Islamic Creationist Also a Freemason Conspiracy Kook

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Weird • Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 8:01 pm PST • Views: 214

More evidence of a cosmic convergence of idiocies:

Before he was an anti-evolution crackpot, Turkey’s Harun Yahya (aka Adnan Oktar) traded in conspiracy theories about Global Freemasonry.

Also see:
And Now, the International Anti-Darwin Essay Contest
Islamic Creationist: ‘All Terrorists Are Darwinists’
When Disco Dudes Attack

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1 Shug  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:03:03pm

Loons of a feather...

2 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:04:08pm
3 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:04:44pm

I blame the Illuminati. And Darwin. ///

4 Shug  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:04:51pm

To quote him :

a faithful person who prays regularly does not go and plant bombs here and there.

Bumpy Zawahiri disagrees

5 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:05:28pm

Well no one has ever claimed a monopoly over a specific type of lunacy.

6 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:05:29pm
Freemason Kook

/I hope you're not calling Freemasons kooks

7 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:06:29pm

I'm a former Lodge Junior Deacon, as well as a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason and a York Rite Knight Templar. So I've pretty much seen the entire Masonic world from the inside, and know all the "secrets" (not revealing anything here, but they essentially concern how we identify ourselves to each other.)

My question for Mr. Yahya: How the hell can we Freemasons run the world, if we can't even figure out how much to charge dues for our members?

8 Spiny Norman  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:06:38pm

Blair's Law in action.

9 Sean  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:07:09pm

Nirthers, Truthers, Bilderbergers, Freemasonry, ZOG...

When do I get to be in a conspiracy? It's just not fair!

10 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:08:24pm
Freemason Conspiracy Kook

/much better, thanks!

11 Dianna  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:08:47pm

I love crankery. I just do.

Where's a transcript? Since I can't hear it, I need a transcript.

12 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:09:03pm
13 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:09:24pm

re: #12 taxfreekiller

I'll bite. Who's there?

14 winston06  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:09:32pm

This is screwed

15 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:09:33pm
16 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:09:34pm

There's NO WAY I'm posting in this thread!

17 Sunlight  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:09:36pm

The Freemason thing is in some of their paperwork... charters or something. I never heard of them before I read that. Kiwanis, Rotary, Civitan, ok. But never came across Freemasons.

18 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:09:51pm

Usually I stay out of ID/Evolution threads, but Mr. Yahya's promotion of hoary anti-Freemasony canards pretty much shows where he's coming from, and I had to comment.

19 Spiny Norman  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:09:53pm

re: #9 Sean

Nirthers, Truthers, Bilderbergers, Freemasonry, ZOG...

When do I get to be in a conspiracy? It's just not fair!

Can we join the Trilateral Commission or the Council on Foreign Relations?

No? Drat.

OTOH, I believe we are all Zionists, though. We're the baddest of the bad.

;^)

20 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:10:05pm

re: #15 taxfreekiller

Freemason Conspiracy Cook who?

21 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:10:18pm
22 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:10:23pm

Moronic convergence alert!

23 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:10:38pm

re: #21 taxfreekiller


hee hee hee

24 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:10:42pm

I need a scorecard to keep track of the conspiracy kooks and the overlap between their craziness. /that and more clue by c4

25 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:11:05pm

Freemason kookery is as weird as it gets, I stumbled across a whack job site today that detailed their "secret handshakes". It was a long crazy series of photos of celebrities, religious leaders, and world leaders shaking hands... the slightest odd position in grip in the photo was explained.

26 Sunlight  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:11:07pm

re: #18 mikalm

Usually I stay out of ID/Evolution threads, but Mr. Yahya's promotion of hoary anti-Freemasony canards pretty much shows where he's coming from, and I had to comment.

This is an ID thread? I thought it was a civic organization thread. Ok then. TTFN.

27 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:11:23pm

Freemason's PAH!

It's the Knight's Doppler we have to keep an eye on.

28 jwb7605  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:11:31pm

re: #8 Spiny Norman

Blair's Law in action.

THAT is instructive. Thanks for the link!

29 JumpLandPackRepeat  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:11:44pm

gclaghorn...ask and you shall be given (an evolution thread)!

Or maybe "Be careful what you wish for"?

30 Shug  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:12:13pm

all your kooks are belong to us

31 Dianna  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:12:40pm

re: #27 jcm

Freemason's PAH!

It's the Knight's Doppler we have to keep an eye on.

And the Cloud Elders, while we're at it.

Before you know it, we won't know which way to look, so many secret organizations are out to get us!

32 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:12:59pm

re: #25 Thanos

Freemason kookery is as weird as it gets, I stumbled across a whack job site today that detailed their "secret handshakes". It was a long crazy series of photos of celebrities, religious leaders, and world leaders shaking hands... the slightest odd position in grip in the photo was explained.

Trying to throw us off...
You must be one of THEM!

*cue eerie music*

33 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:13:41pm

If I'm going to join a conspiracy, I'd want something out of it, and I seem to recall the freemasons had some darn good stuff stored somewhere under...oops, was it Boston or Philadelphia? Anyway, I'll join if I can get one of those lovely statues they had stashed down there for my front hall.

/Or cookies. Do freemasons do cookies?

On a serious note, my grandfather was a mason. My mother still has his ring.

34 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:13:43pm

And the anti-Freemasonry stuff becomes less amusing when one considers that historically it's usually been associated with anti-Semitism. A particular strain of the latter delusion sees the Craft as a front for International Zionism -- a way to seduce good Gentile men into devious cabbalistic activities under the guise of "brotherhood" and community work.

35 little boomer  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:14:05pm

waiting for 100 posts to OT...

36 Dianna  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:14:23pm

re: #32 jcm

The only problem is, if you meet people who are into conspiracy theory, they actually believe that.

It tends to fill me with gloom. It also makes me seriously paranoid - they're the sort of people who will someday go off their rockers in a dangerous way.

37 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:14:37pm

re: #33 EmmmieG

On a serious note, my grandfather was a mason. My mother still has his ring.

Mine too- but he got kicked out.

38 Shug  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:15:13pm

re: #3 Sharmuta

I blame the Illuminati. And Darwin. ///

John conner has some hilarious calls on youtube. ( funny to sane people. he takes it quite seriously )

his calls to michael savage, John Gibson and alan colmes are particularly good.

39 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:15:34pm

re: #3 Sharmuta

I blame the Illuminati. And Darwin. ///

And let us not forget the decades old Evil Atheist Conspiracy, which of course, doesn't exist.

40 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:15:43pm

re: #37 Sharmuta

Mine too- but he got kicked out.

Is there a funny story here, or was he just not conspiratorial enough for them?

41 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:15:55pm

re: #33 EmmmieG

Emmmie, I take it you're female? That disqualifies you from membership in regular Masonry, although I suppose you could get into Eastern Star if you married a Brother. However, the Theosophical Society runs something called "Co-Masonry," which is a coed version of what we do. It's not recognized as legit by regular Masons, but is still historically and ritualistically interesting, and I have a couple of pals who are involved.

42 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:15:56pm
43 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:16:36pm

re: #31 Dianna

And the Cloud Elders, while we're at it.

Before you know it, we won't know which way to look, so many secret organizations are out to get us!

Not a surprise. The Morlocks were mining and supplying those organizations with massive quantities of Administranium and Obtuseium. When we made the gamey buttocks of Morlocks a regular part of the lizard army diet, we cut into those organizations supplies. Ever since then they've been out to get us. :)

44 Spiny Norman  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:17:50pm

re: #28 jwb7605

re: #8 Spiny Norman

Blair's Law in action.

THAT is instructive. Thanks for the link!

Cool thing is, I was there when it was "discovered". A rignside seat to cultural history, in a way.

Also cool, Google now comes back with 15,200,000 hits for it. Yay Tim!

=^D

Be sure to go pay him a visit and sign the Big List, if you haven't already.

45 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:18:23pm
46 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:18:27pm

re: #32 jcm

Trying to throw us off...
You must be one of THEM!

*cue eerie music*

Ok you asked for it, it was written by this Texe Marrs Freakazoid:

The Mattel Toy Co.
In March 1997, Texe Marrs stated:

“ Even our children are being stealthily indoctrinated into the new faith... The Mattel Toy Co. has introduced its new 'Goddess of the Sun' Barbie doll. Is this the Whore of Babylon spirit, alive and with us today? ”


[edit] New International Version of the Bible
In August 1997, he claimed that the New International Version of the Bible is a feminist book for the New Age.


[edit] American government and the FBI
In a Power of Prophecy radio program on Feb 16, 2008 in a show title, The Rise of the Illuminati Psychopaths and The Savage Horror of America’s Coming Gloom, Marrs states that the FBI shoots people's pets such as was the case at Ruby Ridge. He also claimed that the USA lies about terrorist groups like Al Qaeda and further hinted that the American government could be making up bombing incidents in Iraq during Operation Iraqi Freedom.[2]

Marrs is quoted as saying from the program, The Rise of the Illuminati Psychopaths and The Savage Horror of America’s Coming Gloom show:

“ America is a psycopathic nation[2] ”
“ A church can become dysfunctional because a psycopath gains control, and it's not always the pastor...soon the whole church goes insane[2]

47 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:18:33pm
48 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:18:53pm

I've seen him go off on this topic before. He blames Jews, Masons and atheists for Islamic terrorism too.

49 Spiny Norman  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:19:58pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

I've seen him go off on this topic before. He blames Jews, Masons and atheists for Islamic terrorism too.

How does he sleep at night, we wonder...

50 picaro  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:20:08pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

Don't forget the Illuminati and the New World Order too. It is part of the Master Plan! ;>)

51 Dolphin  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:20:17pm

re: #45 taxfreekiller

OT

re: #47 taxfreekiller

TO

lol - I'm out folks. Enjoyed chatting with you all!

52 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:20:36pm

No downdings on Charles' post yet, the late shift is late.

53 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:21:04pm

re: #49 Spiny Norman

re: #49 Spiny Norman

How does he sleep at night, we wonder...


I imagine he sleeps quite well. He's very rich and is well connected.

54 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:21:30pm

re: #46 Thanos

Ah, the great Texe Marrs - the David Icke of Know-Nothing fundamentalism.

That last paragraph sounds like it could have been written by any left-wing moonbat during the last eight years, which is a great example of the "moronic convergence" of political paranoia.

55 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:22:29pm

re: #34 mikalm

And the anti-Freemasonry stuff becomes less amusing when one considers that historically it's usually been associated with anti-Semitism. A particular strain of the latter delusion sees the Craft as a front for International Zionism -- a way to seduce good Gentile men into devious cabbalistic activities under the guise of "brotherhood" and community work.


Hey, Texe Marrs, professional Kookspiricist, says they don't hate the jews, they want to save them:

John Hagee
On the Power of Prophecy radio program show on Feb 23, 2008 titled, “Jesus Is Not Israel's Messiah”—A Profile of John Hagee, Marrs criticized televangelist John Hagee for his claims that Jesus is not the Jewish messiah with these statements:

“ He may be possessed by Satan[3] ”
“ Most of these fakers have diploma mill [degrees][3] ”
“ His books are ghost written[3] ”
“ John Hagee is a faker[3] ”

Marrs also claimed on that show that John Hagee is a false prophet, part of the Judaizer movement, an apostate and an Antichrist. He also stated that Hagee attacks the word of God and is in bed with Jews, Lucifer, Satan, and the serpent.

56 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:23:07pm

re: #36 Dianna

The only problem is, if you meet people who are into conspiracy theory, they actually believe that.

It tends to fill me with gloom. It also makes me seriously paranoid - they're the sort of people who will someday go off their rockers in a dangerous way.

Very true, what cracks me up the most is, the lack of evidence of a conspiracy is evidence!

57 Spiny Norman  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:23:11pm

re: #53 Killgore Trout

re: #49 Spiny Norman

I imagine he sleeps quite well. He's very rich and is well connected.

Ah! Should I suspect his CTs are snakeoil pitched to the weak-minded?

58 avanti  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:23:53pm

You need to follow the flawed logic.
1. If you don't believe the literal reading of The Bible Or the Koran, you are not a true believer.
2. If you re not a believer, you don't have a moral compass.
3. If you don't have a moral compass, you'll do bad things.
4. If you can do bad things, you blow up people.
Of course you have to factor in that more people have been killed because of their faith or lack there of in the equation. Go back to the dark ages and have this debate and meet your friend the rack.

59 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:24:02pm
60 Spiny Norman  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:24:04pm

re: #56 jcm

Very true, what cracks me up the most is, the lack of evidence of a conspiracy is evidence!

And the True Believers see nothing funny about that.

61 itellu3times  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:24:31pm
Tags: Evolution, Creationism, Religion, Intelligent Design, Science, Turkey, Harun Yahya, Islam, Freemasonry

Kook, Nut, Loon, Wack, Maroon, Fool, Idiot, Superstition, Suspicion, Conspiracy, Unintelligent Design, Turkey, Goose, Quack, Brick short of a load, Light in the loafers, Drip, Screwball, Psycho-Ceramic (crack pot), Meathead

62 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:24:42pm

Sorry Mikalm, wrong kookspiracy quote lunacy above, here's the right part:

Marrs has been accused of being anti-Catholic,[5][6] critical of Freemasonry[6][7], and the New Age movement[6]. His critics, like Edward L. King[7], have accused him of anti-Semitism[7]. Marrs' website offers copies of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion for sale, saying:

“ The Illuminati's March of Death as I call it was revealed in advance in the satanically prophetic textbook of terror called The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Read what the Zionist monsters said they were going to do.[8] ”

Texe Marrs denies harboring anti-Semitic views. In his video, Thunder Over Zion, he states:

“ If we hated the Jews, we wouldn't want to see them in Heaven with us, would we? We'd want to see them go to Hell. But it's the Christian who truly loves the Jews, who truly wants the best for them. And that's why we preach to the Jews, as well as to gentiles.

63 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:24:47pm

re: #46 Thanos

If would be funny if these nutbugers weren't so serious.

64 Spiny Norman  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:25:05pm

re: #61 itellu3times

Kook, Nut, Loon, Wack, Maroon, Fool, Idiot, Superstition, Suspicion, Conspiracy, Unintelligent Design, Turkey, Goose, Quack, Brick short of a load, Light in the loafers, Drip, Screwball, Psycho-Ceramic (crack pot), Meathead

Cuckoo.

65 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:25:10pm

Well, Lizards, Sir Knight and Prince of the Royal Secret MikalM, 32nd Degree, has to make an important phone call (gotta chat with the Bros about that Federal Reserve thing, as well as that new war we're cooking up.) I'll check back later on you cowan jokers!

/evil laughter

66 jwb7605  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:25:19pm

re: #56 jcm

Very true, what cracks me up the most is, the lack of evidence of a conspiracy is evidence!

You don't seem to understand. The lack of evidence proves there is a coverup.
Good Grief! If there were evidence, there couldn't be a conspiracy!

Sheesh.
/

67 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:25:44pm
68 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:26:30pm

OT: Swedish city hit by "youth" riots

Note how the Beeb never mentions the rioters religion but notes the presence of a mosque in a disputed building. Liars and Fools.

69 Dolphin  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:26:43pm

re: #58 avanti

What, exactly, are you referring to?

70 picaro  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:26:48pm

re: #54 mikalm

The name Texe Marrs seemed familiar, so I want into my library. Turns out I have Dark Secrets of the New Age , probably given to me 20 years ago by a Bircher. It's useful to know something about the fringe so one can refute outlandish claims.

71 Instinct  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:26:50pm

Can we get a flowchart or something going so I can keep track of all the conspiracies out there.

Just yesterday I was told by a woman that the entire financial situation was created by the Jews so the could buy up the US and turn it into a new Israel. That way they can have a second base to try and take over the world from.

Now I find out its the dang Freemasons! Are the Jews part of the Freemasons? Like some sort of AAA farm club for global conspiracies? ? I'm so fucking confused...

72 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:27:04pm

re: #63 jcm

If would be funny if these nutbugers weren't so serious.


It would also be funny if the Islamists and the "conservative" religious right were pushing in the same direction. Hey, they are! Hahahahaha!

73 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:27:39pm

re: #50 picaro

Don't forget the Illuminati and the New World Order too. It is part of the Master Plan! ;>)

That's all just a smoke screen to keep the scrutiny off the underground alien bases.

/like the Denver airport and Dulce, New Mexico

74 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:27:47pm

re: #60 Spiny Norman

And the True Believers see nothing funny about that.

Boy ain't that the truth, they fly the handle off so damn easily.

75 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:27:51pm
76 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:29:42pm
77 Dolphin  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:29:46pm

re: #75 taxfreekiller

Listen, Bill , he is ok, he is 1/2 black and was the first want-to-be black pres. but, that witch of a wife, send her out of the country on buss. K?

LOL - I love ya'

Again, I'm out.

78 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:29:57pm

re: #63 jcm

If would be funny if these nutbugers weren't so serious.

What's interesting about this serious nutjob is that he's from Austin, and a lot of our serious repeatedly whacked socks are from Austin.

79 The Other Les  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:30:15pm

Jack T. Chick has a problem with Masons too.

And who hasn't seen the Architect Sketch?

80 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:30:24pm

OT:
AFP is getting mighty cozy with Islamic Jihad in Gaza. Taking glamour shots of Hamas thugs practicing their terror tactics- including rappelling down buildings.

And they don't bother to note that the banners call for Israel's destruction.

Hizbullah's been busy in Lebanon indoctrinating hatred of Israel and the US.

Meanwhile, things must be so tough in Gaza that the kids are busy playing with radio controlled toys. I'm sure Hamas or Islamic Jihad will find a way to exploit that rather innocent activity and use it for their terror purposes before long.

81 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:30:34pm

re: #71 Instinct

Can we get a flowchart or something going so I can keep track of all the conspiracies out there.

Just yesterday I was told by a woman that the entire financial situation was created by the Jews so the could buy up the US and turn it into a new Israel. That way they can have a second base to try and take over the world from.

Now I find out its the dang Freemasons! Are the Jews part of the Freemasons? Like some sort of AAA farm club for global conspiracies? ? I'm so fucking confused...

Oh yeah! When the market crashed, 4000 Jooos on Wall St stayed home and shorted the S&P!

I read it on the internet!

82 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:30:43pm

Masonry reminds me of castles and fortified cities.

83 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:31:20pm

re: #71 Instinct

Can we get a flowchart or something going so I can keep track of all the conspiracies out there.

Just yesterday I was told by a woman that the entire financial situation was created by the Jews so the could buy up the US and turn it into a new Israel. That way they can have a second base to try and take over the world from.

Now I find out its the dang Freemasons! Are the Jews part of the Freemasons? Like some sort of AAA farm club for global conspiracies? ? I'm so fucking confused...

80 to 90 percent of these tie back to White Nationalism, and "It's da jooos" that's all ya gotta remember :)

84 picaro  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:31:35pm

re: #58 avanti

I don't think a single Christian believes the Bible in its entirety should be read literally. There is much poetic and allegoric language. For example, when Jesus is quoted as saying "I am the door" - a literal reading is that he is made of wood. I believe you painted with too broad a brush, which is also a trait of the extremist fringe.

85 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:31:50pm

re: #66 jwb7605

You don't seem to understand. The lack of evidence proves there is a coverup.
Good Grief! If there were evidence, there couldn't be a conspiracy!

Sheesh.
/

So rainbow unicorns with strawberry farts do exist!
No evidence of one exists therefore they exist!
BBIW
Going Unicorn hunting!
/

86 The Other Les  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:32:22pm

re: #82 experiencedtraveller

Masonry reminds me of castles and fortified cities.

Castles and fortified cities remind me of Dungeons and Dragons.

Chick had a problem with that too.

87 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:32:41pm

Half the Supreme Court is filled with Freemasons. That's why the Nirth Certifikit case went no where. The other half is filled with Darwinists. It was doomed from the beginning. Can't you all see that?!

88 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:32:47pm
89 Instinct  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:32:55pm

re: #75 taxfreekiller

I read that and looked over at the TV and the Cosby show is on, and then it hit me. Barack and Michelle are like evil versions of the Huxtables.

90 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:33:10pm

Anyone who goes on about free masonry has to be a kook, or at the very least full of it.

Free masonry my ass, that shit is freakin' expensive!
/wait, what..

91 itellu3times  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:34:12pm

Trilateral Commission, hey all this and no mention of the Trilateral Commission? Sic transit gloria mundi.

92 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:35:10pm

Mr. Killer, that band you like ever play over here by Dallas?

93 picaro  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:35:25pm

re: #91 itellu3times

Didn't they disband after 1988? When Bush Sr. was elected their work was done.

94 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:35:28pm

Harun hates Freemasonry, so does VB...

95 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:35:33pm

re: #78 Thanos

What's interesting about this serious nutjob is that he's from Austin, and a lot of our serious repeatedly whacked socks are from Austin.

Too much Alex Jones I think.

96 Racer X  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:35:50pm

Skull and Bones, baby.

Skull and Bones.

97 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:35:58pm
98 The Other Les  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:36:09pm

re: #91 itellu3times

Trilateral Commission, hey all this and no mention of the Trilateral Commission? Sic transit gloria mundi.

Next thing you know someone is going to go on about the Elders of Zion and the South American Nazis.

99 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:36:13pm

"serious repeatedly whacked socks"

Rotating title?!

100 Aye Pod  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:36:20pm

Anyone come across that silly Fisher Price "Islam is the light" doll kookspiracy that's been doing the rounds lately? The usual suspects were all over it, needless to say. I found this apparently racist preacher bellyaching about it here.

101 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:36:39pm

re: #96 Racer X

Skull and Bones, baby.

Skull and Bones.

They're just a distraction from the real power behind the throne; The Rotary Club.

102 Dolphin  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:36:51pm

re: #78 Thanos

What's interesting about this serious nutjob is that he's from Austin, and a lot of our serious repeatedly whacked socks are from Austin.

Please clue me in on the "nut job from Austin" And I am not being sarcastic. I spent a week with my aunt, who lives just north of Austin, the week after Thanksgiving. It was not the same person I lived with 20 years ago! lol.

103 jwb7605  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:37:38pm

re: #73 Killian Bundy

That's all just a smoke screen to keep the scrutiny off the underground alien bases.

/like the Denver airport and Dulce, New Mexico

The DIA link indicates that Wellington Webb's sneakers are in the time capsule.
This is ominous.

And what else could explain the fact that the buildings are secretly Tents?

104 swamprat  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:37:47pm

Though an unfortunate affliction, it turns out that Masonry can be cured...

105 avanti  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:37:53pm

re: #69 Dolphin

What, exactly, are you referring to?

From the link posted:

"All Terrorists Are Darwinists"

106 itellu3times  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:37:53pm

re: #64 Spiny Norman

Cuckoo.

Caca.

107 itellu3times  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:38:18pm

re: #104 swamprat

Though an unfortunate affliction, it turns out that Masonry can be cured...

Epoxy can be cured!

108 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:39:44pm

re: #101 Occasional Reader

They're just a distraction from the real power behind the throne; The Rotary Club.

Ha! I know the Rotary Club, and you're no Rotarian. You look more Trilateralist to me. Maybe a member of the Club of Rome... /heh

109 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:39:56pm
110 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:40:21pm

All these conspiracies and secret groups remind me of what Marx once said,
"I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."

111 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:40:42pm
112 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:40:54pm

Photographic evidence that proves the Jooos! and the Freemasons are in cahoots. Open your eyes, people!
/

113 Racer X  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:41:08pm
114 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:41:24pm

re: #108 lawhawk

Ha! I know the Rotary Club, and you're no Rotarian. You look more Trilateralist to me. Maybe a member of the Club of Rome... /heh

Indeed. You can see me in this photo.

115 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:41:37pm
116 Aye Pod  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:41:54pm

re: #87 Sharmuta

Half the Supreme Court is filled with Freemasons. That's why the Nirth Certifikit case went no where. The other half is filled with Darwinists. It was doomed from the beginning. Can't you all see that?!

The Freemasons are holding Obama's nirth certifikit in a special vault in area 51.

117 lostlakehiker  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:42:41pm

That's a guy who knows how to follow the stoopids around. A sucker born every minute, and he'll be right there with the Barnum&Bailey to sell them their snake oil.

118 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:42:52pm

re: #114 Occasional Reader

Indeed. You can see me in this photo.

(Just to be clear, I'm the brunette)

119 Dolphin  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:43:04pm

re: #109 taxfreekiller

Hon,, got any of those chocolate brownies the girl scouts sold us,


man I'm hungry, hurry, , this stuff Ayers left us is some bad ass smoke

Dude, Have I got a brownie recipe for you! My mom's rocked, but not so much here in Texas. This one is great!

120 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:43:13pm

re: #104 swamprat

Though an unfortunate affliction, it turns out that Masonry can be cured...

Masonry opens doors. Watch how important it is to getting this assignment for an architect.

121 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:43:47pm

re: #102 Dolphin

Please clue me in on the "nut job from Austin" And I am not being sarcastic. I spent a week with my aunt, who lives just north of Austin, the week after Thanksgiving. It was not the same person I lived with 20 years ago! lol.

I'm talking about Texe Marr, a Freemasonry conspiracy nut, he's full bull goose loon, you can get a copy of the protocols of the elders of zion off his site for instance.

122 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:43:57pm
123 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:44:01pm

Grapevine's close enough.

124 Lynn B.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:44:49pm
125 Dolphin  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:45:05pm

AGAIN! I'm out - g-d this sh!t is addictive. lol.

126 hermit  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:45:11pm

re: #91 itellu3times

Trilateral Commission, hey all this and no mention of the Trilateral Commission? Sic transit gloria mundi.

I think this whack-job's motto is:

Senito aliquos togatos contra me conspirare

I think some people in togas are plotting against me

see more useful Latin phrases...

127 mich-again  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:45:24pm

Does he know all the secret handshakes yet?

128 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:45:32pm
129 Lynn B.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:46:48pm

re: #33 EmmmieG

On a serious note, my grandfather was a mason. My mother still has his ring.

I'm pretty sure mine was too.

All part of the conspiracy, you know ...

130 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:46:58pm

A while back I found a weird ass site that said all symbols were from the devil. That was some whacked out sh*t, because I mean every symbol. They even gave reasons why each specific symbols was from the devil. There's some really nutty sh*t out there.

131 Aye Pod  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:47:29pm

re: #113 Racer X

Shhh..

Aargh! I just checked - I have two of those 'eye' things in my head - I must be part of the conspiracy too!

132 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:47:32pm

You guys are creeping me out.

I'm putting down the bourbon.

Eventually.

133 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:48:14pm

re: #127 mich-again

Does he know all the secret handshakes yet?


He learned them from this Monty Python sketch.

134 mich-again  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:48:39pm

re: #130 Sharmuta

all symbols were from the devil.

All of them? Even the Zildjians.

135 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:48:56pm

Harun has a whole chapter even in this nascent work dedicated to the collapse of Evolution, from which he says all spiritual evil comes... now that sounds darned familiar.

136 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:49:31pm

re: #130 Sharmuta

A while back I found a weird ass site that said all symbols were from the devil. That was some whacked out sh*t, because I mean every symbol. They even gave reasons why each specific symbols was from the devil. There's some really nutty sh*t out there.

You mean, all symbols, including the Magen David, Cross, Crescent, swastika, and Hello Kitty?
Is nothing sacred?

137 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:49:48pm

Look, now, I'm looking at my schedule, and I'm just booked up with these conspiracies.

Monday night we've got the special meeting of the Freemasons on the motion to raise the price of argyle socks.

Tuesday night we've got the regular meeting of the nirth certifikit holders, and I really do think it is someone else's turn to hide the real birth certificate in their tupperware for a while. I don't mean to complain, but it's been three weeks now!

Wednesday night is the annual mixer between the Cloud Elders and the Knights of Doppler, and I really don't mind bringing the punch, but is Sue really going to bring those awful cookies with the green frosting? Could someone talk to her?

Thursday is my alien group, and while the photos are quite lovely, and our guests always so charming, it does go late. If those dear creatures from the Sirius system don't get rest, why they'll just get jet lag.

Friday is our date night. I really do insist. We're doubling with Elvis and Amelia to the bowling alley.

Saturday is, as always, reserved for the VRWC group. We'll be working on growing some cultures from that tissue BHO left behind. I do hope Marge remembers to pick up the blue dress.

Sunday I will have to insist on getting some sleep. Really. All of this conspiracizing is just wearing me out!

\

138 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:50:27pm

Obama's Poet

Our soon to be president has chosen Elizabeth Alexander to write and read a poem for the inauguration. Alexander is a professor of African American studies at Yale.

Her poetry is as lightweight as her scholarship. Her poems fluctuate between maudlin ramblings about being a woman -- like these opening lines from "Neonatology":

Is
funky, is
leaky, is
a soggy, bloody crotch, is
sharp jets of breast milk shot straight across the room,
is gaudy, mustard-colored poop, is
postpartum tears that soak the baby's lovely head.
Then everything dries and disappears
Then everything dries and disappears

/TFK writes better poetry

139 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:50:35pm

re: #133 Kosh's Shadow

He learned them from this Monty Python sketch.

I think we all know who the real threat is...

140 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:50:36pm

re: #132 Noam Sayin'

You guys are creeping me out.

I'm putting down the bourbon.

Eventually.

I already put down the bourbon. Well, drank it down.


Some of it.

141 hermit  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:51:27pm

re: #137 EmmmieG

You f*ckin' ROCK! Outstanding work!

142 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:51:32pm

re: #137 EmmmieG

Don't forget to pick the Superbowl winners.

(But not the Buffalo Bills, of course.)

143 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:51:37pm

re: #137 EmmmieG

Look, now, I'm looking at my schedule, and I'm just booked up with these conspiracies.

Monday night we've got the special meeting of the Freemasons on the motion to raise the price of argyle socks.

Tuesday night we've got the regular meeting of the nirth certifikit holders, and I really do think it is someone else's turn to hide the real birth certificate in their tupperware for a while. I don't mean to complain, but it's been three weeks now!

Wednesday night is the annual mixer between the Cloud Elders and the Knights of Doppler, and I really don't mind bringing the punch, but is Sue really going to bring those awful cookies with the green frosting? Could someone talk to her?

Thursday is my alien group, and while the photos are quite lovely, and our guests always so charming, it does go late. If those dear creatures from the Sirius system don't get rest, why they'll just get jet lag.

Friday is our date night. I really do insist. We're doubling with Elvis and Amelia to the bowling alley.

Saturday is, as always, reserved for the VRWC group. We'll be working on growing some cultures from that tissue BHO left behind. I do hope Marge remembers to pick up the blue dress.

Sunday I will have to insist on getting some sleep. Really. All of this conspiracizing is just wearing me out!

Your alien pictures are blurry

144 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:52:03pm

re: #129 Lynn B.

Hi Lynn B! I owe you a thanks. A while back I mentioned I was going to talk about hannukah to my cubs and you mentioned latkes as a traditional recipe. Went over great.

Thanks!

145 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:52:35pm

re: #137 EmmmieG

Don't forget hiding the evidence of who really killed JFK!
And the alien remains from Area 51.

(I really need to finish the novel I'm working on. I could market as reality to these conspiracy nuts, and as fiction to sane people)

146 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:52:40pm

re: #137 EmmmieG

Check your calender, Amelia promised me Friday night.

Vanished people are SO unreliable.

147 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:52:41pm

(back from his phone call)

Well, that was easy. We've decided the Fed will hold the low rates for awhile. And that war? Nowhere any of you would care about.

BTW, anybody there ever had Full Moon Winter Ale? Nectar of the frickin' Gods, it is.

148 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:52:50pm

re: #140 Shay4l

There were so many ways to go with that one. I thought I'd just throw one out there and leave it up to the comics in the room.

149 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:53:00pm
150 mich-again  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:53:16pm

re: #137 EmmmieG

What? you can't make time for the trufers, the grassy knolls, the Bildebergers, or the Reptilians?

151 Racer X  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:53:33pm
152 jwb7605  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:54:27pm

So on the darker colored posts, what secret message is Charles hiding?
I can usually make out the secret codes on the lighter ones ...

DANG! Spilled that secret!
I better leave before I reveal too much.

153 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:54:28pm

re: #94 Thanos

Harun hates Freemasonry, so does VB...

Wasn't there one of the VB cartoons that was posted that had the Freemason symbol on it?

154 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:54:31pm

re: #137 EmmmieG

Nice add, newbie.

155 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:54:41pm

re: #147 mikalm

BTW, anybody there ever had Full Moon Winter Ale? Nectar of the frickin' Gods, it is.

No. This is.

156 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:54:47pm

re: #140 Shay4l

I had to put my rusty nail down...it was spilling on the keyboard when I typed.

157 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:55:29pm

re: #148 Noam Sayin'

There were so many ways to go with that one. I thought I'd just throw one out there and leave it up to the comics in the room.

I shoulda left it for the good comics :o/

158 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:55:47pm

re: #149 Iron Fist

Who blow up da owl? Who? Who?

Was it Cypress Hill?

159 Charles Johnson  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:56:07pm

re: #153 Sharmuta

Wasn't there one of the VB cartoons that was posted that had the Freemason symbol on it?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

160 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:56:10pm

re: #138 Killian Bundy

What a load of word-salad gobbledegook.

Isn't Maya Angelou available for a return engagement?

(And I agree re tfk. As I've said, he's the e e cummings of LGF.)

161 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:56:40pm

re: #157 Shay4l

Ya gotta practice your craft, man. Don't be shy.

162 Lynn B.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:57:03pm

re: #144 EmmmieG

Hi Lynn B! I owe you a thanks. A while back I mentioned I was going to talk about hannukah to my cubs and you mentioned latkes as a traditional recipe. Went over great.

Thanks!

You're most welcome EmmieG. They're a delicious part of the holiday! I'm so glad your cubs enjoyed them.

163 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:57:34pm

re: #155 Occasional Reader

20% ABV? One bottle of that stuff should put you on the floor!

164 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:57:45pm

re: #94 Thanos

Harun hates Freemasonry, so does VB...

Yes- I'd forgotten until you reminded me, and it was posted on LGF on this thread.

Just some more strange bedfellows.

165 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:57:47pm
166 Mich-again  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:57:52pm

re: #147 mikalm

Japan's prime rate was zero for a while. Like a decade or so?

167 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:57:55pm

re: #159 Charles

Thanks.

168 Shug  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:58:05pm

re: #138 Killian Bundy

that
is
shit

169 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:58:31pm

re: #159 Charles

Charles, it's very rude for you to post comments on your own blog. Stop that.

/I read that recently

170 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:58:58pm

re: #163 mikalm

20% ABV? One bottle of that stuff should put you on the floor!

I rszmble thart rmark

171 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:59:03pm

Isis - Wills Dissolve.

From the album Panopticon. Careful, they're watching us.

172 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:59:22pm

re: #150 mich-again

What? you can't make time for the trufers, the grassy knolls, the Bildebergers, or the Reptilians?

Well, we had the trufers over once, and to be honest...I had to have the sofa cleaned. That scent just does not go away!

/

To be honest, I had to go and google two of those. What do you have to do to get invited to the Bildeberger thingy?

173 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 8:59:37pm

re: #166 Mich-again

Japan's prime rate was zero for a while. Like a decade or so?

In fact, it was less than zero (please, no Brat Pack jokes), in real terms, for a while.

174 Mich-again  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:00:07pm

re: #165 taxfreekiller

If I had invested all that money in beer instead of stocks all those years at least I would still have the 10 cent deposit for each can.

175 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:00:50pm
176 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:00:50pm
177 Racer X  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:01:09pm
178 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:01:09pm

re: #168 Shug

that
is
shit

I figured it was was too creative and brilliant for me to understand. Kinda like Marxism.

179 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:01:10pm

re: #145 Kosh's Shadow

Don't forget hiding the evidence of who really killed JFK!
And the alien remains from Area 51.

(I really need to finish the novel I'm working on. I could market as reality to these conspiracy nuts, and as fiction to sane people)

Texe Marrs can tell ya all about that too! He taught a JFK assassination class at a university for years...

180 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:02:19pm

re: #153 Sharmuta

Wasn't there one of the VB cartoons that was posted that had the Freemason symbol on it?

Yes, Fre made one where the judge ruled against Vlaams Blok, the Judge's desk had the Masonic symbol on it.

181 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:02:30pm

re: #160 mikalm

(And I agree re tfk. As I've said, he's the e e cummings of LGF.)

I disagree with tfk on, well, a lot. But I realized years ago that the guy is a natural poet.

182 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:02:55pm

re: #175 Iron Fist

Guess I'm just a lightweight, then. I stick with beer and wine -- the hard stuff just gets me too wasted, sours my stomach, and induces hangovers.

183 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:03:08pm

re: #180 Thanos

Yes, Fre made one where the judge ruled against Vlaams Blok, the Judge's desk had the Masonic symbol on it.

And a "no-nazi" sign on the side.

184 Lynn B.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:03:10pm

re: #154 Noam Sayin'

Nice add, newbie.

EmmyG's no newbie now, Noam. She's almost got a solid month full of great comments under her belt.

/of course, compared to you ... ;-)

185 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:03:27pm

re: #175 Iron Fist

You're kidding, right? It's still just beer. Personally, anything under 100 proof is just water...

I defy you to drink two Dogfish Head 120s within the space of 30 minutes and then, I dunno, juggle flaming torches or something.

186 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:04:34pm

re: #180 Thanos

That's another common one -- that we control the judicial bench. It pops up in the strangest places, too. Ex: during his trial, Charles Manson made a big deal of throwing what he thought were Masonic hand signals at the judge to bait him.

187 swamprat  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:05:04pm
188 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:05:12pm

Hello Night Lizards! It's, actually, not too bad in Near Iowa tonite. One can go outside without earmuffs and survive.

Hatchlings, SantaCorp bail-out and Global Freemasonry. Oh my!

How are you-all this evening and what are we talking about?

189 Lynn B.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:05:59pm

Oh, and yeah, those goofy Freemasons.

Forget Mozart. How about Ben Franklin?

/secret handshake or not ...

190 x-wing  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:06:13pm

re: #185 Occasional Reader

I defy you to drink two Dogfish Head 120s within the space of 30 minutes and then, I dunno, juggle flaming torches or something.

Cripes, if I could do that sober, I'd be some guy that could juggle flaming torches or something. ;>}

///

191 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:06:20pm

A paranoid poet
not to be trifled with
Say one thing he dislikes
he won't forget it.

192 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:06:49pm

re: #183 Sharmuta

And a "no-nazi" sign on the side.

Well, considering the treatment of Freemasonry under National Socialism, it would certainly be understandable.

193 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:07:21pm
194 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:07:24pm

re: #185 Occasional Reader

I defy you to drink two Dogfish Head 120s within the space of 30 minutes and then, I dunno, juggle flaming torches or something.

I'm a friggin' light weight, one New Beligum Trippel at 7.8 and I'm a buzzin'.

A 20% I'd be under table before I finished it.

195 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:08:05pm

From the old Vlaams Belang thread:

This is a golden oldie in the white supremacist movement, going all the way back to the Nazis, whose hate literature often featured conspiracies involving Freemasons and Jews.

Makes you wonder what Oktar reads when not writing islamic creationist books.

196 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:08:09pm

re: #185 Occasional Reader

I defy you to drink two Dogfish Head 120s within the space of 30 minutes and then, I dunno, juggle flaming torches or something.

I know a couple of Burning Man fire dancers that might take you up on that one.

197 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:08:34pm

I'm interested in getting the Freemasons to do some building work for me, but I'm looking to the Illuminati to install the lighting.

198 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:08:48pm

How could I have missed the omniscient individual who watches all?

199 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:09:08pm

re: #186 mikalm

That's another common one -- that we control the judicial bench. It pops up in the strangest places, too. Ex: during his trial, Charles Manson made a big deal of throwing what he thought were Masonic hand signals at the judge to bait him.

Did he do the secret handshakes too?
Or maybe it was these signs.

Texe Marrs is only for true kook connoisseurs btw, don't recommend him for most xtians either since he also attacks every televangelist that ever existed with regularity (they are all mini Antichrists)

200 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:09:55pm
201 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:10:19pm

Hmmm -

Regular Freemasonry has in its core ritual a formal obligation: to be quiet and peaceable citizens, true to the lawful government of the country in which they live, and not to countenance disloyalty or rebellion.[31] A Freemason makes a further obligation, before being made Master of his Lodge, to pay a proper respect to the civil magistrates.[31] The words may be varied across Grand Lodges, but the sense in the obligation taken is always there. Nevertheless, much of the political opposition to Freemasonry is based upon the idea that Masonry will foment (or sometimes prevent) rebellion.

Freemasonry in the United States faced political pressure following the disappearance of William Morgan in 1826. Reports of the "Morgan Affair", together with opposition to Jacksonian democracy (Jackson was a prominent Mason) helped fuel an Anti-Masonic movement, culminating in the formation of a short lived Anti-Masonic Party which fielded candidates for the Presidential elections of 1828 and 1832.

Even in modern democracies, Freemasonry is still sometimes accused of being a network where individuals engage in cronyism, using their Masonic connections for political influence and shady business dealings. This is officially and explicitly deplored in Freemasonry.[31] It is also charged that men become Freemasons through patronage or that they are offered incentives to join. This is not the case; no one lodge member may control membership in the lodge and in order to start the process of becoming a Freemason, an individual must ask to join the Fraternity "freely and without persuasion."[31]

Conspiracy theorists have long associated Freemasonry with the New World Order and the Illuminati, and state that Freemasonry as an organisation is either bent on world domination or already secretly in control of world politics. Historically, Freemasonry has attracted criticism - and suppression - from both the politically extreme right (e.g. Nazi Germany)[80][81] and the extreme left (e.g. the former Communist states in Eastern Europe).[62] The Fraternity has encountered both applause for supposedly founding, and opposition for supposedly thwarting, liberal democracy (such as the United States of America).

In some countries anti-Masonry is often related to anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. For example, In 1980, the Iraqi legal and penal code was changed by Saddam Hussein's ruling Ba'ath Party, making it a felony to "promote or acclaim Zionist principles, including Freemasonry, or who associate [themselves] with Zionist organisations.
The preserved records of the Reichssicherheitshauptamt (the Reich Security Main Office) show the persecution of Freemasons.[84] RSHA Amt VII (Written Records) was overseen by Professor Franz Six and was responsible for "ideological" tasks, by which was meant the creation of anti-Semitic and anti-Masonic propaganda. While the number is not accurately known, it is estimated that between 80,000 and 200,000 Freemasons were killed under the Nazi regime. Masonic concentration camp inmates were graded as political prisoners and wore an inverted red triangle.[85]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Dangerous folk these Freemasons be.

202 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:10:41pm

re: #194 jcm

I'm a friggin' light weight, one New Beligum Trippel at 7.8 and I'm a buzzin'.

A 20% I'd be under table before I finished it.

Nah, you'd handle it. I know you.

Well, sort of...

203 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:10:45pm

re: #195 Sharmuta

From the old Vlaams Belang thread:

Makes you wonder what Oktar reads when not writing islamic creationist books.

Are we being ripped off. I mean we get our Zionist checks, should we be getting Freemason checks too?

//

204 x-wing  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:10:50pm

re: #200 taxfreekiller

ms tfk just came by,

bikini's panties and bra

nite nite

You lucky b**tard. Have fun.

205 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:11:14pm

re: #184 Lynn B.

I must protest. EmmieG is ahead of her class and deserves the credit. The satire is strong with this scrappleheaded one. Iowahawk her wares amongst the satirists of LGF lore.

Pundamentally speaking...

206 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:11:40pm

re: #201 realwest
PIMF: "Dangerous folk these Freemasons Be" is written by moi, not Wiki!

207 Mich-again  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:11:49pm

What will give the economy traction? Simple things will. The new economy is going to be all about simple things. Ingenuity will rule just like every other time like this.

And crazy as it sounds I think the USA's biggest advantage in the next world economy is that we had the most waste to cut, so it will be simpler for us to do.

208 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:12:03pm

re: #203 jcm

Isknay on the eckschay.

209 swamprat  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:12:12pm

re: #196 mikalm

I know a couple of Burning Man fire dancers that might take you up on that one.

also for those who know

210 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:12:46pm

OT:

Jeff Dunham holiday special on Comedy Central now. Achmed the Dead Terrorist is on right now.

211 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:13:42pm

re: #199 Thanos

Did he do the secret handshakes too?
Or maybe it was these signs.

Texe Marrs is only for true kook connoisseurs btw, don't recommend him for most xtians either since he also attacks every televangelist that ever existed with regularity (they are all mini Antichrists)

He's also ferociously anti-Catholic. One of those equal-opportunity bigots.

212 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:13:45pm

re: #210 Dark_Falcon

Shut-up! I keeel you!

213 Shug  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:14:02pm

re: #200 taxfreekiller

ms tfk just came by,

bikini's panties and bra

nite nite
Burma shave

fixed

214 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:14:11pm

You know, I really miss Jerry Garcia.

215 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:14:45pm

re: #194 jcm

I had a couple Chimay Reds after work tonight. Damn, what a buzz.

Took me two bourbons to get my head straight again.

216 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:14:53pm

re: #205 Noam Sayin'

*blushing*

217 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:15:19pm

re: #209 swamprat

also for those who know

Too bad you can't post the clip from that movie of Britt Eklund knocking at the Inspector's bedroom door!

218 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:15:28pm

re: #200 taxfreekiller

ms tfk just came by,

bikini's panties and bra

nite nite

TMI!

219 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:16:10pm

re: #214 Shay4l

You know, I really miss Jerry Garcia.

Another Lizard Deadhead? Do you know Neocon Hippie?

220 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:16:50pm

re: #216 EmmmieG

That was a good riff, darlin. Own it.

221 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:16:57pm

re: #215 Noam Sayin'

I had a couple Chimay Reds after work tonight. Damn, what a buzz.

Took me two bourbons to get my head straight again.

That's why I don't drinking the wallopers like Chimay that often.

222 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:17:21pm

re: #208 Sharmuta

Isknay on the eckschay.

;-) gotcha!

223 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:17:44pm

re: #142 Occasional Reader

Don't forget to pick the Superbowl winners.

(But not the Buffalo Bills, of course.)

Detroit Lions?
/

224 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:17:44pm

re: #221 Shay4l

That's why I don't drinking the wallopers like Chimay that often.

That's easy for you to say.

225 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:18:15pm

re: #215 Noam Sayin'

I had a couple Chimay Reds after work tonight. Damn, what a buzz.

Took me two bourbons to get my head straight again.

LOL

226 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:18:20pm

The FNDT needs Music.

Don't you agree?

227 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:18:30pm

re: #211 mikalm

He's also ferociously anti-Catholic. One of those equal-opportunity bigots.

Yeah, Harun's blaming the Pope and the change from Kabala to Gnosis as creating Secular Humanism in Italy way back when in his PDF.

/it's the pope and da jooos!

228 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:19:51pm

re: #220 Noam Sayin'


I have one I'm saving for the next white supremacist thread. By the time I got it worked out in my head, the last thread was dead, so I'm holding on to it.

229 Salamantis  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:20:08pm

The Masonic/Illuminati conspiracy has kept knowledge of the space aliens away from the American public! And I have numerological proof!

The Roswell, New Mexico alien remains were moved from Hangar 18, in Wright-Patterson AFB near Dayton, Ohio, to Area 51, near Groom Lake Nevada.

And what is 51-18?

That's right, it's 33! The highest Masonic degree, and the only one that can be bestowed, but not earned.

Coincidence? I don't think so...(muttters darkly)

The human alien contact conspiracy of silence dates back farther than many are aware...all the way to one of their Presidential plants, and a widow's son-of-a-gun, Bohemian Grover Cleveland!

So Mote It Be! Remember the Four Powers of the Mage! Those who Know do not say, those who say do not Know.

And if you ever run into Hiram Abiff, run. Run like hell. That guy eats Cthulhu for breakfast.

May the Dead Rise and Smell the Incense! And when the government turns off the Sun, it is bad - very bad - to be caught outside your den. Your TV will report your absence.

(Now where did my thorazine and tinfoil get to? They're listening...I know they are. I have to dampen down the signals any way I can...)

230 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:20:37pm

re: #223 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Detroit Lions?
/

The funniest ever parody of Freemasonry was the "Stonecutters" episode of The Simpsons. In it, the secret society that Homer joined sang this song:

Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?
We do! We do!
Who leaves Atlantis off the maps?
Who keeps the Martians under wraps?
We do! We do!
Who holds back the electric car?
Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?
We do! We do!
Who robs cave fish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do! We do!

231 swamprat  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:20:50pm

re: #217 mikalm

Too bad you can't post the clip from that movie of Britt Eklund knocking at the Inspector's bedroom door!

here

232 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:21:05pm

re: #228 EmmmieG

I have one I'm saving for the next white supremacist thread. By the time I got it worked out in my head, the last thread was dead, so I'm holding on to it.

Wow, some people are just over-achievers. I don't think about what I'm writing until two posts afterwords.

233 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:22:31pm

re: #229 Salamantis


Salamantis, you do realize that because you revealed that, I'm going to have to bury you headfirst in the mudflats of Lake Titicaca and have wolverines nibble you to death from the feet down?

234 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:23:25pm

re: #211 mikalm
Interesting, because Wiki also states

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (later Benedict Pope XVI), as the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, issued Quaesitum est, which states: "...the Church’s negative judgment in regard to Masonic association remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion." Thus, from a Catholic perspective, there is still a ban on Catholics joining Masonic Lodges. For its part, Freemasonry has never objected to Catholics joining their fraternity. Those Grand Lodges in amity with UGLE deny the Church's claims and state that they explicitly adhere to the principle that "Freemasonry is not a religion, nor a substitute for religion."[27]

In contrast to Catholic allegations of rationalism and naturalism, Protestant objections are more likely to be based on allegations of mysticism, occultism, and even Satanism.[66] Masonic scholar Albert Pike is often quoted (in some cases misquoted) by Protestant anti-Masons as an authority for the position of Masonry on these issues. However, Pike, although undoubtedly learned, was not a spokesman for Freemasonry and was controversial among Freemasons in general, representing his personal opinion only, and furthermore an opinion grounded in the attitudes and understandings of late 19th century Southern Freemasonry of the USA alone. Indeed his book carries in the preface a form of disclaimer from his own Grand Lodge. No one voice has ever spoken for the whole of Freemasonry.[67]


Emphasis added, realwest.

235 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:23:27pm

re: #224 Noam Sayin'

That's easy for you to say.

Well, it was easy to type. The last time I drank Chimay it was in the late afternoon and I was asleep within an hour.

236 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:23:47pm

re: #228 EmmmieG

Some folks will write that stuff down.

With CheDub and I, it's, "Ready, Fire, Aim!"

237 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:23:54pm

re: #230 mikalm

Less we forget the initiation process:
CROSSING THE DESERT: Being paddled on the butt
THE UNBLINKING EYE: Same as Crossing the Desert, only in reverse order.
WRECK OF THE HESPERUS: Same as The Unblinking Eye.
THE PADDLING OF THE SWOLLEN ASS...WITH PADDLES: A paddling of the swollen ass...with paddles.

238 Promethea  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:25:06pm

re: #138 Killian Bundy

Obama's Poet

Our soon to be president has chosen Elizabeth Alexander to write and read a poem for the inauguration. Alexander is a professor of African American studies at Yale.

/TFK writes better poetry

Blech ! ! !

239 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:25:25pm

re: #235 Shay4l

That's why you should always follow it up with bourbon, son.

240 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:26:19pm

re: #229 Salamantis

Is that you Louie?

241 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:26:46pm

re: #233 mikalm

Salamantis, you do realize that because you revealed that, I'm going to have to bury you headfirst in the mudflats of Lake Titicaca and have wolverines nibble you to death from the feet down?

Wolverines? In Peru/Bolivia? Yeah, right.

242 Fritz_Katz  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:27:14pm

re: #7 mikalm

I'm a former Lodge Junior Deacon, as well as a 32nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemason and a York Rite Knight Templar. So I've pretty much seen the entire Masonic world from the inside, and know all the "secrets" (not revealing anything here, but they essentially concern how we identify ourselves to each other.)

My question for Mr. Yahya: How the hell can we Freemasons run the world, if we can't even figure out how much to charge dues for our members?

"To Be One Ask One"... can I join? Would you recommend me?

-- Fritz Katz

243 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:27:35pm

re: #241 Occasional Reader

Wolverines? In Peru/Bolivia? Yeah, right.

How bout chupacabras?

244 Steffan  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:28:49pm

re: #9 Sean

Nirthers, Truthers, Bilderbergers, Freemasonry, ZOG...

When do I get to be in a conspiracy? It's just not fair!

Fnord.

245 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:28:57pm

re: #243 CheDub

How bout chupacabras?

Shhh! You want to receive Salamantis' treatment too?

246 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:29:23pm

re: #239 Noam Sayin'

Somehow, that post got me feeling like Foghorn Leghorn.

Are ya listenin' to me, Shay? I sa- I say, I keep a pitchin' 'em, and you keep a' missin' 'em.

Eyeball - joke, that is...

247 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:30:22pm

re: #243 CheDub
Yep, How bout them Chupacabras! They're 14-0 onliest unbeaten team in the NFL!

248 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:30:38pm

re: #239 Noam Sayin'

That's why you should always follow it up with bourbon, son.

Wish I had you around about '73 when I was larnin' to drink some.

249 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:30:54pm

re: #246 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! How are ya my friend?

250 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:31:14pm

re: #243 CheDub

How bout chupacabras?

They don't exist. Everyone knows they don't exist. So don't be ridiculous.


/meet me around back in 5 minutes and bring cash don't forget to bring muzzles

251 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:31:24pm

re: #246 Noam Sayin'

Somehow, that post got me feeling like Foghorn Leghorn.

Are ya listenin' to me, Shay? I sa- I say, I keep a pitchin' 'em, and you keep a' missin' 'em.

Eyeball - joke, that is...

Ah -- my favorite Warner Brothers 'toon character!

252 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:31:44pm

On page 94 Harun gets to the Masonic meaning of the six pointed star...

253 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:31:50pm

re: #246 Noam Sayin'

*goes off to read a book*

254 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:32:58pm

re: #229 Salamantis

Hey. Leave Grover Cleveland out of it.

He was a Bourban Democrat. And we could use a few more of them. :)

255 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:34:07pm
256 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:34:11pm

Hi all. Home from all Christmas, all the time theatre (rescue me, only two more days of this). Are we still on subject?

257 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:34:12pm
258 Occasional Reader  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:35:33pm

Buenas noches.

259 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:35:41pm

Jerry may be gone, but he is still selling his ties.

Perfect for the well-dressed Lizard on your Christmas shopping list.

260 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:36:00pm

re: #248 Shay4l

Wish I had you around about '73 when I was larnin' to drink some.

I was ten. But I'm Irish, so I could have shown you a thing or two.

261 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:36:35pm

re: #257 Iron Fist

Me, I'm a Cold Lager Classical Liberal.

262 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:36:50pm

re: #257 Iron Fist

I guess Teddy K is a scotch Democrat. Does that make Obama an eight-ball Democrat?

Maybe a Screw Ball? Or a Red Russian?

263 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:37:54pm

re: #259 ggt

Jerry may be gone, but he is still selling his ties.

Perfect for the well-dressed Lizard on your Christmas shopping list.

A coworker of mine used to work for the Jerry Garcia estate. He's got some amusing anecdotes, including one about having to transport this huge hoard of unique, live Dead/JGB tapes for hundreds of miles...

264 swamprat  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:38:06pm

re: #255 ggt


crossroads

265 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:38:11pm

re: #250 Occasional Reader

They don't exist. Everyone knows they don't exist. So don't be ridiculous.

/run little chupacabra, run!

266 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:39:43pm

re: #249 realwest

HEY NOAM! How are ya my friend?

Waitin' on your appearance, my brother. Got twisted up on a couple Belgian dupels after work, and trying to level off with a bourbon or two.

How much cannibus do the Belgians put in their beer, anyway?

267 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:39:48pm

re: #260 Noam Sayin'

I was ten. But I'm Irish, so I could have shown you a thing or two.

Irish?!?

No wonder you follow up your brew with whiskey.

You got it backwards, I say, you got it backwards, son!

268 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:39:49pm
269 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:40:26pm

bbib

270 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:40:49pm

re: #263 mikalm

A coworker of mine used to work for the Jerry Garcia estate. He's got some amusing anecdotes, including one about having to transport this huge hoard of unique, live Dead/JGB tapes for hundreds of miles...

I owned some of those ties, back when I bothered to wear ties.

271 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:41:08pm

re: #268 Iron Fist

I want one!

272 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:41:34pm

re: #253 CheDub

*goes off to read a book*

Damn. Can't find an "egghead" Leghorn clip.

273 experiencedtraveller  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:41:45pm

re: #257 Iron Fist

I guess Teddy K is a scotch Democrat. Does that make Obama an eight-ball Democrat?

Well, at this point, I wouldn't care what he does as long as it stiffens his spine.

274 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:42:53pm

re: #256 Walter L. Newton
Hey Walter - I don't think so, but it's hard to tell!
Long day, eh?

275 swamprat  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:43:12pm

re: #272 Noam Sayin'

under baseball

276 Salamantis  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:43:19pm

I've said too much...I hear an odd swishing sound, and strange footsteps on my roof. An unearthly light is leaking inside my windows. And dire wolves howl and whine and scratch at my door.

Remember me! And pray for my soul; I fear it's much too late for my body!

(wait...something's entered my room. It looks like...like...AARGGHHH! For the Blessed Mercy of Whatever Gods May Be!)

URP!

277 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:43:19pm

re: #266 Noam Sayin'

Waitin' on your appearance, my brother. Got twisted up on a couple Belgian dupels after work, and trying to level off with a bourbon or two.

How much cannibus do the Belgians put in their beer, anyway?

Heh...!

278 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:44:03pm

re: #266 Noam Sayin'
That be the brewmaster's secret Noam, you should know that!
You certainly sound in a mellow mood, though!

279 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:45:11pm

re: #268 Iron Fist

OK, somebody needs to get this for the Lizard clubhouse. It's a title 1 firearm, just like a regular rifle or pistol. And it'd be cheap at twice the price :-)

Santa, I've been really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really,
good this year!

280 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:45:25pm
281 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:45:47pm

re: #268 Iron Fist

Let's all go in on it.

282 hermit  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:46:01pm

re: #234 realwest

Emphasis added, realwest.

Took me a while, but here 'tis:

Since the Church began to declare her mind concerning Freemasonry, her negative judgment has been inspired by many reasons, both practical and doctrinal. She judged Freemasonry not merely responsible for subversive activity in her regard, but from the earliest pontifical documents on the subject and in particular in the Encyclical Humanum Genus by Leo XIII (20 April 1884), the Magisterium of the Church has denounced in Freemasonry philosophical ideas and moral conceptions opposed to Catholic doctrine. For Leo XIII, they essentially led back to a rationalistic naturalism, the inspiration of its plans and activities against the Church. In his Letter to the Italian people Custodi (8 December 1892), he wrote: «Let us remember that Christianity and Freemasonry are essentially irreconcilable, so that enrolment in one means separation from the other».


Dialogue between the two continues...

283 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:46:04pm

re: #268 Iron Fist
Good Lord, Fist, do we need ANOTHER Gatling gun?!
:)

284 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:47:36pm

re: #283 realwest

Good Lord, Fist, do we need ANOTHER Gatling gun?!
:)

good evening RW!

285 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:47:45pm

re: #283 realwest

Good Lord, Fist, do we need ANOTHER Gatling gun?!
:)

You guys been hiding a gatling gun on us?

286 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:47:59pm

re: #280 Iron Fist

If we get it, we need to play the 1812 overture while trying it out.

big pretty gun go boom

287 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:48:01pm
288 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:48:25pm

re: #286 EmmmieG


There was a sarc tag that disappeared. Or maybe I had it backwards again.

289 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:48:36pm

re: #277 mikalm
Holy Crap - there reall IS such a thing as Hemp Beer!
The things ya learn on LGF.

290 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:48:39pm

re: #280 Iron Fist

It really is a good deal. That's the prettiest Gatling I've ever seen. Someone has taken real good care of her. I'd be afraid to shoot it, though. Afraid I'd scuff the finish.

Then I'll shoot it.

We'll tie you up and make you watch.

/oh, but that was cruel

*ducks*

*runs*

291 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:50:01pm

re: #282 hermit

Several of my Lodge Brothers were Latino Catholics. One of them told me that he'd once asked his priest if it was okay to join a Masonic Lodge, and the padre told him, "That is fine, so long as you don't neglect your duties as a Catholic Christian." Then he asked the bishop, and he told him, "Do that, and you're excommunicated." That's common in the Roman Church -- the local prelates make allowances for their parishioners because they know them and can see a lot of gray areas in their ministries, while the pointy-hat guys enforce Church doctrine to the letter.

292 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:50:09pm

re: #282 hermit
"Dialogue between the two continues..."
How the hell did Obama get into this?!

293 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:50:19pm
294 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:50:19pm

re: #287 Iron Fist

No shit, the last time I ever did the "Santa" thing as a child I asked for a 20mm Vulcan cannon. Dude didn't know quite what to think. I guess I was eight years old or so.

Did you get counseling instead?
;-P

295 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:50:29pm

re: #272 Noam Sayin'

Damn. Can't find an "egghead" Leghorn clip.


Took awhile, but here's a whole clip...

296 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:51:00pm

re: #284 HoosierHoops
Good evening Hoops, how are you tonight?

297 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:51:17pm
298 Eowyn2  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:51:25pm

-24 outside
all of a sudden burkas look good.

299 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:51:33pm

re: #274 realwest

Hey Walter - I don't think so, but it's hard to tell!
Long day, eh?

You would not believe how the Christmas spirit does not extend to the organization that is bringing those people all that good Christmas cheer.

I don't know why, but, our patrons seem to get really snotty at this time of year, as if they deserve this Christmas entertainment.

Granted, they're paying for it, but they don't have to treat the staff and the facility like shit.

It happens every year.

300 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:51:46pm

re: #283 realwest

Good Lord, Fist, do we need ANOTHER Gatling gun?!
:)

Where in the by-laws does it say there is a limit on Gatling guns?

301 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:51:51pm

re: #285 Shay4l
Uh huh. Fist carries it under his arm, under his coat!
I just stagger along with the ammo!

302 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:52:12pm

re: #285 Shay4l

You guys been hiding a gatling gun on us?

That's like something I once heard from Rev. Ivan Stang of The Church of the SubGenius: "The Conspiracy has 20,000 nuclear warheads. We at the Church only have two. But we know where we're putting them!"

303 Russkilitlover  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:52:41pm

re: #267 Shay4l

Irish?!?

No wonder you follow up your brew with whiskey.

You got it backwards, I say, you got it backwards, son!

Liquor before beer, never fear. Beer before liquor, never sicker.

Words to live by...

304 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:53:03pm

re: #298 Eowyn2

Wool burkas, with fur lining.

--above freezing here, I'm just a wimp

305 Russkilitlover  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:53:48pm

re: #299 Walter L. Newton

You would not believe how the Christmas spirit does not extend to the organization that is bringing those people all that good Christmas cheer.

I don't know why, but, our patrons seem to get really snotty at this time of year, as if they deserve this Christmas entertainment.

Granted, they're paying for it, but they don't have to treat the staff and the facility like shit.

It happens every year.

Goes along with the honking of horns and shouting in mall parking lots. It just isn't Christmas until there is a near fist-fight for a parking spot.

306 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:54:39pm

re: #286 EmmmieG
Gee, sorry EmmmieG, it's "big pretty gun go boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom
until realwest runs outta ammo - sorry Fist!

307 Eowyn2  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:54:51pm

re: #304 EmmmieG

Wool burkas, with fur lining.

--above freezing here, I'm just a wimp

double fur and whale blubber lining.

308 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:54:56pm

re: #289 realwest

hey RW! You gonna order some of that Hemp Beer?

How you doin' tonite?

309 hermit  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:55:34pm

re: #291 mikalm

... the local prelates make allowances for their parishioners because they know them and can see a lot of gray areas in their ministries, while the pointy-hat guys enforce Church doctrine to the letter.

God Bless the Good Shepherds out there...I've never had to investigate this concept. It appears to be a very old misunderstanding between two global brotherhoods. Looks like a battle for allegiance...but the link I put was worthwhile for me to read...
/most days it's good to be a hermit - church politics sux

310 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:56:04pm

re: #305 Russkilitlover

Goes along with the honking of horns and shouting in mall parking lots. It just isn't Christmas until there is a near fist-fight for a parking spot.

I wish I could just use a paintball gun from the control booth. If I see any patron acting like a shithead, plop.

311 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:56:06pm

re: #287 Iron Fist
Didja get it? I mean at age 8 you musta been a good boy all a lot some of the time!

312 Eowyn2  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:56:16pm

Everyone have a safe and happy weekend.
stay warm
sleep tight
dont let the bed bugs bite

313 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:56:30pm

re: #299 Walter L. Newton

You would not believe how the Christmas spirit does not extend to the organization that is bringing those people all that good Christmas cheer.

I don't know why, but, our patrons seem to get really snotty at this time of year, as if they deserve this Christmas entertainment.

Granted, they're paying for it, but they don't have to treat the staff and the facility like shit.

It happens every year.

I want my Christmas and I want it now DAMNIT!
Or do I need to speak to your manager?

314 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:56:43pm

re: #305 Russkilitlover

Yeah, I hate being cynical about the season, but you do see a lot of bad behavior this time of year. People just let the pressures get the best of them. Me, I try to be on especially good behavior, partly to offset this, and partly because I never really lost the magic spirit of Christmas I picked up in childhood, and always enjoy indulging my Inner Kid around now.

315 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:56:45pm

re: #306 realwest

yeah, I'd overheat that thing 5 minutes after getting it

316 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:56:51pm

re: #299 Walter L. Newton

You would not believe how the Christmas spirit does not extend to the organization that is bringing those people all that good Christmas cheer.

I don't know why, but, our patrons seem to get really snotty at this time of year, as if they deserve this Christmas entertainment.

Granted, they're paying for it, but they don't have to treat the staff and the facility like shit.

It happens every year.

So many Scrooges, so few spirits of Xmas to visit them

317 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:57:05pm

re: #290 Noam Sayin'
"RUN FASTER NOAM "! NO, MUCH FASTER, that's Fist chasing ya!

318 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:57:07pm

re: #309 hermit

God Bless the Good Shepherds out there...I've never had to investigate this concept. It appears to be a very old misunderstanding between two global brotherhoods. Looks like a battle for allegiance...but the link I put was worthwhile for me to read...
/most days it's good to be a hermit - church politics sux

How can you be a hermit if you are communicating with Lizards?
/

319 Russkilitlover  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:57:24pm

re: #310 Walter L. Newton

I wish I could just use a paintball gun from the control booth. If I see any patron acting like a shithead, plop.

I ran the customer service department of a national homebuilder for 9 years. Believe me, I know shitheads.

320 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:57:25pm
321 hermit  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:57:42pm

re: #313 jcm

I want my Christmas and I want it now DAMNIT!
Or do I need to speak to your manager manger?

Talk to the Guy in the Manger!

322 Eowyn2  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:58:06pm

re: #299 Walter L. Newton

You would not believe how the Christmas spirit does not extend to the organization that is bringing those people all that good Christmas cheer.

I don't know why, but, our patrons seem to get really snotty at this time of year, as if they deserve this Christmas entertainment.

Granted, they're paying for it, but they don't have to treat the staff and the facility like shit.

It happens every year.

there's no Christ in Assshoole.
One of your patrons, somewhere in the audience, was smiling, and loving every minute of the show. and pre-show dinner

323 Salamantis  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:58:41pm

T H I S I S S A L A M A N T I S. A L L H E T O L D Y O U I S A L I E . T H E R E A R E N O D A R K S E C R E T S F O R H I M T O F O O L I S H L Y L E T S L I P . I T I S B E S T F O R Y O U T H A T Y O U F O R G E T A L L T H A T Y O U H E A R D F R O M H I M . A N D F O R G E T T H A T T H E H U M A N S A L A M A N T I S E V E R E X I S T E D. O R I T W I L L N O T G O W E L L F O R Y O U.

T Y P I N G W I T H T E N T A C L E S I S A B I T C H .

324 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:59:32pm

re: #286 EmmmieG

If we get it, we need to play the 1812 overture while trying it out.

big pretty gun go boom

1812 needs some 155s (okay those are 105s), Gatling's just a little pop.

325 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:59:34pm

re: #323 Salamantis

Yog, I think.

326 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:59:36pm

re: #295 CheDub

Took awhile, but here's a whole clip...

"No. I better not look. I might be in there."

Haven't seen that clip in years. Thanks for the laugh.

327 hermit  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:59:44pm

re: #318 Walter L. Newton

How can you be a hermit if you are communicating with Lizards?
/

Self-appointed. I kinda make up my own rules - heh.

/okay, really wanted to put "Hand Signals?"

328 HoosierHoops  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 9:59:55pm

re: #296 realwest

Good evening Hoops, how are you tonight?

Good evening my friend...Did you read this morning where I almost got into a fist fight at our colts party last night?
Crap.that never happens.. A friend of a friend came over and said some shit.
I'm still jacked up about it and 1 am the next day

329 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:00:02pm

re: #309 hermit

God Bless the Good Shepherds out there...I've never had to investigate this concept. It appears to be a very old misunderstanding between two global brotherhoods. Looks like a battle for allegiance...but the link I put was worthwhile for me to read...
/most days it's good to be a hermit - church politics sux

Just human nature, my friend. It's always the five percent of professional politicians and agenda-addicts screwing things up for the rest of us. The Church, whether in its Roman, Orthodox, Anglican or Protestant varieties, is still a human institution (despite its divine origins), so a certain amount of this is just unavoidable.

330 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:00:20pm

re: #321 hermit

Talk to the Guy in the Manger!

ROFL! Excellent!

331 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:00:23pm

re: #323 Salamantis

I had no problem reading that.

Try harder

332 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:00:38pm

re: #291 mikalm
Isn't that what the pointy-hat guys do?!?

333 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:00:47pm

Just don't anyone let slip about the sekret lizard signs, not even to the hatchlings...

334 Russkilitlover  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:00:54pm

re: #331 Shay4l

I had no problem reading that.

Try harder

Could be the beer and whiskey, just sayin' ;)

335 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:02:19pm

re: #286 EmmmieG

If we get it, we need to play the 1812 overture while trying it out.

big pretty gun go boom

Actually, we have cannons for that.

We still have the cannons, don't we Fist?

336 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:02:36pm

re: #299 Walter L. Newton
WOW, Walter I'm really surprised to "hear" that! Why would they want to treat the staff and facility like shit?
Too much imbibing of "holiday cheer" maybe? And what is it that they do to the facility and how do they act to the staff to earn your scorn?

337 Shay4l  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:03:20pm

re: #328 HoosierHoops

Nothing is worse than almost solving something...it gnaws at one.

Good night all.

338 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:03:30pm

re: #300 Noam Sayin'
Well it doesn't - less you count a Gatling Gun as an assault rifle!
;')

339 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:03:35pm

re: #313 jcm

I want my Christmas and I want it now DAMNIT!
Or do I need to speak to your manager?

re: #316 Shay4l

So many Scrooges, so few spirits of Xmas to visit them

LOL.

Our stage is surrounded by audience on three sides. The are two aisles, and a 2 foot high knee wall around the stage on those three side. Two openings in the knee wall at the ends of the aisles enable actors to make entrances down the aisle and walk onto the stage.

We put velvet ropes up across those openings, so the audience who are seating do not walk across the stage to get to another part of the theatre.

We also stations two ushers in the room, at the end of the aisle.

Do you think that stops anyone? You would be surprised how many people who try to step over the velvet ropes, so they can walk across the stage. And they manage to do it.

And if you try to stop them, they give you a look like you just called them satan or something.

/I've given the ushers permission to body slam the patrons any time they want

340 hermit  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:03:56pm

re: #332 realwest

Isn't that what the pointy-hat guys do?!?

...and some of them prove that even the body of christ has an a**hole

/I am so gettin' whacked for that

341 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:04:20pm

re: #332 realwest

Yup, that's their job, among other things.

342 hermit  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:05:12pm

re: #341 mikalm

PERFECT timing! LOL

343 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:05:33pm

re: #317 realwest

"RUN FASTER NOAM "! NO, MUCH FASTER, that's Fist chasing ya!

It's not so much the running away from Fist. It's the Z-pattern you have to make to ensure he can't get a bead on ya.

Keep the Gatling gun out of his hands until I get out of sight.

344 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:05:40pm

re: #305 Russkilitlover
"Goes along with the honking of horns and shouting in mall parking lots. It just isn't Christmas until there is a near fist-fight for a parking spot."
There! Fixed that for ya!
Now you know why I do MOST of my Christmas shopping by catalog.

345 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:06:15pm

re: #322 Eowyn2

there's no Christ in Assshoole.
One of your patrons, somewhere in the audience, was smiling, and loving every minute of the show. and pre-show dinner

I know, but at the same time, this isn't a biker's bar (although we do have a full service bar).

346 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:06:19pm

re: #340 hermit

...and some of them prove that even the body of christ has an a**hole

/I am so gettin' whacked for that

Not necessarily, Hermit. No less a figure than St. John Chrysostom said, way back around 400 A.D., "the streets of Hell are paved with the skulls of bishops."

347 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:06:33pm

Mice suspected in deadly cat fire

Mice may be responsible for a blaze that killed nearly 100 cats at an animal shelter near the Canadian city of Toronto, officials say.

The fire at the humane society shelter in Oshawa also killed three dogs and some rats that were up for adoption.

An initial report from the fire marshal says mice or rats chewing through electrical wires in the ceiling are likely to have sparked the blaze.

/mighty brave seeing as how the cats were in cages

348 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:06:35pm

UFO sightings...


Or Flare Chutes?

349 hermit  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:06:48pm

re: #343 Noam Sayin'

It's not so much the running away from Fist. It's the Z-pattern you have to make to ensure he can't get a bead on ya.

SERPENTINE!

/Alan Arkin - The In-Laws

350 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:06:54pm

re: #308 ggt
Hi ya ggt - nope, non-drinking alcoholic here, gonna have to find some other way to get that cannib...uh, well y'all know what I mean!
How are you doing?

351 Randall Gross  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:08:32pm

Time for me to get some sleeps

Chris Isaak - Heart Full of Soul

352 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:08:42pm

re: #312 Eowyn2
Good night, sleep well!

353 hermit  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:09:04pm
354 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:09:23pm

re: #339 Walter L. Newton

That must have been a pretty surly audience indeed. At every concert or play I've ever attended, from tiny basement twenty-seaters to football stadiums, attendees have treated the stage as near-sacred ground and rarely even touch the risers. The only exceptions I can think of have been punk rock shows, where you get the stage-diving and similar antics.

355 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:09:25pm

re: #313 jcm
ROTFL! Hey jcm, how are ya doing tonight?

356 Russkilitlover  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:09:48pm

re: #353 hermit

Now there's a twist...

The Revenge of Mickey!

357 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:10:45pm

re: #314 mikalm
Just remember my life motto: It's never too late to have a happy childhood!

358 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:11:53pm

re: #303 Russkilitlover

Liquor before beer, never fear. Beer before liquor, never sicker.

Words to live by...

You forget. I'm Irish.

All you want is in the eye. All you need is in the pint.

(Angela's Ashes)

359 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:12:08pm

re: #355 realwest

ROTFL! Hey jcm, how are ya doing tonight?

Pretty good, chicken out and stayed home today.
With roads like this, seems like a good call.

360 Teacake!  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:12:51pm

Hey guys, just wanted to tell anyone who recalls my asking about a computer recommendation... mainly because my customer service experience has been amazing!

I got a LENOVO desk top at circuit city but the hard drive turned out to be fucked up... they were less than helpful when I called. HOWEVER, after a few calls to customer service with Lenovo, who were so patient and so very helpful trying to figure out what the problem was, when they decided it was the hard drive they have scheduled someone to COME TO MY HOME to replace the part! Unbelievable! I've never had service like this ever. Just wanted to recommend them.

361 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:12:52pm

re: #315 CheDub
No shit. I'd just love to fire a few dozen rounds through it though.
Don't know where the hell we'd get the ammo, though.
BTW, did you notice it was built sorta like an old time cannon on a wheeled carriage? Can you imagine trying to swing that sucker left to right or vice-versa while it's firing?!

362 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:13:05pm

re: #357 realwest

Just remember my life motto: It's never too late to have a happy childhood!

Amen. Then again, I never really grew up completely!

363 Teacake!  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:14:03pm
realwest
re: #314 mikalm
Just remember my life motto: It's never too late to have a happy childhood!

Unless you are Michael Jackson.

364 Aye Pod  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:14:49pm

For fans of strangely mellow home-made cgi christmas cards...merry xmas.

365 mikalm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:15:15pm

Gotta run, Lizards. Hope you're all enjoying the Holiday Season, whatever your faith (or lack thereof) -- see ya soon!

366 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:15:36pm

re: #324 jcm
Uh, with all due respect my friend but that "Gatling's just a little pop." ain't true if it's aimed in your direction!

367 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:16:05pm

re: #361 realwest

No thanks, I'll just fire it in one general direction and hope the enemy is dumb enough to walk in front of it.

368 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:16:26pm

Harun Yahya hates and fears Masons.

Cockroaches shun the light.

Coincidence? I think not!

369 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:17:15pm

re: #323 Salamantis
ROTFLAMO!
Now where'd I put that atomic harpoon - I just know I can get Sal outta there if I act SOON!

370 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:17:32pm

re: #361 realwest

No shit. I'd just love to fire a few dozen rounds through it though.
Don't know where the hell we'd get the ammo, though.
BTW, did you notice it was built sorta like an old time cannon on a wheeled carriage? Can you imagine trying to swing that sucker left to right or vice-versa while it's firing?!

Down at the bottom in this image, where the brass meets the black mounting. A chrome handle on the left side, most likely locks the gun for transport, loosen it up and it will rotate.

371 hermit  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:17:48pm

re: #365 mikalm

G'nite mikalm! I'm out, too. Headed back into the cave for the night!
Peace/Shalom to the Lizards!

372 kynna  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:17:51pm

Weren't the Freemasons and Skull and Bones supposed to be somehow connected -- in some Illuminati web of cunning and power? Back when GWB was running against Gore and S&B was supposed to be this wicked, evil cult. Then Jenjiss vs GWB made it two S&B alums and suddenly ... it's just a club.

LOL!

373 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:18:09pm

re: #347 Killian Bundy

Yeah, see, they wouldn't dare if the Cat Overlords were running loose. Even so, Cat Overlords don't need cell phones to communicate with each other. I'm thinking officials in Canada are going to be finding the bodies of dead mice for months. All of the deaths will seem to be of natural causes, but we know better.

374 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:18:16pm

re: #366 realwest

Uh, with all due respect my friend but that "Gatling's just a little pop." ain't true if it's aimed in your direction!

For the 1812 it's a little pop. The 1812 you need a really big BOOM!

375 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:18:53pm

re: #371 hermit

G'nite mikalm! I'm out, too. Headed back into the cave for the night!
Peace/Shalom to the Lizards!

G'night you 2!

376 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:19:39pm

re: #328 HoosierHoops
Huh, no I didn't - only thing I heard from you was that you were eating leftovers this morning! What happened? Did you have to *whack* him?!

377 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:20:15pm

Back again.My girlfriend called, she was at her companies little Christmas party and she called me from the parking lot half crying. She forgot where she parked her car.

All fixed now.

378 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:20:28pm

Hey RW, did you see my #308?

379 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:20:43pm

re: #337 Shay4l
Good night, sleep well!

380 FamHistoryGuy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:20:54pm

re: #283 realwest

It is never about need!

381 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:21:18pm

re: #378 ggt

never mind, my bad.

/keep getting interrupted by the laundry.

382 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:22:20pm

G'nite gracie. As tomorrow is Saturday, kids will get up before the sun.

383 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:22:47pm

re: #381 ggt

never mind, my bad.

/keep getting interrupted by the laundry.

Wow, your laundry must really be ripe.

384 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:22:57pm
385 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:23:53pm

re: #381 ggt

never mind, my bad.

/keep getting interrupted by the laundry.

What?
Does it walk in on it's own and ask to be washed?

You need to change more often!

;-P

386 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:25:02pm

re: #385 jcm

What?
Does it walk in on it's own and ask to be washed?

You need to change more often!

;-P

Well, sometimes, if it comes from the teenager's room.

LOL

387 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:25:20pm

re: #385 jcm

GMTA... I beat you to it in re: #383 Walter L. Newton

388 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:25:48pm

re: #339 Walter L. Newton
Geez Walter: "I've given the ushers permission to body slam the patrons any time they want" that wouldn't appear to me to be the way to attract audiences!
Seriously though, I can see how that'd piss you off; too bad you can't put a sold gate in there instead of the velvet rope and only unlock it after the performance starts. Somebody tries to walk across the stage while the performance is going on, SHOOT 'EM!

389 FamHistoryGuy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:25:48pm

re: #294 jcm

In the mid 70's I ran the evening shift in an F-15 gun shop. Got to dis-assemble, inspect, repair and re-assemble the M-61.

390 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:26:12pm

re: #385 jcm

What?
Does it walk in on it's own and ask to be washed?

You need to change more often!

;-P

That was the first image I got, this really nasty looking shirt sleeve tapping him on the shoulder "wash me."

391 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:26:18pm

re: #384 Iron Fist

Strangely enough, but that pretty much is how you use a gatling. One cool little toy I've seen was a tripple mount for 7.62 Miniguns. It was on a big tripod, and could fire any one of the guns independantly, or all three of them together.

I never got to see it fired, but it really made an impression just sitting there. Load a tracer every fifth round or so, and I'm sure it would be quite the sight. It was the neatest weapon in the whole show. This was at the 1994 Soldier of Fortune convention. Lots of exotic toys. Sarah Brady would shit herself if she ever saw it.

Miniguns ROCK!

392 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:26:36pm

re: #383 Walter L. Newton

Yep, something happened over the summer (son's 13th birthday). I walked into his room one day and --geeeshhh. I ended-up giving him a lecture about removing his dirty clothing from the room daily and gave him an air freshener.

LOL

393 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:26:44pm

re: #387 Walter L. Newton

GMTA... I beat you to it in re: #383 Walter L. Newton

LOL!

394 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:27:35pm

re: #390 Walter L. Newton

That was the first image I got, this really nasty looking shirt sleeve tapping him on the shoulder "wash me."

been having some of that Hemp Beer?

:0

395 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:27:56pm

re: #343 Noam Sayin'
"Keep the Gatling gun out of his hands until I get out of sight."
Me? Keep the Gatling gun out of Iron Fist's hands? No way - I love ya like a brother but I ain't that stupid!

396 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:28:24pm

re: #388 realwest

Geez Walter: "I've given the ushers permission to body slam the patrons any time they want" that wouldn't appear to me to be the way to attract audiences!
Seriously though, I can see how that'd piss you off; too bad you can't put a sold gate in there instead of the velvet rope and only unlock it after the performance starts. Somebody tries to walk across the stage while the performance is going on, SHOOT 'EM!

It's never happen during a show, just pre-show, when they are trying to seat.

I once had a woman, at intermission, walk up on stage, grab an afghan that was on the set, brought it back to her seat and curled it around her legs. And this was a 30's something woman.

397 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:28:43pm

mY FAVE Chris ISAAK

398 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:29:25pm

re: #394 ggt

been having some of that Hemp Beer?

:0

Don't drink anymore. And when I was, my evening intake was a 6 pack of Mickeys and 2 pints of Southern and coke.

399 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:29:27pm

re: #396 Walter L. Newton

I'm thinking alcohol plays a part in this type of behavior?

400 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:30:00pm

re: #398 Walter L. Newton

me neither, just coffee and lots of it.

401 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:31:34pm

re: #399 ggt

I'm thinking alcohol plays a part in this type of behavior?

We have a fully stocked bar, beer, wine and hard stuff. But no, we rarely have really tipsy folk. An average bar take with 80 patrons will be under 200 dollars.

402 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:32:32pm

re: #348 jcm
Gee, I dunno - wonder if it was cloudy over the Midlands only where those UFO's were or cloudy generally?!

403 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:32:37pm
404 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:33:43pm

Clearly, we need another Gatling gun.

I mean, honestly. We have M240s all over the place. Look. This one's holding up the end of the bar! Can we get a carpenter in here to fix this? Maybe Sage can work off my bar tab. It's his Mezcal I'm drinking, anyway.

G'night, y'all.

405 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:34:34pm
406 Steve  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:35:26pm

As long as there is ranting going on
pachelbel rant

407 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:35:40pm

re: #403 jcm

MYTHBUSTERS FIRING MINIGUN...

Even better, it's loaded in a (I assume) street legal SUV! Perfect for rush hour!

408 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:36:11pm

Going to be zero degrees (F) when I wake up in the morning. And a chilly -7 Sat. night.

High each day this weekend, 15.

Yay... cuddle weather.

409 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:36:43pm

re: #359 jcm
Holy crap! I wouldn't say you were a chicken for staying home on a night with roads like that! I'd say you were smart as hell!
Can you IMAGINE what the passengers in those two busses - and especially the front passengers in the bus
on the left were thinking?!

410 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:36:44pm

re: #407 CheDub

Even better, it's loaded in a (I assume) street legal SUV! Perfect for rush hour!

Or bothersome theatre patrons.

411 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:36:45pm

re: #404 Noam Sayin'

Chau luego, Noam!

412 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:37:21pm

re: #402 realwest

Gee, I dunno - wonder if it was cloudy over the Midlands only where those UFO's were or cloudy generally?!

The Cloud Elders!

413 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:37:53pm

re: #409 realwest

Holy crap! I wouldn't say you were a chicken for staying home on a night with roads like that! I'd say you were smart as hell!
Can you IMAGINE what the passengers in those two busses - and especially the front passengers in the bus
on the left were thinking?!

"Did I pack clean underwear?"

414 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:38:17pm
415 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:38:24pm

re: #360 Teacake!
That IS amazing! Uh, what's a LENVO? Not putting you on or down, but don't think I've ever seen one - ya don't by any chance have a link to one do ya?!

416 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:38:31pm

Minigun is sooo old school.

New hottness! Metalstorm!

417 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:38:35pm

re: #409 realwest

Holy crap! I wouldn't say you were a chicken for staying home on a night with roads like that! I'd say you were smart as hell!
Can you IMAGINE what the passengers in those two busses - and especially the front passengers in the bus
on the left were thinking?!

Actually, it's not to hard to imagine what they were thinking cause the local stations having been playing interviews of the passengers during most of the newscasts...pretty much everyone thought they were going to die until they were completely out of the bus.

418 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:38:39pm

re: #412 jcm

The Cloud Elders!

JCM, where was that video taken? Midlands, where is that?

419 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:40:18pm

re: #415 realwest

That IS amazing! Uh, what's a LENVO? Not putting you on or down, but don't think I've ever seen one - ya don't by any chance have a link to one do ya?!

Lenovo, IBM sold off it's PC division, a Taiwan out fit bought it out.

420 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:40:32pm

re: #364 Jimmah
Waay cool! Thanks!

421 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:40:55pm

re: #418 Walter L. Newton

JCM, where was that video taken? Midlands, where is that?

Midlands, England I believe.

422 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:41:44pm
423 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:42:13pm

re: #367 CheDub Nice. Did you see any kind of swivel on it?

424 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:42:20pm

Fist!

Check this puppy out.

Scale Ma Deuce in .22!

425 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:43:04pm

re: #421 jcm

Midlands, England I believe.

Well, those object were not flying to start with, more like UDF, unidentified drifting objects.

People are so not aware of what they are looking at. If I had saw that, I certainly wouldn't have thought I was watching a control craft.

426 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:43:48pm

re: #423 realwest

Nice. Did you see any kind of swivel on it?

I think so.

re: #370 jcm

Down at the bottom in this image, where the brass meets the black mounting. A chrome handle on the left side, most likely locks the gun for transport, loosen it up and it will rotate.

427 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:43:57pm

re: #424 jcm

Fist!

Check this puppy out.

Scale Ma Deuce in .22!

That wasn't a puppy. I wanted to see a puppy. where's my puppy? (stamping feet)

428 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:44:51pm

re: #423 realwest

Check out JCM's post, #370

429 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:44:58pm

re: #370 jcm Well you could be right about that, but it looked to me like something to control elevation - I mean look how close those boxes and wheels are - where the hell is the guy firing it supposed to stand?!

430 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:45:05pm

re: #425 Walter L. Newton

Well, those object were not flying to start with, more like UDF, unidentified drifting objects.

People are so not aware of what they are looking at. If I had saw that, I certainly wouldn't have thought I was watching a control craft.

UDO's (I'm tired) UDF is a programing term "user defined function"

431 Aye Pod  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:45:09pm

re: #420 realwest

Cheers. I get creative sometimes - usually about twice a year...lol

432 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:45:23pm

re: #425 Walter L. Newton

Well, those object were not flying to start with, more like UDF, unidentified drifting objects.

People are so not aware of what they are looking at. If I had saw that, I certainly wouldn't have thought I was watching a control craft.

The pattern, that slow drifting angle is typical of chute flares.

The big Phoenix UFO is another one.

433 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:46:44pm

re: #429 realwest

Well you could be right about that, but it looked to me like something to control elevation - I mean look how close those boxes and wheels are - where the hell is the guy firing it supposed to stand?!

Elevation is on the pivot up in the yoke (the Y shaped part). There's another locking handle up on that.

434 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:47:15pm

re: #432 jcm

The pattern, that slow drifting angle is typical of chute flares.

The big Phoenix UFO is another one.

I know, I've seen that one over and over. It could also be radar confusing chaff released from a military aircraft.

But the drifting pattern, starting out in a line that gently drifted apart, no, not a controlled craft.

435 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:47:41pm

re: #378 ggt
Yep! Did you see my #350?!

436 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:47:42pm

re: #430 Walter L. Newton

UDO's (I'm tired) UDF is a programing term "user defined function"

Micheal Moore sunbathing is a UFO.

Unidentified Frying Object.

437 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:48:26pm

re: #432 jcm

The pattern, that slow drifting angle is typical of chute flares.

The big Phoenix UFO is another one.

And if I remember, the Phoenix sighting was proven to be a hoax, many months after the fact. I may be wrong.

438 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:48:53pm

re: #434 Walter L. Newton

I know, I've seen that one over and over. It could also be radar confusing chaff released from a military aircraft.

But the drifting pattern, starting out in a line that gently drifted apart, no, not a controlled craft.

When I was stationed at the Air Force Academy, Fort Carson was due South. used to sit up at night, drink beer and watch the flared during night exercises.

439 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:49:36pm
440 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:50:03pm

re: #437 Walter L. Newton

And if I remember, the Phoenix sighting was proven to be a hoax, many months after the fact. I may be wrong.

Yep... in this case flares on ballons.

441 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:50:44pm

re: #438 jcm

When I was stationed at the Air Force Academy, Fort Carson was due South. used to sit up at night, drink beer and watch the flared during night exercises.

I love seeing the jets, flying in the valley, west of I25 in the Springs at the AFA. You can watch them as you drive down the interstate. That valley is much wider than it looks, and those planes look like little toys.

442 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:51:07pm

re: #416 jcm

Minigun is sooo old school.

New hottness! Metalstorm!

/nice, so long as you have to hump the ammon for ti

443 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:51:17pm

re: #439 Iron Fist

Damn! But that thing probably runs as much as a semi-auto one in .50 would run. A local gun store around here had a semi M2 with a couple of thousand APIT rounds for sale this summer. They only wanted $24 grand for it. It sold so damn fast I didn't even make it down to the store to scope it out.

I'd love to have one, but I don't have a room in my house big enough to actually set it up. I've never gotten to shoot an M2. i've done Barretts, and they are way cool, but the M2 is such a classic. They have one for rent at Knob Creek. IIRC it was $300 for either a fifty round belt or a hundred round belt. You could shoot it in smaller quantities, but it just wouldn't be the same.

I did get to shoot an M-60 light machinegun. It was like $50 for a hundred round belt. It was money well spent.

If we won the lotto we'd be broke in a hurry but have one hell of a gun room!

444 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:52:23pm

re: #442 Killian Bundy

ammon for ti ammo for it

/it's a [expletive deleted] spellcheck conspiracy!

445 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:52:39pm

re: #439 Iron Fist

Some more info/pics that may be helpful...

446 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:52:48pm

re: #442 Killian Bundy

/nice, so long as you have to hump the ammon for ti

Not a problem, he'll carry it.

447 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:54:07pm

re: #391 jcm
WHOA! Hey check this out, next time someone asks how well can the POTUS be protected in a motorcade:

448 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:54:45pm

re: #440 jcm

Yep... in this case flares on ballons.

I don't keep up with that stuff anymore. I use to have a once a month, over night talk show on KRLD, Dallas, which I co-hosted with a female psychic. This was back in the 70's. KRLD was a 50 thousand watt station, so we reached all around the southwest.

It was a riot having the cowboys call from west Texas or New Mexico. They were always seeing something in the sky.

It's amazing how those sightings that people called in about were with in a 1/2 hour after the bars closed at 2:00am.

449 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:55:53pm

re: #396 Walter L. Newton
What?!? Took it offstage and wrapped it around herself? What did ya do?

450 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:56:26pm

re: #446 jcm

Not a problem, he'll carry it.

[Expletive deleted], could it be any louder?

/you can hear that thing coming for miles

451 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:57:05pm

re: #427 Walter L. Newton

puppy!

452 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:57:33pm

re: #448 Walter L. Newton

I don't keep up with that stuff anymore. I use to have a once a month, over night talk show on KRLD, Dallas, which I co-hosted with a female psychic. This was back in the 70's. KRLD was a 50 thousand watt station, so we reached all around the southwest.

It was a riot having the cowboys call from west Texas or New Mexico. They were always seeing something in the sky.

It's amazing how those sightings that people called in about were with in a 1/2 hour after the bars closed at 2:00am.

I had a "sighting" a few months ago. Driving home Venus seemed much brighter than normal. Suddenly Venus split and one part took off to the right and the other stayed put.

After a momentary WTF? I realized a plane on the downwind leg was directly inline between Venus and me. When the plane turned onto the base leg, Venus "split."

453 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:57:37pm

re: #449 realwest

What?!? Took it offstage and wrapped it around herself? What did ya do?

I walked up to her and asked for it back, and then I put it back on the set. You got to put on a happy face and just grin and bear it.

Or come home and whine about it on LGF, like me.

454 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:58:00pm

re: #450 Killian Bundy

[Expletive deleted], could it be any louder?

/you can hear that thing coming for miles

Miniature nuclear reactor will fix that!

455 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 10:58:02pm

re: #435 realwest

Yep! Did you see my #350?!

i DID, but the landry interrupted me.

456 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:00:02pm

Speaking of the laundry, it's finished and I can go to bed.

weet dreams all!

How many of you are going to be dreaming of little gattling guns dancing like sugarplum fairies?

457 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:00:09pm

re: #404 Noam Sayin'
Good night Noam! Sleep well my friend.

458 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:00:14pm
459 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:00:30pm

re: #452 jcm

I had a "sighting" a few months ago. Driving home Venus seemed much brighter than normal. Suddenly Venus split and one part took off to the right and the other stayed put.

After a momentary WTF? I realized a plane on the downwind leg was directly inline between Venus and me. When the plane turned onto the base leg, Venus "split."

When I was keeping up with UFOlogy, I preferred the term UAO. Unidentified Aerial Object. Flying indicates control, and unless you can prove there is something controlling something you see in the sky, then you don't know.

UAO cover a broader range of sightings, and is a more accurate term.

460 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:00:48pm
461 ggt  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:01:00pm

re: #456 ggt


How many of you are going to be dreaming of little gattling guns dancing like sugarplum fairies?

would that be THE true definition of weet dreams? (sweet and wet combined?)

:0

462 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:01:19pm

re: #448 Walter L. Newton

I don't keep up with that stuff anymore. I use to have a once a month, over night talk show on KRLD, Dallas, which I co-hosted with a female psychic. This was back in the 70's. KRLD was a 50 thousand watt station, so we reached all around the southwest.

It was a riot having the cowboys call from west Texas or New Mexico. They were always seeing something in the sky.

It's amazing how those sightings that people called in about were with in a 1/2 hour after the bars closed at 2:00am.

Walter, I posted an offer to you on another thread about a week ago, but I think you'd already left. Would you like a specimen of mid-Devonian stromatoporoid reef rock? From the Kee Scarp Formation at Norman Wells, NWT, this is the stuff that makes up the reservoir rock of the oilfield there. Stroms aren't very showy fossils, but in this case they are economically significant.

463 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:02:34pm

70-90mph gusts tomorrow with more snow?! Are you effin kidding me?
*checks liquor cabinet*
Ok, we're good.

464 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:02:43pm
465 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:03:00pm

re: #416 jcm
Holy crap.
Hope Fist doesn't see that or that'll be what he REALLY wants for Christmas! LOL!

466 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:03:53pm

re: #462 Alberta Oil Peon

Walter, I posted an offer to you on another thread about a week ago, but I think you'd already left. Would you like a specimen of mid-Devonian stromatoporoid reef rock? From the Kee Scarp Formation at Norman Wells, NWT, this is the stuff that makes up the reservoir rock of the oilfield there. Stroms aren't very showy fossils, but in this case they are economically significant.

Yes, and I know what they are. Very interesting. I read an article sometime in the last year.

If you click on my name, you will see my address. I will compensate in return and send you some meteorite samples and some reading material on meteorites.

(I thought we already talked about this?)

467 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:03:57pm

re: #418 Walter L. Newton
England I think, Walter.

468 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:04:41pm

re: #467 realwest

England I think, Walter.

Thanks.

469 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:05:05pm

re: #439 Iron Fist

Damn! But that thing probably runs as much as a semi-auto one in .50 would run. A local gun store around here had a semi M2 with a couple of thousand APIT rounds for sale this summer. They only wanted $24 grand for it. It sold so damn fast I didn't even make it down to the store to scope it out.

I'd love to have one, but I don't have a room in my house big enough to actually set it up. I've never gotten to shoot an M2. i've done Barretts, and they are way cool, but the M2 is such a classic. They have one for rent at Knob Creek. IIRC it was $300 for either a fifty round belt or a hundred round belt. You could shoot it in smaller quantities, but it just wouldn't be the same.

I did get to shoot an M-60 light machinegun. It was like $50 for a hundred round belt. It was money well spent.

glad i was in the Guard then... the 50 is fun as hell, but a bitch to carry and clean.

i was state champ 3 years running with the 60. firing stuff like that is what i miss most about being out. living indoors with a soft bed, warm wife and flush plumbing are what i like best about being out. %-)

as for weapons i wish i'd bought when i had the chance, a few years back Shotgun News had an ad for NIB ChiCom flame throwers, no paperw*rk needed... i didn't get one. %-(

470 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:05:07pm

re: #459 Walter L. Newton

When I was keeping up with UFOlogy, I preferred the term UAO. Unidentified Aerial Object. Flying indicates control, and unless you can prove there is something controlling something you see in the sky, then you don't know.

UAO cover a broader range of sightings, and is a more accurate term.

It is. I'm agnostic on the whole thing, possible but I haven't seen anything convincing. Some sighting are are a puzzle, but like so much, nothing solid.

471 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:05:51pm

re: #463 CheDub

70-90mph gusts tomorrow with more snow?! Are you effin kidding me?
*checks liquor cabinet*
Ok, we're good.

Sounds like the Cascade foothills forecast.

472 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:06:00pm

I'm off to slumber land. Goodnight all!

473 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:07:15pm

re: #470 jcm

It is. I'm agnostic on the whole thing, possible but I haven't seen anything convincing. Some sighting are are a puzzle, but like so much, nothing solid.

Exactly, same here. And that was my stance on the radio show. Yes, it's possible. Do we have ANY proof, not yet. Do people see things in the sky that they can't explain? All the time. Are they from another planet? No one knows what they are.

474 CheDub  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:07:22pm

re: #471 jcm

That's exactly what it is. They said eastside, but hopefully it doesn't make it to the Bellevue area.

G'night

475 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:07:41pm

re: #442 Killian Bundy
Man, now that's the truth!

476 redc1c4  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:08:48pm

re: #452 jcm

I had a "sighting" a few months ago. Driving home Venus seemed much brighter than normal. Suddenly Venus split and one part took off to the right and the other stayed put.

After a momentary WTF? I realized a plane on the downwind leg was directly inline between Venus and me. When the plane turned onto the base leg, Venus "split."

i was on my way home to the P's house one night years ago with a 747 turning onto the LAX north approach, when a couple large flaming objects came out of one of the engine: looked like flares at Club Bob, but without the chute.

never saw anything in the paper, but they obviously landed on 3 engines.

477 jcm  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:11:46pm

re: #476 redc1c4

i was on my way home to the P's house one night years ago with a 747 turning onto the LAX north approach, when a couple large flaming objects came out of one of the engine: looked like flares at Club Bob, but without the chute.

never saw anything in the paper, but they obviously landed on 3 engines.

Bird strike, unusual at night. Or an engine just pitched a blade.

478 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:11:56pm

re: #453 Walter L. Newton
ROFL! You do a very good job managing that place.
I wouldn't have been quite so polite!

479 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:12:27pm
480 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:12:45pm

re: #456 ggt
Good night ggt - weet dreams for you!

481 Killian Bundy  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:13:09pm

re: #469 redc1c4

a few years back Shotgun News had an ad for NIB ChiCom flame throwers, no paperw*rk needed

/not recommended for home defense

482 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:15:13pm

re: #481 Killian Bundy

/not recommended for home defense

Yeah, I wouldn't trust the safety of my home to a Chinese-made flame thrower. A Czech one, though, now you're talkin'.

483 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:15:46pm
484 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:16:01pm

re: #472 CheDub
Good night CheDub - sleep well. I'm heading off to bed soon myself!

485 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:18:27pm

I'm to bed, perchance to pass out.

486 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:18:59pm

re: #479 Iron Fist
37mm? That said a gas gun - does anyone make 37mm real ammo?

487 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:19:55pm

re: #482 Alberta Oil Peon
ROFL! Great one!

488 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:20:13pm
489 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:20:31pm

re: #485 Walter L. Newton
Good night Walter - sleep well!

490 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:22:14pm

re: #488 Iron Fist
Hey good night bro' - sorry to hear that the Ambien isn't working for ya. Hope you sleep well my friend.

491 [deleted]  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:23:42pm
492 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:24:53pm

re: #491 Iron Fist
Indeed - they are cool!

493 realwest  Fri, Dec 19, 2008 11:26:22pm

Well hell, Charles just put up an open thread and I gotta go to bed and SLEEP!
Good night to anyone still out here! I hope you have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

494 Throbert McGee  Sat, Dec 20, 2008 12:38:18am

re: #71 Instinct

Now I find out its the dang Freemasons! Are the Jews part of the Freemasons?

As far as I know, the reason that anti-Masonic and anti-Jewish conspiracy nuttery often go hand in hand is that the Freemasons historically had a tendency to be vocally critical of "organized religion" -- and in particular Christianity since it was the most significant "organized religion" within the Anglo-European sphere, and most especially the Roman Catholic Church.

Bear in mind that a lot of this goes back to the days when "organized Christianity" had a lot more earthly political power than it does today and sometimes used this power to trample harshly on its critics -- in other words, Masons saw themselves as voices of The Enlightenment, speaking against abuses of political power by the Catholic Church and other Christian bodies.

So, naturally, some of Masonry's critics concluded that if the Masons were saying mean things about Christianity, it must only serve to prove that the true organizers and controllers of Freemasonry were, ultimately, those awful Christ-killing Jooos.

495 troyriser  Sat, Dec 20, 2008 9:43:07pm

My late Stepfather, the man who raised me, was Grandmaster of Masons in Indiana, my home state. I was also a Master Councilor of my Demolay Chapter when I was a teenager--and hey, that happens to be the only thing Bill Clinton and I have in common. While not a Freemason as an adult, I think I can attest with some confidence the whole 'conquer the world' conspiracy has been postponed until after the annual Oyster Stew Dinner and before the Summer Fish Fry.


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