And she agreed! They are all insane!

If that is all it takes to get a woman in the middle east...me and my 10'' shoes are going!

Anyone surprised?

Maybe she just wanted the last name "Shoeflinger" instead of some of the other options available to her.

A perfect fit.

I seem to remember something in Wayne's World 2 about what we could do with his own shoes.

re: #2 WrathofG-d

If that is all it takes to get a woman in the middle east...me and my 10'' shoes are going!

I wonder if my size 7 1/2 would be enough.

Glad to hear she has a choice in it and all...
/blech

One explanation, two words:

Arab consanguinity

Don't you just love these people?

I am not sure I want a woman that is given so easily.

these people are like children...I dont know what to think about this stuff...I just cant get used to it...and we sacrifice our treasure for this shit?...maybe it's time to adjust our ME paradigm...

re: #1 Outrider

And she agreed! They are all insane!

Consanguinity.

re: #4 CyanSnowHawk

Maybe she just wanted the last name "Shoeflinger" instead of some of the other options available to her.

Amal Saad Shoeflinger.

(amal-ittle-saad?)

re: #11 buzzsawmonkey

My question is, when does the shoe-toss go Olympic?

Would the competitors be tossing their shoes at American presidents? Jimmy Carter maybe?

Still waiting for the photo.

I bet the daughter looks like an old shoe.

re: #7 RirghtSideOfTheFence

I wonder if my size 7 1/2 would be enough.

Hey its Iraq, if she complains you can beat her. In Iraq, size matters but they sure as the 12th imam wouldn't complain!

In the future, we shall express our dismay at Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler Obama by flinging our shoes at those 1000-foot murals of him to be erected on every street corner.

Of course, we'll be left shoeless at the re-education camp.

re: #16 RirghtSideOfTheFence

Would the competitors be tossing their shoes at American presidents? Jimmy Carter maybe?

concrete overshoes?

re: #3 RirghtSideOfTheFence

Anyone surprised?

I was surprised that she wasn't eight-years-old.

Iran gets nuke... uses it against Israel... Israel trots out it's nukes and creates a living dead zone called the middle east where the rest of the worlds oil companies send workers in to drill wearing radiation suits. Price of oil goes down while emissions glow in the dark...

I wish they could have tossed him into Gitmo with the rest of the "heroes".

she was a shoein.

“This is something that would honor me. I would like to live in Iraq, especially if I were attached to this hero,”

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

See all that we have in common?

The shoe's probably a better fit... Haven't seen a picture of her but I'm sure she's lovely...

My daughter would marry a man who throws shoes at her, provided the shoes are Manolos, Prada and Jimmy Choo.

This is all too insane, the world has finally lost it.

Why would she want to live in Iraq. Could it be because Something George Bush did to improve the place?

"I would like to live in Iraq, especially if I were attached to this hero,”

As a wedding present, I'll be happy to send a heavy duty staple gun.

Remember-these peeps are raised in 'intentional poverty', and indoctrinated into a religion-just like Russians were force fed the party line. Can't fault their judgement-they have no knowledge: but you can fault the Mid East Govts. that dumbed them down that far, to maintain power.

Ungrateful bastards...the whole middle east. A pox on all of them.

offering his 20-year-old daughter in marriage

Isn't that kind of old not to already been married off in this "culture"?

/must be really good looking

re: #29 Alouette

My daughter would marry a man who throws shoes at her, provided the shoes are Manolos, Prada and Jimmy Choo.

Bless you.

Will the happy couple be co-hosting the planned MSNBC show?

re: #33 Pietr

Remember-these peeps are raised in 'intentional poverty', and indoctrinated into a religion-just like Russians were force fed the party line. Can't fault their judgement-they have no knowledge: but you can fault the Mid East Govts. that dumbed them down that far, to maintain power.

I fault their judgment.

My American friends... you sacrificed your soldiers in battlefield and your treasury in order to provide freedom to Iraq. Now, it's obvious that sacrifice was useless.

Perhaps America should enact an "Manhattan Project" in order to provide a reliable alternative to oil. After you and the western world are freed of the Arab oil, perhaps would be time to let the Arabs live in their 7th century fantasy.

Those ingrates just love to be under a dictator boot. Perhaps it's time to us, westerners, to realize that and stop to spread democracy into the Arab world. It's like tossing pearls to pigs, as we say here in Portugal.

And here is the blushing bride.

Warning, viewing may not be suitable for children, people with heart problems or if you have eaten in the last 12 hours.

Image: helen%20thomas.jpg

Okay...cheap shoes...cheap throw...cheap wife...cheap life...cheap children... and it all started because of shoes...
Imelda Marcos would be so proud...
/

re: #17 bosforus

Still waiting for the photo.

Image: burka1.jpg

Shoeless in Iraq

A love story.

re: #2 WrathofG-d

If that is all it takes to get a woman in the middle east...me and my 10'' shoes are going!

But Wrath, your size 10 shoes would win you a size 7 girl, with her size 3 head, dwarfed by years of binding... and a size 2 father-in-law, with his bare-knuckle beliefs on beating women and on honor-killing people who marry kffir, like you...

Thank the lord my dad frowns on offering his daughters to, well, anyone.

Wow - if he held out he probably could have gotten one of the hags on The View.

STORY BEHIND THE STORY

After seeing the daughter that was offered, Iraqi journalist Muntazer al-Zaidi asked the Egyptian father

"Don't you have anything in a camel or goat instead?"

She may be desperate to get out of her Daddy's house. After all, she IS 20. Old maid, by their standards, I'm sure.

re: #44 Karridine

So I get the dowry, then the father kills her? Excellent! Dowry but no lifetime of nagging.

big time SARC

re: #42 HelloDare

[Link: www.alamut.com...]

Lovely and shapely, congrats shoe thrower!

re: #32 Opinionated

"I would like to live in Iraq, especially if I were attached to this hero,”

As a wedding present, I'll be happy to send a heavy duty staple gun.

I can send a hot glue gun.

re: #34 LGoPs

It isn't just the middle east. The whole world is a bunch of ungrateful bastards

re: #39 marsl

Actually, I see this episode as showing just how much freedom people have in Iraq. Just because they have rights doesn't mean they have wisdom, judgement, or even manners. Now, they are free to be idiots. I'm sure Saddam never had to duck a shoe.

He was also offered a free car.

re: #40 DEZes

Almost got me. You are lucky I have gotten very cautious on these threads. Didn't want to lose my most wonderful dinner.

/and pictures like that deserve a warning. . . .

The whole middle east is a sick joke.

re: #42 HelloDare

[Link: www.alamut.com...]

No Harry Potter links, please.

re: #50 WrathofG-d

You one BAD boy, Wrath... :D

has any Iraqi pol or journo or anyone publically denounced this juvenile shoe fit?...I mean are we supposed to really believe that most Muslims endorse this incident?...am I stupoid again?...maybe GWB had it wrong all along

re: #55 HelloDare

He was also offered a free car.

Perfect fit.

She may feel differently about the heroics of shoe throwing when he is beating her with one.

re: #48 ploome hineni

watchit

you too wil be shouted down as RACIST

well this shit makes me wonder if I am...bigot at least I guess...

And somebody gave him this house.

re: #57 BlueCanuck

Almost got me. You are lucky I have gotten very cautious on these threads. Didn't want to lose my most wonderful dinner.

/and pictures like that deserve a warning. . . .

I decided a warning was necessary, I lost 3 pounds just posting it.

Have I got a cobbler for you, I mean them.

re: #39 marsl

My American friends... you sacrificed your soldiers in battlefield and your treasury in order to provide freedom to Iraq. Now, it's obvious that sacrifice was useless.

Perhaps America should enact an "Manhattan Project" in order to provide a reliable alternative to oil. After you and the western world are freed of the Arab oil, perhaps would be time to let the Arabs live in their 7th century fantasy.

Those ingrates just love to be under a dictator boot. Perhaps it's time to us, westerners, to realize that and stop to spread democracy into the Arab world. It's like tossing pearls to pigs, as we say here in Portugal.

This moment in history is a huge opportunity for an energy invention to make an actual CHANGE.

Great quote I ran across.

"One pair of shoes is insignificant compared to 8 million purple fingers." -- radarrider (On Livejournal)

re: #65 HelloDare

And somebody gave him this house.

I thought she said she wanted to move to Iraq,,, not Holland !

re: #65 HelloDare

And somebody gave him this house.

LOL!

re: #2 WrathofG-d

If that is all it takes to get a woman in the middle east...me and my 10'' shoes are going!

Are you sure you don't wanna give her your big 10-inch...record?

/apologies to Aerosmith and others ;-P

I would like to live in Iraq, especially if I were attached to this hero,”

How heroic was it to throw a shoe at President Bush? Now throw one at Saddaam and I might be willing to give credit for having balls...

She needs to marry this guy so she's off the market and no decent fellow accidentally marries her...

I wish this story would go shoe!

re: #74 So?

I wish this story would go shoe!

Thats because you have no sole, you heel

re: #68 debutaunt

This moment in history is a huge opportunity for an energy invention to make an actual CHANGE.

not to sound defeatist but it aint gonna happen...the libs got us by the balls on this one

re: #46 monkeytime

Wow - if he held out he probably could have gotten one of the hags on The View.

I'm thinking thats a bit harsh, for the shoe tosser. Yeah, the filthy bastard threw shoes at my President but, that seems a bit harsh...

re: #70 sattv4u2

I thought she said she wanted to move to Iraq,,, not Holland !

Ah a sabot, hence the word sabotage. ;)

re: #63 bulwrk

She may feel differently about the heroics of shoe throwing when he is beating her with one.

Ah, yes, but not to worry, he is a MANLY MAN, who spoke shoes to power, who threw truth in sooth to the front of the booth, a bash at Boosh, NOT Barfurush!

/he would NEVER beat his lovely bride...
/more than a whack or three, IF she needed it...

re: #17 bosforus

Still waiting for the photo.

tempted to post a photo of a camel, but won't...

"I would like to live in Iraq, especially if I were attached to this hero,ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT IS A FREE DEMOCRACY WHERE WOMEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE."
/well, it's a speculation...

I wonder how much interest the media will have when this guy becomes a salad tosser?

re: #51 2by2

Lovely and shapely, congrats shoe thrower!

Do you, Ahmed, take the Grim Reaper...

Iraqi journalist Muntazer al-Zaidi, who threw his shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush

Well, I can certainly see why the Arab world is so ecstatic over this heroic effort.

/it will undoubtedly go down in history as the greatest Arab military victory of all time

Here's a real photo of his wife.

re: #80 Dustyvet

tempted to post a photo of a camel, but won't...

Their first fight. How sweet.

re: #85 HelloDare

Here's a real photo of his wife.

Thats what she gets for trying to get dressed while standing on her head!

re: #53 RirghtSideOfTheFence

It isn't just the middle east. The whole world is a bunch of ungrateful bastards

Until someone threatens them, and they come whining to us. Every damned time.

The daughter's response takes the concept of sockpuppet to a new ... er ... level.

re: #77 CapeCoddah

What about Oprah...she's still single...

re: #75 sattv4u2

Thats because you have no sole, you heel

You want him booted?

When I visited Turkey with USS Yellowstone back in 1992(?) a mixed group of us enlisted folks went out. The owner of the resteraunt asked told me he'd give me 2 camels for a nice looking blonde girl in our group. I thought he was joking at the time, but after, I started thinking he was just a little serious.

Had GWB no illegally occupied and invaded Iraq, their fathers wouldn't be trading their daughters as chattel!
/moonbaticus

re: #84 Killian Bundy

Well, I can certainly see why the Arab world is so ecstatic over this heroic effort.

/it will undoubtedly go down in history as the greatest Arab military victory of all time

How 'bout the only Arab miltary victory...

re: #91 OldLineTexan

You want him booted?

Who's in charge of that , Thom McCann ?

re: #96 buzzsawmonkey

Don't boggart Hogwart that dementor, man.

Given the option of marrying into a family like that, I for one would retain my shoes.

re: #85 HelloDare

Here's a real photo of his wife.

ROTFL,
you have me in stitches, man
mercy!

An Egyptian man said on Wednesday he was offering his 20-year-old daughter in marriage...

Just those opening few words tells us, once again, all we need to know about 7th century savages who worship the pedophile phony God Mo.

re: #90 notutopia

What about Oprah...she's still single...

C'mon, there's at least three of them in that suit...

re: #93 WrathofG-d

Had GWB no illegally occupied and invaded Iraq, their fathers wouldn't be trading their daughters as chattel!
/moonbaticus

I'm hip...history starts at the 6 o'clock news...

re: #77 CapeCoddah

I'm thinking thats a bit harsh, for the shoe tosser. Yeah, the filthy bastard threw shoes at my President but, that seems a bit harsh...

lol.

Egypt must be a real hellhole if Iraq sound like a good place to live...

Sorry, I get the feeling Mr. Shoe Tosser has recently got a new wife, or husband.

re: #95 sattv4u2

Who's in charge of that , Thom McCann ?

Bruno Magli!

So did the Secret Service post the shoes on eBay yet?

Shoeless and Clueless; a perfect match!

I have proof he is picking up his new wife at the airport.

Image: ?action=view&current=camel.jpg

re: #107 OldLineTexan

Bruno Magli!

O.J. sargeant at arms ?

re: #95 sattv4u2

No it was Buster Brown...

re: #94 LGoPs

How 'bout the only Arab miltary victory...

They whomped the Turks a few times last century, and there was that whole almost owning Europe thing...

re: #110 DEZes

I have proof he is picking up his new wife at the airport.

[Link: s215.photobucket.com...]

Avis Rent a Camel

re: #75 sattv4u2

Thats because you have no sole, you heel

[Link: thedailyaphorism.com...]

re: #101 OldLineTexan

put her in a Burka...no one will know...

re: #103 albusteve

I'm hip...history starts at the 6 o'clock news...

Well we ALL know that 9/11 was caused by the U.S.' illegal invasion of Iraq.

re: #90 notutopia

What about Oprah...she's still single...

LOL, I have no love for Oprah, but she might keep his ass right in line...

re: #112 notutopia

No it was Buster Brown...

Buster Brown to me always sounded like a good name for a black guy that liked to punch!

I'd offer my daughter to the guy, and by daughter I mean fist.

So who'll wear the shoes in this family?

The daughter, Amal Saad Gumaa, said she agreed with the idea. “This is something that would honor me. I would like to live in Iraq, especially if I were attached to this hero,” she told Reuters by telephone.

What an ass backwards society these people live in. I fear that there is no hope for them.

If she's already 20 she's already an "old maid."

re: #102 ploome hineni

when does intolerance of bestial behavior become bigotry?

how far do we have to descend morally to accept behavior like that?

aren't WE better than that?

well I am...I'm registered with the Better Bigot Bureau...

re: #113 OldLineTexan

They whomped the Turks a few times last century, and there was that whole almost owning Europe thing...

But their greatest general, Saladin, was a Kurd.

*snicker* ... I love it!

re: #123 mean Gene

If she's already 20 she's already an "old maid."

A worn out shoe.

re: #117 WrathofG-d

Well we ALL know that 9/11 was caused by the U.S.' illegal invasion of Iraq.

I thought it was because we had the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor as a pretense for going to war in the Middle East,,

I'M SOOO CONFUSED!

Wait, sorry, I forgot, was an Egyptian guy who offered his daughter, or Bill Clinton?

I'm on fire tonight!

re: #118 CapeCoddah

LOL, I have no love for Oprah, but she might keep his ass right in line...

I bet she has lot's of shoes to throw. They could do live on Oprah. Now thats a reaallly big shooee folks.

I claim first post bagging rights for this thread, way back, somewhere?

And what's ailing the hamsters?

Crazy bastards. Of course, someone on D.U. or Kos has probably offered him something at this point, as well...no marriage required.

re: #114 sattv4u2

Avis Rent a Camel

...and two pieces of ID? ... thank y-
What?
Oh, yes Sir, she's a virgin... her first time with Avis!

re: #129 buzzsawmonkey

I thought that now her recent weight gain made the news, she was double rather than single...even if unattached.

What weight gain?
You've got the bulge on me.

If Israel weren't occupying Palestine this kindhearted gentleman wouldn't even think of transferring his possession of his daughter to Abu Shoeflinger

re: #131 A Kiwi Infidel

I claim first post bragging rights for this thread, way back, somewhere?

And what's ailing the hamsters?

PIMF!

I'm outtie. See ya tomorrow, lizards.

re: #110 DEZes

I have proof he is picking up his new wife at the airport.

[Link: s215.photobucket.com...]

ROFLMAO!

re: #119 sattv4u2

Nope that was Rope a dope...

re: #113 OldLineTexan

They whomped the Turks a few times last century, and there was that whole almost owning Europe thing...

Nah, the Arabs couldn't even beat the French. And they were never going to defeat Byzantium from that other end.

The Turks were a more credible threat by far. Less internal tribalism, and a better grasp of internal European tribalism (notably the Venetians *spit*).

War resister faces Christmas Eve deportation

The War Resisters Support Campaign says a former U.S. soldier living in Nanaimo, B.C., has been told he must leave Canada by Dec. 24 or face removal by force.

Cliff Cornell, originally from Arkansas, arrived in Canada in January 2005 after refusing to deploy to Iraq, and he now works as an assistant manager of a retail store.

/ho, ho, ho, Merry Christmas!

re: #114 sattv4u2

Avis Rent a Camel

Do they come with satellite radio and GPS?

re: #126 So?

A worn out shoe.

A worn out OLD shoe.

re: #129 buzzsawmonkey

I thought that now her recent weight gain made the news, she was double rather than single...even if unattached.

That was pretty heavy handed.

re: #146 buzzsawmonkey

Oh, apparently Oprah, like the universe Al Goreged, is expanding.

A Mary Jane for a Mary Jane.

Maybe more like a mule for a mule.

Maybe they'll want to watch this at the wedding.

re: #129 buzzsawmonkey

Put her under a double burka then...and ship her over there...

re: #102 ploome hineni

funny how nobody wants to touch that concept...HAIL!

re: #149 mean Gene

Maybe more like a mulelah for a mulelah.

same smell ,, same instincts ,,, same stubborness to change

re: #111 sattv4u2

O.J. sargeant at arms ?

That was the plan, but all of a sudden he became unavailable for the next 9 yrs.

re: #132 capitalist piglet

Crazy bastards. Of course, someone on D.U. or Kos has probably offered him something at this point, as well...no marriage required.

I really doubt he is that desperate.

re: #142 Killian Bundy

War resister faces Christmas Eve deportation

/ho, ho, ho, Merry Christmas!

Throw the bum out. We have no place for deserters here.

General Napier, updated for the shoe thrower.

You say that it is your custom to throw shoes as an insult.
Very well. We also have a custom: making fun of pompous asses
who imagine their shoe carries magical insulting powers.

When you toss your shoes, we will mock the effete custom.
Throw your shoe and miss, and we will make fun of your lousy arm.

Today you are free to offer insult to the powerful without
fear of torture and death for your extended family,
courtesy of the U.S. Military.

You may not care about that freedom.
We note your priorities, and mock them.

re: #154 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

That was the plan, but all of a sudden he became unavailable for the next 9 yrs.

oh ,,,he'll be "available" !

OT,
He can't take the ''pressure'' from being president-elect.
0bama is heading out on his THIRD vacation in less than a year.
10 days in Hawaaii.

I'm just happy that reporter didn't have one of these.

a slob throws shoes and becomes an instant hero and women are "offered" to him.
what a primitive society. what a backward bunch of losers.
it is difficult to pretend there is even hope for these people.
i really find the women, as reward for bad, behavior really annoying.

re: #110 DEZes

That is too too funny!

re: #160 HelloDare

I'm just happy that reporter didn't have one of these.

one of what ,,, a fingerless glove,,, a heavily starched collar ?

re: #113 OldLineTexan

They whomped the Turks a few times last century, and there was that whole almost owning Europe thing...

I was being down on them reflexively. You're right about Europe but I think their high water mark was Potiers back in the 700's. Don't know about the Turks. I did however work with one of their armies back in the 90's and I've never seen a sorrier bunch of soldiers...

It's the year 2108. Historians look back to remember George W Bush's most memorable moments as historical president.

1. He almost died chocking on pretzel.
2. Someone through a shoe at him for invading his country.
3. He is remembered for his last good dead by saying "I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system."

re: #161 nyc redneck

a slob throws shoes and becomes an instant hero and women are "offered" to him.
what a primitive society. what a backward bunch of losers.
it is difficult to pretend there is even hope for these people.
i really find the women, as reward for bad, behavior really annoying.

amen sister. what a bunch of idiots.

re: #140 Zimriel

Nah, the Arabs couldn't even beat the French. And they were never going to defeat Byzantium from that other end.

The Turks were a more credible threat by far. Less internal tribalism, and a better grasp of internal European tribalism (notably the Venetians *spit*).

When the French were Franks they were a bit tougher. But Mo's successors put the hurt on Europe and owned al-Andalus for what, 800 years?

re: #153 sattv4u2

same smell ,, same instincts ,,, same stubborness to change

I love telling people,
"Mullah in Korean means Don't KNOW!"

How Tom Scott, political cartoonist, saw the matter.

Guy should have thrown some berluti's or John Lobbs.
Those are the real chic magnets.

re: #161 nyc redneck

a slob throws shoes and becomes an instant hero and women are "offered" to him.
what a primitive society. what a backward bunch of losers.
it is difficult to pretend there is even hope for these people.
i really find the women, as reward for bad, behavior really annoying.

so does that make you a bigot when you say "these people"...jus askin

re: #165 Egfrow

It's the year 2108. Historians look back to remember George W Bush's most memorable moments as historical president.

1. He almost died chocking on pretzel.
2. Someone through a shoe at him for invading his country.
3. He is remembered for his last good dead by saying "I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system."

Actually, I believe they will look back and say, "He kept my family, friends and neighbors safe." Precisely what he was supposed to do.

re: #151 notutopia

Put her under a double burka then...and ship her over there...

Circus burka = curka
/clown car costs extra

re: #172 CapeCoddah

Even though that's true. The Media and this new current administration will make good efforts to make my above joke real.

re: #165 Egfrow

It's the year 2108. Historians look back to remember George W Bush's most memorable moments as historical president.

1. He almost died chocking on pretzel.
2. Someone through a shoe at him for invading his country.
3. He is remembered for his last good dead by saying "I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system."

How many "deads" does he get to do before he dies?

Don't come to Vegas---too much snow at the airport!

[Link: cms.mccarran.com...]

The Iraqi court should sentence the reporter to a life without shoes.

re: #157 jaunte

Jaunte, what if we requested at Soldier.com to have all the soldiers save and box up all their grungy boots smeared in muck and dung from Iraq and Afghanistan and then have the Airborne Div. drop them out all over the middle east... hundreds of thousands of boots...
a sort of reciprocal holiday present of sorts...

Good evening.

So far in tonight's market news, the futures are down fractionally, the Nikkei is down slightly and the Hang Seng is up 2%

re: #177 HelloDare

The Iraqi court should sentence the reporter to a life without shoes.

no big sacrifice that!

Ok, I'm out. I'm running off to Bel Air to start throwing shoes at people.

These people have been so used to having their minds enslaved, that they simply can't conceive of anything else.

This has been known for thousands of years. Once a mind is enslaved, that's it. Very few can rise above it. This is why Rabbis pointed out that the Children of Israel roamed in the desert for 40 years. It wasn't because God couldn't bring them to the promised land sooner. The problem was that an entire generation had to go by before their children were ready to accept the responsibility for their own deeds.

Iraq is no different. Foisting Democratic policies on a nation of mental slaves is a long term effort. Shoe dude is one of many such people. They deserve our pity, not derision.

re: #181 WrathofG-d

Ok, I'm out. I'm running off to Bel Air to start throwing shoes at people.

Foot Prints of Bel Air?

re: #181 WrathofG-d

Ok, I'm out. I'm running off to Bel Air to start throwing shoes at people.

Go on, tell the truth, you are just looking for a hot Egyptian woman, right?

re: #178 notutopia

I like the idea, but I would keep the boots and just deliver what's smeared on them.

I'm sure she is both a visual and an intellectual treasure. Give your own flesh and blood to some loser who couldn't even hit Bush with a shoe.

re: #179 3 wood

Good evening.

So far in tonight's market news, the futures are down fractionally, the Nikkei is down slightly and the Hang Seng is up 2%

cool ,,, and whats tonights Mega Millions # please. I still have enough time to run out a get a ticket!

re: #175 A Kiwi Infidel

good point!

I threw some shoes at the bar last night and all I got was a good ass whoopin.

re: #183 OldLineTexan

Foot Prints of Bel Air?

Un sur pass able!

re: #171 albusteve

so does that make you a bigot when you say "these people"...jus askin

lol, oh my,
how abt. i just go w/ "these crude barbarians"
(i don't want to take any chances)

re: #184 A Kiwi Infidel

Go on, tell the truth, you are just looking for a hot Egyptian woman, right?

NTTAWWT.

Just wondering ... the other day, someone (Thanos or Killian?) found a link to a news article about this reporter having been held captive for a couple of days by Iraqi bad dudes. He was released unharmed.

Just wondering ... what's the possibility that the guy is an ego-hound, and made up the story that he'd been kidnapped and held?

The shoe-throwing incident has a publicity-seeking reek to it. Hmmm.

re: #160 HelloDare

I'm just happy that reporter didn't have one of these.

Karl put avay da gun.

re: #189 iceman1960

I threw some shoes at the bar last night and all I got was a good ass whoopin.

you got your ass kicked by a bar? WOW ,, you must have been FACED!

re: #177 HelloDare

The Iraqi court should sentence the reporter to a life without shoes.

How about a life sentence of spit polishing US service members boots?

re: #196 DEZes

How about a life sentence of spit polishing US service members boots asses?

me likey !

re: #174 Egfrow

Even though that's true. The Media and this new current administration will make good efforts to make my above joke real.

It is not funny. This man had the balls to take on a lot of shit, and stand tall throughout. Your remark is disingenuous.

ot
so there I was, driving back to work from lunch. There are two left turn lanes and I am in the one on the right. A very pretty SUV is in the one on the left. As the Green Arrows for left turns come up, the gas guzzling single passenger SUV pushes itself into my lane and i am turning real wide.
As the SUV gets in front of me, there it is OBAMA 08.

The Fed's drop in rates so far has caused a surge in refinancings but not new mortgages.

Fed’s Rate Moves Fail to Spur Home Buying: Chart of the Day

Dec. 17 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve’s efforts to make homes more affordable have yet to bolster buying and instead are fueling a surge in refinancing, according to data compiled by the Mortgage Bankers Association.

As the CHART OF THE DAY shows, the association’s index of mortgage applications for home purchases has fallen this year. A similar refinancing gauge has more than doubled in the past month. Last week’s figures came out today.

Both indicators appear in the top panel. The bottom panel shows refinancings as a percentage of all applications, which climbed last week to the highest level since June 2003.

“The dramatic steps the Fed is taking to lower mortgage rates are mainly intended to spur purchases” and stem a decline in prices, Peter Boockvar, a strategist at Miller Tabak & Co., wrote today in an e-mail.

There is “very little evidence” so far to suggest the central bank’s moves are working, Boockvar wrote. “The Fed is truly out of bullets” to support housing if the industry fails to recover by next year’s second quarter, he added.

The average rate on a 30-year, fixed-rate home loan has declined about a percentage point since the end of October to 5.47 percent, according to Freddie Mac.

So far folks are looking to reduce debt, not take more on, which I think is a healthy thing.

Mortgage rates of 5.47% are very low, but the market thinks they will drop even more, which is another reason why the demand has not jumped.

re: #195 sattv4u2

you got your ass kicked by a bar? WOW ,, you must have been FACED!

never throw shoes in a bar...They have pool sticks.
Hi Satt! Working?

He was proud of the way he lost his shoes.

Until he met a man who had lost his feet.

It was easy to misjudge how different our cultures are. In WWII we occupied Japan and Germany, even writing the Japanese constitution and it worked out fine in the end. The middle east is a different deal then we expected. By now, we assumed a Starbucks on every corner, every dime spent paid back in oil and the life long love of the Iraqi people.

I believe a true conservative should think twice about nation building in the future. The cost in lives and tax dollars may not be appreciated by some that have no concept of a free democracy like we have.

re: #201 HoosierHoops

never throw shoes in a bar...They have pool sticks.
Hi Satt! Working?

nope ,,, day/ night off. I'll be back at it tomorrow during Thursday Night Football handholding European and Mid East TV stations throughout the game

re: #192 OldLineTexan

NTTAWWT.

Just so long as she is and not something else, right?

The earth is a beehive; we all enter by the same door but live in different cells.

/why not...

re: #204 buzzsawmonkey

It used to Buzz, now it's just a promissory note...

re: #186 1AmeriCAN

I'm sure she is both a visual and an intellectual treasure. Give your own flesh and blood to some loser who couldn't even hit Bush with a shoe.

He missed that part of the training for journalists.
He was too busy jumping through the flaming hoop.

Holy cow, the TED spread dropped to 1.57, it was 2.18 just a couple weeks ago.

When you see it get down to 1.15 or so the banks will start lending fast and steady.

re: #206 A Kiwi Infidel

Just so long as she is and not something else, right?

Oy, I learned how to spot a bloke from a sheila on walkabout with Paul Hogan!

re: #203 avanti

It was easy to misjudge how different our cultures are. In WWII we occupied Japan and Germany, even writing the Japanese constitution and it worked out fine in the end. The middle east is a different deal then we expected. By now, we assumed a Starbucks on every corner, every dime spent paid back in oil and the life long love of the Iraqi people.

I believe a true conservative should think twice about nation building in the future. The cost in lives and tax dollars may not be appreciated by some that have no concept of a free democracy like we have.

In the cases of both germany and Japan post WW2 is was almost a decade from the end of the war before either "worked out fine", and even Germany was divided until Reagan/Thatcher/ Pope

re: #205 sattv4u2

nope ,,, day/ night off. I'll be back at it tomorrow during Thursday Night Football handholding European and Mid East TV stations throughout the game

Great! We are having a huge party for the Colts game tomorrow night. We are doing BBQ'd Cornish Hens and all the fixings for 20 people.

re: #211 3 wood

Holy cow, the TED spread dropped to 1.57, it was 2.18 just a couple weeks ago.

When you see it get down to 1.15 or so the banks will start lending fast and steady.

Cliff Notes/ TED SPREAD for Dummies explanation, please

re: #213 sattv4u2

In the cases of both germany and Japan post WW2 is was almost a decade from the end of the war before either "worked out fine", and even Germany was divided until Reagan/Thatcher/ Pope

Might be worth mentioning that we and our allies beat the CRAP out of both countries...they were broke, out of fighting men, and out of spirit.

We went into Iraq on pins and needles BOTH times.

re: #198 CapeCoddah

Fair enough. There is a huge difference than feeling safe and feeling free. When someone sacrifices the last crumbs of Capitalism by supporting Socialist bailouts for the sake of Free markets, well frankly, to me it erases all the good and in the long term what are we going to be left with. Free market capitalism has done more to keep us safe than you can imagine. I still appreciate what Bush has done be he is to eager to lean left of center where it counts.

re: #215 HoosierHoops

Great! We are having a huge party for the Colts game tomorrow night. We are doing BBQ'd Cornish Hens and all the fixings for 20 people.

FEH ,,, I'll be sitting on a conference call with about 20 European and Mid East stations alerting them to commercial breaks whilst I eat my Liptons Cup-O-Soup

re: #203 avanti

It was easy to misjudge how different our cultures are. In WWII we occupied Japan and Germany, even writing the Japanese constitution and it worked out fine in the end. The middle east is a different deal then we expected. By now, we assumed a Starbucks on every corner, every dime spent paid back in oil and the life long love of the Iraqi people.

I believe a true conservative should think twice about nation building in the future. The cost in lives and tax dollars may not be appreciated by some that have no concept of a free democracy like we have.

Did you really expect a starbucks on every corner?
The Japanese were much much more advanced socially than the Islamist countries and/or the Baathist countries ever considered being.
BUT (my big but) Most of the pictures of the shoes being held up and etc and etc have not come out of iraq but out of egypt and iran.

LIBOR dropped as well today:

MONEY MARKETS-Dollar Libor falls as Fed revives risk appetite

* Dollar Libor falls after Fed cut rates close to zero

* Three-month dollar Libor lowest since 2004

* Three-month Euribor posts fresh 2-year low

* Corporate, mortgage bond rally signals risk appetite

re: #197 sattv4u2

me likey !

Maybe I was to quick to post.
I do not want that maggets spit anywhere nere our service members.
He should still polish their shoes though.

Okay,
I'm going home now.
have a great night.

re: #203 avanti

It was easy to misjudge how different our cultures are. In WWII we occupied Japan and Germany, even writing the Japanese constitution and it worked out fine in the end. The middle east is a different deal then we expected. By now, we assumed a Starbucks on every corner, every dime spent paid back in oil and the life long love of the Iraqi people.

I believe a true conservative should think twice about nation building in the future. The cost in lives and tax dollars may not be appreciated by some that have no concept of a free democracy like we have.

I think the lesson learned is if you're going to administer an ass-whoopin', make sure the recipient knows he got his ass whooped.
That's a crude way of saying that part of what made administering Japan and Germany easier was that there was no doubt whatsoever in their minds that they's been stomped.
We proceeded pretty delicately in Iraq, trying to minimize damage. Not sure if it wouldn't have made an impression to MOAB one or two republican Guards outfits

re: #212 OldLineTexan

Oy, I learned how to spot a bloke from a sheila on walkabout with Paul Hogan!

Indeed, a little revision?

Sheila

Bloke

re: #217 OldLineTexan

I understand and agree with your point, however, and I've pointed this out to moonbats over the years that it did take more time in both Germany and Japan than they realized. Most thought "democracy" was achieved in both places VERY shortly after the end of the war

re: #217 OldLineTexan

Might be worth mentioning that we and our allies beat the CRAP out of both countries...they were broke, out of fighting men, and out of spirit.

We went into Iraq on pins and needles BOTH times.

Very true. The same can be said regarding the Palestinians' campaign against Israel. They've never had their teeth kicked out. Until that happens, they'll think that they can win.

90% of women in Egypt have undergone FGM.

re: #226 sattv4u2

I understand and agree with your point, however, and I've pointed this out to moonbats over the years that it did take more time in both Germany and Japan than they realized. Most thought "democracy" was achieved in both places VERY shortly after the end of the war

Oh, no, I am well aware of that. My point was back to the first post more than yours, but it seemed like a good place to tack it.

So, the guy is sending him his daughter. Big woop.

I'm sending him my ex-wife. Still a virgin. Very lovely.

*snicker*

re: #227 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Very true. The same can be said regarding the Palestinians' campaign against Israel. They've never had their teeth kicked out. Until that happens, they'll think that they can win.

win ,, WIN? They have no desire to "WIN". That would eliminate their victimhood and make them accountable to function as a society! What they want is for someone else to take out Israel (they hung their hopes on Saddam ,,, now DinnerJacket) and will depend on Iran and/ or the rest of the Arab world not to mention the UN to take care of everything once the Israelis are gone

re: #213 sattv4u2

In the cases of both germany and Japan post WW2 is was almost a decade from the end of the war before either "worked out fine", and even Germany was divided until Reagan/Thatcher/ Pope

I won't argue that point, but even after 5 years, we were doing better then we are in Iraq. I really should read up on postwar Germany and Japan before sticking my neck out, but I seem to recall the population treating us better. We were not their liberators either, we flat kicked their butt.

re: #216 sattv4u2

Cliff Notes/ TED SPREAD for Dummies explanation, please

Sorry, I never know when I'm boring folks with technical explanations.

It's a good measure of how scared investors are in the market

TED is a contraction of T-bil and Euro Dollar. The more scared people are the more they flock to t-bill, buy t-bills causing the rate to drop, so the and the spread between the two factors widen.

The less scared people are the less they buy t-bills, buy other things like and the spread is lower. It also measures the willingness of banks to lend to each other

So, when the TED spread drops that is a good thing, although it is still elevated higher than is good.

re: #230 The Shadow Do

I sent a guy my ex-girlfreind, poor smuck was more than happy to take over the payments, well, he was till she moved in. ;)

OT: Hawks are giving the Celts a hand full but as we all know..Call me in the 4th quarter...The only sport known to man that nothing really matters till the 4th.. If the red sox drop 10 in the first inning or the Steelers score 50 in the first half everybody is changing channels..Not the NBA..
LOL

Anyone want to guess what the Press' reaction would be if some jackass whipped a shoe at Obama?

re: #207 So?

The earth is a beehive; we all enter by the same door but live in different cells.

/why not...

Why not?

Well, for one, bees don't live in cells. The store nectar and make honey in them, as well as protect their young with them, but they don't live in the cells.

re: #214 buzzsawmonkey

Where we went wrong in nation-building in the Middle East is that we did not completely crush the social structure and rebuild it from scratch, as we did with Germany and Japan in WWII.

And the reason we didn't go in prepared to remake the society from the ground up is that our wimpy leaders listened to the nay-sayers at home and tried to do things with a soft touch instead of a firm hand.

That is why the Department of Defense must go, and the old War Department be reinstated. The Defense Department has never won a war; you cannot succeed in any endeavor unless you know what business you are in.

i agree. we brought germany and japan to their knees and then delivered the terms for helping them back up. in iraq, we subdued them momentarily and then politely asked them to do things our way. this was a weak bad plan based on ridiculous new age thinking that moslems don't subscribe to. we basically invited the trouble that has followed.

re: #193 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just wondering ... the other day, someone (Thanos or Killian?) found a link to a news article about this reporter having been held captive for a couple of days by Iraqi bad dudes. He was released unharmed.

Just wondering ... what's the possibility that the guy is an ego-hound, and made up the story that he'd been kidnapped and held?

The shoe-throwing incident has a publicity-seeking reek to it. Hmmm.

I'm thinking it was Killian, I remember that as well.

re: #236 Geepers

Anyone want to guess what the Press' reaction would be if some jackass whipped a shoe at Obama?

Anger, indignation, calls for a public hanging and a media blitz to have the perp tried in a country that allows torture.

re: #218 Egfrow

Fair enough. There is a huge difference than feeling safe and feeling free. When someone sacrifices the last crumbs of Capitalism by supporting Socialist bailouts for the sake of Free markets, well frankly, to me it erases all the good and in the long term what are we going to be left with. Free market capitalism has done more to keep us safe than you can imagine. I still appreciate what Bush has done be he is to eager to lean left of center where it counts.

We are free, and that cannot be taken from us unless WE allow it. I am not trying to be nasty to you, I am just sick and tired of the nasty jokes about a good man, who has done a yeoman's job, under the most difficult and trying circumstances, a job none of can really even begin to comprehend, since none of us has been where he has. He has my undying thanks and respect.
Save the jokes for the one who deserves it, who made GWB's job an impossible hell, from day 1, Bill Clinton, who happily let the terrorist cancer grow unchecked, and the democrat controlled congress, who's job it is to safeguard the economy. They are the reason the President did what he had to do.

re: #233 3 wood

Sorry, I never know when I'm boring folks with technical explanations.

It's a good measure of how scared investors are in the market

TED is a contraction of T-bil and Euro Dollar. The more scared people are the more they flock to t-bill, buy t-bills causing the rate to drop, so the and the spread between the two factors widen.

The less scared people are the less they buy t-bills, buy other things like and the spread is lower. It also measures the willingness of banks to lend to each other

So, when the TED spread drops that is a good thing, although it is still elevated higher than is good.

got it,, thanks,,, and if you ever need a primer on Geosynchronous Orbit,,, satellite center of box ,,, inclined orbit,, faraday rotation,,, let me know!

re: #238 nyc redneck

i agree. we brought germany and japan to their knees and then delivered the terms for helping them back up. in iraq, we subdued them momentarily and then politely asked them to do things our way. this was a weak bad plan based on ridiculous new age thinking that moslems don't subscribe to. we basically invited the trouble that has followed.

and really, who exactly did we ask, to do what?

not that there was anybody there to ask, nor who would have agreed.

and yes, that was all a horrible mistake on our part, we should have found someone, propped him up, and made like he was responsible.

re: #236 Geepers

Anyone want to guess what the Press' reaction would be if some jackass whipped a shoe at Obama?

Immediate execution.

re: #242 sattv4u2

and if you ever need a primer on Geosynchronous Orbit,,, satellite center of box ,,, inclined orbit,, faraday rotation,,, let me know!

You will be the first one I ask.

re: #235 HoosierHoops

OT: Hawks are giving the Celts a hand full but as we all know..Call me in the 4th quarter...The only sport known to man that nothing really matters till the 4th.. If the red sox drop 10 in the first inning or the Steelers score 50 in the first half everybody is changing channels..Not the NBA..
LOL

Celts down by 1 at the half

re: #245 3 wood

You will be the first one I ask.

shit ,,, I didn;'t think you'd take me up on that ,, DAMN !

//

And if Shoebat doesn't like the Egyptian bag lady, there's always the standard Saturday night in Jeddah.

There are voices criticizing this "heroic act" in the Arab world but they are being called traitors and collaborators, and the media won't give any of them 10% of the attention they are giving to the shoe-thrower.
Al Jazeera had its 3 main headlines about this story and they published then a story about how they received more than 5000 comments and how some commentators didn't regard him as a hero or anything ! Al Jazeera was surprised.
I'm sad that the Arab world is not getting the deep irony here. He did what he did, survived it, and became a hero only because it was the US president. Had he done that during a press conference with ANY Arab leader (not only Saddam), he (and his family most likely) would have disappeared from the face of earth.
It's post-Saddam Iraq that made someone like him become a "hero".
He would have wished only for a quick death, if he had been arrested during Saddam time.

re: #211 3 wood

Holy cow, the TED spread dropped to 1.57, it was 2.18 just a couple weeks ago.

When you see it get down to 1.15 or so the banks will start lending fast and steady.

Ten year bond at 2.19%?

Does anybody want to borrow?

Is deflation for real?

This is all nutz.

re: #236 Geepers

Anyone want to guess what the Press' reaction would be if some jackass whipped a shoe at Obama?

re: #244 3 wood

Immediate execution.

naaahhh ,, Obama invites the guy into the Oval Office with no pre-conditions, then comes to the conclusion that the guy had so much animosity towards Bush and never got the chance to whip the shoe at him, he HAD to throw it at Obama symbolically.

Obama, being the understanding, kind, and benficent leader appoints the man head of the United States Olympic Committee!

Whatever floats her camel!

re: #241 CapeCoddah

We are free, and that cannot be taken from us unless WE allow it. I am not trying to be nasty to you, I am just sick and tired of the nasty jokes about a good man, who has done a yeoman's job, under the most difficult and trying circumstances, a job none of can really even begin to comprehend, since none of us has been where he has. He has my undying thanks and respect.
Save the jokes for the one who deserves it, who made GWB's job an impossible hell, from day 1, Bill Clinton, who happily let the terrorist cancer grow unchecked, and the democrat controlled congress, who's job it is to safeguard the economy. They are the reason the President did what he had to do.

Well said. President Bush needs to be defended. In the things that matter most he chose the 'hard, right solution' to the 'easy, wrong solution'. He is the Dark Knight.

"I would like to live in Iraq"

Would somebody be saying that 5 years ago... I think it speaks for itself :)

ploome,

Stop trying to stir up trouble.

re: #94 LGoPs

How 'bout the only Arab miltary victory...

It was not a victory. He missed both throws.
It was a "de-feet".

Obama and Eric Holder have another "Balgo" problem:

Holder omitted Blagojevich link from questionnaire

Before Eric Holder was President-elect Barack Obama's choice to be attorney general, he was Gov. Blagojevich's pick to sort out a mess involving Illinois' long-dormant casino license.

Blagojevich and Holder appeared together at a March 24, 2004, news conference to announce Holder's role as "special investigator to the Illinois Gaming Board" -- a post that was to pay Holder and his Washington, D.C. law firm up to $300,000.

Holder, however, omitted that event from his 47-page response to a Senate Judiciary Committee questionnaire made public this week -- an oversight he plans to correct after a Chicago Sun-Times inquiry, Obama's transition team indicated late Tuesday.

"Eric Holder has given hundreds of press interviews," Obama transition spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said in a statement. "He did his best to report them all to the committee, but as he noted in the questionnaire itself, some were undoubtedly missed in the effort to reconstruct a list of them."

Holder signed the questionnaire on Sunday -- five days after Blagojevich's arrest for allegedly putting Obama's U.S. Senate seat up for sale. The Judiciary Committee asked him to provide lists and "copies of transcripts or tape recordings of all speeches or talks delivered by you" and "all interviews you have given to newspapers, magazines or other publications."

Eric Holder has himself a headache.

Anybody holding any Sears stock?

Director dumps nearly half of Sears holdings

A director of retail giant Sears Holdings Corp. has dumped $51.8 million in Sears stock this week – almost half of his holding, according to regulatory filings.

Hedge-fund operator Richard C. Perry, a Sears director since September 2005, disclosed in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing Tuesday that he had sold 530,000 Sears shares Monday at a blended price of $41.09 apiece, for a total of $21.8 million. Wednesday, Perry told the SEC in a separate filing that he had sold an additional 767,000 Sears shares at $39.08 each, for a total of $30 million.

One of those things that makes you go hmmm.

re: #243 itellu3times

and really, who exactly did we ask, to do what?

not that there was anybody there to ask, nor who would have agreed.

and yes, that was all a horrible mistake on our part, we should have found someone, propped him up, and made like he was responsible.

we should have subdued them like we did germany and japan and not wasted time putting on gloves to handle korans and boot coverings when going in mosques. that would have saved a lot of trouble. and set the tone for rebuilding.

re: #238 nyc redneck

i agree. we brought germany and japan to their knees and then delivered the terms for helping them back up. in iraq, we subdued them momentarily and then politely asked them to do things our way. this was a weak bad plan based on ridiculous new age thinking that moslems don't subscribe to. we basically invited the trouble that has followed.

agreed. Iraq at least used to be a somewhat cosmopolitan society (for the middle east muslim places anyway). That is something it has in common with the old Germany and Japan...people were used to being somewhat civilized before the insanity. Afghanistan? nope. It's one reason I'm not optimistic about Afghanistan and don't think it's likely to be worth our effort in the long run.

re: #6 legalpad

I seem to remember something in Wayne's World 2 about what we could do with his own shoes.

This scene.

Fertility Rates Worldwide press the play button to see the changing trend.
The big exceptions are W. Bank, Gaza, and Yemen... go figure

re: #42 HelloDare

Looks like a chess piece.

re: #214 buzzsawmonkey

Where we went wrong in nation-building in the Middle East is that we did not completely crush the social structure and rebuild it from scratch, as we did with Germany and Japan in WWII.

And the reason we didn't go in prepared to remake the society from the ground up is that our wimpy leaders listened to the nay-sayers at home and tried to do things with a soft touch instead of a firm hand.

That is why the Department of Defense must go, and the old War Department be reinstated. The Defense Department has never won a war; you cannot succeed in any endeavor unless you know what business you are in.

The situation in WW 2 was completely different in that in Germany and Japan we were dealing with two powerful nations that were both technologically advanced (in the case of Germany more so than we were, at least in the beginning) and fanatically committed to winning the war. We absolutely could not take half steps and did not. So yeah, they were beaten flat, have changed their ways, and we still have troops stationed in each country three generations later.

In Iraq you had a dictator and his ruling clique who were oppressing about 2/3ds of the population. When they actually stood and fought our troops WW2 style, we kicked the shit out of them. Many of them expected that outcome before we even got there, and they planned and executed a guerrilla resistance movement which was much more difficult to defeat, which is a primary reason pacifying the region has taken so long.

Shoe - thrower is one Iraqi moonbat compared to millions who are glad we made the investment in them and hope we don't pull up and leave in the middle of the night as Dear Leader has continually promised he would do.

The good news is at least the MSM is showing some Iraq footage. They just seem to love looping the shoe-thrower clip over and over again.

re: #53 RirghtSideOfTheFence

It isn't just the middle east. The whole world is a bunch of ungrateful bastards

This fact is well understood by those who've worn the uniform of our country, especially us Nam vets.

re: #264 legalpad

This scene.

Or, if you only have 11 seconds

re: #238 nyc redneck

i agree. we brought germany and japan to their knees and then delivered the terms for helping them back up. in iraq, we subdued them momentarily and then politely asked them to do things our way. this was a weak bad plan based on ridiculous new age thinking that moslems don't subscribe to. we basically invited the trouble that has followed.

OK, did a little homework on post war Japan, and we did do things differently. Other then writing their constitution to our liking we muffled any anti US or racial comments in the press, and basically took charge for a few years.
Of course, some of that might not make us look like liberators in Iraq, but we're not treated like one anyway.