Of course the unindicted co-conspirators would do this, there's a reason for that title..

Cair goes Shia!

As you said, just two words: Unindicted Co-conspirators.

/they gotta stick up for their peeps.

Well, they only today issued the press releases. Wait until tomorrow until they get worked into the overall analysis and reaction to Israel's national defense against the Islamic terrorist group Hamas that has been repeatedly calling for Israel's destruction since its creation.

CAIR never fails to find common cause with the Islamists and terrorists. It's in their blood.

So Hamas Sticks up for Hamas

Am I surprised?

Nope.

They'd see their donations from sympathetic idjits dwindle to zero otherwise.

The Buffalo Bills are doing their best impression of Ohio State today. The first quarter is almost over and they have not thrown the ball yet?

Seriously, CAIR seems to lean towards Iran more than the Sauds, or is that just me misinterpreting?

They seriously need to be ejected from the bus, which should immediately run over them.

From the link:

CAIR noted that the European Union (EU), Russia, the UN Secretary-General, the Arab League, the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), and other international bodies are all urging Israel to end it attacks

Them's some big allies there.

/

Why doesn't America shun this organization. It's akin to receiving a press release from O.J. Simpson. Except O.J. has less blood on his hands.

Wow- that whole release is pretty nauseating.

We therefore call on President-elect Obama to demonstrate his commitment to change our nation's current one-sided Mideast policy by speaking out now in favor of peace and justice for all parties to this decades-long conflict.

If only 0bama would wave his magic wand, this would all be solved.

Wow - maybe Bush will leave office with the Israeli - Palestinian chessboard pieces in very different positions.

Hamas say buh-bye.

CAIR is still around? /

re: #7 Nevergiveup

The Buffalo Bills are doing their best impression of Ohio State today. The first quarter is almost over and they have not thrown the ball yet?

Gale force winds up and down the east coast. They don't have much choice.

Their definition

A prominent national Islamic civil rights and advocacy group

my definition
Anti American terrorists

"Despite the public 'green light' given to the Israeli military by the Bush administration, American Muslims join our fellow citizens who respect international law and the sanctity of human life in repudiating this massacre carried out using U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons.

This respect obviously does not apply to suicide bombers and the launching of cross-border rockets.

re: #1 Thanos

What I want to know is, when are they going to be made into indicted co-conspirators?

...called the death toll a “massacre carried out using U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons.

Do they call Palestinian self-detonations that kill women and children "massacres carried out using Iranian taxpayer-funded weapons"?

Another PRNewswire article.

WASHINGTON, Dec. 28 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL), Ranking Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, today expressed support for Israel's response in the Gaza Strip to Hamas' continued assault against Israeli civilians. Statement by Ros-Lehtinen:

"The most recent onslaught of rockets against Israel from Hamas represents a serious escalation in their war against Israel. The latest barrage of attacks by these Iranian-sponsored Islamist militants continue a pattern of indiscriminate targeting of innocent men, women and children in Israel that could not go unanswered. Israel had no choice but to defend itself.

"The response of our democratic ally, Israel, has been carefully calibrated to halt the rocket fire, aimed at surgically eliminating Hamas militants and the teams that are operating the rockets, while at the same time making every effort to limit civilian casualties in the face of Hamas' callous use of innocent Palestinians as human shields.

"We stand with the Jewish State of Israel in its ongoing efforts to protect its citizens from those who seek its destruction."

[Link: foreignaffairs.republicans.house.gov...]

SOURCE House Foreign Affairs Committee (Republican Office)

Once again, this reported was bought and paid for by the terrorist media corporation known as PR Newswire Association.

I'm still waiting for them to be indicted conspirators.

re: #15 Wyatt Earp

Gale force winds up and down the east coast. They don't have much choice.

Pats are throwing?

I like the "It's Booosh!" part...

Let them speak up all they want...put them on every TV in America...give them space in every newspaper to print up their "Support". The more people see what they really are, the less influence they will have. Most Americans see Hamas as the problem, not Israel...if CAIR comes along and starts telling everyone their BS line, the more people will see they are full of it.

re: #23 Nevergiveup

Pats are throwing?

Oh. Never mind, then. :)

Ooh. Look! Hoopie-the-shit-slinging monkey's e-addy is at the bottom of the article.

Let's see - what else can CAIR stand for?

Corrupt Arrogant Infantile Remonstrators

(Remonstrate [-strating, -strated] Formal to argue in protest or objection: the player remonstrated loudly with the official [Latin re- again + monstrare to show]
remonstration n)

re: #27 MandyManners

Ooh. Look! Hoopie-the-shit-slinging monkey's e-addy is at the bottom of the article.

Ya going to send him a "love letter", Mandy? Perhaps an "E-Clue x 4"?

How come this isn't hamas' chickens coming home to roost? Or does that meme only apply to America?

re: #3 BlueCanuck

As you said, just two words: Unindicted Co-conspirators.

/they gotta stick up for their peeps.

Good afternoon, Blue.

I hate Peeps!

who the f*ck cair's about cair...?

G-d be with the brave men and women of the IDF.

Cair speaks for the 20 million muslim americans or is it 24 million this week

WASHINGTON, Dec. 27 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — A prominent national Radical Islamic civil rights and advocacy group today condoned Israeli attacks response to the murderers that live in the Gaza Strip.

How it should have read, fuck cair in the ass.

Memo to CAIR:

But for Hamas not firing all those rockets and mortars at Israel, Israel would not have attacked with such force.

For Hamas, but for Israel's existence, Hamas would not have fired all those kassams and mortars and plotted all those terrorist attacks, infiltrations, and ongoing calls for Israel's destruction.

CAIR, you side with Hamas because you too seek Israel's destruction. By failing to speak out against the ongoing terror campaign perpetrated by Hamas against Israel, including the ongoing and repeated breaches of the hudna with mortar and rocket and missile fire, you expose yourself as nothing but a bunch of terrorist sympathizers in suits. It's a shame that we can only continue calling you unindicted coconspirators in terrorism.

re: #23 Nevergiveup

Pats are throwing?

Not here in South Jersey - calm about 60 degrees.

CAIR, America's largest Islamic civil liberties group, has 35 offices and chapters nationwide and in Canada. Its mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding.

BULLSHIT

I don't know how smart bombs can be ''bad'' when blind rocket attacks can be ignored.
this is the December grid of rocket attacks into Israel from Gazza.
[Link: elderofziyon.blogspot.com...]
And there are links to previous months.

re: #11 Wyatt Earp

Why doesn't America shun this organization. It's akin to receiving a press release from O.J. Simpson. Except O.J. has less blood on his hands.

Obama, Franken, Reid, Pelosi ... I could go on ...
These are (with one possible exception) elected officials.
If America doesn't shun those, why would we expect that it would shun CAIR?

re: #30 Sharmuta

How come this isn't hamas' chickens coming home to roost? Or does that meme only apply to America?

Sharm=genius

Today on Face the Nation David Axelrod dances around the question when he's asked if The One will be equally supportive of Israel at GWB has been.

REID: Let’s go with the headlines today. We’ve got to. The news is just really difficult in Gaza, right now, nearly 300 killed in Israeli air strikes.

The Bush administration response, so far, has been to blame Hamas and to urge Israel to be very careful about civilian casualties.

Now, I suspect, if I ask you specifically what Barack Obama would do here, you’ll tell me that there’s only one president at a time.

So let me ask you a slightly different question, which is, do you anticipate that the Obama administration will be just as supportive of Israel as the Bush administration has been?

AXELROD: Well, certainly, the president-elect recognizes the special relationship between United States and Israel. It’s an important bond, an important relationship. He’s going to honor it.

And he wants to be a constructive force in helping to bring about the peace and security that both the Israelis and the Palestinians want and deserve.

And obviously, this situation has become even more complicated in the last couple of days and weeks. As Hamas began its shelling, Israel responded. But it’s something that he’s committed to.

REID: But do you think he will be equally as supportive of Israel as the Bush administration?

AXELROD: I think he -- I think, as I said, I think he recognizes that special relationship. He’s going to work closely with the Israelis. They’re a great ally of ours, the most important ally in the region. And -- and that that is a fundamental principle from which he’ll work.

But he will do so in a way that will promote the cause of peace, and work closely with the Israelis and the Palestinians on that -- toward that objective.

re: #7 Nevergiveup

The Buffalo Bills are doing their best impression of Ohio State today. The first quarter is almost over and they have not thrown the ball yet?

/the 40 mph wind with 60 mph gusts might have something to do with it, don't expect any field goal attempts either

I don't remember CAIR getting this all hot and bothered over the massacre in Mumbai. They were more worried about "backlash."

Where is CAIR headquartered...and can the IAF spare a sortie?

re: #43 Alouette

I don't remember CAIR getting this all hot and bothered over the massacre in Mumbai. They were more worried about "backlash."

They were very hot and bothered...about the usual anti muslim backlash ( which once again, didn't happen)

re: #43 Alouette

I don't remember CAIR getting this all hot and bothered over the massacre in Mumbai. They were more worried about "backlash."

Good point.

re: #31 jorline

Good afternoon, Blue.

I hate Peeps!

Your going to be in big trouble with the Peeps Liberation Front!...:)

re: #41 NJDhockeyfan

Today on Face the Nation David Axelrod dances around the question when he's asked if The One will be equally supportive of Israel at GWB has been.

It's so GREAT to have lawyers back in charge of the Presidency/SPIT

Why don't you let PR Newswire know what you think of their policy of taking money from terrorists to run their propaganda?

[Link: www.prnewswire.com...]

re: #31 jorline

Afternoon jorline. Peeps have to be properly aged before eating.

/gotta go, pillow is starting to stalk me. have a good one all.

carried out using U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons.

April 15th will be less painful this year.

re: #42 Killian Bundy

/the 40 mph wind with 60 mph gusts might have something to do with it, don't expect any field goal attempts either

The pats already converted one. 3-0

re: #31 jorline

Good afternoon, Blue.

I hate Peeps!

Then this is for you!

re: #41 NJDhockeyfan

AXELROD: Well, certainly, the president-elect recognizes the special relationship between United States and Israel. It’s an important bond, an important relationship. He’s going to honor it.

And he wants to be a constructive force in helping to bring about the peace and security that both the Israelis and the Palestinians want and deserve.

And obviously, this situation has become even more complicated in the last couple of days and weeks. As Hamas began its shelling, Israel responded. But it’s something that he’s committed to.

The Israelis have shown more forebearance than imaginable. Either he's lying or he's not been paying attention for months.

re: #44 opinionated

Where is CAIR headquartered...?

That's a rather severe fate.

re: #30 Sharmuta

How come this isn't hamas' chickens coming home to roost? Or does that meme only apply to America?

Only America.

Because in the minds of people wishing for the destruction/humiliation of America and the civilized parts of the west, Hamas/Fatah and their ignorant minions have never done anything wrong.

re: #31 jorline

Good afternoon, Blue.

I hate Peeps!

And some performance art just for you!

re: #45 Shug

They were very hot and bothered...about the usual anti muslim backlash ( which once again, didn't happen)

Yeah, people giving Muslims dirty looks is much worse than cold blooded murder of random tourists, commuters, and a rabbi and his pregnant wife.

/

Here's a pictorial response to CAIR:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

re: #44 opinionated

I googled the phone number for CAIR and got this.

[Link: www.zoominfo.com...]

re: #28 DistantThunder

Let's see - what else can CAIR stand for?

Corrupt Arrogant Infantile Remonstrators

(Remonstrate [-strating, -strated] Formal to argue in protest or objection: the player remonstrated loudly with the official [Latin re- again + monstrare to show]
remonstration n)

Here are some others:

Council of Angry Islamofascist Radicals
Caliphate American Islamic Republic

re: #52 Nevergiveup

The pats already converted one. 3-0

/must've had the wind at their backs, it'd be more fun if it were a crosswind

Red Cross: Gaza hospitals are overcapacity, turning away wounded
By JPOST.COM STAFF

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Then maybe instead of building rockets to kill Jews with, they should have been building hospitals to save Palestinians with?

re: #49 MJ

Why don't you let PR Newswire know what you think of their policy of taking money from terrorists to run their propaganda?

[Link: www.prnewswire.com...]

They also print stuff from the GOP in Congress. See my No. 20.

re: #43 Alouette

I don't remember CAIR getting this all hot and bothered over the massacre in Mumbai. They were more worried about "backlash."

CAIR responds to Mumbai terrorism

Wow, that's a sternly written condemnation! Whew, those terrorist bastards in Kashmir will never again blow up anyone after reading that dressing up and and dressing down... /

re: #41 NJDhockeyfan
Love this bit:

AXELROD: I think he -- I think, as I said, I think he recognizes that special relationship. He’s going to work closely with the Israelis. They’re a great ally of ours, the most important ally in the region. And -- and that that is a fundamental principle from which he’ll work.

But he will do so in a way that will promote the cause of peace, and work closely with the Israelis and the Palestinians on that -- toward that objective.

which, roughly translated, means Obama will - as did Bush -ask Israel to show "restraint" while the rockets and mortars rain down on Israeli's. And I think THIS time the Israeli's will blow off the US POTUS, be it Bush now or Obama on the 21st of January.
The time for "talk and communication" is well past.

CAIR to Israel . . .

/you'll take daily rocket fire from Hamas, a few Jews killed each week, and like it

re: #10 Bloodnok

From the link:

CAIR noted that the European Union (EU), Russia, the UN Secretary-General, the Arab League, the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), and other international bodies are all urging Israel to end it attacks

Them's some big allies there.

/

Yep - and they now have good old Gord in that camp as well:
Britain hardens position on Israel, as world calls for end to violence.
Like Condi ...

Its as if they all 'allow' Israel to slap Hamas about a bit, but please not too much.
Disgusting.
I hope the Israeli government decides for once not to give a fig for 'world opinion'!

After 1 Quarter: Packers 14, Lie-Downs 0!

re: #62 Killian Bundy

/must've had the wind at their backs, it'd be more fun if it were a crosswind

Actually the Bills just tried one from 30 yards. The kicker started it out far left and it ended up far right like a knuckle ball. Still Pats 3-0

re: #61 Macker

Here are some others:

Council of Angry Islamofascist Radicals
Caliphate American Islamic Republic

Can't Admit Islam's Responsible
Crying About Islamophobia Relentlessly
Creeps, Assholes, Imbeciles and Robbers
Churches Are Incinerated Regularly

re: #63 Nevergiveup

Red Cross: Gaza hospitals are overcapacity, turning away wounded
By JPOST.COM STAFF

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Then maybe instead of building rockets to kill Jews with, they should have been building hospitals to save Palestinians with?

Oh. so true, and the embodiment of reaping as they sowed.

Secondly, why "Red Cross"? Isn't supposed to be "Red Crescent" over there?

re: #63 Nevergiveup
Gee, ya think?!
/

re: #69 Macker

After 1 Quarter: Packers 14, Lie-Downs 0!

Well maybe the lie-downs want to go out in style?

Wait! This isn't another "flying pig" moment?

Isn't Rubin a Jewish name?

re: #72 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh. so true, and the embodiment of reaping as they sowed.

Secondly, why "Red Cross"? Isn't supposed to be "Red Crescent" over there?

Egypt says the Hamas militant group, which controls Gaza, is preventing hundreds of wounded Palestinians from leaving for treatment in Egypt...

re: #57 goddessoftheclassroom

And some performance art just for you!

POLE DANCING?!
*GASP*
Goddess! ... STOP posting that stuff, you licentious wench, you!

re: #76 MandyManners

Isn't Rubin a Jewish name?

I thought it was a sandwich?

re: #66 realwest

Love this bit:

which, roughly translated, means Obama will - as did Bush -ask Israel to show "restraint" while the rockets and mortars rain down on Israeli's. And I think THIS time the Israeli's will blow off the US POTUS, be it Bush now or Obama on the 21st of January.
The time for "talk and communication" is well past.

It seems that every President (even Bush) puts the onus of reponsibility on the Israelis...they are the ones that have to give up land, money, power, security. Why is this process upside down? The Arab world, Europe, etc, etc never seem to demand HAMAS stop with the blowing up stuff and rocket attacks...it's always Israel that has to give up something. And, the more they give up, the more rockets fly into their lands.

Obama will come into this process full of confidence. But, it is my guess he will soon see there is no solution to this problem as long as one side continues to want the first and only condition to be the destruction of the other side.

re: #64 MandyManners

They also print stuff from the GOP in Congress. See my No. 20.

PR Newswire will print pretty much anything from anyone, as long as their check doesn't bounce.

They have no ideological orientation, as far as I know.

re: #78 pre-Boomer Marine brat

POLE DANCING?!
*GASP*
Goddess! ... STOP posting that stuff, you licentious wench, you!

licentious?

Anyone?

OT;

WTF moment of the day.

Suicide bomber blows himself up at Iraqi protest against Gaza raids (AP)

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

re: #82 Dustyvet

licentious?

Heh ... typing fast.
If I'm misusing it, goddess will have a free shot at me.

/as if she needs an excuse.

Patriots driving Jets are dying

Hamas Rockets...

re: #84 manker

OT;

WTF moment of the day.

Suicide bomber blows himself up at Iraqi protest against Gaza raids (AP)

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Maybe it will catch on and all of them will blow themselves up in protest?

re: #78 pre-Boomer Marine brat

POLE DANCING?!
*GASP*
Goddess! ... STOP posting that stuff, you licentious wench, you!

MWAH!
I don't think I've ever been called a "licentious wench" before!

I do think that picture is one of the cleverest ones there. I mean, did you notice the tiny bills in the bunnies' garters?

re: #68 yma o hyd Well {yma} as you well know, there's a strong streak of Anti-Semitism running through the English character.
It's not quite like Condi's statement; this was a SHIFT in postions by GB; Condi's statement was more a sorta "wish it hadn't come to this but Israel does have a right to defend itself."
Gordon Brown (aka, horse's ass) apparently thinks Israels actions so far will prevent Hamas from firing rockets and mortars into Israel in the future. He is a dolt.

re: #84 manker

OT;

WTF moment of the day.

Suicide bomber blows himself up at Iraqi protest against Gaza raids (AP)

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

That'll teach them stupid Israelis?

re: #77 Dustyvet

Egypt says the Hamas militant group, which controls Gaza, is preventing hundreds of wounded Palestinians from leaving for treatment in Egypt...

Of course. Hamas needs them for photo ops.

/

re: #63 Nevergiveup

Red Cross: Gaza hospitals are overcapacity, turning away wounded

I find the scenes of the "wounded" being carried, dragged, stuffed into cars, pulled in various directions, etc, to reach a hospital- in ways that would injure even a totally healthy person- endlessly amusing.

CAIR needs to go back to worrying themselves over women's headscarves.

Perhaps they could start some sort of charity to raise money for Hamas and similar groups in the Holy Land. A Foundation.

re: #76 MandyManners

Isn't Rubin a Jewish name?

Struck me too. Even Amina could be Jewish.

re: #83 MandyManners

Anyone?

Rubin is a Jewish name. Yes.

re: #87 Killgore Trout

Hamas Rockets...

Heh.

That would be funny if it wasn't so true. What kind of man hides behind woman and children? Answer: none...a real man does not do that

re: #84 manker

OT;

WTF moment of the day.

Suicide bomber blows himself up at Iraqi protest against Gaza raids (AP)

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Slow news day?

Well it's been very interesting as usual, but I gotta go eat some lunch now. Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Why is a Jewis woman CAIR's coordinator of communications?re: #96 Opinionated

Struck me too. Even Amina could be Jewish.

re: #97 rightymouse

Rubin is a Jewish name. Yes.

re: #89 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH!
I don't think I've ever been called a "licentious wench" before!

I do think that picture is one of the cleverest ones there. I mean, did you notice the tiny bills in the bunnies' garters?

HAH!
No, I didn't notice. Had to go back and look a second time.

re: #94 Aisha bint Abi Bakr

CAIR needs to go back to worrying themselves over women's headscarves.

Aisha. Izzat you? If so, you've been sorely missed.

re: #53 goddessoftheclassroom

Then this is for you!

{goddess}

Too funny

re: #63 Nevergiveup

Hamas 'bars injured leaving Gaza'

Egypt says the Hamas militant group, which controls Gaza, is preventing hundreds of wounded Palestinians from leaving for treatment in Egypt.

Cairo says dozens of empty ambulances are at the Rafah crossing - the only one to Gaza which avoids Israel.
...
Egypt has helicopters and doctors on standby at the Rafah crossing.

There are also up to 40 ambulances waiting to go into Gaza to bring out the most seriously wounded. Tonnes of medical supplies have arrived at the nearby airport of El-Arish.

But the Egyptian authorities say that, at the moment, they have no-one to treat.

Egypt's Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said the wounded were "barred from crossing" and he blamed "those in control of Gaza" for putting the lives of the injured at risk.

It's very important for Hamas to keep the Palestinian death toll as high as possible.

re: #104 jorline

{goddess}

Too funny

{jorline}
I don't care for Peeps, either, but they are cute!

So who on the Gaza side is providing logistics to Israel for locations of weapon caches, rocket factories, tunnels, etc? I realize Israel has a good idea of some of the locations, but to be able to pinpoint attacks requires specific coordinates.

re: #90 realwest

Well {yma} as you well know, there's a strong streak of Anti-Semitism running through the English character.
It's not quite like Condi's statement; this was a SHIFT in postions by GB; Condi's statement was more a sorta "wish it hadn't come to this but Israel does have a right to defend itself."
Gordon Brown (aka, horse's ass) apparently thinks Israels actions so far will prevent Hamas from firing rockets and mortars into Israel in the future. He is a dolt.

He is worse than a dolt - yesterday he called for Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel, today its a hasty backshuffle, falling in line with the French, and the UN.
That man is a disaster, for us here and for the world. No spine, no principle, just expediency.

Pats just missed a field goal from the 5 yard line. I guess that wind up in Buffalo is gonna effect the game? Jets still breathing

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Hamas 'bars injured leaving Gaza'

It's very important for Hamas to keep the Palestinian death toll as high as possible.

They'll stop at nothing to garner sympathy.

Note: CAIR is reduced to using press releases to issue these statements. The mainstream media seem much less ready to parrot CAIR’s propaganda lately.

Why? They are on the same side.

re: #107 solomonpanting

So who on the Gaza side is providing logistics to Israel for locations of weapon caches, rocket factories, tunnels, etc? I realize Israel has a good idea of some of the locations, but to be able to pinpoint attacks requires specific coordinates.

They have been planning this for months. That is why their response the last few months has been so feeble. They knew just where and when to hit.

Can anyone tell me why a Jewish woman is CAIR's coordinator of communications?

re: #107 solomonpanting

So who on the Gaza side is providing logistics to Israel for locations of weapon caches, rocket factories, tunnels, etc? I realize Israel has a good idea of some of the locations, but to be able to pinpoint attacks requires specific coordinates.

Very good question!

I've no idea ...

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Hamas 'bars injured leaving Gaza'

It's very important for Hamas to keep the Palestinian death toll as high as possible.

Cold-blooded, politicized, bastards.

re: #108 yma o hyd

He is worse than a dolt - yesterday he called for Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel, today its a hasty backshuffle, falling in line with the French, and the UN.
That man is a disaster, for us here and for the world. No spine, no principle, just expediency.

He is certainly making Tony Blair look good thought ain't he?

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Hamas 'bars injured leaving Gaza'

It's very important for Hamas to keep the Palestinian death toll as high as possible.

I wonder what explanation Hamas will offer for that delay?

re: #101 MandyManners

Why is a Jewis woman CAIR's coordinator of communications?

We have Jewish moonbats here (in Israel too).

No great surprise. Moonbats come in all flavors.

Let there be no doubt that the Council on American-Islamic Relations
is a terrorist supporting front organization that is partially funded
by terrorists, founded by terrorists, and that CAIR wishes nothing
more than the implementation of Sharia Law in America

re: #113 MandyManners

Can anyone tell me why a Jewish woman is CAIR's coordinator of communications?

Can anyone tell me why a Jewish person voted for Obama?

Good mid-morning goddess... ((goddess))

Interesting statement by the U.N. Security Council:

Instead, "the members of the Security Council expressed serious concern at the escalation of the situation in Gaza and called for an immediate halt to all violence. The members called on the parties to stop immediately all military activities."

So - they are concerned at the "escalation" of the situation.

Does this mean they were not so concerned when Hamas began sending bombs into Israel, but only found cause to be concerned when Israel began responding in defense?

re: #118 rightymouse

We have Jewish moonbats here (in Israel too).

No great surprise. Moonbats come in all flavors.

This goes beyond moonbattery.

re: #113 MandyManners

Can anyone tell me why a Jewish woman is CAIR's coordinator of communications?

If you can explain a bitch like Amira Hass.

The mainstream media seem much less ready to parrot CAIR’s propaganda lately.

Amy goodman of Pacifica Radio will take up the slack.

re: #120 Nevergiveup

Can anyone tell me why a Jewish person voted for Obama?

Not the same. Not the same at all. CBBHO has not called for the destruction of Israel.

re: #124 Opinionated

If you can explain a bitch like Amira Hass.

Who?

re: #113 MandyManners

Can anyone tell me why a Jewish woman is CAIR's coordinator of communications?

I'll need a DSM-IV

re: #121 doriangrey

Good mid-morning goddess... ((goddess))

Keep up your artistic integrity...MWAH!

{doriangrey}

re: #116 Nevergiveup

He is certainly making Tony Blair look good thought ain't he?

Ha!
Only because Tony Blair had at least some charm.
Blair did the same sort of shilly-shallying during the 2006 Lebanon war - and where is he now?
He's supposed to work for 'Peace in the ME', a job President Bush created for him, and he gets a huge amount of money for it - not one word from him, not one!

re: #81 lobo91

PR Newswire will print pretty much anything from anyone, as long as their check doesn't bounce.

They have no ideological orientation, as far as I know.

This is true, they will print any swill from anyone, they are the mercenary news service. ...

Wait a minute... mercenaries are better than that, they have some rules... /Apologies to all mercenaries.

re: #112 Nevergiveup

They have been planning this for months. That is why their response the last few months has been so feeble. They knew just where and when to hit.

Are you saying they used the hudna even more efficiently than Hamas?

re: #128 Shug

I'll need a DSM-IV

Oh, good one.

re: #126 MandyManners

Not the same. Not the same at all. CBBHO has not called for the destruction of Israel.

It's still not in America or Israels best interest.

How much shelling from Hamas does Israel have to take? Israel has been patient beyond belief and it is now time to strike back. If CAIR doesn't like it they might want to consider less support for Hamas and their stupid activities.

re: #113 MandyManners

Can anyone tell me why a Jewish woman is CAIR's coordinator of communications?

Economy's bad? Jobs are tough to find?

Looks like we have an AQ member in custody in Texas...

Suspected operative for al-Qaida held at center in El Paso

EL PASO -- A Lebanese man who was part of a complex federal investigation into a suspected U.S. terrorist network with ties to al-Qaida is in custody at the El Paso immigration detention center facing deportation, officials have confirmed.

According to court documents, Mohamad Kamal Elzahabi, 44, told the FBI he was a freedom fighter in 1988 and 1989 against the Soviets in Afghanistan, where he also attended a jihad military training camp, provided small-arms instruction and was a sniper.

re: #113 MandyManners

Can anyone tell me why a Jewish woman is CAIR's coordinator of communications?

Sadly, Self-haters are a dime a dozen.

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Hamas 'bars injured leaving Gaza'

It's very important for Hamas to keep the Palestinian death toll as high as possible.

ROTFLMAO... Yea, RIGHT... I saw an article earlier that said the Egyptians were shooting Palestinians trying to flee across the Egyptian border...

re: #127 MandyManners

Who?

Amira Hass

Reporter and Palestine apologist

re: #122 reine.de.tout

Interesting statement by the U.N. Security Council:

So - they are concerned at the "escalation" of the situation.

Does this mean they were not so concerned when Hamas began sending bombs into Israel, but only found cause to be concerned when Israel began responding in defense?

Yes, that is exactly what it means.

re: #122 reine.de.tout

Interesting statement by the U.N. Security Council:

So - they are concerned at the "escalation" of the situation.

Does this mean they were not so concerned when Hamas began sending bombs into Israel, but only found cause to be concerned when Israel began responding in defense?

What do you think!

With Libya in the Security Council? I'm surprised they are not - yet! - blaming Isrel for eveything ...

re: #136 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Economy's bad? Jobs are tough to find?

She's been at this job at least a year.

re: #119 Dustyvet

Let there be no doubt that the Council on American-Islamic Relations
is a terrorist supporting front organization that is partially funded
by terrorists, founded by terrorists, and that CAIR wishes nothing
more than the implementation of Sharia Law in America

To me, CAIR is kinda like Muslim equivalent of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. If anything happens that involves a Muslim, they put a microphone in front of one of their spokesmen or print their news releases. The MSM has given CAIR way more respect and influence than it actually deserves. It's membership has dwindled since 2001, yet, it is propped up like they speak for all Muslims in the USA.

They speak for their puppet masters and no one else...follow the money and you'll see who they speak for.

re: #120 Nevergiveup

Can anyone tell me why a Jewish person voted for Obama?

Or Keith Ellison? Part of his district is St. Louis Park, Minnesota, which has a large Jewish population.

re: #134 Nevergiveup

It's still not in America or Israels best interest.

It's still not the same as calling for the destruction of Israel.

re: #135 Miss Molly

Hamas has launched over 3,000 rockets and mortars this year. CAIR never had anything to say about that.

re: #123 MandyManners

This goes beyond moonbattery.

Yes, it does. But so does most of our left these days.

re: #135 Miss Molly

How much shelling from Hamas does Israel have to take? Israel has been patient beyond belief and it is now time to strike back. If CAIR doesn't like it they might want to consider less support for Hamas and their stupid activities.

EXACTLY!

It's a little like my two kids used to be. The younger one annoyed the older (and bigger) one until the older one got fed up and flattened him. Younger one started howling.

But they've grown up since then, unlike Hamas.

re: #146 MandyManners

It's still not the same as calling for the destruction of Israel.

When did Cair call for the destruction of the state of Israel?

re: #150 Nevergiveup

When did Cair call for the destruction of the state of Israel?

Islam.

re: #113 MandyManners

Can anyone tell me why a Jewish woman is CAIR's coordinator of communications?

I wouldn't assume she's Jewish just because of her last name. Whoopi Goldberg isn't Jewish either.

More on Rubin:
[Link: web.randolphcollege.edu...]

re: #151 MandyManners

Islam.

Ha?

re: #148 rightymouse

Yes, it does. But so does most of our left these days.

I just cannot wrap my brain around that.

re: #137 NJDhockeyfan

Looks like we have an AQ member in custody in Texas...

Suspected operative for al-Qaida held at center in El Paso

oh great...just downstate from me...wtf is he doing in some backwater like El Paso?

re: #155 albusteve

He may have been down there to guide some others coming across the border.

re: #132 solomonpanting

Are you saying they used the hudna even more efficiently than Hamas?

Looks like it.
Looks like some people in the IDF have truly learned from the 2006 war.

I think its outstanding, they way they prepared for this, and it fills me with righteous glee that for once the concept of hudna has been used against jihadist terrorists!

re: #152 MJ

I wouldn't assume she's Jewish just because of her last name. Whoopi Goldberg isn't Jewish either.

More on Rubin:
[Link: web.randolphcollege.edu...]

Oh, wow. She founded a group nammed UMMAH. Gee. Where have we heard that before?!

re: #127 MandyManners

Who?

Palestinian propagandist. As radical as they come.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Amira Hass is an Israeli journalist and author, mostly known for her columns in the daily newspaper Ha'aretz. She is especially famous for living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and reporting on events regarding Palestinians in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

re: #155 albusteve

oh great...just downstate from me...wtf is he doing in some backwater like El Paso?

Helloiee... Easy border access...

re: #156 jaunte

He may have been down there to guide some others coming across the border.

we have some juicy targets up here in NM especially ABQ and Los Alamos

re: #155 albusteve

oh great...just downstate from me...wtf is he doing in some backwater like El Paso?

There's been at least one link posted here re terrorists coming in across the southern border using faked Hispanic identities. I don't recall where/what the link was. Perhaps someone else in the room at the moment does.

re: #54 MandyManners

AXELROD: Well, certainly, the president-elect recognizes the special relationship between United States and Israel. It’s an important bond, an important relationship. He’s going to honor it.

And he wants to be a constructive force in helping to bring about the peace and security that both the Israelis and the Palestinians want and deserve.

And obviously, this situation has become even more complicated in the last couple of days and weeks. As Hamas began its shelling, Israel responded. But it’s something that he’s committed to.

The Israelis have shown more forebearance than imaginable. Either he's lying or he's not been paying attention for months.

Want and deserve? That's BS. the palis don't want it nor do they deserve it.

re: #159 Opinionated

A Jewish Rachel Corrie?

re: #163 FrogMarch

Want and deserve? That's BS. the palis don't want it nor do they deserve it.

Some do.

re: #160 doriangrey

Helloiee... Easy border access...

the question is which way is he going and of course why

re: #152 MJ

I wouldn't assume she's Jewish just because of her last name. Whoopi Goldberg isn't Jewish either.

More on Rubin:
[Link: web.randolphcollege.edu...]

Rubin may be a convert.

re: #159 Opinionated

Have you seen this book?
Israel's Jewish Defamers: The Media Dimension
[Link: www.camera.org...]

re: #164 MandyManners

A Jewish Rachel Corrie?

She's a bit more 3D in her propaganda, though. Much more of a round character.

/

re: #164 MandyManners

A Jewish Rachel Corrie?

Not yet. But one can hope.

re: #161 albusteve

Luckily they don't know about the ultra-secret installation buried under Enchanted Rock, down in central Texas.

re: #165 MandyManners

Some do.

Some Palestinians want peace?

re: #167 rightymouse

Rubin may be a convert.

Or a 50-50

As far as CAIR is concerned anything muslims do is good and everyone else is BAD. CAIR never mentioned a word about the 3000 plus strikes against Israel but are now crying their fake tears over Israel finally striking back.

Hamas has a lot of new weapons they are itching to use and if they keep up these attacks Israel might just decide to finish the job.

re: #161 albusteve

we have some juicy targets up here in NM especially ABQ and Los Alamos

Juiciest target there is that little chili-dog house to the west of downtown.

/daughter & her family live in abq

re: #171 jaunte

Luckily they don't know about the ultra-secret installation buried under Enchanted Rock, down in central Texas.

or the space alien weapons repository in northern New Mex...

re: #172 FrogMarch

Some Palestinians want peace?

Yes. They are not made with a cookie cutter. They are people.

re: #175 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Juiciest target there is that little chili-dog house to the west of downtown.

/daughter & her family live in abq

Ha!...I feel better already!

re: #165 MandyManners

Some do.

What I should have said it that I do not care for the left's constant use of the word "Deserve". It ranks right up there with all of their social justice crapola. IMHO - No one deserves anything.

re: #176 albusteve

Don't even mention what's at the bottom of Bottomless Lakes...

re: #175 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Juiciest target there is that little chili-dog house to the west of downtown.

/daughter & her family live in abq

MWAH!

Over the years I have found it humorous to see pictures of Palestinians throwing rocks...today they're still doing the same thing.

Fire rockets...throw rocks...fire rockets...throw rocks...

Hamas Hell = A barren land devoid of rocks.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein

re: #154 MandyManners

I just cannot wrap my brain around that.

I can't either. But my boss is a Roosevelt era Dem (Jewish) and at best, is ambivalent towards Israel. We have hellacious arguments about this.

re: #177 swamprat

Yes. They are not made with a cookie cutter. They are people.

oh hear we go again. I didn't say they were not people.
Please give me an example of the "some". that's all. Enlighten me, please.

re: #155 albusteve

There's almost 3 million people living in El Paso and Juarez. It is a large metropolitan area. And, the Mexican side is basically having a civil war between the Drug Cartels and the officials on their payroll versus what's left of the "honest" Federales. The same thing is happening on all major border towns along the US-Mexican Border. Tijuana, Nogales, Juarez...it is safer in Baghdad than it is any of those cities. It is the Wild, Wild West down there...a perfect place to exploit.

And, now that the economy up here is slowing down, many of the illegals up here are going back and not as many are coming up...so, they will have higher unemployment and less of the all crucial remittances coming from the Mexican nationals up here sending back home to Mexico. And, since the price of oil started falling, the other source of hard currency is drying up. We have a tinder box down on the border. I wonder why nobody up here is noticing it?

re: #170 Opinionated

Not yet. But one can hope.

Is she there now?

re: #179 FrogMarch

The guys who wrote our Constitution disagree.

re: #171 jaunte

Luckily they don't know about the ultra-secret installation buried under Enchanted Rock, down in central Texas.

Quiet.

re: #168 MJ

Have you seen this book?
Israel's Jewish Defamers: The Media Dimension
[Link: www.camera.org...]

It's depressing enough to read Haaretz and the occassion fools JPost carries.

re: #172 FrogMarch

Some Palestinians want peace?

Yes. They're not automatons.

re: #172 FrogMarch

Some Palestinians want peace?

Yes. There is that one guy that likes to wear dresses on Saturday night and the gal that goes by the nickname "Kandi Bubbles", so there are 2.

re: #167 rightymouse

Rubin may be a convert.

That could be.
Speaking of converts, anyone heard from Adam Gadahn lately or has been confirmed he was killed?

re: #184 FrogMarch

(insert apropiate ad hominum here)

re: #180 jaunte

Don't even mention what's at the bottom of Bottomless Lakes...

dont worry...we all took the Oath of Ignorance...

re: #186 MandyManners

Is she there now?

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

re: #179 FrogMarch

What I should have said it that I do not care for the left's constant use of the word "Deserve". It ranks right up there with all of their social justice crapola. IMHO - No one deserves anything.

I cannot agree.

re: #177 swamprat

Yes. They are not made with a cookie cutter. They are people.

This is an interesting thread.
I watched all the episodes of "Band of Brothers" yesterday on the History Channel, back-to-back.
Reminds me of stuff my dad told me about a few of his experiences in Germany, about the Germans, German Soldiers, and Nazis.
I think I agree with you, swamprat.

re: #181 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH!

Once more ... goddess appears ... yep, it's her!

( MWAH! )

re: #183 rightymouse

I can't either. But my boss is a Roosevelt era Dem (Jewish) and at best, is ambivalent towards Israel. We have hellacious arguments about this.

Ambivalent about Israel? I just don't understand that.

re: #187 swamprat

The guys who wrote our Constitution disagree.

No they would not. There was never any discussion about 'deserving' anything.

Obama bristles as the bubble closes in

The media glare, the constant security appendage and the sheer production that has become a morning jog or a hankering for an ice cream cone – it’s been closing in on Barack Obama for some time.

Now the president-elect appears increasingly conscious of the confines of his new position, bristling at the routine demands of press coverage and beginning to chafe at boundaries that are only going to get smaller.

Obama even took the unusual step Friday morning of leaving behind the pool of reporters assigned to follow him, taking his daughters to a nearby water park without them. It was a breach of longstanding protocol between presidents (or presidents-elect) and the media, that a gaggle of reporters representing television, print and wire services is with his motorcade at all times.

Then when reporters finally caught up with Obama at Koko Marina Paradise Deli and he acknowledged them for one of few times since arriving in Hawaii last Saturday, he sounded resigned.

After ordering a tuna melt on 12-grain bread, Obama approached reporters and placed his hand on the shoulder of pool reporter Philip Rucker of The Washington Post, who was scribbling away in his notebook.

“You don't really need to write all that down,” Obama said.

Ooh, the pressure is already starting to get to him and he hasn't even been sworn in yet!

/maybe we''ll get lucky and he'll just quit, for the good of Michelle's children

re: #166 albusteve

the question is which way is he going and of course why

The answer is... Both ways... Plots take time to hatch, they require, people and materials, both which have to be smuggled in. What the Texas authorities need to do is squeeze ole Momo until he tells them where he is stockpiling his shit and who he's getting it from down in Mexico.

The Texas authorities are either insanely incompetent for releasing any information regarding his arrest, or have already obtained that information. I'll leave speculating on which they are to lizards better acquainted with the Texas law enforcement community.

If this were here in InSane Diego Ca. my money would be on incompetent and corrupt.

re: #177 swamprat

Yes. They are not made with a cookie cutter. They are people.

Which piece?

re: #155 albusteve

oh great...just downstate from me...wtf is he doing in some backwater like El Paso?

I would be just as concerned that he and his buddies were all cab drivers in Boston. Seems way too easy to rig a cab and leave it unattended...

Hope the DOJ is checking that out - seems like quite the coinky-dink that all three would settle in the same profession. Makes you wonder about the background check

"Can you drive?"

"Yea? Then off you go."

And they had licenses? Who checked their background so they could get those?

re: #184 FrogMarch

re: #191 VegasRick

Yes. There is that one guy that likes to wear dresses on Saturday night and the gal that goes by the nickname "Kandi Bubbles", so there are 2.

re: #192 MJ

That could be.
Speaking of converts, anyone heard from Adam Gadahn lately or has been confirmed he was killed?

Hopefully, he is down there in one of the lower levels of Hell being tortured forever along with his Allah and his prophet

i've just about given up on British media now, so anti-israel is its slant.

its come down to this - about the ONLY friend of israel is America right now.

and as a European, and a British citizen, i find that situation to be an UTTER disgrace - considering that we Europeans tried our damn best to exterminate the Jews. we (as in Europe) have learned nothing from history - instead we cosy up to Islamists and assorted left wing moonbat bigots...

its a disgrace.

case in point - charles previous post - that was organised by the PSOE - the party in charge of the friggin Spanish government!

re: #197 jwb7605

Thanks.

Israel is going to great lengths to kill Hamas, and leave the civilians alone. I respect that.

re: #192 MJ

That could be.
Speaking of converts, anyone heard from Adam Gadahn lately or has been confirmed he was killed?

Haven't heard anything more on him. Thank goodness.

re: #187 swamprat

The guys who wrote our Constitution disagree.

And, the preamble to the Declaration of Independence.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

re: #187 swamprat

The guys who wrote our Constitution disagree.

What are you talking about? I'm not talking about our constitution. I'm talking about the general concept of deserving something. Everyone deserves free health care, the Palestinians deserve a state, the auto makers deserve a bailout, etc. No one should think because they deserve a nanny state government to think for them etc...

re: #201 Killian Bundy

I get the feeling that he woke up this morning thinking "Why did I want this job" "Who talked me into this" "I am so screwed"

re: #195 Opinionated

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Gah.
What a lovely weepy piece she wrote!

I wonder if she's ever written anything like that about all the families living under the constant bombardment of the Qassam rockets, like in Sderot?

Has anyone mentioned lately that Obama has:

ZERO military experience
ZERO foreign policy experience
ZERO business experience
ZERO governing experience and
ZERO economic experience?

Just in case ya'll have forgotten...

re: #201 Killian Bundy

Uh oh, the Presidency requires discipline. Who knew?
/

re: #192 MJ

That could be.
Speaking of converts, anyone heard from Adam Gadahn lately or has been confirmed he was killed?

I guess his cell phone doesn't get good reception 6 feet under?

re: #175 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Juiciest target there is that little chili-dog house to the west of downtown.

/daughter & her family live in abq

? So does that mean it's a good place to eat? Or so bad you hope it gets blown up?

re: #183 rightymouse

I can't either. But my boss is a Roosevelt era Dem (Jewish) and at best, is ambivalent towards Israel. We have hellacious arguments about this.

Whether a person is Jewish or not, ISRAEL IS A SOVEREIGN NATION! However one want to argue about its creation, IT'S A DONE DEAL! ISRAEL WON. Throughout history, when two or more interests contest something--land, trade routes, whatever--and fight over it, one side wins, the other loses, AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR THE WINNER TO APOLOGIZE FOR WINNING! Had the battle gone the other way, the other side wouldn't be apologizing or "making up," would it? Through the lens of time, we can judge tactics as being harsh or actions to have been unjust, but that is apply anachronistic standards. The result is what it is.

Why would ANYONE hesitate to support Israel, a democratic, independent country who is an ally?

re: #157 yma o hyd

Looks like it.
Looks like some people in the IDF have truly learned from the 2006 war.

I think its outstanding, they way they prepared for this, and it fills me with righteous glee that for once the concept of hudna has been used against jihadist terrorists!

Israel may have to station a force along the Gaza-Egypt border to detect new tunnels.

re: #195 Opinionated

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

I wonder if that asshole knows about Hamas refusing to let the wounded be carried to Egypt.

re: #201 Killian Bundy

Obama bristles as the bubble closes in

Ooh, the pressure is already starting to get to him and he hasn't even been sworn in yet!

/maybe we''ll get lucky and he'll just quit, for the good of Michelle's children

hmmm (seriously) ... and what if, one day, he utterly loses it for a moment? Throws a screaming frothy hissy-fit.

/buyer's remorse will be a bitch

re: #198 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Once more ... goddess appears ... yep, it's her!

( MWAH! )

Oh, how you deserve this!

re: #200 rightymouse

No they would not. There was never any discussion about 'deserving' anything.

Unalienable rights in the preamble to the Declaration of Independence are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

re: #214 DistantThunder

It's gonna be so great - the zero will say, hey you Hamas knuckleheads, cut it out.

re: #200 rightymouse

No they would not. There was never any discussion about 'deserving' anything.

You are correct.

re: #214 DistantThunder

Has anyone mentioned lately that Obama has:

ZERO military experience
ZERO foreign policy experience
ZERO business experience
ZERO governing experience and
ZERO economic experience?

Just in case ya'll have forgotten...

I'm not worried, not one bit. Why? Because he has two things you cannot discount: HOPE & CHANGE! (He also has GALL & ARROGANCE too) /

Hope those are enough to trump all of that stuff he doesn't have.

re: #214 DistantThunder

Has anyone mentioned lately that Obama has:

ZERO military experience
ZERO foreign policy experience
ZERO business experience
ZERO governing experience and
ZERO economic experience?

Just in case ya'll have forgotten...

But...but...he knows how to play hoops and he can wear a Speedo!
//

re: #214 DistantThunder

Has anyone mentioned lately that Obama has:

ZERO military experience
ZERO foreign policy experience
ZERO business experience
ZERO governing experience and
ZERO economic experience?

Just in case ya'll have forgotten...

How else could he provide hope and change?
Serious! He was elected because of those issues.
Now, there are undertones in articles expressing amazement that he seems to have no clue.

re: #185 Desert Dog

There's almost 3 million people living in El Paso and Juarez. It is a large metropolitan area. And, the Mexican side is basically having a civil war between the Drug Cartels and the officials on their payroll versus what's left of the "honest" Federales. The same thing is happening on all major border towns along the US-Mexican Border. Tijuana, Nogales, Juarez...it is safer in Baghdad than it is any of those cities. It is the Wild, Wild West down there...a perfect place to exploit.

And, now that the economy up here is slowing down, many of the illegals up here are going back and not as many are coming up...so, they will have higher unemployment and less of the all crucial remittances coming from the Mexican nationals up here sending back home to Mexico. And, since the price of oil started falling, the other source of hard currency is drying up. We have a tinder box down on the border. I wonder why nobody up here is noticing it?

I'm familiar with the situation...down in the SW there is a small sleepy town called Palomas, across from Columbus...maybe a few thousand people at most...they found twelve bodies laying in the mainstreet one morning...proportion is a very machismo thing... my ex was going to visit Mexacali yesterday and I vehemantly talked her out of it...and finally I thought I read recently where the feds stated there is NO Mexican town safe for travel anywhere on the border...I think El Paso/Juarez is by far the worst tho

re: #218 goddessoftheclassroom

Whether a person is Jewish or not, ISRAEL IS A SOVEREIGN NATION! However one want to argue about its creation, IT'S A DONE DEAL! ISRAEL WON. Throughout history, when two or more interests contest something--land, trade routes, whatever--and fight over it, one side wins, the other loses, AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR THE WINNER TO APOLOGIZE FOR WINNING! Had the battle gone the other way, the other side wouldn't be apologizing or "making up," would it? Through the lens of time, we can judge tactics as being harsh or actions to have been unjust, but that is apply anachronistic standards. The result is what it is.

Why would ANYONE hesitate to support Israel, a democratic, independent country who is an ally?

You'd be surprised by some on the left who you would otherwise think are sane. But they are not when it comes to the Israel. It disgusts me. And I'm vocal in my disgust, including with my own boss.

re: #200 rightymouse

No they would not. There was never any discussion about 'deserving' anything.

The Declaration of Independence drafted by Thomas Jefferson declared:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."

your move

re: #207 buzzdroid

I'm with you, and its not just the media. The report about the anti-Israel demo in London and the meagre police presence there was shameful as well.
And our politicians are retreating fast, into the warm arms of France, in condemning Israel, what a change to yesterday ...

re: #221 pre-Boomer Marine brat

hmmm (seriously) ... and what if, one day, he utterly loses it for a moment? Throws a screaming frothy hissy-fit.

/buyer's remorse will be a bitch

I predict a marital-separation for the Obama's, and or a nervous breakdown for the ONE> He's an introvert who has only-child-syndrome and is ultra-sensitive to criticism and surrounds himself with obnoxious bombastic machiavellian "A" types who are just going to kill each other after a while.

re: #147 Killgore Trout

Hamas has launched over 3,000 rockets and mortars this year. CAIR never had anything to say about that.

They would have to admit they paid for (at least some of) them?

re: #220 MandyManners

I wonder if that asshole knows about Hamas refusing to let the wounded be carried to Egypt.

re: #213 yma o hyd

Her views are so radically anti Israel that with her being a Jew only a psychological disorder could be an excuse.

re: #202 doriangrey

The answer is... Both ways... Plots take time to hatch, they require, people and materials, both which have to be smuggled in. What the Texas authorities need to do is squeeze ole Momo until he tells them where he is stockpiling his shit and who he's getting it from down in Mexico.

The Texas authorities are either insanely incompetent for releasing any information regarding his arrest, or have already obtained that information. I'll leave speculating on which they are to lizards better acquainted with the Texas law enforcement community.

If this were here in InSane Diego Ca. my money would be on incompetent and corrupt.

if the Texas Rangers are in any way involved they probably have a tight case

re: #217 doriangrey

? So does that mean it's a good place to eat? Or so bad you hope it gets blown up?

Great place to get juicy, utterly-unhealthy, sinful, chili-dogs. Tiny litle mom-and-pop place. I think it's called "The Dog House", or something like that.

re: #212 Cathypop

I get the feeling that he woke up this morning thinking "Why did I want this job" "Who talked me into this" "I am so screwed"

.. followed by 'where are my cigarettes?'

re: #235 Opinionated

re: #213 yma o hyd

Her views are so radically anti Israel that with her being a Jew only a psychological disorder could be an excuse.

Extreme masochism.

re: #230 rightymouse

This is so beyond my ability to comprehend. The provocateurs in EVERY instance were the Arab nations--which weren't really countries, either. at the time.

re: #229 albusteve

I'm familiar with the situation...down in the SW there is a small sleepy town called Palomas, across from Columbus...maybe a few thousand people at most...they found twelve bodies laying in the mainstreet one morning...proportion is a very machismo thing... my ex was going to visit Mexacali yesterday and I vehemantly talked her out of it...and finally I thought I read recently where the feds stated there is NO Mexican town safe for travel anywhere on the border...I think El Paso/Juarez is by far the worst tho

Son of a Bitch! I was there in Palomas back in March!
Ay yi yi yi...!

re: #201 Killian Bundy

Obama bristles as the bubble closes in

Ooh, the pressure is already starting to get to him and he hasn't even been sworn in yet!

Can't they just let him eat his waffle?!?

:^/

re: #233 DistantThunder

I predict a marital-separation for the Obama's, and or a nervous breakdown for the ONE> He's an introvert who has only-child-syndrome and is ultra-sensitive to criticism and surrounds himself with obnoxious bombastic machiavellian "A" types who are just going to kill each other after a while.

I've also noticed a kind of parallel to Macbeth and his lovely bride.

re: #242 Spiny Norman

Can't they just let him eat his waffle?!?

:^/

Biden says Obama has a "spine of steel." Think he meant spaghetti.

re: #218 goddessoftheclassroom

"ISRAEL WON"

Beg pardon, but the Palis have NEVER had their teeth kicked out by Israel, like the Jordanians and Egyptians have.

THAT is the difference.

Indict CAIR and have done with it. De-legitimize them completely, they support and finance terror. They're traitors to the ideals that the West stands for.

re: #241 Macker

Son of a Bitch! I was there in Palomas back in March!
Ay yi yi yi...!

dont go there anymore...just wear the T shirt instead

re: #185 Desert Dog

Some of have noticed. But then, I'm in TX too, so maybe I'm just closer to it.

re: #245 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Beg pardon, but the Palis have NEVER had their teeth kicked out by Israel, like the Jordanians and Egyptians have.

THAT is the difference.

The Israeli's have always been too compassionate.

Constantly looking for a way to live side-by-side.

It's about time they realized that is not what the Pali's want.

re: #245 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Beg pardon, but the Palis have NEVER had their teeth kicked out by Israel, like the Jordanians and Egyptians have.

THAT is the difference.

True. I was referring to the establishment of the country and its defense of its borders. Israel needs to settle this point once and for all.

re: #245 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Beg pardon, but the Palis have NEVER had their teeth kicked out by Israel, like the Jordanians and Egyptians have.

THAT is the difference.

Let's us hope that the Pali terrorists get their turn to have their teeth kicked out by the Israelis.

re: #231 swamprat

your move

People from the West, with the history and heritage of this type of thought, embrace this as a natural law. That God gave people freedoms governments cannot take away. However, in the rest of the world, they use other guides to shape their vision of the world. The Koran does not mention freedoms much and certainly not the natural rights listed in the Dec. of Ind. or our Constitution...that is the book these Hamas asswads are looking at. You know, the one that says women are property, kill the infidels, chop off heads, marry a 9 year old, etc, etc