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The Two-Minute Hokey Pokey Hate

Weird | Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 5:20:56 pm PST

The Hokey Pokey.

We’ve always known it as an expression of profound despair, in which all of existence, indeed, all of life itself, is reduced to a series of jerky ritualistic moves in a macabre nihilistic parody of “dance” ... culminating in a statement of ultimate bleak emptiness:

That’s what it’s all about.

And this horrific auto da fe, this twitching, wriggling choreomania of the damned, is now a hate crime. As well it should be.

According to the Catholic Church and some Scottish politicians, singing the popular tune that begins with the words “You put your right hand in, your right hand out,” may constitute an act of religious hatred.

A spokesman for the leader of the church in Scotland said the song had disturbing origins.

Critics claim that Puritans composed the song in the 18th century in an attempt to mock the actions and language of priests leading the Latin mass.

Now politicians have urged police to arrest anyone using the song to “taunt” Catholics under legislation designed to prevent incitement to religious hatred.

(Hat tip: Moi Aussi.)

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1 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:22:37pm

Next up: The Macarena is deemed offensive to Mexicans.

2 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:22:59pm

It's about time someone did something about this offensive dance.

3 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:22:59pm

Kidding, right? Please say yes.

4 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:23:08pm

Virginia Tech continues to do a 60,000 person Hokey Pokey every week.

5 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:23:39pm

I'm Catholic and I can't recall ever going to a wedding that didn't feature the Hokey Pokey.. or the Chicken Dance, or Celebrate Good Times by Kool and the Gang, or Old Time Rock and Roll by Bob Seger.

I think its a law. The DJ has to play those four songs for the wedding to be official.

6 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:23:48pm

WTF?

7 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:24:02pm
8 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:24:10pm

It is also deemed to people in prison (or "The Pokey").

9 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:24:41pm
10 crunchfighter  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:24:56pm

Didn't realize my 3-year old was being raised a hater.

11 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:25:04pm

I expect this kind of shit from Muslims.

12 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:25:08pm

I'm speechless.

13 capitalist piglet  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:25:30pm

I always thought it should be outlawed, just not for this reason.

14 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:25:42pm

re: #7 buzzsawmonkey

Interestingly, "Hokey Pokey" was a term which used to be used in Britain for certain cheap ice creams--supposedly derived from something Italian.

Are you sure you're not confusing this with the Hooker, Pooker?

15 JAK  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:25:47pm

re: #12 Jetpilot1101

that's the point jet

16 WhiteRasta  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:26:02pm

The place formerly known as Great Britain has gone completely bat-shit nuts.

Seriously.

17 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:26:06pm

Is this some sort of tit-for-tat ...

"Criticism of the Hokey Cokey follows a long-running row over the singing by some Rangers fans of the Famine Song, which refers to the famine that left one million dead in Ireland and led to mass migration in the mid-19th century."

Idiots ...

18 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:26:40pm
Now politicians have urged police to arrest anyone using the song to “taunt” Catholics under legislation designed to prevent incitement to religious hatred.


We were discussing this earlier. Does Charles put up these thread just to get me in trouble?

19 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:26:47pm

Be sure to read the whole article and the comments--it's a small minority claiming the "hate crime." The football (soccer) fan connection is interesting, but for goodness sake--GET A LIFE!

20 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:27:00pm
21 JAK  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:27:08pm

Once we get this hate crime thing down right, the only thing you will be able to think, let alone say, is how grateful you are to the O!

22 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:27:13pm

People... please check your common-sense at the door... we are now entering 100% PC idiocy.

Thank You.

23 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:27:25pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

We were discussing this earlier. Does Charles put up these thread just to get me in trouble?

He does have an interesting sense of humor.

24 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:27:26pm

What I find funny is the when occasionally people say that some act that is bigoted is "beyond the pale" meaning to condemn the bigotry.

But the use of the term "beyond the pale" could be considered racist itself, IF ONE ASSUMES that everyone who uses the term is intimately acquainted with all its history and means to imply all that history by using it.

A big "IF".

Catherine the Great created a 'Pale of Settlement' in Russia in 1791. This was a western border region of the country in which Jews were allowed to live. The motivation behind this was to restrict trade between Jews and native Russians. Some Jews were allowed to live, as a concession, beyond the pale.

25 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:28:04pm

All these self inflicted wounds just open up lesions in the body politic that an agent of an opportunistic invader can use for its own purposes. Hows that for flogging an analogy to death? Hello Religion of Perpetual Grievance and the Vampire Lawyers of MPCUK.

26 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:28:17pm

This just in: Gumby's sidekick is filing a defamation lawsuit against the Catholic Church in Scotland.

27 2by2  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:28:26pm

Church of Scotland, England, Catholics, Brits, lighten up!

28 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:28:28pm
29 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:28:37pm
30 Thanos  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:28:46pm

Meanwhile... Germany wants to shelter Gitmo detainees, Hamburgers are rioting, and somewhere some nutcase is brewing the next delusional war in Europe.

31 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:28:50pm

Remember the flight attendant that was called racist for saying Eeny Meeny Miney Mo?

32 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:29:18pm

re: #20 buzzsawmonkey

This is what I thought, too. Actually, the first time Mr. ArmyWife thought he might be getting somewhere with me, he asked me if I was interested in going to his apartment for some "hokey pokey". Oh the romance of our youth!

(I wish I was making this up, but really, it's fact)

33 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:29:30pm

re: #24 Silhouette

What I find funny is the when occasionally people say that some act that is bigoted is "beyond the pale" meaning to condemn the bigotry.

But the use of the term "beyond the pale" could be considered racist itself, IF ONE ASSUMES that everyone who uses the term is intimately acquainted with all its history and means to imply all that history by using it.

A big "IF".

The expression dates back even further. "Pale" is derived from "paling," the fortifications of a town. If someone's actions were outrageous, they were "beyond the pale," not fit for civilized society,

34 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:29:52pm

re: #31 Silhouette

Remember the flight attendant that was called racist for saying Eeny Meeny Miney Mo?

Oh, offensive to The Three Stooges . . .

/

35 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:29:59pm

re: #28 buzzsawmonkey

No, not kidding this time. If you read the stories of Wolf Mankowitz ("A Kid for Two Farthings" and "Make Me an Offer" are particularly good), "hokey pokey" is used as a common term for ice cream. The stories date from the mid-1950s.

Sadly, my literay education is lacking in many areas.

36 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:30:05pm
37 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:30:11pm

re: #32 ArmyWife

re: #20 buzzsawmonkey

Could be just because it sounds like hanky panky.

See also: hoi polloi and hoity toity.

38 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:30:47pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

We were discussing this earlier. Does Charles put up these thread just to get me in trouble?

Why, yes, I think he does.

In fact, I feel a good seethe coming on any minute now.

39 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:30:48pm

re: #35 MandyManners

At least some have literary analogies. I get an embarrassing tale from my past!

40 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:30:53pm

I can't find the Catholic individual in this.... no names? where's the name of the authority in the Catholic Church who's behind this idiocy -- or is there one?

41 doppelganglander  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:30:54pm

re: #24 Silhouette

Interesting. I thought "The Pale" was a similar line in Ireland beyond which the English had no ability to enforce the law.

42 mbpaul  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:31:01pm

Oh come on. I always hated the Hokey Pokey but this makes me want to go out and do it.

43 solomonpanting  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:31:08pm
According to the Catholic Church and some Scottish politicians, singing the popular tune that begins with the words “You put your right hand in, your right hand out,” may constitute an act of religious hatred.

This is akin to the NYTimes disclosing top secret info on the Bush Administration. Both are intended for incitement. If not for these disclosures, who knew?

44 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:31:11pm

awly awly in free!.....(busted)

45 opinionated  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:31:13pm

Forget the Hokey Pokey.

Let's do the Time Warp again!

46 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:31:36pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

We were discussing this earlier. Does Charles put up these thread just to get me in trouble?

Yes.... He is after all, all about getting you Killgore..... ;p

47 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:32:06pm

re: #45 opinionated

it's a step to the left....

48 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:32:06pm
49 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:32:07pm

At first I thought there's no way to make this enforceable but.....

Michael Matheson, the SNP MSP, said it was important that the police and football clubs were aware of the sinister background of the song and took action against groups who used it in matches.

But opposition politicians and football fans ridiculed the critics of the ditty. Murdo Fraser, deputy leader of the Scottish Tories, said: "I can't believe Scottish children performing the Hokey Cokey are doing so in pursuit of any sort of anti-Catholic agenda."


They routinely prosecute "racist" and inappropriate chants at football games. Since they have cameras everywhere they put the offender's pictures on TV. Along with fines they can also be banned from attending games. I've seen bans as much a 10 years but lifetime bans are probably possible too.

50 2by2  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:32:20pm

re: #29 MandyManners

Stone them!

I'd like to see a whole soccer stadium doing that (the hokey pokey) must look hilarious.

51 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:32:21pm

re: #29 MandyManners

Stone them!

Stone him!

52 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:32:42pm

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

Tell you what; you do the Time Warp, I'll do the Time Weft, and we'll see what we can weave.

A twin-set? if so, I'm all there.

53 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:32:42pm

re: #38 reine.de.tout

Why, yes, I think he does.

In fact, I feel a good seethe coming on any minute now.


Ha!

54 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:32:48pm

Will they outlaw the funky chicken next? Now that would be progress.

55 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:32:51pm

Charles,

The Hokey Pokey.

We’ve always known it as an expression of profound despair, in which all of existence, indeed, all of life itself, is reduced to a series of jerky ritualistic moves in a macabre nihilistic parody of “dance” ... culminating in a statement of ultimate bleak emptiness:

That’s what it’s all about.

This is quite brilliant.

Bravo.

56 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:32:51pm

re: #42 mbpaul

Oh come on. I always hated the Hokey Pokey but this makes me want to go out and do it.

Aw, c'mon!
It's fun!
Local skating rink always has a "hokey-pokey" moment - all the skaters have to line up and do the hokey-pokey.

It is incredibly silly, and so much fun.

57 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:33:01pm

re: #50 2by2

I'd like to see a whole soccer stadium doing that (the hokey pokey) must look hilarious.

I couldn't find a clip of that.

58 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:33:02pm

re: #36 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, that was the justification by two women onboard who were "offended." Of course, several generations of people only know catch a tiger, and were surprised to hear there ever was another version.

It's like I said earlier, they had to assume that every single person using the term is acquainted with all of its history, including any racist associations, and of course means to imply all those associations by using the term.

59 victor_yugo  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:33:16pm

This "Puritans mocking Catholic priests at Mass" sounds about as credible as "Ring Around the Rosey" being about the bubonic plague.

(It's really a great big ring around Rosey O'Donnell, indicating the minimum safe distance for short-term exposure.)

60 WhiteRasta  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:33:26pm

I was in the place formerly known as Great Britain, recently.

The place reminds me of what Germany would have been like in 1936.

Seriously. They are bat-shit, freaking nuts there.

61 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:33:28pm
62 CBCOOK076251  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:33:32pm

So why is this being placed on here, I think everybody is trying to be like FARK these days.

This is news worthy of LGF?

63 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:33:53pm

re: #40 hermit

Cardinal Keith O'Brien

64 Desert Dog  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:33:58pm

re: #51 lifeofthemind

Stone him!

Stoned

65 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:34:09pm

re: #36 buzzsawmonkey

Well, the original--or at least earlier--lyrics to that were "catch a n***** by the toe."

True, but I for one NEVER heard that version until the dust-up. I always heard "catch a monkey by his toe" in the counting games to determine "it" for hide-and-seek, etc.

Just for my curiosity, have any of you ever heard the following:

My mom and your mom were hanging out clothes.
My mom socked your mom right in the nose.
What color was the blood? (whoever's hand is counted chooses a color, which is spelled out, for example, "purple")
PURPLE spells purple and you are not the one to be it.

This is from circa 1968 in Baltimore. I"ve never found anyone else who knew it as a kid.

66 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:34:54pm

re: #59 victor_yugo

This "Puritans mocking Catholic priests at Mass" sounds about as credible as "Ring Around the Rosey" being about the bubonic plague.

(It's really a great big ring around Rosey O'Donnell, indicating the minimum safe distance for short-term exposure.)

I cannot for the life of me figure out which part of the Mass it is supposed to be mocking.

I have attended Catholic Mass all my life, and I have no clue which motions the hokey-pokey is supposed to represent.

67 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:34:55pm

re: #41 doppelganglander

Interesting. I thought "The Pale" was a similar line in Ireland beyond which the English had no ability to enforce the law.

Yes, and it was used the same way. The Irish lived "beyond to pale" and being beyond the pale was acting all Irish as stuff.

So it truly was anti-Catholic.

Heck, maybe the Hokey Pokey WAS written as an anti-Catholic diddy. It isn't one now and I can say with confidence that 99.999999% of the people using it don't mean it that way.

68 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:35:01pm

re: #56 reine.de.tout

Aw, c'mon!
It's fun!
Local skating rink always has a "hokey-pokey" moment - all the skaters have to line up and do the hokey-pokey.

It is incredibly silly, and so much fun.

agreed...they will have to pry my cold dead hands off my Hokey Pokey....

69 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:35:07pm

Labor are such idiots they may even perform a miracle, the could bring the Scottish Tories back to life.

70 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:35:09pm

re: #62 CBCOOK076251

This is news worthy of LGF?


We had quite heated debate about this kind of thing earlier today. I think it raises some interesting questions.

71 swamprat  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:35:11pm
72 Timbre  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:35:12pm

I'd like to see William Donohue doing the Hokey Pokey on the O'Reilly Factor. What fun!

73 Shug  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:35:18pm

They're more worried about this song than when priests were giving the hokey pokey to 6 year olds

74 WhiteRasta  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:35:43pm

re: #62 CBCOOK076251

You are missing the point of how insane the world has gone.

75 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:35:52pm
76 WitchDoctor  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:36:03pm

As a Catholic I see this as crazy. I also see this as Scottish-crazy since I have not heard the Pope come out and condemn it, just some nutty Scotts :) Note the linking to a sporting event in the article. That dog don't hunt.

77 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:36:03pm

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

Sitting here with a nice warm butt
Wearing a twin-set in the Quonset hut...

No snuggie?

Buy one, get one "free".

keep your hands free, while sitting in warmth and comfort.

Made of ultra-soft, cheap fleece.

78 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:36:10pm

re: #62 CBCOOK076251

So why is this being placed on here, I think everybody is trying to be like FARK these days.

This is news worthy of LGF?

fuckin A! Bubba...
/

79 Thanos  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:36:23pm

re: #24 Silhouette

The Pale or the English Pale comprised a region in a radius of twenty miles around Dublin which the English in Ireland gradually fortified against incursion from Gaels. From the thirteenth century onwards the Hiberno-Norman invasion in the rest of Ireland at first faltered then waned, allowing Gaelic Ireland to become resurgent. A mile is a unit of length, usually used to measure distance, in a number of different systems, including Imperial units, United States customary units and Norwegian/Swedish mil. ... The Spire at night WGS-84 (GPS) Coordinates: , Statistics Province: Leinster County: Dáil Éireann: Dublin Central, Dublin North Central, Dublin North East, Dublin North West, Dublin South Central, Dublin South East European Parliament: Dublin Dialling Code: 01, +353 1 Postal District(s): D1-24, D6W Area: 114. ... Motto (French) God and my right Anthem No official anthem - the United Kingdom anthem God Save the Queen is commonly used England() – on the European continent() – in the United Kingdom() Capital (and largest city) London (de facto) Official languages English (de facto) Unified - by Athelstan 927 AD Area - Total 130... The Gaels are an ethno-linguistic group which spread from Ireland to many parts of Britain, specifically Scotland, the Isle of Man, Wales and Cornwall. ... The term Hiberno-Norman is used of those Norman lords who settled in Ireland, admitting little if any real fealty to the Anglo-Norman settlers in England. ...


The word pale derives ultimately from the Latin word palus, meaning stake. (Palisade is derived from the same root.) From this came the figurative meaning of "boundary", and eventually the phrase "beyond the pale". Also derived from the "boundary" concept was the idea of a pale as an area within which local laws were valid. As well as the Pale in Ireland, the term was applied to various other English colonial settlements, and the Pale of Settlement, the area in the west of Imperial Russia where Jews were permitted to reside.

80 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:36:29pm
Now politicians have urged police to arrest anyone using the song to “taunt” Catholics under legislation designed to prevent incitement to religious hatred.

They'd better bring a lot of handcuffs to Lane Stadium.

81 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:36:39pm

re: #67 Silhouette

Yes, and it was used the same way. The Irish lived "beyond to pale" and being beyond the pale was acting all Irish as stuff.

So it truly was anti-Catholic.

Heck, maybe the Hokey Pokey WAS written as an anti-Catholic diddy. It isn't one now and I can say with confidence that 99.999999% of the people using it don't mean it that way.

See my #33.

82 Alouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:36:47pm

I always thought the "Hokey Pokey" song was really lame, until I heard my little granddaughter sing it in Yiddish.

83 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:36:52pm

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

Sitting here with a nice warm butt
Wearing a twin-set in the Quonset hut...

Is there no word you could not elevate?

84 capitalist piglet  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:36:52pm

re: #62 CBCOOK076251

So why is this being placed on here, I think everybody is trying to be like FARK these days.

This is news worthy of LGF?

Hey, good news is good news.

85 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:37:03pm

re: #66 reine.de.tout

I cannot for the life of me figure out which part of the Mass it is supposed to be mocking.

I have attended Catholic Mass all my life, and I have no clue which motions the hokey-pokey is supposed to represent.

It has been said that ...it has to do with when the mass was said in Latin and the priest's back was to the congregation and basically all you could see were his hand gestures ...pretty lame ...

86 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:37:18pm
Criticism of the Hokey Cokey follows a long-running row over the singing by some Rangers fans of the Famine Song, which refers to the famine that left one million dead in Ireland and led to mass migration in the mid-19th century.

Despicable scumbag Euro football fans. I'm shocked I tell ya.

87 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:37:23pm
88 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:37:25pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

Cardinal Keith O'Brien

thanks...researching him now...

89 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:37:27pm

re: #62 CBCOOK076251

So why is this being placed on here, I think everybody is trying to be like FARK these days.

This is news worthy of LGF?

GET YOUR OWN BLEEPING BLOG.

90 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:37:41pm
91 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:37:49pm

re: #87 lifeofthemind

Everybody must get Stoned

killa!

92 Timbre  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:39:10pm

re: #85 JacksonTn

It has been said that ...it has to do with when the mass was said in Latin and the priest's back was to the congregation and basically all you could see were his hand gestures ...pretty lame ...

Some bloggers suggest "hocus pocus" is a deliberate corruption of the Latin phrase at the Catholic consecration of the Eurcharist, "hoc est (enim) corpus (meum)."

93 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:39:13pm

What's all this Hocus Pocus ?

94 victor_yugo  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:39:18pm

re: #62 CBCOOK076251

This is news worthy of LGF?

It's Charles' site, not yours. If he wants to post about his pet cactus growing half an inch in the last two years, then by definition it's news worthy of LGF.

95 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:39:24pm
96 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:39:27pm

re: #90 buzzsawmonkey

How can I keep from singing?

I'd never want you to.

As I posted the other day, we need to bottle you.

97 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:40:23pm

re: #59 victor_yugo

This "Puritans mocking Catholic priests at Mass" sounds about as credible as "Ring Around the Rosey" being about the bubonic plague.

(It's really a great big ring around Rosey O'Donnell, indicating the minimum safe distance for short-term exposure.)

As a former health physics technician in the nuclear industry I can assure you there is no minimum safe distance for short-term exposure to Rosy O'Donnell. Exposure may not be fatal, but it is toxic and will make you very sick.

98 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:40:36pm

re: #82 Alouette

I always thought the "Hokey Pokey" song was really lame, until I heard my little granddaughter sing it in Yiddish.

Well, I will say this:
You've heard nothing until you've heard the zydeco song "Don't Mess with my Toot-Toot", sung in Spanish at one place in Mexico where the cruise I was on docked for the day.

99 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:40:38pm

re: #95 Silhouette

That's what it is all about

With TUBAS?

100 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:40:51pm

re: #62 CBCOOK076251

So why is this being placed on here, I think everybody is trying to be like FARK these days.

This is news worthy of LGF?

Except for a 737 running off the runway in Denver, it's been kind of a slow news day.

101 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:40:59pm

re: #97 doriangrey

As a former health physics technician in the nuclear industry I can assure you there is no minimum safe distance for short-term exposure to Rosy O'Donnell. Exposure may not be fatal, but it is toxic and will make you very sick.

A NOAEL of zero?

102 Floral Giraffe  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:41:06pm

I am just thinking of this as "practice" for the next 4 years. It's gonna be SO weird.........

103 victor_yugo  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:41:31pm

re: #79 Thanos

The word pale derives ultimately from the Latin word palus, meaning stake. (Palisade is derived from the same root.)

And "impale."

104 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:41:41pm

re: #96 MandyManners

I'd never want you to.

As I posted the other day, we need to bottle you.

BuzzBrew...guaranteed to get it done

105 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:41:52pm

needed: more sensitivity training.

106 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:41:54pm

re: #99 MandyManners

With TUBAS?

How do you do it?

107 dammad  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:42:04pm

Whaaa? I'm a Catholic - you can mock me all you want! I always felt we were pretty "cool" about what others thought until I read this nonsense. Startin' to sound like Muslims.

108 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:42:06pm

re: #97 doriangrey

As a former health physics technician in the nuclear industry I can assure you there is no minimum safe distance for short-term exposure to Rosy O'Donnell. Exposure may not be fatal, but it is toxic and will make you very sick.

Rosie make me projectile vomit after exposure of less than a minute.

109 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:42:23pm

re: #105 FrogMarch

needed: more sensitivity training.

I'm pretty sure the cure is what it always is to every crisis.

More Socialism!

110 WhiteRasta  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:42:23pm

re: #100 Jetpilot1101

Good point!

it is also good to point out how insane the Brits and Euro-Wankers have become.

111 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:42:28pm

re: #72 Timbre

Bill Donahue is the Catholic version of CAIR. Their utopia is my nightmare.

112 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:42:41pm

re: #92 Timbre

Some bloggers suggest "hocus pocus" is a deliberate corruption of the Latin phrase at the Catholic consecration of the Eurcharist, "hoc est (enim) corpus (meum)."

Yes ...aren't the Catholics the original despised religion ...

113 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:42:44pm

re: #107 dammad

Whaaa? I'm a Catholic - you can mock me all you want! I always felt we were pretty "cool" about what others thought until I read this nonsense. Startin' to sound like Muslims.

No, now we need to "seethe".
/

114 Timbre  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:42:49pm

re: #99 MandyManners

Dancing Tubas are about the best sight I've ever seen!

115 Syrah  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:43:22pm

re: #62 CBCOOK076251

So why is this being placed on here, I think everybody is trying to be like FARK these days.

This is news worthy of LGF?

Yes.

That such a thing is not a joke IS newsworthy.

If they can make it a crime to sing such a silly song because some people find it religiously offensive, then there are no limits and religious freedom will become a thing remembered and spoken of only in hushed whispers.

116 solomonpanting  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:43:30pm

I don't suppose this will lead to labeling as offensive The Beatles' Hey Jewd.

117 Thanos  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:43:41pm

Before you go overboard condemning the Pale in it's various original forms, please remember what is beyond Israel's borders. Sometimes good fences make better neighbors, sometimes not.

118 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:43:48pm

re: #104 albusteve

BuzzBrew...guaranteed to get it done

More like a fine perfume or a nice cognac.

119 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:43:56pm

re: #111 Killgore Trout

Bill Donahue is the Catholic version of CAIR. Their utopia is my nightmare.

Any theocracy is my nightmare, catholic, christian or muslim.

120 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:44:15pm

re: #106 Silhouette

How do you do it?

Nekkid.

121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:44:15pm

re: #114 Timbre

Dancing Tubas are about the best sight I've ever seen!

If we shut down the dancing tubas, would that be a "Tuba Ligation"?

122 Shug  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:44:18pm

re: #62 CBCOOK076251

Congratulations. You beat cognito for shittiest post of the day.

Now that's newsworthy!

123 Last Mohican  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:44:42pm

re: #59 victor_yugo

This "Puritans mocking Catholic priests at Mass" sounds about as credible as "Ring Around the Rosey" being about the bubonic plague.

(It's really a great big ring around Rosey O'Donnell, indicating the minimum safe distance for short-term exposure.)

Either way, we should outlaw it. Many of our ancestors suffered and died because of the bubonic plague, and should be a hate crime to make that into a game. And virtually all of us have suffered because of Rosey O'Donnell, at one time or another.

124 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:44:51pm

re: #114 Timbre

Dancing Tubas are about the best sight I've ever seen!

Blew me away.

I'm still looking for soccer hooligans singing it.

125 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:45:11pm

re: #98 reine.de.tout

I heard that song for the first time in Longview, TX and it stuck in my brain. When my youngest was a baby, she was colicky and sad a lot of the time, but I would sing that to her and skip around the house, she would LAUGH. It was great.

126 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:45:26pm

re: #120 MandyManners

Nekkid.

Well, I suppose it gives you more to shake about.

But don't knock tubas until you've tried it.

127 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:45:29pm

re: #118 MandyManners

More like a fine perfume or a nice cognac.

i'm becoming amorous...

128 Last Mohican  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:45:41pm

re: #116 solomonpanting

I don't suppose this will lead to labeling as offensive The Beatles' Hey Jewd.

Ban it! Ban it! Hate crime! Hate crime!

129 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:45:49pm

Hocus Pocus Alimagocus!

My kids loved this show, called Today's Special.

130 itellu3times  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:45:57pm

OK, so you don't put your right hand in.

131 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:46:03pm

re: #125 ArmyWife

I heard that song for the first time in Longview, TX and it stuck in my brain. When my youngest was a baby, she was colicky and sad a lot of the time, but I would sing that to her and skip around the house, she would LAUGH. It was great.

LOL!
That song is indeed, unfortunately, one that will stick in your brain. For way longer than it ought to.

132 dammad  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:46:54pm

re: #119 Jetpilot1101

With all due respect; there are no anti-theocracists in foxholes.

133 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:47:10pm

Okay - I think I have it now....this Cardinal Keith O'Brien has been a strong opponent to abortion and stem cell research, so the British press has enjoyed pot-shotting him. He did not apparently sponsor this legislation as the revised article now shows... the Cardinal's spokesman is quoted:

"This song does have quite disturbing origins. Although apparently innocuous, it was devised as an attack on and a parody of the Catholic mass.

"If there are moves to restore its more malevolent meaning then consideration should perhaps be given to its wider use."

I think the British Press is playing its readers and heaving a styrofoam boulder at the Catholic Cardinal....

134 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:47:13pm

re: #131 reine.de.tout

LOL!
That song is indeed, unfortunately, one that will stick in your brain. For way longer than it ought to.

There oughta be a support group for that.

And reparations. Yeah, that's it. Big reparations.

135 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:47:54pm

Wait a second. This is silly. This is in no way mocking Catholic priests. When I was young, back in Brooklyn NY, I use to dance to this song all the time at the roller skating rink. And I never saw any priest celebrating mass on skates.

Someone is lying.

136 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:48:03pm

re: #131 reine.de.tout

But it wasn't David Hasselhoff, so there is a few bonus points there!

137 Timbre  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:48:15pm

re: #124 MandyManners

Blew me away.

I'm still looking for soccer hooligans singing it.

"You poke 'em in the eyes while you cussin' 'em out,
then you smash 'em on the head while you sing and shout!"

138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:48:25pm
139 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:48:36pm

re: #135 Walter L. Newton

You were in the wrong Diocese!

140 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:48:50pm

Lizzie Borden took an axe
and gave her Mother 40 whacks.
When she saw what she had done
She gave her Father forty-one.


Arrest me ...

141 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:49:11pm

re: #132 dammad

With all due respect; there are no anti-theocracists in foxholes.

There are no "atheists" in foxholes but even I would not want a theocracy to save me from my predicament.

Belief is different then a theocracy. I am a Christian but even I do not want to be governed under a Christian state.

The problem with a theocracy is the guys/gals in charge all think they are "theo".

142 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:49:50pm

re: #135 Walter L. Newton

Wait a second. This is silly. This is in no way mocking Catholic priests. When I was young, back in Brooklyn NY, I use to dance to this song all the time at the roller skating rink. And I never saw any priest celebrating mass on skates.

Someone is lying.

almost everybody is lying..."that's what it's all about"...

143 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:49:52pm

re: #139 ArmyWife

You were in the wrong Diocese!

LOLLLLL

144 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:49:54pm

Check out the 1st SIX pages on Google search -- all British press hating the Cardinal's stance. Laser lock....

145 CIA Reject  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:49:58pm

re: #133 hermit

Okay - I think I have it now....this Cardinal Keith O'Brien has been a strong opponent to abortion and stem cell research, so the British press has enjoyed pot-shotting him. He did not apparently sponsor this legislation as the revised article now shows... the Cardinal's spokesman is quoted:

I think the British Press is playing its readers and heaving a styrofoam boulder at the Catholic Cardinal....

They are setting up a strawman.

And a piss-poor one at that.

146 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:50:07pm

Let us put on the potentially cracked conspiracy hunting political hat and consider why the political left in the UK would be promulgating such stupidity, As always start with cui bono and if he doesn't answer go to Sonny Bono and work your way around from Sonny to Fredo until you get someone to talk. The left are trying to manufacture a Bogey Man of radical Protestant knuckle draggers in the UK the same way they try to hunt for crazy veterans and homicidal white trash in America. They hope to inflame fear and panic in Irish Catholics and secular liberals to build a coalition before they get swept out in the net election.

147 dammad  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:50:08pm

re: #141 Jetpilot1101

I was just jokin'......

148 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:50:14pm

re: #126 Silhouette

Well, I suppose it gives you more to shake about.

But don't knock tubas until you've tried it.

When I wasn't twirling my batons, I was in the brass section, on either the trumpet or mellphone.

149 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:50:19pm

re: #120 MandyManners

Nekkid.

*thud*

150 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:50:26pm

re: #32 ArmyWife

This is what I thought, too. Actually, the first time Mr. ArmyWife thought he might be getting somewhere with me, he asked me if I was interested in going to his apartment for some "hokey pokey". Oh the romance of our youth!

(I wish I was making this up, but really, it's fact)

I thought that was "hanky panky".

151 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:50:28pm

re: #127 albusteve

Cold shower?

152 rawmuse  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:50:29pm

I am old enough to know by now, that the Hokey Pokey really what it is all about.

153 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:50:39pm

re: #147 dammad

I was just jokin'......

I know, just explaining my point.

154 Palandine  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:51:01pm

Oh, dear Lord.

As a Catholic, I'd like to encourage my Scottish brethren to concentrate more on bringing Britain back to its Judeo-Christian roots rather than go on risible crusades against a silly dance.

Next up for the Scottish Church--the horrific true meaning behind the Chicken Dance.

155 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:51:13pm

re: #101 Silhouette

A NOAEL of zero?

Hello..... Rosy O'Donnell....... Try more like a negative NOAEL..... Just remembering her bloviating constitutes a toxic exposure.

156 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:51:14pm

re: #107 dammad

I always felt we were pretty "cool" about what others thought until I read this nonsense.


There are still elements like Bill Donahue and even the Pope isn't the biggest supporter of free speech.

157 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:51:41pm

re: #135 Walter L. Newton

Wait a second. This is silly. This is in no way mocking Catholic priests. When I was young, back in Brooklyn NY, I use to dance to this song all the time at the roller skating rink. And I never saw any priest celebrating mass on skates.

Someone is lying.

OT, but commenting on my own post, if you really want to see something funny, watch a bunch of 8 year old on roller skates trying to do the Hokey Pokey.

You put you right skate in, you put your right skate out, you put your right skate in and you shake it all... thump.

158 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:52:17pm

re: #154 Palandine

Next up for the Scottish Church--the horrific true meaning behind the Chicken Dance.

I'm keeping an eye on the Electric Slide too. Can't be too careful.

159 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:52:36pm

Jesus Fucking Christ, do these oxygen thieves have nothing better to do? The "Hokey Pokey" is a little children's game of song and dance. Now it is being called a "hate crime". Give me a fucking break, If these sons of bitches have nothing better, fire their sorry asses, find them something suitable for their talents and interests. Something like, hmmm, sucking donkey-dick for a dime a herd.

Everybody wins. The morons well-intentioned do goodres will be providing a difficult task for the betterment of society, and the donkeys will walk around town with a shit-eating grin wondering what the fun was going to be like tomorrow.

And people say I don't have the required diplomatic experience to be a CEO of something important.

Like General Motors.

They don't know the half of it.

160 CIA Reject  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:52:54pm

re: #154 Palandine

Oh, dear Lord.

As a Catholic, I'd like to encourage my Scottish brethren to concentrate more on bringing Britain back to its Judeo-Christian roots rather than go on risible crusades against a silly dance.

Next up for the Scottish Church--the horrific true meaning behind the Chicken Dance.

Check out Hermit's #133: this is all about the British press trying to undermine the credibility of a Scottish Cardinal.

161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:52:55pm

re: #154 Palandine

Chickens certainly do not appreciate the breaking of the wishbone. They find it to be an offensive and intentionally barbaric tradition..

162 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:53:01pm
163 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:53:13pm

re: #114 Timbre

Dancing Tubas are about the best sight I've ever seen!

Hokie?

164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:53:44pm

Where the heck is Scottishbuzzsaw?

165 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:54:36pm

re: #141 Jetpilot1101

There are no "atheists" in foxholes but even I would not want a theocracy to save me from my predicament.

In America, with our current Constitution, Christians would be better served by atheist (not anti-religion, just honest atheist) politicians. But that would involve a lot of churches having to get off their "collective" hindquarters and do their job instead of trying to get legislated.

166 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:54:37pm
167 EmmmieG  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:54:53pm

The oracle at Delphi used to sit on a stool above a crack in the rock and prophesy. It just so happened that the crack gave forth some interesting gases, causing the prophetess to come up with some really psychadelic ones.

Can someone go check Scotland for cracks in the earth?

168 DEZes  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:55:23pm

I put my left foot in, I put my left foot out...

Biden, 2008.

169 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:55:28pm

re: #159 Iron Fist

Jesus Fucking Christ, do these oxygen thieves have nothing better to do? The "Hokey Pokey" is a little children's game of song and dance. Now it is being called a "hate crime". Give me a fucking break, If these sons of bitches have nothing better, fire their sorry asses, find them something suitable for their talents and interests. Something like, hmmm, sucking donkey-dick for a dime a herd.

Everybody wins. The morons well-intentioned do goodres will be providing a difficult task for the betterment of society, and the donkeys will walk around town with a shit-eating grin wondering what the fun was going to be like tomorrow.

And people say I don't have the required diplomatic experience to be a CEO of something important.

Like General Motors.

They don't know the half of it.

Damn, Iron Fist - doncha think you could at least get a little bit worked up about this?
/

170 dammad  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:55:31pm

re: #156 Killgore Trout

There are always going to be "elements"; but I happen to like my Catholocism; I always feel good after going to mass; it's usually a pretty upbeat and beautiful experience. Do I follow it lock step? Naah..I don't think anyone does. But pro-life I am, yes. Birth control? As Martha says, its a GOOD thing! Ha ha......

171 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:55:44pm

re: #150 Salamantis

perhaps, but in this particular moment of suave and debonaireness, hokey pokey is what he said. I don't think I had ever laughed so hard - except the night he met me and told me he was going to marry me.

172 itellu3times  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:55:55pm

re: #140 JacksonTn

Lizzie Borden took an axe
and gave her Mother 40 whacks.
When she saw what she had done
She gave her Father forty-one.


Arrest me ...

Why? You seem so interested in equality, sensitive, your feelings are open, you are engaged in your environment, seem just about a model citizen. A poet and historian, too!
/

173 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:56:04pm

re: #165 hermit

In America, with our current Constitution, Christians would be better served by atheist (not anti-religion, just honest atheist) politicians. But that would involve a lot of churches having to get off their "collective" hindquarters and do their job instead of trying to get legislated.

I couldn't agree more. It wold force Christians to actually be Christians and not just play church on Sundays.

174 rawmuse  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:56:15pm

re: #99 MandyManners

With TUBAS?

Technically, Sousaphones.

175 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:56:19pm

re: #109 Silhouette

I'm pretty sure the cure is what it always is to every crisis.

More Socialism!

1-800-Hate-hokey

call the Hokey Pokey hate hotline and report the damage.

176 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:56:20pm

re: #151 MandyManners

Cold shower?

and a severe beating with my luffa....oh boy!

177 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:56:21pm
178 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:56:28pm

What if a female Creationist does the Hokey Pokey on the Sabbath while eating a ham sandwich and not wearing a burka?

Apocalypse Now!

179 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:57:03pm

re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Where the heck is Scottishbuzzsaw?

Down the road from Scotishjigsaw and across the valley from Scottish Tablesaw?

180 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:57:17pm

re: #154 Palandine

Oh, dear Lord.

As a Catholic, I'd like to encourage my Scottish brethren to concentrate more on bringing Britain back to its Judeo-Christian roots rather than go on risible crusades against a silly dance.

Next up for the Scottish Church--the horrific true meaning behind the Chicken Dance.

Did you mean the TECHNO CHICKEN DANCE?

if so you may be onto something.

181 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:57:21pm

re: #157 Walter L. Newton

OT, but commenting on my own post, if you really want to see something funny, watch a bunch of 8 year old on roller skates trying to do the Hokey Pokey.

You put you right skate in, you put your right skate out, you put your right skate in and you shake it all... thump.

Roller skating and hokey pokey are as American as mom and apple pie.

182 Quilly Mammoth  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:57:24pm

So when they get to the part "put your left hand in..." is it insulting to Muslims?

183 Last Mohican  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:57:53pm

re: #95 Silhouette

That's what it is all about

Excellent! I guess that must be the Virginia Tech Hokies' marching band. It's almost inevitable that this would become their theme song. Because they're such a racist Catholic-mocking school and everything, I mean.

I'm gonna head over to YouTube and see if I can find anything on the Macarena College band.

184 3 wood  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:57:58pm

Hong Kong banks are hiking interest rates:

Fed cuts not making money cheaper in Hong Kong

HONG KONG (MarketWatch) -- Interest rate cuts in the U.S. are keenly watched in Hong Kong as the currency's peg to the greenback means we must follow the Federal Reserve. Typically, each time Ben Bernanke pulls his interest-rate lever, asset markets receive another shot of adrenalin as cheaper money reaches Hong Kong.

But it looks as if the Fed's ability to transmit the magic of cheap money to Hong Kong is waning. Property buyers, for one, are not going to get cheaper money this time round, as instead, banks are hiking lending rates and cutting credit.

While the Hong Kong Monetary Authority last week followed the Fed's rate cut with a 100-basis-point cut of its own, bringing its overnight discount-window down to 0.5%, major banks in town were unmoved.

Interestingly enough, the gambling houses in Hong Kong are doing record business.

Last week betting turnover for horse racing in Hong Kong hit a six-year high, despite the economic downturn, as bettors gambled more than HK$1 billion (US$129 million) on the Cathay Pacific Cup at Sha Tin.

What all this means is many Hong Kong investors are keeping their cash out of the banking system and investing it anywhere else they think they can get some kind of return.


Incedentally, the Hong Kong Hang Seng stock index is down 2.39% tonight.

185 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:58:09pm

re: #166 ploome hineni

Politician caught in the act.

186 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:58:11pm
187 solomonpanting  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:58:24pm

re: #182 Quilly Mammoth

So when they get to the part "put your left hand in..." is it insulting to Muslims?


Hey! Wipe that grin off your face.

188 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:58:26pm

The tizzy the British press was hoping for - "look at those stupid Catholics, always trying to take away our freedoms!" First abortion and now our treasured SONG!

Do not fall for this. If you are Catholic, do not think that this Cardinal has requested this in any way. If you find that he did...please link.

189 twincitiesgirl  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:58:27pm

And something even more tragic.....

Never-Ending Conga Line

190 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:58:30pm

re: #178 IslandLibertarian

What if a female Creationist does the Hokey Pokey on the Sabbath while eating a ham sandwich and not wearing a burka?

Exchange ham sandwich for Jim Beam, and I have done that.

Many times.

191 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:58:36pm

re: #181 FrogMarch

Roller skating and hokey pokey are as American as mom and apple pie.

You got that. And it's also good for shaking out the clumsy ones.

192 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:58:43pm

re: #182 Quilly Mammoth

So when they get to the part "put your left hand in..." is it insulting to Muslims?

When they think you are referring to getting it chopped off for stealing.

193 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:58:45pm

re: #182 Quilly Mammoth

So when they get to the part "put your left hand in..." is it insulting to Muslims?

For all I know, those 18th century puritans (?!?) were equal opportunity mockers.

194 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:59:06pm

This PC crap is unreal. Next Thing ya know Virginia Tech won't be able to be the Hokies.

195 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:59:12pm

re: #187 solomonpanting

Hey! Wipe that grin off your face.

with your left hand...

196 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:59:22pm

Britland is capping its freedoms and telling people to like it. People who actually dont like it are already moving with their feet because they can. I however do feel sorry for the people who are left when the Islamists get voted into power.

197 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:59:32pm

re: #191 Walter L. Newton

You got that. And it's also good for shaking out the clumsy ones.

That's what the carpeted walls are for.

198 Last Mohican  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:59:41pm

re: #166 ploome hineni

A researcher adjusts a plastic tank on the back of a cow, in attempt to capture its gases for global warming research, on the outskirts of Buenos Aires, July 4, 2008

Do they make those in human sizes? I just thought of a perfect Christmas gift for a certain coworker of mine.

199 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 5:59:48pm
201 Shug  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:00:21pm

I think we should do eenie meenie minie moe to determine whether or not the hokey pokey is offensive or not

202 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:00:36pm

re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Somebody hand me a match.

The cow jumped over the moooooooooooo........

203 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:00:44pm

oh yeah. We need big government, free health care, sensitivity training, union bosses with 2500 pages of business killing rules, gimme gimme dolts who promote gimme gimme on Air America, Barney Frank and the hOkey Pokey. That's what it's all about.

haters.

204 CIA Reject  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:00:45pm

re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Somebody hand me a match.

Bovine space program!

205 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:08pm

My aunt, the Irish Catholic nun, does the hokey pokey. She'll be very confused by all this.

206 Outrider  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:08pm

re: #171 ArmyWife

perhaps, but in this particular moment of suave and debonaireness, hokey pokey is what he said. I don't think I had ever laughed so hard - except the night he met me and told me he was going to marry me.

huh. You and my wife both. I told her the day I met her I was going to marry her. She laughed too. We been married since Feb 6, 1976.
(Tell Top - spot on with instinct! )

Funny how that works eh? ;-)>

207 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:15pm

I liked this one ....

One potato, two potato, ...

208 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:17pm

re: #137 Timbre

"You poke 'em in the eyes while you cussin' 'em out,
then you smash 'em on the head while you sing and shout!"

Video?

209 dammad  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:29pm

re: #159 Iron Fist

Please try not to write Jesus blank Christ....it truly is insulting; and I don't meant to be all uptight, but it really bothers me to even see that in print; maybe as a courtesy to those of us who worship him?

210 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:29pm
211 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:33pm

re: #201 Shug

I think we should do eenie meenie minie moe to determine whether or not the hokey pokey is offensive or not

He said that bad word mommy ! Eenie and Meenie ! Can I report him to the judicial authorities .. mommy?

212 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:33pm

re: #199 ploome hineni

lol

someone sticks a tube up that poor cow to catch the methane, and the cow want to eat the waffle

lol

that's a big dad-gummed tank!

213 solomonpanting  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:34pm

re: #194 Pvt Bin Jammin

This PC crap is unreal. Next Thing ya know Virginia Tech won't be able to be the Hokies.

And Gumby's sidekick won't be able to called Pokey.

214 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:49pm

re: #194 Pvt Bin Jammin

This PC crap is unreal. Next Thing ya know Virginia Tech won't be able to be the Hokies.

This is more about the British Nanny State than the Catholic Church. They have been rapidly eroding the citizenry's freedoms and would love to blame a "common" enemy, but don't blame any muslims....stupid dhimmi press-tards!

215 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:54pm

I waiting for the terrible secret of rock, paper, scissors.

216 MJ  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:01:55pm

The British don't seem to mind one iota that it has become a haven for Islamic extremism, anti-Western terrorism, and Left-wing antisemitism, but they are concerned about the Hokey Pokey.

217 Timbre  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:02:04pm

re: #189 twincitiesgirl

LOL, LOL, LOL!

218 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:02:11pm

re: #207 JacksonTn

I liked this one ....

One potato, two potato, ...

SIEZE HIM!....

219 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:02:21pm

re: #149 Noam Sayin'

*thud*

*slap...slap*

220 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:02:28pm

re: #213 solomonpanting

And Gumby's sidekick won't be able to called Pokey.

OMG that's even worse. LOL

221 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:02:28pm

re: #197 FrogMarch

That's what the carpeted walls are for.

What carpet? The places I skated had hard gypsum or concrete walls. And just for fun, a lot of load bearing columns.

222 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:02:37pm

My fellow Americans I will not tremble, I will not hesitate, I will not equivocate. I will stand foursquare and defend the right of college co-eds to dance the Hokey-Pokey. I thank you and God bless America.

223 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:02:37pm

re: #205 JammieWearingFool

My aunt, the Irish Catholic nun, does the hokey pokey. She'll be very confused by all this.

She won't be alone - for one thing, I'm not sure that they've got their history right.

224 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:02:37pm
225 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:03:04pm

re: #210 ploome hineni

b00b thread

6P6P6P

226 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:03:10pm

re: #206 Outrider

huh. You and my wife both. I told her the day I met her I was going to marry her. She laughed too. We been married since Feb 6, 1976.
(Tell Top - spot on with instinct! )

Funny how that works eh? ;-)>

The Roi didn't tell me when we met that he was going to marry me, but later he told me he knew it as soon as he met me.

How is it you guys know this before we do?

227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:03:16pm

re: #166 ploome hineni

We will fight for, bovine freedom
And hold our large heads high.
We will run free, with the buffalo, or die.
Cows with guns.

-Cow Tse Tongue

228 Outrider  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:03:24pm

re: #210 ploome hineni

b00b thread

that reminds me - I wonder what ever happened to all those missing fake boobs that disappeared last month?

229 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:03:43pm

re: #206 Outrider

I will, he will enjoy that! We've been married 18 1/2 years (we were so young when we got married, and so very stupid!). He still makes me laugh.

230 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:03:56pm

re: #210 ploome hineni

b00b thread

Now that is not in questionable taste.

231 WhiteRasta  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:04:00pm

I seriously think that LGF is one of the last places of sanity in the world.

Has anyone considered that perhaps we are the crazy ones and everyone else is sane?

232 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:04:09pm

re: #174 rawmuse

Technically, Sousaphones.

"Tuba" is easier to say and write.

233 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:04:16pm

re: #188 hermit

It seems the Cardinal is probably a little nutty.

Byers' intervention follows an attack on the proposed legislation by Cardinal Keith O'Brien, the head of the Scottish Catholic church. He will use his Easter Sunday sermon today to accuse Brown of “an unprecedented attack on the sanctity and dignity of human life”, warning that the research could lead to the creation of hybrid babies and experiments of “Frankenstein proportions”.

Winston, one of the world's foremost authorities on human reproductive health, said that the cardinal was deliberately misleading the public.


...and he also seems eager to legislate his morality so this statement about the hokey-pokey doesn't seem terribly out of line for him.

234 avanti  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:04:19pm

When I first read the thread topic, I though it was satire like at Landover Baptist, just like the satire seems real sometimes..

Landover

235 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:04:27pm
236 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:04:33pm

re: #176 albusteve

and a severe beating with my luffa....oh boy!

*face-palm*

237 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:04:41pm

re: #221 Walter L. Newton

What carpet? The places I skated had hard gypsum or concrete walls. And just for fun, a lot of load bearing columns.

ah. State City had this disgusting carpeted wall. you could slam into it.
Concrete walls are seem cruel.

238 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:05:10pm
239 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:05:12pm

re: #231 WhiteRasta

I seriously think that LGF is one of the last places of sanity in the world.

Has anyone considered that perhaps we are the crazy ones and everyone else is sane?

If that is the case then I'm damn proud to be a member of this sanatorium.

240 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:05:20pm

re: #231 WhiteRasta

I seriously think that LGF is one of the last places of sanity in the world.

Has anyone considered that perhaps we are the crazy ones and everyone else is sane?

I have.

Then I wake up.

241 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:05:33pm

re: #235 ploome hineni

lol......(what does that mean?)

You then respond with "36DD."

242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:05:38pm

re: #221 Walter L. Newton

What carpet? The places I skated had hard gypsum or concrete walls. And just for fun, a lot of load bearing columns.

Minefield. And I liked it!

243 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:05:40pm

re: #226 reine.de.tout

Because girls think when "the one" shows up, the rest of the world is supposed to melt away, just like the movies. Usually it doesn't. Guys are more pragmatic.

244 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:05:45pm

Hokey Pokey is the name of a childish line dance
Hocus Pocus is a magical invocation
The two expressions look and sound so similar that they are unlikely to be unrelated.
But unless it is important to someone I can't be bothered to theorize further.

245 Outrider  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:05:54pm

re: #226 reine.de.tout

The Roi didn't tell me when we met that he was going to marry me, but later he told me he knew it as soon as he met me.

How is it you guys know this before we do?

maybe wishful thinking that works out ok? ;-)>

246 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:06:01pm

re: #210 ploome hineni

b00b thread

I had a remenisce moment earlier today. I went back into the archives and found the Playboy model who I really liked in 1990 (yes, pre-historic times .. pre Spice Girls even). Anyway .. this model's name was Peggy McIntaggert. She never did much after the release of the issue .. but as luck would have it she came wedged between Petra Verkaik (best chest ever) and Pamela Anderson (need I say more?). Infinitely forgettable but .. what a chest she had.

247 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:06:11pm

re: #237 FrogMarch

ah. State City had this disgusting carpeted wall. you could slam into it.
Concrete walls are seem cruel.


fixed

248 Shug  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:06:12pm

This Hokey Pokey argument sounds more appropriate for the westboro baptist church than the catholic church


GOD HATES THE HOKEY POKEY

249 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:06:15pm
250 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:06:27pm
251 kcladderman  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:07:13pm

re: #212 reine.de.tout

that's a big dad-gummed tank!

I have an uncle who would need one twice that size.

252 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:07:20pm

I'm getting used to a Britland that seems to hammer fun just because it can.

253 solomonpanting  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:07:26pm

re: #97 doriangrey

As a former health physics technician in the nuclear industry I can assure you there is no minimum safe distance for short-term exposure to Rosy O'Donnell. Exposure may not be fatal, but it is toxic and will make you very sick.

Does it have a half-life, and if so, what is it?

254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:07:31pm

re: #249 ploome hineni

ok

lol

I still don't get it. Though, I imagine I'll survive.

255 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:07:51pm

re: #233 Killgore Trout

It seems the Cardinal is probably a little nutty.


...and he also seems eager to legislate his morality so this statement about the hokey-pokey doesn't seem terribly out of line for him.

Nutty? ...your opinion maybe ...that article is totally political ...he believes one thing ...the other side believes another ...

256 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:07:52pm

re: #215 Silhouette

I waiting for the terrible secret of rock, paper, scissors.

You haven't heard.?...?...

The Rock is St. Peter that the Chuech was built on.
The Paper is the Bible Scriptures.
And the Scissors is the Truth, the truth that I made this all up and this line of bullshit is cut to shreds.

Is anyone offended?
So sue me!

257 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:08:16pm

re: #252 Buster Bunny

I'm getting used to a Britland that seems to hammer fun just because it can.

Refrain. Refrain. Refrain.

258 Sunlight  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:08:28pm

Oooops! We did this at our wedding reception (a fairly long time ago). It was quite amusing because a couple of people almost landed on the floor (it was late in the evening).

PS buzz & ojoe - I had no idea you and some others were so scoutliterate! I went back to the overnight thread and went through it.

259 WhiteRasta  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:08:34pm

Goodnight and may G-d Bless you and keep you all.

My crazy compadres.

260 Geepers  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:08:59pm

Iron Fist (#159),

And people say I don't have the required diplomatic experience to be a CEO of something important.

Like General Motors.

I have a great idea for an all natural methane powered car we can sell to congress as part of the Auto bailout.

Easy Street here we come.

261 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:09:01pm

re: #259 WhiteRasta

Goodnight and may G-d Bless you and keep you all.

My crazy compadres.

Sweet dreams!

262 Palandine  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:09:08pm

re: #233 Killgore Trout

Catholic cardinals who are opposed to cloning and embryonic stem cell research (not stem-cell research using cord blood or adult stem cells) are following Church teaching, not being nutty. Your mileage may vary.

But this hokey pokey thing is genuinely ridiculous.

263 itellu3times  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:09:20pm

re: #244 Spare O'Lake

You put $700,000,000,000 in
You take $700,000,000,000 out
You put $700,000,000,000 in
And you shake it all about,

You do the Hank Paulson,
And you turn the economy around,
And that's what it's all about!

264 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:09:28pm

re: #259 WhiteRasta

Night WR. Don't forget! Don't Mess With My Toot-Toot! (Or Reines, either)

265 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:09:48pm
266 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:10:00pm

re: #263 itellu3times

Now THAT is sacrilege.

267 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:10:18pm

re: #65 goddessoftheclassroom

We had more manly persuits to follow. Things that you wouldn't do, often involving gasoline (Gasoline is the most powerful improvised weapon that doesn't take a armorer and some special equipment do make). Gasoline is fun We used it at parties, when we were out on the lake.

We used to soak tennis balls in high-test, lite 'er up, and throw it at each other. The funny thing about that is that the father of one of my boys was the instigator. Good, clean execrcize and amusement. It's fun.

268 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:10:25pm

re: #255 JacksonTn

He has a reputation for being a politically active provocateur. It's debatable if he's calculating or nutty. The statement still doesn't seem terribly out of line for him from what I can tell.

269 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:10:36pm
270 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:11:00pm

re: #242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Minefield. And I liked it!

For a really fat kid, I was a damn good skater, which was really funny because no one on the rink ever wanted to skate near me. They didn't want me to fall down on them. But I rarely hit the floor. I could spend 4 hours at a skate session and never see blacktop.

271 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:11:30pm

re: #269 taxfreekiller

Make him stop Mom, he is looking at me hard....!

If I hafta' come back there,...

272 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:11:34pm

Further background:
All this by the way on a song about Famine which the Irish found offensive...long history...what it's all about, apparently

‘Famine song’ controversy draws in Irish government
Rangers song ban 'would hit at free speech'
Rangers chief Martin Bain's warning over controversial 'Famine Song'

273 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:11:48pm

Cups and saucers,
Plates and dishes:
Here comes Sally
With her calico britches!

274 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:11:49pm

re: #269 taxfreekiller

Followed by: TFK - This is YOUR side of the car, and this is your brothers. Should either of you cross THIS line, physically or with "eyeballing", I will pull this car over. Do you understand me?

275 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:11:50pm
276 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:11:54pm

re: #270 Walter L. Newton

Cause you were fat! (run away run away!)

277 gregg  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:12:09pm

Making my list, checking it twice. Riots so far (covered here on LGF):

1. Greece
2. Sweden

and now

3. Russia

coming soon (IMO):

4. Spain
5. Italy

278 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:12:23pm

re: #263 itellu3times

You put $700,000,000,000 in
You take $700,000,000,000 out
You put $700,000,000,000 in
And you shake it all about,

You do the Hank Paulson,
And you turn the economy around,
And that's what it's all about!

The economy has turned around? I must have missed that. I was out all day. Where did you see that, CNN?

279 itellu3times  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:12:37pm

re: #266 Silhouette

Now THAT is sacrilege.

Mea maxima boojum.

280 Sunlight  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:12:58pm

re: #277 gregg

Making my list, checking it twice. Riots so far (covered here on LGF):

1. Greece
2. Sweden

and now

3. Russia

coming soon (IMO):

4. Spain
5. Italy

What on earth are they about?

281 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:13:01pm

re: #263 itellu3times

You put $700,000,000,000 in
You take $700,000,000,000 out
You put $700,000,000,000 in
And you shake it all about,

You do the Hank Paulson,
And you turn the economy around,
And that's what it's all about!

Brilliant! LOL.

282 MJ  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:13:03pm

This will be next:

British Leftist to ban the singing of Hava Nagila.

According to Wiki :
"The commonly used text was probably composed by Abraham Zevi (Zvi) Idelsohn in 1918 to celebrate the British victory in Palestine during World War I as well as the Balfour Declaration."

It is therefore a hate crime to dance the Hora.

/

283 itellu3times  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:13:25pm

re: #278 Walter L. Newton

The economy has turned around? I must have missed that. I was out all day. Where did you see that, CNN?

Turned around 360 degrees, don't you feel the dizziness?

284 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:13:26pm
285 LGoPs  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:13:28pm

This hyper-sensitivity is reaching absurd levels - almost comical if it weren't so all pervasive . We need a new, fresh Monty Pythonish bunch of comedians to give it the sarcastic scorn it deserves..........
And the rest of society should start exercising what used to be an effective tool - shunning idiots and ideas like this...

286 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:13:49pm

re: #260 Geepers

Iron Fist (#159),

I have a great idea for an all natural methane powered car we can sell to congress as part of the Auto bailout.

Easy Street here we come.

Yes the Cow Car, a refinement on the Our Gang car (with the dog chasing the cat on a treadmill) This will have an onboard cow and a methane engine, the cow will eat old newspapers soaked in urine (they do a prof told me along with advice not to eat at McDonalds) This fits right in with Obama's Green technology to revive the economy.

287 Luxomni  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:13:50pm

I immediately thought of the hundreds of kids in the late nineteen sixties drying banana peels because electrical bananas were going to be "the very next thing". The Hokey Pokey is just a catchy song, don't go reading more into it than is is.

This country has become too hyper-sensitive.

288 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:14:08pm

re: #278 Walter L. Newton

The economy has turned around? I must have missed that. I was out all day. Where did you see that, CNN?

Wait until 1/20/09, and it'll be all good news, all the time.

Gas and housing are affordable! Low interest and low stock market prices inspiring many Americans previously excluded from the stock market to start investing.

289 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:14:12pm
290 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:14:22pm

re: #276 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cause you were fat! (run away run away!)

I'm far from fat now. I'm about 185, up about 12 pounds since Aug., mostly due to the appetite after I quit smoking. But 2 years ago I was 380, so I'm a bit smaller now. That picture of me in my avatar is 8 years old.

Bastard :)

291 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:14:38pm
292 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:14:38pm

re: #269 taxfreekiller

Make him stop Mom, he is looking at me hard....!

One of my grandkids did that a week or so ago.
I just looked at my daughter-in-law (mom) and said

hahahahahahahahaha!

She, however, was trying to be serious. She clearly stated "I wasn't helping".

hehehehehhehehehhee!
*snerk*

293 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:15:13pm

re: #268 Killgore Trout

He has a reputation for being a politically active provocateur. It's debatable if he's calculating or nutty. The statement still doesn't seem terribly out of line for him from what I can tell.


Um, what statement? about the hokey pokey being banned...I've been researching so I may have missed the link.

294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:15:13pm

re: #284 ploome hineni

I claim at 34 inch waist.

295 kcladderman  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:15:42pm

re: #270 Walter L. Newton

For a really fat kid, I was a damn good skater, which was really funny because no one on the rink ever wanted to skate near me. They didn't want me to fall down on them. But I rarely hit the floor. I could spend 4 hours at a skate session and never see blacktop.

Ah Friday nights at the roller rink. The soulful sounds of the early 70s, the smell of musk in the air(I think everyone wore it in 74) the feathered hair and strawberry lip gloss.What a time to be a young teen boy.

296 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:15:57pm

re: #277 gregg

Making my list, checking it twice. Riots so far (covered here on LGF):

1. Greece
2. Sweden

and now

3. Russia

coming soon (IMO):

4. Spain
5. Italy

What about San Francisco? I hear some Black Bloc types trashed the Westfield San Francisco Center's food court.

In solidarity with the Greeks, they said.

297 kcladderman  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:16:08pm

re: #278 Walter L. Newton

The economy has turned around? I must have missed that. I was out all day. Where did you see that, CNN?

Not until Jan 21st

298 CIA Reject  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:16:12pm

re: #267 Iron Fist

We had more manly persuits to follow. Things that you wouldn't do, often involving gasoline (Gasoline is the most powerful improvised weapon that doesn't take a armorer and some special equipment do make). Gasoline is fun We used it at parties, when we were out on the lake.

We used to soak tennis balls in high-test, lite 'er up, and throw it at each other. The funny thing about that is that the father of one of my boys was the instigator. Good, clean execrcize and amusement. It's fun.

Gasoline was also the weapon used in the worst mass murder in US history. and yet, strangely, there has been no call to register gasoline users or require a background check or a waiting period to purchase gasoline, and it can legally be carried concealed in every county in all fifty states.

Where's the government in all this? I thought they were supposed to protect us. Won't somebody think of the children!?

////////////////////////

299 solomonpanting  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:16:26pm
Several years ago, a canon from Wakefield Cathedral said the dance came from the days when priests celebrated mass with their backs to the congregation and whispered the Latin words of consecration with many hand movements.

re: #263 itellu3times

You put $700,000,000,000 in
You take $700,000,000,000 out
You put $700,000,000,000 in
And you shake it all about,

You do the Hank Paulson,
And you turn the economy around,
And that's what it's all about!


I see this as an attack on Hank Paulson, who would turn his back on the American people, whisper the bailouts words of "How much do you want?", while giving many finger movements to the public.

300 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:16:43pm
301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:16:45pm

re: #290 Walter L. Newton

Bet it is as cold as a coven members 36DD's out there. Am I right, am I right?

302 Thanos  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:17:16pm

Holden Christmas lights display 2008

Carol of the Bells

303 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:17:26pm

re: #284 ploome hineni

Mandy is a sizs 6 petite

I claim 36DD.......so I win

/tatas trump

bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhaha

I'm a 6 (not petite, not with my arms) and I'm a 36B.

Where does that put me in the competition?

304 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:17:39pm

re: #296 Dianna

What about San Francisco? I hear some Black Bloc types trashed the Westfield San Francisco Center's food court.

In solidarity with the Greeks, they said.

Wouldnt it be nice to see most of this stuff on the 6pm news?

305 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:18:14pm

re: #303 Dianna

lacking? ;)

306 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:18:22pm

re: #253 solomonpanting

Does it have a half-life, and if so, what is it?

Rosy herself like all radioactive isotopes does have a half-life cycle, and while her half-life cycle is significantly advanced, the effects of exposure are permanent. Rosy's half life is approximately 6 years. With no safe exposure level that means even the final waning years will remain highly toxic ones.

307 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:18:48pm

re: #233 Killgore Trout

...and he also seems eager to legislate his morality so this statement about the hokey-pokey doesn't seem terribly out of line for him.


Adhere to his morality and guard his flock, but I haven't found any eager to legislate, yet...more research...ping me if you find it 1st.

308 Shug  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:19:17pm

One clue why the Detroit Lions are 0 and 15

The Lions opened the second half with a penalty for breaking the huddle with 12 players


No talent
Even less Coaching

Nuff said.

309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:19:26pm

re: #303 Dianna

I'm a 6 (not petite, not with my arms) and I'm a 36B.

Where does that put me in the competition?

May I paraphrase Tina Turner here?

"What's arms got to do, got to do with it?"

310 Palandine  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:19:30pm

Well, Britain banned guns, and when that didn't result in rainbows and unicorns (I think of Archie Bunker's line about gun crime "Would you prefer they were pushed out of windows?"), they're now trying to ban knives, down to kitchen knives.

This American will defend the Hokey Pokey down to my last fork and spoon. :)

311 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:19:35pm

re: #262 Palandine

People can oppose what they want but he crosses the line into nuttiness on the Frankenstein stuff. He might know better and he's just trying to scare people or he might just be a nut. I can't tell. However your grandchildren (almost certainly your great grandchildren) are going to be "Frankenstein" monstrosities with mouse or pig DNA slpiced in to make them immune to cancer, Alzheimer's, etc. They will live longer, healthier lives no thanks to the Vatican.

312 ArmyWife  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:19:38pm

Ok all, as much as I am enjoying talking about the size of everyone's chest, I am going to go bake a tres leches cake and then hit the sack. Have a great night!

313 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:19:50pm

re: #303 Dianna

I'm a 6 (not petite, not with my arms) and I'm a 36B.

Where does that put me in the competition?

dont know...large breasts are way over rated tho...imo

314 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:20:08pm
315 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:20:15pm

re: #305 ArmyWife

lacking? ;)

OW!

316 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:20:49pm

re: #277 gregg

Making my list, checking it twice. Riots so far (covered here on LGF):

1. Greece
2. Sweden

and now

3. Russia

coming soon (IMO):

4. Spain
5. Italy

Yes Russia is a big story
Putin's pretensions meet reality. He eliminated the local elected governments and concentrated all power in his hands, so now he gets to eat all the blame.

317 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:20:51pm

re: #310 Palandine

Well, Britain banned guns, and when that didn't result in rainbows and unicorns (I think of Archie Bunker's line about gun crime "Would you prefer they were pushed out of windows?"), they're now trying to ban knives, down to kitchen knives.

This American will defend the Hokey Pokey down to my last fork and spoon. :)

We cant do that.

The dish ran away with the spoon.

318 Jetpilot1101  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:20:56pm

Good night lizards, I have to work tomorrow.

Play nice.

319 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:21:00pm
320 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:21:03pm

re: #288 Silhouette

Wait until 1/20/09, and it'll be all good news, all the time.

Gas and housing are affordable! Low interest and low stock market prices inspiring many Americans previously excluded from the stock market to start investing.

The mayor of Denver has frozen all cost of living increases for cops, fireman and other such city workers. The city council just voted themselves a raise a few months ago.

The Congress, by not bringing up the cost of living increase for a vote, got a 4,00 dollar increase.

Prices of all kinds of goods went up with in weeks after gas started to crawl up in price.

Gas prices have fallen about 3 dollars in the last two months.

I was at the super market a little while ago. Interesting, a whole lot of name brands, normally this or that on sale, all suddenly at non-sale prices AND THOSE PRICES ARE UP SINCE LAST WEEK.

Right before the holidays. I was looking to see if Hebrew National no fat franks were on sale. Nope, for a matter of fact, they went up 60 cents in ONE WEEK.

From 4.99 to 5.59.

We are getting fuck, from all sides, in every hole, every day, every place. I'm getting pissed.

321 Shug  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:21:04pm

re: #303 Dianna

I'm a 6 (not petite, not with my arms) and I'm a 36B.

Where does that put me in the competition?


Ahead of Cognito

322 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:21:10pm

re: #306 doriangrey


MWAH!

323 gregg  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:21:17pm

re: #280 Sunlight

What on earth are they about?

The trigger in Greece was a student being shot by police. While the news won't report it, Muslims were protesting in Sweden. Tariffs on autos set it off in Russia. In the end, some feel it all boils down to the economy.

324 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:21:34pm

BBIAM!

325 solomonpanting  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:21:39pm

re: #287 Luxomni

I immediately thought of the hundreds of kids in the late nineteen sixties drying banana peels because electrical bananas were going to be "the very next thing".

Ahhh! They call it mellow yellow....

326 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:21:46pm

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

May I paraphrase Tina Turner here?

"What's arms got to do, got to do with it?"

Ha!

I've got arms like a gibbon. Most of my shirts I can't button the cuffs, because they don't reach my wrists.

327 itellu3times  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:21:47pm

re: #306 doriangrey

Rosy herself like all radioactive isotopes does have a half-life cycle, and while her half-life cycle is significantly advanced, the effects of exposure are permanent. Rosy's half life is approximately 6 years. With no safe exposure level that means even the final waning years will remain highly toxic ones.

But if you accelerate her to 90% of the speed of light and collide her with a lead target ... well, that would explain a lot, come to think of it.

328 Thanos  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:22:23pm

re: #316 lifeofthemind

Yes Russia is a big story
Putin's pretensions meet reality. He eliminated the local elected governments and concentrated all power in his hands, so now he gets to eat all the blame.

You forgot Hamburg, they rioted today as well.

329 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:22:32pm

re: #322 goddessoftheclassroom

Not a lolcat person. That is a striking picture. Caption is funny, but the picture is actually lovely.

330 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:22:54pm

re: #169 reine.de.tout

I am one who is the most placid of man, who is disgusted with the wars and rumors of wars that trap our beautiful planet in a warming cloak of denial, polution from industry, and hate.

Therefore, I am a man who can remain calm even in the gravest situations. I will be calm and collected while the world falls apart. And I'll butcher a man for meat if he harshes my mellow.

331 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:23:11pm

re: #311 Killgore Trout

The Vatican opposes embryonic stem cell research, not stem cell research from other sources.

Your anti-papism is showing, again.

332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:23:18pm

re: #326 Dianna

Got a sock-puppet nic for ya....

Knuckle Draggin' Hottie!

333 Cognito  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:24:28pm

Now that's a fascinating story. A hate crime!

An aberration, I think, but still fascinating.

334 kcladderman  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:24:36pm

re: #331 Dianna

The Vatican opposes embryonic stem cell research, not stem cell research from other sources.

Your anti-papism is showing, again.

It always does.

335 Palandine  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:24:39pm

re: #311 Killgore Trout

Well, I don't have children, sadly, so that's not the case with me. However, I will say I was dismayed when I got a chicken pox vaccination a few years ago and, on reading about it, found out the cells used for the vaccine came from aborted fetuses. The Catholic Church is okay with that, beause the (I believe) six lines of aborted fetuses occured almost 30 years ago, but it did make me sad. Had I known, I might have refused.

You obviously have deeply held beliefs. Those of us who may agree with you on many things also have deeply held beliefs.

336 solomonpanting  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:24:44pm

re: #306 doriangrey

Rosy herself like all radioactive isotopes does have a half-life cycle

I suspected she leads an active life style. I just wasn't aware it was a radioactive one.

337 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:25:02pm

re: #327 itellu3times

But if you accelerate her to 90% of the speed of light and collide her with a lead target ... well, that would explain a lot, come to think of it.

She still melts at 1500 degrees u know.

338 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:25:06pm

re: #301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bet it is as cold as a coven members 36DD's out there. Am I right, am I right?

Three degrees, wind chill -7.

re: #295 kcladderman

Ah Friday nights at the roller rink. The soulful sounds of the early 70s, the smell of musk in the air(I think everyone wore it in 74) the feathered hair and strawberry lip gloss.What a time to be a young teen boy.

No, Sat. night at the roller rink, live organ music, 1950's, whole families.

339 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:25:26pm

re: #319 ploome hineni

actually I agree

I find style and intellect most seductive....not that I have any...

340 Right mind left  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:25:33pm
341 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:25:38pm

Here is a famous Wiccan chant:

Eko, eko, Azarak
Eko, eko, Zomelak
Bazabi lacha bachabe
Lamac cahi achababe
Karrellyos
Lamac lamac Bachalyas
Cabahagy sabalyos
Baryolos
Lagoz atha cabyolas
Samahac atha famolas
Hurrahya!

And here is its history:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

342 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:26:07pm

re: #331 Dianna

The Vatican opposes embryonic stem cell research, not stem cell research from other sources.

Your anti-papism is showing, again.

I thought if that lasted for more than 4 hours you were suppose to call your doctor.

343 kcladderman  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:26:23pm

re: #338 Walter L. Newton

No, Sat. night at the roller rink, live organ music, 1950's, whole families.

Oh yea I read about that in the history books. :-)

344 Taqyia2Me  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:26:32pm

re: #330 Iron Fist

I am one who is the most placid of man, who is disgusted with the wars and rumors of wars that trap our beautiful planet in a warming cloak of denial, polution from industry, and hate.

Therefore, I am a man who can remain calm even in the gravest situations. I will be calm and collected while the world falls apart. And I'll butcher a man for meat if he harshes my mellow.

Words to live by, Iron!

345 LGoPs  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:26:51pm

re: #327 itellu3times

But if you accelerate her to 90% of the speed of light and collide her with a lead target ... well, that would explain a lot, come to think of it.

I would like to set forth the theory that Rosie is Dark Matter and that she constitutes 90% of all the Dark Matter in the universe......

346 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:26:57pm

re: #328 Thanos

You forgot Hamburg, they rioted today as well.

The Hamburgers can't cut the mustard, their buns are toasted.

347 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:27:03pm

re: #342 Walter L. Newton

I thought if that lasted for more than 4 hours you were suppose to call your doctor.

Because it means you're going to die anyway?

348 albusteve  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:27:19pm

re: #338 Walter L. Newton

No, Sat. night at the roller rink, live organ music, 1950's, whole families.

the live organ was always my favorite part of the rink experience

349 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:27:34pm

re: #345 LGoPs

I would like to set forth the theory that Rosie is Dark Matter and that she constitutes 90% of all the Dark Matter in the universe......

I do believe they made the LHC with one of her belts.

350 Alouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:27:49pm

Giant salami menorah

Chocolate menorah

They tried to kill us.
They didn't succeed.
Let's eat!

351 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:27:58pm

re: #282 MJ

This will be next:

British Leftist to ban the singing of Hava Nagila.

According to Wiki :
"The commonly used text was probably composed by Abraham Zevi (Zvi) Idelsohn in 1918 to celebrate the British victory in Palestine during World War I as well as the Balfour Declaration."

It is therefore a hate crime to dance the Hora.

/

Well, fuck that.

352 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:27:58pm

re: #343 kcladderman

Oh yea I read about that in the history books. :-)

Yes, the skate wheels were made of stone, ala Flintstones. Those were the days.

353 Right mind left  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:28:01pm

re: #341 Salamantis

Here is a famous Wiccan chant:

Eko, eko, Azarak
Eko, eko, Zomelak
Bazabi lacha bachabe
Lamac cahi achababe
Karrellyos
Lamac lamac Bachalyas
Cabahagy sabalyos
Baryolos
Lagoz atha cabyolas
Samahac atha famolas
Hurrahya!

And here is its history:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Hey I just read that out loud and a stinky cauldron poofed out of nowhere...

354 LGoPs  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:28:45pm

re: #346 lifeofthemind

The Hamburgers can't cut the mustard, their buns are toasted.

the French'll fry 'em if they're not careful......

355 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:28:57pm

re: #323 gregg

The trigger in Greece was a student being shot by police. While the news won't report it, Muslims were protesting in Sweden. Tariffs on autos set it off in Russia. In the end, some feel it all boils down to the economy.

I saw on FNC this morning that some punks had been arrested in Missouri.

356 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:29:06pm

re: #341 Salamantis

Here is a famous Wiccan chant:

Eko, eko, Azarak
Eko, eko, Zomelak
Bazabi lacha bachabe
Lamac cahi achababe
Karrellyos
Lamac lamac Bachalyas
Cabahagy sabalyos
Baryolos
Lagoz atha cabyolas
Samahac atha famolas
Hurrahya!

And here is its history:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

You trying to put a spell on me ...I ain't reading that ...are you a wiccan?

/

357 solomonpanting  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:29:12pm

re: #345 LGoPs

I would like to set forth the theory that Rosie is Dark Matter and that she constitutes 90% of all the Dark Matter in the universe......


So when she bares her behind one can actually see the dark side of the moon?
(Not that I'd look, mind you.)

358 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:29:23pm

re: #354 LGoPs

the French'll fry 'em if they're not careful......

The Belgians are no help; they keep waffling...

359 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:29:35pm

re: #316 lifeofthemind

Add - at least from earlier reports, media censorship(self or imposed) being what it is in Eurabia today - Fwance und Germany to the list.

360 Taqyia2Me  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:30:11pm

re: #358 goddessoftheclassroom

The Belgians are no help; they keep waffling...

If the Swiss cut the cheese, they'll clear the room.

361 Shug  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:30:18pm

re: #354 LGoPs

the French'll fry 'em if they're not careful......

that would put you in a real pickle

362 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:30:19pm

re: #331 Dianna

I was discussing his "Frankenstein" comment which was in reference chimeras. Please pay attention and know what you're talking about before you accuse people of bigotry.

363 LGoPs  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:31:05pm

re: #358 goddessoftheclassroom

The Belgians are no help; they keep waffling...

Belgians give me phlegm-ish......

364 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:31:10pm

re: #356 JacksonTn

You trying to put a spell on me ...I ain't reading that ...are you a wiccan?

/

Yep. Have been for three decades.

But I ain't a spellin' ya...;~)

365 Pope Insouciance IV  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:31:12pm

Damn!
I'm the only guy that actually looks cool doing the hokey pokey, and they go and do this!
Life just isn't fair.

366 Alouette  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:31:16pm

re: #282 MJ

This will be next:

British Leftist to ban the singing of Hava Nagila.

According to Wiki :
"The commonly used text was probably composed by Abraham Zevi (Zvi) Idelsohn in 1918 to celebrate the British victory in Palestine during World War I as well as the Balfour Declaration."

It is therefore a hate crime to dance the Hora.

/

Translation of Hava Nagila:

Let's bring happiness
Let's bring happiness
Let's bring happiness
And let's rejoice!

Let's bring jollity
Let's bring jollity
Let's bring jollity
And let's rejoice!

And you will see brothers happy together
And you will see brothers happy together
Let's bring happiness
And let's rejoice!

/real hateful.

367 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:31:21pm

re: #330 Iron Fist

I am one who is the most placid of man, who is disgusted with the wars and rumors of wars that trap our beautiful planet in a warming cloak of denial, polution from industry, and hate.

Therefore, I am a man who can remain calm even in the gravest situations. I will be calm and collected while the world falls apart. And I'll butcher a man for meat if he harshes my mellow.

What if I mellow your harsh?

368 LGoPs  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:31:28pm

re: #361 Shug

that would put you in a real pickle

something I wouldn't relish.....

369 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:31:43pm

GET YOUR MINDS OUT OF THE GHETTO.

370 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:31:58pm
371 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:32:03pm

Uh, GUTTER.

372 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:32:14pm

Ah, fuck it.

373 Shug  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:32:18pm

re: #368 LGoPs

something I wouldn't relish.....

so many comments here. I doubt I can ketchup

374 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:32:56pm

re: #362 Killgore Trout

I was discussing his "Frankenstein" comment which was in reference chimeras. Please pay attention and know what you're talking about before you accuse people of bigotry.

I read both your comments. The second one is what provoked my comment.

375 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:33:00pm

re: #341 Salamantis

* "Mekka-lekka hi mekka hiney ho!"
* "Mekka-lekka hi mekka chahney ho!"
* "Mola-mekka chala mekka hola hayla hey!"

-Jambi

376 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:33:04pm

re: #364 Salamantis

Yep. Have been for three decades.

But I ain't a spellin' ya...;~)

Do you date witches? ...

377 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:33:07pm

re: #358 goddessoftheclassroom

The Belgians are no help; they keep waffling...

Who knows what powers Brussels will sprout?

378 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:33:35pm

re: #209 dammad

I'll try not to do that. No offence is ment. That's just the way I talk in informal communication. Something about the crowd I run with, because my epithets rarely get commented on. When they do, I generally get people who are being pretty rude to me and others, that I tell them to go away. It's just the same old same old.

Your request waas respectful. I will do what I can to honor your request.

379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:33:40pm

re: #369 MandyManners

GET YOUR MINDS OUT OF THE GHETTO.

As the snow flies....

380 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:33:45pm

re: #377 MandyManners

Who knows what powers Brussels will sprout?

The Swedes will probably turn-ip.

381 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:33:47pm
382 LGoPs  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:33:56pm

re: #357 solomonpanting

So when she bares her behind one can actually see the dark side of the moon?
(Not that I'd look, mind you.)

that's actually the black hole at the center of our galaxy.....I can't bear the thought that we're all gonna be sucked into it.............
*can't believe I'm actually posting that*

383 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:33:59pm

re: #364 Salamantis

Yep. Have been for three decades.

But I ain't a spellin' ya...;~)

That Wiki article really tip-toes around Gardner's, ah, how shall I put this?, lack of attachment to sourcing, doesn't it?

384 pink freud  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:34:21pm

re: #320 Walter L. Newton

Walter .... those Hebrew National Fat free franks are 2/5.00 at Walmart here (Louisiana). Wow.

I love 'em.

385 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:34:44pm
386 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:34:44pm

re: #335 Palandine

That raises another interesting point; Even those who oppose embryonic stem cell research, chimeras, animal testing, evolution and even the Copernican model of the solar system still benefit them. It's almost unavoidable.

387 LGoPs  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:34:47pm

re: #373 Shug

so many comments here. I doubt I can ketchup

Well try to curry up.......

388 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:35:02pm

re: #376 JacksonTn

Do you date witches? ...

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I have, but the last chick I lived with was a Buddhist.

389 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:35:18pm

re: #384 pink freud

Walter .... those Hebrew National Fat free franks are 2/5.00 at Walmart here (Louisiana). Wow.

I love 'em.

Hey I had some boudin last week ...yum yum ...

390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:35:32pm

re: #387 LGoPs

Well try to curry up.......

Oh yeah? Do something with Mustard.

391 dammad  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:35:36pm

re: #378 Iron Fist

Thanks, buddy.

392 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:36:08pm

re: #380 goddessoftheclassroom

The Swedes will probably turn-ip.

I bow before your power.

393 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:36:09pm
394 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:36:17pm

re: #389 JacksonTn

Hey I had some boudin last week ...yum yum ...

What is "boudin?"

395 solomonpanting  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:36:23pm

re: #382 LGoPs

*can't believe I'm actually posting that*

Moi non plus.

396 gregg  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:36:25pm

I think Venezuela, Iran, and Russia have all built economies/societies dependent on high oil prices. Karl Rove, that magnificent bastard, pulled off a credit crisis tsunami that drove the price of oil so low that our enemies in these countries will be overthrown by their own people.

397 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:36:36pm

re: #383 Dianna

That Wiki article really tip-toes around Gardner's, ah, how shall I put this?, lack of attachment to sourcing, doesn't it?

Yep; he stole some shit, and made other shit up. Then Doreen Valiente rendered it readable, while making up and stealing some shit of her own.

398 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:36:42pm

re: #393 taxfreekiller

faster

I'm getting worried.

399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:37:03pm

re: #378 Iron Fist

Kind of punched me in the mouth too. Thanks.

400 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:37:16pm

re: #397 Salamantis

Yep; he stole some shit, and made other shit up. Then Doreen Valiente rendered it readable, while making up and stealing some shit of her own.

Oh, good, you know this stuff!

401 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:37:16pm

re: #394 Walter L. Newton

What is "boudin?"

Good stuff ...cajun sausage ...actually a rice mixture stuffed in casing ...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

402 docremulac  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:37:17pm

So when I told my third grade teacher making us do the Hokey Pokey was a crime against humanity I was ahead of my time.

403 LGoPs  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:37:28pm

re: #390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh yeah? Do something with Mustard.

I can't mustard the energy.........

404 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:37:33pm
405 pink freud  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:37:35pm

re: #389 JacksonTn

Hey I had some boudin last week ...yum yum ...

Chicken, fresh green onion pork sausage and tasso gumbo for supper tonight. Yummm yum!

/Don't get me started on good cookin'!
/Especially you! We could be here all night! :-)

/where's reine?

406 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:37:37pm

re: #374 Dianna

You replied to my #311 which was discussing the Frankenstein comment.

407 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:38:05pm

re: #354 LGoPs

the French'll fry 'em if they're not careful......

Try this on for size: "Boss maybe we better stop, now the French are against us."

408 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:38:10pm

re: #400 Dianna

Oh, good, you know this stuff!

Didn't you read my essay on this stuff? I emailed it to you...

409 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:38:18pm

re: #388 Salamantis

I have, but the last chick I lived with was a Buddhist.

And, you have the freakin' temerity to bitch about sexism by some Christians.

*harumph*

410 Shug  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:38:20pm

re: #389 JacksonTn

Hey I had some boudin last week ...yum yum ...

We ordered 10 pounds of Whole Crawfish, Crawfish Boudin, Crawfish pie, and Andouille Sausage last week from La Crawfish company.
The boudin was AWESOME!

411 Palandine  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:38:22pm

re: #386 Killgore Trout

I would argue philosophically about whether one can benefit from things that I hold to be objectively evil--human cloning and embryonic stem cell research. I have no doubt that cord blood stem cell research and adult stem cell research have yielded and will yield great benefits.

Your mileage may vary.

412 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:38:24pm

re: #367 MandyManners


Now you're going to make me blush...

:-þ

413 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:38:35pm

re: #393 taxfreekiller

faster

harder

414 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:38:55pm

re: #394 Walter L. Newton

What is "boudin?"

Nummy stuff.

415 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:38:55pm

re: #399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Kind of punched me in the mouth too. Thanks.

Same here, and I'm an atheist, but it was over the top. I don't even use any popular emphatic G-d phrases in any of my comments.

416 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:38:56pm

re: #403 LGoPs

Very nice. Was seriously expecting the scatological.

417 LGoPs  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:39:02pm

re: #402 docremulac

So when I told my third grade teacher making us do the Hokey Pokey was a crime against humanity I was ahead of my time.

Speciesist.......
/

418 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:39:30pm

re: #405 pink freud

Chicken, fresh green onion pork sausage and tasso gumbo for supper tonight. Yummm yum!

/Don't get me started on good cookin'!
/Especially you! We could be here all night! :-)

/where's reine?

Hey pink freud ...a girl I know is opening a real New Orleans snoball stand here in Nashville ...my favorite ...

Medium ...Hershey's chocolate topping with condensed milk ...everyday almost after school ...

419 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:39:43pm

re: #386 Killgore Trout

That raises another interesting point; Even those who oppose embryonic stem cell research, chimeras, animal testing, evolution and even the Copernican model of the solar system still benefit them. It's almost unavoidable.

Evolution and the Copernican model are theories of natural phenomenal and neither benefit nor harm anyone (except in the fighting over them). Embryonic stem cell research, including the intentional creation of human/animal clones, does affect the embryonic human being. Yes, others may benefit, but a life has been sacrificed.

420 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:40:24pm

re: #409 MandyManners

And, you have the freakin' temerity to bitch about sexism by some Christians.

*harumph*

Chick bookends Dude
like
Guy bookends Gal.

421 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:40:34pm

re: #396 gregg

I think Venezuela, Iran, and Russia have all built economies/societies dependent on high oil prices. Karl Rove, that magnificent bastard, pulled off a credit crisis tsunami that drove the price of oil so low that our enemies in these countries will be overthrown by their own people.

Kick it!

422 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:40:50pm

re: #410 Shug

We ordered 10 pounds of Whole Crawfish, Crawfish Boudin, Crawfish pie, and Andouille Sausage last week from La Crawfish company.
The boudin was AWESOME!

I make a mean Crawfish Pie ...but my favorite cajun dish is ...

Crawfish Bisque ...takes a long time to make but so gooooood .....

423 pink freud  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:40:51pm

re: #418 JacksonTn

Hey pink freud ...a girl I know is opening a real New Orleans snoball stand here in Nashville ...my favorite ...

Medium ...Hershey's chocolate topping with condensed milk ...everyday almost after school ...

Yum Yum!

/Walter, close your eyes!

424 LGoPs  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:40:56pm

re: #407 lifeofthemind

Try this on for size: "Boss maybe we better stop, now the French are against us."

sorry, I'm off track............don't follow
:)

425 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:41:39pm

re: #410 Shug

We ordered 10 pounds of Whole Crawfish, Crawfish Boudin, Crawfish pie, and Andouille Sausage last week from La Crawfish company.
The boudin was AWESOME!

Oh, yeah, where do you live ....cuz I am starting the car now ...

/I wish

426 Cutty Sark  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:41:48pm

When do the public floggings for these hokey pokey -ers begin ?

427 itellu3times  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:42:07pm

re: #396 gregg

I think Venezuela, Iran, and Russia have all built economies/societies dependent on high oil prices. Karl Rove, that magnificent bastard, pulled off a credit crisis tsunami that drove the price of oil so low that our enemies in these countries will be overthrown by their own people.

Not to mention the Magic Kingdom itself, Saudi Arabia. They were maybe eighteen months from current account bankruptcy, circa 2002, with oil at $30/barrel. Put on your aluminum foil hat and take that for a ride.

So, now they've pocketed maybe half a trillion dollars excess cash over the past five years, as the barrel price falls back below $40. They have expenses, no assets other than oil, and a skyrocketing population. IF oil were to stay below $40, I suspect we'd have to start the countdown clock on the royal family there and all their wasabi wahabi madness, maybe three or four years before they've spent and stolen and embezzeled their capital. Could we be so lucky?

428 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:42:38pm

Good night, dear Lizards. Stay warm and cozy,

Unless you're in the southern hemisphere--then stay cool and cozy.

429 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:42:39pm
430 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:43:07pm

re: #414 MandyManners

Nummy stuff.

My favorite is Andouille, but only in France. US packaged stuff tastes like shit.

431 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:43:58pm

re: #377 MandyManners

Who knows what powers Brussels will sprout?

The Hollanders only have Dutch Courage.

432 gregg  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:44:09pm

re: #421 MandyManners

Kick it!

That's a bit like getting Rick Rolled.

433 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:44:13pm

re: #430 Walter L. Newton

My favorite is Andouille, but only in France. US packaged stuff tastes like shit.

Walter ...if you ever want IMHO the best Cajun cookbook ever ...it is ..

River Roads Cookbook ...and River Roads Cookbook II ...

434 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:44:55pm
435 Killian Bundy  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:45:15pm

Could be worse.

/could be square dancing

436 Palandine  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:45:17pm

re: #428 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm recovering from pneumonia, which I have no idea how I got, except I suspect it was probably on a flight, so I spent all day inside.

I just looked at the Weather Channel, and it says it's 7 degrees here in St. Louis. I know this only by faith--I haven't been outside today, and am sitting in a 70-degree apartment with a 100-degree fever.

I love me some Western civilization.

437 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:46:01pm

re: #411 Palandine

I would argue philosophically about whether one can benefit from things that I hold to be objectively evil....


But you did with the vaccine. That's the whole paradox here. You can oppose cloning and animal testing all you want but if you take medicine there's a good chance it was developed with and tested on cloned animals. You benefited from a vaccine made from embryos. There's almost no way to avoid this kind of thing in today's society.
This raises another interesting point. If we outlaw these things in our own society then do we import the medicines, vaccines, and drugs from other societies? We then become like the Muslim world: paralyzed by our "morality" but defendant on those who embrace technology.
These are all very interesting questions to me.

438 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:46:09pm

re: #433 JacksonTn

Walter ...if you ever want IMHO the best Cajun cookbook ever ...it is ..

River Roads Cookbook ...and River Roads Cookbook II ...

I grew up on some Cajun food, mother was from Naw Awlans, her family in LA. from the 1600's.

439 dammad  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:46:20pm

Only ate crawfish once - at the New Orleans jazz fest; I think you have to be "in the element" to really enjoy - btw this is probably a cliche, but the best meal I ever had was at Commander's Palace in New Orleans - no crawfish that night but everything was exquisite; and the service could not have been better.

440 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:46:38pm

re: #419 goddessoftheclassroom

That's a valid point of view.

441 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:46:46pm

I live in the Florida panhandle. It was 66 today, and it's gonna hit 28 tonight.

442 Geepers  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:46:51pm

itellu3times (#427),

And now they're cutting production.

They better hope that the resulting price increase majorly outstrips the resultant decrease of sales volume.

443 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:47:03pm

re: #433 JacksonTn

Walter ...if you ever want IMHO the best Cajun cookbook ever ...it is ..

River Roads Cookbook ...and River Roads Cookbook II ...

linky? please?
I love anything made with crawdads!
and shrimp ...

444 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:47:22pm

re: #421 MandyManners

Kick it!

6 months earlier might have effected the election

445 MJ  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:48:19pm

re: #351 MandyManners

What was that version about? Weird stuff.

446 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:48:29pm

re: #443 jwb7605

linky? please?
I love anything made with crawdads!
and shrimp ...

You will not regret getting this cookbook...

[Link: www.juniorleaguebr.org...]

447 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:49:17pm

re: #443 jwb7605

linky? please?
I love anything made with crawdads!
and shrimp ...

No, sorry, even though my mother is from Naw Awlans, I don't go for anything with fish or sea insects in it. There's a lot of good Cajun cooking that don't involve fish.

448 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:49:28pm

re: #406 Killgore Trout

You replied to my #311 which was discussing the Frankenstein comment.

If so, it's because I had a mouse accident. My mouse has a button that takes me back a page; then I have to (usually hastily) click back.

I was responding to your "in spite of the Vatican" remark. Which remains unnecessary.

449 Palandine  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:50:10pm

re: #437 Killgore Trout

Fair enough, but why don't we start with unobjectionable things that work (cord blood stem cells, adult stem cells) and exhaust them before we move on to ethicaly questionabe technologies? Have we really exhausted all the possibilities of stem cell research that doesn't involve creating and destroying human life?

I may never have gotten the chicken pox, or it could have killed me, since I never had it as a child. I've made peace with it, but it still makes me sad.
And again the Church is fine with it because the cells were obtained so long ago, which I find a little troubling in itself...

These are difficult questions, with difficult answers.

450 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:50:29pm

re: #408 Salamantis

Didn't you read my essay on this stuff? I emailed it to you...

I did; I was being a bit silly.

I took my tone from the Wikipedia article.

451 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:50:49pm

re: #419 goddessoftheclassroom


Evolution and the Copernican model are theories of natural phenomenal and neither benefit nor harm anyone (except in the fighting over them).


I will take issue with this statement. Many medical advances come from the study of evolution, biology, genetics, etc. Remember the Flat Earth Imam we had a thread about. He was interviewed on a TV network employing satellites which would be impossible without the Copernican model.

452 dammad  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:51:03pm

re: #449 Palandine

agree.

453 yochanan  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:51:15pm

saw a funny obama button
it was a pro obama button put out by a coffee house called the unicorn cafe in evanston

had a drawing of a unicorn and print saying unicorns for obama.

saw it and was ROFLMAO

454 pink freud  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:51:36pm

re: #446 JacksonTn

You will not regret getting this cookbook...

[Link: www.juniorleaguebr.org...]

This one too, Jackson, its c'est magnifique!

[Link: www.juniorleagueoflafayette.com...]

455 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:51:45pm

re: #449 Palandine

These are difficult questions, with difficult answers.


Agreed.

456 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:51:59pm
457 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:52:16pm

re: #450 Dianna

I did; I was being a bit silly.

I took my tone from the Wikipedia article.

Oh; okay!

And what did you think of it, if you don't mind me asking?

(my article, not wikipedia's)

458 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:53:10pm

re: #446 JacksonTn

You will not regret getting this cookbook...

[Link: www.juniorleaguebr.org...]

Spinach Madeleine

... my wife will approve. I'm a cajun dish fan, my wife thinks spinach is the perfect food. And I grow my own hot peppers.

Thanks!

459 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:53:15pm

re: #457 Salamantis

Oh; okay!

And what did you think of it, if you don't mind me asking?

(my article, not wikipedia's)

I thought it quite good, if a bit over-serious.

460 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:53:53pm

re: #448 Dianna

I was responding to your "in spite of the Vatican" remark. Which remains unnecessary.


It was very necessary and was central to my point. I'm a humanist and I care about the human condition. The Vatican seems willing to sacrifice the human condition to save souls (which I don't believe in).

461 JacksonTn  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:54:00pm

re: #454 pink freud

This one too, Jackson, its c'est magnifique!

[Link: www.juniorleagueoflafayette.com...]

Pink ...I had that Talk About Good one ... my sister stole it ...I am gonna have to get it back ...thanks for reminding me ...

462 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:54:50pm

re: #459 Dianna

I thought it quite good, if a bit over-serious.

Well, I wrote it for a graduate seminar in cultural anthro
/it got me an A

463 pink freud  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:55:00pm

re: #461 JacksonTn

Pink ...I had that Talk About Good one ... my sister stole it ...I am gonna have to get it back ...thanks for reminding me ...

They are very stealable. I am on my third one of one of the editions. :-)

464 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:56:20pm

re: #460 Killgore Trout

It was very necessary and was central to my point. I'm a humanist and I care about the human condition. The Vatican seems willing to sacrifice the human condition to save souls (which I don't believe in).

I think the Vatican would dispute that, and have serious points to raise.

That you don't believe in the soul is neither here nor there; the issue is life and individuals first, taken from the Catholic point of view.

465 yochanan  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:56:37pm
466 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:56:43pm

re: #462 Salamantis

Well, I wrote it for a graduate seminar in cultural anthro
/it got me an A

Well, then it served its purpose well.

467 Samson  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:56:48pm

That's what it's all about:

The New York Times
April 11, 1996
The Hokey Pokey Man Is Dead at 83

AP
Larry LaPrise, a singer who wrote the novelty song-and-dance number "The Hokey Pokey" for the apres-ski crowd at an Idaho resort, unwittingly creating a classic for nursery schools and roller-skating rinks, died last Thursday at a Boise hospital.

A daughter, Linda Ruby, said her father, who was 83, had been ill since last fall.

Mr. LaPrise was leading the Ram Trio -- its other members were Charles Peter Macak and Tafit Baker -- at the Ram Bar in Sun Valley when he came up with the song. It was an instant hit.

" 'The Hokey Pokey' is like a square dance, really," Mr. LaPrise told The Times-News in Twin Falls, Idaho, in 1992. "You turn around. You shake it all about. Everyone is in a circle, and it gets them all involved."

The Ram Trio recorded the song in 1949. Four years later, the bandleader Ray Anthony bought the rights and recorded it on the B-side of another novelty record, "The Bunny Hop."

Mrs. Ruby said her father wrote several other songs besides "The Hokey Pokey", none of them quite as famous, including the "Sitz Mark Samba," named after the hole left in the snow by a skier who has fallen down.

The success of "The Hokey Pokey" among children was a source of amusement, but not steady income, to Mr. LaPrise until Roy Acuff's publishing company bought the rights in the 1960's, she said.

In addition to his daughter Linda, Mr. LaPrise is survived by his wife, Donna; two sons, Paul and David, and three other daughters, Donna Chandler, Laurel Day and Shelly.

468 Hobbes  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:57:16pm

re: #436 Palandine

Hope you're feeling better for Christmas!

469 Dianna  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 6:57:44pm

Dinner time - homemade french onion soup and open-face prime rib sandwiches.

Yum!

470 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:00:19pm

re: #466 Dianna

Well, then it served its purpose well.

Yeah, but then it took on a life of its own. On a lark, I submitted it to Witchvox.com, and they posted it as a Power Essay. From there, it got tapped by the International Journal of Diversity and Synergy, and was included in the Internet Book of Shadows. And to date, I've given more than 50 covens emailed permission to use it as a teaching tool (I have no idea how many are using it without asking).

Weird, huh?

471 Joan Not of Arc  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:00:54pm

I've always felt the Hokey-Pokey should be an arrestable offense.
Why does anyone care about offending Catholics? It has always been open-season on us. If someone must be arrested, it should be because the Hokey-Pokey is awful.

472 Palandine  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:01:03pm

re: #468 Hobbes

I just thought it was a cold until I lost my voice on Wednesday. Went to the doctor, who said it was a bacterial pneumonia--or whooping cough, but I had a booster for that years ago. On day 4 of a 6-day round of antibiotics.

Thank God for modern medicine. I am feeling better today, and know that I will be well for Christmas. Thanks!

473 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:02:04pm

OT -FYI

I remember last Sunday someone asked me what station that I was listening to for the Bill Cunningham show. Well, it's coming on in a few minutes, and I listen to it on KOA here in the Denver area.

You can stream it from KOA at...

[Link: www.850koa.com...]

I'm not a fan of his, but I like talk radio too much to turn him off.

474 MadJadBad  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:02:19pm

"A spokesman for the leader of the church in Scotland said the song had disturbing origins."

All nursery rhymes and such have disturbing origins.
Ashes, ashes. We all fall down.

475 Hobbes  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:02:26pm

re: #472 Palandine

Great!

476 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:02:43pm

re: #460 Killgore Trout

It was very necessary and was central to my point. I'm a humanist and I care about the human condition. The Vatican seems willing to sacrifice the human condition to save souls (which I don't believe in).

The Vatican believes first in the preservation of human dignity and considers the human condition as a result of the recognition of that dignity.

What I find objectionable in this link is the British press' blatant end-around attribution of this "banning" to the Catholic Cardinal.

Digression into other points of Catholic doctrine aside...this article is disingenuous and bordering on a smear of the Cardinal.

477 Canadastani  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:02:53pm

re: #4 Silhouette

As a Virginia Tech alumnus, I will continue to do the Hokie Pokey as an act of defiance. Just don't ban "Enter Sandman" when the team runs on the field.

478 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:05:29pm

re: #471 Joan Not of Arc

I've always felt the Hokey-Pokey should be an arrestable offense. Why does anyone care about offending Catholics? It has always been open-season on us. If someone must be arrested, it should be because the Hokey-Pokey is awful.

Awful. The Hokey Pokey is part of a long line of ritual communal dances, and is part of the holy trinity of group dances which also include the Alley Cat and the Bunny Hop.

479 Hobbes  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:07:27pm

re: #473 Walter L. Newton

OT -FYI

I remember last Sunday someone asked me what station that I was listening to for the Bill Cunningham show. Well, it's coming on in a few minutes, and I listen to it on KOA here in the Denver area.

You can stream it from KOA at...

[Link: www.850koa.com...]

I'm not a fan of his, but I like talk radio too much to turn him off.

He's also on WLS in Chicago.

480 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:08:28pm

Killgore? why down-ding?

re: #476 hermit

481 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:08:31pm

re: #284 ploome hineni

Mandy is a sizs 6 petite

I claim 36DD.......so I win

/tatas trump

bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhaha

I claim size 6 tall, AND 36DD.
So I really win.

482 Maximu§  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:08:52pm

Now politicians have urged police to arrest anyone using the song to “taunt” Catholics

This Catholic does'nt need a politicians help if I or my family is ever taunted....I can take care of myself Thank You, but the taunters better have Blue Cross.

483 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:15:19pm

re: #437 Killgore Trout

There are always going to be ethical limits to research. Just being able to do something and actually doing it are two separate things. You may be able to do something, but ethically that something is forbidden.

This may cause black clinics to step up and provide it. If there's a market, someone will smuggle it. If it is truly needed there are ways to obtain things that are against the law. There always will be.

And if some of these radical methods of curing, say, cancer work, then I think you'll see laws and restricting such sciences eased.

There will always be ethical restrictions on science. They can clone humans (or are getting close to be able to clone humans), and it is as certain as the Sun rising in the East that human cloning will be possible. There's a big red line to cross. If they cross it, what do we do with the knowledge gained?

This is similar to the questions asked of the Nazi Doctors after the fall of the Third Reich. What do with the data that these monsters created? Do we use it, hoping that by getting something out of their work we are able to give some meaning to the lives that were lost.

Or do we walk away from their madness and try to find other, less ethically challenged science. Where there is a one way to accomplish something, there is a pretty good shot at there becoming a second way of accomplishing it.

Even this can be fraught with peril.

484 experiencedtraveller  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:17:25pm
The Two-Minute Hokey

Darn. I thought it was a hockey thread.

485 MadJadBad  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:17:56pm

re: #473 Walter L. Newton

I love to listen to Willy. I live in Cincy so I can listen every day. Podcasts are at 700wlw.com. He has the best local (and often national) news coverage. Whenever there is a big news story, he calls the principles involved and interviews them in depth, on air. He often calls the Mayor, Sheriff, DA, congressmen and senators and they almost always take his call on air. Just remember that half of what he says is tongue in cheek or devil's advocate. Another great host at wlw is Mike McConnell.

486 Gearhead  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:19:25pm

An auto da fe,
What's an auto da fe?
It's what you oughtn't to do,
But you do anyway.

- History of the World Part I

/sorry, couldn't resist

487 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:20:02pm

re: #480 hermit

Because I don't see any evidence that this is a conspiracy from the British press to malign the Catholic church. Yes, I read your posts asserting this is a smear job but your evidence is weak. You might be right but there's no evidence to prove it. We'll have to watch this story and see how it develops.

488 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:20:23pm

re: #483 Iron Fist

Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. Dr. Ian Malcolm, Jurassic Park

I believe Crichton hit that one square on.

489 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:25:24pm

re: #487 Killgore Trout

We'll have to watch this story and see how it develops.

I can agree with that, and that my evidence is really gut-based. I trust the respect I have seen you show to all viewpoints regardless of your agreement with specifics. I am as willing as you to throw an idiot to the wolves -- Catholic or not, I just can't see the straight line here. Thanks for replying.

490 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:26:47pm

re: #483 Iron Fist

Good post. There's a lot of grey area here. Where to draw the line? On the topic of chimeras and genetic modification though I'm certain that within the next few generations they are going to be common among humans. They are even going to be common among Catholics in the future. Haw are the genetically modified/chimera Catholics going to feel about their church opposing their improved health and lifespan? My point is that historically the Vatican is going to be on the losing side of history. They've survived it before with Galileo (etc) but they are still going to be on the losing side. They will have to adapt and apologize eventually for opposing the improvement of the human condition.

491 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:27:40pm

re: #488 hermit

Yeah, that really sums up my ethical beliefs regarding esoteric science. Even if it works flawlessly, there could still be unintended consequences for the patient, or even the whole world, that would be worse than having left well enough alone.

In such an ethical environment, I believe that I would be avoiding the really arcane aspects of science. That is to say, I wouldn't wirk on embryonic stem cells, but on adult stem cells if my calling was to work on stem-cell research.

492 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:29:32pm

re: #489 hermit

Thanks for replying.


You're welcome. I spent a lot of time this morning fighting off accusations of bigotry and strawmen arguments so I'm starting to ding more than reply to them. If your arguments/questions are sincere I'm more than happy to debate but I have a short fuse these days.

493 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:29:41pm

re: #485 MadJadBad

I love to listen to Willy. I live in Cincy so I can listen every day. Podcasts are at 700wlw.com. He has the best local (and often national) news coverage. Whenever there is a big news story, he calls the principles involved and interviews them in depth, on air. He often calls the Mayor, Sheriff, DA, congressmen and senators and they almost always take his call on air. Just remember that half of what he says is tongue in cheek or devil's advocate. Another great host at wlw is Mike McConnell.

I can't stand him. He has a snide edge that I can't stand, and he's got the smart ass Rush attitude without the cleverness.

But, I like talk radio, and he's the only game in town on a Sun. night.

494 UberInfidel67  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:33:41pm

Just what the hell is a crawfish? Is it what we call a crayfish....a little tiny lobster?

495 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:37:03pm

re: #491 Iron Fist

When you get that the purpose of religion, any religion, is supposed to be to provide some moral boundaries, it is understandable that mostly those boundaries become lines in sand. So long as there are lines to be erased, then the test is met.

I deeply respect the "human dignity" works of John Paul II. In more areas than scientific research (I teach), awareness of personal dignity can be transforming in or out of a Christian idiom.

Thank G_d for Lizardia, where we can all come together and sharpen one another!

496 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:37:12pm

re: #494 UberInfidel67

Just what the hell is a crawfish? Is it what we call a crayfish....a little tiny lobster?

A little tiny sea cockrouch.

497 jaunte  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:37:26pm

re: #494 UberInfidel67

Crawfish:
[Link: whatscookingamerica.net...]

498 MadJadBad  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:37:57pm

re: #493 Walter L. Newton

Yeah, you either love him or hate him.
Just go to the web page for your favorite hosts and listen to their podcasts. Podcasts are great because you can fast forward or replay, plus no commercials.

499 UberInfidel67  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:41:30pm

They ARE little lobsters! Only difference...up around these here parts they are brownish instead of red. Must be hard to eat one of 'em. Do they TASTE like lobster?

500 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:42:47pm

re: #492 Killgore Trout

Sorry to hear that! I am a very small Lizard, after all [channeling Piglet], and was a little terrified at finding you on the other end of the sock-tug! I've read and agreed with you often, and sometimes especially against idiots who claim Christianity. You and Salamantis have fine gifts for debating the idiots -- may I never be one!

501 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:43:13pm
502 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:43:42pm

re: #499 UberInfidel67

They ARE little lobsters! Only difference...up around these here parts they are brownish instead of red. Must be hard to eat one of 'em. Do they TASTE like lobster?

Chicken. (yea right) They taste like cod liver oil.

503 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:44:37pm

They're also called crawdads or mudbugs here in the Deep South.

504 taejohndo  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:45:11pm

This just in:

The childhood rhyme "One Potato two Potato three potato four..." was found to have a hate filled origin when I just made up this fact that it was invented to Mock the early Irish immigrants to America, and their propensity to have hundreds of children. It was first sung by a police representative who recognized the threat to their ranks by the horde of future Irish recruits. Attempts to stem the high birth rate by mandating all Irish males had to join the clergy failed when the majority of the Irish men got drunk on beer and forgot their vows of chastity at their pre-graduation parties at the Seminaries.

505 jaunte  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:45:34pm

re: #499 UberInfidel67

Most crawfish I've had have had a sort of muddy shrimp taste that gets masked by whatever hot sauce you use on them.

506 UberInfidel67  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:45:59pm

Greasy tasting little bastages. lol lol ICK I'll stick to real lobsters.

507 UberInfidel67  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:46:53pm

Kinda like a wanna-be lobster

508 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:48:13pm

re: #507 UberInfidel67

Kinda like a wanna-be lobster

Kinda like a wanna-be upset stomach. Recch.

509 Salamantis  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:50:08pm

I have a question to throw open to the floor:

It has been demonstrated that a significant percentage of stressed-out pregnant women bathe their embryos with a different chemical bath of hormones duriong a critical period in gestation. These cause a significant percentage of their fetuses to manifest differential cortical and amygdala development. And when these fetuses are born, they're gay.

In the very near future, it will be possible to detect either the different hormonal bath, or the different cortical and/or amydalal configurations in utero. Then the question arrives as to the morality of selectively aborting the gay.

510 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:51:51pm

re: #500 hermit

It's ok, vigorous debate is all part of the fun. I don't hold a grudge beyond the thread in question (with rare exceptions). It's all good.

511 experiencedtraveller  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:54:36pm

re: #509 Salamantis

Abortion is immoral.

512 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 7:54:50pm

re: #509 Salamantis

Interesting question above my pay grade. If there is a genetic/hormonal cause of homosexuality (I suspect it's genetic) then I'm sure that's a possibility.

513 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:00:48pm

re: #509 Salamantis

Very good post. Very good point, as well. While they still love them, care for them, etc, almost all parents would prefer that they children were heterosexual (this would probably be less true for gay parents).

Let's, for the sake of argument, agree that some people want their child to be gay. Would it be ethical to artificially provide the hormonal bath, et al in an effort to produce a homosexual offspring?

514 TaeJohnDo  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:00:57pm

re: #509 Salamantis

I have a question to throw open to the floor:

It has been demonstrated that a significant percentage of stressed-out pregnant women bathe their embryos with a different chemical bath of hormones duriong a critical period in gestation. These cause a significant percentage of their fetuses to manifest differential cortical and amygdala development. And when these fetuses are born, they're gay.

In the very near future, it will be possible to detect either the different hormonal bath, or the different cortical and/or amydalal configurations in utero. Then the question arrives as to the morality of selectively aborting the gay.

It is getting late so I can't stick around to debate. All I can say is, any society that actively advocates the abortion of their young has serious moral problems, and is most likely in decline, or will be soon.

Why stop with the gay fetuses? There are plenty of other "flaws" to abort -- too short, too stout, female, male, blond ... etc. And why stop with abortion? Why not kill those who become a burden? Or who have different political points of view? Or who think global warming isn't man made.

515 path  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:02:39pm

re: #507 UberInfidel67

Kinda like a wanna-be lobster

Exactly! Why not stick to the real thing - it doesn't even need the hot sauce.

516 Catttt  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:03:39pm

I'll give up the hokey pokey - and the bunny hop - when they are pried from my cold, dead feat. And the May pole.

517 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:15:34pm

re: #513 Iron Fist

Okay, you guys are making me want to watch GATTACA again. Dammit! I just scared myself spitless yesterday by watching Running Man again! I forgot just how spot-on that was...

Don't MAKE me watch Equilibrium! Christian Bale creeps me out.

518 path  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:15:35pm

"We’ve always known it as an expression of profound despair, in which all of existence, indeed, all of life itself, is reduced to a series of jerky ritualistic moves in a macabre nihilistic parody of “dance” ... culminating in a statement of ultimate bleak emptiness:"

Regarding the above, is this a part of the reason that we only hear this song or do this dance at weddings?

519 rawmuse  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:15:58pm

re: #509 Salamantis

I am not for aborting anything, except in the most dire circumstances. I especially abhor selective abortion for social engineering reasons as is done in China.

520 Promethea  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:16:14pm

re: #32 ArmyWife

This is what I thought, too. Actually, the first time Mr. ArmyWife thought he might be getting somewhere with me, he asked me if I was interested in going to his apartment for some "hokey pokey". Oh the romance of our youth!

(I wish I was making this up, but really, it's fact)

I think he meant "hanky panky." :)

521 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:16:49pm

re: #516 Catttt

I'll give up the hokey pokey - and the bunny hop - when they are pried from my cold, dead feat. And the May pole.

How about the Alley Cat?

522 path  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:18:56pm

re: #521 hermit

Or the chicken dance?

523 Promethea  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:19:10pm

re: #224 taxfreekiller

Obama and his "uh's" offend we Apache, reminds us of Tonto and his
"hows".

Ugh !

524 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:19:21pm

re: #517 hermit

Don't MAKE me watch Equilibrium! Christian Bale creeps me out.

So does Emily Watson - ever see "Breaking the Waves"?

525 Optimizer  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:22:31pm

re: #1 Wyatt Earp

Next up: The Macarena is deemed offensive to Mexicans.

Back when it was first popular, I (by sheer chance) ran into a guy who was literally an immigrant from Mexico. I asked him what "Macarena" meant, and he said it meant "prostitute". Which kind of made sense, if you are familiar with the dance movements.

So there's certainly some fodder for the determined to get offended...

526 hermit  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:25:47pm

re: #525 Optimizer

determined to get offended...

Key Phrase!

527 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:26:32pm

re: #131 reine.de.tout

LOL!
That song is indeed, unfortunately, one that will stick in your brain. For way longer than it ought to.

I remember seeing Buckwheat Zydeco live in Calgary on several occasions. He puts on one hell of a show, I can tell you. And he is a very gracious gentleman to meet, too.

528 Optimizer  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:26:39pm

re: #201 Shug

I think we should do eenie meenie minie moe to determine whether or not the hokey pokey is offensive or not

This Lizard has the wisdom of Solomon, I tell ya'!

529 Promethea  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:26:42pm

re: #288 Silhouette

Wait until 1/20/09, and it'll be all good news, all the time.

Gas and housing are affordable! Low interest and low stock market prices inspiring many Americans previously excluded from the stock market to start investing.

Plus...they'll print more money so we'll all be richer! Yay!

530 Optimizer  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:30:36pm

re: #526 hermit

Key Phrase!

To this day, I still kind of chuckle to myself about it when I see it done at weddings. I'm sure that most of the participants have no clue that their movements were inspired by (or is it "in celebration of") the "oldest profession". Regardless, it looks like a lot of fun.

531 Promethea  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:30:48pm

re: #310 Palandine

Well, Britain banned guns, and when that didn't result in rainbows and unicorns (I think of Archie Bunker's line about gun crime "Would you prefer they were pushed out of windows?"), they're now trying to ban knives, down to kitchen knives.

This American will defend the Hokey Pokey down to my last fork and spoon. :)

What about umbrellas? And baseball bats? Hammers?

532 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:33:00pm

re: #166 ploome hineni

A researcher adjusts a plastic tank on the back of a cow, in attempt to capture its gases for global warming research, on the outskirts of Buenos Aires, July 4, 2008

He'll never get it off the ground.

Wouldn't it be great fun to shoot flaming arrows at those things?

533 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:35:29pm
534 spidly  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:39:25pm

it's not april 1st

535 nyc redneck  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:39:47pm

these pols are simple afraid of the real pressing issues facing their country.
radical islam is too scary for them. terrorism, bombings, sharia law, better to attack a children's song as the most important problem of the day.
fck these cowards.

536 spidly  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:40:53pm

re: #532 Alberta Oil Peon

He'll never get it off the ground.

Wouldn't it be great fun to shoot flaming arrows at those things?

something like this

537 favorednation  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:43:47pm

Now I know language is now completely superfluous! I always knew it deep down, even in linguistics class. ARGGGGGG!

538 favorednation  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:45:35pm

re: #532 Alberta Oil Peon

LOL emissions equipment now mandatory for cows! It just gets weirder and weirder!

539 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:54:00pm

re: #210 ploome hineni

b00b thread

Now, if you could just make them sort of levitate and bounce along like that bubble thing which always stalked Patrick McGoohan in the old TV series, The Prisoner, you'd have: (wait for it)

a "Big Rack" attack.

540 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:56:08pm

re: #513 Iron Fist


Let's, for the sake of argument, agree that some people want their child to be gay. Would it be ethical to artificially provide the hormonal bath, et al in an effort to produce a homosexual offspring?


Another interesting question. Is it any more or less moral on the other side of the proverbial fence?

541 path  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 8:56:37pm

Nite all. It's almost midnight here and time to turn back into a pumpkin.

542 Optimizer  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 9:08:27pm

re: #531 Promethea

What about umbrellas? And baseball bats? Hammers?

Or rocks? (Clearly religious fundamentalists are the real force behind this...)

543 lostlakehiker  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 9:13:00pm

It comes to this: you establish a net of laws that is so fine that no one can slip through the holes. Do what you will. Study the law day and night. You will still turn out to be a criminal somehow or other. The only defense is to have friends with connections.

544 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 9:34:40pm

re: #540 Killgore Trout

The honest answer is that I don't know. There are a lot of things in the firld of biochemistry, genetics and the like where ewe can see the potential for great good to come from it.

On the flip side, malevolent users can reletively easily turn common household bacteria and turn them into weapons almost too terrible to comntemplate

545 Catttt  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 9:43:07pm

re: #521 hermit

How about the Alley Cat?

That too. And the stray cat strut.

546 PaxAmericana  Sun, Dec 21, 2008 10:04:49pm

Heh, hope they don't know the second verse to "Remember, remember the fifth of November"

547 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 5:46:42am

re: #5 Mich-again

I'm Catholic and I can't recall ever going to a wedding that didn't feature the Hokey Pokey.. or the Chicken Dance, or Celebrate Good Times by Kool and the Gang, or Old Time Rock and Roll by Bob Seger.

I think its a law. The DJ has to play those four songs for the wedding to be official.

That's true, but these days a wedding includes "Livin' on a Prayer" to get the bridal party to scream & play air guitar.

548 Naso Tang  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 6:32:13am

re: #323 gregg

The trigger in Greece was a student being shot by police. While the news won't report it, Muslims were protesting in Sweden. Tariffs on autos set it off in Russia. In the end, some feel it all boils down to the economy.

What were the Muslims in Sweden protesting about? I thought 9 out of 10 of them were on welfare anyway.

549 so.cal.swede  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 8:05:05am

re: #548 Naso Tang

What were the Muslims in Sweden protesting about? I thought 9 out of 10 of them were on welfare anyway.

According to the MSM in sweden they were "football hooligans". Funny, because, it's not like it's football season.

550 SDben5  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 8:54:44am

Hokey Pokey is derived from "Hocus Pocus" which was a the English Puritans mocking the Catholic Latin words of invocation during the mass:
Hoc est enim corpus meum

In 1694, the Prelate for the church of England wrote:
"those common juggling words of hocus pocus are nothing else but a corruption of hoc est corpus, by way of ridiculous imitation of the priests of the Church of Rome in their trick of Transubstantiation."

Leave it to the Puritans who also invented genocide and concentration camps. real christian

551 Amer-I-Can  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 9:43:52am

Wow, learn something new every day... can't wait to take THIS to the next elementary school dance or birthday party.

552 cagney  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:22:24am

Surprising an article about West of Scotland and Northern Ireland Sectarian bigotry has made the pages of LGF

re: #154 Palandine

Oh, dear Lord.

As a Catholic, I'd like to encourage my Scottish brethren to concentrate more on bringing Britain back to its Judeo-Christian roots rather than go on risible crusades against a silly dance.

Next up for the Scottish Church--the horrific true meaning behind the Chicken Dance.

At the moment, the Scottish Catholic church is very socialist and the 'Catholic' vote keeps the Labour party in power. There has been recent grumblings in the Catholic hierarchy about Labour policies, hopefully the Catholic Church can switch from a 'block vote' mentality and give support to political parties on separate issues.

553 iowavette  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:06:07am

HahahahahaHA! Some of the best educated and most intelligent people I've met are Catholic clergy, and then you get this intellectually-impaired loon. The good news is it's a Brit this time.

554 iowavette  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:09:57am

Furthermore, #550, they also invented the handy "Puritan Work Ethic." The country has been graced by the thinking and actions of both Protestants and Catholics; bless 'em all. We'd be a lesser place had we not.

555 psyop  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 4:13:49pm

To think I was led in many rousing courses of this song while attending (protestant) church as a child.

It must have been a subtle protestant dig at catholics.

556 SDben5  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 4:37:23pm

As with many actions, intent does matter.

557 Grant Drive  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:23:21pm

Some Catholics use the song in a positive way, to show their pride and to taunt the bigots. Perhaps the most notable are the great goalkeeper Artur Boruc and his many fans among the supporters of Glasgow Celtic FC:


558 Seax  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:05:09pm

They are going to have a field day on
banning all the children's rhymes of old.
The phrase 'dick heads' comes to mind....
oh wait that could be a hate crime against
all....oh never mind!


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