The Troofers have no shame.
They will not see an apology as relevant to anything in the Universe.

I just don't understand why they cared then, or why they care now.

I wish she would do the Bristol Stomp on some of these troofers.

re: #2 Creeping Eruption

I just don't understand why they cared then, or why they care now.

Hate doesn't need a reason.

I blame Bush. [someone had to say it]

re: #2 Creeping Eruption

I just don't understand why they cared then, or why they care now.

Because it makes our side look bad. If it were in the Obama camp, it would be the second coming.

re: #5 Golem Akbar

I blame Bush. [someone had to say it]

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

re: #2 Creeping Eruption

I just don't understand why they cared then, or why they care now.

Hatred simply MUST have a target.
Compulsive is an understatement.

Thank you Charles for keeping LGF a loony-free site. You are the inheritor of William F. Buckley, who strove to root out the nuts from the Right.

Their explanation will now be that Trig was born premature.

i think it was sarah palin's choice to have her child.
people w/ downs syndrome are living healthy productive lives.
some living into their 60's and 70's today.
many are employed and taking fine care of themselves.
i think these people attacking sarah and her daughter are really attacking the choice that was made to have the baby.
fck them.

re: #8 Wyatt Earp

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

Neocons!

re: #6 ploome hineni

..when is the wedding?

Let's not put the horse before the cart.

Bristol's boyfriends' mom just got busted on drug charges.

I hope the delivery goes well, and that Bristol and baby are fine, healthy and happy.

re: #7 FightingBack

Because it makes our side look bad. If it were in the Obama camp, it would be the second coming.

Bad? How? What could possibly be bad about a baby?

I pray all is well with Bristol and her baby. I'm sure Governor Palin is excited as all get out to see her first grandbaby!

Here's to hoping we have a healthy 4 year old grandchild visiting the White House in 2012.

FoxNews.com and adn.com have the story.

re: #10 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Thank you Charles for keeping LGF a loony-free site.

Speak for yourself, bub.

Now, apologize to my cats!

re: #14 Spare O'Lake

Let's not put the horse before the cart.

What does John Kerry have to do with this?

I particularly like this comment:

You guys are a little simple, this proves nothing. Trig was Bristol's baby, but Palin claimed it was her's, then realizing that they wouldn't be able to cover it up forever, Palin got pregnant, hid it during the campaign, and now is giving birth to the cover-up baby which they'll claim is Bristol's to cover-up the fact that Trig was really Bristol's baby.

I'm a little winded after typing that last sentence, I need to go lie down.
Kazinski %P% 12.18.08 - 11:12 pm %P% #

I'm assuming that was satire, but a couple of posters seem to think it might be the troof.

using or dealing? re: #15 Alaska Kim

Sad thing is that the truth really doesn't matter to so many people. What will remain in their minds is a vague echo of the original accusation and that's what will set their disposition toward Palin in the future - and based on these types of scurrilous attacks, that disposition will be negative.
The original attack is all that matters. That this is done deliberately and with malice is a testament to the vileness of modern liberals. And then they call us mean-spirited...bastards.

There is nothing more precious than a new baby. I'm sorry that Bristol's new mother-in-law was just arrested on drug charges.

Thanks for the link, Charles!

These people are certifiable. I post about something totally unrelated and they come over and attack LGF.

Andrew Sullivan has some 'splainin' to do. Or at least some apologizing.

Troothers Nirthers and stell doesn't melt.

I'm so confused.

maybe cooking, distributing, and possession. not sure yet.

timing casts serious doubt on Andrew Sullivan’s obsession

sanity

re: #17 Creeping Eruption

Bad? How? What could possibly be bad about a baby?

It's not a baby, it's a punishment.
/

A baby at Christmas- what a wonderful blessing for the Palin family.

Everytime I see the word Nirther written out it makes me think of some really weird walrus like alien. Why I have no idea.

Sorry for the quick OT, but...

With economy in shambles, Congress gets a raise

A crumbling economy, more than 2 million constituents who have lost their jobs this year, and congressional demands of CEOs to work for free did not convince lawmakers to freeze their own pay.

Instead, they will get a $4,700 pay increase, amounting to an additional $2.5 million that taxpayers will spend on congressional salaries, and watchdog groups are not happy about it.

In the beginning days of 1789, Congress was paid only $6 a day, which would be about $75 daily by modern standards. But by 1965 members were receiving $30,000 a year, which is the modern equivalent of about $195,000.

Currently the average lawmaker makes $169,300 a year, with leadership making slightly more. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) makes $217,400, while the minority and majority leaders in the House and Senate make $188,100.

This fucking pisses me off! Their salaries should match their performance!

Whither Andrew Sullivan? He's been claiming that Sarah covered for Bristol's birthing of Trig. This would be a repudiation of that pretty soundly, but he's going to stand by it.

What about his employers at The Atlantic or anyone else that picks up his scribblings? Don't they care or realize the damage he's done to their reputations by peddling this crap? Guess not. They've got a conspiracy to fulfill.

re: #25 DistantThunder

There is nothing more precious than a new baby. I'm sorry that Bristol's new mother-in-law was just arrested on drug charges.

I don't think they got married. Future MIL?

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

Troothers Nirthers and stell doesn't melt.

I'm so confused.

(wake up Wally)

Troothers and Nirthers and steel doesn't melt.

I'm so confused.

Many prayers for the Palin family that all goes well tomorrow.

JWF Post About Trig Palin Brings Out the Nirthers

Just to clarify the nomenclature... "Nirther" = Palin baby conspiracists, or Obama nirth cerifikit conspiracists, or both?

re: #29 Alaska Kim
ah, meth huh?

Note that there are a few people who are making it their business to go around to other blogs and post comments attacking me. Having totally lost the debate on honest grounds, they now post bitter sniping comments to get even.

Moonbats are not only a leftist affliction.

The odds of having a Down's syndrome baby when the mother is a teenager are very, very low. It is far more likely statistically that Gov. Palin had Trig.

re: #40 apachegunner

I'm not sure.

re: #17 Creeping Eruption

Bad? How? What could possibly be bad about a baby?

"But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby."
  — Barack H. Obama, 30 March 2008

re: #20 Occasional Reader

Speak for yourself, bub.

Now, apologize to my cats!

I vote that the current CEO be replaced & that my cat is pretty.
Futurama

re: #41 Charles

Note that there are a few people who are making it their business to go around to other blogs and post comments attacking me. Having totally lost the debate on honest grounds, they now post bitter sniping comments to get even.

Moonbats are not only a leftist affliction.

What a miserable existence these moonbats have -- spending all their free time running around in circles with their arms flailing screaming rabid lies about someone else. It's almost comical.

Did they catch the arsonist that torched the Wasilla church?

Or have the truthers declared that snowmobile fuel doesn't burn at temperatues high enough to melt Christians?

re: #39 Occasional Reader

Just to clarify the nomenclature... "Nirther" = Palin baby conspiracists, or Obama nirth cerifikit conspiracists, or both?

Heh. It could work for either batch of nuts, couldn't it?

re: #41 Charles

Note that there are a few people who are making it their business to go around to other blogs and post comments attacking me. Having totally lost the debate on honest grounds, they now post bitter sniping comments to get even.

Moonbats are not only a leftist affliction.

You know you are successful when you get attacked by nut-cases on both sides. Kudos, Charles.

re: #15 Alaska Kim

Bristol's boyfriends' mom just got busted on drug charges.

Charming. Although, considering the long, dark winter and the isolation in many parts of the state, it's probably a wonder the whole state isn't on drugs.

re: #34 jorline

Sorry for the quick OT, but...

With economy in shambles, Congress gets a raise

This fucking pisses me off! Their salaries should matre: #41 Charles

ch their performance!

Congress is too big to fail.
/

re: #41 Charles

Moonbats are not only a leftist affliction.

I would say that they are suffering from a deficit of character more than an excess of moonbattery

"casting serious doubts"

What would convince them short of watching her give birth? They should be ashamed of themselves that THIS is their big conspiracy against Palin. I can't even discuss this with anyone without laughing as soon as I hear the words come out of my mouth.

re: #48 Charles

Heh. It could work for either batch of nuts, couldn't it?

A dearth of nirth.

re: #22 jwb7605

I saw that too. Same thought, good satire or lunatic fringe?

re: #48 Charles

Heh. It could work for either batch of nuts, couldn't it?

Why can't we just call them all idiots? That use to work in the past. Or is that to un-PC. Let's come up with a new word for stupid.

re: #50 doppelganglander

there are many more things to do here in the wintertime than drugs.

re: #41 Charles

Note that there are a few people who are making it their business to go around to other blogs and post comments attacking me. Having totally lost the debate on honest grounds, they now post bitter sniping comments to get even.

Moonbats are not only a leftist affliction.

Isn't "Moonbat" a left wing loony, while "Wingnut" is a right wing loony?

re: #48 Charles

Heh. It could work for either batch of nuts, couldn't it?

Straight question... I thought you only used the term for the nirth cert crowd... just wondering.

re: #57 Alaska Kim

there are many more things to do here in the wintertime than drugs.

/Like make them .. and sell them . . .

re: #57 Alaska Kim

there are many more things to do here in the wintertime than drugs.

Which kind of brings us full circle on the topic of babies!

re: #55 formercorpsman

I saw that too. Same thought, good satire or lunatic fringe?

Kind of scary if you truly wonder.
(Meaning it scared me.)

All your nirth are belong to us

re: #56 Walter L. Newton

Why can't we just call them all idiots? That use to work in the past. Or is that to un-PC. Let's come up with a new word for stupid.

I've always been fond of "rectal myopic".

Charles,
(And in the comments for his post, Nirthers are attacking me for refusing to join in with their loony conspiracy theories.)
I would take this a badge of honor. Absent any rational discussion, they quickly fall to ad hominem attacks, which actually validates your positions. As others have said, thanks for minimizing the nonsense in the comments area.

I dinged Jamie up on his original post and do so again. This theory is on the order of 9/11 being caused by Jews. I think deranged thinking is now accepted in the Democratic Party.

re: #59 Occasional Reader

Straight question... I thought you only used the term for the nirth cert crowd... just wondering.

I did intend it to refer to the certifikit crazies -- those are the ones who showed up in JWF's comments.

Well Mr. Johnson, I think if you posted a thread declaring the moon was not made of green cheese you would likely set off some sort of meltdown resulting in a few bannings and a rash of attacks among the stalker blogs.

re: #41 Charles

Note that there are a few people who are making it their business to go around to other blogs and post comments attacking me. Having totally lost the debate on honest grounds, they now post bitter sniping comments to get even.

Moonbats are not only a leftist affliction.

I've noticed that. They even go so far as to make their own blogs whereby they can "safely" attack us here at LGF. It's also amazing how much Trooferism and Nirtherism they have at said blogs.

re: #57 Alaska Kim

there are many more things to do here in the wintertime than drugs.

But don't most of them involve wearing three layers of thermal underwear and being outdoors?

/just kidding, but there's a reason I live in Georgia.

re: #34 jorline

Sorry for the quick OT, but...

With economy in shambles, Congress gets a raise

This fucking pisses me off! Their salaries should match their performance!

On the long list of things currently provoking my outrage, this is pretty low. It's a 2.8% nominal increase; doesn't even match inflation, in fact not even close.

re: #69 Honorary Yooper

I've noticed that. They even go so far as to make their own blogs whereby they can "safely" attack us here at LGF. It's also amazing how much Trooferism and Nirtherism they have at said blogs.

And fascist apologia.

It's promising to be "one of those days".
I just left the thread where somebody posted that they counted a vote for Franken from the primary (Franken seems to be garnering some sort of landslide).

Now this.

Which follows the Auto Industry bail out.

re: #67 Charles

I did intend it to refer to the certifikit crazies -- those are the ones who showed up in JWF's comments.

Ah. Thanks.

re: #70 doppelganglander

yeah, it's deer season!

re: #62 jwb7605

You will notice, I actually responded to someone there.

As I get older, and mature (perhaps I am fooling myself) I find it futile to flame war from a keyboard.

However, one of the things I like to do is goad people into showing their cards. Post simple question, etc.

It never gets dull.

re: #42 DistantThunder I keep saying the SAME DAMN THING! She knew this baby was affected before he was born. Therefore, she must have had genetic testing done (especially since she was over 40). NO ONE would have genetic testing done on the pregnant teen age daughter just because of her age.

re: #41 Charles

Don't let it bother you - You are the sane one. I have to deal with the same thing with my nutty inlaws. I've even been banned from my bro-in-law's agw-troofer web site. But I'm still polite to them and I will still buy them Holiday gifth certifikitz.

re: #72 Sharmuta

And fascist apologia.

Yep, and at the same freaking blogs. It's buy one, get two free.

BUBBA SHEIK-ING THE MONEY TREE

Arkansas good ol' boy Bill Clinton turned the ancient lands of Arabia into his personal ATM over the past decade, raking in tens of millions of dollars worth of donations to his private foundation, records disclosed by the former president yesterday show.

re: #77 UberInfidel67

I keep saying the SAME DAMN THING! She knew this baby was affected before he was born. Therefore, she must have had genetic testing done (especially since she was over 40). NO ONE would have genetic testing done on the pregnant teen age daughter just because of her age.

unless they are from Arkansas or Yemen

re: #57 Alaska Kim

there are many more things to do here in the wintertime than drugs.

Alaska?

Are there any crackheads in Alaska?

/Puffy Daddy Diddy Pee-Pee or Something Like That, greatest political genius of our time

re: #71 Occasional Reader

On the long list of things currently provoking my outrage, this is pretty low. It's a 2.8% nominal increase; doesn't even match inflation, in fact not even close.

Well, it fucking more than any raise I've received in the last year, which is none, and none expected in the near future.

Which is ok with me, since I work for a non-profit, and moenyy is always tight.

But, it's MY money that is helping pay for that raise. My contribution may be pennies, but it's the principle.

Oh, sorry, I forgot, principle doesn't matter a twit anymore.

Sorry.

re: #71 Occasional Reader

On the long list of things currently provoking my outrage, this is pretty low. It's a 2.8% nominal increase; doesn't even match inflation, in fact not even close.

LOL, if their salaries matched their performance, they would be paying US every week!

Lileks comments on twitter (Franken/Coleman recount) get more interesting.

re: #41 Charles

Moonbats are not only a leftist affliction.

Shouldn't we have a separate name for fruitcakes on our side? Could "Nirther" be a generic term?

Everything is not a GD conspiracy... Man, some people have to accept things as they are... Jesus...

What is it with Andrew Sullivan and vaginas anyway?

A few years back he was all in a tizzy over the abuse of prisoners at Gitmo. The particular incident that really upset him was smearing fake menstrual blood on the captives to humiliate them. Sully found that just too, too horrible. And now he's obsessed over whose vagina a particular baby came out of.

He's got a real issue there.

Ron Paul

/

re: #76 formercorpsman

You will notice, I actually responded to someone there.

As I get older, and mature (perhaps I am fooling myself) I find it futile to flame war from a keyboard.

However, one of the things I like to do is goad people into showing their cards. Post simple question, etc.

It never gets dull.

Rabble Rouser!

Alex, what is your take on it?

re: #85 Golem Akbar

Lileks comments on twitter (Franken/Coleman recount) get more interesting.

It looks like that smug asswad Frankenstein might just steal that election...how can this happen in this day and age?

Blagojevich to step down at 2pm?

re: #91 Desert Dog

It looks like that smug asswad Frankenstein might just steal that election...how can this happen in this day and age?

It's over... He's got it made... He's in the getaway car about to cross the Mexican border...

re: #83 Walter L. Newton

Well, it fucking more than any raise I've received in the last year

Run for Congress.

re: #90 jwb7605

Even better, is to start searching the names they use, and see what is attached out there in the orbits.

Needs
Immediate
Restraint
Thorazine
Haldol
Electrocolvulsive Therapy
Restoril

re: #91 Desert Dog

It looks like that smug asswad Frankenstein might just steal that election...how can this happen in this day and age?

Simple.
Conservatives are required to fill in the entire oval.
Liberals are not even expected to "stay between the lines".

It's a self-esteem thing.

Lunch

re: #71 Occasional Reader

On the long list of things currently provoking my outrage, this is pretty low. It's a 2.8% nominal increase; doesn't even match inflation, in fact not even close.

I second Walter on this one. State employees in Georgia got 0% and the cost of our benefits went up. I can live with that given our budget circumstance and being a citizen as well as an employee of the state, but it doesn't sit well to watch our professional plutocrats give themselves raises in rocky times. (On a side note my colleagues and I have saved the state multiple times our agency budget including salaries in process improvements we have facilitated accross state agencies).

So what has congress done for us lately?

re: #96 Shug

sweet

re: #91 Desert Dog

It looks like that smug asswad Frankenstein might just steal that election...how can this happen in this day and age?

All I can add is that it's not over, by any means. Staying tuned...

re: #88 Kenneth

What is it with Andrew Sullivan and vaginas anyway?

A few years back he was all in a tizzy over the abuse of prisoners at Gitmo. The particular incident that really upset him was smearing fake menstrual blood on the captives to humiliate them. Sully found that just too, too horrible. And now he's obsessed over whose vagina a particular baby came out of.

He's got a real issue there.

The left is obsessed with genetalia and excretion of bodily fluids.

re: #94 Occasional Reader

Run for Congress.

I don't hang around with rapists.

re: #91 Desert Dog

It looks like that smug asswad Frankenstein might just steal that election...how can this happen in this day and age?

Hey, you remember the last time a Democrat "won" an election, but after each recount iteration the Republican gained more votes until he/she was declared the victor?

Neither do I.

re: #99 DaddyG

but it doesn't sit well to watch our professional plutocrats give themselves raises in rocky times

Look, I'm no fan of this Congress, but a 2.8% nominal raise still leaves them with a real salary decrease. So, again, lots of bigger fish to fry, IMHO.

Glory to the Revolution!

The counter revolutionaries are now running away in disarray! The People's Revolution cannot be stopped!

The heroic canvasing board continues to see the will of the people by throwing out the votes of wrong minded citizens!

Franken +188

[Link: www.startribune.com...]

/ Minnesota = Nicaragua under Ortega

re: #92 Racer X

Blagojevich to step down at 2pm?

Maybe, maybe not. He says he's going to address the charges then.

re: #88 Kenneth

What is it with Andrew Sullivan and vaginas anyway?

As a boy, he was falsely told that his father had been killed by a tribe of Amazon women.

/wait, that's Smithers, never mind

re: #105 Occasional Reader

Look, I'm no fan of this Congress, but a 2.8% nominal raise still leaves them with a real salary decrease. So, again, lots of bigger fish to fry, IMHO.

We should double their salary! With one small condition, or course: They can't come to Washington and vote on anything. I bet you'd get a few takers...even if we quadrupled it and bought them all new cars, houses and memberships to the local country club, we would still save billions.

re: #56 Walter L. Newton
Democrat works for me.

re: #92 Racer X

Blagojevich to step down at 2pm?

No way.

re: #105 Occasional Reader

Look, I'm no fan of this Congress, but a 2.8% nominal raise still leaves them with a real salary decrease. So, again, lots of bigger fish to fry, IMHO.

Perhaps, but congress giving themselves any raise in the midst of a financial crisis is a disgrace.

re: #102 MacGregor

The left is obsessed with genetalia and excretion of bodily fluids.

Well f*ck that sh*t!

/moonbat response

re: #91 Desert Dog

It looks like that smug asswad Frankenstein might just steal that election...how can this happen in this day and age?

We joke about moonbats heads exploding but if Franken pulls this off I'm afraid my head will explode...
I'm really despondent about this. It would just solidify my growing suspicion that the outcome is rigged, that our votes don't count. I don't want to sound overly negative but there are so many examples of the liberals overturning the will of the people - previously through court injunctions over proposition votes and now, emboldened enough to out and out steal...

re: #105 Occasional Reader

Look, I'm no fan of this Congress, but a 2.8% nominal raise still leaves them with a real salary decrease. So, again, lots of bigger fish to fry, IMHO.

Can't agree. Voting oneself a raise during bad economic times is arrogant and callous. Doesn't matter if it cost the taxpayer $2 or $2B. It's wrong. If they got paid $40K + room and board, you wouldn't have professional politicians.

re: #92 Racer X

Blagojevich to step down at 2pm?

re: #111 VegasRick

No way.

Way.
Then it's "move along, nothing to see here" time.

re: #110 ArmyWife

Democrat works for me.

Because it's not just Democrats. We see the same thing right here on the conservative side.

Lot at Pat Buchanan, another right nut case. Look at some of the VB like groups and folks (Robert SPencer), more nuts.

Look, whether we like it or not, there is a hell of a lot of people on both sides who are jumping the shark, and turning into, if anything, armchair fascists.

So let's start recognizing who our "friends" really are, and stop support those who aren't, even if they come from our political bent.

It's heading for a perfect storm.

re: #114 LGoPs

We joke about moonbats heads exploding but if Franken pulls this off I'm afraid my head will explode...
I'm really despondent about this. It would just solidify my growing suspicion that the outcome is rigged, that our votes don't count. I don't want to sound overly negative but there are so many examples of the liberals overturning the will of the people - previously through court injunctions over proposition votes and now, emboldened enough to out and out steal...

They truly believe it is justified because Dubya started it by stealing the election from Gort.

My best to Bristol & Beau - hope it works out for them. In other PALIN Family News - generally unreported in major media - Gov. Sarah Palin has said "NO" to a $25,000 increase in her salary citing tough economic times. Elected officials refusing raises are pearls without price in my book. That is all.

-S-

Palin 2012.

She was he only candidate of the 4 who was straight with the American people and did not pander. She is strong. The others are weak.

re: #69 Honorary Yooper

I've noticed that. They even go so far as to make their own blogs whereby they can "safely" attack us here at LGF. It's also amazing how much Trooferism and Nirtherism they have at said blogs.

Well, it's just as easy for me, another commenter here, to go on those same blogs when they're pointed out to me, and discredit those fools there too. They obviously are posting there because they were either banned as trolls here, or are bitter because their abject foolishness was outed for all to see here, and they know further comments here would simply draw more of the same. I just help it follow them to other blogs too. . .when I get the chance.

re: #34 jorline

But that wouldn't be fair, now would it.

/to each...from each

Weren't we all taught that it was risky for women in their late 30's or '40's to have children because the odds of having a Downs Syndrome baby increased?

Never recall reading anywhere about pregnant 18-year-old's having to worry about the chance of delivering a Downs Syndrome child.

Hmmm...

re: #71 Occasional Reader

On the long list of things currently provoking my outrage, this is pretty low. It's a 2.8% nominal increase; doesn't even match inflation, in fact not even close.

Good morning. OR.

This may be a nominal increase, but it's salt in the wound. Every one of these pricks become multi-millionaires by the time they leave office...the perks of being a public servant. Why squawk about CEO salaries and bonuses when they can not manage their way out of a wet paper sack?

How many people are receiving a cost of living increase this year...I'm not and my health insurance premiums just went up 25%.

re: #121 Ojoe

"Palin 2012.

She was he only candidate of the 4 who was straight with the American people and did not pander. She is strong. The others are weak."

Couldn't have said it better myself. She is what we will have been waiting for. (o:

re: #121 Ojoe

Palin 2012.

She was he only candidate of the 4 who was straight with the American people and did not pander. She is strong. The others are weak.

She is invincible.
/

Charles: it occurs to me that you have had a hand in several conspiracies. Dan Rather’s memo, fauxtography, debunking 9/11 Troofers, debunking Nirthers, debunking Trig-Troofers. I was wondering if Oliver Stone has contacted you regarding an unhinged film on any of these subjects – much in the spirit of JFK. Just curious.

re: #116 Opilio

It seems to me that the COLA raise they get was put in place to get around the constitutional amendment that prohibits the voting of ones-self a raise while in office. This is much like side-stepping the constitution to allow Lloyd Bentsen (SP?) and Hillary to become an appointed official whose salary was increased due to the vote of the party involved.

I don't think we should be allowing Congress to be side-stepping the constitution in this manner which is why I am a huge proponent of voting them all out and starting fresh.

re: #130 Iron Fist

Stalking the stalkers? I bet that's amusing.

Always. On occasion, it has triggered a Troofer meltdown the likes of which makes any I've seen here pale by comparison.

And that never fails to bring me a feeling of satisfaction.

re: #111 VegasRick

I hope not. I can picture (almost) Blago sitting at his impeachment trial and going "Jose Canseco" on their asses. Just spilling the beans.
Half the people on the very panel that'll be judging him have probably been involved with Blago on something shady, at least indirectly.

re: #109 Desert Dog

We should double their salary! With one small condition, or course: They can't come to Washington and vote on anything. I bet you'd get a few takers...even if we quadrupled it and bought them all new cars, houses and memberships to the local country club, we would still save billions.

One thing that needs to be changed NOW ...is that they should not be paid while they are campaigning ...if you look at the voting records of all candidates during the last election the amount of times they did not vote is crazy ...how long was the campaign for prez going on 2 years almost ...Obama rarely voted during that time ...almost none of the candidates did ...I say pay them by the vote ...

re: #25 DistantThunder

There is nothing more precious than a new baby. I'm sorry that Bristol's new mother-in-law was just arrested on drug charges.

Drugs? As in the substances the obamessiah has a history of using?

re: #96 Shug

Needs
Immediate
Restraint
Thorazine
Haldol
Electrocolvulsive Therapy
Restoril

How very Soviet of you.

I think the "Nirthers" are barking up the wrong tree but in this society they are free to have and express their own opinions. It may be in a misguided way but at least they care about the integrity of our Constitution. Demolish their arguments with counter arguments? By all means. But to insinuate they should be forcibly silenced with psychotropic drugs is totalitarian and disgusting.

re: #135 GGMac

Drugs? As in the substances the obamessiah has a history of using?

That seems to be a trait common amongst several of our recent presidential candidates and Presidents. . .unfortunately.

Here is one that is spreading all over the libtard blogs - Apparently Daddy's parents were running a Meth Lab and got busted.

What sore fookin winners they are

Daddy Johnson's Family was Cranked up

re: #134 JacksonTn

The only thing to change in Congress is...

TERM LIMITS!
6 terms for House = 12 YEARS
2 terms for Senate =12 YEARS

Restore the original intent! Congress should be made up of regular folks who take a break from their careers to work for the Nation for a few years. That's all, A FEW YEARS.

re: #57 Alaska Kim

there are many more things to do here in the wintertime than drugs.

For years I've been aching to go to Alaska, and not to do drugs.

I clipped this out of travel alaska:

"Alaskans don't hibernate like bears; winter's when the fun begins and you're officially invited! Whether you desire endless white solitude or endless activities and events, we have it all - from wildlife to wildly good times.

We're not in the dark - as widely thought. We bask in 6-13 hours of daylight sandwiched between a ton of twilight on one end and endless dawns on the other. And with average temperatures around 20°F, winter enthusiasts can enjoy Alaska in complete comfort.

Immerse yourself in Native culture, check out the wildlife, take a horse-drawn sleigh ride or drive your own team of sled dogs. Enjoy all varieties of skiing, and then there's snowboarding, skating, hockey, ice fishing, snow machines, winter carnivals and festivals - and did we mention great food, extremely entertaining indoor stuff, world-class accommodations and outstanding deals!"

re: #139 NelsFree

The only thing to change in Congress is...

TERM LIMITS!
6 terms for House = 12 YEARS
2 terms for Senate =12 YEARS

Restore the original intent! Congress should be made up of regular folks who take a break from their careers to work for the Nation for a few years. That's all, A FEW YEARS.

Or take the power to gerrymander away.

Because you know, the Bristol smears need further refutation. It isn't as though they were patently, provably, maliciously false the second they came out.

re: #32 Sharmuta

A baby at Christmas- what a wonderful blessing for the Palin family.

Well .. that allows me to let you all know, my son's baby girl was born on the 14th of December. She's exquisite. Mother, baby (Adelaide Bea), and Dad are all doing well. Me? My feet are just about ready to land back on this earth! I'm very happy. :)

re: #121 Ojoe

Palin 2012.

She was he only candidate of the 4 who was straight with the American people and did not pander. She is strong. The others are weak.

She's going to be a terrific Grandmother too.

This whole theory demostrates just how strange the left thinks the right is, how they fundamentally don't understand us.

This was all to "cover up" the fact she was pregnant? Why would the pregnancy be something to cover up? Do they think we are in the 1950's where girls were so ashamed to get pregnant young that we would send her away or something like that? No. Its now pretty normal and people have recognized the moral failing of hiding it away like that. Its not to say that getting pregnant as a teenager is a good thing. it is not. but it just isn't treated like that anymore.

So the theory is Sarah Palin went through all this trouble and risked getting caught, all to cover up a non-scandal.

And while i appreciate what Jammie Wearing Fool is trying to do, bluntly, anyone who believes this is beyond logic, especially Andrew Sullivan. They have transformed the other side into all powerful monsters, and no amount of logic would do any good. there are cases where reasonable questions can be asked, and there are cases where there are no reasonable questions left.

The saddest moment of this whole silly thing was when they pointed at a picture of Bristol and she had a little normal fat and they said she looked pregnant. what do you think that did to that girl's self-esteem? it was a shameful moment in a silly "scandal."

Nirther/Troofer/Yec'r

The new underclass.

Andrew Sullivan needs to get out of his White Tower and talk to some real people. The sun is frying him where he is at. I am not sure why Drudgereport even lists him

Actually, it was Elvis's baby. She concieved on the mother ship. Its in that same place where Pelosi and Reid were actually ethical.

This is such a non-issue.

I puke in the general direction of the pie holes spewing this slime.

BELCH!

The only thing to change in Congress is...

TERM LIMITS!
6 terms for House = 12 YEARS
2 terms for Senate =12 YEARS

...
My own suggestion is, not to limit terms, but to limit any individual to no more more than twelve years of consecutive service. Each representative or senator should then take a minimum four year break.

Palin unnerves the whole left. I think these attacks are going to continue...there is no way liberals want her on the national stage.

re: #41 Charles

Note that there are a few people who are making it their business to go around to other blogs and post comments attacking me. Having totally lost the debate on honest grounds, they now post bitter sniping comments to get even.

Moonbats are not only a leftist affliction.

Did you notice the (paraphrased) "Charles HATES Christians!" comment? Why waste a good lgf/Charles bashing session on just one topic when the whole spectrum can be unleashed. ;)

For those who insist on dragging the drug charge against Bristol's future mother-in-law into this discussion, it should be noted that the drug involved was oxycontin, not something that is grown or "cooked" at home. It is also often involved with people who have a legitimate pain problem, rather than "zeroes" who just want to get high. But the Left isn't concerned with making distinctions. They have often felt free to lump vets who got hooked on morphine from their war wounds in with "recreational" drug users. Mrs. Johnston's arrest details are being kept under wraps for now. We don't know if she was in pain and needing more than her doctor prescribed, if she was desperately trying to get the medication for someone she cares about who has a legitimate pain problem, or if she was just a sleaze who wanted to make easy money. Whatever the details turn out to be, the arrest of Mrs. Johnston has absolutely nothing to do with Gov. Palin's ethics or ability to handle jobs with great responsibility. As others have pointed out in this thread, the Left has generally turned a blind eye to Obama's admitted "recreational" drug use, so it remains a mystery why this fringe drug arrest story is of any importance to them.