Explosives Found in Paris Department Store

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World • Tue Dec 16, 2008 at 9:43 am PST • Views: 212

Police have discovered five sticks of dynamite at Paris department store Printemps (with no detonators), after an AFP office received a warning letter.

French news agency Agence France-Presse said it received a letter Tuesday morning from a group calling itself the Afghan Revolutionary Front saying that several bombs had been planted in the store. Police said they searched the store and found the dynamite because of the warning.

Alliot-Marie said the group was “totally unknown” to police but that the claim was being studied.

In the letter, the group demanded the withdrawal of French troops from Afghanistan before the end of February, and threatened attacks if France refuses.

“Otherwise we will go back into action in your big capitalist stores and this time without warning you,” the letter said, according to AFP.

This does not look like the work of Islamic terrorists, because of the warnings (they don’t give warnings), the lack of detonators (their bombs are never just symbolic), and the fact that there was apparently no mention of Islam in the warning letter. There are plenty of home-grown French radical leftists, anarchists, and/or fascists who might pull a stunt like this.

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1 noshariaincanada  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:44:15am

Will this be considered terrorism or activism by the MSM ?

2 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:44:28am

That'll learn 'em to raise prices on women's shoes!

3 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:44:30am

Darn those non-sectarian youths!

4 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:44:45am

I'm betting on leftists but it could be anybody.

5 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:45:44am
6 debutaunt  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:45:52am

Did the whole chain of stores surrender?

7 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:46:16am
There are plenty of home-grown French radical leftists, anarchists, and/or fascists who might pull a stunt like this.

What do they do? Mime explosions?

8 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:46:45am

re: #7 Ford_Prefect

What do they do? Mime explosions?

No point. Where would the outrage come from? Heh.

9 JHW  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:46:52am

Any connection to the anarchic situation in Greece I wonder, which has been reported to have a bit of sympathy in certain quarters elsewhere in Europe. Anti- globalization nuts?

10 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:46:54am

"capitalist"
IIRC, that's right out of the Quran!

/

11 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:46:58am

this brings a new meaning to the concept of "fashion commentary"

12 Pyrocles  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:47:11am

The letter mentions "big capitalist stores", so I'd say it's some nutjob Leftist group. Islamists would probably use "infidel" or "kuffar" instead :%P%

13 Kragar  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:48:00am

You can tell it probably wasn't Muslims due to the detonators. These sound like timed or remote detonated devices. Muslim detonators are usally named Mohamed or Achmed.

14 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:48:19am

Leave it to a French terrorist to leave a bomb that doesn't do anything.

15 Nevergiveup  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:48:39am

I wonder what that stores return policy?

16 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:48:47am

Anarchists want anarchy?
Give it to them.
All the way.

/a masked stranger just broke in and typed that!

17 Kragar  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:49:00am

re: #15 Nevergiveup

I wonder what that stores return policy?

NON!

18 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:49:09am

This does not look like the work of Islamic terrorists, because of the warnings (they don’t give them), the lack of detonators (their bombs are never just symbolic)


This shows that we are better.

maybe this needs a tag?

19 maddogg  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:49:43am

Police have discovered five sticks of dynamite at Paris department store


Well of course they did. They were in the Explosive/Jihadi Supply Dept.

20 CIA Reject  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:49:58am

Expect this kind of nonsense to become commonplace in the US after January 20.

21 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:50:17am

re: #14 Ford_Prefect

Leave it to a French terrorist to leave a bomb that doesn't do anything.

Couldn't they have just left a Jerry Lewis DVD?

22 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:50:36am

re: #20 CIA Reject

Why?

23 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:50:57am

re: #19 maddogg

Police have discovered five sticks of dynamite at Paris department store


Well of course they did. They were in the Explosive/Jihadi Supply Dept.

"OUR PRICES ARE INSANE!"

24 moogie  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:51:00am

The French have long ago forgotten their own history! They need to remember the Battle of Tours and Charles Martel!

25 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:51:15am
26 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:51:39am

re: #24 moogie

The first battle of the Marne as well.

27 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:51:43am

There certainly seems to be a lot of humor thrown about here with regard to this very serious situation. Maybe I just don't get it. But I'm not laughing.

28 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:51:49am
29 maddogg  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:51:55am

They were right next to the designer suicide vests. 5 colors!

30 Opinionated  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:52:10am
This does not look like the work of Islamic terrorists

I suspect just a Frenchman in the neighborhood.

Someone who really doesn't mean to hurt people and in the future may be a "respected professor" in Chicago.

31 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:52:24am

Blowout sale.

32 snowcrash  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:52:46am

re: #25 buzzsawmonkey
Galeries Lafayette for me!

33 Kragar  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:52:58am

re: #29 maddogg

They were right next to the designer suicide vests. 5 colors!

Silly. There is only one classic color for suicide vests. Blew.

34 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:53:04am

Could be one of those new French violent non-voilence groups.

You can see their manifesto

we will use every means necessary to advance our cause and threaten maximum destruction of lives and property with the sole exception of actually causing the threatened mayhem.

But our press releases will be first rate! You will yield to our demands or we will become even more violently non-violent in the future.

Yeah, that it.

35 J.S.  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:53:18am

typo in the highlighted (blue) headline. The department store name in Paris is Printemps (spring)...

36 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:53:59am

That location, Printemps Haussman, is basically a bit north-west of Paris Central. Big train station a few blocks away. Saint Lazare and The North station (connections west all the way to England).

That would be too close for me. I wonder if it is a test run?

37 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:54:24am

re: #21 Wyatt Earp

Couldn't they have just left a Jerry Lewis DVD?

That would be a crime against humanity.

38 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:54:34am

re: #31 Ojoe

Blowout sale.

Total door buster.

39 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:55:02am

You are probaby correct in this, however I've also noted some terror groups in a 'conversion' process from Islamist back to old style marxist ala original PFLP.

This does not bode well if that's the case and the groups are reuniting with Euro marxists again. There are remnants of Marxist groups in Afghanistan still, but I highly doubt this really originated there. Looks more Euro-leftist to me.

40 maddogg  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:55:10am

Personally, I can't understand why explosive jockstraps haven't caught on with the splodydope crowd.

41 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:55:24am

re: #31 Ojoe

Blowout sale.

Naw, it was just meant to keep the police on the stick.

42 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:55:42am

re: #38 FrogMarch


Smoke damaged remnants

better laugh while you can

43 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:55:42am

Wasn't there a French fashion show not so long ago that had models going down the runway in fake bomb vests? (can't find the link right now)

France is the European epicenter of "pro-Palestinian" thought and politics, and yet it still buys them no peace.

Serves them right.

44 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:56:16am

re: #40 maddogg

Personally, I can't understand why explosive jockstraps haven't caught on with the splodydope crowd.

Because terrorists don't have the balls to fill them.

45 father_of_10  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:56:29am

re: #38 FrogMarch

Total door buster.

Explosive Grand Opening! It'll be a BLAST!

46 maddogg  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:56:44am

re: #44 Ford_Prefect

Because terrorists don't have the balls to fill them.

Before, or after?

47 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:56:58am

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Silly. There is only one classic color for suicide vests. Blew.

How about Violent?

48 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:56:59am

Now pull out of Afghanistan or we shall taunt you a second time!

49 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:57:02am

re: #46 maddogg

Before, or after?

Yes.

50 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:57:20am

So what.

Hamas was having a DIY suicide vest kit sale. The holiday season is tough this year - markdowns on everything.

/

51 Opinionated  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:57:24am

re: #43 Lizard by the Bay

France is the European epicenter of "pro-Palestinian" thought and politics, and yet it still buys them no peace.

London is giving them a run for that title and may be surpassing them.

52 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:57:34am

Where any of Bill Ayers friends seen in the vicinity?

53 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:57:50am

Dented cans 1/2 price

54 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:58:06am

re: #52 Thanos

Where any of Bill Ayers friends seen in the vicinity?

It was France. They were everywhere.

55 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:58:19am

re: #43 Lizard by the Bay

a French fashion show not so long ago that had models going down the runway in fake bomb vests?

REALLY?! *grin*
If you happen to remember how to find something on it, please pass it along.

56 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:58:26am

re: #22 Ojoe

Why?

Because that's the day we go from being a country that defends itself to a country which apologizes to the world for existing.

57 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:58:32am

Overcooked weenie sale

(I better quit.)

BBL

58 AuntAcid  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:58:35am

re: #40 maddogg

Personally, I can't understand why explosive jockstraps haven't caught on with the splodydope crowd.

Should be plenty of room.

59 Kragar  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:58:42am

re: #47 Conservative in Liberal Hands

How about Violent?

Never after Eid.

60 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:58:59am

re: #56 Lizard by the Bay

I see.

This has been a trend.

61 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:59:13am

re: #36 Walter L. Newton

That location, Printemps Haussman, is basically a bit north-west of Paris Central. Big train station a few blocks away. Saint Lazare and The North station (connections west all the way to England).

That would be too close for me. I wonder if it is a test run?

Now that I re-read my own post, that area is also the big shopping area of Paris, sort of like a lot of mid-priced stores (Macy like stores).

It could have been a way to interrupt the Christmas shopping in Paris.

(Hell, all the would have had to do to do that would be to send about 25 people into the store and start asking French sales clerks for help. That would have brought the store to a stand still)

62 The Hoopster  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:59:28am

re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Never after Eid.


I think it was a fire sale.

63 Adrenalyn  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:59:31am

yes, the bombs had to have been made in France
since they just surrendered all by themselves

64 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:59:35am

Only way to keep out the Wal-Mart crowd

65 jcm  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:59:38am

re: #50 karmic_inquisitor

So what.

Hamas was having a DIY suicide vest kit sale. The holiday season is tough this year - markdowns on everything.

/

Those come with a life time warranty, don't ya' know!

66 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:59:42am

re: #52 Thanos

Where any of Bill Ayers friends seen in the vicinity?

They are using the new OSHA approved terrorist bombs. Detonators were forbidden since they were deemed too dangerous after the 'Friends of Bill Ayers' incident.

67 maddogg  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:59:42am

re: #52 Thanos

Where any of Bill Ayers friends seen in the vicinity?

Billy boy was reportedly seen trying out strap-ons in the men's dressing room.

68 debutaunt  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 9:59:56am

re: #48 CyanSnowHawk

Now pull out of Afghanistan or we shall taunt you a second time!

hahahaahahahahahahhaahhhaaa

69 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:00:07am
“Otherwise we will go back into action in your big capitalist stores and this time without warning you,”


Where terrorism and Marxism collide.

70 Kragar  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:00:10am

British-Iraqi Doctor Convicted in Failed London, Glasgow Attacks

A London court has convicted a British doctor of Iraqi origin of carrying out failed bomb attacks in London and at Glasgow airport in Scotland last year.

The court found Bilal Abdulla guilty Tuesday of conspiracy to murder and conspiracy to cause explosions. The 29-year-old will be sentenced Wednesday. It acquitted his co-defendant, Jordanian neurologist Mohammed Asha, of all charges.

71 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:00:19am

This reminds me, there was a bank bombed in Paris iirc.. let me see if I can dig that up.

72 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:00:41am

re: #51 Opinionated

London is giving them a run for that title and may be surpassing them.

London's problems are Muslim in nature, but Palis are rare. Britain's Muslims are mostly Pakistani, Indian, and Afghani. Yes, every Muslim piles on the "Palestinian cause", but France is lousy with actual Palestinians and they're much more , um, "active".

73 Adrenalyn  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:00:52am

re: #56 Lizard by the Bay

Because that's the day we go from being a country that defends itself to a country which apologizes to the world for existing.

I think we already are apologizing for existing
the MSM has done that
and Bush has not helped with his
"Islam is a religion of peace" nonsense

74 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:00:56am

re: #47 Conservative in Liberal Hands

How about Violent?

Yell Ow?

75 CIA Reject  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:01:05am

re: #22 Ojoe

Why?

I think, but cannot prove, that a large number of whacko "activist" groups will be emboldened by what they perceive to be a weakened law enforcement environment under the BO administration.

Also I suspect that BO will attempt to re-establish some of the Clinton-era separations between Law Enforcement and intelligence with the result being that many of the incidents that have been prevented in recent years will occur.

It's just what I think based on my observation of the situation.

76 Ojoe  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:01:36am

re: #75 CIA Reject

Ugh.

77 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:01:46am
78 apachegunner  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:02:17am

was that a "man" bag? re: #5 buzzsawmonkey

79 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:02:28am

re: #14 Ford_Prefect

Leave it to a French terrorist to leave a bomb that doesn't do anything.

Gramscian Snore

80 uncc_compman  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:02:47am

re: #75 CIA Reject

I think, but cannot prove, that a large number of whacko "activist" groups will be emboldened by what they perceive to be a weakened law enforcement environment under the BO administration.

Also I suspect that BO will attempt to re-establish some of the Clinton-era separations between Law Enforcement and intelligence with the result being that many of the incidents that have been prevented in recent years will occur.

It's just what I think based on my observation of the situation.

And if that does happen ( may it never), I bet it gets blamed on Bush.

81 father_of_10  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:02:50am
82 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:02:59am

re: #14 Ford_Prefect

Leave it to a French terrorist to leave a bomb that doesn't do anything.

It's on strike.

83 father_of_10  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:03:47am

re: #53 Ojoe

Dented cans 1/2 price

It's a Dynamite Sale!

84 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:03:55am

re: #79 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Gramscian Snore

Heh.

85 debutaunt  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:04:03am

re: #82 Lizard by the Bay

It's on strike.

Picket signs with images of undetonated explosives - subtle!

86 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:04:14am

re: #1 noshariaincanada

Will this be considered terrorism or activism by the MSM ?

I'd vote for incompetence by today's standards of mayhem.

87 maddogg  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:04:20am

If we really want to render the terrorists ineffective, we should send in the UAW to organize them.

88 Adrenalyn  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:04:32am

definitely not Muslim-made bombs

they would have appeared in a pizza parlor, not a grocery store

ablownup Snackbar !

89 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:04:44am

re: #85 debutaunt

Picket signs with images of undetonated explosives - subtle!

Hey hey, Ho ho, better pay or we won't blow!

90 JHW  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:05:06am

I wonder how she's reporting it.
Melissa Theuriau

Smokin'

91 Racer X  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:05:31am

Terrorist attacks Mount Wilson observatory - live shot!

92 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:05:38am

re: #74 eschew_obfuscation

Yell Ow?

Yell OUCH! If you ask me...

93 debutaunt  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:05:42am

re: #89 CyanSnowHawk

Hey hey, Ho ho, better pay or we won't blow!

What don't we want? When don't we want it?

94 jcm  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:05:48am

re: #83 father_of_10

It's a Dynamite Sale!

Blow out pricing!

95 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:05:50am

I'm not totally sure that this isn't the work of Muslim terrorists, albeit ones that are attempting to sway public opinion in the IRA/ETA mold, rather than the mass carnage of the al Qaedaists.

The goals are the same - to terrorize and to force a change in government policy. This attack was a warning sign. The next time it might not end safely and without incident.

96 Nevergiveup  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:06:10am

re: #90 JHW

I wonder how she's reporting it.
Melissa Theuriau

Smokin'

Wow--who is that?

97 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:06:27am

argh, disregard that last link, that was 1982, there was a bomb in paris recently. let me keep digging.

Charles can you remove?

98 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:06:35am

re: #91 Racer X

Heh.

99 Ben Hur  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:06:40am

Posers.

100 Buck  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:07:06am

re: #5 buzzsawmonkey

Not surprising. I remember my bag being searched by security when I went into a Paris department store 20 years ago. Innocent that I was, I was outraged that they thought I looked like a shoplifter, and bewildered that they would search my bag before I got into the store.

A week later a bomb went off in that same store.

In Manila (where I visit often on business) they are supposed to check every bag and even search people before they enter the store. The check under every car and in the trunk as cars approach hotels and parking garages. Although they seem to get lax and just seem to be going through the motions.

I stay at the Intercon in Makati City, and in October last year, as I was leaving the hotel in a cab, the mall across the street was bombed.

101 jcm  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:07:09am

re: #91 Racer X

Terrorist attacks Mount Wilson observatory - live shot!

HAH! That's what they get for saying the universe is billions of years old!
//

102 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:07:25am

re: #88 Adrenalyn

definitely not Muslim-made bombs

they would have appeared in a pizza parlor, not a grocery store

ablownup Snackbar !

They have a right to be upset about pepperoni being served within 30 blocks of some Muslim's house. Don't you have any respect for foreign cultures?

/yes, it's sarc

103 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:07:42am

did anybody see the CPI report this morning... Talk about detonating inflation...

104 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:07:49am

Not too suprising they'd try it in a French department store since they have made the same attempts in US shopping centers. Remember the guy who wanted to use nail bombs at the Cherryvale Mall in Rockford, Illinois? It may only be a matter of time until they're successful at this.

105 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:08:06am

re: #91 Racer X

Terrorist attacks Mount Wilson observatory - live shot!

LOL!

106 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:08:37am

re: #90 JHW

I wonder how she's reporting it.
Melissa Theuriau

Smokin'

Wow, she's gorgeous. I'm off to google for the topless pics.

107 Adrenalyn  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:08:52am

re: #102 Lizard by the Bay

They have a right to be upset about pepperoni being served within 30 blocks of some Muslim's house. Don't you have any respect for foreign cultures?

/yes, it's sarc

hey, we're getting snow, snow and more snow up here
I don't miss the bay area when it looks like this out the window

108 JHW  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:08:55am

re: #96 Nevergiveup

Here's another link on her, I find her quite easy to watch, even though I don't understand French.
Melissa Theuriau isn't shy

109 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:09:16am

How does one say "kiss my ass" in French?

110 Kragar  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:09:19am

re: #96 Nevergiveup

Wow--who is that?

I'll go out on a limb and say her name is Melissa Theuriau

111 realwest  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:09:35am

Well clearly Charles is right about the possibility of it being some other whacko group, not Islamic Jihadists.
But of course they have to investigate - the fact that there was a warning and no detonation caps or other devices I think PROBABLY means it was meant as a warning - real dynamite needs to be handled carefully (and if it's "sweating" not at all!) but it doesn't take any kind of genius to figure out how to set it off.

Wonder if this could be an attempt by some folks to "rouse" French sympathy against the Islamic jihadists?

112 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:09:36am

re: #91 Racer X

Godzilla likes Snow!

113 Adrenalyn  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:10:11am

re: #110 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'll go out on a limb and say her name is Melissa Theuriau

Foxnews better send H-R out to recruit her quick

114 Buck  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:11:39am

Does anyone know where Billy the Terrorist is?

115 Adrenalyn  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:11:52am

hey, when are the awards nominations going to happen this year ?

116 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:12:02am

Here we go, it was a parcel bomb

[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]

117 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:12:06am

re: #104 Honorary Yooper

It may only be is a matter of time until they're successful at this.

Bombing a soft target with homemade explosives is so damn easy and cheap it's a wonder we haven't seen more of it. Actually, it's no wonder at all. The hate for Bush was a mask for the fear of Bush. Guantanamo really scares the s*@t out of these people, and the moonbat conspiraces of torture and "disappearing citizens" only helped enhance the legend.

With the fear of Bush gone, expect booms soon.

118 realwest  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:12:44am

re: #27 unrealizedviewpoint
I updinged you for your comment, but given that there isn't anything WE can do about what clearly could be a true threat, I think a lot of folks just "cope" with the situation by using humor.

119 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:12:50am

re: #113 Adrenalyn

Foxnews better send H-R out to recruit her quick

I say she would likely be a good replacement for Alan Colmes. Being French she must be a lib.

120 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:13:48am

re: #116 Thanos

Here we go, it was a parcel bomb

[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]

What good does a partial bomb do? oh, wait...never mind.

121 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:13:52am

re: #107 Adrenalyn

hey, we're getting snow, snow and more snow up here
I don't miss the bay area when it looks like this out the window

Funny you should metion that. The Bay Area is getting dumped on by snow at elevation above only 800 feet! And it's sticking! They've been plowing 17 all day just to keep it open.

Damn all this global warming...

122 realwest  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:14:07am

re: #116 Thanos
Hey Thanos, for some reason your link didn't open for me - since IIRC it's your blog, you might want to check it.

123 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:14:19am

re: #108 JHW
Wow!
Hottie alert!

124 bosforus  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:14:24am
Explosives Found in Paris Department Store


Fortunately, Winona Ryder was there and was able to sneak out without incident.

125 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:14:28am
126 akak  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:14:28am
The Pakistan government has decided not to dismantle the vast infrastructure of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa

/terror state to be spatshat upon.

127 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:14:28am
128 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:14:40am

re: #101 jcm

HAH! That's what they get for saying the universe is billions of years old!
//

*grin*
Check your email in a few minutes.
Am about to compose the message and attach a pair of jpgs.

129 bosforus  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:14:46am

re: #124 bosforus

Fortunately, Winona Ryder was there and was able to sneak it out without incident.

PIMF

130 Outrider  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:14:59am

re: #109 MandyManners

How does one say "kiss my ass" in French?

I was curious so I googled it, "baiser mon cul"

That sound right to anyone that speaks surrender monkey lingo?

131 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:15:17am

There was also this terror interruptus incident earlier this year:

[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]

132 maddogg  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:15:30am

re: #109 MandyManners

How does one say "kiss my ass" in French?

Is this a test?

/baiser mon cul

/yeah, I cheated

133 Cognito  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:15:32am

Hmm. The Afghan Revolutionary Front. The phrase "your big capitalist stores" strikes me as reminiscent of privileged home-grown ennui, more than the typical jihadi language. First impression, at least.

134 apachegunner  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:15:38am

man oh man, those SF streets like Powell Ave and Market St, in the hills must be scary when slick with snow. Do they actually plow those city streets? re: #121 Lizard by the Bay

135 JHW  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:15:54am

re: #123 reloadingisnotahobby

Yep for sure, my wife is giving me "that" look right now, I'd better be careful.

136 saberry0530  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:16:14am

re: #130 Outrider

I was curious so I googled it, "baiser mon cul"

That sound right to anyone that speaks surrender monkey lingo?

ALways thought it was " Le kiss my ass"

137 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:16:15am
138 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:16:16am

re: #81 father_of_10

Another hottie alert!
I bet they'd be fun to "party" with!

139 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:16:21am

re: #91 Racer X

Terrorist attacks Mount Wilson observatory - live shot!

Nice to see they found a solution to the high cost of heating in CA.

140 Cognito  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:16:26am

Ah. Reading further I see Charles beat me to the first-run analysis.

141 nyc redneck  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:16:29am

there seem to be so many groups of losers the world over who have been infected w/ the 'hey let's riot and see what happens' syndrome.
taking cues from moslems who are creating havoc.
why wouldn't these commie, socialist, anarchist, anti-social types try it.
they are watching the jihadis and seeing their gains.

142 Adrenalyn  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:16:37am

re: #121 Lizard by the Bay

Funny you should metion that. The Bay Area is getting dumped on by snow at elevation above only 800 feet! And it's sticking! They've been plowing 17 all day just to keep it open.

Damn all this global warming...

heh !
the wife snagged a bunch of free Northstar passes at a mall down the road (84$ a person this year - OUCH)

if you show up at the right place - they give you two free tickets
and if it is slow and the girl is bored, she gives you a fistfull

143 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:16:40am

re: #130 Outrider

I was curious so I googled it, "baiser mon cul"

That sound right to anyone that speaks surrender monkey lingo?

Isn't that "to kiss my ass"?

144 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:16:54am
145 Ben Hur  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:17:03am

"Your big capitalist stores."

It's envy.

Needs Enzyte.

146 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:17:24am

re: #133 Cognito

Hmm. The Afghan Revolutionary Front. The phrase "your big capitalist stores" strikes me as reminiscent of privileged home-grown ennui, more than the typical jihadi language. First impression, at least.

A.R.F.? Boy the terrorists have really gone to the dogs.

147 Ben Hur  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:17:31am

re: #140 Cognito

Ah. Reading further I see Charles beat me to the first-run analysis.

We do occasionally start without you.

148 nyc redneck  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:17:44am

there is snow, as big a goose feathers, coming down in nyc.
it is so beautiful against the dark gray bldgs.

149 father_of_10  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:17:53am

re: #132 maddogg

Is this a test?

/baiser mon cul

/yeah, I cheated

Bese mi culo.

150 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:17:56am

re: #134 apachegunner

man oh man, those SF streets like Powell Ave and Market St, in the hills must be scary when slick with snow. Do they actually plow those city streets?

I don't think snow has hit the city proper. Mostly, it's been the hills of the south bay and east bay. Especially peaks like Mt Diablo, Tamalpias, etc. The long range of hills that define the eastern border of Fremont looked like the freakin' Rockies this morning.

151 bosforus  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:18:12am

re: #108 JHW

Here's a fun pic of her.
Image: melissa-theuriau.jpg

152 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:18:15am
153 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:18:23am

re: #133 Cognito

With the economic downturn all the anti-capitalist roaches are crawling out of the baseboards of society. I expect some real ugliness this May during the usual worldwide leftgasm if things are still in bad shape economically.

154 maddogg  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:18:36am

re: #148 nyc redneck

there is snow, as big a goose feathers, coming down in nyc.
it is so beautiful against the dark gray bldgs.

It would look a lot better against the backdrop of forrests and mountains, I think.

155 Killian Bundy  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:18:41am

Watch the contested ballot phase in Al Franken's Quest to Steal a Senate Seat!

/live feed

156 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:18:55am

This is Frenchie leftism.

Dynamite is a commercial explosive. Had it been AQ it would be a plastic explosive or a home made peroxide explosive, IMO.

IIRC, most of the bombs in Corsica have been dynamite.

157 mikalm  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:19:11am

re: #134 apachegunner

man oh man, those SF streets like Powell Ave and Market St, in the hills must be scary when slick with snow. Do they actually plow those city streets?

Only once in a long time does the snow get down that low in the Bay Area. SF is right by the bay & ocean, so what little flurries we might get melt when they hit the ground. On the highlands around the Bay, however, there can be fairly good dustings of snow that will last a while, and make driving in the hills very tricky.

158 JHW  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:19:16am

re: #151 bosforus

Thanks , it didn't work though.

159 Outrider  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:19:19am

re: #136 saberry0530

ALways thought it was " Le kiss my ass"

I think that would be from the Pepe LePew school of French. ;-)>

160 Cognito  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:19:40am

re: #147 Ben Hur

We do occasionally start without you.

No need for ugliness. I was just giving Charles a thumbs-up.

161 Adrenalyn  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:20:13am

re: #157 mikalm

Only once in a long time does the snow get down that low in the Bay Area. SF is right by the bay & ocean, so what little flurries we might get melt when they hit the ground. On the highlands around the Bay, however, there can be fairly good dustings of snow that will last a while, and make driving in the hills very tricky.

I believe the last time it snowed on the Golden Gate Bridge was about 1975 or 1976

162 Lizard by the Bay  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:20:48am

re: #136 saberry0530

ALways thought it was " Le kiss my ass"

That's a dialect of French unique to french skunks.

163 bosforus  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:20:50am

re: #158 JHW

Thanks , it didn't work though.

It was a full screen sized collage of screen shots of her giving the news.

164 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:21:14am

re: #155 Killian Bundy

Watch the contested ballot phase in Al Franken's Quest to Steal a Senate Seat!

/live feed

Just remember - all Republicans are bad and all Democrats are good.

(Just in case you don't get MSNBC).

165 Outrider  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:21:37am

re: #143 MandyManners

Isn't that "to kiss my ass"?

Father-of-Ten says it's "Bese mi culo"

166 realwest  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:22:09am

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey
and
re: #127 Iron Fist We have indeed been fortunate here in the US, post 9/11. But I do think Bush deserves major props for that - we have "gotten after 'em" BIG TIME while some of our "allies" have not done so and may appear to be weak because of that.
I don't even know how many French forces there are in Afghanistan, nor how effective they've been.
But my hunch is that the MAJOR burden of the fighting has fallen to the U.S., Great Britain, Canada and Denmark over there.
I know the Germans haven't been particularly effective and indeed have let it be known that they won't do any night time patrolling - don't know about the French activities there, though.

167 mikalm  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:23:15am

re: #161 Adrenalyn

I believe the last time it snowed on the Golden Gate Bridge was about 1975 or 1976

I remember being in Berkeley a few years ago around this time of year, and watching a light snow flurry come down on Telegraph. All the holiday shoppers were running around trying to catch the flakes on their tongues!

168 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:23:50am

re: #94 jcm

Everything must go (up)!

169 AuntAcid  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:23:54am

re: #104 Honorary Yooper

Not too suprising they'd try it in a French department store since they have made the same attempts in US shopping centers. Remember the guy who wanted to use nail bombs at the Cherryvale Mall in Rockford, Illinois? It may only be a matter of time until they're successful at this.

Do first-timers use cherry bombs?
.

170 jcm  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:24:35am

re: #128 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*grin*
Check your email in a few minutes.
Am about to compose the message and attach a pair of jpgs.

Got them. Posting "Re-engineering the Corporation" outside my cube...

171 nyc redneck  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:24:51am

re: #154 maddogg

It would look a lot better against the backdrop of forrests and mountains, I think.

i agree. i love to walk in the woods when it's snowing.
it's magical to see it here too. once we had nearly 3 ft. of snow. it shut the city down. people were skiing down bdway. and wearing snow shoes to get around.

172 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:25:02am

re: #170 jcm

Got them. Posting "Re-engineering the Corporation" outside my cube...

LOVE IT!

173 JHW  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:25:24am

re: #166 realwest

Here's a link to the French Ministry of Defense realwest, there are actually a few interesting videos on that site.

174 mikalm  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:25:42am

re: #169 AuntAcid

Do first-timers use cherry bombs?
.

Cherry Bombs?

175 [deleted]  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:26:08am
176 Outrider  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:26:23am

re: #166 realwest

I know the Germans haven't been particularly effective and indeed have let it be known that they won't do any night time patrolling - don't know about the French activities there, though.


Germans have combat troops there? I thought their constitution (written with our "input" after WWII) forbade the deployment of combat troops outside their borders?

177 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:26:40am

re: #157 mikalm

Only once in a long time does the snow get down that low in the Bay Area. SF is right by the bay & ocean, so what little flurries we might get melt when they hit the ground. On the highlands around the Bay, however, there can be fairly good dustings of snow that will last a while, and make driving in the hills very tricky.

Do you guys use sand or salt, or a mixture of both on your hills? When I was going to college in Houghton, Michigan, a town with hill steepness to rival San Francisco, they primarilly used sand during the winter, and salt/sand mixtures at the beginning and ending of the snow season. The locals tended to shy away from RWD vehicles due to the steepness of the sides of the valley and the amount of snow during the season. The area usually got 200 inches of snow for a season, but can vary from about 150 inches of snow to over 300 inches of snow.

178 realwest  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:27:23am

re: #148 nyc redneck
Hey enjoy it - hope you aren't expected to get any accumulations cause we what that pretty white snow looks like after the plows and cars get through with it!

179 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:28:29am

re: #178 realwest

We're expected to get 2-6 inches here in Chicagoland today. Should make the afternoon rush ever-so-fun.

180 Outrider  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:28:32am

Maybe the owner of the department store is setting the stage for an "arson for insurance" scheme? ;-)>

181 Adrenalyn  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:28:46am

re: #177 Honorary Yooper

Do you guys use sand or salt, or a mixture of both on your hills? When I was going to college in Houghton, Michigan, a town with hill steepness to rival San Francisco, they primarilly used sand during the winter, and salt/sand mixtures at the beginning and ending of the snow season. The locals tended to shy away from RWD vehicles due to the steepness of the sides of the valley and the amount of snow during the season. The area usually got 200 inches of snow for a season, but can vary from about 150 inches of snow to over 300 inches of snow.


illegal to use salt in California
here, Caltrans (the hwy dept) uses a mixture of sand and gravel

the windshield repairers union came up with the exact ratio of sand to stone

182 Outrider  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:29:39am

re: #179 Honorary Yooper

We're expected to get 2-6 inches here in Chicagoland today. Should make the afternoon rush ever-so-fun.

70 degrees here. Perhaps I'll toss some dead beast on the grill tonight? ;-)>

183 apachegunner  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:29:55am

but think if you had to drive up one of the hills going north from the warf. re: #150 Lizard by the Bay

184 realwest  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:30:13am

re: #173 JHW
Thanks for the link - too bad I don't understand French!

185 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:30:17am

re: #50 karmic_inquisitor

So what.

Hamas was having a DIY suicide vest kit sale. The holiday season is tough this year - markdowns on everything.

/

yeah, but they're making a killing on that product line.

186 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:31:29am

re: #122 realwest

Hey Thanos, for some reason your link didn't open for me - since IIRC it's your blog, you might want to check it.


Yep, something wrong there, thanks RW I'll get a ticket in.

187 realwest  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:32:06am

re: #176 Outrider
Don't know about their constitution, but they have 'em there. And iirc, some of the milblogs have indicated that when they DO engage the enemy they are pretty effective, but the criticism has been that they don't engage the enemy often enough.

188 tfc3rid  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:32:29am

re: #179 Honorary Yooper

We're expected to get 2-6 inches here in Chicagoland today. Should make the afternoon rush ever-so-fun.

Hey Yoop... Driving from NYC to Madison, WI next Tuesday... Praying that weather holds out...

189 apachegunner  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:32:44am

don't forget the aussies re: #166 realwest

190 mikalm  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:33:18am

re: #177 Honorary Yooper

Dunno. It's so rare and minimal in the urban Bay Area that I'm not even sure if they have a contingency plan here.

The Sierras, however, are quite a different story. The California DOT might have the info you seek on winter road-safety measures in this state.

191 realwest  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:33:22am

re: #179 Honorary Yooper
So go home now - beat the rush! LOL! I know, I know, easy for me to say, sitting down here, retired,looking at a 68 degrees or warmer day here!

192 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:34:32am

Share this appears to be having problems, causing hangs where it's used. Reporting to Charles since he uses them as well.

193 realwest  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:34:51am

re: #181 Adrenalyn

illegal to use salt in California
here, Caltrans (the hwy dept) uses a mixture of sand and gravel

the windshield repairers union came up with the exact ratio of sand to stone


ROTFLMAO!

194 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:35:47am

re: #191 realwest

So go home now - beat the rush! LOL! I know, I know, easy for me to say, sitting down here, retired,looking at a 68 degrees or warmer day here!

Heh. It was 51 on Sunday evening, then 6 on Monday morning. Up into the high teens, low 20s now with the snow starting.

195 realwest  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:36:04am

re: #189 apachegunner
My mistake Guns, you're right.

196 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:36:21am

re: #192 Thanos

Share this appears to be having problems, causing hangs where it's used. Reporting to Charles since he uses them as well.

Yep, normal page load after deacting Share This.

197 apachegunner  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:37:00am

re: #191 realwest

So go home now - beat the rush! LOL! I know, I know, easy for me to say, sitting down here, retired,looking at a 68 degrees or warmer day here!


my wife is golfing now with her GFs, suns out, near 70, gawd I miss Chicago :>)

198 realwest  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:37:15am

re: #194 Honorary Yooper
So you're saying that it's typical December weather in Chicagoland, right?!

199 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:38:28am

re: #190 mikalm

They require chains or snow tires?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No self-respecting Upper Midwesterner would use either.

200 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:38:40am

re: #198 realwest

So you're saying that it's typical December weather in Chicagoland, right?!

Yes. :-)

201 Throbert McGee  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:40:54am

re: #130 Outrider

I was curious so I googled it, "baiser mon cul"

That sound right to anyone that speaks surrender monkey lingo?

I don't speak Frog, so I don't know if it's the actual phrase they'd use, but "baiser mon cul" is definitely a legitimate translation of "kiss my ass."

That famous Mona-Lisa-with-a-Mustache by Marcel Duchamp is entitled "L.H.O.O.Q." -- a dirty rebus, because when you pronounce the letters Frawnch-style, it sounds like the phrase elle a chaud au cul, which means "She's hot in the ass" (i.e., she's horny).

And then there's the well-known Italian equivalent to "fuck off," vai a fare in culo, although it's rarely pronounced so distinctly and often comes out more like va'fa'cul. But it literally means "go do it in the ass."

202 bosforus  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:44:18am

re: #155 Killian Bundy

Watch the contested ballot phase in Al Franken's Quest to Steal a Senate Seat!

/live feed

Watching this for the past 10 minutes makes me never want to be a lawyer or public representative.

203 Outrider  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:51:00am

re: #187 realwest

Don't know about their constitution, but they have 'em there. And iirc, some of the milblogs have indicated that when they DO engage the enemy they are pretty effective, but the criticism has been that they don't engage the enemy often enough.

Can't debate facts. Just wonder how they (or the UN/EC) reconciled deployment of combat troops. The clause was put in the constitution because of European concerns of German troops.

I've worked with the Bundeswehr Heer a time or two in field exercises and they were good.

204 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:53:10am

re: #196 Thanos

Yep, normal page load after deacting Share This.

Whatever was going on at Share this is now over, pages loading normal again, I"ve reactivated. Thanks again RW

205 Outrider  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 10:54:38am

re: #187 realwest

Don't know about their constitution, but they have 'em there. And iirc, some of the milblogs have indicated that when they DO engage the enemy they are pretty effective, but the criticism has been that they don't engage the enemy often enough.

Got curious so I had to look it up. According to Wiki:

The role of the Bundeswehr is described in the German Basic Law (Art. 87a) as defensive only. Its only active role before 1990 was the Katastropheneinsatz (disaster control operation), where the Bundeswehr helped after natural disasters. After 1990, the international situation changed from East-West confrontation to one of general uncertainty and instability. Today, after a ruling of the Federal Constitutional Court in 1994 the term "defense" has been defined to not only include protection of the borders of Germany, but also crisis reaction and conflict prevention, or more broadly as guarding the security of Germany anywhere in the world. According to the definition given by former Defence Minister Struck, it may be necessary to defend Germany even at the Hindu Kush. This requires the Bundeswehr to take part in operations outside of the borders of Germany, as part of NATO or the European Union and mandated by the UN.


They deployed eight times around the world in addition of Afghanistan. Interesting.

206 Throbert McGee  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 11:00:07am

re: #201 Throbert McGee

"baiser mon cul" is definitely a legitimate translation of "kiss my ass."

Just following up on this: baiser is actually the infinitive form, and thus means "to kiss" rather than being a command.

The correct imperative would be baise mon cul, and that phrasing has evidently been used in French for a long, long time -- because I find from Googling that in Shakespeare's Henry VI, Part 2, a character punningly says that the dauphin of France is named "Monsieur Basimecu."

In other words, Bart Simpson's "Amanda Huginkiss" prank calls have a literary heritage going back to Shakespeare, at least.

207 yochanan  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 11:03:44am

re: #20 CIA Reject

Expect this kind of nonsense to become commonplace in the US after January 20.

they are not waiting note GOV'R PALIN'S CHURCH AND THE BANK BOMBING WERE 2 COPS WERE MURDERED

208 ayatollah ghilmeini  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 11:09:02am

Just checked with a friend of mine, turns out the bomb was placed there six months ago and was only found now- apparently the bombers hid it in the soap and deodorant display...

209 debutaunt  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 11:12:33am

re: #208 ayatollah ghilmeini

Just checked with a friend of mine, turns out the bomb was placed there six months ago and was only found now- apparently the bombers hid it in the soap and deodorant display...

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

210 Ron Shaw  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 12:31:56pm

re: #21 Wyatt Earp

Couldn't they have just left a Jerry Lewis DVD?


Good suggestion question!

But, come to think of it, that paltry-entertainment bomb would do some real damage.

211 J.S.  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 12:55:21pm

re: #201 Throbert McGee

Actually...(as I laugh..) ya gotta watch that word "baiser"...it doesn't necessarily mean "kiss"... "baiser" can be used as a noun..."un baiser" translates, "a kiss". However, if you're using it as a verb then it can become a vulgarity (a vulgarity with 3 stars)...(meaning something like "f--k")...sooo, instead, one should use (the verb form of kiss) the word "embrasser", meaning "to kiss."

212 Shug  Tue, Dec 16, 2008 1:03:54pm

Dyno---MITE

/ JJ

213 nyc redneck  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 6:29:14pm
214 nyc redneck  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 6:30:05pm

yay. it worked.


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