Fuck him. Merry Christmas Lizards.

And just how does Ahmadinnerjacket know what Christ would do if he were alive today?

Beauty may be skin deep, but ugly goes to the bone.

re: #1 Erik The Red

Fuck him. Merry Christmas Lizards.

That's the best first comment ever.

I wonder if Ahmadinehad realizes when he talks about bullies and warmongers he's describing himself.

Why is this guy still breathing? What a fuck stick. Fuck him and his ugly wife.

There he went and made me curse on Christmas Day. Motherf***ker!

Because nothing says "lets celebrate the birth of Jesus" then a rant from an evil little short pricked, genocidal murdering bastard. F- "Channel 4".

Government rebukes Channel 4 for Ahmadinejad broadcast

From that link:
'The Foreign and Commonwealth Office said that handing a platform to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has called the Holocaust “a myth”, would cause widespread offence, despite the President striking a conciliatory tone.

A spokeswoman for the FCO said: “President Ahmadinejad has, during his time in office, made a series of appalling anti-Semitic statements. The British media are rightly free to make their own editorial choices, but this invitation will cause offence and bemusement not just at home but amongst friendly countries abroad.”

Since he persists in being arrogant enough to act as God's spokesman, or as a Prophet's prophet, perhaps the Boss needs to call him in for consultations?

My [blank] [blank] w00t

Let's make him stay being a Hitler Wannabe.

re: #6 x-wing

"Fuck him and his ugly wife."

F- him and all of his ugly wives.

A question for Ahmadinnerjacket: Undoubtedly, Christ would support YOUR bullying and warmongering, am I correct?

I thought so.

This... is... JNN (Jihad News Network)... /

re: #4 Sharmuta

That's the best first comment ever.

And is was my first ever.

re: #14 lawhawk

This... is... JNN (Jihad News Network)... /

Hey, is that Christiane Amanpour?

/

re: #4 Sharmuta

That's the best first comment ever.

I wouldn't do that to him... it could give you spotted dick... (previous thread).

Channel 4 is starting to catch some flak for this.

Outrage over Channel 4 broadcast of Iranian president's 'dangerous' alternative Christmas message

Israeli Ambassador Ron Prosor said: 'In Iran, converts to Christianity face the death penalty. It is perverse that this despot is allowed to speculate on the views of Jesus, while his government leads Christ's followers to the gallows.'

and

Human rights campaigner Peter Tatchell joined the attack, and called on the broadcaster to 'pull the plug on this criminal despot, who ranks with Robert Mugabe, Omar al-Bashir of Sudan and the Burmese military junta as one of the world's most bloody tyrants'.

Some people do understand him.

"January First marks the beginning of the new Christian year, 2009."

As opposed to what, the same islamic year, 666?

I wonder what reference date she uses?

Amidst the usual waffle, the BeeB has the following quotes:
"Labour MP Louise Ellman, chairwoman of the Labour Jewish Movement, said: "I condemn Channel 4's decision to give an unchallenged platform to a dangerous fanatic who denies the holocaust while preparing for another, and claims homosexuality does not exist while his regime hangs gay young men from cranes in the street.
"Who will deliver next year's alternative Christmas message? Will it be David Irving or Robert Mugabe?"

And:
"Israeli Ambassador Ron Prosor said: "In Iran, converts to Christianity face the death penalty. It is perverse that this despot is allowed to speculate on the views of Jesus, while his government leads Christ's followers to the gallows."
He said Channel 4's decision to broadcast the message was a "scandal and a national embarrassment" and in "its search for ratings and shock factor, Channel 4 has lost its ethical way".

Channel 4 deserves Ahmadinejad. Let him move to the UK. All of this propaganda is just an attempt to disrupt
Christmas.
IT DIDN'T WORK Channel 4 ! Intellectuals in Britain, enjoy your programming...

I realize that Chanel 4 does this every year for sensationalism and shock value but this does go too far. There's little doubt in my mind that they would allow Stalin or Hitler the same platform.

Christ lived in an occupied territory, ruled by a bullying, war loving empire. Jesus lived in one of the most militant, expansionist, colonizing, tyrannical societies the world has ever known. The closest he came to politics or commenting about this despotic power was, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's."

He forgave the woman caught in adultery and about to be stoned, sending her on her way. When did Mohammad do that?

He said to love your enemies and to do good to those who mistreat you. When did Mohammad do that?

Peter took up a sword to defend Jesus. Jesus rebuked Peter and told him to throw down his sword. When did Mohammad tell anyone that?

How this clown thinks he can speak for what Christ would do is the height of arrogance.

Hey Dinner jacket, get the beam out of your own eye before you start talking about th sliver in others.

Meanwhile, the US media continues to get all hot and bothered by Obama working out - and gets breathless over his shirtless romps for the cameras. They're more interested in his workout regime than whether Obama and his cronies were busy cutting deals with Blagojevich.

Yeah, how about that Blagojevich eh? They're going to take the campaign at its word that they didn't do anything wrong? No wonder the NYT and everyone else in the industry is looking at lower revenues, closures, consolidations, and bankruptcy. They're already morally bankrupt, but the bottom line isn't quite there yet. It will be soon.

re: #19 solomonpanting

As opposed to what, the same islamic year, 666?

I wonder what reference date she uses?

All churches I know begin their year on September 1st. And the day starts at dusk.

If Christ was on Earth today . . .

Yes, he believes in Jesus.

/and no, he's not using this message to wish Christians a Merry Christmas, he's foreshadowing their destruction according to the Koran

re: #23 David IV of Georgia

Christ lived in an occupied territory, ruled by a bullying, war loving empire. Jesus lived in one of the most militant, expansionist, colonizing, tyrannical societies the world has ever known. The closest he came to politics or commenting about this despotic power was, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's."

He forgave the woman caught in adultery and about to be stoned, sending her on her way. When did Mohammad do that?

He said to love your enemies and to do good to those who mistreat you. When did Mohammad do that?

Peter took up a sword to defend Jesus. Jesus rebuked Peter and told him to throw down his sword. When did Mohammad tell anyone that?

Mohammad would be too busy, he's out collecting rocks for the stoning.

From the comment by Ruth Gledhill in The Times (London):

"Although a cursory reading of the message might at first indicate so, a devout Muslim can surely not be embracing the millenarian philosophy that some read into the last book of the Bible, Revelation, and that prophesies the return of Christ and his Church to rule for a thousand years at the end of the world.

It sounds more like an invitation to embrace "umma", the Islamic worldwide family, with an offer of a place for all the Abrahamic faiths, incuding the Children of Israel, although they are not named.

All well and good, peaceful and loving. Very Christmassy in fact.

Islam demands its enemies be given the option to convert before they are attacked.

Can this be why I am suddenly so terrified?"

(Emphasis by me)

re: #9 lifeofthemind

Since he persists in being arrogant enough to act as God's spokesman, or as a Prophet's prophet, perhaps the Boss needs to recall him in for consultations?

There, fixed that for ya!

re: #22 Killgore Trout

I realize that Chanel 4 does this every year for sensationalism and shock value but this does go too far. There's little doubt in my mind that they would allow Stalin or Hitler the same platform.

In a government-run media this passes for fairness. There's another example in Belgium.

re: #22 Killgore Trout

I realize that Chanel 4 does this every year for sensationalism and shock value but this does go too far. There's little doubt in my mind that they would allow Stalin or Hitler the same platform.

Come on Channel 4 is following in an infamous British tradition going all the way back to Neville Chamberlain.
After all, Chamberlain believed that Hitler could be reasoned with. Britain needs Churchill more than at any other period in its history.

re: #25 lawhawk

I'm so tried of the Media drooling over That One&#8482. They act like he could pick up a turd from the clean end.

Technical note, his constant use of the phrase "undoubtedly" shows his marxist training. It was a signature rhetorical trick in the Old Left to preface their flimsiest arguments by saying "As everyone knows."

re: #29 yma o hyd

From the comment by Ruth Gledhill in The Times (London):

"Although a cursory reading of the message might at first indicate so, a devout Muslim can surely not be embracing the millenarian philosophy that some read into the last book of the Bible, Revelation, and that prophesies the return of Christ and his Church to rule for a thousand years at the end of the world.

It sounds more like an invitation to embrace "umma", the Islamic worldwide family, with an offer of a place for all the Abrahamic faiths, incuding the Children of Israel, although they are not named.

All well and good, peaceful and loving. Very Christmassy in fact.

Islam demands its enemies be given the option to convert before they are attacked annihilate the enemy.

Can this be why I am suddenly so terrified?"

(Emphasis by me)

I hope the British people boycotted this garbage and let these morons have it.

Oh, and eff you hairy munchkin.

re: #26 David IV of Georgia

All churches I know begin their year on September 1st. And the day starts at dusk.

But when churches advertise coming events what calendar do they use?

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Something is seriously rotten in the UK for such a major TV channel to broadcast this travesty.

On the other hand, the US also has a serious moral problem in that it gave this Hitler wannabe a visa into the country 3 times to address the UN - one of the world's premier organizations of bigotry and hate. Columbia University and Obama "bag lady" Penny Pritzker stooped to the basest moral denominator by giving this genocidal monster the opportunity to address otherwise respectible venues.

re: #32 shanec99

Come on Channel 4 is following in an infamous British tradition going all the way back to Neville Chamberlain.
After all, Chamberlain believed that Hitler could be reasoned with. Britain needs Churchill more than at any other period in its history.

I think Islam can be reasoned with in the same manner that Hitler was reasoned with: On the beaches, in the air, at sea, in the towns and villages, in the farms and forests...

re: #33 x-wing

I'm so tried of the Media drooling over That One™. They act like he could pick up a turd from the clean end.

Posted with no further comment...;)

[Link: th01.deviantart.com...]

re: #25 lawhawk

Meanwhile, the US media continues to get all hot and bothered by Obama working out - and gets breathless over his shirtless romps for the cameras. They're more interested in his workout regime than whether Obama and his cronies were busy cutting deals with Blagojevich.

Yeah, how about that Blagojevich eh? They're going to take the campaign at its word that they didn't do anything wrong? No wonder the NYT and everyone else in the industry is looking at lower revenues, closures, consolidations, and bankruptcy. They're already morally bankrupt, but the bottom line isn't quite there yet. It will be soon.

Then Mr. Fitness lights up a smoke when the cameras go away.

Absolute drivel of the highest order.

re: #38 ashan

Something is seriously rotten in the UK for such a major TV channel to broadcast this travesty.

On the other hand, the US also has a serious moral problem in that it gave this Hitler wannabe a visa into the country 3 times to address the UN - one of the world's premier organizations of bigotry and hate. Columbia University and Obama "bag lady" Penny Pritzker stooped to the basest moral denominator by giving this genocidal monster the opportunity to address otherwise respectible venues.

Don't know if you can blame the US? Maybe the fucking UN?

Oh, this is priceless. No one knows who set up the Grad-type katuyshas in Southern Lebanon right under UNIFIL noses and were aimed at Israel.

Anyone else think that Hizbullah was about to provide an assist for Hamas? I do.

re: #29 yma o hyd

From the comment by Ruth Gledhill in The Times (London):

"Although a cursory reading of the message might at first indicate so, a devout Muslim can surely not be embracing the millenarian philosophy that some read into the last book of the Bible, Revelation, and that prophesies the return of Christ and his Church to rule for a thousand years at the end of the world.

It sounds more like an invitation to embrace "umma", the Islamic worldwide family, with an offer of a place for all the Abrahamic faiths, incuding the Children of Israel, although they are not named.

All well and good, peaceful and loving. Very Christmassy in fact.

Islam demands its enemies be given the option to convert before they are attacked.

Can this be why I am suddenly so terrified?"

(Emphasis by me)

Yes. This is an invitation to convert to Islam, which, upon rejection, will leave the UK open to attack. Channel 4 stepped in doo-doo big time.

re: #39 David IV of Georgia

I think Islam can be reasoned with in the same manner that Hitler was reasoned with: On the beaches, in the air, at sea, in the towns and villages, in the farms and forests...

...and their military bases, and their nuclear labs....

re: #43 lawhawk

Oh, this is priceless. No one knows who set up the Grad-type katuyshas in Southern Lebanon right under UNIFIL noses and were aimed at Israel.

Anyone else think that Hizbullah was about to provide an assist for Hamas? I do.

Those Lebanese Amish...always with the jokes...

re: #29 yma o hyd

It's called a da'wa. And Ahmadinejad has repeatedly made them against the West and President Bush, the US, and the Europeans. Convert to Islam, or face the consequences.

re: #46 David IV of Georgia

No No! Not those pesky Lebanese Mennonites again!

re: #29 yma o hyd
{yma o hyd}
Whether the smug evil bastard accomplishes his terrorism through the Koran by encoding fear in it's promises to rid the world of Christians and non-believers of Islam, or by an actual terrorist act, he does not have preference.
Keep yourself from harms way.
Do not succumb to his terror threats.
Channel 4 needs to be chastised and made a mockery of and penalized for programming this spectacle of sensationalism and hate.

re: #43 lawhawk

Actually it wouldn't surprise me if the UN peacekeepers were planning to bomb Israel with them.

re: #25 lawhawk

Meanwhile, the US media continues to get all hot and bothered by Obama working out - and gets breathless over his shirtless romps for the cameras.

I think they are trying to recreate Camelot, they did a lot of this with Kennedy, show him swimming and such. It's the MSM attempt to harken back to an age when they were relevant.

Can we start growing mushrooms in Iran yet?

re: #39 David IV of Georgia

I think Islam can be reasoned with in the same manner that Hitler was reasoned with: On the beaches, in the air, at sea, in the towns and villages, in the farms and forests...

Hitler was not reasoned with... he was resisted, fought and thwarted by righteous and heroic men who would not allow a despotic ruler to achieve his vision. Chief among the heroes was Sir Winston Churchill.
Here are somethings that Sir Winston had to say that should ring loudly in London today:
"... the Mahommedan religion increases, instead of lessening, the fury of intolerance. It was originally propagated by the sword, and ever since, its votaries have been subject, above the people of all other creeds, to this form of madness."
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

re: #52 doriangrey

Can we start growing mushrooms in Iran yet?

Strictly Red Hashish

re: #52 doriangrey

Perhaps an airshow or two...

re: #52 doriangrey

Perhaps a mushroom cloud....

JKJKJKJKJK

re: #36 JammieWearingFool

I hope the British people boycotted this garbage and let these morons have it.

Oh, and eff you hairy munchkin.

The overwhelming majority of us Brits watched The Queen - and if any of you feel inclined to see and hear her yourselves, theres a link to the Royal Channel on youtube at the top of the page.

The leftist media overseas and here in the USA rushes to embrace the West's enemies with open arms. You just know the producers at Channel 4 are orgasmic over their "clever choice" of an "alternative" "Christmas" speaker. You know they are! And their leftist media cousins here in the USA are very jealous right now.

Remember all the people in Iran who oppose their government or who are targeted by their government.

These two guys are both in the USA now, thank God, but here is a very compelling picture of them when they were not:

Fakhravar and Batebi in prison in Iraq

Amir-Abbas Fakhravar

Ahmad Batebi

re: #1 Erik The Red

Fuck him. Merry Christmas Lizards.

LOL! You knew Mandy would ding this up.

re: #38 ashan

Something is seriously rotten in the UK for such a major TV channel to broadcast this travesty.

On the other hand, the US also has a serious moral problem in that it gave this Hitler wannabe a visa into the country 3 times to address the UN - one of the world's premier organizations of bigotry and hate. Columbia University and Obama "bag lady" Penny Pritzker stooped to the basest moral denominator by giving this genocidal monster the opportunity to address otherwise respectible venues.

Channel 4 is not a major UK TV Channel - its a comemrcial playground for Guardian readers and such, and gets at most 4 million viewers, tops - thats for something really gripping, like cricket ...

re: #55 David IV of Georgia

Perhaps an airshow or two...

And on the Twelfth day of Christmas the US sent Iran..... 12 B2 stealth fighters in a fly over over Tehran... ;)

re: #42 Erik The Red

Don't know if you can blame the US? Maybe the fucking UN?

I blame the US, well the immigration authority, for giving him a visa to enter the US 3 times in order for him to enter the US. (In order to get to the UN, you have to enter the US.) You can be sure that the highest echelons of our government and security organizations were well aware of this.

In the past, other US enemies were granted a visa to enter the US to get to the UN and sleep at some NYC hotel: Kruschev, Castro, Arafat, (T)hugo Chavez. But none have been so amoral and vicious as Ahmadinejad. (Although I would put the pistol-packing Arafat in the same category, but he wasn't developing nukes.) A-jad is also a direct threat to the US, as well as to Israel. His terrorists are behind many of the attacks against US forces in Iraq, and he has been funneling weapons to the Taliban in Afghanistan.

re: #47 lawhawk

It's called a da'wa. And Ahmadinejad has repeatedly made them against the West and President Bush, the US, and the Europeans. Convert to Islam, or face the consequences.

Yep.
If this 'speech' makes a few more of the London intelligentsia nd glitterati think a bit about what Islam is about - then Mr.A might actually have done us all a service.

Mind - I do have my doubts about the capacity for thought prevalent in the London drawing rooms of the glitterati ...

But the question remains, as always with moonbats: Are they stupid ... or evil? Stupid ... or evil? Because how can those educated twits at Channel 4 NOT know Dinnerjacket's intent, how can they NOT know what this is really about? They MUST know! And is it a game to them, is it fun to them to play this game because ... why? Because its effects have not yet become real? Because only some of their tube trains were blown up, and a bus, but London or Leeds haven't yet been poison-gassed? What will it take? To give this monster airtime on Christmas Day of all days raises the evil-or-stupid question to the max. I always ask it when genocidal Black Panthers and Bill Ayers-terrorist-types are given the honor (and paid) to be commencement speakers at college graduations. Who is handing out these honors.? Are they stupid ... or evil?

What a sickening message and that ghoulish Witch pisses me off too...

re: #18 Bubblehead II

Channel 4 is starting to catch some flak for this.

Outrage over Channel 4 broadcast of Iranian president's 'dangerous' alternative Christmas message

Israeli Ambassador Ron Prosor said: 'In Iran, converts to Christianity face the death penalty. It is perverse that this despot is allowed to speculate on the views of Jesus, while his government leads Christ's followers to the gallows.'

and

Human rights campaigner Peter Tatchell joined the attack, and called on the broadcaster to 'pull the plug on this criminal despot, who ranks with Robert Mugabe, Omar al-Bashir of Sudan and the Burmese military junta as one of the world's most bloody tyrants'.

Some people do understand him.

Dime-a-dozen armchair finger waggers. BFD

re: #53 shanec99

When I said "in the same manner" I guess I wasn't clear: reasoned with in the sense of the Battle of Britian, the sinking of the Graf Spee, Operation Torch, Overlord, Market Garden, and the like.

re: #62 doriangrey

And on the Twelfth day of Christmas the US sent Iran..... 12 B2 stealth fighters bombersin a fly over over Tehran... ;)

Doh...... ;)

A teacher I once had used to say "open-mindedness is all well and good as long as you're not so open-minded that your brains fall out".

Alas, sometimes the unintended consequence of our "inclusiveness" is brain tissue on the pavement.....literally as well as figuratively.

Merry Christmas Lizards, and may ye keep your brains securely ensconced in ye skulls!

re: #49 notutopia

Channel 4 needs indeed to be taken down a peg or two - at the moment they feel like a naughty little boy, leaving a mess on the carpet just before the guests arrive.

Looks like their top manager won't be getting his 'Sir' any time soon, after that - if at all.

Look at Ahmedinjihad and his Islamist creed in contrast to the surviving Christians we talked about on the last thread. Islam is a foreign faith, imposed by force and insecure in its pretensions. Iran had a native and sophisticated religion, it also had a long history of interaction, violent to be sure, with the christian west. In 621 the Sassanid Empire had conquered Mesopotamia, Syria and Egypt. In the next 6 years the Byzantines literally scrapped the bottom of the barrel to get the resources to counterattack and they won. In 629 the Persians surrendered. For what came next I quote the wiki

Neither empire was given any chance to recover, as within a few years they were struck by the onslaught of the Arabs (newly united by Islam), which, according to Howard-Johnston, "can only be likened to a human tsunami".[96] According to George Liska, the "unnecessarily prolonged Byzantine–Persian conflict opened the way for Islam".[97] The Sassanid Empire rapidly succumbed to these attacks and was completely destroyed. During the Byzantine–Arab Wars, the exhausted Roman Empire's recently regained eastern and southern provinces of Syria, Armenia, Egypt and North Africa were also lost, reducing the empire to a territorial rump consisting of Anatolia and a scatter of islands and footholds in the Balkans and Italy.

As always the tragedy of history is what might have been.

re: #61 yma o hyd

Channel 4 is not a major UK TV Channel - its a comemrcial playground for Guardian readers and such, and gets at most 4 million viewers, tops - thats for something really gripping, like cricket ...

I knew that Channel 4 is a commercial station. I didn't know that it is not considered a "major" station. That still doesn't make it right - even for ratings. Looks like may have screwed themselves. The flak they're getting for this nasty stunt is pretty substantial.

re: #69 doriangrey

Doh...... ;)

Dang it... PIMF....And on the Twelfth day of Christmas the US sent Iran..... 12 B2 stealth fighters bombers in a fly over over Tehran... ;)

OT: Ugo Conti's Spider Boat

God that broad is Ugly, imagine waking up to that mug everyday?

God bless everyone on this Christmas day, and all through the year.

Love from Ojoe

re: #62 doriangrey

And on the Twelfth day of Christmas the US sent Iran..... 12 B2 stealth fighters in a fly over over Tehran... ;)

B-1s —painted white to reflect the light and heat like the first B-1s & fitted to do the mission they were originally designed for...

That little girl sure grew up fast, and where's the cannibalistic rabbit?

Or do I have my barbarians confused?

re: #65 Chicken Kiev

They are both - and both unintentionally.
Stupid because they are incapable of looking further than the tips of their own noses - and evil because they cannot conceive that what they, in their wisdom, see as being reasoanble and fair and tolerant is actually playing into the hands of the enemy and enabling evil to take place.

In order to understand this, they'd have to be able to look further than the tips of their own noses ...

dg we better quit before we annoy our host.

re: #75 Killgore Trout

OT: Ugo Conti's Spider Boat

ROTFLMAO.... Now that is just plain weird... coll, but way weird... ;p

re: #82 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.... Now that is just plain weird... cool, but way weird... ;p

Grrrrrr.....

re: #80 yma o hyd

They are both - and both unintentionally.
Stupid because they are incapable of looking further than the tips of their own noses - and evil because they cannot conceive that what they, in their wisdom, see as being reasoanble and fair and tolerant is actually playing into the hands of the enemy and enabling evil to take place.

In order to understand this, they'd have to be able to look further than the tips of their own noses ...

Awww, but they certainly know how to contemplate their bellybuttons with panache.... ;p

re: #74 doriangrey

Dang it... PIMF....And on the Twelfth day of Christmas the US sent Iran..... 12 B2 stealth fighters bombers in a fly over over Tehran... ;)

Is that your final answer ;>}

/

re: #63 ashan

I blame the US, well the immigration authority, for giving him a visa to enter the US 3 times in order for him to enter the US. (In order to get to the UN, you have to enter the US.) You can be sure that the highest echelons of our government and security organizations were well aware of this.

In the past, other US enemies were granted a visa to enter the US to get to the UN and sleep at some NYC hotel: Kruschev, Castro, Arafat, (T)hugo Chavez. But none have been so amoral and vicious as Ahmadinejad. (Although I would put the pistol-packing Arafat in the same category, but he wasn't developing nukes.) A-jad is also a direct threat to the US, as well as to Israel. His terrorists are behind many of the attacks against US forces in Iraq, and he has been funneling weapons to the Taliban in Afghanistan.

The UN has become a thorn in the US foot for the last(forever). This institution should relocate to Europe. My only aside is that by the UN being in the US is that hopefully the diplomats live in the US and they should know what a free world is like to live in.

re: #85 x-wing

Is that your final answer ;>}

/

Ummm, that would be a definite maybe.... ;O

re: #73 ashan

You're correct - being a small station doesn't make it right, nor does trying to keep up its attitude of 'enfant terrible' make it right.

I'm sure there will be more repercussions to follow after today - right now everything is closed, and everybody is with their families enjoying the Christmas Holiday.

Fur to start flying in earnest after tomorrow.

re: #77 Ojoe

God bless everyone on this Christmas day, and all through the year.

Love from Ojoe

And the same back to you and all of your family!
{Ojoe}

On my long visits to the UK, ten and fifteen years ago, Channel 4, iirc, was the cool TV channel that ran thought-provoking shows on edgy topics, or so it seemed to me at the time. Then again, I was a moonbat at the time. But it's sick really that "progressive" programmers have turned into propagandists for fundamentalist fascism. We're so hip and cool, we want women to be stoned to death and lose their right to drive cars! Yay us!

re: #88 yma o hyd

You're correct - being a small station doesn't make it right, nor does trying to keep up its attitude of 'enfant terrible' make it right.

I'm sure there will be more repercussions to follow after today - right now everything is closed, and everybody is with their families enjoying the Christmas Holiday.

Fur to start flying in earnest after tomorrow.

Any idea what will happen?

re: #87 doriangrey

Ummm, that would be a definite maybe.... ;O

LOL. We tippin' at the sauce a little?

/not that there's anything wrong with that.

re: #84 doriangrey

Gahhhh!

Thats an image I could have done without!

:-)))

re: #91 MandyManners

Any idea what will happen?

The fur will start flying... some mean words will be exchanged and then everything will return to surrender to Islam as usual...

its almost 11 pm. Nite yall.

re: #92 x-wing

LOL. We tippin' at the sauce a little?

/not that there's anything wrong with that.

No... Which makes it all the worse.... ;(

re: #95 shanec99

Where are you?

re: #93 yma o hyd

Gahhhh!

Thats an image I could have done without!

:-)))

Sometime the truth can be very brutal.... ;p

re: #90 Chicken Kiev

On my long visits to the UK, ten and fifteen years ago, Channel 4, iirc, was the cool TV channel that ran thought-provoking shows on edgy topics, or so it seemed to me at the time. Then again, I was a moonbat at the time. But it's sick really that "progressive" programmers have turned into propagandists for fundamentalist fascism. We're so hip and cool, we want women to be stoned to death and lose their right to drive cars! Yay us!

Thats exactly what it still is today - only the 'edgy' has become way OTT to attract young viewers, and its become much more thrashy beause the other TV stations have been trying for 'cool' as well.
Downward spiral, everywhere.

re: #97 Erik The Red

Where are you?

He's somewhere in East Africa.

My bombing days are done, I need to find some work,
Perhaps it would be much safer to a convenience store night clerk!

re: #97 Erik The Red

Where are you?

Floating on a boat US Naval vessel somewhere off the coast of east Africa in an undisclosed location if memory serves me correctly...

re: #100 x-wing

He's somewhere in East Africa.

I am in South. Think maybe I know him/

re: #94 doriangrey

The fur will start flying... some mean words will be exchanged and then everything will return to surrender to Islam as usual...

Not for all.

In other words boys and girls, if Jesus was alive today he would be working on getting nukes to destroy the Zionist entity.

We are Channel 4, Britain, and we approve this message.

re: #86 Erik The Red

The UN has become a thorn in the US foot for the last(forever). This institution should relocate to Europe. My only aside is that by the UN being in the US is that hopefully the diplomats live in the US and they should know what a free world is like to live in.

Well, why not be located in Haiti or one of the countries that need attention in Africa? The dollars spent can certainly be beneficial to such a country.

/Our Ambassador can sit in via teleconferencing or maybe a quick fly-in once in awhile.

re: #91 MandyManners

Any idea what will happen?

Its possible that Gord himself might wade in.
Its fairly probable that some top Tories will have some pretty harsh words in their columns in the Sunday papers.
Its also quite probable that the Director General of channel 4 will be on the carpet in front of a couple of Ministers (Home, Culture, definitely Foreogn Office).
Behind the scenes, the top grandees of the various TV empires are probably already sharpening heir knives gleefully - they don't like him at all.

He'll not get an knighthood any time soon, thats for sure!

re: #106 gettinby

Well, why not be located in Haiti or one of the countries that need attention in Africa? The dollars spent can certainly be beneficial to such a country.

/Our Ambassador can sit in via teleconferencing or maybe a quick fly-in once in awhile.

If you think the UN is corrupt now, just imagine what it would be like in an Afircan nation.

re: #106 gettinby

Well, why not be located in Haiti or one of the countries that need attention in Africa? The dollars spent can certainly be beneficial to such a country.

/Our Ambassador can sit in via teleconferencing or maybe a quick fly-in once in awhile.

Shit Africa has enough problems.

re: #88 yma o hyd

You're correct - being a small station doesn't make it right, nor does trying to keep up its attitude of 'enfant terrible' make it right.

I'm sure there will be more repercussions to follow after today - right now everything is closed, and everybody is with their families enjoying the Christmas Holiday.

Fur to start flying in earnest after tomorrow.

Can't wait. My barf bag is ready.

re: #107 yma o hyd

Its possible that Gord himself might wade in.
Its fairly probable that some top Tories will have some pretty harsh words in their columns in the Sunday papers.
Its also quite probable that the Director General of channel 4 will be on the carpet in front of a couple of Ministers (Home, Culture, definitely Foreogn Office).
Behind the scenes, the top grandees of the various TV empires are probably already sharpening heir knives gleefully - they don't like him at all.

He'll not get an knighthood any time soon, thats for sure!

The bolded sentence makes me uncomfortable coming from an American perspective. But, I hope the rest happens.

Do Britons boycott?

re: #101 MandyManners

My bombing days are done, I need to find some work,
Perhaps it would be much safer to a convenience store night clerk!

SWEET..................................

re: #94 doriangrey

The fur will start flying... some mean words will be exchanged and then everything will return to surrender to Islam as usual...

Aww - don't be so pessimistic!

Today, there are no papers printed in the UK. Tomorrow, the red tops (thats the scandal sheets) will ahve a field day, as will the right-wing papers (Torygraph/Daily Mail). They're always pretty hot for a campaign against leftie/islamist encroachements.

Christ's insight about character and motive seems apropo:

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

In this case Achmadinijihad is a clumsy political predator attempting to groom his prey - the West. However since the BBC is slow and dumb, he seems to have hunted the BBC quite effectively, capturing them heart and soul.

re: #98 doriangrey

Sometime the truth can be very brutal.... ;p

Indeed.

;-)

re: #106 gettinby

Well, why not be located in Haiti or one of the countries that need attention in Africa? The dollars spent can certainly be beneficial to such a country.

/Our Ambassador can sit in via teleconferencing or maybe a quick fly-in once in awhile.

The UN never spends money where they reside, they suck billions to finance terrorists and dictators.

re: #112 doriangrey

SWEET..................................

Classic!

re: #108 MandyManners

If you think the UN is corrupt now, just imagine what it would be like in an Afircan nation.

Yup...and because they are here, it's as though we just ignore the corruption going on on our own soil with, I'm sure, our full knowledge of the corruption.

To my last breath, I will never understand our purpose for still being a part of this.

re: #105 opinionated

In other words boys and girls, if Jesus was alive today he would be working on getting nukes to destroy the Zionist entity.

We are Channel 4, Britain, and we approve this message.

One problem. . .Jesus WAS Jewish. . .Christianity came AFTER him. . .

re: #105 opinionated

In other words boys and girls, if Jesus was alive today he would be working on getting nukes to destroy the Zionist entity.

We are Channel 4, Britain, and we approve this message.

Yep - according to them, if Jesus was alive today, He would, above all, not be a Jooo ...

*spit*

re: #114 DistantThunder

Christ's insight about character and motive seems apropo:

In this case Achmadinijihad is a clumsy political predator attempting to groom his prey - the West. However since the BBC is slow and dumb, he seems to have hunted the BBC quite effectively, capturing them heart and soul.

Sorry- they willingly gave both to him. . .ask Melanie Phillips. . .

re: #120 yma o hyd

Yep - according to them, if Jesus was alive today, He would, above all, not be a Jooo ...

*spit*

Ahh, I misunderstood- funny, I was under the impression that Jesus was a prophet in Islam. . .no?

re: #113 yma o hyd

Aww - don't be so pessimistic!

Today, there are no papers printed in the UK. Tomorrow, the red tops (thats the scandal sheets) will ahve a field day, as will the right-wing papers (Torygraph/Daily Mail). They're always pretty hot for a campaign against leftie/islamist encroachements.

So, the worst that can happen is he'll lose his job?

re: #119 DisturbedEma

One problem. . .Jesus WAS Jewish. . .Christianity came AFTER him. . .

Cease and desist with your Zionist propaganda right this moment young lady..... /S

re: #119 DisturbedEma

One problem. . .Jesus WAS Jewish. . .Christianity came AFTER him. . .

I get it. . .even if Jesus was in Israel right now. . .iran would STILL want Israel off the map. . .

re: #112 doriangrey

I got it here.

re: #124 doriangrey

Cease and desist with your Zionist propaganda right this moment young lady..... /S

:). . .my bad. . .I am working on it. . .

re: #118 gettinby

Yup...and because they are here, it's as though we just ignore the corruption going on on our own soil with, I'm sure, our full knowledge of the corruption.

To my last breath, I will never understand our purpose for still being a part of this.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer?

re: #126 MandyManners

I got it here.

Silence...... I Keeeel You...... ;)

re: #124 doriangrey

Cease and desist with your Zionist propaganda right this moment young lady..... /S

An upding on #119 will bring about a bonus zionist check!

If this was posted earlier, my apologies.

Christmas Miracle

What is needed is to redirect the outrage and grievance machine of the British left from condemnations of Israel for keeping some Palestinian's favorite sheep "Buttercup" away from it's accustomed accustomed grazing with the hateful apartheid barrier towards more useful objects of scorn such as lynching homosexuals and secret police who use real torture.

re: #123 gettinby

So, the worst that can happen is he'll lose his job?

What do you want? Public flogging?

re: #111 MandyManners

The bolded sentence makes me uncomfortable coming from an American perspective. But, I hope the rest happens.

Do Britons boycott?

Oh yes!
They've been boycotting Channel 4 with their remotes for quite some time (except when they show cricket, because they're the only TV station showing it at the moment ...!)

The carpeting isn't to dictate what the director general of channel 4 can or cannot say, i.e. its not about interfering with freedom of speech. Its about making clear that the security of the nation has to be taken into account even when trying to be oh-so 'alternative'.

re: #127 DisturbedEma

:). . .my bad. . .I am working on it. . .

I sure hope my VZCCC (Vast Zionist Conspiracy Christmas Check) doesn't get lost this year.... ;p

re: #129 doriangrey

Silence...... I Keeeel You...... ;)

Jingle bombs! Jingle bombs!
I believe that I got screwed.
Don't laugh at me because I'm dead or I KEEL YOU!

re: #114 DistantThunder

Christ's insight about character and motive seems apropo:

In this case Achmadinijihad is a clumsy political predator attempting to groom his prey - the West. However since the BBC is slow and dumb, he seems to have hunted the BBC quite effectively, capturing them heart and soul.

Erm - its not the Beeb who done and broadcast that speech. Channel 4 has nothing to do with the Beeb, its a commercial TV station, although a 'highbrow' one, like the Guardian ...

re: #22 Killgore Trout

And here is the shit they showed on Channel 4....looks like he has an eye problem that a shrink might want to look into....blinking away. I got no further than about 90 seconds...weak stomach, acute nausea, etc., but most of all, total disgust.

How could the Channel 4 that showed this, and a follow-up, showing the menace of the cult of islam a year or so ago now do this? They were acclaimed for 'Undercover Mosque' and the follow-up.

/Schizophrenia?

re: #134 yma o hyd

Oh yes!
They've been boycotting Channel 4 with their remotes for quite some time (except when they show cricket, because they're the only TV station showing it at the moment ...!)

The carpeting isn't to dictate what the director general of channel 4 can or cannot say, i.e. its not about interfering with freedom of speech. Its about making clear that the security of the nation has to be taken into account even when trying to be oh-so 'alternative'.

That still bothers me because it could lead to prior restrtaint. However, Ch. 4 needs to figure out which side it's bread is buttered and one way to do that is for the public to go after the companies that advertise on it. Hit them in the pocket.

re: #128 MandyManners

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer?

To a point, maybe?

/Not fond of inviting someone who wants to kill me into my family room for cocktails, hors d'oeuvre's and witty conversation.

Gotta' go check the ham. bbiab

The Queen:
On this day celebrating the birth of Jesus, I would like to say that all acts of violence be halted. The world truly is a beautiful place and there is no room for hatred. All people of any religion, or no religion at all, should be free do practice their beliefs and allow others the same courtesy.
Also, I call for a halt to activities in all nations and territories where people are either held hostage to a government's oppressive policies or else subjected to indisciminate violence by roving bands of rouge terrorists, pirates or other opportunists.
A world void of destructive wars and prejudicies would be a harmonious world allowing for a more systematic process of economic and social progress benefitting all of mankind.
Thank you, Merry Christmas and may God Bless you all.

Channel 4:
And now for an alternative point of view....

re: #122 DisturbedEma

Ahh, I misunderstood- funny, I was under the impression that Jesus was a prophet in Islam. . .no?

Yep - so how could He have been a real Jooo?
And, according to B0's vicar, that Jeremy W., Jesus was a Palestinian, so there you have it!

re: #141 MandyManners

Gotta' go check the ham. bbiab

New boyfriend?

Not hitler, but SHITler.

re: #137 yma o hyd

its a commercial TV station, although a 'highbrow' one, like the Guardian ...

That is a matter of definition. My own standards for considering anything "highbrow" and conferring respect on it must be different than those across the pond.

re: #129 doriangrey

Silence...... I Keeeel You...... ;)

Love that GUY. . .ummm puppet. . .

re: #144 David IV of Georgia

New boyfriend?

Hmmm, I sense a lovely Christmas "Whack" coming on.... ;p

re: #133 MandyManners

What do you want? Public flogging?

Goodness' sakes, no!

It was just a question. I thought that perhaps there might be an illegality about what he did, but after thinking about, probably not. So, left me with my question.

re: #145 paybacktime

Scheiße.

re: #123 gettinby

So, the worst that can happen is he'll lose his job?

Oh no - he'll be stuck there, earning nice money, but he'll go nowhere else, earning even more money.

What a babbling fool. Is there no shame among Muslims?

re: #133 MandyManners

What do you want? Public flogging?

That might be cool.

/

re: #143 yma o hyd

Yep - so how could He have been a real Jooo?
And, according to B0's vicar, that Jeremy W., Jesus was a Palestinian, so there you have it!

Well, considering that the Palestinians that fought for GB in WWII, like Moshe Dayan. . .who lost his eye fighting for GB, were in fact Jews. . .hmmm

The Koskidz haven't written about this yet but the HuffPo crowd is delighted....
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad To Deliver UK Christmas Broadcast
Check out the 1st comment.....

A really good call to have the alternative Christmas message from the President of Iran. It is only the whining Israelis who are so up in arms, and they should look to themselves for the baby killers that they are.

And this one....

Ahmadinejad should be nominated for Nobel Peace Prize.
BTW -- he actually never said that he will destroy Israel.
His (and Khomeini's) exact words were "translated" by eager Israel and its lobby in the US.
These malicious "translations" became "the Truth" by endlessly repeating them.

Progressive!

re: #155 Killgore Trout

The Koskidz haven't written about this yet but the HuffPo crowd is delighted....
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad To Deliver UK Christmas Broadcast
Check out the 1st comment.....

Progressive!

Wow, if you had not told me I would have thought it was Kos. . .

re: #132 lifeofthemind

What is needed is to redirect the outrage and grievance machine of the British left from condemnations of Israel for keeping some Palestinian's favorite sheep "Buttercup" away from it's accustomed accustomed grazing with the hateful apartheid barrier towards more useful objects of scorn such as lynching homosexuals and secret police who use real torture.

That infamous Peter Thatchell, defender of gay rights everywhere, is on the case of Channel 4, Mr A and the Iran ... I'm sure we'll hear more from him about this in the enxt days.

re: #152 pat

What a babbling fool. Is there no shame among Muslims?

If worshiping a child molester liar murder and thief doesnt cause them shame then nothing will.

re: #138 NY Nana

And here is the shit they showed on Channel 4....looks like he has an eye problem that a shrink might want to look into....blinking away. I got no further than about 90 seconds...weak stomach, acute nausea, etc., but most of all, total disgust.

How could the Channel 4 that showed this, and a follow-up, showing the menace of the cult of islam a year or so ago now do this? They were acclaimed for 'Undercover Mosque' and the follow-up.

/Schizophrenia?

Chasing viewer quotes, is all.
Sigh.
I man - what can you do to beat the nation watching The Queen?

/

re: #153 x-wing

That might be cool.

/

Perhaps another station might show the nature of executions during the reign of this Islamic nutcase.

re: #154 DisturbedEma

Well, considering that the Palestinians that fought for GB in WWII, like Moshe Dayan. . .who lost his eye fighting for GB, were in fact Jews. . .hmmm

While British troops were fighting at el Alamein the Arabs were hanging German flags from the street lamps in Cairo and Afafat's Uncle the Mufti was in Berlin with Hitler.

re: #152 pat

What a babbling fool. Is there no shame among Muslims?

I think you may have answered your own question.

re: #161 lifeofthemind

While British troops were fighting at el Alamein the Arabs were hanging German flags from the street lamps in Cairo and Afafat's Uncle the Mufti was in Berlin with Hitler.

Yep- history bites the ass of those who do not learn from it. . .or something like that. . .

Gotta go, Lizards - time for the obligatory telephone chats with all the family!

Have a lovely Christmas Day, all of you!

re: #164 yma o hyd

Gotta go, Lizards - time for the obligatory telephone chats with all the family!

Have a lovely Christmas Day, all of you!

Have a wonderful time:)

re: #164 yma o hyd

Gotta go, Lizards - time for the obligatory telephone chats with all the family!

Have a lovely Christmas Day, all of you!

Merry Christmas to you and your family as well yma o hyd... ;)

I should probably get packing too- have to be out on the first. . .moving to a cheaper place. . .sigh

England, the country where any boy can grow up to be Queen.

re: #160 pat

Perhaps another station might show the nature of executions during the reign of this Islamic nutcase.

Great idea. Wonder if any of them would have the balls to do it.

re: #159 yma o hyd

Chasing viewer quotes, is all.
Sigh.
I man - what can you do to beat the nation watching The Queen?

/

/Seeing if she was wearing a dress that she bought in the going out of business sale at Wooly's?

re: #168 lifeofthemind

England, the country where any boy can grow up to be Queen.

Or San Fransicko.... ;p

re: #141 MandyManners

Gotta' go check the ham. bbiab

Very appropriate Christmas song.

re: #65 Chicken Kiev

But the question remains, as always with moonbats: Are they stupid ... or evil? Stupid ... or evil? Because how can those educated twits at Channel 4 NOT know Dinnerjacket's intent, how can they NOT know what this is really about? They MUST know! And is it a game to them, is it fun to them to play this game because ... why? Because its effects have not yet become real? Because only some of their tube trains were blown up, and a bus, but London or Leeds haven't yet been poison-gassed? What will it take? To give this monster airtime on Christmas Day of all days raises the evil-or-stupid question to the max. I always ask it when genocidal Black Panthers and Bill Ayers-terrorist-types are given the honor (and paid) to be commencement speakers at college graduations. Who is handing out these honors.? Are they stupid ... or evil?

I vote evil
contrary to popular belief you can fix stupid; just depends on how many 2x4's your willing to go through.

re: #164 yma o hyd

Gotta go, Lizards - time for the obligatory telephone chats with all the family!

Have a lovely Christmas Day, all of you!

And to you!

Thanks for your insight.

re: #173 Mr Spiffy

I vote evil
contrary to popular belief you can fix stupid; just depends on how many 2x4's your willing to go through.

Yup, gonna have to agree with that....

re: #140 gettinby

To a point, maybe?

/Not fond of inviting someone who wants to kill me into my family room for cocktails, hors d'oeuvre's and witty conversation.

The edginess overwhelms the subtlety of clever bon mots.

re: #139 MandyManners

That still bothers me because it could lead to prior restrtaint. However, Ch. 4 needs to figure out which side it's bread is buttered and one way to do that is for the public to go after the companies that advertise on it. Hit them in the pocket.

Oops. I was thinking about BBC and prior restraint. Sorry.

re: #176 debutaunt

The edginess overwhelms the subtlety of clever bon mots.

LOL

From one too many cocktails, or one too many wittynesses?

re: #176 debutaunt

The edginess overwhelms the subtlety of clever bon mots.

That kind of edginess is a race headlong into either submission or extinction. Thank you very much but I think I shall pass on edginess...

re: #177 MandyManners

Oops. I was thinking about BBC and prior restraint. Sorry.

BBC and prior restraint, isn't that an oxymoron?

re: #180 doriangrey

BBC and prior restraint, isn't that an oxymoron?

Or would the BBC just be old fashioned morons?

re: #5 Lee Coller

I wonder if Ahmadinehad realizes when he talks about bullies and warmongers he's describing himself.

He may not. The practise of describing others in terms applicable to yourself is called projection.

re: #173 Mr Spiffy

I vote evil
contrary to popular belief you can fix stupid; just depends on how many 2x4's your willing to go through.

I vote stupid. Why? Neville Chamberlain.

re: #183 NelsFree

I vote stupid. Why? Neville Chamberlain.

Sorry, given the depth of destruction pain and misery Neville Chamberlain was responsible I cannot in all good conscience consider him merely stupid, but in fact must consider him genuinely evil.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

"In Iran, converts to Christianity face the death penalty. It is perverse that this despot is allowed to speculate on the views of Jesus, while his government leads Christ's followers to the gallows."

re: #184 doriangrey

Sorry, given the depth of destruction pain and misery Neville Chamberlain was responsible I cannot in all good conscience consider him merely stupid, but in fact must consider him genuinely evil.

I'm not sure about that. The evil came about not of Chamberlain's deed or desire. His evil was that of blindness, not malice.

down with the Mullahs of Iran. Down with the Islamic Republic. I hate them so much

re: #32 shanec99 So do we, and he's leaving office.

re: #186 Dark_Falcon

I'm not sure about that. The evil came about not of Chamberlain's deed or desire. His evil was that of blindness, not malice.

...so his blindness indicates stupidity. Your turn.

Here is Sky News' coverage of what Channel 4 did. It is not sarky, but actually good, IMHO.

There is a series of photos on the site, and this is what really struck me:

A viewer watches a transmission of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad delivering, on Britain's Channel 4, an alternative ”Christmas message” to British audiences, on December 25, 2008. The speech, in Farsi with English subtitles, is the channels 16th alternative message following previous speeches from others including French actress Brigitte Bardot, British TV chef Jamie Oliver and Major Andrew Stockton, a British soldier who lost an arm fighting in Afghanistan.

/Some comparison, eh?

There is also a complete translation of Ahmadinejad's spewings.

/The original Farsi sounds so much better than the translation...

I hope there were a lot of radioactive pieces of coal in his stocking....biiiiiig pieces.

re: #122 DisturbedEma

Ahh, I misunderstood- funny, I was under the impression that Jesus was a prophet in Islam. . .no?

Big difference is: the Muslims deny Christ's divinity.

re: #186 Dark_Falcon

I'm not sure about that. The evil came about not of Chamberlain's deed or desire. His evil was that of blindness, not malice.

No, not blindness, a stubborn refusal to abandon his own wretched ideological agenda, and I'm sure the tens of millions who died because of his actions don't give a damn how his actions are justified or excused.

re: #18 Bubblehead II

I really cant care about the fate of Britain any more. They have had it and now they lost their glory. It is now Englandistan

Europeans have been supporting this nasty regime in Iran for the past 29 yrs. I really do not care what happens to Europe. I am hoping that Islamists take over and teach these morons a lesson about how life is really like in Iran. Let them taste what we have tasted for 29 yrs. I am so angry at the British now

re: #190 NY Nana

Here is Sky News' coverage of what Channel 4 did. It is not sarky, but actually good, IMHO.

There is a series of photos on the site, and this is what really struck me:

/Some comparison, eh?

There is also a complete translation of Ahmadinejad's spewings.

/The original Farsi sounds so much better than the translation...

I hope there were a lot of radioactive pieces of coal in his stocking....biiiiiig pieces.

Robot Santa from Futurama: "Mahmoud, you've been so naughty, I'm going to shove coal so far up your stocking you'll be crapping out diamonds!"

re: #194 winston06

Europeans have been supporting this nasty regime in Iran for the past 29 yrs. I really do not care what happens to Europe. I am hoping that Islamists take over and teach these morons a lesson about how life is really like in Iran. Let them taste what we have tasted for 29 yrs. I am so angry at the British now

Smack! Never wish for that! You should Never, Ever, want anyone to live under tyranny. If Christmas really means something to you, you need to work for freedom in the world. Britain is far gone, but so is Chicago and I will not forsake the city of birth. Neither shall I forsake the UK.

Why would I listen to anything wearing a hijab least of all at Christmas?

re: #195 Dark_Falcon

Robot Santa from Futurama: "Mahmoud, you've been so naughty, I'm going to shove coal so far up your stocking you'll be crapping out diamonds!"

ROTFL! But Ahmadinejad's need to stay in his stocking to do the job, and get only him...and at any rate, all he would crap out is crap.

Let's put is this way...if there was a bulletin that there had been a Palace coup, by the democratic Iranians, and he was to be tried by his fellow Iranians, and get what Sadamn got? If it would happen during the Christmas-Hanukka season? Partay!

If it happened after? Partay! It would be a win-win situation. It would be great if Reza Pahlevi, the late Shah's son, would be able to go home, and be a part of it.

re: #197 Gadfly

Why would I listen to anything wearing a hijab least of all at Christmas?

Don't say that. I have met Muslim women who wore the hijab who were quite sensible and trustworthy. The hijab does not bother me, the veil and burka do.

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

Don't say that. I have met Muslim women who wore the hijab who were quite sensible and trustworthy. The hijab does not bother me, the veil and burka do.

Sorry dude, but if a woman is wearing a hijab, she is then by definition neither sensible or trustworthy, only Muslim.

At a risk of sounding bad, why the hell is the West paying any attention to anything the Iranians have to say? I have Iranian students in my classes and most of them are the most modern thinking people I know. Why? Because they have grown up in that sort of "civilization" (if you can call it that). As long as there are extermist countries like this we have "this too can happen to you " examples. We also have examples of what sorts of "legacies" jackasses in office like the dunderhead Jimmy"peanutfarmer" Carter can leave behind.
In a really open discussion over a few beers with two of my Iranian students (mid 20s multilingual, very open minded to say the least) it wasbrought to my attention that "only true government people believe that shit and even they still drink beer and watch porn at home". and that nobody their generation takes things so seriously. As strange as it is one of the Armenian girls in my class is dating an Iranian guy. I love the discussions I've had with the Iranians about the rumors that Khatemei secretly enjoys watching western tv etc etc.
This should be intresting (and scary) to see how the O-face deals with dinnerjacket. I am waiting to see Putin play with Obama like a cat playing with a mouse.

re: #200 doriangrey

Sorry dude, but if a woman is wearing a hijab, she is then by definition neither sensible or trustworthy, only Muslim.

Scarves over the hair were quite the rage with women when my mother was young. I trust her.

re: #200 doriangrey

Sorry dude, but if a woman is wearing a hijab, she is then by definition neither sensible or trustworthy, only Muslim.

I respect your opinion, but that has not been my finding so far. I see why you say that, but I do not agree.

re: #202 Shay4l

Scarves over the hair were quite the rage with women when my mother was young. I trust her.

Dorian was not referring to the scarf itself, but the reasons it is worn and what it symbolizes.

Merry Christmas to LGF and Lizardoids.

And to Ahmadinejad (and the Muslim female anchor without make-up), I say this: Off is the general direction of where I tell you to go f**k.

re: #201 baconeatingkaffir

Yo BACON! Merry Christmas from your urban, Jewish lizard friend!

Last year they did something equally provocative IIRC.

re: #206 WriterMom

Yo BACON! Merry Christmas from your urban, Jewish lizard friend!

Merry Christmas Mom.... ;)

re: #193 winston06

The UK is screwed. Too late to turn back the clock.

re: #208 doriangrey

You sooooo know I am a Chanukah chick-but that's cool...

re: #201 baconeatingkaffir

This should be intresting (and scary) to see how the O-face deals with dinnerjacket. I am waiting to see Putin play with Obama like a cat playing with a mouse.

I can't help but think of Luther Campbell's words: "You say you wanna play/Cat and Mouse?/When I catch you I'm gonna stick my/D**k in yo' mouth!"

re: #19 solomonpanting

As opposed to what, the same islamic year, 666?

I wonder what reference date she uses?

Muslims use a Lunar calendar. The start of Ramadan, for example, is based on sighting the crescent moon in the night sky.

I'm surprised that Ahmadinejad won't be preempted for a special on the late Harold Pinter; a favorite self hater of the British left. Oh that's right, monkey boys wants to commit genocide.

re: #202 Shay4l

Scarves over the hair were quite the rage with women when my mother was young. I trust her.

How the hell can you even try to compare a fashion trend to a cult that treats women like dirt, and subjugates them, along with any daughters? A cult where mercy killings are also very 'fashionable'?

re: #210 WriterMom

You sooooo know I am a Chanukah chick-but that's cool...

Doh.... Yes, my bad... Happy Chanukah.... ;) Hey... It's the thought that count's right? ')

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

I'm just saying that covering the hair is a common cultural or simply fashionable practice. I hesitate to compare it to the dehumanization of removing/covering a person's face or entire body from human interaction.

re: #216 Shay4l

I'm just saying that covering the hair is a common cultural or simply fashionable practice. I hesitate to compare it to the dehumanization of removing/covering a person's face or entire body from human interaction.

If a woman is beaten for allowing a snippet of hair to fall out of her hijab, that is dehumanization. If you have not read the Qu'ran, please do. Don't hesitate.

re: #201 baconeatingkaffir

This should be intresting (and scary) to see how the O-face deals with dinnerjacket. I am waiting to see Putin play with Obama like a cat playing with a mouse.

When they do, they will probably wake up to find a horse head in their beds. Above and beyond anything else Obama is or may be, he is a Chicago Gangster. Yes, we really did elect Don Corleone and Dinnerjacket and Putin are going to learn that the hard way.

re: #216 Shay4l

I'm just saying that covering the hair is a common cultural or simply fashionable practice. I hesitate to compare it to the dehumanization of removing/covering a person's face or entire body from human interaction.

I'm not being critical of you, merely pointing out what Dorian was trying to say. As it stands, I think you and I are in agreement.

I'll be back tonight.

re: #218 doriangrey

BHO wants to change domestic policy. He does not seem interested in Foreign affairs. IMHO. Perhaps he will let Hillary run that. Defense is okay until Iraq and Afghanistan wind down. Meanwhile, Socialism rears its ugly head in America.

re: #214 NY Nana

How the hell can you even try to compare a fashion trend to a cult that treats women like dirt, and subjugates them, along with any daughters? A cult where mercy killings are also very 'fashionable'?

OK I am leaving LGF for today.

Responding to this statement:
"Sorry dude, but if a woman is wearing a hijab, she is then by definition neither sensible or trustworthy, only Muslim."

with an inoccuous statement trying to make a point that covering the hair with a scarf doesn't make all those women evil cult members did not deserve this kind of venom.

Merry Christmas Writermom. Believe it or not our school is closed for Christmas. Turkey still has kept a bit of its multiculturalness. I really have high hopes for this new generation.
About headscarves.. those mean nothing here. I know some women who wear them but are absolute wenches like my neighbor who also drink alcohol and probably engages in the naughty sin of premarital sex. Still she wears a headscarf so I guess allah can't see who it is who is doing it.
Here one of the political/religious parties pays women to wear the scarf and the penguin suit. I have yet to figure out if they get paid more for the scarf or for the penguinsuit. hehehe. Another interesting tidbit... one of my students actually removes her scarf when she goes out etc etc. but when she has to go home puts the damn thing on. She doesnt care much for it either.

You know, considering today is Christmas, there have been several biting posts here. I, too, am guilty of prompt judgement. Perhaps we should remind ourselves of the Reason for the Season. Peace on Earth, goodwill toward Men (and Women). Well, the guests are arriving for dinner, gotta go. Merry Christmas and, to paraphrase Joe Biden, "God Love Ya, LGF!"

If Jesus were alive, and in Iran or some other Muslim country, he'd be subject to abuse and oppression.

If he were alive and somewhere else, he'd be celebrating Hannukah.

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Allow? They'd beg "Great" anti-Western leaders like Stalin or Hitler for the oppertunity to spew their propaganda across the airwaves. Tey did this because they want to get Dinnerjacket's views out to the populace.

Agenda for December Channel 4 Editorial Meeting
1. Apologies and absences
2. Mince pies?
3. Appear radical and suck up to Islamofascists vs. Fuck the Jews and Gays
4. Should we get a pedophile to do next years Xmas message?
5. Any other business

re: #223 NelsFree

You know, considering today is Christmas, there have been several biting posts here. I, too, am guilty of prompt judgement. Perhaps we should remind ourselves of the Reason for the Season. Peace on Earth, goodwill toward Men (and Women). Well, the guests are arriving for dinner, gotta go. Merry Christmas and, to paraphrase Joe Biden, "God Love Ya, LGF!"

Crankiness due to not getting a shiny, shiny unicorn or some such.

re#yma o hyd
Ch4 don't show cricket any more that's the province of "sky" now.(excellent coverage).the only sad thing is that impecunious old cricket fans either have to go to the pub or listen on radio4(long wave)
Anyway,channel 4 are loosing a lot of ad revenue because by and large their
programs are piss poor;and they are attempting to win back viewers with controversial programs(I thought undercover mosque was terrific).
But giving air time to a mendacious POS like "dinnerjacket" was I suppose what they would call balanced.
However looking on the bright side there's a strong rumour that the most controversial humourist in the UK is putting the finishing touches to a spoof documentary on Islam(he considers it a subject ripe for exploitatation); and if this is screened(on ch4) ,and is in the same vein as his infamous documentary on paedophilia(spoof);then I predict much discussion here on LGF when the shit hits the fan.
Christmas greetings and good will to all LGF fans.
Cheers.

C4 is such a strange beast. I puts out cr^p like this yet also puts out Undercover Mosque and Jail to Jihad.

A previous commenter mentioned that this can be interpreted as the Muslim custom of invitation of conversion before attack. I just hope it is and the mussies lift the heads out of their mire. Despite what the loony lefty media would have you believe, to use the immortal words of Maggie, We Brits ain't for turning.

why is everyone so angry? let him talk, int he clip shown he has already condemned himself and his government for their support of terrorist organisations, there is nothing to fear from his moronic words, i congratulate C4.

I've not read this whole thread, so if this has been mentioned before, sorry 'bout the repeat: The statement "If Jesus were alive, today" comes from a seriously theologically challenged viewpoint. The fact of Yeshua's resurrection is the crux of Christianity.
Without a risen, eternally alive Savior - Christianity is just another in a long series of belief systems.
So here ya go Dinnerjacket: Jesus is, was and will always be alive. Ya stumpy tool, ya!

Iran State TV. Who's the chick in the bag?

Answers:

a) That's not a chick!
b) That's not a bag!
c) I dunno. And it doesn't matter, infidel swine!
c) I forget.

Unveil the beauty that "Allah" created, and control yourselves, you swinish batards. Allah gave you self-control, yes? Or are you no better than animals?

re: #65 Chicken Kiev

But the question remains, as always with moonbats: Are they stupid ... or evil?

From my conversations with moonbats on leftist websites, well the ones that don't descend to the level of hysterical personal attacks, I have always detected a sheer bloody stubbornness of not wanting to accept the truth. Their mindset is so rigid that they can't accept alternative viewpoints.

This makes them stupid. I don't know about evil but certainly dangerous.

re: #196 Dark_Falcon

but i m very angry

re: #209 WriterMom

agreed

re: #201 baconeatingkaffir

good observation

Like watching Hitler.

I wonder what Channel 4 will say after he unleashes a nuclear holocaust, (or if they will say anything at all).

re: #232 moomintroll

why is everyone so angry? let him talk, int he clip shown he has already condemned himself and his government for their support of terrorist organisations, there is nothing to fear from his moronic words, i congratulate C4.

The problem for me is the dishonesty. Ch4, i.e. the media, should never be a tool for a corrupt government.

There are Christians and Jews still living in Iran, although many left after Ahmadinejad came to power. The Wiki, if it's accurate indicates the Christian population has gone down to about .4% from 1.5% in 1975. Persian Jews, something I know a bit more about, are one of the oldest Jewish populations in the Diaspora dating back to the first Temple days (800 BCE). In 1948, there were 100,000 Jews in Iran. Today it's about 25-30K (reports vary).

At any rate, Jews and Christians are not granted the same rights as Muslims in Iran and though allowed to practice their religions, are often persecuted for them. THIS is what Ch 4 should have been reporting. You look at this tape and you come away with a sympathic Ahmadinejad which is certainly not true. The fact is these two communities are quite alienated from their brethren in the rest of the world.

If you watch the whole tape, the Christian men being interviewed look entirely uncomforatble. Terrified even, to the point of what they're saying is rehearsed. And I wouldn't doubt it.

I would think that the first occupation he would decry was that closest to his heart. The occupation of Israel by anyone other than the Jewish people.

re: #232 moomintroll

Aside from giving a legitimising platform to an evil monster?

I'm angry because C4 are only doing this to be controversial and look radical.

It's left wing egotism, built upon the blood of young women stoned to death, gay people hung by their next, women who are beaten up and humiliated by morality police, the genocide of marsh Arabs and rampant antisemitism.

If Combat 18 & Aryan Nations weren't so white, they'd give them a platform too - just for the controversy.

It's insult. The basic fact is, they'd rather look cool to lefties than avoid offending gays and Jews (and anyone else who believes in womens rights and basic democracy).

WHAT I WANT FOR XMAS NEXT YEAR!

It's only an editorial decision and a bit of coding away.

Just a simple thought folks: If the dinner-jacket has to apply for a visa to enter our country, we are always asking other countries to join us in seeking sanctions against this elf correct? Why not just deny the application and show the world that we will not give him the platform he seeks to spread his b.s. and tell the UN that they are in our country and the door is open for them to pack up and leave anytime they want.Obama said that he could look any dictator in the eye. Will he have on knee pads when he looks him in the eye, or will the elf be looking at the back of the Messiahs head?
Does Soros have enough money to support the UN if they do leave? Maybe they could have telethons over in Britain on channel 4.

re: #111 MandyManners

Do Britons Boycott ?

Yes, We do. Well, I do , at least.
I shall make it a point not to purchase any goods or services from any advertisers featured on C4 unless and until there is a full and unreserved apology for this crass act of dhimmitude. I already boycott Sainsbury's
(A major supermarket chain which advertises on C4) because of two words ... Jamie Oliver. (All British Lizards know who this is ...)

I'm glad I waited until the day after Christmas to view this wretched crap.
It's like Christmas 1938 and Hitler is on the BBC advising the British public that Jesus was the first National Socialist.

The whole thing is snide, stupid and self-loathing.

If Jesus were alive today?

He'd still be the ZIONIST JEW he always was...

I'd love to remind the world that Jesus was a JEW, living in OCCUPIED ISRAEL

Ten's of thousands of JEWS were murdered on crucifixes by the OCCUPYING Romans JUST like Jesus for BEING JEWS in their historic HOMELAND

Maybe during this time of year the world needs to remember Jesus was born, raised and died a Jew...

In the Christian mind he ONLY became CHRIST AFTER the resurrection.

And even then, he would have supported Israel to BE over a palestinian death cult anyday

re: #7 Boxy_brown

Because nothing says "lets celebrate the birth of Jesus" then a rant from an evil little short pricked, genocidal murdering bastard. F- "Channel 4".

LMAO! Best description of the "little one" ever!

re: #246 pass the moonbaticide

I already boycott Sainsbury's (a major supermarket chain which advertises on C4) because of two words ... Jamie Oliver. (All British Lizards know who this is ...)

Happy Boxing Day to all the British Lizards, but could you give the rest of us a hint on why Jamie Oliver drives you to boycott? (I suspect that a lot of Americans will recognize Oliver's name, but only as a "celebrity chef.")

re: #250 Throbert McGee
Jamie Oliver is one of the most fanatical health Nazi types posing as a celebrity chef that Great Britain has. The UK Government enroled him as an 'advisor' on Schools nutrition, with the result that items like chips
(French Fries to our American cousins) are now off the menu, and 'sugary' soft drinks were all removed from vending machines (even diet varieties)
in favour of flavoured waters. Kids' lunch boxes are even searched for contraband like candy bars on entry to schools. Most parents hate him. There are many cases reported of parents passing 'forbidden' foodstuffs through school railings. He also managed to offend an entire Midlands town
- I think it was Pontefract but it was a few months ago so my memory may be suspect - by suggesting that theirs was the nation's unhealthiest diet.

This self-righteous prat is the reason I will not shop in any supermarket he endorses.

Modern Islam would issue a Fatwa on Jesus Christ today, and denounce Him as a heretic. Islam would not give a whits worth of consideration as to Christ's opinion of the US, and we should give the same amount of credence to what I'm-a-dinner-jacket says about Christ's opinion of how we, the most charitable nation on earth, go about our Christianity.

Pretty interesting that Ahmadinejad basically said if Christ were to visit us today, he would denounce the Iranian leader (at least that is what I inferred, considering his role as a warmonger with Hezbollah and Hamas). I wonder if that will shame him toward working for peace. He could begin by recognizing the right of Israel to exist and diverting his funding for violence toward peace. Merry Christmas, Mahmoud.