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Open | Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:12:13 pm PST

It’s not the cat’s pajamas, it’s not the farmer’s daughter, it’s just another open thread...

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1 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:13:04pm
2 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:13:08pm

Saturday?

3 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:13:42pm
4 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:14:59pm

I claim this thread in the name of Lizard-dom!

5 Charles  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:15:01pm

Yikes, automatic title generator got me on that one.

6 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:15:04pm

It does feel like Saturday....that went right by me.

7 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:15:50pm

I missed Christmas?

8 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:17:27pm

Merry Christmas, Everyone!

/sing along, and don't forget to stand up. :)

9 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:17:41pm

re: #5 Charles

Yikes, automatic title generator got me on that one.

I was wondering if you'd been sampling the Christmas cheer - the farmer's daughter?! - seemed a touch naughty for your front-page remarks.

10 Rexatosis  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:18:14pm

To all a Merry Christmas, and don't forget to leave the Milke and Cookies out for the fat guy in red suit:)

11 lesbianrainforest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:18:19pm

O/T I'll just bet Iowahawk's next chestnut is about Bernie Madoff exonerating himself from any wrong doing. It will be brilliantly written, as usual. Can't wait.

12 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:18:41pm

feels like a Saturday to me...course I have nobody to shop for or celebrate with and nowhere to travel to...so Saturday it is!

13 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:18:54pm

re: #10 Rexatosis

To all a Merry Christmas, and don't forget to leave the Milke and Cookies out for the fat guy in red suit:)

Be careful that it ain't Michael Moore.

14 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:21:03pm

Merry Christmas, Lizard Nation!

15 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:21:20pm

Better yet! It is the farmers daughter and she has just removed her pajamas. ;-)>

16 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:22:12pm

re: #15 Outrider

Better yet! It is the farmers daughter and she has just removed her pajamas. ;-)>

Prevert! (sic) ;)

17 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:22:25pm

re: #15 Outrider

Better yet! It is the farmers daughter and she has just removed her pajamas. ;-)>

I will resist several quotes. Firmly. Particularly the ones derived from Viking Romances or folk songs.

18 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:22:58pm

re: #16 FurryOldGuyJeans

Prevert! (sic) ;)

Nah. I would be a pervert IF I had finished it. lol

19 JacksonTn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:23:25pm

re: #12 albusteve

feels like a Saturday to me...course I have nobody to shop for or celebrate with and nowhere to travel to...so Saturday it is!

albusteve ...yeah but just think about all those apples you are gonna have next year from your orchard ...keep the logs going on the fire ... and the water going to the trees ...stay warm ...Christmas is in the mind and heart ...doesn't matter where you are ...

20 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:23:36pm

then Dr Perfecto went and changed the day back to the real day....bah humbug!

21 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:24:27pm
22 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:24:45pm

re: #17 Dianna

I will resist several quotes. Firmly. Particularly the ones derived from Viking Romances or folk songs.

quotes are welcome....let 'er rip!

23 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:25:53pm

re: #19 JacksonTn

albusteve ...yeah but just think about all those apples you are gonna have next year from your orchard ...keep the logs going on the fire ... and the water going to the trees ...stay warm ...Christmas is in the mind and heart ...doesn't matter where you are ...

wish I had enough land to plant apple trees.

But, I got Kumquat trees. I've pulled eight pounds of them off of two trees so far and have many more to go. Too bad I can't eat them. The wife, daughter and granddaughters love them though. ;-)>

24 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:26:06pm

re: #7 MandyManners

I missed Christmas?

"It's Christmas Day!" said Scrooge to himself. "I haven't missed it. The Spirits have done it all in one night."

25 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:26:15pm

re: #21 buzzsawmonkey

The farmer's daughter, she came down to bolt the kitchen door,
And there she saw the beggar standing naked on the floor.
He took the daughter in his arms and to the bed he ran:
"Kind sir," she said, "be easy now, you'll waken our good man!"

26 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:26:43pm

re: #22 badbear

Buzzsawmonkey started it!

27 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:26:44pm

re: #18 Outrider

Nah. I would be a pervert IF I had finished it. lol

Why I said PREvert. ;)

28 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:27:07pm
29 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:27:33pm

re: #27 FurryOldGuyJeans

Why I said PREvert. ;)

ahhh. noted. ;-)> (a little thick on the eve)

30 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:27:34pm

re: #28 buzzsawmonkey

With a hey nonny nonny and a ha-cha-cha!

No hubba hubba?

31 JacksonTn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:28:24pm

re: #23 Outrider

wish I had enough land to plant apple trees.

But, I got Kumquat trees. I've pulled eight pounds of them off of two trees so far and have many more to go. Too bad I can't eat them. The wife, daughter and granddaughters love them though. ;-)>

What state are you in? ...Do you have room for one tree?

32 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:28:27pm

re: #28 buzzsawmonkey

With a hey nonny nonny and a ha-cha-cha!

Let's put it this way: I have spent much of my life in the sort of company that sang that way.

33 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:28:48pm

re: #19 JacksonTn

albusteve ...yeah but just think about all those apples you are gonna have next year from your orchard ...keep the logs going on the fire ... and the water going to the trees ...stay warm ...Christmas is in the mind and heart ...doesn't matter where you are ...

let me tell you amigo...I live in my own little bit of heaven down here...I come and go as I please...my kids would not have it for me to fly north to see them duting the holidays...they're okay with that...that's all there is and I'm very content to be outa the loop so to speak...and thanks

34 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:28:48pm
35 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:29:40pm

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

"Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. But soon, and for the rest of your life."

--Casablanca

Are you talking about Obama tax hikes again?

36 snopercod  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:30:23pm

re: #23 Outrider

It only takes about a 5' diameter circle to plant a dwarf apple tree. Stark Bros. even has peach and citrus trees that will grow in a container on your deck.

starkbros.com

37 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:30:31pm

re: #31 JacksonTn

What state are you in? ...Do you have room for one tree?

Coastal Georgia. Anywhere there is room? I got stuff. Large oak in the back. Couple of magnolias in front an some crape myrtles scattered around.

38 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:30:36pm
39 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:31:07pm

re: #35 Silhouette

Are you talking about Obama tax hikes again?

No, about "hubba hubba!"

And farmer's daughters.

40 winston06  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:32:21pm

good afternoon folks..

41 BBEV  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:32:45pm

re: #15 Outrider

Better yet! It is the farmers daughter and she has just removed her pajamas. ;-)>

She's only the farmers Daughter but all the horse manure.

42 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:33:33pm

re: #38 buzzsawmonkey

Is that the five mile tax hike, or the twenty mile tax hike?

On the twenty mile, you can also earn the Community Volunteer Merit Badge.

Hey, I've got quite a collection of trail patches from the Smokies. But besides all the regular hikes, I think they ought to offer a patch for anyone who has walked all the way up and back down the Gatlinburg shopping area.

43 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:34:05pm

re: #36 snopercod

It only takes about a 5' diameter circle to plant a dwarf apple tree. Stark Bros. even has peach and citrus trees that will grow in a container on your deck.

starkbros.com

five foot takes too much for what I got left. Containerized trees are only option left. And I have seven 10 gallon Brugmansias on the driveway now. ;-)>

44 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:34:25pm

Hi

Merry Christmas again. Now I'm at my girlfriends house. She is at work until 10:00pm, so, it's just me and a big white persian cat that wants me to pet it constently. I'm allerigic to cats. The cat is from Turkey, that's were she got it when she had a gift shop there.

45 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:35:08pm
46 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:36:03pm

re: #44 Walter L. Newton

Stay alert..the humour here is quite sophisticated this afternoon. Good luck with the cat.

47 lesbianrainforest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:36:08pm

re: #44 Walter L. Newton

So you.re just sitting there stroking her.................

Naw.......... Merry Christmas

48 quickjustice  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:36:34pm

re: #41 BBEV

She was only the Accountant's daughter, but she sure knew how to keep her bottom line profitable.

She was only the Archer's daughter, but she knew how to make them quiver!

She was only the Architect's daughter, but she was an example of fine lines!

She was only the Archivist's daughter, but her volumes were all well stacked!

She was only the Artist's daughter, but she knew where to draw the line.

She was only the Artist's daughter, but she was never modelin'.

She was only the Baker's daughter, but she's got one in the oven for me!

She was only the Band Leader's daughter, but she loved to play the strumpet.

She was only the Basketball Player's daughter, but she knew just where to stuff it.

She was only the Bootlegger's daughter, but I love her still.

She was only the Bottlemaker's daughter, but nothing could stop her!

She was only the Brewer's daughter, but that didn't stop her in the yeast.

She was only the Brothel Keeper's daughter, but she was determined to bedder herself.

Etc.

49 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:36:41pm

re: #47 lesbianrainforest

So you.re just sitting there stroking her.................

Naw.......... Merry Christmas

cue Johnny Carson line? ;-)>

50 quickjustice  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:38:32pm

re: #42 Silhouette

Or Dollywood.

51 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:38:35pm

See?

52 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:38:48pm

re: #44 Walter L. Newton

Hi

Merry Christmas again. Now I'm at my girlfriends house. She is at work until 10:00pm, so, it's just me and a big white persian cat that wants me to pet it constently. I'm allerigic to cats. The cat is from Turkey, that's were she got it when she had a gift shop there.

If it doesn't stop your breathing, give kitty a quick scritch about the ears, then go wash your hands. It keeps the peace.

And a very Merry Christmas!

53 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:41:28pm

re: #52 Dianna

If it doesn't stop your breathing, give kitty a quick scritch about the ears, then go wash your hands. It keeps the peace.

And a very Merry Christmas!

That's worth a try..but it never worked on my girlfriend.

54 nyc redneck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:42:13pm

re: #40 winston06

good afternoon folks..

hey winston,
merry christmas eve.

55 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:42:16pm

re: #53 badbear

That's worth a try..but it never worked on my girlfriend.

You weren't doing it right, then.

56 JacksonTn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:42:29pm

re: #37 Outrider

Coastal Georgia. Anywhere there is room? I got stuff. Large oak in the back. Couple of magnolias in front an some crape myrtles scattered around.

I would suggest a columnar apple ...they grow straight up and are perfect for containers on decks or patios or in a small yard ...if you have only room for one tree get a self-pollinating one like yellow delicious or granny smith ...I do not grow columnar apples any longer or I would send you one ...

I do grow an apple cocktail tree that we graft five different apple varieties on and we market that to people with small yards who do not have room for more than one apple tree ...it will give you different varieties and the pollinator requirement ...

I ship many loads of trees into your area ...growing fruit is really fun and it is great for kids ...

57 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:42:38pm

I'm sitting here working late, on Christmas Eve, which makes me think of Ebenezer, and it just occured to me that one of the best streets for looking at Christmas lights in our community is on Ebenezer street. At least 3 mega-decorated houses.

58 DeafDog  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:42:44pm

re: #48 quickjustice

if i were the marrying kind,
which thank the lord i'm not sir
the kind of girl that i would wed
would be a grounds keeper's daughter

'cause i'd trim bush
and she'd trim bush
we'd all trim bush together
we'd be alright in the middle of the night
trimming bush together

59 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:43:05pm

I have a six acre hilltop down in Jamaica...900ft right above the ocean...I planned on putting in bananas and oranges and try to grow orchids...I got some bananas in but then was divorced and have not been down for four years....I need to get down there and check things out...but at one time I was gonna turn pro so to speak

60 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:43:57pm

re: #56 JacksonTn

I plan to plant lots of fruit trees in my yard when I'm a lil' ol' lady, so that the neighbor kids will all sneak in, and I can yell, "You kids get out of my yard!"

61 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:44:51pm

re: #60 Silhouette

I plan to plant lots of fruit trees in my yard when I'm a lil' ol' lady, so that the neighbor kids will all sneak in, and I can yell, "You kids get out of my yard!"

You could start practicing now. ;)

62 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:45:08pm

re: #60 Silhouette

I plan to plant lots of fruit trees in my yard when I'm a lil' ol' lady, so that the neighbor kids will all sneak in, and I can yell, "You kids get out of my yard!"

Don't forget the cane in one hand being waved and the cat held firmly under the other arm! (memories of the old lady down the street chasing me out of her cherry tree)

63 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:45:10pm

Good Christmas Eve to you, Lizards! Before I run out to the in-laws for dinner, I thought I'd mark a dubious anniversary for the former USSR.

Worst decision . . . evah!

64 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:46:09pm
65 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:46:57pm

re: #62 Outrider

Don't forget the cane in one hand being waved and the cat held firmly under the other arm! (memories of the old lady down the street chasing me out of her cherry tree)

Ahhhh, memories. ;)

66 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:47:38pm
67 blackpajamas  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:48:20pm

Merry Giftcard and a Happy New Deal!

Raming through the Bills
In an massive bailout plan
On the printers go
Inflating all the pay
Bums on wiretaps sing
Making bails tight
What fun it is to ring
Plea bargain bells tonight

Oh, Bail-Out Bills, Bail-Out Bills
Bail-Out all the way
Oh, what fun it is to hide
The Taypayer's hard earned pay
Bail-Out Bills, Bail-Out Bills
Bail-Out all the way
Oh, what fun it is to hide
The taypayer's hard earned pay

[Refrain]

Seriously, just f*cking refrain!

Taking wealth from a functioning sector of the economy and transfering it to a non-functioning sector is a tax no matter how they try to gift wrap it!

// I wonder what my beautiful mug-shot's doin' in the thread below ...

68 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:48:43pm

re: #57 Silhouette

I'm sitting here working late, on Christmas Eve, which makes me think of Ebenezer, and it just occured to me that one of the best streets for looking at Christmas lights in our community is on Ebenezer street. At least 3 mega-decorated houses.

Or Bob Cratchitt!

69 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:49:15pm

re: #68 goddessoftheclassroom

Or Bob Cratchitt!

I wonder if he was a distant relative of Nurse Ratchet?

70 maddogg  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:50:34pm

Merry Christmas, and to all a good night.

71 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:50:54pm

re: #67 blackpajamas

Great icon...a WWII Marine.

Cool song....thanks.

72 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:52:03pm

re: #53 badbear

That's worth a try..but it never worked on my girlfriend.

Really? Then you weren't doing it right.

/snicker.

73 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:52:06pm

Merry Christmas, Lizards.

My gift to you--please watch this!

With love from goddessoftheclassroom

74 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:52:16pm

re: #62 Outrider

Don't forget the cane in one hand being waved and the cat held firmly under the other arm! (memories of the old lady down the street chasing me out of her cherry tree)

We had a guy with a shotgun. At least that was the rumor.

He owned a drive-in, that had a playground which attracted kids of course, and a big field in the back. And folklore was that he'd shot at some kids, although I never saw it. Made the trek across his land to see friends on the other side more fun.

75 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:53:24pm
76 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:54:04pm

re: #74 Silhouette

We had a guy with a shotgun. At least that was the rumor.

He owned a drive-in, that had a playground which attracted kids of course, and a big field in the back. And folklore was that he'd shot at some kids, although I never saw it. Made the trek across his land to see friends on the other side more fun.

ah yes...the perception of danger always enhanced the adventure...we looked for it back then

77 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:54:15pm

re: #60 Silhouette

I plan to plant lots of fruit trees in my yard when I'm a lil' ol' lady, so that the neighbor kids will all sneak in, and I can yell, "You kids get out of my yard!"

One friend of mine does that while brandishing The Sharpened Rake of Doom.

78 beermeister  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:54:29pm

Just in time for Christmas

Global Warming Scumbag Alert

Scientists warn Christmas lights harm the planet

[Link: www.news.com.au...]

79 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:55:07pm

re: #73 goddessoftheclassroom

Merry Christmas, Lizards.

My gift to you--please watch this!

With love from goddessoftheclassroom

Just beautiful!

MERRY CHRISTMAS, GOTC!

80 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:55:36pm

re: #78 beermeister

Just in time for Christmas

Global Warming Scumbag Alert

Scientists warn Christmas lights harm the planet

[Link: www.news.com.au...]

Bah fucking humbug to the lot of them!

81 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:56:10pm

re: #79 MandyManners

Just beautiful!

MERRY CHRISTMAS, GOTC!

Merry Christmas, {MandyManners}

(can you tell me why I'm crying? I'm such a goob.)

82 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:57:00pm

re: #78 beermeister

Just in time for Christmas

Global Warming Scumbag Alert

Scientists warn Christmas lights harm the planet

[Link: www.news.com.au...]


Dr Platt Scrooge added: "For a zero-emission Christmas light show, you may consider using solar powered lights or sourcing your electricity from verified green power suppliers."
83 96RoadKing  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:59:03pm

re: #10 Rexatosis

To all a Merry Christmas, and don't forget to leave the Milke and Cookies out for the fat guy in red suit:)

Milk & Cookies...Milk & Cookies...I'm tired of Milk & Cookies. How about a Bud and some peanuts?

84 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:59:11pm

re: #81 goddessoftheclassroom

Merry Christmas, {MandyManners}

(can you tell me why I'm crying? I'm such a goob.)

This one got me in traffic yesterday.

85 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:59:22pm

re: #82 Outrider

green power suppliers will be licensed by the peoples' commissar.

86 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:59:38pm

re: #83 96RoadKing

Milk & Cookies...Milk & Cookies...I'm tired of Milk & Cookies. How about a Bud and some peanuts?

I'm leaving out hot tea and Pez!

87 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 1:59:53pm

I'm watching a show on Military History channel right now about the invasion of Europe in WWII. They are covering the 82nd Airborne. What a bunch of freaking STUDS! I thought I was hotstuff when I earned my wings, these guys did it when it was a brand new concept, then made combat jumps into heavily fortified countryside. We are losing all these guys now to old age. What a generation!

88 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:00:03pm
89 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:00:17pm

re: #41 BBEV

She's only the farmers Daughter but all the horse manure.

She was only the pieman's daughter, but everybody got a piece!

90 96RoadKing  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:00:37pm

re: #85 badbear

green power suppliers will be licensed by the peoples' commissar.


Or you can buy some Carbon Credits to off set your sins! Just stop by the local Algore Store and ol' Honest Al will set you up!

91 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:00:50pm

re: #84 MandyManners

This one got me in traffic yesterday.

great one, MM.

92 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:01:20pm

re: #83 96RoadKing

Milk & Cookies...Milk & Cookies...I'm tired of Milk & Cookies. How about a Bud and some peanuts?

Reminds me that The Kid and I gotta' make some reindeer food for glitter to scatter across Santa's landing zone. Before he goes to bed, we'll set out cookies and milk for Santa and lettuce and carrots for the reindeer. Once he's asleep, I'll nibble on the carrots and lettuce and leave crumbs so that he'll think they ate it.

93 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:01:22pm

No comment on how much carbon is eaten up by the thousands of acres of Christmas tree farms, poinsettia growing, etc. that would never have been planted without Christmas.

If you can pay someone to plant a tree to "offset" your airplane flight to Europe, then I'd say Christmas is "carbon neutral."

94 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:02:00pm

re: #87 Outrider

I'm watching a show on Military History channel right now about the invasion of Europe in WWII. They are covering the 82nd Airborne. What a bunch of freaking STUDS! I thought I was hotstuff when I earned my wings, these guys did it when it was a brand new concept, then made combat jumps into heavily fortified countryside. We are losing all these guys now to old age. What a generation!

very well said...

95 albusteve  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:02:51pm

re: #94 badbear

very well said...

and I second that...OOO RAH!

96 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:03:03pm

Here's the deal -

Dear Santa Claus,
Please don't let John McCain ever run for president again.
Thank you.

97 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:03:08pm

The Kid just informed me that we should leave Santa some Dr Pepepr 'cause it's a long night for Santa.

98 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:03:45pm
99 96RoadKing  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:04:36pm

re: #92 MandyManners

Reminds me that The Kid and I gotta' make some reindeer food for glitter to scatter across Santa's landing zone. Before he goes to bed, we'll set out cookies and milk for Santa and lettuce and carrots for the reindeer. Once he's asleep, I'll nibble on the carrots and lettuce and leave crumbs so that he'll think they ate it.

Do you leave any scat for realism?

100 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:04:51pm
101 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:05:14pm

re: #97 MandyManners

The Kid just informed me that we should leave Santa some Dr Pepepr 'cause it's a long night for Santa.

Materva is a much better choice, if somewhat esoteric.

103 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:05:29pm

re: #98 ploome hineni

Father Bonzani added that another reason for including the mosque was that it accurately represented today's Bethlehem. "Someone asked me why I had put one in and I said I wanted it to be a modern Bethlehem."

So, he put in a McDonald's and a Gap too?

104 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:05:41pm
105 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:05:48pm

re: #99 96RoadKing

Do you leave any scat for realism?

No. I'm a bad mommy.

106 96RoadKing  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:06:20pm

re: #103 Silhouette

So, he put in a McDonald's and a Gap too?

Where did he put the rocket launchers?

107 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:06:50pm

I think it is no coincidence that the targeted element of carbon is also the building block of life.

108 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:06:58pm

re: #102 MandyManners

Pene.

It's wrong on SO MANY levels, most importantly and least controversially IT'S ANACHRONISTIC!

109 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:07:00pm

re: #101 mikalm

Materva is a much better choice, if somewhat esoteric.

A bubblegum flavor? Oh, yuck.

110 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:07:10pm

re: #87 Outrider

I'm watching a show on Military History channel right now about the invasion of Europe in WWII. They are covering the 82nd Airborne. What a bunch of freaking STUDS! I thought I was hotstuff when I earned my wings, these guys did it when it was a brand new concept, then made combat jumps into heavily fortified countryside. We are losing all these guys now to old age. What a generation!

I'm watching it, too. Makes me proud when I watch Band of Brothers.

111 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:07:12pm

re: #98 ploome hineni

what a maroon. wimpy priests have become the rule not the exception. one reason I no longer commune.

112 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:07:16pm
113 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:07:47pm

re: #108 goddessoftheclassroom

It's wrong on SO MANY levels, most importantly and least controversially IT'S ANACHRONISTIC!

Pene?

114 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:07:52pm

re: #98 ploome hineni

...........how do you say PUTZ in Italian?

Priest puts mosque in Nativity scene
Italy's Right-wing Northern League have reacted with fury after it emerged that a Roman Catholic priest added a model mosque to his church's nativity scene.

Did this "imbecile" (cool word for this guy) think there were mosques when Jesus was born? Some one needs to tell the Priest there is a big difference between accommodation and just plain old bending over backwards yelling BOHICA! Or he just plain needs to keep his politics out of religious celebrations. Either way - Borghezio used the proper descriptive word for the priest.

115 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:07:58pm

re: #109 MandyManners

A bubblegum flavor? Oh, yuck.

Actually, it tastes more like Dr. Pepper than anything else. But the stuff has the kick of two energy drinks.

116 96RoadKing  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:07:58pm

re: #105 MandyManners

No. I'm a bad mommy.


My ol' man used to use a broom handle to put down Reindeer 'tracks' and two parallel tracks showing where the sled landed and took off. He had us fooled for years.

117 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:08:07pm

re: #87 Outrider

I'm watching a show on Military History channel right now about the invasion of Europe in WWII. They are covering the 82nd Airborne. What a bunch of freaking STUDS! I thought I was hotstuff when I earned my wings, these guys did it when it was a brand new concept, then made combat jumps into heavily fortified countryside. We are losing all these guys now to old age. What a generation!

Ste. Mère-Eglise

Pvt. John C. Steel (of the 505th, 82nd Div) was the man whose parachute caught on the church after midnight on D-Day. His ordeal was told in Cornelius Ryan's LONGEST DAY (Red Buttons played him in the movie).


[Link: warchronicle.com...]

118 DaddyG  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:08:43pm

Good Karma to you - to you and your kin.

I'm logging off and going to pay some undivided attention to my family for a few days in honor of the birth of the Son of God who blessed me with 'em.

Have a Happy Lizards!

119 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:09:09pm

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

I want to see the carbon emission lunatics take on the Coca-Cola Company.

After all, soft drinks are carbonated with carbon dioxide. Given the number of Cokes the Coca-Cola Company sells worldwide, surely the carbon dioxide emissions from all those bubbles from all those opened beverages--not to mention whatever escapes from the plants in the bottling process--is a huge source of carbon-dioxide emissions. Yet you don't hear a peep from anyone about this.

Yes, I want to see the carbon emission lunatics take on the Coca-Cola Company, and watch them be crushed like bugs.

aw c'mon. Not my Coke. These clowns are already screwing with too many of my favorites. lol ;-)>

120 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:10:17pm

re: #112 taxfreekiller

its magic

poof goes the tax money

Don't worry, they can always get more.

/deep, deep sarcasm.

121 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:10:20pm
122 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:10:57pm

re: #113 MandyManners

Pene?

The mosque.

123 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:11:16pm

re: #113 MandyManners

Pene?

Oh, I'm sorry--I meant to reply to the priest who placed a mosque in the nativity scene!

124 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:11:18pm

re: #116 96RoadKing

My ol' man used to use a broom handle to put down Reindeer 'tracks' and two parallel tracks showing where the sled landed and took off. He had us fooled for years.

Chris Isaak once claimed that when he was a kid out in Central Valley farm country, one Christmas Eve his dad climbed up onto the house roof, fired off a shotgun into the night sky, came back into the house, and told the kids, "Okay -- no more Santa Claus!"

125 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:11:53pm

re: #115 mikalm

Actually, it tastes more like Dr. Pepper than anything else. But the stuff has the kick of two energy drinks.

Thou shalt not put a period after Dr in Dr Pepper.

126 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:11:59pm

re: #117 Dustyvet

Ste. Mère-Eglise

Pvt. John C. Steel (of the 505th, 82nd Div) was the man whose parachute caught on the church after midnight on D-Day. His ordeal was told in Cornelius Ryan's LONGEST DAY (Red Buttons played him in the movie).


[Link: warchronicle.com...]

heck of a way to go down in history eh? But, hanging in a tree is no fun, has to truly suck when enemy knows you are there.

127 96RoadKing  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:12:00pm

A very Merry Christmas Eve to all. May tomorrow morning find you all truly blessed and surrounded by the love of Family. May your wishes come true and your gifts be accepted with enthusiasm. And may the dishes be cleaned by others!

128 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:12:21pm

re: #116 96RoadKing

My ol' man used to use a broom handle to put down Reindeer 'tracks' and two parallel tracks showing where the sled landed and took off. He had us fooled for years.

What a GREAT story--it's the magic of Christmas that adds glitter of our childhood memories.

129 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:12:34pm

Santa's in Cameroon!

If you get a spare moment, please send a message to the men and women at NORAD who are tracking Santa and have a fantastic Web site.

130 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:13:07pm

re: #115 mikalm

Actually, it tastes more like Dr. Pepper than anything else. But the stuff has the kick of two energy drinks.

I'm jittering just thinking about it.

131 LilyGecko  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:13:11pm

re: #129 MandyManners

We visit NORAD every year. :) Great site.

132 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:13:37pm

re: #116 96RoadKing

My ol' man used to use a broom handle to put down Reindeer 'tracks' and two parallel tracks showing where the sled landed and took off. He had us fooled for years.

Awesome!

133 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:15:05pm

re: #122 Dianna

The mosque.

re: #123 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, I'm sorry--I meant to reply to the priest who placed a mosque in the nativity scene!

I was scratching my head for a moment.

134 LeePro  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:15:13pm

Hi, y'all!

Just wanted to say MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY HANUKKAH, then I'm off to the races...

1. Church

2. Food

3. Back to the Lizards

135 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:15:40pm

re: #124 mikalm

Chris Isaak once claimed that when he was a kid out in Central Valley farm country, one Christmas Eve his dad climbed up onto the house roof, fired off a shotgun into the night sky, came back into the house, and told the kids, "Okay -- no more Santa Claus!"

Oh, no. That's just sick. (Why am I laughing?)

136 LilyGecko  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:16:05pm

re: #134 LeePro

Merry Christmas to you too!

137 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:16:19pm

Gotta' go stir the chili and make reindeer feed. bbiaw

138 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:16:30pm
139 SurferDoc  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:17:06pm

"Oh, a wonderful pudding! Bob Cratchit said, and calmly too, that he regarded it as the greatest success achieved by Mrs. Cratchit since their marriage. Mrs. Cratchit said that now the weight was off her mind, she would confess she had had her doubts about the quantity of flour. Everybody had something to say about it, but nobody said or thought it was at all a small pudding for a large family. It would have been flat heresy to do so. Any Cratchit would have blushed to hint at such a thing."

140 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:18:43pm
141 LilyGecko  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:20:30pm

Santa is in Algeria.

142 sngnsgt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:20:34pm

Merry New Year!

143 LilyGecko  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:21:33pm

Gotta go. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone. :)

144 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:26:33pm
145 beermeister  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:27:01pm

re: 82 Outrider

Dr Platt Scrooge added: "For a zero-emission Christmas light show, you may consider using solar powered lights or sourcing your electricity from verified green power suppliers."

This guy is a tool. Solar power is far from emission free or environment neutral. There is the major problem of clearing out vegitation. Here is a wonderful paper from the Oregon government explaining this. In it they mention the complexity of the tree versus solar panel issue. Too bad the enviro tools don't mention this.

The Dem and RINO blowhards are against oil, nuclear, coal, shale and even hydropower. Let's not forget wind. Teddy Kennedy has to sail and we can't hurt bird migration flights. No answers, no solutions for the Dems.

[Link: www.oregon.gov...]

On a better note. Merry Christmas.

[Link: www.newseum.org...]

146 sngnsgt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:28:10pm
147 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:30:22pm

re: #64 MandyManners

Oh, what a Christmas to have the blues.

Hi Mandy, I'm in and out on this computer. I trying to help clean up here at my girlfriends house, else I won't be able to find my clothes in the morning. It's a bit messy here.

148 Dustyvet[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:30:27pm
149 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:30:28pm

re: #138 ploome hineni

You know, shit like this wouldn't happen if Christians were known to behead the motherfuckers that did this. What lesson is it that we are learning from the Religion of Peace?

150 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:31:52pm

OT
Here is a breath of TRUTH.
AMEN.
Please watch this vid !
Eqyptian,Muslim-raised, Nonie Darwish
The issue is not the land over Palestine- that's the lie. It is not a land dispute. This is a religious, Holy War against any nation that rules itself, but not under Islamic leadership. And what is the closest autonomous, non-Muslim nation to the heart of the Middle East? It is Israel. And that is the truth. And until Muslims face that truth and admit it to the world instead of playing games and killing all these innocent people... We must face our internal problems - we (Muslims) must look within."
[Link: democracybroadcasting.blogspot.com...]

151 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:32:07pm

re: #145 beermeister

re: 82 Outrider

Dr Platt Scrooge added: "For a zero-emission Christmas light show, you may consider using solar powered lights or sourcing your electricity from verified green power suppliers."

This guy is a tool. Solar power is far from emission free or environment neutral. There is the major problem of clearing out vegitation. Here is a wonderful paper from the Oregon government explaining this. In it they mention the complexity of the tree versus solar panel issue. Too bad the enviro tools don't mention this.

The Dem and RINO blowhards are against oil, nuclear, coal, shale and even hydropower. Let's not forget wind. Teddy Kennedy has to sail and we can't hurt bird migration flights. No answers, no solutions for the Dems.

[Link: www.oregon.gov...]

On a better note. Merry Christmas.

[Link: www.newseum.org...]

The enviros will just have to accept the fact we will leave a footprint no matter what we do. but, you are right in they do not look into everything fully. They are still running "green" commercials decrying the use of paper as destructive to old growth forests. Pu-lease. Paper is created from wood grown by the paper mills specifically for paper and if their forests weren't there, it would just be strip malls and suburbs.
I had some teenage enviro slam me for watering my gardens, which consist mostly of foliage. She had never stopped to think water was a renewable source, I was putting more oxygen in the air, cooling down my yard/house thus requiring less AC, etc.....

152 lesbianrainforest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:32:28pm

re: #127 96RoadKing

A figgy or Yorkshire? Do you know what Yorkshire pudding is? I was surprised.

153 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:33:12pm

re: #129 MandyManners

Santa's in Cameroon!

If you get a spare moment, please send a message to the men and women at NORAD who are tracking Santa and have a fantastic Web site.

OMG! I sent them the following email 15 minutes ago:

Thank you for adding to the joy of Christmas and to millions of children's childhood memories.

And I received this 3 minutes later:

Thank you for the nice email.

Merry Christmas

IS THAT COOL OR WHAT?

154 nyc redneck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:33:41pm

money wise, this has been a terrible christmas season for me. the worst in 24 yrs.
oddly, i'm not really that concerned. somehow, i have looked around and noticed the important things. i'm appreciating the hissing steam pipes giving me warmth.
the inexpensive seasonal root vegetable meals i'm cooking. exchanging gifts w/ my friends. home made jelly and jam. cookies.
i'm kind of humbled by this turn of events but i feel a strength and resilience. kind of a calm acceptance that i may have to make some changes in my business and my life.
adapting. maybe like when you're rafting and see the rapids up ahead.
but i'm looking forward to the challenge of the coming yr.
it is going to be good one, come hell or fast water.
that's my proclamation.

155 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:34:33pm

re: #152 lesbianrainforest

A figgy or Yorkshire? Do you know what Yorkshire pudding is? I was surprised.

Wait till he gets to Spotted Dick...:) Or why you have to call a fanny pack a bum bag in the UK...:)

156 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:35:11pm

re: #153 goddessoftheclassroom

OMG! I sent them the following email 15 minutes ago:

Thank you for adding to the joy of Christmas and to millions of children's childhood memories.

And I received this 3 minutes later:

Thank you for the nice email.

Merry Christmas

IS THAT COOL OR WHAT?

Cool! How nice of them.

157 Maximu§  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:35:44pm

re: #87 Outrider

I'm watching a show on Military History channel right now about the invasion of Europe in WWII. They are covering the 82nd Airborne. What a bunch of freaking STUDS! I thought I was hotstuff when I earned my wings, these guys did it when it was a brand new concept, then made combat jumps into heavily fortified countryside. We are losing all these guys now to old age. What a generation!

I met one of them at my sons graduation at Fort Knox (19D) the other week...he was 92 and still strong. They sat at our table and he explained his Grandson was the 3rd Generation to join the US Army.

158 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:36:49pm

re: #135 MandyManners

Oh, no. That's just sick. (Why am I laughing?)

Because it's hysterical.

159 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:37:54pm

re: #148 Dustyvet

Only the ones too poor or too stupid to get the hell out of Dodge while they still can. I can't believe that anyone living in Gaza has any illusions left about the famous tolerance of the Mohammedan people.

Just like I don't believe all the Mohammedan appologists really don't know what they are supporting. Groups like "Queers for Palestine". Now that is either a suicidal group, or a group of people too stupid to live.

They should try that "Queers for Palestine" schtick in "Palestine". See how that works for them.

160 lifeofthemind  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:39:02pm

A very Merry Christmas to all who wait for the Son of God and worship a child of Israel. For those of us who know our relatives to well to think any of them could be a divinity, accept the compliment. For the goofball Italian priest who wants his church to look more like Bethlehem with a mosque inside, he'd need to expel 85% of the Christians and replace them Islamic Jihad approved agents.

161 Maximu§  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:39:50pm

One other thing, the DI's lined up to shake this vets hand. He had a Combat Infantry Badge with the WWII 82nd AB patch on his shoulder. The old SOB still looked tough.

162 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:40:43pm
163 lifeofthemind  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:42:33pm

re: #161 Maximu§

One other thing, the DI's lined up to shake this vets hand. He had a Combat Infantry Badge with the WWII 82nd AB patch on his shoulder. The old SOB still looked tough.

The real deal is usually tough but also full of simple courtesy. Combat veterans make excellent patient school teachers.

164 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:42:54pm

re: #162 buzzsawmonkey

Merry Christmas to the Christians, a Freilach Chanukah to the Jews, and joy to everyone else celebrating whatever else they may be celebrating.

{buzzsawmonkey}

Love and joy come to you,
And to you your wassail too,
And God bless you and send you a happy New Year.
And God send you a happy New Year.

165 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:42:59pm

Well, it's been a while since I've posted here, busy with the holidays and life and all....but Merry Christmas to everyone!

Don't drink the egg nog and drive.

Maybe I will be back later, if the party at my mom and dads ends early enough.

166 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:43:06pm
167 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:43:10pm

re: #162 buzzsawmonkey

I have a hard time wishing "joyous" anything to the Mohammedans. Their concept of "joy" means innocent people have been murdered.

168 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:43:23pm

re: #153 goddessoftheclassroom

I sent them a Thank you as well, a few hours ago... I didn't get a reply back tho. (pouting)
How wonderful. I luv tracking Santa!

169 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:44:19pm

re: #168 notutopia

I sent them a Thank you as well, a few hours ago... I didn't get a reply back tho. (pouting)
How wonderful. I luv tracking Santa!

{notutopia}

170 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:45:14pm

re: #166 ploome hineni

I suppose you want us to know you are staying the night
so
why dontcha leave your clothes in a bag by the door

or find a cleaner girlfriend?

Ah...I think that's a bit mean for Christmas eve, ploome. Funny, but kinda mean.

171 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:45:18pm
172 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:45:58pm
173 lifeofthemind  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:46:09pm

re: #167 Iron Fist

I have a hard time wishing "joyous" anything to the Mohammedans. Their concept of "joy" means innocent people have been murdered.

I wish them the joy of being cured of their ignorance, if they learn to replace hatred with love then I shall rejoice. If not we can deal with them massively.

174 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:47:05pm
175 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:47:43pm

re: #149 Iron Fist

Please view #150.

re: #138 ploome hineni

176 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:47:55pm
177 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:48:59pm

re: #174 ploome hineni

lol

I can;t help myself

why the fuck do I have to know about all his crap, farts whatever

why?

Because somehow or other, on LGF, we end up telling each other waaaaay too much.

178 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:49:07pm

re: #169 goddessoftheclassroom

Aw Thanks Goddess! That's the first hug I've gotten today from anyone!
It is Much appreciated.

179 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:49:57pm

re: #176 ploome hineni

{dianna}

lololol

Hey, it's Christmas - let's be sweet!

I hope your day is going well?

180 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:50:31pm
181 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:50:33pm

re: #177 Dianna

Because somehow or other, on LGF, we end up telling each other waaaaay too much.

In the junior high vernacular, that phenomena is called TMI or "too much information." My mind boggles at some of the deeply personal stuff my students blithely announce in front of me!

182 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:50:45pm

Santa's in Malmo, Sweden. I hope he dressed appropriately!

183 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:51:36pm

re: #182 Dianna

Santa's in Malmo, Sweden. I hope he dressed appropriately!

And brought the chestnuts to roast on the open fires...

184 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:51:40pm

re: #181 goddessoftheclassroom

I know. I rather blanch at some of what people discuss over their cell phones, too.

185 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:51:43pm
186 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:54:19pm
187 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:54:44pm

OPERATION ORDER 12-98
FOR: OFFICIAL VISIT OF LT jg SANTA CLAUS

1. An official staff visit by LT jg Claus is expected at this post on 25 Dec. The following directives govern activities of all Army personnel during the visit.

a. Not a creature will stir without permission. This includes warrant officers and mice. Soldiers may obtain special stirring permits for necessary administrative action through the Battalion S-1. Officer stirring permits must be obtained through the Deputy, Post Plans and Policy Office.

b. All personnel will settle their brains for a long winter nap NLT 2200 hours, 24 December. Uniform for the nap will be; Pajamas, Cotton, Light Weight, General Purpose, OG, and Cap, BDU woodland pattern, with ear flaps in the extended position. Equipment will be drawn from the supply room prior to 1900 hours. While at supply, all personnel will review their personal hand receipts and sign a Cash Collection Voucher, DD Form 1131, for all missing items. Remember, this is the "season of giving."

c. Personnel will utilize standard "T" ration sugar plums for visions to dance through their heads. Sugar plums are available in "T" ration sundry packs and should be eaten with egg loaf, chopped ham, and spice cake to ensure maximum visions are experienced.

d. Stockings, Wool, Cushion Sole, will be hung by the chimneys with care. Necessary safety precautions will be taken to avoid fires caused by carelessly hung stockings. 1SG's will submit stocking handling plans to S-3, Training prior to 0800 hours, 24 Dec. All leaders will ensure their subordinate personnel are briefed on the safety aspects of stocking hanging.

e. At first [sign] of clatter, all personnel will spring from their beds to investigate and evaluate the cause. Immediate action will be taken to tear open the shutters and throw up the window sashes. On order OPLAN 7-97 (North Pole), para 6-8 (c)(3), dated 4 March, this office, takes effect to facilitate shutter
tearing and sash throwing. SDO and all CQs will be familiar with procedures and are responsible for seeing that no shutters are torn or sashes thrown in Bldg 9828 prior to the start of official clatter.

f. Prior to 0001, date of visit, all personnel possessing Standard Target Acquisition and Night Observation (STANO) equipment will be assigned "wandering eyeball" stations. The SDNCO will ensure that these stations are adequately manned even after shutters are torn and sashes are thrown.

g. The Battalion S-4, in coordination with the National Security Agency and the Motor Pool will assign on each Sleigh, Miniature, M-24 and eight reindeer, tiny, for use by LT jg Claus. The assigned driver must have a current sleigh operator's license with roof top permit and evidence of attendance at the winter driving class
stamped on his DA Form 348. Driver must also be able to clearly shout "On Dancer, On Prancer, etc."

2. LT JG Claus will initially enter Bldg 9828 through the dayroom. All offices without chimneys will draw Chimney Simulator, M6A2 for use during the visit. Draw chimney simulator on DA Form 2765-1 which will be submitted in four copies to the S-4 prior to 23 Dec. Personnel will ensure that chimneys are properly cleaned before turn-in at the conclusion of visit.

3. Personnel will be rehearsed in the shouting of "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year" or "Merry Christmas To All and To All a Good Night." This shout will be given upon termination of the visit.
Uniformity of shouting is the responsibility of each section NCOIC.

FOR THE COMMANDER

GOODE, U. B., LTC, OD
Executive Officer

188 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:55:08pm

re: #185 ploome hineni

going for dinner an an hour..have a tummy ache

I should not eat rice

Sorry to hear that. The Male just left for a last shopping run, and I'm battling with a bit of re-writing between bouts of LGF.

189 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:56:24pm

BBL.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

190 WhiteRasta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:57:17pm

re: #59 albusteve

What part of JA? I'm looking at buying down there soon....

191 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:57:40pm

re: #189 goddessoftheclassroom

BBL.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Merry Christmas to you, gotc!

192 rawmuse  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:57:55pm

"Merry Christmas, Baby" from Charles (not Charlie) Brown

193 itellu3times  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:58:27pm

after a lovely day at work yesterday in which 60% of my job was waiting for some database test scripts to run so I could LGF around, today on the holiday eve I have to actually do some highly aggravating cleanup code merge work and cannot hardly LGF at all.

only redeeming feature is hardly a creature besides me is stirring around here at this point, and soon I will bestir even my own self out the door and home ... via Best Buy.

feliz navidad y'all!

194 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:59:27pm

re: #184 Dianna

I know. I rather blanch at some of what people discuss over their cell phones, too.

Dianna, did you ever see the movie "Sneakers"? More and more, I believe that the "No More Secrets" program has become a motto for the Connectedness Society.

195 Killian Bundy  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 2:59:37pm

Classic Radio Flyer wagon updated for 2.0 world

Maybe you had one as a kid, or knew someone who did. It's the iconic little red wagon with the Radio Flyer logo.

If so, you might not recognize the newest product dreamed up by the brain trust at Radio Flyer's Chicago, Illinois, headquarters.

This wagon, called the Cloud 9, is equipped with enough high-tech bells and whistles to make the family minivan jealous.

"We approached this product much like an automotive company might with a concept car," said Mark Johnson, Radio Flyer's product development manager.

Outfitted with 5-point safety harnesses, padded seats, cup holders, foot brakes and fold-out storage containers, the sleek, curved Cloud 9 has every family covered for a ride through the park. But that's just for starters.

There's a digital handle that tracks temperature, time, distance and speed -- just in case energetic parents want to track their split times around the playground. And there's a slot for an MP3 player, complete with speakers, for some cruising tunes.

/a true American icon gone moonbat, I blame Obama

196 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:00:11pm
197 lesbianrainforest  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:02:00pm

re: #160 lifeofthemind

Ahhh. A fellow movie lover. Little Cohen brothers symmetry here in the Midwest with gads of snow and incompetent criminals.

198 nyc redneck  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:02:17pm

merry christmas eve to all you good people.
i'm off to meet some friends and go to church to hear some beautiful caroling.

199 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:02:28pm

re: #193 itellu3times

so I could LGF around

and cannot hardly LGF at all.

I knew it would happen! LGF is a verb!

200 vapig  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:02:57pm

I hope everyone has a safe and very Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah!

201 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:03:17pm
202 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:03:46pm

re: #194 mikalm

Dianna, did you ever see the movie "Sneakers"? More and more, I believe that the "No More Secrets" program has become a motto for the Connectedness Society.

I think so - but there have been some classics uttered in my presence. My favorite being the young lady who spent an entire hour on CalTrain making little "I'm listening sympathetically" noises. Then, just as we reached her stop, she heaved a sigh and said, "John, I'm sorry, but your wife is leaving you because you're a jerk."

I know I shouldn't have, but I about fell out of my seat, I was laughing so hard.

203 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:03:59pm

re: #195 Killian Bundy

That is truly appalling.

204 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:04:43pm

re: #187 Dustyvet

OPERATION ORDER 12-98
FOR: OFFICIAL VISIT OF LT jg SANTA CLAUS

1. An official staff visit by LT jg Claus is expected at this post on 25 Dec. The following directives govern activities of all Army personnel during the visit.

a. Not a creature will stir without permission. This includes warrant officers and mice. Soldiers may obtain special stirring permits for necessary administrative action through the Battalion S-1. Officer stirring permits must be obtained through the Deputy, Post Plans and Policy Office.

b. All personnel will settle their brains for a long winter nap NLT 2200 hours, 24 December. Uniform for the nap will be; Pajamas, Cotton, Light Weight, General Purpose, OG, and Cap, BDU woodland pattern, with ear flaps in the extended position. Equipment will be drawn from the supply room prior to 1900 hours. While at supply, all personnel will review their personal hand receipts and sign a Cash Collection Voucher, DD Form 1131, for all missing items. Remember, this is the "season of giving."

c. Personnel will utilize standard "T" ration sugar plums for visions to dance through their heads. Sugar plums are available in "T" ration sundry packs and should be eaten with egg loaf, chopped ham, and spice cake to ensure maximum visions are experienced.

d. Stockings, Wool, Cushion Sole, will be hung by the chimneys with care. Necessary safety precautions will be taken to avoid fires caused by carelessly hung stockings. 1SG's will submit stocking handling plans to S-3, Training prior to 0800 hours, 24 Dec. All leaders will ensure their subordinate personnel are briefed on the safety aspects of stocking hanging.

e. At first [sign] of clatter, all personnel will spring from their beds to investigate and evaluate the cause. Immediate action will be taken to tear open the shutters and throw up the window sashes. On order OPLAN 7-97 (North Pole), para 6-8 (c)(3), dated 4 March, this office, takes effect to facilitate shutter
tearing and sash throwing. SDO and all CQs will be familiar with procedures and are responsible for seeing that no shutters are torn or sashes thrown in Bldg 9828 prior to the start of official clatter.

f. Prior to 0001, date of visit, all personnel possessing Standard Target Acquisition and Night Observation (STANO) equipment will be assigned "wandering eyeball" stations. The SDNCO will ensure that these stations are adequately manned even after shutters are torn and sashes are thrown.

g. The Battalion S-4, in coordination with the National Security Agency and the Motor Pool will assign on each Sleigh, Miniature, M-24 and eight reindeer, tiny, for use by LT jg Claus. The assigned driver must have a current sleigh operator's license with roof top permit and evidence of attendance at the winter driving class
stamped on his DA Form 348. Driver must also be able to clearly shout "On Dancer, On Prancer, etc."

2. LT JG Claus will initially enter Bldg 9828 through the dayroom. All offices without chimneys will draw Chimney Simulator, M6A2 for use during the visit. Draw chimney simulator on DA Form 2765-1 which will be submitted in four copies to the S-4 prior to 23 Dec. Personnel will ensure that chimneys are properly cleaned before turn-in at the conclusion of visit.

3. Personnel will be rehearsed in the shouting of "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year" or "Merry Christmas To All and To All a Good Night." This shout will be given upon termination of the visit.
Uniformity of shouting is the responsibility of each section NCOIC.

FOR THE COMMANDER


GOODE, U. B., LTC, OD
Executive Officer

I love it! :)

205 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:05:14pm
206 lifeofthemind  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:05:41pm

re: #197 lesbianrainforest

Ahhh. A fellow movie lover. Little Cohen brothers symmetry here in the Midwest with gads of snow and incompetent criminals.

Remember in a Democracy the People get the government that they deserve, and you get the government that they deserve also.

207 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:05:51pm
208 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:06:16pm
209 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:09:36pm

re: #202 Dianna

I think so - but there have been some classics uttered in my presence. My favorite being the young lady who spent an entire hour on CalTrain making little "I'm listening sympathetically" noises. Then, just as we reached her stop, she heaved a sigh and said, "John, I'm sorry, but your wife is leaving you because you're a jerk."

I know I shouldn't have, but I about fell out of my seat, I was laughing so hard.

About once a week, on the SamTrans express bus I take home, there's a thirtyish exec-type who holds these top-volume, one-sided convos on his cell. About half of them are fights with an ex-wife/-GF where he goes into all sorts of embarassing details about their current and former relationship.

210 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:09:46pm

re: #205 ploome hineni

re writing?

you writing a book or somethin'?

Yep. I got a strong suggestion that I had to at least re-write some of the scenes.

I take advice.

What's funny, to me, anyway, is that I cannot be present when someone's reading my work. I jitter, and want to explain. If I get a written critique, though, I can take criticism and advice.

211 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:11:59pm

re: #209 mikalm

About once a week, on the SamTrans express bus I take home, there's a thirtyish exec-type who holds these top-volume, one-sided convos on his cell. About half of them are fights with an ex-wife/-GF where he goes into all sorts of embarassing details about their current and former relationship.

Oooh, yes. Those!

My boss arrived at the office one morning, beet red with embarrassment. He'd been walking up from BART, and this woman was walking behind him, discussing, in intimate detail, the failings of her soon-to-be-former boyfriend.

My boss is not a prude, but he couldn't stop blushing.

212 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:12:54pm
213 rawmuse  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:12:55pm

You would think that teh moonbatz would take Christmas Eve off.
But, no.

214 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:13:26pm

re: #211 Dianna

Oooh, yes. Those!

My boss arrived at the office one morning, beet red with embarrassment. He'd been walking up from BART, and this woman was walking behind him, discussing, in intimate detail, the failings of her soon-to-be-former boyfriend.

My boss is not a prude, but he couldn't stop blushing.

He shouldn't have been eavesdropping on me.

215 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:14:50pm

re: #213 rawmuse

You would think that teh moonbatz would take Christmas Eve off.
But, no.

Citizens Committee to Save Tiny Tim

Well, God bless him.

216 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:14:52pm
217 Bobibutu  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:15:20pm

re: #129 MandyManners

Santa's in Cameroon!

If you get a spare moment, please send a message to the men and women at NORAD who are tracking Santa and have a fantastic Web site.

Thanks for the heads-up Mandy - I sent a msg thanking them for their service - they sent one back wishing me a Merry Christmas.

So I extend it to all Lizardia.

218 debutaunt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:15:55pm

re: #202 Dianna

I think so - but there have been some classics uttered in my presence. My favorite being the young lady who spent an entire hour on CalTrain making little "I'm listening sympathetically" noises. Then, just as we reached her stop, she heaved a sigh and said, "John, I'm sorry, but your wife is leaving you because you're a jerk."

I know I shouldn't have, but I about fell out of my seat, I was laughing so hard.

It would be so tempting to high-five her!

219 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:15:56pm

re: #211 Dianna

Oooh, yes. Those!

My boss arrived at the office one morning, beet red with embarrassment. He'd been walking up from BART, and this woman was walking behind him, discussing, in intimate detail, the failings of her soon-to-be-former boyfriend.

My boss is not a prude, but he couldn't stop blushing.

Contrast this with my own approach. One day when I was riding home, a friend of mine who's a schoolteacher called my cell to tell me that one of his ex-students had been killed in Iraq. I told him I was in a public place, and couldn't discuss such a sensitive subject until I was home.

220 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:16:15pm

re: #217 Bobibutu

Thanks for the heads-up Mandy - I sent a msg thanking them for their service - they sent one back wishing me a Merry Christmas.

So I extend it to all Lizardia.

I told them about LGF. I hope they visit here.

221 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:16:26pm

re: #212 ploome hineni

cool what are you wrtinging>

A novel about a woman who survives 30 years as a slave. That's the short, short, short plot summary.

222 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:17:19pm

re: #215 MandyManners

Citizens Committee to Save Tiny Tim

Well, God bless him.

Check the comments on that one. Even here in the Bay Area, people have some limits as to how much of that nonsense they'll endure.

223 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:18:17pm

re: #218 debutaunt

It would be so tempting to high-five her!

Indeed, it was. I've seen her a few times since, and I always smile.

224 lifeofthemind  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:18:43pm

re: #221 Dianna

A novel about a woman who survives 30 years as a slave. That's the short, short, short plot summary.

My God woman, you mean she got on line at Motor Vehicles? Oh the humanity.

225 yochanan  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:19:10pm

We Need Another Maccabee
by Sammy Benoit

Our leaders greatly please their Hellenist kings.

Sunday night was the first night of Chanukah, the holiday with as many meanings as it has spellings. Why do we celebrate? Pick one or pick all:
Instead of remembering what Judah the Maccabee did in Modi'in, they look toward Medina.

1. A successful Jewish revolt against a Syrian empire ruled by the Seleucid dynasty of Greek kings some 2,200 years ago.

2. A revolt against assimilation and the attempt to impose Hellenistic culture on ancient Judea.

3. A celebration of the re-dedication of the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.

4. Recognition of a miracle in which one day's worth of oil burnt in the menorah for eight days.

.

It is the last point that relates so much to today's world. Israel is led by politicians who have no faith in the God who gave them the Land. They allow the Temple Mount - which used the be the "home" of God's Shekhinah ("Presence") and hopefully will be again soon - to be mutilated; in fact, they are willing to give it away. They do not protect Joseph's Tomb in Shechem or Rachel's Tomb in Bethlehem. They have fallen in love with Western culture and have forgotten how easily Judaism can get assimilated into it.

Ehud Olmert, Tzipi Livni and Ehud Barak have worked hard to please their Hellenist kings, George Bush and Condoleezza Rice. Instead of remembering what Judah the Maccabee did in Modi'in, they look toward Medina. Even the Shas party, which entered the government to protect Jerusalem as Jewish, sold themselves for political power.

Israel has leaders who sneak into the side entrance to so they can negotiate with people who want to destroy them, forgetting what others have learned before:

"It is incredible what political simpletons Jews are. They shut their eyes to one of the most elementary rules of life, that you must not 'meet halfway' those who do not want to meet you." -- Ze'ev Jabotinsky, "The Iron Wall", November 4, 1923

And once again, just like all of the other times, Israel has been dumped for political expediency by the Jewish
Israel has been dumped for political expediency.
People. The American Jewish Community proved their assimilation by helping to elect a new president with anti-Israel advisers. Our American Jewish Community has fallen in love with their political connections and lost their connection with their Jewish roots.

When push comes to shove, those Jews who believe in God must stand up and fight. Just like they did over two thousand years ago. After all, Maccabee stands for, "Who is like you O Lord".

As we celebrate this Chanukah holiday, we must redouble our efforts to rally for the cause of right. And we must pray to God that he sends us a Maccabee, instead of the leaders we have now both in Israel and in the American Jewish Community.

"Not by might, not by power, but by My spirit alone...." It doesn't mean don't fight; it means don't fight without God in your heart.

226 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:19:14pm

re: #221 Dianna

A novel about a woman who survives 30 years as a slave. That's the short, short, short plot summary.

Sounds like my wife raising our kids and putting up with me.

227 yochanan  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:19:52pm

not a fight with arms but within the political system,

228 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:19:56pm

re: #219 mikalm

Contrast this with my own approach. One day when I was riding home, a friend of mine who's a schoolteacher called my cell to tell me that one of his ex-students had been killed in Iraq. I told him I was in a public place, and couldn't discuss such a sensitive subject until I was home.

Thank you for that. I won't do more than arrange a pick-up from the train station with my Male in public.

Maybe it's a bit much that I won't even say, "Love you," but I've gotten hypersensitive about what I say in public.

229 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:20:20pm

re: #223 Dianna

Indeed, it was. I've seen her a few times since, and I always smile.

I have a couple people in my life who are nearing the point where I'll give them that kind of treatment.

230 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:20:31pm
231 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:21:37pm
232 WhiteRasta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:22:01pm

re: #228 Dianna

I once heard a financial planner loudly discussing with his client confidential stuff on a train in the UK one time.

I'd have fired him on the spot if I were the client.

233 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:22:04pm

re: #226 Spare O'Lake

Sounds like my wife raising our kids and putting up with me.

Ah.

Well.

Do you know, every single reply I came up with off the top of my head is completely wrong from Christmas eve?

Merry Christmas, and may you and your wife have a wonderful New Year!

234 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:22:44pm

re: #230 ploome hineni

ah

she was married?

Arguably.

235 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:23:19pm
236 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:23:48pm

re: #232 WhiteRasta

I once heard a financial planner loudly discussing with his client confidential stuff on a train in the UK one time.

I'd have fired him on the spot if I were the client.

I wish some people would figure that out, too. Details like that shouldn't be discussed in public.

237 Bobibutu  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:25:03pm

re: #220 MandyManners

I told them about LGF. I hope they visit here.

Well that was sweet and creative of you. If they do it will most likely be from their private home systems.

238 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:25:40pm

re: #233 Dianna

Ah.
Well.
Do you know, every single reply I came up with off the top of my head is completely wrong from Christmas eve?
Merry Christmas, and may you and your wife have a wonderful New Year!

Same to you and yours. And good luck with your project.

239 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:26:08pm

re: #236 Dianna

I wish some people would figure that out, too. Details like that shouldn't be discussed in public.

Our grandparents knew the value of discretion.

240 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:26:57pm

re: #172 ploome hineni

Merry Christmas, Ploome. Yeah, I don't see too much positive going on right now. I'm worried about BHO is going to do to the Country, and to the world. I don't see how this has a happy ending. Not in the next few years.

{ploome}

241 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:27:31pm

re: #237 Bobibutu

Are they actually in Cheyenne Mountain?

242 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:27:55pm

re: #240 Iron Fist

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

243 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:28:29pm

re: #228 Dianna

Thank you for that. I won't do more than arrange a pick-up from the train station with my Male in public.

Maybe it's a bit much that I won't even say, "Love you," but I've gotten hypersensitive about what I say in public.

I didn't even own a cell phone until I tried to rent a car and the woman asked me for my cell phone number. I told her I didn't own one. She then stated, "Yeah, a lot of older people don't use them". Harumph. I'm 54. ;-)>

So now, I've owned one of those Tracphones for about seven or eight months and have yet to make a call..... or get one on the damned thing.

244 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:28:48pm
245 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:29:00pm

re: #235 MandyManners

Santa Saturday about 3:00 a.m..

Aw, Mandy -- was that necessary?

246 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:29:10pm
247 abolitionist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:29:27pm

I just spent an hour trying to figure out why I can't play any videos on youtube or video.google. Turned off firewall, unloaded NoScript and AdBlock, disabled all cookie managers, dumped all cookies for youtube and google, and double-checked cookie permissions are set to allow globally in Firefox 2.0.0.18.

Still no go. Video titles are displayed, but where the video itself should be there's just a big open white space. Then I find this:

Video Player Issues: System requirements
In order to watch videos on our site, make sure you have access to the following system requirements:

1. Macromedia Flash Player 7.0+ plug-in
2. Windows 2000 or higher with latest updates installed
3. Mac OS X 10.3 or higher
4. Firefox 1.1+, Internet Explorer 5.0+, or Safari 1.0+
5. Broadband connection with 500+ Kbps

updated 12/19/2008

[Link: help.youtube.com...]

My flashplayer version is 9,0,151,0, but I have 98se. But according to this requirements statement, even if it was Vista Home Premium, videos STILL might not play if I didn't have THE LATEST UPDATES installed from M$ and Adobe etc.

WTF?!

Anyone know if Linus Torvalds has lodged a complaint yet?

Anyone know if the jihadi's and the Chinese get special consideration?

248 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:31:02pm

re: #244 ploome hineni

do I have your email?

I don't think so - my nic is now blue.

249 Bobibutu  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:31:04pm

re: #241 MandyManners

Are they actually in Cheyenne Mountain?

Part of it.

250 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:31:05pm

Happy Christmas Eve, lizards!

After a long, tough coupla weeks I've sipped a cocktail, taken a satisfying nap to recharge my batteries and have been contemplating a light dinner.

Speaking about dinner ... :D

251 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:32:13pm

re: #250 Miss Trixie

Happy Christmas Eve, lizards!

After a long, tough coupla weeks I've sipped a cocktail, taken a satisfying nap to recharge my batteries and have been contemplating a light dinner.

Speaking about dinner ... :D

Merry Christmas, {Miss Trixie}!

252 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:32:24pm

re: #250 Miss Trixie

Happy Christmas Eve, lizards!

After a long, tough coupla weeks I've sipped a cocktail, taken a satisfying nap to recharge my batteries and have been contemplating a light dinner.

Speaking about dinner ... :D


"Chipmunks Roasting On An Open Fire"? Do they taste like squirrel?

253 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:32:31pm

re: #247 abolitionist

I just spent an hour trying to figure out why I can't play any videos on youtube or video.google. Turned off firewall, unloaded NoScript and AdBlock, disabled all cookie managers, dumped all cookies for youtube and google, and double-checked cookie permissions are set to allow globally in Firefox 2.0.0.18.

Still no go. Video titles are displayed, but where the video itself should be there's just a big open white space. Then I find this:

[Link: help.youtube.com...]

My flashplayer version is 9,0,151,0, but I have 98se. But according to this requirements statement, even if it was Vista Home Premium, videos STILL might not play if I didn't have THE LATEST UPDATES installed from M$ and Adobe etc.

WTF?!

Anyone know if Linus Torvalds has lodged a complaint yet?

Anyone know if the jihadi's and the Chinese get special consideration?

For me, I get video, but no sound. We've got the music library to play through the speakers, and my Male has fiddled with it, but still, no youtube sound.

254 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:32:34pm

Gotta' go finish up the chili. bbl

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

255 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:33:06pm

re: #252 Outrider

"Chipmunks Roasting On An Open Fire"? Do they taste like squirrel?

A little sweeter, I'm told.

256 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:33:49pm

re: #255 Dianna

A little sweeter, I'm told.

i bet their pelts would make great little beer cozies. ;-)>

257 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:34:07pm

re: #241 MandyManners

Are they actually in Cheyenne Mountain?

Here's the entry.

258 Killian Bundy  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:34:36pm

re: #241 MandyManners

Are they actually in Cheyenne Mountain?

/they moved operations to Peterson AFB years ago

259 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:35:51pm

re: #150 notutopia

That is something positive, but isn't Dawrish an apostate? I mean, yes she's saying and even doing the right things despite having been raised a Mohammedan. There are a few truly moderate Mohammedans, but they are the "tiny minority". The Jihadis and their supporters are by far the larger group.

260 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:36:07pm

{gclaghorn} Right backatcha, toots!

{Outrider} I dunno. I'll have to ask Nam Grunt next time I see him. :D

Mrs. Claus? You DA BOMB! :D

261 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:36:33pm

re: #256 Outrider

i bet their pelts would make great little beer cozies. ;-)>

Brilliant!

262 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:37:34pm

re: #242 MandyManners

And Merry Christmas to you!

263 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:37:59pm

re: #256 Outrider

i bet their pelts would make great little beer cozies. ;-)>

And so cute!

264 NY Nana  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:38:01pm

A very merry Christmas to all who celebrate it!

265 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:38:31pm

re: #262 Iron Fist

Merry Christmas, IF!

266 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:38:48pm

re: #252 Outrider

I thought it was children roasting on an open fire.
:-)

267 Bobibutu  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:38:49pm

re: #257 jcm

Here's the entry.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Its main technical facility has been the Cheyenne Mountain Operations Center in Colorado, and for this reason NORAD is sometimes unofficially referred to as Cheyenne Mountain. In addition, in Canada East and Canada West Sector Air Operations Control Centres are located in the underground complex at Canadian Forces Base (CFB) North Bay in Ontario in Canada.

NORAD's headquarters facilities in Colorado are administered by the U.S. Air Force under the command of the 721st Mission Support Group, part of the 21st Space Wing, headquartered at Peterson Air Force Base. NORAD's forces consist of the Alaskan NORAD Region/Eleventh Air Force, Canadian NORAD Region, and Continental NORAD Region.

268 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:39:11pm

re: #264 NY Nana

And happy hannuka (I have yet to spell that right), Nana!

269 WhiteRasta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:39:26pm

I was wished a Merry Christmas by my Seik optician, today.

He is such a nice man....

270 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:39:33pm

re: #266 Iron Fist

I thought it was children roasting on an open fire.
:-)

Even I don't dislike kids that much!

271 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:39:50pm

re: #264 NY Nana

A very merry Christmas to all who celebrate it!

Thank you, {NY Nana}! Happy Hanukkah!

272 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:40:18pm

re: #265 Dianna

Merry Christmas to you and your Male! From me and the Girlfriend.

:-)

273 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:41:29pm

[Link: www.noradsanta.org...]

Santa is in Labe, Guinea!

274 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:42:12pm

re: #272 Iron Fist

Thank you!

275 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:42:44pm

re: #270 Dianna

Even I don't dislike kids that much!

Rats!


The children's Christmas concert at my friend's church was titled
"The Star of Bethlehem", and the performance was to open with some
of the children carrying letters to spell the title.

Backstage was a frantic scene of activity getting everyone in the
right order. As the curtain went up and the children appeared on
stage, the audience broke into laughter.

The four children carrying the letters for "S-T-A-R" had come in
reverse order. The title was now "The RATS of Bethlehem".

276 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:42:59pm

I've got Santa in Senegal, for the next 3 minutes.

I guess the reindeer need a breather.

277 lifeofthemind  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:43:48pm

re: #273 notutopia

[Link: www.noradsanta.org...]

Santa is in Labe, Guinea!

Santa is a tourist who said to the cabbie, "Take me from Kennedy to Newark airport."

278 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:44:02pm
279 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:44:26pm

re: #264 NY Nana

Happy Hanukkah, {Nana}!

280 itellu3times  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:44:34pm

re: #268 Dianna

Happy Hanukkah:
Kappa Hah Hunky
Kappa Hanky Huh
Hah Hank Yak Pup
Hah Hank Pap Yuk
Hah Khan Yak Pup
Hah Khan Pap Yuk
Hah Ankh Yak Pup
Hah Ankh Pap Yuk
Hah Hap Yak Punk
Hah Yak Pap Hunk
Hank Yak Pap Huh
Khan Yak Pap Huh
Ankh Yak Pap Huh

Happy Chanukah:
Papacy Hah Hunk
Papacy Khan Huh
Papacy Ankh Huh
Papacy Hank Huh
Aha Happy Chunk
Kappa Hay Hunch
Papa Hah Chunky
Hack Ah Unhappy
Hack Ha Unhappy
A Hack Nappy Huh
A Chap Hap Hunky
A Ah Happy Chunk
A Ha Happy Chunk
A Hah Pap Chunky
Hack Ah Hap Puny
Hack Ah Happy Nu
Hack Ah Nappy Uh
Hack Ha Hap Puny
Hack Ha Happy Nu
Hack Ha Nappy Uh
Hack Hah Pan Yup
Hack Hah Nap Yup
Hack Hah Nay Pup
Hack Hah Any Pup
Hack Hah Pa Puny
...

281 rawmuse  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:45:00pm

Wishing all the Lizards a Merry Christmas, Happy Channukah, and or a Feisty Festivus. I am shuttin' 'er down for the duration. Later, kids!

282 karmapolice  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:45:44pm

Merry Christmas to all my Christian lizards, and Happy Chanukah to my fellow Jewish Lizards! Stay warm and safe!

283 Killian Bundy  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:45:47pm

Wiesel Foundation loses nearly everything in Madoff scheme

The Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity lost more than 15 million dollars -- nearly all of its assets -- in the alleged fraud scheme run by Wall Street baron Bernard Madoff, the fund said Wednesday.

"We are writing to inform you that the Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity had 15.2 million dollars under management with Bernard Madoff Investment Securities," said the foundation, which aims to combat anti-Semitism, on its website.

"This represented substantially all of the Foundation's assets," it said.

"We are deeply saddened and distressed that we, along with many others, have been the victims of what may be one of the largest investment frauds in history."

The statement added that the foundation "remains committed to carrying on the lifelong work of our founder, Elie Wiesel. We shall not be deterred from our mission to combat indifference, intolerance, and injustice around the world."

/that really sucks, hopefully some charitable donors will come through and help

284 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:46:08pm

Speaking of cell phones.

I was just outside burning one and saw a couple of folks walking by. Behavior that would have got you committed a few years back is now considered normal, to wit: apparently talking, laughing or yelling at yourself as you are walking around.

285 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:49:03pm

re: #275 Dustyvet

Oh, Christmas pageant disasters! I've been there! I've done that!

Personal favorite? The year I was Mary's angel, and the girl playing Mary got laryngitis. She got to wear long underwear, lucky thing. I was standing there in a dress that resembled a handkerchief in many ways, and it was bloody cold in the sanctuary.

Let's just say I was "perky", and leave it at that.

Or maybe it was the year that the littlest shepherd fled, and his sister (even littler), ran after him (she was one of the little angels placed along pew ends on the aisle), her chubby little hands still clasped.

That was something of a classic.

Or maybe the year one of our three wise men tripped on his robe and threw his casket so it beaned the baby Jesus in the manger?

Or was it the mystery play, where, when one of our wise men cried, "Look! The star! It moves!" and the star bounded and swooped merrily across the chapel and the entire audience and cast completely lost it?

Christmas pageants! So many disasters!

286 itellu3times  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:49:42pm

re: #278 jcm

CBS outs 86 conservative celebs.

half of these are guilt by association, "you haf bin scene wit a known Republican, wat is yewr esplanakshun?"

287 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:49:52pm

re: #273 notutopia


Santa's in the Labia? Does Mrs. Klause know?

288 NY Nana  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:50:12pm

re: #235 MandyManners

Watch it....coal in your stocking if Santa is checking LGF on his computer while travelling! I heard that he has Wi-Fi. ;)

289 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:50:43pm

re: #284 Outrider

Speaking of cell phones.

I was just outside burning one and saw a couple of folks walking by. Behavior that would have got you committed a few years back is now considered normal, to wit: apparently talking, laughing or yelling at yourself as you are walking around.

P.J. O'Rourke some years ago wrote, "Now you, too, can be mistaken for a mad man raving on the corner!"

290 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:51:06pm

re: #278 jcm

CBS outs 86 conservative celebs.

Notice that all the women are attractive and most of the men are pretty manly. I think that says it all.

291 NY Nana  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:51:17pm

re: #268 Dianna

Thank you! Not to worry: 3 Jews, 7 ways of spelling it.

292 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:51:32pm

Here is my message to Santa Tracking:
TO ALL at the Command center tracking Santa Claus for the world, Thank you for all you do every day of the year for our great country!
Happy Hannukah, Merry Christmas, and
HUGS to each and every one of you!
p.s.
Please Tell Santa not to eat the cookies I have put on the roof. They are wheatgrass and oat cakes for the reindeer....
Unless of course, Santa is a vegetarian...
XOXOXO

I just got TWO emails back. I share them and pass them on to All my Fellow/Fellowess Lizards..

Thank you! And a Very Merry Christmas to you, too!
Thank you very much and I will be sure to tell santa
NOT
to eat those
cookies !

293 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:51:37pm
294 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:52:37pm

re: #293 ploome hineni

see if I as really mean, I would ask Ironfist if he can find his clothes in the morning

but I would NEVER do anything like that

I regard having to ask, "Ah...where are my clothes?" as the sign of a truly lovely evening.

295 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:52:48pm

re: #285 Dianna

Well- their was a pageant I saw where a group of five year olds sang "Felize Navidad". They didn't really know the words in Spanish so well, but when they got to the "I want to wish you a Merry Christmas" part they made sure to give it extra gusto to make up for it. It was actually pretty cute.

296 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:53:10pm

re: #277 lifeofthemind

Santa is on slow warp speed power.....

297 Outrider  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:54:21pm

re: #278 jcm

CBS outs 86 conservative celebs.

I was listening to talk radio last night when they were talking about a new blog site coming on line run by nobody but Republican celebs. As I was ass deep in crazy SUVs whose owners were madly rushing about, I didn't hear the details.

298 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:54:41pm

re: #286 itellu3times

half of these are guilt by association, "you haf bin scene wit a known Republican, wat is yewr esplanakshun?"

The first ones was.......
Brittany? ? ? ?

299 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:55:33pm

re: #278 jcm

CBS outs 86 conservative celebs.

Interesting. and creepy.

why not list "left-wing" hollywooders? Like Radical Sean Penn (who is actually a communist) I guess the list would be too long.
Besides the democrat left consider themselves to be "mainstream". /If commie is now the new mainstream.

300 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:55:42pm

re: #295 Sharmuta

Well- their was a pageant I saw where a group of five year olds sang "Felize Navidad". They didn't really know the words in Spanish so well, but when they got to the "I want to wish you a Merry Christmas" part they made sure to give it extra gusto to make up for it. It was actually pretty cute.

One year - I wasn't actually involved in this one, beyond singing in the choir - our Mary had such severe stage fright that when she was supposed to sing Away in a Manger, she completely forgot the words. Her desperate improvisation was...original? Is that a good description?

In any case, I understand the tape is carefully kept under lock and key, and given to each new choir director as a warning.

301 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:55:44pm
302 sngnsgt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:56:24pm

re: #187 Dustyvet

LOL! That's a keeper! Sir!

303 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:57:09pm

re: #299 FrogMarch

Interesting. and creepy.

why not list "left-wing" hollywooders? Like Radical Sean Penn (who is actually a communist) I guess the list would be too long.
Besides the democrat left consider themselves to be "mainstream". /If commie is now the new mainstream.

I'm surprised they found 86....

304 Geepers  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:57:33pm

notutopia (#292),

Here is my message to Santa Tracking:
TO ALL at the Command center tracking Santa Claus for the world, Thank you for all you do every day of the year for our great country!
Happy Hannukah, Merry Christmas, and
HUGS to each and every one of you!
p.s.
Please Tell Santa not to eat the cookies I have put on the roof. They are wheatgrass and oat cakes for the reindeer....
Unless of course, Santa is a vegetarian...
XOXOXO

I just got TWO emails back. I share them and pass them on to All my Fellow/Fellowess Lizards..

Thank you! And a Very Merry Christmas to you, too!
Thank you very much and I will be sure to tell santa
NOT
to eat those
cookies !

That's great, thanks for posting.

305 pragmatist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:57:43pm

Since it is an open thread ...

Israel has always been a leader in sustainable agriculture.
TAKE THAT far-LEFT WINGERS!

And here is another example ... Gardening in shipping containers
[Link: www.organitech.com...]
(Shamelessly lifted from the blog at makezine.com)

While Palestine is committing war crimes daily by bombarding
civilians - collective punishment by definition - Israel is trying
to feed the world. < sigh >

306 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:57:51pm

re: #298 jcm

The first ones was.......
Brittany? ? ? ?

I really don't get that. Doesn't Rush make fun of her all the time?

307 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:58:00pm

re: #278 jcm

CBS outs 86 conservative celebs.

We got Lord Vader!

308 Fredlike  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:58:04pm

re: #297 Outrider

Well at least a few of my fav, females made the list of 86, and no Brittany is not on my list.

Merry Chrsitmas

309 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:58:30pm

Santa's in Derry! But not in the air!

310 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:58:32pm

re: #289 Dianna

P.J. O'Rourke some years ago wrote, "Now you, too, can be mistaken for a mad man raving on the corner!"

Love it! I'm still getting used to people with Blueteeth and similar apparati -- they look exactly like big-city street-crazies mumbling to themselves.

311 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:58:38pm

re: #307 Sharmuta

We got Lord Vader!

Beat that, Democrats!

312 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:58:52pm

re: #303 jcm

I'm surprised they found 86....

Me too. Still, in hollywood, that is a tiny minority. I used to have a web-site listing the hollywood leftista. It was a long list.

313 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:59:01pm

re: #299 FrogMarch

Damn, man, but if they were listing just the hard core Hollywood Leftists they'd be for all twelve Days of Christmas, and still not have 'em all singled out.

314 unclassifiable  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 3:59:37pm

I now got a Mac Book so I can be a lizard in 2 OS'es

/first mac post in Safari

315 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:00:14pm

re: #314 unclassifiable

I now got a Mac Book so I can be a lizard in 2 OS'es

/first mac post in Safari

Kewl! I'm never getting a computer with Windows again. Ever.

316 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:00:29pm

re: #309 Dianna

Santa's in Derry! But not in the air!

You must be Green -- you left out the "London".

(I'm assuming you mean the city in Northern Ireland?)

317 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:00:43pm

re: #304 Geepers

Hey, man! Merry Christmas! I got your card. Thanks. Me and the Girlfriend didn't get them out this year.

318 Irish Rose  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:01:48pm

Good evening lizards, and a very happy Christmas Eve to you all!
Care to join me in a round of "12 days of Christmas"... in Irish Gaelic?

C'mon... you know you wanna ;).

319 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:01:51pm

Gee, I wonder what Stalin party favors terrorism? The left wing terrorist lovers? [Link: www.dailykos.com...]
Big surprise today.
I figure with his claims to be ex-army, he must have been a complete fuck up. Has must have spent more time masturbating in the barracks latrine then practicing at the range or spent patrolling in the woods,

320 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:01:57pm

Too bad Alan Rickman's not an American. I'd love the Republicans to have Snape.

321 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:02:18pm

re: #318 Irish Rose

Merry Christmas, {Rose}.

322 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:02:21pm

re: #309 Dianna

Dianna are you watching Santa in 3D on google earth?

323 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:02:23pm

What To Say About The "Special" Christmas Gift


10. Hey! There's a gift!

9. Well, well, well ...

8. Boy, if I had not recently shot up 4 sizes that would've fit.

7. This is perfect for wearing around the basement.

6. Gosh. I hope this never catches fire! It is fire season though. There are lots of unexplained fires.

5. If the dog buries it, I'll be furious!

4. I love it -- but I fear the jealousy it will inspire.

3. Sadly, tomorrow I enter the Federal Witness Protection Program.

2. To think -- I got this the year I vowed to give all my gifts to charity.

1. "I really don't deserve this."

324 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:02:28pm

re: #318 Irish Rose

Good evening lizards, and a very happy Christmas Eve to you all!
Care to join me in a round of "12 days of Christmas"... in Irish Gaelic?

C'mon... you know you wanna ;).

Merry Christmas!

325 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:02:50pm

re: #322 notutopia

Dianna are you watching Santa in 3D on google earth?



NORAD Tracks Santa

326 unclassifiable  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:02:53pm

re: #307 Sharmuta

Johnny Ramone.

'cause he didn't wanna be a pinhead no mo'

327 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:03:17pm

re: #320 Sharmuta

Too bad Alan Rickman's not an American. I'd love the Republicans to have Snape.

The actor who played Harry Potter lives in NY now. I wonder if he voted...

328 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:03:32pm

Yay! Sarah Michelle Gellar is a republican!

Go, Buffy!

329 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:04:17pm

re: #328 Dianna

Yay! Sarah Michelle Gellar is a republican!

Go, Buffy!

That one surprised me. Well- that and Lord Vader.

330 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:04:24pm

re: #316 mikalm

You must be Green -- you left out the "London".

(I'm assuming you mean the city in Northern Ireland?)

Yes. It's Derry, to me.

331 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:04:25pm

When I was young, my family was so poor that for Christmas we got
batteries with a note attached saying "Toy not included."

332 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:04:31pm

re: #228 Dianna

Thank you for that. I won't do more than arrange a pick-up from the train station with my Male in public.

Maybe it's a bit much that I won't even say, "Love you," but I've gotten hypersensitive about what I say in public.

Mr. Empire and I are the same way. No public display of affection, because it just doesn't seem proper -- and I'm embarrassed at the way some people actually grope each other in public. Gross!

333 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:04:36pm

Well, warming up....
My yard is slushy mess......

Any one got a couple of gallons of cherry syrup?

334 Geepers  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:04:49pm

Iron Fist,

And a very Merry Christmas to you too.

Hope Santa's got something good for you in his bag of toys.

335 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:05:12pm

re: #322 notutopia

Dianna are you watching Santa in 3D on google earth?

Just watching - 3D didn't appeal.

It's great fun.

336 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:05:23pm

re: #318 Irish Rose

Alan Sherman ruined that song -- among many other classics -- for me many years ago!

337 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:05:36pm

re: #325 gclaghorn

Look at the small bullet links above the screen. You can chose 3D tracking... It's a live geography lesson watching where Santa travels!

338 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:06:09pm
339 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:06:20pm

re: #278 jcm

CBS outs 86 conservative celebs.

Guards - seize them!

340 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:06:22pm

re: #21 buzzsawmonkey

"Shuffle Off to Buffalo," Warren & Dubin, from the film "42nd Street"

Wasn't that one of the answers on "The Honeymooners" episode where Ralph Cramden was a contestant on "The $99,000 Question"?

341 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:06:33pm

re: #337 notutopia

Look at the small bullet links above the screen. You can chose 3D tracking... It's a live geography lesson watching where Santa travels!

Thanks so much! That's extremely cool!

342 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:07:07pm

re: #332 Empire1

Mr. Empire and I are the same way. No public display of affection, because it just doesn't seem proper -- and I'm embarrassed at the way some people actually grope each other in public. Gross!

We have close friends who think we are prudes. I swear, I'm not, I just don't want people staring at me.

A peck on the lips is quite enough. The full tonsil hockey dip is a bit much. Unless I'm bent on embarrassing teenagers, that is.

343 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:07:29pm
344 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:07:36pm

re: #330 Dianna

Yes. It's Derry, to me.

Sort of like how Yankees call a certain skirmish, "The Battle of Bull Run," while Rebs refer to it as "The Battle of Manassas."

345 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:08:00pm

re: #243 Outrider

I didn't even own a cell phone until I tried to rent a car and the woman asked me for my cell phone number. I told her I didn't own one. She then stated, "Yeah, a lot of older people don't use them". Harumph. I'm 54. ;-)>

So now, I've owned one of those Tracphones for about seven or eight months and have yet to make a call..... or get one on the damned thing.

LOL! We finally decided to get one of those when we found out you don't lose the time you buy for them, which was our main reason for not getting one. I think we've made a couple of test calls and one substantive call, and have accumulated something like 6 1/2 hours since getting ours.

346 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:08:19pm

re: #298 jcm

The first ones was.......
Brittany? ? ? ?

Brittany can come into my tent anytime she wants.

347 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:08:26pm

re: #342 Dianna

The full tonsil hockey dip is a bit much. Unless I'm bent on embarrassing teenagers, that is.

LOL! You two must be a riot at parties....

348 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:08:40pm

re: #328 Dianna

Yay! Sarah Michelle Gellar is a republican!

Go, Buffy!

Dr. Phil - for me - is the biggest surprise.

349 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:08:44pm

re: #344 mikalm

Sort of like how Yankees call a certain skirmish, "The Battle of Bull Run," while Rebs refer to it as "The Battle of Manassas."

Much like that - except that I despise and abominate the IRA, and never make heroes of those murderous, incompetent bastards.

350 OldLineTexan  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:08:47pm

re: #309 Dianna

Santa's in Derry! But not in the air!

Ah. 'tis lovely to hear a Dublin tune, but nothin's so lovely as a sweet Derry air.

351 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:09:02pm

re: #285 Dianna

Oh, Christmas pageant disasters! I've been there! I've done that!

Personal favorite? The year I was Mary's angel, and the girl playing Mary got laryngitis. She got to wear long underwear, lucky thing. I was standing there in a dress that resembled a handkerchief in many ways, and it was bloody cold in the sanctuary.

Let's just say I was "perky", and leave it at that.

Or maybe it was the year that the littlest shepherd fled, and his sister (even littler), ran after him (she was one of the little angels placed along pew ends on the aisle), her chubby little hands still clasped.

That was something of a classic.

Or maybe the year one of our three wise men tripped on his robe and threw his casket so it beaned the baby Jesus in the manger?

Or was it the mystery play, where, when one of our wise men cried, "Look! The star! It moves!" and the star bounded and swooped merrily across the chapel and the entire audience and cast completely lost it?

Christmas pageants! So many disasters!

When the kindergarden student playing Joseph in the school
Nativity Play forgot his lines, he was prompted from the side by
a teacher. "You have travelled a very long way, Joseph. You must
be hot and tired. What do you think you would say to the
innkeeper?"

Joseph brightened up, wiped his brow and said, "Boy, do I need a
drink!"

352 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:09:22pm

re: #346 VegasRick

Brittany can come into my tent anytime she wants.

Two whacko, now Kathy Ireland seems nice and stable.... and those eyes....

353 OldLineTexan  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:09:53pm

re: #331 Dustyvet

When I was young, my family was so poor that for Christmas we got
batteries with a note attached saying "Toy not included."

Don't forget the drum with the picture of the Quaker man on it.

/Ten qatloos to the namer of the pop reference

354 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:10:20pm

re: #290 VegasRick
You missed one.
Toby Keith

355 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:10:26pm

re: #342 Dianna

We have close friends who think we are prudes. I swear, I'm not, I just don't want people staring at me.

A peck on the lips is quite enough. The full tonsil hockey dip is a bit much. Unless I'm bent on embarrassing teenagers, that is.

Totally agreed! The "full tonsil hockey dip" (very descriptive!) belongs in private, IMO,

356 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:10:42pm

re: #313 Iron Fist

Damn, man, but if they were listing just the hard core Hollywood Leftists they'd be for all twelve Days of Christmas, and still not have 'em all singled out.

The worst offender: Soderbergh
What an asshole.

357 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:11:05pm

re: #349 Dianna

Much like that - except that I despise and abominate the IRA, and never make heroes of those murderous, incompetent bastards.

Good for you. They, and their Prod counterparts, have largely morphed into organized-crime syndicates -- dealing drugs, running protection rackets, etc. Sort of like what happened to the Black Panthers, albeit on a larger and longer-lasting scale.

358 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:14:35pm

re: #351 Dustyvet

When the kindergarden student playing Joseph in the school
Nativity Play forgot his lines, he was prompted from the side by
a teacher. "You have travelled a very long way, Joseph. You must
be hot and tired. What do you think you would say to the
innkeeper?"

Joseph brightened up, wiped his brow and said, "Boy, do I need a
drink!"

That's like the joke about the little girl in Catechism class who kept forgetting her lessons, so that the Sister in charge got into the habit of prodding her with a knitting needle when she was too slow with an answer.

One day, the Sister asked her, "What was the first thing Eve said to Adam?" When the little girl couldn't think of the answer, and realized what was coming, she yelled out, "Please don't stick that thing in me!"

359 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:14:40pm

Shopping success. Yay!

360 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:15:01pm

re: #348 FrogMarch

Dr. Phil - for me - is the biggest surprise.

Even more than Lord Vader?

361 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:15:19pm

re: #359 fat bastard vegetarian

Shopping success. Yay!


What did you get the wife?

362 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:15:22pm

re: #356 FrogMarch

Wow. That is amazing. Why doesn't he move to the Worker's Paradise of Cuba? I'm sure he'd be happier there. And we'd be happy he was there.

363 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:16:17pm

re: #359 fat bastard vegetarian

Shopping success. Yay!

Did you buy this t-shirt?

364 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:16:18pm

re: #351 Dustyvet

A VERY NICE CHRISTMAS STORY

The "W" in Christmas
Each December, I vowed to make Christmas a calm and peaceful experience.


I had cut back on nonessential obligations - extensive card writing,
endless baking, decorating, and even overspending.


Yet still, I found myself exhausted, unable to appreciate the
precious family moments, and of course, the true meaning of Christmas.


My son, Nicholas, was in kindergarten that year. It was an exciting season
for a six year old.


For weeks, he'd been memorizing songs for his school's "Winter Pageant."


I didn't have the heart to tell him I'd be working the night of the
production. Unwilling to miss his shining moment, I spoke with his teacher.
She assured me there'd be a dress rehearsal the morning of the presentation.


All parents unable to attend that evening were welcome to come then.


Fortunately, Nicholas seemed happy with the compromise.


So, the morning of the dress rehearsal, I filed in ten minutes early,
found a spot on the cafeteria floor and sat down. Around the room, I saw
several other parents quietly scampering to their seats. As I waited, the
students were led into the room. Each class, accompanied by their teacher,
sat cross-legged on the floor. Then, each group, one by one, rose to perform
their song.


Because the public school system had long stopped referring to the holiday
as "Christmas," I didn't expect anything other than fun, commercial
entertainment songs of reindeer, Santa Claus, snowflakes and good cheer.


So, when my son's class rose to sing, "Christmas Love," I was slightly
taken aback by its bold title.


Nicholas was aglow, as were all of his classmates, adorned in fuzzy
mittens, red sweaters, and bright snowcaps upon their heads.


Those in the front row- center stage - held up large letters, one by one,
to spell out the title of the song.


As the class would sing "C is for Christmas," a child would hold up the
letter C. Then, "H is for Happy," and on and on, until each child holding
up his portion had presented the complete message, "Christmas Love."


The performance was going smoothly, until suddenly, we noticed her; a
small, quiet, girl in the front row holding the letter "M" upside down -
totally unaware her letter "M" appeared as a "W".


The audience of 1st through 6th graders snickered at this little one's
mistake. But she had no idea they were laughing at her, so she stood tall,
proudly holding her "W".


Although many teachers tried to shush the children, the laughter
;continued until the last letter was raised, and we all saw it together.


A hush came over the audience and eyes began to widen.


In that instant, we understood the reason we were there, why we celebrated
the holiday in the first place, why even in the chaos, there was a purpose
for our festivities.


For when the last letter was held high, the message read loud and clear:


"C H R I S T W A S L O V E"


And, I believe, He still is. Amazed in His presence... humbled by His love.


Again, HAVE A BLESSED CHRISTMAS SEASON

365 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:17:11pm

Christmas Fairies


Once upon a time, in the Christmas Tree Forest there lived the
Christmas fairies. They spent most of their time practising
sitting on top of the Christmas trees. There was just one rule
they had to stick to... it was strictly forbidden for a fairy to
kiss anyone!

The trouble was that Floella was a wicked little fairy. One day
Harry the Hare was hopping through the forest when he saw Floella
sitting on top of a toadstool, combing her hair. Floella said,
"Hello, handsome, give us a kiss!"

Harry the Hare was shocked. "Father Christmas doesn't allow that!"
he gasped. "Anyone caught kissing a fairy will be turned straight
away into Goon!"

But Floella tickled his ears - just the way hares love and
whispered, "Don't worry, we won't get caught!"

Harry the Hare trembled with fear and excitement. He looked
carefully over his furry brown shoulder, saw that no one was
looking ... and kissed Floella the fairy!

Suddenly there was a FLASH, a CRASH and a mighty WHOOSH! of
wind. Through the magic of the Christmas Tree Forest Harry the
Hare found himself in the court of Father Christmas! And Father
Christmas was furious! "Harry the Hare! You have been found guilty
of kissing a forest fairy! Have you anything to say?"

"I never meant to!" Harry snivelled. "If you let me off I promise
I'll never do it again just please, please! PLEASE! don't turn
me into a Goon!"

Father Christmas took pity on the pathetic creature and said,
"I'll give you one more chance, but just one more!"

Again there was a FLASH, a CRASH and a mighty WHOOSH of wind.
Harry the Hare found himself back in the forest.

And there, combing her hair on a toadstool was Floella the Fairy.
"Hiya, handsome," she whispered. "Give us a kiss!"

Harry was horrified! "Certainly not!" he cried.

But when she tickled his ears his legs turned to jelly and he
started to tremble. "Oooh! No! I'll be turned into a Goon!"

"For one little kiss from me it's worth it!" Floella murmured.

And Harry the Hare gave in. He kissed the fairy.

Once more there was a FLASH, a CRASH and a mighty WHOOSH! of
wind. And once again Harry the Hare found himself in front of the
now furious Father Christmas!

"You foolish hare!" Father Christmas roared. "You have had your
chance! Guards! Take him away - turn him into a Goon immediately!"

"Please Father Christmas," implored Harry. "Can't my penalty at
least wait until tomorrow? After all, it's Christmas day."

"Very well," answered Father Christmas, "Take him away, but don't
turn him into a Goon until tomorrow!"

Harry the Hare hung his head and let himself be led away. As he
reached the door of the court he turned to all the gnomes and
forest creatures and said tearfully, "Ah, well, that's life! Hare
today ... and Goon tomorrow!"

366 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:18:38pm

re: #360 Sharmuta

Even more than Lord Vader?

ok - it's a tie. Mr Jones is a surprise. A nice one.
Why Dr. Phil is a surprise is his connection to the Oprah.

367 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:19:25pm

re: #364 VegasRick
Very beautiful and made me cry. Merry Christmas

368 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:19:44pm

re: #361 Cathypop

Okay. So I sent the daughter to the Jewelry Department at Sears (surprisingly nice selection) and told her to find something (my wife is so fickle about stuff, and I am a moron, so I sent a professional)...she picked out something, the store held it for me and I picked it up.

Really pretty silver bracelet with dark (maybe cancerous?) pearls on the ends. Then, not being able to stand it, got the matching earrings and necklace.

Y'all watch out. FBV may get lucky!

369 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:19:51pm

re: #367 Cathypop

Very beautiful and made me cry. Merry Christmas

Thanks.

370 Kenneth  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:20:08pm

Dear Charles, Irish Rose, JCM, Buzz, hous bin pharteen, Iron Fist, Frog March, Old Line Texan, Geepers, Dusty Vet, NY Nana, lifeofthemind, Sharmuta, Killian, Mandy, Miss Trixie,

...and anybody else I may have missed,

Merry Christmas to All!

371 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:20:46pm

re: #364 VegasRick

A VERY NICE CHRISTMAS STORY

The "W" in Christmas
Each December, I vowed to make Christmas a calm and peaceful experience.


I had cut back on nonessential obligations - extensive card writing,
endless baking, decorating, and even overspending.


Yet still, I found myself exhausted, unable to appreciate the
precious family moments, and of course, the true meaning of Christmas.


My son, Nicholas, was in kindergarten that year. It was an exciting season
for a six year old.


For weeks, he'd been memorizing songs for his school's "Winter Pageant."


I didn't have the heart to tell him I'd be working the night of the
production. Unwilling to miss his shining moment, I spoke with his teacher.
She assured me there'd be a dress rehearsal the morning of the presentation.


All parents unable to attend that evening were welcome to come then.


Fortunately, Nicholas seemed happy with the compromise.


So, the morning of the dress rehearsal, I filed in ten minutes early,
found a spot on the cafeteria floor and sat down. Around the room, I saw
several other parents quietly scampering to their seats. As I waited, the
students were led into the room. Each class, accompanied by their teacher,
sat cross-legged on the floor. Then, each group, one by one, rose to perform
their song.


Because the public school system had long stopped referring to the holiday
as "Christmas," I didn't expect anything other than fun, commercial
entertainment songs of reindeer, Santa Claus, snowflakes and good cheer.


So, when my son's class rose to sing, "Christmas Love," I was slightly
taken aback by its bold title.


Nicholas was aglow, as were all of his classmates, adorned in fuzzy
mittens, red sweaters, and bright snowcaps upon their heads.


Those in the front row- center stage - held up large letters, one by one,
to spell out the title of the song.


As the class would sing "C is for Christmas," a child would hold up the
letter C. Then, "H is for Happy," and on and on, until each child holding
up his portion had presented the complete message, "Christmas Love."


The performance was going smoothly, until suddenly, we noticed her; a
small, quiet, girl in the front row holding the letter "M" upside down -
totally unaware her letter "M" appeared as a "W".


The audience of 1st through 6th graders snickered at this little one's
mistake. But she had no idea they were laughing at her, so she stood tall,
proudly holding her "W".


Although many teachers tried to shush the children, the laughter
;continued until the last letter was raised, and we all saw it together.


A hush came over the audience and eyes began to widen.


In that instant, we understood the reason we were there, why we celebrated
the holiday in the first place, why even in the chaos, there was a purpose
for our festivities.


For when the last letter was held high, the message read loud and clear:


"C H R I S T W A S L O V E"


And, I believe, He still is. Amazed in His presence... humbled by His love.


Again, HAVE A BLESSED CHRISTMAS SEASON

Very touching. Thank you for sharing.

372 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:20:59pm

re: #370 Kenneth

And a very Merry Christmas to you!

373 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:21:08pm

re: #370 Kenneth

Dear Charles, Irish Rose, JCM, Buzz, hous bin pharteen, Iron Fist, Frog March, Old Line Texan, Geepers, Dusty Vet, NY Nana, lifeofthemind, Sharmuta, Killian, Mandy, Miss Trixie,

...and anybody else I may have missed,

Merry Christmas to All!

Back at'cha, Kenneth! And a Happy 2009!

374 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:21:10pm

*groan*

*thump*

375 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:21:14pm

re: #368 fat bastard vegetarian

Okay. So I sent the daughter to the Jewelry Department at Sears (surprisingly nice selection) and told her to find something (my wife is so fickle about stuff, and I am a moron, so I sent a professional)...she picked out something, the store held it for me and I picked it up.

Really pretty silver bracelet with dark (maybe cancerous?) pearls on the ends. Then, not being able to stand it, got the matching earrings and necklace.

Y'all watch out. FBV may get lucky!

You will definetly be gettin some tomorrow! You did good! And she has good taste in husbands.

376 debutaunt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:21:30pm

re: #320 Sharmuta

Too bad Alan Rickman's not an American. I'd love the Republicans to have Snape.

He was wonderful in Something the Lord Made.

377 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:21:55pm

re: #367 Cathypop

Very beautiful and made me cry. Merry Christmas

Great. Thanks Rick. What a jerk, making people cry. You should be ashamed!

/

378 OldLineTexan  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:22:00pm

re: #370 Kenneth

Why, thank you. Merry Christmas to you too.

/Santa's on a three-hour wait for action.

379 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:22:17pm

re: #370 Kenneth

Dear Charles, Irish Rose, JCM, Buzz, hous bin pharteen, Iron Fist, Frog March, Old Line Texan, Geepers, Dusty Vet, NY Nana, lifeofthemind, Sharmuta, Killian, Mandy, Miss Trixie,

...and anybody else I may have missed,

Merry Christmas to All!

And to you, luv. *mwah* Christmas blessings to you and yours. :)

380 Geepers  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:22:29pm

And a very Merry Christmas to you too Kenneth

381 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:22:56pm

re: #365 Dustyvet

You've forced me to do this.

IT'S NOT MY FAULT!

382 Colonel Panik  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:23:02pm

re: #328 Dianna

Yay! Sarah Michelle Gellar is a republican!

Go, Buffy!

"Buffy" is an NRA member and quite the firearms enthusiast.

383 fat bastard vegetarian  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:23:04pm

re: #376 debutaunt

A very special movie.

384 Cathypop  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:23:23pm

re: #377 fat bastard vegetarian

It is okay to cry. Releases pent up ugly things. I should know because there are a ton of them around me.

385 mikalm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:23:24pm

Gotta run, Lizards. To those of you who I don't see in the next couple of days, Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukah!

386 sngnsgt  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:23:29pm

re: #290 VegasRick

Notice that all the women are attractive and most of the men are pretty manly. I think that says it all.

I noticed that, who'da-thunk? Dean (Superman) Kain a republican.

387 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:23:47pm

re: #377 fat bastard vegetarian

Great. Thanks Rick. What a jerk, making people cry. You should be ashamed!

/

It's Christmas!
/

388 jcm  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:23:49pm

re: #379 Miss Trixie

And to you, luv. *mwah* Christmas blessings to you and yours. :)

Are we under the mistletoe?

good

*mwah*
{Miss Trixie}

Merry Christmas.

389 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:25:19pm

re: #378 OldLineTexan

Why, thank you. Merry Christmas to you too.

/Santa's on a three-hour wait for action.

It's all that Christmas cheer in Ireland. The reindeer must be shaking their heads.

390 notutopia  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:25:44pm

Merry Christmas Kenneth!

391 Dianna  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:25:55pm

re: #382 Colonel Panik

"Buffy" is an NRA member and quite the firearms enthusiast.

I did not know that! Thanks!

392 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:26:45pm
393 Empire1  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:27:26pm

re: #370 Kenneth

Dear Charles, Irish Rose, JCM, Buzz, hous bin pharteen, Iron Fist, Frog March, Old Line Texan, Geepers, Dusty Vet, NY Nana, lifeofthemind, Sharmuta, Killian, Mandy, Miss Trixie,

...and anybody else I may have missed,

Merry Christmas to All!

And a very Merry Christmas to you, too, Kenneth! Also a happy and prosperous New year!

394 OldLineTexan  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:27:29pm

re: #389 Dianna

It's all that Christmas cheer in Ireland. The reindeer must be shaking their heads.

I realized after I posted that that looked like "FBV action". I assure you all that it merely means filling stockings and putting out some minor loot.

Although it would be nice if she wanted to be naughty...

395 Miss Trixie  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:27:35pm

JCM

*blush*

A very Merry Christmas to you too! *mwah*

396 OldLineTexan  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:28:34pm

Tomorrow it is off to Grandma and Grandpa's for Grandma's birthday party.

On return, I get to play Legos!

397 Colonel Panik  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:28:55pm

re: #278 jcm

CBS outs 86 conservative celebs.

Looks like Jamie Farr is indeed a "bitter" Klinger!

398 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:28:56pm

re: #349 Dianna
As a fellow Irishmen, the IRA is not what it once was
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...] When they became the Provo's, they became a bunch of asshole, like the Weather Underground.

399 LeePro  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:29:05pm

re: #129 MandyManners

Santa's in Cameroon!

If you get a spare moment, please send a message to the men and women at NORAD who are tracking Santa and have a fantastic Web site.

Sent.

Dear gals and guys,

This is such a wonderful thing that you do year after year for all the still-believing children everywhere!

Thank you. Thank you so very, very much from the bottom of my heart to the breadth of yours!

- another believer, age 66


Thanks, Mandy!

400 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:34:27pm

re: #356 FrogMarch

Including those assholes that wear his shirt.

401 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:38:02pm

re: #370 Kenneth

Like that babe Palin from Alaska would say, "right back at ya!"

402 Elcid  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:51:18pm
403 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:51:34pm

re: #389 Dianna

The reindeer must have gotten in the Baileys again! Damn leprechaun cavalry!

404 doriangrey  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:54:02pm

re: #403 hous bin pharteen

The reindeer must have gotten in the Baileys again! Damn leprechaun cavalry!

I was wondering what happened to my Baileys.... ;)

405 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 4:58:02pm

re: #403 hous bin pharteen

It wasn't me!

406 abolitionist  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:32:50pm

re: #247 abolitionist

In regard to my videos not playing issue, I found/fixed the problem. Wasn't a OS-too-old problem after all.

After re-enabling UnPlug extension for firefox, I found I could still download a video from youtube as a file.FLV but still, it would not play. However, I got error message about a required file, MSASN1.DLL not found.

Restored a copy of required file into appropriate directory, and all is well. (Crossing fingers)

That file apparently got clobbered recently as a consequence of my trying to remedy some networking/filesharing issues by temporarily installing Active Directory Client Extension for 98se. That and some registry tweeking was supposed to let 95/98/98se play nice with Vista's insistence on using only NTLM2 authentication with all local network peers. BTW, this was recommended on a forum by one of m-soft's MVPs.

It didn't help. My 98se still can't see/access shares on Vista machines.

What's worse, I find "The Dsclient.exe does not perform safe version detection and may overwrite later hotfix versions of system files that have been installed."

That means the install overwrites newer stuff with older stuff. Afterward, one is supposed to re-apply all the QFE/hotfix/updates since whenever. Of course, they're no longer available. Only got a hint of that gotcha after proceeding halfway thru the installation, so beware. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283261/EN-US/

And Merry Christmas. Befriend A Geek

407 badbear  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:38:07pm

re: #225 yochanan

Beautiful. And you have friends, even if we aren't wielding power at the moment.

408 Dustyvet[deleted]  Wed, Dec 24, 2008 5:41:05pm

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