MUST I say it?

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Chutzpah!

Most children over the age of four know that nobody buys the "they started it" argument.

At least they didn't trot out "The Devil Made Me Do It" defense.

Increasing stupidity of Israel

This is hard to argue with.

The stupidity of Israel isn't "forcing" them to launch rockets though... but it certainly is allowing them to.

Israel Made Us Attack Them by being ,,, well,,,, Israel , and Jews well ,, yeah , thats it !

Mideast expert Dan Diker says Hamas wants to create a strategic balance of power with Israel

*snicker* Good luck with that.

/more like tempting fate a ground invasion with air supremacy

It's the Joooooos! It's all a conspiracy!

/

“The increasing stupidity of Israel is forcing us to intensify the rocket fire, and put thousands more Zionists in the line of fire in order to protect the Palestinian people,” a spokesperson for group’s military wing said.

Ah, because the Israelis would be sure to attack Gaza if there were no attacks coming from it.

/

Hamas stealing the age old excuse of wife beaters.

a spokesperson for group’s military wing said.

In that their "military wing" uses civilian housesd to fire from, can they be called the Chicken Wing?

Fuck it, drive them into the Sinai.

Why make excuses for why Hamas wants to kill Israelis? The FMSM will cover for them anyway.

(Santa is in Gori, Georgia, right now!)

Israel is forcing Hamas to continue holding Gilad Shalit too? They captured Shalit in order to force Israel to release hundreds of Palestinian terrorists, and when Israel refused to kowtow to the demands, the terrorists continue to hold him for more than 2.5 years.

The media continues to play useful idiots for Hamas, and Hamas knows that the media will not question Hamas propagandists who willingly portray Hamas as fighting a heroic struggle against the Israelis, even as Hamas fires kassams and mortars against Israeli civilians, plots terror attacks and invasions of its neighbors to further its own nihilistic agenda (all while the media focuses on Israel's measured and limited self-defense).

Hamas yet again question's Israel's existence - noting simply that Israel wouldn't come under rocket fire if it didn't exist. "Putting Zionists in the line of fire" would happen if the Zionists weren't there in the first place.

Thing is, Hamas will repeat that line ad nauseum regardless of the range of their rockets and missiles. If they had rockets that could hit the Golan from Gaza, they'd complain that the Zionists were in range and it was Israel's fault for being in the way.

It's Hamas' genocidal intent that shines through, and yet the media refuses to question this, but plays mouthpiece and regurgitates Hamas' genocidal intent.

re: #14 yma o hyd

(Santa is in Gori, Georgia, right now!)

[Link: www.noradsanta.org...]

Sorreee - forgot linkie ...

Can't they even lie good?

re: #14 yma o hyd

(Santa is in Gori, Georgia, right now!)

Is that anywhere near Atlanta? It's WAY too early for him to be here ! (2:20 P.M) My son won't be asleep for at least 9 hours from now!

I had to read that twice to see if I missed something...I didn't....why is whazzizface in Damascus?

Israel should tell that sh*head, Khaled Mashal, that they have a rocket it his name on it too.....and anyone else that claims to be the leader of Hamas.

Let's give them a state!™

“The increasing stupidity of Israel is forcing us to intensify the rocket fire, and put thousands more Zionists in the line of fire in order to protect the Palestinian people,” a spokesperson for group’s military wing said."

Famous Jews Interactive

Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

[Link: famous.heebz.com...]

You cannot negotiate a peaceful settlement with someone who believes that your mere existence is an affront to them. These rantings are the protests of a child who will not stop until they get their way - logic does not apply.

This stance by Hamas will of coures be swalloed whole by the FMSM, because if 'Israel makes them do it', its quite obvious that they, Hamas are the true victims, because they can't help themselves - just like any other criminal today couldn't help himself or ehrself.

The true victim, the one who is really blleding and kicked to death - no pity, no mercy for him or her!
FMSM have taught us by now that the real victim is always the guilty one - he or she 'made the agressor do it'.

*spit*

I agree, it is the increased stupidity of the Israelis, if they refuse to retaliate appropriately - by which I mean, until it is effective, that is (it is important to spell things out), until the attacks stop.

People who deal with domestic violence have heard it before: Bitch made me hit her.

re: #22 ted

“The increasing stupidity of Israel is forcing us to intensify the rocket fire, and put thousands more Zionists in the line of fire in order to protect the Palestinian people,” a spokesperson for group’s military wing said."

Famous Jews Interactive

Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

[Link: famous.heebz.com...]

And, here's the list of famous Palestinian Nobel Prize Winners:

Yasser Arafat - known terrorist, liar, and kleptocrat

re: #18 sattv4u2

Is that anywhere near Atlanta? It's WAY too early for him to be here ! (2:20 P.M) My son won't be asleep for at least 9 hours from now!

Nope, thats the place Putin invaded, ahem - pacified this summer ...

This is off topic I just wanted to wish you all a Merry Christmas. I do not post often but I come here several times a day. I'm very thankful for this site and the truth it offers.

re: #30 mermaid

This is off topic I just wanted to wish you all a Merry Christmas. I do not post often but I come here several times a day. I'm very thankful for this site and the truth it offers.

Merry Christmas to you, too!

re: #30 mermaid

Cheers!

re: #21 ArchangelMichael

Let's give them a state!™

I vote for decomposing

re: #28 Desert Dog

You forgot: "Known Sodomite."

re: #18 sattv4u2

Is that anywhere near Atlanta? It's WAY too early for him to be here ! (2:20 P.M) My son won't be asleep for at least 9 hours from now!

Don't tell your son.......

The Physics of Santa Claus

No known species of reindeer can fly. BUT there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer which only Santa has ever seen.

There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since Santa doesn't (appear) to handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total - 378 million according to the Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census rate of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes. One presumes there's at least one good child in each.

Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, and assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of his sleigh, jump down the chimnye, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course we know to be false but for the purpose of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking aabout .78 miles per household, a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours, plus feeding and etc.This means that Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second, 3000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second - a conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.

The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized lego set (2 pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 punds. Even granting that "flying reindeer" (refer to point #1) could pull TEN TIMES the normal load, we cannot do the job with eight, or even nine. We need 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload - not even counting the weight of the sleigh - 353,430 tons. Again, for comparison - this is four times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth.

353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance - this will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as spacecrafts re-entereing the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy per SECOND, EACH! In short, hey will burst into flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them, and create a deafening sonic boom in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousanths of a second. Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to centrifugal* forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250 pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.

re: #30 mermaid

This is off topic I just wanted to wish you all a Merry Christmas. I do not post often but I come here several times a day. I'm very thankful for this site and the truth it offers.

Ya want to give us a Christmas Gift? POST MORE ! !

re: #30 mermaid

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

re: #35 jcm

Don't tell your son.......

That'll be easy ,,,seeing i'm not going to read all that !

j/k

re: #28 Desert Dog

And, here's the list of famous Palestinian Nobel Prize Winners:

Yasser Arafat - known terrorist, liar, and kleptocrat

Impressive those Palestineans.

re: #34 Macker

You forgot: "Known Sodomite."

Not that there's anything wrong with that....

re: #30 mermaid

Merry Christmas to you too, Mermaid!

re: #34 Macker

You forgot: "Known Sodomite Goat Humper."

accuracy in media

re: #38 sattv4u2

Don't tell your son.......

That'll be easy ,,,seeing i'm not going to read all that !

j/k

LOL!

WOW. Not only do we control Obama but we can force Hamas to do our bidding too.

Now if we only used all that power for good instead of evil.

The Devil Made Me Do It

-Golden Earring

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

To take something so sweet and turn it into something so foul--what a talent you have. Your very act of creation mirrors the destruction wrought by those you mock. Well done.

this blabola gets less serious every time...may Hamas is losing their patience...haha!...maybe they will finally blow and take down their Jewish masters....one can only hope...

re: #4 FurryOldGuyJeans

At least they didn't trot out "The Devil Made Me Do It" defense.

That would however be the first time that excuse was true...

re: #47 albusteve

this blabola gets less serious every time...may Hamas is losing their patience...haha!...maybe they will finally blow and take down their Jewish masters....one can only hope...

WTF!?!?!?

re: #49 sattv4u2

WTF!?!?!?

what?

Israel needs the sign I have on my shop door!
"The likelihood that you are being watched is directly proportionate to the stupidity of your actions"!

re: #28 Desert Dog

And, here's the list of famous Palestinian Nobel Prize Winners:

Yasser Arafat - known terrorist, liar, and kleptocrat

Hey now, you know he was just doing his very best to follow the example Mohammad set for him.

Israel decides that are not going to do anything effective:

It came after the Security Cabinet approved the security establishment's recommendation that Israel respond to rocket attacks at the time and scale of its choosing. A media blackout was placed on the other details of the Security Cabinet discussion.

Nevertheless, Channel 1 reported that while the cabinet decided that there would be response, it ruled out retaking the Strip.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Dashing through the sand, with a bomb strapped to my back....

re: #51 albusteve

what?

read what you wrote ,, THATS what

This is just another good example of why the Palestinians have nothing, and will always have nothing, until they can grow up.

Will someone please remind me why Israel keeps agreeing to these farcical "truces" anymore?

re: #57 looking closely

This is just another good example of why the Palestinians have nothing, and will always have nothing, until they can grow up.

Will someone please remind me why Israel keeps agreeing to these farcical "truces" anymore?

I would if I could but I can't so i won't!

re: #56 sattv4u2

read what you wrote ,, THATS what

Im no fan of Hamas...quite the contrary

re: #19 BignJames

I had to read that twice to see if I missed something...I didn't....why is whazzizface in Damascus?

Because he gets to keep living there. Israel would rub him out in a heartbeat if they got the chance. Just like they would Nasrallah of Hizbullah.

/two guys who I dearly hope get to rail their 72 virgins sooner rather than later.

re: #30 mermaid

re: #57 looking closely

Because they love their children more
than they hate the enemy?

.......................must I say it.
Bizzaro World.

OK, this sounds strangely like the 30 year smoker suing the cigarette company for cancer.

Doesn't make sense there, or here for that matter

re: #59 albusteve

Im no fan of Hamas...quite the contrary

Then I suggest you re-write that phrase "one can only hope" that these savages "take down" Jews

re: #57 looking closely

This is just another good example of why the Palestinians have nothing, and will always have nothing, until they can grow up.

Will someone please remind me why Israel keeps agreeing to these farcical "truces" anymore?

well we haven't figured that out in eight years...as for me I sure hope Israel has a plan

re: #54 Opinionated

Israel decides that are not going to do anything effective:

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

What would you have Israel do?

Sure, on paper, Israel could raze Gaza, or re-occupy it, but there are political constraints to what Israel can do.

IMO, Israel should simply resume (and not discontinue) its targeting of Palestinian terrorist leadership as probably one of the most effective ways to deal with this.

re: #63 sattv4u2

Then I suggest you re-write that phrase "one can only hope" that these savages "take down" Jews

thanks but I think most people get it

why would crop dusting The Strip or East Jerusalem with birth control powder not be a bad idea?

re: #65 looking closely

What would you have Israel do?

but there are political constraints to what Israel can do.

Whatever the constraints- and I recognize them all- Israel has to be open to doing absolutely anything because protecting her citizens should trump all other considerations.

re: #17 Maximu§

Can't they even lie good?

Why should they? They have the FMSM to cover for them.

re: #50 buzzsawmonkey

Thanks!...I think.

If you could only put poison tips on them and deliver them with a bow...a cross-bow....

re: #68 Opinionated

Whatever the constraints- and I recognize them all- Israel has to be open to doing absolutely anything because protecting her citizens should trump all other considerations.

Except of course making their citizens easy targets for Palestinian freedom fighters....................... /S

re: #67 smokefire

why would crop dusting The Strip or East Jerusalem with birth control powder not be a bad idea?

Because "productive" people wouldn't be able to move in there for generations!

Seriously, the Gaza strip is some of THE Primest Real Estate in the region

In this season of giving.

My gift.

re: #72 sattv4u2

Because "productive" people wouldn't be able to move in there for generations!

Seriously, the Gaza strip is some of THE Primest Real Estate in the region

a blockbuster money maker sitting there going to waste...are there no Pali Trumps around?.....rhetorical

re: #61 reloadingisnotahobby

re: #57 looking closely

Because they love their children more
than they hate the enemy?

Its a good answer to my rhetorical question.

I think apart from the obvious insanity of doing the same thing again and again, but expecting a different outcome, the REAL reason why Israel keeps agreeing to these idiotic truces with HAMAS is because its politically expedient to do so.

For one thing, Israel is full of unrepentant liberals, who (despite all evidence to the contrary) still think that the Palestinians would "play nice" if only Israel would do the same.

And Israel simply doesn't want to be perceived as being the obstacle to peace among the rest of the world's liberals who have the same belief (again despite considerable evidence to the contrary).

So even though HAMAS invariably attacks Israel during these "truces" and Israel generally retaliates, the fig leaf of the "truce" is mutually beneficial.

re: #74 albusteve

Sun, sea, sand, screw-up residents

re: #74 albusteve

a blockbuster money maker sitting there going to waste...are there no Pali Trumps around?.....rhetorical

Actually, there are! Most have taken up residence in Kuwait ,, Qatar ,, Bahrain and instead of using their riches to make the strip a desired tourist destination, (resorts ,, casinoes,,,, etc) they give the money to Hamas/ Hezzbo et al for their war against Israel

re: #76 smokefire

Sun, sea, sand, screw-up residents

20 acres and 3 yrs and someone would generate more wealth than in all pali history

re: #77 sattv4u2

Actually, there are! Most have taken up residence in Kuwait ,, Qatar ,, Bahrain and instead of using their riches to make the strip a desired tourist destination, (resorts ,, casinoes,,,, etc) they give the money to Hamas/ Hezzbo et al for their war against Israel

I've heard there are extremely wealthy palis but I know nothing about it...too bad they dont get pinned down to explain exactly what they do for their fatherland....that would be a good one eh?

re: #68 Opinionated

Whatever the constraints- and I recognize them all- Israel has to be open to doing absolutely anything because protecting her citizens should trump all other considerations.

That's a nice generalization, and its hard to disagree with it.

But SPECIFICALLY, what would you have Israel do that it isn't already doing?

Short of annexing Gaza by force of arms, and driving all the Gazans into Egypt, personally I can't think of anything. And although that sort of action has a certain appeal, its a non-starter for any number of reasons.

Just heard on the radio today, about Israel trading slews of terrorists including one who killed a father in front of a 4 yr old daughter and then smashed her head in with a rifle butt for the REMAINS of a couple of long dead soldiers. This HAS to stop. I say trade dead bodies for dead bodies! They, like us, are losing the will to live. They would rather live in fear than go to war. Its so sad.

re: #77 sattv4u2

Actually, there are! Most have taken up residence in Kuwait ,, Qatar ,, Bahrain and instead of using their riches to make the strip a desired tourist destination, (resorts ,, casinoes,,,, etc) they give the money to Hamas/ Hezzbo et al for their war against Israel

That's out of self-interest too.

Having the place run by a corrupt kleptocracy leads to a certain ease of income. Embezzlement, legal monopolies, and nepotism are easy. Having to actually earn your money in a free marketplace? That's just work. . .work. . .work all the time.

re: #80 looking closely

But SPECIFICALLY, what would you have Israel do that it isn't already doing?

The PM must give a speech in which he clearly and specifically tells the World- not Hamas or the other barbarians but the World- that the NY Times can start writing condemning editorials and the State Dept can start issuing threats and Obama requests for restraint while the EU can call Israel all sorts of names, but they and China and Russia and anyone else have exactly 48 hours to do what they can do to force an end to attacks on Israel.

And that if those attacks don't stop Israel will launch a WAR, not a raid, but a war leading to the destruction of all Hamas forces. Any loss of life is the responsibility of the World who were impotent to prevent continuous attacks on innocent Israelis.

And if Israel has to launch that war, then it should be like 1967, no half measures and result in reversing the catastrophic Gaza withdrawal.

As radical as this sounds, the only thing worse and will result in Israel's position and security continuing to deteriorate over time is to allow the status quo to continue with half measure responses.

Of course it's Israel's fault. They (Israel) aren't dead yet, thus provoking Hamas to continue attacking. If Israel would just have the good sense to surrender all their land and kill their entire population, Hamas could stop firing the rockets. Simple, really.

Every time I ask a lefty about the missiles from Gaza they say the same thing, mostly in the form of "Well they as just kids with rocks, what else can they do?" The part where I ask "What about the fact that what Hamas is doing is a war crime", they never answer.

The increasing stupidity of Israel

Correct - they should be killing Hamas instead of supporting it with food, supplies and ceasefires

is forcing us to intensify the rocket fire,

Correct - it's been working well so far

and put thousands more Zionists in the line of fire

Correct - share the terror!

in order to protect the Palestinian people

Correct - Hamas is the duly elected representative of the Palestinian people, and peace with Israel would be a disaster for Hamas

"WHY DID YOU MAKE ME HIT YOU?!"

Is Hamas that pathetic? To justify its rockets by blaming Israel, again!

Hamas collective IQ is 55

israel is the one that has been pushed to the brink, yet holds their fire on these animals.

Thank you Charles, for being such a friend of Israel.

I wish more Lizardoids would participate in threads like this. Usually, news Charles posts supporting Israel or condemning its satanic enemies doesn't seem to always sprout lengthy feedback and comments.

Charles, you're a Hassid Umot Olam, but you already know that.

re: #15 lawhawk

Well put! Very well put.. There WILL come a day of reckoning and when that day arrives, the MSM and ALL the useful idiots like them, will have a LOT of 'splaining to do.

The blood of innocent civilians on BOTH sides drips from their spineless, politically correct, leftist/marxist pens.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

rack kack TZAHAL

re: #83 Opinionated

That ALWAYS sounds like a good idea on paper and lord knows I've espoused it myself at LEAST a 1/2 million times but the reality of the situation means that no matter what Israel does, it will be condemn world-wide.

Full blown military engagement would be yet another talking point that the arabs and their enablers can use in order to paint Israel as a war mongering, imperialistic.. (Pick a word from the lefty lexicon) nation hell bent on the destruction of those poor poor, innocent palis.

Is there any doubt that Israel could crush Hamas in no time? NO!

Would it be a propaganda defeat of epic proportions? YES!

Israel has allowed itself to be put between a rock and a hard place. Not by it's own choosing I might add, they've been maneuvered there.

The pali 'story' is all that people hear, remember or care about these days and we ALL know it's nothing but one big lie. Unfortunately, it plays very well in the arab street as well as the universities around the world and in the OP-ED pages of rags like the NYT and the Guardian. The MSM has made sure of that, along with all MANNER of leftists/marxists who are hell bent on not ONLY the destruction of Israel but that of most of western civilization to boot.

As I said before, there will be a day of reckoning where the useful idiots like the MSM and politicos like Carter will have a HUGE amount of explaining to do. I just hope it's NOT preceded by the death of Eretz Israel!

The old "Israel is uncovered meat' excuse.

my son is in the I.D.F. and the dhimmi leadershit bothers me because I fear they will put him in danger and then screw it up.

re: #76 smokefire

re: #72 sattv4u2

Because "productive" people wouldn't be able to move in there for generations!

Seriously, the Gaza strip is some of THE Primest Real Estate in the region

a blockbuster money maker sitting there going to waste...are there no Pali Trumps around?.....rhetorical

Sun, sea, sand, screw-up residents

Sun, sea, sand, and bat-sh!t crazy bloodthirsty locals!

What's not to love?

re: #88 winston06

Hamas collective IQ is 55

Awfully generous, don't you think?

;^)

We Need Another Maccabee
by Sammy Benoit

Our leaders greatly please their Hellenist kings.

Sunday night was the first night of Chanukah, the holiday with as many meanings as it has spellings. Why do we celebrate? Pick one or pick all:
Instead of remembering what Judah the Maccabee did in Modi'in, they look toward Medina.

1. A successful Jewish revolt against a Syrian empire ruled by the Seleucid dynasty of Greek kings some 2,200 years ago.

2. A revolt against assimilation and the attempt to impose Hellenistic culture on ancient Judea.

3. A celebration of the re-dedication of the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.

4. Recognition of a miracle in which one day's worth of oil burnt in the menorah for eight days.

It is the last point that relates so much to today's world. Israel is led by politicians who have no faith in the God who gave them the Land. They allow the Temple Mount - which used the be the "home" of God's Shekhinah ("Presence") and hopefully will be again soon - to be mutilated; in fact, they are willing to give it away. They do not protect Joseph's Tomb in Shechem or Rachel's Tomb in Bethlehem. They have fallen in love with Western culture and have forgotten how easily Judaism can get assimilated into it.

Ehud Olmert, Tzipi Livni and Ehud Barak have worked hard to please their Hellenist kings, George Bush and Condoleezza Rice. Instead of remembering what Judah the Maccabee did in Modi'in, they look toward Medina. Even the Shas party, which entered the government to protect Jerusalem as Jewish, sold themselves for political power.

Israel has leaders who sneak into the side entrance to so they can negotiate with people who want to destroy them, forgetting what others have learned before:

"It is incredible what political simpletons Jews are. They shut their eyes to one of the most elementary rules of life, that you must not 'meet halfway' those who do not want to meet you." -- Ze'ev Jabotinsky, "The Iron Wall", November 4, 1923

And once again, just like all of the other times, Israel has been dumped for political expediency by the Jewish
Israel has been dumped for political expediency.
People. The American Jewish Community proved their assimilation by helping to elect a new president with anti-Israel advisers. Our American Jewish Community has fallen in love with their political connections and lost their connection with their Jewish roots.

When push comes to shove, those Jews who believe in God must stand up and fight. Just like they did over two thousand years ago. After all, Maccabee stands for, "Who is like you O Lord".

As we celebrate this Chanukah holiday, we must redouble our efforts to rally for the cause of right. And we must pray to God that he sends us a Maccabee, instead of the leaders we have now both in Israel and in the American Jewish Community.

"Not by might, not by power, but by My spirit alone...." It doesn't mean don't fight; it means don't fight without God in your heart.

A POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS STRUGGLE TO RETURN TO THE JEWISH WAY.

NO TO THE GOV'T OF CHELM

30-mermaid--Merry Christmas Merm...

If restraint and proportional response hasn't worked - then there are only two other choices:

- pacifist; waiting for the inevitable
- disproportionate; just win baby - the hell with the MSM

Which would you choose?

re: #101 soniq95

Proportional response would be to send unguided missiles into Gaza (1 for 1). Now just how do you think the MSN will report that.
"Israel's War Crimes Continue"
Yea something like that.

It’s disquieting to see the left wing media as the mouthpiece of our country.

“Israel is forcing us to fire these rockets.”

That quote now seems to be gone from wherever it was. Is there a new link?

Saying "Israel made us do it" is no excuse for murdering innocent civilians.