No comment.

Well, it worked for Carter, didn't it?
Oh, wait... check that...

Best part of all, we get to pay for it out of our taxes.

/spit

The Iranians have a habit of holding American diplomats hostage. I'm sure it'll work out fine this time.

We're saved!

I'm sure 0bama will be able to talk those Iraninans into NOT building an atom bomb.

I think this person should visit Iran as soon as possible.

He/She should arrive via Battleship or Carrier...

I have my own outreach program for Iran. It involves the removal of the mullahs and the Short Shit.

Okay America - time to pull your head out of your ass. The government's gonna need the space.

Well, this should work out well, becasue Iran already has an outreach program. They want to reach out and nuke someone.

re: #9 Maine's Michael

Well, this should work out well, becasue Iran already has an outreach program. They want to reach out and nuke someone.

Sounds like a Bell Telephone commercial from Hell.

I hope the outreach coordinator knows the Persian for "Go fuck yourself", since he'll be hearing it a lot.

Perhaps Obama believes the massive rebuilding of Israel and/or Boston (after the arrival of a 'loaded' Iranian freighter) will make for an excellent economic stimulus program.

He's not as untethered to the real world as some of us might think . . .

"Outreach Coordinators"
These used to be called 'Missiliers', right?

I nominate Jimmah Cahtah. He's had experience negotiating with Iran, he is a deeply deeply deeply religious fellow, he likes traveling and hugging terrorists, and let us face it, kiddies, he has nothing else to do.

Be careful what you out-reach with. It might get cut off.

Yes, reach out your hand Obama ...reach out ... but beware for Dinnerjacket wants to take you by the hand and pull you into their Hell ...just please don't take the rest of us with you ...

The first time Obama starts with any of the Sharia finance crap (and it has already been discussed in this country) I hope Americans will march on Washington ...

Wow!

I'm so glad Obama's going to be President!

//

I hope he means reaching out to smack the little mad midget upside the head.

re: #15 razorbacker

I nominate Jimmah Cahtah. He's had experience negotiating with Iran, he is a deeply deeply deeply religious fellow, he likes traveling and hugging terrorists, and let us face it, kiddies, he has nothing else to do.

Something tells me the big O has thought about it.

I can't believe it. I just freakin' can't believe it! The ignorance and naivety of this man is enough to make me want to bang my head on my keyboard. Do you think he'll get the message when the mullahs drop a nuclear bomb on Tel Aviv or explode a suitcase dirty bomb in D.C.? Hillary, at least, should know better than to go along with this fatuity!

I'm in the Twilight Zone. Aaauugghhh...

Obamamessiah vs. Madhi in a UFC cagematch!

Pay-per-view $$$ to pay off the Auto-bailout?

re: #22 gop_patriot

I'm in the Twilight Zone. Aaauugghhh...

The twilight zone is starting to look pretty good

Carter days are here again
the Mullahs get to pull our chain
while we send them cash and surplus grain
Carter days are here again

Obama says what could go wrong
why can't we all just get along
(while the mullahs build a nuclear bomb)
Carter days are here again

The one has got a peace plan
until the oil hits the fan

Oh-bama gets an outreach czar
while OPEC tries to tax our cars
the 13th Imam can't be far
Carter days are here again!

I'm pretty sure if there is one foreign policy objective that Obama wants to accomplish it is to put Israel in a very tight spot.

I can't believe I'm pinning my hopes on Hillary. It's that bad.

What an great way to let other rouge regimes know that if the commit an act of war upon us, such as seizing our embassy, all they have to do is wait it out for the right administration to take office, and all will be forgiven!

Outreach?

Coordinator?

Just the name will be interpreted as "Please take advantage of our goodwill! We are eager to fail in this endeavor!"

We want a democratic Iran at peace with itself and it's neighbors.

Appeasing the current Iranian tyranny will not advance our goals.

The only reaching out we should be doing to the Iranians is with a MOAB...
/

re: #32 LGoPs

Uh...why the sarc tag?

"Secretay Clinton, please cover your cankles. We do not want to cause my associates to sin, do we?"

re: #33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Uh...why the sarc tag?

Good point. I stand corrected...

My nominee for Iranian Outreach Coordinator.

Pres-elect O, you think Iraq was a prob for GWB? Just wait until you are linked with Iran. It could interfere with a few plans for 2012. Ask Jimmah.

Appropriate song for the 0bama administration; and all the resulting sh*t that will come from it-
Seems that doomsday's come early this year

I wonder if the Romans ever tried establishing a Visigoth Outreach Coordinator.

Is this anything similar to a community organizer?

who's going to be the secretary of Good Feelings?

re: #41 MandyManners

Is this anything similar to a community organizer?

No, garbage collector.

Sounds like a job for Al Franken!

re: #30 karmic_inquisitor

Outreach?

Coordinator?

Just the name will be interpreted as "Please take advantage of our goodwill! We are eager to fail in this endeavor!"

"Outreach Coordinator" sounds like a position at a church or synagogue.

re: #41 MandyManners

Is this anything similar to a community organizer?

Good one Mandy ...we know it is not ...but Obama thinks it is ...

re: #43 Walter L. Newton

No, garbage collector.

Same difference.

re: #45 gop_patriot

"Outreach Coordinator" sounds like a position at a church or synagogue.

yeah...for the Youth Group.

I am feeling very depressed...

We will not get them to be our friend by groveling...

And we have a "brilliant" president who does not understand this...

Obama and his outreach coordinator will capitulate to Iran on every subject, and call it successful negotiation and diplomacy. I fear that our ally Israel will have to fly solo from now on.

re: #49 EmmmieG

Grovel softly, but carry...

I'm sure there are some things the US can offer Iran, like guidance systems, or at least the coordinates of Israeli sites like Dimona.
And I'm not so sure that 0bama won't offer something equivalent.

But we already have one.

I think an appropriate head of this so-called outreach program should be the Commander of SAC, or whatever the latest acronym is that describes the organization who's task it is to put fire and brimstone on target...

re: #28 Sharmuta

What an great way to let other rouge regimes

rogue!

rogue!

rogue!

(pet peeve)

Just contemplating this idea has made me break out in a cold sweat (or a cool glow, for the more gently nurtured amongst us) so I'm going outside for a bit to warm up.

Interesting OT side note, the high temp Saturday is guessed to be about 57. The high Sunday is guesstimated to be about 22.

I love living in the South.

Wanted Iran Outreach Coordinator

The successful candidate will be able to work well with people who hate America. He/she will have to smile politely when Death to America and Death to Israel is chanted and may be called to participate.

Believing the Holocaust is a hoax is a plus.

Experience kissing terrorist ass a must.

Former Presidents- that's you Jimmy Carter- are not qualified.

Salary competitive with State Dept Saudi stooges who do similar work.

Paid vacation- but not to Israel which we expect will be nuked.

Oh yeah, this will turn out well.

I'm just so far past being phased by anything our Office of the President-Elect says. I mean, there is nothing he could say, no matter how dumb that will surprise or amaze me.

re: #55 LGoPs

I think an appropriate head of this so-called outreach program should be the Commander of SAC, or whatever the latest acronym is that describes the organization who's task it is to put fire and brimstone on target...

See my nominee at #37.

re: #37 Occasional Reader

This is more like it.

re: #56 Occasional Reader

rogue!

rogue!

rogue!

(pet peeve)

That like lipstick on a pig?

re: #54 Ojoe

But we already have one.

That's outreach I can get behind! Or maybe the first armored...
/Not gonna happen anytime soon, but a man can imagine...

Outreach Coordinator? Makes me want to reach out ...
Never mind. This whole Obama cr*^*&%p is starting to make me so mad.

Hilda Solis ...Secretary of Labor ...well, guess the rest of the workplace signs will now be in spanish but most already are ... she already mentioned unions in the first minute ...guess the unions will try now to get illegals in their unions ...she is now speaking in Spanish ...I cannot take this ...

But we can hope for change!

re: #40 Occasional Reader

I wonder if the Romans ever tried establishing a Visigoth Outreach Coordinator.

Hey, OR! Let's just forget about Alaric and his misunderstood freedom fighters. They'll never try to siege a great city like ROME! C'mon, I hear there's a great show over at the coliseum! They're throwing evolutionists to the lions!

re: #41 MandyManners

Is this anything similar to a community organizer?

You have confused the post of community organizer with the 'good old reacharound'.

A common and easily explained mistake.

re: #60 Occasional Reader

GMTA

re: #52 buzzsawmonkey

The Middle East is just a dysfunctional community that needs to be organized. Just like certain sections of Chicago's South Side.

And we've just elected the man for the job!

I updinged you for that, even though it makes me want to cry.

/pulls hair out

Give Iran and outreach coordinator and next thing you know everybody will want one.

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I hope the outreach coordinator knows the Persian for "Go fuck yourself", since he'll be hearing it a lot.

And if he actually travels to Iran, he'll probably need to understand phrases like "no talking between prisoners!" and "if the Americans try to rescue you, we'll kill you first".

re: #58 opinionated

Wanted Iran Outreach Coordinator

The successful candidate will be able to work well with people who hate America. He/she will have to smile politely when Death to America and Death to Israel is chanted and may be called to participate.

Believing the Holocaust is a hoax is a plus.

Experience kissing terrorist ass a must.

Former Presidents- that's you Jimmy Carter- are not qualified.

Salary competitive with State Dept Saudi stooges who do similar work.

Paid vacation- but not to Israel which we expect will be nuked.

Anything about willingness to negotiate for and/or become a bargaining chip for said terrorist ass?

re: #61 Kenneth

This is more like it.

My candidate's an outreach coordinator. Yours is more on the implementation side.

re: #73 Occasional Reader

And if he actually travels to Iran, he'll probably need to understand phrases like "no talking between prisoners!" and "if the Americans try to rescue you, we'll kill you first".

I dunno, maube he'll be able to get the gist of it if they include gestures.

The poor guy looks like he needs a Coordinator...

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

These sorts of soft-nosed programs only INCREASE the chance of armed conflict in the Middle-east.

Without a credible threat of force, Iran isn't going to stop building nukes, and its not just Israel's problem, that's EVERYONE's problems.

Maybe Obama wants Iran to have nukes, naively thinking that it would never use them.

Again, Iran doesn't have to actually USE its nukes at all. Just HAVING them is a complete game changer for Iran.

re: #72 bulwrk

Give Iran and outreach coordinator and next thing you know everybody will want one.

Who is going to be our new Pockeyston Outreach Coordinator?

re: #63 buzzsawmonkey

"Rouge regimes" is correct if they have Communist leanings, like Chavez's Venezuela

And to be fair, Venezuelan women sometimes do go a little too heavy on the makeup.

(Although they don't really need it)

We have representing the interests of the most powerful and wealthiest nation on Earth to the most racist and mysgynistic nation on Earth, an African-American and and a Woman.

Poetic Irony?

/I only wish it wasn't that particular African-American and that particular Woman.

re: #40 Occasional Reader

I wonder if the Romans ever tried establishing a Visigoth Outreach Coordinator.

I believe they did. The Roman ambassador to the Visigoths said, "got some good news and some bad news for you. The good news is we've appointed a VOC. The bad news is, his name's Caesar."

re: #77 ClosetConservative

The poor guy looks like he needs a Coordinator...

That is sooo hilarious. I needed that.

re: #77 ClosetConservative

The poor guy looks like he needs a Coordinator...

hahahaha

re: #19 bulwrk

Dream on.

re: #61 Kenneth

This is more like it.

I prefer this

I'm having a Boy Scout campfire flashback...

Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya,
Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya...

Never did figure out what the heck "Kumbaya" was supposed to mean, though.

Maybe it's Farsi for "please don't nuke us".

re: #64 davinvalkri

If you are going to speak with someone
You must use a language they understand.

This would be a SWEET job. You would literally have nothing to do. Every morning you'd go into the office and make a call to Ahmadinejad. On the other end of the line you'd hear his secretary say "That Iranian Outreach Coordinator is on the phone again. Do you want to take his call?" Followed by some muffled yelling in Farsi and then you're put on hold. After about an hour of listening to Iranian "Hold Music" (I'm thinking Iranian Bee Gees cover band here), you finally hang up.

You report back that you're making progress. That you were on the phone with them for about an hour today and that you plan to call them back tomorrow. Hopefully the Pay Grade is at least $175k/year, plus a lot of trips to France to meet with my European, Iranian Outreach Coordinator counterparts.

I hope the outreacher can boogie.

To quote Ploome, *mondo-loogie*.

re: #78 looking closely

If we don't preemptively take out the mullah's build-a-bomb program, millions will die.

re: #88 Ojoe

Ahh...the universal language of violence.

Oh, boy am I relieved! Finally we have someone who will write strongly-worded letters to the meany Iranian leaders!

/

Oh, now this is too sweet:

OUTREACH

Function:
verb
Date:
circa 1568

transitive verb
1 a: to surpass in reach b: exceed
2: to get the better of by trickery
intransitive verb
1: to go too far
2: to reach out

re: #94 LilyGecko

Primitives understand little else.

re: #87 ceemack

Never did figure out what the heck "Kumbaya" was supposed to mean, though.blockquote>

If I recall correctly, it's supposed to mean "come by here".

re: #97 hermit

Oh, now this is too sweet:

OUTREACH

Function:
verb
Date:
circa 1568

transitive verb
1 a: to surpass in reach b: exceed
2: to get the better of by trickery
intransitive verb
1: to go too far
2: to reach out

That's the one.

re: #88 Ojoe

And nothing says "You're Next!" like missile strikes, tank columns, long-range missiles, and other sundry explosives that make the immature evil overlord in me go "muahahahaha!"
/Not saying America's evil

re: #88 Ojoe

If you are going to speak with someone
You must use a language they understand.

That Uncle Sam looks a lot like Sam Eliot.

Why doesn't Obama just dig up Neville Chamberlain's corpse and appoint him to the Iranian Outreach post, maybe the Honorable Mr. Chamberlain will have more success than with Iran than with his ill-fated outreach to the Nazis. Opps, my bad, I forgot Chamberlain came to realize the folly of his policy after Adolf's little stormtroopers ravaged Poland and beyond and he joined Winston Churchill's War Cabinet until his death. I guess that just leaves the gullible and unlearning Jimmy Carter for the post.

re: #101 davinvalkri

We are faced with terrible choices and we better have our moral sense about us, and our nerve.

BBL

Small Business ...now they talking about that how they can help ...I will give you one friggin clue Obama ...STOP RAISING MY TAXES ...

I have to stop turning on the television ...every time I do decide to turn it on it just pisses me off ...

re: #90 taxfreekiller

like that, tfk

re: #68 hermit

Yeah Alaric was tough but it was his cousin Theodoric the Ostrogoth that really scared people. He beheaded Boethius among other niceties.

This "outreach coordinator" will probably encounter some resistance, insults and they will be in some danger because of their position. They will no doubt have shoes thrown at them. They will be immersed in Iranian culture and will learn the true nature of these people. Therefore I recommend the following deserving individuals for this position:
Rosie O'Donnell
Sean Penn
Susan Sarandon
Al Franken
Nancy Pelosi
Cindy Sheehan
Harry Reid
Michael Moore...etc.

One terrorist kowtow position nominated, how many more left to go? Didn't zero say there were 57 states?

re: #90 taxfreekiller

Maybe it isn't, but hey, those Americans who couldn't go to Europe to fight Hitler mocked the crap out of him. I see no reason why we can't do the same to Ahmadinejad by imagining the outreach delegation to be something that goes kaboom.

There once was a man named Ahmadinnajacket
Who in regards to intelligence, remarked "I lack it!"
So Slick Barry sent a coordinator...

Someone finish it.

I hope they don't pick a guy with the name of Publius Quinctilius Varus for the job.

re: #103 Rexatosis

It is the Chicago Way.

/utilizing dead people to gain power.

re: #108 bellamags

Michael Moore can't be the Iranian Outreach Coordinator. Pork isn't Halal.

Aren't "outreach coordinators" the ones that coined the phrase "don't kill me I'm only the messenger"?

re: #18 Sleepyone

Wow!

I'm so glad Obama's going to be President!

//

/spit...

re: #105 JacksonTn

Small Business ...now they talking about that how they can help ...I will give you one friggin clue Obama ...STOP RAISING MY TAXES ...

I have to stop turning on the television ...every time I do decide to turn it on it just pisses me off ...

I pretty much stopped watching news programs after Nov 5th. I honestly have to say I feel better and my neighbors look less nervous since they're not hearing random screams and curses coming from my house...

Any mail for me while I was out?

re: #114 DaddyG

Michael Moore can't be the Iranian Outreach Coordinator. Pork isn't Halal.

Well in that case, scratch Rosie O.

re: #108 bellamags

This "outreach coordinator" will probably encounter some resistance, insults and they will be in some danger because of their position. They will no doubt have shoes thrown at them. They will be immersed in Iranian culture and will learn the true nature of these people. Therefore I recommend the following deserving individuals for this position:
Rosie O'Donnell
Sean Penn
Susan Sarandon
Al Franken
Nancy Pelosi
Cindy Sheehan
Harry Reid
Michael Moore...etc.

Obama has received criticism for having too many male advisors, so it's my guess that the Iranian Outreach Advisor will be a woman. Therefore, Rosie is out.

Peace in our time! Until Dinnajacket is in a bad mood...

We already have an outreach program. It's called the Marine Corps.

re: #58 opinionated

Former Presidents- that's you Jimmy Carter- are not qualified.

Actually, he's over qualified. Terrorist groveler extarodinaire.

re: #119 lifeofthemind

Any mail for me while I was out?

Yep. Here are the bills. ;)

re: #108 bellamags

This "outreach coordinator" will probably encounter some resistance, insults and they will be in some danger because of their position. They will no doubt have shoes thrown at them. They will be immersed in Iranian culture and will learn the true nature of these people. Therefore I recommend the following deserving individuals for this position:
Rosie O'Donnell
Sean Penn
Susan Sarandon
Al Franken
Nancy Pelosi
Cindy Sheehan
Harry Reid
Michael Moore...etc.

All of the above.

Is lawhawk around?

re: #119 lifeofthemind

Any mail for me while I was out?

yes..You have a returned letter from the North Pole.. Who did you piss off?

re: #120 bellamags

Well in that case, scratch Rosie O.

Not with a 10-foot pole.

re: #129 MandyManners

Not with a 10-foot pole.

he he he. ; )

McCain springs into action...
McCain suddenly decides he’s opposed to bailouts

re: #111 ClosetConservative

There once was a man named Ahmadinnajacket
Who in regards to intelligence, remarked "I lack it!"
So Slick Barry sent a coordinator...

Someone finish it.

There once was a man named Ahmadinnajacket
Who in regards to intelligence, remarked "I lack it!"
So Slick Barry annointed
a coordinator appointed
to bend over and take the sack hit.

re: #129 MandyManners

Not with a 10 50-foot pole.

FTFY.

re: #128 HoosierHoops

yes..You have a returned letter from the North Pole.. Who did you piss off?

and it came back postage due, must have been the 5 pound lump of coal attached to your letter...:)

re: #125 gclaghorn

Yep. Here are the bills. ;)

I will get right on that. You have nothing to worry about. Trust me.

How many "new" posts and cabinet positions and "czars" is this President-elect creating? Is this hitting some kind of new record? (The bureaucracy sounds like its under an enormous expansion -- expansionary inflation -- and just in time for an economic slowdown? ? Is the President-elect crazy?)

I'm still shaking my head that Congress didn't stop their "cost of living" increase this time around. Those guys are suppossed to be masters of measuring puplic opinion and the political impact of their actions.

/ha!

The politics of 2008 is trying really hard to me hurl.

re: #128 HoosierHoops

yes..You have a returned letter from the North Pole.. Who did you piss off?

Probably the Post Office
Santa is drowning, the Mayor of San Francisco told me so.

re: #136 J.S.

How many "new" posts and cabinet positions and "czars" is this President-elect creating? Is this hitting some kind of new record? (The bureaucracy sounds like its under an enormous expansion -- expansionary inflation -- and just in time for an economic slowdown? ? Is the President-elect crazy?)

Withholding any comment in that direction...

re: #123 Diamond Bullet

I'd like to see the look on Ahmadijihad's face when he recieves THAT outreach coordinator!

*knock knock*
Derka Derka jihad! (You get it, Ac*phlegm*hmed)
*knock knock* BOOM!

heh heh.

re: #131 Killgore Trout

McCain springs into action...
McCain suddenly decides he’s opposed to bailouts

He sure didn't mind taking a bailout from the Dem crossover voters in the New Hampshire primary.

re: #136 J.S.

He is reshaping government in Stalin's image.

I'm watching an Obama press conference.

Attempting to be objective, trying to forget that he is politically in opposite to my political views, soberly thinking about all the unbelievably serious and dangerous foreign and domestic issues that confront us at this time- I can't get my mind around it:

This is the President? This is the guy who has the fate of everything in his hands?

If I were a drug user I would shoot up right now.

re: #136 J.S.

How many "new" posts and cabinet positions and "czars" is this President-elect creating? Is this hitting some kind of new record? (The bureaucracy sounds like its under an enormous expansion -- expansionary inflation -- and just in time for an economic slowdown? ? Is the President-elect crazy?)

and they all are paid enormous salaries. just makes me happy

re: #131 Killgore Trout

Who woke him up?

Rush is having fun with lunatics.

re: #137 ggt

I'm still shaking my head that Congress didn't stop their "cost of living" increase this time around. Those guys are suppossed to be masters of measuring puplic opinion and the political impact of their actions.

/ha!

With an over 90% re-election rate I don't think they give a shit...
And we give them that statistic...we're a bunch of freakin' sheep.

In the "Pro" column, the World Bank has states that Russia is going to need a bailout if oil goes any lower. Don't drive, folks!

re: #144 Opinionated

If I were a drug user I would shoot up right now.

Chose the wrong week to stop sniffing glue?

re: #148 LGoPs

true

OK, GW can talk to Iran like this:

"Though the Bush administration has traditionally refused to negotiate with Iran without preconditions, Undersecretary of State William Burns attended a meeting in Switzerland over the summer with an Iranian nuclear official. "
The only difference I see is a office to try more such contacts. It's not like Obama has agreed to fly to Iran and make nice without any preconditions. By talking before bombing the plants for example, we at least claim that we warned them.
How would you guys handle it, just ignore them until the plants are built and then go to war ? There may be factions in Iran that are not as radical that would listen, but even if not, what's the down side of trying ?
We allowed Korea to get nukes, and we've been kissing their ass for years to get rid of them, talking is not a new concept from the left.

The Cuban Outreach Coordinator may be Obama's friend Zapatero in Spain's socialist party, standing with Hugo, Putin, Evo, and other totalitarians to our south.

Yesterday in Spanish newsites they were bragging about making change in the US policy toward Cuba, with a little help from Spanish socialists friendly with Fidel.

re: #144 Opinionated

I'm watching an Obama press conference.

Attempting to be objective, trying to forget that he is politically in opposite to my political views, soberly thinking about all the unbelievably serious and dangerous foreign and domestic issues that confront us at this time- I can't get my mind around it:

This is the President? This is the guy who has the fate of everything in his hands?

If I were a drug user I would shoot up right now.

Insane amounts of alcohol is looking good to me.

re: #149 ClosetConservative

I'm going to pull the bicycle out of winter storage . . .

/

re: #150 lifeofthemind

Chose the wrong week to stop sniffing glue?

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop taking amphetamines...

re: #140 Dustyvet

Think of it as a Jobs Creation program; a kind of WPA for cookie-pushers. That should make us really nervous.

re: #111 ClosetConservative

and the Army had to go in and save his ass.

The greatest ally Iran had in the US government remains the National Intelligence Estimate:

[Link: www.dni.gov...]

Nothing, not even Condi Rice's policy of appeasement, will ever approach the damage that document did in preventing action against Iran from acquiring Nuclear weapons.

re: #154 Hard Right

There's always the fantasies of science fiction, television and video games. Or you could retreat into history--and then come out even more pissed off.

re: #154 Hard Right

Insane amounts of alcohol is looking good to me.

Going to aim for a 4-year coma?

re: #136 J.S.

Is this rhetorical?

re: #161 davinvalkri

There's always the fantasies of science fiction, television and video games. Or you could retreat into history--and then come out even more pissed off.

Where'd I leave that supsended animation pod?

re: #27 FightingBack

I can't believe I'm pinning my hopes on Hillary. It's that bad.

Whoever thought she'd end up being the sane one?

Two years ago, whoever thought I'd ever say a thing like that without massive head trauma?

It's like choosing between _hitler or Mussolini and choosing Mussi because he can't manage to launch a successful attack on Libya.

re: #152 avanti

The problem is that I do not trust the O or his lib friends to not make concessions to the Mullahs in exchange for bupkiss. I don't trust them to take worthless promises in exchange for sanctions and other forms of leverage which may actually influence their behavior for the better.

re: #159 Iron Fist

Oh shit! We're all fucked!. What's next? Trying to negotiate an end to malaria with the mosquitos? Convincing the leopard to go for something in stripes?

I've got it! Making a deal with the Devil so you can be elected President! Oh, the Obamessiah already beat me to that one!

Remember, Ahamadmanonjihad did give us a chance. He sent the da'wa letter to Bush; maybe 0bama is planning to see if the offer is still open.

But I'm not converting to Islam.

re: #162 LilyGecko

Going to aim for a 4-year coma?

Or a 4 year blank spot in my memory.

re: #136 J.S.

How many "new" posts and cabinet positions and "czars" is this President-elect creating? Is this hitting some kind of new record? (The bureaucracy sounds like its under an enormous expansion -- expansionary inflation -- and just in time for an economic slowdown? ? Is the President-elect crazy?)

No, he's not crazy at all. He's a liberal and it's what they do...

AFP
Abnegated Foreign Press
date (future TBD)

The Iranian Outreach Coordinator from the United States was last heard from when this phone call was abruptly disconnected:
[transcript]
"I believe they understand our point of view and may even be willing to release me. I have impressed on them how deeply we understand their hopes and are willing to satisfy their nee--" BOOM

re: #156 Hard Right

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop taking amphetamines...

Maybe not, if you were going to end up hiding in the corner and sobbing uncontrollably anyway after watching the President bail out the UAW pension plan.

Every few days in the Lounge, we've had a sort of weird discussion. Is it just me, or does anybody else have a funny feeling that the world as a whole has reached its zenith of greatness, at least for the next couple hundred years? It looks like Reagan was right about that rendezvous with destiny.

I was talking to someone at work who hasn't seen her family in Iran for almost a decade. She said she would like to see them but is afraid she wouldn't be allowed to leave the country if she returned.

Mr. Hopeychangey knows better than her and her family though. Hopeychangey & delusional.

When you outreach to Islamists , you lose an arm.

Don't do it

re: #142 DaddyG

He sure didn't mind taking a bailout from the Dem crossover voters in the New Hampshire primary.

* * *
McCain told Michigan voters their car jobs weren't coming back, if anyone here recalls this fact.

McCain told Iowans he was opposed to their addiction to ethanol oil corn-based subsidies, for the record

McCain told them to expect pain, not a bailout.

What McCain tried to do for our banking/financial system was CPR or emergency electroshock, not lifelong LIFESUPPORT.

re: #174 Shug

When you outreach to Islamists , you lose an arm.

Don't do it

If you dine with the Mullahs, bring a long spoon.

The next four years:

IRAN: Submit or be obliterated, America!

IRANIAN OUTREACH COORDINATOR: I know! We'll send a fruit basket!

re: #164 Hard Right

Where'd I leave that supsended animation pod?

Check the garage.

re: #175 alegrias

* * *
McCain told Michigan voters their car jobs weren't coming back, if anyone here recalls this fact.

McCain told Iowans he was opposed to their addiction to ethanol oil corn-based subsidies, for the record

McCain told them to expect pain, not a bailout.

What McCain tried to do for our banking/financial system was CPR or emergency electroshock, not lifelong LIFESUPPORT.

You have a point.

re: #163 ArmyWife

hmmm...maybe not.../ (I do find the rampant government growth disturbing...but I guess it's "par for the course" for Leftist-leaning socialists...just wait till Obama begins to address "health care"...has he got a czar for that one yet?)

re: #167 Kosh's Shadow

The mosquito? We almost had that little fker, but Rachel Carson pulled us back.
Gore Loves Her

re: #171 lifeofthemind

Maybe not, if you were going to end up hiding in the corner and sobbing uncontrollably anyway after watching the President bail out the UAW pension plan.

Arrrg! Stop it! (I'm on a lake fishing. I'm on a lake fishing...I'm in my happy place...)

re: #149 ClosetConservative

In the "Pro" column, the World Bank has states that Russia is going to need a bailout if oil goes any lower. Don't drive, folks!

* * *
Russia can take a number if it wants a bailout.

Meanwhile, BILLIONAIRE Putin can melt down his tanks invading Georgia and 3 warships in Cuba's ports.

Putin's just like the UAW and the car execs together--asking for handouts while living large.

re: #180 J.S.

hmmm...maybe not.../ (I do find the rampant government growth disturbing...but I guess it's "par for the course" for Leftist-leaning socialists...just wait till Obama begins to address "health care"...has he got a czar for that one yet?)

Isn't that Daschle?

re: #177 gclaghorn

The next four years:

IRAN: Submit or be obliterated, America!

IRANIAN OUTREACH COORDINATOR: I know! We'll send a fruit basket!

Don't they already have one? Or at least a fruity basketcase?

re: #166 MJBrutus

The problem is that I do not trust the O or his lib friends to not make concessions to the Mullahs in exchange for bupkiss. I don't trust them to take worthless promises in exchange for sanctions and other forms of leverage which may actually influence their behavior for the better.

I share that skepticism, I was not happy with the US groveling to the Koreans during both the Clinton and Bush terms either and can only hope for better. As you know by now, I'm big on hope, but only time will tell.

I'm waiting for my outreach-a-round

/ gunnery sgt hartman

Dec 3, 2008

WASHINGTON (AFP) — Aides to top US lawmakers expressed surprise on Wednesday after Iranian parliament speaker Ali Larijani said he was mulling talks with members of the US Congress after receiving letters from them.

"Everyone thinks this is dead wrong," an aide to a senior Democratic senator who is a key voice in US foreign policy said after asking other congressional experts about Larijani's claim that US lawmakers had written him.

The official, who requested anonymity, said some nongovernmental organizations had been "trying to enlist House members" to support scientific or cultural exchanges with Iran, and that some might have written letters in support of such efforts "But I'm not aware of any such letters sent directly to the Iranians. And it'd be highly unusual to ever have Senators engaging directly with foreign governments this way, let alone rogue regimes," the aide told AFP

re: #177 gclaghorn

The next four years:

IRAN: Submit or be obliterated, America!

IRANIAN OUTREACH COORDINATOR: I know! We'll send a fruit basket!

And a dove of peace (shades of Mars Attacks)

Does this new office come with a ten foot pole and full body armor for IED's?

re: #170 hermit

AFP
Abnegated Foreign Press
date (future TBD)

The Iranian Outreach Coordinator from the United States was last heard from when this phone call was abruptly disconnected:
[transcript]
"I believe they understand our point of view and may even be willing to release me. I have impressed on them how deeply we understand their hopes and are willing to satisfy their nee--" BOOM

Remember this one?
"Ambassador?"
"I can hear the sound of explosions from the north east. The sky is very bright. All lit up. ..brreee"
- Fail Safe

re: #185 MJBrutus

Isn't that Daschle?

You mean Douchel?

For good order we should keep our Roman History timelines correct.

By the time of Alaric (410) the 'Roman Empire' was a hollow shell and the city of Rome ruled itself only. The days of Ceasar were long past.

There is a great history book (old 1880's iirc) that turns the idea that the Romans were besieged by barbarians on its head. By the mid 5th century, the Ostrogoths had a very advanced civilization and functioning empire. The Romans only had memories of grandeur.

As long as this new office is not connected to the State Department, such a position might be a good idea. And yes, I would recommend a special office for North Korea.
The State Department along with the CIA need to be de-funded. I'm hoping that's the reason Obama gave it to Hill-dog.

re: #177 gclaghorn

The next four years:

IRAN: Submit or be obliterated, America!

IRANIAN OUTREACH COORDINATOR: I know! We'll send a fruit basket!

Instead of the fruit basket, send some hams and pork sausages.

I am ok if this "Outreach Coordinator" goes by the name of Michael Bolten.

re: #185 MJBrutus

I believe you're correct...(i'm beginning to wonder who won't be working for the government come 2012...all are goin' be beholden to Saint Obama...politics/business/corruption run amok...)

re: #180 J.S.

hmmm...maybe not.../ (I do find the rampant government growth disturbing...but I guess it's "par for the course" for Leftist-leaning socialists...just wait till Obama begins to address "health care"...has he got a czar for that one yet?)

And there hasn't been any growth coming from the Republicans?

IMO, we are screwed until we can start looking at right and wrong, not right and left. Party loyalty is of absolutely no use to us if neither party is protecting our interests, which in turn protect the counties interests.

I thought we already had an outreach program to Iran called the CIA and the USMC.

re: #198 ArmyWife

How about John Bolton? Or R. Lee Ermey? Anyone but the set Obama is likely to choose from...

re: #198 ArmyWife

I am ok if this "Outreach Coordinator" goes by the name of Michael Bolten.

He'll croon them into submission!

Franken sticks the fork in Norm and continues to twist it.

/live feed, TGIF, DRINK!

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

I think you mean John Bolton, former UN ambassador.

Michael Bolton is that has-been New Age singer with too much hair.

Or the character in Office Space.

A Christmas Message from Fred.

re: #172 ClosetConservative

Every few days in the Lounge, we've had a sort of weird discussion. Is it just me, or does anybody else have a funny feeling that the world as a whole has reached its zenith of greatness, at least for the next couple hundred years? It looks like Reagan was right about that rendezvous with destiny.

I think every generation perhaps gets that feeling. However, I do think that there is a danger, largely due to affluence and the corresponding weakness in character that it can breed, of forgetting some essential truths, the most important being that evil exists in the world. I worry that we are going to be re-taught that lesson and I wonder if we'll have the same fortitude in adversity that our fathers had...

re: #153 alegrias

It's not pretty. I've got a lot of relatives in Bolivia, about half of them (soft) lefties actually, and ALL of them are worried sick about Obama's election. They're convinced that he not only won't resist the would-be dictators, but will positively enable them.
I can't say I don't agree with them.

[Washington] December 6, 1941

The Roosevelt Administration, anxious to keep the US out of the wars burning in Asia and Europe, announced to day the appointment of a Fascist Outreach Coordinator.

The new diplomatic post will report to Secretary of State Cordell Hull and Assistant Secretary of State Breckenridge Long. Americans hoping for closer relations with Japan and Germany were delighted by the news.

"This is the great chance to avoid war. For too long America's foreign policy has been slanted in favor of our so-called friends Great Britain, France and China. People need to understand the feelings of Germany and Japan's people and their desire to be respected in the international community. The new position and the wise policies that go with it will ensure American peace and prosperity for generations to come." Said Charles Lindbergh, noted aviator and enthusiast for the America First! Movement.

"The International Jew is tried to prevent America from making peace with our natural allies, but they have failed." said syndicated radio personality Priest Father Charles E. Coughlin.

Even on the streets of Washington DC the news was greeted enthusiastically. A politically precocious Patty Buchanan, standing in his Lederhosen in front of the State Department protesting Jewish Emigration to Palestine, the outcome of the Civil War, the thirteenth Amendment and US support for Great Britain was heard to say: "I have an Uncle in Germany who works as a guard at a camp facility of some kind; he spends long hours in his guard tower and wants nothing more for Britain to surrender and hang Churchill for his war mongering so they can finish up at the camp and go home."

...

This news will be looked at a few years from now as absurd as the fake article above. Nothing has changed about Iran, its modus operandi, its stated goals and the danger they present. Millions of people may die if we don't act soon. Ahmadinejad must be fairly levitating in his office right now.

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

I think you mean John Bolton, former UN ambassador.

Michael Bolton is that has-been New Age singer with too much hair.

John Bolton---outreach GWB Style

Michael Bolton--outreach BHO style

re: #196 solidground

the CIA need to be de-funded

/um, no

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

I think you mean John Bolton, former UN ambassador.

Michael Bolton is that has-been New Age singer with too much hair.

That's correct - and torture is not an accepted part of US foreign policy.

re: #200 Walter L. Newton

I don't believe come January that there will be any "opposition" (or it'll be insufficient to stem the tide...and until (if) the "Republicans" can radically re-create themselves, it's bascially a single party State in the U.S.)

Javier Solana was/is the EU's "Iranian Outreach Coordinator".
Javier Solana is another Spanish Socialist too friendly with totalitarians.

FYI, Spanish socialists removed the last statue of former Generalisimo Francisco Franco yesterday because he ruled Spain for 40 years.

Spanish socialists kiss both Fidel Castro's cheeks after Fidel's 50+ years of dictatorship.

What has Iran done since 1979 that gives 0bama even one scintilla of hope that things have changed? (Yeah, I tried to work them both in on purpose, just like he does.)
If anything the 12th imam stuff is stronger in Iran now than ever before, along with its attendant need for worldwide chaos so as to assist that imam's coming forth.
All I can hope is that the one person assigned to this job will receive loads of information about Iran, the ayatollahs, the 12th imam, the need for chaos, taquiyya, world wide caliphate and so forth.

re: #190 kafir lover

Wait! I see a positive note!

In the science exchange, we could send them all our creationists!

/oh please...oh please...

re: #208 LGoPs

The enemy is us. We are taking ourselves down. Hell, by the time Iran or N. Korea or Islam gets around to it, all they are going to have to do is give as a little nudge and we will cave.

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

Yes. You are correct. though Michael Bolten is a good choice, too.

/hangs head in shame.

re: #214 buzzsawmonkey

You get the majority of votes from car trunks--from cellars--from the back of unmarked vans!

But wait--there's more!

Sounds more like Cook County than Minnesota. I guess someone's been doing outreach and teach programs.

re: #209 wolfie

Hoo boy. We're gonna be hurting for the next four years. Maybe not "we", but the world definitely will be.

OT:

Open wide and swallow. Blago coming to the mikes in 2 minutes.

re: #182 FightingBack

aaaghhh, Rachel Carlson.

re: #195 experiencedtraveller

For good order we should keep our Roman History timelines correct.

By the time of Alaric (410) the 'Roman Empire' was a hollow shell and the city of Rome ruled itself only. The days of Ceasar were long past.

There is a great history book (old 1880's iirc) that turns the idea that the Romans were besieged by barbarians on its head. By the mid 5th century, the Ostrogoths had a very advanced civilization and functioning empire. The Romans only had memories of grandeur.

By the 5th century the capital of the Western Empire was in Ravenna. Rome was already becoming a dwindling backwater with ignored Senators and starving slum-dwellers.

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

I think you mean John Bolton, former UN ambassador.

Michael Bolton is that has-been New Age singer with too much hair.

* * * *
Josh Bolten is Pres. Bush's Chief of Staff and former head of OMB.

Khamenei: You are a kind and considerate young man.
Ob: And you sir, are a great man.

You know how this turns out.

re: #205 Killian Bundy

Franken sticks the fork in Norm and continues to twist it.

/live feed, TGIF, DRINK!

I watched yesterday and was sickened by the repeated lies and misdeeds of this group of grown men.
Maybe Norm has lost the desire to serve.
But these men were not going to allow Norm to win no matter how much he wanted it anyway.

Exclusive: over 60 per cent of Britain's Muslim schools have extremist links, says draft report

An early version of the report, entitled When Worlds Collide, alleges that of the 133 Muslim primary and secondary schools it surveyed, 82 (61.6 per cent) have connections or direct affiliations to fundamentalists. The 133 schools are in the private sector but supposedly subject to Ofsted inspection.

The report also claims that some of these schools teach "repugnant" beliefs about the wickedness of Western society and Jews.

The claims in the report, written by Denis MacEoin in response to a commission from Civitas, will provoke ritual cries of "Islamophobia" from the Muslim Council of Britain and fellow travellers such as Koran Armstrong. MacEoin has been careful to back up his claims with evidence - in particular, screen captures of links to Islamic hate-mongers, including supporters of Al-Qaeda.
...
The schools known as Darul Ulooms, which base their curriculum on a seventeenth-century Indian teaching system, include very few secular subjects, claims the report. It says: "Their aim is not to prepare pupils for life in the wider world, but to give them the tools for a more limited existence inside the Muslim enclaves."

The consequences for bright Muslim British girls are absolutely dire. Lively intellects are being destroyed and brilliant careers cut off before they can begin. To quote the report again: “Every year, an incalculable number of Muslim teenagers and young women are lost to the wider world that informs their citizenship.”
...
And all this is happening with the implicit consent of the Government, Ofsted – and Christian leaders, who bang on about the threat to “faith schools” (and, in the case of R. Williams, the virtues of Sharia) while shielding their eyes from the evidence that many Muslim faith schools are poisonously anti-Christian.

re: #226 alegrias

Michael Bolten would teach them to sing in perfect harmony?

How about that nice Columbia University scholar who said he would let Hitler speak [but they won't let you speak if you have any connections to anything remotely conservative]. He would certainly be great a reaching out.

re: #219 Walter L. Newton

The enemy is us. We are taking ourselves down. Hell, by the time Iran or N. Korea or Islam gets around to it, all they are going to have to do is give as a little nudge and we will cave.

I think it was Kruschev who said they would bury us from within...and sadly I think he may have been right. The infection started in the '60's...

Will the OC set ShortShit on his lap?

The way Charles writes about a topic makes people want to live.
That's one of the reasons why I frequent here.

re: #229 Killgore Trout

I'm sorry, but after reading that and the rest of this thread, I must invoke Monty Python:

For...Life's a piece of shit
When you look at it!
Life's a laugh and death's a joke it's true!
You'll see it's all a show
keep them laughing as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you!

Obama once made fun of the fact that the first time He met GW Bush in the White House, Bush washed his hands with hand sanitizer afterward...well lets see how Obama feels about the germs on his hands after he shakes Dinnerjack's hand.

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

I think you mean John Bolton, former UN ambassador.

Michael Bolton is that has-been New Age singer with too much hair.

Actually, Michael Bolton might be an even better play than John Bolton.

If we assume that any effort to "reach out" to Iran will fail, and that seems a pretty safe assumption, annoying the crap out of Ahmadinnerjacket becomes a worthwhile secondary goal.

And who better to annoy...well, anyone...than the Slayer of Soul?

Long as it's John Bolton I don't mind...

Of course this isn't a surprise to us.

The majority of the drones truly don't even know where Iran is or why it might be important. Does Oprah talk about this?

So tell me something I don't know.

Question.
If a president unilaterally surrenders this country to dhimmitude (for the sake of peace, of course) do we all have to comply?
I know Red Dawn wasn't based on a surrender, but...

re: #239 revGDright

Or Michael Bolten, right? You'd like him, too!

re: #237 Big Steve

Obama once made fun of the fact that the first time He met GW Bush in the White House, Bush washed his hands with hand sanitizer afterward...well lets see how Obama feels about the germs on his hands after he shakes Dinnerjack's lefthand.

Fixed it

During the election runup, McCain indicated that direct one-on-one talks with dicktaters like Ahmadinejad would only boost their standing and importance in the eyes of the world.

Merely announcing a special cabinet post for the single country of Iran one-ups that whole concept.

re: #204 MandyManners

He'll croon them into submission!

Or by forcing them to stab pencils thru their ear drums.

re: #236 davinvalkri

heh.

OT: Remains found confirmed to be Caylee's.

Well, looks like the old saying,"if you don't learn from your
mistakes, you're doomed to repeat them." I think this has some validity here. Shades of 1933.

blago going on less than 2 minutes

live feed

re: #230 ArmyWife

Michael Bolten would teach them to sing in perfect harmony?

* * *
Remember when Republicans stayed in the Capitol Building in protest over Democrats' leaving on vacation without voting on Drill Here, Drill Now? THOSE public servants were WORKING FOR US!

"...Congress is out for summer vacation, but evidently not all House Republicans have gotten the word.

Republican officials say a dozen or more House members are due back on Capitol Hill this morning to renew their impromptu quasi-session in protest of the Democratic majority’s decision to leave for August without allowing a vote on lifting a ban on new offshore oil drilling.

The lawmakers were encouraged by their leadership to continue the demonstration after Republicans reaped a flurry of news stories for informally taking over the floor Friday after Democrats gaveled the House to a close. And it doesn’t hurt that it is something of a morale booster for Republicans who have not had much to cheer about in recent weeks...

snip

[Link: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com...]

OT

Internet break now causing disruptions in India.

re: #250 Shug

blago going on less than 2 minutes

live feed

Wonder if he'll pull a Budd Dwyer?

re: #117 LGoPs

I pretty much stopped watching news programs after Nov 5th. I honestly have to say I feel better and my neighbors look less nervous since they're not hearing random screams and curses coming from my house...

New Monk episodes in 20 days

re: #254 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wonder if he'll pull a Budd Dwyer?

but but but it's a gun free zone

/

I think that once a nation starts to decline a tremendous inertia takes hold and facilitates the decline. It can only be reversed by some great calamity and I fear that that is where we're headed...

re: #54 Ojoe

But we already have one.

I prefer a more gentle approach.

Blago: "I have done nothing wrong."

/spit

Blago Speaks!

Blago said he's not done anything wrong and will fight every step of the way.

Translation: I'm not going easy, I can take a lot of people down with me, so I better get a sweet deal.

re: #247 LilyGecko

Someday maybe someone can explain to me how anyone could hurt a three-year-old girl--let alone the girl's own mother.

re: #252 taxfreekiller

* * *
TXF,

Can you believe Minnesotans would let a warrior Senator go, for a lousy comic?

Blago is lying his head off. Can anyone else hear the nervousness in his gestures and body language?

No F-bombs yet from Blago

re: #262 ceemack

Some people are just evil. Most good people have a hard time understanding this.

back on track with this story, I hope Israel bombs the crap out of Iran's nuclear facilities much sooner rather than later. Well...I can hope can't I?

re: #247 LilyGecko

OT: Remains found confirmed to be Caylee's.

There is a special place in hell for this little girls "mother".

Diamond Bullet just posted this in the spin-offs.

Will Fitzgerald clone himself to investigate this one?

re: #136 J.S.

How many "new" posts and cabinet positions and "czars" is this President-elect creating? Is this hitting some kind of new record? (The bureaucracy sounds like its under an enormous expansion -- expansionary inflation -- and just in time for an economic slowdown? ? Is the President-elect crazy?)

Must be part of his "jobs creation" program.

re: #262 ceemack

Someday maybe someone can explain to me how anyone could hurt a three-year-old girl--let alone the girl's own mother.

The answer would not make any sense.

I hereby volunteer to go to Florida, at my own expense, to throw the switch on this murderer when the time comes.