Personally, I like Texas.

I'm proud to be an American.

And in Russia, it is everyone pulls for the Party.
I prefer the US, where all the Deltas pull for the Frat Party

GO IDF!

re: #3 Kosh's Shadow

And in Russia, it is everyone pulls for the Party.
I prefer the US, where all the Deltas pull for the Frat Party

In Soviet Russia, the Party pulls for you!

Sounds like Israel in a world of moral relativity.

Fox TV goes green, who'd have thunk it.Green Fox.

re: #5 quickslow87

In Soviet Russia, the Party pulls for you!

Party pulls for you like you are being drawn and quartered.

Cynthia McKinney is sailing to Gaza.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Hamas rocket kills woman in Ashdod (Israel's 5th largest city). This is a first for them.

And better be a last.

Gaza Protests Now Target Arab Leaders

BEIRUT, Lebanon -- On the third day of Israel's attack on Gaza, street protesters across the Middle East broadened their rage toward Israel and the U.S. to include Arab rulers accused of not acting forcefully and fast enough to stop the violence.

The ferocity of the Israeli attacks in Gaza -- and mounting casualties, which United Nations estimated Monday at 320 dead, including 62 civilians, and more than 1,400 injured -- could channel pent-up anger against Arab leaders into further support for Islamist groups. These groups are increasingly seen as the only organized movements willing to stand up to Israel.

"These feelings have been there for years; what has changed is that Arabs now have extremist groups through which they can channel their anger and resentment," said Rami Khouri, a political analyst in Beirut. "You'll have a new generation of people who want to fight Israel."

Fighter Jet Crashes Near Marine Corps Base in North Carolina

A Marine fighter jet crashed Monday about a mile short of a runway at an eastern North Carolina air base, killing the pilot, a Marine Corps spokesman said.

Plane was an AV-8B Harrier.

Detective finds stolen gun in suspect's toilet.

Wow, what a crappy place to hide something. Heh.

re: #9 westbankmama

Cynthia McKinney is sailing to Gaza.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I'm hoping she has a Rachel Cory moment. She would look so much better one dimentional.

re: #13 Wyatt Earp

Detective finds stolen gun in suspect's toilet.

Wow, what a crappy place to hide something. Heh.

No shit!

re: #14 JeremyR

I'm hoping she has a Rachel Cory moment. She would look so much better one dimentional.

She's trying to fight crazy with crazy, I guess.

re: #11 NJDhockeyfan

Gaza Protests Now Target Arab Leaders

Said Arab leaders have been nourishing an Islamist viper is their bosom. It doesn't surprise me at all that the snake is now fanging them, nor have I any sympathy for them.

Great quote from the somewhat obtuse Coen brothers film.

re: #13 Wyatt Earp

Detective finds stolen gun in suspect's toilet.

Wow, what a crappy place to hide something. Heh.

Oh no, not this again. I thought we all got it out of our system in the last thread. :p

re: #14 JeremyR

I'm hoping she has a Rachel Cory moment. She would look so much better one dimentional.

Earlier, lizards were wondering if she'd be the new St. Pancake.
I suggested
St. Rubber Dinghy
or
St. Boat Anchor
depending on how well she floats.

re: #12 jcm

Fighter Jet Crashes Near Marine Corps Base in North Carolina

Plane was an AV-8B Harrier.

Harriers have a really shitty safety record

Mark Matthews of ABC just cheerfully announced on my evening news that Gaza is 'one of the most densely populated spots on earth'.

Groan. Can't the dang news factcheck?

re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist

Mark Matthews of ABC just cheerfully announced on my evening news that Gaza is 'one of the most densely populated spots on earth'.

Groan. Can't the dang news factcheck?

Well, the population is rather dense...

re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist

Nope, can't do that. That is too much like work.

re: #16 Wyatt Earp

She's trying to fight crazy with crazy, I guess.

Next to her everything is sane.

Mr DT has been asked to give a presentation on Sunday on "self-quarantine" and home preparedness. Our church leaders in Salt Lake have asked us to learn how to live in a quarantine environment for a limited period. So in addition to our year's supply of food, we have to be prepared to be self-sufficient while isolated.

Ideas on quarantines
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re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist

Mark Matthews of ABC just cheerfully announced on my evening news that Gaza is 'one of the most densely populated spots on earth'.

Groan. Can't the dang news factcheck?

What about Paris Hilton's bedroom?

re: #11 NJDhockeyfan

Gaza Protests Now Target Arab Leaders

Tinderbox.

re: #11 NJDhockeyfan

Gaza Protests Now Target Arab Leaders

total disconnect...what are Arab 'leaders' supposed to do?...seeth?

re: #21 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Harriers have a really shitty safety record

They're getting long in the tooth. The F-35 is coming along soon, but not soon enough.

re: #26 DistantThunder

Mr DT has been asked to give a presentation on Sunday on "self-quarantine" and home preparedness. Our church leaders in Salt Lake have asked us to learn how to live in a quarantine environment for a limited period. So in addition to our year's supply of food, we have to be prepared to be self-sufficient while isolated.

Ideas on quarantines
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I meant to add that this is related to the whole pandemic discussion. Possibility that another will be coming, possibly man made.

I can't complain, but sometimes I still do.

/Joe Walsh

re: #19 BlueCanuck

Oh no, not this again. I thought we all got it out of our system in the last thread. :p

You're an optimist.

But what I know about is Texas...And down here... you’re on your own going to be eating lots and lots of good barbecue.

Now in Russia, they got it mapped out so that everyone pulls for everyone else— that’s the theory, anyway. But what I know about is Texas...And down here... you’re on your own.

In Russia they are ratting you out to the authorities for better rations.

re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist

Groan. Can't the dang news factcheck?

I've dug into that often used statistic before and I believe it to be true, if the population numbers they use are accurate anyway. Then again, that number has been going down lately.

Morning Lizards. Blue, I was watching CNN last night and saw that Canada is killing cute innocent baby seals. Whats up with that? I thought you guys were more evolved than the rest of the world. Isn't Canada afraid of PETA?
/

re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist

Mark Matthews of ABC just cheerfully announced on my evening news that Gaza is 'one of the most densely populated spots on earth'.

Groan. Can't the dang news factcheck?

It is "one of the most", but far from the most populated if you compare to some cities and counties.(Per square mile)

Gaza 8666
District of Columbia 9176
Gibraltar 11,990
Singapore 17,751
Hong Kong 17,833
Monaco 41,608
Macau 71,466
Cairo 82,893
Calcutta 108,005
Manila 113,810

re: #34 JeremyR

Throw her over board and see how fast the UN version of the EPA is on you.
And if she gets run over by a tank, I hope the driver has the presence of mind to stop and neutral steer. Spread the madness arround.
with luck though, she may get to be the first infidel they crucify since they legalized it.

sounds pretty KOSian...

re: #27 Captain Amercia

What about Paris Hilton's bedroom?

Are you aware that Paris Hilton has a higher sperm count then 80% of the guys in California?

re: #37 Mich-again

I've dug into that often used statistic before and I believe it to be true, if the population numbers they use are accurate anyway. Then again, that number has been going down lately.

My young daughter was looking through a factbook on the world, and found the countries with the lowest GDP per capita. Guess which "country" was the lowest?

Israeli official says army ready to fight for "weeks"

Israel is not messing around.

re: #38 Erik The Red

They don't just kill them, they bash in their brains.

re: #31 DistantThunder

I don't know what your community set-up is like, but I think the best way to approach that in a suburban or town setting would be to figure out as a community what you need, and assume you'll have to pull together as a group. You know, one guy with a generator per half block or something, rather than everyone replicates everything. Your chances of both setting it up, and being able to make it work seem to go up if you handle it like that.

I sympathize with the food storage thing. When my father was a cop, his partner was LDS, and he and his wife lived in a very teeny southern California beach house. They were geniuses with storage.

re: #41 JeremyR

Are you aware that Paris Hilton has a higher sperm count then 80% of the guys in California?

Wasn't me, man.

GO IDF!

This time, don't give the dirt back to them. Make them feel the loss.

Goodnight LGF.

re: #43 NJDhockeyfan

Israeli official says army ready to fight for "weeks"

Israel is not messing around.

At least until the inauguration.

re: #27 Captain Amercia

What about Paris Hilton's bedroom?

Not really. For all her antics, she does not have many boyfriends. Paris Hilton is actually less slutty than she appears.

re: #41 JeremyR

Are you aware that Paris Hilton has a higher sperm count then 80% of the guys in California?

And that's just in her gullet.

re: #14 JeremyR

I'm hoping she has a Rachel Cory moment. She would look so much better one dimentional.

She's having a Gilligan's Island moment right now or she's fish food. Have a nice day.

NEWS
URGENT! Israeli Navy Attacking Civilian Mercy Ship! TAKE ACTION IMMEDIATELY!
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Date : 12-30-2008

The Dignity, a Free Gaza boat on a mission of mercy to besieged Gaza, is being attacked by the Israeli Navy in international waters. The Dignity has been surrounded by at least half-a-dozen Israeli warships. They are firing live ammunition around the Dignity, and one of the warships has rammed the civilian craft causing an unknown amount of damage. Contrary to international maritime law, the Israelis are actively preventing the Dignity from approaching Gaza or finding safe haven in either Egypt or Lebanon. Instead, the Israeli navy is demanding that the Dignity return to Cyprus - despite the fact that the ship does not carry enough fuel to do so. Fortunately, no one aboard the ship has yet been seriously injured.

Your text to link...

re: #39 avanti

It is "one of the most", but far from the most populated if you compare to some cities and counties.(Per square mile)

Gaza 8666
District of Columbia 9176
Gibraltar 11,990
Singapore 17,751
Hong Kong 17,833
Monaco 41,608
Macau 71,466
Cairo 82,893
Calcutta 108,005
Manila 113,810

Oh. My.
The state in which I live has 6.2 people per square mile. If I lived in Manila- well- I don't think I'd be living very long!

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

Not really. For all her antics, she does not have many boyfriends. Paris Hilton is actually less slutty than she appears.

Is that possible? :)

re: #39 avanti

It is "one of the most", but far from the most populated if you compare to some cities and counties.(Per square mile)

Gaza 8666
District of Columbia 9176
Gibraltar 11,990
Singapore 17,751
Hong Kong 17,833
Monaco 41,608
Macau 71,466
Cairo 82,893
Calcutta 108,005
Manila 113,810

My numbers are all in kilometers, but there are several dozen cities ahead of them, some of them awfully nice, including, wait for it...Tel Aviv. And London.

re: #43 NJDhockeyfan

Israeli official says army ready to fight for "weeks"

Israel is not messing around.

right now they seemed stalled...knocking down alot of buildings etc...low probability for a hit...they need to go in on foot to hunt down the freedom fighters...block access to the Egyptian border and the Negev...gonna take alot of troops but what other choice do they have?

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

Not really. For all her antics, she does not have many boyfriends. Paris Hilton is actually less slutty than she appears.

Or so slutty no one will go near her.

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

Not really. For all her antics, she does not have many boyfriends. Paris Hilton is actually less slutty than she appears.

And who really cares?

re: #55 albusteve

right now they seemed stalled...knocking down alot of buildings etc...low probability for a hit...they need to go in on foot to hunt down the freedom fighters...block access to the Egyptian border and the Negev...gonna take alot of troops but what other choice do they have?

None. They need to finish this once and for all.

In the Israel-Palestinian context...can anybody tell me what the hell is a "civilian police"?

re: #51 mojo jojo

I have no problem with food and medical supplies--searched and verified to be just that-- but I think the "volunteers" should not be allowed to enter. They just become a shield for terrorists.

re: #59 traderjoe9

In the Israel-Palestinian context...can anybody tell me what the hell is a "civilian police"?

I hope it's not what Barack Obama wants here . . .

re: #51 mojo jojo

Your text to link...

Fish Food!

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know what your community set-up is like, but I think the best way to approach that in a suburban or town setting would be to figure out as a community what you need, and assume you'll have to pull together as a group. You know, one guy with a generator per half block or something, rather than everyone replicates everything. Your chances of both setting it up, and being able to make it work seem to go up if you handle it like that.

I sympathize with the food storage thing. When my father was a cop, his partner was LDS, and he and his wife lived in a very teeny southern California beach house. They were geniuses with storage.

I'm pretty sure the self-quarantine is individual families. Undoubtedly people will have to borrow and trade in a careful and limited way. Some of these viruses have a 65% fatality rate so no room for error. We are stocking up on a limited amount of educational supplies as well for the children. Water storage, medical supplies - I draw the line at "home dentistry" - although in a crisis - who knows?

re: #9 westbankmama

Cynthia McKinney is sailing to Gaza.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Charles had a thread on that earlier

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

She's a fright, that one.

Gears of War 2 calls and I'm off to battle those Cog Bastards....nite all.

re: #38 Erik The Red

Morning Lizards. Blue, I was watching CNN last night and saw that Canada is killing cute innocent baby seals. Whats up with that? I thought you guys were more evolved than the rest of the world. Isn't Canada afraid of PETA?
/

Well the out of work fishermen have to make a living some how. . . . .

/PETA? They are just chum for the grizzly bear hunts.

re: #57 USBeast

And who really cares?

I don't, I'm just saying.

Rights complaint against imam rejected

MONTREAL — The Canadian Human Rights Commission won’t investigate a complaint against a Montreal imam who allegedly wrote disparagingly, and sometimes with violent intent, about Jews, Christians and other “infidels,” as well as homosexuals, women and democracy in general.

The complaint was lodged in April by Marc Lebuis, publisher of a Quebec-based website Point de Bascule (Tipping Point), which aims to raise awareness of what its creators perceive as the threat to western values posed by radical Islam.

Lebuis claimed Abou Hammaad Sulaiman Dameus Al-Hayit disseminated hate propaganda in his book L’Islam ou l’Intégrisme? A la lumière du Qor’an et de la Sounnah (Islam or Fundamentalism? In light of the Qur’an and the Sunna) in the book’s third edition, which was published in 2006-07 on the Internet.

The commission found that the writings are not likely to expose members of any identifiable group to hatred or contempt, according to the law.

Among the book excerpts Lebuis cited was that Jews “spread corruption and chaos on Earth,” and “unjustly occupy” Palestine for the sole purpose of “filling this land with corruption and transgress the laws of Allah in the name of secularism.”

As well, Lebuis alleges the imam wrote that most Jews “seek only material goods and money. Apart from that, they have nothing.”

Christianity, according to Lebuis’ excerpts, is the reason the West is “full of perversity, corruption and adultery.”

Other excerpts state that all “infidels” are “evil… love perversity and “are our enemies,” and that Muslims are better than others.

Elsewhere, the imam wrote that democracy is contrary to Islam and that Muslims should overthrow “infidel” rulers whenever they are strong enough to do so.

In an Islamic state, Jews and Christians would keep their religion but pay a fee called the jizyah. “The purpose of the jizyah is to humiliate and punish infidels to encourage them to accept Islam,” Lebuis quotes from the book.

Those of other faiths or atheists must accept Islam or “be killed.”

The author also calls for the extermination of homosexuals.

I just can't understand why everyone doesn't want to convert to such an uplifting positive religion.
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re: #51 mojo jojo

Your text to link...

Entering a war zone is against international law, and extremely stupid.
Israel should take the ship and intern everyone on board until hostilities with Gaza are over.
Then the boat and all contents should be sold, and the proceeds used to pay those Israelis who suffered under attacks from Gaza. The internees should be sent to Egypt unless they can cover air fare from Israel.

re: #60 EmmmieG

I have no problem with food and medical supplies--searched and verified to be just that-- but I think the "volunteers" should not be allowed to enter. They just become a shield for terrorists.

it's an absurd notion to let anybody in or out of Gaza...frankly I'm disappointed that the IDF has yet to control the borders...

re: #14 JeremyR

I'm hoping she has a Rachel Cory moment. She would look so much better one dimentional.

sinking ships

re: #57 USBeast

And who really cares?

Paris sort of interests me. She's basically revived being a notorious socialite, which I had thought went out with seamed stockings. She baffles me, though. I can't imagine ever wanting to live like that, especially if I had the money to do whatever I damn well pleased.

John F. Kennedy Junior, him I got. Start up a political magazine--that's something I would do if I were someone's heir and had the money and the pull.

re: #62 jcm

Fish Food!

This is very good news. Israel is making the right call. This is a war. If you aid the enemy, you become the enemy.

re: #68 NJDhockeyfan

Yet the Canadian Human Rights Commission will go after Mark Steyn.
What a joke. Only, it's not funny.

Texas...And down here... you’re on your own.

I never knew my daddy but that's the way my momma taught me.

re: #60 EmmmieG

I have no problem with food and medical supplies--searched and verified to be just that-- but I think the "volunteers" should not be allowed to enter. They just become a shield for terrorists.

Nobody gets in. Besides, that boat is small & whatever medical supplies it carries is insignificant.

re: #51 mojo jojo

Your text to link...

That's gotta make her hair stand on end.

re: #76 mojo jojo

Good point. Besides, I'm guessing the dear, sweet, lovely Palestinians will make sure the "army" has the food and meds before women and children.
/We must have our priorities, mustn't we?

re: #59 traderjoe9

In the Israel-Palestinian context...can anybody tell me what the hell is a "civilian police"?

Well, I can tell you that I just dinged you up by accident...

What's the context? It might refer to an Israeli town's PD, as opposed to IDF personnel.

re: #77 NJDhockeyfan

That's gotta make her hair stand on end.

The Free Gaza Movement?

re: #61 Captain Amercia

I hope it's not what Barack Obama wants here . . .

Too late, it's already started, and I don't like it from either side.

Army domestic defense.

re: #80 Dustyvet

The Free Gaza Bowel Movement?

Fixed it to describe what they might have while surrounded by Israeli ships.

re: #73 Dark_Falcon

This is very good news. Israel is making the right call. This is a war. If you aid the enemy, you become the enemy.

good lord...TAKE ACTION IMMEDIATELY!....right, make a phone call....that's actually embarrassing...

re: #80 Dustyvet

The Free Gaza Movement?

Free Gaza? I'm all for a free Gaza. Free from the corrupt, grafting, aid-stealing terrorist thugs and criminals who have been making sure it stays just the way it is, and use little girls and their mothers as human shields while they commit terrorism.

Oh wait, that's not what they meant? Oh, well...

re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist

Paris sort of interests me. She's basically revived being a notorious socialite, which I had thought went out with seamed stockings. She baffles me, though. I can't imagine ever wanting to live like that, especially if I had the money to do whatever I damn well pleased.

John F. Kennedy Junior, him I got. Start up a political magazine--that's something I would do if I were someone's heir and had the money and the pull.

so are you a groupie then?

hello Night Lizards! It was relatively warm to day in Near Iowa. I even went out without buttoning my coat.

Will the baby aardvark grow into it's ears and feet?

How are you-all and are we ontopic --is there a topic?

re: #84 EmmmieG

Free Gaza? I'm all for a free Gaza. Free from the corrupt, grafting, aid-stealing terrorist thugs and criminals who have been making sure it stays just the way it is, and use little girls and their mothers as human shields while they commit terrorism.

Oh wait, that's not what they meant? Oh, well...

It's about to be free of buildings.

re: #81 avanti

Too late, it's already started, and I don't like it from either side.

Army domestic defense.

"It's a huge sh*t sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take a bite!"

re: #86 ggt

Pick a topic and you are on it. :) Good evening ggt.

re: #86 ggt

Topic? You can choose between Paris Hilton, Cynthia's moonbat boat being challenged by the Israeli navy, and other Palestinian things.

No doubt these are some of the "civilians causalities" caused by Israel that the BBC and CNN keeps telling us about:

On Monday, Dr. Ashour was not the only official in charge. Armed Hamas militants in civilian clothes roamed the halls. Asked their function, they said it was to provide security. But there was internal bloodletting under way.

In the fourth-floor orthopedic section, a woman in her late 20s asked a militant to let her see Saleh Hajoj, her 32-year-old husband. She was turned away and left the hospital. Fifteen minutes later, Mr. Hajoj was carried out by young men pretending to transfer him to another ward. As he lay on the stretcher, he was shot in the left side of the head.

Mr. Hajoj, like five others killed at the hospital this way in 24 hours, was accused of collaboration with Israel. He had been in the central prison awaiting trial by Hamas judges; when Israel destroyed the prison on Sunday he and the others were transferred to the hospital. But their trials were short-circuited.

A crowd at the hospital showed no mercy after the shooting, which was widely observed. A man in his 30s mocked a woman expressing horror at the scene.

“This horrified you?” he shouted. “A collaborator that caused the death of many innocent and resistance fighters?”

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

President of Somalia resigns

NAIROBI, Kenya — Somali President Abdullahi Yusuf resigned Monday, conceding that Islamist insurgents had overtaken much of the country and that he had been unable to unite the fragmented Horn of Africa nation.

"Most of the country is not in our hands," Yusuf said in a speech before parliament in Baidoa, describing the nation as "paralyzed."

re: #90 EmmmieG

Topic? You can choose between Paris Hilton, Cynthia's moonbat boat being challenged by the Israeli navy, and other Palestinian things.

Sing it with me . . .

"The moonbat booooat,
Soon we'll be making another run . . ."

Can we ask the IDF to keep Cynthia McKinney?

How much would it cost?

re: #93 Captain Amercia

Sing it with me . . .

"The moonbat booooat,
Soon we'll be making another run . . ."

Er...yes...but the love boat had romance. I really shouldn't go here, but who is Cynthia's love interest? The aardvark from two threads ago?

re: #76 mojo jojo

Nobody gets in. Besides, that boat is small & whatever medical supplies it carries is insignificant.

But they just let in 100 trucks of humanitarian aid today...

to be honest, I am SOOOO confused about this so-called-blockade.

It seems to me anyone who wants to can get into Gaza. Journalists, reporters, ISM activists, Free Gaza activists (when there is no war going on), human rights groups... I just don't get it.

re: #83 albusteve

good lord...TAKE ACTION IMMEDIATELY!....right, make a phone call....that's actually embarrassing...

What did I say that was embarrassing? I said that I thought Israel was making the right decision by acting to stop the blockage running.

re: #90 EmmmieG

Topic? You can choose between Paris Hilton, Cynthia's moonbat boat being challenged by the Israeli navy, and other Palestinian things.

But first a word from our sponsor...:)

re: #89 BlueCanuck

Pick a topic and you are on it. :) Good evening ggt.

re: #90 EmmmieG

Topic? You can choose between Paris Hilton, Cynthia's moonbat boat being challenged by the Israeli navy, and other Palestinian things.

I don't know about Paris or Cynthia. I think I'd like to learn more about posse comitas --but it's late.

The aardvark was pretty cute. How many points would "aardvark" give you in Scrabble --no doubles or anything?

re: #84 EmmmieG

Free Gaza? I'm all for a free Gaza. Free from the corrupt, grafting, aid-stealing terrorist thugs and criminals who have been making sure it stays just the way it is, and use little girls and their mothers as human shields while they commit terrorism.

Oh wait, that's not what they meant? Oh, well...

Upding to you. That is exactly the right sentiment.

Good evening Lizards.

re: #95 EmmmieG

Er...yes...but the love boat had romance. I really shouldn't go here, but who is Cynthia's love interest? The aardvark from two threads ago?

The aardvark would have higher standards.

re: #92 NJDhockeyfan

President of Somalia resigns

"most of the country is not in our hands"

how long have we known this?

The world is full of complainers. But the fact is, nothing comes with a guarantee. I don’t care if you’re the Pope of Rome, ...
— Loren Visser, Blood Simple

I am one of the complainers. But the fact is, human imprecision is guaranteed. For example, there is no Pope of Rome*, ...
— blackpajamas, Bloody Simpleton

*The Pope is the Bishop of Rome.

re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist

Paris sort of interests me. She's basically revived being a notorious socialite, which I had thought went out with seamed stockings. She baffles me, though. I can't imagine ever wanting to live like that, especially if I had the money to do whatever I damn well pleased.

John F. Kennedy Junior, him I got. Start up a political magazine--that's something I would do if I were someone's heir and had the money and the pull.

There was always the chance that JFK Jr. would actually get off the dead Kennedy ass and achieve something positive. As to Paris Hilton...hope springs eternal but doubt has my money on it.

I am watching CNN right now (I never do normally) which is covering Israel/Hamas and it reminds me why I never watch them rats.

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

What did I say that was embarrassing? I said that I thought Israel was making the right decision by acting to stop the blockage running.

you didnt...that was a call to action from the link....go look at the BS and have a good laugh...

re: #88 Captain Amercia

"It's a huge sh*t sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take a bite!"

"Sir, does this mean Ann Margaret will not be coming to entertain?"

re: #79 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I can tell you that I just dinged you up by accident...

What's the context? It might refer to an Israeli town's PD, as opposed to IDF personnel.

Well I hope you have more of these accidents.

The "civilian police" I am referring to are those that were killed by Israel in their aerial strikes the pas two days.

re: #39 avanti

It is "one of the most", but far from the most populated if you compare to some cities and counties.(Per square mile)

Gaza 8666
District of Columbia 9176
Gibraltar 11,990
Singapore 17,751
Hong Kong 17,833
Monaco 41,608
Macau 71,466
Cairo 82,893
Calcutta 108,005
Manila 113,810

These kinds of statistics are totally stupid. The fact is that the Gaza Strip is one of the most beautiful sandy beaches in the entire world, and if the Gazans weren't so stupid, they would have developed it and turned it into a fabulous resort paradise.

If the Gazans lived in the Garden of Eden, they wouldn't know what to do with it. They would turn it into a garbage heap, like they did with their lovely beaches.

Don't believe me? Go there and check it out yourselves.

re: #94 jcm

Can we ask the IDF to keep Cynthia McKinney?

How much would it cost?

It would cost us our only ally in the middle east. Better to have the boat lost at sea with all hinds aboard.

re: #106 NJDhockeyfan

I am watching CNN right now (I never do normally) which is covering Israel/Hamas and it reminds me why I never watch them rats.

MacNeil/Lehrer New Hour sucked equally. Did anyone hear those loaded questions that the female interviewer was asking the ambassador from Israel. She asked him, among other things "What are you doing about the civilian casualties" and "How do you see this ending?". What a moron.

Indian gov't minister: "Islamic terrorism" an incorrect term made up by Westerners angry over 9/11

Umm, and just how far was this guys head up his arse during Mumbi?

UN official says Gazans got nothing from Israeli truce

Speaking to reporters by videolink from Gaza, Karen AbuZayd, head of the U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA), said she thought Gazans believed a 6-month-old truce was violated by Israel, not Hamas, which ended it on Dec. 19.

AbuZayd, an American, said they believed Hamas had observed the truce quite strictly ... and that they got nothing in return, because there was supposed to be a kind of a deal -- if there were no rockets the crossings would be opened. The crossings weren't opened at all."

Israel had also launched an incursion to kill Palestinian militants, "so then the rockets went out and that was sort of the breakdown of the truce," she said.

re: #90 EmmmieG

Topic? You can choose between Paris Hilton, Cynthia's moonbat boat being challenged by the Israeli navy, and other Palestinian things.

And Blue clubbing baby seals/

re: #110 Promethea

Well, yes, but what good is a lovely sandy beach if you're lying there in a burqa, and a quarter mile away from your husband, in the "women's" section?

/I mean, the suntan lotion and the fabric would stick something fierce, wouldn't it?

I recently found out that my best friend who had been completely sober for seven years had gone back to the dark side and way further than he had ever been before. Actually overdosed and was resuscitated. I am quite shaken but it seems like he is finally getting the ass kicking help he needs. Say a prayer for him if you would.

Good night all.

re: #111 JeremyR

It would cost us our only ally in the middle east. Better to have the boat lost at sea with all hinds aboard.

why would that be better?...what political advantage would Israel gain by letting McKinney and the others die?...what exactly is the point in that?

re: #106 NJDhockeyfan

I am watching CNN right now (I never do normally) which is covering Israel/Hamas and it reminds me why I never watch them rats.

There's a CNN reporter on that boat. CNN was trying to sneak a reporter into Gaza. Could u believe that? That's a stupid question. He should have stayed in Colombia with the drug dealers.

re: #103 ggt

"most of the country is not in our hands"

how long have we known this?

Ask the Rangers and Delta. I'd say at least 17 years.

re: #114 NJDhockeyfan

UN official says Gazans got nothing from Israeli truce

Yes, they had to give up an average of 10 rockets a day of the truce
/

re: #117 freedombilly

I recently found out that my best friend who had been completely sober for seven years had gone back to the dark side and way further than he had ever been before. Actually overdosed and was resuscitated. I am quite shaken but it seems like he is finally getting the ass kicking help he needs. Say a prayer for him if you would.

Done

re: #111 JeremyR

It would cost us our only ally in the middle east. Better to have the boat lost at sea with all hinds aboard.

ROFLMAO!

re: #114 NJDhockeyfan

UN official says Gazans got nothing from Israeli truce

Israel should target UNRWA. It's part and parcel of Hamas and provides them with all kinds of support.

re: #123 Erik The Red

Done

:)

re: #115 Erik The Red

And Blue clubbing baby seals/

Hey, everyone has to have a hobby. ;)

/

re: #117 freedombilly

I recently found out that my best friend who had been completely sober for seven years had gone back to the dark side and way further than he had ever been before. Actually overdosed and was resuscitated. I am quite shaken but it seems like he is finally getting the ass kicking help he needs. Say a prayer for him if you would.

rock bottom is a different place for each person.

Studying Islam has made me an atheist

OT (is there one?) Ninja Cat!

Talking of Paris Hilton, she is in Sydney for New Years. GAAAH!

re: #107 albusteve

you didnt...that was a call to action from the link....go look at the BS and have a good laugh...

I did read it. I couldn't laugh though. The pansyness of it all gave me nausea. Thank you for the clarification.

re: #125 MJ

Israel should target UNRWA. It's part and parcel of Hamas and provides them with all kinds of support.

Aren't they the ones seen having tea with Hezbollah?

re: #69 Kosh's Shadow

Entering a war zone is against international law, and extremely stupid.
Israel should take the ship and intern everyone on board until hostilities with Gaza are over.
Then the boat and all contents should be sold, and the proceeds used to pay those Israelis who suffered under attacks from Gaza. The internees should be sent to Egypt unless they can cover air fare from Israel.

I don't get why hostiles are allowed to enter a combat zone. This includes Tony Blair's yucky sister-in-law, Cynthia McKinney, and most of the "journalists" who go to bash Israel.

They should be interned, as you said. No more "Mr. Nice Guy," Israel.

re: #117 freedombilly

I recently found out that my best friend who had been completely sober for seven years had gone back to the dark side and way further than he had ever been before. Actually overdosed and was resuscitated. I am quite shaken but it seems like he is finally getting the ass kicking help he needs. Say a prayer for him if you would.

Yes, with pleasure.

re: #128 ggt

rock bottom is a different place for each person.

Well said. This time he actually sounded scared and optimistic. When I heard the best man in my wedding tell me that I almost went to his funeral recently it certainly made me stop, be thankful, and take inventory. I have called a few friends that I have fallen out of touch with since then just to say hello.

re: #131 Crux Australis

Talking of Paris Hilton, she is in Sydney for New Years. GAAAH!

Did she bring the Pink Bentley?

re: #9 westbankmama

Cynthia McKinney is sailing to Gaza

Come Fire Away

I'm sailing today, with a precious cargo of virgin sheep
I've got to be free, free to fire the mortars ahead of me
On board, I'm the captain, so climb aboard
We'll search for casualties on every shore
And I'll try, oh lord, what I'll try to carry on
I look to the C-4, its electric waves spark the det-cords
Many bodies, how glad
Think of our childhood detonations at bus stops
We war happily forever, so the Zionist story goes
But somehow we missed out on our sovereignty
But well try best that we can to self-victimize
A car swarm of martyrs appeared around my head
They sang to me this song of hope, and this is what they said
They said come fire away, come fire away
Come fire away with me
Come fire away, come fire away
Come fire my AK with me!

/g'nite

re: #135 SummerSong

Yes, with pleasure.

Thank you infidel!

re: #137 Dustyvet

Did she bring the Pink Bentley?

is that her personal toy? or a car?

re: #137 Dustyvet

Did she bring the Pink Bentley?

Why don't drunk girls who can't drive anyways drive something smaller? Less likely to clip something.

re: #131 Crux Australis

Talking of Paris Hilton, she is in Sydney for New Years. GAAAH!

If you really want to scream here's another fact: The Hilton sisters (Nicky will be there as well) are being paid $400,000 to attend the party. Paris and Nicky Hilton don't pay to go to parties; Parties pay for them to show up.

re: #140 albusteve

is that her personal toy? or a car?

It's umm, a toy, no wait, it's a car...Runs screaming from the room....

re: #137 Dustyvet

Did she bring the Pink Bentley?

I have no idea. I was just listening to the radio news. Haven't watched TV for 2 days.

re: #131 Crux Australis

Hey Crux sorry about your losing the match and series. For the first time SA cricket is in a really good "space". The news over here is really going crazy. You would think that SA won the world cup or something. You guys may have the one over SA in the one days and T20. The side is not nearly as settled as the test side.

re: #141 freedombilly

Why don't drunk girls who can't drive anyways drive something smaller? Less likely to clip something.

Roller skates?

re: #142 Dark_Falcon

If you really want to scream here's another fact: The Hilton sisters (Nicky will be there as well) are being paid $400,000 to attend the party. Paris and Nicky Hilton don't pay to go to parties; Parties pay for them to show up.

Nice work, if you can get it.

re: #131 Crux Australis

Talking of Paris Hilton, she is in Sydney for New Years. GAAAH!

Or Sydney is in her.

re: #146 Dustyvet

Roller skates?

ROTFLMAO!

G'nite, and don't let the baby aadvarks bite...or snuffle...or whatever it is they do...

re: #140 albusteve

is that her personal toy? or a car?

It's a car. She had a pink Bentley for a short time this month. It has since been either returned or repainted.

re: #141 freedombilly

Why don't drunk girls who can't drive anyways drive something smaller? Less likely to clip something.

I was looking for something else, but this seems appropriate.

re: #133 NJDhockeyfan

Aren't they the ones seen having tea with Hezbollah?

"As a recent report issued by the Herzliya-based Global Research in International Affairs details, UNRWA's scandalous policies include doing everything to prevent resettlement of the refugees out of the "refugee camps." UNRWA's schools are places where anti-American and anti-Semitic indoctrination is business as usual and virtual recruiting offices for terror groups. Its facilities are virtual military bases for those groups.

That all this goes on not only under the authority of the U.N. but at the expense of U.S. taxpayers (who fund much of the U.N.'s activities) is outrageous.

It is the U.N. as a whole and UNRWA in particular that is the insult to the honor of the organization. Reform can only begin with UNRWA's dissolution, which is a course of action that should be at the top of Washington's Middle East priority list."
[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

re: #148 Erik The Red

Or Sydney is in her.

There's a movie here someplace:

Paris does Sydney!

re: #141 freedombilly

Why don't drunk girls who can't drive anyways drive something smaller? Less likely to clip something.

Must be the same reason drunk girls always throw their arms over their heads and scream. They do!

re: #20 Kosh's Shadow

Earlier, lizards were wondering if she'd be the new St. Pancake.
I suggested
St. Rubber Dinghy
or
St. Boat Anchor
depending on how well she floats.

"St. Dinghy" has a nice ring to it.

/drive-by as I wander to bed

re: #152 Kosh's Shadow

I was looking for something else, but this seems appropriate.

Might be the funniest I've ever laughed on LGF! Trying not to wake my family up...Trying to breath...Oh dear.

re: #153 MJ

"As a recent report issued by the Herzliya-based Global Research in International Affairs details, UNRWA's scandalous policies include doing everything to prevent resettlement of the refugees out of the "refugee camps." UNRWA's schools are places where anti-American and anti-Semitic indoctrination is business as usual and virtual recruiting offices for terror groups. Its facilities are virtual military bases for those groups.

That all this goes on not only under the authority of the U.N. but at the expense of U.S. taxpayers (who fund much of the U.N.'s activities) is outrageous.

It is the U.N. as a whole and UNRWA in particular that is the insult to the honor of the organization. Reform can only begin with UNRWA's dissolution, which is a course of action that should be at the top of Washington's Middle East priority list."
[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

thanks for that...

re: #152 Kosh's Shadow

I was looking for something else, but this seems appropriate.

Mocking creationists never goes out of style.

re: #157 freedombilly

Pat, I'd like to buy a vowel please. Is there an "e"? PIMF!

No

Preview is my friend = PIMF

re: #158 albusteve

thanks for that...

There are some excellent articles there. Highly recommend the site:

[Link: www.gloriacenter.org...]

Oh wait........you mean in

"trying to breath" Yeah.....should be an e. breathe

One of the strangest things I've ever seen was Paris Hilton holding up, and endorsing, a CD reissue of the album Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart.

re: #162 MJ

There are some excellent articles there. Highly recommend the site:

[Link: www.gloriacenter.org...]

it's booked

re: #145 Erik The Red

Hey Crux sorry about your losing the match and series. For the first time SA cricket is in a really good "space". The news over here is really going crazy. You would think that SA won the world cup or something. You guys may have the one over SA in the one days and T20. The side is not nearly as settled as the test side.

What would you expect after virtually half the (test) side retired last year. And we have a tour of SA coming in Feb to April. The one day squad is a different proposition entirely.

re: #163 SummerSong

Yup!

re: #154 Dustyvet

There's a movie here someplace:

Paris does Sydney!

I'm glad my real name isn't Sydney.

UNRWA: Refuge Of Rejectionism
Barry Rubin, Asaf Romirowsky, and Jonathan Spyer
May 8, 2008
A Report from the Global Research in International Affairs (GLORIA) Center

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

On the surface, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) seems a humanitarian group helping Palestinian refugees. In reality, it actually helps destroy the chance of Arab-Israeli peace, promotes terrorism, and holds Palestainians back from rebuilding their lives.

Unique in history, UNRWA's job is to keep Palestinian refugees in suspended animation--and at low living standards--until they achieve the goal set for them by the PLO and Hamas: Israel's extinction. In the meantime, their suffering and anger is maintained as a weapon to encourage them toward violence and intransigence.

UNRWA schools become hotbeds of anti-Western, anti-American, and anti-Semitic indoctrination, recruiting offices for terrorist groups. UNRWA's services are dominated by radicals who staff and subsidize radical groups while potentially intimidating anyone from voicing a different line. UNWRA facilities are used to store and transport weapons, actually serving as military bases.

In this process, UNRWA has broken all the rules that are supposed to govern humanitarian enterprises. Consequently, UNRWA is the exact opposite of other refugee relief operations. They seek to resettle refugees; UNRWA is dedicated to blocking resettlement. They help refugees to live normal lives so that they can move on with their existence; UNRWA's role is to ensure their lives remain abnormal so they are filled with anger and a thirst for revenge that inspires violence and can only be quenched by a victorious return. They try to create stable conditions for refugees; UNRWA's mission is to enable radical political activity and indoctrination by armed groups which ensures a continual state of near chaos.

Rest here:
[Link: www.gloriacenter.org...]

re: #168 Crux Australis

I'm glad my real name isn't Sydney.

LOL!

re: #12 jcm

Fighter Jet Crashes Near Marine Corps Base in North Carolina

Plane was an AV-8B Harrier.

Sad news. I used to live in Camp Lejeune, down the road from Cherry Point. I love that place. Camp Lejeune, that is, don't remember ever actually going to Cherry Point.

re: #164 Emperor Norton

It's a fake. BTW, great handle you have!

re: #164 Emperor Norton

One of the strangest things I've ever seen was Paris Hilton holding up, and endorsing, a CD reissue of the album Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart.

Did I really just read a post on LGF mentioning both Paris Hilton and Captain Beefheart? My new BFF and Tropical Hot Dog Night together? I think I am hallucinating and need to go to bed!

Classic fauxtography!

re: #27 Captain Amercia

What about Paris Hilton's bedroom?

Paris Hilton's bedroom is like the Hiroshima of hedonism -- a fireball of fornication and a dust cloud of sexually transmitted debris.

/g'nite, again.

I don't like Australian summers. Yesterday was tropical and muggy and humid but today it's a dry and hot and windy. I can't win.

re: #165 albusteve

it's booked

Here's a case study of how Middle East politics really work:

* Hamas really believes its own propaganda, expecting victory despite the odds. Costs and casualties are irrelevant. The battle will go on until total victory even if that takes decades. This indicates Hamas will not moderate--the same applies to Hizballah, Syria, and Iran.
* At the same time, Hamas is not only indifferent to its own people's welfare, it actually seeking to inflict suffering on them as a political strategy. The worse off Palestinians are, Hamas believes, the more likely they will fight and die. This "the worse things are, the better they are," is the exact opposite of Western perspectives.

Read the whole thingLiar, Liar, Pants on Ceasefire

re: #124 jcm
Hey jcm - she has indeed provoked gales of laughter out here!
Hey I asked y'all on the prior thread but I reckon you'd come over here: if Israel plants it's flag in Gaza and tells the occupants thereof to go south, where is it you want them to go?!

AUSSIES IN IRAQ ~ WALTZING MATILDA SUNG BY THE SEEKERS

re: #154 Dustyvet

There's a movie here someplace:

Paris does Sydney!

Is there a Sydney Hilton?

re: #177 realwest

Hey jcm - she has indeed provoked gales of laughter out here!
Hey I asked y'all on the prior thread but I reckon you'd come over here: if Israel plants it's flag in Gaza and tells the occupants thereof to go south, where is it you want them to go?!

Vermont?

re: #177 realwest

Hey jcm - she has indeed provoked gales of laughter out here!
Hey I asked y'all on the prior thread but I reckon you'd come over here: if Israel plants it's flag in Gaza and tells the occupants thereof to go south, where is it you want them to go?!

To a Galaxy far, far away

re: #178 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty - Thank you kindly for that!

night all!

weet dreams!

re: #176 Erik The Red

Here's a case study of how Middle East politics really work:

* Hamas really believes its own propaganda, expecting victory despite the odds. Costs and casualties are irrelevant. The battle will go on until total victory even if that takes decades. This indicates Hamas will not moderate--the same applies to Hizballah, Syria, and Iran.
* At the same time, Hamas is not only indifferent to its own people's welfare, it actually seeking to inflict suffering on them as a political strategy. The worse off Palestinians are, Hamas believes, the more likely they will fight and die. This "the worse things are, the better they are," is the exact opposite of Western perspectives.

Read the whole thingLiar, Liar, Pants on Ceasefire

I'm reading the newest article on the site. Hamas reminds me of The Party from Orwell's 1984. Their slogans seem to be the same:

War is Peace.
Freedom is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.

re: #182 realwest

Hey Dusty - Thank you kindly for that!

Welcomes...:)

re: #179 ggt
Hey ggt - how are you tonight this morning?!

G'nite Lizards....crawling back into my nest.

re: #186 realwest
re: #183 ggt

Hmmm, too late, as usual, anyway, weet dreams to you too!

re: #13 Wyatt Earp

Detective finds stolen gun in suspect's toilet.

Wow, what a crappy place to hide something. Heh.

must have been a water pistol....

/white smoke

re: #187 NJDhockeyfan
Shoot, too late AGAIN! Wanted to ask you about your interviews. Oh well. Good night to you, sleep well.

re: #177 realwest

Hey jcm - she has indeed provoked gales of laughter out here!
Hey I asked y'all on the prior thread but I reckon you'd come over here: if Israel plants it's flag in Gaza and tells the occupants thereof to go south, where is it you want them to go?!

Sinai or Egypt. Make Egypt live up to what it promised the Palis in '48 when it encouraged them to leave.

The Pellet With The Poison

re: #184 Dark_Falcon

The best part and sums up what I have being trying to say here for the last couple days.

Conclusion: The problem with no solution

Of course, Israel does not win a complete victory. Hamas does not fall. The problem is not gone. For Hamas will define survival as victory. Hamas, like the PLO before it, wins one "victory" after another and always ends up worse off.

The conflict will be back, however it ends this round, on whatever day it ends. Quiet will return, the supplies will flow back into Gaza. And so many months in the future the process will be repeated.

There is, however, an important difference. Israel uses its time not only for military preparations but to educate its children, build its infrastructure, raise its living standards. Hamas doesn't.

"We believe in death," Hamas says, "You believe in life."

Be careful what you wish for, you will get it.

[Link: picasaweb.google.com...]

Well 2008 has been great! Despite breaking my xyphoid at Pipeline, RE-tearing BOTH ACL's, I have been blessed with some of the best experiences of my life. So above is a link to some ten or so pictures from the past year! I hope you guys enjoy them! Happy New Year!

re: #191 jcm Yeah, but Egypt has made it pretty clear that they won't take 'em.
Besides which a lot of them were orignianlly from Jordan - which has been, afaik, strangley quiet about this whole matter.

re: #195 realwest

There was that whole 'Black September' thing.....

re: #194 FlagPony
Wow, you've had SOME year - great photos though, thanks!

anyone notice this?

* 'Death to All Juice' Little Green Footballs – Mon Dec 29, 4:06 pm EDT

on Yahoo news?

re: #195 realwest

Yeah, but Egypt has made it pretty clear that they won't take 'em.
Besides which a lot of them were orignianlly from Jordan - which has been, afaik, strangley quiet about this whole matter.

No love lost in Jordan for 'em
Black September. Jordan don't want 'em for sure, and is most likely a little relived. Refocuses their internal malcontents on Israel, not on King Hussein.

re: #195 realwest

Yeah, but Egypt has made it pretty clear that they won't take 'em.
Besides which a lot of them were orignianlly from Jordan - which has been, afaik, strangley quiet about this whole matter.

Jordan already cut their deal with the Palis years ago...expect no more from them now...it's Egypt and it's now or never...imo

re: #196 Fenway_Nation
Yeah, and the Jordanian Foreign Legion too.
How do you see this playing out?

Night all....

GO IDF!

re: #193 Erik The Red

That really does sum it up well. The only way to destroy Hamas would be to break the will of the population of Gaza, and that will not happen, sad to say. Breaking a population requires a large number of civilian casualties, and Israel will not do such a thing, nor could I in good conscience advocate such measures.

re: #194 FlagPony

awesome photos

re: #198 melinwy

anyone notice this?

* 'Death to All Juice' Little Green Footballs – Mon Dec 29, 4:06 pm EDT

on Yahoo news?

link please

re: #198 melinwy

oops it was the....Most Blogged - Top Stories

Your text to link...

I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I found this video explaining the different forms of government.

I think it's definitely worth a watch.

Good night everyone. May God be with Israel tonight.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

at the bottom of the page for most blogged

re: #201 realwest

Not well no matter how you slice it.

I get a little stupider whenever I hear the MSM and international apoligists for Hamas the Gaza Branch of the KKK.

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

That really does sum it up well. The only way to destroy Hamas would be to break the will of the population of Gaza, and that will not happen, sad to say. Breaking a population requires a large number of civilian casualties, and Israel will not do such a thing, nor could I in good conscience advocate such measures.

I don't think anyone would support the death of civilians(except Hamas). That why I feel that our greatgrand children will still be trying to get peace in the Middle East.

re: #197 realwest

yeah it's been a doozy! but incredible!

The American form of government

I don't know if this has been posted here before, but I found this video explaining the different forms of government.

I think it's definitely worth a watch.

(Sorry for the double post, didn't post the link right)

re: #202 jcm
Good night jcm - and I second that emotion! Sleep well.

re: #204 melinwy

your welcome! I always want to send them to Charles to post but didn't know how!

re: #211 Erik The Red

I don't think anyone would support the death of civilians(except Hamas). That why I feel that our greatgrand children will still be trying to get peace in the Middle East.

Agreed. Absent some sort of transformative catastrophe, the West will not be able to destroy Islamic terrorism. All we can to is contain it and provide incentives for Islam to change.

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

That really does sum it up well. The only way to destroy Hamas would be to break the will of the population of Gaza, and that will not happen, sad to say. Breaking a population requires a large number of civilian casualties, and Israel will not do such a thing, nor could I in good conscience advocate such measures.

seal the borders then disarm the entire strip...presto!....Hamas is neutered..let the lot of them stew and brew and pound down Egypts flimsy border....it would be a start...let hunger trump political ideology

re: #209 melinwy

Thanks

re: #218 Erik The Red

sorry should have done it the first time

re: #203 Dark_Falcon
Well I certainly agree with you about civilian casualties, but it seems to me that the Gaza civilians (assuming the IDF does go in and occupy Gaza, while killing Hama's fighters by the truckload) could certainly lose their enthusiasm for Hamas. Don't forget that those self same civilians allowed Hamas to literally use their back yards to place their rocket launchers and previously OVERWHELMINGLY elected Hamas - as I say, that enthusiasm for Hamas could easily decline significantly.

anyone see this at gateway pundit?

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

re: #217 albusteve

seal the borders then disarm the entire strip...presto!....Hamas is neutered..let the lot of them stew and brew and pound down Egypts flimsy border....it would be a start...let hunger trump political ideology

The problem with that is that they would add additional Islamist pressure on the Egyptian government. I don't think that would be in our interest. Gaza is the world's largest loony bin; It's best if the inmates can be disarmed but then kept in the asylum.

re: #200 albusteve OK, then a very simple question - since Egypt and Jordan have said NO - and in no uncertain terms to the Pali's coming into either nation - what will happen to the Palestinians in Gaza?

re: #221 melinwy
Well she's a start (see my #220).

re: #208 freedombilly
Good night and Amen.

re: #220 realwest

Well I certainly agree with you about civilian casualties, but it seems to me that the Gaza civilians (assuming the IDF does go in and occupy Gaza, while killing Hama's fighters by the truckload) could certainly lose their enthusiasm for Hamas. Don't forget that those self same civilians allowed Hamas to literally use their back yards to place their rocket launchers and previously OVERWHELMINGLY elected Hamas - as I say, that enthusiasm for Hamas could easily decline significantly.

If done right it will help. The people of Gaza need to be shocked into contact with reality. But it may not work even then. Their ideology is very strong in their minds and too many of them know nothing else. It will rise again unless in can be supplanted. And no western country can at present really handle the business of said replacement, as it would require now absent self-confidence.

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

The problem with that is that they would add additional Islamist pressure on the Egyptian government. I don't think that would be in our interest. Gaza is the world's largest loony bin; It's best if the inmates can be disarmed but then kept in the asylum.

what kind of pressure?...who cares where the Gazans live...they can stay home if they want....RealWest is exactly right with regard to the civilian population....we pay Egypt a ton of money to play ball so they owe us in that regard...who's gonna pressure Egypt and if they did what of it....I guess I dont get what your saying...

Horses Donkey's a couple of camels and some sheep protest against Israels "Nazi" like aggresion against Gaza.

re: #224 realwest

She is, I just worry if she is safe. She did speak out and as we have seen they have qualms about abusing/killing children or anyone for that matter

re: #220 realwest

Well I certainly agree with you about civilian casualties, but it seems to me that the Gaza civilians (assuming the IDF does go in and occupy Gaza, while killing Hama's fighters by the truckload) could certainly lose their enthusiasm for Hamas. Don't forget that those self same civilians allowed Hamas to literally use their back yards to place their rocket launchers and previously OVERWHELMINGLY elected Hamas - as I say, that enthusiasm for Hamas could easily decline significantly.

The problem is the people only have 2 choices. Support Hamas or support peace with Israel. I think we all know which one they will choose 100% of the time.

re: #229 melinwy

PIMF no qualms

re: #223 realwest

OK, then a very simple question - since Egypt and Jordan have said NO - and in no uncertain terms to the Pali's coming into either nation - what will happen to the Palestinians in Gaza?

Saudi Arabia has lots of empty land.... as does Syria.

/just a thought

re: #222 Dark_Falcon
"The problem with that is that they would add additional Islamist pressure on the Egyptian government."
Do you really think so? As far as I can tell a) Egypt has SERIOUSLY sealed it's border with Gaza and b) the Muslim Brotherhood has issued only what I percieve to be perfunctory condemnations.

re: #227 albusteve

what kind of pressure?...who cares where the Gazans live...they can stay home if they want....RealWest is exactly right with regard to the civilian population....we pay Egypt a ton of money to play ball so they owe us in that regard...who's gonna pressure Egypt and if they did what of it....I guess I dont get what your saying...

Moving Gazans into Egypt would inject more Islamists into a country where they are already a serious problem. I don't want to risk an Islamist takeover in Egypt.

re: #223 realwest

OK, then a very simple question - since Egypt and Jordan have said NO - and in no uncertain terms to the Pali's coming into either nation - what will happen to the Palestinians in Gaza?

under a presumed occupation they can have an election if they like...or they can live on the dole like animals....not sure but however it turns they will quickly learn that the Israelis are better overlords than Hamas was....Israel must call the shots here...

re: #179 ggt

Is there a Sydney Hilton?

Yes, but Paris isn't staying there. LOL

Hamas TV Celebrates Targeting Israeli Civilians

re: #226 Dark_Falcon
Well I think some of them HAVE been shocked into reality - see #221 melinwy comment above.

re: #233 realwest

Didn't Egypt fire on them when they tried to cross the border?
I'd say that was real serious.

The family reunion is winding down with only a few major meltdowns. My kids and I got together tonight to compare notes and we found out that my moonbat sister, whom they met this week for the first (and probably now the last) time has been taunting each one of them. Here's a sample:

AUNTIE MOONBAT: So, I understand that you were in the Israeli Army.

MY SON: Yeah, that's right.

AUNTIE MOONBAT: So, have you ever heard of Rachel Corrie?

SON (thinking: WTF!) Yeah.

AUNTIE MOONBAT: Well, what do you think of her?

SON (thinking: She's a not too bright fucked up nazi bitch who played chicken with a 'dozer and got pancakefied, but if I say this to Auntie Moonbat, Grandma is going to kick my ass ) That happened before I went in to the service.

AUNTIE MOONBAT: They made a play about her. Did you know that?

SON: Yeah, I read about that on the news.

Apparently at this point Auntie Moonbat's dog tried to martyr himself by chomping on a grape that rolled off the buffet table, and stopped this painful conversation.

Now my kids and I will have Auntie Moonbat stories to swap for years to come, replacing the Uncle Homeless Doctor stories that are becoming rather stale.

Family reunions rock!

re: #232 redc1c4

Saudi Arabia has lots of empty land.... as does Syria.

/just a thought

So does Jordan.

re: #226 Dark_Falcon

If done right it will help. The people of Gaza need to be shocked into contact with reality. But it may not work even then. Their ideology is very strong in their minds and too many of them know nothing else. It will rise again unless in can be supplanted. And no western country can at present really handle the business of said replacement, as it would require now absent self-confidence.

what will rise again?...Hamas/Fatah militancy?....let it...what are they gonna do? seeth? they do that now....

re: #227 albusteve
I gather that what Dark Falcon is saying is that the jihadists (in Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood) would perhaps topple the Egyptian government if that government didn't allow the Palistinians entrance to Egypt.
I disagree with him - see #233 above - but I think that's what he's saying.

Anyone seen Slumdog Millionaire? Mumbai rocks - so does this movie. Blistering soundtrack too.

re: #238 realwest

Well I think some of them HAVE been shocked into reality - see #221 melinwy comment above.

She may have learned but it must be a large number of people in order to effect a change. If those people who have come to their senses remain few and isolated they'll simply be pummeled back to the party line or killed. That girl may find herself the victim of a community honor killing for what she said (though I pray that this does not happen).

re: #230 Erik The Red

The problem is the people only have 2 choices. Support Hamas or support peace with Israel. I think we all know which one they will choose 100% of the time.

there will be NO Hamas...there will be NO weapons....the Palis will have to eat or die...it's not very complicated

re: #235 albusteve
"Israel must call the shots here" - I don't disagree with that at all.

re: #244 Smilla

Anyone seen Slumdog Millionaire? Mumbai rocks - so does this movie. Blistering soundtrack too.

I saw Despereaux last night. This movie sucks. Bunch of outtakes from Shrek, Ratatouille and American Tail. Too scary for little kids, too lame for big kids, no humor.

re: #232 redc1c4

Saudi Arabia has lots of empty land.... as does Syria.

/just a thought

They don't want them. To much trouble.

re: #239 melinwy
Yes, they did and they actually searched the few ambulances they did let through to ensure that those inside had in fact been wounded.

Actually, given what I think are valid concerns expressed by Dark Falcon, I've been genuinely surprised by Egypt's position in all of this.

re: #243 realwest

I gather that what Dark Falcon is saying is that the jihadists (in Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood) would perhaps topple the Egyptian government if that government didn't allow the Palistinians entrance to Egypt.
I disagree with him - see #233 above - but I think that's what he's saying.

No, I was saying that to let the Gazans into Egypt would be the thing that poses the risk. Best to keep them contained.

re: #249 Erik The Red
Yeah, ya know it's kinda funny - in a sad way, not a ha ha way, but NOBODY seems to want the Palestinians in their country.

re: #243 realwest

I gather that what Dark Falcon is saying is that the jihadists (in Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood) would perhaps topple the Egyptian government if that government didn't allow the Palistinians entrance to Egypt.
I disagree with him - see #233 above - but I think that's what he's saying.

not gonna happen....Jordan already wrote the rules on that one....Israel is in a perfect position to seize this entire problem and turn it to their favor....but they absolutely must take Hamas/Fatah out of the equation and they can do it...look what they we accomplished in Iraq....remember Fallujah II?....it can be done...screw Egypt....force them to comply or just let the Palis go on like they are only toothless....Hamas has to go as a militant entity....otherwise nothing else will work

re: #251 Dark_Falcon
I'm sorry - it's late and I need to get to sleep but I don't understand you're reasoning - starting with calling them Gazans - they are in fact Palestinians. And letting them into Egypt MIGHT make Egypt unstable but would certainly make Israel safer, I would think.

re: #246 albusteve

there will be NO Hamas...there will be NO weapons....the Palis will have to eat or die...it's not very complicated