Two rednecks were looking at a Sears catalog and admiring the models.
One says to the other, 'Have you seen the beautiful girls in this catalog?'
The second one replies, 'Yes, they are very beautiful. And look at the price!'
The first one says, with wide eyes, 'Wow, they aren't very expensive. At this price, I'm buying one.'
The second one smiles and pats him on the back. 'Good idea! Order one and if she's as beautiful as she is in the catalog, I will get one too.'
Three weeks later, the youngest redneck asks his friend, 'Did you ever receive the girl you ordered from the Sears catalog?'
The second redneck replies, 'No, but it shouldn't be long now. I got her clothes yesterday!

Let it snow, let it snow.

10" and 30mph winds at my place.

re: #1 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Geeez, didn't someone post that joke a couple of nights back?

re: #3 BlueCanuck Yeah, Ozark Mountain Daredevil did! LOL!

Well all y'all - it's REALLY Late and I gotta get to sleep.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING, hope all Lizards make it through their various blizzards and other storms and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

I'm out too.

See in ya'll in the morning.

Night realwest, see you in the morning.

Dang. Charles, how many times have you seen this picture?

Sometimes memory is a handicap. I remember this scene. Vividly. From 20 years ago. With Elvira.

re: #1 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Two rednecks were looking at a Sears catalog and admiring the models.
One says to the other, 'Have you seen the beautiful girls in this catalog?'
The second one replies, 'Yes, they are very beautiful. And look at the price!'
The first one says, with wide eyes, 'Wow, they aren't very expensive. At this price, I'm buying one.'
The second one smiles and pats him on the back. 'Good idea! Order one and if she's as beautiful as she is in the catalog, I will get one too.'
Three weeks later, the youngest redneck asks his friend, 'Did you ever receive the girl you ordered from the Sears catalog?'
The second redneck replies, 'No, but it shouldn't be long now. I got her clothes yesterday!

Saw this post a few days ago. Was funny then... now its old.

re: #3 BlueCanuck

Geeez, didn't someone post that joke a couple of nights back?

Yep, and some people don't realize that recycled jokes loose the ooomph.

One irony of movie history is that Plan 9's laughably untalented producer/director, Ed Wood, was himself the subject and namesake of a movie that won critical approval and even an Academy Award.
The latter of course was for best supporting actor and went to Martin Landau for his uncanny portrayal of Bela Lugosi.

re: #2 JCM

Let it snow, let it snow.

10" and 30mph winds at my place.

Global warming.

re: #11 shanec99

"23!"

*crickets*

"Pssst! 23's a funny joke! Why ain't anybody laughin'?"

"'Cause, you knucklehead, you didn't tell it right!"

re: #14 stuiec

"23!"

*crickets*

"Pssst! 23's a funny joke! Why ain't anybody laughin'?"

"'Cause, you knucklehead, you didn't tell it right!"

My knees are hurting.

Sigh.

Ok then, have at it:

[Link: video.google.com...]

re: #11 shanec99

Yep, and some people don't realize that recycled jokes loose the ooomph.

If I posted it earlier, sorry. And shanec99, sorry I can't be as boring as you are.

Mornin', lizards! How goes everything?

Might as well make it a double-header, so to speak.

The amazing Glen or Glenda? - and a glimpse into Ed Wood's tortured soul. The poor guy should have been born just a few decades later: he could have been Hollywood's answer to John Waters...

re: #18 Fenway_Nation

Mornin', lizards! How goes everything?

The Cowboys lost! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

re: #2 JCM

Let it snow, let it snow.

10" and 30mph winds at my place.

Wow! I don't think I've ever seen this much snow here, and I've been here over twenty years. Maybe six inches where I am, but windy, and it's drifting. Just had a power bump, too...ugh.

re: #13 shanec99

Global warming.

Yeah. It's brutal. I hope my A/C doesn't go down.

re: #20 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The Cowboys lost! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

I'm looking forward to seeing the AZ Cardinals play the Pats in the snow later today...

re: #20 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The Cowboys lost! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

I'm rooting for the Loins to keep LOSING. They host N'awline later today, and next week they'll freeze their butts off at Lambeau.

re: #9 pat

Sometimes memory is a handicap. I remember this scene. Vividly. From 20 years ago. With Elvira.

Because of its script, acting, special effects, and multiple production errors visible in the final version of the film, Plan 9 from Outer Space is often regarded as a leading candidate for the title of "worst movie ever made". It has also earned Wood a posthumous Golden Turkey Award as the worst director ever.
~wiki
Is it really that bad?

re: #20 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Oddly enough, I was halfheartedly rooting for them tonight- a Baltimore loss would've given us a little more wiggle room in terms of the wild card. All things considered, the Pats last 2 opponents aren't exactly gimmees (the best team in a very bad division and the team with the worst record in a very good division).

Can we retroactively place New England in the AFC West?

/Also waiting for an update on Patrice Bergeron's condition.

re: #18 Fenway_Nation

Mornin', lizards! How goes everything?

Sorry, this was for you-

I'm looking forward to seeing the AZ Cardinals play the Pats in the snow later today...

re: #26 Fenway_Nation

Oddly enough, I was halfheartedly rooting for them tonight- a Baltimore loss would've given us a little more wiggle room in terms of the wild card. All things considered, the Pats last 2 opponents aren't exactly gimmees (the best team in a very bad division and the team with the worst record in a very good division).

Can we retroactively place New England in the AFC West?

/Also waiting for an update on Patrice Bergeron's condition.

If the Pats can't beat Arizona in the snow they don't deserve to be in the playoffs.

re: #25 Fearless Fred

We keep going over this. Yes, it IS that bad. Yes, you SHOULD see it for yourself to know how truly bad it is -- and why it has such a loyal following.

re: #26 Fenway_Nation

Sounds similar to Eric Lindros...

open thread, la, la, la, la, la...

re: #28 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I was just contemplating that there was the chance of three teams in the AFC East who are likely to do no worse than 10-6 and odds are that two of them will miss the playoffs altogether.

Meanwhile out west, the Broncos or Chargers could win their division with an 8-8 record while Miami, New England and/or the Jets miss the postseason altogether.

East coast bias indeed,.

re: #19 ryannon

The amazing thing is how much Ed Wood as Glenda looks like a man wearing a wig and a sweater. You'd think that any transvestite worthy of the name would know how to pull together a look better than that.

poils befor sven, la, la, la, la...

re: #32 Fenway_Nation

I was just contemplating that there was the chance of three teams in the AFC East who are likely to do no worse than 10-6 and odds are that two of them will miss the playoffs altogether.

Meanwhile out west, the Broncos or Chargers could win their division with an 8-8 record while Miami, New England and/or the Jets miss the postseason altogether.

East coast bias indeed,.

It's not bias, it is what it is- the playoff seedings. But the one thing is, don't blame the system. Brady is gone for now, and the Pats defense is not what it was. They're getting old.

re: #32 Fenway_Nation

I was just contemplating that there was the chance of three teams in the AFC East who are likely to do no worse than 10-6 and odds are that two of them will miss the playoffs altogether.

Meanwhile out west, the Broncos or Chargers could win their division with an 8-8 record while Miami, New England and/or the Jets miss the postseason altogether.

East coast bias indeed,.

Though the Steelers-Titans should be a great game. It's on at noon.

re: #33 stuiec

The amazing thing is how much Ed Wood as Glenda looks like a man wearing a wig and a sweater. You'd think that any transvestite worthy of the name would know how to pull together a look better than that.

Stuiec, it seems typical of the poor dude: you'd think he know how to put a film better than that as well.

He had a real talent for getting it all wrong - to the point of genius, some think...

you'd think he would have known

PIYF/

Earlier this month, I deadpanned that the Dallas Stars were able to make a trade with New York- Sean Avery for Plexico Burress.

re: #39 Fenway_Nation

Earlier this month, I deadpanned that the Dallas Stars were able to make a trade with New York- Sean Avery for Plexico Burress.

Well, they're both douchebags, but I doubt Plax can even lace up a pair of skates, much less skate...

re: #37 ryannon

I wonder, did he know how bad his films were? Or did he see them as the best he could do under the circumstances, and thus as reasonable facsimiles of what he'd set out to accomplish?

re: #40 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

As soon as I heard about Plax's very instructional how-not-to-handle-firearms weekend, my first thought was Future Dallas Cowboy

re: #42 Fenway_Nation

But I might've been too hasty- after all, the only person Plax shot was himself.

re: #43 Fenway_Nation

Can anything be more demeaning than being shot with your own weapon?

re: #44 BlueCanuck

Only if the phrase 'bullet piercing his scrotum' was somehow worked in.

re: #45 Fenway_Nation

touche. That would definitely top it.

re: #42 Fenway_Nation

There was a thread with a video about that here maybe a month ago. It was too damn funny.

And we're about to get hammered again. For all those people here wishing for a white Christmas? STOP already. We got enough to last a few weeks. . . .

re: #41 stuiec

I wonder, did he know how bad his films were? Or did he see them as the best he could do under the circumstances, and thus as reasonable facsimiles of what he'd set out to accomplish?

Good questions, but like you said, did he even know how bad he looked as a woman? Or was it the best he could do...?

Everything so seriously flawed.

I haven't the slightest as to what went on in that poor dude's head...

This amazing little short looks like it could have been done by him - but it wasn't:

re: #46 BlueCanuck

Or for the double-whammy 'An unidentified male, later identified as his homosexual lover, persuaded him to summon medical assistance'

re: #29 stuiec

We keep going over this. Yes, it IS that bad. Yes, you SHOULD see it for yourself to know how truly bad it is -- and why it has such a loyal following.

Okay -- soon -- I too shall rise up from the slime.

OT -- Those European "youths" are at it again, this time in Sweden. That's how the BBC identifies them: "Swedish city hit by youth riots."
[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

re: #51 Fearless Fred

You're never OT on the OT.
/OTOH...

So, I hear littleoldlady won't be around today. Something about a vacation?

/she deserves one, tirelessly serving us wretches the fruitcup everyday.

stuiec - Ed Wood is gone, but his spirit lives on amongst us:

- 2 here. Wind chill - 20. Think how much worse it would be without global warning. Thanks, Al.

PIMF: warming.

re: #37 ryannon

Stuiec, it seems typical of the poor dude: you'd think he know how to put a film better than that as well.

He had a real talent for getting it all wrong - to the point of genius, some think...

Guess he just had some odd ways ...
Even in his later years, Wood was not shy about going out in public dressed in drag as "Shirley"; his alter ego—female characters named Shirley also appear in many of his screenplays and stories.
~wiki

Shirley you can't be serious.

re: #58 Fenway_Nation

Yes I can, and don't call me Shirely. ;)

I hear that some of you are having a little problem with the snow.

I remember viewing Plan 9 From Outer Space many years ago. It was a laugh riot. Not intentionally so, but a laugh riot nevertheless.

Also worth a look: Santa Claus Conquers the Martians.

Why am I sitting here whining about the cold when I could be frowsting in my nice warm bed? Goodnight, all.

re: #62 Sloppy

Good night. Pull those warm covers over your head and bask in body heat. Sleep well.

Thanks, Blue. Just what I'm gonna do.

re: #54 ryannon

stuiec - Ed Wood is gone, but his spirit lives on amongst us:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Would make more sense to me if the manualist wore angora. But oh, what a beautiful couch!

re: #61 Alberta Oil Peon

Most of these movies I'm only familiar with in the Mystery Science Theater 3000 context.

BTW, Oil Peon...going into 2009, would you rate Precision Drilling Trust a buy or a sell?

re: #29 stuiec

We keep going over this. Yes, it IS that bad. Yes, you SHOULD see it for yourself to know how truly bad it is -- and why it has such a loyal following.

I've never been able to sit and watch the whole thing at one time. I just can't...

re: #4 realwest

Yeah, Ozark Mountain Daredevil did! LOL!

don't worry: one of these days OMD will figure it out...

/white smoke

re: #63 BlueCanuck

Good night. Pull those warm covers over your head and bask in body heat. Sleep well.

right up until he farts passes gas...

re: #66 Fenway_Nation

Most of these movies I'm only familiar with in the Mystery Science Theater 3000 context.

BTW, Oil Peon...going into 2009, would you rate Precision Drilling Trust a buy or a sell?

Is that one of Ed's projects?

re: #8 Macker

Dang. Charles, how many times have you seen this picture?

i don't know, but we gotta all chip in and by him some other DVD's...

re: #53 BlueCanuck

So, I hear littleoldlady won't be around today. Something about a vacation?

/she deserves one, tirelessly serving us wretches the fruitcup everyday.

fruitcup is out on the counter... with all this global warming blanketing the nation, it doesn't need to be in the fridge. %-)

re: #48 BlueCanuck

And we're about to get hammered again. For all those people here wishing for a white Christmas? STOP already. We got enough to last a few weeks. . . .

lake effect in effect?

re: #58 Fenway_Nation

Shirley you can't be serious.

I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.

re: #73 redc1c4

Little from column A, little from column B. Usually don't get lake effect here due to the prevailing winds.

Morning, lizards. Who's making fruitcup? I see that LOL is on vacation.

re: #76 Pvt Bin Jammin

She asked me to fill in. I'm so nervous

What!

I waited around for my first Return Fruitcup and LoL ain't serving?

No way, I'm going back into the Bunker.

SLAM,
R

re: #77 Sharmuta

She asked me to fill in. I'm so nervous

it's already mixed up and sitting out on the counter...

(just make sure you wear the gloves! %-)

re: #77 Sharmuta
I am sure you will do a good job. You have done it before. ;)

re: #78 Render

You will takes your fruitcup and likes it. No matter who's serving, capiche?

/white smoke.

re: #78 Render

What!

I waited around for my first Return Fruitcup and LoL ain't serving?

No way, I'm going back into the Bunker.

SLAM,
R

i see he came back with the same R 'tude...

re: #77 Sharmuta

Not to worry. I'll chop up those apples in my kitchen.

re: #80 BlueCanuck

I am sure you will do a good job. You have done it before. ;)

re: #78 Render

You will takes your fruitcup and likes it. No matter who's serving, capiche?

/white smoke.

gimme a hand lugging the extras over to the bunker air intake...

/that'll fix his wagon %-)

re: #83 redc1c4

Have I mentioned lately that you are an evil man?

/put's on gloves to assist red.

re: #84 BlueCanuck

Have I mentioned lately that you are an evil man?

/put's on gloves to assist red.

success != evil

success = results

Everybody ready? ;-)

/ice storm here.
//feh.

I'm off the hook!

So much for leaving at 4 am...

I have no idea what to get my little brother and sister for Christmas...

re: #89 TheMatrix31

I have no idea what to get my little brother and sister for Christmas...

Piss them off- get them books.

re: #86 littleoldlady

Everybody ready? ;-)

/ice storm here.
//feh.

saved you the trouble: fruitcup is already out on the counter: just make sure you wear the gloves... %-)

/white smoke

re: #89 TheMatrix31

Too bad they're not Jewish.

;-)

re: #89 TheMatrix31

I have no idea what to get my little brother and sister for Christmas...

a copy of "Atlas Shrugs"?

red,

If I didn't have to drive, I'd partake. :-(

re: #94 littleoldlady

Why isn't talloldman driving?

wait'll render finds out he missed LoL...

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re: #86 littleoldlady

Everybody ready? ;-)

/ice storm here.
//feh.

Ohhh...? I ordered some do.ug.hn.uts and piz.za just in case you didn't make it... Now it looks like I'll have to eat them all myself...

Looks like sharm's off the hook

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

re: #96 redc1c4

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re: #99 littleoldlady

Thanks, Lady!

Good morning and good nite lizardim. Best of the season to all of youse!

re: #95 Sharmuta

Why isn't talloldman driving?

Because MNTS & I would like to live at least until our next respective birthdays.

/eye problems, and that's the LEAST of his problems :-(

re: #97 freetoken

too bad they're pizza hut pizzas... they are on the boycott list for firing a lawfully armed employee who defended themselves from thievs...

against company policy, doncha know...

RENDER WAS HERE!?

/ah, crap! I missed him! :-( :-( :-(

re: #103 littleoldlady

Awww. Well- stay safe, because you're needed and loved.

Any fruitcup available for an oldtimer?

re: #99 littleoldlady

Thank you. I think this is my first "legitimate" fruitcup. As I recall you promised to save me some left- overs once. LOL

re: #105 littleoldlady

RENDER WAS HERE!?

/ah, crap! I missed him! :-( :-( :-(

Was it the ghost of Render past? I thought he got the stick?

re: #97 freetoken

You're a very evil person!

/gimmegimmegimme!

re: #103 littleoldlady

Because MNTS & I would like to live at least until our next respective birthdays.

/eye problems, and that's the LEAST of his problems :-(

well, travel safe... and have a tall scotch when you get there... where ever 'there' is.

/undoubtedly, you'll need it!

re: #105 littleoldlady

RENDER WAS HERE!?

/ah, crap! I missed him! :-( :-( :-(

see #78 up above...

re: #109 coquimbojoe

I don't think he ever got the stick. I just think he took a break.

re: #104 redc1c4

I guess I had heard that ... but forgot... oh well, Pizza Hut is the only thing open around here at this time of night...

Ok, I'll feed the pizzas to the local ferrel dogs... the doughnuts however stay with me...

re: #113 Pvt Bin Jammin

I don't think he ever got the stick. I just think he took a break.

Or, grew some sense?

re: #90 Sharmuta

Piss them off- get them books.

I may just do that. My older brother and his wife bought them clothes, so might as well piss them off more.

re: #92 littleoldlady

Too bad they're not Jewish.

;-)

LOL. Hell, even though we're not Jewish, that looks like fun!

re: #109 coquimbojoe

Was it the ghost of Render past? I thought he got the stick?

evidently rehabilitated... so i guess he's no longer in

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re: #116 TheMatrix31

How old are they?

Sharmuta! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

Fenway! :-)

red! :-)

Matrix! :-)

Pvt Bin Jammin! :-)

/bon appetit! :-)

freetoken! :-)

CARL?! CARL! :-)

joe! :-)

re: #78 Render

What!

I waited around for my first Return Fruitcup and LoL ain't serving?

No way, I'm going back into the Bunker.

SLAM,
R

re: #51 Fearless Fred

Okay -- soon -- I too shall rise up from the slime.

OT -- Those European "youths" are at it again, this time in Sweden. That's how the BBC identifies them: "Swedish city hit by youth riots."
[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

December 12, 2008: Week of Greek rioting taps into wider discontent

Protesters took to the streets of Athens for the seventh consecutive day Friday, vowing to maintain pressure on the government with both peaceful demonstrations and violent clashes that left one police officer engulfed in flames.
[...]
Demonstrators in France and Germany put on shows of support for the Greeks protests, which are driven in part by the widening gap between rich and poor in a country where the minimum monthly wage...

If the Beeb is covering the story in Sweden it's probably indicative that security forces and state censors are losing - or have lost - control.

I'm actually surprised that the rioting which started in Greece hasn't blossomed - regardless of respective cause and/or perpetrators - like a full-blown epidemic of hemorrhagic fever across the whole of Eurabia.

Of course, I may be expecting to see to much to soon.

re: #66 Fenway_Nation

Most of these movies I'm only familiar with in the Mystery Science Theater 3000 context.

BTW, Oil Peon...going into 2009, would you rate Precision Drilling Trust a buy or a sell?

All I can tell you is that as far as I know, Precision is the largest single player in the drilling services sector. Continued low oil prices will mean a reduced demand for their services, but oil prices won't stay low forever.

I'm thinking it would be a "buy", but don't expect it to double overnight. But they actually do provide services that are needed, unlike some financial services that peddling smoke and mirrors. Eventually, when the economy upticks again, oilfield service providers will be making money.

re: #119 littleoldlady

Sharmuta! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

Fenway! :-)

red! :-)

Matrix! :-)

Pvt Bin Jammin! :-)

/bon appetit! :-)

freetoken! :-)

CARL?! CARL! :-)

joe! :-)

Heh.

I just escaped Boston in time to beat the snow on Wednesday and now I'm back in Israel where we're praying for rain. We're supposed to get it tomorrow.

re: #120 redc1c4

*sniff!* :-(

i'm going to hit the rack myownself...

tomorrow is another "put the kitchen back together" day...

we even have clean dishes n'stuff now.

stove will be back, maybe tuesday...

re: #125 redc1c4

hasta, y'all...

L8r!

Nope, never got the stick. Got my LoL Fruitcup though.

KEED
SPILLS,
R

Thanks for the fruit cup littleoldlady. It will go great with my home made mac and cheese.

/lunch time for me now.

re: #123 Carl in Jerusalem

My friend from Miami is in NYC for a Bar Mitzvah. Frum, so there's a multiple-block walk to the shul from the hotel.

/gorebull warming shock! ;-)
//poor thing!

How have you been, Carl?

RENNNDDDER!

I've missed you!

/did you get married while you were gone? ;-)

re: #123 Carl in Jerusalem

Hope you get that much needed rain. My friends in Cyprus are in the same boat. They only have water for a few hours a day.

re: #128 BlueCanuck

Thanks for the fruit cup littleoldlady. It will go great with my home made mac and cheese.

/lunch time for me now.

Is it baked mac & cheese? That used to be a great treat for me as a youngster, going to the cafeteria in the Eatons store in downtown Vancouver; they called it the Marine Dining Room, IIRC, and having a dish of baked mac and cheese casserole. Yummy! Especially the browned crusty Cheddar cheese on top.

re: #126 redc1c4

Later, Red. Sweet dreams.

re: #129 littleoldlady

My friend from Miami is in NYC for a Bar Mitzvah. Frum, so there's a multiple-block walk to the shul from the hotel.

/gorebull warming shock! ;-)
//poor thing!

How have you been, Carl?

I'm okay, thanks. Spending way too much time in Boston. I was there for two weeks in September, a month from late October to late November, and ten days ending last Wednesday. I promised the younger kids I wouldn't go back again until Chanuka ends. I don't know what time zone I'm in anymore.

But at least I missed the heavy snow (it snowed a little on Tuesday night).

re: #130 littleoldlady

Negative. There is still that long distance thing to consider...

Missed you guys too, needed a break.

GOT
IT,
R

Alberta Oil Peon! :-)

aboo! :-)

re: #131 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hope you get that much needed rain. My friends in Cyprus are in the same boat. They only have water for a few hours a day.

That's where we're heading. They said that if it doesn't rain this winter, they are going to ban all lawn watering and ration all the rest of the water. And that's with Israel having the largest desalination plant in the world and importing water from Turkey.

We've actually shut off two of our three toilets from refilling automatically, opened the drains of the two sinks next to them and put a bucket underneath each. We use the bucket to fill the toilets. It's the fastest and easiest way to save water. Even when we have enough here, it is very expensive.

re: #132 Alberta Oil Peon

Only way I will eat mac and cheese. I have only eaten the boxed stuff three or four times in my life. I have what you would call a refined palate.

re: #136 littleoldlady

Lol are you on vacation in some warm clime?

re: #134 Carl in Jerusalem

Well, you could visit us here more often, you know.

/never calls, never writes...

_{Ring! Ring!}

"Hello Mom, how're you doing?

"Not so well. I haven't eaten in weeks!"

"WHY haven't you eaten, Mom?"

"Because I was afraid you might call, and I didn't want to have my mouth full of food..."

re: #139 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

We're headed out of the Pennsylvania tundra to Atlanta, North Florida, and then Hollywood, Florida.

/changing temperatures slowly; that way we won't get the bends. ;-)

Unfortunately, the weather isn't cooperating, we'll be leaving later than I would have wished. :-(

re: #137 Carl in Jerusalem

That's where we're heading. They said that if it doesn't rain this winter, they are going to ban all lawn watering and ration all the rest of the water. And that's with Israel having the largest desalination plant in the world and importing water from Turkey.

We've actually shut off two of our three toilets from refilling automatically, opened the drains of the two sinks next to them and put a bucket underneath each. We use the bucket to fill the toilets. It's the fastest and easiest way to save water. Even when we have enough here, it is very expensive.

That's terrible. We've had a few droughts here in California but nothing like that. You are right about the buckets to flush the toilets. We have done that in the past just so we could water our plants and not go over our allocated amount.

We had rain last week and it should start raining again Monday.

And speaking of leaving...

*p00f*

RENDER, Carl - great to see you guys!

/y'all come back now, y'hear?
© Jed Clampett

GOOD DAY, ALL!™

/...and hold down the fruitcup...

re: #140 littleoldlady

Well, you could visit us here more often, you know.

/never calls, never writes...

I know, I should.

When I'm in Boston, I can't even log in except from the office. I'm not in the office at 5:00 AM (or at least I try not to be).

re: #118 Sharmuta

How old are they?

Bro's turning 11 next month, sister''s 8.

My parents said no video games, since they seem to A) lose them, B) stop playing in two days.

re: #143 littleoldlady

And speaking of leaving...

*p00f*

RENDER, Carl - great to see you guys!

/y'all come back now, y'hear?
© Jed Clampett

GOOD DAY, ALL!™

/...and hold down the fruitcup...

Safe travels, LoL! Enjoy the Florida sunshine.

re: #143 littleoldlady

Have a great time!

Iran sends warship to fight Somali pirates - get ready for a real clusterf%&k.

Good to see everybody again (I've been sneaking in a bit here and there, dipping the fingers)(Sup Carl!).

Damn good to see that morning Fruitcup again. Especially as I contemplate yet another Sunday in hell (Oakland Raiders fan).

Proving that some things never change and dogs don't know what day it is, it's Dobers to the door time again.

LATER
ALL,
R

re: #142 Pvt Bin Jammin

That's terrible. We've had a few droughts here in California but nothing like that. You are right about the buckets to flush the toilets. We have done that in the past just so we could water our plants and not go over our allocated amount.

We had rain last week and it should start raining again Monday.

It's been four years since we had a decent winter of rain.

The forecast is for lots of rain this week.

But now there are long-term infrastructure problems. The underground aquaduct has become so salinated that they may never be able to use it again.

And that's without even getting into all the 'self-help' well drilling that's been going on in the parts of the 'West Bank' Judea and Samaria that Israel has not controlled for the last fifteen years.

re: #143 littleoldlady

And speaking of leaving...

*p00f*

RENDER, Carl - great to see you guys!

/y'all come back now, y'hear?
© Jed Clampett

GOOD DAY, ALL!™

/...and hold down the fruitcup...

Have a safe trip. Y'all leave the lights on now, y'heah?

re: #143 littleoldlady

Find fishin hole, send directions.

And have a safe trip.

re: #149 Render

Good to see everybody again (I've been sneaking in a bit here and there, dipping the fingers)(Sup Carl!).

Damn good to see that morning Fruitcup again. Especially as I contemplate yet another Sunday in hell (Oakland Raiders fan).

Proving that some things never change and dogs don't know what day it is, it's Dobers to the door time again.

LATER
ALL,
R

Hey Render,

That was a great game last Sunday, wasn't it?

/Pats fan

re: #148 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Iran sends warship to fight Somali pirates - get ready for a real clusterf%&k.

You mean they are sending a vessel to run interference for the Somalis and to encourage them to direct their attention toward non-Iranian ships?

re: #150 Carl in Jerusalem

It's been four years since we had a decent winter of rain.

The forecast is for lots of rain this week.

But now there are long-term infrastructure problems. The underground aquaduct has become so salinated that they may never be able to use it again.

And that's without even getting into all the 'self-help' well drilling that's been going on in the parts of the 'West Bank' Judea and Samaria that Israel has not controlled for the last fifteen years.

I had no idea it was that bad. Wishing you all the best with that. Better save some of that rain water.

Nite, lizards. I'd better get some shut eye. It's waaay past my bed time.

Take care, all.

Yeah, I'm signing off too. Long day of football ahead.

Thanks LOL, love that song now... all because of you.

Okay, good night/morning/afternoon (which is what it is here) to all!

re: #154 Alberta Oil Peon

Whatever the Iranian's think they're doing, I can almost guarantee it won't be pretty.

Let's see...in one AO we've got US battleships, Russian battleships, French battleships, Indian battleships, German battleships, Chinese battleships...and, I think, even some Spanish ships.

What could possibly go wrong?

re: #122 Alberta Oil Peon

I was actually attracted to the dividend...everything else is gravy.

re: #68 redc1c4

don't worry: one of these days OMD will figure it out...

/white smoke

FOAD, douchebag...

Yep, this thread is now offically on life support. Sooo, how about those [insert hometown team here]?

---flat-line---

Israeli blockade 'forces Palestinians to search rubbish dumps for food'

Get ready.

Man I hate being out of the loop. Discovered by way of a comic strip that Majel Barrett died on Thursday.

/farewell Nurse Chapel

re: #165 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Oh goody, more middle east grievance theater and drama.

/retch

re: #165 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Israeli blockade 'forces Palestinians to search rubbish dumps for food'

Get ready.

The settler's should give that steaming pile of sewage they have there a little nudge, that might help stuff grow!

Yea...I'm just thrilled.

What as this fit-hits-the-shan with the Obauguration.

what=Watch :)

Pinmf

20 Years later, Lockerbie anniversary a painful reminder

Sharon Hurst Duross said her family spends every Dec. 21 burying her brother.

It's a grim anniversary and Sunday marks the 20th year since Mark Hurst, 38, and 269 other people were killed when a bomb hidden aboard Pan Am flight 103 exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland. Mr. Hurst was one of 180 Americans killed, making it the largest terrorist attack against the U.S. until nearly 3,000 people were killed Sept. 11, 2001.

"It builds a cold, cold part inside of your body that wasn't there before," Ms. Duross said. "Our lives are never the same."

Even as much of the world has begun measuring distance from the attack in decades, it's far from over for those involved.

Persistent questions remain about the guilt of convicted bomber Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, a Libyan intelligence officer serving a life sentence. An appeal is expected to be considered in 2009, though Megrahi is gravely ill with cancer.

Ms. Duross and about 20 other families also remain in legal limbo waiting to receive compensation from the Libyan government through settlements to be distributed by the U.S. The two countries restored diplomatic relations in 2006.

The Libyan government had reached a settlement in which it agreed to pay $10 million for each victim of Pan Am 103, but those settlements were paid to the estates of the victims and occasionally didn't include the siblings and parents of adult victims, according to Mark Zaid, a lawyer representing Ms. Duross and the families of other victims awaiting compensation.

Ms. Duross and others not included in the initial settlement had sued the Libyan government separately. Those lawsuits were halted this year because of an agreement between the U.S. and Libya in which Libya agreed to pay $1.5 billion to the families of victims of Pan Am 103 and other terrorist attacks who had not been compensated.

The U.S. government said the agreement was for victims' families to receive fair compensation, but the money has not been distributed yet. It remains unclear exactly when it will and how much each family will receive, though the settlements could be several million dollars each.

"Time is not on our side; they've been waiting for closure for 20 years and it's not forthcoming," Mr. Zaid said. "Our battle now is with the U.S. government; it's not with Libya."

For now, Ms. Duross and her family continue to wait.

"I would like for it to be settled I would like for your mother to have some peace before she dies," said Ms. Duross, whose mother is 85.

On the day of the bombing, Ms. Duross recalled, she received a phone call at work from her father, which was highly unusual. Twenty years later, she remembers clearly the terrible wailing in the background.

"I said, 'Dad, what's that horrible sound in the background?' " Ms. Duross said. "He said, 'That's your mother screaming.' "

Even then, the family wasn't sure whether Mr. Hurst was among the dead.

He wasn't supposed to be on Pan Am 103.

He was supposed to fly home on a later British Airways flight, but the father of two young children changed his flight to get home earlier for Christmas.

Ms. Duross remembers his love of the Grateful Dead, fishing and the St. Louis Cardinals. "He was so gentle, which makes it all the worse," she said.

Ms. Duross said it's not so much the money her family is interested in, but an official acknowledgement of their grief and suffering. "I can't put a price tag on a death, on the murder of my brother," she said.

In agreeing to pay the settlements, Libya "accepted the responsibility for the actions of its officials," though it didn't actually admit to carrying out the plot.

"Libya was responsible, and they should be held accountable," Ms. Duross said. "I don't feel like that's asking too much."

Good Morning LGF.
Here's an interesting story which, from Israel's viewpoint, falls under the "every cloud has a silver lining" heading:

Terrorism Spurs Interest In Israeli Tech

The Defense Ministry and Israeli security companies have received a growing number of requests for homeland security technology since the terror attacks in Mumbai last month, top defense officials said Thursday, leading to speculation that Israeli defense exports will increase dramatically in 2009.

According to the story, India and the USA are both benefiting from Israeli anti-terror tech. And of course Israel will stand to benefit too from these relationships, in more than one way...

Morning All. Walter, If you are on, any more info on this?

Passengers escape burning jet in Denver; 38 hurt

DENVER – Firefighters said it was like something out of a movie — passengers emerging from a smoke-filled ravine where the remains of a Boeing 737 lay in flames, its landing gear and left engine shorn off.

re: #173 Bubblehead II

Something similar happened up here about 3 years ago. Likewise no fatalities.

It's time...

Bunch of Turtles!

Well time to head off to work. Today's commute is going to fun.

...MAJOR WINTER STORM UNDERWAY...
...SNOW TO CONTINUE THROUGH MONDAY MORNING...

///

re: #177 Bubblehead II

Drive safe.

re: #177 Bubblehead II

Well time to head off to work. Today's commute is going to fun.

...MAJOR WINTER STORM UNDERWAY...
...SNOW TO CONTINUE THROUGH MONDAY MORNING...

///

Can't believe people will be getting out in that mess.

Good Morning.

Tis the last Sunday before Christmas, the fat one has a pile of music to sing this morning at two different Churches.

Guess what else the fat one has this morning...

GOUT!

Let's hope I don't stub my toe and sing...

"Oh Holy SHITTT!"

re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good Morning.

Tis the last Sunday before Christmas, the fat one has a pile of music to sing this morning at two different Churches.

Guess what else the fat one has this morning...

GOUT!

Let's hope I don't stub my toe and sing...

"Oh Holy SHITTT!"

Oh, FBV, so sorry to hear this!
This isn't related to the wonderful red velvet cake I sent your way yesterday, is it?

Hand every traveler an AK as they board, no terrorism problem:
Railways to procure 3,000 AK-47 rifles

re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Guess what else the fat one has this morning...

GOUT!

Acupuncture.

/It may work, and if it doesn't, it won't make it any worse.

GOOD MORNING!

Morning FBV, gettinby. Going to taunt us once again with your gorgeous weathrer?

re: #182 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Hand every traveler an AK as they board, no terrorism problem:
Railways to procure 3,000 AK-47 rifles

What could possibly go wrong?

Of course.

I've been so busy, it's the only thing I have time to do anymore.

/Taunting keeps my sarcasm skills sharpened. LOL
//If it'll make you feel better, I will take a shower today with COLD water.

re: #182 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

They have banned Pakistanis from the hotels in Mumbai that were attacked.
Also no Pakistani staff allowed, either.

re: #187 WhiteRasta

They have banned Pakistanis from the hotels in Mumbai that were attacked.
Also no Pakistani staff allowed, either.

Yet the US is giving 1.5 billion +++++++?$ to Paki's.

re: #186 gettinby

No need to suffer commiserate on our behalf. That's why long johns and winter woolies were invented.

/and toques, scarves, mittens, polar fleece. . . .

Why is Rick Warren speaking at a Muslim convention? Has he lost his mind?

Is he gonna' mention Christ as the Son of God which will surely anger them?

Doesn't he know that gays are murdered by Muslims?

Hi, all! Sleet and freezing rain last night, what looks like just plain rain this morning. Some ice on the car and outdoor degorations, but otherwise, it's not looking all that bad. Not that I've actually been out to see how slick it is on the sidewalk or road!

re: #189 BlueCanuck

Did not know until now what a toque was. Looks toasty!

When we left the Aspen area to move to Florida, I gave away all clothing and shoes that were thicker than silk. Do not miss the coldness one iota.

re: #191 MandyManners

Is he gonna' mention Christ as the Son of God which will surely anger them?

BOOM
Whoopsie! ROP strikes again

re: #192 MandyManners

Doesn't he know that gays are murdered by Muslims?

Not to mention how they treat their women.

Who the hell is advising him?

re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've had gout, so you have my sympathy! Still, I couldn't help chuckling at the possible song line ...

Has Warren's ego run amok?

Is Warren a creationist?

re: #194 gettinby

Did not know until now what a toque was. Looks toasty!

When we left the Aspen area to move to Florida, I gave away all clothing and shoes that were thicker than silk. Do not miss the coldness one iota.

Believe me they are. They are a mans best friend.

/especially those of us that are thinning on the top parts.

re: #190 MandyManners

Why is Rick Warren speaking at a Muslim convention? Has he lost his mind?

Here's one for Rick.
Can't we all just get along?//

re: #194 gettinby

That's called a toque? I always called that sort of thing a watch cap ... gonna rename my handspun knitted one right away!

re: #190 MandyManners

Why is Rick Warren speaking at a Muslim convention? Has he lost his mind?

Romans 10:2
"For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge."

Keen but clueless. All heart, No head.

re: #202 Empire1

That's called a toque? I always called that sort of thing a watch cap ... gonna rename my handspun knitted one right away!

We always called them stocking caps. Though we did call them watch caps in the navy.

Does he think he has common cause with Muslims regarding homosexuality, abortion and creationism (he seems to be a creationist)?

re: #182 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Hand every traveler an AK as they board, no terrorism problem:
Railways to procure 3,000 AK-47 rifles

Good morning, Lizards.

The mix of small arms mentioned is interesting.

Besides the AKs, the Railway Protection Force is getting INSAS 5.56mm rifles, which are the new standard service rifle of the Indian Army. (Basically an AK in .223.) Plus SLR 7.62mm rifles, which is the old FAL in 7.62 NATO (.308 Winchester)- I'd guess those will be scoped sharpshooters' rifles. Plus 9mm "carbines" (probably SMGs- the Commonwealth forces used to refer to SMGs as "machine carbines"), and 9mm pistols.

The reasoning behind the AKs in this mix is hard to fathom, as they pretty much duplicate the INSAS. My best guess is either (a) a shortage of INSAS rifles (which, if India is gearing up to go toe-to-toe with Pakistan would be no surprise) or (b) a certain dissatisfaction with the 5.56 round.

cheers

eon

re: #202 Empire1

That's called a toque? I always called that sort of thing a watch cap ... gonna rename my handspun knitted one right away!

New to me, too!

BlueCanuck...How should one pronounce it?

re: #202 Empire1

They go by different names in different places. Same thing when all is said in done. Just like you get pop and soda.

/how to tell where a person is from.

re: #203 Crux Australis

They are anti-Christ.

re: #207 gettinby

toque: pronunciation- - - -- too- ku

re: #205 MandyManners

Does he think he has common cause with Muslims regarding homosexuality, abortion and creationism (he seems to be a creationist)?

Obviously it's a warm-up for Jan.20.

Fellow Lizardoids,

I'd like to wish everyone here a happy and prosperous Solstice and an enjoyable Festivalis Solis Invictus.

As this is the last weekend before Christmas, I sincerely hope that none of you has to brave the throngs of last-minute shoppers.

:)

I just have to say- I snagged a $300 coat for $119 yesterday. Felt almost like stealing.

re: #210 BlueCanuck

toque: pronunciation- - - -- too- ku

When I was a kid, it was pronounced "toke".

Of course, that now has an entirely different meaning.

cheers

eon

re: #210 BlueCanuck

fascinating. According to dictionary.com it's french by way of spain.

re: #205 MandyManners

Does he think he has common cause with Muslims regarding homosexuality, abortion and creationism (he seems to be a creationist)?

Rick Warren, the Inaugural Benediction guy?

re: #213 Sharmuta

I just have to say- I snagged a $300 coat for $119 yesterday. Felt almost like stealing.

Sweet! Is it a leather coat?

re: #217 HoosierHoops

Sweet! Is it a leather coat?

Even better- down. It's because of all the global warming.

re: #216 Sharmuta

Rick Warren, the Inaugural Benediction guy?

Yep. He's gonna' speak at some Muslim convention in two weeks.

re: #218 Sharmuta

Even better- down. It's because of all the global warming.

Oh, those poor, nekkid geese.

re: #214 eon

When I was a kid, it was pronounced "toke".

Of course, that now has an entirely different meaning.

cheers

eon

LOL. If you pronounce it "tewwwk" you could be in trouble.

re: #219 MandyManners

I wouldn't be surprised if he thought he had common cause for the reasons you listed.

You might like the links I posted in the spinoffs, Sharmie...;~)

re: #208 BlueCanuck

They go by different names in different places. Same thing when all is said in done. Just like you get pop and soda.

/how to tell where a person is from.

Rather like poke/bag/sack, yeah. I'm rather surprised I didn't know about this, though, since I enjoy reading about the history and variations of English (and other languages, but mostly English). I guess I thought a toque was some sort of fancy French hat, if I thought much about it at all.

re: #219 MandyManners

Yep. He's gonna' speak at some Muslim convention in two weeks.

Looks like he spoke to MPAC last night.

re: #222 Sharmuta

I wouldn't be surprised if he thought he had common cause for the reasons you listed.

Does he know what they do to gays?!

Rick Warren is a creationist, Mandy. Just add "creationism" after his name in a search engine. I found this when I did:

Warren, a creationist, believes that homosexuality disproves evolution; he told CNN's Larry King in 2005, "If Darwin was right, which is survival of the fittest then homosexuality would be a recessive gene because it doesn't reproduce and you would think that over thousands of years that homosexuality would work itself out of the gene pool."

re: #225 gettinby

Interesting link. Did you see who the entertainment was?

Morning Lizards, from an icy, rainy City of Brotherly Love!

re: #226 MandyManners

Does he know what they do to gays?!

Does he know what they do to women?

re: #225 gettinby

Looks like he spoke to MPAC last night.

This guy drank the Kool-Aid a long time ago.

re: #223 Salamantis

Hi, Sala. Need more coffee before I can really do some serious reading, but I'll check them out.

Did you get my email last week?

re: #228 formercorpsman

Interesting link. Did you see who the entertainment was?

Yup...

Among the first to stand was singer Melissa Etheridge, a lesbian, who performed for the audience.

re: #225 gettinby

Even better, if you take a look at the name of the spokeswoman, she is regular in the spinning circles.

Female Dougie.

re: #227 Sharmuta

Rick Warren is a creationist, Mandy. Just add "creationism" after his name in a search engine. I found this when I did:

Well that just figures..

re: #222 Sharmuta

I wouldn't be surprised if he thought he had common cause for the reasons you listed.

Good morning, Sharmuta. (Missed seeing you upthread.)

From what I've seen so far, I expect this administration to be a case study in "do as I say, not as I do" with a side order of "We're always right! You peasants are just too stupid to understand our subtle and nuanced positions!"

Or in plain English, all the worst characteristics of Carter, Clinton, and Kerry.

I look for Nixonian behaviors to surface along about mid-2011. (Think CREEP on steroids.)

Offhand, I can't think of any good that will come from this in the short term. In the long term, assuming we survive their idiocy, the 52% of the American people who voted The Zero into the Oval Office may wise up, and refuse to let another Democrat have it, or let the Dems have control of Congress, again unless and until the Dems finally grow up.

/Which will be generational, i.e. after the last Sixties retread succumbs to the ravages of time. Think about 2050.

cheers

eon

re: #227 Sharmuta

Rick Warren is a creationist, Mandy. Just add "creationism" after his name in a search engine. I found this when I did:

I'm surprised Warren hasn't "worked himself out of the gene pool."

re: #233 gettinby

I met Melissa once at a party..She is a wonderful, sweet person.

re: #234 formercorpsman

Even better, if you take a look at the name of the spokeswoman, she is regular in the spinning circles.

Female Dougie.

Goodness.

I just googled her name.

re: #227 Sharmuta

Rick Warren is a creationist, Mandy. Just add "creationism" after his name in a search engine. I found this when I did:

Man, he must not know about this:

[Link: www.sciencedaily.com...]

Or this:

[Link: www.newscientist.com...]

re: #232 Sharmuta

Hi, Sala. Need more coffee before I can really do some serious reading, but I'll check them out.

Did you get my email last week?

I've been lazy about checking my email. I promise to get around to it; there must be a thousand of 'em in there!

re: #239 gettinby

Even better, you may know Charles will sometimes refer to Steve Emerson's work on different links here from the Investigative Project.

[Link: counterterrorismblog.org...]

re: #238 HoosierHoops

I met Melissa once at a party..She is a wonderful, sweet person.

I'm sure she is.

But she was the entertainment last night where Rick Warren addresssed the muslim MPAC convention, so thought it interesting that a gay person would be invited.

re: #225 gettinby

Looks like he spoke to MPAC last night.

Recognizing the potential for controversy, Warren said near the beginning of his speech: "Let me just get this over very quickly. I love Muslims. And for the media's purpose, I happen to love gays and straights."

What does "for the media's purpose" mean? Does he love them for real?

re: #227 Sharmuta

Rick Warren is a creationist, Mandy. Just add "creationism" after his name in a search engine. I found this when I did:

I found a lot earlier but didn't have time to post it. What's the name of that Turkish guy?

re: #230 Sharmuta

Does he know what they do to women?

Maybe he thinks he can ignore it in exchange for support against homosexuals.

re: #245 MandyManners

I found a lot earlier but didn't have time to post it. What's the name of that Turkish guy?

His name is Adnan Oktar; his organization is Harun Yahya.

re: #243 gettinby

I'm sure she is.

But she was the entertainment last night where Rick Warren addresssed the muslim MPAC convention, so thought it interesting that a gay person would be invited.

That is kind of wierd.. She has never been shy about her sexuality...and at the party she was with a smoking hot woman...
Maybe she has changed her life...one never knows...

Searching "rick warren creationism" also gave me this youtube video.

He says his book is the best selling book in history. Guess he forgot about that book that gave him a job, eh?

re: #200 BlueCanuck

Believe me they are. They are a mans best friend.

/especially those of us that are thinning on the top parts.

i really like the russian fur hats. even the chinese rabbit ones are warm.

re: #243 gettinby

I'm sure she is.

But she was the entertainment last night where Rick Warren addresssed the muslim MPAC convention, so thought it interesting that a gay person would be invited.

I'm trying to wrap my mind around that.

re: #244 MandyManners

Recognizing the potential for controversy, Warren said near the beginning of his speech: "Let me just get this over very quickly. I love Muslims. And for the media's purpose, I happen to love gays and straights."

What does "for the media's purpose" mean? Does he love them for real?

He might, but I think that was because the media would write whatever they wanted about him, anyway.

re: #247 Salamantis

His name is Adnan Oktar; his organization is Harun Yahya.

Thanks! I'm gonna' google both with Warren. bbiab

re: #244 MandyManners

Recognizing the potential for controversy, Warren said near the beginning of his speech: "Let me just get this over very quickly. I love Muslims. And for the media's purpose, I happen to love gays and straights."

What does "for the media's purpose" mean? Does he love them for real?

More like, "I'm working from the script I've been given by The One. And like all of his statements, this one is only 'operative' as long as he needs it to be so."

Nuance, as Michelle Malkin would say.

cheers

eon

re: #243 gettinby

Yes, you read my mind.

Rather nefarious if you ask me.