Dave at Israellycool has uncovered a case of lizard larceny, a sleazy marketing site (and referrer spammer) that’s using our copyrighted Lizard Lounge graphic as their logo.
Here’s the spammer, and this is his first notice to remove our graphic.
450 comments
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:13:42am |
Here's a good use for lawyers. (Reference to the previous thread)
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:14:36am |
Trying to open the link. I think we crashed it.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:15:22am |
Fricking theif. He'd not only have to ask Charles for permission, but Cox and Forkum too. They created the logo, IIRC.
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Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:16:00am |
Uh, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:16:08am |
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DaddyG Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:16:52am |
...not to be confused with the spammin' salamander.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:16:59am |
Error establishing a database connection
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:17:09am |
re: #9 Silhouette
Uh, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?
There's imitation, and then there's just plain shoplifting.
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jcm Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:17:16am |
re: #4 Ford_Prefect
Trying to open the link. I think we crashed it.
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Revenge of the Lizards.
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:17:51am |
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Kragar Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:18:08am |
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:18:13am |
Let's all post there! Give him a headache.
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maddogg Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:18:15am |
Well, the sonofabitch gets no brownies for originality.
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Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:18:32am |
It isn't the Lizard's People's Front. He's a member of the People's Front of Lizards.
/
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wrenchwench Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:18:49am |
Pfff. He doesn't even put the lizard's seat on the same level as the bottom of the writing. Clearly he's no Fuad Ramses.
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kafir lover Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:18:57am |
re: #11 Honorary Yooper
sorry! still learning the ropes.
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Sharmuta Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:19:16am |
re: #16 Honorary Yooper
There's imitation, and then there's just plain shoplifting.
Other than the word "lounge" I'm not sure why he needed that logo- what does his site have to do with lizards?
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:19:26am |
re: #16 Honorary Yooper
There's imitation, and then there's just plain shoplifting.
he should lose a hand...
(not really)
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DaddyG Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:19:36am |
re: #28 kafir lover
sorry! still learning the ropes.
In that case the flogging will be gentle.
/or will it?
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Kragar Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:19:37am |
re: #26 Silhouette
It isn't the Lizard's People's Front. He's a member of the People's Front of Lizards.
/
I thought they were the Popular Front?
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:19:53am |
re: #29 Sharmuta
Other than the word "lounge" I'm not sure why he needed that logo- what does his site have to do with lizards?
Not a clue, and I can't get there anymore due to the lizardlanche.
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Long Nics are Looonnng Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:19:55am |
re: #28 kafir lover
sorry! still learning the ropes.
Obvious sarcasm is generally OK. But probably should get known before you assume.
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Sharmuta Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:20:49am |
re: #33 Honorary Yooper
I saw it earlier, but I clicked it again just to help the crash!
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Long Nics are Looonnng Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:20:59am |
re: #29 Sharmuta
Other than the word "lounge" I'm not sure why he needed that logo- what does his site have to do with lizards?
The model charges more than he could afford.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:21:11am |
re: #34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Obvious sarcasm is generally OK. But probably should get known before you assume.
Otherwise, you make a Democrat out of you and me.
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israellycool Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:21:17am |
Lizard larceny? Drats, I wish I had thought of that post title!
Go get em, Charles.
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rawmuse Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:21:32am |
OT man jumps in to Knut's pen!
Feed him to Knut! Feed him to Knut!
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:21:44am |
re: #28 kafir lover
sorry! still learning the ropes.
lay low...keep yer eyes open...dont assume anything
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Sharmuta Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:22:09am |
re: #40 kafir lover
Sarc tags are your friends- especially if you're a newbie.
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Yashmak Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:22:29am |
Yeah. That's pretty obvious alright. Obviously, he's not marketing subtlety.
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:22:59am |
re: #34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Obvious sarcasm is generally OK. But probably should get known before you assume.
I just realized the Lizard is drinking a sissy drink...I'll bet some beer company would pay to see the lizard holding a Sam Adams or Bud light...
Sell-out!
/ heh
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:23:27am |
re: #37 Honorary Yooper
Otherwise, you make a Democrat out of you and me.
You do that to me and I will, like a true southern gentleman, demand satisfaction... Whiskey shot's at 20 paces...
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x-wing Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:23:39am |
They counted on Charles' to be passive... They counted wrong.
/break out the ninja suits.
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:24:03am |
re: #47 HoosierHoops
I just realized the Lizard is drinking a sissy drink...I'll bet some beer company would pay to see the lizard holding a Sam Adams or Bud light...
Sell-out!
/ heh
BuzzBrew may be red
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yochanan Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:24:08am |
re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I thought they were the Popular Front?
what about the democratic popular front for the liberation of ...
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DaddyG Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:24:08am |
re: #49 MandyManners
[Link: www.lessnau.com...]
I tried refreshing @50 times. Wonder what the problem could be?
/
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Long Nics are Looonnng Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:24:21am |
re: #35 Sharmuta
Shar? Didja see it? [finger]
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Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:24:21am |
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Yashmak Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:24:22am |
re: #47 HoosierHoops
It's only natural that an Iguana would be drinking a tropical cocktail of some sort. . .although a Corona or shot of tequila would also have been appropriate.
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yma o hyd Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:25:16am |
re: #53 DaddyG
I tried refreshing @50 times. Wonder what the problem could be?
/
Crashed again!
Teeheehee ...
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:25:45am |
re: #34 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Obvious sarcasm is generally OK. But probably should get known before you assume.
Did you read my answer to your question on the last thread?
JZM is Jazzy Zen Meateater. Now you know.
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:25:55am |
re: #56 Yashmak
It's only natural that an Iguana would be drinking a tropical cocktail of some sort. . .although a Corona or shot of tequila would also have been appropriate.
What is certain is that he aint drinking no kool-aid... ;p
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:25:57am |
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NR Pax Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:25:59am |
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:26:20am |
re: #41 rawmuse
OT man jumps in to Knut's pen!
Feed him to Knut! Feed him to Knut!
It doesn't mention alcohol, but somehow, I think it's involved...
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:27:15am |
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:27:32am |
re: #66 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
It doesn't mention alcohol, but somehow, I think it's involved...
of course...Knute always has a cocktail before dinner
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eowyn2 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:27:32am |
fruit cups.
where's the fruit cups.
need sustanence.
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Sharmuta Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:27:34am |
re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You have something... right there.
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right_wing2 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:27:42am |
Long Island Ice Tea in the lizard's glass?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:28:01am |
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Long Nics are Looonnng Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:28:37am |
re: #41 rawmuse
OT man jumps in to Knut's pen!
Feed him to Knut! Feed him to Knut!
Don't think we should interfere with nature. Why didn't they let Knut Knosh?
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:28:50am |
re: #50 x-wing
They counted on Charles' to be passive... They counted wrong.
/break out the ninja suits.
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Dustyvet Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:29:02am |
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DaddyG Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:29:13am |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:29:14am |
re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don't think we should interfere with nature. Why didn't they let Knut Knosh?
Because Knut's Knot Kosher.
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:29:16am |
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jcm Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:29:31am |
An clues at to what Lessnau means? French? Not coming up with a translation or dictionary entry.
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:29:44am |
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:30:07am |
re: #63 Ford_Prefect
Maybe these guys would be interested.
From your link:
This brewing venture is dedicated to a little green lizard that was more intimately involved with the brewing process than I ever care to be and may have provided this beer with a very special lizard quality.
/ I'd think i'd be a little afraid of the special lizard brew
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:30:16am |
Give the Lizard a bottle of Basil and be done with it!
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:30:38am |
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Erik The Red Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:30:41am |
Damn you all crashed the site before I could play thanks/
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:30:55am |
re: #81 jcm
An clues at to what Lessnau means? French? Not coming up with a translation or dictionary entry.
Possible "crabbed" French, trying to sound like "Less Now"
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:30:56am |
BTW, Shar, found a copy of The Anatomy of Fascism on Saturday. Should be a very interesting read. I also got another book at the same time, a new book: New Deal or Raw Deal? by Burton Folsom, Jr. Got through the first few chapters already. Most interesting, and pulls no punches on FDR's New Deal. Oddly enough, FDR seems to have had the same understanding of economics as BHO.
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:31:04am |
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HighFlyingCrane Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:31:07am |
Amusing autobio from the creator of that site:
About the Author
...
I create web sites and web services that are evolutionary, and revolutionary because there is just too much warmed over crap on the Internet for my liking
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reine.de.tout Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:31:17am |
re: #81 jcm
An clues at to what Lessnau means? French? Not coming up with a translation or dictionary entry.
The guy's last name appears to be "Lessnau".
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:31:43am |
re: #87 Erik The Red
Damn you all crashed the site before I could play thanks/
Go swim another lap. Lie in the sun.
*whack*
Freezing my ass off here.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:32:02am |
re: #87 Erik The Red
Damn you all crashed the site before I could play thanks/
Or he got the message and shut down to make changes.
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Dianna Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:32:12am |
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right_wing2 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:32:25am |
re: #89 Honorary Yooper
BTW, Shar, found a copy of The Anatomy of Fascism on Saturday. Should be a very interesting read. I also got another book at the same time, a new book: New Deal or Raw Deal? by Burton Folsom, Jr. Got through the first few chapters already. Most interesting, and pulls no punches on FDR's New Deal. Oddly enough, FDR seems to have had the same understanding of economics as BHO.
Now THAT'S encouraging...
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x-wing Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:32:27am |
re: #75 MandyManners
ROTF. I just left a comment over at the fake lizard site,and it is awaiting moderation.
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:32:31am |
re: #83 Sharmuta
What thread over there are we all going to comment on?
I was thinking of going to the Contact page and saying hello.
But won't say much about the lizard picture..Don't want to ruin charle's fun
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jcm Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:32:37am |
re: #81 jcm
An clues at to what Lessnau means? French? Not coming up with a translation or dictionary entry.
Should have waited this seems to match up...
WebmasterWorld PubCon 2003-2008 Speaker Biographies
John Lessnau
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thedopefishlives Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:32:38am |
re: #94 MandyManners
Go swim another lap. Lie in the sun.
*whack*
Freezing my ass off here.
To: Mandy
Merry Christmas.
Love,
Algore.
/
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:32:40am |
Crushed by the Lizard King... I dedicate this song to Charles... The Lizard King himself...
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Sharmuta Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:32:42am |
I got this thread to open:
[Link: www.lessnau.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:32:44am |
re: #94 MandyManners
Go swim another lap. Lie in the sun.
*whack*
Freezing my ass off here.
Yes and already answered you.
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LGoPs Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:33:02am |
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Randall Gross Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:33:26am |
I don't know why you are linking, that's what he wants, never give creeps what they want if you can avoid it is what I says.
Definitely blatant theft of graphics.
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jcm Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:33:32am |
re: #100 x-wing
ROTF. I just left a comment over at the fake lizard site,and it is awaiting moderation.
He's gonna' look at his que or moderation and say WTF?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:33:41am |
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Gearhead Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:33:43am |
All I want for Christmas
Is a Take-Down Order,
A Take-Down Order...
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:34:12am |
re: #91 HighFlyingCrane
Amusing autobio from the creator of that site:
About the Author
...
I create web sites and web services that are evolutionary, and revolutionary because there is just too much warmed over crap on the Internet for my liking
Why the logo of a Lizard sipping a cocktail? That’s me making money as my websites do the work.
Not for long, sonny.
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Dianna Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:34:40am |
re: #107 Walter L. Newton
Yes and already answered you.
If you were answering me, I just saw, thanks!
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Long Nics are Looonnng Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:34:45am |
Oh Crap!
That's Detroit News columnist Rob Parker asking Marinelli, "On a light note, seriously, do you wish your daughter had married a better defensive coordinator?"
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jcm Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:34:57am |
*** Why the logo of a Lizard sipping a cocktail? That’s me making money as my websites do the work.
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x-wing Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:35:11am |
re: #83 Sharmuta
What thread over there are we all going to comment on?
I just jumped on the top one.
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:35:11am |
re: #91 HighFlyingCrane
Amusing autobio from the creator of that site:
About the Author
...
I create web sites and web services that are evolutionary, and revolutionary because there is just too much warmed over crap on the Internet for my liking
Why the logo of a Lizard sipping a cocktail? That’s me making money as my websites do the work.
Not for long, sonny.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:35:16am |
re: #103 jcm
Should have waited this seems to match up...
WebmasterWorld PubCon 2003-2008 Speaker Biographies
John Lessnau
That's him.
Matches what's on the other site.
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:36:13am |
re: #95 Sharmuta
Are we really going to comment over there? Because I was about to.
Isn't it moderated?
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yochanan Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:36:33am |
my anti virus soft wear went off when i linked to the site becareful lizards.
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Erik The Red Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:36:42am |
re: #94 MandyManners
Go swim another lap. Lie in the sun.
*whack*
Freezing my ass off here.
Sorry MM. Am out of the pool but still here dripping on the laptop. If it makes you feel better Christmas is only going to be in the mid 80's overcast with a chance of thunder showers in the pm. I'll sent you my address you bring the drinks for Santa Day.
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Long Nics are Looonnng Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:36:59am |
re: #117 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Marinelli is the Coach of the 0-15 Detroit Lions. His son in law is the defensive coordinator.
Sorry, didn't finish my 117 properly.
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spidly Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:37:05am |
re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don't think we should interfere with nature. Why didn't they let Knut Knosh?
Or worse maybe nature would take a different course, Knut would want to knudle, and the guy would come to know Knut's Naughty Knob.
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Gearhead Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:37:51am |
re: #91 HighFlyingCrane
I create web sites and web services that are evolutionary, and revolutionary because there is just too much warmed over crap on the Internet for my liking
Plagiarism - the new Originality
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jcm Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:38:38am |
re: #125 Erik The Red
Sorry MM. Am out of the pool but still here dripping on the laptop. If it makes you feel better Christmas is only going to be in the mid 80's overcast with a chance of thunder showers in the pm. I'll sent you my address you bring the drinks for Santa Day.
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:38:42am |
re: #115 MandyManners
Why the logo of a Lizard sipping a cocktail? That’s me making money as my websites do the work.
Not for long, sonny.
LOL
His work is revolutionary.. A website in 2008 running on a 56k modem
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:39:08am |
LGF is burping. Anyone else having trouble? Maybe LessNow is fighting back?
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Sharmuta Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:39:16am |
re: #131 HoosierHoops
LOL
His work is revolutionary.. A website in 2008 running on a 56k modem
With stolen graphics!
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Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:39:17am |
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Sharmuta Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:39:36am |
re: #133 Walter L. Newton
LGF is burping. Anyone else having trouble? Maybe LessNow is fighting back?
I thought it was a hiccup.
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Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:40:18am |
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shoeless Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:40:28am |
Wow... he even gives a reason for the logo:
"*** Why the logo of a Lizard sipping a cocktail? That’s me making money as my websites do the work."
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Randall Gross Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:40:50am |
Speaking of graphics, it's time to decorate. I'll be back after I find or make a suitable Christmas Icon.
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yma o hyd Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:41:06am |
re: #89 Honorary Yooper
BTW, Shar, found a copy of The Anatomy of Fascism on Saturday. Should be a very interesting read. I also got another book at the same time, a new book: New Deal or Raw Deal? by Burton Folsom, Jr. Got through the first few chapters already. Most interesting, and pulls no punches on FDR's New Deal. Oddly enough, FDR seems to have had the same understanding of economics as BHO.
Ordered it.
I must say - the Lizard book recommendations are and have been outstanding! I've learned more since I became a lizard meself than when I was still looking at reviews in the msm.
Thanks everyone for those brilliant reads!
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:41:10am |
OT
Banks won't tell or can't tell where the bailout money is going and the oversight people in Congress can't either.
If this doesn't get you blood boiling...
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
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x-wing Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:41:29am |
re: #130 jcm
Wow, I've heard of cow tipping...but car tipping. You Seattlites know how to party. ;>}
//
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Big Steve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:42:12am |
I don't want to go to his site for fear that he will think he is muscling up with more people on line. I will warn you all that the Big Steve Camel on my avatar is copywrited!
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x-wing Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:42:13am |
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Erik The Red Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:42:40am |
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yma o hyd Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:42:51am |
re: #106 Sharmuta
I got this thread to open:
[Link: www.lessnau.com...]
Nope - the lizard blizzard buried it in its lizardlanche ...
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:43:00am |
Oh dear... A bottle of Baileys Irish cream just magically appeared on the desk next to my computer... What ever shall I do?
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CynicalConservative Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:43:25am |
re: #152 doriangrey
Oh dear... A bottle of Baileys Irish cream just magically appeared on the desk next to my computer... What ever shall I do?
Share!
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Quilly Mammoth Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:43:38am |
If you have a blog and you get those annoying pingbacks of text advertising some product? That's what scumbag Lessnau sells, or rather "brokers", as well as link ads that people deliberately put on their blogs.
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ichef Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:43:45am |
I worked for a travel dotcom one time. We received a letter from the big bad lawyers at certain software company owned travel company (now spun-off) claiming they "owned" the trade dress of "anything with an circle around it" ... long story short ... we won and then we protesting their logo which to this day is just registered not trade marked.
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Erik The Red Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:43:54am |
re: #133 Walter L. Newton
LGF is burping. Anyone else having trouble? Maybe LessNow is fighting back?
Been getting the wheel for the last couple hours on and off.
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Deseeded Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:44:21am |
Busted!
Sadly, we've probably given this wrinkle a lot more hits that he's used to.
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x-wing Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:44:32am |
re: #150 Sharmuta
But- you remembered to wash your hands, right?
Yes twice. I posted on the "fail" thread. Still awaiting moderation though.
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jcm Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:44:33am |
re: #144 x-wing
Wow, I've heard of cow tipping...but car tipping. You Seattlites know how to party. ;>}
//
LOL! I'm enjoying it, took the kids out for a walk yesterday, lots of fun. This kind of thing happens so seldom we really aren't prepared, infrastructure wise for it. It's an economic decisions spent tons of money for gear that gets used once every 10 years or so. Plus Seattle has hills, and drivers that don't have experience in the stuff. Adds up to a monumental mess.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:44:49am |
re: #152 doriangrey
Oh dear... A bottle of Baileys Irish cream just magically appeared on the desk next to my computer... What ever shall I do?
Well, if you are at work, I would imagine you would take it home with you. You couldn't possibly be thinking of drinking any of it in the office?
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Deseeded Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:45:11am |
BTW, if John wants to use my broken face avatar as the image of his business model, he has my full permission.
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sngnsgt Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:45:24am |
re: #152 doriangrey
Oh dear... A bottle of Baileys Irish cream just magically appeared on the desk next to my computer... What ever shall I do?
Drink!
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:45:52am |
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sngnsgt Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:46:56am |
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:46:57am |
re: #145 Big Steve
I don't want to go to his site for fear that he will think he is muscling up with more people on line. I will warn you all that the Big Steve Camel on my avatar is copywrited!
I'm copywriting one's and zero's..
You hear that Bill Gates? I'm coming after you!
LOL
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:47:11am |
re: #160 Walter L. Newton
Well, if you are at work, I would imagine you would take it home with you. You couldn't possibly be thinking of drinking any of it in the office?
Cough cough... I'm at home... On vacation... ;)
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Erik The Red Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:47:18am |
re: #152 doriangrey
Oh dear... A bottle of Baileys Irish cream just magically appeared on the desk next to my computer... What ever shall I do?
dg try Amarula cream. Better than Baileys. Trust me.
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Gearhead Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:47:48am |
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:48:23am |
re: #161 Deseeded
BTW, if John wants to use my broken face avatar as the image of his business model, he has my full permission.
Wow! yu're not deseeded, you've been decleated.
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:48:57am |
re: #167 doriangrey
Cough cough... I'm at home... On vacation... ;)
ha!...how many did you trap with that obvious ploy?...good one!
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Throbert McGee Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:49:34am |
re: #4 Ford_Prefect
Trying to open the link. I think we crashed it.
It still loads the LGF lizard as the "favicon," though.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:49:46am |
re: #130 jcm
I saw the pictures of people puting on snow chains on their tires in parking lots. There's not that much snow, from what I can see, in the pictures. Geeze, and Yoopers have to make do with more snow, and no chains what-so-ever (they're illegal to use in Michigan).
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jcm Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:49:56am |
OT...
NYT, IT'S BUSH'S FAULT!
White House philosophy stoked mortgage bonfire
The global financial system was teetering on the edge of collapse when President George W. Bush and his economics team huddled in the Roosevelt Room of the White House for a briefing that, in the words of one participant, "scared the hell out of everybody."
GWB put more controls into budgets. Barney Frank in the Finance Committee block the increased controls.
A Pox on the NYT.
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:50:08am |
re: #125 Erik The Red
Sorry MM. Am out of the pool but still here dripping on the laptop. If it makes you feel better Christmas is only going to be in the mid 80's overcast with a chance of thunder showers in the pm. I'll sent you my address you bring the drinks for Santa Day.
*sniffle*
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Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:50:32am |
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jcm Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:50:40am |
re: #173 Honorary Yooper
I saw the pictures of people puting on snow chains on their tires in parking lots. There's not that much snow, from what I can see, in the pictures. Geeze, and Yoopers have to make do with more snow, and no chains what-so-ever (they're illegal to use in Michigan).
The number of front will drive cars running around with chains on the back will blow you away.
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Randall Gross Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:51:14am |
One way to combat creeps like this is to make sure to flag any links or pingbacks from him as "Spam" to Akismet.
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:51:20am |
re: #173 Honorary Yooper
I saw the pictures of people puting on snow chains on their tires in parking lots. There's not that much snow, from what I can see, in the pictures. Geeze, and Yoopers have to make do with more snow, and no chains what-so-ever (they're illegal to use in Michigan).
snow and cars just freaks some people out...I'm a displaced gander and after about 18yrs old never gave it much thought
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:51:38am |
re: #171 albusteve
ha!...how many did you trap with that obvious ploy?...good one!
Obvious ploy? Are you suggesting that most Lizards dont have a nice old 1950's era solid oak desk in their living room for their computer? Gads... the horror... ;p
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:51:38am |
re: #131 HoosierHoops
LOL
His work is revolutionary.. A website in 2008 running on a 56k modem
Give him a break. It was 33.6K in 2007.
/
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gmsc Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:52:00am |
OT: Jury Finds 5 Men Guilty of Plotting to Kill Soldiers at Ft. Dix, N.J.
0bama not expected to speak out against people who plot to kill soldiers at Fort Dix.
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thedopefishlives Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:52:17am |
re: #177 jcm
The number of front will drive cars running around with chains on the back will blow you away.
The very thought of that makes me smile. Of course, up here in the frigid north country, people aren't much smarter. I'd need a calculator to add up all the people I saw off the road this morning on my way to work.
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Look At My New Grandbaby! Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:52:22am |
I have a website that offers public domain graphics for free download. But hotlinkers get rickrolled.
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israellycool Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:52:46am |
re: #172 Throbert McGee
And I took a screenshot of the offending lizard clone, which you can see at the first link in Charles' post.
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Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:52:54am |
re: #182 gmsc
OT: Jury Finds 5 Men Guilty of Plotting to Kill Soldiers at Ft. Dix, N.J.
0bama not expected to speak out against people who plot to kill soldiers at Fort Dix.
Obama pal William Ayers should be convicted of the same thing.
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Quilly Mammoth Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:52:56am |
re: #155 ichef
snip We received a letter from the big bad lawyers at certain software company owned travel company (now spun-off) claiming they "owned" the trade dress of "anything with an circle around it" snip
Well yeah, Little Caesars filed suit against any pizza chain that used the words "hot" and "Ready" in their advertisements. After the dust settled it is clear that LC can only claim the phrase "Hot 'n Ready". However, the law concerning purposely drawn images is clear and Charles clearly states at teh bottom of every page that All Rights Reserved".
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:52:58am |
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jcm Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:53:04am |
re: #179 albusteve
snow and cars just freaks some people out...I'm a displaced gander and after about 18yrs old never gave it much thought
I own chains, for going over the mountain passes, they can be required at times. Around Seattle I've used chains once, to get out of a up hill drive where I lived.
This is dry powder snow, quite good traction... If you know how.
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JacksonTn Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:53:14am |
re: #182 gmsc
OT: Jury Finds 5 Men Guilty of Plotting to Kill Soldiers at Ft. Dix, N.J.
0bama not expected to speak out against people who plot to kill soldiers at Fort Dix.
gmsc ...first things first for the O Team ...they are preparing the document dump for tomorrow on the Blagocrapolafest ...the media will probably use the documents as the only "facts" they will ever need ...
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:53:18am |
re: #180 doriangrey
Obvious ploy? Are you suggesting that most Lizards dont have a nice old 1950's era solid oak desk in their living room for their computer? Gads... the horror... ;p
you said on the overnight thread you were on vacation...they obviously didnt catch it...drink!
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:53:59am |
re: #185 Alouette
I have a website that offers public domain graphics for free download. But hotlinkers get rickrolled.
really? I really need an avatar and don't have photoshop. Will that help me find a cool one..
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jcm Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:54:11am |
re: #182 gmsc
OT: Jury Finds 5 Men Guilty of Plotting to Kill Soldiers at Ft. Dix, N.J.
0bama not expected to speak out against people who plot to kill soldiers at Fort Dix.
Charles! Threadworthy!
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CapeCoddah Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:54:17am |
Good Afternoon everyone!
Found a nice article about president Bush and VP Cheney writing to the families of all of the soldiers who have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
[Link: washingtontimes.com...]
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Dr. Shalit Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:54:18am |
re: #152 doriangrey
Oh dear... A bottle of Baileys Irish cream just magically appeared on the desk next to my computer... What ever shall I do?
dorian -
TRADE IT for something real to drink.
-S-
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Son of the Black Dog Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:54:25am |
Serious OT
Anyone who has not read the Leo Szilard thread should do so. Read the referenced article and the first 100 or so comments. Much wisdom there.
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:54:26am |
re: #192 albusteve
you said on the overnight thread you were on vacation...they obviously didnt catch it...drink!
ROTFLMAO... Well I certainly am not going to use it for a paper weight on my desk... lol...lol...lol...
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JacksonTn Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:54:38am |
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x-wing Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:54:43am |
re: #177 jcm
The number of front will drive cars running around with chains on the back will blow you away.
LOL. I will refrain. After the pic. with the people trying to un-stick that car by pushing it sideways. LOL
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Dianna Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:55:01am |
Ha!
I got the nicest little note from Skippy's List!
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:55:02am |
re: #66 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
It doesn't mention alcohol, but somehow, I think it's involved...
The cops would've kept him until he was sober.
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gmsc Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:55:06am |
re: #187 Silhouette
Obama pal William Ayers should be convicted of the same thing.
I was just wondering if these 5 will now be sentenced to university teaching positions.
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:55:20am |
re: #189 MandyManners
Better than de-nutted.
But isn't being de-nutted the same as being deseeded?
:)
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bellamags Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:55:23am |
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Look At My New Grandbaby! Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:55:34am |
re: #193 HoosierHoops
really? I really need an avatar and don't have photoshop. Will that help me find a cool one..
Only if you're really into the Civil War.
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Erik The Red Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:55:38am |
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:55:54am |
re: #201 x-wing
LOL. I will refrain. After the pic. with the people trying to un-stick that car by pushing it sideways. LOL
Yeah, I had quite a laugh seeing that too. If you do it right, you don't even need help to unstick a car from the snow.
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invictus1 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:55:55am |
re: #4 Ford_Prefect
Trying to open the link. I think we crashed it.
I just found this video of the owner trying to open his website.
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:56:16am |
re: #205 HoosierHoops
But isn't being de-nutted the same as being deseeded?
:)
Actually I suspect deseeded is the same as being de-flowered...
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:56:44am |
re: #190 jcm
I own chains, for going over the mountain passes, they can be required at times. Around Seattle I've used chains once, to get out of a up hill drive where I lived.
This is dry powder snow, quite good traction... If you know how.
I lived in Colorado for seven years...you just didnt go west outa Denver without chains...a pain in the ass but they work...incidently its that cold powder we worshipped...tally ho!
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thedopefishlives Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:57:01am |
re: #201 x-wing
LOL. I will refrain. After the pic. with the people trying to un-stick that car by pushing it sideways. LOL
I saw a man on my way to work who was hopelessly buried in a ditch. It was on a hill, so there was really no way he'd be able to get traction to go forward, and the ditch was steep (and the roads had been plowed), so there was a steep bank up to the road that he never could've gotten over. To his credit, he refused to give up, even as he kept digging himself deeper and deeper into the snow.
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:57:23am |
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Long Nics are Looonnng Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:57:56am |
re: #214 thedopefishlives
Did you at least open your window so he could hear your laughter?
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:58:06am |
re: #198 doriangrey
ROTFLMAO... Well I certainly am not going to use it for a paper weight on my desk... lol...lol...lol...
if you drink it all at your desk you will become the paper weight!
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:58:18am |
re: #214 thedopefishlives
I saw a man on my way to work who was hopelessly buried in a ditch. It was on a hill, so there was really no way he'd be able to get traction to go forward, and the ditch was steep (and the roads had been plowed), so there was a steep bank up to the road that he never could've gotten over. To his credit, he refused to give up, even as he kept digging himself deeper and deeper into the snow.
Obviously he was trying to find the ground to get some traction... ;p
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:58:33am |
re: #205 HoosierHoops
But isn't being de-nutted the same as being deseeded?
:)
Snipping doesn't require the whole load unless you're a dog or a cat or a soon-to-be steer.
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Olderthandirt Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:58:47am |
Off with his head, figuratively of course! Either that or send "him" to Gitmo!
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Dianna Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:58:52am |
re: #211 doriangrey
Actually I suspect deseeded is the same as being de-flowered...
Was it for this thy flower seduced the wandering bee?
- I can't remember the author's name, but it was hysterical.
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nylecoj Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:58:56am |
re: #159 jcm
LOL! I'm enjoying it, took the kids out for a walk yesterday, lots of fun. This kind of thing happens so seldom we really aren't prepared, infrastructure wise for it. It's an economic decisions spent tons of money for gear that gets used once every 10 years or so. Plus Seattle has hills, and drivers that don't have experience in the stuff. Adds up to a monumental mess.
My sister is one of those drivers. She is not a good driver at the best of times, but apparently she got stuck on a hill and left her car to walk somewhere. I understand she saw that collision the other day that had that bus hanging off the over pass. (During her walk.)
OTOH over here on the east side we have more experience and a few less hills so we aren't doing too bad. We've got about 8" and I hear it may get up in the 20's. Woohoo! I have to admit I am happy about the white Christmas.
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:59:02am |
re: #206 bellamags
Holy crap . that hamster is so cute I squealed.
Just wanna' tickle his widdle belly.
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thedopefishlives Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:59:04am |
re: #216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did you at least open your window so he could hear your laughter?
With the wind chill reaching down into the -40 territory, there's no blasted way I'm opening my window for ANYTHING. Especially something so petty as laughing at his unfortunate situation.
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:59:30am |
re: #217 albusteve
if you drink it all at your desk you will become the paper weight!
Hellooo... Half Irish half Scottish here... That aint gonna happen... ;p
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:59:32am |
re: #207 Alouette
Only if you're really into the Civil War.
nah..not into that..Something sports related...like a picture of a basketball under 32k...
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bellamags Mon, Dec 22, 2008 10:59:34am |
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:00:29am |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:00:29am |
re: #202 Dianna
Ha!
I got the nicest little note from Skippy's List!
LGF got stuck when I was trying to answer your post, somewhere above. Yes I did get the email and I already responed with a return email.
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:00:48am |
re: #223 MandyManners
Just wanna' tickle his widdle belly.
Just be careful you dont tickle his little trigger... ;p
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:00:57am |
re: #224 thedopefishlives
With the wind chill reaching down into the -40 territory, there's no blasted way I'm opening my window for ANYTHING. Especially something so petty as laughing at his unfortunate situation.
You're no fun.
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:01:27am |
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thedopefishlives Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:01:40am |
re: #231 MandyManners
You're no fun.
I'm an immigrant to the frozen tundra. Of course I'm no fun. :P
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:02:04am |
re: #225 doriangrey
Hellooo... Half Irish half Scottish here... That aint gonna happen... ;p
whatdyaknow...that's my blood for the most part too...got it...
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:02:22am |
re: #221 Dianna
Was it for this thy flower seduced the wandering bee?
- I can't remember the author's name, but it was hysterical.
Emily Whatshername?
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:02:50am |
re: #234 albusteve
whatdyaknow...that's my blood for the most part too...got it...
So you know why god invented whiskey then eh?
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:02:57am |
re: #233 thedopefishlives
I'm an immigrant to the frozen tundra. Of course I'm no fun. :P
I truly don't know how people do it. Cold is painful.
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:03:19am |
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Quilly Mammoth Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:03:33am |
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:03:34am |
re: #233 thedopefishlives
I'm an immigrant to the frozen tundra. Of course I'm no fun. :P
I think all Hoosiers secretly believe they they are race car drivers..When it snows it seems everybody speeds up...
Yipee!
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:03:42am |
re: #236 doriangrey
So you know why god invented whiskey then eh?
I'm probably supposed to but I dont...why?
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Nevergiveup Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:04:03am |
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bellamags Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:04:19am |
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Dianna Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:04:21am |
re: #235 MandyManners
Emily Whatshername?
I can't remember. It's a hysterical scene where the strawberries rise up and mourn.
I periodically remember it and proceed to fall out of my chair.
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:04:22am |
re: #243 albusteve
I'm probably supposed to but I dont...why?
To prevent the Irish from taking over the world... ;p
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Erik The Red Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:04:32am |
Ok too much sun, choline and scotch. What are we talking about.
/first time white smoke
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:04:37am |
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thedopefishlives Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:04:52am |
re: #237 MandyManners
I truly don't know how people do it. Cold is painful.
And I'm not even one of the crazy ones. If I look out my front window, I'm betting I'll see at least two dozen ice houses on the lake where I live. Them's the nutty folks.
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JacksonTn Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:05:09am |
If you ever had a logo or anything that represents you trademarked and had someone "steal" it you would know it makes you want to choke somebody ...happened to me once and I was totally p*ssed off ...
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:05:21am |
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:05:21am |
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:05:43am |
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:06:37am |
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Nevergiveup Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:06:42am |
Fort Dix Five: Guilty
[Link: ace.mu.nu...]
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:07:02am |
re: #252 MandyManners
No. A woman who wrote something about a bee.
ROTFLMAO... I know, I know, just punning around with you... Emily Post.. Author of Little Miss Manners... AKA Mandy Manners... ;p
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:07:10am |
re: #246 Dianna
I can't remember. It's a hysterical scene where the strawberries rise up and mourn.
I periodically remember it and proceed to fall out of my chair.
Was she from the 1970s? Sounds trippin'.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:07:41am |
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:07:47am |
re: #251 JacksonTn
If you ever had a logo or anything that represents you trademarked and had someone "steal" it you would know it makes you want to choke somebody ...happened to me once and I was totally p*ssed off ...
I'm never worried about it..If somebody stole one of my graphics we should have them committed..
/although in my defense i do a mean stick figure
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:08:00am |
re: #250 thedopefishlives
And I'm not even one of the crazy ones. If I look out my front window, I'm betting I'll see at least two dozen ice houses on the lake where I live. Them's the nutty folks.
Houses made out of ice? If I had testicles they'd be getting really small just thinking about it.
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nyc redneck Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:08:12am |
wow, there are people out there who will steal anything that isn't nailed down.
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:08:29am |
re: #258 doriangrey
ROTFLMAO... I know, I know, just punning around with you... Emily Post.. Author of Little Miss Manners... AKA Mandy Manners... ;p
My name is an oxymoron.
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JacksonTn Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:09:20am |
re: #261 HoosierHoops
I'm never worried about it..If somebody stole one of my graphics we should have them committed..
/although in my defense i do a mean stick figure
Right but if it has to do with representation of your business it can be a bad thing ...
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Dianna Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:09:43am |
re: #259 MandyManners
Was she from the 1970s? Sounds trippin'.
80's, I think. The same writer who edited Chicks in Chainmail. Her first novel was something like New York by Knight, and this was a sequel. I was "eh, whatever," about the first novel, but quite liked the second.
It's probably on a shelf, somewhere at home.
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thedopefishlives Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:09:58am |
re: #262 MandyManners
Houses made out of ice? If I had testicles they'd be getting really small just thinking about it.
While that was not my intended translation of the expression, it probably works out to be roughly the same idea if you saw the object in question.
/And this is why I stay inside with a mug of hot chocolate and a good book
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:10:01am |
re: #264 MandyManners
My name is an oxymoron.
ROTFLMAO... and all this time I thought it was an oblique reference to the character of the same name in the movie Animal House...
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:10:37am |
re: #242 HoosierHoops
I think all Hoosiers secretly believe they they are race car drivers..When it snows it seems everybody speeds up...
Yipee!
You should've seen Chicago this morning. They closed the eastbound [Neither] Elgin [Nor] O'Hare Expy this morning due to a series of accidents. Saw the pictures on the TV. It wasn't pretty. On the other hand, I-55 was an easy 70mph trip all the way to work.
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Kragar Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:10:37am |
Fort Dix five guilty of conspiracy to kill soldiers
Five Muslim immigrants from South Jersey were convicted today of plotting to kill American soldiers, a crime that prosecutors said demonstrated how Al Qaeda was using the Internet to recruit, train and incite supporters for attacks in the United States and around the world.
Jurors at federal district court in Camden deliberated into a sixth day before declaring the men guilty of conspiracy. The jurors, however, acquitted the men of an additional charge of attempted murder.
Along with the verdict, the jurors sent U.S. District Judge Robert Kugler a note explaining the serious nature of their deliberations.
"The burden imposed on us has been heavy, but we are confident our verdict has been reached fairly and impartially," according to the jurors' note Kugler read aloud in court.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:11:54am |
re: #268 doriangrey
ROTFLMAO... and all this time I thought it was an oblique reference to the character of the same name in the movie Animal House...
/Mandy Pepperidge
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:12:19am |
re: #265 JacksonTn
Right but if it has to do with representation of your business it can be a bad thing ...
I totally understand..
But in my case i would just draw a really tall stick figure dunking a little circle that represented a basketball..
I've always been jealous of artists.. They just amaze me with their talent.
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:12:22am |
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:12:38am |
re: #262 MandyManners
Houses made out of ice? If I had testicles they'd be getting really small just thinking about it.
Well, they could be wooden shacks on the ice for ice fishing. Saw that on Keweenaw Bay lots of times during the winter. People would even drive their vehicles out onto the ice, next to their shacks. Ice is strong stuff when its thick enough. I saw huge SUVs and trucks there.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:13:23am |
re: #270 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm sure CAIR is already protesting and asking 0bama for a pardon.
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Desert Dog Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:13:44am |
re: #274 Honorary Yooper
Well, they could be wooden shacks on the ice for ice fishing. Saw that on Keweenaw Bay lots of times during the winter. People would even drive their vehicles out onto the ice, next to their shacks. Ice is strong stuff when its thick enough. I saw huge SUVs and trucks there.
Some of those "fishing shacks" are the size of houses
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NelsFree Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:14:04am |
re: #89 Honorary Yooper
Thank you, H Y, for the link. I can always count on my fellow Lizards for links to good stuff. Including "AttackHammy".
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:14:43am |
re: #274 Honorary Yooper
Well, they could be wooden shacks on the ice for ice fishing. Saw that on Keweenaw Bay lots of times during the winter. People would even drive their vehicles out onto the ice, next to their shacks. Ice is strong stuff when its thick enough. I saw huge SUVs and trucks there.
they live in the friggin things...heat, generators, satellites etc...they're maniacs
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:14:45am |
re: #274 Honorary Yooper
Well, they could be wooden shacks on the ice for ice fishing. Saw that on Keweenaw Bay lots of times during the winter. People would even drive their vehicles out onto the ice, next to their shacks. Ice is strong stuff when its thick enough. I saw huge SUVs and trucks there.
There was a Dirty Jobs in which Mike worked with a company that salvaged vehicles that fell through ice in Alaska.
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maddogg Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:15:48am |
Just in case anybody was wondering, there's still time to get me the coolest revolver ever made for Christman:)
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Erik The Red Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:15:59am |
Good night for real this time. 21h15 here stay wet and scaley see you on the LNDT.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:16:27am |
re: #280 shoeless
The site is completely different now...
The people responsible for the logo have been sacked.
Why not tri a holiday in Sweden this year?
See mani interesting furri animals
Including the majestic Moose
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shoeless Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:16:31am |
but the icon in the address field is still the lizard...
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thedopefishlives Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:16:42am |
re: #274 Honorary Yooper
Well, they could be wooden shacks on the ice for ice fishing. Saw that on Keweenaw Bay lots of times during the winter. People would even drive their vehicles out onto the ice, next to their shacks. Ice is strong stuff when its thick enough. I saw huge SUVs and trucks there.
The lake I live on isn't big enough for the "big playas" to come out. We get cheap plastic ice-fishing houses out my way. A few miles up the road is the big lake in the region, where you get the guys that #278 Albusteve talks about, the guys with the gas heat and satellite TV and such. And every year, at least one guy drives his truck out there too early and falls through. *laughs maniacally*
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bellamags Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:17:15am |
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No. Just, no. Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:17:21am |
The logo still appears in my navigation bar, but the front page is clean. Now, an apology to Charles & those who helped him create the logo.
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CynicalConservative Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:17:32am |
re: #284 shoeless
but the icon in the address field is still the lizard...
That may be a cache'd copy.
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Omachka Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:17:39am |
Hiya Lizards! I've sure missed coming here to visit. Sick computer made it hard to post so I sort of gave up. Finally fixed now I think.
"Less is No" has taken Charles' graphic off the top of his page but added 3 new posts using it for the direct link to the articles. Guess he thought no one would notice those if he took it off the top of the page. Not sure how the advertising works... he's not getting paid for hits to his site is he?
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:17:39am |
re: #280 shoeless
The site is completely different now...
LOL
somebody got a few hundred emails and has been a busy little boy today.
He should email an apology to Charles as a professional courtesy.
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Alberta Oil Peon Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:18:01am |
re: #216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did you at least open your window so he could hear your laughter?
That would be needlessly cruel, unless you know for certain that the poor sap got himself in the ditch by virtue of his own stupidity.
Think: "There, but for the grace of God, go I." It's quite possible the fellow had to take the ditch to avoid being hit by another vehicle. I spend a lot of time on unpaved industrial roads, that in Winter, are nothing but narrow strips of hard-packed snow, maybe a lane and half in width. If I meet a bed truck with a D9 Cat or a rig substructure on it, I will take the ditch to avoid a collision that could decapitate my truck (and me with it). It's the done thing. And most of the time, if one takes the ditch in such an avoidance maneuver, the trucker will stop, and offer a pull out. You don't leave people in the ditch, miles from civilization, in -30 weather.
I should point out that most of these ditches are in fact a broad, shallow swale, with several feet of drifted and plow-thrown snow. It provides for a pretty soft landing, but when you hit it, you are planted. On many of these roads, they use radio control, and you provide yourself with a VHF radio, and call your position and direction at each kilometer post. I might say, "pickup, empty, thirteen," indicating a small vehicle, outbound from the zero marker at 13 km. A vehicle going the other way would call "loaded". This convention is based on how the log-hauler trucks (major users of the roads) operate, empty from the mill to the loading point, and loaded back from the loading point to the mill. All other users follow this convention, even if they are hauling goods out to be dropped off, and plan to return empty.
More than you needed to know, eh?
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Quilly Mammoth Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:18:26am |
re: #266 Dianna
80's, I think. The same writer who edited Chicks in Chainmail. Her first novel was something like New York by Knight, and this was a sequel. I was "eh, whatever," about the first novel, but quite liked the second.
It's probably on a shelf, somewhere at home.
Elf Defense by Esther Friesner?
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LGoPs Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:19:26am |
re: #262 MandyManners
Houses made out of ice? If I had testicles they'd be getting really small just thinking about it.
It would probably be bad form to bring them a house warming gift...
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jwpaine Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:19:52am |
Looks like LessNau has removed the kyped logo (no explanation or apology; it's just not there anymore).
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Spiny Norman Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:20:19am |
I got the site to come up now. The Lizard Lounge graphic seems to be gone.
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Dianna Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:20:34am |
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Long Nics are Looonnng Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:21:17am |
Where's Scottishbuzzsaw been lately?
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Kragar Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:21:26am |
Gunman 'requests Pakistan help'
India says the sole surviving gunman from last month's Mumbai (Bombay) attacks has sought help from Pakistan.
The request came in a letter handed to Pakistani diplomats in Delhi.
Mohammed Ajmal Amir Qasab, who is in Indian custody, admitted in the letter that he and the other attackers were from Pakistan, Indian officials said.
Pakistani officials say they are studying the contents of the letter. Islamabad has so far refused to acknowledge the gunmen were Pakistani.
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Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:21:28am |
re: #270 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Five Muslim immigrants from South Jersey
Sounds like they immigrated from Jersey, but now they are here.
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Kragar Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:22:17am |
re: #300 Silhouette
Sounds like they immigrated from Jersey, but now they are here.
Have you ever been to South Jersey? I'd try and get out too!
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Quilly Mammoth Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:22:20am |
Not quite cleaned up:
*** Why the logo of a Lizard sipping a cocktail? That’s me making money as my websites do the work.John Lessnau
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MandyManners Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:22:41am |
I'm doing my last huge (50+ items) load of food shopping. If I'm not back in two hours, send him to find me. (Nice axe.)
Hat-tip: WriterMom!
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No. Just, no. Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:22:58am |
The open thread is at 1,381 comments. Does anybody know what the record is?
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Kragar Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:22:59am |
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Kragar Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:23:16am |
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wrenchwench Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:23:54am |
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:23:56am |
re: #304 EmmmieG
The open thread is at 1,381 comments. Does anybody know what the record is?
over 4k I think
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:24:11am |
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wrenchwench Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:24:31am |
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:24:40am |
re: #304 EmmmieG
The open thread is at 1,381 comments. Does anybody know what the record is?
Not me, but I do know that 1381 isnt all that close to it...
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Long Nics are Looonnng Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:24:53am |
re: #309 HoosierHoops
To each his own, Indiana boy!
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:25:02am |
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lifeofthemind Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:25:31am |
That lizard was Stinky's evil twin Skippy.
Skippy has been drinking and sinking to petty spamming ever since he lost the audition for the insurance gecko gig.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:25:41am |
Well,
In Safari, the logo is still coming up in the address bar, at the beginning of the HTTP URL. I don't know if I am seeing it because it's something in my cache, or if he is still sending it.
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:25:47am |
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Kragar Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:26:00am |
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Long Nics are Looonnng Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:26:10am |
re: #312 doriangrey
Not me, but I do know that 1381 isnt all that close to it...
I wonder about the record for comments on a thread before a new thread was opened.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:26:23am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:27:19am |
re: #291 Alberta Oil Peon
Sounds like Ice Road Truckers. But then there wouldn't be a ditch.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:27:19am |
re: #303 MandyManners
What is my photo doing there? :-0
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Quilly Mammoth Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:27:28am |
re: #305 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Should change it to a slug.
Yeah, cause the moron still has it as the info icon for the address bar..
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:27:28am |
re: #313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
To each his own, Indiana boy!
I was born and raised in California and currently lives in Indiana
When I buy a pickup truck with a gun rack..then I'll be an Indiana boy! LOL
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:27:36am |
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Desert Dog Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:27:59am |
This just in: Possibly the most important scientific discovery since gravity!
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wrenchwench Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:28:11am |
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Long Nics are Looonnng Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:28:38am |
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lawhawk Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:28:54am |
So, the Fort Dix terror suspects are now convicted terrorists. The jury found them not guilty of attempted murder, but found them guilty of conspiracy. Max sentences? Life in prison.
And to think that it was the result of an alert Circuit City store clerk who tipped off law enforcement to these terrorists.
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Dianna Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:29:14am |
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:29:38am |
re: #325 doriangrey
And the record for down dings? Annefrance?
Yes, but Annefrance does not have the lowest karma.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:29:38am |
re: #299 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Gunman 'requests Pakistan help'
India says the sole surviving gunman from last month's Mumbai (Bombay) attacks has sought help from Pakistan.The request came in a letter handed to Pakistani diplomats in Delhi.
Mohammed Ajmal Amir Qasab, who is in Indian custody, admitted in the letter that he and the other attackers were from Pakistan, Indian officials said.
Pakistani officials say they are studying the contents of the letter. Islamabad has so far refused to acknowledge the gunmen were Pakistani.
Remember, Mohammed, if you are caught or killed, the ISI will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Good luck Mohammed. This recording will self destruct in 10 seconds.
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:29:48am |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:30:10am |
re: #329 lawhawk
So, the Fort Dix terror suspects are now convicted terrorists. The jury found them not guilty of attempted murder, but found them guilty of conspiracy. Max sentences? Life in prison.
And to think that it was the result of an alert Circuit City store clerk who tipped off law enforcement to these terrorists.
Wouldn't it be nice if they could get a pardon for Christmas?
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wrenchwench Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:30:41am |
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:31:11am |
re: #327 wrenchwench
Under another nic?
I was wrong...I do remember a night we went over 4k...at the time I thought it was the longest ever
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turn Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:31:25am |
re: #326 Desert Dog
This just in: Possibly the most important scientific discovery since gravity!
One things for sure, I don't suffer from anhedonia.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Got the gut and the smile on turnwife's face to prove it.
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DistantThunder Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:31:26am |
I am not prone to emotionality, but I find myself very emotional about the Fort Dix convictions of these terrorist predators. I have served as a USO volunteer for several years feeding the troops as they leave for the "sandbox" through McGuire Airforce base and upon their arrival back through Fort Dix.
They arrive by the hundreds covered in sand, faces weary, carrying their weapons. Many of them are older, reservists, dentists, doctors, engineers teachers; some are young enough to be my own children. I especially marvel at the young blonde-haired girls who would look more at home on a sunny beach than in camo - and carrying a weapon almost 1/2 their size.
Thank God for President Bush and VP Cheney and their unrelenting commitment to keeping us safe. God bless the young clerk who said after viewing the terrorists video, "WTF" and then had the courage to act like a REAL AMERICAN and get involved although doing so would risk his safety.
This is so damn close to home - I'm in a bit of shock to tell the truth. And a special FU to Bill Ayers whose team of geniuses also attempted to bomb a dance at Fort Dix - he rightly belongs in prison, too.
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:31:29am |
re: #331 Honorary Yooper
Yes, but Annefrance does not have the lowest karma.
But doesn't annefrance have the record for most down dings for one comment.
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Eowyn2 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:32:41am |
spinning wheel got to go round
yellow painted pony...
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:32:58am |
re: #340 HoosierHoops
But doesn't annefrance have the record for most down dings for one comment.
Yes, she has the record for most downdings in one comment, but the lowest karma belongs to another person.
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Desert Dog Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:33:04am |
re: #329 lawhawk
So, the Fort Dix terror suspects are now convicted terrorists. The jury found them not guilty of attempted murder, but found them guilty of conspiracy. Max sentences? Life in prison.
And to think that it was the result of an alert Circuit City store clerk who tipped off law enforcement to these terrorists.
Is the trial they had going to be the same type that the Gitmo bastards will get once Obama closes it down? It was a Federal courthouse, correct?
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:33:07am |
re: #334 Walter L. Newton
Wouldn't it be nice if they could get a pardon for Christmas?
If by pardon, you mean one way express no stops no waiting ticket straight to hell, then certainly... ;)
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turn Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:33:49am |
re: #329 lawhawk
So, the Fort Dix terror suspects are now convicted terrorists. The jury found them not guilty of attempted murder, but found them guilty of conspiracy. Max sentences? Life in prison.
And to think that it was the result of an alert Circuit City store clerk who tipped off law enforcement to these terrorists.
Good news! Hope they get the max in general population. And the Circuit City clerk is a hero.
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DaddyG Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:33:57am |
re: #326 Desert Dog
This just in: Possibly the most important scientific discovery since gravity!
Larry Niven saw this coming...
It wasn't just the happy smile that fooled them. It was the fist-sized droud that protruded like a black plastic canker from the crown of Louis Wu's head. They were dealing with a current addict, and they knew what to expect. For years the man must have had no thought but for the wire trickling current into the pleasure center of his brain. He would be near starvation from self-neglect. He was small, a foot and a half shorter than either of the invaders. He --
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:34:24am |
Since we have apparently crashed the thief's website, can anyone tell me what was on this "unique" blog?
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Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:34:50am |
re: #334 Walter L. Newton
Wouldn't it be nice if they could get a pardon for Christmas?
AQ Adam's parents, the guy who wanted to kill us in the name of Islam because many of us are Christians, asked Bush for a pardon because it would be the Christian thing to do.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:34:57am |
re: #334 Walter L. Newton
Wouldn't it be nice if they could get a pardon for Christmas?
0bama hasn't taken office yet, and I doubt Bush will grant one. (But the way he's been recently, I'm not so sure.)
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Ben Hur Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:35:25am |
I think The One should release them and ALL Islamic political prisoners as a show of good faith for Eid, and for the peace process.
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jwb7605 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:35:54am |
re: #336 albusteve
I was wrong...I do remember a night we went over 4k...at the time I thought it was the longest ever
Before Charles upgraded his server and during several election open threads, 1000+ was enough to hang things up nicely.
After the upgrade, I've seen 800+ post threads behave like the first hundred did a while back (relatively speedy).
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Dave_Da_Kid Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:36:06am |
They are takings our Lizard? JIHAD! Death, or at least overloaded servers, to the infidel that would dare defile the sacred iguana!
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DistantThunder Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:36:47am |
re: #349 Kosh's Shadow
0bama hasn't taken office yet, and I doubt Bush will grant one. (But the way he's been recently, I'm not so sure.)
I think Pres. Bush has seen too many wounded soldiers and devastated families to ever pardon a member of the source of the problem.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:36:48am |
re: #344 doriangrey
If by pardon, you mean one way express no stops no waiting ticket straight to hell, then certainly... ;)
re: #348 Silhouette
AQ Adam's parents, the guy who wanted to kill us in the name of Islam because many of us are Christians, asked Bush for a pardon because it would be the Christian thing to do.
re: #349 Kosh's Shadow
0bama hasn't taken office yet, and I doubt Bush will grant one. (But the way he's been recently, I'm not so sure.)
I forgot the sarc tag.
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Creeping Eruption Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:36:59am |
re: #350 Ben Hur
I think The One should release them and ALL Islamic political prisoners as a show of good faith for Eid, and for the peace process.
Might be good for the Eid, but not for the Ego.
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Harry Tuttle Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:37:21am |
Where did the looters put all your money?
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
"Where'd the bailout money go? Shhh, it's a secret
Email this Story
Dec 22, 9:52 AM (ET)
By MATT APUZZO
WASHINGTON (AP) - It's something any bank would demand to know before handing out a loan: Where's the money going?
But after receiving billions in aid from U.S. taxpayers, the nation's largest banks say they can't track exactly how they're spending the money or they simply refuse to discuss it.
"We've lent some of it. We've not lent some of it. We've not given any accounting of, 'Here's how we're doing it,'" said Thomas Kelly, a spokesman for JPMorgan Chase, which received $25 billion in emergency bailout money. "We have not disclosed that to the public. We're declining to."
The Associated Press contacted 21 banks that received at least $1 billion in government money and asked four questions: How much has been spent? What was it spent on? How much is being held in savings, and what's the plan for the rest?
None of the banks provided specific answers."
Bend over lizards.
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DaddyG Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:37:28am |
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Quilly Mammoth Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:37:58am |
re: #326 Desert Dog
This just in: Possibly the most important scientific discovery since gravity!
Great, now we'll have Wireheads breaking into people's apartments for their hearing aid batteries.
"Dude! Help a brother out with a trickle?"
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:38:09am |
re: #351 jwb7605
Before Charles upgraded his server and during several election open threads, 1000+ was enough to hang things up nicely.
After the upgrade, I've seen 800+ post threads behave like the first hundred did a while back (relatively speedy).
Since the server upgrade I haven't seen any thread so much as hick-up... OK well there was that one thread where the new comments button didnt work... But it did load pretty well when refreshed...
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Dianna Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:38:13am |
re: #348 Silhouette
AQ Adam's parents, the guy who wanted to kill us in the name of Islam because many of us are Christians, asked Bush for a pardon because it would be the Christian thing to do.
You mean little Johnny Walker Lind.
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DistantThunder Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:38:25am |
On to shopping. Can anyone recommend a webcam brand for a MAC ibook? It is for my 19 year old daughter at college.
Anyone here from San Diego? I'm looking to get her passes or a gift certificate for an event in or near San Diego.
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Yashmak Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:38:27am |
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Fat Jolly Penguin Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:38:32am |
re: #351 jwb7605
Before Charles upgraded his server and during several election open threads, 1000+ was enough to hang things up nicely.
After the upgrade, I've seen 800+ post threads behave like the first hundred did a while back (relatively speedy).
Are you using IE? It'll do that. Firefox is much faster.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:38:37am |
Former Conservative cabinet minister Michael Portillo:
Britain has lost the stomach for a fight
The extent of Britain’s fiasco has been masked by the media’s relief that we are at last leaving Iraq. Those who have been urging Britain to quit are not in a strong position to criticise the government’s lack of staying power. Reporting of Basra has mainly focused on British casualties and the prospect for withdrawal. The British media and public have shown scant regard for our failure to protect Iraqis, so the British nation, not just its government, has attracted distrust. We should reflect on what sort of country we have become. We may enjoy patronising Americans but they demonstrate a fibre that we now lack.The United States will have drawn its conclusions about our reliability in future and British policy-makers, too, will need to recognise that we lack the troops, wealth and stomach for anything more than the briefest conflict.
Not good.
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:38:46am |
re: #351 jwb7605
Before Charles upgraded his server and during several election open threads, 1000+ was enough to hang things up nicely.
After the upgrade, I've seen 800+ post threads behave like the first hundred did a while back (relatively speedy).
with cable and Safari my machine is unstoppable...with CJ a year ago is a long time ago...he's a ruthless tinkerer and upgrader...
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Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:38:54am |
re: #360 Dianna
You mean little Johnny Walker Lind.
Thanks. I did mean him and I didn't feel like googling.
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sngnsgt Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:39:35am |
re: #238 spidly
About 6 inches of Globe-uh-Warmin has fallen here in the past two hours.
Thanks Al. /
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Boondocksaint Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:39:37am |
Saudi court tells girl aged EIGHT she cannot divorce husband who is 50 years her senior
this is just gross...
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Harry Tuttle Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:40:08am |
It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.
Ayn Rand
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DistantThunder Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:40:13am |
re: #368 Boondocksaint
Saudi court tells girl aged EIGHT she cannot divorce husband who is 50 years her senior
this is just gross...
I hope he has the decency to shave before he rapes her/sarc.
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albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:40:24am |
re: #353 DistantThunder
I think Pres. Bush has seen too many wounded soldiers and devastated families to ever pardon a member of the source of the problem.
he needs to get off his ass and take care of those Border Patrol guys...that pisses me...
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jwb7605 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:40:54am |
re: #363 Fat Jolly Penguin
Are you using IE? It'll do that. Firefox is much faster.
IE
Charles, delete showc's post. He's using bad language. Hate speech!
(I've used FireFox since 1.0-something).
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lawhawk Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:41:06am |
re: #343 Desert Dog
It was a federal trial, but keep in mind that the Fort Dix terrorists were caught domestically, using traditional law enforcement techniques and evidenciary rules, which cannot and should never apply to someone captured on a battlefield. After all, who is going to Mirandize a terrorist who is fighting US forces with RPGs and AK gunfire and happens to get himself captured by US forces in some godforsaken crapistan. How exactly does the Federal Rules of Evidence apply in that situation. It shouldn't. It can't. Yet, that's the direction that the far left wants to go.
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Dianna Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:41:12am |
re: #366 Silhouette
Thanks. I did mean him and I didn't feel like googling.
It's OK. Another spoiled kid who was playing to an excited audience of one, never really believing there would be consequences. This is at least partly because he doesn't believe any people are real except him.
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DistantThunder Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:41:15am |
re: #369 Harry Tuttle
It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.
Ayn Rand
Often self- sacrifice is really enlightened self-interest, but lack of experience masks that point.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:41:27am |
re: #326 Desert Dog
This just in: Possibly the most important scientific discovery since gravity!
The Orgasmatron?
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DistantThunder Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:42:07am |
re: #373 lawhawk
It was a federal trial, but keep in mind that the Fort Dix terrorists were caught domestically, using traditional law enforcement techniques and evidenciary rules, which cannot and should never apply to someone captured on a battlefield. After all, who is going to Mirandize a terrorist who is fighting US forces with RPGs and AK gunfire and happens to get himself captured by US forces in some godforsaken crapistan. How exactly does the Federal Rules of Evidence apply in that situation. It shouldn't. It can't. Yet, that's the direction that the far left wants to go.
Crapistan - exactly - lol.
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jwb7605 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:42:16am |
re: #372 jwb7605
IE
Charles, delete showc's post. He's using bad language. Hate speech!(I've used FireFox since 1.0-something).
make that Fat Jolly Penguin!:
re: #363 Fat Jolly Penguin
Are you using IE? It'll do that. Firefox is much faster.
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The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:42:57am |
re: #372 jwb7605
IE
Charles, delete showc's post. He's using bad language. Hate speech!(I've used FireFox since 1.0-something).
Firefox 3 is fast and I love it at home..
There is no snap-in the allow FF# to run Oracle 11i..
At work Firefox you are dead to me.
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DistantThunder Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:43:17am |
re: #374 Dianna
It's OK. Another spoiled kid who was playing to an excited audience of one, never really believing there would be consequences. This is at least partly because he doesn't believe any people are real except him.
I tell my children - All the rules apply to you. They are all turning out pretty well.
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doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:43:23am |
re: #368 Boondocksaint
Saudi court tells girl aged EIGHT she cannot divorce husband who is 50 years her senior
this is just gross...
This is not gross, this is the true face of Islam, a religion founded by a pedophile a murderer liar and thief.
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Eowyn2 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:43:50am |
re: #348 Silhouette
AQ Adam's parents, the guy who wanted to kill us in the name of Islam because many of us are Christians, asked Bush for a pardon because it would be the Christian thing to do.
The Israelis have been giving those kinds of pardons for years. See how far it got them?
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Look At My New Grandbaby! Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:44:03am |
re: #280 shoeless
The site is completely different now...
Yeah, it's a big blank screen.
The lizard is still showing up on the browser tab as the site icon.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:44:13am |
re: #372 jwb7605
IE
Charles, delete showc's post. He's using bad language. Hate speech!(I've used FireFox since 1.0-something).
LOL!
re: #379 jwb7605
make that Fat Jolly Penguin!:
re: #363 Fat Jolly PenguinAre you using IE? It'll do that. Firefox is much faster.
I wouldn't know what it is then. Sorry...
| 386 |
LGoPs Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:44:21am |
re: #373 lawhawk
It was a federal trial, but keep in mind that the Fort Dix terrorists were caught domestically, using traditional law enforcement techniques and evidenciary rules, which cannot and should never apply to someone captured on a battlefield. After all, who is going to Mirandize a terrorist who is fighting US forces with RPGs and AK gunfire and happens to get himself captured by US forces in some godforsaken crapistan. How exactly does the Federal Rules of Evidence apply in that situation. It shouldn't. It can't. Yet, that's the direction that the far left wants to go.
If this kind of lunacy were enacted I think the predictable outcome would be a whole lot less prisoners taken...
| 387 |
lifeofthemind Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:44:30am |
re: #336 albusteve
I was wrong...I do remember a night we went over 4k...at the time I thought it was the longest ever
I had a night like that once, hard to remember details, think there was an Amway salesman.
| 388 |
Desert Dog Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:45:24am |
re: #373 lawhawk
I agree, it will be a circus if they take these scumbags into court like that.
| 389 |
DaddyG Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:45:42am |
re: #348 Silhouette
AQ Adam's parents, the guy who wanted to kill us in the name of Islam because many of us are Christians, asked Bush for a pardon because it would be the Christian thing to do.
Perhaps if Johnny Jihad Lind's parents had taught their son some of that mercy ethic they are so hoping to appeal to - than they wouldn't have to be appealing in the first place.
| 390 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:45:46am |
re: #369 Harry Tuttle
It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.
Ayn Rand
Wild overstatement, as is often the case with Ms. Rand.
E.g., our troops sacrifice their personal safety and comfort on our behalf, and they do so as free citizens making a moral choice, not as "slaves".
| 391 |
albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:45:54am |
re: #387 lifeofthemind
I had a night like that once, hard to remember details, think there was an Amway salesman.
another town...another story
| 392 |
jwb7605 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:46:09am |
re: #380 HoosierHoops
Firefox 3 is fast and I love it at home..
There is no snap-in the allow FF# to run Oracle 11i..
At work Firefox you are dead to me.
I wasn't aware that a browser did database stuff.
I thought that was server-side tools.
But, as you may have noticed, I'm not the sharpest knife in the array today.
| 393 |
Ben Hur Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:46:15am |
Obama Planning to Scrap Shuttle Replacement, Says NASA
President-Elect Obama's transition team is planning to scrap NASA's Ares program, the successor to the Space Shuttle, say NASA advisors. The transition team is demanding deep cuts from the agency, and is investigating whether old military rockets such as the Delta IV and Atlas V could be used in place of Ares.
NASA plans a permanent moon base by 2020, followed by a manned mission to Mars; plans which the agency says require Ares.
The Space Shuttle is due to make its last flight in 2010. Without a replacement, NASA may be without a manned space capability entirely, for the first time since the 1960s, a gap that NASA says would destroy the U.S.'s primacy in space technology.
Prior news reports have hinted at a great deal of tension between Obama's team and NASA, a report that NASA Administrator Michael Griffon has denied.
On the campaign trail, Obama blew both hot and cold on plans for NASA's budget. In the NASA-friendly states of Texas and Florida, he promised to expand NASA's budget by more than 10%. In other states, however, he promised cuts and delays to the agency, in order to help fund his education policies.
Lori Garver, a space policy advisor for Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, was selected by Obama to lead the NASA review transition team. Despite being criticized for her lack of an engineering or scientific background, Garver has been called a favorite to be the next NASA Administrator.
Ares program manager Steve Cook says that, with Ares due for its first test flight next summer, halting the program now would be an expensive mistake. "We would be really stepping backwards" by opting for a different launch platform.
Space Historian Andrew Chaikin said that, "Obama's first priority for NASA should be to get the Shuttle's replacement on track".
But...but...but...new JFK...Obamalot...Progress...
You've got to love the reaction of this comment poster to someone hoping he won't cut military spending as well:
why? you afraid of mexico, or even, LOL.. Canada.. invading us any time soon?
| 394 |
albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:46:51am |
re: #389 DaddyG
Perhaps if Johnny Jihad Lind's parents had taught their son some of that mercy ethic they are so hoping to appeal to - than they wouldn't have to be appealing in the first place.
clearly treason...he's very fortunate
| 395 |
LGoPs Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:47:38am |
re: #373 lawhawk
It was a federal trial, but keep in mind that the Fort Dix terrorists were caught domestically, using traditional law enforcement techniques and evidenciary rules, which cannot and should never apply to someone captured on a battlefield. After all, who is going to Mirandize a terrorist who is fighting US forces with RPGs and AK gunfire and happens to get himself captured by US forces in some godforsaken crapistan. How exactly does the Federal Rules of Evidence apply in that situation. It shouldn't. It can't. Yet, that's the direction that the far left wants to go.
A simple modification to the Miranda rules would fix the conundrum...'You have the right to remain eternally silent'...
| 396 |
sffilk Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:47:43am |
I just checked, and there's nothing on the website, just a white screen...?
| 397 |
Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:48:01am |
re: #383 Eowyn2
The Israelis have been giving those kinds of pardons for years. See how far it got them?
Everytime I read one of those "Israel releases 250 prisoners" headlines, my heart breaks.
| 398 |
albusteve Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:48:33am |
re: #396 sffilk
I just checked, and there's nothing on the website, just a white screen...?
Lizarditis will do that sometimes
| 399 |
Harry Tuttle Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:49:00am |
re: #390 Occasional Reader
Wild overstatement, as is often the case with Ms. Rand.
E.g., our troops sacrifice their personal safety and comfort on our behalf, and they do so as free citizens making a moral choice, not as "slaves".
Isn't that called service for a reason OR?
| 400 |
The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:49:22am |
re: #392 jwb7605
I wasn't aware that a browser did database stuff.
I thought that was server-side tools.But, as you may have noticed, I'm not the sharpest knife in the array today.
You're ok...Ever since Oracle moved past 10.7 It's Databases run from Browsers. Of course all the behind Scenes is run on UNIX boxes.
| 401 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:50:26am |
re: #356 Harry Tuttle
Where did the looters put all your money?
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
"Where'd the bailout money go? Shhh, it's a secret
Email this StoryDec 22, 9:52 AM (ET)
By MATT APUZZO
WASHINGTON (AP) - It's something any bank would demand to know before handing out a loan: Where's the money going?
But after receiving billions in aid from U.S. taxpayers, the nation's largest banks say they can't track exactly how they're spending the money or they simply refuse to discuss it.
"We've lent some of it. We've not lent some of it. We've not given any accounting of, 'Here's how we're doing it,'" said Thomas Kelly, a spokesman for JPMorgan Chase, which received $25 billion in emergency bailout money. "We have not disclosed that to the public. We're declining to."
The Associated Press contacted 21 banks that received at least $1 billion in government money and asked four questions: How much has been spent? What was it spent on? How much is being held in savings, and what's the plan for the rest?
None of the banks provided specific answers."
Bend over lizards.
I saw this earlier. If you don't believe in the Plutocracy, then you are blind.
| 402 |
Silhouette Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:50:44am |
re: #393 Ben Hur
Bye Bye moon and stars and advancement of mankind. We've got to take a break and regress to socialism for awhile.
| 403 |
nyc redneck Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:51:29am |
re: #329 lawhawk
So, the Fort Dix terror suspects are now convicted terrorists. The jury found them not guilty of attempted murder, but found them guilty of conspiracy. Max sentences? Life in prison.
And to think that it was the result of an alert Circuit City store clerk who tipped off law enforcement to these terrorists.
if you see something, say something.
(has cair harassed the clerk?)
| 404 |
Eowyn2 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:51:34am |
re: #364 Occasional Reader
Former Conservative cabinet minister Michael Portillo:
Britain has lost the stomach for a fight
Not good.
its cyclical. remember chamberlain. how he was cheered and feted. NOW remember Dunkirk et al.
Great Britain may be old and tired, but it isnt dead yet.
| 406 |
The Hoopster Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:52:15am |
re: #404 Eowyn2
its cyclical. remember chamberlain. how he was cheered and feted. NOW remember Dunkirk et al.
Great Britain may be old and tired, but it isnt dead yet.
It may not be dead.. But it sure smells funny
| 407 |
doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:52:56am |
re: #401 Walter L. Newton
I saw this earlier. If you don't believe in the Plutocracy, then you are blind.
This is no Plutocracy, this is a Crookocracy...
| 408 |
jwb7605 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:53:14am |
re: #402 Silhouette
Bye Bye moon and stars and advancement of mankind. We've got to take a break and regress to socialism for awhile.
I cannot believe Obama could -- even with his mass hypnotic ability -- justify killing the space program in essence.
Lotsa unbelievable things have in fact occurred recently, though ...
| 409 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:53:32am |
re: #399 Harry Tuttle
Isn't that called service for a reason OR?
Of course it is. But it's hysterical leap from there, to talk of "slaves" and "masters".
| 410 |
Harry Tuttle Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:53:43am |
re: #401 Walter L. Newton
I saw this earlier. If you don't believe in the Plutocracy, then you are blind.
If 750000000 were drops of water it would be 8256 gallons of water.
There is 1.6 gallons in a toilet flush.
Thats around 5500 flushes.
| 411 |
lifeofthemind Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:54:23am |
re: #393 Ben Hur
why? you afraid of mexico, or even, LOL.. Canada.. invading us any time soon?
1) They already are.
2) The left that are trying a coup there are capable of anything.
| 412 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:55:09am |
re: #405 Iron Fist
They won't even fight if they are invaded nowadays.
The invading troops would instantly qualify for "refugee" status under UK law, so what would be the point of fighting?
| 413 |
Harry Tuttle Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:55:09am |
re: #409 Occasional Reader
Of course it is. But it's hysterical leap from there, to talk of "slaves" and "masters".
Hardly, liberty and private property are the same thing.
| 414 |
Eowyn2 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:57:48am |
re: #373 lawhawk
It was a federal trial, but keep in mind that the Fort Dix terrorists were caught domestically, using traditional law enforcement techniques and evidenciary rules, which cannot and should never apply to someone captured on a battlefield. After all, who is going to Mirandize a terrorist who is fighting US forces with RPGs and AK gunfire and happens to get himself captured by US forces in some godforsaken crapistan. How exactly does the Federal Rules of Evidence apply in that situation. It shouldn't. It can't. Yet, that's the direction that the far left wants to go.
Is Crapistan a legal term?
| 415 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:58:28am |
re: #413 Harry Tuttle
Hardly, liberty and private property are the same thing.
Huh? So you're saying that our troops are slaves?
| 416 |
Empire1 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:58:39am |
re: #266 Dianna
Are you thinking of Esther Friesner? She edited the "Chicks" series, but I'm not familiar with any of her solo fiction.
| 417 |
Walter L. Newton Mon, Dec 22, 2008 12:01:14pm |
re: #407 doriangrey
This is no Plutocracy, this is a Crookocracy...
Sorry, yes it is. The politicians are the kleptocracy. Big money is the plutocracy which is pulling the strings.
| 418 |
Harry Tuttle Mon, Dec 22, 2008 12:03:27pm |
re: #415 Occasional Reader
Huh? So you're saying that our troops are slaves?
Of course not. You brought up the troops OR.
| 419 |
Andopolis Mon, Dec 22, 2008 12:05:19pm |
I'll hijack some of the excuses I've heard from music downloaders...
"I'm fighting corporate greed"
"why should I pay for a whole site if I only like one logo on it?"
"they don't pay the artists enough for their work, so I'm helping them by paying nothing for it"
and my favorite...
"the logos want to be free"
| 420 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Dec 22, 2008 12:11:14pm |
re: #418 Harry Tuttle
Of course not. You brought up the troops OR.
You posted a quote equating "service" to slavery.
I asked if that applied to the troops.
You asked rhetorically "isn't that called service for a reason?"
And now you take the odd dodge of saying "you brought up the troops".
So, care to explain your "service for a reason" remark?
| 422 |
Harry Tuttle Mon, Dec 22, 2008 12:16:06pm |
re: #420 Occasional Reader
You posted a quote equating "service" to slavery.
I asked if that applied to the troops.
You asked rhetorically "isn't that called service for a reason?"
And now you take the odd dodge of saying "you brought up the troops".
So, care to explain your "service for a reason" remark?
The quote is contrasting service and the call of others demanding your sacrifice. Perhaps you missed that.
Don't put words in my mouth.
| 423 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Dec 22, 2008 12:26:00pm |
re: #422 Harry Tuttle
The quote is contrasting service and the call of others demanding your sacrifice. Perhaps you missed that.
Don't put words in my mouth.
Quote:
where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served.
"Contrasting" those two things, is it? Sure about that?
(And by the way, my initial observation was that our troops voluntarily sacrifice on our behalf. If you were in agreement, you had a rather... indirect way of expressing it, let's say.)
| 424 |
Harry Tuttle Mon, Dec 22, 2008 12:26:22pm |
re: #420 Occasional Reader
You posted a quote equating "service" to slavery.
I asked if that applied to the troops.
You asked rhetorically "isn't that called service for a reason?"
And now you take the odd dodge of saying "you brought up the troops".
So, care to explain your "service for a reason" remark?
And BTW what did you call Ayn Rand? A Wild Overstater?
Please look here:
[Link: seekingalpha.com...]
* Marshall Plan: $12.7 billion; inflation adjusted $115.3 billion
* Louisiana Purchase: $15 million; inflation adjusted $217 billion
* Race to the Moon: $36.4 billion; inflation adjusted $237 billion
* S&L Crisis: $153 billion; inflation adjusted $256 billion
* Korean War: $54 billion; inflation adjusted $454 billion
* The New Deal: $32 billion (est); inflation adjust $500 billion (est)
* Invasion of Iraq: $551 billion; Inflation adjusted $597 billion
* Vietnam War: $111 billion; inflation adjusted $698 billion
* NASA: $416.7 billion; inflation adjusted $851.2 billionData from James Bianco
That gives us a grand total of $3.92 trillion. I wouldn’t blink because we are going to pass that number with the bailout costs before you know it. Bianco reports that the only event that came close to the costs of the bailout up to this point is World War II. WWII cost $288 billion. Adjusting the numbers for inflation and we’re looking at $3.6 trillion. Still, if you add the cost of WWII and the rest of the above mentioned fiscal expenditures and it falls short of the $8.5 trillion number stated by SFGate.
Dear reader, all said and done, the bailout of the U.S. financial system will have cost more than two times the list of the greatest expenditures in the history of our nation. What folks don’t realize is that WE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS. The costs will be years and possibly decades of economic stresses. Welcome to freaking Japan. Short government bonds anyone?
Anyone feeling wild?
Anyone overstating then?
Yea, must be me and the other freaks who want to see some accountability and reason. That's way too much to ask for.
| 425 |
Harry Tuttle Mon, Dec 22, 2008 12:35:00pm |
re: #423 Occasional Reader
"Contrasting" those two things, is it? Sure about that?
(And by the way, my initial observation was that our troops voluntarily sacrifice on our behalf. If you were in agreement, you had a rather... indirect way of expressing it, let's say.)
Well I read it as a contrast but ok fine it's not.
I was certainly not trying to equate the service of the military as slavery, you brought that up.
So yea, forget it let's just all bend over and try and enjoy it.
| 426 |
Occasional Reader Mon, Dec 22, 2008 12:39:33pm |
re: #425 Harry Tuttle
I was certainly not trying to equate the service of the military as slavery, you brought that up.
Uh, yeah, I "brought it up" to refute it. Slight distinction there.
| 427 |
Electron Shuffler Mon, Dec 22, 2008 12:48:19pm |
Empty page returned at 15:45 Eastern DST.
/Oops, did we break something?
| 428 |
Throbert McGee Mon, Dec 22, 2008 12:58:47pm |
HT and OR, don't make me slap both of you in the face with my cock.
I love Ayn Rand -- at a distance, that is -- but I hate to see lizards getting in a fight over a quote from a dame who was known to bully her disciples over the point that blue-green was a color particularly conducive to rational thinking.
| 430 |
Mauser Mon, Dec 22, 2008 1:55:19pm |
re: #154 Quilly Mammoth
If you have a blog and you get those annoying pingbacks of text advertising some product? That's what scumbag Lessnau sells, or rather "brokers", as well as link ads that people deliberately put on their blogs.
Ah, that explains his page expressing concern over a "Paid Link Detector".
| 431 |
Viking6 Mon, Dec 22, 2008 1:55:43pm |
re: #119 x-wing
check out the politics. it would appear he is an obamite. Figures.
| 432 |
notutopia Mon, Dec 22, 2008 1:56:36pm |
[Link: www.lessnau.com...]
Going Viral
This is from the thief's site...(which is now crashed)
I was trying to sleep last night and one of my nagging website ideas popped in my head. I tossed and turned as I thought about the details of how it would work, half awake, half asleep more information flowed into my brain. Finally, I got up and started writing in my idea notebook.
I’ve wanted to come up with a social media network that is unique and simple enough to excite in the masses and take off with a small kick start. Well, I believe this is the one: The idea is so simple it is almost stupid (kind of like Twitter). The best part is...
/
...I can steal logos and articles from other web sites and cut and paste them...and make everyone think I am a
genius!
/He could use some web building consultation Charles.
Jerk.
| 433 |
Red Sea Desjardini Tang Mon, Dec 22, 2008 1:57:40pm |
Coming in late, I don't quite understand this thread. I appreciate that someone swiped a logo when they shouldn't, but what is the spammer reference to?
The site is still up; it is just the home page and lounge that is gone. But what I see there, at a quick glance, seems to be just techie chat on various subjects.
try [Link: www.lessnau.com...]
instead of just [Link: www.lessnau.com...]
| 434 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Dec 22, 2008 2:01:35pm |
re: #433 Naso Tang
Coming in late, I don't quite understand this thread. I appreciate that someone swiped a logo when they shouldn't, but what is the spammer reference to?
The site is still up; it is just the home page and lounge that is gone. But what I see there, at a quick glance, seems to be just techie chat on various subjects.
try [Link: www.lessnau.com...]
instead of just [Link: www.lessnau.com...]
Dave at Israellycool discovered them because they were "trackback spamming" ... using a bot that says it was referred by their site. These kinds of bots are real pests.
| 435 |
doriangrey Mon, Dec 22, 2008 2:03:10pm |
re: #434 Charles
Dave at Israellycool discovered them because they were "referrer spamming" ... using a bot that says it was referred by their site. These kinds of bots are real pests.
And the Lizard King came down on his sorry ass like Mount Everest... ;)
| 437 |
WarBicycle Mon, Dec 22, 2008 2:22:30pm |
I sent an email advising they should discontinue using the graphic and they responded with an Error 403: Forbidden.
| 438 |
Joe Schmoe Mon, Dec 22, 2008 2:45:05pm |
re: #437 WarBicycle
I sent an email advising they should discontinue using the graphic and they responded with an Error 403: Forbidden.
That means you are forbidden to tell them that. ; )
| 439 |
Poli_wog Mon, Dec 22, 2008 2:54:49pm |
re: #29 Sharmuta
I don't understand what this site has to do with lizards. (I love being a hatchling though!)
| 440 |
FamHistoryGuy Mon, Dec 22, 2008 3:18:18pm |
re: #438 Joe Schmoe
Links to that site now get a 403 Forbidden access.
| 441 |
mashiki Mon, Dec 22, 2008 3:32:52pm |
Looks like they're blocking redirects from LGF. However if you use the link Charles used above http://www.lessnau.com/index in a new window you'll get kicked to a 404 page, from there you can use their own internal linking to browse the site.
| 443 |
danrudy Mon, Dec 22, 2008 5:55:24pm |
re: #434 Charles
Charles,
My wife is a Trademark/Copyright Lawyer with a major firm. She would be happy to do pro Bono work on behalf of LGF if you needed advice on this type of matter.
Dan
| 444 |
GT Charlie Mon, Dec 22, 2008 6:16:41pm |
Just like others I've found that the site is still there (they're blocking redirects). So what's the link to the Lizard Lounge graphic?
Charlie
| 445 |
Deseeded Mon, Dec 22, 2008 6:19:47pm |
Bwahahaha! Thanks for all the responses! I'd tell you what deseeded originally meant, but I'm uncomfortably laughing/shuddering at the thought of gettin' the jibblies scissored.
| 446 |
Justacanuck Mon, Dec 22, 2008 8:50:14pm |
Ha! What an asshat. Now he's blocking anyone inbound from an LGF link - 403 access denied. Stupid assclown must think we're all amateurs here and don't understand what is happening. As others have noted, blipping onto his lame-o site directly works fine.
Whatcha gonna do assclown? Block all those direct inbound IPs by hand for the next few days? How about you just make yourself a coffee and enjoy what will soon become your personal intranet instead.
Memo to assclown: post an apology to Charles on your site and we'll forget the whole thing. Maybe.
| 447 |
mashiki Mon, Dec 22, 2008 9:23:08pm |
re: #439 Poli_wog
I don't understand what this site has to do with lizards. (I love being a hatchling though!)
If you have to ask...*muraghalsh*
All hail Charles and the Great Lizardoid Army!
| 448 |
Rides A Pale Horse Mon, Dec 22, 2008 9:48:16pm |
Looks like #441 Mashikis link works fine, as he said in a different window. I opened another Firefox page, entered the link and voila! I left a message.
He's probably sitting in a corner sucking his thumb and thinkin'
"What the hell was I thinking?"
| 449 |
Rides A Pale Horse Mon, Dec 22, 2008 9:55:08pm |
FYI I just Googled "LGF Lizard Lounge" and came up with this page.
[Link: images.google.com...]
Let me know if the link fails.
| 450 |
israellycool Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:09:38am |
To all of you asking for a link to the stolen Lizard graphic, I had posted a screenshot in my post mentioned in Charles' post. Or you can click here.
It looks like he has taken down the offending graphic and actually redesigned his entire site, which is only accessible by directly typing in the URL. An apology would be a good start.
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