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Open | Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:24:30 pm PST

Only in our dreams are we free. The rest of the time we need wages.

Terry Pratchett

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1 jcm  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:26:56pm
2 Cheechako  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:29:59pm

Good evening Lizards. Special treat tonight. There's chocolate birthday cake on the side table. Help yourself.

3 x-wing  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:30:06pm

Monday night drinking thread..wooo-hooo.

Beautiful pic. there jcm.

4 x-wing  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:31:35pm

re: #2 Cheechako

Good evening Lizards. Special treat tonight. There's chocolate birthday cake on the side table. Help yourself.


Please tell me it has peanut butter icing.

/smacking lips with fork in hand

5 StudSupreme  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:33:21pm

Looking forward to Christmas.

I've come to LOVE this time of year.

A special treat for the Lizards:

WARNING: it's really beautiful. In fact, I actually blubber when I hear it. Yes, I know, that's pathetic. :-)

6 Pietr  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:33:52pm

re: #1 jcm

Someone took a lot of time to care for that sleigh. Thanks, JCM.

7 Cheechako  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:35:15pm

re: #4 x-wing

Sorry, it's white frosting.

8 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:36:40pm

re: #1 jcm

SMACK!

9 Killian Bundy  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:38:32pm

How To Configure and Use Text-to-Speech in Windows XP

/Start/Programs/Accessories/Accessibility/Narrator

10 Pietr  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:39:18pm

re: #5 StudSupreme


I posted this the other night. Was a soprano soloist until my voice changed, and sang this every Christmas-it always teared me up. From the Hitman

11 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:40:22pm
12 x-wing  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:40:41pm

re: #7 Cheechako

Sorry, it's white frosting.

Is it ok if I only take two pieces then?

13 BlueCanuck  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:41:15pm

re: #9 Killian Bundy

Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately my mom still uses Win2K.

/it serves all her needs and runs most of the programs she wants.

14 Killian Bundy  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:42:03pm

re: #13 BlueCanuck

Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately my mom still uses Win2K.

/it serves all her needs and runs most of the programs she wants.

/it's probably on that version too, look for it

15 x-wing  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:42:35pm

re: #5 StudSupreme

Beautiful rendition, but she looked like Tipper Gore.

/not that there's anything wrong with that.

16 Pietr  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:43:09pm

re: #8 redc1c4

Dang it, Red. Did you come in riled, or what. All these 1 word link/posts....Hmmmm.

17 jcm  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:43:14pm

re: #9 Killian Bundy

How To Configure and Use Text-to-Speech in Windows XP

/Start/Programs/Accessories/Accessibility/Narrator

Saw that last thread, thanks, will make sure RW sees it in the morning.

18 DistantThunder  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:43:28pm

Those who know how to hunt, gather and store up, need a minimum of wages.

19 Cheechako  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:44:04pm

re: #12 x-wing

Sure, it's got to be finished off this evening.

20 Cygnus  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:45:58pm

re: #1 jcm

Fun in the snow!

Great pics. How much do you have at your place?

21 x-wing  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:46:43pm

re: #10 Pietr

I posted this the other night. Was a soprano soloist until my voice changed, and sang this every Christmas-it always teared me up. From the Hitman

Wow, how old were you when your voice changed? Thems some pretty high notes to hit.

Very beautiful song though.

22 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:48:09pm

re: #10 Pietr

I posted this the other night. Was a soprano soloist until my voice changed, and sang this every Christmas-it always teared me up. From the Hitman

in the spirits of the season, i'll only post this as a rebuttal view.....

/i'll keep the Fear song as an area reserve, for now.

and a hearty 'Humbug' to one and all.... %-)

23 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:48:27pm

Merry Christmas from Bailey the Unknown Reindeer


24 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:49:03pm

re: #13 BlueCanuck

Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately my mom still uses Win2K.

/it serves all her needs and runs most of the programs she wants.

nothing wrong with W2K..... they don't write bugs for it, for one.

%-)

25 DistantThunder  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:49:41pm

Saturday I attended the Diving Performing ARts Chinese Dance Group in Philly. They support Falun Gong - the oppressed religious movement in China.

This stop was part of their 20 country world tour. It was spectacular and I highly recommend it. Here is a preview.

[Link: www.divineshows.com...]

26 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:50:19pm

re: #12 x-wing

Is it ok if I only take two pieces then?

anyone for German Chocolate with brown sugar frosting?

/i mean, if'n yer gonna get fat and go diabetic..... %-)

27 Pietr  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:51:40pm

re: #21 x-wing


That would've been around age 12, elementary school. (Class of '65, for high school).

28 jcm  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:51:57pm

re: #20 Cygnus

Great pics. How much do you have at your place?

16", we had 12" inches our so about 18 years ago. Usually in Seattle we get cold and dry, then when wet and warm moves in we get snow followed by rain. Seldom do we get snow on the ground for more than a few days. This is five days now of snow and below freezing. Had to go out today, freeways are clear, but even the main streets are packed snow and ice.

29 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:53:04pm

re: #16 Pietr

Dang it, Red. Did you come in riled, or what. All these 1 word link/posts....Hmmmm.

i was inflicted grumpy to start, and i've had to deal with people ever since.
all things considered, i'm a freaking diplomat.

have some damn fruitcup squeezins and chill.

/white smoke

30 x-wing  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:54:01pm

re: #26 redc1c4

anyone for German Chocolate with brown sugar frosting?

/i mean, if'n yer gonna get fat and go diabetic..... %-)

I'm all in buddy. You got anything to chase it wit? And got off the un- Christmas wagon, it's only two days away. ;>}~

31 DistantThunder  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:54:20pm

re: #28 jcm

16", we had 12" inches our so about 18 years ago. Usually in Seattle we get cold and dry, then when wet and warm moves in we get snow followed by rain. Seldom do we get snow on the ground for more than a few days. This is five days now of snow and below freezing. Had to go out today, freeways are clear, but even the main streets are packed snow and ice.

Dang - a what point do global warming zombies' heads just burst from the cognitive dissonance?

32 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:54:47pm

Bagpipes on a Police Budget


33 DistantThunder  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:56:23pm

I'm up at 3am here in south Jersey waiting for the Australian Kiwi cheesecake to come out of the oven (I know kiwis come from New Zealand, but I'm just following the recipe.) My 10 year old Hayden has to bring an Australian dish to school tomorrow for International Day.

34 shanec99  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:56:36pm

re: #4 x-wing

Please tell me it has peanut butter icing.

/smacking lips with fork in hand

A pox on your house, I am trying to lose weight.

35 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:57:42pm

re: #28 jcm

16", we had 12" inches our so about 18 years ago. Usually in Seattle we get cold and dry, then when wet and warm moves in we get snow followed by rain. Seldom do we get snow on the ground for more than a few days. This is five days now of snow and below freezing. Had to go out today, freeways are clear, but even the main streets are packed snow and ice.

my aunt is in Tacoma.... ahe's going stir crazy stuck in the house.

if she starts outside, her (mostly gay) neighbors yell at her to stay in and not take a chance slipping and falling.

we're gonna have to take a trip up there this year, should it ever thaw.

36 jcm  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:59:48pm

re: #31 DistantThunder

Dang - a what point do global warming zombies' heads just burst from the cognitive dissonance?

It's caused by Global Warming, didn't you get the memo? Then they'll decides it's Climate Change which is less confusing....

With that it's midnight and I turn into a pumpkin!

Stay warm!

37 x-wing  Mon, Dec 22, 2008 11:59:58pm

re: #27 Pietr

That would've been around age 12, elementary school. (Class of '65, for high school).

1965. That was a good year...the year I was born.

I was gonna say, unless you were castrated by the Catholic Church (that is not a slam to the Church, it's just what I heard they did to their choir boys, I may have heard wrong), you'd have to be really young to sing that high.

38 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:01:01am

re: #30 x-wing

I'm all in buddy. You got anything to chase it wit? And got off the un- Christmas wagon, it's only two days away. ;>}~

the local Trader Joes has this "Cream Top" milk...... pasteurized, but *not* homogenized and it retains the fat content of whole milk, as it comes from the cow.

take that with your pie or cake.......

(you can unlog your arteries the rest of the year. %-)

39 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:01:59am

re: #29 redc1c4

i was inflicted grumpy to start, and i've had to deal with people ever since.
all things considered, i'm a freaking diplomat.

have some damn fruitcup squeezins and chill.

/white smoke

Looks like someone's got a case of The Mondays.

/blue smoke

40 Cheechako  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:02:01am

re: #34 shanec99

Me to. That's why it has to disappear tonight.

41 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:02:38am

re: #34 shanec99

A pox on your house, I am trying to lose weight.

Sucks to be you ;>}

/white smoke

42 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:03:35am

re: #33 DistantThunder

I'm up at 3am here in south Jersey waiting for the Australian Kiwi cheesecake to come out of the oven (I know kiwis come from New Zealand, but I'm just following the recipe.) My 10 year old Hayden has to bring an Australian dish to school tomorrow for International Day.

i would have brought something American, since we're all from someplace else to begin with. what bollocks.

43 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:05:14am

re: #37 x-wing


In the days of the Borgias, they did neuter a top boy soprano-attempting to preserve a beautiful soprano voice. It didn't always work! Fortunately, times have changed, so the church let me keep mine....LOL.

44 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:06:10am

re: #35 redc1c4

my aunt is in Tacoma.... ahe's going stir crazy stuck in the house.

if she starts outside, her (mostly gay) neighbors yell at her to stay in and not take a chance slipping and falling.

we're gonna have to take a trip up there this year, should it ever thaw.

These neighbors?

45 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:06:10am

Just in time for Christmas!
It is the Dysfunctional Family Letter Generator.

46 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:06:45am

re: #41 x-wing

Sucks to be you ;>}

/white smoke


Wont do any sucking, slurping, licking or chewing if it is not on my diet!

47 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:07:33am

re: #46 shanec99

Wont do any sucking, slurping, licking or chewing if it is not on my diet!

Not gonna touch this.

48 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:07:34am

re: #24 redc1c4

nothing wrong with W2K..... they don't write bugs for it, for one.

%-)

I am a big believer of if it ain't broke don't fix it. Only upgrade OS's when I buy a new computer.

/usually once every 4-5 years.

49 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:08:06am

re: #43 Pietr

In the days of the Borgias, they did neuter a top boy soprano-attempting to preserve a beautiful soprano voice. It didn't always work! Fortunately, times have changed, so the church let me keep mine....LOL.

Thank God for that. I take it you have no recording available of your rendition to Ave Marie?

50 Dustyvet  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:10:56am
51 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:12:40am

re: #47 Sharmuta

Not gonna touch this.


Sharm. I got that "did you was your hands" post to me earlier, but had to go to work. So.. ha ha.

/my brain doesn't as fast as it used too. but I refuse to blame it on the beer.

52 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:13:37am

re: #49 x-wing


They did record my final performance-our church made a record. We couldn't afford 1 at the time. Once out on my own, I've made enquiries back to the parish, and family...sadly unable to locate a copy. Would love to listen to it-I've never actually heard myself sing, as others do. I only know that it sounded right to me, and I put my heart iin it.

53 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:15:49am

re: #39 Sharmuta

Looks like someone's got a case of The Mondays.

/blue smoke

don't know how to break this to you cutie, but i'm always this way..... the only days of the week are monday and fryday the 13th, and neither one has to fall on those days, so, like a lot of people, i don't like mondays

you can call it stormy monday, but tuesday's just as bad....

at least the eagle flies on fryday!
(some weeks %-(

54 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:16:04am

re: #52 Pietr

They did record my final performance-our church made a record. We couldn't afford 1 at the time. Once out on my own, I've made enquiries back to the parish, and family...sadly unable to locate a copy. Would love to listen to it-I've never actually heard myself sing, as others do. I only know that it sounded right to me, and I put my heart iin it.

Well if you ever get a copy, please post it. I for one would like to hear it and tell you what I thought.

55 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:16:23am

re: #47 Sharmuta

Not gonna touch this.

Why? As long as it is not fattening or does not cause weight gain it should be safe.

56 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:16:42am

re: #46 shanec99

Wont do any sucking, slurping, licking or chewing if it is not on my diet!

white smoke is calorie free!

57 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:18:02am

re: #50 Dustyvet


[Link: www.youtube.com...]

You're making me cry. I love this one.

/what's everybody lookin' at?

58 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:19:07am

re: #56 redc1c4

white smoke is calorie free!


Yeah... but if the white smoke is from a ganga pipe I hear it causes you to get the munchies.

59 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:19:08am

re: #54 x-wing

If I did find 1-I'd need to send it to be transferred from vinyl to digital first.....LOL.

60 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:21:20am

re: #44 x-wing

These neighbors?

[Link: uk.youtube.com...]

not sure, but when 2H6 and i were up there for her 80th, the only bar we could find near the church where it was being held was the local gay bar. nice folks to begin with, and when they found out why we were in town and where we were going, we were honored guests.

that's damn sight a better reception then i've gotten in many a straight bar.

anyone who honors the aged and respects their community is ok in my book.

61 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:22:14am

re: #47 Sharmuta

Not gonna touch this.

maybe just a taste?

/white smoke

62 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:26:14am

re: #59 Pietr

If I did find 1-I'd need to send it to be transferred from vinyl to digital first.....LOL.

Just give it to a 15 year old kid, they can do it.

63 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:27:57am

re: #51 x-wing

I thought it was funny- glad you liked it, even if later.

64 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:30:10am

re: #60 redc1c4

O.k. not up on the lingo. What is 2H6? And I'm glad you were received well.

What is on the bar list tonite?

65 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:37:32am

re: #63 Sharmuta

I thought it was funny- glad you liked it, even if later.

The first time I read it I was in the minute and all. And then I read it again and realized you boned me, but I didn't have time to respond. I love it here cause you guys kill me with your wit.

BTW, did you see that the Lizard rip-off site looks nothing like it did earlier today?

[Link: www.lessnau.com...]

66 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:37:37am

re: #64 x-wing

O.k. not up on the lingo. What is 2H6? And I'm glad you were received well.

What is on the bar list tonite?

'2H6' is a half assed attempt to replicated MILSPEC callsigns...

HouseHold 6 = 2H6 = Local Commander = HRH = etc....

as always, the bar list is "what's available"

/that's what happens when you put an E-4 Cav Trooper in charge

CHANGE!

67 Cheechako  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:41:16am

G'nite all.

68 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:43:54am

re: #66 redc1c4

Well, I've tried "what's available" a few times, but only after 3 a.m., and it's after three, so let's have at it.

And I'd rather have an E-4 Cav. Trooper in charge when the shit hits the fan anyways.

69 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:47:37am

re: #68 x-wing

Well, I've tried "what's available" a few times, but only after 3 a.m., and it's after three, so let's have at it.

And I'd rather have an E-4 Cav. Trooper in charge when the shit hits the fan anyways.

flattery will get you nowhere...................

/grabs the first bottle that comes to hand.

do you want a glass or a straw?

70 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:48:34am

re: #65 x-wing

re: #66 redc1c4

The wit on the site has always drawn me. And even tho I was here when Charles posted it, and tried to view-the leastknown site was crashed by the scaley attempts at viewing it...Heh Heh.

Re redcic4, x-wing, we have a bunch of vietnam, and later, era vets here. We do sometimes leave peeps in the dust when we use the jargon. And for redc1c4, I always leave the 'change' in the tip jar. A good bar must be complimented and encouraged....

/white smoke....

71 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:50:07am

re: #68 x-wing

Well, I've tried "what's available" a few times, but only after 3 a.m., and it's after three, so let's have at it.

And I'd rather have an E-4 Cav. Trooper in charge when the shit hits the fan anyways.

eh. Cav? Armor with puny tubes.

Red smoke
white smoke.

;-)>

72 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:50:46am

re: #69 redc1c4

flattery will get you nowhere...................

/grabs the first bottle that comes to hand.

do you want a glass or a straw?


We don't need no stinking glasses, hand me the straw.

/that didn't sound gay..did it

73 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:51:50am

re: #71 Outrider

Evening/Mornin' Outrider...still staying frosty?

74 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:52:19am

re: #70 Pietr

re: #66 redc1c4

The wit on the site has always drawn me. And even tho I was here when Charles posted it, and tried to view-the leastknown site was crashed by the scaley attempts at viewing it...Heh Heh.

Re redcic4, x-wing, we have a bunch of vietnam, and later, era vets here. We do sometimes leave peeps in the dust when we use the jargon. And for redc1c4, I always leave the 'change' in the tip jar. A good bar must be complimented and encouraged....

/white smoke....

the tip jar just goes to cover the tab at Fiddler's Green.....

/Scouts Out!

75 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:53:06am

re: #73 Pietr

Evening/Mornin' Outrider...still staying frosty?

we had been rather warm until the last night. We dropped to 35 so far - going to 21 they tell me. Then back up to 70. Good times.

You?

76 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:53:58am

re: #71 Outrider

eh. Cav? Armor with puny tubes.

Red smoke
white smoke.

;-)>

keep that up Top, and the TOC coffee pot will be filled with decaf......

77 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:55:03am

re: #71 Outrider

eh. Cav? Armor with puny tubes.

Red smoke
white smoke.

;-)>

He says while sitting in a lawn chair, five miles from the actually fight.

yellow smoke
white smoke
and
purple smoke

78 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:55:32am

re: #76 redc1c4

keep that up Top, and the TOC coffee pot will be filled with decaf......

decaf? uh....... I apologize for the unwarranted attack which impugned the ....uh caliber and size of a Cav trooper uh.... tube. Yeah. ;-)>

79 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:55:40am

re: #72 x-wing

We don't need no stinking glasses, hand me the straw.

/that didn't sound gay..did it

i was never Armor, so i'll have to take your and Outrider's word.......

(he never said "no" and you weren't sure...... %-)

80 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:57:52am

re: #77 x-wing

He says while sitting in a lawn chair, five miles from the actually fight.

yellow smoke
white smoke
and
purple smoke

(sile) that would have been nice. and a lawn chair to boot? Sounds like they have me being resupplied at an Armor unit eh? lol

81 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:58:10am

re: #75 Outrider


We're currently at 36F and dropping-and it started a fine misty drizzle about 15 minutes ago. I put an old cat carrier out for my feral mom and her 3 kittens yesterday-with a pillow and 1 of my old field jacket liners in it. Hopefully they stay dry-I know they'll stay warm; mom moved them right in.....:>)

82 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:58:59am

re: #70 Pietr

So you didn't see that site today?
Hopefully someone got a screen shot of it for Charles to put up again, and then show what it looks like now.

We lizards kick some serious ass, and I saw the results today.

83 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:59:13am

re: #78 Outrider

decaf? uh....... I apologize for the unwarranted attack which impugned the ....uh caliber and size of a Cav trooper uh.... tube. Yeah. ;-)>

no problem.... BTW: your vehicle was impounded at the MP checkpoint for services deficiencies. since all Class IX is on budget hold, you may not get your victor back in time for chow........ anytime this exercise.

what is your fall back position?

84 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 12:59:20am

re: #79 redc1c4

i was never Armor, so i'll have to take your and Outrider's word.......

(he never said "no" and you weren't sure...... %-)

The man is Armor. I was an 11B, 19D, and 05H (98Z).

There was no call for a denial necessary was there?

85 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:00:04am

re: #83 redc1c4

what is your fall back position?

Not gonna touch that.

86 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:00:44am

re: #81 Pietr

We're currently at 36F and dropping-and it started a fine misty drizzle about 15 minutes ago. I put an old cat carrier out for my feral mom and her 3 kittens yesterday-with a pillow and 1 of my old field jacket liners in it. Hopefully they stay dry-I know they'll stay warm; mom moved them right in.....:>)

personally I hate the cold. But how much further South can I go?

If it keeps getting colder, I'm hauling my butt back to Honduras. ;-)>

87 William  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:01:09am

An interesting video from a former liberal turned conservative after 9-11:

Evan Sayet: "How Modern Liberals Think"

88 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:02:01am

re: #82 x-wing

So you didn't see that site today?
Hopefully someone got a screen shot of it for Charles to put up again, and then show what it looks like now.

We lizards kick some serious ass, and I saw the results today.

same ting with Juggy's inaugural preacher..... we start talkin, shit starts disappearing........

89 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:02:05am

re: #83 redc1c4

no problem.... BTW: your vehicle was impounded at the MP checkpoint for services deficiencies. since all Class IX is on budget hold, you may not get your victor back in time for chow........ anytime this exercise.

what is your fall back position?

take someone else's. Take my stencil kit and can of spray paint and apply some new bumper markings and I'm golden.

90 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:03:23am

re: #88 redc1c4

same ting with Juggy's inaugural preacher..... we start talkin, shit starts disappearing........

LGF gets results.

91 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:04:47am

re: #90 Sharmuta

LGF gets results.

LGF sure does seem to be responsible for making a lot of on line sh*t disappear real quick, that's for sure. I still remember all the Chicago NPR archives going away within hours of Zombie mentioning them.

92 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:05:09am

re: #86 Outrider

I have gotten where I prefer being warm, as well....how about Panama?

Show redc1c4 your special orders-and EXPLAIN to him that if he isn't cleared and doesn't have JCS permission-any attempts to touch your vehicle will result in 'use of force'.....Heh.

/white smoke...

93 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:05:58am

re: #80 Outrider

(sile) that would have been nice. and a lawn chair to boot? Sounds like they have me being resupplied at an Armor unit eh? lol

What MOS were you Outrider. You may have said before, but I forget/forgot.

19E here M60 tanker.

/and I did blow alot of smoke. ;>}

94 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:06:47am

re: #92 Pietr

I have gotten where I prefer being warm, as well....how about Panama?

Show redc1c4 your special orders-and EXPLAIN to him that if he isn't cleared and doesn't have JCS permission-any attempts to touch your vehicle will result in 'use of force'.....Heh.

/white smoke...

last time I was through Panama, we weren't looked upon with favor. Things may have changed since?

95 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:09:24am

re: #84 Outrider

The man is Armor. I was an 11B, 19D, and 05H (98Z).

There was no call for a denial necessary was there?

chill Top....

96 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:09:36am

re: #93 x-wing

What MOS were you Outrider. You may have said before, but I forget/forgot.

19E here M60 tanker.

/and I did blow alot of smoke. ;>}

I started as an 05H (SigInt/EW), somehow got shifted over to 19D, volunteered for an 11B slot (Pathfinder). Then spent the remaining 16 years bouncing back and forth as 05H and 11B until I made 1SG when I became a 98Z. (Senior Intell Chief)

Convoluted eh?

97 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:10:09am

re: #95 redc1c4

chill Top....

chill? Hell, I'm freezing. lol ;-)>

98 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:10:28am

re: #85 Sharmuta

Not gonna touch that.

Can't touch this..

99 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:11:22am

re: #92 Pietr

I have gotten where I prefer being warm, as well....how about Panama?

Show redc1c4 your special orders-and EXPLAIN to him that if he isn't cleared and doesn't have JCS permission-any attempts to touch your vehicle will result in 'use of force'.....Heh.

/white smoke...

no habla senor.

100 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:13:44am

re: #90 Sharmuta

LGF gets results.

Sharm, please tell me what happened... I am unaware.

101 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:14:19am

re: #96 Outrider

I started as an 05H (SigInt/EW), somehow got shifted over to 19D, volunteered for an 11B slot (Pathfinder). Then spent the remaining 16 years bouncing back and forth as 05H and 11B until I made 1SG when I became a 98Z. (Senior Intell Chief)

Convoluted eh?

I'd say cool. 19D was cav. scout right? But yeah, you got bounced around pretty good. What years did you serve, cause when Igot out in '87 all the downsizing and moving around just started.

102 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:16:05am

re: #100 shanec99

Some jerk stole the copyrighted logo for the LGF Lizard Lounge and was using it on his site.

103 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:16:12am

re: #99 redc1c4


Ist Bin Auslander- Ist Bin Nicht Versctehen...

104 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:16:17am

re: #101 x-wing

I'd say cool. 19D was cav. scout right? But yeah, you got bounced around pretty good. What years did you serve, cause when Igot out in '87 all the downsizing and moving around just started.

72 - 93. In 87, I was down to Ft Hood.

105 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:17:22am

re: #99 redc1c4

no habla senor.


I tried the non palare routine with the Caribinieri in Italy, and well... he propmtly started speaking to me in English...damn if he didn't write me a citation and translate it in English and Italian.

106 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:17:37am

re: #103 Pietr

Ist Bin Auslander- Ist Bin Nicht Versctehen...

no comprende senor....... we are the Mountain Police.

107 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:17:47am

re: #102 Sharmuta

Some jerk stole the copyrighted logo for the LGF Lizard Lounge and was using it on his site.

that thing disappeared real quick. I'd like to see a screen shot of what it looked like before.

108 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:17:49am

re: #90 Sharmuta

Heh, that page is a 403 error now.

109 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:18:23am

re: #102 Sharmuta

Some jerk stole the copyrighted logo for the LGF Lizard Lounge and was using it on his site.


What did Charles do? Surely there are things he can do.

Was he using the logo to try to discredit Charles?

110 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:18:39am

re: #105 shanec99

I tried the non palare routine with the Caribinieri in Italy, and well... he propmtly started speaking to me in English...damn if he didn't write me a citation and translate it in English and Italian.

damn good thing i ain't in Italy, eh?

111 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:18:53am

re: #102 Sharmuta

You're kidding! :-(

112 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:19:35am

re: #107 Outrider

Click the first link

113 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:19:43am

re: #99 redc1c4

Merry Christmas red. Hot buttered rum tonite.

114 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:20:09am

re: #107 Outrider


Someone posted a link early in that thread-no similarity, we're talking direct rip off...glad we could all contribute to the site overload....LOL.

115 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:21:05am

re: #104 Outrider

72 - 93. In 87, I was down to Ft Hood.

Was the 2nd AD there , or was that another Texas base? I was in 2AD FWD. in Germany, 2/1 Cav. to be exact.

116 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:21:33am

re: #111 littleoldlady

You check out my #112 also.

117 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:22:01am

re: #105 shanec99

I tried the non palare routine with the Caribinieri in Italy, and well... he propmtly started speaking to me in English...damn if he didn't write me a citation and translate it in English and Italian.

I was in Okinawa at the airport and some old guy came up and started speaking English. It was obvious he just wanted to practice. I was tired having just pulled a double shift prior to getting woke up and told to go to the airport to pick someone up. I told the guy, "Nicht verstehen, Ich bin Deutches soldaten." The guy then starts speaking fluent German!

We go over and get a beer and it turns out this guy was merchant marine since before WWII and had three ships sunk by the US Navy during the war. He spoke quite a few languages and was a fascinating old git.

Just a quick story of one of my encounters. ;-)>

118 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:22:50am

re: #111 littleoldlady

Good eve/morn/noon, lol. are you surviving the gorebull warming?

119 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:22:50am

re: #110 redc1c4

damn good thing i ain't in Italy, eh?


I was driving a Alfa Romeo 145 Twin Spark and doing 160 KM/H on the auto strada between Catania and Messina.
I never knew there was a speed limit on the Auto Strada until that happened.
Fine was 100 Euro. Kind of peed me off.

120 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:23:08am

re: #112 Sharmuta

Click the first link

pretty freaking blatant wasn't he? lol

121 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:23:58am

re: #116 Sharmuta

Did s/he not "cease and desist" right away? How did the story end? (Ad where was I that I missed it?)

122 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:24:33am

re: #115 x-wing

Was the 2nd AD there , or was that another Texas base? I was in 2AD FWD. in Germany, 2/1 Cav. to be exact.

2nd AD was there, yes. As was 1st Cav, 6th Air Cav Bde, 504th MIBde, and quite a few separate Bdes and Bns.

123 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:25:22am

re: #109 shanec99

What did Charles do? Surely there are things he can do.

Was he using the logo to try to discredit Charles?

I don't think he was trying to discredit Charles, he just stole the lizard lounge lizard from him, for whatever reason. And could you quit calling me Shirley?

124 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:25:48am

re: #117 Outrider

I was in Okinawa at the airport and some old guy came up and started speaking English. It was obvious he just wanted to practice. I was tired having just pulled a double shift prior to getting woke up and told to go to the airport to pick someone up. I told the guy, "Nicht verstehen, Ich bin Deutches soldaten." The guy then starts speaking fluent German!

We go over and get a beer and it turns out this guy was merchant marine since before WWII and had three ships sunk by the US Navy during the war. He spoke quite a few languages and was a fascinating old git.

Just a quick story of one of my encounters. ;-)>


Okinawa, now that was a time, I was a young HM assigned to the Medical Battalion up at Camp Hansen in 1994. Good Lord I can tell you stories about Kin Ville that would make your hair stand on end and cause you to wonder how in God's name was such a place created.

125 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:26:48am

re: #122 Outrider

Hood is a little 'large'...Ft Sill wishes it had as much playground....

/white smoke....

126 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:27:42am

re: #124 shanec99

Okinawa, now that was a time, I was a young HM assigned to the Medical Battalion up at Camp Hansen in 1994. Good Lord I can tell you stories about Kin Ville that would make your hair stand on end and cause you to wonder how in God's name was such a place created.

Awesome little ville! Got drunk there a time or four. I spent a lot of time at Camp Hanson, CTA and NTA with the 3d Marine Div as a soldier. Regular assignment was at Torii Station.

127 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:28:19am

re: #123 x-wing

I don't think he was trying to discredit Charles, he just stole the lizard lounge lizard from him, for whatever reason. And could you quit calling me Shirley?


I will ... but you have to quit wearing short skirts, fish net panyhose and shaving your damned legs.

128 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:28:28am

re: #120 Outrider

pretty freaking blatant wasn't he? lol

Yes.

re: #121 littleoldlady

It was the first thread yesterday morning. Obviously, as we tend to do, we crashed his site.

129 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:28:31am

re: #118 Pietr

I'm headed South - slowly warming up. We're in Atlanta now, where my Southern cousins are complaining of "the cold". ;-)

/apologies in advance for the delays, typos, etc, today. I have to get re-used to my daughter's laptop....

130 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:28:44am

re: #125 Pietr

Hood is a little 'large'...Ft Sill wishes it had as much playground....

/white smoke....

Hood was fantastic. I was supposed to go there to retire until some pogue sent my butt to Ft Stewart and the 24th ID.

131 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:29:55am

re: #129 littleoldlady

I'm headed South - slowly warming up. We're in Atlanta now, where my Southern cousins are complaining of "the cold". ;-)

/apologies in advance for the delays, typos, etc, today. I have to get re-used to my daughter's laptop....

I'm in full sympathy with our cousins! I'm down in Savannah and it is right chilly.

132 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:30:18am

re: #128 Sharmuta

I thought that logo was MIA for quite awhile.

/but now I know why I missed the thread. Thanks!

133 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:30:33am

re: #131 Outrider

I'm in full sympathy with our cousins! I'm down in Savannah and it is right chilly.

our/your eh. ;-)>

134 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:30:48am

re: #126 Outrider
Mostly I spent my time at Camp Hanson, Camp Schwab... and when I went
to mainland I was up at Camp Fuji... but I loved going to the Roppongi district... you have never partied until you party in Roppongi.

135 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:31:39am

in line with the "no habla" routine, i actually pulled that here in Lost Angels earlier this year.

i was going to w*rk at this facility in a business development, complete with and insecurity guard shack at the front......

i pulled up and there were a variety of sillyvillians having a tough time of dealing with the issues in front of them.

being of sound mind, i went in the other gate, leaving them to their issues.
i parked my car, and got out, and was putting on my shirt when the SUV that had had such a *difficult* time negotiating the gate finaly reached where i was.

the worthy gentleman proceeded to berate me as to my driving skills, lack of concern, parentage, etc...... in highly accented, poorly formatted engrish.

when he ran out of breath, i simply looked at him and said "No habla Ingles, Senor." in my best mexican accent..... /deadpan

the look on his face was *priceless*, as was his next line, given most incredulously to the big white guy in the Hawaiian shirt: "You don't speak English?
/more deadpan
'No comprende, senor..... no tienda......."

/who needs a Mastercard?

136 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:31:42am

re: #132 littleoldlady

Drinky Lizard is still up at the top right with our rotating titles.

137 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:31:52am

re: #133 Outrider

We're all "cousins" in this boat. ;-)

138 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:32:06am

re: #122 Outrider

2nd AD was there, yes. As was 1st Cav, 6th Air Cav Bde, 504th MIBde, and quite a few separate Bdes and Bns.

I thought so. I was supposed to go there after Germany, but they turned the Cav. unit into Air Cav. and sent us all packing throughout Germany. I guess because 2/66 Armor already went through M-1 transition, there was no room for us. I was not pleased.

139 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:33:37am

re: #136 Sharmuta

Right. It's the terrorist-moonbat one that's gone.

/Senior Moment #1,217,453

140 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:33:57am

Continue to use our Lizard, and we shall crash you a second time.

141 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:34:35am

re: #124 shanec99

Okinawa, now that was a time, I was a young HM assigned to the Medical Battalion up at Camp Hansen in 1994. Good Lord I can tell you stories about Kin Ville that would make your hair stand on end and cause you to wonder how in God's name was such a place created.

so what are you waiting on?

/if not here, start a blog!

142 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:35:07am

re: #134 shanec99

Mostly I spent my time at Camp Hanson, Camp Schwab... and when I went
to mainland I was up at Camp Fuji... but I loved going to the Roppongi district... you have never partied until you party in Roppongi.

I never got to the mainland, unless you count a "Golden Cobra" exercise in Thailand. My standards for partying were fairly low, so I could party anywhere. And anytime with a Marine! Then head for BC street and look up some zoomies. lol

143 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:36:16am

re: #127 shanec99

I will ... but you have to quit wearing short skirts, fish net panyhose and shaving your damned legs.

For your information, they are stockings :>}

/////

144 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:36:20am

re: #127 shanec99

I will ... but you have to quit wearing short skirts, fish net panyhose and shaving your damned legs.

standard Tanker uniform for non Cav units.....

/white smoke

145 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:36:57am

re: #138 x-wing

I thought so. I was supposed to go there after Germany, but they turned the Cav. unit into Air Cav. and sent us all packing throughout Germany. I guess because 2/66 Armor already went through M-1 transition, there was no room for us. I was not pleased.

they sent you where instead?

146 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:39:07am

littleoldlady is here to do Fruitcup cuz I was so late yesterday.

147 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:39:57am

re: #135 redc1c4
He is lucky, you were not my younger brother. That boy is a reprobate and hooligan...
In 1996 he got a speeding ticket on I-95 (I wont tell which Southern State) going north and the police decided to follow him from to the border, as soon as he crossed the state line, he promptly got out of the car, pulled his pants down and mooned em.
The look on the State Trooper's face was priceless... He would probably have mooned the fellow at the gate too after his harangue.

148 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:40:44am

re: #146 Sharmuta

littleoldlady is here to do Fruitcup cuz I was so late yesterday.

and here i thought she was here because she spent the evening out drinking with relatives on her vacation and just got in.....

149 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:41:46am

re: #144 redc1c4

standard Tanker uniform for non Cav units.....

/white smoke

Echo Mike..over. ;>}

/white smoke

150 Outrider  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:43:09am

i got to pull pitch. night all

151 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:43:41am

re: #147 shanec99

He is lucky, you were not my younger brother. That boy is a reprobate and hooligan...
In 1996 he got a speeding ticket on I-95 (I wont tell which Southern State) going north and the police decided to follow him from to the border, as soon as he crossed the state line, he promptly got out of the car, pulled his pants down and mooned em.
The look on the State Trooper's face was priceless... He would probably have mooned the fellow at the gate too after his harangue.

the fool i messed with was another driver....... the Insecurity person never left their cell.

152 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:45:20am

re: #149 x-wing

Echo Mike..over. ;>}

/white smoke

Mike has had no message traffic on this net.

please clarify; over.

/white smoke

153 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:45:35am

re: #146 Sharmuta

littleoldlady is here to do Fruitcup cuz I was so late yesterday.

littleoldlady is here today because we're finally somewhere where the wireless works correctly.

/and because she doesn't sleep, no matter where she is, red
//you did GREAT, Sharmuta! I saw it later on in the morning. :-)

154 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:47:45am

re: #153 littleoldlady

littleoldlady is here today because we're finally somewhere where the wireless works correctly.

/and because she doesn't sleep, no matter where she is, red
//you did GREAT, Sharmuta! I saw it later on in the morning. :-)

you're so cute when you're being tough.... %-)

/white smoke

155 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:48:22am

re: #145 Outrider

they sent you where instead?

1AD Bamberg. Wasn't bad duty. I PCS'd to Knox, training brigade. I was not much more than a mechanic, I hated it cause I wanted to soldier, wasn't doing it for me so when my hitch was up,I got out.
Sucked cause I wanted to put 20 in, but once I had that training designater behind me, i knew if I came back stateside,I would be stuck there.
BTW, when I went to re-up there was no chance to go overseas, so that did it for me.

156 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:49:11am

re: #154 redc1c4

you're so cute when you're being tough.... %-)

/white smoke

Isn't she?

157 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:50:38am

re: #150 Outrider

later.

158 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:53:14am

Oh- and Happy Hanukkah, littleoldlady!

159 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:55:06am

re: #158 Sharmuta

Oh- and Happy Hanukkah, littleoldlady!

ditto!

160 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:55:08am

re: #152 redc1c4

Mike has had no message traffic on this net.

please clarify; over.

/white smoke

I see little old lady is here. Must be on best behavior. ahem.

Hi, little old lady, I didn't do anything.....red did it, I swear.

///white smoke.

161 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:55:33am

Thanks, Sharmuta! :-)

162 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:56:12am

re: #142 Outrider
Not a Marine... Navy Corpsman here... with the 8404 designation.

Cobra Gold... heh heh... some of the Marines call that TAD (in this case they meant travelling around drunk).
The stories from Cobra Gold should never be repeated.

163 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:57:16am

And thanks, red! :-)

x-wing,

OUR red?! Nah. Couldn't be!

;-)

164 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 1:59:05am

re: #156 Sharmuta


Ms Manners posted this in that thread-seems appropos for lol, IMHO....:>)

[Link: img.photobucket.com...]

/white smoke....

165 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:00:05am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

166 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:00:45am

re: #165 littleoldlady

morning maam.. been gone too long.

167 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:01:41am

Hiya, Mel! :-)

Where've you been?

168 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:01:46am

re: #165 littleoldlady

Ah the glorious hour of fruitcup has come again. Happy Hanukkah littleoldlady. So good to see you this morning.

169 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:01:49am

re: #165 littleoldlady


Fruitcup-without the Red side effects-muchos gracias, lol...and view my #164....:>).

170 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:04:06am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Thank you, thank you!

Pietr!

SO cute! :-)

171 freetoken  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:05:11am

re: #165 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Yay! I can eat now... (all I've had today was a protein shake and an energy bar....)

172 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:05:50am

re: #171 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

Are we on a diet?

173 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:06:06am

re: #169 Pietr

Fruitcup-without the Red side effects-muchos gracias, lol...and view my #164....:>).

Or so you think. red has taught me well. Enjoy the fruitcup, at your own risk. Mwwaaaaahahhah.

174 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:06:10am

re: #167 littleoldlady

family stuff and work... been lurking but not this late.

175 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:06:15am

re: #162 shanec99


Never say 'not a Marine-just a Navy Corpsman'-we all know that is pure crap. Every 1 in any branch of service knows what it means.....IMHO. I doubt any of us would want better service when injured......

176 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:07:24am

The shift in power will soon come in our direction people... Illinois, NY, California, Michigan, Mass, Minnesota and Rhode Island to lose seats in congress.

South Carolina, Florida, Texas, Arizona and Nevada to gain seats in 2010.
The balance of power will begin to shift in the national legislature based on demographics soon.

Well here it is: [Link: news.yahoo.com...]

What do you think?

177 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:09:03am

Thanks, {lol}!

178 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:09:03am

re: #174 Mel Lono

Early. It's EARLY, Mel! ;-)

Do we wish you a Merry Christmas or a Happy Chanukah?

/or, a Happy Chanumas?
//Merry Christmukah?
///only in America... ;-)

179 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:09:57am

Sharmuta! :-)

180 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:10:46am

re: #175 Pietr
There is a reason why I add that I carry the 8404 NEC... those of you in the know understand what I am talking about.

181 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:11:59am

re: #178 littleoldlady

Early. It's EARLY, Mel! ;-)

Do we wish you a Merry Christmas or a Happy Chanukah?

/or, a Happy Chanumas?
//Merry Christmukah?
///only in America... ;-)

Or maybe just a whaaaaaazzzzzuup

/

182 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:12:45am

re: #176 shanec99

The population shift helps. More importantly, with the economy tanking-many illegal voters have probably returned home. Now if we can just organiize to watch/counter Acorn, and come up with real conservatives.....that's what it takes.

183 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:13:24am

x-wing! :-)

Waaazzzzzzupwitchyew?

184 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:14:39am

re: #178 littleoldlady

Early. It's EARLY, Mel! ;-)

Do we wish you a Merry Christmas or a Happy Chanukah?

/or, a Happy Chanumas?
//Merry Christmukah?
///only in America... ;-)


I've never been PC so I always say Merry Christmas, because well, it's Christmas!. But its also the second day of Hannukah, never could spell it. My roommate in law school was jewish so we had a hannukah bush too! It's good to have jewish lawyers as friends, you know.

185 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:15:37am

re: #182 Pietr

The population shift helps. More importantly, with the economy tanking-many illegal voters have probably returned home. Now if we can just organiize to watch/counter Acorn, and come up with real conservatives.....that's what it takes.


With the change in congressional representation, the electorl college also changes.
So NY, California, Michigan, Ohio and Penn lose electorial college votes... and guess who gets em?
You guessed it: Texas, South Carolina, Florida etc.

Change is indeed coming, but some people wont like it.

186 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:17:32am

re: #182 Pietr

xactly. What scares me is that there are too many people that look to the Gov. as the answer to everything .Pres. Bush didn't help matters with his little speech after he bailed out the big 3. But now just today,I saw that Karl Marx's book is selling well in Japan. It's getting scary man.

187 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:20:22am

re: #184 Mel Lono

There's no "right" way to spell Chanukah.

/or to put it another way...if you put two Jews in a room, you'll get 3 opinions.

I like to wish people a merry/happy whatever holiday they celebrate. Since talloldman is a Jew-by-choice, we get a dash of Christmas every year from visiting his family.

/takes care of my Christmas-envy rather nicely... ;-)

188 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:21:55am

re: #183 littleoldlady

x-wing! :-)

Waaazzzzzzupwitchyew?

Morning. I've been drinking and thanking God that we didn't get the precipitation they were calling for around York. It's colder than a penguins ass,and I'd hate to have to be out shoveling snow right now.

189 freetoken  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:22:11am

re: #172 littleoldlady

freetoken! :-)

Are we on a diet?

Apparently not anymore... I just ate a candy bar ....

190 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:23:34am

CAIR thinks the guilty verdicts on the would be Fort Dixx shooters unfair... what a group of poop heads.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

191 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:25:21am

re: #188 x-wing

You're in Pennsylvania?

/I.did.not.know.that!

We left Delaware County two days ago...in the ice storm.

192 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:25:50am

re: #189 freetoken

YAY! ;-)

/got another?

193 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:26:09am

re: #187 littleoldlady


That's nice little old lady. You are so sweet.

194 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:27:16am

re: #189 freetoken

I used to always believe a little bit of chocolate every day was good for a person. Then research started coming out that chocolate does have healthy benefits. So just remember to tell any guilty thoughts that recent studies indicate chocolate is a health food.

:D

195 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:27:40am

re: #186 x-wing


As long as there are enough thinking voters-we stand a chance. We've seen every Marxist & Socialist govt go down the tubes/ or going down the tubes. Without Capitalism, Imagination, and Individuality-I see stagnation and ruin for the human race. We have to stay positive and try to encourage these traits! If we can't, then we'll need to stock up on books/armaments/food, so that when the world tanks, we can survive and endure. I know, that's asking a lot......

196 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:30:41am

They blame the informants, and say the would be murderers would have done nothing if the informants were not involved.

Good grief.

197 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:31:41am

re: #195 Pietr

I should rephrase-"go down the tubes, or going down the tubes, UNLESS they embraced capitalism, and allowed some individuality. Every time they remove those items-they lose."

198 freetoken  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:32:59am

re: #194 Sharmuta

Well... ok, Cocoa may indeed be the "food of the gods"... but the candy bar was milk chocolate and mostly made of sugar and butter fat... tasty, but ...

And sorry LOL... I only had one!

199 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:33:06am

re: #191 littleoldlady

You're in Pennsylvania?

/I.did.not.know.that!

We left Delaware County two days ago...in the ice storm.


All we got was rain (thank you Jesus). It sleeted for about an hour Saturday night and that was it. But they are calling for some ugly stuff to roll in tonight. On the bright side, I guess, it's supposed to be couldy and 44 on Christmas Day.

You say you left Del. county. Did you leave for good? Too many moonbats? Or are you just on vacation?

200 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:34:58am

re: #199 x-wing

lol is traveling to a family gathering, IIRC.

201 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:35:40am

I wonder how the Lliberal Media are going to use the Fort Dix verdict to blame the current administration?

202 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:36:10am
203 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:37:00am

re: #201 shanec99


CAIR version of course-Bush admin entrapped these poor jihadis'........Aargh.

204 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:37:09am

re: #199 x-wing

Way-cation.

/sorta.

Ends up being a vacation for "my kids" and a lot of work for me...

205 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:38:10am
206 Mel Lono  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:38:28am

re: #188 x-wing

Is that colder than a witch's tit or am I celsius?

207 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:38:34am
208 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:38:50am

plooomie! :-)

Happy Chanukah!

209 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:38:57am
210 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:40:31am

We're in Atlanta right now, headed for North Florida and then South Florida.

/visiting cousins, then my brother-in-law, then my mom

211 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:40:53am

They are mad:
[Link: www.time.com...]

212 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:40:53am
213 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:41:54am
214 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:42:28am

re: #200 Pietr

lol is traveling to a family gathering, IIRC.

Lucky her. I'm not Jooish, but I may have to turn into a snowbird. Or just move south for good. I got my electric bill and was not amused. And the hamsters running my furnace are demanding a pay raise.

I'm so glad I was optimistic and didn't lock in my gas rate when it was $4 a gallon.

215 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:44:00am

re: #213 ploome hineni

Depends upon the weather in Pennsylvania, but right now the plan is to be back the Sunday after New Years.

/unless bad weather is predicted for Philadelphia, in which case we'll be home earlier....

216 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:44:29am

re: #204 littleoldlady

Way-cation.

/sorta.

Ends up being a vacation for "my kids" and a lot of work for me...

At least you're not freezing your (what's yiddish for buns) off up here.

217 littleoldlady  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:45:04am

re: #216 x-wing

TUSH. (Tuchas.) ;-)

218 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:45:32am

re: #205 ploome hineni

For some, never for a lizard. Saw your #202-don't know the post/thread-not important. No one here would ever accuse you of stupidity, IMHO. We all have our 'Doh' moments-we're human. That said, I want to tell you, when you and others were defending Davesax-I supported the only way I could. I updinged Dave and defenders where and when I could. As a noobie, I still got some negative hits-but I was smart enough to support and keep quiet. I'm glad you guys saved Davesax....:>)

219 Throbert McGee  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:46:56am

re: #33 DistantThunder

I'm up at 3am here in south Jersey waiting for the Australian Kiwi cheesecake to come out of the oven (I know kiwis come from New Zealand, but I'm just following the recipe.) My 10 year old Hayden has to bring an Australian dish to school tomorrow for International Day.

That's pretty ambitious of you! Personally I would've frosted some Twinkies with Marmite and told the lad they were "dingo cakes" -- just to fuck with the other kids.)

P.S. Before any Antipodeans jump all over me -- yes I know that "Vegemite" is more authentically Australian, but I think that Marmite is (somewhat) easier to find in U.S. supermarkets.

220 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:48:33am

re: #219 Throbert McGee

And they both taste like crap to us yanks....LOL.

/white smoke...

221 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:49:41am
222 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:49:55am

re: #202 ploome hineni

I want to apologize to you for being stupid the other day. I could have disagreed with you in a more constructive way.

:{


Its OK... people make mistakes... the fact that I believe that gays can sometimes be obnoxious to the point of offending other people is my opinion.
I believe that if gays were not so offensive they would have more allies, but when they go into churches and disrupt services, use symbols of hate to advance thier cause, and generally walk around and trample on everyone's shoes, then people who would like to assist them or be their natural allies just say to the devil with this.
Which Libertarian do you know does not agree with the arguments that:
1. People should be allowed to live their lives free of government harassment?
2. All citizens under the constitution are guaranteed equal protection under the law?

Most Libertarians find common ground with the arguments gays make, but people get annoyed with the blatant display of explicit sexuality in public places, the use of Nazi symbols and the "in your face" attitude that some radical gays use to advance their arguments.

I don't have a problem with gays until individual gays create a problem for me.

223 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:50:36am

re: #206 Mel Lono

Is that colder than a witch's tit or am I celsius?

I don't know, I was just trying to keep it clean, I don't know why, Mandy aint here.

How big is this witches tit you speak of.

//

224 yochanan  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:52:37am

re: #33 DistantThunder

what you could not find a jar of 'vegimite'?

225 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:54:00am

re: #223 x-wing

Witches were always portrayed as slender-so I'd guess about a 34-36 B/C...but that is opinion...LOL.

226 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:58:01am
227 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 2:59:34am

re: #225 Pietr
When was the last time you read the comic strip and had a look at Broom Hilda?
Fat woman ... at least 48DD, with USMC underwear.
[Link: www.broomhilda.com...]

228 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:01:16am

re: #226 ploome hineni

Then what were you calling me names for?

229 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:02:35am

re: #227 shanec99

Yes, but she is the exception...LOL. Many of the Salem witches were young and lookers-which is why the older prunes had them condemned....That and liking cats got you condemned! Guess that makes me a Warlock...LOL.

230 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:04:20am
231 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:07:33am

re: #230 ploome hineni
Peace

232 akak  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:08:53am

wow, print this shanec99

233 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:09:37am

re: #232 akak

wow, print this shanec99


Print what?

234 akak  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:13:33am

re: #233 shanec99

Print what?

The gods must be smiling on you today shanec99, go buy me a lotto ticket please.

lol

235 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:15:52am

re: #234 akak
We don't have Lotto in many East African nations, especially Islamic ones... Muslim's typically frown on gambling.

236 x-wing  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:16:11am

Gotta call it a night/morning guys, Maybe catch you around noon. I was looking for a big witches tit, and google was not being my friend. Later everybody.

237 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:18:23am

re: #236 x-wing

Gotta call it a night/morning guys, Maybe catch you around noon. I was looking for a big witches tit, and google was not being my friend. Later everybody.


Dolly Parton bewitches me everytime she sings... well she enchants me anyway.
Are her tits big enuff for you?

238 Throbert McGee  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:19:03am

re: #222 shanec99

Most Libertarians find common ground with the arguments gays make, but people get annoyed with the blatant display of explicit sexuality in public places, the use of Nazi symbols

Um, what Nazi symbols are you blathering about? If you're referring to the pink triangles, and are seriously suggesting that the use of them as a "gay pride" emblem is a significant source of annoyance to non-gays, you've gotta be out of your gourd -- because:

(A) Most people probably aren't even aware that the pink triangle was originally devised by the Nazis for gay political prisoners; and

(B) Pink triangles have become NEARLY as passé as the λ these days -- having been almost entirely superseded by rainbows rainbows rainbows and more fucking rainbows. (Which, admittedly, is a reason in and of itself to disdain "gay culture." If I were a leprechaun, or a unicorn, I'd be furious.)

239 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:19:41am

gotta go work out yall... need to pay attention to my ... well I can't allow myself to become too rotund. C ya.

240 akak  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:20:23am

re: #235 shanec99

We don't have Lotto in many East African nations, especially Islamic ones... Muslim's typically frown on gambling.

That's too bad, I'm sure they'll find another way to steal thev money.

Which country is that you're in specifically?

241 Rancher  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:21:57am

Morning Lizards. Bush needs to pardon Scooter Libby. You can read the whole sordid tale here, suffice it to say the only villains here were Colin Powell and Dick Armitage.

Mr. Libby didn't leak Ms. Plame's name to journalist Robert Novak; Mr. Armitage did that deed, though neither he nor his close friend, Mr. Powell, bothered to tell Mr. Bush or the world.

Powell, who wants us to dump Palin and Limbaugh, is a stain on the GOP.

242 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:22:12am

re: #238 Throbert McGee

Um, what Nazi symbols are you blathering about? If you're referring to the pink triangles, and are seriously suggesting that the use of them as a "gay pride" emblem is a significant source of annoyance to non-gays, you've gotta be out of your gourd -- because:

(A) Most people probably aren't even aware that the pink triangle was originally devised by the Nazis for gay political prisoners; and

(B) Pink triangles have become NEARLY as passé as the λ these days -- having been almost entirely superseded by rainbows rainbows rainbows and more fucking rainbows. (Which, admittedly, is a reason in and of itself to disdain "gay culture." If I were a leprechaun, or a unicorn, I'd be furious.)


I know where the pink triangles come from and it annoys me to see it as much as the Swastica and yellow Stars of David do.
You may not find Nazi symbols offensive... but I find them offensive even if they are obscure.

243 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:23:57am

Good morning, Lizards.

244 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:24:28am

Good morning {goddess}, how are you doing this morning?

245 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:24:50am

re: #238 Throbert McGee

If I were a leprechaun, or a unicorn, I'd be furious.

My unicorn, Snowflake, from Lord The One™ 0bama was furious about it.

246 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:25:10am

re: #243 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning!

247 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:25:46am

re: #240 akak
Wont discuss location my friend. Sorry. It probably wouldn't make much of a difference, but we were briefed to never discuss specific location. Note, where I am I feel safe.

248 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:26:02am

re: #233 shanec99

IMHO, Akak lost a battle or 2 with Ploome. So he wanted to crow, and gloat over your getting an apology. Ne Kultural.... This is Hannukah, and the Christmas season-you and ploome have agreed to disagree and sought peace-Bless you both! Any1 with a grudge wanting to ruin it, can KMA and take me on....I'm not always nice-Heh Heh. And I won't be popping white smoke on this statement!

249 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:26:46am

{BlueCanuck}
{Sharmuta}

I had one of the those wake-up at 2-and-can't-get-back-to-sleep-until-3:30 nights. AARRGGHH!

250 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:26:51am

re: #245 Sharmuta

My unicorn, Snowflake, from Lord The One™ 0bama was furious about it.


welcome back blue angel, I missed you

251 Timbre  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:29:14am
252 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:30:36am

re: #251 Timbre

TSA Security Officer killed in vehicle accident.


Let us pray for the family.

253 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:32:54am

bye

254 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:36:03am

re: #249 goddessoftheclassroom

My sympathies. I have too many of those myself. Doesn't help I am on the reverse sleep schedule of everyone else in my building.

255 yochanan  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:37:41am

Hanukkah is a minor fun Jewish holiday if your Jewish the less religious you are the more important Hanukkah becomes. often if they make Hanukkah a main holiday they haven't even heard of Sukkot or Shavuot.

256 Rancher  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:39:33am

re: #254 BlueCanuck

My sympathies. I have too many of those myself. Doesn't help I am on the reverse sleep schedule of everyone else in my building.

Nope, it down right sucks. When I worked graveyard I had an apartment with no AC and barking dogs next door. It was an excuse to drink heavily though.

257 Rancher  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:40:43am

re: #255 yochanan

Hanukkah is a minor fun Jewish holiday if your Jewish the less religious you are the more important Hanukkah becomes. often if they make Hanukkah a main holiday they haven't even heard of Sukkot or Shavuot.

Like Christians and Easter?

258 yochanan  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:42:41am

Easter is one of the two main Christian holidays. more like good friday or thanksgiving

259 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:44:23am

re: #256 Rancher

Alas, I can't drink heavily anymore. I can't even drink lightly. :p

/no drinking sucks.

260 NYCHardhat  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:48:11am

re: #259 BlueCanuck

Alas, I can't drink heavily anymore. I can't even drink lightly. :p

/no drinking sucks.

I will have one for you.

261 rightside  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:51:28am

Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year.

262 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:51:59am

{rightside{

And to you, too!

263 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:52:12am

It seems Akak has run away-and shane is out now as well. I truly wish Akak had stayed to fight-as a hatchling I was willing to risk this fight-I happen to like Ploome, and most of her input. Haven't seen much Akak posts-or is that Ka-ka....Hmmmm.

264 Throbert McGee  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:53:16am

re: #229 Pietr

Many of the Salem witches were young and lookers-which is why the older prunes had them condemned

If this was a joke, it's not really very funny, and if it was intended as a factual assertion, it is the exact opposite of the truth. Of the 20 people put to death during the Salem witch trials, nearly all were over 40, several were in their late 60s, and Giles Corey (one of the six men killed) was 81 when they piled stones on his chest in an attempt to force a confession.

On the other hand, the accusers (i.e., the "witchcraft victims") were all young girls, ranging in age from 9 years old to about 20. There is speculation, however, that at least some of the girls were encouraged to make the accusations by their parents, who in some cases had pre-existing feuds with the accused witches.

265 Rancher  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:53:41am

re: #258 yochanan

Easter is one of the two main Christian holidays. more like good friday or thanksgiving

Easter is the main Christian holiday, Christmas should be a distant second. I suppose Hanukkah is like number four, Sukkot, Shavuot, and Passover being the top three?

266 Rancher  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:55:53am

re: #259 BlueCanuck

Alas, I can't drink heavily anymore. I can't even drink lightly. :p

/no drinking sucks.

I feel for you.

267 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:56:37am

re: #259 BlueCanuck

Alas, I can't drink heavily anymore. I can't even drink lightly. :p

/no drinking sucks.

I don't drink anymore either

but then again, I don't drink any less!

268 rightside  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 3:57:19am

re: #262 goddessoftheclassroom

{rightside{

And to you, too!

God Bless You.

269 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:01:23am

re: #264 Throbert McGee

It has been a LONG time since I read the stats on Salem-so I stand corrected. But no portrait I ever viewed of a Witch showed them as fat-most were fit-and I refer to all witchcraft trials/Wicaans. The accusers (many of the the young'uns you mentioned) were 'SAVED' from being accused witches, IIRC-by condemning others to save themselves. Maybe that is where you and I disagree, Throbert.

270 Rancher  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:01:47am

God bless us everyone!

271 yochanan  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:02:52am

re: #265 Rancher

LOWER than that,
the High holidays Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur, being the main holidays, then the second tier is Passover, Shavuot and Sukkot, the minor holidays are Purim, Hanukkah, and Tu-beshavat. Purim because we read one of the books of the bible is shul based holiday Hanukkah is more in the home.

Only because Hanukkah is next to Christmas has it become more important. and the funny thing is if they knew what the holiday was all about if would be funny. the subject of the holiday is were traditional Jews defeat assimilated Jews.

272 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:03:33am

re: #270 Rancher

Thank'ee there, Tiny Tim Rancher-and I concur.....Heh Heh.

273 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:03:37am

Have a great day, Lizards.

274 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:03:52am

I took advantage of the MSM Recession blues ("We're Dooooooooooomed!") and purchased a treadmill last week! I went a bit overboard and got one with the Pulse Oximeter and all the electronics built in, and ever since then my wallet has asked me "Why the heck did you do that?"

I let my wallet get the newspaper and see what 25 degrees F with a stiff breeze feels like. Haven't heard any more complaining!

Good morning, everyone!

275 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:06:15am

re: #270 Rancher

God bless us everyone!

That's my favorite Christmas tale.

276 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:08:05am

Rising to find more snow in Berkeley East....swilling coffee...sniffing for berries....

The Salem witch thing is a timely cautionary tale regarding religion and governance - man, are there some scary scenarios there. Some being played out since the 7th century.

277 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:09:58am

re: #276 badbear


Maybe even today-how are you doing this AM, badbear?

278 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:12:03am

re: #277 Pietr

Maybe even today-how are you doing this AM, badbear?

He walks...he sniffs the air...he smells democrats lurking in the underbrush....rage begins..

other than that - cool. How you?

279 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:13:04am

Good morning.

The market futures for the Dow and the S&P 500 are up very slightly, the NASDAQ future number is slightly down, the Nikkei is up 1.57% and the Hang Seng is down 2.75%

It will be a very light trading day. We may see a bit of a surge in the market today as short sellers buy back stock to close their positions and eliminate their risk for the Holiday so they can relax.

280 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:13:12am

re: #274 SteveC

I took advantage of the MSM Recession blues ("We're Dooooooooooomed!") and purchased a treadmill last week! I went a bit overboard and got one with the Pulse Oximeter and all the electronics built in, and ever since then my wallet has asked me "Why the heck did you do that?"

I let my wallet get the newspaper and see what 25 degrees F with a stiff breeze feels like. Haven't heard any more complaining!

Good morning, everyone!

If you're anything like me, it'll make a good clothes hanger one day in the not too distant future

281 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:14:10am

re: #276 badbear

The Salem witch thing is a timely cautionary tale regarding religion and governance - man, are there some scary scenarios there. Some being played out since the 7th century.

I'm not familiar enough with Salem history, so forgive me if this is a bit too simplistic, but what I know strikes me as Cover Your Ass/Save Your Ass tactics: "We've got you red handed and you're going to pay a heavy price for this indiscretion.... unless you're willing to tell us something?"

Am I in the right neighborhood?

282 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:15:02am

re: #279 3 wood

Good morning.

The market futures for the Dow and the S&P 500 are up very slightly, the NASDAQ future number is slightly down, the Nikkei is up 1.57% and the Hang Seng is down 2.75%

It will be a very light trading day. We may see a bit of a surge in the market today as short sellers buy back stock to close their positions and eliminate their risk for the Holiday so they can relax.

What's Madoff doing?

283 Rancher  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:15:02am

re: #271 yochanan

Wow, thanks, I learn so much here. I thought Passover was the big one, I forgot about Yom Kippur but I knew the Arabs attacked on that day so I should have figured it was a major holiday.

re: #274 SteveC

Wife is getting a treadmill for Christmas. I have to start running again so I'll be using it as much as she will.

284 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:15:18am

re: #280 sattv4u2

If you're anything like me, it'll make a good clothes hanger one day in the not too distant future

I'm going to *try* not to let it be so, but my willpower rolls in and out like the tide.

285 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:15:24am

re: #279 3 wood

Good morning.

The market futures for the Dow and the S&P 500 are up very slightly, the NASDAQ future number is slightly down, the Nikkei is up 1.57% and the Hang Seng is down 2.75%

It will be a very light trading day. We may see a bit of a surge in the market today as short sellers buy back stock to close their positions and eliminate their risk for the Holiday so they can relax.


I've done my part for the close-out of the 2008 economy. I close on a peice of property next week and I just ordered a new SUV from GM

286 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:15:44am

re: #282 badbear

What's Madoff doing?

In time ,,, TIME

287 Throbert McGee  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:16:15am

By the way, one interesting thing I found while double-checking the ages of the accused in the wikipedia article about the Salem witch trials:

In 1695, three years after the trials and executions, Thomas Maule, a noted Quaker, publicly criticized the handling of the trials by the Puritan leaders in Chapter 29 of his book Truth Held Forth and Maintained. Maule expanded on Increase Mather by stating, "it were better than one hundred Witches should live, than that one person be put to death for a witch, which is not a Witch". For publishing this book, Maule was imprisoned twelve months before he was tried and found not guilty.

Increase Mather, despite being a somewhat fanatical Puritan, had urged the trial judges and jurors to treat the claims of the accusers with at least a grain of skepticism, and also said that "it's better for ten witches to live" than for one innocent person to be wrongly executed for witchcraft. This would later be generalized to the legal principle known as Blackstone's formulation.

But what I really found interesting was that Maule was imprisoned merely for having criticized the gummint's handling of the case.

288 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:16:17am

re: #278 badbear

Hibernating in the warm house-while the climate is an intemperate 36 outside-and drizzling. I had to fix a cat carrier for feral mom and her kittens so they wouldn't freeze. Got an old field jacket liner wrapped around a pillow to give them a warm bed.
Mom was smart enough to take the babes in....LOL.

289 yochanan  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:18:33am

wonder how many people will get taken when they think the gold plated obama coins are real gold

sort of like obama all show nothing real

290 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:19:21am

re: #286 sattv4u2

In time ,,, TIME

let us hope...but I'll believe it when I see it. The dude has a lot of ammo for deal making. Probably has a cool billion under his mattress.

291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:20:24am

re: #2 Cheechako

Good evening Lizards. Special treat tonight. There's chocolate birthday cake on the side table. Help yourself.

I'll bet it's all gone.

292 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:20:45am

Morning Lizard Kingdom -

Interesting article on Caroline

If this was Sarah

Sounds like a Kennedy -----

293 Rancher  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:20:53am

re: #286 sattv4u2

In time ,,, TIME

Given the number and power of the people he screwed he will be lucky to live long enough to do time.

294 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:21:55am

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'll bet it's all gone.


How about some coffee cake? There's still some left.

295 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:22:08am

re: #288 Pietr

Hibernating in the warm house-while the climate is an intemperate 36 outside-and drizzling.

Guy dies and is in line to see St. Peter. As he's waiting, he sees some pass by and go through the Pearly Gates. He sees other move off to one side, where the devil loads them into a wheelbarrow. When the wheelbarrow's full, he empties it down a chute. But every now and again the Devil takes a victim and tosses him/her off to the side.

Our guy gets his ticket in but before he enters, he walks over to speak to the demon. "I can figure out what you're doing easily enough," he says. "But what about this pile over here?"

"Those?" Satan asks. "They're from Seattle, they are too wet to burn."

296 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:23:00am

re: #287 Throbert McGee


Bravo-you're beginning to see the theme. If you go back into the middle ages witch hunts-the first developed the needles that didn't prick-if you pushed the button, it slid ino the handle. That was used to steal money/property/virginity, but then the witch hunters often turned on their victims and condemned them anyway-after all: loose lips, sink ships......

297 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:23:16am

re: #288 Pietr

Field jacket liner..certainly drags up some memories. Like C-rats, ugly but better than nuttin'.

298 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:23:43am

re: #289 yochanan

wonder how many people will get taken when they think the gold plated obama coins are real gold

"Steve, you gonna buy one of those Obama Gold Dollars?"

"No such thing. Obama promised change, not dollars."

299 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:24:30am

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'll bet it's all gone.

I ate yours.

300 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:24:41am

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'll bet it's all gone.

You're not 'on the road" during Christmas, are you? I recall years (decades, actually) ago in one of my past lives I was on the road 3 straight Christmas's. One year, about 20 of us (all strangers) staying at a Marriot had one of THE best Christmas parties I've ever been too

301 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:25:20am

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It was delicious.

[for you]

302 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:25:25am

re: #285 sattv4u2

I've done my part for the close-out of the 2008 economy. I close on a peice of property next week and I just ordered a new SUV from GM

We've done our part too - remodeled our kitchen this year and just bought some furniture. According to hubby, I could keep the economy rolling all by myself - methinks he exaggerates.

303 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:26:40am

re: #299 badbear

I ate yours.


I see that now. Stay away from the vegan banana bread or I will slap your hand..

304 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:28:34am

re: #302 summergurl

We've done our part too - remodeled our kitchen this year and just bought some furniture. According to hubby, I could keep the economy rolling all by myself - methinks he exaggerates.

heheh ,,, I know,, 2009 is going to start of with a bang for us also. Granite counter tops for the kitchen. A new washer/ dryer combo. Wifey wants a 50+ inch flat screen monitor for the family room (I have NO idea whats wrong with the 42 inch one we have there now !) plus several othre smaller home project type o' thingys

305 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:28:46am

re: #300 sattv4u2

At home. Doesn't bother me when I'm on the road.

Shar? Coffee cake is okay. Nothing to fear...

306 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:29:40am

Unions sue Schwarzenegger over mandatory days off

Reporting from Sacramento -- Two public employee unions on Monday sued Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to block his effort to furlough state workers in a cost-cutting measure as California's treasury runs out of money.

Last week, Schwarzenegger issued an executive order to require that all state employees take two unpaid days off each month starting in February. The governor said the measure is needed to conserve cash, with the state budget gap estimated to reach $42 billion a year and a half from now.

The lawsuit, filed in Sacramento County Superior Court, asserts that only the Legislature can alter the pay of workers who have labor contracts with the state. It asks the courts to issue a temporary stay to stop Schwarzenegger's efforts, which could affect 230,000 workers.

"We don't think he has the authority," said Bruce Blanning, executive director of Professional Engineers in California Government.

California is so screwed.

You watch, we will bail out California too.

People don't change until it hurts too much not to. What you see happening now is a whole bunch of people scrambling to avoid the pain of change and try to shift it too someone else.

307 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:29:51am

re: #303 summergurl

Oh gosh, vegan banana bread is goooood.

308 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:29:59am

re: #303 summergurl

I see that now. Stay away from the vegan banana bread or I will slap your hand..

my paws have been smacked by females all the way back to the nuns in grade school...I'm thinking about coming for the banana bread.

309 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:30:10am

re: #305 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

At home. Doesn't bother me when I'm on the road.

Shar? Coffee cake is okay. Nothing to fear...

It never bothered me either ,,but back then no wife/ kid. I can't imagine missing Christmas when my son was younger though.

310 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:30:26am

re: #282 badbear

What's Madoff doing?

Hoping they don't figure out where he stashed his cash.

311 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:30:44am

re: #303 summergurl

Don't you mean 'Paw'? In talking to the Bear, simple and straightforward is important....must not confuse or anger the Bear.....LOL.

/white smoke....

312 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:31:07am

re: #308 badbear

my paws have been smacked by females all the way back to the nuns in grade school...I'm thinking about coming for the banana bread.

I'm holding out until someone puts the rum cake on the table!

313 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:31:24am

re: #306 3 woodPeople don't change until it hurts too much not to. What you see happening now is a whole bunch of people scrambling to avoid the pain of change and try to shift it too someone else.

Throw in a sense of entitlement and you've really got a problem.

314 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:31:38am

re: #307 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wait! Re-phrase....

Oh gosh, vegan banana bread (prepared by someone who knows how to prepare vegan banana bread, while it is fresh, with fresh strawberries, or strawberry jam) is goooood.

315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:32:22am

re: #306 3 wood

We are all better at dealing with other peoples pain.

316 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:32:55am

re: #304 sattv4u2

heheh ,,, I know,, 2009 is going to start of with a bang for us also. Granite counter tops for the kitchen. A new washer/ dryer combo. Wifey wants a 50+ inch flat screen monitor for the family room (I have NO idea whats wrong with the 42 inch one we have there now !) plus several othre smaller home project type o' thingys


You should give her what she wants --- lol

317 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:33:16am

re: #311 Pietr

Don't you mean 'Paw'? In talking to the Bear, simple and straightforward is important....must not confuse or anger the Bear.....LOL.

/white smoke....

now that was well said.

318 BlueCanuck  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:33:26am

Well folks, my relief is here and it's time for me to vacate the site. Stay warm and scaly folks.

/I hate unseasonably cold weather. :p

319 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:33:36am

Oh! Look what I found and I'm not sharing! Ha!

320 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:33:55am

re: #316 summergurl

Only if she gives him what he wants....LOL.

321 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:34:06am

re: #298 SteveC

"Steve, you gonna buy one of those Obama Gold Dollars?"

"No such thing. Obama promised change, not dollars."

A friend of mine was gassing up her SUV the other day and another lady with an older car and Obama stickers all over it was at the next pump and was just smiling at her. Then the Obama supporter asked my friend how she likes her car. My friend said fine. The Obama supporter then said, "Now that Obama got elected, he's going to buy me one of those."

322 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:34:52am

re: #308 badbear

my paws have been smacked by females all the way back to the nuns in grade school...I'm thinking about coming for the banana bread.

Just ate the last piece - you guys will have to wait until I make another loaf. sheesh - slapping doesn't deter you? And I had those nuns for CCD way back when too...

323 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:35:30am

re: #316 summergurl

You should give her what she wants --- lol

I've tried that,,,,,, I figured it would keep her quiet ,,, BOY was I wrong !

324 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:36:24am

re: #312 sattv4u2

I'm holding out until someone puts the rum cake on the table!


LOL My daughter requested that too! It is on the baking schedule for tomorrow ... Bacardi amber colored rum --- the glaze is sinfully good.

325 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:36:34am

re: #313 SteveC

Throw in a sense of entitlement and you've really got a problem.

I would also expect to see a rash of labor driven law suits for more pay/benefits in this economic downturn with the expectation that the Democrats on Congress and the White House will give them what ever they want.

326 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:36:41am

re: #321 3 wood

A friend of mine was gassing up her SUV the other day and another lady with an older car and Obama stickers all over it was at the next pump and was just smiling at her. Then the Obama supporter asked my friend how she likes her car. My friend said fine. The Obama supporter then said, "Now that Obama got elected, he's going to buy me one of those."

WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

"Damn, that's a loud car alarm!"

"Sorry, Ma'm, you set off my car's built in Stupidity Detector."

327 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:39:29am

re: #322 summergurl

Just ate the last piece - you guys will have to wait until I make another loaf. sheesh - slapping doesn't deter you? And I had those nuns for CCD way back when too...

Chicks who make great eats are a national treasure. Please carry on the good work. Oh yes...we have ways of dealing with the slapping at paws. Stealth and the profession of innocence. The dawg did it can work.

328 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:39:38am

re: #326 SteveC


Have you patented it yet? Need help/money to do so? Can I haz 1?

329 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:39:46am

re: #321 3 wood

A friend of mine was gassing up her SUV the other day and another lady with an older car and Obama stickers all over it was at the next pump and was just smiling at her. Then the Obama supporter asked my friend how she likes her car. My friend said fine. The Obama supporter then said, "Now that Obama got elected, he's going to buy me one of those."

I've started a little one man crusade. Whenever I see a white person with an Obama sticker on their car, I make sure I smile at them. When they acknowledge it in kind. I say "Thank God Obama got elected. What are you going to do now that you don't have 'WHITE GUILT' anymore?"

330 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:40:14am

re: #321 3 wood

A friend of mine was gassing up her SUV the other day and another lady with an older car and Obama stickers all over it was at the next pump and was just smiling at her. Then the Obama supporter asked my friend how she likes her car. My friend said fine. The Obama supporter then said, "Now that Obama got elected, he's going to buy me one of those."


HAHAHHAHAHAHA - Some people will be sorely disappointed. I can't wait to ask them next year "How's the change thing working out for you?"

331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:40:36am

re: #325 3 wood

The real surprises begin after Jan 20. Kind of afraid to see what is going to happen from all of the people who truly think that since they voted for Obama, they won't need to pay house payments, car payments....

332 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:41:23am

re: #325 3 wood

I would also expect to see a rash of labor driven law suits for more pay/benefits in this economic downturn with the expectation that the Democrats on Congress and the White House will give them what ever they want.

Last week during the Auto Bailout discussions, did you the UAW members driving through Washington? All the signs taped to their vehicles said crap like

UNITY

UAW FOREVER

SOLIDARITY

Not a word about working the problems out. Keep that up, and you'll be unified all the way to bankruptcy court.

333 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:41:41am

re: #327 badbear

Chicks who make great eats are a national treasure. Please carry on the good work. Oh yes...we have ways of dealing with the slapping at paws. Stealth and the profession of innocence. The dawg did it can work.


And guys who cook get more treats. Just sayin' a man that cooks (((SWOONING))))

334 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:42:09am

re: #328 Pietr

Have you patented it yet? Need help/money to do so? Can I haz 1?

No. Yes. Sure!

335 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:42:29am

re: #327 badbear

But the dog always blames the cat, and the cat points it back to you...always so messy. At least Bears don't worry about that-they stand up, Roar, and everyone runs away....:>)

336 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:42:34am

re: #333 summergurl

And guys who cook get more treats. Just sayin' a man that cooks (((SWOONING))))

someone call me ?

337 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:43:36am

re: #331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The real surprises begin after Jan 20. Kind of afraid to see what is going to happen from all of the people who truly think that since they voted for Obama, they won't need to pay house payments, car payments....

Could be real ugly. Stay armed...

338 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:45:52am

re: #332 SteveC

Last week during the Auto Bailout discussions, did you the UAW members driving through Washington? All the signs taped to their vehicles said crap like

UNITY

UAW FOREVER

SOLIDARITY

Not a word about working the problems out. Keep that up, and you'll be unified all the way to bankruptcy court.

hehehe,, Driving into work, I have to go right thru the heart of one of Atlantas' biggest liberal bastions. Sign (homemade) outside of one house states "DON'T LET BUSH DESTROY THE UAW"

If I ever see anyone standing outside that house, I'm going to stop, and say "HEY ,,,ASSHAT ,, THE UAW IS DESTROYING THE UAW"!

339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:46:18am

re: #337 badbear

BTW, pleased to make your acquaintance.

340 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:46:40am

re: #333 summergurl


I definitely am on the right site...I Cooks! Uh-oh, I'ze married...can I haz a rain chex?

341 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:47:14am

re: #333 summergurl

And guys who cook get more treats. Just sayin' a man that cooks (((SWOONING))))

Living alone (thank goodness), I cook. My choc cake is a legend in my own mind. Make a heckuva hot dog too.

Really like the swoon...

342 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:47:49am

re: #335 Pietr

But the dog always blames the cat, and the cat points it back to you...always so messy. At least Bears don't worry about that-they stand up, Roar, and everyone runs away....:>)

Everyone , cept these people
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343 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:48:55am

re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BTW, pleased to make your acquaintance.

likewise to all...

344 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:49:38am

re: #343 badbear

likewise to all...

you won;'t be saying that once you get to know me ,,, trust me ,, i know me !

345 Cathypop  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:49:50am

re: #341 badbear

Living alone (thank goodness), I cook. My choc cake is a legend in my own mind. Make a heckuva hot dog too.

Really like the swoon...


Onions, relish and mustard on that hotdog?

346 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:49:57am

re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


badbear is definitely 1 of us people....and aggressive in defending us...He ain't no teddy bear, just a kind peeps can get behind and support.....:>O

347 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:50:12am

re: #340 Pietr

I definitely am on the right site...I Cooks! Uh-oh, I'ze married...can I haz a rain chex?

Just knowing there are guys out there that cook other than Food Network guys, gives me hope that one day hubby will pick up a whisk... a girls gotta dream ...

348 sattv4u2  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:51:07am

re: #345 Cathypop

Onions, relish and mustard on that hotdog?

a single male ,,,,, having condiments at home ? Surely, you jest!

(I know ,,I know ,, stop calling you shirley! )

349 JeepThang  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:52:01am

Terry Pratchet is a brilliant writer.. its a shame about his Alzheimers disease.
I can whole-heartedly recommend everyone to read his Disc-World books.. hilarious stuff!

350 rightside  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:55:33am

How can the people of Minnesota say with a straight face, "I completely trust in our election process"?

How can Ohioans allow people to register the homeless with an address that puts them living in a pond in a park? And they have to be accepted?

Senator al franken? Senator caroline schlossberg? YHGTBFKM!

Rather than engage in Rovian Diebold conspiracy theories, I would like to point out how even the smallest of state employees can tilt an election. At what point, will enough Americans lose their complete trust in the electoral process?

Try to make a law, whereby people must show a picture ID in order to vote, and be branded as racists.

There should be zero challenges with ballots. If you cannot manage to push a touchscreen in the correct area, or darken in an oval on a piece of paper, your vote SHOULD NOT count, and you should not vote until you can demonstrate those basic skills.

We must take our country back from these ignorant people. 99% of congress should be sent packing! Get us back to fiscal sanity, and away from the entitlement culture that democrats have enslaved so many in. It's past time to stop punishing those who are successful! We are reaping what they are sowing.

351 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:55:44am

The first Madoff SEC lawsuit has hit the courts.

Sure there won't be many of those.

/

352 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:56:09am

I would prefer that my President keep his clothes on..
Some things are better left unprinted

353 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:56:25am

re: #345 Cathypop

Onions, relish and mustard on that hotdog?

perfect..plus just a dash of cajun spice...

354 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:57:20am

re: #347 summergurl

I had 5 sisters-mom raised me the same as them! I washed/ironed/swept/mopped and cooked. Mom always said, " you'll be alone for a long time b4 being married. So you need the skills......LOL

re: #349 JeepThang

Discworld was so funny-every square with new rules....and you did what was necessary to survive....:>O

355 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:58:09am

re: #352 summergurl

Shoot girl, I'd go shirtless too.

356 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:58:17am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Awful cold in the valley but it will warm up nicely for Christmas and I've just a couple of last minute gifts to buy.

357 Cathypop  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:58:28am

re: #353 badbear

perfect..plus just a dash of cajun spice...


Footlong or ballpark hotdogs?

358 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:58:55am

re: #345 Cathypop

Onions, relish and mustard on that hotdog?

I make really good veggie dogs. Chili and everything.

359 kcladderman  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 4:59:16am

re: #352 summergurl

I would prefer that my President keep his clothes on..
Some things are better left unprinted

Even This One?

360 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:00:19am

re: #350 rightside

Ummm...were you looking for an arguement, or disagreement on voter stupidity? Sorry, can't help....

/white smoke...

361 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:00:27am

re: #359 kcladderman

Even This One?

THAT'S what I'm talking about! Any pictures in a bathing suit?

362 Cathypop  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:00:40am

re: #358 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I make really good veggie dogs. Chili and everything.

I have tried veggie dogs and they should be outlawed.

363 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:01:10am

re: #350 rightside

Brilliantly put.

Regarding Minnesota...if the republicans let crazy Al steal the election, two things for sure: Pawlenty is finished and I'm done with the party.

364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:01:30am

re: #362 Cathypop

Well. With that attitude....

365 kcladderman  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:01:34am

re: #347 summergurl

Just knowing there are guys out there that cook other than Food Network guys, gives me hope that one day hubby will pick up a whisk... a girls gotta dream ...

I do almost all of the cooking in our house. Of course it is more a matter of survival, my wife has set the stove on fire 4 times in three years. Good thing she married a firefighter.

366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:02:17am

re: #365 kcladderman

My wife thinks the oven is something you store sweaters in.

367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:03:04am

re: #365 kcladderman

We have made three trips to the emergency room because my wife went into the kitchen.

368 Cathypop  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:03:51am

re: #365 kcladderman

I do almost all of the cooking in our house. Of course it is more a matter of survival, my wife has set the stove on fire 4 times in three years. Good thing she married a firefighter.


And you think it was an accident that she set the stove on fire? 4 times? Oh come on. Your wife if very smart.

369 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:04:33am

re: #357 Cathypop

Footlong or ballpark hotdogs?

actually I prefer Johnsonville Polish dawgs....

ain't touching that footlong business...

370 Cathypop  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:05:37am

re: #369 badbear

actually I prefer Johnsonville Polish dawgs....

ain't touching that footlong business...

Forgot about those. Very good choice

371 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:06:37am

re: #357 Cathypop

You need to understand-this is Bear-he's happy with your choices! But if you keep teasing him about food without feeding him....well. lets say he might get feighsty. Feed the Bear-ignore the sign....:>)

372 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:08:14am

re: #371 Pietr

You need to understand-this is Bear-he's happy with your choices! But if you keep teasing him about food without feeding him....well. lets say he might get feighsty. Feed the Bear-ignore the sign....:>)

words of wisdom...

373 Cathypop  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:10:18am

re: #371 Pietr

In that case it is time for me to get going. Need to take the truck in for oil change and tire rotating thingy.
Oh by the way, tonight I'm making gingersnap bars in the cast iron skillet. Old recipe of my Moms.
See Ya Lizards!

374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:12:36am

The big toe has finally begun to swell up. Gout...


I'll have gout for Christmas
You can't plan on me
Please have merlot, cause my big toe
Is throbbing, up to my knee

Christmas Eve will find me
Painful tears in streams...
I'll have gout for Christmas
I'll be writhing in my dreams.

375 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:14:34am

re: #374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

sorry to hear that..hang tough.

376 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:15:35am

re: #375 badbear

My "paws" are giving me pause.

377 opnion  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:15:52am

Good Morning Lizards form bleepin Illinois.
The Bears stay alive & beat the bleepin Packers on the ice.
Barry must have been sending bleepin karma from Hawaii

378 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:16:06am

re: #376 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

not a happy thing.

379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:16:36am

re: #377 opnion

Bleepin A.

380 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:17:44am

Ohhh great, this oughta help things along: Taliban to back Pak army in case of hostilities with India

Hunted by the US and NATO forces for committing acts of terror in Afghanistan, the Taliban said they would back the Pakistan Army by deploying hundreds of suicide bombers in case of any military action with India.
[...]
"The time had come, to wage a real jihad that the Taliban had been waiting for," Mehsud, for whom the Pakistani and US forces are on the look out claimed.

"We know very well that the visible and invisible enemies of the country have been planning to weaken this lone Islamic nuclear power. But the mujahideen will foil all such nefarious designs of our enemies," he said.

Mornin folks, it's a vunderbar day in the neighborhood.

381 Taqyia2Me  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:21:55am

re: #380 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Jihadi Day Planner for Tuesday: Marry a 7 year old, blow up a bus.

382 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:22:09am

re: #380 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

somebody tell me again why it was a good idea to let the Pakis have nukes....

383 Throbert McGee  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:24:16am

The case of Ann Putnam, one of the "bewitched" girls at Salem, is especially interesting -- she was 13 at the time of the trials, and made accusations against 62 different people. But about 15 years after the trials, she publicly recanted her accusations, saying that she had been tricked by Satan into slandering innocent people as witches.

However... Ann's dad, Thomas Putnam, was one of the wealthiest and possibly THE most influential man in Salem, and it also happens that he was a driving force behind the trials -- he personally obtained many of the testimonies from the "victims" and procured a lot of the subsequent arrest warrants. So it's likely that the "Satan" who had persuaded Ann to make false accusations of witchcraft was her own father. Exactly what Thomas Putnam's motivations may have been, on the other hand, is less clear -- did he have personal grudges against some of the accused witches? Did he hope to acquire the land owned by some of the accused? Or was he just a batshit-crazy religious paranoic who really and truly believed that witches were out to get him?

384 wahabicorridor  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:25:51am

re: #382 badbear

somebody tell me again why it was a good idea to let the Pakis have nukes....

I wasn't aware we had a say in the matter.

Good morning lizards! BTW, am I being a bit paranoid here? Does anyone else think that and undersea cable cut in the Mediterranean that disrupts everything in the Middle East for the THIRD time this year is a bit odd? All the traffic get re-routed thru the U.S. - which would make intercepting things so much easier, yes?

?

385 opnion  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:26:27am

re: #383 Throbert McGee

The case of Ann Putnam, one of the "bewitched" girls at Salem, is especially interesting -- she was 13 at the time of the trials, and made accusations against 62 different people. But about 15 years after the trials, she publicly recanted her accusations, saying that she had been tricked by Satan into slandering innocent people as witches.

However... Ann's dad, Thomas Putnam, was one of the wealthiest and possibly THE most influential man in Salem, and it also happens that he was a driving force behind the trials -- he personally obtained many of the testimonies from the "victims" and procured a lot of the subsequent arrest warrants. So it's likely that the "Satan" who had persuaded Ann to make false accusations of witchcraft was her own father. Exactly what Thomas Putnam's motivations may have been, on the other hand, is less clear -- did he have personal grudges against some of the accused witches? Did he hope to acquire the land owned by some of the accused? Or was he just a batshit-crazy religious paranoic who really and truly believed that witches were out to get him?

They probably all reminded him of his first wife.

386 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:26:48am

Reid is bringing more jobs to Vegas..
Vegas Roads

What is the state of the economy in Vegas? We were out there in November and there was alot of building going on --course that was The Strip area - heard from a couple of cab drivers that the suburbs were suffering with foreclosures and it looked deserted in some areas.

They still have a water supply issue I thought - maybe this money would be better spent rectifying that problem.

387 Throbert McGee  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:28:13am

re: #319 Sharmuta

Oh! Look what I found and I'm not sharing!

Heh... "Bluebuddies" are never to be confused with "Blowbuddies." (Google image search results are quite NSFW!)

388 shiplord kirel  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:29:12am

re: #380 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
re: #382 badbear

somebody tell me again why it was a good idea to let the Pakis have nukes....

I think it's going to go down this time: Nuclear combat toe-to-toe with the Hajis. India will win, of course, but the carnage and destruction will be past imagining. My guess: 12-14 million killed outright, with variable numbers of long term casualties from fallout and radiation exposure.
Anyone outside the Islamic world who had any part in helping Pak get the bomb (and any within it that we can catch) should end up swinging from a lamppost.

389 wahabicorridor  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:31:17am

re: #386 summergurl

They still have a water supply issue I thought - maybe this money would be better spent rectifying that problem.

Good luck with that - the water issues are basically agricultural in nature - traceable primarily to California.

390 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:33:27am

re: #382 badbear

somebody tell me again why it was a good idea to let the Pakis have nukes....

It wasn't that anyone let them, it was more of a total friggin clusterfook. Watch how both the Indian's and Paki's deal with the quote-unquote international community - we could learn a lot.

re: #381 Taqyia2Me

Jihadi Day Planner for Tuesday: Marry a 7 year old, blow up a bus.

Sweethearts, huh?

391 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:33:55am

re: #388 shiplord kirel

re: #382 badbear

I think it's going to go down this time: Nuclear combat toe-to-toe with the Hajis. India will win, of course, but the carnage and destruction will be past imagining. My guess: 12-14 million killed outright, with variable numbers of long term casualties from fallout and radiation exposure.
Anyone outside the Islamic world who had any part in helping Pak get the bomb (and any within it that we can catch) should end up swinging from a lamppost.

Dire prediction is certainly possible. Concur with lamppost plan.

392 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:36:06am

re: #352 summergurl

I would prefer that my President keep his clothes on..
Some things are better left unprinted

As false idols go, the Ö is certainly a bronzed one. I swear, if I get one more "holiday" card from a proselytizing moonbat acquaintance giving thanks for the coming of the Ö, I'm going to start throwing figgy pudding.

393 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:37:31am

re: #392 Pullus Iulius

Really? You've gotten (even) one? Can't imagine. I'd probably drive to the offending person's house, hand the card back to them, and ask them to remove me from their Christmas Card list.

394 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:38:21am

re: #388 shiplord kirel

The Indian public is boiling over. If the gubermint doesn't do anything, they'll have a real problem on their hands. But, fortunately or unfortunately as the the case may turn-out to be, the gubermint does appear ready to do something...for one thing Indian forces are digging-in in various provinces and cities.

395 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:38:35am

re: #393 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really? You've gotten (even) one? Can't imagine. I'd probably drive to the offending person's house, hand the card back to them, and ask them to remove me from their Christmas Card list.

roger that...

396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:38:42am

re: #393 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh. Excuse me. "Holiday card list".

397 Desert Dog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:40:01am

re: #393 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really? You've gotten (even) one? Can't imagine. I'd probably drive to the offending person's house, hand the card back to them, and ask them to remove me from their Christmas Card list.

Naaa, don't do that....just send them a card back that has an actual leader on the front of the card

398 opnion  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:41:03am

re: #391 badbear

Dire prediction is certainly possible. Concur with lamppost plan.


The problem is that Pakistan could not sustain an all out land war with India. It is just a matter of overwhelming numbers.
That is why Pakistan would probably make it nuclear.
I could envision a Paki commander saying just what Custer said, "Holy cow, look at all of the bleepin Indians!

399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:41:10am

re: #397 Desert Dog

Dude could do a "Stern Leader" look when he wanted to, couldn't he?

400 Harry Tuttle  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:44:51am

re: #388 shiplord kirel

re: #382 badbear

I think it's going to go down this time: Nuclear combat toe-to-toe with the Hajis. India will win, of course, but the carnage and destruction will be past imagining. My guess: 12-14 million killed outright, with variable numbers of long term casualties from fallout and radiation exposure.
Anyone outside the Islamic world who had any part in helping Pak get the bomb (and any within it that we can catch) should end up swinging from a lamppost.

This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

401 shiplord kirel  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:44:52am

re: #398 opnion

The problem is that Pakistan could not sustain an all out land war with India. It is just a matter of overwhelming numbers.
That is why Pakistan would probably make it nuclear.
I could envision a Paki commander saying just what Custer said, "Holy cow, look at all of the bleepin Indians!

The Pakistan Air Force is close to saying just that:

War possibility has Pak air force worried

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has warned the nation’s civilian leadership that in case of an armed conflict with India, PAF could lose its skies within a week.

In a secret report, the air force has told president Asif Ali Zardari, who is also commander-in-chief of the armed forces, that PAF’s entire war strategy rests on a strike at the heart of India’s western air command - as was the case in 1965. Which means, disabling a great number of Indian aircraft before they take off to establish supremacy in the air.

The report points out the bitter fact that PAF only has about three dozen truly world-class fighter planes — F-16 Fighting Falcons — and of them, only a handful are the latest block-52 fighters. The remaining are ageing aircraft acquired 20-25 years ago. These are not even a match for Su-30s and are outnumbered by MiG-29s.

After F-16s, the PAF report points out, Pakistan has Mirage-IIIs and Mirage-Vs. The fact, however, remains the earliest of these were received over 37 years ago. Pakistan also relies heavily on F-7Ps, the Chinese version of the Soviet MiG-21s, which currently is India’s most dispensable plane.

JF-17s, rumoured to have a production cost of $17 million per unit, are still years from becoming PAF’s mainstay. There are other planes, including a solitary surviving squadron of MiG-19, or F-6, as it is called, its A-5 variant ground attack aircraft, FT-5 (a variant of MiG-17), the jet trainer K-8 and the Super Mushak, but these would be of little consequence in a full-blown conflict.

Pitting against these planes is a wide range of aircraft, including but not limited to, Su-30s, Mirage-2000s, MiG-29s, MiG-27s, MiG-23s and MiG-21s, which make the Indian Air Force a formidable nemesis.

402 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:45:26am

re: #392 Pullus Iulius

As false idols go, the Ö is certainly a bronzed one. I swear, if I get one more "holiday" card from a proselytizing moonbat acquaintance giving thanks for the coming of the Ö, I'm going to start throwing figgy pudding.

O perpetuated the biggest hoodwink of all time. He and the media spent themselves into the White House - he moved the unrealizing masses into voting for him - (change, white guilt, the brother thing, and liberal agendas). Buy the jumbo tub of popcorn to watch this show - he will move toward the center and change will be a distant memory. It's all about who can get out the vote and he did it. It was a kumbaya moment for folks -- yet looking back on the alternative "My friends" McCain - we didn't offer much of a choice - though I think Palin brought some life to his campaign and he had some chance of winning because of her. John McCain gave us two things; the resolve, I hope, not to run a Democrat on the ticket and just call him a Republican, and Sarah Palin. Just hope she is moderate socially enough, she is fiscally conservative enough to appeal to the right.

403 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:47:09am

re: #393 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am continually fascinated by the deity-sized hole that the zero is filling in these peoples' lives. I've known cultists, and I've seen what they're capable of when their idols fail them. I think this will be an ugly time.

404 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:47:15am

Good morning.

Here is some music to start the day.

You were on my mind

We Five

1965

405 summergurl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:47:33am

Been sitting here too long ----

Have a document to edit and cookies don't bake themselves...

406 Throbert McGee  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:47:47am

Oh, following up on that Red State Update hat-tip I got last night (swoon!), here's Jackie and Dunlap pandering to gay voters who've become disenchanted with Obama. It's from 2007, but is still mah-tee funny. ("I ain't the one with the Dumbledore beard!" is my favorite line.)

Did you know that "LGBT" actually stands for "Lesbians, Gays, Bears, and Twinks"? Dunlap knew! Hmmm...

407 Harry Tuttle  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:51:39am

re: #400 Harry Tuttle

This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Hate to be such a downer...

Len

Steal My Sunshine Lyrics


i was lying on the grass on sunday morning of last week
indulging in my self defeats
my mind was thugged, all laced and bugged, all twisted round and beat
uncomfortable three feet deep
now the fuzzy stare from not being there on a confusing morning week
impaired my tribal lunar-speak
and of course you can't become if you only say what you would have done
so i missed a million miles of fun

i know it's up for me
if you steal my sunshine
making sure i'm not in too deep
if you steal my sunshine
keeping versed and on my feet
if you steal my sunshine

i was frying on the bench slide in the park across the street
l-a-t-e-r that week
my sticky paws were into making straws out of big fat slurpy treats
an incredible eight foot heap
now the funny glare to pay a gleaming tear in a staring under heat
involved an under usual feat
and i'm not only among but i invite who i want to come
so i missed a million miles of fun

i know it's up for me
if you steal my sunshine
making sure i'm not in too deep
if you steal my sunshine
keeping versed and on my feet
if you steal my sunshine

i know it's done for me
if you steal my sunshine
not something hard to see
if you steal my sunshine
keeping dumb and built to beat
if you steal my sunshine

my sunshine
if you steal my sunshine

408 opnion  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:53:19am

re: #402 summergurl

O perpetuated the biggest hoodwink of all time. He and the media spent themselves into the White House - he moved the unrealizing masses into voting for him - (change, white guilt, the brother thing, and liberal agendas). Buy the jumbo tub of popcorn to watch this show - he will move toward the center and change will be a distant memory. It's all about who can get out the vote and he did it. It was a kumbaya moment for folks -- yet looking back on the alternative "My friends" McCain - we didn't offer much of a choice - though I think Palin brought some life to his campaign and he had some chance of winning because of her. John McCain gave us two tthe resolve, I hope, not to run a Democrat on the ticket and just call him a Republican, and Sarah Palin.
Talking about the change thing, Bob Beckle was on FNC this morning & pretty much admitted that the change thing is just an illusion.
As you might imagine he defended Obama though, saying that who ever offered CHANGE first owned the issue & would win.

409 wahabicorridor  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:54:33am

re: #406 Throbert McGee

Hi Throbert!

You know, I just don't get it. Everytime he was asked about his view on gay marriage, he said he is opposed to it. EVERY TIME. Did the gay community think he was just foolin?

410 uncc_compman  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:55:12am

Thought I might cheer everyone up this morning.
/

Obama to use Lincoln's Bible for Inauguration

411 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:55:44am

And some more music from my childhood.

Downtown

Petula Clark

412 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:56:15am

re: #405 summergurl

Been sitting here too long ----

Have a document to edit and cookies don't bake themselves...

"Gotta run! Crack don't smoke itself!"

-Smokey, The PJs.

413 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:56:40am

re: #402 summergurl

You said you were leaving-after teasing 'badbear' about food.....I think you disrespected a very REAL Bear.....just IMHO.

?I'll put up white smoke....but never tease a bear...

414 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:57:26am

And little Johnny Nash

I can Se Clearly Now

415 wahabicorridor  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:58:26am

re: #408 opnion

Talking about the change thing, Bob Beckle was on FNC this morning & pretty much admitted that the change thing is just an illusion.

Beckel was funny this morning, especially when he was talking about Caroline Kennedy's refusal to release her financial info.

"Caroline Kennedy is about to find out the she WILL release her financial information."

heh.

416 badbear  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:58:35am

re: #408 opnion

Beckel is a major scumbag. And his party is one big hoodwink. Empty suit Obama is going to have a tough time riding herd on his various flaky constituent groups. Gonna be interesting times.

417 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 5:59:36am

A little something for Governor Blagojevich

30 Day in the Hole

Humble Pie

418 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:03:13am

re: #331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The real surprises begin after Jan 20. Kind of afraid to see what is going to happen from all of the people who truly think that since they voted for Obama, they won't need to pay house payments, car payments....

I think it's a give that he will nationalize health care. He will call that an economic stimulus move.

And He's going to spend $1 trillion on public works stuff.

The unions will get their piece.

419 JacksonTn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:03:27am

re: #415 wahabicorridor

Beckel was funny this morning, especially when he was talking about Caroline Kennedy's refusal to release her financial info.

"Caroline Kennedy is about to find out the she WILL release her financial information."

heh.

Good morning Lizards ...

I like how now that she wants to be given the senate seat she is not using her husband's last name ...they want her to have the seat because they think she will bring in more money than other candidates ...

What ever happened to the - we don't want the same names in politics - how many times did you hear ...no more Bush or Clinton ...they hammered that during the democrat primary to get Hillary out of the race ...guess it does not matter so much to them now ....

420 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:03:34am

re: #416 badbear

Hate Beckel-is always all talking points-and talks OVER the conesrvative voice opposite him....scumbag is a nice term-dickwad-waste of skin-and a**hole-only partially cover his excremental statements....Oops, I think I went on a Dennis Miller rant....5X5 with me....LOL.

421 akak  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:04:38am

re: #413 Pietr

You said you were leaving-after teasing 'badbear' about food.....I think you disrespected a very REAL Bear.....just IMHO.

?I'll put up white smoke....but never tease a bear...


Man, lots of honesty this morning chump - you should try to be honest more often!

422 Harry Tuttle  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:05:05am

re: #417 3 wood

A little something for Governor Blagojevich

30 Day in the Hole

Humble Pie

I repeat myself when under stress
I repeat myself when under stress
I repeat myself when under stress
I repeat myself when under stress

The more I look at it...

423 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:05:13am

re: #418 3 wood

I think he'll try to nationalize healthcare. Success chances I put at about 20%.

Now, my statistics are based upon a pure un-scientific guess, but I put it at about 20%.

424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:06:43am

re: #418 3 wood

Bears were lucky as hell last night.

425 JacksonTn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:08:00am

re: #418 3 wood

I think it's a give that he will nationalize health care. He will call that an economic stimulus move.

And He's going to spend $1 trillion on public works stuff.

The unions will get their piece.

I was talking about this "public works" program with my brother yesterday ...we were wondering if this is going to be like the programs FDR set up and if it involves physical work ...how many people are really use to doing physical labor ...I mean will they have to turn off their cells phones? ...I say this because I know from experience ...it is difficult to get people to work in jobs that require physical labor ...

At the time of FDR people were much more use to working on farms and actually doing physical labor ...how many times do you go past a highway construction site and see 3 people standing around watching one person digging a hole or something like that ...I hope it works out but it will sure require many people to change their idea of work ...

426 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:08:31am

re: #410 uncc_compman

Thought I might cheer everyone up this morning.
/

Obama to use Lincoln's Bible for Inauguration

gag.

Hillary Clinton attempting to turn her State Department job into a Treasury Department job.
Looks like the uber-socialist won't be satisfied until she can "take things away for the common good"from her seat at the State Dept.
Thanks, Barack.

427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:09:09am

That "horse collar" "out of bounds" "unnecessarily hard" tackle that set up the GB field goal attempt, should cost the offending player a buck or two.

428 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:09:17am

re: #424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bears were lucky as hell last night.

Should have lost and been eliminated.

If they make the playoffs (and I hope they don't) they will be a very easy win for someone.

Did you notice what I meant about their receivers being incapable of blocking?

Now you see the awful offense we have been stuck with for years here.

429 wahabicorridor  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:10:09am

re: #423 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think he'll try to nationalize healthcare. Success chances I put at about 20%.

Now, my statistics are based upon a pure un-scientific guess, but I put it at about 20%.

We're looking to hire someone with expertise in thealth care/insurance industry just so we can keep on top of this. This is going to seriously impact farmers and from what we see now, not in a good way. But if O puts enough sweeteners in there, they just might go for it. I think it's safe to predict that the whole issue is going to divide the agricultural community big time.

430 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:10:29am

re: #419 JacksonTn

Good morning Lizards ...

I like how now that she wants to be given the senate seat she is not using her husband's last name ...they want her to have the seat because they think she will bring in more money than other candidates ...

What ever happened to the - we don't want the same names in politics - how many times did you hear ...no more Bush or Clinton ...they hammered that during the democrat primary to get Hillary out of the race ...guess it does not matter so much to them now ....

From what I've read, she's never taken her husband's surname.

431 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:11:03am

re: #421 akak

Hmmm... You didn't answer before when I got in your face....now you show and change the subject. Want to return to where this started-when you were trying to get another person to attack ploome(who was being apologetic)? I'll wait again for the answer-because I asked it of you upthread! Doesn't take a lot of guts to cause crap-standing up does-and I'm standing, so it's your turn. I can go get all the post #'s, so don't cheat.

432 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:13:37am

re: #425 JacksonTn

At the time of FDR people were much more use to working on farms and actually doing physical labor ...how many times do you go past a highway construction site and see 3 people standing around watching one person digging a hole or something like that ...I hope it works out but it will sure require many people to change their idea of work ...

It's going to be a "Full Employment for Unions" program.

But I agree, we are not the same society we were 70 years ago.

The other part of this is it takes a year or two to fire up these public works projects. By that time the economy will have adjusted via classic economic dynamics anyway, and then he will over stimulate the economy into one heck of a hyper inflation cycle.

433 jacksontn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:14:03am

re: #430 MandyManners

From what I've read, she's never taken her husband's surname.

Mandy ...I know she never legally took his name but when you would hear her name on television before they most often included her last name ...now nothing ..I probably should have said the media does not mention her husband's last name ...

434 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:14:15am
435 uncc_compman  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:15:10am

re: #426 FrogMarch

I know, the ironic thing here is that Lincoln freed the slaves, but I fear that Obama will bring back slavery to the government, albeit the Roman kind where you could leave, but don't want for whatever reason.

436 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:15:35am

A potential them some for Caroline Kennedy.

The Great Pretender

437 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:15:59am

re: #433 jacksontn

Mandy ...I know she never legally took his name but when you would hear her name on television before they most often included her last name ...now nothing ..I probably should have said the media does not mention her husband's last name ...

They were wrong to include Schlossberg.

438 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:16:49am

re: #436 3 wood

A potential them some for Caroline Kennedy.

The Great Pretender

From Petula to the Platters, you're cranking out some great tunes.

439 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:16:49am

Well, a bunch of white flaky global warming is falling to the ground now here.

440 Geepers  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:17:26am

JacksonTn (#425),

how many times do you go past a highway construction site and see 3 people standing around watching one person digging a hole or something like that

Ever tried digging a hole for eight hours straight?

And what do you do for a living?

441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:17:51am

re: #434 MandyManners

I loved Paul Young back in the 80's. Never really caught on in America.

Paul Young, Love of the Common People

442 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:18:16am

As cold and early as it is, The Kid is outside kicking a football. He does this for hours on end during all kinds of weather.

443 jacksontn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:18:27am

re: #440 Geepers

JacksonTn (#425),

Ever tried digging a hole for eight hours straight?

And what do you do for a living?

I am a farmer and I have dug my share of holes ...

444 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:19:02am

re: #430 MandyManners


Good Morning Ms Manners. It seems I have a stalker named akak-after I dumped on him for trying to cause ploome troubel this AM-further upthread. Do you have any knowledge of this one (I refuse to say lizard, and really want to say TOAD)? If so, please share....thank you, Pietr.

445 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:19:22am

re: #438 MandyManners

From Petula to the Platters, you're cranking out some great tunes.

Thanks.

Now, a little Chicago

25 or 6 to 4

A tune about staying up all night composing music.

I've been there.

446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:19:32am

re: #442 MandyManners

As cold and early as it is, The Kid is outside kicking a football. He does this for hours on end during all kinds of weather.

Can you say...KA-CHING!

(Kicker's make big bucks in the NFL, and don't get hurt often.)

447 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:19:47am

Good morning all y'all - from a COLD (23 degrees, 19 when I awoke, going up to 39 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning? Are we discussing the flooding roads in Maryland and the incredible rescue attempts that are live on Fox TV right now?!

448 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:21:39am

re: #441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I loved Paul Young back in the 80's. Never really caught on in America.

Paul Young, Love of the Common People

Well, that has me bopping in my seat!

449 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:22:03am

re: #447 realwest

that is one big water main

450 wahabicorridor  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:22:09am

re: #432 3 wood

It's going to be a "Full Employment for Unions" program.

I wouldn't be surprised. But hey, it could be worse!

Boost voluntary work: make it compulsory
We must make people do something for nothing

What we must do, I suggest, is introduce a new concept of universal compulsory volunteering. (As practised in the Army: “Right lads, we need three volunteers - you, you and you.”) Everyone aged 12 to 85 would have to devote a minimum of 12 days a year to the service of others - causes of any kind, as long as they are worthwhile. It might be giving financial advice to a charity, walking dogs, mentoring young offenders, gardening for the elderly. People could choose; but they must make a commitment.

Everyone, from those on invalidity benefit to, er, the Archbishop, would have to participate. There could be none of this carbon- offset nonsense for the rich, no exemptions, no excuses. This would be National Service meets jury service, with harsh punishment - months of community service, or raised taxes - for those who try to avoid it. AmeriCorps on testosterone.

Vital to its success would be forcing employers to facilitate it. We would require legislation to ring-fence those 12 days off - maybe on half-pay - to work for others. Radical, but simple.

You first, bitch.

451 akak  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:22:11am

re: #431 Pietr

lol idiot.

Actually I agree with most things Ploome says, but hey your new around here so I'll take your bait chumphazcheeseburger.

I was not attacking Ploome, merely making a light hearted observation.

As for shanec99 being goated into something, not really true either.

452 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:22:18am

re: #448 MandyManners

Heh.

453 uncc_compman  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:22:48am

re: #439 3 wood

Well, a bunch of white flaky global warming is falling to the ground now here.

I was reading an article on yahoo, that was talking about how there was a shortage of female fish because all the new fish will be born male due to the fact that that globe is warming so rapidly.

454 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:23:14am

re: #447 realwest

" Morning, RW. 36 here and drizzling...Please see my #444-do you know this ...guess I have to say person?

455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:23:18am

re: #451 akak

Hey Ak! You using sarcasm again? Told you to get a license for that.

456 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:24:01am

re: #444 Pietr

Good Morning Ms Manners. It seems I have a stalker named akak-after I dumped on him for trying to cause ploome troubel this AM-further upthread. Do you have any knowledge of this one (I refuse to say lizard, and really want to say TOAD)? If so, please share....thank you, Pietr.

Akak's been around a while and I don't recall any nastiness from him. But, every Lizard can have his/her moments. Don't get yer knickers in a twist.

457 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:24:03am

Speaking of the group Chicago, here is their great version of "I'm a Man" back when Terry Kath was still alive and they were really cooking. 1970.

458 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:24:22am

re: #449 phoenixgirl
It's ENORMOUS! The SWRT are doing a great job at saving people but I don't know if they can get everyone outta there alive.

459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:24:38am
460 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:25:36am

re: #431 Pietr

Calmly now. I'm sure Ak was being ak.

461 blues fan  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:26:22am

There's been a break in a 60" water main in Bethesda, MD. Rescue operations in progress....

462 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:26:57am

re: #461 blues fan

Whoa!

463 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:27:15am

re: #450 wahabicorridor
Good morning {wahabi}! Hey, ya know The Archbishop of Canterbury can shove it up his, ah, well, Christmas Stocking - what a stupid, and insipid idea!
Course the way he's been going on about Islam and all, I shouldn't be surprised at all - he's an idjit.
How are you doing today?

464 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:27:49am

re: #435 uncc_compman

I know, the ironic thing here is that Lincoln freed the slaves, but I fear that Obama will bring back slavery to the government, albeit the Roman kind where you could leave, but don't want for whatever reason.

We become slaves to the state. It could happen.
Whatever happens, I'm just so sick of the O-fest and the constant media adulation.

465 wahabicorridor  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:27:54am

re: #458 realwest

It's ENORMOUS! The SWRT are doing a great job at saving people but I don't know if they can get everyone outta there alive.

morning real! I used to live in that neck of the woods in Maryland - the commute over there this morning is going to be unmitigated hell.

Has your apartment warmed up yet?

466 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:27:55am

re: #446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can you say...KA-CHING!

(Kicker's make big bucks in the NFL, and don't get hurt often.)

His dream right now (well, for the past two years or so) is to be the kicker for the Broncos in 14 years.

This helps me on several levels. I tell him that kickers must get good grades in school so that they get the colleges of their choice; they drink their freakin' milk when they're kids. The get plenty of sleep. They don't sass their mothers. They brush their teeth.

467 Bloodnok  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:27:57am

The Monkees - Riu Chiu

Lovely song. Good morning all.

468 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:28:46am

re: #454 Pietr Good morning Pietr - yeah, akak and I crossed keyboards a few times in the past - I think he's banned here now; how has he been stalking you?

469 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:28:52am

re: #445 3 wood

Thanks.

Now, a little Chicago

25 or 6 to 4

A tune about staying up all night composing music.

I've been there.

When I was in band, we played an untold number of Chicago songs.

470 Andopolis  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:29:22am

Happy Festivus all.

471 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:29:28am

re: #451 akak

I may have misunderstood-but I don't think so. New-as a poster, maybe-but I posted during Rathergate. I'm also 61, retired military, and not fond of peeps that promote hatred. And that is what you appeeared to be doing-correct me if i'm wrong, but I can go upthread for the posts. And will, if needed.....:>)

472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:29:29am

re: #466 MandyManners

Don't tell him about the part where they hire prostitutes and snort coke.
/

473 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:29:45am

re: #457 3 wood
Good morning 3 wood! Hey, what's with Da Bears?!?

474 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:30:18am

re: #473 realwest

Lucky.

475 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:31:23am

re: #468 realwest

Good morning Pietr - yeah, akak and I crossed keyboards a few times in the past - I think he's banned here now; how has he been stalking you?

Ummmmmmm...no, he's still here.

476 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:31:44am

re: #472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't tell him about the part where they hire prostitutes and snort coke.
/

Why, I oughta' kick your ass for that.

477 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:31:57am

re: #470 Andopolis

Happy Festivus all.

We shall begin with the Airing of Grievances. I've got a lot of complaints about you people!

478 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:32:02am

re: #470 Andopolis

Happy Festivus all.

{Ando!}

479 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:32:48am

re: #472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't tell him about the part where they hire prostitutes and snort coke.
/

Kickers don't get invited to those parties. The mascots, maybe, but not the kickers.

480 jacksontn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:33:07am

Anyone live up near Milwaukee ...I need to drive there after Christmas to pick up some equipment and wondering if I need to get snow tires or if there are any other items I might need if snowing ... I don't drive in snow much ...really not at all ...I will be going in a truck but not a 4x4 ...

481 akak  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:33:19am

re: #471 Pietr

I may have misunderstood-but I don't think so. New-as a poster, maybe-but I posted during Rathergate. I'm also 61, retired military, and not fond of peeps that promote hatred. And that is what you appeeared to be doing-correct me if i'm wrong, but I can go upthread for the posts. And will, if needed.....:>)

Yes you misunderstood.

482 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:33:31am

re: #461 blues fan
and
re: #462 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That's what phoenixgirl and I were talking about at #447 and #449 - those SWRT's are incredible aren't they?!?

483 Miss Trixie  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:33:35am

*pounce*

{realwest} Morning, ducks *smoochie*

484 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:33:41am

re: #472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What's Barry O doing now?

485 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:34:51am

re: #468 realwest

see here...re: #471 Pietr, Then you'd have to go upthread. So he is a anti military type-or what. He Tried to back me down with newbie BS....LOL.

486 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:35:11am

Good morning all!

487 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:35:48am

re: #465 wahabicorridor
Yeah, I think our apartment is up to about 55 degrees now, thanks (and getting warmer as I type!). Never mind the messed up traffic, according to Fox News some of those folks stuck in their cars may not get out alive - a 66" watermain broke - it's like a flash flood in some arroyo in the Southwest or something!

488 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:36:44am

Oh, first Christmas dance at the country club. I was wearing a silk, taffeta black-red-green plaid long skirt with a white blouse and black velvet jacket. Older teen tapped my date on the shoulder and we dance to this. I can still hear the taffeta rustle.

489 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:37:08am

re: #475 MandyManners
Ah, just faulty memory on my part I guess!
What did you do in a band -sing, play instrument(s)?

490 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:37:20am

re: #484 Iron Fist

What's Barry O doing now?

I think he's vacationing in Hawaii, which may explain why the press was so anxious to get him elected.

For the last 8 years, they had to go to Central Texas to chase the Prez during vacations. Now, they get to go to Oahu.

491 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:37:47am

re: #481 akak


Explain how-and I might apologize. But I don't back down when I believe I'm right, which seems to be your problem as well. Maybe we talked at cross purposes? I'd like to think so.

492 akak  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:38:06am
He Tried to back me down with newbie BS....LOL.

He tried to back me down?

who talks like that? have you been watching too many movies or something?

493 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:38:07am

obi wan, i miss you, especially when the lizards are fighting which seems to be daily.....sigh.....disagreements are fine, i think we can try to be kinder to one another especially during the Christmas/Chanukah season........

494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:39:10am

re: #488 MandyManners

Awwwww.

495 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:39:25am

re: #483 {Miss Trixie}
Hey, good morning gorgeous! *smoooches* back to you!
And what about ducks?! Or was that just a fowl statement on your part (ok, ok, I know, but someone was gonna say it so,..............!)LOL?

496 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:40:35am

re: #489 realwest

Ah, just faulty memory on my part I guess!
What did you do in a band -sing, play instrument(s)?

Third-chair trumpet. Mellophone. Some cymbals at times. Majorette.

497 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:40:47am

re: #450 wahabicorridor

Personal arsenal maintanience counts as "do gooding", doesn't it? we're responsible for taking care of our weapons. Maybe there should be some tax incentative to upgrade on a regular basis (hey, I'm still working on my bailout :-)

498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:41:06am

re: #492 akak

He tried to back me down?

who talks like that? have you been watching too many movies or something?

'Cut me some slack jack! Chump don' wan' no hep? Chump don' get no hep."
-Airplane

499 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:42:10am

re: #456 MandyManners
Don't be so sure that Peitr is the one who's knickers are in a twist - whether or not akak's been banned he and I HAVE crossed swords keyboards over hateful comments he's made.
*Hi akak* - don't you have a job to go to or something?

500 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:42:28am

re: #490 DeafDog

I think he's vacationing in Hawaii, which may explain why the press was so anxious to get him elected.

For the last 8 years, they had to go to Central Texas to chase the Prez during vacations. Now, they get to go to Oahu.

Drudge has a photo of a shirtless Barack (strolling the beach).
[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

501 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:42:39am

re: #492 akak

Forget my post just above yours...as far as I'm concerned you get the GAZE.....and we've done that at Annapolis and WestPoint for a very long time.....

502 quickjustice  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:42:51am

So that hoary Christmas poem , "A Visit from St. Nicholas", better known as "Twas the Night Before Christmas" was written when and where?

503 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:43:08am

re: #492 akak

He tried to back me down?

who talks like that? have you been watching too many movies or something?

"Dirty Dee, you're a baddy daddy lamatai tebby chai!"

-Pooty Tang

504 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:43:30am

re: #490 DeafDog

That makes the most sense of all the explanations for the media being in the tank for Obama that I've heard. And it doesn't even require that Barry O be a lesser god.

505 razorbacker  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:45:10am

re: #450 wahabicorridor

Why, how dare you? Don't you understand that the author has satisfied the required volunteer requirements (oxymoron much?) by the simple writing of the piece?

The 'elite' doesn't actually dirty their hands with labor. The elite proposes, like God itself. It is up to the plebes to dispose.

Mark my words. There will have to be a watering-down of the Second Amendment. You simply cannot impose this radical a restructuring of American society upon an armed citizenry.

506 wahabicorridor  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:45:16am

re: #497 Iron Fist

Personal arsenal maintanience counts as "do gooding", doesn't it? we're responsible for taking care of our weapons.

Not in the UK, where this piece of excrement hails from. Altho' she might think that disarming the few remaining legal gun owners qualifies.

507 Geepers  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:46:28am

Pietr, and all the other "newbies",

Lots of Lizards here go way back. I've personally met with 50-60 people that post here and am friends with them outside of LGF. After BSing with people for years you can get a lot of meaning packed into a short little post because of that history. Those post can also be seemingly silly or unintelligible is you don't know that history.

Plus there are any number of inside jokes and obscure references to past posts or discussions that can leave many in the dark.

If you see some thing that doesn't seem to make any sense a good idea is to ask about it first before jumping in.

508 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:46:38am

re: #502 quickjustice

So that hoary Christmas poem , "A Visit from St. Nicholas", better known as "Twas the Night Before Christmas" was written when and where?

Supposedly written by Clement Clark Moore.

509 HoosierHoops  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:46:57am

Good Morning Lizards!
Very Interesting Thread so far....
Merry Christmas Lizards and a happy new year..

510 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:47:01am

re: #493 phoenixgirl

obi wan, i miss you, especially when the lizards are fighting which seems to be daily.....sigh.....disagreements are fine, i think we can try to be kinder to one another especially during the Christmas/Chanukah season........

Morning all. AZgirl I'm going to upding you on this. I just logged on and tried to pick up on the tempo here and was immediately hit with this slug fest between Akak and Pietr. Why can't you guys take it to the Lizardlounge or something, quit bringing the rest of us down. This should be a happy time for all.

511 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:47:34am

If anyone has knickers in a twist, I volunteer to straighten them out. The clue-by-four is a nice tool for all kinds of jobs.

512 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:47:48am

re: #496 MandyManners
Huh - I don't know why, but I never "envisioned" you as a trumpet or mellophone player!
Those are difficult instruments to master - have you kept up playing them? Has your kid shown any interest in them or other instruments?

513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:48:42am

re: #511 MandyManners

Thank you Mandy. May I have another?!

514 akak  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:49:21am

re: #499 realwest


Hi RW! {waves}

/hate can be very usefull sometimes!

515 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:50:48am

re: #511 MandyManners

If anyone has knickers in a twist, I volunteer to straighten them out. The clue-by-four is a nice tool for all kinds of jobs.

Does it do laundry? Man I got a lot of dirty laundry :.)

Morning MM, I caught your Chicago post upthread. I love Chicago, and that song CMW used to play daily in my high school lunch room. Fond memories.

516 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:50:53am

re: #426 FrogMarch

Aty this rate, her job title will be Reichschancellor before she even takes the Oath of Office. I wonder if Barry O realizes that that is a scorpion he's let crawl onto his head?

517 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:51:46am

re: #505 razorbacker

There will have to be a watering-down of the Second Amendment.

Letter to the editor in local paper told us all to give Obama a chance. We ought to take this "Free Speech legislation" to heart and let the man get to work.

*Slaps forehead*

So I guess after we cross the T's and dot the I's on that "Free Speech legislation", we'll get around to them "gun totin' rules".

518 reine.de.tout  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:51:51am

re: #509 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
Very Interesting Thread so far....
Merry Christmas Lizards and a happy new year..


Mornin' HH and everyone!

I'm thinking some of us (me in particular) might be a tad bit tired from Christmas prep and maybe a little bit more cranky than we might normally be.

519 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:52:31am

re: #505 razorbacker
Hey 'backer! Hope you're doing well today! Zombie and I (and one or two other folks who'd join in once in a while) were having this sorta discussion the other night and concluded that the liberal/lefts Elities (I can't recognize anything "intellectual" about 'em) simply lack any morals at all. NONE. Thus the Archbishop of Canterburry is simply keeping in that extraordinarily long line of Elitists who know what's best for us, doncha know?

520 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:52:39am
521 SWPaul  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:52:53am

Awww. Christmas time. A time where I get drunk in front of my mother and embarrass the family! Not my fault though! She gets like 10 bottles of red wine from Trader Joe's and someone has to drink them!

522 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:53:06am

re: #512 realwest

Huh - I don't know why, but I never "envisioned" you as a trumpet or mellophone player!
Those are difficult instruments to master - have you kept up playing them? Has your kid shown any interest in them or other instruments?

No, I didn't keep up with it. The Kid likes the guitar but, he'd rather have either a football or keyboard in his hands.

523 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:53:20am

re: #513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thank you Mandy. May I have another?!

No.

524 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:53:42am

re: #506 wahabicorridor


That could get real hairy if they try to do that around here. Americans aren't like the Brits or Aussies. People are buying guns and ammunition like there is no tomorrow. They aren't buying all this shit just to turn it in at the Democrat's whim in the next year or two.

525 SWPaul  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:54:08am

re: #520 DeafDog

Link broke and I'm out of duct tape. :(

526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:54:33am
527 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:55:34am

The economy is in a recession, not a depression:

U.S. GDP unrevised at a 0.5% fall for third quarter

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The U.S. economy slowed sharply in the third quarter, declining at a 0.5% annual rate, unrevised from last month's estimate, the Commerce Department reported Tuesday.

It's the weakest quarterly growth rate since the first quarter of 2001. The economy grew 2.8% in the second quarter.

Economists now say that a recession began December 2007, based on data showing declining employment, incomes and industrial production. But it didn't really sink in until the July-September quarter.

For the current quarter, economists are predicting a sharp decline in the neighborhood of 6.0%. This would be the biggest drop since the early 1980s.

Gross domestic purchases -- the total value of goods and services bought by U.S. residents -- fell 1.5% in the third quarter, experiencing downward momentum after falling only 0.1% in the second quarter. Final sales of domestic product, including exports, fell 1.3%.

For comparison purposes, during the Great Depression there was a contraction of the GDP of about 25%. You also had unemployment of 25% back then, no unemployment insurance, no social security, no FDIC insurance for the banks.

The biggest revision in the report was in nonresidential investment, which did not fall as much as first believed.

But consumers did not buy as much prepackaged software as earlier estimates. Spending on software was revised to a 7.5% drop from the previous estimate of a 5.7% decline.
Consumer spending fell 3.8% not 3.7%, with weaker spending on nondurable goods.
Business investments decreased 5.3%, not 5.6%.
Residential investments fell 16.0%, not 17.6%.
Inventories fell $29.6 billion.

Rounding out the GDP revisions, government spending rose by 5.8%

Trust Government spending to lead the pack.


But there are signs of the economy adjusting and getting ready for the next growth period:

Inventories fell by $29.6 billion in the quarter, a positive sign for future growth because lean inventories could spur additional production once demand recovers. The change in inventories added 0.84 percentage points to growth.

528 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:55:42am

re: #525 SWPaul

Link broke and I'm out of duct tape. :(

Take 2:

Myths and Facts about the Bush Record

529 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:56:00am

re: #507 Geepers
Good morning Geepers! Hope you're well today. What you said is the truth, except that some "long time" or at least "longer time" LGFer's are also well known for their pov's and reveal and revel in them quite frequently.
And I think it behooves us all to try to make sure that folks out here know what we're talking about if we are making a generalized type of post or a post seemingly directed at another poster, ya know?
Just saying.......

530 HoosierHoops  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:56:17am

re: #518 reine.de.tout

Mornin' HH and everyone!

I'm thinking some of us (me in particular) might be a tad bit tired from Christmas prep and maybe a little bit more cranky than we might normally be.

Good Morning Friend.. This is the most wonderful time of the year...

531 wahabicorridor  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:56:23am

re: #524 Iron Fist

That could get real hairy if they try to do that around here. Americans aren't like the Brits or Aussies. People are buying guns and ammunition like there is no tomorrow. They aren't buying all this shit just to turn it in at the Democrat's whim in the next year or two.

I believe in the UK ammo is rationed. Seriously. Via the gun clubs. You're allowed 50 rounds a month. Altho' I have no idea what they do about actual hunters who go off on their grouse shooting vacations at other people's estates.

532 Geepers  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:57:00am

Morning realwest,

Still basking in the Giants victory?

533 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:57:25am

re: #515 turn

Does it do laundry? Man I got a lot of dirty laundry :.)

Morning MM, I caught your Chicago post upthread. I love Chicago, and that song CMW used to play daily in my high school lunch room. Fond memories.

I've a lot of laundry to do, too! However, my priorities are to take The Kid to see Santa's brother at the mall (we were scheduled to go Sunday but he decided he'd rather watch football) and get a pineapple.

Yes, get a pineapple. He wants one badly. I got him a coconut yesterday and we had a blast drilling the holes into the shell, tasting the milk and eating the flesh. The Kid then hollowed out the inside and I helped him turn the two halves into a bikini top with some twine. He danced the hula wearing that coconut top until I thought I was gonna' pass out from laughter.

534 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:57:37am

re: #513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thank you Mandy. May I have another?!

You'll have to pay for it.

535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:57:39am

re: #518 reine.de.tout

Mornin' HH and everyone!

I'm thinking some of us (me in particular) might be a tad bit tired from Christmas prep and maybe a little bit more cranky than we might normally be.

I'm perky, ceptin' for the gout. But perky!

536 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:57:44am

re: #509 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops!
A Happy Hanukka,Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year to you and to all LGFer's!
Maybe Manning v Manning is still on for the SB?

537 Bloodnok  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:57:47am

re: #526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Always thought this was a 25 or 6 to 4 rip off.

I never noticed that before. You could be right.

538 fclass308  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:58:05am

good morning, lizards. :)

539 3 wood  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:58:17am

re: #526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yep, pretty close. Just has more distortion to the bass line is all the difference I can hear

540 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:59:21am

re: #406 Throbert McGee

Aren't "twinks" underage people? I'm not up on all the latest gay slang, so I could be wrong.

541 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:59:21am

re: #514 akak
Hey akak (Waives back) only short term useful I think; hate is a difficult emotion to keep going for long periods of time I think.
Although, thinking back on my first former wife.......!

542 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:59:22am

re: #533 MandyManners

Seriously Mandy. "The Kid" is lucky to have "The Mom".

543 razorbacker  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:59:38am

re: #517 SteveC

Makes sense to me. Have to walk before you run, after all.

re: #519 realwest

'Morning real. If I was felt any better they'd have to drug test me. I believe what you're looking for is 'situational ethics'.

544 wahabicorridor  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:59:42am

re: #527 3 wood

You also had unemployment of 25% back then, no unemployment insurance, no social security, no FDIC insurance for the banks.

True dat. And we should be glad we're not Iceland. A year ago their unemployment rate was 0.8 Today it's 5.4. That's a hell of a jump. (I think the total population is under 500,000?)

545 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 6:59:50am

OT Former Clinton Aide and John Kerry buddy busted for child porn. (at CNN):

"A lawyer who served in the Clinton administration"

"Sanders was chosen by fellow Swift boat veteran John Kerry to introduce him at the 2004 Democratic Convention, when the senator accepted the presidential nomination."

546 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:00:57am

re: #545 Eric Cartman's Conscience

But didn't Bush & Co kill someone over the weekend? Plane "crash" or something?

/

547 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:00:58am

re: #518 reine.de.tout
Good morning reine! That's a disninct possibility, especially when mom loses her set of keys to the apartment, mailbox and safety deposit box!

548 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:02:13am

re: #542 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Seriously Mandy. "The Kid" is lucky to have "The Mom".

Aw, thanks! Kids are a lot of fun.

549 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:02:47am

546

Not exactly. But I suspect Bush sent him the disgusting files.

550 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:02:52am

re: #533 MandyManners

LOL! I can just see that and I'm grinning. Hell I would have tried making a coconut bomb out of it when I was a boy, and probably would have hacksawed dad's shotgun shells open to get the powder to do it. Man I'm amazed I'm even alive today. What is it about young boys and exotic fruit anyway? I went though the same phase when I was a boy, pineapples and coconuts were really special. Try getting your hands on sugarcane, that was fun too.

551 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:02:52am

re: #545 Eric Cartman's Conscience

OT Former Clinton Aide and John Kerry buddy busted for child porn. (at CNN):

"A lawyer who served in the Clinton administration"

"Sanders was chosen by fellow Swift boat veteran John Kerry to introduce him at the 2004 Democratic Convention, when the senator accepted the presidential nomination."


Throw the frickin' book at the SOB. One good thing, cnn actually led the story with the SOB's connection to clinton.

552 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:02:56am

re: #522 MandyManners
Ah, well in my (admittedly little) experience, keyboard is more interesting and musically useful than is the guitar - and the football is cool, GREAT game to play and a great game to watch!

553 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:03:44am

re: #546 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But didn't Bush & Co kill someone over the weekend? Plane "crash" or something?

/

I think I read that the GOP Death Squads had gone on Christmas Break, so that could have actually been an accident.

/"... if this had been an actual accident, you would have been instructed to run in circles, screaming at the top of your lungs."

554 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:03:53am

re: #531 wahabicorridor


I think you are right. The UK has some of the most fucked up laws I've ever heard of when it comes to self-defense. Or non-self-defense, really. I've hear that they recommend rolling up on the ground and waiting for the cops to show up if someone is stomping your ass to death. That way the cops know who the aggressor is.

555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:04:10am

re: #548 MandyManners

Aw, thanks! Kids are a lot of fun.

Bullshit! You are the one who has to make it fun. I know people who's children are extreme chores to them.

That is why I think "The Kid" is a lucky little kicker.

556 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:04:42am

re: #554 Iron Fist

I think you are right. The UK has some of the most fucked up laws I've ever heard of when it comes to self-defense. Or non-self-defense, really. I've hear that they recommend rolling up on the ground and waiting for the cops to show up if someone is stomping your ass to death. That way the cops know who the aggressor is.

"I love robbing the English - they're so polite."
/Otto, A Fish Called Wanda

557 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:04:48am

re: #550 turn

LOL! I can just see that and I'm grinning. Hell I would have tried making a coconut bomb out of it when I was a boy, and probably would have hacksawed dad's shotgun shells open to get the powder to do it. Man I'm amazed I'm even alive today. What is it about young boys and exotic fruit anyway? I went though the same phase when I was a boy, pineapples and coconuts were really special. Try getting your hands on sugarcane, that was fun too.

We don't have coconuts and pineapples around here all the time so I think part of it is the mystique.

What cracked me up really hard was when he started playing "boobie drums" with his drumsticks.

558 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:05:03am

re: #524 Iron Fist
Morning Bro' - hope you're doing well today. Yeah, I wasn't all that surprised by the Brits, but was shocked at the Aussies giving up their gun rights (and guns) with such apparent lack of disagreement with it.
Course the only Aussies I've had any real contact with have been Australian SAS types, so that may not be a representative sampling! LOL!

559 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:05:12am

re: #543 razorbacker

Makes sense to me. Have to walk before you run, after all.

re: #519 realwest

'Morning real. If I was felt any better they'd have to drug test me. I believe what you're looking for is 'situational ethics'.

Hey RB, that's a good one. Turn is going to rip that off for sure.

560 reine.de.tout  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:05:29am

re: #530 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Friend.. This is the most wonderful time of the year...

Yes, it can be!

re: #535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm perky, ceptin' for the gout. But perky!

So sorry about the gout. I know . . . . send your wife out for cake!
re: #547 realwest

Good morning reine! That's a disninct possibility, especially when mom loses her set of keys to the apartment, mailbox and safety deposit box!


Oh, sorry to hear! But all replaceable, n'est-ce pas? Could have been worse . . .

561 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:05:38am

re: #552 realwest

Ah, well in my (admittedly little) experience, keyboard is more interesting and musically useful than is the guitar - and the football is cool, GREAT game to play and a great game to watch!

If he does play when he gets older, I just hope he is the kicker. The rest of them seem to get hurt awfully bad over time.

562 Geepers  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:05:58am

realwest (#529),

Oh I agree, and try to do so, but how do you make clear something like yesterday when someone mentioned CAFE and Occational Reader quips: "BIG JAUN VALDEZ IS RIPPING US OFF" and then some newbie makes a serious replay about liking coffe and this and that.

I mean how do you even begin to explain the whole back story of BIG _______ IS RIPPING US OFF?

563 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:06:08am

re: #533 MandyManners

So you are saying your son is a cross-dresser? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Different strokes, and all that rot.

:-þ

564 SlothB77  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:06:19am

somebody go to drudge report now and look at his poll. then try to remember the last time he did that with women. and tell me he isn't gay. try to convince me otherwise.

/not that there's anything wrong with that.

565 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:06:41am

re: #557 MandyManners

Quit! I almost sprayed my tea all over my keyboard. How old is he?

566 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:07:16am

re: #555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bullshit! You are the one who has to make it fun. I know people who's children are extreme chores to them.

That is why I think "The Kid" is a lucky little kicker.

Well, kids ARE extreme jobs at times. That's why you gotta' take every chance to have fun.

567 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:07:54am

re: #527 3 wood
Hey, good morning again my friend - I thought I remembered that the unemployment rate during the "Great Depression" was more like 1/3 of all working men (including white collar workers) - and I say men because women hadn't at that point been a significant factor in the workforce?

568 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:07:59am

re: #563 Iron Fist

So you are saying your son is a cross-dresser? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Different strokes, and all that rot.

:-þ

Well, at least he didn't want a grass skirt.

569 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:08:17am

re: #565 turn

Quit! I almost sprayed my tea all over my keyboard. How old is he?

Eight.

570 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:08:22am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Hillary's answer to being chosen for the State Department is not to streamline efforts and clean up the mess at State, but to make it bigger; after all, if you're running a fiefdom, you've got to make sure that you have a big enough bureaucracy to make it worth your time.

At a time when the federal government is spending money worse than any drunken sailor ever could, Hillary's showing that she's ready to spend just as crazily.

Nice.

Meanwhile, Robert Mugabe is showing the love to Obama. He'd rather deal with Obama than Bush. When dictators state their preferences, you ought to pay attention.

571 Lincolntf  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:08:51am

re: #545 Eric Cartman's Conscience

Holy crap. Kerry finds a Swift boat vet who is supposed to validate his wartime experiences and the guy turns out to be a diddler.
Only Kerry could do that. He's such a boob.

572 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:09:17am

re: #524 Iron Fist

The way ammunition is flying off the shelves, I think the only way some of it would be turned back in to the feds would be one round at a time.

573 opnion  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:09:20am

re: #416 badbear

Beckel is a major scumbag. And his party is one big hoodwink. Empty suit Obama is going to have a tough time riding herd on his various flaky constituent groups. Gonna be interesting times.

Barry, won't please everybody. The Dem party is a coalition of interest groups & often competeing interests. Only a god could pull this off & I am beginning to suspect Obama is only human.

574 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:09:38am

re: #564 SlothB77

I read a really interesting article on Drudge quite awhile back. It had me wondering about his disposition, I had the impression he might be gay because of some of the people he associates with. I'll see if I can't find the link ...

575 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:09:56am

Whoops. Former Clinton adviser and current CA Lt. Gov. pleads guilty to child porn charges.

The U.S. attorney's office said 67-year-old Wade Sanders admitted Monday in federal court in San Diego that he possessed a computer with more than 600 sexual images of minors.

Authorities said the computer also contained a 21-minute sex video depicting prepubescent girls.

Lt. Gov. John Garamendi's office said Sanders was Garamendi's senior adviser for veterans and military affairs and resigned the post one day after his Nov. 7 arrest. Sanders also served as deputy assistant secretary of the Navy under Clinton.

A phone line listed under a 67-year-old Wade Sanders in Sacramento was disconnected. Efforts to locate an attorney for Sanders were not immediately successful Monday night.

576 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:10:00am

re: #573 opnion

Barry, won't please everybody. The Dem party is a coalition of interest groups & often competeing interests. Only a god could pull this off & I am beginning to suspect Obama is only human.

BLASPHEMER! :)

577 razorbacker  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:10:32am

re: #535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm perky, ceptin' for the gout. But perky!

Hey, Fat Bastard. I enjoy the gout myself. They have drugs for that, but they have side effects. I get excellent relief from two daily caps of cranberry extract. Cheap stuff, WallyWorld will sell you a bottle of extract for $3.98 (Rexall brand, too).

578 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:10:32am

re: #564 SlothB77

somebody go to drudge report now and look at his poll. then try to remember the last time he did that with women. and tell me he isn't gay. try to convince me otherwise.

/not that there's anything wrong with that.

I ain't looking at Drudge's pole.

579 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:10:56am

re: #558 realwest

Hey, man! I'm doing fine. How are you upon this frosty morning? Yeah, the Aussies came as a real surprise. Apparently there are no men in Austraillia. They are all trendy meterosexuals, and they are OK with being their government's bitch.

If you won't fight when they come to your weapons, you aren't going to be able to fight when they come for you.

580 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:11:15am

re: #532 Geepers
Ah, yes, yes I am! LOL! May watch my Giants DVD from last year again - though first time I watched it I was pissed off that they had - comparatively - so little on the Super Bowl. Musta been betting with the "crowd" on the Pats winning and couldn't get enough info on "tape" about the Giants in the SB, cause I swear that DVD was on the market less than a week after the Super Bowl!

581 HoosierHoops  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:11:31am

re: #536 realwest

Good morning Hoops!
A Happy Hanukka,Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year to you and to all LGFer's!
Maybe Manning v Manning is still on for the SB?


Happy Christmas to you Real!
I want Santa to bring me a Colts vs. Giants SB for Christmas..

582 Nevergiveup  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:11:43am

re: #545 Eric Cartman's Conscience

OT Former Clinton Aide and John Kerry buddy busted for child porn. (at CNN):

"A lawyer who served in the Clinton administration"

"Sanders was chosen by fellow Swift boat veteran John Kerry to introduce him at the 2004 Democratic Convention, when the senator accepted the presidential nomination."

Very sad. really is.

583 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:12:58am

re: #562 Geepers

I don't want to show my ignorance, but I must admit I don't get the whole ? is ripping us off thing. If you could give me a short explanation I would appreciate it.

584 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:13:58am

re: #545 Eric Cartman's Conscience

OT Former Clinton Aide and John Kerry buddy busted for child porn. (at CNN):

"A lawyer who served in the Clinton administration"

"Sanders was chosen by fellow Swift boat veteran John Kerry to introduce him at the 2004 Democratic Convention, when the senator accepted the presidential nomination."

That second paragraph is horrific. Sonofabitch should get the max of 10 years.

585 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:14:59am

re: #562 Geepers

Man, people used to take me as serious when I'd make rather bloodthirsty remarks on the War on Terror. I have a theme song.

By Motorhead.

That alone should eliminate the need for sarc tags, but it doesn't seem to.

586 Silvergirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:14:59am

re: #502 quickjustice

So that hoary Christmas poem , "A Visit from St. Nicholas", better known as "Twas the Night Before Christmas" was written when and where?

Last night I watched a video on Christmas (linked here at LGF) that included this. Clement Clark Moore, a seminary professor wrote it in 1822. Somewhere in the U.S. Where? No elaboration, but from the date I would say eastern U.S.

He's the one who came up with this idea of the Santa and sleigh with reindeer, but the red suit and white beard, etc, came into being later with the cartoonist Thomas Nast.

587 notutopia  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:15:47am

Good Morning All !
I have many gift deliveries to make this good day...
I like doing this part of the preps!

588 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:16:44am

Good morning all from a blustery Baltimore.
I see where Bethesda had a 68...upgraded to 96 inch water main break.
Had to rescue people itrapped in cars in the street from 4 foot of water with helo's and "Swift Water" rescue teams.

Possibly global warming causing the water to boil and rupture the pipe.
Either that, or the 14 degree temps.....I'm not sure which.

589 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:17:02am

re: #586 Silvergirl

Last night I watched a video on Christmas (linked here at LGF) that included this. Clement Clark Moore, a seminary professor wrote it in 1822. Somewhere in the U.S. Where? No elaboration, but from the date I would say eastern U.S.

He's the one who came up with this idea of the Santa and sleigh with reindeer, but the red suit and white beard, etc, came into being later with the cartoonist Thomas Nast.

History Channel junkie?
I watched it the other night. I think I watch it every year.

590 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:18:00am

Oh..and good morning real, and I F.
Long time, no post.

591 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:18:52am

re: #570 lawhawk

They must leave office in peace and give Obama the chance and time to make his own assessment of the situation in our country and build bridges.

I thought that was part of O's plan to revitalize the US economy. Now the whole world thinks O"s going to build bridges everywhere. WTF?

592 Nevergiveup  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:19:17am

re: #588 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Good morning all from a blustery Baltimore.
I see where Bethesda had a 68...upgraded to 96 inch water main break.
Had to rescue people itrapped in cars in the street from 4 foot of water with helo's and "Swift Water" rescue teams.

Possibly global warming causing the water to boil and rupture the pipe.
Either that, or the 14 degree temps.....I'm not sure which.

Well it's not a far drive from DC, maybe the VP was out there with his demolition tools like he did with the Levees in New Orleans?

593 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:19:22am

re: #543 razorbacker
Well situational ethics or moral relativism is what a lot of folks thought (this was on the What Would Leo Szilard Do? Thread) but I reached the conclussions that a) calling most if not all of the "intellectuals" on the Left, intellectuals was quite wrong and since their hatred of the United States goes back to, at least, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, b) the left's definition of Evil had been all screwed up for SO LONG that they no longer have a moral compass at all - zombie agreed and added some intersting additional points which reached pretty much the same conclussion.

594 razorbacker  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:19:42am

Well folks, neighbor called. Seems one of his cows calved night before last in 6 degree weather. He found the poor little critter yesterday but couldn't get it away from the mother.

We're going to go up and try to get the calf into a warm barn and give it a fighting chance.

See y'all later.

595 BignJames  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:21:12am

re: #586 Silvergirl

Interesting nic....Paul Simon inflluenced?

596 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:21:17am

re: #592 Nevergiveup

Well it's not a far drive from DC, maybe the VP was out there with his demolition tools like he did with the Levees in New Orleans?

Good point....
I forgot about that.The dark lord has many powers that we mere mortals caqn not comprehend.

But wait...I thought everything was President Bush's fault?

597 opnion  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:21:32am

re: #576 SteveC

BLASPHEMER! :)

I do expect to be in a reeducation camp anyway. I wonder if it will go tougher on me for questioning the divinity of the Obama?

598 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:22:00am

re: #545 Eric Cartman's Conscience Shit. And the last line from your link is sorta interesting: ""He is a member of the San Diego Police Department Senior Oversight Committee and has served on many non-profit boards," the lieutenant governor's office said."

599 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:22:54am

re: #587 notutopia

Good Morning All !
I have many gift deliveries to make this good day...
I like doing this part of the preps!

re: #594 razorbacker

Well folks, neighbor called. Seems one of his cows calved night before last in 6 degree weather. He found the poor little critter yesterday but couldn't get it away from the mother.

We're going to go up and try to get the calf into a warm barn and give it a fighting chance.

See y'all later.

This is why I'm proud to be associated with LGF; ya'll men and women go about doing good!

600 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:22:54am

Gotta go make the candy.
Later Lizards.

601 Silvergirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:22:58am

re: #589 newsjunkie_ky

History Channel junkie?
I watched it the other night. I think I watch it every year.

Not a junkie, really. I have the inclination, but not often the time. I haven't seen the whole Christmas video either, but just the linked clips. Next year!

602 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:23:14am
603 Nevergiveup  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:23:35am

Incest may not be best, but marriage bans should be rolled back, scientists say

[Link: www.sciam.com...]

Obviously this author never met my first cousins?

604 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:23:41am

re: #591 turn

As for the whole infrastructure thing, Obama's floating the idea of spending billions on infrastructure to "create or save" 3 million jobs. That's at a time when the states themselves are curtailing their infrastructure projects because they don't have the money.

605 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:23:50am

re: #553 SteveC
ROTFL! Good morning SteveC! How are ya doing today?

606 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:24:22am

re: #588 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Good morning all from a blustery Baltimore.
I see where Bethesda had a 68...upgraded to 96 inch water main break.
Had to rescue people itrapped in cars in the street from 4 foot of water with helo's and "Swift Water" rescue teams.

Possibly global warming causing the water to boil and rupture the pipe.
Either that, or the 14 degree temps.....I'm not sure which.

Yeah, Philly is getting blasted with 15 degrees of global warming, too. The only thing hot in this town is the Flyers.

607 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:24:27am

re: #588 Village Idiot's Apprentice

It's the boiling dummy. I bet you even think fire can melt steel, sheesh.
/

608 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:24:31am

re: #588 Village Idiot's Apprentice

That break's not far from here. The main dated from 1954, which makes it a "young adult" main. The infrastructure around DC is truly decrepit. The pipes they're digging up in front of my house right now are from the 20s, and they recently replaced service pipes in my town that were made from cored-out tree logs, which made them 1880-1890 vintage. All winter, the pipes around here go pop-pop-pop as soon as we get a cold snap.

609 wahabicorridor  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:24:46am

re: #584 MandyManners

Sonofabitch should get the max of 10 years.

Well, sometimes life isn't fair.

A 44-year-old doctor who performed oral sex on a male patient at a Stockholm hospital in 2007 has been allowed to keep his licence. The doctor has instead been given three years probation by the Stockholm Medical Responsibility Board (HSAN).

A Swedish modern version of the bible has caused a storm after its launch in the United States. Sexy pictures and men kissing were not deemed suitable material for the US market and have been removed.
The release of "The Book" has caused a storm of protests from religious groups and it's creator, Dag Söderberg, has been subjected to hate mail and threats on community website YouTube, according to the Swedish newspaper Metro.

The original Swedish version of "The Book" was launched in the spring of 2007 and was considered to contain images too sensitive for the more religious US market and has been duly purged of its more sexual content.

"It is because of cultural differences. Sex is very sensitive in the USA," said Dag Söderberg to Metro.

Among the pictures that have been removed include a revealing busty pic of Swedish model Victoria Silverstedt and a graphic photograph of two men engaged in a passionate tongue-entwined embrace.

gotta hop - have a great day everyone!

610 notutopia  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:24:52am

re: #599 SteveC

Agree...we're a darn great bunch of Lizards !

611 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:25:08am

re: #606 Wyatt Earp

Yeah, Philly is getting blasted with 15 degrees of global warming, too. The only thing hot in this town is the Flyers.

I had to laugh at the Greenpeace fools on Chestnut Street last night asking me if I wanted to "fight Global Warming."

612 Geepers  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:26:47am

turn (#583),

Back in the day there was a very contentious poster who was convinced that the oil companies were in collusion to set gas prices artificially high and despite the best efforts by people with a great deal of knowledge and experience in the industry how that isn't, and couldn't, be the case she just wouldn't let go of her delusion. She also had the annoying habit of posting in all caps and bold with 10 exclamation points and would forever end her posts with BIG OIL IS RIPPING US OFF! ! ! ! ! ! so after a while people began ridiculing her by copying her style and posting BIG whatever IS RIPPING US OFF!.

613 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:26:57am

re: #594 razorbacker

When I was a boy, we had a cow who died calving, was below zero. Granny had us bring the calf into the basement of her house, we raised it under the stairs.

"Orphan Annie" as we named her, became a little too tame. Thought she was a "people" (as my grandmother used to say). She'd come up and nuzzle you (meaning, knock your ass to the ground).

Cows are strong. Annie (IIRC) tasted good.

614 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:27:18am

re: #611 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I had to laugh at the Greenpeace fools on Chestnut Street last night asking me if I wanted to "fight Global Warming."

"Fight? We won!"

615 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:27:35am

re: #607 turn

It's the boiling dummy. I bet you even think fire can melt steel, sheesh.
/

Nah...I have a steel Webber grill, and it hasen't melted yet.
Therefore.....fire can't melt steel.

Just ask Rosie.

616 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:27:54am

re: #560 reine.de.tout
Ah, well replaceable if we can find the darned "code key" for the locks on the doors (Medico locks with Segal cylnders, no locksmith can duplicate the way you ordinarily would - ya gotta have the right key code, otherwise change the locks and all and that'd cost us over $300 or $350 dollars!
And of course I put the damn key code someplace safe - so safe I can't find it!
Gah.

617 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:28:02am

re: #605 realwest

ROTFL! Good morning SteveC! How are ya doing today?

Burnin' on Natural Gas.... clean and efficient! :)

618 Silvergirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:28:02am

re: #595 BignJames

Interesting nic....Paul Simon inflluenced?

I do love that part, "sail on silver girl . . ." which is not about drugs. Mainly I chose the name, which was a very quick pick that popped into my head as I saw the open door last month, and got in first try, well, it has a little to do with location.

619 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:28:08am

re: #596 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Good point....
I forgot about that.The dark lord has many powers that we mere mortals caqn not comprehend.

But wait...I thought everything was President Bush's fault?

Chrissy was having a hissyfit last night about Cheney's one word "yes" answer to "was the Iraq was worth it". I like one word answers, it shows conviction and certitude. Liberals never use it.

620 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:28:55am

re: #611 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I had to laugh at the Greenpeace fools on Chestnut Street last night asking me if I wanted to "fight Global Warming."

Yeah, I'll sign your petition as soon as my fingers thaw out! Idiots!

621 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:29:02am

re: #619 turn

Chrissy was having a hissyfit last night about Cheney's one word "yes" answer to "was the Iraq was worth it". I like one word answers, it shows conviction and certitude. Liberals never use it.

Yes.

622 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:29:03am

re: #510 turn

Morning all. AZgirl I'm going to upding you on this. I just logged on and tried to pick up on the tempo here and was immediately hit with this slug fest between Akak and Pietr. Why can't you guys take it to the Lizardlounge or something, quit bringing the rest of us down. This should be a happy time for all.

:^)

623 jwb7605  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:29:14am

Good morning {all}

Pajamas Media link to Jerry Pournelle's site -- this is his viewpoint on the way out of the recession.
Unrelated to the recession, he has a link to a pretty good article published by NASA. A teaser from this article contains this:

"To the lay person, this may sound like a quibble, but to a space physicist, it is almost seismic," says Sibeck. "When I tell my colleagues, most react with skepticism, as if I'm trying to convince them that the sun rises in the west."
624 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:29:16am

re: #617 SteveC

Burnin' on Natural Gas.... clean and efficient! :)

Beans for dinner?

625 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:29:28am

re: #610 notutopia

Agree...we're a darn great bunch of Lizards !

(But the other lizards suck! We hate the other lizards. Just look at them. Sitting there. Not posting. Going about their exciting lives. Gosh, I hate them!)

paraphrased, Paula Poundstone

626 notutopia  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:29:33am

re: #599 SteveC

Steve, BTW, I enjoyed your website 12/22 posting. Good write! And I ask the same question to Obama....
Where will all those docs come from?

627 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:30:11am

re: #562 Geepers
LOL! Yeah, now that I've thought about it, you're right (as usual) but ya gotta admitt that to folks who weren't here then it can come off as, ah, less than respectful or respectable!

628 Geepers  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:30:13am

Iron Fist (#585),

Man, people used to take me as serious when I'd make rather bloodthirsty remarks on the War on Terror. I have a theme song.

By Motorhead.

That alone should eliminate the need for sarc tags, but it doesn't seem to.

Ah yes, the good old days before all the gizmos.

629 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:30:52am

re: #590 Village Idiot's Apprentice


Hey, man! Good to hear from you. Hope everything's right in your world. Things are running pretty smooth for me.

630 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:30:56am

re: #626 notutopia

Steve, BTW, I enjoyed your website 12/22 posting. Good write! And I ask the same question to Obama....
Where will all those docs come from?

Maybe he can pull them out of his.... yes officer, I'll go peacefully.

631 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:31:03am

re: #620 Wyatt Earp

Yeah, I'll sign your petition as soon as my fingers thaw out! Idiots!

To stand outside for hours on the coldest day of the year, convinced that the world is coming to an end in fire, is an act of faith. No one would act that way over facts.

632 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:31:12am

re: #563 Iron Fist
DUCK FIST, DUCK!!
LOL!

633 Nevergiveup  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:31:37am

re: #631 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

To stand outside for hours on the coldest day of the year, convinced that the world is coming to an end in fire, is an act of faith. No one would act that way over facts.

Or sober?

634 Big Steve  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:31:53am

Some of you may not be into this but a recent scholarly paper (abstracted here:Out of Africa Genome Study) suggests that when humans first moved out of Africa there were far more males involved than females. The genetic drift for females in the X chromosome shows far less mutation than expected. I sure that the scholarly reviews will confirm or deny this but it is interesting.....kind of the first Friday night bar scene where the guys outnumber the girls....

635 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:31:55am

re: #619 turn

Chrissy was having a hissyfit last night about Cheney's one word "yes" answer to "was the Iraq was worth it". I like one word answers, it shows conviction and certitude. Liberals never use it.

Hope! Change!

636 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:31:56am

re: #604 lawhawk

As for the whole infrastructure thing, Obama's floating the idea of spending billions on infrastructure to "create or save" 3 million jobs. That's at a time when the states themselves are curtailing their infrastructure projects because they don't have the money.

I think the states will be able to tap into the "federal funds" to move projects forward. In a selfish way I'm all for spending on the highway infrastructure, I make my living off of those funds. Problem is in my line of work the money comes at the very end of the construction projects so recovery is going to take years for me.

637 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:31:57am

re: #631 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

To stand outside for hours on the coldest day of the year, convinced that the world is coming to an end in fire, is an act of faith. No one would act that way over facts.

Brainwashed by Algore. Meanwhile, he has a $2,000/month gas bill.

638 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:33:15am

re: #626 notutopia

kenya?

639 Nevergiveup  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:33:31am

re: #634 Big Steve

Some of you may not be into this but a recent scholarly paper (abstracted here:Out of Africa Genome Study) suggests that when humans first moved out of Africa there were far more males involved than females. The genetic drift for females in the X chromosome shows far less mutation than expected. I sure that the scholarly reviews will confirm or deny this but it is interesting.....kind of the first Friday night bar scene where the guys outnumber the girls....

Well if those women were anything like my wife, if they weren't booked first class, they might have said screw this, and stayed home?

640 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:33:32am

re: #631 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

To stand outside for hours on the coldest day of the year, convinced that the world is coming to an end in fire, is an act of faith. No one would act that way over facts.

Some say the world will end in fire, some say in ice...

641 opnion  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:33:47am

re: #625 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(But the other lizards suck! We hate the other lizards. Just look at them. Sitting there. Not posting. Going about their exciting lives. Gosh, I hate them!)

paraphrased, Paula Poundstone

Well, the really smart , good looking Lizards are in attendance.

642 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:34:12am

re: #641 opnion

Pretty much sums it up!

643 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:34:21am

re: #640 SteveC

Some say the world will end in fire, some say in ice...

I prefer ice. Better for my hockey habit. :)

644 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:34:43am

re: #579 Iron Fist
I think you're right about that - but would expand it so as to say If you won't fight when they come for your guns, how are you gonna fight when they come for you or someone else?" (thinking about Jews and Gays in particular here).
I'm doing ok, temp in apartment is over 63 now and so I've been able to take off mittens!

645 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:35:13am

re: #631 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

To stand outside for hours on the coldest day of the year, convinced that the world is coming to an end in fire, is an act of faith. No one would act that way over facts.

Well, it's an act of faith and an act of responding to the "Earn Money Fighting Climate Change" posters I'm seeing up on the telephone poles. I blame it on Starbucks, laying off coffee jerks.

646 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:35:19am

re: #612 Geepers

HaHa! Thanks so much. I take it that she posted here at LFG, no?

647 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:35:41am

re: #638 phoenixgirl

kenya?

Yes, we ken!

648 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:36:28am

re: #645 Pullus Iulius

Well, it's an act of faith and an act of responding to the "Earn Money Fighting Climate Change" posters I'm seeing up on the telephone poles. I blame it on Starbucks, laying off coffee jerks.

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

649 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:36:36am

re: #629 Iron Fist

Hey, man! Good to hear from you. Hope everything's right in your world. Things are running pretty smooth for me.

Not too bad here.
Mom passed away the friday after thanksgiving.
Flwe home on emergency leave, and they alllowed me to stay here for the holidays.

April I leave there, and head for the next tour out of Norfolk.
Japans nice, but it's too far from my wife and 10 year old.

Plus.....mama said if I'm gonna do the weekend commute I get to pick out my own car.

Ordered the 09 S60 last week to pick up the same day I return to CONUS.

Bittersweet...but good to be home.
Glad to see you posting.
Missed your unique viewpoint.

650 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:36:40am

RW, Thanks for your info and support earlier. I could care less about Karma-I do care about what is right to do! To all others that feel I downed this Hannukah/Christmas season-or thread-I'm sorry. I was very positive upthread, until the upthread crap happened. And someone waiting to attack 6 hours later-with nothing apparent-links all upthread-, is straight out of the communist manifesto, IMHO: pure propaganda. But that's just me. I need to try and catch my Garbagemen to deliver treats, so I'm out. Ooops, not being PC are they called 'Sanitation Engineers'? We treat them with gooies every Christmas, no matter how they are designated. Peace, out-stay frosty my vet friends......Pietr

651 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:36:47am

Morning lizards

Penn (from Penn & Teller) talks about getting a Gideon Bible.

652 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:37:43am

Quack quack quack

653 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:37:50am

re: #588 Village Idiot's Apprentice Hey VIA! Good to see you again! I woulda figured you'd be out with the SBRT's if I'd known you were home!
How is that rescue going? I was watching on Fox News, but I think they interrupted their live coverage for something on Natalie Holloway or whatever, so I left.

654 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:37:59am

re: #615 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Nah...I have a steel Webber grill, and it hasen't melted yet.
Therefore.....fire can't melt steel.

Just ask Rosie.

Dude, charcoal causes global warming. BIG WEBBER IS RIPPING US OFF!

/how's that jeepers?

655 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:38:08am

re: #651 godfrey

If you haven't seen this, I highly recommend it. KT posted it on Saturday.

656 Big Steve  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:38:32am

re: #639 Nevergiveup

Well if those women were anything like my wife, if they weren't booked first class, they might have said screw this, and stayed home?


LOL....my wife's version of camping is dropping down to a 4 star hotel.

657 notutopia  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:38:33am

re: #638 phoenixgirl

Lol... but maybe not as far off as you think...
I have a sneaky suspicion that IS one of his goals.
He will offer free college tuition at one given point in his health care policy for foreign students to offset the declining entries of the US medical professions. Enrollment is way down.

658 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:38:47am

re: #654 turn

Dude, charcoal causes global warming. BIG WEBBER IS RIPPING US OFF!

/how's that jeepers?

Big Diamonds are killing the planet! Buy your wife/significant other cubic zirconias instead!

659 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:38:52am

re: #609 wahabicorridor

gotta hop - have a great day everyone!

Man, Sweden is fucked up.

660 Geepers  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:39:10am

realwest (#627),

LOL! Yeah, now that I've thought about it, you're right (as usual) but ya gotta admitt that to folks who weren't here then it can come off as, ah, less than respectful or respectable!

Oh yeah. And if you didn't live through years of it it can come off as rather superficial.

Hell it was so annoying Charles wrote a widget that disallows you to post 10 exclamation points in a row.

661 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:39:28am

re: #599 SteveC
AMEN!

662 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:39:38am

re: #613 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When I was a boy, we had a cow who died calving, was below zero. Granny had us bring the calf into the basement of her house, we raised it under the stairs.

"Orphan Annie" as we named her, became a little too tame. Thought she was a "people" (as my grandmother used to say). She'd come up and nuzzle you (meaning, knock your ass to the ground).

Cows are strong. Annie (IIRC) tasted good.

I oughta' beat the shit out of you.

663 Nevergiveup  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:40:05am

re: #657 notutopia

Lol... but maybe not as far off as you think...
I have a sneaky suspicion that IS one of his goals.
He will offer free college tuition at one given point in his health care policy for foreign students to offset the declining entries of the US medical professions. Enrollment is way down.

I tell all the kids I know not to go into medicine or dentistry.

664 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:40:26am

re: #659 MandyManners

Man, Sweden is fucked up.

Yeah, but their soccer fans are sweet!

665 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:40:45am

re: #618 Silvergirl

I do love that part, "sail on silver girl . . ." which is not about drugs. Mainly I chose the name, which was a very quick pick that popped into my head as I saw the open door last month, and got in first try, well, it has a little to do with location.

Speaking of quick picking names .. I have to laugh at Midwestgak, she meant to choose Midwestgal but in her haste mistyped it. Ha! Welcome to LGF BTW.

666 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:40:47am

re: #651 godfrey

i was levitated during a show by penn and teller....i still don't know how they did it, my date tried to explain it to me since they revealed the trick to the audience. teller actually spoke to me!

when i saw this vid, i was touched that penn was touched by the gift.......

667 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:40:56am

re: #653 realwest

Hey VIA! Good to see you again! I woulda figured you'd be out with the SBRT's if I'd known you were home!
How is that rescue going? I was watching on Fox News, but I think they interrupted their live coverage for something on Natalie Holloway or whatever, so I left.

Hey real!
I'm tucked in, and freezing my butt off.
We had spent about a month down around Hong Kong and such right before I flew back.
I'm really not used to the cold any more.

Good luck with the heat.
Hope you can take the mittens off soon.

668 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:40:59am

re: #662 MandyManners

Huh? Thought it was a touching story. Had a Walton "The Homecoming" feel to it. Totally true story.

669 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:41:19am

re: #658 Wyatt Earp

Big Diamonds are killing the planet! Buy your wife/significant other cubic zirconias instead!

BIG deBEERS IS RIPPING US OFF!
/Well, honestly, they are, but this is funnier.

670 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:41:28am

re: #655 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks, FBV.

671 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:41:34am

re: #659 MandyManners

Man, Sweden is fucked up.

Add their cultural rot to the fact that their second largest city & main port, Malmo is nearly a Sharia state & you've got big heep trouble up there.

672 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:41:42am

re: #645 Pullus Iulius

Well, it's an act of faith and an act of responding to the "Earn Money Fighting Climate Change" posters I'm seeing up on the telephone poles. I blame it on Starbucks, laying off coffee jerks.

Killing trees to help the environment? Isn't that like fucking for virginity?

673 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:41:44am

re: #669 Honorary Yooper

BIG deBEERS IS RIPPING US OFF!
/Well, honestly, they are, but this is funnier.

UPDING!

674 Dustyvet[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:42:08am
675 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:42:17am

PG!

Levitated, eh? I'm all for levity.

676 yma o hyd  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:42:18am

Hi, Lizard Nation!

Hope all is well with you all, and that you've nearly finished with the preparations for Christmas!

I feel very virtuous, only a few unavoidable things to get tomorrow, and thats it!

677 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:42:27am

re: #603 Nevergiveup
Well I'd wager that "Diane Paul, a political scientist emeritus at the University of Massachusetts, Boston, and Hamish Spencer, head of zoology at the University of Otago in New Zealand." respective family trees don't have many branches, ya know?

678 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:42:31am

re: #672 MandyManners

Killing trees to help the environment? Isn't that like fucking for virginity?

That was my "cause celebre" in college!

679 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:42:51am

re: #675 godfrey

{GODFREY!}

680 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:43:03am

re: #658 Wyatt Earp

Big Diamonds are killing the planet! Buy your wife/significant other cubic zirconias instead!

*WHACK*

681 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:43:16am

re: #672 MandyManners

Killing trees to help the environment? Isn't that like fucking for virginity?

Good work if you can find it.

682 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:43:19am

re: #643 Wyatt Earp

I prefer ice. Better for my hockey habit. :)

I set up a church trip to a minor league hockey game (The Pee Dee Pride, playing in the ECHL) and no one knew what to expect. Our calm, sedate, bank VP pianist was especially hesitant. But a fight broke out 2 minutes in and she was screaming "kill him! kill him! killllllllllllllll him!" at the top of her lungs!

Her friend (Head teller at another branch) came home and told her husband she went "!00% redneck"!

Behold the power of Hockey!

683 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:43:20am

re: #669 Honorary Yooper

BIG deBEERS IS RIPPING US OFF!
/Well, honestly, they are, but this is funnier.

I get a better price on bigger beers. Buy in volume & all that.

684 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:43:47am

re: #606 Wyatt Earp
Howdy Wyatt! Does the cold, REALLY COLD air in Philly cut down some on the crime rate or does it just make y'all wear longjohn's under you're street clothes?!

685 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:43:49am

re: #664 Wyatt Earp

*whack*

686 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:43:51am

Okay, I'm to blame for the big chill in the US. I've stopped using my shiny new propane gas grill. Stopped using it around September, and lo and behold, the weather turned grim and cold. I bet when I start using it again around April it will start getting warm real quick.

Maybe there is something to this manmade global warming after all /

687 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:44:04am

re: #680 MandyManners

*WHACK*

Tee hee hee! Actually, I won't have that problem. Keep it on the down-low, but Mrs. Earp is getting diamond earrings for Christmas.

The result of giving my two children (and my first girl) this year. :)

688 Silvergirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:44:26am

re: #665 turn

Speaking of quick picking names .. I have to laugh at Midwestgak, she meant to choose Midwestgal but in her haste mistyped it. Ha! Welcome to LGF BTW.

Thank you for the welcome, Turn. What? No reminder to clean up shells and get you a beer? Ah, the joy of being over a month old. What's your nic about?

Midwestgak, that's a funny.

689 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:44:31am

re: #644 realwest

What was, for me, the most haunting passage in Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago was a passage where he talked of the Russians waiting in terror for the Secret Police to come and arrest them, rather than fighting back.

And you are right about defending someone else. You pretty much have a duty to resist things like the Nazi Death Camps, or the horror of a Stalinist regime.

690 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:44:32am

Listening to Shire Network News and going quietly quackers.

691 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:44:35am

re: #662 MandyManners

That is also a story about how vegetarianism made sense to me thirty five years later.

692 Geepers  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:44:44am

turn (#646),

HaHa! Thanks so much. I take it that she posted here at LFG, no?

Yes and since banned.

693 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:44:46am

re: #668 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Huh? Thought it was a touching story. Had a Walton "The Homecoming" feel to it. Totally true story.

You ate someone who thought she was a member of the family!

694 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:45:28am

re: #683 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I get a better price on bigger beers. Buy in volume & all that.

this brew is expensive but well worth it......goose island "bourbon county brand stout" great dessert beer. especially for this time of year. makes a great gift for the beer drinker in your life....in your case you!

695 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:45:35am

re: #671 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Add their cultural rot to the fact that their second largest city & main port, Malmo is nearly a Sharia state & you've got big heep trouble up there.

What started the rot? Blind secularlization? Wide-open immigration?

696 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:45:48am

re: #693 MandyManners

You ate someone who thought she was a member of the family!

I was ten!

697 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:45:48am

re: #693 MandyManners

You ate someone who thought she was a member of the family!

That's has more of a Donner Party feel to it.

698 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:45:49am

re: #684 realwest

Howdy Wyatt! Does the cold, REALLY COLD air in Philly cut down some on the crime rate or does it just make y'all wear longjohn's under you're street clothes?!

Morning, Real! The trick is to keep your coffee in your lap while driving your RPC. When your center is warm, the rest will follow. :)

699 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:46:02am

re: #654 turn

Dude, charcoal causes global warming. BIG WEBBER IS RIPPING US OFF!

Actually, it's flatulence that causes global warming. BIG RIPS ARE RIPPING US OFF!

700 notutopia  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:46:23am

re: #663 Nevergiveup

I may understand your feeling here, however, the consequences to our grandchildren's healthcare will be the fruition of that advice.
I try not to discourage those that ask about the profession. Instead, I remind them that they will probably be serving in a government owned system which will pay based on numbers of patients served.
I do not wish to discourage the science fields..but, I do answer direct questions honestly. Like those regarding personal satisfaction in the career.

701 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:46:36am

"Global warming" sounds like we're not even trying. Come on, people! We should be capable of "global heating" at least.

702 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:46:53am

re: #699 SteveC

Actually, it's flatulence that causes global warming. BIG RIPS ARE RIPPING US OFF!

Damn you, Rip Torn!

703 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:47:14am
704 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:47:32am

Ploooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooome

705 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:47:55am

re: #674 Dustyvet

Oh, for fuck's sake. Women need protection from emotional decisions to marry yet sharia allows minor girls to be forced into marriage with an old man?

706 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:48:24am

re: #702 Wyatt Earp

Damn you, Rip Torn!

"If you can dodge a wrench; you can dodge a ball."
-Patches O'Houllihan

707 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:48:25am

re: #623 jwb7605

Good morning {all}

Pajamas Media link to Jerry Pournelle's site -- this is his viewpoint on the way out of the recession.
Unrelated to the recession, he has a link to a pretty good article published by NASA. A teaser from this article contains this:

The magnetic field thing is amazing. You know unbelievable things like this are going on all the time unbeknownst to us lowly humans. But the man made global warming scientists are convinced they have things all figured out. BS, the sun drives the earths weather in combination with "little" things like earth's magnetic fields.

708 yma o hyd  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:48:50am

If you're still looking for something to read over the holidays - get Amity Shlaes 'The Forgotten Man'.
Its about the depression. I'm halfway trhough it, and have had quite a large number of jaw-hits-floor experiences.

Any bets that B0 and his crew have studied these years, and hope to emulate FDR?

709 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:49:13am

re: #706 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"If you can dodge a wrench; you can dodge a ball."
-Patches O'Houllihan

"We're not hosting an interstellar kegger." - Zed

710 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:49:31am

re: #705 MandyManners

At 80, she has plenty to be angry about.

711 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:49:38am

re: #682 SteveC

I set up a church trip to a minor league hockey game (The Pee Dee Pride, playing in the ECHL) and no one knew what to expect. Our calm, sedate, bank VP pianist was especially hesitant. But a fight broke out 2 minutes in and she was screaming "kill him! kill him! killllllllllllllll him!" at the top of her lungs!

Her friend (Head teller at another branch) came home and told her husband she went "!00% redneck"!

Behold the power of Hockey!

It's good that hockey has the relief valve of fighting built in. Probably explains why one doesn't hear stories of hockey players shooting themselves in the leg at nightclubs, or beating up security guards at strip clubs like we see in some sports - NFL, I'm looking in your direction.

712 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:50:01am

re: #649 Village Idiot's Apprentice

My condolences for your loss. Merry Christmas, and happy new year. May the next year far outstrip your wildest expectations.

713 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:50:25am

re: #710 godfrey

At 80, she has plenty to be angry about.

lol, she's going to be one of the virgins the martyrs meet! lol!

714 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:50:26am

re: #708 yma o hyd

If you're still looking for something to read over the holidays - get Amity Shlaes 'The Forgotten Man'.
Its about the depression. I'm halfway trhough it, and have had quite a large number of jaw-hits-floor experiences.

Any bets that B0 and his crew have studied these years, and hope to emulate FDR?

It's freaky how much BHO's ideas about economics are similar to FDR's ideas about economics. Both seem to have the same understanding of economics - none whatsoever.

715 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:50:29am

re: #637 Wyatt Earp
But Al Gore buys Carbon Credits! Of course, he buys 'em from a corporation where he is CEO and largest shareholder, so there's that, too...........!

716 notutopia  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:50:29am

re: #686 lawhawk

Don't put it away yet...you may be cooking on it if we lose power due to the ice storms...
Three years ago, that's how we cooked for 2 weeks without power and heat in the freezing cold!

717 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:50:32am

re: #711 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's good that hockey has the relief valve of fighting built in. Probably explains why one doesn't hear stories of hockey players shooting themselves in the leg at nightclubs, or beating up security guards at strip clubs like we see in some sports - NFL, I'm looking in your direction.

And when you outlaw fighting, the stick play will increase. You need fighting in hockey - at least in the NHL.

718 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:51:21am

re: #711 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's good that hockey has the relief valve of fighting built in. Probably explains why one doesn't hear stories of hockey players shooting themselves in the leg at nightclubs, or beating up security guards at strip clubs like we see in some sports - NFL, I'm looking in your direction.

One might say that the NFL is a sloppy second to the NHL.

719 Geepers  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:51:35am

Hey ploome,

you travelling today?

Not if I don't have to.

Having fun in the snow out there?

720 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:51:48am

re: #715 realwest

But Al Gore buys Carbon Credits! Of course, he buys 'em from a corporation where he is CEO and largest shareholder, so there's that, too...........!

It's like giving yourself a great big Christmas present!

/

721 SteveC  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:51:50am

Time to go, friends - everyone have a great day!

And if I'm not able to get back and post before the 25th, I wish everyone a wonderful Christmas!

722 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:52:01am

re: #635 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hope! Change!

You got me on that one BDVM, two one word liberal answers to everything.

723 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:52:13am

re: #721 SteveC

Merry Christmas!

724 notutopia  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:52:20am

re: #721 SteveC

You have a Great Christmas too Steve!

725 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:52:21am

re: #714 Honorary Yooper

It's freaky how much BHO's ideas about economics are similar to FDR's Vladamir Lenin's ideas about economics. Both seem to have the same understanding of economics - none whatsoever.

You seemed to have a typo

726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:52:29am

re: #709 Wyatt Earp

"We're not hosting an interstellar kegger." - Zed

"Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine; but I do cause it's sterile, and I like the taste."
-Patches O'Houllihan

727 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:52:41am

re: #707 turn

That is great stuff. Check this:

The years ahead could be especially lively. Raeder explains: "We're entering Solar Cycle 24. For reasons not fully understood, CMEs in even-numbered solar cycles (like 24) tend to hit Earth with a leading edge that is magnetized north. Such a CME should open a breach and load the magnetosphere with plasma just before the storm gets underway. It's the perfect sequence for a really big event."

Sibeck agrees. "This could result in stronger geomagnetic storms than we have seen in many years."

Greenpeace types are jumping with joy. This will give global warming nonsense legs for another decade.

728 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:52:46am

re: #718 DeafDog

One might say that the NFL is a sloppy second to the NHL.

Thank you, Sean Avery!

729 opnion  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:53:04am

re: #697 Honorary Yooper

That's has more of a Donner Party feel to it.

They should have used mapquest & avoided some really bad meals.

730 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:53:37am

re: #729 opnion

They should have used mapquest & avoided some really bad meals.

that would make a good commercial/

731 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:53:45am
732 notutopia  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:54:28am

Well, I'm out for the day too. Ya'll have a warm and safe
day out there..wherever you are!
: )

733 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:54:29am

re: #731 ploome hineni

did you see the cow flatulence collection bag?

You mean Joe Biden?

734 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:54:47am

re: #709 Wyatt Earp

"Dimitri, my man, you and I both clean up shit for a living. The only difference is my shit talks back."
-Arthur, The Larry Sanders Show

735 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:54:51am
736 lifeofthemind  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:55:03am

re: #708 yma o hyd

If you're still looking for something to read over the holidays - get Amity Shlaes 'The Forgotten Man'.
Its about the depression. I'm halfway trhough it, and have had quite a large number of jaw-hits-floor experiences.

Any bets that B0 and his crew have studied these years, and hope to emulate FDR?

Studied? No but steeped in mythology? Yes.
The brilliant answer they came up with was equal to their economic policy. That goes, "We can hire people to fix broken windows so first we should hire people to go around breaking windows." Politically it goes like this, "FDR built a great coalition in the Depression and WW-II and our Grandparents worshiped him, so let's start another Depression and pray for global chaos."

737 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:55:34am

re: #731 ploome hineni

Collecting to reduce cow flatulence? Talk about low expectations.

738 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:55:42am
739 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:55:57am

re: #737 godfrey

or big flatuations

740 phoenixgirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:56:27am

re: #738 ploome hineni

what do they do with it?

741 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:56:48am

re: #738 ploome hineni

witness

742 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:57:05am

re: #740 phoenixgirl

what do they do with it?

Breathe deeply.

743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:57:22am

re: #740 phoenixgirl

what do they do with it?

Ever wonder what gives Dr. Pepper that certain something?

744 Alouette  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:57:28am

re: #651 godfrey

Morning lizards

Penn (from Penn & Teller) talks about getting a Gideon Bible.

Rock Raccoon
Went back to his room
Only to find Gideon's Bible
Gideon checked out
He left it no doubt
To help with poor Rocky's revival

745 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:57:38am
746 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:57:58am

re: #705 MandyManners

Oh, for fuck's sake. Women need protection from emotional decisions to marry yet sharia allows minor girls to be forced into marriage with an old man?


Yes, it is for fuck's sake. Even when the "bride" is six years old. Islam is a Religion of Pedophillia. The more I learn about it, the more negative it seems to be.

747 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:57:59am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Ever wonder what gives Dr. Pepper that certain something?

HEY! I like Dr. Pepper!

748 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:58:00am

re: #738 ploome hineni

besides him; the one that straps onto the cow's back

I posted that pic last week

I couldn't resist. I just read the highlights of his interview last night.

Overwhelming

749 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:58:19am

re: #667 Village Idiot's Apprentice Thanks for the good luck wishes! It is sorta amazing how quickly your blood thins - or whatever accounts for - so you feel the cold so much more than other folks seem to, isn't it?
Course, I bitch about the cold anytime the temp drops below 70 degrees!
Sorry to hear about your Mom's passing away, hope it was relatively painless for her - at least you get to spend the holidays with your family and that's always a good thing, just wish it'd been regular leave time or something.

750 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:59:17am

re: #747 Wyatt Earp

HEY! I like Dr. Pepper!

I like roast beef. That also comes from a cow's ass.

751 yma o hyd  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:59:20am

re: #714 Honorary Yooper

It's freaky how much BHO's ideas about economics are similar to FDR's ideas about economics. Both seem to have the same understanding of economics - none whatsoever.

I could not believe my eyes when she told how FDR and his cronies decided what the price of gold was to be on a given day ... FDR just pulled them out of thin air, like 'its going up by 21 cents' - 21 being a 'lucky' number ...

Waht was most interesting was the transition period - inauguration was in March, then, and Hoover tried to get them to support some of the most pressing economic decisions. They weren't playing ball at al - but did just what Hoover wanted to do (and what they rpevented) as soon as FDR was installed in the White House.

That was in 1933 - the year Hitler came to power.
What did his leftie advisers ask him to do? To 'balance' Germany he ought to recognise Stalin's Soviet Union ...

752 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:59:22am

re: #725 DeafDog

You seemed to have a typo

Actually, I don't. FDR had no clue about economics when he won election in 1932. He thought the depression was caused by too much competition. No, I'm not pulling your leg.

753 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:59:26am

re: #714 Honorary Yooper

It's freaky how much BHO's ideas about economics are similar to FDR's ideas about economics. Both seem to have the same understanding of economics - none whatsoever.

BTW - Thomas Sowell made the same point today.

754 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:59:34am

Is it any wonder UNIONS are married to the Democrat party?

what BS.

755 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 7:59:35am

re: #750 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I like roast beef. That also comes from a cow's ass.

Bawahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

756 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:00:17am

re: #688 Silvergirl

Thank you for the welcome, Turn. What? No reminder to clean up shells and get you a beer? Ah, the joy of being over a month old. What's your nic about?

Midwestgak, that's a funny.

No I'm not asking for a beer, but if you want to turn this into a boob thread I'll go for that. Ha! turn is my nickname ..

757 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:00:32am

re: #751 yma o hyd



That was in 1933 - the year Hitler came to power.

What did his leftie advisers ask him to do? To 'balance' Germany he ought to recognise Stalin's Soviet Union ...

And by 1933, Stalin had already murdered more people than Hitler ever would.

758 Dustyvet  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:01:25am

Burger King releases meat-scented cologne

American fast-food chain Burger King has come up with a novel Christmas gift idea for the meat-loving man who has everything: barbecue-scented cologne.


You just can't make this stuff up!

759 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:01:39am

re: #676 yma o hyd
Good afternoon {Yma} only a few unavoidable....?! LOL!
BTW, thank you for the card and I hope y'all check your e-mail this morning!

760 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:01:53am

re: #714 Honorary Yooper

But, but FDR's the man who made the Great Depression Great. We owe him a lot for keeping the Depression going up until WWII. He tried to keep it around for longer, but war got in the way. He kept trying to keep it going up until he came down with a bad case of death.

761 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:01:57am

I saw some of this: The Soviet Story.

762 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:02:28am

Howdy.

Yo, Charles!

NPR this morning did a story on Rathergate. (Or is it Memogate?) Needless to say: 1) they made it sound like poor Dan was terribly wronged, and 2) they didn't mention you (or Powerline) by name, just did an offhand reference to "conservative bloggers" who "slammed CBS and Rather immediately — poring over decades-old typefaces and fonts to charge the documents were forgeries." See, because you horrible right-wingers, in your "immediate" "slamming" of poor Dan, had to pore over font and type trivia... not like, you know, the memo was an obvious, glaring MS Word forgery or anything like that.

Oh, they also ask "Did CBS try to rig the investigation?". Rig it, that is, to include "right-wingers" on the investigative panel, in order to... make themselves (CBS) look stupid. Go figure.

763 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:03:01am
764 Silvergirl  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:03:09am

re: #743 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Ever wonder what gives Dr. Pepper that certain something?

That's the prune juice, not the cow flatulence.

Does anyone here drink Dr. Pepper warmed up in a mug, like Christopher Walken's character in Blast From the Past?

765 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:03:20am

re: #699 SteveC

Actually, it's flatulence that causes global warming. BIG RIPS ARE RIPPING US OFF!

LOL!

766 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:03:23am

OR, why is that story still around? Man, did that ever leave a mark.

767 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:03:23am

re: #758 Dustyvet

Burger King releases meat-scented cologne

American fast-food chain Burger King has come up with a novel Christmas gift idea for the meat-loving man who has everything: barbecue-scented cologne.


You just can't make this stuff up!

Because everyone wants to smell like broiled meat and shame . . .

768 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:03:32am

re: #686 lawhawk
By George, I think you're on to something there! ROFL!
How are you doing today? Have y'all cooled down to where we've been down here in the Southland?

769 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:03:54am

re: #757 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And by 1933, Stalin had already murdered more people than Hitler ever would.

Not true.

The terror famine in the Ukraine had killed between 5 and 8 million people. But the Great Terror didn't begin until 1936. Call Soviet numbers up to 1933 approximately 12 million.

Hitler's war and war crimes directly killed about 50 million people.

770 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:04:46am

re: #758 Dustyvet

Burger King releases meat-scented cologne

American fast-food chain Burger King has come up with a novel Christmas gift idea for the meat-loving man who has everything: barbecue-scented cologne.


You just can't make this stuff up!

I'm not a freakin' brisket.

771 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:05:09am

re: #689 Iron Fist
" You pretty much have a duty to resist things like the Nazi Death Camps, or the horror of a Stalinist regime."
You're such a Neanderthal! You have a Moral Compass and by gosh, Obama's gonna make sure you pay a tax on that!

772 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:05:24am

re: #769 Dianna

Not true.

The terror famine in the Ukraine had killed between 5 and 8 million people. But the Great Terror didn't begin until 1936. Call Soviet numbers up to 1933 approximately 12 million.

Hitler's war and war crimes directly killed about 50 million people.

OK, I wasn't counting the lives lost in the war, just the Holocaust.

773 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:05:50am

re: #768 realwest

Well, it was single digits yesterday... and we might break freezing today in the NYC metro area. Yesterday was just brutal with the wind chill. Good thing I've added insulation to the attic this past week. Not quite done, but it's already making a bit of a difference.

774 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:05:52am

re: #752 Honorary Yooper

Actually, I don't. FDR had no clue about economics when he won election in 1932. He thought the depression was caused by too much competition. No, I'm not pulling your leg.

I was making a joke, but your point is well taken. I posted previously a Thomas Sowell editorial that made the same point.

If you look at the empirical evidence, the only proven way to stimulate economic activity is lowering tax rates. Lowering tax rates gives a direct benefit to productive members of society. The more productive you are, the bigger your benefit. Of course, the Dem's have spent 8 years demonizing this truth as. "handouts for the wealthy," and - unfortunately - the Bush admin played right into their hands by passing that g-d TARP piece of crap.

775 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:05:55am
776 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:06:24am

God, would you go away, Gunga Dan? You've lost. Deal with it

[Link: www.npr.org...]

777 VegasRick  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:06:31am

re: #769 Dianna

Not true.

The terror famine in the Ukraine had killed between 5 and 8 million people. But the Great Terror didn't begin until 1936. Call Soviet numbers up to 1933 approximately 12 million.

Hitler's war and war crimes directly killed about 50 million people.

Well, Bush and Cheney's war has directly killed over 100 million so far!
/moonbat moron

778 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:06:39am

re: #767 Wyatt Earp

Because everyone wants to smell like broiled meat and shame . . .

The fun of a comic book convention, now in a cologne!

779 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:06:42am

re: #698 Wyatt Earp
"When your center is warm, the rest will follow.",well I reckon that's sure true enough! LOL!

780 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:06:57am

re: #772 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

OK, I wasn't counting the lives lost in the war, just the Holocaust.

Even so, Stalin alone (by 1933) hadn't managed to top 10 million. Though he was gamely trying, of course.

781 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:08:08am

re: #752 Honorary Yooper

Actually, I don't. FDR had no clue about economics when he won election in 1932. He thought the depression was caused by too much competition. No, I'm not pulling your leg.

We are about to re-live all that. With the media and the democrat party openly supporting socialist anti-competitive gimme gimme unions and taking a dump all over the ideals of a free market system.

782 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:08:27am

re: #775 ploome hineni

seems like a perfect pairing, Larry King interviewing Joe Biden

/stop banging my head against that wall

I can see King doing this.

783 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:08:57am

re: #727 godfrey

I still think the French had the right way to deal with Greenpeace down cold. I don't know if they'd have the stones to do that anymore. We obviously don't.

784 Nevergiveup  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:09:29am

re: #757 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And by 1933, Stalin had already murdered more people than Hitler ever would.

Well Hitler did give it the old college try?

785 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:09:34am
786 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:09:38am

re: #781 FrogMarch

We are about to re-live all that. With the media and the democrat party openly supporting socialist anti-competitive gimme gimme unions and taking a dump all over the ideals of a free market system.

Prediction - In an effort to boost demand for domestic autos, there will be 'voluntary' import quotas on automobiles by the end of next year.

787 yma o hyd  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:09:41am

re: #753 DeafDog

BTW - Thomas Sowell made the same point today.

From that link:
"There is yet another factor that provides a parallel to what happened during the Great Depression. No matter how much worse things got after government intervention under Roosevelt's New Deal policies, the party line was that he had to "do something" to get us out of the disaster created by the failure of the unregulated market and Hoover's "do nothing" policies."

Here's an interesting footnote from the UK;
Gord and his neostalinist mob are now accusing the Tories as the 'do-nothing-Party' - even though its the Gord economic politics whach have made this mess so very bad for us in the UK.

Oh - and why don't the Tories say what they'd do, you might ask?
Well - they did just that a year ago - and Gord literally stole every one of their proposals for his forthcoming budget. Slightly watered down and overregulated, so it didn't work - but thats why the Tories are definitely not saying anything at this time. Once bitten ...

788 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:09:53am

re: #720 Wyatt Earp
"It's like giving yourself a great big Christmas present!"
And feeling good and charitable about it at the same time!

789 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:10:45am

re: #727 godfrey

That is great stuff. Check this:


Greenpeace types are jumping with joy. This will give global warming nonsense legs for another decade.

You know the earth's magnetic poles have reversed many times throughout the ages, that's pretty wild and unexplained. North becomes south. One of the founders of Greenpeace has wised up and endorsed Nuclear power IIRC.

790 yma o hyd  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:11:11am

re: #757 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And by 1933, Stalin had already murdered more people than Hitler ever would.

Aww - can't make omelettes without breaking eggs ... and they were all class enemies, anyway ...

///

791 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:11:34am

re: #766 godfrey

OR, why is that story still around? Man, did that ever leave a mark.

Why is it still around? Why, because...

"Nobody has ever proven the documents to be anything but what they purported to be," Rather says. "What the documents stated has never been denied — by the president or anyone around him."

And, as James Taranto once famously noted (about someone else), Dan Rather has never denied that he's Queen of the Space Unicorns. So I'd say the jury's still out on that one, too.

792 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:12:32am

re: #776 Jewels (AKA Julian)

God, would you go away, Gunga Dan? You've lost. Deal with it

[Link: www.npr.org...]

All of your linkage is belong to me. (See #762)

793 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:12:51am

re: #788 realwest

"It's like giving yourself a great big Christmas present!"
And feeling good and charitable about it at the same time!

Smugness: The gift that keeps on giving.

794 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:13:14am

re: #781 FrogMarch

FDR also signed the NFA into law in 1934. That was the first Federal gun control law, and one that has been enforced with extreme prejudice on occasion.

795 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:13:38am

re: #737 godfrey
Good morning godfrey! "Collecting to reduce cow flatulence? Talk about low expectations."
Now that there HAS to be on the list of the World's Worst Jobs!

796 yma o hyd  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:14:27am

re: #759 realwest

Good afternoon {Yma} only a few unavoidable....?! LOL!
BTW, thank you for the card and I hope y'all check your e-mail this morning!

Hi {rw} - I did indeed check, glad you liked it, and even more glad your mom liked it!

As for unavoidables - fresh bread, and fresh flowers from the market ... and the papers ... and some herbal medicine, as I get 10% off on a Wednesday ...

Hope you're all keeping warm, its mild, grey and damp here.
Won't be a White Christmas, will be a Grey one ...

797 firedupengineer  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:14:35am

If you haven't seen this already, check out this wonderfully /s Holiday message from Fred...

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

798 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:14:40am

re: #791 Occasional Reader

And, as James Taranto once famously noted (about someone else), Dan Rather has never denied that he's Queen of the Space Unicorns. So I'd say the jury's still out on that one, too.

How can you deny something that is a forgery?

799 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:14:58am

re: #757 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And by 1933, Stalin had already murdered more people than Hitler ever would.

Another way of putting it; by Kristallnacht, Stalin had already completed, in numerical terms, two complete, back-to-back Holocausts. Roughly 20 million murdered by 1938 (according to Martin Amis' figures, which I believe he draws from Robert Conquest).

800 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:15:46am

re: #791 Occasional Reader

I'll go with the "Queen", but leave the space unicorns out of it. They aren't bad. They're just a little horney.

801 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:17:41am

re: #786 DeafDog

Prediction - In an effort to boost demand for domestic autos, there will be 'voluntary' import quotas on automobiles by the end of next year.

yep. Another prediction - the democrat party will force "card check" -AKA- "Employee Free Choice Act" -AKA- Profit killing/business killing UNIONS on those evil "unpatriotic" southern car manufacturers known as Toyota and Honda.

802 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:17:42am

By the way, my nominee for the single most hilarious line in that NPR piece from #762; this on the subject of whether CBS tried to "rig the investigation" by stocking it with horrible right-wingers in order to, um, make CBS... look bad (hey, don't ask me to try to explain the "logic" here):

Internal memos show the journalists at least discussed for the panel were largely ideological figures on the right — including Ann Coulter, Matt Drudge, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and others.

Ultimately, CBS chose Louis Boccardi, the former CEO of The Associated Press, the non-ideological wire service.

BWAAAHAHAHAHAA

Stop it NPR, yer killin' me!

803 gregg  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:18:30am

I saw this over at Ace of Spades, some amazing photos from 2008.

804 opnion  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:18:57am

re: #772 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

OK, I wasn't counting the lives lost in the war, just the Holocaust.


I could be wrong, but I remember reading somewhere that The Great Helmsman Mao had more people executed than either Hiller or Stalin & that Pol Pot eventually topped him.

805 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:19:01am

From Instapundit.....
The top ten media blunders of 2008

806 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:19:49am

re: #775 ploome hineni

seems like a perfect pairing, Larry King interviewing Joe Biden

/stop banging my head against that wall

Two gasbags with very few brain cells between them. It is easier on my head and the walls if I don't actually watch, just read about it later.

807 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:20:28am

re: #794 Iron Fist

FDR also signed the NFA into law in 1934. That was the first Federal gun control law, and one that has been enforced with extreme prejudice on occasion.

LORD HELP US.

808 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:20:35am

re: #804 opnion

I could be wrong, but I remember reading somewhere that The Great Helmsman Mao had more people executed than either Hiller or Stalin & that Pol Pot eventually topped him.

Mao may have murdered more than Hitler or Stalin, but Pol Pot "only" killed between 1 & 3 million people. I think he killed a greater percentage of the population of his country than did The Big Three Monsters of the 20th-Century.

809 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:20:38am

re: #762 Occasional Reader
Good morning O.R. - thanks a lot for that post - I reported it to Charles in the hope he can make a thread out of it!
HEY NPR - Rather, Mapes and CBS were trying to throw an election for POTUS to their candidate with a made up story and forged documents - y'all really ought to read what those "conservative bloggers said and did."

810 Dustyvet  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:20:49am

re: #806 SurferDoc

Two gasbags with very few brain cells between them. It is easier on my head and the walls if I don't actually watch, just read about it later.

Didn't they do that interview in a hot tub?

811 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:22:04am

re: #805 Killgore Trout

OT, thanks for the archlute link you posted on the Preston Reed thread last night. That's an awesome instrument!

/Gaah! ... "awesome"? ... I sound like a Valley Girl! ... barf!

812 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:22:06am

Also from instapundit....
The year in science

813 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:22:53am

re: #799 Occasional Reader

Another way of putting it; by Kristallnacht, Stalin had already completed, in numerical terms, two complete, back-to-back Holocausts. Roughly 20 million murdered by 1938 (according to Martin Amis' figures, which I believe he draws from Robert Conquest).

He does, yes.

The low numbers are appalling. The high numbers are beyond imagination.

814 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:22:56am
815 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:23:33am

re: #811 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm glad people found it interesting, a lot of times people gaze me when I post weird stuff like that.

816 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:23:39am

Dan Rather is the perfect example of metastatic hubris.

817 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:24:08am

re: #809 realwest

HEY NPR - Rather, Mapes and CBS were trying to throw an election for POTUS to their candidate

In the immortal words of Ralphie Wiggum: That's unpossible! "Rather and his team were also exonerated of any political agenda."* NPR says so, it must be true!


*the other contender for the single most hilarious line from that piece, but I give the gold medal to "non-ideological Associated Press", by a nose.

818 SurferDoc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:24:49am

re: #810 Dustyvet

Didn't they do that interview in a hot tub?

...there is a free Bubble Up joke in there but I haven't had enough coffee yet. ;-)

819 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:24:54am

re: #808 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Mao may have murdered more than Hitler or Stalin, but Pol Pot "only" killed between 1 & 3 million people. I think he killed a greater percentage of the population of his country than did The Big Three Monsters of the 20th-Century.

Proportionately, Pol Pot's the worst. Between 20 and 25 percent of the population of Cambodia died.

Even Mao didn't come close.

820 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:24:55am

re: #796 yma o hyd
White or Grey, I do hope it's a Merry Christmas for you and yours!

821 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:25:20am

re: #805 Killgore Trout

From Instapundit.....
The top ten media blunders of 2008

I notice The NYTimes and MSNBC turn up a lot.

Such professional organizations. (not)

822 Geepers  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:25:43am

Occasional Reader (#802),

Ultimately, CBS chose Louis Boccardi, the former CEO of The Associated Press, the non-ideological wire service.

Sure, you know, as opposed to all those other wire services which are ideological.

Who writes this crap?

And the very fact that they have to tell you that AP isn't is proof that they are.

823 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:27:03am

re: #803 gregg
Whoa! Thanks for posting that and for the link as well.
Got that one bookmarked for sure!

824 yma o hyd  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:27:28am

re: #820 realwest

White or Grey, I do hope it's a Merry Christmas for you and yours!

Thanks - and the same for you and yours!

825 Erik The Red  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:28:27am

re: #803 gregg

Thank you.

826 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:28:49am

re: #811 pre-Boomer Marine brat " "awesome"? ... I sound like a Valley Girl! ... "
Fer shure!
Good morning to ya!

828 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:28:59am

re: #819 Dianna

Proportionately, Pol Pot's the worst. Between 20 and 25 percent of the population of Cambodia died.

Even Mao didn't come close.

How dare you presume to judge their colorful local customs from your eurocentric perspective.

829 Iron Fist  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:29:36am

re: #807 FrogMarch


I can't really come up with a description of where we are that doesn't use profanity, so I'm going to quit trying.

Oh, shit! We're all fucked!

(Guess the movie behind the quote :-)

830 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:29:59am

re: #817 Occasional Reader
Yeah, I'd have to agree to the Gold Medal winner. But by more than a nose!

831 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:30:04am

re: #805 Killgore Trout

From Instapundit.....
The top ten media blunders of 2008

It seems to me that the biggest stories the media goofed on was (1) the continued success in Iraq, and (2) the continued debunking of global warming scam. I suppose it's apropos that neither make the list.

832 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:30:04am

re: #815 Killgore Trout

... people gaze me when I post weird stuff like that.

Can I does grovel? ... (-:

I also saw (this AM, wasn't there last night) that you have a Guild 12-string in the basement. Had to whack myself to stop the salivation. I owned at 12-string ages ago, and played AT it. (For an amateur, I was okay -- damnation with faint praise.) The 12-string is a great instrument.

833 lawhawk  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:30:12am

re: #805 Killgore Trout

From Instapundit.....
The top ten media blunders of 2008

Why stop at 10?

834 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:30:16am

Time to disengage the ass from the couch. G'day Lizards!

If I don't see ya before then, Happy Christmas! Merry Hannukah!(sp?) Shitty Kwaanza. Glorious Festivus.

835 jwb7605  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:30:35am

re: #822 Geepers

Occasional Reader (#802),

Sure, you know, as opposed to all those other wire services which are ideological.

Who writes this crap?

And the very fact that they have to tell you that AP isn't is proof that they are.

That's why the media puts [name] (R)-[state] on all negative articles.
the [name]-(D)- stuff goes without saying.
... or something like that ...

836 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:30:37am

re: #827 Throbert McGee

Embattled Warren Gets Break as Hero Pope Selflessly Distracts Gay Snipers!

From your link:

Pope accused of stoking homophobia after he equates homosexuality to climate change

Okay, Throbert, be honest; you've never tried to pick up a guy by saying something like "I've got global warming... in my pants"?

837 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:30:51am

re: #802 Occasional Reader

The Associated Press, the non-ideological wire service.

That alone shows consciousness of guilt.

838 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:31:19am

re: #826 realwest

" "awesome"? ... I sound like a Valley Girl! ... "
Fer shure!
Good morning to ya!

Hi there! What's the weather like in Charlotte?

839 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:31:33am

re: #831 DeafDog

That's right. I think the victory in Iraq deserves to be at the top of the list.

840 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:32:06am

re: #822 Geepers

And the very fact that they have to tell you that AP isn't is proof that they are.

It does have a certain "clumsy Soviet propaganda" ring to it, no?

The Peoples' Scrupulously Fair Tribunal has passed judgment!

841 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:32:30am

re: #834 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Same to you FBV!

842 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:32:35am

re: #836 Occasional Reader

What is the name of that "meat-scented cologne"? The marketing people must have had a field day.

843 Occasional Reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:33:14am

re: #829 Iron Fist


Oh, shit! We're all fucked!

(Guess the movie behind the quote :-)

The Sound of Music?

844 Dustyvet  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:34:07am

re: #842 godfrey

What is the name of that "meat-scented cologne"? The marketing people must have had a field day.

Flame...

845 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:34:08am

re: #838 pre-Boomer Marine brat COLD! It's still at 28 degrees - was 20 or a little less when I got up!
How's about where you are?

846 Yashmak  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:34:30am

I can't believe that in 800 plus comments on an open thread based on a Pratchett quote, nobody has commented on Terry Pratchett's Discworld books.

They're great fun, taking satirical (and hilarious) stabs at the fantasy genre, as well as the foibles of all aspects of humanity (even though many of the characters aren't really human) :)

Great books for a laugh. . .I think he's written several dozen of them now.

847 godfrey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:34:36am

re: #829 Iron Fist

I'm pretty sure that was Audrey Hepburn.

848 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:34:51am

re: #839 Killgore Trout

That's right. I think the victory in Iraq deserves to be at the top of the list.

My worst fear for the coming 4 years is that Obama fumbles the ball there. Irony of ironies, if that happens, it will also go unreported.

849 Dustyvet  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:35:16am

C-Rats roasting on an open fire...:)

850 MandyManners  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:35:28am

re: #815 Killgore Trout

I'm glad people found it interesting, a lot of times people gaze me when I post weird stuff like that.

It mellowed me out and I slept like a baby.

851 Yashmak  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:35:32am

Oh wait, I just noticed there's a comment about Discworld in the mid 300's. . .so my bad. But still, I expected a rousing discussion of Pratchett this morning. You all have let me down.

j/k

852 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:35:46am

re: #846 Yashmak
Uh, (raises hand) guilty your honor - but who is
Terry Pratchett ?!

853 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:36:03am

re: #845 realwest

COLD! It's still at 28 degrees - was 20 or a little less when I got up!
How's about where you are?

36, with icy bridges this AM. Otherwise, okay.

854 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:36:03am

Just got my Christmas bonus. A crisp $100 bill. Two years ago, it was $1000.

855 FrogMarch  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:36:26am

re: #839 Killgore Trout

That's right. I think the victory in Iraq deserves to be at the top of the list.

but but but... "there were no WMDs" - even though we spent the whole of the 1990's listening to liberal pols bitch endlessly about Saddam's scary WMDs.

856 turn  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:36:54am

re: #839 Killgore Trout

That's right. I think the victory in Iraq deserves to be at the top of the list.

What, we won the war in Iraq?
/
Seriously, if I had any faith in the MSM being unbiased to begin with I lost all hope over the last eight years. The non-reporting of the win in Iraq surely should have been on the blunder list.

857 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:36:56am

re: #846 Yashmak

I can't believe that in 800 plus comments on an open thread based on a Pratchett quote, nobody has commented on Terry Pratchett's Discworld books.

They're great fun, taking satirical (and hilarious) stabs at the fantasy genre, as well as the foibles of all aspects of humanity (even though many of the characters aren't really human) :)

Great books for a laugh. . .I think he's written several dozen of them now.

Many of us are crazy about Terry Pratchett. I'm a huge fan.

He's ill, though, so I'm a little uneasy about saying much.

858 DeafDog  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:37:01am

re: #854 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Just got my Christmas bonus. A crisp $100 bill. Two years ago, it was $1000.

Do not pass go. Go directly to your tax assessor and pay $50.

859 Yashmak  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:37:09am

re: #852 realwest

Uh, (raises hand) guilty your honor - but who is
Terry Pratchett ?!


Terry Pratchett's Books

860 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:37:17am

re: #849 Dustyvet
"Fruit cocktail freezing on your tongue"
;')

861 Killgore Trout  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 8:37:18am

Adnan Oktar and his English invasion.....
Muslim creationist Adnan Oktar challenges scientists to prove evolution

The experience felt sinister, but not as sinister as his retinue refusing to give directions to the interview location.