Bitterness does not become him.

McCain's endorsement? Is that followed by a "FWIW" ?

Senator McCain, go away.

She doesn't need his endorsement. She's more powerful than he.

BTW, -7.5 F and there's DiHydrogen Monoxide crystals all over the ground. OMG.

GRRRRRRRR!

What an awful creature...

Shut up John.

She was the only one with testicles in this whole race. Ironically, she was the only female.

Go Palin!

Palin was way too conservative for McCain. He never deserved her.

And I only voted for you because of that woman. Seriously leave, John McCain, forever.

He is reminding me daily why I was NOT in his corner up to the point he selected Palin. Trying to think of something nice to say... he was really funny on SNL. In fact he was so funny, I think he should go ahead and pursue that as a career because despite my admiration for his service to our country, I am darn sick of hearing what is coming out of his mouth.

He had no confidence in his own VP pick. It was a doomed ticket.

LOL buzz

So typical. The erratic ungrateful grandstander only thinks of himself.

I'll repeat my prediction from yesterday. At some point in the next 4 years the GOP will implement a successful filibuster. It will be against a issue with little merit or popularity. McCain will make a deal to break the filibuster and give the Democrats cover.

re: #11 buzzsawmonkey

In other breaking news, John McCain reaches across the aisle to support Republicans.

Yeah, like that will ever happen?

She should start a conservative party, since Republicans deserted conservatism. She's probably toast by R's and D's.

Party symbol would be the moose... heh... ok, no, the American Eagle would be better I suppose.

any one but McLame in 2010 AZ senate race

There's ticking everyone off, and there's biting everybody around you like a mad dog. Senator McCain is getting awfully close to the latter.

What a jerk.

“She invigorated resuscitated our campaign” against Barack Obama for the presidency, he said.

FIXED.

re: #15 LesLein

So typical. The erratic ungrateful grandstander only thinks of himself.

I'll repeat my prediction from yesterday. At some point in the next 4 years the GOP will implement a successful filibuster. It will be against a issue with little merit or popularity. McCain will make a deal to break the filibuster and give the Democrats cover.

My guess is that it will be MUCH closer to 6 months.

re: #7 winston06

why the negative ding? LoL

and that's why I did not vote for him but for Palin and against Obama--

re: #21 conservativeChick

indeed

re: #19 ploome hineni

Is he getting some special appointment from The One? Will he and Liebermen go off on some peace making junket? If so, can we give them Carter?

McCain was pressed on why he can’t promise support for the woman who, just months ago, he named as the second best person to lead the nation. “Have no doubt of my admiration and respect for her and my view of her viability, but at this stage, again ... my corpse is still warm, you know?” he replied.

Meaning he plans to run in 2012? Good luck on that

I prefer he NOT support Palin, it would diminish her conservative credentials, imho.

Well now I really think Palin was the only decent candidate of the 4.

Palin 2012.

He's holding out for that VP nod after Biden is stricken by foot-in-mouth disease.

If Palin is lucky, he'll not endorse or support her in any way.

If she's lucky, he'll just go back to kissing the Democrat's asses and trying to figure out more ways to trump the will of the people with more amnesty bills.

/RINO

re: #17 Max Darkside

She's probably toast by R's and D's.

GRRRR.. PIMF...

SHE WOULD TOAST the R's and D's.

/I an idiot, I is, um, r

One of my liberal friends gloatingly sent me this news link today - he actually likes McCain. I replied "I'm glad he lost". He didn't reply.

re: #18 winston06

any one but McLame in 2010 AZ senate race

Hate to say this, but I would like to see his pants beat off him in his race. I sure dont want a Dem, but what's the difference?

I wonder whether Palin would support him if he ran again.

I wish Mac would do the honorable thing and switch to the Donkey party. Let's be rid of this clown once and for all. And hey Arizona, how about running a conservative against him in the next election.

re: #28 Thanos

He sure is doing a great job warming up to us real Republicans to make THAT happen!

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This was exactly why I was not enthused about supporting mccain once he won the primaries need to ensure the nomination. He's not supportive of fellow republicans, and has gone out of his way to work against the party far too often.

It should come as no surprise that he'd snub a fellow republicans now. He's had YEARS of practice.

I supported him because of Sarah and that I was hopeful he was serious about reforming Washington. Now- I'm sick that I allowed him to bullshit me. I'm going to apologize to the republicans I know that stayed home or voted third party.

re: #35 Wishing

I'd rather a Dem to a RINO who back stabs his own party. I'd rather know the lines

I think she would be better off without his endorsement. She probably knows it, too.

To think I held my nose and still voted for this asshole...with candidates like this, we deserved to lose in 2008.

Senator McCain is a maverick douche nozzle.

re: #36 wrenchwench

If I were her, I would be tempted to say some UGLY things about that cat and the horse he rode in on. She is probably better than me in that respect, however.

RINO

re: #45 Jetpilot1101

Senator McCain is a maverick douche nozzle.

Now THAT's a new one!

/roflmao

She was the best thing about his ticket. I have to say though, if he did endorse her, it might well hurt her being the rino that he is.

re: #36 wrenchwench

I wonder whether Palin would support him if he ran again.

As gracious as she is..probably.

re: #45 Jetpilot1101

an idiot, at best

re: #47 dcbatlle

enemy

Somebody doesn't want to keep their senate seat in 2010...

The forever campaign. I'm so sick of hearing from McCain, and honestly, I'm sure I will vote Palin in 2012. We don't know yet what we will need on the ticket. A plague on both their houses for naked, ambitious self-promotion. I hate the sight of Hucklebee too. It is over. Get over it. Let us get on with life.

Stop jumping up and down and pleading and crying, you'll go home with no treats and no supper for your trouble. Quiet! That's not how we behave in public!

McCain for Retirement '10!

fucking McCain is trying to proove that my distrust of him was merited. The fucker is a RINO at best. He doesn't even pretend to being a real Republican. Motherfucker'd better not run again. I voted for the cocksucker because I considered the alternative worse. I still believe that to be the case.

But his picking Palin was the goddamn only thing that he really did right in his pathetic campaign.

So of course, the motherfucker's dissin' her. He woudn't say fucking shit if he had a mouthful of it if it meant saying anything bad about a fucking Democrat. OTOH, it's always open season on Republicans. For Mccain, it always will be.

re: #42 winston06

I'd rather a Dem to a RINO who back stabs his own party. I'd rather know the lines

At least the Dems have the courage to stab the GOP in the stomach.

re: #54 Joan

I wish Hannity would stop giving lip service to Shuckabee. He makes my skin crawl.

We were told he was a man of honor.

I seriously question that now.

re: #57 LesLein

exactly!

re: #59 Sharmuta

what honor?

is the crazy old coot so full of anger and jealousy because he knows he would have failed miserably w/out sarah palin on the ticket.
does he know most people were voting for her?
he is really showing what a small person he is.
he is very petty.
he does not understand the concept of allegiance and integrity.

McCain Dodges the Palin Question...

...like Bush dodges shoes.
Just a random thought, not to get too off topic. Imagine if Bush had caught that first shoe and started yelling at the reporter. What a message that would have sent. Granted, that's not very Bush-like, but it would've been brilliant.

re: #55 jcm

McCain for Retirement '10!! '08!

Fixt.

re: #12 ArmyWife

He is reminding me daily why I was NOT in his corner up to the point he selected Palin. Trying to think of something nice to say... he was really funny on SNL. In fact he was so funny, I think he should go ahead and pursue that as a career because despite my admiration for his service to our country, I am darn sick of hearing what is coming out of his mouth.

I'm with you.

re: #5 Max Darkside

She doesn't need his endorsement. She's more powerful than he.

BTW, -7.5 F and there's DiHydrogen Monoxide crystals all over the ground. OMG.

No, they are fluffy-white global warming crystals (tm WLN)

re: #56 Iron Fist

Like I said- he's bitter. We loved her more than him and he hates her for it.

Oh he could never bother supporting Palin, when he is so busy licking Obamas boots!

he is a misguided old fool.
that is the best that can be said abt. him at this point.

McCain's busy ingratiating himself with the Liberal media again.

Just go away already, John.

You've done your damage already.

John McCain: The Democrats' Favorite Republican

Someone should put a size 10 steel toe up is ass. Maybe that will jar him back to reality and he'll realize knifing his own party in the back really makes him look bad.

It's so disappointing on all levels. He served his country honorably. Now he should just go away.

re: #62 nyc redneck

is the crazy old coot so full of anger and jealousy because he knows he would have failed miserably w/out sarah palin on the ticket.
does he know most people were voting for her?
he is really showing what a small person he is.
he is very petty.
he does not understand the concept of allegiance and integrity.

He has to know. Campaign donations went wayyyyy up once he announced her as VP pick. He must know that whatever support he got, he got because of Palin. And maybe that's why he's so bitter and angry.

re: #41 Sharmuta

This was exactly why I was not enthused about supporting mccain once he won the primaries need to ensure the nomination. He's not supportive of fellow republicans, and has gone out of his way to work against the party far too often.

It should come as no surprise that he'd snub a fellow republicans now. He's had YEARS of practice.

I supported him because of Sarah and that I was hopeful he was serious about reforming Washington. Now- I'm sick that I allowed him to bullshit me. I'm going to apologize to the republicans I know that stayed home or voted third party.

If I recall correctly, you weren't fooled. Like the rest of us, you had the same choice of voting democrat or socialist. That's not much of a choice but at least McCain seemed to have genuine love of country. Unlike the other candidate.

re: #54 Joan

I'm not sure I will vote Palin in 2012.

PIMF

Sheesh -- it was Sarah I voted for. McCain was something I was stuck with to get her, and unfortunately he messed up big-time.

Damn you John! Sarah fought harder for your victory than you did- and this is how you repay her?! You disgust me.

One of McCain's problems was that he doesn't have any experience opposing Democrats. He should have pretended that Obama was a Republican. It would have been a GOP landslide.

Looks like Johnny Boy borrowed Nobama's bus.

How come I smell Colin Powell when talk turns to McCain, and vice-versa?

re: #41 Sharmuta

He was still better than the fucking One™, but only by comparison. Hopefully the Right will learn a lesson from this godforsaken election and not split their fucking votes what, five ways?

And only Republicans should be able to vote in a Republican Primary. This letting the Democrats pick our nominee is fucking nuts. It is certainly a way to guarentee that we won't win.

at this point, how could anyone trust mccain.

re: #64 bosforus

...like Bush dodges shoes.
Just a random thought, not to get too off topic. Imagine if Bush had caught that first shoe and started yelling at the reporter. What a message that would have sent. Granted, that's not very Bush-like, but it would've been brilliant.

Caught it, took a full wind-up and nailed him right between the eyes with it! Now that's news worth watching!

re: #58 ArmyWife

I wish Hannity would stop giving lip service to Shuckabee. He makes my skin crawl.

I can't even listen to Hannity anymore. He continually repeats himself day after day, about how he was poor growing up, his parents couldn't pay for his college, he had to drop and get a job when he ran out of money, blah...blah...blah.

And his incessant use of the phrase "et cetera, et cetera" drove me up the wall.

re: #56 Iron Fist

fucking McCain is trying to proove that my distrust of him was merited. The fucker is a RINO at best. He doesn't even pretend to being a real Republican. Motherfucker'd better not run again. I voted for the cocksucker because I considered the alternative worse. I still believe that to be the case.

But his picking Palin was the goddamn only thing that he really did right in his pathetic campaign.

So of course, the motherfucker's dissin' her. He woudn't say fucking shit if he had a mouthful of it if it meant saying anything bad about a fucking Democrat. OTOH, it's always open season on Republicans. For Mccain, it always will be.

I'm ready for a good old fashioned purge...this kind of stuff only serves to to illustrate the dire situation the GoP is in....breakout the pitchforks

we can't let the msm pick our candidate for pouts ever again.

McCain picked Palin because he needed a Republican to balance the ticket.

re: #87 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I can't even listen to Hannity anymore. He continually repeats himself day after day, about how he was poor growing up, his parents couldn't pay for his college, he had to drop and get a job when he ran out of money, blah...blah...blah.

And his incessant use of the phrase "et cetera, et cetera" drove me up the wall.

He also gives WAY too much air time to Buchanan.

re: #85 nyc redneck

at this point, how could anyone trust mccain.

The Roi had it right from the beginning.
Like Killgore, he was going to sit out this election.
I talked him into voting, and honestly, glad of it, people should vote.
This was McCain's last hurrah - there will not be another presidential race for him. Palin campaigned better, and whatever support he had, much of it came to him because of her. He is a bitter, angry, old man. Kind of like Andy Rooney.

re: #56 Iron Fist

I am struck by a thought after reading this. McCain isn't so much a maverick as he is a m f'er.

Jon McCain is a gaseous pontificating windbag that puts Lautenberg to shame. We are all dumber for listening to him. Please John, do us all a favor and SHUT THE F$@& UP!

Pretty hard to believe he was actually the GOP nominee.

/hey, wha happen?

re: #41 Sharmuta

This was exactly why I was not enthused about supporting mccain once he won the primaries need to ensure the nomination. He's not supportive of fellow republicans, and has gone out of his way to work against the party far too often.

It should come as no surprise that he'd snub a fellow republicans now. He's had YEARS of practice.

I supported him because of Sarah and that I was hopeful he was serious about reforming Washington. Now- I'm sick that I allowed him to bullshit me. I'm going to apologize to the republicans I know that stayed home or voted third party.

I did not vote this year...first time and it really bothered me for a while...I'm cool with it now especially since NM was blown out again

McCain is back in his politician suits.

He did nothing, and she did everything, and this is how he repays her. If that's not damning with faint praise!

re: #65 Wishing

Fixt.

His Senate term is up in '10 IIRC.

Sooner would be better.

re: #58 ArmyWife

Yeah, I've never liked Huckabee either. He had some conservative positions (like his stance on gun control), but his Big Government, big spending, fiscally Liberal streak just plain sucks.

Let's hope he takes a pass in 2012.

re: #56 Iron Fist
Y'know, if we wanted to read that kind of language, we could go to Daily Kos.

Why should he support her when she cost him the election?

re: #89 nyc redneck

we can't let the msm pick our candidate for pouts ever again.

It wasn't just the MSM. It was independants and dems who showed up at the polls and put him in there for us. It worked and I'm not sure there's anything we can do about that in the future.

re: #96 albusteve

I did not vote this year...first time and it really bothered me for a while...I'm cool with it now especially since NM was blown out again

Frankly- had Hillary won the nomination, I was considering voting for her because I figured better the devil I knew than the devil I didn't.

Just more proof you can't trust mavericks.

What an ass jacker.

re: #76 reine.de.tout

He has to know. Campaign donations went wayyyyy up once he announced her as VP pick. He must know that whatever support he got, he got because of Palin. And maybe that's why he's so bitter and angry.

isn't it annoying? this ungrateful jealous old coot. i'm thinking he is not a decent person and he doesn't see us as his "friends".

"was"?

McCain said he has “the greatest appreciation for Gov. Palin and her family, and it was a great joy to know them.”

re: #84 Iron Fist

He was still better than the fucking One™, but only by comparison. Hopefully the Right will learn a lesson from this godforsaken election and not split their fucking votes what, five ways?

And only Republicans should be able to vote in a Republican Primary. This letting the Democrats pick our nominee is fucking nuts. It is certainly a way to guarentee that we won't win.

Ok here is my question to the floor:

What can we do NOW to change election law to protect the primaries and make sure another election is NOT STOLEN?

re: #104 Cato the Elder

Why should he support her when she cost him the election?

LOL what?

re: #74 Jetpilot1101

Someone should put a size 10 steel toe up is ass. Maybe that will jar him back to reality and he'll realize knifing his own party in the back really makes him look bad.

I hope its a ladies shoe, And Palin's foot is in it. ;)

re: #105 vapig

It wasn't just the MSM. It was independants and dems who showed up at the polls and put him in there for us. It worked and I'm not sure there's anything we can do about that in the future.

we can stop the dems and independents from voting in our primaries.

re: #58 ArmyWife

I wish Hannity would stop giving lip service to Shuckabee. He makes my skin crawl.

I agree....he creeps me out, as does his son, David (his picture gives me a baaaad vibe). That whole dog-hanging incident had my creep-dar alarmss going off.

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

It will not be popular to say this here--especially not in this thread--but had Palin acquitted herself better in the Couric interview she might possibly have dragged McCain across the finish line. That interview, like it or not, seriously damaged her, and (partially) deflated the lift she definitely gave to the campaign.

Part of it, I suspect, was that she adhered to the extremely lame McCain Campaign talking points. I have to wonder whether her halting and in some cases vacuous responses were due to an attempt to remember and cleave to the empty buzzwords that McCain relied on, or due to the "lack of preparation" alleged, post-campaign, by a bunch of disgruntled and disloyal staffers.

Well, perhaps it isn't popular, but it's true.
She seemed stilted, off-balance during that interview. I think she was being "over-managed", and if they had just let her be herself, she would perhaps have done a better job. Water under the bridge.

But for McCain to show her this kind of disrespect is just awful.

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, she should have gone maverick and just spoke her mind. Let the McCain staff fume about their stupid buzzwords after the fact.

re: #76 reine.de.tout

He has to know. Campaign donations went wayyyyy up once he announced her as VP pick. He must know that whatever support he got, he got because of Palin. And maybe that's why he's so bitter and angry.

Thanks for expressing this in a way I can sign on to, reine. I am sick of McCain, and feel heartsick at his constant sycophancy towards the media, towards the Dems, Obama.

Still, he's a braver person than I am, and unlike myself, found the strength to make a choice to stay and suffer in order to fulfill his duty honorably. I would have pushed to the head of the line for early release, found a way to square it with myself.

It feels awful even to look at him now.

re: #73 gclaghorn

McCain seemed to think that was a good thing. And a lot more important than being the Republican's favorite Republican. He didn't particularly hide his disdain for his putative Party fellows.

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

I agree with your assessment: she was trying to remember who to PRETEND to be. Once she broke free of talking points, she was the clear winner, hands down.

re: #102 Ceemack

Not to put too fine a point on it, but go fuck yourself.

re: #100 Iron Fist

I took issue with his ethical "challenges". Something must be in the Arkansas Governor Mansion water.

I think you’re going to see the governors assume a greater leadership role in our Republican Party,” he said. He then mentioned governors Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and Jon Huntsman of Utah.

Why does McCain (and others) keep mentioning Hunstman as a future leader of the GOP? He's a nice guy and all, but he's moderate at best and has disappointed many conservatives in Utah. Wait, I think I just answered my own question.

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

You are more than likely right about that.

re: #105 vapig

It wasn't just the MSM. It was independants and dems who showed up at the polls and put him in there for us. It worked and I'm not sure there's anything we can do about that in the future.

It was primarily the MSM. The independents showed up with the MSM talking points.

re: #106 Sharmuta

Frankly- had Hillary won the nomination, I was considering voting for her because I figured better the devil I knew than the devil I didn't.

Just more proof you can't trust mavericks.

my common sense just went all askew and I came to terms with it the best way I could...I could not have voted for HC but I get your drift...like Buzz just said maybe Palin could have done better with the media but even so I never felt good about any off it...I'm enormously disappointed with the whole thing frankly...

John McCain's constant spitting on republicans is what cost him the election.

He just can't face the fact that he made a bed for himself and was made to lie in it. He's angry at Sarah for this when he should be looking in the mirror. Asshole.

I never trusted the guy before. Why, oh WHY didn't I heed myself?

re: #100 Iron Fist

Yeah, I've never liked Huckabee either. He had some conservative positions (like his stance on gun control), but his Big Government, big spending, fiscally Liberal streak just plain sucks.

Let's hope he takes a pass in 2012.

My first choice was Fred Thompson - but he ws a no show. My second choice was Duncan Hunter. But by the time the primary got to my state McCain had already been chosen. I voted Hunter anyway, because I loathed McCain THAT much.

I considered not voting until he picked Palin. So this betrayal is damning and just sour grapes. He always was a graceless loser! Look what he did to America in the last 8 years for us chosing Bush. Do you really think he's going to be any less vindictive now?

Watch - he will side with the dems on every one of their pet issues to screw America over.

re: #104 Cato the Elder

Why should he support her when she cost him the election?

because it's the right thing to do as a conservative?

re: #122 tackle
DING DING DING

McCain can't bear the thought of a real Reagan conservative in our party. It makes McCain's schmuckiness so much the more evident.

re: #125 albusteve

It's just that I knew what we'd get from Hillary.

Who knows what one will get with a maverick.

Hey Y'all - just a drive by (on my way to dinner!) sorta OT comment .
I wrote a polite letter to MSNBC criticizing the shoe throwing "journalist" - I said that while the War in Iraq has undoubtedly been unpopular with a lot of folks, that "reporter" and all those (which was everyone to that point in the feedback section) who supported throwing the shoe, should try to remember that MOST of the Iraqi's who were murdered in Iraq were murdered by the "freedom fighters" not bey US or Coalition Forces.That without President Bush and the US and Coalition forces who went into Iraq with authorization from Congress to enforce some 17 UN Security Council Resolutions which Saddam had violated, that "journalist" wouldn't have had the freedom to throw those shoes and that folks ought to remember that when they cheer this "reporter".
Needless to say, they didn't see fit to publish my letter.
I was SHOCKED!
Almost as shocked as when I heard McCain not support Palin more than he did, especially after SHE supported HIM with great vigor and resolve.
Anyway, hope to see you all later!

re: #102 Ceemack

Y'know, if we wanted to read that kind of language, we could go to Daily Kos.

A tip for you...

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re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

It will not be popular to say this here--especially not in this thread--but had Palin acquitted herself better in the Couric interview she might possibly have dragged McCain across the finish line. That interview, like it or not, seriously damaged her, and (partially) deflated the lift she definitely gave to the campaign.

Part of it, I suspect, was that she adhered to the extremely lame McCain Campaign talking points. I have to wonder whether her halting and in some cases vacuous responses were due to an attempt to remember and cleave to the empty buzzwords that McCain relied on, or due to the "lack of preparation" alleged, post-campaign, by a bunch of disgruntled and disloyal staffers.

While I agree she was handcuffed by the McCain camp.....

Do you really think ONE interview would have made up the 6%difference?

re: #104 Cato the Elder

Why should he support her when she cost him the election?

Oh is that what cost him the election?

re: #117 Joan

Thanks for expressing this in a way I can sign on to, reine. I am sick of McCain, and feel heartsick at his constant sycophancy towards the media, towards the Dems, Obama.

Still, he's a braver person than I am, and unlike myself, found the strength to make a choice to stay and suffer in order to fulfill his duty honorably. I would have pushed to the head of the line for early release, found a way to square it with myself.

It feels awful even to look at him now.

A person can be strong and honorable in some areas of his life, but wrong in other areas.

I also think his political career has had a negative effect. Politicians must be flexible, it's part and parcel of getting things done in a group of people who all have completely different views and opinions, but I think McCain got into the habit of going overboard.

re: #110 Wishing

Photo ID for voters is a must. Anyone who is against it is pro voter fraud, and we need to make sure that the public understands that. No votes for non-citizens, and no votes for the dead.

And drop the hammer on voter fraud wherever we find it.

Those steps alone would bring us a good deal closer not only in Presidential politics, but down the ticket as well.

Sources: Obama chooses Chicago schools chief

President-elect Barack Obama has chosen Chicago schools chief Arne Duncan to serve as education secretary, people with knowledge of the decision said Monday.

/well, what could possibly go wrong with that choice?

re: #130 Sharmuta

It's just that I knew what we'd get from Hillary.

Who knows what one will get with a maverick.

I just cant stand the bitch...she's too dirty for this hayseed

Palin had to endure the most vile, evil, disgusting barrage of hatefulness from the MSM and the left. And she endured it with grace and class. Which is more than I can say for McCain. He didn't even have the decency to defend her and her family during or after the campaign. He was too busy trying to be politically correct to his opponent...

Considering that we haven't even sworn in the next President, don't you think it's perfectly appropriate to hold off on an endorsement, at least until after the 2010 midterms?

re: #136 Iron Fist

Photo ID for voters is a must. Anyone who is against it is pro voter fraud, and we need to make sure that the public understands that. No votes for non-citizens, and no votes for the dead.

And drop the hammer on voter fraud wherever we find it.

Those steps alone would bring us a good deal closer not only in Presidential politics, but down the ticket as well.

Ok I 100% agree...at what level must this law be enacted? Is this on state or fed level?

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Just for you Mr. McCain!

Here's why many had to "hold their nose" to vote for McCain. BLECH!

re: #119 Wishing

I agree with your assessment: she was trying to remember who to PRETEND to be. Once she broke free of talking points, she was the clear winner, hands down.

yea I think a lot of Palins supporters were a little disappointed with that interview. It did not show the real Sarah Palin.

re: #114 jumplandpackrepeat

I agree....he creeps me out, as does his son, David (his picture gives me a baaaad vibe). That whole dog-hanging incident had my creep-dar alarmss going off.

! What? What dog hanging incident?

I think he's jealous that Sarah's popularity far exceeds his own. What a jerk.

I remember getting dinged down in a post just prior to the election for calling this POS a POS. Really had no idea then just how stinky this guy is. I'm glad the other guy won and I'm dead serious.

re: #133 TheMatrix31

Though I wouldn't hang my hat on this interview being "the cause", it certainly had a deleterious affect. Had Biden or The One's 57 states been given the same due, we might be having other conversations right now.

We had crap for candidates on both sides. There has to be better out there. I shudder to think there are worse.

re: #137 Killian Bundy

Sources: Obama chooses Chicago schools chief

/well, what could possibly go wrong with that choice?

Duncan spent a great deal of his free time at his mother's center tutoring children and sharpening his basketball skills with the neighborhood children.

re: #144 buzzsawmonkey

The Couric interview was The One Major Interview that Palin got. It went badly--quite badly--and the cloud hung over her for the entire remainder of the campaign. By all accounts, she connected well with live audiences--and was even able to mouth that endless "maverick" and "Wall Street/Main Street" crap without puking or even grimacing, which I would declare a feat of grace indeed. But she never got another serious interview which would allow her to recover from the damage the Couric session inflicted on her.

I really really hate to agree with you on this one....it bodes ill for the whole country...one interview possibly sinks an election...good grief

re: #148 lesbianrainforest

I remember getting dinged down in a post just prior to the election for calling this POS a POS. Really had no idea then just how stinky this guy is. I'm glad the other guy won and I'm dead serious.

I voted for McCain knowing what he was.

Better a Rhino than a Marxist.

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

I had the impression (after the election) that Palin had been sabatoged by her own staffers...(for whatever reasons...--getting too much attention? jealous about her "star power"? apparently they kept insisting that she go out and do interviews with hostile media types, as opposed to doing interviews with friendlier sorts..)

re: #140 jamie

Considering that we haven't even sworn in the next President, don't you think it's perfectly appropriate to hold off on an endorsement, at least until after the 2010 midterms?

Of course not if we are going to follow the time line of the last election there is only a little over one hundred days until the next election starts.

re: #137 Killian Bundy

Sources: Obama chooses Chicago schools chief

/well, what could possibly go wrong with that choice?

I'd love to post this on my Facebook page. Are there any direct statistics, articles, etc to show just how BAD the Chicago education system is run?

re: #100 Iron Fist

Yeah, I've never liked Huckabee either. He had some conservative positions (like his stance on gun control), but his Big Government, big spending, fiscally Liberal streak just plain sucks.

Let's hope he takes a pass in 2012.

My Dem friends here in NM say Huckabee could have beaten Obama handily.

Good thing you won't be running in 2012 John. Please go back to being useless.

Why is everyone so angry that McCain isn't passing on the loser's mantle to Palin? I mean, if he had won, was coming to the end of a successful term and was asked if he endorsed VP Palin as his successor, his reticence would be petty and vile. But seeing as he lost, is his endorsement worth a warm bucket of spit?

Only a campaign as messed up as McCain's could have had an asset like Palin handed to them, and still choked.

That said, a major problem was still the inability to work around the MSM to get information out. How many people voted who had never heard one of the valid strikes against The One?

re: #127 vapig

100%. McCain cares a lot more about being "bipartisan" than he does about being Republican. That might be admirable, if he really was putting the Country first, but he isn't. Another thing that I held against him was his pro-terrorist policies when it came to Gitmo. And his whole anti-First Amendment "campaign finance reform".

He also didn't exactly do himself any favors by taking the Public money thereby sealing the fact that Obama would be able to massively outspend him.

McCain ran a poor campaign. It says something about Obama that he didn't win in a landslide.

re: #142 DEZes

Thanks! I've been wanting to find a copy of that poster. :-)

Well, it's all politics. I don't think you can expect McCain or any other Republican to endorse or even seem to be endorsing a candidate for 2012 now, hence the evasive replies.
I was much more ticked off at McCain's silence when Palin was being slandered immediately after the election.

re: #150 Wishing

Duncan spent a great deal of his free time at his mother's center tutoring children and sharpening his basketball skills with the neighborhood children.

LINK

More than just a neighbor of the president-elect, he's a basketball chum who was co-captain of Harvard's hoops squad.

McCain did not deserve to win, he never worked for it. Any support he got was because of Sarah Palin, and as pathetic as his campaign was, we do have him to thank for introducing her to the country. He did not lose the election because of her, she lost the election because of him and his namby pamby politically correct bullshit.

re: #138 albusteve

I just cant stand the bitch...she's too dirty for this hayseed

And no where have I said anything to the contrary of that. Just that I knew what I would be in for with her.

re: #158 stuiec

I don't care if he endorses her. I care that he is implying he doesn't.

re: #141 Wishing

Ok I 100% agree...at what level must this law be enacted? Is this on state or fed level?

It is the states responsibility to make election laws for their state. The Feds need to stay out.

re: #161 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Glad I helped.

re: #141 Wishing

Ok I 100% agree...at what level must this law be enacted? Is this on state or fed level?

Probably state. US Code is remarkably quiet on election law.

re: #157 NYCHardhat

Good thing you won't be running in 2012 John. Please go back to being useless.

When did he ever take a break from that?

while I really like Palin - I think she needs to Govern Alaska for a few years. She was thrown into the political piranha tank with little national experience (and a hostile unprofessional pro-Obama press) -- with the weight of John McCain's campaign on her shoulders. She did as well as anyone considering the circumstances, but now she must mature as a politician. There is a level of sophistication needed to appeal to a wider swath of people. Still, John McCain should show some class here. and he's not.

Certainly Obama might be a left-wing disaster, but when McCain opens his mouth, I don't feel so bad about McCain not winning.

btw - Palin was the only person with the guts to mock Obama. (/how dare she!) She gets huge courage points from me for that. She may have screwed up a few interviews - but she was brave.

re: #155 TheMatrix31

I'd love to post this on my Facebook page. Are there any direct statistics, articles, etc to show just how BAD the Chicago education system is run?

Billions in debt and a 40% grad rate.

That's plenty.

re: #152 jcm

I voted for McCain knowing what he was.

Better a Rhino than a Marxist.

I went to bed at 6:00 PM election night. Enough said.

BTW, same goes for Colin Powell. Call me old-fashioned, but I think that one prerequisite for dictating policy to the Republican Party as a self-labeled Republican is actually endorsing and voting for the Republican Presidential candidate in the general election.

re: #102 Ceemack

Y'know, if we wanted to read that kind of language, we could go to Daily Kos.

Then why don't you?

McCain's support and 75 cents will get you a cup of decalf...

re: #163 Wishing

Which, of course, makes one distinctly qualified to be education secretary.

I am going to wake up, right?

re: #137 Killian Bundy

Sources: Obama chooses Chicago schools chief

/well, what could possibly go wrong with that choice?

I'm glad my kid is in a private school.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Aaaaahhhhhh! Aaaaaahhhhh!

*running around in frustration, knowing this is probably inevitable*

re: #170 Sharmuta

When did he ever take a break from that?

When he suspended his campaign in order to bail us out.
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I voted for Palin, primarily to preserve her viability as a national figure, with the secondary bonus of getting John McCain out of the Senate before he could do any more damage.

McCain seriously needs to sit down and shut up.

re: #152 jcm

I voted for McCain knowing what he was.

Better a Rhino than a Marxist.

Absolutely. That's why I made the effort for McCain. We may never be able to undo the majority of Obama's socialist policies once he gets them in. The media is painting him as centrist. Bull shit. Another ploy to keep the sheeple sheeping.

re: #174 taxfreekiller

Get out, join the local party, go to the meetings, join the Republican mens or womens clubs, get on committees, become a prescient chair, get to be a county, state or national delegate. Get on candidate selection committees, get on the platform committee, get on the state party rules committee. Do something like that to stop the ID ones who now rule in Texas, in Penn. Arlen Spector has got to go, in Nevada some one needs to get the R's to get their act together and run a real deal and get that little tart Harry Reid out of our Senate. You guys in Mass. what the hell Kennedy and Kerry, what in the hell is wrong with you, are you all on the dole or what. Shummer is a shame and disgrace to each one of us.

like that
Stand up fight back, just do something.

McCain and the rest of them are giving you the middle finger live on TV .

I intend to, but I'm not giving the Republican party another penny until they start acting like Republicans (which I don't think we will ever see again).

There will be a civil war, with in 20 years.

re: #181 EmmmieG

Does she live in New York? Or just shop there?

re: #166 ArmyWife

I don't care if he endorses her. I care that he is implying he doesn't.

"Not weak-willed, bipartisan-obsessive and fawning enough to win McCain's endorsement."

Sounds like a campaign slogan to me!

2007 Chicago Schools Report Card

re: #121 ArmyWife

Curiously enough, during the '92 campaign I had a friend that was raised in Little Rock. While Clinton was triangulating his way to the Presidency, this guy kept going on and on about what a disaster Clinton was going to be if he was elected, and how many skeletons were really in his closet.

To be honest, none of us believed him. It seemed too far-fetched. surely if he were that bad the Republicans would be having a field-day with his scandals.

In hindsight, it was clear that my friend knew whereof he spoke. The country has paid a very high price for that mistake.

And now we have Obama. What could possibly go wrong?

re: #165 Sharmuta

And no where have I said anything to the contrary of that. Just that I knew what I would be in for with her.

I dont imagine you would have openly endorsed her 'pleasantries'...I know what you mean...it was a very tough call yet I dont think I copped out...voting for Mcain was a thing people had to do...you did the right thing imo

re: #126 Sharmuta

I don't know about you, but for myself--I voted McCain as a place holder, a hold the line candidate, not a Reagan Revolution. I never wanted to let Obama anywhere near the levers of power. That's a good reason, even when McCain was such a zombie.

re: #137 Killian Bundy

Sources: Obama chooses Chicago schools chief

/well, what could possibly go wrong with that choice?

We know CAC was used push Ayers agenda into Chicago public schools. And that Chicago schools cooperated with this effort.

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

There will be a civil war, with in 20 years.

Sooner if the national debt gets to the point that we cannot afford the interest.

/Won't be the first one generated by such a thing, I think that's what happened in pre-revolutionary France.

re: #187 ArmyWife

Does she live in New York? Or just shop there?

I don't know, but there have got to be at least two thousand people in that state who are better qualified than she is to be a US Senator. Nobody is born to be a senator. You have to earn it.

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

There will be a civil war, with in 20 years.

Sometimes I beleive that too, I pray its not true.

re: #187 ArmyWife

Does she live in New York? Or just shop there?

Now what does that matter to New Yorkers, or at least the ones that voted Hillary and her carpetbag into the Senate?

I wish McCain would just join the Democratic Party and get it over with. He has more in common with them the Republicans.
McCain is like the crazy ole relative that says something mean and stupid at the most inopportune times.

re: #155 TheMatrix31

I'd love to post this on my Facebook page. Are there any direct statistics, articles, etc to show just how BAD the Chicago education system is run?

/try starting here or here

Saracuda gave Johnny Mac a shot. Without her he would have been killed instead of soundly beaten.

re: #160 Iron Fist

Once Obama backed out of public financing, McCain should have done the same.

re: #174 taxfreekiller

Get out, join the local party, go to the meetings, join the Republican mens or womens clubs, get on committees, become a prescient chair, get to be a county, state or national delegate. Get on candidate selection committees, get on the platform committee, get on the state party rules committee. Do something like that to stop the ID ones who now rule in Texas, in Penn. Arlen Spector has got to go, in Nevada some one needs to get the R's to get their act together and run a real deal and get that little tart Harry Reid out of our Senate. You guys in Mass. what the hell Kennedy and Kerry, what in the hell is wrong with you, are you all on the dole or what. Shummer is a shame and disgrace to each one of us.

like that
Stand up fight back, just do something.

McCain and the rest of them are giving you the middle finger live on TV .

LISTEN TO TFK!

McCain is a useful idiot for lefties. At this point his influence is zero and his endorsement is probably detrimental.

My favorite McCain moments are those where conservatives are rightly outraged (e.g. at Blagojevich, Rev Wright, Bill Ayers etc.) and McMoron tells them to stop being angry.

re: #154 kcladderman

Of course not if we are going to follow the time line of the last election there is only a little over one hundred days until the next election starts.

Yes, but you don't exactly see the endorsements flying at this stage. I think it's perfectly appropriate to keep quiet right now. He doesn't know who will be running.

Well, John McCain is certainly revealing himself to be a bitter old jerk. Gore at least had the decency to wait until the next election to stab Lieberman in the back. What a grouchy old sore loser.

re: #197 OldLineTexan

I know, I just thought maybe they learned something. It was just a moment of insanity on my part. It won't happen again.

re: #205 Jamie

Yes, but you don't exactly see the endorsements flying at this stage. I think it's perfectly appropriate to keep quiet right now. He doesn't know who will be running.

I forgot the sarc tag

re: #199 Killian Bundy

Stealing for my blog, k?

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

I intend to, but I'm not giving the Republican party another penny until they start acting like Republicans (which I don't think we will ever see again).

There will be a civil war, with in 20 years.

I'm ready.

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

I intend to, but I'm not giving the Republican party another penny until they start acting like Republicans (which I don't think we will ever see again).

There will be a civil war, with in 20 years.

I believe that too. Things are starting to look too much like the 1850's. Only this time it won't be the north against the south.

re: #141 Wishing

Ok I 100% agree...at what level must this law be enacted? Is this on state or fed level?

Federal level. The states would come on board by default. It would look wonky as heck to be voting in the state election, but be banned from voting in the federal one. That would create a situation only SeeBS could ignore.

re: #206 eastvillageinfidel

Well, John McCain is certainly revealing himself to be a bitter old jerk. Gore at least had the decency to wait until the next election to stab Lieberman in the back. What a grouchy old sore loser.

WOW, your right.
Gore shows more class than McCain, My head hurts now.

re: #172 buzzsawmonkey

The overblown elections that we have developed increase the likelihood that one properly-placed error can destroy a campaign. The Couric interview did precisely what it was intended to do; knock the supports out from under Palin to give the Obama campaign time to recover from its initial disequilibrium.

and the GoP didnt see it coming or steer a path otherwise before the fact...pathetic...how in the world can the GoP recover and get some game when they seem so behind the curve?...I'm not optimistic...maybe BO will shoot himself in the foot but if he does who will care...we're DOOMED!...heh

McCain is "dead to me".... to quote may infamous movie lines.

McCain has shamed himself. Palin did more for his campaign than he did.
Sad, sad, small parsimonious man.

re: #211 maddogg

I believe that too. Things are starting to look too much like the 1850's. Only this time it won't be the north against the south.

In vs Out?

re: #179 ArmyWife

Which, of course, makes one distinctly qualified to be education secretary.

I am going to wake up, right?

Same kind of qualifications Kennedy has to be a Senator.

re: #153 J.S.

I had the impression (after the election) that Palin had been sabatoged by her own staffers...(for whatever reasons...--getting too much attention? jealous about her "star power"? apparently they kept insisting that she go out and do interviews with hostile media types, as opposed to doing interviews with friendlier sorts..)

remember that those staffers were McCains people, not hers.

re: #156 songbird

New Mexico? I don't know enough about the local policy to really evaluate that. Certainly around here (Tenneese) it was obvious that McCain was going to stomp Obama in this state. Huckabee would probably done as well here. But Tennesee is very conservative. Even the Democrats tread to the right on issues like gun control.

I don't know that any Republican could have won this year. Obama had so many advantages from the lap dog press to fundraising from the big money doners, it was all good for Obama.

McCain certainly did his part to get Obama elected, though.

re: #89 nyc redneck

we can't let the msm pick our candidate for pouts ever again.

i can't believe i actually wrote "pouts" for potus.
wtf.

re: #203 Sharmuta

LISTEN TO TFK!

I always do....he's good spirits

re: #221 nyc redneck

i can't believe i actually wrote "pouts" for potus.
wtf.

Works for me. You've seen Obama, right?

I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this whole thing seems odd. McCain beats up on the Repubs to get the nomination only to hang back and play the good guy to a Marxist. I feel that this was a setup from the word go.

re: #162 wolfie

I was much more ticked off at McCain's silence when Palin was being slandered immediately after the election.

That is a good point. It was absolutely appalling. McCain didn't give a rat's ass about her, about the Republican Party, or about his "friends" who didn't carry him on their backs into the Oval Office. Feh.

re: #221 nyc redneck

i can't believe i actually wrote "pouts" for potus.
wtf.

Give it six months; you may be psychic.

Stephanopoulos: Senator McCain - will you be endorsing John Crist in 2012?

McCain : Si

Please let this man lose his Senate primary Arizona.

re: #226 buzzsawmonkey

The GOP is stumbling around like the Fred Thompson campaign under a Randi Rhodes-level load of alcohol.

Now thats funny!

re: #221 nyc redneck

Actually, 'pouts' seems like fair description of McCain. :)

McCain: the Potemkin Candidate

there was nothing there
he did not run for POTUS
not even a walk

he sat it out essentially

to harken back to my childhood days

he was the best player on the other team

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

I intend to, but I'm not giving the Republican party another penny until they start acting like Republicans (which I don't think we will ever see again).

There will be a civil war, with in 20 years.

If anything were to happen to Obamanation, we would erupt into civil war. That is why I'd hate to see Berg et al succeed.
I hope Obama turns out to be the best president ever, but I'm not holding my breath, only my nose.

re: #224 NYCHardhat

I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this whole thing seems odd. McCain beats up on the Repubs to get the nomination only to hang back and play the good guy to a Marxist. I feel that this was a setup from the word go.

Set up is right! Just like Ross Perot was working with Bubba to peel off votes from George H.W. Bush. Bubba would never have been President were it not for Ross Thetroll.

re: #217 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

In vs Out?

Americans vs socialist scum. No clear battle lines except in certain areas.

I'm not gonna pile on. Dude is a war hero.

re: #226 buzzsawmonkey

The GOP is stumbling around like the Fred Thompson campaign under a Randi Rhodes-level load of alcohol.

right...political party walks out of a bar...now I want a drink

Who gives a shit?

re: #209 ArmyWife

Stealing for my blog, k?

/I don't care, they're not my links anyway

What a loser.

re: #236 Racer X

I'm not gonna pile on. Dude is a war hero.

True, but he is not the same man he was back then. Problem is, it shows.

re: #194 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Sooner if the national debt gets to the point that we cannot afford the interest.

/Won't be the first one generated by such a thing, I think that's what happened in pre-revolutionary France.

And what was the most important innovation of that time that really helped organized the whole affair? Pamphleteering. The printing press opened up the ability of the populace to spread their ideas and concerns.

And we have the same communicative revolution happening right now, you are using it right now, and it has already been used as an enabler of war and fighting.

The Internet.

History always repeats itself.

How can he endorse someone so stupid they don't know when the First World War occurred?

-Wait, that was Obama-

This is why I did not vote. McCain can't endorse someone from outside that pig trough called the beltway. First conservative to light a broom on fire and lead the charge toward "New Moscow" (D.C.) gets all my support. Reelect no one.

My McCain/Palin sticker on my car had the McCain portion removed from the start.

Fucking A.

Is this like that Star Trek episode where LGF turns into KOS?

re: #236 Racer X

I'm not gonna pile on. Dude is a war hero.

good for you...thanks for the reminder....party politics is hardly everything

re: #242 Walter L. Newton

And what was the most important innovation of that time that really helped organized the whole affair? Pamphleteering. The printing press opened up the ability of the populace to spread their ideas and concerns.

And we have the same communicative revolution happening right now, you are using it right now, and it has already been used as an enabler of war and fighting.

The Internet.

History always repeats itself.

Nice analogy. Upding.

re: #233 JeremyR

If anything were to happen to Obamanation, we would erupt into civil war. That is why I'd hate to see Berg et al succeed.
I hope Obama turns out to be the best president ever, but I'm not holding my breath, only my nose.

I'm not talking about a "right or left" civil war. I'm not talking about a civil war if Obama gets hurt or killed.

I'm talking about a civil war supported by all flavors of Americans who will not accept the plutocracy that is running this country.

re: #234 Truck Monkey

Set up is right! Just like Ross Perot was working with Bubba to peel off votes from George H.W. Bush. Bubba would never have been President were it not for Ross Thetroll.

Clinton would have won that race without Perot. Perot really only cost GHWB Montana and Ohio, significantly less than the margin of victory.

re: #236 Racer X

I'm not gonna pile on. Dude is a war hero.

He is a war hero.

But has a politician is not much.

Randy "Duke" Cunningham is a war hero.

As a politician he's a felon.

Just because the served admirably in one venue, doesn't give them a pass in another. Buys them points. But as they say; one aww-shit wipes out a thousand atta-boys.

re: #185 Walter L. Newton
There will be a civil war, with in 20 years.
re: #210 NYCHardhat

I'm ready.

We all better hope there is not, we can't afford to be that weakened. It may be that events will intervene, to galvanize this country into a semblance of unity. We need to be united to face the real threat of attack, even invasion, from outside our borders--in order to de-fang the fifth column that operates our propaganda machine and milks to money cow.

Despicable.

I'm out.

re: #246 Racer X

Fucking A.

Is this like that Star Trek episode where LGF turns into KOS?

Only if we see Charles with a goatee. That's the dead giveaway.

re: #185 Walter L. Newton

I don't think most Americans know how close we came to that in 1994. Instead of going to war, we went and voted, and the Democrats lost the House and Senate for the first time.

There's some hope that we can do the same, but I'll admit it looks grim. The Republicans were a big disappointment in the long run. They had the government, but they didn't really do that much with it. Why should we vote them into power again?

re: #242 Walter L. Newton

Ding!
Now lets become the ultimate pampleteers.

re: #248 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Nice analogy. Upding.

you are more than an Orson Wells look alike...good insight...do you have that wrist rocket yet?

That politician should have never been saddled with that anchor.

She would have done better on her own, although I still greatly respect John McCain.

re: #241 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

True, but he is not the same man he was back then. Problem is, it shows.

The North Vietnamese used the wrong approach. It's easy to remember that someone is your enemy when he's physically torturing you.

But when he's joking and chatting over your 3,000th bowl of navy bean soup in the Senate cafeteria, he starts seeming like your best buddy.

re: #246 Racer X

Fucking A.

Is this like that Star Trek episode where LGF turns into KOS?

No. I took mac at his word when he asked us to put country first. I did that. I set aside my personal feelings on the man and voted for him because I felt he'd be better than the alternative.

However- I feel free to now revert to my previous position on the man. God love him for his service to the country. Other than that- he can kiss my ass for being a two-bit back stabber.

re: #236 Racer X

I'm not gonna pile on. Dude is a war hero.

Maybe i read this wrong today..
But I think McCain really tried to deflect any questions about Sarah..
I felt the MSM tried to twist his words..
He humbly said something like..My corps isn't even cold yet and you want me to throw my backing to a possible Candidate?..Call the hoopster crazy but that is a game played during the primary season..not after a national election..It isn't a fair question for any citizen much less McCain..

re: #199 Killian Bundy

/try starting here or here

Appreciate those, KB!

re: #248 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Nice analogy. Upding.

Thanks. And understand, I am not calling for civil war. But I'm projecting, predicting, making possible assumptions from past history and comparing it to current events.

It's not looking good.

re: #236 Racer X

He's not acting like one at the moment. Sorry.

re: #252 Joan

re: #185 Walter L. Newton
There will be a civil war, with in 20 years.

We all better hope there is not, we can't afford to be that weakened. It may be that events will intervene, to galvanize this country into a semblance of unity. We need to be united to face the real threat of attack, even invasion, from outside our borders--in order to de-fang the fifth column that operates our propaganda machine and milks to money cow.

I hope you're right because I have had enough and sometimes I wonder if we are heading towards a revolution.

re: #236 Racer X

I respect him for this. I will ALWAYS respect him for this. It does not, however, give him carte blanche to be an ass. If he wants to be a Dem then be one Dammit. I'd respect that, too.

re: #190 Iron Fist

Curiously enough, during the '92 campaign I had a friend that was raised in Little Rock. While Clinton was triangulating his way to the Presidency, this guy kept going on and on about what a disaster Clinton was going to be if he was elected, and how many skeletons were really in his closet.

To be honest, none of us believed him. It seemed too far-fetched. surely if he were that bad the Republicans would be having a field-day with his scandals.

In hindsight, it was clear that my friend knew whereof he spoke. The country has paid a very high price for that mistake.

And now we have Obama. What could possibly go wrong?

Same thing happened to me. I have several associates in Little Rock, apparently Clinton was handled with kid gloves there and tolerated as a horny dog, no one expected him to jump to the national arena with all that baggage and his propensity to seek out willing females. Never underestimate the power of the press to suppress facts when it involves their party - look at how long Edwards was able to hide his love child. And was it the MSM that exposed him? No - a checkout rag did it.

Yes, but you don't exactly see the endorsements flying at this stage. I think it's perfectly appropriate to keep quiet right now. He doesn't know who will be running.

Totally agree, but his comments to clarify his statement were that he admired her. He could have at least said she could be a good Presidential candidate if she chooses - along with Many other Republicans.

But he just said he admired her. For all we know - he was admiring her legs.

McCain just used Palin to lock up Republican support - which he couldn't do on his own. If he never picked Palin - or somebody else conservative - I'd have sat home ELection day. Instead - I voted - and cursed my actions when I got home for supporting such a RINO. Frankly I was kindof relieved when he lost. He'd be a tolerable Democrat - but he's cancer for the party - when he identifies with the Republican party.

McCain is about McCain. Nothing else.

re: #236 Racer X

I'm not gonna pile on. Dude is a war hero.

I'd vote for him all over again for that reason alone. No way I wouldn't vote for the guy who was rotting in the Hanoi Hilton while Obama pals Ayers, Dohrn, et al. were acting out their spoiled brat dramas and openly rooting for the enemy.
I don't doubt McCain's patriotism and I basically trust him as much as any politician when it comes to national defense.