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Reuters: Obama is 'Uber-Cool'

Media | Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 5:07:08 am PST

Bias? I don’t see any groveling, fawning bias, do you? Hawaiian ’shaka’ greeting comes natural to Obama.

The president-elect, looking uber-cool with his White Sox baseball cap on backwards, flipped the shaka to a crowd of about 30 people as he left a gym on a Marine Corps base on the Hawaiian island of Oahu, where he is vacationing.

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1 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:09:38am

I have a hand gesture for him too

2 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:09:49am

How very presidential.

3 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:09:50am

Uber? He is the "coolest" president evah!

4 jumpininhere  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:10:42am

Barf.

5 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:10:43am

re: #2 ArmyWife

How very presidential.

The backwards hat is a nice touch, as well. Perhaps he can get a set of the wonderful baggy pants too?

6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:11:44am

The first comment below the article.

catchers in baseball wear hats in that fashion. usa needs more hitters and pitchers than catchers. berra was good, but mantle, dimaggio, williams, and the babe understood. repect is earned and not to be confused with imagery. leaders should be considerate of photo’s showing one catching rather than hitting or pitching. the usa needs……….?

Huh?

7 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:12:19am

re: #5 Desert Dog

The backwards hat is a nice touch, as well. Perhaps he can get a set of the wonderful baggy pants too?

Or maybe he can show us the 5 layers of boxer shorts he's wearing underneath.

8 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:12:24am

He's fine if the press follows him to the gym, though.

9 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:12:53am

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They were still reeling from "uber" used in what was supposed to be an actual news article. It caused loss of coherency.

10 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:13:01am

Backward hat? Hey Barry, flash some gang signs.
Act like the President!

11 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:13:57am

What the hell is Charles doing up? Charles?...GO BACK TO BED! You need some sleep!

12 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:14:01am

re: #10 opnion

Backward hat? Hey Barry, flash some gang signs.
Act like the President!

Yo Be-atches, Here's yo State O the Hood Address

13 Pastorius  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:14:14am

I wonder if Obama has as much trouble with time and space as your average Islander as well?

That's a whole state full of perpetually stoned people.

14 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:14:23am

Does he still smoke or did he quit that nasty habit? Working while still puffing on faggots wen you are done doesn't strike me as too healthy.

15 christheprofessor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:14:57am

Wow, this is one early thread!

16 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:15:08am

re: #11 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What the hell is Charles doing up? Charles?...GO BACK TO BED! You need some sleep!

Fruitcup for Charles.

17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:15:18am

What gang would Obama belong to.

"The Pennsylvania Avenue Silly Ninnies"?

18 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:15:23am

re: #5 Desert Dog

My soon to be President thinks "Thug Chic" is an ok look. G-d help us all.

19 BaseballMom57  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:15:32am

re: #5 Desert Dog

The backwards hat is a nice touch, as well. Perhaps he can get a set of the wonderful baggy pants too?

Oh, but he turned the hat around to it's proper position before greeting the crowd!

I bet the Secret Service LOVE being on the Obama Detail. /S

("Hammer Time" actually DID pop into my head after I read your comment!)

20 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:15:36am

re: #8 Bloodnok

He's fine if the press follows him to the gym, though.

Just as long as the don't "waste that question" by asking something with actual substance.

21 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:15:36am

Are you okay, Charles? It's 5:15.

22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:15:54am

re: #14 Jetpilot1101

Takes talent to smoke while working out.

23 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:15:59am

re: #18 ArmyWife

My soon to be President thinks "Thug Chic" is an ok look. G-d help us all.

Kanye West will be singing the national anthem at the inauguration.

24 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:16:29am

Good morning Lizards....

25 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:16:44am

re: #24 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards....

Good morning!

26 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:16:53am

re: #20 Desert Dog

Just as long as they don't "waste that question" by asking something with actual substance.


pimf!

27 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:17:28am

re: #12 Desert Dog

Yo Be-atches, Here's yo State O the Hood Address

Will arrive with his posse? 'Word ya'll things be foshnizle"

28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:17:34am

re: #9 ArmyWife

You do know that now that "uber" has been used in a news article, those "hep cat kiddios" are going to come up with brand new "groovy" terminology.

29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:18:30am

Dorian!

30 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:18:58am

Makes you wonder what the new Presidential Limo is going to be.

31 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:19:04am

re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You do know that now that "uber" has been used in a news article, those "hep cat kiddios" are going to come up with brand new "groovy" terminology.

There must be a full scale panic at urbandictionary.com.

32 BaseballMom57  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:19:16am

Good morning all!

Brewing Caramel Truffle coffee this am....sounded decadent, so I thought I'd try it. I can smell it back here on the other end of the house, so I suppose it's done. BRB

33 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:19:31am

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Please give our new President a chance and stop talking like idiots

This one is great, too. Talking?

34 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:19:39am

I want an adult to be president again.

35 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:20:01am

re: #25 Jetpilot1101

Good morning!

Morning Jetpilot1101

re: #29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dorian!

FBV......

36 P. Aaron  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:20:18am

Why can't this guy's press covereage be term limited?

37 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:21:17am

I wish I could find that article posted last night about CBBHO's chafing in the bubble. Anyone?

38 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:21:19am

re: #30 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Makes you wonder what the new Presidential Limo is going to be.

Spinning hubcaps ya'll.

39 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:21:38am

re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We should beat them to the punch and come up with our own hip terminology because...because...because I don't know what else to do when the FREAKIN' PEOTUS LOOKS LIKE A POSTER BOY FOR GANSTA RAP!

40 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:21:45am

re: #30 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Makes you wonder what the new Presidential Limo is going to be.

A Pimpmobile? 22" ultra=low profile tires with chrome spinner rims?

41 Peacekeeper  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:22:02am

Gah.

42 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:22:14am

re: #33 ArmyWife

This one is great, too. Talking?

Sounds like they have not got the memo from the Office of the President-Elect that all that stuff he said during the primaries and the election was just a load of crap and that he is really an empty facade controlled by a corrupt the Chicago Machine? They should check in their "spam" folder

43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:22:55am

Pssst. Barack! Over here!

Bubble's getting smaller and smaller. People peekin' in your bubble.

Back and forth... fish in a fishbowl... back and forth.

Lion in a cage at the zoo... staring strangers everywhere... back and forth.

How you liking it so far?

Congratulations on your hard fought win.

44 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:23:04am

re: #37 MandyManners

I wish I could find that article posted last night about CBBHO's chafing in the bubble. Anyone?

Here ya go, kiddo.

45 christheprofessor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:23:12am

re: #30 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Makes you wonder what the new Presidential Limo is going to be.

I think this is it -- he can use it to get to the mainland from Hawaii...

46 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:23:18am

re: #39 ArmyWife

We should beat them to the punch and come up with our own hip terminology because...because...because I don't know what else to do when the FREAKIN' PEOTUS LOOKS LIKE A POSTER BOY FOR GANSTA RAP!

Well, he is a Chicago Gangster... ;O

47 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:23:34am

re: #37 MandyManners

here

48 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:23:39am

re: #37 MandyManners

I wish I could find that article posted last night about CBBHO's chafing in the bubble. Anyone?

Here it is.

49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:23:56am

re: #37 MandyManners

That was me! I'll go find it! BRB!

50 BaseballMom57  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:23:58am

re: #30 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Makes you wonder what the new Presidential Limo is going to be.

The dudes on "Pimp My Ride" are already working on it. ETA - just in time for Inauguration Day.

51 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:23:59am

The media glare, the constant security appendage and the sheer production that has become a morning jog or a hankering for an ice cream cone – it’s been closing in on Barack Obama for some time.

Now the president-elect appears increasingly conscious of the confines of his new position, bristling at the routine demands of press coverage and beginning to chafe at boundaries that are only going to get smaller.

Obama even took the unusual step Friday morning of leaving behind the pool of reporters assigned to follow him, taking his daughters to a nearby water park without them. It was a breach of longstanding protocol between presidents (or presidents-elect) and the media, that a gaggle of reporters representing television, print and wire services is with his motorcade at all times.

Then when reporters finally caught up with Obama at Koko Marina Paradise Deli and he acknowledged them for one of few times since arriving in Hawaii last Saturday, he sounded resigned.

After ordering a tuna melt on 12-grain bread, Obama approached reporters and placed his hand on the shoulder of pool reporter Philip Rucker of The Washington Post, who was scribbling away in his notebook.

“You don't really need to write all that down,” Obama said.

All presidents and would-be presidents struggle with “the bubble” – the security detail and the always-there reporters that impose barriers to any spontaneous interaction with the outside world.

But Obama seems to be struggling particularly hard, particularly early.

SNIP


Hat-tip: Fat Bastard.

52 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:24:10am

Hawaiian ’shaka’ greeting comes natural to Obama.

Would that be Shaka Khan !?!?!

53 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:24:12am

re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pssst. Barack! Over here!

Bubble's getting smaller and smaller. People peekin' in your bubble.

Back and forth... fish in a fishbowl... back and forth.

Lion in a cage at the zoo... staring strangers everywhere... back and forth.

How you liking it so far?

Congratulations on your hard fought win.

Holy TFK, FBV.

Like that

54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:24:29am

re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Someone else found it. Thanks!

55 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:24:58am

re: #44 Bloodnok

re: #47 ArmyWife

re: #48 rightymouse

Thanks!

I searched for "bubble".

56 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:25:17am

re: #52 sattv4u2

Hawaiian ’shaka’ greeting comes natural to Obama.

Would that be Shaka Khan !?!?!

Do you feel for him?

57 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:25:25am

re: #30 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Makes you wonder what the new Presidential Limo is going to be.

I'm sure it will look like a Greyhound Bus.

58 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:25:31am

re: #30 Village Idiot's Apprentice A stretch escalade with some 22 inch spinners.

59 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:25:34am

re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That was me! I'll go find it! BRB!

Done!

60 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:26:01am

re: #52 sattv4u2

Hawaiian ’shaka’ greeting comes natural to Obama.

Would that be Shaka Khan !?!?!

We have to some Hawaiian friends, they do that "shaka" thing all the time. That does not bother me at all, it's kinda funny....of course, they are not the POTUS!

61 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:26:24am

re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pssst. Barack! Over here!

Bubble's getting smaller and smaller. People peekin' in your bubble.

Back and forth... fish in a fishbowl... back and forth.

Lion in a cage at the zoo... staring strangers everywhere... back and forth.

How you liking it so far?

Congratulations on your hard fought win.

LOL!

62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:26:24am

re: #53 Bloodnok

Holy TFK, FBV.

Like that

I just got chills. Thanks! TFK? Hardly. But thanks!

63 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:26:58am

re: #56 MandyManners

I DON'T think I love him.

64 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:26:59am

re: #45 christheprofessor

ctp...
What the heck is that thing?

But yeh....it could come in handy for him now that he is embracing his Hawaian heritage.
Chicago..nope..never heard of the place.

65 Miss Trixie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:27:03am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Wow! Charles is up and at 'em early today.

How can anyone take Barrack "Despereaux" Obama seriously? He's going to be the next POTUS and he behaves like this?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Seriously, it's embarassing.

66 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:27:08am

60 Minutes had a reprise of their interviews with the Gangsta Elect during the campaign & after.
They were & are so in the tank & have no shame.

67 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:27:54am

GWB exercises regularly and biked with Lance Armstrong. I don't remember any of this breathless nonsense coming reporters. Bias? You betcha. Silly star-struck bias.

68 Peacekeeper  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:28:00am

It could be worse...he could be married to Hillary.

69 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:29:31am

re: #65 Miss Trixie
Maybe he just set a new thread to auto open this AM not sure if he can do it like that or not tho.

70 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:30:04am

re: #67 rightymouse

GWB exercises regularly and biked with Lance Armstrong. I don't remember any of this breathless nonsense coming reporters. Bias? You betcha. Silly star-struck bias.

If W would have worn his hat backwords & gave a shout out to his homies, he would have had some cred.

71 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:30:08am

NOT to rain on everyone's parade (okay ,, so a little shower, maybe) but unless I'm missing something, in the photo, The One's little finger isn't extended a la "Hang Losse". His thumb looks to be pointing back to something. '
On the other hand, the backwards hat DOES look juvinile!

72 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:30:11am

re: #52 sattv4u2

Hawaiian ’shaka’ greeting comes natural to Obama.

Would that be Shaka Khan !?!?!

73 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:30:40am

re: #63 ArmyWife

I DON'T think I love him.

I just hope he doesn't fuck us up too badly.

74 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:31:05am

re: #68 Peacekeeper

It could be worse...he could be married to Hillary.

WAB is bad enough.

75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:31:06am

re: #69 Rustler

I think he has an auto-thread function, but just runs with random Plan 9 quotes or sumthin. Think he has to be up for this. Of course he may be "Rock and Rolling All Night, and Part of Every Day."

76 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:31:15am

re: #73 MandyManners

I just hope he doesn't fuck us up too badly.

Your more optimistic than me!

77 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:31:31am

re: #34 MandyManners

I want an adult to be president again.

It's gunna be a looong wait.

78 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:31:36am

re: #73 MandyManners
January 21st Rod Blagojevich recieves a pretirial pardon.

79 christheprofessor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:31:52am

re: #64 Village Idiot's Apprentice

It's a combination low rider and boat... Perfect for a surfer Thug-in-Chief...

80 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:31:59am

re: #68 Peacekeeper

It could be worse...he could be married to Hillary.

How does that make it worse for Bill?

81 gregg  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:32:04am

re: #51 MandyManners

The media glare, the constant security appendage and the sheer production that has become a morning jog or a hankering for an ice cream cone – it’s been closing in on Barack Obama for some time.

SNIP

Hat-tip: Fat Bastard.

I'm confused - I thought during the intense MSM vetting process of Obama, we learned that he did not like ice cream.

82 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:32:09am

re: #73 MandyManners

I just hope he doesn't fuck us up too badly.

ROTFLMAO.... with any luck he will turn out to be too incompetent to actually fuck anything up seriously. ;p

83 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:32:12am

re: #70 opnion

If W would have worn his hat backwords & gave a shout out to his homies, he would have had some cred.

Wearing a cowboy hat backwards?

84 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:32:50am

re: #76 Nevergiveup

Your more optimistic than me!

It comes and it goes.

85 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:32:54am

Looking at the picture, I am just sayin that it is tough to look all gansta with those ears.

86 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:33:04am

re: #81 gregg

I'm confused - I thought during the intense MSM vetting process of Obama, we learned that he did not like ice cream.

hankering for an ice cream cone

Is that code for a cigarette?

87 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:33:11am

re: #70 opnion

If W would have worn his hat backwords & gave a shout out to his homies, he would have had some cred.

Dunno. Something tells me they'd tut-tut and suggest he have a session with a shrink.

88 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:33:15am

re: #68 Peacekeeper
WAB is worse than Hillary I think.

89 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:33:47am
90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:34:03am

re: #83 MandyManners

Wearing a cowboy hat backwards?

That's why Amish kids aren't gangstas. You can't tell when they turn their hat's backwards.

91 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:34:06am

Last update - 13:02 29/12/2008

Top PA negotiator: No peace talks with Israel during Gaza assault

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

This guy must be a comedian in his day job?

92 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:34:13am

re: #77 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

It's gunna be a looong wait.

1483 days, three hours, 26 minutes and about 15 seconds.

Hat-tip: a Lizard.

93 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:34:19am

re: #83 MandyManners

Wearing a cowboy hat backwards?

'Boy, Howdy"

94 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:34:27am

re: #78 Rustler

January 21st Rod Blagojevich recieves a pretirial pardon.

Ain't gonna' happen.

95 3 wood  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:34:51am

Maybe the President-Elect can put on some gang colors and flash some sings to the 'bro's in the hood like some punk NBA player showing off to the cameras.

And the MSM adoration is becoming a total joke.

96 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:35:20am

re: #67 rightymouse

He was chastised for being too obsessed with exercise! This is craziness.

I still don't get the "he's so gorgeous" thing with Obama, either and this obsession with wanting us to believe he has a fabulous body! Hot. Not hot.

97 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:35:36am

re: #81 gregg

I'm confused - I thought during the intense MSM vetting process of Obama, we learned that he did not like ice cream.

I can't keep track of the minutiae but, I seem to remember that.

98 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:35:46am

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's why Amish kids aren't gangstas. You can't tell when they turn their hat's backwards.

My senile Mother-in-law who lives with us was wearing her pants on backwards all day yesterday. Does that count?

99 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:35:47am

re: #94 MandyManners
Yeah I know It's just a wet dream of mine. I want to watch the bastard crash and burn fast so maybe we can have a 1 year pres before the Impeachment.

100 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:36:03am

re: #82 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.... with any luck he will turn out to be too incompetent to actually fuck anything up seriously. ;p

A well-meaning idiot?

101 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:36:08am

re: #82 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.... with any luck he will turn out to be too incompetent to actually fuck anything up seriously. ;p

I think he'll be competent enough to screw up very badly....combined with the nincompoops in the Congress...

What I want to see is the "reckoning hour"....the moment when the press turns on him like a rabid dog when he starts F*cking Up......I wonder if that time will ever come?

102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:36:47am

re: #96 ArmyWife

Mark Wahlberg was in the scariest movie "I ever seen!"

103 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:37:35am

re: #88 Rustler

WAB is worse than Hillary I think.

WAB has not said she's gonna' change major policy.

BTW, was it just a rumor that WAB wants a salary for being First Lady?

104 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:38:02am

re: #96 ArmyWife Well if young American men can think all these human toothpicks like Kate Moss or whatever are hot, then Why can't American women Love the Walking Cancer Stick.

105 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:38:04am

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's why Amish kids aren't gangstas. You can't tell when they turn their hat's backwards.

Clop. Clop. Clop. BANG. Clop. Clop. Clop.

106 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:38:05am

re: #89 taxfreekiller

Of some note:

Went west on I-30 to Dallas, then south on I-35 to San Marcos on Christmas day after we fed the cows, from Greenville to Dallas passed 3 of the pickup's towing cars loaded down full of stuff and Mexicans going back south, on the longer section from Dallas to San Marcos, 15 of them
total of 18, we were on the highway 4 hrs. so looks like a major get out of town is going down, coming back we saw not one load coming north.

Thanks Barny Frank and Chris Dodd, you did more to move illegals out than the I.C.E. guys and the Border Patrol both.

Odd they chose Christmas day to leave. But does seem like we had four to 6 days of lots of going south going down.

Fear not, senor. They will come back when the jobs do.....the "Want Ads" section in the "Mexico Today" is thinner than the one up here.

107 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:38:23am

re: #103 MandyManners

WAB has not said she's gonna' change major policy.

BTW, was it just a rumor that WAB wants a salary for being First Lady?

And her particular talent is?

108 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:38:37am

re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mark Wahlberg was in the scariest movie "I ever seen!"

Yeah, I feel that way about the last scene in "Boogie Nights" too...

109 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:38:39am

re: #96 ArmyWife

He was chastised for being too obsessed with exercise! This is craziness.

I still don't get the "he's so gorgeous" thing with Obama, either and this obsession with wanting us to believe he has a fabulous body! Hot. Not hot.


I'm with you on this one. And to me, Bush is HOT!

110 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:38:58am

re: #89 taxfreekiller

Maybe their AQ buddies have told them to get outta' Dodge.

111 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:00am

re: #105 MandyManners Gotta love Amish drive-bys.

112 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:04am

re: #105 MandyManners

Clop. Clop. Clop. BANG. Clop. Clop. Clop.

LOL ,,, a Trot By Shooting!

113 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:10am

re: #107 Nevergiveup

Wearing really ugly dresses.

114 Miss Trixie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:13am

*frenzied media scrum at the beach*
*click!*flash!*click!*click!*flash!*flash!*

MrObamaMrObamaMrObamaMrObama!

*whispering aide to MrObama*

"Sir, the potato goes in the front of the shorts."

115 Gang of One  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:14am

re: #34 MandyManners

I want an adult to be president again.

Then we'll have to take away the vote from children.

116 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:25am

re: #101 Desert Dog

I think he'll be competent enough to screw up very badly....combined with the nincompoops in the Congress...

What I want to see is the "reckoning hour"....the moment when the press turns on him like a rabid dog when he starts F*cking Up......I wonder if that time will ever come?

Nope, they cant because the second they do they become racist evil attack dogs.

117 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:33am

Sad. America's oldest man, who happens to be black, saw the picture we are talking about...

SAN FRANCISCO – George Francis, the nation's oldest man, who lived through both world wars, man's first walk on the moon and the election of the first black president, has died. He was 112.

118 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:34am

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's why Amish kids aren't gangstas. You can't tell when they turn their hat's backwards.

They're angry, cause they have to watch TV in the dark.

119 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:39am

re: #107 Nevergiveup

And her particular talent is?

marrying smart

120 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:39am

re: #93 opnion

'Boy, Howdy"

With those ears, it's more like "Howdy-Doody"!

121 Gang of One  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:53am

Oh, good morning, everyone!

122 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:39:59am

re: #107 Nevergiveup

And her particular talent is?

Now, now, she is a fine woman and has many talents that she will use to serve her country with honor and dignity.....right?

123 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:40:04am

re: #107 Nevergiveup
Pouring ideas into the empty cup that is her husband.

124 BaseballMom57  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:40:08am

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's why Amish kids aren't gangstas. You can't tell when they turn their hat's backwards.

I LOVE the Amish. Had some of their homemade chicken soup at a quilt auction one time. I felt like a million dollars afterwards, and I wasn't even sick in the first place!

But FBV, THAT was funny!

125 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:40:33am

re: #119 sattv4u2

marrying smart

Well I'll give you marrying well, not so sure about smart?

126 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:41:02am

re: #118 opnion

They're angry, cause they have to watch TV in the dark.

And, its the same show all day everyday

127 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:41:20am

re: #122 Desert Dog

Now, now, she is a fine woman and has many talents that she will use to serve her country with honor and dignity.....right?

Sir, Yes Sir!
/

128 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:41:24am

re: #99 Rustler

Yeah I know It's just a wet dream of mine. I want to watch the bastard crash and burn fast so maybe we can have a 1 year pres before the Impeachment.

I just want the nation to focus on what's important.

129 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:41:44am

re: #107 Nevergiveup

And her particular talent is?

Keeping the President elect's balls in the freezer...

130 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:41:56am

re: #107 Nevergiveup

And her particular talent is?

Making waffles?

131 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:41:59am

re: #120 MandyManners

With those ears, it's more like "Howdy-Doody"!

He is sensitive about his ears. Hell, he's sensitive about everything.

132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:42:02am
133 Miss Trixie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:42:03am

{Mousey!} I didn't see you until just now.

Morning, toots! :D

134 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:42:05am

re: #127 Nevergiveup

Sir, Yes Sir!
/

this KoolAid is delicious, isn't it? I think I will have some more...sip sip sip...mmmm

135 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:42:08am

re: #114 Miss Trixie

*frenzied media scrum at the beach*
*click!*flash!*click!*click!*flash!*flash!*

MrObamaMrObamaMrObamaMrObama!

*whispering aide to MrObama*

"Sir, the potato goes in the front of the shorts."


LOLOL!

136 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:42:12am

re: #128 MandyManners

Our new president's physique?

137 JacksonTn  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:42:18am

Good Morning Lizards....

If someone had posted a photo of Obama with his baseball cap on backwards giving a hand gesture during the campaign they would surely have been called "racist" ...

I think he looks like a goofball ...and what's next ...his drawers will be hanging out ...geez ...

/can I get that ODS medication now ...

138 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:42:29am

re: #111 Rustler

Gotta love Amish drive-bys.

Especially the high-speed ones.

139 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:42:43am

re: #125 Nevergiveup

Well I'll give you marrying well, not so sure about smart?

She,s soon to be the 1st lady (with all the infuence that brings). She's raked in millions due to HIS contacts.

No matter how you cut it ,, that's SMART

140 BaseballMom57  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:42:45am

re: #105 MandyManners

Clop. Clop. Clop. BANG. Clop. Clop. Clop.

SPEW! Hot coffee! Ouch!

141 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:43:16am

re: #115 Gang of One

Then we'll have to take away the vote from children.

Or rid our dependence on the MFM.

142 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:43:23am

re: #133 Miss Trixie

{Mousey!} I didn't see you until just now.

Morning, toots! :D


Morning to you too, toots! :)

143 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:43:28am

re: #105 MandyManners

Clop. Clop. Clop. BANG. Clop. Clop. Clop.

Damn it, another Amish drive by shooting. Crime is up .7% in this neighborhood, we gotta do something!

144 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:43:49am

re: #136 ArmyWife
Watching the new president walking on hte beach gave me a hankering for some KFC.

145 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:44:16am
146 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:44:36am

re: #131 opnion

He is sensitive about his ears. Hell, he's sensitive about everything.

He should learn to be proud of them. Dumbo did.

147 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:44:50am
148 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:45:03am

re: #136 ArmyWife

Our new president's physique?

Yeah. That's it.

149 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:45:41am

re: #139 sattv4u2

She,s soon to be the 1st lady (with all the infuence that brings). She's raked in millions due to HIS contacts.

No matter how you cut it ,, that's SMART

Yeah, I know your right but it is to early in the morning to start drinking so I ain't gonna think about it any longer.

150 BaseballMom57  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:45:41am

re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Shouldn't have made a joke out of it. He was a tough old such n' such.

Wow. God rest his soul.

151 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:45:47am

re: #146 MandyManners

He should learn to be proud of them. Dumbo did.

Mabye he can fly if he flaps them? Now THAT would make him a cool President! A flying, shaka waving, basketball playing, hat on backwards President!

152 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:46:02am

re: #147 taxfreekiller

The "MSM" has been jilted by the big "O" hole already, they do not even know yet, but it will come to them soon, they will swoon, then a few will break ranks, then more, then Chis Mathews will claim in fact some one pissed on his leg. They will then go out and find a true commie tool and back him to dethrone the big "O" hole.

LOL!

153 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:46:12am

re: #147 taxfreekiller

"..then Chis Mathews will claim in fact some one pissed on his leg"


That made my morning. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

154 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:46:34am
155 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:47:08am

re: #137 JacksonTn

Good Morning Lizards....

If someone had posted a photo of Obama with his baseball cap on backwards giving a hand gesture during the campaign they would surely have been called "racist" ...

I think he looks like a goofball ...and what's next ...his drawers will be hanging out ...geez ...

/can I get that ODS medication now ...


Well sure, when the picture of him in African elder garb was puiblished it was considered racist & an attempt to paint him a a Muslim. The problem is that in Kenya that paricular garb is worn only by MUSLIM elders.

156 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:47:08am

re: #147 taxfreekiller

The "MSM" has been jilted by the big "O" hole already, they do not even know yet, but it will come to them soon, they will swoon, then a few will break ranks, then more, then Chis Mathews will claim in fact some one pissed on his leg. They will then go out and find a true commie tool and back him to dethrone the big "O" hole.

No, the tingly feeling will move up to where his legs end and it will be a pain, not a tingle

157 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:47:13am

re: #145 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

;-)

Like molasses in February.

158 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:47:18am

re: #151 Desert Dog
He can't fly on his own, but give him 30MPH winds and he becomes Michelles kite.

159 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:47:28am

re: #154 SteveC

We're saved!

Cynthia McKinney to the rescue!

Holy crap.

160 3 wood  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:48:01am

re: #101 Desert Dog

What I want to see is the "reckoning hour"....the moment when the press turns on him like a rabid dog when he starts F*cking Up......I wonder if that time will ever come?

I don't think that will ever happen. The great majority of the MSM is liberal and. I believe, socialist at heart. Socialists (and communists too) always respond to failure by insisting that socialism was not done enough and the solution is more socialism.

The MSM have sold their souls to get this guy elected. They worship at his feet. The worship of Obama is the one religion that the far left and the MSM finds acceptable.

He will be a hero in their eyes just cause he exists.

161 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:48:23am
162 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:48:32am

re: #160 3 wood

I don't think that will ever happen. The great majority of the MSM is liberal and. I believe, socialist at heart. Socialists (and communists too) always respond to failure by insisting that socialism was not done enough and the solution is more socialism.

The MSM have sold their souls to get this guy elected. They worship at his feet. The worship of Obama is the one religion that the far left and the MSM finds acceptable.

He will be a hero in their eyes just cause he exists.

Just keep dropping the bar lower and lower as needed, eh?

163 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:48:37am

re: #154 SteveC

We're saved!

Cynthia McKinney to the rescue!

Is she going alone or with Blairs' sister-in-law? They'd make some couple, or does McKinney hang with white people?

164 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:49:14am

re: #163 Nevergiveup

Is she going alone or with Blairs' sister-in-law? They'd make some couple, or does McKinney hang with white people?

Fire up the Bulldozer!

165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:49:23am

It would be sad if it was true.

You all know by now that the situation in Gaza has gone from intolerable to even worse. A tiny open-air prison with 1.5 million inhabitants, created by border closings and a near total blockade, is now being bombed by the Isreali Army using US military equipment. The humanitarian disaster that accompanies any bombing is aggravated by the lack of equipment and supplies at the hospitals that are swamped by the wounded.

166 JacksonTn  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:49:58am

re: #158 Rustler

He can't fly on his own, but give him 30MPH winds and he becomes Michelles kite.

While channeling Sally Fields in her nuns habit ....

"They like me ....they really like me...."

167 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:50:13am

re: #151 Desert Dog

Mabye he can fly if he flaps them? Now THAT would make him a cool President! A flying, shaka waving, basketball playing, hat on backwards President!

Pass the brown acid!

168 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:50:24am

re: #154 SteveC

Is the boat stopping off to pick up Carter? This could be really interesting!

169 Miss Trixie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:50:41am

re: #151 Desert Dog

Mabye he can fly if he flaps them? Now THAT would make him a cool President! A flying, shaka waving, basketball playing, hat on backwards President!

Not to mention bike-riding.

This guy's worse than Nuancy-Boy Jon Karie.

170 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:50:46am

re: #154 SteveC

We're saved!

Cynthia McKinney to the rescue!

TOMORROWS HEADLINE:
Fomer Presidential candidate and CongressWoman Cynthia McKinney witnesses first hand Israeli atrocities in the Gaza Strip

171 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:51:02am

re: #161 SteveC

Good blog. I hadn't heard of Abu Tir, but if they really got the number 2 guy in Hamas, that's a welcome development.

172 Gang of One  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:51:28am

re: #165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

FBV, these people are criminally stupid.

173 christheprofessor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:51:57am

re: #160 3 wood

The worship of Obama is the one religion that the far left and the MSM finds acceptable.

Actually, they have two religions -- the other being Global Warming/Save the Planet crap...

174 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:52:05am

re: #155 opnion

details, details.

175 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:52:08am

re: #154 SteveC

We're saved!

Cynthia McKinney to the rescue!

As a contrast, the person who SHOULD be our President (if the Democrats and Republicans hadn't spoiled the election) is actually DOING something. Cynthia McKinney is courageously taking part in a shipment of medical aid that will break through the siege of Gaza. She is onboard a ship leaving from Cyprus on a mission organized by Free Gaza, a group that has successfully defied the siege several times in the last five months.

LOL! The delusion is strong with this one.

176 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:52:54am

re: #168 ArmyWife

Is the boat stopping off to pick up Carter? This could be really interesting!

Now that would be a target rich environment ha?

177 Muadib  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:53:21am

Reuters busily uber-groveling at 0bama's feet. Pathetic.

178 Gang of One  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:53:26am

re: #175 MandyManners

As a contrast, the person who SHOULD be our President (if the Democrats and Republicans hadn't spoiled the election) is actually DOING something. Cynthia McKinney is courageously taking part in a shipment of medical aid that will break through the siege of Gaza. She is onboard a ship leaving from Cyprus on a mission organized by Free Gaza, a group that has successfully defied the siege several times in the last five months.

LOL! The delusion is strong with this one.

Israel's navy should sink it as a hostile's ship aiding and abetting the enemy.

179 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:53:36am

re: #170 sattv4u2

TOMORROWS HEADLINE:
Fomer Presidential candidate and CongressWoman Cynthia McKinney witnesses first hand Israeli atrocities in the Gaza Strip

It would be even better if the headline read.... The Late Former Presidential candidate and Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney....

180 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:53:37am

re: #175 MandyManners

As a contrast, the person who SHOULD be our President (if the Democrats and Republicans hadn't spoiled the election) is actually DOING something. Cynthia McKinney is courageously taking part in a shipment of medical aid that will break through the siege of Gaza. She is onboard a ship leaving from Cyprus on a mission organized by Free Gaza, a group that has successfully defied the siege several times in the last five months.

LOL! The delusion is strong with this one.

Don't touch him! The stupidity rubs off!

181 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:53:44am

re: #165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Funny they talk about all the aid needed when at the time they took over Gaza the greenhouses etc were pristine. The lack of maintenance or even basic care for these things is a large part of the lack of resources problem.

182 3 wood  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:54:02am

re: #162 Desert Dog

Just keep dropping the bar lower and lower as needed, eh?

Facts don't matter with these people.

They worship the idol they have created and they will not let it's image be damaged.

183 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:54:26am

re: #175 MandyManners

As a contrast, the person who SHOULD be our President (if the Democrats and Republicans hadn't spoiled the election) is actually DOING something. Cynthia McKinney is courageously taking part in a shipment of medical aid that will break through the siege of Gaza. She is onboard a ship leaving from Cyprus on a mission organized by Free Gaza, a group that has successfully defied the siege was deemed too unimportant for Israel to bother stopping several times in the last five months.

LOL! The delusion is strong with this one.

Fixed.

184 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:54:35am

re: #159 Bloodnok

Holy crap.

Save that shit!

It'll go great on an Obama Plate™ - limited to one per Dem askhole.

185 eon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:54:49am

Morning, Lizards.

What can I say? We have elected a resume'-lite, accomplishment-challenged, radical-"progressive" overaged gangsta-wannabee to the single most powerful office on this planet.

I'm torn between hoping he goes totally "gangsta" on us, launches a campaign to remake the U.S. in his own weird image (ala' Carter), and gets his party turfed out of control of Congress in '10 and himself laughed off the stage in '12, and hoping he tries to continue his "hide in a closet during votes" Senate tenure policy now that he's in the Big Chair, and winds up as an even bigger laughingstock than Bill Clinton did. The drawback to the latter is that Bill managed to hang on for eight years.

I'm not sure the world can take eight years of The Exalted One's policies.

/No, I'm not optimistic- based on having lived through JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Carter, and Mr. Bill, and studied the debacles' that were Wilson, Coolidge, Cleveland, and Hoover.

Of course, as a Monty Python fan, I at least should find the coming bizarreness ironically amusing. I am going to stock up on popcorn just in case.

cheers

eon

186 3 wood  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:54:58am

re: #173 christheprofessor

Actually, they have two religions -- the other being Global Warming/Save the Planet crap...

Good point, but I believe they would drop the global warming worship if they needed to to save Obama.

187 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:55:12am

re: #181 Rustler

The savages destroyed them first chance they got. I suppose that helped them save on maintenance costs, now that I think about it.

188 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:55:57am
189 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:56:07am

And then Obama posed with four babies.
/let them bring the little children to me, because I am a politician
/not to mention, The Messiah

190 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:56:30am

re: #175 MandyManners

A tiny open-air prison with 1.5 million inhabitants,

OH MY F*CKING GOD

Tha Gaza Strip should be one of THE most desired vacation spots IN THE WORLD. The beaches there are amazing. Resorts could be built there and the "Palastinians" would never again have to worry about jobs or money.

191 Miss Trixie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:56:52am

re: #154 SteveC

We're saved!

Cynthia McKinney to the rescue!

And lookee who's also there:

and Sami al-Hajj, an Al Jazeera reporter and former detainee at Guantanamo.

This guy's rubbed shoulders with none other than Bilal Hussein and we must be reassured that clear, concise non-biased media reporting will result and win the day.

///////////

192 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:57:16am

re: #188 SteveC

Email Cynthia! She could hop aboard one of those buses and haul her fat arse right no in there.

193 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:57:44am

re: #178 Gang of One

Israel's navy should sink it as a hostile's ship aiding and abetting the enemy.

I don't see the Israeli's sinking a ship carrying a former presidential candidate.

194 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:57:49am

re: #188 SteveC

Egypt is letting trucks in.

So in other words, Iran is sending Hamas more guns rockets and suicide vests....

195 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:57:54am

re: #192 ArmyWife

ON in there. ON. ON.

196 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:58:12am

re: #180 SteveC

Don't touch him! The stupidity rubs off!

Not even with a 10-foot pole.

197 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:58:16am

re: #190 sattv4u2

A tiny open-air prison with 1.5 million inhabitants,

OH MY F*CKING GOD

Tha Gaza Strip should be one of THE most desired vacation spots IN THE WORLD. The beaches there are amazing. Resorts could be built there and the "Palastinians" would never again have to worry about jobs or money.

It ain't in their genes!

198 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:58:53am

re: #195 ArmyWife

ON in there Prancer. ON Dancer. ON Dasher and Vixen.

199 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:59:01am

re: #183 Bloodnok

That wasn't Ms Blair's sister's group?

200 christheprofessor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:59:33am

re: #186 3 wood

Good point, but I believe they would drop the global warming worship if they needed to to save Obama.

Agreed. If the Enlightened One abandons Global Warming, the media will to, as he will have shown it to be the farce it is.

However, he won't -- the entire Global Warming/Climate Change scam is meant to be the tool by which socialism is foisted upon us. He will embrace it in my opinion (though I've read otherwise)...

201 marinegrunt  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 5:59:37am

Mr "O" take your shaka and your scuzzy ass off my Marine Corps Base.

202 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:00:16am

re: #169 Miss Trixie

Not to mention bike-riding.

This guy's worse than Nuancy-Boy Jon Karie.

Can you imagine the field day the MSM would have had with a pic of GWB riding around on a bike with a flat tire? It would have been page 1, above the fold news for days.

203 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:00:22am

re: #178 Gang of One

Israel's navy should sink it as a hostile's ship aiding and abetting the enemy.

How about a short diversion...to say the Gulf of Aden...the coast of Somalia....

204 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:00:39am

re: #188 SteveC

Egypt is letting trucks in.

Is Hamas still keeping the wounded from being taken to Egypt?

205 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:01:27am

re: #190 sattv4u2

A tiny open-air prison with 1.5 million inhabitants,

OH MY F*CKING GOD

Tha Gaza Strip should be one of THE most desired vacation spots IN THE WORLD. The beaches there are amazing. Resorts could be built there and the "Palastinians" would never again have to worry about jobs or money.

The only money Hamas cares about buys guns and rocket parts.

206 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:01:33am

re: #201 marinegrunt

Mr "O" take your shaka and your scuzzy ass off my Marine Corps Base.

Indeed!
Is he staying on (inside) Kaneohe, or was he just using the gym?

207 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:01:40am

Well folks, time for this lizard to scuttle off to work... sigh, vacations disappear so quickly...

208 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:01:52am

re: #200 christheprofessor
"
If the Enlightened One abandons Global Warming
"

Never bite the hand that feeds ya !

209 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:02:01am

Good morning y'all - from a coolish (53 degrees going up to 61 degrees) overcast and rainy Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

210 MadJadBad  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:02:06am

Uber-cool? When a 45 year old poindexter acts like that it looks uber-dorky. I do not want my president to be Steve Urkle.

211 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:02:11am

re: #207 doriangrey

Well folks, time for this lizard to scuttle off to work... sigh, vacations disappear so quickly...

Morning!
Have a great day.

212 Gang of One  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:02:26am

re: #193 MandyManners

I don't see the Israeli's sinking a ship carrying a former presidential candidate.

Maybe then seizing it and charging the crew and passengers with espionage.

213 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:02:44am

re: #201 marinegrunt

Mr "O" take your shaka and your scuzzy ass off my Marine Corps Base.

Well, he is the soon-to-be Commander in Chief.

214 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:02:55am

re: #207 doriangrey

Be productive!

215 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:02:57am

re: #209 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a coolish (53 degrees going up to 61 degrees) overcast and rainy Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Never did get your e-mail last night...

216 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:03:11am

re: #203 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

How about a short diversion...to say the Gulf of Aden...the coast of Somalia....

Now you're talking.

217 doriangrey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:03:34am

re: #211 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Morning!
Have a great day.

Morning PBMB.....

218 christheprofessor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:03:36am

re: #208 sattv4u2

"
If the Enlightened One abandons Global Warming
"

Never bite the hand that feeds ya !

Yup. Remember, the day he was elected was the day the oceans stopped rising...

219 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:03:41am

re: #206 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Indeed!
Is he staying on (inside) Kaneohe, or was he just using the gym?

He and his family are staying at a private, rented house.

220 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:03:52am

Imagine Reuters saying the same thing about George Bush - or any Republican for that matter?
would never happen.

221 eon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:04:04am

re: #175 MandyManners

As a contrast, the person who SHOULD be our President (if the Democrats and Republicans hadn't spoiled the election) is actually DOING something. Cynthia McKinney is courageously taking part in a shipment of medical aid that will break through the siege of Gaza. She is onboard a ship leaving from Cyprus on a mission organized by Free Gaza, a group that has successfully defied the siege several times in the last five months.

LOL! The delusion is strong with this one.

I'll say- she thinks she's Eva Marie Saint in Exodus (d. Otto Preminger, 1965).

The irony of heading for Gaza by ship from Cyprus no doubt totally escapes the MSM, but I'm sure McKinney thinks it's all "symbolic".

/Not having one whit of understanding of why that sort of thing happened from 1946 to 1948, at all.

cheers

eon

222 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:04:12am

re: #213 MandyManners

And this has personally affected me. Mr. ArmyWife now says he is rethinking his retirement (in 18 months) because he doesn't want Barry to sign his certificate thingy they give retirees.

223 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:04:16am

re: #219 MandyManners

He and his family are staying at a private, rented house.

Ah ha. Thanks.

224 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:04:24am

re: #210 MadJadBad

Uber-cool? When a 45 year old poindexter acts like that it looks uber-dorky. I do not want my president to be Steve Urkle.

Post of the morning!

225 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:05:06am

re: #212 Gang of One

Maybe then seizing it and charging the crew and passengers with espionage.

I don't see them arresting a former presidential candidate, either. Maybe taking her into protective custody.

226 Miss Trixie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:05:12am

re: #202 rightymouse

Can you imagine the field day the MSM would have had with a pic of GWB riding around on a bike with a flat tire? It would have been page 1, above the fold news for days.

Yup. Actually, I was waiting for The One to do something like this - he's soooo clueless.

227 Rustler  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:05:32am

re: #185 eon
Well resume light ran with a message against resume-supreme who had no message. I truely believe that had John had a message and gotten the message out he would have won. Instead he ran on an impressive service record.

228 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:05:32am

re: #194 doriangrey

So in other words, Iran is sending Hamas more guns rockets and suicide vests....

No food, medicine or clothing in them, I bet

229 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:06:04am

re: #221 eon

I'll say- she thinks she's Eva Marie Saint in Exodus (d. Otto Preminger, 1965).

The irony of heading for Gaza by ship from Cyprus no doubt totally escapes the MSM, but I'm sure McKinney thinks it's all "symbolic".

/Not having one whit of understanding of why that sort of thing happened from 1946 to 1948, at all.

cheers

eon

I doubt many know the history of Israel.

230 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:06:12am

re: #190 sattv4u2

Tha Gaza Strip should be one of THE most desired vacation spots IN THE WORLD. The beaches there are amazing. Resorts could be built there and the "Palastinians" would never again have to worry about jobs or money.

And risk losing their pathetic victim status with the world?

231 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:06:12am

This is quite nauseating. The other day I read a post on Yahoo! news that stated the Obama's were without power for 11 hours. This is what the MSM bought. Years of pointless stories about the One. Just wait until you get this headline: Obama has diarrhea.

232 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:06:28am

re: #215 doriangrey
Hey dorian - I don't understand that - cause I just hit reply to your e-mail, so my "e-mail" shoulda returned directly to the one you sent yours from - and it didn't come back to me, either!
Crap.

233 eon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:06:42am

Oops. Exodus, 1960, not 1965.

No idea how that happened, and pimf was no help.

More coffee, eon.

cheers

eon

234 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:06:52am

re: #222 ArmyWife

And this has personally affected me. Mr. ArmyWife now says he is rethinking his retirement (in 18 months) because he doesn't want Barry to sign his certificate thingy they give retirees.

He'd rather stay on in a military CBBHO might screw to the floor?

235 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:07:01am

re: #225 MandyManners

I don't see them arresting a former presidential candidate, either. Maybe taking her into protective custody a rubber room.

236 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:07:27am

The pictures are getting progressively worse.

Marvel as clean-clothed Pali firefighters extinguish a pile of freshly smoking dirt and rubble (I'm no fire chief but the post in the middle doesn't show much fire damage-looks like a regular condemned building to me.)

237 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:07:34am

Uh, hey y'all what the hell is a "shaka" anyway? Is that that index and pinky finger thingie that means essentially, don't worry be happy?!

238 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:07:55am

re: #231 NYCHardhat

This is quite nauseating. The other day I read a post on Yahoo! news that stated the Obama's were without power for 11 hours. This is what the MSM bought. Years of pointless stories about the One. Just wait until you get this headline: Obama has diarrhea.

I would've thought that a house rented by a future president would have back-up generators.

239 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:08:30am

re: #235 sattv4u2

That would work.

240 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:08:54am

I want to see my Uber-President body-surfing at Makapu`u!
*throb*
*salivate*
*leg tingle*

/

241 sbvft contributor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:08:56am

don't know if someone posted this already, but see this also:

He’s So Fine: CBS Early Show Explores ‘How Cool is “The Man” Obama?’

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

"On Friday morning’s The Early Show on CBS, viewers were treated to what almost seemed like a parody of Barack Obama’s mainstream media paparazzi fawning over the Democratic President-elect, as the show ran a report exploring the question of "How cool is Obama?" and co-hosts Harry Smith and Tracy Smith referred to Obama as "the man" and "the epitome of cool," respectively. Audio of the classic rock group the Chiffons singing "He’s So Fine" even played as the piece on Obama’s "coolness" began. Tracy Smith oozed as she plugged the segment: "We’re actually talking about how a lot of people think that President-elect Barack Obama is the epitome of cool. Look at that guy. Everything, I mean, even in a baseball cap. Don’t you think?" After Harry Smith referred to a New York Times article about the significance of Obama spending his childhood in Hawaii, Tracy Smith added: "That makes him even cooler.""

242 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:09:05am

re: #238 MandyManners

I would've thought that a house rented by a future president would have back-up generators.

Is it news worthy? Yeah I know, rhetorical question.

243 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:09:11am

re: #237 realwest

Uh, hey y'all what the hell is a "shaka" anyway? Is that that index and pinky finger thingie that means essentially, don't worry be happy?!

The article has a photograph.

244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:09:11am

re: #237 realwest

Uh, hey y'all what the hell is a "shaka" anyway? Is that that index and pinky finger thingie that means essentially, don't worry be happy?!

Think it's a surfer sign for "hang loose".

245 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:09:28am

re: #234 MandyManners

I didn't say it was logical! Perhaps that will make it bad enough that he won't care about the signature. We have 2 friends that had their retirement packages denied and are now packing up for Afghanistan.

(the signature really isn't the issue. The Army is his life and he doesn't want to think about not being in it, he is just trying to figure out how to say just that!)

246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:09:48am

re: #238 MandyManners

It did.

247 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:09:52am

re: #237 realwest

Uh, hey y'all what the hell is a "shaka" anyway? Is that that index and pinky finger thingie that means essentially, don't worry be happy?!

Yes, but as I pointed out earlier, his pinky doesn't look extended in the photo (IMHO) So either the editor attached the wrong photo to the story, or the writer didn't know what the Shaka symbol really looked like

248 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:10:05am

re: #236 Bloodnok

The pictures are getting progressively worse.

Marvel as clean-clothed Pali firefighters extinguish a pile of freshly smoking dirt and rubble (I'm no fire chief but the post in the middle doesn't show much fire damage-looks like a regular condemned building to me.)

Looks like a total fake to me.

249 marinegrunt  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:10:18am

re: #213 MandyManners

Well, he is the soon-to-be Commander in Chief.

The Marine Corps already have a Commander in Chief, he goes by the title of Commandant Of The Marine Corps.

250 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:10:18am

re: #236 Bloodnok

The pictures are getting progressively worse.

Marvel as clean-clothed Pali firefighters extinguish a pile of freshly smoking dirt and rubble (I'm no fire chief but the post in the middle doesn't show much fire damage-looks like a regular condemned building to me.)

Is that the same guy posing the other day, pointing off to some imaginary spot?

251 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:10:28am

re: #240 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I want to see my Uber-President body-surfing at Makapu`u!
*throb*
*salivate*
*leg tingle*

/

How ya' doin' this morning, Chrissy?

252 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:10:43am

re: #231 NYCHardhat
OY! NO - that's waay TMI! LOL! And I can't believe that the future POTUS would stay anywhere where they don't have back up generators; last time I was in Oahu they were mandatory for the big hotels.
God, we're gonna have a President Putz.

253 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:10:58am

re: #236 Bloodnok

The pictures are getting progressively worse.

Marvel as clean-clothed Pali firefighters extinguish a pile of freshly smoking dirt and rubble (I'm no fire chief but the post in the middle doesn't show much fire damage-looks like a regular condemned building to me.)

You're right. There wasn't any fire to speak of in there.

254 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:11:22am

re: #249 marinegrunt

The Marine Corps already have a Commander in Chief, he goes by the title of Commandant Of The Marine Corps.

sorry, but HIS superior is the POTUS

(don't blame me,,,, talk to the Founding Fathers! )

255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:11:39am

re: #253 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You're right. There wasn't any fire to speak of in there.

But the dust was awful! Allergies. Whew!

256 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:11:45am

re: #242 NYCHardhat

Is it news worthy? Yeah I know, rhetorical question.

We might not have known that the island was without power if CBBHO had not been there.

257 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:12:10am

re: #252 realwest

OY! NO - that's waay TMI! LOL! And I can't believe that the future POTUS would stay anywhere where they don't have back up generators; last time I was in Oahu they were mandatory for the big hotels.
God, we're gonna have a President Putz.

Just wait when this guy gets a shoe thrown at him. It will be considered an assassination attempt.

258 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:12:11am

re: #251 MandyManners

How ya' doin' this morning, Chrissy?

*palpitate* !

259 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:12:45am

re: #256 MandyManners

We might not have known that the island was without power if CBBHO had not been there.

You're good.

260 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:12:47am

re: #245 ArmyWife

I didn't say it was logical! Perhaps that will make it bad enough that he won't care about the signature. We have 2 friends that had their retirement packages denied and are now packing up for Afghanistan.

(the signature really isn't the issue. The Army is his life and he doesn't want to think about not being in it, he is just trying to figure out how to say just that!)

If he retires, can the Army re-up him involuntarily for two years?

261 abolitionist[deleted]  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:13:04am
262 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:13:16am

re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It did.

I didn't know that.

263 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:13:56am

re: #249 marinegrunt

The Marine Corps already have a Commander in Chief, he goes by the title of Commandant Of The Marine Corps.

Ummmmm...I was talking about the president who does outrank the Commandant.

264 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:14:34am

re: #243 MandyManners
Yea I know that but "The hand gesture, also a common greeting in surfer culture, consists of curling the three middle fingers and extending the thumb and little finger." and he ain't sticking out his pinky finger, in fact at best he looks like he's trying to hitchhike - how the fuck cool is that?
Not cool at all.
Not even a bit.
Like I said , President Putz.

265 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:14:44am

Way to go, self. Piss off a Marine this early.

266 christheprofessor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:14:57am

re: #257 NYCHardhat

Just wait when this guy gets a shoe thrown at him. It will be considered an assassination attempt.

Only if Richard Reid throws it at him...

267 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:14:58am

re: #260 MandyManners

I don't really know, I'd have to ask him.

268 Desert Dog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:15:04am

re: #236 Bloodnok

The pictures are getting progressively worse.

Marvel as clean-clothed Pali firefighters extinguish a pile of freshly smoking dirt and rubble (I'm no fire chief but the post in the middle doesn't show much fire damage-looks like a regular condemned building to me.)

This the guy on the hose, the same dude as Pointer?

269 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:15:28am

re: #259 NYCHardhat

It might've been a blurb in the LAT if he wasn't there.

270 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:15:39am

re: #240 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I want to see my Uber-President body-surfing at Makapu`u!
*throb*
*salivate*
*leg tingle*

/

He's our president beef cake. And the world loves us because our media love him.

271 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:16:11am

re: #245 ArmyWife
Yeah, I know guys who quit after like 18 years when Bush I was elected cause they wanted their discharge signed by Ronnie!

272 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:16:11am

re: #270 FrogMarch

except all those people who still want us dead.

273 eon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:16:36am

re: #231 NYCHardhat

This is quite nauseating. The other day I read a post on Yahoo! news that stated the Obama's were without power for 11 hours. This is what the MSM bought. Years of pointless stories about the One. Just wait until you get this headline: Obama has diarrhea.

This morning utility company crews from here in Ohio are heading for the Detroit area, along with crews from four other states, because about 200,000+ customers are out due to high winds plus heavy snows and ice over the weekend.

Meanwhile, in related news, the environmentalists are rallying to force The One to divert the funding for his "infrastructure renewal" jobs program to "green" projects. They want windmills and solar cells and light rail and electric buses- any money spent on roads (for those eeevill gas-guzzlers and semis) and improving conventional electrical power generation and delivery (which involves actually generating electricity) is a "threat to Holy Mother Gaia" and will not be permitted.

Look for The One next year to be telling people in the Great Lakes states that power failures are all their fault for "not conserving enough".

/Channeling "Grayout" Davis

cheers

eon

274 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:16:38am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

275 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:17:15am

re: #267 ArmyWife

I don't really know, I'd have to ask him.

I remember when dickhead was about to retire he was re-upped. But, he speaks Arabic fluently.

276 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:17:16am

Good Morning Lizards. Everyone ready for the New Year in Obamaland?

277 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:17:32am

re: #253 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You're right. There wasn't any fire to speak of in there.

Here's another pic of the same fire. My guess is burning newspaper.

278 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:17:32am

re: #271 realwest

That's funny. He will be 37 when he gets his 20, so if staying in is what he wants, we will manage. I just hope The One doesn't make it intolerable.

279 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:17:53am

re: #247 sattv4u2
Ah, GMTA! How are you doing this morning?

280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:18:09am

re: #274 HoosierHoops

Kinda a frisky group this morning Hoops. My Cowboys died yesterday. Which is okay, because THEY SUCK!

281 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:18:36am

re: #272 ArmyWife

except all those people who still want us dead.

Maybe we should challenge their leaders to a surfing contest!

282 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:18:55am

Will the White House kitchen now serve poi?

Will we see 0Bambi doing a hula at a pig-roast in the Rose Garden come spring?

Will he give his State of the Union messages with a feather cape around his shoulders?

283 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:19:00am

re: #273 eon

I suggest a new tactic. Since the world seems to be heading in a cooling trend, why don't we declare all the algore efforts a BIG HUGE SUCCESS so he can quite already.

284 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:19:31am

re: #280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Kinda a frisky group this morning Hoops. My Cowboys died yesterday. Which is okay, because THEY SUCK!

Cowboys looked like they just gave up.. Even the Lions played hard every Sunday...

285 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:19:36am

re: #279 realwest

Ah, GMTA! How are you doing this morning?

exhausted ,,,, leaving here within 30 minutes.

HOME
BED
SLEEP
DREAM.

Wake up, shower and come back for another fun filled 12 hours!

286 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:19:36am

re: #273 eon

This morning utility company crews from here in Ohio are heading for the Detroit area, along with crews from four other states, because about 200,000+ customers are out due to high winds plus heavy snows and ice over the weekend.

Meanwhile, in related news, the environmentalists are rallying to force The One to divert the funding for his "infrastructure renewal" jobs program to "green" projects. They want windmills and solar cells and light rail and electric buses- any money spent on roads (for those eeevill gas-guzzlers and semis) and improving conventional electrical power generation and delivery (which involves actually generating electricity) is a "threat to Holy Mother Gaia" and will not be permitted.

Look for The One next year to be telling people in the Great Lakes states that power failures are all their fault for "not conserving enough".

/Channeling "Grayout" Davis

cheers

eon

I see no silver lining in the cloud that is the Obama administration.

287 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:19:57am

re: #204 MandyManners

Is Hamas still keeping the wounded from being taken to Egypt?

Some of the Twitter users are saying that the wounded are being taken out through Egyptian checkpoints, but I haven't found a news source for it. After all, you can say anything you want on Twitter, just keep it below 140 characters.

/Twitters "SteveC is a little green man"

288 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:19:58am

UN: At least 57 Palestinian civilians killed since start of operation[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Hum, 57 in UN/Palestinian talk correlates into what actually?

289 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:19:58am

re: #281 MandyManners

They are all dressed so much better than The One. Sigh.

290 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:20:16am

re: #272 ArmyWife

except all those people who still want us dead.

Once they witness the grandeur of president beef cake, beloved by all who leg tingle, their hatred and desire to kill us will melt away.
/Just wait until Obama has an opportunity to have a conversion with them.

291 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:20:22am

re: #268 Desert Dog
Hey Desert Dog - sure looks like him! Maybe he has a twin - or someone working in the photo department
at Getty or Reuters (or maybe Getty and Reuters used the same photographer?)?!

292 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:20:30am

re: #280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Kinda a frisky group this morning Hoops. My Cowboys died yesterday. Which is okay, because THEY SUCK!

hey ,, how do you think I feel. The Patriots WON, have 11 WINS and didn't get into the playoffs!

293 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:20:36am

re: #288 Nevergiveup

.5

294 IgofAntioch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:20:41am

How old is this guy? 15? We need an adult president!

295 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:20:50am

re: #280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Kinda a frisky group this morning Hoops. My Cowboys died yesterday. Which is okay, because THEY SUCK!

I think the coach of the Browns is gonna be fired. They suck too.

296 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:21:02am

re: #284 HoosierHoops

I'd defend my Cowboys if I felt they deserved it.

297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:21:37am

re: #292 sattv4u2

Go figure.

298 marinegrunt  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:21:39am

re: #265 MandyManners

No Mandy, you could never piss off this old Grunt, after all you have a soft spot for those calendar "Beef Cake Jarheads"

299 eon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:21:39am

re: #241 sbvft contributor

don't know if someone posted this already, but see this also:

He’s So Fine: CBS Early Show Explores ‘How Cool is “The Man” Obama?’

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

"On Friday morning’s The Early Show on CBS, viewers were treated to what almost seemed like a parody of Barack Obama’s mainstream media paparazzi fawning over the Democratic President-elect, as the show ran a report exploring the question of "How cool is Obama?" and co-hosts Harry Smith and Tracy Smith referred to Obama as "the man" and "the epitome of cool," respectively. Audio of the classic rock group the Chiffons singing "He’s So Fine" even played as the piece on Obama’s "coolness" began. Tracy Smith oozed as she plugged the segment: "We’re actually talking about how a lot of people think that President-elect Barack Obama is the epitome of cool. Look at that guy. Everything, I mean, even in a baseball cap. Don’t you think?" After Harry Smith referred to a New York Times article about the significance of Obama spending his childhood in Hawaii, Tracy Smith added: "That makes him even cooler.""

One more reason I do not watch CBS News. I used to like CBS News Sunday Morning with Charles Kuralt, but today I find it unwatchable as well. (Is it even still on the air since Kuralt's passing?)

Today, CBS "News" is essentially E! Entertainment for the factually challenged.

cheers

eon

300 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:21:58am

re: #295 rightymouse

I think the coach of the Browns is gonna be fired. They suck too.

Both GM and Coach were fired (I thought.)

301 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:22:08am

re: #278 ArmyWife
Me too! But it depends on what your hubby does in the Army that'll make a difference in how he get treated.

302 hermit  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:22:08am

Goodmorningeverybody!

Quick drive-by 'cause I just found THIS: Cooliris 1.9 when I went to update Cooliris Previews. So basically, I have a wicked new toy! If you have FireFox - go check this out.

Well, I'm off to play! Blessings on you all!

303 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:22:11am

re: #275 MandyManners

We have cute nick names for each other, too!

(Just kidding, I know who you mean)

304 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:22:34am

re: #300 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Both GM and Coach were fired (I thought.)


That was what I heard, but haven't checked yet.

305 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:22:55am

re: #154 SteveC

We're saved!

Cynthia McKinney to the rescue!

Accidents happen

306 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:22:56am

re: #282 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Will the White House kitchen now serve poi?

Will we see 0Bambi doing a hula at a pig-roast in the Rose Garden come spring?

Will he give his State of the Union messages with a feather cape around his shoulders?

No to the hula but, this would not be the first administration that brought the president's home-state's cuisine to the table.

307 abolitionist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:23:10am

re: #261 abolitionist

Oops. Charles, I overlooked an email thingy there. Please delete if appropriate. My apologies.

308 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:23:12am

re: #292 sattv4u2

hey ,, how do you think I feel. The Patriots WON, have 11 WINS and didn't get into the playoffs!

Some stories just have sweet storybook endings...

309 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:23:30am

Here's Bush looking uber-cool.

Ah those were the days when Americans could be proud of their commander in chief....

310 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:23:32am

re: #287 SteveC

Some of the Twitter users are saying that the wounded are being taken out through Egyptian checkpoints, but I haven't found a news source for it. After all, you can say anything you want on Twitter, just keep it below 140 characters.

/Twitters "SteveC is a little green man"

What's a Twitter?

311 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:23:41am

re: #288 Nevergiveup

Hum, 57 in UN/Palestinian talk correlates into what actually?

Means they were ordinary Hamas fighters -- NOT members of the al-Qassam Brigades (Hamas' combat force).

312 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:24:00am

re: #277 Bloodnok

Here's another pic of the same fire. My guess is burning newspaper.

Yes it definitely appears to be a small debris fire in an unburnt building. Could have been a pile of trash or something that was already there that they lit for the picture. My question is there are definitely buildings being destroyed by the Israelis. Why stage a picture like this? Do the real targets show something they don't want the rest of the world to see.

313 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:24:05am

Obama's uber cool wearing a White Sox cap? Really? The White Sox are cool?

Could have fooled me.

314 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:24:05am

re: #274 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops!
You're fired. As my union rep with dorian, I mean. He actually DID play guitar for a band that won a Platinum album! Dorian could make a fortune for me I could help dorian make a fortune!

315 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:24:11am

re: #301 realwest

He is a medic by MOS, currently a 1SG and has been told by "higher ups" he is being watched for "future opportunities upon his next promotion" whatever that means (cue ominous music).

316 Super-ego  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:24:34am

Did half the country elect Obama because they were star struck? I think so. This article is very telling of our current cultures view on an "image." The cultures "self-esteem" is determined by how good one looks in the mirror wearing a material possession.

Does the current culture even know the difference between self-confidence and self-esteem? IMHO, they do not.

317 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:25:07am

re: #289 ArmyWife

They are all dressed so much better than The One. Sigh.

He does have a good body to dress--tall and fairly lean.

318 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:25:09am

re: #288 Nevergiveup
I think the UN translation device says: two.

319 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:25:41am

re: #241 sbvft contributor

don't know if someone posted this already, but see this also:

He’s So Fine: CBS Early Show Explores ‘How Cool is “The Man” Obama?’

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

"On Friday morning’s The Early Show on CBS, viewers were treated to what almost seemed like a parody of Barack Obama’s mainstream media paparazzi fawning over the Democratic President-elect, as the show ran a report exploring the question of "How cool is Obama?" and co-hosts Harry Smith and Tracy Smith referred to Obama as "the man" and "the epitome of cool," respectively. Audio of the classic rock group the Chiffons singing "He’s So Fine" even played as the piece on Obama’s "coolness" began. Tracy Smith oozed as she plugged the segment: "We’re actually talking about how a lot of people think that President-elect Barack Obama is the epitome of cool. Look at that guy. Everything, I mean, even in a baseball cap. Don’t you think?" After Harry Smith referred to a New York Times article about the significance of Obama spending his childhood in Hawaii, Tracy Smith added: "That makes him even cooler.""


I thought the word 'cool' was mostly used by kids on tests when they don't understand the question, let alone know the answer. Something like: Question: "What is unique about the ameoba" Answer: "It's totally cool".

320 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:25:53am

re: #298 marinegrunt

No Mandy, you could never piss off this old Grunt, after all you have a soft spot for those calendar "Beef Cake Jarheads"

Oh, you put a big grin on my face this early! Thank you!

321 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:25:59am

re: #308 HoosierHoops

Some stories just have sweet storybook endings...

hey ,,, i'm proud of them. They were decimated by the injury bug this year. They lost one of the 5 best players in the league (Brady) for the entire year. They lost their starting and primary back-up running back for most of the year. They lost their starting free safety and a staring corberback for the year. They lost their most verstatle defensive player for the year. They started 42 different players!

322 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:25:59am

This is how The Republic falls, with a White Sox hat and a uber-cool President.

323 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:26:21am

re: #284 HoosierHoops

Cowboys looked like they just gave up.. Even the Lions played hard every Sunday...

Yea seeing the picture of Romo looking so sad after the game all I could think about was, cheer up you are a millionaire who sleeps with Jessica Simpson how bad could it really be.

324 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:26:23am

re: #285 sattv4u2
LOL! Yeah, I DO feel for ya; 12 hour shift jobs can't be fun after, oh, say the first or second shift!

325 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:26:29am

re: #308 HoosierHoops

re: #321 sattv4u2

hey ,,, i'm proud of them. They were decimated by the injury bug this year. They lost one of the 5 best players in the league (Brady) for the entire year. They lost their starting and primary back-up running back for most of the year. They lost their starting free safety and a staring corberback for the year. They lost their most verstatle defensive player for the year. They started 42 different players!

AND ,, if they had beaten the Colts (which they should have) they would have been in!

326 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:26:41am

re: #314 realwest

Good morning Hoops!
You're fired. As my union rep with dorian, I mean. He actually DID play guitar for a band that won a Platinum album! Dorian could make a fortune for me I could help dorian make a fortune!

Yea.. The whole thing is you can't fired me for another 2 years when we have elections again..
I appreciate your dues..Now get out of my office!
:)

327 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:26:45am

re: #303 ArmyWife

We have cute nick names for each other, too!

(Just kidding, I know who you mean)

You should've heard some of the stuff I called him during the divorce. It'd curl your hair.

328 eon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:27:24am

re: #283 ArmyWife

I suggest a new tactic. Since the world seems to be heading in a cooling trend, why don't we declare all the algore efforts a BIG HUGE SUCCESS so he can quite already.

I'd thought about it, too. (After all, "declaring victory" and getting out is a standard progressive gambit.) But since the goal of the hysteria (whether about "global warming " now or a "coming Ice Age" three decades ago) is the destruction of Western civilization, the abolishment of technology (except for the enlightened elite') and the reduction of most survivors to serfs in agrarian socialist, Bronze Age-level communes (on the elites' feudal estates), I don't see it happening until they can pull the plug on the rest of us. Literally.

/Myself, I'm studying up on how to live "off the grid"- just in case I wake up one morning and the "grid" isn't there any more, as it were.

cheers

eon

329 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:27:25am

re: #321 sattv4u2

hey ,,, i'm proud of them. They were decimated by the injury bug this year. They lost one of the 5 best players in the league (Brady) for the entire year. They lost their starting and primary back-up running back for most of the year. They lost their starting free safety and a staring corberback for the year. They lost their most verstatle defensive player for the year. They started 42 different players!

Hey satt - reminds me of the Bears a few years back.

330 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:27:28am

re: #323 kcladderman

Have you ever heard Jessica Simpson attempt to communicate?

331 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:27:49am

re: #306 MandyManners

No to the hula but, this would not be the first administration that brought the president's home-state's cuisine to the table.

Oh, I'm aware of that.

Have you ever tasted poi? Works well in various masonry construction applications. Is also the next-step-up beyond waterboarding.

332 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:28:04am

There are also a ton of different pictures fromdifferent angles of explosions near that single house with seemingly no road going to or from it. If that house wasn't there that might be a good spot for an artillery range. Could more than one cameraman have "gotten lucky" by being there for that shot?

333 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:28:47am

re: #330 ArmyWife

Have you ever heard Jessica Simpson attempt to communicate?

I woul;dn't mind hearing her moaning! (but I'll pass on the 'pillow talk")

BAD SATT ,,, BAD BAD BAD

334 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:28:53am

re: #310 MandyManners

What's a Twitter?


[Link: www.twitter.com....]

superfast (supersmall!) messaging system that you can run off the web or a cell phone. Timewaster, basically. Supposedly the Muambi attackers communicated with twitter.

335 gregg  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:29:07am

re: #201 marinegrunt

Mr "O" take your shaka and your scuzzy ass off my Marine Corps Base.

You would think that the $5 million compound where he's vacationing would have its own gym. I wonder if it's all for show?

336 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:29:10am

re: #296 Fat Bastard Vegetarian What? I mean I heard Romo had a fever and all before the game which is why he played so poorly.
Doesn't explain why the 'Boy's defense played so poorly, though.

337 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:29:16am

re: #317 MandyManners

He does have a good body to dress--tall and fairly lean.

Which means he'd look good on the pages of the Victoria's Secret catalog.

338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:29:20am

re: #323 kcladderman

Yea seeing the picture of Romo looking so sad after the game all I could think about was, cheer up you are a millionaire who sleeps with Jessica Simpson how bad could it really be.

Read an article this morning, he collapsed in the showers (his back has been giving him problems). OK, then. Tony, if you can't play, please sit down.

It is heroic to play through an injury and lead your team to victory.
It is stupid to play through an injury and lead your team into the jaws of hell.

339 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:29:31am

re: #335 gregg

ya think?

340 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:29:42am

re: #331 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh, I'm aware of that.

Have you ever tasted poi? Works well in various masonry construction applications. Is also the next-step-up beyond waterboarding.

Anything like grits?

341 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:30:05am

re: #333 sattv4u2

*whack*

342 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:30:18am

re: #330 ArmyWife

Have you ever seen Jessica Simpson in a bikini?
/

343 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:30:22am

re: #340 MandyManners

Hey! Grits are GREAT. Just don't put sugar on them (ewww). Butter, salt and pepper.

344 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:30:29am

re: #338 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Read an article this morning, he collapsed in the showers (his back has been giving him problems). OK, then. Tony, if you can't play, please sit down.

It is heroic to play through an injury and lead your team to victory.
It is stupid to play through an injury and lead your team into the jaws of hell.

I've got $20 says that "collapse" was "helped" by an irate teammate!

345 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:30:54am

re: #325 sattv4u2

re: #321 sattv4u2


AND ,, if they had beaten the Colts (which they should have) they would have been in!


Maybe now you get to feel the tears of despair after the Pat's beat the Colts year after year...
Really though.. It's not fair a 11 win team sits at home.

346 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:31:00am

re: #334 SteveC

www.twitter.com.

superfast (supersmall!) messaging system that you can run off the web or a cell phone. Timewaster, basically. Supposedly the Muambi attackers communicated with twitter.

I wonder if the live one was communicating by "twitcher" right after he was caught.

347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:31:00am

re: #344 sattv4u2

I've got $20 says that "collapse" was "helped" by an irate teammate!

Not takin' that bet.

348 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:31:12am
349 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:31:17am

re: #299 eon
Hi eon! The same is true for ALL the morning shows; even Fox and Friends - which features one smart woman and two men both of whom are dumber than bricks - is the same way - well, maybe not so fawning over President Elect Putz, but the same thing.
Cheers!

350 sbvft contributor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:31:37am

re: #330 ArmyWife

Have you ever heard Jessica Simpson attempt to communicate?

"Communicate"? Have you heard her singing?

351 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:31:37am

I can understand BHO being allowed to visit the base dining room as the base commander's guest but given that he is a private citizen why is he being allowed to use the base gym? For the next three weeks he has no legal right to do so, he isn't even a Senator.

352 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:31:37am

re: #337 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Which means he'd look good on the pages of the Victoria's Secret catalog.

CBBHO's a cross-dresser?!

353 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:31:44am

re: #312 kcladderman

Yes it definitely appears to be a small debris fire in an unburnt building. Could have been a pile of trash or something that was already there that they lit for the picture. My question is there are definitely buildings being destroyed by the Israelis. Why stage a picture like this? Do the real targets show something they don't want the rest of the world to see.

Thanks! I might be a bit trigger happy on the fauxtography conspiracies this morning.

354 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:31:45am

re: #345 HoosierHoops

Maybe now you get to feel the tears of despair after the Pat's beat the Colts year after year...
Really though.. It's not fair a 11 win team sits at home.

well , in retrospect it is, seeeing one of the losses was against the Chargers

355 Irish Rose  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:31:46am

What are the qualitities that give a man or a woman Presidential stature?

Not apparently, a 71-year old man who survived five years of internment in a prison camp with a broken body, 23 years of military service, 16 years of public service in Washington and a lifetime of service to this country.

No, these were not the qualities that aging liberal socialist hippies and hip young voting Americans were looking for in our President and next CIC.

No indeed. What Americans wanted:

Great pecs
A golden, sunkissed beach bod
A cool dude with a sculpted, athletic pysique who (according to our press corps) looks orgasmic in tight jeans
A hip brotha who shoots hoops, uses street slang, knows how to manipulate the system, and wears his baseball caps on backwards

He has less than one year experience as a junior senator, absolutely no experience working with foreign goverments and no military experience whatsoever that would qualify him to be our commander in chief, but hey... priorities!

If you voted for this man, wasted your vote or didn't vote at all you deserve exactly what you're going to get for the next four years.

356 USBeast  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:31:51am

Oh God. We are saddled with a president who can't even wear a baseball cap properly. Will someone please tell him that, if you are not a catcher or a welder, wearing your cap backwards does not make you look cool. It makes you look like an idiot.

357 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:32:15am

re: #302 hermit
Hi hermit - bye hermit!

358 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:32:17am

re: #343 ArmyWife

Hey! Grits are GREAT. Just don't put sugar on them (ewww). Butter, salt and pepper.

I was raised in the South but, I never could get into grits.

359 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:32:17am

re: #321 sattv4u2
I feel your pain. Making the playoffs (no matter how long they lasted) would have been a great way to wrap up the season. Now they have to deal with Cassel/Brady (I assume they'll try to get something for Cassel, but isn't he a free agent?) and figuring out who's gonna be healthy on defense/at running back next year.
Oh, Mangini just got the axe.

360 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:32:25am

re: #352 MandyManners

now THAT would be an uber-cool news story.

361 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:32:32am
362 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:32:42am

re: #356 USBeast

Oh God. We are saddled with a president who can't even wear a baseball cap properly. Will someone please tell him that, if you are not a catcher or a welder, wearing your cap backwards does not make you look cool. It makes you look like an idiotic 15 year old .

addendum

363 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:32:58am

re: #355 Irish Rose

Hiya Rose...

364 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:33:11am

re: #340 MandyManners

Anything like grits?

NO WAY! (and I'z a Southern boy!)

Think glue.

365 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:33:35am

re: #351 lifeofthemind

I can understand BHO being allowed to visit the base dining room as the base commander's guest but given that he is a private citizen why is he being allowed to use the base gym? For the next three weeks he has no legal right to do so, he isn't even a Senator.

Impeach him.

366 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:33:39am

re: #364 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It can't be worse than vegemite.

367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:33:41am

re: #358 MandyManners

I was raised in the South but, I never could get into grits.

And grits could not get into me. Yech!

368 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:33:51am

re: #346 MandyManners

I wonder if the live one was communicating by "twitcher" right after he was caught.

"Ut-oh, gotta run. C U la8ter!"

369 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:33:53am

re: #310 MandyManners
It means excited I think, as in "The crowd was all atwitter awaiting President Putz arrival!"

370 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:33:53am

re: #355 Irish Rose

A gazillion up-dings.

371 Irish Rose  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:34:23am

re: #363 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hiya Rose...

Hiya, FBV ;).

372 NYCHardhat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:34:27am

I really hate this man. I am really disappointed with the 52% of Americans that voted for this POS. You have set my generation back 25 years.

373 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:34:43am

re: #360 ArmyWife

now THAT would be an uber-cool news story.

The MFM would hide it. CBBHO could have sex with a goat in the Rose Garden at high noon, and the MFM would ignore it.

374 rawmuse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:34:47am

Lately I work with kids. It is always the irretrievably stupid ones that wear their caps backward. And, what's worse is, they like being stupid. To them, stupid is cool.

375 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:34:48am

re: #359 Lincolntf

I feel your pain. Making the playoffs (no matter how long they lasted) would have been a great way to wrap up the season. Now they have to deal with Cassel/Brady (I assume they'll try to get something for Cassel, but isn't he a free agent?) and figuring out who's gonna be healthy on defense/at running back next year.
Oh, Mangini just got the axe.

After Mulroney went out, the "running back via commitee" actually worked well.
In total, the offense was pretty good. It was the defense that couldn;'t overcome the injury bug

376 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:34:59am

I'll see your shaka and raise youA Chest Bump

377 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:35:11am

re: #364 pre-Boomer Marine brat

NO WAY! (and I'z a Southern boy!)

Think glue.

And, sand.

378 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:35:16am

re: #359 Lincolntf

I feel your pain. Making the playoffs (no matter how long they lasted) would have been a great way to wrap up the season. Now they have to deal with Cassel/Brady (I assume they'll try to get something for Cassel, but isn't he a free agent?) and figuring out who's gonna be healthy on defense/at running back next year.
Oh, Mangini just got the axe.


The Bears should throw a truck full of money at Cassel..

379 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:35:28am

re: #352 MandyManners

CBBHO's a cross-dresser?!

*cough*
I was merely responding to your comment regarding his body structure.

/ask Michelle ... on second thought, don't

380 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:35:56am

re: #313 lawhawk
Why should you be different? President-Elect Putz fooled some 68 million American Voters!
But I agree - but I'm glad it's the White Sox, not the Yankees. At least Bush had the gracy to not where the Texas cap!

381 Silas  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:36:00am

That sucking sound you’ll be hearing from now on when Obama’s name is mentioned is the liberal media. They’ll be brown-nosing up to him every chance they get. Oh wait! Was that statement about brown-nosing racist?

382 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:36:00am

re: #351 lifeofthemind

I can understand BHO being allowed to visit the base dining room as the base commander's guest but given that he is a private citizen why is he being allowed to use the base gym? For the next three weeks he has no legal right to do so, he isn't even a Senator.

Where should he go? Gold's Gym?

It's about security.

383 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:36:59am

re: #366 ArmyWife

It can't be worse than vegemite.

Whazzat?

384 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:37:16am

re: #382 MandyManners

Where should he go? Gold's Gym?

It's about security.

I imagine that a Marine Base Gym'd be one secure fucking place.

385 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:37:46am

re: #383 pre-Boomer Marine brat

See here

386 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:37:58am

re: #374 rawmuse

Lately I work with kids. It is always the irretrievably stupid ones that wear their caps backward. And, what's worse is, they like being stupid. To them, stupid is cool.

Yep. I used to work in a museum and help with the school tours. The Idiots always thought that their idiocy was cool. "You guys need to get your s*** together and get an education" always fell on deaf ears.

387 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:38:00am

re: #356 USBeast

Oh God. We are saddled with a president who can't even wear a baseball cap properly. Will someone please tell him that, if you are not a catcher or a welder, wearing your cap backwards does not make you look cool. It makes you look like an idiot.

It's a slap in the face particularly given everything that Bush did to present a dignified, intelligent face to the world. All that good work is now ruined and yes, this is sarcasm.

388 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:38:03am

I'm reminded of the saying during the Cold War when we were supporting some pretty bad characters: He might be a sonofabitch but, he's our sonofabitch.

389 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:38:04am

re: #315 ArmyWife
Ah, ordinarily as a First SGT I'd be worried about being riffed if I were him, but not if his MOS is medic.
He's probably safe, but if he doesn't act soon, his discharge papers and Honorable Discharge Certificate will be signed by Obama.
But the Army needs men like him, I hope he stays in!

390 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:38:17am

This is about apiece of anti-Semitism from Greece.
HT Israelycool

391 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:38:24am

Need some coffee this morning, bbiab!

392 eon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:38:46am

re: #356 USBeast

Oh God. We are saddled with a president who can't even wear a baseball cap properly. Will someone please tell him that, if you are not a catcher or a welder, wearing your cap backwards does not make you look cool. It makes you look like an idiot.

There is only one other legitimate reason to wear a ball cap the wrong way around- namely, to clear optics, as in mounted binoculars on a ship's flying bridge, or the exit bell of a sharpshooter's 'scope. Two other things The One would not be caught doing, I'm sure, to avoid alienating his "core constituency" of touchy-feeley, bong-sucking, rainbows n' unicorns n' butterfly-believing overage flower children.

I've often wondered if it is possible for one person to make a laughingstock of an entire nation. It looks like we may be about to find out the hard way.

cheers

eon

393 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:40:15am

Who says "uber" anymore? That's so 2006, noob.

394 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:40:20am

re: #389 realwest

He can't get out now, he has to make his 20. He has 18 months to go.

395 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:40:55am

re: #382 MandyManners

Where should he go? Gold's Gym?

It's about security.

Why not? The USSS could sweep it, or he can put a crowbar in his wallet and buy a Bowflex. The point is that the taxpayers don't owe him the perks. We provide the security but everything else should be on his dime.

396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:41:30am

Oh, I should be fair. I have turned my cap around before. Sometimes you don't want the shadow over your eyes. But go back outside, turn hat around.

397 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:41:42am

Did anyone see Mike Wallace's interview with Mrs. Bush this weekend? She has class and grace.

398 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:41:43am

DAY 3

Looks like Charles couldn't sleep this morning either.

The silence from the US, Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia is a big green light for Israel to pound Hamas to oblivion.

DM Barak, running in an election, declared Israel's war today against Hamas "a fight to the finish." This is really bad news for Hamas. Especially when Israel just bombed half their tunnels with deep penetrator bombs and Egypt is blocking access to the Sinai. Hamas is cut off and facing a completely enraged Israel. They should have released Shalit and stopped firing rockets when they had the chance. But then Hamas would not be Hamas and not backed by Iran to the tune of a couple billion in military aid and assistance. Barak, unlike his predecessor, is not a complete military imbecile, ffar from it, he is a very accomplished general, seeking personal and political redemption from Israeli voters as to himself- Barak deeply recognizes the his failings as PM and most especially with respect to his disastrous pullout from south Lebanon in 2000. Barak understands victory and he understands voters. This spells doom for Hamas. Hamas is not coming out of this war in power over Gaza, their little Somalia on the Mediterranean is over; Israel's military policy is regime change and the people to do it are in charge with all green lights to go all the way.

Someone, not Israel, is going to have to govern Gaza, PA President Abbas, if he can keep a lid on things on the West Bank, may just find himself back in power in Gaza with Egyptian "help.". After Hamas' miserable economy-destroying government and Israeli reoccupation, a reunified, PA under the relatively less corrupt PA PM American Professor Fayaz, will seem like an Athenian Golden Age to Gazans who have been more starved of life and opportunity than from actual hunger. Most importantly, this will begin the governmental interdependence between Israelis and Palestinians that is the only viable and true path to peace. It may seem odd to talk of such things while the bombs are flying but, the whole point fighting a war is to get the peace you want- how you fight the war determines the peace you actually get.

And THAT brings us to the elephant in the room, Iran. Senior Iranian psychopaths are already calling for the entire Islamic world to wage Jihad against Israel. You can't call Israel a "stinking rotting corpse," refer to Jews as "vermin" and then let said corpses and vermin kick your "heroic and steadfast" proxy's butt all across the region. If you are unelected dictators, it looks bad and undermines your regime. But doing nothing risks their strategy of having The One tie Israel's hands while they get the Bomb. For the Ayatollahs, this war could not have come at a worse time. It forces them to make choices. They really liked having 250,000 Jews in range of their Gaza rockets; just like their beloved Hitler, they adore the chance to indiscriminately shell civilians and Jewish civilians are, as we all know, double points.

So the Iranians have to do something or risk losing Hamas altogether but if they do too much they risk Israel widening the war, possible US intervention, and losing Hezbollah too. If Israel is willing to destroy Hamas, Israel is willing to destroy Hezbollah and the Syrian regime too. Does Iran believe that Hezbollah defeated Israel in 2006? If they do, they will attack believing international pressure will stop the war before Israel goes to far or they can use enough rocket to stop an Israeli victory. Syria, which had, up until days ago, been in brokered peace talks with Israel via Turkey, Assad gets Hobson's choice, bet the whole hog on Iran, because if Israel goes for victory and Syria is in the war, Assad's regime will be destroyed. My bet is, if escalation comes Syria will come in with Iran, praying the war stays in Lebanon and the UN can prevent the regime from destruction. You have to have big stones to play in this poker game.

399 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:42:07am

re: #395 lifeofthemind

Why not? The USSS could sweep it, or he can put a crowbar in his wallet and buy a Bowflex. The point is that the taxpayers don't owe him the perks. We provide the security but everything else should be on his dime.

I'm reminded of the saying during the Cold War when we were supporting some pretty bad characters: He might be a sonofabitch but, he's our sonofabitch.

400 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:42:27am

re: #378 HoosierHoops

Somebody is going to, that's for sure.

401 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:42:34am

re: #385 ArmyWife

See here

hmmm ... thanks!

Especially thanks because a link at the bottom told me what Bovril is! (Finding out had been way down on my round-tuit list, and forgotten when the computer was running. This helped.)

402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:42:34am

re: #397 midwestgak

Did anyone see Mike Wallace's interview with Mrs. Bush this weekend? She has class and grace.

Did anyone see Mrs. Bush's portrait? Wow.

403 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:42:38am

re: #383 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Whazzat?

Vegemite is the Australian Weapon of Mass Destruction.

404 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:42:53am

re: #398 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Israel blew up the Islamic University yesterday.

405 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:42:55am

re: #359 Lincolntf


Oh, Mangini just got the axe.

Muahahahahaaaaa! My morning has been made. I hope loppyd sees this.

406 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:43:02am

re: #395 lifeofthemind

Why not? The USSS could sweep it, or he can put a crowbar in his wallet and buy a Bowflex. The point is that the taxpayers don't owe him the perks. We provide the security but everything else should be on his dime.

It would cost more to do that than have him go to a bases gym.

407 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:44:04am

re: #404 MandyManners

Israel blew up the Islamic University yesterday.

sad, because the one book they had there was almsot unused!

408 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:44:12am

re: #383 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Whazzat?

409 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:44:18am

re: #344 sattv4u2
ROTFL! NO - didn't you hear he had the flu or somesuch which is why he had such a poor game!

410 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:44:41am

re: #396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But you are not the President or President Elect. A certain amount of class and dignity ought to be displayed when you are in that role. Gansta NEVER says "Trust me, my intellect and my judgement"

411 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:44:49am

re: #409 realwest

ROTFL! NO - didn't you hear he had the flu or somesuch which is why he had such a poor game!

my bet still stands

412 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:44:59am

re: #395 lifeofthemind

Why not? The USSS could sweep it, or he can put a crowbar in his wallet

"Barak Obama is in booking? Why?"

"We picked him up for assault and battery, Chief."

"Oh, Jeebus!"

"He said we didn't have to call him that, Chief. `Mr. President' would do just fine."

413 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:45:14am

re: #407 sattv4u2

sad, because the one book they had there was almsot unused!

LOL! The labs were being used for ammo depots.

414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:45:23am

re: #405 Bloodnok

Marinelli got fired. I didn't see that coming.

415 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:45:25am

re: #401 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I am always here to help.

416 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:45:33am

re: #345 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops - yes, they are an 11 win team and it doesn't seem fair, but look who's in their division? I mean that's gotta be 8 wins right there!

417 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:45:34am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Israel continues its attacks against Hamas, and Hamas is now pushing for yet another hudna.

Israel must reject all calls for truces and ceasefires and demand nothing less than the unconditional surrender of the terrorist group Hamas.

The Palestinians must taste the bitter sting of defeat and watch the terror masters frogmarched. They brought this war upon themselves, and must learn the bitter lessons thereof.

Israel must reject international pressure and remind the UN that all casualties inflicted in this war are the fault of no one but Hamas - but for Hamas firing all those kassams and mortars at Israel, Israel would not have attacked.

Hamas fired those missiles and rockets because it does not accept Israel's righ to exist, and has used Gaza as their launching pad. They hide behind civilians and engage in attacks on civilians to spread terror and inflict casualties on Israel.

That Hamas hasn't killed more people with those missiles and rockets is a miracle (and the majority of those killed and injured in the recent attacks are actually fellow Palestinians). Forget the numbers injured, and know only that it is the murderous intent to kill and maim that counts. Thousands of kassams and mortars were fired - each with the intent to kill and maim. That they were less than successful only means that Hamas doesn't have the sophistication to kill more with those weapons. And Israel should be thankful for that (of course, it was the fact that those attacks didn't kill and maim more - and far sooner that led Israel to hold off on going after Hamas until the latest major barrages).

418 sattv4u2  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:45:51am

re: #413 MandyManners

LOL! The labs were being used for ammo depots.

and the goats in the biology labs were being used for prom dates !

419 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:46:23am

re: #404 MandyManners

Israel blew up the Islamic University yesterday.

Here is the building after it was destroyed

420 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:46:25am

I posted this on the links, but I think it bears repeating here. Jamie Lee Curtis thinks that a new Great Depression will be good for you little people:

What this crisis is going to do is bring us into financial alignment. Families may have to live together again! What a concept. Grandparents will live with their grown children and help raise their grandchildren — even at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Neighbors are going to meal share and carpool and child care for each other and maybe even rent out parts of homes to other families. Less meat, more beans. Might be better for you anyway. Less indoor gym workouts and more walking, more park time, more family outdoor time.


/hat tip: Dirty Harry

421 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:46:27am
422 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:46:45am

re: #414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Marinelli got fired. I didn't see that coming.

Couldn't they give the poor guy a chance?

/Millen

423 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:47:23am

re: #388 MandyManners

I'm reminded of the saying during the Cold War when we were supporting some pretty bad characters: He might be a sonofabitch but, he's our sonofabitch.

Yes, and bitching every time someone says something nice about the president is "too Kos for comfort" as far as I'm concerned.

424 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:47:27am

re: #398 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Well done

425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:47:32am

Brady may not be back next year. Hmmm.

426 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:47:34am

re: #404 MandyManners

Israel blew up the Islamic University yesterday.

One building, IIRC, not the whole thing

427 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:47:34am

re: #404 MandyManners

Israel blew up the Islamic University yesterday.

Usually the only thing that gets blown at American Universities is.......ah never mind.

428 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:47:35am

re: #353 Bloodnok
Hey Bloodnok - don't blame yourself; ever since Charles uncoverd al-Reuters fauxtography bullshit, ya gotta take all the photos taken by stringers with a grain of salt!

429 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:47:41am

re: #422 Bloodnok

Who can be expected to win in the Bush economy? He needs a bailout.

430 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:47:44am

re: #417 lawhawk

and the majority of those killed and injured in the recent attacks are actually fellow Palestinians

Didn't they kill two little kids inside Gaza before Israel started responding?

431 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:48:17am

Jamie Lee got the bod, but she ain't got the brain. Major Fail!

432 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:48:19am

re: #418 sattv4u2

and the goats in the biology labs were being used for prom dates !

Susie sorority?

433 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:48:22am

re: #425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Brady may not be back next year. Hmmm.

Maybe they can sign Brett Farve for next year?
/

434 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:48:36am

He's gone native!
It's never too late to relive your childhood...especially the parts when you were 8y/o and said,... When I grow up...I want to be the PEOTUS !
Enjoy your vacation Obama. It may be the last one you get to take for a long while!

How to do the shaka sign
[Link: www.to-hawaii.com...]

435 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:48:38am

re: #425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Brady may not be back next year. Hmmm.

Your post made my computer sad.

436 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:48:56am

re: #355 Irish Rose
Morning Rose! Yeah but the rest of us don't deserve what we're gonna get over the next four years!

437 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:49:04am
438 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:49:18am

re: #419 kcladderman

Here is the building after it was destroyed

They got gangstas over there, even! I didn't know you could tag in Arabic.

439 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:49:30am

re: #435 Bloodnok

Your post made my computer sad.

Source, ESPN.com...

440 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:49:41am

re: #425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's the elephant in the room that we're not supposed to talk about.

441 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:50:03am

re: #420 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I posted this on the links, but I think it bears repeating here. Jamie Lee Curtis thinks that a new Great Depression will be good for you little people:


/hat tip: Dirty Harry

What a stupid, fucking bitch.

442 Ojoe  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:50:17am

Gag me with an uber-spoon.

443 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:50:23am

re: #417 lawhawk

The Prime Minister was interviewed over the weekend and stated that Israel warned the Palestinian civilians to leave areas where THEY KNOW Hamas hides out to avoid being harmed. Israel knows Hamas hides behind/around civilians. Warning the civilians is brilliant. Kinda takes the sting out of Hamas claiming civilians are being targeted.

444 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:50:47am

re: #423 Jimmah

Yes, and bitching every time someone says something nice about the president is "too Kos for comfort" as far as I'm concerned.

Right now I'm just hoping that he doesn't fuck us up too badly.

445 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:50:50am

re: #441 MandyManners

What a stupid, fucking bitch.

Tell us how you really feel, Mandy! :)

446 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:50:54am

Does this mean we can't make fun of the Obamessiah anymore? We can't call him by pet names (i.e. Dumbo), or wonder if He answers His own prayers? That would be a shame. If the MSM would just run with it, Obama would be comedy gold.

447 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:51:10am

re: #420 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I posted this on the links, but I think it bears repeating here. Jamie Lee Curtis thinks that a new Great Depression will be good for you little people:


/hat tip: Dirty Harry

Her Father from The Bronx knew better.

448 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:51:18am

re: #426 pre-Boomer Marine brat

One building, IIRC, not the whole thing

Must have pretty good intelligence to take out just the building with the ammo dump.

449 Maximu§  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:51:25am

Reuters reporter #1: Is that Obama coming out of the Gym?

Reuters female reporter #2: Yes it is...I feel faint, hold me! If only he would choose ME over that Michelle, I know I could make Barack happy.

Reuters reporter #1: Should'nt you be snapping photo's?

Reuters female reporter #2: Talk to me like that again and I'll kill you!

Reuters reporter #1: errrr yeah, I'll take the pictures today....

450 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:51:35am

re: #414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Marinelli got fired. I didn't see that coming.

Got the latest on the Browns. The GM was fired yesterday. Coach Rennel is expected to be fired today.

FOUR lousy seasons. These two should have been gone ages ago.

451 VioletTiger  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:51:47am

re: #397 midwestgak

Did anyone see Mike Wallace's interview with Mrs. Bush this weekend? She has class and grace.

So true. Enjoy it for a few more weeks. This too shall pass.

452 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:51:48am

re: #438 MandyManners

It was from a trip made by The One.

453 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:52:11am

re: #441 MandyManners

What a stupid, fucking bitch.

Mandy, it's not good to hold things in. Tell us how you really feel.

454 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:52:56am

re: #420 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And in the meantime, she undoubtedly expects to remain well-to-do.

/imbecilic *sshole!

455 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:53:01am

re: #445 SteveC

Tell us how you really feel, Mandy! :)

I rarely use that word when talking about women. My reaction was pretty visceral.

456 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:53:18am

re: #441 MandyManners

What a stupid, fucking bitch.

She should apologize to her boobs for associating them with such stupid opinions.

457 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:53:29am

re: #390 lifeofthemind

This is about apiece of anti-Semitism from Greece.
HT Israelycool

Oh nice!
We're back to the bad old days where newspapers, and not just the man on the Clapham bus, can say openly that everything is the fault of the Joooos.

Who's getting the royalties from the sale of the infamous 'Protocol of the Elders of Zion'?
They must be raking it in, looks like.

458 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:53:30am

re: #361 SteveC
Hey SteveC

An Egyptian paramedic says he was told Egypt would take about 20 to 30 Palestinian casualties to the hospital in the Sinai town of El-Arish. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not allowed to talk to the media.

Earlier Monday, Egypt allowed trucks with food and medical supplies to pass through its border crossing with the Gaza Strip.


Yep, that's some border lockdown the Egyptians have, isn't it (and I'm not talking about the wounded - assuming they are wounded and not Hamas big shots who are slipping away in ambulances)?

459 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:53:34am

re: #446 Iron Fist

Does this mean we can't make fun of the Obamessiah anymore? We can't call him by pet names (i.e. Dumbo), or wonder if He answers His own prayers? That would be a shame. If the MSM would just run with it, Obama would be comedy gold.

We don't need the MFM to run with anything.

460 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:53:39am

re: #454 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Let's ask her if we can move in next week.

461 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:53:42am

re: #446 Iron Fist

Does this mean we can't make fun of the Obamessiah anymore? We can't call him by pet names (i.e. Dumbo), or wonder if He answers His own prayers? That would be a shame. If the MSM would just run with it, Obama would be comedy gold.

Making fun of Lord High Commander Obama probably violates several laws, most of the accepted rules of decency, and probably hurts his widdle feelings.

Can we start today, or does anyone need to clear your schedule?

462 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:54:29am

re: #452 ArmyWife

It was from a trip made by The One.

They dissed his homies?

463 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:54:33am

re: #441 MandyManners

What a stupid, fucking bitch.

Doesn't she live in England where her husband is a baron?

464 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:54:36am

re: #450 rightymouse

Of Crennel, Mangini, Weis..all the ex-Pats coaches, it's hard to say any of them has really succeeded since they left. So much for hiring the 'hot" co-ordinator to be your head coach.

465 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:54:46am

re: #453 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Mandy, it's not good to hold things in. Tell us how you really feel.

Oh, I did.

466 unclassifiable  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:54:52am

This is going to be a real come down when the first über-cool turns out to be another stodgy Chicagoland backroom troll.

467 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:55:06am

re: #372 NYCHardhat
Uh, no disrepect intended, but it ain't your generation he's set back, it's the whole damn country - your generation doesn't have 66 million voters!

468 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:55:10am

re: #456 Jimmah

She should apologize to her boobs for associating them with such stupid opinions.

She should just shut the fuck up.

469 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:55:57am

re: #460 ArmyWife

Let's ask her if we can move in next week.

Can we bring our dog, cat and hamster?

470 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:56:06am

re: #443 midwestgak

The Prime Minister was interviewed over the weekend and stated that Israel warned the Palestinian civilians to leave areas where THEY KNOW Hamas hides out to avoid being harmed. Israel knows Hamas hides behind/around civilians. Warning the civilians is brilliant. Kinda takes the sting out of Hamas claiming civilians are being targeted.

I have problems with that actually. Israel would be telegraphing their moves and giving Hamas time to scurry away from where the attacks are to occur. If anything, those warnings actually increase the chances of civilian casualties as the terrorists are ruthless enough to hold Gazans and prevent them from moving away from the fighting and areas that Hamas needs to carry out its terror ops.

471 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:56:11am

re: #448 MandyManners

Must have pretty good intelligence to take out just the building with the ammo dump.

Perhaps Hamas is mo'sad than it was before.

/NO, MANDY ... PUT IT DOWN ... *OUCH*!

472 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:56:38am

Just wondering if at Barry's first State of the Union the Cabinet will be announced with , "Yo,yo, yo, here come da posse"
They all file in with backward baseball caps.

473 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:56:47am

re: #463 Bloodnok

Doesn't she live in England where her husband is a baron?

'Tis true. Baron Haden-Guest

474 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:56:55am

re: #469 MandyManners

Well of course! I plan on bringing my 3 dogs, cat and 3 horses. Its all about taking care of each other.

475 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:57:02am

re: #466 unclassifiable

This is going to be a real come down when the first über-cool turns out to be another stodgy Chicagoland backroom troll.

There's gonna' be some major cognitive-dissonance taking place.

476 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:57:23am

re: #463 Bloodnok

Doesn't she live in England where her husband is a baron?

I think he's a Guest.

477 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:58:00am

re: #471 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Perhaps Hamas is mo'sad than it was before.

/NO, MANDY ... PUT IT DOWN ... *OUCH*!

No whack here.

Does Israel have collaborators?

478 unclassifiable  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:58:09am

re: #434 notutopia

Yes.

When your culture has been conquered just make some shit up.

479 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:58:12am

re: #476 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

and now we shall ALL be Guests!

480 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:58:16am

re: #394 ArmyWife
Ah well, good luck to him - and you - then!

Uh wait a minute - I know guys who retired after 18 years and they still get retirment pay - course, they were swooshies, so there may be different rules!

481 eon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:58:17am

re: #398 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Excellent analysis.

I suspect that Israel hit them now precisely because January 20 was looming on the horizon. They no doubt concluded that any POTUS who regards Jimmy Carter as a brilliant diplomatist in the MidEast could not be relied on to look at the situation on the ground and see it for what it is as opposed to relying upon "progressive"/Arabist fabulation. Hence, the "least worst" alternative would be to present said POTUS with a fait' accompli before he was sworn in.

Plus, the Israeli people were getting fed up with repeatedly having to go to funerals while the criminals were alternating between rocket launches and "happy fire", plus the odd homicide bomber. There comes a point at which you have to say, "enough is enough", and accept that;

A. Your "neighbors" (all of whom want you dead for the "crime" of not being them) will continue to be hateful- and to be fawned over by the Western press and intelligentsia; and

B. Said press and "intelligentsia" will never be satisfied until you cease to exist, anyway. Because in their circles, hating you, and all those like you, is "a social distinction and a negotiable bond", as John Barron referred to the trendy Communism of the American upper classes in the period prior to the Hiss-Chambers case (in None Dare Call It Treason). And like that gilt-edged Marxism, it's "one of those things" that "everyone who is anyone" holds as a gospel truth, but that they never talk about in front of "the help"- i.e., the rest of us, aka the Great Unwashed.

Seen in this light, Israel's reaction was not "merely sensible"- it was overdue.

cheers

eon

482 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:58:42am

re: #463 Bloodnok

Doesn't she live in England where her husband is a baron?

10, 20, 30, 40, 50 or more, the bloody Red Baron was running up the score...!

483 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:59:40am

re: #464 Lincolntf

Of Crennel, Mangini, Weis..all the ex-Pats coaches, it's hard to say any of them has really succeeded since they left. So much for hiring the 'hot" co-ordinator to be your head coach.

Lerner has all the $$$ in the world to hire a decent GM and coach. We also have a HUGE fan base in Cleveland. You'd think the players could be given a chance. It's mind-boggling.

484 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 6:59:59am

re: #470 lawhawk

I have problems with that actually. Israel would be telegraphing their moves and giving Hamas time to scurry away from where the attacks are to occur. If anything, those warnings actually increase the chances of civilian casualties as the terrorists are ruthless enough to hold Gazans and prevent them from moving away from the fighting and areas that Hamas needs to carry out its terror ops.

I see your point, but it still frames the PR in Israel's favor. Good to see Israel's PR in the fact of Hamas' PR of "Israel is targeting children" bullsh*t.

485 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:00:14am

re: #474 ArmyWife

Well of course! I plan on bringing my 3 dogs, cat and 3 horses. Its all about taking care of each other.

Let's go buy a monkey.

486 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:00:14am

re: #398 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Outstanding post, as always.

Here's a little thing I'd like to add:

Egypt: Hizbullah declared war on us

Yes - you read that right: Egypt's foreign secretary really lays into Hizbullah.
So - if that war does indeed spread, Iran, Syria and Hizbullah will have to make do without Egypt. They'll stay neutral at best ...

487 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:00:31am

My point about Obama needing to pick up his own tab needs expanding. This guy has gotten a free ride for years. He got $14 million for his probably ghost written book in a deal that I think smells worse than what got Newt Gingrich in trouble. It could have been a shell for a payoff. He had his house bought for him by Rezko. His schools were paid for by who, maybe foreign money? If he is not a gov't employee for a month and he wants to work out then let him pay. The Secret Service are there for security, not to carry bags, arrange theater tickets or serve lunch.

488 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:00:50am

re: #460 ArmyWife

Let's ask her if we can move in next week.

YES! That suddenly brought back memories of the scene in Dr. Zhivago where Zhivago and the others returned from the country estate to their mansion in Moscow. It had been taken over. Did you ever see that movie?!

Jamie Leeeeee ... here we come!

489 wahabicorridor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:00:58am

posted in the spinoffs - ground offensive beginning?

490 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:01:22am

re: #404 MandyManners

Israel blew up the Islamic University yesterday.

According to Israellycool, bombs and bomb-making equipment was stored in the science labs there ...

491 unclassifiable  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:01:53am

re: #398 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I know this is going to be a bit controversial but at this point making Gaza an Egyptian protectorate is probably preferable to trying to re-establish Abbas' unwanted authority.

492 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:01:55am

re: #398 Ayatollah Ghilmeini Just another superb comment! I do think that Iran and Syria will stay out of this one, though - at least until that crazy cowboy Bush is outta office by which time it'll be all over for Hamas.
Also LOVE the way the Arab-Muslim world is NOT paying attention to the Persian-Muslim Shortshit - gives some indication of his lack of authority in the region.

493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:02:16am

Omelet time.... mmmmmm

494 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:02:30am

re: #444 MandyManners

Right now I'm just hoping that he doesn't fuck us up too badly.

Me too, but some people are positively slavering at the mouth in anticipation of him screwing up - they'll be delighted if he does, devastated and bitter if he doesn't. Just like the Kos kidz were with Bush - it don't look any prettier to me coming from the other side.

495 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:02:57am

re: #456 Jimmah

She should apologize to her boobs for associating them with such stupid opinions.

Thems some weapons, my friend

496 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:02:59am

Marketwatch: Oil stocks boost Wall Street

Some boost...the dow's down by 8, the compx down by 7 and the s&p's off by 3.

497 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:03:16am

re: #398 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Excellent analysis, and I would go further and point out that the Egyptians have pretty much put their chips on the table and are backing Israel's actions, and made the larger play against Iran.

Egypt's foreign minister has called out Iran and Hizbullah, noting that Hizbullah all but declared war on Egypt. That will not stand, and Egypt will let Israel deal with Hizbullah. Egypt's playing the power broker here - not Saudi Arabia (although I believe the Saudis are also doing plenty behind the scenes to undermine Iran and their proxies in Hamas and Hizbullah). Egypt couldn't really care about Israel, but they do have issues with the mad mullah Shi'ites in Iran.

498 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:03:22am

re: #412 SteveC
ROTFL! You are on fire this morning!

499 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:03:35am

re: #477 MandyManners

No whack here.

Does Israel have collaborators?

Hmmmmm.
Ya' think maybe?
The Mossad's one helluva intelligence service.
Hmmmmm.

500 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:04:19am

re: #485 MandyManners

Let's go buy a monkey.

You got one for free in yours truly.

501 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:05:10am

re: #468 MandyManners

She should just shut the fuck up.

Mandy, congratulations! You have just qualified to replace Blago as Governoror of Illinois. When can ya start?

502 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:05:11am

re: #425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mmmm - I wouldn't bet the ranch on Brady not being back next year.

503 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:05:12am

re: #490 yma o hyd

According to Israellycool, bombs and bomb-making equipment was stored in the science labs there ...

Yep. That's where I found it but I forgot to attribute it.

504 Silas  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:05:13am

re: #175 MandyManners

As a contrast, the person who SHOULD be our President (if the Democrats and Republicans hadn't spoiled the election) is actually DOING something. Cynthia McKinney is courageously taking part in a shipment of medical aid that will break through the siege of Gaza. She is onboard a ship leaving from Cyprus on a mission organized by Free Gaza, a group that has successfully defied the siege several times in the last five months.

LOL! The delusion is strong with this one.



Maybe she’ll make herself a human shield and stand next to a Palestinian rocket launcher to stop the Israeli war planes from shooting at it.

505 Penny T. Wienerdog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:05:17am

re: #450 rightymouse

Got the latest on the Browns. The GM was fired yesterday. Coach Rennel is expected to be fired today.

FOUR lousy seasons. These two should have been gone ages ago.

Does this mean that Washington has to bail out another failed Detroit entity?

506 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:05:21am
507 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:05:34am

re: #494 Jimmah

The difference is we will have the facts on our side, not just made up name calling crap or fantasy conspiracies such as Rahm melting unmeltable steel with his bare eyeballs. That said, should this cat do something dumb FOR REALS we will be all over it.

508 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:05:57am

re: #494 Jimmah

Me too, but some people are positively slavering at the mouth in anticipation of him screwing up - they'll be delighted if he does, devastated and bitter if he doesn't. Just like the Kos kidz were with Bush - it don't look any prettier to me coming from the other side.

At least folks on our side are thinking about that angle.

509 akak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:06:26am

41 dead in Pakistan....send billions quick before you run out of money!

510 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:06:42am

re: #417 lawhawk


The Palestinians must taste the bitter sting of defeat and watch the terror masters frogmarched. They brought this war upon themselves, and must learn the bitter lessons thereof.


That is worth repeating. You are 100% correct. we all know the quote from Robert E. Lee on growing fond of war. The Palestinians demonstrate that in spades. we are truly dealing with a clash of civilizations, or, more correctly, a clash between civilization and a barbaric, evil Ideology.

We cannot win this war simply by killing individuals, even if those individuals are high up in the chain of command. As long as the will to fight is there, they will be able to replace even the most important Martyr officers.

We cannot win this war by only> killing individuals. The whole of the "Palestinian" people must be made to suffer. We have to make it so bad for them that war becomes terrible to them again. Oh, the L³eft will whine and trot out Abu Grabass to illustrate how evil America is. They will call it collective punishment, but that's not exactly what it is. Mao said that the guerrilla must move through the people like a fish through. We can't win just by killing the occasional fish.

We need to drain the entire fucking pond. Yesterday wouldn't be a minute too soon.

511 unclassifiable  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:06:48am

re: #506 taxfreekiller

Grrrrr

bad mood just hangs on

some coyotes been bothering the old cows
going out to take it out on them,,,,,,, .30-06

That response is catching on.

512 eon  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:06:58am

re: #443 midwestgak

The Prime Minister was interviewed over the weekend and stated that Israel warned the Palestinian civilians to leave areas where THEY KNOW Hamas hides out to avoid being harmed. Israel knows Hamas hides behind/around civilians. Warning the civilians is brilliant. Kinda takes the sting out of Hamas claiming civilians are being targeted.

The Palestinian people in Gaza are in the same position as the hostages their "leaders" used to take to make demands of the West (for the release of terrorists, etc.). When rescue ops went in, said hostages tended to find out in no uncertain terms the true meaning of the SpecOps axiom; It Sucks To Be A Hostage.

The difference being, of course, that barring Stockholm Syndrome, hostages generally do not assist their captors even under duress, let alone voluntarily. I'm not sure the same can be said for the majority of Palestinians.

Have to run. Have a great day, Lizards.

cheers

eon

513 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:07:01am

re: #500 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You got one for free in yours truly.

*smoochies*

514 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:07:06am

re: #497 lawhawk

Excellent analysis, and I would go further and point out that the Egyptians have pretty much put their chips on the table and are backing Israel's actions, and made the larger play against Iran.

Egypt's foreign minister has called out Iran and Hizbullah, noting that Hizbullah all but declared war on Egypt. That will not stand, and Egypt will let Israel deal with Hizbullah. Egypt's playing the power broker here - not Saudi Arabia (although I believe the Saudis are also doing plenty behind the scenes to undermine Iran and their proxies in Hamas and Hizbullah). Egypt couldn't really care about Israel, but they do have issues with the mad mullah Shi'ites in Iran.

I don't have a link, but have heard that Germany has stated they will replace the withdrawing Norwegian troops as well as other European troops with their own. Anyone have additional info?

516 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:07:29am

re: #504 Silas

Maybe she’ll make herself a human shield and stand next to a Palestinian rocket launcher to stop the Israeli war planes from shooting at it.

Is she dumb enough?

517 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:08:12am
The president-elect, looking uber-cool with his White Sox baseball cap on backwards...


I know it's just a common modifier and the context should govern, but "uber" gives me the creeps. In my books it's right up there with "fuhrer" and "jawohl".
I just can't seem to shake the word's past associations, like Ubermensch and Deutschland uber alles.
Don't get me wrong - I can live with it and am not suggesting that it's use be curtailed, but for me at least it does remove any light-hearted humour from its usage.

518 redc1c4  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:08:32am

re: #482 SteveC

10, 20, 30, 40, 50 or more, the bloody Red Baron was running up the score...!

i have that on vinyl at the parents house.....

/first LP i ever bought

519 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:09:29am

re: #491 unclassifiable

Egypt has repeatedly stated - and it was confirmed by the Camp David talks in 1979 - that Egypt wants absolutely nothing to do with Gaza. It was as much of a headache for them as it has been for Israel.

520 jcbunga  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:10:47am

There isn't enough barf in the world to properly respond.

521 itellu3times  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:10:55am

re: #417 lawhawk

Israel must reject all calls for truces and ceasefires and demand nothing less than the unconditional surrender of the terrorist group Hamas.

Yes, but this won't do it.

Israeli spokesmen are driving me nuts, saying they have no war with "the people of Gaza". YES THEY DO. The people voted for Hamas.

I see the current Israeli tactics as ineffective, misguided.

522 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:10:59am

re: #453 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Mandy is very reserved. It's hard to get her to experess her emotions, and, even when you do get her to talk she is overly concillitory.

There are ways that this could be turned to our advantage. She might make a suitible candidate for Secretary of State. She's got the diplomatic resources,and she can learn on the job as easily as Hillary can.

523 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:11:19am

re: #505 Penny T. Wienerdog

Does this mean that Washington has to bail out another failed Detroit entity?

Detroit? The Browns are in Cleveland, Ohio.

524 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:11:34am

re: #507 ArmyWife

The difference is we will have the facts on our side, not just made up name calling crap or fantasy conspiracies such as Rahm melting unmeltable steel with his bare eyeballs. That said, should this cat do something dumb FOR REALS we will be all over it.

Nirth Certifikit anyone? The potential is there. Extreme political partisanship can bring one into conflict with reality, and with the interests of your own country - I believe that's true of both sides. Let's hope sanity prevails.

525 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:11:44am

re: #519 lawhawk

Egypt has repeatedly stated - and it was confirmed by the Camp David talks in 1979 - that Egypt wants absolutely nothing to do with Gaza. It was as much of a headache for them as it has been for Israel.

Why am I reminded of Chicago?

526 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:11:50am

re: #429 Lincolntf
It ain't the Bush economy - it's the Democratic Congress' economy - they not only write the laws (not Bush) but they appropriate the dough and Dodd and Frank were the chairmen of the Senate and House subcommittees that supposedly were providing oversight of the financial institutions that screwed the pooch with the Democratic COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT.

527 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:12:09am

re: #522 Iron Fist

Mandy is very reserved. It's hard to get her to experess her emotions, and, even when you do get her to talk she is overly concillitory.

There are ways that this could be turned to our advantage. She might make a suitible candidate for Secretary of State. She's got the diplomatic resources,and she can learn on the job as easily as Hillary can.

And she certainly has the dignity for the job!

528 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:12:22am

That's cold, man --

This message just appeared on Twitter:

Exchange rate of latest skirmish in Gaza: 296 Palestians for 1 Israeli. Buy Palestinians short if you can get em.....

529 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:12:39am

re: #522 Iron Fist

Mandy is very reserved. It's hard to get her to experess her emotions, and, even when you do get her to talk she is overly concillitory.

There are ways that this could be turned to our advantage. She might make a suitible candidate for Secretary of State. She's got the diplomatic resources,and she can learn on the job as easily as Hillary can.

Don't forget my big, fucking clue-by-four!

530 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:13:17am

re: #526 realwest

It ain't the Bush economy - it's the Democratic Congress' economy - they not only write the laws (not Bush) but they appropriate the dough and Dodd and Frank were the chairmen of the Senate and House subcommittees that supposedly were providing oversight of the financial institutions that screwed the pooch with the Democratic COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT.

Hi real. 100% correct. Thanks for saying it.

531 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:13:18am

re: #523 rightymouse

Detroit? The Browns are in Cleveland, Ohio.

It's easy to confuse them with The Lions.

532 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:13:39am

re: #524 Jimmah

Let me qualify - WE as in on this board. We did NOT partake in the nirthers little party, and called them out for the goofballs they were.

533 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:13:41am

re: #442 Ojoe

He will spoonfeed us all for the next 4 years Ojoe. Better eat up hearty now of that Bush BBQ that Putin thought was crap food...I think we're all going to lose alot of weight on the new Obama presidential diet plan.

534 unclassifiable  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:14:16am

re: #519 lawhawk

Egypt has repeatedly stated - and it was confirmed by the Camp David talks in 1979 - that Egypt wants absolutely nothing to do with Gaza. It was as much of a headache for them as it has been for Israel.

Well I give them a few props for at least showing some common sense. Still, it is their neighbor too and there seems to be a steady effort to use Egypt as the backdoor from Gaza. Theoretically, there should not be as many suicide bombings from Egyptian border crossings as with Israel but then again, theory is just about useless in that part of the world.

535 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:14:19am

re: #434 notutopia
Good morning - hey, y'all don't have to show Obama how to do the Shaka sign (notwithstanding his failure to get it right in the photo Charles provided) he was born in Hawaii and calls it his home away from home.
He knows how to do it, that photo was just President Elect Putz testing the media's knowledge!

536 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:14:23am

re: #519 lawhawk

Egypt has repeatedly stated - and it was confirmed by the Camp David talks in 1979 - that Egypt wants absolutely nothing to do with Gaza. It was as much of a headache for them as it has been for Israel.

Excellent analysis this morning, you should be a lawyer.

537 itellu3times  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:14:28am

re: #398 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Hamas is not coming out of this war in power over Gaza, their little Somalia on the Mediterranean is over; Israel's military policy is regime change and the people to do it are in charge with all green lights to go all the way.

Someone, not Israel, is going to have to govern Gaza, PA President Abbas, if he can keep a lid on things on the West Bank, may just find himself back in power in Gaza with Egyptian "help."

That may be the implicit goal, putting PA back in charge, but I have not heard Israeli or Egyptian or even PA spokesman say it yet - have you? Do you really expect Hamas to relinquish rule voluntarily? Do you expect the good people of Gaza to rise up and seize power?

538 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:14:36am

re: #529 MandyManners

Don't forget my big, fucking clue-by-four!

Speak softly and carry a large (male) stick....

539 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:15:09am
The paper also blamed U.S. President-elect Barack Obama for "playing dead" in the present crisis by not saying anything against the Jews, urging him to prove that he is not owned by the Jewish lobby.

The day that Obama was elected president, the paper ran a headline that said, "The end of Jewish domination. Everything changes in the U.S.A. and we hope that it will be more democratic and humane," drawing the ire of Jewish groups," JTA reported.

With friends like this...

540 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:15:10am

re: #508 MandyManners

At least folks on our side are thinking about that angle.

True. I just hope they don't end up being ostracised like people such as Hitchens were from the left for similar.

541 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:15:36am

OT:
Can't quite tell for sure, but that doesn't exactly look like a barricade being erected. It sort of looks like a kassam launch pad.

Meanwhile, the humanitarian aid continues flowing.

542 unclassifiable  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:15:38am

re: #529 MandyManners

And your Tourette's Syndrome that causes these uncontrollable outburst.

543 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:15:40am

re: #531 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's easy to confuse them with The Lions.


Who?

/lol!

544 DistantThunder  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:15:41am

Something about Obama is very juvenile. He has a teenage obsession with basketball and working out. He's trying too hard to be cool. Obama has Michelle as the nagging mother figure. He had Rev. Wright as the domineering, and embarrassing father figure.

He's is the ultimate beta-male.

545 Sizzlack  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:15:53am

I was unaware Reuters has tweens writing their articles.

546 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:16:16am

re: #446 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - Obama IS comedy gold - the MSM hasn't realized it yet or are afraid to recognize it in public.
That's why I call him President-Elect Putz, soon to be President Putz!
How y'all doing today?

547 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:16:19am

I just have to get this off my chest:
All those who are right now bewailing the fate of the 'innocent civilians' in Gaza are the same who have been telling us repeatedly that Hamas is not a terrorist organisation, but the democratically elected government of Gaza.

Now - if they're democratically elected, it was the civilian population who elected them, wasn't it?

Remember Nazi Germany? Didn't the Germans democratically elect Hitler and the Nazi Party? So - was the fate of the 'innocent German civilians' bewailed when they got bombed by the Allies? Didn't we hold them responsible for what happened to them, because of Hitler?
I seem to remember this ...

So - why is there suddenly this difference when its a question of the Arabs?
Has their propagand had such an immense success?
Would we have stopped bombing German cities if Goebbels had published endless pictures of bloodied children and wailing women?
I certainly would hope not!

548 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:17:43am

re: #537 itellu3times

No one will want to state that explicitly, because it would complicate matters for the PA, which is already seen as collaborators with Israel. In fact, that was one of the reasons that Hamas was successful in taking over Gaza - because they played up on the corruptness of Fatah, combined with the way that Fatah has played cozy with Israel from time to time.

Fatah needs to be seen as white knights, which is why Abbas is busy putting out statements denouncing Israel's actions, just as surely as they're cheering Israel's pounding of Hamas thugs.

549 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:17:47am

re: #497 lawhawk

I hope you are right. The Egyptians should be on the side of America and Israel. Hell, we pay them enough that they should be sending their best, combat ready shock troops to help in the dismantling of Hamasistan and Fatahistan.

We deserve some loyalty from our mercenary "allies" for the cash we are paying them. Time to step up.

550 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:17:54am

bbl

551 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:17:59am

re: #527 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And she certainly has the dignity for the job!

Remember our two best UN Ambassadors were both Democrats, Pat Moynihan and Jeanne Kirkpatrick. Scholarly and the took no crap from anyone.

552 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:18:28am

re: #463 Bloodnok
Uh, if so, wouldn't that make her a stupid, fucking Royal bitch?!
Just wondering...............!

553 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:18:41am

re: #544 DistantThunder

Something about Obama is very juvenile. He has a teenage obsession with basketball and working out. He's trying too hard to be cool. Obama has Michelle as the nagging mother figure. He had Rev. Wright as the domineering, and embarrassing father figure.

He's is the ultimate beta-male.

Just remember - when President Bush worked out, it was detrimental to carrying out the duties of the Office of the President. For Obama, it's a positive trait. /no media bias there.

554 Penny T. Wienerdog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:18:43am

re: #523 rightymouse

Detroit? The Browns are in Cleveland, Ohio.

My bad, I am suffering from post-Bears losing again season hangover. But don't be surprised if the Lions GM asks Washington to bail out their failed entity.

555 itellu3times  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:18:48am

re: #541 lawhawk

I think your links are not working.

All I know is, if there are mobs of civilians car-swarming and such, the attacks are still nothing but pinpricks.

556 DistantThunder  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:19:13am

re: #548 lawhawk

No one will want to state that explicitly, because it would complicate matters for the PA, which is already seen as collaborators with Israel. In fact, that was one of the reasons that Hamas was successful in taking over Gaza - because they played up on the corruptness of Fatah, combined with the way that Fatah has played cozy with Israel from time to time.

Fatah needs to be seen as white knights, which is why Abbas is busy putting out statements denouncing Israel's actions, just as surely as they're cheering Israel's pounding of Hamas thugs.

Abbas is a coward and another beta-male - otherwise he would have not survived as a sycophant of ARafat's.

557 Golem Akbar  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:19:37am

Good morning, boker tov, and dobry den' to Lizardland! Christmas is over, and Hannukah ends tonight. Guess I'll have to go back work very soon...

558 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:19:53am

re: #532 ArmyWife

Let me qualify - WE as in on this board. We did NOT partake in the nirthers little party, and called them out for the goofballs they were.

Some on this board did unfortunately, but they're mostly gone now.

559 rawmuse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:20:22am

re: #549 Iron Fist

We deserve some loyalty from our mercenary "allies" for the cash we are paying them. Time to step up.

I love your precious sense of optimism. Don't go changin'

560 DistantThunder  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:20:36am

re: #553 lawhawk

Just remember - when President Bush worked out, it was detrimental to carrying out the duties of the Office of the President. For Obama, it's a positive trait. /no media bias there.

I love that Pres. Bush gets dirty and banged up when he exercises - no fear.

561 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:21:10am

re: #489 wahabicorridor
Good morning {wahabi} we can only hope that the ground offensive is starting and that it's as successful as the IAF has been so far!

562 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:21:13am

re: #554 Penny T. Wienerdog

I am suffering from post-Bears losing again season hangover.

Me too. And we don't have a ton of injured players we can point to as an excuse. Arg

563 Golem Akbar  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:21:55am

I'm happy the press is still fawning over Obama (I really am). Prediction: the honeymoon will be over very soon after he takes office. Cough *unmet expectations*cough.

564 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:21:56am

re: #541 lawhawk

OT:
Can't quite tell for sure, but that doesn't exactly look like a barricade being erected. It sort of looks like a kassam launch pad.

Meanwhile, the humanitarian aid continues flowing.

For some reason, those links are not showing the right photos.

The first photo is #125 in the sequence.

The second is photo #97.

565 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:21:57am

re: #554 Penny T. Wienerdog

My bad, I am suffering from post-Bears losing again season hangover. But don't be surprised if the Lions GM asks Washington to bail out their failed entity.

As a Chiefs fan all i can say is Thank God for the Lions.

566 jaunte  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:21:59am

re: #547 yma o hyd

The propaganda works only because most people whose opinions it affects don't know about the shelling of Hama by the Syrian Baathists, or the Black September massacre.

567 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:22:05am

re: #535 realwest

Every Obama wanna be kid in baggy pants with their drawers exposed to the groin, will be doing this new
shaka thanks to the press. I bet by this midweek I see it flashed amongst the brothers here in the streets.
Prez Cult of Personality.

568 Penny T. Wienerdog  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:22:26am

Who was it that said we get the government we deserve? The 54% who voted for Obama are just as mature as he is. They are like the teenagers who throw wild parties and trash their houses when their parents go on vacation.

569 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:22:33am

re: #554 Penny T. Wienerdog

My bad, I am suffering from post-Bears losing again season hangover. But don't be surprised if the Lions GM asks Washington to bail out their failed entity.

Doesn't their owner have gazillions like the owner of the Browns? I don't think money is our problem at all. It's hiring sub-standard people for the job. My 14 year old son said to his Dad about the Browns coach during a game "Dad, that coach looks like he’s just standing there thinking of a nice Arbie’s roast beef sandwich”. Yep.

570 cavallino_rampante  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:22:53am

Word.

571 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:23:15am

Front page of local paper, huge picture of a dust-covered palistinian being helped from the rubble of central security HQ and prison in Gaza, along with headline "Isreal pounds Hamas tunnels", and first sentence of the story beginning "Israel widened its deadliest-ever air offensive against Gaza's Hamas rulers Sunday . . . ". The story is long, carries over into the inside.

Inside, on page 5 - a short article, no pix, about how missiles from Gaza have sent an Israeli hospital into underground bomb-shelter facilities.

Bias? No bias here, nothing to see, move along . . .

It's disgusting, how prevalent and how utterly obvious the bias is.

572 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:23:17am

re: #497 lawhawk
Morning lawhawk - an excellent post and summary of events over there. Such an unexpected side benefit too - all those Muslims ignoring Shortshit's call to arms!

573 ArmyWife  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:24:21am

I must tear myself away and go clean up this house.

574 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:24:50am

re: #541 lawhawk

Look at the expression of the guy with the beard (pic 138). From the way he looks (facial appearance) it looks more like he's holding a puppy than the body of a dead child. These people are sick. Maybe they should turn Gaza into the world's largest psychiatric hospital, and start shooting these motherfuckers up with Thorazine.

575 yochanan  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:25:11am

re: #403 lifeofthemind

Vegemite is the Australian Weapon of Mass Destruction.

MARMITE RULES!
vegemite drools


just kidding aussiemagpie

576 Miss Trixie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:25:47am

{realwest} Morning, darls *smoochie-smooch* Hope you and your mom had a loverly Christmas. What are your plans for New Year's Eve?

/I've ordered a coupla brunettes in hot pants for ya. :D

577 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:25:53am

My daughter asked me if she could go to the inauguration. Hoped I wouldn't be mad. Her best friends mom has tickets.

I told her that I'd be mad if she didn't go. I'd go to an inauguration if I...
a. had tickets.
b. could be helicoptered in/out of DC
c. did not have to be cold
d. had no lines to stand in

Sounds like a long day of historical inconvenience.

578 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:25:54am

re: #515 yma o hyd
Good morning {yma}! Uh, what time is that in terms of US Eastern time, do y'all know?

579 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:25:56am

re: #495 opnion

Thems some weapons, my friend

I wonder if the director of Trading Places knew before he had that scene shot, or was he just pleasantly surprised?

580 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:26:29am

re: #567 notutopia

Every Obama wanna be kid in baggy pants with their drawers exposed to the groin, will be doing this new
shaka thanks to the press. I bet by this midweek I see it flashed amongst the brothers here in the streets.
Prez Cult of Personality.


White Sox paraphernalia has always been popular with gang bangers along with Raiders stuff because of the cool colors. A really tricked out gansta has a Sox hat sideways or backwards & a Raiders starter jacket.
Obama will make it more popular. The irony is that White Sox President, Jerry Reinsdorf is a big time Republican.

581 VioletTiger  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:26:32am

re: #544 DistantThunder

Something about Obama is very juvenile. He has a teenage obsession with basketball and working out. He's trying too hard to be cool. Obama has Michelle as the nagging mother figure. He had Rev. Wright as the domineering, and embarrassing father figure.

He's is the ultimate beta-male.

We've seen kids grow up in the White House. Wonder if we will see a president do so? Then again, maybe not....

582 unclassifiable  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:27:07am

Gotta get on with today's stuff but I leave with the happy thought of 3 days of Hillary cussing up a storm every morning at the thought that she accepted the position of biggest POS cabinet position in The One's administration.

583 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:27:40am

re: #521 itellu3times
"I see the current Israeli tactics as ineffective, misguided" - apparently Hamas disagrees with you - and so does Shortshit, although he just disagrees with anything an American says.

584 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:27:40am

re: #577 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My daughter asked me if she could go to the inauguration. Hoped I wouldn't be mad. Her best friends mom has tickets.

I told her that I'd be mad if she didn't go. I'd go to an inauguration if I...
a. had tickets.
b. could be helicoptered in/out of DC
c. did not have to be cold
d. had no lines to stand in

Sounds like a long day of historical inconvenience.

No umbrellas will be allowed, so let's hope it doesn't rain for her sake.

585 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:28:00am

Looks like the IDF is preparing for the worst:

Deputy chief of staff: Worst still ahead

However - this would indicate that they are not going to retreat in the face of 'World Opinion' and the calls for cease fire by the usual suspects, especially the UNSC.

586 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:28:06am
587 wahabicorridor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:28:29am

re: #561 realwest

morning real. I was on for a short while this morning and posted some thoughts emailed by a friend who is working in Germany but travels all over (mostly) eastern Europe, including Russia. So I'll repost, as some might find it interesting.

some russians were asking me not to long ago, "who the hell is Obama?" To which I replied, "Alot of Americans are asking the same question." The Kremlin is not amused apparently. At least McCain had a track record.

I just drove back from Bavaria and the chatter on the radio was the usual anti-Israel schtick, however the words they used describing hamas were a bit more direct (eg. words like "islamic" "terror group") describing what they really are.

588 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:29:39am

Oh, HELL!

Israel just deployed a secret weapon.... flying soldiers!

Game over, Dudes, we win!

589 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:30:14am

re: #530 midwestgak
Hi there and you're more than welcome! I suspect that in four years we'll all be longing for the "good old days" of Dubya! And it might be shorter than four years, too.

590 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:30:16am

heh re: #588 SteveC

591 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:30:17am

re: #586 lawhawk

Mangini is gone as Jets coach.

Note to Joe Girardi: Hint Hint. Better WIN!

592 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:30:34am

re: #567 notutopia

What, exactly is a shoka? Is it a "black thing" that I cannot understand? Here's a clue for all the racist motherfuckers of any form of racism:

Obama is half-white

593 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:31:13am

re: #547 yma o hyd

So - why is there suddenly this difference when its a question of the Arabs?

Those uppity Jews just don't know their place. They are supposed to accept their pre-ordained role as perpetual scape-goats and whipping-boys.
How dare they kick Arab butt yet again?///

594 buzzdroid  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:31:26am

[Link: muqata.blogspot.com...]
"4:38 PM Israeli Navy once more in action, with gunboats firing rockets on coastal positions. Arab sources claim several killed and wounded including terrorists hiding in a mosque."

595 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:32:01am

re: #580 opnion

Jerry Reinsdorf will be so happy to get to accept those residuals from the sales off the White Sox caps. This is capitalist baseball loving America. I'm sure they're flying off the shelves as we speak. He's smiling.

596 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:32:06am

re: #592 Iron Fist

What, exactly is a shoka? Is it a "black thing" that I cannot understand? Here's a clue for all the racist motherfuckers of any form of racism:

Obama is half-white

He has disavowed his White blood, just like Malcom.

597 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:32:19am

re: #537 itellu3times
"Do you really expect Hamas to relinquish rule voluntarily?" No, I expect them to die.

598 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:32:27am

re: #71 sattv4u2

NOT to rain on everyone's parade (okay ,, so a little shower, maybe) but unless I'm missing something, in the photo, The One's little finger isn't extended a la "Hang Losse". His thumb looks to be pointing back to something. '
On the other hand, the backwards hat DOES look juvinile!

He IS juvenile.

599 Jimmah  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:32:34am

Gotta go....stuff to do.

600 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:32:36am

re: #594 buzzdroid

[Link: muqata.blogspot.com...]
"4:38 PM Israeli Navy once more in action, with gunboats firing rockets on coastal positions. Arab sources claim several killed and wounded including terrorists hiding in a mosque."

Gotta go get right with Mohammad before we go blow shit up.

601 jaunte  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:32:39am

"The shaka sign resembles the American Sign Language letter for Y."
As in, "Y did the country elect this guy?"
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

602 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:32:46am

re: #578 realwest

Good morning {yma}! Uh, what time is that in terms of US Eastern time, do y'all know?

I'd say they're seven hours ahead of US Eastern time.

There are no new entries on Israellycool's blog, and I've not found anything on ynet or Jerusalem Post.
The Beeb has a brief sentence on its front page which says that Israel has declared the area around Gaza 'a closed military zone'.
So - something is afoot, I'd say.

603 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:32:50am

re: #547 yma o hyd

Thank you.

604 jcbunga  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:32:57am

re: #531 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's easy to confuse them with The Lions.

The Lions haven't truly been good since before Castro. Bailing them out would be like bailing out Kaiser Motors.

605 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:33:04am

re: #595 notutopia

Jerry Reinsdorf will be so happy to get to accept those residuals from the sales off the White Sox caps. This is capitalist baseball loving America. I'm sure they're flying off the shelves as we speak. He's smiling.

Absolutely correct. He can go out and get a picther

606 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:33:56am

re: #578 realwest

Good morning {yma}! Uh, what time is that in terms of US Eastern time, do y'all know?

I'd say they're seven hours ahead of US Eastern time.

There are no new entries on Israellycool's blog, and I've not found anything on ynet or Jerusalem Post.
The Beeb has a brief sentence on its front page which says that Israel has declared the area around Gaza 'a closed military zone'.
So - something is afoot, I'd say.

607 nyc redneck  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:34:01am

good morning everyone.
obama uber cool ? ? he is an awkward goofy doofus way above his pay grade.
lol, so much abt. him and his antics degrade the office of potus.
the way he tries for street cred w/ his lingo and cap backwards.
very unbecoming. it's weird.
that he thinks portraying himself in this way will get him respect.
i'm sure that even the thugs who voted for him would like him to present himself in a more presidential way.
obama has no basic common sense.
and that's an important building block for leadership.

608 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:34:30am

re: #541 lawhawk Ah sorry lawhawk but both of your links go to sites showing a Palestinian father draping his dead kid's bodies (?) in the Hamas flag.

609 wahabicorridor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:34:30am

Competely OT, but this is weird. The Daily Mail (UK) has a series of pics of some poor SOB in Barrow Alaska being chased by a polar bear (a hundred scratches but he's ok - no gore here).

So who took the pics?

610 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:34:42am

re: #570 cavallino_rampante

Word.

To yo' motha'.

For some reason, this song comes to mind when I think of CBBHO.

611 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:35:54am

re: #594 buzzdroid

[Link: muqata.blogspot.com...]
"4:38 PM Israeli Navy once more in action, with gunboats firing rockets on coastal positions. Arab sources claim several killed and wounded including terrorists hiding in a mosque."

Arab sources are claiming that?! I thought the only targets they acknowledge are civilians, preferably women and children.

612 BigMoo  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:36:13am

Cult of Personality anyone ?
Pravda couldn't have done a better job for Stalin than AP/Reuters is doing for the Messiah.

613 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:36:15am

re: #608 realwest
looking at ap pictures of gaza it appears only women and children are the unfortunate victims of the Israli push into Gaza. guess we're not getting any of the fucking terrorists huh?

614 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:36:24am

re: #607 nyc redneck

good morning everyone.
obama uber cool ? ? he is an awkward goofy doofus way above his pay grade.
lol, so much abt. him and his antics degrade the office of potus.
the way he tries for street cred w/ his lingo and cap backwards.
very unbecoming. it's weird.
that he thinks portraying himself in this way will get him respect.
i'm sure that even the thugs who voted for him would like him to present himself in a more presidential way.
obama has no basic common sense.
and that's an important building block for leadership.

I was just thinking that the President of the U.S. should be able to express himself in ways other than street-wise ways.

The President of the United States of America should have more elegant manners than that.

615 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:36:29am

re: #602 yma o hyd

I'd say they're seven hours ahead of US Eastern time.

There are no new entries on Israellycool's blog, and I've not found anything on ynet or Jerusalem Post.
The Beeb has a brief sentence on its front page which says that Israel has declared the area around Gaza 'a closed military zone'.
So - something is afoot, I'd say.

So sorry, {rw}!
Browser hang-up - and while reposting I forgot to wish you a happy Monday Morning!

Can ye forgive me?

616 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:36:30am

re: #571 reine.de.tout

Bias? No bias here, nothing to see, move along . . .

It's disgusting, how prevalent and how utterly obvious the bias is.

Hi {reine}. And I agree, but it works. So on it goes.

617 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:36:51am

re: #551 lifeofthemind
Well both of them were suprerb, but I'll take Bolton over either Moynihan or Kilpatrick.

618 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:37:01am

The attack on Khan Younis resulted in Israel whacking Islamic Jihad's top terrorists.

Aww. /

619 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:37:07am

PIMF: Kirkpatrick.

620 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:37:34am

re: #592 Iron Fist

What, exactly is a shoka? Is it a "black thing" that I cannot understand? Here's a clue for all the racist motherfuckers of any form of racism:

Obama is half-white

Pretty fly.

621 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:37:42am

re: #616 midwestgak

Bias? No bias here, nothing to see, move along . . .

It's disgusting, how prevalent and how utterly obvious the bias is.

Hi {reine}. And I agree, but it works. So on it goes.

Good morning {gak}
Good to see you!
Be watching your e-mail in the week after New Year's day - I'll be setting up a new game!

622 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:37:59am

re: #577 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd have loved to have gone to Bush's first inauguration, but that money and time thing kept getting in the way. As it was, me and my boss watched in live on the Internet.

There were already morons marching in the street against him. The Left were trying to bring him down right from the start. We should give Obama all the consideration he deserves, based on that precedent. It'd be nice to see the motherfucker being handed a subpoena along with the Bible for his swearing in.

I know that well never fly, but it is fun to think about.

623 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:38:03am

re: #609 wahabicorridor

Competely OT, but this is weird. The Daily Mail (UK) has a series of pics of some poor SOB in Barrow Alaska being chased by a polar bear (a hundred scratches but he's ok - no gore here).

So who took the pics?


If you look at the pics on the bottom left is the name of the photographer - Roger Nilsson?

624 wahabicorridor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:38:08am

re: #606 yma o hyd

The Beeb has a brief sentence on its front page which says that Israel has declared the area around Gaza 'a closed military zone'.

All that means is they're not letting any 'journalists' near the place.

625 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:38:30am

re: #612 BigMoo

Cult of Personality anyone ?
Pravda couldn't have done a better job for Stalin than AP/Reuters is doing for the Messiah.

626 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:38:48am

Follow up on a couple of points made above- Iran's ascendancy in the region challenges both the existence if not he little legitimacy they have of ALL the US aligned regimes in the region.

Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia all have internal Jihadi uprisings among their people and the last thing they want is Iranian hegemony in the region because they know Iran will aid the Islamofascists to overthrow them. As Persian Shi'ites, Iran plays to every native bigotry of today's Arab leaders. They have no love for Israel but they have every use for Israel's power and Israel's closeness to the US to do the dirty work of taking out Iran's expansionist dreams once and for all.

Somewhere in Israel, young men are trying their boots on, cleaning their weapons and saying goodbye to family and friends. These are not statistics, they are people. They are part of an unbroken line of my people; the hope and fate of the Jewish people rides on the shoulders of our soldiers. Some of these men will not come back and some will come back permanently injured and perhaps permanently scarred by their experiences. If they fall, their families will be left with a void in their hearts, some of them are distant cousins of mine. We all must know that this war can and probably will see the firing of large numbers of ballistic rockets into civilian areas. The families of the soldiers are, in many respects more vulnerable than their soldier-children and we fight an enemy who will put unspeakable payloads into those rockets: gas and biochemical munitions. It's what Hitler would do and the people our soldiers fight are no better than their beloved Hitler. Some soldiers may come home to no family and no home. This is the war we fight.

In this world you are what you fight against and this is further defined by HOW you fight. Israel's enemies hide behind women and children while aiming at women and children. Israel's enemies use suicide bombers and indiscriminate rocket fire. Israeli soldiers will die taking objectives that cannot be taken without undue loss of civilian life. There can be no joy in war, even this righteous fight against base evil men who dream of finishing Hitler's work. The only relief comes from it being as mercifully short as possible and hope of quiet and a changed environment from which real peace may grow.

May the creator protect Israel's soldiers from harm, protect the people they defend and may all of this terrible mess bestow a blessing of true peace for all.

627 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:39:07am

re: #241 sbvft contributor

don't know if someone posted this already, but see this also:

He’s So Fine: CBS Early Show Explores ‘How Cool is “The Man” Obama?’

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

"On Friday morning’s The Early Show on CBS, viewers were treated to what almost seemed like a parody of Barack Obama’s mainstream media paparazzi fawning over the Democratic President-elect, as the show ran a report exploring the question of "How cool is Obama?" and co-hosts Harry Smith and Tracy Smith referred to Obama as "the man" and "the epitome of cool," respectively. Audio of the classic rock group the Chiffons singing "He’s So Fine" even played as the piece on Obama’s "coolness" began. Tracy Smith oozed as she plugged the segment: "We’re actually talking about how a lot of people think that President-elect Barack Obama is the epitome of cool. Look at that guy. Everything, I mean, even in a baseball cap. Don’t you think?" After Harry Smith referred to a New York Times article about the significance of Obama spending his childhood in Hawaii, Tracy Smith added: "That makes him even cooler.""

Messrs. Parker and Stone, Prophets of Our Times, already summed this one up with Randy Marsh falling down in front of the television on election night.

"Look at him! He's so perfect and awesome! O-BA-MA! WHOOOOO!"

628 jcm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:39:14am

Morning all,

Who needs the Grinch when you have a bureaucracy.

Fruitcake law shuts down old baker

Jack Melton, a disabled World War II veteran who has been baking and selling his pecan-laden fruitcakes from his Churn Creek Road home for the past 10 to 15 years, has been told to stop by Shasta County Department of Environmental Health officials.

Mr. Melton, 86, has been told to quit selling his popular word-of-mouth fruitcakes from his home because state law forbids the operation of an unregulated retail food business from private homes, said Fern Hastings, a senior environmental health specialist.

The HORROR of an unregulated home business. The gall of some people, trying to make a buck or two from they're home, and ignoring the REGULATIONS!

We need to get back to how this country got to be so great; REGULATIONS!
////

629 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:39:25am

re: #616 midwestgak
Hey GAK! howya doing?

630 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:39:34am

re: #609 wahabicorridor

Competely OT, but this is weird. The Daily Mail (UK) has a series of pics of some poor SOB in Barrow Alaska being chased by a polar bear (a hundred scratches but he's ok - no gore here).

So who took the pics?

Blimey!

Good question - must have been someone in yet another car - why didn't they shoot their gun, even just to scare the bear off, rather than using their camera?

Mind - it does look rather hilarious ...
(Rather him than me!)

631 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:39:36am

re: #624 wahabicorridor

All that means is they're not letting any 'journalists' near the place.

Well they are probably letting some in selectively and severely censoring their reports.

632 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:39:54am

re: #596 opnion

He has disavowed his White blood, just like Malcom.

He didn't just disavow it--he threw it under the bus.

633 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:39:56am

re: #618 lawhawk

The attack on Khan Younis resulted in Israel whacking Islamic Jihad's top terrorists.

Aww. /

Shoulda got out of the way. Better yet, shouldn't have started shit they couldn't finish.

634 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:40:02am

re: #566 jaunte
Good morning juante - uh "shelling of Hama by the Syrian Baathists, or the Black September massacre."?
Que?

635 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:40:06am

re: #622 Iron Fist

I'd have loved to have gone to Bush's first inauguration, but that money and time thing kept getting in the way. As it was, me and my boss watched in live on the Internet.

There were already morons marching in the street against him. The Left were trying to bring him down right from the start. We should give Obama all the consideration he deserves, based on that precedent. It'd be nice to see the motherfucker being handed a subpoena along with the Bible for his swearing in.

I know that well never fly, but it is fun to think about.

I'd rather see the order of impeachment, but that isn't going to happen either.

636 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:40:25am

re: #575 yochanan

MARMITE RULES!
vegemite drools


just kidding aussiemagpie

*WHACK* (thanks Mandy for loaning this out)

Just had to come out of lurkersland for this :-)

637 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:40:53am

re: #611 MandyManners

Arab sources are claiming that?! I thought the only targets they acknowledge are civilians, preferably women and children.

Aww, Mandy - these were women and elderly, disguised as terrorists, because they know terrorists don't get killed ...

////

638 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:40:55am

re: #627 Pawn of the Oppressor

Messrs. Parker and Stone, Prophets of Our Times, already summed this one up with Randy Marsh falling down in front of the television on election night.

"Look at him! He's so perfect and awesome! O-BA-MA! WHOOOOO!"

"Ce-la-brate good Obama - c'mon!"

639 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:41:20am

re: #621 reine.de.tout

Will do.

640 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:41:26am

re: #491 unclassifiable

nothing controversial about it but the Egyptian don't want Gaza but they can and will be willing to help the PA bring sanity back to Gaza.

641 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:41:49am

re: #592 Iron Fist


What, exactly is a shoka? Is it a "black thing" that I cannot understand? Here's a clue for all the racist motherfuckers of any form of racism:

Obama is half-white

Skin color is not the issue here. Pop culture of personality is more relevant. Keep an eye out. I'll bet you lunch, we see this shaka, as well as the fist bump used, as well as the White Sox caps worn by all the wanna bees like Obama Cool on the streets in 4....3.....2.....1...

642 Pyrocles  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:42:05am

OT, sort of. Anyone else have family members who are on a first-name basis with Chairman Zero? During Christmas dinner, my father and uncle were heaping glorious praise on Obama with my father calling him exclusively by his first name. "Barack is gonna do this", "Barack is gonna do that", "Damn Republicans are already going after Barack...", "Barack is gonna save the middle class from the Republicans", "Hopefully Barack tries the Bush administration for war crimes", etc.

I got tag-teamed pretty hard by my moonbat father and uncle... Still pulling tinsel and Chris Matthews quotes out of unmentionable places.

643 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:42:35am

re: #623 rightymouse

If you look at the pics on the bottom left is the name of the photographer - Roger Nilsson?

Nilsson Schmilsson

644 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:42:48am

re: #571 reine.de.tout
Good morning reine! Yeah, someone - I think Killgore, posted a photo of a Pali Rocket being fired into Israel - and we remarked on how that was the FIRST PHOTO we'd ever seen of Hama's firing Rockets into Israel.
And, silly me, I thought maybe, just maybe, the MSM was starting to see the light.
Sigh.

645 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:42:56am

re: #632 MandyManners

He didn't just disavow it--he threw it under the bus.

Yes he did. From the mouth of The One himself, he came to Chicago to find his Black identity and he did. He found Michelle & Reverend Wright

646 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:43:03am

re: #626 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Once again, well said. Thank you.

647 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:43:43am

re: #624 wahabicorridor

All that means is they're not letting any 'journalists' near the place.

Yep - so they can't report about the disproportionate build-up of IDF tanks ...

Frankly, I've had it with these talking heads, standing there, pointing vaguely behind to 'Gaza over there'.
Have been complaining to the Beeb about their bias, and to the early morning news show, not that anything will come off it, but needed to lower my blood pressure ...

648 jcm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:43:50am

re: #641 notutopia

Skin color is not the issue here. Pop culture of personality is more relevant. Keep an eye out. I'll bet you lunch, we see this shaka, as well as the fist bump used, as well as the White Sox caps worn by all the wanna bees like Obama Cool on the streets in 4....3.....2.....1...

Regulation uniform for the NCSF, White Sox cap worn backwards, FUBU jacket, ass crack pants, and a fist bump for a salute.

649 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:44:20am

re: #628 jcm

Morning all,

Who needs the Grinch when you have a bureaucracy.

Fruitcake law shuts down old baker


The HORROR of an unregulated home business. The gall of some people, trying to make a buck or two from they're home, and ignoring the REGULATIONS!

We need to get back to how this country got to be so great; REGULATIONS!
////

Consumers would freak out if he sold some cake that had salmonella or lysteria in it.

650 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:44:36am

re: #610 MandyManners

To yo' motha'.

For some reason, this song comes to mind when I think of CBBHO.


EXACTLY! great metaphor song!

651 Pietr  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:45:09am

Been trying to catch up on this thread for over 40 mins-concluded it was impossible. So I'll throw out 2 items.
1.) God/Yaweh instructed the Israelites to "smite their enemies hip and thigh, leave no stone standing one on another". I realize that to follow his instructions today would be frowned on-called genocide; but he knew what he was talking about, and I think he meant it for now.
2.) the UN insisted on a nice WIDE demilitarized zone in Korea-maybe that needs done here. Clear cut same, salt it, and mine it-between both the West bank/Gaza borders with Israel-and it comes out of those territories, not Israeli land
Just my $.02 plus $.02.

652 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:45:13am

re: #629 apachegunner

Hey GAK! howya doing?

Hi apach! Doing well. Very busy time of year at work. Add to that the office was closed for 2 days because of the weather and our phones have been out since the 24th.

How are you?

653 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:45:19am

re: #626 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Thank you for this post - and I join in your prayers.

654 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:45:25am

re: #576 {Miss Trixie} Hey Gorgeous! Yeah mom and I had a nice, quiet Christmas with plenty of food and naps.
As for the two brunettes, as long as one of 'em is YOU, that'd be swell!
*smooooches* back to you! What are your plans for New Years Eve (other than hopefully joining your brunette girlfriend on a flight to Charlotte, I mean!)?

655 HoosierHoops  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:45:29am

re: #576 Miss Trixie

{realwest} Morning, darls *smoochie-smooch* Hope you and your mom had a loverly Christmas. What are your plans for New Year's Eve?

/I've ordered a coupla brunettes in hot pants for ya. :D


You ordered AC/DC to play at Realwest's house?

656 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:45:41am

re: #642 Pyrocles

OT, sort of. Anyone else have family members who are on a first-name basis with Chairman Zero? During Christmas dinner, my father and uncle were heaping glorious praise on Obama with my father calling him exclusively by his first name. "Barack is gonna do this", "Barack is gonna do that", "Damn Republicans are already going after Barack...", "Barack is gonna save the middle class from the Republicans", "Hopefully Barack tries the Bush administration for war crimes", etc.

I got tag-teamed pretty hard by my moonbat father and uncle... Still pulling tinsel and Chris Matthews quotes out of unmentionable places.

I thought that one couldn't mention Barry 0's first name - He's to be referred to, in hushed reverence, as "The One" or not at all.

657 buzzdroid  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:45:57am

re: #626 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Amen to that my friend.
God bless the IDF.

658 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:46:00am

re: #637 yma o hyd

Aww, Mandy - these were women and elderly, disguised as terrorists, because they know terrorists don't get killed ...

////

Isn't there a movie with a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman?

659 So?  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:46:24am

A first in the New Year: The Official White House Workout Video

featuring that fabulous exercising couple Mr. O & Michele

660 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:46:25am

re: #648 jcm

Regulation uniform for the NCSF, White Sox cap worn backwards, FUBU jacket, ass crack pants, and a fist bump for a salute.

.........don't forget the new "uber" when they fist bump!

661 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:46:51am

re: #649 MandyManners

Consumers would freak out if he sold some cake that had salmonella or lysteria in it.

Freak out if they're lucky.

662 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:47:34am

gosh, i'm very good, work? havn't been there for 8 days and I have another 8 until i fly off to DC. office? what office? re: #652 midwestgak

663 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:47:36am

re: #656 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I thought that one couldn't mention Barry 0's first name - He's to be referred to, in hushed reverence, as "The One" or not at all.

I see a coin being minted with MLK on ne side and BHO on the other. Then the velvet wall hanging carpet, the tapestry, of Barack, Lincoln, MLK and JFK. Maybe the tapestry should have them playing cards with the dogs.

664 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:47:46am

re: #642 Pyrocles

OT, sort of. Anyone else have family members who are on a first-name basis with Chairman Zero? During Christmas dinner, my father and uncle were heaping glorious praise on Obama with my father calling him exclusively by his first name. "Barack is gonna do this", "Barack is gonna do that", "Damn Republicans are already going after Barack...", "Barack is gonna save the middle class from the Republicans", "Hopefully Barack tries the Bush administration for war crimes", etc.

I got tag-teamed pretty hard by my moonbat father and uncle... Still pulling tinsel and Chris Matthews quotes out of unmentionable places.

I congratulate you for not slinging mashed taters at them--maybe some cranberry salad. I would've been hard pressed not to.

665 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:48:23am

re: #659 So?

A first in the New Year: The Official White House Workout Video

featuring that fabulous exercising couple Mr. O & Michele

"Sweatin' to The Obamas!"

666 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:48:30am

re: #587 wahabicorridor
Hey wahabi! I don't blame the Russians and whoever it was made the perfect reply!

667 nyc redneck  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:48:50am

re: #614 reine.de.tout

I was just thinking that the President of the U.S. should be able to express himself in ways other than street-wise ways.

The President of the United States of America should have more elegant manners than that.

exactly.
it is disturbing to see him emulate crude thuggish behavior.
why does he identify w/ that? it's degrading to our culture.
look at the example he is setting for young people.
he is just too cavalier. it's like not wearing the flag lapel pin.
showing disdain.
yuk, does he find anything admirable abt. america.

668 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:48:52am

re: #645 opnion

Yes he did. From the mouth of The One himself, he came to Chicago to find his Black identity and he did. He found Michelle & Reverend Wright

Too bad he didn't wind up in Detroit.

669 father_of_10  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:49:24am

re: #658 MandyManners

Isn't there a movie with a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman?

Victor Victoria with Julie Andrews and James Garner.

670 buzzdroid  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:49:34am

Ehud Barak (via [Link: www.israellycool.com...] )

"This operation will be extended and deepened as we find necessary. Our goal is to strike Hamas and stop the attacks on Israel. Hamas controls Gaza and is responsible for everything happening there and for all attacks carried out from within the Strip. The goals of this operation are to stop Hamas from attacking our citizens and soldiers..I would like to remind the world that Israel withdrew from the entire Gaza Strip more than three years ago. We gave a chance for a new reality, and all we’ve seen is Hamas firing rockets and missiles on our citizens and carrying out attacks against Israel..We have nothing against the citizens of Gaza, but we must fight against the Hamas leadership. We are making great efforts to prevent civilian casualties… We are not preventing humanitarian aid from entering the Gaza Strip"

671 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:49:34am

re: #658 MandyManners

Isn't there a movie with a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman?

See the collected works of Rosie O'Donnell

672 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:49:38am

re: #537 itellu3times

I expect Israel to move in and wipe out Hamas ripping them out by the roots. Unlike the previous time when the PA government tolerated and even abetted Hamas, when Hamas started tossing PLO operatives off tall buildings in Gaza, that tolerance ended and Hamas became an enemy of the old line Palestinian power structure. The PA has done a lot of damage to Hamas to prevent them from taking root in the West Bank and they will do worse in Gaza when they come back. Nor has the PA been shy about ratting out Hamas operations and letting the IDF wipe out harder to destroy viper nests.

The thing to remember about war is it tends to change things permanently. In this case, this war will permanently change Hamas' existence. They may continue as an underground movement; these are seasoned Islamofascists and they will stay alive in whatever way they can, through charities and mosques if that is the only avenue they have. But they will no longer be able to publicly function or operate and that will be a blessing to all.

673 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:50:05am

re: #650 notutopia

EXACTLY! great metaphor song!

I don't see him as any kind of gangsta' wannabe. Too geeky. Too prim and proper.

674 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:50:08am

re: #596 opnion

Yeah, but you can never really cast away part of your heritage, only supress in and hide in lies and circumlocution. My ex-wife was part black. She was a sicle-cell carrier. Her mother hated that to the point where she refused to get her other children tested for it.

It just couldn't be, you have to understand. Genetics takes a backseat to other, more "important" considerations.

Obama's rejecting of his white ancestry doesn't make it go away. It hasn't changed his DNA. If you really think about what it means, though, you have to draw the conclusion that he hates white people. So much so that he is willing to ignore half his ancestry (though, I admit the guy has ample reason to reject the woman uterus that brought him into the world)

We're in for a "fun" ride for the next four years. It'll make Space Mountain look like a walk in the park.

675 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:50:12am

re: #642 Pyrocles

{Pyrocles}
Sounds like a meal worthy of downing a whole bottle of XTra Stength Maalox.
So sorry.

676 bill-tb  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:50:21am

Wait until they start killing animals in rituals on the White House lawn. It's a family thing.

677 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:50:39am

re: #668 MandyManners

Too bad he didn't wind up in Detroit.


yeah, he coulda been da mayor. well maby anyway!

678 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:50:48am

re: #668 MandyManners

Too bad he didn't wind up in Detroit.

With him at the helm, the Lions would have found a way to lose 17 games.

679 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:51:04am

re: #604 jcbunga
ROTFL!

680 SteveC  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:51:05am

Gotta run - everyone have a great day!

681 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:51:15am

re: #678 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

With him at the helm, the Lions would have found a way to lose 17 games.

Just curious. What was their pre-season record?

682 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:51:41am

re: #658 MandyManners

Isn't there a movie with a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman?

No idea, am not well educated in movie lore.

But I gleefully remember the Beeb foreign correspondent, John Simpson (tall, hefty old-ish bloke, very good though!) entering Kabul before the troops, with a rag-tag of Afghans, dressed in that pale blue Afghan burqa! While reporting ...

Sauce - goose - gander springs to mind ...

683 Golem Akbar  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:52:04am

re: #672 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

The thing to remember about war is it tends to change things permanently. In this case, this war will permanently change Hamas' existence. They may continue as an underground movement; these are seasoned Islamofascists and they will stay alive in whatever way they can, through charities and mosques if that is the only avenue they have. But they will no longer be able to publicly function or operate and that will be a blessing to all.

From your mouth (or computer) to...well, you know.

684 So?  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:52:07am

re: #659 So?

A first in the New Year: The Official White House Workout Video

featuring that fabulous exercising couple Mr. O & Michele

ORDER NOW and get your name on the Bailout List! Or 50% OFF.

685 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:52:20am

re: #651 Pietr

Been trying to catch up on this thread for over 40 mins-concluded it was impossible. So I'll throw out 2 items.
1.) God/Yaweh instructed the Israelites to "smite their enemies hip and thigh, leave no stone standing one on another". I realize that to follow his instructions today would be frowned on-called genocide; but he knew what he was talking about, and I think he meant it for now.
2.) the UN insisted on a nice WIDE demilitarized zone in Korea-maybe that needs done here. Clear cut same, salt it, and mine it-between both the West bank/Gaza borders with Israel-and it comes out of those territories, not Israeli land
Just my $.02 plus $.02.

Make the Gaza DMZ seven miles wide.

686 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:52:34am

re: #609 wahabicorridor
Looks like someone named Roger Nilsson!

687 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:52:46am

re: #683 Golem Akbar

From your mouth (or computer) to...well, you know.

To Hamas's grave?

688 reine.de.tout  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:52:52am

re: #644 realwest

Good morning reine! Yeah, someone - I think Killgore, posted a photo of a Pali Rocket being fired into Israel - and we remarked on how that was the FIRST PHOTO we'd ever seen of Hama's firing Rockets into Israel.
And, silly me, I thought maybe, just maybe, the MSM was starting to see the light.
Sigh.

Mornin' Realwest!
No, the MSM does not care, they have an angle to promote.
I am surprised to see that it has filtered down to our local newspaper, which is still an independent family-owned paper, not part of a bigger network.

689 jcm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:53:12am

re: #649 MandyManners

Consumers would freak out if he sold some cake that had salmonella or lysteria in it.

Franky, Mandy, I'll take a Liberty and worry about being one of 600 who die from salmonella every year.

Every regulation is an infringement on liberty. Sure health food regulations SOUND good, but now they are telling us what we can and can't eat. In areas they are attempting to spread smoking bans to private homes. 20 years ago when smoking bans started I was one who said, watch out fast food is coming, and got laughed at.

I'm all for common sense food safety, but it's no longer common sense.

We can no longer modify the behavior of government, it needs to be disassembled and rebuilt.

If someone who sells fruitcake by word of mouth out of his home got someone sick, that would spread by word of mouth pretty quick.

690 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:53:52am

re: #613 apachegunner
Hey Guns! Yeah, I reckon all those Hamas bigshots who've died over the last couple of days just had terrible car accidents or somethin'.

691 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:54:17am

re: #681 Nevergiveup

Just curious. What was their pre-season record?

4-0

692 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:54:21am

re: #661 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Freak out if they're lucky.

There usually are good reasons for most regulations, especiall food.

693 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:54:46am

re: #628 jcm

If it isn't required, it should be forbidden. And taxed heavliy, no matter which it is. That's the Chicago Democrat way.

694 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:54:46am

re: #665 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Sweatin' to The Obamas!"

Now, that's just sick.

695 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:54:50am

17:03 In unusual move, UN Chief to brief foreign journalists on Gaza strike (Haaretz)

I guess he will come out worth right behind Israel?
/

696 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:55:06am

re: #615 yma o hyd
Always {yma} always! Besides, this thread is really moving along here, so I understand!
How are YOU doing today?

697 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:55:08am

re: #669 father_of_10

Victor Victoria with Julie Andrews and James Garner.

Thanks!

698 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:55:31am

re: #690 realwest

Hey Guns! Yeah, I reckon all those Hamas bigshots who've died over the last couple of days just had terrible car accidents or somethin'.


you betcha RW, wonder where they'll be when the ground offensive starts later today or week. I don't believe this one will be like the last one, hope not anyway. rah, rah, goooooooooooooooo IDF

699 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:55:31am

re: #626 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Excellent post.
Just one correction. There would be great joy in the peace which would follow a conventional thorough military victory. Such joy is nothing to feel guilty about, and there is nothing in Judaism or the Bible which says otherwise.
There is however little joy in the long string of incomplete military victories which have characterized Israeli history ever since 1948.
Once and for all, the Israelis must have the strength and resolve to finish the job of completely defeating the enemy in Gaza up to and including the Israelis dictating the terms of peace and the losers unconditionally agreeing to those terms.

700 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:56:26am

re: #673 MandyManners

I don't see him as any kind of gangsta' wannabe. Too geeky. Too prim and proper.

We'll see. The white elite students WILL adopt this new cool Obama look on the campuses. I'll carry a camera with me for the next few weeks.

701 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:56:27am

re: #691 kcladderman

4-0

Date

Opponent

Location

Time (ET)

Network/Results
Thursday, August 7 NEW YORK GIANTS Ford Field 7:00 p.m.
W, 13-10
Sunday, August 17 at Cincinnati Bengals Paul Brown Stadium 7:30 p.m.
W, 27-10
Saturday, August 23 CLEVELAND BROWNS Ford Field 4:00 p.m.
W, 26-6
Thursday, August 28 at Buffalo Bills Ralph Wilson Stadium 6:30 p.m.
W, 14-6

702 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:56:33am

re: #670 buzzdroid

Ehud Barak (via [Link:

703 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:56:48am

re: #694 MandyManners

Now, that's just sick.

That's not sick. Imagining Richard Simmons leading the workout is.

704 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:56:54am

Press conference or press briefing from Crawford TX. on Fox

705 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:57:01am

re: #671 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

See the collected works of Rosie O'Donnell

I'd rather not.

706 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:57:01am

re: #688 reine.de.tout

Mornin' Realwest!
No, the MSM does not care, they have an angle to promote.
I am surprised to see that it has filtered down to our local newspaper, which is still an independent family-owned paper, not part of a bigger network.

Hiya, {reine}!

If its a family-owned paper, perhaps you can write to them personally, and tell them what they did wrong.

However, its a sad fact that only Hamas-approved photos are coming out of Gaza, swamping the news agencies, and the IDF has declared a military exclusion zone around Gaza, so no 'independent' journalists can get near.
Thus - they only have alReuter/Hamas photos to print ...

707 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:57:03am

re: #685 MandyManners

Make the Gaza DMZ seven miles wide.

With it's Eastern edge on the Green Line

708 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:57:28am

re: #626 Ayatollah Ghilmeini "May the creator protect Israel's soldiers from harm, protect the people they defend and may all of this terrible mess bestow a blessing of true peace for all."
AMEN. and thank you for that post.

709 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:57:54am

re: #677 apachegunner

yeah, he coulda been da mayor. well maby anyway!

We'd have never heard of him.

710 rightymouse  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:58:11am

re: #697 MandyManners

Thanks!

There was a Blackadder one where he falls in love with a girl/boy called 'Bob'. Probably more amusing to watch than Victor/Victoria which was rather a gross-out.

711 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:58:17am

re: #678 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

With him at the helm, the Lions would have found a way to lose 17 games.

I take it they've had a bad season.

712 kcladderman  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:58:26am

re: #685 MandyManners

Make the Gaza DMZ seven miles wide.

and 100 feet deep

713 yochanan  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:58:35am

re: #504 Silas

Israel do us a favor SINK THE MO'FO

714 apachegunner  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:58:47am

re: #709 MandyManners

We'd have never heard of him.


thats good. right?

715 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:58:48am

re: #700 notutopia

We'll see. The white elite students WILL adopt this new cool Obama look on the campuses. I'll carry a camera with me for the next few weeks.

I don't doubt it. Jackie Kennedy accidentally dented her pillbox hat exiting Air Force One & the next week, every woman was wearing them that way.

716 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:59:09am

re: #635 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty! Can we at least hope for a BLIZZARD of mammouth proportions - limited to D.C., of course?!

717 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:59:13am

re: #682 yma o hyd

No idea, am not well educated in movie lore.

But I gleefully remember the Beeb foreign correspondent, John Simpson (tall, hefty old-ish bloke, very good though!) entering Kabul before the troops, with a rag-tag of Afghans, dressed in that pale blue Afghan burqa! While reporting ...

Sauce - goose - gander springs to mind ...

Why? To not stand out as a Westerner?

718 BigMoo  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:59:17am

re: #625 MandyManners

Hmmm, It wouldn't open for some reason.

719 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 7:59:36am

re: #690 realwest

Hey Guns! Yeah, I reckon all those Hamas bigshots who've died over the last couple of days just had terrible car accidents or somethin'.

I've always wondered what Ford did with those recalled Pinto's.

720 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:00:04am

Hamas' only hope is that the big shithead, PM Olmert, somehow calls off the war before victory. My only confidence in believing that won't happen is the certainty of 100 Knesset seats for Likud and electoral annihilation of Labor and Kadima if Barak and Livni permit Olmert to make Israel not win.

My bet is on Barak, the initial strikes have brutalized Hamas showing that IDF CinC Ashkenazi is going all Schwartzkopf on Hamas without restraint. If you are going to fight a war, GO ALL THE WAY. In 1945 the ashes of Germany and Japan were lessons of the ages. The Israel needs a 1967 style complete victory to re-establish deterrence with her neighbors.

721 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:00:16am

re: #636 aussiemagpie
Hey {aussie} how's about coming out for a *smoooch* or a dozen?! How are ya this early morning for you?

722 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:00:19am

re: #689 jcm

Franky, Mandy, I'll take a Liberty and worry about being one of 600 who die from salmonella every year.

Every regulation is an infringement on liberty. Sure health food regulations SOUND good, but now they are telling us what we can and can't eat. In areas they are attempting to spread smoking bans to private homes. 20 years ago when smoking bans started I was one who said, watch out fast food is coming, and got laughed at.

I'm all for common sense food safety, but it's no longer common sense.

We can no longer modify the behavior of government, it needs to be disassembled and rebuilt.

If someone who sells fruitcake by word of mouth out of his home got someone sick, that would spread by word of mouth pretty quick.

Especially if someone got killed.

723 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:00:21am

re: #696 realwest

Always {yma} always! Besides, this thread is really moving along here, so I understand!
How are YOU doing today?

Thanks, {rw}!
I'm so grateful that I caught an open door earlier this year, and thus ahve the opportunity to talk to all of you good Lizards.
Seeing what is going on in the MSM here in the UK, I've been angry since early morning, e-mailing complaints all over the place.

Otherwise, its perishing, that Putin must ahve some pretty big new wind generators installed on the Urals - max temperature here is in the low 30s, and the wind makes it far far worse.

724 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:00:25am

Someone doesn't quite understand the situation in Gaza.

Gazans are free. Israel hasn't occupied Gaza since 2005 and the Palestinians had civil administrative control over Gaza since the Oslo Accords in 1993. Gazans freely chose Hamas. They chose nihilism over life. They seek Israel's destruction. They sought war. They are reaping what they have sown.

725 jcm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:00:30am

re: #692 MandyManners

There usually are good reasons for most regulations, especiall food.

In WA State WISHA (WA Industrial Safety and Health Adminstration) mandates in commercial kitchens the floors be non-skid. The Health Dept. mandates commercial kitchen floors be smooth so they can easily be sanitized.

The list of that friggin' shit is so long...

As a firefighter OSHA came in for our Federal Safety certification. Note, their are not enough working hours for a firefighter in a year and most firefighters work 2500-3000 hours, when a 40 hour week is 2000. There are not enough work hours in a year for a firefighter to maintain all the state and federally required certification. Never mind a firefighters JOB, if all he did was train, he'd still be in violation.

You see after a firefighter gets hurt invariable the FD gets fined 10 to 20 thousand for lack of training. Because the a firefighter didn't get in the required certification in Hand Tools!

Good "reason?"

726 Silvergirl  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:01:22am

First glance I thought I was seeing Obama in a doo rag. That's still to come.

727 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:01:32am

re: #700 notutopia

We'll see. The white elite students WILL adopt this new cool Obama look on the campuses. I'll carry a camera with me for the next few weeks.

Don't they already dress like gangsta' wannabes?

728 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:02:16am

Palestinian protester fires slingshot against Israelis. Umm... that would be a teenager at best. Palestinians sending kids to lure Israelis into firing on them. It's what Palestinians have done for years during the intifadas.

729 Golem Akbar  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:02:32am

re: #687 Nevergiveup

To Hamas's grave?


That too!

730 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:02:32am

re: #707 lifeofthemind

With it's Eastern edge on the Green Line

And, 25 miles long!

731 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:02:46am

re: #726 Silvergirl

First glance I thought I was seeing Obama in a doo rag. That's still to come.


BWaaaHaaaaHa!
That I don't think will ever happen!
But, a great mental picture.

732 opnion  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:02:48am

re: #668 MandyManners

Too bad he didn't wind up in Detroit.

Right, he would have all of those UAW Benifits & a backward Detriot Tiger cap.

733 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:03:58am

re: #716 realwest

Hey Dusty! Can we at least hope for a BLIZZARD of mammouth proportions - limited to D.C., of course?!

Already happened. The media created a Blizzard that Blinded the majority of the electorate - not limited to D.C.

734 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:04:02am

re: #717 MandyManners

Why? To not stand out as a Westerner?

Exactly - but seeing how tall he was, they probably thought he was some madman who needed to be left alone ...

735 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:04:05am

re: #699 Spare O'Lake

I don't completely disagree, but any joy I feel is dampened somewhat by the loss of good boys who fell to protect us. I try to think of them as my own children, as the faces I have seen smiling on the streets of Jerusalem and TA.

736 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:04:05am

re: #722 MandyManners

Especially if someone got killed.

"I heard he makes a killer fruitcake."

737 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:04:26am

re: #712 kcladderman

and 100 feet deep

It's about 25 miles long and between four and seven miles wide. (I knew it was small but, not the exact dimensions until I hopped over to Wiki.)

That's a lot of terrorism in such a small area. GOOD GOING, HAMAS! You've managed to fuck up your land utterly and completely. Now, fuck off and die.

738 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:05:07am

Hizbullah printing presses have been working overtime in Lebanon.

739 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:05:09am

Ashrawi on CNN: this was premeditated. No shit, Sherlock.

740 Lincolntf  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:05:29am

re: #731 notutopia

Just so long as he doesn't go with a Kangol. That would be a bit much.

741 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:05:41am

re: #737 MandyManners

The Post's headline online? Hamascide.

742 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:05:41am

re: #720 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Barak and Livni seem to be on the same page according to what I have heard and read.

743 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:05:54am

re: #720 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Agree - that is indeed what is needed.
I'm getting the impression that Olmert is being sat upon by the IDF generals and Barak, they do not want a repeat of Lebanon 2006.

744 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:06:18am

re: #642 Pyrocles Y'all shoulda hit 'em (father or not) with a clue by four and worked on the tingly leg thing of Chrissy Matthews!
Ya know - Gee does "Barry" (implies a more personal touch) send a tingle down your leg like he does with Chrissy Matthews?
Or, better yet, just ask them "How is Barry gonna do all this? Hmmm?"
Then go about eating while they fumble around for an answer (and y'all can drop in "Change" like Rahm Emmanuel, Hillary Clinton, et.al.)!

745 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:06:28am

re: #739 MandyManners

Ashrawi on CNN: this was premeditated. No shit, Sherlock.

So was HAMAS lobbing countless rockets & mortars into Israel.

746 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:06:47am

re: #641 notutopia

You are probably right. It's going to be four years of "look what an impressive dress he's wearing" nutball political commentary. The alphabet soup Networks couldn't fawn over him more if they were all being individually fucked by the Obamessiah Himself.

Cable news isn't significantly better. Even Fox has been pretty bad in its hagiography of Obama. They could be shredding him right now if they wanted to be. Obama has so many scandals coming out of the woodwork that he could keep tabloid rags like the National Enquirer and the New York Times going for years.

But he'd not a Republican, so all that potential for comedy has left the building. The MSM simply refuses to air it.

747 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:06:50am

re: #689 jcm

Government regulating a guy making fruit cake - no problem.

Government regulating Fannie and Freddie? No can do. Too many democrats sucking off that teet.

748 jcm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:06:51am

re: #728 lawhawk

Palestinian protester fires slingshot against Israelis. Umm... that would be a teenager at best. Palestinians sending kids to lure Israelis into firing on them. It's what Palestinians have done for years during the intifadas.

And down the block poking his masked head around the corner not in the picture is the Pali gunmen ready to take a potshot and IDF forces, so they return fire and kill a bunch of kids.

749 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:06:58am

CNN: Gaza has a long history of foreign occupation. Gaza is sooooooo widdle. Talking about Hamas firing rockets to Ashkelon BUT, they don't indicate that this happened before Israel had had enough. Gotta' stop before I hurl my remote at the television.

750 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:07:30am

re: #749 MandyManners

CNN: Gaza has a long history of foreign occupation. Gaza is sooooooo widdle. Talking about Hamas firing rockets to Ashkelon BUT, they don't indicate that this happened before Israel had had enough. Gotta' stop before I hurl my remote at the television.

Not word one about the systematic destruction of Gaza's infrastructure.

751 jcm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:07:34am

re: #747 FrogMarch

Government regulating a guy making fruit cake - no problem.

Government regulating Fannie and Freddie? No can do. Too many democrats sucking off that teet.

In the case of Freddie and Fannie it was the Fruit Cake doing the regulating.

752 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:07:48am

Proving they have a tenuous grip on reality, Hamas has just declared there will be no truce until Israel ceases fire.

Good luck with that guys. I hope you can spell unconditional surrender.

753 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:08:58am

re: #724 lawhawk

Someone doesn't quite understand the situation in Gaza.

Gazans are free. Israel hasn't occupied Gaza since 2005 and the Palestinians had civil administrative control over Gaza since the Oslo Accords in 1993. Gazans freely chose Hamas. They chose nihilism over life. They seek Israel's destruction. They sought war. They are reaping what they have sown.

There are too many of them - the number of times I've seen comments on the Beeb comments page, declaring that there's a wall all round Gaza, and that Israel 'enforces' the economic misery there, its gone beyond a few moonbats here or there, its really taken hold.
Thats what successful propaganda does - see the success of the Hamas-approved photos in the news agencies.

754 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:08:58am

re: #718 BigMoo

Hmmm, It wouldn't open for some reason.

Try this.

755 Miss Trixie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:10:06am

Dusty

I've always wondered what Ford did with those recalled Pinto's.

*ting*

*KABOOOOOOOOOOM!*

Hoosier

/I've ordered a coupla brunettes in hot pants for ya. :D


You ordered AC/DC to play at Realwest's house?

ACK! Brain bleach PLEASE!

756 jcm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:10:07am

Robbery possible bomb motive
Grand jury indictment adds charges in Woodburn incident

The motive behind a deadly bomb explosion that ripped through a West Coast Bank branch in Woodburn might have been a plot by a father and son to commit bank robbery, according to an indictment handed up by a Marion County grand jury this week. The document faults Bruce Turnidge, 57, and his son, Joshua Turnidge, 32, in the deaths of two Oregon law enforcement officers and the critical wounding of a third.
757 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:10:42am

re: #739 MandyManners

Ashrawi on CNN: this was premeditated. No shit, Sherlock.

Yep - why is he so surprised? He should know all about hudna, after all!

758 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:10:47am

re: #724 lawhawk

Someone doesn't quite understand the situation in Gaza.

Gazans are free. Israel hasn't occupied Gaza since 2005 and the Palestinians had civil administrative control over Gaza since the Oslo Accords in 1993. Gazans freely chose Hamas. They chose nihilism over life. They seek Israel's destruction. They sought war. They are reaping what they have sown.

Why doesn't he get his stupid self to Gaza?

759 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:11:05am

Misleading caption alerts (and here)? Palestinian youths wheeled into hospital. Didn't know that youths had full grown beards and/or mustaches. /

760 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:11:32am

re: #756 jcm

Robbery possible bomb motive
Grand jury indictment adds charges in Woodburn incident

Awwww. Family activity and unity is good for society.////

761 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:11:43am

re: #735 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I don't completely disagree, but any joy I feel is dampened somewhat by the loss of good boys who fell to protect us. I try to think of them as my own children, as the faces I have seen smiling on the streets of Jerusalem and TA.

Yes, you are correct. It would be a great joy, but tempered by the blood and tears of our fallen heroes. And of course a thorough and real victory would give even more honour and meaning to the terrible sacrifices.

762 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:11:53am

re: #750 MandyManners

Not word one about the systematic destruction of Gaza's infrastructure.

MSM is not saying a lot about this either.


Talban Spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid Claims Murder of 14 Children

763 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:12:01am

re: #724 lawhawk

Someone doesn't quite understand the situation in Gaza.

Gazans are free. Israel hasn't occupied Gaza since 2005 and the Palestinians had civil administrative control over Gaza since the Oslo Accords in 1993. Gazans freely chose Hamas. They chose nihilism over life. They seek Israel's destruction. They sought war. They are reaping what they have sown.

They're free? Still a rip-off.

764 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:12:12am

re: #725 jcm

What does that have to do with preventing salmonella and lysteria?

765 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:12:22am

re: #759 lawhawk

Misleading caption alerts (and here)? Palestinian youths wheeled into hospital. Didn't know that youths had full grown beards and/or mustaches. /


It must be early puberty from all the viagra.

766 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:12:44am

re: #649 MandyManners
"Consumers would freak out if he sold some cake that had salmonella or lysteria in it." Well he could ship it the long way - through China (it is afterall, fruitcake) and thereby folks would be forwarned!
No actually the article didn't say anything about his standards of cleanliness nor his preparation of the cakes, just that he was a retired disabled WWII Vet who's been doing it for year - and apparently no one's gotten sick from 'em yet. Indeed

Mr. Melton, who seemingly has never met a recipe that he doesn't like to tinker with, admits that the money he receives from selling his fruitcakes helps supplement his Social Security income. He doesn't receive a pension. He sells his fruitcakes for $28 and $55, depending on their size, and sold about 160 last year, he said.

Until the county intervened, Mr. Melton had sold about 125 cakes this holiday season, mostly to his long-valued customers, he said.


I'd say let him keep on selling them to his long-valued customers.

767 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:12:52am

re: #734 yma o hyd

Exactly - but seeing how tall he was, they probably thought he was some madman who needed to be left alone ...

Or, that bin Laden chap.

768 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:13:29am

Scuffles in pro-Gaza riot outside Israeli Embassy in Athens

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Now this surprised me. Who knew Israel still had an Embassy in Greece?
/

769 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:13:34am

re: #750 MandyManners

Let's not forget that Hamas used pipes meant to carry sewage as missile and rocket components. Let's not forget the crapalanche that ensued when one of the sewage lakes failed. The terrorists would rather use their plumbing skills to make bombs, not infrastructure.

770 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:13:55am

re: #721 realwest

Hey {aussie} how's about coming out for a *smoooch* or a dozen?! How are ya this early morning for you?

*Smooch* to you {darls}

I've just been lurking and reading - with not much to say tonight :-)

Sometimes I lose my voice......

It's been so busy the last week, as my son was here for Christmas, now he's back home, and now we have visitors from Japan who arrived tonight - a lovely young man who was an exchange student in 1992 and stayed with us, and has been coming back to OZ regularly, and this time he's brought his girlfriend over to meet us!

I'm hearing wedding bells :-)

771 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:14:02am

re: #765 notutopia

It must be early puberty from all the viagra.

When your dad makes hey-hey! with a goat, you got to expect a little extra hair on the kids (pun intended).

772 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:14:59am

re: #655 HoosierHoops
And you're supposed to be my union rep? WTH?!

773 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:15:22am

re: #741 lawhawk

The Post's headline online? Hamascide.

I'm heartened to read the comments--not everyone is a bloomin' idiot.

774 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:15:40am

re: #771 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When your dad makes hey-hey! with a goat, you got to expect a little extra hair on the kids (pun intended).

Please. Leave the poor goats out of it.

775 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:15:42am

re: #751 jcm

In the case of Freddie and Fannie it was the Fruit Cake doing the regulating.

Barney Frank, Maxine Waters and some other democrats all stood there at the gates and said - "Fannie and Freddie are sound". Meanwhile, all sorts of democrat appointees walked away with millions (Gorelick and Raines)

Ironically - John McCain attempted to sound the alarm, to no avail.

But the democrats get to get away with it - becasue they are democrats. and all the little ass sniffing pundits on the left whine for more regulation!

776 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:15:48am

re: #752 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Proving they have a tenuous grip on reality, Hamas has just declared there will be no truce until Israel ceases fire.

Good luck with that guys. I hope you can spell unconditional surrender.

The only thing Hamas knows how to spell is the following:
J - Joos must die
I - infidels and the joos must die immediately and at all costs
H - Hebrews must die
A - Ahmadinejad has the right idea
D - death to the Joos and the infidels

777 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:16:22am

re: #745 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So was HAMAS lobbing countless rockets & mortars into Israel.

I hit my remote's MUTE button pretty quickly. Heck, it's a reflex action now, just like it was during the Clinton Administration.

778 nyc redneck  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:16:43am

re: #766 realwest

"Consumers would freak out if he sold some cake that had salmonella or lysteria in it." Well he could ship it the long way - through China (it is afterall, fruitcake) and thereby folks would be forwarned!
No actually the article didn't say anything about his standards of cleanliness nor his preparation of the cakes, just that he was a retired disabled WWII Vet who's been doing it for year - and apparently no one's gotten sick from 'em yet. Indeed


I'd say let him keep on selling them to his long-valued customers.

so you are going to deprive these meddlesome intrusive gov't workers the right to mess up a happy situation that has been going along successfully, w/out their "assistance", for 15 yrs?

779 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:16:48am

re: #725 jcm

In WA State WISHA (WA Industrial Safety and Health Adminstration) mandates in commercial kitchens the floors be non-skid. The Health Dept. mandates commercial kitchen floors be smooth so they can easily be sanitized.

The list of that friggin' shit is so long...

As a firefighter OSHA came in for our Federal Safety certification. Note, their are not enough working hours for a firefighter in a year and most firefighters work 2500-3000 hours, when a 40 hour week is 2000. There are not enough work hours in a year for a firefighter to maintain all the state and federally required certification. Never mind a firefighters JOB, if all he did was train, he'd still be in violation.

You see after a firefighter gets hurt invariable the FD gets fined 10 to 20 thousand for lack of training. Because the a firefighter didn't get in the required certification in Hand Tools!

Good "reason?"

Yes, good reason. Each and every regulation had a good reason for being implemented. That does not preclude cross purposes, or the other problems you note.

There are not too many people that think in terms of systems, and politicians actually have incentives not to.

780 Silhouette  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:16:55am

re: #759 lawhawk

Didn't know that youths had full grown beards and/or mustaches. /

And you should see the guys!

781 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:16:57am

Christian donors show support for southern towns

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

I am gonna send this to all my bigoted left wing asshole Jewish relatives and friends ( well to be honest, I don't have many of them left ) who sneer at those "right wing reactionary" Christians. G-D bless them.

782 Silvergirl  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:17:27am

re: #756 jcm

Robbery possible bomb motive
Grand jury indictment adds charges in Woodburn incident

What do we have for this father-on duo today? Three doors. I choose Door Number 3 for them.

If found guilty, the Turnidges would face three possible sentences:

-life with a possibility of parole after 35 years

-life without the possibility of parole

-the death penalty.

783 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:17:32am

re: #767 MandyManners

Or, that bin Laden chap.

Aww - that Bin chap could never speak such formal English in his life!

784 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:17:40am

re: #780 Silhouette

And you should see the guys!

Yet another keyboard bites it...

785 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:18:12am

re: #757 yma o hyd

Yep - why is he so surprised? He should know all about hudna, after all!

She. I got sooooooooo sick of her during the 90s. One of the reasons I ditched CNN.

786 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:18:13am

re: #779 CyanSnowHawk

Yes, good reason. Each and every regulation had a good reason for being implemented. That does not preclude cross purposes, or the other problems you note.

There are not too many people that think in terms of systems, and politicians actually have incentives not to.

Self perpetuating job security...Bigger than big
government.

787 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:18:14am

re: #688 reine.de.tout
Yeah, but that means they HAVE to rely on organizations like AP and Reuters - neighborhood, family owned papers rarely have their own foreign corrsepondents!

788 jcm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:18:38am

re: #764 MandyManners

What does that have to do with preventing salmonella and lysteria?

It's about the overall state of regulations in society. Congress or local legislative bodies pass a law saying "make food safe." Sounds good, but it's the bureaucrats with little oversight write the regulations.

OSHA recently tried to bureaucratically change the rules for ammunition so that it would be nearly impossible to store it at home.

I'm not against food safety, it's the over reaching of unconstitutional bureaucratic REGULATIONS that is taking more of our liberties than anything else.

The fruitcake is just an example.

789 shrike  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:18:46am

I wonder how uber-cool Obama would handle this......Your text to link...

790 Silvergirl  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:18:54am

re: #782 Silvergirl

correction:
father-son duo

791 jcm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:19:31am

re: #775 FrogMarch

Barney Frank, Maxine Waters and some other democrats all stood there at the gates and said - "Fannie and Freddie are sound". Meanwhile, all sorts of democrat appointees walked away with millions (Gorelick and Raines)

Ironically - John McCain attempted to sound the alarm, to no avail.

But the democrats get to get away with it - becasue they are democrats. and all the little ass sniffing pundits on the left whine for more regulation!

GWB put more controls into each of budgets. Those controls never made it out of Frank's committee.

792 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:19:41am

re: #759 lawhawk

Misleading caption alerts (and here)? Palestinian youths wheeled into hospital. Didn't know that youths had full grown beards and/or mustaches. /

Turquoise undies? How Metro can you go?!

793 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:20:42am

re: #699 Spare O'Lake
I'd druther there be no one left from Hamas to sign those unconditional surrender papers. Let Egypt and Jordan worry about the Pali's - that's where the Pali's came from in the first place.

794 gregg  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:20:49am

Did anyone noticed this bit of information:

Freddie Mac names Raymond Romano as Chief Credit Officer

Raymond Romano? Isn't that the guy from "Everybody Loves Raymond"? How appropriate - Freddie and Fannie are a joke.

795 aussiemagpie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:21:19am

Have a lovely yesterday {everyone}, and goodnight from Down Here :-)

796 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:21:33am

re: #792 MandyManners

Turquoise undies? How Metro can you go?!

Turquoise is the only color that you're seeing. I'm quite sure they're a different color on the inside.

797 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:21:41am

Mitt Romney and Tom Tancredo are talking clearly about economic issues & how the UAW has essentially killed the American Auto industry etc... on the Mike Rosen show in Denver.

Mitt Romney should be our president.

798 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:22:06am

re: #769 lawhawk

Let's not forget that Hamas used pipes meant to carry sewage as missile and rocket components. Let's not forget the crapalanche that ensued when one of the sewage lakes failed. The terrorists would rather use their plumbing skills to make bombs, not infrastructure.

I reckon to report on that stuff would paint Hamas as a buncha' blood-thirsty bastards intent on destroying Israel instead of protecting their citizens and bettering their lives. It'd screw up the MFM's narrative.

799 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:22:09am

re: #789 shrike

I wonder how uber-cool Obama would handle this......Your text to link...

Not cute when you're the 100th person standing in line behind him.

800 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:23:09am

re: #774 notutopia

Please. Leave the poor goats out of it.

Last night someone posted a link to a photograph of Jordyptians smuggling a goat into one of the tunnels.

801 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:23:10am

re: #719 Dustyvet
ROFLMAO!

802 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:23:45am

re: #800 MandyManners

Last night someone posted a link to a photograph of Jordyptians smuggling a goat into one of the tunnels.

Tunnel of Love - Gaza style

803 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:23:47am

re: #752 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I don't. If they want to die to the last man I'm cool with it. Ok, people, let's get to work. Chop, chop!

804 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:24:09am

re: #776 lawhawk

The only thing Hamas knows how to spell is the following:
J - Joos must die
I - infidels and the joos must die immediately and at all costs
H - Hebrews must die
A - Ahmadinejad has the right idea
D - death to the Joos and the infidels

I have this really strange image of cheerleaders in burkhas.

Gimme' a "J"!

805 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:24:15am

re: #552 realwest

Uh, if so, wouldn't that make her a stupid, fucking Royal bitch?!
Just wondering...............!

LOL! Way behind here...

806 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:24:34am

re: #785 MandyManners

She. I got sooooooooo sick of her during the 90s. One of the reasons I ditched CNN.

Heh.
I don't get CNN here anyway - and won't be in much of a hurry to get cable or satellite TV. Beeb is about as much as I can cope with, for health reasons ...
(Anger is very bad for the body!)

807 jwb7605  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:25:36am

This, by far, is the most egregious case of Political Correctness run wild I have ever heard of.

For those of you that follow these things, you might remember the story of Keith John Sampson, the college student who was branded a racist by the PC police on his campus, for doing nothing more than silently reading a book on his work break.

I just had to post the link.

808 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:25:47am

re: #804 MandyManners

I have this really strange image of cheerleaders in burkhas.

Gimme' a "J"!

[Link: www.bigcheesebadges.com...]

809 notutopia  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:25:49am

re: #800 MandyManners

Last night someone posted a link to a photograph of Jordyptians smuggling a goat into one of the tunnels.

And you think the goats are being used for sex objects?

810 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:26:05am

re: #792 MandyManners

Turquoise undies? How Metro can you go?!

Its the lucky colour, protects against demons and all - but apparently not against Israeli weapons ...

811 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:26:10am

re: #791 jcm

GWB put more controls into each of budgets. Those controls never made it out of Frank's committee.

but the lying democrats and their media machine blame GWB.

812 yochanan  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:26:12am

re: #636 aussiemagpie

*WHACK* (thanks Mandy for loaning this out)

Just had to come out of lurkersland for this :-)

OUCH!

813 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:27:08am

re: #783 yma o hyd

Aww - that Bin chap could never speak such formal English in his life!

Cue the theme to The Brady Bunch.

814 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:27:21am

re: #792 MandyManners

Turquoise undies? How Metro can you go?!

They must be getting the stuff that Mervyn's can't liquidate in their Going Out Of Business sales.

815 lawhawk  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:27:36am

So, where is the real champion of the Palestinian cause. Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri. They're usually foaming at the mouth to extol the virtues of the Palestinians and call for jihad against Israel.

They're not exactly rushing to the cameras and videos are they?

Then again, I figure we might hear from them come Feb or March - probably to coincide with the Madrid bombing anniversary, and will throw in a passing reference to the terrorist group formerly known as Hamas.

816 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:27:45am

re: #774 notutopia

Please. Leave the poor goats out of it.

The stew definitely loses something if you leave the goats out?

817 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:28:00am

Rico Suave'

818 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:28:07am

re: #751 jcm Hey jcm - no shit about that! And of course Dodd (D-stupid) was too busy securing his own little loan to pay attention either!
How are ya today?

819 Nevergiveup  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:28:45am

Accident in Lincoln Tunnel. Is Stalone there?

820 SummerSong  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:29:05am

I've had multiple visitors for the last six days. It was like living through a total news blackout. Once I clean up the ground into my carpet potato chips and coax the cat out from under the living room sofa, I'm looking forward to catching up with the world.

821 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:29:13am

I need to put less blood into my caffein supply. bbiab

822 MandyManners  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:29:52am

re: #820 SummerSong

I've had multiple visitors for the last six days. It was like living through a total news blackout. Once I clean up the ground into my carpet potato chips and coax the cat out from under the living room sofa, I'm looking forward to catching up with the world.

NO! IT SUCKS.

823 jaunte  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:29:57am

re: #809 notutopia

And you think the goats are being used for sex objects?

They said they were just going to read the goat's articles.

824 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:29:59am

re: #818 realwest

Hey jcm - no shit about that! And of course Dodd (D-stupid) was too busy securing his own little loan to pay attention either!
How are ya today?

Fruitcakes are regulated because of the DoD. The fruitcake has been adapted to multiple battlefield uses, and the density, pineapple-to-cherry ratio, and relative dust content are vitally important.

/

825 midwestgak  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:29:59am

bbl

826 yma o hyd  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:30:01am

re: #813 MandyManners

Cue the theme to The Brady Bunch.

Nope - not reallly worthy of a job as chief foreign correspondent at the Beeb ...
AlJazeera, English version, perhaps ...

827 irongrampa  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:31:09am

"Uber cool"?

How about uber tool.

828 Dustyvet  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:31:23am

re: #823 jaunte

They said they were just going to read the goat's articles.

Do the goats have a staple in their...oh never mind...:)

829 OldLineTexan  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:31:56am

re: #813 MandyManners

Cue the theme to The Brady Bunch.

Wow, that car is uber cool!

/AP

830 jcm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:33:15am

re: #818 realwest

Hey jcm - no shit about that! And of course Dodd (D-stupid) was too busy securing his own little loan to pay attention either!
How are ya today?

No work today! Other than checking email to see if anything is melting down in the Philippines, or China, or India. The global economy.

831 Pookykoala  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:34:28am

re: #34 MandyManners

Go Mandy! I do not let my children wear this gangsta-style. I certainly do not want to see the President- elect wearing it. It's not chic. It tells of a certain lack of understanding of how the world views political leaders. He is now a public icon whether he likes it or not. And, he was at a military base where proper attire and decorum are standard. He is their incoming Commander-in-Chief and he dressed like a gangster. His clothing disrespected what these men and women do for us everyday. No wonder these men and women sat in silence as he approached their tables recently.

832 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:34:37am

re: #769 lawhawk
Indeed. Hamas can't be trusted AT ALL. Period, full stop.
And while I'd ordinarily feel great pity for the poor civilians killed or injured in this, I keep reminding myself that they OVERWHELMING elected Hamas (in an election Jimmy Carter said was fair and honest) and apparently don't object when Hamas put those Rocket launchers in their backyards either.
In THIS war, the Palestinian civilians are complicit, just as many German civilians were in Hitler's genocidal attempts on the Jews and Homosexuals.

833 jcm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:35:54am

Later all......

834 FrogMarch  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:36:02am

re: #788 jcm

No fruit cake - someone might die.
No reading on campus - someone might be offended.

835 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:36:20am

re: #778 nyc redneck
I would if I could. Seriously.
Hey, how are ya today?

836 lifeofthemind  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:36:43am

re: #757 yma o hyd

Yep - why is he so surprised? He should know all about hudna, after all!

Hanan Ashwari is a she, a Christian and her Father was a founder of the PLO. At one time dated the late Peter Jennings of ABC.

837 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:37:45am

re: #781 Nevergiveup
Hey, thanks a lot for some good news today!

838 SummerSong  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:39:13am

re: #822 MandyManners

NO! IT SUCKS.

Can't be any worse than what I just lived through, can it? ;)

839 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:39:16am

re: #795 aussiemagpie
Good night {aussie} sleep well!

840 nyc redneck  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:39:42am

re: #835 realwest

I would if I could. Seriously.
Hey, how are ya today?

good and i want my home made fruit cake
:D
hope you're doing well.

841 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:40:43am

re: #805 Bloodnok
Welcome to the club! Fortunately no chores today, so I should catch up in a few hours or so! LOL!

842 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:42:48am

re: #815 lawhawk Well to tell you the truth I was surprised not to hear from them either - until Shortshit came out with his call to all Muslims to join the fray against Israel.
Ain't no love lost at all between Al-Q and Iran.

843 AuntAcid  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:44:07am

re: #797 FrogMarch

Mitt Romney and Tom Tancredo are talking clearly about economic issues & how the UAW has essentially killed the American Auto industry etc... on the Mike Rosen show in Denver.

Mitt Romney should be our president.

Romney is a smart, capable guy but on the stump he is a real snoozer. He comes off more as a stamp collector than a CIC.

844 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:44:38am

re: #833 jcm
See ya jcm - have a great day!

845 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:45:30am

re: #840 nyc redneck
I'm doing ok - and expect to still be doing ok when I really wake up! LOL!

846 realwest  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:47:42am

re: #843 AuntAcid
This is true, but I really think it was his Mormon religion that did him in during the primaries (and thank you again, Mr. Huckabee).

847 Bloodnok  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:49:50am

re: #841 realwest

Welcome to the club! Fortunately no chores today, so I should catch up in a few hours or so! LOL!

Nice. Seems you always have plenty of chores to do. Me? I'm WiFi hopping today. It's such a nice day in Boston and I have the day off. Gotta switch to decaf in the next coffee shop.

848 AuntAcid  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:52:13am

re: #846 realwest

This is true, but I really think it was his Mormon religion that did him in during the primaries (and thank you again, Mr. Huckabee).

We will get a Muslim president before we get a Mormon president thanks to the one-issue evangelicals.

849 yochanan  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:55:43am

re: #824 OldLineTexan

Fruitcakes are regulated because of the DoD. The fruitcake has been adapted to multiple battlefield uses, and the density, pineapple-to-cherry ratio, and relative dust content are vitally important.

/

YOU FORGOT ONE KEY INGREDIENT
the % of mouse shit

850 Silhouette  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:55:55am

re: #843 AuntAcid

Romney is a smart, capable guy but on the stump he is a real snoozer. He comes off more as a stamp collector than a CIC.

Not to compare Mitt to them, but I imagine many many of histories greatest leaders would never be selected today because they don't look "presidential" or kingly or whatever.

851 yochanan  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 8:57:39am

with fruitcake what do you need an industrial kitchen for? You just bake one and it gets RE-GIFTED

852 Iron Fist  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 9:18:58am

re: #820 SummerSong

The world has gone to Hell in a handbasket. There. You're caught up with everything.

:-)

853 buzzdroid  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 9:22:51am

new one to add to the Hamas dictionary - "cooking gas"

via Haaretz

"Medics: 5 Gazans killed in IAF strike on car carrying cooking gas (Reuters)"

854 MPH  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 9:45:24am

Just your standard MSM blow job.

855 A.W.  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 9:51:29am

Hmm, look, Reuters is pretty biased, I agree, but this is not the proof of it. This is a blog entry. Its pretty much understood to be opinionated. So its opinionated.

Now, we know this love of Obama bleeds over to the news section, but I can immediately hear the liberal retort and in this case they would be right.

I think there are better ways to demonstrate bias than this, and indeed, LGF has done exactly that in the past.

P.S. Charles, do you think you could link to other "al-reuters" moments in the main post? Just a thought.

856 Sifty  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 3:13:27pm

B-Ho's fans among the jounalice will be his downfall I think.

While frantically sniffing through the One's gym clothes some night they may actually find a story about him they can't ignore.

857 mattm  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 4:15:07pm

Were Fucked 08!

858 Cutty Sark  Mon, Dec 29, 2008 4:49:44pm

wears a baseball cap backwards ...hmmmm, I know hundreds of people who do that ....good people .
cool ? yea so what ?

Better than watching Bush holding hands with the Saudi Prince ....you know , the leader of the guys paying for the bullets that kill our boys .

Cooler than having a Pres who almost chokes to death on a pretzel , while sitting on a couch .


Cooler than a Pres who has the oratory skills of a twelve year old . A Pres who declares mission accomplished , then four years of war follow , and a Pres who on 9/11 is holding a childrens book upside down .


Deal with it fellas and gals , you got a BLACK president , and you have no idea how he will do , the stuffed suits had 8 years in a row to screw up the country , and did a damned good job of it , and now , someone else gets a shot , ....someone who wears a ball cap backwards ...someone whose skin is darker than yours , but someone who is of greater intelligence than the lameduck on his way out . Deal with it , he's your Commander and Chief , and you owe him the same allegience you gave any other ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE- PRESIDENT . You'll get your chance to vote him out in 4 years . until then suck it up .