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Shoe-Tosser a Celebrity in Arab World

World | Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:42:35 am PST

The Iraqi TV reporter who threw his shoes at George W. Bush yesterday is rather predictably being hailed as a hero by the Arab world.

Newspapers across the Arab world printed front-page photos of Bush ducking the flying shoes, and satellite TV stations repeatedly aired the incident, which was hailed by the president’s many critics in the region. ...

Wafa Khayat, 48, a doctor in the West Bank town of Nablus, called the attack “a message to Bush and all the U.S. policy makers that they have to stop killing and humiliating people.” ...

Al-Jazeera television interviewed Saddam’s former chief lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi, who offered to defend al-Zeidi, calling him a “hero.”

In Baghdad’s Shiite slum of Sadr City, thousands of supporters of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr burned American flags to protest against Bush and call for the release of al-Zeidi. “Bush, Bush, listen well: Two shoes on your head,” the protesters chanted.

Of course, anyone who tried such a thing with Saddam Hussein would have been tortured, murdered, and dumped into a mass grave.

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1 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:43:59am

MPACUK.....
Global Muslim Fury As Bush Shoe Assassin Misses


All criticism against the journalist is baseless and rejected by MPACUK as throwing a shoe from such a distance at a President with ape-like agility is extremely difficult.

Classy.
/

2 simonml  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:44:49am
Wafa Khayat, 48, a doctor in the West Bank town of Nablus, called the attack “a message to Bush and all the U.S. policy makers that they have to stop killing and humiliating people.”

My irony meter just exploded

3 mean Gene  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:45:42am

Can you imagine any Muslim ''journalist'' trying this against any Islamic ruler in any of Islam's 57 countries?.....and living?

4 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:45:43am

size 10 huh? probably his IQ

5 Victrola  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:46:05am

W should have come back with " Missed me, you Persian shoe!"

6 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:46:22am

Matthews and Olby believe he is a hero also.
/?

7 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:46:25am

Reposted from the DT:


Rant on:
I for one would like to know just what the *sshole is so pissed off about.

Is he mad that oil revenue is now going to the people to pay for schools and hospitals instead of to a dictator to pay for palaces and armies of suicide bombers?

Is he mad because his wife and daughter won't be raped in retaliation for some perceived offense he may have committed (like throwing shoes at a press conference)?

Maybe he's an out of work industrial shredder repair man who wants to get back to work cleaning human bone and gristle out of a plastic shredder? Or a grave digger who liked the convenience of digging mass graves?

Or maybe, just maybe, he's some arrogant, impotent, needle-d*cked little schmuck who hasn't got the b*lls to do for himself what the United States military did for him and now he's too embarrassed to admit it., and too unable to just be a man, say "thank you" and take responsibility for maintaining the freedom that American blood and treasure bought for him.

/Rant off

8 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:46:37am

Where was the Secret Service? One shoe . . . bad enough. TWO?!

9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:46:39am
Al-Jazeera television interviewed Saddam’s former chief lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi, who offered to defend al-Zeidi, calling him a “hero.”

I thought you had to blow up women and children to be called a hero by Arabs.

10 WrathofG-d  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:46:51am

As Dennis Praeger stated this morning: the fact that one felt free enough to so such a thing is alone proof that we have had a positive effect in Iraq.

As Charles correctly pointed out: "Of course, anyone who tried such a thing with Saddam Hussein would have been tortured, murdered, and dumped into a mass grave."

11 Green Helmet Guy  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:47:32am
Of course, anyone who tried such a thing with Saddam Hussein would have been tortured, murdered, and dumped into a mass grave.

Exactly. Just goes to show that the freedom and democracy rubbed off on him no matter how much the shoe thrower dislikes it.

Like you said had he done that under Saddam he'd have been hooked up to a car battery...

12 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:47:38am

Libyan group gives shoe-throwing reporter award


The Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at US President George W. Bush was given a bravery award on Monday by a Libyan charity group chaired by leader Muammar Gaddafi's daughter.
......
"Waatassimou group has taken the decision to give Muntazer Al Zaidi the courage award ... because what he did represents a victory for human rights across the world," the group, headed by Aicha Gaddafi, said in a statement.


Heh.

13 gop_patriot  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:48:12am
Wafa Khayat, 48, a doctor in the West Bank town of Nablus, called the attack “a message to Bush and all the U.S. policy makers that they have to stop killing and humiliating people.” ...

I get so sick and tired of hearing these morons whine about being "humiliated". Waah, waah, waaaaahhhh. It's all about their 'feelings' and how everything affects them.

Life is tough, you ridiculous creature. Deal with it.

14 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:48:21am
15 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:48:24am

I wonder if they were " Bruno Maglia" shoes. The shoes of discriminating murders and terrorists world wide!

16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:48:29am

What I wanted see was Bush catch the shoe and peg the guy with it

17 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:48:29am
The Iraqi TV reporter who threw his shoes at George W. Bush yesterday is rather predictably being hailed as a hero by the Arab world.

Heck, he's being hailed as a hero by the commenters at Kos and HuffPo.

18 Sir Napsalot  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:48:55am

An embarrassment for the Arabs for sure, as they have not graduated into the 'civilized world'.

Also the 'journalists' in our own media could be thanked, as they daily showed a shining example for the world to 'aspire to'.

19 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:49:22am

re: #12 Killgore Trout

Libyan group gives shoe-throwing reporter award

Heh.

Yup I saw that. Get the F-111's fueled up I say!

20 WrathofG-d  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:49:25am

I'm just happy the Arab didn't cure Bush's mustache.

21 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:49:27am
22 Buck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:49:34am

re: #14 buzzsawmonkey

A toast to the President's "ape-like agility"!

It looked to me like he had been ducking shoes his whole life.

23 simonml  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:49:51am

re: #17 Ringo the Gringo

Heck, he's being hailed as a hero by the commenters at Kos and HuffPo.

Great minds Stupid people think alike!

24 thedopefishlives  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:50:16am

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What I wanted see was Bush catch the shoe and peg the guy with it

Now that would've been a truly American moment.

25 WrathofG-d  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:50:22am

re: #20 WrathofG-d

I'm just happy the Arab didn't cure Bush's mustache.

I'll just try that again:

I'm just happy that the tosser didn't curse Bush's mustache.

26 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:50:37am

re: #18 Sir Napsalot

An embarrassment for the Arabs for sure, as they have not graduated into the 'civilized world'.

Also the 'journalists' in our own media could be thanked, as they daily showed a shining example for the world to 'aspire to'.

Maybe they went to School in Russia. The Moscow Universities Krushev School of diplomacy?

27 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:50:38am

re: #3 mean Gene

Can you imagine any Muslim ''journalist'' trying this against any Islamic ruler in any of Islam's 57 countries?.....and living?

57? Why does that number sound so familiar?

28 Ben Hur  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:50:50am

Iraqi TV?

It's based in Cairo.

Chinese food in NY is not Chinese food.

EVERYONE OUT NOW.

See how many years of not having shoes at all can be tolerated.

BBL.

29 Buck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:51:15am

re: #13 gop_patriot

all the U.S. policy makers that they have to stop killing and humiliating people.” ...

My reply? You first!

30 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:51:17am

gotta say the guy threw the shoes real well, had bush not used the gorilla moves either one would have beaned him. good throwing from a distance i must say.

31 imtoast  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:51:19am

He isn't a hero in my book and at this point my book is the only one that counts!

32 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:51:40am

The blame for the disrespect for the United States around the world belongs to the Left-Wing Peace Movement that began its attack against our country in the '60s.
Ever since it's been "COOL" to blame America, those that should thank and respect the U.S. are spitting in our face.
John Kerry and his kind are to blame.

Power to the Correct People!
(They love their country.)

33 WrathofG-d  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:52:51am
34 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:53:35am

Actions have consequences.
Heck even Bill Clinton got physical when Saddam tried to kill Bush 41.
Time to go into Sadr City etc. and give Muckety Muck and his closest friends a goodbye gift.

35 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:53:43am

What will people do to combat the current evil in the world when McChimpyHalliburtonBusHitler steps down and turns over the keys to Our Messiah-King on 20 January 2009?

36 A.W.  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:53:51am

And don't you love it when the MSM tries to pretend that the media over there represents anyone but the dictators.

Of course the dictators hate him. Isn't that a sign bush was doing SOMETHING right?

37 Diamond Bullet  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:54:00am

Too bad this incident is apparently distracting Bush from his master plan for numerous "false flag" attacks against his own country as a pretense for declaring permanent martial law and ceding control of the country to Blackwater, according to various moonbat websites over the years.

38 WrathofG-d  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:54:20am
39 Venezuela lover  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:54:25am

George has some knowledge of pro baseball. A quick snag and throwback to home plate would have been perfect.

Yep, all it takes to be an Islamic hero is to throw a shoe. They do not understand that in a free society with free speech, that is no big deal. Try it in any of the other 56 Islamic States and a quick death will occur.

40 nikis-knight  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:54:28am

If I know W at all, he thought to himself that this was so much less than what the soldiers went through, he couldn't even get mad about it.
Nonetheless, that particular Iraqi is an ingrate, but one guy is hardly representative.

41 Rexatosis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:54:52am

I just wonder if said reporter would dare pull that stunt on a Russian or Chinese leader or diplomat? I doubt it.

42 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:54:55am

re: #8 Creeping Eruption

Where was the Secret Service? One shoe . . . bad enough. TWO?!

I heard on the radio this morning that Bush signaled the Secret Service to hold back. I think he knew pretty quickly what the extent of the threat was.

Question about Muslim culture. What happens if Bush publicly forgives the shoe thrower?

43 shifty  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:55:02am

He's a hero on DailyKos too, so it's not exactly a surprise.

I could just imagine the outrage if he caught the second show in midair and flung it right back at him.

44 ErnieG  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:55:17am

re: #22 Buck

It looked to me like he had been ducking shoes his whole life.

Wrong President. The one I'm thinking of has been ducking lamps.

45 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:55:17am

re: #27 CyanSnowHawk

57? Why does that number sound so familiar?

Supposedly the number of US states according to a speech given by Our Messiah-King on the Quest for the Heavenly Throne earlier this year.

46 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:56:03am

I am so sick and tired of this garbage. God only knows how great our country is. These ungrateful pricks remind me of a spoiled teenager yelling at mom and dad, all the while living under their roof.

47 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:56:07am

re: #33 WrathofG-d

I didn't watch all of it. I can only stomach singing cows so much.

48 nikis-knight  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:56:09am

re: #42 CyanSnowHawk

I heard on the radio this morning that Bush signaled the Secret Service to hold back. I think he knew pretty quickly what the extent of the threat was.

Question about Muslim culture. What happens if Bush publicly forgives the shoe thrower?

Well, first he would have to explain the concept.
Then, I doubt they would believe the words of a crusader.

49 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:56:33am

re: #42 CyanSnowHawk

I heard on the radio this morning that Bush signaled the Secret Service to hold back. I think he knew pretty quickly what the extent of the threat was.

Question about Muslim culture. What happens if Bush publicly forgives the shoe thrower?

His signal to that lead SS agent to hold back is visible on the tape but it was only AFTER the second shoe had already been thrown.

50 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:56:52am

I guarantee that a pair of shoes will be the latest lefty symbol.

51 firedupengineer  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:57:12am

He's also a hero for the American MSM!

Hmmm... could it be that an American journalist put him up to it?

52 Buck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:57:15am

It is well known that Saddam was responsible for the deaths of close to a Million Muslim, Arab, Kurd, and Iranians.

Even this journalist knows this.

Arab on Arab violence seems to be acceptable. I will never understand this.

53 Racer X  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:57:23am

You guys are missing the point. The brave second reporter in the orange shirt immediately sprang to action and saved president Bush from further humiliation. Once again the MSM saves the day!

/Cog mode off

54 ciaospirit  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:57:47am
The Iraqi TV reporter who threw his shoes at George W. Bush yesterday is rather predictably being hailed as a hero by the Arab world.

So are these guys. And still no sign of Gilad Shalit.

RAMALLAH, West Bank – Israel released 224 Palestinian prisoners Monday in a gesture to moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, and jubilant detainees waving Palestinian flags jumped on the roof of one of the buses carrying them to freedom.

55 tfc3rid  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:57:59am

OT:

Caroline Kennedy will be given Hillary's Seante seat... Way to go Gov. Patterson!

Will of the people, my ass...

56 Opinionated  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:58:06am
“Bush, Bush, listen well: Two shoes on your head,”

Worse Nike slogan ever.

57 SteveLA  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:58:06am

Anyone know how throwing shoes is covered under Status of Forces Agreement about to be signed?

58 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:58:11am
“Bush, Bush, listen well: Two shoes on your head,”

I'm sure that lost something in the translation. Otherwise, it does not actually qualify as a "chant."

59 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:58:33am

re: #34 lifeofthemind

Actions have consequences.
Heck even Bill Clinton got physical when Saddam tried to kill Bush 41.
Time to go into Sadr City etc. and give Muckety Muck and his closest friends a goodbye gift.

I think we should use our stealth building demo teams. It should be easy to raze the headquarters of that fool's employer and leave not a single trace that we did it.

/I hear that we're pretty good at that.
//////

60 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:58:44am

re: #3 mean Gene

Can you imagine any Muslim ''journalist'' trying this against any Islamic ruler in any of Islam's 57 countries?.....and living?

Or any reporter in the United States doing this to a visiting Muslim ruler in any of our 58 states.

61 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:59:01am

Fox news just reported that Caroline Kennedy WILL now seek Hilliary's seat? Well hell she has about as much experience as out President Elect? But will she be Senator Kennedy or Senator Scholsberg? Or what ever her husband's name is?

62 ichef  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:59:38am

I bet Dubya always won at "Dodgeball" back in the day.

63 JimmyTheClaw  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:59:43am

re: #55 tfc3rid

OT:

Caroline Kennedy will be given Hillary's Seante seat... Way to go Gov. Patterson!

Will of the people, my ass...

is that the sweet caroline of a song by niel diamond

64 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:59:44am

This event and everything that the lefties say and do FURTHER EMPHASIZES THE GREATNESS OF OUR COUNTRY.

65 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 10:59:55am

are you kidding me? give up the kennedy handle? she'd die first re: #61 Nevergiveup

Fox news just reported that Caroline Kennedy WILL now seek Hilliary's seat? Well hell she has about as much experience as out President Elect? But will she be Senator Kennedy or Senator Scholsberg? Or what ever her husband's name is?

66 gop_patriot  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:00:02am

re: #42 CyanSnowHawk

I heard on the radio this morning that Bush signaled the Secret Service to hold back. I think he knew pretty quickly what the extent of the threat was.

Question about Muslim culture. What happens if Bush publicly forgives the shoe thrower?

Oooh! Oooh! I know! It would humiliate them.

/ugh

67 Racer X  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:00:10am

The Secret Service failed miserably on this one. Dude should have been dead before he hit the ground - with one shoe still on.

68 SteveLA  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:00:13am

re: #56 Opinionated

Worse Nike slogan ever.

Swoosh...."Just Do it"...In Arabic that would be...

69 SFGoth  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:00:33am

LOL, try that with any Arab dictator. Muslim Arabs are the biggest pussies on the planet.

70 WrathofG-d  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:00:37am

re: #47 David IV of Georgia

I didn't watch all of it. I can only stomach singing cows so much.

The celebratory behavior of the "Arab world" is not surprising to me at all, and it really shouldn't be to anyone else here on LGF. Unless we have forgotten why LGF went from an ex-musician's blog about who-knows-what to a powerhouse of Anti-Jihadist/Islamist news source.

71 CIA Reject  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:01:11am

re: #66 gop_patriot

Oooh! Oooh! I know! It would humiliate them...

Breathing humiliates these people.... SHEESH!

72 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:01:33am

re: #60 Walter L. Newton

Or any reporter in the United States doing this to a visiting Muslim ruler in any of our 58 states.

When does Amadenejad make his next appearance at Columbia?
I'll donate a Ferragamo for that prick!

73 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:01:45am

re: #69 SFGoth
hello goth

74 tfc3rid  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:01:51am

re: #61 Nevergiveup

Fox news just reported that Caroline Kennedy WILL now seek Hilliary's seat? Well hell she has about as much experience as out President Elect? But will she be Senator Kennedy or Senator Scholsberg? Or what ever her husband's name is?

Not seek it... There is no election. The governor will appoint her...

75 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:01:51am

Frome the text quoted above:

"Wafa Khayat, 48, a doctor in the West Bank town of Nablus, called the attack “a message to Bush and all the U.S. policy makers that they have to stop killing and humiliating people."

Right, fine - I say, all Western states withdraw any of their humiliating aid to these nations, and let them get on with killing themselves all by themselves.

Problem solved.

76 tfc3rid  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:02:08am

re: #72 IslandLibertarian

When does Amadenejad make his next appearance at Columbia?
I'll donate a Ferragamo for that prick!

You'll end up in prison...

77 jcm  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:02:10am

Rush made the point this morning.

This proof we've won.

This guy would have been tossed in the shredder under Saddam.

With GWB he gets tossed from the room and made a celebrity.

78 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:02:16am
79 SFGoth  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:02:18am

re: #73 apachegunner

hello goth

Umm, hello.

80 Tumulus11  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:02:28am
' Thousands of Iraqis took to the streets Monday to demand the release of a reporter who threw his shoes at President George W. Bush in anger at U.S. policies ...'

. In the day, each journalist present would have been had his or her personal loyalty audited by the industrial shredder.

81 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:02:35am

re: #74 tfc3rid

Not seek it... There is no election. The governor will appoint her...

Yes seek his appointment.

82 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:03:03am

re: #70 WrathofG-d
i thought that lgf was a bycicle blog

83 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:03:04am

re: #56 Opinionated

Worse Nike slogan ever.

I had no idea that the Muslims were so fashion forward.

84 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:03:10am

re: #72 IslandLibertarian

When does Amadenejad make his next appearance at Columbia? I'll donate a Ferragamo for that prick!

I have a pair I haven't been able to get some dried shit off of!

85 ErnieG  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:03:20am

re: #74 tfc3rid

Not seek it... There is no election. The governor will appoint her...

What's the going rate for an appointment?

86 WrathofG-d  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:03:44am

re: #82 apachegunner

i thought that lgf was a bycicle blog

I dunno. I got here after 9/11.

87 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:03:46am

re: #84 Walter L. Newton

I have a pair I haven't been able to get some dried shit off of!

Biological weapon?

88 tfc3rid  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:03:50am

re: #81 Nevergiveup

Yes seek his appointment.

I think the Gov. will give it to her... I still always think there should be a special election... Especially consiering the circumstances in IL with the very same situation...

89 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:03:55am
90 shifty  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:04:11am

re: #61 Nevergiveup

Fox news just reported that Caroline Kennedy WILL now seek Hilliary's seat? Well hell she has about as much experience as out President Elect? But will she be Senator Kennedy or Senator Scholsberg? Or what ever her husband's name is?

I can only hope that if Eli Manning goes down, Patterson doesn't appoint his little sister to fill the position.

91 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:04:40am

re: #42 CyanSnowHawk

I heard on the radio this morning that Bush signaled the Secret Service to hold back. I think he knew pretty quickly what the extent of the threat was.

Question about Muslim culture. What happens if Bush publicly forgives the shoe thrower?

I am unfamiliar with the nuances of the mores of Muslim culture.
Although I would like to have the man hung by his entrails for insulting the United States,
I think it would be a wiser move to treat him, not just humanely, but royally. Feed him with the best foods and clothe him well and release him. See that his family is well provided for. And allow his friends and neighbors to discover that his benefactor is the US.
The may not say it, but I bet they would wonder if he is a tool of the US and that this was all some sort of stunt.

My personal convictions are to forgive without conditions such an insult to myself.

92 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:04:44am

re: #85 ErnieG

What's the going rate for an appointment?

I gotta figure if Illinois seat was going for 12 to 15 milion. NY's must be 30 million. No problem for a Kennedy or a Steinbrenner?

93 Tumulus11  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:04:58am

77 jcm
12/15/08 11:02:10 am

80 Tumulus11
12/15/08 11:02:28 am

. Per Rush.

94 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:05:22am

Throwing Shoe To Power

Don't you feel the revolutionary tingle?

95 Venezuela lover  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:05:27am

The MSM is now reporting that, on top of everything else, some poor reporter was forced to go barefoot because security would not return his shoes.
The United Nations began drafting resolutions demanding the shoes be given to their historical rightful owner. Muslim charities and mosques began collecting funds for the shoes right of return. In the meantime, the shoes are being imprisoned in a squalid refugee camp with no rights and minimal subsistence.
Worldwide protests for this Thursday will include prayers for the shoes and a call for sacrifice until the shoes are returned to full status.

In other news not reported in the MSM, 23 honor killings occurred in pachistan, suicide bombers killed 315 people in Iraq and India, and calls for the destruction of the West continued.

96 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:05:34am

re: #88 tfc3rid

I think the Gov. will give it to her... I still always think there should be a special election... Especially consiering the circumstances in IL with the very same situation...

Think she will profess to being a Yankee or Met fan?

97 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:06:00am

re: #92 Nevergiveup

I gotta figure if Illinois seat was going for 12 to 15 milion. NY's must be 30 million. No problem for a Kennedy or a Steinbrenner?

They may need to re-rename the Triborough Bridge after Caroline.

98 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:06:43am

re: #92 Nevergiveup

I gotta figure if Illinois seat was going for 12 to 15 milion. NY's must be 30 million. No problem for a Kennedy or a Steinbrenner?

Is it just an appointment until the next general election? Is it for 2 years or 4?

99 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:07:13am

As the shoe-thrower was getting dressed that morning, did he pack another pair of shoes? Did he put on his old, worn-out Nunn Bush shoes, knowing he probably wasn't going to get them back?

Enquiring minds want to know!

100 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:07:21am
101 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:07:36am

re: #98 lifeofthemind

Is it just an appointment until the next general election? Is it for 2 years or 4?

What do i look like a lawyer. I'm a dentist?

102 WrathofG-d  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:08:01am

I'm sure that before he threw his shoes at Bush, this individual was an unbiased reporter!

103 alegrias  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:08:02am

Likewise, leftists throw pies at people like Anne Coulter.

US Media throw curveballs at the President.

In their minds they're David standing up to Goliath.

BUT they're too cowardly to confront REAL evil. Where was this shoe-tossing wimp 5 years ago on Dec. 13th, 2003 when Saddam crawled out of his spideyhole?

Licking Saddam's boots was this "reporter"'s specialty.

104 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:08:06am
105 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:08:09am

re: #86 WrathofG-d

I dunno. I got here after 9/11.


me too but I've heard them speak of the early days of Charles's blog

106 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:08:34am

These are the shoes my friend
We thought they'd never end
We'd dance and whine .....

107 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:08:46am

Meatloaf again today.

108 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:09:05am

re: #104 ploome hineni

yeah

release the shoes

Has anyone made the accused try on the shoe? If the Shoe don't fit.......

109 Opinionated  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:09:14am

What makes Muslims angry:

Cartoons
Soccer Balls
Israel
The US
Life

What makes Muslims happy:

Planes flying into buildings
Shoe tossing

110 itellu3times  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:09:30am

re: #42 CyanSnowHawk

Question about Muslim culture. What happens if Bush publicly forgives the shoe thrower?

They'd probably think he was a Christian or something.

111 tfc3rid  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:09:51am

re: #98 lifeofthemind

Is it just an appointment until the next general election? Is it for 2 years or 4?

Next Senate election in NY for that seat is 2012...

112 Golem Akbar  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:10:13am

re: #109 Opinionated

What makes Muslims angry:

Cartoons
Soccer Balls
Israel
The US
Life

What makes Muslims happy:

Planes flying into buildings
Shoe tossing

Don't forget to add: kidnapping and killing Jews.

113 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:10:13am

Is it just my imagination, or was President Bush still smiling after the first shoe? “HA! You can do better than that, Girlie Man!”

114 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:10:20am

re: #97 NYCHardhat

They may need to re-rename the Triborough Bridge after Caroline.

/Psst! Ixnay on the Idge-bray for the Ennedy-Kay.

115 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:10:27am

re: #109 Opinionated

What makes Muslims angry:

Cartoons
Soccer Balls
Israel
The US
Life

What makes Muslims happy:

Planes flying into buildings
Shoe tossing

Don't forget that Hamas was holding that people tossing contest of of Fatah buildings!

116 2by2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:10:38am

re: #109 Opinionated

What makes Muslims angry:

Cartoons
Soccer Balls
Israel
The US
Life

What makes Muslims happy:

Planes flying into buildings
Shoe tossing

Cutting off heads with knifes

117 Russkilitlover  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:10:39am

re: #107 father_of_10

Meatloaf again today.

I'm not much of a meat-loaf fan (those words just sound wrong together) but Mr. Russkilitlover loves it so I make it from time to time. I have a terrific Serbian meat loaf recipe with both ground beef and pork, and a bacon wrapping. It's actually quite tasty.

118 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:10:41am
119 itellu3times  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:10:42am

Take off your
Shoes for industry!

/firesign theater

120 Cygnus  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:10:52am

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What I wanted see was Bush catch the shoe and peg the guy with it

Stick some bacon in it first.

121 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:10:55am

re: #113 Amer-I-Can

Is it just my imagination, or was President Bush still smiling after the first shoe? “HA! You can do better than that, Girlie Man!”

You saw it right

122 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:11:09am
123 WrathofG-d  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:11:30am

Bush Is In Good Company!
(the peaceful Left?)

124 Outrider  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:11:35am

My own local paper treated the incident as a joke.

Of course, anyone who tried such a thing with Saddam Hussein would have been tortured, murdered, and dumped into a mass grave.


It would be interesting to see the perspective the Worlds press would apply to this same incident if it had been Obama on the receiving end.

We have already seen how they crucified a single individual merely for daring to question the Chosen Ones proposed tax plan.

125 jorline  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:11:51am

Muntadhar al-Zeidi, the Iraqi TV reporter, has graduated from chucking rocks at tanks to throwing shoes at a head of state...and you don't believe in evolution?

126 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:12:07am

re: #122 ploome hineni

meanwhile....get out the violins

Prince Alwaleed Loses 19% of Wealth on Global Slump
By Shaji Mathew

See, there is a silver lining to every cloud.

127 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:12:07am

re: #117 Russkilitlover

I'm not much of a meat-loaf fan (those words just sound wrong together) but Mr. Russkilitlover loves it so I make it from time to time. I have a terrific Serbian meat loaf recipe with both ground beef and pork, and a bacon wrapping. It's actually quite tasty.

Mmmm! Bacon wrapping!

128 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:12:10am

re: #111 tfc3rid

Next Senate election in NY for that seat is 2012...

Well the world's going to end then, so who cares?
/

129 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:12:44am
130 jcm  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:12:47am

re: #100 ploome hineni

yes, we won

we are better than these shit slinging moneys

now lets send them more money, and facilitate their immigration to the USA

Better than an Obama premature withdrawal.

131 ichef  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:12:50am
"If you can dodge a shoe, you can run a country."

/Patches O'Houlihan

132 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:13:07am

re: #127 CyanSnowHawk

Mmmm! Bacon wrapping!

Two greatest words in the English language!

133 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:13:09am

re: #116 2by2

Cutting off heads with knifes

Whining and Seething, it's a Twofer for Trwoofers

134 dhg4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:13:16am

re: #122 ploome hineni

meanwhile....get out the violins

Prince Alwaleed Loses 19% of Wealth on Global Slump
By Shaji Mathew

Maybe he invested with Madoff.
:-)

135 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:13:31am
136 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:13:37am

So I guess this means that Caroline Kennedy will sending her kids to NYC public schools now?

137 Prester John  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:13:55am

So much for the myth we've heard so much about over the last 7 years that Arabs/Muslims are such welcoming and hospitable hosts.

138 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:14:17am

re: #134 dhg4

LOL

139 Sunlight  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:14:38am
Of course, anyone who tried such a thing with Saddam Hussein would have been tortured, murdered, and dumped into a mass grave.

Charles, did you read Michael Totten's new post? He's such a fantastic writer, although I would love to see him do a story showing the school building that our troops do rather than them just knocking down doors. Anyway, when he went out on a mission with the guys he's embedded with, he said Baghdad feels like a different planet even than Kuwait. It seems like parallel universes where a life of dignity, work, education, etc. is irrelevant to people like the shoe thrower, who seems stuck on ego.

140 ErnieG  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:14:43am

re: #125 jorline

Muntadhar al-Zeidi, the Iraqi TV reporter, has graduated from chucking rocks at tanks to throwing shoes at a head of state...and you don't believe in evolution?

Back in the day, he would have qualified for a coveted Darwin Award.

141 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:14:52am

re: #137 Prester John

So much for the myth we've heard so much about over the last 7 years that Arabs/Muslims are such welcoming and hospitable hosts.

What . . . ? They'll even give you the shoes off their feet.

142 Outrider  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:14:55am

Has anyone stopped to think, that could easily have been a shoe bomb such as used by Richard Reid, but using an impact fuse instead.

143 Russkilitlover  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:14:55am

re: #137 Prester John

So much for the myth we've heard so much about over the last 7 years that Arabs/Muslims are such welcoming and hospitable hosts.

What are you talking about? They'll give you the shoes off their feet!

144 Solomon2  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:14:58am

“a message to Bush and all the U.S. policy makers that they have to stop killing and humiliating people.”

Has anyone ever considered that Arabs and Muslims may need more humiliation, rather than less? What is the proper amount of humility for peoples that nurture terrorists, tolerate oppressive governments, and complain all the time that they are being treated unjustly, while never considering the injustices they inflict upon others?

145 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:15:00am

Charles it is not often I call you out and say you are wrong but you made an error here!

There is zero possibility the thrower of a shoe at Saddam would have been given the privilege of even the presence of a mass grave. The body would have been left to rot where it fell and the family of the victim sent the bill for removing the smell.

Accuracy, Charles, accuracy.

146 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:15:04am
147 CapeCoddah  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:15:18am

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What I wanted see was Bush catch the shoe and peg the guy with it

Either that or see Bush go up to him while the SS had him and take off his own shoe and smack him upside the head.

148 Opinionated  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:15:22am

re: #124 Outrider

It would be interesting to see the perspective the Worlds press would apply to this same incident if it had been Obama on the receiving end.

No one is going to toss anything at Obama, if you don't count Chris Matthews tossing his panties.

149 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:15:29am

re: #131 ichef

greatest movie EVER

150 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:15:31am

re: #142 Outrider

Has anyone stopped to think, that could easily have been a shoe bomb such as used by Richard Reid, but using an impact fuse instead.

How many years were you in the Army?

151 swpaul  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:15:44am

Obviously the CIA and NSA used a catapult to launch the shoes at Bush to justify a new invasion into Candyland.

Just read the Troofer article btw.

152 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:15:45am

I have not read all the comments above, but I humbly submit that, if someone at Colombia had tossed a shoe at Dinnerjacket when he was there, that person would be a hero to LGFers.

153 alegrias  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:15:51am

re: #124 Outrider

My own local paper treated the incident as a joke.

It would be interesting to see the perspective the Worlds press would apply to this same incident if it had been Obama on the receiving end.

We have already seen how they crucified a single individual merely for daring to question the Chosen Ones proposed tax plan.

* * *
Exactly. Joe the Plumber (and his records) was "investigated" by the whole state of Ohio's leftist-machine-with-fake-day-jobs distributing other people's money. For politely asking a question of a politician standing in Joe's front yard!

154 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:16:00am

re: #45 FurryOldGuyJeans

Actually he acknowledged all SIXTY states! He sad he'd been to 57, wasn't sure which one he'd missed-and then said he wasn't including Hawaii or Alaska (since they aren't contiguous). So he did remember ALL 60 states......:>).

155 Sunlight  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:16:11am

Here's Michael Totten's link:

[Link: www.michaeltotten.com...]

156 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:16:14am
Of course, anyone who tried such a thing with Saddam Hussein would have been tortured, murdered, and dumped into a mass grave.

Actually, Saddam adhered to the Hama rules.

A threat to him meant you killed the poor soul's family. His extended family. His village. Every last remnant of his line of existence. The moment you allow a moment of dissent such as this, you lost face. You lost power.

He did this time and time again. Murdered hundreds of thousands.

He made fathers watch their children die. He made wives watch their husbands murdered. He made husbands watch their wives get raped.

He was a barbarian and he was cruel. He was a dictator.

This guy is a fan of Che Guevara and socialist dictators. He's been held by the US on suspicions of being in with the insurgency. He's been kidnapped by the terrorists. He's got a beef, and he had his chance.

And he missed.

Yes, I know that the Secret Service should have done a better job and never let this guy get anywhere near him. But while the media hails this guy as a hero, I wonder just how many of these so-called journalists would get up and toss shoes at Bashar Assad, Hosni Mubarak; Nasrallah; the Saudi leaders; Ahamdinejad and the mad mullahs; or any of the other so called leaders of the Arab world.

It wouldn't happen - precisely because they know what the consequences would be. It would be a death sentence. That all that this guy is facing is a jail sentence, if that, tells you all you need to know about the depravity of the Arab world. They just don't get that freedom of speech and the ability to get up and insult the most powerful man on the world is an inalienable right, but if you even look at a dictator crossways, you'll end up in a plastic shredder.

Just ask the families destroyed by Saddam at Dujail.

157 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:16:17am

re: #146 ploome hineni

a friend of mine lost 4 mil with Madoff

I wish I had friends who could loose 4 mil? Just saying?

158 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:16:29am

re: #140 ErnieG

Back in the day, he would have qualified for a coveted Darwin Award.

My favorite: Living on Zionist Time.

159 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:16:33am

re: #13 gop_patriot

I get so sick and tired of hearing these morons whine about being "humiliated". Waah, waah, waaaaahhhh.

I've read many times, in different contexts, that whining is systemic in Arab culture (along with dissembling).

The grandfather of the present King of Jordan wrote in his memoirs, regarding claims being made in his day that Zionists were stealing Palestinian land:
"It is made quite clear to all, both by the map drawn up by the Simpson Commission and another compiled by the Peel Commission, that the Arabs are as prodigal in selling their land as they are in useless wailing and weeping."

The Arabs have raised this kind of crap to a World-class art-form.

160 itellu3times  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:16:35am

re: #152 DeafDog

I have not read all the comments above, but I humbly submit that, if someone at Colombia had tossed a shoe at Dinnerjacket when he was there, that person would be a hero to LGFers.

We're Americans, and expect the shoe to hit.

161 Russkilitlover  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:16:53am

re: #148 Opinionated

No one is going to toss anything at Obama, if you don't count Chris Matthews tossing his panties.

ROTFLMAO!

162 Killgore Trout  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:16:53am

Raw Video - Update - Hundreds demonstrate in Basra to support arrested shoe throwing journalist

Notice that the protesters are guarded by coalition (probably American) troops?

163 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:17:03am

re: #143 Russkilitlover

What are you talking about? They'll give you the shoes off their feet!

GMTA

164 Sizzlack  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:17:07am

Coming soon to Baghdad... from the producers of 'So You Think You Can Dance?'...

'So You Think You Can Hit the President of the United States with Your Shoes?'

It's gonna be a huge hit in Iraq, on TV right after No Law & No Order.

165 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:17:07am
166 taejohndo  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:17:15am

re: #117 Russkilitlover

I'm not much of a meat-loaf fan (those words just sound wrong together) but Mr. Russkilitlover loves it so I make it from time to time. I have a terrific Serbian meat loaf recipe with both ground beef and pork, and a bacon wrapping. It's actually quite tasty.

A recipie for meatloaf? Who a tunhk it! I just use -- stuff. Sometimes this, sometimes that. It is never bad, always good and often great.

167 alegrias  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:17:20am

re: #125 jorline

Muntadhar al-Zeidi, the Iraqi TV reporter, has graduated from chucking rocks at tanks to throwing shoes at a head of state...and you don't believe in evolution?

* * *
Good one. That's definite proof right there~

168 Outrider  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:17:39am

re: #150 Nevergiveup

How many years were you in the Army?

21. Why?

169 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:17:43am

re: #122 ploome hineni

meanwhile....get out the violins

Prince Alwaleed Loses 19% of Wealth on Global Slump
By Shaji Mathew

Check out the list of his investments, think of a Why?
Apple Computer
Citicorp
News Corp
Motorola
AOL
Disney

170 Cygnus  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:17:46am

re: #116 2by2

Cutting off heads with knives

Dull knives.

171 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:17:50am

re: #122 ploome hineni

And the "crash" on oil prices ain't doing a lot to the bottom line for quite a few other dictatorial autocrats either.

172 JacksonTn  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:17:52am

re: #55 tfc3rid

OT:

Caroline Kennedy will be given Hillary's Seante seat... Way to go Gov. Patterson!

Will of the people, my ass...

Disgusting ...they might as well go ahead and name the White House ...The Chicago Outfit Compound ...it will be full of thugs ...every dang appointment that has been made is a payback ...this has been the most disgusting, vile, election that I can remember ...

All you need to do is go back through the primary process endorsements and you could have made up Obama's picks with one exception ...John Edwards and we all know how that turned out ..all the endorsements were planned to the minute ...

Caroline Kennedy I guess approves of Obama's friend William Ayers and his mention of her uncle's killer in his book ...

Spit on all of them ....

173 swamprat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:18:33am

He should run for office.
He'd be a shoe in.

174 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:19:22am

re: #168 Outrider

21. Why?

Well the explosives in the shoe thing was more detailed than normal. And I was joking. Shit I'm only in the Navy, I had to look it up.

175 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:19:55am

re: #117 Russkilitlover

I'm not much of a meat-loaf fan (those words just sound wrong together) but Mr. Russkilitlover loves it so I make it from time to time. I have a terrific Serbian meat loaf recipe with both ground beef and pork, and a bacon wrapping. It's actually quite tasty.

About 10 days ago it was "Ye Olde Style Meat Loaf" I can't say that today's meta loaf is any different from Ye Olde Style. Green peppers in this one. Better than the mutton stew and frybread that was on Friday.

176 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:20:03am

re: #169 lifeofthemind

Check out the list of his investments, think of a Why?
Apple Computer
Citicorp
News Corp
Motorola
AOL
Disney

Diversification of a trust obviously

177 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:20:11am

re: #162 Killgore Trout

Raw Video - Update - Hundreds demonstrate in Basra to support arrested shoe throwing journalist

Notice that the protesters are guarded by coalition (probably American) troops?

And this is in BASRA, for cryin' out loud, which suffered enormously under Saddam! The irony utterly escapes these politicized assholes.

178 jcm  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:20:26am

re: #142 Outrider

Has anyone stopped to think, that could easily have been a shoe bomb such as used by Richard Reid, but using an impact fuse instead.

I would hope security would be a little better. And think it probably is.

Operationally, harder. The GWB visit was no notice. The reporters where probably told a presser was being given. That GWB was going to be there told them after they were assembled. An assassin would have to be ready 24/7 on the chance he gets called to a meeting with the POTUS.

But, yes it's possible. It's very hard to defend against an assassin who is willing to die in the attempt.

GWB went to Baghdad knowing the risks.

179 Right mind left  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:20:27am

re: #173 swamprat

He should run for office.
He'd be a shoe in.

Makes it easier for him to put his foot in his mouth...

180 nyc redneck  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:20:45am

what a thankless s.o.b.
and now revered by other thankless s.o.b.'s
i hope there are a few people in iraq who appreciate that pres. bush took a monster from their midst.

181 Russkilitlover  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:20:54am

re: #163 Creeping Eruption

GMTA

Your mind is 3 seconds faster than mine this am!

182 alegrias  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:21:18am

re: #152 DeafDog

I have not read all the comments above, but I humbly submit that, if someone at Colombia had tossed a shoe at Dinnerjacket when he was there, that person would be a hero to LGFers.

* * *
It is deaf & dumb to equate President Bush and Ahmedinejad, in my opinion.

The latter deserves condemnation while President Bush is a liberator and force for good on the planet.

183 SWPaul  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:21:28am

re: #152 DeafDog

I'd just be reminded of Austin Powers (first movie) with Random Task throwing his shoe into Austin's forehead.

"Ow, that really hurt! Who throws a shoe? Honestly!"

It's a ridiculous situation no matter who, what, where, whatever.

184 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:21:38am

re: #142 Outrider
extremely good point!

185 rwmofo  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:21:42am

I thought that after watching the first couple GWB press conferences back in 2001, the Secret Service would have put David Gregory & Katie Couric masks on and practiced this.

186 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:22:34am

re: #182 alegrias

* * *
It is deaf & dumb to equate President Bush and Ahmedinejad, in my opinion.

The latter deserves condemnation while President Bush is a liberator and force for good on the planet.

ditto

187 Cygnus  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:22:45am

re: #151 swpaul

Obviously the CIA and NSA used a catapult to launch the shoes at Bush to justify a new invasion into Candyland.

Just read the Troofer article btw.

Just like Zimbabwe blaming 'The West' for its cholera epidemic.

188 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:22:48am

re: #162 Killgore Trout

Raw Video - Update - Hundreds demonstrate in Basra to support arrested shoe throwing journalist

Notice that the protesters are guarded by coalition (probably American) troops?

Leftoids doing out-reach so as to get the proper anti American Imperialism feel to the whole event.

189 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:22:48am

re: #185 rwmofo

I thought that after watching the first couple GWB press conferences back in 2001, the Secret Service would have put David Gregory & Katie Couric masks on and practiced this.

I bet Gregory throws like a girl, not so sure about Couric?

190 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:22:53am

re: #176 FurryOldGuyJeans

Diversification of a trust obviously

Technology and Media, influence over a social sector, beyond a strictly financial investment.

191 jorline  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:22:57am

re: #122 ploome hineni

meanwhile....get out the violins

And the Europeans call us stupid?

Top banks admit huge losses in Wall Street 'pyramid' fraud.

British, French, Japanese and Spanish banks and funds said investments totaling billions of dollars (euros) could be wiped off their balance sheets by a scandal that is set to affect some of the richest people in the world.

1. Royal Bank of Scotland said it could lose about 400 million pounds (598 million dollars, 444 million euros).
2. France's Natixis investment bank, already brought low by subprime losses, put its maximum exposure at 450 million euros (606 million dollars).
3. Japanese financial giant Nomura said it could lose up to 303 million dollars and officials in South Korea said financial institutions there a total exposure of some 95 million dollars to Madoff's scandal-hit investment scheme.
4. Shares in Santander, the biggest bank in Spain and the second largest in Europe after HSBC , plunged after the lender said it had an exposure of more than three billion dollars to Madoff Investment Securities in New York.

I'm sure there were guarantee's to beach front property in Arizona to those European banks as well.

192 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:23:04am

re: #160 itellu3times

We're Americans, and expect the shoe to hit.

I would have connected my size 12's Florsheims right on the nogg'n.

193 Outrider  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:23:30am

re: #174 Nevergiveup

Well the explosives in the shoe thing was more detailed than normal. And I was joking. Shit I'm only in the Navy, I had to look it up.

My point was when something like this is done, no one knows if it is just a shoe or possibly an explosive device. It could be either. It could even of had acid in there.

Reporters go through metal detectors and are searched, but unlike airports, I've never seen them have to remove their shoes for inspection prior to a press conference.

194 davinvalkri  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:23:42am

re: #2 simonml

My head just went Scanners on me.
Seriously, WTF are these guys doing cheering Mr. Shoe-tosser to the heavens? Is Bush that eeeeeeeevil?!

195 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:24:01am
196 WrathofG-d  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:24:09am

re: #162 Killgore Trout

Raw Video - Update - Hundreds demonstrate in Basra to support arrested shoe throwing journalist

Notice that the protesters are guarded by coalition (probably American) troops?

If that is true, that is moronic. They are supporting someone that just attacked our President and their CIC. This is not "speech" we have to personally protect. It just furthers the Worlds belief that we are confused, weak, and should be attacked. We no longer have any deterrence factor

197 Cygnus  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:24:28am

re: #148 Opinionated

No one is going to toss anything at Obama, if you don't count Chris Matthews tossing his panties.

They could toss waffles.

198 jcm  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:24:30am

re: #183 SWPaul

I'd just be reminded of Austin Powers (first movie) with Random Task throwing his shoe into Austin's forehead.

"Ow, that really hurt! Who throws a shoe? Honestly!"

It's a ridiculous situation no matter who, what, where, whatever.

Culturally it is significant. Remember the Iraqi's pounding on the Saddam statue with their shoes? It's a sign of contempt.

The closest culture analog we would have is to hock a big loogie in someones face.

199 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:24:31am
200 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:24:37am
201 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:24:48am

re: #193 Outrider

My point was when something like this is done, no one knows if it is just a shoe or possibly an explosive device. It could be either. It could even of had acid in there.

Reporters go through metal detectors and are searched, but unlike airports, I've never seen them have to remove their shoes for inspection prior to a press conference.

I agree with you 100%. The first shoe I can kinda understand but not the second. And why was Bush's main body man so far away?

202 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:24:59am

re: #183 SWPaul

I'd just be reminded of Austin Powers (first movie) with Random Task throwing his shoe into Austin's forehead.

"Ow, that really hurt! Who throws a shoe? Honestly!"

It's a ridiculous situation no matter who, what, where, whatever.

Funny

203 rwmofo  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:25:08am

Now I wonder if the Secret Service is going to start making Sam Donaldson remove that thing on his head for closer inspection.

204 jcm  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:25:12am

re: #187 Cygnus

Just like Zimbabwe blaming 'The West' for its cholera epidemic.

The cure in Zimbabwe comes in 7.62.......

205 SWPaul  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:25:13am

re: #187 Cygnus

Funny, I've been accusing Zimbabwe of causing the flu in the United States.
/obvs not

206 ErnieG  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:25:18am

I'll bet Helen Thomas is just eating her heart out.

207 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:25:19am
208 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:25:39am

re: #201 Nevergiveup

I agree with you 100%. The first shoe I can kinda understand but not the second. And why was Bush's main body man so far away?

The thrower should have been halfway to dead before he fully stood up.

209 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:25:40am

re: #160 itellu3times

We're Americans, and expect the shoe to hit.

Are you suggesting we have a shoe gap!?!

210 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:25:40am

re: #39 Venezuela lover

I wouldn't have touched that smelly clodhopper for all the virgins in paradise.

211 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:25:48am

re: #203 rwmofo

Now I wonder if the Secret Service is going to start making Sam Donaldson remove that thing on his head for closer inspection.

It's some kind of dead animal isn't it?

212 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:25:59am
213 Racer X  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:26:11am

re: #162 Killgore Trout

Raw Video - Update - Hundreds demonstrate in Basra to support arrested shoe throwing journalist

Notice that the protesters are guarded by coalition (probably American) troops?

First shoe wizzes by. Loud bang. Everyone hits the deck. President whisked out of the room by SS detail. Dead man wearing one shoe is later removed from the room.

Message sent loud and clear.

214 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:26:15am

re: #152 DeafDog

I have not read all the comments above, but I humbly submit that, if someone at Colombia had tossed a shoe at Dinnerjacket when he was there, that person would be a hero to LGFers.

I would have considered the person an idiot as well. Attacking someone is not to be applauded, unless it is a sanctioned military op.

215 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:26:25am

re: #198 jcm

Culturally it is significant. Remember the Iraqi's pounding on the Saddam statue with their shoes? It's a sign of contempt.

The closest culture analog we would have is to hock a big loogie in someones face.

or Nikita at the UN?....hmmmm

216 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:26:42am

re: #207 buzzsawmonkey

Madoff made off with the money?

Did he have a partner, Ripoff?

217 Dianna  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:26:43am

re: #146 ploome hineni

a friend of mine lost 4 mil with Madoff

I thought the minimum buy-in was $10 million?

218 alegrias  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:26:59am

re: #156 lawhawk

* * *
All I need to know about Saddam H. I learned when he gassed 5,000 Halabjans in 1988.

Colin Powell and many others weren't up to the task of confronting genociders then OR now.

Thank you Mr. President for finally removing the shame of our having looked the other way when Saddam used biological weapons on his own subjects.

219 bulwrk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:27:03am

re: #160 itellu3times

Seriously after he ducked one shoe any American would have known to pump fake first with the second

220 Russkilitlover  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:27:03am

re: #175 father_of_10

About 10 days ago it was "Ye Olde Style Meat Loaf" I can't say that today's meta loaf is any different from Ye Olde Style. Green peppers in this one. Better than the mutton stew and frybread that was on Friday.

Mmmmmm. I actually like mutton stew and, especially, frybread. Are you in the Four Corners area?

221 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:27:04am
222 Cygnus  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:27:21am

re: #194 davinvalkri

My head just went Scanners on me.
Seriously, WTF are these guys doing cheering Mr. Shoe-tosser to the heavens? Is Bush that eeeeeeeevil?!

Actually, he was trying out for the Iraqi shot put team. I think he set a national record with that second toss.

223 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:27:22am

re: #217 Dianna

I thought the minimum buy-in was $10 million?

And you only had 9 million?

224 gregg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:27:29am

Oh my, another day another investigation.

Grand Jury Probes Richardson Donor’s New Mexico Financing Fee

The grand jury in Albuquerque is looking into Beverly Hills, California-based CDR Financial Products Inc., which received almost $1.5 million in fees from the New Mexico Finance Authority in 2004 after donating $100,000 to Richardson’s efforts to register Hispanic and American Indian voters and pay for expenses at the Democratic National Convention in 2004, people familiar with the matter said.

225 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:27:44am
226 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:28:03am

re: #219 bulwrk

Seriously after he ducked one shoe any American would have known to pump fake first with the second

That's good

227 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:28:15am

re: #219 bulwrk

Seriously after he ducked one shoe any American would have known to pump fake first with the second

HAAAA!...excellent!

228 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:28:29am

re: #190 lifeofthemind

Technology and Media, influence over a social sector, beyond a strictly financial investment.

Hollywood would embrace the new paradigm that Wahabi Islam would bring to the place.

229 jcm  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:28:29am

re: #212 ploome hineni

no! the closest is a herd of shit slinging monkeys

ROFL!

I keep one of those in my pocket should I ever meet Rabbit Bait.

230 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:28:33am

Any Iraqi who is celebrting this is a fucking ingrate.

231 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:28:54am

re: #227 albusteve

HAAAA!...excellent!

Congrats on your victory last night. I fell asleep.

232 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:29:02am

re: #182 alegrias

re: #183 SWPaul


I did not compare Bush and Dinnerjacket. You did. I compared the reaction to people if a shoe got tossed at them.

233 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:29:13am
234 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:29:23am

re: #230 MandyManners

Any Iraqi who is celebrting this is a fucking ingrate.

The country's full of em!

235 alegrias  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:29:44am

re: #171 FurryOldGuyJeans

And the "crash" on oil prices ain't doing a lot to the bottom line for quite a few other dictatorial autocrats either.

* * *
Hurray! Let's drill here & drill now, keep our petrodollars for oil invested anywhere BUT the Caliphate.

236 Russkilitlover  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:29:48am

re: #230 MandyManners

Any Iraqi who is celebrting this is a fucking ingrate.

Good morning, Sunshine! :D

237 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:29:53am

re: #230 MandyManners

Any Iraqi who is celebrting this is a fucking ingrate.

These are arabs we're talking about.

238 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:30:26am

re: #231 Nevergiveup

Congrats on your victory last night. I fell asleep.

did you see that hit I put on Manning?....I also caught two TDs....you need some No-Doz

239 joncelli  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:30:27am

OT: Mac-using lizards should hit Software Update, since version 10.5.6 is now out. Download size varies depending on your system.

240 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:30:31am

re: #220 Russkilitlover

Mmmmmm. I actually like mutton stew and, especially, frybread. Are you in the Four Corners area?

About 100 miles due south and 20 miles east.

241 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:30:44am

re: #219 bulwrk

Seriously after he ducked one shoe any American would have known to pump fake first with the second

Wouldn't it have been a hoot if Bush had caught the second shoe, and thrown it back?

242 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:30:45am

re: #235 alegrias

* * *
Hurray! Let's drill here & drill now, keep our petrodollars for oil invested anywhere BUT the Caliphate.

Our Holy Messiah-King will issue the 11th Commandment against doing that.

243 ErnieG  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:30:53am

re: #215 albusteve

or Nikita at the UN?....hmmmm

There's a bit of a cultural difference between the two. Throwing or pointing shoes is a sign of contempt in the Arab world. For a Russian to take his shoes off, as Khrushchev did, is to show dominance, that he is the "man of the house."

244 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:31:51am

re: #230 MandyManners

Any Iraqi who is celebrting this is a fucking ingrate.

They sure have learned the Leftoid lessons on gratitude well.

245 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:31:55am

OT repost from previous dead thread:

But what we have to fear most is the creeping Islamisation, the stealth jihad. Because every Islamic neighbourhood, every Islamic shop, every mosque, every Islamic school, every burqa, every veil is regarded by many Muslims as building blocks towards a larger goal, towards domination.
...
It will become reality if we don’t act now……….
- Geert Wilders, Facing Jihad Conference
Dec.14, 2008, Jerusalem


This is a page out of Goebbels' play-book - naked fear-mongering, without any pretence and without bothering to focus in on Islamist terrorism, violence or any aberrant behaviour. Wilders simply labels every single activity engaged in by Muslims, legal or otherwise, as evidence of the Muslim plot to dominate the Netherlands.

As seductive as the message may be, it just can't be the right approach.

246 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:32:11am

re: #241 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Wouldn't it have been a hoot if Bush had caught the second shoe, and thrown it back?

The first one looked like a change up. The second one looked more like high heat but outa the zone. "Just a tad ouside"

247 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:33:08am

re: #203 rwmofo

Now I wonder if the Secret Service is going to start making Sam Donaldson remove that thing on his head for closer inspection.

He can't do that, it would expose his Romulan roots.

248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:33:30am

So Vegan Boy and I go to see "The Day the Earth Stood Still" today. At the end, before the aliens leave all of the electric/motorized/manufacturing stuff disabled.

Credits are rolling, Vegan Boy looks at me and says,

"We have taked ur lektrisiteez."

Great. LOL Aliens.

249 bulwrk  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:33:33am

re: #241 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I believe President Bush played some baseball back in the day and would have beaned him pretty good.

250 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:33:46am

re: #202 DeafDog

Funny

In Jr High we had a teacher music who would throw her baton at us when she got mad at us (always for good cause, I might add). So one day she throws her baton at my stand mate and misses so he celebrates by turning to give me a high five -- she caught him full on the face with the heel of the shoe she threw at him -- his nose bursts open and I burst laughing. We never said a word to anyone about it -- our parents would have killed us if they found out we pissed off a teacher so much she felt the need to throw her shoe at us.

251 Dianna  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:34:10am

re: #223 Nevergiveup

And you only had 9 million?

I'd have actually read the prospectus!

252 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:34:18am

re: #246 Nevergiveup

The first one looked like a change up. The second one looked more like high heat but outa the zone. "Just a tad ouside"

Yeah, realized that when I wrote the first post ... but the fantasy was still great.

253 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:34:34am

Not that I think it will happen, but I wouldn't be shocked if someone else (an American at some speaking engagement here in the States) threw a shoe at Bush before his term expires. The Lefty kooks love emulating crap like that and them making it into some sort of "solidarity" gesture with that Iraqi grub is not beyond them.

254 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:34:39am

re: #241 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Wouldn't it have been a hoot if Bush had caught the second shoe, and thrown it back?

The MSM would have erupted in absolute fury about the cowboy attacking a simple Iraqi just using their new-found freedom to peacefully protest an Evil Imperialist Demagogue bent on converting the world to his twisted religion.

255 alegrias  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:34:43am

re: #195 ploome hineni

Bloomberg thinks Khoury lives in palestine

****
Some Khourys sold pizza in Fairfax, Virginia in the 1970s--they're moving up in the world! Who says Pizza delivery doesn't pay!

256 Dianna  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:34:43am

re: #225 ploome hineni

she had been invested with him for 10 or 15 years

Poor thing!

257 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:34:49am

re: #243 ErnieG

There's a bit of a cultural difference between the two. Throwing or pointing shoes is a sign of contempt in the Arab world. For a Russian to take his shoes off, as Khrushchev did, is to show dominance, that he is the "man of the house."

I know but it seems like there must be some Freudian similarities....using shoes to convey emotion is just bizarre...

258 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:35:02am

re: #251 Dianna

I'd have actually read the prospectus!

What clause spoke about the ponzi part?
/

259 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:35:08am

re: #249 bulwrk

I believe President Bush played some baseball back in the day and would have beaned him pretty good.

*grin*

260 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:35:43am

I think its obvious what we're all thinking here:

"Good shoe. Goodbye, Mr. Bush."

261 maddogg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:35:44am

Bush should have thrown a hand grenade back.

262 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:35:54am

re: #249 bulwrk

I believe President Bush played some baseball back in the day and would have beaned him pretty good.


Do you remember the World Seies right after 9-11 when Bush threw out the first pitch and it was a strike?

263 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:35:59am

re: #152 DeafDog

Not a good comparison at all.

American blood is being spilled for Iraq, and some shit-for-brains Iraqi throws a shoe at your President and commander in chief. It is not possible to make ANY COMPARISON whatsoever to if someone had managed to throw anything at Iran's Murderous Messianical Jihadi Mahdi Nuclear Shrimp Stinky Nazi Ahmedinejad.

264 SWPaul  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:36:13am

re: #232 DeafDog

I wasn't either, just making a joke.

265 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:36:14am

re: #253 Lincolntf

Not that I think it will happen, but I wouldn't be shocked if someone else (an American at some speaking engagement here in the States) threw a shoe at Bush before his term expires. The Lefty kooks love emulating crap like that and them making it into some sort of "solidarity" gesture with that Iraqi grub is not beyond them.

You are full of crap. When has anything like that ever happenned?

266 opnion  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:36:41am

What I want to know is, what now happens to the shoe thrower.
Does he get a little jail time, a fine or heros treatment by the Iraqi government?

267 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:36:51am

re: #262 HoosierHoops

Do you remember the World Seies right after 9-11 when Bush threw out the first pitch and it was a strike?

Perfect strike. And with body armour on also. And from the Rubber, no cheating.

268 Sunlight  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:37:08am
269 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:37:15am

re: #122 ploome hineni

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

/spit

270 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:37:23am
271 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:37:35am

re: #265 Spare O'Lake

When has what happened? I'm talking about something that could happen.

272 alegrias  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:37:52am

re: #201 Nevergiveup

I agree with you 100%. The first shoe I can kinda understand but not the second. And why was Bush's main body man so far away?

* * *
There's better security at sports events where security FACES the crowd.

Why weren't there security guards facing the press? Third world security.

Bless President Bush's courage to go into these ratholes.

273 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:37:55am

re: #270 ploome hineni

he worked for an Egyptian peper , I think

I think it is an iraqi paper but he is the correspondent in Cario.

274 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:38:18am

re: #261 maddogg

Bush should have thrown a hand grenade back.

We need a President who knows how to use a switchblade.

275 Dianna  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:38:18am

re: #245 Spare O'Lake

OT repost from previous dead thread:


This is a page out of Goebbels' play-book - naked fear-mongering, without any pretence and without bothering to focus in on Islamist terrorism, violence or any aberrant behaviour. Wilders simply labels every single activity engaged in by Muslims, legal or otherwise, as evidence of the Muslim plot to dominate the Netherlands.

As seductive as the message may be, it just can't be the right approach.

I'm sorry, but every burka is a sign that the entire family is refusing to assimilate. Every "Islamic" whatever is a sign of intolerance and exclusion.

The insistence must be on assimilation and tolerance. Anything less is a disaster.

276 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:38:22am

re: #261 maddogg

Bush should have thrown a hand grenade back.

What is he were armed like Jesse Ventura was when he was Gov. of Minnesota?

277 Dianna  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:38:38am

re: #258 Nevergiveup

What clause spoke about the ponzi part?
/

The promise of better than 10% returns.

278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:38:48am

re: #265 Spare O'Lake

Don't think Linc was saying it has happened. Is saying some nut job might do it showing "solidarity". Didn't see anything wrong with that post.

279 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:39:18am

Oh, now I think I get it. You mean the emulating thing. After Hugo called Bush "Satan", the kooks in Boston began painting devil horns on their anti-Bush signs for one.

280 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:39:21am

re: #266 opnion

What I want to know is, what now happens to the shoe thrower.
Does he get a little jail time, a fine or heros treatment by the Iraqi government?

all that plus Leno, SNL, and a date with Obbie...you know the routine

281 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:39:35am

re: #261 maddogg

Bush should have thrown a hand grenade back.

He did the right thing in laughing it off.

282 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:39:48am

re: #270 ploome hineni

Fantastic. Let the Egyptians fork over the massive foreign aid they get from the US. Then see how effing funny Mr. Shoe thrower is.

283 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:40:06am

re: #274 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We need a President who knows how to use a switchblade.

we will soon enough

284 Adrenalyn  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:40:30am

cast blame where it truly lies in this episode

squarely with American media
for inciting hatred of Bush, and with it, America

sure, Bush was a dreadful President
but Carter is worst
and Clinton still second worst

but Bush really was almost made bad by the constant media bashing

though he earned it by not standing up for himself, in a way
that turn the other cheek nonsense is just plain wrong

285 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:40:36am
286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:40:39am
287 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:40:49am
288 ErnieG  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:40:51am

re: #257 albusteve

I know but it seems like there must be some Freudian similarities....using shoes to convey emotion is just bizarre...

True, but many of our social customs seem bizarre on close examination. I can raise my thumb like this, and it signifies approval, but if I raise this finger I risk getting punched in the nose.

289 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:40:59am

re: #272 alegrias

* * *
There's better security at sports events where security FACES the crowd.

Why weren't there security guards facing the press? Third world security.

Bless President Bush's courage to go into these ratholes.


The O wants to give a major speech in a Muslum capitol. Let's see how that goes. And how what ever happens is reported.

290 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:41:02am

re: #285 ploome hineni

I know...but a gal can dream, can't she?

291 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:41:24am
292 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:41:41am

re: #287 buzzsawmonkey

If he had thrown a pair of Pradas, I wouda killed him.

/

293 Russkilitlover  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:41:59am

re: #240 father_of_10

About 100 miles due south and 20 miles east.

Looks like we'll be sending you a nice dousing female rain in the next day or so.

294 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:42:44am

re: #288 ErnieG

True, but many of our social customs seem bizarre on close examination. I can raise my thumb like this, and it signifies approval, but if I raise this finger I risk getting punched in the nose.

well I'm a bigot so they can just fuck off with their idiotic shoe BS...jus sayin

295 swamprat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:42:54am

re: #162 Killgore Trout
Not very animated;

"Hey,hey,
It's OK,
We were gonna sleep in anyway."

296 alegrias  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:43:42am

re: #232 DeafDog

re: #183 SWPaul


I did not compare Bush and Dinnerjacket. You did. I compared the reaction to people if a shoe got tossed at them.

* * *
My point was that in a reasonable universe, sane people would agree one deserves contempt, the other does not.

297 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:44:18am

re: #271 Lincolntf

When has what happened? I'm talking about something that could happen.

When has anything ever happened on which you could reasonably base such a wildly unfounded bit of stupid speculation?
You are full of shit.

298 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:45:29am

re: #295 swamprat

Not very animated;

What do we want?

Something

When do we want it?

Whenever you can get around to it, no rush

299 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:45:56am

re: #263 WriterMom

You are comparing Dinnerjacket and Bush. I have no disagreement there and I appreciate the outrage. I hope this guy gets to go to prison for a few years to think about his unfortunatly bad decision.

That said, let's assume that the shoe was on the other foot, so to say. What if - in a moment of outrage - someone threw a shoe at Dinnerjacket when he was here? I could understand the emotion that led to that. That person, I would think, would get their 15 minutes of fame and get to do a few TV shows. Maybe they'd get to write a "Why I threw a Shoe" editorial that the NYT would actually publish.

300 Age Of Freedom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:46:12am

“Bush, Bush, listen well: Two shoes on your head”.
That chant represents the very essence of the most retarded backward ghoulish society in the known universe.

301 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:46:52am

re: #297 Spare O'Lake

You are certifiable. And you have a filthy mouth. Grow the eff up.

302 dhg4  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:46:57am

re: #146 ploome hineni

a friend of mine lost 4 mil with Madoff

Sorry. I saw some irony in the two stories. I guess it wasn't something to joke about.

My alma mater (YU) lost a huge amount too.

303 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:47:06am
304 WriterMom  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:47:17am

re: #299 DeafDog

I can't say I would be sad if he got clobbered or WORSE in America, but it's not the kind of activism I would recommend. I would have prefered that he never be allowed to taint the ground of your country.

305 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:47:31am

re: #283 albusteve

we will soon enough

I doubt that. The One strikes me as a pansy.

You sure as hell don't learn that sort of thing at Punahoe. I took a high school summer-school class there.

306 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:47:36am

re: #253 Lincolntf

One problem for the thrower, though. Here in the USA, the thrower will be guilty of a Federal Crime-assaulting the President-and will do time as a felon.

307 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:47:49am

re: #297 Spare O'Lake

When has anything ever happened on which you could reasonably base such a wildly unfounded bit of stupid speculation?
You are full of shit.

oh please...

308 alegrias  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:49:13am

re: #274 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We need a President who knows how to use a switchblade.

* * *
President Bush was left to defend himself with spitballs.

Heads should roll.

309 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:49:27am

Lucky the POTUS never played soccer!
I'd have moved into it and played back off my forehead!
" Yea! I meant to do that!"

310 DeafDog  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:49:45am

re: #304 WriterMom

I can't say I would be sad if he got clobbered or WORSE in America, but it's not the kind of activism I would recommend. I would have prefered that he never be allowed to taint the ground of your country.

Believe me, I'm not advocating that either.

I'm just trying to understand the psyche of the Arab world that gives this guy celebrity.

311 SummerSong  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:49:55am

"Wafa Khayat, 48, a doctor in the West Bank town of Nablus, called the attack “a message to Bush and all the U.S. policy makers that they have to stop killing and humiliating people.” ..."

Tell me again who needs to stop killing people, Wafa?

*throws .02 at Wafa's head and tells him to buy a clue*

312 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:49:59am

re: #305 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I doubt that. The One strikes me as a pansy.

You sure as hell don't learn that sort of thing at Punahoe. I took a high school summer-school class there.

youre right...he'd just whip out some pissy indignation....maybe toss a blush sponge...

313 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:50:10am

re: #306 Pietr

Yeah, it seems unlikely (as I noted in my original post), but some of these Kos-types don't seem to mind getting locked up every once in a while.

314 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:51:01am

re: #301 Lincolntf

You are certifiable. And you have a filthy mouth. Grow the eff up.

ROFLMAO!

/*spit*

315 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:51:44am

re: #308 alegrias

* * *
President Bush was left to defend himself with spitballs.

Heads should roll.

didnt he wave off his SS guys...seems I read that but I could be wrong

316 alegrias  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:52:17am

re: #289 TaeJohnDo

The O wants to give a major speech in a Muslum capitol. Let's see how that goes. And how what ever happens is reported.

* * *
It'll be like the Berlin Speech with more fawning & plaster Caliphate symbols.

317 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:52:47am

re: #275 Dianna

I'm sorry, but every burka is a sign that the entire family is refusing to assimilate. Every "Islamic" whatever is a sign of intolerance and exclusion.

The insistence must be on assimilation and tolerance. Anything less is a disaster.

OK Dianna, the burkas bother me too, and perhaps the solution is to ban them in schools, banks, subways and certain other sensitive public places. But the other stuff - Islamic shops, Mosques, etc. - is just normal stuff that should not be blackballed. And yes, assimilation and tolerance must be promoted. I do not understand why the numbers of Muslim immigrants cannot be reduced or curtailed in order to allow the host country to digest what they already have.

318 Opinionated  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:53:09am

re: #61 Nevergiveup

Fox news just reported that Caroline Kennedy WILL now seek Hilliary's seat? Well hell she has about as much experience as out President Elect?

In a way, I see this as even worse then Illinois.

With Kennedy wanting the position, and the power of that family, Gov. Paterson will be committing political suicide if he doesn't give it to her.

Extortion in the first degree.

319 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:53:28am

re: #315 albusteve

didnt he wave off his SS guys...seems I read that but I could be wrong

Have you watched the video of the incident?

320 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:53:49am

re: #306 Pietr

Fuck that. I'd kick the living shit out of him, then vacate the premises. instead of jail, he can cool his heels in the ER.

321 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:53:55am
322 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:54:10am

re: #319 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Have you watched the video of the incident?

no...I will tho

323 Pietr  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:55:09am

re: #315 albusteve

Only after shoe #2. But the protective detail would have been cautioned about drawing weapons, unless GWB's life were in certain danger. It was a diplomatic meet-n-greet, plus press conference.

324 gop_patriot  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:56:37am

re: #279 Lincolntf

Oh, now I think I get it. You mean the emulating thing. After Hugo called Bush "Satan", the kooks in Boston began painting devil horns on their anti-Bush signs for one.

I agree with your first post, and was just thinking of all the Code Pink whackos and how they like to interrupt meetings and such. I wouldn't put it past them at all to try something like that either... they're not very original, so they copy. lol

325 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:56:57am

re: #278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't think Linc was saying it has happened. Is saying some nut job might do it showing "solidarity". Didn't see anything wrong with that post.

I just think it's over the top to compare that Iraqi asshole reporter to the American asshole reporters.

326 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:57:17am

re: #321 ploome hineni

the ss guy shoud have been on top of bush, when the reporter stood up, and raised his arm to throw the show

the ss people have no busines sitting in the audience, they should be watching the audience

if the reporter had been shooting, it would have been horrendous

sounds like a real clusterfuck...I have not seen the vid so I shouldnt comment...from Bushs statement he made light of it...maybe heads will roll...

327 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 11:58:33am

re: #321 ploome hineni

He could have been throwing a grenade. I don't see how you could tell the difference in a second or two that it requires you to react. Homeboy is lucky that the SS didn't perforate him. Just on general principals.

328 gop_patriot  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:00:46pm
329 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:02:00pm
330 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:04:37pm
331 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:04:37pm

re: #329 ploome hineni

IIRC, th ss man got up after the first shoe missed

You are correct

332 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:05:07pm
333 rawmuse  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:07:38pm

I hear that Arabs only respect you if your boot is firmly on their neck.
Could it be true?

334 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:08:14pm

re: #332 buzzsawmonkey
Just how many Iraqis do you know that idolize Fred Astair?
LOL

335 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:09:32pm
336 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:09:41pm

re: #330 ploome hineni

it is even worse than I remember

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

thanks...jeezus!...youre right...where the hell WAS the SS...I dont really get it...who took him down?

337 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:09:53pm

re: #333 rawmuse

I hear that Arabs only respect you if your boot is firmly on their neck.
Could it be true?

I'm nothing like an expert on them, but from what I've read over the years, it sounds plausible.

338 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:10:23pm

re: #306 Pietr

One problem for the thrower, though. Here in the USA, the thrower will be guilty of a Federal Crime-assaulting the President-and will do time as a felon.

LOL, that assumes that the Secret Service don't have itchy trigger fingers... his or her time could be very short.

339 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:10:54pm

re: #336 albusteve

thanks...jeezus!...youre right...where the hell WAS the SS...I dont really get it...who took him down?

The SS got him eventually. Apparently Dana Perino to a hit when it went down - about 10 seconds too late if you ask me.

340 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:13:23pm

re: #339 Creeping Eruption

The SS got him eventually. Apparently Dana Perino to a hit when it went down - about 10 seconds too late if you ask me.

I hadnt realized it was so ugly...a shoe toss or whatever...but that guy had some smoke on it and oviously meant harm such as it would be...

341 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:13:40pm

re: #330 ploome hineni

it is even worse than I remember

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Bush's remarks afterwards were spot on-target.
Heh!
*rimshot* for Bush

342 albusteve  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:14:32pm

re: #341 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Bush's remarks afterwards were spot on-target.
Heh!
*rimshot* for Bush

I think so...I mean what can you say?...he did alright

343 J.S.  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:15:42pm

re: #253 Lincolntf

Up here in Canada, the premier of the province of Alberta once had some loon run up and smash a pie in the premier's face. That was supposed to have been a "political statement." The premier had the fellow arrested and charged with assault...(I didn't think it was at all "funny". It was a premeditated assault.) I think precisely the same can be said for the would-be Iraqi assaulter (and I suspect the act was clearly planned in advance -- two shoes being thrown -- the words spoken/screamed -- all planned out in advance).

344 Cheechako  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:20:52pm

President Bush needs to tell the reporter "Hey, no harm done" and then send the reporter a fancy replacement pair of Texas shit-kickers.

345 hazzyday  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:24:22pm

The psychology of people like this is that they commit the crimes they protest about themselves. But when it's in their self interest their minds turn out rationalizations. When the same action is done by someone they disagree with their self interest gets moralistic.

Baghdad Bob. These are people that for whatever reason lack integrity.

346 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:27:48pm

re: #344 Cheechako

President Bush needs to tell the reporter "Hey, no harm done" and then send the reporter a fancy replacement pair of Texas shit-kickers.

Made out of pig skin.

347 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:29:55pm

Certifiable.
re: #341 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Bush's remarks afterwards were spot on-target.
Heh!
*rimshot* for Bush

Yep, I mean what else could he do?
But those SS guys should be disciplined. There is no way the reporter should have gotten off that second throw unless it was a death-twitch.

348 Ezekiel2517  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:32:16pm

You want to impress me? Chuck your loafer at one of the iranian mullahs, or a saudi prince and see what happens.

349 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:34:21pm

re: #347 Spare O'Lake

But those SS guys should be disciplined. There is no way the reporter should have gotten off that second throw unless it was a death-twitch.

Yes. Even if the reporters had been screened before entering the room, something wasn't "working" there.

350 avanti  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:35:12pm

Though I did not vote for Bush, nor support the war, this is BS on many levels. No matter how I feel about his decisions. he is our President and deserves respect. Not only that, even if I may disagree with him, I don't question his love of country and good intentions. It was a insult to our President, but more then that, it's a insult to the men and women who died so the reporter could toss a shoe without being killed for his lame move.

351 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:36:39pm

re: #348 Ezekiel2517

You want to impress me? Chuck your loafer at one of the iranian mullahs, or a saudi prince and see what happens.

Heh. Would you even be around long enough to learn (first-hand) what those mobile cranes at Evin Prison are used for?

352 restitutor orbis  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:36:50pm

A shoe thrower being hailed as a hero is quite an improvement, since attaining hero status on the Arab street usually involves bombs, Jews, and crowded public venues, with the degree of "hero-ness" rising proportionally to number of people killed, maimed, and traumatized.

Lets not forget their original "hero" the child-raping caravan raider.

353 greenmiler  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:37:50pm

"shoeless Joe Jackson" ...SNL will probably have him being pummeled by secret service shoes raining down on him

354 lostlakehiker  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:38:10pm

This preoccupation with humiliation is strange. If I go to a chess tournament and play badly, I will be humiliated, especially if I bragged about my skill before the game. But my opponent has done nothing wrong.

The road to humiliation begins with arrogance and continues when you meet up with someone who is better than you think he is, and better than you are, at something you, in your arrogance, think you're tops at. The man who is constantly humiliated is the man who constantly preens and presents himself as being the crown of creation.

What sort of asshole is it who demands that others stop humiliating him? Shall we all stand aside and deliberately lose to him at any contest of skill? If he fancies himself a poet, shall we write wretched doggerel? If he fancies himself an architect, shall we make only mud huts? The braggart has only himself to blame for his humiliations. Joe Namath and Muhammad Ali set themselves up for humiliation with their boasting before the contest, but escaped it by performing as advertised. Other men just quietly do their best, and if it's good enough, quietly win. What is it with these guys, that their long losing streak in the game of history puts us in the wrong?

The shoe thrower even lost at shoe throwing. With grace and class, Bush dodged the missile and made the thrower look ridiculous. Another grievance!

355 Outrider  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:38:25pm

re: #343 J.S.

Up here in Canada, the premier of the province of Alberta once had some loon run up and smash a pie in the premier's face. That was supposed to have been a "political statement." The premier had the fellow arrested and charged with assault...(I didn't think it was at all "funny". It was a premeditated assault.) I think precisely the same can be said for the would-be Iraqi assaulter (and I suspect the act was clearly planned in advance -- two shoes being thrown -- the words spoken/screamed -- all planned out in advance).

That is just it. You never know what is in that pie. A few years back I was squirted in the face by a nut with a squirt-gun because he didn't like my smoking at the picnic table outside the Dunkin Doughnuts. I cold cocked him. The officer asked me if I wanted him prosecuted for assault. I did and he got a suspended sentence. But, there could have been anything in the squirt gun..... same as the pie...... or the shoe.

356 lostlakehiker  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:39:40pm

re: #349 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes. Even if the reporters had been screened before entering the room, something wasn't "working" there.

Far better to watch his look as he realizes that he missed. You don't want a martyr out of this incident. You want a good laugh.

357 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:41:42pm

So, let's see, this is being cheered by: Pali splodeydope apologists, Saddam's lawyer, and Sadr City theofascist cretins.

By your enemies you are known, Mr. President. You can stand tall.

358 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:43:13pm

the standard for being dubbed a "hero" in the arab/muslim is quite low.

359 Occasional Reader  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:46:29pm
Shoe-Tosser a Celebrity in Arab World

Fixed. (In Britishese)

360 Outrider  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:48:04pm

re: #358 _RememberTonyC

the standard for being dubbed a "hero" in the arab/muslim is quite low.

because there are so few of them.

361 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:48:38pm

re: #356 lostlakehiker

Far better to watch his look as he realizes that he missed. You don't want a martyr out of this incident. You want a good laugh.

There's no laughs left

362 winston06  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 12:56:30pm

From what I have read it appears that the guy is a Sunni. Given the history and things his co-religionists have done, he is probably pissed off that Saddam is gone. Most Sunnis have been pissed off since Saddam was toppled.

363 Priebles  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:13:00pm

Guess who just jumped to the top of the list for TIME Man of the Year?

364 Prester John  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:13:10pm

That part of the world tends to celebrate anything less than a total catastrophe as some sort of triumph e.g., ,

The Egyptians rallying around Nassar after Israeli beat the snot out of them in 1967.

The Iraqis rallying around Saddam after we beat the snot out of them in 1991.

I guess just the fact that someone had enough "courage" to do something like that is also considered some sort of triumph even though the guy missed completely, kinda like the Syrian air forces' performance against the Israelis back in the 80s.

Tonight's score from the Bekka Valley, Israeli Air Force 82, Syrian Air Force 0.

Amazing stuff.

365 DaChew  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:13:49pm

Judging by the above comments, I guess I'm the only one who really sees the importance of this incident:

The first throw was high and outside. The second was in the zone but didn't have any gas. Analyzing the tape frame by frame, I'll say this just for starters: Guy needs to tighten up in the windup. He's not reaching back at all and he's leaving his hips out of it. He's got to come over the top and pop it down the line. He's not leaning back off the kick and he's not stepping into it. Look at his elbows - they're all over the place. And need I even mention that he's got no follow through? You give me 10 minutes with this guy and I'll improve his accuracy by 70% - guaranteed.

Until then, why is no one in the free world even mentioning that the guy throws like a girl? The Arab world should be more humiliated by the international showcasing of this guy's sissy-throw than anything Bush has done.

366 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:19:33pm

re: #365 DaChew

Da Chew -

Give him a break - Iraq is a "Soccer" Nation - they don't practice throwing much. Now if he could have bounced it off his head?....

-S-

367 solomonpanting  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:21:10pm

re: #365 DaChew

He will spend his career in the Bush League.

368 winston06  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:21:27pm

re: #364 Prester John

deranged bunch

369 SixDegrees  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:22:07pm
Shoe-Tosser a Celebrity in Arab World

Hell - he's a celebrity in the Western world, if you believe the Western press. They have obligingly provided wall-to-wall coverage of this incident, and the worldwide attention is beginning to have it's intended effect - a crowd in Sadr's old neighborhood in Baghdad just started jeering and throwing their shoes at passing military convoys.

This is exactly what the perpetrators had hoped for, and the Western press is doing everything it can to help stir up as much trouble in Iraq as they can while Bush is still in office.

Apparently, modern journalism curricula include classes in Terrorist Fellatio.

370 J.S.  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:27:42pm

re: #369 SixDegrees

I can hardly wait till a similar incident (any would-be assault) occurs with The One. What will the press be saying then, eh?

371 Brees  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:35:52pm

If W would have thrown back..............it probably would have started the World War that they all want.

Now, if it was Obama up there............what would happen?

372 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:42:30pm

Israel should build a massive catapult that will fling 50,000 smelly gym sneakers on Hamas rallies - leading to the utter humiliation and collapse of the regime.

373 maddogg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:46:13pm

I just took a look at MSNBC's blog and the comments concerning the shoe throwing incident. What a bunch of shit eating dogs.

374 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 1:50:59pm

re: #365 DaChew

You give me 10 minutes with this guy and I'll improve his accuracy by 70% - guaranteed.

Heh!

I've got another instructor for the guy.
(Remember the gorilla in the Samsonite commercial?!)

375 J.S.  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:07:42pm

re: #373 maddogg

for sure...and that JackAss "letter reader" at CNN is an utter scumbag (but then that's probably an insult to scumbags.)

376 Priebles  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:11:19pm

So...a member of the PRESS...an an attempt to provide the highest insult possible...throws a shoe at the current President...and the PRESS goes Ga Ga.

So...if a member of the PRESS...in an attempt to provide the highest insult possible throws a (fill in the blank) at the next President...will the PRESS go Ga Ga?

Some suggestions:
pineapple
noose
fried chicken
pack of smokes
Monopoly money

377 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:11:35pm

Anyone watching Around the Horn on ESPN? During the show-open, someone threw a shoe at Woody Paige's head. Pretty funny.

378 notutopia  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:14:34pm

Yahoo news had several videos available when this story broke yesterday, from several different countries and their coverage of it. It was most interesting to watch the quips and smirks and jokes of this most shameful shoe throwing gesture from the reporters.
The one that was most disturbing to me was from a Aussie news site that actually had 3 reporters, 2 males, 1 female, who showed this video in the light that it was a comedy..complete with background music. It was appalling.


President Bush handled this shameful act with grace, style and the best of American conservative decorum, given the horrible situation.

379 historyrider  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:18:59pm

How much more of this type of it can a person be expected to take. I am sick and tired of hearing the left go on and on about our lack of respect in the world. From Hugo Chavez addressing the UN on our own soil and feeling bold enough to insult our own president, to Putin, Chavez and crew engaging in their naval-lint-ball exercises, and now this filthy miscreant throwing two shoes at our president, and our own citizens applauding and laughing about it! How insane of a country have we become? The saddest thing to me about this "lack of respect for the US" is that it is warranted--for many of our "fellow Americans." The image much of the world has of America comes from our media and entertainment industries. A stranger looking at the evening programming on any given night sees very little worthy of respect.

380 notutopia  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:22:42pm

re: #286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Which part can you not believe? The part that SNL would stoop so low or that Patterson stood up for his dislike of his portrayal ?

381 Joan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:24:20pm

re: #7 CIA Reject
Wonderful rant. Rant away, CIA

382 A.W.  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:33:20pm

I find this interesting. How many values are shared between the american left and the terrorists. Like on say, gay rights, the status of women, and so on, is there alot of agreement? No, of course not. And yet they can team up to humiliate Bush.

But on the other hand, Saddam Hussien and Obama and BidenOsama bin Laden can't possibly have teamed up on 9-11 or anything else.

And why is it that the American left is less concerned with terrorism than the american right. on the surface, it would seem the american left has more to lose. That puzzled me for a while, until one day i figured it out. The left may have more things to lose, but the things the terrorists threaten for the right matters more to them, than the things on the left. To the right, they are core values, but the left apparently doesn't really believe in its values as deeply as the right does. So take women's rights. The modern right is actually pretty advanced on women's rights. most don't say a woman has to stay home, most will let women have equal opportunity. But they won't allow for abortion on demand, and there won't be that horrid fair pay doctrine. But where the right is less "feminist" than the left, to the extent they are feminists they really believe this. So they see girls taking off their veils and smiling at american liberators and they take pride. by comparison the left doesn't believe in feminism enough to see a veil as a real problem.

Just a thought.

383 Joan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:38:03pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

Libyan group gives shoe-throwing reporter award

...a victory for human rights around the world.

These twisted, despicable, sin-sick souls have deified Hate. They dance on the bones of innocents, they reek with blood, they are defined by cowardice and envy. Not an ounce of mercy, not an instant of compassion for human suffering shines into the dark cesspool where their hearts lie, submerged in gore and incapable of honor.

/rant off for now

384 Joan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:44:06pm

re: #369 SixDegrees

....This is exactly what the perpetrators had hoped for, and the Western press is doing everything it can to help stir up as much trouble in Iraq as they can while Bush is still in office.
Apparently, modern journalism curricula include classes in Terrorist Fellatio.

You have a way with words, SixDegrees. Our practicing journalists have proved themselves to be very apt pupils, yes, very apt pupils indeed.

385 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:52:21pm

i think this guy is going to end up with a bullet in his head ... and it will be an iraqi who does it ... and I won't be all that unhappy about it.

386 Joan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:53:03pm

re: #379 historyrider

Excellent points. We are ridiculed because we do not have common sense, self restraint, or respect for our own country. There's a survival factor involved with patriotism, with respect the office even if you disagree with the office holder.

DON'T TREAD ON ME is a survival state of mind. We better learn it, live it, make sure these laughing hyenas end up laughing out their ass.

387 DEZes  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:55:43pm

Maybe the reporter threw his shoes because he forgot to bring his purse.

'Ducks"

388 Joan  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:57:45pm

re: #378 notutopia

Yahoo news had several videos available when this story broke yesterday, from several different countries and their coverage of it. It was most interesting to watch the quips and smirks and jokes of this most shameful shoe throwing gesture from the reporters.

These people are going to be laughing out their ass in less than two years from now, when the roof comes down.

389 runrabbitrun  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 2:59:57pm

re: #347 Spare O'Lake

Certifiable.

But those SS guys should be disciplined. There is no way the reporter should have gotten off that second throw unless it was a death-twitch.

In years back, the SS guys would have been investigated. And the bit with Bush waving back his security detail, directing them not to get involved is ridiculous.

Remember the scene when Hinckley took a shot at Reagan? Before you could take another breath, the bodyguards were covering our President. That's their job, even if the bullets are still flying in their direction. It's non-negotiable... the POTUS doesn't confer or consider whether he wants or needs that level of protection when assaulted. I do hope some heads roll, or there is an investigation into the placement of the detail, and their response. Something stinks on ice regarding that whole scene.

390 dominic yeso  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:03:11pm

well if it comes down to it I guess we could fling pig entrails back at them .. in the mean time I will just blow my nose in their general direction.

391 Ceemack  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:06:41pm

I'm kind of surprised Helen Thomas has never tried this.

Then again, the guy threw kind of like Helen Thomas.

The funny part is, he thinks he humiliated Bush and the Arab world considers him a hero.

But here in the West, he just looks ridiculous.

Except, of course, to the Kos/HuffPo crowd...but then they're used to looking ridiculous.

392 maddogg  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:08:41pm

The Kos/Huffpo crowd would have cheered someone taking a shot at Bush. Thats just the kind of slime they are.

393 offendi  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:15:23pm

Hmmm... I would think this guy has seen Olbermann and is seeking a similiar contract with the American media.

Be very worried Keith, this guy does you one better dude. Expect Keith-ie to be throwing shoes at a picture of Bush on his next show.

394 Mauser  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:24:12pm

re: #156 lawhawk

This guy is a fan of Che Guevara and socialist dictators..

Just saw a report on him on Fox. His family has a Che poster next to his photograph.

395 Mauser  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:26:47pm

re: #365 DaChew

Until then, why is no one in the free world even mentioning that the guy throws like a girl? The Arab world should be more humiliated by the international showcasing of this guy's sissy-throw than anything Bush has done.

Because they don't play baseball in the Arab world. They play soccer.

396 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:28:05pm

If Iraq's press now bites the hand that shields them, then they have officially joined the ranks of our allies, who do the same. Yet another marker of progress.

397 quickjustice  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:41:04pm

These people have WAY too much time on their hands!

398 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:42:25pm

re: #393 offendi

Hmmm... I would think this guy has seen Olbermann and is seeking a similiar contract with the American media.

Be very worried Keith, this guy does you one better dude. Expect Keith-ie to be throwing shoes at a picture of Bush on his next show.

Miss Precious Perfect too. . .SNL skit. . .funny funny. . .:)

399 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:42:44pm

re: #397 quickjustice

These people have WAY too much time on their hands!


True

400 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:43:03pm

re: #394 Mauser

Just saw a report on him on Fox. His family has a Che poster next to his photograph.

OF course!

401 DisturbedEma  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:44:29pm

re: #389 runrabbitrun

In years back, the SS guys would have been investigated. And the bit with Bush waving back his security detail, directing them not to get involved is ridiculous.

Remember the scene when Hinckley took a shot at Reagan? Before you could take another breath, the bodyguards were covering our President. That's their job, even if the bullets are still flying in their direction. It's non-negotiable... the POTUS doesn't confer or consider whether he wants or needs that level of protection when assaulted. I do hope some heads roll, or there is an investigation into the placement of the detail, and their response. Something stinks on ice regarding that whole scene.

Yeah, I agree. . .

402 LEGION  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 3:55:11pm

It's gotta be da shoes! (Old Michael Jordan/Nike sneaker commercial)

403 Perplexed  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 4:02:12pm

Bush should have either whipped out a pistol and shot the goober between the eyes or had the Secret Service types hold on to the goober while Bush worked the goober over with brass knuckles.

404 cgn38navy  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:07:19pm

It's the cultural equivalent of a teenager saying "I hate you!" to his parents. They aren't quite ready to stand on their own, but they want to cut the apron strings.

405 Arby Dwiar  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:13:49pm

Fortunately for al-Zeidi, only his shoes will end up in the shredding machine...

406 We need G.C. Scott  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 5:55:15pm

He's just waxing nostalgic for the days of rape rooms, killing of athletes who
come up short, throwing political rivals to their deaths, watching animals
devour people. Along with a certain infamous prison which bears witness to
many untold horrors, yet whose sum history for some has regretfully been reduced to images resembling a level of mockery of a frat house hazing nature or a group initiation ritual. Seen through the prism of: the U.S. *****, and is the source of all ills, that equates to much worse than Saddam's atrocities.

407 mrmiji  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:32:02pm

I'd like to think that somewhere in a dark Iraqi prison, a nude journalist is attempting to pass two size 10 shoes that had been shoved up his rectum unceremoniously.

This should be a lesson southwest asian countries should learn: you throw a shoe; we send every service component to deliver the Ann Coulter solution.

408 rumcrook  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 6:41:33pm

re: #144 Solomon2

best sentiment ive read all week

409 grahamski  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:12:13pm

re: #392 maddogg

The Kos/Huffpo crowd would have cheered someone taking a shot at Bush. Thats just the kind of slime they are.

I wanted to see what the kooks at huff were saying about this, so I took a peek.
They are loving this, saying it "made their day"...

really a fine group of people they have over there...
NOT!

410 cavallino_rampante  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 7:39:28pm

All I have to say is that Dubya's got some cat-like reflexes. Impressive.

Gonna miss that guy.

411 eaglewingz08  Mon, Dec 15, 2008 9:05:04pm

And libs would applaud anyone who threw their shoes or oreos at Obama during the Inauguration as a precious example of free speech, right libs?

412 SixDegrees  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 1:35:52am

re: #321 ploome hineni

the ss guy shoud have been on top of bush, when the reporter stood up, and raised his arm to throw the show

the ss people have no busines sitting in the audience, they should be watching the audience

if the reporter had been shooting, it would have been horrendous

At the end of the day, the Secret Service does what the President tells them to do. They're free to offer their own suggestions and advice, of course, but chances are very high that they were deployed the way they were because that's what they were ordered to do. Presidents always drive security nuts because they don't like the appearance of being behind an armed phalanx at all times, and prefer to keep security in the background.

I have little doubt that's what was taking place here.

413 badbear  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 6:53:38am

Muslim and journalist is strike three. Terminal scumbag.

414 Marlin925  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 7:22:04am

BTDT in the ME too many times. "Internationalism" and nationbuilding amongst the [bigoted word]s is akin to teaching a pig to sing, accomplishes nothing, save anoying the pig.

The best way to deal with the savages is to wage punative expeditions against them when they act up, or show themselves. Simply put, locate them, kill them, and leave. They are not worth the life of one U.S. Servicemember.

415 Seax  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 1:24:12am

Me thinks that reporter is toast...


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