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Israelis Shot in Denmark

World | Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:13:33 pm PST

A shooting attack in a Danish shopping mall, possibly related to the events in Gaza.

COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) - A gunman wounded two Israelis working at a packed central Denmark shopping mall Wednesday, Danish police said.

The two wounded men are Israelis in their 20s, police spokesman Lars Thede said. He said it was too early to speculate on whether they were targeted because of their nationality.

UPDATE at 12/31/08 12:23:19 pm:

More details at Politiken.dk: Israelis shot and wounded in Denmark.

Two Israelis were wounded today in a shooting incident in the Rosengardscentret in Odense on the island of Funen just after 3 p.m., according to police. Police said the nationality of the perpetrator was uncertain, although he was said to be a foreigner.

One of the victims was hit in the arm, the other was wounded in the leg, according to reports. Both were taken to hospital, but police were unable to provide information on their condition.

Eyewitnesses told bt.dk that the perpetrator arrived in a hairdresser’s salon owned by one of the Israelis. He was said by eyewitnesses to have shouted something ‘in a Middle-Eastern language’ after which he began shooting.

One of the Israelis was said to have tried to flee, while the other threw a stool at the man. Both, however, were hit.

The police spokesman said that six bullets had been fired.

(Hat tip: Zombie.)

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1 pegcity  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:14:17pm

wonder what the religion of the shooter was?

2 pyjoe  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:14:33pm

uhm, duh.

3 Cato the Elder  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:15:36pm

I've been wondering if my IDF paratrooper cap might get me in trouble around here. (Lots of foreign students, a fair number of keffiyah-wearing moonbats.)

Guess I'll find out. I'm not doffing it.

4 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:15:36pm

Smile, you're on Candid Camera...

5 gclaghorn  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:15:45pm

How sad.

6 Ojoe  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:16:57pm

Delenda

7 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:17:11pm

I thought europe was too civilized to have mall shootings like those ruffians in America.

8 astronmr20  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:17:32pm
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.

Q'uran 9:30

9 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:17:32pm

A different version of the same article...

Gunman wounds 2 Israelis in Denmark mall shooting

A gunman shot and wounded two Israelis working at a packed central Denmark shopping mall Wednesday, police said.

Police spokesman Lars Thede said it was not immediately clear whether the Israelis were targeted because of their nationality. A video surveillance camera showed a swarthy man with a dark mustache and dark hair in his mid-20s pulling out a gun before opening fire.

"We cannot say whether he is Palestinian, Iraqi, Iranian or Bosnian, or where he is from," Thede said.

10 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:18:08pm

According to the B.T. newspaper's Web site, a man shouted something in another language and opened fire. Another Israeli inside the hairdressing shop threw a chair at the gunman, the newspaper said.

"Feliz Navidad" for sure!
/////////////////////////////////////////////

11 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:18:13pm
12 astronmr20  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:18:35pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

A different version of the same article...

Gunman wounds 2 Israelis in Denmark mall shooting

...so he ain't exactly "Danish." Seems we know that much so far.

13 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:18:41pm

re: #3 Cato the Elder

I travel with a Canadian Maple Leaf on my backpack.

14 Sharmuta  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:18:43pm
"We cannot say whether he is Palestinian, Iraqi or where he is from," he said. "It is too early to say whether this has something to do with what happens elsewhere."

Undercover Buddhist, I bet.

15 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:19:02pm

Charles, there are many better articles than this lame AP one.

Try:

Politiken.DK: Israelis shot and wounded in Denmark (with much better info)

Full Google news search for articles about this incident (dozens of superior-to-AP articles).

16 kafir lover  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:19:06pm

re: #1 pegcity

southern baptist

17 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:19:22pm

And so it starts. "too early to speculate"?

Not for me. I have no doubt the motive here.

18 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:20:05pm

re: #14 Sharmuta

Undercover Buddhist, I bet.


My guess is that he was a member of the militant wing of the Salvation Army.

19 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:20:13pm

re: #11 buzzsawmonkey

No, it's not too early to speculate whether they were targeted because of their nationality. It may be too early to confirm it, but even that is doubtful.

Nor is it too early to speculate that such statements that it is "too early to speculate" are issued because the relevant officials know damn well that the victims were targeted because of their nationality, and are trying desperately to downplay the fact.

Many of the other articles I link to in #15 do indeed confirm that it was an Arab man perpetrator and that the victims were targeted because they were Israelis.

20 astronmr20  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:20:15pm

re: #17 Crimsonfisted

And so it starts. "too early to speculate"?

Not for me. I have no doubt the motive here.

He asked for "no salt" on his pretzel?

21 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:20:26pm

Apparently these two Israelis were shot while working on their stall, selling Dead sea cosmetics. Apparently, lots of young Israelis do tha sort of thing to earn some money.

There's such a stall here as well.
Next year (thats Saturdy, tomorrow everything will be closed, hang-over cures, see!) I'll go there and chat with them and donate some dosh, for drinks.

It really angers me, that some jihadist thinks he can do in non-islamic countries what he'll do in Gaza.

22 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:20:49pm

re: #19 zombie

Many of the other articles I link to in #15 do indeed confirm that it was an Arab man perpetrator and that the victims were targeted because they were Israelis.

Shocking!
//////////////////

23 DEZes  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:20:55pm

Those crazy Hoosier Amish youths.
/S, did I reaaly need to?

24 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:21:00pm
25 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:21:01pm

re: #15 zombie

From your link....
Gunman opens fire on Israelis working at mall in Denmark


The men, who were selling hair-care products, had been harassed by a group of youths in recent days, Denmark's Ritzau news agency said.

According to the B.T. newspaper's Web site, a man shouted something in another language and opened fire. Another Israeli inside the hairdressing shop threw a chair at the gunman, the newspaper said.

26 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:21:39pm

According to the B.T. newspaper's Web site, a man shouted something in another language and opened fire.

Maybe something like: AZllah Akbar!

27 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:21:40pm

The JTA seems quite sure of itself on this issue:

Arabs attack Israeli-owned store in Denmark
December 31, 2008
(JTA) -- Arab gunmen attacked an Israeli-owned stand at a mall in Denmark.

Arab youths opened fire on the Israelis working at the store in the Danish city of Odenza, located about 125 miles north of the capital city of Copenhagen. Two of the Israeli employees were lightly injured. The attack was in retaliation for Israel's operation in Gaza, Israel's Foreign Ministry said.

28 pegcity  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:21:41pm

re: #21 yma o hyd

yup, saw tons of them working at mall of america.

29 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:22:02pm

re: #14 Sharmuta

Undercover Buddhist Amish, I bet.

Fixed that for you.

30 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:22:21pm
31 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:22:44pm

re: #14 Sharmuta

Undercover Buddhist, I bet.

Mormon, maybe?

32 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:22:55pm

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

PUNt

33 Chicken Kiev  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:23:06pm

I guess we are lucky by comparison that here in SF thus far only a Holocaust memorial has been vandalized -- by a "suspect" described only as male and wearing a "white bandanna."

Hmm ... with little black checks on it, and soft fringe?

34 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:23:17pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

That was exactly what I was going to point out in my next comment, but you beat me to it:

To repeat:

"The men, who were selling hair-care products, had been harassed by a group of youths in recent days, Denmark's Ritzau news agency said."

No, really, it was a random attack! Stuff like that happens all the time in Odense!

/s

35 EmmmieG  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:23:20pm

They speculated they might be: Palestinian, Iraqi, Iranian or Bosnian,

What do these four countries have in common? I can't...quite...remember...

/Give me a minute, I'll come up with it.

36 astronmr20  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:23:38pm

Are these kids okay? Were they killed or only injured? ?

37 Blackacre  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:23:44pm

Mumbai . . . Odense . . . funny how they just happen to stumble upon the local Jews. Like always finding the needles in two haystacks.

38 Tumulus11  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:23:58pm
'The men, who were selling hair care products, had been harassed by a group of youths in recent days, Denmark's Ritzau news agency said.

According to the B.T. newspaper's Web site, a man shouted something in another language and opened fire.'

. Takbir.

The option to sit down together without preconditions was not offered.

39 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:24:21pm

Doesn't Denmark have strict gun control laws?

How's that working for you?

40 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:24:23pm

re: #35 EmmmieG

They speculated they might be: Palestinian, Iraqi, Iranian or Bosnian,

What do these four countries have in common? I can't...quite...remember...

/Give me a minute, I'll come up with it.

They all suck?

41 EmmmieG  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:24:27pm

re: #31 father_of_10

Mormon, maybe?

Yes, and he was yelling; "The orange gratings in the jello! They spoke to me!"

(sorry, insider joke)

42 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:24:41pm

re: #33 Chicken Kiev

Link issue - does not appear to work...

43 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:24:50pm

re: #33 Chicken Kiev

I guess we are lucky by comparison that here in SF thus far only a Holocaust memorial has been vandalized -- by a "suspect" described only as male and wearing a "white bandanna."

Hmm ... with little black checks on it, and soft fringe?

Nonononono no!
It had a red emblem, like the rising sun ... was a secret ninja, fershure!

44 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:25:32pm

re: #41 EmmmieG

Yes, and he was yelling; "The orange gratings in the jello! They spoke to me!"

(sorry, insider joke)

No, it was the shredded carrot/lime/cottage cheese jello that went bad . . .

45 bj  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:25:33pm

There are lots of Israeli kids (most are former IDF if over 22 years old) in the US/Canada/Europe currently - working, traveling, visiting, studying. If you know any, please help protect them.

46 EmmmieG  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:26:01pm

re: #40 VegasRick

Well, yes, I was going to add that these are all countries that fall into the "using new technology and innovation" rather than "creating new technology and innovation" categories, but those are rather large, and it seemed to be laying it on a bit thick.

Also, there is the category of "Can only dream about using new technology and innovation," as well. Those are the ones I actually feel sorry for.

47 Hard Right  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:26:02pm

That was hardly a proprotional response.
////

48 debutaunt  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:26:14pm

re: #39 goddessoftheclassroom

Doesn't Denmark have strict gun control laws?

How's that working for you?

The chair throwing has picked up.

49 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:26:32pm

re: #37 Blackacre

Mumbai . . . Odense . . . funny how they just happen to stumble upon the local Jews. Like always finding the needles in two haystacks.

Well, Odense is not exactly a heaving metropolis.
And everybody knows that Jooooos look ... somehow different ...

///

50 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:26:33pm

YNet news has more info:

Unknown assailants, believed to be Arab, attacked salespeople at an Israeli-owned stand in Denmark, the Foreign Ministry said Wednesday afternoon. Two Israelis reportedly suffered light injuries in the shooting attack.

Ministry Spokesman Yossi Levy, said the assailants identified the salespeople as Israeli before opening fire at the stand, in the city of Odenza, west of the capital, Copenhagen. He said that according to reports received by the ministry the two Israelis did not suffer life-threatening injuries.

Foreign Ministry officials continue to monitor events as local police are looking into the attack. At this time, it is unclear how many attackers took part in the assault and whether they were arrested.

"Two Israelis working a Dead Sea Products stand in a mall were fired upon," Dan Oryan of the Israeli Embassy in Copenhagen told Ynet. "We don’t know how many people were involved in the shooting, but several individuals were seen fleeing the scene.
51 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:26:36pm

re: #10 VegasRick

According to the B.T. newspaper's Web site, a man shouted something in another language and opened fire. Another Israeli inside the hairdressing shop threw a chair at the gunman, the newspaper said.

"Feliz Navidad" for sure!
/////////////////////////////////////////////

Probably
Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad!

52 DEZes  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:26:54pm

re: #48 debutaunt

The chair throwing has picked up.

Bobby Knight defence.
/

53 EmmmieG  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:27:02pm

re: #44 father_of_10

Honest to goodness, I was once fed lemon jello with olives and walnuts. By Mormons, of course. Who else would do that to innocent jello?

54 Pastorius  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:27:39pm

The Muslims are really showing their true colors. We haven't had such a parade of Islamofascism since the Cartoon Wars.

I see this as an awesome learning opportunity for all of us.

The wages of appeasement are fear, anxiety, bowing down, and ultimately, our necks.

The wages of taking it to them is frothing, screaming, rioting, Jihado-idiocy, and ultimately, their defeat.

Thank God for Israel.

55 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:28:10pm

re: #21 yma o hyd

Apparently these two Israelis were shot while working on their stall, selling Dead sea cosmetics. Apparently, lots of young Israelis do tha sort of thing to earn some money.

There's such a stall here as well.
Next year (thats Saturdy, tomorrow everything will be closed, hang-over cures, see!) I'll go there and chat with them and donate some dosh, for drinks.

It really angers me, that some jihadist thinks he can do in non-islamic countries what he'll do in Gaza.

Our mall here has a couple of stalls like that, has had them for several years now.

Jihadists, of course, believe they can do that anywhere they want, whether in an Islamic country or not, because, well, gee, doncha know they are special. The world gives 'em a pass, while putting "international pressure" for Israel to stop defending herself.

56 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:28:12pm
The men, who were selling hair-care products, had been harassed by a group of youths in recent days, Denmark's Ritzau news agency said.


Where's the Zohan when you need him?

57 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:28:49pm

re: #51 Kosh's Shadow

Probably
Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad!

BeetleJuice, 3X.

58 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:28:55pm

re: #53 EmmmieG

Honest to goodness, I was once fed lemon jello with olives and walnuts. By Mormons, of course. Who else would do that to innocent jello?

They learn that from the secret BYU cookbook. If you successfully finish BOTH Ballroom Dance class and Dating, Courtship and Marriage 101, and are still not engaged, you get the secret cookbook to try out on your singke RM home teachers.

59 SlartyBartfast  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:28:57pm

re: #27 zombie

The JTA seems quite sure of itself on this issue:

Gunmen? Gunman? "...a group of men"? "Arab assailants"? "A group of Arab youths opened fire..."? "Palestinian Authority Arab terrorists"?

Confused? Those candidates were just pulled from the search summaries!

60 Throbert McGee  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:29:04pm

Hmmm -- apparently the shooting occurred in a hairdressing shop owned by one of the Israelis. Maybe the gunman was just a customer who was pissed off because the bitches had given him an unflattering haircut. (And what he was shouting in Arabic or Farsi was "Oh. My. God. This look is très 2007...")

//

61 Cato the Elder  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:29:10pm

Meanwhile, according to CNN:

Exiled Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal is ready to stop the fighting in exchange for an end to Israel's blockade of Gaza, the Russian Foreign Ministry announced.

Mashaal spoke with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Wednesday and outlined Hamas' position on the resumption of the Palestinian reconciliation process, the foreign ministry said.

"Mashaal said in response to [Lavrov] that they are ready to end the armed confrontation, but only if these measures are linked to steps intended to remove the Gaza Strip's blockade," the ministry said.

While living in self-imposed exile in Damascus, Syria, Mashaal remains the head of Hamas, which controls Gaza.

The "Palestinian reconciliation process"? So this is a fight between Palestinians. Damn, it gets so confusing...

62 badbear  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:29:14pm

The craven media once again plays the enabler for this dark ages death cult that we can't seem to bring ourselves to identify as the enemy.

63 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:29:43pm

re: #56 Kosh's Shadow

Where's the Zohan when you need him?

Nobody messes with the Zohan

64 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:30:28pm

Sayyid Qutb was pissed because he couldn't get a decent haircut in America. These two Israelis were connected with the hairdressing industry. The assailant was merely aggravated over the injustice done to Qutb. Nothing to see. Everything's explained. Move along.

/

65 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:30:47pm

re: #55 reine.de.tout

Our mall here has a couple of stalls like that, has had them for several years now.

Jihadists, of course, believe they can do that anywhere they want, whether in an Islamic country or not, because, well, gee, doncha know they are special. The world gives 'em a pass, while putting "international pressure" for Israel to stop defending herself.

I LOVE putting them in their place when the opportunity arises.

66 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:30:49pm

PIMF
singke=single

67 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:30:58pm

Danish tabloid B.T. has police report details (in Danish, unfortunately):

Attackers fled in Audi

Skuddrama: Araber skød israelere i Odense
...
Gerningsmanden flygtede i en sort Audi, som politiet har fundet ved H.C. Ørsteds kollegiet.
68 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:31:06pm
69 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:32:06pm

re: #48 debutaunt

The chair throwing has picked up.

I'll give up my chair, when they pry it from my cold dead hand!

“Force and mind are opposites; morality ends where a chair begins.”

70 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:32:08pm

re: #45 bj

There are lots of Israeli kids (most are former IDF if over 22 years old) in the US/Canada/Europe currently - working, traveling, visiting, studying. If you know any, please help protect them.

Or just go and have a little chat with them ...

71 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:32:09pm

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

I think you've found the root cause there.

Apphairantly not.

72 Racer X  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:32:19pm

re: #48 debutaunt

The chair throwing has picked up.

Disproportionate use of force!

73 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:32:23pm

re: #61 Cato the Elder

Meanwhile, according to CNN:

Exiled Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal is ready to stop the fighting in exchange for an end to Israel's blockade of Gaza, the Russian Foreign Ministry announced.


The "Palestinian reconciliation process"? So this is a fight between Palestinians. Damn, it gets so confusing...


Hamas must be running out of ammo. They need the blockade lifted so they can rearm.
The only way they'll stop shooting is when they have nothing left to shoot, so keep blowing up their ammo, Israel!

74 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:32:38pm

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

I think you've found the root cause there.

I look forward to when this split ends.

75 bj  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:32:47pm

re: #60 Throbert McGee

Hmmm -- apparently the shooting occurred in a hairdressing shop owned by one of the Israelis. Maybe the gunman was just a customer who was pissed off because the bitches had given him an unflattering haircut. (And what he was shouting in Arabic or Farsi was "Oh. My. God. This look is très 2007...")

//

We sell a lot of hairdressing products in malls. I say again, if you are aware of these Israeli kids abroad, please help protect them.

76 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:33:11pm

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

I think you've found the root cause there.

Imagine how John Edwards would have reacted to a bad haircut..

77 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:33:33pm
78 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:33:51pm

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

I think you've found the root cause there.

Gee, thanks!
And I thought it was just a po'made-up rationalization.

79 bj  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:34:00pm

re: #70 yma o hyd

Or just go and have a little chat with them ...

I have tabs on 13 right now. They are very vulnerable outside Israel.

80 badbear  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:34:09pm

re: #69 Dustyvet

I'll give up my chair, when they pry it from my cold dead hand!

“Force and mind are opposites; morality ends where a chair begins.”

Dusty - what'd they say at the VA?

81 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:34:34pm

Gaza can be very effectively isolated and subdued. Israel just needs to keep up the pounding and the blockades. They will run out of ammo and food and their people will turn on them.

82 CodePirate  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:34:40pm

re: #77 buzzsawmonkey

It will end only when the hot comb of justice is triumphant.

Not sure I want to get tangled up in this mess...

83 kafir lover  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:34:45pm

re: #16 kafir lover
/

84 RubyTuesday  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:35:13pm

Sounds like the shooter was a crappy marksman. Thank God.

85 J.S.  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:35:45pm

re: #11 buzzsawmonkey

Exactly...(the MSM requires the obsfucation whenever Israelis are attacked...interestingly, of course, the same does not occur when accusations are leveled against Israel...I could provide yet another example of this via CNN's "reportage" -- but it would be just more blood libels hurled by antisemites...this time it involves CNN's anchor desk desk jockies speculating about "why" Israel is striking Gaza...)

86 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:35:54pm

Translation of the article in my comment #67:

"Two men were hit when an Arabic appearance man shot two Israelis in the shopping center Rosengårdcentret in Odense.

31. DECEMBER 2008 17:03 FOR LASSE KARNER LAKA@BT.DK

According to witnesses the man came up Israelis hair salon and shouted something in a Middle Eastern language, after which he began to shoot. On an Israeli attempt to flee before he was hit.

Dan second Israeli man threw a stool after the perpetrator, but rather helped it.
...

Rosengårdscentret Center at Ørbækvej 75 and is one of the largest shopping centers with 152 shops and an area of 96,000 square meters. The center was open evening's New Year day from kl. 10 - 15

The offender fled in a black Audi, which police have found by HC Ørsteds College. His nationality is not yet known.

- We are looking for an offender at the moment, said the guard commander.

In Falck reported that running two wounded people to hospital in ambulances. ..."

87 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:36:09pm

re: #84 RubyTuesday

Sounds like the shooter was a crappy marksman. Thank God.

or those juices were fast and ellusive runners.

88 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:36:13pm

re: #54 Pastorius

The Muslims are really showing their true colors. We haven't had such a parade of Islamofascism since the Cartoon Wars.

I see this as an awesome learning opportunity for all of us.

The wages of appeasement are fear, anxiety, bowing down, and ultimately, our necks.

The wages of taking it to them is frothing, screaming, rioting, Jihado-idiocy, and ultimately, their defeat.

Thank God for Israel.


Indeed, thank God for Israel - because this war has made a surprisingly large number of crypto-anitsemites come out of hiding, showing their true colours.

89 Throbert McGee  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:36:30pm

(Oops -- shoulda read down in the thread; didn't see the updates about the "Dead Sea cosmetics" franchise. When I was Christmas shopping, I saw a couple of hot Middle Eastern guys selling them at a mall here in Northern Virginia... though I was too busy to chat and find out what their nationality was. I do remember that they specifically said "minerals from the Dead Sea in the Holy Land," rather than saying either "Israel" or "Palestine.")

90 bj  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:37:34pm

re: #89 Throbert McGee

(Oops -- shoulda read down in the thread; didn't see the updates about the "Dead Sea cosmetics" franchise. When I was Christmas shopping, I saw a couple of hot Middle Eastern guys selling them at a mall here in Northern Virginia... though I was too busy to chat and find out what their nationality was. I do remember that they specifically said "minerals from the Dead Sea in the Holy Land," rather than saying either "Israel" or "Palestine.")

They are Israelis. That is a US/Israel business.

91 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:37:45pm

re: #80 badbear

Dusty - what'd they say at the VA?

I have a Kidney stone, on medication and juice only. No soda for at least two weeks.

92 debutaunt  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:37:47pm

re: #89 Throbert McGee

(Oops -- shoulda read down in the thread; didn't see the updates about the "Dead Sea cosmetics" franchise. When I was Christmas shopping, I saw a couple of hot Middle Eastern guys selling them at a mall here in Northern Virginia... though I was too busy to chat and find out what their nationality was. I do remember that they specifically said "minerals from the Dead Sea in the Holy Land," rather than saying either "Israel" or "Palestine.")

If they had a bunch of chairs stacked nearby, there were most likely juices.

93 pat  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:38:09pm

If only the Jews had been more willing to talk it out with the Islamists./

94 SFGoth  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:38:11pm

re: #7 Sharmuta

I thought europe was too civilized to have mall shootings like those ruffians in America.

Europe is; their [bigoted word]s ain't. The irony is that Adolf's racial war to purify Europe will have the opposite effect of causing it to Arab-ify.

95 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:38:32pm
96 RubyTuesday  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:38:37pm

re: #87 HoosierHoops
I DO ♥ those Juices!

97 father_of_10[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:38:37pm
98 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:38:40pm

Lubavitch.com has some interesting background info on the case:

Two Israelis were shot Wednesday while managing their booth at a shopping mall in Odense, Denmark. According to Copenhagen's Chabad Rabbi Yitzchok Loewenthal, one of the victims is undergoing surgery for his wounds.
...

Rabbi Loewenthal was in contact with security at Denmark's Israeli embassy and police authorities following the attack, and says that police have recovered the black Audi getaway car, but have yet to apprehend the shooters.

Arab demonstrators protested in the center of town yesterday, and at the Israeli embassy. But, says Loewenthal, things are generally quiet in Copenhagen. Denmark's Jewish population numbers roughly 8,000, with the majority in Copenhagen,

By contrast, Odense has a strong Muslim population, and the victims were reportedly dealing with daily harassment by Muslims. Several years ago, recalls Rabbi Loewenthal, Chabad rabbinical students who had gone to Odense on outreach missions, were practically "stoned out of the city by local Muslims.

99 badbear  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:39:02pm

re: #91 Dustyvet

I have a Kidney stone, on medication and juice only. No soda for at least two weeks.

Rog...hang tough.

100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:39:42pm

re: #91 Dustyvet

I have a Kidney stone, on medication and juice only. No soda for at least two weeks.

May they offer you Lithotripsy. Worked fabulously for my wife.

101 rockmanvermont  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:40:26pm

hey guys,I know this may sound insane,especially since the fighting is still going on,but what if Israel defeats Hamas,takes over Gaza,and transfers control to Egypt,sounds crazy I know.But think about it this way:

Egypt is one of the few(I actually think only) Arab country to recognize the sovereignty of Israel,granted many Egyptians and Israelis do not get along,but with that type of connection,it should not be forgotten,even if it was after several wars that Israel has kicked the crap out of Egypt.But it may be a win win situation if Gaza was controlled by Egypt,that way,Israel will not be some occupying power,Egypt will control and implement a government that wont be shooting rockets 24/7/365 and it may be a step towards more stability in the region,after all Egypt has sent aid trucks themselves,help them make the good PR for the west by standing with Israel(good pr,good cooperation,steps toward success,peace,stability,and less anger) and in the end Egypt gets Gaza,better standing in the world,Israel gets to show their friendly side(again,but this one may last) and Gaza will be under better leadership that does not teach four year olds to be dead by the time they're 18.

Sorry for the long rant,but add on to it if you'd like,But when I read the stories of Egypt giving aid,and even firing on people hopping over their border(to avoid the mess spilling over,plus to avoid looking like they have sympathy for Hamas).And the little glimpses of hope here and there,I think it is possible,but that is just my opinion.If the Egyptian government sided on with Israel by supplying the aid while cooperating with Israeli Intel,we could be seeing a 180 that has never happened before,and we would no longer be on a merry-go-round.

102 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:41:08pm

re: #98 zombie

Lubavitch.com has some interesting background info on the case:

The aroma is certainly flagrant fragrant, isn't it?

103 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:41:08pm

re: #99 badbear

Rog...hang tough.

Thanks, I will. Thanks for your good thoughts...:)

104 Chicken Kiev  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:41:16pm

Here is a different link to the story about the vandalized Holocaust memorial in San Francisco.

105 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:41:19pm
106 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:41:31pm

I thought Europe was a gun free zone

107 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:41:37pm

re: #100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

May they offer you Lithotripsy. Worked fabulously for my wife.

I once supervised an intern that was researching a new nephrolothiasis shockwave lithotripter. It was a definite stone-blaster!

108 EmmmieG  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:41:43pm

re: #101 rockmanvermont

Good idea, except that the Egyptians don't want the Palestinians. They're a beehive of stinky trouble, and the Egyptians have enough of their own.

109 Buck  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:41:50pm

re: #61 Cato the Elder

Meanwhile, according to CNN:

Exiled Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal is ready to stop the fighting in exchange for an end to Israel's blockade of Gaza, the Russian Foreign Ministry announced.

The "Palestinian reconciliation process"? So this is a fight between Palestinians. Damn, it gets so confusing...

No mention of the rocket fire? I think it is fair to assume that the blockade would end when the rockets and all palestinian violence ends...

110 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:41:51pm

re: #91 Dustyvet

I have a Kidney stone, on medication and juice only. No soda for at least two weeks.

Hang tough.
Best wishes.

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:42:18pm

re: #107 father_of_10

Yes, of course. The NSL. The enemy of every stone.

112 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:42:35pm

re: #89 Throbert McGee

(Oops -- shoulda read down in the thread; didn't see the updates about the "Dead Sea cosmetics" franchise. When I was Christmas shopping, I saw a couple of hot Middle Eastern guys selling them at a mall here in Northern Virginia... though I was too busy to chat and find out what their nationality was. I do remember that they specifically said "minerals from the Dead Sea in the Holy Land," rather than saying either "Israel" or "Palestine.")

Here in the malls in LA, Dead Sea cosmetics signs say they are made from the Dead Sea in Israel. Funny, but I never really thought about it, before. It's just part of the mall landscape.

113 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:42:45pm

re: #79 bj

I have tabs on 13 right now. They are very vulnerable outside Israel.

I'll go to town day after tomorrow and have a chat. The 'mall' is pretty small and usually very well populated. There have never been any incidents, like youths attacking them - that would have been reported in our local rag.
Still, pevention is better than cure.

114 badbear[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:42:46pm
115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:44:08pm

re: #114 badbear

Uh. Oh.

116 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:44:09pm

re: #114 badbear

A CLASSIC!

Got deleted?

117 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:44:36pm

Little Mermaid gets a burqa cover-up
Copenhagen
December 18, 2004


The bronze statue of a naked mermaid sitting on a rock on the seafront in Copenhagen is based on a Hans Christian Andersen fairytale.

No one has claimed responsibility for the burqa protest.


Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

118 RubyTuesday  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:44:42pm

re: #101 rockmanvermont
I don't think Israel will ever have any friends in the ME. Egypt might just be letting Hamas do the dirty work for now.

119 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:45:18pm

re: #110 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hang tough.
Best wishes.

Thanks very much...:)

120 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:45:20pm

re: #118 RubyTuesday

I don't think Israel will ever have any friends in the ME. Egypt might just be letting Hamas do the dirty devils work for now.

121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:46:16pm

re: #116 VegasRick

yep.

122 mean Gene  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:46:43pm

Funny that we can't find out the nationality of this shooter.
In London the usual depiction of immigrants as ''Asians,'' gave way the other day during the siege of the Israeli Embassy.
All of the demonstrators were said to be ''Palestinians!"

123 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:46:50pm

re: #106 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I thought Europe was a gun free zone

Not as far as criminals are concerned ...

124 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:47:19pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Isn't it a good thing that they don't allow concealed carry in Denmark? Somebody could have shot this poor, poor Mohammedan...

125 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:47:41pm

re: #91 Dustyvet

I have a Kidney stone, on medication and juice only. No soda for at least two weeks.

I've had kidney stones as long as I can remember. I've found cranberry juice to be very very effective (magical properties). A glass a day keeps the pain away.

126 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:47:43pm

re: #101 rockmanvermont

hey guys,I know this may sound insane,especially since the fighting is still going on,but what if Israel defeats Hamas,takes over Gaza,and transfers control to Egypt,sounds crazy I know.But think about it this way:

Egypt is one of the few(I actually think only) Arab country to recognize the sovereignty of Israel,granted many Egyptians and Israelis do not get along,but with that type of connection,it should not be forgotten,even if it was after several wars that Israel has kicked the crap out of Egypt.But it may be a win win situation if Gaza was controlled by Egypt,that way,Israel will not be some occupying power,Egypt will control and implement a government that wont be shooting rockets 24/7/365 and it may be a step towards more stability in the region,after all Egypt has sent aid trucks themselves,help them make the good PR for the west by standing with Israel(good pr,good cooperation,steps toward success,peace,stability,and less anger) and in the end Egypt gets Gaza,better standing in the world,Israel gets to show their friendly side(again,but this one may last) and Gaza will be under better leadership that does not teach four year olds to be dead by the time they're 18.

Sorry for the long rant,but add on to it if you'd like,But when I read the stories of Egypt giving aid,and even firing on people hopping over their border(to avoid the mess spilling over,plus to avoid looking like they have sympathy for Hamas).And the little glimpses of hope here and there,I think it is possible,but that is just my opinion.If the Egyptian government sided on with Israel by supplying the aid while cooperating with Israeli Intel,we could be seeing a 180 that has never happened before,and we would no longer be on a merry-go-round.


Hate to rain on your parade, but you know the Egyptians do not like the Palestinians very much, and it's vice versa. Also, Israel is not an occupying force in Gaza, although Pali rhetoric keeps repeating that meme.

127 RubyTuesday  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:47:55pm

re: #120 VegasRick
Upding on the correction!

128 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:48:18pm

re: #100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Its fairly effective these days. They have gotten a lot better with being able to focus the sound to break up the stone. Sorry to hear that he has one. No fun at all.

129 debutaunt  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:48:32pm

re: #110 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hang tough.
Best wishes.

Don't ever watch Deadwood.

130 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:48:52pm

BBL.

A wild hair says, run down the street to the mall, see if there's someone there selling Dead Sea Cosmetics. If so, and if Israeli, tell him/her that they're more than welcome in this country.

/as Mehitabel said, ... whot th' hell.

131 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:49:05pm

re: #122 mean Gene

Funny that we can't find out the nationality of this shooter.
In London the usual depiction of immigrants as ''Asians,'' gave way the other day during the siege of the Israeli Embassy.
All of the demonstrators were said to be ''Palestinians!"

Heh.
As long as noboy uses the dreaded word 'muslims' to describe them ...

132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:49:45pm

re: #128 Shr_Nfr

Pounded my wife's stones into sand. Were only uncomfortable to pass. Little soreness, but damn it worked a lot better than a knife and a spoon and a needle.

133 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:50:08pm

re: #125 unrealizedviewpoint

I've had kidney stones as long as I can remember. I've found cranberry juice to be very very effective (magical properties). A glass a day keeps the pain away.

I stopped and bought about 5 bottles of the stuff on the way home...Just gave 5 liters of coke to my neighbor....

134 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:50:30pm

re: #101 rockmanvermont

If you think Egypt wants Gaza, I have a slightly used bridge to sell you. What do they get? A pile of people who can only live off the dole and are tied to Iran. Not exactly what they want.

135 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:50:36pm

re: #116 VegasRick

Got deleted?

What got deleted?

136 Dustyvet  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:51:04pm

re: #130 pre-Boomer Marine brat

BBL.

A wild hair says, run down the street to the mall, see if there's someone there selling Dead Sea Cosmetics. If so, and if Israeli, tell him/her that they're more than welcome in this country.

/as Mehitabel said, ... whot th' hell.

aww splitting hares...:)

137 bj  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:51:08pm

re: #113 yma o hyd

I'll go to town day after tomorrow and have a chat. The 'mall' is pretty small and usually very well populated. There have never been any incidents, like youths attacking them - that would have been reported in our local rag.
Still, pevention is better than cure.

Thank you. Tell them to keep in touch with their parents too to let them know they are okay as well as whoever they know well in the US community. This time of year, we have hundreds of kiosks in the US malls alone. Sometimes Jewish Americans/ students work with/are related to the Israelis .. mostly aged 19 to 30.

138 VegasRick  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:51:27pm

re: #135 father_of_10

What got deleted?

Your #97, don't know why.

139 maddogg  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:51:29pm

Looks like all that strict Euroweenie gun control laws did a shitload of good. We need more!

/brain dead moonbat

140 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:51:38pm

re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pounded my wife's stones into sand. Were only uncomfortable to pass. Little soreness, but damn it worked a lot better than a knife and a spoon and a needle.

Had 1 a few years back. I was about to go after it with an xacto knife, it hurt so much.

141 opnion  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:52:28pm

When will we learn that the West needs to have more Muslim immigration?
That way incidents like this might not look so bad per capita. sarc

142 right Brain  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:52:52pm

Was it a "youth?"

143 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:53:12pm

re: #104 Chicken Kiev

Here is a different link to the story about the vandalized Holocaust memorial in San Francisco.

From the description of the defacement, it was done by left-wing anti-Semites.

144 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:54:32pm

re: #137 bj

Erm - slight correction: I live in Wales, which is part of the UK ...
But I'll tell them what you said nevertheless!

145 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:54:40pm

re: #123 yma o hyd

Anyone with money to spend can get just about anything that they want if they try hard enough. Back in the '90s in Denmark someone shot up the Hell's Angels' clubhouse with an RPG. Getting an illegal pistol should be pretty easy compared to that.

146 astronmr20  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:54:46pm

re: #142 right Brain

Was it a "youth?"

Indeed.

147 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:55:08pm

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

Odense is the home of Hans Christian Andersen.

I know. I've actually been there!

I wonder what he'd make of the "strong Muslim population" in his home town.

When i was there, it was the calmest, most middle-class, most homogenous Danish place you'd ever seen. I guess things have really changed in the last 10 or 15 years.

Hans probably didn't even know what a Muslim was.

148 Racer X  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:55:12pm

re: #134 Shr_Nfr

If you think Egypt wants Gaza, I have a slightly used bridge to sell you. What do they get? A pile of people who can only live off the dole and are tied to Iran. Not exactly what they want.

No one wants Gaza. Someone has to run it and set up a viable government. The palis will never accept this from Israel. If Egypt does it - at least temporarily - it may work. worth a try IMO.

149 Chicken Kiev  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:55:51pm

105 buzzsawmonkey

Odense is the home of Hans Christian Andersen.

When Andersen was a boy, he was bulllied and hounded by other kids in the town. Because he was small and shy and odd-looking, they chased him and beat him and called him names.

Ahhh ... but now the assaults happen in Odense for a different reason.

150 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:56:01pm

re: #133 Dustyvet

Good choice. I don't think anyone really knows why it works but it seems to for a great number of urinary tract conditions. Its sorta like cinnamon and type 2 diabetes. A couple of cinnamon capsules twice a day does a good job of controlling it. If anyone cares to follow up do a search on cinnamon+diabetes+fda for some of the stuff the FDA has put out about it. There is at least one biological company trying to tease the stuff out of the cinnamon that does the job but the problem is that you can't get a patent on cinnamon and its pretty cheap just to take the capsules.

151 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:56:36pm

Maybe the part wasn't straight.

152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:57:28pm

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

Odense is the home of Hans Christian Andersen. I wonder what he'd make of the "strong Muslim population" in his home town.

I love that Danny Kaye movie. No Muslims in it that I recall.

153 angrywhitedude  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:57:57pm

Great shooting there Haji! I guess it's hard to aim when you're blind firing behind a woman and a child with your eyes closed!

Angry White Dude

154 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:58:17pm

re: #145 Iron Fist

Anyone with money to spend can get just about anything that they want if they try hard enough. Back in the '90s in Denmark someone shot up the Hell's Angels' clubhouse with an RPG. Getting an illegal pistol should be pretty easy compared to that.

We've had a spate of shootings in recent months. Apparently drug runners give the guns to kids to hide them - makes the kids feel important.
Mind, if you wish to train for any of the olympic shooting disciplines, you can't do that here - you gotta leave the country to train.

You can have guns for game shooting though - licensed, obviously.
Thats Britsh game, that is - pheasants, ducks, rabbits, deer.
Anything bigger - forget it.

155 J.S.  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:58:35pm

re: #142 right Brain

Ha'aretz (i posted a link in the IAF thread) originally ran a headline which read: "Arab youths open fire on Israelis working at mall in Denmark" (now changed to read: "Gunman opens fire...")

156 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:59:11pm

re: #138 VegasRick

Your #97, don't know why.

I think that might be a first for me after being on here for over 4 years. Is stereotyping not allowed? Even when used to decry stereotyping as the MSM does it?

157 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:59:12pm

re: #148 Racer X

I doubt that you could give Gaza to the Iranians. The palis are useful idiots when it comes to twisting the knife in the Jews wounds, but no one really wants them around in their country. People remember how the Palis treated (and were subsequently treated by) the Jordanians.

158 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 12:59:56pm

My experience with the Dead Sea Salt kiosk: The lady selling to me mentioned she was from another country, and I said "Israel?" She was amazed (did I mention she was trying to sell me something?) and asked how I could ever guess that.

"Uh, you're wearing a Star of David necklace and selling Dead Sea brand?"

I'm a genius.

159 opnion  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:00:53pm

Muslim yoots in the West often feel estranged & isolated from society.
Often in desperation they travel to the Middle East to learn explosives.
They then return to feel estranged again & blow something up.
Makes perfect sense.

160 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:01:29pm

re: #155 J.S.

Ha'aretz (i posted a link in the IAF thread) originally ran a headline which read: "Arab youths open fire on Israelis working at mall in Denmark" (now changed to read: "Gunman opens fire...")

Here's something about Ha'aretz which needs to be kept in mind:
Al-Aretz sinks even lower

161 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:01:33pm

re: #148 Racer X

No one wants Gaza. Someone has to run it and set up a viable government. The palis will never accept this from Israel. If Egypt does it - at least temporarily - it may work. worth a try IMO.

They don't get along too well. Not really at all.

162 Racer X  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:01:36pm

re: #157 Iron Fist

I doubt that you could give Gaza to the Iranians. The palis are useful idiots when it comes to twisting the knife in the Jews wounds, but no one really wants them around in their country. People remember how the Palis treated (and were subsequently treated by) the Jordanians.

I agree with you, but some entity other than Israel needs to step in and help drag these idiots into the 21st century. They have clearly demonstrated they are incapable of doing this themselves.

163 Dianna  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:02:01pm

re: #135 father_of_10

Your #97.

164 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:02:11pm
165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:02:25pm

re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hans Christian Anderson (Danny Kaye) sings....

Pick your target as to it's subject.

166 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:02:46pm

re: #154 yma o hyd

You can have guns for game shooting though - licensed, obviously. Thats Britsh game, that is - pheasants, ducks, rabbits, deer.
Anything bigger - forget it.

And dragons?

167 mean Gene  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:03:10pm

re: #158 Silhouette

My experience with the Dead Sea Salt kiosk: The lady selling to me mentioned she was from another country, and I said "Israel?" She was amazed (did I mention she was trying to sell me something?) and asked how I could ever guess that.

"Uh, you're wearing a Star of David necklace and selling Dead Sea brand?"

I'm a genius.

I had that exact same experience.
She acted like all Americans are idiots.
And no one but a fellow Jew could possibly put her ''hints'' together.
Lately I've bought some humus and pita from an Israeli at our weekly open air organic market.
His dad sells the homemade breads in the next stall.
They are really good, too.
And both men are the face of local family companies, I like that.

168 Hard Right  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:03:44pm

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Given the way that the followers of Mohammed are inflamed by the sight of the female form, the burkha drapery was probably necessary to prevent Denmark's Muslim youths from doing themselves damage by ramming their members against the bronze.

LMAO at the mental picture of "youths" sprinting up to it and...

169 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:04:03pm

re: #158 Silhouette

My experience with the Dead Sea Salt kiosk: The lady selling to me mentioned she was from another country, and I said "Israel?" She was amazed (did I mention she was trying to sell me something?) and asked how I could ever guess that.

"Uh, you're wearing a Star of David necklace and selling Dead Sea brand?"

I'm a genius.

My experience with the Dead See kiosk:
they always manage to sell me something I do not really need and never use.

170 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:04:11pm

re: #133 Dustyvet

I stopped and bought about 5 bottles of the stuff on the way home...Just gave 5 liters of coke to my neighbor....

I don't recall the reasons, but I understand too much cranberry is very very bad also. Suggestions are to limit it to no more than 2-glasses per day.

171 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:04:11pm

re: #158 Silhouette

My experience with the Dead Sea Salt kiosk: The lady selling to me mentioned she was from another country, and I said "Israel?" She was amazed (did I mention she was trying to sell me something?) and asked how I could ever guess that.

"Uh, you're wearing a Star of David necklace and selling Dead Sea brand?"

I'm a genius.


Me too. Around here there are several indian jewelry stores that are owned and operated by Palis. First time I was in one I asked the Pali at the counter (I knew he wasn't a Navajo) which country he was from. He said Palestine. I retorted: Oh, you mean you don't have a country!

That didn't go over to well. No discount for the (sometimes) fake jewelry he was selling.

172 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:04:14pm

re: #166 Silhouette

And dragons?

They only live in Wales - and we protect them.
Especially the red dragons!
And even more especially the one on our flag!

173 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:04:18pm

re: #154 yma o hyd

I wrote an article on that many years ago. You had young kids in the projects committing murder on a regular basis. Minority kids in a fatherless home are pretty easy to recruit. And if they waste someone, all they have to do is keep their mouth shut about who ordered it. They won't do serious time because they are juveniles. I'd guess that it is pretty much the same thing over there.

174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:04:29pm

re: #156 father_of_10

Your first? Wow. Congrats! It was just the kind of thing that outsiders will cut and paste to their "We Hate LGF" websites and blogs.

Funny tho.

175 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:04:40pm

Israel National News has more info:

Palestinian Authority Arab terrorists attacked a group of young Israelis at a stand in a Danish mall early Wednesday evening.

Local police said the attack took place at approximately 3:20 p.m. at the Rosengirdscentret Center, one of the largest shopping centers in the city of Odense, located about 200 kilometers from Copenhagen.

According to Foreign Ministry spokesman Yossi Levi, an undetermined number of Palestinian Authority gunmen approached the group of young Israelis at a "basta", or stand which sells Dead Sea products and other items from Israel and opened fire "with guns or rifles."

It was not clear how many terrorists, and how many Israelis were involved in the attack. Two Israelis were wounded, one in the leg and the other in the shoulder. "As far as we know, there is no danger to their lives," Levi said, "but we do not know their names or other details at this time."

He added that Foreign Ministry officials in Denmark are in close contact with local authorities there. Very few details of the attack were available, however, and Levi was unable to say whether the terrorists had been caught or had managed to escape. A Danish radio station said the terrorists escaped in a black Audi sedan, which police later found at a nearby college.

Levi made a point of stressing that the Israeli government believes there is a connection between this terrorist attack and the Arab world's opposition to the current military operation in Gaza.

"In the Foreign Ministry, a direct line is drawn between these assaults and the sharp anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish propaganda in the Arab national and international media since the beginning of the operation in Gaza," he said. "We don't have proof, but that is our estimation."

A number of Islamist terrorists have been discovered living in Vollsmose, a suburb of Odense in the past two years, including three former PA residents and a Danish native who became a convert to Islam. All were arrested in 2006 and convicted of plotting to carry out terrorist acts using TATP, a deadly explosive favored by suicide bombers in the Middle East.

Some 85 percent of the community is populated by Muslim immigrants, many of whom came to the country since 1980 from Iran, Iraq, Somalia and the Palestinian Authority. Estimates vary, but Muslim authorities say their population numbers approximately 300,000 in Denmark, with 115 mosques operating throughout the country.

176 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:05:29pm

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Given the way that the followers of Mohammed are inflamed by the sight of the female form, the burkha drapery was probably necessary to prevent Denmark's Muslim youths from doing themselves damage by ramming their members against the bronze.

ROFL!
Now that's a picture in my head that I am really, really enjoying!

177 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:05:49pm

re: #169 reine.de.tout

My experience with the Dead See kiosk:
they always manage to sell me something I do not really need and never use.

Which is why I never engage them in conversation. But they are all Israeli.

178 opnion  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:06:09pm

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Given the way that the followers of Mohammed are inflamed by the sight of the female form, the burkha drapery was probably necessary to prevent Denmark's Muslim youths from doing themselves damage by ramming their members against the bronze.

Muslim yoots get aroused by T&A (toes & ankles)

179 bj  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:06:57pm

re: #144 yma o hyd

Erm - slight correction: I live in Wales, which is part of the UK ...
But I'll tell them what you said nevertheless!

My bad, for some reason I thought you said a US state. They are in the UK too. We are everywhere. LOL My daughter was in a study abroad last year in your beautiful country .. now her whole family wants to visit.

180 Racer X  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:07:14pm

re: #169 reine.de.tout

My experience with the Dead See kiosk:
they always manage to sell me something I do not really need and never use.

Heh. I thought I was the only one. The Israeli women who work there are astonishingly beautiful. I'm a sucker.

181 J.S.  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:07:14pm

re: #160 yma o hyd

Yeah, they employ lots and lots of Moonbats...(there were some real notorious ones -- one was a woman who took up residence with the Palis -- I can't recall her name -- a real terrorist supporter...some of her antics were even too much for the Israelis...there are lots of others, mostly at the Universities busily writing revisionist histories, as you're probably aware...)

182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:07:34pm

re: #165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hans Christian Anderson (Danny Kaye) sings....

Pick your target as to it's subject.

Oops. Doesn't sing. Here's one...

Danny Kaye was my favorite from that generation...

183 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:08:27pm

re: #173 Iron Fist

Exactly.
Gang wars, innocent bystanders getting killed - the last one was a boy of eleven, just cycling back from soccer training.
Took the police lots of patience to get the shooter convicted. He was only 15 himself, iirc.

Since the police are really cracking down on gun crime, the villains have now resorted to knifings.
Theres' at least one every weekend in one of the big cities in England.

184 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:08:48pm

re: #177 Golem Akbar

Which is why I never engage them in conversation. But they are all Israeli.

Yes, I know.
I get "caught" every time I'm in the mall, because they are working so hard and I can't stand to turn them down when they ask to show me the hand-softening lotion.

185 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:08:58pm

re: #178 opnion

Muslim yoots get aroused by T&A (toes & ankles)

So, they like that toe cleavage, do they?

186 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:08:59pm

I used my Dead Sea salt scrub. Once or twice. But it is in so much baby oil that the shower floor becomes a certified slipping hazard.

187 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:09:49pm

Slightly OT: I found this little gem while doing some research. Now, how many mistakes can you find in this article? I can't count that high.

188 badbear  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:09:52pm

re: #156 father_of_10

I think that might be a first for me after being on here for over 4 years. Is stereotyping not allowed? Even when used to decry stereotyping as the MSM does it?

The deletion bothers me. I thought it was a great comment and therefore quoted it and called it a classic.

Is there a standard of political correctness we must attain to be lizards?

189 Chicken Kiev  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:09:58pm

171 father_of_10

Around here there are several indian jewelry stores that are owned and operated by Palis.

I have heard from people in the Southwest that Muslims have been marrying into the Native American communities for ten or fifteen years now as a way of gaining green cards and citizenship. I have heard that the Hopi pueblos now have many many resident Muslims. Never confirmed this, just a rumor thus far.

190 zombie  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:10:13pm

Jpost sez:

Police spokesman Lars Thede said it was not immediately clear whether the Israelis were targeted because of their nationality. A video surveillance camera showed a swarthy man with a dark mustache and dark hair in his mid-20s pulling out a gun before opening fire.

"We cannot say whether he is Palestinian, Iraqi, Iranian or Bosnian, or where he is from," Thede said.

191 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:10:24pm

re: #186 Silhouette

Well, you didn't need it anyway. You are positively glowing today.

192 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:10:43pm

re: #186 Silhouette

I used my Dead Sea salt scrub. Once or twice. But it is in so much baby oil that the shower floor becomes a certified slipping hazard.

The product is very good. But I just don't spend that much time on myself.

193 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:11:03pm

re: #184 reine.de.tout

Yes, I know.
I get "caught" every time I'm in the mall, because they are working so hard and I can't stand to turn them down when they ask to show me the hand-softening lotion.


Ahh, you gotta be tough...

194 SlartyBartfast  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:11:04pm

re: #157 Iron Fist

I doubt that you could give Gaza to the Iranians. The palis are useful idiots when it comes to twisting the knife in the Jews wounds, but no one really wants them around in their country. People remember how the Palis treated (and were subsequently treated by) the Jordanians.

One would hope a brave Arab leader would finally say, "We've used those poor people for 60 years...it's time to 'throw in the towel' and relocate them as the Jews were relocated into Israel when they were expelled from the Arab lands in 1948."

Chaim Herzog wrote in The Arab-Israeli Wars that, "It is sobering to reflect that just one day's Arab oil revenues, even in 1949, would have sufficed to solve the entire Arab refugee problem."

The residents of Gaza are neither Palestinians nor refugees...they're pawns.

195 opnion  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:11:05pm

re: #185 father_of_10

So, they like that toe cleavage, do they?


Oh man , that would start a toe frenzy.

196 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:11:18pm

re: #179 bj

My bad, for some reason I thought you said a US state. They are in the UK too. We are everywhere. LOL My daughter was in a study abroad last year in your beautiful country .. now her whole family wants to visit.

Thats what we like to hear!
It is indeed beautiful, the sea and the mountains are right next to each other. Lots of castles. Lots of singing.
And of course lots of sheep - the four-legged variety, that is.
Oh - and 'Dr Who' and 'Torchwood' are made in Cardiff, the capital.

197 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:11:20pm

re: #162 Racer X

I agree with you, I just don't know who can actually do that. Anyone who has sufficient cred as a Mohammedan probably approves of this kind of thing. And anyone who disapproves loses any credibility with the Mohammedans.

The US can't do it, Iran won't do it. The Russians have their own problems to deal with. Egypt would seem to be the best bet, but I doubt you could get them to take on responsibility for Gaza even if you doubled the jizya we're already paying them.

It is a right fucked up situation. I don't know what the answer is, but what we have done so far hasn't worked.

198 Cato the Elder  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:12:03pm

OT:

The local Bank of America branch office (one block from my house) recently pulled the nice big security guard armed with a huge and highly visible .357 magnum revolver. Presumably to save money. Rumor has it that the corporate office just decided that this was a "safe neighborhood" without asking any questions.

Day before yesterday the bank was robbed. Yesterday the guard was back.

He usually stands outside the building, though. That's what gets me. I asked him if the tellers inside had any way of signaling him if something bad was going on inside. He said no. So a robber can just walk past him, hand the teller a note, and walk out calmly with the swag before the guard ever notices.

What is wrong with these companies?

199 Racer X  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:12:42pm

re: #194 SlartyBartfast

The residents of Gaza are neither Palestinians nor refugees...they're pawns.


True.

200 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:12:50pm

re: #187 Golem Akbar

Slightly OT: I found this little gem while doing some research. Now, how many mistakes can you find in this article? I can't count that high.

Now I really got a really huge headache.
Thanks!

201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:13:30pm

re: #185 father_of_10

So, they like that toe cleavage, do they?

Nailed it!

202 infidel4ever  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:13:44pm

re: #141 opnion

When will we learn that the West needs to have more Muslim immigration?
That way incidents like this might not look so bad per capita. sarc

Maybe we can start taking in some of those poor oppressed Palestinians to enrich our culture...

spit

203 bj  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:14:02pm

re: #158 Silhouette

My experience with the Dead Sea Salt kiosk: The lady selling to me mentioned she was from another country, and I said "Israel?" She was amazed (did I mention she was trying to sell me something?) and asked how I could ever guess that.

"Uh, you're wearing a Star of David necklace and selling Dead Sea brand?"

I'm a genius.

Premier and Swissa (selling Dead Sea products) are both US companies that are owned by Israeli/Americans and employ primarily Israelis.

204 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:14:03pm

re: #181 J.S.

Yeah, they employ lots and lots of Moonbats...(there were some real notorious ones -- one was a woman who took up residence with the Palis -- I can't recall her name -- a real terrorist supporter...some of her antics were even too much for the Israelis...there are lots of others, mostly at the Universities busily writing revisionist histories, as you're probably aware...)

And then they get into politics and make up a party which demands a cease-fire, now!
Its called Meretz ... I call it treason.

205 father_of_10  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:14:03pm

re: #189 Chicken Kiev

171 father_of_10

I have heard from people in the Southwest that Muslims have been marrying into the Native American communities for ten or fifteen years now as a way of gaining green cards and citizenship. I have heard that the Hopi pueblos now have many many resident Muslims. Never confirmed this, just a rumor thus far.

I haven't heard about the Hopis. that reservation is very isolated and completely surrounded by the Navajo. It is also off of the beaten path for many tourists. In the Gallup area, there are lots of Palestinian-owned jewelry stores, as well as a couple of car detail places and such. I have only knowledge of one Pali guy marrying a Navajo, but there could be others.

206 NYCHardhat  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:14:31pm
207 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:14:48pm

re: #198 Cato the Elder

OT:

The local Bank of America branch office (one block from my house) recently pulled the nice big security guard armed with a huge and highly visible .357 magnum revolver. Presumably to save money. Rumor has it that the corporate office just decided that this was a "safe neighborhood" without asking any questions.

Day before yesterday the bank was robbed. Yesterday the guard was back.

He usually stands outside the building, though. That's what gets me. I asked him if the tellers inside had any way of signaling him if something bad was going on inside. He said no. So a robber can just walk past him, hand the teller a note, and walk out calmly with the swag before the guard ever notices.

What is wrong with these companies?

For one they hire idiots guards, ones who would answer such a question. geez!

208 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:15:17pm
209 itellu3times  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:15:53pm

re: #198 Cato the Elder

OT:

The local Bank of America branch office (one block from my house) recently pulled the nice big security guard armed with a huge and highly visible .357 magnum revolver. Presumably to save money. Rumor has it that the corporate office just decided that this was a "safe neighborhood" without asking any questions.

Day before yesterday the bank was robbed. Yesterday the guard was back.

He usually stands outside the building, though. That's what gets me. I asked him if the tellers inside had any way of signaling him if something bad was going on inside. He said no. So a robber can just walk past him, hand the teller a note, and walk out calmly with the swag before the guard ever notices.

What is wrong with these companies?

They'd rather lose rather a lot of money than actually have to shoot someone, but they can't really announce that publicly, so they do what you see.

210 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:16:09pm
211 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:16:16pm

re: #188 badbear

The deletion bothers me. I thought it was a great comment and therefore quoted it and called it a classic.

Is there a standard of political correctness we must attain to be lizards?


No and yes. Remember, this is a public forum, but our Lizard Master and web host Charles gets tainted as racist, and worse, by the lurkers from the left, by certain comments. We can still engage in civil discourse, and often quite humorous discourse, but it's best to keep in mind that what you say is being read by many others who would do anything to hurt the Lizard community.

212 yma o hyd  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:16:20pm

re: #190 zombie

Jpost sez:

Policeman covering his bets here.

What have all the nationalities he names in common?

Ahhh - now thats a really difficult question ...

213 Hard Right  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:16:21pm

re: #186 Silhouette

I used my Dead Sea salt scrub. Once or twice. But it is in so much baby oil that the shower floor becomes a certified slipping hazard.

Puts the emphasis on dead...

214 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:16:59pm

re: #191 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, you didn't need it anyway. You are positively glowing today.

Why thank you. Although "glowing" isn't always a compliment here in Oak Ridge.

215 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:17:11pm

re: #188 badbear

The deletion bothers me. I thought it was a great comment and therefore quoted it and called it a classic.

Is there a standard of political correctness we must attain to be lizards?

Um, no.

But you might remember that we are all anonymous persons posting comments, and when your host determines that a particular comment might bring unwarranted and unnecessary grief upon his head because someone elsewhere decides to misinterpret it or quote it in such a way to disparage this site, then he may decide to delete that comment and such is life.

If you wish to have the privilege of just writing whatever you want without any oversight, then you are invited to blog at your own place.

216 Golem Akbar  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:17:19pm

re: #200 unrealizedviewpoint

Now I really got a really huge headache.
Thanks!


So many believe this cr*p. oy

217 Dianna  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:17:44pm

re: #188 badbear

The deletion bothers me. I thought it was a great comment and therefore quoted it and called it a classic.

Is there a standard of political correctness we must attain to be lizards?

No. But think about how some one who wishes to portray Charles and all the lizards as extremists is going to read it.

It's not pc, it's self-defense.

218 Hard Right  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:17:48pm

re: #198 Cato the Elder

OT:

The local Bank of America branch office (one block from my house) recently pulled the nice big security guard armed with a huge and highly visible .357 magnum revolver. Presumably to save money. Rumor has it that the corporate office just decided that this was a "safe neighborhood" without asking any questions.

Day before yesterday the bank was robbed. Yesterday the guard was back.

He usually stands outside the building, though. That's what gets me. I asked him if the tellers inside had any way of signaling him if something bad was going on inside. He said no. So a robber can just walk past him, hand the teller a note, and walk out calmly with the swag before the guard ever notices.

What is wrong with these companies?

If the robber and the gunman have a shootout in the bank and bystanders get hurt, lawsuits galore. Less likely to be injuries outside.

219 reine.de.tout  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:18:33pm

re: #217 Dianna

No. But think about how some one who wishes to portray Charles and all the lizards as extremists is going to read it.

It's not pc, it's self-defense.

nice, concise answer, perfect.

220 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:19:01pm

re: #198 Cato the Elder

Or there is some way he knows, and he didn't want to reveal it?

/optimistic

221 vapig  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:19:08pm

re: #202 infidel4ever

Maybe we can start taking in some of those poor oppressed Palestinians to enrich our culture...

spit

You don't think we have enough third worlders as it is?

222 J.S.  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:21:21pm

re: #204 yma o hyd

(I've seen on Canada's "political channel" some of Yossi Beilin's antics with Arabs...and, yeah, it's unseemly)...(I think that some of the problems -- speaking of Israeli politics--comes from that "proprotional representation" system which they have -- that's just my opinion -- i think PR stinks and leads, if not encourages, political corruption...)

223 Dianna  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:21:27pm

re: #219 reine.de.tout

Thanks.

Shall we move upstairs? I could use something that isn't a gloomy subject.

224 mean Gene  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:22:08pm

re: #175 zombie

Wouldn't you hate to be one of the remaining 15% of Native people living among them?
Geepers.
That must be what living in a suburb around Paris is like.

225 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:22:19pm

re: #144 yma o hyd

Never did quite understand why you folks don't secede from the rest of the country. Wales is a very nice area and the regular soccer yobs would get lost trying to follow your street signs in Welsh. I would certainly file a strong complaint about having Prince Up Chuck be called the Prince of Wales. Its defamatory.

226 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:22:28pm

re: #216 Golem Akbar

So many believe this cr*p. oy

1.2 billion Muslims, the American Left, & most of the EU for starters.

227 HoosierHoops  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:23:23pm

re: #192 reine.de.tout

The product is very good. But I just don't spend that much time on myself.


Have you tried the east river face scrub?
/

228 sawblade88  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:28:07pm

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Given the way that the followers of Mohammed are inflamed by the sight of the female form, the burkha drapery was probably necessary to prevent Denmark's Muslim youths from doing themselves damage by ramming their members against the bronze.

What's worse than a tongue on a subzero pump handle? Hmm.

229 Soona'  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:28:37pm

re: #198 Cato the Elder

OT:

The local Bank of America branch office (one block from my house) recently pulled the nice big security guard armed with a huge and highly visible .357 magnum revolver. Presumably to save money. Rumor has it that the corporate office just decided that this was a "safe neighborhood" without asking any questions.

Day before yesterday the bank was robbed. Yesterday the guard was back.

He usually stands outside the building, though. That's what gets me. I asked him if the tellers inside had any way of signaling him if something bad was going on inside. He said no. So a robber can just walk past him, hand the teller a note, and walk out calmly with the swag before the guard ever notices.

What is wrong with these companies?

Nothing is wrong with the companies. It's CYA from the scheister lawyers who practice civil liability law.

230 Chicken Kiev  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:31:00pm

re: #205 father_of_10

I haven't heard about the Hopis. that reservation is very isolated and completely surrounded by the Navajo.

Someone who is in the jewelry business in NM told this thing about the Hopis to a friend of mine who is also in the jewelry business.

231 NelsFree  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:31:09pm

re: #67 zombie

Danish tabloid B.T. has police report details (in Danish, unfortunately):

Attackers fled in Audi

It was a Silver AUDI. S. AUDI

232 infidel4ever  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:32:54pm

re: #221 vapig

You don't think we have enough third worlders as it is?

I think we already have way too many. However, the dear "leaders" in my country seem to think otherwise, as they have clearly put out the welcome mat again. I think the Netherlands is the only country in Europe where immigration actually increased this year.

Just what we need...

/sarc

233 Dave the.....  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:33:41pm
Apparently these two Israelis were shot while working on their stall, selling Dead sea cosmetics. Apparently, lots of young Israelis do tha sort of thing to earn some money.

Yes, there is one in the Mall of America in the Twin Cities. A very attractive female Israeli was working (owner?) one night and corralled me to try to sell me skin cleanser made of Dead Sea salt. Very good sales lady. I walked away with $60 worth of the stuff.....it's still in a closet at my house if anyone wants it.

234 nyc redneck  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:34:59pm

i'm glad the terrorist was a lousy shot and only wounded these guys.
and i'm glad the israelis fought back against him.
the danish authorities need to put this pos away.
european countries must take a firm stand against this kind of psychotic behavior.
because jihadis will eventually be coming for them too.
and just as openly.

235 Crimsonfisted  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:38:22pm

re: #198 Cato the Elder

He usually stands outside the building, though. That's what gets me. I asked him if the tellers inside had any way of signaling him if something bad was going on inside. He said no. So a robber can just walk past him, hand the teller a note, and walk out calmly with the swag before the guard ever notices.

What is wrong with these companies?


I doubt he could tell you the teller tells. Then you would know and get around it and rob the bank.

236 Spiny Norman  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 1:46:17pm

re: #88 yma o hyd

Indeed, thank God for Israel - because this war has made a surprisingly large number of crypto-anitsemites come out of hiding, showing their true colours.

No kidding. Protein Wisdom's resident cretinous web-footed trolls are raving.

If ever a blog cried out for comment registration...

237 FILETANDRELEASE  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 2:01:52pm

I would sure like to see one of these wussies stumble into some fortified juice when they pull this crap.

238 looking closely  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 2:07:17pm

#61

Meanwhile, according to CNN:

Exiled Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal is ready to stop the fighting in exchange for an end to Israel's blockade of Gaza, the Russian Foreign Ministry announced.

You gotta love this Palestinian bluster. Guess what. . .Khaled Meshal has zero ability to stop the fighting.

He didn't start the Israeli operation and he can't stop it. Even assuming he actually has control on the ground in Gaza (itself a questionable proposition) he can't control what Israel does. Meanwhile, Israel, frankly, doesn't give a rat's bottom what Meshal says on this. Israel is there specifically because promises from HAMAS can't be trusted.

So this will stop when. . .and only when. . .Israel decides to call it quits.

That will happen either one of two ways: Either Israel will meet its tactical objectives of severely damaging HAMAS' infrastructure and ability to carry out attacks, or alternatively (and hopefully this doesn't happen) when its political "stomach" has been exhausted.

And no matter which of the two is the outcome, HAMAS will still exist when this is over, and will therefore declare another "victory" over Israel. Count on it.

239 talon_262  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 2:08:57pm

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Given the way that the followers of Mohammed are inflamed by the sight of the female form, the burkha drapery was probably necessary to prevent Denmark's Muslim youths from doing themselves damage by ramming their members against the bronze.

LMAO!

240 Pooncakes, Hero of Zion  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 2:26:24pm

G-d be with them.

241 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 2:29:16pm

re: #188 badbear

One thing you must keep in mind. Even though a lot of the time it may seem that we are holding a private conversation among friends, there are a lot of people watching. Some of these people are hostile to LGF. If you stay around and post much, some of them may be hostile to you.

You can't always tell them apart. There have been posters who seemed to be really cool people who, after you found them out, were cast iron bastards. You can't ever really tell what is sitting at the keyboard behind that lovely TCP/IP barrier that will keep you from strangling some sorry son of a bitch who deserves it.

242 Promethea  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 3:07:36pm

re: #189 Chicken Kiev

171 father_of_10

I have heard from people in the Southwest that Muslims have been marrying into the Native American communities for ten or fifteen years now as a way of gaining green cards and citizenship. I have heard that the Hopi pueblos now have many many resident Muslims. Never confirmed this, just a rumor thus far.

I saw several Arab-run Indian jewelry stores in Gallup, NM. Your explanation makes a lot of sense.

243 Promethea  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 3:20:43pm

re: #194 SlartyBartfast

One would hope a brave Arab leader would finally say, "We've used those poor people for 60 years...it's time to 'throw in the towel' and relocate them as the Jews were relocated into Israel when they were expelled from the Arab lands in 1948."

Chaim Herzog wrote in The Arab-Israeli Wars that, "It is sobering to reflect that just one day's Arab oil revenues, even in 1949, would have sufficed to solve the entire Arab refugee problem."

The residents of Gaza are neither Palestinians nor refugees...they're pawns.

The Kuwaitis kicked the Palestinians out of Kuwait during the Gulf War. The Iraqis kicked them out more recently. The Saudis have a special law denying them citizenship. It's really interesting to see how the Arab brothers turn on the Palestinians whenever they feel like it.

Oddly enough, most Israelis mean what they say when they say they want peace, and they expect to live with Arabs or near Arabs. However, they don't expect the Land of Israel to be "Judenrein," free of Jews, even though the rest of world thinks that's OK.

In my former days, I thought that if the Jews moved out of the West Bank, that was a "fair" way to solve the problem. Now, many years later, I don't think so. I think the Palestinians need to be crushed so that they know that they must get along with the Jews, or else.

The Jews' unfortunate history of living among hostile peoples and having to placate them taught them a bad lesson. They want to be nice and they want to be loved. Jews have to learn to be in charge of things and to stop apologizing to the world for running their own country.

The Europeans are trying to drag Israelis down to their own level, because World War II and the Cold War cut the heart out of European civilization.

Thank goodness in the U.S., half the population still knows how to act with justice and with pride.

244 Empire1  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 3:20:55pm

re: #196 yma o hyd


And of course lots of sheep - the four-legged variety, that is.

And such beautiful sheep, from the pictures I've seen in Spin-Off. I get a severe case of fleece yearning every time I see them!

245 Promethea  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 3:21:24pm

Oops......dead thread.

246 So?  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 4:27:49pm

Wait till Zohan hears about this.

247 Joseph  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 4:35:00pm

>It is a right fucked up situation. I don't know what the answer is, but what we have done so far hasn't worked.

248 Joseph  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 4:35:59pm

Oooops...

It is a right fucked up situation. I don't know what the answer is, but what we have done so far hasn't worked.

Let's all pray really hard. All it'd take is a strategically located earthquake or tsunami!

249 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 5:19:35pm

re: #1 pegcity

wonder what the religion of the shooter was?

F'ing Knights Templar again, no doubt.

Sudden Jihad Syndrome strikes again.

250 shoey  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 5:24:41pm

the shooter isn't bad, he's just misunderstood and that's all anyone needs to know about him.

251 alexknyc  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 5:59:08pm

re: #101 rockmanvermont

Sadat was offered Gaza at Camp David and told Begin to keep it. Even then, Gaza was too much trouble. Why would Egypt want it now?

252 Perplexed  Wed, Dec 31, 2008 8:19:20pm

re: #91 Dustyvet

I have a Kidney stone, on medication and juice only. No soda for at least two weeks.

Watch out for grapefruit juice. That stuff is hard on the old kidneys. Down to one due to cancer in the kidney with stones. Also, if you ever have blood in your urine, run to the hospital to have it checked out as it might be the only symptom of kidney cancer you get.

253 000G  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:38:53am

re: #7 Sharmuta

I thought europe was too civilized to have mall shootings like those ruffians in America.

We don't have malls, in general, to begin with.

254 Green Helmet Guy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:58:46am

re: #1 pegcity

wonder what the religion of the shooter was?

"Peace!" Duhhhhh!
/

255 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:15:45am

re: #158 Silhouette

My experience with the Dead Sea Salt kiosk: The lady selling to me mentioned she was from another country, and I said "Israel?" She was amazed (did I mention she was trying to sell me something?) and asked how I could ever guess that.

"Uh, you're wearing a Star of David necklace and selling Dead Sea brand?"

I'm a genius.

Israelis as a group suffer from the idea that they are mysterious and unrecognizable, even to foreign Jews. I once started chatting with a group of tourists in London when we were on a 'ghost walk'. My non-Tanach Hebrew is limited, but they were happily discussing the 'ruchot', and I was able to turn and ask them where in Israel they were from. They were startled that their secret language was known by others.

I explained that I was taking classes at a rabbinic school in London, and they asked if I was aware that many, many Jews lived in Israel.

I expressed polite surprise. Another note about Israelis--sarcasm does not go from English into Hebrew. Don't even try.

256 gman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 6:03:46am

This was just posted on Jyllands-Posten

"It is a 27-year-old man who resides in Odense. He is a Danish citizen, but come from the Middle East, "said exploration director John Jacobsen.

Of course there has to be the obligatory "Unknown Motive Disclaimer":

Unknown motive

Thus he will not say whether the suspects have Palestinian background, like the police do not yet know whether the motive could be the intense fighting in Gaza between Israeli soldiers and Palestinians.

257 Xenobyte  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:25:44am

The 27-year-old turned himself in according to other sources, mostly due to his car being known to police, as well as his face as the shopping mall has intense surveillance which shows him clearly, thus avoiding the manhunt and the risk of cops shooting him on sight (he is known to be armed so the police will not take any chances, even here in Denmark).

It is still not known for sure whether the guy truly is Palestinian in origin or just an Arab from somewhere in the middle east, but it is known that he resides in Vollsmose in Odense, a ghetto area populated with about 85% Muslims, mostly from the middle east and some from Somalia.

258 eaglewingz08  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:39:24am

Were the Israelis selling 'juice'? These may just be anti juice, pro soda zealot yoots. I wonder what was said in that 'middle eastern language', could it have been anything like allahu akhbar? Yeah, the Danish media might not want to relay that information, might make you think there was some kind of religious antisemitic islamic angle there. I pray for these two injured individuals and wish them a speedy recovery.

259 AdrianDenmark  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:42:19am

According to this : [Link: ekstrabladet.dk...]

A man have been arrested for 4 weeks, charged for the shooting.

He admitted to be the owner of the escape car and the owner of the gun that was used, but deny that it was him that did it.

It's a 27 year old palestinian, borned in Lebanon, but now danish citizen.


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