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Creation
by Kenneth Patchen

Wherever the dead are there they are and
Nothing more. But you and I can expect
To see angels in the meadowgrass that look
Like cows -
And wherever we are in paradise
in furnished room without bath and
six flights up
Is all God! We read
To one another, loving the sound of the s’s
Slipping up on the f’s and much is good
Enough to raise the hair on our heads, like Rilke and Wilfred Owen

Any person who loves another person,
Wherever in the world, is with us in this room -
Even though there are battlefields.

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1 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 10:56:02pm

Oooh, no troll stench (so far!)

2 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 10:57:06pm

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah!

3 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 10:58:35pm

Dammit. If Iron Fist would only have started this one off with

Heh™

DRINK!

That might have started something.

At least an intro to a poem I've been working on...

4 jonahsand  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 10:58:48pm

Obama needs to "internal review" this Warren dude. That should solve some problems.

5 JCM  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 10:58:56pm

This open thread is declared Troll Free!

6 JCM  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 10:59:19pm

re: #5 JCM

This open thread is declared Troll Free!

Damn, spoke too soon.

7 occasional reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 10:59:20pm

This poem reads a bit like a tfk post.

8 Cygnus  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:00:23pm

re: #5 JCM

This open thread is declared Troll Free!

But not Santa Free. Loved the water-skiing Santa on the last thread. I've never seen him live but usually just on the news.

9 Macker  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:02:05pm

Yay! First Christmas Eve/Christmas Day combo I've had OFF in God knows how many years!

10 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:02:08pm

re: #5 JCM

This open thread is declared Troll Free!

That is just like waving a red flag before a bull, not a wise decision.

/ yes, I know bulls are really color blind so they only react to the motion. Party poopers all that make me explain my sarcasm. FIE! ;)

11 JCM  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:02:53pm

re: #8 Cygnus

But not Santa Free. Loved the water-skiing Santa on the last thread. I've never seen him live but usually just on the news.

I've been on the 520 a couple of times when he's made his run. Brave man water skiing in 20 some degree weather.

12 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:03:09pm

Thought. The weapon of choice againsts the enemies of the mind.

~Dan G.

13 occasional reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:03:10pm

Viva el New Jersey Turnpike. Easy drive.

14 JCM  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:03:44pm

re: #10 FurryOldGuyJeans

That is just like waving a red flag before a bull, not a wise decision.

/ yes, I know bulls are really color blind so they only react to the motion. Party poopers all that make me explain my sarcasm. FIE! ;)

LOL!

/I get the point!

15 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:04:46pm

A Map of the world I like.

16 zombie  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:04:57pm

Charles, I was hoping you'd see this, perhaps as a fitting post to end the day: A Tuesday bookended by Dan Rather-themed posts!

Dan Rather gives taped promo introduction for a show featuring an anti-Semitic speech:

Blatant Anti-Semitism today on KPFA radio in Berkeley

On today’s “Hard Knock Radio” program on KPFA in Berkeley, a speech by Hunter College Professor Marimba Ani was broadcast in which she claims Obama is controlled by the Jews.

Click on this link to hear the audio clip (mp3):

Marimba Ani on KPFA’s “Hard Knock Radio, December 23, 2008.

The audio speaks for itself.

Here is the transcript of the audio clip, which is two minutes long. The first minute or so is simply context: introducing the show, including a comical promotional announcement for the program by, of all people, Dan Rather.

In the transcript below, ellipses indicate portions of the one-hour show that were left out — only the crucial section is included. See the end of this post for a link to the full show on the KPFA site, if you’re interested.

Radio announcer: “Welcome to Hard Knock Radio. My name is Mike Biggs here at the controls. Today on the program we bring you highlights of the great Harlem Obama Debate that took place December 14th at the St. Mary’s Church in Harlem, New York, posing the question, ‘Is the Obama Election Good for the Black Community?’”
…
Dan Rather: “Hello, I’m Dan Rather. When I’m in the Bay, I keep it locked to Hard Knock Radio: news, views and hip-hop. Peace.”
...
Marimba Ani [speaking about Obama's campaign]: “…Who did the financing? … They had a long history, in Chicago. Which brings me to the next warning, the next what I see as implication of this, and that is the Jewish connection, which must be understood...

etc.

Dan Rather has fallen so low, so fast that he now will record promo announcements for any show that will have him, no matter how egregious or insane the show is. He obviously never bothers to even check them out! Just hand him a microphone, and he'll do a promo announcement for anybody. He is just so desperate to be on air, and to have his voice heard, that he'll stoop to any depths.

What a sorry spectacle.

17 occasional reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:05:29pm

re: #5 JCM

This open thread is declared Troll Free!

Why do you hate God and Christians?

/

18 SWPaul  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:05:30pm

Well, goodnight all. It's midnight and I've got a lot of bike riding to do tomorrow. Oh darn... :)

Merry Christmas Eve!

19 JCM  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:05:43pm

re: #15 rawmuse

A Map of the world I like.

ROFLMAO!

Bookmarked.

20 JCM  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:06:29pm

re: #17 occasional reader

Why do you hate God and Christians?

/

Now, you know I don't...
They make good sport in the circus!

/

21 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:06:30pm

re: #16 zombie

I find it strangely comforting to see the bastard is the dregs from the bottom of the FMSM barrel now. :)

22 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:07:43pm

re: #7 occasional reader

This poem reads a bit like a tfk post.

Why do you think I hold that tfk is a poet? And actually, quite a good one.

23 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:08:28pm

re: #22 Dianna

Why do you think I hold that tfk is a poet? And actually, quite a good one.

His posts are eerily evocative as free-form verse.

24 occasional reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:08:29pm

re: #20 JCM

Now, you know I don't...
They make good sport in the circus!

/

God vs. Lions?

25 JCM  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:09:44pm

re: #24 occasional reader

God vs. Lions?

Only as Jesus, wouldn't be fair otherwise...

26 gmsc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:10:02pm

In less than 4 hours from now, Santa takes off on his annual journey, and NORAD begins tracking him!

27 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:10:29pm

re: #23 FurryOldGuyJeans

His posts are eerily evocative as free-form verse.

Yes, they are. It took me months to figure that out.

28 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:10:59pm

re: #20 JCM

Now, you know I don't...
They make good sport in the circus!

/

The half-time show as always good.

///

29 occasional reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:11:46pm

re: #22 Dianna

Why do you think I hold that tfk is a poet?


I assumed it was because you wanted to get in his pants.

Kidding!

30 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:12:05pm

re: #27 Dianna

Yes, they are. It took me months to figure that out.

I had to take a sabbatical from lgf of quite a few months for me to see the true nature of his musings.

31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:12:34pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

[finger]

32 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:13:00pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah!

Its Christmas Eve here in East Africa. God bless each of you who have shared your kindness and goodwill, and even those who have been unkind to us.

33 Buster Bunny  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:13:45pm

re: #26 gmsc

In less than 4 hours from now, Santa takes off on his annual journey, and NORAD begins tracking him!

Any deviations from the standard path this year and Santa will be intercepted by missiles and brought down to Earth. There is no room for taking chances even with regular consistant flight paths.

34 occasional reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:13:46pm

re: #27 Dianna

Yes, they are. It took me months to figure that out.

Not to brag, but I noted that years ago.

35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:14:00pm

re: #15 rawmuse

Crazy avatar!

36 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:14:18pm

re: #29 occasional reader

I assumed it was because you wanted to get in his pants.

Kidding!

You'd best be - Ms. TFK sounds quite formidable!

37 gmsc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:14:39pm

re: #33 Buster Bunny

Any deviations from the standard path this year and Santa will be intercepted by missiles and brought down to Earth. There is no room for taking chances even with regular consistant flight paths.

Being a bunny, I'm guessing you're more willing to cut the Easter Bunny some slack?
;)

38 Dan G.  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:15:05pm

Good night all.

Eat a lot, enjoy your loved ones, and be proud that you've been productive enough to enjoy such luxuries.

39 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:15:07pm

I went to bed. Y'all didn't see it. But I went to bed.

Happy Whatever!

40 JCM  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:15:14pm

re: #34 occasional reader

Not to brag, but I noted that years ago.

I'll admit it, I'm a poetic nincompoop, missed it entirely.

I'll have to look closer.

41 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:15:27pm

re: #34 occasional reader

Not to brag, but I noted that years ago.

Er...years ago, I noted it, and you complained that it wasn't worth wading through.

42 occasional reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:15:47pm

re: #36 Dianna

You'd best be - Ms. TFK sounds quite formidable!

Only one way for you ladies to settle this.

I'll start making the Jello.

43 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:15:57pm

re: #35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Crazy avatar!

you're welcome. it is a clay figure.

44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:16:12pm

re: #43 rawmuse

you're welcome. it is a clay figure.

Really?

45 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:16:43pm

re: #42 occasional reader

Only one way for you ladies to settle this.

I'll start making the Jello.

No, Ms. TFK can keep him, and I'll keep my Male.

Even if he does like jazz.

46 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:16:47pm

re: #40 JCM

I'll admit it, I'm a poetic nincompoop, missed it entirely.

I'll have to look closer.

The fact that he composes in free form without rhymes would confuse most people.

47 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:17:20pm

re: #37 gmsc

Now gmsc, you know the Easter Bunny has thousands of bunny helpers, and uses only ground transport...LOL.

48 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:17:25pm

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really?

Would I lie? About that, I mean :)

49 occasional reader  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:17:28pm

Good night, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah.

50 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:18:15pm

re: #46 FurryOldGuyJeans

The fact that he composes in free form without rhymes would confuse most people.

His rhythm, though, is quite good. And some of his images are striking.

What I wish he'd do, though, just to be nice, is break his lines a little more consistently.

51 Racer X  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:18:33pm

We are all going to die. You, Me, the Earth, Sun, and all the Stars in the sky.

When is the only question.

52 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:18:36pm

re: #49 occasional reader

Good night, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah.

Night!

53 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:19:03pm

re: #51 Racer X

We are all going to die. You, Me, the Earth, Sun, and all the Stars in the sky.

When is the only question.

Um...is there something you need to share?

54 Buster Bunny  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:19:07pm

re: #37 gmsc

Being a bunny, I'm guessing you're more willing to cut the Easter Bunny some slack?
;)

We are also watching the 'evil' bunny for the possibility of traces of melamine used in the making of the chocolate that goes into the Easter Eggs. All eggs containing traces of melamine, lead, and used radioactive waste will be siezed by customs and processed for resale on foreign markets.

55 Sharmuta  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:19:28pm

re: #31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Merry [bleeping] Christmas.

56 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:19:33pm

re: #16 zombie

Charles, I was hoping you'd see this, perhaps as a fitting post to end the day: A Tuesday bookended by Dan Rather-themed posts!

Dan Rather gives taped promo introduction for a show featuring an anti-Semitic speech:

Blatant Anti-Semitism today on KPFA radio in Berkeley

etc.

Dan Rather has fallen so low, so fast that he now will record promo announcements for any show that will have him, no matter how egregious or insane the show is. He obviously never bothers to even check them out! Just hand him a microphone, and he'll do a promo announcement for anybody. He is just so desperate to be on air, and to have his voice heard, that he'll stoop to any depths.

What a sorry spectacle.

Poor Dan... he is down and desperate. Perhaps this humbling episode will teach him that blatant dishonesty and a know it all attitude can make people angry and even despise you.

57 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:19:33pm

re: #51 Racer X

We are all going to die. You, Me, the Earth, Sun, and all the Stars in the sky.

When is the only question.

Trying to cheer us up or something?

58 gmsc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:19:36pm

Everybody's waiting for Christmas, but let's not forget another famous December 25 event!

Below is an interesting sonnet that commemorates the event.

It's written within a particular constraint. Can you figure out what the constraint is? I'll post the answer at 11:30.


Washington Crossing the Delaware
by David Shulman (1936)

A hard, howling, tossing water scene.
Strong tide was washing hero clean.
"How cold!" Weather stings as in anger.
O Silent night shows war ace danger!

The cold waters swashing on in rage.
Redcoats warn slow his hint engage.
When star general's action wish'd "Go!"
He saw his ragged continentals row.

Ah, he stands - sailor crew went going.
And so this general watches rowing.
He hastens - winter again grows cold.
A wet crew gain Hessian stronghold.

George can't lose war with's hand in;
He's astern - so go alight, crew, and win!

59 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:20:01pm

re: #50 Dianna

His rhythm, though, is quite good. And some of his images are striking.

What I wish he'd do, though, just to be nice, is break his lines a little more consistently.

His muse drives him to heights rarefied indeed. Convention and consistently, in my opinion, would mar the beauty.

60 JCM  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:20:03pm

re: #46 FurryOldGuyJeans

The fact that he composes in free form without rhymes would confuse most people.

I'd sit in English lit classes and for most of the poetry I'd be WTF are they talking about. A lot of it I get, but sometimes to me, they go off the deep end. I always got good grades in lit, even had some poetry published in the College Lit magazine.

Just one of those areas that I have a blind spot.

61 ClosetConservative  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:20:56pm

You know what I like about that poem? It's not written by the new national poet, who has penned some really, REALLY crappy verse.

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

62 Buster Bunny  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:21:07pm

re: #16 zombie

Dan who?

63 Syrah  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:21:29pm

I think there is a consensus here.

The argument is as settled as gorablewarming.

We have a Lizard here who is hands down a far better poet than the embarrassments picked by both Clinton and The Obama.

64 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:21:35pm

re: #59 FurryOldGuyJeans

His muse drives him to heights rarefied indeed. Convention and consistently, in my opinion, would mar the beauty.

*PIMF* Consistency, not consistently. *sigh*

65 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:21:36pm

re: #46 FurryOldGuyJeans

The fact that he composes in free form without rhymes would confuse most people.

That, and he leaves out "Burma Shave" on the end.
just kidding, tfk, put down the knife!

66 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:22:19pm

re: #65 rawmuse

That, and he leaves out "Burma Shave" on the end.
just kidding, tfk, put down the knife!

Sneering critic, FIE! ;)

67 gmsc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:23:12pm

re: #65 rawmuse

That, and he leaves out "Burma Shave" on the end.
just kidding, tfk, put down the knife!

Personally, I like the Burma Shave signs!

68 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:23:12pm

re: #16 zombie

"sorry spectacle". Couldn't be phrased better, Dan is perhaps analogous in a way, to a washed up athlete who appears in TV commercials selling lawn tractors.

69 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:23:13pm

re: #15 rawmuse
I like it too, but they ought to carve out a little piece for Israel as a sorta America like or somesuch! And add in for Canada "America's Next State" ! LOL!

70 JCM  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:24:04pm

I'm out for the night too.

See ya'll on tomorrow.

71 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:24:06pm

re: #69 realwest

Notice the artist left Africa out. Entirely!

72 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:24:11pm

re: #68 Bacchus's daddy

"sorry spectacle". Couldn't be phrased better, Dan is perhaps analogous in a way, to a washed up athlete who appears in TV commercials selling lawn tractors.

Selling Lite Beer. *urghle*

73 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:25:22pm

re: #27 Dianna
Indeed Dianna - but I must confess it took me a little longer to "get" them, but they were usually worth the wait!

74 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:25:38pm

re: #68 Bacchus's daddy

"sorry spectacle". Couldn't be phrased better, Dan is perhaps analogous in a way, to a washed up athlete who appears in TV commercials selling lawn tractors.


No way... Dan is far worse... a retired athlete at least is using his celebrity to do honest work and earn a living... Dan is trying to earn money in order to pay lawyers to justify his lying.

75 Buster Bunny  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:25:56pm

re: #68 Bacchus's daddy

"sorry spectacle". Couldn't be phrased better, Dan is perhaps analogous in a way, to a washed up athlete who appears in TV commercials selling lawn tractors.

Wow. Dan Rather is a washed up athlete?

Three parts dont click there

(1) Does he actually wash?

(2) Does the bar fridge opening really count as strenuous exercise?

(3) Was there a LAWN font in 1973?

76 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:26:00pm

re: #61 ClosetConservative

Boy, that is bad. And, I don't mean good, bad, I mean, bad, bad.

77 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:26:12pm

re: #67 gmsc

Bookmarked...Heh heh.

For Buster Bunny...
On curves ahead
Remember, sonny
That rabbit's foot
Didn't save
The bunny
Burma-Shave

78 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:26:13pm

re: #63 Syrah
Indeed and absolutely!

79 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:26:16pm

re: #68 Bacchus's daddy

*Gulp!*

I'm afraid to ask, but I must. What do athletes and lawn tractors have to do with each other?

I could see using a washed-up race car driver, perhaps.

80 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:28:45pm

re: #74 shanec99
"Dan is trying to earn money in order to pay lawyers to justify his lying.in an attempt to throw a US Presidential election."
There, fixed that for you!

81 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:29:14pm

re: #79 Dianna

*Gulp!*

I'm afraid to ask, but I must. What do athletes and lawn tractors have to do with each other?

I could see using a washed-up race car driver, perhaps.


Here in Wisconsin, washed-up athletes do actually sell lawn tractors (in commercials) sometimes. :) I acknowledge that the analogy wasn't perfect and could be construed as defamatory to washed-up athletes.

82 Buster Bunny  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:29:16pm

re: #77 Pietr

Bookmarked...Heh heh.

For Buster Bunny...
On curves ahead
Remember, sonny
That rabbit's foot
Didn't save
The bunny
Burma-Shave

Holding onto this rabbits foot. Kinda fond of it !

83 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:29:39pm

re: #79 Dianna

*Gulp!*

I'm afraid to ask, but I must. What do athletes and lawn tractors have to do with each other?

I could see using a washed-up race car driver, perhaps.

What does honesty and Liberal journalist have to do with each other except something they should aspire to?

84 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:31:02pm

re: #80 realwest

"Dan is trying to earn money in order to pay lawyers to justify his lying.in an attempt to throw a US Presidential election."
There, fixed that for you!


heh heh... brilliant... now why didn't I think of saying it as articulately as you did?

85 gmsc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:31:24pm

re: #58 gmsc

It's written within a particular constraint. Can you figure out what the constraint is? I'll post the answer at 11:30.


Washington Crossing the Delaware
by David Shulman (1936)

A hard, howling, tossing water scene.
Strong tide was washing hero clean.
"How cold!" Weather stings as in anger.
O Silent night shows war ace danger!

The cold waters swashing on in rage.
Redcoats warn slow his hint engage.
When star general's action wish'd "Go!"
He saw his ragged continentals row.

Ah, he stands - sailor crew went going.
And so this general watches rowing.
He hastens - winter again grows cold.
A wet crew gain Hessian stronghold.

George can't lose war with's hand in;
He's astern - so go alight, crew, and win!

No guesses?

Here's the answer:

Each line of the poem is an anagram of the title - Washington Crossing the Delaware!

86 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:31:38pm

re: #81 Bacchus's daddy

Here in Wisconsin, washed-up athletes do actually sell lawn tractors (in commercials) sometimes. :) I acknowledge that the analogy wasn't perfect and could be construed as defamatory to washed-up athletes.

Even Plato said unkind and dismissive things about former athletes.

87 rawmuse  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:31:50pm

re: #16 zombie

I think Dan deserves all this, and maybe a little more. To die a discredited pauper is not unreasonable thought, but, what the heck, it's Christmas, so simply discredited and desperate is enough for me.

And with that, I bid all Lizards a good night!

88 realwest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:32:58pm

Well I gotta go get some sleep here! I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

89 gmsc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:33:43pm

re: #88 realwest

Well I gotta go get some sleep here! I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

Good night!

90 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:34:14pm

re: #83 shanec99

Maybe to disprove the old saw about opposites attract. This is true in electronics, magnetism, polarized items.etc,-but there is an exception to every rule; guess you found this one. I believe that gives you naming rights...LOL.

91 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:35:40pm

re: #87 rawmuse

I think Dan deserves all this, and maybe a little more. To die a discredited pauper is not unreasonable thought, but, what the heck, it's Christmas, so simply discredited and desperate is enough for me.

And with that, I bid all Lizards a good night!


He has paid his due... I wish him luck, and I hope he has learned something about hubris, dishonesty and the consequences. If he has not then I am sure that there a people watching him who will be willing to administer another lesson to him.

Let's hope that there is no need for that.

92 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:35:51pm

re: #86 Dianna

Even Plato said unkind and dismissive things about former athletes.

But I don't think his "republic" would have abided Rather's kind.

93 Pietr  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:36:31pm

re: #87 rawmuse

re: #88 realwest


Night, nights...

94 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:37:35pm

re: #90 Pietr
A pox on you and all your house hold... heh heh

95 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:38:49pm

re: #92 Bacchus's daddy

But I don't think his "republic" would have abided Rather's kind.

Well, it is the perfect totalitarian state...

96 Buster Bunny  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:40:07pm

re: #92 Bacchus's daddy

But I don't think his "republic" would have abided Rather's kind.

Oh they loved people like Rather ! Even to the point they would nail them to posts in the street just so they could enjoy them longer !

97 lesbianrainforest  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:41:47pm

re: #85 gmsc
Cool. Even the post was an anagram. (58 - 85)

98 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:42:14pm

re: #96 Buster Bunny

Oh they loved people like Rather ! Even to the point they would nail them to posts in the street just so they could enjoy them longer !


Man that is rough... I guess back then they wrote the news in blood huh?

99 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:42:31pm

Pardon the language, but I don't think I'm the only "lover of truth/ detester of bullshit" around here who takes a certain pleasure in seeing Dan pimp himself out to any media forum (no matter how marginal or disreputable) that will give him exposure. Is schadenfreude always wrong?

100 gmsc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:45:52pm

re: #97 lesbianrainforest

Cool. Even the post was an anagram. (58 - 85)

Good point! I didn't even catch that.

"I meant to do that! Yeah! That's the ticket!"
;)

101 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:45:54pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah!

and a hearty "Bah. Humbug!" to one and all...

102 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:46:49pm

re: #101 redc1c4

and a hearty "Bah. Humbug!" to one and all...

You need to get stuffed (with some holiday cheer, that is) ;)

103 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:50:14pm

re: #99 Bacchus's daddy

Pardon the language, but I don't think I'm the only "lover of truth/ detester of bullshit" around here who takes a certain pleasure in seeing Dan pimp himself out to any media forum (no matter how marginal or disreputable) that will give him exposure. Is schadenfreude always wrong?


My wish is that Rather would return to journalism as a honest reporter. It is my wish... perhaps if he reformed it could impact standards in journalism. It cannot be good to have a man humiliated into perpetuity, there must be an opportunity for repentance, forgiveness and redemption.

104 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:50:36pm

Twas the night before, the night before Christmas
And all through this irreverent blog
Fist started it off with, "Heh™ Drink!"
And then the assembled started to slog

Twas a Friday, you see, the F-N-D-T
And this was more than just a Festivus Occasion
The Newbie, Noam Sayin', tried to catch himself playin
With the legend, Amalie, in her jacuzzi

Drinkin' it seemed, was the order of the night
As practiced by the whole kit 'n' kaboodle
But with Dustoff and Bubble Girl somewhere out of site,
The drunken gossip turned to the "Holiday Canoodle"

With DesertSage in a comfortable Mezcal haze
And Noam, the newbie, feeling his oats (Schell's Caramel Bock, actually)
A butt-cheek from a poetess, though most of us didn’t notice
Turned us into a randy, some would say, sexist daze

Twas a smack on the butt, of yon poetess
And of course, the numerous drinks
That turned a collection of stalwartly gentlemen studs
Into all sorts of cads, curs, and deviant cuss

The fence, was not so much a fence, as a rail
And the fountain was definitely not a urinal
Sorry, Dustoff, godfrey put me up to it
Charles has a cleanup bill, for your perusal

But twas all in fun, we figured – no less or more
Twas a Friday night, and the night before Christmas
Most of us didn’t have to drive four frickin’ hours early the next day
Dammit! I’ve lost my train of thought, had a good-humored rhyme about Jews and the Chinese buffet starting at four;

The wine and the emails are taking their toll
Damn! It’s after one o’clock, let’s get back on a roll
Buzzsawmonkey would scoff at your offering
“But it’s only joyous and good-humored tidings I bring”

“Your poetry sucks, Noam.” I’m sure he’d say
“But surely the security company, the police visits…” I’d plead to this day
Have hampered my muse, you’ll understand, hey?
“No, Noam.” He’d respond, “But let it not get you down”
“There will be another Christmas for you to throw down”

Easy for you, I’d say, you’ve just rhymed down with ‘down’
But it’s your poem, Noam. Me? I’m renown.

Damn, it’s one-thirty, and I’m completely stuck
I just wanted to wish you all some luck
But I should retire, for a long drive tomorrow
Lest you drunken bastards mistake me for Thoreau

Merry Christmas to many
Happy Hanukah to many others
Good tidings and happy holidays to all of my brothers

And to you sisters, who us men adore
You are the reason we all want some more

Dammit! I can’t end this! Buzz, please help me.
No, Noam. It’s your ride.
If I tried they might scalp me.

You bastard! I’m trying to get off of this ride
“”Just say ‘good night,’ Noam, and let it ride”

See, man? There you go – rhyming ‘ride’ with ‘ride,’ just like you did with ‘down’


“Just go to bed, Noam.”

Okay

Thanks, Buzz.

105 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:51:37pm

re: #95 Dianna

Well, it is the perfect totalitarian state...

Where would Dan have come down? Would his admiration for state art/info/thought control and intrusion on individual liberties have trumped his recogntion that a lying mosquito like himself would be quickly and severly dealt with?

106 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:52:43pm

re: #104 Noam Sayin'

Good work!

107 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:53:43pm

re: #105 Bacchus's daddy

Where would Dan have come down? Would his admiration for state art/info/thought control and intrusion on individual liberties have trumped his recogntion that a lying mosquito like himself would be quickly and severly dealt with?

I'm too tired to delve into this far, but I remind you that in Plato's Republic, artists are banned. They are welcomed and honored and escorted to the border without being allowed to stop!

108 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:53:49pm

re: #51 Racer X

We are all going to die. You, Me, the Earth, Sun, and all the Stars in the sky.

When is the only question.

well, that and did your life *mean* anything?

/Marines, Medics/Corpsmen, Grunts & Cav Troopers are exempt from the 2nd question

109 gmsc  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:54:38pm

re: #104 Noam Sayin'

Twas the night before, the night before Christmas
And all through this irreverent blog
Fist started it off with, "Heh™ Drink!"
And then the assembled started to slog

Tweeze denied beef worker isthmus
Tweeze denied beef worker isthmus, winnow Trudy how’s,
Knot agreed juries during, gnaw Tiffany moss.

110 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:55:31pm

re: #56 shanec99

Poor Dan... he is down and desperate. Perhaps this humbling episode will teach him that blatant dishonesty and a know it all attitude can make people angry and even despise you.

not freakin likely...

111 Dianna  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:55:32pm

I'm falling on my face, so I give you all a hearty Merry Christmas, Happy Hannuka (however that's spelled) or extended Solstice Celebration, as the mood takes you.

Good night!

112 redc1c4  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:56:57pm

re: #102 FurryOldGuyJeans

You need to get stuffed (with some holiday cheer, that is) ;)

that's ok: i got a lecture this evening about my negative outlook on life.

(at least i think that's what she was saying... %-)

113 shanec99  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:57:28pm

Take care yall... I gotta go and work out.

114 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:58:06pm

re: #107 Dianna

Sorry, I had forgotten that they were banned altogether. Took my BA in philosophy back in '94, and Plato is one I have revisited very little since then. Amazing thinker for his time and context, but lacking the benefit of accreted knowledge and experience over recorded centuries.

115 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:58:47pm

re: #109 gmsc

Ah, geez, man. I barely got thoreau my own poem...

116 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Dec 23, 2008 11:59:30pm

re: #113 shanec99

Take care yall... I gotta go and work out.

Who works out on a Friday night?

Oh, yeah...

117 Bacchus's daddy  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:00:23am

Good night all. Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah.

118 Pietr  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:02:43am

Either it's something we've said, it's shift change, or gmsc put everyone to sleep again?

/white smoke...

119 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:02:45am

Got a $50 cash Christmas bonus (woohoo!). I was looking forward to zilch. The 50% of us who didn't get laid off are still scratching our heads.

120 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:02:46am

re: #103 shanec99

My wish is that Rather would return to journalism as a honest reporter. It is my wish... perhaps if he reformed it could impact standards in journalism. It cannot be good to have a man humiliated into perpetuity, there must be an opportunity for repentance, forgiveness and redemption.

but isn't the first necessary step to that whole process an admission that he was wrong?

"nevah happen GI!"

121 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:05:26am

re: #112 redc1c4

Who was that? 2H6?

122 Sprite  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:05:48am

Evenin' All...

May I share a Christmas story with you? Today I was honored to be the only non family member who 'assisted' in the birth of a baby boy: Stratten!

I was there through the labor and the C section...helped the dad suit up for surgery... was there to help him welcome his new son. Was the 'older' friend who was there for Stratsky's mom as she breast fed for the first time... all while the mom's parents were/still are driving through blizzards to get here from Twin Falls to Coeur d'Alene, ID>

Ohhh, it was divine! They will all be going home on Christmas day, with their miracle baby boy.

And I am Auntie Sprite!

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukah!

123 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:07:28am

re: #121 BlueCanuck

Who was that? 2H6?

bingo: i "suck the life" out of everyone i meet...

/been nice knowing you. %-)

124 gmsc  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:07:58am

re: #122 Sprite

Evenin' All...

May I share a Christmas story with you? Today I was honored to be the only non family member who 'assisted' in the birth of a baby boy: Stratten!

I was there through the labor and the C section...helped the dad suit up for surgery... was there to help him welcome his new son. Was the 'older' friend who was there for Stratsky's mom as she breast fed for the first time... all while the mom's parents were/still are driving through blizzards to get here from Twin Falls to Coeur d'Alene, ID>

Ohhh, it was divine! They will all be going home on Christmas day, with their miracle baby boy.

And I am Auntie Sprite!

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukah!

Congratulations! It sounds like you did a good job.

125 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:08:20am

Congrats, Sprite! Very cool. :D

126 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:08:29am

re: #123 redc1c4

Nah, you don't do that. Met some real phsycic vampires out there though. Scary people to meet.

127 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:09:02am

re: #122 Sprite

Well done. Now that's the way to celebrate the season.

128 Pietr  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:09:40am

re: #123 redc1c4

I get the impression that you're sleeping in the foxhole tonite...take plenty of C rats, and your shelter half...:>(

129 Pietr  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:11:18am

re: #124 gmsc

Awesome, and best wishes to the travellers still to arrive, as well as the new parents.

130 gmsc  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:14:41am

re: #129 Pietr

Awesome, and best wishes to the travellers still to arrive, as well as the new parents.

You quoted me, but I believe Sprite deserves the credit.

131 Sprite  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:17:51am

Thank you, ALL!

I had one misgiving... and that is, I held Stratten before his mom could. Of course, I always think the way I would if I were the mom. Fortunately, a dear friend of 30 years (I'm no spring chicken, I'm 54) pointed out that post C, a host of people hold the baby in the operating room - the mother cannot - and she is right.

I lost three children. This young, wonderful couple has made me an Aunt..
I immediately knew what would comfort Stratten and was able to relay that to his mom and dad.

I just got the Christmas spirit today. It is in the miracle of birth...and
Stratten!

Thank you again for your sentiments. I just had to come here to celebrate!

Hope you all have a Christmas and Hanukah filled with miracles!

132 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:21:26am

re: #128 Pietr

I get the impression that you're sleeping in the foxhole tonite...take plenty of C rats, and your shelter half...:>(

naw... things have been tough, and i have a tendency to hunker down and out tough them to get through them.

this occasionally inhibits my cherub like demeanor... %-)

/the morons electing shithead didn't help either.

133 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:24:31am

re: #128 Pietr

I get the impression that you're sleeping in the foxhole tonite...take plenty of C rats, and your shelter half...:>(

not that bad... i'm inside, except when i go outside to snipe at the real rats on the back fence, and have a nearly full bottle of Gosling rum i'm test driving...

tasty stuff, if anyone is curious. %-)

134 TheMatrix31  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:26:05am

Has anyone read Glenn Beck's "A Christmas Sweater"?

I bought it but haven't read more than a page or two of it.

135 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:26:56am

well, hell... i killed the thread.

guess i'll go see if i can do the same to a rat.

/no, *not* Dan Rather... %-)

136 SurferDoc  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:27:36am

*Looks around to see who is naughty and who is nice*

Naughty 15

Nice 2

*sigh*


Heyas, NightLizards!

137 Gearhead  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:28:46am

Merry Christmas, lizards!

Have a safe and joyful holiday.

And may God bless this great country in 2009!

138 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:29:39am
139 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:31:30am

Speaking of cats, In other news and just for the hell of it, Fritz the Cat. :D

140 Pietr  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:32:53am

re: #122 Sprite

re: #130 gmsc

You quoted me, but I believe Sprite deserves the credit.


Duly noted, gmsc. Sprite this was meant for you. Brain is disengaging, gears slipping...will try to hang on just a bit longer.

141 Pietr  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:35:08am

re: #140 Pietr

re: #130 gmsc


Duly noted, gmsc. Sprite this was meant for you. Brain is disengaging, gears slipping...will try to hang on just a bit longer.

re: #129 Pietr

Awesome, and best wishes to the travellers still to arrive, as well as the new parents.

Maybe I won't hang on much longer...Sigh.

142 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:35:14am

re: #136 SurferDoc

*Looks around to see who is naughty and who is nice*

Naughty 15

Nice 2

Pants Free 1

*sigh*


Heyas, NightLizards!

FTFY!

143 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:36:21am

re: #133 redc1c4

Black Seal? If it is, it's my personal fav for alcohol.

/when I can drink
//stupid liver.

144 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:36:33am

re: #138 ploome hineni

well, Granny's ashes were tossed

/

well, at least he didn't haul them...

(we hope. %-)

/white smoke

145 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:38:36am

re: #136 SurferDoc

Hey doc, I know which one is one of the naughty ones. Who are the nice ones?

146 gmsc  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:39:38am

Well, I have to go to bed now, so I can be fresh and ready for the 2nd day of my new job!

Sprite, if you can stick around long enough, you can have my fruitcup!

Oh, and remember - just 1 hour after fruitcup, Santa begins his journey!

Good night, all!

147 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:41:16am

re: #143 BlueCanuck

Black Seal? If it is, it's my personal fav for alcohol.

/when I can drink
//stupid liver.

Gosling Gold... tasty stuff. gonna ask HRH if we can lay in some for the coming summer party season, assuming we have any parties.

got a couple bottles of Black Seal in the booze locker already, just need to get the ginger beer to go with it...

Cruzan makes a *very* nice rum too.

/bummer about the liver thing: are you sure you're Canadian?

148 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:41:53am

re: #146 gmsc

You got a new job? Far out.

149 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:43:37am

re: #147 redc1c4

Liver just needs a break. When I drink too much over a certain period I get bad heartburn. Only when I drink though. Just have to lay off the booze for a few months then I will be back to normal.

/Some people question my status up here as well. I don't watch hockey.
//But I do enjoy beer, can't drink the rye though.

150 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:47:06am

re: #149 BlueCanuck

How about a big fat doob?

151 SurferDoc  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:47:07am

re: #145 BlueCanuck

Hey doc, I know which one is one of the naughty ones. Who are the nice ones?

You and I.


I think red is the pantsless one.

152 Sprite  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:47:25am

re: #146 gmsc

Thanks, gmsc! And to you, too, Pietr. I won't make it for fruit cup, but I'm hoping all is well in LOL's world. She's a quintessential Lizard gem. Diamonds...

Sleep tight.

153 Macker  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:52:53am

re: #139 Boogberg

Speaking of cats, In other news and just for the hell of it, Fritz the Cat. :D

Dang, did you see the scene where Fritz is killed?

154 Pietr  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:55:16am

re: #152 Sprite

Lol was in last nite-she managed to get the laptop fired up, but is visiting family,IIRC. If she isn't by for a while, she asked Sharmuta to fill in. If I succeed in posting this right, I'll assume the temporary adjustment I've done on the 'Brain Clutch' is holding successfully...:>)

155 Sprite  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:55:29am

One more thing! This just jelled yesterday. I am currently a caterer (past life in law!). I will be (honored to be) cooking for a Pappy Boyington Marine Detachment (for the Greater Northwest) in May, on Armed Services Day.

They are continuing to do Such Great Works!

Yayyy!

Thanks for celebrating with me tonight..

156 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:57:08am

re: #153 Macker

Dang, did you see the scene where Fritz is killed?

No. Where's that?

157 conrad  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:59:08am

Hi everyone, I have a question:
Why is the falling of oil prices down to a reasonable level being reported as negative in the MSM. This is an example of an article reporting what should be good news as something nasty:

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

It's from the Drudge Report. Seriously, why is this bd news. As far as I can tell, oil hitting over $50 a barrel is was the first domino in this whole financial situation we are in now. I thought oil dropping to cheap would be reported as good news.

158 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:59:14am

re: #149 BlueCanuck

Liver just needs a break. When I drink too much over a certain period I get bad heartburn. Only when I drink though. Just have to lay off the booze for a few months then I will be back to normal.

/Some people question my status up here as well. I don't watch hockey.
//But I do enjoy beer, can't drink the rye though.

sounds more like a GI tract issue than liver related...

but then again, i'm *not* a doctor. %-)

159 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:01:05am

re: #157 conrad

Hi everyone, I have a question:
Why is the falling of oil prices down to a reasonable level being reported as negative in the MSM. This is an example of an article reporting what should be good news as something nasty:

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

It's from the Drudge Report. Seriously, why is this bd news. As far as I can tell, oil hitting over $50 a barrel is was the first domino in this whole financial situation we are in now. I thought oil dropping to cheap would be reported as good news.

because it's bad for the oil ticks and the paelostinians?

with the MSM, who knows anymore...

160 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:02:08am

re: #150 Boogberg

Stay away from that stuff too. The stuff these days is waaayyy too strong.

161 Sprite  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:03:44am

re: #157 conrad

Sadly, the msm is not on the side of the U.S., or liberty, or anything good any more.. They are a pathetic heap of ...

Sorry, but that's my take.

162 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:12:36am

re: #160 BlueCanuck

Stay away from that stuff too. The stuff these days is waaayyy too strong.

Lol! :D

Well, I try. It's my nephew I'm worried about. I try to focus on the difference between heroin (and such), and pot. I've drilled into him what he can expect if he messes around with the wrong drugs. I've tried not to lie. I'm not gonna lie to the kid.

163 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:12:55am

re: #160 BlueCanuck

Stay away from that stuff too. The stuff these days is waaayyy too strong.

what's wrong with that?

reality is for people who can't handle drugs...

%-)

164 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:13:58am

re: #161 Sprite

Sadly, the msm is not on the side of the U.S., or liberty, or anything good any more.. They are a pathetic heap of ...

Sorry, but that's my take.

no argument here...

165 Sprite  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:18:14am

re: #164 redc1c4

G'night to you and All.

Again, thanks for celebrating with me tonight!

Stay warm..

166 Pietr  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:25:09am

I think I need to seek a warm set of covers, as well. Merry Christmas and a continuing Happy Hannukah...L8rs...

167 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:25:15am

I take it some of you have to work tomorrow. :D

168 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:26:34am

re: #167 Boogberg

I take it some of you have to work tomorrow. :D

sucks to be them... %-)

169 Pietr  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:27:02am

re: #167 Boogberg

Nope, not me-but going brain dead, so I best to let it rest...:>)

170 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:30:26am

Well we'll see you around. Good dreams to ya. :)

171 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:34:47am

fruitcup WARNORD!

172 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:40:22am

That's right! I keep forgetting we're on ponytail time. :D

173 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:42:50am

re: #172 Boogberg

Ponytail time?

/oh, you must mean Pacific time.

174 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:45:00am

re: #173 BlueCanuck

Ponytail time?

/oh, you must mean Pacific time.

:D

175 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:45:33am

anyone else planning on seeing "Gran Torino" on opening day?

176 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:45:55am

re: #172 Boogberg

That's right! I keep forgetting we're on ponytail time. :D

*WHACK!*

177 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:51:55am

red wears a ponytail?

178 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:53:02am

re: #177 littleoldlady

You made it this moring lol. Morning Lizards.

179 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:54:18am

Good morning littleoldlady, erik. Hows things going today?

180 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:55:24am

re: #177 littleoldlady

red wears a ponytail?

not even in my college days.

181 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:55:44am

re: #179 BlueCanuck

Good morning littleoldlady, erik. Hows things going today?

Morning Blue been lurking and following the threads the last 4 hours. Working as usual.

182 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:56:23am

re: #175 redc1c4

anyone else planning on seeing "Gran Torino" on opening day?

"GET off my lawn."

Good idea. I forgot about that one.

183 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:56:52am

re: #181 Erik The Red

Morning Blue been lurking and following the threads the last 4 hours. Working as usual.

you should apply for a bailout...

184 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:57:24am

Hi guys. I'm here.

/sorta...

185 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:58:14am

re: #182 Boogberg

"GET off my lawn."

Good idea. I forgot about that one.

it's the one thing i can think of that would make the day worthwhile...

supposed to be raining like Noah's in town, so hopefully folks will stay home.

186 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:59:12am

re: #184 littleoldlady

Hi guys. I'm here.

/sorta...

/looks over to the chopped liver section

i'm sorry... have we met?

/white smoke

187 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:59:49am

re: #183 redc1c4

you should apply for a bailout...

I can get bailout money living in S.Africa? Now you tell me/

188 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:00:05am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

189 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:01:06am

re: #188 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

late again...

190 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:01:07am

re: #188 littleoldlady

Thanks, {littleoldlady}!

191 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:01:08am

Weee littleoldlady fruitcup. :)

/thanks

192 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:02:03am

re: #187 Erik The Red

I can get bailout money living in S.Africa? Now you tell me/

it's to help you get *out* of S. Africa...

193 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:02:44am

re: #188 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Thanks lol. If I miss all you wonderful Lizards tomorrow I wish you all a Merry Christmas or a Merry/Happy (insert holiday)

194 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:03:20am

red! :-)

/nobody's perfect...

Sharmuta! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

Erik! :-)

Boogberg! :-)

195 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:04:19am

re: #192 redc1c4

it's to help you get *out* of S. Africa...

Bailing out in about 6 months.

196 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:04:25am

Erik,

Is it today where you are, or yesterday?

Merry Christmas to you, too! :-)

197 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:05:26am

re: #196 littleoldlady

Erik,

Is it today where you are, or yesterday?

Merry Christmas to you, too! :-)

LOL. Christmas eve 12h06.

198 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:06:12am

BlueCanuck is stealin' stuff outta my fruitcup, littleoldlady!

199 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:08:14am

re: #196 littleoldlady

Erik,

Is it today where you are, or yesterday?

Merry Christmas to you, too! :-)

hard to say, but no matter where he goes, there he is.

SA should be more or less on one of the European timzonese, depending on where you are...

/unless you're in the bush, in which case, you need to set your clocks back 10,000 years. %-)

200 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:09:16am

re: #198 Boogberg

BlueCanuck is stealin' stuff outta my fruitcup, littleoldlady!

give him a diarrhea ice cube or two, and he'll never do that again.

/sure cure!

201 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:10:59am

re: #198 Boogberg

BlueCanuck is stealin' stuff outta my fruitcup, littleoldlady!

He's just cleaning up the red-mess.

/don't worry. be happy!

202 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:11:58am

brb. noises. not my house. must investigate...

203 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:12:32am

re: #198 Boogberg

BlueCanuck is stealin' stuff outta my fruitcup, littleoldlady!

Dang, going to have to work a bit more on those ninja stealth skills a bit better.

/trust me though, you didn't want what I scooped. ;)

204 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:18:26am

re: #202 littleoldlady

brb. noises. not my house. must investigate...

I wonder if lol is packing on her vacation?

205 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:19:19am

re: #204 Erik The Red

I wonder if lol is packing on her vacation?

Well of course she's packing. How else will you fit clothes into suitcases.

206 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:19:21am

re: #204 Erik The Red

I wonder if lol is packing on her vacation?

probably a pair of 38's...

/white smoke!

207 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:20:09am

re: #203 BlueCanuck

Dang, going to have to work a bit more on those ninja stealth skills a bit better.

/trust me though, you didn't want what I scooped. ;)

Lol! :D

208 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:24:05am

re: #205 BlueCanuck

Well of course she's packing. How else will you fit clothes into suitcases.

LMAO. Pun thread

209 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:26:53am

re: #208 Erik The Red

LMAO. Pun thread

well, yeah... LNDT's are open threads.

210 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:28:16am

re: #208 Erik The Red

Well, sometimes my aim is a little low.

211 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:28:26am

I should be packing. Today is the Christmas leg of our Chanumaskah Tour. I want to hit the dusty trail before the drinkers do...

212 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:30:18am

re: #211 littleoldlady

I should be packing. Today is the Christmas leg of our Chanumaskah Tour. I want to hit the dusty trail before the drinkers do...

if you wait for them, it won't be as dusty...

happy trails, regardless.

213 redc1c4  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:32:39am

hitting the rack here... looks like tomorows rain started early.

/more global warming... *spit*

hasta y'all...

L8r!

214 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:32:47am

re: #212 redc1c4

Yeah but I worry about what they'll replace the dust WITH.

Thanks! :-)

215 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:33:27am

'Night, red & Merry Christmas! :-)

216 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:33:44am

Night red, see you tomorrow in the wee hours.

217 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:34:31am

re: #211 littleoldlady

I should be packing. Today is the Christmas leg of our Chanumaskah Tour. I want to hit the dusty trail before the drinkers do...

"Chanumaskah Tour" ?

Another Heeb holiday? Geez. They're getting worse than the Hindus. :D

218 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:38:41am

re: #217 Boogberg

2/3. Chanukah - Christmas - Chanukah.

219 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:47:43am

re: #218 littleoldlady

2/3. Chanukah - Christmas - Chanukah.

Ah, ok. I got it now. I knew what you meant all along though. Tell those assholes to stop looking at me. ;)

220 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:50:30am

re: #219 Boogberg

Ah, ok. I got it now. I knew what you meant all along though. Tell those assholes to stop looking at me. ;)

Yeah, yeah...

;-)

221 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:51:37am

re: #219 Boogberg

Ah, ok. I got it now. I knew what you meant all along though. Tell those assholes to stop looking at me. ;)

/slowly turns his evil eye away.
//white smoke.

222 gettinby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:53:52am

re: #202 littleoldlady

brb. noises. not my house. must investigate...

That's the sound of warm weather at Chanumaskahtime in Florida.

/nice, huh?
/a quick shout-out before I go to work.

223 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:58:00am

re: #222 gettinby

gettinby! :-)

But, but, but...I'm in Atlanta! ;-)

/Florida coming right up in a few hours...

Merry Christmas, gettinby! Good to see you!

224 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:58:35am

Lizards will be happy to know that our new bulldog pup got her first shots and is doing well. I had to get a pup from the guys at work because the County dog I wanted to adopt had parvo disease. Poor thing. I feel awful about it.

225 littleoldlady  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:01:20am

I'm out, boys and girls...

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO (ALMOST) ALL, AND GOOD DAY, ALL™

226 gettinby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:04:04am

re: #223 littleoldlady

Thank you! {littleoldlady}

Here's to one of the most joyous and happy Chanukahs ever for you and your family!

It's going to be in the 80's! Yay! You'll love it.

227 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:04:57am

Bye littleoldlady. Have a safe drive and see you tomorrow.

228 gettinby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:09:50am

A hearty HELLO to {BlueCanuck}!

How are you? I'll probably e-see you tomorrow morning here?

Hiya Boogberg! Sorry to hear about the puppy getting parvo, but happy to hear that you got another puppy. A wonderful Christmas present!

I LOVE puppies!

Off to work...have a great day everyone.

229 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:12:05am

Hi gettinby, bye gettinby. :)

/stopped snowing here now, but calling for rain soon. :p

230 Luigi  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:19:27am

Ha ha ha
Prosecutor won't aid Rod Blagojevich impeachment panel

SPRINGFIELD — U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald told lawmakers considering Gov. Rod Blagojevich's impeachment to steer clear of key players in the scandal-plagued administration to avoid compromising the ongoing criminal investigation centered on the governor.

The "impeachment panel" is going to have a heck of a time trying to get this guy off the stage without uncovering any criminal activity that damages the state or national Democratic party, including members of the impeachment panel.

Like, for instance, this bailout of the horse racing industry that shakes down the Sopranos...er, the casinos.

Affidavit Alleges Blagojevich Sought Racing Official's Contribution

Deep in the federal affidavit accusing Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich of trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama's Senate seat is a brief passage about a state law -- passed twice -- to prop up Illinois's horse-racing industry.

The law, worth tens of millions of dollars to the industry, has gone largely unnoticed. But its supporting role in the Blagojevich drama shows how legislation was allegedly hijacked by the governor's office and now may be jeopardized by the taint of federal charges.

The affidavit alleges Gov. Blagojevich attempted to pressure a horse-racing official for a $100,000 campaign contribution in return for the governor's signature on the legislation.

Gov. Blagojevich signed the bill into law -- six days after his Dec. 9 arrest -- requiring the state's four top-earning casinos to give 3% of their gross adjusted annual revenues to the horse-racing industry. He has said he has done nothing wrong and will be vindicated.

The law is based on a rationale that horse tracks have seen dramatic declines in revenue since casinos entered the Illinois market in the 1990s. But the casinos have argued that horse racing's decline has more to do with the sport's fading appeal than casino competition, and they are threatening to challenge the law before the horse tracks get paid.

Blago signed this bill after he was already arrested. You can see why the state impeachment folks would want to know what Fitz knows before delving into this -- and would not want to find out any more than Fitz knows.

Oh, how I wish this were happening in New Jersey where I live.

231 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:27:15am

re: #228 gettinby

A hearty HELLO to {BlueCanuck}!

How are you? I'll probably e-see you tomorrow morning here?

Hiya Boogberg! Sorry to hear about the puppy getting parvo, but happy to hear that you got another puppy. A wonderful Christmas present!

I LOVE puppies!

Off to work...have a great day everyone.

What a thoughtful thing to post. Thank you and the middle one looks most like..."Digger" (my niece likes Digger so Digger it is :D).

Have a good day at work, gettinby.

232 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:30:35am

Pretty quiet in here this morning. Guess everyone is sleeping in.

233 Luigi  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:33:29am

I seem to have put everybody out of the holiday mood. Sorry. I can actually do that in real life, too.

234 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:33:29am

re: #232 BlueCanuck

Pretty quiet in here this morning. Guess everyone is sleeping in.

You still at work Blue?

235 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:34:00am

I'd like to put in a request for some positive Karma, if you don't mind Lizards.

I just bought 500 shares of General Motors at $3.00/share. Please use all of your Karmic powers to make the stock go up today.

236 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:35:58am

re: #234 Erik The Red

Yeah, here for about another hour. Then its off to shovel some global warming/hydric acid crystals.

237 blackpajamas  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:37:14am

Baal-Out Khan

(condolences to Coleridge)

In Sanadu did Baal-Out Khan
Estately inflated homes decree:
Sacrificial tax-payer arteries, ran
Through pockets measureless to man
For their godless fees.

Twice five generations of fertile mind
By dull academic blade pruned down:
Grown-over gardens bereft of skills,
Blossomed once production-bearing trees;
And mental bounty of industrial wills,
Enterprising sunny spots of greenery.

But o'er the deep pragmatic chasm slanted
The entitled umbrella of smug union cover!
A savage place! unholy and underhanded
Ne'er before by bailing loons so vaunted
The sheep wailed for their tax-hike lover!

And from this chasm, with fearless turmoil seething,
One hundred million barrels rolled their greeting,
Mighty fountains of prescriptions forced:
Amid swiftly cocked intermittent burst
Retribution screamed fiercely like rebounding hail,
Off the gamy buttocks of those continuing to bail:
And mid these stinging rocks at once and ever
To shut up quickly their criminal endeavor:

Five year plans building with lazy motion
Through carbon fleeced caps, their fingers ran,
Now cementing down entitlement measures to man,
Drowning productivity in a lifeless ocean :
And 'mid the bailouts the Bumbler heard from far
Keynsian voices prophesying more!

The dread harbinger of juggernaut inflation
Inexorably coursed beneath the waves;
Soliciting silent auction of a bankrupt nation
With zero assets that could be saved.
It was self destruction of rare device,
Inflated entitlement at unlimited price!

Quickly the Baboons with Ivy horns
Howled of basic services withdrawn:
So Californians were again black mailed,
And economic freedoms quickly jailed,
Chastising hence the feeble pawns.

Could we recollect for free
The siren's symphony and song,
Deeply leveraged and so risky
Promised hope of homes gone wrong,
The dear saving burns in steaming device!
Warming others with your self sacrifice !

And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware ! Beware !
Their greedy eyes, their floating hair!
Cuff iron chains round their thighs
And close your wallet with holy dread,
For they on taxpayer flesh hath fed,
Redistributing the milk of Paradise.

Merry Gift-mas, and Happy New Deal!

//g'nite!

238 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:37:25am

re: #236 BlueCanuck

Yeah, here for about another hour. Then its off to shovel some global warming/hydric acid crystals.

Do you still use a shovel? Didn't some lazy ass person invent the snow blower?

239 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:44:24am

re: #238 Erik The Red

Snow blowers are only really useful for long walkways, driveways, and lots of snow.

240 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:49:27am

Good morning LGF.
Not so good in Israel.

241 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:53:35am

re: #240 Spare O'Lake

I guess they have finished rearming. Funny how they have all these explosives and rockets, yet they are winning about foodstuffs.

242 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:57:10am

re: #241 BlueCanuck

PIMF winning == whining.

243 freetoken  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:00:52am

FYI, according to Google Earth, Santa is currently over Vanuatu! (see link up in the spin-offs for the website...)

244 Luigi  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:05:00am

re: #240 Spare O'Lake

Good morning LGF.
Not so good in Israel.

From your link...

Palestinian terrorists on Wednesday morning fired over 30 Kassam and Grad rockets from the Gaza Strip at Ashkelon and the western Negev, prompting Israel to hold up a shipment of aid scheduled to pass through to the Strip on Wednesday. Rockets continued to rain on southern Israeli cities throughout the morning hours.

This is a Christmas story. The world media will now condemn Israel for holding up the kids' milk on Christmas. It plays into anti-Jewish stereotypes.

245 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:07:13am

Welcome to NORAD Tracks Santa

[Link: www.noradsanta.org...]

246 eon  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:07:19am

re: #240 Spare O'Lake

Good morning LGF.
Not so good in Israel.

Good morning, all.

On the plus side, two Hamas gunmen "perished on a holy mission"- for which read "Two idiot jihadists managed an own goal while trying to plant an IED"- and three more were terminated by the IDF.

On the minus side, Ehud Barak is increasingly coming to resemble Woodrow Wilson in about the winter of 1916. It may take the equivalent of the Lusitania being sunk to get his attention focused on the idea that Constant Rocket Bombardments Of Israeli Cities From Gaza Are An Inherently Bad Thing.

He's already had the equivalent of the Zimmermann Telegram over and over again, but apparently just can't be bothered to read it.

/How fast can Israel have elections and hopefully get a new PM?

cheers

eon

247 whtokbyu  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:08:23am

Perhaps this was posted yesterday; but in any case for once President Bush's true character shines.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

248 kcladderman  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:08:47am

Has anyone seen this story. Is David SGuns for Copspade one of the good guys?

249 freetoken  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:09:12am

re: #245 Dustyvet

Yes, we put it up in the spin-offs... :-)

250 kcladderman  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:09:27am

re: #248 kcladderman

Wow Don't know what happened there?

251 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:10:49am

re: #249 freetoken

Yes, we put it up in the spin-offs... :-)

Otays...:)

252 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:12:27am

re: #248 kcladderman

Has anyone seen this story. Is David SGuns for Copspade one of the good guys?


An actor with a real heart. WOW!

253 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:12:37am

re: #241 BlueCanuck

I guess they have finished rearming. Funny how they have all these explosives and rockets, yet they are winning about foodstuffs.

The terrorists in the Gaza strip must be hunted down and killed.
Their weapons must be located and destroyed.
The weapon supply lines from Egypt must be fully cut off.
Everyone knows this must be done, and the sooner the better.
Yet while the Israeli politicians wring their hands, the rocket terror attacks continue.
Happy Channukah.//

254 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:12:37am

re: #248 kcladderman

Has anyone seen this story. Is David SGuns for Copspade one of the good guys?

Glad to see that not everyone in Hollywood is a moonbat.

255 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:13:38am

re: #248 kcladderman

From the sounds of it, yes. Could never really stand his acting. At least he's helping out the good guys.

256 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:14:38am

'Twas The (Politically Correct) Night Before Christmas


'Twas the night before Christmas and Santa's a wreck...
How to live in a world that's politically correct?
His workers no longer would answer to "Elves".
"Vertically Challenged" they were calling themselves.
And labor conditions at the north pole
Were alleged by the union to stifle the soul.

Four reindeer had vanished, without much propriety,
Released to the wilds by the Humane Society.
And equal employment had made it quite clear
That Santa had better not use just reindeer.

So Dancer and Donner, Comet and Cupid,
Were replaced with 4 pigs, and you know that looked stupid!

The runners had been removed from his sleigh;
The ruts were termed dangerous by the E.P.A.
And people had started to call for the cops
When they heard sled noises on their roof-tops.

Second-hand smoke from his pipe had his workers quite frightened.
His fur trimmed red suit was called "Unenlightened."

And to show you the strangeness of life's ebbs and flows,
Rudolf was suing over unauthorized use of his nose
And had gone on Geraldo, in front of the nation,
Demanding millions in over-due compensation.

So, half of the reindeer were gone; and his wife,
Who suddenly said she'd enough of this life,
Joined a self-help group, packed, and left in a whiz,
Demanding from now on her title was Ms.

And as for the gifts, why, he'd ne'er had a notion
That making a choice could cause so much commotion.
Nothing of leather, nothing of fur,
Which meant nothing for him. And nothing for her.

Nothing that might be construed to pollute.
Nothing to aim. Nothing to shoot.
Nothing that clamored or made lots of noise.
Nothing for just girls. Or just for the boys.

Nothing that claimed to be gender specific.
Nothing that's warlike or non-pacific.

No candy or sweets...they were bad for the tooth.
Nothing that seemed to embellish a truth.
And fairy tales, while not yet forbidden,
Were like Ken and Barbie, better off hidden.

For they raised the hackles of those psychological
Who claimed the only good gift was one ecological.

No baseball, no football...someone could get hurt;
Besides, playing sports exposed kids to dirt.
Dolls were said to be sexist, and should be passe;
And Nintendo would rot your entire brain away.

So Santa just stood there, disheveled, perplexed;
He just could not figure out what to do next.

He tried to be merry, tried to be gay,
you've got to be careful with that word today.
His sack was quite empty, limp to the ground;
Nothing fully acceptable was to be found.

Something special was needed, a gift that he might
Give to all without angering the left or the right.
A gift that would satisfy, with no indecision,
Each group of people, every religion;

Every ethnicity, every hue,
Everyone, everywhere...even you.
So here is that gift, it's price beyond worth...
"May you and your loved ones enjoy peace on earth."

257 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:17:58am

Congress' Night Before Christmas

"Twas the week before Christmas and those sly little elves,
Our congressmen, labored to better themselves.
They cared not a whit what the public might think
"Let them eat cake," some said with a wink.

And putting their thumbs to the tip of their nose,
they waved as they shouted "Anything goes!"

They scoffed at the thought that we might object,
to a tax cut for the wealthy of a posh percent.
They've got prerequisites-franking, per diem, and more --
bargain-priced haircuts and gyms (three or four!)

Paid speaking engagements and meals on the cuff,
celebrity status -- (they've sure got it tough!),

Yet they claim they're in touch with the man on the street,
as John Q. Public struggles to make both ends meet.
If all workers decided what they were due,
they'd be getting those fat paychecks too!

But while we take cutbacks or raises quite small,
and one out of 20 has no job at all,
our millionaire Congress decides on the budget
land trimming Medicare and Medicaid will do it, they say.

In this season for giving, our Congress is taking.
We've had it with them and our backs are breaking.
With hard times, disasters, and layoffs on our dockets,
we bit the bullet and they fill their pockets!


Oh jobless, oh homeless, oh desperate and needy -
dare anyone say our Congress is greedy?

If in this feeling I'm not alone,
take up your pen or pick up your phone.
As dry leaves before the wild hurricane fly,
let the road of your anger mount to the sky.

Indignant, outraged, appalled and beset
let your congressman know that you won't forget!
When election times comes -- and certain it will --
you're voting him out for passing that bill.


More rapid than eagles, their elections assured
they toasted each other and laughed at the herd.
And I heard them exclaim with adjournment at hand,

"Merry Christmas to us,
and the public (and Federal workers) be damned!

258 eon  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:22:09am

re: #250 kcladderman

Wow Don't know what happened there?

Phoenix PD has had several officers wounded in recent "clashes" with Mexican drug gangs (who also run illegals across the border, but We're Not Supposed To Mention That according to the enlightened elite'). The gangs are armed with military-grade weapons (please note , not "assault weapons"- I'm talking about full-auto weapons here) and up to now, all the patrol officers have been able to do is hunker down, call for tactical support (SWAT) and wait for the guys with the heavy firepower, Interceptor vests, Fritz helmets, etc., to come in and deal. By which time, the gunmen have usually gotten away.

Putting AR-15s in the cruisers at least gives the patrol officers a fighting chance to hold the line until SWAT gets there. Which is what Phoenix is buying with the donation.

/Of course, any resemblance between our southern border area and the border between Lebanon and Israel prior to Operation Peace In Galilee in 1982 is Not To Be Discussed, as The One, San Fran Nan, Dingy Harry, et al., wouldn't like it, I'm sure.

cheers

eon

259 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:22:26am

re: #257 Dustyvet

Where do you find this stuff Dusty?

260 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:25:23am

re: #259 Erik The Red

Sounds like he's cutting and pasting from e-mails present and past. Seen some of this stuff before on the web.

261 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:25:58am

re: #259 Erik The Red

Where do you find this stuff Dusty?

Here...:)

[Link: people.cornell.edu...]

262 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:27:03am

re: #261 Dustyvet

Here...:)

[Link: people.cornell.edu...]

Thanks.

263 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:27:27am

re: #261 Dustyvet

Here...:)

[Link: people.cornell.edu...]

Sorry that links not working...:(

264 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:27:44am

Morning Lizards. Is it always this quiet in the morning?

265 freetoken  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:29:14am

re: #264 Cathypop

It's especially quiet this morning.

266 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:29:56am

re: #262 Erik The Red

Thanks.


Try this one...

[Link: people.cornell.edu...]

267 eon  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:30:02am

re: #264 Cathypop

Morning Lizards. Is it always this quiet in the morning?

Morning.

It depends on how late we were up last night.

(I got to bed at 0015, and woke up at 0557. I have got to get more sleep.)

cheers

eon

268 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:30:40am

re: #266 Dustyvet

Try this one...

[Link: people.cornell.edu...]

Great that one worked...:)

269 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:32:10am

Well my relief is here and time for me to go. Have a Merry Christmas if I don't see you all tomorrow night, and stay warm and scaly.

270 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:33:41am

Good morning, all! Yesterday morning was 14 degrees, this morning 37 and supposed to go up to 58. The rain we were supposed to get last night is now predicted for after noon -- maybe!

I was kinda hoping for a white Christmas, but the practical part of me is just as glad I won't be having to shovel off the sidewalk while Mr. Empire snow-blows our driveway and the landlord's!

271 eon  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:34:40am

re: #269 BlueCanuck

Same here. No relief, just a ton of things to do before tomorrow.

If I'm not back before then, Have A Very Merry Christmas, Lizards.

And as Red Skelton used to say, And May God Bless.

cheers

eon

272 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:34:43am

After Christmas Letter


Dear Santa,

You must be surprised that I'm writing to you today, the 26th of
December. Well, I would very much like to clear up certain things
that have occurred since the beginning of the month when, filled
with illusion, I wrote you my letter. I asked for a bicycle, an
electric train set, a pair of roller blades, and a football
uniform. I destroyed my brain studying the whole year. Not only
was I the first in my class, but I had the best grades in the
whole school!

I'm not going to lie to you, there was no one in my entire
neighborhood that behaved better than me, with my parents, my
brothers, my friends, and with my neighbors. I would go on
errands, and even help the elderly cross the street. There was
virtually nothing within reach that I would not do for humanity.

What balls do you have leaving me a f**king yo-yo, a stupid
whistle and a pair of socks! What the f**k were you thinking,
you fat son of a bitch, that you've taken me for a sucker the
whole f**king year to come out with some shit like this under the
tree. As if you hadn't f**ked me enough,you gave that little
faggot across the street so many toys that he can't even walk into
his house.

Please don't let me see you trying to fit your big fat ass down my
chimney next year. I'll f**k you up! I'll throw rocks at those
stupid reindeer and scare them away so you'll have to WALK back
to the f**king North Pole, just like what I have to do now since
you didn't get me that f**king bike.

F**K YOU SANTA! Next year you'll find out how bad I can be, you
FAT-SON-OF-A-BITCH.

Sincerely,
Little Johnny

273 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:36:30am

I couldn't go to bed knowing there's a rib roast with my name on it. I just have to call Publix and tell them to cut it.

274 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:36:37am

Santa's Response To Little Johnny's After Christmas Letter
by Lee Bradley


Dear Johnny,

I know WHO you are, and I KNOW where you live. You little shit!
You can't talk to SANTA like that and get away with it!

If you don't like the yo-yo, which is a classic toy, by the way,
then you can just cram it up your little *$$! As for the whistle
you didn't care for -- I gotcha whistle right here! Come blow
on this! And the socks...well, I figured you are big enough to
be whacking off, and those sox would have come in handy and been
handy to ... well, even you should get the picture!

And... that little "faggot" across the street, you'll be happy to
know that he's already got pubic hair and his whang is TWICE as
long as yours. Besides, his parents think YOU're the fag --always
moanin' and whinin'.

Don't worry about gathering up rocks for my visit to your house
next year, 'cause I ain't coming down your chimbly ever again.
If you find any pennies this year, you had better stop and pick
them up, 'cause that's about all you're going to get for Christmas.
Your mom and dad are doing to be killed in a car crash, and you'll
be stuck in an orphanage before Thanksgiving.

Bad? You want BAD? I'll show you who's bad!

Affectionally, Adieu,

Santa

275 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:37:34am

The sun is not up yet but the sky is clear and there is a beautiful crescent moon out. It's supposed to get into the upper 60's today.

276 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:38:22am

Heh heh, I wonder if the 72 Virgins will tell the fools to: "go to hell?"
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

277 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:38:41am

re: #271 eon

Same here. No relief, just a ton of things to do before tomorrow.

If I'm not back before then, Have A Very Merry Christmas, Lizards.

And as Red Skelton used to say, And May God Bless.

cheers

eon


Have a very Merry Christmas Eon

278 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:41:34am

re: #276 shanec99

Heh heh, I wonder if the 72 Virgins will tell the fools to: "go to hell?"
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]


The 72 virgins will take one look at the fools and start laughing hysterically

279 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:42:39am

re: #276 shanec99

Heh heh, I wonder if the 72 Virgins will tell the fools to: "go to hell?"
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Allah faces virgin shortage

[Link: www.thespoof.com...]

280 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:43:46am

re: #278 Cathypop

The 72 virgins will take one look at the fools and start laughing hysterically

You mean the Virgins wouldn't even offer to give them a band aid?

281 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:45:07am

re: #280 shanec99

You mean the Virgins wouldn't even offer to give them a band aid?

It would have to be a teeny weeny band aid

282 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:48:17am

Breaking news from NPR:
A Muslim cleric from Jordan went to the United Kingdom in the 1990s, where he gained asylum by claiming persecution. But he supposedly started preaching hate sermons. The British government wants to send him back to Jordan, but he says he'll be tortured there. Britain's human rights laws forbid deportation to a country that tortures.

Heh heh heh, British libs give political asylum to extremist Muslim preacher... he starts preaching hate in Britian... and now their laws wont allow them to get rid of him.

Liberals will be the death of us all.

283 Boogberg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:49:54am

Did someone mention politically incorrect jokes? I thought someone did!

Gene Tracy :D

Ahem. NSFW.

284 Crux Australis  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:50:04am

What do female Muslim "martyrs" get in Paradise? Anyone know?

285 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:52:18am

re: #279 Dustyvet
"We simply cannot give that guarantee anymore because we would be making our god out to be a liar. We have already been inundated by more than 10,000 'Infidel Slayers' which has almost depleted our entire stock of 80,000 virgins who are all waiting for the Muslim Heroes to enter paradise."
What does he mean by the expression "we would be making our god out to be a liar"?

286 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:52:50am

re: #282 shanec99

Breaking news from NPR:
A Muslim cleric from Jordan went to the United Kingdom in the 1990s, where he gained asylum by claiming persecution. But he supposedly started preaching hate sermons. The British government wants to send him back to Jordan, but he says he'll be tortured there. Britain's human rights laws forbid deportation to a country that tortures.

Heh heh heh, British libs give political asylum to extremist Muslim preacher... he starts preaching hate in Britian... and now their laws wont allow them to get rid of him.

Liberals will be the death of us all.

NPR must be really hard up for news, that story has been floating around for well over a year.

287 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:53:27am

re: #284 Crux Australis

What do female Muslim "martyrs" get in Paradise? Anyone know?


Yeah... so I guess in Paaradise Lesbianism is permitted. How else would it work?

288 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:54:03am

re: #283 Boogberg

Thanks. Needed that laugh to jump start my morning.

289 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:55:24am
290 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:55:28am

re: #286 Dustyvet

NPR must be really hard up for news, that story has been floating around for well over a year.


No, its time for the annual pledge campaign... so they are printing and publishing stories they would not normally print in order to increase their audience and donations.
Trying to say... we report everything, we are not biased.

291 Erik The Red  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:58:54am

Later all. Everyone have a fantastic Christmas tomorrow.

292 Crux Australis  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:03:04am

It is now Christmas Day in Sydney, Australia. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to my fellow lizards at LGF.

293 quickjustice  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:04:18am

A Message From Santa

"I'm taking this chance to inform you
That misfortune has taken away
The things that I need for my visit
My reindeer, my presents, my sleigh.
Now I'm making my rounds on a donkey
That's old and feeble and slow.
So if you don't see me this Christmas
It's because I'm out on my ass in the snow!"

294 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:05:15am

Young Muslim went on shooting spree in mosque... I guess he wanted to ensure that everyone remained peaceful.
[Link: www.westernresistance.com...]

295 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:06:30am

re: #292 Crux Australis

Merry Xmas

296 chubby vegan  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:07:36am

oops!

Merry Christmas Y'all.

297 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:08:45am

On Christmas Eve, this news from Europe:
[Link: www.westernresistance.com...]

Let us pray for peace.

298 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:09:25am

re: #292 Crux Australis

It is now Christmas Day in Sydney, Australia. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to my fellow lizards at LGF.

Merry Christmas! And may your New Year be happy and prosperous. :)

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:11:36am

re: #292 Crux Australis

It is now Christmas Day in Sydney, Australia. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to my fellow lizards at LGF.

Wow. I am wishing Merry Christmas to someone in the future.

300 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:19:47am

It's awfully quiet here this morning -- anyone else out there?

301 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:21:50am

re: #300 Empire1

It's awfully quiet here this morning -- anyone else out there?

It is very quiet this morning. Would a pot of very strong coffee help?

302 summergurl  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:21:53am

Morning Lizards -

Cookies in oven baking as I peruse the news

Looks like Seattle traded one environmental issue for another -

Sand or Salt?

303 Crux Australis  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:22:32am

With Prime Minister Kevin Rudd going on vacation Australia will have 3 females in line of seniority.
Queen Elizabeth - Governor General Quentin Bryce and acting Prime Minister Julia Gillard. Since the election last year this is the first time in Australia's history this has happened with Australia's first female Governor General and first female Deputy Prime Minister.

304 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:22:50am

re: #255 BlueCanuck

Spade is playing David Spade in everything he is in. He'll admit it. I'm a big fan.

Has a really funny stand-up routine.

305 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:24:32am

If anybody get's the movie "Burn After Reading" on DVD for Christmas, watch it immediately. It is great!

Also, can I borrow it when you're finished?

306 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:24:57am

re: #301 Cathypop

It is very quiet this morning. Would a pot of very strong coffee help?

Couldn't hurt -- I'll gladly have a cup!

307 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:25:15am

re: #302 summergurl

Well that's one more reason added to my list of why I left Seattle.

308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:26:59am

Hey Cathy? What state are you in? Literally, not figuratively. Gurl? Where you at? Empire?

309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:27:56am

re: #308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Santa's already visiting Crux. Just trying to figure out who's gonna see him first.

310 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:28:37am

re: #308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Texas. Why?

311 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:30:32am

re: #300 Empire1

It's awfully quiet here this morning -- anyone else out there?

*picks up cymbals*

*CRASH CRASH CRASH!
*CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH!

&#9834 &#9836 III LOVE A PARADE! &#9836 &#9834

*CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH!*
*CRASH CRASH CRASH!*

:d

312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:31:22am

re: #311 Miss Trixie

Shhh. Hung over.

Mornin'!

313 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:32:10am

re: #308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Cathy? What state are you in? Literally, not figuratively. Gurl? Where you at? Empire?

Lower Delaware -- between Harrington and the Maryland border. Nice rural area, with the place we live in the Farm Bank. And this is an old farm house, part of which is about 200 years old, with hand-hewn oak beams. The front part is newer, maybe 1940's? Old enough that the upstairs isn't heated, anyway.

314 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:32:13am

re: #311 Miss Trixie

*picks up cymbals*

*CRASH CRASH CRASH!
*CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH!

♪ ♬ III LOVE A PARADE! ♬ ♪

*CRASH CRASH CRASH CRASH!*
*CRASH CRASH CRASH!*

:d

Yow!
You got my attention!
Good morning Miss Trixie!

Too much noise at this time of the morning, though!

315 summergurl  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:33:06am

re: #307 Cathypop

Well that's one more reason added to my list of why I left Seattle.

Yeah, and I am California deserter...

316 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:33:27am

re: #311 Miss Trixie

Finally some noise. Thanks Miss Trixie

317 Crux Australis  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:35:32am

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Santa's already visiting Crux. Just trying to figure out who's gonna see him first.

Seeing that in summer there are 5 timezones in Australia it could get confusing.

318 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:36:16am

re: #315 summergurl

Tried California for a while and am glad not to be there any more

319 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:38:11am

re: #317 Crux Australis

Seeing that in summer there are 5 timezones in Australia it could get confusing.

Well, Merry Christmas to our Aussie friends!

We'll be waiting another day, yet.

FIVE timezones in Australia! I always forget how big Australia is. On maps and globes, it seems the scale is off or something.

320 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:38:54am

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Shhh. Hung over.

Mornin'!

WHAAAT?

/ ... looks around . .. where's my bagpipes ...
:p


Reine - morning, toots. I rarely drink coffee but had some earlier to celebrate (no booze) so I'm a tad hyper right now. :D

Cathypop - morning!

321 tedzilla99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:38:59am

ugh what a dreadful 'poem'

322 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:39:34am

re: #318 Cathypop

Me, too, but I'm not sure my stay there counts; I was an Army brat, and Dad was stationed at Two Rock army base, near Petaluma. We were there longer than he was, though, since we couldn't go with him when he was assigned to Clark AFB in the Philippines; we went over about a year later.

323 BignJames  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:40:13am

re: #300 Empire1

It's awfully quiet here this morning -- anyone else out there?

Is there anybody out there?

324 VioletTiger  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:43:25am

It's Christmas Eve here in the north east US and it's raining (dang!) I wish all of you a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah and peace and joy whatever you celebrate.

I have missed some really good threads here the last couple days as I struggle to carry on the family traditions now that my Mom has passed. I'm doing okay, though. Scorecard so far...

Pizzelles - A+ , just as good as Mom's, finally. Wish I could send you all one.
Ricotta cookies - B
Macaroons - D-, I should just quit trying these.
Feast of the Seven Fishes - I am up to six this year, and that's if I count the stuffed shrimp as two fishes. I wonder if I feed the cats a can of tuna will that count as seven? I appreciate Mom more and more as time goes on.

A couple of cute things to try for those with littles expecting Santa. My littlest in a freshman in college and I miss these things.

Sleigh bells - Kids won't go to bed? We would tie fishing line to bells and hang them out the window. They would go to the door and listen for sleigh bells. They ran up the stairs at about mach 3! When my daughter got older we would 'ring bells' at the neigbor's house on Christmas Eve.

The Santa evidence? Of course he drank the milk and left cookie crumbs, but what about sooty footprints? Get a stiff piece of cardboard and trace the sole of a big boot. Take some baking soda and put it in a flour sifter. Sift it over the cut-out to make footprints from the fireplace to the tree.

Peace to all.

325 summergurl  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:43:42am

Is everyone just hung over? Too much Bailey's already?

Drinks some coffee Man!

326 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:45:24am

re: #320 Miss Trixie

WHAAAT?

/ ... looks around . .. where's my bagpipes ...
:p


Reine - morning, toots. I rarely drink coffee but had some earlier to celebrate (no booze) so I'm a tad hyper right now. :D

Cathypop - morning!

A "tad" hyper? LOL. Understatement of the year, my dear!

327 Crux Australis  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:46:02am

re: #319 reine.de.tout

FIVE timezones in Australia! I always forget how big Australia is. On maps and globes, it seems the scale is off or something.

That's only in summer. In winter it's 3. Queensland is the only state that doesn't have Daylight Savings. So it throws everything else into confusion.
It's only an hour flight from Sydney to Brisbane so you arrive in Brisbane almost the same you left Sydney. HAHAHA

328 summergurl  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:46:20am

re: #324 VioletTiger

It's Christmas Eve here in the north east US and it's raining (dang!) I wish all of you a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah and peace and joy whatever you celebrate.

I have missed some really good threads here the last couple days as I struggle to carry on the family traditions now that my Mom has passed. I'm doing okay, though. Scorecard so far...

Pizzelles - A+ , just as good as Mom's, finally. Wish I could send you all one.
Ricotta cookies - B
Macaroons - D-, I should just quit trying these.
Feast of the Seven Fishes - I am up to six this year, and that's if I count the stuffed shrimp as two fishes. I wonder if I feed the cats a can of tuna will that count as seven? I appreciate Mom more and more as time goes on.

A couple of cute things to try for those with littles expecting Santa. My littlest in a freshman in college and I miss these things.

Sleigh bells - Kids won't go to bed? We would tie fishing line to bells and hang them out the window. They would go to the door and listen for sleigh bells. They ran up the stairs at about mach 3! When my daughter got older we would 'ring bells' at the neigbor's house on Christmas Eve.

The Santa evidence? Of course he drank the milk and left cookie crumbs, but what about sooty footprints? Get a stiff piece of cardboard and trace the sole of a big boot. Take some baking soda and put it in a flour sifter. Sift it over the cut-out to make footprints from the fireplace to the tree.

Peace to all.


Wish I could try those cookies! I make Mexican Wedding Cakes that my grandmother used to make - after several years of trying to perfect the recipe, I finally "got it" last year and gave myself an A+. The memories those cookies bring back are something else -

329 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:48:08am

re: #327 Crux Australis

That's only in summer. In winter it's 3. Queensland is the only state that doesn't have Daylight Savings. So it throws everything else into confusion.
It's only an hour flight from Sydney to Brisbane so you arrive in Brisbane almost the same you left Sydney. HAHAHA

I always wondered if that happened somewhere, and now I know!

How strange that must be. There are the odd isolated places in the US that don't follow Daylight Savings Time, and I always wondered how those places managed with the fellows in the next town over who are on DST.

330 Crux Australis  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:48:19am

re: #327 Crux Australis

same time you left Sydney. grrr

331 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:49:28am

Did you find your bagpipes, Miss Trixie? I do love that sound ... as long as it's not "Amazing Grace"! I've heard that one so often it makes me want to throw things.

332 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:50:08am

Well, Happy Christmas Eve to everyone, and Merry Christmas tomorrow!
Will be a busy day for me, our family typically does the whole opening of presents thing on Christmas Eve. And the Roi will be home, coming in from offshore this afternoon sometime!

333 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:51:00am

its 450 pm in East Africa... 7 hours and 10 minutes until Christmas. But is 82 degrees outside.

334 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:51:50am

Need some snow... this green Christmas just isnt cutting it.

335 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:52:14am

reine

A "tad" hyper? LOL. Understatement of the year, my dear!

I distinctly asked for a decaf at the local Tim Horton's and when I realized after the first JOLT that it wasn't, I couldn't complain and take it back because it was bought for me by my carpool buddy and I couldn't refuse so I drank it anyway and now I'm paying the price.

*BOING*BOING*BOING*BOING*BOING*BOING*

336 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:52:29am

Good morning, everyone. Yesterday was terrible, hairy day, driving back from Indiana with about twenty cars off the road, passing at least five accidents on the interstates, and generally moving at no more than 40 mph. But we made it home, safe and sound, and everyone is here, which makes it so much better.

So Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, and Merry Frickin' Festivus.

337 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:53:05am

re: #334 shanec99

Need some snow... this green Christmas just isnt cutting it.

You can take all of mine. All four inches. Plus I'll through in about another half inch of ice, just to make you cold.

338 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:53:37am

re: #331 Empire1

Did you find your bagpipes, Miss Trixie? I do love that sound ... as long as it's not "Amazing Grace"! I've heard that one so often it makes me want to throw things.

No pipes but I did find a kazoo ...

:D

339 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:54:37am

re: #338 Miss Trixie
Please put down the kazoo.

340 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:55:38am

re: #336 vxbush

Good morning, everyone. Yesterday was terrible, hairy day, driving back from Indiana with about twenty cars off the road, passing at least five accidents on the interstates, and generally moving at no more than 40 mph. But we made it home, safe and sound, and everyone is here, which makes it so much better.

So Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, and Merry Frickin' Festivus.

Glad to hear everyone is safe and sound!

(psst - stay away from Miss Trixie, she is wired today)

341 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:55:42am

re: #329 reine.de.tout

I always wondered if that happened somewhere, and now I know!

How strange that must be. There are the odd isolated places in the US that don't follow Daylight Savings Time, and I always wondered how those places managed with the fellows in the next town over who are on DST.

I lived in southern Indiana where we followed DST, and then moved to a city near Indy when they didn't. Traveling back home was always a nightmare, especially if you had a specific time engagement, because you had to translate it back if they weren't on DST. Hubby almost missed a very important meeting because of it once!

342 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:55:47am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this Christmas Eve?

343 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:55:54am

re: #336 vxbush

Glad you made it home safely!

344 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:56:05am

re: #340 reine.de.tout

Glad to hear everyone is safe and sound!

(psst - stay away from Miss Trixie, she is wired today)

Strange, I don't see any battery terminals...

/

345 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:56:54am

re: #341 vxbush

I lived in southern Indiana where we followed DST, and then moved to a city near Indy when they didn't. Traveling back home was always a nightmare, especially if you had a specific time engagement, because you had to translate it back if they weren't on DST. Hubby almost missed a very important meeting because of it once!

I can see where that might very easily happen.
I have enough trouble "translating" among the different regular timezones. Add in another one and I would be completely lost.

346 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:56:55am

re: #343 Empire1

Glad you made it home safely!

So am I! Poor hubby; he really gets aggrevated at how stressed I get, driving under such conditions, that it makes it harder for him. But I always think he's driving ten miles too fast.

347 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:57:06am

Good morning ladies, gentlemen, and everybody else.

The market futures are down about 0.25% as light trading will occur on a short trading day.

Mortgage applications mushroom on lower rates
Refinancings pace upsurge; ARMs all but disappear

CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- With mortgage rates approaching record lows, the volume of applications filed for mortgages jumped a seasonally adjusted 48% last week compared with the previous week, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association's weekly survey.
Applications for the week ended Dec. 19 ran 124.6% ahead of the mortgage activity seen during the same week last year, the Washington-based MBA said. Its survey covers about half of all U.S. retail residential mortgage applications.

The boost in applications coincided with another drop in mortgage rates, as the government's efforts to thaw out the home-mortgage market show further signs of having the desired effect.

According to the MBA's survey, rates on 30-year fixed-rate mortgages averaged 5.04% last week, down from 5.18% the previous week. This interest rate hasn't been lower since the 4.99% average rate seen for the week ended June 13, 2003.

Fifteen-year fixed-rate mortgages averaged 4.91%, down from 4.93% the week before. And one-year ARMs averaged 6.36%, down from 6.63%.
Applications to refinance existing mortgages increased 62.6% on a week-to-week basis, while applications filed for mortgages to buy homes increased a seasonally adjusted 10.6%.

I'm hearing anecdotal information that mortgage lenders are now working overtime and hiring some extra staff to handle the surge in applications.

348 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:57:18am

re: #342 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this Christmas Eve?

Sleepy, glad to be home, and debating what order to do things today.

349 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:58:07am

re: #337 vxbush

You can take all of mine. All four inches. Plus I'll through in about another half inch of ice, just to make you cold.

We got rain coming for most of the rest of the day.

350 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:59:13am

re: #349 3 wood

We got rain coming for most of the rest of the day.

Then we won't miss it, and Shane can have it all! Everybody wins!

351 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:59:30am

re: #349 3 wood

We got rain coming for most of the rest of the day.

So how are you today? Family all here to spend the holidays?

352 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:59:37am

re: #344 vxbush

Strange, I don't see any battery terminals...

/

Anode to Joy. :P

Saaay, look over there - somebody brought chocolates!

*ZOOM!*

353 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:00:22am

re: #348 vxbush

Sleepy, glad to be home, and debating what order to do things today.


Boy..what an ice storm we had last night..our driveway was a skating rink.
you simply could not drive

354 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:00:57am

re: #346 vxbush

So am I! Poor hubby; he really gets aggrevated at how stressed I get, driving under such conditions, that it makes it harder for him. But I always think he's driving ten miles too fast.

The Roi tailgates other cars. It drives me crazy, completely stresses me out.
But when I ask him to just back off a bit, I always ask him to do it just for me, because it makes me nervous.

355 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:01:40am

re: #346 vxbush

Me, I'm just glad it's him driving in bad conditions and not me! He's a lot better at it than I am, since all I want to do is cower under the dash and whimper quietly ...

356 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:02:13am

re: #352 Miss Trixie

Anode to Joy. :P

Saaay, look over there - somebody brought chocolates!

*ZOOM!*

LOL!
I had a lot of chocolate yesterday, capped of last night with a large chocolate shake from Sonic, ordered with extra chocolate!

Funny - from your comments, I can actually picture in my head you being in overdrive!

357 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:04:01am

Must run, things to do and all of that.

Here's wishing everyone happy and safe holidays!

358 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:04:17am

re: #352 Miss Trixie

Anode to Joy. :P

Saaay, look over there - somebody brought chocolates!

*ZOOM!*

Ah; wireless energy source. Now I see. You should patent that; make a fortune, you will.

359 summergurl  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:07:29am

re: #347 3 wood

Good morning ladies, gentlemen, and everybody else.

The market futures are down about 0.25% as light trading will occur on a short trading day.

Mortgage applications mushroom on lower rates
Refinancings pace upsurge; ARMs all but disappear


I'm hearing anecdotal information that mortgage lenders are now working overtime and hiring some extra staff to handle the surge in applications.

I wonder if there is a refinancing surge for 15 year mortgages - hubby and I are seriously considering it.

360 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:07:41am

re: #355 Empire1

Me, I'm just glad it's him driving in bad conditions and not me! He's a lot better at it than I am, since all I want to do is cower under the dash and whimper quietly ...

We really only had one problem: the traffic had come to a virtual standstill as an accident was ahead, and he hadn't realized that the cars weren't moving at all. He put the breaks on slowly, but the ABS brakes came on and we started skidding. He did a good job of keeping us on the road but we didn't stop in time for the car ahead of us, and luckily the lane next to us was empty so he was able to finish breaking in the next lane. But oh! That was the moment when I was sure we were going to be the next accident.

There was a smaller SUV that was driving 75 on the road before the ice started coming down seriously, and I just knew that guy was going to be in an accident. Sure enough, about 30 miles down the road, he and a red car were looking at each other, each quite shaken. The red car seemed to have lost the bet.

361 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:07:50am

re: #327 Crux Australis

That's only in summer. In winter it's 3. Queensland is the only state that doesn't have Daylight Savings. So it throws everything else into confusion.
It's only an hour flight from Sydney to Brisbane so you arrive in Brisbane almost the same you left Sydney. HAHAHA

Heh. Same thing happens here when you fly from Detroit to Chicago. A travel agent was trying to explain to a really, really stupid lady how her flight from Detroit landed in Chicago (Central Time) 5 minutes before it left Detroit (Eastern Time). Finally he told her it was a time-traveling plane.

362 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:09:09am

The drops in economic indicator activity is starting to slow down and fall within predicted expectations.

For example, this report:

Treasurys up after slew of data

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Treasurys rose Wednesday, pushing yield down, after reports on joblessness and consumer spending pointed to further weakness in the economy. Two-year note yields fell 6 basis points to 0.85%. Initial claims for unemployment benefits rose 30,000 to a seasonally adjusted 586,000 in the week ended Dec. 20, the highest since 1982. A separate report said consumer spending declined 0.6% in November, though economists surveyed by MarketWatch expected a 0.7% slip. Another report said durable goods orders fell 1% last month, less than the 3% drop forecast. A measure of consumer inflation excluding energy and food prices was flat in November, as predicted. Bond trading is expected to end at 2 p.m. Eastern and remain shuttered on Thursday for Christmas.

Yes, unemployment claims were up a little more than expected (and may be revised later), but the other indicators fell within expectations. That means that the damage to the economy is now being reasonably accurately assessed by the experts and traders.

That takes away a certain amount of uncertainty. The durable goods number is a good example, it fell 1% instead of the expected 3%. Another month of a small drop would indicated that the recessionary drop in numbers is slowing and we are finding a hard bottom tothe economic activity.

As inventories drop and prices adjust down then things become cheaper, operating costs are lower and profits are easier for businesses to make.

If your sales drop 5% but your costs drop more than that, you had a net improvement.

363 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:09:42am

re: #361 Alouette

x Australis

Heh. Same thing happens here when you fly from Detroit to Chicago. A travel agent was trying to explain to a really, really stupid lady how her flight from Detroit landed in Chicago (Central Time) 5 minutes before it left Detroit (Eastern Time). Finally he told her it was a time-traveling plane.

I love how my daughter left England at 6am and arrived in Detroit at noon. That's awesome time travel, but why can't they do a better job and make her lose no time at all?

/

364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:10:25am

re: #361 Alouette

Chicago/Detroit is an interesting flight. Seeing the full width of Lake Michigan is cool. Was glued to the window the whole flight.

365 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:11:10am

re: #351 vxbush

So how are you today? Family all here to spend the holidays?

Fine, thanks.

With my new career, this is the first time I've had this much time off around the Holidays in my working life.

My eldest daughter will drive up from Springfield this afternoon after work, and then we will all be here.

366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:11:43am

re: #364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Chicago/Detroit is an interesting flight. Seeing the full width of Lake Michigan is cool. Was glued to the window the whole flight.

Well, at least until the "over Michigan" part of the flight.

367 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:12:03am

Alouette

Finally he told her it was a time-traveling plane.

*guffaw*

368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:12:09am

re: #365 3 wood

Mornin' Wood!

369 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:12:43am

Anyone interested in a recipe for chocolate-covered peanut butter balls? One of the ladies brought some in during our jury deliberations, and they were delicious!

370 summergurl  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:13:30am

re: #367 Miss Trixie

Alouette


*guffaw*


Sometimes you just have to give up on some people - and make it easy on their brains

371 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:14:12am

re: #365 3 wood

Fine, thanks.

With my new career, this is the first time I've had this much time off around the Holidays in my working life.

My eldest daughter will drive up from Springfield this afternoon after work, and then we will all be here.

Excellent! Glad to hear it. One of my sisters called me last night, and we got to compare notes on the holidays. She has been in a very "bah humbug" mood this year, but her son's fiance has been very sweet and has done all the decorating for her--which thrills my sis to no end. If my brother-in-law is up to cooking (and he usually does, unless he's having medical problems), then she'll just have to clean up the dishes, and that's her idea of a great Christmas.

372 adragonknowsbest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:14:16am

I'm a bit angry and it shouldn't be this way on Christmas Eve but do you remember those two Texas Border Patrol agents who went to jail for the non-fatal shooting (they shot him in the ass) of a known Mexican drug runner? Their names are Ramos and Compean. I scanned the names of all the people Bush has pardoned. Their names were not among them. Bunch of people who got involved in shady land deals or had a conspiracy to distribute crack cocaine get out of jail free but not these two innocent men who only tried to serve their country. There is no justice anymore people. Let us not think that out party is truly better than their party. They are both two wings of the same diseased bird. I am gonna harass some lacky Congressmen/women in the state of CT but those of you in the great state of Texas please let it be known that you will not stand for this injustice. Thank you that has been weighing on me for some time now.

373 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:14:38am

re: #364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Chicago/Detroit is an interesting flight. Seeing the full width of Lake Michigan is cool. Was glued to the window the whole flight.

THAT explains the unexpected solar eclipse that day ... :D

374 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:14:48am

re: #359 summergurl

I wonder if there is a refinancing surge for 15 year mortgages - hubby and I are seriously considering it.

There is a surge for everything.

These are historically low rates that you might not see again for 30 years or so.

I'd look into refinancing if I were you.

Plus, the banks are starving for the business so you can get a pretty good deal on fees/points.

375 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:14:49am

re: #369 Empire1

Anyone interested in a recipe for chocolate-covered peanut butter balls? One of the ladies brought some in during our jury deliberations, and they were delicious!

Are these the same ones that some folks call buckeyes? I've had those. Tasty, indeed.

376 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:15:08am

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

'Morning Veg.

377 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:15:58am

re: #373 Miss Trixie

THAT explains the unexpected solar eclipse that day ... :D

You callin' me fat?!

378 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:16:26am

re: #377 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You callin' me fat?!

Not...going...there...

379 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:16:46am

re: #360 vxbush

We really only had one problem: the traffic had come to a virtual standstill as an accident was ahead, and he hadn't realized that the cars weren't moving at all. He put the breaks on slowly, but the ABS brakes came on and we started skidding. He did a good job of keeping us on the road but we didn't stop in time for the car ahead of us, and luckily the lane next to us was empty so he was able to finish breaking in the next lane. But oh! That was the moment when I was sure we were going to be the next accident.

There was a smaller SUV that was driving 75 on the road before the ice started coming down seriously, and I just knew that guy was going to be in an accident. Sure enough, about 30 miles down the road, he and a red car were looking at each other, each quite shaken. The red car seemed to have lost the bet.

That must've been frightening!

And yeah, some of those folks just don't think to slow down. The four-wheel-drive ones are worst, imo; sure, they can go faster with better control, but they can't stop any shorter than anyone else.

380 Geepers  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:17:21am

3 wood (#362),

If your sales drop 5% but your costs drop more than that, you had a net improvement.

That's crazy talk.

We're in The Longest Recession In 25 Years

The AP says so so it must be true.

381 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:17:58am

re: #364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was glued to the window the whole flight.

So flight attendants are using superglue to control passengers?

382 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:18:24am

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (39 degrees, going up to 61 degrees) but cloudy, overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone one on this Christmas Eve morning?

383 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:19:08am

re: #347 3 wood

Good morning ladies, gentlemen, and everybody else.

The market futures are down about 0.25% as light trading will occur on a short trading day.

Mortgage applications mushroom on lower rates
Refinancings pace upsurge; ARMs all but disappear


I'm hearing anecdotal information that mortgage lenders are now working overtime and hiring some extra staff to handle the surge in applications.

I'm part of the boom. I've filled out 3 applications so far. I have one firm offer for 5%, but I'm still waiting to hear on the other to apps, which would put me at 4.75%

384 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:19:55am

re: #375 vxbush

Are these the same ones that some folks call buckeyes? I've had those. Tasty, indeed.

I don't know -- this was the first time I'd seen them, and she just called them peanut butter balls.

385 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:20:18am

February crude is trading at $36.63, down 6%

Oil falls on expectation inventories rose a third week

Crude-oil futures fell Wednesday for a third session, tumbling below $37 a barrel on expectations that U.S. crude inventories had risen for a third week. The Energy Information Administration will release last week's petroleum inventories data Wednesday. Analysts surveyed by energy information provider Platts expect a 1.5 million barrel buildup in crude stockpiles. Crude for February delivery lost as much as $2.35, or 6%, to $36.63 a barrel in overnight electronic trading.

386 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:20:20am

Heading out to the airport now. Gotta park my car, grab the shuttle, check in, go through security line, wait for my flight.

Question: should I leave my winter parka in the car when I get on the shuttle, or shlep it with me to California?

387 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:20:37am

re: #383 DeafDog
5% - FIVE PERCENT? FIXED?! Whoa! That's just a great fixed rate - how long do you have before you have to accept that offer?

388 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:21:09am

re: #364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Chicago/Detroit is an interesting flight. Seeing the full width of Lake Michigan is cool. Was glued to the window the whole flight.

indeed...I get to see this a coupla times a year...coming from Minny to Grand Rapids will take you directly over Chicago and not to high being in a decending mode...very cool...I love the high views from flying

389 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:21:26am

re: #385 3 wood
Good morning 3 wood - how are you doing this morning?

390 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:21:36am

Good Morning Lizards! Happy Chanukah! Merry Christmas Eve!

It is wet and cold here in CT. Snow/sleet/freezing rain this morning turning to all rain as it warms up into the 40's. Then it is supposed to be real foggy tonight. Perfect weather for visiting the families on this Christmas Eve. /

I hope everyone is well today.

391 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:22:36am

re: #379 Empire1

That must've been frightening!

And yeah, some of those folks just don't think to slow down. The four-wheel-drive ones are worst, imo; sure, they can go faster with better control, but they can't stop any shorter than anyone else.

Yes, it's amazing how people justify their driving habits. I have a stick shift, and I drive in such a way that I leave four times the amount of space between me and the car in front of me than what I even think I need, and if I slide even a little I just let the car coast. So yes, probably 60% of folks are going faster than me, but I get home in one piece.

392 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:22:50am

Oh, what the heck --- here's the recipe.

Peanut Butter Balls

1 stick butter (2, if desired to make forming the balls easier)
2 cups crunchy peanut butter
1 lb. powdered sugar
3 cups Rice Krispies

Mix together and form into balls.

12 oz. chocolate chips
1/5 lb Parafix or other food-grade paraffin

Melt together in double boiler. Dip peanut butter balls into thin mixture and set aside to cool.
Makes about 75.

393 summergurl  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:24:14am

TIme to get moving - need to head to the store to pick up a few forgotten ingredients...

stay warm Lizards...

394 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:24:16am

re: #379 Empire1

That must've been frightening!

And yeah, some of those folks just don't think to slow down. The four-wheel-drive ones are worst, imo; sure, they can go faster with better control, but they can't stop any shorter than anyone else.

They weigh more than passenger cars and take longer to stop. The only thing that stops them on ice is other cars.

395 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:24:48am

re: #390 Ford_Prefect
Good morning Ford! The same to you - and it's dry here today, but we're supposed to get a lot of rain tomorrow! I'm doing great actually - heard a acapella group called "Straight No Chaser" - about an 8 guy acapella music group singing a fun version of the 12 Days of Christmas (including a sideways walk to singing about a dradel!). Great music - I'm just a sucker for great vocal harmonies!
Hope youre doing well today - despite the weather?

396 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:25:01am

Ack! "thin" should be "this" -- sorry!

397 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:25:09am

OK time to leave! I'll let you know when I get to LA. Y'all want me to get you keychains?

398 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:25:13am

re: #394 Who Watches the Watchmen?

They weigh more than passenger cars and take longer to stop. The only thing that stops them on ice is other cars.

In our case, we had all our daughter's luggage, including one big duffle bag filled with nothing but books, in the very back of the van. For once, I was glad that she overpacked--it helped us with traction!

399 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:25:47am

re: #386 Alouette

Heading out to the airport now. Gotta park my car, grab the shuttle, check in, go through security line, wait for my flight.

Question: should I leave my winter parka in the car when I get on the shuttle, or shlep it with me to California?

Ca you lock in in a locker at the airport so that you can be warm to and from your car?

Good morning, Lizards. Merry Christmas Eve.

400 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:26:00am

re: #395 realwest

Good morning Ford! The same to you - and it's dry here today, but we're supposed to get a lot of rain tomorrow! I'm doing great actually - heard a acapella group called "Straight No Chaser" - about an 8 guy acapella music group singing a fun version of the 12 Days of Christmas (including a sideways walk to singing about a dradel!). Great music - I'm just a sucker for great vocal harmonies!
Hope youre doing well today - despite the weather?

I heard that last Christmas! Great group, from my alma mater. Heh.

401 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:26:18am

re: #397 Alouette

OK time to leave! I'll let you know when I get to LA. Y'all want me to get you keychains?

See's Chocolates, please. :D

402 shanec99  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:27:13am

re: #337 vxbush

You can take all of mine. All four inches. Plus I'll through in about another half inch of ice, just to make you cold.

Send it, I will be glad for all of it.

403 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:27:30am

re: #387 realwest

5% - FIVE PERCENT? FIXED?! Whoa! That's just a great fixed rate - how long do you have before you have to accept that offer?

That offer was a mortgage broker and they want $4k in closing costs. I'm not sure how long it stays available, but I'm dragging my feet there. To be honest, I filled out that application as a lark to see how much I could save and it's significant. Then they got pushy and and it turned me off.

My other two apps are with banks directly. They are talking 4.875/4.75% with 3k in closing costs.

404 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:27:36am

re: #395 realwest

I am doing well, thank you. Managing to stay dry and not do any work hard.

405 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:27:42am

re: #397 Alouette
Hey Alouette - y'all don't have to get me a keychain, just have a great, safe flight!
And I don't know what to tell ya about the parka - when ya return you'll wish you'd packed it as walk out to get your car! LOL!
Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah to you!

406 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:28:19am

re: #397 Alouette
I'd like a pen with the the bikini model ,when you tip it
she strips!
Might have to go to the beach to get it ! K?
Merry Christmas ...and thanks in advance!

407 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:29:10am

Track Santa's progress around the world.

He will be moving to a new location in 1 minute!

408 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:30:37am

re: #407 Ford_Prefect

Track Santa's progress around the world.

He will be moving to a new location in 1 minute!

He just moved to Fuji, Japan.

409 Throbert McGee  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:31:09am

AP Headline of the Morning (via Yahoo):

Blagojevich questioning takes up Obama's time

ZOMG, rilly?!

And lest anyone miss the full and dire implications, it's clarified in the third graf:

But the corruption scandal has drained precious energy from Obama's preparations to take over the White House.

410 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:31:11am

re: #400 vxbush
Hey{vxbush} hope you're doing well this morning!
What is your alma mater? They were sure sounding good - but I could only find a few songs by them on Immem - so I'm now listening to a great playlist of about 15 songs by "Rockapella" great, cheerful way to start the day!
If you're interested it's here: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

411 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:31:37am

re: #379 Empire1

And yeah, some of those folks just don't think to slow down. The four-wheel-drive ones are worst, imo; sure, they can go faster with better control, but they can't stop any shorter than anyone else.

Yep, they seem to forget that they only have 4 tires in contact witht he road/ice/snow like everyone else and the frozen stuff is just as slippery for them.

I'm seen a bunch of 4 wheelers weave through traffic and then slide right through intersections around here.

412 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:31:53am

I see we have a 3 star general officer tracking santa? Imagine the cost of this at his pay grade. I guess the world is experiencing no problems on christmas eve. MERRY CHRISTMAS lizards! re: #407 Ford_Prefect

413 fclass308  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:32:03am

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mornin' Wood!

must resist bathroom humor...must resist...must resist


Mornin' Lizards.
Happy Christmas Eve!

414 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:32:31am

re: #389 realwest

Good morning 3 wood - how are you doing this morning?

Doing great, how's by you?

415 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:32:45am

I have to post this one more time before the Christmas season ends.

Achmed The Dead Terrorist Christmas Carols

416 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:32:54am

re: #402 shanec99

Send it, I will be glad for all of it.

Oh. Big problem. I'll need dry ice to pack it, otherwise it will melt when it lands in Africa. And I'm all out of dry ice.

Will this do?

417 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:33:25am

re: #403 DeafDog
FWIW, my advice is to stay with the banks - there are some VERY GOOD and reputable mortgage brokers still left, but not many - and dealing with the bank directly eliminates some costs for ya.
CAUTION: those rates are great, but usually only for folks with some equity in their homes and can take a new "current" (read accurate) appraisal.

418 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:33:44am

re: #410 realwest
hi RW, hope this christmas finds you and your mother well :>) Manheim Steamroller cranking on this marvolus morning...

419 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:34:15am

re: #403 DeafDog

My other two apps are with banks directly. They are talking 4.875/4.75% with 3k in closing costs.

Shop around.

These rates are going to be low for a while yet.

420 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:34:45am

Good Morning Lizards. I am waking up to a fresh 2-3 inches of global warming, on top of the 6-7 from yesterday, on top of the 10-13 from the day before.

/Thank God I decided to hold off on buying a snowblower this year, because there was no way our winter could be worse than last (already surpassing last years monthly snow totals).

421 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:34:47am

re: #414 3 wood
morning 3 snowing in chi?

422 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:35:32am

re: #415 Ford_Prefect

I have to post this one more time before the Christmas season ends.

Achmed The Dead Terrorist Christmas Carols

Go ahead then.

423 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:35:34am

re: #412 apachegunner
Hey Guns! Merry Christmas to you, too! And hey, for Santa the least we can do is provide a 3 star general!

424 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:35:50am

re: #410 realwest

Hey{vxbush} hope you're doing well this morning!
What is your alma mater? They were sure sounding good - but I could only find a few songs by them on Immem - so I'm now listening to a great playlist of about 15 songs by "Rockapella" great, cheerful way to start the day!
If you're interested it's here: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

I'm fantastic, because I'm home, I'm warm, and the family is all here.

I went to Indiana University Bloomington, and Straight No Chaser was set up there by some music students. They have several songs on YouTube.

And yes, Rocapella is amazing, too. They have a video out that I rented months ago; just awesome.

425 sawblade88  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:35:51am

re: #411 3 wood

Yep, they seem to forget that they only have 4 tires in contact witht he road/ice/snow like everyone else and the frozen stuff is just as slippery for them.

I'm seen a bunch of 4 wheelers weave through traffic and then slide right through intersections around here.

Everyone who drives on slippery stuff has to learn about it the hard way, it seems. Once you have had the experience of sliding down a road backwards at 30 mph, you develop more respect for icy roads.

Some people can learn in one trial and it lasts a lifetime. Others have to learn every year. For a few, it's every time it snows.

426 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:36:11am

re: #409 Throbert McGee

That artical came from the non-partisan associated press, so it must be true. I'm surprised that they did not also mention that the Obama questioning is taking up Balgojevich's time, too. So this scandal is doubly bad!

/

427 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:36:47am

re: #409 Throbert McGee

Quality spin control and whitewashing takes time.

428 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:37:09am

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mornin' Wood!


is that kinda like addressing the ball in golf? always standing tall in the morning like ya took the blue pill sometime last night.

429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:38:08am

re: #428 apachegunner

is that kinda like addressing the ball in golf? always standing tall in the morning like ya took the blue pill sometime last night.

You're projecting.

HA! get it? Projecting?

430 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:38:29am

re: #418 apachegunner
Thanks Guns! I like Manheim Steamroller but once I get acapella singing in my head, I just gotta go in that direction!

431 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:38:39am

re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
LOL

432 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:38:55am

re: #418 apachegunner

hi RW, hope this christmas finds you and your mother well :>) Manheim Steamroller cranking on this marvolus morning...

I have a Christmas channel on my Pandora Radio that is playing the Vince Guaraldi Trio's O Tannenbaum from A Charlie Brown Christmas. Love that album and the show.

433 Throbert McGee  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:38:58am

re: #407 Ford_Prefect

Track Santa's progress around the world.

He will be moving to a new location in 1 minute!


Dang, that guy can really book -- from Vladivostok to Tokyo in seconds!

Why is it that other fat people can never move that fast when you're behind one on a narrow sidewalk? ;-P

434 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:39:45am

re: #421 apachegunner

morning 3 snowing in chi?

They are supposed to get a few more inches.

I'm about 130 miles south of Chicago, so we got freezing rain.

435 Throbert McGee  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:39:50am

re: #415 Ford_Prefect

I have to post this one more time before the Christmas season ends.

Achmed The Dead Terrorist Christmas Carols

SILENCE!

436 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:40:02am

re: #432 Ford_Prefect
awww, charlie brown. always great especially at christmas

437 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:40:08am

re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You're projecting.

HA! get it? Projecting?

Man, you just kill yourself don't you?

438 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:40:40am

re: #434 3 wood
so a snoblower won't work huh?

439 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:41:53am

OMG PUPPIES!

Needed a distraction...

440 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:42:55am

re: #433 Throbert McGee

Dang, that guy can really book -- from Vladivostok to Tokyo in seconds!

Why is it that other fat people can never move that fast when you're behind one on a narrow sidewalk? ;-P

The 3D version in Google Earth is pretty cool. In fact if you have never seen Google Earth that is pretty cool too. I work in land surveying and we use it all the time to check out sites before we go there or before we do proposals for work.

441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:43:01am

re: #437 Ford_Prefect

I had typed, "I slay me!" then deleted it. In retrospect? eh.

BTW, NASA can launch a tool box that is faster than Santa...

442 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:43:30am

re: #439 vxbush

OMG PUPPIES!

Needed a distraction...

Wow! A flying puppy!

443 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:43:49am

Mornin lizards.

0bama presidency ends in 1488 days
New Monk episodes ends in 15 days

444 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:44:10am

re: #417 realwest

re: #419 3 wood

Good advice. I'm pretty jazzed about the possibilities here.

Between the lowering cost of gas and the potential savings from mortgage, my personal finances will be significantly better than they were a just six months ago.

I'm not saying this to glout. My point is that my story - I'm sure - is not unique. There are many others who will also be feeling the 'freedom' of increased cash flow. The economy may snap back faster than it has felt like in the last few months.

445 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:44:39am

re: #441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I had typed, "I slay me!" then deleted it. In retrospect? eh.

BTW, NASA can launch a tool box that is faster than Santa...

I hope Santa doesn't get nailed by that thing.

446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:44:40am

re: #439 vxbush

OMG PUPPIES!

Needed a distraction...

Put a black face on the one on the left, you have my Rocky!

Yeah, I know. "Racist!" Sheesh.

:D (Jolsen)

447 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:44:44am

re: #424 vxbush
Wow, thanks for that link! Not a member of YouTube so rely on the kindness of friends for links to stuff!
Yeah it's hard for me to believe that Rocapella got started with a 45 second jingle for Folger's Coffee about 10 years ago or so, and now have like 12 CD's out - I've been looking for that stupid Folgers song on Imeem music for a few minutes but it's gonna take awhile until I find it (it was a non-credited bonus track on their first CD; cracked me up when I heard it the first time!).

448 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:44:49am

re: #442 Ford_Prefect

Wow! A flying puppy!

Yes, although his ears aren't quite large enough to generate enough lift...

449 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:45:10am

Did someone say box?

450 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:45:46am

On a happier note

Youtube Video
451 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:46:26am

re: #447 realwest

Wow, thanks for that link! Not a member of YouTube so rely on the kindness of friends for links to stuff!
Yeah it's hard for me to believe that Rocapella got started with a 45 second jingle for Folger's Coffee about 10 years ago or so, and now have like 12 CD's out - I've been looking for that stupid Folgers song on Imeem music for a few minutes but it's gonna take awhile until I find it (it was a non-credited bonus track on their first CD; cracked me up when I heard it the first time!).

This one?

452 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:46:27am

[Cartman:] Weeelll,

Kyle's mom's a bitch, she's a big fat bitch,
She's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world,
She's a stupid bitch, if there ever was a bitch,
She's a bitch to all the boys and girls.

On Monday she's a bitch
On Tuesday she's a bitch
And Wednesdays and Saturdays she's a bitch
Then on Sunday just to be different,
She's a super king kong mega mega biatch

Have you ever met my friend Kyle's Mom,
She's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world,
She's a mean old bitch and she has stupid hair,
She's a bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch
Bitch, bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch
She's a stupid bitch, Kyle's Mom's a bitch,
And she's such a dirty bitch.

Talk to kids around the world,
It might go a little something like this...

[Sung in three different languages by other children]

Have you ever met my friend Kyle's Mom,
She's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world,
She's a mean old bitch, she has stupid hair,
She's a bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch
Bitch, bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch.
She's a stupid bitch, Kyle's Mom's a bitch,
And she's such a dirty bitch;

I really mean it,
Kyle's Mom, she's a big fat, fucking bitch
Big old fat fuckin' bitch, Kyle's Mommm
Yeahhh, Chaaa

453 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:47:45am

re: #444 DeafDog
yep, thank gawd for nobama

454 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:47:50am

re: #452 Harry Tuttle

Yes. Well. Thank you for sharing, dear. That was...special.

455 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:48:18am

Morning Lizards.

A very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you and yours.

It breaks my heart this morn to learn that the Obamesiah has spent valuable time on law enforcement matters. Plus, speculation is now seen that he will move to legalize pot. Meanwhile, the Roosians are...laughing in the snow.

456 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:48:28am

Well the Dow and the S&P are actually up slightly in light early trading.

After 4 days of drops some folks are picking up a few bargains plus some short sellers are getting out of their short positions for he Holiday so they can relax.

457 uncc_compman  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:49:10am

re: #415 Ford_Prefect

I have to post this one more time before the Christmas season ends.

Achmed The Dead Terrorist Christmas Carols

My christmas wish is for all terrorists to have the same problem as poor Achmed, premature detonation, while in their terrorist training camps.

458 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:49:33am

re: #453 apachegunner

yep, thank gawd for nobama


Obama is the wild card. If he starts trying to implement his campaign promises, he could still eff it up.

459 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:50:06am

re: #457 uncc_compman

My christmas wish is for all terrorists to have the same problem as poor Achmed, premature detonation, while in their terrorist training camps.

Amen to that.

460 uncc_compman  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:50:10am

re: #435 Throbert McGee

SILENCE!

I KEEL YOU!

461 Throbert McGee  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:50:12am

Okay, now I have an orgy of last-minute Christmas preparations to do so I've gotta shut this fucking computer OFF. (And believe me, I only say "orgy" to somehow make myself believe that the next 12 hours or so will be fun. Why do I procrastinate EVERY YEAR?!)

But anyway, if I don't see you cats before I get back from my aunt's house tomorrow night (or maybe not till the 26th), Andrew Sullivan just called me on the gay phone, telling me to wish all the Christianists a pleasant Jesus-Day, or whatever they call it.

Stay warm, lizards!

462 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:51:02am

BBIAM!

463 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:51:33am

I just looked at the weather report. If you're in Illinois and you need to do something, you might want to go now, not later, as the temperature will drop and more nastiness is coming in.

Gosh, how I love Global Warming! /

464 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:51:42am

re: #455 badbear
I kinda like the pot thingee. how much money has the nation wasted on such a insignificant thing. besides, wouldn't mind smoking a doobie legally someday.

465 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:52:12am

re: #456 3 wood

Well the Dow and the S&P are actually up slightly in light early trading.

After 4 days of drops some folks are picking up a few bargains plus some short sellers are getting out of their short positions for he Holiday so they can relax.

And oil is slightly down... $37.00 a barrel, how on earth are the Muslims going to buy their children suicide belts and bullets for Christmas if these prices continue?

466 x-wing  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:52:18am

Merry Christmas Eve everybody. I hope Santa brings you everything you asked for.

467 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:52:37am

re: #456 3 wood

its surprising 3 with the job numbers posted earlier this morning isn't it?

468 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:52:51am

re: #466 x-wing

Merry Christmas Eve everybody. I hope Santa brings you everything you asked for.

A fifty-pound box of dark chocolate? Not likely...

469 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:53:27am

re: #468 vxbush

A fifty-pound box of dark chocolate? Not likely...

ROTFLMAO...

470 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:53:48am

re: #465 doriangrey
morning dorian. heres a big splash for your vacation enjoyment

471 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:54:16am

re: #470 apachegunner

morning dorian. heres a big splash for your vacation enjoyment

Why thank you gunner... ;)

472 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:54:32am

re: #451 vxbush
YES! That's it! LOL! Thanks!

473 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:54:57am

re: #361 Alouette

x Australis

Heh. Same thing happens here when you fly from Detroit to Chicago. A travel agent was trying to explain to a really, really stupid lady how her flight from Detroit landed in Chicago (Central Time) 5 minutes before it left Detroit (Eastern Time). Finally he told her it was a time-traveling plane.

Ah.
That would have been me.

474 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:55:31am

(To the tune of Grandma got run over by a reindeer)

Chorus:
Grandma got thrown under the campaign bus
by The One on last election eve
you may say she's just typical whitey
but as for me an Oprah we believe

She helped to raise little Barry
with his single commie mom
So he ended up in college
tutored by an activist who was 'da bomb

There he met his future partner
the strong and silent type was she
She gave him his introduction to
black liberation theology

Chorus:
Grandma got thrown under the campaign bus
by The One on last election eve
you may say she's just typical whitey
but as for me an Oprah we believe

You may say it was self loathing
or political expediency
by denying his own background
he shored up his race for the presidency

Now the president elect
and his charming family
on their holiday Hawaii
have tossed dear granny's ashes in the sea

Chorus:
Grandma got thrown under the campaign bus
by The One on last election eve
you may say she's just typical whitey
but as for me an Oprah we believe

475 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:55:39am

re: #444 DeafDog

I'm not saying this to glout. My point is that my story - I'm sure - is not unique. There are many others who will also be feeling the 'freedom' of increased cash flow. The economy may snap back faster than it has felt like in the last few months.

That is very true, and that is how economics works.

Plus, as oil drops the lower price at the pump is like a major tax cut tot he consumer.

This is why I keep saying the long term problem is inflation.

All this crap about a "Great Depression" is media driven panic by some. It's been so long since we had a real recession, many people do not know what it is like. Our 20 somethings basically have known nothing but economic growth in their lives and now they are freaked out.

Right now many market technical analysts are saying they think the market bottom is about 850 on the S&P and 8100 on the Dow.

I just a few months, even flat numbers will start being compared to bad previous numbers, so the net change will look good by comparison.

Remember, about 93% of the employable population is still working, so there are a lot of jobs out there.

I had to wait 30 minutes to get my reserved table at a very nice restaurant the other night, so some people are still going out and spending money.

476 x-wing  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:56:05am

re: #468 vxbush

A fifty-pound box of dark chocolate? Not likely...

Have faith, I asked Santa for Heather Locklear,and he promised she'd be under my tree in the morning...he promised.

//

477 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:56:23am

{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* :D Glad to see you today and I'm finally coming down from my caffeine fix.

Yikes. =O

Sooo thirsty ...

478 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:56:35am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It's a freezing rain kind of morning, but roads are okay for the most part. Traffic is pretty light getting into Manhattan, but expect lots of traffic later as everyone tries heading home for Christmas tomorrow. Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates the day, and Happy Hannukah to all those who celebrate the festival of lights.

Meanwhile, Hamas is engaging in a celebration of another sort. They're busy celebrating the holiday season with a massive barrage of kassams and mortars with the intent to kill and maim Israelis. Where'd they get the stockpiles from? They built up their reserves during the hudna, and they now figure that they can go on the offensive for a while, until the next time they need a hudna.

My advice to Israel is simple. No more ceasefires. No more hudnas. No more assistance and humanitarian aid. No more power from Israel to Gaza. If Hamas wants to fire rockets and mortars at Israel it can look elsewhere for its power supplies and food and medicine. Let Egypt or the other Arab nations pick up the tab. Of course, no one else wants to do anything since everyone realize that Hamas are scum and that every attack on Israel furthers their own goals - so it works out that everyone plays along with the charade of a peace process.

479 CapeCoddah  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:56:56am

Good Morning everyone!
A cheery little story to boost the Christmas spirit:
"Christmas lights harm the planet"
[Link: www.news.com.au...]

480 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:57:23am

re: #475 3 wood

and very, very soon the MSM will begin lauding how good the economy is and the nobama effect on the turn around. nothing but "blue skys".

481 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:57:30am

re: #454 vxbush
ROFL!

482 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:57:42am

re: #467 apachegunner

its surprising 3 with the job numbers posted earlier this morning isn't it?

I think the market has pretty much already discounted in a 7.5% unemployment rate.

483 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:57:46am

re: #439 vxbush

OMG PUPPIES!

Needed a distraction...

How'd you get the one on the right to levitate?

484 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:58:00am

re: #468 vxbush

A fifty-pound box of dark chocolate? Not likely...

I think FBV intercepted it. :-)

485 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:58:08am

re: #478 lawhawk

Amen

486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:58:30am

re: #484 Ford_Prefect

I think FBV intercepted it. :-)

*erp. What?

487 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:59:19am

A Merry Christmas Eve morning to you all, from Seattle where snow is falling, guaranteeing a White Christmas.

488 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:59:40am

re: #480 apachegunner

and very, very soon the MSM will begin lauding how good the economy is and the nobama effect on the turn around. nothing but "blue skys".

I have been saying for weeks that on January 21st the MSM will start talking about how rosy the economy actually is, and everything will be perfect if we just nationalize health care.

489 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 6:59:57am

re: #486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
vegetarians don't eat choclate do they?

490 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:00:26am

re: #487 jcm
seattle. i'm sorry.

491 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:00:32am

re: #479 CapeCoddah

Dr Platt added: "For a zero-emission Christmas light show, you may consider using solar powered lights or sourcing your electricity from verified green power suppliers."

hah! Yeah I am going to jump right on that.

Morning Cape.

492 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:00:37am

How to bankrupt Iran.

493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:00:54am

re: #489 apachegunner

vegetarians don't eat choclate do they?

Only the chocolate that doesn't come from brown cows?

(Oooold Art Linkletter joke there)

494 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:01:05am

re: #488 3 wood
i know, i got it from you :>)

495 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:01:15am

re: #486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

*erp. What?

*passes a wash clothe.

496 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:01:20am

re: #438 apachegunner

so a snoblower won't work huh?

Not on slush, no.

497 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:01:46am

re: #490 apachegunner

seattle. i'm sorry.

Don't be... most of the misery around here is self inflicted.

498 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:02:15am

re: #464 apachegunner
"wouldn't mind smoking a doobie legally someday."
LOL! Well go to NYC - the worst that'll happen to you if you're "caught" with an ounce or less is a violation and a $100 fine - a violation isn't even a crime! (that is, it's not a felony nor a misdemeanor; violation is like not having your car inspected by the appropriate date, only not so severe! LOL!

499 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:02:21am

re: #497 jcm
yes, starting with the governer

500 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:02:39am

re: #475 3 wood

That is very true, and that is how economics works.

Plus, as oil drops the lower price at the pump is like a major tax cut tot he consumer.

This is why I keep saying the long term problem is inflation.

All this crap about a "Great Depression" is media driven panic by some. It's been so long since we had a real recession, many people do not know what it is like. Our 20 somethings basically have known nothing but economic growth in their lives and now they are freaked out.

Right now many market technical analysts are saying they think the market bottom is about 850 on the S&P and 8100 on the Dow.

I just a few months, even flat numbers will start being compared to bad previous numbers, so the net change will look good by comparison.

Remember, about 93% of the employable population is still working, so there are a lot of jobs out there.

I had to wait 30 minutes to get my reserved table at a very nice restaurant the other night, so some people are still going out and spending money.

Hope you are right buddy.

Yes we have seen nothing but growth in many many years. We have also never before in history seen the government give away so much of the store to failing businesses before. Somebody has to pay for this.

501 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:02:56am

Good morning Lizards! Last day of work in 2008 for me. I finally decided to take some of the vacation I've been accruing.

I hope the family still lives at the same address.

502 CapeCoddah  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:03:06am

re: #491 Ford_Prefect

Morning Ford! Gee, you don't sound concerned, does this mean you don't CARE about our planet? Shame on you!
/

503 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:03:09am

re: #466 x-wing
Thank you and the same back atcha!

504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:03:11am

re: #492 NYCHardhat

"After dipping as low as $36.63, light, sweet crude"

When it's that cheap, I don't mind calling oil a "Light, sweet crude".

Wont repeat what I was calling it in August.

505 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:03:51am

re: #498 realwest
I had a cop in DC looking over my shoulder as I rolled one in Georgetown in my Triumph with the top down. He said, be careful with that stuff pal. this was 1974.

506 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:04:13am

re: #492 NYCHardhat

How to bankrupt Iran.

/Light, sweet, and crude - just the way I like my women

507 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:04:19am

re: #464 apachegunner

I kinda like the pot thingee. how much money has the nation wasted on such a insignificant thing. besides, wouldn't mind smoking a doobie legally someday.

not enough obviously...they say there are still a coupla plant in Tennessee...and rumors abound...lock and load DEA!...there's a war to win!

508 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:04:32am

re: #487 jcm

A Merry Christmas Eve morning to you all, from Seattle where snow is falling, guaranteeing a White Christmas.

I want to visit there. I always was into the music scene.

509 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:04:44am

re: #478 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It's a freezing rain kind of morning, but roads are okay for the most part. Traffic is pretty light getting into Manhattan, but expect lots of traffic later as everyone tries heading home for Christmas tomorrow. Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates the day, and Happy Hannukah to all those who celebrate the festival of lights.

Meanwhile, Hamas is engaging in a celebration of another sort. They're busy celebrating the holiday season with a massive barrage of kassams and mortars with the intent to kill and maim Israelis. Where'd they get the stockpiles from? They built up their reserves during the hudna, and they now figure that they can go on the offensive for a while, until the next time they need a hudna.

My advice to Israel is simple. No more ceasefires. No more hudnas. No more assistance and humanitarian aid. No more power from Israel to Gaza. If Hamas wants to fire rockets and mortars at Israel it can look elsewhere for its power supplies and food and medicine. Let Egypt or the other Arab nations pick up the tab. Of course, no one else wants to do anything since everyone realize that Hamas are scum and that every attack on Israel furthers their own goals - so it works out that everyone plays along with the charade of a peace process.

And Israel should take over all border crossings, searching everything for explosives and weapons. If anything is found, it, the truck it is in, and everything else in the truck, is blown up.
Same for all boats heading to Gaza. If there is anything of military use, the people on the boat are taken into custody, and the boat sunk.

If cash is being transferred, it gets taken and put into a fund for victims of terrorism from Gaza.

510 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:04:52am

re: #465 doriangrey

And oil is slightly down... $37.00 a barrel, how on earth are the Muslims going to buy their children suicide belts and bullets for Christmas if these prices continue?

I'm crying my eyes out for them.

One side effect of this loer price is you can forget about there being much money spent now on alternate sources of fuel for a while.

The numbers just do not work now for that to happen, oil is so cheap.

511 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:05:11am

re: #506 Creeping Eruption
good. good.

512 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:05:18am

re: #504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"After dipping as low as $36.63, light, sweet crude"

When it's that cheap, I don't mind calling oil a "Light, sweet crude".

Wont repeat what I was calling it in August.

Was it "Fucking Oil"

513 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:05:19am

re: #499 apachegunner

yes, starting with the governer

I posted this last night. Ever entertaining.

Union sues Gregoire: Bad faith

To do it, she undid the pay raises she had negotiated with the state employees' union as well as the teachers' union.

That didn't sit well with the folks who had been horse trading all summer to come up with new contracts for the upcoming biennium.

On Tuesday the state employee union filed a lawsuit against Gregoire.

Bought votes just don't stay bought like they used to.

514 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:05:39am

re: #511 apachegunner

Glad you approve.

515 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:05:46am

re: #506 Creeping Eruption

/Light, sweet, and crude - just the way I like my women

I like my women like my coffee

516 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:05:50am
517 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:05:52am

re: #510 3 wood

And until we have another punch in the mouth, they guys who can deflect the blow will do nothing about it.

518 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:06:11am

Sounds like a great time to top off the strategic oil reserve.

519 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:06:13am

re: #465 doriangrey

And oil is slightly down... $37.00 a barrel, how on earth are the Muslims going to buy their children suicide belts and bullets for Christmas if these prices continue?

The oil price decline is hard to interpret, IMO. Oil is priced in the futures market. The February 09 contract is down to $37 range, but out months are still higher:

Feb 2009 is at 37.65
Mar 2009 is at 42.03
May 2009 is at 45.30
Aug 2009 is at 48.46
Dec 2009 is at 51.90
Apr 2010 is at 54.73
Sep 2010 is at 57.73
Mar 2011 is at 60.38
Sep 2011 is at 62.21

So the markets are predicting a 75% increase in oil over the next few years. Kinda sucks, but it still beats where we were last year at this time.

520 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:06:38am

re: #515 NYCHardhat

I like my women like my coffee

Thick, strong and bitter?

521 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:07:03am

re: #510 3 wood

I'm crying my eyes out for them.

One side effect of this loer price is you can forget about there being much money spent now on alternate sources of fuel for a while.

The numbers just do not work now for that to happen, oil is so cheap.


and you can bet this administration will tax it heavily to return the prices back to the 4 dollar level. good for the enviorment ya know?

522 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:07:13am

re: #520 Creeping Eruption

Thick, strong and bitter?

Close. Bitter and murky

523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:07:14am

re: #520 Creeping Eruption

Thick, strong and bitter?

with a spoon in 'em?

524 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:07:38am

re: #508 NYCHardhat

I want to visit there. I always was into the music scene.

Beautiful town, in a spectacular setting.
Large infestation of moonbats.

525 yochanan  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:07:40am

re: #515 NYCHardhat

you put sugar and cream on your women might have to ask what kind of cream?

me bad

526 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:07:43am

re: #523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

with a spoon in 'em?

arrgh!

527 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:07:51am

In case I don't get a chance later, all the best of the season to my Christian lizard friends.
I wish Xians who like Israel a Merry Xmas
I wish Xians who like Israel a Merry Xmas
I wish Xians who like Israel a Merry Xmas
And a Happy New Year.

528 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:07:51am

re: #513 jcm
wish they could jail her ass

529 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:08:13am

re: #468 vxbush
Maybe two 25 lb boxes?!?

530 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:08:29am

re: #524 jcm

Beautiful town, in a spectacular setting.
Large infestation of moonbats.

I figured that. Any town with a music scene like that is crawling with nutbars.

531 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:08:45am

re: #525 yochanan

you put sugar and cream on your women might have to ask what kind of cream?

me bad

Yes you are.

532 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:09:07am

re: #469 doriangrey
Good morning dorian - how are ya doing this Christmas Eve morning?

533 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:09:07am

re: #500 Harry Tuttle

Somebody has to pay for this.

We will in higher inflation and our kids will in higher taxes.

We have sold out not only our own futures but those of our children as well.

The inflation will rob purchasing power, especially those on fixed incomes.

Are you familiar with the multiplier theory in Macroeconomics? Basically, it means that when the banks start lending out all these hundreds of billions they are sitting on until the end of the year financial reports are run, the money supply will expand by an approximate factor of 10 times that amount.

There is not enough productivity in the economy to absorb that much money with goods/services, so you will have lots of dollars chasing fewer goods, thus high inflation.

534 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:09:56am

Good Morning Lizards! It's still doing it's thing all over Chicagoland.

There is alot going on around my house, so if I disappear, Have a Wonderful Day!

How areyou-all this morning and what are we talking about?

535 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:10:09am

re: #473 reine.de.tout
ROFL! Good morning reine, how are you doing this morning?

536 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:10:21am

re: #530 NYCHardhat

I figured that. Any town with a music scene like that is crawling with nutbars.

The music scene isn't my gig, so to speak. I kinda figure musicians to be a little moonbattish. It's the truly insane pols, and everyday folks who keep electing them.

537 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:10:35am

re: #528 apachegunner

wish they could jail her ass

What would you do with the rest of her? Or do I not want to know?

538 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:10:47am

re: #533 3 wood

We will in higher inflation and our kids will in higher taxes.

We have sold out not only our own futures but those of our children as well.

The inflation will rob purchasing power, especially those on fixed incomes.

Are you familiar with the multiplier theory in Macroeconomics? Basically, it means that when the banks start lending out all these hundreds of billions they are sitting on until the end of the year financial reports are run, the money supply will expand by an approximate factor of 10 times that amount.

There is not enough productivity in the economy to absorb that much money with goods/services, so you will have lots of dollars chasing fewer goods, thus high inflation.

A global ponzi scheme?

539 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:10:49am

re: #533 3 wood

We will in higher inflation and our kids will in higher taxes.

We have sold out not only our own futures but those of our children as well.

The inflation will rob purchasing power, especially those on fixed incomes.

Are you familiar with the multiplier theory in Macroeconomics? Basically, it means that when the banks start lending out all these hundreds of billions they are sitting on until the end of the year financial reports are run, the money supply will expand by an approximate factor of 10 times that amount.

There is not enough productivity in the economy to absorb that much money with goods/services, so you will have lots of dollars chasing fewer goods, thus high inflation.


Fuck it. Spend it now.

540 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:11:04am

It's Winter.

541 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:12:02am

re: #528 apachegunner

wish they could jail her ass

What did her donkey do to deserve jail?

542 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:12:10am

Santa is flying over the great wall of China.

543 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:12:33am
544 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:12:48am

re: #542 Ford_Prefect

Santa is flying over the great wall of China.

But he's only delivering coal to the G-dless communists who run the country.

545 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:12:52am

re: #477 {Miss Trixie} Good morning gorgeous! *smoooches* to you - and what do you mean you're coming down from your caffine fix? I just starting to climb for altitude here! LOL!

546 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:12:52am

re: #540 Sharmuta

It's Winter.

Its Winter Time

547 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:12:55am

re: #513 jcm

Bought votes just don't stay bought like they used to.

I'm not a union guy by any means, but if she agreed to those terms in a contract, they have a good point and will win

You can't just unilaterally change a contract. They have the right to negotiate wages and working conditions and bargain the impact of any changes.

548 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:13:46am

re: #535 realwest

ROFL! Good morning reine, how are you doing this morning?


Hey RW! You followed me in! How ya' doin'?

549 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:13:57am

re: #15 rawmuse

A Map of the world I like.

Pussies, evil doers, and communists. Pretty much sums it up . LOL~!

550 sattv4u2  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:14:00am

re: #539 NYCHardhat

Fuck it. Spend it now.

Donn't laugh. Thats what i'm doing now. I'm closing on another piece of property early next week and I just ordered a 2009 GM Hybrid SUV as well as having the kitchen counter topd granited (is that a word!?!). Between Christmas and New Years, wifey and I are checking out a few more 'luxury" items

551 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:14:14am

re: #544 Kosh's Shadow

But he's only delivering coal to the G-dless communists who run the country.

Only if they have been naughty G-dless communists. //

552 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:14:56am

re: #478 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk - Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah to you, too.
And as for

If Hamas wants to fire rockets and mortars at Israel it can look elsewhere for its power supplies and food and medicine. Let Egypt or the other Arab nations pick up the tab.


All I can say is AMEN!

553 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:15:13am

re: #532 realwest

Good morning dorian - how are ya doing this Christmas Eve morning?

Doing great real, doing great... Got a cup of coffee with a snort of Baileys in it and nothing to do but yak it up here at LGF... Life is good... ;)

554 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:15:14am

re: #519 DeafDog

So the markets are predicting a 75% increase in oil over the next few years. Kinda sucks, but it still beats where we were last year at this time.

That is really prediciting the economy turning around and growing around August.

555 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:15:40am

re: #533 3 wood

We will in higher inflation and our kids will in higher taxes.

We have sold out not only our own futures but those of our children as well.

The inflation will rob purchasing power, especially those on fixed incomes.

Are you familiar with the multiplier theory in Macroeconomics? Basically, it means that when the banks start lending out all these hundreds of billions they are sitting on until the end of the year financial reports are run, the money supply will expand by an approximate factor of 10 times that amount.

There is not enough productivity in the economy to absorb that much money with goods/services, so you will have lots of dollars chasing fewer goods, thus high inflation.

Well no I am certainly no kind of economic genius and do appreciate your insights.

But the basics are still pretty basic and you say, a loss of purchasing power will be felt by all.

Say what's you opinion on refinancing now? Our bank is talking to us about what seems to be a pretty good plan to refi our mortgage down a few points and to add in some credit card dept and on top of that to reduce the length of the loan from a 20 to a 15.

Is this a good time to be doing this?

It sounds like a sensible thing, if I can keep my job that is.

556 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:15:42am
557 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:16:15am

Hey Trixie! How's the Little Miss? and how's you?

558 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:16:23am

re: #552 realwest

Good morning lawhawk - Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah to you, too.
And as for


All I can say is AMEN!

Agreed and agreed again... ;)

559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:16:34am

re: #540 Sharmuta

It's Winter.

I like Tori. She's whiter than I am.

You look especially "Smurfy" this Christmas Eve morning.

560 Lincolntf  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:16:41am

I read in the paper that the Franken/Coleman race won't be decided until Jan. 5th or 6th as they wangle over "double votes", etc.
I hereby propose a National Drop Dead Law. Set a time limit for all Fed. elections. Make it 3 days or even 10 days if you must. I hate getting the Feds overly involved, but make them responsible for some sort of conclusion if the State doesn't meet the deadline. The more time (fix early voting, too) that "votes" are out there being cast, moved, counted, sorted, run through machines, whatever, the more WILL go wrong. The current situation is a joke.

561 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:16:48am

re: #528 apachegunner

wish they could jail her ass

Being a foster parent I deal extensively with DSHS. That agency is a mess. At one point the agencies budge was increasing but service to foster kids being cut. DSHS belongs to the executive branch, the total budget is set by the legislature. But stuff like that is executive branch.

I wrote a letter to Gregoire's office asking why raises and hirings were in the mid-level management while service to the children were being cut.

Her response?
Not my fault, talk to legislature.

Gregoire has pass the buck down.

562 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:17:42am

re: #487 jcm
Good morning to you jcm - jeez, it's STILL snowing in Seattle? Too bad you've got to suffer the punishment being meted out to moonbat central (Northern Division)!
Hope you're well today and the Mrs and the kids, all of 'em!

563 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:17:54am

re: #545 realwest

Good morning gorgeous! *smoooches* to you - and what do you mean you're coming down from your caffine fix? I just starting to climb for altitude here! LOL!

LOL! I you haven't already, see my #311 and #320 etc., etc., etc. :D

564 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:18:03am

Happy Christmas Eve day everyone. Everybody ready?

565 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:18:07am

re: #543 Iron Fist

Damn! That's damn near enough of a difference for me to want to Re-fi. And I just finished refying in August. If interest rates go much lower, they'll be paying you interest, points, or something like that to make it worth your time.

That also is a good tip for any unemployed Lizards out there, look for work in the mortgage/refinance area. They are going to see a boom.

566 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:18:09am

Hey lawhawk, you here?

Thanks for fixing my karma in the Spin-off's the the other day.

567 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:18:19am

re: #556 buzzsawmonkey

Little Mahmoud can't afford to blow himself up.

Yes, sad but true. All little Mahmoud ever wanted, since he first attended his Hamas preschool, was to be a shaheed like his two older brothers. He, too, wanted to end his young life in a glorious orange ball of nail-studded flames, wiping out unsuspecting Jews as they went about their daily marketing.

But little Mahmoud's dream may never come true. The recent drop in oil prices has stanched the flow of petrodollars to Hamas and other terrorist groups, while the costs of bomb belts, C-4, detonators, and other essentials continues to rise. Without your assistance, little Mahmoud may be forced to set aside his dreams, learn a trade, and become a productive human being.

You can help by helping to keep demand for oil high. Take long car trips. Fly as often as you can. Convert your home to oil heat. If you don't have an SUV yet, buy one--and urge your neighbors to buy one, too. Every drop of oil you buy will help bring little Mahmoud's dream closer to achievement.

This ad is paid for by Holy Land Foundation.

Sigh...Er is that swoon? you are a true artist my friend... A true artist... ;)

568 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:18:26am

HAHAHAHAHA

569 sjm_888  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:18:35am

Not a frequent poster but a avid daily reader of LGF.
Happy Holidays to all lizards!

570 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:19:13am

Howabout a little George Winston. Calm, nice George Winston.

571 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:19:23am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Merry Christmas!

Happy Hanukkah!

572 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:20:01am

re: #568 NYCHardhat

HAHAHAHAHA

I'm beginning to understand what my conservative parents felt when Kennedy was elected.

573 sattv4u2  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:20:06am

re: #555 Harry Tuttle

Is this a good time to be doing this?

Depends on several factors. Is the credit debt you're thinking of rolling into the new mortgage "manageable'. What I mean is, can you pay off you entire balance of CC's monthly, or are you getting hit with carryover finance charges

ALSO, your "new" mortgage at the lower rate/ years. Is it substantially more than your principle and interest now? If so, can you manage it without cutting out lots of "lifestyle" expenses (i.e. will you have to start eating nothing but beans and rice, forgoe vacations, never go to movies/ dinner, for the next 15 years?)

574 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:20:26am

re: #547 3 wood

I'm not a union guy by any means, but if she agreed to those terms in a contract, they have a good point and will win

You can't just unilaterally change a contract. They have the right to negotiate wages and working conditions and bargain the impact of any changes.

I would hope with a $6.2B deficit, which by the way magically appeared AFTER the election, emergency clauses are in place.

Fine, put in the raises, WA State could use a few thousand less state workers.

Maybe the state going bankrupt and a recall election would be a good thing.

What ever it takes to take a clue by four up against the heads in Olympia.

575 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:20:26am

re: #569 sjm_888

You can skip over Sharmuta's comments though. She's a drunk.

576 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:20:26am

re: #492 NYCHardhat
Yep, but I understand that OPEC has been getting financial advice from Bernie Madoff so they'll be ok!
GREAT time of year for the price of oil to be so low - not just for gasoline but for home heating oil as well.

577 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:20:35am

re: #571 loppyd

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Merry Christmas!

Happy Hanukkah!

Likewise

578 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:20:46am
579 x-wing  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:20:54am

I love this Christmas song.

Almost cry everytime I hear it.

Youtube Video
580 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:20:59am

bbiab

581 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:21:03am

re: #559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I like Tori. She's whiter than I am.

You look especially "Smurfy" this Christmas Eve morning.

Thanks, Hon. I like Tori, too. I hope you have a smurfy, [bleep]ing Christmas.

582 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:21:17am

re: #570 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Howabout a little George Winston. Calm, nice George Winston.

Did I just step into an elevator?

583 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:21:43am

So of course the municipal snowploughs come down the street in the middle of the night and create a 3 foot high snowbank across the bottom of the driveway.
And of course there's no sign of my private driveway snowploughing service guy by the time we need to get the vehicles out of the driveway.
So of course I have to haul my ass out and manually shovel out all this damn snow so we can get out of the effing driveway.
So of course just as I'm finishing the job the guy shows up all bright-eyed and waves hello to me as I'm staggering back into the house.
So of course now my back hurts.
I love Canadian winters.

584 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:21:52am

re: #562 realwest

Good morning to you jcm - jeez, it's STILL snowing in Seattle? Too bad you've got to suffer the punishment being meted out to moonbat central (Northern Division)!
Hope you're well today and the Mrs and the kids, all of 'em!

We're toasty and stocked up... except for milk, those boys go through that stuff.

If I have I can walk a block to a 7-11 a buy an over priced gallon.

585 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:21:56am

re: #572 ggt

I'm beginning to understand what my conservative parents felt when Kennedy was elected.

I beginning to turn into this guy.

586 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:21:58am

re: #555 Harry Tuttle

Say what's you opinion on refinancing now? Our bank is talking to us about what seems to be a pretty good plan to refi our mortgage down a few points and to add in some credit card dept and on top of that to reduce the length of the loan from a 20 to a 15.

Is this a good time to be doing this?

It sounds like a sensible thing, if I can keep my job that is.

Refinancing is a no brainer if it lowers your cost of capital. I think you will see a boom in this in the new year as banks start loosening the strings on their cash and looking to make a profit in 2009.

I'd refi the credit card debt too, and then do not add any back on your cards.

Reducing the duration is your call.

But I'd also call around and look for some deals. I think banks will be knocking themselves out to get this business nthe new year.

587 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:22:23am

re: #576 realwest

Yep, but I understand that OPEC has been getting financial advice from Bernie Madoff so they'll be ok!
GREAT time of year for the price of oil to be so low - not just for gasoline but for home heating oil as well.

I'm lovin' it.

588 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:22:41am

re: #569 sjm_888

Not a frequent poster but a avid daily reader of LGF.
Happy Holidays to all lizards!

Thanks, and same to you and yours. And feel free to interject more often.

589 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:22:43am

re: #581 Sharmuta

Thanks, Hon. I like Tori, too. I hope you have a smurfy, [bleep]ing Christmas.

Heh heh heh gonna send Jokey Smurf over to FBV's place with presents? lol...lol...lol...

590 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:23:01am

re: #557 ggt

Hey Trixie! How's the Little Miss? and how's you?

Hiya, toots! We're both just fine, thanks for asking. My fridge is full, I've a little booze, plenty of firewood and the bills are paid. Christmas will be quiet and pretty-much worry-free this year.

And you and your menagerie?

591 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:23:11am

re: #568 NYCHardhat

HAHAHAHAHA

What a bunch of malarky!

It's disappointing that Obama will get credit for an economic turnaround if he does nothing, but that's the way the game works.

He can still eff-up the recovery if he follows his campaign promises.

592 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:23:13am

re: #582 DaddyG

Did I just step into an elevator?

I like Winston!

593 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:23:25am

re: #505 apachegunner
Yep. Under NYS's draconian Rockefeller Drug Laws (go to jail for 20 years for smoking or possessing a joint) cops HATED that law - gave 'em easy arrests, but it kept them buried in paperwork instead of being out dealing with crime, specifically violence against individuals type crime.

594 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:23:42am

It's starting to snow(again)so I'll have to get busy!
All I want for Christmas is for Marcus in Cali..to call me to tell me he will sell me back my very first car!
A 1941 Chevrolet 2 door sedan I sold his father in 1976!
I want it back so bad my hair hurts!
It's sitting in his back yard with 4 flat tires and bird poop on it!
My wish for all Lizards is a safe and happy Christmas with loved ones and friend!
And that we recieve what we need and not what we deserve! LOL
A great new year and a prayer that the "O" will not screw anything up...I'm not optomistic!

595 sattv4u2  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:23:53am

re: #575 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You can skip over Sharmuta's comments though. She's a drunk.

You say that like it's a bad thing!

596 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:24:13am

re: #572 ggt

I'm beginning to understand what my conservative parents felt when Kennedy was elected.

Kennedy is the most over-rated prez. Obama will rival in over-ratedness.

597 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:24:26am

re: #591 DeafDog

What a bunch of malarky!

It's disappointing that Obama will get credit for an economic turnaround if he does nothing, but that's the way the game works.

He can still eff-up the recovery if he follows his campaign promises.

Recovery? Ha! JP Morgan won't report where their bailout money is going to. This was a robbery of epic proportions.

598 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:24:29am

Hey, Bastard:

Tori Amos and her Rendition of REM's Losing My Religion

[finger]

599 CapeCoddah  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:25:06am

re: #598 Sharmuta

LOL

600 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:25:22am

Dow is up 38, the S&P is up 3

601 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:26:06am

re: #600 3 wood

Dow is up 38, the S&P is up 3

Happy days are here again.

/

602 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:27:15am

re: #527 Spare O'Lake

In case I don't get a chance later, all the best of the season to my Christian lizard friends.
I wish Xians who like Israel a Merry Xmas
I wish Xians who like Israel a Merry Xmas
I wish Xians who like Israel a Merry Xmas
And a Happy New Year.

In the same spirti, and under the assumption that just about all Israelis will at least give lip service to liking the USA, I wish Israels who like George Bush a happy Hanukkah.

603 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:27:19am

re: #516 buzzsawmonkey

What will the angry leftist artists do after January 20, when they don't have George Bush as a focal point for all their hate?

They'll be agitating for him to be prosecuted for murder & war crimes, and complaining about how the Obama Administration is in cahoots with Bushco for letting him get away.

604 rawmuse  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:27:52am

Good morning, Lizards! Some one just sent me the worst version of "Sleigh Ride" by Leroy Anderson I have ever heard. I can't get off the floor, I am laughing so hard. They are butchering it pretty good.

605 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:27:53am

Not all of us are Massholes.

Salvation Army kettles overflow


Stunned and relieved Salvation Army officers say cash-strapped Bay Staters have come through, stuffing the red kettles with dollars, coins and checks beyond their yuletide dreams despite the nation’s growing economic crisis . . . and maybe even because of it.

“Our prayers have been answered,” said Maj. William Bode, Divisional Commander of The Salvation Army’s Massachusetts Division. “The economic crisis has hit so many people hard, and to see this outpouring of generosity by local residents, businesses and other community organizations in this time of great need is truly a miracle.”

As of Friday, the Salvation Army was on track to surpass its $3.5 million fund-raising goal, a $400,000 increase over last year that is largely due to collections by intrepid cold-weather bell ringers in the annual red kettles program.

606 Harry Tuttle  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:28:01am

re: #586 3 wood

Refinancing is a no brainer if it lowers your cost of capital. I think you will see a boom in this in the new year as banks start loosening the strings on their cash and looking to make a profit in 2009.

I'd refi the credit card debt too, and then do not add any back on your cards.

Reducing the duration is your call.

But I'd also call around and look for some deals. I think banks will be knocking themselves out to get this business nthe new year.

Thanks guys, yes it does seem like a no brainer and an oppurtunity. I'm just worried about the future but what else is new right.

Well merry xmas dudes and dudettes!

607 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:28:13am

Something Christmasy for the Eve.

608 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:28:37am

Hi Lizard Nation!
Are ye all ready for tomorrow?

Here is a very wicked cartoon!

Enlarge it, so you can see what the button on the figure on the right says ...

:-)))

609 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:29:21am

re: #600 3 wood

Dow is up 38, the S&P is up 3

Lately the mere mention of the words "Dow" and "S&P" give me flu-like symptoms.

610 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:29:50am

re: #601 loppyd

Happy days are here again.

LIBOR is dropping, which if I recall is significant to your other half.

Have you been watching the Yankees spending money like drunken sailors on shore leave?

611 least  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:29:55am
Creation
by Kenneth Patchen

Most of the time, the quotes and such on overnight threads have some sort of meaning.
But. I . do. not. get. this'n.
At all.
Who blowed up the owl?

612 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:29:56am

re: #607 jcm

Something Christmasy for the Eve.

Good Morning!

I thought of you yesterday - Howie Carr was saying that Seattle doesn't salt the roads and that the plows have rubber blades. Brilliant.

613 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:29:58am
614 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:30:00am

re: #510 3 wood
Hey my friend - I think we can all trust Obama to squander a trillion bucks or so on bullshit Alternative Energy sources (meaning, non-nuclear) regardless of the price of oil) which - although when done under government auspices will cost about 5 times as much - isn't really such a terrible thing.
Regardless of the relatively cheap oil prices now, we still need to be energy independent and that means working hard on alternative sources - and especially nuclear and Solar which are proven alternative energy sources. Unfortunately Obama doesn't like nuclear power, cause he can't find a place to dispose of the waste - although I've heard that since Dingy Harry Reid said NO to some little bitty place in Nevada, Obama may look to the wilds of Alaska!

615 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:30:44am

re: #606 Harry Tuttle

Thanks guys, yes it does seem like a no brainer and an oppurtunity. I'm just worried about the future but what else is new right.

You can't control your employment situation, but you can take advantage of the lower rates.

616 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:30:56am

re: #604 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards! Some one just sent me the worst version of "Sleigh Ride" by Leroy Anderson I have ever heard. I can't get off the floor, I am laughing so hard. They are butchering it pretty good.

Reminds me; I'm surprised no one made a slasher movie called "Slay Ride". Maybe we are lucky after all.
(But if anyone does make one now, I want my cut! Off the gross. Which, for a movie like this...)

617 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:31:03am

re: #605 loppyd

Always nice to hear such good news. This is my biggest problem with the cradle to grave government types. They don't trust the American people to do the right thing. Give us the chance and we will come through as we always have.

And a Merry Christmas Loppy.

618 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:31:44am
619 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:31:48am

Of course, that was not Tori's best known cover.

620 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:32:01am

re: #610 3 wood

LIBOR is dropping, which if I recall is significant to your other half.

Have you been watching the Yankees spending money like drunken sailors on shore leave?

Very significant indeed. Although trying to convince anyone to refi right now is like banging your head against the wall.

I said this yesterday and I'll say it again.

The Red Sox will still have a better record. You can't buy heart.

621 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:32:13am

re: #612 loppyd

Good Morning!

I thought of you yesterday - Howie Carr was saying that Seattle doesn't salt the roads and that the plows have rubber blades. Brilliant.

Yep, I don't mind the no salt that much, saves my vehicles. The rubber blades? Saves the roads. Biggest factor is the local drivers who can barely drive in the rain and in snow are hopeless. They actually believe the Subaru commercials!

622 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:32:17am

re: #566 ggt

You're welcome, although I didn't realize your karma was broken.

623 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:32:21am

re: #597 NYCHardhat

Recovery? Ha! JP Morgan won't report where their bailout money is going to. This was a robbery of epic proportions.

We debated this a few days ago, but, IMO, there is no need for JP Morgan to report where they are spending that money.

The govt gave JP Morgan a $10B loan at 5% loan for 5 years. At the end of 5 years, the rate goes to 9%. Stupid, but those were the terms. Adding a stipulation for JP morgan to track that money separately, would just be adding a second stupid thing on top of the first stupid thing.

624 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:32:27am

re: #598 Sharmuta

Hey, Bastard:

Tori Amos and her Rendition of REM's Losing My Religion

[finger]

Careful, now.

625 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:32:31am

re: #618 buzzsawmonkey

No down ding but...that was bad!LOL

626 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:32:41am

re: #614 realwest

Hey my friend - I think we can all trust Obama to squander a trillion bucks or so on bullshit Alternative Energy sources (meaning, non-nuclear) regardless of the price of oil)

And strangely enough I think that might actually be a good thing... Oh... I think I just scared myself... ;O

627 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:33:19am

re: #516 buzzsawmonkey

What will the angry leftist artists do after January 20, when they don't have George Bush as a focal point for all their hate?

re: #603 Who Watches the Watchmen?

They'll be agitating for him to be prosecuted for murder & war crimes, and complaining about how the Obama Administration is in cahoots with Bushco for letting him get away.

Aww - the angry leftist artists will go on using Bush as focal point for their hate until at least 2012, and until 2016 if B0 wins a second term.
How do I know?
All angry lefties here in the UK, not just the artists, still hate Maggie and blame her for everything!

628 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:33:35am

re: #623 DeafDog

We debated this a few days ago, but, IMO, there is no need for JP Morgan to report where they are spending that money.

The govt gave JP Morgan a $10B loan at 5% loan for 5 years. At the end of 5 years, the rate goes to 9%. Stupid, but those were the terms. Adding a stipulation for JP morgan to track that money separately, would just be adding a second stupid thing on top of the first stupid thing.


I just see the money going into the pockets of executives.

629 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:33:49am

re: #534 ggt Hey ggt! A Merry Christmas Eve morning to you - or Happy Hannukah, whichever or both!

630 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:33:56am

re: #621 jcm

Yep, I don't mind the no salt that much, saves my vehicles. The rubber blades? Saves the roads. Biggest factor is the local drivers who can barely drive in the rain and in snow are hopeless. They actually believe the Subaru commercials!

Today, in Mass, I was wondering why there was a line of slush down the middle of the lane. Then I caught up with a plow, off to the left, with his blade set too straight, pushing the slush into the middle of the lane.
Your tax dollars at work.

631 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:33:56am

re: #617 Ford_Prefect

Always nice to hear such good news. This is my biggest problem with the cradle to grave government types. They don't trust the American people to do the right thing. Give us the chance and we will come through as we always have.

And a Merry Christmas Loppy.

Same for you and yours!

632 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:34:59am

Now this is a Christmas Carol!

(listen to all of it - but at least get to 1:10)

633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:35:08am

re: #625 reloadingisnotahobby

There are no half dings.

634 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:35:11am

re: #630 Kosh's Shadow

Today, in Mass, I was wondering why there was a line of slush down the middle of the lane. Then I caught up with a plow, off to the left, with his blade set too straight, pushing the slush into the middle of the lane.
Your tax dollars at work.

Not MY tax dollars... Mine buy the govanator $5000.00 Cuban cigars... ;p

635 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:35:12am
636 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:35:23am

re: #630 Kosh's Shadow

Today, in Mass, I was wondering why there was a line of slush down the middle of the lane. Then I caught up with a plow, off to the left, with his blade set too straight, pushing the slush into the middle of the lane.
Your tax dollars at work.

Dont. Get. Me. Started.

637 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:35:55am
638 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:36:18am

re: #627 yma o hyd

re: #516 buzzsawmonkey

What will the angry leftist artists do after January 20, when they don't have George Bush as a focal point for all their hate?


Aww - the angry leftist artists will go on using Bush as focal point for their hate until at least 2012, and until 2016 if B0 wins a second term.
How do I know?
All angry lefties here in the UK, not just the artists, still hate Maggie and blame her for everything!


That's the upside of projecting displaced anger... you can keep screwing up your own life and never have to take responsibility for it.

639 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:36:46am

The Dinnerjacket answers the oft pondered question "what would Jesus do?"

Iran’s Ahmadinejad: Merry Xmas, bullying powers

LONDON — Merry Christmas, "bullying, ill-tempered and expansionist powers."

Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will deliver a Christmas Day broadcast on Britain’s Channel 4 television, occupying a slot used to provide an often controversial counterpoint to Queen Elizabeth II’s traditional annual message, the station said today.

In his recorded message, Ahmadinejad offers seasonal greetings to Christians and says he believes that if Jesus were alive, he would "stand with the people in opposition to bullying, ill-tempered and expansionist powers," an apparent reference to the United States and its allies.

640 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:36:46am

re: #543 Iron Fist
Hi Bro' - Merry Christmas Eve Morning to you!
" If interest rates go much lower, they'll be paying you interest, points, or something like that to make it worth your time."
Uh, don't go making any bets on that my friend! LOL!

641 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:37:18am

re: #628 NYCHardhat

I just see the money going into the pockets of executives.

Unfortunately, for some of the bailout money recipients, that will probabaly be true...which is why the loans were stupid to start with. Some of the banks, however, will use the money wisely. And the shareholders in those banks will be handsomely rewarded.

Capitalism meets government largess.

642 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:38:05am

re: #621 jcm

Yep, I don't mind the no salt that much, saves my vehicles. The rubber blades? Saves the roads. Biggest factor is the local drivers who can barely drive in the rain and in snow are hopeless. They actually believe the Subaru commercials!

Um, I have a Subaru. But I know how to drive in the elements.

643 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:38:26am

re: #548 ggt
I'm doing ok, thanks - looks like our Global Warming will get us up to near 61 or so today!

644 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:38:29am

re: #620 loppyd

The Red Sox will still have a better record. You can't buy heart.

Couldn't agree more. Remember, they did what they did last year with an injured Lowell and Papi and a sub par year from Beckett and Varitek. Masterson and Bucholz now have another year under their belts. I think this will be a very interesting year in the American League East.

645 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:39:13am

re: #632 DaddyG

Now this is a Christmas Carol!

(listen to all of it - but at least get to 1:10)

WOW!
That's good, all the switches back and forth!

646 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:39:17am

re: #640 {realwest}

Hi Bro' - Merry Christmas Eve Morning to you!
" If interest rates go much lower, they'll be paying you interest, points, or something like that to make it worth your time."
Uh, don't go making any bets on that my friend! LOL!

Good Christmas Eve Morning to you, handsome!

Peggy the moocher would tend to disagree.

647 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:40:00am

re: #635 Iron Fist


Obama is a harmless critter right now. Let the press gush over him all they want. I know it's preaching to the choir to say this on LGF, but when Obama starts to try to implement any of his lame-brained ideas - eff him. I'll fight it tooth and nail.

648 rawmuse  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:40:04am

re: #632 DaddyG

Now this is a Christmas Carol!

(listen to all of it - but at least get to 1:10)

Great stuff! LOL!

649 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:40:26am

Happy Birthday to me...

Well, Maisey the Parrot can't sing it.

Scientists warn Christmas lights harm the planet

Here we go again...

[Link: www.news.com.au...]

650 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:40:27am

Ok lizards... I'm out. Iron Fist: Just remember,
Tool Eulogy (The song for Obama)

He had alot to say.
He had alot of nothing to say.
We'll miss him.
We'll miss him.
He had alot to say.
He had alot of nothing to say.
We'll miss him.
We're gonna miss him
We're gonna miss him
So long.
We wish you well.
You told us how you weren't afraid to die.
Well then, so long.
Don't cry.
Or feel too down.
Not all martyrs see divinity.
But at least you tried.
Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud.
We'll miss him.
We'll miss him.
Ranting and pointing his finger
At everything but his heart.
We'll miss him.
We'll miss him.
We're gonna miss him.
We're gonna miss him.
No way to recall
What it was that you had said to me,
Like I care at all.
But you were so loud.
You sure could yell.
You took a stand on every little thing
And so loud.
I'm too smart when you're invisible by the bone and the symbol on you. So he bashes his skull through the window while over looking the sea. Twilight amber ego. We were amused by this
Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud and I
Swallowed his facade cuz I'm so
Eager to identify with
Someone above the ground,
Someone who seemed to feel the same,
Someone prepared to lead the way, with
Someone who would die for me.
Will you? Will you now?
Would you die for me?
Don't you fuckin lie.
Don't you step out of line.
Don't you step out of line.
Don't you step out of line.
Don't you fuckin lie.
You've claimed all this time that you would die for me.
Why then are you so surprised when you hear your own
eulogy?
He had alot to say.
He had alot of nothing to say.
He had alot to say.
He had alot of nothing to say.
Come down.
Get off your fuckin cross.
We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.
To ascend you must die.
You must be crucified
For our sins and our lies.
Goodbye!

651 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:40:48am
652 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:40:49am

re: #632 DaddyG

Now this is a Christmas Carol!

(listen to all of it - but at least get to 1:10)

Wow - that was great!

Thank you!

653 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:41:15am

re: #561 jcm
"Gregoire has pass the buck down." Ah yes, leadership Democratic Party Style.

654 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:41:19am

re: #649 Walter L. Newton

Happy Birthday, {Walter}!

655 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:41:51am

re: #649 Walter L. Newton

Happy Birthday Walter!
Enjoy your Golden Colorado global Warming Holidays!

656 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:42:21am

re: #644 Ford_Prefect

Couldn't agree more. Remember, they did what they did last year with an injured Lowell and Papi and a sub par year from Beckett and Varitek. Masterson and Bucholz now have another year under their belts. I think this will be a very interesting year in the American League East.

Remember who they had on their roster when they lost to the Red Sox in the 2004 ALCS?

I gots to get my paws on some Sox/Yanks tickets.

657 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:42:23am

re: #651 Iron Fist

Could be worse. Try to figure out what Ronnie James Dio is really trying to get across in, say, Holy Diver. Good music, but very obscure. I get most of the biblical references, but some of the lyrics just make me scratch my head.

Ronnie is a Taoist... Yin yang thing going on in his lyrics...

658 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:42:42am

re: #637 buzzsawmonkey

Good point!
Only pity is that it makes for very boring art, after the first year or so ...

659 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:42:53am

re: #642 loppyd

Um, I have a Subaru. But I know how to drive in the elements.

LOL!
Please come to Seattle and show the rest how to!

Had to go out on Monday. At one point a Subaru tailgating me, I mean to would have been tailgating on a dry sunny summer day, on packed snow and ice. A little later some yutz in a all wheel drive Volvo was doing it. I wasn't going slow either!

660 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:43:12am

re: #649 Walter L. Newton

Happy Birthday Walter!

You share your b-day with my step-father...good company to be in.

661 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:43:53am
662 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:44:18am

re: #649 Walter L. Newton

That's what? 49?

663 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:44:22am

re: #649 Walter L. Newton

Happy B-day!

664 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:44:22am

re: #638 DaddyG

That's the upside of projecting displaced anger... you can keep screwing up your own life and never have to take responsibility for it.

Absolutely!
Its similar to sixty-five year olds still blaming their parents for everything that is wrong in their lives ... (got some in my family, sigh ...)

665 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:44:25am

re: #659 jcm

LOL!
Please come to Seattle and show the rest how to!

Had to go out on Monday. At one point a Subaru tailgating me, I mean to would have been tailgating on a dry sunny summer day, on packed snow and ice. A little later some yutz in a all wheel drive Volvo was doing it. I wasn't going slow either!

What these fools don't realize is that AWD and 4WD doesn't mean magic brakes.

LOL

666 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:44:35am

Hey Walter. Happy Birthday. What kind of cake you gonna have?

667 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:44:54am

re: #656 loppyd

Remember who they had on their roster when they lost to the Red Sox in the 2004 ALCS?

I gots to get my paws on some Sox/Yanks tickets.

They spent 433 million dollars on three players. Long term, they are just burying themselves. Not that they won't just buy themselves out of it again...

668 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:44:59am

re: #653 realwest

"Gregoire has pass the buck down." Ah yes, leadership Democratic Party Style.

The classic one was a State AG her office missed a filing date, that cost the state $35 million, she fired a staff attorney to show she was making changes. Staff attorney sued for wrongful firing and won. Another $6 mill.

669 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:45:24am

re: #661 buzzsawmonkey

That's fancy.

670 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:45:32am

re: #649 Walter L. Newton

Happy birthday Walter!

I pray you have a prosperous year.

671 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:45:39am

re: #563 Miss Trixie
ROFL! No gorgeous I hadn't seen those posts! LOL!
I'm sure everyone out here appreciated them, too!

672 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:45:50am

re: #666 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Walter. Happy Birthday. What kind of cake you gonna have?

Yea , Walter...What's her name?;-)

673 loppyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:46:10am

It's dead here and the mail has already come so my work here is done.

Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah to one and all.

Mmmmwaaah!

674 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:46:40am

re: #569 sjm_888
Hey, Happy Holidays to you, too! Wish you could post more often - it's nice to "hear" newer voices round here sometimes!

675 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:46:47am

happy birthday amigo...and many more as well...

676 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:46:59am
677 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:47:03am

re: #661 buzzsawmonkey

Do you just come up with this stuff off the top of your head?

678 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:47:03am

re: #632 DaddyG

Now this is a Christmas Carol!

(listen to all of it - but at least get to 1:10)

ROTFLMAO... Oh my god I sooo loved "I had Christmas down in Africa"...

679 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:47:11am

re: #673 loppyd

It's dead here and the mail has already come so my work here is done.

Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah to one and all.

Mmmmwaaah!

I'm with you there. I came in early because Jr. kept me up all night. Now my desk is clean and I am counting the time until my office closes at noon.

680 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:47:29am

re: #639 loppyd

The Dinnerjacket answers the oft pondered question "what would Jesus do?"

Iran’s Ahmadinejad: Merry Xmas, bullying powers

Ah - Channel 4 ... that well-known 'alternative' TV, loved by Guardian readers, watched by a minuscule group of eternal malcontents.

The nation will watch, as always, The Queen.

681 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:47:30am

re: #571 loppyd
Hey {loppyd} Same to you! How are you doing today?

682 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:47:32am
683 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:47:38am

re: #649 Walter L. Newton

Happy Birthday, Walter!

684 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:47:44am

re: #620 loppyd

The Red Sox will still have a better record. You can't buy heart.

It looks like they are trying to buy up every 30+ year old pitcher for sure.

685 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:47:55am

re: #674 realwest

Real is closing in on 9000 Karma...c'mon everyone. That'd be a nice Gift!

686 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:48:11am

re: #682 buzzsawmonkey

What other way is there?

Some would say out of your ass. Not me mind you :)

687 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:48:31am

re: #676 buzzsawmonkey

Well, parody verses are a hobbit of mine.

Well, elf yourself to some more.

688 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:48:38am

re: #677 Ford_Prefect

Do you just come up with this stuff off the top of your head?

Something like that - but try the other end.

/luv ya monkey!

689 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:48:44am

re: #676 buzzsawmonkey

Wait! Wait! Don't tell me...

"Good Morning, Vietnam"?

690 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:48:47am

Good morning all! It's taken me about an hour to get in!
Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah to all.

691 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:48:58am

re: #654 Sharmuta

Happy Birthday, {Walter}!

re: #655 reloadingisnotahobby

Happy Birthday Walter!
Enjoy your Golden Colorado global Warming Holidays!

I'm bummed, no snow in the Denver area. They are getting slammed in the mountains and the eastern plains are getting some. But it's all breaking up over the Queen City and reforming east of here.

re: #660 loppyd

Happy Birthday Walter!

You share your b-day with my step-father...good company to be in.

Thanks

re: #662 reloadingisnotahobby

That's what? 49?

56

re: #663 Creeping Eruption

Happy B-day!

Thanks.
re: #670 DaddyG

Happy birthday Walter!

I pray you have a prosperous year.

I'll take that prayer. Even a "I cab pay the bills" year.

re: #666 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Walter. Happy Birthday. What kind of cake you gonna have?

Carrotre: #683 FrogMarch

Happy Birthday, Walter!

Thanks.

692 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:49:13am

re: #621 jcm

Yep, I don't mind the no salt that much, saves my vehicles. The rubber blades? Saves the roads. Biggest factor is the local drivers who can barely drive in the rain and in snow are hopeless. They actually believe the Subaru commercials!

Hmmm... what could possibly go wrong in a hilly area when the police vehicles have rear wheel drive. .

693 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:49:32am

re: #665 loppyd

What these fools don't realize is that AWD and 4WD doesn't mean magic brakes.

LOL

The funniest for me, was a few years back I'm head down a hill on packed snow and ice with a traffic light at the bottom. A guy in a Subaru heads down the hill lickety spilt. Light changes, car way in front of him stops, the Subaru toboggans right in the back of the stopped car. I was still on the FD then, so I stop to see if everyone is okay.

The guy the Subaru pops out and exclaims:
"BUT I HAVE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE!"

694 Richard Romano  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:49:37am

A creation poem that truly celebrates nature's beauty:

GLORY be to God for dappled things—
For skies of couple-colour as a brinded cow;
For rose-moles all in stipple upon trout that swim;
Fresh-firecoal chestnut-falls; finches’ wings;
Landscape plotted and pieced—fold, fallow, and plough;
And áll trádes, their gear and tackle and trim.

All things counter, original, spare, strange;
Whatever is fickle, freckled (who knows how?)
With swift, slow; sweet, sour; adazzle, dim;
He fathers-forth whose beauty is past change:
Praise him.

--Gerard Manley Hopkins, "Pied Beauty"

695 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:49:39am

re: #676 buzzsawmonkey

Well, parody verses are a hobbit of mine.

As long as you're "orc"anized.

696 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:49:39am

re: #690 Golem Akbar

Good morning all! It's taken me about an hour to get in!
Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah to all.

Likewise

697 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:50:05am

re: #691 Walter L. Newton

Boy, that comment blew up about halfway through. I was trying to add all the "quotes" in one message. To early to be looking at HTML.

698 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:50:06am

re: #649 Walter L. Newton

Happy Birthday to me...

Well, Maisey the Parrot can't sing it.

Scientists warn Christmas lights harm the planet

Here we go again...

[Link: www.news.com.au...]

A Happy Birthday to you!

And don't worry about those scientists - according to them, everything we do 'harms the planet' ...
And if thats the case, we might as well enjoy doing it, rather than sit around in sackcloth and ashes!

699 vxbush  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:50:17am

Ach...got distracted. Later, everyone.

700 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:50:48am

re: #697 Walter L. Newton

It's comments like that where preview is your friend.

701 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:50:51am
702 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:51:33am

re: #687 Ford_Prefect

Well, elf yourself to some more.


That has a familiar ring to it.

703 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:52:34am
704 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:52:43am

re: #584 jcm
Hey I'm sure glad to hear that! How'd things go with the little one's ear infection? Antibiotics helping any?

705 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:52:56am

re: #693 jcm

In Colorado we call it "four wheel slide." You would think that here, we would have drivers who know better.

I don't think it's so much a matter of how well people know how to drive on snow, I think it's just that people have started not to care a twit about anyone else on the road.

It's all part of this "entitlement" mentality that has become rampant in this country. Me, me, me.

706 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:52:59am
707 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:53:23am

Happy Waltermas!

(snowing again here in Portland)

708 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:53:45am
709 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:53:45am

re: #700 Sharmuta

It's comments like that where preview is your friend.

Preview takes the all the fun out of it.

710 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:53:49am

Good Morning All and Happy Hannukah and a Merry Christmas!
Happy Birthday Walter!
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Special Report' Anchor Brit Hume Steps Down

711 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:54:13am

Guys we were right!

We can skip the chick flicks!

How could "My Best Friend's Wedding" impact your bond? Well, according to relationship experts at Heriot Watt University in Edinburgh, romantic comedies give people unrealistic ideas about love and sex, and cause them to communicate poorly.

Dirty Harry marathon this weekend!

*runs for the hills*

712 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:54:32am

&#9834 &#9836 Happy Birthday to you &#9836 &#9834
&#9834 &#9836 Happy Birthday to you &#9836 &#9834
&#9835 &#9836 Happy Birthday dear Walter &#9836 &#9834
&#9834 &#9836 Happy Birthday to You! &#9836 &#9834

And many mooore!

713 rawmuse  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:54:40am

re: #705 Walter L. Newton

"Me, me, me"
But, enough talk about me, what do you think of my shoes?

714 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:54:50am

re: #711 jcm

I luv Dirty Harry!

715 Maximu§  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:55:06am

The Today Show is talking about "Romantic Comedy's"...and this is news? Our soldiers are shooting it out in Afghanistan, the economy is melting, our leaders are rolling in money, Israel is being threatened with extinction and is this a news-worthy story?

716 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:55:19am

re: #704 realwest

Hey I'm sure glad to hear that! How'd things go with the little one's ear infection? Antibiotics helping any?

3rd day, we switched to allergy meds to see if it's allergy caused. Should know in a week or so, yesterday she was a fusspot, this morning pretty happy.

717 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:55:34am

re: #714 notutopia

I luv Dirty Harry!

Me too, as well, likewise, also!

718 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:55:41am

Well, our Christmas Eve music gig just got canceled due to the ice and slush, so I have the whole rest of the day off.

I'd worked up a nice arrangement of What Child is This too. Oh well, there's always the next gig.

719 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:55:47am

re: #707 Killgore Trout

Happy Waltermas!

(snowing again here in Portland)

I'm jealous. Dry here. Mountains getting slammed, eastern plains getting a few inches, front range, nothing. That happens a lot, It's got a lot to do with the topography and the way storms respond to mountains versus the high plains around Denver.

720 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:55:56am

re: #715 Maximu§
Holiday diversions...

721 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:56:04am

re: #707 Killgore Trout

I've been saving two Tori Amos songs for you.

And Merry Christmas. That's my LOTR pun, btw.

722 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:56:19am

re: #710 notutopia

Good Morning All and Happy Hannukah and a Merry Christmas!
Happy Birthday Walter!
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Special Report' Anchor Brit Hume Steps Down

re: #712 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to you ♬ ♪
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to you ♬ ♪
♫ ♬ Happy Birthday dear Walter ♬ ♪
♪ ♬ Happy Birthday to You! ♬ ♪

And many mooore!

Thanks

723 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:56:29am

re: #602 DeafDog

In the same spirti, and under the assumption that just about all Israelis will at least give lip service to liking the USA, I wish Israels who like George Bush a happy Hanukkah.

It's not quite the same spirit, is it?
Israel is a country, Bush is not.
If you had said that you wish a happy Hannukah to all Israelis who like the USA then that would be in the same spirit.
Were you offended? If so, I'm sorry, but I thought all Christian lizards liked Israel.

724 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:56:40am

[Link: shock.military.com...]

eggnog and miniguns...YEE HAW!

725 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:56:53am

re: #718 3 wood
Play it for US !

726 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:57:05am

re: #718 3 wood

Well, our Christmas Eve music gig just got canceled due to the ice and slush, so I have the whole rest of the day off.

I'd worked up a nice arrangement of What Child is This too. Oh well, there's always the next gig.

Wait, you're a musician and an investor?

727 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:57:12am

Somebody hit a utility poll by my house last night and drove off leaving their bumper just lying in the road. I just went out to move it onto the sidewalk and noticed their license plate was still attached. I figure the state will return it to them.

728 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:57:18am

re: #605 loppyd How much ya wanna bet that NONE of the Kennedy family contributed so much as a nickel to the SA?
Still and all, it's good to hear news like that, thanks!

729 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:57:25am

re: #715 Maximu§

The Today Show is talking about "Romantic Comedy's"...and this is news? Our soldiers are shooting it out in Afghanistan, the economy is melting, our leaders are rolling in money, Israel is being threatened with extinction and is this a news-worthy story?

Same story?

re: #711 jcm

Guys we were right!

We can skip the chick flicks!

Dirty Harry marathon this weekend!

*runs for the hills*

Kinda of a DUH! Movies a have unrealistic portrayals of love and romance.

730 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:57:31am

re: #714 notutopia

Watched a good revenge flick last weekend "Death Sentence"
With that guy from ...ah...ah...ah...that old Dance movie
...ah...Never mind!

731 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:57:41am

re: #727 Killgore Trout

Somebody hit a utility poll by my house last night and drove off leaving their bumper just lying in the road. I just went out to move it onto the sidewalk and noticed their license plate was still attached. I figure the state will return it to them.

Heh - with a fat ticket for property damage

732 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:57:57am

Dow is up 39, S&P up 4, oil down to $37.47

733 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:58:00am

re: #708 Iron Fist

Really? I did not know that. He plays so much with Biblical allegory that I had him figured for Catholic or perhaps anti-Catholic. He does like to play up the dark imagery, what with the demons and all.

Let's just say that I have perhaps a little more inside information than most on RJD... ;p

734 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:58:15am

re: #727 Killgore Trout

Somebody hit a utility poll by my house last night and drove off leaving their bumper just lying in the road. I just went out to move it onto the sidewalk and noticed their license plate was still attached. I figure the state will return it to them.

I would have called the police and reported it. The driver deserves a visit by the police.

735 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:58:57am

re: #723 Spare O'Lake

no offense, just playing back. it was meant in the same spirit

736 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:59:05am

re: #732 3 wood

Dow is up 39, S&P up 4, oil down to $37.47

What a delightful Christmas present... ;)

737 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:59:07am

How the LOTR should have ended...

738 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:59:13am

re: #712 Miss Trixie
Why do I hear ...sirens!?

739 sattv4u2  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:59:17am

re: #734 Walter L. Newton

I would have called the police and reported it. The driver deserves a visit by the police CLUE BAT.

740 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:59:36am

re: #715 Maximu§

The Today Show is talking about "Romantic Comedy's"...and this is news? Our soldiers are shooting it out in Afghanistan, the economy is melting, our leaders are rolling in money, Israel is being threatened with extinction and is this a news-worthy story?

Hey! Obama got elected President! Every things is GREAT!
///

How is your boy? Home for the Holiday?
Give him a big handshake, a Merry Christmas, and a huge thank you for me.

741 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:59:48am

re: #721 Sharmuta

Thanks. I had a girlfriend in college who insisted on falling asleep while listening to Tori Amos. She always makes me sleepy to this day.

742 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 7:59:52am

re: #706 buzzsawmonkey

I hope to Sauron to even greater heights.

I don't know. I'm not that gollumble.

743 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:00:10am
744 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:00:28am
745 Taqyia2Me  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:00:33am

Happy Birthday Walter and many happy healthy returns.

(fuck big governement!)

746 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:00:38am

re: #734 Walter L. Newton

Not till he/she ...soders up!
Come on man ,It's Christmas!

747 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:00:51am

re: #746 reloadingisnotahobby


sobers!

748 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:00:52am

Santa has made it to Australia.

749 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:01:29am

re: #743 Iron Fist

The other night the Girlfriend and I saw a man in an El Camino who had taken a right off the road and down a railroad track, where he got stuck. We callled AAA, and hung around until the cops got there. Our good deed for the season.

You do realize that no good deed goes unpunished right?

750 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:01:37am

re: #726 Walter L. Newton

Wait, you're a musician and an investor?

Yup. I teach economics/finance/accounting/portfolio management in college, and am a former competitive golfer and baseball player too

*rubs right shoulder with the torn rotator cuff*

I don't like to wast a lot of time doing nothing.

751 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:02:01am
752 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:02:16am

re: #649 Walter L. Newton
happy bithday to you
happy birthday to you
happy birthday dear Walter
happy birthday to you
na!na!na!NNAAA!

753 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:02:23am
754 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:02:32am

re: #737 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How the LOTR should have ended...

BLASPHEMY!

We already burned you and Walter at the stack once for this!

Don't make us do it again!

Yeesh, some people never learn!

;-P

755 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:02:34am

re: #745 Taqyia2Me

Happy Birthday Walter and many happy healthy returns. (fuck big governement!)

Gladly. Thanks.

756 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:02:48am

re: #715 Maximu§

The Today Show is talking about "Romantic Comedy's"...and this is news? Our soldiers are shooting it out in Afghanistan, the economy is melting, our leaders are rolling in money, Israel is being threatened with extinction and is this a news-worthy story?

Meanwhile, from Rome, Emperor Nero was seen playing with matches.
We'll have more on that after we cover the gladiatorial line-up for tonight's matches.
(I'm not trying to be historically accurate here; don't nit-pick)

757 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:02:55am

re: #748 Ford_Prefect

The Santa Cam videos are great.

758 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:02:57am

re: #727 Killgore Trout

I figure the state will return it to them.

Along with several citations and a bill for repairs to the utility.

759 Peacekeeper  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:02:58am

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

760 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:03:15am

re: #737 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How the LOTR should have ended...

A slightly different take on The Council of Elrond.

761 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:03:23am

Happy birthday, Walter.

762 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:03:39am

All Right, I'm back. Whad I miss?

763 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:03:57am

re: #750 3 wood

I dont like to waste alot of time doing nothing.?
That's cause your not doin right!

764 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:03:59am

re: #744 buzzsawmonkey

Well, it give Smeagol to strive for.

What are you Tolkien about?

765 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:04:07am

re: #760 Sharmuta

A slightly different take on The Council of Elrond.

What about the Council of L. Ron?

766 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:04:57am
767 Maximu§  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:05:03am

re: #740 jcm

Hey! Obama got elected President! Every things is GREAT!
///

How is your boy? Home for the Holiday?
Give him a big handshake, a Merry Christmas, and a huge thank you for me.

He's home, but goes to Ft. Drum on Saturday. I'll give him your message. He looks good, but its hard to get him and his GF separated...their going at it like Bunnies. Ah, to be young again.

768 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:05:05am

Just remember Gollum is an award winner.

769 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:05:06am

re: #649 Walter L. Newton
HEY WALTER - HAPPY BIRTHDAY - and many, many more!

770 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:05:16am

re: #752 Cathypop

happy bithday to you
happy birthday to you
happy birthday dear Walter
happy birthday to you
na!na!na!NNAAA!

re: #753 buzzsawmonkey

Walter, it's your birthday?

Well, as they will say at shopping malls across the country the day after Christmas, "Many Happy Returns."

Thanks all.

771 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:05:39am

re: #751 Iron Fist

Cool. I've always liked Dio. I saw him in Tampa in 1988. He puts on a killer show.

And that is exactly what the whole Angle Demon thing is to him. A show for the paying crowd. The truth about RJD is that once you get him out of his Rock Star persona he is one of the gentlest quietest and most intelligent/thoughtful people you are likely to meet. The contrast to what he is like in his rock star persona is very dramatic.

772 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:06:29am

re: #590 Miss Trixie

Hiya, toots! We're both just fine, thanks for asking. My fridge is full, I've a little booze, plenty of firewood and the bills are paid. Christmas will be quiet and pretty-much worry-free this year.

And you and your menagerie?

DIRTY! They are hiding from me because they overheard me talking about giving them Christmas baths.

774 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:06:52am

re: #649 Walter L. Newton

Happy Birthday to me...

Well, Maisey the Parrot can't sing it.

Scientists warn Christmas lights harm the planet

Here we go again...

[Link: www.news.com.au...]


Happy Birthday Walter and Merry Christmas

775 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:07:36am

re: #754 jcm

Whaaa?

776 Peacekeeper  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:07:36am

[Link: www.wickedlasers.com...]

777 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:07:56am

re: #766 Iron Fist

That's why it is sooo important to hang on to a few thing that are not important!
So ya can go out and "BLOW THEM" up!
Allways makes me feel better!

778 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:08:14am
779 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:08:24am

re: #761 3 wood

Happy birthday, Walter.

Walter is a Christamas Baby?

Happy Birthday Walter.

780 Maximu§  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:08:28am

re: #756 Kosh's Shadow

Meanwhile, from Rome, Emperor Nero was seen playing with matches.
We'll have more on that after we cover the gladiatorial line-up for tonight's matches.
(I'm not trying to be historically accurate here; don't nit-pick)

Bread and free wine will also be passed out at tonights gladitorial games. Whats that old metaphor?

Bread and Circuses

781 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:08:36am
782 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:09:18am

re: #762 ggt

All Right, I'm back. Whad I miss?

Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old-man is here. We need a live roost . . . was it a live rooster? We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove. And, nobody seems to know what to give Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present. Is that about right? We are dealing with a lot of sh**.

783 acwgusa  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:09:29am

I've joined the Steve Jobs white plastic army. I got a Mac Mini. My Dell laptop and my custom built Windows box are now glaring at me. I had to tell them I'm a tech for a living, and expanding knowledge keeps them in upgrades.

784 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:09:47am

re: #660 loppyd
Hey loppyd - how is your step father doing these days?

785 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:10:08am
786 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:10:12am

re: #779 ggt

Walter is a Christamas Baby?

Happy Birthday Walter.

A Christmas Eve baby... I can just see his mother in between contractions worrying about how the presents were going to get wrapped.

787 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:10:18am

re: #782 DeafDog

Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old-man is here. We need a live roost . . . was it a live rooster? We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove. And, nobody seems to know what to give Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present. Is that about right? We are dealing with a lot of sh**.

You forgot Sarah's gonorrhea.

788 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:10:52am

re: #782 DeafDog

Nuke's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old-man is here. We need a live roost . . . was it a live rooster? We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove. And, nobody seems to know what to give Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present. Is that about right? We are dealing with a lot of sh**.

Well, sounds like we have our work cut-out for us!

I always think cash is a good wedding present.

789 Maximu§  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:11:01am

Time for coffee...cream and sugar (sweet and blond) of course. I could NEVER drink black coffee.

790 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:11:35am

re: #664 yma o hyd
Good morning to you - or afternoon {yma} - hope you're doing well today!

791 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:11:44am

re: #773 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I love that one. I haven't seen it linked this year yet.

792 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:11:45am

re: #761 3 wood

Happy birthday, Walter.

Thank you.

793 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:11:52am

re: #789 Maximu§

Time for coffee...cream and sugar (sweet and blond) of course. I could NEVER drink black coffee.

Java A-- Racist!

794 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:12:00am

re: #774 HoosierHoops

Happy Birthday Walter and Merry Christmas

Thanks.

795 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:12:16am
796 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:12:26am

re: #789 Maximu§

Time for coffee...cream and sugar (sweet and blond) of course. I could NEVER drink black coffee.

Dark and strong is how I take mine

797 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:12:28am

What does this mean?:

"This lizardoid's name does not seem to exist in the LGF repository."

798 acwgusa  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:12:41am

re: #785 buzzsawmonkey

They may say they understand, but they will never really forgive you.

They'll behave, or I'll turn on Vista's User Account Control as punishment.

799 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:12:47am

Fixed-rate mortgages continue to fall
Rates on 30-year fixed-rate mortgage at lowest since 1971: Freddie Mac

CHICAGO (MarketWatch) -- Fixed-rate mortgage rates fell again this week, with the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage setting another record low, at least since Freddie Mac began doing its weekly survey in the early 1970s.
The 30-year averaged 5.14% for the week ending Dec. 24, down from last week's 5.19% average, according to the survey, released on Wednesday. It was more than a full percentage point below its 6.17% average a year ago, and hasn't been lower since Freddie started doing its rate survey in 1971.

Fifteen-year fixed-rate mortgages averaged 4.91% this week, down from 4.92% last week and 5.79% a year ago. The mortgage hasn't been lower since April 1, 2004, when it averaged 4.84%.

800 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:12:54am

re: #797 ggt

What does this mean?:

"This lizardoid's name does not seem to exist in the LGF repository."

It means refresh the page and try again.

801 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:12:59am

re: #15 rawmuse

The map is okay. I disagree with Canada. It is not uninhabited. We have many friendly Canadians here on LGF.
Can you fix that?

I luv your new Avatar rawmuse!

802 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:13:32am

re: #773 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here's a myspace page with the full video.

803 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:13:35am
804 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:13:43am

re: #668 jcm
ROTFLMAO! I know I shouldn't cause of good citizens of that state like you and Ping and Dustoff and others I'm sure I'm missing, but that kind of absolute idiocy is typical of Dems.
Man, y'all either gotta change your state government or move to another state!

805 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:13:47am

re: #800 Sharmuta

ah! Thanks!

806 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:13:56am

re: #795 Iron Fist

Dude! Never waste C-4...A tennis ball size will do!
Not that I've ever...you know...

807 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:14:26am

Has anyone ever heard Rob Barlett's a "New Yorker's Night Before Christmas?"

It has a long introduction, but the payoff is worth it. If you are at work, use headphones, there is some adult language.

I posted this on my own server space, so it's clean and virus free...

MP3 Audio
808 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:14:39am
809 Lincolntf  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:14:57am

re: #782 DeafDog

Candlesticks are always nice.

810 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:15:03am

re: #800 Sharmuta

It means refresh the page and try again.

Tried it, doesn't work.

811 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:15:15am

re: #781 buzzsawmonkey

We're just Shire-ing a few quips, is all.

Man, I am baggins you to stop.

812 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:15:19am

re: #787 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You forgot Sarah's gonorrhea.

True, but she can still where white at her wedding.

813 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:15:42am

Dow now up 59, S&P up 5

The short seller are definitely dumping their positions for the Holiday.

814 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:15:43am

re: #806 reloadingisnotahobby

Dude! Never waste C-4...A tennis ball size will do!
Not that I've ever...you know...

Even a tennis ball amount is, shall we say... Over kill... not that I would know... er, actually I really dont know... :O

815 rawmuse  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:16:47am

re: #801 notutopia

The map is okay. I disagree with Canada. It is not uninhabited. We have many friendly Canadians here on LGF.
Can you fix that?

I luv your new Avatar rawmuse!

I am pretty sure the map is a parody. I can't edit it, as it is not mine.
I just thought it was funny.

816 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:16:54am

re: #775 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whaaa?

Last night, Walter dissed LOTR, I threatened him with this. I thought you chimed in on the end of it.

817 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:17:04am

Never really liked that Elrond guy- he seemed Smaug and full of himself.

818 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:17:08am

re: #797 ggt

Someone forgot to pay their box rent?re: #797 ggt

What does this mean?:

"This lizardoid's name does not seem to exist in the LGF repository."

819 Maximu§  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:17:26am

re: #793 DaddyG

Java A-- Racist!


ugh, how you and Cathypop can drink black coffee is beyond me. Lots of Cream and Lots of Sugar is what coffee needs.

820 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:17:43am

re: #818 notutopia

Someone forgot to pay their box rent?re: #797 ggt

Reload and try again...

821 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:17:43am

re: #701 Iron Fist
But of course! The more money you owe 'em, the better your credit rating will be!
And NO, I don't pretend to understand that, either!

822 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:17:59am

re: #783 acwgusa

I've joined the Steve Jobs white plastic army. I got a Mac Mini. My Dell laptop and my custom built Windows box are now glaring at me. I had to tell them I'm a tech for a living, and expanding knowledge keeps them in upgrades.

How do you like the Mac? Our PC is getting long in the tooth, we are looking to replace it and were thinking of getting a Mac.

823 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:18:27am
824 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:18:56am

re: #816 jcm

If Walter was there, I probably chimed in. He thinks I am stalking him.

825 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:19:12am

re: #819 Maximu§

ugh, how you and Cathypop can drink black coffee is beyond me. Lots of Cream and Lots of Sugar is what coffee needs.

Just ribbin' ya. I don't drink the stuff at all. My stimulants of choice are chocolate and Dr. Pepper

826 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:19:15am

re: #790 realwest

Good morning to you - or afternoon {yma} - hope you're doing well today!

Hiya, {rw}!
Its peaceful and quiet - Christmas trees lit up in the windows in the houses in my street.
Some (male, of course!) neighbours are still out, hunting for presents - but us virtuous wimminfolk are all having a rest before the big battle of the turkey, tomorrow!

How are you - wrapped all the presents up? No more shopping?

827 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:19:24am

re: #816 jcm

Last night, Walter dissed LOTR, I threatened him with this. I thought you chimed in on the end of it.

I didn't DISS LOTR. You wanna hear dissing... :)

828 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:19:36am

re: #819 Maximu§

ugh, how you and Cathypop can drink black coffee is beyond me. Lots of Cream and Lots of Sugar is what coffee needs.

What you need is a good cup of coffee...

829 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:19:46am
830 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:19:48am

Side note- one of the kids on my list is getting The Hobbit for Christmas thanks to Auntie Shar.

831 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:19:50am
832 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:20:02am

re: #827 Walter L. Newton

I didn't DISS LOTR. You wanna hear dissing... :)

ROFL!

833 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:20:14am

re: #829 buzzsawmonkey

Groan Button.

834 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:20:35am

re: #705 Walter L. Newton
Hey Walter - while I certainly agree with your "It's all part of this "entitlement" mentality that has become rampant in this country. Me, me, me." in these situations I think it's just BAD drivers - think 4WD and/or ABS is reason enough to be able to travel at unsafe speeds, too close to the vehicle in front of you and thinking you can stop on a dime.
Just. Bad. Drivers.

835 acwgusa  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:20:37am

re: #822 3 wood

It takes a bit of adjustment, at the beginning, and over all. I have to physically think about it when I swap from Windows to OSX.

836 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:20:54am

re: #821 realwest

But of course! The more money you owe 'em, the better your credit rating will be!
And NO, I don't pretend to understand that, either!

It has to do with risk evaluation,

They can't measure the potential risk of someone who has very little borrowing history.

837 rawmuse  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:21:08am

re: #831 Iron Fist

Sounds like "Hard Likker and Hand Guns" night at the local saloon.

838 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:21:43am

re: #831 Iron Fist

I have. I got to help set up a 40 pound satchel charge of C-4 at a party three years ago. The stuff is impressive as hell. There's really not to terribly much too it. Pack the smaller charges together fairly tightly (they come with an adhesive strip to facilitate this), put in your blasting caps, and get the hell out of the way :-)

That was one hell of a party. Booze, explosives, guns, and did I mention explosives? All completely legal (well, mostly so at least). Best party I've ever been to. It'd be a hard one to top.


It's not really a party till the strippers arrive..
/

839 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:21:47am

re: #830 Sharmuta

Side note- one of the kids on my list is getting The Hobbit for Christmas thanks to Auntie Shar.

You're such a sweet auntie... ;)

840 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:22:09am

The Ring.

841 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:22:18am

Well. I do want to have sex again in this lifetime, so, it's off to the mall for me. Haven't even thought about a gift for the Mrs. Bet you I will be in and out of the mall within 30 minutes.

842 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:22:22am

re: #825 DaddyG
YUCK! on the Dr. Peper. Straight black coffee and with chocolates even better.

843 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:22:38am

re: #824 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If Walter was there, I probably chimed in. He thinks I am stalking him.

Mooo.

844 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:22:45am

re: #834 realwest

Hey Walter - while I certainly agree with your "It's all part of this "entitlement" mentality that has become rampant in this country. Me, me, me." in these situations I think it's just BAD drivers - think 4WD and/or ABS is reason enough to be able to travel at unsafe speeds, too close to the vehicle in front of you and thinking you can stop on a dime.
Just. Bad. Drivers.

I'll show you a bad driver:

Image: TruckInTree.jpg

845 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:22:45am

re: #715 Maximu§
You watch the Today Show? Really? Huh, wonder who the other four viewers are?!
/

846 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:23:09am

re: #840 MandyManners

The Ring.

There was no Prince Albert in the books!

847 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:23:22am
848 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:23:28am

re: #716 jcm
This morning pretty happy? That's great news jcm, great news!

849 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:23:29am

re: #830 Sharmuta

Side note- one of the kids on my list is getting The Hobbit for Christmas thanks to Auntie Shar.

absolute perfect gift for a certain age...good choice

850 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:23:39am

re: #845 realwest

You watch the Today Show? Really? Huh, wonder who the other four viewers are?!
/

Rosie...

851 Gearhead  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:24:01am

re: #838 HoosierHoops

It's not really a party till the strippers arrive..
/

I just love hearing people swap stories about their holiday traditions.

852 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:24:48am

re: #841 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well. I do want to have sex again in this lifetime, so, it's off to the mall for me. Haven't even thought about a gift for the Mrs. Bet you I will be in and out of the mall within 30 minutes.

I knew it!

Another male doing his Christmas shopping on Christmas Eve!

Must be genetically fixed, methinks ...

853 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:24:48am

re: #718 3 wood "Oh well, there's always the next gig.CD!
There, fixed that for you!

854 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:25:06am

re: #834 realwest

Hey Walter - while I certainly agree with your "It's all part of this "entitlement" mentality that has become rampant in this country. Me, me, me." in these situations I think it's just BAD drivers - think 4WD and/or ABS is reason enough to be able to travel at unsafe speeds, too close to the vehicle in front of you and thinking you can stop on a dime.
Just. Bad. Drivers.

You tell me why some SUV owner just HAVE to park in two spots. Really, I see this happen all the time. And it's not a matter of bad parking. I see them actually pull into a space at an planned angle so they are catty-cornered in the two spaces.

Boy, I could fill up 6 months of Andy Rooney's spots talking about drivers, driving and parking.

855 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:25:28am

re: #737 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How the LOTR should have ended...

No kidding. While I love the movies - why not just grab an eagle and end it.

856 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:26:03am

The ban on snowzilla made the board yesterday. From foxnews today, however, we learn that Alaska's 'Snowzilla' Rises Again, Mysteriously

Photos at 11

857 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:26:36am

Oil inventories are very high:

Oil falls for 3rd day on record inventories at Cushing

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - Crude-oil futures fell Wednesday for a third session, briefly tumbling 6% to below $37 a barrel, as government data showed inventories at a key delivery point rose to the highest since at least April, 2004.
Crude inventories at Cushing, Okla., the delivery point for crude futures contracts traded on the New York Mercantile Exchange, rose to 28.7 million barrels in the week ended Dec. 19, the Energy Information Administration reported.
It was the highest since at least April, 2004, when the government started collecting Cushing data.
"The downward pressure in oil prices is from the exceptionally high stocks of oil at Cushing, although total inventories fell," said James Williams. "People pay more attention to Cushing inventories."

They are running out of places to store it. I hear there is starting to be a shortage of tankers cause they are becoming floating storage sheds.

858 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:26:38am

re: #855 FrogMarch

No kidding. While I love the movies - why not just grab an eagle and end it.

Another Heretic to deal with...

;-P

859 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:26:51am

re: #828 jcm

What you need is a good cup of coffee...

Yeah, well mebbee not...

860 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:26:58am
861 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:27:11am

re: #855 FrogMarch

No kidding. While I love the movies - why not just grab an eagle and end it.

The no fly zone over Mordor was being enforced at the time and the United Nations had not yet passed the security resolution that allowed the fellowship to take millitary action against the forces of evil.

862 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:27:14am

Way O/T... Here is a guy showing what it looks like to have the best job on the face of the earth and know it... Just look at the expression on Eddies face... Yes, getting my Christmas Eve morning Van Halen fix... ;)

863 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:28:09am

re: #846 jcm

There was no Prince Albert in the books!


Wasn't Prince Albert in the can?

864 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:28:11am

re: #841 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well. I do want to have sex again in this lifetime, so, it's off to the mall for me. Haven't even thought about a gift for the Mrs. Bet you I will be in and out of the mall within 30 minutes.

ROTFLMAO... You da man now dawg... ;)

865 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:28:12am

re: #859 Golem Akbar

Yeah, well mebbee not...


Thus the expression: Boy this coffee tastes like sh*t!

866 BignJames  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:28:24am

re: #854 Walter L. Newton

If they don't want people parking close, they should drive a ratty-ass '79 Buick or similar.

867 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:28:40am

re: #852 yma o hyd

I knew it!

Another male doing his Christmas shopping on Christmas Eve!

Must be genetically fixed, methinks ...

I was done in June. Got the Mrs. some Waterford crystal when we visited the plant there in Ireland.

868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:28:46am

re: #852 yma o hyd

We weren't doing anything for each other this year, was designed to not go at all. I can not imagine a Christmas morning without my treasure opening a little gift from me.

Been a rough few months financially (being a salesman and all), but, hell, we're not "Gift of the Magi" poor...so what the hell.

869 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:28:52am

He's a transcript of this year's alternative Christmas message broadcast on Chanel 4...
In full: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's 'alternative' Christmas message

If Christ were on Earth today, undoubtedly He would stand with the people in opposition to bullying, ill-tempered and expansionist powers.

If Christ were on Earth today, undoubtedly He would hoist the banner of justice and love for humanity to oppose warmongers, occupiers, terrorists and bullies the world over.

If Christ were on Earth today, undoubtedly He would fight against the tyrannical policies of prevailing global economic and political systems, as He did in His lifetime. The solution to today's problems is a return to the call of the divine Prophets. The solution to these crises is to follow the Prophets - they were sent by the Almighty for the good of humanity.

Today, the general will of nations is calling for fundamental change. This is now taking place. Demands for change, demands for transformation, demands for a return to human values are fast becoming the foremost demands of the nations of the world. The response to these demands must be real and true. The prerequisite to this change is a change in goals, intentions and directions. If tyrannical goals are repackaged in an attractive and deceptive package and imposed on nations again, the people, awakened, will stand up against them.

Fortunately, today, as crises and despair multiply, a wave of hope is gathering momentum. Hope for a brighter future and hope for the establishment of justice, hope for real peace, hope for finding virtuous and pious rulers who love the people and want to serve them – and this is what the Almighty has promised.


Merry Hopenchange!

870 Gearhead  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:29:09am

re: #840 MandyManners

The Ring.

ROTFLMAO

"YO, Frodo. Eyes up here."

871 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:29:12am

re: #863 Golem Akbar

Wasn't Prince Albert in the can?

Shouldn't you let him out?

872 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:29:13am
873 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:29:42am

re: #865 HoosierHoops

Thus the expression: Boy this coffee tastes like sh*t!

That's true. Also, another expression: boy, this coffee tastes like mud! -- Well, it should, it was ground this morning.

874 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:29:45am

re: #748 Ford_Prefect
Nope, now New Zealand!

875 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:30:21am

re: #857 3 wood

Those poor fucking pirates. (Sorry for language, but can you imagine that ransom demand?)..."Unless you give us 20.00, we will deliver this oil on schedule."

876 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:30:30am

re: #861 DaddyG

The no fly zone over Mordor was being enforced at the time and the United Nations had not yet passed the security resolution that allowed the fellowship to take millitary action against the forces of evil.

That's why you divert the UN, I mean Sauron, with some good butt crack.

877 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:30:30am

re: #858 jcm

Another Heretic to deal with...

;-P

they seem to be everywhere...soon we'll be outnumbered and surrounded

878 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:30:53am

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We weren't doing anything for each other this year, was designed to not go at all. I can not imagine a Christmas morning without my treasure opening a little gift from me.

Been a rough few months financially (being a salesman and all), but, hell, we're not "Gift of the Magi" poor...so what the hell.


If your gift is given with love your treasure will not care what it is or how expensive.

879 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:31:28am

re: #878 Cathypop

If your gift is given with love your treasure will not care what it is or how expensive.

And if it gets me laid, even better!

/

880 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:31:37am

re: #872 taxfreekiller

Democrats in Congress.

As soon as possible, pass a full Amnesty for the 20,000,000 illegals here within now, put in more H-1B high tech visas for more islamics from the islamic world, work up some new ways to allow work visas for the Mexican wage slaves, put more and more Americans out of work, after all your only putting 500,000 American born and raised out of work per month.

You know you hate America more than that, now get to work and
show your stuff.

Give them a little time, they will. Gee, they have to take a little break for Christmas, and so do you.

881 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:31:41am

re: #876 FrogMarch

That's why you divert the UN, I mean Sauron, with some good butt crack.

Or a Samwise Missile?

882 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:31:51am

re: #875 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Those poor fucking pirates. (Sorry for language, but can you imagine that ransom demand?)..."Unless you give us 20.00, we will deliver this oil on schedule."

ROTFLMAO...

883 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:32:05am
884 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:32:10am

re: #879 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You are an honest man.

885 jwb7605  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:32:36am

re: #710 notutopia

Good Morning All and Happy Hannukah and a Merry Christmas!
Happy Birthday Walter!
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Special Report' Anchor Brit Hume Steps Down

HotAir has the downloadable clip here.

886 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:32:46am

re: #883 buzzsawmonkey

Well, maybe a little. It's hard imagine getting all dewy-eyed over a Joe Biden Chia Pet, no matter how much love is behind the gift.

Biden- he's a Gaffer.

887 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:32:58am

re: #863 Golem Akbar

Wasn't Prince Albert in the can?

That's why I prefer a bidet. Prince Albert wouldn't have got stuck in one of those.

888 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:33:00am
889 Yashmak  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:33:02am

re: #854 Walter L. Newton

You tell me why some SUV owner just HAVE to park in two spots. Really, I see this happen all the time. And it's not a matter of bad parking. I see them actually pull into a space at an planned angle so they are catty-cornered in the two spaces.

Boy, I could fill up 6 months of Andy Rooney's spots talking about drivers, driving and parking.

They don't want door dings on their precious road-going behemoths.

I'll actually pull in at an angle next to those guys, just to make a point (although what that point is escapes me), and because I'm occasionally an ass.

890 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:33:10am

re: #878 Cathypop

If your gift is given with love your treasure will not care what it is or how expensive.


Warning caveat for FBV - no amount of love will overcome the negative Karma that comes from giving a household appliance.

891 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:33:14am

re: #883 buzzsawmonkey

Well, maybe a little. It's hard imagine getting all dewy-eyed over a Joe Biden Chia Pet, no matter how much love is behind the gift.

What if it comes with a sledge hammer?

892 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:33:37am

See y'all after a while. Y'all all run up and Up-Ding the heck out of realwest. Want to get the karma over 9K as a little gift.

893 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:33:42am
894 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:34:00am

U.S. unemployment lines longest in 26 years
Initial jobless benefit claims rise 30,000 to 586,000 in latest week

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The nation's labor market continued to worsen in recent weeks, with the unemployment lines stretching to the longest in 26 years, the Labor Department reported Wednesday.

First-time applications for state unemployment benefits jumped by 30,000 to a seasonally adjusted 586,000 in the week ended Dec. 20, the government said, based on reports of actual filings at state offices around the nation. That's the highest since November 1982. Read the full report.
The four-week average of new claims -- which smooth out distortions caused by bad weather, strikes or the timing of holidays -- rose by 13,750 to 558,000, the highest since December 1982.

Meanwhile, the number of people collecting benefits fell by 17,000 to 4.37 million in the week ended Dec. 13. The four-week average of continuing claims rose by 93,000 to 4.32 million, the most since December 1982.

The working population was a lot smaller in 1982, so the comparison is of limited value. The economy Reagan inherited from Carter was a lot worse than this so far.

895 ggt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:34:01am

bbiab-maybe

896 redstateredneck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:34:10am

re: #879 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And if it gets me laid, even better!

/


LOL! You are such a guy.

897 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:34:11am

re: #871 jcm

Shouldn't you let him out?

Maybe if he was on the can.

898 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:34:19am

re: #867 3 wood

I was done in June. Got the Mrs. some Waterford crystal when we visited the plant there in Ireland.

Thats outstanding!
Both because of the forward planning - and because of the Waterford Crystal.
I bet she'll be very very pleased indeed!

899 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:34:32am

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We weren't doing anything for each other this year, was designed to not go at all. I can not imagine a Christmas morning without my treasure opening a little gift from me.

Been a rough few months financially (being a salesman and all), but, hell, we're not "Gift of the Magi" poor...so what the hell.

I enjoy your thoughts, BUT I'M DONE WITH MAGI, stop mentioning it, everyone, I had two damn months of it.

Ok, got over that :)

900 Gearhead  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:34:51am

re: #879 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And if it gets me laid, even better!

/

That's why the Lexus commercials call it the "December to Remember" sale

901 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:35:07am

re: #890 DaddyG

Doghouse!

again.

902 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:35:17am

re: #877 albusteve

they seem to be everywhere...soon we'll be outnumbered and surrounded

Suddenly the scene from Blazing Saddles of sheriff Bart circling his lone wagon comes to mind...

903 rawmuse  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:35:21am

The National Anthem played by too high trumpets.
Turn your speakers down, and remove all dogs from the room.

904 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:36:11am

The Army Tanks (artificial Reef) Shipwreck


For any Scuba lizards...:)

[Link: www.aquaexplorers.com...]

905 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:36:40am
906 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:37:03am

re: #875 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Those poor fucking pirates. (Sorry for language, but can you imagine that ransom demand?)..."Unless you give us 20.00, we will deliver this oil on schedule."

Well I mention it just to show how limited the oil companies power actually is to manipulate the market price. They are baking up oil tankers in the ocean and using the gulf as a large storage shed, and price is still dropping.

It still boils down to supply and demand.

907 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:37:07am

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We weren't doing anything for each other this year, was designed to not go at all. I can not imagine a Christmas morning without my treasure opening a little gift from me.

Been a rough few months financially (being a salesman and all), but, hell, we're not "Gift of the Magi" poor...so what the hell.

Bling is always appreciated.

908 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:37:18am

re: #902 doriangrey

Suddenly the scene from Blazing Saddles of sheriff Bart circling his lone wagon comes to mind...

HA!...it wont get that bad...some of the dissers are faux me thinks

909 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:37:35am

re: #803 taxfreekiller
Good morning to you TFK - Merry Christmas Eve morning!

910 solomonpanting  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:39:26am

Dozens of militant rockets, mortars barrage Israel

No Israelis were injured in the barrages. The attacks took a steeper toll in Gaza as explosives apparently misfired, wounding three civilians and killing two militants. One of the injured civilians works for a conflict resolution center.


...^
Insert your own comment here.

911 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:40:19am

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We weren't doing anything for each other this year, was designed to not go at all. I can not imagine a Christmas morning without my treasure opening a little gift from me.

Been a rough few months financially (being a salesman and all), but, hell, we're not "Gift of the Magi" poor...so what the hell.

Yep, no matter how hard the times - there gotta be some small present to be unwrapped come Christmas Day.
Its not the size of the gift, its the generosity of the spirit that matters.

A second-hand book, difficult to get, about something we both enjoyed and talked about was much more precious to either of us than any diamonds or Rolexes or such ...

I'm sure you'll find just the right thing to show her your love!

A Merry Christmas to the both of you!

912 Pyrocles  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:40:26am

Mahmoud hits all the right (er, LEFT) notes in that. Speaks to the Commies and Chomskyites as well as the Obamatrons while denouncing economic "injustice" and "expansionism" along with "hope" and "change"!

Tehran knows its Western Leftist audience well.

re: #869 Killgore Trout

He's a transcript of this year's alternative Christmas message broadcast on Chanel 4...
In full: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's 'alternative' Christmas message


Merry Hopenchange!

913 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:40:52am

re: #898 yma o hyd

Both because of the forward planning - and because of the Waterford Crystal.
I bet she'll be very very pleased indeed!

Well, when I saw her pick up the same item about 4 times and then wistfully put it back, it was not hard to figure out what to do.

That, and they shipped it home free cause it cost more than a certain amount.

914 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:41:08am

re: #910 solomonpanting

Dozens of militant rockets, mortars barrage Israel


...^
Insert your own comment here.

One of the injured civilians works for a conflict resolution center.

Palestinian conflict resolution center eh, so he worked in a bomb factory eh...

915 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:41:09am

re: #877 albusteve

they seem to be everywhere...soon we'll be outnumbered and surrounded

That simplifies the problem!

916 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:41:14am

re: #906 3 wood

Well I mention it just to show how limited the oil companies power actually is to manipulate the market price. They are baking up oil tankers in the ocean and using the gulf as a large storage shed, and price is still dropping.

It still boils down to supply and demand.

Do I smell a bailout coming?

917 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:41:18am

re: #912 Pyrocles

Mahmoud hits all the right (er, LEFT) notes in that. Speaks to the Commies and Chomskyites as well as the Obamatrons while denouncing economic "injustice" and "expansionism" along with "hope" and "change"!

Tehran knows its Western Leftist audience well.

"Isa doesn't love you, this I know, 'cause the Mahdi tells me so..."


/SPIT...

918 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:42:10am

LOL. A sign of the times: Bell Ringers to accept credit cards

919 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:42:21am

re: #916 DeafDog

Do I smell a bailout coming?

Nope. Talk about mayhem!

920 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:42:37am

re: #915 jcm

That simplifies the problem!

there you have it!...I set em up...etc

921 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:42:51am

re: #910 solomonpanting

Dozens of militant rockets, mortars barrage Israel


...^
Insert your own comment here.

BAWHAHAHAHA!

Now if the IDF would just engage with counter battery fire...
*not holding my breath*

922 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:43:02am

re: #831 Iron Fist
LOL! Booze, guns and explosives, what else do ya need for a great party, really?!?

923 redstateredneck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:43:39am

re: #918 Creeping Eruption

LOL. A sign of the times: Bell Ringers to accept credit cards

I was asked last year while manning one of the kettles if we took credit cards. At the time, I thought it was funny.

924 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:43:59am

re: #922 realwest

LOL! Booze, guns and explosives, what else do ya need for a great party, really?!?

Call we weird, but it aint a party without lots of beautiful single girls... ;)

925 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:44:21am

re: #913 3 wood

Well, when I saw her pick up the same item about 4 times and then wistfully put it back, it was not hard to figure out what to do.

That, and they shipped it home free cause it cost more than a certain amount.

Aaaahhh!

Brings a smile to my face, just imagining her face tomorrow when she unwraps this!

Brilliant, well done, fantastic!

926 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:44:45am

re: #916 DeafDog

Do I smell a bailout coming?

Nope, but I would not plan on a whole lot of R&D being done on alternate sources of fuel for a while.

927 Maximu§  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:44:52am

Anyone else have their pets wrapped in blankets? My fat Beagle is wrapped up like a burrito and snoring on the couch...must be nice!

928 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:45:21am

re: #924 doriangrey

Call we weird, but it aint a party without lots of beautiful single girls... ;)

especially first time shooters..."here honey let me show you how to handle this thing"...

929 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:45:40am

re: #925 yma o hyd

I've been married for 25 years, I'm well trained by now.

930 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:45:51am

re: #928 albusteve

especially first time shooters..."here honey let me show you how to handle this thing"...

;)

931 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:45:55am

re: #844 Dustyvet
Bad driver - hell he parallel parked pretty damn well!
/

932 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:46:38am

re: #927 Maximu§

Anyone else have their pets wrapped in blankets? My fat Beagle is wrapped up like a burrito and snoring on the couch...must be nice!

Ditto our black lab. Our chocolate lab is lying right by my feet as I write this.

933 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:47:13am

re: #852 yma o hyd
Nah, most men have evolved - thanks to Amazon and Overstock! LOL!

934 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:47:38am

re: #910 solomonpanting

Dozens of militant rockets, mortars barrage Israel

Those darn militant rockets...

935 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:47:46am

re: #917 Dustyvet

Here's a comment on that 'speech', from a reasonably soppy leftie:

Comment: As a Christian, I'm terrified

Yeah, nice that you finally seem to get it, Ruthie ...

936 solomonpanting  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:47:57am

re: #918 Creeping Eruption

LOL. A sign of the times: Bell Ringers to accept credit cards

I've mentioned this previously:

One time years ago my wife and I were walking in downtown San Diego and were approached by a "street person" asking for money. He said he accepted credit cards and whipped out one of those old-style sliding carbon-copy credit card machines. Made our day.

937 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:48:03am

Just got back from an errand...yes, work related,I was out of
coffee!
I pullin to the conv...store ..when I walk out just as some twit
slams their truck door into the door of my work truck!
And I mean hard!
My jaw dropped momentarily...Look at said TWIT in the eye,
and told him "if that were my personal truck you'd be picking your teeth up off the lot ASSHOLE!
Opened my door ,smiled , and said "Merry Christmas"!
Ahhh, I love the Holidays!

938 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:48:07am

re: #931 realwest

Bad driver - hell he parallel parked pretty damn well!
/

Didn't even scratch the paint... ;p

939 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:48:16am

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We weren't doing anything for each other this year, was designed to not go at all. I can not imagine a Christmas morning without my treasure opening a little gift from me.

Been a rough few months financially (being a salesman and all), but, hell, we're not "Gift of the Magi" poor...so what the hell.

The richest gift of all.

940 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:48:43am

re: #912 Pyrocles

Ahmadinejad's speech last year Columbia was also catered to Western leftists. He knows his audience.

941 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:48:51am

re: #854 Walter L. Newton
Well I've actually only seen that done by folks with new cars who don't want their new "babies" scratched, but with SUV's I think it's part of this whole "Manly Man" shit and SUV's - especially Hummers.

942 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:49:14am

Rosen's reading the Toddler miracle diet.

I highly recommend - it's a great post holiday diet.

943 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:49:49am

re: #934 Spare O'Lake

Those darn militant rockets...

The Palestinians must be buying their Rockets from North Korea... ;p

944 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:50:07am

re: #927 Maximu§

My cats have glued themselves to the heating vents. Zoe the kitten ventures to the window to watch the snow occasionally.

945 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:51:18am

re: #927 Maximu§

Anyone else have their pets wrapped in blankets? My fat Beagle is wrapped up like a burrito and snoring on the couch...must be nice!

Nope - Madame likes to throw the blankets out of her various boxes!
She prefers the sofa corner, anyway - thats the place for the Top Dog, no matter that no other dogs are in the house, its the principle which counts.

946 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:51:19am

re: #942 FrogMarch

Rosen's reading the Toddler miracle diet.

I highly recommend - it's a great post holiday diet.

ROFLMAO!

Must have been to my house!

947 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:51:40am

OK. It is about time for me to be off. I likely will not be around here much over the next week and a half, so I will offer my season's greetings now.

Remember, this is a time to spend with family and friends. If there are people in your life that you are on the outs with, reach out to them now and mend fences. There are so many foolish little things that get between us and those that we love, and in the end all that we really have is each other. So enjoy each other for as long as you can, because when that person is gone you will no longer be able to reach out, and that will be just when you really want to.

Everyone please be safe and have a Merry Christmas / Happy Channukah / Happy New Year etc...

948 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:51:47am

re: #936 solomonpanting

I've mentioned this previously:

One time years ago my wife and I were walking in downtown San Diego and were approached by a "street person" asking for money. He said he accepted credit cards and whipped out one of those old-style sliding carbon-copy credit card machines. Made our day.

LOL. You've got to appreciate ingenuity. My brother told me of a guy who asked him for money. His pitch:

Q: What is the greatest Nation on Earth?

A: The donation.

He got one.

949 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:51:54am

re: #942 FrogMarch

That sounds like fun.

950 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:52:19am

re: #873 Golem Akbar
Ah Geez Golem that pun was SO BAD it was funny! LOL!

951 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:52:21am

re: #943 doriangrey

The Palestinians must be buying their Rockets from North Korea... ;p

Guaranteed to go off...
We just didn't say when!

952 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:52:34am
953 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:52:40am
954 Maximu§  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:52:54am

re: #932 3 wood

Ditto our black lab. Our chocolate lab is lying right by my feet as I write this.

Our pets are spoiled rotton.

My wife is buying wine for tonight and tomarrows party's at our house...I told her to buy BV, Robert Mondavi and Kendall Jackson and only if it has "Reserve" on the label.

You can't go wrong with those 3.

955 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:53:04am

re: #944 Killgore Trout

My cats have glued themselves to the heating vents. Zoe the kitten ventures to the window to watch the snow occasionally.

My Cat Tiger wants me to open the window and the screen so he can touch and play with the snow on the window ledge. Silly cat, your on the 5th floor...

956 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:53:33am

re: #929 3 wood

I've been married for 25 years, I'm well trained by now.

Well trained to see with the eyes of love ... sounds soppy but its true.
You can't put a price on a good, long marriage.

957 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:53:52am

re: #924 doriangrey

Call we weird, but it aint a party without lots of beautiful single girls... ;)

Ok, you're weird.

What?!? You told me to! ;)

958 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:54:12am

re: #883 buzzsawmonkey
ROTFL! Great one buzz - a Joe Biden Chia pet! LOL!

959 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:55:26am

re: #947 Ford_Prefect

OK. It is about time for me to be off. I likely will not be around here much over the next week and a half, so I will offer my season's greetings now.

Remember, this is a time to spend with family and friends. If there are people in your life that you are on the outs with, reach out to them now and mend fences. There are so many foolish little things that get between us and those that we love, and in the end all that we really have is each other. So enjoy each other for as long as you can, because when that person is gone you will no longer be able to reach out, and that will be just when you really want to.

Everyone please be safe and have a Merry Christmas / Happy Channukah / Happy New Year etc...

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

960 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:55:55am

re: #892 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Why thank you FBV - that's what I call "Holiday Spirit"! LOL!

961 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:56:05am

re: #941 realwest

Well I've actually only seen that done by folks with new cars who don't want their new "babies" scratched, but with SUV's I think it's part of this whole "Manly Man" shit and SUV's - especially Hummers.

Well, you need to live in Colorado. We have more SUV's (and all sorts of other LARGE vehicles) per capita than most places. The bad drivers are the ones that can't center the damn thing in a spot.

I parked in a spot once, and while I was in the store, a woman in a SUV parked so close to me that I couldn't get back in my drivers side door (I discovered this when I left).

But, when I left, she had already done her shopping and was back outside, at her SUV.

She was waiting there to yell at me for PARKING TOO CLOSE TO HER SUV.

I pointed out to her if I had done that, how the hell did I get out of my car, since I have a small sedan with a stick, and it's really hard to slide across to the passengers side door.

She didn't even realize how close she had pulled next to me. When the logic hit her, she said "fuck you" got in her SUV and pulled out. And before she drove off, she gave me the finger.

This kind of stuff happens all the time around here.

962 Maximu§  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:56:39am

re: #944 Killgore Trout

My cats have glued themselves to the heating vents. Zoe the kitten ventures to the window to watch the snow occasionally.

So! their sucking up all the heat eh? Go tickle their little paws for me.

963 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:57:15am

No comment!


Image: sunbathing_dogs.JPG

964 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:57:18am

re: #897 Golem Akbar
Who the hell does those "studies" anyway? And I sure hope Nokia paid 'em well for their efforts!

965 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:57:59am

re: #961 Walter L. Newton

Logic doesn't work with bad drivers or trolls.

966 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:58:19am

Me thinks there may be troll one thread over hoping Israel's response to Ham-ass is not "disproportionate."

967 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 8:59:33am

re: #862 doriangrey

re: #961 Walter L. Newton

Eddie takes a hit off his smoke and don't miss a lick!
Ah the day's!
Sammy Hagar was a favarite bck in the day!

You get propositioned by ladies in SUV all the time?
Wow ! LOL

968 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:00:12am

After he's done, off to the mess hall!

Image: dog.jpg

969 irongrampa  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:00:31am

Just a drive-by to wish all of you good people a Merry Christmas and the happiest of New Years.

970 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:00:44am
971 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:00:50am

re: #904 Dustyvet
Ah geez, Dusty - M113 APC's - we are officially OLD.
Merry Christmas!

972 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:01:01am

re: #942 FrogMarch

Rosen's reading the Toddler miracle diet.

I highly recommend - it's a great post holiday diet.

And to back up FrogMarch, I recommend listening to Mike this morning. He does this every Christmas eve, playing and reading funny holiday based stuff.

Live KOA streaming at ...

[Link: www.850koa.com...]

Safe for work... he's still got 1 hour and 40 minutes to go, you'll have some good laughs.

973 wii42  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:01:09am

I always sweated the mental gymnastics to follow sub-threads in any individual LGF thread, so ago I wrote a program to do that for me (rearranges the comments into a inverted tree structure). Recently added some logic to begin to quantify how 'viscous' (thick not mean) any particular LGF thread was. Here's some of those stats for recent threads for anyone interested in the same thing. No particular idea what/if the numbers mean..

stats for 32261_Rick_Warren_Reaches_Out_to_A_Holy_Land_Foundation_Co-Conspirator thread (as of comment #296):
comments generating largest sub-threads (# --- author --- sub-count):
#0001 --- Thanos --- 32
#0051 --- JacksonTn --- 26
#0136 --- UberInfidel67 --- 18
#0181 --- jonahsand --- 17
#0047 --- Thanos --- 14
(= 36.0% of total)
most comments (author --- count):
FurryOldGuyJeans --- 30
Thanos --- 24
jcm --- 21
realwest --- 18
Dianna --- 17
(= 37.0% of total)


stats for 32259_Headline_of_the_Day thread (as of comment #822):
comments generating largest sub-threads (# --- author --- sub-count):
#0225 --- Killgore Trout --- 118
#0652 --- taxfreekiller --- 79
#0580 --- Super-ego --- 56
#0005 --- Wyatt Earp --- 48
#0266 --- jwb7605 --- 42
(= 41.7% of total)
most comments (author --- count):
Walter L. Newton --- 76
FurryOldGuyJeans --- 73
Wyatt Earp --- 43
jcm --- 41
Fat Bastard Vegetarian --- 33
(= 32.3% of total)


stats for 32257_New_York_Times_Rejects_FBI_Informants_Op-Ed_Responding_to_Bill_Ayers thread (as of comment #226):
comments generating largest sub-threads (# --- author --- sub-count):
#0013 --- Sharmuta --- 20
#0121 --- newsjunkie_ky --- 19
#0036 --- solomonpanting --- 10
#0108 --- DaddyG --- 9
#0095 --- opinionated --- 8
(= 29.1% of total)
most comments (author --- count):
FurryOldGuyJeans --- 13
doriangrey --- 11
buzzsawmonkey --- 10
zombie --- 9
Jinx --- 8
(= 22.5% of total)


stats for 32252_Saddleback_Church_Deletes_Page_on_Creationism_and_Homosexuality thread (as of comment #774):
comments generating largest sub-threads (# --- author --- sub-count):
#0346 --- yochanan --- 84
#0246 --- LEGION --- 68
#0722 --- jonahsand --- 35
#0431 --- legalpad --- 28
#0279 --- taxfreekiller --- 25
(= 31.0% of total)
most comments (author --- count):
Walter L. Newton --- 41
albusteve --- 34
Salamantis --- 31
yochanan --- 27
Wishing --- 26
(= 20.5% of total)
974 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:01:33am

re: #971 realwest

Ah geez, Dusty - M113 APC's - we are officially OLD.
Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas Realwest...:)

975 Pyrocles  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:01:45am

Except for his comments about "no gays in Iran". Radical Islam's hatred for gays is one of the only real unbridgeable schisms between itself and the Left. Well, and the Creationist beliefs that it shares with some on the Christian Right.

re: #940 Killgore Trout

Ahmadinejad's speech last year Columbia was also catered to Western leftists. He knows his audience.

976 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:02:21am

re: #968 Dustyvet
And no opposing thumbs! What a bummer!LOL

977 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:03:18am

re: #913 3 wood
Did they all get there in one piece? I'm always leery of shipping anything of value that's truly fragile, ya know?

978 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:04:07am

re: #973 wii42

Now, that is interesting. I think it means that 20% of LGF do 80% of the work!

/kidding. Aw, c'mon! That was funny!

979 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:04:33am

MSM worshiping The Messiah in Hawaii:

Obama says goodbye to late grandmother in Hawaii

HONOLULU (Reuters) - President-elect Barack Obama paid his last respects on Tuesday to the woman he called the rock of his family, the grandmother who helped to raise him, before scattering her ashes from a Hawaiian shoreline.

Madelyn Dunham, known to Obama as Toot, short for Tutu, the Hawaiian word for grandmother, took him in when his mother went to work in Indonesia and put him through private school.

Dunham was one of the main formative influences on Obama's life but she did not live to see him win office. She died of cancer at 86 just two days before he won the November 4 election.

The demands of the presidential campaign meant Obama was unable to fly to Hawaii for her funeral. But on Tuesday, he finally bade her farewell at a memorial service attended by friends and family, including his wife Michelle, daughters Malia and Sasha, and half-sister Maya Soetoro-Ng.

If Obama were a conservative, he'd be getting ripped by the MSM for taking time off at this time of need by the nation for leadership.

Get this butt kissing:

"She's the one who taught me about hard work," Obama told a packed stadium in Denver in August when he accepted the Democratic presidential nomination.

"She's the one who put off buying a new car or a new dress for herself so that I could have a better life."

May she rest in peace, but I wonder is she also was the one who taught him to hang out with Rev, G** D*** America Wright, Ayers, and Rezko?

But the MSM would never ask that, cause they like those kinds of people.

980 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:04:59am

re: #978 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
LGF is the GOVT?

981 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:05:00am
982 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:05:23am

re: #924 doriangrey
Call "we" weird - who ya got with ya there?!
But yes, of course pretty women - single, preferably - who like booze, guns and high explosives! WOOT!

983 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:06:09am

re: #980 reloadingisnotahobby

LGF is the GOVT?

LGF is everything.

*shuffling off to the mall, dazed look in eye...*

LGF is everything.

984 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:06:23am

re: #973 wii42

I always sweated the mental gymnastics to follow sub-threads in any individual LGF thread, so ago I wrote a program to do that for me (rearranges the comments into a inverted tree structure). Recently added some logic to begin to quantify how 'viscous' (thick not mean) any particular LGF thread was. Here's some of those stats for recent threads for anyone interested in the same thing. No particular idea what/if the numbers mean..

I'm only mentioned in your stats once? Obviously it means your states are way off... ;p

985 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:07:22am

re: #926 3 wood
Geez 3 wood you sure about that? I mean look at who Obama has picked to run the EPA and all.
I think a LOT of money will be wasted spent on R&D for alternative fuels, just not any that are likely to be of value!

986 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:08:08am

re: #977 realwest

Did they all get there in one piece? I'm always leery of shipping anything of value that's truly fragile, ya know?

They are fine. I opened them as soon as we got home from Ireland, they beat us back. All wrapped up under the tree right now.

987 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:09:57am

re: #973 wii42

I always sweated the mental gymnastics to follow sub-threads in any individual LGF thread, so ago I wrote a program to do that for me (rearranges the comments into a inverted tree structure). Recently added some logic to begin to quantify how 'viscous' (thick not mean) any particular LGF thread was. Here's some of those stats for recent threads for anyone interested in the same thing. No particular idea what/if the numbers mean..

Just a little question. Are you parsing the HTML source on your workstation or are you hitting Charles' database somehow?

988 3 wood  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:10:39am

re: #985 realwest

Geez 3 wood you sure about that? I mean look at who Obama has picked to run the EPA and all.
I think a LOT of money will be wasted spent on R&D for alternative fuels, just not any that are likely to be of value!

I was unclear in my statement. I have no doubts that the gov't will waste all kinds of money on alternate fuels, but I never thought they would do any good anyway, so I just disregard that.

I'm referring to private R&D. Won't happen at these prices, the potential rate of return is not there.

989 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:10:56am

re: #947 Ford_Prefect
Thanks for a great post Ford - the same Holiday wishes to you and yours.

990 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:13:22am

re: #961 Walter L. Newton
Charming, just charming. Ah the love of the Lefties in the Rockies!

991 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:15:31am

re: #973 wii42
Uh, WHAT?!

992 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:16:09am

re: #974 Dustyvet
Merry Christmas to you too my friend.

993 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:17:48am

re: #991 realwest

Uh, WHAT?!

No kidding... I am sooo under reported in those stats... They cant possible be right... I want you to file a discrimination suit against wii42 on my behalf... ;p

994 realwest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:17:54am

re: #980 reloadingisnotahobby Country would be better off if LGF was the Government!

995 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:20:00am

re: #994 realwest

Country would be better off if LGF was the Government!

Now there is a thought to put a Christmas smile on your face... Just imagine all the moonbat heads that would explode at even the thought of that... ;)

996 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:21:32am

re: #993 doriangrey

No kidding... I am sooo under reported in those stats... They cant possible be right... I want you to file a discrimination suit against wii42 on my behalf... ;p

Well, I sent a email to Charles. If you see my comment above, I am curious if he is simply parsing the HTML source that is on his side (the web page he gets on his computer) or if he is some script kiddie who has managed to get through to the database.

Notice that he hasn't answered my comment above.

997 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:24:49am

re: #996 Walter L. Newton

Well, I sent a email to Charles. If you see my comment above, I am curious if he is simply parsing the HTML source that is on his side (the web page he gets on his computer) or if he is some script kiddie who has managed to get through to the database.

Notice that he hasn't answered my comment above.

I briefly pondered that myself, then decided he was probably using a personally modified crawler. It would be interesting to hear what Charles thinks of this though.

998 wii42  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:25:28am

re: #984 doriangrey

it's just the top five...

999 wii42  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:26:42am

re: #987 Walter L. Newton

of course I'm just parsing the html source - perl, regular expressions, recursion - and, months later, not nearly enough comments in the source... ;(

1000 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:27:28am

re: #997 doriangrey

I briefly pondered that myself, then decided he was probably using a personally modified crawler. It would be interesting to hear what Charles thinks of this though.

Well, Charles doesn't like anyone crawling the site, he has put in a lot of "traps" to keep search engines and other indexing bots out of here, so I suspect he wouldn't like Wii42 sniffing around here either.

I sent Charles and email.

1001 wii42  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:29:03am

re: #997 doriangrey

well I suppose it's a 'scraper' v. a 'crawler' - whatever, I wrote it myself and use it only for myself (vs. trying to mentally juggle the myriad sub-threads)

1002 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:29:08am

re: #999 wii42

of course I'm just parsing the html source - perl, regular expressions, recursion - and, months later, not nearly enough comments in the source... ;(

LGF users do a good job of self-monitoring this site, so no offense was meant. That's just par for the course here. Just checking.

1003 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:31:13am

re: #1001 wii42

well I suppose it's a 'scraper' v. a 'crawler' - whatever, I wrote it myself and use it only for myself (vs. trying to mentally juggle the myriad sub-threads)

Just to make this clear, you are doing ALL the processing on your side, the client side. You are not using a script that goes out, gets what you want, brings it to you and then does it's what ever?

Because if you are, that's a crawler, a bot, a what ever you favorite word is, and I don't think Charles likes that at all.

1004 wii42  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:31:16am

re: #1000 Walter L. Newton

i'm not 'crawling' the site - once you're displaying an LGF comment webpage on your browser you already have the source code (html) for that page, and that's what being parsed to give me my tree-structured view of the comments.

you, otoh, get to mentally juggle myriad FILO stacks of interconnected sub-threads ... or not.

1005 [deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:33:48am
1006 wii42  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:34:33am

re: #1003 Walter L. Newton

I'm not sure you what you're writing aobut - of course all the processing is on my pc - what I'm doing doesn't cost the gerbils one extra cpu cycle

lol - i feel like you're trying to get me banned just in time for Xmas

1007 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:34:33am

Merry Christmas, tfk.

1008 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:34:46am

re: #1004 wii42

i'm not 'crawling' the site - once you're displaying an LGF comment webpage on your browser you already have the source code (html) for that page, and that's what being parsed to give me my tree-structured view of the comments.

you, otoh, get to mentally juggle myriad FILO stacks of interconnected sub-threads ... or not.

I know that, I was just asking, your talking to a programmer of 30 years.

Well, it seems you code has some bugs in it, according to the comments above.

Back to work.

1009 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:37:26am

re: #1006 wii42

I'm not sure you what you're writing aobut - of course all the processing is on my pc - what I'm doing doesn't cost the gerbils one extra cpu cycle

lol - i feel like you're trying to get me banned just in time for Xmas

Did you see my comment above. Buck up, the users on this site do a hell of a lot of self-monitoring. You have noticed the tools that Charles has given us.

Shit, you can't take being asked a question. I can't get you banned if you are not doing anything wrong, do you get that.

1010 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:39:05am

re: #1009 Walter L. Newton

Did you see my comment above. Buck up, the users on this site do a hell of a lot of self-monitoring. You have noticed the tools that Charles has given us.

Shit, you can't take being asked a question. I can't get you banned if you are not doing anything wrong, do you get that.

Walter, I think perhaps wwii does quite understand how protective of Charles and LGF many Lizards are.

1011 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:40:21am

re: #1010 doriangrey

Walter, I think perhaps wwii does quite understand how protective of Charles and LGF many Lizards are.

you meant "doesn't" yes?

1012 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:44:46am

re: #1011 Walter L. Newton

you meant "doesn't" yes?

Yes, my bad... ;(

1013 wii42  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 9:52:17am

re: #1009 Walter L. Newton

frankly I didn't understand your question but it's not worth arguing over.

Mostly i just thought it was interesting that some of the comments engender sub-threads (replies to replies to replies, etc) that get rather long and deep and wide so no wonder i found them hard to keep track of.

outta here..

1014 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 10:51:22am

There's no problem with what wii42 is doing -- he's just using some kind of text-processing program to crunch through the source code. It's kind of interesting, actually.

But the way replies are organized at present is too fragile for this to be a model for threaded comments at LGF. The only indicators (and the only records) of threading are the comment numbers inserted as text into the comments, when a user hits the reply/quote button. These can be edited like any other text before the comment is posted, so it's inherently unreliable for a real threading system.

I've considered implementing threading, but it's far from a simple change. The comment database would need some reworking, and that's just the start of it.

If it ever happens, I'll probably code something along the lines of Digg, rather than the ugly Daily Kos Scoop system.

1015 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 11:13:54am

fwiw - in my humble opinion - I like the pages here just like they are. I find the "threaded" pages on other sites harder to follow. I find the reply and quote functions to be wonderful features.

I like scrolling thru a thread, and looking at the various comments. If I need to find something (or someone) in particular on a page, I can ctrl+F, and search via the search box that comes up, very easy to do.

Just my .02.
fwiw.

1016 apachegunner  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 11:25:45am

re: #1010 doriangrey

hello again Dorian, don't you ever work? :>)

1017 wii42  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:22:39pm

re: #1014 Charles

Thanks Charles.
You're right of course - as is it's inexact and totally fragile and you break my code every time you tweak your html =P The only database change necessary to implement my algorithm to thread the comments would be adding a 'replies_to' field to each comment record, fwiw. If you're curious to see how the threaded threads look email and I'll send you a link. Same with the source code (though it's mainly regexes trying to tease out the stuff you already have). Definitely not agitating for change - file this under pure research.

1018 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 12:24:56pm

re: #1016 apachegunner

hello again Dorian, don't you ever work? :>)

Not when I have Baileys to drink... ;p


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 Frank says:

Great googly-moogly - you're gonna do it too!