An Eye in the Sky!

The Illuminati are at it again!

I just shoveled my driveway for the 6th? time this weekend... I'm loosing count... a rainbow? If only...

Are the pictures posted such as this, taken by Charles?
Just curious.

Looks like lens flare to me.

re: #4 DEZes

Are the pictures posted such as this, taken by Charles?
Just curious.

Usually.. I'm guessing over 90% of 'em.. he's quite a photographer

A silver dot rather than a silver lining, but I'll take it.

re: #5 MJ

Looks like lens flare to me.

What are you- a Darwinist, or something?!

I think it's Glinda.

re: #6 Yankee Division Son

Usually.. I'm guessing over 90% of 'em.. he's quite a photographer

Maybe he would be so kind to tell us what equipment he uses.

Raw video: Drivers slip sliding away

Charles, you have just photographed a rare phenomenon known as a "sun dog."

It seems the sun is indeed a bit off to the right of the photo, which is compatible with the 22-degree rule. Sun dogs are always 22 degrees away from the actual sun, parallel to the horizon.

re: #10 DEZes

Maybe he would be so kind to tell us what equipment he uses.

He often does, and has in the past, but I'm way to pooped to search for it.

re: #5 MJ

Looks like lens flare to me.

You need to learn to believe in MAGIC!

re: #9 Sharmuta

I think it's Glinda Glinta.

FTFY!

/white smoke

Hooray for nice images.

re: #5 MJ

Looks like lens flare to me.

Nope -- it's known atmospheric phenomenon:

Sun dogs.

re: #11 Killgore Trout

Raw video: Drivers slip sliding away

We just about had a Quad ATV vs. Snowmobile accident on my corner.
The two have been zipping around all morning, and just about nailed each other.

re: #10 DEZes

Maybe he would be so kind to tell us what equipment he uses.

my guess would be "a camera".....

/white smoke

re: #5 MJ

Looks like lens flare to me.

Nope. That was some kind of lenticular cloud formation focusing the sun-- looked like that in the sky.

Took this one with my Nikon D-90.

re: #11 Killgore Trout

Raw video: Drivers slip sliding away

You may enjoy this one. ;)
Police chase

Here is a similar photo to Charles' photo, showing the same effect.

re: #14 jcm

You need to learn to believe in MAGIC!

It's Glinda!

re: #22 DEZes

You may enjoy this one. ;)
Police chase

ROFLMAO!

re: #22 DEZes

HA!

re: #21 Charles
Thanks Charles.

re: #22 DEZes

Hahahaha!

re: #17 zombie

Nope -- it's known atmospheric phenomenon:

Sun dogs.

Sun dogs!
That's a new one on me. Interesting phenomena.

re: #20 Charles

Nope. That was some kind of lenticular cloud formation focusing the sun-- looked like that in the sky.

Actually, you don't specifically need lenticular clouds to get sun dogs -- just any kind of cloud or haziness will do. And it has to be cold up there -- the effect comes from ice crystal reflections, unlike the liquid water that produces normal rainbows.

Lenticular clouds have a different look that is very distinct - -I don't see one in your photo.

re: #26 Killgore Trout

see: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #4 DEZes

Are the pictures posted such as this, taken by Charles?
Just curious.

From a secret bunker.

re: #23 zombie

Gorgeous, Thanks for posting!

re: #29 MJ

Sun dogs!
That's a new one on me. Interesting phenomena.

You got your regular hot dogs, then you got your hot links, if you really want to go for broke you go for a sun dog.
/;-P

I once saw a really amazing sun dog in Denver (not the most recent time I visited at the convention, but years earlier). It was intensely colorful and so bright you could hardly even look at it -- which is one of the reasons why they're called "sun dogs," because they're sometimes seemingly almost as bright as the sun. The person I was with couldn't believe it was real.

Looks like Caroline Kennedy isn't going to make it. The Dems/Media axis is comparing her to Sarah Palin via an AP story. Translation: "No."

[Link: www.newsday.com...]

Is Caroline Kennedy like Sarah Palin?

WASHINGTON - A Democratic congressman compared Caroline Kennedy to Sarah Palin, saying the would-be senator hasn't proved she has the "guts and the gumption" to succeed Hillary Rodham Clinton.

There irony is, there are few people in the country more different from Sarah Palin than is Caroline Kennedy.

Hot Air Headlines...
No Divorce For Eight-Year-Old

An eight-year-old girl who was married off to a 58-year-old must stay with the man until she reaches puberty, a Saudi court has ruled.

Very nice, the bummer is that with even the best digital camera you don't get "full spectrum" hue in shots like these without a filter or something. I'm betting it was more colorful than the photo lets on.

Don and Chet do Vincent together

re: #37 Killgore Trout

Can we call them savages now? Or will the Savages complain?

re: #40 Iron Fist

Yes and yes.

re: #31 David IV of Georgia

What sins a person has, unless it directly affects me, is between him, his priest, and God. And his priest is absolutely forbidden to discuss such things. I've got enough problems—why should I worry about someone else?

Well said. I couldn't agree more.

re: #40 Iron Fist

Be my guest.

re: #12 zombie

Zombie's correct. It's a Sun Dog. The interesting thing about atmospheric optical phenomena is the orientation of the rainbow. I can't remember the rule, but if the rainbow is due to ice it's one way, and if it's due to water it's the other.

Somebody hep me!

Speaking of lenticular clouds:

If you ever doubted that lenticular clouds were responsible for the majority of UFO sightings, take a look a this photo.

That is what a "pure" lenticular cloud looks like.

re: #37 Killgore Trout

Ugh.

What is going on in Seattle? Isn't there a football game on? I am trying to see it but there is all this white stuff on the screen.

re: #45 zombie

Cool.

HOLIDAY WARNING! MEN, BEWARE OF HOME DEPOT SCAM!

Be careful when shopping at Home Depot. This is a "heads up" for men who may be regular Home Depot customers like me.

Over the last month I became a victim of a clever scam while out shopping. Simply going out to get supplies has turned out to be quite traumatic. Don't be naïve enough to think it couldn't happen to you, or to your friends.

Here's how the scam works:

Two very hot 20 something girls come over to your car or truck in the parking lot as you are unloading your shopping cart into your trunk or the bed of your pickup truck. They both start wiping your windshield with a rag and Windex, with their breasts almost falling out of their skimpy T-shirts. It is impossible not to look.

When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say, “No”, and instead they ask you for a ride to another Home Depot. Of course you agree, and they get in the backseat. On the way, they start undressing in your car or the cab of your truck. Then one of them climbs over into the front seat and starts performing oral sex on you, while the other one steals your wallet.

I had my wallet stolen on November 4th, 9th, 10th, twice on the 11th, 12th, 19th, 20th, and 30th. Also on December 1st and 4th, twice on the 8th, 16th, three times this Saturday and very likely again this week.

So tell your friends to be careful.

P.S. Wal Mart has wallets on sale for $1.99 each

re: #39 Thanos

Beautiful duo. Thanks thanos!

Kaixo!

Hmmm-a Sun Dog". Is his bark worse than his "bright"?

Zorionak! (Merry Christmas!)

re: #44 snopercod

Zombie's correct. It's a Sun Dog. The interesting thing about atmospheric optical phenomena is the orientation of the rainbow. I can't remember the rule, but if the rainbow is due to ice it's one way, and if it's due to water it's the other.

Somebody hep me!

If it's ice, it's a 22 degree circle around the sun. If it's water, it's 42 degrees around the point directly opposite the sun, i.e. with the sun at your back.

re: #44 snopercod

Zombie's correct. It's a Sun Dog. The interesting thing about atmospheric optical phenomena is the orientation of the rainbow. I can't remember the rule, but if the rainbow is due to ice it's one way, and if it's due to water it's the other.

Somebody hep me!

Well, the rainbow must be gay! I mean, why else do they use it for their symbol?

re: #45 zombie

Speaking of lenticular clouds:

If you ever doubted that lenticular clouds were responsible for the majority of UFO sightings, take a look a this photo.

That is what a "pure" lenticular cloud looks like.

Looks like a UFO to me.
That is interesting. I've never seen anything like that, although I have seen "spots" that look like the "sundog".

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel

At first, I thought you were joshing us.

/ Are you buying the wallets by the case yet?

re: #51 EuskalHerria

Kaixo!

Hmmm-a Sun Dog". Is his bark worse than his "bright"?

Zorionak! (Merry Christmas!)

Are you really a native Basque speaker? Not too many of those on LGF!

re: #55 Syrah

At first, I thought you were joshing us.

/ Are you buying the wallets by the case yet?

Nah, too old for that.

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel

I dream about stuff like that.

wow, when i first read; CLOUD RAINBOW SPOT,
i thought it might be for the "name my unicorn contest."

re: #45 zombie

Wow! It really could be foolery to your mind as a Alien ship...to the imaginative and those inclined to believe it would look like a saucer.
Beautiful photo.

re: #54 reine.de.tout

Looks like a UFO to me.
That is interesting. I've never seen anything like that, although I have seen "spots" that look like the "sundog".

Here's another that looks like a UFO.

They can appear all over, anywhere on earth. Somewhat rare, but not that rare.

I have seen these "rainbow spots" in the clouds before on cold winter days.

Amazing to look at. They are kind of surreal.

I always dig the lunar rings from upper atmospheric ice crystals.

Beautiful photo. The sky: greatest show on Earth, and free of charge besides.

re: #53 Alouette

Well, the rainbow must be gay! I mean, why else do they use it for their symbol?

Gay rainbows are fine. I just hate it when they get flamboyant & in your face about it

Wow, check out these lenticular clouds.

I'd be pretty freaked out seeing those in the sky, even if I knew they were clouds!

I was just outside playing in the global warming solids precipitate.

Its a winter wonderland here.

Lots of families out with their kids sledding down the hill.

It is still snowing.

A very freaky lenticular cloud.

re: #11 Killgore Trout

Raw video: Drivers slip sliding away

Haven't those morons heard of snow chains?

re: #67 zombie

Wow, check out these lenticular clouds.

I'd be pretty freaked out seeing those in the sky, even if I knew they were clouds!

Or these.
Mars attacks

re: #69 zombie

A very freaky lenticular cloud.

Oh, my!

re: #62 zombie

Here's another that looks like a UFO.

They can appear all over, anywhere on earth. Somewhat rare, but not that rare.

Hell, that was a whole pod of 'em!
UFO's, folks!
I have never seen clouds like that, and in Louisiana, we see a lot of clouds.

re: #62 zombie

Here's another that looks like a UFO.

They can appear all over, anywhere on earth. Somewhat rare, but not that rare.

Look At This One!

re: #37 Killgore Trout

Hot Air Headlines...
No Divorce For Eight-Year-Old

Needs to be sent to Rick Warren. Might enlighten him.

/or not.

I'm happy to report that I will be receiving a Squid Pie coffee mug in the next few days.

I'm unable to decide between Rule #87 and the "Safety Dance" shirts.

re: #52 zombie

Well what about multiple rainbows - where the first one has red on the outer part of the arch and violet on the inner section of the arch - and the second rainbow is "backwards". I've seen a tertiary rainbow, but don't recall the color sequence.

re: #70 Steffan

They also don't know enough to lay off the gas, ease up on the brakes and roll with a skid. We don't see much snow in this part of the country.

re: #67 zombie

Wow, check out these lenticular clouds.

I'd be pretty freaked out seeing those in the sky, even if I knew they were clouds!

We get them here every once in a while when the wind is blowing the right way over the mountains.

re: #69 zombie

Mick Jagger Lips!

re: #77 snopercod

Well what about multiple rainbows - where the first one has red on the outer part of the arch and violet on the inner section of the arch - and the second rainbow is "backwards". I've seen a tertiary rainbow, but don't recall the color sequence.

Wikipedia has a pretty good explanation of secondary and tertiary rainbows.

OK, so much for rainbows and funny clouds! I must sign off. Ta-ta!

re: #75 gettinby

Needs to be sent to Rick Warren. Might enlighten him.

/or not.

I have two problems with Rick Warren,One, he is a Celeberty clergy & two he got his big break on Oprah, like Doctor Phil & The President Elect.

zombie

Lenticular clouds.

Amazing! The things I learn at LGF.

Thanks, zombie.

re: #69 zombie

A very freaky lenticular cloud.

Nature porn?

re: #83 opnion

I have two problems with Rick Warren,One, he is a Celeberty clergy & two he got his big break on Oprah, like Doctor Phil & The President Elect.

oprah tends to support a lot of mediocrity. (and i'm trying to be polite.)

re: #83 opnion

I have two problems with Rick Warren,One, he is a Celeberty clergy & two he got his big break on Oprah, like Doctor Phil & The President Elect.

The thread below about Warren at the MPAC convention was very educational (to me anyway).

I'm just thinking acts such as an 8-yr-old girl being sold into marriage in Saudi Arabia is something Warren may not be aware of, among other evil practices.

Thanks, Zombie.
Thanks Charles for the gorgeous "sun dog" photo.

Burger King Ads Flame-Broiled in Controversy

Burger King's quest to find a "whopper virgin" — someone who has never tried their signature hamburger — and then administer an on-the-spot comparative, taste test against its top competitor has some critics questioning the fast food giant's new ad campaign.

"Here they are spending millions of dollars, going around the world trying to find hamburger illiterate people ... and an agricultural organization can't even raise 1/30 of the funds it needs in order to end hunger on the planet," said Eric Holtz-Giminez, executive director of Food First/Institute for Food and Development Policy in Oakland, Calif.

It's a [expletive deleted] television commercial and I bet the people even got paid. Geez.

/welcome to the Obama Nanny State

And what a wonderful blog Charles gives us each day!

My friends and I call it a free education that is worth more than one paid for.

re: #76 Dianna

I'm happy to report that I will be receiving a Squid Pie coffee mug in the next few days.

I'm unable to decide between Rule #87 and the "Safety Dance" shirts.

I vote Rule 87.

re: #86 nyc redneck

oprah tends to support a lot of mediocrity. (and i'm trying to be polite.)

She does, & she has incredible bias. She actually now has the nerve to complain that Sarah Palin will not jump to book on her show, while she is traking other bookings.
Oprah helped to stack the deck for Obama & played unfair. I hope that Palin snubs her in total.

re: #69 zombie

A very freaky lenticular cloud.

I just e-mailed links to those photos to a bunch of people I know who will enjoy them. Sure appreciate you pointing these out!

re: #87 gettinby

The thread below about Warren at the MPAC convention was very educational (to me anyway).

I'm just thinking acts such as an 8-yr-old girl being sold into marriage in Saudi Arabia is something Warren may not be aware of, among other evil practices.

If he isn't aware, he should be. He should know what is going on in the world.
If he is aware but is so anxious for "dialogue" that he's willing to overlook it - then shame on him.

re: #89 Killian Bundy

Burger King Ads Flame-Broiled in Controversy

It's a [expletive deleted] television commercial and I bet the people even got paid. Geez.

/welcome to the Obama Nanny State

The do-gooders and their media shills are trying to do what they do best: Extort some donations from a targeted corporation. Don't pay, BK.

re: #87 gettinby

The thread below about Warren at the MPAC convention was very educational (to me anyway).

I'm just thinking acts such as an 8-yr-old girl being sold into marriage in Saudi Arabia is something Warren may not be aware of, among other evil practices.

Ya know he probably is a good guy, but he has made a business out of salvation. He is more of a celeberty than anything. I think that it is unlikely that he is unaware of some of the evil in Islam, he just has his own agenda & that is promoting Rick Warren.

My God.... It's STILL snowing here!

Were going to have a White Christmas, that's for sure. (-:

Okay...I've learned my lesson: Never, NEVER announce your engagement during a "Gays and Scouting Thread". So, only because I love being the Center of Attention, I'm going to try this again...

Dear Lizards: I am engaged to be married! Yay me!

The future Mrs. yitzy is currently politically apathetic, but I hope to convince her to follow the Way of the Lizard soon.

re: #97 Dustoff-507

Dry and cold. Sigh.

Wish I could see some snow.

re: #98 yitzy

CON-GRATS... ok where is the Booze. 0-:

re: #95 Shiplord Kirel

The do-gooders and their media shills are trying to do what they do best: Extort some donations from a targeted corporation. Don't pay, BK.

Are those commercials even real? I mean they are playing one here in KC about an Inuit trying a whopper but it could be satire.

re: #101 kcladderman

Are those commercials even real? I mean they are playing one here in KC about an Inuit trying a whopper but it could be satire.

They're real. I think they are brilliant. Don't Kave King!

re: #98 yitzy

Okay...I've learned my lesson: Never, NEVER announce your engagement during a "Gays and Scouting Thread". So, only because I love being the Center of Attention, I'm going to try this again...

Dear Lizards: I am engaged to be married! Yay me!

The future Mrs. yitzy is currently politically apathetic, but I hope to convince her to follow the Way of the Lizard soon.

HOW CAN YOU GET MARRIED WHEN WE HAVE A GAY SCOUTING CRISIS!
/
Congrats when the big event going to take place.

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wish I could be happy aboout it, but this has been going on for days now and I have to clean my driveway just to get out. I bet I've removed a good 4ft of snow.

PS.. my driveway is 120 ft long. )-:

re: #98 yitzy

Okay...I've learned my lesson: Never, NEVER announce your engagement during a "Gays and Scouting Thread". So, only because I love being the Center of Attention, I'm going to try this again...

Dear Lizards: I am engaged to be married! Yay me!

The future Mrs. yitzy is currently politically apathetic, but I hope to convince her to follow the Way of the Lizard soon.

Way to go!

re: #91 reine.de.tout

I vote Rule 87.

Yeah, it does seem awfully appropriate.

I bet my mom wishes she'd thought of it.

re: #92 opnion

She does, & she has incredible bias. She actually now has the nerve to complain that Sarah Palin will not jump to book on her show, while she is traking other bookings.
Oprah helped to stack the deck for Obama & played unfair. I hope that Palin snubs her in total.

i do too.
sarah needs to do what's in her best interest.
why should she come running when the oprah snaps her fingers?
oprah had her chance. she chose to protect her lightworker.

re: #104 kcladderman

HOW CAN YOU GET MARRIED WHEN WE HAVE A GAY SCOUTING CRISIS!
/
Congrats when the big event going to take place.

Where was the thread about gays and scouting? It is a topic that causes heartburn where I am.

re: #89 Killian Bundy

I'll bet the Food First/Institute for Food and Development Policy in Oakland, Calif. offices have air conditioning, carpet, a coffee maker, a refridgerator, etc. They spend money on that and yet there are people without food in this world!

And I wonder if Eric Holtz-Giminez has any luxuries at home beside bare subsistance living?

re: #98 yitzy

"The future Mrs. yitzy is currently politically apathetic"

Isn't that cute. Yitzy thinks he understands apathy. He isn't even married yet.

re: #108 nyc redneck

i do too.
sarah needs to do what's in her best interest.
why should she come running when the oprah snaps her fingers?
oprah had her chance. she chose to protect her lightworker.

Exactly

re: #97 Dustoff-507

Were going to have a White Christmas, that's for sure. (-:

Racist

re: #109 Sunlight

Where was the thread about gays and scouting? It is a topic that causes heartburn where I am.

I think it was the over night thread .

re: #104 kcladderman

mazel tov.

re: #111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Isn't that cute. Yitzy thinks he understands apathy. He isn't even married yet.

I don't care about apathy.

re: #111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Isn't that cute. Yitzy thinks he understands apathy. He isn't even married yet.

Now you stop! You're only supposed to smile and congratulate. Same as when they're first kid approaches. Just smile and congratulate or the human race will disappear!

re: #98 yitzy

Okay...I've learned my lesson: Never, NEVER announce your engagement during a "Gays and Scouting Thread". So, only because I love being the Center of Attention, I'm going to try this again...

Dear Lizards: I am engaged to be married! Yay me!

The future Mrs. yitzy is currently politically apathetic, but I hope to convince her to follow the Way of the Lizard soon.

You must convince her that the way of the Lizard is the path to enlightenment, Grasshopper.

re: #118 Sunlight

Now you stop! You're only supposed to smile and congratulate. Same as when they're their first kid approaches. Just smile and congratulate or the human race will disappear!

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dry and cold. Sigh.

Wish I could see some snow.

If you would like to come take some of mine, I'd be more than happy to let you take some of it..

re: #111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Isn't that cute. Yitzy thinks he understands apathy. He isn't even married yet.

As the years go by her respect will grow & the sex just gets better & better, right?

re: #94 reine.de.tout

If he isn't aware, he should be. He should know what is going on in the world.
If he is aware but is so anxious for "dialogue" that he's willing to overlook it - then shame on him.

exactly, if he doesn't know, he is not doing his job.
there should be universal outrage by all civilized people abt. this practice of pedophile "marriage" taking place at the behest of islam.
who cares if the moslems are made uncomfortable if this is brought up.
they should be full of concern and shame.

re: #121 Yankee Division Son

If you would like to come take some of mine, I'd be more than happy to let you take some of it..

All last week was warm and rainy. Now that it is dipping below 32F, it is dry.

It's a conspiracy, I tells ya.

re: #122 opnion

As the years go by her respect will grow & the sex just gets better & better, right?

And more frequent.

re: #115 buzzsawmonkey

What really frosts the opponents of the Whopper Virgin ads is that seeing people used to chewing raw whale blubber or drinking liquified yak fat saying, "Gee, this is a lot better" is going to make it a lot more difficult for them to cram raw whale blubber and liquified yak fat down our throats in the interest of Saving the Planet.

The loony I saw complaining about these ads asserted that these are not "meat-eating" people, and their digestive systems are so sensitive to meat that feeing them these burgers is "toxic" to them.

re: #122 opnion

Penny in the jar theory.

re: #101 kcladderman

Are those commercials even real? I mean they are playing one here in KC about an Inuit trying a whopper but it could be satire.

re: #103 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They're real. I think they are brilliant. Don't Kave King!

I've only seen the Inuit one, and personally, I thought that particular one was in pretty bad taste. Why? Because, in reality, the last remaining traditionalist Eskimos have mostly been lured away from their aboriginal culture precisely by things like Burger King Whoppers and other fast food, with an attendant rise in obesity, diabetes, poor health, and an overall destruction of their millennia-old way of life. It's not just an ad -- that scene has been played out thousands of times in reality, with unfortunate results. And it seems like Burger King is bragging about destroying traditional cultures.

The people who made that ad campaign are simply tone-deaf to how they are perceived.

re: #125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And more frequent.

Oh yeah, on demand!

re: #128 zombie

There's another strange aspect to the commercials' concept.
Why should you trust the advice of someone who has never tasted that kind of food before? No one would try to sell sushi that way.

Happy Winter Solsitce to all you lizards out there.....Ribs on the BBQ, temp about +5 F and all is good here in the Far Mystic North.

Oh by the way...this just in.....

Bristol Palin's (Sarah's daughter) future mother in law was arrested on drug charges. You can read about it here.

re: #128 zombie

With all due respect. If I were an Inuit in 1850, and someone brought the modern world to me, I, personally would greatly appreciate it.

Nothing about that way of life looked fun to me.

re: #116 yochanan

mazel tov.

Glad to see you made it out of that thread. Did you give up on Salamantis?
I updinged all the downdings he gave you.

re: #98 yitzy

Congratulations! That's wonderful!

re: #96 opnion

Ya know he probably is a good guy, but he has made a business out of salvation. He is more of a celeberty than anything. I think that it is unlikely that he is unaware of some of the evil in Islam, he just has his own agenda & that is promoting Rick Warren.

Probably.

Can't help but think of the old Steve Martin movie 'Leap of Faith' though. LOL

re: #128 zombie

I don't like the ads either, but the Whopper is closer to traditional Inuit diet than most things they eat nowadays. It was traditionally 100% meat and fish during winter, and was highly vitamin deficient.

re: #128 zombie

I've only seen the Inuit one, and personally, I thought that particular one was in pretty bad taste. Why? Because, in reality, the last remaining traditionalist Eskimos have mostly been lured away from their aboriginal culture precisely by things like Burger King Whoppers and other fast food, with an attendant rise in obesity, diabetes, poor health, and an overall destruction of their millennia-old way of life. It's not just an ad -- that scene has been played out thousands of times in reality, with unfortunate results. And it seems like Burger King is bragging about destroying traditional cultures.

The people who made that ad campaign are simply tone-deaf to how they are perceived.

So are you saying you want them to stay just the way they are, even if they want to change?

re: #135 gettinby

Probably.

Can't help but think of the old Steve Martin movie 'Leap of Faith' though. LOL

That is a Steve Martin movie that I missed. What is the gist?

re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

With all due respect. If I were an Inuit in 1850, and someone brought the modern world to me, I, personally would greatly appreciate it.

Nothing about that way of life looked fun to me.

But that does not fit the hypothesis of "the happy noble savage" that I wrote my doctoral thesis on...

re: #122 opnion

As the years go by her respect will grow & the sex just gets better & better, right?

That's the idea, yes.

If more guys paid more attention, it would be universal, and the world would be a much better place.

re: #140 Dianna

That's the idea, yes.

If more guys paid more attention, it would be universal, and the world would be a much better place.

What? Huh? Looking around
/

re: #140 Dianna

That's the idea, yes.

If more guys paid more attention, it would be universal, and the world would be a much better place.

Paid more attention to what?
... gotta run Broncos halftime ending ...

re: #140 Dianna

That's the idea, yes.

If more guys paid more attention, it would be universal, and the world would be a much better place.

Uh huh, right.

re: #129 opnion

Oh yeah, on demand!

It should be, and on both sides.

I believe in total access, at all times.

re: #139 David IV of Georgia

But that does not fit the hypothesis of "the happy noble savage" that I wrote my doctoral thesis on...

Heh. Then your doctoral thesis was "whale excrement".

re: #138 opnion

That is a Steve Martin movie that I missed. What is the gist?

Let's see. It's about Christianity, so the Christians are either portrayed as clowns or hypocrites.

In this movie, hypocrites. Fake faith healer.

re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

With all due respect. If I were an Inuit in 1850, and someone brought the modern world to me, I, personally would greatly appreciate it.

Nothing about that way of life looked fun to me.

Oh, I'm no PC-defender of all "primitive" cultures. I fully admit that most pre-civilizational cultures weren't a lot of fun, and often had terrible value systems (Carthaginians, Aztecs, Yanomamo, etc.). But when there are only a handful left, they're like an endangered species, and we probably shouldn't make a joke about wiping out the last of them, as these ads seem to do.

Whether or not we would enjoy being old-skool Inuits, it is their way of life, and it's kind of cringe-worthy to see a corporation making light of what many people consider a sad tragedy -- the final extirpation of traditionalist cultures.

Amsterdam's Gay Christmas
featuring a guy in drag as Mary.

Duct tape, meet heads.

re: #142 buzzsawmonkey

No wonder the Whopper is winning the Whopper Virgin ads; what you recount is a whopper right there.

I have an Ozark hillbilly cousin who eats roadkill groundhogs. Wonder if his system is too sensitive for a whopper.

Congratulations Yitzy!

Mazel tov to you and the future Mrs. Y!

re: #150 kcladderman

I'm guessing here. No.

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Heh. Then your doctoral thesis was "whale excrement".

If you believe comment #139, I have some beach front properties in Oklahoma that I'm selling cheap.

re: #148 zombie

The worst thing that's happened to the Inuit isn't fast food, it's Oly-pop.

re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

With all due respect. If I were an Inuit in 1850, and someone brought the modern world to me, I, personally would greatly appreciate it.

Nothing about that way of life looked fun to me.

fun is relative...jus sayin

re: #145 Dianna

It should be, and on both sides.

I believe in total access, at all times.

Oh man, Dianna I have so many inappropriate one liners going through my head. Instead I'll just say right on!

re: #144 opnion

Uh huh, right.

Sigh.

Look, I know all the jokes about women not being interested in sex. What's funny is that not all that long ago, women's insatiability was the standard for jokes.

So, trust me, this is about how men handle sex, not women!

re: #98 yitzy

Congratulations and best wishes to you both!

When a man opens the door of his car for his wife, you can be sure of one thing: either the car is new or the wife is. - Author Unknown

Do not marry a man to reform him. That is what reform schools are for."
Mae West

The secret of a happy marriage remains a secret.
-Henry Youngman

I LOVE marriage!

/on my 3rd. ;)

re: #156 opnion

Oh man, Dianna I have so many inappropriate one liners going through my head. Instead I'll just say right on!

Trot 'em out, just keep it to innuendo, and double entendre!

re: #147 Silhouette

Let's see. It's about Christianity, so the Christians are either portrayed as clowns or hypocrites.

In this movie, hypocrites. Fake faith healer.

Bet that it was funny.

re: #160 opnion

Bet that it was funny.

Actually, it's both funny and touching.

re: #137 kcladderman

So are you saying you want them to stay just the way they are, even if they want to change?

Well, that's a very deep question -- gets into the whole Kipling-esque "White Man's Burden" thing (not that I'm necessarily "white" or a "man"). Is it the responsibility of advanced societies to bring "primitive" peoples up to our way of living (as was believed up until fairly recently); or is it our duty to preserve, as in amber, the last remnants of a dying culture? Because we have so much more awareness and power, we can easily manipulate what these people think they "want." It's not such an easily answered question.

Being the sentimental nostalgic that I am, I tend to fall into the "preserve the endangered species" camp, just on general principles.

re: #153 David IV of Georgia

Nah. I was just being silly back atcha!

Kaixo!

To all who wonder if I am a native Basque speaker, I plead guilty to being a "Basque wannabe". I married a gal whose grandmother immigrated from Mendata in the Basque province of Bizkaia in the early 1900's; she landed in Boise, Idaho where she met and married a French immigrant from southern France. They had 5 kids and operated a Basque boarding house in Boise for a number of years. My wife's Dad was one of the 3 sons. My wife is really into Genealogy in a big way and has gathered information on thousands of relatives, many of them living in Spain. We have been to Spain several times and have visited with some of her relatives, and even saw the ancestral home where her Grandmother was born. They are great, friendly people, and are thrilled to find out how their relatives in the US are doing. Boise is home to many Basques; they have a "Basque Center" and museum, and every 5 years they stage a "Jaialdi" festival which features Basque music, dancing, athletic events, and other cultural things. People from all over the US attend. and large numbers of people from the Basque Country (Euskal Herria) in Spain come and participate. The last one I attended, a competition called Soka Tira (tug-of-war) was held between Basque athletes and football players from the Boise State University football team (naturally the Bascos won!).
Anyway, I have been learning a little Basque (Euskara) over the years. It's a language much older than the Indo-European family of languages (Germanic, Italic, Celtic, Greek, Balto-Slavic, Indo-Iranian, Armenian, etc.) and was once spoken over a much larger area than it is today (northern Spain and southern France). There are less than a million Basque speakers in the "old country" today, but there are quite a few young people learning the language, both here and overseas.

Gero arte! (See you later!)

re: #157 Dianna

Sigh.

Look, I know all the jokes about women not being interested in sex. What's funny is that not all that long ago, women's insatiability was the standard for jokes.

So, trust me, this is about how men handle sex, not women!

Dianna, I don't discount what you are saying & really I am just having some fun , but it is true that the way to stop many women from having sex is to marry them. I'm just sayin.

re: #138 opnion

That is a Steve Martin movie that I missed. What is the gist?

He was a fake faith healer.

re: #165 EuskalHerria

Reno has a nice Basque, family style restaurant that I never fail to visit when I am in the area. The food and atmosphere are fantastic.

For anyone interested - check out the aircraft that slid into a ravine after some soft of failure at take-off.

[Link: www.9news.com...]

yikes.

re: #163 zombie

I must say, I find the notion of "preserving" a culture a bit off-putting.

I think people who want to change should be able to. I know that means that the kids will run for the bright lights, and the traditional culture dies, but...I only believe in individuals, anyway. I don't much care for discussions of traditional "culture" conducted by people who are ensconced in the greatest comfort.

It get's worse, the attack from a different angle . . .

Burger King Ads Underscore Imperialism of the Fast Food Nation

The Hmong villagers of Chiang Mai Province in Thailand eat a well-balanced diet. They raise pigs and other livestock, grow cabbage, tomatoes and corn. A typical meal might consist of rice with spicy minced pork sauce and soft-boiled vegetables. Unlike the vast majority of meat production in the United States, their animals are not genetically cloned and raised in pens at the expense of the animal's health and, arguably, the consumer's, but pastured outdoors on a healthy, natural diet.

So, "what happens if you take remote Chiang Mai villagers who've never seen a burger, who don't even have a word for 'burger' and ask them to compare Whopper versus Big Mac in the world's purest taste test?" the new campaign from Burger King asks.

Well, for one thing, vomiting, diarrhea, and with extended use, Type 2 diabetes, obesity and vitamin deficiency (i.e. the impact of the American diet on Greece). But most of all, you get a classic story of American corporate colonialism, sickly masked in that all-too-proud illusion of goodwill.

/yep, The Whopper, Destroyer of Ancient Civilizations

February 8, 2009: New England Patriots vs. the Oklahoma Sooners for the Galactic Championship.

re: #166 opnion

Dianna, I don't discount what you are saying & really I am just having some fun , but it is true that the way to stop many women from having sex is to marry them. I'm just sayin.

Damn. That's worrisome.

I guess I'll just keep my Male living in sin, then!

re: #163 zombie

So you want them to stay the same for you? I understand your feelings on wanting to preserve these cultures.These however are not endangered species these are human beings. It seems your argument is don't offer a whooper to these people because they might like it and then they will stop eating whale.

re: #163 zombie

Well, that's a very deep question -- gets into the whole Kipling-esque "White Man's Burden" thing (not that I'm necessarily "white" or a "man"). Is it the responsibility of advanced societies to bring "primitive" peoples up to our way of living (as was believed up until fairly recently); or is it our duty to preserve, as in amber, the last remnants of a dying culture? Because we have so much more awareness and power, we can easily manipulate what these people think they "want." It's not such an easily answered question.

Being the sentimental nostalgic that I am, I tend to fall into the "preserve the endangered species" camp, just on general principles.

historically on a grand scale the profit margin accounts for a great deal regarding the decision to preserve one culture or another...maybe the white mans burden is the weight of is gold...pretty cynical I guess

In Fairbanks you can easily tell the Inuit kids who grew up in coastal villages from those who grew up in towns or cities. The village kids have pop bottle bottom glasses, are short, and have bowed legs. The Town kids have no glasses, or light prescription, are 6" to a foot taller, and have better teeth.

re: #172 Killian Bundy

It get's worse, the attack from a different angle . . .

Burger King Ads Underscore Imperialism of the Fast Food Nation

/yep, The Whopper, Destroyer of Ancient Civilizations

Um...they did notice that both tomatoes and corn are from the Americas, and not particularly traditional to the Hmong?

re: #174 Dianna

Damn. That's worrisome.

I guess I'll just keep my Male living in sin, then!

Well, I don't think that it is universally true, but it is for the guys that married my female cousins. They do a lot of begging.

Kaixo!

Sometimes I like to "Basque" in the sun! (I do like puns, too- especially if they are "punny"!

Agur!

re: #165 EuskalHerria

Nice! Thanks for the explanation.

There are less than a million Basque speakers in the "old country" today,

What those Basques need is a bunch of Burger Kings and Whoppers to help them forget that pesky wacky old language!

re: #179 opnion

They do a lot of begging.

And, buy jewelry.

re: #148 zombie

Oh, I'm no PC-defender of all "primitive" cultures. I fully admit that most pre-civilizational cultures weren't a lot of fun, and often had terrible value systems (Carthaginians, Aztecs, Yanomamo, etc.). But when there are only a handful left, they're like an endangered species, and we probably shouldn't make a joke about wiping out the last of them, as these ads seem to do.

Whether or not we would enjoy being old-skool Inuits, it is their way of life, and it's kind of cringe-worthy to see a corporation making light of what many people consider a sad tragedy -- the final extirpation of traditionalist cultures.

Malaria and starvation are a "way of life" for a lot of pre-civilization cultures too. Should we not attempt to wipe out malaria because only a few people who aren't here in the USA suffer from it? I say if Burger King wants to hand out a couple burgers to perennially half starved hunter-gatherers more power too 'em.

re: #179 opnion

Well, I don't think that it is universally true, but it is for the guys that married my female cousins. They do a lot of begging.

Oh, man. That is just...sad.

Very, very sad.

re: #136 Thanos

I don't like the ads either, but the Whopper is closer to traditional Inuit diet than most things they eat nowadays. It was traditionally 100% meat and fish during winter, and was highly vitamin deficient.

Its hard to grow anything when it is -40 degrees F, the wind is blowing 30 knots and is dark. Having spent a lot of time on the North Slope and the west coast of Alaska in winter, I am in awe that they were able to survive at all.

re: #172 Killian Bundy

It get's worse, the attack from a different angle . . .

Burger King Ads Underscore Imperialism of the Fast Food Nation

/yep, The Whopper, Destroyer of Ancient Civilizations

The True Face of Evil

re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And, buy jewelry.

I will never, ever understand. Sex isn't a bribe, and it's not a reward.

re: #172 Killian Bundy

It get's worse, the attack from a different angle . . .

Burger King Ads Underscore Imperialism of the Fast Food Nation

/yep, The Whopper, Destroyer of Ancient Civilizations

You're a little late on the thread -- we're already discussing this very topic!

And yes, I'm the one arguing the moonbat side, that maybe it's not such a clever thing to make light of purposely destroying traditionalist cultures.

I'm not really worked up over this issue, as I'd only ever seen one of the ads once, but if forced to render my opinion, I would agree that I think they were in pretty bad taste.

re: #189 ploome hineni

it's not?

Not in my world.

But whatever floats your boat is fine with me!

re: #175 kcladderman

So you want them to stay the same for you? I understand your feelings on wanting to preserve these cultures.These however are not endangered species these are human beings. It seems your argument is don't offer a whooper to these people because they might like it and then they will stop eating whale.

If you want to see the joys of aboriginal culture simply visit Indian Reservations.
THe incidence of diabetes, alchoholism, drug abuse & teenage suicide is appaling.
I would advise any young person to get loans if necessary, go to college & don'[t go back. That may sound harsh, but the pathology there needs to be avoided.

re: #190 zombie

A taste test that is is bad taste.

re: #192 opnion

But is that aboriginal culture, or the sad residue?

re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And, buy jewelry.

I swear you are exactly correct. It is like a jewler on retainer , He gets invited to weddings.

Kaixo!

There is an excellent Basque restaurant called Epi's in Meridian, Idaho (just west of Boise). The serve their food family-style, just like my wife remembers at the Delamar, the Basque boarding house which her grandparents ran in Boise. The food is GREAT!

Agur!

re: #192 opnion

That's not their original culture.

re: #192 opnion

If you want to see the joys of aboriginal culture simply visit Indian Reservations.
THe incidence of diabetes, alchoholism, drug abuse & teenage suicide is appaling.
I would advise any young person to get loans if necessary, go to college & don'[t go back. That may sound harsh, but the pathology there needs to be avoided.

I think that is more a symptom of long term welfare.

re: #195 Dianna

But is that aboriginal culture, or the sad residue?

Nobody can say with certainty, but it is there own soverign nation.
No matter why it is the way that it is , the young people need to be saved.

re: #195 Dianna

But is that aboriginal culture, or the sad residue?

My experience in the village.....sad residue. Alaska's native people are proud of their heritage (and rightfully so in my opinion) and they are making a real effort to bring it back to their young people.

I'm just a goofy old white guy, but I have had the opportunity to go to fish camp and go caribou hunting, and it seems to me they have it together when they are out gathering food.

re: #185 Thor-Zone

Its hard to grow anything when it is -40 degrees F, the wind is blowing 30 knots and is dark. Having spent a lot of time on the North Slope and the west coast of Alaska in winter, I am in awe that they were able to survive at all.

Not only survive, but hold sporting events!

re: #190 zombie

it's not such a clever thing to make light of purposely destroying traditionalist cultures.

/it's one taste test between two hamburgers, it's not like they're herding them into camps and making the entire population eat the damn things at gunpoint

re: #200 kcladderman

I think that is more a symptom of long term welfare.

BINGO....We have a winner!

re: #168 rawmuse

Reno has a nice Basque, family style restaurant that I never fail to visit when I am in the area. The food and atmosphere are fantastic.

Do you go to Loui's or the Santa Fe? I have been to both. I love those Pecan Punch drinks. LOL

re: #175 kcladderman

So you want them to stay the same for you? I understand your feelings on wanting to preserve these cultures.These however are not endangered species these are human beings. It seems your argument is don't offer a whooper to these people because they might like it and then they will stop eating whale.

It is very easy to tempt tribal people away from their traditional way of life. Hell, the missionaries to Hawaii even convinced most Hawaiians to abandon the hula, as the missionaries had deemed it "un-Christian." After a century or two, the Hawaiians said, "Hey, wait a minute -- you tricked us, the hula was an important component of our culture! We can be Christian and still do the hula if we want!" Luckily, a few people still remembered how to do it, and it was re-born as a story-telling form. But thousands of times around the world, similar cultural artifacts and behaviors were forgotten -- because we convinced the "primitives" that it wasn't good for them.

Whoppers and other fast food have been carefully designed to be delicious and addictive, over decades of taste-testing. But they can be bad for you. Of course if you offer a Whopper to a teenage Eskimo, they're gonna want it. How could they not? But if left unchecked, this trend would lead to cultural homogenization around the world. (Which, in fact, is already happening, if the McDonald's in Paris and the KFC on Tianenmen Square are any indication).

Cultural homogenization makes me sad.

re: #197 ploome hineni

Absolutely!

I watched this movie last night, after my gig.
I thought it was outstanding. Great scenery, wonderful child actors, and a captivating score, with full orchestra plus a heavy metal band. It is subtitled, an apparent Russian production. For the guys we have full contact battle scenes with massed armies on horseback. For the ladies, a love story that can't be beat.
rawmuse sez, check it out.

re: #203 Thor-Zone

Alaska's native people are proud of their heritage

I'm proud of my heritage, of ancestors who made their own soap, created a country, and crossed an ocean in leaky wooden ships.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to continue to live like they did. Electricity, cable, computers, and readily available inexpensive food are also part of my culture.

re: #205 Killian Bundy

/it's one taste test between two hamburgers, it's not like they're herding them into camps and making the entire population eat the damn things at gunpoint

I have to go with you on that. It is a taste comparison , not an attempt at genocide.

This has to be a total weenie answer, but there has to be a way to preserve the good while bringing comfort, nutrition and medical care in. I think a lot of kids of those cultures would be more than willing to learn languages, traditions, history, crafts, and so on, as long as they could also be prosperous and comfortable.

So, the Inuit can eat fruits and veggies while learning their language, participating in their traditions, and so on. The catch (speaking as a parent) is a way to make it seem cool. You'll find no shortage of young men willing to learn the haka.

re: #211 buzzsawmonkey

Actually there used to be a Burger King in Kotzebue, AK (Check Google Maps to find Kotzebue) a number of years ago. Fortunately, not enought people ate there and it went out of business.

re: #215 ploome hineni

anyone see the Cheney interview?

Sorry, no.

And I think I'm going to go have a glorious nap. It's dull and grey outside, and I really didn't want to get up this morning.

re: #207 Pvt Bin Jammin

Do you go to Loui's or the Santa Fe? I have been to both. I love those Pecan Punch drinks. LOL

It is Loui's.

re: #217 Dianna

Sorry, no.

And I think I'm going to go have a glorious nap. It's dull and grey outside, and I really didn't want to get up this morning.

A nap? That's what my parents used to say. (Married 41 years and counting.)

I'm watching the Vikings fumble the game away against the Falcons.

You'd think the ball was red hot the way the Vikings are kicking it around.

This actually gives the Bears a shot. I don;t think the Bears are any good this year, but it gives them a shot.

Condolences to the 0 - 15 Lions fans. Just a brutal year.

re: #214 EmmmieG

TYou'll find no shortage of young men willing to learn the haka.

I get the feeling that is not a Kumbaya type of thing.

re: #212 Silhouette

I'm proud of my heritage, of ancestors who made their own soap, created a country, and crossed an ocean in leaky wooden ships.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to continue to live like they did. Electricity, cable, computers, and readily available inexpensive food are also part of my culture.

A lot of people in the villages in Alaska have computers, cable TV and most of the "modern conveniences" you are used to. The big difference is you can't go whale hunting or subsistence fishing.

I'm not saying all is well there, but it is a lot better than it used to be.

re: #211 buzzsawmonkey

Nobody is forcing all these quaint aboriginals to eat Whoppers on a regular basis.

Speaking of force, in Bermuda, the state is forcing people in the other direction. They have outlawed chain restaurants. (There is one legacy KFC) So now everyone can feel a little superior that the Bermudian culture is "preserved," the free choice of the people be damned.

re: #219 EmmmieG

A nap? That's what my parents used to say. (Married 41 years and counting.)

I say...good for them!

re: #215 ploome hineni

anyone see the Cheney interview?

Worth watching.
Cheney makes no apologies, and answered questions in a straightforward fashion.

S.F. blames out-of-towners for endless homeless problem

City officials are finally admitting what others have been saying for years: San Francisco is attracting huge numbers of homeless people from all over. Thousands of transient people, arriving from other counties, states and even countries, are overwhelming the city's homeless system.

/circling the drain

re: #222 Thor-Zone

A lot of people in the villages in Alaska have computers, cable TV and most of the "modern conveniences" you are used to. The big difference is you can't go whale hunting or subsistence fishing.

I'm not saying all is well there, but it is a lot better than it used to be.

Yes it is. There are still honey buckets in Barrow though, and spending the night riding herd at the NSB Jail's drunk tank / detox wing as I have a few nights is a like a visit to hell.

re: #183 Neo Con since 9-11

Malaria and starvation are a "way of life" for a lot of pre-civilization cultures too. Should we not attempt to wipe out malaria because only a few people who aren't here in the USA suffer from it?

Short lives are part and parcel of the traditional way of life. That's exactly correct. Dogooderism is also cultural imperialism. Building hospitals and using DDT and digging sewers -- those are our values. It has been shown many times over in anthropological studies that "improving" the lives of hunter-gatherer tribes with modern conveniences inevitably has all sorts of corrosive side-effects we can't predict. Sometimes just building a hospital causes the collapse of a traditional way of life, because that particular tribe has no way to cope with or feed all the old people that now survive past 35.

I say: allow these tribes to throw in the towel and enter the modern world if they want on their own initiative, but if they prefer to stay "backward" -- let 'em. And don't force ourselves on them, whether it be capitalsit fast food outlets or moonbat dogooder projects.

Nice talking with the lizard army today......Gotta go work on my snowmachine. See ya all later.

re: #218 rawmuse

Very fun place. They poured our daughter a big glass of that red table wine when she was about 13, LOL, I let it go. When we went outside she witnessed her first real snowstorm. She was hilarious trying to catch the snowflakes.

We go to the Santa Fe now because my brother-in-law's ex hangs out at Loui's.

re: #221 rawmuse

I get the feeling that is not a Kumbaya type of thing.

A high school in Salt Lake City had a heavily-Polynesian football team. They started a tradition of starting their games with the haka. The league ruled they had to stop because it constituted intimidation. They decided to keep the tradition and take the penalty.

Now Obama wants to spend even more money we don't have:

Obama Expands Recovery Plan, Aims for 3 Million Jobs

Dec. 21 (Bloomberg) -- President-elect Barack Obama, faced with a deteriorating economy, is expanding his stimulus package with a goal of creating or saving 3 million jobs over two years, a transition aide said last night.

The new target, revised from 2.5 million jobs he previously announced, came at the suggestion of Christina Romer, Obama’s pick to head the Council of Economic Advisers, during a Dec. 16 meeting with the president-elect’s top economic advisers, the aide said, speaking on condition of anonymity. Romer said the short, medium and long-term economic forecasts have worsened since Obama outlined the plan on Nov. 22, the aide said.

Obama, who takes office Jan. 20, is making job creation his first priority as government reports suggest unemployment will grow further in the worst economy since World War II. General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC will shutter about 59 factories over the next month as sales plunge. GM and Chrysler will get $13.4 billion in emergency government loans to stay afloat.

“We’ve got to begin to stem this bleeding here, and begin to stop the loss of jobs and the creation of jobs,” Vice President-elect Joe Biden said on ABC’s “This Week” program today.

“The day we’re sworn in, the thing that we have to worry about is the further collapse of this economy,” Biden added. “No president raising his right hand will ever have been in the position by the time he says ‘I so swear’ and drops his hand, will he have such an immediate urgent obligation of consequence since Franklin Roosevelt.”

Oh please.

Ronald Reagan inherited a much worse economy from Jimmy Carter.

re: #178 Dianna

Also, the Thai eat rice products and have very little access to wheat products. Pretty much the entire burger is something they are not used to eating. Chaing Mai is a tourist town and there are or were at least six different hill tribe groups in the area.

re: #212 Silhouette

I'm proud of my heritage, of ancestors who made their own soap, created a country, and crossed an ocean in leaky wooden ships.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to continue to live like they did. Electricity, cable, computers, and readily available inexpensive food are also part of my culture.

I think that the whole concept of the Noble Savage may be overdone.
You have to factor in starvation's, incessant tribal warfare, human sacrifice etc. European hands aren't clean but I do see all of this idealizing of aboriginal cultures as a back door slap at our own.

re: #229 zombie

Sometimes just building a hospital causes the collapse of a traditional way of life, because that particular tribe has no way to cope with or feed all the old people that now survive past 35

Something about that made me think about Social Security shortfalls.

Suttee (google it) was an ancient Indian cultural tradition. The imperialist Brits banned it. Was that a Bad Thing?

re: #232 EmmmieG

A high school in Salt Lake City had a heavily-Polynesian football team. They started a tradition of starting their games with the haka. The league ruled they had to stop because it constituted intimidation. They decided to keep the tradition and take the penalty.

Bully for them!

re: #208 zombie

The beautiful, worthwhile, and enduring parts of cultures tend to survive. It's the ugly that gets left behind. In that video I posted if you took those kids and placed them next to their parents you would see an average of a foot or better in height, and much better health.
The biggest problem with the white man's culture is booze, they haven't built up the evolutionary tolerances to it that we have. In villages when a fifth of anything is opened they toss the lid in the trash, soda-pop is called "mix" and beer is called "pop".

I could be wrong but this looks like the very rare NSFW Cumulus RON JEREMIUS formation.

re: #192 opnion

If you want to see the joys of aboriginal culture simply visit Indian Reservations.
THe incidence of diabetes, alchoholism, drug abuse & teenage suicide is appaling.
I would advise any young person to get loans if necessary, go to college & don'[t go back. That may sound harsh, but the pathology there needs to be avoided.

The life on Reservations is not "aboriginal culture". In fact, quite the opposite: it's what happens AFTER a traditional culture has been destroyed by modern western things like alcohol, white sugar, fast food, etc.

Before Columbus, there was no alcoholism in the New World, because there was no (or almost no) alcohol. And diabetes was either extremely rare or totally absent, because there was no processed sucrose in the diet.

The reservations are a good example of what happens when traditional ways of life are wiped out.

re: #225 jwb7605

Worth watching.
Cheney makes no apologies, and answered questions in a straightforward fashion.

He is an adult.

re: #240 Thanos

Unfortunately, some people in our culture have made the ugly parts a money making venture and continue to play the victim card to line their own pockets. Guilt is a powerful emotion and works far to often on those who are ignorant. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and their ilk should be ashamed of themselves.

re: #229 zombie

Short lives are part and parcel of the traditional way of life. That's exactly correct. Dogooderism is also cultural imperialism. Building hospitals and using DDT and digging sewers -- those are our values. It has been shown many times over in anthropological studies that "improving" the lives of hunter-gatherer tribes with modern conveniences inevitably has all sorts of corrosive side-effects we can't predict. Sometimes just building a hospital causes the collapse of a traditional way of life, because that particular tribe has no way to cope with or feed all the old people that now survive past 35.

I say: allow these tribes to throw in the towel and enter the modern world if they want on their own initiative, but if they prefer to stay "backward" -- let 'em. And don't force ourselves on them, whether it be capitalsit fast food outlets or moonbat dogooder projects.

I doubt Burger King kidnapped the lady in the commercial.

Sometimes just building a hospital causes the collapse of a traditional way of life, because that particular tribe has no way to cope with or feed all the old people that now survive past 35.
Huh?

re: #214 EmmmieG

. You'll find no shortage of young men willing to learn the haka.

Where's Mandy? I bet she would like that.

re: #226 Killian Bundy

You pay them tax free cash money, give them every other type of assistance, and you wonder why we have more of them?

I don't know what bothers me more about my home town, that, or the fact that our Transportation and Parking manager makes almost as much money as the President of the United States.

Tin foil hats for everyone!

re: #241 uptight

I could be wrong but this looks like the very rare NSFW Cumulus RON JEREMIUS formation.

The wife and I were watching Detroit Rock City with a friend when she blurts out "That's Ron Jeremy" (he has a cameo role in it).

My friend says: "I don't know which is more disturbing... that Ron Jeremy is in the movie or that you know who he is."

/The movie reminds me of my misspent youth in the 70's.

re: #243 opnion

He is an adult.

I loved it when he was asked about the "go f*ck yourself" incident, and his response to Biden's remark about him being the "most dangerous vice president in history".

cool.calm.collected.

re: #205 Killian Bundy

/it's one taste test between two hamburgers, it's not like they're herding them into camps and making the entire population eat the damn things at gunpoint

I realize that. I'm just saying that the ad campaign seems to me to be in bad taste, because they're making light of a real-world process (the homogenization of cultures) that many people, myself included, see as tragic.

I'm not claiming that the ad campaign is itself responsible, or Burger King in particular -- just commenting on the overall trend over the last few centuries.

re: #250 jwb7605

I loved it when he was asked about the "go f*ck yourself" incident, and his response to Biden's remark about him being the "most dangerous vice president in history".

cool.calm.collected.

He is not evil & did a really good job.

It's obviously a Sylph, an half-invisible dragon-like alien on the side of Troof who helps cleanse the air of the New World Order's mind-controlling chemicals in "chemtrails" dispensed by special nozzles hidden inside the engines of commercial airliners.

This is an actual conspiracy theory.

Today is the 40th anniversary of the launch of Apollo 8- first manned orbit of the moon.

Is it Hanukkah yet?

I don't get the controversy. Not long after its introduction the whopper test could have been done in Iowa. Just gotta go a little further these days.

re: #258 Silhouette

Is it Hanukkah yet?

Not Jewish, but I think that depends on where you live.

re: #157 Dianna

Sigh.

Look, I know all the jokes about women not being interested in sex. What's funny is that not all that long ago, women's insatiability was the standard for jokes.

So, trust me, this is about how men handle sex, not women!

Women were covered up in the Middle East due to their sexuality and men being afraid. IMHO

Oh, allow me to add: Happy Hannukah!