Just another nail in the UK's coffin

Appeasement is just so darn easy.

Should we start to refer to the former UK as the IK?

...The Islamic Kingdom?

The same thing that's been wrong with the media for some time now. They're morally bankrupt and couldn't recognize good from evil, and somehow believe that good defending itself from evil is the same as evil attacking the good.

Probably shouldn't presume to know what Christ would do.

“If Christ was on Earth today undoubtedly he would stand with the people in opposition to bullying, ill-tempered and expansionist powers,”

Pretty sure that were Jesus here, "sir", He'd see right through you in a New York second.

As wholes

/sorry for the ad homonym attack

it won't be too long that he might be the president of Englandistan

Horrible and shameful... Where's UK heading? A European Saudi Arabia?

“If Christ was on Earth today undoubtedly he would stand with the people in opposition to bullying, ill-tempered and expansionist powers,”

Funny Jesus never spoke about Roman expansionism in his day.

re: #8 pegcity

it won't be too long that he might be the president of Englandistan

Um, wouldn't that be Charles, the so-called "Prince" of Wales?

re: #8 pegcity

they already call it Englistan any ways

Better than coal in ShortShit's stocking.

re: #9 winston06

Horrible and shameful... Where's UK heading? A European Saudi Arabia?

Without the sand, oil, or Islamic holy sites, and bloody cold to boot.

re: #10 bulwrk

“If Christ was on Earth today undoubtedly he would stand with the people in opposition to bullying, ill-tempered and expansionist powers,”

Funny Jesus never spoke about Roman expansionism in his day.

Was that because He rendered unto Caesar that which belonged to Caesar?

I can only imagine what the ads on either side of that message are going to sell for. Or perhaps a runner across the bottom. Worldwide press.

Also, on a more emotional note, what a bunch of dumb f#cks! Let's have Sean Penn on air with DinnerJacket just to round out the idiocy

Just for the record, Christ would approve of reckless foreign adventurism?

Dear Santa ...All I want for Christmas is to wipe Dinnerjacket off the map ...

/I hope we learn from what is happening in the UK ...creeping Sharia must be stopped ...

just shameful

I dare say if Christ were on earth today Mr Ahmadinejad and his ilk would be treated to the business end of a scourge and driven from their temples of political power.

As I noted in the last thread, the NYT is running a photo of the terrorists in action - preparing to fire another kassam against Israel, and doesn't bother to show photos of the damage done by the same terrorists and their ilk. Just imagine the outcry if Israel responds and kills the terror cell and the photographer doing the terror propaganda; it's still more propaganda for the terrorists since the evil Israelis killed Palestinians and the journalists covering their side of the story, even though the media refuses to show that the terrorists seek nothing less than Israel's destruction.

re: #20 DaddyG

i doubt that...

I'm sure these British fools will enjoy oblivion. They will have have earned it most certainly.

If Jesus was alive today, I doubt strongly he would approve of you, Ahmadinejad.

I'm suddenly reminded that I gotta' clean out Petey's cage. bbiab

re: #24 MrSilverDragon

If Jesus was alive today, I doubt strongly he would approve of you, Ahmadinejad.

Of course Jesus wouldn't like DinnerJacket. Jesus was a Jew and DinnerJacket argues death for all Jews! Simple as that!

re: #3 Macker

Should we start to refer to the former UK as the IK?

...The Islamic Kingdom?

IC - Islamic Caliphate

Here's the transcript...
In full: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's 'alternative' Christmas message

Fortunately, today, as crises and despair multiply, a wave of hope is gathering momentum. Hope for a brighter future and hope for the establishment of justice, hope for real peace, hope for finding virtuous and pious rulers who love the people and want to serve them – and this is what the Almighty has promised.

We believe, Jesus Christ will return, together with one of the children of the revered Messenger of Islam and will lead the world to love, brotherhood and justice. The responsibility of all followers of Christ and Abrahamic faiths is to prepare the way for the fulfilment of this divine promise and the arrival of that joyful, shining and wonderful age. I hope that the collective will of nations will unite in the not too distant future and with the grace of the Almighty Lord, that shining age will come to rule the earth.

He has a bad case of Hopenchange.

Here is my message to the hairy altitudinally challenged Iranian midget.

Go bugger yourself. And that goes double for your British enablers.

re: #27 Kosh's Shadow

Islamic Union of Europe

re: #26 simonml

Of course Jesus wouldn't like DinnerJacket. Jesus was a Jew and DinnerJacket argues death for all Jews! Simple as that!

Precisely.

i really think it's high time the media just came out and declared their loyalty to Satan.

re: #28 Killgore Trout

He's an islamic end-timer.

Ohhh! Dinnerjacket!
Have I got a gift for you!

Just let me gift wrap it first.

re: #17 rick_too

Just for the record, Christ would approve of reckless foreign adventurism?

The political affairs of men were not his primary concern.

re: #25 MandyManners

I'm suddenly reminded that I gotta' clean out Petey's cage. bbiab

Be sure to use news pages that have Reuters articles printed on them.

re: #33 Sharmuta

He's an islamic end-timer.

I must be tired. I first read that as "He's an islamic egg-timer." Made me giggle.

I think last year the alternative Christmas speech was give by a chick in a burka.

re: #30 winston06

Islamic Union of Europe

Today Arabia, tomorrow Europe, the day after that, the World!
/

If anyone says peep during one of their barbarous holidays, they start rioting. Dinnerjacket and BBC4 can fuck right off.

The usual 'Alternate' C4 Christmas message is delivered by Gays, Transvestites, etc.

But remember ... Thare are none of those in Iran.

re: #17 rick_too

Just for the record, Christ would approve of reckless foreign adventurism?

no: he'd likely take great exception to the Iranian government's policy of exporting terror throughout the world...

(that *is* what you are talking about, isn't it n00b? %-)

re: #24 MrSilverDragon

If Jesus was alive today, I doubt strongly he would approve of you, Ahmadinejad.

If Jesus were here today, he would give Dinnerjacket a warm welcome... A very very warm eternal welcome to hell you evil bastard now FOAD kind of welcome.

re: #34 jcm

Ohhh! Dinnerjacket!
Have I got a gift for you!

Just let me gift wrap it first.

I think he deserves something with a little bit more firepower than that, don't you agree?

/deleted

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Here's the transcript...
In full: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's 'alternative' Christmas message

He has a bad case of Hopenchange.

Nobody forget that their Jesus Christ is not the same as the Christian Jesus Christ.

We (as Christians) believe in the Divinity of Jesus. They claimed him only as a human prophet of Allah. I cannot stress enough how huge that difference is.

Don't fall for the "similarities" argument. The religions are quite different.

Ahmadinejad was bad enough but the Hezbollah carolers was really over the top.

re: #34 jcm

Ohhh! Dinnerjacket!
Have I got a gift for you!

Just let me gift wrap it first.

Sweet...

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Oops, I forgot the change quotes...

Today, the general will of nations is calling for fundamental change. This is now taking place. Demands for change, demands for transformation, demands for a return to human values are fast becoming the foremost demands of the nations of the world. The response to these demands must be real and true. The prerequisite to this change is a change in goals, intentions and directions. If tyrannical goals are repackaged in an attractive and deceptive package and imposed on nations again, the people, awakened, will stand up against them.

Change!

The communists (and their unknowing sympathizers) in Britain (and the West in general) will gobble up Ahmadinejad's message with glee. He knows exactly which Marxist buzzwords to use to give all the Western traitors that funny feeling in the pants.

Think Ahmadinejad and his advisors are stupid? Think again. He's using the West's own pathology against it. Of course, he uses this verbiage to cover up his own utterly totalitarian mindset. But hey, let's not facts spoil the atmosphere! He used our buzzwords! Swoon.

re: #44 Macker

I think he deserves something with a little bit more firepower than that, don't you agree?

/deleted

JDAM?
One will do the trick 3m CEP.

Translation, they hit within 9 ft. of the target.

re: #45 simonml

Judaism and Christianity are true religions. The RoPMA™ is a death cult.

re: #46 Opinionated

Ahmadinejad was bad enough but the Hezbollah carolers was really over the top.

And what was up with the Wookie Life Day?

re: #41 Pass The Moonbaticide

The usual 'Alternate' C4 Christmas message is delivered by Gays, Transvestites, etc.

But remember ... Thare are none of those in Iran.

is it too much to hope that someone delivers a C4 Christmas message to Dinnerjacket?

/white smoke

The British are worse than the Persian shoe. So many of them deserve the fate they are setting themselves up for. Stupidity always rewards itself.

Where's Moses and a few nicely placed plagues when you need them?

God save the queen
The fascist islamic regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb

God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future
No future for you

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
Cuz tourists are money
Our figure head
Is not what she seems

Oh god save history
God save your mad parade
Oh lord god have mercy
All crimes are paid

When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming

No future, no future
No future for you
No future, no future
No future, no future for me

No future, no future
No future for you
No future, no future for you

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

re: #47 doriangrey

Sweet...

A couple years ago the Indy 500 fly-over was a B-2.. Never even heard it coming and then.. WoW! it was right over the track.
So cool

re: #39 Kosh's Shadow

over our dead bodies

re: #52 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

And what was up with the Wookie Life Day?

Oh God, not THAT again!

Unbelievable. What the hell is wrong with Channel 4?

That's easy...It's not only allowed, It is encouraged by the UK Parliament...all that PCness and happy holiday cheer...

re: #38 Killgore Trout

I think last year the alternative Christmas speech was give by a chick in a burka.

That was in 2006, and she actually backed out of it when it got controversial:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Just answering Charles' question about what is wrong with the British channel 4 ...

Heh - the same thing that is wrong with the Guardian, the same thing that is wrong with LLL MSM. Moonbats own playground, thats what it is ...

Now I'll go and read what you've all posted!

re: #57 HoosierHoops

A couple years ago the Indy 500 fly-over was a B-2.. Never even heard it coming and then.. WoW! it was right over the track.
So cool

Part of Stealth, they quieted it as much as the could, sensitive microphones can hear planes at 40k, in a very quiet spot you can hear planes up that high. They also mask as much of the heat signature as possible.

OT...

Steady snow for the last 8 hours.

re: #63 jcm

Part of Stealth, they quieted it as much as the could, sensitive microphones can hear planes at 40k, in a very quiet spot you can hear planes up that high. They also mask as much of the heat signature as possible.

It flew really low.. I was really surprised how big that sucker is.

Take a good look folks. This is a glimpse of the fairness doctrine in action.

We all know the true message:

"Silence! I keel you!"

re: #57 HoosierHoops

A couple years ago the Indy 500 fly-over was a B-2.. Never even heard it coming and then.. WoW! it was right over the track.
So cool

Yup, nothing like being able to deliver death that nobody can see hear smell or feel coming.

May channel 4 get the Christmas gift of negligible ratings, declining profits, and a embarrassment of riches in the form of protest letters and emails.
Merry Christmas you traitorous pieces of slime.

re: #55 summergurl

Where's Moses and a few nicely placed plagues when you need them?

Some day

re: #65 HoosierHoops

It flew really low.. I was really surprised how big that sucker is.

That's what she said!

Sorry. Couldn't resist it...

That's what she said again

re: #56 beermeister

Might as well enjoy the music too:

God Save the Queen

re: #61 Charles

They should let Pat Condell do one.

Ever notice there's no islamic corellary to "Peace on Earth, goodwill towards men"?

Of all people to deliver such an address, Ahmamadjihad should simply be off the list. This was enough of a joke when it was the Brit convert in full niqab.

re: #73 Killgore Trout

They should let Pat Condell do one.

Heads would be exploding every where!

I love it!

re: #72 Ringo the Gringo

Might as well enjoy the music too:

God Save the Queen

With this stuff being broadcast in England, He'll have to; the British won't.

One of the two supportive comments (out of 15) to this story at the timesonline site:

I agree his sentiments and how refreshing it is to read Ahmadinejad's comments. The similarities between Islam and Christianity are obvious albeit most of us do not recognise this. Possibly we are (generally) at the beginning of an age of Morality. Greed for power and money creates conflict.

James Smith, Croydon, UK

Stunningly delusional.

Aww, I know its nice to bash Brits - but may I politely remind you that Channel 4 is not watched by the majority of Brits - its something for 'intellectuals' who behave like naughty children.

The vast majority of the UK will, as always, watch The Queen

Oh - and just a teeny reminder; where was it that dinenrjacket was invited to a festive gala dinner recently? With lots of prominent donors, from the B0 camp?
Not in the UK, iirc ...

blah blah...more choke an spit...the whole friggin MSM is going to wake up one day stark naked wondering wtf happened...I hoped their shocked senseless

re: #77 Opilio

One of the two supportive comments (out of 15) to this story at the timesonline site:

Stunningly delusional.

James Smith of Croydon, UK will be killed last by the Caliphate

/

re: #74 dahozho
Sorry, looks like I'm wrong about that other address.
Did that 'chick' (how can you tell? :) ) really back out? I thought I'd seen a transcript of her foul speech... although it could've been any of those "moderates" who all have the same hating soundbites.

What's amazing is there would outrage if Channel 4 had asked George Bush to deliver the alternative Christmas message, but ask a dictator of a theocratic police state and much of Britain just shrugs.

Pathetic.

re: #78 yma o hyd

Aww, I know its nice to bash Brits - but may I politely remind you that Channel 4 is not watched by the majority of Brits - its something for 'intellectuals' who behave like naughty children.

The vast majority of the UK will, as always, watch The Queen

Oh - and just a teeny reminder; where was it that dinenrjacket was invited to a festive gala dinner recently? With lots of prominent donors, from the B0 camp?
Not in the UK, iirc ...

Good reminder. Most Brits would get very upset if Muslims tried to take away their beer.

re: #76 Kosh's Shadow

With this stuff being broadcast in England, He'll have to; the British won't.

Oi!

Except for a handful of London Intelligenstia nobody else will be watching that POS in the UK - and do please remember that the people here, like in your country, are not as they're described and 'represented' in the FMSM!

re: #49 zombie

i seem to recall Khrushchev telling the west something about this

Sgt. Major Andrew Stockton gave the Christmas message last year.

Channel 4's alternative Christmas message will be delivered by a former soldier who lost his arm during fighting in Afghanistan.

Sergeant Major Andrew Stockton will tell viewers about his experiences on the frontline and urge the public to support Britain's returning troops.

It will be the broadcaster's 15th alternative Christmas message, a slot previously taken by speakers including Brigitte Bardot, Ali G, Marge Simpson and the parents of murdered teenager, Stephen Lawrence.

Sgt Maj Stockton's arm was severed by a rocket-propelled grenade as he went to the aid of fellow soldiers ambushed in Helmand Province in June 2006. The 40-year-old was medically discharged from the Royal Artillery in September.

Remember, the British soldiers fighting alongside us have served well and sacrificed also, no matter how poorly they've been served by their politicians and forgotten by some of their countrymen. Some of them (soldiers) aren't too pleased about this either.

i get a bad feeling that come next election the BNP are going to gain alot of power

re: #84 yma o hyd

Oi!

Except for a handful of London Intelligenstia nobody else will be watching that POS in the UK - and do please remember that the people here, like in your country, are not as they're described and 'represented' in the FMSM!

Thanks for reminding me.

re: #83 Kosh's Shadow

Good reminder. Most Brits would get very upset if Muslims tried to take away their beer.

And our bacon butties - mustn't forget those!
And Pork Scratchings - a well-loved Pub Food, accompanying our Beers and Ales to perfection!

re: #78 yma o hyd

Aww, I know its nice to bash Brits - but may I politely remind you that Channel 4 is not watched by the majority of Brits - its something for 'intellectuals' who behave like naughty children.

The vast majority of the UK will, as always, watch The Queen

Oh - and just a teeny reminder; where was it that dinenrjacket was invited to a festive gala dinner recently? With lots of prominent donors, from the B0 camp?
Not in the UK, iirc ...

ROTFLMAO... Oh please, just because the US has more than it's fair share of suicidal imbeciles doesn't mean we don't get to laugh and make fun of the UK's suicidal imbeciles... ;p

I just love it when people use special occasions to remind me why I hate them.

re: #86 JHW

Sgt. Major Andrew Stockton gave the Christmas message last year.

Remember, the British soldiers fighting alongside us have served well and sacrificed also, no matter how poorly they've been served by their politicians and forgotten by some of their countrymen. Some of them (soldiers) aren't too pleased about this either.

Thank you!

Is Channel 4 supported by government funds, taxes the way the Beeb is?

Render unto Ahmanutjob, what is Ahmanutjob's.

GG Channel 4. Heard they're having Prussian Blue do a musical number for Passover, too.

re: #90 doriangrey

Sorreee - am perhaps a tad touchy regarding that particular theme ...

Merry Christmas to you!

re: #86 JHW

Sgt. Major Andrew Stockton gave the Christmas message last year.

Remember, the British soldiers fighting alongside us have served well and sacrificed also, no matter how poorly they've been served by their politicians and forgotten by some of their countrymen. Some of them (soldiers) aren't too pleased about this either.

A tribute to British Soldiers

Please Remember Me

re: #93 realwest

Is Channel 4 supported by government funds, taxes the way the Beeb is?

Not certain, but I think all television and radio in the UK are the beeb...

re: #93 realwest

Is Channel 4 supported by government funds, taxes the way the Beeb is?

No - its a commercial TV station, supported by income from advertisements.
It was supposed to be 'arty' and highbrow, when it was first installed ...

re: #97 doriangrey
Well then I'm wondering if Channel 4 couldn't be brought up before the Hate Crimes Tribunal for broadcasting this horrifying crap?

re: #98 yma o hyd
Then my question in #99 is even more pertinent, I would think.

re: #92 yma o hyd

You are very welcome. I loved Michael Yon's articles articles about his serving with British troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan. They are first rate troops, and their bravery and sacrifice, along with our Canadian, Australian, Danish , Dutch and other allies serving on the sharp end will be remembered gratefully by me and I hope many others.

re: #97 doriangrey

Not certain, but I think all television and radio in the UK are the beeb...

No, On my visit to UK in 1999-2000 BBC-1 and BBC-2 had no commercials. Channel 4 did.

re: #95 yma o hyd

Sorreee - am perhaps a tad touchy regarding that particular theme ...

Merry Christmas to you!

ROTFLMAO... No worries, no offense taken. And please, a very Merry Christmas to you and yours as well... ;) Now if I can just keep my danged cat out of my Baileys Irish cream... Dang cat... someone remind me why I have a cat? ;p

re: #102 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty! Then do you think my question in #99 is even more pertinent since it was a privately owned TV station that aired this hateful message?!

re: #103 doriangrey
I think YOU ought not leave that Ice Cream out where the cat can get at it! LOL!

re: #97 doriangrey

Not certain, but I think all television and radio in the UK are the beeb...

Nope.
There are the Independent TV stations, which are commercial, advertisements and such, and there is SKY TV, with even more advertisement and you've gotta buy their satellite dish and converter box.

There are any number of local commercial radio stations.

But yeah, the Beeb, for which we pay our effen licence fee, is still the biggest and very heavily biased towards NuLab.

Channel 4 just wanted to follow up one Queen with another.

And we all know Mahdy is FABULOOOUS!

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS, LIZARDS

-WFH

re: #99 realwest

Well then I'm wondering if Channel 4 couldn't be brought up before the Hate Crimes Tribunal for broadcasting this horrifying crap?

because that only applies to non muslims,

muslims can do whatever the hell they want in England.

They need a countdown clock to the official handover to Saudi Arabia ala Hong Kong.

30 years should do

re: #96 Dustyvet

Man, thanks for that Dusty, I saved it to my computer. I hope these young people are never forgotten.

re: 72 Ringo the Gringo

Good video. The Sex Pistols actually sound good live in that clip. I like them and that whole rock period, The Clash, The Jam, The Damned, Buzzcocks, Joy Division, Wire, X, et al. And, of course, their precursor The Ramones.

re: #102 Dustyvet

No, On my visit to UK in 1999-2000 BBC-1 and BBC-2 had no commercials. Channel 4 did.

But to watch Telly in the UK, you must have a TV License, and they have vans that go out and discover unlicensed telly's. Then one gets fined 1500 GBP's

Regarding the treatment of Christians under the islamic (spit) republic of iran, I doubt Jesus would approve:

[Link: www.voanews.com...]

Incredible. Sickening. Frightening. Anti-Christian.

re: #99 realwest

Well then I'm wondering if Channel 4 couldn't be brought up before the Hate Crimes Tribunal for broadcasting this horrifying crap?

Nope - its run under a sort of licenced (by the government) agreement with the input from the other independent, commercial TV stations - can't be simply bought off, unfortunately.

The public chooses, via the remote control, not to watch that crap.

Well y'all I outta here for lunch, not that I have much appetite.
In case I don't see any of you down the road today/tonight, I wish all of you and yours a very Merry Christmas!
And I do hope I get the chance to see you all down the road.

re: #113 wiles

Incredible. Sickening. Frightening. Anti-Christian.

shush don't say that too loud, you might get Channel 4 excited.

Channel 4...isn't that the one owned by Neville Chamberlain's family ?

re: #109 JHW

Man, thanks for that Dusty, I saved it to my computer. I hope these young people are never forgotten.

Your welcome.

Here's one for our lads.

In the Arms of an Angel - American Soldiers Tribute

re: #119 buzzsawmonkey

'Twas the night before Christmas, and straight from Iran
Ahmedinejad rambled, as only he can;
Though not a believer in Jesus per se
He spun Jesus' message the Islamic way
And lectured the Britons on what he would do
And what he would disapprove of, and of who
Jesus would select as objects of his wrath
(I.e., everyone in Ahmedinejad's path).
Britons scratched their heads, saying, "Why should we care?
Why does the BBC Channel 4 grant him time on the air?
It's not as though he's a believer in Christ
So why give him a forum to try and make nice?
We're celebrating the birth of a redeemer,
So why listen to this hostile Persian schemer?
To put this buffoon on a par with the Queen
Is more than absurd; it's really obscene."
And I heard them all say, as they turned off their sets,
"It's the stupidest thing BBC Channel 4has done yet."

Poetic licence and all, but hey, its not the Beeb, for once, who is putting a t*rd into the punchbowl ... so i had to corect this ...

re: #118 Dustyvet

Again, thanks,saved that one too. I saw a similar one for Danish soldiers but I can't find it right now.

Have to comment about this. The notion of asking Ahmadinejad to deliver a Christmas message is screwed up on so many levels that I felt like puking when I saw the report. Shame on Channel 4.

To this pathetic little twit, Jesus Christ is no more and no less than the murdering pedophile that he admires.

Just so much crap from a very small crapper.

it is so wrong to allow a murderous savage to use our sacred joyous holiday, as a means to malign the civilized world.

re: 114 yma o hyd

I like British culture/history.

Bass, Boddingtons, Fuller's, Samuel Smith.

Delicious

re: #77 Opilio

One of the two supportive comments (out of 15) to this story at the timesonline site:

(etc.)

Stunningly delusional.

Then there's this idiot:

What an apt and timely inter-faith message. Ahmadinejad has demonstrated great humanity and grace. I shall be tuning in.

These folks desperately need to read Ze'ev Maghen's excellent From Omnipotence to Impotence: A Shift in the Iranian Portrayal of the "Zionist Regime"(previously linked here - I think - and elsewhere,) especially the first paragraphs and the closing sentence.

re: #91 rawmuse

That is what makes me VERY angry. They seem thoughtless on even displaying any social etiquette.
This is a deliberate and direct Fuck You to the Christian and Judaic celebrants of their Holidays.
**SPIT** re: #91 rawmuse

I just love it when people use special occasions to remind me why I hate them.

re: #91 rawmuse

I just love it when people use special occasions to remind me why I hate them.

Ta Dah! It's pain-in-the-bastard-day!

There'll Always Be an England

I'm disgusted. It was one thing that they decided in years past, for noble enough reasons, to subvert Christmas subtly and mock the function of the Queen's Speech such as with a message from a muslimah. It is another thing allowing a clearly propagandist message from Ahmadinejad on grounds it is merely an "alternative to the Queen's Speech". I would hope the MoD is doing its best to intervene, and I will be taking a break from the channel.

re: #126 beermeister

re: 114 yma o hyd

I like British culture/history.

Bass, Boddingtons, Fuller's, Samuel Smith.

Delicious

'Tis indeed. They know nothing of the sacred and thus can have no joy.

Dustyvet, if you're still around, I wish a Merry Christmas to you especially as a fellow ex-Old Reliable. I found the Tribute to Fallen Danish Soldiers video.

re: #133 wiles

'Tis indeed. They know nothing of the sacred and thus can have no joy.

Oops, wrong quote. Meant to quote this:

re: #125 nyc redneck

it is so wrong to allow a murderous savage to use our sacred joyous holiday, as a means to malign the civilized world.

re: #135 JHW

Dustyvet, if you're still around, I wish a Merry Christmas to you especially as a fellow ex-Old Reliable. I found the Tribute to Fallen Danish Soldiers video.

And a Merry Christmas to you JHW, thanks for posting that.

re: #13 MandyManners

Better than coal in ShortShit's stocking.

A Patriot missle down his chimney would be even better.

“If Christ was on Earth today undoubtedly he would hoist the banner of justice and love for humanity to oppose warmongers, occupiers, terrorists and bullies the world over. If Christ was on Earth today undoubtedly he would fight against the tyrannical policies of prevailing global economic and political systems, as He did in His lifetime.”

Actually I don't disagree at all with this statement per se. It's just that people who say things like "if Christ were [not 'was'!] alive today, then ..." usually are at the top of the list of those he would condemn, if he were alive today.

And then, of course, there's the not-so-picky theological point that according to the Christian Church, Christ is very much alive today and it's up to human beings to manifest his love and mercy in the world as it is, not to wait around for him to come back and set everything right. That will happen too, but then it will be too late for the waiters (er, waitstaff?).

As to Channel 4, their picking Dinnerjacket to give an "alternative" Christmas message is like giving David Duke a follow-up opportunity to a speech by Elie Wiesel.

What an ignoramus. Jesus wasn't political. He also wasn't a community organizer, as some on the left would like to believe.

re: #138 Cygnus

A Patriot missle down his chimney would be even better.

Specially if it's armed with a nuke... Wouldn't want him being accidentally spared by a table or anything.

re: #127 Clemente

"The prevailing opinion among Middle East experts and Iran watchers,
however, is that the revised rhetoric is just that – rhetoric, and that it
harbors no significant ramifications for policy making in Israel, the
region, or the world."

This is the prevailing wisdom of much of the media (channel 4) in their utter failure to grasp the true danger of Islamofacism.

re: #34 jcm

Ohhh! Dinnerjacket!
Have I got a gift for you!

Just let me gift wrap it first.

Same day delivery, too. Courtesy of the USAF. Enjoy, you little twit.

re: #138 Cygnus

A Patriot missle down his chimney would be even better.

Nope, to quick. Let Dinner jacket go out with a noose around his neck, made from that cheap blue plastic rope, and a nice ride up on the arm of a construction crane.

re: #144 Dustyvet

Nope, to quick. Let Dinner jacket go out with a noose around his neck, made from that cheap blue plastic rope, and a nice ride up on the arm of a construction crane.

Or let the little shit be stoned.

re: #140 ladycatnip

What an ignoramus. Jesus wasn't political. He also wasn't a community organizer, as some on the left would like to believe.

No kidding. If that were the worst of Dickmadinejad's sins, we could deal with it rationally. But this guy is satanic. Seriously evil.

re: #125 nyc redneck

it is so wrong to allow a murderous savage to use our sacred joyous holiday, as a means to malign the civilized world.

Once again, it seems you're in my head.

For this Dinnerjacket to presume to speak for what Christ would "undoubtedly" do if He were on earth today, and for the BBC to air it, is just so awesomely despicable, it's beyond words.

re: #17 rick_too

Just for the record, Christ would approve of reckless foreign adventurism?

Pat Buchanan... is that you?

re: #147 reine.de.tout

Once again, it seems you're in my head.

For this Dinnerjacket to presume to speak for what Christ would "undoubtedly" do if He were on earth today, and for the BBC to air it, is just so awesomely despicable, it's beyond words.

Channel 4 UK web site is down, I fon't think Channel 4 UK has any link to the BBC.

but...but...splutter...spit...

Don't the British remember the humiliation Iran inflicted on them by capturing their marines at sea and forcing them to make propaganda videos?
Dhimmitude at its finest.
Somewhere, Chuchill, Lord Nelson, Mountbatten, Francis Drake and Field Marshal Montgomery are weeping.

re: #103 doriangrey

Dang cat... someone remind me why I have a cat? ;p

'Cause an elephant would crush the couch when it curled up to go to sleep?

As to Dinnerjacket...1 M-24. 5 rounds .300 Winchester match, and a good spotter. Problem solved.

re: #152 Cdat88

'Cause an elephant would crush the couch when it curled up to go to sleep?

As to Dinnerjacket...1 M-24. 5 rounds .300 Winchester match, and a good spotter. Problem solved.

To much ambiguity not enough OH Shit we really fucked up...

Some of my other posts were more lighthearted, but this really is an outrage. Muhammed is the antithesis of Christ. A of Iran and Channel 4 in Dhimmi Island are sickening.

A sad and stark comparison between Christ and the other guy.

[Link: www.balaams-ass.com...]

Destroy the iranian mullahs. Call it a crusade just to infuriate the dhimmis within.

I doubt that Jesus would approve of the oppression of women, the merciless murder of citizens and cries of Death to Israel. Nor would He cry out for the death of homosexuals. Rather, Jesus would remind Achmadinejad that He died for even the lowest of the low, to gain salvation and that would include the little Iranian nutjob himself. Glory be to God and Peace to His people on earth.

Channel four chooses the leader of an Islamic state that oppresses Christians and Jews to present the "alternative Christmas address." If it were 1944 they probably would have asked Hitler to do it. Un-freaking-believable!

re: #145 Dustyvet

I'm all in favour of the Islamic display of throwing shoes at him first and then pushing him off the Dubai tower, tallest building in the world...

Probably someone above has already said it, but here goes:

Christ lived in an occupied territory, ruled by a bullying, war loving empire. Jesus lived in one of the most militant, expansionist, colonizing, tyrannical societies the world has ever known. The closest he came to politics or commenting about this despotic power was, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's."

He forgave the woman caught in adultery and about to be stoned, sending her on her way. When did Mohammad do that?

He said to love your enemies and to do good to those who mistreat you. When did Mohammad do that?

Peter took up a sword to defend Jesus. Jesus rebuked Peter and told him to throw down his sword. When did Mohammad tell anyone that?

undoubtedly akmedinnerjacket is right.

if jesus were here again he would do all that akmadinnerjacket is saying.

only, akmadinnerjacket would be the first on gods list to be opposed and brought to justice.

Okay dorian, i just am a big fan of seeing the results of my work. How about a live internet feed from the scope on the weapon? After the team clears off, and the folks around Dinnerjacket are running like ants, bring on the Spirit's.

It can be like Dickens. Just name the bombers Past, Present and Future...

"If Christ were alive" indeed! At least the madman from Iran has the good taste to say if "Christ were on Earth". The media is only too ready to offend the essential parts of the Christian faith.

I wonder if they were dare say "if Mohammed ever lived"?

These are typical of the posts which appeared in the Times regarding this issue:

What an apt and timely inter-faith message. Ahmadinejad has demonstrated great humanity and grace. I shall be tuning in.
Alex McGregor, Plymouth,UK

I agree his sentiments and how refreshing it is to read Ahmadinejad's comments. The similarities between Islam and Christianity are obvious albeit most of us do not recognise this. Possibly we are (generally) at the beginning of an age of Morality. Greed for power and money creates conflict. James Smith, Croydon, UK

If Winston Churchill were alive today to read these letters, he would weep after biting through his cigar.

re: #161 Cdat88

Okay dorian, i just am a big fan of seeing the results of my work. How about a live internet feed from the scope on the weapon? After the team clears off, and the folks around Dinnerjacket are running like ants, bring on the Spirit's.

It can be like Dickens. Just name the bombers Past, Present and Future...

That notion warms the cockles of my hearts
Maybe below the cockles,
Maybe in the sub cockle area,
Maybe in the liver, maybe in the kidneys,
Maybe even in the colon...

Consider this classical idea: you become what you say - and do.

The extreme irony of ImaDinnerJacket's speech is that it actuallydescribes Iranian and Caliphate politics wildest dreams - about themselves. Who else could fit their own bill as perfectly in the "bullying expansionist etc" department, lining themselves up next to be hated by JC?

You can see other examples of this reflexive ironay abounding - say in the behaviour of Californian "anti gay-hate" practitioners. When you hate hatred, in other words, you have just successfuly hoist yourself on your own IED.

Even when it comes disguised as lovin' 'n carin' - "There is only one thing I hate: racism" - with a racist's hatred.

A little historical contexthistorical context here is a good thing... Maybe, if they know their history, the British would gain something from this speech.
Even if it's only that Ahmadinejad is an idiot.

Dorian, I have not heard that song in many a moon. Thanks for bringing it back to mind.

re: #78 yma o hyd

Aww, I know its nice to bash Brits - but may I politely remind you that Channel 4 is not watched by the majority of Brits - its something for 'intellectuals' who behave like naughty children.

The vast majority of the UK will, as always, watch The Queen

Oh - and just a teeny reminder; where was it that dinenrjacket was invited to a festive gala dinner recently? With lots of prominent donors, from the B0 camp

Not in the UK, iirc ...

You're right. Sorry, Yma. However, you must admit that it's fun to rant and to throw shoes at the bad guys. The UK happens to be the target for the day. Tomorrow there will be other fools to laugh at.

Please don't take it personally. Most of us love the Brits and some even have close British relatives. ;-)

Oops. a dead thread.

A UK based Iranian blogger reacts to Dinnerjacket message

[Link: azarmehr.blogspot.com...]

re: #169 Promethea

not really

We should take a minute to remember why these rejoinders were started.
They started in the USA. They started during the first term of Pres. Ronald W. Reagan. The lefties in the press were aghast at how Pres. Reagan connected to the people, and so, they said 'fairness dictates that when the Pres gives a SOTU speech, the democrats must be given equal time" to debate or challenge the speech. So we are twenty five years down the libnut rabbit hole, so it was only a matter of time that evil dictators get to give XMas cheer to Anglophiles. I only wonder why Mugabe wasn't booked for the show? Maybe he had ring around the cholera?

From the Glorious "Peoples' Republic of Chapel Hill, NC (aka as UNC-Chapel Hill):

Iranians honor UNC scholar
Ahmadinejad will present the award
[Link: www.newsobserver.com...]

Just read through the comments.

Channel 4 is a commercial company paid for by advertising revenue but does receive a subsidy which comes out of the licence fee which funds the BBC.

As to the anti-Brit comments, time again to re-iterate, life in the very moonbat media does not mirror life for the ordinary Brit. As I said on the newer post on this, hopefully this will embolden the mad mullahs here to get too big for their boots and let people see a more real side to them rather than the 'victimised misunderstood Asian' which the leftys portray them in the media as.

The Qur'an speaks of Jesus, but not of Jesus [the] Christ. The Christ is the Messiah, the Savior. That's what the word means. The Muslim Jesus was "merely" a messenger.

Surely referring to Jesus as the Christ must be blasphemous under Iranian law. Surely it represents a rejection of monotheism. Surely Ahmedinijad must be stoned.

Let's start a petition.