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Plan 9 Open Thread

Video | Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:58:19 pm PST

We’ve started many open threads with quotes from it, so here’s the complete version of Ed Wood’s freaky masterpiece “Plan 9 from Outer Space” in all its below-zero-budget glory. Never gets old. One of the funniest inadvertently funny films ever made.

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1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 12:59:21pm

Mommie Dearest was funny too.

2 Desert Dog  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:00:43pm

1 hour 18 minutes! Eeeh.....I will have to save this for later. I have never seen this before.

3 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:00:55pm

Nice hair.

4 Desert Dog  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:01:05pm

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mommie Dearest was funny too.

Did you get out your hanger when you watch it still?

5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:03:17pm
6 yochanan  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:03:25pm

[Link: www.funnychill.com...]
GIVE ME A BEER

7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:03:37pm

re: #3 Sharmuta

Shar? Did you get my earlier howdy?

8 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:04:19pm

re: #6 yochanan

[Link: www.funnychill.com...]
GIVE ME A BEER

Gimme' a fifth of vodka.

9 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:04:20pm

"Wardrobe- Dick Chaney". Now that's funny.

10 psyop  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:04:47pm

effing Patriots....

I hope they don't make the postseason.

(apologies to all New England fans... It's just how I feel)

11 ratherdashing  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:05:07pm

re: #2 Desert Dog

1 hour 18 minutes! Eeeh.....I will have to save this for later. I have never seen this before.

... or just watch the trailer.

12 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:05:11pm

What happened to Plans 1 through 8?

13 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:05:18pm

re: #7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Huh?

14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:05:49pm

re: #13 Sharmuta

Nice Iron Fist impression.

15 mikalm  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:05:58pm

Anyone ever see Manos - The Hands of Fate? It's so bad, it makes Plan 9 look like Citizen Kane. The MST3K guys gave it their treatment, and you can see it in ten segments right here.

16 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:06:00pm

re: #3 Sharmuta

Nice hair.

Reminds me of the meringue topping on a coconut pie.

17 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:06:21pm

re: #3 Sharmuta

Nice hair.

LOL!
I was thinking the same thing - well, sort of - I thought his hair looks - strange.

18 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:07:08pm

I'm watching REDRUM.

19 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:07:28pm

Starring "Dudley Manlove".

Why haven't I ever heard of that actor before now? With a name like that . . .

20 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:07:39pm

Down in front!

21 Jimmah  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:07:43pm

This guy has issues with basic stuff like moving the camera properly. And why is the narrator wearing a bow tie? Is that the proper attire of a prophet of doom? I'm not sure I'm going to make it to the end of this.

22 sngnsgt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:07:51pm

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well I, er, er, er, umm, umm, umm, I kinda' ah, ah, ah, ya know, ya, know, ya know

23 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:07:54pm

"Greetings, my friends", I find his hair "unknown, mysterious and unexplainable".

24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:08:51pm

Don't y'all be slapping at Criswell.

25 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:09:04pm

re: #8 MandyManners

Gimme' a fifth of vodka.

I'd like a Southern Comfort Old Fashioned sweet please - whose the bartender around here?

26 Charles  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:09:05pm

Watch for the scene when the detective uses the barrel of his gun to push back his hat. I believe he also scratches his neck with it.

27 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:09:42pm

re: #19 reine.de.tout

Starring "Dudley Manlove".

Why haven't I ever heard of that actor before now? With a name like that . . .

You know- I was kind of thinking that myself. I restrained myself and went with Dick Chaney instead.

28 Jimmah  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:09:43pm

Check some of the actors names - "Vampira"? "Dudley Manlove"?

29 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:11:24pm

re: #26 Charles

Watch for the scene when the detective uses the barrel of his gun to push back his hat. I believe he also scratches his neck with it.

I am sure there is a Plexico or sweatpants joke in there somewhere---

30 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:12:05pm

There is no door into the plane's cockpit from the passenger section. It's just a curtain. The days before terrorism . . .

31 Charles  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:12:08pm

Tor Johnson was a professional wrestler. Vampira was a TV horror show host with a freakishly tiny waist.

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:12:12pm

Jeffery Jones did a fantastic job as Criswell in the movie "Ed Wood".

33 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:12:12pm

What an incredible UFO.

34 Killian Bundy  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:12:12pm

re: #2 Desert Dog

1 hour 18 minutes! Eeeh.....I will have to save this for later. I have never seen this before.

/consider yourself 78 minutes luckier

35 Desert Dog  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:12:37pm

re: #6 yochanan

[Link: www.funnychill.com...]
GIVE ME A BEER

My kinda eye chart from the same site.

Good thing my vision is still really good!

36 SWPaul  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:12:56pm

re: #26 Charles

I watched a cop one time use his gun to point at people. Very casually, but it was terrifying to watch.

37 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:13:22pm

"The sky to which he had once looked, had become nothing more than a covering for her dead body".

gah.

This is awful.

38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:14:00pm

re: #37 reine.de.tout

It gets (not) better.

Fabulously awful.

39 VegasRick  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:14:04pm

re: #10 psyop

effing Patriots....

I hope they don't make the postseason.

(apologies to all New England fans... It's just how I feel)

You just became a Fins Fan, like me!

40 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:14:13pm

"I don't like hearing noises- especially when there isn't supposed to be any."

LMAO!

41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:14:46pm

I'm afraid for my Cowboys today.

42 lesbianrainforest  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:15:06pm

re: #28 Jimmah


Vampira recently died.....

I find this movie impossible to watch. Sorry. The only thing Ed Wood ever did worthwhile was to inspire the movie bearing his name.

43 avanti  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:16:38pm

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I tried to tell President Elect Obama that the job was going to be really hard.

Did he listen? Nooooo.

Every President hates the bubble, they need to learn how to carve out a private moment now and then. For Clinton, it was his BJ and the occasional Big Mac. Back in Kennedy's day, both the press and the Secret Service kept quite about his private moments with more then a few women. For Obama, he's worried about his kids so far.

44 Killian Bundy  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:17:00pm

You'd be better off just watching Ed Wood.

/Plan Nine without the pain

45 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:17:01pm

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

46 SWPaul  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:17:02pm

re: #18 MandyManners

Are you actually watching someone getting murdered? Or The Shining?

47 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:18:07pm

OK, the dead wife must be being played by actress "Vampira".

48 Charles  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:18:23pm

re: #37 reine.de.tout

"The sky to which he had once looked, had become nothing more than a covering for her dead body".

gah.

This is awful.

I think that's the only scene in which Bela Lugosi actually appears. Wood used old footage, because Lugosi had already died when the rest of the movie was made. In the rest of the movie a stand-in plays the Lugosi part, holding a cape up to his face.

49 Desert Dog  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:18:46pm

I am preparing to watch my two fav team limp into the playoffs (maybe)....The Direct TV is loaded.....Why, why, why do I cheer for the Arizona Cardinals and the Denver Broncos? I am a glutton for punishment? Was a bad in a past life? I am paying for the sins of my Father?

Oh well, I have the box of tissues for the tears, a 12 pack of Sam Adams on ice, my mandatory John Elway Jersey and my new Christmas present of a Arizona Cardinal hat atop my big fat head.....see you all in a few hours

50 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:18:46pm

Did 'Mystery Science Theatre 3000' ever do this movie?

51 mean Gene  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:19:12pm

My favorite part is the masterful use of the words "there, their and they're,'' all in one bit of dialog.

52 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:19:32pm

Check this out:

A suicide bomber hits a crowd in Baghdad- a crowd protesting Israel's war effort against Hamas!
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

53 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:19:38pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

"I don't like hearing noises- especially when there isn't supposed to be any."

LMAO!

Notice the home where the old man lived with his wife, apparently forever. There's a brand new tree in the front yard, being held up with stake.

54 lesbianrainforest  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:20:15pm

re: #48 Charles

Yea. Wood killed him off by showing footage of him walking from his house and then all you hear is a car crash. Hilarious.

55 Macker  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:20:20pm
56 mean Gene  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:20:36pm

re: #52 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Check this out:

A suicide bomber hits a crowd in Baghdad- a crowd protesting Israel's war effort against Hamas!
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Yeah, I was wondering what motivated him.
Was he FOR the Israeli's?
Was he just looking for a crowd, any crowd?
Was he mentally disabled?

57 Charles  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:20:48pm

"I've never seen you in this mood before."

"I guess that's because I've never been in this mood before."

(I think several of the actors were drunk during filming.)

58 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:21:27pm

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Jeffery Jones did a fantastic job as Criswell in the movie "Ed Wood".

Ed Wood is a great film. Martin Landau was amazing!

59 gclaghorn  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:21:27pm

Hey, Charles, this reminds me:

Did you know the next generation of Linux, designed for networking, is supposed to be named "Plan 9"? Apparently the creators of Linux have an unhealthy obsession with that movie.

60 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:21:50pm

Reposted tribute to Vampira (Maila Nurmi) with a few tidbits about the movie:

61 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:23:32pm

re: #43 avanti

Every President hates the bubble, they need to learn how to carve out a private moment now and then. For Clinton, it was his BJ and the occasional Big Mac. Back in Kennedy's day, both the press and the Secret Service kept quite about his private moments with more then a few women. For Obama, he's worried about his kids so far.

“It’s hard for people who like to do outdoors things"

Didn't stop Reagan from chopping wood or riding horses.

62 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:23:56pm

re: #46 SWPaul

Are you actually watching someone getting murdered? Or The Shining?

Yes.

63 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:23:59pm

re: #55 Macker

THE LIONS ARE 0-16!


Thank God the Pack won - we didn't need to be the one and only one.

64 buzzdroid  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:24:07pm

plan 9?

damn fine operating system..

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

lead engineer, Rob Pike, now works for google.
well worth reading about it. its uber geeky , but damn interesting to read about.

65 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:24:47pm

That's quite the abrupt sound wave. Amazing.

66 SWPaul  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:25:42pm

re: #50 Sharmuta

Don't think so. I don't remember watching this one done by them.

67 SWPaul  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:26:18pm

re: #62 MandyManners

Touche.

68 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:26:22pm

re: #54 lesbianrainforest

Yea. Wood killed him off by showing footage of him walking from his house and then all you hear is a car crash. Hilarious.

The crash comes just as the narrator says, he left the home, "...never to return again". . . CRASH!.

69 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:26:25pm

re: #52 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Check this out:

A suicide bomber hits a crowd in Baghdad- a crowd protesting Israel's war effort against Hamas!
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Now, that there is irony.

70 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:26:37pm

re: #57 Charles

This is DISPROPORTIONATE usage of comedy to influence Lizards !

/word of the moment !

71 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:27:23pm

"He's been murdered and somebody is responsible'

BWAHAHA.

72 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:27:56pm

re: #67 SWPaul

Touche.

I do feel for his little girls.

73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:28:09pm

re: #58 SurferDoc

Dig.

74 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:28:15pm

re: #49 Desert Dog

I am preparing to watch my two fav team limp into the playoffs (maybe)....The Direct TV is loaded.....Why, why, why do I cheer for the Arizona Cardinals and the Denver Broncos? I am a glutton for punishment? Was a bad in a past life? I am paying for the sins of my Father?

Oh well, I have the box of tissues for the tears, a 12 pack of Sam Adams on ice, my mandatory John Elway Jersey and my new Christmas present of a Arizona Cardinal hat atop my big fat head.....see you all in a few hours

Well, I'll be here in SAN DIEGO in front of my TV with my own 6 pack of Sam Adams watching the Denver Broncos get their asses kicked.... So, ummm want to tell me about gluttony? lol...lol...lol...

75 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:28:16pm

That's some mighty fine gun safety, there.

76 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:28:19pm

Dig the shower curtain in the cockpit.

77 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:28:39pm

re: #65 Sharmuta

That's quite the abrupt sound wave. Amazing.

Amazing abrubt.

78 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:29:09pm

Time after time I watch this movie and I leech out another line .. another expression .. that just makes it such a classic .. I LOVE IT !

79 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:29:09pm

re: #76 Salem

Dig the shower curtain in the cockpit.

I have a buck says it covered a broom closet.

80 buzzdroid  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:29:55pm

re: #69 MandyManners

Now, that there is irony.

obviously a zionist nazi plant stooge of mossad and cia...

81 So?  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:31:18pm

Thanks for posting the movie, will watch it later tonight.

I also love "Ed Wood" with Johnny Depp. It was also quite hilarious and Depp was superb.

82 psyop  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:31:51pm

re: #39 VegasRick

Yes.... Yes I did.

Never really had anything against the Dolphins, but this is the first time I will actively be rooting FOR them.

83 debutaunt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:31:52pm

One of the joys of being a teenager was getting some friends together and watching a terrible movie at a theater with very few patrons.

84 Macker  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:31:56pm

re: #63 summergurl

Thank God the Pack won - we didn't need to be the one and only one.

Let the purges begin.

85 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:32:01pm

Somewhere between the UFO bathplugs and the airplane cockpit that lurches so badly with actors that dont know when to lurch .. to the dialog .. its worth every cent I spend on seeing it again and again.

86 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:32:01pm

re: #50 Sharmuta

Did 'Mystery Science Theatre 3000' ever do this movie?

No but Mike from MST3k did an audio commentary on the DVD release of Plan 9 from Outer Space.

87 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:32:16pm

re: #80 buzzdroid

obviously a zionist nazi plant stooge of mossad and cia...

I just bruised my brain.

88 Jimmah  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:32:28pm

re: #75 Sharmuta

That's some mighty fine gun safety, there.

That policeman did everything but pick his nose with that gun.

89 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:32:42pm

re: #50 Sharmuta

Did 'Mystery Science Theatre 3000' ever do this movie?

I think their excuse for not doing it was that the crazy narration made the riffing redundant.

90 psyop  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:32:58pm

re: #50 Sharmuta

Did 'Mystery Science Theatre 3000' ever do this movie?


I hope so, I love those robots (and their human, too).

91 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:33:04pm

re: #20 Noam Sayin'

How's the mouse?

92 itellu3times  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:33:23pm

re: #55 Macker

THE LIONS ARE 0-16!

Is the UN Security Council going to *do* something about it, or just talk?

93 Jimmah  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:34:15pm

"...in charge of saucer field operations..."

94 psyop  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:34:37pm

re: #92 itellu3times

Is the UN Security Council going to *do* something about it, or just talk?

Oh, no, they will do more than talk....

They will pass..... RESOLUTIONS!

95 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:34:43pm

Wow! That rocket barrage made our troops look worse than Imperial Storm Troopers, and that takes some doing.

96 Empire1  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:34:52pm

re: #57 Charles

(I think several of the actors were drunk during filming.)(I think several of the actors were drunk during filming.)

Probably the only way they could stand to do the film! I saw it years ago and refuse to play the masochist by watching it again.

97 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:34:57pm

re: #83 debutaunt

One of the joys of being a teenager was getting some friends together and watching a terrible movie at a theater with very few patrons.

Remember when I was about 13 going to see the Planet of the Apes, all of 'em at a theatre running an Ape-a-thon...

98 SWPaul  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:35:19pm

Just skipping around, this looks effing golden btw. I hit upon a scene in a cemetery where a cop gets killed, then an officer rambling about UFO's while some private with a brick/radio in his hand rambles about training missions.

99 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:36:36pm

"I'm muzzled by Army brass!"

100 Jimmah  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:37:23pm

"They attacked a town - a small town admittedly, but a town full of people - people who died" LOL It was worth watching for that.

101 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:37:42pm

re: #94 psyop

Oh, no, they will do more than talk....

They will pass..... RESOLUTIONS!

Oh, no! Don't say that they're going to resolve again!

/the only resolution whose number I know is 1441, the one that called for force if Sadaam Hussein didn't comply with the terms of the cease fire and all the other resolutions, and if the other members of the SC had any idea that President Bush who actually insist on enforcing it, they never would have have voted for it.

102 gclaghorn  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:38:05pm

I'll watch this later. Flipped through it, and it looks pretty funny.

103 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:38:58pm

re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nice Iron Fist impression.

*cough-cough* Say what now? *ahem*

104 sngnsgt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:39:51pm

Hey Charles, Dan is still Rather upset:

CBS newsman's $70m lawsuit likely to deal Bush legacy a new blow

As George W Bush prepares to leave the White House, at least one unpleasant episode from his unpopular presidency is threatening to follow him into retirement.

A $70m lawsuit filed by Dan Rather, the veteran former newsreader for CBS Evening News, against his old network is reopening the debate over alleged favourable treatment that Bush received when he served in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam war. Bush had hoped that this controversy had been dealt with once and for all during the 2004 election.

www.guardian.co.uk

105 invictus1  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:40:15pm

re: #94 psyop

Oh, no, they will do more than talk....

They will pass..... RESOLUTIONS!

You're forgetting the strongly worded letters!

106 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:40:37pm

REDRUM.

107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:41:29pm

re: #103 Slumbering Behemoth

*cough-cough* Say what now? *ahem*

Oh my goodness. Soon as I hit "post" realized it was you, not Iron Fist. Thought if I stayed quiet....

Shuffles over to the sideline...trying to avoid the coaches stare....

108 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:42:03pm

re: #98 SWPaul

Just skipping around, this looks effing golden btw. I hit upon a scene in a cemetery where a cop gets killed, then an officer rambling about UFO's while some private with a brick/radio in his hand rambles about training missions.

And those two looked like they were standing in front of a wall, where they were supposed to be outdoors watching the action LOL.
This is too funny.

109 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:42:27pm

re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, we do look a lot alike.

110 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:42:44pm

re: #99 Salem

"I'm muzzled by Army brass!"

the upper echelons! That comes a little later . . .

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:42:47pm

re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth

heh.

112 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:43:14pm

This movie started getting a cult following from it's frequent broadcast in the Late Late Show slot back in the sixties and seventies. Then it got named Worst Movie of All Time.

113 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:44:04pm

re: #104 sngnsgt

Hey Charles, Dan is still Rather upset:

CBS newsman's $70m lawsuit likely to deal Bush legacy a new blow

www.guardian.co.uk

Why doesnt Charles just admit he invented fonts just to confuddle Rather?

114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:45:00pm

re: #112 Salem

I bet every time Ed Wood watched this he was simply amazed with how well it came out.

115 psyop  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:45:10pm

re: #101 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, no! Don't say that they're going to resolve again!

/the only resolution whose number I know is 1441, the one that called for force if Sadaam Hussein didn't comply with the terms of the cease fire and all the other resolutions, and if the other members of the SC had any idea that President Bush who actually insist on enforcing it, they never would have have voted for it.

Fortunately for them, they will have a castrated, "willing to talk", "Can't I just finish my waffles?" POTUS to push around for the next 4 years.

116 Sandman_In_OC  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:45:22pm

Plan K-9 From Outer Space!

... featured in the end credits of the just released "Beethoven's Big Break" (which incidentally is getting some great reviews)

117 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:46:26pm

"That's a Nine O'clock town". lol

118 SWPaul  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:47:19pm

re: #113 Buster Bunny

Why doesn't Rather just admit he lied? Not like his career will suffer any further? Once you hit the bottom of the well, can't go much further down.

119 sngnsgt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:47:22pm

re: #113 Buster Bunny

Why doesnt Charles just admit he invented fonts just to confuddle Rather?

Yep, all part of a Rovian plot to steal the White House again.

120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:48:12pm

re: #118 SWPaul

Oh, you can always dig.

121 jaunte  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:48:22pm

The alien leader's battleaxe-on-shield tunic is quite alien.

122 SWPaul  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:49:20pm

re: #115 psyop

Obama's going to hate it when foreign leaders start closing in on his bubble.

123 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:50:10pm

A woman named Kelli Roman had her privileges on Facebook taken away. This is because she had posted photographs of herself breastfeeding her child.

Kelli even started a group on Facebook called “Hey Facebook, Breastfeeding is Not Obscene.”

The group has become very popular and now has over sixty four thousand members. This is quite impressive. Her Facebook group is even going to have a virtual protest. The protest will involve people posting photographs of women, animals, or art that involve nursing. They are also going to change their online status to “Hey Facebook, breastfeeding is not obscene!”

SNIP

124 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:50:21pm

Worst bedroom attack ever.

125 Last Mohican  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:50:39pm

Well now this is a little strange...

Today's push poll on CNN's home page isn't anti-Israel, for a change. It asks:

Where do you stand on Israel's response to rocket attacks on its territory?


The possible responses are "justified" and "condemnable."

So far, "justified" is winning with 61%.

Usually, CNN's polls are more along the lines of "are you in favor of the worldwide peace, harmony, and happiness that will inevitably result if Obama is elected (yes or no)?"

126 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:50:52pm

Yesterday I spun off a trailer for a film entitled "9". This is the animated short that the movie is based on.

Later Lizards, got a garage that needs cleaning, and other stuffs that need doing.

127 sngnsgt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:51:16pm

re: #113 Buster Bunny

It was all part of a Reptilian plot to unseat Dan Rather.

128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:51:41pm

re: #124 Sharmuta

Now you sound like my wife!

/

129 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:53:19pm

re: #104 sngnsgt

Hey Charles, Dan is still Rather upset:

CBS newsman's $70m lawsuit likely to deal Bush legacy a new blow

www.guardian.co.uk

Bush should sue Rather for $70 million for harassment.

130 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:54:10pm

re: #119 sngnsgt

Yep, all part of a Rovian plot to steal the White House again.

If you dive back into the conspiratorial theory, then the fonts were always embedded in Microsoft's program for Word version X. Hence the reality is (Ratheresque) that Charles is the majority owner of Microsoft and was able to use the flickering screen to hypnotise every Word user and travel back in time to replicate a font that would been seen to be commonplace in the future.

Charles owns Microsoft, invented kerning and needs to personally embarass Dan Rather so he can hang his head over the mantelpiece one he is TRULY stuffed !

131 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:54:15pm

re: #105 invictus1

You're forgetting the strongly worded letters!

Not I pray the Dread Demarche?

132 SWPaul  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:54:15pm

re: #123 MandyManners

"Rules don't apply to me! Change to conform to my views! My rights are being trampled on! I don't understand that a website I voluntarily join has rules and regulations I have to adhere to! I even signed the form that outlined why I've been banned from Facebook! I'm really dumb!"

133 Charles  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:54:55pm

Speaking of the Dan Rather story, there's something funny going on at Reddit.com, in this thread ...

[Link: www.reddit.com...]

Earlier, there was a discussion about LGF and our debunking of the Rather documents. Now it's gone. Those comments, which included a link to our post from 2004, are deleted.

134 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:55:11pm

re: #114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I bet every time Ed Wood watched this he was simply amazed with how well it came out.

He knew it was his creative zenith, for sure. Sadly, he died before he could enjoy his delayed celebrity.

135 notutopia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:55:54pm

I viewed this yesterday when Charles posted it.
It is sooo humorous, and now that we've had at least 1/4th of the scripts spoonfed to us on postings, I cracked up laughing when I'd recognize the lines from the threads. Popping popcorn, I think I'll watch it again!

136 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:56:11pm

re: #115 psyop

Fortunately for them, they will have a castrated, "willing to talk", "Can't I just finish my waffles?" POTUS to push around for the next 4 years.

I wouldn't bet on that. Obama is a old fashioned Chicago, Al "scareface" Capone, Don Vito Corleone gangster. He may be a stealth Muslim and a Marxist but make no mistake about it, he is a gangster.

137 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:57:27pm

re: #133 Charles

Change !

138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:57:40pm

re: #134 Salem

Until he realized he was the "William Hung" of directors. Then, he would've felt stupid.

139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:58:19pm

Hope Wyatt isn't here.

DIE EAGLES, DIE!

140 sngnsgt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:58:32pm

re: #130 Buster Bunny

Dan Rather's still hypnotized and his eyes are still spinning counterclockwise.

141 gclaghorn  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:58:43pm

re: #133 Charles

Speaking of the Dan Rather story, there's something funny going on at Reddit.com, in this thread ...

[Link: www.reddit.com...]

Earlier, there was a discussion about LGF and our debunking of the Rather documents. Now it's gone. Those comments, which included a link to our post from 2004, are deleted.

Down the memory hole.

142 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:58:56pm

re: #104 sngnsgt

Hey Charles, Dan is still Rather upset:

CBS newsman's $70m lawsuit likely to deal Bush legacy a new blow

www.guardian.co.uk

Dan will either doing supermarket openings or mowing lawns before he is through.

143 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:59:25pm

"It's tough to find something when you don't know what you're looking for."

144 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 1:59:58pm

re: #142 SurferDoc

Dan will either doing supermarket openings or mowing lawns before he is through.

Forrest Gump mowed the football field.

145 yochanan  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:00:33pm
146 Last Mohican  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:00:51pm

re: #133 Charles


Earlier, there was a discussion about LGF and our debunking of the Rather documents. Now it's gone. Those comments, which included a link to our post from 2004, are deleted.

I wish I could say I was shocked.

147 garycooper  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:01:40pm

Pardon me if this has already been noted, as I haven't had time to read the whole thread, but the movie "Ed Wood" does a fantastic job of telling the life-story of this movie's maker, including a hilarious section on the making of "Plan 9." One of Depp's greatest roles, and yes, I know he's a baguette-sucking libtard. ;)

I also happened to see this comic this morning, and it sure reminded me of a certain conflict currently in the news: [Link: picayune.uclick.com...]

148 notutopia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:01:55pm

Charles, is there anyway you would post the url for this movie. I want to watch it in full screen and the function won't work on the link above.

149 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:02:11pm

IT because there is no OT in an Open T.

Got this forwarded to me about the coming Australian Great Barrier Reef that seems to be a potential variant of the Chinese Great Wall for restricting Internet access. Note that they are doing it "for the children" but the implications are serious. I am no Libertarian but giving the government the power to enforce this level of prior restraint on everyone seems dangerous. Given that the incoming crew already are talking about the "Fairness Doctrine" in America we have reason to worry.

150 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:03:02pm

re: #145 yochanan

[Link: www.a-human-right.com...]

Yochanan .. why would anyone invent a yellow star like that? The correct germanic spelling is Jude not Jood. Why would anyone create a star like that?

151 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:04:01pm

re: #138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Until he realized he was the "William Hung" of directors. Then, he would've felt stupid.

There's no such thing as bad publicity!

152 psyop  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:04:20pm

re: #122 SWPaul

Obama's going to hate it when foreign leaders start closing in on his bubble.

Poor Obama....

He just realized that the media isn't always going to suck his......

crap, never mind. Just a little rant there....

153 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:05:55pm

re: #148 notutopia

Charles, is there anyway you would post the url for this movie. I want to watch it in full screen and the function won't work on the link above.


Will this help?
PLAN 9

154 Charles  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:06:10pm

re: #148 notutopia

Charles, is there anyway you would post the url for this movie. I want to watch it in full screen and the function won't work on the link above.

If you reload the page, full screen mode will work now...

155 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:06:13pm

re: #144 MandyManners

Forrest Gump mowed the football field.

Forrest had ideals and commitment. Dan has ego.

156 sngnsgt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:07:41pm

re: #142 SurferDoc

Dan will either doing supermarket openings or mowing lawns before he is through.

So much for that Dan Rather memorial statue. Dan Rather will only be a statue when Rigor mortis sets in.

157 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:09:04pm

I hope it's not Cliché but - here's one of my favorite cult classic movies:

158 rawmuse  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:09:18pm

Stalin voted third greatest Russian.

159 yochanan  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:09:59pm
160 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:10:36pm

"...There are cases of people being knocked to the ground by flying saucer exhaust"

I hate when that happens!

161 yochanan  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:11:11pm

re: #150 Buster Bunny

IT WAS THE STAR THEY USED IN HOLLAND NOT GERMANY
IN FRANCE THEY USED FRENCH

162 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:11:17pm

re: #155 SurferDoc

Forrest had ideals and commitment. Dan has ego.

And, Gump was a gazillionaire.

163 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:11:59pm

re: #161 yochanan

IT WAS THE STAR THEY USED IN HOLLAND NOT GERMANY
IN FRANCE THEY USED FRENCH

WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

164 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:13:11pm

re: #161 yochanan

IT WAS THE STAR THEY USED IN HOLLAND NOT GERMANY
IN FRANCE THEY USED FRENCH

Well .. um .. I stand totally corrected.

/insert bright red HEEL motif here

165 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:13:17pm

Those alien costumes look like rejects from the Emerald City set.

166 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:13:19pm

re: #158 rawmuse

Stalin voted third greatest Russian.

Well, Stolypin got second.

167 yochanan  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:14:46pm

re: #163 MandyManners

forgot to take it off caps lock but i am not in a jolly mood i guess i am a little worried. given my son is in a war zone

168 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:14:46pm

I think Lynch's red room was inspired by the alien base interior.

169 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:14:48pm

re: #166 MandyManners

Well, Stolypin got second.

Is Stolychnaya first? He invented the vodka !

170 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:16:04pm

That might be some of the worst staging I've ever seen- and I've seen elementary school productions.

171 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:16:22pm

re: #167 yochanan

forgot to take it off caps lock but i am not in a jolly mood i guess i am a little worried. given my son is in a war zone

That would set me on edge.

172 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:16:38pm

re: #169 Buster Bunny

Is Stolychnaya first? He invented the vodka !

Nevsky.

173 Dianna  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:16:41pm

re: #158 rawmuse

Stalin voted third greatest Russian.

That's a fascinating result. Nevsky is first, and Stolypin second.

What the Russians make of their history is something of a mystery. I've run across a number of coherent views, but none that would accommodate this trio in this order.

174 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:17:23pm

re: #167 yochanan

forgot to take it off caps lock but i am not in a jolly mood i guess i am a little worried. given my son is in a war zone

Yochanan .. take it easy, At this stage Israel is defining the strategic moves and making headway into getting this all resolved as quickly as possible. I would be more on the defensive if there was a buildup along the northern border or a joint effort.

Relax, Gaza with Hamas earned this. And they are getting their dues.

175 Charles  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:19:13pm

Full screen now works in videos embedded in comments too...

176 Dianna  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:20:48pm

re: #175 Charles

Full screen now works in videos embedded in comments too...

You're spoiling us, you know.

177 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:20:59pm

I'll bet Markos doesn't have movie-days!

178 notutopia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:21:29pm

re: #175 Charles

Thank you Charles! Much easier on these old eyes!

179 Macker  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:22:11pm

re: #177 Salem

I'll bet Markos doesn't have movie-days!

Kos is probably stomping his feet and having a tantrum over Charles' improvements!

180 gclaghorn  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:24:21pm

re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

DIE EAGLES, DIE!

Yeah, how's that working out for you? :-)

181 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:24:23pm

re: #177 Salem

I'll bet Markos doesn't have movie-days!

See Spot Run hasn't been made into a movie.

182 Dianna  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:24:33pm

re: #179 Macker

Kos is probably stomping his feet and having a tantrum over Charles' improvements!

Is he that concerned? I've always found the Kos site hard to navigate, and the color scheme gives me a headache.

183 rawmuse  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:24:58pm

I tried watching some of it. I used to like movies like this, but not when I was sober, which is all the time now.

184 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:25:02pm

re: #177 Salem

I'll bet Markos doesn't have movie-days!


Marcos doesn't need scary movies, he is surrounded by moonbats. ;)

185 gclaghorn  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:25:06pm

re: #182 Dianna

Is he that concerned? I've always found the Kos site hard to navigate, and the color scheme gives me a headache.

It's like Halloween gone horribly wrong every time I go over there.

186 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:25:18pm

re: #158 rawmuse

Where's Brosnan?

187 Dianna  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:26:12pm

re: #186 MandyManners

Where's Brosnan?

Do you mean Ivan Grozny?

188 notutopia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:26:16pm

re: #157 FrogMarch

Not cliche'. Macabre. What movie is this?

189 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:26:26pm

re: #182 Dianna

Is he that concerned? I've always found the Kos site hard to navigate, and the color scheme gives me a headache.

That's a much more polite description of the color scheme than I would have gone with.

190 rawmuse  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:26:48pm

re: #186 MandyManners

Where's Brosnan?

I retired Brosnan. This being the beginning of a new era and all.

191 sngnsgt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:27:16pm

Dan Rathers lawsuit against See-BS:

Dan Rather v CBS-Viacom Criminal Complaint

192 Dianna  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:27:27pm

re: #189 Sharmuta

That's a much more polite description of the color scheme than I would have gone with.

Well...yes. But we're watching Plan 9, which means some of us are laughing so hard we're on the verge of getting sick already.

193 notutopia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:28:14pm

re: #188 notutopia

Not cliche'. Macabre. What movie is this?


Never mind...Harold and Maude!

194 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:28:23pm

re: #191 sngnsgt

Dan Rathers lawsuit against See-BS:

Dan Rather v CBS-Viacom Criminal Complaint

That looks forged!

195 gclaghorn  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:28:51pm

re: #191 sngnsgt

Dan Rathers lawsuit against See-BS:

Dan Rather v CBS-Viacom Criminal Complaint

One of the complaints is that C-BS "seriously damaged his reputation." Please. He could've done that with or without CBS.

196 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:29:09pm

"Modern women."

"Yeah- they've been like that all through the ages."

LMAO!

197 Shug  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:29:16pm

0-16

198 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:30:26pm

re: #195 gclaghorn

One of the complaints is that C-BS "seriously damaged his reputation." Please. He could've done that with or without CBS.

Right. Because of CBS he went from "moonbat" to "barking moonbat".

199 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:31:08pm

re: #170 Sharmuta

That might be some of the worst staging I've ever seen- and I've seen elementary school productions.

Wood was famous for doing everything as quickly and cheaply as possible. Only William "One-Shot" Beaudine was close to him in that department. For instance, Wood solved his SFX problem for Plan 9 (model UFOs) with a visit to a local hobby shop

The Deadly Alien Flying Saucers From Plan 9

He just left off the two "jet engine" pods and spray-painted the whole thing silver, dome and all. (No idea if he put the little green guy in each one or not.)

cheers

eon

200 CapitalistTool  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:31:31pm

re: #177 Salem

I'll bet Markos doesn't have movie-days!

He's waiting for W to come to YouTube.

201 gclaghorn  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:31:34pm

re: #198 Bloodnok

Right. Because of CBS he went from "moonbat" to "barking moonbat".

Think about it. I have no doubt that, if he had been employed by another news outlet like NBC or ABC, that the same thing would have happened.

And the whole "What's the frequency" thing. WTF was up with that?

202 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:33:50pm

re: #201 gclaghorn

Think about it. I have no doubt that, if he had been employed by another news outlet like NBC or ABC, that the same thing would have happened.

And the whole "What's the frequency" thing. WTF was up with that?

And if it happened today all networks would close ranks and protect him.

203 kansas  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:34:02pm

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I tried to tell President Elect Obama that the job was going to be really hard.

Did he listen? Nooooo.

So the guy has done bupkis and is having trouble negotiating the press? Gonna be a long 4 years.

204 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:34:05pm

re: #188 notutopia

Not cliche'. Macabre. What movie is this?

It's a fun little movie (1971) about an odd couple consisting of a young rich boy and an older woman. They both go to funerals for fun. I highly reccomend it if you like quirky and odd films. The tree planting scene is one of my favoites. Also, the main character, Harold, enjoys a strange hobby. (You'll see.) It's different and funny and I especailly love the jag-hearse.
It's not heavy at all.

205 gclaghorn  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:34:23pm

bbl

206 jaunte  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:34:35pm

re: #199 eon

Looks like a few are still available:
[Link: cgi.ebay.com.my...]

207 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:34:36pm

re: #187 Dianna

Do you mean Ivan Grozny?

Prof. Kessler from Mars Attacks.

208 DoubleU  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:34:38pm

Why do I arrive late for the Plan 9 open threads? I watched this movie a few weeks ago, if you can make it through the first 20 minutes the rest isn't as bad.

209 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:34:54pm

re: #201 gclaghorn

Think about it. I have no doubt that, if he had been employed by another news outlet like NBC or ABC, that the same thing would have happened.

And the whole "What's the frequency" thing. WTF was up with that?

Yes, and who in the h**l was Kenneth?

/Kenny from South Park, maybe?

cheers

eon

210 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:34:58pm

re: #158 rawmuse

Stalin voted third greatest Russian.

Number 1 and number 2 are now in hiding.

211 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:35:02pm

re: #190 rawmuse

I retired Brosnan. This being the beginning of a new era and all.

Are you going all "changey" on us?

212 Dianna  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:35:11pm

re: #201 gclaghorn

Think about it. I have no doubt that, if he had been employed by another news outlet like NBC or ABC, that the same thing would have happened.

And the whole "What's the frequency" thing. WTF was up with that?

I can't exactly answer that, but someone else did: It all started with a mugging

213 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:36:14pm

Bride of The Monster is my favorite Ed Wood movie, even without the MST3K treatment - which is just a big ol' cherry on top of the sundae of awfulness that is that movie.

214 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:36:36pm

re: #191 sngnsgt

Dan Rathers lawsuit against See-BS:

Dan Rather v CBS-Viacom Criminal Complaint

"Criminal" complaint? It's a tort action.

215 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:37:08pm

How can anything so big hide for so long a time? lmao

216 DoubleU  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:37:13pm

re: #157 FrogMarch

Harold and Maude? I saw that a LONG time ago on T V, strange but good. Should watch it again now that I am a little older.

217 rawmuse  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:37:48pm

re: #211 MandyManners

Are you going all "changey" on us?

No, just bored.

218 jaunte  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:38:31pm

That saucer burns just like a hunk of styrene.

219 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:38:38pm

re: #212 Dianna

I can't exactly answer that, but someone else did: It all started with a mugging

I had never heard of the 1997 epilogue before. Thanks! (Frankly, I had always thought it was a Randi Rhodes incident with a more entertaining story)

220 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:39:46pm

re: #206 jaunte

Looks like a few are still available:
[Link: cgi.ebay.com.my...]

Unless you want the box, I wouldn't bother. Glencoe Models has re-released the kit several times, most recently this year, and you can still find it in the shops for about $10-$15.

If you scroll down to the bottom of the page I linked to, it shows the Glencoe boxlid. The main difference between the 1970's Lindberg re-release and the present-day Glencoe is that the Glencoe is moulded in silver plastic like the original 1950s Lindberg. The Seventies repop was moulded in green glow-in-the-dark plastic.

/Mine is painted silver, anyway.

cheers

eon

221 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:39:49pm

re: #213 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Bride of The Monster is my favorite Ed Wood movie, even without the MST3K treatment - which is just a big ol' cherry on top of the sundae of awfulness that is that movie.

They really bust on poor Bela. Great episode.

222 jaunte  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:41:08pm

re: #220 eon

I decided to keep mine on the internet. That way I'll always know where it is.

223 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:41:51pm

"...And now some of us laugh at OUTER SPACE! God help us in the future..."

THE END

224 Griffon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:42:34pm

Do do do doop, It's the Adams Family.

225 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:42:42pm

re: #221 Salem

They really bust on poor Bela. Great episode.

I love that the closing line of Bride of The Monster - "He tampered in God's domain" - became a running joke throughout the series: "He hampered God's Rogaine"; "He peppered God's lo mein", etc.

226 Dianna  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:43:12pm

re: #219 Bloodnok

I had never heard of the 1997 epilogue before. Thanks! (Frankly, I had always thought it was a Randi Rhodes incident with a more entertaining story)

For all I know, it was.

On the other hand, weird stuff happens, and no one notices unless it happens to a celebrity.

227 sngnsgt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:44:14pm

re: #214 MandyManners

Whatever it's as big of a joke as dear ol' Dan is.

228 avanti  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:46:44pm

This month in 1963, Studebaker ceased US production, before a 2 year move to Canada that ended it. It started as a wagon maker in 1852 and failed largely because of union contracts and strikes without a bailout.
I'm a collector of Studebakers and thought I'd share the video of the Studebaker that still holds the land speed records for a 4 passenger US production car.

229 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:47:09pm

re: #216 DoubleU

Harold and Maude? I saw that a LONG time ago on T V, strange but good. Should watch it again now that I am a little older.


Yes. if only to see the jag-hearse again.

230 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:47:50pm

And here it is!

231 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:48:01pm

re: #201 gclaghorn

Think about it. I have no doubt that, if he had been employed by another news outlet like NBC or ABC, that the same thing would have happened.

And the whole "What's the frequency" thing. WTF was up with that?

There are a couple of things in that complaint that are funny as hell and make Dan Blather out to be a complete and total fool. One is where the complaint insists that even if the documents were fake Dan could not be held responsible. The other is where the complaints discloses various terms and conditions in Dan's contract, where the contracts specifically refers to Dan Blather as... "The Artist"...................

232 Sharmuta  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:48:07pm

Their entire aim is for the development of their planet? So... they come from 0bamaland?

233 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:49:05pm

I just saw on CNN that Israel has activated 7,000 reservists.

234 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:49:51pm

re: #232 Sharmuta

Their entire aim is for the development of their planet? So... they come from 0bamaland?

*rimshot*

235 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:50:37pm

re: #227 sngnsgt

Whatever it's as big of a joke as dear ol' Dan is.

The site called it a criminal complaint but I'm not aware of any allegation of a crime.

236 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:51:16pm

re: #232 Sharmuta

Their entire aim is for the development of their planet? So... they come from 0bamaland?

They don't cling to life as we do. Maybe they're Jordyptian?

237 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:51:16pm

re: #233 MandyManners

I just saw on CNN that Israel has activated 7,000 reservists.

Hmmmm, what ever do you suppose that could mean? To the IDF I say yo...Fellas..... GET SOME....... Good hunting IDF...

238 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:52:09pm

re: #235 MandyManners

The site called it a criminal complaint but I'm not aware of any allegation of a crime.

It's right in the beginning of the complaint, they accuse CBS of committing fraud.

239 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:52:48pm

One of my favorite Sci-fi movies. wonderfully nightmarish. and - it stars my boyfriend.

240 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:52:54pm

re: #233 MandyManners

I just saw on CNN that Israel has activated 7,000 reservists.

to be used against Hez if they rear their ugly butts...otherwise the clean up crew...

241 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:53:13pm

re: #228 avanti

Is Avanti Motors still in business?

cheers

eon

242 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:53:20pm

re: #238 doriangrey

It's right in the beginning of the complaint, they accuse CBS of committing fraud.

Well CBS is guilty of hiring a fraud. If only they had committed him.

243 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:53:44pm

re: #238 doriangrey

It's right in the beginning of the complaint, they accuse CBS of committing fraud.

I read it but I didn't see that. Hold on.

244 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:54:34pm

re: #238 doriangrey

It's right in the beginning of the complaint, they accuse CBS of committing fraud.

It's a tort.

245 Buster Bunny  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:54:37pm

JibJab - Year 2008 in review

funny stuff

Plucked from Lolfed .. which i'm starting to like.

246 sngnsgt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:55:43pm

re: #235 MandyManners

The site called it a criminal complaint but I'm not aware of any allegation of a crime.

Whatever, I had never read that complaint before. I'm just having a laugh over it anywho.

247 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:56:02pm

re: #237 doriangrey

re: #240 albusteve

Repost to Nassie.

248 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:57:07pm

re: #233 MandyManners

I just saw on CNN that Israel has activated 7,000 reservists.

Did CNN condemn Israel for doing so?

249 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 2:59:28pm

re: #247 MandyManners

re: #240 albusteve

Repost to Nassie.


Funny as hell, but seriously, who ever made that really needs to apologize to the Orangutan they insulted.

250 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:01:33pm

re: #248 FurryOldGuyJeans

Did CNN condemn Israel for doing so?

No.

251 avanti  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:01:49pm

re: #241 eon

Is Avanti Motors still in business?

cheers

eon

Funny story. The rights and tooling for the Avanti was purchased by a Studebaker dealer after production ceased. It was build in various incarnations from 1965 until 2007 with a Chevy engine. The last owner of Avanti motors was Mike Kelly, and he was caught in a ponzi scheme and the car finally died when the government seized his assets.

252 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:03:44pm

re: #228 avanti

This month in 1963, Studebaker ceased US production, before a 2 year move to Canada that ended it. It started as a wagon maker in 1852 and failed largely because of union contracts and strikes without a bailout.
I'm a collector of Studebakers and thought I'd share the video of the Studebaker that still holds the land speed records for a 4 passenger US production car.


[Video]

Did you live in Lynchburg, VA in the 80s?

253 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:03:59pm

re: #234 MandyManners

*rimshot*

254 jorline  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:04:43pm

Law Question for any Lizard Attorney.

Liability on a Home Owners Association sponsored New Years Eve party:

A neighbor down the street called me about attending a New Years Eve party and wanted to know if we would attend. I told her I didn't know what my wife had planned, but I would get back with her. This neighbor has a pattern of having parties with a lot of alcohol while children are present, she's also a school board member. Most of the parties in the past are touted as "Family Parties", but several of the adults forget that and become bullet proof.
An email arrived about a half hour later stating this was going to be a Home Owners Association party. The email said she had spoken to several of the neighbors and they had agreed to take money out of the Association dues to pay for a portion of the party...BS...I was asked if I would attend the party.

Question:

If someone at the party was injured or had an accident, could the Home Owners Association be held liable? Is it the responsibility of each one of the said Home Owners to make sure everyone drinks responsibly? Most of these parties are attended by people outside of the association and will be driving to the party. I don't know how association money can be used for parties without the approval of the home owners.

I don't have a problem with people getting together and having a good time. I don't like when it's presented as a safe party for our children while some adult get shit faced...that's why we stopped attending these kid safe parties several years ago.

255 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:05:57pm

re: #253 Dustyvet

You mentioned earlier today that Hamas is refusing to let the wounded be carried into Egypt. Do you have a link for that?

256 avanti  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:06:20pm

re: #252 goddessoftheclassroom

Did you live in Lynchburg, VA in the 80s?

No, but nearby in Md. Lots of Studebaker Drivers Club members in Virgina though.

257 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:07:00pm

re: #255 MandyManners

You mentioned earlier today that Hamas is refusing to let the wounded be carried into Egypt. Do you have a link for that?

Let me check Mandy.

258 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:07:06pm

re: #254 jorline

You might want to call the HOA's attorney.

259 Throbert McGee  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:07:07pm
We’ve started many open threads with quotes from it, so here’s the complete version of Ed Wood’s freaky masterpiece “Plan 9 from Outer Space” in all its below-zero-budget glory.

In my mind, this is what makes Plan 9 endearing in a way that, say, The Day After Tomorrow and Armageddon and Pearl Harbor and [pick your own lavishly produced but artistically shitty blockbuster] are not, and can never be.

260 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:08:12pm

re: #257 Dustyvet

Let me check Mandy.

IIRC, it was in the CAIR thread.

261 swamprat  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:08:20pm

re: #251 avanti

Funny story. The rights and tooling for the Avanti was purchased by a Studebaker dealer after production ceased. It was build in various incarnations from 1965 until 2007 with a Chevy engine. The last owner of Avanti motors was Mike Kelly, and he was caught in a ponzi scheme and the car finally died when the government seized his assets.

Here is the brainstorming session for their ad;
close enough

262 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:09:02pm

re: #250 MandyManners

No.

WHAT?!? The CNN producers are falling down on the job by not slipping in the obligatory condemnation of Israel for the simple act of existing.

/s/s/s/s/s/s/s add a whole lot more.

263 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:09:12pm
One of the funniest inadvertently funny films ever made.

Yeah right up there with the Lion's 2008 season in review.

264 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:09:45pm

re: #260 MandyManners

IIRC, it was in the CAIR thread.


Hamas 'bars injured leaving Gaza'
A Palestinian family rushes from the scene of an air strike in Rafah
Hamas says it is drawing up lists of the wounded - estimated at about 600

Egypt says the Hamas militant group, which controls Gaza, is preventing hundreds of wounded Palestinians from leaving for treatment in Egypt

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

265 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:10:00pm

re: #233 MandyManners

I just saw on CNN that Israel has activated 7,000 reservists.

They learned their lesson from Lebanon - air power is no substitute for boots on the ground. There is also some noise about a possible Lebanese front.
I read they have already found 40 smuggling tunnels in south Gaza - IMO they really need to immediately retake and hold a strip at the southerly end of Gaza to cut off any possibility of rearming from Egypt.
Death to the Gazan and Islamofascist Terrorist Entity.

266 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:10:25pm

re: #240 albusteve

to be used against Hez if they rear their ugly butts...otherwise the clean up crew...

Yeah something big seems to be building..

267 avanti  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:10:31pm

re: #257 Dustyvet

Let me check Mandy.

Found this:

Earlier, President Hosni Mubarak condemned "the Israeli military aggression on the Gaza Strip and blames Israel, as an occupying force, for the victims and the wounded."

He ordered the Rafah crossing -- the only one bypassing Israel -- to be opened so that the wounded could be treated in Egyptian hospitals.

Dozens of wounded have already passed through, with hundreds more expected, state media reported.

A security official said helicopters were being sent to Rafah to fly some of the wounded to hospitals in Cairo.

268 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:10:55pm

re: #254 jorline

I'm not a lawyer, nor do I belong to a homeowners association, but you should put your concerns in writing and send it registered to the president of the association. Disbursement of association dues should be an agenda item at a meeting and subject to a vote.

It's tacky to host a party and then try to get others to subsidize it.

As for the liability issue, that's scary enough.

I agree with you: there are family parties and then there are "grown up" parties, I don't mind alcohol, but I do mind people getting drunk at any kind of party.

269 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:11:36pm

re: #244 MandyManners

It's a tort.

Is it a kirchtorte? ;)

270 least  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:11:36pm

re: #118 SWPaul

Why doesn't Rather just admit he lied? Not like his career will suffer any further? Once you hit the bottom of the well, can't go much further down.

NEVER underestimate a moonbat's ability to sink to deeper depths of lunacy. Their capacity for utter goofiness knows no bounds.

271 smihut  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:11:54pm

Bad, yes, but you can't deny it's a fun movie.

272 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:12:07pm

re: #256 avanti

No, but nearby in Md. Lots of Studebaker Drivers Club members in Virgina though.

For just a moment I thought you might be an old boy friend's dad. He too collected and restored Studebakers, and he had an Avanti. My boyfriend had a Hawk--what a sweet car!

273 Throbert McGee  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:12:13pm

re: #239 FrogMarch

One of my favorite Sci-fi movies. wonderfully nightmarish. and - it stars my boyfriend.

Okay, so just how big is Kiefer Sutherland's dick?

/Inquiring minds

274 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:12:23pm

re: #263 Mich-again

Yeah right up there with the Lion's 2008 season in review.

the Cowboys are getting utterly pounded by the Eagles...too bad the lions get Dallas today...they would certainly avoided making history

275 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:12:34pm

re: #262 FurryOldGuyJeans

WHAT?!? The CNN producers are falling down on the job by not slipping in the obligatory condemnation of Israel for the simple act of existing.

/s/s/s/s/s/s/s add a whole lot more.

They also mentioned that Ashkelon was a frequent target for Hamas.

276 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:12:47pm

re: #264 Dustyvet

Hamas 'bars injured leaving Gaza'
A Palestinian family rushes from the scene of an air strike in Rafah
Hamas says it is drawing up lists of the wounded - estimated at about 600

Egypt says the Hamas militant group, which controls Gaza, is preventing hundreds of wounded Palestinians from leaving for treatment in Egypt

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

THANKS!

277 baconeatingkaffir  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:12:59pm

Has anyone engaged in the up and coming internet sport of Scambaiting? You know, setting up fake email address and playing with the 419 Nigerian Scammers. I've been doing this recently and havinga great time. So far I have shut down two criminal bank accounts and a fake bank website.

278 baconeatingkaffir  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:13:55pm

re: #276 MandyManners

Yeah Hamas wont let the wounded go. It may prevent moonbat photo shoots if they did.

279 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:14:00pm

re: #251 avanti

Funny story. The rights and tooling for the Avanti was purchased by a Studebaker dealer after production ceased. It was build in various incarnations from 1965 until 2007 with a Chevy engine. The last owner of Avanti motors was Mike Kelly, and he was caught in a ponzi scheme and the car finally died when the government seized his assets.

Bernie Madoff strikes again?

Their website is still up, at least.

Avanti Motors

Beautiful car, if anything even slicker-looking than the original.

cheers

eon

280 jorline  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:14:08pm

re: #258 MandyManners

You might want to call the HOA's attorney.

Thanks, Mandy.

I would be surprised if we have an attorney. I just found out that $800 was pulled for the pre-Trick-Or-Treat Party this year. My wife and I had the party two years ago at our expense...about 150 people attended. I don't like it when money is spent without our knowledge...we don't have annual meeting to review the books, but I guess we should start.

281 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:14:18pm

re: #276 MandyManners

THANKS!

Your welcome.

282 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:14:21pm

re: #254 jorline

This neighbor has a pattern of having parties with a lot of alcohol while children are present,

My family expects there will be a stocked cooler when they come over your house for the kid's birthday party. And dinner. Whats the big deal to serve beer when kids are around?

283 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:14:37pm

re: #265 Spare O'Lake

They learned their lesson from Lebanon - air power is no substitute for boots on the ground. There is also some noise about a possible Lebanese front.
I read they have already found 40 smuggling tunnels in south Gaza - IMO they really need to immediately retake and hold a strip at the southerly end of Gaza to cut off any possibility of rearming from Egypt.
Death to the Gazan and Islamofascist Terrorist Entity.

I trust Israel has destroyed those tunnels.

284 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:14:52pm

re: #266 summergurl

Yeah something big seems to be building..

in my mind Hez would be making a fatal mistake to try and blindside the IDF right now...the question is will they ever get a better opportunity?....Hez is in a tough spot and they know it...imo

285 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:15:22pm

re: #48 Charles

I think that's the only scene in which Bela Lugosi actually appears. Wood used old footage, because Lugosi had already died when the rest of the movie was made. In the rest of the movie a stand-in plays the Lugosi part, holding a cape up to his face.

From IMDB.com's trivia page for Plan 9:

Bela Lugosi appears in footage shot just before his death, but with no script in mind. Edward D. Wood Jr. wrote the script to accommodate all the footage shot in a cemetery and outside Tor Johnson's house in the new production. Lugosi was doubled by Tom Mason, Wood's wife's chiropractor, who was significantly taller than Lugosi, and played the part with a cape covering his face.

286 jorline  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:15:24pm

re: #268 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm not a lawyer, nor do I belong to a homeowners association, but you should put your concerns in writing and send it registered to the president of the association. Disbursement of association dues should be an agenda item at a meeting and subject to a vote.

It's tacky to host a party and then try to get others to subsidize it.

As for the liability issue, that's scary enough.

I agree with you: there are family parties and then there are "grown up" parties, I don't mind alcohol, but I do mind people getting drunk at any kind of party.

Agree 100%, goddess...thank you.

287 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:15:50pm

re: #269 FurryOldGuyJeans

Is it a kirchtorte? ;)

I once ate so many maraschino cherries that I got sick.

288 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:15:58pm

re: #241 eon

Avanti II

289 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:16:21pm

re: #275 MandyManners

They also mentioned that Ashkelon was a frequent target for Hamas.

CNN putting even a little blame on Hamas?!? Man, the world shifted on its axis big time!

290 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:16:36pm

re: #278 baconeatingkaffir

Yeah Hamas wont let the wounded go. It may prevent moonbat photo shoots if they did.

Murderous dick heads.

291 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:17:17pm

re: #287 MandyManners

I once ate so many maraschino cherries that I got sick.

Maraschino cherries are chock full of nasty chemical preservatives and other vile stuff to make them look pretty. BLECH!

292 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:17:21pm

re: #290 MandyManners

Murderous dick heads.

Hamas and the Hez heads rewrote the book on depravity

293 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:17:30pm

re: #280 jorline

GOTC has an excellent post in No. 268.

294 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:17:36pm

re: #280 jorline

Thanks, Mandy.

I would be surprised if we have an attorney. I just found out that $800 was pulled for the pre-Trick-Or-Treat Party this year. My wife and I had the party two years ago at our expense...about 150 people attended. I don't like it when money is spent without our knowledge...we don't have annual meeting to review the books, but I guess we should start.

Oh. My. God.

INSIST on an audit, the results of which are open to the members.
Again, the treasurer should not be allowed to write checks without the membership voting for such authorization.

/I'm a Robert's Rules of Order aficionado

295 avanti  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:18:05pm

re: #272 goddessoftheclassroom

For just a moment I thought you might be an old boy friend's dad. He too collected and restored Studebakers, and he had an Avanti. My boyfriend had a Hawk--what a sweet car!


Here's my Hawk

Hawk.

296 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:18:43pm

re: #294 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh. My. God.

INSIST on an audit, the results of which are open to the members.
Again, the treasurer should not be allowed to write checks without the membership voting for such authorization.

/I'm a Robert's Rules of Order aficionado

the treasurer is obviously a donk....bet me...

297 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:19:41pm

re: #273 Throbert McGee

Okay, so just how big is Kiefer Sutherland's dick?

/Inquiring minds

I wish I knew. but seriously - it's not Kiefer- it's Rufus.

298 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:19:44pm

re: #288 Ojoe

Avanti II

Thanks! I have an about 20-year-old unbuilt AMT model kit of the Avanti. (The engine is missing, so collector value on eBay would be about $0). I was debating what color to paint it. That gold looks just about right.

/Moving up the 'to- build' schedule a couple of spaces

cheers

eon

300 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:20:32pm

re: #287 MandyManners

I once ate so many maraschino cherries that I got sick.

So did Zachary Taylor.

301 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:20:34pm

re: #295 avanti

Here's my Hawk

Hawk.

GORGEOUS!
My boyfriend's was white. I can't remember what year it was, but I seem to remember it had "fins."

302 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:21:47pm

Top of the Recommended list at Dkos....
Today I end my support of Israel

I'm done justifying crimes against humanity by a country that claims to be an illuminated western democracy. I'm done defending a country that is unwilling to grant self-determination to a neighboring people because it won't let go of a few settlements and divide a city. I'm done tolerating the slaughtering of innocent kids, the murderous and barbaric occupation of an impoverished people, the utter disregard for human life.
Fuck them.
If they think their daily peace of mind is worth the lives of hundreds of innocent people, Fuck them.
If they think the best way to go right now would be to vote for Natanyahu (who is so far winning in the polls), Fuck them.
If they won't bat an eye before keeping millions without electricity or water, before bombing civilian neighborhoods at exactly the time when kids are leaving schools, before breaking every standard of international law or moral decency, Fuck them.

303 jaunte  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:22:24pm

Hamas 'bars injured leaving Gaza'
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

304 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:22:43pm

re: #302 Killgore Trout

Top of the Recommended list at Dkos....
Today I end my support of Israel

If I wanted to read such garbage, I'd go over there.

305 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:22:57pm

re: #302 Killgore Trout

Top of the Recommended list at Dkos....
Today I end my support of Israel

I'm guessing it had never begun to begin with.

306 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:23:09pm

re: #298 eon

Thanks! I have an about 20-year-old unbuilt AMT model kit of the Avanti. (The engine is missing, so collector value on eBay would be about $0). I was debating what color to paint it. That gold looks just about right.

/Moving up the 'to- build' schedule a couple of spaces

cheers

eon

stick a hemi in it...that's what we always did when we were kids...hemi this hemi that!

307 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:23:17pm

re: #302 Killgore Trout

Top of the Recommended list at Dkos....
Today I end my support of Israel

That someone gets only the Hamas approved news I see.

308 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:24:20pm

re: #306 albusteve

and fuel it with

CH3NO2

309 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:24:47pm

re: #280 jorline

Thanks, Mandy.

I would be surprised if we have an attorney. I just found out that $800 was pulled for the pre-Trick-Or-Treat Party this year. My wife and I had the party two years ago at our expense...about 150 people attended. I don't like it when money is spent without our knowledge...we don't have annual meeting to review the books, but I guess we should start.

I assume these people, the Board, was voted in. Maybe they should be voted out next year. I find that people like to complain yet when it comes to volunteering themselves there is a "not me" attitude that prevails.

A suggestion is to see if you have Covenants, you should, and check out rules of fund disbursement. Usually the Board is the one that determines how fees are used. That should be done with a vote however some associations allow an officer to spend up to X amount of dollars without a majority rule.

And the Covenants may require an annual meeting - do check it out. I would think also that they have to send a budget out for approval for 2009 and review the expenditures for 2008 with the homeowners.

Bottom line - if you are this concerned - you need to get involved because Homeowner Association should be a good steward of the funds paid to them.


What happens when you need to perform additional landscaping or there is an irrigation (sprinkler) leak? Too bad so sad we spent all our money on rum and coke?

310 jorline  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:25:30pm

re: #282 Mich-again

My family expects there will be a stocked cooler when they come over your house for the kid's birthday party. And dinner. Whats the big deal to serve beer when kids are around?

No problem, but if it's an excuse for the adults to get drunk I do have a problem. Drink responsibly and have a good time...want to get drunk in front of my kids...no thanks.

311 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:25:46pm

Shameless staged photo du jour. Baby doll in barbed wire.

Or is that bride of Chuckie?

312 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:25:56pm

re: #302 Killgore Trout

Top of the Recommended list at Dkos....
Today I end my support of Israel

Right nice piece of Left Wing propaganda! Having said that, I doubt very much that a Jewish person wrote it.

313 debutaunt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:25:57pm

re: #289 FurryOldGuyJeans

CNN putting even a little blame on Hamas?!? Man, the world shifted on its axis big time!

The media will continue this shift over the next three weeks.

314 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:25:58pm

(Nitromethane, the enchanted fuel which will ruin most main bearings, but not on a hemi.)

315 Shr_Nfr  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:26:04pm

re: #69 MandyManners

Oh Shia' it. No more Sunni days for those guys.

316 swamprat  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:26:15pm

re: #302 Killgore Trout


I bet that he's quitting the Republican Party, also. Probably going to sell his Rolls Royce and donate the money to Palestinian children.

Must go; I have a date with three supermodels at the yacht club.

317 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:26:22pm

re: #298 eon

Thanks! I have an about 20-year-old unbuilt AMT model kit of the Avanti. (The engine is missing, so collector value on eBay would be about $0). I was debating what color to paint it. That gold looks just about right.

/Moving up the 'to- build' schedule a couple of spaces

cheers

eon

I've got a long discontinued Martin Marauder tucked away in storage...I've always been reluctant to build it....

318 Bobibutu  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:26:23pm

re: #276 MandyManners

From another source ...

[Link: www.reliefweb.int...]

Egypt ambulances waiting empty on Gaza border

Egyptian state media reported on Saturday that several dozen wounded had crossed into Egypt for treatment.
But state news agency MENA later reported that despite an agreement with Hamas for 70 critical cases to come to Egypt for treatment, no one has crossed "just yet."
"We're still waiting," a medic told AFP on Sunday morning.
"Sometimes they (Hamas) say they're going to bring people, sometimes they say they're not going to bring people," said another medic, requesting anonymity. "Now they say they want medical supplies for the wounded."

319 jorline  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:26:26pm

re: #293 MandyManners

GOTC has an excellent post in No. 268.

thanks...going back up thread.

320 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:26:42pm

re: #306 albusteve

stick a hemi in it...that's what we always did when we were kids...hemi this hemi that!

I'm thinking 350 Chevy with a Paxton/McCulloch supercharger. Typical Avanti II engine fit, circa 1975.

/Yes, I'm a finikin about my models.

cheers

eon

321 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:26:53pm

re: #302 Killgore Trout

Top of the Recommended list at Dkos....
Today I end my support of Israel

I find the protestation of said Kossack to be a bit forced, like they want an excuse to shit on Israel now that Our Messiah-King is about to be anointed and crowned. They have to be part of the in-crowd, and supporting Israel is so GWB.

322 jorline  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:27:25pm

re: #294 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh. My. God.

INSIST on an audit, the results of which are open to the members.
Again, the treasurer should not be allowed to write checks without the membership voting for such authorization.

/I'm a Robert's Rules of Order aficionado

You're a sweetheart too! ;)

323 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:27:49pm

re: #302 Killgore Trout

Top of the Recommended list at Dkos....
Today I end my support of Israel

A f*ck em from an acolyte of Markos screw 'em.

I just enjoy seeing the good Lord's work getting done.

Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord. I shall repay.

324 avanti  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:28:12pm

re: #298 eon

Thanks! I have an about 20-year-old unbuilt AMT model kit of the Avanti. (The engine is missing, so collector value on eBay would be about $0). I was debating what color to paint it. That gold looks just about right.

/Moving up the 'to- build' schedule a couple of spaces

cheers

eon

The Studebaker Avanti gold car is here.

Avanti Gold.

325 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:28:18pm

re: #313 debutaunt

The media will continue this shift over the next three weeks.

What is the objective for such a radical agenda change? I just don't see why.

326 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:28:23pm

re: #308 Ojoe

and fuel it with

CH3NO2

let's git some!...picture an Avanti sedan up on it's casters, smoke broiling...bleach aflame!....

327 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:28:38pm

re: #311 Mich-again

Shameless staged photo du jour. Baby doll in barbed wire.

Or is that bride of Chuckie?

That is not barb wire, it's razor wire. Get it right AP. Now just where did the wee dolly, pick up the flag on the way in?

328 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:28:50pm

re: #310 jorline

No problem, but if it's an excuse for the adults to get drunk I do have a problem. Drink responsibly and have a good time...want to get drunk in front of my kids...no thanks.

The other concern I have is kids' sneaking drinks or worse, adults letting them "have a taste." Drunk adults are a bad example at best and dangerous (sexually aggressive, violent, etc) at worse.

329 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:28:54pm

re: #158 rawmuse

Stalin voted third greatest Russian.

At least the prince, St. Aleksandr Nevsky won. He actually prayed and fretted over the people he was going to fight and kill. He had a knack for winning while outnumbered.

330 BBEV  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:29:18pm

re: #294 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh. My. God.

INSIST on an audit, the results of which are open to the members.
Again, the treasurer should not be allowed to write checks without the membership voting for such authorization.

/I'm a Robert's Rules of Order aficionado

I know I'm late to the party but let me say this as a person who has built hundreds of condo's managed hundreds of condo's and helped write condo law in 2 states, I have been to the New Hampshire State Supreme court twice pro-se or condo Procedure, These people that are managing the money are way out of line!

331 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:29:47pm

re: #327 Dustyvet

That is not barb wire, it's razor wire. Get it right AP. Now just where did the wee dolly, pick up the flag on the way in?

A doll with a Palestinian flag representing children killed in Gaza, is seen hung by protesters on the barbed wire in front the the Egyptian embassy, during a demonstration held by leftist and Palestinian groups to protest Israel's attacks against the Gaza Strip, in Beirut, Lebanon, Sunday Dec. 28, 2008.

332 Bobibutu  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:30:13pm

re: #283 MandyManners

I trust Israel has destroyed those tunnels.

40 have been reported as destroyed - there are many more.

333 MJBrutus  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:30:20pm

re: #19 reine.de.tout

Starring "Dudley Manlove".

Why haven't I ever heard of that actor before now? With a name like that . . .

LMAO! Me neither, but I think I'll change my name. Who wouldn't want to introduce himself as Dudley Manlove?

334 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:30:38pm

re: #307 FurryOldGuyJeans

Progressives enjoy AL Jazeera's coverage. It's tough to see someone so poorly informed.

335 jorline  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:30:43pm

re: #309 summergurl

I assume these people, the Board, was voted in. Maybe they should be voted out next year. I find that people like to complain yet when it comes to volunteering themselves there is a "not me" attitude that prevails.

A suggestion is to see if you have Covenants, you should, and check out rules of fund disbursement. Usually the Board is the one that determines how fees are used. That should be done with a vote however some associations allow an officer to spend up to X amount of dollars without a majority rule.

And the Covenants may require an annual meeting - do check it out. I would think also that they have to send a budget out for approval for 2009 and review the expenditures for 2008 with the homeowners.

Bottom line - if you are this concerned - you need to get involved because Homeowner Association should be a good steward of the funds paid to them.

What happens when you need to perform additional landscaping or there is an irrigation (sprinkler) leak? Too bad so sad we spent all our money on rum and coke?

Excellent points...thank you. I just got off of the phone with one board member, all three are leaving the board this year and want me on it...lol.

336 jorline  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:30:56pm

bbiaw

337 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:31:19pm

re: #329 David IV of Georgia

At least the prince, St. Aleksandr Nevsky won. He actually prayed and fretted over the people he was going to fight and kill. He had a knack for winning while outnumbered.

The poll was done by internet and SMS voting, so I see a lot of multiple spamming votes chalked up no matter who the winner was.

338 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:31:31pm

re: #302 Killgore Trout

Top of the Recommended list at Dkos....
Today I end my support of Israel

Fuck DKos.

339 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:31:45pm

First Plan 9, then Birdemic!

340 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:31:49pm

re: #332 Bobibutu

40 have been reported as destroyed - there are many more.

If they put 1/10th of the energy into plowing land instead of digging under it, they could feed themselves. Evil wankers.

341 jorline  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:32:17pm

re: #293 MandyManners

GOTC has an excellent post in No. 268.

lmao...bingo!

342 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:32:29pm

re: #320 eon

I'm thinking 350 Chevy with a Paxton/McCulloch supercharger. Typical Avanti II engine fit, circa 1975.

/Yes, I'm a finikin about my models.

cheers

eon

I musta built at least 200 model cars back then...Revell ruled...they had separate little kits for engines and slicks with Cragers...all kinds of add ons...MTA was big too...then it got to where you could build the Swamprat or Stone Woods and Cooks 41 Wileys....oh yeah

343 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:32:35pm

re: #294 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh. My. God.

INSIST on an audit, the results of which are open to the members.
Again, the treasurer should not be allowed to write checks without the membership voting for such authorization.

/I'm a Robert's Rules of Order aficionado

Or better yet, no check can be cashed or spent without at least 2 signatures on the check.

Jorline - as re: your earlier question about the HOA being held liable for party-goers who might become inebriated and then get in an accident - I don't know how a suit would be settled, but the person could indeed sue, so even if there were no other expenses, there would at least be some legal expenses to pay to defend the HOA.

You need a local attorney to help sort this out . . .

344 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:32:36pm

re: #338 NJDhockeyfan

Fuck DKos.

Ewww.

345 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:33:15pm

re: #302 Killgore Trout

Blah, blah, blah.

346 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:33:25pm

re: #333 MJBrutus

LMAO! Me neither, but I think I'll change my name. Who wouldn't want to introduce himself as Dudley Manlove?

After watching as much of that movie as my computer would allow me to watch before crashing (which was most of it), I have a newly found appreciation for the Plan 9 quotes Charles has been putting in some of the open threads LOL.

347 hmmm  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:33:28pm

Jewish history and Gaza

Why history matters and an explanation of the reasons for the Gaza operation in the weltanshuung of the Jewish peoples of Israel and how it is applicable to you and me.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.


When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
Martin Niemoller.

This is a reminder to us not to turn our backs on the history of fascist and totalitarian regimes, let not the good people remain silent in the face of controversy.

Fascist regimes with murderous predilections should not be tolerated.

348 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:33:30pm

re: #332 Bobibutu

40 have been reported as destroyed - there are many more.

JDAM-O-RAMA....

349 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:33:43pm

re: #334 Killgore Trout

Progressives enjoy AL Jazeera's coverage. It's tough to see someone so poorly informed.

It ain't tough here in the Seattle area to find lots of clueless people like that, it's hard to NOT find 'em.

350 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:33:53pm

re: #317 albusteve

I've got a long discontinued Martin Marauder tucked away in storage...I've always been reluctant to build it....

Which kit? The 1/48 Monogram has been re-released, the 1/72 Revell and 1/72 Airfix ditto. The 1/48 Ertl is considered the best-detailed Widowmaker in any scale, and goes for about $30 at any IPMS meet.

I could have bought one up at IPMS Columbus last February for $20, but decided on a 1/180 scale Revell B-36 (vintage 1957) for the same price instead. (Maybe this year.)

My motto is, I'm a model builder, not a collector. That said, if I find out a model I have is worth enough to make the effort, I'll put it on eBay.

/Unless it's one I absolutely refuse to part with, like my 1971 MPC Pilgrim Observer Space Probe Ship kit, which will get built one of these days.

cheers

eon

351 talon_262  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:33:56pm

re: #104 sngnsgt

Hey Charles, Dan is still Rather upset:

CBS newsman's $70m lawsuit likely to deal Bush legacy a new blow

www.guardian.co.uk

Fuck Dan Blather and the horse he rode out on...his ego just won't let him take his fall from grace like a man, so instead of just fading away into retirement, he's just gonna become more shrill and strident until he finally shuffles off his mortal coil.

Dan, here's a tip: Just FOAD, OK?

352 Throbert McGee  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:34:14pm

re: #297 FrogMarch

I wish I knew. but seriously - it's not Kiefer- it's Rufus.

Wow, I thought you were gonna say that your boyfriend was "Cop #2" or something -- but you really meant that he was one of the stars of the movie!

(And Rufus is actually more my type than Kiefer -- I like dark-haired men -- so I think you're very lucky!)

353 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:34:15pm

re: #312 Dustyvet

Right nice piece of Left Wing propaganda! Having said that, I doubt very much that a Jewish person wrote it.

Take it as a Rule of Thumb that anyone on the Internet who says "I am a Jew but ..." is not, anyone who says "I am a lifelong Republican but ..." is not, and anyone who says "As a retired combat veteran I am outraged that these chicken hawks ..." is not. The scams are now old and tired. They neither confuse nor amuse.

354 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:34:47pm

Rowan Atkinson


355 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:34:51pm

re: #337 FurryOldGuyJeans

The poll was done by internet and SMS voting, so I see a lot of multiple spamming votes chalked up no matter who the winner was.

Unless there are strict controls on votes, it is extremely easy to manipulate the outcome.

What was that vote last year that a lot of lizards voted a few thousand times apiece on?

356 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:35:00pm

Tzipi Livni (?) the Foreign Minister is on FOX News right now - she said "this has gone on long enough" and "we are looking to change the reality on the ground".

She seems to be one tough cookie ---

She is leaving open the possibility to have a ground assault.

357 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:35:14pm

re: #343 reine.de.tout

Excellent point! I belong to two women's clubs, and both require bills to be presented to the membership, a motion and a second to pay, and the treasurer and president's signature on the check. The treasurer's report is read aloud and entered into the secretary's minutes.

358 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:35:34pm

re: #324 avanti

The Studebaker Avanti gold car is here.

Avanti Gold.

Thanks for that one, too. The internet definitely makes researching models- of anything- a lot easier than it used to be.

cheers

eon

359 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:35:41pm

re: #353 lifeofthemind

Take it as a Rule of Thumb that anyone on the Internet who says "I am a Jew but ..." is not, anyone who says "I am a lifelong Republican but ..." is not, and anyone who says "As a retired combat veteran I am outraged that these chicken hawks ..." is not. The scams are now old and tired. They neither confuse nor amuse.

Enough people accept bullshit as gold if it came from the internet.

360 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:35:55pm

Anyone remember Annie Lennox?

Annie Lennox has called the actions of the Israeli Army over the last few days “a pornography of destruction” and says that the situation will only lead to more violence.

“I have to say that I feel deeply upset and affected by the recent bombings on Gaza,” she stated today in her blog. “The Israeli army says they are justified by taking this action, in retaliation for the shelling by Hamas, but it just seems to me that this level of violence will only escalate into more horror and killings. How can it not?”

Israel struck against Hamas for a second day yesterday. The death toll was more than 280. They opened fire on Hamas as retaliation for continued rocket fire from the region. It was Israel’s most aggressive.

Annie is appalled by the action. “It's utterly atrocious to see people suffering like this. A pornography of destruction”, she says.

361 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:36:25pm

re: #335 jorline

Excellent points...thank you. I just got off of the phone with one board member, all three are leaving the board this year and want me on it...lol.

As an HOA president, and one dealing with the aftermath of a small fire in a four unit condo building, I think the party is a waste of HOA funds. For our association, we need to have funds set aside for the common areas, such as the snow plowing and the grass mowing, and the repair of roofs and driveways. A party with such funds would be irresponsible, IMHO.

362 Bobibutu  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:37:34pm

re: #340 MandyManners

If they put 1/10th of the energy into plowing land instead of digging under it, they could feed themselves. Evil wankers.

check out: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

did you see #318? [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

363 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:37:44pm

re: #326 albusteve

picture an Avanti sedan up on it's casters, smoke broiling...bleach aflame!....

Life is meant to be fun.


BBL

364 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:38:18pm

re: #357 goddessoftheclassroom

Excellent point! I belong to two women's clubs, and both require bills to be presented to the membership, a motion and a second to pay, and the treasurer and president's signature on the check. The treasurer's report is read aloud and entered into the secretary's minutes.

What you described is good procedure, not only for protecting the organizaiton's assets, but to protect those responsible for those assets from being falsely accused.

I belonged to an organization that became lax in its bookkeeping, and before it was all over with, over the course of 18 months, the person in charge of the books had stolen close to $30,000. We did require 2 signatures, one of which was hers, and she was forged the second one. Procedures were put into place similar to what you described to resolve this.

365 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:39:57pm

re: #346 reine.de.tout

After watching as much of that movie as my computer would allow me to watch before crashing (which was most of it), I have a newly found appreciation for the Plan 9 quotes Charles has been putting in some of the open threads LOL.

Rent it on DVD so you can appreciate the subtleties of bad acting, poor set design, abysmal writing, and grade-school level directing without the hassles of crashing your computer. ;)

366 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:40:05pm

re: #327 Dustyvet

That is not barb wire, it's razor wire. Get it right AP. Now just where did the wee dolly, pick up the flag on the way in?

I think this is the doll the Palis are using as their mascot.

367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:40:49pm

i'm a sad fat cowboys fan. they suck. thought they were good. they suck.

does lower case show how low i am?

i'm so low i could play handball against a curb.

368 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:40:54pm

re: #350 eon

Which kit? The 1/48 Monogram has been re-released, the 1/72 Revell and 1/72 Airfix ditto. The 1/48 Ertl is considered the best-detailed Widowmaker in any scale, and goes for about $30 at any IPMS meet.

I could have bought one up at IPMS Columbus last February for $20, but decided on a 1/180 scale Revell B-36 (vintage 1957) for the same price instead. (Maybe this year.)

My motto is, I'm a model builder, not a collector. That said, if I find out a model I have is worth enough to make the effort, I'll put it on eBay.

/Unless it's one I absolutely refuse to part with, like my 1971 MPC Pilgrim Observer Space Probe Ship kit, which will get built one of these days.

cheers

eon

I bought it at an air show 15 years ago and it was about that old then...I didnt have one and couldnt find one so I copped it...I dont know who made it but it was wrapped so I took it...it does seem like I never heard of the manufacturer altho I think it was made in America....I'm no expert bro but when I saw it I just had to have it...it's 1500 miles from me now just sittin there....a number of years ago I got deep into vintage planes...had em hanging all over the house!...I was very proud of my stuff...all gone now...

369 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:41:06pm

re: #360 NJDhockeyfan

Annie is appalled by the action. “It's utterly atrocious to see people suffering like this. A pornography of destruction”, she says.

I think that was a Spinal Tap song wasn't it?

370 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:41:19pm

re: #357 goddessoftheclassroom

Excellent point! I belong to two women's clubs, and both require bills to be presented to the membership, a motion and a second to pay, and the treasurer and president's signature on the check. The treasurer's report is read aloud and entered into the secretary's minutes.


Pretty much the same here - as far as involvement in clubs and associations. I volunteer for alot and keep pretty busy -

One thing though presenting the bill to pay at the meeting is too far along the process - you need to make sure that the expense. was authorized appropriately. When the plants are planted or the drains cleaned out it is too late to wonder if you should have done it or got the best price.

Two Board Member sigs for payment should be a must.

371 Jimmah  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:41:59pm

Ed Wood is the McGonagall of cinema.

The Tay Bridge Disaster by William Topaz McGonagall

Beautiful Railway Bridge of the Silv'ry Tay!
Alas! I am very sorry to say
That ninety lives have been taken away
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember'd for a very long time.

'Twas about seven o'clock at night,
And the wind it blew with all its might,
And the rain came pouring down,
And the dark clouds seem'd to frown,
And the Demon of the air seem'd to say-
"I'll blow down the Bridge of Tay."

When the train left Edinburgh
The passengers' hearts were light and felt no sorrow,
But Boreas blew a terrific gale,
Which made their hearts for to quail,
And many of the passengers with fear did say-
"I hope God will send us safe across the Bridge of Tay."

But when the train came near to Wormit Bay,
Boreas he did loud and angry bray,
And shook the central girders of the Bridge of Tay
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember'd for a very long time.

So the train sped on with all its might,
And Bonnie Dundee soon hove in sight,
And the passengers' hearts felt light,
Thinking they would enjoy themselves on the New Year,
With their friends at home they lov'd most dear,
And wish them all a happy New Year.

So the train mov'd slowly along the Bridge of Tay,
Until it was about midway,
Then the central girders with a crash gave way,
And down went the train and passengers into the Tay!
The Storm Fiend did loudly bray,
Because ninety lives had been taken away,
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember'd for a very long time.

As soon as the catastrophe came to be known
The alarm from mouth to mouth was blown,
And the cry rang out all o'er the town,
Good Heavens! the Tay Bridge is blown down,
And a passenger train from Edinburgh,
Which fill'd all the peoples hearts with sorrow,
And made them for to turn pale,
Because none of the passengers were sav'd to tell the tale
How the disaster happen'd on the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember'd for a very long time.

It must have been an awful sight,
To witness in the dusky moonlight,
While the Storm Fiend did laugh, and angry did bray,
Along the Railway Bridge of the Silv'ry Tay,
Oh! ill-fated Bridge of the Silv'ry Tay,
I must now conclude my lay
By telling the world fearlessly without the least dismay,
That your central girders would not have given way,
At least many sensible men do say,
Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
At least many sensible men confesses,
For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed.

372 Mich-again  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:42:31pm

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

i'm a sad fat cowboys fan. they suck. thought they were good. they suck.

does lower case show how low i am?

i'm so low i could play handball against a curb.

Hey it aint all bad. At least you don't have to fret over who the Cowboys are going to take with their first round pick.

373 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:42:45pm

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

i'm a sad fat cowboys fan. they suck. thought they were good. they suck.

does lower case show how low i am?

i'm so low i could play handball against a curb.

Seahawks.

374 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:43:13pm

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

i'm a sad fat cowboys fan. they suck. thought they were good. they suck.

does lower case show how low i am?

i'm so low i could play handball against a curb.

If the Cowboys suck, then what does that make the Lie-Downs Lions?

/Zero for Sixteen. FIRE WCF!

375 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:43:14pm

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

i'm a sad fat cowboys fan. they suck. thought they were good. they suck.

does lower case show how low i am?

i'm so low i could play handball against a curb.

I'm stunned and my panties are in a major bunch....I am like PISSED bro...

376 Bobibutu  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:43:26pm

re: #348 albusteve

JDAM-O-RAMA....

Locating the tunnels electronically is a problem the Israeli have been working on for some time. I think they may have taken a few pages out of Igloo White in Viet Nam (60s technology) and integrated it with todays.

377 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:43:32pm

re: #342 albusteve

I musta built at least 200 model cars back then...Revell ruled...they had separate little kits for engines and slicks with Cragers...all kinds of add ons...MTA was big too...then it got to where you could build the Swamprat or Stone Woods and Cooks 41 Wileys....oh yeah

Re-releases of old kits are gold in this way. I just got the AMT (ex-MPC) 1973 Mercury Cougar XR-7 for Christmas. I knew it came with the stock 351 Cleveland engine, but imagine my reaction to find that it also included the 429 H.O. of the Mach 1 Mustang. (The 429 was an option on the Cougar that year, but only 31 are known to have been sold with it installed.)

/ The 429 is going in a rebuild AMT 1970 Torino Cobra I think, unless I just go ahead and buy the Revell kit which has the 429 already.

cheers

eon

378 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:43:49pm

re: #372 Mich-again

Hey it aint all bad. At least you don't have to fret over who the Cowboys are going to take with their first round pick.

Could the Cowboys trade Romo or Owens for the first pick?

379 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:43:59pm

re: #360 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone remember Annie Lennox?


WHO?

//

380 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:44:21pm

re: #359 FurryOldGuyJeans

Enough people accept bullshit as gold if it came from the internet.

What! Do you mean to imply that the girl I was chatting with wasn't Adriana Lima? If negative attitudes like that get around then women will start doubting that I am really Brad Pitt.

The Internet was built on Pron like Islam was built on theft and murder.
It is the underlying ethic.

381 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:44:21pm

re: #378 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Could the Cowboys trade Romo or Owens for the first pick?

Right now, we'd be willing to trade owners.

382 yochanan  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:44:29pm
383 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:45:02pm

re: #360 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone remember Annie Lennox?

Anyone listening to her screed have the nerve to ask her to define the term "Kassam rocket"?

/I didn't think so

cheers

eon

384 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:45:20pm
385 reine.de.tout  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:45:39pm

re: #365 FurryOldGuyJeans

Rent it on DVD so you can appreciate the subtleties of bad acting, poor set design, abysmal writing, and grade-school level directing without the hassles of crashing your computer. ;)

I think I will!

386 kansas  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:46:18pm

re: #379 summergurl

WHO?

//

When Israel retaliates, it always results in retalitation. Course its kind of hard to retaliate when you are DEAD.

387 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:46:21pm
388 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:46:37pm

re: #374 Honorary Yooper

If the Cowboys suck, then what does that make the Lie-Downs Lions?

/Zero for Sixteen. FIRE WCF!


Packers---

What else can I say?

At least we beat the Lions ---- along with everyone else

389 kansas  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:47:24pm

re: #387 ploome hineni

annie Lennox was married to an ISraeli

Probably lived in South Florida and voted for Democrats.

390 Jimmah  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:47:39pm

re: #360 NJDhockeyfan

“The Israeli army says they are justified by taking this action, in retaliation for the shelling by Hamas, but it just seems to me that this level of violence will only escalate into more horror and killings. How can it not?”

How the fuck is it that people like our Annie never want to put this 'violence can only cause escalation' argument to the Palestinians? It's moronic.

391 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:47:44pm

re: #380 lifeofthemind

What! Do you mean to imply that the girl I was chatting with wasn't Adriana Lima? If negative attitudes like that get around then women will start doubting that I am really Brad Pitt.

The Internet was built on Pron like Islam was built on theft and murder.
It is the underlying ethic.

The internet was built on information sharing (text), the world wide web has a major pillar being porn.

392 Throbert McGee  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:47:52pm

re: #311 Mich-again

Shameless staged photo du jour. Baby doll in barbed wire.

Technically, I wouldn't call that "staged," since it's clearly identified as being part of a political demonstration. (In my mind, it would be "staged" if they'd made it look as though the doll had been dropped by a Palestinian child who was crawling through a razor-wire barricade in Gaza, while fleeing Zionist soldiers who wanted the child for a Jewish blood ritual.)

But in any case, it's certainly over-the-top in a gloppy way that reminds me of Oscar Wilde's famously catty review of Dickens' The Old Curiosity Shop. ("One must have a heart of stone to read about the death of Little Nell without laughing.")

Really, the only thing missing from the photo is a unicorn weeping for the poor murdered Palestinian dolly, with a thought-balloon asking "Why?!"

393 kansas  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:48:23pm

re: #390 Jimmah

How the fuck is it that people like our Annie never want to put this 'violence can only cause escalation' argument to the Palestinians? It's moronic.

She needs to stand in front of a caterpillar to protest.

394 akak  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:48:23pm

re: #356 summergurl

Tzipi Livni (?) the Foreign Minister is on FOX News right now - she said "this has gone on long enough" and "we are looking to change the reality on the ground".

She seems to be one tough cookie ---

She is leaving open the possibility to have a ground assault.

Tzipi is a female version of Olmert, terrible option.

395 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:48:36pm

re: #385 reine.de.tout

I think I will!

And be sure to checkout "Howard The Duck" on HULU...:)


Diving under desk...:)

396 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:49:31pm

re: #377 eon

Re-releases of old kits are gold in this way. I just got the AMT (ex-MPC) 1973 Mercury Cougar XR-7 for Christmas. I knew it came with the stock 351 Cleveland engine, but imagine my reaction to find that it also included the 429 H.O. of the Mach 1 Mustang. (The 429 was an option on the Cougar that year, but only 31 are known to have been sold with it installed.)

/ The 429 is going in a rebuild AMT 1970 Torino Cobra I think, unless I just go ahead and buy the Revell kit which has the 429 already.

cheers

eon

you are way over my head...I didnt know Revell still existed....I'd probably have a stroke if I went to a hobbyshop....I have no paint kit anymore...no stash of parts but you know I'm gettin a little juiced here!...I dig plastic!....maybe I should go get me an old Chavelle and a Thunderbolt and have some fun again....I was very very good back in the day...to blow my own horn here...ha!

397 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:50:06pm

re: #388 summergurl

Packers---

What else can I say?

At least we beat the Lions ---- along with everyone else

The Colts spanked the Titans today...

398 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:50:48pm

re: #378 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Could the Cowboys trade Romo or Owens for the first pick?

SMACK!
dont even think about it...

399 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:51:15pm

re: #394 akak

Tzipi is a female version of Olmert, terrible option.

I thought her campaign is built on the inspiring slogan "The Electable Olmert."

400 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:51:43pm

Bullet car chase


Woof!


401 wolfie  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:51:49pm

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It is immoral (and should be illegal) to be a Dallas fan when you live in Virginia. You are very naughty!

PS- The Redskins may be losers, too, but at least we beat Philadelphia....TWICE! hahhahahahahahahaha

402 swamprat  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:52:25pm

re: #380 lifeofthemind

What! Do you mean to imply that the girl I was chatting with wasn't Adriana Lima? If negative attitudes like that get around then women will start doubting that I am really Brad Pitt.

The Internet was built on Pron like Islam was built on theft and murder.
It is the underlying ethic.


Safe for work...but not prudent

403 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:52:38pm

re: #393 kansas

She needs to stand in front of a caterpillar to protest.

Holding out a hand full of unfired cartridges.

404 Jimmah  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:53:16pm

Song parodying the sort of middle class 'champagne socialists' who admire Annie Lennox:

405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:54:11pm

re: #401 wolfie

My oldest brother is a huge "Skinnies" fan. I have passive aggressive traits. Picked the Pokes simply to drive him nuts. It stuck.

Cowboys still suck. I'll be back next year: poop sandwiches for everybody!

406 Throbert McGee  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:54:22pm

re: #391 FurryOldGuyJeans

The internet was built on information sharing (text), the world wide web has a major pillar being porn.

Well, that "textual information" included a LOT of written erotica, I can assure you. Not to mention massive amounts of uuencoded porn-mag photo scans on the alt.binaries groups of Usenet -- all before there was a "world wide web."

407 Bobibutu  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:54:55pm

[Link: www.debka.com...]

Israeli commandos already fighting behind Gaza lines
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
December 28, 2008, 11:49 PM (GMT+02:00)


Amid continuing massive air strikes and wide speculation about whether or not Israeli ground forces will cross into the Gaza Strip, DEBKAfile's military sources report small groups of Israeli special forces were already carrying out swift hit-and-run raids Sunday, Dec. 28, on Day 2 of the Israeli Gaza operation.

As Israeli bombers, gunships and drones hovered overhead, picking up every move made by Hamas fighters and their missiles, Israeli stealth squads popped up at command posts, transport routes and missile squads, hit some and then faded away behind sand dunes. This tactic sowed confusion in Hamas ranks and gave them no chance to regroup and recover from the crushing air assault to their military infrastructure. The latest Palestinian death toll is estimated at 296.

This ground operation, which is likely to intensify Sunday overnight, has two objectives:

1. To mark key targets for air bombardment;

2. To blaze the way for a large-scale armored incursion still to come.

The most important mission carried out by the Israeli Air Force Sunday was the destruction of 40 smuggling tunnels, severing Hamas' arms, fuel, ammunition and reinforcements lifeline from Iran and Syria via Egyptian Sinai. It raised the question of why this feat was not carried out during the three years since the tunnels began functioning.

Whereas Saturday, the Israeli bombers struck with missiles, Sunday, dropped CBU-24 bunker busters which detonate 30 minutes after penetration on the Philadelphi tunnels. By the time the plumes of black smoke rose over the targeted area, the Israeli planes were gone.

408 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:55:24pm

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

i'm a sad fat cowboys fan. they suck. thought they were good. they suck.

does lower case show how low i am?

i'm so low i could play handball against a curb.

Not looking good for the Pats either. Serves us right for having to depend on the Jets winning a game...

409 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:55:48pm

re: #385 reine.de.tout

I think I will!

There is a special 2 DVD set that has all of Ed Wood's Greatest Hits: The Ed Wood Collection - A Salute to Incompetence. While Plan 9 may be his Magnum Opus, his other cinematic works show it wasn't a fluke for being so bad.

410 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:55:52pm
411 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:56:22pm

re: #308 Ojoe

and fuel it with

CH3NO2

Nitro Hmmmm.

ARMY Slingshot

412 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:57:05pm

Wait...Cowboys may be coming back.

Just got a field goal, with 7:40 left. Woo Hoo! Watch out y'all!

413 gregg  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:57:45pm

I think some here will find this interesting. A visualization of air traffic over Britain:

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

and ships passing through the English Channel:

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

414 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 3:58:41pm

re: #352 Throbert McGee

Wow, I thought you were gonna say that your boyfriend was "Cop #2" or something -- but you really meant that he was one of the stars of the movie!

(And Rufus is actually more my type than Kiefer -- I like dark-haired men -- so I think you're very lucky!)

cop #2 - hot.

415 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:00:07pm

re: #360 NJDhockeyfan

And we're supposed to care about her opinion why? She's a moderately good musician, but I've never thought that being a musician gave you any special insight into the workings of the world.

Besides, Marylin Manson did a better job on his cover of their songs. Are we going to care about the "deep wisdom" of Marylin
Manson next? Shut the fuck up and sing!

416 wolfie  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:00:12pm

re: #405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LOL! Being a younger sibling myself, I hereby forgive you and congratulate you on your marvelous obnoxiousness! :D

417 avanti  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:00:19pm

re: #396 albusteve

you are way over my head...I didnt know Revell still existed....I'd probably have a stroke if I went to a hobbyshop....I have no paint kit anymore...no stash of parts but you know I'm gettin a little juiced here!...I dig plastic!....maybe I should go get me an old Chavelle and a Thunderbolt and have some fun again....I was very very good back in the day...to blow my own horn here...ha!

I know you'll get a kick out of this ebay story about a guy trying to sell a rusty Tempest for $500. He had no idea of what he had.

Tempest

418 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:00:36pm

Army slingshot
Ignore the other post/

419 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:01:00pm
420 eon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:02:24pm

re: #396 albusteve

you are way over my head...I didnt know Revell still existed....I'd probably have a stroke if I went to a hobbyshop....I have no paint kit anymore...no stash of parts but you know I'm gettin a little juiced here!...I dig plastic!....maybe I should go get me an old Chavelle and a Thunderbolt and have some fun again....I was very very good back in the day...to blow my own horn here...ha!

Revell-Monogram is the 800-kilogram gorilla of plastic models today, with their Revell-Germany subsidiary they have a bigger product range than any of the Japanese Big Three (Fujimi, Hasegawa, and Tamiya), and their prices are a lot more reasonable. (When Hasegawa's 1/72 plane kits started hitting the $40 mark at retail, I stopped buying them.) Model building is coming back in a big way as an adult hobby, among other things because for under $100 you can get everything you need to do it plus a couple or three kits to start out on- name another "adult hobby" that can make that claim. (Golf isn't one of them.) Myself, I've built plastic kits in my spare time for 46 years, and now that I'm (medically) retired I have more time for it. My definition of a typical relaxing evening is an old sci-fi or horror movie on my DVD player and a model on my worktable in the living room. I'm no master modeler, but I've won a few awards over the years.

If you have the time and want to get back into it, go for it. Model building today is, seriously, better than ever. And I guarantee you your local hobby shop is always glad to have a new customer.

Speaking of which, it's time for me to call it a night. There's a movie calling my name, and a 1/24 scale 1937 Mercedes-Benz 540K Tourer that wants its chrome bits installed.

Good night, Lizards.

Pleasant dreams.

cheers

eon

421 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:03:06pm

re: #417 avanti

I know you'll get a kick out of this ebay story about a guy trying to sell a rusty Tempest for $500. He had no idea of what he had.

Tempest

I love those stories...I believe there is a Super Duty up in Auburn Indiana...could google it....my gear head brother in law has a photo of one...terrific story...one of six!

422 stevieray  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:03:26pm

Well, the Cleveland Browns just announced they are firing their coach and GM... no surprise there.

423 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:03:34pm

re: #406 Throbert McGee

Well, that "textual information" included a LOT of written erotica, I can assure you. Not to mention massive amounts of uuencoded porn-mag photo scans on the alt.binaries groups of Usenet -- all before there was a "world wide web."

Everyone, My point, hopefully worthy and dingable, was that the elements of anonymity and deceit were built into the Internet. They are part of the DNA and have political implications. The tidal wave of abuse and dishonest manipulation during the election was predictable. It parallels and builds on deconstructionist philosophy.

424 Summer  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:03:34pm

I actually just watched the entire thing...

Charles, you owe me 1 hour and 18 minutes back of my life. =)

Hilarious, in a seriously tragic way. Glad I did see it tho...sorta like, so I can tell my grandchildren one day that I too..came out of Egy...Plan 9 From Outer Space.

425 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:03:57pm

re: #406 Throbert McGee

Well, that "textual information" included a LOT of written erotica, I can assure you. Not to mention massive amounts of uuencoded porn-mag photo scans on the alt.binaries groups of Usenet -- all before there was a "world wide web."

All that came AFTER the invention of the 'net when its usage spread outside the core groups.

426 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:05:32pm

re: #420 eon

Revell-Monogram is the 800-kilogram gorilla of plastic models today, with their Revell-Germany subsidiary they have a bigger product range than any of the Japanese Big Three (Fujimi, Hasegawa, and Tamiya), and their prices are a lot more reasonable. (When Hasegawa's 1/72 plane kits started hitting the $40 mark at retail, I stopped buying them.) Model building is coming back in a big way as an adult hobby, among other things because for under $100 you can get everything you need to do it plus a couple or three kits to start out on- name another "adult hobby" that can make that claim. (Golf isn't one of them.) Myself, I've built plastic kits in my spare time for 46 years, and now that I'm (medically) retired I have more time for it. My definition of a typical relaxing evening is an old sci-fi or horror movie on my DVD player and a model on my worktable in the living room. I'm no master modeler, but I've won a few awards over the years.

If you have the time and want to get back into it, go for it. Model building today is, seriously, better than ever. And I guarantee you your local hobby shop is always glad to have a new customer.

Speaking of which, it's time for me to call it a night. There's a movie calling my name, and a 1/24 scale 1937 Mercedes-Benz 540K Tourer that wants its chrome bits installed.

Good night, Lizards.

Pleasant dreams.

cheers

eon

thanks for the skinny and the inspiration Eon....when I need some advice I'll come acallin!

427 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:05:56pm

re: #407 Bobibutu

Hey its Debka, it may even be true, often makes sense, fun to read.

428 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:05:58pm

re: #424 Summer

I actually just watched the entire thing...

Charles, you owe me 1 hour and 18 minutes back of my life. =)

Hilarious, in a seriously tragic way. Glad I did see it tho...sorta like, so I can tell my grandchildren one day that I too..came out of Egy...Plan 9 From Outer Space.

You need to see his other works then, like Glen or Glenda, or Bride of the Monster. ;)

429 Rancher  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:06:05pm

Israel should smack Gaza hard. Like they're not doing so already but they should invade and take over. India should invade the tribal areas. Anyone who thinks further restraint on the part of parties who's citizens are being killed with impunity should ask themselves would they be willing to be so passive. If Mexico were firing rockets into San Francisco would those surrender monkeys say, "Not in my name!"?

430 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:06:40pm

re: #425 FurryOldGuyJeans

All that came AFTER the invention of the 'net when its usage spread outside the core groups.

Oddly enough, it's similar to how VHS became popular. What more can I say, but that sex sells.

431 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:07:16pm

re: #429 Rancher

If Mexico were firing rockets into San Francisco would those surrender monkeys say, "Not in my name!"?

Sadly, yes

432 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:07:38pm

Friggin' Eagles are going to win. Unbelievable. Congratulations Eagles fans: You just secured yourselves five more years of incompetency in Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb.

And this from a Philadelphia native.

433 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:08:11pm

re: #432 Wyatt Earp

Friggin' Eagles are going to win. Unbelievable. Congratulations Eagles fans: You just secured yourselves five more years of incompetency in Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb.

And this from a Philadelphia native.

Could be worse. The Eagles could be owned by William Clay Ford, Sr.

434 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:08:36pm

re: #433 Honorary Yooper

Could be worse. The Eagles could be owned by William Clay Ford, Sr.

Wow, way t put it in perspective. Ford is burtal!

435 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:08:37pm

re: #430 Honorary Yooper

Oddly enough, it's similar to how VHS became popular. What more can I say, but that sex sells.

VHS became popular simply because the format had cheaper VCRs than Sony produced with their Beta format. Very similar reasons why the QWERTY keyboard is the standard; best is not necessarily what people accept.

436 Summer  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:08:38pm

re: #428 FurryOldGuyJeans

You need to see his other works then, like Glen or Glenda, or Bride of the Monster. ;)

I feel drained, empty, cold....sort of like those zombies walking around in the movie. =)
Plus it's a Saturday afternoon. Basically, I just feel like curling up for a while and sleeping it off. =)

437 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:08:39pm

Ernest T. Bass is on TVLAND!

438 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:08:43pm

re: #432 Wyatt Earp

Friggin' Eagles are going to win. Unbelievable. Congratulations Eagles fans: You just secured yourselves five more years of incompetency in Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb.

And this from a Philadelphia native.

Embrace the mediocrity...

439 Summer  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:09:17pm

re: #436 Summer

er...make that Sunday afternoon.

See what it's done to me? =)

440 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:09:17pm

re: #436 Summer

I feel drained, empty, cold....sort of like those zombies walking around in the movie. =)
Plus it's a Saturday afternoon. Basically, I just feel like curling up for a while and sleeping it off. =)

WIMP! ;)

441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:09:51pm

re: #432 Wyatt Earp

You weren't here a while ago.

Hi Wyatt! How are you. I'm a Cowboys fan!

442 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:09:54pm

re: #436 Summer

I feel drained, empty, cold....sort of like those zombies walking around in the movie. =)
Plus it's a Saturday afternoon. Basically, I just feel like curling up for a while and sleeping it off. =)

Pssssssssssssssttt....

443 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:09:59pm

re: #433 Honorary Yooper

Could be worse. The Eagles could be owned by William Clay Ford, Sr.

I hate the Eagles...hate em!...if hate were a country I'd be China

444 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:10:31pm

re: #438 Bloodnok

Embrace the mediocrity...

The thing that pisses me off to no end is that the Stepford Eagles fans will think that since they made the playoffs, everything is fine and dandy. A freind of mine just called and said, "We can beat Minnesota." As if winning one lousy playoff game - maybe - was a huge feat.

Philadelphia Sports Fans: Kings of Lowered Expectations.

Now I get to sit and watch my Broncos get pummeled. Dang.

445 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:10:47pm

re: #437 MandyManners

Ernest T. Bass is on TVLAND!

Love Ernest T and the Darlin's. Wife is watching the footsballs. Won't let me change the channel.

446 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:11:13pm

re: #436 Summer

I feel drained, empty, cold....sort of like those zombies walking around in the movie. =)
Plus it's a Saturday afternoon. Basically, I just feel like curling up for a while and sleeping it off. =)

Sounds like General Ripper after the physical act of love. Have some rain water and grain alcohol. Perk you right up.

447 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:11:38pm

re: #441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You weren't here a while ago.

Hi Wyatt! How are you. I'm a Cowboys fan!

As is my 7-year old. I despise the Eagles - and really despise the ignorant neighbors of mine who adore them - and was really hoping the 'Boys would kick their arses.

448 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:12:01pm

re: #445 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Love Ernest T and the Darlin's. Wife is watching the footsballs. Won't let me change the channel.

Wife is watching sports while you want to watch music?!?

[self-censored!] ;)

449 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:12:14pm

re: #411 DEZes

Thanks !

450 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:12:29pm

re: #447 Wyatt Earp

Ain't that their freaking stadium on your website?

451 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:12:33pm

re: #443 albusteve

I hate the Eagles...hate em!...if hate were a country I'd be China

Born and raised in Philly. I still live here, and I despise them with the red hot intensity of a thousand suns. I may change my mind when/if Reid and McNabb leave, but until then . . . Go Broncos!

452 Bobibutu  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:12:33pm

re: #427 lifeofthemind

Hey its Debka, it may even be true, often makes sense, fun to read.

A great source of information and disinformation. Fun to figure out which or get fooled completely.

453 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:13:05pm

re: #444 Wyatt Earp

The thing that pisses me off to no end is that the Stepford Eagles fans will think that since they made the playoffs, everything is fine and dandy. A freind of mine just called and said, "We can beat Minnesota." As if winning one lousy playoff game - maybe - was a huge feat.

Philadelphia Sports Fans: Kings of Lowered Expectations.

Now I get to sit and watch my Broncos get pummeled. Dang.

You are 100% correct.

(about to watch the Pats miss the playoffs at 11-5 so I can't bear to watch either SD or Denver make it at 8-8. You know how it is. ;-)

454 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:13:28pm

re: #450 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ain't that their freaking stadium on your website?

Nope. That's where they played the 2006 NCAA Final Four of Mens' Lacrosse. At least, that's what I tell myself!

I like the picture for the Phillies and Flyers' arenas.

455 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:14:14pm

re: #444 Wyatt Earp

Well, there's a reason why football is at the bottom of the four sport pile when you have the Lions in town. Time to turn the back on the debacle and embrace hockey season with a team that consistently makes the playoffs, and, by golly, actually wins them.

456 Spider Mensch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:14:16pm

I hope the tunnels were full of the pali terro-rats...
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

457 Rancher  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:14:21pm

re: #419 Thanos

Condi with a shoe on her head


Stupid asses, Condi has been too pro Pali IMHO.

458 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:14:44pm

re: #455 Honorary Yooper

Well, there's a reason why football is at the bottom of the four sport pile when you have the Lions in town. Time to turn the back on the debacle and embrace hockey season with a team that consistently makes the playoffs, and, by golly, actually wins them.

My son loves the Wings - and for good reason: they kick butt!

459 Racer X  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:15:51pm

Dallas sucks!

And McNabb dances funny.

460 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:16:00pm

Dracula's Guest is apposedly a first chapter to Dracula -the book by Bram Stoker.

I enjoyed reading it. Some suggest that it may have been intended as a stand alone short story.

Dracula's Guest

[Link: www.literature.org...]


Johann looked under his lifted hand at the horizon and said, "The storm of snow, he comes before long time." Then he looked at his watch again, and, straightway holding his reins firmly--for the horses were still pawing the ground restlessly and shaking their heads--he climbed to his box as though the time had come for proceeding on our journey.

I felt a little obstinate and did not at once get into the carriage.

"Tell me," I said, "about this place where the road leads," and I pointed down.

Again he crossed himself and mumbled a prayer before he answered, "It is unholy."

"What is unholy?" I enquired.

"The village."

"Then there is a village?"

"No, no. No one lives there hundreds of years."

My curiosity was piqued, "But you said there was a village."

"There was."

"Where is it now?"

461 debutaunt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:16:18pm

re: #325 FurryOldGuyJeans

What is the objective for such a radical agenda change? I just don't see why.

To return expectations back to reasonable for 0, as he deals with the reality of the Middle East. Otherwise, his followers will expect him to actually do some magic trick that Bush couldn't do.

462 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:17:18pm

re: #459 Racer X

Dallas sucks!

And McNabb dances funny.

I've never seen such a mediocre player brag so much after one game. It's like his entire terrible season gave him an excuse to showboat. Ass.

Rush Limbaugh was right, btw. OVERRATED!

463 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:17:27pm

re: #448 FurryOldGuyJeans

What are you trying to say?

/

Was watching a game a few weeks ago, heard the wife pull into the garage....flipped over to men's figure skating. She walked into the room...nearly fainted.

464 jaunte  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:17:42pm

In response to Gaza raids, Hamas threatens to assassinate Livni, Barak kill anyone who looked at them funny.

Hamas on Sunday threatened to respond to an ongoing Israel Defense Forces assault on the Gaza Strip by assassinating senior Israeli officials. Senior Hamas official Fatah Hamad specifically threatened Livni and Defense Minister Ehud Barak.

He also threatened that Hamas would go after senior Palestinian Authority officials in the West Bank, as well as "those in the Arab world who have conspired against us," - an apparent reference to Egypt.


[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

465 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:18:50pm

re: #464 jaunte

In response to Gaza raids, Hamas threatens to assassinate Livni, Barak kill anyone who looked at them funny.


[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Bat-shit crazy.

466 Rancher  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:19:08pm

re: #432 Wyatt Earp

Friggin' Eagles are going to win. Unbelievable. Congratulations Eagles fans: You just secured yourselves five more years of incompetency in Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb.

And this from a Philadelphia native.

Dallas deserved to loose, they played like crap. Time to cut TO and Packman loose. Maybe a few other overpriced underachievers. What do we do about Romo? He better grow up and learn some judgment or he too may have to go.

467 debutaunt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:19:40pm

re: #365 FurryOldGuyJeans

Rent it on DVD so you can appreciate the subtleties of bad acting, poor set design, abysmal writing, and grade-school level directing without the hassles of crashing your computer. ;)

You can play it on your computer for free on Netflix.

468 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:20:08pm

Now, for the love of G-d, Brett. RETIRE.

469 Racer X  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:20:23pm

re: #464 jaunte

Hamas on Sunday threatened to respond to an ongoing Israel Defense Forces assault on the Gaza Strip by assassinating senior Israeli officials. Senior Hamas official Fatah Hamad specifically threatened Livni and Defense Minister Ehud Barak.


Who are they kidding. If they could, they would have a long time ago.

470 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:20:37pm

re: #449 Ojoe

Thanks !


Your welcome of course, strangely the link refuses to go to the video I was linking to.
But I do love the smell of Nitro in the morning. :)

471 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:20:37pm

re: #467 debutaunt

You can play it on your computer for free on Netflix.

Gotta have an account you paid for with Netflix, so still you are renting it. ;)

472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:20:38pm

re: #466 Rancher

TO and Pacman are why they have the Raiders. Not my Cowboys.

473 jaunte  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:20:38pm

re: #465 MandyManners

Definitely a Monty Python Black Knight moment.

474 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:21:11pm

re: #466 Rancher

Dallas deserved to loose, they played like crap. Time to cut TO and Packman loose. Maybe a few other overpriced underachievers. What do we do about Romo? He better grow up and learn some judgment or he too may have to go.

Romo has to meet expectations beyond normal...he'll be all right

475 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:21:28pm

re: #469 Racer X

Who are they kidding. If they could, they would have a long time ago.

They are just trying to garner world support and sympathy.

476 unclassifiable  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:21:41pm

Congratulations Miami.

It really sucks for New England but I will go on a limb and say that there maybe a rebuilding movement there. The D needs work.

The Jets...

... guess you made your move (Pennington) too soon.

477 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:22:04pm

re: #466 Rancher

Dallas deserved to loose, they played like crap. Time to cut TO and Packman loose. Maybe a few other overpriced underachievers. What do we do about Romo? He better grow up and learn some judgment or he too may have to go.

For the life of me, I cannot fathom how they can consistently poop the bed in the last games of the season.

I was hoping the Eagles would miss the playoffs, and that idiot Jeff Lurie would hire Bill Cowher. Now, we have to rely on a moron who has been living off a Super Bowl LOSS for years now.

478 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:22:36pm

re: #475 FurryOldGuyJeans

They are just trying to garner world support and sympathy.

the Eagles remind me of Hamas...

479 DistantThunder  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:22:40pm

Youtube animation of Dracula's Guest (7:00)
Bram Sstoker's "unpublished" short story

480 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:22:51pm

re: #478 albusteve

the Eagles remind me of Hamas...

UPDING!

481 victor_yugo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:23:30pm

Charles, thank you for posting this video. This will be one to enjoy during my unemployed time.

Hi all. Christmas was good, but now I'm starting to go stir crazy.

482 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:23:43pm

re: #476 unclassifiable

Congratulations Miami.

It really sucks for New England but I will go on a limb and say that there maybe a rebuilding movement there. The D needs work.

The Jets...

... guess you made your move (Pennington) too soon.

Yup. The Pats D is old in places and the secondary is awful. They need a quality RB, too. Maroney is a bust.

483 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:23:44pm

re: #464 jaunte

In response to Gaza raids, Hamas threatens to assassinate Livni, Barak kill anyone who looked at them funny.


[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Clue guys. After you have already threatened to kill everybody and after you have already tried to kill everybody and after you violated your truces and after you have already identified with the people who cut Danny Pearl's head off and strapped bobs on helpless women and children and mental defectives, it gets kind of hard to take your threats more seriously. Of course you are threatening to kill people. The point is we don't believe that you are ever not threatening to kill so making you more or less unhappy is not exactly of concern any more.

484 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:23:45pm

re: #477 Wyatt Earp

For the life of me, I cannot fathom how they can consistently poop the bed in the last games of the season.

I was hoping the Eagles would miss the playoffs, and that idiot Jeff Lurie would hire Bill Cowher. Now, we have to rely on a moron who has been living off a Super Bowl LOSS for years now.

I think Cower is done with cold weather...I could be wrong...interesting byline tho

485 Racer X  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:24:05pm

re: #475 FurryOldGuyJeans

They are just trying to garner world support and sympathy.

By announcing they intend to assassinate the leaders of a country.

Idiots.

486 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:24:11pm

re: #468 Bloodnok

Now, for the love of G-d, Brett. RETIRE.

It's a shame that the coaching staff will feel the brunt of the blame on this one. Farv-vre-vre really collapsed toward the end. Should have stayed retired.

487 Big Steve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:24:26pm

Maybe LGF has turned me into a hopeless cynic but I have been looking at a photo that has been out a few hours from AP (picture 1 at:AP Photo Dead Hamas security officer. I blew it up. The body appears staged in that the stone dust and muck only cover parts of his shoulders and arms and only the back portion of the hair. Also the hands appear to be gripping the rocks. Maybe I am wrong because maybe the body was shifted by rescuers. I don't know......

488 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:24:31pm

re: #477 Wyatt Earp

For the life of me, I cannot fathom how they can consistently poop the bed in the last games of the season.

I was hoping the Eagles would miss the playoffs, and that idiot Jeff Lurie would hire Bill Cowher. Now, we have to rely on a moron who has been living off a Super Bowl LOSS for years now.

I read that and thought "WTF ... the Broncos haven't even started yet".
I've been reading the various miseries about football teams with some degree of sympathies.
(yeah ... Broncos fan here)

489 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:25:31pm

re: #382 yochanan

[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

That is a terrific column. Thanks for putting it up.

490 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:25:33pm

re: #485 Racer X

By announcing they intend to assassinate the leaders of a country.

Idiots.

The UN and media types usually eat it up and accept the bullshit at face value.

491 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:25:49pm

re: #486 Wyatt Earp

It's a shame that the coaching staff will feel the brunt of the blame on this one. Farv-vre-vre really collapsed toward the end. Should have stayed retired.

You mean Favureh threw picks in a must-win game? I don't belieeeeeve it!

/

492 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:26:06pm

re: #488 jwb7605

I read that and thought "WTF ... the Broncos haven't even started yet".
I've been reading the various miseries about football teams with some degree of sympathies.
(yeah ... Broncos fan here)

As am I. I almost don't want to watch tonight. Not that it will matter. If the Broncs win, they won't go far. Too many injuries.

Cutler is a stud with a rocket arm, though, so we've got that.

493 lifeofthemind  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:28:04pm

The Gazans are the unfunny version of the Ransom of Red Chief. At this point Mubarak of Egypt would pay Israel good money, if he had any, to keep the Israelis from tossing the Gazans into Egypt. No one wants them. Even other Palestinians don't want them.

494 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:28:19pm

re: #490 FurryOldGuyJeans

The UN and media types usually eat it up and accept the bullshit at face value.

Yep. Everything the US tells them is reported as "The US military claims..."

But reports from terrorists are reported as, "US troops killed 4500 civilian orphans today and earned worldwide condemnation, sources report."

495 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:28:43pm

re: #492 Wyatt Earp

As am I. I almost don't want to watch tonight. Not that it will matter. If the Broncs win, they won't go far. Too many injuries.

Cutler is a stud with a rocket arm, though, so we've got that.

I believe they have literally set a new record with the number of running backs on injured reserve at 7.
Shanahan indeed just "plugs a new one in".

Next year will be Cutler's year. He's already where Elway was after 7 years.

496 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:28:51pm

I need some lizard opinions: Pshop or not?
Notice the dirt plume to the right, how it appears to hang above a building when you zoom in.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

497 SurferDoc  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:29:08pm

re: #400 Dustyvet

Bullet car chase

Woof!

[Video]

I drove a Mustang to the theater to watch that film for the first time. I left the parking lot screeching rubber and I have probably never been right since. ;-)

498 victor_yugo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:29:17pm

re: #490 FurryOldGuyJeans

The UN and media types usually eat it up and accept the bullshit at face value.

Or, put more simply, the UN and media eat shit.

499 anotherindyfilmguy  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:29:38pm

Was watching Plan 9 and noticed Lucky (forever a pupster) had turned over on his back and was covering his eyes...
But it's so inspiring...
Sigh...

500 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:29:49pm

re: #496 Thanos

I need some lizard opinions: Pshop or not?
Notice the dirt plume to the right, how it appears to hang above a building when you zoom in.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Which pick please?

501 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:30:12pm

re: #496 Thanos

I need some lizard opinions: Pshop or not?
Notice the dirt plume to the right, how it appears to hang above a building when you zoom in.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Which pic? Pic #1 comes up on the link.

502 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:30:25pm

re: #487 Big Steve

This is the AP. They are a "professsional" journalism consortium. They would never stage a body in an effort to distort the "facts" on the ground. It's just that they define "facts" in a more progressive way than you or I do. They can't possibly be bound or constrained from telling the narrative in a manner consistant with the way that the "facts" must be.

Little things like "reality" have to sit at the back of the bus. For the telling of a greater "truth".

503 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:31:19pm

re: #464 jaunte

In response to Gaza raids, Hamas threatens to assassinate Livni, Barak kill anyone who looked at them funny.


[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

This is news?

Come on.

504 Lincolntf  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:31:20pm

I can't believe the Pats aren't going to the playoffs, but I still think they had a remarkable (not great) season, all things considered.
Rooting for the Jets hurt me on the inside.

505 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:32:01pm

re: #501 Bloodnok

I'm now guessing it is pic #3.

506 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:32:02pm

re: #502 Iron Fist

This is the AP. They are a "professsional" journalism consortium. They would never stage a body in an effort to distort the "facts" on the ground. It's just that they define "facts" in a more progressive way than you or I do. They can't possibly be bound or constrained from telling the narrative in a manner consistant with the way that the "facts" must be.

Little things like "reality" have to sit at the back of the bus. For the telling of a greater "truth".

Fists been drinkin

507 Luigi  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:32:08pm
"Hamas began shelling, Israel responded."
---David Axelrod

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

508 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:32:23pm

re: #498 victor_yugo

Or, put more simply, the UN and media eat shit.

You are going to earn the wrath of Media Boy poster, you know (I refuse to name him). ;)

509 freedombilly  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:32:41pm

Haven't read the thread so pardon me if this has already been reported but just figured out this is available for instant playback at Netflix.

510 swamprat  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:32:58pm

re: #487 Big Steve
no staging here
adult male
in a building

Child clutching a teddy in a field?/ Oh yeah: Fake-o.
Dead member of the militant wing of Hamas?/He's gone. It's real.

511 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:33:08pm

re: #505 Bloodnok

I'm now guessing it is pic #3.

The pics are from AFP; that makes 'em all suspect, really.

512 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:33:29pm

re: #506 albusteve

Actually, I've not had a drink for almost nine months. It sucks :-(

513 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:34:05pm

re: #509 freedombilly

Haven't read the thread so pardon me if this has already been reported but just figured out this is available for instant playback at Netflix.

What is available for instant play at Netflix? ;)

514 Racer X  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:34:13pm

I'm still watching the movie (movie night at LGF!) and I keep crackin up at the "old man" hiding behind his cape.

515 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:34:13pm

re: #500 DEZes

Which pick please?

Sorry it's photo 14 of 143

516 Elcid  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:34:14pm

re: #502 Iron Fist

Hope you had a great Christmas, Fist. Thank God, I'm to old for ties. :)

517 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:34:24pm

re: #496 Thanos

I need some lizard opinions: Pshop or not?
Notice the dirt plume to the right, how it appears to hang above a building when you zoom in.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Photo #3? Maybe, but it's tough to tell. There's a lot of dirt there.

518 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:34:41pm

re: #512 Iron Fist

Actually, I've not had a drink for almost nine months. It sucks :-(

Awww, congratulations. When are you due?

/

519 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:34:51pm

re: #501 Bloodnok

Which pic? Pic #1 comes up on the link.

14

520 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:34:54pm

re: #515 Thanos

Sorry it's photo 14 of 143

OK, BRB.

521 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:35:15pm

re: #512 Iron Fist

Actually, I've not had a drink for almost nine months. It sucks :-(

You are to be congratulated.
Might suck, but you are to be respected, assuming you're intentionally quitting.

522 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:35:17pm

re: #512 Iron Fist

Actually, I've not had a drink for almost nine months. It sucks :-(

it's good to dry out like that...I admire you...it may suck but I bet alot of other stuff doesnt...nice goin

523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:35:52pm

re: #517 Honorary Yooper

That "rage boy" on #8? Seriously.

524 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:36:09pm

re: #515 Thanos

Sorry it's photo 14 of 143

The link you put up, at least for me, only has 136 pictures total with 14 being a map of the area.

525 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:36:13pm

re: #496 Thanos

I need some lizard opinions: Pshop or not?
Notice the dirt plume to the right, how it appears to hang above a building when you zoom in.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

No. 10 shows the bombed out HamasTV building.

526 Elcid  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:36:20pm

re: #518 Silhouette

Awww, congratulations. When are you due?

/

Awww, come on, give the dude a break....LOL.

Congrats, Fist

527 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:36:24pm

re: #520 DEZes

OK, BRB.

It could be that the plume's bottom is cut off by an intervening building roof, but it just seems odd.

528 Racer X  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:37:07pm

re: #517 Honorary Yooper

Photo #3? Maybe, but it's tough to tell. There's a lot of dirt there.

Rage boy lives!

#13

529 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:37:31pm

Iran with North Korean-supplied ICBM's would be a game-changer.
Obama would have to change his strategy from unconditional negotiation to unconditional surrender.
//

530 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:37:42pm

re: #508 FurryOldGuyJeans

You are going to earn the wrath of Media Boy poster, you know (I refuse to name him). ;)

oʇıuƃoɔ

531 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:37:45pm

re: #523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That "rage boy" on #8? Seriously.

Certainly does look like him.

532 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:37:47pm

re: #523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That "rage boy" on #8? Seriously.

Similar beard and face. It could very well be.

533 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:37:53pm

re: #517 Honorary Yooper

Photo #3? Maybe, but it's tough to tell. There's a lot of dirt there.

Here''s the print link

534 Elcid  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:38:06pm

re: #518 Silhouette

Same on the Christmas wish for you, Silhouette

535 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:38:18pm

re: #530 MandyManners

oʇıuƃoɔ

Eeep! You spoke The Name! ;)

536 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:38:32pm

The Rifftrax commentary for Plan 9 is pretty funny

537 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:39:01pm

re: #524 FurryOldGuyJeans

The link you put up, at least for me, only has 136 pictures total with 14 being a map of the area.

Same here.

538 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:39:06pm

re: #533 Thanos

Here''s the print link

That is #3 in the 136 photo series, not #14.

539 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:39:47pm

re: #533 Thanos

Here''s the print link

To my completely untrained eye, it looks like it's still going boom.
If not, it's p-shopped, because the buildings to the sides are totally intact, no dirt, even.

540 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:39:53pm

re: #280 jorline

Thanks, Mandy.

I would be surprised if we have an attorney. I just found out that $800 was pulled for the pre-Trick-Or-Treat Party this year. My wife and I had the party two years ago at our expense...about 150 people attended. I don't like it when money is spent without our knowledge...we don't have annual meeting to review the books, but I guess we should start.

I, for one, would absolutely refuse to live in any place that had a "homeowners's association." Just another enabling mechanism for people who get their jollies minding other people's business.

I live on an acreage smack in the middle of farm land, and it didn't cost me any more than a cheap house in the city would have done.

541 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:39:55pm
542 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:39:57pm

This is trippy:

Pink Floyd Asteroid Impact Clip

543 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:40:05pm

re: #495 jwb7605

I believe they have literally set a new record with the number of running backs on injured reserve at 7.
Shanahan indeed just "plugs a new one in".

Next year will be Cutler's year. He's already where Elway was after 7 years.

Genuflect when you write ELWAY! :)

544 swamprat  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:40:25pm

maybe a fake[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Is that a wattle on his hand?
Two left hands?

Thanos; rightclick/open link

545 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:40:29pm

On a refresh it's number three, appears they are culling photos out.

547 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:41:02pm

re: #496 Thanos

I need some lizard opinions: Pshop or not?
Notice the dirt plume to the right, how it appears to hang above a building when you zoom in.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

I don't know which picture your referring to as the link goes to the first page of yahoo's file but this one is a bit perplexing.

548 traderjoe9  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:41:11pm
549 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:41:23pm

re: #534 Elcid

Same on the Christmas wish for you, Silhouette

I wish.

I hope you and the Mrs. had a Merry Christmas.

550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:41:45pm
551 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:41:51pm

re: #547 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I don't know which picture your referring to as the link goes to the first page of yahoo's file but this one is a bit perplexing.


Yes, that's the one I am questioning

552 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:42:48pm

re: #516 Elcid

Hey, man! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Things are going well for me and the Girlfriend. No ties here. The last time I wore a tie it was to a funeral for one of my co-workers. That's been 2-3 years at least.

While I've got you here, Silhouette was talking about us having a get-together sometime in January. You game?

553 Racer X  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:42:56pm

re: #550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


This the one you saw? For me it was #8. Ain't that Rage Boy?"

Yep. Thats him.

554 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:43:26pm

It could be multiple bombs going off at once, with the plume that appears flattened on the bottom just cut off by an intervening roof-line.

555 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:44:16pm

re: #553 Racer X

Yep. Thats him.

That's not the original Rage boy, he lives in Srinagar, Jammu-Kashmir.

556 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:45:12pm

re: #543 Wyatt Earp

Genuflect when you write ELWAY! :)

If Cutler has the privilege of playing with a back the caliber of Terrell Davis, we'll be changing genuflect idols.

557 Elcid  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:45:13pm

re: #552 Iron Fist

Hey, man! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Things are going well for me and the Girlfriend. No ties here. The last time I wore a tie it was to a funeral for one of my co-workers. That's been 2-3 years at least.

While I've got you here, Silhouette was talking about us having a get-together sometime in January. You game?

Hell ya, dude.

558 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:45:26pm

re: #543 Wyatt Earp

Genuflect when you write ELWAY! :)

well I've seen a bunch of football and I have to say that Elway was one of the best ever QBs....he was a friggin riot to watch in his early years and the ultimate greatest at throwing back to the left when rolling right...I have never yet seen anything like that...before or since....here's a little kiss John....

559 victor_yugo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:45:38pm

re: #533 Thanos

Would there be a mushroom-type billow of smoke with that much brown dirt still in the air from the strike?

Incongruity abounds.

560 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:45:44pm

re: #551 Thanos

Yes, that's the one I am questioning

Now that does look a bit off, looks like a secondary explosion took place.
Gonna drag it into photoshop for a closer looky.

561 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:45:56pm

re: #556 jwb7605

If Cutler has the privilege of playing with a back the caliber of Terrell Davis, we'll be changing genuflect idols.

All you athletic supporters, you! ;)

562 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:47:47pm

Ah....the grandure of a Ed Wood Film

563 akak  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:48:24pm

re: #546 Bloodnok

Well it seems the Jordyptian supply lines are still providing them with vital supplies.

Muahahaha!

Shame the smuggling tunnels only get bombed on one side, really should have all sides closed permanently.

564 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:48:39pm

re: #558 albusteve

well I've seen a bunch of football and I have to say that Elway was one of the best ever QBs....he was a friggin riot to watch in his early years and the ultimate greatest at throwing back to the left when rolling right...I have never yet seen anything like that...before or since....here's a little kiss John....

Win or go home game tonight.. I'm rooting for Denver..We always beat them in the play-offs.. :)

565 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:49:10pm

re: #521 jwb7605

Thanks, all! Yeah, it is intentional. My health took a real header over the past couple of years. Three different doctors asked me if I had a death wish, so I decided to listen to them for a change. This is part of it.

That doesn't mean I like it.

566 swamprat  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:49:12pm

re: #555 Thanos

That's not the original Rage boy, he lives in Srinagar, Jammu-Kashmir.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

I'm ready to call shenanigans!

[Link: unclemeat.files.wordpress.com...]

I don't know; maybe he has a brother!

567 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:49:43pm

re: #563 akak

Shame the smuggling tunnels only get bombed on one side, really should have all sides closed permanently.

I know. It annoys me that there is as many as one left. Hope the IDS got to it.

568 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:50:00pm

re: #542 Noam Sayin'

This is trippy:



Pink Floyd Asteroid Impact Clip

That would really fuck up your day.

569 victor_yugo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:50:14pm

re: #566 swamprat

I don't know; maybe he has a brother!

"If you've seen Juan, you've seen Jamal."

570 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:50:20pm

re: #556 jwb7605

Agreed wholeheartedly.

re: #558 albusteve

well I've seen a bunch of football and I have to say that Elway was one of the best ever QBs....he was a friggin riot to watch in his early years and the ultimate greatest at throwing back to the left when rolling right...I have never yet seen anything like that...before or since....here's a little kiss John....

His stats are amazing, and if they had a running game in the mid-80's they would have won more Super Bowls, IMO. Glad he went out on top.

hear that, Mr. Favre?

571 debutaunt  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:50:43pm

re: #471 FurryOldGuyJeans

p

572 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:50:45pm

re: #557 Elcid

Cool! I think there are a number of Tennessee posters now. We'll have a big party!

:-)

573 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:50:47pm

re: #567 Bloodnok

ugh! IDF. PIMF

574 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:50:58pm

re: #564 HoosierHoops

Win or go home game tonight.. I'm rooting for Denver..We always beat them in the play-offs.. :)

Yeah, you do. Dammit.

575 Elcid  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:51:05pm

Fist, Silh

Would be great to see y'all, again. Just let me know...OH yeah forgot about New Year.

Happy New Year, to both of you.

Silhouette

As to Christmas. Best advice I've ever been given...If you open your eyes in the mornings, you've won the day, the rest is bullshit.

576 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:51:50pm
577 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:52:05pm

re: #570 Wyatt Earp

Agreed wholeheartedly.

re: #558 albusteve

His stats are amazing, and if they had a running game in the mid-80's they would have won more Super Bowls, IMO. Glad he went out on top.

hear that, Mr. Favre?

Maybe Brett could play for the Lions next year..

578 Elcid  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:52:17pm

re: #572 Iron Fist

Cool! I think there are a number of Tennessee posters now. We'll have a big party!

:-)


Awwwright. Cool Beans.

579 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:52:36pm

re: #577 HoosierHoops

Maybe Brett could play for the Lions next year..

Now that's just plain mean . . .

580 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:53:05pm

re: #558 albusteve

anecdotal...Elway's high school receivers used to stand ten yards apart from each other and throw the at each other as hard as they could...trying to get used to his thirty yard route passes.

581 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:53:19pm

re: #579 Wyatt Earp

Now that's just plain mean . . .

To whom, Favre, or the Lions?

582 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:54:00pm

re: #570 Wyatt Earp

Agreed wholeheartedly.

re: #558 albusteve

His stats are amazing, and if they had a running game in the mid-80's they would have won more Super Bowls, IMO. Glad he went out on top.

hear that, Mr. Favre?

Elway had only one problem...he couldnt beat Cleveland

583 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:54:50pm

re: #581 Honorary Yooper

To whom, Favre, or the Lions?

Yes! :)

re: #582 albusteve

Elway had only one problem...he couldnt beat Cleveland

Do you not remember "The Drive?"

584 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:54:58pm

re: #580 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

anecdotal...Elway's high school receivers used to stand ten yards apart from each other and throw the at each other as hard as they could...trying to get used to his thirty yard route passes.

He just had a cannon for an arm..

585 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:55:15pm

Just finished "Plan 9...". Never seen it before.

Now to finish my plan to explode the Sun one photon at a time.

586 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:55:31pm

re: #557 Elcid

I don't know why but, I watched your video. I'm seething now.

587 swamprat[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:55:38pm
588 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:55:49pm

re: #580 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

anecdotal...Elway's high school receivers used to stand ten yards apart from each other and throw the at each other as hard as they could...trying to get used to his thirty yard route passes.

when they say cannon they're talking about Elway....agreed...best arm and better than Namath

589 Lyric  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:56:02pm

re: #407 Bobibutu

Sounds like Gaza is gonna be under new management before the Big Big O takes office.

590 n in wi  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:56:35pm

re: #577 HoosierHoops
If the Jets trade Farve to anyone in the NFC Cenral it will cost them about 4 high round draft picks

591 n in wi  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:57:40pm

re: #590 n in wi

If the Jets trade Farve to anyone in the NFC Cenral it will cost them about 4 high round draft picks

That would be NFC North

592 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:57:40pm

re: #590 n in wi

If the Jets trade Farve to anyone in the NFC Cenral it will cost them about 4 high round draft picks

Trade him to Minnesota. The Packers fans' heads will explode.

593 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:58:20pm

re: #587 swamprat

The Real Rage Boy interviewed, check the nose and eyes against the suspect ...

594 n in wi  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:58:41pm

re: #592 Wyatt Earp

Ok, If we get A.Pederson

595 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:59:01pm

Thanos still about?

596 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:59:05pm

re: #583 Wyatt Earp

Do you not remember "The Drive?"

I dont even need to open the link...good catch...I like the way he stayed competitive his whole career and finished with those rings...great story and good for the Holy NFL....remember the one Bowl where he helicoptered in at the pylon for a TD?...cannot be denied!

597 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 4:59:14pm

re: #595 DEZes

Yeppers

598 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:00:04pm

re: #589 Lyric

Sounds like Gaza is gonna be under new management before the Big Big O takes office.

If Israel thumps Gaza hard enough, Golan and the West Bank will mind their manners for awhile. Everyone tries to pacify a crazy monkey with a gun.

599 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:00:40pm

re: #551 Thanos

Yes, that's the one I am questioning

It looks like two, maybe three, different events - managed pictorially.

How'd this guy get the picture(pun intended)? That to me is problem #1.

600 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:01:34pm

Nickelodeon has a new massive multi-player game. The Big Green Help Global Challenge.

You fight the forces of global warming and try to lower your carbon footprint.

I guess it is important to indoctrinate them early. Can someone hand me a barf bag?

601 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:02:35pm

re: #599 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I am thinking it's possibly a fluke moment, mulitple explosions in different areas with an old smoke cloud, or it's several photos of a series of explosions composited together?

602 Honorary Yooper  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:02:37pm

re: #592 Wyatt Earp

Trade him to Minnesota. The Packers fans' heads will explode.

LOL! That would be the delight of the Bears fans 'round these parts. Seeing the Vikings get Favre, and watching Packer fans heads explode.

603 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:03:01pm

re: #600 Silhouette

Nickelodeon has a new massive multi-player game. The Big Green Help Global Challenge.

You fight the forces of global warming and try to lower your carbon footprint.

I guess it is important to indoctrinate them early. Can someone hand me a barf bag?

Must be SpongeBob. He looks like a hippie. Plankton is an evil conservative.

604 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:03:04pm

re: #600 Silhouette

Nickelodeon has a new massive multi-player game. The Big Green Help Global Challenge.

You fight the forces of global warming and try to lower your carbon footprint.

I guess it is important to indoctrinate them early. Can someone hand me a barf bag?

I think I will go burn some tires tomorrow...

605 swamprat  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:03:05pm

Rageboy has big ears, and his upper teeth usually show...

606 victor_yugo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:03:13pm

re: #600 Silhouette

Nickelodeon has a new massive multi-player game. The Big Green Help Global Challenge.

You fight the forces of global warming and try to lower your carbon footprint.

I have a better idea for lowering the carbon footprint: turn the damn thing off, go outside and play.

607 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:04:17pm

re: #606 victor_yugo

But the sun will get on them.

608 Muadib  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:04:35pm

"As long as they can think, we'll have our problems. But those that we're using cannot think. They are the dead...."

There's a 0bama voter joke in there somewhere.

609 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:04:38pm

re: #607 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But the sun will get on them.

SKIN CANCER!

610 Bobibutu  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:05:04pm

re: #589 Lyric

Sounds like Gaza is gonna be under new management before the Big Big O takes office.

Change! - we can believe in. I hope so.

611 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:05:09pm

re: #607 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But the sun will get on them.

it's the SUN!...stay away from the SUN!

612 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:05:19pm

re: #609 Wyatt Earp

zakry

613 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:05:57pm

re: #600 Silhouette

Nickelodeon has a new massive multi-player game. The Big Green Help Global Challenge.

You fight the forces of global warming and try to lower your carbon footprint.

I guess it is important to indoctrinate them early. Can someone hand me a barf bag?

I'd let The Kid play Grand Theft Auto before I'd let him play that.

614 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:06:31pm

re: #606 victor_yugo

I have a better idea for lowering the carbon footprint: turn the damn thing off, go outside and play.

I forbid Silh Jr. just now. He pitched a fit, for a second, and when I was unmoved, played on the piano instead.

615 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:06:41pm

re: #597 Thanos

Yeppers


I am no expert in explosions, but looking at the perspective of the buildings, that blast must be several city blocks in diameter.
Thats a huge blast, What I do know is, if its a photochop job, its not done by an amateur. the lighting looks right but, the resolution is bad.
Whats your thoughts, maybe I am missing something else.

616 Floral Giraffe  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:06:47pm

re: #417 avanti

What a great story! Thanks for posting that!

617 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:07:08pm

re: #606 victor_yugo

I try to maximize my carbon footprint. That shows how important, even special, I am. I'm trying to follow in the Gorecle's footsteps. First I need a much bigger house...

I already need a bailout to be able to afford a Green lifestyle in the image of the Gorecle. I don't even have a private jet.

618 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:07:11pm

Pakistan paper is disappointed with BHO...

Obama’s silence on Israeli airstrikes disappoints many

WASHINGTON: President–elect Barack Obama blew the first opportunity that had come his way to show that unlike his predecessors, he was going to adopt a more even-handed approach to the Palestine question by choosing to keep quiet after savage Israeli airstrikes across Gaza.

Obama who was expected by people in Arab and Muslim countries to turn his back on earlier American administrations that have supported Israel, right or wrong, could only have caused widespread disappointment among those who were hopeful that he would be different. If his first reaction to the Israeli outrage is any indication, it is clear that he is going to be as enthusiastic in his support of Israel as his predecessors.

619 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:07:44pm

re: #604 David IV of Georgia

I think I will go burn some tires tomorrow...

Actually, I think it is wrong to pollute, but not because of the socialist agenda for world reorganization based on the farce known as "climate change".

620 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:07:44pm

re: #618 NJDhockeyfan

Pakistan paper is disappointed with BHO...

Obama’s silence on Israeli airstrikes disappoints many

We're disappointed in him, too . . .

621 Shug  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:08:39pm

re: #600 Silhouette

Nickelodeon has a new massive multi-player game. The Big Green Help Global Challenge.

You fight the forces of global warming and try to lower your carbon footprint.

I guess it is important to indoctrinate them early. Can someone hand me a barf bag?

Ironic that it's too cold for many kids to go outside and play so they have to stay inside and learn all about global warming

622 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:09:09pm

re: #618 NJDhockeyfan

Ha! They're upset that he only voted "present."

623 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:09:18pm

re: #613 MandyManners

I'd let The Kid play Grand Theft Auto before I'd let him play that.

Leisure Suit Larry beats that game too.

624 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:09:18pm

re: #615 DEZes

I am no expert in explosions, but looking at the perspective of the buildings, that blast must be several city blocks in diameter.
Thats a huge blast, What I do know is, if its a photochop job, its not done by an amateur. the lighting looks right but, the resolution is bad.
Whats your thoughts, maybe I am missing something else.

Look upthread at the multiple explosions composited together theory. If it is one explosion that wide, then a building that should be in pieces is in the middle of the upthrown dirt?

625 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:09:31pm

re: #613 MandyManners

Hey, now! Grand Theft Auto teaches you important life skills. Like picking up hookers and, of course, stealing cars.

You wouldn't want to stunt his growth.

626 lawhawk  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:09:38pm

Oh, well this changes everything. A Palestinian infant died in one of the latest Israeli airstrikes. I guess Israel must call off the war, even as Hamas continues firing the kassams. /UN, useful idiots, Arab league, etc.

I guess we should all ignore the terrorists use of civilians as human shields - hiding behind women and children. I guess we should ignore the terrorists firing kassams and mortars throughout the entire duration of the hudna.

The world finds its voice when Israel strikes back, and yet couldn't muster even a weakly worded retort when Israel endured hundreds of kassams and mortars during the hudna.

Is it sad that civilians are dying in the fighting? Yes, but all the blame resides squarely on Hamas, who chose this outcome by refusing peace and seeking unending war with Israel. It is their ideology. It is their indoctrination. It is their very existence that is based on unending hatred of Israel.

627 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:09:40pm

re: #618 NJDhockeyfan

Pakistan paper is disappointed with BHO...

Obama’s silence on Israeli airstrikes disappoints many

indeed...for those droolers some Islamoblab gives them an Islamostiffy....pffft!

628 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:10:01pm
629 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:10:14pm

re: #623 David IV of Georgia

Leisure Suit Larry beats that game too.

What's that?

630 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:10:30pm
631 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:10:43pm

re: #625 Iron Fist

Hey, now! Grand Theft Auto teaches you important life skills. Like picking up hookers and, of course, stealing cars.

You wouldn't want to stunt his growth.

I figure some things can wait.

632 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:11:01pm

re: #630 taxfreekiller

grumpy

grumpier

633 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:11:01pm
634 victor_yugo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:11:03pm

re: #623 David IV of Georgia

Leisure Suit Larry beats that game too.

Let's not forget Leather Goddesses of Phobos!

635 Jimmah  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:11:11pm

re: #601 Thanos
I think it's real, if a little funny looking. Doesn't have the trademark obvious lumbering clone tool stomp marks all over the picture that would normally identify a pallywood photo-job.

636 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:11:20pm
637 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:11:23pm

re: #629 MandyManners

What's that?

DON'T ASK!

638 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:11:55pm

re: #633 taxfreekiller

grump, grump, grump,

oh noez...wheres my airbags?

639 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:12:08pm

re: #626 lawhawk

I wonder how many rocket launchers Hamas had to position near nurseries before they got what they wanted?

640 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:12:35pm
IAF uses new US-supplied smart bomb
Defense officials said Sunday that Israel would, however, not hesitate to target the homes of civilians who protected Hamas terrorists throughout the operation.

There should be no safe shelters for the Islamofascist Terrorist Entities, who must all be hunted down and killed like the vermin they are.

641 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:12:41pm

re: #626 lawhawk

I am guessing we can expect gruesome pictures in the feeds within the next hour. Who will puppet the bodies this time? Green Helmet guy should be in Lebanon, so don't expect him to show up.

642 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:12:55pm
643 n in wi  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:13:02pm

re: #618 NJDhockeyfan

The now growing "Disappointed in Obama list"
The left
Arabs
Media seeking easy access
The African continent
waffle makers
Tobacco Companies {other than the one that makes Kools}
Blago
And it ain't even January

644 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:13:23pm

re: #637 Wyatt Earp

DON'T ASK!

I'm asking.

645 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:13:32pm

re: #622 Silhouette

If we are lucky, Obama will just continue to vote "present". The truth is that America needs good, strong leadership right now, and neither party gave us that as a choice this election. Given his rhetoric, though, I have to hope that Obama won't try to actually do anything.

He doesn't have a record of strong leadership to date.

646 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:13:57pm

re: #624 Thanos

Look upthread at the multiple explosions composited together theory. If it is one explosion that wide, then a building that should be in pieces is in the middle of the upthrown dirt?


Yeah I posted it looked like more than one bang upthread, The lack of flying rubble has me a little thrown off as well.
I would love to get my hands on a higher res pic, regardless it just looks wrong.

647 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:14:28pm

re: #629 MandyManners

What's that?

Basically 16 color sophomoric softcore for your 286 MHz pc in the early 90s.

648 Kenneth  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:14:31pm

re: #618 NJDhockeyfan

They probably thought "change" meant it's cool to murder Jews now.

649 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:14:37pm

re: #644 MandyManners

I'm asking.

Here ya go.

650 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:14:52pm

re: #645 Iron Fist

If we are lucky, Obama will just continue to vote "present". The truth is that America needs good, strong leadership right now, and neither party gave us that as a choice this election. Given his rhetoric, though, I have to hope that Obama won't try to actually do anything.

He doesn't have a record of strong leadership to date.

reasonable leadership right now would be to simply STFU...I'm impressed with the Oboy....

651 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:14:55pm
652 Alouette  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:15:05pm

re: #626 lawhawk

Oh, well this changes everything. A Palestinian infant died in one of the latest Israeli airstrikes. I guess Israel must call off the war, even as Hamas continues firing the kassams. /UN, useful idiots, Arab league, etc.

"Gaza Health Ministry official said"

Oh well, then it must be a pure true fact!

/don't Gaza Health Ministry officials always tell the truth?

653 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:15:13pm

re: #635 Jimmah

I think it's real, if a little funny looking. Doesn't have the trademark obvious lumbering clone tool stomp marks all over the picture that would normally identify a pallywood photo-job.

No, not a clone tool job, but notice the discontinuities in the colorstripes in the composite as you zoom in. you can see the lines created by feeding the photo over the wire, but there are definite color discontinuities, and the physics just seems off.

654 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:16:09pm
655 akak  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:16:21pm

re: #618 NJDhockeyfan

Pakistan paper is disappointed with BHO...

Obama’s silence on Israeli airstrikes disappoints many

[Link: dawn.com...]


Israel massacres 225 in Gaza savagery

Don't send another penny, nevermind ten billion$.

656 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:17:57pm

re: #491 Bloodnok

You mean Favureh threw picks in a must-win game? I don't belieeeeeve it!

/


He just proved that the Packers were right in going with Rodgers.

657 David Simon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:18:24pm

Ask liberals if they'd support a cut in any federal government spending, chances are they'll say, "Yeah: defense." The Japanese seem to know this:

The Japanese government had been trying to persuade the United States to sell it F-22 Raptors to replace its own aging F-15 fleet, despite Washington's reluctance. Tokyo, however, is now abandoning the plan amid signs that US President-elect Barack Obama's new administration may halt production of the aircraft, the Daily Yomiuri said, quoting government sources.

[Link: www.newstin.com...]

658 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:18:24pm

re: #647 Bloodnok

re: #649 Wyatt Earp

Thanks!

659 Silhouette  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:18:29pm

re: #640 Spare O'Lake

Defense officials said Sunday that Israel would, however, not hesitate to target the homes of civilians who protected Hamas terrorists throughout the operation.

People who voluntarily provide hideouts for Hamas are not "civilians."

660 Thanos  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:18:59pm

re: #655 akak

Don't send another penny, nevermind ten billion$.

Right now Pakistan's just happy to have anything in the news to take the focus off the Mumbai attacks.

661 Bloodnok  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:19:12pm

re: #656 summergurl

He just proved that the Packers were right in going with Rodgers.

They sure did. It was time.

662 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:19:26pm

the Speechless One is doing the right thing...seriously...but probably for all the wrong reasons...his cred is tanking already...he's in a corner shitting himself...what a perfect situation for the next short while...

663 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:20:26pm
664 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:21:17pm

re: #656 summergurl

He just proved that the Packers were right in going with Rodgers.

you gotta give these guys some time and I predict Rodgers will become a top notch QB....he moves well for the most part, is strong and acurate and is coachable....or so I've heard

665 akak  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:21:39pm

re: #660 Thanos

Right now Pakistan's just happy to have anything in the news to take the focus off the Mumbai attacks.


That won't last long, jihad joe loves the press.

666 Elcid  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:21:43pm

re: #586 MandyManners

I don't know why but, I watched your video. I'm seething now.

Everyone should be seething, enough to...well, can't type it here, Sir Charles would only delete it.

667 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:23:21pm

re: #657 David Simon

Ask liberals if they'd support a cut in any federal government spending, chances are they'll say, "Yeah: defense." The Japanese seem to know this:

[Link: www.newstin.com...]

I love the sound of military jets. They are the sound of freedom.

668 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:23:32pm

re: #618 NJDhockeyfan

Pakistan paper is disappointed with BHO...

Obama’s silence on Israeli airstrikes disappoints many

Pakistan can go fuck itself and I hope BHO tells em the same thing.

669 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:23:42pm
670 melinwy  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:25:24pm

re: #548 traderjoe9

awesome speech, thanks for the link

671 n in wi  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:25:52pm

re: #664 albusteve
You've heard right. He is a good decision maker with an accurate arm. The Packers are probably the best and 10 team in the league. They are also the youngest. Lost 4 or 5 games by less than 4 points.

672 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:26:25pm

The One is still mum on taking a position on Israel...

HONOLULU (AP) - President-elect Barack Obama is continuing to vacation in Hawaii, where he's been monitoring global events, including the situation in Gaza.

An aide says Obama received an intelligence briefing today. He also plans to talk with his incoming national security adviser, Gen. James Jones, and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, his nominee for secretary of state.

The aide says Obama appreciates the information the Bush administration is sharing with him. The aide requested anonymity because the Obama team is refraining from comment, saying the U.S. has only one president at a time.

Lets hope he does the right thing...I won't hold my breath.

673 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:26:41pm

re: #596 albusteve

I dont even need to open the link...good catch...I like the way he stayed competitive his whole career and finished with those rings...great story and good for the Holy NFL....remember the one Bowl where he helicoptered in at the pylon for a TD?...cannot be denied!

Actually, it was any team Marty Schottenheimer coached.
Started with the Browns, ended with the Chiefs.

And speaking of Marty, I saw the talking-head-pundits speculate that K.C. might try to get him back for next year. Little chance, but lots of interest.

674 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:27:24pm

re: #657 David Simon

You wouldn't want the US Air Force to be better than everything else in the World, would you? It's just not fair. Give Obama a chance. I'm sure he'll get our military down to third world levels of equipment as quickly as possible.

675 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:27:53pm

re: #671 n in wi

You've heard right. He is a good decision maker with an accurate arm. The Packers are probably the best and 10 team in the league. They are also the youngest. Lost 4 or 5 games by less than 4 points.

Packers are the youngest team in the NFL. They are going to be a force in the league.

676 Jimmah  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:27:54pm

re: #653 Thanos

I think that smoke may have been hanging there a while, getting blown this way and that by the wind, also it seems to have a lot of jpeg artifacts such as the cubic distortions you see when zoomed in. I suppose it's possible it could have been mucked around with, but it doesn't seem like a compelling case to me.

677 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:27:57pm

re: #570 Wyatt Earp

Agreed wholeheartedly.

re: #558 albusteve


His stats are amazing, and if they had a running game in the mid-80's they would have won more Super Bowls, IMO. Glad he went out on top.

hear that, Mr. Favre?


If he had stayed retired last year he would have been going out on top - not now - And it's a damn shame, he was the best but he couldn't admit his time was over.

678 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:27:58pm

re: #667 FrogMarch

I love the sound of military jets. They are the sound of freedom.

earlier this year three 16s came floating down the river heading to Kirkland here in ABQ...big ass tanker a bit in the rear....in a nice tight V they just took their time and slowly buzzed through the valley....and LOUD!...oh yeah...thank you USAF!....

679 Dave the.....  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:28:01pm

As a Packer fan and part owner (one share of stock), I have to day that GB did the right thing. Now we have Rodgers for the next few years. He'll do fine.

680 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:28:02pm

re: #659 Silhouette

People who voluntarily provide hideouts for Hamas are not "civilians."


Some of them could probably be classified as unwilling hostages. Which is why the IDF does its best to limit collateral damage.

681 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:28:34pm

re: #672 NJDhockeyfan

The One is still mum on taking a position on Israel...

Lets hope he does the right thing...I won't hold my breath.

The outcome of this latest Israel-Hamas dance might greatly affect his actions with Iran ... or at least his "special cabinet pick" for the Iran situation.

682 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:30:13pm

re: #660 Thanos Thanos, what's your take on Pakistan moving troops from the northwest frontier to the India border? Posturing or preparation?

683 n in wi  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:30:16pm

re: #677 summergurl

If he had stayed retired last year he would have been going out on top - not now - And it's a damn shame, he was the best but he couldn't admit his time was over.


Brett Farve = Senator Robert Byrd

684 Dave the.....  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:30:32pm

I think Obama just voted "present" on the mideast.

685 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:31:24pm

re: #360 NJDhockeyfan

Well. my opinion of Annie L. Just went in the toilet.

686 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:31:27pm

re: #671 n in wi

You've heard right. He is a good decision maker with an accurate arm. The Packers are probably the best and 10 team in the league. They are also the youngest. Lost 4 or 5 games by less than 4 points.

there you have it...I'm older....I'm still patient....Bradshaw was a notorius bust until he won four Bowls...two against very very good Cowboy teams...jus sayin

687 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:32:02pm

re: #683 n in wi

Brett Farve = Senator Robert Byrd

he just realized at the last minute this year that all he had to fall back on was Wrangler jean commercials..

688 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:32:54pm

re: #673 jwb7605

Actually, it was any team Marty Schottenheimer coached.
Started with the Browns, ended with the Chiefs.

And speaking of Marty, I saw the talking-head-pundits speculate that K.C. might try to get him back for next year. Little chance, but lots of interest.

hahaha!...a mummy for a head coach....desperation does not become an NFL team....

689 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:33:59pm

re: #677 summergurl

If he had stayed retired last year he would have been going out on top - not now - And it's a damn shame, he was the best but he couldn't admit his time was over.

he's a cheesehead...whatd'ya expect?

690 HoosierHoops  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:34:24pm

re: #688 albusteve

hahaha!...a mummy for a head coach....desperation does not become an NFL team....

where is Art Shell when you need him?

691 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:35:01pm

re: #683 n in wi

I don't know this Brett Farve. Is he some kind of hard core racist? Comparing anyone to the Ku Klux Klan recruiter seems pretty harsh.

692 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:35:08pm

re: #680 Jim in Virginia

Some of them could probably be classified as unwilling hostages. Which is why the IDF does its best to limit collateral damage.

Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support this claim?
Hamas is a democratically elected terrorist entity, and has until now been very popular with the bloodthirsty terrorist population at large.

693 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:35:09pm

re: #678 albusteve

earlier this year three 16s came floating down the river heading to Kirkland here in ABQ...big ass tanker a bit in the rear....in a nice tight V they just took their time and slowly buzzed through the valley....and LOUD!...oh yeah...thank you USAF!....

wow. Floating down the river... what river? (that would have to be one big river)

I love it. I love hearing them - I love seeing them. They almost bring tears to my eyes. Such genius technology.
One of my clients was lucky enough to ride in one. He buzzed his own house in an F-16. I was wicked cool.

694 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:35:29pm

re: #682 Jim in Virginia

Thanos, what's your take on Pakistan moving troops from the northwest frontier to the India border? Posturing or preparation?

Preparations, they are scared that India is going to use this as a pretext for invading Kashmir. Pakistan and India have been locked in their own near nuclear cold war for some time now. This incident could hot that up really really fast.

695 David Simon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:36:32pm

re: #674 Iron Fist

You wouldn't want the US Air Force to be better than everything else in the World, would you? It's just not fair. Give Obama a chance. I'm sure he'll get our military down to third world levels of equipment as quickly as possible.

Yep, and he and SPEEA will have have Boeing down to GM levels of profitability just as fast.

696 Joo-LiZ  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:37:07pm

re: #692 Spare O'Lake

Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support this claim?
Hamas is a democratically elected terrorist entity, and has until now been very popular with the bloodthirsty terrorist population at large.

I'd disagree... here is a CBC (of all things) video from Sept 1, 2008, doing a good job explaining the Gazan situation.

I am with the camp that says many Palestinians side with Hamas simply because they feel they have nowhere else to turn, but would rather not be under their rule.

697 summergurl  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:38:02pm

re: #671 n in wi

You've heard right. He is a good decision maker with an accurate arm. The Packers are probably the best and 10 team in the league. They are also the youngest. Lost 4 or 5 games by less than 4 points.

I think it was 7 games with less than 4 points but who's counting.

698 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:40:24pm

re: #693 FrogMarch

wow. Floating down the river... what river? (that would have to be one big river)

I love it. I love hearing them - I love seeing them. They almost bring tears to my eyes. Such genius technology.
One of my clients was lucky enough to ride in one. He buzzed his own house in an F-16. I was wicked cool.

the mighty Rio Grande!....we get alot of way traffic here at Kirtland because of the location....guys coming in for fuel or a stopover for one reason or another...and there are several Ospreys out there...not sure who they are but they are way cool to watch fly around...15s are pretty potent but people too easily forget the potential of the 16s...a fine and deadly bird...

699 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:41:32pm

BRONCOS SCORE A TD!
One of the afternoon radio guys postulated that if the Broncos could score on their first two drives and hold San Diego to one score, the Broncos would win the game.

We'll see.
Neither team will go far, in any case.
And the extra point is no good.
6-3, not 7-3 now.

700 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:41:42pm

re: #625 Iron Fist

Hey, now! Grand Theft Auto teaches you important life skills. Like picking up hookers and, of course, stealing cars.

You wouldn't want to stunt his growth.

If you kill the hooker, you don't have to pay...
A coworker who likes that game told me that one. I never saw the draw...
I'm too busy killing the Flood and the Covenant...

701 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:42:47pm

re: #699 jwb7605

BRONCOS SCORE A TD!
One of the afternoon radio guys postulated that if the Broncos could score on their first two drives and hold San Diego to one score, the Broncos would win the game.

We'll see.
Neither team will go far, in any case.
And the extra point is no good.
6-3, not 7-3 now.

So what.... San Diego drew first blood.... ;p

702 DEZes  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:43:31pm

re: #676 Jimmah

I think that smoke may have been hanging there a while, getting blown this way and that by the wind, also it seems to have a lot of jpeg artifacts such as the cubic distortions you see when zoomed in. I suppose it's possible it could have been mucked around with, but it doesn't seem like a compelling case to me.

I have to agree, its also quit possible more than one jet slapped a few bombs on the same target, hence the multiple explosions brought up earlier in the thread, strange looking yes.

703 FlagPony  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:44:09pm

re: #700 David IV of Georgia

hey have you played call of duty 4?
the ac 130 gunship section is unbelievable!

704 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:45:34pm

re: #690 HoosierHoops

where is Art Shell when you need him?

he's in that box right over there...

705 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:45:42pm

re: #437 MandyManners

Ernest T. Bass is on TVLAND!

Ernest T Bass for Secretary of Defense...:)

706 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:45:48pm

re: #701 doriangrey

So what.... San Diego drew first blood.... ;p

Missing an extra point is always fatal.
Karma.

707 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:46:08pm

re: #706 jwb7605

Missing an extra point is always fatal.
Karma.

yup

708 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:46:12pm

re: #601 Thanos

In the fore-front the orange stuff is plain weird. Where'd that come from? Not from the HE explosion in the far back ie., the "mushroom" cloud. Look at the stuff shooting up in the air, that is not - from my perspective - ground effect(shock wave/sympathetic explosions) from the background explosion.

...mind you, I don't do photo intel but I try. :)

709 David IV of Georgia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:48:05pm

re: #703 FlagPony

hey have you played call of duty 4?
the ac 130 gunship section is unbelievable!

Would be nice, but I'd have to buy a new computer.

710 jwb7605  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:48:34pm

The next thread is worth checking out.
Charles has added Ajax code that allows e-mailing of the topic if you've a mind to.
Works great.

711 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:49:24pm

re: #696 Joo-LiZ

I'd disagree... here is a CBC (of all things) video from Sept 1, 2008, doing a good job explaining the Gazan situation.

I am with the camp that says many Palestinians side with Hamas simply because they feel they have nowhere else to turn, but would rather not be under their rule.

Don't confuse the Hamas-Fatah power struggle with a lack of majority popular support for Hamas. Hamas has plenty of safe houses and no need to force anyone to house them. Any place where the Hamas Entity can be found is a legitimate target. Period.

712 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:50:08pm
713 FlagPony  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:50:23pm

re: #709 David IV of Georgia

i've got a 360 and just that game, that section would be worth getting one for!

714 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:51:35pm
715 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:52:28pm

re: #705 Dustyvet

Ernest T Bass for Secretary of Defense...:)

At the moment he's over at Iran's Embassy with a sack of rocks...

716 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:53:09pm
717 Jimmah  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:53:39pm

re: #702 DEZes

I have to agree, its also quit possible more than one jet slapped a few bombs on the same target, hence the multiple explosions brought up earlier in the thread, strange looking yes.

Yes there are clearly two different explosions in the picture as well.

Gotta go.bbl

718 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:54:47pm

Hamas Legalizes Crucifixion Of Christians


[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

719 kcladderman  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:55:07pm

re: #673 jwb7605

GM not coach though.

720 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:55:37pm

re: #698 albusteve

the mighty Rio Grande!....we get alot of way traffic here at Kirtland because of the location....guys coming in for fuel or a stopover for one reason or another...and there are several Ospreys out there...not sure who they are but they are way cool to watch fly around...15s are pretty potent but people too easily forget the potential of the 16s...a fine and deadly bird...

I was thinking it must be the Rio Grande. and a mighty river it is!
My client was on some sort of a wait list to ride with an F-16 pilot. He's a big guy and they made him wear a special suit that sucked him in. Then he had to go through all sorts of training first. He said he didn't notice much - he was almost sick the entire time. They "pulled a few G's". They took off from Buckley, flew up to Northern Co, then onto Rock springs WY and looped back - all in like 20 minutes. Insane the speed. I was on the ground with his wife and we watched the F-16 fly by. It was so amazing. He was low so the speed was incredible to witness. *zoooom*

721 David Simon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:55:41pm

re: #696 Joo-LiZ

I am with the camp that says many Palestinians side with Hamas simply because they feel they have nowhere else to turn, but would rather not be under their rule.

Ver Vaist? And what difference does it make? Israel can't absorb them, and their Arab "brothers" won't absorb them. So they'll continue to suffer unless and until they revolt. (That is, if they really want to; color me skeptical.)

722 Teacake!  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:55:43pm

Thanks to the internet, turns out that the old woman I met in 84 really was Vampira! She told me her name was Helen, so I was never sure if she was who she said she was or an old nutty woman. lol She lived in a tiny hole in the wall filthy cottage in Hollywood. She was really funny too. Met her at Al's Bar and she was telling me about her junk shop on Melrose in the old days and a friend of mine was doing a rummage sale a few months later in the Fairfax High parking lot, Vampira was a friend of hers and was selling her stuff too. Anyhow, I only just this week found out she died. And Helen really was her after all. Guess her birth name was just too hard to pronounce or something.

723 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:56:48pm

re: #692 Spare O'Lake Yes, a majority of Gazans support Hamas. Every one in Gaza knew that if Hamas kept firing rockets, eventually the IDF would retaliate.
I doubt that Hamas asks residents for permission before putting likely targets in civilian neighborhoods. What's the anticipated life span for anyone who objects?
My point is that the IDF - and the US Army, too- make a distinction between armed combatants and civilians. Hamas/ Hizbollah/ Fatah do not.

724 FlagPony  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 5:57:19pm

re: #709 David IV of Georgia

725 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:00:23pm

Damn it... went to put my laundry in the drier and the charges scored again... ;p

726 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:00:52pm

re: #722 Teacake!

Thanks to the internet, turns out that the old woman I met in 84 really was Vampira! She told me her name was Helen, so I was never sure if she was who she said she was or an old nutty woman. lol She lived in a tiny hole in the wall filthy cottage in Hollywood. She was really funny too. Met her at Al's Bar and she was telling me about her junk shop on Melrose in the old days and a friend of mine was doing a rummage sale a few months later in the Fairfax High parking lot, Vampira was a friend of hers and was selling her stuff too. Anyhow, I only just this week found out she died. And Helen really was her after all. Guess her birth name was just too hard to pronounce or something.

Maila Nurmi (1922–2008), a 1950s TV horror hostess and star of Plan 9 From Outer Space who performed under the name "Vampira"

727 Salem  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:01:10pm

re: #722 Teacake!

Wow, cool...

728 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:01:36pm

re: #725 doriangrey

Damn it... went to put my laundry in the drier and the charges scored again... ;p

And it looks like they are going to score again... ;)

729 Dustyvet  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:03:00pm

re: #726 Dustyvet

Maila Nurmi (1922–2008), a 1950s TV horror hostess and star of Plan 9 From Outer Space who performed under the name "Vampira"

Born as Maila Elizabeth Syrjäniemi

730 avanti  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:03:54pm

re: #618 NJDhockeyfan

Pakistan paper is disappointed with BHO...

Obama’s silence on Israeli airstrikes disappoints many

Even if he did disagree with the administration on Hamas, which there is no indication of, he knows to stay quite while he's just President elect.

731 albusteve  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:05:10pm

re: #720 FrogMarch

I was thinking it must be the Rio Grande. and a mighty river it is!
My client was on some sort of a wait list to ride with an F-16 pilot. He's a big guy and they made him wear a special suit that sucked him in. Then he had to go through all sorts of training first. He said he didn't notice much - he was almost sick the entire time. They "pulled a few G's". They took off from Buckley, flew up to Northern Co, then onto Rock springs WY and looped back - all in like 20 minutes. Insane the speed. I was on the ground with his wife and we watched the F-16 fly by. It was so amazing. He was low so the speed was incredible to witness. *zoooom*

i'd try it anyday....

732 Jim in Virginia  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:06:25pm

re: #721 David Simon

Ver Vaist? And what difference does it make? Israel can't absorb them, and their Arab "brothers" won't absorb them. So they'll continue to suffer unless and until they revolt. (That is, if they really want to; color me skeptical.)

It's a real tragedy. Israel absorbed millions of refugees and immigrants from Arab countries, the USSR and elsewhere, and found jobs and housing for them.
The Saudis and the West have given the Palestinians millions of dollars but no one in the Arab world wants them to leave the refugee camps; if they did the Arabs could not blame the Jews for their misery. They're just pawns.

733 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:10:11pm

re: #732 Jim in Virginia

It's a real tragedy. Israel absorbed millions of refugees and immigrants from Arab countries, the USSR and elsewhere, and found jobs and housing for them.
The Saudis and the West have given the Palestinians millions of dollars but no one in the Arab world wants them to leave the refugee camps; if they did the Arabs could not blame the Jews for their misery. They're just pawns.

A lot of things the Palestinians are pawns is not one of them, they are more than willing accomplices.

734 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:12:59pm

re: #723 Jim in Virginia

Yes, a majority of Gazans support Hamas. Every one in Gaza knew that if Hamas kept firing rockets, eventually the IDF would retaliate.
I doubt that Hamas asks residents for permission before putting likely targets in civilian neighborhoods. What's the anticipated life span for anyone who objects?
My point is that the IDF - and the US Army, too- make a distinction between armed combatants and civilians. Hamas/ Hizbollah/ Fatah do not.

Let's be clear here. If a Hamas terrorist is seen entering a house in Gaza, then that house is a legitimate target because it houses the terrorist. Suspension of the prime directive to seek out and destroy the terrorist entity as soon as it enters a house is not a viable policy.
That is exactly what the IDF spokesperson said - I suggest you re-read the quote.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Defense officials said Sunday that Israel would, however, not hesitate to target the homes of civilians who protected Hamas terrorists throughout the operation.


"We will go after every Hamas operative, no matter where he is," one official said. "We urge the Palestinians not to cooperate with terrorists."
735 doriangrey  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:14:46pm

W00t w00t San Diego up by 11...... ;)

736 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:16:26pm

re: #732 Jim in Virginia

It's a real tragedy. Israel absorbed millions of refugees and immigrants from Arab countries, the USSR and elsewhere, and found jobs and housing for them.
The Saudis and the West have given the Palestinians millions of dollars but no one in the Arab world wants them to leave the refugee camps; if they did the Arabs could not blame the Jews for their misery. They're just pawns.

If they are pawns, they are pawns who thirst for the blood of Jews and the destruction of the Jewish State. In chess you spare the pawn at your peril.

737 David Simon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:16:42pm

re: #711 Spare O'Lake

Don't confuse the Hamas-Fatah power struggle with a lack of majority popular support for Hamas. Hamas has plenty of safe houses and no need to force anyone to house them.

Bingo! Here's my analogy (which will no doubt piss a few people off; I don't give a fuck):

The overwhelming majority of indigent blacks are decent, law abiding people. Yet, there is a tendency to side with the criminals (Rodney King, OJ et al) when the officers are white. Why? Because as much as they hate the vermin in their midst (who prey on them more than anyone else), they perceive themselves as victims of white racism. And so their ignorant "pride" trumps their security concerns.

The "Palestinians" have been sold the same bill of goods. Their Arab "brothers" have sealed their fate. Yet who do they lash out at? The Jews, even though Israeli Arabs have more freedom in Israel than in any of the twenty-two backwater shitholes of the Ummah.

It's a mindset that those of us in the civilized world cannot hope to understand. And therefore, I don't even try.

738 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:17:30pm

re: #700 David IV of Georgia

Wow. I've never played the game myself, but that is pretty bad. Sure, they've got the right to produce such a game, but why would they want to? I really know the answer: money. Kinda like a hooker, come to think of it. If you whack them do you still have to pay for the game?

739 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:25:38pm

re: #737 David Simon

Freedom doesn't seem to be very important to the Mohammedans. They want submission to their Ideology. It is similar to the type of equality that the Leftists preach. All slaves to Allah/the State are equal. They're equally miserable (except for the ones that are more equal than the other slaves), but that isn't seen as a flaw.

It is seen as a desirable end of itself. Both Mohammedanism and Leftism despise any form of individuality. And they won't hesitate to use force to beat it down when they find it.

740 USBeast  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:27:42pm

Just finished. I had totally forgotten Criswell. It might be fun to go back and look at his predictions and see how wrong/right he was.

741 David Simon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:28:25pm

re: #732 Jim in Virginia

It's a real tragedy. Israel absorbed millions of refugees and immigrants from Arab countries, the USSR and elsewhere, and found jobs and housing for them.
The Saudis and the West have given the Palestinians millions of dollars but no one in the Arab world wants them to leave the refugee camps; if they did the Arabs could not blame the Jews for their misery. They're just pawns.

Yes, it is a tragedy. Iraq and Syria alone could have absorbed the "refugees" (I use scare quotes because they really didn't have to leave) back in '48. Jordan (which is more than 3/4 of the Mandate) gave citizenship to a lot of them, and Lebanon gave citizenship to some of them. (And let's not forget Israel; over a million have citizenship).

An equal number of Jews were displaced from Arab countries. And population transfers weren't exactly unprecedented back then. It didn't have to end like this. Unfortunately, Arab machismo (how's that for a euphemism?) wouldn't allow for an equitable solution.

742 Iron Fist  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:33:01pm

re: #731 albusteve

I wouldn't do it. I've been up in a little plane twice in my life. We all were wearing earmuffs, so we could hear what the Air Traffic Controllers were saying. Not good. Not good at all. We had the same trainee both times. On the way out she tried to send us through a thunderstorm. On the way back, she wanted to put us in front of something. The guy supervising her overrode her before she finished speaking, and he said "DON'T DO THAT!"

We wound up coming in like a fucking Stutka dive bomber. I didn't puke, but I came to understand why the Pope kissed the ground after a flight.

743 So?  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:40:02pm

Why Plan 9 from Outer Space never won an Academy Award is beyond me.

744 USBeast  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:42:07pm

re: #743 So?

Why Plan 9 from Outer Space never won an Academy Award is beyond me.

It was made before 1970.

/sarc

745 So?  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:42:30pm

re: #732 Jim in Virginia

It's a real tragedy. Israel absorbed millions of refugees and immigrants from Arab countries, the USSR and elsewhere, and found jobs and housing for them.
The Saudis and the West have given the Palestinians millions of dollars but no one in the Arab world wants them to leave the refugee camps; if they did the Arabs could not blame the Jews for their misery. They're just pawns.

Watch this video with Nonie Darwish, she tells it like it is.

746 David Simon  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:43:41pm

re: #739 Iron Fist

Freedom doesn't seem to be very important to the Mohammedans. They want submission to their Ideology.

Dead on accurate. If you read the rantings of Qutb (who influenced Bin Laden), it's clear that he detested freedom (hence, his antipathy toward the United States; even though one would think he would recognize its superiority to his native Egypt). Islam, according to Qutb, offers the perfect roadmap. There is no need for government, man-made laws - or the need to make decisions about how to run one's life. One must simply submit to Allah.

I can't wrap my head around the fact that Islamofascists hate communism (or at least say that they do). That appears to be what they're striving for. (Then again, most leftists claim to hate communism too. Hmm...)

747 So?  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 6:43:49pm

re: #744 USBeast

It was made before 1970.

/sarc

Right, the year of Midnight Cowboy. I git it.

748 murphyb  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 7:02:29pm

Did anyone notice that Dick Chaney was shown in the credits for....

Wardrobe!

Can you believe it?

749 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 7:11:03pm

re: #731 albusteve

re: #742 Iron Fist

I'd love to, but no way. I get dizzy bending over to pick up a pencil.

750 taejohndo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 7:16:15pm

Gasoline. Plan 9. Sunlight. It suddenly makes sense.

I will never laugh at outer space or the future again.

751 taejohndo  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 7:19:58pm

re: #742 Iron Fist

I wouldn't do it. I've been up in a little plane twice in my life. We all were wearing earmuffs, so we could hear what the Air Traffic Controllers were saying. Not good. Not good at all. We had the same trainee both times. On the way out she tried to send us through a thunderstorm. On the way back, she wanted to put us in front of something. The guy supervising her overrode her before she finished speaking, and he said "DON'T DO THAT!"

We wound up coming in like a fucking Stutka dive bomber. I didn't puke, but I came to understand why the Pope kissed the ground after a flight.

You haven't lived until Air Traffic Control tries to vector you into a "cumulogranite cloud" (a mountain).

752 Teacake!  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 8:15:18pm

There's a picture of her from a few years back at wikipedia, and that's how i knew for sure - the old gal I met, Helen was Maila.

753 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Dec 28, 2008 10:38:55pm
754 tanna  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 4:00:55am

Now I just feel special.

755 elcaro  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:30:18am

re: #23 David IV of Georgia

"Greetings, my friends", I find his hair "unknown, mysterious and unexplainable".

John McCain's speech-writer...

756 threeCents  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 9:15:59am

The movie states that Dick Cheney was responsible for Wardrobe. Look at the beginning credits.

757 wiffersnapper  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 9:58:14am

Merry Christmas to me, I have yet to see it! Thanks for the link.

758 BeckoningChasm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 12:38:31pm

"Well, I saw a flying saucer."

"A flying saucer?! You mean the kind from up there?"

"Yeah--or its counterpart."

____

"One thing's for sure--inspector Clay's dead--murdered--and someone's responsible!"

759 OrlandoParkRat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 1:04:33pm

re: #757 wiffersnapper

Merry Christmas to me, I have yet to see it! Thanks for the link.

I saw it here ... thanks LGF, but it's 90 minutes of my life I'd much rather have back LOL. Seriously though, it's trying so hard, so it's worth a look.

760 elafleur  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 2:57:08pm

is Al Gore playing the announcer on this mooovie?
if not, we now know where Al got all his scientific
knowledge & global warming bullcrap.
i'm freezing my a-- off.


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