. Got one Tatar, three Dukas and a Shnewer.

Thank you, Santa.

Yeah for the American legal system. Now let's keep them locked away.

They weren't given the death penalty, if we cant execute bastards like this then we are really going to lose.

Just another thought--someone I loved, but who had had their head stuffed full of liberal fluff, once said to me, in all seriousness, that intolerance was the greatest sin.

I disagree. I can think of a lot worse. Blowing up soldiers, children, old ladies, for example...

OK, now max sentence.

Life. The only possible sentence.

which was discovered when one of the jihadis tried to have a terror training videotape transferred to DVD at a video store

New Jersey jihadis; I hereby dub thee, "Dirka Dirk Dumb" and "Dirka Dirka Dumber".

(Sung to the tune of Toot, Toot, Tootsie Goodbye – apologies to Al Jolson)

Terr-or, Terrorist goodbye,
Terr-or, Terrorist, don't cry.
You should have stuck to taxis and mini-marts
Not splodeydoping or lame terrorist plots
You’ve got no where to go
but to Guantanamo.
So tuck your tail,
your plans have failed,
if you received this verdict
then your rotting in jail.
Terr-or, Terrorist goodbye,
Terr-or, Terrorist, don't cry!

Bill Ayers should be in jail right next to them.

re: #3 doriangrey

Special case here to deny them "martyrdom" and hand them an ignominious rotting; it is better strategy; no inspiration granted to their cohorts outside then.

Convicted were: Jordanian-born cab driver Mohamad Shnewer; Turkish-born convenience store clerk Serdar Tatar; and brothers Dritan, Eljvir and Shain Duka, ethnic Albanians from the former Yugoslavia

Nice way to show your gratitude, Eljvir and Shain.

re: #9 Racer X

Will be a top comment, I think.

I bet this was because we elected The One. God bless that Kinko's worker.

re: #10 Ojoe

Special case here to deny them "martyrdom" and hand them an ignominious rotting; it is better strategy; no inspiration granted to their cohorts outside then.

Screw that, let them be martyrs.

Lock the cell door and toss the key.

re: #4 EmmmieG

In some instances tolerance is a big sin.

As lawhawk said on the previous thread, we owe this to an observant Circuit City clerk who did the right thing. I think the average alert citizen is our best defense against terror on U.S. soil. The "authorities" are so brainwashed by political correctness, they wouldn't know a threat if it slapped them in the face.

anyone know what the rap is for these convictions...

re: #14 doriangrey

Screw that, let them be martyrs.

I say take them to the shore and let them swim home.

re: #6 capecoddah

Life. The only possible sentence.

With health care and a pension!

/ BO- The 0ne

Article about similarities of terrorist organisations. It brings nothing new about subject but thought I'd post it just in case anybody was interested :

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

"There is a huge gulf between the violent militants Eta and those belonging to radical Muslim groups in their methods and aims.

Eta's attacks, though murderous, kill on nothing like the scale of many Islamic militant attacks. Eta's attacks are carefully calibrated expressions of power and part of a sometimes chaotic but nonetheless coherent ideologically based political programme with evident and consistently explained, if evolving, aims. They do not involve the suicide of participants, either – rather the opposite. Eta also has a well-organised political wing, espousing what is purported to be a non-violent democratic strategy that acts in concert with those practising violence.

Yet in terms of how extremist movements work on the ground, there are some broad similarities that are worth noting if only to throw the deep differences into relief. Many of these are common to all sorts of radical groups, violent or not, as well as sects and similar organisations.

First, there is a broad cultural and historical hinterland. The militants do not function in isolation but are embedded within social, political or cultural activism of a broad movement. They are a minority and, in many ways, see themselves as an elite vanguard, revolutionary or religious. For Eta, this hinterland is the Basque National Liberation Movement.

Second, there is the role played by small-group dynamics. One of the most extraordinary episodes in Islamic militancy of recent years involved the effective mass suicide of almost an entire football team in a completely hopeless attack on army and police positions in southern Thailand. In the Basque country, many militants grew up together, playing football or mountaineering.

Personal networks are hugely important in recruiting. Islamic militant cells, especially in Europe, have often used outdoor adventure activities to bring otherwise disparate individuals together. As one British security source said last year: "That moment when someone takes someone else's rucksack because they are exhausted is worth a decade of indoctrination in terms of preparing a group for violent action."

Third, although Eta sympathisers insist there is no religious connotation to the images of dead or imprisoned militants in the nationalist bars, they comprise nonetheless a pantheon of "martyrs'" Their stories – or their "sacrifice" – not only inspires aspirant militants with the prospect of joining these hallowed ranks in the event of capture or death but also legitimises "the struggle" by providing evidence of what is seen as the violent repression of the faceless enemy, the Spanish state.

There is also the sense of lives given in a defensive struggle against an overwhelming faceless force, which not only justifies the continuing fight but dehumanises the enemy. Despite Eta's secular nature, the strong local Catholic traditions with its own martyrs may have some influence here, too – as they did in Ireland.

Another point common to many militant groups is a particularly style of dressing. Militant Islamic groups have evolved – especially in the west – a form of "jihadi chic" which has nothing much to do with local dress in the Arab world, south Asia or the far east and a lot to do with a globalised idea of what an Islamic militant should look like..."

For this they should have been charged with treason,executed, cremated and their ashes mixed with pig fat and then those dropped in the ocean.

re: #7 Occasional Reader

New Jersey jihadis; I hereby dub thee, "Dirka Dirk Dumb" and "Dirka Dirka Dumber".

Shouldn't it be Duka Duka Dumb and Duka Duka Dumber?

re: #12 Ojoe

Will be a top comment, I think.

Ayers is guilty - by his own admission - of far worse.

re: #22 Wilderstad

I would not disperse them so widely.

I think they should do their time next to the flaming gay ward, where they can learn all about queer culture. They'll learn to appreciate humanity in a whole new way...

Someone read #21 for me and give me the high points?

re: #24 Racer X

Well he needed a judicially provided rope IMHO but too late now.

re: #25 Ojoe

I would not disperse them so widely.

Quibbler. /s

re: #9 Racer X

Bill Ayers should be in jail right next to them.

He was only in charge of a conspiracy to kill soldiers at Ft. Dix. It's completely different.

/

re: #11 Occasional Reader

Nice way to show your gratitude, Eljvir and Shain.

Anything like Larry, his brother Darrell, and his other brother, Darrell?

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Someone read #21 for me and give me the high points?

Dirka Drika Drika!

Islamic Jihad!

They weren't discovered at a video store. It was a Circuit City store clerk, Robert Morgenstern, who thought the video information should be passed on to law enforcement, which opened the investigation.

re: #29 Wilderstad

Then the oceans would be sacred, bla bla bla.

Sorry Cagney. Just a "Cliff's Notes" kind of guy.

re: #19 Ford_Prefect

I say take them to the shore and let them swim home.

Ever see Red Dragon? Where Hannibal Lector feeds the guy in the wheelchair to the hogs?

re: #36 doriangrey

Ever see Red Dragon? Where Hannibal Lector feeds the guy in the wheelchair to the hogs?

Oh, you mean the one that was having Hannibal fed to the hogs? Totally on Dr. Lector's side on that one.

To the clerk at the Video service, a big THANK YOU for taking the evidence to the cops. If not for him, they would have carried out the plot.

How about life without halal meals, korans, prayer rugs & visiting Imams?
How about keeping themk away from young thugs, so that they do not convert them to Islam(jihad)?

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, you mean the one that was having Hannibal fed to the hogs? Totally on Dr. Lector's side on that one.

Yup, and that's exactly how we should execute Muslim Terrorists, deny them any reward from Allah for their actions.

re: #41 opnion

Solitary lockup.

re: #3 doriangrey

Why make martyrs out of them? This is, I think, less dignifying.

Now check all there friends relatives and associates to see who is not a citizen, who is sponsoring others for visas, and where their bank accounts and phones lead to.

Bush Insider Who Planned To Tell All Killed In Plane Crash

Michael Connell, the Bush IT expert who has been directly implicated in the rigging of George Bush’s 2000 and 2004 elections, was killed last night when his single engine plane crashed three miles short of the Akron airport. Velvet Revolution (“VR”), a non-profit that has been investigating Mr. Connell’s activities for the past two years, can now reveal that a person close to Mr. Connell More..has recently been discussing with a VR investigator how to tell all about his work for George Bush. Mr. Connell told a close associate that he was afraid that the George Bush and Dick Cheney would “throw [him] under the bus.”

A tipster close to the McCain campaign disclosed to VR in July that Mr. Connell’s life was in jeopardy and that Karl Rove had threatened him and his wife, Heather. VR’s attorney, Cliff Arnebeck, notified the United States Attorney General , Ohio law enforcement and the federal court about these threats and insisted that Mr. Connell be placed in protective custody. VR also told a close associate of Mr. Connell’s not to fly his plane because of another tip that the plane could be sabatoged. Mr. Connell, a very experienced pilot, has had to abandon at least two flights in the past two months because of suspicious problems with his plane. On December 18, 2008, Mr. Connell flew to a small airport outside of Washington DC to meet some people. It was on his return flight the next day that he crashed.

On October 31, Mr. Connell appeared before a federal judge in Ohio after being subpoenaed in a federal lawsuit investigating the rigging of the 2004 election under the direction of Karl Rove. The judge ordered Mr. Connell to testify under oath at a deposition on November 3rd, the day before the presidential election. Velvet Revolution received confidential information that the White House was extremely concerned about Mr. Connell talking about his illegal work for the White House and two Bush/Cheney 04 attorneys were dispatched to represent him.

An associate of Mr. Connell’s told VR that Mr. Connell was involved with the destruction of the White House emails and the setting up of the off-grid White House email system.

Mr. Connell handled all of John McCain’s computer work in the recent presidential campaign. VR has received direct evidence that the McCain campaign kept abreast of the legal developments against Mr. Connell by reading the VR dedicated website, [Link: www.rovecybergate.com...]

Guys.

They're on to us.

Password: Birds fly east in the winter.

See you at the rendez-vous point.

Godspeed.

Wonder if AP could be more sympathetic to the terrorists?

My repost from the last thread -

I am not prone to emotionality, but I find myself very emotional about the Fort Dix convictions of these terrorist predators. I have served as a USO volunteer for several years feeding the troops as they leave for the "sandbox" through McGuire Airforce base and upon their arrival back through Fort Dix.

They arrive by the hundreds covered in sand, faces weary, carrying their weapons. Many of them are older, reservists, dentists, doctors, engineers teachers; some are young enough to be my own children. I especially marvel at the young blonde-haired girls who would look more at home on a sunny beach than in camo - and carrying a weapon almost 1/2 their size.

Thank God for President Bush and VP Cheney and their unrelenting commitment to keeping us safe. God bless the young clerk who said after viewing the terrorists video, "WTF" and then had the courage to act like a REAL AMERICAN and get involved although doing so would risk his safety.

This is so damn close to home - I'm in a bit of shock to tell the truth. And a special FU to Bill Ayers whose team of geniuses also attempted to bomb a dance at Fort Dix - he rightly belongs in prison, too.

good news

re: #45 lifeofthemind

their

re: #48 Iron Fist

Chi tace consenta

Who is silent consents.

re: #36 doriangrey

Ever see Red Dragon? Where Hannibal Lector feeds the guy in the wheelchair to the hogs?

Oh wait, wasn't that Hannibal?

With this Made up, yet beautiful opera scene?

re: #4 EmmmieG

Just another thought--someone I loved, but who had had their head stuffed full of liberal fluff, once said to me, in all seriousness, that intolerance was the greatest sin.

I disagree. I can think of a lot worse. Blowing up soldiers, children, old ladies, for example...

Amen to that, but even "tolerance" suggests you are in some kind of superior position from which you decide who and what to tolerate, the whole idea is elitist.

re: #22 Wilderstad

On second thought, that might not be a bad idea.

Ya know, I'm sure these poor students were just victims of those gun toting rednecks who are clinging to their religion and were all part of the conspiracy of BushHitler and the jooos.

Did I get that right? Am I ready to infiltrate the liberal masses?

I guess the "we were just joshing about Jihad" defense is now a proven loser. Too bad Ely is a state prison, they ought to go to a prison that has the most ACLU complaints.

Denver police cleared in convention arrests.

great news. i feel safer knowing that my fellow citizens will weigh the evidence and convict terrorists based on that. good on the prosecutor and the jury.
as terrorism continues around the world, people will be looking closely and more critically at the actions perpetrated by jihadis.
and there will be no patience for them.
they better expect to be put away.

re: #44 FortunateSon

Why make martyrs out of them? This is, I think, less dignifying.

You don't have to make martyrs of them, Islam is truly a sick and twisted religion. According to Islam there are certain things that will cause Allah to reject you. Things that it is possible for you to have absolutely no control over. Like you being drowned in pig shit or blood.

Everyone -

Notice one thing - this is FEDERAL COURT - Conspiracy Charges tend to stick.
Think Blagojevich!

-S-

re: #4 EmmmieG

Just another thought--someone I loved, but who had had their head stuffed full of liberal fluff, once said to me, in all seriousness, that intolerance was the greatest sin.

I disagree. I can think of a lot worse. Blowing up soldiers, children, old ladies, for example...

Did you ask who was being intolerant? of whom?

Condi gets bling from Arabs.

re: #59 nyc redneck

great news. i feel safer knowing that my fellow citizens will weigh the evidence and convict terrorists based on that. good on the prosecutor and the jury.
as terrorism continues around the world, people will be looking closely and more critically at the actions perpetrated by jihadis.
and there will be no patience for them.
they better expect to be put away.

This is Burlington county - the only Republican county in New Jersey.

re: #16 Ojoe

I do not disagree that intolerance is a sin, but to say it is the greatest sin is shallow. If I had a choice of someone living next and thinking I was inferior, or leaving flyers on my door telling me I'm going to hell, or living next door and trying to hurt my children...bring on the flyers.

re: #60 doriangrey

Even doing something like you suggest is a nod to islam, just lock them up and feed them nothing special.

Life in prison...they got off easy, if that is what they get.

re: #46 Ben Hur

Bush Insider Who Planned To Tell All Killed In Plane Crash

Guys.

They're on to us.

Password: Birds fly east in the winter.

See you at the rendez-vous point.

Godspeed.

Got it.

'The duck has crapped Blue.'

See you at the rendez-vous point.

re: #62 Eowyn2

I had no intention of getting into an argument with my grandmother. I just nodded.

I hope they rot in jail. That's about all I have to say.

re: #57 Quilly Mammoth

I guess the "we were just joshing about Jihad" defense is now a proven loser. Too bad Ely is a state prison, they ought to go to a prison that has the most ACLU complaints.

Guantanamo?

No. Keep in general population.

re: #65 EmmmieG

Not the greatest, just sometimes a big one.

re: #37 Iron Fist

It took nearly a week to convict them. Can you imagine what a jury would have done to John Law if they'd busted Mohammed Atta and his boys before 9-11? They'd probably have to give Atta some kind of little settlement. I'm thinking Manhatten would probably do.

They found them not guilty on the attempted murder charges, but guilty on the conspiracy. They still face life in prison, and I'd rather the jury take the time and get the right verdict by going through all the related charges than the alternative.

re: #52 Ojoe

Chi tace consenta

Who is silent consents.

Love that! It's similar to:

‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ - which I believe was Edmund Burke?

re: #63 rawmuse

Condi gets bling from Arabs.

Thank you for acting against the will of the people and supporting our western imperialist appointed illegitimate regimes.

re: #46 Ben Hur

Bush Insider Who Planned To Tell All Killed In Plane Crash

Guys.

They're on to us.

Password: Birds fly east in the winter.

See you at the rendez-vous point.

Godspeed.

There should be a liability for this type of slander. Despite the good news of this thread I think our legal system is seriously broken.

re: #46 Ben Hur

Bush Insider Who Planned To Tell All Killed In Plane Crash

Guys.

They're on to us.

Password: Birds fly east in the winter.

See you at the rendez-vous point.

Godspeed.

Don't worry. I've called in a Cleaner. It'll all be taken care of.

re: #64 DistantThunder

This is Burlington county - the only Republican county in New Jersey.

well, we got lucky. imagine how demoralizing if these scum had been acquitted.

re: #77 lifeofthemind

There should be a liability for this type of slander. Despite the good news of this thread I think our legal system is seriously broken.

Who would continue to fly if they thought there was a legitimate suspicion that their plane was being tampered with? Idiot.

re: #46 Ben Hur

I thought it was "snot turns sleeves green!" Wait!

re: #71 Nevergiveup

I hope they rot in jail. That's about all I have to say.

that says it all.

re: #79 nyc redneck

well, we got lucky. imagine how demoralizing if these scum had been acquitted.

The jurors would be run out of the county.

re: #67 Iron Fist

I agree, except that I don't see any pressing need to let Ayers continue stealing our precious oxygen. The world would get along just fine without him.

Ayers got off because of illegal wiretaps. He should have been retried without the evidence gotten from the taps, if they had enough.
Like Ayers says, "Guilty as sin, free as a bird."

Hmmm. Lessee. You make a video of you planning jihad, complete with yelling and screaming "JIHAD", and somebody at the duplication center notices it and tips off the FBI.

You then wonder why you are brought up on conspiracy to commit murder charges, and have the gall to basically say, "Oh, no! Not us! Nosiree, we're just, uh, ummm, playing around! Yeah, that's it! Playing around".

You are convicted of conspiracy to commit murder.

What did you expect, Sherlock? Do you often go looking for gas leaks with lighters as well? That seems to be about your speed.

Hey, send 'em to Camp Freedom on Diego Garcia for life, it's the least they deserve...

JAFLW

re: #66 Ojoe

Even doing something like you suggest is a nod to islam, just lock them up and feed them nothing special.

No, they fight and die for Allah in jihad because it is a guarantee that Allah will forgive them and their families of their sins and send them instantly to paradise. Guaranteeing them a death that ensures they go straight to hell regardless of their dedication to Allah is the only way to prevent them from engaging in jihad.

re: #46 Ben Hur

Bush Insider Who Planned To Tell All Killed In Plane Crash

Guys.

They're on to us.

Password: Birds fly east in the winter.

See you at the rendez-vous point.

Godspeed.

Roger that.
On KOA (Denver AM) radio this morning I heard that the plane accident/incident a couple nights ago was probably due to brake problems.
The investigators said it would take time, but the cause problem appeared to be either due to a brake locking up on takeoff (slowing the plane down too much), or a brake failure when the takeoff attempt was aborted.

In any case, they are concerned about contacting the passengers on the flight because of the worry that the incident will fade from the passengers' memories.
The plane slid into a 40-foot deep ditch, and the whole side of the plane caught fire. 18 people injured, 2 critically, last I heard.
Crew evacuated all persons on board in about 90 seconds -- before the fire/rescue trucks could even arrive on scene, the way things are supposed to work for a pleasant change.

I know I'd certainly forget something that minor quickly ...

Found this article:

[Link: www.jihadica.com...]

"That’s the title of a post last week by Faloja member `Umar `Abd al-Hakim in Syria. `Umar believes that Jihadis have successfully penetrated Youtube and it’s now time to more directly market their materials to the masses. To this end, he gives an overview of Facebook and why it will be useful for Jihadi propagandists. To get the ball rolling, `Umar and others announced a campaign yesterday, “Aid Invasion2″ (Ghazwat al-Nusra2). Below is a summary of `Umar’s introductory post, followed by the announcement of the campaign.

Note that the Facebook invaders believe the propaganda front is outside of the Jihadi forums, a point I have made repeatedly. Moreover, this is not an attempt to replicate the social networks that exist on the forums; the members of the campaign want to exploit existing networks of people who are hostile to them and presumably they will adopt new identities once they have posted their material. Additionally, `Umar believes this is a solution to the recent closure of prominent Jihadi forums and channels of media distribution. Finally, the structure of the Nusra2 campaign organization is interesting: compartmentalized and hierarchical.`Umar’s “Raiding Facebook: Theory and Practice”:

* We have already had great success in raiding Youtube.
* American politicians have used Facebook to get votes, like the house slave Obama.
* Anyone can join and you can reach millions of people. The April 6 youth are a good example of this.
* I am writing this because supporters of jihad don’t know how to use Facebook to reach Americans or Muslims.
* Don’t worry about security as long as you don’t disclose your personal info and you use new email addresses to subscribe.
* A large number of people in the Arab world are using Facebook.
* We can use Facebook to fight the media attack on Jihadi media and the forums. We can post media on Facebook that shows the Crusader losses.
* Since Facebook is so widespread, we need to use it.
* By using Facebook, we can move from the forums and engage common people and Americans themselves to show them the reality of their losses, which are being concealed by their media.
* One of the goals of invading Facebook is to “move away from elite society (the forums and the Jihadi websites) to Muslims in general and participate and interact with them.” [parenthetical comments are `Umar's]
* The brothers should immediately start to build their expertise in using Facebook.
* I’ve called this campaign “Ghazwat al-Nusra2″ (Aid Invasion2) because we are aiding our brothers on the forums: Hesbah, Firdaws, Boraq, and Ekhlaas.

`Umar then provides a series of detailed instructions on how to sign up for Facebook.

Yesterday’s announcement of the structure of the campaign follows:

There are seven brigades, each headed by a commander.

1. Sharia Brigade: spreads Salafi-Jiahdi doctrine and responding to doubts planted by erring people to misguide Muslim youth. It will distribute articles and audio messages from Salafi-Jihadi scholars.
2. Media and Planning Brigade: distributes Jihadi media files and incitement plans
3. Statements Brigade: posts Jihadi statements
4. Preparation Brigade: distributes military training material
5. Security Brigade: distributes security info required for Jihadi media and also security courses
6. English Media Brigade: posts Jihadi media and statements in English
7. Martyrs and Prisoners Brigade: distributes bios, writings, and videos of martyrs. Also material on prisoners

Each brigade will establish a special group that is secret and not known to the other brigades. There is no contact between any of the brigades. Each brigade will have eight members, who will each participate in at least two groups. ...
"

re: #69 Racer X

Got it.

'The duck has crapped Blue.'

See you at the rendez-vous point.

John has a large mustache...

See you at the rendez-vous point.

re: #69 Racer X

Got it.

'The duck has crapped Blue.'

See you at the rendez-vous point.

The pelagic argosy sights land.
(Extra points for anyone who gets that, probably obscure, reference)

Aw Geez. Can someone read 88 for me.

re: #77 lifeofthemind

There should be a liability for this type of slander. Despite the good news of this thread I think our legal system is seriously broken.

I'm thinking the same thing. I try not to be a cynic, but with what's been happening recently, and what I've been reading about the plans of the incoming administration, I think JFK's quote may need to be updated:

Ask not what your country can do for you;

Ask what your country can do to you.

Very sad.

re: #63 rawmuse

Condi gets bling from Arabs.

Non story, happens all the time, they don't keep it, so what does that mean?

2008 in Photos Part II.

Don't expect Israeli victims of terror.

Do expect as many Pali "victims" or "peace activists" as you saw in Part I.

Notice the amount of photogs taking a picture of the injured African. Maybe some water, brother?

[Link: www.boston.com...]

re: #4 EmmmieG

Just another thought--someone I loved, but who had had their head stuffed full of liberal fluff, once said to me, in all seriousness, that intolerance was the greatest sin.

I disagree. I can think of a lot worse. Blowing up soldiers, children, old ladies, for example...

Doesn't that make the guilty of the very intolerance they condemn?

There are plenty of other extremist cells out there, but so far, they lack the leadership and skills to be effective. Let's hope our counter-terrorism guys keep them that way.

re: #86 doriangrey

No, they fight and die for Allah in jihad because it is a guarantee that Allah will forgive them and their families of their sins and send them instantly to paradise. Guaranteeing them a death that ensures they go straight to hell regardless of their dedication to Allah is the only way to prevent them from engaging in jihad.

Right & it has to be common knowledge among the Holy Warriers.
Never happen though.

So, has CAIR protested this clear case of Islamophobia yet?
These poor kids were just trying to practice their faith!
/partly

re: #63 rawmuse

Condi gets bling from Arabs.

I have never sean the point of this type of gift. They know it ends up the US archives or some such place. I'm sure some items can get loaned back to the White House or State Department for display but otherwise it goes into storage.

Does the US ever auction this sort of thing off?

re: #91 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm having the same problem you are. Does "We've already gotten YouTube, let's aim for FaceBook" summarize it?

EXCLUSIVE: Bush, Cheney comforted troops privately
Met with thousands of war injured, kin out of spotlight

[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

Quite frankly, I have very little faith in Obama's ability to connect with the troops the way Bush seems to have. It's fine to say you support the troops and appreciate their service but I don't see how you can really connect with them if you don't support their mission and value their victories.
[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

re: #93 Walter L. Newton

Please tell me they let Laura eat the dried fruit and nuts.

It is bad enough that we we have to spend hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of dollars guarding these wastes of oxygen but why do we have to offer them more than the minimal level of calories to keep flesh breathing for the next 50 years, with no exercise equipment? Most felons are released and our prisons produce stronger meaner criminals.

re: #94 ploome hineni

FOX is identifying them aas muslim, how are the other channels descrbing these people?

Probably every Muslim/Arab news outfit on Earth.

Only WESTERN MSM pulls that shit.

re: #78 Occasional Reader

Indeed. He's a problem solver. And in more than one movie too.

re: #70 EmmmieG

I had no intention of getting into an argument with my grandmother. I just nodded.

ah, as a gramma, I enjoy a bit of argument with the whippersnappers.
but I can understand your reticence

re: #9 Racer X

Bill Ayers should be in jail right next to them.

A runaway karma goldmine!

re: #94 ploome hineni

FOX is identifying them aas muslim, how are the other channels descrbing these people?

American military history buffs!

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

"Today YouTube--tomorrow the world!"

Pinky and the Brain, they ain't.

re: #63 rawmuse

Condi gets bling from Arabs.

re: #100 Fredlike

I have never sean the point of this type of gift. They know it ends up the US archives or some such place. I'm sure some items can get loaned back to the White House or State Department for display but otherwise it goes into storage.

Does the US ever auction this sort of thing off?

Does this mean that Bush has to give the shoes back to that Iraqi reporter?

re: #104 EmmmieG

Please tell me they let Laura eat the dried fruit and nuts.

I believe the politically correct terms are "older alternative lifestyle practitioners" and "mentally challenged".

re: #95 Ben Hur

2008 in Photos Part II.

Don't expect Israeli victims of terror.

Do expect as many Pali "victims" or "peace activists" as you saw in Part I.

Notice the amount of photogs taking a picture of the injured African. Maybe some water, brother?

[Link: www.boston.com...]

I liked the one of the Large hardon Collider.
They misspelled it "hadron", though.

NY Times published fake letter from Paris mayor

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Considering the letter was critical of her highness Caroline, I am kinda surprised also?

re: #115 jwb7605

I liked the one of the Large hardon Collider.
They misspelled it "hadron", though.

That may be the best typo of the year.

re: #14 doriangrey

fry um up good. then some liberal judge or pol can't let um go.

FRY MUMIA

re: #63 rawmuse

Condi gets bling from Arabs.

Raw -

The US Gov't gets the stuff - folks seem to forget that.

-S-

I can assure you that there were no members of the ACLU on that jury. The only person they would have convicted would have been the Circuit City store clerk.

re: #94 ploome hineni

FOX is identifying them aas muslim, how are the other channels descrbing these people?

minorities? victims? youths? pranksters?
hard working young men? pillars of society?
the wrongly accused and convicted?

Something tells me that the Dave Matthews band has been the cause of as much Marijuana consumption as the Grateful Dead.

Not totally random (BTW) he's on TV right now. Listening.

OT, Noam Chomsky's wife has died:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.obituaries/browse_thread/thread/4885898f4ab202ac#

Condolences to Dr. Chomsky, much as I disagree with him (virulently) on nearly all topics.

re: #93 Walter L. Newton

Non story, happens all the time, they don't keep it, so what does that mean?

Let me take a look at that. What do you know I think that appraises at $24.99.
Just a second and I'll write you an appraisal receipt.

I'm about halfway through Bridgitte Gabriel's book "They Must Be Stopped." It is a great book and I'm sure many lizards have seen it. I recommend it highly. She mentions that we have to be aware of these "caucasian looking" jihadis. And I'm sure this conviction brings a smile to her face.

re: #103 Nevergiveup

Quite frankly, I have very little faith in Obama's ability to connect with the troops the way Bush seems to have.

I remember Obama's bored, phoning-it-in tone from his Veteran's Day speech.

re: #117 Silhouette

That may be the best typo of the year.

Typo? Phew! I cringed when I read the original...thought, "that's gotta hurt".

re: #103 Nevergiveup

EXCLUSIVE: Bush, Cheney comforted troops privately
Met with thousands of war injured, kin out of spotlight

[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

Quite frankly, I have very little faith in Obama's ability to connect with the troops the way Bush seems to have. It's fine to say you support the troops and appreciate their service but I don't see how you can really connect with them if you don't support their mission and value their victories.
[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

But wait, he said that he probably would have enlisted in the military , if there would have been a war to fight. Obarambo!

re: #97 quickjustice

There are plenty of other extremist cells out there, but so far, they lack the leadership and skills to be effective. Let's hope our counter-terrorism guys keep them that way.

IN MOMBAI the terrorist seemed to have the skills to do the job we lucked out on this one.

re: #103 Nevergiveup

Met with thousands of war injured, kin out of spotlight

And you can bet that on those instances in which Obama visits injured troops, he'll make sure that there's full media coverage. Remember his Germany trip?

re: #65 EmmmieG

I do not disagree that intolerance is a sin, but to say it is the greatest sin is shallow. If I had a choice of someone living next and thinking I was inferior, or leaving flyers on my door telling me I'm going to hell, or living next door and trying to hurt my children...bring on the flyers.

I think intolerance is one of those "fuzzy" words liberals like to hide behind for use in justifying any perversion or immorality for which they wish not to be condemned.

There are a good many things we should never be tolerant of...murder, thievery, child abuse, lying, rape, cheating...

All of these can be couched in cultural contexts to hide their true nature and then forced into acceptance via "tolerance".

There are a lot of acts which I will not tolerate nor which will I accept as "normal" in a different culture and therefore to be tolerated in mine.

Obviously these poor yoots have been led astray by the horrors of the BusHitlerCheneyHalliburtonIlluminatiFreeMasonZionistCracker War against Islam.

I call on our saviour (Hollow be his name) The Great and Might BHussainO to grant a full and complete pardon and transport them on Air Farce One to whichever Islamic capital he deigns to honor with his upcoming major policy speech.

Besides, I have it on good authority that the jurors stayed in a motel where there were Gideon Bibles in the nightstands. As clear a case of jury tampering as ever I've heard.

Part III

Notice #10.

Notice the VICTIMS in #12. VERY GRAPHIC. NOtice that they are not wearing uniforms like they do in the AP STAGED photos you normally see.

In those photos they're always wearing clean new uniforms. When they really go out for action, in civies, of course.

LOVE #29.

re: #131 Occasional Reader

And you can bet that on those instances in which Obama visits injured troops, he'll make sure that there's full media coverage. Remember his Germany trip?

The one were he punted on seeing the injured soldiers because the DOD would not let him bring the whole press shebang?

re: #135 Nevergiveup

The one were he punted on seeing the injured soldiers because the DOD would not let him bring the whole press shebang?

Bingo!

"No photo op? BORRRING!" So he went shopping instead (literally).

re: #130 yochanan

IN MOMBAI the terrorist seemed to have the skills to do the job we lucked out on this one.

We won this one. Fry 'em. Now we've got to make sure political correctness doesn't totally screw our chances in this ongoing war.

re: #134 Ben Hur

Part III

Notice the VICTIMS in #12. VERY GRAPHIC. NOtice that they are not wearing uniforms like they do in the AP STAGED photos you normally see.

How refreshing to see one of these teams dealt with appropriately.

BTW, these photos are a nice find, Ben, thanks for that.

Thanks for the link to the photo essay.

Now, I'm looking at #5, of the space buggy with 12 wheels? NASA, I can't get out of my driveway right now. Could I...borrow...that for a while?

plotting to massacre U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix

Immigrants doing the work, domestic terrorist just guys in the neighborhood can't do.

re: #119 Dr. Shalit

Raw -

The US Gov't gets the stuff - folks seem to forget that.

-S-

The article tip toes around that, seems to report it and not report it at the same time.

Why should they go to jail when Bill Ayers is still free?

re: #138 Occasional Reader

How refreshing to see one of these teams dealt with appropriately.

BTW, these photos are a nice find, Ben, thanks for that.

good shooting, dead pali dogs.

re: #18 albusteve

anyone know what the rap is for these convictions...

Time served and a bailout?

Also, the tipster will be warned that Islamophobia like his has no place in the New Obamaciety...

Hang 'em high

re: #123 Chicken Kiev

OT, Noam Chomsky's wife has died:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.obituaries/brow se_thread/thread/4885898f4ab202ac#

Condolences to Dr. Chomsky, much as I disagree with him (virulently) on nearly all topics.

Frankly, I'm going to miss Majel Barrett-Roddenberry more...

JAFLW

You wonder how terrorists can be so dumb -- let's have Circuit City dupe our jihad video!; Tim McVeigh flees OKC without a license plate on his car ... it gives rise to conspiracy theories. Me, I believe stupidity is almost always the more likely explanation ...

re: #146 Just Another Four-letter Word

if i can't say something good about some one who died i will say nothing

re: #9 Racer X

Bill Ayers should be in jail right next to them.

Bill Ayers should be hanging next to them.

/didn't scroll through; might not be the first to say this.

re: #16 Ojoe

In some instances tolerance is a big sin.

Tolerance: the mark of a man with no convictions.

re: #149 Gang of One

Bill Ayers should be hanging next to them.

/didn't scroll through; might not be the first to say this.

a case of group think but what the hay hang um fry um

FRY MUMIA

re: #60 doriangrey

You don't have to make martyrs of them, Islam is truly a sick and twisted religion. According to Islam there are certain things that will cause Allah to reject you ... Like you being drowned in pig shit or blood.

This has been debunked about, oh, one quintillion times already, right here on LGF. It's just wishful thinking by people who want a quick and simple solution to a frustratingly complex problem.

re: #97 quickjustice

If you're referring to the article I posted in #21 it was from the Guardian which is the UK version of the Huffington Post. It looks like it is trying to link parallels to Islamic terrorism to non-Muslim terrorist organisations. I don't know if it is trying to show that terrorism isn't just a Muslim problem or deflecting attention away but I thought it was a midly interesting post on terrorism.

Thank you Lady Justice!