"Kerfuffle" is a great word

and this discussion slips into how religion should treat gays in......

Watch Obama dance as his gay overlords squeal and whine.

For the complete experience of anti religious moonbattery, also check out the comments for the death notice of Paul Weyrich.

re: #1 buzzsawmonkey

He could have just gone with Rev. Wright.

I'm no fan of Rick Warren. I think he has peddled his brand of Christianity into fame and fortune in an effort to pad his own pockets. I don't know what Obama was trying to do with this but he sure pissed off the kooks who elected him.

Kooks get pissed off. Can't avoid it. It is their reason for being.

Why did Warren accept? I imagine there are a few of his fans who are disappointed, too.

re: #7 Jetpilot1101

I'm no fan of Rick Warren. I think he has peddled his brand of Christianity into fame and fortune in an effort to pad his own pockets. I don't know what Obama was trying to do with this but he sure pissed off the kooks who elected him.

Unlike Jeremiah Wright

/

re: #10 DeafDog

Unlike Jeremiah Wright

/

Nope, just haven't gotten to him yet.

re: #9 MandyManners

Why did Warren accept?

Ego?

I would like to hear a list of acceptable candidates from the kooks.

Obama is still sitting in the Cone of Silence and will not comment.

Yummm!
Kerfuffle roasting on an open fire!
Jackfrost nipping.......

Didn't Biden say that they are against gay marriage in the debate?

WTF? Why do gays support That One&#8482 again?

Now that the African-American racism issue is nearly obliterated by the election of an actual African American, the victimology mongers push Homosexuals into the void.

re: #13 Bumr50

I would like to hear a list of acceptable candidates from the kooks.

Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton...shall I go on?

Change You Can Believe In™.

The president-elect said a "wide range of viewpoints" will be presented during the inaugural ceremonies.

Does that mean bill ayers will be speaking?

re: #19 Macker

Change You Can Believe In™.

of as the Homosexual community heard it: "Change You Can Believe In.......bitch!"

re: #18 Jetpilot1101

Maybe Ayers, very seriously. The rest of your list, I think, would also be viewed as unacceptable IMHO.

re: #14 lifeofthemind

Is there enough room in it ?
With Biden living in there and all?

But Obama told reporters in Chicago that America needs to “come together,” even when there’s disagreement on social issues. “That dialogue is part of what my campaign is all about,” he said

Someone should tell him he's not supposed to be campaigning anymore, he already won.

Maybe its just a way to keep the crowd down.

re: #12 foxtrotter

Ego?

Ding ding ding ding....... We have a winner!

re: #22 Bumr50

Maybe Ayers, very seriously. The rest of your list, I think, would also be viewed as unacceptable IMHO.

Wow, I thought I was being funny.

re: #24 fish

Someone should tell him he's not supposed to be campaigning anymore, he already won.

Only just the once. He's already working on his re-election.

Michelle la belle WAB has a relative who is a Rabbi with a Black Jewish congregation in Chicago. That would get a rise out of the rubes.

Can I throw my shoe at The One during the ceremony?

I'm beginning to think that maybe the Obama's Presidency will not be Shangri-La.

He may screw up the country but not enough to satisfy the Leftist loons.

Lose Lose

re: #27 Jetpilot1101

You were! Sorry so serious.
I just can't think of anyone acceptable.

So, hows that Hope and Change working out so far?

But Obama told reporters in Chicago that America needs to “come together,” even when there’s disagreement on social issues. “

Screw that. I won't be making smoochie with a gun controlling commie any time soon, regardless of his pandering.

re: #30 faraway

Can Paypal be used for BAIL!?

re: #35 reloadingisnotahobby

Can Paypal be used for BAIL!?

BailPal?

re: #30 faraway

Can I throw my shoe at The One during the ceremony?

You'd be ventilated. If you try it at home your TV will drop a dime on you.

re: #6 WrathofG-d

He could have just gone with Rev. Wright.

Father Phelmger!

re: #30 faraway

Can I throw my shoe at The One during the ceremony?

There will be no show throwing after "The One" has been elevated to the throne. We will be loved in the world once again. Remember?

re: #36 Creeping Eruption

Now there ya GO!
Business opportunity!

re: #40 reloadingisnotahobby

Now there ya GO!
Business opportunity!

My thoughts exactly.

re: #35 reloadingisnotahobby

Can Paypal be used for BAIL!?

Or should that be PayBAIL?

re: #38 jcm

That would be SO funny and fitting!

re: #38 jcm

Father Phelmger!

Father Phlegm? Wasn't he with that Zen band, the Phlegmatics?

Not including the gay point of view - I guess it's o.k. for democrats to pander to conservative Christians - it's just not o.k. for conservatives to pander to conservative Christians.

daily double standard check.

I have to wonder if 0bama's not privately laughing that he's managed to fool so many in the victimhood lobby.

re: #2 DeafDog

"Kerfuffle" is a great word

A light flaky waffle.

Not to fear.

Upon hearing of the anger caused by Rick Warren's appointment, Obama's transition team has decided to move the inauguration speech to the Y.M.C.A.

/

re: #13 Bumr50

RuPaul

re: #49 bulwrk

RuPaul

Ron Paul

Oh looky, looky, the circus is in town.

Well OK, maybe not a real circus. But what do you call a bunch of clowns and a big-assed freak show?

Time to do the Kerfuffle shuffle, Obama.

re: #36 Creeping Eruption

BailPal?

Not sure but there is something called JPay to send money to your loved ones in prison... Seriously... It's advertised in NYC buses...

re: #51 MJBrutus

Oh looky, looky, the circus is in town.

Well OK, maybe not a real circus. But what do you call a bunch of clowns and a big-assed freak show?

The View?

re: #50 lifeofthemind

Paul Reubens.

re: #51 MJBrutus

Oh looky, looky, the circus is in town.

Well OK, maybe not a real circus. But what do you call a bunch of clowns and a big-assed freak show?

Satuday night in San Francisco?

re: #53 tfc3rid

Not sure but there is something called JPay to send money to your loved ones in prison... Seriously... It's advertised in NYC buses...

There motto is "Trust Us?"

re: #53 tfc3rid

Not sure but there is something called JPay to send money to your loved ones in prison... Seriously... It's advertised in NYC buses...

Do you have to Jpay to Jdate? (Sorry Jewish-themed joke in case you not a MOT)

re: #51 MJBrutus

Oh looky, looky, the circus is in town.

Well OK, maybe not a real circus. But what do you call a bunch of clowns and a big-assed freak show?

Congress?

I think that this is absolutely great. The left is crazy and insane

Synonyms: aberrant, absurd, bananas, batty, crazed, cuckoo*, daft, delirious, demented, deranged, distracted, foolhardy, foolish, frantic, frenetic, frenzied, illogical, imprudent, invalid, irrational, kooky, loony*, ludicrous, lunatic, mental, non compos mentis, nonsensical, nutty*, off one’s rocker, of unsound mind, out of one’s mind, preposterous, psychotic, rabid, raving, senseless, unbalanced, unhinged, unreasonable, unsafe, unsound, unstable, wacky*

re: #59 Creeping Eruption

Do you have to Jpay to Jdate? (Sorry Jewish-themed joke in case you not a MOT)

When I first saw the ad I thought it was for JDate... Then I read more and was like, "Are you serious?"

re: #12 foxtrotter

Ego?

That's my guess, too.

re: #46 Sharmuta

Surely they're used to it by now.

re: #61 Steve

Zany...you missed ZANY!

the democrat party has set up this grand illusion that they are the party that is pro-gay.

Paul Lynde

re: #57 x-wing

Satuday night in San Francisco?

I much prefer Friday Night in San Francisco

re: #66 FrogMarch

"The stage is set..."

Maybe Obama can get around this by simply referring to Mr. Warren by a common nick name.

re: #64 Bumr50

Surely they're used to it by now.

You'd think they'd figure out democrats don't really want to help them. It's called job security for leftists.

re: #12 foxtrotter

Ego?

Warren is a moderate Evangelical, that disagrees with Obama on many issues. Having said that, he invited Obama to a conference on the world's aid issue., so he seems wiling to work on issues of common interest. No different then any pro life conservative working with a pro choice economic expert to fix the economy. Better to not lose the good in search of the perfect.

Can't they just leave The One alone ...he did throw them a bone and invited the LGBT Marching Bank an invitation to march in the parade ...

Rick Warren will now be allowed on the list of approved reading by The One's followers ...you think Rick doesn't know that ...

The best part of this is that dailyidiots heads are exploding ...again ...

Your tears are delicious dailyidiots ..back at ya ...

No worries.

He's Super-O!

leave it up to Homosexuals to get excited about a Rick.

~thank you, I'll be here all afternoon, tip your wait staff.

re: #68 Creeping Eruption

I much prefer Friday Night in San Francisco

Excellent, upding

re: #65 reloadingisnotahobby

Zany...you missed ZANY!

What can I say. So I missed one for crying out loud. Give me a break I am celebrating my 56 birthday. Sheesh can't a guy get a little respect around here.

No seriously, {Lizards}

re: #76 lifeofthemind

re: #76 lifeofthemind

My pleasure.

re: #68 Creeping Eruption

I much prefer Friday Night in San Francisco

Nice.

That's not the 0bama we knew.

/Excuse me- that cracks me up.

re: #77 Steve

56?
A very good year....when I was born.......
Happy birthday!

come together aka bend over and take some tolerance

re: #24 fish

Someone should tell him he's not supposed to be campaigning anymore, he already won.

You overlook the obvious. People want to keep on doing what they know how to do. Obama knows how to campaign, he just has no experience actually governing.

So he keeps on campaigning.

re: #74 Racer X

No worries.

He's Super-O!

Isn't that a zero?

/damn those Myans

The democrat party will take your vote, but once they are in - the only loyalties they deliver are the loyalties with the big $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

I'm willing to take the President-elect at his word on this. It's hard because so much else that he does seems loaded with political calculation. Isn't it possible that when he went to Saddlebrook, Obama had a chance to talk to Rev. Warren and got to like him personally?

The Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay rights organization, said Warren's opposition to gay marriage is a sign of intolerance.

Yesterday someone here said that the 90% of gays don't care what the gay rights groups have to say (or words to that effect). Also, I believe this person also said he was gay. I tend to believe him as it seems many, if not most, groups have been taken over by the more extreme elements. How many people does CAIR actually represent? How many women does NOW represent? The problem comes when these groups are afforded undue influence in our squeaky-wheel-gets-the-grease world.

re: #2 DeafDog

"Kerfuffle" is a great word

They are great with butter, powdered sugar and a touch of syrup.

you would think that a guy with the name Dick Warren would go over well in the homosexual community.

re: #80 Sharmuta

That's not the 0bama we knew.

/Excuse me- that cracks me up.

lol.
so you are easily amused.

The president-elect said a "wide range of viewpoints" will be presented during the inaugural ceremonies.

...........We're all just holding our breath waiting to hear and see this
"wide range of viewpoints"
/

What if Rick prayed the following:

Heavenly Father, forgive us for backing the killing of millions of babies, for stealing away American liberty by taxing us to death, for pushing rulings from the bench rather than the voting booth, for doing whatever it takes to sanctify gay marriage, for caring more about "safer" sex than moral purity, for making art grotesque, for putting animal rights and Going Green above basic human dignity, for skewing our moral compass so much that we don't know right from wrong anymore. Amen.

he would never be invited to another 0 event.
(ripped off from another commentator)

re: #9 MandyManners

Why did Warren accept? I imagine there are a few of his fans who are disappointed, too.

We have no idea what back room deals have, are and will go down.

re: #81 reloadingisnotahobby

Thanks, my oldest is taking me out for alligator pizza today.

re: #31 Opinionated

I'm beginning to think that maybe the Obama's Presidency will not be Shangri-La.

I'm sure everyone already knows that I think most gay people (and all "gay activists") are insane, so I'm not going to comment on the thread. Instead, I'll just use the mention of Shangri-La as an excuse to link this somewhat jaw-dropping musical number from the 1973 version of Lost Horizon. (BTW, that's Michael York lip-synching and riding the bamboo merry-go-round about halfway through.)

P.S. "Riding the bamboo merry-go-round" is not a slang euphemism for some kind of kinky sexual practice -- Michael York and everyone else keeps their clothes on, even though it was the '70s.

re: #88 Max Darkside

They are great with butter, powdered sugar and a touch of syrup.

I like mine with a touch of creme angalise

re: #77 Steve

Happy Birthday Steve!

re: #92 notutopia

The president-elect said a "wide range of viewpoints" will be presented during the inaugural ceremonies............We're all just holding our breath waiting to hear and see this "wide range of viewpoints"

I hope that doesn't involve someone bending over.

re: #95 Steve
Cool!
Can have the "wrapping" For some boots!?

What? No angry leftist claims of a major violation of Church & State?

re: #86 dhg4

I doubt it. Obama entire life seems to be one of opportunism.

Reverend Phillips of Westboro Baptist Church would be ideal for the occasion.

re: #99 Max Darkside

LOL !

re: #87 solomonpanting

Yesterday someone here said that the 90% of gays don't care what the gay rights groups have to say (or words to that effect). Also, I believe this person also said he was gay. I tend to believe him as it seems many, if not most, groups have been taken over by the more extreme elements. How many people does CAIR actually represent? How many women does NOW represent? The problem comes when these groups are afforded undue influence in our squeaky-wheel-gets-the-grease world.

Every "group" (I loathe group identy) has a small percentage that makes all the noise, and is the public "face" of that group.

re: #30 faraway

Can I throw my shoe at The One during the ceremony?

Since shoes don't have the same message here that they do in the Middle East, I'd hold up a roll of T.P. instead.

Is Rick Warren inviting his good friend President Bashar al-Assad to the ceremony?

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

re: #61 Steve

I think that this is absolutely great. The left is crazy and insane

Synonyms: aberrant, absurd, bananas, batty, crazed, cuckoo*, daft, delirious, demented, deranged, distracted, foolhardy, foolish, frantic, frenetic, frenzied, illogical, imprudent, invalid, irrational, kooky, loony*, ludicrous, lunatic, mental, non compos mentis, nonsensical, nutty*, off one’s rocker, of unsound mind, out of one’s mind, preposterous, psychotic, rabid, raving, senseless, unbalanced, unhinged, unreasonable, unsafe, unsound, unstable, wacky*

I always liked "barking mad"...

re: #91 reine.de.tout

I just found the flipping around of an 0bama catch phrase amusing.

Has the Iranian pip squeak been invited to the inauguration? Anyone know?

re: #24 fish

Someone should tell him he's not supposed to be campaigning anymore, he already won.

Bubba is STILL campaigning. I get the feeling "The One" will not stop either.

re: #108 experiencedtraveller

I always liked "barking mad"...

We could change that to "marking bad" ....

re: #107 MJ

Is Rick Warren inviting his good friend President Bashar al-Assad to the ceremony?

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

READ

Obama also said he’s known to be a “fierce advocate for equality” ...

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fierce   /fɪərs/ [feers]

–adjective, fierc⋅er, fierc⋅est.

1. menacingly wild, savage, or hostile: fierce animals; a fierce look.
2. violent in force, intensity, etc.: fierce winds.
3. furiously eager or intense: fierce competition.
4. Informal. extremely bad or severe: a fierce cold.
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The hyperbole politicians use is so silly.

Like all narcissists Obama can't stand the thought that someone is unhappy with him. So first he pretends to appease the evangelicals because they have been so vocal about the pending abortion executive orders, and now he will attempt to assuage the ruffled feathers of the gay community.

Obama will continue to appease, appease, appease....not based on core beliefs or principles, but rather out of fear of disapproval. We have hired a beta-male, metro-sexual who consorts with thugs and bullies so that he can play the good cop to their bad cop.

So, thanks to the latest voodoo rate cut, I'm thinking of converting as much liquid chas as I can to Euros. Thoughts?

re: #110 maddogg

Has the Iranian pip squeak been invited to the inauguration? Anyone know?

He'll be holding the Quran....

///////////////

OT- Hilda Solis BO's pick for for Labor Sec.

Progressive. Green. Labor?

re: #115 DistantThunder

Obama's attempting to pander to every group out there known to man. Unfortunately for Obama, that usually backfires.

re: #96 Throbert McGee

That might be the real source of Osama bin Laden's war with the West.

re: #116 Lizard by the Bay

So, thanks to the latest voodoo rate cut, I'm thinking of converting as much liquid chas as I can to Euros. Thoughts?

Gold?

I am watching the NY Yankees press thing to introduce both CC Sabathia and Burnett. Hum it seems CC wanted to come here all along? Who knew?

re: #113 WrathofG-d

READ

Agreed.
Ignore the source for the moment.

Will Dwayne LaPierre be speaking?
..............................Thought not!

re: #119 Honorary Yooper

NOT the NRA!

Hilda Solis looks like someone I'm no gonna' like.

Hey c'mon y'all - Obama really can't do ANYTHING that won't piss off someone in his base!
He doth promise too much - to too many, too fast.

re: #92 notutopia

The president-elect said a "wide range of viewpoints" will be presented during the inaugural ceremonies.

...........We're all just holding our breath waiting to hear and see this
"wide range of viewpoints"
/

Oh the viewpoints will be presented, then anything not sanctioned by the One will then be ridiculed, dismissed and forgotten.

re: #94 Bobibutu

We have no idea what back room deals have, are and will go down.

MJ in No. 107 has an interesting link.

Yesterday on local radio, I heard somebody referred to as, "an informed Obama voter." If I could have called in, I would have pointed out that the phrase is a logical impossibility. Any time the O was specific on the campaign trail, it was about a promise he could not possibly keep. And he was rarely specific enough to inform about otherwise. The press never turned over rock #1 to find out and inform any of us of who this man is.

Bottom line, there is no such thing as an, "informed Obama voter."

re: #12 foxtrotter

Ego?

The most basic resource of any religion.

re: #96 Throbert McGee
"and everyone else keeps their clothes on, even though it was the '70s."
ROTFL! Had to upding you for that alone!

re: #127 taxfreekiller

Now, if you were the big "O" and you were getting all the questions about the goings on in Chicago, land of pay to play. You wanted to change the subject and had tried several times and had failed. You know your base, you know the press, you know your elected. Poke the base in the eye,
piss off the msm hacks.

Subject changed.

The crime back in Chicago goes it alone.

like that, he is a lawyer

Rub raw the wounds of race and gender and sexual orientation - Saul Alinsky style

At first I was astounded at this announcement that a "money grubbing" pastor will do the invocation for a hard leftist pro-abortionist.

I have never met Rick Warren but from his interviews and skimming "The Purpose Driven Life", I believe he sticks pretty close to Christian beliefs. That being said, he's not going to the cesspool of DC to preach to the choir but to pray for America and its foolish aristocracy.

Johnny Cash was criticized for playing in prisons- his response was akin to the sinners need saving not the "righteous"

Gay leaders furious with Obama

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Hell has no fury like a woman scorned......oops well you get it

re: #131 MJBrutus

I can't wait until his swearing in. Accorrding to Pat Cadell,there are a whole lot of people that still don't know his middle name.

/ought to be interesting.

re: #70 WrathofG-d

Maybe Obama can get around this by simply referring to Mr. Warren by a common nick name.

re: #75 WrathofG-d

leave it up to Homosexuals to get excited about a Rick.

~thank you, I'll be here all afternoon, tip your wait staff.

re: #90 WrathofG-d

you would think that a guy with the name Dick Warren would go over well in the homosexual community.

I don't get it.

Peter King wants senate seat ...he is mad about Caroline ...good for him ...

Breaking: Obama to replace Rahm Emanuel with Iraqi Shoe-Throwing Guy

///ok, maybe it's a spoof

re: #129 fish

Oh the viewpoints will be presented, then anything not sanctioned by the One will then be ridiculed, dismissed and forgotten.

UNDERBUS !

re: #135 badger1970

At first I was astounded at this announcement that a "money grubbing" pastor will do the invocation for a hard leftist pro-abortionist.

I have never met Rick Warren but from his interviews and skimming "The Purpose Driven Life", I believe he sticks pretty close to Christian beliefs. That being said, he's not going to the cesspool of DC to preach to the choir but to pray for America and its foolish aristocracy.

Johnny Cash was criticized for playing in prisons- his response was akin to the sinners need saving not the "righteous"

Christ accepted an invitation to dine with a known "sinner" and was critisized by his disciples. He said - This is exactly what my mission is. (paraphrased)

Hilda Solis.

Green ugh.

Immigration ugh.

Sorry. Sometimes I forget that this is a West Coast based site and many of you obviously know who Congresswoman Solis is.

This issue is indicative of the fact that our entire culture has gone into hyper-sensitive mode. Everybody's offended by everybody...sheesh.
What contributes to this is the loss of perpective brought about by the magnifying effect of the media. The smallest splinter group, when given nationwide coverage, is amplified far beyond their numbers would merit. Just my thoughts......

re: #140 Kenneth

I don't know. It sounds like a fine way to "reach out" to another constituent group, after all.

re: #131 MJBrutus

Does that count Obama himself?

re: #144 LGoPs

That offends me !
//..But I forgive you!

Anger is a sign of self-betrayal: they know that they are acting in an intolerant way.

re: #144 LGoPs

This issue is indicative of the fact that our entire culture has gone into hyper-sensitive mode. Everybody's offended by everybody...sheesh.
What contributes to this is the loss of perpective brought about by the magnifying effect of the media. The smallest splinter group, when given nationwide coverage, is amplified far beyond their numbers would merit. Just my thoughts......

Your just being intentionally offensive!
//

I'm about as far as you can get from being an Obama defender but at this point his only hope is to invite Chance the Gardener to conduct the ceremony........even that would probably annoy Peter Sellers haters.....
/

re: #138 Throbert McGee

They are "dick" jokes.

re: #140 Kenneth

Breaking: Obama to replace Rahm Emanuel with Iraqi Shoe-Throwing Guy

///ok, maybe it's a spoof

Why replace Emanuel....he has proven his worth already by throwing shoes at Israel....

With the Warren invite, many moderate evangelicals are thinking right about now that maybe Obama isn't so bad after all. What will they think on January 21st when Obama's first cascade of Executive Orders includes mandatory federal funding of abortions, prohibitions on parental notification requirements, and further 1st Amendment restrictions on abortion protesters.

re: #150 LGoPs

I'm about as far as you can get from being an Obama defender but at this point his only hope is to invite Chance the Gardener to conduct the ceremony........even that would probably annoy Peter Sellers haters.....
/

The obvious choice was "Rev." Wright or "Father" Phlieger.

re: #130 MandyManners

MJ in No. 107 has an interesting link.

Yes - these punks can no longer be satisfied with fleecing their flocks al la Oral Roberts - they have to poke their noses into the international community as well.

Well connected. Money talks.

Thanks Mandy.

re: #153 ronaldusmagnus

With the Warren invite, many moderate evangelicals are thinking right about now that maybe Obama isn't so bad after all. What will they think on January 21st when Obama's first cascade of Executive Orders includes mandatory federal funding of abortions, prohibitions on parental notification requirements, and further 1st Amendment restrictions on abortion protesters.

It's part of Obama's philosophy of no fast moves. Like all (political) predators, he is grooming his prey.

The Obama Admin.. is going to hit the ground Jan21 in third gear and 4000 RPM!
I think his Excutive ink pen will run dry twice before
summer of 09!

re: #147 reloadingisnotahobby

That offends me !
//..But I forgive you!

Hell, I offend myself. as a matter of fact I'm thinking of bringing charges against myself. Wonder if I could find a lawyer to take the case. It could set precedent and open up vast new vistas in jurisprudence. It would become the ultimate self licking ice cream cone........
/

re: #144 LGoPs

This issue is indicative of the fact that our entire culture has gone into hyper-sensitive mode. Everybody's offended by everybody...sheesh.
What contributes to this is the loss of perpective brought about by the magnifying effect of the media. The smallest splinter group, when given nationwide coverage, is amplified far beyond their numbers would merit. Just my thoughts......

Hey, I happen to have a splinter in my finger. I find your comment extremely offensive to people throughout the world who have splinters in their fingers. I don't care if you are talking pine pine, redwood, mahogany, or spruce splinters, we are all united in our call to stop injustices like this.

/seriously your comment is right on, especially the part about these fringe groups being amplified by the media

re: #146 Bumr50

Does that count Obama himself?

It counts Obama especially :-)

He doesn't know who he'll be each day when he wakes up.

re: #158 LGoPs
The obvious answer is defend yourself....Yes!
LOL

I'm just happy to see this as more proof that 0bama has not found another church to attend yet.
He probably won't for his four years.
He'll just pander here or pander there as need be.
But there must be dozens of ''gay'' churches out here in So Cal.
I've got plenty of gay neighbors who all claim to be ''churchgoers,'' yet not one of them attends with any other of them!
(And for all of this going it doesn't seem to sink in that they should act like Christians the other 167 hours of the week, as they fight and scream and mooch and scam all their other waking hours.)

re: #159 turn
Not to forget Obama's attitude towards all those Purple Finger Iraqi's.

So even the messiuh isn't everything to everyone. Whodathunk.

re: #13 Bumr50

I would like to hear a list of acceptable candidates from the kooks.

A pregnant, gay, transexual Muslim.

re: #143 Bumr50

Hilda Solis.

Green ugh.

Immigration ugh.

Sorry. Sometimes I forget that this is a West Coast based site and many of you obviously know who Congresswoman Solis is.

Hilda Solis ...her voting record ...don't expect any across the aisle from her ...

[Link: projects.washingtonpost.com...]

I love watching people who built their entire career on identity politics getting eaten by identity politics.

Hell’s Angels — Lithuanian Style:

U.S. and Afghan soldiers in Zabul Province give high marks to the Lithuanian Special Forces, who like to ride these captured Taliban motorbikes to sneak up on, and chase Taliban fighters. The “LithSof” are on their way to becoming living legends: Both Afghans and Americans report that the Taliban are afraid of the Lithuanians. Stories about them are filled with dangerous escapades and humor.

Americans say that the Lithuanians are sort of a weaponized version of Borat, who think nothing of sauntering around a base in nothing but flip-flops and underwear. “They look like mountain men. They never shave, sometimes don’t bathe, and often roll out the gate wearing nothing but body armor and weapons. Not even a t-shirt,” an American soldier told me. The Lithuanians may be a little bit nuts, but the Americans love to have them around because Lithuanians love to fight, and when you need backup, you can count on them. That contrasts starkly with many of the NATO “partners.” Maybe when your country spends almost a half-century with the Soviet boot on its neck, its first generation of free soldiers know what freedom is worth — and that you sometimes have to fight for it.

with bonus video tribute

Interesting to know a tiny country like Lithuania is kicking more Taliban & AQ butt that the Fwench.

re: #165 Spiritualized

Good luck with that!
No, really!

re: #156 DistantThunder

It's part of Obama's philosophy of no fast moves. Like all (political) predators, he is grooming his prey.

And prepping to eat the elephant ... one bite at a time.

Or if you prefer bologna ... one thin slice at a time - we'll hardly notice.

re: #157 reloadingisnotahobby

Looking at this Solis person, I think she's the "leftest" person he's surrounded himself with to date. And with the UAW facing (something?,maybe?) big labor is going to play a significant role in an Obama administration. Especially with big, unidentified infrastructure projects in the works.
She's greener than Kermit.

re: #169 reloadingisnotahobby

Good luck with that!
No, really!

I am sure 'it' is in the works of being groomed for politics in some underground chamber of the left...
/

re: #115 DistantThunder

Like all narcissists Obama can't stand the thought that someone is unhappy with him. So first he pretends to appease the evangelicals because they have been so vocal about the pending abortion executive orders, and now he will attempt to assuage the ruffled feathers of the gay community.

Obama will continue to appease, appease, appease....not based on core beliefs or principles, but rather out of fear of disapproval. We have hired a beta-male, metro-sexual who consorts with thugs and bullies so that he can play the good cop to their bad cop.

Let him appease, appease, appease, and then find out that some differences are irreconcilable. The more he tries to make everybody happy, the less he'll be able to screw up the country by making the Progressive Left happy. (Though I am certain that in the end, he'll find a way to do the latter.)

re: #122 Nevergiveup

I am watching the NY Yankees press thing to introduce both CC Sabathia and Burnett. Hum it seems CC wanted to come here all along? Who knew?

He has to say that... K-Rod at least was honest and said he wanted to be a Mets regardless of the $$.

re: #163 realwest

Not to forget Obama's attitude towards all those Purple Finger Iraqi's.

He probably considers them part of a fringe group.

re: #107 MJ

If Rick Warren wants to put this controversy to rest, he ought to release all the recordings he made in Syria. What does he have to hide?
Instead, Rick Warren continues to try to change the subject. He tries to demean those who are simply holding him accountable for his own words. He tries to have it both ways – attacking his critics even while apologizing to them.

I hate to say it, but this behavior is now bordering on sociopathic.

Yeah..he'll probably get invited.
This guy is just as faux as Rev. Wright...

re: #174 tfc3rid

He has to say that... K-Rod at least was honest and said he wanted to be a Mets regardless of the $$.

But you did give him the most money?

re: #165 Spiritualized

A pregnant, gay, transexual Muslim.

A differently-abled, aboriginal, pregnant, black, gay, transsexual, alternatively spirited, Muslim community organizer.

re: #177 Nevergiveup

But you did give him the most money?

Same as the Angels offered...

I just wish ''the 0ne'' hadn't said that America needs to "come together, in this context.
And why does he refer to this time as part of his, "campaign?"
Even officially, he's now the ''president-elect."
The campaign is over.

re: #179 tfc3rid

Same as the Angels offered...

I didn't think the Angels actually ever made him an official offer?

re: #109 Sharmuta

I just found the flipping around of an 0bama catch phrase amusing.

Yes, of course, I find it amusing too.
I was just pullin' your leg, a little.
:-)

Uh Oh!
The Capitol Building is on fire!

re: #171 Bumr50

Looking at this Solis person, I think she's the "leftest" person he's surrounded himself with to date. And with the UAW facing (something?,maybe?) big labor is going to play a significant role in an Obama administration. Especially with big, unidentified infrastructure projects in the works.
She's greener than Kermit.

She sounds like a sworn enemy of organized labor. Weird choice for Labor Secretary.

re: #183 mean Gene

Uh Oh!
The Capitol Building is on fire!

Are the british in town?

re: #183 mean Gene

Uh Oh!
The Capitol Building is on fire!

Whose?

re: #183 mean Gene

Uh Oh!
The Capitol Building is on fire!

?!

Fire at the US Capitol building.

That's what happens when you force smokers into hiding.

The DC one.

I just heard that on FNC... One of the House office buildings?

re: #143 Bumr50

Is this Solis lady any relation to: Patti Solis Doyle?

re: #183 mean Gene

Uh Oh!
The Capitol Building is on fire!

Sandy Berger in there? Undies and socks not good enough anymore?
/

re: #178 Mambo Bananapatch
A "DAAPBGTASMCO"?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Rep. Solis Tapped to Be Labor Secretary, Sources Say
Barack Obama has picked California Rep. Hilda Solis to be labor secretary, according to officials.

re: #162 mean Gene

But there must be dozens of ''gay'' churches out here in So Cal.
I've got plenty of gay neighbors who all claim to be ''churchgoers,'' yet not one of them attends with any other of them!

Gay people don't need to go to a "gay" church any more than black people need to go to a "black" church. My church is not one you'd consider either "black" or "gay", yet we've members that fall into both (and many other) categories.

re: #189 mean Gene
Anyone know the whereabouts of Billy Ayers right now?

I guess they were hoping Obama was lying when said he didn't support gay marriage, either. Both parties, with the exceptions of a few really extreme people on either side, basically agree that Marriage is between a man and a woman. It's not a mix and match buffet.

re: #184 stuiec

Unless they build bicycles!
No fan of Unions here at all!

No fire in Capital....Steam pipe burst

Steam Pipe Burst

The Longworth House had a steam pipe break, it was not really a fire, just looked like one.

We're all living in a semi-scripted reality show, aren't we?

Obama chose Hilda Solis because she is hispanic ...she wants to raise the wages on H2A program labor and make it easier for illegals not in the programs to work in this country ...this is just another payment to La Raza and other hispanic groups ...just another political payback ...

Slippery slope for Obama on this one with the Unions ...

re: #191 MJBrutus

Is this Solis lady any relation to: Patti Solis Doyle?

I have been trying to find that out myself ...

re: #202 Who Watches the Watchmen?

We're all living in a semi-scripted reality show, aren't we?

It would so appear, at times. Definitely a first draft, roughed out.

re: #180 mean Gene

I just wish ''the 0ne'' hadn't said that America needs to "come together, in this context.
And why does he refer to this time as part of his, "campaign?"
Even officially, he's now the ''president-elect."
The campaign is over.

Perpetual revolution = perpetual campaign.

re: #107 MJ

Is Rick Warren inviting his good friend President Bashar al-Assad to the ceremony?

[Link: www.wnd.com...]

Been here for a few minutes and already learned something I didn't know. Are you kidding me, "Warren, author of "The Purpose-Driven Life," says when he visited Syria recently he saw Christians and Jews in a near-routine existence, enjoying some privileges even Muslims don't receive within a governmental structure that formally allows for faith in Christ and adherence to the Torah." Is this guy really that stupid or did the Syrians do their typically excellent job of deceiving foreign dignitaries (think Nancy Pelosi)

re: #188 Bumr50

Fire at the US Capitol building.

Allow me to be the first to say:

"We don't need no water,
Let the [disco whistle] burn!"

re: #156 DistantThunder

It's part of Obama's philosophy of no fast moves. Like all (political) predators, he is grooming his prey.

No pro choice guy is ever going to make the pro lifers happy, but in a back hand way, your point is correct. You do need to sneak up on those that disagree with. Picking Warren is a outreach to moderate Evangelicals even though they'll never agree on all issues, maybe they can work on some.
For example, there is no question that the local churches do a better outreach to the poor then the government, maybe work on that. At least it gives those of faith a seat at the table even if they'll never agree on everything.
Statements like the gays, the left or right are ticked off about this or that are too general. As was mentioned, not all gays are even pro gay marriage, not all on the left approve of unconditional abortion.

re: #191 MJBrutus

Is this Solis lady any relation to: Patti Solis Doyle?

I don't think they are related ...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #207 turn

Been here for a few minutes and already learned something I didn't know. Are you kidding me, "Warren, author of "The Purpose-Driven Life," says when he visited Syria recently he saw Christians and Jews in a near-routine existence, enjoying some privileges even Muslims don't receive within a governmental structure that formally allows for faith in Christ and adherence to the Torah." Is this guy really that stupid or did the Syrians do their typically excellent job of deceiving foreign dignitaries (think Nancy Pelosi)

I wonder if he visited Hama?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Kind of a side topic but building on what I said earlier about everybody being offended by everybody else - I think a major contributor to that phenomenon is the emphasis on diversity...and the oft repeated statement that diversity is our strength. I respectfully and loudly disagree.....our strength is our unity, the things we have in common - and focusing on diversity...on the things that make us different is the antithesis of unity. We've come to the point where we mindlessly repeat the mantra of diversity without ever questioning it or reflecting on what it means. Diversity is a given....that's what makes us Americans for crying out loud. This is one of the most salient points about the greatness of America - the fact that it doesn't matter where you come from or what you look like - as long as you accept and embrace the idea of what America is, you're an American. Not many cultures can make that claim. Yet we've allowed one of the essential foundations of America to be turned into a concept that ultimately is dividing and balkanizing us. Sheesh.....stop the focus on emphasizing what makes us different and focus on what makes us united.........
Sorry for the rant and the off topic. I'll go sit down and be quiet now.....

re: #183 mean Gene

Uh Oh!
The Capitol Building is on fire!

Good. Its Romanesque architecture reflects an aggressive archetype characterized by the oppression of the poor and minorities.

/moonbat mode off.

re: #185 Nevergiveup

Are the british in town?

HA!...how irreverent...

We kept telling gays and blacks that 0bama was a framer.
He built a nice rhetorical outline and let his listeners each fill in the picture as his/her own desire led them to.
But people didn't believe us.
So, bow they see it is true.
I liked this part: But Obama told reporters in Chicago that

America needs to "come together," even when there's disagreement on social issues. "That dialogue is part of what my campaign is all about,

" he said.
Apparently gays, like Muslims, will not even eat with suchlike persons:

"By inviting Rick Warren to your inauguration, you have tarnished the view that gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Americans have a place at your table

," the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay rights organization wrote in a letter to 0bama.

Charles, stick with your gut: this is absolutely pandering. I would be insulted if I were an evangelical. From Wright to Warren at the drop of a hate? Lukewarm believers (in Obama, or God, or Obama as God) will be the only ones out there gullible enough to believe this is "reaching-out". Does anyone know what Warren's excuse for being used like this is? Is he pretending he's being something other than self-aggrandizing?

Also, thank you for the phrase "evangelical social conservatives" and not some BS "social fundamentalists" or whatever. They are social conservatives of an evangelical stripe; that's not a redundancy!

re: #212 LGoPs

Good, but I would also add that the majority of citizens of the USA now think that the world revolves around them, personally. And that history began the day they were born. It is classic Narcissism.

re: #202 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Fearfully predictable at times....

re: #216 samsoncc

Also, thank you for the phrase "evangelical social conservatives" and not some BS "social fundamentalists" or whatever. They are social conservatives of an evangelical stripe; that's not a redundancy!

You're right. Not all evangelicals are social conservatives. Not all social conservatives are evangelicals.

I'll bet Obama isn't all that concerned about this. . .besides for the obvious reason that he already won the election.

He's smart enough to realize that no politician can appoint anyone these days, without offending some portion of their constituency. When a conservative picks someone, there are always cries of "that person isn't conservative enough", or from liberals "that person is too conservative". . .and conversely for liberal appointees.

It's especially true for the Democratic party, which has long tried to hold together blocs of voters with hugely disparate views on a variety of policies. Pretty much anyone Obama picks for anything is going to piss someone off. If I were him, I'd be tempted to say as much.

re: #209 avanti

No pro choice guy is ever going to make the pro lifers happy, but in a back hand way, your point is correct. You do need to sneak up on those that disagree with. Picking Warren is a outreach to moderate Evangelicals even though they'll never agree on all issues, maybe they can work on some.
For example, there is no question that the local churches do a better outreach to the poor then the government, maybe work on that. At least it gives those of faith a seat at the table even if they'll never agree on everything.
Statements like the gays, the left or right are ticked off about this or that are too general. As was mentioned, not all gays are even pro gay marriage, not all on the left approve of unconditional abortion.

Avanti ...I have in the past couple of days been posting with you about your mission to come here and "bring us all together" under the Big O tent ...I respect your right to vote for whatever candidate you choose but I have one more question for you ...

You said in a post to me yesterday that this election was the first time you ever got involved in politics because of Obama ...then I learned you are 66 ...may I ask why no other candidate in your life or no other events in history made you even want to be involved in the past ...

You say you read his books and believed him ...are you saying no other candidate ever inspired you at all ...

I am gonna drop it after this because I know you and I will never be on the same page about Obama but if you could answer me that one question ...

re: #211 Nevergiveup

Well, I learned another thing already. Syria squelched a Muslim Brotherhood uprising, which surprised me that they did such a good thing.

re: #13 Bumr50

Oh, you didn't get the memo? Jimmy Carter occupied choice 1-5, but unfortunately, he's tied up in the Middle East trying to get Lovey-Dovey with Hamass (and no, that's NOT a typo! Look out! Here comes the UN!)

The nutroots are tearing their hair out over this one. I'm not a big fan of Warren, but their hysteria is amusing nonetheless.

re: #217 rawmuse

Good, but I would also add that the majority of citizens of the USA now think that the world revolves around them, personally. And that history began the day they were born. It is classic Narcissism.

I agree and I think one of the characteristics of Narcissism is an inability to self-reflect or to be introspective....very healthy traits in my mind. The absense of it can be very frustrating.......

re: #212 LGoPs

Not only did I upding ya, I pressed the little heart which I rarely do. Excellent point, celebrate unity not diversity. The American way!

re: #226 turn

Not only did I upding ya, I pressed the little heart which I rarely do. Excellent point, celebrate unity not diversity. The American way!

We need some sort of slogan or term to describe this revolutionary way of thinking about America....something to represent the coming together and molding into one....

oh wait I have a suggestion, tell me if you like it: melting pot.

re: #212 LGoPs

The commonly accepted theory nowadays seems to be that diversity absolutely must clash. The word itself comes from the Latin diversus meaning "seperated, different, or diverse". The whole concept of America is that we are a melting pot- diverse, but diverse as one. We may be black, Hispanic, Pan-Asian, or white, but we're all Americans. Where we get into trouble is when we start assigning our loyalties to race-related issues over the good of the country.

From The Iowahawk:

SantaCorp Pleads Case For Bailout

Kringle warned that failure to approve the plan would have dire global economic consequences.

Pure quality entertainment!

re: #207 turn

Been here for a few minutes and already learned something I didn't know. Are you kidding me, "Warren, author of "The Purpose-Driven Life," says when he visited Syria recently he saw Christians and Jews in a near-routine existence, enjoying some privileges even Muslims don't receive within a governmental structure that formally allows for faith in Christ and adherence to the Torah." Is this guy really that stupid or did the Syrians do their typically excellent job of deceiving foreign dignitaries (think Nancy Pelosi)

If you go there with the premise that it's all Israel's fault, then you look for evidence to support your view...which the Syrians are happy to supply.

Mike Wallace of 60 minutes did the same thing many years ago.

"In 1975 and 1984, Wallace filed reports on Syria that minimized the oppression of Syrian Jews and obscured the dictatorial nature of Hafez al-Assad’s regime."
[Link: www.camera.org...]

re: #213 experiencedtraveller

Good. Its Romanesque architecture reflects an aggressive archetype characterized by the oppression of the poor and minorities.

/moonbat mode off.

Where did you learn to think like a moonbat so well? Was it moonbat U? Seriously, sounds like something some liberal college professor would lecture on. Very clever.

re: #228 ClosetConservative

The commonly accepted theory nowadays seems to be that diversity absolutely must clash. The word itself comes from the Latin diversus meaning "seperated, different, or diverse". The whole concept of America is that we are a melting pot- diverse, but diverse as one. We may be black, Hispanic, Pan-Asian, or white, but we're all Americans. Where we get into trouble is when we start assigning our loyalties to race-related issues over the good of the country.

Exactly ...I hate hypens ...when did this country start doing that anyway ...what was the first hypen-group

re: #201 mean Gene

The Longworth House had a steam pipe break, it was not really a fire, just looked like one.

Typical of the news media, too stupid to know the difference between smoke and steam. Hint: Smoke usually has an odor and doesn't dissipate rapidly like steam.

re: #210 JacksonTn

I don't doubt you, but what did you see on WikiPedia to make you think so?

re: #227 WrathofG-d

I think you are going to have to distiguish a bit here. Is that a pot, pan, or skillet?
/

re: #234 MJBrutus

I don't doubt you, but what did you see on WikiPedia to make you think so?

Nothing specific but that she was raised in Chicago but I guess that does not mean she doesn't have extended family in CA ...I will try to find out ...

re: #230 MJ

Thanks, I'm going to read that later.

re: #232 JacksonTn

Exactly ...I hate hypens ...when did this country start doing that anyway ...what was the first hypen-group

So you're a No-hyphen-American!
//

re: #216 samsoncc

Charles, stick with your gut: this is absolutely pandering. I would be insulted if I were an evangelical. From Wright to Warren at the drop of a hate? Lukewarm believers (in Obama, or God, or Obama as God) will be the only ones out there gullible enough to believe this is "reaching-out". Does anyone know what Warren's excuse for being used like this is? Is he pretending he's being something other than self-aggrandizing?

Also, thank you for the phrase "evangelical social conservatives" and not some BS "social fundamentalists" or whatever. They are social conservatives of an evangelical stripe; that's not a redundancy!

I would comment, but the topic is above my pay grade. . .

I'm not a big fan of Rick Warren... but I think it's absolutely hilarious to hear moonbats calling him and James Dobson "extremists" or "radicals" for their views on abortion and gay marriage. Last I heard, they were both espousing views on those issues that are held by 40-70% of Americans.

Fred Phelps is an extremist. People who bomb abortion clinics are extremists. Rick Warren is a fairly mainstream guy with views on the more conservative end of the mainstream spectrum. And Andrew Sullivan's got his panties all in a bunch over it.

re: #231 turn

Thanks. Sometimes I hear voices in my head. ;)

Saddleback's FAQs are creationist. According to Saddleback doctrine, Christianity depends on the one man / one woman origin story of Genesis:

Question: Why is it not OK for evolution to be part of God’s plan? I don’t understand what the problem is: couldn’t God have used the process of evolution as the way that he created the earth?

Answer: When I was a new believer in Christ, I had some very strong feelings about the issue of evolution. Much as you have expressed, I believed that evolution and the account of the Bible about creation could exist along side of each other very well. I just didn't see what the big argument was all about. I had some friends who had been studying the Bible much longer than I had who saw it differently. But they didn't push me or argue with me, they simply challenged me to take some time to look into the facts and study the issues carefully. I'll always appreciate them for that, because this was an issue that I had to really think through. Eventually, I came to the conclusion, through my study of the Bible and science, that the two positions of evolution and creation just could not fit together. There are some real problems with the idea that God created through evolution.

I would encourage you to take some time to study this issue. I found that, although I'd understood the science side of the equation, I needed to take some more time to read what the Bible really had to say about this subject. Not having taken the time to really read the Bible, I was very ignorant about what it had to say. Let me give you one example. I discovered that the problem of sin, as addressed in the Bible, was much more serious than I had previously thought. When I realized that the world was clearly a perfect place as God created it, and that this perfection was ruined by the sinful choice of Adam and Eve, it really started me thinking. Did the Bible teach evolution or did it teach the creation of a first man and woman named Adam and Eve? If we evolved, which human being would have made the choice that brought sin into this world? If Adam and Eve were just allegorical pictures, why did the New Testament place some much importance upon them as responsible and real individuals? Since God clearly says that it is our sin that brought death into our world, how could there have been death for billions of years before the arrival of the first man who sinned on the earth? As I asked questions about this issue and studied what the Bible had to say, I found it to be one of the greatest times of learning in my life as a new believer. My prayer is that you will have this same experience!

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Gen. 1:1

"Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made." John 1:3

If you want to study this further...
Here's a web site that you might want to check out: [Link: www.probe.org...] (One article that is especially thought provoking discusses "Darwin's Black Box").

"Reaching out" is what you do to principled opponents, like "social conservative evangelicals" who aren't shills for Behe.

re: #128 realwest

Hey c'mon y'all - Obama really can't do ANYTHING that won't piss off someone in his base!
He doth promise too much - to too many, too fast.

And this will be his undoing. I truly believe the only thing that will bring Obama down without riots and cries of racism is for him to piss off the folks that voted for him. That shouldn't be too hard considering he practically promised everyone a pony, a handout, and undying love and devotion from the rest of the world.

re: #232 JacksonTn

Exactly ...I hate hypens ...when did this country start doing that anyway ...what was the first hypen-group

I'm not sure but I became aware of it with the African-American appelation. I'm going to start calling myself a No Other Country Would Have Me - American
/

Mmm...

So Obama associates with a man who says God damn America, who is also a racist... that's okay...

He associates with a man who attacked the pentago. again, that's okay.

He associates with scattered crooks in Ill. Again, okay.

But then he associates with a guy who opposes gay marriage and the gay left goes ballistic.

Just sayin'.

re: #245 A.W.

Mmm...

So Obama associates with a man who says God damn America, who is also a racist... that's okay...

He associates with a man who attacked the pentago. again, that's okay.

He associates with scattered crooks in Ill. Again, okay.

But then he associates with a guy who opposes gay marriage and the gay left goes ballistic.

Just sayin'.

None of that is okay; but neither is his pandering to the obscurantist wing of the Christian right.

"Just sayin'."

Just a quick note. I didn't get a chance or even have the time to read all the comments above.

All I will say is this:

This is simply the fact of life that a party that dedicates itself to identity politics, social division, and opposition gets.

The Democrats have done nothing but pander to divisive group identity and opposition to Republicans so much that they have nothing left to use a foundation for any kind of coherent party principles or platform.

You can't govern on this kind of stuff. You can only hope to govern well on a solid set of principles. Look what happened when the Republicans abandoned their core principles. The Democrats did at one time have a set of core principles (not sure if I even remember what they were now haha...).

The Democrats made their bed, let them sleep in it.

This is just the tip of the iceberg of the kind of things they will have to deal with for the next 4 years at least. I for one will be glad to see them go down in flames trying to please all of their different groups while trying to govern.

(for some reason I am speaking today in cheesy metaphors...must be the lack of coffee).

re: #180 mean Gene

That is your first mistake. The campaign is never over.

re: #240 LotharBot

I'm not a big fan of Rick Warren... but I think it's absolutely hilarious to hear moonbats calling him and James Dobson "extremists" or "radicals" for their views on abortion and gay marriage. Last I heard, they were both espousing views on those issues that are held by 40-70% of Americans.

Fred Phelps is an extremist. People who bomb abortion clinics are extremists. Rick Warren is a fairly mainstream guy with views on the more conservative end of the mainstream spectrum. And Andrew Sullivan's got his panties all in a bunch over it.

On the definition of "extremism" every lizard should read this. Which is to say that you are 100% correct.

re: #232 JacksonTn

Exactly ...I hate hypens ...when did this country start doing that anyway ...what was the first hypen-group

I believe the first reference I heard of it was when Teddy Roosevelt criticized it. I don't have the quote in front of me, but he basically describes the whole idea of hyphenating oneself apart as social and cultural suicide.

Gotta run. Maybe someone else has the quote or I will look for it later...

re: #217 rawmuse

Are you saying that history won't end when I finally die? Prove it.

:-P

As far as I know, Obama is against gay marriage.

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

Or, at least, he was against it, before he was for it.

Obama doesn't like gay people. He hasn't really been all that slick on hiding it either.

During the campaign he was very matter of fact about not being for gay marriage and he turned down every interview request by any gay publication (for the most part - I can't be certain that he didn't do an interview here or there).

I'm not sure why the Gay community is so shocked.

re: #247 Radar

Your point is right on. Obama stands for "everything" and will probably end up doing nothing while alienating everyone.

His ego will be his downfall.

re: #221 JacksonTn

You say you read his books and believed him ...are you saying no other candidate ever inspired you at all ...

I am gonna drop it after this because I know you and I will never be on the same page about Obama but if you could answer me that one question ...

Good question. I've supported other candidates, notably Reagan for example, but never felt connected before. I got sucked in by e-mails, the neighborhood meeting and the like and was impressed with the folks I met. I'm 66 but worked with mostly hopeful younger folks, although there were others from teenagers to folks in there 80's.
Like LGF, we became a family, with all the disagreements involved, but unlike most family's, a very diverse group.
I do not agree with every opinion BO has, no more then I did with Reagan, but Obama just is a great motivator, time will tell if that translates to a good POTUS.

I always thought it was "kerfluffle." I guess common usage has established "kerfuffle" as the popular favorite.

re: #251 Iron Fist

Are you saying that history won't end when I finally die? Prove it.

:-P

It's unwise to challenge anyone to prove something that can only be shown after you die.

re: #227 WrathofG-d

We need some sort of slogan or term to describe this revolutionary way of thinking about America....something to represent the coming together and molding into one....

oh wait I have a suggestion, tell me if you like it: melting pot.

I have another suggestion: E pluribus unum.

re: #258 stuiec

It's unwise to challenge anyone to prove something that can only be shown after you die.

Awesome. up-ding.

re: #245 A.W.

Excellent point. Kinda let's you know where their priorities are, dosen't it?

The president-elect said a "wide range of viewpoints" will be presented during the inaugural ceremonies.

Wide range of viewpoints such that Obama is the Messiah, G-d, World Ruler, or an incredibly intelligent guy, just to name a few?

No matter who Our Messiah-King had chosen to give the invocation there would be people who find fault with it. All He is doing is showing how much of a lie is the mantra of His being The Uniter.

re: #258 stuiec

As to that, if he can get my head off my shoulders, he's welcome to it.

re: #183 mean Gene

Uh Oh!
The Capitol Building is on fire!

Whatcha mean uh oh? Just means Reid and Pelosi can't screw up with more legislation for a time.

Maybe they shouldn't have kept the b.o. smelling public from the politicians after all.