"Hippie church ain't gonna take the initiative to come out and say who they hate."

Obama's such a let down to the libs...

Wonder if they're kin to Marcel Ledbetter? Whoooooodog!

Valuable lesson - "Today's Democrats ain't gonna take a stand on nothing" That and the rest of that rant is just golden Golden.

GB 14 CHI 3 H. Chicago has like one first down.

GO PACKERS!

/help the Vikings back into the playoff, it's the only way they're going to make it

They have a point about the expectations placed on 0bama- I have to agree. Bound to be disappointment when he doesn't meet them.

Has the ocean receded yet?

Warren, or someone from his staff needs to explain why they took the
information down. It's only going to go downhill from here.

re: #6 Sharmuta

I still want my unicorn. And not to have to pay my mortgage, like, ever.

Just some guys in the neighborhood gettin ready to go drinkin, smoking, and shootin. Sort of like they do over at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms in Washington, D.C.

Lol.

On day he's minding his own business and the next day he agrees to say a prayer for Obama.

/now, suddenly, he's apparently public enemy number one

Is this the first thread started by Charles with boobs and Billy™ beer?

Saddleback Pastor Rick Warren to speak at King memorial

Just one day before giving the invocation at President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration, a local pastor will be the keynote speaker at the Martin Luther King Jr. Annual Commemorative Service, officials at Saddleback Church said.

Rick Warren – pastor of the 22,000-member Saddleback Church – made national headlines in recent days when proponents of gay marriage criticized the selection of Warren to give the invocation at President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration.

The service is scheduled for Jan. 19 at the historic Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta and is included in the official program of the 10-day King Center's Martin Luther King Jr. Celebration, which begins on Jan. 10.

/oh yeah, way to throw gasoline on the already exploding LLL heads!

re: #8 Iron Fist

I still want my unicorn. And not to have to pay my mortgage, like, ever.

I traded my unicorn in for some of that extra high potency weed my cousin's always trying to sell me. :p

I think the guy on the right is my brother ....

re: #13 Killian Bundy

Saddleback Pastor Rick Warren to speak at King memorial

/oh yeah, way to throw gasoline on the already exploding LLL heads!

ROTFLMAO.... and the down side to that is?

Ok, I just figured out the Redstate Update thing is liberals doing a parody. All this time I thought they were a right wing comedy act. Am I stupid or wrong?

re: #14 Sharmuta

I traded my unicorn in for some of that extra high potency weed my cousin's always trying to sell me. :p

Now, you know it's bound to disappoint . . .

re: #14 Sharmuta

I'd settle for a pony. It'd sure as hell beat what I think Obama is going to be doing to me (and the entire country) for the next four years.

that is DANGED funny

My brother-in-laws brother used to preach at Willie Nelson's mother's church. About once a year Willie would show up in nice shined shoes, three piece suit and his hair fixed in a traditional masculine style. Willie's mother didn't subscribe to no hippie churchgoin' ways.

re: #15 JacksonTn

I think the guy on the right is my brother ....

We all be bruthas.

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Pretty safe bet that it is a parody of Southern Republicans.

Warren could just stop the whole problem by restoring the web pages within the hour.

However I doubt it will happen. I don't think Warren is a real Chirstian.

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Ok, I just figured out the Redstate Update thing is liberals doing a parody. All this time I thought they were a right wing comedy act. Am I stupid or wrong?

There's always the possibility that you could be both! There is something to say for being able to multi-task!

re: #18 reine.de.tout

Now, you know it's bound to disappoint . . .

If Obama gets me a unicorn that farts rainbows, it'll probably be three legged and orange and the rainbow will be missing a few colors.

re: #18 reine.de.tout

Now, you know it's bound to disappoint . . .

I already miss Snowflake (my unicorn).

re: #19 Iron Fist

I'd settle for a pony. It'd sure as hell beat what I think Obama is going to be doing to me (and the entire country) for the next four years.

I have some extra high potency weed I could sell you.

re: #14 Sharmuta

I traded my unicorn in for some of that extra high potency weed my cousin's always trying to sell me. :p

I sold my unicorn so I could get enough money to buy my girlfriend a bluetooth headset. Yesterday I gave her the headset for Christmas. Do you know what she gave me? A muffler for my unicorns horn, which she purchased with money she get when she sold her 16g Iphone.

re: #11 Killian Bundy

On day he's minding his own business and the next day he agrees to say a prayer for Obama.

/now, suddenly, he's apparently public enemy number one

He and CBBHO have known each other since at least 2006.

re: #19 Iron Fist

ummm...the pony will cost you MUCH more than the taxes. For all the rest, the pony is a much better choice. I have a few, want one?

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

Gift of the Magi, one of my favorites.

I believe that Jackie would put on a tie to go to church.

To the Obama team, Rick Warren must have seemed like the most moderate pastor out there after the Reverend Wright Experience.

Surprise!

re: #31 ArmyWife

Gift of the Magi, one of my favorites.

The Magi brought BlueTooth Headsets to Bethleham ?

re: #31 ArmyWife

Gift of the Magi, one of my favorites.

No, Gift of the Unicorn Muffler by O Isn't That Dope Good.
/

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

I sold my unicorn so I could get enough money to buy my girlfriend a bluetooth headset. Yesterday I gave her the headset for Christmas. Do you know what she gave me? A muffler for my unicorns horn, which she purchased with money she get when she sold her 16g Iphone.

You have read Gift of the Magi a few too many times!

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

The gift of the magi. Beautiful story

re: #33 Charles

To the Obama team, Rick Warren must have seemed like the most moderate pastor out there after the Reverend Wright Experience.

Surprise!

Rabbi Arnold Wolf is deeply disappointe.

Looking for the buffet at Shoneys.

re: #33 Charles

To the Obama team, Rick Warren must have seemed like the most moderate pastor out there after the Reverend Wright Experience.

Surprise!

It's not fair to make me laugh that hard!

re: #36 Dianna

You have read Gift of the Magi a few too many times!

Hell, I just got finished sitting though it every week at the theatre since Nov. 7th. It got to the point I wanted to see Dell head out the door to sell her hair, slip, her hair get caught in the door frame and Jim finds her 8 hours later, hung, DEAD.

So, last night who was it who was talking about Obama going shirtless?

Well - here they are.

The latest swoon-worthy pics

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

I sold my unicorn so I could get enough money to buy my girlfriend a bluetooth headset. Yesterday I gave her the headset for Christmas. Do you know what she gave me? A muffler for my unicorns horn, which she purchased with money she get when she sold her 16g Iphone.

I think that is the saddest Christmas story I've ever read.

re: #29 MandyManners

He and CBBHO have known each other since at least 2006.

/and?

re: #33 Charles

Compared to "Rev" Wright, he is. Of course, so is the "Rev" Sun Myung Moon. Or just about anybody else who isn't screaming "God damn America!" from the pulpit.

re: #39 MandyManners

Looking for the buffet at Shoneys.

And buffet is sounded out "buff it"

re: #41 Walter L. Newton

There's something wrong with me tonight - that image is making me giggle helplessly.

re: #34 sattv4u2

The Magi brought BlueTooth Headsets to Bethleham ?

No... I believe it was the Garmen GPS.

re: #43 Truck Monkey

I think that is the saddest Christmas story I've ever read.

No, I still got fucked!

re: #42 reine.de.tout

He looks fit enough to dodge a shoe or two.

re: #42 reine.de.tout

So, last night who was it who was talking about Obama going shirtless?

Well - here they are.

The latest swoon-worthy pics

I'm resisting clicking, because I know I'll regret it.

Does he even have pecs?

Ok all, I am headed to bed. We are loading up the sleigh and headed for Vermont tomorrow. Should be fun! (right). I am bringing venison chili and tamales (my family's traditional Christmas dinner) to avoid Mr. Armywife's split pea soup tradition.

re: #42 reine.de.tout

So, last night who was it who was talking about Obama going shirtless?

Well - here they are.

The latest swoon-worthy pics

I don't know... but from the looks of it he needs a manzier.

re: #41 Walter L. Newton

Hell, I just got finished sitting though it every week at the theatre since Nov. 7th. It got to the point I wanted to see Dell head out the door to sell her hair, slip, her hair get caught in the door frame and Jim finds her 8 hours later, hung, DEAD.

That jolted me.
About 30 years ago, I worked with a girl whose brother got drunk on Christmas Eve, staggered home, tried to jump over a wooden fence, got hung up, and was found the next morning frozen to death upside down.

No kidding.

re: #49 Walter L. Newton

No, I still got fucked!

That could actually mean one of two things.....

re: #49 Walter L. Newton

No, I still got fucked!

poor girl...

re: #47 Dianna

There's something wrong with me tonight - that image is making me giggle helplessly.

ROTFLMAO..... If I hadn't done my own time in the performing art's I might disagree with Walter on that one.... But like you that image makes me laugh my ass off.... ;)

re: #53 Truck Monkey

I don't know... but from the looks of it he needs a manzier.

All that dope smoking as a co-ed grew him some teats!

re: #47 Dianna

There's something wrong with me tonight - that image is making me giggle helplessly.

No, no, I usually leave my really morbid sense of humor at the door of LGF, I just slipped there, Enjoy.

We did two of the stories, both were operetta's and the other story was O. Henry's "The LAst Leaf." I wanted a Twilight Zone ending where you find Mr. Behrmann hanging in the alley, with a brush, a pallet, green and white paint and the leaf that he painted on the vine. That would have been kickass.

re: #42 reine.de.tout

So, last night who was it who was talking about Obama going shirtless?

Well - here they are.

The latest swoon-worthy pics

Hey reine ...how long before you think there will be a calendar of shirtless Obama pics? Putin is gonna be so jealous ...

"put on a damn tie if you goin' to preach, don't stand up there like Al from 'Home Improvement"

re: #58 Taqyia2Me

All that dope smoking as a co-ed grew him some teats!

They look suckle-worthy.

re: #56 albusteve

poor girl...

It was Dr. Laura.

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

It was Dr. Laura.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh!

mind bleach warning, please!

re: #60 JacksonTn

Hey reine ...how long before you think there will be a calendar of shirtless Obama pics? Putin is gonna be so jealous ...

Putin would make Barry cry like a beyootch.

re: #55 Truck Monkey

That could actually mean one of two things.....

Can't you see the smile on my face, look close, question answered.

re: #51 Dianna

I'm resisting clicking, because I know I'll regret it.

Does he even have pecs?

there's actually only one photo.
He actually looks a tad flabby to me - slim, but not really toned.

re: #64 ggt

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh!

mind bleach warning, please!

I have some pictures of her (NSFW)...

[Link: www.francesfarmersrevenge.com...]

re: #60 JacksonTn

Hey reine ...how long before you think there will be a calendar of shirtless Obama pics? Putin is gonna be so jealous ...

ooh.
Putin was actually pretty easy on the eyes.
Obama - in a year or two or three -he won't be.

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

It was Dr. Laura.

The years have not been kind to Dr. Laura. She looks like the crypt keeper.

This reminds me- have the 0bamas found a new church yet?

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

It was Dr. Laura.

who is Dr Laura and why would you do such a thing to her?

I don't care who ya are, that's funny right dere.

re: #64 ggt

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh!

mind bleach warning, please!

Well dont go to the other thread for Walters NSFW Dr. Laura photo's... That will really require brain bleach....

re: #67 reine.de.tout

there's actually only one photo.
He actually looks a tad flabby to me - slim, but not really toned.

I think I'll give it a pass. I have enough problems without that image getting between me and plotting my assault upon my Male's virtue.

From the land of unicorns and rainbows......
Melissa Etheridge to gays: Turns out Rick Warren’s a great guy, so let’s let it go

Sure, there are plenty of hateful people who will always hold on to their bigotry like a child to a blanket. But there are also good people out there, Christian and otherwise that are beginning to listen. They don’t hate us, they fear change. Maybe in our anger, as we consider marches and boycotts, perhaps we can consider stretching out our hands.

re: #44 Killian Bundy

/and?

Hasn't he known what Warren is about for at least that long? That shows his duplicity is really strong.

re: #76 Killgore Trout

From the land of unicorns and rainbows......
Melissa Etheridge to gays: Turns out Rick Warren’s a great guy, so let’s let it go

Oh, Melissa, please.

Shut up and sing!

re: #74 doriangrey

Well dont go to the other thread for Walters NSFW Dr. Laura photo's... That will really require brain bleach....

Doh..... to late on that warning...... ;(

re: #42 reine.de.tout

So, last night who was it who was talking about Obama going shirtless?

Well - here they are.

The latest swoon-worthy pics

Boy, that guy is like a chameleon, dark, light, in between.

re: #42 reine.de.tout

So, last night who was it who was talking about Obama going shirtless?

Well - here they are.

The latest swoon-worthy pics

He has bigger man boobs than Vlad Putin.

re: #78 Dianna

I'd prefer she just shut up. Never cared much for her singing.

re: #46 Walter L. Newton

And buffet is sounded out "buff it"

And, to see the state flag of Tennessee behind them kinda' pisses me off.

re: #78 Dianna

Oh, Melissa, please.

Shut up and singgo away!

Alternate ending.

re: #72 albusteve

who is Dr Laura and why would you do such a thing to her?

I think her as the female version of Dr. Phil.
Except the advice is worse.

re: #78 Dianna

Oh, Melissa, please.

Shut up and sing!

Ummm, how about she just shut's up and doesnt sing... ;p

re: #75 Dianna

I think I'll give it a pass. I have enough problems without that image getting between me and plotting my assault upon my Male's virtue.

No, you do not need that image to plot your assault upon your Male's virtue.

re: #49 Walter L. Newton

No, I still got fucked!

Christmas nookie?

re: #71 Sharmuta

I think he's cut out the middle man and is praying directly to Himself.

re: #76 Killgore Trout

oooh, I just realized there's video of Warren's MPAC speech at the end of that thread.

re: #89 Iron Fist

I think he's cut out the middle man and is praying directly to Himself.

winner!

re: #85 jwb7605

I think her as the female version of Dr. Phil.
Except the advice is worse.

thanks..so she's a telepsychoanalysist?...and Walter and Killgore watch this shit?....bwahahahaha...ooofff...

re: #85 jwb7605

I think her as the female version of Dr. Phil.
Except the advice is worse.

I can't stand Dr. Laura's advice, but I do like her voice, she's tough and not bad looking (IMO). I would.

re: #82 Killgore Trout

I'd prefer she just shut up. Never cared much for her singing.

Ahem. "Sleep While I Drive"?

re: #62 Truck Monkey

Oh, just gross.

*whack*

re: #87 reine.de.tout

No, you do not need that image to plot your assault upon your Male's virtue.

ROTFLMAO.... One good look at that image and her males virtue is safer than if he were wearing a stainless steal chastity belt... ;p

re: #88 MandyManners

Christmas nookie?

There will be, Thurs. more like a marathon. My birthday is Wed., 56, and still frisky as hell.

re: #84 CynicalConservative

Alternate ending.

Sigh. I'm sorry. I've hated the last couple albums, but I forgive her lots for a very few songs.

re: #93 Walter L. Newton

I can't stand Dr. Laura's advice, but I do like her voice, she's tough and not bad looking (IMO). I would.

you would what?....masterbate while watching Dr Laura?......

re: #89 Iron Fist

LMAO!

re: #67 reine.de.tout

there's actually only one photo.
He actually looks a tad flabby to me - slim, but not really toned.

that's what i thought.
slim AND flabby is not a good combination

re: #93 Walter L. Newton

I can't stand Dr. Laura's advice, but I do like her voice, she's tough and not bad looking (IMO). I would.

Hmm... Maybe you were thinking of Laura Ingraham?

re: #95 MandyManners

Oh, just gross.

*whack*

missed that one, Mandy, thanks!
(had to upding him)

re: #92 albusteve

thanks..so she's a telepsychoanalysist?...and Walter and Killgore watch this shit?....bwahahahaha...ooofff...

Was that lsat two "words" in your post descriptive of you choking?

re: #95 MandyManners

Oh, just gross.

*whack*

Ouch. That was good for me.

; )

Has it occurred to any one here that "Jackie and Dunlap" really hate all conservatives and want to see them dead? (or at least not registering to vote).

Click into "Christmas in a Beer Joint" and check out the Sarah Palin look-a-like.

re: #96 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.... One good look at that image and her males virtue is safer than if he were wearing a stainless steal chastity belt... ;p

His virtue is never safe from me!

Unless I'm writing, in which case, Adrian Paul's virtue would be safe.

More's the pity.

re: #98 Dianna

Sigh. I'm sorry. I've hated the last couple albums, but I forgive her lots for a very few songs.

Music is a strange thing. I can't stand a note she's produced, but I can understand the feeling.

re: #104 Walter L. Newton

Was that lsat two "words" in your post descriptive of you choking?

almost...but not my chicken for gods sake....

re: #85 jwb7605

I think her as the female version of Dr. Phil.
Except the advice is worse.

Just about every caller thinks he or she will be the first caller ever to get Dr Laura to abandon her core priciples especially for them. And they are always disappointed. She calls a wench a wench and a boar a boar.

re: #102 Noam Sayin'

Hmm... Maybe you were thinking of Laura Ingraham?

No, I'm thinking of Dr. Laura Slashingherwrists or how ever you spell her last name.

re: #102 Noam Sayin'

Hmm... Maybe you were thinking of Laura Ingraham?

Unlike Dr. Laura, I actually like Laura Ingraham.
Ever listen to her when somebody pronounces it "ing-ra-ham"?
She's better on Bill O'Reilly than O'Reilly. At least she doesn't waffle.
I caught almost every show she had during the breast cancer treatments.
Learned a lot.

re: #110 Taqyia2Me

Just about every caller thinks he or she will be the first caller ever to get Dr Laura to abandon her core priciples especially for them. And they are always disappointed. She calls a wench a wench and a boar a boar.

I have to wonder about the callers. They're generally pretty pathetic.

Of course, I have to wonder about anyone calling a radio show for advice. Don't they have friends?

re: #112 jwb7605

Unlike Dr. Laura, I actually like Laura Ingraham.
Ever listen to her when somebody pronounces it "ing-ra-ham"?
She's better on Bill O'Reilly than O'Reilly. At least she doesn't waffle.
I caught almost every show she had during the breast cancer treatments.
Learned a lot.

The staton she was on here (Atlanta) re-vamped their line-up and now she's odd (wo)man out

re: #113 Dianna

I have to wonder about the callers. They're generally pretty pathetic.

Of course, I have to wonder about anyone calling a radio show for advice. Don't they have friends?

Or brains of their own?

No WHACK for #99?

re: #110 Taqyia2Me

Just about every caller thinks he or she will be the first caller ever to get Dr Laura to abandon her core priciples especially for them. And they are always disappointed. She calls a wench a wench and a boar a boar.

I admit she doesn't waver.
I just don't like her advice.
... could easily be wrong -- don't listen much, because I formed the opinion.
(Kinda like Sean Hannity)

re: #99 albusteve

you would what?....masterbate while watching Dr Laura?......

*whack*

re: #113 Dianna

re: #115 reine.de.tout

It;s due to the Health Care Insurance "crises". It's all Bush's fault. All those people can afford is 30 seconds of free radio help

re: #116 rawmuse

No WHACK for #99?

Mandy must not be paying close attention.

As for me - GOOD NIGHT, everyone!

re: #116 rawmuse

No WHACK for #99?

albusteve is mad at me now.

re: #120 reine.de.tout

Mandy must not be paying close attention.

As for me - GOOD NIGHT, everyone!

Night...

re: #120 reine.de.tout

Mandy must not be paying close attention.

As for me - GOOD NIGHT, everyone!

Good night and merry Christmas

re: #116 rawmuse

No WHACK for #99?

these people...what can you do with them?...re: #121 Walter L. Newton

albusteve is mad at me now.

no I'm not...dont be silly you kook...

re: #117 jwb7605

I admit she doesn't waver.
I just don't like her advice.
... could easily be wrong -- don't listen much, because I formed the opinion.
(Kinda like Sean Hannity)

I gotta agree with you on Sean Hannity. I know what he'll say before he says it. Dr Laura is on the radio when my wife is in the car with me. We get a kick on how all the callers always say, "right" all the time when Dr Laura is calling, like they're going to even consider taking her advice.

re: #110 Taqyia2Me

Just about every caller thinks he or she will be the first caller ever to get Dr Laura to abandon her core priciples especially for them. And they are always disappointed. She calls a wench a wench and a boar a boar.

Dr. Laura jumped the shark years ago when she admitted that she wasn't really following the religion she allegedly converted to. Do as I say not as I do!

re: #124 albusteve

no I'm not...dont be silly you kook...

I've never seen it this slow this early in the evening.

re: #113 Dianna

I have to wonder about the callers. They're generally pretty pathetic.

Of course, I have to wonder about anyone calling a radio show for advice. Don't they have friends?

You would also think that if they were regular listeners of the show, they'd have an idea what the doctor would tell them. A lot of times, I think people want to be told their poor decision is okay. It's quite possible they did ask a friend, who didn't tell them what they wanted to hear, so they turn to another source hoping to get a different answer. Rarely works that way.

re: #127 Walter L. Newton

I've never seen it this slow this early in the evening.

What are you talking about? I'm this slow every early evening, not to mention late morning, early afternoon, etc etc !

re: #68 Walter L. Newton

I have some pictures of her (NSFW)...

[Link: www.francesfarmersrevenge.com...]

and, you can keep them . . . . .:0

re: #129 sattv4u2

What are you talking about? I'm this slow every early evening, not to mention late morning, early afternoon, etc etc !

No, you're trying to freak me out.

re: #127 Walter L. Newton

I've never seen it this slow this early in the evening.

Everyone's shopping, wrapping, or otherwise prepping.

Somehow, I have difficulty imagining that Rev. Wright is sympathetic to gays.

re: #125 Taqyia2Me

I gotta agree with you on Sean Hannity. I know what he'll say before he says it. Dr Laura is on the radio when my wife is in the car with me. We get a kick on how all the callers always say, "right" all the time when Dr Laura is calling, like they're going to even consider taking her advice.

I posted almost that exact comment about him way back when (before the conventions, I think).
It's reassuring to know somebody else has that thought, and disturbing to realize that a lot of the conservative population loves him.

Ever listen to Dennis Prager?
He's a (frequently more than a) bit annoying, but I really love Fridays when people call in telling stories during his "happiness hour".

re: #133 rawmuse

Somehow, I have difficulty imagining that Rev. Wright is sympathetic to gays.

He would take their $ in the collection plate, I bet!

re: #132 Dianna

Everyone's shopping, wrapping, or otherwise prepping.

No... They are currently bundled into the sleigh and headed over the hills to grandmothers house.... ;)

re: #130 ggt

and, you can keep them . . . . .:0

Oh, they're not actually mine, just some I found a link to. Did you like them Isn't Dr. Laura hot. Can you imagine her putting some of that psychological whoop-ass on you when you're naked and running around her office. Wew...

re: #132 Dianna

Everyone's shopping, wrapping, or otherwise prepping.

Well, not everyone...

re: #132 Dianna

Everyone's shopping, wrapping, or otherwise prepping.

None of that for me. That's so passe, so neo-victorian.
/

I was losing the Christmas lights Arms Race with my neighbors, so I put up some more. Half off at Walgreen's.

re: #134 jwb7605

I posted almost that exact comment about him way back when (before the conventions, I think).
It's reassuring to know somebody else has that thought, and disturbing to realize that a lot of the conservative population loves him.

Ever listen to Dennis Prager?
He's a (frequently more than a) bit annoying, but I really love Fridays when people call in telling stories during his "happiness hour".

The only part of his show I really like is the 'man on the street' interview. Manhattan is FULL of winners (sarc)!

re: #128 Sharmuta

You would also think that if they were regular listeners of the show, they'd have an idea what the doctor would tell them. A lot of times, I think people want to be told their poor decision is okay. It's quite possible they did ask a friend, who didn't tell them what they wanted to hear, so they turn to another source hoping to get a different answer. Rarely works that way.

Quite right, I think.

What I love are those moments when you are standing on the precipice of doing something you bloody well know you shouldn't, and you ask a friend's advice, and they tell you what you already know, and you still get mad.

Actually, I don't do that. If I know I'm making a bad decision, but I'm decided already, I avoid asking advice.

This explains many of my "splat" moments.

have a great evening Lizards, I might not be back 'til the morning s o . . .

weet dreams!

Obama Playing Cards for The Masses

re: #133 rawmuse

Neither, really, is Obama. But they are Leftists, so that's OK.

re: #138 CynicalConservative

Well, not everyone...

Not me, true.

For those of you who listened to/watched the entire video:

When was the last time you heard the phrase Beer Joint?

I did a double take. Even the dives I last frequented up in Nebraska were called "pubs" or "bars".

That takes me back to the fifties!

Where was all this outrage when Warren hosted the Presidential candidate forum?

/I don't get it

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

None of that for me. That's so passe, so neo-victorian.
/

I like the neo-victorian thing!

And, at some time, I hope to have the funding to indulge in it, again.

re: #51 Dianna

I'm resisting clicking, because I know I'll regret it.

Does he even have pecs?

He's got a decent body. As a middle-aged guy, he's slightly beginning to need a manssiere.

/and his confident smile and kind eyes are an inspiration to us all...

re: #147 jwb7605

For those of you who listened to/watched the entire video:

When was the last time you heard the phrase Beer Joint?

I did a double take. Even the dives I last frequented up in Nebraska were called "pubs" or "bars".

That takes me back to the fifties!

Juke joint ...

re: #147 jwb7605

In the South, beer joints are common because it used to be that was the only kind of alcohol you could get, due to the lack of liquor licenses. Blue laws in Red States.

re: #146 Dianna

Not me, true.

How many Lizards are not celebrating Christmas, either for religious reasons, finances, just not into it, no family or friends, whatever.

re: #146 Dianna

Not me, true.

Many "not me's" here, some of us for decades.

re: #144 Fat Jolly Penguin

Obama Playing Cards for The Masses

Ten of Spades pretty much nails it. (click for the full deck)

re: #153 Walter L. Newton

How many Lizards are not celebrating Christmas, either for religious reasons, finances, just not into it, no family or friends, whatever.

Much of the above.

re: #81 Alouette

I don't know Alouette...if I were a fish, I'd jump on that hook!
Too bad it's Putin thou..can we put a bag just over his soul ?

re: #153 Walter L. Newton

How many Lizards are not celebrating Christmas, either for religious reasons, finances, just not into it, no family or friends, whatever.

I'm a pagan type, but I adore Christmas. I love Christmas carols, pageants, presents and lights.

re: #152 rawmuse

In the South, beer joints are common because it used to be that was the only kind of alcohol you could get, due to the lack of liquor licenses. Blue laws in Red States.

We had Blue Laws back in Massachusetts also. No liquor sales AT ALL , ALL day Sunday,, ANYWHERE

my life revolves around laying in firewood...getting water to my orchard...trying to stay warm in my bunkhouse...I post alot now because I'm recovering from a massive injury to my leg....I dont know much about television or hollywood movies...my time is spent dodging the Feds and taking care of myself...I'm out of the entertainment loop...I come to LGF to get enlightened...I'm a harmless guy and have no beef with anyone no matter their point of view...rawmuse wants me deleted...so be it...CJ makes those choices...sexual inuendo gets old real fast especially when it's the same few posters...I just like the banter and try not to judge anyone...if they persist I might say something...I'm a rube but I'm an honest rube...

re: #147 jwb7605

When was the last time you heard the phrase Beer Joint?

Ha!

/e have a bar called The Joint

re: #152 rawmuse

In the South, beer joints are common because it used to be that was the only kind of alcohol you could get, due to the lack of liquor licenses. Blue laws in Red States.

Really?
Might have to visit the south, sometime soon.

re: #94 Dianna

chapman
fast car

re: #149 Dianna

I like the neo-victorian thing!

And, at some time, I hope to have the funding to indulge in it, again.

I like the Rubenesque body type, in general I like a curvy woman. One of the actress' in The Last Leaf was that victorian curvy type, looked great in the period blouse and dress she had on. If she wasn't only 26, I would have asked her out.

Speaking of his conifdent smile and kind eyes, I've been watching waaay too much tv as I've tried to recover from this pneumonia, and I thought I was having a fever dream when I saw this commercial:

Montel Williams, pimping a commemorative coin with Obama and George Washington, another coin with Obama and JFK, a Hawaii quarter with Obama's face, and something else.

I know Obama's got nothing to do with this worship, but my respect for him would go up if he'd publicly say that this is getting a little out of hand for a guy who hasn't even been inaugurated yet.

It makes me more and more sure that I'm going on vacation on Inauguration Day to a place without a television. I frankly find this worship creepy.

re: #142 Dianna

Quite right, I think.

What I love are those moments when you are standing on the precipice of doing something you bloody well know you shouldn't, and you ask a friend's advice, and they tell you what you already know, and you still get mad.

Actually, I don't do that. If I know I'm making a bad decision, but I'm decided already, I avoid asking advice.

This explains many of my "splat" moments.

Exactly- I had someone once avoid telling me something until after the fact because she knew damn good and well I would have told her not to do it had she asked me beforehand.

I think people usually seek out a second opinion on advice when they want to hear their bad decision will somehow work out alright. It's not often people need advice when they know their decision is good and sound as it's usually self-evident.

re: #161 Killian Bundy

Ha!

/e have a bar called The Joint

Apparently I have acquired far too much refinement in my hobnobbing with the upper crust.

re: #164 Walter L. Newton

I like the Rubenesque body type, in general I like a curvy woman. One of the actress' in The Last Leaf was that victorian curvy type, looked great in the period blouse and dress she had on. If she wasn't only 26, I would have asked her out.

You don't date babies either?
... long story about that ...

Good on you!

re: #167 jwb7605

Apparently I have acquired far too much refinement in my hobnobbing with the upper crust.

Next time you're in the area, stop by.

/careful with the bikers though

re: #164 Walter L. Newton

I like the Rubenesque body type, in general I like a curvy woman. One of the actress' in The Last Leaf was that victorian curvy type, looked great in the period blouse and dress she had on. If she wasn't only 26, I would have asked her out.

asked her out of what? the period blouse and dress she had on !?!?!?!

There aer 666 posts in the last thread ...somebody go post over there and change it ...I am skeered ...

re: #159 sattv4u2

We had Blue Laws back in Massachusetts also. No liquor sales AT ALL , ALL day Sunday,, ANYWHERE

Hey Satt, they changed that a few years ago, the liquor stores now open at 12 noon on Sunday, NH was getting all that revenue, and they finally smartened up.

re: #148 Killian Bundy

I'm a little confused too. It's interesting to watch though. Where is all this outrage headed?

re: #172 CapeCoddah

Hey Satt, they changed that a few years ago, the liquor stores now open at 12 noon on Sunday, NH was getting all that revenue, and they finally smartened up.

yes ,, I know ,, I meant to type "back when I was younger there" ,, and ,,, "to beat it we just stocked up on Saturdays or drove up to NH

re: #166 Sharmuta

Ah, yes.

Though there is that marvellous moment when, just to be sure you haven't completely lost your mind, you ask advice, and a friend assures you it's the right decision.

Especially when it's one that hurts.

re: #169 Killian Bundy

Next time you're in the area, stop by.

/careful with the bikers though

I have yet to visit a biker bar and feel unwelcome.
I even used to know this guy named "Tiny" (yup, 300 lbs).
My brother in law introduced me to him.
The two told me the story about why my brother in law's knuckles were up near his wrist.

Good people. Really.

re: #153 Walter L. Newton

How many Lizards are not celebrating Christmas, either for religious reasons, finances, just not into it, no family or friends, whatever.

Well, to answer my own question. My girlfriend, Sylvia, who is 58, lost her husband three years ago, and her life went downhill from there. Her hold career had to be put on hold, she lost many clients and now she is working retail in a shop she use to sell to. So, on the finance side, not a lot of cheer.

And I'm a 56 year old starving theatre person, so we are not doing anything fancy, no tree, no decorations. I made a few extra dollars this week fixing a programmer task at Kaiser, so that was sort of a Christmas bonus, and I spent it on her.

We are going to try to get in all 21 episodes of season one of LOST. She has fallen in love with it, but she is 4 seasons behind and the 5th season starts on Jan 21st.

I'm going to try to get her caught up somehow, without camping in front of the TV for the next 30 days.

Merry Christmas.

re: #118 Walter L. Newton

*whack*

Ambiguous.

re: #169 Killian Bundy

Next time you're in the area, stop by.

/careful with the bikers though

Summers on the patio are best.

re: #168 jwb7605

You don't date babies either?
... long story about that ...

Good on you!

I don't understand you answer. And I will assume it's humor that I am not getting. RIght?

re: #153 Walter L. Newton

How many Lizards are not celebrating Christmas, either for religious reasons, finances, just not into it, no family or friends, whatever.

Ah, heck, we got the full deal goin' on here, bro'. Wish you were here.

re: #173 Killgore Trout

I'm a little confused too. It's interesting to watch though. Where is all this outrage headed?

It's the ultimate sin for the left: hypocrisy.

Me? I don't particularly care about Rick Warren. Though I'm glad that he wrote his book, since it seems to have saved the life of a woman kidnapped by a murderous thug.

For that, and that alone, I'll credit him with decent intent and some meaning.

re: #178 taxfreekiller

What? Oh, dear, I'm sorry to read that.

Christmas plans...

I was heading down to L.A. to see family and friends, but I now seem to be fighting off some sort of cold or flu. Driving hundreds of miles in stormy weather, and then bouncing around various social engagements in a strange city, is not my idea of a good path to recovery. So it's looking like I might have the first Christmas alone in my 48 years.

re: #26 David IV of Georgia

If Obama gets me a unicorn that farts rainbows, it'll probably be three legged and orange and the rainbow will be missing a few colors.

That's only because Bush screwed up the economy and some of them other colors is expensive. Don't even talk to me about Unicorn legs. :)

re: #182 rawmuse

Ah, heck, we got the full deal goin' on here, bro'. Wish you were here.

Thanks for the thought. I may have to invite you my way after Jan. 1st. Hope something pops up for you.

I have had my fair share of gigs this December, better than most.
But I have still been playing in the BART stations, solo, and not for money.
Got to keep in touch with my roots.

re: #185 mikalm

Christmas plans...

I was heading down to L.A. to see family and friends, but I now seem to be fighting off some sort of cold or flu. Driving hundreds of miles in stormy weather, and then bouncing around various social engagements in a strange city, is not my idea of a good path to recovery. So it's looking like I might have the first Christmas alone in my 48 years.

My mom's stuck in So Cal alone, and I'm not happy about it - if you're willing to keep me awake, I'll drive.

re: #178 taxfreekiller

Heard about that on the news here, tfk. Wonder what got it started?

re: #185 mikalm

Christmas plans...

I was heading down to L.A. to see family and friends, but I now seem to be fighting off some sort of cold or flu. Driving hundreds of miles in stormy weather, and then bouncing around various social engagements in a strange city, is not my idea of a good path to recovery. So it's looking like I might have the first Christmas alone in my 48 years.

join the crowd...in spirit anyway!...

Warren can believe anything he wants as far as I'm concerned. If he'll compromise his principles for Obama, however, he'll compromise them for anyone.

...and, for what it's worth, Sam Shepard playing Chuck Yeager in "The Right Stuff" is teh hotness.

/on AMC right now

re: #188 rawmuse

I have had my fair share of gigs this December, better than most.
But I have still been playing in the BART stations, solo, and not for money.
Got to keep in touch with my roots.

Which ones? I'll drop by!

re: #189 Dianna

My mom's stuck in So Cal alone, and I'm not happy about it - if you're willing to keep me awake, I'll drive.

Aw, thanks Dianna! But I'll have to pass. Something in my body and mind is telling me it might be better to stay in the Bay Area this Christmas.

re: #192 quickjustice

Warren can believe anything he wants as far as I'm concerned. If he'll compromise his principles for Obama, however, he'll compromise them for anyone.

I think Warren found his new Messiah-King.

re: #194 Dianna

Which ones? I'll drop by!

I have been doing either Montgomery or Civic Center.
Powell is too crazy.

re: #194 Dianna

Which ones? I'll drop by!

Me too!

re: #185 mikalm

Christmas plans...

I was heading down to L.A. to see family and friends, but I now seem to be fighting off some sort of cold or flu. Driving hundreds of miles in stormy weather, and then bouncing around various social engagements in a strange city, is not my idea of a good path to recovery. So it's looking like I might have the first Christmas alone in my 48 years.

I don't celebrate Christmas per se, but Dec. 25 is my dad's birthday and he is going to be 90. I am heading to L.A. with 6 of my kids (3 can't make it due to extreme distance, and pregnancy).

re: #180 Noam Sayin'

Summers on the patio are best.

/brats and other sausages on the outdoor grill!

re: #198 rawmuse

A song for RawMuse, and all buskers.

re: #196 mikalm

Aw, thanks Dianna! But I'll have to pass. Something in my body and mind is telling me it might be better to stay in the Bay Area this Christmas.

If you say so. Just email if you change your mind.

I miss my mom, but I won't drive alone in weather like this, and my Male can't get loose.

re: #181 Walter L. Newton

I don't understand you answer. And I will assume it's humor that I am not getting. RIght?

Kind of.
I used to work in a medical X-Ray field service job with this retired sailor ... he was 55 at the time.
During a performance review, he got accused of trying to put the make on a young (25 yr old) employee at a hospital in Casper, Wyoming.

He stood up, looked the supervisor right in the eye (in front of me and another service engineer) and said "I don't date babies, goddammit. Get that straight. Now if you want to accuse me of trying for Mary, that's another matter, but it's still none of your f*cking business."
Mary was 50 years old. Three years later, this guy quit, moved to Montana, and took Mary with him.

I always looked up to him, especially for the attitude and honesty.
He'd be close to 90 years old by now. I hope the both of them are still alive and enjoying each other.

re: #68 Walter L. Newton

I have some pictures of her (NSFW)...

[Link: www.francesfarmersrevenge.com...]

posting this is really distasteful SHAME ON YOU.

Anyone wanting a White Christmas can come and get as much snow as they want from up in the cold white Northwest...

re: #198 rawmuse

I have been doing either Montgomery or Civic Center.
Powell is too crazy.

What time at Montgomery? I usually pass through around 3:45, and I know I haven't seen you.

OK, well, I'm off the rest of this week and most of next, but still!

re: #201 Killian Bundy

/brats and other sausages on the outdoor grill!

camp taters and sweet corn...maybe some Red Stripe....mmmm!...
(Walter are you listening?)

re: #192 quickjustice

re: #197 FurryOldGuyJeans

I'm holding of judgement and not throwing him under the bus until I hear Warrens invocation during the Inaguration. I think Warren did a pretty good job during Saddleback, with the only negative being he didn't follow up enough on vague answers (probably due to him having X amount of questions he wanted to ask and X amount of time to get them all in)

re: #153 Walter L. Newton

How many Lizards are not celebrating Christmas, either for religious reasons, finances, just not into it, no family or friends, whatever.

I might get a little extra drunk, or sleep by the fire, or cook some food but most people would probably not view my Christmas as a "celebration". I'll probably work, post on LGF and scrub the toilet. My situation is unique; every day is a holiday or a weekend to me. I've been self employed long enough that it seems odd to value one day more than the next at this point.

re: #198 rawmuse

I have been doing either Montgomery or Civic Center.
Powell is too crazy.

If I can hack the CCTV at Montgomery, I'll look in on you.

re: #205 yochanan

posting this is really distasteful SHAME ON YOU.

Hey, there was a "not safe for work" tag on there. That should have been all you needed to know about the possible content of the link. I'm not your babysitter.

re: #205 yochanan

posting this is really distasteful SHAME ON YOU.

agreed ...there is no shame on the internet....

re: #210 Killgore Trout

I might get a little extra drunk, or sleep by the fire, or cook some food but most people would probably not view my Christmas as a "celebration". I'll probably work, post on LGF and scrub the toilet. My situation is unique; every day is a holiday or a weekend to me. I've been self employed long enough that it seems odd to value one day more than the next at this point.

Please remember that we're keeping open house, if you suddenly have an urge for company. I swear, you'd have a great time.

re: #204 jwb7605

The rule I heard for men was, "Take your age, and divide it by two. Then add seven. That should be the absolute minimum age of any woman you date."

re: #202 mikalm

That is terrific! Thanks a bunch.
I feel lucky. I can blow through an indeterminate length of brass tubing and convert it in to cash. That is as close to alchemy as I will ever get.

re: #209 sattv4u2

I'm holding of judgement and not throwing him under the bus until I hear Warrens invocation during the Inaguration. I think Warren did a pretty good job during Saddleback, with the only negative being he didn't follow up enough on vague answers (probably due to him having X amount of questions he wanted to ask and X amount of time to get them all in)

That is your right but I have seen more than enough evidence to convince me that he is playing fast and loose with the truth, as well as emulating the President Elect in scrubbing one's website of anything that might be "controversial".

re: #210 Killgore Trout

I might get a little extra drunk, or sleep by the fire, or cook some food but most people would probably not view my Christmas as a "celebration". I'll probably work, post on LGF and scrub the toilet. My situation is unique; every day is a holiday or a weekend to me. I've been self employed long enough that it seems odd to value one day more than the next at this point.

whatever....same here exactly...Merry Christmas KT....for what it's worth...heh

re: #217 FurryOldGuyJeans

That is your right but I have seen more than enough evidence to convince me that he is playing fast and loose with the truth, as well as emulating the President Elect in scrubbing one's website of anything that might be "controversial".

example, please

re: #219 sattv4u2

example, please

Last thread on Church beliefs.

re: #210 Killgore Trout

My situation is unique; every day is a holiday or a weekend to me. I've been self employed long enough that it seems odd to value one day more than the next at this point.

Ah, I remember those happy days of self-employment. I surely wish I can find a new gig like that; although I have a corporate day job now, I can't help from feeling that it's stealing tiny bits of my soul, one day at a time.

re: #210 Killgore Trout

I might get a little extra drunk, or sleep by the fire, or cook some food but most people would probably not view my Christmas as a "celebration". I'll probably work, post on LGF and scrub the toilet. My situation is unique; every day is a holiday or a weekend to me. I've been self employed long enough that it seems odd to value one day more than the next at this point.

I know what you mean. I have some set in stone schedule. Most Friday, Saturday and Sundays evenings, I'm at the theatre. But all the other time, I may be doing a little programming for Kaiser, writing, sometimes I do home visits for computer problems, like semi-retired.

I only have one brother, he lives somewhere in the Denver area (he moved, I haven't called to find out his new address).

So, days come and go on my pace. And special days are not special unless I make them that way, so it's my call.

re: #215 mikalm

The rule I heard for men was, "Take your age, and divide it by two. Then add seven. That should be the absolute minimum age of any woman you date."

Sounds perfectly reasonable.
For some stupid reason, I am still attracted to "older women".
My wife, in fact, is a year older than me.
At a party about a month ago, somebody found out that fact.
I am now known as my wife's "boy toy".
This is from a bunch of women about 30 years old. Funny!

re: #205 yochanan

posting this is really distasteful SHAME ON YOU.

distasteful and gratuitous.

Dr. Laura was young once (as were many of us), and did not make the best decisions about her life (as did many of us), and her mistakes and bad decisions led her to where she is today (as similar mistakes and bad decisions have led some of us to where we are today), and whether one likes her or not (and I happen to like her for her apparent sincerity and consistency), she is a better person today than she was then (as are many of us).

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

It was Dr. Laura.

THIS IS THE SORT OF THING YOU WOULD SEE AT THE DAILY KOS. REALLY YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO BRING THIS SORT OF FILTH INTO CHARLES PLACE and yes the caps were used to express distaste.

re: #214 Dianna

Thanks for the offer.

re: #226 Killgore Trout

Thanks for the offer.

Any time. I swear, you'd have a blast.

re: #215 mikalm

The rule I heard for men was, "Take your age, and divide it by two. Then add seven. That should be the absolute minimum age of any woman you date."

So, that would make my minimum 30. Hey, I can deal with that. Two summers ago I had a two month fling with a 28 year old.

re: #223 jwb7605

The longest relationship I ever had in my life was with a woman 17 years my senior. When we met, I was 26 and she was (a well-preserved) 43.

re: #221 mikalm

Heh. Most most often recurring nightmare involves getting a "job". Seriously, I wake up in a panic.

re: #212 Walter L. Newton

you don't get it it reflects on charles place and it relfects on you in your case maybe there isn't any hope but it is disrespectful to show such stuff. esp since the post was put up to begin with to show hatered and libel to the poor woman.

re: #220 FurryOldGuyJeans

Last thread on Church beliefs.

Sorry, but I just don't see eliminating controversial policy statements on his web site as "playing fast and loose with the truth". Now, if he were to come out and state those things were never ON his policy statements I would agree with you. Has he ?

re: #230 Killgore Trout

Heh. Most most often recurring nightmare involves getting a "job". Seriously, I wake up in a panic.

HA!...truely my brother in this regard...I know that panic well...as the day goes by you feel somewhat ahead of it and ready to take on another day yes?...dont try to fool me...namaste

re: #230 Killgore Trout

Heh. Most most often recurring nightmare involves getting a "job". Seriously, I wake up in a panic.

Another workplace square peg!

For some odd reason, my recurring unpleasant dream (not intense enough to be a "nightmare") is the classic one about being in college, needing one last class to graduate, and realizing that I had never been in that class, and that finals are tomorrow.

re: #232 ploome hineni

ya cannot make a silk purse, touts

In this particular case, all I can say is, "none of my business." Really.

Is there really anyone who hasn't done things they ought not to have?

re: #210 Killgore Trout

I was self empoyed for over 20 years. ,

As a great book stated,

They were the best of times, they were the worst of times!

re: #231 yochanan

you don't get it it reflects on charles place and it relfects on you in your case maybe there isn't any hope but it is disrespectful to show such stuff. esp since the post was put up to begin with to show hatered and libel to the poor woman.

I thought the pics were rather sweet.

It's not like she's doing things with a donkey.

re: #233 ploome hineni

because if i remain silent if the face of filth it implies acceptance.

re: #225 yochanan

THIS IS THE SORT OF THING YOU WOULD SEE AT THE DAILY KOS. REALLY YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO BRING THIS SORT OF FILTH INTO CHARLES PLACE and yes the caps were used to express distaste.

Hey Yochy. Have you noticed that most of the Lizards here are grown up, adult types, who are very capable of dealing or not dealing with different levels of people. It's sort of like being at work, you know, you have the jokers, the serious worker, the chatty workers, the flirty men and women, the whole magilla.

So, good luck on trying to clean out all the people you don't like, but I think you are waging a loosing battle.

Is he serious, or am I missing something.

re: #232 ploome hineni

ya cannot make a silk purse, touts

you think not?
I don't know.

re: #234 sattv4u2

Sorry, but I just don't see eliminating controversial policy statements on his web site as "playing fast and loose with the truth". Now, if he were to come out and state those things were never ON his policy statements I would agree with you. Has he ?

Hiding something as fundamental as Church beliefs for me is playing fast and loose with the truth....ok? My opinion, nothing else.

re: #229 mikalm

The longest relationship I ever had in my life was with a woman 17 years my senior. When we met, I was 26 and she was (a well-preserved) 43.

Longest relationship I've had with an older woman lasted 37 years this last October.
I'm going to try to make Paul Harvey someday.

re: #239 ryannon

they were not put up there with her permission.

re: #232 ploome hineni

ya cannot make a silk purse, touts

Why not ?

I have a SOWS EAR

I have unlimited internet resources !

re: #215 mikalm

The rule I heard for men was, "Take your age, and divide it by two. Then add seven. That should be the absolute minimum age of any woman you date."

Seems about right to me. I'm married so I don't date, but my best friend and casino companion is a 37 year old married gal.My 66/2 +7 would be 40. We get along just fine.

are people who believe in religion supposed to feel unwelcome? lately i notice a change in regard to this.

re: #237 Dianna

In this particular case, all I can say is, "none of my business." Really.

Is there really anyone who hasn't done things they ought not to have?

I know I've done things I ought not to have done.
Mostly when I was young and stupid.
And as I suffered from bad decisions and reflected upon them, I got to where I had the strength of conviction and the moral character to make better decisions. Some people come to that place earlier in life than others.

re: #247 ploome hineni

the reference was not about Dr Laura, whom I don;t really like anyway

Oh, all right. I honestly thought it was about her, and those pictures.

re: #236 mikalm

Being self employed takes a certain mentality, and I am not even sure that I have it, even after decades of mostly self employment.

It is like dancing on a cornice of a 12 story building.

re: #243 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hiding something as fundamental as Church beliefs for me is playing fast and loose with the truth....ok? My opinion, nothing else.

It may be your opinion, but it's hard to argue with.
upding on ya. take that. so there.

re: #249 yochanan

are people who believe in religion supposed to feel unwelcome? lately i notice a change in regard to this.

No.

re: #239 ryannon

I thought the pics were rather sweet.

It's not like she's doing things with a donkey.

Agreed. They show a pretty woman, with a nice body. But the reason the pics got circulated a few years' back was to hurt and embarass Dr. Laura. Personally, I have little use for her, but I did think the whole episode showed a serious lack of class on the part of the people who gleefully spread the photos around.

re: #247 ploome hineni

the reference was not about Dr Laura, whom I don;t really like anyway

Ah.
I too thought you were talking about Dr. Laura.

re: #241 Walter L. Newton