Allying with the fascists and their sympathizers is the worst thing they could've done, and they went and did it.

The Vlaams Belang is not, I repeat, not on our side.

They will never rise to prominence since the MSM will point out their racist alliance and hurt our cause.

re: #55 CapeCoddah

Good for Israel, why the hell should they let him in?

TO ARREST HIM.

re: #90 maddogg

Seriously, I don't believe anyone in the world gives a damn about the "Palestinians", except as an excuse to hate Jews. Not for a minute.

The minute that they realize that they are being used, and understand that the people who are saying all those nice things about them, are not their friends.....That is when they can go forward. The last thing "Palestine's" friends want, is a worldly, informed, and educated Palestine.

re: #95 Kosh's Shadow

The Palis don't choose to live in camps; no one wants to let them go anywhere else ESPECIALLY their Arab brethren, and the UN calls the compounds "camps" despite the fact they have permanent buildings.

Calling towns, camps and refusing to acknowledge that they had countless opportunities to change their status, (not talking about the other Arab nations who prefer to keep the them were they are) within Israel in the beginning and even later through Oslo, that's the UN propaganda.
I call that their (the Palis' corrupt leadership's) choice. And it has nothing to do with being refugees.

re: #102 yochanan

TO ARREST HIM.

Damned fine point. I changed my mind, they should have let him in.

re: #97 jcm

When Israel is pushed into the sea, and they "return" then and only then will they no longer be refugees.

They've turned down a State 5 times by my count.

The UN's acceptance of their status as "refugees" is just more evidence of the anti-semtism of the UN.

That's my point, the UN should be forced to revoke their pathetic refugee status. Question is only how?

re: #106 2by2

That's my point, the UN should be forced to revoke their pathetic refugee status. Question is only how?

Push the UN into the East River and start over.

re: #92 Killgore Trout

From the comments at Jihad Watch; A reader reports of the anti-jihad conference.....

Most personally satisfying moment of the day:

Getting a hug from Pamella, having Robert sign my copy of Onward Muslim soldiers, and Standing on the balcony of the center with Pamella and Robert during lunch, decrying the damage LGF and CJ has done to the antijihad movement.

That's just spiteful and childish. I had typed much more, but decided not to bother... you can't fix stupid.

/Note to the 'reader' that Killgore quoted: Junior High called, they want their drama back.

re: #99 Honorary Yooper
Hi H.Y. - IIRC, only Mark Steyn referred to the Jihadist Muslims but when Pamela or someone else made speeches decrying ISLAM itself, there was thunderous applause.
Wonder if we can get a list of attendees at that conference?

re: #107 jcm

Push the UN into the East River and start over.

Condo conversion?

re: #107 jcm

Push the UN into the East River and start over.

lol,
after all we were the founding fathers of the place, so why not founding a new UN?

re: #107 jcm

Push the UN into the East River and start over.

The East River wouldn't want to be polluted like that.
/

re: #110 Golem Akbar

Condo conversion?

A prison for all of our crooked politicians.

re: #114 CapeCoddah

A prison for all of our crooked politicians.

way too small

re: #112 buzzsawmonkey

Actually, just push it into the East River.

What, and who's going to pay for the DEP and EPA hazardous materials catalog, cleanup costs, hazardous waste removal and remediation, and destruction of the aquatic habitat? /

re: #110 Golem Akbar

Condo conversion?

Can't. With the cost of conversion and the abestoes removal would make it cost prohibitive. BEst have an "Acccidental" fire and be done with it.

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re: #107 jcm
Hi jcm! Ya know one of the few things I did agree with McCain on was his - all too brief - mention/discussion of a League of Democracies - I think something like that would be a GREAT way to "start over again" after we leave the UN and force them to leave the U.S.
Unfortunately we all know that Obama won't do any such thing.

re: #114 CapeCoddah

A prison for all of our crooked politicians.

build a monument decrying ignorance, corruption and unmitigated lust for wealth and power....

re: #95 Kosh's Shadow

The Palis don't choose to live in camps; no one wants to let them go anywhere else ESPECIALLY their Arab brethren, and the UN calls the compounds "camps" despite the fact they have permanent buildings.

Look a Gaza. Israel is out, taking even buried corpses.

Yet to blame Israel, Gaza is still considered occupied by Israel and by some convoluted logic that no one whose brain is not rotted by hatred of Jews could possibly understand, Israel is required to supply them with food and fuel and materials that they then use to fire rockets at Israel.

It is all an absurd charade that a fiction writer could not sell if it wasn't true.

re: #99 Honorary Yooper

They really have no idea what damage they've done to the anti-jihad, Pamela and Robert, do they? Allying with the fascists and their sympathizers is the worst thing they could've done, and they went and did it.

The Vlaams Belang is not, I repeat, not on our side.

A commenter that goes by the name of Hermit is actually arguing the point "...if you want to get rid of islam, get rid of democracy first."

Good fucking riddance to that lot.

re: #115 albusteve

way too small

OH, they can stack 'em deep and high. 10 stories underground, and at least 80 aboveground. Make it the tallest building in New York.

re: #98 Opinionated

The entire concept of "Palestinians" is bogus.

The Arab and Islamic world declared war on Israel. Israel was a tiny outpost of Jews outnumbered in unimagined multiples. It was difficult to pretend Israel was the aggressor.

So while the entire Arab and Islamic world continues to war against Israel -even diplomatically and financially if not always by military means- the "Palestinians" were invented as a separate people in order to pretend the conflict is really just between big mean aggressive Israel and some ragtag Arab innocents who deserve pity and support.

Even more painfully ironic is Palistinians was the name Israeli's were called themselves, especially by Europeans. The name was hijacked by arabs to lend credence to their claim to a land that never existed. I believe Israeli's even had a soccar team called the Palistinians in the early days of Israel.

I know the team existed, but finding any evidence on the web is almost impossible, given the anti-semitic leanings of the overwhelming articles out there in opposition to Israel and the pro-pali propaganda that exists.

Really sad when trying to sift through the sludge trying to find some historical references you know should be rather simple to find.

re: #122 CapeCoddah

OH, they can stack 'em deep and high. 10 stories underground, and at least 80 aboveground. Make it the tallest building in New York.

ha!...hadnt thought of that..Sardine Super Max

re: #115 albusteve

way too small

So, how many of our politicians are crooked? How many of the pols in Illinois are crooked? How many have been to jail?

re: #100 Killgore Trout

It's always tough to get something like the counter-jihad thing to catch on. It was always tenuous and had limited credibility. It's all gone now.

Hopefully we don't get to the point where it gets easy to catch on, but I don't think it will take much more evidence.

re: #116 lawhawk

What, and who's going to pay for the DEP and EPA hazardous materials catalog, cleanup costs, hazardous waste removal and remediation, and destruction of the aquatic habitat? /

We can have Bernie Madoff demolish the building with a hammer and a shovel; that kind of works for me.

re: #126 Golem Akbar

So, how many of our politicians are crooked? How many of the pols in Illinois are crooked? How many have been to jail?

how many have never been popped?

re: #128 2by2

We can have Bernie Madoff demolish the building with a hammer and a shovel; that kind of works for me.

maybe Blago can help as well?

re: #121 CyanSnowHawk

A commenter that goes by the name of Hermit is actually arguing the point "...if you want to get rid of islam, get rid of democracy first."

Heh. I think that illustrates the mentality of those attending these conferences. The movement is no longer about freedom and it's getting tough to hide that fact.

re: #123 buzzsawmonkey

It'd be cheaper than swallowing the cost of the parking tickets currently ignored by the UN's diplomatic scofflaws.

Not to mention how much bill we foot for funding those assholes every year.

re: #120 Opinionated

I can't quite think of a good analogy for the way the Israelis support and essentially "prop up" the very people who are actively attacking them. It's so bizarre as to defy a search for historical parallels.

re: #125 albusteve

ha!...hadnt thought of that..Sardine Super Max

NOW you got it!

THE NEW PONZI scheme that just went belly up could easily cause major problems with anti semitism in America esp. if combined with external problems in the Mideast.

as well as other econ problems in the world, there is always someone looking for a scape goat.

Having already been offered 3/4 of Jerusalem, 93% of Judea/Samaria, weapons, training, economic help, and compensation for their demand of return without having to fullfill any of their commitments; "moderate" Fatah/PLO/PA do what they always do when offered everything they had already asked for: Demand something NEW & more!

Let's not forget the thousands of Terrorists that Israel has already released as a "goodwill" gesture, and the hundreds more they just released.

re: #110 Golem Akbar

Condo conversion?

I've suggested turning the UN buildings into a museum of all the atrocities the UN was created to prevent, but failed to prevent.
Rwanda, Sebrenica, Darfur, etc.

re: #124 vapig

Even more painfully ironic is Palistinians was the name Israeli's were called themselves, especially by Europeans. The name was hijacked by arabs to lend credence to their claim to a land that never existed. I believe Israeli's even had a soccar team called the Palistinians in the early days of Israel.

I know the team existed, but finding any evidence on the web is almost impossible, given the anti-semitic leanings of the overwhelming articles out there in opposition to Israel and the pro-pali propaganda that exists.

Really sad when trying to sift through the sludge trying to find some historical references you know should be rather simple to find.

Exactly right.

Look even as late as 1960 when the movie Exodus was produced.

In the movie the Jews are constantly called Palestinians. The Arabs are called Arabs.

No one in 1960 thought it strange.

In the late 60's when they started hijackings and murder was their new identity invented.

re: #135 yochanan

THE NEW PONZI scheme that just went belly up could easily cause major problems with anti semitism in America esp. if combined with external problems in the Mideast.

as well as other econ problems in the world, there is always someone looking for a scape goat.

Yes, that crossed my mind about a thousand times during the weekend, I know it would in Europe.

Has anybody tracked down exactly when this man ran off the rails? I presume there was a time when he was mentally normal. Bin Laden has confessed to bringing down the towers and Falk apparently disbelieves him. Something could be seriously wrong with Falk.

re: #126 Golem Akbar

So, how many of our politicians are crooked? How many of the pols in Illinois are crooked? How many have been to jail?

Heard that number the other day. That is staggering and I'm from Massachusetts, where crooked politics is just as much a way of life as in Chicago. I guess it is just more subtle here, but not by much.

Yea, let's destroy Israel, they only do such horrible things as create such useless things like the ISQ, the chip your computer is running on and are possibly about to cure diabetes.

re: #135 yochanan

THE NEW PONZI scheme that just went belly up could easily cause major problems with anti semitism in America esp. if combined with external problems in the Mideast.

as well as other econ problems in the world, there is always someone looking for a scape goat.

Well point taken but it appears that many of the people who lost money were also Jewish. Case in point: Senator Lautenberg ( the dead democrat from NJ ). That at least brings a little joy to my heart. I know it i s poor form to bask in some one else's misfortune, but maybe there is a G-D in heaven?

The reasons that the elites in Europe and America align with the enemies in Israel :

1) Anti-semitism, a small but significant percentage have always hated Jews. After being forced to hide for a generation after WW-II they have been crawling back into the public view for the last 40 years and are now on full display. The rise of post communist Russia fueled by oil money has accelerated this but time was working for it anyway.

2) Greed, the Arabs have spent tens of billions of dollars for decades to buy influence. After years of getting little return for being a second pension for diplomats and disgraced politicians they are finally getting their payoff. Al-Jazeera and their other purchases into the MSM may be the most successful media investments in history.

3) Fear, despite the image of Israelis as tough international operatives from the Eichmann kidnapping and Munich the fact is that everyone knows that Jews can be attacked in safety and criticizing Arabs or Islam can have real consequences. For additional commentary go talk to Theo van Gogh.

i love how they stopped him at the airport, like a criminal.
and turned his ass around. good bye and good riddance.
lol.

re: #131 Killgore Trout

Heh. I think that illustrates the mentality of those attending these conferences. The movement is no longer about freedom and it's getting tough to hide that fact.

I don't think that he is representative, given the response, but it is telling that he felt comfortable enough to advance that point there. I am a little surprised at the mildness of the response.

re: #139 Opinionated

Speaking of the movie Exodus, look at this original release poster. Looks like Hamas stole the "militant" logo as their own. Jeesh, totally shameless.

[Link: www.impawards.com...]

re: #107 jcm

Push the UN into the East River and start over.

Took years to clean it up.
My idea is to move the UN to Governor's Island.

re: #147 nyc redneck

i love how they stopped him at the airport, like a criminal.
and turned his ass around. good bye and good riddance.
lol.

I just hope he did not contaminate an El Al jet?

re: #144 Nevergiveup

Yeshiva U. and the program that takes young jews to Israel both were hurt by this fraud.

re: #147 nyc redneck

Yes, Israel can be sensitive about allowing certain fools to enter their country. Good!

re: #153 yochanan

Yeshiva U. and the program that takes young jews to Israel both were hurt by this fraud.

Yeah I saw that.

re: #139 Opinionated

Exactly right.

Look even as late as 1960 when the movie Exodus was produced.

In the movie the Jews are constantly called Palestinians. The Arabs are called Arabs.

No one in 1960 thought it strange.

Correct! From the article I linked to (in my #124):

Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.

So, essentially, the term palistinian for these arabs was created in 1967 after yet another attack against Israel, in which the arabs lost.

It has always been a tactic of the left (and islam is leftist in their totalitarism) to hijack words and repeat them endlessly so no one remembers what they originally meant.

In the late 60's when they started hijackings and murder was their new identity invented.

re: #150 lifeofthemind

Took years to clean it up.
My idea is to move the UN to Governers's RIKERSIsland.

FIXED THAT FOR YOU

I can’t believe what i am reading....did Israel really not allow this schmuck to re-enter back to Israel. Thank G-D finally Israel is reestablishing her sense of sanity. I am proud for a moment now

Dammit! We should protest, in the strongest terms, the Israelis' decision not to let Falk enter their country, because it means that now he's going to want to come back and enter ours.

re: #144 Nevergiveup

Well point taken but it appears that many of the people who lost money were also Jewish. Case in point: Senator Lautenberg ( the dead democrat from NJ ). That at least brings a little joy to my heart. I know it i s poor form to bask in some one else's misfortune, but maybe there is a G-D in heaven?

That really doesn't matter for Anti-Semites, they just need a superficial reason for their hatred, if at all.
This scandal itself is a heart breaker, there are already half a dozen Jewish charities which had to close, because they invested all of their money with Madoff, it will have huge repercussions in the Jewish philanthropy world. This man should be publicly shamed and thrown out of the larger community, if there's something like an excommunication in Jewish law, he should get that stick.

re: #149 vagabond trader

Speaking of the movie Exodus, look at this original release poster. Looks like Hamas stole the "militant" logo as their own. Jeesh, totally shameless.

[Link: www.impawards.com...]

If you pay attention closely, you will notice that's not the only thing they steal. Their entire narrative is stolen from the Jews.

Up to an including when Arafat first- now repeated multiple times even in churches worldwide- the claim that Jesus was Palestinian.

My hubby bought a great old 1967 Life magazine devoted to the Six Days War. There's an article in it about the UN bitching Israel out, discussing "resolutions", and the Soviet ambassador compared Israel to WWII fascists. Some things never change.

re: #160 2by2

That really doesn't matter for Anti-Semites, they just need a superficial reason for their hatred, if at all.
This scandal itself is a heart breaker, there are already half a dozen Jewish charities which had to close, because they invested all of their money with Madoff, it will have huge repercussions in the Jewish philanthropy world. This man should be publicly shamed and thrown out of the larger community, if there's something like an excommunication in Jewish law, he should get that stick.

THERE IS EXCOMMUNICATION IN JEWISH LAW naturi karti has had i applied to them this putz should also be in jail some were.

re: #160 2by2

That really doesn't matter for Anti-Semites, they just need a superficial reason for their hatred, if at all.
This scandal itself is a heart breaker, there are already half a dozen Jewish charities which had to close, because they invested all of their money with Madoff, it will have huge repercussions in the Jewish philanthropy world. This man should be publicly shamed and thrown out of the larger community, if there's something like an excommunication in Jewish law, he should get that stick.

Couldn't agree more. But I have a question. Who was serving on the Boards of these charitable agencies? I served on the Board of one once. And it was very foolish to invest their money, at least the bulk of their money, in this manner.

re: #145 ploome hineni

and so was the "west bank" invented

but the whole world including leftist Israelis, are buying into this fabricated narrative

The tragedy is that the Left's disease has found its way into the mainstream.

It happens everywhere, in the US too. When the Left's opinion metastasises into the body politic, the diagnosis is critical.

re: #163 yochanan

THERE IS EXCOMMUNICATION IN JEWISH LAW naturi karti has had i applied to them this putz should also be in jail some were.

This guy did more damage to the Jewish Nation than the whole Nature Karta can ever do (though they really try very hard to be the leaders in Anti Semitism) I assume he will be convicted, but I believe that the community as a whole needs to distance itself from these crooks.
Back in 17 century Europe the criminal (offender) would need to do t'shuva and he would be forced to sit in the back of the shul, publicly shamed.

i bet that sob had no idea he would be rejected.
these assh*les are so used to getting their way.
i bet he was drunk as a skunk when he landed in zurich.
israel needs to do more of this.
following the evil, being stalwart in recognizing it and then facing it down.
this must happen.

bad link sorry

re: #162 vagabond trader

My hubby bought a great old 1967 Life magazine devoted to the Six Days War. There's an article in it about the UN bitching Israel out, discussing "resolutions", and the Soviet ambassador compared Israel to WWII fascists. Some things never change.

Do you know that "Land for Peace" is older then the 1967 war.

At a time when Israel did not have Gaza, or the "West Bank" or the Golan, the US State Dept and John Foster Dulles suggested that Israel give areas of the Negev to Egypt.

re: #164 Nevergiveup

Couldn't agree more. But I have a question. Who was serving on the Boards of these charitable agencies? I served on the Board of one once. And it was very foolish to invest their money, at least the bulk of their money, in this manner.

I understand, and you're certainly right about the lack of due diligence on part of the boards etc, but you also have to look at the fact that Bernie came out of 'left field', good reputation, long outstanding business record, a friend, speaking the same language. The perfect con man. Hard to resist, but I agree the boards need to be put under scrutiny as well. Huge clean up job necessary.

re: #170 Opinionated

Heh, no surprise. The UN regretted the mandate as soon as it was set to a vote.

re: #133 Lincolntf

I can't quite think of a good analogy for the way the Israelis support and essentially "prop up" the very people who are actively attacking them. It's so bizarre as to defy a search for historical parallels.

If you could think of a good analogy, it would mean that sometime in history there was a democratically elected Government as insane as the current Government is Israel- and that would be impossible.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
hope this works sorry about the broken link

FALK OFF AND DIE!

re: #59 Alouette

You know, I am all for Jews having the right to live wherever they want, but you'd think that the remaining Yemenite Jews might have a preference to live elsewhere if they could get out (I don't know if they can).

re: #168 nyc redneck

So true. LOL. Makes it even sweeter.

ME KEEL THREAD

re: #155 Nevergiveup

Also the Bone Marrow Registry-Gift of Life.

But what we have to fear most is the creeping Islamisation, the stealth jihad. Because every Islamic neighbourhood, every Islamic shop, every mosque, every Islamic school, every burqa, every veil is regarded by many Muslims as building blocks towards a larger goal, towards domination.
...
It will become reality if we don’t act now……….

- Geert Wilders, Facing Jihad Conference
Dec.14, 2008, Jerusalem

This is a page out of Goebbels' play-book - naked fear-mongering, without any pretence and without bothering to focus in on Islamist terrorism, violence or any aberrant behaviour. Wilders simply labels every single activity engaged in by Muslims, legal or otherwise, as evidence of the Muslim plot to dominate the Netherlands.

As seductive as the message may be, it just can't be the right approach.

Here's a thought. What if, along with the unimix and whatever else we give to third-world countries, we developed basic logic workbooks and distributed them to the world's schools? Basic, no-frills, deductive vs. inductive logic, classifying, cause & effect, opinion vs. fact., etc, etc...

On the other hand, looking at where the troofers are coming from, maybe we should develop these and pass them out in our own schools.

re: #180 Spare O'Lake

Geert sounds like a conspiratorial nut-job...paranoic...(and isn't "stealth jihad" what Spencer intends to write about in his next book?)

Hmmmmmm, I wonder how this schmuck made it as far a Ben Gurion AP? Israeli security is such that they screen people BEFORE they fly in. Looks like they wanted to make a point with this lowlife.

Yasher koach!

... Palestinian territories occupied since 1967, ...

Actually, the "West Bank" and Gaza have been "occupied" since 1948. Or doesn't illegal "occupation" by Egypt and Jordan count? And before that, by Great Britain. And before that, by the Ottoman Empire. And before that ...

It's funny how all of the other "occupations" just slip down the memory hole.

Not to mention (as someone else already did upthread) that Israel hasn't "occupied" Gaza since the summer of 2005.

The UN is full of idiots and fools and i would not trust them to water my plants

re: #13 Ojoe

"Truthers" are ignorant of engineering and construction realities, and willingly so.

Ojoe, architect.

Ojoe -

"...The first time fire ever melted steel..." - DUH! - how do all 'y'all think it is made?

-S-

As a 9/11 troofer. Falk has revealed himself to be a deranged schizo-paranoid. He has shown that he is disconnected from reality. No point in Israel's accepting him as a judge over Israel, especially since he has announced in advance that without evidence he has concluded that Israel's treatment of the Palis is a crime against humanity. I wonder if he has even heard of the terrorist war that the Palis have been waging against Israel, and I wonder if he is aware of the right of self-defense -- that includes the right of a government to defend its citizens and residents from a war of terrorism being waged against it.

I am glad that Israel has exercised its right to control its own territory, and to deny this deranged man admission.

Way to go, Ehud.

re: #121 CyanSnowHawk

A commenter that goes by the name of Hermit is actually arguing the point "...if you want to get rid of islam, get rid of democracy first."

Good fucking riddance to that lot.

I just found this - WTF? Huh?