This kind of cowardly arson is disgusting.

I hope they catch whoever did it and punish them accordingly.

But, I thought all the hate in this country was from the right? Sure seems like the left is the hate filled side...

What color hoods do they wear?

Arson + Hate Crime.

Hope the perp spends a long time in jail.

If Sarah Palin is "no longer a threat to America now that she's back in Alaska," as liberals so quaintly put it, why do they still do stuff like this?

/rhetorical

It was a false flag operation. Google it!
/

re: #5 gclaghorn

If Sarah Palin is "no longer a threat to America now that she's back in Alaska," as liberals so quaintly put it, why do they still do stuff like this?

/rhetorical

Well we still don't know who set the fire and why?

Moonbats blame Sarah, claim she planted it herself in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2...

Let's not jump to conclusions that a "liberal" did this. There's no suspect yet.

Plus attempted murder. People were inside.

I know this has been brought up, but really, think about what would happen if it was Obama's church.

A church has to be in the southeastern US for it to be a hate crime. Nothing to see here.

re: #8 lifeofthemind

Moonbats blame Sarah ANY CONSERVATIVR GROUP, INDIVIDUAL, RIVAL EVANGELICAL, POTENTIAL GOP RIVAL TO PALIN FOR 2012 NOMINATION, claim she THEY planted it herself in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2...

might as well cover all the moonbat bases!

re: #9 Charles

Let's not jump to conclusions that a "liberal" did this. There's no suspect yet.

You're right. Sorry. But I don't think it was a coincidence that this kind of thing was done to her church.

Don't assume anything. Let the cops do their thing. Let's hope they find them and hurt them.

re: #6 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #8 lifeofthemind

Yes, the way the embers glowed proves it was an inside job!

/

re: #15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't assume anything. Let the cops do their thing. Let's hope they find them and hurt them.

Oops. That wasn't very forgiving of me.

Anarchists?

Greenpeace?

I don't understand how somebody could get away with this and not be spotted pouring gas (or whatever flammable liquid it was) all over the church when people were inside. At any rate I hope they catch the sick f#$% who did this. Any suspicions it was all about you Sarah? She actually handled that question quite well, and apologized to the pastor once again if it were somehow connected to her (like there is any doubt).

She did it to cover up the fact the Trig is her grandson!

/

re: #15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't assume anything. Let the cops do their thing. Let's hope they find them and hurt them.

re: #17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oops. That wasn't very forgiving of me.

Is burning at the stake still legal in Alaska ?/

re: #9 Charles

Let's not jump to conclusions that a "liberal" did this. There's no suspect yet.

heh! At least they didn't jump to the usual MDS.

Assuming this was done as a political statement, when the bastard(s) are caught you can bet they are lefties.
Spits

re: #20 Ben Hur

lol!

re: #20 Ben Hur

She did it to cover up the fact the Trig is her grandson!

/

Her nirth certifikit was in the church's vault. How convenient.

re: #22 WrathofG-d

heh! At least they didn't jump to the usual MDS LDS.

those wascally Mormons

Can't imagine something like this happening at my church. I sure hope that there is an express lane in heck.

re: #23 MAV

Assuming this was done as a political statement, when the bastard(s) are caught you can bet they are lefties.
Spits

Nah, this was definitely the work of a conservative Republican that disagreed with her political views.
/

There is a creepy obsession on the Left about this woman.
She is their "great Satan". The effigy on the noose, the c^^t t shirts worn by kids . I don't think there has been anybody better representing what the Left stands against than Palin. Palin brings out the worse in them. It is almost like as if she is the one through whom we see the lunacy of the Left. Chasing a woman with pitch forks and torches like a witch hunt by moonbats.
Even rebuplicans are afraid of her. Was McCain right that she really was a maverick?

I think so.

re: #8 lifeofthemind
Already been done numerous times on DU and Kos

That's what I would like to see, the same attention paid to this that would have been paid to arson at the Rev'rund Wright's church, had it been torched.

Sorry I can't run video. Whoever did this crime deserves to have the (law) book thrown at them, or tons of shoes.

I don't know about you but miss Governor Palin's straight talking, no obfuscating, non-weaselly Wassilla values.

I am already sick of Chicago values--4 years worth of crookery--before we've even begun the next presidential term.

re: #31 father_of_10

That's what I would like to see, the same attention paid to this that would have been paid to arson at the Rev'rund Wright's church, had it been torched.

Very well put.

Governors show some trust, don't do this to get rich ... I don't doubt here sincerity one bit.

re: #31 father_of_10

That's what I would like to see, the same attention paid to this that would have been paid to arson at the Rev'rund Wright's church, had it been torched.

It says something that his church HASN'T been torched yet, and her's has...

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can't imagine something like this happening at my church. I sure hope that there is an express lane in heck.

It almost happened at my church. Our mens club was holding it's annual BBQ.

FREE BEER FOR THE VOLUNTEER COOKS,,, LARGE OPEN PITS WITH CHARCOAL,,, LIGHTER FLUID ,,, YOU do the math!

Palin starts talking about how Churches she visited have been harassed.

re: #28 bosforus

Nah, this was definitely the work of a conservative Republican that disagreed with her political views.
/

It was those bastard Methodists!
/

Charles is correct...we do not know who did it yet. But, I would make an educated guess and say someone that did not agree with her politics rather than her religious beliefs did this.

re: #39 Desert Dog

It was those bastard Methodists!
/

Charles is correct...we do not know who did it yet. But, I would make an educated guess and say someone that did not agree with her politics rather than her religious beliefs did this.

Or perhaps some kids.

For the first time in history, fire has burned wood!
/

re: #37 sattv4u2

It almost happened at my church. Our mens club was holding it's annual BBQ.

FREE BEER FOR THE VOLUNTEER COOKS,,, LARGE OPEN PITS WITH CHARCOAL,,, LIGHTER FLUID ,,, YOU do the math!

You need a church which practices abstinence...from alcohol, I mean.../

There are no coinkidinks.

re: #30 El Supremo

Already been done numerous times on DU and Kos

I decline to put on a MOPP suit and find out

Palin dared to mock Obama. So She must pay. I'll bet my bunny boots that this is a politically motivated hate crime.

re: #39 Desert Dog

It was those bastard Methodists!
/

Friggin' Methodists!

re: #42 Timbre

You need a church which practices abstinence...from alcohol, I mean.../

so you want us to get rid of the wine and drink actual blood during Communion!?!?!?!

re: #39 Desert Dog

It was those bastard Methodists!
/

Charles is correct...we do not know who did it yet. But, I would make an educated guess and say someone that did not agree with her politics rather than her religious beliefs did this.

It could have been a disgruntle current or ex member who had a beef with the church?

Turns out, it was a mass murder attempt. They poured fuel at the exits to trap kids inside.

Going to our office Christmas party (seriously).

BBL

re: #29 armaros

I was with you right up until that last sentence. No she's not a maverick, she is genuine, and I don't think that scares republicans one bit. You don't post much do you?

Moose's Revenge.

re: #49 faraway

Link doesn't work

Five minute break in Franken's attempted vote stealing.

Working feed

Better feed (when it's working)

/so far, not all that much controversy, some voters are profoundly/weirdly stupid, but the canvassing board, with obvious partisans, has been remarkably consistent, there's been probably less than ten rulings I'd disagree with, voter intent is falling where it may fall

re: #46 bosforus

Friggin' Methodists!

Probably spillover from that ugly spat between the Greater Wheel and the Lesser Wheel Buddhists

re: #47 sattv4u2

No, no! Talking about the post-liturgical drinking!

re: #49 faraway

Turns out, it was a mass murder attempt. They poured fuel at the exits to trap kids inside.

Holy shit, joke mode off

re: #44 lifeofthemind

I decline to put on a MOPP suit and find out

I don't blame you. I thought the results of this election would make them happy. Nothing makes them happy..Must be hard going through life that way.

re: #53 MAV

Link doesn't work

worked for me. You're lucky you didn;'t see the vile posts from HUFFPO

re: #49 faraway

Turns out, it was a mass murder attempt. They poured fuel at the exits to trap kids inside.

The HuffPo commentors quoted there are sick, extremely sick.

re: #17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oops. That wasn't very forgiving of me.

Forgivness is something that must be earned.
An unrepentant can still have their ass kicked till they ah... ask!
Then , if your not too tired ,forgive them!
Works for me !;-)

re: #53 MAV

It worked for me, sadly. Wow those on Huffpo need to take a breather, don't they?

Dear Charles,

Thank you for reporting on this crime.

Can't find much reporting (or indignation) on the skullduggery and invasion of privacy perpetrated against Joe the Plumber, or Governor Sarah Palin.

Media seemed to back even the rogue Alaskan cop who threatened Gov. Palin and her family--like they fawn over the Iraqi shoe-tosser.

re: #60 Honorary Yooper

The HuffPo commentors quoted there are sick, extremely sick.

And they're even sicker at HuffPo itself. I'm suprised Ariana has the comments turned on.

re: #55 lifeofthemind

Probably spillover from that ugly spat between the Greater Wheel and the Lesser Wheel Buddhists

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about! But it sounds very entertaining.

re: #56 Timbre

No, no! Talking about the post-liturgical drinking!

If I didn;'t want post-liturgical drinking, I'd join the Baptists. At least being Roman Catholic with all the guilt attached to it, we can DRINK!

Media speculation is that it might have been triggered by the churches attitude toward gays, but who knows this early. It could be anything from drunks or teenagers to someone that had a grudge against the church, but maybe not Palin. Whatever the motivation, it's a despicable act and I hope the jerk is caught and punished.

re: #64 Honorary Yooper

And they're even sicker at HuffPo itself. I'm suprised Ariana has the comments turned on.

Too busy huffing

re: #37 sattv4u2

Free beer?
Your a Lutheran?

re: #64 Honorary Yooper

And they're even sicker at HuffPo itself. I'm suprised Ariana has the comments turned on.

Good lord! Can we put those commenters on some kind of permanent watch-list?

re: #63 alegrias

Can't find much reporting (or indignation) on the skullduggery and invasion of privacy perpetrated against Joe the Plumber, or Governor Sarah Palin.

Why would the most expensive torching of a church of a former vice-presidential candidate with children inside make the news?
/

re: #41 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

LOL!

I sit here and cannot believe human beings are so vile as to think children deserve to burn to death because they went to Church. Just wow.

re: #49 faraway

Turns out, it was a mass murder attempt. They poured fuel at the exits to trap kids inside.

Deranged people over there at Huffpo that's for sure:
"Palin will apparently do anything to stay in the news."

re: #66 sattv4u2

..and beer-batter fish on Lent Fridays!

re: #51 turn

I was with you right up until that last sentence. No she's not a maverick, she is genuine, and I don't think that scares republicans one bit. You don't post much do you?

* * *
Governor Palin as a matter of fact went against her own party when she took on and toppled crooked Republican office holders in her state.

That takes guts you don't see on the Dem side much.

HuffPoster

Dystopic , God is punishing them for unbridled hatred. Burn them all down.

re: #11 Ben Hur

I know this has been brought up, but really, think about what would happen if it was Obama's church.

That's in line with the best comment at Hot Air:

If this had been Pastor Wright’s church, it would have been national headlines for a month.

MarkTheGreat

re: #73 ArmyWife

I sit here and cannot believe human beings are so vile as to think children deserve to burn to death because they went to Church. Just wow.

And worst of all...they vote

re: #20 Ben Hur

She did it to cover up the fact the Trig is her grandson!

/

Right!

And I'm my own Grandpa!

re: #75 Timbre

..and beer-batter fish on Lent Fridays!

hehehe mour Mens Club does the "Fish Fry" every Wednesdat AND Fridays during lent

All you can eat ,,, $4.00 a head (kids under 12 free)

We make up the shortfall by having a cash bar!

re: #62 ArmyWife

It worked for me, sadly. Wow those on Huffpo need to take a breather, don't they?

Well you can only hang around a manure pile for so long before you need fresh air...

sarah is such a forthright, honest, classy person.
and she has great inner strength.
burning her church won't make her go away.

re: #81 father_of_10

Right!

And I'm my own Grandpa!

We sang that around the fire with the Back Counrty Horsemens
Association!
LOL

re: #76 alegrias

* * *
Governor Palin as a matter of fact went against her own party when she took on and toppled crooked Republican office holders in her state.

That takes guts you don't see on the Dem side much.

That is true and in that sense I stand corrected. I don't think she is a dissenter to the valuse/morals of normal folk is what I had in mind. I probably over reacted there, sorry.

Another Huffer;

You're right, those parishoners shouldn't have set fire to their own chiurch to gain national attention.

it was wrong.

You're right.

Reverend Martin Luther King would grieve at the burning of a church with children inside, and people of good will would unite behind the victims and help rebuild what was destroyed.

So, can anyone account for Bill Ayers whereabouts on the day in question?

re: #70 gclaghorn

Good lord! Can we put those commenters on some kind of permanent watch-list?

The terrible thing is, some of the worst comments are only over at HuffPo, and I shall not reprint them here.

This needs screenshots.

re: #78 faraway

HuffPoster

Don't overlook THIS gem
GeorgeP922 Folks, this church was an extremist church. This church supported speaking in tounges, faith healing, and even folks practing witchcraft.

I guess to a liberal elitist, an 'Alaskan' accent (much like a southern drawl) is "speaking in tongues"

re: #89 maddogg

So, can anyone account for Bill Ayers whereabouts on the day in question?

"he thought noone was in it"?

re: #89 maddogg

So, can anyone account for Bill Ayers whereabouts on the day in question?

A punk like that would be physically unable to make it to Alaska and back with out massive aid.

re: #91 sattv4u2

Don't overlook THIS gem
GeorgeP922 Folks, this church was an extremist church. This church supported speaking in tounges, faith healing, and even folks practing witchcraft.

I guess to a liberal elitist, an 'Alaskan' accent (much like a southern drawl) is "speaking in tongues"

Saying anything that makes sense is "speaking in tongues" to them.

re: #93 nevergiveup

A punk like that would be physically unable to make it to Alaska and back with out massive aid.

MO sounds familiar, though.

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not a good thing --but how can anyone say this has nothing to do with Palin . A lot of people didn't like her and lets face it we have a lot of not cases in this country..all the divisive hate she was spewing came home to roost

Is Rev. Wright's nic bluguy8?

re: #74 turn

Deranged people over there at Huffpo that's for sure:
"Palin will apparently do anything to stay in the news."

The church fire was a Republican false-flag op, just like 9/11!
/

Unlike the Pres-Elect's old church, I bet this Wasilla church never got millions in federal dollars for its children's daycare operations from Governor Palin.

re: #96 ArmyWife

The only thing that made any sense to me in that rant was "we have a lot of not cases in this country"

re: #98 alegrias

Unlike the Pres-Elect's old church, I bet this Wasilla church never got millions in federal dollars for its children's daycare operations from Governor Palin.

Yeah, but I bet they got good parenting.

Hey it's cold in Alaska, that sort of thing probably happens all the time, just the natives trying to survive, anyway it should help advance civil society there until someday they'll have a Democratic governor.
/NYTimes reporter-in-training

re: #98 alegrias

Unlike the Pres-Elect's old church, I bet this Wasilla church never got millions in federal dollars for its children's daycare operations from Governor Palin.

"old church." Bawahahahahahahahahaha!

He'll be attending there on January 20th.

re: #102 Wyatt Earp

Seems like he actually never goes anywhere for Church. I think he used Trinity to get ahead in Chicago.

re: #97 Zimriel

Yeah, see #6. BDVM knows how to think like a moonbat, real fast at it too. ha!

re: #100 nevergiveup

Yeah, but I bet they got good parenting.

* * *
You're right. That's better than taxpayer dollars.

OT:

Former Clinton cat 'Socks' dying

[Link: www.upi.com...]

re: #103 WrathofG-d

Seems like he actually never goes anywhere for Church. I think he used Trinity to get ahead in Chicago.

Kinda like how Bill used to the WH to get head?

re: #49 faraway

Turns out, it was a mass murder attempt. They poured fuel at the exits to trap kids inside.

This is just awful! Right before Christmas too. But I'm sure the time of the year was just icing for these hatefilled, bigoted people!

re: #103 WrathofG-d

Seems like he actually never goes anywhere for Church. I think he used Trinity to get ahead in Chicago.

Good point. Whoring in church. Gotta go to Hell for that.

re: #89 maddogg

Unfortunately Greta is probably her ONLY friend in the media. No one is going to give this any play except her - all the rest probably think that she belonged to some whacko church and so what. But had this been Reverend Wright's "Chickens Coming Home to Roost" church , the outcry would have been deafening.

And there were women in the church at the time the fire was set scrap booking? Sounds like an attempted murder charge to me.

re: #65 bosforus

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about! But it sounds very entertaining.

I'll leave it to you to wander through the wiki. Basically the Greater School Northern Buddhists (China, Tibet, Japan, Korea) split off from the older schools that survived in South East Asia as Buddhist influence declined in India. The Northern schools called the Southern schools the Lesser but it is much more complicated than that. Something like Bolsheviks versus Mensheviks.

re: #97 Zimriel

The church fire was a Republican false-flag op, just like 9/11!
/

Yup. That's what I thought right off. In fact, I'll bet it was started by her soon to be son-in-law. You see, he's a Methodist and just couldn't stomach being married in a Baptist Church, and so he hired a couple of guys from the local Marine Reserve Depot and they dressed up as hippies, after using copious amounts of Rogaine, and paid some junkies to buy some gasoline for them, and then early the very next morning, when it was still night (this is Alaska, ya know) the dressed up as Indians and threw the tea over board . . . I mean they poured the gas all around the church and flipped their bics . . . but since they were Marines, they used Zippos.

/there ya have it.

one thing i noticed in one of the articles on this, they were talking about how the ATF, which is now the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives were investigating...

Um, when exactly did we decide to expand their jurisdiction to explosives?

Really, from what i have seen, i am not impressed with their behavior, and, bluntly, i don't understand why the FBI can't do all of it.

Immanuel is caught on 21 different audio tapes discussing the Senaye seat?
Lets hear the tapes.

re: #111 summergurl

Unfortunately Greta is probably her ONLY friend in the media. No one is going to give this any play except her - all the rest probably think that she belonged to some whacko church and so what. But had this been Reverend Wright's "Chickens Coming Home to Roost" church , the outcry would have been deafening.

And there were women in the church at the time the fire was set scrap booking? Sounds like an attempted murder charge to me.

In PA, it would be attempted murder, aggravated assault, simple assault, risking a catastrophe, reckless endangerment, etc, etc.

re: #110 ArmyWife

Damn right! I absolutely agree!

re: #77 buzzsawmonkey

Again, I'm in the middle on the gay/church issue. I would hope the gay community would respect the church views on their life style and not disrupt a service for example and I'd hope the church would respect private adult behavior in their own bedroom. That's why I support civil unions, but not gay marriage. A civil contract with all the benefits is one thing, but the word "marriage" is pretty much a special deal to those of faith and I get that.
I don't see how giving committed gay couples the right to visit their partner in the hospital is a threat to anyone for example.

re: #115 pat

Immanuel is caught on 21 different audio tapes discussing the Senaye seat?
Lets hear the tapes.

* * *
That's Rahm Emanuel, not the Lord!

re: #112 lifeofthemind

I'll leave it to you to wander through the wiki...

I figured I could afford one Google search before I replied but it came up empty. Another day, perhaps.

re: #119 alegrias

* * *
That's Rahm Emanuel, not the Lord!

Yes silly, Barack is the Lord!

re: #110 ArmyWife

Uh hmmm again:

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To all the above... no one was hurt so all's good. At least Bill Ayers was careful to make sure no one was inside his bomb sites and even he decries his past tactics. There were people inside. Anyone who saw five little girls carried out a a church in thier little white dresses shudders at the memory. History is a bitch.

Bush needs to go on trial for war crimes. There is a govenor in Alaska and i call her, "She whose name must not be mentioned". She gains power every time you write her name.

re: #119 alegrias

oh

Obviously, it was a vigilante group of moose.

Is Obama's dearly depared grandmother ever going to be laid to rest?
WTF kind of thing is this?

Such a joy to hear her voice and her common sense again. I love what she had to say about Blago...sounds like she was as flabbergasted as we were.

Loved the cheery optimism, as always.

re: #109 Wyatt Earp

Good point. Whoring in church. Gotta go to Hell for that.

It is probably a direct violation of Commandment #3.

“Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain”

re: #117 maddogg

I have such a way with words. Please, buy my new book titled:

re: #125 Spare O'Lake

departed

re: #122 ArmyWife

Now theres a lucid mind for you.

re: #123 pat

oh

* * *
No problem--I've run into him and think Emanuel's a schmuck.

re: #120 bosforus

I figured I could afford one Google search before I replied but it came up empty. Another day, perhaps.

Just go to wikipedia, it is ok for this. Buddhism, schools of buddhism, etc.

re: #127 WrathofG-d

It is probably a direct violation of Commandment #3.

“Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain”

You also go the the hot place is you take JACK LORD'S name in vain. What? He had great hair!

re: #130 maddogg

I was thinking we name that one Senator of New York. What do you think?

it is so nice to see her there w/ her handsome husband and sweet children,
they are such a lovely family.
sarah has it all. beauty and brains.
she is a great roll model for young girls.
eat your heart out gloria steinham or take a look and learn something abt. being a real feminist.

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LOL Careful, you wouldn't want to tangle with PHIL Ruler of Heck! Prince of Insufficient Light!
[Link: www.triviaasylum.com...]

Going to put dumplings in the venison stew, brb

re: #131 alegrias

* * *
No problem--I've run into him and think Emanuel's a schmuck.

No he;s a putz a schmuck gets stuck with the tab, Rahm dances away.

- Greta is only watchable and remotely interesting since she started fawning over Sarah and Todd. I was beginning to think she couldn't interview anyone who didn't have a child who had been kidnapped or murdered. Greta and Sarah bonded because they possess an annoying accent.

- I'd love to see Todd open a can of whoop ass on the arsonist almost as much as I'd love to see him meet John McCain in a dark alley in some Democrat machine-controlled city in the Lower 48.

- Have the leftazoid rumors started yet that Trigg actually started the fire to seek revenge against his mother/grandmother for spending too much time on the campaign trail?

- John McCain suffers from the "short man complex" of epic proportions.

re: #126 EmmmieG

Such a joy to hear her voice and her common sense again. I love what she had to say about Blago...sounds like she was as flabbergasted as we were.

Loved the cheery optimism, as always.

* * *
Thank you. Yes, I miss Governor Palin's cheery determination to see this country through thick and thin, cheering her son's commitment to serve in Iraq, cheering on our country's own energy industry.

Palin is positive and can-do, not negative, confiscatory, jealous, utopian.

re: #91 sattv4u2

Don't overlook THIS gem
GeorgeP922 Folks, this church was an extremist church. This church supported speaking in tounges, faith healing, and even folks practing witchcraft.

I guess to a liberal elitist, an 'Alaskan' accent (much like a southern drawl) is "speaking in tongues"

These were from Breitbart:

Your God Is Dead December 15th, 2008 - 1:37 pm

Man…Nothing like hearing another church has burned…one down a million more to go…. Its just too bad Palin wasn’t inside of it…

the only good church is a smoldering church

Your God Is Dead December 15th, 2008 - 1:47 pm

Hey daniel what do you expect…When your raised by INTOLERANT bible beaters, and raised in the INTOLERANT South…your gonna get a Liberal who is INTOLERANT of White Christians….and I’m a white male for the record. I will never be tolerant of Christians or their teachings…..EVER…Your savior is **nt licking swami **ck…..your to busy pouring money into mega churches to realize it

Your God Is Dead December 15th, 2008 - 2:03 pm

and daniel if you ever wanted to be included into a liberal society, all you have to do is act like it. Stop being a racists homophobe, who only wants to see white people advance…white people have had plenty of years to advance….if you haven’t its too bad…I finger **cked the Virgin Mary…she’s a squirter

YOUR GOD IS DEAD December 15th, 2008 - 2:15 pm

The story isn’t getting out because no one cares that a church burned…a burned church is a beautiful thing!

LOADS of tolerance there!

re: #124 solomonpanting

Obviously, it was a vigilante group of moose.

With opposable hooves and an ability to start fires.

re: #135 nyc redneck

she is a great roll model for young girls.

Tell me you didn't do that on purpose.
ROTFLMAO

re: #140 alegrias

Palin is positive and can-do, not negative, confiscatory, jealous, utopian.

Paging Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton!

re: #142 debutaunt

With opposable hooves and an ability to start fires.

A rare breed to be sure

Wow the DOW closed up 359. Good evening all, time to go walk the black lab along the American (and it looks like a break in the rain too!)

re: #141 vapig

Observe, children: the Party of Tolerance in action.

re: #141 vapig

LOADS of tolerance there!

Animals.

re: #141 vapig

Hey at least he didn't call G-d a gay unicorn, or the bible 19th century nonsense.

re: #77 buzzsawmonkey

With the exception of Fred Phelps, who is regarded as a hate-filled cultist nut job, "the attitude" of pretty much any conservative religious institution "towards gays" is not the problem. The problem is the attitude of gays towards the religious institutions.

Thank you.

re: #138 lifeofthemind

No he;s a putz a schmuck gets stuck with the tab, Rahm dances away.

* * *
You're right--and my beef was he danced away in his ballet tights, taking other people's rehearsal space in the dance studio. As a Clintonista! Already a putz, who managed to dance through the Clinton years, only to get caught up in this.

re: #134 ArmyWife

I was thinking we name that one Senator of New York. What do you think?

I don't follow you. Sorry.

re: #132 lifeofthemind

Just go to wikipedia, it is ok for this. Buddhism, schools of buddhism, etc.

When I said "afford" what I meant was I'm at work and can only afford the time to post at lgf, not read wikipedia. :)

re: #137 ArmyWife

Going to put dumplings in the venison stew, brb

Did you bring enough to share with the rest of the Lizard Army? ;)

re: #9 Charles

Let's not jump to conclusions that a "liberal" did this. There's no suspect yet.

I read that and had a 'yeah .. but' ... moment in my head.

You are right however, we don't know for certain

re: #114 A.W.

one thing i noticed in one of the articles on this, they were talking about how the ATF, which is now the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives were investigating...

Um, when exactly did we decide to expand their jurisdiction to explosives?

Really, from what i have seen, i am not impressed with their behavior, and, bluntly, i don't understand why the FBI can't do all of it.

I'm not sure, but the head of the FTA&E has made a couple of false starts to try and ban ammo because it's an explosive. The NRA has fiercely fought them over this and have so far won.

They decided to look at Minnesota challenged ballots and a ten minute episode of Keystone Kops broke out.

/no way this is over by Friday, not counting the lawsuits

re: #143 Spare O'Lake

she is a great roll model for young girls.

Tell me you didn't do that on purpose.
ROTFLMAO

LOL,LOL,LOL, no i didn't do it on purpose.
i apologize profusely. roll model. lol
well, gloria would like it.

re: #15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't assume anything. Let the cops do their thing. Let's hope they find them and hurt them.

Don't try and distract us! We know it was really done in an effort to destroy evidence of the Truth About Trig(tm)!

I'm sure Andrew Sullivan is already on this.

re: #158 nyc redneck

LOL,LOL,LOL, no i didn't do it on purpose.
i apologize profusely. roll model. lol
well, gloria would like it.

Rosie O'Donnell is so fat, she can be a "roll" model for young girls.

re: #145 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A rare breed to be sure

Ahh, but they make for a great dessert.

re: #149 WrathofG-d

Hey at least he didn't call G-d a gay unicorn, or the bible 19th century nonsense.

Duuude! You forgot your sarc tag!

Anyway, it was pretty close. I edited most of the vile crap. Truly disgusting!

re: #160 Wyatt Earp

You figure liberals would dump Rosie and take Sarah on looks alone but guess not!

re: #160 Wyatt Earp

Rosie O'Donnell is so fat, she can be a "roll" model for young girls.

Didn't they have to roll her off the stage when she sang at the Rockefeller Christmas Tree Lighting?

i hate losers who burn churches.

re: #160 Wyatt Earp

Rosie O'Donnell is so fat, she can be a "roll" model for young girls.

Rosie O'Donnell is so fat, she has 3 zip codes to be "roll" models in.

re: #162 vapig

Duuude! You forgot your sarc tag!

Anyway, it was pretty close. I edited most of the vile crap. Truly disgusting!

You'd be surprised where you hear things like my quote.

re: #163 foxsecret

You figure liberals would dump Rosie and take Sarah on looks alone but guess not!

I still have that image of Sarah in the dress with the awesome thigh-high boots. Knocked me right back into puberty!

The church congregation are in high spirits despite this happening.

re: #168 Wyatt Earp

I still have that image of Sarah in the dress with the awesome thigh-high boots. Knocked me right back into puberty!

link?

PHOENIX (Reuters) - The Mexican government has opened a special call center in Arizona to provide a sympathetic ear for citizens caught up in crackdown on illegal immigration in the desert state.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

And we allow an entity that is trying to willfully subvert the laws of this nation to set up shop?

re: #160 Wyatt Earp

Rosie O'Donnell is so fat, she jumped in the air and got stuck!

re: #170 father_of_10

link?

Oh, yes, Wyatt, do share a link!

re: #170 father_of_10

link?

Ace of Spades had it during the election, and I haven't been able to find it since. I'll look for it.

Didn't mean to be a tease.

re: #168 Wyatt Earp

Unlike Hillary who wear pant suites to hide it, Sarah can where high heels in a skirt...GRRR!

On the speaking in tongues thing - everyone forgets that there are Native Alaskan Indians and Inuits in Alaska, they go to these churches as well and guess what? I've seen them speaking in their native tongue sometimes when testifying.

re: #175 foxsecret

Unlike Hillary who wear pant suites to hide it, Sarah can where high heels in a skirt...GRRR!

I'm quite comfortable with Hillary wearing pantsuits and not short skirts.

re: #169 foxsecret

The church congregation are in high spirits despite this happening.

Your comment made me think of the climatic scene in How the Grinch Stole Christmas.

I don't mean this as a joke, either.

re: #172 DEZes

Rosie is so fat on a scale of 1 to 10 she is a 747.

Bush did it, obviously

/sarc

re: #141 vapig
Replace church with synagogue and Christian with Jew...
Kristallnacht
/never again? not even a first time!

re: #177 gclaghorn

Uh, Ditto on that!

re: #179 foxsecret

Rosie is so fat on a scale of 1 to 10 she is a 747.

NO No No No. You can get a 747 off the ground, try that with Rosie!

"They didn't do enough"

- Bill Ayers

re: #178 goddessoftheclassroom

I thought of that to. (My kids just got done watching it LOL) That's how her church responded not the way Jeremiah Wright did.

re: #179 foxsecret

That is fat. ;}

Whoa!
Maybe ya'll have seen this, but I'm just now seeing it:
1981 MURDER OF SON OF ‘AMERICA’S MOST WANTED’ HOST SOLVED

I hope they catch the bastards who did this, How sick do you have to be to set fire to a place of worship, especially with people and children inside.

re: #184 nevergiveup

replace "yo mama so fat" with "rosie so fat"...

she stepped on a dollar and made change.

etc.

re: #177 gclaghorn

I'm quite comfortable with Hillary wearing pantsuits and not short skirts.

The cankles! The goggles do nothing!

re: #160 Wyatt Earp

Rosie O'Donnell is so fat, she can be a "roll" "troll" model for young girls.

/fixed that for ya...

re: #191 Wyatt Earp

The cankles! The goggles do nothing!

Avert your eyes, children!

re: #182 IslandLibertarian

Replace church with synagogue and Christian with Jew...
Kristallnacht
/never again? not even a first time!

You're joking right? You are comparing one as-of-now isolated incident, possibly done by one random vandal to KRISTALNACHT?

re: #184 nevergiveup

Oh My!

This is no different than what happened in 16th Street Baptist Church, minus the 4 little girls being actually murdered.

re: #171 nevergiveup

PHOENIX (Reuters) - The Mexican government has opened a special call center in Arizona to provide a sympathetic ear for citizens caught up in crackdown on illegal immigration in the desert state.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

And we allow an entity that is trying to willfully subvert the laws of this nation to set up shop?

They have the ACLU on their side as well

I cannot understand why the ACLU would want bail for illegal aliens? Once you release them, they do not come back, unless of course, they get pinched for another crime.

Illegals killing cops, illegals killing people while drunk and on drugs, the illegal on illegal crime is off the charts...they should not be here in the first place, and the fact that they are cut loose (or used to be) once they make bail, so they can continue breaking the law makes me ill.

re: #191 Wyatt Earp

The cankles! The goggles do nothing!

And Rosie should be wearing fashions designed by Barnum and Bailey.

re: #188 reine.de.tout

Whoa!
Maybe ya'll have seen this, but I'm just now seeing it:
1981 MURDER OF SON OF ‘AMERICA’S MOST WANTED’ HOST SOLVED

Simply awesome! Seeing closure for Mr. Walsh is beautiful.

re: #179 foxsecret

Rosie is so fat on a scale of 1 to 10 she is a 747.

Rosie is so fat, her girls-partner is a "Hugger and a Chalker!"

Glenn Beck put it very quaintly when he called Rosie a "fat witch" with "blubber pouring out of her eyes."

"You know how many oil lamps we could keep burning just on Rosie O'Donnell fat?"

Every Christian knows that Christian persecution is never far away.

re: #197 Desert Dog

They have the ACLU on their side as well

I cannot understand why the ACLU would want bail for illegal aliens? Once you release them, they do not come back, unless of course, they get pinched for another crime.

Illegals killing cops, illegals killing people while drunk and on drugs, the illegal on illegal crime is off the charts...they should not be here in the first place, and the fact that they are cut loose (or used to be) once they make bail, so they can continue breaking the law makes me ill.

Because the ACLU is an anti American, fifth column network that is doing their part of destroying America from with in...

Best Sarah I can do on short notice. Gotta take the kids to see Santa!

re: #168 Wyatt Earp

I still have that image of Sarah in the dress with the awesome thigh-high boots. Knocked me right back into puberty!

Are these the boots?

re: #182 IslandLibertarian

Replace church with synagogue and Christian with Jew...
Kristallnacht
/never again? not even a first time!

I don't know about that. Jews have been taking a pretty big hit worldwide lately, too.

Now substitute church with mosque and Christian with mulsim - THEN you have a hate crime!

re: #131 alegrias

No problem--I've run into him and think Emanuel's a schmuck.

The biggest sleazebag I've ever had the pleasure of meeting in person was Terry McAullife, before he became chairman of the DNC. He was a guest speaker at a class I took in DC.

I wanted to go back to my hotel and take a shower as soon as he left the room.

re: #188 reine.de.tout

Whoa!
Maybe ya'll have seen this, but I'm just now seeing it:
1981 MURDER OF SON OF ‘AMERICA’S MOST WANTED’ HOST SOLVED

Best news of the day!

Some of those comments on huffpo, I don't have words for.

That is amazing, and at the same time, convincing me even more that I should become a legal gun owner.

re: #198 CapeCoddah

And Rosie should be wearing fashions designed by Barnum and Bailey.

Think Caterpillar tractor equipment is more fitting for Rosie...BTW, No offense to Caterpillar.

re: #194 WrathofG-d

No.
It is not a comparison.
I am pointing out a thought process that is GROWING in this country.
It can happen again. To another group.
Remember Weather Undergrounds "Solution"?

re: #204 Wyatt Earp

Best Sarah I can do on short notice. Gotta take the kids to see Santa!

Dang! She shore is purty...

Drunken Israeli illegal alien disrupts Jetblue flight

re: #210 foxsecret

Think Caterpillar tractor equipment is more fitting for Rosie...BTW, No offense to Caterpillar.

LOL, Hubby is an equiptment operator, I know CAT well. Rosie would need a 980 CAT FEL minimum.

re: #206 vapig

re: #182 IslandLibertarian

Ok it seems that some people around here need a bit of an education on what Kristalnacht was.

KRISTALLNACHT – THE NOVEMBER 1938 POGROMS

Seventy years ago, on November 9–10, 1938, the Nazis staged vicious pogroms—state sanctioned, anti-Jewish riots—against the Jewish community of Germany. These came to be known as Kristallnacht (now commonly translated as “Night of Broken Glass”), a reference to the untold numbers of broken windows of synagogues, Jewish-owned stores, community centers, and homes plundered and destroyed during the pogroms. Encouraged by the Nazi regime, the rioters burned or destroyed 267 synagogues, vandalized or looted 7,500 Jewish businesses, and killed at least 91 Jewish people. They also damaged many Jewish cemeteries, hospitals, schools, and homes as police and fire brigades stood aside. Kristallnacht was a turning point in history. The pogroms marked an intensification of Nazi anti-Jewish policy that would culminate in the Holocaust—the systematic, state-sponsored murder of Jews.

This is NOTHING like Kristalnacht!

re: #198 CapeCoddah

And Rosie should be wearing fashions designed by Barnum and Bailey.

LOL! I loved her in Dumbo!

re: #214 CapeCoddah

LOL, Hubby is an equiptment operator, I know CAT well. Rosie would need a 980 CAT FEL minimum.

Now that's Funny! LOL!

re: #194 WrathofG-d

You're joking right? You are comparing one as-of-now isolated incident, possibly done by one random vandal to KRISTALNACHT?

Well, it has to start somewhere and Christians are the lefts new bogeyman. Everything that is evil is because of white Christians.

You haven't noticed (I have) but it has become perfectly acceptible to mock, humiliate, bully, taunt and even assault Christians today. We're nothing but intolerant bigots, donchaknow?

re: #217 foxsecret

Now that's Funny! LOL!

Funny, but true!

re: #216 gclaghorn

LOL! I loved her in Dumbo!

But her best work was in

Fantasia

.

A couple other notes here as well.

Arson is not uncommon in Alaska, but it's usually a business, not a church as focus.

High school kids in Alaska are notoriously wild, and have been known to drive trucks through high shools and malls, kidnap Mayor's paintings for ransom, drink before they are legal, and other wild things, all while still being pretty conservative in political views.

Regardless who done it, they need to find the sunsabitches and throw the book at them.

re: #211 IslandLibertarian

I believe that an attack on a Church is horrible. I also believe that persecution against religious Christians is possible. I also believe that religious Christians are treated inequitably by American society.

I do not however believe that anything close to Kristalnacht is happening, could happen, or probably would happen.

re: #216 gclaghorn

LOL! I loved her in Dumbo!

Lord, Poor dumbo was not that big! Much smarter, too!

re: #202 rawmuse

Every Christian knows that Christian persecution is never far away.

DING! DING! DING!

re: #137 ArmyWife

Going to put dumplings in the venison stew, brb

Venison yummm. I had venison once in my life - and it was the best thing ever.

(poor deer)

re: #29 armaros

Sarah Palin has real faith; of course she is attacked, the powers of darkness fear her.

It is an old story.

re: #223 CapeCoddah

Lord, Poor dumbo was not that big! Much smarter, too!

I meant this scene.

re: #215 WrathofG-d

Uh - no, we don't. We are saying that it starts somewhere.

The signs are already in place that that's their next move. How do you think Russia was made Godless?

re: #180 buzzsawmonkey

To piggy back on this - ANYONE can visit ANYONE in the hospital, barring a restraining order. This particular talking point is bunk, but it sounds so good, doesn't it? "Oh I just want to visit my loved one in the hospital!" OK, get off your arse and do it then! You don't need to be married, unioned, blood oathed, super secret hand shaked, nothing. In fact, I visit strangers ALL THE TIME in the hospital (soldiers returning from Iraq - I also sneak in cookies, please don't tell on me).

The next tear jerker "I just want to leave my loved one my estate" OK then, write a will and knock yourself out. If a person can leave their cat or dog everything they own, by George, you can leave a person whatever you desire in a will.

Rant off.

re: #215 WrathofG-d

Lighten up!
I was referring to the hateful comments by jerks that were pleased that a church was burnt. I know what Kristallnacht was. IT WAS THE TRUE COMING OUT OF THE HOLOCAUST!
I am saying that there is a master race way of thinking on the left that could lead to another time of atrocity.

Sorry if anyone else has made the point, but once again I am impressed with Sarah Palin's ability to think and talk and her ability to convey her sense of genuineness and honesty... unlike the phoney-baloney idjit she ran with (who shall go unnamed).

Sarah Palin 2012!

re: #218 vapig

Well, it has to start somewhere and Christians are the lefts new bogeyman. Everything that is evil is because of white Christians.

You haven't noticed (I have) but it has become perfectly acceptible to mock, humiliate, bully, taunt and even assault Christians today. We're nothing but intolerant bigots, donchaknow?

I whole heartedly agree with your second paragraph. But what you seem to ignore is the white Christian's majority here in the United States as of now. That doesn't make the "mocking, humiliating, bullying, taunting, or even assaulting" of Christians acceptable or correct...but its a far path from the turning point towards the Holocaust.

The Krystallnacht comparison is insanely over the top.

re: #180 buzzsawmonkey

I drop in on the AFA site now and then to see which of my favorite TV shows they are trying to get off the air. Every time I drop in, they are boycotting someone for supporting the "gay agenda" Things like equal rights for gay couples, and the rest. They always have a church guy ranting about the gay lifestyle. That's what I meant about the church in the bed room. I'm not gay, but but if I were, I'd feel the same way about the church opinions about my lifestyle as I do about their attitude about what I watch or read.
Oppose the gay lifestyle, don't have same sex relationships, think Playboy is porn, don't read it. That's my issue.

re: #188 reine.de.tout

Whoa!
Maybe ya'll have seen this, but I'm just now seeing it:
1981 MURDER OF SON OF ‘AMERICA’S MOST WANTED’ HOST SOLVED

i just can't even imagine the sadness and pain that family has been thru.
and the frustration in trying to find this killer.
i pray they find some peace in their lives.
(there is evil in the world)

re: #227 gclaghorn

I meant this scene.

ROFLMAO, forgot about that scene!

re: #202 rawmuse

Every Christian knows that Christian persecution is never far away.

Governor Boggs of Missouri put out an Extermination Order on Mormons in 1838. It wasn't rescinded until 1976.

re: #222 WrathofG-d

I believe that an attack on a Church is horrible. I also believe that persecution against religious Christians is possible. I also believe that religious Christians are treated inequitably by American society.

I do not however believe that anything close to Kristalnacht is happening, could happen, or probably would happen.

We do.

And by then people will have been conditioned to believe we brought it upon ourselves. They are already saying so.

Sound familiar?

re: #225 FrogMarch

Poor deer nothing. They are over populated and die of disease and starvation when they don't end up in my freezer. ;)

re: #222 WrathofG-d

I do not however believe that anything close to Kristalnacht is happening, could happen, or probably would happen.

HOW FUCKING SURE ARE YOU ABOUT THAT?
Look who is about to take the oath of office.
Anything could happen.

re: #214 CapeCoddah

...with an extra counterweight!

re: #229 ArmyWife

Actually, it's not so much visiting rights as it is the right to make decisions for your loved one.

I don't mind that, I think people should be able to declare any one person that they wish to make decisions for them, but I think that the whole marriage issue was about forcing acceptance.

Oh by the way in case you did not get the memeo, John McCain wants all linking of BHO to the corrupt Chicago Machine to cease.
Well OK then , A guy runs a fantastic campaign like he did, you justy have to listen. Go away John.

re: #241 WindHorse

...with an extra counterweight!

Damn, I thought about that after I posted! LOL

re: #230 IslandLibertarian

Lighten up!
I was referring to the hateful comments by jerks that were pleased that a church was burnt. I know what Kristallnacht was. IT WAS THE TRUE COMING OUT OF THE HOLOCAUST!
I am saying that there is a master race way of thinking on the left that could lead to another time of atrocity.

ah. Yes, I believe that The Left (and even some on the Right) definitely have it out for the religious (especially the Christians). I don't forsee outright attacks on them however, as white Christians hold too much power here in the U.S. Like the Islamists, they will use your good nature, "turn the other cheek" mentality, and the laws of the U.S. against you.

Christianity won't be violently removed from society, you will be quietly removed; one small "politically correct" act at a time.

re: #231 WindHorse

OT - my horse is a wind horse, too. But probably not in the same way as what you mean ;)!

re: #239 ArmyWife

California fish and game uses starvation to control the deer herds because not many people hunt here anymore.

re: #243 opnion

Oh by the way in case you did not get the memeo, John McCain wants all linking of BHO to the corrupt Chicago Machine to cease.
Well OK then , A guy runs a fantastic campaign like he did, you justy have to listen. Go away John.

Well, if he wants it that badly, let me think about it...there. No. Shut up and go back in your corner, John.

re: #242 EmmmieG

I'm with ya - but the talking point is "visiting", right? And...there is this little thing called a power of attorney...

re: #235 nyc redneck

i just can't even imagine the sadness and pain that family has been thru.
and the frustration in trying to find this killer.
i pray they find some peace in their lives.
(there is evil in the world)

If there was ever a case of turning evil into good, this is it. Walsh has helped find more children and put away more criminals.

re: #243 opnion

Oh by the way in case you did not get the memeo, John McCain wants all linking of BHO to the corrupt Chicago Machine to cease.
Well OK then , A guy runs a fantastic campaign like he did, you justy have to listen. Go away John.

I am beginning to think McCain was Obamas real campaign manager.

re: #247 Ojoe

I hunt! I got one planned. I hunt with a bow.

I hope this turns out NOT to have been political. (It's possible it isn't.)
Unfortunately, those comments at HuffPo, etc. in and of themselves show how easily deranged politics can lead to a vicious, criminal disposition.

re: #252 rawmuse

I hunt! I got one planned. I hunt with a bow.

Do you use arrows, too, or just the whack them with the bow?

re: #243 opnion

Oh by the way in case you did not get the memeo, John McCain wants all linking of BHO to the corrupt Chicago Machine to cease.
Well OK then , A guy runs a fantastic campaign like he did, you justy have to listen. Go away John.

Juan McCain can fuck right off.

re: #253 wolfie

Yeah, they even have hate trolls at the Daily News Miner article on it, check the comments:

[Link: www.newsminer.com...]

Sarah Palin, clearly a strong woman with her own mind, clear values, and brass ovaries seems to have effect of making the liberal left lose their collective minds. They then behave in all sorts of sexist, deprecating and denigrating ways. As much as they bleat about feminism, equality and gender neutrality, the mere mention or sight of her arouses insanity and antipathy toward her.
Setting her church on fire, is an extreme example.

re: #238 vapig

We do.

And by then people will have been conditioned to believe we brought it upon ourselves. They are already saying so.

Sound familiar?

You are completely ignoring the minority aspect to the treatment of Jews throughout history.

That being said, I hope I am right.

re: #253 wolfie

I hope this turns out NOT to have been political. (It's possible it isn't.)
Unfortunately, those comments at HuffPo, etc. in and of themselves show how easily deranged politics can lead to a vicious, criminal disposition.

Using the logic of "hate crime" legislation, it obviously is political and a hate crime . . . if the same thing was done to a black church or a gay-owned building.

re: #254 CapeCoddah

Do you use arrows, too, or just the whack them with the bow?

I give them just a casual glance, and they fall right over.
I am that ugly :)

re: #260 rawmuse

I give them just a casual glance, and they fall right over.
I am that ugly :)

Wow, that is REAL talent!